It’s LT again _ with a supporting cast
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, September 10th, 2009 at 1:15 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Don’t look now, but here comes LaDainian Tomlinson.
And he’s got help. Lots of it.
Time was when the Raiders and everyone else could pretty much focus on the NFL’s top running back and still be helpless in his wake.
Then came last season, Tomlinson broke 2,500 carries, was a few months from age 30, and the whispers began.
Tomlinson had fewer than 300 carries (292) for the first time in his career. He gained 1,110 yards, the lowest single-season total of his career. The only time Tomlinson had a lower yards-per-carry and fewer touchdowns was in his rookie season.
The Chargers franchised running back Darren Sproles, making it seem as if the Chargers were preparing for an old L.T., rather than the L.T. of old.
The company line in San Diego is that Tomlinson is bent on proving everyone that last year’s off-year was because of a nagging toe injury and had nothing to do with the wear-and-tear of being an NFL runner.
We’ll find out soon enough, because the Raiders have been Tomlinson’s personal playground. He’s played the equivalent of a 16-game season Oakland and has 1,906 yards rushing, 19 touchdowns on the ground, has averaged 4.7 yards per carry. More than six percent of his career rushing yardage has come against the Raiders.
“I don’t necessarily go into the game thinking I’m going to have a big game,” Tomlinson told Bay Area reporters by conference call Thursday afternoon. “I just go into the gamne and take what they give me a lot of times.”
And before you break in with, “sure, they’ve given him an awful lot,” Tomlinson adds, “I will say, the last few times they have actually played us really well agianst the run.”
True enough. In the last three games agianst the Raiders, Tomlinson has 253 yards on 61 carries, a 4.1 average. The only time Tomlinson broke 100 in those games was in the first meeting between the two teams last year, and he needed a late 41-yard dash in a 28-18 come-from-behind win to get him to 106 yards on 20 carries.
The Chargers won all three games and have won 11 in a row. No team has ever won more consecutive games against the Raiders.
Tomlinson believes he’s still capable of a huge season, but is most happy about being pain free to start the season.
“I’m certainly not thinking of a season like last year. Just having the chance to be healthy again is what I’m most grateful for,” Tomlinson said. “At the same time, I’m happy to be on a team that has a shot of winning a champoinship with so many weapon. I don’t have to do what I did earlier in my career and run the ball so much. Everything centered around me and we relied on me and that running game. Now we can spread the wealth around.”
Quarterback Philip Rivers gives the Chargers the only playoff-level quarterback in the AFC West, and Norv Turner’s offense utilizes Sproles as a spot back and in the screen game to go along with tight end Antonio Gates and emerging wideout Vincent Jackson. Jackson burned the Raiders for five catches, 148 yards and a touchdown in the second meeting with the Raiders last season, a 34-7 win by San Diego.
Turner said San Diego’s ability to pass the ball made it easier to run toward the second half of last year, but believes that if necessary, Tomlinson could carry the ball 30 times, a figure he’s exceeded five times against the Raiders.
“I’m not sure you’d want him to do that week in and week out like he’s done in the past, but I think there’s going to be times when he’s going to have to carry the load and times hwen people load up in there and we do what we can to take advantage of it,” Turner said.
More from the Tomlinson and Turner conference calls:
– Tomlinson thinks Richard Seymour could make an immediate impact if he were to report to Oakland and play against the Chargers.
“He’s a pro. he knows how to play fooball and he knows how to turn it on when it’s time to turn it on,” Tomlinson said. “I think he could absolutely have an effect on the game.”
Turner didn’t sound so sure.
“He’s an outstanding football player . . . I think you find a spot, whether it’s rushing on third down, whatever that might be,” Turner said. “Certainly it’s hard to fit a guy in and get him going in a short period of time.”
– Turner can see a difference in JaMarcus Russell that comes from experience as much as it does the coaching of Paul Hackett and Ted Tollner.
“It’s from playing. People talk about Philip (Rivers), you look at him from two years ago and now he’s more sudden, mnore compact, his feet underneath him, he’s quicker,” Turner said. “Those are the things you see in JaMarcus. You can see they have a plan in terms of what they’re trying to get done with him, his feet are underneath him,and he’s getting the bal out quicker.
“Everyone wants to attribute that to a guy, it’s part of playing in the league and getting used to the league.”
– Regarding outside linebacker Shawne Merriman and his Tila Tequila legal troubles, Turner said, “there’s a legal process that has to take its course.” He said the Chargers have not heard from Commissioner Roger Goodell.
– What has made the Raiders better against the run the last three times out against Tomlinson?
“The guys that got up front. they got Kelly and Gerard Warren, those guys gave us some trouble. Kirk (Morrison) running around and Thomas (Howard) running around, their speed has really caused us a little trouble and allowed them to make some plays.”
– Tomlinson, a rookie in 2001, was mindful of the fact he lost four of his first five games to the Raiders.
“We play them twice a year. You guys talk about 11 straight times. I remember when they were kicking our butts all the time,” he said.
Will check in following Raiders open locker room session this evening and again following practice. Coach Tom Cable isn’t expected to address the media until after 9:15 p.m.
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September 10th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
Jerry, why are you trying to ruin our fun in here? The ban on name stealing was enough…relax a little. Some edginess is just fine…we are Raider fans, not Michigan fans!
September 10th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
Who does Number 2 work for?
September 10th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
I thought Morrison had his best game as a Raider against SD last year.
September 10th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
i only made 50 cents today… still have a copyright on “you people”… and don’t forget to mail those checks…
but… i really should have copyrighted “oh snap”…
i’d have made a fortune!!!
oh, snap… i almost forgot…
go raiders!!!
September 10th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
Hopefully Mike Mitchell blasts Sproles out of the game on the opening kickoff.
September 10th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
I just read a rumor that Seymore feels that the Pats owe him a $6 million roster bonus. Has anybody else heard this???
September 10th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
when will we finally see mitchell is some live action??????
September 10th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
Gotta stop both Tomlinson and Sproles. Seymour better show
this team and especially the fans need a big win!
September 10th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
Hey…..do any of you know where the Discharging Dolts stay at when they are up here to play against the Raiders? Last year I heard LT was at PF CHANGS IN Fremont a day before the game.
Wherever they are….wherever they eat….employees need to spit on the DisChargers players food!
September 10th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
Does this look like San Diego to you!!
If I wanted to read about the stupid Dischargers I would have went to a San Diego Blog!!
Seriously what gives?
September 10th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
Belichick on Seymour: “It’s between him and Oakland”
Posted by Mike Florio on September 10, 2009 3:59 PM ET
Coach Bill Belichick has provided the clearest indication yet that, from the perspective of the Patriots, the question of whether defensive lineman Richard Seymour ever reports for duty in Oakland is Oakland’s problem.
“It’s between him and Oakland,” Belichick told WEEI radio in Boston, via our pal Zach Krantz of SportsRadioInterviews.com.
So if (when) Seymour never arrives and if (when) the Raiders ask for their 2011 first-round pick to be returned, Belichick will politely tell them to get bent.
And then Commissioner Roger Goodell will get to sort it all out. (Perhaps with the assistance of his new Special Adviser, John Madden.)
In our view, the Raiders should get their pick back if they call the thing off, especially if (as most trades do) the deal contemplates that Seymour will report and pass a physical.
September 10th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
The Raiders were in control of that first game vs. SD last year until that screen pass for McFadden in SD territory was picked off near the end of the 3rd quarter. Everything imploded at that point.
September 10th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
“He’s a pro. he knows how to play fooball and he knows how to turn it on when it’s time to turn it on,” Tomlinson said.
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Not much of a pro…
September 10th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
Seymour should be a professional and report to the team that gave up a #1 for him. He and his agent can negotiate with us on a long term deal in the meanwhile. We’re paying the guy close to 4 million dollars for the year, time to be a man, fullfill his contract, be a leader, and show the NFL he isn’t washed up.
September 10th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
DKnight007 Says:
Hey…..do any of you know where the Discharging Dolts stay at when they are up here to play against the Raiders?
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Just send Merriman a bottle of Teal Tequilla!
September 10th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
“He’s a pro”
YOU LIE!!!!! Sorry about that guys I lost control of my emotions for a min. Wont happen again.
September 10th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
Jerry does not read this blog. He does not have the time. The jimmy olsen types are the mods. They work at the paper and they love riling Raider fans up because it so easy to do. They are the ones in charge of this glorified chatroom.
September 10th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
Which Mod is MR?
September 10th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
They banned a bunch of us over the weekend. Jerry got a bunch of email, went to the jimmy olsen and asked what the hell? I am too busy to put up with this. Clean up the dang blog or I will get someone else to run it.
And that my friends is the true story.
September 10th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
raidertay Says:
September 10th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
I just read a rumor that Seymore feels that the Pats owe him a $6 million roster bonus. Has anybody else heard this???
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I read the same thing yesterday… To much speculation happening, unless you are really close to the situation everything else is hearsay….
September 10th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
Jerry Mac…..
(W)hiskey (T)ango (F)oxtrot?
We could give a pile of manure, on what LT and Norvel have to say. Where in the flaming inner core of the earth is Seymour?
September 10th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
Jerry, her name is Tila Tequila, not Lila.
September 10th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
So is that why we dont see norco bob and Brien not posting the last couple of days?
September 10th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
Jerry cant you find anything better to right about???
September 10th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
oh snap!…LT comin?…time for the Raiders to pee their pants again.
September 10th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
CJ Legend 34 Says:
September 10th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
Jerry cant you find anything better to right about???
ooopss…….Jerry cant you find anything better to write about???
September 10th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
Dakota Says:
September 10th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
…we are Raider fans, not Michigan fans!
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We are Raider fans, not blind followers of an 80 year old ex-Nazi wearing red pajamas!
We are Raider fans, and we are fervent believers in birth control!
We are Raider fans, not former altar boys!
UM 31 ND 6
September 10th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
Man that would be nice with Ellis and Seymour as bookends with the big boys Warren and Kelly clogging up the middle. At that point the run D would fall squarely on the shoulders of our LBs…. hopefully they’ll be up to it. First time in a long time I’ve heard analysts or other players actually talk positively about the Raiders before the season starts…. it’s usually just our fans lol….
September 10th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
CJ Legend 34, I rewrote it for you.
Jerry, can’t you find anything better to write about?
September 10th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
The 8-8 chargers look out
September 10th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
Tomlinson and Sproles will be a formidable duo.
Good thing Seymour’s here to stop the run.
Oh, wait.
September 10th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
“He’s an outstanding football player . . . I think you find a spot, whether it’s rushing on third down, whatever that might be,” Turner said. “Certainly it’s hard to fit a guy in and get him going in a short period of time.”
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Seymour need sto play on monday to shut this guys pizza face.
Hey mods is saying Tom “gorrilla face” jackson bad?
Or cris “coked out” carter? is that enough to get me baanned? if so I wont call tom jackson gorilla face…
September 10th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
Seymour better get here quick….
He’s a bad mamma jamma….
September 10th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
Plunketthead Says:
September 10th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
Jerry does not read this blog. He does not have the time.
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Yeah, Jerry is too busy seeing Andrew’s mom on the side….
Actually, Jerry has ackowledged reading the comments. At least the lucid ones.
September 10th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
hey jerry, do me a favor and find Robbins for me. We could really use him at center.
September 10th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
Merriman should be getting suspended in the coming weeks.
What an idiot to assault that little skanky you know what…..haha
September 10th, 2009 at 1:43 pm
NnamdiShutsDown Says:
September 10th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
Seymour better get here quick….
He’s a bad mamma jamma….
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somebody cue the theme from Shaft…
“shut yo mouth”…
September 10th, 2009 at 1:43 pm
Spoke with some pats fans.. they hate “losing” seymour. Says he is still great at stoppinng the run.
Also say pats are going youth movement…. Seymour
was not going to be signed to an exstension…
September 10th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
People talk about Philip (Rivers), you look at him from two years ago and now he’s more sudden, mnore compact, his feet underneath him, he’s quicker,” Turner said. “Those are the things you see in JaMarcus….
LOL, anyone see a more compact JR?
September 10th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
I am getting fed up with Richard Me-More. Even if this is about contracts, he obviously cares nothing about the Raiders – otherwise he would have busted a gut to get here and get ready to help against the Chargers.
Sadly, this already looks like another dumb piece of FA scouting.
September 10th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
Afternoon Nation
September 10th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
Ne should have told him he wa going to be traded and to whom. Would have take some of the shock out of going to the worst ran team in the league, as voted by players….
September 10th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
Mork Garlic of “Mork & Mork in the Morning” on BSPN has the disChargers winning the Super Bowl.
Nice pick, tubby.
September 10th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
thec!!!…they didnt lose seymour!!!!,..what, you think hes here sore sumpin???????/…lol oh snap!
September 10th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
Dakota,
I have a lot of friends who are ND fans, some of them quite actively Catholic. When the last Pope died (the smily polish one) one ND fan remarked to me, “This is a very tense and stressful time for us Catholics. Until we choose a new pope we only have humans in charge.”
Needless to say, I told my wife to never let him near our kid.
September 10th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
seymour sucks, thats why we decided not to take him, oh snap!
September 10th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
Imagine you work for microsoft in the IT department, then you are laid off and now you work in the contra costa times IT department, I would be upset too. The good thing is he still has a job…
September 10th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
no… it is a good trade if you are only looking at this year…
Seymour helps against the run, the pass… and i hear he even burps the young quarterbacks…
representatives of a team are not allowed to talk the the players of another team without permission…
you get that right after you acquire the rights…
September 10th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
Man…it’s a great season to be a Raiders fan! Isn’t it?
Cracking me up to read guys like MR and RRS thanking Jerry for cleaning up the forum!!
It warrants a HYPOCRITE ALERT, but I’m afraid that might be considered too offensive to those sensitive souls, and I’d be placed on restriction by the Mod.
A $6 Million roster bonus is a bargain for a guy with Seymour’s pedigree. He’s likely to get a lot more than that once he signs the dotted line…with the Raiders, or with the team (other than the Pats) that gets his rights.
September 10th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
seymour will play for pats this sunday, i heard it on sirious radio.
September 10th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
Offensive playcalling is the NUMBER ONE concern. Not Richrd Seymour.
September 10th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
oh snap! hayesdaze is a girl,..you a girl hayesdaze? lol oh snap!
September 10th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
Thec07 Says:
September 10th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
Imagine you work for microsoft in the IT department, then you are laid off and now you work in the contra costa times IT department, I would be upset too. The good thing is he still has a job…
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i don’t think you appreciate the situation…
at Microsoft they make you work… and fix things… and do things…
at Contra Costa Times… they make you play Warcraft all day…
and occasionally harrass some Raider fans…
September 10th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
Tedi Bruschi (sp?) the newest minion at Bovine Scatology Programming Network, is of the opinion that Seymour is probably very concerned with the logistics have having to move his lovely wife and four beautiful children 3000 miles.
Oh, he also noted that going to play for the Raiders would not be as much fun as playing for the Cheatriots.
‘Ol Tedi is a quick learner
September 10th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
What a terrible day to have any potentially offensive comments geared towards other posters banned with the possibility of repercussion.
Oh snap!
September 10th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
With what he meant to new england they should have told him what the deal was before they pulled the trigger.
Biz, dont know you, the Oh snap is old slang, you seem pretty young so i will give you the benefit of the doubt. You claimed that you read somewhere tht seymour wasnt coming to the raiders. Go get the link and prove you are not a pranster, or a liar…Oh snap….
September 10th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
TROLL ALERT
Biz Markie = norcomabob = RiRaider = norcomabob =
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What’s the matter norcotroll? Some of your aliases get banned already?
PLEASE DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS
September 10th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
Or, as Seymour and his agent probably would prefer, the Raiders can offer him one of those fat, long-term contracts that they seem to bestow at whim, usually on lesser talents than this five-time Pro Bowler. If Seymour has kept his distance primarily as a negotiating ploy, more power to him. If he reported to Oakland without hesitation, he would have virtually no say over his future.
He couldn’t win. Playing well would increase the odds of being hit with the franchise tag. Going at half-speed, a la Randy Moss in 2006, would devalue him on the open market. Either way, he’d be playing on a team that will have to overachieve to finish 6-10.
Gwen Knapp
September 10th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
Anyone see this?
the New England media and he was asked if he had anything up his sleeve for the Patriots.
“Nah, nothing up my sleeve,” said Owens. “I might bring my spy camera out, though.”
Owens closed the call by saying, “Tell Belichick I said hello. I’ll see him Monday.”
September 10th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
Cracking me up to read guys like MR and RRS thanking Jerry for cleaning up the forum!!
It warrants a HYPOCRITE ALERT, but I’m afraid that might be considered too offensive to those sensitive souls, and I’d be placed on restriction by the Mod.
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excuse me? got a problem?
September 10th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
Biz Markie Says:
September 10th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
seymour will play for pats this sunday, i heard it on sirious radio.
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Give a name who said it and when???????
Oh snap you cant……
September 10th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
thec!…you need a link to inform you seymour aint a raider??????????? ooooohhh snap!!!!…hang around the raiduh compound…see ia ya catch a glimpse of him!!!!!…oh snap!
September 10th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
you know…
if Seymour were to get here…
and play hard… refuse to do an extension…
and help this defense into the teens (or better???)…
and especially if he were to help us into the playoffs…
he would be able to command an enormous contract at the end of this year…
ENORMOUS…
he would be rich, his friends would be rich, his children and thier children would be rich…
even his sperm would be gold plated…
September 10th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
If this were the NFL, we could trade Jerry to RaiderNationStation for the rights to a sports journalism grad in 2011.
September 10th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
oh snap,..pooor ol thec, just cant come to terms with a player not wanting to be a raiduh,…get over it thec!…he aint comin!!! oh snap
September 10th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
We could have drafted seymours replacement for a lot less headache, drama, and money…..
September 10th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
Al davis says to kraft,…yoooo you got what I need,..but you say hes just a… oh snap!!!
September 10th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
Aaron Eisenman about 5 hours ago
Flag as Offensive SEYMOUR SIGNED WITH THE RAIDERS YESTERDAY! My friend cousin plays for the Oak and he spoke with him yesterday and RS is there and signed. HA HA HA HA HA HA screw BSPN they do not know sqat.
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September 10th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh SSSSSnap!
I fear Dakota has been disappeared…
September 10th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
I think Jaws and Gruden are the only two ESPN analysts whose opinions I respect. Two credible guys out of 400, hey, that’s not bad. Not that I always agree with Jaws, but he brings legitimate insight. One of the few who hasn’t written JaMarcus off as a bust after ONE season.
Not counting Bruschi out yet though. Very good player. Seems like he has half a brain, unlike the Merrill Hodge’s of the BSPN world. I agree that moving the family has a lot to do with Seymour’s situation (although let’s face it, it’s really about squeezing the max money he can out of a contract extension).
At least they got the two best guys — Jaws & Gruden — doing MNF.
Although I’ll miss Tony Kornholer’s insightful, refreshing and nuanced commentary about the game.
No, not really.
September 10th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
Oh Schnapps!
September 10th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
Yeah Dakota was pushing the envelope.
September 10th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
Can’t wait to see how these “tags” are used by our wideouts.
I have yet to see someone “tag” to a quick slant across the middle when we are getting blitzed.
September 10th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
Canadian Raider Says:
September 10th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
Aaron Eisenman about 5 hours ago
Flag as Offensive SEYMOUR SIGNED WITH THE RAIDERS YESTERDAY! My friend cousin plays for the Oak and he spoke with him yesterday and RS is there and signed. HA HA HA HA HA HA screw BSPN they do not know sqat.
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i’m not sure anybody named Eisenman could possibly be related to someone on the Raiders…
not with Stu Schweigert gone…
September 10th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
is there proof of his signing or you making this up
September 10th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
Florida Pete Says:
September 10th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
Thec07 Says:
September 10th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
Imagine you work for microsoft in the IT department, then you are laid off and now you work in the contra costa times IT department, I would be upset too. The good thing is he still has a job…
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i don’t think you appreciate the situation…
at Microsoft they make you work… and fix things… and do things…
at Contra Costa Times… they make you play Warcraft all day…
and occasionally harrass some Raider fans…
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ROFLMAO…….
September 10th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
Perhaps we can swap Me-More for Craptree. I am darn sure that Mike Singlecell would pull the trigger on that one.
September 10th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
Do yourself a favor Raider Fans. Watch the Pittsburg game tonite. Get reacquainted with professional football. At least so you know what it looks like, and what we can aspire to. Because your standards have seriously deteriorated.
September 10th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
i don’t give a flying puck wut tedi bewbski has to say
September 10th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
I just pasted the quote from cbs sports website
September 10th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
Biz Markie Says:
September 10th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
seymour will play for pats this sunday, i heard it on sirious radio.
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Give a name who said it and when???????
Oh snap you cant……
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Considering New England plays on Monday night. There is no name.
September 10th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
SEYMOUR SIGNED WITH THE RAIDERS YESTERDAY! My friend cousin plays for the Oak and he spoke with him yesterday and RS is there and signed. HA HA HA HA HA HA screw BSPN they do not know squat.
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I guess we’ll find out Monday, if not sooner.
September 10th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
Here comes Biz Markie and Raiderman has his hands around Biz Markie’s neck….Oh Snap!
September 10th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
biz markie was one of the corniest east coast rappers ever. never liked that dude. He kinda reminds me of tom “gorrilla face” jackson…
September 10th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
Thec — Totally disagree about being able to draft Seymour’s replacement for less money/drama, etc…
According to a lot of guys, we should’ve drafted a D-lineman @ #7…
…and I say, what’s the record of #7 picks becoming instant Pro Bowlers? Without looking it up, I’d say the odds of it happening are pretty miniscule, based on previous draft history.
Taking the better part of a week to get this Pro Bowler’s contract hammered out isn’t that big of a deal to me. I just hope they get it done before things become acrimonious betwixt the sides. If Seymour’s not here soon, he’ll be traded to a third-party team in one monster deal. But, if he’s not careful, he’ll quickly diminish his own monetary value by not playing.
Al holds a big hammer, and it’s almost time to swing it.
September 10th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
at the very least we know Al is trying to get some DL help. more than he has tried before. if this deal falls through he will get someone else….i hope!
September 10th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
BSJ…
Or trade Jerry to the Napa Valley Register, for a case of good wine. Asking for a cask would be a deal breaker..
September 10th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
How could Seymour be there and signed? Doesn’t Florio have base camp set up around the perimeter of the Seymour home?
Only way we get a Seymour sighting is if he dangles his contract offer precariously over his balcony.
September 10th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
I think we know what real football looks like KK. I haven’t seen anyone in here saying that we are on the Steelers level.
I think the Steelers have the advantage of Dick Lebeau, and the players on defense to run his scheme.
We, on the other hand, have Marshall and are probably a player (seymour) or two (LB) away from him having the same luxury of LeBeau.
September 10th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
September 10th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
Thec — Totally disagree about being able to draft Seymour’s replacement for less money/drama, etc…
According to a lot of guys, we should’ve drafted a D-lineman @ #7…
…and I say, what’s the record of #7 picks becoming instant Pro Bowlers? Without looking it up, I’d say the odds of it happening are pretty miniscule, based on previous draft history.
Taking the better part of a week to get this Pro Bowler’s contract hammered out isn’t that big of a deal to me. I just hope they get it done before things become acrimonious betwixt the sides. If Seymour’s not here soon, he’ll be traded to a third-party team in one monster deal. But, if he’s not careful, he’ll quickly diminish his own monetary value by not playing.
Al holds a big hammer, and it’s almost time to swing it.
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Hayes, with all due respect bro Brace is probably going to be seymours replacement. we traded our 2nd round pick to new england and who did they pick?
Brace
September 10th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
hey, John Madden’s Influence on the NFL may keep the Zebras from screwing us over! lol
this is a great thing. I am sure he will volunteer to give his advise to Al Davis as well. After all, he has the love and passion for the game and the the league is better when the Raiders are good.
September 10th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
oh snap i just cant figure out why richard seymour wouldnt want to catch the first flight out to oakland…lol oh snap!
September 10th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
Cable needs to figure out how to get these players the ball. What is his plan to get McFadden singled up in coverage against a LB or S? What’s the plan to get DHB the ball? Murphy? Miller?
Underneath routes in case of a blitz? Hot reads?
We better not see the same ole 2 rec patterns with the TE staying in to block.
September 10th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/251576-non-seymour-raider-news-that-needs-discussion
Oh Snap! The source for the likely bogus “insider” Seymour signing comment.
September 10th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
Hayes, Do you think he plays in the game monday. That is all i am concerned about at this point is if he is playing on moday night….
September 10th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
My good buddy (who is a Raider fan, Jon) knows a guy who had his neck broken in a heated altercation.
It sounded like ‘Oh! Snap!’
September 10th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
And for anybody who said that John Madden hates Al Davis, … they are flat out wrong! Otherwise, he would not be on a Golf cart alongside Davis watching the practices. John also intends to attend all Raider home games. MOst likely, it will be in the luxury boxes up there on Mount Davis.
And remember when Al fired Lane Kiffin? At the press conference, Al alluded that he spoke with a well respected figure in the league with a good name about it and that person, (John Madden) asked Al, what is he going to do now?
I guess the haters who claimed John Hates Al are the same trolls who were banned from this blog? lol
September 10th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
Madden won’t be doing much for the NFL. His appointment is just window-dressing. They are worried about their image ahead of the showdown with the Union. Goodell looks too corporate.
Dick LeBeau is a great DC – but he has been greatly helped by having an owner, GM and Head Coach who have always allowed him enough influence to draft or sign the players he wanted to suit the scheme he ran. We have Al Davis.
September 10th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
thec!!!…he is playing monday night!!!!…the earlier game…lol oh snap
September 10th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
Thec07 Says:
September 10th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
Hayes, with all due respect bro Brace is probably going to be seymours replacement. we traded our 2nd round pick to new england and who did they pick?
Brace
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and who was the guy Florida Pete was screaming for from the beginning of January till the day of the draft???
Brace…
and who did we pick???
Mitchell…
and how is Mitchell doing these days???
September 10th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
Thec — I say he plays, as long as he’s in town by Saturday. And not for the Pats.
September 10th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
Even Tomlinson told you guys that the Chargers haven;t been able to run the ball on us lately. The thing we better be going over and over is knocking the DE being aware of where Sproles is. You can’t let him slip out of the backfield and get that swing pass going.
We won’t NEED Seymour until week 4.
September 10th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_cfG6p9xQ1vs/R8n4tN5ZIjI/AAAAAAAAADw/fwTUs5qeLlo/s200/2279034044_c6c5299fdf.jpg
September 10th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
from the Tweetacular Adam Schefter:
Money for nothing – Richard Seymour remains on Oakland’s 53-man roster, which means he’s on course to collect weekly check of $216,764.71.
September 10th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
Of course Madden doesn’t hate Davis. Just curious why he would consult with the NFL instead of the Raiders.
Probably know’s he couldn’t work here and stay friends at the same time. lol
September 10th, 2009 at 2:23 pm
Anyone who takes seriously a cut-and-pasted comment from a random anonymous guy on the Internet is well….not so bright. Much as I wish Seymour were in Oakland right now, he’s not nor does it look like he will be for some time.
September 10th, 2009 at 2:23 pm
Somehow, I don’t think Brace will be better than Seymour this year. It will take MANY years to prove he’s better than a 5-time Pro Bowler. Brace or Seymour? Seymour all day long. 2-years from now? Tougher to answer.
September 10th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
well then we need to get our draft pick back. if he hasn’t done a physical trade should be voided.
September 10th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
jhill Says:
September 10th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
Even Tomlinson told you guys that the Chargers haven;t been able to run the ball on us lately. The thing we better be going over and over is knocking the DE being aware of where Sproles is. You can’t let him slip out of the backfield and get that swing pass going.
We won’t NEED Seymour until week 4.
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We NEEDED Seymour in week 4 of 2007.
September 10th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
OH SNAP!!! My buddy’s wife’s hair stylist’s uncle’s vcr’s lunch box’s the color pink’s mammogram station wagon said Seymour is in Oakland, signed and fitted for pads as we speak!!
September 10th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
Entitled to your opinion Scottish …
Al Davis’ drafts have not been bad, IMO. He clearly saw the need to upgrade the Dline. Tried to trade for Wilfork, and ultimately Seymour.
I’m just not a believer in Head Coaches being anything more than a head coach. Especially 1st year head coaches, and guys new to the job.
September 10th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
The Raiders could manage it like a WWE event. Picture the scene near the end of tonight’s practice
Jim Ross: “Well, it’s looking like another disappointing night for the Raiders. No sign of Richard Seymour. He’s not in the buildi–”
*crashing glass*
*Seymour runs onto the field fully dressed a Raider uniform*
Jim Ross: “BY GAWD I DON’T BELIEVE IT. IT’S SEYMOUR! STONE COLD RICHARD SEYMOUR IS THE HOUSE! STONE COLD! STONE COLD!”
September 10th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
Both Monday Night games will be blowouts. The Patriots will dismantle the Bills by halftime. The Raiders will be lucky to score 3 field goals against San Diego. I say 38-9 San Diego, and that’s with most of their starters on the sideline in the 4th qtr. DuhMarcBust will surely get sacked and lose a fumble. Merriman will have a huge game, as will LT, Sproles, Gates, Jackson, Rivers… I have no confidence in DuhMarcBust or Cable’s play calling. The run D? What would be considered a success? Giving up less than 200 yards total?
September 10th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
September 10th, 2009 at 2:23 pm
Somehow, I don’t think Brace will be better than Seymour this year. It will take MANY years to prove he’s better than a 5-time Pro Bowler. Brace or Seymour? Seymour all day long. 2-years from now? Tougher to answer.
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Seymour was a pro-bowler his 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, and 6th years in the league…
the key item being his second year in the league…
anyone can sign a free agent… (well, almost)…
having a good draft is what makes a team a winner…
Mitchell will not be making us a winner…
September 10th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
KoolKell Says:
Of course Madden doesn’t hate Davis. Just curious why he would consult with the NFL instead of the Raiders.
Probably know’s he couldn’t work here and stay friends at the same time. lol
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KK — You’re actually probably more right than ever in here before. Madden and Al probably wouldn’t have nearly as close of a relationship as they share now if they worked with each other. And yes, they have a close relationship — so close, they are with each other during family emergencies.
September 10th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
Jerry, if 6 percent of his rushing yards come against the Raiders but he plays the Raiders 12.5 percent (2 games a year divided by 16 total) of the time…then really the Raiders do better against him than the league as an average, right?
September 10th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
Oh snap!…you bubblehaads dont get it,..Al Davis placed madden in league office,…hard ot believe you einsteins didnt get that easy one,..oh snap!
September 10th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
Does anyone else find it wierd that Madden Madden will be an unpaid advisor. Is that a real job. Couldnt Goodell called him for advise anyway.
Arent we all unpaid advisors.
September 10th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
September 10th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
jhill Says:
September 10th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
Even Tomlinson told you guys that the Chargers haven;t been able to run the ball on us lately. The thing we better be going over and over is knocking the DE being aware of where Sproles is. You can’t let him slip out of the backfield and get that swing pass going.
We won’t NEED Seymour until week 4.
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We NEEDED Seymour in week 4 of 2007.
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Try 2003
September 10th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
September 10th, 2009 at 2:23 pm
Somehow, I don’t think Brace will be better than Seymour this year. It will take MANY years to prove he’s better than a 5-time Pro Bowler. Brace or Seymour? Seymour all day long. 2-years from now? Tougher to answer.
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Hayes, not saying he will be better. NE is going to have problems with all the youth it has. Brace vs Seymour i take Seymour the next 3 years……
I hope he does play on monday if he does that changes the dynamics of the game. the chargers oline has 2 rookies starting. Rivers took a pounding in preseason.
September 10th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
really the madden nfl thing is no big deal he will probably just do conference calls from his home instead of travelling all the way to new york, working with the raiders would of been a full time gig and then some, he’s ready to relax but being a part of football is still in his heart.
September 10th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
PA: seymour did look stoned & cold in New England …
September 10th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
I cant wait for some REAL football 2nite. Thank God for the regular season. This has been the longest 7 months ever…….then again I say that every year.
September 10th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
Pete — I understand why you wanted someone else in Rd 2…but that has no bearing on whether or not Mike Mitchell will be a great player for the Raiders.
I’m all for Raji, Brace, and all the rest of the Linemen (O or D) having great careers…but they have no more potential for greatness than Mitchell has. His bum hammie makes it too easy to dismiss his talent right now.
Obviously, many of us would love to see you wrong in your assessment of the kid’s talent and potential. I know you’d like to be wrong this once, too!
September 10th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
the 1st time m. mitchell t-bones someone to the bench you will get hard, i guaratee it. i know i will
September 10th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
Why do they keep saying that the 2011 pick will be an all pro elite player. I was just reading somewhere that most of the players drafted in the fist round are not even starting for their team after 3 years. Thats one of the reasns why they are calling for a rookie salary cap.
September 10th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
Anyone know anything about OLB Chris Draft who got cut from the Rams today in a salary cap move?
Could be a good pickup. Rams fans commenting at the bottom of this story seem to think he was a good player.
http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/around-the-horns/around-the-horns/2009/09/rams-release-lb-chris-draft/
September 10th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
Still, it would have been nice to have Madden in some advisory capacity, and closely watching the Raiders.
And, how is it, that Mark Davis has never been groomed? Is he gay?
September 10th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
Jerry, Practice is late tonite so you will give an update as to what is going on right?
September 10th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
KK,
If it makes you feel better. Im sure Madden is an unpaid advisor for the Raiders as well.
September 10th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
KK — What’s with the homophobia already?
From one real common-sense post…to another that shows the real you busting through.
C’mon, man…
September 10th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
Raidertay Says:
September 10th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
KK,
If it makes you feel better. Im sure Madden is an unpaid advisor for the Raiders as well.
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Ah yeah, your assurances were all I needed.
September 10th, 2009 at 2:43 pm
this is the homecoming dance for many Raider players looking to make a name for themselves on offense this season
Russell, McFadden, Bush, O’Neal, Heyward-Bey, Murphy, Higgins, Myers, Henderson & Morris.
Miller & Gallery are already there. Walker is known, but not in Oakland and not after so many knee injuries. He has a lot to prove, but I don’t see him playing much unless Murphy gets hurt or needs a breather …
most importantly, it’s the debut of a Cable/Tollner/Hackett offense.
If SD creams our offense that feeling of “more of the same” will linger in the locker room all season long after another lopsided loss to a division opponent, one that only finished 8-8 last year and features a retread HC that didn’t get the job done in Washington or Oakland (of all places!)
September 10th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
Is Al Davis really Mark’s dad?
September 10th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
Or is it that Mark Davis won’t work for him either?
September 10th, 2009 at 2:48 pm
YOU GUYS MARK MY WORDS. IF WE BEAT THE CHARGERS ON MONDAY NIGHT YOU WILL SEE HOW QUICK SEYMORE WILL SHOW UP THE BRONCOS AND CHIEFS WILL BE NEXT AND OUR DIVISION IS WEEK BEHIND US AND THE CHARGERS HE WILL SEE THE POSSIBILTITY OF PLAYOFFS AND WILL BE ON THE FIRST FLIGHT TUESDAY MORNING.
September 10th, 2009 at 2:48 pm
I was totally serios guyz… Seymoar-money is in Oakland
September 10th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
And…Mark’s not already working for his father? Sure about that?
September 10th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
KoolKell, I am disappointed in you. I would expect homophobic remarks from someone like Beeecham. Lets cut out the silliness Kell. You don’t want to be disciplined.
September 10th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
Todd McShay and Eric Allen were upbeat about the Raiders on The Blitz. They WANT to like the Raiders and talked about the talent they have, but both are just not sure that they can bring it all together.
September 10th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
Eric Allen – picked the Raiders to win 7 games.
September 10th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
By the way, if anyone is interested. Here is the link to one of my favorite blogs. It happens to be a hobby of mine:
http://www.duckplanet.com/community_main.html
September 10th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
DID NORCOBOB GET BANNED?? HE MAKES ME LAUGH
September 10th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
Hmmmmm, now I’m really beginning to wonder.
September 10th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
I KNOW WE DIDNT LOOK STELLAR IN THE PRE-SEASON BUT I’M OF THE OPINION THAT WE DIDNT USE ANY OF OUR STAR BACKS AND EVERYONE KNEW WE WERE GOING TO PASS WHEN DMAC AND BUSH GET GOING THE TEAMS WILL HAVE TO BRING MORE GUYS UP TO HELP STOP THE RUN THEN WE CAN POP THEM WITH DEEP PASSES.
THAT STILL LEAVES OUR RUN DEF. ??????
September 10th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
OMG AL PAINE!!!!! YOU ARE INTO DUCKPLANET TOO!?
September 10th, 2009 at 2:57 pm
funny, I post a Raider football comment and every post since has been about the following:
homophobes, Mark Davis’ relationship with his father, rubber duckies and the possibility of other users being banned …
typical PM crew. I’m out
September 10th, 2009 at 2:57 pm
Check out this duck:
http://www.toplessrobot.com/duck.jpg
September 10th, 2009 at 2:58 pm
BSJ will confirm his love for rubber ducks
September 10th, 2009 at 2:59 pm
Rubber ducks appear to be my kryptonite
September 10th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
KoolKell:
http://www.demonoid.com/files/details/1879265/4986835/
In case you need to update the library…
September 10th, 2009 at 3:02 pm
Don’t get all self-righteous on us RRS…you’re going home for the day anyway, aren’t you? So you would’ve been “out” anyway. Just because your own post wasn’t answered, you’re offended. Sorry, dude. Later.
September 10th, 2009 at 3:03 pm
http://www.bostonglobe.com reporting seymour will be playin for pats monday night…I knew it!!! oh snap
September 10th, 2009 at 3:03 pm
I think Mark Davis know first hand that working in the NFL is not as glamorous as it looks. Long hours and lil recognition. I heam a lot of stories about Coaches and exec that sleep there overnite.
I remember graduating from college and going on a tour of a wall street investment banking firm and seeing all the sleeping bags underneath their desks. I said No Thanks. I dont care how much money you pay. I like actually going home at the end of the day. A lot of my friends on wall street work a min of 90 hrs a week. They are very well off, but to me its not worth it.
September 10th, 2009 at 3:04 pm
# Biz Markie Says:
September 10th, 2009 at 3:03 pm
http://www.bostonglobe.com reporting seymour will be playin for pats monday night…I knew it!!! oh snap
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yeah, no…
September 10th, 2009 at 3:05 pm
Biz Markie, you are a liar. Interesting, though, Jerry was quoted in the Boston Globe. Jerry is important. I don’t understand why he hasn’t been given a job at ESPN.
September 10th, 2009 at 3:05 pm
Raidertay #156
Really? C’mon man. lol
September 10th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
So…Seymour will be a good soldier in NE now, but not before now? That’s too simple. The team Seymour plays for this season will be paying him bigger $$, or guaranteeing him total Free Agency next year. More drama then Merrimen v Tequila.
September 10th, 2009 at 3:07 pm
Ok back from my picnic. How’s the squeaky clean board coming along? Jerry please ban the use of the word , “Snap”. Annoying, repeated overuse. How about giving him the ole’ “You all ready said that message.”
Well off to chior practise then knitting class. Making myself a cardigan with a matching muff!
September 10th, 2009 at 3:07 pm
Oh snap! Biz is a boldfaced liar! Oh snap!
September 10th, 2009 at 3:07 pm
no mcdonalds in bristol…lol…oh snap!
September 10th, 2009 at 3:08 pm
Can I say “muff”?
September 10th, 2009 at 3:08 pm
Im done talking about Seymore. Time to focus on the Chargers.
September 10th, 2009 at 3:09 pm
Biz Markie = norcomabob = RiRaider = Norcomabob =
September 10th, 2009 at 3:09 pm
As in muffed a punt?
September 10th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
Jerry’s not pretty enough and does not have good enough hair for BSPN. Otherwise he’d be a shoo-in…
September 10th, 2009 at 3:11 pm
Jerry how about deleting people with more than one log in?
September 10th, 2009 at 3:11 pm
lol girliedaze!!!…oh snap,…strike one!!!…try again!!! lol…oh snap!
September 10th, 2009 at 3:13 pm
McDonalds is giving out Jerry Mac bobblehead dolls. Or is that grimace?
September 10th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
Kirk Morrison tweet:
People ask me bout Seymour but I have no info. Getting ready 4 San Diego. I can’t control that situation but I can control how focused I am.
September 10th, 2009 at 3:19 pm
No problem, BM — You’ll soon be gone the way of some of your other aliases. So sad you’ll lose this little outlet for your pathetic sour soul.
September 10th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
# Sanitation Officer Albert Bigelow Paine Says:
September 10th, 2009 at 3:05 pm
Biz Markie, you are a liar. Interesting, though, Jerry was quoted in the Boston Globe. Jerry is important. I don’t understand why he hasn’t been given a job at ESPN.
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Jerry has far too much journalistic integrity to sell out to BSPN.
Oh, BTW, Jerry asked me to remind all you guys that you’d be doing yourself a favor to try the all-new Angus third-pounders at Mickey D’s. And if you need an afternoon pick-me-up, experience the bold and rich flavors of the McCafe.
September 10th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
raidertay Says:
September 10th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
Kirk Morrison tweet:
People ask me bout Seymour but I have no info. Getting ready 4 San Diego. I can’t control that situation but I can control how focused I am.
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Kirk Morrison retweet:
BTW we should have no prob stopping LT now that elbow bends both directions.
September 10th, 2009 at 3:23 pm
Chris — That was a funny joke.
September 10th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
LOL …
Has anyone seen the depth chart?
Fargas is starting according to the depth chart. Bush is #3.
September 10th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
Sign off haiku:
Fosters oil can
Becomes in twenty minutes
A smile and thick stream
September 10th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
San Diego is a must win…..actually sadly enough I would be happy if they simply show up and compete.
Amazin how low my expectations have become for my beloved Raiders.
September 10th, 2009 at 3:29 pm
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
September 10th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
raidertay Says:
September 10th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
Kirk Morrison tweet:
People ask me bout Seymour but I have no info. Getting ready 4 San Diego. I can’t control that situation but I can control how focused I am.
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Kirk Morrison retweet:
BTW we should have no prob stopping LT now that elbow bends both directions.
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Dude said that during the game he lifted his arm and his elbow was hangin down his arm. Thats crazy! They would have had to call the kart for me. lol
September 10th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
Yeah, BM/Troll — You’re one of the biggest whiners on the forum, calling somebody else a crybaby.
Instead of falling for your filth, hatred, vile and lies…I’d rather stay forward-thinking and optimistic about my favorite team’s future. Wallow in your own negative mire and self-loathing, but I’ll stay out of it, thank you very much.
Thanks for making me feel so much better about meself!
September 10th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
# jhill Says:
September 10th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
LOL …
Has anyone seen the depth chart?
Fargas is starting according to the depth chart. Bush is #3.
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That may be out of date.
Besides, Cable loves Janikowski’s skills out of the backfield. Seabass is your real starter.
September 10th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
Big night ahead…for the NFL, and for the Raiders. And for the owners of Richard Seymour’s contract, whomever they may be.
Rock on, Big Al!
It’s a great day to be Raiders fan. A REAL fan, better or worse. Isn’t it?
September 10th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
Just in from Dakota via a Fantasy Football email:
My dear friends, I have been unfairly banished from the blog, but please take heart, I will be patiently watching and waiting, and like Napoleon, I too shall escape my Elba.
September 10th, 2009 at 3:37 pm
Hey mods we are doing our part. Clean out the baiter and namecallers.
September 10th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
Just in from Dakota via a Fantasy Football email:
My dear friends, I have been unfairly banished from the blog, but please take heart, I will be patiently watching and waiting, and like Napoleon, I too shall escape my Elba.
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I think the over-under was 2 hours for Dakota getting banned.
Who had the under?
September 10th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
Back in April I never would have guessed that our opening day starters would be Murph and DHB. Good luck with that JRuss.
Well Somebody was telling me that San Diego’s secondary is also very young.
September 10th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
Not sure if this was covered already, but here’s some good news for you Bay Area residents in case there are no sellouts:
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/12186806
September 10th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
I should have said “any blackouts” instead of “no sellouts”. Sheesh.
September 10th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
# OAKlifer Says:
September 10th, 2009 at 5:58 am
LMN???
Did Denmark qaulify yesterday?????
‘futbol
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No, we effed it up, 1-1 against albania, meanwhile sweden won 0-1 against Malta, they actually couldnt beat them but malta scored a in their own goal, LOL pathetic…
this just means when sweden and denmark meets in october it will be max exciting… we are ahead 3 points so if we win or get a draw we will go to south africa…. we better =) sweden is our rivalry and not just in soccer…
I wont be able to see tonights game, have a lot of work so i hope i will see it in replay tomorrow…
have a nice night, and enjoy the start of the season, guys…
September 10th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
OKAY now Im officially fired up for MNF. Thanks for the motivation Schefter:
Chargers primed to win Super Bowl
Thursday, September 10, 2009 | Print Entry
Q: Adam, I saw you picked the Chargers to win the Super Bowl. Don’t you really think it’s just a crapshoot once you are in the playoffs, or do you feel they will get home field advantage? I love the pick! Just wondered how you came up with it? — Billy S. (Virginia Beach, Va.)
A: To be right on these picks always takes some luck, Billy. I always go back to what William Goldman said: “Nobody knows anything.” But San Diego is the heaviest division favorite out there, which is a start. The Chargers are loaded with personnel. They have a championship-caliber quarterback. And so they have enough ingredients, and that’s enough for me to pick. New England is the heavy favorite, and the Patriots wouldn’t surprise me at all. But San Diego has as decent a chance as anybody.
September 10th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
It is truly a sad day for this blog. Losing an entertaining member like Dakota will be felt by all. But, let this be a lesson to the rest of you. The IBA will no longer tolerate degenerate behavior.
As far as other are concerned, I recommend highly that the moderators ban Beeecham.
September 10th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
I don’t want to get banned but this is a NBC sports link regarding the results of the gender testing of the S. African 800m Female track star.
http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/32785120/ns/sports-olympic_sports/
September 10th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
If you are gonna clean up the blog, at least do it right. The arguement could be made that you have done everything wrong so far in allowing said behaviour to begin with.
Then a bunch of us were banned overnight with no explanation as to why. At least tell us why and what and then you need to give people three chances. Thats the custom out here in the WWW. Its the least you can do. But thats just my opinion.
September 10th, 2009 at 3:53 pm
RaidingTexas Says:
September 10th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
Not sure if this was covered already, but here’s some good news for you Bay Area residents in case there are no sellouts:
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/12186806
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I saw that. I never watched a NFL game online before. Does it work well??
September 10th, 2009 at 3:53 pm
No further comment on this subject.
September 10th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
This blog is dead. Did everyone get banned???
September 10th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
I watched many a preseason game online. the NFL Network has great regional coverage.
September 10th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
I haven’t tried it yet. But according to Exla, sounds good. I hope they do this whether the games are blacked out or not. I don’t get to see too many Raiders games on TV here.
September 10th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
September 10th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
I watched many a preseason game online. the NFL Network has great regional coverage.
:::::::::::::::
Do you still get commercials and huddles or is it sped up like NFL replay?? I love NFL replay.
September 10th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
Biz Markie should also be banned.
September 10th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
You get the home feed with the local announcers during the preseason. Not Sure how it works during the Reg Season.
September 10th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
that little adam replacement, laconflorio, sumpin like dat,..oh snap,..anyhoo he say seymour still in ne and wants to play opener for pats monday night and his team mates all pleading with bill to put him back on team. oh snap!
September 10th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
Al Davis should sign this guy:
http://buzz.yahoo.com/buzzlog/92995?fp=1
September 10th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
Dakota
Sorry you were banned, I will keep in touch. Good luck on the FFL.
September 10th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
Hey!!! LMN…Hows it going?
September 10th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
Just in from work….now all I have to do is try and stay awake for the game.
September 10th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
Check Check
Just making sure I am not banned.
September 10th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
Don’t worry Dakota I will continue to hate on Europeans for you while you are banned.
Do what I did when I was banned go to PFT and start blogging there you will get hooked.
September 10th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
This is a sad turn of events. Communication problems appear to be complicating the Richard Seymour situation. According to a source, Seymour wasn’t contacted by the Raiders as the trade was being worked out to see what his feeling was about coming to Oakland. Even now, communication among the Raiders, Patriots and Seymour is minimal, the source said.
The Patriots and Raiders have a disagreement over which team should send Seymour a letter ordering him to report. The Patriots’ position is that they have traded his contract and it’s not their problem. The Raiders’ position is that Seymour needs to report to complete the trade. And if you are wondering if the Raiders have offered him more money to come, that hasn’t happened yet. If Seymour continues to stay away, the league might have to get involved to sort out the disagreement between the two teams.
September 10th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
Silver-N-Black666….what have you got against Europeans ?
September 10th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
Jerry whats up with the new fun police thing? I mean we are raider fans. Come on have an open mind
September 10th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
Moderator Sir,
There is a stuck-up little English snob by the name of Albert Bigelow Paine who is causing a major annoyance to all of us good, hard working and loyal Raider Nation members.
We would like him permanently removed from your most honorable blog. And here’s why -
You see, your Honors, Albert was raised in the English countryside by nannies and servants who brought him cookies and candies whenever he’d throw a temper tantrum.
Legend has it he’d pee on the butler if he wasn’t tucked in properly at night.
Albert is well known through most of Britain for rolling around in his crib crying for 2 days straight because his parents got him a new Jaguar convertible on his 12th bday instead of a helicopter.
Anyway, Albert is spoiled rotten and proud of it. We would be overjoyed if he was regulated to Gwyneth Paltrow’s homemaking blog for the rest of his sappy little life.
Go Raiders.
September 10th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
These players are getting way to much in where they get drafted and by who. John Elway, Eli Manning, and even now they dont want to go to certain teams to make millions. Bunch of spoiled freakin kids, they should be happy to even be getting paid to play a game we cherish, look at Rubio in the NBA he entered the NBA draft he should have to play for the team that drafted him or get a lifetime ban. Crabtree is on the same list spoiled, spoiled, spoiled.
September 10th, 2009 at 4:23 pm
FREE DAKOTA!!!!!!!
September 10th, 2009 at 4:23 pm
Jerry let people say what they want just do something about Oakglens multiple logins, thanks in advance.
September 10th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
Free dakota.
September 10th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
The Oakland Raiders have signed former University of Wisconsin wide receiver Paul Hubbard to the practice squad.
The Raiders tried out Hubbard today as well as former Arkansas defensive back Jamar Love.
Hubbard was drafted in the sixth round last year by the Cleveland Browns and spent time on their practice squad.
He’s a big, physical wideout at 6-foot-2, 225 pounds
September 10th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
Free speach
September 10th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
FREE DAKOTA!!
and that’s the truth because “STONE COLD SAID SO!”
Time to go watch some football.
Later Nation.
September 10th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
free seymour from the gates of Hell…(alameda) lol…oh snap!!
September 10th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
R8dr4lfe21 where did you get that info from?
September 10th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
neilb
Learn how to READ!!!!
September 10th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
John Clayton BSPN
September 10th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
Fun police=buzz kill
September 10th, 2009 at 4:33 pm
And where is the fix
September 10th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
Sorry….”I will continue to hate on Europeans” to me it seems that you dislike europeans. If I’ve misunderstood you….then sorry.
Hey!!!I’m just tried and beat,trying to keep awake for the game and losing the battle !
September 10th, 2009 at 4:45 pm
Well Dakota hates Europeans so I was just trying to keep his seat warm until he gets back.
I myself have no problems with Europeans.
Have a beer on me tonight!!
September 10th, 2009 at 4:48 pm
Moderator, at the request of the IBA Sanitation Task Force, I suggest you ban Beeecham for life. He is a danger to the normal/non offensive/bland discourse that you desire. He is also very likely a danger to himself and to society. I suggest water boarding also.
September 10th, 2009 at 4:50 pm
No problem here Silver-N-Black666.
Don’t know ’bout that beer though,I’m of to stick my head in a sink of cold water and then on to the game!!
Back tomorrow.
September 10th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
If the Raiders were to contact Seymour to find out his “feelings” before the deal was made, would that not be considered tampering and subject Al to a hefty fine from the commish?
Seymour needs to get his corpulent gluteus maximus in Alameda…
September 10th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
# exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
September 10th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
Just in from Dakota via a Fantasy Football email:
My dear friends, I have been unfairly banished from the blog, but please take heart, I will be patiently watching and waiting, and like Napoleon, I too shall escape my Elba.
=====================================================
Someone explain to missed-a-brain that he is not referencing Napoleon Harris.
September 10th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
Oak
I thought he pushed the envelope a little to hard today.
I know the feeling tell him to go to PFT I will blog with him there.
September 10th, 2009 at 5:06 pm
In the wake of the Richard Seymour debacle, 97 year old Al Davis hires a new cap-ologist and player personnel advisor to provide expertise in turning the Raiders around:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_the_Headless_Chicken
Greetings from Boston (where the Raiders are, as always, getting lots of laughs)
September 10th, 2009 at 5:06 pm
By the way, Coach Belichick would never ever have let the Raiders attempt to negotiate with a player on his team. AL. Keep on going. 0 and 16, baby. Think about changing the name to the Oakland Clippers.
September 10th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
Mr. Moderator Sir -
Obviously Albert Bigelow Paine’s “task force” is made up of his favorite teddy bears and pet kittens.
We, the proud members of the Nation, respectfully ask that Albert – and other English kids like him – are directed immediately to Gwyneth Paltrow’s web blog.
If not, you’ll soon see a large number of your faithful blog readers discuss tea recipes and DVRing cooking shows from the BBC.
September 10th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
MistabrownEYE Not the one that winks but the one that stinks!
That guy couldn’t comprehend a Dick and Jane book let alone French History!
September 10th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
Why would Dakota be banned? He must have using alias’
No word on Seymour yet?
September 10th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
Wow. The words by LT and Norv Turner were a little too nice. Look, I don’t want to be friends with them, I want to kick their butts. Now can we please get Richard Seymour on the team already so we can make that happen?
September 10th, 2009 at 5:09 pm
The Black Eyed Peas should be banned from ever performing at a NFL function ever again.
September 10th, 2009 at 5:09 pm
Did you see Bob Costas’ rug trying to fly off his dome in the wind in Pittsburgh just now? LOL…
September 10th, 2009 at 5:10 pm
Krappy, the only word on Seymour is that no one wants to See More of your turd-crusted undies.
Get it, you old goat – “see more”?
Nice one, Beech!
September 10th, 2009 at 5:10 pm
I’m not against the extra security of the blog but I think theres a bit of a conspiracy as the Raiders are usually the leaders in penalties and now their blog is as well. It wouldn’t feel right if the team got all the yellow flags and we didn’t right? Its in our nature. haha.
September 10th, 2009 at 5:10 pm
Dakota Gone
And the Bowel Movement Patrol 666 & Beecham still here?
That’s pretty bad.
September 10th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
PFTV SegmentsPFT GearLive BlogsRadio ScheduleAbout
ContactFeedsAdvertisingPrivacy PolicyRaiders send Seymour letter
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on September 10, 2009 7:56 PM ET
According to Greg Papa, the voice of the Raiders, Oakland’s position on the muddled Richard Seymour matter is crystal clear: they want him.
To help get him, Papa reports that the Raiders have sent Seymour a letter “saying he had five days upon receipt to report to the Raiders and take a physical.”
It’s unclear when the Raiders sent the letter or what will happen if Seymour continues to fail to show up in Oakland. If the five days elapse, Oakland would have the right to place him on the roster/suspended.
In that scenario, the Raiders would retain his rights in 2010 at his 2009 salary, but he would miss the entire season.
Absolutely no one wants that to happen, so the nuclear option seems unlikely. Then again, there don’t seem to be any “compromise” alternatives. Seymour either has to show up or the Raiders won’t have much choice.
The letter does indicate, though, that Oakland is not interested in trying to get their first-round pick back. They want Seymour. Mr. Florio also points out there is speculation among league insiders that the Raiders didn’t include language in the trade documents that would have scuttled the deal if Seymour didn’t report.
Perhaps that’s why the Patriots are so confident that the issue “is between [Seymour] and Oakland.”
The clock is ticking. Your move, Richard.
September 10th, 2009 at 5:12 pm
KK you get banned for a lot more things than using an alias.
Foul language
Derogatory comments
calling Jerry lazy
Saying things about the mod (apparently anything the little guy is very sensitive)
Racist comments
ETC.
September 10th, 2009 at 5:12 pm
In the wake of the Richard Seymour debacle, 97 year old Al Davis hires a new cap-ologist and player personnel advisor to provide expertise in turning the Raiders around:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_the_Headless_Chicken
September 10th, 2009 at 5:12 pm
Seymour got sent the 5 day letter says greg papa and pft
September 10th, 2009 at 5:12 pm
***RED ALERT RED ALERT****
Beeecham, post #240, ban worthy post.
September 10th, 2009 at 5:12 pm
JT poops bricks.
September 10th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
***RED ALERT RED ALERT****
Beeecham, post #240, ban worthy post
September 10th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
PFT.com
Raiders send Seymour letter
According to Greg Papa, the voice of the Raiders, Oakland’s position on the muddled Richard Seymour matter is crystal clear: they want him.
To help get him, Papa reports that the Raiders have sent Seymour a letter “saying he had five days upon receipt to report to the Raiders and take a physical.”
It’s unclear when the Raiders sent the letter or what will happen if Seymour continues to fail to show up in Oakland. If the five days elapse, Oakland would have the right to place him on the roster/suspended.
In that scenario, the Raiders would retain his rights in 2010 at his 2009 salary, but he would miss the entire season.
Absolutely no one wants that to happen, so the nuclear option seems unlikely. Then again, there don’t seem to be any “compromise” alternatives. Seymour either has to show up or the Raiders won’t have much choice.
The letter does indicate, though, that Oakland is not interested in trying to get their first-round pick back. They want Seymour. Mr. Florio also points out there is speculation among league insiders that the Raiders didn’t include language in the trade documents that would have scuttled the deal if Seymour didn’t report.
Perhaps that’s why the Patriots are so confident that the issue “is between [Seymour] and Oakland.”
The clock is ticking. Your move, Richard.
September 10th, 2009 at 5:14 pm
blog casualties.. norco bob, richochet.. lol. anybody else?
September 10th, 2009 at 5:14 pm
seymour tell the raiders where they can stick that letter!!!!…do not cave in and show up here!!!…you are a pro, you dont deserve this treatment…oh snap.
September 10th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
Next on the ban list: Beeecham and Biz Markie.
September 10th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
I hope Seymour holds a press conference to announce that he refuses to play for the Raiders. How’s that for national exposure, Al?
September 10th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
richard seymour, you are a pro, a pro bowler, you have talent,…you do not belong in oakland!!!…retire before coming to oakland, its the better move,…ask randy moss,..burgess,..sapp,..hall,..they arent lying richard!!!! oh snap
September 10th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
Whats up Beechum you see old krappy kell is up to his senile ways again.
He had a long car ride today to the doctor to get his prostate checked and he ran out of Preparation H last night so his hemorrhoids swelled up and of course he couldn’t control his bowel movements in the car with those swollen hemorrhoids you get the picture.
September 10th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
Seymour…Don’t be a Crabtree. Report to the team. Your $3.6 Million Salary will be waiting for you at the Raiders HQ Mailbox.
September 10th, 2009 at 5:17 pm
The world’s worst franchise and the dumbest front office. Belichick is laughing. RS probably wasn’t going to play that much anyway. He was left off the game day roster last year and then his teammates stripped him of his captain status.
LOL!! Dumb. No language in the trade agreement!! SUCKERS. RS has bum knees and a crappy attitude.
September 10th, 2009 at 5:17 pm
Who liked to bet on NFL?
Tenn will hammer Pitt.
rack me
September 10th, 2009 at 5:17 pm
Great,we lose a no.1 pick and gain the right to trade a guy who doesn’t want to play for us. I can’t believe Al would not include in the trade agreement a clause that rescinds the deal if Seymour doesn’t report. If so, he has slipped more than anyone suspected.
September 10th, 2009 at 5:18 pm
*likes*
I have to correct typos now so Ninnyglen has nothing to talk about, sorry!
September 10th, 2009 at 5:18 pm
Boston lets out a collective laugh. MORONS. The Raiders should be put in receivership.
September 10th, 2009 at 5:18 pm
I won’t bet but I think the Steelers will win. The DC of the Titans (Jim Schwartz) and Haynesworth are gone and I think thats going to be huge in this game.
September 10th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
I guess you could say Dakota was to this blog today what Tyler Brayton was to Jeremy Stevens:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=en9FJ5nRDy8
The ironic thing is Dakota was never that over-the-top with stuff as far as I remember. He only lashed out when they announced they were going strict.
September 10th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
Chris in NY – My only thought is…He didn’t have to lash out. Just go with the flow and enjoy the show.
September 10th, 2009 at 5:21 pm
Mistabrown Says:
September 10th, 2009 at 5:17 pm
Who liked to bet on NFL?
Tenn will hammer Pitt.
rack me
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Brown what do you want to wager???????
September 10th, 2009 at 5:22 pm
heck with that top pick the raiders lost, who cares??????…lol oh snap…whoever He would have drafted would have sucked anyway, ok he would be fast but bfd…I absolutely love that seymour wont show and we lose top draft pick,…love it!!!! lol oh snap!
September 10th, 2009 at 5:22 pm
Seymour…take your anger out on the Chargers. Thats all you have to do.
September 10th, 2009 at 5:23 pm
What do the Raiders get by forcing Seymour here? Not the Seymour the Patriots had, that’s for sure.
September 10th, 2009 at 5:23 pm
Jerrys tweet say will joseph is back!!!! whew close call!!! oh snap!!.,….hold your ground seymour,..do not show!!! oh snap
September 10th, 2009 at 5:23 pm
MistaBrownEye
Not the one that winks but the one that STINKS!!
So you say Take Tenn and the 7 points
I have the under tonight (36 points)
September 10th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
Brown I will take Pitt straight up, wager a
C note ……
September 10th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
How can a team with almost NO talent give away a potential #1 draft pick for a rental player who will figure out a way to go on the IR? Idiots. The league should take over the Oakland Clippers.
September 10th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
“Prepping for no Seymoue. Joesph is back.”–Jerry’s twitter and spelling…
September 10th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
No one would trade with the Raiders for Seymour. The Raiders would have no leverage.
September 10th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
They should trade Seymour when he gets here and the best move would be for Peppers.
September 10th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
24 shut up,..we dont want seymour here you ninny!!!…but of snap i aint worried, richard is smart, he knows retirement is better then playin here.
September 10th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
Peppers would also want to get out of Siberia. What a joke. The nation is laughing. This is like when Geo on Seinfeld bought a beat up Dodge because it was formerly owned by Jon Voight and then finding out it was a different Jon Voight.
That at least had a laugh track so folks would know when to laugh.
September 10th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
666 you retard!!!! you think peppers would report here?????????????…idiot post of the day…lol oh snap.
September 10th, 2009 at 5:27 pm
666 is retarded oh snap,..funny retard though!
September 10th, 2009 at 5:27 pm
Mistabrown Says:
September 10th, 2009 at 5:17 pm
Who liked to bet on NFL?
Tenn will hammer Pitt.
rack me
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Brown, I will take Pittsburgh straight up…
for a C note……
September 10th, 2009 at 5:27 pm
oh really 75?…geez thanks, we didnt know that…lol oh snap.
September 10th, 2009 at 5:28 pm
PFT Reporting that the Raiders have sent Seymour the 5 day letter
September 10th, 2009 at 5:28 pm
Trade Seymour and the #1 draft pick in 2012 for the rights to Rae Carruth and a used jock strap which Al can use as a truss.
September 10th, 2009 at 5:28 pm
Raiders send Seymour letter
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on September 10, 2009 7:56 PM ET
According to Greg Papa, the voice of the Raiders, Oakland’s position on the muddled Richard Seymour matter is crystal clear: they want him.
To help get him, Papa reports that the Raiders have sent Seymour a letter “saying he had five days upon receipt to report to the Raiders and take a physical.”
It’s unclear when the Raiders sent the letter or what will happen if Seymour continues to fail to show up in Oakland. If the five days elapse, Oakland would have the right to place him on the roster/suspended.
In that scenario, the Raiders would retain his rights in 2010 at his 2009 salary, but he would miss the entire season.
Absolutely no one wants that to happen, so the nuclear option seems unlikely. Then again, there don’t seem to be any “compromise” alternatives. Seymour either has to show up or the Raiders won’t have much choice.
The letter does indicate, though, that Oakland is not interested in trying to get their first-round pick back. They want Seymour. Mr. Florio also points out there is speculation among league insiders that the Raiders didn’t include language in the trade documents that would have scuttled the deal if Seymour didn’t report.
Perhaps that’s why the Patriots are so confident that the issue “is between [Seymour] and Oakland.”
The clock is ticking. Your move, Richard.
September 10th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
sorry for the repost
September 10th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
This is the gayest pregame show I have ever seen in my life.
September 10th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
This is not football. Its people magazine,WWF, hollywood and Perez Hilton but it isnt football
September 10th, 2009 at 5:32 pm
NEWS REPORT. Raiders hire new head of player development:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_the_Headless_Chicken
September 10th, 2009 at 5:32 pm
They want Seymour. Mr. Florio also points out there is speculation among league insiders that the Raiders didn’t include language in the trade documents that would have scuttled the deal if Seymour didn’t report.
……………
If this is true, its just another example of Al’s ego getting the best of him. I guess it never crossed his mind that Seymour might not want to be a Raider.
Sad.
September 10th, 2009 at 5:33 pm
What a lousy day, The NFL went hollywood and Jerrys blog went straight.
September 10th, 2009 at 5:33 pm
Another Measurement of the Raider Organization:
Last week we looked at the raw numbers of what each team in the NFL spent from 2004-08, with the clear indication being that many of the most successful organizations spent in the middle of the pack, while several of the top five spending teams suffered.
Now, we’re going to rank the teams in terms of “bang for their buck” — how much each club spent per win the past five seasons. The sheer disparity between, say, what the New England Patriots spent on each victory, versus the Oakland Raiders at the bottom of the list, indicated the inefficiencies in dollar terms. And remember, this is not salary cap spending, this is actual dollars as per the NFL Management Council.
Read: Colts 2009 Team Preview
Okay, here’s the list:
Team Wins Committed Cash Cost Per Win
1.) Patriots 63 512.31M 8.14 M
2.) Colts 63 532.77 M 8.44 M
3.) Chargers 54 485.46 M 8.99 M
4.) Steelers 56 516.69 M 9.22 M
5.) Broncos 47 485.40 M 10.37 M
6.) Giants 47 497.63 M 10.58 M
7.) Jaguars 45 480.06 M 10.66 M
8. ) Eagles 46 495.75 M 10.77 M
9.) Bears 45 495.57 M 11.01 M
10.) Packers 41 457.16 M 11.15 M
11.) Panthers 45 516.09 M 11.46 M
12.) Ravens 44 507.05 M 11.52 M
13.) Titans 40 465.28 M 11.63 M
14.) Bucs 38 449.00 M 11.81 M
15.) Seahawks 45 552.42 M 12.27 M
16.) Falcons 41 493.07 M 12.07 M
17.) Cowboys 46 566.89 M 12.32 M
18.) Vikings 41 526.87 M 12.85 M
19.) Bengals 38 491.05 M 12.92 M
20.) Jets 37 502.53 M 13.58 M
21.) Bills 35 483.71 M 13.82 M
22.) Chiefs 32 451.58 M 14.11 M
23.) Saints 36 518.49 M 14.40 M
24.) Redskins 38 547.37 M 14.40 M
25.) Cardinals 34 505.30 M 14.86 M
26.) Dolphins 31 500.56 M 16.14 M
27.) Texans 31 522.23 M 16.84 M
28.) Browns 28 506.43 M 18.08 M
29.) Rams 27 502.08 M 18.59 M
30.) 49ers 25 486. 40 M 19.45 M
31.) Lions 21 505.04 M 24.04 M
32.) Raiders 20 513.21 M 25.66 M
The bottom quarter of the league all spent roughly twice as much per win as the Pats, and all of those clubs, save the Houston Texans, have made coaching and/or management changes in the past year (it also explains why some believe this is a make-or-break season for the Houston brass). The Raiders are, in these terms, three-times as poorly operated as the Patriots.
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September 10th, 2009 at 5:34 pm
It is worth $4MM for RS to hold out and get traded. He would have missed most of the season with his crappy knees anyway.
You guys bought a used car with the odometer turned back. MORONS
September 10th, 2009 at 5:35 pm
Last thing showed was the shield and they said This was a presentation of the NFL network.
September 10th, 2009 at 5:35 pm
is norcobob banned ???
September 10th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
Michael—— The sanitation dude is looking for you, something about a banning and a foul mouth
September 10th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
dang 75,..without you we wouldnt know whats goin on in the nfl world…lol..oh snap.
September 10th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
909RaiderLifer Says:
September 10th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
If the Raiders were to contact Seymour to find out his “feelings” before the deal was made, would that not be considered tampering and subject Al to a hefty fine from the commish?
—————
Definitely.
As well, when Dieon Sanders made the comment, on NFL Network, that 2 teams had contacted the 49ers regarding trading for Crabtree, and supposedly willing to pay his outlandish requests, that’s tampering..big time.
Considering Sanders works for the league, he should either admit he made that up, turn over the teams that supposedly tampered, or look for a new line of work.
The plot thickens…
September 10th, 2009 at 5:37 pm
A little guy that writes at about the 4th grade level has a 10 word vocabulary and an IQ below 85 is calling people in here retards?
September 10th, 2009 at 5:37 pm
If Seymour is doing the “I’ll sit out a year rather than report” thing, he might want to reconsider. The one owner in the league that will allow him to sit and rot for a year, just out of spite, is Al Davis. And good luck getting out of that 2010 contract, too. Don’t think he’d do it? Ask Marcus Allen, or anybody else that’s been in his doghouse. If Seymour’s contract does indeed belong to the Raiders, he should probably tread carefully because Al’s just vindictive enough to shelve the guy.
September 10th, 2009 at 5:37 pm
Al sighting
http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3Fp%3Ddecrepit%2Bold%2Bman%26js%3D1%26ei%3Dutf-8%26y%3DSearch%26fr%3Dyfp-t-871&w=352&h=349&imgurl=www.grg.org%2Fimages%2FGBWROldestManHx.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.grg.org%2FCalmentMen.html&size=24k&name=GBWROldestManHx+…&p=decrepit+old+man&oid=a5cc4d82aab4802e&fr2=&no=17&tt=307&sigr=1120en4f7&sigi=1166g1u16&sigb=133khqdtp
September 10th, 2009 at 5:38 pm
I didn’t have a problem with the trade when it happened but if he got the 5 day letter i hope he stays at home. He is already (should be) hated by the entire Raider Nation. Do us all a favor and retire.
And Al i’ve defended you for years but if you didn’t put a clause in their to protect the team then you suck too. I would hope that if the current Raider team has an ounce of pride they take this as a personal insult and play with some pride. The NFL has no respect for you. Start busting some heads! Its time for the players to step up and handle this. Management doesn’t play the game. Respect is earned on the field, go and get it already.
September 10th, 2009 at 5:39 pm
Hey 299
5′11″ Two graduate degrees. It’s hard not to laugh.
September 10th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
What do you get if you combine the 49ers and the Oakland Clippers? The taxi squad of an NFL team.
September 10th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
repost
YOU GUYS MARK MY WORDS. IF WE BEAT THE CHARGERS ON MONDAY NIGHT YOU WILL SEE HOW QUICK SEYMORE WILL SHOW UP THE BRONCOS AND CHIEFS WILL BE NEXT AND OUR DIVISION IS WEEK BEHIND US AND THE CHARGERS HE WILL SEE THE POSSIBILTITY OF PLAYOFFS AND WILL BE ON THE FIRST FLIGHT TUESDAY MORNING.
September 10th, 2009 at 5:41 pm
seymour, hold your ground, you dont deserve this…no football is better then raiduh football….lol..oh snap.
September 10th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
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September 10th, 2009 at 5:43 pm
This Seymour odyessy should teach the Raiders and all football observers a lesson!
It is always better to develop your own talent. The Raiders tried to get over on the cheap by shortshrifting the front 7 and O-Line. The hope was John Marshall could duct tape this thing and therefore not have to invest a top draft pick in the lines. Due to the preference to use the top picks for skill postion players.
The other issue is that trying to get elite talent by trade is not easy and you end up bringing in malcontents in a lot of cases. Very disruptive.
Regardless, I applaud Al Davis for trying to resolve a situation that is really unacceptable. The run defense. Davis was bold and aggressive in trying to do something. Just wish it was a few months earlier.
Hopefully Seymour shows up!
September 10th, 2009 at 5:43 pm
Man, the haters are here in full force. You think one of these posters might be Eugene Parker?
September 10th, 2009 at 5:44 pm
Therapy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkulytNYbhw
September 10th, 2009 at 5:44 pm
Here is the dialog between Belichick and Davis:
BB: Hey, Al. Richard Seymour might be available.
AD: Are you here to take away my bedpan?
BB: No, Richard Seymour. Five time pro bowler.
AD: Do they give me Jello today. I like it when they put the fruit in there.
BB: We love him, but he is available. How about a 3rd rounder?
AD: I want my Jello first before the peas. How come my great grandchildren never visit anymore?
BB: A first rounder? OK, we will do that.
AD: They don’t let me have sharp objects anymore.
BB: It is OK. Just use a pencil.
September 10th, 2009 at 5:45 pm
Who belives Cable actually spoke with Seymour?
September 10th, 2009 at 5:47 pm
How about the Rae Carruth deal? OK, the Panthers will do it for next year’s second rounder.
September 10th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
Tomlin = The most violent team will win
September 10th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
Snb he was trying way back in april to get wilfork when he was tryong to trade burgess but the pats didn’t want to give him up so my thinking is that al has been trying to find a way to get him since then but finally settled on seymour
September 10th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
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September 10th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
Would not be surprised if Al sent that 5 day letter via Pony Express…..
September 10th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
Al probably sent RS his false teeth by mistake and he sent the 5 day letter to his proctologist
September 10th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
Richochet Says:
September 10th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
909RaiderLifer Says:
September 10th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
If the Raiders were to contact Seymour to find out his “feelings” before the deal was made, would that not be considered tampering and subject Al to a hefty fine from the commish?
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Definitely.
As well, when Dieon Sanders made the comment, on NFL Network, that 2 teams had contacted the 49ers regarding trading for Crabtree, and supposedly willing to pay his outlandish requests, that’s tampering..big time.
Considering Sanders works for the league, he should either admit he made that up, turn over the teams that supposedly tampered, or look for a new line of work.
The plot thickens…
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How is it tampering if an interested team, say Ten., contacts the 9ers(who hold the rights to crabtree). It would be tampering if they contacted crabtree or his agent, or anybody that isnt the team that holds his rights.
Once again, think before you speak.
September 10th, 2009 at 5:50 pm
Canadian Raider Says:
September 10th, 2009 at 5:45 pm
Who belives Cable actually spoke with Seymour?
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Not me!
September 10th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
Madden would be very embarrassed League wide, working here.
The Raiders are now the Cincy Bengals of the 21st century.
September 10th, 2009 at 5:52 pm
Cable never talked to seymour and he was obviously lying when he said seymour wanted to be here
September 10th, 2009 at 5:52 pm
That’s run defense!
September 10th, 2009 at 5:53 pm
Who wants a liar for a head coach, first he denied the punch out and now this.
September 10th, 2009 at 5:55 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 10th, 2009 at 5:50 pm
Canadian Raider Says:
September 10th, 2009 at 5:45 pm
Who belives Cable actually spoke with Seymour?
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Not me!
the raiders told calbe to say that
September 10th, 2009 at 5:55 pm
Woj the teams didn’t contact the 49ers they contacted crabtree I hate to agree with ricochet but he’s right
September 10th, 2009 at 5:55 pm
SnB… All due respect, but Al is paying Tommy Kelly and Gerard Warren a ton of money to play defensive tackle. He just wasn’t going to tie up more money at the position with a high draft choice, and there just weren’t any 4-3 defensive ends in this years’ draft worth taking that high. That’s why he went out and got Ellis, and that’s why he is trying to get Seymour. Those two are just much better than anyone he could have drafted to play there this year. A case could have been made for Maualuga, I suppose, but maybe they just didn’t think he was that good, I don’t know. A lot of teams passed on him before the Bungles called his name. This years’ draft is, apparently, much better for the defensive line; that may have been part of it, too.
September 10th, 2009 at 5:56 pm
16yearsold16yearfan Says:
September 10th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
Snb he was trying way back in april to get wilfork when he was tryong to trade burgess but the pats didn’t want to give him up so my thinking is that al has been trying to find a way to get him since then but finally settled on seymour
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Maybe he was trying. Maybe not. The priority for the Raiders is to be stacked at the skill positions with elite level players and to “get-by” with developmental guys on the Lines.
It reached a peak this time because that defensive line doesn’t stand a chance against physical O-Lines.
A top draft pick should have been used on the lines…hence the 9th inning grab for Seymour. Mitchell might become a great player…same with D-HB…but notice that even with Mitchell a non-factor in the preseason…the Raiders had enough depth to move forward. Not the case on the lines.
I really hope Seymour gets here. He can make a substantive difference and get this team a few extra wins. He really is a missing piece for this defense
September 10th, 2009 at 5:56 pm
All head coaches are liars name one that tells the truth even 75% of the time
September 10th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
New rules? Whatever…guess some nerds will have to find other websites to stroke themselves on.
Seymour sighting! Who’s laughing now? Time to abandon the life boats and get back on the ship…
808 shout…
September 10th, 2009 at 6:00 pm
seymour is my new hero,..stay away bro, do not let them ruin your career,…you dont deserve this treatment. oh snap.
September 10th, 2009 at 6:00 pm
16years read what rich wrote:
“that 2 teams had contacted the 49ers regarding trading for Crabtree”
not that they had contacted crabtree, i’m just talking about what rich wrote, period.
September 10th, 2009 at 6:01 pm
Hey, look at it this way.
Richard Seymour is an Oakland Raider and there is nothing New England can do about it.
September 10th, 2009 at 6:03 pm
ryan, you serious?…lol oh snap…the pats got what they wanted!!!
September 10th, 2009 at 6:03 pm
Has a team ever fired a coach before he coached his first game?
September 10th, 2009 at 6:04 pm
Well he was wrong then because the teams didn’t contact the 49ers the contacted carbtree and eugene parker
September 10th, 2009 at 6:05 pm
SnB
I hope Seymour NEVER plays for Oakland, he’s turning down millions because he doesn’t want to be on the team. You can not win with a player like that. I hate to say it but the Pats got over on us. When have we ever had Raiders that didn’t want to be with the team and still produced at a high level. Best case scenario is that this embarrasses the team into winning. I don’t think i’ve ever hated a player more than Seymour. He’s spitting in Al’s face, in the players faces and every one of the fans faces. This is the type of thing that destroys a season before it even starts. I was hoping for a 9 win season but we would be lucky to pull out 3 wins. The whole team was excited about this bum showing up, watch how they collapse when they hear about the 5 day letter.
September 10th, 2009 at 6:05 pm
Lowdown….
Whats up?
Wow– Polumalu (sp?) is in on durn near every play.
September 10th, 2009 at 6:06 pm
How bout the timing of this latest County Fair Circus?
MNF Opening Nite vs. Chargers.
September 10th, 2009 at 6:07 pm
Even if Seymour doesn’t play against SD, I’d take 15 games from him.
The Raiders still have a first round pick money on the table for Seymour.
I just hope the Raiders were smart enough to send the 5 day letter right away.
September 10th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
Some great tackling tonight. By both teams.
September 10th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
Until I hear Seymour say he doesn’t want to play for the Raiders I will continue to think he is working on a long term deal thus keeping quiet. Usually a player will talk to the media right away ala Terrell Owens when his agent screwed up and they traded him to Baltimore. Right away TO said I’m not playing for them. I think the league stepped in and a new deal was made. Anyways Seymour isn’t saying it and his agent isn’t saying it. This makes me think they are trying to get a long term deal done.
September 10th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
# KoolKell Says:
September 10th, 2009 at 5:33 pm
Another Measurement of the Raider Organization:
Last week we looked at the raw numbers of what each team in the NFL spent from 2004-08, with the clear indication being that many of the most successful organizations spent in the middle of the pack, while several of the top five spending teams suffered.
Now, we’re going to rank the teams in terms of “bang for their buck” — how much each club spent per win the past five seasons. The sheer disparity between, say, what the New England Patriots spent on each victory, versus the Oakland Raiders at the bottom of the list, indicated the inefficiencies in dollar terms. And remember, this is not salary cap spending, this is actual dollars as per the NFL Management Council.
Read: Colts 2009 Team Preview
Okay, here’s the list:
Team Wins Committed Cash Cost Per Win
1.) Patriots 63 512.31M 8.14 M
2.) Colts 63 532.77 M 8.44 M
3.) Chargers 54 485.46 M 8.99 M
4.) Steelers 56 516.69 M 9.22 M
5.) Broncos 47 485.40 M 10.37 M
6.) Giants 47 497.63 M 10.58 M
7.) Jaguars 45 480.06 M 10.66 M
8. ) Eagles 46 495.75 M 10.77 M
9.) Bears 45 495.57 M 11.01 M
10.) Packers 41 457.16 M 11.15 M
11.) Panthers 45 516.09 M 11.46 M
12.) Ravens 44 507.05 M 11.52 M
13.) Titans 40 465.28 M 11.63 M
14.) Bucs 38 449.00 M 11.81 M
15.) Seahawks 45 552.42 M 12.27 M
16.) Falcons 41 493.07 M 12.07 M
17.) Cowboys 46 566.89 M 12.32 M
18.) Vikings 41 526.87 M 12.85 M
19.) Bengals 38 491.05 M 12.92 M
20.) Jets 37 502.53 M 13.58 M
21.) Bills 35 483.71 M 13.82 M
22.) Chiefs 32 451.58 M 14.11 M
23.) Saints 36 518.49 M 14.40 M
24.) Redskins 38 547.37 M 14.40 M
25.) Cardinals 34 505.30 M 14.86 M
26.) Dolphins 31 500.56 M 16.14 M
27.) Texans 31 522.23 M 16.84 M
28.) Browns 28 506.43 M 18.08 M
29.) Rams 27 502.08 M 18.59 M
30.) 49ers 25 486. 40 M 19.45 M
31.) Lions 21 505.04 M 24.04 M
32.) Raiders 20 513.21 M 25.66 M
The bottom quarter of the league all spent roughly twice as much per win as the Pats, and all of those clubs, save the Houston Texans, have made coaching and/or management changes in the past year (it also explains why some believe this is a make-or-break season for the Houston brass). The Raiders are, in these terms, three-times as poorly operated as the Patriots.
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Thanks, but this is a completely meaningless statistic.
Of course teams with the fewest wins pay the most per win. Because there are fewer wins by which to divide the amount of money spent.
This is like saying Califonia has fewer Governors per citizen than North Dakota. The difference has little/nothing to do with the numerator (money spent on players; sitting governors) and everything to do with the denominator (wins; citizen population).
September 10th, 2009 at 6:11 pm
Its crazy how the titans keep 10 or 11 dts but we only keep about 4
September 10th, 2009 at 6:12 pm
DT42 Says:
September 10th, 2009 at 6:05 pm
SnB
I hope Seymour NEVER plays for Oakland, he’s turning down millions because he doesn’t want to be on the team. You can not win with a player like that. I hate to say it but the Pats got over on us. When have we ever had Raiders that didn’t want to be with the team and still produced at a high level. Best case scenario is that this embarrasses the team into winning. I don’t think i’ve ever hated a player more than Seymour. He’s spitting in Al’s face, in the players faces and every one of the fans faces. This is the type of thing that destroys a season before it even starts. I was hoping for a 9 win season but we would be lucky to pull out 3 wins. The whole team was excited about this bum showing up, watch how they collapse when they hear about the 5 day letter.
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Bottom line. I don’t think the Raiders can win on defense without him.
The D-Line is bad because it has no RDE that plays the run and the NT is not a lane clogger.
I am not here to debate the weaknesses. The Raiders need Seymour THIS YEAR….even if its only 70% of him.
Our linebackers are weak and Trevor Scott has not proven an ability to play the run. Richardson is a question mrk
September 10th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
Ryan
Since the trade is not finalized isn’t it the Pats that have to send the 5 day letter? Maybe the teams are fighting over who has to send it. Because if the pats send it and 5 days go by they will loose the deal. If the Raiders send it the deal goes through. And that’s without showing up for a physical.
September 10th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
new post…
September 10th, 2009 at 6:50 pm
Why would Dakota be banned? He must have using alias’
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No, Dakota wouldn’t do that I think he just pushed it as far as he could. Talking to the Mod about hard far he thought we should be able to go.
FREE DAKOTA!!!
September 10th, 2009 at 7:26 pm
CABLE IS BEING DECEPTIVE JUST LK N THT SAINTS PRESEASON GM HE DIDNT RELEASE THE HORSES OR OPEN UP THE PLAYBOOK LEAVE SD N LIMBO THEY DNT KNW HOW WE GN CM @ THM I HOPE THOSE DTS STEP IT UP THOUGH,REAL TALK………LETS GO RAIDAZZZZ!!!!!
September 10th, 2009 at 7:28 pm
LT IS A WUSSYBOI,HE HAD HIS BEST CHANCE WHN HE STAYED ON THE SIDELINE N TH PLAYOFF GM @LEAST B A DECOY DWN ON THT GOALINE”CHUMP”