Joseph returns
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, September 10th, 2009 at 6:03 pm in Oakland Raiders.
The Raiders re-signed defensive tackle William Joseph, protecting themselves against the probability of Richard Seymour not joining the team before the season opener Monday night against the San Diego Chargers.
Will have more from the open locker room session as well as a post-practice update from coach Tom Cable, who isn’t scheduled to meet the media until 9:15 p.m. or later.
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September 10th, 2009 at 6:06 pm
How bout the timing of this latest County Fair Circus?
MNF Opening Nite vs. Chargers.
September 10th, 2009 at 6:07 pm
oh snap!
September 10th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
Some great tackling tonight. By both teams.
September 10th, 2009 at 6:09 pm
[...] [Raiders] Raiders Re-Sign DT William Joseph The Raiders re-signed defensive tackle William Joseph, protecting themselves against the probability of Richard Seymour not joining the team before the season opener Monday night against the San Diego Chargers. Joseph was originally re-signed by the Raiders last November after being cut in September of last year and finished the season with eight tackles. Source: Contra Costa Times [...]
September 10th, 2009 at 6:09 pm
This cant be good! I was really hoping Seymour would be suited up for the dolts.
September 10th, 2009 at 6:09 pm
will joseph is better then seymour anyway. oh snap.
September 10th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
Per PFT….
Raiders send Seymour letter
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on September 10, 2009 7:56 PM ET
According to Greg Papa, the voice of the Raiders, Oakland’s position on the muddled Richard Seymour matter is crystal clear: they want him.
To help get him, Papa reports that the Raiders have sent Seymour a letter “saying he had five days upon receipt to report to the Raiders and take a physical.”
It’s unclear when the Raiders sent the letter or what will happen if Seymour continues to fail to show up in Oakland. If the five days elapse, Oakland would have the right to place him on the roster/suspended.
In that scenario, the Raiders would retain his rights in 2010 at his 2009 salary, but he would miss the entire season.
Absolutely no one wants that to happen, so the nuclear option seems unlikely. Then again, there don’t seem to be any “compromise” alternatives. Seymour either has to show up or the Raiders won’t have much choice.
The letter does indicate, though, that Oakland is not interested in trying to get their first-round pick back. They want Seymour, even though the conditions of the trade require Seymour to report.
Perhaps that’s why the Patriots are so confident that the issue “is between [Seymour] and Oakland.”
The clock is ticking. Your move, Richard.
September 10th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
lol oh snap, thanks georgia,..we werent aware…lol
September 10th, 2009 at 6:12 pm
Im sure glad we got rid of collins!…he sucks oh snap!!
September 10th, 2009 at 6:12 pm
Watching the Steelers and Titans play defense against the run makes me wonder if the Raiders have ever considered that tactic.
September 10th, 2009 at 6:14 pm
Chris in NY Says:
September 10th, 2009 at 6:12 pm
Watching the Steelers and Titans play defense against the run makes me wonder if the Raiders have ever considered that tactic
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Philosophy. Outside in versus Inside Out
September 10th, 2009 at 6:14 pm
They are a lot stronger at the point of attack
September 10th, 2009 at 6:14 pm
Well, that pretty much does it.
AGain, I give Davis credit for trying. As for the run defense…those guys have to get some freekn pride man!
September 10th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
I think polomolu is better then huff…lol oh snap!
September 10th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
no pride, no poise. oh snap
September 10th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
Seymour will not miss a game check…imo.
There’s an old saying about the tail wagging the dog.
If Al sent the 5 day letter, it is to demonstrate that Seymour has no leverage contractually.
If He shows up He gets paid, if not He gets shelved for the season and loses 3.7 mil.
That is a pretty big gun held to one’s head.
The problem in all of this is that, imo, Al still believes that everyone wants to play for the Raiders.
At one time that may have been true, but again, imo no longer.
September 10th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
Good to see Joseph back. Not that he’s done much to get excited about in the past, but he was a beast in the preseason. Granted, it was against 2nd and 3rd stringers, but I’ll take a positive sign about our front 7 when I can get it.
September 10th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
The Oakland Raiders have signed former University of Wisconsin wide receiver Paul Hubbard to the practice squad.The Raiders tried out Hubbard today as well as former Arkansas defensive back Jamar Love. Hubbard was drafted in the sixth round last year by the Cleveland Browns and spent time on their practice squad. He’s a big, physical wideout at 6-foot-2, 225 pounds
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Wilson-Raiders-sign-wide-receiver-to-practice-squad.html
September 10th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
Raiders signed WR Paul Hubbard to the practice squad.
A sixth-round pick by the Browns last season, Hubbard is an exceptional athlete but incredibly raw. Al Davis just had to have him.
September 10th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
Just go ahead and give Polamalu the MVP trophy now.
Dude is ballin…
September 10th, 2009 at 6:19 pm
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 10th, 2009 at 6:14 pm
Chris in NY Says:
September 10th, 2009 at 6:12 pm
Watching the Steelers and Titans play defense against the run makes me wonder if the Raiders have ever considered that tactic
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Philosophy. Outside in versus Inside Out
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Interesting. But really I just meant that they actually bother to defend against the run.
September 10th, 2009 at 6:19 pm
Huge Game Monday Nite!
Are they psycologically up to it?
Can they overcome being laughed at again?
September 10th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
Chris in NY,
The Raiders are built to play in a dome. Speed, speed, speed
September 10th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
The Steelers O-Line is looking a bit suspect.
September 10th, 2009 at 6:21 pm
Damn, I might need those 3 points later. Got the Titans +6
September 10th, 2009 at 6:21 pm
Kell
Let’s hope so. The same old jabs are becoming tiresome.
September 10th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
Wonder if the players will use all this negative press as motivation. Everybody is dumping o them left and right. How they come out on monday will prove how much heart they have individually, and collectively…
September 10th, 2009 at 6:23 pm
KoolKell,
The offense will have to save the day.
I fear that San Diego is going to get its point.
Trevor Scott is too light….and Richardson give limited pass rush…the scheme is the same
The offense has to be the spark. Be nice to score 1st. Even if just a field goal
September 10th, 2009 at 6:24 pm
first game lst year we were up by 15, dischargers score 25 points in the forth qtr….
O needs to put up more points in the red zone……
D needs to man up…
September 10th, 2009 at 6:24 pm
Steelers O-line was weak last year.
September 10th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
nice blitz by pittsburg…..
September 10th, 2009 at 6:29 pm
Thec07 Says:
September 10th, 2009 at 6:24 pm
first game lst year we were up by 15, dischargers score 25 points in the forth qtr….
O needs to put up more points in the red zone……
D needs to man up…
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Yeah, the defense just has to play with pride. Their weakness is at the center of this Seymour drama.
I really am disappointed about how this Seymour thing is working out.
William Joseph is just another guy. Notice how he was still available
September 10th, 2009 at 6:32 pm
Later, dinner time…
September 10th, 2009 at 6:33 pm
well seymour is available too, just not to the raiders. oh snap.
September 10th, 2009 at 6:34 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams,
If they play with pride they will take all of this negative stuff and turn it into more energy to smash the chargers…..
September 10th, 2009 at 6:35 pm
The Chargers scored in the fourth quarter because we stopped blitzing.
September 10th, 2009 at 6:35 pm
the chargers won that game because the raiders dont play for 4 quarters. oh snap.
September 10th, 2009 at 6:37 pm
Hey Markie, If Seymour doesn’t show up his pay check is gonna be the middle of a doughnut.
It’s His move. Show up, get paid. No show, get shelved, no pay.
Pretty simple.
September 10th, 2009 at 6:38 pm
All I’m saying is if Seymour isn’t in the fold by Monday Shaughnessy or even Richardson should start over Scott as the base DE. Scott may show some flash as a pass-rush specialist in the short-term and may even develop into a solid 3-down DE in the long-term, but I have no trust in him to help stop the run right now.
September 10th, 2009 at 6:39 pm
Chris in NY…
Agreed about Scott as a RDE.
Situatioal rusher is all He is for now.
September 10th, 2009 at 6:39 pm
len it is simple, he would rather not get a check then be a raider,..havent you been followin this stuff this week?…its been 5 days since trade,…he doesnt want to be here and I dont blame him …oh snap.
September 10th, 2009 at 6:39 pm
*situational
September 10th, 2009 at 6:41 pm
Scott too light in the tail to play RDE
September 10th, 2009 at 6:42 pm
I know he’s being condemned for this, but I think that Al left the language “upon passing a physical” out of the contract on purpose. Seymour has no options now. He can’t go back to NE. He is Oakland Raider property now.
The guy is apparently greedy. He doesn’t want to miss a full year (or even two full years) of pay out of stubbornness. He’ll never play anywhere again if he sits out 2009 and 2010.
Seymour will accept the reality, and I figure he’ll do it fairly soon. It just doesn’t look like it will happen in time to help the Raiders stop LT.
September 10th, 2009 at 6:42 pm
Gage was gone.
September 10th, 2009 at 6:43 pm
Markie, You’re right, He dosen’t want 3.7 mil.
I’m pretty sure Al didn’t mail the LETTER on Sunday.
So…We’ll see.
September 10th, 2009 at 6:43 pm
len you are one of the diehards that will not believe that players dont want to play here…newsflash oh snap!!!…i hope seymour sits out all year and we lose draft pick!!!…that would be awesome!!! oh snap.
September 10th, 2009 at 6:44 pm
But it’s official. Seymour is a Raider. And there is still nothing New England can do about it.
Officially, welcome to the Raider Nation, Richard Seymour.
You are now one of my 54 most favorite professional football players.
September 10th, 2009 at 6:45 pm
Thec07 Says:
September 10th, 2009 at 6:41 pm
Scott too light in the tail to play RDE
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Mabey a year or 2 from now He can handle it, but as of now, no way.
September 10th, 2009 at 6:46 pm
If a team asked the team who holds the rights to a player for permission to talk to that player to see if a deal could be done, and received that permission, then it wouldn’t be tampering.
Someone said there was no room for compromise between Seymour and The Raiders, but I would like to propose a compromise. What if the Raiders did not agree not to franchise Seymour, but they did agree that if they could not come to a contract agreement with him after the season was over then they would agree to trade him, but they would have to get at least a top twenty first round pick for him, or else a 21-32 first round pick with a lower draft pick thrown in. It would be good for Seymour to know that he wouldn’t have to be stuck in Oakland if he wanted to leave after the season, and would also give the Raiders the chance to prove to him that this wouldn’t be such a bad place for him to be, and also give the Raiders some protection on the value of the draft pick the gave up for him. They could also give Seymour permission to seek a deal with the team of his choice after the season if it were to come to that.
September 10th, 2009 at 6:47 pm
seymour would be a hero in the nfl if he sits and refuses to be a raider, he would be my hero thats for sure,…maybe someday when all players refuse to play in oakland, well then maybe we will get the change we need. oh snap.
September 10th, 2009 at 6:47 pm
Markie, 3.7 MILLION DOLLARS. He will take it.
Ask His wife.
September 10th, 2009 at 6:48 pm
seymour is a punk. i hope he stays with the cheaters and we get a guy who wants to be here. ahole players like that dont deserve squat.
September 10th, 2009 at 6:53 pm
But, but sitting out this year, Seymour might still be able to get the 6 mill New England may owe him and still get the 3.7 mill from the Raiders or somebody else next year.
It’s like we had Seymour since January, Seymour gets injured and out for the season, we get his rights for the next two years, and it cost the Raiders 0 Million Dollars this year, and maybe 3.7 next year.
September 10th, 2009 at 6:55 pm
MAN THESE GUYS GET PAID ALL THIS MONEY 2 ACT LK WIMPS,WHY DO THE PEOPLE WITH ALL THE LUT B THEE DUMBEST
September 10th, 2009 at 6:55 pm
Biz Markie, it might make him your hero and also the hero of many Raider haters, but it would also cost him 3.7 million dollars this year and possibly tens of millions down the road that he might make in future years because his contract would still be in force for the future. If he could come to an agreement with The Raiders it could be win/win for both sides, but no agreement would be loose/loose.
September 10th, 2009 at 6:59 pm
IF THEY LET SEYMOUR GET AWAY WITH THIS CHILDISH ANTICS THE NFL WILL SUFFER GREATLY N THE FUTURE THE COMISH ALWAYS PUTTIN HIS 2CENTS N ON EVERYTHING ELSE HE NEEDS 2 STEP N N MEDIATE/REGULATE THIS SITUATION A TRADE IS A TRADE DONE DEAL
September 10th, 2009 at 7:01 pm
AL SHOULD OFFER HIM A NEW CONTRACT WITH INCENTIVES IN IT SO THT SEYMOUR DNT CM OVR N DOGG ON US,AL WAVE SUM LUTE N HIS FACIAL 4 MOTIVATION,WE ALL KNW THT U GOT IT MANE
September 10th, 2009 at 7:42 pm
5 day letter officially sent from the Raiders to Seymour
September 10th, 2009 at 10:52 pm
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