Nothing to Seymour here
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Friday, September 11th, 2009 at 5:35 pm in Oakland Raiders.
The Boston Herald is reporting the Raiders organiation has officially given defensive Richard Seymour five days to report, but most players sound as if they’re of a mind to let him make up his own mind rather than get involved and do a little recruiting.
The player with the biggest paycheck and the most stature on the roster has been waiting quietly for a Pro Bowl teammate to arrive to no avail.
“I haven’t reached out to him at all,” cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha said. “I don’t even know much of the situation. We come in hoping to see him here and then we’re promptly disappointed . . . I haven’t spoken to him.”
Nor has defensive end Greg Ellis, who figures adults should be treated like adults.
“We obviously would love to have him here, but I respect Richard. He’s married with a wife and kid,” Ellis said. “People so many times want to say, ‘Well, those athletes want money, money, money.’ But you have to understand we are people. We do have wives, and we do have kids, and he’s a guy who has both a wife and kids.
“They’re in school out on the East Coast, so to jump up in a matter of a week and get out here and be ready to play a whole season. Do you bring your wife and kids or you leave your wife and kids? So it’s a tough situation.”
Cable’s daily Seymour statement: “Until, you know, we have some facts on what is or isn’t going to happen, I’ve really felt like it’s not an issue until we have something concrete. So, with that in mind, it’s just been business as usual in terms of getting this team ready to play. I think that’s the right approach. I think we all are hoping that he’s going to show up. But the bottom line is that until we have something one way or the other, we have to stay the course with San Diego.”
The Raiders are obviously hoping the letter will at least jump-start a relationship with a player who has obviously been reluctant to go from the NFL’s winningest team over the last six years to the polar opposite, but has never said publicly why he hasn’t reported or if he’ll report at all.
And, to be clear, neither Seymour nor the Raiders has confirmed a letter or any contact at all other than Cable saying he spoke to the defensive lineman at least twice and that he “wanted to be a Raider.”
After the five days are up, the Raiders can place Seymour on a reserve/left squad list which would commit him to Oakland for another season at his 2009 salary or continue to wait in hopes of getting him aboard soon.
More Friday news and notes:
– Asomugha said he is getting comfortable with the split on his left had that will protect a chip fracture and that it shouldn’t affect him, even in run support.
“Tackling’s not an issue,” Asomugha said. “Wrapping up, I think if I’m trying to grab someone that could be an issue because someone’s getting away and you’re trying to tackle them that way. But aside from that I think I’m fine.”
– The Raiders will wear white throwback jerseys with silver numbers outlined in black.
“Everybody likes them,” Asomugha said. “It’s good to have a different look and we’re wearing white at home, so I guess that’ll be the second time in maybe 40 years or something, 30 years, so it’s good. ”
– Believe I said earlier Justin Fargas did not practice. He was officially listed as limited, but Cable said he did very little and didn’t sound enthusiastic about the possibility of him facing the Chargers.
It came as no surprise to Michael Bush that Darren McFadden was named as the starting running back by Cable Thursday.
“That’s perfectly fine with me. I pretty much kind of knew he was going to start anyway, just by taking reps in practice and who’s going first and things like that,” Bush said. “I wish the best of luck to him, getting the game going. If he slows down, I can come in there and pick it up and we can keep going.”
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September 11th, 2009 at 5:34 pm
COME ON SEYMOUR!!!
September 11th, 2009 at 5:35 pm
I just got back from HQ in Alameda. They know nothing.
September 11th, 2009 at 5:39 pm
Whats important is whether his new playbook and uniforms were dropped off along with the letter because he has some studying to do and he needs to try on that outfit to make sure he looks good before he takes that flight on Monday morning to play Monday afternoon.
September 11th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
I didn’t know mnf football could be blacked out this should be illegal
September 11th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
El Dirty – Money and steroids talk!
September 11th, 2009 at 5:41 pm
Here is the dialog between Bill B. and Al Davis:
BB: Hey, Al. Richard Seymour might be available.
AD: Are you here to take away my bedpan?
BB: No, Richard Seymour. Five time pro bowler.
AD: Do they give me Jello today? I like it when they put the fruit in there.
BB: We love him, but he is available. How about a 3rd rounder?
AD: I want my Jello first before the peas. How come my great grandchildren never visit anymore?
BB: A first rounder? OK, we will do that.
AD: They don’t let me have sharp objects anymore.
BB: It is OK. Just use a pencil.
September 11th, 2009 at 5:41 pm
Why is NFL.com reporting on their site that we’ve already placed him on the reserve/left list? What’s the deal Jerry?
September 11th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
I would like to pay Fargas’ hamstring for tightening up and ensuring that McFadden and Bush play in this game. Thank you.
September 11th, 2009 at 5:43 pm
In the wake of the Richard Seymour debacle, Al Davis hires a new cap-ologist and player personnel advisor to provide expertise in turning the Raiders around:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_the_Headless_Chicken
September 11th, 2009 at 5:45 pm
I had no idea the Raiders had a playbook. Assumed they drew up the plays in the dirt with a stick.
September 11th, 2009 at 5:47 pm
Pride_and_poise – Michael Lombardi must be confused because you cannot put Seymour on the reserve/left squad list until after the 5 days have passed and its been listed that Sept. 10th was he day the letter was sent so he couldn’t be placed on it until after the 15th.
http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/09/11/raiders-put-seymour-on-reserve-left-squad-list/
September 11th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
These comments are making me laugh. Very sarcastic, good stuff.
September 11th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
Michael – The least you could do is come up with new material with each posting instead of re-posting your old material. It was only funny the first time if funny at all. Come on man…use that creativity.
September 11th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
Pride_and_poise
People are getting the list confused. I believe, per National Football Post, that Seymour was placed on the EXEMPT/LEFT SQUAD LIST to allow the Raider to fill in with JOseph without cutting a player until this get all worked out.
Other venues are saying he was placed on the RESERVE/LEFT SQUAD LIST which according to NFL Spokesman this list means he CANNOT play for the rest of the year. Which did not happen.
September 11th, 2009 at 5:50 pm
There you have it. People working on these networks reporting on the NFL don’t even know what they are talking about
September 11th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
Once again everyone is laughing at the Raiders but to me, this seems to be a league problem not a Raider problem. Trades and the draft are the ways teams that are not good get good. If players will not report to the teams that draft or trade for them it undermines the entire league. Pretty soon the NFL will be like MLB where the teams with the most $$$ (or in this case most wins) will attract the best players and the same teams will be in the playoffs and Super Bowl year in and year out. That’s not good for the NFL. That’s not good at all.
September 11th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 11th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
SnB, 24
Why do Raider players not play up to their contracts?
Why do they seem to not give effort?
I believe because they are not emotionally invested in the project. All direction comes from the Excutive Suite, instead of the locker room.
Any thoughts?
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Part of the reason is that the Raiders miscast players for the scheme. deAngelo Hall was not a man2man corner…Gerard Warren is a 3-tech…Gibril Wilson is not a man2man safety guy….
The Raiders also overpay players and prop them up too much. Oh, that Tommy Kelly…he’s a playah I tellya….type stuff going on.
Coaching chaos….frequent coaching changes and demoralized coaches has killed this team..
Bringing in superstar skill players while the Lines are bad…like the Randy Moss deal…what good is a WR if the line can’t block…”hope that isn’t the case this year”
Give Al Davis an A for effort….an F for execution
September 11th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
Exempt/Left Squad vs Reserve/Left Squad ….how bout doing some real research Jerry?
September 11th, 2009 at 5:55 pm
Ok so it’s safe to assume Seymour will not play Monday night. I hope we get him in soon or we trade him to a team that wants him. Maybe getting a fourth or third round pick. LOL
September 11th, 2009 at 5:56 pm
The exemption is a temporary exception from what I can gather.
September 11th, 2009 at 5:56 pm
Seymour’s flack, Rodney Harrison, reports that Seymour is “horrified” by the idea of having to play for the Raiders.
None of this would have happened if Al Davis were alive.
September 11th, 2009 at 5:57 pm
It’s not a league problem, Oak. The teams have all the leverage. We’ve seen this how many times before? Best you can do is hit the players in their pockets, and it has worked 100% of the time to date.
September 11th, 2009 at 5:58 pm
Believe I said earlier Justin Fargas did not practice. He was officially listed as limited, but Cable said he did very little and didn’t sound enthusiastic about the possibility of him facing the Chargers.
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I still don’t get Cable’s absolute devotion to Justin Fargas. We could have Adrian Peterson and Michael Turner on the team at the same time and we would still platoon Fargas.
I love his attitude…heck I love Michael Huff’s attitude. But you gotta perform better than your teammates…and Fargas just doesn’t bring the playmaking and flexibility that DMAC and Bush does.
The only thing I hear about Fargas is “he gets yards between the 20’s”…..”he runs hard”…to me those sound like weak justifications. Other than blitz pickup…there is nothing he does better than Bush or DMAC. A RB that excels at blocking but is a below average runner doesn’t help you unless you plan to throw 40x a game!
I really hope Bush plays so well that he keeps Fargas on the bench. Makes it a no-brainer….although I thought he did that last yr against Tampa!
September 11th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
Jhill
Then explain that to Baltimore who gave the niners a draft pick I believe a 2nd round to the 9ers for Ownens.
September 11th, 2009 at 6:00 pm
Oakglenn Says:
September 11th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
Once again everyone is laughing at the Raiders but to me, this seems to be a league problem not a Raider problem. Trades and the draft are the ways teams that are not good get good
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The best way to get good is to develop your own talent at the key positions…win some games and show promise…and then sign that veteran….See Atlanta and Tony Gonzalez.
We should have traded for Seymour earlier…like after the New Orleans game. Would have given the team and Seymour more time to sort things out.
We knew the run defense was garbage 10 months ago…let alone 10 days ago!
September 11th, 2009 at 6:00 pm
New GM?
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn264/cigarshirts/DEPENDS.png
September 11th, 2009 at 6:00 pm
What’s that Ken?
Baltimore?
Owens?
49rs?
Como?
September 11th, 2009 at 6:04 pm
Can all 8 home games be blacked out? That would be helpful in getting that inane fart to sell the team.
September 11th, 2009 at 6:04 pm
Jhill
When T.O.’s agent screwed up on filing the paper work for him the 9ers traded him to Baltimore for a 2nd round pick. T.O. cried and the league stepped in and cancelled the deal and he went to Philly. Comprende!
September 11th, 2009 at 6:06 pm
The 49ers and Raiders could merge and have a decent taxi squad for a playoff team
September 11th, 2009 at 6:07 pm
If DMAC and Bush can have an OUTSTANDING night…that will be a victory in itself regardless of the score.
I really HOPE Bush can keep Fargas on the bench!
September 11th, 2009 at 6:07 pm
It’s hard to come up with new material, Shecky.
September 11th, 2009 at 6:07 pm
Michaels posts seem very similar to somebody else I’ve seen post
September 11th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
Ohhh …
I do remember that.
Not sure how that applies though. There was a loop hole that allowed him to become a free agent, right. Once he was awarded FA, he signed with philly.
September 11th, 2009 at 6:09 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 11th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
Part of the reason is that the Raiders miscast players for the scheme. deAngelo Hall was not a man2man corner…Gerard Warren is a 3-tech…Gibril Wilson is not a man2man safety guy….
The Raiders also overpay players and prop them up too much. Oh, that Tommy Kelly…he’s a playah I tellya….type stuff going on.
Coaching chaos….frequent coaching changes and demoralized coaches has killed this team..
Bringing in superstar skill players while the Lines are bad…like the Randy Moss deal…what good is a WR if the line can’t block…”hope that isn’t the case this year”
Give Al Davis an A for effort….an F for execution
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nicely done… you need to change your handle…
something like: The Truth
September 11th, 2009 at 6:09 pm
Even if McFadden and Bush run for 275 yards combined, Cable will probably start Fargas when hes healthy, I freakin swear.
September 11th, 2009 at 6:12 pm
This is a perfect article regarding the trade of T.O. to the Ravens which is similar to this.
September 11th, 2009 at 6:14 pm
http://philadelphia.about.com/cs/eaglesfreeagency/a/terrell_owens.htm
September 11th, 2009 at 6:14 pm
Hey Mikey your not funny try your material on the beer blog…http://www.ibabuzz.com/bottomsup/2009/09/11/weekend-update-911/
September 11th, 2009 at 6:14 pm
Its aggravating as heck waiting on this trade to conclude, but I really don’t think Seymour is ready to retire at age 29. So logic dictates that they are working on a deal.
The player either retires, play for the Raiders or te Raiders trade him. And I don’t think the Raiders want to trade him. Like GPapa says, they want Seymour.
September 11th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
It seems that biggest difference with T.O. was the fact that he was scheduled to become a free agent but didn’t realize he needed to file paperwork prior to a deadline that would allow him to become a free agent. He failed to do so so the 49ers maintained his rights and they tried to trade him.
September 11th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
24 Says:
September 11th, 2009 at 6:09 pm
Even if McFadden and Bush run for 275 yards combined, Cable will probably start Fargas when hes healthy, I freakin swear.
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Its Little League type stuff. DMAC and Bush need as many touches as possible. Let Fargas spell those two.
Honestly, I just don’t think Cable likes Michael Bush. If you put Fargas on the trade block…not too many takers…put Bush on the trade block and there would be several suitors (which still scares me).
Fargas is an example of overrating players. He’s a backup running back…Not a starter
September 11th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
football is a “what have you done for me lately” business…
McFadden and Bush get out there Monday night and kick some butt… Fargas may never see the field again…
so you want to ask how come Bush isn’t starting after running for 574 yards against Tampa???
that was last december… this is september…
what have you done for me lately???
September 11th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
Terrapin Says:
September 11th, 2009 at 6:14 pm
Its aggravating as heck waiting on this trade to conclude, but I really don’t think Seymour is ready to retire at age 29. So logic dictates that they are working on a deal.
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Yeah, but you want players that want to be here. Not this…oh well, play for the money guys…and that’s what this is devolving into.
Regardless, a 70% effort from Seymour probably eclipses anything we got now on that side of the line
September 11th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
In 2006, running back LaDainian Tomlinson scored 186 points. He outscored the entire Oakland Raiders team, which scored a total of 168 points.
September 11th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
it was TO’s agent that messed up…
i think “24″ has the rest of the story right…
September 11th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
whatever
September 11th, 2009 at 6:19 pm
574 ?
September 11th, 2009 at 6:19 pm
wow, did i just travel back in time???
September 11th, 2009 at 6:21 pm
He’s not playing on Monday Night. I have no idea why? Contract? Raiders? who knows? Apparently Al and Eugene Parker truly knows the situation. What I do know is that we need to beat the Chargers soooo many people are picking them to come out of AFC and get themselves a Ring. This is absolutely perfect timing for the Raiders to come out and play inspired football. The first time in years I am quite confident and focused about this game. The first time in a long time the players are actually JACKED UP about this game. The world is against the Raiders right now, I have never seen so much negative press about a team in my life regardless of the sport. MAN up time is on Sept.14th. It’s been said a lot on this blog I’m just adding my 2cents.
Lets Go Nation!!!!
September 11th, 2009 at 6:21 pm
In 2006, running back LaDainian Tomlinson scored 186 points. He outscored the entire Oakland Raiders team, which scored a total of 168 points.
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Yeah we all know how bad the Bed and Breakfast offense was. Tell us something we don’t know Mikey, like your what to give a 85yr old woman for her B day.
September 11th, 2009 at 6:21 pm
look, guys, i’m sorry…
i will try very hard… i promise…
to never answer a question before it is asked again…
September 11th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
Michael Says:
September 11th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
In 2006, running back LaDainian Tomlinson scored 186 points. He outscored the entire Oakland Raiders team, which scored a total of 168 points.
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Stop bringing up old Drama!
2006 was by far the worst year for the Raiders I saw that year and knew it would take us at least 2-3yrs to get close being back on track.
September 11th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
Terp,
Name 1 reason that “logic suggests” the team and Seymour are working on a deal. You have nothing to substanciate such a claim.
September 11th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
Raidersnsuede,
Why are you confident?
How do you know the Raiders are “jacked”?
September 11th, 2009 at 6:23 pm
Michael Says:
September 11th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
In 2006, running back LaDainian Tomlinson scored 186 points. He outscored the entire Oakland Raiders team, which scored a total of 168 points.
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foosball doesn’t count…
September 11th, 2009 at 6:24 pm
Watch the Raiders win Monday night, led by a steady diet of 2 parts McFadden and 1 part Bush … and Cable still give Fargas half the carries the rest of the season while McFadden gets the other half and Bush is left out of the mix.
September 11th, 2009 at 6:24 pm
If Cable wants to say…what have you done for me lately…how about Bush saving his job? Hows that? Its possible that Cable wouldn’t even be here if it weren’t for Bush destroying the Bucs and ousting Gruden. You KNOW Al Davis loved that. On top of that, it was the end of Monte Kiffin and we know how Al feels about his son. We can all thank Bush and Cable need to recognize. What did Fargas do for him? NOTHING!
September 11th, 2009 at 6:24 pm
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2009/0911092mugs1.html
See above for Raiders’ ticket holders Facebook pictures
September 11th, 2009 at 6:24 pm
Michael Says:
September 11th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
In 2006, running back LaDainian Tomlinson scored 186 points. He outscored the entire Oakland Raiders team, which scored a total of 168 points.
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We don’t speak of Art Shell Part Deux in this house, Michael!!!
September 11th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
Maybe RS won’t report because he wants to watch the Patriots game on Monday night instead of playing??
Just a thought.
September 11th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
Let’s see …
Get paid or not get paid ????
What would most logical people choose to do?
September 11th, 2009 at 6:26 pm
AirRade Says:
September 11th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
Raidersnsuede,
Why are you confident?
How do you know the Raiders are “jacked”?
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At least the interviews I have heard during the preseason games have led me to believe this. That and Hope I mean you just got to believe that they have to be Jacked for this game!
September 11th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
I think he wants to avoid getting his car stolen in the players parking lot.
Just win, baby.
September 11th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
Its not even a matter of get paid or not get paid…its play or don’t play. I can’t imagine a 29 year old not wanting to play at this stage of his career regardless. The money is only a bonus.
September 11th, 2009 at 6:28 pm
The team wants Seymours leadership but this doesn’t look like hes the kind of guy you want to have as a leader. The guy isn’t even showing up…leaders show up and tell everybody its going to be ok. Oh I cant go..I have a wife and kids, what will I do? Oh my gosh dude…grow a pair.
September 11th, 2009 at 6:28 pm
Suede,
Umm…ok. Why are you confident??
September 11th, 2009 at 6:29 pm
If any other team in the league had traded for Seymour he would be practicing at this very moment.
September 11th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
1. I have only known the Raiders, Player, and Agent to be this quite about things unless a contract is being negotiated or a deal is in the works. Its the way the Raiders operate – mum is the word. (see Burgess)
2. La Canfora reported that they were working on a deal on NFLN and NFL.com.
3. Name me 1 healthy NFL player in his prime that held out for an entire season without pay – That sht is just unheard of. You name me one and you immediately named a fool.
4. Every player in my recent memory that didn’t want to play for whomever got very loud about it, not very quiet (see TO and his agent, see Brandon Marshall, Cutler, et al).
Thats enough for you …if it aint’ …just go fly a kite!
September 11th, 2009 at 6:32 pm
I hope to god your right Terrapin. Maybe we can trade him for Crabtree
September 11th, 2009 at 6:33 pm
Don’t be ridiculous …
Seymour pulls the same stunt with over half the teams in the league. Any team that was not a playoff contender and he gets moved one week before the season starts when he thinks he’s getting an extension?
The guy is not reporting without major drama related to a contract.
September 11th, 2009 at 6:35 pm
RaiderNsuede Says:
September 11th, 2009 at 6:26 pm
AirRade Says:
September 11th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
Raidersnsuede,
Why are you confident?
How do you know the Raiders are “jacked”?
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At least the interviews I have heard during the preseason games have led me to believe this. That and Hope I mean you just got to believe that they have to be Jacked for this game!
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excuse me… if i may interrupt…
it’s the word “jacked”…
as Maddenraider can attest, “whacking” “choking” & “slapping” are all synonyms of “jacking”…
and these words tend to have negative conotations…
one must understand that in this instance “jacked” in intended in a positive manner…
i hope i have been of assistance in this matter…
September 11th, 2009 at 6:35 pm
ttp://www.theonion.com/content/video/americans_observing_9_11_by?utm_source=a-section
September 11th, 2009 at 6:35 pm
Listen, if the guy was really in contract negotiations with the Patriots and they pulled the plug on him …shipping him to another team …you tell me what would you want? A new deal right? No more of this working things out crap with good intentions. You want security. Period.
If you think differently, then good luck to ya.
September 11th, 2009 at 6:35 pm
Evidence that he and the Raiders are talking contract is…….Where??
September 11th, 2009 at 6:36 pm
I’m going to go drink some Guinness. Peace.
September 11th, 2009 at 6:37 pm
Jhill,
Keep your head buried in the sand buddy. Sucks out here in reality anyway.
September 11th, 2009 at 6:38 pm
Anybody else rolling to the
OAC on Monday night? If so do you know when they are opening the lot?
September 11th, 2009 at 6:38 pm
Whats the spread for Mon night?
September 11th, 2009 at 6:39 pm
Maybe the RDE (T. Scott or JR) will play inspired knowing that the Raiders are desperately trying to replace them
September 11th, 2009 at 6:40 pm
You wanted reasoning …you got it. Now you want hard evidence ….make up your mind peaches. No one has hard evidence – NO ONE! Only the Raiders, Seymour, and his Agent know whats going on.
And if history is any guide, its because something is in the works. That’s how the Raiders have historically done things.
September 11th, 2009 at 6:41 pm
9/14 10:15 ET San Diego -9.5 At Oakland 43
September 11th, 2009 at 6:43 pm
AirRade Says:
September 11th, 2009 at 6:28 pm
Suede,
Umm…ok. Why are you confident??
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Why am I confident?
Because I choose to always look at the glass half full than half empty. Nor am I the type of person nor fan who demeans and complains before seeing the outcome first. Even if we don’t win a Super Bowl, even if we don’t make the Playoffs what I have seen is the improvement of a football team on a whole. Run D aside of course. But who knows the season begins on Sept. 14 and all I can be is optimistic thats how I roll and thats how I always roll.
September 11th, 2009 at 6:43 pm
WTF?? Are his kids home schooled or something. Get out here and sort the rest of the crap out later. He just blew a $200k check while he ‘figures’ things out.
September 11th, 2009 at 6:43 pm
so much 4 a quiet offseason focusing on football and its fundamentals. no big signings,no in-house fighting,and positive attitude. then boom!cable beats hansen, raiders get romped vs. saints , then this. that 2 me is equivalent to a bad season. but we all know we haven’t played a game yet so we still have a chance. even losing to sd dosen’t end the season.THE PLAYERS HAVE TO SACK UP AND PLAY THE DAMN GAME THE WAY ITS SUPPOSED TO BE PLAYED. DON’T GET PUSHED AROUND BY THOSE PUNKS AGAIN.
September 11th, 2009 at 6:44 pm
Chad Johnson is another recent example of a player that wanted out. He got loud. Cincy said kiss our azs – you’re not going anywhere. And that was that.
All babies stop crying at some point.
September 11th, 2009 at 6:45 pm
Florida Pete Says:
September 11th, 2009 at 6:35 pm
RaiderNsuede Says:
September 11th, 2009 at 6:26 pm
AirRade Says:
September 11th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
Raidersnsuede,
Why are you confident?
How do you know the Raiders are “jacked”?
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At least the interviews I have heard during the preseason games have led me to believe this. That and Hope I mean you just got to believe that they have to be Jacked for this game!
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excuse me… if i may interrupt…
it’s the word “jacked”…
as Maddenraider can attest, “whacking” “choking” & “slapping” are all synonyms of “jacking”…
and these words tend to have negative conotations…
one must understand that in this instance “jacked” in intended in a positive manner…
i hope i have been of assistance in this matter…
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THanks Pete
September 11th, 2009 at 6:45 pm
I just hope the Raiders dont use Seymore as an excuse to suk as Monday.
September 11th, 2009 at 6:45 pm
Terrapin
Why even try to explain to haters the reason. Everyone knows it’s too quiet for a hold out. Things are getting worked out and the Raiders have to fit him under this years cap. This will take time. Also the agent is trying to talk with the niners about crabtree at the same time. I’m sure he is not happy about how hard he has to work this time of year.
September 11th, 2009 at 6:45 pm
9.5 pts at home? Ouch. Vegas sure shares Raider fans confidence. LOL
Terp,
I will wait untill you give a “historical” example of a player getting traded and not reporting till a new contract was done.
September 11th, 2009 at 6:46 pm
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September 11th, 2009 at 6:47 pm
Why send the 5 day letter if theyre in contract talks?
Reason: cause theyre not in contract talks.
September 11th, 2009 at 6:48 pm
can’t believe its the friday before the game. still pumped. got tuesday off for recovery.
September 11th, 2009 at 6:49 pm
Only Raider fan would deny that the complete dysfunction throughout the Raider franchise is playing a role in this ordeal.
September 11th, 2009 at 6:50 pm
AirRade Says:
September 11th, 2009 at 6:47 pm
Why send the 5 day letter if theyre in contract talks?
Reason: cause theyre not in contract talks.
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or…
it’s a notice that the clock is ticking and new contract or not… he needs to get in uniform…
September 11th, 2009 at 6:50 pm
Its just a matter of what kind of headache its gunna be Tuesday morning
September 11th, 2009 at 6:50 pm
It was pretty tacky by the Pats to make him available at the last minute, right before the opener, and the school year.
September 11th, 2009 at 6:52 pm
Man, you don’t even know if they did send him a letter. All this stuff is 3rd person and they can get away with it because the Raiders won’t even acknowledge anything.
Anyway, who give a sh… he’ll play because thats his only choice …that or retire.
September 11th, 2009 at 6:53 pm
i dont even want to hear the anouncers before the game. might just take it off mute at kick-off
September 11th, 2009 at 6:53 pm
Where do these cats come from?
So in your world, Seymour is doing what?
Sitting on his couch pouting?
Goes from player expecting a huge payday from Patriots to not wanting any $ from the Raiders? Would rather sit at home and get no $ instead of the $ he already thought was in the bank?
LMFAO!
Gimme a break!
September 11th, 2009 at 6:53 pm
The Ravens ended up getting their second round pick back from the Niners in that Owens deal. The NFL worked out an agreement where the Ravens got their second rounder back, and the Eagles traded DE Brandon Whiting and a 5th rounder to the Niners for the rights to Owens, whom was then signed to a 7 year deal.
An article on insidebayarea.com reported that a league spokesman stated it was up to the Raiders and Pats to work it out. From what little information is available, it appears that the language of the trade agreement will determine whether or not the Raiders can get their first rounder back from the Patriots.
I have a bad feeling this isnt going to end well for us. Javon Walker tried to retire and give back his 10 million dollar bonus, Al talked him out of it. He was handed a gift and refused it. Even if we CAN get the 1 rounder back from the Pats Im not sure Al would want it. I have a feeling, and I hope I am wrong, that Al would rather retain Seymours rights and find a way to make him play here, whether its by force or with a mega contract extension.
The guy doesnt want to play here, we shouldnt have to send a 5 day letter to get him to report. Sadly, I agree with AirRade, if he were traded to any other team he would be practicing by now. If we are able to void this trade and send him back to New England for that first rounder, that is the only logical move to make at this point. But Al always gets his man, whether they want to be here or not. Either way, I dont see this ending well for us. The only thing I can hope for is that this Seymour fiasco will somehow unite and motivate the team. Nobody wants to play for the Raiders, nobody believes in us, us against the world etc, etc. One can only hope.
September 11th, 2009 at 6:54 pm
Exactly KK,
The Pats are getting a big pass on how they handled this. THEY should’ve been the one’s on the phone with Seymour and his agent asking what teams he wanted to go to. Just like KC did for Gonzales. The fact that THEY skipped that process has nothing to do with us.
September 11th, 2009 at 6:54 pm
He still has to take the physical and from the looks of things he could fail from having a bruised mangina
September 11th, 2009 at 6:55 pm
#96, yeah. but hopefully they’ll be competitive.it’ll go a long ways.
September 11th, 2009 at 6:57 pm
JHill,
Are you denying the dysfunction in the organization is playing a part in this ordeal? Yes or No
September 11th, 2009 at 6:58 pm
richardson should start in place of scott
September 11th, 2009 at 6:59 pm
I just hope i can keep from getting too fueled up Sunday so as to enjoy the tailgate party Monday night
September 11th, 2009 at 7:00 pm
Richard Seymour is currently trying to find a way out of going to Oakland. That much is sure. The dude has maybe 3 years left. You really think he wants to spend them in a place like Oakland? Maybe if he was coming from the Lions or Browns but he is going from the Penthouse to the Outhouse. Who would want to do that?
September 11th, 2009 at 7:02 pm
Are u serious as hard as it is to maintain a career in the NFL, hell as hard as it is to just make a team you would assume that players would suit up and play because they are being paid an enormous amount of money to play a game. I hardly think Seymour doesn’t want to play for us I just believe he wants a HUGE contract extension because it’s his last one for sure. But apparently we just have to play the waiting game and find out whats really going on.
September 11th, 2009 at 7:04 pm
Richard Seymour has no leverage. He shows up and gets paid…or he can sit at home and get shelved without pay for 2009…and then come back in 2010 at his current salary with His rights OWNED by the Raiders.
Those are the FACTS. Any spin to the contrary is BS.
September 11th, 2009 at 7:04 pm
i give my props to all of the nation at oak coliseum come monday night. i’ll be in rancho cucamonga at my bro’s pad where across the street are supposed chokers’ fans. got to compose myself as well
September 11th, 2009 at 7:04 pm
http://www.theonion.com/content/video/americans_observing_9_11_by?utm_source=a-section
September 11th, 2009 at 7:05 pm
Oakglenn,you are correct.this is a problem for the league.you cannot have players under contract dictating they can or cannot be traded and dictating where they go.
to all of you whining about Fargas,weren’t you all sniveling in the practice games because Mac wasn’t starting?well,now that the games count,guess who is starting-Mac.do you honestly think Davis would draft a player at #4,get him a year experience under his belt,pay him an outrageous amount of money,see he is the player he thought he drafted when he did play, and then allow him to sit on the bench?get real people!
September 11th, 2009 at 7:05 pm
Dysfunction in the organization?
If by that you mean that because our team sucks, he is less inclined to move to that team, then of course. That’s a no brainer. Human nature of first to worst can’t be denied.
But to say that he would report to ANY other team is lunacy. Off the top of my head, he pulls the same thing with every team that drafted in the top 10.
How can you ignore the fact that he was in the middle of a contract extension with the Pats. Don’t you think he is sitting there like WTF just happened? You don’t think wifey had those $ spent? 4 kids? Cmon! He’s going to report. Feelings hurt or not. Right or wrong?
September 11th, 2009 at 7:05 pm
yeah len #110. al loves to retire players.
September 11th, 2009 at 7:06 pm
I think this is Belichick’s idea of a joke. He likes to bust balls and guess whose balls he’s busting? OURS!! Damn him and his three rings.
September 11th, 2009 at 7:07 pm
RS has all the money he’ll ever need. His pride and professionalism are worth more than money at this stage in his career. Besides, his knees are shot and he really cannot perform any longer at a high level.
September 11th, 2009 at 7:07 pm
Props to you as well L.A. Keep your head while holding it down for the Nation down south. Say what up to Craig & Dae Dae.
September 11th, 2009 at 7:09 pm
He may well report, as a last resort. Everything I hear is he wants a no franchise tag promise and Al told him to get f’d.
September 11th, 2009 at 7:09 pm
Looking for a big hit from Mike Mitchell on Monday. Sproles being the most likely recipient. Sending him in on a safety blitz to take a shot at Rivers would also be sweeeet.
September 11th, 2009 at 7:10 pm
To boost attendance, there will be a Bukkake show at halftime featuring the cheerleaders and various retired players. I heard Plunkett is coming back.
September 11th, 2009 at 7:10 pm
You are REEEEE CHING !!!!
His knees were so bad that he was the ONE guy they were talking extension with?
That makes a lot of sense.
The Raiders don’t call with that #1, he signs a contract that allows him to retire a Patriot. With no home town discounts because he is from SC, right?
September 11th, 2009 at 7:11 pm
well i’m out. recomend to all to just let it play out, go out have some fun and soon monday will be here. then we’ll see where we’re at. its not like we’re missing someone we’ve been counting on all year so let it rip. I SAY BUST AN OLD SCHOOL LATE HIT EARLY ON RIVERS JUST TO SET SOME TEMPO. alright who’s going to be the goon?
September 11th, 2009 at 7:11 pm
They were talking to him just to jerk him around.
September 11th, 2009 at 7:12 pm
Warning to all Raider fans viewing the game in high definition remember Norv Turner will be made up on Monday night. Prepare yourself accordingly
September 11th, 2009 at 7:13 pm
As a last resort …. lol.
Ok, well at least you admit that he’ll be in Silver and Black. Only a matter of time.
Everything you hear? PUH-LEEZE don’t start with the many articles who have quoted and spun Harrison’s comments.
September 11th, 2009 at 7:13 pm
raideredoutL.A. Says:
September 11th, 2009 at 7:05 pm
yeah len #110. al loves to retire players.
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If that is an attempt at sarcasm, you miss the point.
Seymour is ALL about money. He’s not retiring anytime soon.
He has ZERO options IF He wants to get paid. Period.
September 11th, 2009 at 7:13 pm
LOL … Yeah, ok Mikey!
They wer just playin’
September 11th, 2009 at 7:14 pm
AirRade Says:
September 11th, 2009 at 7:09 pm
He may well report, as a last resort. Everything I hear is he wants a no franchise tag promise and Al told him to get f’d.
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And if true, why would that be?
Because Seymour has NO leverage.
September 11th, 2009 at 7:14 pm
I would think someone with pride and professionalism would honor their contractual obligations?
What say you?
September 11th, 2009 at 7:14 pm
fo sho #118. peace.
September 11th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
Michael, that is just wrong. Funny but wrong…lol.
A bukkake show may even be enough to get Stabler to make an appearance.
September 11th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
Oakglenn Says:
September 11th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
Once again everyone is laughing at the Raiders but to me, this seems to be a league problem not a Raider problem. Trades and the draft are the ways teams that are not good get good. If players will not report to the teams that draft or trade for them it undermines the entire league. Pretty soon the NFL will be like MLB where the teams with the most $$$ (or in this case most wins) will attract the best players and the same teams will be in the playoffs and Super Bowl year in and year out. That’s not good for the NFL. That’s not good at all.
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POST OF THE YEAR!
Couldn’t agree more.
September 11th, 2009 at 7:17 pm
Hell, Jhill, every bit of info you have is heresay as well. No doubt Seymour is in the wrong, but it speaks to the joke of an organization that hes doing it.
September 11th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
oh snap!…he still aint here?…lol
September 11th, 2009 at 7:20 pm
Biz your back i just about to ask where u had been
September 11th, 2009 at 7:21 pm
Ok AirRade,
If it makes you feel better to think that, then you might just want to chuckle that to yourself. I wouldn’t really go public with your belief that Seymour would’ve reported to Jacksonville, Cleveland, Cincy, Detroit, SF, Seattle, St Louis, or any other non playoff team without the drama.
You really should just slow down on that. You’re not coming across well.
September 11th, 2009 at 7:21 pm
Just curious Air and Mike,
What’s your take on Jerry Jones?
September 11th, 2009 at 7:23 pm
Jhill,
Says you. The same guy who goes through life like a freakn ostrich and lives in a constant state of denial. What a dillusional irrational person says really dznt mean much.
September 11th, 2009 at 7:24 pm
LMAFAO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OakNinny, if they did know anything what gives you the idea they would tell you anything!
Too FKN funny!!!!!!!!! HAHAHA what a tool
# Oakglenn Says:
September 11th, 2009 at 5:35 pm
I just got back from HQ in Alameda. They know nothing.
September 11th, 2009 at 7:24 pm
I am pretty sure Eugene Parker has AD by the balls and is asking for a ridiculous amount of money and Al is trying not to cave in sayings 3 years 45 Million is what we gave Nnamdi should be good for you too.
Parker is saying I want 70 for 4 years or I will have Richard sit and make you look bad in doing so? Because I am a low life slime of the earth I can do it Al do NOT temp me (see Craptree)
This is what is the most logical explanation for what is happening now.
September 11th, 2009 at 7:25 pm
All we need is for Cable to get arrested before Monday nights game, and we’re off to another “interesting” season.
September 11th, 2009 at 7:26 pm
Okay enough about Seymour lets get ready for the big game, If he shows up great otherwise lets get pumped up to beat those big mouth Chargers. JR this is your biggest game to go 1-0 would be huge.
September 11th, 2009 at 7:26 pm
Now the next logical step if for AL to get out his overhead projector and show us how much money he offered the greediest agent of all times and what he expects us to pay him.
September 11th, 2009 at 7:27 pm
Jerry Jones is a younger less senile version of Al Davis.
September 11th, 2009 at 7:29 pm
the thing that bothers me the most is the silence.why the hell can’t seymore or his agent just make a damn statement so we know what the hell is going on here.just give us a reason.this is so stupid and frustrating.he wants to play or not,wants a new contract? give us something!
September 11th, 2009 at 7:29 pm
i keep tellin you guys that seymour will be playin monday night,..for new england,..thats a fact. oh snap.
September 11th, 2009 at 7:30 pm
Wrong its a Raider problem. You dont trade a 1st round pick for a player in the LAST year of his contract UNLESS you have an extension worked out. Any fool or GM with half a noodle knows this!
Dont use the league as an excuse for a stupid move that no other GM in the NFL would attempt other than AL!
Oakglenn Says:
September 11th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
Once again everyone is laughing at the Raiders but to me, this seems to be a league problem not a Raider problem.
September 11th, 2009 at 7:31 pm
Only Al Davis would make that trade. That is not debateable. No other owner is senile.
September 11th, 2009 at 7:33 pm
AirRade Says:
September 11th, 2009 at 7:23 pm
Jhill,
Says you. The same guy who goes through life like a freakn ostrich and lives in a constant state of denial. What a dillusional irrational person says really dznt mean much.
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So let me get this straight. If a team has a bad spell of 6 seasons (historicly bad) fans that show optimism with the current circumstance are delusional?
Sounds to me like you’re one of those that just like to whine.
If You don’t like it, move on.
Or stick around and try to bring soomething positive.
In my organization, whiners are weeded out and sent on their way.
September 11th, 2009 at 7:36 pm
I’m not sure what you are talking about Air …
Head in the sand? Dellusional? LOL!
Cmon, you can do better than that.
Facts are facts no matter how you try and spin them into your Raiders are a joke skit. Only team in the league he wouldn’t report to? U must be trying to be funny.
September 11th, 2009 at 7:37 pm
Hey genius ..
The issue is how many teams would sign Richard Seymore to top 5 money?
Obviously, the Pats were one of those team willing to do so, and so were the Raiders.
September 11th, 2009 at 7:37 pm
If the team was headed in the right direction with a leader that cared about nothing but winning I would be singing the praises.
September 11th, 2009 at 7:38 pm
So now Al doesn’t care about winning?
September 11th, 2009 at 7:38 pm
#116 – Nobody has all the money they’ll ever need. All you need to know about his “professionalism” is that this is the third time he’s signed a contract, then held out for more money while still under that contract. You’re probably right about his knees being shot – why else would the Pats sucker Al into taking his sorry butt. Hopefully this’ll be the last insult that will get The Raiders to stop the whole Charley Brown routine and stop taking crap from every hack fake journalist (yeah, you Rodney Harrison) and play some gd football and HIT SOMEBODY Monday.
September 11th, 2009 at 7:39 pm
Ostrich,
Holla back when you pull your head out. Till then, PEACE!
September 11th, 2009 at 7:39 pm
Obviously the Patriots werent, they showed him the door.
September 11th, 2009 at 7:40 pm
I think Michael is a dolts fan….
September 11th, 2009 at 7:40 pm
He cares more about doing things “his” way.
September 11th, 2009 at 7:40 pm
Moe: “HELLO. Moe’s Tavern.”
Bart: “I need to speak with someone there. Last name, Butz, first name, Seymour.”
Moe: “Hey, is there a Butz here? Seymour Butz? Hey, everybody, I wanna Seymour Butz!”
September 11th, 2009 at 7:41 pm
Yeah …
C Ya. LOL!
Trying coming a little stronger IF u come back.
September 11th, 2009 at 7:43 pm
The BOSTON media is reporting that they were close on a contract extension. Send your doubts and fact contradictors to them. I think I might beliee what they have to say over what your rolling with.
September 11th, 2009 at 7:43 pm
Anybody know where the chargers blog is so I can pull a michael and talk some #@!* there?
September 11th, 2009 at 7:44 pm
LOL at another visitor who says goodbye but just can’t leave …
September 11th, 2009 at 7:45 pm
Close??? Sweet. They were close.
September 11th, 2009 at 7:46 pm
So EVERY player that leaves Oakland a bashes the organization is lying?
September 11th, 2009 at 7:47 pm
Im no visitor there clown.
September 11th, 2009 at 7:47 pm
Look how silly you’re being …
They were in negotiations, close to a deal, but you’re saying …..
The Patriots were just playing? Jerking him around?
The same player with all the pride and professionalism that was the corner stone of the defense that brought them how many rings?
Now is this the team we should follow the example of as we come out our dysfunctional state?
September 11th, 2009 at 7:48 pm
There?
You are a visitor HERE.
Cmon, it’s not that hard.
September 11th, 2009 at 7:49 pm
Or are you someone that is now going by a different name? What did you call yourself before/
September 11th, 2009 at 7:50 pm
AirRade
Just visiting lol you have a funny looking red nose.
September 11th, 2009 at 7:51 pm
If you werent an idiot and could read you wouldnt be confused. Been around here for a while there, clown.
September 11th, 2009 at 7:51 pm
Anyone that attatches one bit of their self worth to anything beyond their own personal integrity is a fool.
The Raiders have sucked for 6 years…It’s WELL documented.
To complain, whine, and moan about AL and all the other stuff is pointless.
Al will retire the day before He takes His dirt nap.
Get used to it. Let it sink in. To complain about Al is like pissing into the wind.
My humble suggestion as a Raider fan, is to accept the reality, and look for the positive.
Otherwise, why bother?
Give and take about players, coaches, and the like is fun. It’s grounded in the HOPE of a better Raider future.
To those that want AL out now, all I can say is be carefull what You wish for.
It could actually be worse.
September 11th, 2009 at 7:52 pm
Looks like airfade misses the circus!
September 11th, 2009 at 7:52 pm
michael must be a homo
September 11th, 2009 at 7:53 pm
See all you guys who can make it at the game Monday. I will be the guy carrying the giant milk carton with Dick Seymours picture on the side
September 11th, 2009 at 7:53 pm
Jhill,
You keep saying the Pats were going to sign him again! How do you know that??
Most people think the Pats were going to sign Wilfork, so they traded Seymour due to the fact that they don’t want tosign him to a big contract when they still have green and Ty warren.
September 11th, 2009 at 7:55 pm
EVERY player?
See, there you go with the nonsense again.
Hall? What did you expect him to say? Yeah, I really sucked at CB, that’s why we lost.
Rhodes? Cut instead of a starting gig when he thought his close out performance was enough?
Moss? Valid comments from him. Norv and then the Art Shell staff? I’d want out too.
Sapp? Madd b/c we payed Kelly and not him.
I think you have 4 or 5 former players who have something bad to say. For every one of them, there are 20 guys who will say something different.
September 11th, 2009 at 7:57 pm
Hey Raider O,
There have been published reports that Seymour believed He was close to an extention.
Speculation is that His agent may have overplaye the reality to Seymour.
September 11th, 2009 at 7:57 pm
Oh, ok …
Sorry I don’t have time to try and figure out the multiple internet personalities some of you come up with, lol!
September 11th, 2009 at 7:59 pm
Yeah, O …
Those links that Jerry has been posting, as well as some of the BSPN links have talked about that.
September 11th, 2009 at 8:00 pm
The problem with player listening to players like Jordan, Moss, and Hall about The Raiders disfuntionality is that they were a big part of the problem while they were here.
September 11th, 2009 at 8:00 pm
jhill Says:
September 11th, 2009 at 7:57 pm
Oh, ok …
Sorry I don’t have time to try and figure out the multiple internet personalities some of you come up with, lol!
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Seriously.
September 11th, 2009 at 8:00 pm
Len,
I’m sick of this situation:
1- we wait till the last min to fix the Run D which has been a problem for 6+ years.
2- we trade for a player who’s in the last year of his contract without talking to him 1st.
3- we go agaist the Dischargers with this Drama in mind!!!!
September 11th, 2009 at 8:03 pm
Jhill,
Oh now were playing the excuse game. Sweet! Name one player who has left the last 5 years who has been complimentary towards the franchise.
Scweigert
Rhodes
Sapp
Moss
Hall
Gibril Wilson
Fabian and on and on. But they all are full of it, right? Yea, your not dillusional. LOL!
I will wait for your one
September 11th, 2009 at 8:03 pm
What the players, especially on defense, need to do is like John Madden used to say, “Don’t worry about the horse being blind. Just load the wagon.”
September 11th, 2009 at 8:09 pm
JHill,
What are you gonna say after the Chargers drop 30 on the Raiders and win by 3 TDs?
September 11th, 2009 at 8:10 pm
Instead fixing the problem, we added Drama!!
Can we please get this done!!!
If he doesn’t want to be here ( for whatever reason), then trade him.
I think GB, Browns, Dolphins, Jets, and a few other teams would be interested in him. IMO
September 11th, 2009 at 8:10 pm
Raider O Says:
September 11th, 2009 at 8:00 pm
Len,
I’m sick of this situation:
1- we wait till the last min to fix the Run D which has been a problem for 6+ years.
2- we trade for a player who’s in the last year of his contract without talking to him 1st.
3- we go agaist the Dischargers with this Drama in mind!!!!
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I hear ya O.
It’s not an ideal circumstance.
I’m still curious about the offense and how McFadden will be used, as well as all of the other youngsters.
I’m looking for a Team that will compete and hopefully win. Warts and all.
September 11th, 2009 at 8:12 pm
Who are you?
Could you please identify yourself we know who we are talking to?
Multiple internet personality guys calling other dellusional is comical.
Again, tell us something we don’t know. The team has been awful the last 6 years. Next thing you know, you’ll be in here trying to explain to us that the shy is blue.
And gawd dammit, I thought you were leaving a half hour ago?
September 11th, 2009 at 8:12 pm
Air,
What about Rod Woodson, Eric Allen, Garner, and Romo?!
September 11th, 2009 at 8:13 pm
I will say that it was bad calls by the refs that caused it.
September 11th, 2009 at 8:13 pm
Anyone else excited to see Lane “All in” Kiffin tomorrow? 1:00 UCLA and TENN, not much of a Bruin fan myself, but I hope they destroy the Vols.
Should be interesting regardless.
September 11th, 2009 at 8:14 pm
Bingo! Jhill is done. Startn to focus on my screen name instead of actual football. Sure sign hes beatn like a drum. Took a little longer than usual but its done none the less.
September 11th, 2009 at 8:15 pm
AirRade Says:
September 11th, 2009 at 8:14 pm
Bingo! Jhill is done. Startn to focus on my screen name instead of actual football. Sure sign hes beatn like a drum. Took a little longer than usual but its done none the less.
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Shoe fits?
September 11th, 2009 at 8:15 pm
Pull a Brady on Rivers knee and even if we lose we win!
September 11th, 2009 at 8:15 pm
If the Chargers drop 30 on us and win by 3 TDs I will be in here saying I told you so.
I told you Trevor Scott was not the answer at RDE.
I told you Cable shouldn’t have been running that I right, I up the middle, pass to Miller vanilla stuff.
And I told you that we should’ve brought in Cowher or Gruden.
I thought you said you’ve been around here before. You should know that. I don’t change my name and takes around. I don’t suffer from MIP disorder.
September 11th, 2009 at 8:17 pm
Len,
I like our offense and the Talent we have there. They are young, talented, and I think they have the potential to be great. We still need to add talent to the Oline. If you look at our offense you can see the direction we were taking from 3 years ago. QB, TE, 2 RBs, LT, and a few WRs.
I’m not so sure we are doing the same on Defense. It seems that we don’t have a plan on Defense!!!! Other than drafting fast DBs!!! lol
September 11th, 2009 at 8:17 pm
RaiderO,
Heard Romo pimpn his nutrition web site on a radio station and he spoke on the dysfunction of the organization and how the players hold all the power. Even had a story or two about coaches wanting to suspend players and Al nixing it. So take him off your list. Have the other guys been complimentary? Havent heard it.
September 11th, 2009 at 8:17 pm
Look at you …
focusing on the fact that you pretty much just admitted that you are a troll?
Yeah, if you call laughing at you “focusing”.
What’s the point of talking football with your AFTER your admission.
September 11th, 2009 at 8:18 pm
I think the Raiders will have a few Offensive tricks up their sleeve on Monday.
Mcfadden and Bush hardly played in the Pre Season.
Very Vanilla.
Monday they will be off the leash.
September 11th, 2009 at 8:19 pm
And if, and it is a big if, but if The Raiders play a determine game and somehow pull of a win will you be in here saying you were wrong?
September 11th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
I will call you on that one AirRade u r dead wrong on Romo
September 11th, 2009 at 8:21 pm
Air,
It’s really hard to compliment a losing team, but they try!
September 11th, 2009 at 8:21 pm
Did Dick Seymour show yet?…
oh snap.
September 11th, 2009 at 8:21 pm
Not a troll, other name and IP got banned, so I did what I needed to do.
September 11th, 2009 at 8:22 pm
I’d be MORE than happy to come in here Tuesday morning and be totally wrong!
September 11th, 2009 at 8:22 pm
Call me on what? He said it, flat out.
September 11th, 2009 at 8:23 pm
Heard Romo dropping his pants for the team. Could have something to do with his postgame gig
September 11th, 2009 at 8:23 pm
… comfortable with the split on his left had …
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missing the n key?
September 11th, 2009 at 8:24 pm
AirRade Says:
September 11th, 2009 at 8:21 pm
Not a troll, other name and IP got banned, so I did what I needed to do.
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Obsess much?
September 11th, 2009 at 8:25 pm
You give yourself WAY too much credit to think that you are known just by the sarcastic stuff you say. In case you haven’t noticed, there has been a spike in “visitor” activity.
I would venture to say that if you had relevant football talk, you wouldn’t be banned. Chances are you fell in love with your own comedy routine and dellusionally thought others felt the same way. Another one of your many reality checks, lol!
September 11th, 2009 at 8:26 pm
I agree. Our run offense was “very Vanilla”, and we focused more on our passing game.
We needs to do that for JR & the WRs.
2 RBs that can can run well, a Good TE, a fast solid group of WR, and a QB who doesn’t throw a lot of INTs. If the oline plays well, then we can do great things on offense this year.
September 11th, 2009 at 8:26 pm
Len,
Im still laughing at your last “unleashed” post.
September 11th, 2009 at 8:28 pm
I know Scott is too light, but if The Raiders are staying with him in spite of the pre-season then I hope that they have something up their sleeve that they have been holding back. I don’t know why Richardson can’t play the run better. He has the size and strength for it.
September 11th, 2009 at 8:28 pm
AirRade Says:
September 11th, 2009 at 8:26 pm
Len,
Im still laughing at your last “unleashed” post.
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Glad to be of service. Laughter IS the best medicine.
September 11th, 2009 at 8:28 pm
LMAO @ 206 & 211!!
September 11th, 2009 at 8:28 pm
Right Len,
These cats love this so much that they get banned and find a way to scratch and claw to get back in?
Non Raider fans my arse!
September 11th, 2009 at 8:30 pm
I hope that is a helluva sleeve kool aid …
I was really thinking we had something in Scott, but boy were those preseason games disappointing!
I mean, had there EVER been a more discouraging performance?
September 11th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
Oh snap,..the truth is,..well we are Raiduf fans, so we have agreed to continue on in this abusive relationship,…we take it,…yes we are being abused but we cannot file for divorce, or even a trial seperation….after the slaughter monday night, we will all hate the Raiduhs, but oh snap by wednesday we will all be back with our abusers telling them how much we love them and will they please kill KC for us?…please honey?…for me?…oh snap….as the world turns…
September 11th, 2009 at 8:33 pm
so is Biz and Air the same person?
Someone help out the old guy here …
If I respond to one, does that answer apply to all the MIPs?
September 11th, 2009 at 8:34 pm
are*
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before the spell check bloggers get after me.
September 11th, 2009 at 8:37 pm
jhill Says:
September 11th, 2009 at 8:28 pm
Right Len,
These cats love this so much that they get banned and find a way to scratch and claw to get back in?
Non Raider fans my arse!
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Hey jhill,
I don’t really know what “they are” other than negative thinkers.
Just my opinion, but I’ve always found more success in life by looking for the positive that comes from any “bad” experience.
I’m not happy about watching our team get it’s ass kicked regularly, but I’m loyal and hopefull.
Mabey that’s just old fashioned. I don’t know.
September 11th, 2009 at 8:37 pm
Oh Snap,
Can we get a trial seperation from you?? Oh Snap!
September 11th, 2009 at 8:38 pm
The preseason was disappointing, but in spite of that you really don’t know anything until they start playing games that count. But the preseason combine with the fact that they couldn’t stop the run for the last six year doesn’t make me real confident in the run defense, but still until they play in the regular season I will reserve judgement.
September 11th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
If you want to win, start Bryant at defensive end.
September 11th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
I keep reading comments concerning the Raiders or Mr Davis not having dne their homework and making sure contract was negotiated pior to the trade.
Well if you really think about it ther wasn’t much they could do. The Pat’s ownd the rights to Seymour any contact prior to an approved trade would have been tampering. Also the only way to do that is have NE negotiate the deal and then trade him which they tried to do. Only it seems as though that fell through with the limited time they to make the deal. Also thi seems to involve a little more than money. What that is only the principle parties know for sure.
Major point is Seymour is a Raider………..period he has to come to terms with that one way or the other. No one can make me believe that he will forfeit one dollar of that 4 million $ contract so I say he will be here before that happens. So stay tuned.
September 11th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
Raider O Says:
September 11th, 2009 at 8:37 pm
Oh Snap,
Can we get a trial seperation from you?? Oh Snap!
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Raider O…
LOLOLOLOLOL
September 11th, 2009 at 8:43 pm
Seymour isnt a Raider, Priest. You dont know your arse from a hole in the wall.
September 11th, 2009 at 8:45 pm
priesttj you are incorrect!!!…the raiduhs could have asked permission from the pats to look into a trade with seymour,..then with permission they talk to seymours agent to feel them out,…but Al just figures its all players dreams to be raiduhs,…so there priesttj,..you suck, you dont know jack squat,..so stfu!!! oh snap.
September 11th, 2009 at 8:45 pm
what’s up with the “o snap business”?
September 11th, 2009 at 8:45 pm
Preist, 100% correct on Seymour and the $$$.
He may be stubborn at this point (and mabey not), but He WILL collect His money.
The Raiders have all of the leverage regarding this seasons money, and 2010 if they put Him on the shelf.
His options for not reporting are Check and Mate.
September 11th, 2009 at 8:46 pm
I hope you are right BHP! We need him. The players are asking for him. TH wants to call him!!!
He needs to be a pro. He wants more money. That’s ok and it’s part of the game, but not like this.
September 11th, 2009 at 8:46 pm
Oh snap you you fans all go to home games? oh snap lets all party together!
September 11th, 2009 at 8:47 pm
Len,
Wheres retirement fit into your lil chess game?
September 11th, 2009 at 8:47 pm
I think Sey’s paycheck would be 233 thousand? for the first week, I personally think that he will let that go, I don’t think he’s playin… i wish he was.
F’em.
September 11th, 2009 at 8:47 pm
Oh snap espn say the union is reviewing that letter,..wtf and oh snap!
September 11th, 2009 at 8:47 pm
AirRade Says:
September 11th, 2009 at 8:43 pm
Seymour isnt a Raider, Priest. You dont know your arse from a hole in the wall.
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At this point, as far as the NFL is concerened, He is a Raider.
Look it up.
September 11th, 2009 at 8:48 pm
The trade is not official until the player takes a physical. Period. YOU look THAT up, boy.
September 11th, 2009 at 8:48 pm
Oh heck, seymour wont ever suit up for da raiduhs,..nope,..never,..rod harrison said so on his tweet. oh snap that blows….i like joseph though.
September 11th, 2009 at 8:50 pm
He is considered a raider right now but if he doesn’t show up and pass a fiz, he goes back to NE.
And that’s a fact jack.
September 11th, 2009 at 8:52 pm
LOL! No, hawk its not. Physical must be taken before trade is official. Period. End of conversation. Look it up.
September 11th, 2009 at 8:52 pm
AirRade Says:
September 11th, 2009 at 8:47 pm
Len,
Wheres retirement fit into your lil chess game?
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Ya you’re right. He will walk away from 3.7 million in 2009 after having been shelved, and again in 2010.
Genius.
This is your problem airbag, you cling to irrational logic.
September 11th, 2009 at 8:53 pm
Did I say he would? No. Did you say he didnt have any options but to report? Yep.
September 11th, 2009 at 8:54 pm
Howz it goin NATION???
Can I still say F the Patriots??
September 11th, 2009 at 8:55 pm
AirRade Says:
September 11th, 2009 at 8:48 pm
The trade is not official until the player takes a physical. Period. YOU look THAT up, boy.
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Airbag, The Raiders sent Him “THE LETTER”
That’s all You should need to know.
Big Hammer. No Leverage. No Report. No Pay. AT RAIDERS discretion.
September 11th, 2009 at 8:56 pm
O, long time no see brethran?? howz school??
September 11th, 2009 at 8:56 pm
Biz~ there is no “rod harrison” on twitter. your full of beans.
September 11th, 2009 at 8:56 pm
Rodney Harrison said on his twitter that Seymour told him he got the letter. Didnt say anything about never reporting.
September 11th, 2009 at 8:57 pm
uless theres an extention worked out is there any doubt we need a real GM. Didn’t our downward spiral coinside with Bruce Allens departure. Or am I mistaken?
September 11th, 2009 at 8:58 pm
oh snap,…USC-OHIO ST tomorrow night!!! awesome game!…
September 11th, 2009 at 8:59 pm
radraider Says:
September 11th, 2009 at 8:57 pm
uless theres an extention worked out is there any doubt we need a real GM. Didn’t our downward spiral coinside with Bruce Allens departure. Or am I mistaken?
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Gruden 1st, then the following year Allen.
Keep in mind though that Allen acted as a go between, who’s specialty was in contracts.
He was not a personnell man.
September 11th, 2009 at 9:00 pm
the trade is official, the nfl controls that, the paperworks moved through the offices. If he don’t show for the fiz he goes back, as long as the contract says so. He is a raider right now.
September 11th, 2009 at 9:00 pm
total access posted rod harrisons tweet on their show yesterday,…said dick seymour wont ever suit up for da raiduhs,..period,..will sit in 2009 rather then be a raiduh,..rod harrison said that,..oh snap kiss my butt all you guys who doubt me.
September 11th, 2009 at 9:01 pm
Raiders on ESPN here on the Best Coast…
September 11th, 2009 at 9:01 pm
rodneyh37, I found him.
September 11th, 2009 at 9:01 pm
Can he play without a physical? No.
If he passes hes a Raider
If he fails hes a Patriot
No physical no trade.
September 11th, 2009 at 9:02 pm
hawk you say hes a raider now?…oh ya?…where?…you heard he was at practice?…is he in oaklnad?…oh snap heck no,..hawk you suck and only dream hes a raiduh,..hes not,…hes in boston still,..you jack hole.
September 11th, 2009 at 9:02 pm
My point is there is no wy that the Raiers could’ve talked directly to Seymour or his agent without retribution. This protcol for the NFL. Just in case an agreement cannot be reached between both clubs. Then the player woul be asking for what the perspective club would offer and that is not fair.
So as a result to sy that Raiders didn’t do their due diligence because there is just only so much that they could do without tampering…………period
So just keep your shirt on he’ll be here trust me. And he wll play great.
September 11th, 2009 at 9:04 pm
priesttj,..you keep missing the point,..al davis could have asked for permission from kraft to see if hes available in a trade,..then when bobby said hes available go ahead and talk to him and see ig you guys can work out a deal, if you can we will trade him to you,..priesttj you are an idiot.
September 11th, 2009 at 9:05 pm
Trust you? Why? You dont know sheet.
September 11th, 2009 at 9:06 pm
trust you priesttj?…lol oh snap
September 11th, 2009 at 9:06 pm
Al could have put a “report by date” clause or any number of things in the trade language to protect himself.
September 11th, 2009 at 9:07 pm
AirRade Says:
September 11th, 2009 at 9:01 pm
Can he play without a physical? No.
If he passes hes a Raider
If he fails hes a Patriot
No physical no trade.
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The distinction is that as of now He IS Raider Property.
That is why they have the power to send “THE LETTER”
If He somehow miraculously fails the physical then THE RAIDERS send Him back.
They Have All The Leverage.
September 11th, 2009 at 9:08 pm
SO then you just dont do the deal! YOU dont trade a first round pick for a 1 year player….VERY simple even YOU should be able to wrap your brain around this one!
priesttj Says:
September 11th, 2009 at 9:02 pm
My point is there is no wy that the Raiers could’ve talked directly to Seymour or his agent without retribution.
September 11th, 2009 at 9:09 pm
They have all the leverage yet the dude aint here and aint playn Monday. Hmm….. Lots of leverage indeed. LOL!!
September 11th, 2009 at 9:09 pm
Priest,
Yep.
Seymour is gonna show up, and He will get Paid.
Dude is NOT walking away from 3.7 and mabey more if an extension is worked out.
Simple.
September 11th, 2009 at 9:10 pm
I don’t get why this is so hard for some to understand, go to the raiders.com and look on their roster guys.
I’ll save you some time, he is on there.
What did you do Biz get kicked out under your “other name” and now you have to type o snap after every sentence to stay incognito?
September 11th, 2009 at 9:10 pm
Len and Priest,
Where is he then? He aint here. Not playn on Monday. Wheres he at? You all said “he WILL be here”.
September 11th, 2009 at 9:10 pm
AirRade Says:
September 11th, 2009 at 9:09 pm
They have all the leverage yet the dude aint here and aint playn Monday. Hmm….. Lots of leverage indeed. LOL!!
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When the checks don’t show upon the 1st and the 15th Leverage come home to roost.
Figure it out Airbag.
September 11th, 2009 at 9:10 pm
priesttj will never ever say anything the raiduhs do are stupid,..he just cant,…completely brainwashed.
September 11th, 2009 at 9:13 pm
Len, your ok with having Seymour for 15 games at the cost of a first round draft pick?
Ok, not only is the organization pitiful but so are a few of the fans. Its becoming embarrassing to be a Raider fan.
September 11th, 2009 at 9:13 pm
I believe the Raiders did send him a letter. GPapa knew it, said it, then somebody came down on him.
Adam Sch. has twitted it (triple confirmed it supposedly) and Rodney Harrison says he spoke with Seymour and he got it.
Seymour has until Tuesday to report – welcome to the Silver & Black.
(And if you don’t sign you’ll be franchised of 2yrs until you are about to turn 33years old and out the window goes that monster contract).
September 11th, 2009 at 9:13 pm
What happens if he fails a physical Hawk?
September 11th, 2009 at 9:14 pm
And its amazing how a unsubstantiated rumor site like PFT can do more research than our very own beat writer.
PFT is also confused by the reserve/left squad list and what everyone is reporting. In other words, its likely they all are getting it wrong and Seymour is on the exempt/left squad list.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/09/11/report-raiders-place-seymour-on-reserveleft-club-list/
September 11th, 2009 at 9:15 pm
Sisterbrown
ever heard of the franchise tag. 3 years for his service.
September 11th, 2009 at 9:15 pm
I would love to have Seymour here…but take a look at what we ahve…
We ran behind Luke Lawton all last year…
With Double Ought (Oren Oneal) in the line up….sky is the limit.
We have a run game that is #1…this equals ball control.
We have a phenomenal #1 and #2 CBs…
Tyvon Branch is our Strong Safety??? Sweet…the man was stellar until hurt…Bring it!
Morrison led the team in tacklesin 2008? Bring it baby…
Our LT is bad like a LL Cool J 1980s album…Screw Kiffin.
Schillens like a villian! This young man about to make a name…
and so on….
Raiders have many great positives…what’s your fave five?
September 11th, 2009 at 9:15 pm
Terp,
You said earlier they didnt send the letter. Now they did. Hmmmm…cool man.
September 11th, 2009 at 9:18 pm
Mistabrown Says:
September 11th, 2009 at 9:13 pm
Len, your ok with having Seymour for 15 games at the cost of a first round draft pick?
Ok, not only is the organization pitiful but so are a few of the fans. Its becoming embarrassing to be a Raider fan.
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Where did I ever say that?
Your embarrased for Me? LOL
Seymour has ZERO leverage, how the Raiders handle His contract is their business.
My prefference is that He sign an extension.
If not, it is what it is.
I love how some want to “project” the future outcome of a trade before all the facts have become known.
Whine on Mista.
The End. (I stole that from You)
September 11th, 2009 at 9:18 pm
He is NOT going to go for 2 years of franchise tags on top of this! He doesnt even want to play here 1 year! All he has to do is not show up now & force AL to trade him or release him.
Yeah I heard of the franchise tag..
September 11th, 2009 at 9:18 pm
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September 11th, 2009 at 9:19 pm
Nah …I said you don’t know if they did or didnt. But I read around some more and stumbled across Adam Sch.’s tweets and Harrison’s tweets.
Just a warning to everyone: DO NOT GO TO HARRISON’S TWITTER PAGE! That sht almost made me sick!!!!
September 11th, 2009 at 9:19 pm
I damn near wanted to kill somebody viewing his page.
But you see Air …you didn’t provide anything …I basically have to prove you are right for you ..go figure
September 11th, 2009 at 9:21 pm
AirRade Says:
September 11th, 2009 at 9:13 pm
What happens if he fails a physical Hawk?
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He goes back to the Patsies.
September 11th, 2009 at 9:21 pm
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September 11th, 2009 at 9:21 pm
Yeah lets have a pissed off disgruntled player that doesnt want to be here for 3 years…thats great for the locker room, moral, and chemistry!
Only in Oakland..
September 11th, 2009 at 9:22 pm
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September 11th, 2009 at 9:22 pm
Mistabrown Says:
September 11th, 2009 at 9:18 pm
He is NOT going to go for 2 years of franchise tags on top of this! He doesnt even want to play here 1 year! All he has to do is not show up now & force AL to trade him or release him.
Yeah I heard of the franchise tag..
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Mista, The Raiders sent “THE LETTER”.
They can put Him on a shelf for the 2009 season WITHOUT PAY.
Guess what in 2010 the Raiders OWN HIS CONTRACTUAL RIGHTS at 3.7 millon for the 2010 season.
The Dude has ZERO leverage.
September 11th, 2009 at 9:23 pm
You really want a key player on your defense to be in exile for 3 years!
Nothing like a poisoned locker room..
Coach em up Cable!!!
Only in Oakland..
September 11th, 2009 at 9:23 pm
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September 11th, 2009 at 9:23 pm
Short term Seymour had leverage until the 5 day letter was sent or going to be sent. Now there is no more leverage for him he held out now he will have to show up to collect a pay check. He will be here and take the physical. That is what we know. That is all we know at the moment. He made his point by ensuring he misses the first game.
September 11th, 2009 at 9:24 pm
I don’t care. As long as the guy produces. Thats the bottom line. If he doesn’t they’ll get rid of him.
September 11th, 2009 at 9:26 pm
Great Len ! Sounds good!
Lets shelve him for 2009! Who cares about that 2011 1st round pick out the window!
And in 2010 we can trade him for a 4th rounder after he has been on his couch for a year, sounds good Len!
Neither the team or player has leverage its a no win situation for both at this point.
September 11th, 2009 at 9:27 pm
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September 11th, 2009 at 9:30 pm
You guys think Seymour is going to play his a$$ off for a team he doesnt want to play for, and for 2 years with franchise tags….lmao
Do you guys live in Disneyland ?
September 11th, 2009 at 9:31 pm
ESPN NEWS JUST REPORTED THAT SEYMOUR WILL REPORT AND PLAY MONDAY NIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 11th, 2009 at 9:32 pm
Mista – Did you see TScott play? …I mean comon’ dude …almost anything Seymour does would be better than that.
No offense to Scott. I sure hope he gets better, but as of now from what I saw he’s a major liability.
September 11th, 2009 at 9:32 pm
The only way this works out is if they work an extension.
The end.
September 11th, 2009 at 9:35 pm
did the Raiders use any bunch formations in the pre season, Seymore will or wont be here but our OC Cable will and thats scary. he needs more imagination in his play calling. Pitt used it pretty efectively against Tenn. Walker or Murphy should be able to be used the same way as moss? Hopefully they were just holding back in pre-season.
September 11th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
Please turn on ESPN News if you have it. Reported that Seymour will play Monday night against Chargers.
September 11th, 2009 at 9:37 pm
When he misses his first payceck then come and talk to me. $200,000 is $200,000 once he forfeits tha kind of money I’ll beliee anything. But until then he’s coming and he’s playing…………..period
All the rest is just talk……..a physical are you kidding me?? taht phys. is done by the Raiders and hat do you think they will say?? huh? smart guy?? He’sbeen through traning camp and performed ad he’s been cleared by the Pat’s Doctor to for full contact.
And you’re talking about not passing a phys. that’ll be performed by the Raiders doctor?? Are you some kind of dimwit??
Seymour is a Raider………period
September 11th, 2009 at 9:37 pm
He aint lyin’
September 11th, 2009 at 9:38 pm
Adam S. Reporting it now…
September 11th, 2009 at 9:39 pm
Mista
That is the most intelligent thing you have said. I agree with you on that. I think it’s getting worked out, but they need him asap. He wants the extension, so it will get done.
September 11th, 2009 at 9:39 pm
Adam Schefter reporting right now on ESPN NEWS
September 11th, 2009 at 9:40 pm
Welcome to the nation Dick
September 11th, 2009 at 9:44 pm
Mistabrown Says:
September 11th, 2009 at 9:26 pm
Great Len ! Sounds good!
Lets shelve him for 2009! Who cares about that 2011 1st round pick out the window!
And in 2010 we can trade him for a 4th rounder after he has been on his couch for a year, sounds good Len!
Neither the team or player has leverage its a no win situation for both at this point.
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Been away for a few minutes.
Mista Chicken Little,
Ever take a course in basic finance or economics?
Dick Seymour will show uo to collect His check.
THE END.
September 11th, 2009 at 9:44 pm
Now can we all RELAX and focus on the Discharge of the Chargers!
September 11th, 2009 at 9:46 pm
Raider75 maybe you should become the beat writer …you are on things faster than the guy running this blog …we should get an update sometime tomorrow.
September 11th, 2009 at 9:50 pm
Well I’m just shocked!
Dick Seymour came to the end of his tether and will report to COLLECT HIS MONEY.
Shocking really. I mean He could have retired, or held His breath, or stomped His feet, but no, He will TAKE THE MONEY.
ON THE RAIDERS TERMS.
September 11th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
just seen on espn2 bottom scroll, seymour to report on time 2 play monday. hell yeah. hope he takes it out on them punks.
September 11th, 2009 at 9:54 pm
cant wait…..
September 11th, 2009 at 9:54 pm
Seymore could help us, no question, but I asked myself after seeing how this chump is acting, forget him if he doesn’t want to play for Oakland, we don’t need another Randy Moss quiter. Besides I don’t like the patriots, and Seymour is a patriot, and Moss is phony, real champions and players never quit no matter what I don’t care what team you play for! Lets keep our 1st round pick and draft a stud DT, tired of taking other players from other teams, so then other haters can brag about it. Build our own, keep cancer out, anyone else agree? Hey Sey punk stay home bra.
September 11th, 2009 at 9:55 pm
RaiderLen
The Players contract in comment #287 sections 11,12,14,15 and 17 placed all the terms in the Raiders favor via the Players Contract.
So many in here were dancing around the terms, just need to read the contract and the Raiders held all the cards, poker pun there.
No mention on the ESPN report of a contract renegoiated or no lift of the potential Franchise Tag.
It’s all about the money!
September 11th, 2009 at 9:56 pm
This could be seen from a 1000 miles away.
Oh the drama.
ALWAYS FOLLOW THE MONEY.
September 11th, 2009 at 9:57 pm
The Raiders and Richard Seymour are in the final stages of planning the defensive lineman’s arrival in Oakland this weekend, sources familiar with the negotiation told ESPN Friday.
AFC West blog
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Seymour is expected to fly to Oakland as early as Saturday and arrive in time to play Monday night’s game against the San Diego Chargers.
Oakland did not give Seymour a new contract nor a promise not to slap its franchise tag on him after this season. But Seymour will not risk losing any of this year’s $3.685 million base salary and he will be that much closer to free agency in a potentially uncapped year in 2010.
The news is a sudden, stunning and abrupt end to a situation that had gone on for nearly a week and seemed as if it could last longer.
Oakland traded a 2011 first-round pick to New England last Sunday for Seymour. Then, after a week in which Seymour did not report, the Raiders sent him a five-day letter, giving him five days to report or risk being suspended. Oakland also removed him from its roster and signed defensive tackle William Joseph.
But executives around the league believed Seymour’s best option was to report to the Raiders, begin collecting his $3.685 million salary and work off the last year of his contract.
Barring an unexpected breakdown, Seymour will become a Raider this weekend and be on the field Monday night.
Adam Schefter is ESPN’s NFL Insider.
September 11th, 2009 at 9:57 pm
i’ll take him
September 11th, 2009 at 9:59 pm
Ellis, Bryant, Kelly, and Seymour.
Please!!!
September 11th, 2009 at 9:59 pm
Let’s give the gameball to Fargas’ hamstring for keeping him on the sidelines Monday. The most exciting news for Raiders football in years. But the O-linemen wont know how to act with without Fargas running into their asses every 1st and 2nd down.
I want more Bush. I wanna see football players that can hit. I want to see Bush steamroll some linebackers and I want to see McFadden run past every defender on the field. Lets see some Raiders football!!!!
September 11th, 2009 at 10:01 pm
i said earlier we didn’t expect 2 have this guy from the start so i wasn’t all strung out about him but our biggest glaring need was a player like him. run stopping end. we were getting butchered all preseason long against the run so i admit i’m glad he’s coming. if he really wants to get paid he’ll come out strong.
September 11th, 2009 at 10:02 pm
the guy is about to be 30, he’s acting like a children. I’ll never understand NFL players, too much money around them they can not see reality.
September 11th, 2009 at 10:03 pm
Dell,
You’re a smart man. I didn’t read the contract, but understood the meaning of “THE LETTER”.
After learning of it, I understood the Raiders had the Hammer.
I also undrstand Human Nature. NOBODY walks away from 3.7 million, only to have to turn it down again in 2010 because “The Raiders suck”
lol
September 11th, 2009 at 10:04 pm
Even just A few play’s monday night, getting up-close and personell with PHILLIP RIVERS just 1 time, will be a good start.
September 11th, 2009 at 10:04 pm
Stabler76, well said!
Jerry will breaking the Seymour news by 12 noon saturday!
September 11th, 2009 at 10:05 pm
not 1 successful log out today
September 11th, 2009 at 10:06 pm
Thanks Mista….
I cant wait til Monday nite
September 11th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
Oh Snap!! I do know what I’m talking about.
Damn fool ass kids. When a grown man is speakng sit your ass down shutup and listen………….period
September 11th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
It’s on the newswire. Seymore will play for us Monday night.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4466811
September 11th, 2009 at 10:09 pm
Yeah Baby!!!!
Now, destroy the Dischargers Mon!!!!
Oak,
Sorry I missed you, I’ve been busy with school work. I miss the AM Crew!
September 11th, 2009 at 10:09 pm
RaiderLen
The uncapped year in 2010 means all Seymour can do is hope he reaches a contract extension before the end of the season.(2009)
The Raiders have the right to Franchise him for two additional years. Let’s play this out, if the players strike, and for some reason can’t play for a given year, the franchise Tag is forwarded to the next year or season. With two Franchise tags available to the Raiders he will be just turning 34 when he is a potential free agent again. This would mean the Raiders slapped the Franchise tag on him two consetutive years.
I would look to see a contract extension soon, 34 year old defensive lineman don’t earn as much as a 30 year old defensive lineman.
September 11th, 2009 at 10:10 pm
Seymour is expected to fly to Oakland as early as Saturday and arrive in time to play Monday night’s game against the San Diego Chargers.
Oakland did not give Seymour a new contract nor a promise not to slap its franchise tag on him after this season. But Seymour will not risk losing any of this year’s $3.685 million base salary and he will be that much closer to free agency in a potentially uncapped year in 2010.
The news is a sudden, stunning and abrupt end to a situation that had gone on for nearly a week and seemed as if it could last longer.
Oakland traded a 2011 first-round pick to New England last Sunday for Seymour. Then, after a week in which Seymour did not report, the Raiders sent him a five-day letter, giving him five days to report or risk being suspended. Oakland also removed him from its roster and signed defensive tackle William Joseph.
But executives around the league believed Seymour’s best option was to report to the Raiders, begin collecting his $3.685 million salary and work off the last year of his contract.
Barring an unexpected breakdown, Seymour will become a Raider this weekend and be on the field Monday night.
Adam Schefter is ESPN’s NFL Insider.
September 11th, 2009 at 10:11 pm
Have any of you talked to Seymour personally? Let’s give him the benefit of the doubt until we hear from him. Everything was kept quiet, the Raider way.
September 11th, 2009 at 10:14 pm
Finally sweet! Now we just need him to play at full speed and not just play like Moss when he no longer wanted to be here.
September 11th, 2009 at 10:14 pm
Guy’s what Seymour did many have done. He’s not the first and he certainly wont be the last. He got traded at the 11th hour and it caugh him by surprise and he just neededtimeto put it in perspective($200,000) then start making plans to do what had to be done………period
Why do you think I haven’t been in here the last few days? Just tooo much hew and cry and whinning about smehing that was a done deal……….period
What else could he do? NOTHING!!
September 11th, 2009 at 10:14 pm
fu priest,…all priests molest little boys like you do…oh snap!! lol
September 11th, 2009 at 10:17 pm
Raider Dell Says:
September 11th, 2009 at 10:09 pm
RaiderLen
The uncapped year in 2010 means all Seymour can do is hope he reaches a contract extension before the end of the season.(2009)
The Raiders have the right to Franchise him for two additional years. Let’s play this out, if the players strike, and for some reason can’t play for a given year, the franchise Tag is forwarded to the next year or season. With two Franchise tags available to the Raiders he will be just turning 34 when he is a potential free agent again. This would mean the Raiders slapped the Franchise tag on him two consetutive years.
I would look to see a contract extension soon, 34 year old defensive lineman don’t earn as much as a 30 year old defensive lineman.
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Like I said Dell…You’re a smart man.
The Raiders possess even more leverage then I was aware of.
I said the other night… as AL was getting raked over the coals… though He’s old, He still knows contracts.
Leverage Baby. And by the way, You think Seymour might be motivated by a Big Fat Payday?
September 11th, 2009 at 10:18 pm
…oh snap
September 11th, 2009 at 10:18 pm
PriestJ I owe you an apology you said he would play Mon and damn if he ain’t gonna play my bad. I not gonna hate on Seymour at all he is 30 last big payday , man I am so psyched damn Seymour!
GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 11th, 2009 at 10:18 pm
Yeah! and I just molested YOU…..sissy.
September 11th, 2009 at 10:19 pm
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4466811
bout time
September 11th, 2009 at 10:22 pm
Priest you really went out on a limb! LMAO
What were you right about ?
September 11th, 2009 at 10:23 pm
No apologies necessary NMF, just let it be a lesson to you not to get caugh up in HYPE!! Simplify the situation and make common sense out of it. And normally you’ll come to the right conclusion.
September 11th, 2009 at 10:23 pm
Hot damn, boys – let’s play football.
September 11th, 2009 at 10:26 pm
From PFT earlier tonight…
There’s a report tonight from Michael Lombardi of NFL Network that the Oakland Raiders have placed defensive lineman Richard Seymour on the reserve/left club list.
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Schefter reports tonight that Seymour will report and play for Raiders on Monday night.
If Schefter is correct, this puts a big black mark on Lambardi’s ability to report on the Raiders. He is always coming up with crazy crap concerning Al Davis and the Raiders.
September 11th, 2009 at 10:26 pm
Priest was right.
Bow in his presence, mere mortals.
Enjoy it Priest.
September 11th, 2009 at 10:28 pm
333 see 318
September 11th, 2009 at 10:28 pm
I Love/Hate how the modern media makes everything out to be a High School Soap Opera.
They all seem to be shocked at the sudenness of Dick Seymour reporting for duty.
If they had read the contract that Dell posted here, and had done a bit of deductive reasoning, it would have been a foregone conclusion that Seymour would report.
That would be boring. Much better to throw Raider Crap against the wall and hope something sticks.
September 11th, 2009 at 10:28 pm
News
Raiders put Seymour on reserve-left squad list
Posted: September 11th, 2009 | NFL.com Staff | Tags: New England Patriots, Oakland Raiders, Richard Seymour
NFL Network’s Michael Lombardi reports Richard Seymour was placed on the Raiders’ reserve-left squad list Friday.
The move indicates that the Raider consider Seymour part of their organization, essentially acknowledging that the trade with New England is official, and that Seymour has left the team without permission.
The Raiders sent a 2011 first-round pick to the Patriots for Seymour on Sept. 6, but the veteran defensive tackle has yet to report to Oakland.
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What a punk
September 11th, 2009 at 10:29 pm
The fox in the hen house justed used Lombardi to Motivate Richie
September 11th, 2009 at 10:33 pm
Just doin’ what I do….4daNation…peace!
September 11th, 2009 at 10:35 pm
hey,what happened to all the wise guys talking about how RS would never allow himself to be associated with the lowly OAKLAND RAIDERS and how AD blew it again?sucks to not know what you are talking about,right boys.
September 11th, 2009 at 10:38 pm
Just got in ………. is it true espn is saying seymore shows on sat and will play on monday
Free Dakota
Free Huey
September 11th, 2009 at 10:39 pm
Now the Union has filed a grievance for Seymour regarding this letter!
Why can’t we have one normal good day here in Raider land!
September 11th, 2009 at 10:43 pm
http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/articles/2009/09/12/union_files_grievance_for_seymour/
September 11th, 2009 at 10:44 pm
Silver-n-Black666 Says:
September 11th, 2009 at 10:39 pm
Now the Union has filed a grievance for Seymour regarding this letter!
Why can’t we have one normal good day here in Raider land!
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Link please. “The Letter” is a part of a negotiated collective bargining agreement.
Sounds like BS.
September 11th, 2009 at 10:46 pm
And I quote
“Seymour has not spoken publicly since the trade, but the grievance appears to be a strong indication that he does not want to play for the Raiders.”
This is sucking more each day!!!!!!!!!!
September 11th, 2009 at 10:47 pm
RAIDERS PUT SEYMOUR ON RESERVE-LEFT SQUAD STATUS
http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/09/11/raiders-put-seymour-on-reserve-left-squad-list/
September 11th, 2009 at 10:48 pm
Yeah I made it up Len
Sorry PAL, I go to the games this hurts me too much to be some kind of sadist who posts crap just to hear his keyboard click.
September 11th, 2009 at 10:50 pm
The Raiders and Richard Seymour are in the final stages of planning the defensive lineman’s arrival in Oakland this weekend, sources familiar with the negotiation told ESPN Friday.
September 11th, 2009 at 10:51 pm
why do so many of the people on here try to find as much negative BS about the team as they can?Seymour won’t show up,Mac isn’t starting,Fargas might play more than Bush,Cable’s play calling is questionable,Morris sucks at center(even though he hasn’t played 1 game there yet,ETC.?wouldn’t it be a lot less stressful to WAIT and see what happens and then voice your concerns,approval,or disapproval.too many jump to conclusions with no bases for those conclusions.although a lot of those types comments are made just to get others pissed off.
September 11th, 2009 at 10:52 pm
So does this mean big Al is still on top of his game? Didn’t cave to any demands and brought in a pro-bowler for a future #1.
September 11th, 2009 at 10:53 pm
666,
I didn’t mean to imply that YOU made it up.
The request for the link was to read YOUR source of information.
Sorry for this mis understanding.
After having read the link, I think It’s a grasp at a straw.
The idea that a player can “sit out” and not take a physical, to “get around” the 5 day letter is laughable.
Nothing to worry about.
Seymour is on His way to Oakland, and will play for the Raiders.
September 11th, 2009 at 10:54 pm
I told you peckerwoods that Pat would show up in here….told Jerry that too,…guess hes at mcdonalds,..hasnt tweeted in a while…prolly only play a handful of plays monday though. wont matter much anyway….me and brien at the game, all of you are as well ya?
September 11th, 2009 at 10:55 pm
SNB666
The letter states he can’t receive his letter until he has taken his physical. The media was laughing at the Raider Organization, stating that the trade may have not been contingent on a physical. So that info was wrong, Seymour needs to take a physical to be a member of the “Club”.
Also section 17 of the Player’s Contract:
17. ASSIGNMENT. Unless this contract specifically provides otherwise, Club may assign this contract and Player’s services under this contract to any successor to Club’s franchise or to any other Club in the League. Player will report to the assignee Club promptly upon being informed of the assignment of his contract and will faithfully perform his services under this contract. The assignee club will pay Player’s necessary traveling expenses in reporting to it and will faithfully perform this contract with Player.
The letter which is stated to be Non Injury was a legal letter to provide the Raiders with a roster exemption, to sign a recall William Joseph.
The Raiders became salary cap complient with the restructuring of Green contract and McQuistian contract.
The letter was then hand delivered to Seymour too comply with the CBA, Collective Bargaining Agreement.
September 11th, 2009 at 10:56 pm
Bob, good to see you posting. Miss ya one liners….
September 11th, 2009 at 10:57 pm
now there is a report that the players union will file a grievance against the five day letter. Their position is that the Raiders can’t enforce the letter but the Pats can. That would be a great out clause for the Raiders. I still think that even if he does show up he’s either gonna go half speed the entire season or fake an injury and sit on the sidelines and sulk. Unless he signs a long term contract we need to get out of this deal with our pick back.
September 11th, 2009 at 10:58 pm
Hey Seymour! You are under an NFL contract. Your contract was traded. Get here! The Raiders don’t care about your wife, kids, house, or your logistics! The Raiders didn’t trade for your wife and kids. They aren’t part of the deal! We don’t care!! The Raiders traded for your NFL contract, and the rest is your problem. You had better be on the field come Monday Night!!!
September 11th, 2009 at 10:59 pm
OK Len sorry man just super pissed off about this whole thing
September 11th, 2009 at 11:03 pm
DT-i totally disagree about getting out of this deal.the league(teams) can’t let the players dictate whether or not they will honor their contracts.what seems to be forgotten,but skillfully pointed out by Dell,is actually the contract is traded more than an individual.the individual must be made to honor that contract that he signed.
September 11th, 2009 at 11:03 pm
Dell why did they (Union)file the grievance for him?
That’s what I am trying to find out
September 11th, 2009 at 11:04 pm
666,
As Fans we’re in it together.
It would be nice to string a few “un eventfull years” together, and build a winning Team.
Peace.
September 11th, 2009 at 11:04 pm
I say let the Players Union file a grievance. The NFL wil counter with his delay in seeking employment to his new club, the Raiders.
Why should he be given 5 days to decide his destiny.
The contract gives him no right to sit and pout.
I say let’s have him fail his physical, and return him back to New England, and watch the fun, Belicheat will have with a disgruntled player, who he dissed off right before the season started, and we get back our 2011 draft pick.
I can’t believe this guy, he should learn to read a players contract.
September 11th, 2009 at 11:06 pm
HHM-actually showing we care about ones family would help with the perception of our team.
September 11th, 2009 at 11:08 pm
I’m not a lawyer, and have no knowledge of the history or precedence of “THE LETTER”, but to be redundant, it may have to do with establishing a precedent regarding the letter.
Has it ever been used?
If so, what were the outcomes?
September 11th, 2009 at 11:11 pm
SNB666
My read into the “letter” will be to test the procedures of the CBA. The argument is the Raiders can’t send him a letter due to his medical appointment, or physical. The Raiders will contend his absence, due to his delay forced them to send the letter to comply with the CBA. The roster exemption is needed to bring back Joseph, and the letter is the official document to comply with the league rules.
The union has no leverage, he hasn’t reported yet and the Raiders needed the roster spot.
The union just wants to see how far they could go with the rule on player reporting when traded.
September 11th, 2009 at 11:14 pm
Lefty, I know, but I’m sick of the talking heads saying “well, he has to take care of this, and he has to take care of that.” Meanwhile, we play on Monday. I feel if he’s not here for 16 games, then we’ve been cheated out of a 1st round pick.
September 11th, 2009 at 11:15 pm
This is a typical post by Cheatriots fans on PFT about Seymour:
BP says:
Like I said, no way Richie Rich is going to pass up money. He just likes being a pain in the ass.
Kiss Bills Rings says:
Raiders finally pushed the right button….Seymour is all about the MONEY…..I hope he plays against the Chargers for them!!!
September 11th, 2009 at 11:19 pm
I know Davis won’t let him walk, But I sure would.
I would resind the trade or have the team doctor fail his physical. He doesn’t want to be a Raider. Let’s move on, I don’t want to see a player who’s heart was not with the Nation!
Later Raider Men!
September 11th, 2009 at 11:19 pm
now,imo,the question is,does he play DT or DE.in the past he played DT in the 4-3 and DE in the 3-4.we play a 4-3.also,the person he is replacing(Joseph)is a DT not a DE.everyone is assuming he will play DE but is that really the case?
September 11th, 2009 at 11:22 pm
I agree, He should be Boood at the coliseum if he ever reports.
September 11th, 2009 at 11:33 pm
It’s an awesome football weekend to be a Raiders fan! Isn’t it?
What Richard Seymour is quickly finding out…is that Al Davis is one of the best players’ owners in the league. Even if he doesn’t like the trade, Seymour’s not going to come in hating Al.
Considering his abrupt trade — a complete surprise by all accounts — I never felt too much reason to worry about whether Seymour would show or not. A few tense days? Big deal. It’s the biggest move of his life, he’s got plenty of things to deal with, and I’m sure he was given a long-leash to get his affairs in order (and carefully weigh his options).
Al held a bigger hammer, and he didn’t swing it. Yet.
This trade was a beautiful thing…and, if Seymour plays at a Pro Bowl level this year Al’s likely to give him that big raise he’s looking for.
Franchise Tag next year? Don’t think so. Methinks Seymour plays big, and Al pay$ big.
September 12th, 2009 at 12:37 am
lefty12 Says:
September 11th, 2009 at 7:05 pm
Oakglenn,you are correct.this is a problem for the league.you cannot have players under contract dictating they can or cannot be traded and dictating where they go.
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Lefty is right. This is the crux of this entire debacle. The demon in all of this is Seymour. Seymour signed an agreement he doesn’t want to live up to. So did Burgess. You keep up that attitude, you’ll be out the league soon. Any other questions??
September 12th, 2009 at 12:40 am
Silver-n-Black666 Says:
September 11th, 2009 at 11:15 pm
This is a typical post by Cheatriots fans on PFT about Seymour:
BP says:
Like I said, no way Richie Rich is going to pass up money. He just likes being a pain in the ass.
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Funny thing is, Triple 6 is exactly right. And in my life, I have found that people that are a pain in the ass in the beginning of a relationship, are a pain in the ass in the middle and they are a pain in the ass at the end! Maybe this Seymour guy is not worth the trouble.
September 12th, 2009 at 12:49 am
# Raider Dell Says:
September 11th, 2009 at 11:11 pm
SNB666
My read into the “letter” will be to test the procedures of the CBA. The argument is the Raiders can’t send him a letter due to his medical appointment, or physical. The Raiders will contend his absence, due to his delay forced them to send the letter to comply with the CBA. The roster exemption is needed to bring back Joseph, and the letter is the official document to comply with the league rules.
The union has no leverage, he hasn’t reported yet and the Raiders needed the roster spot.
The union just wants to see how far they could go with the rule on player reporting when traded.
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No way on this Dell. A player HAS to report for a physical. He can’t lolligag around and play Playstation and zone off in lala land. He has to report. Seymour has not reported. He is in violation of his contract. I am sure there is a “reasonability” clause in the contract. In other words, the Raiders must have him report from Boston to Oakland. Reporting 45 minutes after the contract ratified , might be deemed “unreasonable.” But NOT reporting for 7 days is CLEARLY “unreasonable”. Think there hasn’t been a flight from Boston to the Bay Area in the last week? I don’t think so. Seymour is clearly the villian here. Don’t EVER sign an agreement you don’t intend to live up to.
September 12th, 2009 at 9:19 am
Seymour on playing this monday night…”I’ll be the one on top of the quarterback.”
Now that is what I’m talking about!
I hope Al Davis finally realizes that offensive tackle and defensive end are the two most important positions on the football field.
Ellis, Bryant, Kelly, and Seymour…..please!!!
September 14th, 2009 at 11:37 pm
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