Cable says the magic word
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, September 15th, 2009 at 3:40 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Raiders coach Tom Cable did a rare thing Tuesday.
The day after a 24-20 loss to the San Diego Chargers, he used the word that sticks in the craw of every armchair quarterback in the country.
“That’s coaching, in being confident how we’re going to close it out,” Cable said. “It’s almost like we got into a prevent mode rather than just continuing to play defense.”
Prevent.
The Raiders are never going to be a blitz-heavy team, and they managed to get good pressure on Philip Rivers with four men most of the day. Late in the game, the rush wasn’t quite as good, and to continue the downward spiral, Raiders defenders were allowing huge underneath cushions and giving Darren Sproles too much room to operate.
“We are who we are, yet at the same time you might have a better mix than going one way or the other,” Cable said. “Whether it’s all bump-and-run, or all zone, off zone . . . if we learned anything as coaches, there’s a better mix rather than being one-dimensional.”
More news and notes on an off day for the players:
– Cable was probably diplomatic enough to avoid a fine, but he left little doubt he doesn’t think much of the rule which erased a 15-yard touchdown pass from JaMarcus Russell to Louis Murphy because the receiver didn’t control the ball all the way to the ground. Murphy’s both feet had clearly landed in the end zone and he appeared to land on his rear-end before the ball came loose.
“Perhaps it is a rule that needs to be looked at,” Cable said. “If you had that play happen 20 times this season, 19 of them would be touchdowns. If you go to the replay booth, it’s supposed to be absolute evidence that it needs to be overturned. When you spend that much time in the booth, obviously it wasn’t that obvious.
“I’m amazed there is a rule like that in the end zone in terms of full possession when guys are going over the top of the pylon and holding the ball over the pylon, it comes out when they come down and it is still a touchdown. There’s probably some work that needs to be done on that, but it is what it is, and we can’t dwell on that. We can’t make it any more than it is whether we agree with it or not.”
– Justin Fargas will be “good to go” this week in practice, and it sounds as if his return won’t have much an effect on the workload of Darren McFadden, but it could mean fewer touches for Michael Bush.
McFadden had 17 carries for 68 yards and two receptions for 25 more, while Bush had 12 rushes for 55 yards and one catch for four yards.
“We’re going to have two primary runners in every game. You’ve got to have your third ready to go. Last night it was Louis Rankin if we needed him,” Cable said. “Justin is proven and proven in this system. What it does is bring a couple more packages into the offense, so hopefully we’ll get to do some of that this week.”
When asked if Fargas was No. 3 going into the game, Cable said, “I look at it as Darren is the starter and the other two guys are his backup.”
– No chance of seeing wide receiver Chaz Schilens this week against the Chiefs. Cable said Schilens is at least a “week or two” away from practicing, meaning he could be ready for Denver at the Coliseum in Week 3 or a road game in Houston in Week 4. Johnnie Lee Higgins, meanwhile, has an AC sprain of his shoulder after being crushed by Eric Weddle on a slant pass by Russell and was getting an MRI Tuesday.
– If the Raiders had designs on eventually making Khalif Barnes into a right tackle once they determined Mario Henderson would play on the left side, they were scuttled once Barnes broke his ankle.
Barnes will practice this week, but apparently it’s a little late in the game to have him switch sides for the first time. He’ll remain on the left side and work at both tackle and guard.
“I don’t thinking (moving him to the right) is the right thing to do at this point because he hasn’t even been in a right-handed stance,” Cable said. “And even had that been part of the plan going into camp, he got injured (and we) never got to it.”
– The problem with Darrius Heyward-Bey in his first regular-season NFL game was that his mind may have been racing even faster than his feet.
“I thought I saw a real nervous, uptight young man, a lot of big eyes,” Cable said. “They’ll have their highs and their lows as they go through this thing. We’ll expect him to be better next week. We’ll go to Kansas City. It will be extremely loud. It wil be their home opener, another division rivalry. He has to learn how to handle this. No question.”
Cable indicated, however, that when Schilens returns, he would likely cut into Louis Murphy’s snaps rather than Heyward-Bey’s.
“Schilens plays the other side (from Heyward-Bey),” Cable said. “You’ve got the ability to get three guys on the field at the same time and maybe have some fun with that.”
– As for Javon Walker, this is what Cable needs to see before he can be activated, “That he can run fast, get out of breaks and separate.”
Pretty much everything but catch the ball.
– The Raiders held San Diego to 77 yards rushing, with a problem area suddenly having some promise being that it came against a Chargers team with LaDainian Tomlinson and Darren Sproles.
“We have spent an incredible amount of time learning how to fit runs with your right shoulder and learning where your help is and all that,” Cable said. “That fundamental concept showed up in a big way last night. On top of that, we have some good players here. When you put the two of them together . . . you had an night like we had.”
– Asked about Russell’s inability to get the ball to wide receivers (3-for-18 to wideouts, 9-for-12 to running backs and tight ends), Cable said, “I think there’s some inaccuracy there. The poise, I thought, was the most improvement in JaMarcus Russell, I thought his timing was better. He didn’t hold the ball as much. Now I’ve got to dail it in and throw to the proper shoulder and those sorts of things in terms of accuracy.”
– Left guard Robert Gallery returned to the game following a back injury and Cable said it did not appear to be an issue Tuesday.
– Kick coverage and kickoff returns were an issue. Sproles got loose for kickoff returns of 66 and 59 yards, with Cable saying, “I think we got blocked. I think we got out of lanes. I think we got a couple of errors assignment-wise in terms of lanes and coverage. We stayed blocked once we got blocked. We have to change that right away.
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September 15th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
RUSSELL SUCKS.
September 15th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
13th
September 15th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
Section
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Seats
Description 238
11
1 – 2
CLUB: Sideline
Second Deck – Mid Level
Visiting Team Side
East Side of Stadium
How are these seat? It says these are the best they have. Eagles- Raiders
September 15th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
START GRADKOWSKI
September 15th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
Or Frye even…anyone but Russell.
September 15th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
Let’s resign Garcia after Philly cuts him. He sat at home in his living room for 2 weeks. He must be a hot commodity.
September 15th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
Cable indicated, however, that when Schilens returns, he would likely cut into Louis Murphy’s snaps rather than Heyward-Bey’s.
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That’s unfortunate…looks like our 10 offensive players will have to continue going against 11 defenders.
September 15th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
What the Eff is going on with Walker? Either play him or cut him he can’t help if he doesn’t play. Are they saving him for Thanksgiving?
September 15th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
Murphy’s both feet had clearly landed in the end zone and he appeared to land on his rear-end before the ball came loose.
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I guess Jerry got it wrong too …
September 15th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
Lynn,..remember Marcus Allen?
September 15th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
Barnes at RT was our only hope…looks like Mop Handle/False Start Green gets another free pass.
September 15th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
Fargas makes me want to vomit! Less carries for Bush? If Russell doesnt cost Cable his job Cable is going to hang his own a$$!
– Justin Fargas will be “good to go” this week in practice, and it sounds as if his return won’t have much an effect on the workload of Darren McFadden, but it could mean fewer touches for Michael Bush.
September 15th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
Shut up about that ref td call,..thats not why we lost,…russell is why we lost and why we will lose at kc too.
September 15th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
I am not liking Tom Cable right now.
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I haven’t liked him since the five blowouts last season….
September 15th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
Great game. Typical outcome. It was exactly like the Raiders of olde. EXACTLY…right down to the prevent loss
http://www.raidernationstation.com/2009_regular_season
September 15th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
# Oakglenn Says:
June 8th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
Mark Sanchez is a bust. Now we won’t know that for three years, but I know now. That makes no sense. Unless, you’re a moron.
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# Oakglenn Says:
September 13th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
Why don’t you go find it?? I never said it. You are a complete idiotic liar. Until you find that statement, expect this post to follow each and ever one of your posts. Liar.
September 15th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
Justin Fargas will be “good to go” this week in practice, and it sounds as if his return won’t have much an effect on the workload of Darren McFadden, but it could mean fewer touches for Michael Bush.
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Uh oh …
Priest ????
Get back over to HQ and hollar at your boy Cable! How can he not see the greatness that is Michael Bush???
September 15th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
I am not liking Tom Cable right now. Screw draft status! Louis Murphy is hands down the best receiver after Schilens. Stop trying to prove a point! D-HB can’t even catch a ball! Murphy was catching them all game long including 2 TDs (yes that was a TD)
DHB is a developmental guy that needs to watch and keep getting reps in practice and an occassional look in certain formations
Justin Fargas HAS NO BUSINESS EATING INTO MICHAEL BUSH’S TIME! If anything, take the time away from McFadden. Michael Bush is the best running back on the team.
THe coaching is good as far as getting the attitude right.
Its still below average when it comes to playcalling and setting the depth chart
September 15th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
MistabrownNose
You need to stop your love affair with Oakglenn all its doing is making you look like you have a mad man crush on him!
You are so obsessed with oakglenn why do you covet his man meat so much?
September 15th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
Oakglenn Says:
June 8th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
Anyone with half a brain can see that Jamarcus Russell is a bonafide franchise Q.
September 15th, 2009 at 3:53 pm
There were two posters who specifically made sense today.
JHill and……Real MaddenRaider
JaMarcus Russell didn’t lose this game. He damn near won it! You fools out there that want that pop gun 5 yrd sideways throwing Pennington, Quinn, Delhomme, GArcia type don’t asprire to anything great. Russell makes throws that a lot of QBs can’t. BEcause of this, the team is a threat to score at anytime and the defense has to respect that. Is he going to throw picks? Yes! But he’s also gonna get you a couple of TDs!
Russell did his job last night. He put the team in a position to win the game.
The coaches lost this game again. Just like last year. The coaches and their PREVENT defense.
I mentioned MR earlier. He’s right on one point. The players take the blame….but the coaches or methodology was the one that screwed them in this game.
How many times have we seen 4th quarter leads end like that? How many?
You have a lead with a couple of minutes left…you should win those games.
The Raiders are something like 0 and forever when they get those leads.
And its the scheme because it has the same look all the time. Ricky Brown chasing a receiver across the middle….some running back catching pass after pass.
Hell, Ronnie Harmon used to do the samething 15 yrs ago.
I am tired of it because here we are questioning the players and their skills when it was pathetic and cowardly coaching at the end of the game!
September 15th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
Jamarcus isn’t a bust yet,…… wait until he reaches Canton Ohio. LOL
September 15th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
Yes it is true that Flaco, Ryan and Sanchez are making Russell look bad.
He is not catching on as fast as they are. It is going to take him longer to get there but he will eventually.
September 15th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
So Oakglenn never called Sanchez a bust..
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# Oakglenn Says:
June 8th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
Mark Sanchez is a bust. Now we won’t know that for three years, but I know now. That makes no sense. Unless, you’re a moron.
September 15th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
Oakglen, did you agree if I found that Sanchez post you wouldn’t come to this blog anymore?
Now that we ALL know your a compulsive liar & sociopath I dont know why you would want to come back..
September 15th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
Oak don’t argue with SistaBrownEye
She cant read very well!
September 15th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
No more free passes for Russell. Either he plays like a #1 NFL QB or he can ride the pine & let either Gradkowski or Frye get the job done.
We need to stop making excuses for Russell’s poor play. Practice is over. This is the real deal and we need to make sure the Real Deal is leading this team.
September 15th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
JHill,
You saw the same things I saw last night. Too many playcalls trying to make big plays down the field. You have two running backs that can make plays and we hardly throw a screen pass…rarely if ever saw the 2-tight ends…it was send them deep and leave the running back in to block resulting in no checkdown options.
I hate that the fools on this board are talking about Russell. WHat I see from Russell is a guy that seems to complete passes to guys that he has confidence in. murphy and miller found a way to make plays…
Russell had 2TD passes yesterday. 1 INT because of route running and another in garbage time.
Yet the boo birds want to play a bunch of sideways ball with QBs like Garcia and Pennington.
Give me a break.
The offense scored 24 points. That’s plenty enough to win.
Tell Cable to put some balance and common sense in his play calling and for goodness sake…get Bush the ball more!
September 15th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
doo doo butter!
DHB had two drops, one off his hands that was a but high but catchable and another he let get into his chest.
Murphy’s TD that got called back was a perfect example of how to catch the ball. He has his hands in a diamond and the point of the ball went right in there perfectly.
Even watching DHB’s college highlights he lets too many balls get into his chest.
Yes DHB had a bad night but it is a coachable problem. I would not worry about it too much at this point. One game one loss lets get better
My main problem with last nights game was I saw OUR players slipping all over the dang field.
I saw DHB just fall on his arse on one play when he tried to stop and do a come back.
Our DB’s and LB’s slipped coming up when sproles was getting underneath catches.
Something was weird with the field and not just the dirt. Players need to be more adapted to the environment they are gonna be playing in including field conditions.
September 15th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
There is no way in hell DHB should be starting over Murphy.
Murph and Chaz would be a nice, reliable combo for JR. DHB is har from a bust but he has a long way to go.
September 15th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
that’s your big announcement?? So after one game, Mark Sanchez is the new Joe Willie Namath?? You are stupider than I thought, and I thought you were REALLY STUPID before. So now, one game makes a player. Wow. Here this is better:
# Mistabrown Says:
February 29th, 2008 at 10:31 pm
The Browns are going be a thorn in that division next year.
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Missed-a-brain, here are your comments. Actually, the Browns were 4-12 that year and 1-5 in the division. The only team in the division they beat were the lowly Bungholes. They were actually better OUTSIDE the division posting a 3-7 record outside the division. So, no, the browns were not a thorn to anyone last year PARTICULARLY IN THE DIVISION. You couldn’t get anything right if your life depended on it. You’ve never known anything dude. You are a moron.
September 15th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
I’m less worried about Fargas taking away Bush’s touches than I am about Russell’s swirl into the cellar. Fargas will no dout give it 150% effort and will get hurt again in trying. Rusell on the other hand needs to PERFORM AT AN APPROPRIATE SKILL LEVEL. Cable needs to pull him if he’s not on. We can’t afford to wait for him to come around. It’s now or never. Be a pro and perform no matter which WR is in there. Anything less is not tolerable.
September 15th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
why even entertain fargas as a option , make him 3rd option and thats that.
game was so exciting , i was left gutted in the end .
Murphy should not lose rep’s when schilles comes back i think DHB should make way , but for those giving up on him already is a joke , he is one of us , a good kid who wants to improve .lets support the guy.not like he has attitude problems .
D-mac should have been givin more space rather than up the middle all the time , that suits bush more.
and russell looks to have lots of pro’s and con’s .
he was inacurate on some basic plays but to hang him out to dry is only dertimental to us , he is our quaterback so get some tissues dry you eyes and get postive. yes we lost but we had passion and guys were fired up all night long .it hurts to lose a game we had in our graspbut thats football..
c.johnson was better than i gave him credit for also.
lets beatdown kansas
September 15th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
#41
Thank you
we all thank you!!!
September 15th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
I wil give JaMeatball to week 8 like I said before but the writing is on the wall for him. His appearance in a football uniform is embarrassing. He should not be allowed to suit up until he loses 20 lbs.
September 15th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
Mistabrown Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
Oakglen, did you agree if I found that Sanchez post you wouldn’t come to this blog anymore?
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No, we had an agreement that you would not come back once I put you in your place and you are a weasel. My statement is I don’t make deals with weasels. And I don’t believe Sanchez is not a bust based on one game. I don’t think anyone on the planet earth would think that other than you. But, then you don’t believe in global warming. Oh and BTW, consumer confidence and spending are up more than expectations, and NY area factory orders are waaay up. Looks like the new administrations economic policies are certainly helping the economy. You were completely wrong about that as well.
September 15th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
mcfadden doesnt have great speed,…bush should start,..dmac not all that special,..not 4th pick in draft special thats for sure.
September 15th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
MaximusRaiderus Great Post!
September 15th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
thats a rippoff!…160 each???????????????
September 15th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
# Mistabrown Says:
September 10th, 2009 at 5:17 pm
Who liked to bet on NFL?
Tenn will hammer Pitt.
rack me
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Here, let’s look at this comment. Tenn did not hammer Pitt, in fact they didn’t even win the game. So, in one very small statement missed-a-brain is wrong multiple times. Think about this for a second, that takes talent to be SO WRONG ON SO MANY THINGS SO OFTEN. I mean, you have to TRY to be this stupid don’t you??
September 15th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
RUSSELL SUCKS
September 15th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
Oakglenn Says:
June 8th, 2009 at 6:29 pm
# Mistabrown Says:
June 8th, 2009 at 6:26 pm
Teeter tottering means he isnt there yet but he is close.
A 3rd grader can figure that out, you moron!
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If we won’t know for a year and a half, how do you know now you he is teeter tottering moron???? That doesn’t make sense! Dumbass.
Oakglenn Says:
June 8th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
Mark Sanchez is a bust. Now we won’t know that for three years, but I know now. That makes no sense. Unless, you’re a moron.
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Hmmm, given the context was Oakglenn really calling Mark Sanchez a bust or was he just using an example?
anyone?
anyone?
September 15th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
You Russell haters are full of it! If the defensive coordinator / owner didn’t go play that textbook prevent garbage…we are in here talking about the offense putting points on the board and hanging in there.
Russell can give you a few plays that few QBs can make. I’ll take him ALL day over these popgun QBs we’ve been losing with these last years.
24 points is a fine outing
September 15th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
Oakglen, you said you didnt call Sanchez a bust. I posted your comment, why are you still here?
September 15th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
# Mistabrown Says:
February 29th, 2008 at 10:31 pm
“The Browns are going be a thorn in that division next year.”
The Browns were 1-5 in the division
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# Mistabrown Says:
September 10th, 2009 at 5:17 pm
Tenn will hammer Pitt.
rack me
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I think we can stop right there. You have no cred. And let’s not even start with your asinine views on global warming.
September 15th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
Michael Bush is the best RB on the team. I have yet to see DMC’s break away speed that is suppose to make him the elite RB over Bush.
September 15th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
I want to know why everyone is being so down on the team they played there a##es off and people just want to say how bad they suck remeber you crawl before you walk this is a step in the right direction
September 15th, 2009 at 4:10 pm
Mistabrown we got it!!!!! oakglen called mark sanchez a bust get over it!!! FACK!!!!
talk about the RAIDERS or getr back to facking work!!!!
September 15th, 2009 at 4:10 pm
Just thought I would stir the pot before I signed off!
lol
laters!
September 15th, 2009 at 4:10 pm
I mean, it’s beyond ridiculous SnB …
Bring in the QB of your choice and I think the point would be to be up in the 4th qtr.
Give me any of the Manning brothers, Brady, or whoever the hell you want. All you can hope for is the lead in the 4th qtr.
Now that you have you QB, can we please talk about the defense giving up the game AGAIN ?????
At least Cable came out and said as much. Now I will let it go UNLESS we see it again. Based on Cable’s comments, we shouldn’t EVER see that again while he is coaching.
September 15th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
sec 118 row 13 for $160 each
Thats a good seat. Or should I try for the the black hole?
September 15th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
Michael Bush over Fargas
Mcfadden = Fargas…
Louis Murphy over DHB
Any QB over J Rusell
September 15th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
All DuhMarcBust needs to do is find his accuracy? Isn’t that Step I for ANY QB at any level? Even Pop Warner? Give me a break! I would think accuracy should be the least of his concerns. 12-30 and 2 picks… 46% QB rating… And Garcia was cut… Brilliant! Well aside from that Mrs. Lincoln, how did you enjoy the play?
September 15th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
priesttj
I agree about Mcfadden, he goes down to wayyyy too easy… he is hesitant, never will be a punch in your mouth runner like adrian peterson…. he runs not to get injured… thats sad… in his mind he probably feels he is a pro bowl player with all the raider hype and greatness of the raiders hype…. but he hasnt shown anything, just a bit in that KC game last year where he got injured…..
but, I dont agree about J Rusell, and you can call me what you want, if thats your way of argument… I just call it like I see it… and how a lot of knowledgeable NFL people call it…. Rusell is a bust and will never be a NFL pro QB.
There was a QB back in the day… he played with the rams… James Harris… the guy was a black QB, with a laser arm… but all his passes were are the feet of the receivers…
Rusell will flat out kill a RB on a flat errant pass, because he has no touch…. and he will constantly miss open receivers….
Hey, you cant teach accuracy….
September 15th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
DHB the new James Jet?
September 15th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
Post of the Year!
Oakglenn Says:
June 8th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
Anyone with half a brain can see that Jamarcus Russell is a bonafide franchise Q.
September 15th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
neil and bob and mistabrowneye since you don’t knoe enything about football just go awwy
September 15th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
Mistabrown Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
I wil give JaMeatball to week 8 like I said before but the writing is on the wall for him. His appearance in a football uniform is embarrassing. He should not be allowed to suit up until he loses 20 lbs.
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What is this a fashion show. Give me a break.
September 15th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
Plunketthead Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 3:09 pm
http://www.raiderimage.com/4028040102.html
Look what I found for only 100 bucks.
What number should I put on my Cable jersey?
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Of course
September 15th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
Some of you fans think you’re so smart its sickening …like you know better than guys that have done this their whole lives. No, they are not perfect but gawd damn you all aren’t even close!
DHB should not start over Murphy? Didn’t you numskulls here Cable say Schilens and Murphy play the same side of the field? That’s like saying CooperC should not start over Gallery. THEY PLAY DIFFERENT SIDES OF THE LINE YOU IDIOTS!!
September 15th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
Norco Bob Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
mcfadden doesnt have great speed,…bush should start,..dmac not all that special,..not 4th pick in draft special thats for sure.
just dont run him up the middle everytime..
get him on the outside and once his legs are going he is gone , he has amzing speed you fool.
also did you see his block , he left the dude crippled on the ground … it wasnt a great game for our rushing but thats not our biggest problem , sniff somewhere else if you going to moan !!
September 15th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
The mighty Chargers back with Shawne Light out Merrimaid had ONE sack last night. ONE…
September 15th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
Mistabrown Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
Post of the Year!
Oakglenn Says:
June 8th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
Anyone with half a brain can see that Jamarcus Russell is a bonafide franchise Q.
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It is the post of the year because Oakglenn is watching the game! Russell makes throws that impact the game. He’s not Chad Pennington. You know, 70% completion but the team doesn’t score or scare anybody.
Russell threw 2 TDs last night in moments that truly mattered. 4th and 15, 4th QTR 2 minutes left. And boom!
Makes those throws to Miller. He played well last night. Screw your statistics. The 1 INT was in garbage time and the other was a route running issues (hey you start 2 rooks what do you expect)….his other receiver is MIA….
So keep throwing out your rhetoric and nonsense. Russell played well enough for this team to win
September 15th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
missed-a-brain doesn’t have a job, unless you call diving into dumpsters for day old food work.
September 15th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
Oakglenn,
Without Russell in there this team has no threats. The Raiders drove down the field a couple of times in each quarter. They scored 24 points against the Chargers.
Did he miss some throws? Yeah….so did Jay Cutler! so did Kurt Warner! Give me a break.
I’ll take those 2 TD throws when it all mattered over some short armed QB completing 70% of his 3 yard check downs.
September 15th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
Oakglen
You are putting Rusell in hall of famers company… thats a major reach…
Give me Sanchez any day over Rusell, give Matt Ryann, Give me Flacco, give me Rivers, give any startingf QB in the NFL, and I will still beat you any sunday with you and Rusell…
September 15th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
Mistabrown Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
Post of the Year!
Oakglenn Says:
June 8th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
Anyone with half a brain can see that Jamarcus Russell is a bonafide franchise Q.
i think he can be, its week one , you saw the best an worst of what he can do!! bet you just as fat … that slow metabolsim type
September 15th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
Oakglen, this a safe place for you this blog. You can swear up and down you never said something and then when I dig up the post of you saying just that you still deny it….lmao
Only on a Raider blog, and some of these goons dont even call you out for being a compulsive lying sociopathic loon.
LMAO
September 15th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
Raider RB’s laid the wood in pass protection and blocking. No doubt. whole team out phuysicalled the Chargers. Man handled those bishes.
Hope they don’t fall off a cliff next week.
Like RNS said: Jekyll and Hyde sometimes with these boys.
I hope Seymour won’t let that happen.
September 15th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
Of course according to missed-a-brains logic the following Q’s would be busts along with Jamarcus:
Troy Aikman, John Elway, Peyton Manning, Steve Young, Joe Montana,……..
And the following Q’s would be Hall of Famers:
Steve Bartkowski, Akili Smith, Eric Couch, David Carr….
September 15th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
Terrapin,
Louis Murphy is outshining DHB. Right now its all about production. Russell needs help out there and for whatever reason DHB is behind Murphy.
Has nothing to do with giving up on a player either. DHB will get it….just not yet.
Murphy had 2 TD catches and was solid in preseason. He can flat out fly down the field too. Schilens and Murphy with Miller at TE….get better playcalling from CAble and use DMAC and BUsh in the passing game and this team will put up 30+ a game
September 15th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
I’m out, Nation. Be good.
Big week of practice.
Play to Russell’s strengths/weaknesses.
Same with DHB. Give him high percentage stuff and maybe an end around or two to build his confidence. The good news with DHB: he works hard on his game and stays after practice.
Get McFadden in space, making one one moves. Start him, Tom, but don’t run him like Fargas. Not his strength. That would be….
Michael Bush. Give him the ball. Nuff said.
You can’t rationally justify taking Murphy off the field for DHB at this point. Chaz and Murphy.
Where is Brandon Myers?
High percentage.
Defense: keep doing exactly what you were, you looked fantastic.
Coaching: strengths/weaknesses/situation. Keep that in mind if you wanna win.
September 15th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
And really, wanting to throw a rookie WR to the wolves after 1 game is beyond ridiculous. U same fans would’ve thrown away Jerry Rice, Freddie B, Terrell Owens, et al …just because you are a bunch of winy btches.
These guys are young. Sht, just sit back and let them get better.
I swear some of you are just beyond ridiculous and sound like complete buffoons.
September 15th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
I loved the way the DL was mixing up the personnel last night. Seymore was lining up at RDE as well as NT and UT. I even saw Trevor Scott at DT a few times. They were givin the SD OL fits. Reminded me of how the Giants mix their DL personnel. Exciting stuff. Seymore gives us so much flexibility.
Pls Al resign that guy to what ever it takes.
September 15th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
haha rich
September 15th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
who in the hell is eric couch do you mean tim couch duh
September 15th, 2009 at 4:23 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
Mistabrown Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
Post of the Year!
Oakglenn Says:
June 8th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
Anyone with half a brain can see that Jamarcus Russell is a bonafide franchise Q.
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It is the post of the year because Oakglenn is watching the game! Russell makes throws that impact the game. He’s not Chad Pennington. You know, 70% completion but the team doesn’t score or scare anybody.
Russell threw 2 TDs last night in moments that truly mattered. 4th and 15, 4th QTR 2 minutes left. And boom!
Makes those throws to Miller. He played well last night. Screw your statistics. The 1 INT was in garbage time and the other was a route running issues (hey you start 2 rooks what do you expect)….his other receiver is MIA….
So keep throwing out your rhetoric and nonsense. Russell played well enough for this team to win
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Dimented soul..the rest of the team carried Russell’s sorryass. had they not, you wouldn’t have scored anything.
Are you so pathetic that you view a completion, ANY COMPLETION as a reason to celebrate?
Are you not aware they do this as A FULL TIME JOB? Every day they work at their skill…The aren’t just supposed to be able to play catch, because kids in Jr. High play catch..they work on getting that ball in the remotest of areas..on the move..with the proper velocity on the ball.
It’s not catch.
Because a player throws a basic ball isn’t a revelation, nor is a defender tackling someone right in front of him. Or a receiver catching a ball with no defenders around (Bey being the exception)..
The EASY THROWS?? Russell made (yep, just like in Jr. High)
The tough throws? He sucked, big time.
12 of 30.
qb rating of 44.
Only a complete babbling fool would state that the qb who did the above did enough to win the game.
Oh, and OakGeek’s “bonified qb”?? LMFAO..what else can one say? Oh yeah, he’s bonified alright..bonified candidate for biggest bust..ever.
September 15th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
Oh, ya, parting shot….
Richochet:
You’re jaded.
Show us on the doll where Al spanked you.
Don’t bother responding with any 8.5×11’s, I’m outta here.
September 15th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
So keep throwing out your rhetoric and nonsense. Russell played well enough for this team to win
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SnB is exactly right. And Russell did not play well. But when he walked off the field, with 2:40 to go, he left with a lead.
September 15th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
Eric Couch had a better career
September 15th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
Two years from now JaMeatball will be back in Alabama hawking his bling 2 pay for pizzas & Oakglen will be here saying Kiffin ruined Russell “he was a bonafide Q”
September 15th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
Ricochet,
There is no point in conversing with you.
Go follow Cleveland. Your kid is playing there.
He had 1 TD at the end of regulation when the game had long been done.
Give me a break
September 15th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
JT Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
Oakglen
You are putting Rusell in hall of famers company… thats a major reach…
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JT, you’re missing my point. Other than Montana, each one of those players were overall number ones, and every one of them was debatable whether they would develop at this same stage, Montana included. But their coaching staffs saw the potential in them, got some serious playmakers around them, and they all developed into not only excellent players, but winners. That is EXACTLY, what the Raiders are trying to do here! A tiny bit of support for Jamarcus probably would not hurt.
September 15th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
KiwiRaider Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
Mistabrown Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
Post of the Year!
Oakglenn Says:
June 8th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
Anyone with half a brain can see that Jamarcus Russell is a bonafide franchise Q.
i think he can be, its week one , you saw the best an worst of what he can do!! bet you just as fat … that slow metabolsim type
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I saw the worst.
I must have sneezed and missed the best.
What..uh…what was it that was his best?
Seriously.
I want to view his best, hoping it balances out his worst.
Can’t wait for this one..should be fun.
September 15th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
where did eric couch play and anyways i think my couch had a better career
September 15th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
Safeties played well. How bout HUFF?!
September 15th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
The Raiders are 1-0……against the spread.
September 15th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
How about the Michael Huff guy ????
Better late than never!
Now please tell me why Hiram Eugene is on the field?
Certainly wasn’t to help out over the top on Gates, or keep his eye on Sproles.
As the so called QB of the D, just don’t understand how Ricky Brown did not IDENTIFY Sproles being in the game. What did he think he was in there for, blitz pick up?
September 15th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
missed-a, you need a new hobby, like rack-o. Football is not getting it done for you. Try stamp collecting. It’s something you might enjoy, and it doesn’t require hardly any brain power.
September 15th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
The fans really helped raise the intensity of this team, I was proud to be a fan last night. 7 more home games……….don’t pet up people!
September 15th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
Couch = Kentucky?
September 15th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
DuhMarcBust, ChubBustUs, JaMoney, whatever you wanna call him, will be a solid QB. Not great, not even a pro bowler most likely, but solid for 10 years. The guy is as dumb as a bag of hammers. Maybe a handful of playoff wins, certainly no Super Bowls, and The Al, assuming he is still alive, will continue to start him REGARDLESS of how bad he plays. He missed several WIDE OPEN receivers with a lot of room to run last night. Easy throws a High School QB could have made. THAT cost the Raiders the game… Not the bad call by the refs, not the “Prevent” Defense… DuhMarcBust and his wild, off target throws. It should have been 28-10 by halftime. He is in his 3rd year, no more “he missed training camp TWO years ago…” no more “he’s young” no more excuses! Stand and deliver or ride the freaking pine!
September 15th, 2009 at 4:33 pm
Here’s what I don’t get …you guys are talking like Murphy doesn’t make mistakes. HELLO! He cost JR an interception on a TD drive!
They both make mistakes – hence, ROOKIES.
September 15th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
But of course DHBs mistakes are highlighted because he’s the 1st round selection and you guys wanted someone else. You guys sound like a bunch of spoiled wussies.
September 15th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
# jhill Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
But when he walked off the field, with 2:40 to go, he left with a lead.
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Yeah Oak, but it was HOW he got that lead that has everyone upset.
Whatever the heck that means, LOL!
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
Mistabrown Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
I wil give JaMeatball to week 8 like I said before but the writing is on the wall for him. His appearance in a football uniform is embarrassing. He should not be allowed to suit up until he loses 20 lbs.
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What is this a fashion show. Give me a break.
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LOL, jhill. Once again, what this missed a brain idiot does not understand (amongst practically everything else) is these guys are wearing so much passing, AND a flac jacket underneath! Look at Drew Brees sometime. Brees is actually about 5′11, 210, and he looks like those salt water infused chickens in those Foster Farms ads. You can’t tell a guys fat content with pads on, jeez.
September 15th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
But when he walked off the field, with 2:40 to go, he left with a lead.
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Yeah Oak, but it was HOW he got that lead that has everyone upset.
Whatever the heck that means, LOL!
September 15th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
Terrapin Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 4:33 pm
Here’s what I don’t get …you guys are talking like Murphy doesn’t make mistakes. HELLO! He cost JR an interception on a TD drive!
They both make mistakes – hence, ROOKIES.
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Murphy is catching balls though. Actual production. No emotion here Terrapin. We gotta get guys in there that are making plays right now.
Look, DHB will start next week with Murphy. Another opportunity to shine.
A WR can’t go the entire game with no catches man.
September 15th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
Cable is a straight shooter. The man don’t mess.
September 15th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
jhill Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
But when he walked off the field, with 2:40 to go, he left with a lead.
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Yeah Oak, but it was HOW he got that lead that has everyone upset.
Whatever the heck that means, LOL!
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Its because some of these so-called fans are full of it.
The goal is to score points and get a lead. Not look pretty.
The coaches lost that game yesterday and Cable all but admitted it!
“That’s coaching, in being confident how we’re going to close it out,” Cable said. “It’s almost like we got into a prevent mode rather than just continuing to play defense.”
Prevent.
The Raiders are never going to be a blitz-heavy team, and they managed to get good pressure on Philip Rivers with four men most of the day. Late in the game, the rush wasn’t quite as good, and to continue the downward spiral, Raiders defenders were allowing huge underneath cushions and giving Darren Sproles too much room to operate.
“We are who we are, yet at the same time you might have a better mix than going one way or the other,” Cable said. “Whether it’s all bump-and-run, or all zone, off zone . . . if we learned anything as coaches, there’s a better mix rather than being one-dimensional.”
September 15th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
What do we do about the DEFENSE NOT COVERING ANYONE?!?!?!
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Jhill,
Our D looked great untill we played alittle soft late in the goings it wont happen again from the sounds of it!
September 15th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
Terrapin Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
But of course DHBs mistakes are highlighted because he’s the 1st round selection and you guys wanted someone else. You guys sound like a bunch of spoiled wussies.
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Gosh, TurtleMan, you think maybe they’re highlighting your #7 pick, the 22 million dollar man, because..well..because so far he sucks?
See, here’s how it works in the NFL (many places, actually)
The “starter”?? yeah..that guy? he’s actually supposed to NOT be in a “oh geez, this is going to take some time to develop” stage. He’s supposed to actually be able to play in the NFL..you know..considering he’s the starter and all.
Now, maybe the ire should be directed at Cable??
Someone deserves it, that’s for sure.
September 15th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
Safeties played well. How bout HUFF?!
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Last nite I kept sayin someone must have switched numbers with Huff…lol
September 15th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
Louis Murphy could very well end up a much better receiver than DHB. He is just as fast, runs much better routes, received excellent coaching from Urban Meyer and played big in big games, something the Raiders obviously like.
September 15th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
Richochet Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
I saw the worst.
I must have sneezed and missed the best.
What..uh…what was it that was his best?
Seriously.
I want to view his best, hoping it balances out his worst.
Can’t wait for this one..should be fun.
hello pee-wee , how are you !!take your prosack pills today??
oh russell was bad there is no way around that , some really simple passes that the backup gradkowski was even making.
But what I said was we saw the best and worst of WHAT HE CAN DO (not his best .period) a taste of what he can do when firing.
The moment you sneezed or were on your knees in a compromising position?? Was 4th and what 15 I think and he threw a 57 yard touchdown pass to take us into the lead with 2.45 on the clock.. Did you not think when you finished on your knees, where the 7 extra points on the scoreboard had come from??
you being a senile negative man that you are can only see the bad things !!
it to be expected !!
September 15th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
Terrapin Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
But of course DHBs mistakes are highlighted because he’s the 1st round selection and you guys wanted someone else. You guys sound like a bunch of spoiled wussies.
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Nope. Has nothing to do with the draft. Louis Murphy is making plays on the field. Chaz Schilens was a beast in preseason.
DHB is competing right now. He has to find a way to earn the QBs trust, catch the ball and make plays
September 15th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
rack-o no one is going to take you seriously until you strip for the camera.
September 15th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
I fully support this statement posted earlier:
” no more “he’s young” no more excuses! Stand and deliver or ride the freaking pine!
September 15th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
You can’t just give Murphy a pass based upon him looking better than DHB.. Looking better than DHB is not hard to do.
Murphy caused a pick on that first drive in the red zone. At least 3 pts.
Gave the refs “a reason” on the play in the end zone. Picking right up where he left off on the Saints game. 4 more pts-
Had a big PI penalty on a screen play.
He needs to get it together in his own way.
September 15th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
This is my first time to comment but I couldn’t believe that all this garbage I am reading is actually coming from real Raider fans. If you don’t like the Raiders go somewhere else and blog for your team. The Raiders had a “good game” last night and I can see some hope for the future for the first time. Our young players will continue to get better and contribute to future wins. Most of the bad passes to w/r were due to badpass routes Jamarcus was very accurate to tight end and running backs. Have faith if you are a fan!
September 15th, 2009 at 4:44 pm
Kwame Harris is not an option at RT ????
WTF ????
Well, for those of you clamoring for Cable to open up the playbook so Russell can use the whole field won’t be happy to hear that.
QB X drops, back looks the S off left, turns, and FI ..
OOHHHHHH that had to hurt!
Phillips really leveled QB X.
Yeah, they’ve got to find a way to plug that hole if they expect QB X to do the things he’s capable of.
September 15th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
jhill Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
But when he walked off the field, with 2:40 to go, he left with a lead.
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Yeah Oak, but it was HOW he got that lead that has everyone upset.
Whatever the heck that means, LOL!
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Between you and Oak, you would be hardpressed to formulate a cohesive thought, so it’s no small surprise many of your posts include “whatever the heck that means”
See if this help, peanut.
Driving home, radio talk show hosts were discussing the Raider game.
Comment was “Well, if you would have switched qb’s for the game, and had everything else the same, the Raiders win 35 to 10, easily. Raiders defense outplayed SD’s, the Raiders Oline was more solid than SD’s, special teams about the same, the area that was behind was the Raiders WR’s, and that is because of the Raiders QB. ”
How do you argue with that?
Can you? Do YOU DARE??
Anyone? Can anyone state they believe that had you had a different qb behind center, that you wouldn’t have easily won yesterday?
I think you would have, bad coaching or not.
September 15th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
JHill,
I hear you on Murphy. But DHB has to do more than just show up too.
Murphy made “rookie” mistakes…but the kid made the plays that should have been a win.
NFL Network just had him up for Rookie of the Week.
Other analyst said Russell looked good…just needs to be consistent.
I am sold on the players on this team.
Its the coaching that makes me nervous!JHill,
I hear you on Murphy. But DHB has to do more than just show up too.
Murphy made “rookie” mistakes…but the kid made the plays that should have been a win.
NFL Network just had him up for Rookie of the Week.
Other analyst said Russell looked good…just needs to be consistent.
I am sold on the players on this team.
Its the coaching that makes me nervous!
September 15th, 2009 at 4:48 pm
Oakglenn Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
# jhill Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
But when he walked off the field, with 2:40 to go, he left with a lead.
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Yeah Oak, but it was HOW he got that lead that has everyone upset.
Whatever the heck that means, LOL!
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
Mistabrown Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
I wil give JaMeatball to week 8 like I said before but the writing is on the wall for him. His appearance in a football uniform is embarrassing. He should not be allowed to suit up until he loses 20 lbs.
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What is this a fashion show. Give me a break.
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LOL, jhill. Once again, what this missed a brain idiot does not understand (amongst practically everything else) is these guys are wearing so much passing, AND a flac jacket underneath! Look at Drew Brees sometime. Brees is actually about 5′11, 210, and he looks like those salt water infused chickens in those Foster Farms ads. You can’t tell a guys fat content with pads on, jeez.
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When you’re guts hanging out, it’s hanging out. You should know that, blubberbutt.
Off season..there’s Russell..at a nightclub, all of his bling on, gut hanging over his pants.
Raider fans were rushing to say ‘oh, hey, he’s young. He’s partying. don’t worry, he’ll come into camp in shape.”
Training camp arrives..there’s JR’s gut, hanging over his pants, looking slow as hell. JR ADMITS “I’m out of shape”
Week one..looked as active as a slug, lumbers along, looking still OUT OF SHAPE..and why, oh why does everyone still figure he’s a lardass? PROBABLY BECAUSE HE’S DONE NOTHING TO GET RID OF IT??
I know, I know, thinking isn’t your forte’.
doesn’t have to be.
Others can think for you.
In fact I think that would be best for all involved, don’t you?
September 15th, 2009 at 4:50 pm
Richochet,
Shouldn’t you be celebrating Singletary’s coaching debut.
The defensive coordinator let S.D march 80+ yds in 2 minutes and blew the lead.
STop that drive…game over. Period.
24 points is a fine effort for the offense.
No one plays perfectly. Especially a QB playing with two rookie WRs.
September 15th, 2009 at 4:50 pm
Listen…I agree, DHB has to catch the ball. That’s his job. The coaches and owner believe he will come around just as players in the past have that had the same troubles.
The guy can catch the ball. He would not have gotten this far if he could not. He just has to settle down and let it all come to him and keep working at getting better.
I just notice how many of you get on DHB so hard and put Murphy on a pedestal at the same time. That Saints game many of you simply ignored just how horrible he was. I didn’t but I knew he was young and has some learning to do. You’ll see things like that until they get their feet under them.
September 15th, 2009 at 4:50 pm
Remember, Tom Cable is basically a “rookie” as well. I think for the most part, he did pretty well. Where they effed up, was in the half time adjustments offensively. Rivera did a GREAT job for them, and we could not get on track after their adjustments.
September 15th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
I understand you fascination with me, but I’m really not interested.
Didn’t we do this dance already?
Did I say I wasn’t a Russell fan? Didn’t I say I didn’t want DHB?
What is it with you?
I could care less what ESPN (see why I keep tying you to them) radio analysts say. It’s their job to say shyt that makes people call in. Cats like you fall for it all the time.
Bottom line on the loss yesterday is SURE, Russell could have been Marino like and played better. Heck he could’ve been Rivers like and won the game.
Again, YOU ARE NOT TELLING US ANYTHING WE DON”T KNOW!
Now that we hopefully have that settled, did the defense lose the game in the last two minutes are not?
September 15th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
Ricochet,
There is no point in conversing with you.
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You guys just learning this? No esponse is the best response.
September 15th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
And I know you have selected reading syndrome so I’ll ask this again!
DID THE DEFENSE LOSE THE GAME IN THE LAST TWO MINUTES OR NOT?
SIMPLE YES OR NO WILL DO!
September 15th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
Horrible was an understatement that Saints game ..he was a train wreck.
September 15th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
Quit making excuses for newbies whether they be coaches or players. This is the NFL. Not For Losers! Not For Long. Not for lard-asses who don’t commit 100%. I don’t know about the rest of you but 6 long years has been enough. Produce or get out! NO MORE EXCUSES. Quit beting on the future. The future is now!
September 15th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
Oakglenn Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 4:50 pm
Remember, Tom Cable is basically a “rookie” as well. I think for the most part, he did pretty well. Where they effed up, was in the half time adjustments offensively. Rivera did a GREAT job for them, and we could not get on track after their adjustments.
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Guy has been a head coach before.
Guy was head coach last year for 12 GAMES..how the hell is he a rookie?
Excuses, excuses..why even reply?
September 15th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
# Richochet Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
Excuses, excuses..why even reply?
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that is a very good question. Why reply to you? When you show this sad level of football knowledge I keep hoping you buy that gold fish and take up a new hobby like missed-a-brain.
Just so you know, taking over a team in the first half of a season, with the other coaches plays, players, and drama is not really being a head coach where you develop your own routines and have your own training camp and plays. Last year Cable just took over a mess. But you like drama don’t you rack-o?? Now show us your boobs.
September 15th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
I’m out …some of you narrow sighted fans are just too much …too much negativity …too much pessimism
September 15th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
I’m just happy that Cable can diagnose the problems right after the game correctly. Hes not blind. Hopefully he can change a few things so we can be better.
September 15th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
The Raiders finally have a coach that has the team playing hard, physical, aggresive, football for the first time in 6 years without a ton of penalties and all you can do is complain. Must be related to Skip Bayless.
September 15th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
I am tired of the negative Russell talk.
He made the plays, ran the ball and was blocking on the end-around. He made the 4th QTR play to win the game.
Some players make a career of 4th QTR comebacks.
You guys should be calling out the coaching staff/owner for that ridiculous prevent defense they played again.
That last drive looked just like the Buffalo, S.D and Miami games all over again.
Playing not to lose is the same as playing not to win.
September 15th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
Oakglenn Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
# Richochet Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
Excuses, excuses..why even reply?
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that is a very good question. Why reply to you? When you show this sad level of football knowledge I keep hoping you buy that gold fish and take up a new hobby like missed-a-brain.
Just so you know, taking over a team in the first half of a season, with the other coaches plays, players, and drama is not really being a head coach where you develop your own routines and have your own training camp and plays. Last year Cable just took over a mess. But you like drama don’t you rack-o?? Now show us your boobs.
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Actually I rather enjoy exposing you as being a clueless fool.
No, it’s not hard.
no, it’s not even worthy of effort..but..for some odd reason, laughing at you falls into the “cheap entertainment” category.
You notice how you rarely, if EVER reply to the comments?
Notice how you’re always reduced to stupid little takes like above?
Notice how, of all the posters here, you’re called IDIOT more than anyone else?
Ever wonder about that?
Most idiots don’t, to be quite honest.
September 15th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
jhill Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
And I know you have selected reading syndrome so I’ll ask this again!
DID THE DEFENSE LOSE THE GAME IN THE LAST TWO MINUTES OR NOT?
SIMPLE YES OR NO WILL DO!
you would have to say yes as we were leading when they entered, and had two opurtunties on 3rd down to stop them
September 15th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
You know jamarcus played pretty bad in this game but I think i’ve been a little hard on em. Even though he stunk it up he gave us a chance to win at the end. The defense lost the game. That was a helluva pass for that 57 yard bomb. The D gave up the game and left no time for a comeback, but hard to fault the defense also because they had sd on their heels all game. Cables right with that damn prevent.smh…
September 15th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
No Sir, Oak!
We have no time for coaches learning on the job. Did that with Ryan for 5 years.
Letting that soft zone go for TWO scoring drives in the 4th qtr is ridiculous. And just coming out and saying my bad the next day doesn’t cut it.
We’re talking about the HEAD COACH for crying out loud.
3rd qtr play calling was awful.
September 15th, 2009 at 5:09 pm
Jhill, there is NO DOUBT, we got out coached and out “physicalled” at the beginning of the 2nd half. No doubt. That is something that has to radically change. We out coached and out “physicalled” them early, and you saw what happened.
One thing that I will give credit to SD, they scooped up Ron Rivera the second that Chicago let him go. SD fired Cottrell gave it to Rivera, and their defense played MUCH better the rest of the year. Chicago’s defense has been much worse without Rivera. We are going to have to counter that.
September 15th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
3rd and 12 on that final drive …
dump off to Sproles for 15 yards.
UNBELIEVABLE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 15th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
You’ve heard it before.
Prevent defense prevents you from winning.
Cable’s just now figuring that out?
D coordinator just now figuring it out?
Of course, Ryan never figured it out.
September 15th, 2009 at 5:12 pm
Richochet Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
See? I should charge you guys for me stopping by.
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rack-o don’t gloss yourself, just show us your boobs.
September 15th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
JHill,
Keep shining the light on that truth like you have.
Cable and his staff has to step it up. They lost that game period.
Can’t be losing games because coaches don’t know what to do.
Personally, I wish Cable would let Tollner call the plays and Cable focus on both sides of the ball
That defense changed at the end due to calls made from the sidelines. I am so sick and tired of that.
You want the lead with less than 2 minutes and 80 yards to drive.
But you knew deep down in your soul that the Raider defense was going to go soft and blow the game. And they did….AGAIN!
September 15th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
Maybe they consider you cheap entertainment?
September 15th, 2009 at 5:14 pm
Of the last 5 things I’ve posted, over a week’s time, only one has shown up. Weird.
September 15th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
RaiderTW Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
Ricochet,
There is no point in conversing with you.
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You guys just learning this? No esponse is the best response.
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130 posts on this thread so far.
RaiderTW has ONE POST on this thread..one..only one.
Directed to me, lol.
See? I should charge you guys for me stopping by.
I mean, look at those who come out from the shadows just to comment?
Beeechem for one..5 threads..in a row..hundreds and hundreds of posts..and on all 5 threads he signed on to post once..to me.
Doesn’t that kind of make…you…wonder? lol..
OH..and they don’t post TO ME, they post to others, indirectly, about me..almost with a “don’t pick on me” attitude.
You guys are just as special as you can be…really are.
September 15th, 2009 at 5:18 pm
How do you argue with that?
Can you? Do YOU DARE??
Anyone? Can anyone state they believe that had you had a different qb behind center, that you wouldn’t have easily won yesterday?
I think you would have, bad coaching or not.
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Richochet:
That comment that Tom Tolbert made today on KNBR was utterly brainless?
“If Philip Rivers was QB for the Raiders last night, the Raiders win 31-10″.
Ooooh, what a profound statement!!
Really? Wow!
Wow, so you mean if Joe Montana was QB for the 40-whiners instead of Alex Smith for the past 4-5 years, the Whiners would have won more games????
No way! Really?
Man, what a pointless comment.
Right now, we have a talented QB starting his 2nd full season of football. (21 games to be exact).
Yes, we don’t have Philip Rivers (a fantastic proven QB with 5 years of experience).
So, what’s the point?
Russell is learning, and he’s growing. And we’re gonna take our lumps along with him.
Get over it.
Let me ask you this: When J-Russ last touched the ball last night, did the Raiders take the lead or not?
Is that not the bottom line? Does anything he did prior to that matter at that point? NO. He did what he had to do for his team to put the game away when it most mattered.
Say all you want about how open Murphy was on that 57 yard pass. The bottom line is that in crunch time, when there’s incredible pressure on you to make a play on 4th down, the majority of the QB’s in the league don’t make that play.
Russell did.
So, go get yourself a clue.
September 15th, 2009 at 5:23 pm
Do you know how absolutely pathetic Jim Plunkett looked for 3 1/2 quarters in so many games throughout his career?
I’ll answer for you – a ton.
But guess what – despite throwing 5 picks, JP would make the play that mattered in the end.
Winning ugly is a beautiful thing.
And J-Russ did what he needed to do when it mattered most last night.
September 15th, 2009 at 5:23 pm
I think we played good not great. We were competative. At this point I will take that. We are still a young team and young teams make mistakes. Players and coaches both. I can live with this loss and why? Because we were not blown out, and I didn’t think we would score on 4th and however many.
Next week is KC and we will win. We are a better team than KC. Are we better than SD? I think we are getting there. We are also better than Denver, so I can truly say I’m not scared of how we finished or didn’t. I’m not judging anyone not even the coaches. We were not embarassed and that was a huge step for this team.
September 15th, 2009 at 5:23 pm
jhill Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
3rd and 12 on that final drive …
dump off to Sproles for 15 yards.
UNBELIEVABLE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I just about left after that. Cable and company are terrible game day managers.. They are good in preparation and all that…but horrible game day managers so far.
And now he is entertaining Fargas taking reps from Bush and DHB taking reps from Murphy.
Cable just needs to use common sense..
BTW, Fargas doesn’t run in that TD like Bush did on 3rd down. Bush followed blocks and ran with vision. Fargas just runs into the back of the left guard and gets stood up.
Cable has me concerned!
September 15th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
jhill Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
You notice how you rarely, if EVER reply to the comments?
Notice how you’re always reduced to stupid little takes like above?
Notice how, of all the posters here, you’re called IDIOT more than anyone else?
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I CAN NOT BELIEVE YOU JUST POSTED THAT!
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First off, peanut, shut up. You’re almost at the “need to raise your hand before speaking” stage.
Unlike Oakwimp, I always reply to comments directed at me. If someone points out something I missed in the barrage of posts, I then reply to it. YOU? You skirt most issues with some lame ‘can’t be bothered” comment.. I.E. just got your assed handed to you, and you relize it best to beg off..
As far as the comment directed at OakGirl?
Guy routinely avoids backing up his comments..routinely gets slapped down by his fellow raider fans..and routinely is called an idiot because he comes across as an idiot.
Now, by YOUR admission, you think I’m Jerry, or any one of numerous local, well respected pundits of the press..so save the ‘duh, I’s tinks you’s an idiot” whimper..not going to wash.
Hey, you’re the tool who stated “I’m giving Russell a pass”..makes you a full blown lemming..same lemming who still thinks Al is a wonderful football mind, and who doesn’t make any mistakes.
In other words, you’re second on that “I’s dumber dan cotton” list..right along with your buddy in denseness, OakDuh.
September 15th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
The loss was on the Coaches with that lame prevent flacid Defense, period end of story.
At least the fat man has the cajones to admit they (Coaches) screwed the pooch, and will correct the play calling on D.
Russell has A LOT of room for improvement no doubt, but he did make some damn nice passes. He needs Chaz back in a bad way.
The one thing I really liked, was the fact the TEAM played hard and competed for 60 minutes.
Seymour is going to make our Defense feared again, makes everyone better.
September 15th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
Ms. Richochet how are you doing this fine evening????
In here with the boys talking football. the typical they write em you correct em routine. Very nice very nice indeed…. I will tell you Ms. Richochet you do know your football, and you are an accomplished writer.
I hope the guys on this blog accept you for “who” you are and dont discriminate because you are a female…
You have certainly taken this Raider blog to a new level….
Enjoy Ms. Richochet…Oh i almost forgot it may have slip past you seeing that I am not one of you favorite posters, the questions i asked from the past blog entries you failed to answer them, Its okay I understand if you dont want your identity revealed. You have to admit this blog is a lot of fun…You are an even bigger celebrity than in person. You get to hammer the men without impunity….
September 15th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
Silver-n-Smac Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 5:18 pm
Richochet:
That comment that Tom Tolbert made today on KNBR was utterly brainless?
“If Philip Rivers was QB for the Raiders last night, the Raiders win 31-10″.
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Of course, what people don’t remember is Rivers held out his rookie year and did not even PLAY til his 3rd year in the league. Now granted, he is very accurate and has done some good things for them, but he is 6 years in the league. Again it’s hard to compare a guy making his 18th NFL start to a guy 6 years in the league.
September 15th, 2009 at 5:27 pm
909RaiderLifer,
Cable and the coaches can’t come out here and say “my-bad” They did that last year a couple of times too.
Also, I hope we don’t read that Russell is going to visit with Cable to lobby Bush get more carries.
i am sick of hearing about Cable trying to force feed Fargas into the running game.
BTW, Michael Bush is the best running back on the team
September 15th, 2009 at 5:29 pm
Cable seems to love guys with a certain personality. I keep hearing DHB is such a good kid. That’s fine. But he is not shown to this point that he is ready to be the everydown guy.
Play Murphy.
Why do we have sit up here and plead this organization and coaching staff to do the common sense.
Pleaded to get D-Line help for years! Finally get it and see what happened!
Pleaded to get Bush more touches and DMAC in the game
Pleaded to get the young receivers in the game last yr.
Now we are pleading again to play the BEST PLAYERS.
What is it with Cable and nursing these lesser talents!
Get with it man.
I swear…if Adrian Peterson were here….he still would be platooning with LaMont Jordan and Justin Fargas.
I am tired of hearing this stuff. Play Bush and Murphy and call it the day.
Perhaps call a screen pass or two also!
Not happy with the game management skills of the coaching
September 15th, 2009 at 5:29 pm
SnB….
Fargas should only be used in the 4th qtr. When we have a 14 point or better lead to eat up the clock.
September 15th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
So we kept 7 WRs on the roster and DHB is out there as a starter? I know the big man in the booth is mandating that DHB starts but, come on. It’s ok to be high on him but admit he’s out of his element right now. Give him a little more time and play the other guys who are eager to get out on the field.
September 15th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
Cable seems to love guys with a certain personality. I keep hearing DHB is such a good kid. That’s fine. But he is not shown to this point that he is ready to be the everydown guy.
Play Murphy.
Why do we have sit up here and plead this organization and coaching staff to do the common sense.
Pleaded to get D-Line help for years! Finally get it and see what happened!
Pleaded to get Bush more touches and DMAC in the game
Pleaded to get the young receivers in the game last yr.
Now we are pleading again to play the BEST PLAYERS.
What is it with Cable and nursing these lesser talents!
Get with it man.
I swear…if Adrian Peterson were here….he still would be platooning with LaMont Jordan and Justin Fargas.
I am tired of hearing this stuff. Play Bush and Murphy and call it the day.
Perhaps call a screen pass or two also!
Not happy with the game management skills of the coaching.
September 15th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
Oaklglenn:
There wasn’t supposed to be a question mark after my post. Tom Tolbert’s comment WAS brainless.
As you said, how can you even compare a guy like Rivers who is in the prime of his career with Russell, a young kid in his QB infancy???
Hell, he’s only 23 years old for crying out loud.
Let’s see if Richo responds.
September 15th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
Kudos to Cable for stepping up and taking some of the blame along with the rest of the coaching staff for how they played defense in the last 10 minutes of that game.
Anytime you play not to lose, rarely do you actually win. Hopefully this staff remembers that in the future.
I was impressed with the way the team looked last night and I think Cable is doing a good job. Much better than I expected. I liked a lot of the playcalling, such as running on 3rd and 3 on the Bush TD when SD couldn’t stop the run. And the reverse to JLH was a brilliant call.
Most coaches would put the loss all on their players. I’ll bet stepping up and taking some of the blame for the coaches will earn him some respect in that locker room. At least, it should anyway.
September 15th, 2009 at 5:32 pm
Silver-n-Smac Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 5:18 pm
How do you argue with that?
Can you? Do YOU DARE??
Anyone? Can anyone state they believe that had you had a different qb behind center, that you wouldn’t have easily won yesterday?
I think you would have, bad coaching or not.
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Richochet:
That comment that Tom Tolbert made today on KNBR was utterly brainless?
“If Philip Rivers was QB for the Raiders last night, the Raiders win 31-10″.
Ooooh, what a profound statement!!
Really? Wow!
Wow, so you mean if Joe Montana was QB for the 40-whiners instead of Alex Smith for the past 4-5 years, the Whiners would have won more games????
No way! Really?
Man, what a pointless comment.
Right now, we have a talented QB starting his 2nd full season of football. (21 games to be exact).
Yes, we don’t have Philip Rivers (a fantastic proven QB with 5 years of experience).
So, what’s the point?
Russell is learning, and he’s growing. And we’re gonna take our lumps along with him.
Get over it.
Let me ask you this: When J-Russ last touched the ball last night, did the Raiders take the lead or not?
Is that not the bottom line? Does anything he did prior to that matter at that point? NO. He did what he had to do for his team to put the game away when it most mattered.
Say all you want about how open Murphy was on that 57 yard pass. The bottom line is that in crunch time, when there’s incredible pressure on you to make a play on 4th down, the majority of the QB’s in the league don’t make that play.
Russell did.
So, go get yourself a clue.
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First off..you missed the whole premiss of the comment…DURING LAST NIGHTS GAME.
Not ‘all season”..not “pick a game”..comment was that if you switched Rivers and Russell for the game last night, and everything else was the same, Raiders easily win.
And would the Niners have won more games if Montana was qb’ing instead of Smith? ARE YOU SERIOUS?
YOU ACTUALLY DON’T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT? With the exception of maybe a couple of teams, with Montana behind center? GUARANTEED THE TEAM WOULD DO BETTER.
Dude..next time don’t pick the best qb, EVER, in the NFL for an example. Idiot comparison..OF COURSE THE NINERS WOULD HAVE WON MORE.
You don’t think pin point throws, right on target win games? No, it doesn’t mean a team gets in the playoffs, but being one of the best, ever, on 3rd down conversions makes a difference. Being one of the very best in 4th qtr. comebacks makes a difference.
You want the point? YOU MISSED IT?? I just repeated it..your qb COST YOU THE GAME. Not marginally, not “well if this had happened”..his horrible off target throws, and bad decisions cost YOU THE GAME.
As far as if the Raiders were ahead by LESS THAN A SCORE?
oh..you mean..instead of being ahead by 3 scores? Except Russell sucked so bad that a miss firing, bumbling SD team only needed one score to win?
The question is…DID THE PLAYER DO HIS JOB??
No, Russell didn’t.
Ok..try this..did the player do WELL ENOUGH TO WIN?
obviously, HE DIDN”T.
Game is 60 minutes. Russell’s 44 rating, and his 12 of 30 passing..that awesome 40% completion % IS WHY YOU LOST.
You sound like a clueless fool running the “Oh, he sucked..but can’t blame all of those really really bad throws…let’s BLAME THE DEFENSE, WHO PLAYED A REALLY SOLID GAME..WHO WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE RAIDERS EVEN HAVING A SHOT AT THE END..LET’S NOT BLAME THE CRAPPY QB.
What a sorry take.
September 15th, 2009 at 5:35 pm
Equal opportunist Thec …
September 15th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
Where is good’ol Richochet?
As usual, he/she/it has difficulty responding when I completely bash his “logic”.
September 15th, 2009 at 5:37 pm
I said this a couple of years ago: this team HAS TO LEARN HOW TO WIN. You don’t just win, you have to know how to win. You have to do the things it TAKES TO WIN! At the appropriate times of the game, YOU HAVE TO BEAT YOUR MAN, AND MAKE PLAYS TO WIN! At 2:40 we did that. At 2:20 til the end of the game, they did. They won.
September 15th, 2009 at 5:39 pm
Bell and DM looked great.
If it ain’t broke…..
September 15th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
We are going to molest the chiefs. If Russell can play better. then We will win more games. Remember that Russell threw more TD then rivers. YES THAT WAS A TOUCHDOWN.
September 15th, 2009 at 5:41 pm
Nice little rivalry with Oak and Mista.
I gotta disagree on Oakglenn regarding the economy improving. All we see so far are companies reporting higher profits because they’re laying off employees and cutting expenses.
Bottom line, the media heads want us to believe the recession is over. Why? So that consumers will continue spending money and companies will continue advertising.
If you think things are improving, heres an interesting article which outlines the headlines from the NY Times in 1930. 1929, the stock market crashes, just as it did in 2008. 1930, things start to look great again, just like in 2009. Its funny, but the headlines from 1930’s look eerily similar to the headlines we see today. Funny thing is, economy totally fell off a cliff after these same headlines.
http://www.businessinsider.com/henry-blodget-the-greatest-suckers-rally-in-history-play-by-play-2009-9#february-2-1930-market-recovering-faster-than-expected-1
September 15th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
Oakglenn Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 5:34 pm
SnS, hopefully rack-o will just show us her rack. That’s all we’re interested in from her.
jhill Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 5:35 pm
Equal opportunist Thec …
Silver-n-Smac Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
Where is good’ol Richochet?
As usual, he/she/it has difficulty responding when I completely bash his “logic”.
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You men are uncouth and need to be tamed by Ms. richochet. thats why she enjoys putting you men in their proper place….
Ms. Richochet, I apologize for my uncouth raider bretheren…lol…..They dont know how to treat a real women form the media like you…..
September 15th, 2009 at 5:43 pm
I’ll Give Russel 2 years before he leaves the NFL…2 years too long.
September 15th, 2009 at 5:45 pm
3 for 18 passing??? Who cares how many more touchdowns he threw, Ryan Leaf can throw better than that.
September 15th, 2009 at 5:45 pm
Silver-n-Smac Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
Where is good’ol Richochet?Silver-n-Smac Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
Where is good’ol Richochet?
As usual, he/she/it has difficulty responding when I completely bash his “logic”.
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As usual, you’re wrong.
Look a couple of posts ABOVE your post.
Then apologize for running into walls.
As usual, he/she/it has difficulty responding when I completely bash his “logic”.
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As usual, you’re wrong.
Look a couple of posts ABOVE your post.
Then apologize for running into walls.
September 15th, 2009 at 5:47 pm
Russel did play lousy last night.
He had that deer in the headlights look before he put on his helmet to start the game.
Hope that goes away soon.
If you’re a professional quarterback throwing is what you do.
You should be able to hit the running bulls-eye with amazing accuracy.
There should not be nights where he can’t throw.
How many years has he played this game?
He made some decent plays, though.
I think he needs to practice more.
Where’s Pat Morita when you need him?
September 15th, 2009 at 5:47 pm
ESPN and even Golic were gushing all night over how the Raiders D looked amazing.
Repeatedly they stated how they hadn’t seen they formations since the 70s and 80s but that they WORKED.
Oakland with Seymour beat the living **** outa SD olde school man on man and sent alot of their guys to the locker room last night and to the trainers today.
IF they can keep the intesity up, it could be a good thing…
September 15th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
Wish we could’ve won, but man, it was pretty amazing…
DOMINATING LOSS
http://www.raidernationstation.com/2009_regular_season
September 15th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
Odd board. Whenever you START to type a reply is when it’s noted in the server..then upon posting, it inserts it at that time frame.
Interesting..still odd.
here, Theac..hate for you to get inferiority complexes.
I replied to you, but it jumped a few posts above your pleas for acknowledgement.
Never have it be said I ignored the masses, or the minions.
Richochet Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 5:35 pm
Thec07 Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 5:32 pm
Jhill, with all due respect you should not Insult Ms. Richochet, by insinuating that she is jerry. Ms. Richochet has better hair, highlights, and figure…
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Thec07 Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 5:38 pm Ms. Richochet you know its not becoming or lady like to lie. I asked you a couple of questions today and never once did you answer or respond…. I could bring them up if you like???????
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Oh yeah..I laughed my ass off reading something late last night..on how you got your panties all in a bunch, thinking I was “ignoring you’ lol.
Fortunately for you, you had already stated you’re going to bed..however, was still sweet as all get out that you felt compelled to reference me, once again.
Hell yeah, by all means, bring what it is that obsesses you so..I hate to see someone all flustered, having your eye liner run.
Bring it, missy.
September 15th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
Richochet Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 5:35 pm
Thec07 Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 5:32 pm
Jhill, with all due respect you should not Insult Ms. Richochet, by insinuating that she is jerry. Ms. Richochet has better hair, highlights, and figure…
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Thec07 Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 5:38 pm Ms. Richochet you know its not becoming or lady like to lie. I asked you a couple of questions today and never once did you answer or respond…. I could bring them up if you like???????
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Oh yeah..I laughed my ass off reading something late last night..on how you got your panties all in a bunch, thinking I was “ignoring you’ lol.
Fortunately for you, you had already stated you’re going to bed..however, was still sweet as all get out that you felt compelled to reference me, once again.
Hell yeah, by all means, bring what it is that obsesses you so..I hate to see someone all flustered, having your eye liner run.
Bring it, missy.
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Ms. Richochet, Obsessed…hardley, but you are highly amusing… I love it when women try as they might becuase of certain ineffcientsies try to measure up to a man…. I really enjoy your writing, and i am sure my raider brothers do to. Females bashing men is nothing new… Most lesbians hate men, I am sure you are know diffrent. not that I am questioning your sexual preference mind you, but i must say yu should do what pleases you. But i do find it very amusing, you really keep me in stiches…. Oh panties naw I like boxer briefs keeps the thrid leg free. But off course you wouldnt know about that right…..But then again plastic or rubber may suit you well…
September 15th, 2009 at 5:52 pm
“Cable indicated, however, that when Schilens returns, he would likely cut into Louis Murphy’s snaps rather than Heyward-Bey’s.”
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Of course, I figured that. That is exactly the kind of Al Davis nonsense that has got to stop!
September 15th, 2009 at 5:52 pm
weaselbit Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 5:47 pm
Russel did play lousy last night.
He had that deer in the headlights look before he put on his helmet to start the game.
Hope that goes away soon.
If you’re a professional quarterback throwing is what you do.
You should be able to hit the running bulls-eye with amazing accuracy.
There should not be nights where he can’t throw.
How many years has he played this game?
He made some decent plays, though.
I think he needs to practice more.
Where’s Pat Morita when you need him?
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You think “wax on, wax off” will help?
September 15th, 2009 at 5:53 pm
Richo,
You are so utterly clueless.
Are you kidding me man? Russell didn’t do enough to win the game?
Look moron – the last time he touched the ball, the Score was 20-17 with 2 1/2 minutes to play. It doesn’t matter one bit what he did prior to that.
He made the play to put his team up when it ultimately mattered.
You’re such a fool. Don’t insult my intelligence clown.
And uh, yeah, the point was that Tolbert’s comment is ludicrous. It’s so easy to proclaim that a more experienced QB would have led the Raiders to victory last night.
Guess what – Rivers isn’t our QB. J-Russ is. And the only way he improves is by sucking it up for the majority of a ball game and making a play in crunch time.
And that’s what he did.
I don’t need to be told that we would have won the freakin’ game if Philip Rivers or Joe Montana or Tom Brady was our QB last night.
Again – a completely brainless comment.
And you defending it further illustrates your ineptitude.
September 15th, 2009 at 5:55 pm
An earlier comment was made that Morrison is fast, but not smart to be a middle line backer. JaMarcus has a strong arm, but he is a deer in head light. It amazing how these couch coaches comment on people intellect and can’t do any better. You never could be a pro, so just sit back and enjoy the progress the team made. Lot’s of people are blaming the
Ref’s and JaMarcus. Who threw both passes to Murphy, Genuises?
September 15th, 2009 at 5:56 pm
Richochet Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
Odd board. Whenever you START to type a reply is when it’s noted in the server..then upon posting, it inserts it at that time frame.
Interesting..still odd.
here, Theac..hate for you to get inferiority complexes.
I replied to you, but it jumped a few posts above your pleas for acknowledgement.
Never have it be said I ignored the masses, or the minions.
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Wrong again, but thats okay Ms. Richochet I have been know to be nice to women, the bible does say they are the “weaker vessel”.
I just have one quetion for you, did you attend the seymour press conference?
September 15th, 2009 at 5:56 pm
Theac: Ms. Richochet, Obsessed…hardley, but you are highly amusing… I love it when women try as they might becuase of certain ineffcientsies try to measure up to a man…. I really enjoy your writing, and i am sure my raider brothers do to. Females bashing men is nothing new… Most lesbians hate men, I am sure you are know diffrent. not that I am questioning your sexual preference mind you, but i must say yu should do what pleases you. But i do find it very amusing, you really keep me in stiches…. Oh panties naw I like boxer briefs keeps the thrid leg free. But off course you wouldnt know about that right…..But then again plastic or rubber may suit you well…
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In other words, you’re toast.
Figured, lol…lemming after lemming.
I call you all ladies? So someone’s little lightbulb goes off? lol..and they say ‘oh, let’s call him one”..and the meek weak, and bleak rush to get in line?
Good you know your place. Being in the back is no shame.
Being a follower is necessary at times. If there were no followers, how to you annoint someone a leader?
Proudly stand in line, missy.
Never let it said you wasted a thought when a blank stare suffices.
Blankly stare on, Theac..you do it so well.
You may go.
September 15th, 2009 at 5:57 pm
Bolts look sick, Raiders sicker – SignOnSanDiego.com
“The Chargers lost rookie starting guard Louis Vasquez (knee) in the third quarter and that soon was followed by center Nick Hardwick being taken off in a cart, his left leg damaged. With rookie Tyronne Green inactive, that left them without another available offensive lineman.
Far be it for me to see the glass half-empty, but if these two guys are gone for the season – or a considerable length of time – that could be it for this team. These guys weren’t blocking anybody when they were healthy. To lose both starters would be catastrophic.”
http://www.boltsfromtheblue.com/2009/9/15/1032042/san-diego-chargers-links-9-15?ref=yahoo
Destroyed them last night…
September 15th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
Davis “giving away” a 2011 1st round pick was an exaple of the might Bill Belichick gettingone over on the senile Oakland owner.
Yeah…right…
After last night, Davis looked like a genius…again…
September 15th, 2009 at 6:01 pm
# KoolKell Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 5:52 pm
“Cable indicated, however, that when Schilens returns, he would likely cut into Louis Murphy’s snaps rather than Heyward-Bey’s.”
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Of course, I figured that. That is exactly the kind of Al Davis nonsense that has got to stop!
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With Higgins likely out, it looks like Shilens, Murphy and DHB once Shilens returns.
September 15th, 2009 at 6:04 pm
Ricochet, either one would probably settle him down.
They played better, but:
They were forcing the pass when the run was working. Why? Worse yet they were forcing it to the wr’s when the tight end was getting open. Underneath passes are great for building up a new qb’s confidence.
After one huge kick run back they let more happen??
Bad throws. Just bad throws.
Stupid penalties.
Mostly, they laid down when it counted. Mostly from bad coaching. Too much cushion.
Prevent defense never works.
September 15th, 2009 at 6:04 pm
Russell will get better.
Opening night jitters.
WR’s might need some Morita time too. Too many dropped.
If Seymour looks this good now wait till he gets settled and starts teaching the others.
It could happen.
September 15th, 2009 at 6:04 pm
The 4 plays that killed us:
1) The McFadden fumble. We were dominating the game, up 7-0 and near mid-field. He was going to go for another 6+ yard gain following some good blocking and coughes it up. Lost all momentum. Bush seems like a better everydown back at this stage.
2) The Murphy non-catch. Would have capped off a rugged but very effective 3 minute drill for Jamarcus and the Raiders with a TD. Officials have been calling those plays a lot tighter, regardless of what the rule is, Murphy HAS to catch that and by the rules he didn’t. Great throw and drive from Russell.
3) Thomas Howard dropping 15 yards back on 3rd and 13. WTF was that? Not only does he drop back to far, he doesn’t get his feet under him and slips as he tries to move forward. Awful play-call, and even worse instincts. What happened to the Willie Shaw “Sticks” D where the LB’s would plant themselves on the “sticks” and than move forward NOT BACKWARDS?
4) Stanford Routt’s lack of ball skills on the first of the last two TD’s. Nmamdi got turned around, but good play-call by Marshall rolling Routt over there, but only he undercuts the ball too far, shows off a worthless 6 inch vertical and than a half-hearted swipe at the ball. He has got to get at least a finger on that ball.
All in all, a lot to work with moving forward. Russell had an awful stretch in the 3rd quarter, but Higgins had one or two drops, DHB dropped both passes thrown to him (one that hit him between the 1 and 2 on his jersey), Murphy dropped the TD and D-Mac also dropped an easy pass as well. Jamarcus put together what should have been a TD drive at the end of the 1st half and a clutch TD drive to take the lead with 3 minutes to go. Needs to work on his consistancy, but his first pick was Murphy’s fault I thought for rounding out his route.
September 15th, 2009 at 6:05 pm
What is with McFadden always slipping? He would have had a huge gainer in the first quarter on a run off the edge, but he slipped and was still able to roll for 7 yards. Man if he could have kept his feet under him……….
September 15th, 2009 at 6:07 pm
Cable basically called the same game as when Fargas was starting.
1st down Dive up the middle
2nd down Dive up the middle
Did Not avail himself of the talents of the new starter, on the edges.
But, the Coaches are so bound & gagged by Al Davis’ storied traditions, heritages.
September 15th, 2009 at 6:07 pm
KiwiRaider Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
Richochet Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
I saw the worst.
I must have sneezed and missed the best.
What..uh…what was it that was his best?
Seriously.
I want to view his best, hoping it balances out his worst.
Can’t wait for this one..should be fun.
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hello pee-wee , how are you !!take your prosack pills today??
oh russell was bad there is no way around that , some really simple passes that the backup gradkowski was even making.
But what I said was we saw the best and worst of WHAT HE CAN DO (not his best .period) a taste of what he can do when firing.
The moment you sneezed or were on your knees in a compromising position?? Was 4th and what 15 I think and he threw a 57 yard touchdown pass to take us into the lead with 2.45 on the clock.. Did you not think when you finished on your knees, where the 7 extra points on the scoreboard had come from??
you being a senile negative man that you, are can only see the bad things !!
its to be expected !!
September 15th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
Al step in a tell cable Bush don’t lose none of his carries to fargas are you kidding me he already has matched fargas 08 total.
September 15th, 2009 at 6:09 pm
Richochet:
Can you not answer a simple question that’s been asked of you numerous times? WHO IS YOUR FAVORITE TEAM?
September 15th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
# Nnamdi21 Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 5:57 pm
Destroyed them last night…
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One thing about the good Raider teams was opponents gotten beaten up playing those Raider teams. Last nite, the Dischargers got beaten up.
September 15th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
weaselbit Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 6:04 pm
Ricochet, either one would probably settle him down.
They played better, but:
They were forcing the pass when the run was working. Why? Worse yet they were forcing it to the wr’s when the tight end was getting open. Underneath passes are great for building up a new qb’s confidence.
After one huge kick run back they let more happen??
Bad throws. Just bad throws.
Stupid penalties.
Mostly, they laid down when it counted. Mostly from bad coaching. Too much cushion.
Prevent defense never works.
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Good take..you would be right.
I suspect the forces into the WR’s is more of Al’s doing, in that he has read all about how his #7 pick was a mistake, and he wants desperately to prove those nay-sayers wrong.
September 15th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
I saw more positive than negative last night and am optimistic about the return of RAIDER NATION.
They hate us.
We like it.
September 15th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
Oakglenn Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
# Nnamdi21 Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 5:57 pm
Destroyed them last night…
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One thing about the good Raider teams was opponents gotten beaten up playing those Raider teams. Last nite, the Dischargers got beaten up.
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Oh stop it, you mouse.
Beaten up was what happened to Higgins, fool.
Injuries to linemen’s legs aren’t getting beat up. Rolling over someone’s let, or getting your ankle stepped on, or whatever it was, isn’t what ‘beating up the other team” means.
It’s making a vicious tackle where the other guy doesn’t get up.
Making a powerful run where you take someone out. Where because of a tough hit the other guy was lost to the team…NOT from olinemen leg injuries, lol.
And you wonder why everyone calls you the board clown?
September 15th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
Line played good.
They’ll get better.
September 15th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
Richochet:
Man, you truly lack any football intelligence.
Why are you here? I’m guessing you’re somewhere between 20-26 years old. . . . .young, confident punk.
Nothing really wrong with that except that you have no idea what you’re talking about 99% of the time.
Go away dude. You’re annoying.
September 15th, 2009 at 6:23 pm
rack-o didn’t you say how easy Craptree was to sign, or that Gruden was flipping off the owners box, and both of that was a complete crock, and now you are stating that a guy going off the field on a cart while they are administering cpr is not serious?? You’re not serious. But remember rack-o no one is going to take you seriously until you strip for the camera. Oh, and buy yourself that gold fish, take up a new hobby and stop embarrassing yourself in here.
September 15th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
KiwiRaider Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
Richochet Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
I saw the worst.
I must have sneezed and missed the best.
What..uh…what was it that was his best?
Seriously.
I want to view his best, hoping it balances out his worst.
Can’t wait for this one..should be fun.
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But what I said was we saw the best and worst of WHAT HE CAN DO (not his best .period) a taste of what he can do when firing.
The moment you sneezed or were on your knees in a compromising position?? Was 4th and what 15 I think and he threw a 57 yard touchdown pass to take us into the lead with 2.45 on the clock.. Did you not think when you finished on your knees, where the 7 extra points on the scoreboard had come from??
Richochet: Ahh..the 7th grade level “on your knees” smack. In other words, you’re..what? 14? 13? Seriously..how old are you?
As far as the throw? YOU CALL THAT HIS BEST? Damn, kid, I can make that throw. You saying YOU can’t? I’m serious..that was a broken coverage TD. You understand what that means? Means the defense screwed up, and the offense gets a freeby. That’s NOT because of the qb, fool. Every qb in the NFL could have completed that, and YOU think it’s “his best’??
You ever play football?
Ever seen a game?
Ever seen a football?
I doubt it.
Now like it or not, you saying “I’ve seen his best, and his worst” and to YOU his best is a broken coverage td? MEANS THE RAIDERS ARE IN BIG…BIG…TROUBLE, lol.
September 15th, 2009 at 6:34 pm
Russell’s cool demeanor, criticized
since he arrived here, seems to be very beneficial to him on the field. Those clutch TD drives at the end of BOTH halves, don’t happen by accident. We saw that last year in the Tampa Game, when Tampa took the lead. Russell marches them back immediately to regain the lead. I’ve seen this.
September 15th, 2009 at 6:36 pm
Jamarcus is gordo!
I saw him at a Taco Truck earlier today! Pinche gordo!
September 15th, 2009 at 6:38 pm
Tom Cable: “We are who we are,…”
Translation: Al Davis is meddling.
This team is hopeless until Al retires.
September 15th, 2009 at 6:42 pm
Richochet Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
Richochet: Ahh..the 7th grade level “on your knees” smack. In other words, you’re..what? 14? 13? Seriously..how old are you?
As far as the throw? YOU CALL THAT HIS BEST? Damn, kid, I can make that throw. You saying YOU can’t? I’m serious..that was a broken coverage TD. You understand what that means? Means the defense screwed up, and the offense gets a freeby. That’s NOT because of the qb, fool. Every qb in the NFL could have completed that, and YOU think it’s “his best’??
You ever play football?
Ever seen a game?
Ever seen a football?
I doubt it.
Now like it or not, you saying “I’ve seen his best, and his worst” and to YOU his best is a broken coverage td? MEANS THE RAIDERS ARE IN BIG…BIG…TROUBLE, lol.
I am 7, and a healthy weight!! not the richochet endomorph frame.
you could not make that throw !!
You couldn’t throw the remote at the TV when Crabtree is mentioned,
You couldn’t throw away your rubbish
You couldn’t throw a party !!
You couldn’t throw up your foot long subway !!
Read it again lard !!
what I said was we saw the best and worst of WHAT HE CAN DO
what – he – can – do
(not his best period..)
a taste of what he can do when he gets it right ..
spin it however you want , you can say every catch is actually a failed defensive assignment , but never a good throw or a great catch.
David tyree didn’t make a great catch , the defense failed there assignment ???
Oakland made a great play and all you (the most arrogant negative internet recluse) can say is that it had nothing to do with Oakland and that it was all the chargers fault….
Like where do you draw the line, its not the QB ?? – what so the ball in his hand didnt get thrown from the arm even though that arm is attached to his body.
And Murphy didn’t blitz passed the defence and take a catch over his shoulder to put the raiders up in a clutch situation, in a massive game..
I see why you’re the rupaul of this site, all over the show !!
Have I ever seen a football (now who is the school kid)
that is week like 7 days pal . or is it Gal ??
September 15th, 2009 at 6:45 pm
Russell sucks,..Kell maybe one day you will start blaming the players, not the owner,..but you are a very limited, narrow minded man, so doubt you can grasp that.
September 15th, 2009 at 6:45 pm
2nd Re-Post:
Richochet,
You are so utterly clueless.
Are you kidding me man? Russell didn’t do enough to win the game?
Look moron – the last time he touched the ball, the Score was 20-17 with 2 1/2 minutes to play. It doesn’t matter one bit what he did prior to that.
He made the play to put his team up when it ultimately mattered.
You’re such a fool. Don’t insult my intelligence clown.
And uh, yeah, the point was that Tolbert’s comment is ludicrous. It’s so easy to proclaim that a more experienced QB would have led the Raiders to victory last night.
Guess what – Rivers isn’t our QB. J-Russ is. And the only way he improves is by sucking it up for the majority of a ball game and making a play in crunch time.
And that’s what he did.
I don’t need to be told that we would have won the freakin’ game if Philip Rivers or Joe Montana or Tom Brady was our QB last night.
Again – a completely brainless comment.
And you defending it further illustrates your ineptitude.
September 15th, 2009 at 6:46 pm
Are you still here ???
LOL!
I see you STILL haven’t answered the questions.
I wonder if you have noticed how many people have called you things other than Ricochet. Is there ANY doubt that YOU are the most …..
Ehhhh … Never mind!
September 15th, 2009 at 6:48 pm
If you think ol rich isnt a raider fan youre wrong.
September 15th, 2009 at 6:49 pm
Yo MR,
Seriously, do you think Al has cause to fire Cable yet?
I mean, Al can’t be too happy with Cable publicly questioning his end of game tactics.
What do you think Al is going to do about this?
September 15th, 2009 at 6:49 pm
So our O-lines and D-lines were obviously better than the Chargers, so what is the problem?
Coaching? LB’s? QB?
September 15th, 2009 at 6:49 pm
check my last post guys , apparently j-russ didnt even make a good play , it was all the chargers doing
and richocet can make that throw ???
September 15th, 2009 at 6:53 pm
What’s the matter Racko-chette:
I thought you responded to ALL posts addressed to you!
September 15th, 2009 at 6:57 pm
Im hoping Russell plays like hes been playing at KC,..and vs Denver,…then maybe Al will let Cable sit him. Gradkowski needs to start!!!
September 15th, 2009 at 6:59 pm
Richocheese,
Is it bed time already?
September 15th, 2009 at 7:00 pm
he fell off his chair and the crain is two blocks away !!
September 15th, 2009 at 7:02 pm
# Norco Bob Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 6:57 pm
Im hoping Russell plays like hes been playing at KC,..and vs Denver,…then maybe Al will let Cable sit him. Gradkowski needs to start!!!
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You know. . . .Norco. . . .
There were a few dudes a few rows above me last night booing Russell and begging for Gradkowski to finish the game.
I looked up at them and told them to shut the bleep up and asked them if they truly wanted a back-up QB to be our QB. There’s a reason back-ups are back-ups.
2 minutes later, Russell came in and threw a 57 yard touchdown to put us in position to win the game.
I looked back up at those fellas and all they could do is look away.
Every one of them knew how utterly lame they were and how band-wagon their behavior was.
September 15th, 2009 at 7:03 pm
As a gambler I went 3-1 week one lost the bears game took Raiders and points Dallas and the easist game Seattle. I jumped on todays opening line Raiders +3.5 this is a gift. KC is one of the worst teams in the NFL, Offensive line is brutal. Take this to the bank Raiders win no problem. I am not betting from the Heart I watched the KC game for 3 quarters they were so beat up by the Ravens. I will never post again if I lose this game. $500 easy money
September 15th, 2009 at 7:05 pm
Vegas,
Its coaching. The playcalling in the 3rd fot the offense and 4th for the defense was the difference.
September 15th, 2009 at 7:10 pm
Jamarcus is only 23! Give him a chance!
September 15th, 2009 at 7:11 pm
He showed real poise out there. He was taliing to the defense on the field before the last drive. He cares! And he will be REALLY good in 3 years.
September 15th, 2009 at 7:12 pm
Yes. I meant to say something about that. What happened to Ike E? Did he play at all? Cause thats the only way SD stayed in the game was on STs.
September 15th, 2009 at 7:13 pm
I haven’t seen any comments about our kickoff return coverage, allowing Sproles to run back 65 and 59 yard returns (approximately?) and giving the dischargers more than excellent field position…cost us the game…just as much as that “stupid-ass-prevent-crap” that Davis (probably) forced the DC to play in the closing minutes of the game.
Also, everyone in the world could see what the dischargers were doing…EVERY FREAKING PLAY…drop off to Sproles who would remain as a blocker for 3 or 4 seconds. WHERE IN THE WORLD WAS CABLE AND HIS STAFF…COULDN’T THEY SEE THAT AND CHANGE UP OR PUT A SPY TO MIRROR SPROLES….NO, NO WAY, THAT WOULD BE TOO EASY AND IT WOULD BE THE THING TO DO. BUT WE DO THINGS THE DAVIS WAY AND OUR COACHES DON’T REACT IF IT’S CONTRACT TO WHAT DAVIS DICTATES. That’s my take. Sure, Russell sucked last night, we’ll give him a few games. And, even Cable says DHB needs a long, long, long way to go.
September 15th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
SnB,
Not only was the play-calling bad on D in the 4th, the team was completely out of sync. Case in point, on the last drive, the Raiders left Gates completely uncovered and Rivers just hiked the ball and threw a 2 yard pass to Gates that went for 12. How you can you allow that to happen at that stage in the game. I would have liked to see them call a TO after one of the plays when Chargers went out of bounds. Got to get everyone on the same page.
September 15th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
We had them on a 4th and 13 and we allow Sproles to run for 15 or 17 freaking yards from a drop off…AGAIN. What the hell were our linebackers thinking, or our coaches if that’s what they were instructing…Incredible, unbelievable and sickening.
September 15th, 2009 at 7:17 pm
Good points Riverside …
Sproles was like: “what, they are not blitzing an extra guy? Don’t they know we are on a backup C and RG? Oh well, guess I’ll just hang out around the line.”
Rivers: “Is that 43 sitting there by himself?”
September 15th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
SnB
I hear you on the DHB vs Murphy thing.
I think we are going to see plenty of Murphy AND Nick Miller.
Top 4 WRs are going to be Chaz, DHB, Murphy, and Miller.
My prediction for next disgruntled Raider to leave the team and talk shyt …. Johnnie Lee Higgins!
September 15th, 2009 at 7:21 pm
The threw to JLH 5 times, no completions. His punt returns were excellent, though.
September 15th, 2009 at 7:24 pm
Cable said that DHB has deer eyes. That’s true, his eyes were so wide open you could drive a jeep through them. The dude was “scared-to-death.”
September 15th, 2009 at 7:28 pm
Murphy gets it right now. All the talk around DHB is about potential and all that stuff. That’s great and all…by Russell does not have the luxury of waiting around for a receiver to develop. he’s fighting for his career right now and needs players that produce.
DHB should be benched and only used sparingly once Chaz gets back. In fact, I would go ahead and put Walker or JLH ahead of him. You can’t have a receiver go games without a reception. That’s play 10 on 11.
DHB has to learn to run routes, catch the ball and play with poise. He does none of that right now.
September 15th, 2009 at 7:29 pm
On the beach in Cancun Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
We had them on a 4th and 13 and we allow Sproles to run for 15 or 17 freaking yards from a drop off…AGAIN. What the hell were our linebackers thinking, or our coaches if that’s what they were instructing…Incredible, unbelievable and sickening.
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I know the play-call was bad, but what about the lack of instincts by Howard? He just drifted backwards, than wasn’t prepared to move forward, so he slips as he tries to move up. Did he not see Sproles coming into the middle of the field? Shouldn’t he know where the first down marker is? WTF WAS HE DOING!!!!!!!!
September 15th, 2009 at 7:31 pm
But, Darrius Heyward-Bey is on a Solid Gold Al Davis Scholarship, baby! That’s his main pass.
September 15th, 2009 at 7:34 pm
How about mixing it up for DHB ????
How about a few quick slants or WR screens?
A reverse maybe?
Same for Murphy. Sure would like to see some different coordination from the passing game coordinator!
Tollner! WTF are you doing?
September 15th, 2009 at 7:34 pm
WTF were the LB’s playing that soft cover SH!T for to begin with… Fake wanna be a prevent when it grows up nonsense….
September 15th, 2009 at 7:35 pm
How is section 114 row 5?
I can buy tickets right now for 135 each
September 15th, 2009 at 7:35 pm
Rush four got pressure early great….
front four are tired mix a blitz or 2 in, you allready had rivers frustrated. Bliz up the gut, and spy the midget with mitchell….
September 15th, 2009 at 7:37 pm
At least we got to see a little Mike Mitchell. Pretty solid tackle on the kickoff in the second half.
September 15th, 2009 at 7:38 pm
How about DHB get his head out of his A$$ use his speed get open and catch some balls. …
Cable said DHB is going to get more run than murphy when chaz comes back?
that would be a dumb move…
September 15th, 2009 at 7:38 pm
Omg Kell,..is that what you do all day on your computer?…lol…get some help bud. lol
September 15th, 2009 at 7:39 pm
DHB looks lost, and dropped a ball on the slant that hit him right between the 1 and 2. He does seem to be a decent blocker, a saw him doing a good job blocking a few times.
Problem is, he wasn’t drafted to be a good down-field blocker.
September 15th, 2009 at 7:40 pm
JHill:
In “freaking” credible! How can you let Gates and Sproles have the first ten yards for free. Has Marshall gone senile, after all he’s a thousand years old, been around since the dark-ages, since Columbus discovered American and he instructs the “DEEP-DROPS???” of our linebackers. And, where was CABLE, the head coach, couldn’t he see what was happening, play, after play, after play. Incredible!
September 15th, 2009 at 7:40 pm
Good Evening Nation.
What’s up Thec? That was ……. I feel your pain. Especially due to where we live!!
-The Defense didn’t play well the last 2 drives, and they allowed 160+ yards. They played soft, and played zone a lot! Why??!!!
September 15th, 2009 at 7:40 pm
sec 114 row 5 is next to the black hole?
September 15th, 2009 at 7:40 pm
Howard, Brown, Marshall, Eugene …
Take your pick.
That was just flat out bad defense for someone to just not point the ONE guy out who has killed is ALL NIGHT!
Who’s got 43?
WHO’S GOT THAT LITTLE MUTHAFUGGER 43 DAMN IT!
How hard was it to just identify Gates and Sproles and make someone else beat you? With the pressure we were putting on with 4 guys, you drop the LBs way off?
September 15th, 2009 at 7:42 pm
How about DHB get his head out of his A$$ use his speed get open and catch some balls. …
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LOL!
That’ll work too!
September 15th, 2009 at 7:43 pm
I can’t believe my boy Huff isn’t getting any love!
September 15th, 2009 at 7:43 pm
MR take a break and answer a quetion for me.
I am gonna go to the Jet game sec 114 row 5
are great seats, right?
September 15th, 2009 at 7:43 pm
MaddenRaider,
I agree with the theme you’ve been preaching today. That prevent defense looked exactly like it has in the past. The Raiders play scared when the game is over. Then the fans blame the offense.
You are right. This is on the coaches and the 4th QTR philosophy. There was no difference between that 4th QTR defense and Rob Ryan.
September 15th, 2009 at 7:44 pm
Whats wrong bob? I am about to spring for tickets and I am asking for some help.
September 15th, 2009 at 7:44 pm
Plunk,..dont be stupid, you can get club seats for that money.
September 15th, 2009 at 7:46 pm
Vegas,
Dead on about Routt!
I’d rather go with a 3rd S. Let Branch slide down to nickle corner, and bring Mitchell in to play with Huff.
September 15th, 2009 at 7:46 pm
Marshall needs to be fired. So we can bring on the next DC to scapegoat for Davis’s game plans. What do you guys think Cable meant when he said, “We are who we are”. He is the head coach! He decides what we are. So when he says, “we are who we are”, he’s saying that somebody else is in charge.
September 15th, 2009 at 7:46 pm
Well I live in bunghole AZ and I have no idea about seat prices or how to go about getting club seats
September 15th, 2009 at 7:47 pm
Plunk, I have a better idea,..dont give the raiders your money,…not worth it.
September 15th, 2009 at 7:49 pm
-The front 4 played Great. They rushed the passer, and helped against the run.
-The LBs did OK, and so did the Ss.
-The CBs ( Nnamdi & CJ) played great!!!! Great!!!!
-Our RBs played smash mouth football.
-Thank God For Miller!!!!
-the OLine played Well, but can do better. Much better!
-JR & the WRs were way Off!! Routes, and accuracy were a huge problem.
September 15th, 2009 at 7:51 pm
Jhill,
What the hell was that by Routt??? Seems like Marshall drew up a good play and had a man in position to make a play, only Routt not only looked unathletic going after it, the effort looked a little iffy to me as well. I’m done with him, he was ZERO BALL SKILLS.
I would agree with you on the 3rd S, ESPECIALLY, on plays like the one we are talking about, when Routt wasn’t covering anyone and was in essence playing a role of a safety.
September 15th, 2009 at 7:53 pm
why is everybody picking on the offense when it was the defense that lost the game and richochit shut up and go back to 9ers
September 15th, 2009 at 7:54 pm
JHill,
Will someone tell these guys that a lot of those passes to receivers are timing routes. THe QB throwing to a spot…the receivers having to break at the right time and trying not to sellout the route.
Someone tell these guys that Russell had little trouble hitting Miller.
Someone tell Tollner to put checkdowns on these passing plays….use the 2 tight end set once in a while…and throw a few screens!
Why wait for Bruce to get in there to throw some screens.
September 15th, 2009 at 7:59 pm
I found club seats. What section?
Heres one
Section
Row
Seats
Description 221
2
15 – 16
CLUB: Sideline
Second Deck – Mid Level
Home Team Side
West Side of Stadium
September 15th, 2009 at 7:59 pm
O, what up Bro? How u doing, havent seen you in a few. Class kickin your A$$ yet???
September 15th, 2009 at 7:59 pm
we passed out of shotgun too much for one stretch. became completely predictable and thats why the offense stalled. what happened to some screens with dmc or wheel routes? tho i like dmc he slips 2 much even when untouched. alot of our guys were slippin for some reason. lets give chris morris some credit. he looked pretty good out there.
September 15th, 2009 at 8:00 pm
with club seats plunk you have club access,…go forit,..nice bars.
September 15th, 2009 at 8:01 pm
STs was the primary reason SD was still in the game at the end. In a tight game, you give up returns like that it can kill you.
Baltimore was dominating KC all game. KC blocked a punt in the endzone – TD. Then returned an INT that set up another TD. Before you know it KC has ahead 14-10 in the 3rd quarter. And their offense did close to nothing.
The only difference between the two games is Baltimore was able to close the deal.
September 15th, 2009 at 8:02 pm
You have to give Rivers credit though. He throws SO many balls that I think are going to get picked when they leave his hand, but they just end up falling right into the receivers hands. Like that pass to Gates to set up their fist TD. That ball just fluttered in the air for 5 or 10 seconds. Knew that was a pick, but it just dropped right in there.
That play was a headbanger for me.
Another 3rd and long and Gates was WIDE OPEN ??????
September 15th, 2009 at 8:03 pm
If the offense and the defense puts forth the same effort vs KC I think the Raiders run away with the game. But they can’t sleep because as they found out – you can dominate and still lose if you aren’t careful.
September 15th, 2009 at 8:03 pm
they played with a chip on their shoulder and seymour gave them a reason too believe. we have a difference maker on the dline now. he rips thru double teams unlike our other dlineman. we have to get some backbreaking playmaking lbs next year. howard is the only true keeper of this bunch.
September 15th, 2009 at 8:03 pm
only a buffoon would spell the word “buffoon” baffoon.
September 15th, 2009 at 8:04 pm
Terp, which game was more violent, the Oak v SD,
or BALT v KC ????? How do you think the chargers matchup against BALT?
September 15th, 2009 at 8:04 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 7:54 pm
JHill,
Will someone tell these guys that a lot of those passes to receivers are timing routes. THe QB throwing to a spot…the receivers having to break at the right time and trying not to sellout the route.
Someone tell these guys that Russell had little trouble hitting Miller.
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Someone tell these guys what I ALREADY TOLD YOU..a crossing pattern to the sidelines IS NOTHING BUT A CROSSING PATTERN. Stop with the stupid crap. qb’s job is to see receivers, go through his reads, and choose which has the best chance of catching ball..WHEN YOU THROW THE BALL AND IT GOES 3 FEET OVER THEIR HEAD, it doesn’t matter who it is receiving..when a guy is on a stop and go, and is streaking down the middle..and you throw it 10 feet past him? DOESN’T MATTER WHO THE RECEIVER WAS.
Now, let me give you the BAD NEWS.
Last year? you know…LAST YEAR?? where Russell was the starting qb ALL YEAR? Where you didn’t have rookie WR’s on both sides??? RUSSELL WAS THE WORST STARTING QB IN THE NFL.
Chew on that for a bit…
September 15th, 2009 at 8:04 pm
LMAO @ 262 & 263
September 15th, 2009 at 8:04 pm
I quit drinking 17 years ago
I dont like jail.
Club seats are sold out for the game but they have a place where you buy them from the season ticket holders but some of them are pricey
September 15th, 2009 at 8:05 pm
What happened last night was even worse than getting blown out. We win the game, yet Al Davis ruins it with his prevent philosophy. Al Davis has to retire or be removed from the team somehow until the Raiders will ever have a winning season again.
September 15th, 2009 at 8:06 pm
Oakland softened the Chargers up for every opponent over the next few weeks. Then when they get some of their players back the Raiders are back in town for a little retribution. I don’t think the Chargers look forward to another matchup.
September 15th, 2009 at 8:06 pm
214 row 12
for 146 each
September 15th, 2009 at 8:06 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 7:54 pm
JHill,
Will someone tell these guys that a lot of those passes to receivers are timing routes. THe QB throwing to a spot…the receivers having to break at the right time and trying not to sellout the route.
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Yes they are, and Russell is AWFUL at it with DHB and Murphy. The timing is just not there. They shouldn’t be calling those plays. More quick slants and simple short crossing routes for the WRs.
September 15th, 2009 at 8:09 pm
Some of you need to quit crying
Sack up
September 15th, 2009 at 8:10 pm
San Diego looked like the 8-8 team from last year.
September 15th, 2009 at 8:10 pm
To save a few bucks? I could get ripped too.
I would rather grab those for sec 214 for 146 if they are great seats.
I dont want to return to bunghole bummed out
September 15th, 2009 at 8:10 pm
Plunketthead Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 7:43 pm
MR take a break and answer a quetion for me.
I am gonna go to the Jet game sec 114 row 5
are great seats, right?
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Very good seats. Around the 25 or 30 yd line.
221 is up higher, much higher..around the 10 or 15 yd line, as I recall.
Noticed the nits weren’t helping ya out..
September 15th, 2009 at 8:10 pm
It seems simple, good team find ways to win (Patriots yesterday) and bad teams find ways to lose (Raiders).
Seymour is our only hope to really turn things around on Defense at the end of games. He is not used to this BS, and no way will he accept it. Especially in a contract year.
September 15th, 2009 at 8:11 pm
Richochet:
Dude, you are truly a complete idiot.
Where shall we start?
First of all, my analogy with Montana was to prove how utterly stupid Tolbert’s comment was. Of course we would have won with Rivers last night.
Let me spell this out for you you silly little girl. Tolbert’s comment was so obvious that he may have just as well said that the Niners would have won with Montana. Like Duh. But what’s the point of making that statement? We don’t have Rivers, do we? No. We have a young QB that’s learning his way. So, why bother saying we could do better if we had Rivers. Hell, why don’t we just go across the board in the NFL each week and make that stupid analogy.
Uh. . . Let’s see. . . the Bills probably would have won last night if Payton Manning was their QB.
Uh. . . Let’s see. . . .The Niners would have probably had an easier time winning last Sunday if Tom Brady was their QB.
You get it now, fool?
And as far as the rest of the game counting. . . .that’s right fool – the rest of the game means nothing if you come back and do what you need to do in crunch time. And that’s what Russell did.
How many Raider games did you watch in the 70’s you idiot? Did you see how many times the Raiders looked like crap for 58 minutes, only to pull it out in the end?
Apparently not.
Don’t even try keeping par with real fans in here Richocheese.
You don’t have the brain or the sense for it.
Fool.
September 15th, 2009 at 8:12 pm
Chargers lose to Baltimore. Oakland just kicked their asses too much …too many players on the Oline hurt. Even the defense was getting knocked out.
It kind of reminds me of the AFC West in I think the 90s; when it was the class of the league. They used to beat each other up so much that the next opponent would get a victory gift wrapped for them.
Can’t remember the violence in the B’more game too well. Baltimore’s D always plays hard. But I distinctly remember the violence the Raiders displayed on the Chargers – so that should tell you something. (Its been a long time since I’ve seen a team battered like that.)
September 15th, 2009 at 8:12 pm
Terp, SD v Balt who wins it???
September 15th, 2009 at 8:12 pm
Thec,
I love school dude! I learn, meet people, and interact with people at diff levels!
I was hoping to get a Win ( we almost had it), so I can end this crap talking, but there is always next time.
Go Aztecs!!! Come watch a game! We are bad, but we have a fee good players. We almost won vs UCLA!
September 15th, 2009 at 8:12 pm
Go to craigslist plunk.
September 15th, 2009 at 8:13 pm
We have very talented players and very poor coaching, thanks to Al Davis. Not blitzing on defense is the stupidiest thing you can do.
Plus, we almost never run misdirection on offense. George Allen ran at least four misdirection plays a game. He was smart, we are stupid.
September 15th, 2009 at 8:14 pm
If D-mac catches the easy swing pass in the 3rd quarter, Murphy holds onto the ball for the apparent 10 seconds you have to by NFL rules these days, and DHB catches his slant pass, Russell’s stats would have been 15/30 for 240 yards, 2 TD 1 int
I know a lot of “if’s”, but it shows that he is not that far off.
September 15th, 2009 at 8:14 pm
Dam smak you are tearing ric up
September 15th, 2009 at 8:15 pm
Hey guys I think that if Cable would have run a little more in third quarter because it was working so well, we would have won. If you think about it, we only needed a total of atleast 21 seconds extra on all of our drives to win if the Chargers executed the same way they did. And was it just me, or was Routt in position to bat or intercept the ball that Jackson caught for a TD (if he did, sucks that it will count as a TD Nnamdi gave up, he gave up none last year). Russell, I think he just had a bad game but bounced back with the late long TD to Murphy and the Hail Mary, IDK what to say about it, all luck and if it was completed it would just be a fluke like the Broncos. I also liked that Mcfadden made people miss and played with power rather than going down quick. IF we stuck to man coverage, I think Sproles would have never got those crucial 2nd and 3rd down conversions our LBs would blow him up as soon as he touched the ball like Howard did before the completions. Lastly, If you go to NFL.com and go to Raider’s videos it shows how much Seymour helped, he was a big part of the Greg Ellis sack.
What do you guys think?
September 15th, 2009 at 8:15 pm
Oakland Raiders are 1-0.
Al Davis is 0-1.
September 15th, 2009 at 8:16 pm
Richochet,
Why do you spend your time here talking about a team you don’t even like? I don’t get it.
The 49ers win a tough game…wouldn’t you rather go to a 49er forum and talk positive instead of staying here and just layering the same ole tired punchline.
September 15th, 2009 at 8:17 pm
Richocheese:
Did you watch Troy Aikman as he went 1-15 his rookie year? How good did you think he was going to be then?
Richocheese:
Did you watch Peyton Manning as he went 3-13 and threw 26 picks? How good did you think he was going to be then?
Richocheese:
Did you watch Steve Young as he started out with 4 picks, 8 picks?
What did you think of of Philip Rivers as he was allowed to throw a total of 11 passes in his first start? (he was basically asked to do nothing his first year)
You impulsive morons crack me up. You watch too much TV and play on the internet entirely too long.
Try using some common sense and read the definition of “patience”
Fool.
September 15th, 2009 at 8:18 pm
terp, agreed Bro, was some really good solid hittin going on last night… Lots of violence, LB’s getting trucked. safeties hittin, and gettin blasted. Suprised sproles that midget didnt leave the game. He was taking some massive hits….
SD plays BALT Miam Pitt… Could be looking at 1-3.
September 15th, 2009 at 8:18 pm
cables playcalling has to get better especially in the 3rd qtr. this is where we are losing games. not just in the redzone but also after halftime. why didnt heybey get that reverse instead of higgins. and im sorry snb but jlh aint much better than dhb. he has dropped a ton of passes 2. there are 2 many games where there are 5-7 drops and it hurts russells % and also ends drives. russ needs to improve but he gets 2 many drops from his wrs.
September 15th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
“4 TD’s, 8 picks” – and what a coincidence that young sucked until he had legit players all around him.
September 15th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
One more thing: Those were the best looking jerseys I have ever seen. Screw the league…
September 15th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
I must be missing something but how in the hell do the pundits have SD in the super bowl?
If JRUSS was on we would have blown them out…
They seem like a finesse team….
Very soft…
September 15th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
Richocheese:
I’ll ask you for the 10th time:
Who’s your favorite team?
September 15th, 2009 at 8:21 pm
From a sharp mind name Dave Deas who blogs at bleacherreport.com:
“I can almost guarantee you Seymour spent that week on the phone with his lawyers and his agent trying to find some sort of an escape clause buried in the fine print of his contract.”
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/254333-al-davis-fools-only-the-fools-in-seymour-press-conference
September 15th, 2009 at 8:23 pm
Richocheese:
I get it.
You’re Mike Lombardi!
It’s all starting to come together.
Still bitter at good ol’ Al, huh?
Get over it.
September 15th, 2009 at 8:25 pm
I am kind of with MR on this. I was deeply disappointed with the defensive playcalling in that 4th QTR.
These veteran coaches should have known better. Those formations were terrible. Linebackers 15 yards back…and just let Rivers sit there in total comfort for the 1st time all game.
Did they not learn anything from their playcalling last year in the 4th qtr
September 15th, 2009 at 8:28 pm
Ok I will stop asking questions if I get one more answered
I will get club seats but I want the Raiders side, right?
I am going with 214 row 12
for 146 each
September 15th, 2009 at 8:30 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 8:16 pm
Richochet,
Why do you spend your time here talking about a team you don’t even like? I don’t get it.
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Don’t like?
What’s not to like?
Where else can one get this much laughter?
Where else can one be entertained by the mindless rantings of silly little boys who think wearing a pirate on their shirt makes them look “cool” or “tough”?
Where else can I prove, without a doubt, that the phrase “a mind is a terrible thing to waste” is not subscribed to by very many Raider posters?
I mean, it’s a 12 month comedy skit..what’s not to like?
Ok, let me say this, and I swear on my children that this is 100% the truth..I LOVE THAT AL DAVIS IS THE OWNER OF THE RAIDERS, AND I HOPE HE STAYS AROUND FOR ANOTHER 30 YEARS.
There..feel better?
September 15th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
Plunketthead Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 8:14 pm
Dam smak you are tearing ric up
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Oh..he knows I’m going to torch him.
As do you, lol.
His incessant nonstop posts to me, in a row, shows his frustrations.
told ya..I’m good
“it is what it is”
September 15th, 2009 at 8:32 pm
Go for it plunk…thats face value.
September 15th, 2009 at 8:33 pm
What game you doin plunk?
September 15th, 2009 at 8:35 pm
Jets Bob
September 15th, 2009 at 8:35 pm
Florida is 30 point favorites over Lane and the Vols this weekend, LOL!!!
I don’t fear those points, it should get ugly quickly
September 15th, 2009 at 8:35 pm
I0-4 bob thanks for the help I will buy them now
September 15th, 2009 at 8:37 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 8:05 pm
What happened last night was even worse than getting blown out. We win the game, yet Al Davis ruins it with his prevent philosophy.
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So once again, Al Davis is sending plays down to the sidelines to lose the game. All teams play some type of prevent. And I am sure there are not that many variations of it. Since John Marshall has been in the league 30 years, he has probably run it before once or twice, without Al Davis sending down the formations. MR you are soooo far out in left field, you might want to move on to Area 51 stuff.
September 15th, 2009 at 8:38 pm
kool aid drinkers over at raiderfans.net are throwing Russell under the bus, to excuse the prevent scheme. Defend Al Davis at all costs. Amazing.
http://www.raiderfans.net/forum/oakland-raiders-forum-message-board/155432-als-defense-beats-us-again.html
September 15th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
vegas raider Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 8:35 pm
Florida is 30 point favorites over Lane and the Vols this weekend, LOL!!!
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Bet the farm on the Gators. What is the over/under on Lane getting run???
September 15th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
Repost im not a regular poster want to know what you guys think:
Hey guys I think that if Cable would have run a little more in third quarter because it was working so well, we would have won. If you think about it, we only needed a total of atleast 21 seconds extra on all of our drives to win if the Chargers executed the same way they did.
And was it just me, or was Routt in position to bat or intercept the ball that Jackson caught for a TD (if he did, sucks that it will count as a TD Nnamdi gave up, he gave up none last year).
Russell, I think he just had a bad game but bounced back with the late long TD to Murphy and the Hail Mary, IDK what to say about it, all luck and if it was completed it would just be a fluke like the Broncos.
I also liked that Mcfadden made people miss and played with power rather than going down quick. IF we stuck to man coverage, I think Sproles would have never got those crucial 2nd and 3rd down conversions our LBs would blow him up as soon as he touched the ball like Howard did before the completions.
Lastly, If you go to NFL.com and go to Raider’s videos it shows how much Seymour helped, he was a big part of the Greg Ellis sack.
What do you guys think?
More: the Murphy TD overturned was a TD idk how many times I watched it, even though commentators agreed it was a TD. I hope DHB had Rookie and first game jitters, I don’t want him to be a bust and I want to see him get atleast 1 catch against the Chiefs.
September 15th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
Oakglenn, first you deny that Al Davis is involved with the defense, then you defend the defense. Which is it?
September 15th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
Did it count as Aso who gave up the TD? If it did, its a pity and Routt really needs to be replaced. I cant believe he had a great camp but completely sucked in the pre season and couldn’t pull through this one time.
September 15th, 2009 at 8:40 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
Oakglenn, first you deny that Al Davis is involved with the defense, then you defend the defense. Which is it?
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What are you talking about? Or have you completely finally lost it??
September 15th, 2009 at 8:40 pm
Al should give our 2012 #1 pick for Brady! This fatboy ain’t going to cut it ! If he continues to struggle it’s going to be a lOOOOONNNNggggg season!
September 15th, 2009 at 8:41 pm
I don’t get why we did not stick to man coverage but dropped our line backers 10+ yards back, howard in man really stopped sproles receptions. It was also great to see CJ hit him hard.
September 15th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
Guy,
Routt completely wiffed. Piss-poor execution and effort.
September 15th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
And, Oakglenn, there are several variations of the prevent defense. Most teams play tight enough to tackle the the guy catching the ball at the spot of the catch. Other teams that choke by way of the prevent usually do so via missing tackles. We play a prevent that’s designed to stop hail marys, when we’re only up by a field goal. You’re only fooling yourself with your excuse machine, Oakglenn.
September 15th, 2009 at 8:43 pm
2012 #1 pick & Russell for Brady? Why the hell not Al! Since you like dealing with the Pats make it happen!
September 15th, 2009 at 8:44 pm
Oakglenn, did you think that prevent defense was a better idea than the defense we used most of the night that also shut down SD’s passing game?
September 15th, 2009 at 8:47 pm
I think Tom Cable had a higher vertical when he was trying to call a TO at the end of the game, than Stanford Routt, MR track-star himself, did on the Jackson TD. I can’t get over it, it was downright awful.
September 15th, 2009 at 8:48 pm
At least Lane Kiffin tries to win. We’re stuck with a micromanaging owner who doesn’t care rather he wins or loses, just insists on using his own ideas and blaming others if they don’t work.
September 15th, 2009 at 8:49 pm
The TV commentators were commenting on the LB drops on the air, they couldn’t understand it.
Nobody in our coaching booth noticed?
September 15th, 2009 at 8:50 pm
back to Murhpy TD replay,
guys, here is a very good article by someone who usually bashes the Raiders.
http://www.contracostatimes.com/raiders/ci_13344732?nclick_check=1
the bottomline is in the Tuck game and last nite’s game we got screwed not by the opposing coach calling for a replay but by the replay booth inside 2 minute. Had both plays happened outside 2 minutes, the opposing coaches would have never challenged it. I hope the do scrap the 2 minute review iniated by the upstairs booth at some point and leave it up entirely to the opposing coach.
September 15th, 2009 at 8:50 pm
Silver-n-Smac Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 8:23 pm
Richocheese:
I get it.
You’re Mike Lombardi!
It’s all starting to come together.
Still bitter at good ol’ Al, huh?
Get over it.
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Wait.
First I’m Jerry.
Then I’m tim kawakami..then I’m Skip Bayless…then I’m Jerry again…and then again..and now I’m Lombardi.
Good news is you don’t have to worry about me being Al.
If I was Al, after posting and signing out, I would have forgotten where I posted.
That and the drool all over the keys would have given me away…
September 15th, 2009 at 8:52 pm
Stanford Routt is a huge weak link on our team. He is not a natural football player and Al goofed on this draft pick. After Nnamdi and CJ, we have a huge drop off. Now Routt can play the outside if need be but he is a liability as a nickel back on the inside.
September 15th, 2009 at 8:53 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 8:44 pm
Oakglenn, did you think that prevent defense was a better idea than the defense we used most of the night that also shut down SD’s passing game?
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the Raiders have NEVER played zone coverage well. Whether it is 2 deep, 3 deep, prevent, we always play zone pass defense poorly. We allow the receiver to catch the ball and then we tackle. We should be dropping into our zones reading the Q, and breaking on the ball. We don’t do that. But to answer your question of course, running a prevent with a 3 point lead was insane.
September 15th, 2009 at 8:56 pm
Come to our tailgate Plunk.
September 15th, 2009 at 8:57 pm
We have booze, beer, pot,….and pills,..and lots of barbeque…heavy metal.
September 15th, 2009 at 8:58 pm
Plunketthead Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 8:28 pm
Ok I will stop asking questions if I get one more answered
I will get club seats but I want the Raiders side, right?
I am going with 214 row 12
for 146 each
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WHOA..what?
What game? And why so much?
Seriously..no BS..what game you going to?
that price is too high.
September 15th, 2009 at 8:59 pm
Hopefully by the Jets game dude, Russell will be benched.
September 15th, 2009 at 9:00 pm
Club seats rich.
September 15th, 2009 at 9:01 pm
Club seats in all other stadiums range from 250 to 450 bucks per game, per seat…club seats are expensive,..but worth it, if thats your scene.
September 15th, 2009 at 9:01 pm
I had club seats for a couple years,..sat next to ricky henderson and hangin with my cooper guy.
September 15th, 2009 at 9:02 pm
Thanks for the invite, I will take you up on it.
September 15th, 2009 at 9:02 pm
my current season tix seats are 61 bucks each.
September 15th, 2009 at 9:03 pm
214 is a cool section,…you will like the west side club. nice in there,…that bracelet they give you is worth the price,..go check out east side club too, at halftime,..lots of legends there at halftime.
September 15th, 2009 at 9:04 pm
I would be embarrassed to be a white boy on 64th ave.
September 15th, 2009 at 9:10 pm
From writer Jason Cole:
“Dear ESPN analysts Steve Young and Mike Golic: You’re both great guys, but you should have watched the officiating video the NFL sent out last week in which Mike Pereira, the league’s head of officials, went over the exact situation where Oakland wide receiver Louis Murphy’s(notes) potential 19-yard touchdown in the first half was overturned. Pereira explained in detail that a receiver has to control the ball all the way to the ground for it to be a catch and that the league was emphasizing that point this season.”
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YOU probably should’ve watched the play.
It was a bull **** call. His feet and his azz were on the ground first moron.
Stop trying to piss on us and tell us its raining.
Touch down anywhere else but Raiderland.
I thought that corporate shill Periera retired.
He’s there to polish turds and cover for inept refs, bookies and his masters on high.
Some of its games look out right fixed and or staged.
If the NFL doesn’t clean up its act, I’m going elsewhere with my money.
September 15th, 2009 at 9:11 pm
Aren’t some of you embarrassed at how much of your time you spend here?
Are you paid trolls, here to stir up conflict?
September 15th, 2009 at 9:12 pm
Yeah they last thing I want to hear is Murphy and Bush taking a back seat. It’s an ego thing I guess. Cable and Al have it in their mind that these are the guys that are going to win them ball games, and even though the performance on the field shows different.
I knew from the get go, Murphy is the better of the two guys and if you go back and look at my posts I was saying that before their first OTAs. Dude is a Florida guy who’s made big catches in big games. Last night was a simply and affirmation of the talent this guy has.
And JaMarcus bashers, QB’s who had worse games have won in the NFL. Bottom line, JaMarcus threw two TDs, our return coverage was terrible, the linebackers, invisible for most of the night, because our D-line was awesome, decided to make their presence known at the wrong time…yeah coaching played a role in that, AND! If it were not for Seabass we would have lost 38-20 on two Sproils returns.
September 15th, 2009 at 9:15 pm
By “these guys” in that first paragraph I mean Fargas and DHB.
September 15th, 2009 at 9:16 pm
Oakland should try playing KC without throwing a pass,..only way they can win.
September 15th, 2009 at 9:17 pm
lol hehe
September 15th, 2009 at 9:17 pm
pps Russell really does suck.
September 15th, 2009 at 9:21 pm
Please heap your abuse on me. Its what I feel I deserve for the mess I CHOSE to let my life become. So bitter, so lonely, so deserve it…
XOXO
Norco
P.S.
Russell sucks
Cable sucks
Davis sucks
Sunlight sucks
Happiness sucks
Puppies suck
I suck
September 15th, 2009 at 9:22 pm
Nigh nigh!~
September 15th, 2009 at 9:23 pm
Ok,
I was wrong JRuss, my bad!
I just rewatched the first half and you JRuss haters are out of your mind!
Do you realize how many 3rd downs he converted?
Do you recall that drive where DMac fumbled? JRuss was NICE! dropping off to RBs, hitting the TEs, etc.
Comes right back on the next possesion and hits DHB on the numbers and dude drops it. On 3rd down, puts it right on Murphy’s hands and he drops it.
First drive should have been points except for the bad route by Murphy.
TD drive to end the half? Put the ball right on Murphy!
LOL at anyone who said that Murphy lost the ball before he hit the ground. ESPN was playing that back and forth sideways and upwards and Golic of all people was ADAMANT is was a catch!
JRuss missed on the throw to JLH on that last drive, bad. But then came right back on the next throw to Murphy for a big first down.
That first half by JRuss was as good as can be. Cable’s play calling was spot on.
DMac’s fumble, Murphy’s bad route, and the ref’s interpretation of a rule really hurt the offense.
September 15th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
Oh, I forgot about Sproles returns …
Just shouldn’t happen!
September 15th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
Sorry he got hurt but, Ha ha ha!!!
Thats so Broncos lately…needs a shower chair apparently…
“Denver Broncos linebacker Spencer Larsen(notes) will miss a few weeks after injuring his shoulder in a fall in the locker room at Cincinnati.”
Slipped in the shower…PRE GAME! LOL!
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AjQaksde8HssS5w4Wx9f_BLsYNAF?slug=ap-broncos-larsen&prov=ap&type=lgns
September 15th, 2009 at 9:29 pm
363. Spot on. The people who bish the most about J Russ either formed an opinion before or right after we drafted him and won’t let go,or don’t actually watch the games, just spew back what they read from the “media”.
He whiffed on some throws and wide outs took bad routes and angles + drops like U said makes Russell look bad in their eyes.
His grit,his leadership and his blocking all looked better last night.
Encouraging…
September 15th, 2009 at 9:30 pm
Dmac’s fumble leads to 7 points, and Sproles big return with 30 seconds left in the half gets the other 3.
J Russ and Cable were really good in the first half.
About to watch the 3rd qtr.
September 15th, 2009 at 9:33 pm
I also liked that Russell showed heart by coming back after getting hurt and standing in the pocket and throwing a TD. I also loved the block on the JLH run.
Cornell Green’s best play of the game was getting his helmet ripped off
September 15th, 2009 at 9:34 pm
Chris Johnson is BALLIN!
#11 for SD is making some plays!
September 15th, 2009 at 9:40 pm
Huff gets the ball back.
1st dn – Morris gets BLOWN UP by Williams, Williams drops DHB in the backfield.
2nd dn – timing pass to DHB, WHO NEVER TURNS AROUND. Jammer almost gets another pick just like the Murphy play. Steve Young comments on the timing of the play with a rookie WR.
3rd dn – Merriman beats Henderson, flushes JRuss out of the pocket and JRuss throws it away on the run.
3 and out!
September 15th, 2009 at 9:44 pm
not only did the refs blow murphy’s catch but also on the chargers last drive rivers dumped a swing pass to sproles as he raced up the side lines right in front of the ref one of our defender got blasted in the back right in ront of the official. (crazy)
j-russ i still learning the game. it takes time.the quarterback in pittsburg and the giants took awhile. big ben still has poor pocket awareness.eli’s 2nd year the giant fans thought he was a bust then wins a ring ,his 3rd year, it takes time. j-russ has more pressure playing in oakland than on the road cuz we boo him. the kid will get better. he’s our qb. he led us to victory if the coaches didn’t go prevent. he didn’t lose the game it’s gonna be something when he game slows down to him the flashes that he does show will be at a consistant pace
September 15th, 2009 at 9:55 pm
Defense gets the ball back again.
Run to DMac on 1st dn
Bush up the middle on 2nd dn.
JRuss misses an open DHB. Should’ve been able to hit DHB on that pass. This is where Young goes into his have to be able to make that throw remarks. He was bashing his footwork until the replay came on and he said well his footwork was actually pretty good on that … ehhhh you have to be able to make that throw to be an NFL QB.
WHAT!
This game CLEARLY isnt going according to the ESPN script.
September 15th, 2009 at 9:55 pm
Hey J hill do you already know what happened through the game and you’re just rewatching and analyzing what happened?
Also, can you check out my post 324 and tell me what you think
September 15th, 2009 at 9:56 pm
Russell is a bust, we all know that,..except for the blog losers like priest and kell.,…but they have other reasons why they will never give up on him.,…well one reason anyway.
September 15th, 2009 at 9:56 pm
LOL,
Everything I’ve read from the haters is coming straight out of the commentators mouth. This is too funny.
Too bad they wrote the script before the game was actually played. Or maybe JRuss didn’t get his copy?
September 15th, 2009 at 9:57 pm
KC will beat the raiders easily, if russell plays anyway.
September 15th, 2009 at 9:58 pm
Defense stops them AGAIN!
Damn these cats are ballin!
September 15th, 2009 at 9:59 pm
Wow … I can’t believe anyone is actually sticking up for Russell. Face it he is a BUST … if he was drafted in the 3rd round he would not be labelled a bust. Ryan, Flacco, Sanchez all got drafted after Russell and they are playing better … lol at least their whole play book is opened. Seriously in your 3rd year and you ONLY know 80% of the team plays … wow what a smart QB. What was his wonderlic score … same as VY or lower … even Al said JaMarcus was slow to develope. Ask Higgins what he thinks of JR hanging him out to dry like that. Oh well by the end of the year Al will have enough and cut his losses with JaMarcus just like he did with Moss and Hall. I bet the other 31 teams are hoping Al keeps JaMarcus for the full contract.
September 15th, 2009 at 10:02 pm
Yup, rewatching it again Guy.
Haven’t finished with the 3rd qtr yet but so far, we have absolutely tried to run the ball.
I was wrong to criticise Cable earlier.
Except I don’t understand a lot of the routes. 1st play of this next series, DMac and DHB are both streaking down the field on go routes and they are right next to each other. JRuss throws it right between them. Something is wrong with that.
September 15th, 2009 at 10:03 pm
I bet watching Richard Seymour wreak havoc on Rivers will play a part in whether Assel plays.
Have no illusions, KC could put some things together and their D looked good on occasion.
I hope their starting corner Brandon Flowers sits out.
KC needs help right sideof their O. Sound familiar?
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=ApbbFwR1KHhOclHq2INcGvFDubYF?slug=ap-chiefs-haley&prov=ap&type=lgns
September 15th, 2009 at 10:03 pm
i see richard seymore becoming a leader on the defense and teach these kids what it takes to be a champion it’s gonna rub off. they’re already starting to believe. imagine if he would’ve had a weeks practice.
cable is learning on the fly, nice to hear him say the obvious ( it was the coaches fault)
but he’s teaching this team to be a team and to fight for one another till the end . if this continues we are going to shock alot of people just ask that sucker lt and rivers. once cable teaches them how to finish
( teach himself also ) a wild-card posibility won’t be cosidered a ‘reach.
the media will have to bow down
‘ the greatness of the raidahs is it’s fucha !
September 15th, 2009 at 10:04 pm
Russell was 12 for 30 for 200 yards with 1 touchdown and 2 interceptions.
Not exactly Hall of Fame numbers.
September 15th, 2009 at 10:05 pm
Norco Bob Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 9:00 pm
Club seats rich.
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Oh, got cha.
Was a lot that were cheaper on ticketstub.com, but not club.
In that case, pretty good price. Most are going for 200 each, and up.
September 15th, 2009 at 10:05 pm
bombs4ya Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 9:44 pm
j-russ i still learning the game. it takes time …. he led us to victory if the coaches didn’t go prevent. he didn’t lose the game it’s gonna be something when he game slows down to him the flashes that he does show will be at a consistant pace
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Well if he is still learning the game … sit on the bench and learn more than 80% of the playbook.
How come Ryan, Flacco and now Sanchez have no problem learning the game and winning at the same time.
If JaMarcus completes a couple of pases instead of going 3 and out 3 TIMES in arow in the 3rd quarter … Raiders win the game.
September 15th, 2009 at 10:06 pm
Well maybe you should try watching the game again Alex.
And JRuss’ wonderlic score was 24 or so.
What a dumb comment.
September 15th, 2009 at 10:06 pm
post 382 ,..
if the defense would have stopped the chargers with under 2 minutes the raiders win the game. that’s what i saw.
September 15th, 2009 at 10:13 pm
completes a couple of passes in the 3rd qtr?
What about all the passes he completed in the first half and in the 4th qtr?
TD drives to end the half and the game?
Raider fan my arse!
September 15th, 2009 at 10:14 pm
And to end the 3rd qtr, JRuss throws another deep seam route to Miller, and then leads on the reverse to JLH for big yards.
2 bad throws in the 3rd qtr.
Anyone disagree, feel free to turn on the game and point it out.
September 15th, 2009 at 10:15 pm
usc get’s you ready for the pro’s i don’t know about delaware. LSU prepares you for college foot ball. russell had 2 touchdowns , 3 if the refs did cheat !
September 15th, 2009 at 10:15 pm
Yes … I’m a Raider fan but I am not stupid. I can see JaMarcus is not a #1 QB.
September 15th, 2009 at 10:16 pm
Did you really just post a box score recap as your answer to did you watch the game?
Where do you people come from.
I can see how you form your opinion since you only read box scores.
September 15th, 2009 at 10:20 pm
jhil … I did watch the game … want a recall of the 3rd quarter.
Oakland – 10:08
1st-10, OAK37 10:08 D. McFadden rushed to the right for 1 yard loss
2nd-11, OAK36 9:29 J. Russell incomplete pass to the right
3rd-11, OAK36 9:23 J. Russell incomplete pass to the right
4th-11, OAK36 9:10 S. Lechler punt. D. Sproles returned punt for 8 yards
2nd series
Oakland – 7:55
1st-10, SD48 7:55 D. McFadden rushed to the right for 3 yard gain
2nd-7, SD45 7:22 M. Bush rushed up the middle for 2 yard gain
3rd-5, SD43 6:41 J. Russell incomplete pass to the right
4th-5, SD43 6:33 S. Lechler punt, touchback
3 series
Oakland – 4:04
1st-10, OAK27 4:04 J. Russell incomplete pass to the left
2nd-10, OAK27 3:54 D. McFadden rushed to the left for 4 yard gain
3rd-6, OAK31 3:16 J. Russell incomplete pass to the right
4th-6, OAK31 3:05 S. Lechler punt. D. Sproles returned punt for 5 yards. D. Sproles fumbled. D. Sproles recovered fumble
September 15th, 2009 at 10:25 pm
Hey Alex, can you please post the box score recap from the first half?
Let’s see how bad JRuss played then?
How about the last series of the 3rd qtr, I see you left that one out.
September 15th, 2009 at 10:26 pm
# raideralex99 Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 10:05 pm
How come Ryan, Flacco and now Sanchez have no problem learning the game and winning at the same time.
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I posted this earlier today.
Here for the millionth time:
You see Matt Ryan and call Jamarcus a bust. You see Flacco and call Jamarcus a bust. Flacco’s team was 13-3 two years before Flacco joined it. Ryans team was in the NFC Championship game 3 years before and has a Pro Bowl Back and a Pro Bowl receiver. Mark Sanchez came to a NY Jets team that has won 10 games 2 out of the last four years. You have to compare Jamarcus to OTHER overall number ones. Like Stafford, or most recently Alex Smith of the Whiners. And David Carr, Tim Couch. Peyton Manning was 3-13 his lst year as a starter. Troy Aikman was 1-15. You morons would have cut both of those Hall of Famers. Jamarcus basically made his 1st start of his 2nd season. With TWO NEW receivers.
September 15th, 2009 at 10:30 pm
if russell wins games for us you cheer your happy the raiders won.(i think) when he hit murphy on the latst touchdown were you pissed and debating if he’s a #1 qb or did you think we won the game. i thought we won the game myself the way our defense played for most the game. …..
you know who you are.
September 15th, 2009 at 10:31 pm
Hey Cable,
It’s 3rd and 8, in your red zone bruh. PA fake out of the I formation with both WRs tight?
WTF was that?
Settling for the FG was a mistake!
September 15th, 2009 at 10:32 pm
not to mention the offensive lines flacco, ryan,and sanchez have their 1st years. copared to russell line of a year ago. eli sucked but they built him a line. big ben had a good offensive line. none of them had kwame harris to protect them. lets not forget how soft our line was a year ago. if russell had their lines to play behind i think his further in his developement.
we still need a couple of linemen to have a dominant line.
September 15th, 2009 at 10:34 pm
Jhill do you think DHB just had rookie jitters? Sorry if its nagging, but I wanna know what you think of my first long post i think its around 320 or 330. Also, are the bad passes inaccuracy or just having little chemistry with the receivers?
September 15th, 2009 at 10:39 pm
Rookie jitters?
That’s putting it mildly. He was open at times, and was very good run blocking.
That’s about as positive as I can be about DHB.
September 15th, 2009 at 10:41 pm
in closing ….
the raiders are gonna win ball games this year.
even a couple of upsets. they will be tough to beat at home ! san diego’s a good team and it came to the wire. should won bring on the chiefs !
just in case one these lines miss
these bombs just ,
keep coming at ya !
‘ nite y’all
September 15th, 2009 at 10:47 pm
There was a 3rd and 13, when the game was in the 4th qtr with 8 minutes left, where Sproles got the first down on a dump off. He was completely uncovered. I think that was the play a lot of us thought happened on the last drive. LBs dropped 15 yards, beyond the 1st down marker.
That was jsut bad defense. 2 plays later Nnamdi and Routt get beat for 6. That should’ve been a FG instead of a TD.
September 15th, 2009 at 10:48 pm
jhill Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 10:06 pm
Well maybe you should try watching the game again Alex.
And JRuss’ wonderlic score was 24 or so.
What a dumb comment.
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No, You’re “I’m giving Russell a pass” right after the game was a dumb comment.
Making excuses for his horrible throws is a dumb comment.
Using wonderlic scores as an indication if he can memorize a play book is REALLY DUMB.
Here..the following are example questions from a WONDERLIC TEST:
The Wonderlic Personnel Test ™
WPT ™ Sample Questions
1. Look at the row of numbers below. What number should come next?
8 4 2 1 ½ ¼ ?
2. Assume the first two statements are true. Is the final one:
1. true, 2. false, 3. not certain?
The boy plays baseball. All baseball players wear hats. The boy wears a hat.
3. Paper sells for 21 cents per pad. What will four pads cost?
4. How many of the five pairs of items listed below are exact duplicates?
Nieman, K.M. Neiman, K.M.
Thomas, G.K. Thomas, C.K.
Hoff, J.P. Hoff, J.P.
Pino, L.R. Pina, L.R.
Warner, T.S. Wanner, T.S.
5. RESENT RESERVE • Do these words
1. have similar meanings, 2. have contradictory meanings, 3. mean neither the same nor opposite?
7. A train travels 20 feet in 1/5 second. At this same speed, how many feet will it travel in three seconds?
8. When rope is selling at $.10 a foot, how many feet can you buy for sixty cents?
9. The ninth month of the year is
1. October, 2. January, 3. June, 4. September, 5 May.
10. Which number in the following group of numbers represents the smallest amount?
7 .8 31 .33 2
11. In printing an article of 48,000 words, a printer decides to use two sizes of type. Using the larger type, a printed page contains 1,800 words. Using smaller type, a page contains 2,400 words. The article is allotted 21 full pages in a magazine. How many pages must be in smaller type?
12. The hours of daylight and darkness in SEPTEMBER are nearest equal to the hours of daylight and darkness in:
1. June, 2. March, 3. May, 4. November.
13. Three individuals form a partnership and agree to divide the profits equally. X invests $9,000, Y invests $7,000, Z invests $4,000. If the profits are $4,800, how much less does X receive than if the profits were divided in proportion to the amount invested?
14. Assume the first two statements are true. Is the final one:
1. true, 2. false, 3. not certain?
Tom greeted Beth. Beth greeted Dawn. Tom did not greet Dawn.
15. A boy is 17 years old and his sister is twice as old. When the boy is 23 years old, what will be the age of his sister?
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Yes, LMFAO..”what is the 9th month”?
At 10 cents a foot, how many feet can you buy for 60 cents?
Here..HERE’S SOME MORE OF WHAT YOU PUT SO MUCH STAKE IN TO FIGURE OUT IF RUSSELL IS A BRAINIAC..
Wonderlic* Practice Questions Set 2
1. If three inches of rope cost 7 cents, how much would 2 feet of rope cost?
2. What is the next number in the sequence: 5, 10, 20, 40,…?
3. What is the next number in the sequence: 3, 8, 18, 38…?
4. What is the next number in the sequence: 5, 9, 17,33,…?
5. What is the next number in the sequence: 9, 3, 1, 1/3,…?
6. What is the next number in the sequence: 24, 12, 6, 3…?
7. Which of the following numbers represents the greatest amount: 6, 6.0, 0.600, 60?
8. Which of the following numbers represents the smallest amount: 0.400, 0.04, 4.0, 40?
9. Which of the following numbers represents the smallest amount: 3.26, 0.54, 89.00,0.09?
10. Which of the following numbers represents the smallest amount: 3899, 629, 89001, 9867?
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Now, let’s go back to the main point…CABLE HAS ADMITTED HE DUMBS DOWN THE PLAYBOOK FOR RUSSELL..40% last year..and now? Adding 40%.
Bombs4ya IS RIGHT..Ryan, Flacco, oh..and pretty much EVERY ROOKIE HAS TO LEARN THE PLAYBOOK IN ORDER TO PLAY. Not “part of it”..not “what makes ya comfortable..the whole book.
Yet..here, in year 3 Russell is JUST NOW GETTING PAST HIS FIRST 40%??
two years..whole year as a rookie on bench..and he still doesn’t know the playbook?
And you make excuses for him.
Damn..you’re rather sad..in your own way, aren’t ya, jhill?
September 15th, 2009 at 10:50 pm
Ok, so to get caught up, JRuss leads the team down the field and they score a FG.
Got to the Red Zone, Cable called 2 runs that led us to 3rd and 8. JRuss to Miller on 3rd down for 4, the only guy in the pattern off a PA fake.
Defense gives up 7.
JRuss is moving the team down the field, gets hurt converting a 3rd and 1 (ANOTHER 3rd down conversion) and then in come Gradkowski.
September 15th, 2009 at 10:52 pm
Wouldnt that 3 and 13 be stopped if they just played man instead of trying zone ?
September 15th, 2009 at 10:58 pm
Jhill, Oak, SnB and others, Trying to defend Russell ad providing facts is a waste of time. As JB said the future is now and they want him to be great now. So these people are unreasonable and a liitle ignorant.
Common sense makes no sense to them they ant everything now especially from him.
Any objective thinker knows that it’s going to tak Russell time to reach his potential. They don’t wnt to wait. So be it…
Russell’s going nowhere so they will just have to be frustrated because this is reality not Madden.
Earlier I was very critical of the coaches and the playcalling but It’s just that we are very young……….period
That pick to Jammer early was huge due to a young WR and the DMC fumble was just as huge. These players are trying to establish themselves and sometimes no matter what the coaches do that is going to affect us. Just no way around it. DHB’s drops were expensive as well.
The fact is we just have to be patient with this youth movement and give them the chance to develope the same way Dallas did so many year ago. We hav some great young players with the emphasis on young in this case.
I’m just going to enjoy their development and not get so frustrated because then I can enjoy it more.
September 15th, 2009 at 11:00 pm
Let’s just enjoy watching a very young team grow and become great.
September 15th, 2009 at 11:01 pm
Again, WTF are you talking about?
Alex brought up the wonderlic saying JRuss scored what VYoung scored.
LMFAO!
You just can’t get out of your own way.
All that wasted wonderlic BS posting for nothing. You’ve got to feel pretty dumb.
September 15th, 2009 at 11:02 pm
Evening Ms. Richoshat… You should have revealed your gender earlier. We wouldn’t have been so harsh if we knew you were a girl…
September 15th, 2009 at 11:05 pm
Mrs. Richochit, is it true that you are Ann Killion?
You can tell us…
September 15th, 2009 at 11:05 pm
All the football points and you write another 8.5 x 10000000 post on the Wonderlic?
LMFAO!
September 15th, 2009 at 11:05 pm
Gradkowski played well ..
JRuss comes back, completes a pass to Bush, called back due to holding on Green.
1st and 15, nice screen pass to Dmac for 8 yds. 2nd and 7.
Morris whiffs on block, DT comes through untouched and sacks Russell for big loss. 3rd and 15 with under 3 minutes to go in the game, down 4.
3rd and 15 Russell puts the ball on JLH pretty quickly. 4 defenders in the area, but there were only 3 receivers in the pattern. DHB was right next to him so Weddle was right there. I thought JLH was out for the year. Weddle put it on him.
But sorry JLH you HAVE to hold on to that ball.
Needless to say we all know what happened next.
September 15th, 2009 at 11:17 pm
Ok, so we have 2 4th qtr scoring drives by Russell. 2 possessions, 2 scores. Anyone care to dispute that?
Let’s say that his 3rd qtr was as bad as the worst person say it was.
The first half and the 4th qtr were REALLY good. 6/6 to start the game on 3rd down conversions, TD drives to end each half, and 9/12 to the TEs and RBs.
Incredibly uninformed positions some of you take. Stop reading the box score recaps and watch the game!
September 15th, 2009 at 11:17 pm
its not a woman you tards.
Its a ploy for sympathy do not give it any.
September 15th, 2009 at 11:25 pm
Guy,
Just identify Sproles. Zone was fine, but a 15 yd drop with the pressure we were putting on?
That’s on Brown and Howard. Just not high football IQ type plays!
September 15th, 2009 at 11:26 pm
I like Cable. He’s a stand up guy. He put responsibility for this loss on himself and the coaches.
The linebackers inability to contain Sproles in the 4th quarter on those underneath check downs cost us the game.
However the coaches should have identified that immediately when Sproles converted the 3rd and 15 and made the necessary adjustments.
That’s bad coaching at the end of the game and bad execution of the zone defense in my opinion.
Lining up BEHIND the 1st down marker on 3rd and long is ridiculous in my opinion. However the coaches should have noticed that and adjusted.
Overall I’m proud of The Raiders. We beat up SD in that game and were clearly the more physical, dominant team.
A horrible call (once again) and a couple of defensive lapses at the end of the game tarnished an otherwise outstanding overall performance.
September 15th, 2009 at 11:26 pm
I don’t know whats worse elongated posts that are filled with curt and paste or the troll problem we used to have before registration.
How did I know there would be something equally retarded take it place once it was removed.
September 15th, 2009 at 11:31 pm
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September 15th, 2009 at 11:33 pm
jhill Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 11:01 pm
Again, WTF are you talking about?
Alex brought up the wonderlic saying JRuss scored what VYoung scored.
LMFAO!
You just can’t get out of your own way.
All that wasted wonderlic BS posting for nothing. You’ve got to feel pretty dumb.
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Bullcrap, lying boy.
post 368 and 369 Comment from Alex was how “slow” Russell was, regarding his inability to grasp the play book. YOU, moron, replied with how dumb his comment was, adding his wonderlic score.
What? You didn’t think it easy to point that out?
Sorry peanut, but you have the market cornered on “stupid is as stupid does”
Now, here’s my guarantee
You’ll NEVER bring up his silly wonderlic score, again, will you? lol…I don’t think so.
But hey..I’m just sure you’re as proud as can be that he figured out what the ninth month was..right?
Good boy.
September 15th, 2009 at 11:34 pm
Very interesting defense we played the last drive.
Branch, Huff, and Nnamdi playing 3 deep S with Routt and CJ on the corners. Brown and Howard at LB with a 4 man rush.
I don’t think I’ve seen that look before. Not really trying to see it again unless Bowie is in for Routt.
September 15th, 2009 at 11:36 pm
We tried to get cute at the end on defense and it cost us. We should have kept on punching SD in the mouth.
September 15th, 2009 at 11:37 pm
raideralex99 Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 9:59 pm
Wow … I can’t believe anyone is actually sticking up for Russell. Face it he is a BUST … if he was drafted in the 3rd round he would not be labelled a bust. Ryan, Flacco, Sanchez all got drafted after Russell and they are playing better … lol at least their whole play book is opened. Seriously in your 3rd year and you ONLY know 80% of the team plays …
wow what a smart QB. What was his wonderlic score … same as VY or lower …
even Al said JaMarcus was slow to develope. Ask Higgins what he thinks of JR hanging him out to dry like that. Oh well by the end of the year Al will have enough and cut his losses with JaMarcus just like he did with Moss and Hall. I bet the other 31 teams are hoping Al keeps JaMarcus for the full contract.
September 15th, 2009 at 11:44 pm
What else you got Rich?
How about that team of yours? Still don’t want to answer that?
How about the defense losing the game? Never got that yes or no.
But we can stick with the “More stupid things from Ricochet” category if you’d like.
September 16th, 2009 at 12:21 am
The defensive play calling on that final drive was atrocious…..they need to be aggressive in those situatuions …..blitz Rivers and when you do…you cover his short underneath hot reads.
Anyways….the team and coaches need to forget this past game and use their pissed off attitudes and focus on BEATING THE CRAP OUT OF THE CHEFS this weekend. They need an important WIN this weekend…!
They also need to run the ball more!
September 16th, 2009 at 12:28 am
# Nnamdi21 Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 9:10 pm
From writer Jason Cole:
“Dear ESPN analysts Steve Young and Mike Golic: You’re both great guys, but you should have watched the officiating video the NFL sent out last week in which Mike Pereira, the league’s head of officials, went over the exact situation where Oakland wide receiver Louis Murphy’s(notes) potential 19-yard touchdown in the first half was overturned. Pereira explained in detail that a receiver has to control the ball all the way to the ground for it to be a catch and that the league was emphasizing that point this season.”
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YOU probably should’ve watched the play.
It was a bull **** call. His feet and his azz were on the ground first moron.
Stop trying to piss on us and tell us its raining.
Touch down anywhere else but Raiderland.
I thought that corporate shill Periera retired.
He’s there to polish turds and cover for inept refs, bookies and his masters on high.
Some of its games look out right fixed and or staged.
If the NFL doesn’t clean up its act, I’m going elsewhere with my money.
^^^^^^^
EXACTLY! Couldn’t have said it better myself…..that Perreira is a corporate stooge and liar!
That was a freakin TD and if it happened to the Pats, Steelers or Dolts there would be no question about it and the call would have never been over turned.
Bull crap calls have been happening to the Raiders for freakin YEARS…..The NFL has such a love affair for Al Davis, thats why they look to screw him whenever they can! The NFL really is a sham of a league!
September 16th, 2009 at 12:38 am
Going Prevene to lose the game and that BS over turn of a TD from Murph is what cost the game….plain and simple and the team and us fans need to get over it and hope they use all that frustration to stay focused and kick the Chefs a$$ this weekend!
September 16th, 2009 at 12:43 am
Kush, somebody made the call to go to the prevent. It didn’t just happen. We didn’t just “go to a prevent”. Somebody makes the call. Whoever did needs to be fired. With the Raiders, you never know. But we know this much. Al Davis is the owner, and the highest ranking person in football operations. So whoever made the call to go to the prevent was either someone Al Davis hired, or him himself. If it wasn’t him himself, then it was someone he hired. This means Al Davis has to fire that person and replace him with someone better. Are you capable of wrapping your brain around that? Or do you want to continue to think that the players themselves decided to run a prevent?
September 16th, 2009 at 12:46 am
# priesttj Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 11:00 pm
Let’s just enjoy watching a very young team grow and become great.
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They already are pretty good. They just need a new defensive coordinator. Al Davis either has to fire Marshall immediately for blowing a huge game such as this one, and replacing him with someone who understands when to use a prevent defense and when not to, or hire a GM that will. Until Al Davis takes that initiative, this good team will be handicapped by poor organizational management.
September 16th, 2009 at 12:53 am
Anyone else tired of seeing McFadden slip and fall when he has out in the open field. Maybe he should invest in some good shoes like the ones the top RB’s in the league wear. Lets help him out. What’s Peterson’s cell number?
September 16th, 2009 at 12:54 am
Guy’s we will have our day before the year is over. We know it, and so do they.
September 16th, 2009 at 12:59 am
I know this: I was totally wrong about Tom Cable. He’s Kiffin, Gruden, Madden and Muhammad Ali rolled into one. My apologies to anyone in here who was annoyed by all of my Cable bashing. I was dead wrong. This guy is for real. He did everything Gruden would have done last night. Nothing different. Pounded the rock. Put SD’s D to sleep with short, underneath throws, enabling the offense to take advantage of SD’s increasingly tight coverage with a couple of big plays to Miller and the grand slam to Murphy at the end. Just perfect. Murphy’s TD reminded me of Tim Brown’s against the whiners in overtime in 2000. Similar play. Nobody was looking for Tim B to streak to the end zone. The energy was similar, too. The players celebrating. The Raiders were back. We saw that last night. But it was all ruined by perhaps the worst defensive scheme I’ve ever seen. We used a prevent designed to stop the hail mary against an offense that only needed a FIELD GOAL to tie!!! Marshall must be fired, immediately. Until he is, this team is harnessed by poor organizational management. Al Davis has to make a move. The sooner the better. Marshall can not be allowed to stunt the growth of this great team with such porous coordination.
September 16th, 2009 at 1:03 am
priest, we had our day last night. It was ruined by Marshall. Until Al Davis replaces him, this team is harnessed by poor organizational management. There are mistakes, then there are fatal errors. Using that kind of prevent defense in that situation is a fatal error. It’s inexcusable. Al Davis has to fire Marshall now.
September 16th, 2009 at 1:10 am
Yeah yeah yeah! another goofy remark by a goofy guy.
How ’bout you fire yourself from this message board?
September 16th, 2009 at 1:10 am
You don’t believe Marshall deserves to be fired for blowing that game last night? Do you think a franchise that’s been as bad as we have for as long as we have can afford to blow a huge week one victory? Do you think Marshall’s use of that prevent defense was a good call? Are you defending Marshall, priest?
September 16th, 2009 at 1:11 am
Next time we see them we will be a much better team, will they?
September 16th, 2009 at 1:12 am
Shutup!
September 16th, 2009 at 1:20 am
Don’t hold your breath.
September 16th, 2009 at 1:26 am
Don’t tell me to shut up. Who in the F are you? Question stands. Do you stand by Marshall’s defensive scheme at the end of the game last night? Was a hail mary prevent with time on the clock and a 3 point lead a good call? I’m going to ask you until you answer.
September 16th, 2009 at 1:28 am
Ha ha. You support that prevent defense. And you have the gall to come in here and pretend you know something about football. You don’t know anything about football. You just come in here and try to make it seem as if Al Davis knows what he’s doing. Anyone who defends that joke of a defense we used at the end of last night’s game…
September 16th, 2009 at 1:37 am
I was kind of hard on DMC earlier because wneed him to be great for us to be great. We need him desparatly to deliver the goods he has the talent to effectively opeup the rest of the field for Russell. What you saw from Sproles is a playmaker that Rivers can count on in the passing game as well as the running game. He woul make it much easier on the rest of the team if he could become the factor in the offense that DC’s have to game plan against. If he can do that we’re a much better team almost instantly.
September 16th, 2009 at 1:45 am
You’re in complete denial, preist. You’re lost. And you know I’m the only one in here. Who are you talking to? Yourself? LOL. Marshall blew that game. Al Davis has to fire him, immediately. A hail mary prevent with time on the clock and a 3 point lead? You act like you know something about football. If so, then you know that’s inexcusable.
September 16th, 2009 at 2:54 am
MR maybe it wasn’t Marshall who called the prevent. No matter who our DC has been we’ve always run that D at the end of a game with a lead.
Maybe Al should fire himself?
September 16th, 2009 at 3:49 am
JHIll,
Keep posting the truth out here. So many ignorant fans on this site.
Defensive playcalling lost the game. Period. Not the players.
Russell made the plays to win and was good on 3rd down.
Defense was outstanding for 9/10ths of the game.
Offensive playcalling in the 3rd QTR hurt. Too much shotgun and too much down the field.
Game management skills of the coaching staff/owner has to get better than this. They are losing games and the apologies at the press conference are no comfort
September 16th, 2009 at 5:00 am
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September 16th, 2009 at 5:02 am
Good Morning NATION!!!
Yes we lost after having a lead.Cable said at top of post they NOW know what they have.Our DC has never coached these B4,but NOW they have.Lets hope this is corrected,which I think it FINALLY will be.Gawd,I know I’ve said this B4 but…I HATE THE SQUAWS MORE THAN ANYTHING IN SPORTS…LETS STOMP THE SQUAWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GOOOOOOOOOOO RRRRRAAAAAAAIIIIIIIDDDDDDEEEEERRRRRSSSS!!!
September 16th, 2009 at 5:11 am
it should be schillens and murphy not dhb murphy is so far ahead of him bush mcfadden forget about farglass as far as russell goes hes our qb hes gonna stay our qb plain and simple
September 16th, 2009 at 5:30 am
4eva you truly are a true and old-school Raider fan , don’t like Chargers,Broncos neither but only 1 team is or only hated rival and dat dam bums in KC. Laugh all you want KC last time you won a SB the FG post were in the middle of the endzone
September 16th, 2009 at 5:39 am
YEP…NMF you hit the nail on the head on that one !!! =)
September 16th, 2009 at 5:40 am
You 2 eh NMF!?!?!?!?!?!
September 16th, 2009 at 5:49 am
I remember some games would taks almost 4 hours because of all the fights that would break out after EVERY play!!!.Oakland vs. KC made the AFL,IMHO
September 16th, 2009 at 5:51 am
Its so bad with me I try not 2 purchase ANYTHING red
September 16th, 2009 at 5:52 am
Morning Hwnrdr!!! You 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 16th, 2009 at 5:53 am
What up NATION???????
September 16th, 2009 at 5:54 am
the way these post appear makes one look physic,but the site looks silly
September 16th, 2009 at 5:56 am
Good morning Nation The only Nation.
I dont wear red at all not even if it’s the trim on shoes or a shirt. I would rather wear pink lol
September 16th, 2009 at 5:58 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Screw KC and their sea of Fn red!!! Red is my most hate color!!!
I had posted this online last night…
AMBER ALERT: Missing D from the 4th quarter. Anyone see them, please send them back to Alameda Parkway. Thank you!!!
That prevent has got to stop! Not even with a 30 point lead with 2 minutes left!!!
September 16th, 2009 at 6:00 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S.K.C. IS UP NEXT,BETTER BE FOCUS’D ON THEM OR WILL BE STARING AT 0-2.THEY PUT UP SOME POINT’S LAST WEEK..
September 16th, 2009 at 6:00 am
BTW: Did anyone hear that some people couldn’t leave the parking lot until about 1AM that night? I mean I was upset that I had to leave in the 4th, but now I’m glad that I did…if that is true!
September 16th, 2009 at 6:02 am
I dont think it was the prevent that lost us that game.
I think it was Ricky Brown in the last drive, he played so far off of The rb it was an easy 7 yards before being touched. Our corners were already to deep to assist. Like on 1 play he played off and then was gonna make the tackle before he slipped by the time anyone got to him he already 15 yards down field. Sorry cant blame it all him so i give some blame to the ref’s i think Rivers should have been ejected for throwing the ball at a players head in anger. I also think the safety that put the hit on JLH should be fined for helmet to helmet, they got the guy from the titans for doing it to Hines Ward. Just my opinion.
September 16th, 2009 at 6:03 am
Wonder what the historical trends are, if you have a lead in the fourth period, and you start to run the prevent vs. Having the lead in the fourth and not running the prevent?
I guess sometimes the coaches just dont use common sense when in the heat of battle.
Example, your Dline has played a GREAT game applying pressure to the QB, but now they appear to be is gassed in the fourth qtr. The Dline is going against a couple of fresh players replacements if you will.
Common sense would tell you if you want to continue to add pressure you need to rush or for lack of a better term blitz.
Rivers saw a four man front, all day. Where was the blitz???
We will never win a game playing this way, hopefully coaches, and Owner make the proper adjustments.
Its no coincidence that madden coined the phrase
” the prevent, prevents you from winning”
September 16th, 2009 at 6:04 am
hey Thec…Lets hope Jmac can dial it in and the WR can hold da ball
September 16th, 2009 at 6:06 am
What’s happening nation!!!! Im still pissed about the td taken away from us, now its time to re-focus, we have to face KC and the sunshine guys, does anyone know if we will be planning for brodie croyle? Or will that other guy play?
September 16th, 2009 at 6:11 am
Jerry mac made a good point yesterdsay on his live chat. The question was about Jamarcus innacuracies.
His responce was why does he not over or underthrow ZMIller or schillens, cause they run precise routes. The problem with starting rookies is the timing of the routes ran. On Jmac’s first interception the recievers job was to undercut the corner, that didnt happen he over ran his cut. Corner steps in fron and nabs the interception. Then Cable whent on to say that the offense they run gives the reciever and Qb options on witch way to run the route depending on the coverage, so if there not on the same page the ball looks over thrown or just off target. I’m willing to bet it’s not all Jmacs fault, and DHB will be fine he is just so nervous and wants to be great to fast. Lets cheer him on instead of jumping down his throat and give him that confidence.
September 16th, 2009 at 6:12 am
That last point was key R8dr4lfe21…Why did we stop running the ball? Usually, teams don’t stop running until the opposing team stops it…those 3 and outs, especially in the 3rd were killers. How many times could we have possibly score and not worry about those 2 minutes…?
September 16th, 2009 at 6:13 am
4eva,
What up Bruh, How you doing this morning? I have calmed down a little bit after the definsive coaches let san diego win the game.
September 16th, 2009 at 6:15 am
Thec…if I remember correctly,teams usually didnt run the prevent untill the 2 minute warning or less.I also dont agree with using it till then.The opponets last series is the time,imo
September 16th, 2009 at 6:15 am
damn word press AGAIN
September 16th, 2009 at 6:17 am
I think a prevent D is ok if the other team needs a TD with no time outs, but when all they need is a field goal your giving up way to many yards in such a short time span. Lets also look at the special teams play we havent even mentioned Sproals gashing us on kick returns. There are to many ways we could have won lets not focus on the prevent or Jmac lets look at the whole team. Like play calling why in the hell did we stop running the ball we had them so beat up they couldnt stop it. Then 3 straight 3 and outs in the 3rd quarter come on. Run the ball lets keep the D fresh.
September 16th, 2009 at 6:17 am
r8dr4lfe21 Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 6:11 am
Jerry mac made a good point yesterdsay on his live chat. The question was about Jamarcus innacuracies.
His responce was why does he not over or underthrow ZMIller or schillens, cause they run precise routes. The problem with starting rookies is the timing of the routes ran. On Jmac’s first interception the recievers job was to undercut the corner, that didnt happen he over ran his cut. Corner steps in fron and nabs the interception. Then Cable whent on to say that the offense they run gives the reciever and Qb options on witch way to run the route depending on the coverage, so if there not on the same page the ball looks over thrown or just off target. I’m willing to bet it’s not all Jmacs fault, and DHB will be fine he is just so nervous and wants to be great to fast. Lets cheer him on instead of jumping down his throat and give him that confidence.
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i said the same thing early yesterday…
i do believe it the rookie receivers not running through their routes more than anything…
you look at the expression on Jmac’s face and you could see he was getting frustrated with H-Bey and Murph…
but… that being said… there will be a lot of time spent with those two this week… explaining, walking through, then practicing those routes and reactions…
looking for the ball wouldn’t hurt…
the image i get sometimes if of a guy in dance class too busy watching his own feet to do anything else…
September 16th, 2009 at 6:19 am
4evaRaider Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 6:15 am
Thec…if I remember correctly,teams usually didnt run the prevent untill the 2 minute warning or less.I also dont agree with using it till then.The opponets last series is the time,imo
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Agreed, Problem is we were in that same defense the last 2 times san diego had the ball.
September 16th, 2009 at 6:20 am
Good call Florida Pete i didnt see your post.
Also a good analogy on a dancer watching his own feet.
The youngsters just need time and our support. Jmac is a leader so he takes it on the chin when we as fans dog him. He could easily blame his recievers but thats not him.
September 16th, 2009 at 6:21 am
another bad thing about the prevent defense is that it allows the other team to manage the clock…
so that when (not if) they score, there is not enough time on the clock for a comeback…
someone else on here had it right… prevents should never be used when you have less than a 7 point advantage…
September 16th, 2009 at 6:22 am
r8dr4lfe21 Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 6:24 am
Did you guys hear Tony Bruno yesterday, man was he pissed on that blown call by the ref’s. He said take the steelers win away from last year cause the catch was the same. 2 feet in and as the player feel out of bounds and hit the ground the ball came loose. 19 out of 20 thats a touchdown unless your colors are silver and black.
Yup…but they called it a TD because both feet were in…only the Raiders will get those stupid calls like that! But wait…wasn’t Gates TD the same? I left in the 4th and I still haven’t watched it yet…
September 16th, 2009 at 6:24 am
Did you guys hear Tony Bruno yesterday, man was he pissed on that blown call by the ref’s. He said take the steelers win away from last year cause the catch was the same. 2 feet in and as the player feel out of bounds and hit the ground the ball came loose. 19 out of 20 thats a touchdown unless your colors are silver and black.
September 16th, 2009 at 6:25 am
Now if we could only PREVENT JaMarcus from wolfing down Fat Burgers.
September 16th, 2009 at 6:25 am
damn word press AGAIN and their clock is EFFED UP WTF
September 16th, 2009 at 6:25 am
Bottom line nation the defense was playing not to lose.
They should have been applying more pressure, and playing to win.
You have a QB, that is totally demoralized, and that same QB gets a personal foul because he is frustrated. You continue to rush only four, knowing he is out of his game.
1. If i was the owner of the Raiders i would have fired marshall yesterday.
2. If I am MR. Davis and I am interfering with the coaches ability to coach by defensive scheming I fire myself.
Of course niether of these will happen.
Monday night was inexcusable no matter how you slice it
You only get 16 weeks….
September 16th, 2009 at 6:29 am
Pete,
what up, you should change your handle to
“Draft Specialist Pete”……
September 16th, 2009 at 6:29 am
Well this is Marshall’s 1st time with these players…I would say 2 him…DONT LET THAT HAPPEN AGAIN OR ELSE
September 16th, 2009 at 6:33 am
Florida Pete Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 6:58 am
i’m having trouble reconciling the Russell inacurracy accusation…
how is it that he is able to hit Miller whenever he wants, wherever Miller is???
i’m guessing here… because i don’t have game film to review… but i think it was the WR’s not running through their routes…
it’s like they ran practice routes… stopping or slowing down like they do in practice… instead of running through their routes and continuing…
i noticed this with both h-bey and murphy… especially h-bey…
also… it was like they were more focused on running their routes as opposed to looking for the ball… russel looked frustrated our there… frustrated with his receivers… one play in particular was the pass to H-bey going well beyond him… but h-bey never looked until it was too late… and he was slowing down… that looked to me like a potential big play… instead it was a 3rd down incomplete…
could Russell have been better??? absolutely… but blaming him for all of it isn’t right…
also… 3rd and 4th qtr play calling left something to be desired… maybe it was losing gallery… but we didn’t run very much… it was like the Raiders wanted to win… but they wanted to win through the air with Russell…
September 16th, 2009 at 6:34 am
I wonder how many more people will be posting on this blog if the Raiders start winning games. I mean like seriously contending for the playoffs. I know there is plenty of people who hibernate when there team is no good. All those people need to die.
September 16th, 2009 at 6:35 am
Jmac is a leader so he takes it on the chin when we as fans dog him. He could easily blame his recievers but thats not him
Total agreement!!!
September 16th, 2009 at 6:36 am
To be honest I wasnt mad at the TD being called off. We have a history of calls like that and rules being made up while we play, so i am kinda use to it.
20 times out of 20 times that is a TD no question.
Contrary to what anybody says botched calls and 1000% enforcement of the rules, and addendums to rules will ALLWAYS occure and be enforced in a raider game…
September 16th, 2009 at 6:36 am
That one pass JaMarcus made to JLH where he got blown up was actually incredible. 3rd down and long and he put that ball on the money, perfectly in between 3 guys.
September 16th, 2009 at 6:38 am
Florida Pete Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 10:49 am
BLW Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 9:15 am
Chris in NY– Ok, that did happen. But how many times did drives end because he flat missed open recievers? I can think of 8 times off the top of my head. My only beef with J Russ is his accuracy. Like Steve Young said, you can’t be taught that. You either got it or you don’t. JaMarcus just isn’t ever going to be an accurate passer. I hope he succeeds, believe me I want it, but what I see is obvious.
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okay, your sentiment seems to be typical of the Russell bashers in here…
the statement seems to be: Russell is inaccurate.
so anyone… answer me this:
How is it Russell and Miller seem to hook up so well???
How is it Russell and Schillens seem to hook up so well???
Could it be that Miller and Schillens catch the ball???
and could it be that they run the correct routes and complete their routes???
could it be that Hayward-Bey and to a lesser extent Murphy do not complete their routes and do not look for the ball???
i’m thinking that if it were Schillens and Walker out there all night long, there might have been a completely different outcome…
clearly Murphy and H-Bey need more time to adjust to the NFL… playing both at the same time might not be a great situation… especially for Russell… who might be looking for a receiver that is on the same sheet of music that he is…
September 16th, 2009 at 6:39 am
Looking again at the schedule last night, I believe that the Raiders have a chance at 9-7, at least! If they play the whole 60 minutes like the first 50 minutes of Monday night, the Raiders may even pull off some upsets and beat SD in Qualcom. They looked good enough to do so Monday night. If we go to New York (New Jersey) with a 3-1 record, that would be a good start. But…lets see guys! I left the game Monday night with a good feeling about this years team.
Spike the Kool-aid, OAKlifer…I’m coming back for more!!!
September 16th, 2009 at 6:42 am
My G/F roommate asked me this morning B4 she went 2 work…Did the Raider NATION sleep with ALL the refs daughters??? Because these types of calls ALWAYS go against us LOL
September 16th, 2009 at 6:43 am
Florida Pete Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 6:43 am
okay… new rule…
no banging the referee’s daughters…
and that especially goes for Norco Bob…
Does that apply only to the players and coaches?
September 16th, 2009 at 6:43 am
okay… new rule…
no banging the referee’s daughters…
and that especially goes for Norco Bob…
September 16th, 2009 at 6:44 am
Pete, I have to be honest with you, after this loss I was down on 80% of this team, 100% of the organization.
I labled JRUSS the black ryan leaf. I was am still am pissed off about the game so i do need to back off labeling the young man at this point. I will continue to show my support for him in the hopes that he matures. But to be honest he did not endear himself to the team coming in sloppy. He says he leads by example, that was a poor one… water under the bridge.
I will hold my peace until week 8.
September 16th, 2009 at 6:46 am
=)
September 16th, 2009 at 6:46 am
WELL SAID PETE,PRACTICE TIME AND PLAYING TIME,THESE GUY’S SHOULD BE 2GETHER 24-7 UNTIL THE TIMING IS THERE..
September 16th, 2009 at 6:47 am
Its OK BROTHER THEC…WE ALL UNDERSTAND BECAUSE WE BEEN THERE 2
September 16th, 2009 at 6:48 am
After watching that game I was thankful I did not have access to any explosive devices….
September 16th, 2009 at 6:55 am
I like Murphy, he makes rookie mistakes but he is a playmaker IMO, he allways seems to get open and score.
What is up with JLH, on that hit from weddle sorry but he should have held onto it. Why is he not getting a lot of shine.
I know DHB is young, thats what the preseason is for, to help get rid of the dear in headlights. that said I am willing to give him a pass on the first game. He better have a good stat line after the KC game.
Nick Miller wil be a nice addition if he is healthy, could have used him…
No excuses
September 16th, 2009 at 6:55 am
4Eva, just joking about the explosive part, a loss is a loss. I dont get as upset as i used to. Being in charger country you have to roll with it.
September 16th, 2009 at 7:00 am
Week One power rankings
Posted by Mike Florio on September 16, 2009 7:56 AM ET
The PFT preseason power rankings provided a starting point. The first weekend of action gave us some hard evidence of ability or lack thereof.
So here’s the official PFT power rankings after Week One. The preseason rankings are in parentheses. Your comments ridiculing and/or praising us surely will be appearing below.
1. Pittsburgh Steelers (1)
2. New England Patriots (2)
3. New York Giants (4)
4. San Diego Chargers (3)
5. Philadelphia Eagles (9)
6. Indianapolis Colts (6)
7. Minnesota Vikings (7)
8. Tennessee Titans (5)
9. Baltimore Ravens (8)
10. Green Bay Packers (10)
11. Dallas Cowboys (11)
12. New Orleans Saints (12)
13. Atlanta Falcons (13)
14. Chicago Bears (14)
15. New York Jets (23)
16. Buffalo Bills (21)
17. Seattle Seahawks (24)
18. San Francisco 49ers (25)
19. Jacksonville Jaguars (19)
20. Washington Redskins (22)
21. Miami Dolphins (17)
22. Arizona Cardinals (16)
23. Denver Broncos (26)
24. Houston Texans (18)
25. Carolina Panthers (15)
26. Kansas City Chiefs (27)
27. Oakland Raiders (30)
28. Cincinnati Bengals (20)
29. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (29)
30. Cleveland Browns (28)
31. St. Louis Rams (31)
32. Detroit Lions (32)
September 16th, 2009 at 7:04 am
look for the Chargers to end up about 21 by the end of the season…
based on what i saw two nights ago… look for the Raiders to end the season in the upper teens… i’m predicting 9-7… and the division title…
the AFC west will get no respect from anyone by the end of the season…
September 16th, 2009 at 7:05 am
Just read that on pft, Florio is on drugs. PERIOD
SD gets punched in the face, manhandles, and exsposed as the fraud they are, ranked 4th…..
Put down the pipe florio….
September 16th, 2009 at 7:08 am
Looks like he flipped a coin between the raiders and KC heads KC tails Raiders….
Chargers go 7-9….. we exsposed them completely….
LT = done
fairymen done, will be in the NFC next year.
Oline = Needs an overhaul
Dline = Overated needs an overhaul
Cromartie = done traded to AFC north
Norv Turner = fired
September 16th, 2009 at 7:10 am
The timing issue on this site needs to be fixed!!!
Lets go into KC on this supposed hatred filled “Raider Week” down there and ripped them a new one!!! Cassell may not even start on Sunday. But without Gonzo there, we should escape there with a win. I mean, why shouldn’t we?
September 16th, 2009 at 7:11 am
Thec07 Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 7:08 am
Chargers go 7-9….. we exsposed them completely….
LT = done
fairymen done, will be in the NFC next year.
Oline = Needs an overhaul
Dline = Overated needs an overhaul
Cromartie = done traded to AFC north
Norv Turner = fired
That is true!!! Some Charger fans up here are pissed!!! Oh well!!!
September 16th, 2009 at 7:13 am
Hmmm
What a gave, huh… they at least had us believing that it might happen… SD was really really bad, question is, are KC worse, I would think so…
Regarding Seymour, it seems like a great deal him and Ellis was the defense, at least the run defense… im still very disappointed about our MLBs they let sproles do what he wanted…
Murphy has it, I really like him, I still have my doubts about DHB, not to mention the pick of a WR in 1st round…
All in all, a very encouragingly game, that might mean we will win more than 6 games…
I think we needed to use Bush more in 2nd and 3rd quarter, i was impressed with OO and Henderson, they were great… Russell, I dont know what to think of him, still have great doubts about him…
September 16th, 2009 at 7:14 am
gave=game… LOL
September 16th, 2009 at 7:15 am
speaking of da pipe…time 4da skunk!!!
September 16th, 2009 at 7:17 am
LMN did you also wake up at 4 AM to see the game on Danish TV? ha ha.
Speaking of the DROP.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sqs_8thjvsc
Roughly 1:22 mark, end of first half, Gates to the Raider 1 yrd line, as his body hits the ground he loses control of the ball. Why is this a catch?
It’s not like his butt hit the turf first making him down before he lost control.
September 16th, 2009 at 7:17 am
You are right Hwnrdr…They celebrate Black Monday in KC when da Raiders are up next…Sell out their stadium and everything…OOOOOOH YEAH,WE GOING 2 KC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 16th, 2009 at 7:22 am
Good Morning…I mean Good Afternoon LMN!!!
Seymour came in and made a statement by saying, “this is my line”…he did keep good on his promise when he said that he will be the one on the qb!!!
September 16th, 2009 at 7:29 am
La Milicia Negra Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 7:14 am
gave=game… LOL
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we gave….made total sense the first time..LOL
September 16th, 2009 at 7:30 am
Hey we won there the last 2 years…let us make it 3 years in a row. Like I said before, we have to start at least 2-1 (should have been 3-0, but can’t change that now!!!).
September 16th, 2009 at 7:31 am
With all the focus on Russell’s poor passing, McFadden’s performance hasn’t gotten much attention. I, for one, am disappointed.
Clearly, he’s a good football player. He runs hard, fights for extra yardage and is a strong blocker.
But this is a guy who was compared to Peterson coming out of school. So far, McFadden has not shown any real moves and very little burst getting through a hole. When he runs outside, he is always taken down by the first tackler.
He seems more effective running between the guards and breaking tackles than he does surveying the field and running for daylight.
But he was supposed to be a dynamic, game-changing back. So far, he’s not.
September 16th, 2009 at 7:40 am
Southwick would have done better than 40%…….
September 16th, 2009 at 7:40 am
Im keeping track
P.Harvin Crabtree DHB
3 REC 36 YRDS 1 TD 0.0 0.0
September 16th, 2009 at 7:45 am
Let me guess…all P.Harvin…LOL
September 16th, 2009 at 7:45 am
I am still waiting to see us call a QB draw against a blitz. JWuss should be good at it.
And kudos to Jano! He made a good force out on the long runback…still a great tackler for a kicker, and faster than he looks.
Both our QB and kicker are bigger than most of the defensive players they face!
September 16th, 2009 at 7:46 am
Riiiight, let’s worry about McFadden instead of Russell, Green, Morris, Satele, and the LBers!
Putz.
September 16th, 2009 at 7:48 am
You hear a lot of talk about how the Raiders will handle KC no problem. I just hope the players themselves aren’t buying into it. They need to play as hard this week as they did last week. And then next week they need to do it again. They’re in no position to look past anyone, not even the Lions.
I’m not even close to ready to give up on Jamarcus or declare him a bust but at the same time these excuses for missing wide open receivers by fifteen feet are pathetic. (’He’s throwing to rookies’, etc..). I sure hope Hackett isn’t coddling him like some of those who post here. (Here’s what Hackett needs to tell him: “Pull your head out of your big fat you-know-what and deliver the ball. What the hell’s your problem?”)
September 16th, 2009 at 7:51 am
Wassup Fellas …
You shouldn’t have deleted the gaem Dakota.
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jhill Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 9:23 pm
Ok,
I was wrong JRuss, my bad!
I just rewatched the first half and you JRuss haters are out of your mind!
Do you realize how many 3rd downs he converted?
Do you recall that drive where DMac fumbled? JRuss was NICE! dropping off to RBs, hitting the TEs, etc.
Comes right back on the next possesion and hits DHB on the numbers and dude drops it. On 3rd down, puts it right on Murphy’s hands and he drops it.
First drive should have been points except for the bad route by Murphy.
TD drive to end the half? Put the ball right on Murphy!
LOL at anyone who said that Murphy lost the ball before he hit the ground. ESPN was playing that back and forth sideways and upwards and Golic of all people was ADAMANT is was a catch!
JRuss missed on the throw to JLH on that last drive, bad. But then came right back on the next throw to Murphy for a big first down.
That first half by JRuss was as good as can be. Cable’s play calling was spot on.
DMac’s fumble, Murphy’s bad route, and the ref’s interpretation of a rule really hurt the offense.
September 16th, 2009 at 7:52 am
jhill Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 11:17 pm
Ok, so we have 2 4th qtr scoring drives by Russell. 2 possessions, 2 scores. Anyone care to dispute that?
Let’s say that his 3rd qtr was as bad as the worst person say it was.
The first half and the 4th qtr were REALLY good. 6/6 to start the game on 3rd down conversions, TD drives to end each half, and 9/12 to the TEs and RBs.
Incredibly uninformed positions some of you take. Stop reading the box score recaps and watch the game!
September 16th, 2009 at 7:54 am
jhill Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 11:34 pm
Very interesting defense we played the last drive.
Branch, Huff, and Nnamdi playing 3 deep S with Routt and CJ on the corners. Brown and Howard at LB with a 4 man rush.
I don’t think I’ve seen that look before. Not really trying to see it again unless Bowie is in for Routt.
September 16th, 2009 at 7:55 am
NoMoreFargas Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 7:40 am
Im keeping track
P.Harvin Crabtree DHB
3 REC 36 YRDS 1 TD 0.0 0.
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Also keep an eye on Kenny Brit, and Hakeem Nicks…
September 16th, 2009 at 7:56 am
A few points to consider regarding JR:
Eli Manning passer ratings:
Career 76.3
rookie year 55.4
second year 75.9
third year 77
fourth year 73.9 super bowl WIN
fifth year 86.4
With a much better TEAM than what JR has had to date.
JR
Career passer rating 72.2
rookie year 55.9
second year 77.1
Those who want to say JR is a bust need to remain silent.
He is a third year QB and is on track for success. Deal with it.
September 16th, 2009 at 7:58 am
Why compare DHB to any of those guys? Why not compare him to other players we would have selected at 7, like E. Monroe and Raji?
September 16th, 2009 at 8:00 am
Dakota…
exactly, good to see ya back, DHB needs not prove himself against other WRs he needs to prove he was the right move against DTs/MLBs/OTs/Cs from the 1st round..
September 16th, 2009 at 8:02 am
RaiderfanNY Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 7:31 am
With all the focus on Russell’s poor passing, McFadden’s performance hasn’t gotten much attention. I, for one, am disappointed.
Clearly, he’s a good football player. He runs hard, fights for extra yardage and is a strong blocker.
But this is a guy who was compared to Peterson coming out of school. So far, McFadden has not shown any real moves and very little burst getting through a hole. When he runs outside, he is always taken down by the first tackler.
He seems more effective running between the guards and breaking tackles than he does surveying the field and running for daylight.
But he was supposed to be a dynamic, game-changing back. So far, he’s not.
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With all due respect Bro the chargers had 8, 9 in the box at times…. Hard to get to the second and third level when facing that type of front. The chargers were saying to JRUSS you beat us. Them doing that we should have blown them out.
the play calling was very suspect.
DMAC needs space to be effective, he is a slighlty better version of RBUSH, that said get him the ball is space screens, dump offs wheels and goes. Utilize both MBUSH, and DMAC…..
Our adjusments at halftime were abysmal at best.
Point, you pound them at halftime, they will make it a point to stop the run. they put 8 9 in the box, we kept running at that front not good planning IMHO…
September 16th, 2009 at 8:04 am
So does this mean Cable will sit Bush for the next 15 games while Fargas tries to equal Bush’s rushing TD total?
And Murphy will sit for the next 15 games while DHB tries to equal Murphy’s receiving TD total?
Bush and DMAC and Miller should be on the field for every offensive play.
At the end of most plays the RB faces a pile of tacklers. Bush moves the pile as he is tackled, Fargas goes not. DMAC showed some meanness on a few blocks last game… nice to see.
September 16th, 2009 at 8:05 am
jhill Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 7:54 am
jhill Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 11:34 pm
Very interesting defense we played the last drive.
Branch, Huff, and Nnamdi playing 3 deep S with Routt and CJ on the corners. Brown and Howard at LB with a 4 man rush.
I don’t think I’ve seen that look before. Not really trying to see it again unless Bowie is in for Routt.
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Would have been more effective had you put mitchell out to spy the midget…
September 16th, 2009 at 8:07 am
Would have been more effective had you put mitchell out to spy the midget…
LMAO!!!
September 16th, 2009 at 8:09 am
Dakota Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 7:58 am
Why compare DHB to any of those guys? Why not compare him to other players we would have selected at 7, like E. Monroe and Raji?
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Compare DNB to other WR’s in the draft, no way to compare otherwise.
September 16th, 2009 at 8:10 am
thats EXACTLY what should have been done Thec… good call!!!
September 16th, 2009 at 8:16 am
Mitchell was and is a good pickup, the kid is fast and will unload…. What this team has been missing is meanness nastyness toghness dirtyness…..
A punch you in the face, body slam you, stomp on your head while you are down. Look at that game guys we were playing NFL football, we were smashing the chargers.
I went to the charger forum this morning they still hate us but they now know that we are not to be F@CKed with. They are glad to see we have JRUSS as, or otherwise they beleive we would have rolled um. JRUSS is going to be fine, he is not a bust and should get better…..
AS I stated earlier the 2009-2010 Raiders = Improbable.
September 16th, 2009 at 8:16 am
HwnRdr…
thanks… and good morning to you =)
September 16th, 2009 at 8:17 am
I believe Dakota means respective of where they were taken if the draft
September 16th, 2009 at 8:18 am
RaiderfanNY Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 7:31 am
With all the focus on Russell’s poor passing, McFadden’s performance hasn’t gotten much attention. I, for one, am disappointed.
Clearly, he’s a good football player. He runs hard, fights for extra yardage and is a strong blocker.
But this is a guy who was compared to Peterson coming out of school. So far, McFadden has not shown any real moves and very little burst getting through a hole. When he runs outside, he is always taken down by the first tackler.
He seems more effective running between the guards and breaking tackles than he does surveying the field and running for daylight.
But he was supposed to be a dynamic, game-changing back. So far, he’s not.
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True dat! He goes down when you touch his foot!
Dakotka> I like your comment that DHB should be compared to Raji and Monroe. Haven’t seen Raji yet, but Monroe looked like MOP HANDLE in the Indy game! He got lit up, but then again it was a pro-bowler, Dwight Freeny.
September 16th, 2009 at 8:22 am
# Thec07 Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 8:09 am
Dakota Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 7:58 am
Why compare DHB to any of those guys? Why not compare him to other players we would have selected at 7, like E. Monroe and Raji?
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Compare DNB to other WR’s in the draft, no way to compare otherwise.
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I have alwasy compared Napoleon Harris against Ed Reed, and Robert Gallery against Larry Fitzgerald…
September 16th, 2009 at 8:23 am
Stabler76 Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 8:04 am
So does this mean Cable will sit Bush for the next 15 games while Fargas tries to equal Bush’s rushing TD total?
And Murphy will sit for the next 15 games while DHB tries to equal Murphy’s receiving TD total?
Bush and DMAC and Miller should be on the field for every offensive play.
At the end of most plays the RB faces a pile of tacklers. Bush moves the pile as he is tackled, Fargas goes not. DMAC showed some meanness on a few blocks last game… nice to see.
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Agreed…
September 16th, 2009 at 8:23 am
Great point LMN…
September 16th, 2009 at 8:26 am
Mike Mitchell…the invisible man….I have yet to see him in a Raiders uniform…totally missed him in the game the other night, lol.
Hopefully he plays more against KC….and hopefully my local stations carry that game!
September 16th, 2009 at 8:26 am
La Milicia Negra Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 8:22 am
# Thec07 Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 8:09 am
Dakota Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 7:58 am
Why compare DHB to any of those guys? Why not compare him to other players we would have selected at 7, like E. Monroe and Raji?
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Compare DNB to other WR’s in the draft, no way to compare otherwise.
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I have alwasy compared Napoleon Harris against Ed Reed, and Robert Gallery against Larry Fitzgerald…
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I guess you could make the argument based on draft postion….
You cauld also make the argument of actual postion stats…
whatever works….
September 16th, 2009 at 8:27 am
Raiders 31
Chiefs 17
September 16th, 2009 at 8:28 am
Raiders 31
Chiefs 17
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September 16th, 2009 at 8:28 am
Thec true…
it all comes down to that i never liked the DHB pick, so i will compare him to other positions contribution, positions we really really needed
September 16th, 2009 at 8:29 am
Dakota Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 8:26 am
Mike Mitchell…the invisible man….I have yet to see him in a Raiders uniform…totally missed him in the game the other night, lol.
Hopefully he plays more against KC….and hopefully my local stations carry that game!
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Mike Mitchell 1 tackle and 1 assist his number is 34…
September 16th, 2009 at 8:30 am
Dakota Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 8:26 am
Mike Mitchell…the invisible man….I have yet to see him in a Raiders uniform…totally missed him in the game the other night, lol.
Hopefully he plays more against KC….and hopefully my local stations carry that game!
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atdhe.net or justin.tv
Will typically have the games, watched the Raider game on atdhe.net….
September 16th, 2009 at 8:30 am
cant we clone Zach Miller and start 4 of him, at flankers, split and TE ???
September 16th, 2009 at 8:32 am
—”You are posting comments too quickly. Slow down.”—
Jerry McDonald get a new hamster, you freaking site is slow as a deer on ice…
September 16th, 2009 at 8:33 am
Yeah, I saw that sack Monroe gave up to Freeney, lol, that would suck having to go up against him your very first game!
I think the Jags have two rookie tackles playing…might take them a while to get going.
Same with DHB…I am just hoping he can get something going, and he better do it soon, because Russell needs the help. Maybe James Jett or Ricky Dudley can come teach the kid how to catch? So far he is making them look like they had world class hands!
September 16th, 2009 at 8:35 am
Raider75 Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 8:36 am
Why is placing my post way up the board?
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Frickin’ Fargas.
September 16th, 2009 at 8:35 am
# La Milicia Negra Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 8:30 am
cant we clone Zach Miller and start 4 of him, at flankers, split and TE ???
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They DID clone him — his name’s Brandon Myers.
September 16th, 2009 at 8:35 am
hmm I cant figure out when the next game is on in these parts…
September 16th, 2009 at 8:35 am
JaMarcus can be viewed as a successful QB when his yrds per game equals his weight per Lb.
September 16th, 2009 at 8:36 am
La Milicia Negra Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 8:30 am
cant we clone Zach Miller and start 4 of him, at flankers, split and TE ???
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Not sure we can get four but our other TE the meyers kid is good. Not sure why we didnt go double TE sets.
Meyers can block, and has great hands….
September 16th, 2009 at 8:36 am
Why is placing my post way up the board?
September 16th, 2009 at 8:37 am
This place is crazy
September 16th, 2009 at 8:37 am
# exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 8:35 am
JaMarcus can be viewed as a successful QB when his yrds per game equals his weight per Lb.
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JR did TWO great things in the first game…
his great block for JLHs end-around and his zinger on the 4th down…
clearly not enough for 60min…
September 16th, 2009 at 8:40 am
# 4evaRaider Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 8:40 am
I think its the clocks Raider 75
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yeah, maybe they should synchronize their clocks to a NTP service… im 3/100 of a second wrong, and their site here is plus 3 minutes =) LOL is this 1995?
September 16th, 2009 at 8:40 am
I think its the clocks Raider 75
September 16th, 2009 at 8:41 am
So LMN,
You didn’t like the other 4th qtr scoring drive?
Or all those 3rd down conversions in the first half?
TD pass to Murphy to end the 1st half?
September 16th, 2009 at 8:46 am
LOL Bo
September 16th, 2009 at 8:47 am
I would like to see DHB return kickoffs and punts to get him a feel, with his speed kickoff could be dangerous plus he needs to touch the ball
September 16th, 2009 at 8:48 am
Good morning Nation.
What’s good with the Nation?
September 16th, 2009 at 8:49 am
do you guys remember the raiderdaily countdown service?? that was a great tiny site…
September 16th, 2009 at 8:50 am
# Canadian Raider Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 8:47 am
I would like to see DHB return kickoffs and punts to get him a feel, with his speed kickoff could be dangerous plus he needs to touch the ball
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WHAT??? with his ball control?? i have no need to see him fumble the at the 15yd line… its bad enough he cant catch the ball midfield…
September 16th, 2009 at 8:51 am
Nick Miller is our return guy, and he’s going to make it hard for JLH to get his spot back. Hope JLH isn’t out for too long. Tough break.
September 16th, 2009 at 8:54 am
Life in general Raider O…and you???
September 16th, 2009 at 8:55 am
I would love Justin Miller to get back and return for us…
September 16th, 2009 at 8:56 am
JR needs help!!!
Does he have accuracy problems?
I can’t tell! The pass to JLH was perfect ( between 2 Dischargers players), or was it the 2 rookie WRs? DHB dropped 2, and Murphy couldn’t get open in a short slant!
September 16th, 2009 at 9:02 am
4eva,
Family is good, I go to school, I meet people, and I smoke! Life is great!!
You part-time farmer you!!! LMAO I saw that post!!!!
September 16th, 2009 at 9:04 am
Marshall must be fired now. The prevent he used is inexcusable. It cost us an important, week one victory that this team needed. There are mistakes, then there are fatal errors. The longer Al Davis waits to fire him, the longer this team is handicapped by disastrous, inept organizational management.
September 16th, 2009 at 9:06 am
4eva,
They have Surfing classes at SDSU!!! Go Aztecs!!!!
I wonder if can major in that! lol
September 16th, 2009 at 9:06 am
I’ve got to stick with the same prediction I had for the last game. Lead in the 4th quarter, death by the prevent. Al Davis must take action and fire Marshall, now. If any of you liked Marshall’s choice of defense at the end, let me hear about it.
September 16th, 2009 at 9:07 am
Z Miller is a football player. It would be good to see 4 of him.
I was hoping to see more Bendan Myers, on 2TE sets so that Miller had more chances for receptions.
September 16th, 2009 at 9:08 am
Well good Raider O… and that just about covers it =)
September 16th, 2009 at 9:10 am
Morning all.
September 16th, 2009 at 9:12 am
Good morning,..Russell still sucks.
September 16th, 2009 at 9:17 am
You can always give it a try O
September 16th, 2009 at 9:19 am
I’m the Lizard King, and I can do anything!!
I can post in the past, future, and present!
Hollee hooooo
September 16th, 2009 at 9:20 am
Al Davis must take action right now and fire Marshall for that inexcusable defense used at the end of the game. The longer he waits, the longer we wait to see the Raiders turn the corner.
September 16th, 2009 at 9:22 am
160+ yards the last 2 Drives!!!!
Who can be happy with that?
Prevent Defense prevents you from winning the game!
September 16th, 2009 at 9:22 am
lmao O
September 16th, 2009 at 9:22 am
I’m posting from the past.Check out the collar on my shirt and my flared trousers.
September 16th, 2009 at 9:24 am
This team doesn’t turn the corner until we have a defensive coordinator that knows when and when not to use a hail mary prevent. Only Al Davis can make that happen. His ineptitude in hiring a qualified defensive coordinator is cursing this team from competing. A huge win was already ruined. How many more will there be?
September 16th, 2009 at 9:27 am
# Stabler76 Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 9:07 am
Z Miller is a football player. It would be good to see 4 of him.
I was hoping to see more Bendan Myers, on 2TE sets so that Miller had more chances for receptions.
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Absolutely, I just still its to early for him to be a part of this… And Tony Stewart was great, so myers will have to make an effort to get pass him…
September 16th, 2009 at 9:27 am
IF prevent doesn’t work,what will ?
September 16th, 2009 at 9:27 am
If Al Davis can’t hire a defensive coordinator smart enough to know that you don’t use a hail mary prevent when you’re up by 3 with time on the clock, then he should retire and hire a GM that will. This is an issue that has to be addressed immediately. We’re a huge 1-0, something we haven’t been since 2002, if Marshall doesn’t make that fatal error at the end of the game. Al Davis has to fire him, now.
September 16th, 2009 at 9:29 am
Neilb, the same defense we used most of the game, which stopped SD’s passing game. Rivers was looking deep all game and finding nothing. Do you agree with Marshall’s choice of using a hail mary prevent when we’re up by 3, with time on the clock? Are you defending Marshall?
September 16th, 2009 at 9:29 am
# Thec07 Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 8:05 am
jhill Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 7:54 am
jhill Says:
September 15th, 2009 at 11:34 pm
Very interesting defense we played the last drive.
Branch, Huff, and Nnamdi playing 3 deep S with Routt and CJ on the corners. Brown and Howard at LB with a 4 man rush.
I don’t think I’ve seen that look before. Not really trying to see it again unless Bowie is in for Routt.
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Would have been more effective had you put mitchell out to spy the midget…
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or dropping a lineman and BLITZing Mitchell (or a nickel CB/S), for instance, would have imo done the job too.
a fast nick/dime coming from those outside angles will stretch the pockets and will neither allow the QB to sit there comfortably and find an open receiver downfield, wait for the crossing route come to the rescue, his RBs slip out for big gaines etc, nor his tackles help the interiors too long.
and like you guys stated, we had dime or nickel personel in there anyway in the last moments of the game, so there would not be any receivers racing a LB to a deep ball downfield either.
drop a lineman underneath into a short zone, like I saw us doing it successfully already couple times where a DLman picked up the RB, or two, and bring the DBs/LBs responsible for that zone on 3rd and forever and you have a pocket with big ass holes immediatley.
cant understand why they dont mixit up like that and either just blitz or drop in zones…. we are athletic enough to do it upfront too. so its time to show’em the left and hit’em with the right in those freaking situations!!!
it aint that hard, but, like I said above, will more often then not fug up a conventional blocking scheme and have big guys off balance… right NOW, before the crossing route gets there or the RB sneaks out or a deep route developes.
uggh, I thought I saw it coming watching the preseason games. our bradn new zone-blitzing defense…bringing home late leads…and then this… again. with 2.5 mins left in the game. and how many TOs? please…
oh well, its a long season witzh new coaches and players…maybe we will see more creativity ala the Eagles&Giants dees from ours down the road with the good coverage behing them.
September 16th, 2009 at 9:30 am
It was a good start for a team with 2 rookie WRs starting, Seymour playing with no practice ( players were telling him where to lineup), and missing our star WR!
I give the players a B+. They played well.
The coaching was very Vanilla! I give it C.
September 16th, 2009 at 9:30 am
I didn’t see the last 12 mins of the game,I was on my way to work.I don’t like the prevent.I think it’s a gimme for the other team.I’d rather die with my boots on doing what’s worked thoughout the game.
The point I wanted to make was why do coaches always use the prevent when it doesn’t work ?
I’ll give Marshall another chance.
September 16th, 2009 at 9:32 am
The coaching was worse than “vanilla”, Raider O. Marshall’s use of the prevent cost us this win, period. He has to go. Otherwise, he does it again. I promise you this: If Marshall is here Sunday, we’ll blow another 4th quarter lead. We’ll lose in the same fashion we did Monday. I made two predictions before Monday. I said we wouldn’t run the ball, where in which I was obviously wrong, and I said that we would blow a 4th quarter lead, where I was right. Go see for yourself. If Marshall is here Sunday, we blow another 4th quarter lead, with the prevent, again. Al Davis must take action. Until he does, his lack of initiative holds this team back.
September 16th, 2009 at 9:33 am
dang cornell is our starter and schilens out at least till denver, gotta find a way to win the next 2 stay healthy and hopefully by texas we’ll have khalif at RT and schilens our starting wr, dhb sucks
September 16th, 2009 at 9:35 am
I’m not so sure Marshall went to a classic “prevent”…we still rushed four. But the LBs dropped 20+ yards deep in a soft zone. Was their zone supposed to be that deep? Who knows. Did someone drop their assignment to cover the RB drop offs? Who knows.
What I DO know is that our run defense was much more disciplined and effective. Is that all through adding Seymour and Ellis or does Marshall and his scheme get some credit? Who knows.
Our safeties also played better. Does Marshall get credit for Branch, Huff and Eugene stepping up? Probably, since the whole position group improved.
September 16th, 2009 at 9:36 am
Or, maybe Al is too senile to know what’s going on? I mean, he did hire Marshall, and he must have known that Marshall would use a prevent like this, right? Maybe Al supports this defense? If that’s the case, we’re really screwed. When you have an owner who believes in a disastrous defensive scheme, there is no hope. The only way Al Davis can prove that he doesn’t support such a defense, and isn’t senile, is if he replaces Marshall immediately.
September 16th, 2009 at 9:36 am
Hey what do you guys think abou the hit mike mitchell gave?? My thought was it seems like he really do know how to pop, or explode when tackling, id like to see more of him
September 16th, 2009 at 9:36 am
Highlights.
Acording to NFLN and ESPN Murphy’s catch didn’t count, but if his didn’t, why the ufk did Antonio Gate’s catch to the one yard line count?
Watch it at the 1:20 mark…stripped!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezgTInH6rf8
September 16th, 2009 at 9:37 am
Yea, considering we had 2 rookie WR’s
a D-lineman that hasn’t practiced with the team
and we still almost beat the “superbowl contending” chargers, I would say this should be a pretty good season.
11-5. You heard it here first.
September 16th, 2009 at 9:38 am
572. You really are an idiot.
September 16th, 2009 at 9:38 am
Rivers should have left the game on a stretcher….
September 16th, 2009 at 9:39 am
Bo, what difference does it make how good the run defense is if our DC is going to hit the kill switch and go to a prevent at the end, when we’re up by 3? And, the linebackers were dropping back too far to compare this prevent with what other teams use toward the end of games, where the linebackers make the tackle right at the spot of the catch. We were giving up 10 yards a play, by way of scheme! There was nobody in position to stop the play short of it. This is when we’re up by 3, with time on the clock. Bo, do you support this defense? Are you defending that prevent defense?
September 16th, 2009 at 9:39 am
@the gates catch.
I am wondering this as well. Its pretty much the same thing. Both lost the ball after hitting the ground but were technically still in the “act of catching the ball” One of them has to be the wrong call.
September 16th, 2009 at 9:40 am
take care guys… im heading home to get some dinner…
September 16th, 2009 at 9:40 am
btw, the DC made a mistake. They admitted it. It was his first game as DC, give him a break. At least he said it would be fixed in the future instead of just denying it.
September 16th, 2009 at 9:40 am
John Marshall is an idiot. And Al Davis appears to be an idiot until he takes the initiative of replacing him.
September 16th, 2009 at 9:41 am
575. yeah, but everybody knows this team can lay down like a $5 wh-ore.
I hope Seymour keeps them from it.
I hope Seymour’s not shocked and dismayed once he starts practicing.
Nobodies willing to give the Raiders props, but if they play D like they did against SD all season, yeah, I could see them winning.
The O doesn’t have a Seymour to kick them in the azz.
Schilens was a spark plug, but hasn’t been healthy enough to be infectiously enthusiastic and productive.
September 16th, 2009 at 9:41 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 9:40 am
John Marshall is an idiot. And Al Davis appears to be an idiot until he takes the initiative of replacing him.
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Rant all you like with your secoind hand accounts. No way you actually watched the game. Oaklands “Old school 70s 80s offense” kicked the living hell outa SD. Their O line may not recover this SEASON.
Even the ESPN guys were raving about it.
In fact, it was so olde school Raiders they even went prevent and lost.
That needs to change, not the D coord.
I do not get how you build your Defense as a pass rushing coverage team unit and then NOT unleash them for the specific thing they were designed to do.
Stop the pass. Win the game!
September 16th, 2009 at 9:42 am
Thec07 Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 9:38 am
Rivers should have left the game on a stretcher….
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Not a single professional player ever wishes an injury on others.
Only those that never have played the game, on any level.
How old are you again?
September 16th, 2009 at 9:43 am
maddenraiderfan,
It was no mistake. It was a fatal error. Anybody who thinks we should keep Marshall after monday night does not care rather or not this team wins. And that includes Al Davis. If Al Davis doesn’t replace Marshall today, it means Al DAvis does not want to win. Ther’es no way around it. That prevent cost us such an important win. Everybody else worked their butts off, and they won! Then Marhsall does this. If Al Davis isn’t smart enough to see what’s going on, then he has to retire, and hire a GM who can see it. We need a coaching staff that knows how to win, not one that tries stupid ideas at pivotal moments,.
September 16th, 2009 at 9:44 am
I understand that Russell was wild at times. But when he left the field his team was leading with 2:30 to go. Why when you have the chargers at their own 10 yard line you don’t send pressure is just nuts. I hope it’s better vs the chiefs. 0-2 would start my nba season early.
September 16th, 2009 at 9:44 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 9:39 am
Bo, what difference does it make how good the run defense is if our DC is going to hit the kill switch and go to a prevent at the end, when we’re up by 3?
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It means a lot. Good run D means we may actually be up far enough in the fourth Q to justify a classic prevent.
September 16th, 2009 at 9:45 am
589. I don’t engage and argue with idiots who eschew logic and reason for their own stubborn, foolish, baseless, delusions.
If you hadn’t noitced, Oaklands sieve like run D destroyed the Chargers who gained 77 yds on the ground.
Marshall was brought in to make us a better pass rushing team. THATS what he does. Look what he’s done with Seymour and the run D.
I’d say thats worth giving him at least one more week
September 16th, 2009 at 9:45 am
DirtyBathWater Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 9:36 am
Hey what do you guys think abou the hit mike mitchell gave?? My thought was it seems like he really do know how to pop, or explode when tackling, id like to see more of him
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The one just feet in front of him?
Where the receiver popped up immediately?
Was a freeby that did little.
September 16th, 2009 at 9:46 am
563 LMN
Yeah, Stewart did play a good game at TE.
I hope this week we attack the KC QB and knock him out of the game. We had a chance to do that with Rivers in the 3rd quarter Monday night.
September 16th, 2009 at 9:48 am
593. You just come in here and try to make everything **** for the Raiders don’t you? You’d find something wrong to bish about if we just won the Super Bowl.
Alot of good came outa that game and all U can think about is firing someone for calling the same D we’ve called for time immemorial.
Stifle yourself. Take your negativity and ridiculous, unsubstantiated opinions elsewhere me lady…
September 16th, 2009 at 9:48 am
Seymour can have the year of his life and it won’t matter if Marshall is still here, Nnamdi. Get that through your head. Seymour had a great game monday. Didn’t matter. When you have a d coordinator as irresponsible as John Marshall, all 11 guys can have a career game, and we’ll lose. Get a clue, dude. You act like you know something about football. I don’t see it.
September 16th, 2009 at 9:49 am
The game would have been over at half-time if we still had Ryan as D coach.If you want to get rid of Marshall,after his first game with the Raiders,who do have lined up to replace ? You must have a name ready.
September 16th, 2009 at 9:51 am
maddenraiderfan,
It was Marshall’s first game? What? He was Seattle’s defensive coordinator before he came here, and has been in the league 30 years! You graduated at the top of your class, didn’t you? Do you guys know anything about football? Or do you just come in here and try to make everything with the Raiders seem OK?
September 16th, 2009 at 9:54 am
Man why are you guys soo quick to throw people under the bus? That’s why your not the damn owner because if it was up to you we would have a new coach every single year, stop being unreasonable and let things play out for this season marshall shouldn’t be fired at all let things fall where they fall before you cast judgement on people especially after one game
September 16th, 2009 at 9:55 am
Nnamdi21, wow. Great point. We had a good run defense. Did us a lot of good, didn’t it? Do you know anything about football? You do realize the object of the game is winning, and not just having a good run defense, don’t you? You do realize that we had the game won till we went to the prevent at the end, don’t you? Maybe you don’t. Maybe that’s the problem. I’m arguing with someone who doesn’t even know that the object of the game is to have more points than the opposing team. You’re probably just a fan for the uniforms, or whatever. I’m sorry I bothered.
September 16th, 2009 at 9:55 am
neilb Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 9:27 am
IF prevent doesn’t work,what will ?
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Pick a clique’
“Stay the course”
“If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.”
“Be careful what you wish for”
Or in Al’s case “Stupid is as stupid does”
September 16th, 2009 at 9:56 am
MR’s attitude:
Good coaching = despite Al (i.e. Cable)
Coaching errors = Al’s fault (i.e. Marshall)
Could this bozo be more transparently two-faced?
http://www.insidesocal.com/sgvcrime/bozo-the-clown.jpg
September 16th, 2009 at 9:56 am
Richochet Says:
The one just feet in front of him?
Where the receiver popped up immediately?
Was a freeby that did little.
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Spoken like someone that has never given or taken a hit at any level of football.
September 16th, 2009 at 9:57 am
DirtyBathWater, if it were up to me, I’d have a coach smart enough to not use a hail mary prevent when up by 3 with time on the clock. If I had to go through a defensive coordinator a week to find one, so be it. What I want to know is: Why did Al Davis hire him to begin with? Didn’t he know Marshall liked this prevent? Poor management, if you ask me. And, the only way he can redeem himself is if he replaces him before noon today. Otherwise, Al Davis must support that defense. And if that’s the case, there’s no hope because our team is being controlled by senile moron. But Al can prove otherwise. All he has to do is fire Marshall, now.
September 16th, 2009 at 9:58 am
The late Hunter S. Thompson – no stranger to depravity himself – once called Oakland Raiders fans, “beyond doubt the sleaziest and rudest and most sinister mob of thugs and wackos ever assembled in such numbers under a single ‘roof,’ so to speak, anywhere in the English-speaking world.”
GO RAIDERS
September 16th, 2009 at 9:58 am
Clique? you mean cliche, idiot?
September 16th, 2009 at 10:00 am
598. I agree we shouldn’t run the prevent D.
I don’t agree we should fire the D coord and yes, the run D’s improvement is a HUGE deal you moron.
I DO understand the point is winning DO YOU?
There is more than ONE GAME to the season though or didn’t you realize that?
Yet after ONE GAME you want the D coord fired for calling the prevent that was exectued poorly by our questionable LBs?
Your the idiot who understands nothing of football.
September 16th, 2009 at 10:00 am
Nnamdi agreed… a lot of good did come out of that game.Looks like we had a great training camp and now they just need2 play some ball
September 16th, 2009 at 10:00 am
Is Cassell starting ? Is this another throw back game .. same uniforms as monday night ? What’s up with Walker?
Inquiring minds want to know .. Jerry
September 16th, 2009 at 10:01 am
Of course she’s never taken a hit. Rickochit is a woman! Or should we use her real name – It’s Ann Killion!!! Her feminine writng stlye gave it away. All those cut and pastes, constanly trying to prove her point. Those little poofy names she calls people when she scolds them. Come on. Surprised you didn’t see it sooner.
September 16th, 2009 at 10:02 am
Bo, it’s not Al’s fault. It’s Marshall’s fault, which is why Al needs to fire him. If Al Davis doesn’t fire him, then it’s Al’s fault too. Al is the owner of the team, and heads football operations. Unless you can come up with a name higher on the pecking order of football operations than Al. Al hired Marshall, so he’s responsible for that horrible defensive coaching at least in that regard. But Al can redeem himself by making the coaching change, since he’s the only one who can do it. You’re a little slow, aren’t you?
September 16th, 2009 at 10:03 am
603. Your a joke. I fart in your general direction…
I’m sorry I engaged you and kan’t help but feel a little stupider for it…
Good bye
September 16th, 2009 at 10:05 am
No more infield, John Marshall made our defense look like 11 Ann Killions on that last drive. If Al Davis doesn’t replace him immediately, he’s not serious about winning. Maybe he’s senile.
September 16th, 2009 at 10:07 am
It’s ok, Nnamdi 21. There’s a lot of Raider fans who are just fans for the uniforms, and don’t know that the object of the game is to have more points than the opposing team, and not just a better run defense. You can see a lot of them at the games. If you’re having fun, it’s all good. But please leave the football discussion to those of us who actually know that the object of the game is to have the winning score. OK?
September 16th, 2009 at 10:08 am
Nnamdi, now you’re saying it was executed poorly? First you say that Marshall made a mistake, now you’re blaming the players for not executing it, and hence defending the scheme? You are a joke!
September 16th, 2009 at 10:11 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 9:43 am
It was no mistake. It was a fatal error. Anybody who thinks we should keep Marshall after monday night does not care rather or not this team wins. And that includes Al Davis. If Al Davis doesn’t replace Marshall today, it means Al DAvis does not want to win. Ther’es no way around it. That prevent cost us such an important win. Everybody else worked their butts off, and they won! Then Marhsall does this. If Al Davis isn’t smart enough to see what’s going on, then he has to retire, and hire a GM who can see it. We need a coaching staff that knows how to win, not one that tries stupid ideas at pivotal moments,.
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I suppose firing DC after 1 week will bring us wins, not locker room turbulence or another distraction. -lmao
By the way, you should actually read some of Jerry’s posts. Willie Shaw did the same thing his first game and then apologized and had a great defense the rest of the year.
September 16th, 2009 at 10:12 am
Why though have all the DC’s we’ve had run the prevent? Is it part of the package Al likes to run? It’s beyond comprehension. Time and time again we’ve lost a game because of the scheme. Just run a nickel and stay aggressive. that would have been a great time to blitz IMO. Play to win. Go out fighting.
September 16th, 2009 at 10:15 am
JaMarcus is a fat loser and he has body odor.
September 16th, 2009 at 10:15 am
The ground cannot cause a fumble. dude had two feet and his ass on the ground. I’m so sick of the Raiders getting screwed
September 16th, 2009 at 10:17 am
I can not make this up, folks.
# Nnamdi21 Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 10:00 am
“598. I agree we shouldn’t run the prevent D.”
(then, in the same comment!)
“…you want the D coord fired for calling the prevent that was exectued poorly by our questionable LBs?”
………
F A I L!!!!!
September 16th, 2009 at 10:17 am
# RaiderRobG Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 10:15 am
The ground cannot cause a fumble. dude had two feet and his ass on the ground. I’m so sick of the Raiders getting screwed
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Dude let it go. That isn’t the ONLY play that lost the game for us. How bout our crappy QB? How bout our Prevent D? How bout the second half play calling? That one play alone didn’t lose that game. Yeah it sucked, but it is what it is. Murphy should have hung onto the ball, then we aren’t having this conversation.
September 16th, 2009 at 10:18 am
Richochet Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 9:42 am
Thec07 Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 9:38 am
Rivers should have left the game on a stretcher….
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Not a single professional player ever wishes an injury on others.
Only those that never have played the game, on any level.
How old are you again?
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Good Morning to you to Ms. Richochet…. How are you doing this fine day? Took time off your busy media job to interject your useless bable on us common guys right.
Again lying and putting words in ones mouth really not appropriete, but considering you are a female and all, and can become quite emotional I will give you a pass, as I allways do.
Read what i poseted and its clear that you enjoy add libing, and making this wild assumtions. Not getting enough attention at home eh??????
As before you lied never got your answer to my question Ms. Richochet…..
Were you at the Seymour press conference?
As allways thanks for playing, enjoy the banter…LOL
September 16th, 2009 at 10:20 am
If you ever go back through the old posts doing some fact checking take a read of some of Mrs. Richochits, (ANN KILLION) and see how many times she slips up and says “WE” when talking about the 49’s…
September 16th, 2009 at 10:20 am
The chiefs gave up 200 yrds rushing and 300yrds passing yet they’re favored by 3.
September 16th, 2009 at 10:21 am
Richochet Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 9:42 am
Not a single professional player ever wishes an injury on others.
Only those that never have played the game, on any level.
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You are wrong. I played up to JC, and I wish LT, Merriwoman, and Rivers snapped their legs Theisman style and could never play again. That would be BAD AZZ!!
September 16th, 2009 at 10:22 am
No more infield, are you saying that it was actually Al Davis who called the prevent?
September 16th, 2009 at 10:22 am
# Lynn from Snot Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 10:20 am
The chiefs gave up 200 yrds rushing and 300yrds passing yet they’re favored by 3.
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That is due to the inadequacy of our very overweight, over paid QB.
September 16th, 2009 at 10:23 am
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 10:25 am
Well, I’m out of here.
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Good riddance. Do us all a favor, and don’t come back, EVER.
September 16th, 2009 at 10:24 am
Richochet Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 9:42 am
Not a single professional player ever wishes an injury on others.
Only those that never have played the game, on any level.
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Go back and play Madden and leave the real football talk to the men.
September 16th, 2009 at 10:24 am
No one is more pissed about that game than me.However,Im looking at the good that came out of that game.The refs clearly blew Murphys TD catch,and we shouldn’t have went to the prevent D.If John Marshall goes to that prevent D again in a close game then he needs to be let go.Im hoping he learns from his mistakes,if not SEE YA. Our Raiders played a great game overall with heart and passion.If we continue to play hard like that every game then its only going to get better.
September 16th, 2009 at 10:25 am
Well, I’m out of here. Nnamdi 21, I’ll check in later to see if you’ve made up your mind yet as to rather we shouldn’t have run the prevent, or that it was merely just executed poorly. LOL. Go ahead, take time to think about it. Later, believers.
September 16th, 2009 at 10:29 am
I don’t know MR. We run the same damn thing no matter who the DC is. Why?
September 16th, 2009 at 10:31 am
Raiders getting 3? Good I’ll make money this week too.
September 16th, 2009 at 10:32 am
Off to watch the football……have a good ‘un.
September 16th, 2009 at 10:33 am
What tape is Todd HAiley watching? Jamarcus Russell is very accurate???
Q: Can you talk a bit about their (Raiders) quarterback position?
HALEY: “I think this young quarterback at least from what I’ve seen this year is much improved. He’s a big, strong, athletic guy who can run and can hurt you in a bunch of ways. He has an extremely strong arm and he can be very accurate. I think he showed some of that last night. He’s a hard sack, even if you get to him it’s not going to be easy to get him down because he is so big and strong. I think he is the complete package and with a year under his belt I think you’ll see him get better and better.”
September 16th, 2009 at 10:35 am
Unfortunately I am on board with those that are questioning JaMarcus, while he may eventually turn out to be a solid NFL QB it’s not going to be this year…who doesn’t think we wouldn’t have won the game with Garcia at QB?
Aside from his obvious accuracy issues, the bigger issue is his inablity to move around the pocket and throw on the move. Pocket presence and feel are IMHO innate abilities that he does not seem to posses in abundance. Anyone see Mark Sanchez? I can tell you now that he will be a legitimate NFL QB soon b/c he has that knack. JaMarcus looks like Raiders era Kerry Collins, whenever there is pressure in the pocket he throws with his weight moving back, which leads to poor accuracy.
In addition, would love for JaMarcus to learn to use his size in the pocket. Someone needs to play him a Ben Rothlisberger hightlight reel, I know you can’t be what you aren’t but making some plays in the pocket, using his body to step into throws while defenders are all around are things he can do right now. The Steelers love Big Ben’s heart, even if he does take a ton of sacks.
Finally, Al takes a lot of flack but give him props for the Seymour deal, great pickup on so many levels. The two biggest issues I saw in preseason were Satele at C and Scott at DE, happy to see these deficiencies were addressed. Now if they can just figure out that when Chaz returns he it’s DHB that sits and not Murphy.
September 16th, 2009 at 10:39 am
i recreated a spreadsheet like the one i had in the early 90’s…
this is what it tells me will happen this weekend:
Oakland
1st Downs 22
Total Plays 70
Total Yards 400
Passing 180
Rushing 220
Yards per rush 4.7
Kansas City
1st Downs 16
Total Plays 54
Total Yards 220
Passing 160
Rushing 60
Final Score
Raiders 31
Kansas City 13
September 16th, 2009 at 10:42 am
trade Fargas to the NY Giants, they are looking for a RB.
September 16th, 2009 at 10:42 am
“I am not fat! It’s glandular.” JaMarcus Russell
http://www.odditycentral.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/fattest_man.jpg
September 16th, 2009 at 10:44 am
No More Infield or Trolls Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 10:20 am
If you ever go back through the old posts doing some fact checking take a read of some of Mrs. Richochits, (ANN KILLION) and see how many times she slips up and says “WE” when talking about the 49’s…
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Its easy to determine who Ms. richochet really is. I have been waiting a couple of days now for my answer, and she has to give it to me.
Ms. Richochet were you at the Seymour presser?
September 16th, 2009 at 10:48 am
Thankx Exla…that is totally disgusting
September 16th, 2009 at 10:50 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 9:43 am
maddenraiderfan,
It was no mistake. It was a fatal error. Anybody who thinks we should keep Marshall after monday night does not care ***** rather ***** or not this team wins.
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it’s “whether” you nitwit…
WHETHER
W H E T H E R
whether…
right now… from you… even “weather” would be acceptable…
September 16th, 2009 at 10:54 am
Norco Bob,
You’re a jerk and have no idea what you’re talking about. You give a bad name to Raiders fans. Just shut up already.
September 16th, 2009 at 10:59 am
Einstein Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 10:23 am
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 10:25 am
Well, I’m out of here.
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Good riddance. Do us all a favor, and don’t come back, EVER.
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Einstein (lol) you can only speak for yourself
September 16th, 2009 at 11:00 am
Florida Pete Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 10:39 am
i recreated a spreadsheet like the one i had in the early 90’s…
this is what it tells me will happen this weekend:
Oakland
1st Downs 22
Total Plays 70
Total Yards 400
Passing 180
Rushing 220
Yards per rush 4.7
Kansas City
1st Downs 16
Total Plays 54
Total Yards 220
Passing 160
Rushing 60
Final Score
Raiders 31
Kansas City 13
September 16th, 2009 at 11:08 am
Too many wannabe’s like Narcotics Boob, Einstein, etc. It’s not about the Raiders or football to them. Rather, it’s about them trying to live their sorry lives vicariously through an image that their delusional minds perceive through pop culture.
Essentially disconnected to society, they crave.
September 16th, 2009 at 11:10 am
I dont see what the big deal over JR. He struggled in his 1st game, but the WRs have been horrible. The guy was 6-6 to Z. Miller.
These guys crying about JR are probably the same guys who were chearing whin Rich Gannon got hurt. I think he will be a great QB once he can actually get some consistent WR play.
I was encouraged at the grit he showed coming back from injury and the look of distraught on his face during the post game interview. He said that words cannot explain how dissapinted he was. That’s encouraging.
September 16th, 2009 at 11:20 am
In Russell’s defense, He looked good at the end of last season and people were complimenting him on his accuracy and the fact that he didn’t throw picks. His ratio of TD’s to int was pretty good. The knock was that he was throwing too hard with not enough touch. Monday night his Wr’s were rookies and he’s obviously not on the same page with them yet. But he is with Miller and he is with Schillens. I also think he was trying to throw with more touch with bad results… Russell will figure it out.
September 16th, 2009 at 11:22 am
Why would the NYG want Fargas you can draft a “Fargas” in the 6th or 7th round every year in the draft.
The only ones who want Fargas are a few nit wit Raider fans and whoever is coaching Oakland.
# Simon Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 10:42 am
trade Fargas to the NY Giants, they are looking for a RB.
September 16th, 2009 at 11:24 am
Anybody who DVR’d the game heard Steve Young rip Russell. Basically callin him a “dumb” Qb. I think Young knows something about playing Qb but you koolaid sipping brain deads keep the excuses coming it makes for good material.
September 16th, 2009 at 11:35 am
No More Infield or Trolls Says:
Boy :aha: That’s a stupid name
September 16th, 2009 at 11:35 am
Mista,
You DVR’d the game and all you have to say is what Steve Young said?
Obviously that commentary was scripted.
JRuss had a really good 1st half and 4th qtr.
You couldn’t have possibly rewatched the game on DVR.
JRuss misses a pass on 2nd down, and them comes back on 3rd down with a strike for a 1st down, and they still can’t get off the miss right before that. COMICAL.
The play where you are talking about Young saying Jamarcus needs to only see half the field, LOL, he’s trying to explain it on the replay and Jamarcus does the exact OPPOSITE of what Young says. Jamarcus dropped back, looked at only half the field, then checked down to a RB on the OTHER SIDE OF THE FIELD.
It was HILARIOUS!
September 16th, 2009 at 11:38 am
Here’s SanDiego next week…
Baltimore
1st Downs 25.5
Total Plays 75
Total Yards 433.5
Passing 260.5
Rushing 173
Yards per rush 4.7
San Diego
1st Downs 15
Total Plays 63.5
Total Yards 252.5
Passing 199.5
Rushing 112.5
Final Score
Baltimore 31
San Diego 24
September 16th, 2009 at 11:39 am
All lame calls against the Raiders have a name, ie….the tuck, the imacculate reception…etc. How about naming Murphys first NFL touchdown—’The Rook’
September 16th, 2009 at 11:40 am
Steve young is probably the last person I would trust when it comes to telling us if our QB is good.
I like how Mike and Mike seems to be very annoyed by most of his comments throughout the entire game.
September 16th, 2009 at 11:44 am
Mistabrown Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 11:22 am
The only ones who want Fargas are a few nit wit Raider fans and whoever is coaching Oakland.
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The players and coaches voted him as their most inspirational player and voted him team captain. They are all NFL players or coaches. You, on the other hand, are a known moron. I have to take a chance and go out on a limb here, but I am siding with the NFLers. And BTW, the “Great” Sanchez’s Jets ran 40+ times for almost 200 yards in his lst game. If I had an offense that ran like that against another opponent, I would probably have a great game at QB too you idiotic dummass.
September 16th, 2009 at 11:45 am
Mistabrown,
I do not recall Young calling Russell a dumb QB?
He made a number of bad throws out there (no doubt)but I think to call him dumb is inaccurate. He actually did a good job of maanging the clock and reading the defense. He called at least three auditables that I recall. He also has a low interception ratio but he actually threw two balls that should have been picked off and one that was picked off but was all Murphys fault for tipping the ball up into the air.
What I do recall Young saying is he haas to stop playing one side of the field and locking on to his WRs, which I could not agree with more. Russel needs to do a better job of looking players off. In all honesty, his WRs could have ran better routes as well. Zach Miller and Chaz are the best router runners that we have.
I look for Russel to improve when Chaz is back in the game and I also look for Russel to loose weight over the summer around the waste line.
September 16th, 2009 at 11:45 am
Here’s the Denver game next week:
Cleveland
1st Downs 16.5
Total Plays 61.5
Total Yards 287.5
Passing 200
Rushing 87.5
Yards per rush 3.85
Denver
1st Downs 14.5
Total Plays 57
Total Yards 306
Passing 156
Rushing 80.5
Final Score
Cleveland 13
Denver 23
September 16th, 2009 at 11:54 am
How did Cleveland get 61.5 plays
September 16th, 2009 at 11:56 am
Excellent, team captain Fargas can call the coin toss— just dont give him the ball – give it to DMAC & Bush
September 16th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
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September 17th, 2009 at 5:57 pm
We have our coach. cable is the best coach we’ve had since Gruden. easily.with better QB play we would have won against SD easily.
September 17th, 2009 at 8:50 pm
Yo Russell try looking off the safety, and pump faking a few times, quit getting your WR’s killed, wake up!!! NFL=NOT FOR LONG.
September 18th, 2009 at 1:11 am
running game looked real nice. D was good until the 4th quarter play calling. miller and murphy played great. quit bashing russell hes got a great arm (wish we woulda signed vick though hehe)
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