Hiram a good “catcher”
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, September 16th, 2009 at 3:52 pm in Oakland Raiders.
The sneak peek afforded the media Wednesday while Hiram Eugene struggled to field punt returns apparently is not an accurate barometer of his skills.
Coach Tom Cable said that if Johnnie Lee Higgins can’t play against the Kansas City Chiefs Sunday, either Eugene or Javon Walker return punts and the Raiders were not likely to sign someone to take over the speciality.
Higgins didn’t practice Wednesday with a shoulder sprain and Cable said he was `questionable” to face the Chiefs. Miller, Cable confirmed, will be out four to six weeks with a crack in his shin just above the ankle and as of now there are no plans to put the undrafted rookie on injured reserve, which would end his season.
Eugene has not returned a punt in his NFL career. Cable said Walker had returned punts earlier in his career, but his stats show 35 kickoff returns as a rookie for 769 yards and nothing since.
They would be counted on to do more than simply throw up their hand, signaling for a fair catch.
“You’ve got to have your return game, and you’ve got to do your deal,” Cable said. “Hiram’s a terrific catcher, and probably the best of the group in that regard. And then obviously with Javon having done it earlier in his career. It’s a benefit to us now that with the injuries, he’s gonna be active this week, play, all those things. So we’ll have him available.”
More news, notes and quotes from Wednesday:
– As noted above, Cable committed to activating Walker against the Chiefs a day after saying the receiver would need to exhibit enough speed and separation to be effective.
That will come as welcome news to Walker, who said he didn’t know if he would be active during the open locker room session and was willing to wait patiently for a chance.
“I feel like I am a receiver still in my prime. I am still young just 30 years old. A lot of the top receivers are my age or a year older. It’s kind of difficult because I am in a situation where all the receivers here are a year or two years,” Walker said. “That is just the politics of football and you got some young guys, and I mean young. If you look at it statistically everybody here is young. That might be the direction they are going in. I am just playing my role for what it is right now.”
– Cable said Khalif Barnes is practicing without restrictions and could conceivably be active for the Chiefs game. Chaz Schilens (broken foot) and Nick Miller have already been declared out. Running back Justin Fargas practiced without restrictions and is expected to play.
– Cable said the Chiefs have blended some of coach Todd Haley’s passing offense (he was offensive coordiantor for the Arizona Cardinals last season) with the existing Kansas City running game.
“They’re a little bit of both, and Johnson is still a great runner,” Cable said. “There’s no question about that, when he gets his pads downhill at you he’s a load, and he’s got great speed. But you’ve also seen them being more spread, and throwing the ball around a little bit.”
– Isaiah Ekejuiba felt the Raiders’ special teams put the Raiders defense in a difficult situaiton by allowing 66 and 59 yard kickoff returns by Darren Sproles.
“I was very disappointed. Very disappointed,” Ekejiuba said. “Our defense played great, and we gave the Chargers two short fields. And that’s unacceptable for a division game that’s this close. So when you do that, you have to go back and re-evaluate where you are and where you want to be. And obviously this is not where we want to be. We have a lot of work to do.”
– Haley, offensive coordinator for the NFC champion Arizona Cardinals last season, coached receivers in the NFL from 1996 through 2006 with the Jets, Bears and Cowboys. He sees starting two rookie wide receivers, as the Raiders did in Week 1, a difficult task.
“The receiver position is a tough position to play and adjust to,” Haley said. “I’ve coached it for a long time and . . . even for high picks its rare to come in and make a smooth transition. The speed of the game is so different. The complexity of the coverages that you’re seeing is so great. It just makes for a tough transition, and it’s rare that young guys can come in and make a huge impact and when they do, I’m really impressed.”
– Cable said that part of Darrius Heyward-Bey’s job is to create open areas for others but wanted to see all parts of his game improve.
“I mentioned a couple of weeks ago about how he’s already pulling coverage toward him because of his speed, and that definitely showed up,” Cable said. “And that is a part of his responsibility, and a big part. But at the same time he’s got to grow in all facets, whether it’s blocking, catching, running the route, pulling the coverage, whatever that is, you just want to get him as close to a complete player as quickly as we can.”
– Cable estimated free safety Michael Huff for 30 or more plays, mostly on passing downs. Huff intercepted a pass and recovered a fumble.
“He was absolutely tremendous,” Cable said. “Not one coverage bust, got everybody aligned, made some calls and, obviously, the two great plays.”
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September 16th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
By the way unless he can play QUARTERBACK it doesnt matter how well he can catch
September 16th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
re-sign justin miller. eugene, walker, oh hell no
September 16th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
what???
September 16th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
Maybe Cable or Al did not Like J. Miller? How else do you explain not resigning him when he ran back, if I remember correctly, two to the house? Maybe he does not want to come back. Who knows….Jerry, get on this.
September 16th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
Um, ya… ok.
JLH will certainly be missed on special teams if he can’t make it. The poor kick coverage eluded to will not be.
Javon’s first TD in a year on a punt return?
I’ll drink (kool aid) to that.
By the way, you guys see JLH’s New Jack look? Somebody tell ol boy he has got to be the corniest guy in the league.
That being said, I can’t wait to see one of his awful dances, ’cause you know what that means.
September 16th, 2009 at 4:10 pm
got to have the same intensity 4 this game. kc is definetly not going to roll over in their home opener.i seen alot of their game vs. the ravens and they matched baltimore step by step all the way thru the 4th quarter.bowe looks to be game this year , no drops, and they got some wr bradley that made some clutch catches last week. what really hurt their d was heap, so miller should look to have a big game. and of course we cannot forget about our run game. just keep running until they can stop it.
September 16th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
Good job Huff!
September 16th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
I think J. Miller was released due to injury and because N. Miller is a better receiver than Justin is a corner.
Didn’t plan on the rookie going down.
Also, if they dress Fargas, count Rankin out as return guy. It seems as though they need Rankin, just for that role, but you know that the coaching staff wants to see Fargas on the field.
September 16th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
Think Garcia is still on the Philly roster when we play the Eagles?
David White: “So Jeff, you’d rather be the #4 guy in Philly than the #2 guy in Oakland?”
September 16th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
Justin Miller has turf toe problems. He is not a viable returner with this injury. That’s why he looked so poorly during the preseason. He won’t be healed until next year minimally. No on Justin Miller.
September 16th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
jhill,..sitting behind mcnabb is ok,..sitting behind russell is ridiculous as hell, Jeff knew he was better then russell.
September 16th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
dhb’s comments are odd but i bet the coaches assured him he’s doing ok because of the deep decoy he is.lets not fool ourselves
September 16th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
Ok, Bob … I can buy that.
But sitting behind Kolb?
Whose sitting behind Vick?
Whose sitting behind McNabb?
September 16th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
K.C. will be as amped up for us as we were for the Chargers. They are going to come out hard and we must take the crowd out of the game early. That’s the facts because Stone Cold Said So!
September 16th, 2009 at 4:18 pm
i recreated a spreadsheet like the one i had in the early 90’s…
this is what it tells me will happen this weekend:
Oakland
1st Downs 22
Total Plays 70
Total Yards 400
Passing 180
Rushing 220
Yards per rush 4.7
Kansas City
1st Downs 16
Total Plays 54
Total Yards 220
Passing 160
Rushing 60
Final Score
Raiders 31
Kansas City 13
September 16th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
He’ll ya huff had a great game. So did Branch. DHB will be fine. Get him a reverse and a slant early and he’ll get some confidence going.
September 16th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
Asking for you release is not the example I want anyone on the Raiders to follow. Except maybe Fargas.
September 16th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
If russell plays sunday, there is zero chances for a win,..and of course russell is playing so you can forget about it,..oakland will be 0-2.
September 16th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
And Chris Johnson was the best DB on the field last night.
September 16th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
Garcia should be here starting.
September 16th, 2009 at 4:23 pm
I’m sure many of you would disagree, but I think Garcia makes us a better team.
If nothing else than to be a backup. Have him continue to lead by example as opposed to a mentor role and taking Russell in his lap and showing him the ropes.
Well, actually, Garcia might be open to that…
Just kidding, Jeff.
Not really.
I’m out, Nation. Be good.
September 16th, 2009 at 4:23 pm
Garcia wanted out because the whole league knows russell starting is a joke.
September 16th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
Ok garcia is gone,…so start gradkowski,..hes our best chance at a win….russell gives us no chance at all.
September 16th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
i’m not giving up on russell yet but his accuracy is brutal. that turn ‘em loose attitude isn’t a very good idea just yet if our running game can be dominant. play downhill until u absolutely have to pass. 1st drive mon. was perfect until… play-action, no pressure, room all over the place to run or just pump fake, then delivers a strike to the defense. i notice all qb’s pump fake but i’ll go on record to say i don’t remember jr never doing it. comon dogg, lets go!
September 16th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
Yea I saw JLH’s new hairdo the hi-top. At first I was like Dam! He got hit so hard that his hair is standing straight up…lol
September 16th, 2009 at 4:30 pm
it’s called the “high top”???
just looking at it…
i would have called it the Bart Simpson…
September 16th, 2009 at 4:33 pm
9/20 1:00 ET At Kansas City -3 Oakland 38.5
here’s the opening line on the game…
i have 44 points in my note above @ 4:18…
September 16th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
final score sunday will be,…KC wins it… 37-17
September 16th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
We CANNOT afford a costly turnover on a punt return against KC this week!!!!!
September 16th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
By the way did anyone see the hit Mitchelle put on sproles on 1 of his kick returns, BOOM! right in the gut. He got all pumped up, good to see.
KC game old rival should be good, the ravens D looked shell shocked they didnt look like they did when Rex was there coach. So KC can be had easily if we play with the same emotion and heart.
September 16th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
at the end of the day we blew 2 4th quarter leads. jr could of had us way ahead but he did his job when he hit murph deep. r.i.p. monday night loss, lets look forward now.
September 16th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
KC won’t score 37 points in their next 3 games combined.
September 16th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
The D laid down when it counted.
September 16th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
great post AZ they r getting better the d wore down and going to that soft zone was just plain stupid but things r looking up
September 16th, 2009 at 4:44 pm
KILL THE QUEEFS!
September 16th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
i’m out; need some fresh smog
September 16th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
Kell what we cant afford is another game started by russell.
September 16th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
Yeah we blew that game in which we dominated 99% of. If we can’t take that as a step in the right direction though we need to find another team to follow. I can’t believe I still read this BS here about how Russell sucks and Cable sucks and everyone sucks when it was obvious this team is getting better every day.
All skeptics should STFU and watch the Raiders grow. Week 1 is over. Onto the next game already.
September 16th, 2009 at 4:48 pm
AZ Raider,
They have to translate that effort into wins. That’s what’s so disappointing. Had the coaches not retreated into prevent mode and trusted their players….everyone would be talking about the maturation of this team.
But they lost…Hell they played well in games last year. They have to take that next step! K.C and Denver are must win games!
September 16th, 2009 at 4:48 pm
I’m out.
RAIDER ON!
9-7!
September 16th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
BS/kell,…thats your theory,..but the rest of us know russell sucks and cost the raiders the mnf game.
September 16th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
AZ…the raiders choked,..are gutless and will get blown out by the chiefs. Im just keepin it real man.
September 16th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
J RUSS NEVER PUMP FAKES!!!!
September 16th, 2009 at 4:54 pm
We won’t win many games until we start blitzing. I watched the Pittsburgh-Tennesee game and the Steelers were blitzing on almost every play.
September 16th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
Thanks kell,…riveting report. lol
September 16th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
I am ignoring the Russell haters. You guys have your agenda so have at it.
I watched the game and understand the history. Russell is okay right now. He made the play to win the game with it all on the line. He had several drives down field…threw 2 TD passes and the 2 ints were not on him.
If you are not Super Bowl bound…you better be developing a young QB.
September 16th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
Having 2 rookie receivers starting was a very questionable move considering one of those rookies hadn’t demonstrated much.
JLH or Walker should have started.
I have a bad feeling that the Raiders are going to force DHB in the lineup. Give him time to develop and let Murphy keep making plays
September 16th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
Matt Cassel listed as questionable.
kb_kcstar: Chiefs QB Matt Cassel (sprained knee) missed parts of Wednesday’s practice. He’ll be listed as questionable on today’s injury report.
September 16th, 2009 @ 2:49 pm
September 16th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
snb you are an idiot like kell,…russell sucks but you and other losers cant admit it,..65 million dollar bust.
September 16th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
cassell will of course play, and play like he did against the raiders last year while a patriot,…but LJ will dominate this game.
September 16th, 2009 at 5:09 pm
i too ignore the russell haters but the 2 big returns giving the chargers a short field and the soft zone in the 4th cost us the game and the raiders r going to beat the chiefs this week
September 16th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
Baltimore QB Flacco threw the ball 43 times vs the Chiefs.
September 16th, 2009 at 5:18 pm
Im keepin it real, and you loyalists cant handle it.
September 16th, 2009 at 5:23 pm
Yawn
September 16th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
dave r Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 5:09 pm
i too ignore the russell haters but the 2 big returns giving the chargers a short field and the soft zone in the 4th cost us the game and the raiders r going to beat the chiefs this week”
People that understand the game of football know this.
The Russell haters are the products of the “Microwave Society” that we live in, don’t have any patience or understanding, nor the capability of understanding the nuances of the game of football.
September 16th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
Kell ol buddy, dont mention flacco and russell in the same thread,..those two are not playin in same league.
September 16th, 2009 at 5:34 pm
***Just re-watched the 1H of the game. Insofar as I can see right now – you guys are insane! JR was money all 1H! They should have scored 21pts 1H. He was only stopped ONCE with a 3 & out.
The INT was Murphy’s fault – a promising drive haulted. And the McFadden fumble cost them again when they were driving to score.
And all this sht I hear about DHB. Insofar as I can see right now – you guys are insane! DHB had 2 passes thrown his way: one pass JR fired at him high and hot only a few yards away to the sideline ..he barely had time to get his hands up – the second pass he clearly dropped letting it get into his chest. All this flack over 2 passes – only ONE of which is 100% his fault!?!
But the guy was opening up things for Murphy. It was clear on one of Murphy’s catches DHB ran a route that picked 2-3 defenders off freeing up Murphy for the completion and a 1st down Raiders. There were other places I saw he show up which freed up players.
Wow ..you talk about being way off base ..you guys are in outer space.
September 16th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
I’m sure everyone already discussed the Chargers game game but I have to say I’m pleased with most of what I saw.
Tough loss, no doubt, but I can live with it because we dominated a better team, a team that’s been a Super Bowl contender for 3 years now, they have a ton of experience, they’ve won hard fought playoff battles, they know how to play together and they know how to win….we’re not there yet but it sure seems like we’re building something here.
It’s evident the team does not lack talent but they still need to put it all together and that’s still gonna take a few more games, but most of the pieces are in place now for this team to start winning and ultimately, fight for a playoff spot as soon as this year.
Fact is, the last 3 times the Raiders have taken the field, going back to last year, they have dominated their opponents, that’s no fluke.
Now they need to learn how to win these kind of games, talent-wise we’re already there, but we need the confidence and maturity to take the next step and it doesn’t happen overnight, it’s a process that every good team has to go through.
September 16th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
The Jets didnt have to wait too long for their qb to play well,..1st game!…lol…sanchez is already better then russell.
September 16th, 2009 at 5:44 pm
bob i love this weeks prediction chiefs 37-17 wasnt your last one chargers 45 -13?
September 16th, 2009 at 5:47 pm
this still the best the raiders looked in a few years. time will tell we will know what we have in about three weeks
September 16th, 2009 at 5:50 pm
I still haven’t got my voice back from Monday.
It has been a while since they gave us something to cheer for.
Raiders 20
Chiefs 13
September 16th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
I haven’t seen a Raider Team drop as many of the opposition as they did Monday Nite in QUITE a while.
September 16th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
get you a sanchez jersey then !
September 16th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
I am ignoring the Russell haters. You guys have your agenda so have at it.
Richochet: Ok. Thanks.
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I watched the game and understand the history.
Richochet: the history? What history would that be? Russell’s history is that he’s lazy. that he’s overweight. That he shows up out of shape. That he was the worst starting qb in the NFL last year. That is horrible inconsistent play cost the Raiders a huge game on Monday?
Pick one.
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Russell is okay right now.
Richochet: all evidence leads to the contrary.
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He made the play to win the game with it all on the line.
Richochet: Throwing the ball to someone wide opening is something every qb, down to the lowest rookie or backup can do. When it came down to getting the balls in the hands of receivers to move the chains? Failed. to score? Also failed. Baseball breaks it down to ERA..that’s EARNED run average. If football did the same, Russell wouldn’t have that pass on his stats, because he didn’t do a damn thing to earn it.
12 of 30? MEANS YOU EARNED SQUAT.
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He had several drives down field
Richochet: Several drives? OUT OF HOW MANY ATTEMPTS? He failed, badly.
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…threw 2 TD passes and the 2 ints were not on him.
If you are not Super Bowl bound…you better be developing a young QB.
Richochet: Then I suggest the Raiders start, because this is Russell’s 3rd year in the NFL, and he looks like crappola.
September 16th, 2009 at 5:55 pm
Silver-N-Black666 Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 5:58 pm
Yeah Bob its pretty obvious that Ryan, Flaco and Sanchez are all ahead of Russell. Its going to take him a little longer than those guys to adjust.
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It may be obvious to Trolls like yourself and Boob. But you don’t speak for anybody else.
September 16th, 2009 at 5:58 pm
let’s not forget we were moving the ball at wil before mcfadden fumbled. we lost a tough game to a tough team.cable admitted the coaches were the blame. if we didn’t go vanilla we would have won the game. nobody’s mentioning how russell put the team ahead with lessthan 2 minutes left in he game . he didn’t crumble, he scored . what they call that… a comeback ?
September 16th, 2009 at 5:58 pm
Yeah Bob its pretty obvious that Ryan, Flaco and Sanchez are all ahead of Russell. Its going to take him a little longer than those guys to adjust.
If he is not there by the end of this year then yes you can start complaining about him being a bust. As long as there is improvement every week we will continue to see him.
September 16th, 2009 at 5:58 pm
Mario Henderson has locked down the Left Tackle spot for years to come, that’s huge because it’s one of the hardest positions to fill.
Chris Morris seems to be able to hold his own at Center, hopefully he secures the position because we need some stability there.
Cornell Green is the weakest starter…..but I keep going back to next year’s draft, we have 4 picks among the top 90 or so, it’s supposed to be a very deep draft and I hope Green’s replacement can be found there.
Richard Seymour and Greg Ellis, great moves….but it’s nice to see Scott and Shaughnessy getting snaps as well.
Once Schilens comes back and joins DHB and Murphy the Raiders will feature the fastest, biggest and youngest WR unit in the league….it’s a tough position to learn so they need to stay on the field at all times, we’re just gonna have to live with any mistakes they might make.
September 16th, 2009 at 6:00 pm
these raiders are different they have heart they have fight…. just win baby !
September 16th, 2009 at 6:03 pm
Outside of the late 4th quarter break downs they came away from that game in my eye respectable. Turnovers and mental break downs happen. Good teams can overcome them and they almost did. They seem to be headed in the right direction…finally. This is a far cry from where they’ve been. Let’s give em a chance. As for Russell, I think he did well personally….he’s so young too I think he’s going to be great.
It’s been a long time since I enjoyed a Raiders game, in spite of the loss.
September 16th, 2009 at 6:07 pm
Man, I can’t wait for sunday….I feel like a little kid again…..go Raiders!.
Good night people.
September 16th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
we all need to get behind our raiders too early for all the negative talk. Third year for Russell he doesn,t show it this year well then we move on. But for this year hes our QB he needs our support. Were not Philly fans
September 16th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
Silver-n-Black666 Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 5:58 pm
Yeah Bob its pretty obvious that Ryan, Flaco and Sanchez are all ahead of Russell. Its going to take him a little longer than those guys to adjust.
If he is not there by the end of this year then yes you can start complaining about him being a bust. As long as there is improvement every week we will continue to see him.
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Little longer? lol..describe “little”..don’t you mean it’s already taken him a LOT longer, and there is no visible light at the end of the tunnel?
This is Russell’s 3rd year..THIRD. Whole year to “ride the pine and learn”.which many say is ideal (except, for some odd reason, he can’t learn the playbook)A full year to start…, AND NOW, IN YEAR THREE..everyone should just “back off”?
the funniest part of your post??
“If he is not there by the end of this year then yes you can start complaining about him being a bust.”
Oh..may me? wow. thanks..as long as it’s ok with you..
Clown.
September 16th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
Wonder if Routt could return punts. He’s possibly the fastest dude on the team. It requires catching the ball, but it wouldn’t shock me if he could rock that position.
September 16th, 2009 at 6:21 pm
Silver-N-Black666 Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
KK quit trying to act like you know anything about football
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More than you, Looney Tune.
September 16th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
J-Russ will be alright everyone.
People are trying to say he sucks. He doesn’t suck. Andrew Walter, Tui, McCown, Culpepper and Aaron Brooks sucked. JaMarcus is inconsistent.
Did that 57-yard TD pass suck? Did that 3rd and 15 bullett on the play before to JLH for what should have been a first down suck? Did the 3rd down TD pass to Murphy (that we got hosed on) suck? Did one of several other nice passes, including a few to Zach Miller for big gains and third-down conversions suck?
Nope.
He also only took one sack and of the two INTs, one was on a hail mary so you have to discount that. The other was actually a GREAT pass but Murphy ran a sloppy route and didn’t go after the ball aggressively enough and the DB outhustled the rookie to the spot.
Sucking is what Delhomme, Cutler and several other QBs did in Week 1. J-Russ was inconsistent. He was playing with a pair of rookie WRs. And he left the game with a little over 2 minutes left and a 3-point lead against a team that was favored by about 11.
He did throw 5 or 6 extremely inaccurate passes, one of which should have been picked but wasn’t. So he was definitely inconsistent. He’ll have to become a CONSISTENTLY good/great QB if he’s ever going to lead this team to the playoffs and beyond. But don’t tell me he sucks. Don’t go overboard blaming that loss all on J-Russ either. That’s not what happened.
September 16th, 2009 at 6:24 pm
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September 16th, 2009 at 6:29 pm
kell, you liked that the raiders dropped a few chargers?…ok I guess,…I guess you dont care about wins and losses anymore,..but the chargers sure do,…12 in a row.
September 16th, 2009 at 6:29 pm
I’m not sold on DHB at all yet. I’m not writing him off, but I honestly don’t know if he’ll ever be a premier WR.
However, I see a bigtime J-Russ to DHB TD hookup vs. the Chiefs. Mark it down: 60 yards+.
September 16th, 2009 at 6:34 pm
bring on the chefs!!! DHB need’s to check his attitude sayin he don’t care what the fans think is not a good thing IMO….
4eva where U @!!!!!
September 16th, 2009 at 6:34 pm
I don’t understand why Al Davis wants to handicap his top investment, JaMarcus
Russell with a WR who’s clearly not ready. Now with JLH out, Russell has only ONE reliable wideout. Rookie 4th rounder Louis Murphy.
September 16th, 2009 at 6:36 pm
A holding out crabtree is better then dhb.
September 16th, 2009 at 6:37 pm
Same amount of catches…lmao….but dhb leads in dropped balls. lol
September 16th, 2009 at 6:41 pm
i thought personal attacks were no longer tolerated on this site i love a good debate and every1 is entitled to thier opinion but calling out people what good dpes that do anyway back to raiders football in my opinion the raiders played hard the dfnse is much improved seymour great pick up he makes every1 better on the other side we r a running team and we should play smashmouth football as far as russell goes hes our qb u got to give him time before u can place judgement 1 season and 1 game isnt enough
September 16th, 2009 at 6:41 pm
where the F is dirty???
sup bob??? JR did OK IMO… I dont like how we stopped running in favor of the pass but….
September 16th, 2009 at 6:43 pm
408
Still recovering from Monday
September 16th, 2009 at 6:46 pm
want to see what richard is saying.
September 16th, 2009 at 6:46 pm
my posts aren’t getting up so I type why not. And then they say I’m posting too fast? I don’t even have a post up yet! WTF!
September 16th, 2009 at 6:46 pm
Oh boy, kell already has russells excuses ready for sunday!!! lol
September 16th, 2009 at 6:53 pm
yo Dirty… Im bout to make a trade what ya got 4 me???
September 16th, 2009 at 6:54 pm
What is going on with this site? Things are posting out of order or not at all.
September 16th, 2009 at 6:55 pm
Dirty
also I hit you up on the twitter thing and still have no response… WTF Im posting to fast again….
September 16th, 2009 at 6:56 pm
Silver-N-Black666 Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 6:39 pm
Go back to qualifying for the special Olympics little guy and leave the Qb talk to us Big Boys
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666,
You hardly qualify as a “Big Boy” lol. You’re not even a fan of football. You’re a name-stealing,
name-calling troll.
I don’t ever recall an opinion of yours regarding football.
My bowel movements though, you take a keen interest in. Go figure.
September 16th, 2009 at 6:59 pm
One more time.
The murphy supposed none TD on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnBS8tTsnWE
September 16th, 2009 at 7:01 pm
I read the blogheadline and the first thing that came to mind was
I hope Garcia didnt say that.
September 16th, 2009 at 7:05 pm
KK
I have schooled you a many times in here and remember the last time I had to explain to you who Bob McKittrick was because you didn’t know that Shanahan worked for him you slow old man.
Anyone who has been in the Bay Area for any amount of time knows this except for YOU KK.
September 16th, 2009 at 7:05 pm
pffffft!!!
good luck with that!!!
http://oak.scout.com/2/899821.html
September 16th, 2009 at 7:06 pm
So let’s sum this up…
-Our 1st pick in the draft thinks he played “solid” even though he dropped the only two passes he had a chance to catch, and doesn’t care what the fan’s think, only what the team “paying him” does. Apparently he doesn’t understand the correlation between fan’s spending money on the team, and the team paying his salary.
-Our prized undrafted play-making rookie WR/KR broke his ankle in a non-contact practice. Imagine what will happen when teams are trying to take his head off. Not good.
-And our Punt Returner is either going to be a washed up WR (Javon) who hasn’t returned a punt in ten years, or our starting FS because he is a “good-catcher” even though eagle-eye Jerry saw him drop punts in practice. Why can’t Watkins do this?
September 16th, 2009 at 7:06 pm
KK your Wonderlic score would be exactly like Vince Young’s and mine would be comparable to Steve Young’s.
So get off the orderly’s laptop before they have to forcefully medicate you again. The last time they had to medicate you poor KK had a reaction to the medicine, and his prostate swelled up the size of a cantaloupe so you might want to think twice before you stay up too late in the nurses lounge tonight.
September 16th, 2009 at 7:12 pm
#46 snb
Thats Perfect and says it all.
September 16th, 2009 at 7:13 pm
Hey Bob If I get a Russell jersey instead of a Cable jersey, will you still let me tailgate?
Our D will shut down Larry. KC will get their skulls rocked and squaws will go to the hospital and after that injured reserve.
JR throws 2 TD’s and we run all over them all day.
The disharge was a good enough team to recover from our O punching them in the face and ripping off big yards.
Heres my biggest prediction. If Fargas plays he will slash the Queefs for 100 yards behind that powerful line.
September 16th, 2009 at 7:20 pm
I see that no one here likes disputing the FACTS! Check my post #58.
You bums saying JR sucks and DHB sucks need to get a clue and wane yourself off the media gravy.
September 16th, 2009 at 7:20 pm
Yep DHB was terrific! No catches, no yards no TDs. More drops than catches.Nice work for #7 overall pick.
If you think Russell played well then you should be banned from this board because you are a retard. Period end.
September 16th, 2009 at 7:23 pm
Pretty disappointing start of the year for JLH. He dropped passes in the preseason, somehow ended up behind the depth chart to 2 rookies, dropped another pass in a critical time on Monday, and now is hurt. On top of that, he is rocking an awful Big Daddy Kane hair-do.
September 16th, 2009 at 7:23 pm
408
what u looking for my team is solid just got outscored. I tried to do the twitter thing on my phone it won’t let me lol
September 16th, 2009 at 7:24 pm
#58 #59
More great post.
Read slower if yall dont understand at first
September 16th, 2009 at 7:28 pm
Terrapin,
I agree 100% on Jamarcus, and disagree 100% about DHB. The first pass was a tough catch, but it hit all ten of his fingers, it should be a catch. He was the first WR taken in the draft, he needs to make plays!!
September 16th, 2009 at 7:29 pm
Wow. In all the years I have been reading this blog, I have never seen a bigger hater than n.b.. He is even a bigger hater that that discharge dude that used to hang around here. While there is no such thing as a moral victory in football, us true Raiders fans see the positive signs that have shown up in the last three games. I forsee the Raiders continuing to climb the mountain until WE are back where WE belong. Rome wasn’t built in a day or 6 years. Find another blog n.b., you are NOT a Raiders fan. Silver and Black for Life!!!!
September 16th, 2009 at 7:29 pm
“As long as the coaches notice that’s all that matters,” Heyward-Bey said. “I don’t really care what the fans think or what anyobody else thinks. As long as they see I’m doing the job they want me to do, they’re the ones paying me.”
…….I hope the Raiders set this kid straight. He startin to really come off as an A–Hole.
September 16th, 2009 at 7:32 pm
#64 KK
I give credit to Cable for that. You?
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For every Sanchez or Flacco or Matt Smith you have a Lienert or a Vince Young or a Alex Smith. We didnt get any of those. We have a huge QB with a BIG arm.
Dont forget how long it took my namesake before he became one of the all time great Raiders.
JR is here to stay. You know Al will give him ten years no matter what, right?
September 16th, 2009 at 7:32 pm
Russell was THE reason the Raiders lost. ANY and I mean ANY other starting QB in the league wins that game.
September 16th, 2009 at 7:33 pm
They asked DHB during an interview a few weeks ago if he ever thought about Twitter. He said he only would if someone paid him. Dude just signed a $28 mill contract and he wants people to give him more money.
Know one cares what you got to say jerkoff! Unless you are going to tell us how you are gonna catch the ball!!
September 16th, 2009 at 7:35 pm
Dude Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 7:32 pm
Russell was THE reason the Raiders lost. ANY and I mean ANY other starting QB in the league wins that game.
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Straight BS. Orton, Delhomme, Stafford, Quinn, the KC QB all would have stunk it up way worse.
September 16th, 2009 at 7:36 pm
Of course the raiders were seymours fave team as a kid,..Al Davis reminded him of that for the press conference.
September 16th, 2009 at 7:38 pm
“Silver and black for life” LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh man……LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 16th, 2009 at 7:38 pm
OK here’s the problem with JR. He was a #1 pick paid the big $$$$ … if it takes you 3-5 years to develope then YOU ARE NOT a #1 pick … that’s the problem I have. The Raiders could have used that cash flow on the defense.
Anyways after that MNF … the Raiders are back … we won the battle in the trenches and played some great smash mouth football and all of the NFL took noticed and knows that now. When you play the Raiders be prepared … there is NO WAY the Raiders should lose against the Chiefs … even if JR overthrows his receivers 10 times.
On a side note … Flacco had a record day passing against the Chiefs 43 passes and over 300 yds and the Chiefs only had the ball for 20 minutes.
September 16th, 2009 at 7:39 pm
I must be the only one who saw Seymour give Rivers a shove to the chest and a karate chop to the neck on the play before Rivers got his 15 yarder for Taunting Seymour. Its when they sack Phillip and he is on the ground.
Its clear as daylight if anyone can put it on you tube.
Seymour has always been a “dirty” player. He reminds me of old Raiders like Lyle. I bet money the Raiders were always his fav team.
September 16th, 2009 at 7:42 pm
I dont think JR is the problem. Its his sorry as WRs. YOu saw what he does with ZM. He lit it up @ LSU when he had good WRs.
September 16th, 2009 at 7:45 pm
His passes to Miller are off the mark as well. He dznt allow for extra yards after the catch.
He is the worst starting qb in the NFL. All those QBs given the protection and run game win that game. Period end.
September 16th, 2009 at 7:45 pm
I liked JRs block
I liked JR coming back from injury
I liked JR zipped passes to ZM
I liked JR throwin TD passes when he needed to
I liked JR lookin distraught after the loss
He didnt put up monster numbers, but there was a lot to build on. JR will not be our major problem this year.
September 16th, 2009 at 7:45 pm
It is common knowledge that home-field advantage is worth 3 points in the NFL.
What is the spread, 3 points? Means both teams are equal, which is about right.
And what do you want him do with his passes to Miller, throw an absolutely perfect pass? He throws it, the guy catches it and it moves the chain, mission accomplished.
September 16th, 2009 at 7:47 pm
I don’t disagree with your assessment Plunketthead I was just pointing out the obvious. I did say that’s it going to take him a little longer to develop. that’s all. I myself can live with it.
September 16th, 2009 at 7:47 pm
Higgins has to make that catch!!!! It was 3rd and 15 with 3 minutes to go on Monday Night Football. If he isn’t man enough to hold onto the ball when taking a hit, he can go play in the arena league. That was an NFL throw, and a NFL hit, and a junior-college catch.
September 16th, 2009 at 7:49 pm
Inly reason the Chiefs are favored is because of Russell.
September 16th, 2009 at 7:49 pm
Plunkethead
“Seymour has always been a “dirty” player. He reminds me of old Raiders like Lyle. I bet money the Raiders were always his fav team.”
I can only hope we find more like him or at a minimum get our existing group up to his standards. You are right Plunkethead, the old Raiders didn’t take crap from anybody. They were the ones issuing the crap from here on out.
BRAVO RICHARD SEYMOUR! You do our history honor.
September 16th, 2009 at 7:50 pm
Dude Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 7:32 pm
Russell was THE reason the Raiders lost. ANY and I mean ANY other starting QB in the league wins that game.
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Wrong. The reason why the Raiders lost is because Marshall and Davis elected to play a very soft prevent defense on the last two S.D drives resulting in easy points.
What kind of defense gives up an 87yd drive in under 2 minutes….without any deep plays???????
September 16th, 2009 at 7:51 pm
raidertay Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 7:42 pm
I dont think JR is the problem. Its his sorry as WRs. YOu saw what he does with ZM. He lit it up @ LSU when he had good WRs.
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How can a receiver catch a ball when it is overthrown by 5 yards. JR has no problem throwing down the middle except he is going to get ZM or his WRs killed by staring them down for so long. Remember last years Chiefs game … Gonzales told ZM he felt sorry for him because his QB was hanging him out to dry. You know something like what happened to Higgins on Monday.
Yes … JR lit it up @ LSU against the crappy teams … what did he do against the good teams.
September 16th, 2009 at 7:53 pm
I just hope his butt doesnt keep growing.
Some big guys like that have a real hard time as they age.
He needs to work out and work out hard all year long every year if he wants to be great.
Someone needs to light a fire under his caboose
September 16th, 2009 at 7:59 pm
The coaches blew this game period.
The 4th QTR was just like the Buffalo and Miami games last year.
Play hard all game and then pull back and become a spectator. Its crazy
September 16th, 2009 at 8:00 pm
Thank God JR has ZM. Can you imagine if we didnt. Lets take our time with Chaz bro. We desperately need him to come back full stregnth.
Hopefully Cable saw somethin in JWalker this week and thats why he is activating him. Hopefully its not just because of Punt Return. He didnt sound too confident in him a few days ago.
September 16th, 2009 at 8:02 pm
Norco Bob Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 7:36 pm
Of course the raiders were seymours fave team as a kid,..Al Davis reminded him of that for the press conference.
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Still laugh my ass off thinking of Seymour, trying to echo Al’s comments, saying “Oh..uh..yeah..Raiders were always my team. I had their shirts and stuff. YOU CAN ASK MY MOM”
Sure Richard..we’ll do that.
September 16th, 2009 at 8:04 pm
Showtime is showing a history piece on the AFL right now, should be interesting
September 16th, 2009 at 8:07 pm
120. 2nd yr DB Brandon Flowers is dinged. He’s been very good so I hope he stays out against us.
September 16th, 2009 at 8:08 pm
#135
Al Davis home movies? LOL
September 16th, 2009 at 8:09 pm
Dude Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 7:32 pm
Russell was THE reason the Raiders lost. ANY and I mean ANY other starting QB in the league wins that game.
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Dude,
Q: How many other QBs are being asked to play with a pair or rookie WRs?
A: Zero
Q: How well do rookie WRs generally perform in the NFL?
A: You generally have about 1 per the entire NFL draft class who does anything of note his rookie season.
Q: How many passes were dropped on JaMarcus?
A: About 5 or 6
Q: Did you see Jake Delhomme play on Sunday?
A: He turned it over like 6 times.
Q: Did you see Jay Cutler play on Sunday?
A: The Great One threw 4 picks.
Q: How many points did Carson Palmer’s Bengals put up before the last minute of their game vs. the mighty Denver D?
A: Zero
Q: How many of these QBs threw for more yards than JaMarcus in Week 1: Favre, McNabb, Schaub, Rodgers, Pennington, Stafford?
A: Zero
Q: How many starting QBs took fewer sacks than JaMarcus (1 sack)?
A: Zero (this is obviously a credit to the o-line playing very well but also to JaMarcus for getting the ball out quickly).
Q: How many INTs can you blame JaMarcus for?
A: Zero. One was on a game-ending hail mary. The other was clearly Murphy’s fault for running a sloppy, rookie-esque route and not going after the ball aggressively.
I’m not trying to say he played great or anything. He was EXTREMELY inconsistent. He’d make a great throw that few NFL QBs can make one play and then a horrendously inaccurate throw the next. But I’m not buying that this loss was on him.
Yes, if he played better the Raiders probably could have established a bigger lead and won
September 16th, 2009 at 8:10 pm
Watching 2H now ….1st drive dead drive. 2nd drive by JR, 2 runs, on 3rd down when he missed DHB badly …not so sure that was JRs fault or DHB cutting his route short. JR actually threw to an open area about 5yds from DHB who was wide open. It was a timing route.
3rd JR drive …1st down he just misses DHB who had a seam…ball came out wobbly. 2nd down rund, 3rd & 6 no body is open ..tries to dump off to JLH who’s completely covered ..incomplete.
4th JR dive …1st down run, 2&7 deep middle to ZM, 1st down JLH end around with JR blocking. FG drive +3
Chargers tightened up on run defense.
THE RAIDER DEFENSE WAS JUST STOUT!
September 16th, 2009 at 8:13 pm
Terrapin,
Hot and high it was, but it was catchable. I am just sick of making excuses for him. Nobody is pulling harder for him than me, but it is always….”he is drawing the double-team”, “it was a tough catch”, “he is a rookie”…..blah blah blah, just make a play, give us something to latch on.
And than his comments today. BARF!!!!
September 16th, 2009 at 8:14 pm
Plunket,
You mean JLH right? He got creamed no doubt, but it wasn’t a 1st quarter play, the game was on the line. He’s got to man up.
September 16th, 2009 at 8:15 pm
“Stats are for Loosers” – Warren Sapp
There is more to football then Stats. Any real football fan knows that. Honestly. are we tryin to win games or FFL competitions.
September 16th, 2009 at 8:16 pm
Still no body wants to dispute the FACTS!
Vegas – I hear you on the DHB first pass …as a rule of thumb for a WR, if it hits your hand you should catch it …but in all honesty that ball came hot and high …he was barely able to get his fingers on it.
September 16th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
Vegas
You are rough on DHB
That was one hell of a hit.
It almost took his head clean off. Lots of tough proven vets cough up the ball when jacked up like that.
We had plenty of jacked up hits in that game though didnt we?
September 16th, 2009 at 8:21 pm
and that’s what our quarterback needs to do is to put touch on the short passes ,he don’t always have to throw lasers. i remember when elway came in his receivers couldn’t catch his passes .jamarcus looks like he’s too excited. he needs to relax . he’s improving i think the game is still a little fast for him. but when it totally slows down . he’s gonna be just fine.
September 16th, 2009 at 8:21 pm
Terp
Look for the play before Rivers gets his 15 yarder.
Rivers is on the ground and Seymour gives him a karate chop to the neck.
I want to make sure I am not going crazy again.
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Vegas
you are correct. I am high again.
September 16th, 2009 at 8:22 pm
Chris
Nice work
September 16th, 2009 at 8:23 pm
I don’t necessarily blame JR for putting some steam on that ball either. He had to get rid of it quickly for DHB to have a chance as defenders were barreling down on both of them.
1H JR was awesome.
3Q was rough. The run game stalled which caused problems. And he misses a few …on may have been DHB cutting his route short, the other to DHB the ball got away from him …came out wobbly, and the other no one was open and he had to get rid of it.
DHB was looking a lil frustrated as he was wide open or open a few times but they couldn’t connect.
September 16th, 2009 at 8:25 pm
Plunketthead Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 8:21 pm
Vegas
you are correct. I am high again.
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I’m jealous, I am in LA on business and haven’t smoked in 4 days. I can’t even remember the last time that happened.
September 16th, 2009 at 8:27 pm
how many chargers did we take out of the game ?
September 16th, 2009 at 8:27 pm
Our LB’s lack instincts at times, especially end of games. The play-calling on D was awful, but they can ad-lib a little to make a play. They just went with the flow.
September 16th, 2009 at 8:29 pm
The coaches plain lost the game. If you have the lead with 2 minutes or less…and the opponent starts at their own 17 yard line? You should win the game!
But the coaches did not trust the players and played that soft ridiculous passive Raider prevent defense. It had the exact same look as defenses in the past.
Deep in my heart I kinda knew the D was going to blow it. Because of that Raider prevent defense.
September 16th, 2009 at 8:29 pm
McCallister signed? wtf?
September 16th, 2009 at 8:30 pm
DHB and Russell are sruggling to connect for sure. IMO Russell doesn’t trust him and just makes sur that the ball isn’t at risk by throwing it very hard to him forcing him to make a great catch. He only does that to players he doen’t trust. He did the same thing with JLH last year. when he doesn’t trust you he wont put the ball a risk for you but if you watch that TD t Murphy that got calld bac he threw to an open window and Murphy rewarded him by getting there and making that play. Thus when the game was on the line he took a chance on Murphy because Murphy earned it.
DHB has to do the same thing and win Russell over by making an incredible play. Then he’ll give him more and more opportunities. He definitely goes where he thinks he can get a completion. So would any other QB.
September 16th, 2009 at 8:33 pm
The problem is with coaching the soft zone defense. On the SD TD drive right after the Oakland FG ..Sproles ran for the 1st down on a dump off ..the LBs dropped back too far. That was the precursor of things to come.
This problem can be fixed.
September 16th, 2009 at 8:36 pm
?????????
September 16th, 2009 at 8:37 pm
This showtime piece is pretty cool. Lamar Hunt was the guy who wanted to start the league-wide TV revenue sharing, and they called him a socialist, LOL!!!
September 16th, 2009 at 8:40 pm
JR may be on the way to becoming a huge star in the NFL. Not just because of his skills but for his flashy style, easy demeanor and he has a “coolness” about him.
Like hitting the game winning TD from his own 40 on 4th down with two minutes left. He proved he can do it in a grand style.
I bet Al got all wee weed up over that
Time to work on some WR help.
September 16th, 2009 at 8:41 pm
Priesttj,
You are right about the trust issue. Tollner implemented a passing game based on timing routes and throwing to spots. Receivers have to be able to read the coverages and have options on their routes based on that coverage.
Schillens and Miller are going to combine for 10 to 15 catches a game. Why? They have their timing down with the quarterback. The QB knows how those guys play and make reads. That’s why Schilens was on his way in camp and why Miller is consided a top end talent.
These detractors LOVE Jeff Garcia and QBs like him. They love playing side-ways football…Bottom line is Russell can score at anytime with his arm and that speed. They effectively did that on Monday night.
It will only get better for the offense as this season unfolds
September 16th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
Thats funny you mention 4 days. I have been out for that long.
September 16th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
4 days?
Where are you Vegas?
I can drop you off a care pkg. I’ll be headed down the 405 about 9 am tmw.
September 16th, 2009 at 8:43 pm
Cable said in his PC that they would run that defense in that situation again. We’ll see Sunday because chances are we will be in that situation again.
September 16th, 2009 at 8:44 pm
I see you SnB …
I thought it was interesting to have Huff and Nnamdi at S on that last drive. McAllister at C instead of Routt, and that actually might work.
Props to CJ and Huff for their OUTSTANDING play last night. Especially 37. He was ALL over the place.
September 16th, 2009 at 8:45 pm
No we wont TJ,…KC wins a blowout sunday,..sorry, keepin it real.
September 16th, 2009 at 8:46 pm
And dont call Gary anymore TJ,..I got you banned again.
September 16th, 2009 at 8:48 pm
We’ll soon see wont we?…
September 16th, 2009 at 8:48 pm
Cable estimated free safety Michael Huff for 30 or more plays, mostly on passing downs. Huff intercepted a pass and recovered a fumble.
“He was absolutely tremendous,” Cable said. “Not one coverage bust, got everybody aligned, made some calls and, obviously, the two great plays.”
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Where are all those people screaming cut Mike Huff?
September 16th, 2009 at 8:48 pm
priesttj Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 8:43 pm
Cable said in his PC that they would run that defense in that situation again. We’ll see Sunday because chances are we will be in that situation again.
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Priesttj,
I have a problem with that philosophy. This team, as Nnamdi aptly points out, is built to stop the pass. So the system finally works where the opponent has to drive a long way and you pull back….not smart.
Let Nnamdi and C.J do their jobs on the outside and trust them..
Stop gettign killed underneath. That last drive was almost effortless on the Chargers part. Had they had to sweat it out they would have buckled.
September 16th, 2009 at 8:49 pm
What does biult to stop the pass mean? I’ve never heard of such a thing.
September 16th, 2009 at 8:50 pm
Next drive after Chargers score to take the lead JR leads a 70yd drive for a TD and takes the lead back with 2+ mins left. (showed grit coming off injury and overcoming Green’s stupid penalties)
Lets hear yall dispute the FACTS!
September 16th, 2009 at 8:52 pm
Whatever terp,..he sucks.
September 16th, 2009 at 8:55 pm
jhill Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
4 days?
Where are you Vegas?
I can drop you off a care pkg. I’ll be headed down the 405 about 9 am tmw.
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In some shythole called Cerritos. Apparently it is off the 91. Doing business/training from 9-5, but let me know if you can a brother out!!!
September 16th, 2009 at 8:56 pm
Thats the game …JR had a good game (excluding the dropped balls)….DHB wasn’t nearly as bad as all you say he was.
I think some of you just come in with biases and seek confirmation. So whatever you see is what you want to see.
September 16th, 2009 at 8:56 pm
Ok I think the LBs would have been able to stop the dump offs if we stayed in man and could someone tell me if Chambers even made a catch?
Routt’s half effort 2 inch jump made Nnamdi give up a TD and gave the chargers momentum and a chance to win the gamee. Russell and DHB need to get their timing down and improve their chemistry, i dont want people to label DHB a bust already for not having any catches.
Also, green had a lot of penalties but he made a good play, getting his helmet ripped off and saving our drive.
September 16th, 2009 at 8:57 pm
Priest I dont think we will be in that situation.
If we beat them up in the first half like we did Mon they wont recover and we will win easy.
September 16th, 2009 at 8:58 pm
Thanks but I moved out of there 5 years ago.
I am in the high desert pines in AZ.
I became a normal citizen when I quit drinking. Then I quit smoking, took it up again two years ago and I dont know someone who knows someone like I use to when I partied all the time.
September 16th, 2009 at 8:58 pm
Haven’t we won the last two seasons in KC? I expect more of the same, they have no QB, no D and no running game, and no Tony Gonzalez.
Raiders 21-3 in a snoozer.
September 16th, 2009 at 8:59 pm
Very familiar with Cerritos … Your hours are a conflict, but I’ll be coming back later that night. Will need to wait for traffic to die down, but I’ll check in aboout 8pm to see if your posting. I can probably meet you off the 91, What exit are you off of?
September 16th, 2009 at 9:00 pm
I’m at the Sheraton, off center court plaza or drive or something like that.
Since I don’t want to bring anything onto the plane on the way home, my purchasing options are limited. But if you bring a dub I’ll burn it with you. Deal??
September 16th, 2009 at 9:01 pm
I think some of you were misled by the announcers. They couldn’t get over calling JR inaccurate, the Raiders vanilla, and how great the Patriots and Chargers are ….all while being absolutely shocked at how the Raiders were handling them.
September 16th, 2009 at 9:01 pm
Watch about 40 seconds in and tell me what you see? http://www.nfl.com/videos/san-diego-chargers/09000d5d812a35f9/WK-1-Philip-Rivers-highlights
September 16th, 2009 at 9:02 pm
Matter of fact, I’m supposed to meet my boy an he lives in Cerritos … Maybe I can kill two birds with one stone? Non pun … lol!
September 16th, 2009 at 9:02 pm
Don’t worry about the chips …
I know how it is being outta town.
You might be able to help me out one day when I’m in your part of the world.
September 16th, 2009 at 9:02 pm
TJ you never know what the F you are talking about,..and you are banned from Gary again.
September 16th, 2009 at 9:03 pm
briens source tells him mcCallister signed with raiders.
September 16th, 2009 at 9:04 pm
What goes around comes around my friend. You, and everybody else, needs to come out to Vegas to the Hilton to watch football one weekend. Off the charts.
September 16th, 2009 at 9:04 pm
Ok. Forget the charger game all ready. It’s over. JRuss is still the qb and will be for the rest of the season. You history forgetting haters need to just chill. I’ve got two words… Troy Aikman. Here’s two more… Terry Bradshaw. Both sucked for three seasons and both are now in the hall. Patientce grasshoppers.
September 16th, 2009 at 9:05 pm
SnB, no teaam has ver been nor can I ever foresee a team being biult to stop the pass. That is suicidal for any organization to do something that silly. I’ve herd of coverages designed to stop the pass but to say we were biult to stop the pass is ludicrous.
September 16th, 2009 at 9:08 pm
Jerry, NBC doing adverts on this site…WTF……
September 16th, 2009 at 9:10 pm
I’m out. I see when you bring out the FACTS all the cock-a-roaches scramble…
September 16th, 2009 at 9:13 pm
Aight, so I’ll get at you tmw.
I’ll wear my black #2 and meet you at the hotel between 8-9.
September 16th, 2009 at 9:13 pm
What is with all of the posts being out of order? Also TJ do you think stats are for losers and would we have stopped the dump offs if we stayed in man rather than dropping back the LBs idk how far back
September 16th, 2009 at 9:14 pm
Sweet, I will be the only non-asian, lol.
I’ll just chill in the lobby, white dude with a goatee.
September 16th, 2009 at 9:16 pm
Have your clubs with you? Got time for 18 before you get back?
September 16th, 2009 at 9:16 pm
To all the haters….go find another team! All of your negativity is quite disturbing.
I think you need a hug, lol.
Raider Fan 4 Life!!!!!!!
September 16th, 2009 at 9:16 pm
T’pin, it’s a matter of wanting to complain about something and not having anything specific, but they are mad because we lost. Facts? who cares about facts, they just get in the way of a good ‘he sucks’ comment.
September 16th, 2009 at 9:16 pm
Ok vegas,..you go back to making your hotel date with that other dude. lol
September 16th, 2009 at 9:17 pm
Boo`d him all game. we all were.
September 16th, 2009 at 9:18 pm
Go call Gary Bob, inform us of the next guy who isn’t going to get drafted, and continue to spell words like a 12 year old.
September 16th, 2009 at 9:23 pm
I wonder if Bob was booing Jamarcus after the Murphy TD?
September 16th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
CJ did kick major ass on Monday. Played every bit as well as last year and then some.
Nnamdi is Nnamdi. He did get beat on that back shoulder pylon throw which is really almost impossible to defend if executed as perfectly as Rivers and Jackson did there, so I’ll give him a pass on that one. You could see Rivers and Jackson communicating on the way up to the line about something and I guarantee that was it – ‘hey, if they’re in so and so coverage I’m going to hit you back shoulder at the pylon.’ On that kind of play the WR doesn’t have to let on to the DB with his eyes that the ball is coming until it’s too late for the DB to do anything about it.
Branch is eventually going to be a real good player. He’ll need time to get there and he’ll get beat sometimes this year, but he’s worth the investment.
Eugene is a steady pro.
Welcome to the NFL, Senor Huff. Where has the guy who suited up on Monday been the last couple of years?
Mike Mitchell even got into the act on special teams with a perfect form tackle of Sproles deep in SD territory.
September 16th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
Gu, in that situation I prefer to mix it up. Kep the QB guessing what defense we will run. on’t do any one thing even bring a corner as we did in the ‘Tuck Rule” game and then lay off. Just make the QB play on edge. I would love to see Mike Mitchell on a safety blitz or even Tyvon.
September 16th, 2009 at 9:26 pm
priesttj Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 8:43 pm
Cable said in his PC that they would run that defense in that situation again. We’ll see Sunday because chances are we will be in that situation again.
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TJ, what up?
Unless cable is going to maybe add another rusher to the end of the game defensive package I would expect similiar results….
September 16th, 2009 at 9:27 pm
Bob, you are in here every week trying to arrange “dates” for your awesome tailgate. Grow up would you.
September 16th, 2009 at 9:28 pm
Until the Seymour acquisition, I would have to agree with SnB on the defensive scheme, Priest.
All the DBs we draft? All the speed instead of beef?
Call it what you want, but we certainly were building the team to stop the run.
Now I will say that Shaugnessy, Bryant, and Seymour seem to indicate a change in that philosophy.
September 16th, 2009 at 9:28 pm
Norco Bob Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 9:16 pm
Ok vegas,..you go back to making your hotel date with that other dude. lol
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LOL …
That was funny!
September 16th, 2009 at 9:29 pm
No sticks JHill, I wish though
September 16th, 2009 at 9:30 pm
My man Dude …
What’s good?
Looks like Barkley won’t be able to go against Sark this weekend. DAMN IT!
September 16th, 2009 at 9:31 pm
Facts- How about not even a 50% completion percentage?
Facts- How about never actually going through a progression and locking on to the WRs
Facts- Almost getting 3 guys killed with his inaaccuracy.
Theres some facts for you. Now shall I list all the rookie WRS picked after DHB that actually made a catch?
September 16th, 2009 at 9:32 pm
If you are buy any vegas sports books,..take KC minus the points,..they cover without a sweat. Goodnight.
September 16th, 2009 at 9:32 pm
But if gradkowski starts,..raiders win easily…just like they would have monday night.
September 16th, 2009 at 9:35 pm
Boob’s got one hand on the keyboard, the other in his pants, baiting.
Pathetic Boob, yuck!
September 16th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
Ya kell you said that yesterday,..wasnt funny then either,..try again bro.
September 16th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
If Cable said he’s going to use that defense again in similar situations, forget it. He needs to go, too. And, it’s too bad. I had high praise for him since game’s end. But for him to shill for a defense that cost us our first season opener victory in 7 years? Forget it. We need a head coach. Why can’t Al find us coaches who won’t use that ridiculous defense? Is he capable of doing it? Does he even know how to interview coaches anymore? How hard is it?
“Are you going to use a prevent defense when we’re only up by 3, with 2 minutes on the clock?”
If the answer is yes, it’s simple. You just thank them for their time and have Herrera throw them down the f’n stairs.
I see some of you are blaming the linebackers now, for not having the good instincts to stray away from the gameplan and play tighter. Yeh. So then they get beat over the top and blamed for not doing what they were supposed to do according to the scheme. Give me a break. But giving that far fetched scape the benefit of the doubt, it would still be on Al, who is our top personnel guy, to get us linebackers that know how to play pass coverage. Interesting, when we’re supposed to have some of the best pass coverage linebackers in the league…
Lots of blame to go around is one thing. But it looks like everyone’s being blamed except for Al DAvis.
September 16th, 2009 at 9:37 pm
If Gradowski starts, the line will go from KC -3.5, to KC -6. Are you saying you are smarter than the linemakers in vegas?
September 16th, 2009 at 9:38 pm
JHill, all this time these guys were talking about how great our linebackers were in pass coverage. Now, suddenly, our linebackers are morons, for not properly executing the worst possible defense that could have been used in the situation they were in. Some fans, huh? No wonder Seymour didn’t want to come here.
September 16th, 2009 at 9:38 pm
And, what’s with all the internet dating in here? Bunch of creeps?
September 16th, 2009 at 9:39 pm
Gradkowski is better is what Im saying.
September 16th, 2009 at 9:40 pm
Seriously Boob, you get off in here?
September 16th, 2009 at 9:40 pm
THE SECTION I WAS IN AT THE GAME ACTUALLY BOOED RUSSEL WHEN HE CAME BACK IN FROM BEING HURT.
September 16th, 2009 at 9:42 pm
Dude,
1. You’ve got to take into account the drops on completion percentage. There were at least 5 passes that absolutely should have been caught but weren’t. That would’ve put him right at about 60%.
2. You’re totally right about locking in on WRs. He has to break out of that habit. Saw him go through progressions much better in preseason though.
3. I have no idea what plays you’re talking about on this one. I don’t remember any WRs taking real hard shots except for the one to JLH but that was a perfectly thrown ball. He wasn’t led into the defender. The defender made a nice play and broke on the ball from the deep secondary to force JLH to drop a pass that should’ve been caught. Understandable that he dropped it because he got rocked, but that’s a ball an NFL receiver needs to hold onto.
4. Not defending DHB’s night at all. He looked exactly like Cable said: scared and overwhelmed. Remember how he dropped everything thrown at him at his first practice? Nerves. Monday night? Nerves. I’ll stay patient and hope for the best, but I haven’t seen anything yet to sit there and say don’t freak out, DHB is going to be awesome. The best I can do is say don’t freak out, DHB has plenty of time to get it going.
September 16th, 2009 at 9:43 pm
I see some of you are blaming the linebackers now, for not having the good instincts to stray away from the gameplan and play tighter. Yeh. So then they get beat over the top and blamed for not doing what they were supposed to do according to the scheme. Give me a break.
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That is some funny shyt MR! LMFAO!
I have to admit that it is true.
September 16th, 2009 at 9:43 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 9:38 pm
And, what’s with all the internet dating in here? Bunch of creeps?
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Was that directed at me? If is someone is near-by I’d rather kick it and burn one than throw around comments on the internet all night.
September 16th, 2009 at 9:44 pm
MR,
I doubt Marshall drew up a defense that had Howard drop back 17 yards, pay no attention to the back in the middle of the field, and slip while he tries to re-direct himself. If you can prove otherwise than I’ll side with you.
September 16th, 2009 at 9:44 pm
KK,
What’s with the late night homo thoughts?
September 16th, 2009 at 9:46 pm
I am worried about this KR/PR situation. Especially the punt return job. Not only do we lose a dangerous weapon if JLH is out, but we seriously risk a potentially game-losing turnover on punt returns. Not good.
September 16th, 2009 at 9:47 pm
repost. They posted my comment all the way up at like 30th for some dumb f’n reason. are they doing this to you guys, too?….
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 9:38 pm
JHill, all this time these guys were talking about how great our linebackers were in pass coverage. Now, suddenly, our linebackers are morons, for not properly executing the worst possible defense that could have been used in the situation they were in. Some fans, huh? No wonder Seymour didn’t want to come here.
September 16th, 2009 at 9:50 pm
Vegas
thats pretty funny coming from KK who spends every evening trading insults with his internet buddies here at Jerrys blog
September 16th, 2009 at 9:50 pm
As I watch the top defensive teams one thing is clear they never let up. they keep attacking for 60 whole minutes….
How many diffrent looks did rivers see? Better yet did we ever rush more than 4 the whole game?
I know we were getting pressure with 4, but the last 2 possessions we wernt getting as much, and yet it did not occur to marshall or whoever that calls the D to maybe lets rush an additional person or two against these fresh 2nd stringers……
Cable, and marshall throw that lame prevent, soft drop LB’s, rush 4 gassed out dline men, never show a blitz scheme in the same situation we will lose again…..
We played not to lose defense lost this one, more to the point the DCO, and defensive scheming lost this one….
September 16th, 2009 at 9:50 pm
I WAS AT THE GAME AND I WILL TELL YOU LIVE IT IS EASY TO SEE HOW BAD RUSSEL IS. HIM AND BEY.
THE SECTION I WAS IN UNANIMOUSLY BOOED RUSSEL WHEN HE CAME BACK IN FROM BEING HURT
September 16th, 2009 at 9:50 pm
Kell is still mad his field trip to training camp was cancelled because none of us took him up on his offer to fill up his bus by buying the $75 tickets.
September 16th, 2009 at 9:51 pm
Thats what I call internet dating
September 16th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
MURPHY IS GOING TO BE AN AWESOME RECIEVER HE SHOWS IT
HEYWARD BEY IDUNNO
September 16th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
Only a moron would think he has a better view at a game, than a High Def TV with a dozen different camera angles and multiple replays, not to mention DVR and immediate rewind.
And I use to have season-tickets, so spare me the nonsense.
September 16th, 2009 at 9:54 pm
How many plays did DHB make in the pre-season? Anybody remember?
Whatever, it’s bad tactics to handicap Russell with only One credible WR.
Going into the next game 4th rd Rook Louis Murphy is the go-to WR, wtf.
DHB should earn his spot.
September 16th, 2009 at 9:54 pm
Nothing beats going to a game, I went to ever regular season and post-season game from 99-03. But you have no idea what is going on, unless you are one of those dweebs that wears headphones at the game. Your wasted, distracted, have no stats, and the raiders stadium reply was outdated around 1995.
At home is an easier watch, but not as much fun.
September 16th, 2009 at 9:56 pm
UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 9:50 pm
I WAS AT THE GAME AND I WILL TELL YOU LIVE IT IS EASY TO SEE HOW BAD RUSSEL IS. HIM AND BEY.
THE SECTION I WAS IN UNANIMOUSLY BOOED RUSSEL WHEN HE CAME BACK IN FROM BEING HURT
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Then he thew the TD on the 4th down, and you went bonkers……..
September 16th, 2009 at 9:59 pm
You know what would be interesting is if Schilens comes back in say Week 4 and Murphy has something like 15 catches, 225 yards and 2-3 TDs through 3 games and DHB has 5 catches for 60 yards and 0 TDs. I’m not so sure they don’t keep starting DHB opposite Schilens.
However, I’m calling a 60+ yard TD hookup from J-Russ to DHB this Sunday. Watch.
September 16th, 2009 at 10:01 pm
If you look at the score of the Chiefs-Ravens game, 38-24, and the fact it was tied 24-24 with 5 minutes to go it seems like the Chiefs may have something going. I watched it on and off and I thought the Chiefs looked pretty horrible for the most part. It was perplexing how they were staying so close when they just seemed to be getting throttled. One of KC’s TDs came on a blocked punt, which is kind of a flukey thing. LJ had nowhere to run (11 carries, 20 yards).
In fact, if you want to look at the true flavor of that game, look at the total yards from scrimmage:
Baltimore: 501 | KC: 188
This is a game where if our guys show the kind of effort, heart, toughness and focus they did for the better part of the SD game, we should win by 20+ points.
September 16th, 2009 at 10:02 pm
Chris in NY, I think Cable already said that would happen. That the snaps would come from Murphy’s count.
September 16th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
But you have no idea what is going on, unless you are one of those dweebs that wears headphones at the game.
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LOL!
September 16th, 2009 at 10:09 pm
I’m trying to remain positive after Monday’s loss. People can say the woulda shoulda coulda BS but I’m not buying it. The team loss and is 0-1 in the regular season, 0-1 in the AFC, 0-1 at home and 0-1 in the division. I’m done with the excuses and call things for what they are.
First and foremost the constant fellatio Russell receives in this blog is past disgraceful. Those of you who want to hype up an awful performance Monday have that right. Just dont expect a realist like myself to to be led a Jim Jones fest of the actual result of the game. He threw a crucial INT to end a perfectly called drive. Blame on rookie WRs all you want but he is the main guy of the franchise and has to overcome those things. I am not seeing it right now guys. You mean to tell me 12 for 30 is a gutsy showing? The touchdown pass had to be the easiest damn thing given to a QB ever. The passes are still inconsistent and its bad when analysts are showing how you cant read defenses. I’m going to remain positive that he turns it around because he is the best QB we have but I’m not going to lie and say Monday wasnt awful If you want to be in denial about that fine.
Sad to see Dmac fumble but its obvious that the combination with Bush can be truly special. It is too bad Cable is a dumb ass and have Farglass number 2 on the depth chart. Sad but I have to admit Dudette correct that Farglass will get snaps over Bush. Mind he was wrong about Farglass over DMAC. Nonetheless, we are about to see a scholarship program in ultimate effect in 2009. It saddens me to see this still happening in Oakland. I’m sick of it and quite fed with sports in general being that way. You just cheat your team. And the dissing of DMAC is quite crazy. He cant run in between the tackles? I sure saw it Monday. He goes down everytime he gets touched? I saw something totally different. It is crazy to know how only one time in this guy’s career he has gotten 20 or more carries in a game.
The oline did a pretty good job and as I told people Mario was going to handle Merriman. Was no doubt in my mind that was going to happen. Cornell Green is a piece of garbage. This guy plays decent against Shaun Phillips but has crucial penalties to further kill the team’s chances of winning. Big ups to Chris Morris! That is all I have to say. Jamal Williams is tough to deal with but he did better than any Raider center has vs that guy in years! Khalif Barnes needs to play RT by the 4th game. Green will just destroy this offense by himself.
Richard Seymour single handedly made the Raiders defense relevant on Monday. The guy is an absolute monster. He backed his words up. Greg Ellis did well causing an Tomlinson fumble. Those two pickups are a credit to Al Davis thus far. The D Tackles did better but dammit those guys have to be consistent!
The linebackers still make me sick. That is all I’m going to say. Just go make more excuses if you will.
The secondary looked good. Would like to see Rivers not get a TD pass with Nnamdi and Routt in the area. CJ is dope and Branch looked solid. Yeah yeah we had a few Mike Hiff sightings but I’m still skeptical.
The special teams hurt the Raiders. I was quite surprised to see that. After scoring a FG it is a damn shame to let Sproles little ass get loose for a big gain. That hurt momentum going into the half.
Louis Murphy should have caught that pass. Cry if you want to but the guy didnt catch the pass. Nonetheless he is better than DHB. The guy shouldnt be starting yet. He deserves to get snaps but he just inst polished enough yet. JLH got smacked and got overthrow earlier by Russell. Still think he is a big play machine.
Zack Miller is more than likely catching 70-80 passes this season. Russell seems to trust him the most and that isnt good.
Cable called a good game overall but messed up in the first half. The Chargers didnt make any adjustments for the run until the 3rd quarter and the playcalling let them off the hook. The Raiders had a good shot at being up two scores early on. DMAC and Bush were tearing the chargers run D alives. Why go away from that man?
John Marshall isn’t to blame for the defensive failures in the 4th quarter. The Al Davis defense was played in full the entire game. You think an experienced guy like Marshall would be apt to adjusting to the Charger offense but guess that wasn’t in the plans. No blitzing intermixed with that damned vanilla defense did us in. Norv Turner is a wimp but he knows offensive football. The one deep safety act is embarrassing.
All in all I was proud of my team eventhough they fell short. I finally saw a team that wasnt about to back down to a team considered a Super Bowl contender. Was it a function of the Raiders being that much improved or are Chargers not as good as many think? I stand in the middle. Oakland has improved but have alot of work to do since Russell isnt a pro bowl caliber QB yet. The fact that the team was physically dominant through the course of the game lets me know we are in for some highly competitive games this season. This isnt a 10 loss team and wont be near it. Mark my words!
September 16th, 2009 at 10:09 pm
I know Kell, but it’ll be much harder to justify that if the next two games go exactly like the first one for Murphy and DHB.
September 16th, 2009 at 10:11 pm
Damn Brien, you got a foreword for that novel
September 16th, 2009 at 10:11 pm
2. You’re totally right about locking in on WRs. He has to break out of that habit. Saw him go through progressions much better in preseason though.
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Any chance an upgrade at C, RG, and RT coincide with him no longer locking on to one reciever? I mean, how many guys can he look at with Cornbread out there?
September 16th, 2009 at 10:15 pm
Well there it is …
Can’t argue with any of that B.
September 16th, 2009 at 10:20 pm
Brien,
I read it, solid post. It is about 10 times longer than your normal post. Must feel good to get that off your chest.
Russell wasn’t “awful”, he had stretches that were pretty good. End of the game and end of the half were solid. I wouldn’t saw he was good, but not awful either. Lots of room for improvement.
Your boy JLH has to catch that ball, it’s a division game on Monday night football, you are going to get creamed. Man up or move on.
But your right, the LB’s stink, CJ is a stud and the special teams let us down.
September 16th, 2009 at 10:22 pm
Yeah well Vegas I was gone for quite a few days but I call things like I see them. Russell was awful man but overall the team is tougher and seem to want to win.
September 16th, 2009 at 10:24 pm
# jhill Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 10:11 pm
2. You’re totally right about locking in on WRs. He has to break out of that habit. Saw him go through progressions much better in preseason though.
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Any chance an upgrade at C, RG, and RT coincide with him no longer locking on to one reciever? I mean, how many guys can he look at with Cornbread out there?
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I can see the upgrade on the right side happening but to put center in there after playing an accomplished nose tackle like Jamal Williams on Monday. Chris Morris surprised me. He looked better than Grove ever has against Williams and the team was able to run the rock up the gut.
September 16th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
Been a lot of back and forth about Russell, B.
Absolutely needs to cut out the WTF throws. Can’t argue with that.
BUT ..
It is what it is and to sit here and whine about it is ridiculous. Especially when it’s no surprise. Just like you know DHB is going to drop the ball, you know JRuss’ “touch” throws are going to be an adventure.
But Bruce Gradkowski?
Jeff Garcia?
Gimme a F’n break!
September 16th, 2009 at 10:30 pm
Remember I told you about Morris …
Solid play, and I probably shouldn’t have had him on that list. Williams is a hog. But Morris got DMac blown up in the backfield on that first run in the 2nd half, and he gave up that sack on the last drive that made it 3rd and 15.
Your right though, overall, he was very solid.
September 16th, 2009 at 10:30 pm
Brien, the cover 1 we used most of the game is the same as the prevent we used at the end? I thought you knew something about football.
September 16th, 2009 at 10:30 pm
Yeah, like I said earlier, JLH is going to be the next disgruntled Raider to leave the team.
Schillens, Murphy, and DHB are clearly the top 3, and I think Miller is going to slide into that 4th spot.
September 16th, 2009 at 10:30 pm
Brien
That was worth the wait
September 16th, 2009 at 10:31 pm
McAlister to the Raiders?
Posted by Mike Florio on September 17, 2009 12:00 AM ET
Recently, free-agent defensive back Chris McAlister said that he’ll sign with a new team on September 15.
It’s now September 1817, and McAlister still hasn’t signed.
According to the Baltimore Sun, McAlister was in Baltimore recently, and he told friends he’ll eventually sign with the Oakland Raiders.
He possibly will move to safety, if/when he joins the Raiders.
The 1999 first-round pick has spent his entire career with the Ravens.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/09/17/mcalister-to-the-raiders/
September 16th, 2009 at 10:31 pm
The real deal that caused the outcome of the game was the fact Ron Rivera out coached Tom Cable in the 2nd half should be overlooked. The Chargers simply put an extra man in the box and dared Russell to beat them. Think I’m lying go watch that game again. Rivera knew that Russell and the rooks would make blunders and not make enough plays to win the game. Smart move by Rivera. Cable isnt there yet to find an adjustment on the fly for that.
September 16th, 2009 at 10:32 pm
all right folks, going to run.
Jhill I’ll catch you tomorrow.
September 16th, 2009 at 10:34 pm
# Raider-DEE Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 10:37 pm
Jhill,
As sad as it is to say…. If Garcia had played vs San Diego…I believe we would have won that game going away!!
Russell has no touch!!
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This has to be the worse post ever. Explain how he would have done any better than Russell. Garbage-cia is a dink and dunk QB. He isnt making vertical throws any better than Russell. He cant make those throws at all. The Charger defense would have had a field day. Play action means nada with Garbage-cia in the game.
September 16th, 2009 at 10:35 pm
I can’t wait to some more of #34. Jerry why don’t you ask if cable will be throwing a few plays at him. I like him over eugene
September 16th, 2009 at 10:36 pm
So first play dmac,bush together they spread out dmac and wham 17 yrds up the gut by bush but we don’t want that we want mr. 1 td . Can’t wait to watch fuggy bear jump into a pile for no gain or as I call it the fargas play.
September 16th, 2009 at 10:37 pm
jhill Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 10:30 pm
Remember I told you about Morris …
Solid play, and I probably shouldn’t have had him on that list. Williams is a hog. But Morris got DMac blown up in the backfield on that first run in the 2nd half, and he gave up that sack on the last drive that made it 3rd and 15.
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That sack … JaMarcus’s fault … he tried to change the play at the line but didn’t know the playbook.
September 16th, 2009 at 10:37 pm
Jhill,
As sad as it is to say…. If Garcia had played vs San Diego…I believe we would have won that game going away!!
Russell has no touch!!
September 16th, 2009 at 10:37 pm
Cassell is nothing and the Chiefs offense means nothing to me. The Raider offense has to produce touchdowns and not leave points on the field. The game can be very easy provided Russell is accurate. IMO he shouldonly pass 20-25 times a game max. He will be more effective.
September 16th, 2009 at 10:38 pm
The Chiefs may want to hold Cassell out another week, rather than throw him to Seymour & Co.
September 16th, 2009 at 10:39 pm
Raider Dee
Why is it that no GM in the league thinks that Jeff Garcia can help their team?
The guy is 4th string in Philly and would be 4th string here. Frye and Gradkowski are better than Jeff Garcia.
And YES, Gradkowski looked good in his short stint. I think he could run this team, and so can Frye. The minute the coaches decide to make that move, I’ll be right behind it.
But I am not going to overlook 2 4th qtr scoring drives?
TD drive to end the half?
TD drive in the 1st qtr?
September 16th, 2009 at 10:41 pm
what he said when he was released…
McAlister, who said he expects to be cleared for “100 percent football activity” by May or June, is hoping to sign on with another team for the upcoming campaign.
“I never thought it would happen, but I’ll bounce back,” he stated. “I still love football. I still want to play football.”
http://www.baltimoreravens.com/News/Articles/2009/02/McAlister_Released_by_Ravens.aspx
September 16th, 2009 at 10:45 pm
Hey Jerry get on that Mcalister story already.
September 16th, 2009 at 10:46 pm
Brien, you obviously don’t know anything about football. We ran a cover 1 the entire game, then went to a prevent on SD’s last drive, dropping everyone back in deep zone. And, that cover 1 was f’n brilliant. It confused Rivers all day. It was not a joke. and, we didn’t lose by it. Had we stuck with it, we’d be celebrating our first week one victory in 7 years right now instead of talking about this stupid shyt. Remember 7 years ago? You were in the 1st grade.
September 16th, 2009 at 10:48 pm
Jhill, You and SnB please explain to me what you mean by biulding a team to stop the pass. That is crazy talk no one does that in this league or college. You may be able to do that in the AFL (arena) football. But if anyone wee to even think in those terms it would be suicide.
WE will always and stiil have tremendous speed on defensein certain positions but if you think we didn’t have beef before getting Seymour, you’re crazy.
Hell we drafted Shaughnessey and T Scott was a guy that played his way onto this roster. Because we didn’t have bigger DE’s doesn’t mean we weren’t trying to get them. Hell drafted Tyler Brayton 6′6″ 280 to play DE as well as Jay Richardson 6′5″ 285. Yers ago we drafted Matt Millen to play MLB at 260 lbs.
You guy’s are confused you have to play your bet players and it just so happened that our two best DE’s were 250 and 260. Tht kid we drafted out of Georgia was 6′5″ 270 Moses he didn’t pan out. Small DE’s was not a plan it was a circumstance.
When Ray Lewis was drafted he weighed 225 lbs. The MLB we wanted this year was Rey Rey who checks in at 260. That was the plan.
Nobody in their right mind biulds a defense to stop the pass that is crazy…………..period That’s in your head no one else’s
You’ll get killed in this league doing something that freakin’ stupid. You guy’s gt a notion and then assume the team is doing just that. Why would we draft guy’s like McGlockton and Russell and Grady Jackson and bring in Ted Washington. Only an idiot would think you could get away with something that stupid.
September 16th, 2009 at 10:48 pm
raideralex99 Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 10:37 pm
jhill Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 10:30 pm
Remember I told you about Morris …
Solid play, and I probably shouldn’t have had him on that list. Williams is a hog. But Morris got DMac blown up in the backfield on that first run in the 2nd half, and he gave up that sack on the last drive that made it 3rd and 15.
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That sack … JaMarcus’s fault … he tried to change the play at the line but didn’t know the playbook.
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Ok, Steve ….
We heard you last night.
September 16th, 2009 at 10:49 pm
# NoMoreFargas Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 10:36 pm
So first play dmac,bush together they spread out dmac and wham 17 yrds up the gut by bush but we don’t want that we want mr. 1 td . Can’t wait to watch fuggy bear jump into a pile for no gain or as I call it the fargas play.
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It is just a sad joke being played on the real Raider people like you and me. Farglass isnt better than the guys we had on monday. Anyone who argues this doesnt want the Raiders to win. I am convinced you dont
September 16th, 2009 at 10:49 pm
Al Davis uses mostly Cover 0, 2 man under, and prevent. We’ve never used a cover 1 before, at least not how we did yesterday. I’ve always said we should use a cover 1 considering our speed at the corners. QBs are always tempted to go down the middle on us to avoid our corners, and with a safety just sitting there playing center field, it’s perfect. Frustrated the hell out of Rivers all day. But that prevent didn’t. He loved that.
September 16th, 2009 at 10:55 pm
I dont think I can stay up for this but I bet its gonna be good.
Have fun and never forget
BOMAYE!
September 16th, 2009 at 10:57 pm
Cmon Preist …
There hasn’t been a draft that focused on the run in years.
Al is about pass rush and corner backs first, stop the run second. His vertical offense is expected to score TDs. He expects to be up, forcing teams to pass to get back in the game.
Of course he doesn’t neglect the run. But it hasn’t been the primary focus of late.
September 16th, 2009 at 10:58 pm
Cable has to do what Gruden did. In late, close games, he has to use short passes and runs and make the drive last as long as possible to avoid putting the game into the hands of Al Davis’s prevent. If someone’s open deep? Tell Russell to dump it down, anyway. A quick score is moot. Our opponent will march right back downfield, and they’ll kill the clock against our prevent, and then put the nail in the coffin. Remember monday night at Denver in 2000? Remember that TD pass to brown to put us up? Remember how there was little celebrating, just an awkward look between Brown and Gannon as Brown tossed the ball to the ref? They knew they screwed up. Left too much time on the clock.
September 16th, 2009 at 10:58 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 10:46 pm
Brien, you obviously don’t know anything about football. We ran a cover 1 the entire game, then went to a prevent on SD’s last drive, dropping everyone back in deep zone. And, that cover 1 was f’n brilliant. It confused Rivers all day. It was not a joke. and, we didn’t lose by it. Had we stuck with it, we’d be celebrating our first week one victory in 7 years right now instead of talking about this stupid shyt. Remember 7 years ago? You were in the 1st grade.
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You idiot! The same vanilla D with barely any blitzing was mostly played all through the game man. Sure it worked for most of the game but as I said Norv Turner knows offensive football and has enough arensal to beat that crap. I knew when it was tied 10-10 at the end of the 3rd quarter that the team was about to have problems. SD has a good offensive squad and I never for a second believed in the 4th quarter we would still hold them. Wow here comes the prevent defense excuse late in the game shyt from you. That is a damn joke and you know it.
The last two drives for SD the o-line gave Rivers the time to throw and make some plays. It is only a matter of time. The D on the last drive was Vanilla because the team didnt take one chance and send someone to create some pressure on Rivers. LOL we running prevent like we are really scared of SD going deep on us. MR you get funny by the moment.
September 16th, 2009 at 10:59 pm
Brien….
Im tiresd of defending Russell…TIRED!!
He has a STRONG arm….and thats it!!
Nothing More…. Sure there were some dropped passess…..The game should have been won by the DEFENSE!!! But still….I would trade Russell for Flacco, Sanchez, or Ryan right about now!! They all came after we picked Russell!!
I hope he does better vs the chiefs but i doubt it. People in the NFL are just realizing that he is not an accurate passer.
September 16th, 2009 at 10:59 pm
Brien, It’s obvious now you know nothing about football. You don’t know the difference between a cover 1 and a prevent. When you do, let me know, then we’ll continue this discussion.
September 16th, 2009 at 11:00 pm
MR you really believe the Raiders were playing for overtime? Up by 3 points the staff said……….excuse me according to you Al Davis said “Hey guys let’s see if we can get them in OT, just dont give up a touchdown.”
September 16th, 2009 at 11:01 pm
Kell, he has no clue what he’s talking about. He doesn’t know anything about football. He just comes in here and mouths off. I’m not discussing anything with him until the moron figures out the difference between a cover 1 and a prevent.
September 16th, 2009 at 11:01 pm
I would trade Russell for Flacco, Sanchez, or Ryan right about now!! They all came after we picked Russell!!
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LOL!
Wouldn’t we all!
But not for Garcia, Delhomme, or Quinn!
September 16th, 2009 at 11:02 pm
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Kell, he has no clue what he’s talking about. He doesn’t know anything about football. He just comes in here and mouths off. I’m not discussing anything with him until the moron figures out the difference between a cover 1 and a prevent.
September 16th, 2009 at 11:02 pm
Brien
I thought you were more astute than that. If you taped the game go back and watch it again.
Rivers was still under a lot of pressure late. But the prevent allowed him to dump=off to Sproles uncontested.
September 16th, 2009 at 11:03 pm
Florida Pete Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 4:18 pm
i recreated a spreadsheet like the one i had in the early 90’s…
this is what it tells me will happen this weekend:
Oakland
1st Downs 22
Total Plays 70
Total Yards 400
Passing 180
Rushing 220
Yards per rush 4.7
Kansas City
1st Downs 16
Total Plays 54
Total Yards 220
Passing 160
Rushing 60
Final Score
Raiders 31
Kansas City 13
September 16th, 2009 at 11:03 pm
It was a soft zone, you can call it a prevent but it was a soft zone aimed at keeping everything in front. The bad part is there was just way tooo much time on the clock. All we really needed to do is keep a spy in the short zone maybe T Howard. And we would’ve had a much better chance to stop the drive. But we didn’t that’s why it loooked like prevent.
It was a mistake but all teams do it they just had too much time left. We needed to keep a a spy short and occasionally blitz him and drop him. It would’ve given Rivers a completely different look. Especially on that one play to Gates, that killed us.
September 16th, 2009 at 11:04 pm
Brien
Cable admitted they were in prevent mode. What are you talking about?
September 16th, 2009 at 11:04 pm
jhil,
So you admit those guys are better than Russell??
Dude, I’ll be the first to say that JaMarcus is a BUST!!
HE F’ing SUCKS and he will be holding a good team back!!
Rivers was the difference in that game!!
Thats why we lost on mon.
Thats my take….And we should have known this since he pulled the Crabtree on us!!
September 16th, 2009 at 11:05 pm
MR wrong! Rivers was frustrated because his o-line wasnt accustomed to playing Oakland and having all day to toss the ball. The one deep safety defense wasnt played MR during this awful stretch of defense we have seen? LOL. Have you not heard the player named Nnamdi asomugha say its still the same defense? LOL you are a funny guy. Di you not even hear the announcers talking about how the Raiders are basically the only team to constantly use that defense? Come on
September 16th, 2009 at 11:06 pm
Oh and now you always thought they should run a cover 1? Yeah please do me a favor and let me know when you said that. In my time on this blog show me when you did such a thing
September 16th, 2009 at 11:07 pm
Teams that don’t blitz, don’t win.
We used to blitz, and we were good then.
Now we play vanilla defense and lose in the fourth quarter. It no different now than it has been for years. It all comes from Davis.
September 16th, 2009 at 11:08 pm
The prevent defense only prevents victory.
September 16th, 2009 at 11:10 pm
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Kell, he has no clue what he’s talking about. He doesn’t know anything about football. He just comes in here and mouths off. I’m not discussing anything with him until the moron figures out the difference between a cover 1 and a prevent.
September 16th, 2009 at 11:13 pm
Even by your guy’s words the Raiders have always spun the truth so why not on this one. Cable was even BSing about Russell’s performance when he should have told the hardcore truth. Prevent my ass only up 3 points with all that time left.
Kell no one ever said the Raiders didnt put pressure because they did but in the 4th quarter the oline was able to give Rivers time. It isnt like defensive penalties aided those drives. That line gave him just enough time to make plays.
Please that same D you saw at the end of the game was the same BS I saw against Miami last year. I am not listening to that bullish. Yeah George Bush, everybody’s whipping boy, said things that werent true right? Cable said nothing happened with Hanson didnt he?
Keep on with the excuses
September 16th, 2009 at 11:13 pm
priest, “All teams” do not do it. “all teams” do not die by the prevent as much as we do. Stop lying!
September 16th, 2009 at 11:16 pm
MR you have been shown to be a true mentally insane troll and a liar thousands on times on this site. I have frequently made you look stupid on a football note and a personal note. When you are able to deal with me then you shall speak. But until then, child please.
September 16th, 2009 at 11:16 pm
Raider-DEE Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 11:04 pm
jhil,
So you admit those guys are better than Russell??
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Without question.
September 16th, 2009 at 11:17 pm
Cable has to do what Gruden did. He has to instruct his QB to avoid hitting guys downfield, even if they’re wide open, in close games toward the end to avoid putting the game into the hands of al’s prevent. A quick score is moot.
September 16th, 2009 at 11:18 pm
Brien, are you ready to tell me the difference between a Cover 1 and a prevent?
September 16th, 2009 at 11:19 pm
So did anyone hear Nnamdi after the game? He said he liked the D they played they just didnt execute it right! Come on if thats the case then how did they run the prevent defense wrong on that last SD drive? I’m quite confused people. Experts Kell and MR, hit me on and let me know oh great ones
September 16th, 2009 at 11:21 pm
jhil,
Believe me man…
All I did was defend Russell since he got here….
I told everyone…he has no recievers to throw to….And thats still true..
But with our running game we should be able to win some games. Teams will force russell to beat them and I have noconfidence in him!! Not anymore!!
I hope he proves me wrong but I would cut my lossess soon enough!!
If we had a decent QB we would kill K.C.. but now im just hoping for a 13-10 win!!
September 16th, 2009 at 11:21 pm
MR, I will do that as soon as you officially become a man and admit the forever trolling you have done to this day on the blog.
September 16th, 2009 at 11:21 pm
Jhil,
Thats true…
But we were at home…
Now we wil be away.. and K.C. might have won that game last sunday vs the Ravens if they were at home!!!
They will play a lot tougher against the Raiders…They always do!!
And Russell will have to MAN up if we want to win this game!!
September 16th, 2009 at 11:23 pm
MR you are really stretching tonight, even for you
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Cable has to do what Gruden did. He has to instruct his QB to avoid hitting guys downfield, even if they’re wide open, in close games toward the end to avoid putting the game into the hands of al’s prevent. A quick score is moot.
September 16th, 2009 at 11:23 pm
Brien many teams run that defense he was talking about the bump & run. AZ runs the same defense and so does Green Bay and several others.
What I think most people in here don’t understand is how the defense gives different looks compartmentally. The secondary can play a single safety deep with a 5-2 front or a 3/4 front or a 4/3 front. When you say defense you’re talking about the entir defense but a coverage is totally different or a front can be very different.
A lot of you say defense whe you actually man coverage or front. It carries a completely different meaning. Our problem was the coverage not the entire defense. You can utilize the LBrs to help the secondary or the front. In this case it was the secondary.
We should’ve played a 5 man front and mixed the seconsary with different looks. I think that is what Cable is saying we were to basic and he got comfortable in his reads. because he knew what defense we would be in.
September 16th, 2009 at 11:23 pm
# Brien the General 510 Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 11:13 pm
“Keep on with the excuses”
……
HA HA!!!! Tell us about it…
September 16th, 2009 at 11:24 pm
I’m out of here. I can’t take any more of priest’s lies. 0-1, again, priest. Spin away. Goodnight, all.
September 16th, 2009 at 11:25 pm
That’s a bit drastic Dee …
SD is a much better team than KC and we did enough to beat SD with Russell at QB.
If you feel that the Murphy play at the half was actually a TD, then the guy put up 24 pts. With the defense that we have, 24 pts should be more than enough.
September 16th, 2009 at 11:25 pm
I wasn’t thrilled at all w/ Russell’s play on monday but I saw that a bunch of little factors contributed in the loss. Bad kickoff coverage, referees, bad play calling in the final drive, and Russell. The fact that he missed open receivers by ten yards is just bad. A mediocre qb could’ve hit those receivers and score at least 14 more points in all those those 3-and-out opportunities.
September 16th, 2009 at 11:27 pm
Priest, I aint gonna deny how at times the D may did something a little different but overall its the same coverage we have seen from the Raiders. 4 man rush no blitz action. I said to someone when we were scored that we were in trouble because the Raiders will not bring extra pressure on Rivers. If I knew that then I’m sure Norv did.
September 16th, 2009 at 11:31 pm
There are very few games that I’ve seen where when a team is ahead they don’t play a soft zone of some sort. In most cases it works but when it fails fans go crazy. Buffalo ran a soft zone and opened up the middle to Brady and he killed them if you don’t believe me go to their site and see if the fans aren’t killing them for it. Whe Russell threw that TD to Murphy the Chargers were in a soft zone Murphy just busted it with speed. And Russell threw over the top of it. That’s why the corner and the safety were arguing about the coverage. They werein a two deep and we beat it with speed.
September 16th, 2009 at 11:36 pm
Say what you want but you know no matter what the Raiders will have difficulty stopping a team’s last chance to win the game with that garbage. I keep seeing it time and time again when we let teams go for the win. I was hoping SD made a big play and scored early because I knew it was happening
September 16th, 2009 at 11:38 pm
# priesttj Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 11:31 pm
There are very few games that I’ve seen where when a team is ahead they don’t play a soft zone of some sort. In most cases it works but when it fails fans go crazy. Buffalo ran a soft zone and opened up the middle to Brady and he killed them if you don’t believe me go to their site and see if the fans aren’t killing them for it. Whe Russell threw that TD to Murphy the Chargers were in a soft zone Murphy just busted it with speed. And Russell threw over the top of it. That’s why the corner and the safety were arguing about the coverage. They werein a two deep and we beat it with speed.
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LOL so the Chargers were in prevent defense lol
September 16th, 2009 at 11:38 pm
Culebra Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 11:25 pm
I wasn’t thrilled at all w/ Russell’s play on monday but I saw that a bunch of little factors contributed in the loss. Bad kickoff coverage, referees, bad play calling in the final drive, and Russell. The fact that he missed open receivers by ten yards is just bad. A mediocre qb could’ve hit those receivers and score at least 14 more points in all those those 3-and-out opportunities.
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Oh man..don’t you know talking logic skewers the thought process of the fleas of this board?
OF COURSE a mediocre qb could have pulled that game out, but when you post something that makes sense like you just did, you get posters like OakGlenn, Jhill, and a slew of others that hate dealing with the fact that Russell sucks.
Naw..they want to dwell on the fact he made a few routine passes and that those erase all those ones he missed.
now you’ve ruined their party.
September 16th, 2009 at 11:40 pm
Dee,
I hear you. Russell needs to play better. I just don’t expect to see it with the WRs until Chaz gets back. Murphy is the only WR Russell seems to be able to connect with.
On a side note, you do realize Rivers was 4-11 with a pick in that 3rd qtr, right? Both QBs won’t be writing home about that performance.
September 16th, 2009 at 11:40 pm
Kell more astute? Please you are the same guy who rolls his tongue over Russell’s nuts when it was obvious the guy’s horrible passes cost the team when they had SD scrambling. You love to ring up 27-75 stats on Al well 12 for 30 on opening night and 5-12 as a starter in the NFL. You have your nerve
September 16th, 2009 at 11:41 pm
So who was our 1st round pick again???
Was it DHB or Murphy??……..I thought DHB was suppose to be our best threat not Murphy!!
I guess I should just be glad that we did not take Craptree!!huh??
September 16th, 2009 at 11:42 pm
jhil,
I have no choice but to support Russell, but most Raider fans I know are getting tired of his inaccuracy…..
Chaz should help when he gets back, but the majority of Russells passess go to Miller who just happens to be wide open every time he hits him!!
Thank God for MILLER!!
September 16th, 2009 at 11:43 pm
jhill Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 11:40 pm
Dee,
I hear you. Russell needs to play better. I just don’t expect to see it with the WRs until Chaz gets back. Murphy is the only WR Russell seems to be able to connect with.
On a side note, you do realize Rivers was 4-11 with a pick in that 3rd qtr, right? Both QBs won’t be writing home about that performance.
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Oh stop with the idiot takes, lol…geez.
He can ONLY connect with Murphy? WTF??
Drew Brees had what? 6 td’s in the one game? AND 5 DIFFERENT RECEIVERS SCORED THE 6 TD’S??
Receiver RUNS A ROUTE..qb throws ball TO RECEIVER. Brees GOT THE BALL TO THE RECEIVERS..save that dumbass “had a connection” or “can only connect with” bull..
These passes weren’t close misses..they were ‘WHO THE HELL WAS HE THROWING TO” misses.
quit being a worm, if that’s possible.
You ever post without running excuses?
September 16th, 2009 at 11:44 pm
Rivers had a rough game due to the Raider dline hitting him so much. What is Russell’s excuse?
September 16th, 2009 at 11:45 pm
A mediocre qb could’ve hit those receivers and score at least 14 more points in all those those 3-and-out opportunities.
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There were three 3 and outs in the 3rd qtr. That’s it.
14 more points? 34 total pts?
Damn you guys are expecting a lot.
September 16th, 2009 at 11:46 pm
Man forget craptree. He doesnt fit what we wanna do. They believe in Chaz Schilens as the possession WR in this offense not a guy like Craptree
September 16th, 2009 at 11:47 pm
Well, im convinced we have pretty good team this yr!! With a little luck we can win 8-9 games…..
But Russell needs to bring it …no more excuses!!
Tired of saying “give him some time”…
It’s now or never and if he has a bad game against the Chiefs I will have no choice but to reiterate what I said here today!!
Prove me WRONG RUSSELL!! PLEEAASEE!! Prove me wrong!!
September 16th, 2009 at 11:48 pm
They were argueing at each other over who didnt stay with him. They each thought the other should have done it,
September 16th, 2009 at 11:49 pm
Why give Rivers an excuse? He didn’t get it done.
Russell didn’t get it done either. Dmac dropped passes, Russell overthrew guys, DHB and Murphy dropped a pass a piece, but it all adds up to it didn’t get done.
September 16th, 2009 at 11:49 pm
# jhill Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 11:45 pm
A mediocre qb could’ve hit those receivers and score at least 14 more points in all those those 3-and-out opportunities.
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There were three 3 and outs in the 3rd qtr. That’s it.
14 more points? 34 total pts?
Damn you guys are expecting a lot.
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Actually Jhill 28 points makes more sense. The first drive I was shocked didnt end in a TD. The Louis Murrphy drop equals 21 points in the first half.
September 16th, 2009 at 11:49 pm
Another fact that makes me happy…not that many penalties against OAK.
September 16th, 2009 at 11:49 pm
I have no choice but to support Russell, but most Raider fans I know are getting tired of his inaccuracy…..
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Been tired of it. But like you said, what choice to we have?
Like Thec said earlier, you may have been booing all game, but I bet you went bonkers when he hit Murphy for 6 to put us up with 2 minutes to go.
September 16th, 2009 at 11:50 pm
Rivers=1-0 and not missing wide open people
September 16th, 2009 at 11:51 pm
Brien the General 510 Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 11:51 pm
# Culebra Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 11:49 pm
Another fact that makes me happy…not that many penalties against OAK.
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That is encouraging
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And it will get even better once Cornbread is replaced!
September 16th, 2009 at 11:51 pm
# Culebra Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 11:49 pm
Another fact that makes me happy…not that many penalties against OAK.
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That is encouraging
September 16th, 2009 at 11:54 pm
But nevermind the Charger game now. It is over. We lost and we are 0-1. On to KC now and what needs to be done to win. I call for a immediate shutdown of all soul food restaurants in the east bay so Russell doesnt find them.
September 16th, 2009 at 11:56 pm
Raider-DEE Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 11:42 pm
jhil,
I have no choice but to support Russell, but most Raider fans I know are getting tired of his inaccuracy…..
Chaz should help when he gets back, but the majority of Russells passess go to Miller who just happens to be wide open every time he hits him!!
Thank God for MILLER!!
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Most tight ends are wide open once they release. Moves the chains, but when you rely on a TE, it means the qb isn’t getting it done.
Who was the leading receiver last year for the Raiders?
Miller, of course.
The leading WR? Higgins, with 22 completions.
22.
Less than 1 1/3 completions per game TO A WIDE RECEIVER.
Is that an NFL record for a year? I’ll bet it is.
Amazing..little more than one completion per game to a wide receiver…ALL YEAR LONG..and some still make excuses for Russell.
And when Russell finally gets benched? The worm’s will have excuses for that as well.
September 16th, 2009 at 11:57 pm
Does it not concern you guys that Russell still isnt an accurate qb? Since the Peyton Manning draft, highly touted franchise Qbs show their worth in their second year of starting. Both mannings did it. McNaab did it. I really dont like Carson Palmer but he did it in year 2 as a starter. Man I’m really getting tired of hearing excuses for the guy. His own ex-teammate Bowe told the truth
September 16th, 2009 at 11:58 pm
Brien do you see anywhere where I said SD was in a prevent I said they were in a 2 deep zone a cover2 to stop the deep ball. But it didn’t work, did it?
All you have to do is look at the film. They were in a soft zone to keep everything in front but speeed kills.
In the Green Bay vs Bears game they were playing a man over the top and Hester beat it with speed. If the ball is thrown on time as in the Murphy pass it is vey difficult to stop that kind of speed.
You guy’s call everything a prevent when it’s just zone defense. A prevent protects the boundaries as well as the deep ball an allows you to throw the ball in the middle of the field only. There are all kinds of zones that aren’t prevents.
Anyway Adios!
September 16th, 2009 at 11:58 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 11:17 pm
Cable has to do what Gruden did. He has to instruct his QB to avoid hitting guys downfield, even if they’re wide open, in close games toward the end to avoid putting the game into the hands of al’s prevent. A quick score is moot.
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Joke…
September 17th, 2009 at 12:00 am
Richochet,,,,
No more excuses bro,,,,,,
If Russell gewts benched, it will be because he brought it on himself,,,,,,
He’s been given a fair shot and if he cant get it done then step aside and make 10 million dollars a season holding a clip board!!
We will get some one who can take over and lead the team!!
September 17th, 2009 at 12:00 am
I’m telling you just by cutting stupid penalties we’re going to win a handful of games more…I can’t believe the raiders actually showed some discipline in that game.
September 17th, 2009 at 12:00 am
JR seems to be accurate when he hits Miller in the chest.
September 17th, 2009 at 12:01 am
Well see ya guys later. Remember move on to KC. It is getting close to the weekend and we still have a long season ahead. Goodnite
September 17th, 2009 at 12:01 am
# Plunketthead Says:
September 17th, 2009 at 12:00 am
JR seems to be accurate when he hits Miller in the chest.
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Yeah wide open in the middle of the field. Not really difficult. WE need him to be accurate all over. All I’m asking for is no less that 58 pct this season or we just wont put it together offensively. Put it this way if Russell was 18 for 30 on Monday night the Raiders in no way shape or form lose that game. This is fact. Bye now. Long day again
September 17th, 2009 at 12:02 am
Brien,,
What would you say for a straight swap…Palmer for Russell??
How old is Palmer antyway??
I would really consider it if I were Al!!
September 17th, 2009 at 12:04 am
Oh and if I’m not back before sunday 24-14 Raiders
September 17th, 2009 at 12:09 am
Raider-DEE Says:
September 17th, 2009 at 12:00 am
Richochet,,,,
No more excuses bro,,,,,,
If Russell gewts benched, it will be because he brought it on himself,,,,,,
He’s been given a fair shot and if he cant get it done then step aside and make 10 million dollars a season holding a clip board!!
We will get some one who can take over and lead the team
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Media outlets are praising Russell. At least on NFLN.
They have a very selective view of things.
Managed to make the critique of the Charger Raider game about how great Phillip Rivers is instead of how we kicked their heads in.
Mayock mentioned it in passing at the end of it, but certainly not the focus.
Went onto white wash the Murphy call back TD.
What a joke.
Just admit you f’ed up. Plain and simple. Media making me sick these days.
With Jerry the exception.
Trust on this, Jerry goes out of his way to be objective.
More than I can say for alot of his collegues.
September 17th, 2009 at 12:09 am
No one talks about how young this team is; two
rookie WR’s, two 2nd yr backs, a 2nd yr TE & 2nd yr QB. Plus, there’s a few 2nd & 3rd yr guys on D too.
We’ve got nowhere to go but up and if Javon can contribute by mid-season, that’s just icing on the cake!!
RNFL – Raider Nation For Life!!!
September 17th, 2009 at 12:13 am
Palmer didn’t play well until about his 25th start. Late in his second season starting. Which was in the same season Russell is in. Same with Manning well into his second season starting, Elway included.
Wether we’re making excuses or not Brien, Russell isn’t going anywhere so keep sweating. And he will be great in the near future as things start to settle around him just like every other great QB. It takes about 30 starts before they start to become consistent.
You screaming and yelling about it aint going to change it. It is what it is………..period
September 17th, 2009 at 12:14 am
# priesttj Says:
September 17th, 2009 at 12:13 am
Palmer didn’t play well until about his 25th start. Late in his second season starting. Which was in the same season Russell is in. Same with Manning well into his second season starting, Elway included.
Wether we’re making excuses or not Brien, Russell isn’t going anywhere so keep sweating. And he will be great in the near future as things start to settle around him just like every other great QB. It takes about 30 starts before they start to become consistent.
You screaming and yelling about it aint going to change it. It is what it is………..period
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Priest you aren’t telling the truth at all and you know it! All what you just said about Manning and Palmer not showing anything until their 25th start isn’t true at all.
September 17th, 2009 at 12:15 am
Plunketthead Says:
September 17th, 2009 at 12:00 am
JR seems to be accurate when he hits Miller in the chest
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Knows the route and where the f’ers gonna be.
Not alot of that happening with the rookie wides. Walker must really suck to keep him on ice.
You’ll see Russell’s accuracy and numbers go up when Schilens takes the field again…just hope he can stay healthy…
September 17th, 2009 at 12:17 am
Forget j walker. Acquire from waivers Hank basket who can play special teams n is solid route runner, cut watkins. Sign Amani Toomer for between minimum cut j walker. Amani can teach Murphy, DHB, n Miller route running n ways to get open n seperation from CB. It is simple if we get smart wrs JR passing rating will be high cuz da problem is the wide outs not JR.
September 17th, 2009 at 12:21 am
246. Baskets got hands, but not “Raider speed”. Cutting Walker would cost big money (then again, there was Hall) and Toomer would be picked up, so would Marvin Harrison if teams thought they could still contribute on the field. (You’d think teams like KC would…)
Maybe they could assist SAN JAY LAL…
He should be on the hot seat for not teaching Murphy to secure the dam ball!
September 17th, 2009 at 12:51 am
Wow….
DHB said he had a a solid game on MON!!
I did’nt even know that he played!!
Not a good sign!!
He pretty much told the fans to go F’ OFF!!
Since we dont pay him??
Somthing tells me , his jersy will not be a hott seller this yr!!
September 17th, 2009 at 2:56 am
Bey will catch on. Needs serious reps with Russell he never really got…hammy in the pre…
September 17th, 2009 at 4:30 am
Morning NATION!!!
September 17th, 2009 at 4:36 am
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September 17th, 2009 at 4:46 am
jhill Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
4 days?
Where are you Vegas?
I can drop you off a care pkg. I’ll be headed down the 405 about 9 am tmw
You are TRULEY THE MAN Jhill.A friend with weed is a friend indeed!!!
September 17th, 2009 at 4:56 am
Will this be another year of sub par linebacker play and playing strictly zone on 3rd and long? Our LBs were laughed at on national TV, how many sacks will our LBs have by mid season, 0. I would have sworn Ryan was calling the coverages Monday night or is it true Mr. Davis hates to blitz on 3rd and long and he instructs the coaches not to do so?
September 17th, 2009 at 5:20 am
After 6 horrible years never utter the “We got nowhere to go but Up” logic. Most of the young guys played pretty well Morrison and Howard aren’t new guys watch the game how late and slow they are to react every one thought with DL improvement the LB would shine but damn make a play. I don’t count that TD on Nhamdi Routt should have had that one.
September 17th, 2009 at 5:26 am
The D is pretty much the same as last year, just with more beef upfront, and minus a weak against the run Burgess.
Marshall’s job is most likely not to fool with the scheme at all (we saw no blitzing, no zone blitzing, which is his speciality). He is doing what his is told and just teaching fundementals, like STAY in your gaps and wrap up. What a joke.
We have 2 great corners who can take out the WR’s, Branch can cover a tight end and Eugene can play center field. Then one of our LB’s covers the tailback out of the backfield and we send a LB or two on the blitz.
We can cover one on one so I don’t get why we don’t send the extra dudes after the QB!
I know we got good preasure with 4 guys, but it would be better to throw a brutal blitz in once in a while to keep them honest and WACK the QB.
September 17th, 2009 at 6:01 am
Hopefully we will BLITZ Sunday
September 17th, 2009 at 6:05 am
Good morning Nation The Only Nation
Once again Terrapin and SnB making valid points.
Jmac was money in the first half we should have been up by 21 or at least scored 21. Imagine the frustration on Rivers then if we would have been up by 21, He couldnt even handle it when we were tied up. In my opinion he should have been ejected for throwing a football at a players head out of anger. Or at least let Jmac throw at Merriman’s head with all his might, that sounds even to me. Bey will be fine once teams think why double him he cant catch, thats when he breaks free lol. If he sucks so bad why the double and triple team on him, not even Jett got doubled. We will catch KC sleeping with the playaction to start the game off, they will be overly aggressive 8 in the box and we will hit them deep.
September 17th, 2009 at 6:05 am
Good Morning Nation!
JerryMac, could you pass this on to the Raider Def Coordinator. Thx in advance.
Blitz
Definition: A defensive strategy in which a linebacker or defensive back vacates his normal responsibilities in order to pressure the quarterback. The object of a blitz is to tackle the quarterback behind the line of scrimmage or force the quarterback to hurry his pass.
Pronunciation: Blits
Also Known As: Red Dog
Examples:
When a defensive line is having trouble putting pressure on the quarterback, the defensive coordinator may decide to help them out by sending one or more linebackers or defensive backs on a blitz.
September 17th, 2009 at 6:10 am
GOOD MORNONG SPORT’S FAN’A,4EVA,NOMOREFARGAS,COPENHAGEN. IS IT 2 EARLY 2 CALL THIS A MUST WIN AGAINST K.C. ?
September 17th, 2009 at 6:12 am
repost!
Florida Pete Says:
September 16th, 2009 at 4:18 pm
i recreated a spreadsheet like the one i had in the early 90’s…
this is what it tells me will happen this weekend:
Oakland
1st Downs 22
Total Plays 70
Total Yards 400
Passing 180
Rushing 220
Yards per rush 4.7
Kansas City
1st Downs 16
Total Plays 54
Total Yards 220
Passing 160
Rushing 60
Final Score
Raiders 31
Kansas City 13
September 17th, 2009 at 6:13 am
The way it’s been Dirt-Lot it’s never 2 early,imo
September 17th, 2009 at 6:15 am
man wtfffffffffffffffffff
fix this damn site please already
September 17th, 2009 at 6:15 am
Very true, we MUST win this game or it’s over. We can not be 0-2
September 17th, 2009 at 6:16 am
I AGREE 4EVA, THIS ORGANISATION HAS 2 LEARN HOW 2 WIN AGAIN, A TUFF LOSS IS PART OF THAT LEARNING CURVE (I HOPE)U HAVE 2 WIN A FEW TO KNOW HOW THAT FEEL’S ALSO.NOW IS THE TIME..
September 17th, 2009 at 6:17 am
Lets use fargas on kick returns and let rankin be our 3rd back, imagine his crash test mentality going full speed at there coverage team wow BOOM!
September 17th, 2009 at 6:22 am
– Cable estimated free safety Michael Huff for 30 or more plays, mostly on passing downs. Huff intercepted a pass and recovered a fumble.
“He was absolutely tremendous,” Cable said. “Not one coverage bust, got everybody aligned, made some calls and, obviously, the two great plays.”
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Great quote coach. Build up his trade value so we don’t have to just cut the bust outright. Huff is the Nap Harris of safeties…
September 17th, 2009 at 6:24 am
We call ourselves loyal, the most loyal fans there is. Then why are we so quick to dog our players when they make mistakes, why not embrace them and give them a confidence boost. After 6 years of this i know it gets frustrating but breaking furniture and being angry all the time, what does that do really. The players make there money and as far as i know they dont pay for the stuff we break when they lose. Love the team but also love the crust of the team. From the weakest player to the best player, giving them confidence instead of booing them. So that players know wo these fans are with us through thick and thin not just when we win. Jmac i mean come on he is a leader, he is going to be great. Look at his dimeanor would you want to have Cutler right now throwing his teamates under the bus. Jmac knows it’s not his fault but he will not place blame or point fingers. He will take it on the chin for his teamates. He is the leader of this team and he will be great and after he becomes the great 1, wouldnt it be great if he knew we stuck by him the whole way.
September 17th, 2009 at 6:26 am
Dont need good hands on kickoff returns, look at sproles how many did he bobble. Besides didnt fargas return kicks his rookie year, i think he did not sure though. Funny about keeping him dinged up.
September 17th, 2009 at 6:30 am
LMAO @ Fargas on kickoff returns. A good way to keep him dinged up! Of course, he has hands of stone…
September 17th, 2009 at 6:33 am
GOOD POINT R8DR4LIFE21 POST-368. WHEN U HEAR ABOUT SOME OF THE PLAYER’S PARTY’N IT UP IN THE LOCKER-ROOM AFTER A LOSS, I SAY SOME,IT MAKES ME WONDER..
September 17th, 2009 at 6:35 am
I agree R8dr4lfe21
September 17th, 2009 at 6:35 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Dirt Lot…I would consider it a must win because we cannot afford to go 0-2 in our division right now. They have to play hard like they did in the opener and find a way to steal this victory in Arrowhead!!!
September 17th, 2009 at 6:36 am
plus I no longer have anything 2 break LOL
September 17th, 2009 at 6:36 am
GOOD DAY ROCKSTAR, HUFF 2 THE PRO-BOWL,WONDER HOW MUCH HE PAID 4 HIS TICKET AND WHERE HIS SEAT IS..
September 17th, 2009 at 6:36 am
good morning AM crew.
Michael Huff to the Pro Bowl!
September 17th, 2009 at 6:38 am
Fargas, Barnes & Walker are playing against KC?
shoot. this game will be a blowout.
Raiders win 34-10
September 17th, 2009 at 6:41 am
=)
September 17th, 2009 at 6:42 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
September 17th, 2009 at 6:36 am
good morning AM crew.
Michael Huff to the Pro Bowl!
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In Canada maybe.
September 17th, 2009 at 6:43 am
WE’RE GOING 2 KC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WE’RE GOING 2 KC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WE’RE GOING 2 KC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 17th, 2009 at 6:43 am
BSJ & TW:
you may refer to me as a Joe Wilson/Kevin Skinner combo
Mike Nugent is lame
September 17th, 2009 at 6:44 am
When Huff sucks we jump on him, then he does something good and we still give him crap. Sounds kinda f’d up dont you think. Like a kid getting an “A” in class and saying well it’s not an A+ but oh well lol.
September 17th, 2009 at 6:47 am
Why oh why didn’t we look to get a seasoned vet at wr just imagine if we had got I.Bruce instead of Walker. Come on the chiefs will have Thigpen we gotta win gonna need something to get over the beating Boise is gonna hand my Bulldogs on Friday.
September 17th, 2009 at 6:48 am
r8dr4lfe21: exactly!
BSJ: YOU PEOPLE need to quit hating on my boy Huff. he’s a good football player and an asset to the secondary
-a true fan
September 17th, 2009 at 6:49 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
September 17th, 2009 at 6:43 am
BSJ & TW:
you may refer to me as a Joe Wilson/Kevin Skinner combo
Mike Nugent is lame
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I picture more of a Steve Forbes/Susan Boyle combo.
September 17th, 2009 at 6:49 am
Hank Baskett went to the Colts.
September 17th, 2009 at 6:53 am
r8dr4lfe21 Says:
September 17th, 2009 at 6:44 am
When Huff sucks we jump on him, then he does something good and we still give him crap. Sounds kinda f’d up dont you think. Like a kid getting an “A” in class and saying well it’s not an A+ but oh well lol.
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One A is good! But Huff’s GPA is still about 2.1, so (to continue your metaphor) he remains in danger of flunking out.
September 17th, 2009 at 6:53 am
Steve Forbes/Howie Long maybe ???
BSJ: I see you as a Hairo Torres/Joe Biden combo …
September 17th, 2009 at 6:56 am
Like i said before half the teams are 0-1 and the other half 1-0. I’m pretty sure not all the 1-0 teams will make the playoff’s and not all the 0-1 teams will be left out. Denver is not playoff bound. truthfully would you prefer to win while playing like Denver, or lose playing like we did knowing we will get better and we showed heart against a team so called expertx are crowning already. Denver will realize that the win was a fluke against a weak team. Yet we will play better if we play with the same intensity we did monday night.
September 17th, 2009 at 6:59 am
My metaphor was intended as a hey give him credit when he does good. It showes he gets some props when he does, if your negative even when he does good then whats the point he gets paid anyways right. Mcfadden fumbled but you dont talk negative about him, why cause he is still young and he is still learning, in that case so is Bey so lets just give props when the do good, and hang in there when they dont. By no means should we ever let this team know that they let us down. They need confidence not negativity.
September 17th, 2009 at 7:00 am
BACK A PLAYER AFTER A BAD SERIES- A BAD GAME- A BAD YEAR, BUT AN ENTIRE SUCK AZZ CAREER, ???
September 17th, 2009 at 7:00 am
Cleveland will beat Dungver
Baltimore will beat Sandy Eggo
Oakland will beat KC
standings heading into week 3:
Raiders 1-1
donks 1-1
dolts 1-1
chefs 0-2
September 17th, 2009 at 7:01 am
I HOPE SO R8DR4LIFE21, FOR HIM AND THE TEAM .
September 17th, 2009 at 7:04 am
He is so young you can hardly call it a carreer yet, and he is starting to come around.
September 17th, 2009 at 7:04 am
Mcalister out of shape and a lil slower, but hey you know what if he is a Raider lets show him some love. Welcome to the raider nation.
September 17th, 2009 at 7:09 am
DHB is raw, everyone knew that coming in, expectations for rookie WR’s are never high, give the kid a break, some guys can just come in and play like Murphy but that’s rarely the case.
CB’s know they can’t run with DHB that’s why he draw a flag vs Dallas in the preseason and again on monday, his presence is being felt already, production should come as soon as he learns the nuances of the position.
Schilens in the preseason and Murphy in week one are getting open, some of that has to do with teams keeping an eye on DHB at all times, otherwise they’d just put a single guy on Darrius and double either Schilens or Murphy.
September 17th, 2009 at 7:11 am
Raiders sign Chris McAlister
September 17th, 2009 at 7:15 am
Pete’s Magical NFL Spreadsheet says:
Cleveland
1st Downs 17
Total Plays 62
Total Yards 288
Passing 200
Rushing 88
Denver
1st Downs 15
Total Plays 57
Total Yards 306
Passing 156
Rushing 81
Final Score
Cleveland 14
Denver 23
September 17th, 2009 at 7:17 am
Pete’s Magical NFL Spreadsheet says:
Baltimore
1st Downs 26
Total Plays 75
Total Yards 434
Passing 261
Rushing 173
San Diego
1st Downs 15
Total Plays 64
Total Yards 253
Passing 200
Rushing 113
Final Score
Baltimore 28
San Diego 23
September 17th, 2009 at 7:19 am
Nnamdi21 Says:
September 17th, 2009 at 7:11 am
Raiders sign Chris McAlister
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http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/laland/2009/09/hot-property-nfls-chris-mcalister-lists-his-bhpo-mansion.html
September 17th, 2009 at 7:20 am
What’s up, AM crew?
When did we sign free agent Michael Huff? This guy looked pretty good in his first game as a Raider Monday Night.
Wait we drafted him? When? In WHAT round?
But, hey if it takes a while for him to show up, it takes a while. If it’s a one-game fluke, we’ve already drafted two guys to be the future at the position. I like Huff, and I root for him. When used properly (to his strengths), he plays well.
With regards to defense and the scheme, I think the coaches will be looking at film and seeing the front 4 disrupting everything and pushing O lineman backward.
If Cable has half a brain in his head, he and Marshall will call plays that cater to the strengths of his players and minimize errors while keeping in mind their weaknesses.
They played well enough to win Monday and I think the proper adjustments need to be made.
I’ve always said Al wants to win his way, but I think at this point, he’d rather just win, baby.
We saw how his man on man, beat-you-with-superior-athletes-in-one-on-one-situations philosophy works with a solid D line and quick, cover LBs.
The reason the D looked soft at the end was that we got away from that a bit.
And even though Rivers was getting pressured all night, give that guy some credit for making a real nice throw to Jackson and getting the ball to Sproles up the middle.
The draw play TD was also a good play call for SD, as we were looking pass.
Our biggest issue on D? EASILY, the lack of a strong presence in the middle.
September 17th, 2009 at 7:20 am
McAlister latest Raider?
http://www.raidernationstation.com/exclusives
September 17th, 2009 at 7:23 am
no-one’s mentioned it… but we got a pretty solid game out of Trevor Scott…
suddenly he discovered how to play the run…
clearly Seymour’s presence is huge…
HUGE!!!!
September 17th, 2009 at 7:25 am
Scott played well, except when they made him drop into coverage.
September 17th, 2009 at 7:25 am
408408
September 17th, 2009 at 7:28 am
It is amazing to me how quickly some of you guys throw Huff under the bus. He had a good game give him credit. He was playing out of position when he first came into the league they just moved him back last year. Yeah he didn’t do so good last year but he had a good game there Monday. lets wait and see how he does the rest of the year. If he goes back to the Huff of the last 2 years or so then yeah he is a bust. But if he continues to play how he did Monday then great.
Remember how long it took for Aso to become the player he has? What would all you be saying if we released him after 2 years and he was playing somewhere else like he is now?
September 17th, 2009 at 7:29 am
Raider wideout woes…
http://www.raidernationstation.com/2009_regular_season
You have to question the logic of signing Bey and then handing him to Lal…
September 17th, 2009 at 7:30 am
FIRST KC GAME WITH NO GONZALES IN YEARS…
September 17th, 2009 at 7:31 am
The offense can be polished a bit by, again, by calling plays that cater to the strengths of our players (QB, WR, RB specifically).
Russell: Give Russell a short field to work with initially with high percentage passes. Lots of PA, get the opponent to bite on run or dump-off and beat them deep with that arm. If teams continue to double DHB, someone else will be open. If they double Murphy or Chaz, get it to DHB (or, um Z. MIller, I hate to say ‘duh’ ’cause I feel like a chump saying it, but very appropriate here – duh). He needs to get the ball out more quickly. Takes too much tme on his drop back and wind up.
DHB: Give him the ball. Forget the decoy stuff. As a young player, he needs to be involved in the offense and get catches. I expect him to have 3 or 4 for 40 in KC. Build his confidence.
Murphy: Keep doing what you’re doing. That kid is polished and no stranger to big games.
McFadden: Get the guy in space! Stop running him between tackles every play. Cater to his strengths, avoid his weaknesses. SD was playing the middle of the field all night. You bounce one to the outside and catch them sleeping.
Bush: Give this man the ball. That’s it.
Fargas: Will be an asset in the 4th quarter. Most of you hate on Fargas, but used properly, he is certainly a positive.
Myers: I’d like to see some 2 TE sets and see what Myers can do with all eyes on Miller.
September 17th, 2009 at 7:32 am
Whose roster spot will McAlister get? We need all our WRs with Miller/Chaz/JLH out. OL? TE? Lawton? Hope its not Rankin with Fargas back…
September 17th, 2009 at 7:35 am
I have no problem at all with McFadden and Bush pounding the rock the first 3 quarters with Fargas coming in during the 4th to bust some heads and roll over a tired D.
September 17th, 2009 at 7:36 am
Raiders sign Chris McAlister
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good. can we finally get rid of John Bowie?
McAlister can be our new nickel back, since Routt sucks … Routt can play in the dime – maybe
September 17th, 2009 at 7:36 am
BSJ
Hopefully a scrub CB. Give up on the Bowie project. You’ve already looked bad Al, you really think anyone cares if you let go of the “Moss pick.”?
Routt in the dime, as me made almost no real effort on that pass to Jackson. Granted, it was a good pass and it got Nnamdi turned around, but I’ve replayed it and replayed it and slowed it down and it really looks to me that Aso pulls off a bit and plays the sideline because he sees Routt and thinks that he’s got an angle on the ball.
September 17th, 2009 at 7:37 am
Finally some positive post and some positive words on our team. The media hates and so do other fans lets not join them show our team the love. 2 TE sets is a great idea with bush in the backfield and Mcfadden spread out with DHB running the deep route. The defense alignment would have to be 4/3 D. Mismatch with a linebacker covering Dmac.
September 17th, 2009 at 7:38 am
I think were missing 2 corner pieces. A RT and a true MLB
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aside from the 2 false starts, Green was solid on MNF.
so was Capt Kirk and he was playing hurt!
September 17th, 2009 at 7:38 am
409. Sounds good…
September 17th, 2009 at 7:39 am
I like Fargas and think he needs to be utilized.
Problem is our PR/KR situation.
We need to dress Rankin so he can return kicks. Remember, JLH was the #2 KR guy.
And we’re seriously considering replacing him with HIRAM EUGENE?
If that’s the case, Cable is obviously gambling. He’s willing to bet that a stronger running attack (McFarbush) will outweigh the return game.
September 17th, 2009 at 7:42 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
September 17th, 2009 at 7:32 am
Whose roster spot will McAlister get? We need all our WRs with Miller/Chaz/JLH out. OL? TE? Lawton? Hope its not Rankin with Fargas back…
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RNS thinks its Routt…
http://www.raidernationstation.com/exclusives
September 17th, 2009 at 7:43 am
The puzzle is almost complete, I think were missing 2 corner pieces. A RT and a true MLB or OLB either way i believe Morrisson is interchangeable.
September 17th, 2009 at 7:46 am
I think we should give DHB a WR screen or maybe a reverse like we did with JLH early just to get him involved in the game and maybe get rid of some of the jitters. Let him get hit for the first time that always got rid of my nervousness when I played. Just my opinion what do you guys think?
September 17th, 2009 at 7:46 am
418. Don’t think so. Morrison played WILL linebacker once early on, but has been MLB mostly. Discussion nearly every pre season lastely seem to have him switched around but he always ends up at MLB.
September 17th, 2009 at 7:47 am
415. He played well against the Chargers so it seems like after all this time we souldn’t waste a possible starting safety on returns, but Tyvon Branch was supposed to be looked at for this…
September 17th, 2009 at 7:49 am
LA to TheBay: I don’t give the dolts credit for anything …
aside from the fact that the refs screwed us out of 4 points before halftime and the final score was SD on top by 4, the dolts simply took what we gave them
Rivers didn’t do anything in the final 2 minutes that Gradkowski couldn’t do… screen passes & dumpoffs against our prevent defense. Why wouldn’t they? They had all 3 timeouts and were getting 10-20 yards per play since the Al Davis philosophy prevent defense had LB’s playing 10 yards behind the LOS, even further back than the first down marker. Any other team in the league with that much momentum and 3 1/2 quarters of dominant line play would have closed out that game and went to the locker room with a W.
don’t blame Marshall either, because Ryan’s defense did the same thing in game 1 against SD last year. coincidence? no! at least Cable diagnosed the problem and had the balls to say it in the media for why we lost. He didn’t sugar coat things and if we continue to play prevent defense in the 4th like that after he saw how ineffective it is, he’ll look like an absolute fool.
September 17th, 2009 at 7:49 am
RRS
412/413
Great minds think alike.
September 17th, 2009 at 7:51 am
Yeah thats what all great teams do use you’re 2 stud rb for 3 qt and bring in a less talented back great idea cause those 1 yrd runs will pound the D where do you get this, I didn’t see the Vikings pull Peterson late in game you want TD not 3 and outs. And of course I know our guys aren’t as good as Peterson
September 17th, 2009 at 7:52 am
I think we should give DHB a WR screen or maybe a reverse like we did with JLH early just to get him involved in the game
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I was just going to say that. LOL!
I was going to ask “should we try DHB on a reverse since Higgins is out?” haha
needless to say, my response is – YES
September 17th, 2009 at 7:58 am
since JLH is likely out and Nick Miller is definately out, who is the X receiver that backs up Heyward-Bey?
Todd Watkins?
Walker, Murphy & Schilens all play the same position, on the other side.
DHB/Murphy/Walker/Watkins is good enough to beat KC, but I’m not sure about Dungver with Chump Bailey … might have to rely on that running game again until Chaz is back at 100 percent
September 17th, 2009 at 8:00 am
Fargas averages 4.1 yds per carry in his career besides with his hard nosed crash test dummy style that would be perfect against a worn out D and should definantly keep the chains moving and the clock as well.
September 17th, 2009 at 8:03 am
Morning Nation,
Anyone got a linkie to confirmation of McAllister signing. He would be huge for us as a nickel back. Routt is servicable on the outside but struggles on the inside and has zero natural football instincts.
September 17th, 2009 at 8:04 am
NoMoreFargas. Remember 2 years ago when Huggy went off and crushed both KC and Miami late in the games? He busted them up.
September 17th, 2009 at 8:07 am
RRS
I agree with you for the most part regarding our D. If we’re putting pressure on Rivers, he can’t make those passes.
They took what we gave them and I made a point earlier that Cable did address it and if he’s smart will correct it. You don’t come out and say it unless you do anything about it. If he were to continue with it, he would have given the company line. Because he didn’t is why I think he’ll play to win and not play to not lose.
I do think that Rivers made good throws that any capable QB could have made and one nice one to Jackson for that TD. I dislike the Chargers but I’ll give credit where credit’s due. They took what we gave them and made plays without mistakes.
The good news? So did our offense. We can beat people over the top. This is apparent. What no one will expect is when we start beating ‘em 80% of the time underneath.
September 17th, 2009 at 8:09 am
427. Gross. Both of those defenses were decimated.
So sick of hearing about his awesome Miami game. THERE WAS NO MLB!!!
Zach Thomas AND Channing Crowder were injured and OUT that day.
Yuck! Fargas will do his spastic routine and get injured soon enough.
We better not see his azz on any goal line either…
September 17th, 2009 at 8:09 am
Using Fargas in the 4th quarter is like playing prevent defense in the 4th quarter. Remember Bush in the 4th quarter last year against Tampa Bay?
September 17th, 2009 at 8:11 am
LA to TheBay Says:
September 17th, 2009 at 7:39 am
I like Fargas and think he needs to be utilized.
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Yeah utilized on the bench on not getting into the game period. It is a damn shame the AD scholarship fund for talent lacking players is still going strong
September 17th, 2009 at 8:12 am
# Stabler76 Says:
September 17th, 2009 at 8:09 am
Using Fargas in the 4th quarter is like playing prevent defense in the 4th quarter. Remember Bush in the 4th quarter last year against Tampa Bay?
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Exactly. The guy isnt a first down machine and he isnt a short yardage back. What is the freaking point?
September 17th, 2009 at 8:13 am
KILL KC!!!
September 17th, 2009 at 8:14 am
Well, I should say our offense made plenty of mistakes, but took what was given and beat SD down the middle for two (2) TD passes.
Russell’s QB rating was not an accurate picture of his game. He managed the game. He made an outstanding throw after he saw the blown coverage. SDs DBs were pointing at eachother before Murhpy even crossed the goal line.
We frustrated SD. We beat them. We overpowered them. Outran them. Outhit them.
It’s not that we could have won the game anymore. It’s that we SHOULD have. I can’t say that about any game last year, even Buffalo.
I think that loss will serve to galvanize the team.
We must keep up the intensity. If our players played like they did Monday and the coaches keep in mind the strengths and weaknesses of the team, we’ll be OK.
September 17th, 2009 at 8:15 am
# Nnamdi21 Says:
September 17th, 2009 at 8:09 am
427. Gross. Both of those defenses were decimated.
So sick of hearing about his awesome Miami game. THERE WAS NO MLB!!!
Zach Thomas AND Channing Crowder were injured and OUT that day.
Yuck! Fargas will do his spastic routine and get injured soon enough.
We better not see his azz on any goal line either…
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Truth right here. Farglass isnt a good running back and has zero business player over Bush
September 17th, 2009 at 8:16 am
My greatest fear is Oakland will come out full of its self and play down to its opponents.
I pray we don’t see another roll over like last years Saints Denver ect games.
If they can play with the same Seymour intesity, they can and will win…
September 17th, 2009 at 8:18 am
last time we faced KC in game 1 Russell had very few opportunities to throw the ball, despite injuries to both Fargas & McFadden. that was a Kiffin coached team.
we lost that 2nd game against KC thanks to a Fargas fumble and a Janikowski fake FG attempt. that was a Cable coached team.
Having said that, if Cable’s team plays anything like they did on monday night we will win this football game by at least 2 TD’s
September 17th, 2009 at 8:21 am
Hitting that is deserving of a KC /Oakland rivalry.
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YEAH BABY…GAWD I LOVE PLAYING KC…NO MATTER OUR’S OR THEIR RECORDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 17th, 2009 at 8:22 am
I loved the intensity Monday night. I stood in front of the TV for each play. I would like to see some more big hitting from the offense and defense. Hitting that is deserving of a KC /Oakland rivalry.
September 17th, 2009 at 8:22 am
how I do dat???
September 17th, 2009 at 8:22 am
Fargas is not a closer (or at least not like Bush), just some fresh legs in the 4th, and he runs hard.
I see no problem with mixing in Fargas as long as Bush gets the tough carriers and the game is on his shoulders.
McFadden is explosive and should have plays designed to take advantage of this.
Your guys’ dislike of Fargas is getting in the way of what I’m saying. The way we used DMC on Monday night? We would have got more yards with Fargas.
My point is play to the strengths of your players, avoid exposing weaknesses.
You’ll here me say it a lot, only because I think that has been a major problem with this team over the last several years.
September 17th, 2009 at 8:34 am
yep Fargas is a gamer…rarely fumbles and would punish a defence in the 4th quartet,imo
September 17th, 2009 at 8:38 am
I don’t think Richard Seymour is shook up about the loss on Monday night.
He played for the Patriots since 2001 and they’ve been a much better football team than us since that time.
Losing by 4 to SD after outplaying them for 3 1/2 quarters is no big deal probably to him.
He probably remembers SD beating the Pats 30-10 last year. Getting beat by SD 41-17 in 2005 and getting beat by them 21-14 in 2002. During his career with the Pats they beat the dolts 3 of 6 meetings (twice in the playoffs). I think we’ll beat them in the next meeting and he’ll continue to be .500 against them for his career
September 17th, 2009 at 8:41 am
I hope Hiram Eugene plays better at punt returner than he does at free safety!
I don’t care if he fair catches every ball. We can’t afford any critical mistakes against division opponents …
September 17th, 2009 at 8:43 am
LA to TheBay Says:
September 17th, 2009 at 8:22 am
Your guys’ dislike of Fargas is getting in the way of what I’m saying. The way we used DMC on Monday night? We would have got more yards with Fargas.
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Its not that I dislike fargas, its taht DMAC and MBUSH give us the better chance for positive yards.
With all due respect, you have to factor in the adjustments made by san diego in the second half. DMAC, and MBUSH were running into 8 and 9 man fronts. The san diego defense as i predicted stacked the box and said hey JRUSS we dont think you can beat us.
Fargas would not have faired any better than either of in the second half….IMHO
I liked how cable had DMAC and MBUSH on the field at the same time to begin the game. Cable needs to be a little more creative….
September 17th, 2009 at 8:49 am
yeah Thec…I remember during the off-season most everybody wanted OO,Bush and Dmac on the field at the same time.Yep we ALL know how 2 use our guys!!!
September 17th, 2009 at 8:51 am
sign Tim Brown to a one game deal he can field punts. I am sure he can also go for that extra change.
September 17th, 2009 at 8:53 am
“I liked how cable had DMAC and MBUSH on the field at the same time to begin the game. Cable needs to be a little more creative….”
Agreed. I had a lot of hope when I saw our first offensive play of the game. Bush and DMC in the backfield. DMC in motion, handoff between the tackles to Bush. Nex time we see that look, it may very well be PA to DMC in the slot.
Also, 8 and 9 man fronts would be tough for any back to beat, which is why we should have gotten McBush in space in the 2nd half. We ere bottled up and didn’t care to do anything about it.
September 17th, 2009 at 8:54 am
Heyward-Bey said. “People want to see the stats. Everyone wants to see the big numbers. But reality is, if you come in, put in the work and help the team win…..
Can Someone pls remind DHB that the Raiders actually LOST the game. I think he got hit so hard on that one play that he thinks we won.
September 17th, 2009 at 8:54 am
man I hope they try 2 bring him back 2 quick
September 17th, 2009 at 8:55 am
Check this out. A little more detail regarding DHB.
See, Heyward-Bey thinks people aren’t giving him enough credit for clearing out one side of the field and drawing coverage his way so that Murphy and tight end Zach Miller can get open on a regular basis.
“Just the fact that I’m out there, Louis had four catches and Zach had six,” Heyward-Bey pointed out.
“That’s more than what any receiver had all last year put together almost. We’re almost halfway there in the first game. If you look at it that way, it’s great.
“If you look at it the other way, you’re like, ‘When is it going to happen?’ I look at it the other way. We’re improving as a team.”
per RaiderBeat.
September 17th, 2009 at 8:58 am
I don’t know that Jerry mentioned that…
“Wide receiver Chaz Schilens is back running again, a little less than one month after he fractured the fifth metatarsal in his left foot in a joint workout against the San Francisco 49ers.
It’s possible that Schilens will make his 2009 debut against the Denver Broncos on Sept. 27 at the Oakland Coliseum. That’s the hope, anyway.”
Good news.
September 17th, 2009 at 8:58 am
By now, Bey must realize he’s on a Davis scholarship, he’s heard that by now for sure.
September 17th, 2009 at 9:00 am
The fact that DHB is happy with that is what really concerns me. I would think he would want the ball in his hands not to just be a decoy but that is what he seems content with.
DHB our 30million dollar decoy.
September 17th, 2009 at 9:00 am
CJ
I’m sure DHB wants to catch passes.
Also, he needs to play the media better. The company line is standard policy with the Raiders. Sometimes it’s a lame coverup of the facts and nothing more than an excuse, sometimes it’s just plain smart.
What DHB should have said is:
“I’m just doing my part and executing the gameplan designed by the coaches. I ran the routes that were called. I think playing my part out there freed up some space for guys to get open, but you all should expect to see more from me in the very near future.”
And I think Cable was smart in NOT sticking to the comapny line with regards to the prevent defense. I think the Cable Guy would like to win some games.
September 17th, 2009 at 9:02 am
I am looking for Zach Miller to have a big game with JLH out. Hopefully, Murphy will also be OK he looked like he was limping on a couple of plays.
DHB you have to do more than clear people out. We need you to catch a pass that is reaaly what WRs are known for. I hope he is just playing the media and is not actually content with a game with no receptions.
September 17th, 2009 at 9:04 am
contempt?
September 17th, 2009 at 9:06 am
I think you guys are reading DHB all wrong.
He sounded pretty upset to me.
He said he’s a decoy. He said other guys are benefitting. He said that he does what the coaches told him. He said he doesn’t care what anyone thinks. He said he wants the team to get better.
Translated:
He said he’s not happy being a decoy. He said he’s not happy seeing JUST Murphy shine. He said he’s not happy with the decoy role the coaches are giving him. He certainly cares about what everyone thinks and has a chip on his shoulder. He said he wants to get better.
If he took advantage of the two catchable balls and Russell didn’t overthrow him when he was wide open, he could have very well been 3 for 65 with a TD.
He was a decoy, but they did throw to him. He didn’t catch. Period. Once he starts taking advantage of his limited opportunities, he’ll get more plays called for him and Russell will trust him more.
September 17th, 2009 at 9:06 am
the clock on my lap-top sayz 11:57
September 17th, 2009 at 9:07 am
Why would anyone double team a wide-eyed rookie who has yet to prove that he can actually catch the ball. Does DHB really think defenses are scared on him.
September 17th, 2009 at 9:10 am
Id be really pissed if I was JR. They guy has no intention on becoming your safety blanket or go-to guy. He is contempt simply being a decoy. Who cares about makin plays when the team really needs them.
September 17th, 2009 at 9:11 am
corrected:
Id be really pissed if I was JR. DHB has no intention on becoming your safety blanket or go-to guy. He is contempt simply being a decoy. Who cares about makin plays when the team really needs them.
September 17th, 2009 at 9:11 am
dhb is already sensitive after game 1, gotta be a man and step up
September 17th, 2009 at 9:16 am
I’d take Murphy over crabs
September 17th, 2009 at 9:16 am
lmao
September 17th, 2009 at 9:17 am
brien?
September 17th, 2009 at 9:17 am
crabtree would have been the go to guy.
September 17th, 2009 at 9:18 am
content???
not contempt???
September 17th, 2009 at 9:20 am
Crabtree makes DeAngelo Hall look like a team player…
Craptree is useless… most of all to himself… and to his family…
what a turd…
September 17th, 2009 at 9:21 am
crabtree and dhb still tied for catches after one game.
September 17th, 2009 at 9:24 am
Dear Mr. Heyward-Bey,
As your spiritual advisor i would recommend the following:
Run through your routes, and keep moving until you hear a whistle. (That means the play is over.)
Look for the ball, even if you are not the primary receiver on a given play.
Catch the ball if it is coming toward you; go get the ball if it is coming near you.
Pick a last name, this hyphen schit is getting on my nerves.
Love,
Florida Pete
September 17th, 2009 at 9:25 am
Hope Cable rethinks using Barnes on the right side. We need this guy to step up and say he can do it. Looks like he is content to pick up a check. Barnes RT Green RG.
September 17th, 2009 at 9:25 am
DHB after one game is the reason all the espn types were laughing on draft day.
September 17th, 2009 at 9:26 am
hey, i was crying and screaming on the 1st day of the draft…
on that we can agree…
September 17th, 2009 at 9:29 am
Give DHB a break. Maclin and Crabtree didn’t catch a pass on opening day either.
September 17th, 2009 at 9:29 am
dhb,..pretty expensive decoy.
September 17th, 2009 at 9:30 am
dhb likely gets about 15 catches all year,..at the most.
September 17th, 2009 at 9:31 am
Can we get a new thread. Lets hear about Chriss Mc.
September 17th, 2009 at 9:32 am
F Crabtree. Go buy his jersey if you like him so much. Dude has not done squat in the NFL. Rashawn Woods 2.
September 17th, 2009 at 9:32 am
The guy’s a project, but one I think will work out in the long run. Especially when Al converts him to starting CB.
The saving grace is that we did get one polished WR able to compete on day one.
September 17th, 2009 at 9:32 am
I’m still bemoaning the play when Todd Watkins was all alone wide wide open down the left side…first or second quarter…JR obviously never looked that way.
September 17th, 2009 at 9:35 am
Am I mistaken or did Murphy lead all rookies in week one statistically?
Should have an extra 19 yards and a TD to boot.
September 17th, 2009 at 9:36 am
I think it was more him not wanting make waves, complaining JR wasn’t looking his way or something.
He also wanted to quell the people who were saying he looked nervous.
Besides once schilens comes back, hes going to be a huge threat, because either they are going to have to single cover him or schilens is going to catch passes across the middle every down.
September 17th, 2009 at 9:36 am
I am not saying DHB is a bust already or that he isn’t going to be a good WR. I didn’t get to here the interview so don’t know if he sounded upset. I am just going off of what I am reading and from that it sounded like he was content in his role as just a decoy.
September 17th, 2009 at 9:37 am
DHB is no different than any other athlete today.
They are babies, they wine, cry have ego’s, say things like 3 million is not enough and take themselves out games (that one is real hard for me to understand).
He has an ego, he got called out and instead of being a man and taking the challenge he denied it and defended his manhood like a teenager would.
What do you expect from a bunch of guys that have never earned it but are paid millions coming out of college.
September 17th, 2009 at 9:38 am
The pressure is on for DHB to have an impact. He was choosen 7th overall. I dont buy the argument ” he is a decoy”… He should be throw to regularly, and he should be catching those throws.
September 17th, 2009 at 9:40 am
MaineRaida Says:
September 17th, 2009 at 9:32 am
I’m still bemoaning the play when Todd Watkins was all alone wide wide open down the left side…first or second quarter…JR obviously never looked that way.
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The film work will tell this story, should be a great “lessons learned” for our QB…
September 17th, 2009 at 9:41 am
I think DHB and Mitchell may have you rethinking your reaction on draft day eventually.
Sure, the #7 pick could have been used for RT, C, or LB.
But if you think about it, if it’s true we went after Runyan, that’s the RT. We signed Barnes, that’s LT. We traded for Satele, and the coaches used Brown as motivation for Capt. Kirk to step up his game.
We made the moves most of us wanted with veterans, rather than the draft. Al got his QB, WR, and RB all in the top 10.
Mitchell and DHB were the guys he wanted, not settled on. If we waited on Mitchell, he would have gotten snagged by Chicago. All this negativity around DHB and ‘oh, he’s a reach.’ You mean to tell me no one else takes him in the 1st round? Please, the guy is gone in the first 32 picks and is a project wherever he goes. If the Patriots drafted him, the reaction would be ‘he’ll sit behind Welker and Moss and will be developed and bread into the next big thing.’
The problem is we don’t have the luxury of time or experienced players ahead of him. We want him to make an immediate, direct impact, not indirect (pulling coverage).
The good news is he’s a hard worker, smart as hell, and stays after practice. He’s a vet in a rookie’s body with rookie skills and untapped potential.
September 17th, 2009 at 9:45 am
It’s not DHB’s fault Davis overpaid for him.
It’s a good thing. If DHB was a diva, it would be bad. He’s not. I think, again, you’re misreading his comments.
He will have to live up to that #7 and that money. Same with Huff. Huff acts like a pro, has the talent, but needs to put it together.
Sometimes it takes a few years.
September 17th, 2009 at 9:45 am
maryland_raider
Yeah I can barely pay my rent with 14.6 Million how are we going to buy food!!!
And people in Somalia think they have it bad.
September 17th, 2009 at 9:48 am
My favorite was Latrell Sprewell when he was due 14.6 million and demanded a new deal cause as he said “how can I afford to feed my family on this”
September 17th, 2009 at 9:49 am
Hiram a good “catcher” … who’s pitching?
September 17th, 2009 at 9:52 am
DHB will be fine, when you look at it he said the right thing. He is responsible to his coachs and the team. Not the fans. I don’t think that it was an accident that Miller had his best game in terms of yardage. The middle of the field opened up for him because the SD DB’s had to respect the deep threat. When Chaz gets back DHB will get his catches. This week the WR’s will step up big time and i also expect either McFadden or Bush to make some plays out of the backfield. If KC focus’s on Miller then everyone else has a big game.
Best part of this week is no one is talking about Raider issues at the Left Tackle position. Because there are none. I went back and looked at Mario had a great game. Hope he builds on it this week. Kelly was solid also, it doesn’t show up on stats but he was very disruptive. I think that this team gets stronger as the season goes on. 9 or 10 wins this year is a realistic goal.
September 17th, 2009 at 9:57 am
KK
really? i didn’t know that. What i’m saying is that the safteys had to respect the deep threat and didn’t seem to bracket or Hi-Low Miller as much as last year. Thus making it a little easier for Miller to operate.
September 17th, 2009 at 9:58 am
only on this blog can i respond to a KK before he types it. stay tuned for lotto numbers from the future.
September 17th, 2009 at 10:01 am
DT42
“Kelly was solid also, it doesn’t show up on stats but he was very disruptive. I think that this team gets stronger as the season goes on. 9 or 10 wins this year is a realistic goal.”
I agree with your post and would expand on the last point in that the ENTIRE defense looked outstanding with Seymour in there.
I think he legitimizes this defense in a hurry and plays a more significant role here than he did in New England.
In his frst game with no practice, they move him all over the line and pushed the LOS scrimmage back in every instance.
The biggest direct beneficiary of Seymour in the lineup is Greg Ellis. He looked outstanding. He was responsible for the LT fumble, a sack, and several pressures.
September 17th, 2009 at 10:02 am
Z Miller caught balls over the middle all last year, before we ever heard of Heyward Bey, Cmon.
September 17th, 2009 at 10:03 am
Z Miller will get his no matter who else is out there, but I think having capable WRs who are deep threats certainly can’t hurt Zach’s game.
September 17th, 2009 at 10:06 am
“We didn’t because our owner is Al Davis, whatever, there is nothing we can do about it, but if we can get competitive again and start making the playoffs I wont care how we got there.”
Exactly. If we got the players who can take us there, I don’t care how they were got, how much we paid, or how well they’re liked.
Branch looked real good in that game, by the way. Coverage game can be polished a bit, but man he is greased lightning out there and can hit.
September 17th, 2009 at 10:08 am
Z Miller & Russell hit that seam pass all day last year, with NO WR’s.
September 17th, 2009 at 10:09 am
That Chris Johnson hit on Sproles reminded me a whole lot of one he put on Slaton last season.
Johnson looked great as well. It’s certain he’ll give up some yards play man with Aso on the opposite side, but he played well when it counted.
September 17th, 2009 at 10:09 am
Z.Millers 1 game vs SD last year 5 rec 95 yrd 1 TD
September 17th, 2009 at 10:11 am
The point is with so many holes to fill on our team we could not afford the shiny sports car of a pick the last two years. But we took McFadden and DHB respectively anyways. When we should have been building the O and D-Line.
We didn’t because our owner is Al Davis, whatever, there is nothing we can do about it, but if we can get competitive again and start making the playoffs I wont care how we got there.
September 17th, 2009 at 10:16 am
NoMoreFargas Says:
September 17th, 2009 at 10:09 am
Z.Millers 1 game vs SD last year 5 rec 95 yrd 1 TD
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One of those catches was for 65yards. So that means……carry the 2…plus 5……minus 6…..
4 catches for 30 yards.
September 17th, 2009 at 10:22 am
Krappy, you seem energized and rearin’ to go! I thought you didn’t wake up until at least noon, so you must’ve crapped your pants and then pounded an extra large bowl of Metamucil to get going.
But be careful, old dude – you can crash just as quickly. And you know what that means – wandering aimlessly down the block to Arby’s with your pants around your ankles.
And with no recent sign of your grandson Brian the Genital, I don’t know who going to drive down there to corral your old ass, stuff you in the trunk, and then hose you off in the backyard once they get you home.
At least promise you keep your head out of the microwave until Brian makes an appearance, ok Krappy?
September 17th, 2009 at 10:22 am
Lol.
September 17th, 2009 at 10:24 am
So in you’re magical world you take out big gains ok so throw out the SD game and were undefeated sweet!
September 17th, 2009 at 10:24 am
I believe that was Zach’sonly TD last year.
What does that tell us? He is not being utilized in the red zone. If Cable calls plays like he should, Zach should have at least 5 this year.
September 17th, 2009 at 10:26 am
congratulations
September 17th, 2009 at 10:33 am
Silver-n-Black666 Says:
September 17th, 2009 at 10:11 am
The point is with so many holes to fill on our team we could not afford the shiny sports car of a pick the last two years. But we took McFadden and DHB respectively anyways. When we should have been building the O and D-Line.
We didn’t because our owner is Al Davis, whatever, there is nothing we can do about it, but if we can get competitive again and start making the playoffs I wont care how we got there.
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*sigh*
Law according to Al. “The team with the most points at the end of the game wins.”
You fix the D by fixing the O.
Oaklands D is predicated on rushing the passer and covering the receivers. Thats why it suffered against the run.
I don’t have to explain how putting up points and sustaining drives is critical to helping a D like that too do I?
Oakland runs a zone blocking system that uses “undersized” more agile linemen NOT at a premium in most teams straight line blocking schemes. There fore more readily available with out burning 1st round picks.
On D, again, PASS RUSH / COVERAGE is the emphasis. Davis had Pro Bowl caliber Derrick Burgess under contract so he didn’t “need” to take a 1st round DE like say oh, I don’t know…Vernon Ghoulston or Howie Long’s kid, neither of whom did jack so far, so how would that have helped?
I’m bored with this.
Figure it out for yourselves. You lament Davis’s genius when you don’t even understand it.
Not even the basics of it…
September 17th, 2009 at 10:39 am
I will never eat at Arby’s again.
September 17th, 2009 at 10:47 am
Looks like Cassel wil be the starter for the Chiefs Sunday.
From the K.C. Star Blog tweeter:
kb_kcstar: Just left practice. Looked like Matt Cassel and Bobby Wade are already establishing a rapport.
September 17th, 2009 @ 11:46 am
September 17th, 2009 at 10:49 am
Haley said in the Star thet since he grew up in the Steeler organization, he “hates” the Raiders.
We need to give him a new reason to hate.
September 17th, 2009 at 10:49 am
I’m tired of the fans hating on the raiders and JRUSS, he said they will win and they are busting there buts, i saw a better team on monday they were hitting the chargers in the mouth, that was great, they will beat KC then Denver, wait till Schilens gets back, teams are going to be scared of the Raiders then we can tell sapp to shut up.
September 17th, 2009 at 10:51 am
Big Chill, until they start winning you’ll have people hating the Raiders, JRuss, Davis and just about everything….we are allowed to hate. We are fans!!!!!
September 17th, 2009 at 10:54 am
Pissed off watching HBO’s “Inside the NFL”
Sapp is just that. What a ****in’ maroon. These so called “sportscasters” don’t even do their home work. Too busy being “stars” and personalities.
Sapp claims based on week one you can write teams like Detroit and Oakland off. They’re season is over.
Colinsworth agrees oh Oakland, they’re a mess out there…
These stupid ****s never even watched the game. They just watch the sanitized NFL version that LIES and slants the “highlights” to make it seem like Oakland didn’t beat the living **** out of SD on Monday night.
That “simplistic 70s -80s man on man defense” destroyed San Diego’s offensive line and may have wrecked the first half of their season maybe even their year.
It was a triumph for Old Al showing old school “My guys are badder than your guys” mentality that made the Raiders great.
It IS only football and bigger, faster, stronger DOES still matter.
Heck, Russell even dropped an old school 51 yd bomb on 4th and 15 for a go ahead TD in the 4th quarter.
It doesn’t GET any more Raider than that, but no…Oaklands a joke. Oakland still sucks, they’re seasons over…
Do these ****in idiots even hear what they’re saying? Its blatantly obvious they don’t KNOW what they’re saying.
The AFC West is a shambles, SD lost 2 starting linemen one of them a 1st game rookie and got its Pro Bowl left tackle injured. They lost L.T. too…
Denver? If you watched that game you know they played like a joke against the BUNGLES.
KC? They’re D looked better than expected but they’re right side O line is worse than Oaklands and they’re bringing in **** scrub wide outs ala Oakland LAST YEAR.
Its too bad the media coddles these p***ies and rarely calls them on their inaccurate bull**** because the washed up losers on “Inside the NFL” don’t know, and apparently don’t care what they’re talking about.
September 17th, 2009 at 10:54 am
Question before I go.
If a 6′6″ 310lb DE is the answer, why have we been playing 250lb tweeners for the last 6 years?
September 17th, 2009 at 10:54 am
big blow to the Patriots defense losing Jerod Mayo.
what will they do, move Adalius Thomas inside and start Derrick Burgess at ROLB?
Gary Guyton, Eric Alexander, Pierre Woods, Tully Banta-Cain & Rob Ninkovich are all scrubs.
September 17th, 2009 at 10:55 am
KoolKell Says:
September 17th, 2009 at 10:54 am
Question before I go.
If a 6′6″ 310lb DE is the answer, why have we been playing 250lb tweeners for the last 6 years?
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250 lb DE’s are not tweeners in the NFL…
they are LB’s playing out of position…
September 17th, 2009 at 10:58 am
How ya feelin today Kell?…take your meds yet?…you all good bro?
September 17th, 2009 at 10:58 am
and that had been the problem with our 4-3 mentality…
’cause it’s really a 2-5… 2 linemen, 3 linebackers, and 2 itty-bitty guys disguised as linemen…
now we are playing 4 linemen… 3 backers…
oh, and notice the difference…
September 17th, 2009 at 11:00 am
If a 6′6″ 310lb DE is the answer, why have we been playing 250lb tweeners for the last 6 years?
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Jay Richardson is 6′6″ 280 lbs and started the last 2 years. Tyler Brayton was 6′6″ 280 lbs as well
what are you talking about?
Kalimba Edwards & Trevor Scott were situational rush DE’s. Burgess was supposed to be that as well, but proved good enough to start and (when healthy) was a good player. Name 1 other 2-time Pro Bowler on the D-Line since 2003. I’m not gonna blame the run D on D-Burg alone. It takes 11 guys.
September 17th, 2009 at 11:00 am
Thank god for Jerry.
520. Because 3 time Super Bowl Champion, 5 time Pro Bowl, 6-6, 310 lb DT /DE’s don’t show up in every single draft and team usually don’t give them away when they do have them.
The trend has been speedy undersized DE’s has been the trend for some time now…not like its an Oakland exlusive that you feel is stupid or an error.
MOST 4-3 teams are doing it that way…
September 17th, 2009 at 11:01 am
No one in the media breathed a word about how Merriman was a ghost Monday night.
Two assists, one solo tackle and MAYBE a hurry.
“Oh! Look out! Its Larry English and “Lights Out” Merriman, oh Raiders! Better start crappin’ yourselves!
Yeah right.
Chargers, your headed down the drain, some of you know it,but some of you and some in the media think this team is a super bowl darling this year and have said as much.
Heck, I even thought you had one more year left in you. But I was wrong…
Your time has come and gone.
September 17th, 2009 at 11:07 am
Richard Seymour made an impact on our run defense in 2 days.
That’s something Warren Sapp couldn’t do in 4 years.
September 17th, 2009 at 11:11 am
Nnamdi21 Says:
September 17th, 2009 at 10:33 am
Figure it out for yourselves. You lament Davis’s genius when you don’t even understand it.
Not even the basics of it…
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Then go back to basics.
You start each years draft with a list of “NEEDS”, right?
You then, in a systamatic basis, go about filling those needs, whether through FA, or the draft.
Year after year after year you watch the NEEDS list basically ignored with Al, while he goes off on some tangent. It matters not that a particular player that you mentioned panned out or not. What matters is that you give your team a chance to replace weak players with those that you hope pan out. Obviously they all don’t, but you’ll NEVER FILL A HOLE when you don’t address it.
This years draft? Raiders had 5 areas of concern..addressed? 2? 3? (can’t be bothered to detail it for you, at this point)Bey was a head scratcher across the board, by everyone, including 98% of Raider fans. Mitchell? by 100% of Raider fans, and pretty much everyone in the NFL..and that’s just ONE YEAR.
You’re saying that makes sense? How can it?
Previous year?
Al uses the first round pick for a RB? When the Raiders had the #6 rushing attack in the NFL?
Was that the best use of that pick..right then?
HOW COULD IT BE?
Al consistently goes in knee jerk directions, on his own personal whims, which, unfortunately for the Raiders, are made on personal decisions, and NOT business decisions. Oh, HE may think it makes sense, but everyone around him knows it doesn’t..and that’s why his personal decisions are ruining the organization.
You just choose to not see it.
Reality bites sometimes. Admitting what I’m saying, for some, means they believe they’re going “against the Raiders” or “against Al”.
It’s not.
It’s wanting maximum bang for your buck.
With Al, no longer are you getting that.
Accepting that is your first step to recovery.
Trust me.
September 17th, 2009 at 11:12 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
September 17th, 2009 at 10:54 am
big blow to the Patriots defense losing Jerod Mayo.
what will they do, move Adalius Thomas inside and start Derrick Burgess at ROLB?
Gary Guyton, Eric Alexander, Pierre Woods, Tully Banta-Cain & Rob Ninkovich are all scrubs.
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They are one or two line injuries away from some serious trouble.
September 17th, 2009 at 11:15 am
Al Davis gets all of the credit for how much we improved, but no blame for the prevent defense that cost us the game. Unreal.
September 17th, 2009 at 11:18 am
Bobby Wade just signed with the Chiefs on Monday. I don’t think he’ll have a Seymour-type impact this weekend going up against Nnamdi & CJ …
September 17th, 2009 at 11:20 am
No Tony Gonzales this week either, now Nnamdi & CJ can focus on WR’s.I would love to see another big game from Huff.
September 17th, 2009 at 11:21 am
Nnamdi 21, maybe Sapp and Collinsworth saw us go to a prevent defense with a 3 point lead, and base their opinions on that. Most Raider fans agree with them. Only the kool aid drinkers don’t.
Also, Inside the NFL is on Showtime, now, not HBO. So while you criticize Sapp and Collinsworth for supposedly not having watched the game, you obviously didn’t watch the very show you’re criticizing. What an idiot!!!
September 17th, 2009 at 11:22 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
September 17th, 2009 at 11:07 am
Richard Seymour made an impact on our run defense in 2 days.
That’s something Warren Sapp couldn’t do in 4 years.
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So, in other words, not only did Al blow it in signing a player past his prime, but someone blew it BIG TIME in keeping him??
And that person would be….????????
Come on…you can say it…
September 17th, 2009 at 11:26 am
Nnamdi 21, our season is over, btw. It’s obvious Al Davis is still meddling, and we can’t win with him meddling. Monday night is proof of it. Cable, the coaching staff, and the players worked their butts off to the tune of a huge win, only for Al Davis to step in and ruin it. I’m glad there’s people like Warren Sapp and Chris Collinsworth to speak truth to power and not dance around the obvious. I’m actually considering picking up Showtime because of what they said. I call it good sports journalism. So, thanks for the heads up!
September 17th, 2009 at 11:34 am
Don’t sweat the haters, Nation.
If the Raider keep hitting people in the mouth, the talking heads will have to concede.
We outplayed SD.
We will play KC and Denver hard. I like playing the division in the first 3 weeks. Get things started quickly.
September 17th, 2009 at 11:35 am
LA to thebay, we can hit people in the mouth all we want to. If Al forces the coaches to use that prevent, we’ll still lose.
September 17th, 2009 at 11:38 am
RaiderRockStar, you look just as ridiculous at InsideTheNFL’s comments section as you do here, “warrensappsux”. You’re a broken record.
September 17th, 2009 at 11:39 am
Wow Hank Basket is starting for the colts opposite Wayne. Wished we could get him n cut watkins since Basket can also play special teams. J Walker was deactivated last game cause he can’t play special teams, if so I would rather have Amani Toomer, we need a veteran who can contribute n mentor these wrs. Personally, we should be able to run against KC our only problem will be special teams, who is returning punts?
September 17th, 2009 at 11:39 am
Hiram Eugene is a good “catcher.” I guess that’s a positive. You’re a good “catcher” too right MR??
September 17th, 2009 at 11:40 am
LOL. Bring Marino and Costas back…like they’re Raider fans. Rockstar, they’ll bring those guys back and they’ll point out the obvious about the Raiders, too, just as Sapp and Collinsworth did. Then you’ll be crying about them, “warrensappsux”.
September 17th, 2009 at 11:42 am
I still don’t understand why Al forces the coaches tostart DHB. I think both Murphy, DHB should play some snaps but not start the game. Dats why we need another wide out but since we don’t have any, I would start j walker n murphy. Btw, is Mcallister signing with us?
September 17th, 2009 at 11:47 am
Why isn’t DMAC returning punts? As far as I know he did it in college, I don’t trust bums like Hiram or Walker to do the job, they will fumble it. Sign Matt Jones he had a good yr last yt n might be clean now since he would be checked in the Nfl.
September 17th, 2009 at 11:50 am
I watched that show too and used to like Warren even after some of his crap but now I hate the guy! I remember when he first got here talking about how cool davis was in his white suit and how he was so happy, now even when the conversation is not about us he makes it about us. Did they not pay him or something? I wish he was still playing and for the Broncos so someone could knock the hell out of him!
September 17th, 2009 at 11:52 am
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/09/17/lions-chargers-get-extensions-but-the-jags-dont-bother-to-ask-for-one/
September 17th, 2009 at 11:57 am
MR 538
I agree. I don’t think Cable addresses it in the media unless he is going to try to fix it, though.
September 17th, 2009 at 11:57 am
Nnamdi21 Says:
September 17th, 2009 at 10:54 am
Pissed off watching HBO’s “Inside the NFL”
Sapp is just that. What a ****in’ maroon. These so called “sportscasters” don’t even do their home work. Too busy being “stars” and personalities.
Sapp claims based on week one you can write teams like Detroit and Oakland off. They’re season is over.
Colinsworth agrees oh Oakland, they’re a mess out there…
Richochet: Unless you have a completely rounded out team, you can’t win without a solid qb, PERIOD. TB had that in ‘02. Won in spite of Johnson, not because of him.
Announcers see Raiders starting qb looking the same, or worse than he did last year. 12 of 30 isn’t awe-inspiring. They’ve commented on Russell being out of shape, by his own admission, and wondered if it will affect his play. They see it did. To them, it’s “same-o, same-o”.
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These stupid ****s never even watched the game. They just watch the sanitized NFL version that LIES and slants the “highlights” to make it seem like Oakland didn’t beat the living **** out of SD on Monday night.
Richochet: Probably because THEY DIDN’T.
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That “simplistic 70s -80s man on man defense” destroyed San Diego’s offensive line and may have wrecked the first half of their season maybe even their year.
It was a triumph for Old Al showing old school “My guys are badder than your guys” mentality that made the Raiders great.
Richochet: LMFAO..could you be any cornier if you took a class? SD was 8-8 last year, hardly world beaters. Only to Raider fans does SD represent the mountain. They’re not. They were 14th in offense last year, and 25th IN DEFENSE…31st against the run.
And they still beat the Raiders..12th time in a row..in the Raiders house.
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It IS only football and bigger, faster, stronger DOES still matter.
Heck, Russell even dropped an old school 51 yd bomb on 4th and 15 for a go ahead TD in the 4th quarter.
Richochet: OMG..are you serious? lol…WHAT?? 51 yd bomb? WAS A BROKEN COVERAGE TD. Every single qb in college, in high school, and certainly in the NFL would make that wide open pass. Ran for 51 yds..wasn’t a 51 YARD BOMB, lol…geez.
Quit acting all surprised, or IMPRESSED THAT A QB MADE THAT WIDE OPEN PASS..means either you’re a pathetic homer, or you don’t follow football very much.
Save that weak “old school”. Broken coverage freeby’s are anything BUT old school…IT’S A FREEBY, NOTHING MORE.
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It doesn’t GET any more Raider than that, but no…Oaklands a joke. Oakland still sucks, they’re seasons over…
Richochet: completing a wide open freeby pass is “doesn’t get any more Raider than that”?
Really?
How about that 12 of 30?
Old school Raider as well? Or cause for concern?
Oh..I’m sorry..I’m raining on your MayDay parade.
Well, lol…you’ll get over it.
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Do these ****in idiots even hear what they’re saying? Its blatantly obvious they don’t KNOW what they’re saying.
Richochet: Dude, you just called a broken coverage completion OLD SCHOOL RAIDER FOOTBALL.
Stating “don’t KNOW what they’re saying’?
Pot, meet kettle.
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The AFC West is a shambles, SD lost 2 starting linemen one of them a 1st game rookie and got its Pro Bowl left tackle injured. They lost L.T. too…
Richochet: And you STILL wonder why it was close?
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Its too bad the media coddles these p***ies and rarely calls them on their inaccurate bull**** because the washed up losers on “Inside the NFL” don’t know, and apparently don’t care what they’re talking about.
Richochet: Little sensitive? Maybe they’re just stating the obvious, and it stings?
food for thought
September 17th, 2009 at 11:59 am
The Raiders r back don’t believe me watch the tape, solid defense, solid offense without a legit number 1 or 2 recievers. As soon as Schillens starts we willbe blowing up some teams.
September 17th, 2009 at 12:00 pm
DMAC is too important to the offense to return punts and risk injury. The only time I remember a regular contributor also returning punts and kicks was Tim Brown. And none of these guys are Tim Brown.
F it, let’s see Walker do SOMEthing.
September 17th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
Nnamdi21
The proof is in the pudding there buddy.
Why has Pitt been successful over the last 5 years
(because they draft great DL OL and LB and they do it well)
Why did Tenn have the best record in the NFL last season? See above
Why are the NYG so dominate even now SEE ABOVE
So if you want to sit there and suck on al’s salty nuts for drafting guys because they can run a sub 4.3 40 yard dash then continue to do so, but don’t try and act like I am stupid for pointing out the obvious.
September 17th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
raiderdre Says:
September 17th, 2009 at 11:50 am
I watched that show too and used to like Warren even after some of his crap but now I hate the guy! I remember when he first got here talking about how cool davis was in his white suit and how he was so happy, now even when the conversation is not about us he makes it about us. Did they not pay him or something? I wish he was still playing and for the Broncos so someone could knock the hell out of him!
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Key phrase was “WHEN HE FIRST GOT HERE”.
It’s like a first date. Wonderful person. Laughs at everything. Things couldn’t be better.
Next morning you wake up and it’s Cruella De Ville, and you wonder WTF just happened.
Sapp got the facade of the organization..but once the false front fell off, he saw what everyone else has been talking about.
Ok…contemplate this…WHY IS IT EVERY CURRENT RAIDER PLAYER, AND EVERY ‘JUST SIGNING WITH RAIDERS” PLAYER JUST LOOOOOOOVES THE RAIDERS? Loves Al? Loves “the image”..you know..all the politically correct things to say?
BUT ONCE THEY LEAVE THE RAIDERS? All of the negative truth comes out.
Not talking one or two players..talking almost each and every player that goes elsewhere..over and over and over and over.
Does that tell you anything?
don’t answer.
Just think about it.
DOES IT TELL YOU ANYTHING ABOUT THE ORGANIZATION WHEN YOUR TOP STARS, DOWN TO YOUR RELEASED BACKUPS STATE HOW SORRY IT IS TO PLAY FOR THE RAIDERS, AND HOW DYSFUNCTIONAL THE ORGANIZATION IS, FROM TOP TO BOTTOM?
September 17th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
Enough with the blown coverage nonsense.
Most TDs occur because of some kind of missed assignment or a good play by a WR in coverage or just an outstanding throw.
Hmmm, I seem to remember a TD throw in the 1st half to Louis Murphy. It was high enough to keep away from the defender and inside the 20 yard line. I don’t think that’s a bomb, do you guys?
And hey, if it wasn’t a TD per some ridiculous rule, it wasn’t called back because of the throw.
I know Al Davis made you cry at some point, Rich, but sometimes you’re just plain wrong.
Get over it.
8.5 x 11 posts don’t make you right. They make you an eyesore. And a loser.
Go post on your favorite team’s site.
Oh, wait…….who’s that again?
September 17th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
Afternoon all.
Haven’t read all 500+ comments,so forgive me if someone has already said it,but didn’t Branch return punts in college ?
September 17th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
666
Well, many of the guys you like on the Titans, Giants, and Steelers were signed as free agents. Santonio Holmes is pretty fast, if I remember right.
Al drafted his skill guys and signed for his heavies. Also drafted a good (eventually) LG and solid LT.
Pretty sure there is a long list of guys Al signed and drafted that were pretty talented.
Hey, remember when the Raiders were winning? Ya, Al was the owner then too.
But wait, it was all Jon Gruden, right? Wrong. Callahan lost with Gruden’s system, but got to the Super Bowl. Gruden won with Dungy’s system.
#1 offense (Gruden’s) vs. #1 defense (Dungy’s). Credit Gruden for being a good coach, getting Tampa over the hump, and for being a classy guy.
Credit Al indirectly or directly for any winning and losing season we ever had.
Al Davis=Raiders.
Unless you guys are fans of the 1960-1963 Raiders, you have Al to thank, indirectly or directly, for your favorite team, their 3 SBs and their 6 straight losing seasons.
September 17th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
Raders4eve
you forgot option 2. come up with a couple of hundred million dollars and buy team.
DMAC
i wouldn’t mind seeing Branch return punts at all. I can’t remember if he returned punts in college but i know he returned kicks. After he blasted that 300lb TE, we need to get him on the field whenever possible.
September 17th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
Does anyone even read ricochicks posts. See name scroll by.
September 17th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
Let’s have Branch return punts!
September 17th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
As long as Al is the owner, he will do it his way, ever since 1985, we been to playoff maybe 8 times but when we do we do it Al way for those who complain go support n another team n stop whining, the Raiders are back to excellence, we r couple players away from being a playoff team, Schillens n Murphy might be the answer so WHINERS either support Al way or support another team n come back after new owner is in charge.
September 17th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
I see the clocks aren’t fixed yet.
September 17th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
LA To TheBay
6 winning seasons in 20 years since Free Agency. Are the fans of the Raiders required to bend knee to Al Davis for that, too?
September 17th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
“DOES IT TELL YOU ANYTHING ABOUT THE ORGANIZATION WHEN YOUR TOP STARS, DOWN TO YOUR RELEASED BACKUPS STATE HOW SORRY IT IS TO PLAY FOR THE RAIDERS, AND HOW DYSFUNCTIONAL THE ORGANIZATION IS, FROM TOP TO BOTTOM?”
Sapp, Burgess, Walter, Moss?
Whatever, they can have their comments.
How ’bout Willie Brown? Freddy B? Snake was traded to Houston and is still a Raider. Jerry Rice comes and talks to the team, despite retiring a 9er. How ’bout Plunkett? He got passed up and was given an opportuity win 2 SBs.
Here’s a good one: Rich Gannon. Yeah, same guy who publicly called out Al Davis. You think he has the opportunity to play anywhere else for a SB? Have how many 300 yard passing games? Who drafted Tim Brown and brought in Rice? Zack Crockett? And came back and asked for a job after making his comments? Lol.
Your argument is tired.
The players you’re thinking of, Richochet, have the same problem you do: JADED.
Guys who played like pros? Taken CARE of.
Show us on the doll where Al spanked you.
September 17th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
Wasn’t Branch an excellent return guy at UCON?
September 17th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
Spot on DMAC.If I remember right that was one of the reasons why we drafted him.
September 17th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
Wow so it’s ok for Desean Jackson, Sproles, n many more stars to risk their main players to injury when they let them return punts, but we shouldn’t let DMAC return it cause we can’t afford him getting injured wow. We need pts by our special teams so if DMAC can score go for it.
September 17th, 2009 at 12:20 pm
Let’s give him a shot.
September 17th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
How ’bout Willie Brown? Freddy B?
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Al Davis puts food on their table, C’mon man.
September 17th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
# LA to TheBay Says:
September 17th, 2009 at 11:57 am
MR 538
I agree. I don’t think Cable addresses it in the media unless he is going to try to fix it, though.
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So, you think Cable’s going to take on al davis? He wont last through the season.
September 17th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
“KoolKell Says:
September 17th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
LA To TheBay
6 winning seasons in 20 years since Free Agency. Are the fans of the Raiders required to bend knee to Al Davis for that, too?”
Kell, you miss my point. You should be blaming Davis for this.
Again Al Davis=Raiders, Raiders=Al Davis.
Unless you’re a fan of the 1960-1963 Raiders, you became a fan because of Al Davis. Guys that Wolfe brought in? Good point. Who allowed it to happen? Oh, wait, it was Gruden. Who did Al hire? Oh, wait it’s the players. Who’s the head of the scouting department?
We agree about this, KK. You can blame Al Davis because Al Davis=Raiders.
If and when they win again. Guess what? You can credit Al Davis.
September 17th, 2009 at 12:24 pm
The denial in here is unbelievable. We’re going to lose to the Chiefs in the same fashion we lost to SD. With the prevent. Watch.
September 17th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 17th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
How ’bout Willie Brown? Freddy B?
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Al Davis puts food on their table, C’mon man.
Prove my point, why don’t you. Like I said, he takes care of those loyal to him.
Other than Gannon, who asked for a job, can you think of any obvious examples of GOOD players throwing Al under the bus?
I am defending Al, but I’m also calling him out. Would you admit that the team looked better Monday than they have in years? Credit Al. Mad at the prevent defense? Blame Al.
September 17th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
Damn, I thought I would never say this but…..Huff had a hella of game on Monday. If he keeps playing like this he should be rewarded his starting position again.
September 17th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
Heard Mcallister is out of shape still.
September 17th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
LA to TheBay
Do you go to the games?
I do, I am a paying customer therefore I can complain all I want!
To sit here and geek out on your computer all day doesn’t make you fan so don’t attack real paying customers.
September 17th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
DMAC…..wash your mouth out with soap and water !!
Huff…..’bout time.
September 17th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
Cult:
–noun
1. a particular system of religious worship, esp. with reference to its rites and ceremonies.
2. an instance of great veneration of a person, ideal, or thing, esp. as manifested by a body of admirers: the physical fitness cult.
3. the object of such devotion.
4. a group or sect bound together by veneration of the same thing, person, ideal, etc.
5. Sociology. a group having a sacred ideology and a set of rites centering around their sacred symbols.
6. a religion or sect considered to be false, unorthodox, or extremist, with members often living outside of conventional society under the direction of a charismatic leader.
7. the members of such a religion or sect.
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Cultists venerate the Cult leader. Different from Sports Fans, who venerate the sport, team, player.
September 17th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
He got rid of Moss ’cause the guy became a slouch and unprofessional.
He got rid of Burgess ’cause the guy became a slouch and unprofessional.
Gibril? Walter? Didn’t want to be here. F ‘em, you’re gone.
And they still don’t bash Al, just take little shots here and there.
Hall? The guy sucks. He saves himself by making the occasional INT. He gets cut.
Would you really give a glowing review to the guy that fired you? Come on, Kell, common sense.
He traded Snake. Traded him! Snake ever throw Al under the bus?
When Al is winning, no one complains. Al is too much for the NFL. Why did we see a TD robbed?
Lawsuits against the Bucs and the Panthers, against the refs, against the league.
Ditka says “the league is better when the Raiders are good.”
He’s right. Now tell that to the league.
Oh wait, that super cool NFC-AFC format that we know today as the NFL? Who could possibly responsible for this beloved NFL of ours? Not a senile old prick like Al Davis.
Oh wait……………
September 17th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
What happened to Chris Mcallister, I would rather have him as our free safety forget Huff n Hiram they r bums n Huff got lucky with one pick just like Stokely did for the da donkeys.
September 17th, 2009 at 12:33 pm
Al Davis = The Raider for better or worse is that breaking news to some slow posters in here or what?
That’s like saying the sun will shine today and later on tonight it will get dark but dont worry folks tomorrow morning guess what…..The sun will come up AGAIN!!!!
Why is this news to some of you?
Why do you point this out like your in Romper Room?
September 17th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
I work for some cults.
September 17th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
666
I went to the games in the Coliseum. The real one in SC, buddy. I have enough Raiders gear to call myself a paying customer.
Don’t tread on me and don’t tell me I’m geeking out all day. I’m at work and rarely comment any other time. Attacking real fans? I eat and sleep Raider football, fool. I bleed siver and black. I want my team, our team, to be good as well.
I don’t usually go on diatribes but punk ass fools like Richochet piss me off sometimes.
Now I’m back to being Joe Cool…..
September 17th, 2009 at 12:38 pm
new post you barack worshippers
September 17th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
JaMarcus is a fat loser and he has body odor.
September 17th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
We were voted the team of the decade, Al was and still is the man.
January 14th, 2010 at 5:24 pm
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