Cooper’s information bus tramples Huff, Routt
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, September 17th, 2009 at 9:45 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Warren Sapp isn’t the only blunt object giving unfiltered opinions on the Raiders over a cable network.
It turns out Comcast Sportsnet Bay Area’s source on the impending arrival of Chris McAlister to the Raiders is former safety and special teams captain Jarrod Cooper, identified in a video report as the “Comcast Sportnet NFL Insider.”
And Cooper, famous for being a Raiders locker room loose cannon, said he learned from mutual friends McAlister would be a Raider, probably within a week. The written report states McAlister “may play Sunday against Kansas City,” which seems farfetched bordering on impossible considering he didn’t go to training camp and was cut by the Baltimore Ravens in February.
Both Raiders coach Tom Cable and defensive coordinator John Marshall said Thursday they had no knowledge of McAlister coming aboard.
In the process of the report, former teammates Michael Huff and Stanford Routt were left with tire tracks after being thrown under Cooper’s runaway bus.
“Al Davis does not like Michael Huff . . . Michael Huff, they’re playing him out of position. To get rid of Michael Huff, Al Davis would not mind. That may be one of the moves that brings Chris McAlister here,” Cooper said.
It should be noted that Huff played deep nickel safety against San Diego, probably the closest thing to his natural position, and probably played the best game of his career against the Chargers with a fumble recovery and an interception.
As for Routt, Cooper said, “I love Stanford Routt, but you’re pretty much good for nothing when it comes to covering people.”
A link to the CSN Bay Area report is here.
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September 17th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
wow
September 17th, 2009 at 9:58 pm
Go Raiders
September 17th, 2009 at 10:02 pm
Chaos in the front office. Chaos at the team headquarters. Chaos on the practice field. Chaos in the locker room. Chaos on the sideline. Chaos even after you’ve left the organization. Chaos, chaos, chaos.
September 17th, 2009 at 10:06 pm
Man JHill came through and just dropped off a fat sack for me. That dude is the man!!!
September 17th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
And Cooper is right, Routt is good for nothing
September 17th, 2009 at 10:13 pm
Huff has played out of position his whole career. Maybe now he has found his position.
But if a team plays the same vanilla defense on every play, they will never win in the NFL.
September 17th, 2009 at 10:18 pm
I say we smash them in the mouth!..Take that broken arrow and stick up there peace pipe…Go Raiders
September 17th, 2009 at 10:19 pm
Raiders are going to win a snoozer, just like the last two years in KC.
Raiders 16-6. Fargas will get 15 carries for 70 yards, and fail in the red zone as we kick a bunch of FG’s.
September 17th, 2009 at 10:20 pm
Good evening Nation.
Let’s talk about the KC Game. What should we do against them. Smash mouth, or more passing like The Ravens?!
September 17th, 2009 at 10:20 pm
correction,
Micheal huff played Free safety through half of last year, his natural position, and still didnt do much. im glad he had a good game and i would love to see him finally come around because i always liked the dude. but honestly, id take mccalister over huff any day of the week at this point.
September 17th, 2009 at 10:26 pm
You better be studying hard O, you flaked out of the FFL. I expect straight A’s.
September 17th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
I want a Fat Sack!!!
Where is Jhill???
September 17th, 2009 at 10:33 pm
Nope, out of the financial services all together. Selling Medicare advantage plans these days.
Hurry up and get your Aztec brethen Chaz back on the field!!!
September 17th, 2009 at 10:33 pm
We need Chaz!! MR
If walker is not going to play, let’s put him on IR, or cut him!
Bowie & S Williams too!!!
September 17th, 2009 at 10:35 pm
Yes Sir! Vegas. lol
Are you good with Taxes?
September 17th, 2009 at 10:40 pm
I’m doing Homework now, and chatting ! lol
We are doing EBIT & Taxes, and Financial Ratios. That’s in Finance.
Also Sales Forecasting in IDS.
September 17th, 2009 at 10:53 pm
We need Al Davis to butt the F out, is what we need. His prevent lost this game for us. We’re 1-0 right now if not for him. Next time Cable should break Al Davis’s jaw. A light slap to the chin ought to do it.
September 17th, 2009 at 10:54 pm
If McCallister comes Routt is history, That halfhearted effort on the TD was ridiculous eventhough Nnamdi was beat he had the pick and just acted as if he didn’t care. Also that play in preseason on the TE Routt at time appears uninterested.
September 17th, 2009 at 10:57 pm
priesttj Says:
September 17th, 2009 at 5:52 pm
I was in here last night arguing with everyone about this prevent crap. People think when they see a zone late in a game it’s a prevent.
…………
Wrong again, liar. When people see 7 defenders drop back into loose coverage they think it’s a prevent… because it is! And that’s what we did.
September 17th, 2009 at 10:59 pm
And notice priest says that he was in here arguing with “everyone”. Look up that definition of cyber troll one more time for me, guys. priest’s here to argue with everyone, which makes him a troll.
September 17th, 2009 at 11:06 pm
This is funny …
Yeah, I heard through some friends?
I think he might cut Huff because he’s playing out of position?
Well at least he was right about Routt.
September 17th, 2009 at 11:10 pm
Vegas,
Sorry I missed your post bro!
Good luck with in the new sector. I think I’m going to the BYU game and NM. We will destroy NM!
September 17th, 2009 at 11:12 pm
Damn, guess the truth does hurt for Routt. I agree though. Replacing Routt with McAlister…why not? We have nothing to lose! Routt looked like a fat disillusioned fat kid swimming for a cupcake with extra frosting and rainbow sprinkles trying to swat that ball down that went for a Chargers TD. I like Routt too, but damn…that was no bueno.
But, we should really keep Huff for now. I’m not too thrilled about some of the coaching decisions and calls. I think they loose sight of what’s actually happening on the field in the moment and stick to some pregame plan or something. Doesn’t make sense to me-our “prevent defense” we DID resort to.
September 17th, 2009 at 11:18 pm
comcast, and ProFootballTalk were announcing it…Cable said he didnt know about it, McAllister was hoping to re-join Jets….also Rotoworld went with the same source
September 17th, 2009 at 11:20 pm
Go Aztecs!!!!
September 17th, 2009 at 11:55 pm
cooper and sapp are both giant tools. if they hated there time here so bad i blame them. they should have won more games and it would have been better for all of us. now all they can do is talk smack for anyone who will pay them to look into a camera. if you come here and lose, don’t whine to cover the fact that YOU LOST, you are a loser because you lost. im glad richard seymor is not such a tool.
September 18th, 2009 at 12:05 am
That was nice of you Jhill, hooking up Vegas like that.
September 18th, 2009 at 12:09 am
Al Davis disdain and incompetence for proper PR, leaves a void for people like Sapp or whoever feels like making a buck on the goings on in Al Davis’ haunted Castle.
September 18th, 2009 at 12:36 am
“One glaring stat,” Brown said, referring to Baltimore’s 59-percent conversion rate on third downs.
Chiefs coach Todd Haley said this week that the defense cannot get into similar situations Sunday against Oakland. The Raiders possess a talented quarterback, JaMarcus Russell, and three running backs that Haley has drilled his team on when he wasn’t discussing the Chiefs’ internal priorities. Oakland won’t make things easier, and Haley said Thursday that he’s not above calling for extreme measures if the pass rush cannot generate pressure on Russell or contain Oakland’s three rushers.
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/chiefs/story/1452771.html
September 18th, 2009 at 12:43 am
MR…
You’re a real piece of CRAP dude,
No one here likes you!!
All you do is put down the franchise..
Why are you even a Raider fan??
You are the most pathetic guy here!!
Remember our deal??
You said you would go root for you’re 49ers until Al Davis dies or retires…??
What happened??
I dont know who you root for, but it definitely is not the Raiders!!
September 18th, 2009 at 12:44 am
how about this one
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/22/34737317_b31c30c5bd.jpg
September 18th, 2009 at 12:44 am
Cs, Sapp and Cooper are just telling it like it is. You think Seymour will be different? Seymour didn’t even want to be here, and almost sat out!
September 18th, 2009 at 1:02 am
i think seymour will change his mind about not wanting to play for the raiders (if thats really true) when he starts getting 2+ sacks a game against our division rivals. The olines in our division are week and if seymour can stay healthy he can put up monster numbers.
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/22/34737317_b31c30c5bd.jpg
September 18th, 2009 at 1:30 am
Cs, Sapp and Cooper are just telling it like it is. You think Seymour will be different? Seymour didn’t even want to be here, and almost sat out
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Hang yourself right now… Do us all a favor.lol cooper ok. Sapp??? Obviously this mans upset about something with the raiders. I think it’s because al davis won’t release his rights so he can retire a buc… I don’t know what it is but he hates the raiders. Nothing to do with keeping it real. He;s bitter and so are you.
September 18th, 2009 at 3:26 am
Good Morning NATION!!!
September 18th, 2009 at 3:27 am
Jhill…
YOU ARE DA MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 18th, 2009 at 3:53 am
KoolKell Says:
September 18th, 2009 at 12:09 am
Al Davis disdain and incompetence for proper PR, leaves a void for people like Sapp or whoever feels like making a buck on the goings on in Al Davis’ haunted Castle.
________________
word!
September 18th, 2009 at 5:32 am
The Raiders were rushing with four men and dropping linebackers into coverage and simply played too soft, Marshall said, failing to make tackles and keep Chargers players from going out of bounds.
“Hell, it’s on me,” Marshall said. “They needed to have a better understanding of what the situation was.”
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what a load of bs! he’s toting the company line here and blaming the players. It wasn’t a tackling issue! the players were “too soft”? we dominated that game with smashmouth play until the final two minutes. If i’m one of those players that just got thrown under the bus (Howard, Morrison, Brown) i’m pretty upset right now … it was prevent defense, there is no other way to explain or defend it
Marshall takes the blame and even spreads it on the players for Al Davis’ defensive philosophy.
September 18th, 2009 at 5:34 am
Asomugha said the touchdown surrendered to Vincent Jackson came with a good fake and a back-shoulder fade, noting, “We thought Stan (Stanford Routt) was going to get a hand on it, I guess it was just outside of him.”
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LOL. Chris McAlister anyone?
September 18th, 2009 at 5:36 am
“Al Davis does not like Michael Huff . . . Michael Huff, they’re playing him out of position. To get rid of Michael Huff, Al Davis would not mind. That may be one of the moves that brings Chris McAlister here,” Cooper said.
As for Routt, Cooper said, “I love Stanford Routt, but you’re pretty much good for nothing when it comes to covering people.”
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Jarrod Cooper was a ST gunner and backup SS. suspended for roids. replaced by 4th rounder Tyvon Branch.
Al Davis wouldn’t keep a player he doesn’t like. See DeAngelo Hall & Gibril Wilson for example. big names & fat contracts and shown the door within a year of being signed. meanwhile Huff gets better & better each year since being drafted in 2006. just put him in position to make plays. not in the box!
was Cooper a good cover man? we all know Routt stinks, but Jarrod Cooper was a bigger liability in pass coverage. He was like an extra LB out there.
September 18th, 2009 at 5:37 am
I don’t his beef but Cooper is right on Routt sucks and just can’t cover anybody and talk about overpaying Huff the last time he made a great play was in the Rose Bowl.
GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 18th, 2009 at 5:38 am
work to do. see ya guys!
September 18th, 2009 at 5:42 am
should have kept Fabian =)
Marshall is right, Nnamdi is wrong… Marshall says it is on him that the players didnt get it… it is, and still are, because Nnamdi still dont get it…
September 18th, 2009 at 5:49 am
Man, Raiders players have no loyalty to their team once they retire at all. I wonder if they go after each other and carry bad feelings because they contributed to so many loosing seasons or is it because they just don’t like Al always running things. They like his million dollar pay checks for them in turn to play like bums on Sunday.
Oakland is similar to the Lions in the since than they have some of the most loyal fans in the world but the players will play like garbage and bad mouth each other like they are hall of fame material. Conflict is always going on with management and the fans suffer.
I will give them their props for effort Monday night but the bottom line is we have to start being expected and respected to win games!!!! – Just win baby!
September 18th, 2009 at 5:57 am
PFT pick on the Raiders vs. Chiefs:
Raiders (0-1) at Chiefs (0-1)
1 p.m. ET, CBS
This is the battle the plucky also-rans who almost pulled off Week 1 stunners, only to lose in the end.
The Raiders actually looked like a complete football team on Monday night against the Chargers, except they don’t have a quarterback. The Chiefs have one, but they aren’t sure if Matt Cassel will be ready to start after missing the opener. And they don’t have much else.
Oakland’s offensive line and running game is the best thing either team in this game has going. Even though the smart money is on Cassel playing and the Chiefs finding a way to win at Arrowhead, no one ever accused us of being smart. We’ve got Tom Cable fever.
Pick: Raiders 24, Chiefs 21
September 18th, 2009 at 6:04 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Unless the coaches are putting up smoke screens, I would have to go with their word. Let’s go Raiders!!! Stomp KC in their house!!!
Happy Friday btw…
September 18th, 2009 at 6:05 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S, HWNDR,EXLA,NOMOREFARGAS. WHEN YOU ARE DOWN , THEY KICK YOU, WHEN YOUR ON TOP,THEY KISS YOUR….
September 18th, 2009 at 6:09 am
SKINNY TALL WHITE GUY,U MEAN ANDREW WALTER..
September 18th, 2009 at 6:12 am
*******You all need to stop the Russel hating*******
The Raiders have a QB, I have to admit he was cold as ice water in the end of the 3rd qtr and begining of the 4th but don’t take away the good thing that he did.
We need are younger WRs to run better routes and catch the ball. DHB was decoying defenders n catches. Murphy dropped a pass in the endzone(refs call), then he tipped another in the air, which adefenser intercepted. It would also help if McFadden holds on to the football this week on a big drive. Before he finds himself running the ball like Tiki Barber.
He was the lead blocker on a reverse got a first down on a QB sneak and got hurt came back in the game throwing a pass to JLH was on the money he just got popped and gave up the ball, that would have been a first down.
We need to cover better SD was working with half the field in the 4th quarter and our LBs played way to far back and way to soft.
You can’t blame Russel for everything that went wrong Monday night. Remember he had a lot to do with the points on the score board.
To be honest if Russel was a skinny tall white guy in the pocket with that big arm throwing the ball around most of you out there would be embracing him more. You would be crediting him left and right for his development. His game is not pretty but he did out play a number of QBs Monday night that played on Tuesday.
Cutler cut us up last year on Monday night and look at his game last Sunday.I guess he played better than Russel as well?
September 18th, 2009 at 6:14 am
How many teams around the league started two rookie WRs at the same time on a Monday night game at that?
Now when Chaz getws back and Walker decides to have a brain to go with his speed again then we can really see what Russel ccan do. He has no problem finding Miller each game.
September 18th, 2009 at 6:19 am
To add to that point CJ, once the rookies get on time with Russ, our offense will be explosive. Murphy is starting to find his niche. DHB got to get going, and whenever Walker gets cleared to play and stay healthy, we do need him…With everyone out, we will have too much to cover. Russell, just has to get it there…
September 18th, 2009 at 6:22 am
Watch Adam Schector choke on his own spit. LMFAO
http://www.profootballcentral.com/
September 18th, 2009 at 6:22 am
I agree NMF…
With our defense playing well into the 3rd, we had too many 3 and outs!!!
September 18th, 2009 at 6:28 am
Of course all we want is a W any way but how about sparing us a close game are hearts can’t take it lets blow them right outta the water.
GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 18th, 2009 at 6:28 am
SOUND’S GOOD NOMOREFARGAS,JUMP ON THEM FROM THE START AND DO NOT LET UP. THE TEAM NEED’S TO SHOW EVERYONE THEY HAVE A KILLER INSTINCT,MOSTLY THEM SELF’S I THINK.
September 18th, 2009 at 6:33 am
Bring Andrew Walter back to start!!!!
September 18th, 2009 at 6:36 am
Kansas City cannot run the ball…
Kansas City cannot stop the run…
so… what conclusions can we draw from this???
anyone… anyone… bueller???
September 18th, 2009 at 6:44 am
Pete’s Magical NFL Spreadsheet says:
Oakland
1st Downs 26
Total Plays 75
Total Yards 434
Passing 261
Rushing 173
Kansas City
1st Downs 15
Total Plays 65
Total Yards 253
Passing 200
Rushing 53
Final Score
Oakland 31
Kansas City 13
September 18th, 2009 at 6:46 am
Bringing in McAllister won’t do any good, the man has bad knees. That’s why he wants to play safety. Id say leave the damaged goods on the shelf, if you wanted to replace Routt they should have kept manning, or that other young guy that we had from the cowboys,. No way we replace huff, it looks like the game is starting to come to him, he made great plays in preseason, and he’s making the plays that he wasn’t before this season so let the man have his year…. huff is better than Eugene. I don’t know why we still have that bum
September 18th, 2009 at 6:48 am
take care Y’all, im off to drink some beers in the sun with my mates…
September 18th, 2009 at 6:59 am
Excuse my rudeness. Good morning Nation!!! Things are looking good for us against KC we are gonna run all over them. Mcfadden would have had over 300 yards rushing had he not gotten injured last year. I can’t wait to see him and Bush
September 18th, 2009 at 7:03 am
CJ,Hwnrdr
I agree with you.
The best way to silence the JR critics is with passer rating data.
Eli Manning was considered a bust by many UNINFORMED fans until he won a superbowl.
See the stats below:
Passer ratings:
Career Eli 76.3 JR 72.2
Rookie Eli 55.4 JR 55.9
Second Eli 75.9 JR 77.1
Third Eli 77.0
Fourth Eli 73.9 win SB
Fifth Eli 86.4
Eli had a better team to work with than what JR has had thus far.
Simple facts are that JR is progressing well. He is a second or third year QB depending on your perspective.
It is ignorant to challenge JR’s development with any negative thing he may do.
September 18th, 2009 at 7:15 am
Charlie, very compelling arguement and I agree wholeheartedly
September 18th, 2009 at 7:19 am
Charlie,
Your stats are bogus. Eli Manning attempted over 200 more passes in his second year than Russell. The Giants also didnt run a dumbed down “safe” offense like the Raiders did for Russell. You can manipulate stats all you want to try and make your point. Fact is the kid does too many things wrong to ever be a good NFL QB.
September 18th, 2009 at 7:28 am
Good point Charlie!
I will not feel better about the SD game until we beat up KC.
Hanging out with we “Woulda, shoulda, and coulda” is getting very old. : )
September 18th, 2009 at 7:53 am
Dude he was true when he said that Eli has had a better supporting cast than russell, our oline was obysmal, eli had better line, recievers, run game and defense
September 18th, 2009 at 7:53 am
DBW,
Dont you ever get tired of making excuses for the guy?
How long you gonna do that for? 4 years? 5?
September 18th, 2009 at 8:01 am
Cj what’s up brutha?! We should crush KC this week, no excuses, they don’t have the raider killer anymore in tony G. Im very happy and out that
September 18th, 2009 at 8:02 am
Dude
JR also does alot of things well FOR A SECOND YEAR QB!
The stats above show a good balance of his work to date. That is indisputable and it is unbiased.
You can PREDICT whatever you want. It is your opinion.
I think if you take into account, coaching changes, supporting cast etc, thinking JR is a bust as of today is quite premature and a complete waste of time.
Would you rather we drafted Quinn?
September 18th, 2009 at 8:02 am
WHO THE F CARES ABOUT BRADY QUINN?? The stats show nothing. The Raiders do not run an NFL offense. They run a dumbed down, safe passing game full of check downs and passes to the TE. Any fool can see that. Im not calling him a bust, yet, but he is not good right now and people that say he is and point to the bogus stat line are just wishful thinkers. His footwork is garbage. He stares at WRs and relys on his arm too much. He aint a bust yet, but he sure looks headed that way. Bottom line_ A decent NFL Qb wins that game on Monday.
September 18th, 2009 at 8:08 am
Nah im not tired because I know that it takes time for a qb to get acclomated to the game, and JR faced a situation that none of the other rookie qbs that many people compare him to have, yet, people such as ur self will be quick to mismiss the coaching changes changes in philosophy and the makeshift oline we had. Flacco, ryan and others haven’t gotten that so…. considering the variables I am patient to let the young man develop
September 18th, 2009 at 8:14 am
What’s up, Nation?
I’m sure the AM crew would love to throw Cooper under a bus. I mean under the bus.
I’m not going to “hate” on Russell, but I will say he needs to make a big improvement going into Sunday and overall in general.
He’s good at fitting the ball in tight spaces up the middle. It seems when he puts it in the hands of a receiver he trusts, the ball is right on the money.
He exploited some poor coverage a few times, specifically his two (2) TD throws. The first was a bullet right down the seam where only his guy could get it one on one with a safety (the CB stayed home).
I’m very impressed with his arm.
What I’m not impressed with is his footwork and his dropback and release. It just takes too long.
He had a few decent sideline throws dropped, but he needs to be more consistent on out routes and and throws in the flats. A big problem is his size. He needs to take some off of his throws, give em some touch, or get the ball lower, because on those short routes the ball’s just coming out too high.
Chaz will remedy the problem a bit because hes big, tall, and from what I hear out of camp, making great adjustments while the ball is in the air.
Now, that pass to Higgins left Johnnie Lee hung out to dry. The saftey was reading Russells eye’s the whole way. The pass was very accurate, but JLH didn’t see or I think feel the safety coming over and couldn’t make the tough catch.
Problem on that play was DHB was jammed real hard on the right side and once disengaged, looked off balance and eventually slipped as the play was ending.
September 18th, 2009 at 8:24 am
Darren McFadden fumble.
TD call at the half.
Defense gives up TWO 4TH QTR TD DRIVES.
September 18th, 2009 at 8:24 am
Russell does some very good things.
His mechanics are very poor, and he is certainly not polished, but he can do things other QBs can’t.
Obviously the gun, but he’s got a big body and if he learns to use it right, he can make his size an asset as opposed to an Achiles (sp?) Heel. I know you guys saw that block he made on the reverse. Outstanding block.
He’s also pretty gutsy. He’s got a lot of faith in that arm and again, fits the ball into tight places up the middle.
But when he misses, he misses big. I think he’s afraid to fit it in tight down the field. He’s not manipulating the safeties. It also may be due to young receivers running poor routes. If you look at the second (2nd) Murphy TD, he runs a real clean route. The CB takes the sideline away, but Murphy has already cut back and saftey doesn’t pick it up, he’s playing shallow on the underneath route.
Russel saw this early and got the ball to Murphy in plenty of time. That’s when he’s his best is on a quick, confident decision and a bullet.
But he won’t get blown coverage on every deep pass and needs to start getting the secondary looking the other way.
Until he can read the whole field and move guys around with his eyes, this will be a run-first team, and not “his team,” so to speak.
September 18th, 2009 at 8:27 am
Dude Says:
September 18th, 2009 at 8:02 am
WHO THE F CARES ABOUT BRADY QUINN?? The stats show nothing. The Raiders do not run an NFL offense. They run a dumbed down, safe passing game full of check downs and passes to the TE. Any fool can see that.
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This is an absolutely ridiculous statement even for dud’s lowly standards. It takes time for QB’s and receivers to develop timing. Jam had that with Shilens and Shilens is hurt. He has it with Zack. He now has 2 receivers who have 2 more combined NFL starts at receiver than I do. These aren’t excuses, these are facts. What you should be looking for is to see if this guy is progressing. In his last three games, he was losing the game and when he left the field, he had the lead. THAT, is progress.
September 18th, 2009 at 8:27 am
My prediction hasnt changed,..KC wins it easily, 34-17
September 18th, 2009 at 8:28 am
Dude
What second year QB doesn’t make those mistakes?
FLACCO WAS ON A TEAM THAT RAN THE BALL MORE THAN ANYONE IN THE NFL. Oakland is no different in trying to protect a young QB.
We are rebuilding and that means we have young players who make mistakes.
We are not going to the playoffs this year.
8-8 will be a great season.
This team wasted 2003 to 2006. Simple as that. You and I can not fix that.
We have a plan that started with getting a solid QB in 2007. That was our biggest need at the time. The only other guy that was even on the radar at that time was Quinn.
Since then we have drafted well and we are building a support system for JR.
Our problems after 2006 involved more than just Aaron Brooks at QB and it will take about four to five drafts to fix it.
September 18th, 2009 at 8:28 am
JR played a bad game against the Dischargers, but he didn’t have a lit of help from the WRs. 2 Rookie WRs starting!!!!!!
JR will be fine if we keep his coaches around!
Players who played Great:
Seymour & the entire D line
Nnamdi
CJ
Huff
DMC & Bush
Miller
The Oline except Green
Branch
Players who need improvement:
The WRs!
JR
The LBs played good, but not Great.
September 18th, 2009 at 8:30 am
quin would be doing awesome if here. damn we should have drafted him.
September 18th, 2009 at 8:30 am
Murphy played Great for a rookie!! The only bad play was the short slant when he couldn’t get open!
September 18th, 2009 at 8:30 am
I also predict after russells horrible game in KC,..Al will have Cable announce Gradkowski starts denver game.
September 18th, 2009 at 8:33 am
LA to bay,…I assume you will be the last one supporting russell,..priest and kell not included,..they will always support him,..well you know.
September 18th, 2009 at 8:33 am
dirty,..you all stand to honor me because I go to every home game?..gee thanks bro…not that big a deal.
September 18th, 2009 at 8:37 am
Uh oh the jackass(norco) is in here everyone stand up
September 18th, 2009 at 8:37 am
Bob, not neccecarily.
I’m giving my best assessment of where our franchise QB is at. I like Russell and hope he reaches his potential, but would I rather have Drew Brees? Come on, man.
The fact is, Al committed a lot of money to JR and made him the franchise. We’re not going to see another QB play this year unless Russell is hurt.
Garcia is gone because he realized this early in camp and asked for his release prior to the season.
September 18th, 2009 at 8:39 am
# 74, He is not good at Manipulating Ss!!
That’s very true!! He gives up some plays by looking & Locking on at the target!!
September 18th, 2009 at 8:42 am
dirty,..you didnt need to put in the (norco),..they knew who you ment when you said jackass.
September 18th, 2009 at 8:42 am
Lol somehow I knew you’d say that
September 18th, 2009 at 8:46 am
Everyone is talking about Huff I see it anotehr way!
Mitchell is not going to be ready this year and that is why they are bringing in McAlister. Mitchell’s injury must be worse than they are letting on.
Just my opinion.
September 18th, 2009 at 8:48 am
mitchell sucks anyway.
September 18th, 2009 at 8:52 am
A little hard to tell Bob since we haven’t actually seen him play yet?
September 18th, 2009 at 8:59 am
I would say that McCallister would come in to play nickel. They’ve already brought in several guys to camp to push Routt. Ricky Manning Jr. is a vet. Not really a system fit, but they’re looking to replace Routt is my guess.
Aso said that he thought Routt had an angle on that Jackson TD pass and didn’t make an athletic play at all.
I think Eugene had a good game, so I don’t see him being replaced, but if anyone’s PT is being taken away at S, it would him. Branch can improve in coverage (he was a step late on that 25 yarder to the goal line in the 4th Q), but played a great game. Huff, as mentioned, played maybe his best game.
September 18th, 2009 at 8:59 am
Too bad Cable hasn’t been arrested yet….let’s get this thing moving already! The sooner he is arrested, the sooner we can be rid of him.
September 18th, 2009 at 9:02 am
Mitchell played last week did I miss something? Did he get injured again?
September 18th, 2009 at 9:05 am
Wow Dakota, what’s up with the Cable hatin?
September 18th, 2009 at 9:05 am
DBW.
No, Mitchell played special teams and had a decent hit on Sproles on KR. He may have played in a few defensive looks, but I didn’t see any plays that stood out.
September 18th, 2009 at 9:12 am
I suppose McCallister could be brought in for depth at SS, but the weakness in the secondary is nickel.
I don’t know about McCallister either. He’s what, 32? Has bad knees, drinks and smokes too much and from what I’ve heard, he’s a locker room cancer. I thought we were trying to get rid of punks like that this offseason.
Certainly not sold on Routt, but not sold on McC either.
September 18th, 2009 at 9:14 am
Well if he is not injured maybe Bob is right and he sucked so bad they realized they had to bring in McAlister.
All I was trying to say was that it might not be because of Huff’s play it may be because of Mitchell.
Is Mitchell on Scholarship yet?
September 18th, 2009 at 9:16 am
Nnamdi21
Good point. It may be nothing more than pushing Routt or McCallister running his mouth, but I wouldn’t be surprised at all if McCallister is our nickel for Denver.
September 18th, 2009 at 9:17 am
He’s right about Routt UNLESS Routt’s on the edge. When He’s got the side line as his friend, Routt’s much better.
Unfortunately, Routt had slacked last year after DeAngelo was brought aboard.
No one, even Routt saw the debacle Hall would be and wasn’t ready when a much richer Hall unceremoniously departed.
No one saw Chris Johnson emerging as one of the best CBs in the League either so a down and out Routt was forced to work for his slot at Nickle, missing his shot at the outside.
Too bad. If Routt decided to focus and put in the max effort, he could be a very good football player and just what the Raiders need. Serious depth at their most crucial position.
RNS thinks Routt may be on the bubble, but I don’t think so.It should signal a wake up call for Routt or show whether he even gives a dam any more.
September 18th, 2009 at 9:23 am
Silver-n-Black666 Says:
September 18th, 2009 at 9:14 am
Well if he is not injured maybe Bob is right and he sucked so bad they realized they had to bring in McAlister.
All I was trying to say was that it might not be because of Huff’s play it may be because of Mitchell.
Is Mitchell on Scholarship yet?
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Don’t be absurd.
Mithchell missed camp time because of insipid College rules and a tweaked hammy.
He came from the University of Miami Ohio. Not exactly an NFL ready scheme or compettition.
Combine with missed time and that level of competition in college I would be stunned if Mitchell was NFL ready right now or even this year.
He does however fit what Oakland wants to and did do Monday night.
Crush teams with simplistic, well executed football by superior athletes. Bigger, faster, stronger more violent.
If Mitchell can excel and execute in such a scheme, his physical gifts could make him worth the high pick. In another more typical scheme, the high pick wouldn’t make as much sense.
As it is, the 2nd round shot is a risk, but not as much as people would think.
September 18th, 2009 at 9:25 am
Mitchell will take some heads off in this league. Have some patience, guys. He’s coming off an injury and only got to play special teams, where he had a big hit.
September 18th, 2009 at 9:26 am
OK let me rephrase it again since everyone in here is so into taking everything so literally.
It may not be Huff’s fault they are bringing in McAlister it may be someone else in the secondary that is injured or not excelling.
I was just using Mitchell as an example get off my nuts about it, dont you have anything else to do?
September 18th, 2009 at 9:31 am
Nnamdi here is some advice:
You look like Richochet when you cut and paste.
Just say Post #103 SnB666
Its much easier to read that way and you dont look like a inbreed monkey.
September 18th, 2009 at 9:34 am
“It may not be Huff’s fault they are bringing in McAlister it may be someone else in the secondary that is injured or not excelling.”
I agree with you, and I think it’s Routt.
Our S’s played as well as i’ve seen them play.
And in a tough scheme. Man free is not easy to pull off for 80% of a 60 min game. Problem with that game is that the coverage was so loose on the last 2 drives, and specifically on that sproles pass, the LB slipped. Not sure if it was 52 or 53, but I think it was Kirk.
September 18th, 2009 at 9:34 am
97. I’m not sold on McAlister coming at all. You made some valid points.
My game was “mysteriously” erased to, I suspect make room for the 78th year show finally of Guiding Light, but I think its available on NFL.com for an $8 fee.
If you don’t have it or are so inclined, do checkl out the game. The defensive highlights are worth every penny.
The media down plays it and I can’t find the highlights anywhere of how dominat and bad azz this defense looked against SD.
Chris Johnson was phenomenal reading and destroying outlet passes. Tyvon Branch looked like the answer we’ve been searching for all these years at Safety. (Granted he was helped by better gap control and Seymour setting the edge) but his physical prowess and speed combined with text book tackles made my heart jump.
Check out the game and the plays our media won’t show you.
September 18th, 2009 at 9:40 am
Good advice, 21.
If you go to NFL.com and order the game rewind for 35.00 bucks I think, they give an offer to get game pass for 5.00. Great deal, IMO. It’s the straight up network broadcast, so you can’t see the secondary well, but it’s great.
During the offseason, I must have watched our more telling games 3 times each. The Tampa game, the Houston game, NE, Miami, 2nd KC, NO and ATL, both Denver games.
I reccommend you watch the 1st Denver game and then the second to see the quantum leap in our secondary with CJ in there playing man.
Just like on Monday, the QB will go after him because of who plays on the opposite side.
There will be a ton of balls thrown his way and I think he wouldn’t have it any other way. He really has an ability to shadow well and sniff out screen passes.
September 18th, 2009 at 9:45 am
Silver-n-Black666 Says:
September 18th, 2009 at 9:31 am
Nnamdi here is some advice:
You look like Richochet when you cut and paste.
Just say Post #103 SnB666
Its much easier to read that way and you dont look like a inbreed monkey.
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No no, I wanted to show the folly of what you’d written.
Nice how you deflected and focused on my formatting rather then the undeniable truths I schooled you on about Mitchell.
Insult all you like, you got leveled and you know.
So does every one else.
September 18th, 2009 at 9:54 am
I think our defense matches up better with KC. A guy like Sproles is real dynamic. He got us in two phases of the game, special teams, and in the passing game.
Johnson is more of a north-south runner and not as elusive in the passing game. Plus, I would expect to see adjustments made there, anyway. I just wish they were made in the second half or at lest the end of the 4th quarter on Monday.
September 18th, 2009 at 9:58 am
KC = must win game
If we lose this game, we might go 3-13 this year…
We need a 3-1 start just to hope for a chance at 8-8 and a run at the division.
September 18th, 2009 at 9:59 am
Kansas City favored by 3
September 18th, 2009 at 10:00 am
You leveled me because I was speculating on Mitchell being injured or not? (He did miss a lot of camp with hammy)
WOW you are good!!!
A pro I would say at leveling people!!!
Your just the typical myopic Al Davis sack licker that got all defensive because I was talking about Mitchell.
Calm down pour yourself anotehr glass of kool – aid then stop cutting and pasting like Richochet.
It’s annoying no matter how RIGHT you are or how self righteous you are, its still annoying!!
September 18th, 2009 at 10:08 am
Silver-n-Black666 Says:
September 18th, 2009 at 10:00 am
You leveled me because I was speculating on Mitchell being injured or not? (He did miss a lot of camp with hammy)
WOW you are good!!!
A pro I would say at leveling people!!!
Your just the typical myopic Al Davis sack licker that got all defensive because I was talking about Mitchell.
Calm down pour yourself anotehr glass of kool – aid then stop cutting and pasting like Richochet.
It’s annoying no matter how RIGHT you are or how self righteous you are, its still annoying!!
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Sounds and fury little lady.
Again, you mentioned nothing of susbtance or value to validate or even make a reasonable argument.
You stated and I quote:
“Is Mitchell on Scholarship yet?”
A scholarship like say Sam Williams or Alvis Whitted might imply you felt Mitchell is that caliber player because he isn’t starting immediately.
Frankly, I’m bored with your non arguments.
end transmission:
September 18th, 2009 at 10:08 am
LEVELED
September 18th, 2009 at 10:22 am
Is that what you are getting your panties in a bunch about.
The Scholarship comment?
Wow you are a sensitive little guy.
I will give you some substance for your little imaginary bulldozer so you can get all excited thinking you can level people in a Blog. (Richochet style)
You admit there is such thing as Scholarship yet you crucify me for saying that Mitchell could end up there one day. Come on man you cant have it both ways unless your bi.
No one knows what caliber of player is Mitchell is yet so you are speculating just like me.
September 18th, 2009 at 10:23 am
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
where is everyone?
September 18th, 2009 at 10:26 am
Herman Edwards:
“There were a lot of bright spots for the Raiders. The gap has closed, but Oakland has to find a way to finish games. JaMarcus Russell can’t play like Philip Rivers. He needs to be more consistent. He’s in his third year now. You have to make plays to stay in this league.
Apparently Richard Seymour still likes football. Obviously he is going from polar opposites from New England to the Raiders. But if he continues to play that way, he’ll help those guys.”
September 18th, 2009 at 10:27 am
i thikn everyone worn out…
JR sucks… JR doesn’t suck…
receivers sucked… receivers didn’t suck…
davis coaches the secondary… davis doesn’t say anything…
marshall should be fired… cable should be fired…
it’s exhausting… clearly someone called for a time out…
September 18th, 2009 at 10:29 am
Herman Edwards: Hello… You plaaaay to win the games .
September 18th, 2009 at 10:30 am
oh, man… who gives a rip what hermy edwards says…
90% of the commentators did not watch the game…
they listened to a 5 minute recap from someone else…
who may also have gotten the same recap from someone else…
who… maybe… maybe watched the game…
it’s why we’re 3 point dogs to the chefs…
there’s a good bet to make… on the raiders…
September 18th, 2009 at 10:30 am
I guarantee you Mitchell is goign to tag somebody real hard again this week. I wouldnt be surprised at all to see him tag Johnson a good one. You watch. He’s Al’s boy and Al is dying to sholve it up people’s rear ends. Mitchell (may or may not deserve it) but he is on Al’s scholarship.
September 18th, 2009 at 10:32 am
Raider Reserrection?
http://www.raidernationstation.com/exclusives
For real? I’m going to pay NFL .com to watch that game again.
My DVR “mysteriously” erased the game. Fortunaltey that left enough room for the final season of “Guiding Light” grrr…
I recall some violent hits and excellent tackling by Chris Johnson and Tyvon Branch…bad azz…
September 18th, 2009 at 10:33 am
Lol!!! “You play to win the game!!!!”
September 18th, 2009 at 10:33 am
morning all.
September 18th, 2009 at 10:37 am
Those of you blaming Russell for the loss are in essence supporting the prevent defense at the end of the game, which does make you borderline retarded. Don’t know if you knew that.
September 18th, 2009 at 10:38 am
I’m using one finger to type.How can that be too fast ?
September 18th, 2009 at 10:38 am
………….
Those of you blaming Russell for the loss are in essence supporting the prevent defense at the end of the game, which does make you borderline retarded. Don’t know if you knew that.
September 18th, 2009 at 10:39 am
115. “You admit there is such thing as Scholarship yet you crucify me for saying that Mitchell could end up there one day.”
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Yes.
The fact you alluded to a complete unknown like Mitchell ending up on Scholarship with out having played an entire game as I pointed out, was stupidity.
Again, for these reasons…
“Mithchell missed camp time because of insipid College rules and a tweaked hammy.
He came from the University of Miami Ohio. Not exactly an NFL ready scheme or competition.
Combine with missed time and that level of competition in college I would be stunned if Mitchell was NFL ready right now or even this year.
He does however fit what Oakland wants to and did do Monday night.
Crush teams with simplistic, well executed football by superior athletes. Bigger, faster, stronger, more violent play.
If Mitchell can excel and execute in such a scheme, his physical gifts could make him worth the high pick. In another more typical scheme, the high pick wouldn’t make as much sense.
As it is, the 2nd round shot is a risk, but not as much as people would think.”
I SEE ZERO REASON TO SUGGEST MITCHELL IS HEADED ANYWHERE NEAR AN AL DAIVS SCHOLARSHIP.
You can’t provide a counter to anything I’ve said so you sit ther in your own stink and hurl insults like a little bish.
Get a clue. Use that internet for something other than searching for Twinks near you .com
September 18th, 2009 at 10:41 am
Anyone with a vaild opinion based on facts and reason on here right now?
Oh well…
Konnichiwa Bishes!~
September 18th, 2009 at 10:42 am
Post #122 Alisgod
If you say Mitchell is on Scholarship you will get leveled by Nnamdi21’s imaginary bulldozer.
I said “Is Mitchell on Scholarship yet”
Meaning he may or may not be now, but probably will be in the future.
I was only speculating you are stating it as a fact I can’t imagine what kind of “LEVELED” you will get.
People watch out here comes a little boy and his toy bulldozer!!
September 18th, 2009 at 10:44 am
Pete,
Ya it’s a big problem. These guys aren’t even watching the games, they’re watching highlight reels.
They could ask Young, Mike and Mike, and those three will tell them that Oakland dominated the LOS and could have won the game by double digits.
Now they need to keep up that same intensity going into KC. I think Cassell needs to be on his @$$ the whole game (all of it, not just the first 3 1/2 quarters).
You get pressure on the QB, even the good ones don’t look so good with no time.
September 18th, 2009 at 10:46 am
130. No fun.
Your to stupid to even know your insipid commnet got you schooled. You don’t even know your wrong instead your hung up like a Pavlovian dog on a key word.
You cant defend you moronic baseless comment so you fixate, deflect and call names.
The you try to incite other people to dislike me for telling / showing and explaining repeatedly in great detail WHY your comment was incorrect, ridiculous and stupid.
Yet your not even smart enough to acknowledge the fact.
Yawn…
September 18th, 2009 at 10:46 am
133. quit fishing for insults
September 18th, 2009 at 10:46 am
…….
Those of you blaming Russell for the loss are in essence supporting the prevent defense at the end of the game, which does make you borderline retarded. Don’t know if you knew that.
September 18th, 2009 at 10:47 am
Slow news day…so here we go:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d56y8iOAFes&feature=related
September 18th, 2009 at 10:47 am
Nnamdi, check the bit torrents before you pay NFL.com. Then again, you would have to download it. But anything’s better than forking money over to NFL.com
September 18th, 2009 at 10:54 am
How much had Joe had to drink ?
September 18th, 2009 at 10:58 am
Oh yeah, if Mitchell never starts at S, he will still be on the team for years and years…no doubt he is a potential scholarship playa!
September 18th, 2009 at 11:01 am
MR
I thought Russell had an outstanding couple of TD passes and put us in position to win the game.
He also left some points on the field, and I think that’s what most here are concerned about here.
I don’t think anyone likes the prevent. There’s nothing wrong with zone or zone blitz, but the LBs just let Sproles take whatever he wanted.
You look at the play that set up the Sproles TD, is it scheme or a LB slipping, or both?
Who knows what happens if the LB doesn’t slip and they hold him to 7 yards. Who knows what happens if they go with a 4 man rush, man-to-man and Sproles burns a LB.
It was a close game. We played it real tight and I just wish we either had a) 4 more points or b) connected on a few more passes or had a few great running plays to put us in position to score more points.
The loss can’t be blamed squarely on the offense, defense, special teams, or the coaches. It takes an entire team to win or lose.
September 18th, 2009 at 11:02 am
I SEE ZERO REASON TO SUGGEST MITCHELL IS HEADED ANYWHERE NEAR AN AL DAIVS SCHOLARSHIP.
Al hand picked this guy and even traded with NE (Ron Brace) to get him. Remember AL thought Chicago was going to take him?
You still dont see a slight possibility?
AlisGod sees it.
I know you have a big ego but just admit you have no control over who Al puts on Scholarship and who he doesn’t.
“If Mitchell can excel and execute” Then he wont have to be on Scholarship if this happens, will he?
Man you are a simpleton trying desperately to act intelligent.
September 18th, 2009 at 11:07 am
Talking of drink,I see a bottle with my name on it.Have a great weekend everyone.
September 18th, 2009 at 11:35 am
“WHO THE F CARES ABOUT BRADY QUINN?? The stats show nothing. The Raiders do not run an NFL offense. They run a dumbed down, safe passing game full of check downs and passes to the TE. Any fool can see that. Im not calling him a bust, yet, but he is not good right now and people that say he is and point to the bogus stat line are just wishful thinkers. His footwork is garbage. He stares at WRs and relys on his arm too much. He aint a bust yet, but he sure looks headed that way. Bottom line_ A decent NFL Qb wins that game on Monday.”
What? Dumbed down? Check downs are in EVERY OFFENSE bro. Peyton Manning has them, Tom Brady has them…you name it, it’s called an outlet so you don’t do something too risky with the ball! If he stared down receivers (which he does on occasion) he would have never made the 4th & 17 play- that was a double move by Murphy coupled with Russell looking off safety = Touchdown. He is actually better than a lot of folks give him credit for. The things he does well, commentators don’t say anything about- they love to bag on the guy just like some folks here do. How does Steve Young know the playbook? 80% of a playbook he just got this summer- I’d say that’s pretty darn good. Brett Favre didn’t know the Jets playbook when he first got there and he admitted it- a 15 year vet, still struggled. When it comes down to it, you either have to be able to play the game or not. Russell has proven that he belongs- he overcame an injury and spotty play to come in and give his team the lead with 2:34 left- I’d say that’s pretty good. I read somewhre on here that we “have to cut the field in half” because he’s too dumb to see the entire field- Guess what geniuses, Pittsburgh did JUST THAT for Roethlisberger when he was a 1st and 2nd year QB- they eased him into the game. I guess he’s dumb too. This guy’s stats aren’t pretty from Monday night but he played well enough for us to win. One “real” INT against a team that he threw 3 picks against last season and two TDs (yes, I know they overturned it) is darn good. He will play better this weekend.
September 18th, 2009 at 11:40 am
Oh yeah, since I’m new I wonder why everyone thinks Russell only started one season in college? He redshirted in 2003, split time with Marcus Randall in 2004 and started all of 05 and 06. BTW, anyone that thinks the guy can’t throw the sideline out has never watched him in college- he made a living off of that pass to Dewayne Bowe. Timing and route running will fix the passing game. When it clicks, teams will be shaking in their boots when we step on the field on offense.
September 18th, 2009 at 11:45 am
GO watch the tape- MURPHY clearly made a double move and JR froze the safeties- Go watch the clip on NFL network when they show the panned out view. The tape don’t lie.
September 18th, 2009 at 11:46 am
Double move by Murphy?? Looking off the safety? Lies, lies, lies. It was a blown coverage and he did not look off the saftey. What a bunch of B.S.
September 18th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
http://www.raiders.com/media-vault/videos/WK-1-Cant-Miss-Play-JaMarcus-goes-deep/fdc25bb7-15f7-4662-80a5-20af39fb4010
Here is the link if you are not up to searching for the play- watch for Murph and look at JR- never takes his eyes off the middle of the field.
September 19th, 2009 at 9:43 am
Raider looked and played better than they have in years. They have to learn how to win the close game. When they do and they will look out. People need to be fans and not coachs. If all this doubters know how to fix the DARS than why are you not all coachs in the NFL?