Marshall’s plan wasn’t prevent
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, September 17th, 2009 at 4:19 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Tom Cable called it a “prevent mode,” but defensive coordinator John Marshall said the final drive in a 24-20 loss to the San Diego Chargers was not a “prevent” defense.
“Absolutely not. No, no, no, no. We knew we couldn’t,” Marshall said Thursday following practice. “And the players knew they couldn’t. But they just softened the underneath part of the coverage and eventually it hurt us.”
The Raiders were rushing with four men and dropping linebackers into coverage and simply played too soft, Marshall said, failing to make tackles and keep Chargers players from going out of bounds.
“Hell, it’s on me,” Marshall said. “They needed to have a better understanding of what the situation was.”
More news, notes and quotes:
– Remember when Thomas Howard said during training camp that the Raiders were going to blitz because he could see it in Marshall’s eyes?
Marshall said the Raiders called five blitzes against San Diego. One was negated by penalty and two came on San Diego running plays. He admitted he’s not much of “pressure” coordinator, anyway, just like every other coordinator who has worked for Al Davis.
“I know there are some pressure coaches,” Marshall said. “That’s what they do. That’s their scheme, pressure. If you don’t have to pressure and you’ve got the coverage people and the upfront people to do it, then why, other than a change up, why put yourself in that position where somebody could get a big play?”
Given a do-over, Marshall said he wouldn’t be of a mind to dial up a few blitzes on San Diego’s last drive.
“I’d have to say no right now, even looking back on it,” Marshall said. “I would have done some things differently that I won’t mention to you in that last drive. But up until that time we felt pretty confident.”
– Marshall said Richard Seymour’s presence elevated the performance of the entire defense, and cited the five-time Pro Bowler’s bookwork and professionalism in getting ready for the game.
“It’s not like Richard came in here, and we drew it on the board and he went and made a sandwich and went to bed,” Marshall said. “He didn’t. He studied. He and (defensive line coach Dwaine Board) spent probably, oh, I’d say, six seven hours between the two days they were in watching film, and he did a lot of film watching on his own.”
– Guessing the legion of armchair defensive coordinators want no part of Nnamdi Asomugha as a future defensive coordinator. This was his response when asked if the “prevent mode” referred to by Cable against San Diego was a mistake:
“No, no, no, that’s what was needed. Our underneath coverage, maybe we got a little further deep than we probably should have, but, no, that’s how we needed to play in that situation.”
Asomugha said the touchdown surrendered to Vincent Jackson came with a good fake and a back-shoulder fade, noting, “We thought Stan (Stanford Routt) was going to get a hand on it, I guess it was just outside of him.”
– Justin Fargas is back at practice and said he was ready for any role the Raiders had in store for him. Michael Bush isn’t sure as well. All he knows for sure is Darren McFadden is the lead back.
“I heard in the press conference earlier there’s only two primary backs or something, “Bush said. “You never know what will happen. It’s like when I had to wait my turn last year. I don’t know if I have to take a step back and let him get back in or what. I’ll just play it by ear and go with the punches.”
– Defensive end Richard Seymour credited his coaches and teammates for getting him in the right position during the loss to San Diego.
“The coaching staff got me ready to play in less than 48 hours and even while we were on the field, my teammates helped me get lined up, told me where I was supposed to do, what I was supposed to do,” Seymour said. “I have to get adjusted to the terminology that we have here . . . I still have a lot to learn but I’m eager to do it.”
He said he didn’t worry about any stories about what life with the Raiders would be like.
“I try not to judge a situation before I come into it,” Seymour said. “That’s just like when I watch a movie. Somebody says it’s bad, you may like it. I just came into the situation and like I said, I had a lot of issues bigger than football at that time but the guys have been made my transition very easy.”
– With Johnnie Lee Higgins out of practice again, it appears Hiram Eugene will return punts for the first time in the NFL. He said he last returned punts at Louisiana Tech.
“I always joke around with (coach Cable) about returning punts or kickoffs,” Eugene said. “Now I get the opportunity. I’ve got to step up and show what I can do.”
– Defensive end Greg Ellis was limited in pracitce with a sore shoulder but will play, Cable said. Wide receivers Chaz Schilens (broken metacarpal) and Nick Miller (broken bone below shin) are out and did not practice.l
– The way the bandwagon is rolling, you’d think the Raiders actually beat the Chargers instead of the other way around.
Even Marty Schottenheimer doesn’t give the Chiefs much of a chance Sunday.
“I’m also going with the Raiders. Right now there’s just too much that has to get done with Kansas City for them to be able to compete even with the Raiders,” Schottenheimer said on Sirius Satellite Radio.“ I think the Raiders gave evidence the other night that maybe they’ve got some positive things going for them.”
Rich Gannon, not one to hold his tongue regarding his former team, agreed with Schottenheimer.
“I think newly acquired Richard Seymour will continue to have an impact once again and I think the difference in this game is going to be Oakland’s ability to run the football,” Gannon said. “I think that will be the difference. I’m going to take the Raiders on the road.”
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September 17th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
first! holy #$@
September 17th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
ya right rich and marty…ok.
September 17th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
nader,
you’re the man!!!
September 17th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
im ready for sunday raiders win 35-7
September 17th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
“The Raiders were rushing with four men and dropping linebackers into coverage and simply played too soft, Marshall said, failing to make tackles and keep Chargers players from going out of bounds.”
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My question is, when the TV commentators are hollering about it on TV, Why doesn’t somebody in our booth make adjustments????
September 17th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
KC wins it…34-17. Come on Jamarcus prove me wrong. If you do these guys in here get a break from me for a week.
September 17th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
Rich Gannon…yeah baby…come be our QB coach! You would either drive Russell to greatness, or run him out sooner rather than later so that we can move forward…either way we win.
September 17th, 2009 at 4:30 pm
I watched the KC game last night on NFLN Replay. Its not like KC’s offense wqas rolling, they caught a lot of breaks. They scored on a blocked FG and had a int returned to the 3 yard line.
September 17th, 2009 at 4:32 pm
Oh shoot…almost 5:30…gotta go!
September 17th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
“The Raiders were rushing with four men and dropping linebackers into coverage and simply played too soft, Marshall said, failing to make tackles and keep Chargers players from going out of bounds.”
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Why didn’t the coaching staff make any adjustments??????????????
September 17th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
Wow, Steve Young is speaking in KNBR about JR, he claims that JR was throwing the ball without seeing the Wide Receivers. He also said that QB accuracy is more than just throwing the ball to the wide receiver, you have to throw it in such a way that allows the wide out to maximize the drive as far as yards after catch. Basically, he is seeing that JR even when he is accurate, he doesn’t maximize or allows the wide receivers to do something with it, meaning it could be up or down and linebacker might stop the player before he moves around due to the throw rather than the player.
Personally, hall of famer knows his stuff, but in the end, he is full of it. No mention or blame on the wide outs we got, thats crazy.
September 17th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
FYI…
RICHARD SEYMOUR, to be on the Petros & Money radio show. 4:30ish. p.m. PDT. Your local Fox Sports Radio station.
Or, http://www.am570radio.com Listen Live link top of page…
September 17th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
DHB has played one game. How do you know he can’t make plays? San Diego sure thought he could make plays, so they doubled him because they didn’t want to find out. Eventually, teams are going to get tired of getting beat by the underneath WR and the TE and stop doubling DHB, then DHB will have to prove he can make a big play. Here’s hoping it’s this weekend.
That being said, I think the difference this year is the time the OL is giving Russell. Allowing the fast WRs to open up the middle for Miller and the underneath WR.
September 17th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
To his credit, he did say that it was TD.
September 17th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
Here, the Fans watch in Horror, while the Linebackers drop themselves out of the play, and the Coaches either don’t notice or do anything. Whatup with that?
September 17th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
Maybe instead of Marshall calling that his “prevent” defense, he can name it his “allow them to march down the field at will” defense.
September 17th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
Hi Kell,..how ya doin today ol buddy?
September 17th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
I wanna see all the haters talk when JR wins for us next game and completes 75% of his passes along with two tds. All u guys who keep saying JR is bad, u will be down here riding the bandwagon, while I will be posting saying I told u so lol.
September 17th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
Five blitzes the entire game???!!!!
This is why we keep losing.
Until Al Davis is dead, the Raiders will lose, no matter how much talent they have.
September 17th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
agreed. All the best teams can bring natural pressure and any good QB will burn you with the blitz.
September 17th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
JR played just fine. He eventually put us in a possition to win. He even got hurt when Merreroid tried to choke him on the QB sneak.
I can’t imagine JR ever being stopped on a QB sneak. How can anyone ever stop him on a play like that. Great weapon.
September 17th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
seymour was on KHTK with grant and mike
September 17th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
There’s no need to blitz when you’re getting natural pressure.
September 17th, 2009 at 4:54 pm
If they played in front of the 1st down instead 2 yrds behind it the LBers had a shot at Sporles
September 17th, 2009 at 4:54 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
September 17th, 2009 at 3:02 pm
Richochet: Maybe you just need anger management? You know..while there they will teach you that accepting your short comings is key to recovery. That maybe your anger is directed at me because I’m the voice of reason, and that you subscribe to the notion of “shooting the messenger”.
In other words, my words of wisdom ring true, and you’re struggling to deal with the truth, hence the feelings of hostility.”
LA Lackey: Ok, Freud.
You’re laughable. And if I do have anger issues, and you are the messenger, and I’m into shooting messengers, why are you f’ing with me?
Richochet: I suppose it’s probably because you opened your mouth, and inserted foot, and likely didn’t expect me to come and humble your sorryass.
That, and the fact it’s humourous watching you implode.
Hey..I’m not adverse to laughing, and dude, you’re a joke.
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Jaded fool. Don’t mess with the Nation. You’re the same loser that got punked on the playground, laughed at by the opposite sex, and turned to books and the internet to take your feelings of frustration out on a collection of people who subscribe to the team owned by an organization that wronged you.
Richochet: Ahh..got it..the internet tough guy bit? The “look at me, I’m getting punked, so I’m going to pretend I’m a badass”
Seriously..”don’t mess with the nation”? LMAO..BECAUSE??? What? You going to wave the white flag TWICE??
Wow..boy..will that teach me…or what?
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Either that or you really hate the Raiders. ‘Hate’ is a powerful word and a powerful emotion. Hate gets a lot of schit twisted and lots of people catching feeling and acting stupidly.
Richochet: You’re right. See you babbling like a slapped on child reply, above, for proof of what you just said. See your internet tough guy speel to prove my point. You scream “acting stupidly”..oh..that’s right..you ADMITTED AS MUCH ON THE PREVIOUS THREAD..didn’t you?
“Wahhh..Richochet makes me soil my apron…he makes me sooooo mad”
Wasn’t that embarrassing display of ‘pat me on the head, and tell me things are better” FROM YOU? lol..yeah..thought so.
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And of all the wrong and evil and pitiful in the world, you hate the Raiders?
Richochet: LMFAO..wow dude..do I have you jumping through hoops..or what? You’ve been reading too many comic books. And hate? How does anyone hate something that brings them so much entertainment? Shirley..you jest.
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I’m done with you, now Rich. You’re exposed.
How’s that for a psychoanalysis?
Richochet: AND WE HAVE A WINNER
Go look at previous thread. http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2009/09/17/asomugha-shrugs-off-latest-sapp-blast/ Post 35..where I torched your sorryass, and GUARANTEED YOU WOULD DO WHAT YOU JUST DID..yes…honestly…ROFLMFAO.
Here..here’s EXACTLY WHAT I STATED TO YOU THERE.
QUOTE: “Let me guess? This is about the time you state “I’m done”?? LMFAO..too easy.”
And look..above..
La to the Bay: “I’m done with you,”
Dude..you were done before you started. Now..back to the shadows for ya..oh..and I’ll try and be sensitive to your gentle nature.
No..really…I will.
I promise..just for you, Missy.
September 17th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/09/17/personnel-men-line-up-to-rip-niners/
September 17th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
I just wish the Raiders would have put a spy on the RB out of the backfield. Maybe taking out a slow LB and putting Mitchell in just for that purpose.
September 17th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
Raiders4eve Says:
September 17th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
I wanna see all the haters talk when JR wins for us next game and completes 75% of his passes along with two tds. All u guys who keep saying JR is bad, u will be down here riding the bandwagon, while I will be posting saying I told u so lol.
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And when Russell completes 52% of his passes, will you show up and say you’re wrong? Or will you do as all the other “I REFUSE TO EXPECT RUSSELL TO PLAY BETTER” POSTERS do, which is make excuses for him?
September 17th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
Cut Route!
Sign Mcalister!
Bliz every so often on 3rd down. we have the speed.
September 17th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
Does anyone pay attention to those annoying long winded post by you know who?………………………………………………………………………………………………………… didn’t think so
September 17th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
I don’t understand why we don’t blitz more, clearly Tennessee lost the game in overtime for lack of blitzing and focusing on four man rush. Cardinals reached the Superbowl cause they blitz like crazy in the playoff. Giants, Cowboys, Eagles, Packers,Cardinals, and many more all blitz very often lead the NFL in sacks and turnovers. Good things happen when u blitz. Hopefully, we can change some things defensively.
September 17th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
I was one of these guys calling for us to blitz more but if they can get pressure and secondary coverage like they did on Monday, no need to blitz. What they have to do is shore up that 4th quarter D. Allowing all that underneath crap is unacceptable. I can see if the other team doesn’t have enough time and timeouts to chunk down the field 10 yards at a time and need a big play, but that wasn’t the case. SD had enough time.
September 17th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
Watch the Steelers defense my friends. They blitz all the time. And they win.
We don’t blitz, and we lose. Coincidence?
September 17th, 2009 at 5:06 pm
# Ryan Says:
September 17th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
I just wish the Raiders would have put a spy on the RB out of the backfield. Maybe taking out a slow LB and putting Mitchell in just for that purpose.
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If they had done that, they’d be 1-0. Oh well. Can’t do much about it now. What’s encouraging is that Marshall said he’d do some things differently, unlike Nnamdi who scared me with his wouldn’t-do-anything-different response.
September 17th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
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September 17th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
Wow. You guys really don’t know what the hell you’re talking about …playing too much Madden.
Why would you have to blitz if you are already getting natural pressure? That sht just doesn’t make nay sense – nada
September 17th, 2009 at 5:14 pm
Sure the last two drives when the line looked winded – I’m not going to argue much with that.
But saying that we just have to blitz as a general statement is asinine. That’s like saying, empty the backfield when the QB has already been sacked. Just doesn’t make any sense.
September 17th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
I could see a little blitzing on the last 2 drives. As long as you’re smart with it. For instance, we knew they were passing on that drive. Also, be unpredictable as to where it’s coming from. Heck, maybe that would have forced Sproles to stay in and block.
September 17th, 2009 at 5:27 pm
KC wins it…34-17
September 17th, 2009 at 5:28 pm
anyone hear what Seymour had to say on PMS? I’m blocked off of that site….
September 17th, 2009 at 5:29 pm
Raiders4eve Says:
September 17th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
Wow, Steve Young is speaking in KNBR about JR, he claims that JR was throwing the ball without seeing the Wide Receivers. He also said that QB accuracy is more than just throwing the ball to the wide receiver, you have to throw it in such a way that allows the wide out to maximize the drive as far as yards after catch. Basically, he is seeing that JR even when he is accurate, he doesn’t maximize or allows the wide receivers to do something with it, meaning it could be up or down and linebacker might stop the player before he moves around due to the throw rather than the player.
Personally, hall of famer knows his stuff, but in the end, he is full of it. No mention or blame on the wide outs we got, thats crazy.
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That’s basic football Young is mentioning.
It’s YAC. It’s why T.O. and Jerry Rice refused..I mean REFUSED TO PLAY FOR THE NINERS IF JEFF GARCIA WAS STAYING..because he does exactly what Russell does (albeit is better on at least getting the ball in the area)..Garcia’s balls are most times high, low, or behind the receiver, where once the receiver catches the ball, he’s either stopped, or totalled..like HIGGINS WAS.
Russell can hardly hit his target unless they’re open, and he can just throw it hard.
Either you have touch, or you don’t, and Russell doesn’t.
Like Young stated during the game..that’s one area you can’t teach.
September 17th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
RaiderNation4Life1 Says:
September 17th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
im ready for sunday raiders win 35-7
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my Pete’s Magical NFL Spreadsheet has predicted:
Raiders 31
Chiefs 13
and the spreadsheet has never been wrong…
September 17th, 2009 at 5:32 pm
I appreciate what Marshall has done for this defense. But with that said, his comments above were B.S. He called the plays or was instructed to call the plays.
They were playing in their face earlier and then played like a bunch of scared cowards on that last drive.
I would rather play up and get burned deep. The Raiders have lost these games in a textbook fashion.
I am deeply concerned about the quality of gameday management by this coaching staff. And here’s why.
1. Physically punishing the Chargers all game and then play that B.S prevent and let San Diego effortlessly drive 87 yds in a minute and change!
2. Tom Cable’s offensive playcalling in the 3rd QTR was atrocious. No 2-TE sets, no running game, no screens….just go deep baby! What the hell is he trying to prove.
3. Comments about Schilens taking time away from Murphy over Heyward-Bey? Come-on man!
4. And lovable Justin Fargas is back. Means Bush back to the bench. B.S
September 17th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
Ricochet,
Okay. We get it! Why aren’t you on the 49er forum. Big game against the Seahawks.
Can the running game get on track against Seattle?
Can the pass defense stand up for a 2nd week?
You sit here and just lob bombs all day. Its really pathetic
September 17th, 2009 at 5:37 pm
Pete’s Magical NFL Spreadsheet says:
Baltimore
1st Downs 26
Total Plays 75
Total Yards 434
Passing 261
Rushing 173
San Diego
1st Downs 15
Total Plays 64
Total Yards 253
Passing 200
Rushing 113
Final Score
Baltimore 28
San Diego 23
September 17th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
Think Barnes gets a look a RT if Green struggles again? Could Green play RG? That would be a great line to run behind a a good line at pass blocking.
September 17th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
Raiders4eve Says:
September 17th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
Wow, Steve Young is speaking in KNBR about JR, he claims that JR was throwing the ball without seeing the Wide Receivers. He also said that QB accuracy is more than just throwing the ball to the wide receiver, you have to throw it in such a way that allows the wide out to maximize the drive as far as yards after catch. Basically, he is seeing that JR even when he is accurate, he doesn’t maximize or allows the wide receivers to do something with it, meaning it could be up or down and linebacker might stop the player before he moves around due to the throw rather than the player.
Personally, hall of famer knows his stuff, but in the end, he is full of it. No mention or blame on the wide outs we got, thats crazy.
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OK … we won’t believe a HOF QB … after all what does he know … right? LOL.
Seriously … all of America watched the MNF games … they were impressed with the Raiders D and running game … hell alot of them are picking the Raiders to win in KC after that performance even Marty BUT all of them said JaMarcus was terrible … excuse me had a terrible game. There are no more excuses for JaMarcus … so please stop blaming the OL, coaches, WRs and refs. JaMarcus is getting paid the big bucks … it’s time for him earn them.
You can only hide behind the rookie label for so long … now people are starting to take notice includes AL, the coaches , team mates, fans and the rest of the league that JR is slow to develope … a work in progress.
The Raiders now have a good enough team to make the playoffs with any average QB … the bad news is JaMarcus has played below average … so far.
September 17th, 2009 at 5:43 pm
we were rushing 3 and dropping 8. that looks like a Prevent to me. Our LBs were 12 yards down the field. makes no sense.
September 17th, 2009 at 5:43 pm
The secret to success in football is not to be predictable. You can’t run the same vanilla defense on every play and win. You have to blitz to mix it up some. Al needs to read The Art of War.
September 17th, 2009 at 5:50 pm
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September 17th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
Asomugha said the touchdown surrendered to Vincent Jackson came with a good fake and a back-shoulder fade, noting, “We thought Stan (Stanford Routt) was going to get a hand on it, I guess it was just outside of him.”
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We all thought he would get a hand on it, but he has ZERO BALL SKILLS. The guy is supposed to be some type of track star, but he couldn’t get more than 8 inches on his vertical. I hate him.
I’m watching you Pete, 31-13 is a lot of points for that game, but I like that you are bringing back the “machine”.
September 17th, 2009 at 5:52 pm
K.C. gavw up like 500 yards of offense and their offense ranks near the bottom in yards gained. Had like 20 yards rushing. We should punish these fools. All you haters will have to shut up for a week. You know who you are.
September 17th, 2009 at 5:52 pm
Pete’s Magical NFL Spreadsheet says:
Seattle
1st Downs 21
Total Plays 67
Total Yards 373
Passing 269
Rushing 104
San Francisco
1st Downs 13
Total Plays 62
Total Yards 225
Passing 176
Rushing 31
Final Score
Seattle 23
San Francisco 10
September 17th, 2009 at 5:52 pm
I was in here last night arguing with everyone about this prevent crap. People think when they see a zone late in a game it’s a prevent.
Hell all you have to do is look at the defense that SD was because of our speed and it was as loose as the defense we were playing but differently. In their case it was their safeties and we still beat it with speed.
There’s been a lot said about DHB and his value. Trust me DHB is doing a lot of damage. The reason that Murphy got deep isbecause like a domino effect the TE was getting wide open and the safety wa anticipating the ball ging to the TE but instead it went over his head and Murphy kept running and BANANZA …..TD.
If Russell doesn’t use the TE because of those coverages early the safety doesn’t guess wrong. And that is probably going to to the TE but there is no way you can stop it all and that’s because DHB’s speed is just tooo lethal.
Soon enough DHB will mae aplay deep an when the NFL sees the kind of speed this kid really posseses this offense will really start to roll. That’s why when people ask why is he starting just watch how wide open the TE is and you’ll know.
Last year ZMiller was doubled and sometimes tripled because they knew Russell would go there in a tough situation but this game and what they saw with Murphy they can never cover ZM like that again. Just tooo much speed outside.
September 17th, 2009 at 5:53 pm
Stop making excuses for Russell … he’s a big boy … he can show us what’s he got.
Maybe the Raiders should have gone after Favre? We would have been 1-0 now.
September 17th, 2009 at 5:56 pm
Is Russell behind? Yes. That’s because Al Davis did not give him the tools to succeed:
1. Hold out that resulted in loss of training camp. Folks, if you miss training camp you don’t get the coaching. Don’t get the reps! Don’t get to play! During the season they spend most of their time game planning and prepping. Not coaching basics! LOST SEASON!!!!!!
2. No professional coaching in first 2 yrs. Davis gave him Kiffin, DeFilipo his first two years
3. 3 playcallers in 3 years
4. Now pay attention here! This past august:
a. Ashlie Lelie was cut by the 3rd worst NFL team
b. Ronald Curry was cut by the 1st & 2nd worst teams
c. Kwame Harris wasn’t even invited to any camp
d. Javon Walker was never 70% and not mentally in it
5. See above: Those 4 guys were Russell’s starters!
6. For his home opener he starts with TWO rookie receivers!
And through all that…the Raiders had the lead with less than 2 minutes left. He doesn’t throw teammates under the bus and says the right things.
You have to be patient with this kid. If you can’t, then go watch Arizona, Tennessee, Minnesota or Miami as they plod through their last year with their respective signal callers.
You can’t win consistently without a 10 to 12 yr QB
September 17th, 2009 at 5:58 pm
SnB, that was not a prevent, it was a zone the only reason and we all saw it that it didn’t work is because the LB played it way to soft. That was done to keep tham from getting 15 yards a pop. But the LB played tooo deep they should’ve kept a spy in the short zones…………period
Correct defense bad execution.
September 17th, 2009 at 6:00 pm
Priesttj,
Call it whatever you want. All I know is that defense in the last 2 minutes was not the same defense I watched the first 58 minutes.
It looked just like the last minutes of the Buffalo and Miami games.
The Raiders had NO BUSINESS losing that game and basically gave it away.
“We had them where we wanted them…..and we let’em off the hook!”
September 17th, 2009 at 6:01 pm
raideralex99 Says:
September 17th, 2009 at 5:53 pm
Stop making excuses for Russell … he’s a big boy … he can show us what’s he got.
Maybe the Raiders should have gone after Favre? We would have been 1-0 now.
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And he will. His curve is longer than others. Football is not tennis, golf or a batter in baseball. Your performance is directly related to your teammates AND coaching. Russell has work to do…but let’s not delude ourselves into thinking a lineup with two rookie receivers is Super Bowl ready!
A lot of learning still to do…including the coaching staff who is the real reason the Raiders gave the game away.
As for Favre, again, if you are not developing a long-term solution at the QB position….you are wasting time.
Boy that Josh McCown really made an impact!
September 17th, 2009 at 6:02 pm
its funny that JR can find Zack Miller EVERY time. but cant hit a WR for anything. I’m HOPING its more about being comfortable for JR than about bad mechanics and pop warner accuracy.Russel BETTER start hitting the target,otherwise he should be benched.
September 17th, 2009 at 6:03 pm
manassamauler Says:
September 17th, 2009 at 6:02 pm
its funny that JR can find Zack Miller EVERY time. but cant hit a WR for anything. I’m HOPING its more about being comfortable for JR than about bad mechanics and pop warner accuracy.Russel BETTER start hitting the target,otherwise he should be benched.
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Because they have chemistry with each other. They both know and can read each other. Same with Schilens.
DHB and Murphy are still learning the basics of NFL football.
September 17th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
SnB, o course it wasn’t but thta’s not the situation that you want to play if we play right maybe they don’t even get the 1st 1st down.
No defense is a good defense if you don’t execute, we have had bad experiences with zones and I know wat you mean but if it’s executed right it will work.
And that is all that matters. We were not agressive again not in the playcalling but in execution. We get caught in no man’s land. If they mix it up a bit and execute it right it will work. Especially with pressure from the front 4. T Scott was just a spit second late and he would’ve had a bigtime sack.
September 17th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
Seeing how Routt swatted around that ball thrown for a Touchdown looked like a fat kid all dilusional, swimming for a cupcake with extra frosting and rainbow sprinkles. That must have been embarrassing for him. I thought he was better than that. Should have at least been batted down, if not intercepted. Too bad…
September 17th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
Priest,
You know why everyone is calling it a Prevent Defense? Because it prevented the Raiders from winning the game.
and maybe because the Head Coach called it a prevent and the “Pro-Bowl” CB called it a prevent.
So either Cable is stupid and doesn’t know what he is talking about, or Marshall is doing damage control because he f’d up.
I am going with the latter.
September 17th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
So now that 30 year NFL Coach John Marshall has basically completely REFUTED EVERYTHING maddenknucklehead has posted over the last three days where is MR?? Where are you maddenloser?? I figured as much.
September 17th, 2009 at 6:19 pm
Great post SnB #61
September 17th, 2009 at 6:19 pm
SNB is exactly right.
September 17th, 2009 at 6:19 pm
vegas raider Says:
September 17th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
I’m watching you Pete, 31-13 is a lot of points for that game, but I like that you are bringing back the “machine”.
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it’s still early… as the season goes on the spreadsheet should become more accurate…
also, if i notice “things” and can put a formula to it to enhance the value that will also happen…
i hope that made sense…
September 17th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
Pete’s Magical NFL Spreadsheet says:
Pittsburgh
1st Downs 16
Total Plays 62
Total Yards 292
Passing 236
Rushing 56
Chicago
1st Downs 18
Total Plays 62
Total Yards 336
Passing 250
Rushing 81
Final Score
Pittsburgh 17
Chicago 13
September 17th, 2009 at 6:26 pm
Pete’s Magical NFL Spreadsheet says:
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How accurate have ya been pete??????
September 17th, 2009 at 6:26 pm
Pete’s Magical NFL Spreadsheet says:
Oakland
1st Downs 26
Total Plays 75
Total Yards 434
Passing 261
Rushing 173
Kansas City
1st Downs 15
Total Plays 65
Total Yards 253
Passing 200
Rushing 53
Final Score
Oakland 31
Kansas City 13
September 17th, 2009 at 6:28 pm
I think Russell has slowly started turning his attitude around. With his boy, Bowe’s comments, I think he’s going to start stepping up and taking initiave with “his” team, as he should. He’s slow, and apparently fatter than Janikowski, and deep down doesn’t really give two sh**s, but we’ll see how efficient and how well he connects with his receivers on Sunday compared to Monday. He does need to open his view of the field. He left Higgins out for bait and got laid out because of it. Yeah…Monday was a good productive learning experience-if he sees it that way.
September 17th, 2009 at 6:30 pm
Thec07 Says:
September 17th, 2009 at 6:26 pm
Pete’s Magical NFL Spreadsheet says:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++=
How accurate have ya been pete??????
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the one i did in the early/mid 90’s was actually pretty good… probably 90% accurate…
the depressing part was that it accurately predicted Raider losses… and one of those years was not a good one for us…
so i didn’t keep it up…
it’s a work in progress…
i say it’s never been wrong… because i wrote it over the past two days…
September 17th, 2009 at 6:41 pm
one thing football and sex have in common…
they are both games of inches…
or in richochet’s case, inch…
rimshot… OHHHHHH!!!!!
September 17th, 2009 at 6:42 pm
sup NATION??? Jerry’s on fire last 2 days!!!!
September 17th, 2009 at 6:44 pm
Priest, I tried to tell the boys the same thing. They got their heads bent. Won’t listen to a word of simple logic.
NFLN not too long ago showed a sky cam view of a JR to ZM throw. ZM was wide open deep in the middle. The only way he got THAT wide open with no defender in sight was because DHB pulled the safety blowing by the CB. The safety tried to wait it out and play Miller too he couldn’t so he had to chase up field to double DHB leaving a great distance between himself and Miller. Easy 1st down.
That’s value lame brains. Everyone knows he’s got to catch – that goes without saying – but to say he isn’t doing anything now is just missing everything.
September 17th, 2009 at 6:49 pm
75, I don’t remember Nnamdi or the HC calling it a prevent, Cable said it almost looked like a prevent which when he said it I knew everyone would say that’s what it was an Nnamdi saidit was the right defense we just need to play it better.
So 75, if you can post otherwise I’ll believe it.
September 17th, 2009 at 6:53 pm
Pete, 90% is wayyyyyy good. that means you place 10 bets you win 9….. Pete do me a favor track how you have done so far. not that i am a degenerate gambler, just saying…
September 17th, 2009 at 6:55 pm
The problem with that defense at the end was simple. LBs just played too far off. That can be corrected out of them with instruction.
I kind of blame the coaches for this one more than the players because it was before that final SD drive when they ran a soft zone and the LBs did the same thing (on a Sproles or Gates converted 3rd down).
It was a precursor to SD’s final drive. At least the LBs were consistent all the way through. And its because they were consistent in dropping back is why I think that defense just wasn’t taught properly. The coaches should’ve seen this …but that’s hindsight. Its an easy fix. So I’m not worried. Its hard to be perfect at everything.
September 17th, 2009 at 7:04 pm
Priesttj,
The coaches have to a better job managing games in the 2nd half.
The only good thing to be taken from this loss is the lessons learned and a belief that they won’t be repeated.
September 17th, 2009 at 7:04 pm
Thec07 Says:
September 17th, 2009 at 6:53 pm
Pete, 90% is wayyyyyy good. that means you place 10 bets you win 9….. Pete do me a favor track how you have done so far. not that i am a degenerate gambler, just saying…
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i haven’t set up that part of the sheet yet…
and it does give me an idea of how to integrate prediction with actual… to help gauge likely discrepancies…
September 17th, 2009 at 7:08 pm
right now everything is based on a week one game…
but i have to admit… the pundits and writers have me confused…
San Diego finished last year 8-8…
did nothing really interesting in the off-season…
and yet they have tham as one of the four top teams in the NFL…
does not make sense to me…
i would put them at about midway… 17 maybe…
September 17th, 2009 at 7:08 pm
# Florida Pete Says:
September 17th, 2009 at 6:41 pm
one thing football and sex have in common…
they are both games of inches…
or in richochet’s case, inch…
rimshot… OHHHHHH!!!!!
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When you say “hike” to rack-ette she starts hiking up her skirt.
September 17th, 2009 at 7:10 pm
Thec07 Says:
September 17th, 2009 at 6:53 pm
Pete, 90% is wayyyyyy good. that means you place 10 bets you win 9….. Pete do me a favor track how you have done so far. not that i am a degenerate gambler, just saying…
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just occurred to me… the 90% is predicting win-loss not action against point spreads…
although i may incorporate that into the sheet as well…
September 17th, 2009 at 7:13 pm
That defense was totally prevent. I don’t care what Al’s puppet says.
September 17th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 17th, 2009 at 7:04 pm
Priesttj,
The coaches have to a better job managing games in the 2nd half.
The only good thing to be taken from this loss is the lessons learned and a belief that they won’t be repeated.
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i think cable is a work in progress…
but i like what he is doing and how he is going about his business…
i liked they way he started camp… and i like the stress on fundamental football…
i did not get the 3rd qtr offense playcalling…
and i will never understand the “prevent/soft zone/rush3/provide the other team with an excellent clock management training exercise” thingy…
September 17th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
72. Is till think a deal for Bowe to oakland could happen some day. Maybe after the Walker era…lol!
Alot of the media focus on Rivers saving the day, but Oakland unleashed a phuysical holy arz kicking on SD that was a sight to belhold. The Raiders had 2 plays in a row where they read,reacted and destoyed SD plays. Of course the 3rd play was a Rivers TD pass while the defense was busy admiring their previous 2 plays…
September 17th, 2009 at 7:18 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
September 17th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
72. Is till think a deal for Bowe to oakland could happen some day. Maybe after the Walker era…lol!
Alot of the media focus on Rivers saving the day, but Oakland unleashed a phuysical holy arz kicking on SD that was a sight to belhold. The Raiders had 2 plays in a row where they read,reacted and destoyed SD plays. Of course the 3rd play was a Rivers TD pass while the defense was busy admiring their previous 2 plays…
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okay… new rule…
no high-fives while the ball is being hiked…
September 17th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
Oakglenn Says:
September 17th, 2009 at 7:08 pm
# Florida Pete Says:
September 17th, 2009 at 6:41 pm
one thing football and sex have in common…
they are both games of inches…
or in richochet’s case, inch…
rimshot… OHHHHHH!!!!!
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When you say “hike” to rack-ette she starts hiking up her skirt.
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yeah, but is that something anybody really wants…
September 17th, 2009 at 7:55 pm
RaiderLen Says:
September 17th, 2009 at 7:55 pm
Evening Nation,
I’m reading that DHB is a DECOY. I would suggest that if he is pulling the safety His way, drawing double coverage…He is veiwed as as a THREAT.
It’s 11 on 11.If a Rookie commands a double team to free up others…then at this point He has done His Job.
As Dell said in an earlier post, He Can become “Cliff Branch Like.”
DHB will catch His fair share of passes. The Raiders are willing to let Him learn on the fly, because He ALREADY serves a usefull purpose to the Entire Offense.
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i’m guessing that Bey’s double team days are drawing to a close…
if i’m a defensive coordinator, based on what i see in mondays game film…
i cover with a corner and demand that he prove that he and Jamarcus can do something…
September 17th, 2009 at 7:55 pm
Evening Nation,
I’m reading that DHB is a DECOY. I would suggest that if he is pulling the safety His way, drawing double coverage…He is veiwed as as a THREAT.
It’s 11 on 11.If a Rookie commands a double team to free up others…then at this point He has done His Job.
As Dell said in an earlier post, He Can become “Cliff Branch Like.”
DHB will catch His fair share of passes. The Raiders are willing to let Him learn on the fly, because He ALREADY serves a usefull purpose to the Entire Offense.
September 17th, 2009 at 8:00 pm
Heres how we could have mixed it up on defense on the last drive. When the drive commenced and they are before the 20, play a little soft underneath and in the middle and take away the sidelines. force them to go underneath in the middle. This will let the clock tick and force them to use timeouts. IF they begin to march towards mid field, lets say they reach their own 40, start playing them tight with one safety deep. do a little bump and run and eventually send a corner blitz from the blindside, like woodson in the tuck game… while you have the safety come over and cover but not get burned deep.
September 17th, 2009 at 8:02 pm
SD is a 7-9 team at best. I have been trumpeting for months that they had a weak Oline, and now that the Raiders soften them up I am not sure they take the west.
I will go out on a limb and say that Bmore will not sit back they will attack rivers, I would be very surprised if he makes it out of that game…..
September 17th, 2009 at 8:04 pm
Pete, did you do your magical thing in excel, or
Is it an Access database???
September 17th, 2009 at 8:07 pm
That clown florio has picks the raiders to win….
http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/32779492/ns/sports/?pg=8#spt_PFT_picks_09
September 17th, 2009 at 8:08 pm
Hey Pete,
Fair enough, but I think that It’s gonna take more than One game.
DHB will only get better. More Threat. Not less.
September 17th, 2009 at 8:17 pm
Rack O Lamb is on the payroll.
He’s paid by the letter. Pasted or otherwise.
How Bout Them Raiders!
0-1 for 2009.
24-72 in the prior 6 Years?
That’s a lot of “material” to work with.
Plus the added bonus of an “old man” that has lost it.
The plot lines are endless.
Rack-O-Lamb…once you’ve filled your bank account with all the money you’ll ever need, do all of us a favor and Retire.
Best Regards,
Len
September 17th, 2009 at 8:19 pm
I like your stuff rich, but challenge yourself to make your point without all the cutting and pasting, Im betting you can do it, and if these fools dont follow your point its their problem.
September 17th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
RaiderLen Says:
September 17th, 2009 at 8:08 pm
Hey Pete,
Fair enough, but I think that It’s gonna take more than One game.
DHB will only get better. More Threat. Not less.
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Only get better? What’s the other option?
HE CAN’T GET ANY WORSE.
When you’ve contributed zero, there’s only one direction to go.
But hey..way to have a firm grasp on the obvious.
September 17th, 2009 at 8:22 pm
I just stop in on occasion, Norco, so replying to a random post from a bit ago doesn’t always make sense…but hey..I’ll keep it in mind.
(for some it’s a deliberate needle..which is by design.
)
After all, not easy to laugh at someone in a crowd without pointing
September 17th, 2009 at 8:27 pm
Pete, If you did use access you may want to consider moving to a SQL, or Oracle database…
MYSQL is open source as of right now, but with oracle buying sun, not sure how much longer it is going to last.
September 17th, 2009 at 8:28 pm
Rack -O-Lamb,
You are ONE hell of a Troll. Nice Post.
By the way the “obvious” has left your building a long time ago. Ha!
September 17th, 2009 at 8:38 pm
Len?
Retire?
“I’LL RETIRE WHEN THE RAIDERS WIN TWO MORE SUPER BOWL’S”
48 more years of this?
Damn
September 17th, 2009 at 8:38 pm
Rack-O-Lamb,
If You live another 48 years, and extrapolate it…The Raiders should appear in 5 SuperBowls and Win 3.
There Ya go!
That’s as far as my math skills will take me.
If You only live another 24Yrs, then I guess by the law of averages You could divide my calculations in half.
And so on etc…
September 17th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
There is no excuse for this! 30 years in the league give me a FKN break! Marshall you sent those LB’s into soft coverage they didn’t do that on instincts!
“Hell, it’s on me,” Marshall said. “They needed to have a better understanding of what the situation was,” Marshall said.
September 17th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
Oakglen, you are still here posting after you said you didnt call Sanchez a bust ?
# Oakglenn Says:
June 8th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
Mark Sanchez is a bust. Now we won’t know that for three years, but I know now. That makes no sense. Unless, you’re a moron
September 17th, 2009 at 8:43 pm
Oakglen, by your own admission all you have is half a brain.
Oakglenn Says:
June 8th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
Anyone with half a brain can see that Jamarcus Russell is a bonafide franchise Q.
September 17th, 2009 at 8:47 pm
Mistabrown,
Callin out Oakglenn. Lookin for a fight.
Hatfield and McCoy?
LOL
September 17th, 2009 at 8:48 pm
Norco..I tried..really, I did.
I haven’t given up, but in this case..
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RaiderLen Says:
September 17th, 2009 at 7:55 pm
Evening Nation,
I’m reading that DHB is a DECOY. I would suggest that if he is pulling the safety His way, drawing double coverage…He is veiwed as as a THREAT.
It’s 11 on 11.If a Rookie commands a double team to free up others…then at this point He has done His Job.
As Dell said in an earlier post, He Can become “Cliff Branch Like.”
DHB will catch His fair share of passes. The Raiders are willing to let Him learn on the fly, because He ALREADY serves a usefull purpose to the Entire Offense.
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He’s done his job??
Cool!!!.
Wait..let me check something.
Hey..with all of Jerry Rice’s accolades for being the best WR in the NFL??
HE DOESN’T OWN THE RECORD FOR “DECOY”.
I wonder..when was the last time someone jumped up and down, screaming a players name yelling “DECOY….RAAAAAAIIIDERRRRRRRRS”?
Escapes me at the moment.
(in other words, I call FOUL on the “doing his job” bit. Of all the stats that a receiver can strive for, decoy isn’t anywhere to be found. Maybe catching a ball..now and again?
Yay?
Nay?
What the Bey?
September 17th, 2009 at 8:49 pm
on my way vegas .. 9:30ish
September 17th, 2009 at 8:50 pm
Len, if he could put up a fight that would be the case. So its just just a poke in the eye at this point..
September 17th, 2009 at 8:50 pm
Nice try Rack-O-Lamb.
LOL…:)
September 17th, 2009 at 8:51 pm
Richochet you have no self control in regard to 8×12 post of pure nonsense do you ?
September 17th, 2009 at 8:53 pm
OMFG … PFT pick the Raiders … check what they said we DON”T have a QB … see people are starting to notice … it’s only a matter of time before the other half of the Raider nation see it too.
Raiders (0-1) at Chiefs (0-1)
1 p.m. ET, CBS
This is the battle the plucky also-rans who almost pulled off Week 1 stunners, only to lose in the end.
The Raiders actually looked like a complete football team on Monday night against the Chargers, except they don’t have a quarterback. The Chiefs have one, but they aren’t sure if Matt Cassel will be ready to start after missing the opener. And they don’t have much else.
Oakland’s offensive line and running game is the best thing either team in this game has going. Even though the smart money is on Cassel playing and the Chiefs finding a way to win at Arrowhead, no one ever accused us of being smart. We’ve got Tom Cable fever.
Pick: Raiders 24, Chiefs 21
September 17th, 2009 at 8:58 pm
missed-a-brain you back after embarrassing yourself again?? This should be rich. Keep talking you’re sure to start embarrassing yourself any second.
September 17th, 2009 at 8:59 pm
Oakglen, do you ever log off this blog?
September 17th, 2009 at 9:02 pm
missed-as-brain you back with the same tired idiotic rant that you posted two days ago, when you were promising an earth shattering post, and you got once again, as usual, run off the blog?? No one cares what you think. You aren’t living in the dark ages, the wheel hasn’t been invented in the world you live in.
September 17th, 2009 at 9:03 pm
jhill Says:
September 17th, 2009 at 8:49 pm
on my way vegas .. 9:30ish
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All right, was about to throw in the towel on you
September 17th, 2009 at 9:03 pm
Why dont you explain how I embarrassed myself..
Recap:
You said you didnt call Sanchez a bust.
Recap:
I post you saying exactly that
Delusional is your middle name ?
September 17th, 2009 at 9:05 pm
Question…
Oakglenn and Mista
Who wants to be Hatfield?
Who wants to be McCoy?
You Guys are hilarious.
Does familiarity really breed contempt?
September 17th, 2009 at 9:05 pm
# Oakglenn Says:
June 8th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
Mark Sanchez is a bust. Now we won’t know that for three years, but I know now. That makes no sense. Unless, you’re a moron.
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# Oakglenn Says:
September 13th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
Why don’t you go find it?? I never said it. You are a complete idiotic liar. Until you find that statement, expect this post to follow each and ever one of your posts. Liar.
September 17th, 2009 at 9:06 pm
Oakglen, which side of your brain is malfunctioning?
September 17th, 2009 at 9:06 pm
Once again Im not saying Sanchez is a bust or not.
Im jus pointing out you are a compulsive liar & sociopath.
Apparently even you cant wrap your little brain around that. I could care less about Sanchez or what he did last week or the next 15 weeks…U are a dyk brained loser thats the only point here.
Keep posting nonsense..
September 17th, 2009 at 9:07 pm
RaiderLen Says:
September 17th, 2009 at 8:47 pm
Mistabrown,
Callin out Oakglenn. Lookin for a fight.
Hatfield and McCoy?
LOL
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OakGlenn?
Oakglenn fight?
If you call swinging your purse, and wagging your finger, with hand on hip, saying ‘OH NO YOU DON’T’..then Oakglen is your girl.
September 17th, 2009 at 9:07 pm
Look at you calling me stupid when Sanchez is not even the issue here. The issue here is you talk out your ass hole and then call others stupid when they prove you are a liar.
Who raised you a chimpanzee ?
September 17th, 2009 at 9:09 pm
Mistabrown Says:
September 17th, 2009 at 9:06 pm
Oakglen, which side of your brain is malfunctioning?
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You have evidence that one side IS functioning?
September 17th, 2009 at 9:11 pm
# Mistabrown Says:
September 17th, 2009 at 9:03 pm
Why dont you explain how I embarrassed myself..
Recap:
You said you didnt call Sanchez a bust.
Recap:
I post you saying exactly that
Delusional is your middle name ?
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You think one start proves he is not a bust. YOU ARE COMPLETELY DELUSIONAL. What is he going to do missed-a-brain, retire right now?? Live off his one game laurels??? You are sooooo stupid. LMAO.
September 17th, 2009 at 9:13 pm
Mistabrown Says:
September 17th, 2009 at 8:51 pm
Richochet you have no self control in regard to 8×12 post of pure nonsense do you ?
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You and I are both aware you are the one sentence wonder. I can respect that.
Like it or not, debates don’t last one sentence.
Movies aren’t 3 minutes long.
Wars aren’t won in 2 jabs, and a massive nag fest, Oakgleens whimpering notwithstanding.
Wait.
What were we talking about?
September 17th, 2009 at 9:14 pm
How bout them Browns missed-a-brain. You said they would be a thorn in their division. They won one game. You don’t believe in global warming. You think Farve sucks even tho he holds every passing record in the NFL. You think the world is flat. And that is just in the last couple of days. Anything I am missing here??
September 17th, 2009 at 9:15 pm
How Bout Them Raiders!
(With Richard Seymour)
Cough Cough
September 17th, 2009 at 9:19 pm
Oakglen, Im not ignorant enough to say Sanchez is a bust after just 1 game or even 16 games. You however are just that ignorant to do that before even the pre-season started. And yet here you are calling me dumb…lmao
# Oakglenn Says:
June 8th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
Mark Sanchez is a bust. Now we won’t know that for three years, but I know now. That makes no sense. Unless, you’re a moron.
September 17th, 2009 at 9:20 pm
Oh please rack. Joining forces with missed-a-brain? What is this the vomit and dog sheeit show?
September 17th, 2009 at 9:20 pm
Len is right Dud. Go Try out. Like I posted a day or so ago, anyone can be an NFL Q in your minds. Go do it. You too can make tens of millions and dollars, pull tons of tail and you can quit your job shortchanging trustful old ladies at the coffee shop where you are a barista.
September 17th, 2009 at 9:20 pm
I would be really hopeful if there was an NFL QB on the roster.
September 17th, 2009 at 9:21 pm
Oakglen comes in here day after day and gets made a fool of or a liar, or both. And he returns as if it never happened calling everybody stupid.
I’ve never seen an individual in such a mess or denial in my life. Easily the most disturbing pathetic individual walking the earth!
September 17th, 2009 at 9:24 pm
Dude, give AL a call. Show off Your skills.
You can convince Him. You can Be the QB, or Tell Him who Should be.
You are the Man. Otherwise You wouldn’t be DUDE.
Dude…Get It Done.
September 17th, 2009 at 9:29 pm
hahahahaha. missed-a-brain, that comment about Sanchez I am RIDICULING YOU!!! You didn’t get it then, and you don’t get it now!! ROFLMAO!
September 17th, 2009 at 9:30 pm
Speaking of NFL Qb’s. Here is a beauty from the worlds worst GM in history!
Oakglen, do you want to defend this brilliance ?
Oakglenn Says:
June 8th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
Anyone with half a brain can see that Jamarcus Russell is a bonafide franchise Q.
September 17th, 2009 at 9:32 pm
Russell a franchise Q? What franchise? McDonalds? Dunkin Donuts??
September 17th, 2009 at 9:32 pm
The 2 guys I will be watching closely this weekend is Russell and DHB……
The Jury is out on both of them…
They should try to help each other out and try to come in for the BIG win at K.C…
DHB saying that he “had a solid game” vs the Chargers was a joke!! Right??
September 17th, 2009 at 9:32 pm
missed-a-brain, you come onto this site every day looking for someone to fight with. I send you packing each and every time. You are disturbed and bitter. The problem with you is you have an extreme deficiency of brain power. don’t go away angry and bitter, just go away! And take up a new hobby. Try stamp collecting. There is hardly any thinking involved.
September 17th, 2009 at 9:33 pm
Oak,
How is Sanchez a bust?
September 17th, 2009 at 9:34 pm
You can’t tie your own shoes. Some one has to help you. Why would I talk to you?? Answer that.
September 17th, 2009 at 9:34 pm
LMAO @ 142
September 17th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
Dude I guess you dont have half a brain. Only Oakglen and his half a brain can see that!
September 17th, 2009 at 9:37 pm
Oakglenn Says:
June 8th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
Anyone with half a brain can see that Jamarcus Russell is a bonafide franchise Q.
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Oh damn..you did say that, didn’t you?
For that alone you get the board penalty of having to write, 100 times, “I am dumber than cotton”..then you have to apologize to every cotton ball out there.
Hey, don’t blame me. I don’t make the rules.
September 17th, 2009 at 9:38 pm
Everyone will learn something about Jamarcus this season.
Most importantly…THE COACHES.
As an observer, I’m willing to withhold “judgment” for this season and next.
I’m an optimist.
September 17th, 2009 at 9:38 pm
Oakglen,
Im going to logoff and get some shut eye. Dont forget tomorrow to tell me how “you ran me off the blog” last night!
lmao
September 17th, 2009 at 9:40 pm
Looks like the lowest forms of life have all banded together on the blog. Funny how that happens. Dud steals from old woman, and missed-a-brain wallows in the gutter looking up rack-ettes skirt. Between the three of you I’ll put my life savings we don’t have a triple digit IQ three of you combined!
September 17th, 2009 at 9:40 pm
Sure looked good on Monday didnt he. Single handedly lost the game.
September 17th, 2009 at 9:47 pm
RaiderLen,
I’ll just forget your willing to give JaMeatball 5 years to prove himself…..wow
out
September 17th, 2009 at 9:48 pm
Why do people want to take a snapshot in time and make an all time lasting judgment by it. JaMarcus did some good things Monday night but he did struggle getting the ball to his WR’s. I would be willing to bet that he would not have had nearly as much problem with that if Schilens had been healthy. As Murphy and DHB get better so will Russel. Russel had three pretty good games in a row in his last three games that counted, and then he had one in which his stats weren’t that good, although the stats do not tell how many drops he had and how many times the rookies may have not run the correct pattern. I think by the end of the year we will have a good idea of just what JaMarcus is as a QB. He wasn’t real good Monday, but would have been much better without the drops.
September 17th, 2009 at 9:49 pm
Now that that unpleasantness has departed. funny how missed-a-brain only comes on to denegrate the team and fight and argue. What a sad, sad, misguided POS. But I get humor out of ridiculing him.
September 17th, 2009 at 9:49 pm
all you people need to get over this freakin last game its in the past 24-20 is the result talking about it, is not gonna change the results we have a game this week lets talk about that game
September 17th, 2009 at 9:49 pm
Oakglenn,
Thanks for proving my point. Idiot
September 17th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
I am not saying this to trash Russel, but if we had Rich Gannon at his best with this team right now, they would be very tough to beet.
September 17th, 2009 at 9:55 pm
Mista, Have it anyway You like.
I’m not suffering one way or the other.
How old was our most recent “good / successfull” QB when he came to the Raiders?
I’m guessing it was much older than 25.
Have fun Hating.
Best Regards,
Len
PS…The End.
September 17th, 2009 at 9:56 pm
Dud isn’t there some trusting elderly woman ordering a small coffee on here social security money that you can steal from??
September 17th, 2009 at 9:57 pm
Marshall’s another Davis shill just happy to have a job. I love how he first says it wasn’t a prevent. Then he says the linebackers played too soft (which is a prevent. When you have the secondary and the linebackers playing soft…THAT’S a prevent! No wonder this guy’s working for the Raiders…). Then, he blames himself. That’s usually how you can tell someone’s either full of it, or doesn’t know what they’re talking about. When they change their story 3 times within a minute.
September 17th, 2009 at 10:02 pm
Real Maden Raider…
I didn’t read your entire post.
I saw “shill” and understood that you mean conspiracy.
It is a conspiracy. But for reasons that you’re not willing to acknowledge.
Google… Conspiracy…there’s lots of places to ogle things much more important than AL Davis and the Raiders.
September 17th, 2009 at 10:09 pm
Please tell me you’re not driving anywhere tonight, Len.
September 17th, 2009 at 10:49 pm
Pretty Pathetic..
Snoop Doggy Dogg……Now acts like he’s been a Steeler fan all his life….
Whatta Idiot….
Gave up on the Raiders I guess….
Ice Cube seems to be hangin in there though!!
He’s doing a documentary on the Raiders!! Still a Die Hard Raider fan!!
September 17th, 2009 at 10:59 pm
MR,
I cant wait for a Raider win…..
Its the only time you will not hear MR put DOWN Al Davis and the coaching staff…….
Matter of fact…He wont even mention them.
The guy really is a loser…Should get a life!!
September 18th, 2009 at 4:42 am
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September 18th, 2009 at 5:17 am
the linebackrs were so far away from the line of scrimmage i could have handed them a beer it wasnt soft it was pathetic
September 18th, 2009 at 11:09 am
I think we played excellent the first 3 1/2 quarters. That last San Diego drive killed us. Needed to have a linebacker or two spying the quarterback. With his speed and atheletic ability, Thomas Howard would have been perfect for that job. Overall though, the “D” is better. Once Richard Seymour gets acclimated to how we do things over here, we’ll be a force to be reckoned with. We need to bring just a little bit more pressure though. Offense still needs some work. Jamarcus really needs to spend extra time working on his accuracy. I also think he should use his size and abilty to scramble more often. I think it’ll add another demension to his game and to our offense. The recievers are still youngsters so some games they’re gonna struggle but once we get Chaz Schilins that unit will be better. We need to also give Myers a bigger role in the offense. K.C. won’t be ready for us on Sunday. I think the Daygo game left a bad taste in our mouths and they’re ready to “let loose”! K.C is gonna feel the wrath! The runningbacks should have a monster game! All three of them!!! Hang in there “Nation”, we’re getting there!
September 19th, 2009 at 1:43 pm
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