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Marshall’s plan wasn’t prevent

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, September 17th, 2009 at 4:19 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Tom Cable called it a “prevent mode,” but defensive coordinator John Marshall said the final drive in a 24-20 loss to the San Diego Chargers was not a “prevent” defense.

“Absolutely not. No, no, no, no. We knew we couldn’t,” Marshall said Thursday following practice. “And the players knew they couldn’t. But they just softened the underneath part of the coverage and eventually it hurt us.”

The Raiders were rushing with four men and dropping linebackers into coverage and simply played too soft, Marshall said, failing to make tackles and keep Chargers players from going out of bounds.

“Hell, it’s on me,” Marshall said. “They needed to have a better understanding of what the situation was.”

More news, notes and quotes:

– Remember when Thomas Howard said during training camp that the Raiders were going to blitz because he could see it in Marshall’s eyes?

Marshall said the Raiders called five blitzes against San Diego. One was negated by penalty and two came on San Diego running plays. He admitted he’s not much of “pressure” coordinator, anyway, just like every other coordinator who has worked for Al Davis.

“I know there are some pressure coaches,” Marshall said. “That’s what they do. That’s their scheme, pressure. If you don’t have to pressure and you’ve got the coverage people and the upfront people to do it, then why, other than a change up, why put yourself in that position where somebody could get a big play?”

Given a do-over, Marshall said he wouldn’t be of a mind to dial up a few blitzes on San Diego’s last drive.

“I’d have to say no right now, even looking back on it,” Marshall said. “I would have done some things differently that I won’t mention to you in that last drive. But up until that time we felt pretty confident.”

– Marshall said Richard Seymour’s presence elevated the performance of the entire defense, and cited the five-time Pro Bowler’s bookwork and professionalism in getting ready for the game.

“It’s not like Richard came in here, and we drew it on the board and he went and made a sandwich and went to bed,” Marshall said. “He didn’t. He studied. He and (defensive line coach Dwaine Board) spent probably, oh, I’d say, six seven hours between the two days they were in watching film, and he did a lot of film watching on his own.”

– Guessing the legion of armchair defensive coordinators want no part of Nnamdi Asomugha as a future defensive coordinator. This was his response when asked if the “prevent mode” referred to by Cable against San Diego was a mistake:

“No, no, no, that’s what was needed. Our underneath coverage, maybe we got a little further deep than we probably should have, but, no, that’s how we needed to play in that situation.”

Asomugha said the touchdown surrendered to Vincent Jackson came with a good fake and a back-shoulder fade, noting, “We thought Stan (Stanford Routt) was going to get a hand on it, I guess it was just outside of him.”

– Justin Fargas is back at practice and said he was ready for any role the Raiders had in store for him. Michael Bush isn’t sure as well. All he knows for sure is Darren McFadden is the lead back.

“I heard in the press conference earlier there’s only two primary backs or something, “Bush said. “You never know what will happen. It’s like when I had to wait my turn last year. I don’t know if I have to take a step back and let him get back in or what. I’ll just play it by ear and go with the punches.”

– Defensive end Richard Seymour credited his coaches and teammates for getting him in the right position during the loss to San Diego.

“The coaching staff got me ready to play in less than 48 hours and even while we were on the field, my teammates helped me get lined up, told me where I was supposed to do, what I was supposed to do,” Seymour said. “I have to get adjusted to the terminology that we have here . . . I still have a lot to learn but I’m eager to do it.”

He said he didn’t worry about any stories about what life with the Raiders would be like.

“I try not to judge a situation before I come into it,” Seymour said. “That’s just like when I watch a movie. Somebody says it’s bad, you may like it. I just came into the situation and like I said, I had a lot of issues bigger than football at that time but the guys have been made my transition very easy.”

– With Johnnie Lee Higgins out of practice again, it appears Hiram Eugene will return punts for the first time in the NFL. He said he last returned punts at Louisiana Tech.

“I always joke around with (coach Cable) about returning punts or kickoffs,” Eugene said. “Now I get the opportunity. I’ve got to step up and show what I can do.”

– Defensive end Greg Ellis was limited in pracitce with a sore shoulder but will play, Cable said. Wide receivers Chaz Schilens (broken metacarpal) and Nick Miller (broken bone below shin) are out and did not practice.l

– The way the bandwagon is rolling, you’d think the Raiders actually beat the Chargers instead of the other way around.

Even Marty Schottenheimer doesn’t give the Chiefs much of a chance Sunday.

“I’m also going with the Raiders. Right now there’s just too much that has to get done with Kansas City for them to be able to compete even with the Raiders,” Schottenheimer said on Sirius Satellite Radio.“ I think the Raiders gave evidence the other night that maybe they’ve got some positive things going for them.”

Rich Gannon, not one to hold his tongue regarding his former team, agreed with Schottenheimer.

“I think newly acquired Richard Seymour will continue to have an impact once again and I think the difference in this game is going to be Oakland’s ability to run the football,” Gannon said. “I think that will be the difference. I’m going to take the Raiders on the road.”

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  • Thec07

    Pete, If you did use access you may want to consider moving to a SQL, or Oracle database…

    MYSQL is open source as of right now, but with oracle buying sun, not sure how much longer it is going to last.

  • RaiderLen

    Rack -O-Lamb,

    You are ONE hell of a Troll. Nice Post.

    By the way the “obvious” has left your building a long time ago. Ha!

  • Richochet

    Len?
    Retire?

    “I’LL RETIRE WHEN THE RAIDERS WIN TWO MORE SUPER BOWL’S”

    48 more years of this?
    Damn

  • RaiderLen

    Rack-O-Lamb,

    If You live another 48 years, and extrapolate it…The Raiders should appear in 5 SuperBowls and Win 3.

    There Ya go!

    That’s as far as my math skills will take me.

    If You only live another 24Yrs, then I guess by the law of averages You could divide my calculations in half.

    And so on etc…

  • Mistabrown

    There is no excuse for this! 30 years in the league give me a FKN break! Marshall you sent those LB’s into soft coverage they didn’t do that on instincts!

    “Hell, it’s on me,” Marshall said. “They needed to have a better understanding of what the situation was,” Marshall said.

  • Mistabrown

    Oakglen, you are still here posting after you said you didnt call Sanchez a bust ?

    # Oakglenn Says:
    June 8th, 2009 at 6:31 pm

    Mark Sanchez is a bust. Now we won’t know that for three years, but I know now. That makes no sense. Unless, you’re a moron

  • Mistabrown

    Oakglen, by your own admission all you have is half a brain.

    Oakglenn Says:
    June 8th, 2009 at 12:28 pm

    Anyone with half a brain can see that Jamarcus Russell is a bonafide franchise Q.

  • RaiderLen

    Mistabrown,

    Callin out Oakglenn. Lookin for a fight.

    Hatfield and McCoy?

    LOL

  • Richochet

    Norco..I tried..really, I did.
    I haven’t given up, but in this case..
    ———————
    RaiderLen Says:
    September 17th, 2009 at 7:55 pm
    Evening Nation,

    I’m reading that DHB is a DECOY. I would suggest that if he is pulling the safety His way, drawing double coverage…He is veiwed as as a THREAT.

    It’s 11 on 11.If a Rookie commands a double team to free up others…then at this point He has done His Job.

    As Dell said in an earlier post, He Can become “Cliff Branch Like.”

    DHB will catch His fair share of passes. The Raiders are willing to let Him learn on the fly, because He ALREADY serves a usefull purpose to the Entire Offense.
    ===============================
    He’s done his job??

    Cool!!!.

    Wait..let me check something.
    Hey..with all of Jerry Rice’s accolades for being the best WR in the NFL??

    HE DOESN’T OWN THE RECORD FOR “DECOY”.

    I wonder..when was the last time someone jumped up and down, screaming a players name yelling “DECOY….RAAAAAAIIIDERRRRRRRRS”?

    Escapes me at the moment.

    (in other words, I call FOUL on the “doing his job” bit. Of all the stats that a receiver can strive for, decoy isn’t anywhere to be found. Maybe catching a ball..now and again?
    Yay?
    Nay?

    What the Bey?

  • jhill

    on my way vegas .. 9:30ish

  • Mistabrown

    Len, if he could put up a fight that would be the case. So its just just a poke in the eye at this point..

  • RaiderLen

    Nice try Rack-O-Lamb.

    LOL…:)

  • Mistabrown

    Richochet you have no self control in regard to 8×12 post of pure nonsense do you ?

  • raideralex99

    OMFG … PFT pick the Raiders … check what they said we DON”T have a QB … see people are starting to notice … it’s only a matter of time before the other half of the Raider nation see it too.

    Raiders (0-1) at Chiefs (0-1)

    1 p.m. ET, CBS

    This is the battle the plucky also-rans who almost pulled off Week 1 stunners, only to lose in the end.

    The Raiders actually looked like a complete football team on Monday night against the Chargers, except they don’t have a quarterback. The Chiefs have one, but they aren’t sure if Matt Cassel will be ready to start after missing the opener. And they don’t have much else.

    Oakland’s offensive line and running game is the best thing either team in this game has going. Even though the smart money is on Cassel playing and the Chiefs finding a way to win at Arrowhead, no one ever accused us of being smart. We’ve got Tom Cable fever.

    Pick: Raiders 24, Chiefs 21

  • http://RAIDERS Oakglenn

    missed-a-brain you back after embarrassing yourself again?? This should be rich. Keep talking you’re sure to start embarrassing yourself any second.

  • Mistabrown

    Oakglen, do you ever log off this blog?

  • http://RAIDERS Oakglenn

    missed-as-brain you back with the same tired idiotic rant that you posted two days ago, when you were promising an earth shattering post, and you got once again, as usual, run off the blog?? No one cares what you think. You aren’t living in the dark ages, the wheel hasn’t been invented in the world you live in.

  • http://blstb.msn.com/i/55/90A2853B6CFBCC2AFC987BB18B832.jpg vegas raider

    jhill Says:
    September 17th, 2009 at 8:49 pm
    on my way vegas .. 9:30ish

    *************************

    All right, was about to throw in the towel on you

  • Mistabrown

    Why dont you explain how I embarrassed myself..

    Recap:
    You said you didnt call Sanchez a bust.
    Recap:
    I post you saying exactly that

    Delusional is your middle name ?

  • RaiderLen

    Question…

    Oakglenn and Mista

    Who wants to be Hatfield?

    Who wants to be McCoy?

    You Guys are hilarious.

    Does familiarity really breed contempt?

  • Mistabrown

    # Oakglenn Says:
    June 8th, 2009 at 6:31 pm

    Mark Sanchez is a bust. Now we won’t know that for three years, but I know now. That makes no sense. Unless, you’re a moron.

    *****************************************

    # Oakglenn Says:
    September 13th, 2009 at 9:36 pm

    Why don’t you go find it?? I never said it. You are a complete idiotic liar. Until you find that statement, expect this post to follow each and ever one of your posts. Liar.

  • Mistabrown

    Oakglen, which side of your brain is malfunctioning?

  • Mistabrown

    Once again Im not saying Sanchez is a bust or not.

    Im jus pointing out you are a compulsive liar & sociopath.

    Apparently even you cant wrap your little brain around that. I could care less about Sanchez or what he did last week or the next 15 weeks…U are a dyk brained loser thats the only point here.

    Keep posting nonsense..

  • Richochet

    RaiderLen Says:
    September 17th, 2009 at 8:47 pm
    Mistabrown,

    Callin out Oakglenn. Lookin for a fight.

    Hatfield and McCoy?

    LOL
    =========
    OakGlenn?
    Oakglenn fight?

    If you call swinging your purse, and wagging your finger, with hand on hip, saying ‘OH NO YOU DON’T’..then Oakglen is your girl.

  • Mistabrown

    Look at you calling me stupid when Sanchez is not even the issue here. The issue here is you talk out your ass hole and then call others stupid when they prove you are a liar.

    Who raised you a chimpanzee ?

  • Richochet

    Mistabrown Says:
    September 17th, 2009 at 9:06 pm
    Oakglen, which side of your brain is malfunctioning?
    ===================
    You have evidence that one side IS functioning?

  • http://RAIDERS Oakglenn

    # Mistabrown Says:
    September 17th, 2009 at 9:03 pm

    Why dont you explain how I embarrassed myself..

    Recap:
    You said you didnt call Sanchez a bust.
    Recap:
    I post you saying exactly that

    Delusional is your middle name ?
    ==============================================

    You think one start proves he is not a bust. YOU ARE COMPLETELY DELUSIONAL. What is he going to do missed-a-brain, retire right now?? Live off his one game laurels??? You are sooooo stupid. LMAO.

  • Richochet

    Mistabrown Says:
    September 17th, 2009 at 8:51 pm
    Richochet you have no self control in regard to 8×12 post of pure nonsense do you ?
    ————
    You and I are both aware you are the one sentence wonder. I can respect that.

    Like it or not, debates don’t last one sentence.
    Movies aren’t 3 minutes long.
    Wars aren’t won in 2 jabs, and a massive nag fest, Oakgleens whimpering notwithstanding.

    Wait.

    What were we talking about? :)

  • http://RAIDERS Oakglenn

    How bout them Browns missed-a-brain. You said they would be a thorn in their division. They won one game. You don’t believe in global warming. You think Farve sucks even tho he holds every passing record in the NFL. You think the world is flat. And that is just in the last couple of days. Anything I am missing here??

  • RaiderLen

    How Bout Them Raiders!

    (With Richard Seymour)

    Cough Cough

  • Mistabrown

    Oakglen, Im not ignorant enough to say Sanchez is a bust after just 1 game or even 16 games. You however are just that ignorant to do that before even the pre-season started. And yet here you are calling me dumb…lmao

    # Oakglenn Says:
    June 8th, 2009 at 6:31 pm

    Mark Sanchez is a bust. Now we won’t know that for three years, but I know now. That makes no sense. Unless, you’re a moron.

  • http://RAIDERS Oakglenn

    Oh please rack. Joining forces with missed-a-brain? What is this the vomit and dog sheeit show?

  • http://RAIDERS Oakglenn

    Len is right Dud. Go Try out. Like I posted a day or so ago, anyone can be an NFL Q in your minds. Go do it. You too can make tens of millions and dollars, pull tons of tail and you can quit your job shortchanging trustful old ladies at the coffee shop where you are a barista.

  • Dude

    I would be really hopeful if there was an NFL QB on the roster.

  • Mistabrown

    Oakglen comes in here day after day and gets made a fool of or a liar, or both. And he returns as if it never happened calling everybody stupid.

    I’ve never seen an individual in such a mess or denial in my life. Easily the most disturbing pathetic individual walking the earth!

  • RaiderLen

    Dude, give AL a call. Show off Your skills.

    You can convince Him. You can Be the QB, or Tell Him who Should be.

    You are the Man. Otherwise You wouldn’t be DUDE.

    Dude…Get It Done.

  • http://RAIDERS Oakglenn

    hahahahaha. missed-a-brain, that comment about Sanchez I am RIDICULING YOU!!! You didn’t get it then, and you don’t get it now!! ROFLMAO!

  • Mistabrown

    Speaking of NFL Qb’s. Here is a beauty from the worlds worst GM in history!

    Oakglen, do you want to defend this brilliance ?

    Oakglenn Says:
    June 8th, 2009 at 12:28 pm

    Anyone with half a brain can see that Jamarcus Russell is a bonafide franchise Q.

  • Dude

    Russell a franchise Q? What franchise? McDonalds? Dunkin Donuts??

  • Raider-DEE

    The 2 guys I will be watching closely this weekend is Russell and DHB……

    The Jury is out on both of them…

    They should try to help each other out and try to come in for the BIG win at K.C…

    DHB saying that he “had a solid game” vs the Chargers was a joke!! Right??

  • http://RAIDERS Oakglenn

    missed-a-brain, you come onto this site every day looking for someone to fight with. I send you packing each and every time. You are disturbed and bitter. The problem with you is you have an extreme deficiency of brain power. don’t go away angry and bitter, just go away! And take up a new hobby. Try stamp collecting. There is hardly any thinking involved.

  • Dude

    Oak,

    How is Sanchez a bust?

  • http://RAIDERS Oakglenn

    You can’t tie your own shoes. Some one has to help you. Why would I talk to you?? Answer that.

  • Mistabrown

    LMAO @ 142

  • Mistabrown

    Dude I guess you dont have half a brain. Only Oakglen and his half a brain can see that!

  • Richochet

    Oakglenn Says:
    June 8th, 2009 at 12:28 pm

    Anyone with half a brain can see that Jamarcus Russell is a bonafide franchise Q.
    =========
    Oh damn..you did say that, didn’t you?
    For that alone you get the board penalty of having to write, 100 times, “I am dumber than cotton”..then you have to apologize to every cotton ball out there.

    Hey, don’t blame me. I don’t make the rules.

  • RaiderLen

    Everyone will learn something about Jamarcus this season.

    Most importantly…THE COACHES.

    As an observer, I’m willing to withhold “judgment” for this season and next.

    I’m an optimist. :)

  • Mistabrown

    Oakglen,
    Im going to logoff and get some shut eye. Dont forget tomorrow to tell me how “you ran me off the blog” last night!

    lmao

  • http://RAIDERS Oakglenn

    Looks like the lowest forms of life have all banded together on the blog. Funny how that happens. Dud steals from old woman, and missed-a-brain wallows in the gutter looking up rack-ettes skirt. Between the three of you I’ll put my life savings we don’t have a triple digit IQ three of you combined!

  • Dude

    Sure looked good on Monday didnt he. Single handedly lost the game.