Postgame wrap
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Sunday, September 20th, 2009 at 6:43 pm in Oakland Raiders.
News, notes and observations from the Raiders’ 13-10 win over the Chiefs Sunday at Arrowhead Stadium:
– The Raiders don’t win games like this. The Raiders lose games like this.
They had reason to feel good about many aspects of their play in their Week 1 loss to the San Diego Chargers, and maybe even be a little embarrassed about how they went about their win in Week 2.
Bottom line, they’re 1-1 going into Week 3 against Denver and had every reason to get on the plane and get out of Kansas City as soon as possible to celebrate their good fortune before a replay official determined Darren McFadden hadn’t actually scored on a 5-yard run to win the game.
– By the way, that’s the “first-place” Denver Broncos coming into the Coliseum. Denver beat Cleveland easily after getting a fluke win in Week 1.
– If you want iron-clad evidence that turnover ratio is the most important stat in football, look no further than the Raiders-Chiefs game book. Chiefs 2, Raiders 0.
– The Chiefs finished with 409 yards, in part because of a Raiders offense that went three-and-out six times and kept putting them back on the field.
The Raiders, who needed 69 yards on their last drive to break 100 and finish with 166, have played 60 games since they last gained 400 yards in total offense.
Kansas City out-statted the Raiders pretty much everywhere it counted except turnovers, with the Raiders getting a pair of interceptions from Michael Huff and not turning the ball over.
It didn’t count as a turnover, but the Chiefs made a third egregious error late in the first half when Dantrell Savage was tackled inbounds by Nnamdi Asomugha with five seconds to go before halftime and the Chiefs failing to get even a field goal attempt.
– Nineteen-for-54 would be a hell of a batting average for Ichiro at .352, but it’s unacceptable for an NFL starting quarterback at 35.2 percent. Yet somehow, just as JaMarcus Russell came through with a fourth-and-14 touchdown pass against San Diego, he completed four passes on Oakland’s final drive after completing three up to that point.
Coach Tom Cable told reporters it was “as poor as you can play offensively and still win the game” but never considered changing quarterbacks.
Russell told reporters at the podium following the game he never feared getting the hook.
“I know that I am the guy. With the three and outs, that is something that we are doing to ourselves,” Russell said. “We went on the sidelines and chalked things up and tried to take it from there. I never once worried about coach taking me out.”
– At Arrowhead, Sebastian Janikowski is every bit the kicker Al Davis envisioned when he made him a first round draft pick in 2002. Once upon a time, Janikowski had his first field goal attempt (from 44 yards) blocked by the Chiefs Derrick Ransom as a rookie in 2002.
He hasn’t missed since. Janikowski is 17-for-18 on field goal attempts at Arrowhead, including conversions from 48 and 54 yards against the Chiefs Sunday. In 2007, he connected from 54 yards, last season he was good from 56. The Raiders have won each of those games.
Janikowski also forced a touchback after Darren McFadden’s 5-yard run.
– Cable said the fractured fibula suffered by left guard Gallery appeared to be similar to the one that kept Khalif Barnes out four to six weeks but conceded he didn’t yet have a definitive prognosis regarding how long Gallery would be out.
When Gallery departed, Chris Morris moved to left guard and Samson Satele played center. Cable talked during the week of having Khalif Barnes get some work at guard, although it didn’t happen. Gallery’s injury ought to hasten that development.
– Todd Watkins is in the books and it couldn’t have come at a better time.
The Raiders had reached the Chiefs 37 with a third-and-10 when Cornell Green was called for a false start, pushing them back to the 42. It was then that Russell threw a 28-yard strike to Watkins, the Raiders biggest offensive play of the game. Watkins described it afterward as “like a dream.”
Rookie Darrius Heyward-Bey also had his first catch, an 18-yard reception in the first quarter. He was targeted six times.
In two games, Russell has completed 7 of 33 passes to wide receivers.
– McFadden got to the edge and the winning touchdown, but did nothing to dispel the notion that he goes down too easily on occasion. He still hasn’t proven himself as an NFL runner who can flourish both inside and outside. Russell’s attempts at short passes to backs were at times so awful McFadden wasn’t able to produce in that area, either.
– Michael Huff, going from draft bust to defensive mainstay in the last two weeks, credited heavy film study for his big game against the Chiefs.
“It has to go back to studying film. We put in extra work this week,” Huff said. “Nnamdi is a defensive leader and he held an extra meeting for the DBs that was an hour, two hours after everybody else. He is a great leader and he had us watching film so we knew the offense well. Especially when you get pass rush from the front four, it makes playing in the secondary a lot easier.”
Chiefs running back Larry Johnson sounded a lot like the Raiders players did last week against the Chargers.
“Our spirits were so high in the last two minutes of the game and then were certainly crushed at the end,” Johnson said.
Chiefs coach Todd Haley’s interview transcription could have been utilized by any one of several Raiders coaches over the past several years.
“We’re going to have a smart team here. Nine penalties and a couple of those things don’t reflect a smart team so we’re going to get back to work,” Haley said. “We work too hard at it and put too much time into it to not. That’s what I take out of this game.”
Quotes furnished by Kansas City Chiefs public relations staff
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September 20th, 2009 at 6:40 pm
wow
September 20th, 2009 at 6:48 pm
What Lynn Said!
September 20th, 2009 at 6:49 pm
JR keeps this crap up and he’ll be riding the bench soon. Makes me wonder how good this offense good be with a QB that could hit his targets.
Looks like Huff is determined to remove that “bust” label.
September 20th, 2009 at 6:50 pm
Ugliest win I think I’ve ever witnessed.
September 20th, 2009 at 6:51 pm
JR should’ve been benched. No excuse for a starting NFL QB to have those kind of stats. That’s beyond mediocre.
September 20th, 2009 at 6:52 pm
Hey JR came through when he needed to and we got WIN THATS ALL THAT MATTERS!! so I am happy for for the rest of week and ill be at the Stadium this weekend cheering for the raiders to win against the Donkeys…
September 20th, 2009 at 6:53 pm
It was an ugly… ugly win. Russell needs to work on his accuracy big time. Mcfadden choked this game with the exception of the last drive. However… our lines are looking much better then last year… we got pressure on cassell with a couple of sacks… just imagine what we could’ve done with a safety blitz!!! Where is Mitchell anyways?!? Gallery being out will hurt us but if Barnes can step up we should be ok… it’s a good thing we have such a depth at the RB position so days like this with Mcfadden won’t kill us… my biggest surprise of the game… WTF with not targeting Miller more often?!? And not one reverse the entire game!!! We need to use DHB somehow damn!
September 20th, 2009 at 6:53 pm
More film study i exactly what Russell and his mates need to get better. DMC relyies to much on his speed he needs to run in a way to defeat the angles. If you watch AP run he moves the defense so that they have bad angles. Even Bush runs that way better than DMC I thought he was ging to get tackld on that play becaus he gavethe defender the angle he just missed. He has to run wider an the plant and cut it up.
Louis Rankin is very good at this, it allows you to square up your shoulders for more power. First rn wide, plant and cut upfield. DMC runs at an angle which gives the defense the advantage.
September 20th, 2009 at 6:56 pm
Maybe JR should get benched to send him a message. His attitude, as expressed in this Wrap-up indicates that JR doesn’t get it. NOBODY is un-replacable. Maybe he should have a little fear of getting benched. A little more attention to detail and humility could go a long way. He literally, is the worst starting QB in the NFL. That’s nothing to be proud of JR. The guaranteed money won’t last forever. What do you do then?
September 20th, 2009 at 7:01 pm
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September 20th, 2009 at 7:01 pm
It’s still a W… how long has it been since we were .500? Can’t complain as long as we woop on the donkeys next week…
September 20th, 2009 at 7:03 pm
At least it was a win!
JR looked like crap (big change there) but he got it done when he needed to. If his accuracy wasn’t so freeking irratic this team would be able to roll.
Lets just hope Gallery can get back quickly. The OL is not looking good and JR needs every bit of time he can get back there.
Any updates on Chaz?
September 20th, 2009 at 7:04 pm
yup ugly win …. but it’s better than a moral victory any day.
Morrison is not an instinctive player. I hope we go nickel every down and put mitchell as the extra db.
September 20th, 2009 at 7:06 pm
Todd Haley coached like a rookie coach today. The more seasoned, lol, Tom Cable got us the W today, though our own offensive play-calling was dubious.
September 20th, 2009 at 7:06 pm
JB, do you really think he’s proud to be called the worst starting QB in the NFL? Which I doubt very seriously is true but d you really think he’s proud of that effort?
If you’re tryng to make someone look ridiculous don’t be ridiculous yourself.
September 20th, 2009 at 7:07 pm
That’s right Huff earn that respect. Now keep it going. Kyle can give you a pro bowl bid all by himself. The man has accuracy like J-Mac. Ugh
September 20th, 2009 at 7:09 pm
Dallas blitzes and gets burned, another blitz that cost a TD. But in here the best way to play defense is to blitz.
September 20th, 2009 at 7:10 pm
congrats to huff glad to see him living up to his draft selection
September 20th, 2009 at 7:10 pm
Honestly, McFadden didn’t really play all that bad. He was going against 8 and 9 man fronts most of his runs. This will lighten up when Jamarcus proves he can beat the opposition with the pass. Even in saying all of that though, Bush looks way more effective running in between the tackles.
September 20th, 2009 at 7:12 pm
Jamarcus was awful, there’s no escaping that. McFadden is living up to his critics assessment that he goes down on first contact, but he did make a nice move on the goaline play and showed some good leg power when he highstepped while cutting to make the defender miss. DMAC may need a year to figure out how to best use his speed while maintaining his balance. He’s got the skills he just needs to show a little more patience.
At this stage Bush should start and DMAC should be on the field with him a lot in single back sets.
The defense was outstanding, with the exception of Stanford Routt – he reminds me of Nnamdi in his third year, right there but doesn’t get his head turned around in time – hopefully he takes the last step in his development, but running this man defense we can’t afford injuries.
As I said before, Ellis and Seymour will prove to be the difference in stopping the run. The running lanes are totally compressed because they hold the edges and they are making huge plays in the passing game. Huff, Johnson, Eugene, and Branch are all making plays in the secondary and the d line is helping our LB’s make tackles closer to the line of scrimmage.
All that’s left is the offense – with any type of Gradkowski-esque performance from the QB, along with Chaz coming back from injury, this offense will be much better because a decent QB with moderate accuracy would destroy the 8/9 in the box fronts we’re seeing most 1st and 2nd down plays.
I am a JaMarcus supporter and have been since we drafted him (prior to that I wanted Calvin Johnson in RD 1 and Trent Edwards in RD 2), but there’s no excuse for him to look like a raw rookie. JaMarcus needs to step up – he looks tenative and he’s aiming the ball too much – when he cuts it loose he’s much better.
Cable needs to get DHB off the field as a starter once Chaz gets back. Murphy is clearly the better player and he has shown the speed to get deep anyway. Chaz ran a 4.38 40 so he’s no slouch either. .08 secs shouldn’t matter. In the interim DHB needs some bubble screens, hitches, hooks, and pick plays designed for him so we can get him in space out of the slot.
Cable is going to need to find some way to get the defense out of 8/9 in the box, so once chaz comes back we need to run some single back spread offense looks.
All in all, this season is on JaMarcus, the supporting cast is there.
September 20th, 2009 at 7:13 pm
jmac is garbage time to sit his ass our d is playin good but jruss is gonna get em tired 3 and out 3 and out 3 and out
September 20th, 2009 at 7:14 pm
Huff might get 7 picks and a Pro Bowl alternate nomination. A little more pass-rush is helping our DB’s out a lot. Except of course for Stanford Routt.
September 20th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
Raiders soften up the dischargers for bmore. dischargers are in big trouble. I told you guys before the season started they had a weak oline, and could not stop the run.
they are so pathetic that after the loss they pick up a player…. Alfonso Boone, dl cut by KC
2009-2010 Raiders Improbable….
September 20th, 2009 at 7:16 pm
Vegas,
I am so tired of Routt. At this moment, I’d take Bowie over Routt any day.
September 20th, 2009 at 7:18 pm
priest thats a good breakdown of dmc. he does need to do a better job of setting up the defenders. he tries to out run everybody instead of making it hard for them to get a proper angle on him. he couldve had a td last week instead of that shoestring tackle if he took another step out wide and then plant n cut like u said. u ladanian do that all the time.
September 20th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
Bowie really couldn’t be any worse. Might as well see what you have.
September 20th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
Everything points to the main problem being Russell not throwing the ball properly. It’s not the reads, it’s not how quickly he gets rid of the ball, it’s not his footwork as much as he just can’t throw the ball correctly. If he could throw the ball off his hand consistently correctly, the other stuff you could live with. But somehow they have to get him throwing the ball consistently in the proper manner. If he did that his completion percentage would jump. OK, he has different receivers all the time, but throwing the ball into the ground, overthrowing an open man, wobbly passes, or whatever; if he could just get it to come off his hand right, things would work out. Can he do it? Who knows? He’s been a quarterback long enough to get that down and he hasn’t so far.
September 20th, 2009 at 7:24 pm
Richard, he can’t even throw a screen for crying out loud. What the hell is his problem i wonder.
September 20th, 2009 at 7:24 pm
If we’re going to have a competent offense both Russell and DMC have got to get much better………period
Screens are all timing and their timing is way off which is why I said those two and the WR’s need to spend a lot more time together. Before and after practice just to get familiar with each other.
Russell get it done damn it. That screen alone could make all the difference in the world.
September 20th, 2009 at 7:26 pm
I would rather have Jr not complete any passes and come up with a game winning drive than put in a phillip rivers type game and lose
September 20th, 2009 at 7:27 pm
I would also rather have a 2-0 win with no 1st downs than a 07 patriots type score and lose a win is a win stop complaining and bowie was in the game when nnamdi first came out and he didn’t give up a td
September 20th, 2009 at 7:27 pm
bush did that on his td run which allowed him to shoot thru that tight hole and lower himself in for the td. hopefully he will learn that from film study.
September 20th, 2009 at 7:27 pm
it’s funny to hear so many say, no worries we still got the win. I doubt we will be able to say that when we face the tougher teams later this year, but hey, its like Russell and Cable both said, there was never any thought of benching Russell so if you only complete 7 passes, no big loss rite? If your top rookie draft pick makes one catch in 2 games, no worries, we are .500, lol
September 20th, 2009 at 7:29 pm
Ugly win. Jamarcus needs to be more consistent, seems like he’s taking this whole NFL QB thing too lightly. He needs more reps with his receivers to develop some chemistry (how did this not materialize in training camp?) Huff finally playing like a a first rounder, let’s see how long it lasts. Linebackers still playing a little too deep in 2nd/3rd and long situations and allow too many big gains on screens/underneath dump-offs.
Really seems like Cable is giving up too quickly on the run. We’re trying to run McFadden inside the tackles too much, he needs to run outside/sweeps and pick up his damn feet so he stops getting so easily tackled. More Bush and Fargas up the middle, McFadden for the off tackles/sweeps and third down passing situations.
Bring on Denver. Predicting a big game from Seymour and hopefully we get on track and cram the football down their throat with the run.
September 20th, 2009 at 7:29 pm
what ever happened to those chants of Walker being the comeback player of the year? How many catches/td’s he have so far this season?
September 20th, 2009 at 7:30 pm
Today is a good sign, instead of imploding on what could have been a demoralizing day, our Raiders figured out how to win ugly.
Kudos to the D, they came up big today, and all I can say is wow, where in heck di Huff come from!! Great job today!
A common theme from the first two weeks, the Raiders are better athletes, and when the effort is applied they force the other team into mistakes.
JR had a tough day, that`s obvious, I just hope he realizes that what you put in, is what you get out, and it`s becoming glaringly obvious he didn`t do what was necessary this off season, and he`s going to have to play catch up. Let`s hope he`s caught up by next weekend against the donks at home.
Bush is a stud! NOTE to Cable, run Bush between the tackles, and let DMC burn the opposing defense to the corner. It`s the recipe for success.
Today`s gameball has to go to the entire Raider D, with special mention to Huff, but you have to give it up for Special Teams, Janikowski had a fantastic day, 4 touchbacks and a 48 and 54, or something like that. Great day, not to mention Lechler with the big 70 yard punt.
We can`t get Schillens back soon enough.
And what is going on with Javon Walker, does Cable not like him…
September 20th, 2009 at 7:31 pm
Madden has chinese eyes. Not that there is anything wrong with that.
Games at Blechers was cool.
Oregon
September 20th, 2009 at 7:33 pm
Jamarcus’ best two passes, were his last two passes.
Cable went and grabbed him on the bench and said something to him. I guess we hold our breath and see what we get next week. A win and we could conceivably be in first place.
September 20th, 2009 at 7:38 pm
man, what a fugly game. i know you can tie in football, but really, it was almost like we won only cause someone had to win.
russell… come on man, it’s not like he’s missing by a little or that his guys have the dropsies. he’s way off. he keeps pulling these late game last drive plays out of his butt, but really, what does that actually say about his ability and about his long terrm growth? sue he can point to the fact that he had the team in place to win both games and ultimately, that’s what you want is a win blah, blah, blah, but that’s not addressing the real issue.
someone please tell mcskinny to do some leg presses or something to tuffen up and not get tackled by air. all in all, bush looks more like the every-down back and mcskinny more like the change-of-pace back.
oh well, a win is a win ugly or not. bring on the denver glue.
September 20th, 2009 at 7:39 pm
Our first draft selection in 2010 needs to be a Qb. This fat dork is an embarrassment!
The end.
September 20th, 2009 at 7:40 pm
People would you rather JR pass for 200-400 yards and we lose the game or be lousy and still manage to win the game. Look at the rest of the results this week and you should realize that winning one week does not guarantee a w the following week.
September 20th, 2009 at 7:42 pm
Should DMAC run slower or faster Priest?
U friggin DUMBELL the timing is ALL on the QB not the RB. JaMeatball needs to put the ball on the money or go sit his fat a$$ down! Quit making excuses for Black Moses and leave DMAC the FK out of it!
priesttj Says:
September 20th, 2009 at 7:24 pm
If we’re going to have a competent offense both Russell and DMC have got to get much better………period
September 20th, 2009 at 7:45 pm
“I know that I am the guy. With the three and outs, that is something that we are doing to ourselves,” Russell said. “We went on the sidelines and chalked things up and tried to take it from there. I never once worried about coach taking me out.”
hahahaha! ” With the three oand outs that is something we are doing to ourselves” bro you mean “yourself” because all the blame goes on you for not converting on 3rd down. five consecutive possessions with 5 consecutive three and outs is unacceptable, its also a slap in the face to the def. because the last 2 games not the team, JAMARCUS been goin 3 and out with his atrocious accuracy.any offense will have 400+ yards with the time the chiefs had. i feel for the defense and they got to be hella tired after these 2 games. idnt blame aso or eugene for leaving this game due to dehydration or cramps, asomugha was on the field all the time. jamarcus needs to start convertin because if he doesnt then its gonna be another game for the defense next week. jamarcus needs to step up NOW!
September 20th, 2009 at 7:45 pm
i’m beginning to think a ball thrown by Russell is hard to catch period. the way it zips out of his hand can easily mess with your hand eye coordination. i mean, even the defense backs have a hard time intercepting them. i saw maybe, 2 or 3 passes that were easy picks. we need to go retro and start lathering our wideouts with stickkum.
September 20th, 2009 at 7:46 pm
And for those saying russell is the worst starting qb quinn is bad and he doesn’t have a win yet andstafford has calvin johnson but is throwing int like crazy
September 20th, 2009 at 7:46 pm
Russell sucks mightily!
But the win is nice.
By the way, in case you missed it…
RUSSELL SUCKS!
Gallery injury sets this team back big-time. This team is snakebit when it comes to lineman.
September 20th, 2009 at 7:49 pm
he actually has gotten better throwing screens except that first one. lets be honest teams are attacking the line cuz they dont respect his passing and they want to stop the run. the chiefs played the screen well a couple of times. dorsey had a good angle as he rushed jr. vrabel didnt bother going for the playfake. this will stop when he shows he can pass effeciently. nobody is going to respect him until he does something about it. the word is out now so expect some of these simple screens to be defended better until he beats teams up and down the field.
September 20th, 2009 at 7:51 pm
Yes Russell sucks. His accurracy is balls. He looks like a refrigerator with a cannon strapped on it. But, uhh, how bout that last drive!?!?! I’ll take the win. JRoc bought himself another week. Let’s just worry about stomping out some donkey meat next week. mkay?
September 20th, 2009 at 7:52 pm
Russell did horrible through the 1st 58 min I admit that but there is no way he sucks how do you suck when you lead your team to a td with the game on the line and in th 1st he was good in the 1st and 4th quarters there is something going on I don’t know what but if you can go on a 2 min drill complete passes and get a td then there is a reason he isn’t doing it earlier in the game he is able to throw accurate balls he showed that at the end of the game so why can’t he do it the whole game
September 20th, 2009 at 7:52 pm
I have never been so scared of the Raiders Qb as when Russell drops back to pass . He could easily have 3 INT’s that hit the hands of defenders on top of his krap accuracy!
A win despite your #1 pick in his 3rd year is horse sh|t and only a few koolaid drinkers in here with their head in their anus are making excuses for this a$$ clown!
The 3 brain deads that have luv for JaMeatball:
-priest
-koolkell
-oakglenn
The 3 stooges!
September 20th, 2009 at 7:55 pm
Tom Cable doesn’t know how to call plays.
We ran one misdirection the entire game. It went for a touchdown. We should run a least two misdirection plays per half.
Bush should be the starting running back. McFadden should be the third down, Charlie Garner type back.
Jamarcus Russell should be the starting right guard.
September 20th, 2009 at 7:55 pm
DHB & JaMeatball need to go sit down and think about their actions!
Javon is either not 100% and they need a body out there, or he is on his way out when Miller & Schilens return.
September 20th, 2009 at 7:58 pm
mistabrown is a Brown fan. he’s a troll. The End.
September 20th, 2009 at 7:58 pm
I think once (or if ever) we get our passing game going McFadden would give us the most productivity on offense. Since we can only really rely on the run right now, I agree that Bush should start / get bulk of carries.
September 20th, 2009 at 8:01 pm
Its amazing we have any run game at with 8/9 in the box. You people need to get off Cables back about his play calling….what is he supposed to do when the DEF has 8/9 in the box and your Qb lacks basic fundamentals! DMAC & Bush are both doing well JaMeatball is paralyzing the offense!
September 20th, 2009 at 8:02 pm
We could be using DMAC like how the dischargers use sproles. Screens dump offs and get him the ball in space. But it is tough to run against 8 and 9 man fronts, RB’s take a bigger pounding.
September 20th, 2009 at 8:04 pm
If walker is 100% he needs to get wacked, we dont need him…..
September 20th, 2009 at 8:06 pm
lol, russell the starting rg
September 20th, 2009 at 8:06 pm
Eli Manning sucks. He is not accurate and he has sucked for 5 years. You would think they would have enough sense to get a real QB in the draft.
PS thats Satire
September 20th, 2009 at 8:07 pm
Want to know EXACTLY WHAT YOUR PROBLEM IS??
The following comment from Russell:
““I know that I am the guy. With the three and outs, that is something that we are doing to ourselves,” Russell said. “We went on the sidelines and chalked things up and tried to take it from there. I never once worried about coach taking me out.””
HOW IN THE HELL CAN YOU PLAY LIKE HE HAS, and have the balls to state “Not worried. No problem. No big deal. I KNOW I AM THE GUY”??
WTF?? First off, shouldn’t a qb/player/ANYONE IN THE ORGANIZATION feel that they should always do their best/perform or they’ll be close to being on the hook?
Isn’t that what motivates players?
And here Russell casually states “NOT WORRIED”?
I can’t imagine any qb, on any team, who has all of the baggage that Russell has, who has back to back games in the 40’s for qb rating, who could actually state ‘never worried about getting yanked”.
He should be worried about performing, but he’s not.
He should be worried about being replaced, but he’s not.
He should be worried about DOING HIS FRIGGIN’ JOB THAT HE’S GETTING 32 PLUS MILLION GUARANTEED..but he’s NOT.
Someone told him “Don’t sweat it. You’re the starter. No one’s going to bench you. Any problems come see me”
Any idea who that person could be?
Anyone?
ANYONE DISAGREE THAT IT SHOULDN’T BE THAT WAY?
I mean..damnnnn..Cable has to feel 2″ tall reading that Russell never sweated him…not ONCE.
September 20th, 2009 at 8:07 pm
I’m wtching to supposedly great QB’s, miss wideopen recievers like crazy. Romo has thrown 3 int’s and Eli has been less than perfect. But they both have great running games.
It’s almost like the one that makes the least amount of mistakes will win. Romo just overthrew a WR directly to the DB. And these guy’s are considered great.
September 20th, 2009 at 8:07 pm
Gallery breaking his leg is very bad. The only good thing about that is fortunatley the offensive line played without him early in training camp.
September 20th, 2009 at 8:07 pm
Oakglen, how many screen names did you use today? At least 3 beisdes this one, right ?
If Im a Browns fan you are a Lions fan but I’m not even going to play your kid games..
Hows your bonafide Qb looking Oak ?
September 20th, 2009 at 8:08 pm
# Oakglenn Says:
June 8th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
Mark Sanchez is a bust. Now we won’t know that for three years, but I know now. That makes no sense. Unless, you’re a moron.
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# Oakglenn Says:
September 13th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
Why don’t you go find it?? I never said it. You are a complete idiotic liar. Until you find that statement, expect this post to follow each and ever one of your posts. Liar.
September 20th, 2009 at 8:09 pm
Oakglenn Says:
June 8th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
Anyone with half a brain can see that Jamarcus Russell is a bonafide franchise Q.
September 20th, 2009 at 8:12 pm
So far the only ones with half a brain that I know of are the following..
-Koolkell
-Priest
_Oakglen
If you are a JaMeatball supporter and want to be added to the list above just chime in and i’ll ad you to the list!
September 20th, 2009 at 8:16 pm
JaMarcus should buy meals for the defense the entire week for what he put them through today. Guys out there so long they crampin and ish. I mean if he can throw a freakin screen pass we could get by. Doug Flutie never got that many batted down in a game.
September 20th, 2009 at 8:16 pm
How bout dem Cleveland Browns mista?/ Oh right, they got blown out AGAIN. Go follow Brady Quinn. He’s your guy.
September 20th, 2009 at 8:17 pm
I know russells incomplete passes are annoying but at least he isn’t throwing picks
September 20th, 2009 at 8:18 pm
What’s happened to the Run game?
September 20th, 2009 at 8:19 pm
Russell’s inaccuracy is just plain ridiculous. Doesn’t he practice during camp? After three seasons and his college years. Come on! If I were him I would be worried about getting the hook and start putting extra hours practicing. Even in the off season I would work on hitting moving targets. something! I’m glad he snapped out of it for one drive. Did his lazy ass just think we were gonna win just as long as we kicked field goals?
September 20th, 2009 at 8:19 pm
# Mistabrown Says:
February 29th, 2008 at 10:31 pm
The Browns are going be a thorn in that division next year.
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No one cares about the Browns. Unless you are a browns fan. And you call yourself mistabrown the browns fan.
September 20th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
Oak, Lady Quinn is just lighting it up.
September 20th, 2009 at 8:23 pm
Oakglen,
I know you dont want to talk about your bonafide meatball Qb. It sucks when you win despite your franchise Qb doesnt it Oak?
I bet team moral is VERY low with this clown entrenched in the starting Qb spot. You just look like a derelict talking about the Cleveland Browns lmao @ you!
September 20th, 2009 at 8:23 pm
The issue with Russell is that he must keep progressing. Last year he played well in 5 of his last 7 starts. But he CANNOT regress. This year, he is seriously regressing. That CANNOT HAPPEN. And it is all on Russell. He does not look like he wants to be an NFL Q. He looks like he wants to wear bling, fight dogs and fook around. Hey, that’s fine. Do whatever you want. Just don’t do it here.
September 20th, 2009 at 8:24 pm
WE WON !
JR was the starter and we won the game. I don’t care if he sucks or not. Winning is how starting QB’S are judged. He Won !
Cable has won 3 of 4 games as head coach ! The players play for the guy. I like him. He Won !
Give JR and Cable a chance !
The last thing this team needs is a new head coach and a new QB.
Denver ! Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr . I hate Denver !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 20th, 2009 at 8:25 pm
Nobody cares about Quinn in here but you 2 buffoons.
September 20th, 2009 at 8:28 pm
Two things need to happen:
1. JaMarcus needs to spend 6 extra hours with Hackett and Tollner this week after practice.
2. Cable needs to fly down to Oxford, Ms. and spend the whole day with Houston Nutt.
September 20th, 2009 at 8:29 pm
Why did Cable open the game trying to force the ball to DHB, instead of running the ball?
September 20th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
KK because there was 8/9 in the box. So you need to pass when the defense dares you…football 101….wakeup fool!
September 20th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
The browns got rolled again, mista.
September 20th, 2009 at 8:33 pm
MistaBrownStains
Can’t you have a civil conversation, sometimes?
September 20th, 2009 at 8:34 pm
KK when your boy learns how to play Qb that will open up the running game….Keep making excuses maybe that will help him out.
September 20th, 2009 at 8:34 pm
Dallas has 251 yards rushing against a stout Giants D.
Scary…
September 20th, 2009 at 8:35 pm
Dallas has 251 yards rushing against a stout Giants D!
Scary…
September 20th, 2009 at 8:35 pm
KK talk to Oakglen about the Browns he’s in the wrong blog. You 2 are on the same level..
September 20th, 2009 at 8:36 pm
Oakglenn Says:
September 20th, 2009 at 8:07 pm
Gallery breaking his leg is very bad. The only good thing about that is fortunatley the offensive line played without him early in training camp
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Oh…right…that stretch where the Raiders got slapped around?
Oh yeah..memorable..a learning experience..something to fall back on.
Kind of like you falling back on anyone of your numerous handles, so you can spread out the sting?
Welts are welts, peanut.
September 20th, 2009 at 8:36 pm
Something just isn’t right here. I don’t know exactly what it is but they’ve got to figure it out with Russell.
How can he just turn it on like that after stinking all damn game? Maybe the game wouldn’t have even been so close.
But hey, 2 weeks into the season I think we are beginning to see that the kid does have that Killer Instinct. 2 drives where the game was on the line and he needed to usher the offense to score to win – he delivered.
September 20th, 2009 at 8:37 pm
Tony Romo, had 11 passing yards the second half until 6 minute left and 2 int’s. And he’s a great QB if not for that running game they get blew out……..period
September 20th, 2009 at 8:38 pm
You look at some of the Q play early this year, and it has been DISMAL! Cutler, Brady, Rothliesberger, Warner, Delhomme, Carson Palmer, Pennington, these guys have had AWFUL games this year and they are ALL pro bowl players. Romo has thrown what THREE PICKS in this game already, one of which was taken to the house, and a second that should have. Jamarcus MUST build on what he did last year, not regress on any level. If he regresses AT ALL, we are going to see performances like today, and that is not Pro Caliber play.
September 20th, 2009 at 8:38 pm
That attempted “throw” to Dmac that went strait to his ankles was probably the worst throw I’ve seen by a qb. Lucky to get a W.
September 20th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
Brady Quinn blows mista brown
September 20th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
Oakglen,
New Orleans is going to be pretty good so are the NYG! Are you such a derelict tool you want to make me a NYG & NO fan? You are truly a dumb POS with psychotic issues.
September 20th, 2009 at 8:40 pm
BrownStains
The mice & cockroaches in your trailer must be driving you out of your mind. You’ve very hostile.
Angry because your life didn’t turn out as you wanted?
September 20th, 2009 at 8:41 pm
Incomplete passes are better than interceptions
September 20th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
Priest, nice analogy! Whats your point? Who are you trying to convince we didnt blow it with JaMeatball ?
Who cares about Romo Priest? We have a MAJOR malfunction his # is 2! He is killing this team. He is in his 3rd year and regressed from being bad to being embarrassing!
September 20th, 2009 at 8:43 pm
The board is messed up again
September 20th, 2009 at 8:43 pm
Explain to me again what DHB did to deserve the ridicule today?
Except catch a pass for a 1st down setting up a valuable FG. And catching 2 would be TDs if not for offensive holding and being out of bounds for a bomb?
Explain. And how many catches did Murphy get? Explain.
September 20th, 2009 at 8:44 pm
No one is talking to you mista brown fan! Go find the Cleveland Browns dawg pound site. It’s where you belong. Grown men are talking football here, it’s not something you would understand.
September 20th, 2009 at 8:44 pm
There is definitely a double standard in the league. Seems like every “analyst” wants to bash the Raiders some way and Russell is their scapegoat.
So many QBs have had games “almost” this bad this season and in the past but they are not ridiculed and demoted to the extent Russell is. (Cutler was absolutely horrific …not all his fault though). I mean he is just being killed in the media. For a guy that has played less than 20 Pro games its quite amazing how cruel the comments are.
The more the team wins the sooner they’ll all shut up.
September 20th, 2009 at 8:45 pm
Oakglenn Says:
June 8th, 2009 at 12:28
Anyone with half a brain can see that Jamarcus Russell is a bonafide franchise Q.
September 20th, 2009 at 8:45 pm
It’s up to Russell he has what it takes he needs to get the offense going, why he’s stuggling is up for debate. But HE needs to get it fixed NOW.
Nothing great he just can’t do this 3 for 19 crap ever again. It shows he’s not working hard enough.
September 20th, 2009 at 8:45 pm
Russell is developing a reputation of being clutch. Cool customer.
What happened to Z. Miller today?
September 20th, 2009 at 8:45 pm
MistaBrownStains,
I very seldom address you, nothing comes out of your mouth but personal animosity. Take your problems elsewhere. I got no time for you, ok?
September 20th, 2009 at 8:46 pm
Great shades of Jay Schroeder….and since few of you know what that means, I’ll ignore your “i told you so” and “I knew Russel sucks” comments…you are the same girls that wanted to cut Huff.
A win is a win.
Now go to work telling us all how smart you are…me? I am going to enjoy this win….all your insight won’t mean doggie-doo come game day….
LMAO…Does cable call you guys for your input???
more beer….
September 20th, 2009 at 8:46 pm
Post #99
I couldn’t have said it any better myself
“No one is talking to you mista brown fan! Go find the Cleveland Browns dawg pound site. It’s where you belong. Grown men are talking football here, it’s not something you would understand.”
September 20th, 2009 at 8:47 pm
Zach Miller was WIDE open down the middle. In the 1st quarter I believe it was….oh JaMeatball over throws him by 8 yards!
September 20th, 2009 at 8:47 pm
504 what you are saying has a lot of merit. Jamarcus HAS to put in the extra time in to be succesful. Clearly, he has not done that. No one can do that for him. When he forces the game, he looks worse than any Q in the game. When the game comes to him, he looks bona fide. A lot of extra preparation would help the game come to him much easier.
September 20th, 2009 at 8:48 pm
MistaBrownStains,
I very seldom address you, because nothing comes out of your mouth but personal animosity. Take your problems elsewhere. I got no time for you, ok?
September 20th, 2009 at 8:50 pm
KK were you alseep during the last 2 games? You should try drinking some coffee during the game and then you might notice there was 8/9 in the box making it hard for the coach to call plays Russell can execute!
September 20th, 2009 at 8:51 pm
mistabrown hates Jamarcus because he wants Charlie Frye, the ex-Brown player in there.
September 20th, 2009 at 8:52 pm
It seems like JR has his mind made up about who he’s gonna throw the ball to before the snap, Whether the’re covered or not. And how can you BLOW a five yard pass.
September 20th, 2009 at 8:52 pm
Jamarcus should be ashamed of himself. Look at the success that Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco have had. It is very obvious that he simply is not willing to put the work in to live up to his draft status.
September 20th, 2009 at 8:53 pm
Russell threw for 109 yards today.
109 yards.
“I almost miss mcclown” LOL!!
September 20th, 2009 at 8:53 pm
No more coddling the guy. It is up to Cable, Hackett and most importantly, Jamarcus himself to salvage his career. I just dont think he cares.
September 20th, 2009 at 8:54 pm
winning drives?
They got a 15 yard roughing penalty that was totally bogus.
September 20th, 2009 at 8:54 pm
chappy23us
Good point the list is even longer, Sanchez
September 20th, 2009 at 8:55 pm
Man that #7 pick is putting up some NUMBERS! Dude is just ballin! LOL! What a joke.
September 20th, 2009 at 8:55 pm
I agree oakglenn
“mistabrown hates Jamarcus because he wants Charlie Frye, the ex-Brown player in there.”
He rubs one out in the insane asylum bathroom to a picture of Quinn everyday!
September 20th, 2009 at 8:57 pm
Thoughts about today’s win and Jamarcus Russell’s future:
Game balls: to Huff and Janikowski. Huff’s two picks and overall coverage today were huge. Janikowski’s two long FGs were both dead center and his kick-offs were phenomenal.
Hits of the day: Howard smacking LJ for a 5 yd loss and Jon Condo obliterating KC punt returner.
Overall, a very good effort by the defense as a unit. Yes, they gave up a bunch of yards, but never broke until Bowe’s TD, and that was only after being on the field all day.
On Jamarcus Russell: Let’s face it, the Raids have way too much invested to not give JR every possible chance to develop into their franchise QB. Like it or not, it’s unlikely he’s going to lose his job as the starting QB this season and maybe even next, no matter how poorly he plays.
That said, although one might argue the verdict on JR still isn’t in, it’s getting very late in the trial and the evidence so far clearly indicates he’s going to be a BUST.
Factors pointing to JR not having what it takes to be a succesful NFL QB:
Russell doesn’t appear to have the smarts to succeed at this level. He doesn’t seem to read defenses well and doesn’t see the entire field. He zeros in on recievers and telegraphs his throws. He’s incapable of using his eyes or pump fakes to move defenders.
Most disturbingly, even if he can develop the intellectual part of his game, his accuracy has been horrendous, and it’s hard to envision that improving significantly.
About all that can be said for JR at this point is that he has done well to avoid turning the ball over(although tons of would be picks have been dropped and he’s been susceptible to fumbling).
The Raiders overcame JR’s pathetic performance today with alot of help from KC. KC left 3 points on the field at the end of the first half, had numerous drops and some very costly penalties. That’s not gonna happen every week.
I hope I’m wrong about Russell, wasting the overall number one pick in the draft will really decimate an already reeling franchise.
September 20th, 2009 at 8:57 pm
Tru dat, Oak he’s got to do it, no one can do it for him, more practice time and a lot more film study.
He also need to mature he just hasn’t been in enough games. His game is much different than most QB’s, he did a lot of this come from behind stuff at LSU but he never played this poorly before it.
This bigtime drives I saw on college film but he never stuggled quite like what I’m seeing now. Russell IMO will never be a 70% completion guy he is a big play QB you saw that a LSU but this wild inaccuracy you could never make me believe he would struggle like this.
Romo cost them that game………..period
September 20th, 2009 at 8:57 pm
Oakglenn I agree
“he wants to kiss Brady Quinn”
I think he is one of those psychopaths that’s has cut out pictures of 100’s of pairs of eyes pasted to his bedroom wall….all of Browns and ex Browns players!
September 20th, 2009 at 8:57 pm
Raiderman99, that’s not necessarily true I’ve seen tons of youn QB’s struggle like this. And later become outstanding players later in their careers.
Hell Rich Gannon is a perfect example. What you’re seeing now doesn’t ncessarily have anything to do ith what you’ll see 2 years from now.
Drew Brees was horrible early in his career that’s why SD traded for Rivers and were going to draft Mike Vick.
Russell could easily turn this around and have a great career so to say his career is a wrap is way off IMO. It’ just a matter of him putting in the work.
September 20th, 2009 at 8:58 pm
Wow Dmac goes down way to easily, one of the knocks on him pre-draft was lack of leg strength and you can really see it, he is fast as can be and a great wr but man Bush is da guy with Dmac and Rankin as the change of pace guys, and fargas can be in street clothes.
September 20th, 2009 at 8:58 pm
Triple 6, All mistabrown does is fight with Raider fans, say how the team sux, and how much he wants to kiss Brady Quinn. He loves the Browns. What can I say?
# Mistabrown Says:
February 29th, 2008 at 10:31 pm
The Browns are going be a thorn in that division next year.
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Actually the Brown almost went winless in the division last year.
September 20th, 2009 at 8:58 pm
I dont hate JR I just hate flushing winable games down the toilet. We were lucky to get the W. I almost miss mcclown.
September 20th, 2009 at 8:59 pm
“Jamarcus Russell is like a tire around your neck”
-Boomer Esiason
September 20th, 2009 at 9:00 pm
He just puts together game winning drives, that’s all.
I thought the play-calling was odd. Why come out throwing the ball on every down, with 2 rookie WR’s?
September 20th, 2009 at 9:00 pm
JaMarcus hobbies are collecting old Bill Cosby Sweaters having diamond necklaces of his jersey made and oh yeah that great collection of fur coats!
Must be nice to go home at night and play Wii with your boys instead of staying late watching boring film at night!
This is the problem with paying 22 year old’s 60 million dollars.
September 20th, 2009 at 9:01 pm
LMAO @ KK still in the dark on the play calling!!
September 20th, 2009 at 9:02 pm
I do remember Eli Manning getting this much heat from the media and fans though. But I’m not so sure it was with the same fire.
September 20th, 2009 at 9:03 pm
Cable owns me.
What more can I say?
Anyhow, I haven’t even watched the game yet. Bout to watch it later. But I predicted we’d choke late. Our offense had other ideas.
September 20th, 2009 at 9:04 pm
Priest, the issue with Jamarcus Russell is what Vince Lombardi called “singleness of purpose.” In other words, he has to live, breath, eat, drink, focus on nothing other than being an NFL Q. NOTHING, other than being a BETTER NFL Q should be in his life. He can’t be into partying, lounging, dog fighting, clubbin’. If he is, he will come into games and go 4 for 17.
September 20th, 2009 at 9:05 pm
STOP drafting potential. DRAFT player
September 20th, 2009 at 9:06 pm
Is it safe to say no one is calling Mangini a Mangenius anymore Brown or Lions take you’re choice worst franchises ever!
September 20th, 2009 at 9:07 pm
i live in connecticut so i see alot of new york press trust me they wanted elis head
September 20th, 2009 at 9:09 pm
Oak, I agree that’s why I said he needs to mature. Look a Huff right now and all he’s playing is FS. Name one person in here that thought Huff would be doing this now……..no one.
He just needs to grow up and put in the work…….period
September 20th, 2009 at 9:09 pm
Not witj the same fire?? Are you joking? LOL!! Yeah, cuz NY media and fans are sooooooooo patient and rational. LOL! Who is this tool??
September 20th, 2009 at 9:09 pm
The Raider Run game has been shut-down since the Charger 1st half.
September 20th, 2009 at 9:09 pm
ya know? they talk soo bad bout jamarcus russe;ll/ but he doesnt hrow half as many interceptions as delhome and romo.
September 20th, 2009 at 9:10 pm
romo 111yards passing 3 ints i wonder how jruss will do against the giants in week5 hopefully we get 270 yards on the ground too doubtful but we canhope
September 20th, 2009 at 9:10 pm
Terrapin, NY Giant fan was ready to run both Eli and Coughlin into the East River before they won the Super Bowl a couple of years ago. There was some SERIOUS criticism of his play, and he wasn’t nearly as bad as we saw today.
September 20th, 2009 at 9:14 pm
Alot of rook WRs making plays out there yet the first WR takn is still MIA. Hmmmm…………
September 20th, 2009 at 9:15 pm
7-24 are numbers a rookie puts up , im still supporting him but he is getting time throw but why does he have so much trouble with the screens and short passes?
September 20th, 2009 at 9:17 pm
koolkell only reason raiders cat run effectively is becus.. u moron.. the defense has no respect for j.russ. the team should try to run outta 3 wide reciever sets.
September 20th, 2009 at 9:18 pm
The run game helps the passing game more than vice versa. Our running game is not working because ofother reasons. No one an tell me that KC didn’t rspet that deep ball after seeing that TD to Murphy monday night. That’s a bunch of crap. If we’re not running successfully it’s blocking and the HB’s. We ran all over KC last year with same QB. So don’t give me that one.
Cable and Co. need to get it fixed………..period
September 20th, 2009 at 9:20 pm
they tried some 3 wideout sets today and still got no respect because our passing game dont deserve it im hoping when chaz comes back that will change but after russells performance today its like pissing in the wind
September 20th, 2009 at 9:22 pm
Michael Huff, basically won that game for us. It’s still early, but maybe the light FINALLY went on, for Michael. He looks REAL GOOD out there right now. In position, decisive, all the things he wasn’t before.
September 20th, 2009 at 9:23 pm
putting 8 and 9 in the box is respecting the deep ball? if thats the case KC respected the hell out of the deep ball
September 20th, 2009 at 9:24 pm
raiders finally ran sum screens.. yes! weve been healthy so far. but gallery could hurt. wheres da red head ?
September 20th, 2009 at 9:26 pm
It seems everyone is disappointed with JR. Even Cable has admitted that his accuracy has a lot to be desired.
But, on top of all that, I’m just floored at the way JR “immediately” starts looking at the receiver he’s going to throw too. Even if it’s a simple screen or dump off, he’s looking at the freaking receiver. The defense knows exactly where he going to throw. However, they (opponent’s defense)don’t really have to worry too much because JR is so far off the mark. The exception is the last drive of the game. Although he looks at the receiver he’s going to throw too, he finally makes an accurate throw.
JR needs to step it up big time or he needs to offer Al some of his money back.
Hay, where in the freaking game was Walker. I through Javon was suppose to play and even return some punts.
Many of us must have been drinking the “cool-aid” when we were dumb enough to possibly think that Walker could be the “comeback player of the year!” I can’t believe I actually entertained that foolish idea. I must have been out in la-la land at the time. I’ll be happy if he just plays a few games, makes a few catches and doesn’t fumble.
September 20th, 2009 at 9:27 pm
504 I completely agree with you, ans was thinking the same thing myself. Mr. Russell needs to take the entire defense out to a nice steak dinner.
Read Mr. Huff got the game ball (1st time for Micael & the Raiders, I guess traditionally they never gave them out before?) and deservedly so, he earned it.
Raiders definately have the best nickel package in the NFL with: Mr. Asomugha (leading “The Unit” in film study as well), Mr. Chris Johnson, Mr. Eugene, Mr. Branch, and Mr. Huff. (Mr. Routt & Mr. Bowie will get better).
September 20th, 2009 at 9:27 pm
Adios! gotta watch the game now.
September 20th, 2009 at 9:27 pm
There are so many specifics and ramifications to what kind of QB Russell will become in every situation possible, but in those last 2 minutes or so in the game he showed a little of that willingness, poise and leadership under the gun. That experience is key to his development did he misfire receivers? yes! did we all get to see his clutch moment not even at his best level of play? yes! certainly he has the tools and potential but will take time definitely! opposing teams are stacking the box with 8-9 players like hungry men eating unlimited ribs at armadillo willy’s! If Russell has any interest in protecting his career he has to WIN more games from here on out! Russell looks like his chest is palpitating when the zero blitz fires at will. He throws a helluva ball when its in the middle of the field if only he can get his timing on the outside he will be unstoppable.
Whatever the case is with Russell he better show progress because Tim Tebow is looking like a trophy in Al Davis’s eyes!
September 20th, 2009 at 9:31 pm
JR was 7-24!!! JR makes his passes when time is running out. Russel can complete passes in-between the hash marks. The guys is a streaky passer and needs to work on his mechanics. IMO. Running and playing defense will keep games close but JR needs to make some better throws. With good QB play the raiders would win the AFC west.
September 20th, 2009 at 9:37 pm
“The Raiders are a very good football team ”
-Boomer Esiason
and nation guess who boomer thought was holdin them back?
“jamarcus russell is like a tire hanging around your neck”
- Boomer Esiason
well said.
September 20th, 2009 at 9:42 pm
ryan leaf never had a game winning drive but chris in ny is rightgradowski is a guaranteed 8-8 season look at his stats i think every1 was hoping jruss would pick up where he left off the last 3 games of last season and so far except his final drives in the fist 2 games hes been horrible again hopefully getting chaz back and this drive will turn things around and make defenses stop stacking up the box with 8 and 9 players and then we can get our running game going
September 20th, 2009 at 9:42 pm
Hopefully that last drive can get JaMarcus rolling. Made some great throws there, just like against San Diego at the end. Hopefully the win will get his confidence up.
Those calling for Bruce Gradkowski are so desperate for an assured 8-8 season that they want to mortgage the future and the possible chance for something better this year for it. Count me out of that group.
September 20th, 2009 at 9:43 pm
Mark Sanchez is doing things in his first 2 games that Russell has never done. Sanchez looks like the next real good young QB, Russell looks like……….Ryan Leaf??
September 20th, 2009 at 9:44 pm
Hey guys I usually read but I might start posting a little. So, while watching the game I admit I was getting pissed with Russell, but after seeing him being able to use his great arm strength to make passes most other qbs couldn’t throw, I cooled down a little. The way he plays, it just drives you crazy.
Russell just needs to get more passes over the middle, I saw some inexcusable screens, a pass to an open murphy over the middle, and a throw to Zach Miller that were misfired and just terrible. I will give him the whole year, but I get tired of defending him so he needs to be like Huff and make his playing do the talking.
Also I saw some of you guys don’t like using QB ratings to compare QBs so what would you like to use? Clutch late quarter plays? If thats it, I think Russell improved in that alot he did it twice this year
September 20th, 2009 at 9:45 pm
7-24 & 12-30 = 19-54 for a 35.2% completeion percentage and that is rounded up.
September 20th, 2009 at 9:45 pm
Game should have been over on his first pass of the last drive. Should have been picked amnong about 3 others.
September 20th, 2009 at 9:47 pm
that was an ugly win but its a win. i havnt givin up on JR yet but hes not looking good at all. im hoping he can turn it around by week 5, other wise you have to sit him.
September 20th, 2009 at 9:48 pm
Dude, usually I agree with your sound al bashing. But don’t forget “just win baby”. We won. End of story. I don’t think Russell was a number one pick, either. But a lot of teams have won Super Bowls with so-so quarterbacks. If we can get him to so-so, with that arm, it’s not impossible to build a super bowl team around. Problem is, al would never let anyone build a super bowl team around him. I haven’t watched this game yet. I don’t know what Cable did to pull this off. But he did something right. He’s instilling a winning attitude into this team and he’s starting to learn how to play the game and run the team under al’s disastrous meddling. If Cable can find a way to keep from putting the game into the defense’s hands late in the game, we could be a playoff team really soon. Maybe this year.
September 20th, 2009 at 9:54 pm
JaMarcus Russell is not the achilles heel of this team. Al Davis is. Cable has to learn how to win in spite of Al’s meddling, like Gruden did. I think he’s doing it. I’m seeing it. And if he continues to do it, Russell will be fine.
September 20th, 2009 at 9:55 pm
rmr. u dont have to watch that game. really. jruss didnt stink it up like u think. the offense isnt set up right or sumtin. sumtins off. but i like when jruss throws it deep.
September 20th, 2009 at 9:55 pm
there are plays that wiil keep the Ds from stacking the box. maybe tollner needs to work on some audibles.
September 20th, 2009 at 10:00 pm
LOL @ Dorian,
Not that bad?? You didnt watch the game either. Bottom line.
He was garbage and if the Chiefs werent so god awful the game would have been a blowout. This team has some pieces but they will never come together because of Fat boy and is “what me worry” attitude. Hee just flat dont care as long as the checks cash.
September 20th, 2009 at 10:01 pm
Russell IS terrible.
Cable IS a puppett.
September 20th, 2009 at 10:02 pm
I can’t believe all the Russell supporters out there. What games are you watching?? Just because he led the team to a win in the final 2 minutes of the game doesn’t mean he had a good or even acceptable game. If it wasn’t for that fat tub of gue missing wide open targets all day, the Raiders wouldn’t have needed a last minute drive for the win. The guy is 6′6″ and can’t complete a screen pass?? How about a wide open Murphy in the end zone when he threw to the wrong shoulder? He has near ZERO accuracy and ZERO touch. He finished the last season on a fairly high note, only to come into camp over-weight and without bettering himself as a QB through hard work and film study in the off-season. Take Joe Flacco or Matt Ryan. Two guys with 1 year less time, but light years ahead of Russell. He’s not cerebral and doesn’t care enough to be a respectable QB in the NFL. If you didn’t notice, the Cheifs simply stacked the box and dared the black Jeff George to beat them. Expect the Donks and every other team in the league to do the same until Russell pull his head out of his ass and puts in the work to become successful. The red flag was waving mightily prior to the draft when Russell said ” All I knows is the 1st player picked makes the most monies.” But that didn’t stop Al. Can you say Ryan Leaf?
September 20th, 2009 at 10:02 pm
Jamarcus is hard to bear but you just watch he is starting to become clutch. Last game in tampa bay last year they came back from 10 down in the 4th, the monday night game he made that pass on 4th and 14 that should have won the game. And then today he has the worst game I’ve ever seen him have (and I’ve seen a ton!) then makes those passes in the clutch. That’s 3 games in a row so I hope it means something cause a win feels so good but damn when did we win last time and have that many questions?
September 20th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
Madden Raider like I said before I dont post much not trying to start anything but was it you or someone else that was saying how terrible Russell was before the season started and that Cable was just a puppet? Sorry if it wasnt you
September 20th, 2009 at 10:09 pm
Russell finished 7-of-24 for 109 yards and no touchdowns. He became only the second quarterback since the start of the 1997 season to win a game in which he attempted at least 20 passes and completed fewer than 30 percent.
September 20th, 2009 at 10:10 pm
Jeff George was a loser but he could light up a scoreboard. Jamarcus Russell can light up a BBQ but thats about it.
September 20th, 2009 at 10:13 pm
Dude Says:
September 20th, 2009 at 9:43 pm
Mark Sanchez is doing things in his first 2 games that Russell has never done. Sanchez looks like the next real good young QB, Russell looks like……….Ryan Leaf??
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FIRST 2 NFL STARTS
(Completions/Attempts, Yards, TDs, INTs, Avg QB rating)
Mark Sanchez: 32/53, 435, 2, 1, 92.7
JaMarcus Russell: 40/57, 404, 3, 1, 101.2
Ryan Leaf: 29/55, 371, 1, 2, 66.5
I realize JaMarcus is coming off his worst game ever, but he did still manage to win the game at least. Also, let’s wait before annointing Sanchez anything just yet.
Also, Leaf was a monumental bust. His first year QB rating was 39.0. He never had a season with a rating better than 57.7. JaMarcus posted a 77.1 rating his first year under center — about double Leaf’s.
JaMarcus is better than what he’s shown through these first two games. He finished out the last 3 games of 2008 with a 6/2 TD/INT ratio and completed more than 60% of his passes during that stretch. The kid is 3-1 in his last 4 games and put his team in the lead with about 2 minutes left in the one loss during that stretch. He also hasn’t been taking sacks and hasn’t been turning the ball over — very good signs of growth.
September 20th, 2009 at 10:16 pm
Jamarcus SUCKS ASS!!!
September 20th, 2009 at 10:17 pm
DHB SUCKS ASS TOO!!
September 20th, 2009 at 10:17 pm
On that last drive you lunatics are raving about the first attempt to Watkins should have been picked off. He made the one nice throw down the middle & then DMAC ran it in….BFD!
He sucks!
September 20th, 2009 at 10:17 pm
Jevon SUCKS ASS TOO TOO!!!
September 20th, 2009 at 10:19 pm
Priest next time watch the game before you come in here talking out your bung hole.
# priesttj Says:
September 20th, 2009 at 9:27 pm
Adios! gotta watch the game now.
September 20th, 2009 at 10:21 pm
Oakglen, how is Alston looking so far in 2009 ?
# Oakglenn Says:
June 5th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
Alston is a savvy guy. He should play well for us.
September 20th, 2009 at 10:21 pm
Sista Brown Eye has her panties in a bunch tonight!!
Someone must have dined and dashed on that ass.
Tough job working the streets for crack I think I will start being nicer to her from now on.
September 20th, 2009 at 10:22 pm
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September 20th, 2009 at 10:22 pm
It wasn’t pretty but a win is a win.
San Diego lost.
Denver next week in a very important early season showdown. A win there and Schilens on the verge of coming back and the Raiders are definitely in the hunt in this division. JaMarcus will need to play better, obviously, but I wouldn’t count that out. He really just needs to play with more confidence like he has in the final drives of the last two games.
September 20th, 2009 at 10:26 pm
Funniest post of the day……..BUT VERY TRUE WAS!!!
WE WON!!|
WE WON!!
WE SUCK BIG TIME, BUT WE WON TODAY!! LOL!!
September 20th, 2009 at 10:26 pm
Total Yards – 176
Passing Yards – 109
Rushing Yards – 67
First Downs – 11
That is just sad.
Winning 13-10
This is just crazy.
But I’ll take it.
September 20th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
Game balls go to Huff & Seabass.
Hopefully JaMeatball can find his a$$ before Denv comes in Sunday.
September 20th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
i really am tired of seeing the coaches call plays that they think jmarc wont screw up even though he still does.
im trying to figure out what the deal is with him i mean at some point a man with a set in his pants would be like f this im going to let this rip here we go instead he looks like some high school kid who is put in after the star qb gets hurt NO CONFIDENCE
JMARCUS NEEDS TO NUTT UP.
AND FOR GODS SAKE WITH ALL THOSE MILLIONS THE RAIDER ORG. NEEDS TO GET NIKE IN HERE TO FIGURE OUT WHATS UP WITH DMACS SLIPPING SO MUCH.
IM STILL HAPPIER TONIGHT THAN LAST WEEK.
September 20th, 2009 at 10:28 pm
really am tired of seeing the coaches call plays that they think jmarc wont screw up even though he still does.
im trying to figure out what the deal is with him i mean at some point a man with a set in his pants would be like f this im going to let this rip here we go instead he looks like some high school kid who is put in after the star qb gets hurt NO CONFIDENCE
JMARCUS NEEDS TO NUTT UP.
AND FOR GODS SAKE WITH ALL THOSE MILLIONS THE RAIDER ORG. NEEDS TO GET NIKE IN HERE TO FIGURE OUT WHATS UP WITH DMACS SLIPPING SO MUCH.
IM STILL HAPPIER TONIGHT THAN LAST WEEK.
RAIDER NATION I SALUTE YOU AND LETS GET DRUNK
September 20th, 2009 at 10:30 pm
Why cant we get a Flacco, or a Ryan or a SAnchez….Why Russell!! Why Why Why??
Jawalrus SUCKS ASS!!!
September 20th, 2009 at 10:32 pm
Chris,
What does everyone in N.Y. think about the GREAT SANCHEZ???
Do the LOVE him or what??
September 20th, 2009 at 10:32 pm
they
September 20th, 2009 at 10:33 pm
so i just saw hilites of both the Texans and Panthers game. They both had a touchdown where the receiver lost control of the ball when he hits the ground but replays didnt overturn it. I swear they are out to get us.
September 20th, 2009 at 10:35 pm
After watching us in 2006 limiting Houston to -5 yards passing for entire game and still lost. after watching us limit Delhome to 75 yards passing 5 ints and we STILL LOST. You guys should try and enjoy the beer buzz for this win.
September 20th, 2009 at 10:35 pm
Alisgod,
Yeah I saw those too!!
It’s only against the Raiders when these bastards come out with new rules of the game!!
Whatta bunch of b.s!!
September 20th, 2009 at 10:37 pm
Getting lost in this bonafide Qb circus is Marshall has turned this defense around and they are still gelling. They were on the field way too much after all those 3 & outs!
Rob Ryan was a tire around our neck!
September 20th, 2009 at 10:37 pm
The year the Giants won the Super Bowl Eli Manning had one game where he went 8-for-22 for 59 yards (the Giants won that game 13-10) and another game where he went 18-for-53 for 184 yards.
You can’t sit here and project an entire season off one or two games. JaMarcus has shown alot of good things. He’s not taking sacks. He’s not turning the ball over. He’s hitting big throws in the clutch. Those are some VERY positive signs despite all the inaccurate throws. He’s not as far off as people think. He’s really not.
September 20th, 2009 at 10:44 pm
Chris he has tried to turn the ball over about 6 times in 2 weeks! Dorsey almost intercepted a screen pass for gawd sakes!
The Db’s are just not cooperating dropping Russells passes! Sorry for the reality I know you Russell drones hate it.
Who cares what Eli did with NY. Who cares what Romo does in Dallas! Its irrelevant only to you Russell apologists.
September 20th, 2009 at 10:45 pm
Yeah,,,,,
Chris with all that said…
Jamrcus still stinks…
If we had a decent QB, we would have won easy!!
September 20th, 2009 at 10:45 pm
Raider-DEE Says:
September 20th, 2009 at 10:32 pm
Chris,
What does everyone in N.Y. think about the GREAT SANCHEZ???
Do the LOVE him or what??
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I haven’t talked to any Jets fans since today’s game but I’m sure they’ve already handed him the Rookie of the Year trophy and are even murmuring amongst themselves about MVP consideration and Super Bowl rings — when they’re not caught up in their limp-wristed J-E-T-S chant. Dorks.
I think Sanchez is going to be a good pro QB. He just looks like he knows what he’s doing. But he hasn’t faced a very good defense yet. And I think he comes crashing back to reality againts Tennessee next week.
Although, the true Jets fan is probably even more excited about Rex Ryan’s defense right now — and rightfully so.
September 20th, 2009 at 10:47 pm
Mistabrown Says:
September 20th, 2009 at 10:44 pm
Chris he has tried to turn the ball over about 6 times in 2 weeks! Dorsey almost intercepted a screen pass for gawd sakes!
The Db’s are just not cooperating dropping Russells passes! Sorry for the reality I know you Russell drones hate it.
Who cares what Eli did with NY. Who cares what Romo does in Dallas! Its irrelevant only to you Russell apologists.
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Almost but didn’t. Dorsey batted that pass down. He really wasn’t close to picking it off. Call me when the turnovers actually happen. There are a lot of almost turnovers in every game.
The Eli info is obviously relevant because he was a former No. 1 overall pick who had some very bad games and it wasn’t until late in his 4th season that he turned it on. Up until that point fans were clamoring for the Giants to bench the guy. Now Eli is a Super Bowl MVP and legitimate franchise QB. If you watched tonight’s NYG-Dallas game you know that. Russell is now 2 games into his 3rd season.
September 20th, 2009 at 10:47 pm
I’ll be at the next home raider game vs the DONKS!!
I’m just hoping we win in spite this dude!!
He was the NO# pick for crying out loud!!
NO# 1……
He SUCKS!!
September 20th, 2009 at 10:49 pm
Everyone needs to chill on JaMarcus. It was one game … and it was a win!! Enjoy it.
Later.
September 20th, 2009 at 10:52 pm
If Sanchez was a Raider…..
I would have bought 3 jerseys with his name on them already….
That guy is special…You can tell he has IT!!!
Too bad we dont have some one like him…..
DAMN SEC sucks for QB’s!! All SEC QB’s suck ass!
September 20th, 2009 at 10:53 pm
Prediction:::
Tim TEBOW will suck ass as well when he arrives to the NFL!!
September 20th, 2009 at 10:53 pm
I think Tebow is off the charts for personal character, leadership, and work ethic, but lacks a lot in accuracy. I don’t think he should go in the first round but if someone gets him in the late second or third round they may have a diamond in the rough.
September 20th, 2009 at 10:54 pm
Sanchez already looks like a veteran in his second start. You either have it or you don’t. Jamarcus needs to warm up more on the sidelines and throw a bunch of hard and touch passes right on the sidelines right before he goes out there. Why does Al DAvis always love erratic players?
September 20th, 2009 at 11:03 pm
# Mistabrown Says:
September 20th, 2009 at 10:37 pm
Rob Ryan was a tire around our neck!
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Now Ryan is the Defensive Coordinator of YOUR Cleveland Browns!! LOL
September 20th, 2009 at 11:03 pm
I’m finally watching the 1st half of th game, and DMC is driving me freakin’ crazy stumbling over his own feet. On the screen to DMC he’s got one man to beat to score and he can’t juke him. Then on a delay fawhe stumble over his own feet. DHB doesn’t know how to run a go route he let’s the DB push him to far to the sideline. That’s just basic route running that the rookie blew or else that is a TD. The one to Murphy was a very tough throw over the safety.
So while there re zero excuses for Russell he needs to get some help from his teamates. Most of this stuff is timing issues and it appears whenever Russell tries to throw with touch he tends to sail the ball high. So he needs a ton of work on that.
But we need Chaz back desparately. And JLH would’ve made a HUGE diffeenc in this game.
However DMC is freakin’ ridiculuos, he goes down TOOO DAMN EASY!!
If cable has any brains at all he biulds this offense around Michael Bush…………..period. Aside from a few maybe 5 throws Russell needed experienced WR’ to help him get going. DMC should’ve scored on that damn screen……….period 1 man to beat DAMN IT!!
September 20th, 2009 at 11:03 pm
Remember, Sanchez joined a team that had won at least 10 games in 2 of the prior 4 years, before last year. Last year the jets won 9 games, and traded up to get Sanchez. He also has Pro Bowlers, Alan Faneca, Nick Mangold and overall 4th pick D. Ferguson on his offensive line. That helps. the Jets are NOT a bad team. We’re a bad team, that has to get better to get to their level.
September 20th, 2009 at 11:04 pm
There are no excuses for Russell today, Shane Lechler could have completed some of the throws he missed, I’m just glad it’s over.
But we won and Russell made another huge play down the stretch, last week it was the 4th and 14 TD pass to Murphy, this week the 28 yard pass to Watkins on 3rd and 15……… at least the kid does not mind having the ball in his hands when the game is on the line, you just can’t teach that.
Bottom line, like Jerry said: we haven’t been winning games like this for 6 years, good teams find a way to win even when they don’t deserve to, that’s what we did today and it feels great.
September 20th, 2009 at 11:05 pm
I remember when Blanda use to come in to give The Raiders a spark when Lamanica was struggling, and later Stabler came in for him until he took the starting job. It might do Russel some good to watch someone else sometime.
September 20th, 2009 at 11:05 pm
Priest we dont need a recap of the game Jerry has already done it quarter by quarter.
Besides your incompetent.
September 20th, 2009 at 11:05 pm
mista brown fan, now I know why you made that assinine prediction that Tenn would beat Pitt in their own yard on opening nite: Pittsburgh is the Browns most hated rival. Now that idiotic statement makes sense once you realize how much you love the Browns!
September 20th, 2009 at 11:06 pm
Another solid post!
# Oakglenn Says:
June 5th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
Alston is a savvy guy. He should play well for us.
September 20th, 2009 at 11:07 pm
Priest what will it take for you to STFU ?
U are yapping like a pomeranian!
September 20th, 2009 at 11:10 pm
Dark Forces, do you have any idea how long it’s been since the Jets were worth a damn? Give me a break?
Does MBush look erratic? we have one of most talented teams in the league, we’re just very young and it’s very frustrating. But the damtalnt is there.
After watching the 1st half I’m not nearly as down on Russell as I was earlier. And I think he will play much better as soon as Chaz is back in the lineup.
September 20th, 2009 at 11:13 pm
Priest,sorry,but i disagree with you on both those passes.on the pass to Murphy all he had to do was hit him.he was behind and to the side of the safety.on the one to DHB,if he had lead him and thrown the ball to the inside,DHB had a step and was pulling away from the defender.but we won,so i will let it go for now.
September 20th, 2009 at 11:15 pm
# Bob Marley Says:
September 20th, 2009 at 11:04 pm
Bottom line, like Jerry said: we haven’t been winning games like this for 6 years, good teams find a way to win even when they don’t deserve to, that’s what we did today and it feels great.
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Russell was flat out TERRIBLE today. I cringe to think of how Raider “fan” is going to turn on him like Mike Vicks Pitts, if he plays like that next game in the Coliseum. Bottom line: we are 4-4 in our last 8 games with Russell and Cable.
September 20th, 2009 at 11:15 pm
Priest you say the Jets have been worht a dam and your left tit Oakglen says the Jets have been smashing the NFL…lmao
Oakglenn Says:
September 20th, 2009 at 11:03 pm
Remember, Sanchez joined a team that had won at least 10 games in 2 of the prior 4 years, before last year.
September 20th, 2009 at 11:16 pm
If anyone wants to get real pissed….
Go watch the Texans Jacoby Jones TD catch vs the Titans today, then go watch the Louis Murphy non-catch-TD vs San Diego.
After Mike Pereira and the refs went out of their way to explain how Murphy’s play was not a catch…..how are they going to justify this one……..what a joke.
September 20th, 2009 at 11:17 pm
One of you buffoons is wrong…oooops!
lmao
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priesttj Says:
September 20th, 2009 at 11:10 pm
Dark Forces, do you have any idea how long it’s been since the Jets were worth a damn? Give me a break?
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Oakglenn Says:
September 20th, 2009 at 11:03 pm
Remember, Sanchez joined a team that had won at least 10 games in 2 of the prior 4 years, before last year. Last year the jets won 9 games, and traded up to get Sanchez.
September 20th, 2009 at 11:19 pm
Oak, more right than I am, but what have the Jet’s won nothing since the ice age.
September 20th, 2009 at 11:20 pm
# Mistabrown Says:
September 20th, 2009 at 8:59 pm
“Jamarcus Russell is like a tire around your neck”
-Boomer Esiason
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Boomer was a Cinncinnati Bengal, mista brown fan. You should post a quote from Bernie Kosar or better yet, Tim Couch.
September 20th, 2009 at 11:22 pm
Remember Oakglen the Raiders were in the SB in 2002 so JaMeatball should be an ALL-Pro in his 3rd year now!
See how your retarded logic works ?
September 20th, 2009 at 11:22 pm
mista brown, how have the Browns been lately?? They got blown out again today??
September 20th, 2009 at 11:23 pm
Oakglen keep reaching with ignorant BS and ill just keep making an a$$ out of you, your call.
September 20th, 2009 at 11:24 pm
MaddenRaider, mista brown fan is NOT a Raider fan. He’s a Cleveland Browns fan. Otherwise he would understand today was a classic “Just Win Baby” game. He didn’t see it tho, he was following Brady quinn.
September 20th, 2009 at 11:25 pm
# Dude Says:
September 20th, 2009 at 10:01 pm
Russell IS terrible.
Cable IS a puppett.
……….
No Davis puppet runs the ball the way Cable does. I’ve been through at least a baker’s dozen Davis puppets watching this team through the years. None of them. Turner. Shell. White. Callahan. Bugel….ran the football the way Cable is right now. It’s not about the run attempts total. It’s about when and how often they run. Cable is not abandoning the run the way the Davis puppets do.
September 20th, 2009 at 11:28 pm
MistaBrown, Dude,
“Just Win Baby”. What happened to that? What more do you ask out of the Raiders?
September 20th, 2009 at 11:28 pm
Bob Marley:
Anyway you can get the infor to the comish, with a letter attached telling him and his goons (refs) to shove it where the sun don’t shine.
Double standards…always against us and the comish is silent, as usual.
September 20th, 2009 at 11:29 pm
Fargas would have never turned the corner like DMAC did on the go ahead TD.
Fargas payed off dividends in his street clothes!
Game ball to Fargas for not suiting up!
September 20th, 2009 at 11:29 pm
“commitment to excellence” doesn’t mean nearly as much to me as “just win baby”. I’ve actually considered getting a “just win baby” tattoo when I was younger and a much more avid fan. Heck, I still might someday.
I haven’t watched today’s game yet. I’m about to right now because I’m starting to get tired. I fast forward between downs anyway so I can watch it in a little over an hour. But I can tell you this much, Russell did not kill us last week. To say that Russell killed us last week is to shill for that prevent defense we used at the end of the game. So, Russell does not keep “killing us”. And, Russell didn’t kill us today, either. We won. Obviously you forgot.
September 20th, 2009 at 11:31 pm
repost…
they posted my comment above comment i was responding to. Is it just me, or does this blog add a new annoying wrinkle just about every week? Somebody here really needs to start a blog and we’ll all just head over there. No more wordpress. anyhow…
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“commitment to excellence” doesn’t mean nearly as much to me as “just win baby”. I’ve actually considered getting a “just win baby” tattoo when I was younger and a much more avid fan. Heck, I still might someday.
I haven’t watched today’s game yet. I’m about to right now because I’m starting to get tired. I fast forward between downs anyway so I can watch it in a little over an hour. But I can tell you this much, Russell did not kill us last week. To say that Russell killed us last week is to shill for that prevent defense we used at the end of the game. So, Russell does not keep “killing us”. And, Russell didn’t kill us today, either. We won. Obviously you forgot.
September 20th, 2009 at 11:31 pm
# Mistabrown Says:
September 20th, 2009 at 10:37 pm
Getting lost in this bonafide Qb circus is Marshall has turned this defense around and they are still gelling. They were on the field way too much after all those 3 & outs!
Rob Ryan was a tire around our neck!
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Actually last year in KC our defense gave up fewer points and fewer yards in the W there. In fact we had a shut out going up until the last 3 minutes. But only a Cleveland Brown fan would not remember that.
September 20th, 2009 at 11:32 pm
MR,
Id like to see a team win vs a win despite our “bonafide” Qb.
I like the way the defense is playing and Russell is killing them!
I guess my expectations are too high but Im not going to lower my standards to what most of you are happy with.
“commitment to Excellence” mean anything to you ?
September 20th, 2009 at 11:35 pm
Mr, you can look at last weeks games 1 of 2 ways.
1- Russell played so awful we could have put it out of reach and prevent def wouldnt have been an issue.
or
2- The def went prevent and lost the game.
Both are obviously correct its just a matter of who you want to point the finger at. I choose Russell u choose Marshall’s prevent.
September 20th, 2009 at 11:36 pm
Mr. Janokowski deserves some kudos as well, especially for the 54 yarder, both of his long FGs put us ahead early by three which along with our D allowed us to stay in the game until the offense finally pulled through for the victory.
September 20th, 2009 at 11:39 pm
Russell is too worried about accuracy, you can see it in the way he’s throwing the ball, he’s holding back on the zip and trying to place it like he’s Drew Brees out there, that’s not his game, he needs to just let it go.
September 20th, 2009 at 11:41 pm
B.Marley-don’t laugh too hard but their explanation was he was down before the ball came out.i guess in todays NFL a knee doesn’t constitute being down.
September 20th, 2009 at 11:42 pm
Guys, a reminder that at this cheap, lame excuse for a website you have to read up about 10 comments or so to make sure you don’t miss any comments that were placed above comments they were in response to. This guys at IBA are f’n lazy. It’s unreal.
September 20th, 2009 at 11:42 pm
We’re SO THIN in decent offensive linemen.
Decent: Mario and Robert
Average or a notch below…all the rest of our O-line.
This does not include our tight ends, who are good with Zack miller being excellent.
Now Gallery is out…probably 7 to 8 weeks, less the bye, which means 6 or 7 games without him. We’re hurting in that area and Davis is going to have to find someway to get “decent” help and help quickly. From where? Who knows?
Jesus “freaking” Christ!!!
September 20th, 2009 at 11:45 pm
Oakglenn Says:
September 20th, 2009 at 11:24 pm
MaddenRaider, mista brown fan is NOT a Raider fan. He’s a Cleveland Browns fan. Otherwise he would understand today was a classic “Just Win Baby” game. He didn’t see it tho, he was following Brady quinn.
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And you’re an idiot. Only a friggin’ idiot would state this was a classic anything except for a sh*t game. KC lost two turnovers. That’s THE ONLY REASON THE RAIDERS WON.
Winning because the other team screwed up isn’t classic, you fool.
Oh..now..quick..let’s get some juvenile reply that indicates thinking will NEVER be your forte’.
September 20th, 2009 at 11:46 pm
Mistabrown I do agree Mr. Jamarcus Russell’s poor play had more to do with the Raider’s losing to SD than the prevent (that wasn’t according to coaching staff, because they had four on the DLine instead of three); but we must also apply some responsibility to the coaching staff and general management as Jamarcus was working primarily with two rookie WRs to start along with Mr. Watkins & Mr. Higgins, of the 4 only Johnnie Lee had any NFL receptions.
September 20th, 2009 at 11:46 pm
BTW, OakDumbass, still laughing at you posting to me, last night, saying how funny it is I didn’t have a date on Saturday night, while you sat here posting, too damn stupid to realize you just soiled your own shoe.
It’s not that much fun picking on someone challenged..but still, you’re good for a laugh.
September 20th, 2009 at 11:48 pm
Hey, where’s HumBolt? Maybe he could give us another lesson…the prettiest way to lose a game. Rivers had a career day and San Diego still got beat. That being said, the Chargers got hosed on quite a few calls.
September 20th, 2009 at 11:50 pm
What is all the “freaking” 3 and outs. Are we trying to set a record? That’s crazy…our defense needs some rest.
We have already set a record for the less “blitzing” and also for a team who puts the less pressure on other teams. A few plays last year, Rob “fuzk stick” Ryan actually rushed two guys. There was a play in one game where he rushed “NO ONE!”
We need Davis to become seriously ill and have him sell the team to John Madden, with a 10% share to Howie Long.
September 20th, 2009 at 11:56 pm
good nite guys…looks like you all checked out for the nite as well. GO RAIDERS!!!
September 20th, 2009 at 11:58 pm
2 Q’s for NFL referee’s
following their ruling on reversing Mr. Murphy’s TD; how is it that SanDiego’s reception that landed on the ground and beside the WR/Te on their last drive, thankfully stopped by Ray Lewis and the Panther’s WR reception TD at the plane that was dropped/lost control while falling to the ground – oh that’s right they were not wearing the silver & black.
September 20th, 2009 at 11:58 pm
Good night.
You guys can complain all you want…..we all know we didn’t “deserve” to win today, but we didn’t “deserve” to lose monday night either so that evens things out for me… and it feels nice to be on the other end of a “lucky” win for a change.
Hell even MR is going Just Win Baby on us…..you tell’em man!.
Finally, we saw the worst from Russell today and we still won, nowhere to go but up for the big fella.
September 20th, 2009 at 11:59 pm
all this hate in this blog..The raiders won….who cares if u take an ugly girl to the prom as long as she lets u hit ..we get a “W” just win baby
September 21st, 2009 at 12:00 am
can we get a link
September 21st, 2009 at 12:02 am
Retribution, check it out
Repost:
If anyone wants to get real pissed….
Go watch the Texans Jacoby Jones TD catch vs the Titans today, then go watch the Louis Murphy non-catch-TD vs San Diego.
After Mike Pereira and the refs went out of their way to explain how Murphy’s play was not a catch…..how are they going to justify this one……..what a joke.
I know, it was last week but come on, get over it….but how can they get away with these calls vs the raiders every time they get a chance?.
September 21st, 2009 at 12:51 am
Reasons to be happy:
1) A group of up and coming players: Bush, Huff, McFadden, Murphy, Branch, Thomas Howard, Chaz, Super Mario, CJ.
2) A group of proven players: Gallery (too bad he got hurt) Nnamdi, Jano, Lechler, Seymour, Ellis,
3)Guys who are playing better: Warren and Tommy Kelly
4)JaMarcus is lousy, but he has a thick skin, and is hanging in there and the last 3 games has pulled it out in the clutch when it counted. If you have a QB who plays like hell, at least he is too thick in his noggin to see it himself and has the pride and confidence to make big plays at the end of a game.
September 21st, 2009 at 1:00 am
5) Role players who are making something happen or holding their own and not making mistakes: Condo, Eugene, JLH, R. Brown, Nessie, Bryant, Trevor Scott, Chris Morris.
September 21st, 2009 at 1:10 am
Imagine walking up to the huddle in that last drive, Kansas City red everywhere yelling at the top of there lungs, against a defense that has shut you down for the entire game, an incompletion streak that has reached DOUBLE DIGITS, penalty flags constantly flying to keep you from getting close. Could you be poised enough to finish the drive with a touchdown? JaMarcus you may be a laid-back, country-loving dolt, but this time I think it worked out to your benefit.
September 21st, 2009 at 1:10 am
Just think that we turned the Chiefs into the RAIDERS of old. We get stuffed all game and then pull a win out of our butt during the final 2:30 minutes. We should have lost that game, but won.
Gotta give JaMarcus a bit of credit for taking the ball into the end zone on a 1:30 minute drive. Not satisfied with him, but he pulled through. Let’s get this kid on TRACK and he WILL be the Man.
Captain Kirk also had 13 solo tackles. Not bad.
September 21st, 2009 at 1:20 am
This is actually what we NEEDED. A QB who makes it happen when it counts. A playmaker. ICE. Clutch player who pulls a banana out of his rump to win.
Kenny Stabler was a bit like that. When the turd hit the fan, he pulled it through. This is what made us the RAIDERS. This is JUST WIN BABY.
JaMarcus still sucks, but he’s got SOMETHING. Let’s build on it!
September 21st, 2009 at 1:26 am
Kansas City also deserves some credit here fellas. They obviously studied the Raiders / Chargers tape like labrats and the Raiders were playing on a short week heading into Arrowhead. The Chiefs wanted to win more than the Raiders did. And the game mostly showed just that. Feels so good to finally win a game from behind with all odds against you. Broncs-Raiders lets wing it!
September 21st, 2009 at 1:39 am
Gotta give Cassel some credit. That guy is a tough dude. Sure he threw a couple of picks, but he had a bum knee and moved around incredibly well and escaped pressure and made some plays.
Haley also had us a bit consfused. K.C. made enough mistakes to lose, but they actually came to play with a good gameplan on both O and D.
September 21st, 2009 at 2:13 am
“I know that I am the guy.”
“I never once worried about coach taking me out.”—
Jamarcus Russell.
Maybe that’s a part of the problem.
Why should a guy who plays so badly feel so secure?!
Look, it’s great that he won the game at the end BUT that last drive was only crucial because of his unbelievably poor playing.
Seven three and outs with five a row?!
The defense was worn out by the end of the first quarter.
Gallery broke his leg standing around waiting for Russell to complete a pass.
Things might must get better if the quarterback didn’t think that his job was a God given right.
When you think you might lose your job it focuses the mind really well.
Something or someone needs to focus Russell.
September 21st, 2009 at 2:30 am
JEDIRAIDER:
Post #20 (unless the moderater moves it around) was a real good analysis.
Great post.
September 21st, 2009 at 2:59 am
Man seeing how bad the afc west looks 8-8 may just win it man the chiefs looked damn near worse than the lions , when they jumped on jruss(who ran it his own lineman and fell) and got the 15 yrd penalty I was thank you dumbies!
September 21st, 2009 at 3:07 am
Russell play was awfull, unacceptable for an NFL QB. I agree with that.
But this was the second game in a row where he led the offense to TD in the last drive of the game. You can like or not Russell, but one thing is fact: he plays is best football in the 4th quarter. Stats reflect that. He did the same at LSU inn college.
Anyway, yestaerday was the defense that kept us in the game and Asomugha and Eugene were dehydratated because of offense 3 and out play. In other game, the team would be out of the game by half time, so JaMarcus needs to play football from the beginning, not just in the 4th quarter.
September 21st, 2009 at 3:08 am
- I still don’t understand why Cornell Green is an NFL starter. We need to play Khalif Barnes or Erik Pears, both started in the NFL and had some good years, they can’t be worse than Green.
- I hope once Chaz returns, DHB goes to the bench while Murphy keeps his job. I don’t care about their contracts, Murphy is outplaying DHB in every game.
- I really hope Gallery doesn’t miss the season, our left side of the line is pretty good with Henderson and Gallery there.
- Maybe Bush ends up a better overall RB than McFadden.
- Seems that JaMarcus can only complete passes to Miller. If he does’t find Miller, like yesterday: awfull completion percentage.
September 21st, 2009 at 3:35 am
MR:
Post#241 (about this blog)
I agree completely. You can’t carry on a dialogue because the posts are placed all over the place and not last.
Are you reading this Jerry?
Your old blog was better after registration but this new and improved one sucks.
The “Your posting to quickly” is likely to be that the blog’s time is wrong.
September 21st, 2009 at 3:42 am
Copenhagen:
Posts #254 and #255.
Yes you’re right.
I’ll go out whistling a happy tune although that isn’t easy because I keep grinding my teeth every time I think about Russell not completing a pass and that damn tire is gettin’ mighty heavy.
(Walks out whistling and grinding).
September 21st, 2009 at 3:49 am
We were very, very lucky. Chiefs were well prepared and played hard. Only inexperience and a bit of panic prevented them winning.
Cassel, even with one dodgy knee, completely outplayed Russell. Russell should be hugely embarrassed by his performance. One good drive can’t excuse 57 minutes of abject awfulness. It is good that a QB has confidence in his ability but Russell’s post-game comments just smack of the worst form of arrogance.
September 21st, 2009 at 4:02 am
Scottish…gotta be arrogant to be a top flight NFL QB!
Last week he went deep to take the lead and the D blew it.
This week he won the game on our last drive.
His arrogance is what got the job done.
He still sucks
September 21st, 2009 at 4:04 am
Copenhagen,
There is acceptable arrogance – as articulated by self-assurance and self-belief.
There is unacceptable arrogance – as articulated by complete delusion and an abdication of responsibility.
You can guess into which category I would place Mr Russell.
September 21st, 2009 at 4:20 am
JUST WIN BABY! I can’t beleive all the b’ing and c’ing by you guys. They won the game.
Chaz Schilens might be back next week in another winnable game against Denver.
The QB didn’t quit or pout or b*. He just kept playing through it all and led his team for the 2nd consecutive week when IT REALLY MATTERED.
I am as big a critic as anyone….but I NEVER COMPLAIN OR B WHEN THERE IS A WIN! They played better last week….how did that feel?!?
Russell is the man! I said it! He’s the man!
They will work through these early season issues….get Schilens back in the lineup…and continue to get Bush and DMAC involved in the passing game.
A win on the road against an AFC opponent to go to 1-1.
You think Tennessee is happier at 0-2.
Pitiful and pathetic. And that was not arrogance on the part of Russell in his comments….is called confidence! He knows where they are headed and so does his teammates…
EVen if fickle minded fans…who B after a win….don’T
Welcome to the NFL Michael Huff!
Just win baby! That is the point right. YOu play to win the game! not look pretty and compile nice stats.
MistaBrown….your boy Quinn has 0 4th QTR comeback from behind drives……0…and your team is 0-2….focus on that
September 21st, 2009 at 4:21 am
Russell is the guy here and will lead them to a sound victory next week!
September 21st, 2009 at 4:22 am
1-1 in a very winnable AFC West…and you guys are b’ing over statistics…
4th QTR game winning drive…..1-1….the QB keeps his cool and plays throught it all.
I’ll take that!
September 21st, 2009 at 4:42 am
Get. The. Hook.
September 21st, 2009 at 5:15 am
Good morning Nation, the only Nation
I get it what we want is to play hard and lose, rather then pulling off a last minute win. Well i say rag on our QB all you want, all i can say is hey he came through when it counts. It’s not like he doesnt know he needs to improve, would we rather have Quinn, Or even KCollins right now, come on give the guy some breathing room. So he makes a ton of money so what, we dont pay him. He is in his 3rd year true, but he is still the 3rd youngest QB in the league. Matt Ryan hasnt had to go through 4 different play callers in his career, or even the disfunction that is the raiders. At least in my eyes i do see improvement week to week. They didnt give up, last week i said Jmac is a leader look at the body language he wants to win. I heard last week that he would go to the sidelines and throw his beanie on and not even look at the pics of his play. Not true he sat on the bench next to the QB coach and they looked together. He shows poise he just needs to get into rythm a lot sooner. With our support he can do this, look at Huff a weaker man would have givin up, but he stuck it through and is playing with heart. Now where are the haters they seem to vanish and say they were behind him the whole time. When Jmac turns it around the same haters will do the same. It’s a shame that you only support when were winning. The team and players need support now Look at TRomo what will the fans say about him today… My opinion thats all.
September 21st, 2009 at 6:05 am
What is going to happen when the D is gassed by week five because they are on the field the whole game? K.C. is not a good football team, Baltimore put 500 yards on them but we could barley move the ball. I have been a huge Russel backer but what would this team look like if we had a quaterback who could complete even 50% of his passes? We would be a scary team to play. Keeep it up Huff.
September 21st, 2009 at 6:07 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Russell better be more accurate this week…there is so much a D can hold!!! He gave me a headache all game long…of course, until the last drive when he needed to be on and he came through!
September 21st, 2009 at 6:07 am
Maybe we should come out in the hurry-up, Russel seems to thrive in that hetic pace.
September 21st, 2009 at 6:09 am
“It’s a sign we can overcome adversity,” running back Darren McFadden offered.
Even when we play like well you know crap, we can win. Thats what the players will get out of this. The Chiefs played well last week also and lost. So do we want to be the Chiefs or she we say at least we won, in the end thats all that counts. The Broncos won by some miracle last week and now there 2-0 and in first place, so anything can happen. Lets take it to them next week and get ourselves in position to be in first.
Denver cannot stop the run at all so we should have a monster ground attach with some playaction, maybe even a WR bouble screen to Bey like SnB reccomends would be nice. See you in the House Of Pain sunday fellas. Lets not boo our players please lets show them were sticking by them.
September 21st, 2009 at 6:11 am
I think it’s pretty obvious that this is the last year Russell will be a starter in the NFL. He will collect his $32 million and then go home to Louisiana and open a BBQ restaurant.
September 21st, 2009 at 6:12 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S,HAVE BEEN CRITICAL OF HUFF,HOPE HE HAS FOUND HIS GAME.
September 21st, 2009 at 6:21 am
Khalif Relief
http://www.raidernationstation.com/exclusives
September 21st, 2009 at 6:23 am
Russell needs to take that tire from around his neck and start throwing footballs thru it…
September 21st, 2009 at 6:23 am
Good Morning NATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 21st, 2009 at 6:24 am
R8dr4lfe21…I’ll see you there!!!
Dirt Lot: I supported Huff in the beginning and have been very critical of him the past couple of years. So far, in 2 games, Huff has came to play. 3 INT’s and a fumble recovery…oh, and pass defensed when needed (especially on that 4th and 4 play yesterday to win the game)! So far he is the leader in INT’s…lets keep it coming Huff!!! Oh, and I will be sporting his jersey on Sunday!!!
September 21st, 2009 at 6:26 am
IMO, IF AL & CO. THOUGHT MR. RUSSELL WAS NOT THE MAN,BENCH HIM AND MOVE ON. YES HE IS BEING PAID 1ST OVERALL MONEY,BUT IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE TO LET HIM HURT THE CLUB BOTH WAY’S , ON THE FIELD AND CAP WISE..I SAY GIVE RUSSELL THIS YEAR AT LEAST.
September 21st, 2009 at 6:29 am
Jerry -
With the “expirement” of Eugene and Walker hanlding kick -offs???? Why do you suppose Al is not shouting to Amy Trask – ” Find me the number for Justin Miller’s Agent?” I mean come on, that was a joke/choke – no returns at all. Something has to be done – pelase ask them about Miller or at least what else they plan to do.
September 21st, 2009 at 6:31 am
284. J. Miller is injured with turf toe
September 21st, 2009 at 6:34 am
Last year some of us were SCREAMING about our conditioning or lack there of.Well after this very very loooooong defensive game we can put lack of conditioning comments where they belong…in the garbage can!!!Man Cable is who we been looking 4,imo.Gallery goes down and Chris Morris steps in and we dont miss a beat,imo.Some say he is 2 small or whatever,but if he is 2 small he makes up 4 it with BRAINS.
Knew going in that this IS AND ALWAYS BE A RIVALRY GAME…Cant stand KC but I respect the HELL out of them.I dont care if we win 1-0,we beat KC in KC!!!
Best 1st round pick by Big AL in the last 10 years…The Pride of Poland…SEABASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
His touch-backs are a GREAT ASSET to the defence,never-mind his booming 54 yard F/G’s!!!
Well there is STILL a lot of work 2 do in some areas but we went into 1 of the hostlie,if not THEE MOST hostile of places the NFL has 2 offer and got the “W”
JUST WIN BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 21st, 2009 at 6:37 am
We are so quick to jump on Russell, Bey needs to come off of his breaks better, Murphy is solid but still needs better route running. Russell needs to be more accurate, Mcfadden needs to run with more power, Mbush needs to stop running like Fargas, and our Oline needs to play like they need against San Diego. Everyone thought this would be an easy game, just like thought the Chargers would spank us, just like they thought the Pats were gonna spank the Jets. The point is a win is a win no matter what. The Pats could easily be 0-2 and we could be 2-0 but thats not the case. Right now Cutler, Romo, Quinn, and a number of other QB’s have more pics then Russell taking there team out of winnable situations. Russell is not dumb does he frustrate hell yes, but not dumb just inaccurate. Maybe some more power runs and screens will get us some yards. We stop running for a long period of time, while getting 3 and outs not all Russell’s fault, running the timing patterns with young rookies is hard especially when the D presses them they need to fight off of the press. Running more slants will stop this lets not go vertical all game long.
September 21st, 2009 at 6:42 am
Bob Marley Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 12:02 am
Retribution, check it out
Repost:
If anyone wants to get real pissed….
Go watch the Texans Jacoby Jones TD catch vs the Titans today, then go watch the Louis Murphy non-catch-TD vs San Diego.
After Mike Pereira and the refs went out of their way to explain how Murphy’s play was not a catch…..how are they going to justify this one……..what a joke.
I know, it was last week but come on, get over it….but how can they get away with these calls vs the raiders every time they get a chance?.
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Bob, they had the exact same issue int he Panthers game too and the replay ruled a TD. A bunch of idiots man. They said his knee was down before he lost the ball…
September 21st, 2009 at 6:44 am
Still don’t know how we won, but will take it. Raiders are 2 point favorites going into next week.
DHB looks like he is gaining some confidence out there. His once catch was all hands going over the middle, his TD that was called back was another good hands catch, and the one out-of-bounds catch was a good adjustment to the ball, will work out better when (not if) Jamarcus keeps that ball in the field of play.
Plus, the kid is a helluva of blocker, especially for a rookie. I saw him doing a good job a few times yesterday, and D-Mac doesn’t get an easy TD without DHB shoving his guy 3 yards into the end zone.
September 21st, 2009 at 6:45 am
BOTH KICKER’S HAD GOOD GAME’S YESTERDAY…
September 21st, 2009 at 6:46 am
thats why we need JLH soo bad…best slant WR in football,imo
September 21st, 2009 at 6:47 am
Raiders win, but lose Gallery
http://www.raidernationstation.com/2009_regular_season
Raiders need to better utilize their talent.
Keeping Miller into block so Russell could work on throwing to WR’s made sense considering KC’s DBs, but failed.
TE Miller might have been able to contribute more catching balls.
We’ll see against Denver who I think lost a starting LB yesterday…
September 21st, 2009 at 6:52 am
INTERNATION MEMO
To: RaiderRockstar
Cc: The rest of You People
Re: Employment of Michael Huff
My esteemed AM colleagues, it is my duty to acknowledge mistakes in a previous evaluation of said employee in the defensive back department, Michael Huff.
Effective immediately, this office recommends all efforts be made to encourage the continued outstanding performance of Mr. Huff. Our organization is well served by his exemplary commitment to customer value.
Best Regards,
Bo Schembechler Jackson
Director, Midwest Operations
September 21st, 2009 at 6:53 am
Hey Vegas…that might be a smart bet…but how’s their D?
And I agree…it looks like DHB is gaining confidence out there? Crab who?
September 21st, 2009 at 6:54 am
I put $20 on the Saints to win it all yesterday at half-time. Got 11-1 odds, after the game, it was down to 9-1.
September 21st, 2009 at 6:55 am
Some end around with Bey on an aggressive D would gain massive yards. Getting him involved getting him dirty, giving him confidence. Imo i think we play to compact we need to spread the D out then run on them. Make them cover with LB’s we have to much speed for that.
September 21st, 2009 at 6:55 am
296. Wait! I thought SD is supposed to be the media’s super bowl darlings this year! LMAO!
September 21st, 2009 at 6:56 am
Alisgod yeah man I simply choked on my beer after I saw that catch with jones of the texans, and guess what? It wasn’t even disputed, I mean WTMF!!! Something needs to be done!! If that wasn’t a td murphy caught last week, that one from jones CLEARLY WASN’T!
September 21st, 2009 at 6:59 am
???
September 21st, 2009 at 7:01 am
I think Vegas is talking about the Saints because of his wager…
You’re right…after 2 games Russell was not good at all, but he did give us the chance to win it last week and won it this week. Now, why he only puts together TD drives at the end is beyond me. I hope he gets it right, or I agree…bench him. However, how will Gradowski do? That remains to be seen…
September 21st, 2009 at 7:02 am
Not saying they are going to win it all, but I should have the chance to hedge it later in the playoffs. They should make it to the NFC championship game.
Guess the preseason disaster against the Saints wasn’t all that big of deal, lol. Our D is our strength of our time (with our kickers). Hey whatever works.
Enjoy the day fellas!!!
September 21st, 2009 at 7:03 am
NO way can anyone here make excuses for Russell….. PERIOD…..He is terrible. Yes he had a great last drive but that’s expected of him. I could not believe what I was watching. He needs to be benched if he has another game like the first 2. I don’t agree to give him this year and then see. We are a decent team and I think we can make the playoffs this year.
September 21st, 2009 at 7:03 am
Vegas,I Think you mean the AFC
September 21st, 2009 at 7:06 am
Now be honest guys, by the fourth quarter weren’t you wondering if I might be right about Danny Southwick?
September 21st, 2009 at 7:07 am
vegas raider Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 6:44 am
Still don’t know how we won, but will take it. Raiders are 2 point favorites going into next week.
DHB looks like he is gaining some confidence out there. His once catch was all hands going over the middle, his TD that was called back was another good hands catch, and the one out-of-bounds catch was a good adjustment to the ball, will work out better when (not if) Jamarcus keeps that ball in the field of play.
Plus, the kid is a helluva of blocker, especially for a rookie. I saw him doing a good job a few times yesterday, and D-Mac doesn’t get an easy TD without DHB shoving his guy 3 yards into the end zone.
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Raiders are 2 point favorites???
wow… i gotta input all the stuff from this week into my spreadsheet…
but that line surprises me…
September 21st, 2009 at 7:07 am
Orton had 263 passing yards and a TD.
donkey RB’s gained 186 rushing yards and 2 TD’s
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I’m guessing they started licking thier chops when they saw DC Rob Ryan on the schedule again. Week 16 is a guaranteed victory
where are all the slob ryan lovers?
where are all the huff haters?
i swear some of you guys are allergic to common sense…
September 21st, 2009 at 7:08 am
vegas raider Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 6:54 am
I put $20 on the Saints to win it all yesterday at half-time. Got 11-1 odds, after the game, it was down to 9-1.
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only an injury to Breese is gonna stop the Saints…
you might want to throw some money on the Jets…
September 21st, 2009 at 7:11 am
BSJ, you’re not a fortune teller. anybody who has seen Danny Southwick play knows that he is a better football player than JaWalrus. most guys in here saw that he didn’t get drafted, played in the arena league and went to 4 different colleges. they wrote him off without first getting an education. are you surprised?
I’m not.
September 21st, 2009 at 7:14 am
whoa! didn’t read the above comment …
BSJ = a class act?
i might need to read that again. haha
j/k
September 21st, 2009 at 7:20 am
Heyward-Bey will get better each week. the game will slow down for him and Russell will have a go-to receiver who isn’t named Chaz
too bad JaSnickers can’t hit the broad side of a barn…
are we still blaming the WR’s for his accuracy problems?
If we start the dungver game with three consecutive 3 & outs they might have 10-14 points on the board. Buckhalter/Moreno are better than LJ/Savage and Denver’s OL is one of the best in the league
September 21st, 2009 at 7:28 am
Raider 25
Heres one: How about WR’s with NO NFL experience?
JR obviously needs to improve but he is a second year QB. He will inmprove. Were Warner,Plunkett and Gannon busts?
How did Quinn look with the Browns? How about Romo?
Do you even watch other NFL games?
Simple fact is that JR is tremendous in terms of ball security and avoiding INT’s.
Avoiding turnovers will win far more games than forcing the ball into tight coverage.
JR takes very few chances and that is smart.
JR did it when we needed it most. That was his first late game winning drive and there are many more to come.
September 21st, 2009 at 7:29 am
be back later. work to do
September 21st, 2009 at 7:29 am
RR
Let’s not start with comparing this year’s defense to last year’s.
Ellis over Burgess/Scott.
Seymour over Richardson
Bryant over Sands
Shaugnessy
We dramatically upgraded our defensive line which is the primary reason for our improved defensive play.
I agree that Marshall is an improvement over Ryan but better players on the line is the driving force.
September 21st, 2009 at 7:30 am
Charlie Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 7:28 am
Raider 25
Heres one: How about WR’s with NO NFL experience?
JR obviously needs to improve but he is a second year QB. He will inmprove. Were Warner,Plunkett and Gannon busts?
How did Quinn look with the Browns? How about Romo?
Do you even watch other NFL games?
Simple fact is that JR is tremendous in terms of ball security and avoiding INT’s.
Avoiding turnovers will win far more games than forcing the ball into tight coverage.
JR takes very few chances and that is smart.
JR did it when we needed it most. That was his first late game winning drive and there are many more to come.
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ok, did you watch the game???? Seriously did you? I don’t care who you are you couldn’t catch those passes from Russell, or the passes he threw that were batted down, come on it’s not like he’s a short quarterback. He will improve???? how many more years are you going to say that? Last year he didn’t have time so it was the line’s fault…this year he’s getting the time and he’s not getting it done.
September 21st, 2009 at 7:30 am
I can’t wait to see how are rookie WRs play once Chad gets back on the field. With Miller crossing the middle Chaz going verticle it should really open some things up on the field. Right now they are all over our rookie WRs. DHB is easily double teamed so it will be ab I opener to see what goes down once Chaz is back in action.
Lets here it for Watkins working hard and putting himself in the mix as well. What a clutch catch he made.
Now the X Factor is Russel. Come on man we really need you. He has to continue working on his technique with that strong arm. Also over the off season this year the guy has to train and loose some of that weight.
September 21st, 2009 at 7:30 am
Let me also remind you that Gannon was a bench warmer for KC and had lots of time to work on his game not in the eye of the media. Gannon had quality QBs to follow and coaches to develop his game. The Raiders have not been the type of franchise to develop young players especially the QB position. The Raiders have been the type of franchise to go out and “buy” an established veteran to do the job.
Our whole franchise has to eveolve.
September 21st, 2009 at 7:38 am
It’s always great to get a win in KC.
Nice tackle by Nmamdi to end the half!
Nice hit my Morrison on the scrambling QB on their last drive. It looked like Cassel felt it.
Nice to see Watkins come thru.
Nice to see Huff used in a way that really helps the team.
No matter how the offense played, it is great to win on a 4th quarter come from behind touchdown drive.
When the Raiders line up in the 3 receiver sets, I wanted them to put DMAC as the 3rd receiver in the slot, Bush in the backfield. Even though Watkins (slot receiver) made the big catch. I would still like to see DMAC in the slot on those formations.
September 21st, 2009 at 7:38 am
Yeah Stabler76!
The coaches need to think of some more creative ways to create space for DMAC. He is not a power runner like Michael Bush. He kind of needs to get his speed up with a couple of screen plays small catches than get his running game going. He needs more Reggie Bush type plays to operate.
September 21st, 2009 at 7:39 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 7:11 am
BSJ, you’re not a fortune teller. anybody who has seen Danny Southwick play knows that he is a better football player than JaWalrus. most guys in here saw that he didn’t get drafted, played in the arena league and went to 4 different colleges. they wrote him off without first getting an education. are you surprised?
I’m not.
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You sheep: do not sleep on DSmooth!!! Football Jesus will set us free!
September 21st, 2009 at 7:40 am
well maybe it’s time for Russell to be a bench warmer and learn. We need someone that can play now. I wish it would of worked out with Garcia at least for this year.
September 21st, 2009 at 7:41 am
What’s up, AM crew?
RRS, your boy Huff came through two weeks in a row.
He deserves it, after all the ridicule he put up with and acted like a pro. 2 weeks into his season, DHB has already shown less composure than Huff, at least in the media.
Good job, Huff, we were all rooting for you, now you got the juice.
Ok, this is crazy and I know you guys won’t buy it, but oh well.
JamMarcus Russell is the man.
Throw out the stats. Throw out the pass to Johnnie Lee Higgins.
There are a lot of more talented – flat out better – QBs that lost this weekend. Guys who didn’t put their teams in position to win.
Russell did. Again.
Listen, throw out the stats.
The guy put together two gutsy drives to close out both halves last Monday, and put together another gutsy drive to win the game yesterday.
He did stink it up. And a more capable QB would have more completions, more sustained drives, maybe more TDs. As a matter of fact, a good QB played opposite him, had more completions, longer drives, a TD, but made mistakes.
Why do you call that play to end the half, and more importantly why do you throw that pass? Two picks to the same safety?
Russell plays on a team where the defense will put him in position to win most games. And he took both opportunities this year and succeded. Yes, succeeded.
Look at the throws he makes when he’s confident. He’s money. It’s starting halves better and sustaining drives that we will certainly need.
It won’t be his team until he can make all the throws, and he’s pretty far away from that.
But if Aso can be an All Pro, and Huff can play at a high level, and Gallery can play at a high level, Russell can too. It may just take longer than most of you are willing to wait.
KC challenged Russell to win. They MADE him win and he did. They put the game in his hands.
The guy is clutch.
He has the poise. He’s cooler than the other side of the pillow. He’s got the guts. He just needs his game to be far more polished.
I’d rather have a guy that’s clutch and has guts who needs to refine, than a refined guy who isn’t clutch and has no guts.
If he continues to get WRs killed and he starts losing games, then panic. For now, hope he grows and develops chemistry with his young WRs.
September 21st, 2009 at 7:43 am
Yes he did it. Gave them a chance to win. But we shouldn’t be in that position to begin with.
September 21st, 2009 at 7:45 am
Pete, did you copyright “You Sheep” too?
If so, put it on my big ole tab…
September 21st, 2009 at 7:45 am
is having a nonchalant QB really a good thing?
YOU PEOPLE always talk about how Russell doesn’t throw INT’s, but how many did SD and KC drop the last 2 weeks?
5 or 6?
September 21st, 2009 at 7:48 am
Raider 25
I agree Russel is not where he needs to be but man you are so negative on the guy if he threw for 280 yards, 4 TDs, 1INT and won the game you would still find issues with his game.
I am not impressed with Russel yet but he does make some gutsy throws. Now his inconssistant play will kill you if he does notget it together but give him a chance.
When a veteran has a bad game and pulls out a win like say a P Rivers, they say that is what makes him great! He can pla a bad game but make it count when it needs to be done. The way he handled that last drive for a win is where we need him to be.
I think it is crazy to think that Garcia would have led us to the promise land. There is a reason he was cut and a reason no one jumped on him the day after he was released.
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Raider25 Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 7:43 am
Yes he did it. Gave them a chance to win. But we shouldn’t be in that position to begin with.
September 21st, 2009 at 7:48 am
Well, how about those Lakers!
September 21st, 2009 at 7:49 am
you start a game in that position
September 21st, 2009 at 7:50 am
Interesting take on Russel.
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LA to TheBay Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 7:54 am
What he has, you can’t teach. What he doesn’t have, you can, for the most part.
September 21st, 2009 at 7:52 am
Intersting viewpoint LA.
Russell seems to be playing like Plunkett before we signed him…
Is it the urgency of the two-minute drill that helps JRuss? Do they have a no huddle package to go to to keep JRuss focused during the rest of the game?
Maybe the Walrus just plays better by the seat of his pants.
September 21st, 2009 at 7:52 am
Things happen throughout the course of the game. Should have been a win should have been a loss. Shoulda made the play, coulda made it.
I guess my point is, it could be a lot better. There are more negatives than positives with JR’s game, but think about the positives. Let me give you an example.
Negatives:
Not in shape
Doesn’t move safties with his eyes
Locks on to receivers
Progresses usually to two reads, rarely 3 or more
Not accurate to the outside or when he lacks confidence
Inconsistent with footwork
Positives:
Gutsy
Cool/calm/collected
Cannon arm
Very accurate in the middle and throws strikes
Good footwork when he sets up properly
Tough to work on accuracy. He needs more familarity. More comfortable with throws outside, more comfortable with the playbook, more comfortable and trusting of his receivers.
When the trust is there, the throws are there. Not saying it’s a good thing, just saying it is what it is.
September 21st, 2009 at 7:54 am
What he has, you can’t teach. What he doesn’t have, you can, for the most part.
September 21st, 2009 at 7:55 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 7:45 am
is having a nonchalant QB really a good thing?
YOU PEOPLE always talk about how Russell doesn’t throw INT’s, but how many did SD and KC drop the last 2 weeks?
5 or 6?
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Maybe his throws are so bad they are almost uncatchable? By either side.
September 21st, 2009 at 7:55 am
BSJ: I’m thinking you should go ahead and purchase that Walrus costume to wear in the black hole. this week against Dungver would be a great time to wear it.
I think he’d play inspired football
September 21st, 2009 at 7:55 am
Lamar Odom got engaged. Good or bad for the team? I say bad. Then again, my defense got a lot better after I got married.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/TV/09/18/khloe.kardashian.engaged/
September 21st, 2009 at 7:57 am
Maybe Lamar will lay off the candy now that he has other things to eat?
September 21st, 2009 at 7:57 am
“Maybe the Walrus just plays better by the seat of his pants.”
I think this is correct to a degree.
He doesn’t look good to open halves, so his locker room adjustments aren’t happening. But his on the field adjustments, especially coming out of the timeouts, usually produce very positive plays.
He was a lot better yesterday of getting the ball past the corner and underneath the safety. Problem is, all his good throws occur in the middle.
And Cable will not give him a break. which is a good thing. You notice Cable is commited to winning with JR rather than in spite of him? Whether that’s all Al Davis or not, I don’t care. We’re stuck with the guy and his contract, let’s get the kid playing.
September 21st, 2009 at 7:58 am
Russell HAS to have a good game against Denver and I hope he does but if he doesn’t and it’s the same old Russell then I think you have to look at plan “B”
September 21st, 2009 at 7:58 am
We don’t have a plan B. Garbagekowski? Come on…
September 21st, 2009 at 8:00 am
i thought plan B was a fake FG rush attempt by Janikowski ???
September 21st, 2009 at 8:00 am
Lat time Russell played Denver, he was 10/11 and a TD.
September 21st, 2009 at 8:00 am
I agree that that there’s no plan B that’s why I put it “B”. Not a Garcia fan but I think he’s a great backup and would of won both games with him.
Can’t someone teach Russell how not to stare down his receivers????? EVERY pass he stares down his target
Rookie qb…that’s funny…and now rookie receivers. A lot of excuses. HE CAN’T THROW ACCURATELY!!!!!!! Hasn’t since he’s been here and I agree you can’t teach that.
September 21st, 2009 at 8:01 am
Russell looked a lot better with Chaz/JLH/Curry/Lelie than he has with Rookie/Rookie/Watkins.
September 21st, 2009 at 8:02 am
Trade for Kevin Kolb before the Eagles fall in love with him and it is too late!!!!
Convert Russell to a G or RT.
September 21st, 2009 at 8:02 am
How about Cable being commited to win with this guy because he needs to develop like every rookie QB and he has the tools to do it.
That has been the issue with the Raider franchise we have not done a good job of developing young talent. Especially on the offensive side of the ball.
Let me remind you that Farve was cut from the Falcons and also had a tendancy to throw a lot of INTs with that strong arm. But when he is/was in rythm he was one of the best.
QBs with big play arms always think the they can make that big strike.
September 21st, 2009 at 8:03 am
Yesterday’s game reminded me of my son’s JV QB a few years back. The dude was so awful, the parents had to hold their tongue, due to his parents in the stands, feeling quite embarassed. What is funny, like yesterday, my son’s team came back with a defensive interception to win the game.
I can’t tell you how mad I’ve been still from last week game with San Diego. The KC game was even worse.
This KC team reminds me of us the year we drafted Jamarcus, we were pretty bad, with talent lacking in many areas. This KC team played inspired football yesterday, like we did Monday night against SD.
Ask you self “how many times have the Raiders played poorly and won” in the last 6 years. Haven’t we just played poorly and always found a way to lose.
What are the reasons Russell stinks, to high heaven. Please don’t give me any dreamy suggestions, I just want absolutes with evidence of his progress.
My sense is, he is working hard, but hardly working.
My biggest and greatest fear is Jamarcus is looking like a former Raider QB, that had the word “POTENTIAL” next to him also.
He was given the keys to the franchise and asked to guide the team, yet excuses were made for him also. Who do I speak, you young guys may not remember him, I sure do, MARK WILSON.
Same height as Russell, weight was different, strong arm and came from a good college program. The similarity hopefully ends there. Mark Wilson played well, and then he would go out on gameday and just stink up the place. You would shake your head and wonder why, all the tools to be a good to great QB were there. The work never seem to pay off and the organization moved on and my biggest fears are, we are looking at the same picture replayed, but this time in HD.
Your voices are the same back then, Wilson like Jamarcus can play one game great, and you start to think were turning the corner, then the next week, you yell and scream ‘WHAT THE WAS THAT”.
Let’s hope Jamarcus can remove the label of a potential bust, to the others before him as a first round QB. Too many first round picks are mowing lawns and to many fans are wondering why.
September 21st, 2009 at 8:03 am
and make dungver 2-1
September 21st, 2009 at 8:04 am
Mostly everyone in here was down on Huff, now that he’s showing up, now the bashers are in here like they’ve been rooting for the guy since day one… just like Russell all you bashers and you know who you are will be singling a different tune when he puts it together….. things take time and he will get his act together. I can’t wait to see tha haters and bashers concede to russells improvement!
September 21st, 2009 at 8:04 am
this time Russell is probably 10/30…
you know dungver is going to have 8 guys in the box to try and stop the run and have the Walrus beat them with his arm. tough assignment when Chump locks down one half of the field (like Nnamdi)
September 21st, 2009 at 8:04 am
Favre was’t cut. He was traded to the Packers for the #17 pick in I think 1992.
September 21st, 2009 at 8:04 am
Russel is having issues because he is playing with starting rookie WRS and Plan B, WRs for the most of it.
He will never be a Drew Breeze type of accurate player but he will improve.
September 21st, 2009 at 8:06 am
I can’t wait to see tha haters and bashers concede to russells improvement!
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I’ll be the first one in line DBW
it’s gotta happen first though!
September 21st, 2009 at 8:08 am
I’d like to see Russell become a McNabb/McNair type of QB, but right now thats like comparing a sack of diamonds to a sack of dog crap …
September 21st, 2009 at 8:08 am
Hey, not trying to be funny here, but Garcia may get cut again when Vick gets re-instated…of course, unless they do keep 4 qbs. Haha…
but all jokes aside, Russell better have a good game against Denver at home this Sunday! We have to get to 2-1!
September 21st, 2009 at 8:10 am
Good point legend, only the winning franchises are patient enough to develop the youg inexperienced talent and it looks like we are headed that way… we will take our lumps along the way but we must stay the course
September 21st, 2009 at 8:10 am
So Russell has clearly regressed from the end of last season.
Reasons why?
Is it because of the top notch coaching staff?
Is it because of the QB camp?
Is it because of the Rookie WRs?
Is it the offensive line?
Is it because he is fat and out of shape?
Is he partying too much?
Is it a lack of work ethic?
Is it a lack of heart?
Is it because his motivation seems to be the fear of failure and not the drive to succeed?
What the hell is wrong with this guy? I have defended him as a young QB, but that was in the hopes that he would show some progress. He seems to have taken 10 steps backwards since last year.
September 21st, 2009 at 8:10 am
Dakota,
That’s right my bad! My point is if the Falcons new how good Farve was going to be they would have kept that falcon on his helmet delt with his development and possible won achampionship with Jamal Anderson.
Dakota Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 8:04 am
Favre was’t cut. He was traded to the Packers for the #17 pick in I think 1992.
September 21st, 2009 at 8:11 am
DirtyBathWater Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 8:04 am
Mostly everyone in here was down on Huff, now that he’s showing up, now the bashers are in here like they’ve been rooting for the guy since day one…
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Not true. I released a public internation memo expressing my contrition for hating on the shlonghorn Mr. Huff.
September 21st, 2009 at 8:12 am
I did not hate Huff, I just did not see his worth.
Dakota gave some examples months ago as to why Huff was worth keeping and convinced me at that time.
Just like I think Russel is going to be a good QB one day but not today. He also needs to loose some gut for real!
September 21st, 2009 at 8:13 am
we’re 1-1 right now. tied with SD and on top of the chefs
where is richochet? sulking?
September 21st, 2009 at 8:13 am
yep…stay the course,all speed ahead
September 21st, 2009 at 8:15 am
Dakota,
I don’t think it’s fair to blame the coaches, the o-line or even the WR’s for Russell’s regression.
everything else you listed remains a possibility…
September 21st, 2009 at 8:16 am
Huff has had a nice couple of games…I will wait to revoke his non-bust status until I see it on a consistent basis.
Stuart Schweigert picked off a couple of passes in 2007 too…
September 21st, 2009 at 8:18 am
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Please call the Raider Nation with any information to his wereabouts.
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September 21st, 2009 at 8:21 am
MAN, I NEED SOME MORE COFFFE!!!!
Raider Rockstar schooled me on Huff-n-Puff being a keeper.
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CJ Legend 34 Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 8:12 am
I did not hate Huff, I just did not see his worth.
Dakota gave some examples months ago as to why Huff was worth keeping and convinced me at that time.
Just like I think Russel is going to be a good QB one day but not today. He also needs to loose some gut for real!
September 21st, 2009 at 8:22 am
Anyone still believe we are going 10-6 and contending for the division?
I am starting to fear for my 6-10 prediction….
Al, you better have some investors lined up to buy some of the team because in all likelihood we are picking in the top 10, if not the top five again.
I can’t wait to see which safety you select.
September 21st, 2009 at 8:23 am
Russell isn’t Bress and we don’t run a system like that currently.
Al Davis wants 70s football. Gutsy plays from superior athletes where their talent is on display.
They want Russell to go deep and Cable won’t baby him. I think it’s good, but Cable would be smarter working from the ground up, then opening up the deep stuff for him.
Once JR gets confident in intermediate throws, his accuracy deep will improve.
If you think about the play calling, you will see why completion percentage is so far down.
Brees gets the pass to use up to all 5 eligible receivers on any given play at any given time.
Russell is being told to throw bombs.
It’s apples to oranges.
The good news is Kiffin isn’t around to baby Russell and keep the game out of his hands.
The bad news is Kiffin isn’t around to baby Russell and keep the game out of his hands.
Unless Russell puts you in position to win games. which he just did. Twice.
I like the so-called intangivles. The stuff you can’t teach. I still think Hackett isn’t enough, and JR needs a an extra guy in there, someone he can trust. Gannon seems like a perfect fit, but I think Davis is still disenchanted with ol Rich and vice versa.
September 21st, 2009 at 8:23 am
Huff has been good since the beginning, he even played really good last year this guy was matched up ONE ON ONE WITH GATES AND GONZALEZ and played well, it was Cables stupid behind that yanked him cause he had 2 bad games where he missed open field tackles. And he put in Eugene and he sucks there is no way eugene is better than Huff, im just glad Huff continued to work at his craft like a true professional. Now the results are showing up……just like Nnamdi, people were calling him a bust it took him a few years he worked on his craft and look at the results. That shows man that people gotta have a chance to grow,and not be soo quick to pull the trigger on guys its absolutely nuts!
September 21st, 2009 at 8:24 am
I appreciate that people are trying to find positives in yesterday’s game.
I wish I could.
It’s not just that Russell looked impossibly bad or that McFadden has no explosiveness or that the front seven got pushed around by one of the worst lines in the league.
It’s that the team looked brutally unprepared to play, got completely outcoached and had no fire.
I’m looking for progress, and I didn’t see much other than the pass protection and Huff. The Raiders couldn’t have beaten any team in the league yesterday other than KC (and maybe Cleveland).
The Jets have less talent than the Raiders but are a much better prepared and tougher team — and they’re not afraid to pressure the quarterback. The Raiders sit back in their high school defense and make Matt Cassel look great.
What a lousy game.
September 21st, 2009 at 8:24 am
Raider25
Garcia could not even play over Kolb in Philly.
Playing a backup is a waste.
We are not a playoff team yet and JR’s development or lack of it will determine when /if we become one.
My point is that this is what you get with a second year QB that has more time in the NFL than all of his skill position supporting cast. Inconsistency is what we will get for much of this season.
I prefer the approach of building exceptional line play like the Ravens then let Flacco hand off more than any QB in the NFL last year.
We decdied to build with skill guys and we will have growing pains.
September 21st, 2009 at 8:26 am
with the time the line was giving Russell I beg to differ about Garcia. He would of made a difference but then again anyone back there would of made a difference. I’m not a Garcia fan at all but he has the experience and would of done fine. With that being said, Russell looked terrible and continues to look terrible. The wr’s will be fine I just don’t think Russell has it at this level…please Russell prove me wrong and I will be the first to say I was wrong. I’m not like a lot of these pretenders on here that love to bash someone when they are down. I was a Russell believer. I even ran out and bought his jersey, but I will not wear it again. HUGE game Sunday
September 21st, 2009 at 8:26 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 8:13 am
we’re 1-1 right now. tied with SD and on top of the chefs
where is richochet? sulking?
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Actually, Ricky was in rare form yesterday. Immediately after the game, she was in here posting like a madwoman.
September 21st, 2009 at 8:27 am
Dakota Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 8:28 am
Bad weekend for the Mormons…Utah and BYU both went down.
haha
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But Southwick’s stock is rising like Netscape in 97!
September 21st, 2009 at 8:28 am
Bad weekend for the Mormons…Utah and BYU both went down.
haha
September 21st, 2009 at 8:38 am
Just like Jerry said…as of lately, the Raiders tend to follow up a decent game (the SD game) with a flop. Yeah we won, but it was an empty victory.
September 21st, 2009 at 8:41 am
“and they’re not afraid to pressure the quarterback. The Raiders sit back in their high school defense and make Matt Cassel look great.
What a lousy game.”
Are you serious?
That defense won the game, along with a clutch offensive drive to go 69 yards in a 2 min warning drill.
We made Cassell look good? He’s a good QB, we don’t need to do that. As a matter of fact, we made him look like he threw 2 INTs and 2 poor decisions (to close the first half and to close the game).
That high school defense worked the Chiefs, a team that put up 24 in an shootout with Baltimore last week.
Division games are close, despite the record or talent level at any given time, ESPECIALLY the Chiefs v. the Raiders.
You don’t need to blitz much when you have natural pressure from your front four. Tom Brady was quoted as saying that’s the most dangerous D one can face.
We now have that D. And a really young offense that will make mistakes. Don’t get to cozy watching teams like Miami go from worst to first.
We were a loooong way away from being competitive.
Don’t get too cozy watching guys like Flacco and Sanchez, who came to playoff calibre teams.
We sucked. Russell had Kiffin, Knapp, and Culpepper to look to.
This will take longer than you want.
Maybe if we had a super QB, we would be an instant playoff contender. We don’t. We’re with Russell for better or worse and after success of Aso, Gallery, and maybe Huff, you really think Al’s gonna give up on a #1 overall any time soon?
September 21st, 2009 at 8:43 am
Commish: With the 5th pick in the 2010 NFL draft, the Oakland Raiders select Taylor Mays, Safety, USC.
September 21st, 2009 at 8:47 am
JRUSS brought us back late last week against the DOLTS. His numbers where good for you stat keepers.
Then on the road against a division foe in thier home opener JRUSS has a bad game for 58 minutes. Then they spread it out and let him do his thing. He has a winning mind set and is cool under pressure. Maybe if the coaching staff tried a play action pass on 1st down or did a 4 wide set on first down in the 1st quarter? Hey how about a 2 minute drill in the 1st quarter to get a rythem for JRUSS…He looks a lot better in a 3 WR set…..
September 21st, 2009 at 8:48 am
What the heck?
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/tech/2009/09/18/sot.panama.mystery.creature.cnn
September 21st, 2009 at 8:48 am
If Huff shows up all year, and we drafted Mitchell in 09 and Branch in 08, you really think we’re taking a safety?
With the 15th pick in the 2010 draft, the Raiders take an offensive lineman.
It was an ugly game, sure – but we did what good teams do: manufacture a win.
September 21st, 2009 at 8:48 am
Traded back from the #3 pick Bo…sorry, that is what 3-13 gets us.
September 21st, 2009 at 8:50 am
15th pick lol? Not if Russell doesn’t improve right the fart now!
September 21st, 2009 at 8:50 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 8:54 am
Dakota Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 8:43 am
Commish: With the 5th pick in the 2010 NFL draft, the Oakland Raiders select Taylor Mays, Safety, USC.
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We traded up?
LOL, that’s what I’m talkin’ bout, BSJ.
A little bit of kool aid in the morning hits the spot.
September 21st, 2009 at 8:54 am
Dakota Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 8:43 am
Commish: With the 5th pick in the 2010 NFL draft, the Oakland Raiders select Taylor Mays, Safety, USC.
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We traded up?
September 21st, 2009 at 8:54 am
I think the right side of the line is built for run. Green is a liability in the pass game, but a hell of run blocker.
The line will be built for run because it is our biggest asset on that side of the ball right now.
They protect Russell’s blind side and have him looking right and then coming back to the underneath route.
Which is kind of ass-backwards if we’re putting the game in the hands of our young QB.
And where was Zack Miller in that game? We want to sustain drives, give the ball to that man.
September 21st, 2009 at 8:55 am
Al needs to take a long hard look at our O-line, JR will come around, he needs more protection that the colapsable line did not afford yesterday. The o-line took away our entire running game, you can’t make a hole when your linemen are on their backs!
September 21st, 2009 at 8:59 am
Raider25
I am frustrated as well but JR will have more positive moments than negative as the season progresses. Look how he finished last season.
My point is that if you look around the league there are alot of QB’S that look really bad and have a much more expereinced supporting cast than JR.
The fans in Philly have thought Mcnabb has been a bust for his entire career.
The Dolts gave up on Brees.
The Chiefs went with Grbac over Gannon.
Eli Manning still has a career passer rating of about 77. He was a complete “bust” then he won the Super Bowl in his FOURTH year with anout a 75 passer rating.
JR can make every throw imaginable and has demonstrated it though inconsistently.
It is way too early to judge.
September 21st, 2009 at 9:00 am
We could be 2-0, or maybe we start Garcia, who gets happy feet when the pocket is still intact, and he gets laid out, or throws a pick.
I’ll take a for sure 1-1 with JR then a shouldacouldawoulda 2-0 with Garcia or Kitna (wow, really?)
You guys remember JR outplaying Garcia last year?
When the game was on the line, and JR had the ball, he threw well and had a beast of a RB close it out for him. When the game was on the line for Garcia, he threw INTs and got sacked.
September 21st, 2009 at 9:00 am
Did any one see that single LB blitz the Ravens put on Sproles to stuff him and end the game , wish we had did that last week and the past few years , did you see how the Jets pressured Brady all day and won, that’s what our LBs need to start doing , we will never get big leads and be able to rest our defense unless we start pressuring QBs with at least one LB or DB blitzing, if we don’t pressure Denver next week forget about winning. We have some the fastest LBs in the league yet they have fewest sacks of any LB group in the league.
September 21st, 2009 at 9:02 am
Wow..I can’t believe we won that game!
The defense looks very solid.
The offense looks pretty good besides the QB..(wow is he bad).
I’m reading some people comments on how “JRussel had the game winning drive two weeks in a row.” ( you people are such “homers”)
If the Raiders had an ave. QB (ie John frikn Kitna) they would be 2-0 and the talk of the NFL. JRuss can’t even throw a screen for crying out loud.
I see Priest comment”screens are timing patters”. Dude I played QB since I was 12yrs old..played QB at Div. III school..There is very little timing is screen patterns.. You let the d-line in, you find the RB, and throw it to em..Period! A pop-warner QB could throw and NFL screen! No timing whats so ever
We could be 2-0! We could be laughing at everyone in the NFL..if we only had a decent QB..I can’t wait till we get to the half point of this season and when JRuss is competing 40% of his passing. What is the excuse gonna be? Timing on screen passes? Bwhahahah! Timing on screen passes…thats the freaking icing on the excuses! screen passes hahahaha! wow..hahaha
September 21st, 2009 at 9:04 am
I’m not making excuses for the guy, I’m giving my assessment.
He admitted to leaving points on the field.
I remember Huff admitting that his poor play was on him. He worked on it and has visibly improved.
He was really sloppy and inaccurate. Until it counted.
A TD strike to where only his man could get it to close out the 1st half. A 57 yard bomb on 4th and 15 to put his team in position to win. And going down the field in a must-win situation in a 2 min drill and winning.
Gutsy.
September 21st, 2009 at 9:04 am
Russel is proving to be an excellent game manager. He doesn’t turn the ball over and comes through when needed. He may not be the next Tom Brady, but he very well could be another Trent Dilfer. And, he won a championship!
September 21st, 2009 at 9:05 am
Frak! Taylor Mays ? If a DB it would be Eric Berry! Forget Kiffin, business is business , Berry is the best DB in the country!
September 21st, 2009 at 9:08 am
The Good, the Bad and the Ugly…
angelodebo –feel like we are watching Marc WIison or Jay Schroeder??? That was ugly…
The Good–We have Center Field….Huff-4 picks in 2 games…Feel like he is gonna have an Eric Tyuner year (RI)
Gallery’s leg-bad…running to the right side behind green??? LOrd….
September 21st, 2009 at 9:09 am
JRUSS will be our starting qb for longer that Angelodebo will be a Raider fan……
JRUSS 1st year under Hacket and has started 19 NFL games he had 1 really bad game and everyone wants to throw him under the bus..lol
What kind of fan are you? fair weather comes to mind.
September 21st, 2009 at 9:10 am
CJ Legend 34,
Huff is scheduled to earn over $5 million next year, the final year of his contract. This year he’s making under $1 million. Thats less than Hiram Eugene!
I’m not convinced he’ll be with the team next year, even if he turns in a Pro Bowl season. Cable pulls him off the field during running plays and according to almost everybody Al Davis doesn’t like him. He just didn’t want to let him go and essentially pay big money for nothing.
I just didn’t want to see Huff axed before he ever got a shot to play his natural position under a capable Def. Coordinator. kudos to AD and the coaching staff for being patient and giving him a chance.
He’s not just proving me right, he’s proving Kirk & Nnamdi right
that makes 2 players who Cable initially put in the doghouse, who came on strong and may have saved his job. Bush & Huff.
September 21st, 2009 at 9:11 am
Been a Raider fan since Bo Jackson. Please..if can’t see that Russel has been TERRIBLE in the last two games then your blind or dumb..Which is it?
You think he’s playing well?
September 21st, 2009 at 9:13 am
That is one aspect that is positive. No turnovers..But god..how bad can a QB look and the fans still support em?
I want JRuss to be winner more than anyone.
but I’m not a dreamer, I know football..and I know a good QB when I see one..and trust me..I don’t see one in Oakland. Sure he can improve..but anyone can improve from this two game start.
I’ll give him til the half way point. If it is still this bad? Bench him and play someone else..
September 21st, 2009 at 9:14 am
With the exception of Gannon, Russel is the best QB the Raiders have had since Jim Plunkett.
September 21st, 2009 at 9:14 am
I mentioned 2 college players on this board before they were drafted we should draft and I was ignored, 1st was Chris Johnson now starring for the Titans, 2nd Jarod Mayo last years defensive rookie of the year, I say now if Eric Berry is drafted by a team in our division he will be a pain for our passing game for over a decade!
September 21st, 2009 at 9:15 am
He got a W. I remember Dante Culpepper entering the exact same scenario and throwing a pick before he even crossed midfield.
I think Russell will prove the doubters wrong. If he doesn’t, he’ll be replaced. We’re stuck with him for now.
September 21st, 2009 at 9:19 am
What the heck?
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/tech/2009/09/18/sot.panama.mystery.creature.cnn
What the heck is right! I could be wrong, but that may just be the body of Charged Up!. Haven’t seen him around here much.
September 21st, 2009 at 9:20 am
how good is our defense?
the Chiefs hung 24 points on the Ravens in Week 1 without Matt Cassel, Bobby Wade & Brandon Flowers.
that game was tied 24-24 with 5 minutes to play in the 4th quarter. Ravens pulled it out.
Ravens D had 3 sacks and no INT’s.
Raiders D had 2 sacks & 2 INT’s. only gave up 10 points with Cassel & Wade in the lineup. in thier HOME OPENER. it was Cassel’s debut in a CHIEFS uniform
also look at how Rivers, Sproles & Jackson did against the Ravens D compared to the Raiders D …
INTERESTING!
September 21st, 2009 at 9:24 am
Russell has 6 Ws in a Raider uniform.
How many did
Collins
Brooks
Walter
McCown
Culpepper
have?
Collins may be the only other QB with 6 or more and that was with Randy Moss, Doug Gabriel, Jerry Porter, and Ron Curry.
September 21st, 2009 at 9:24 am
That last drive was clutch. Russell overcame 3 penalties and drove for the win with just over two min. remaining. He was on the money with his passes. The team is playing with heart. This is part of the learning process. The team will stick with him for the season. forget Garcia. He should have retired last year.
September 21st, 2009 at 9:24 am
Huff has been saving our butts and deserves credit.
I hope other players learn from his example.
I think they will.
Russell can throw, he just needs to settle down.
And he will.
They have to really get up and prepared for denver.
September 21st, 2009 at 9:25 am
centurionWR87 Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 9:28 am
B. Russell saying he never thought he’d be benched – He should feel the pressure of needing to perform – just a little bit of HEALTHY pressure that anyone in any job should have.
Weaselbit:
You hit it right on the head.
Look at the fire it lit under McNabb’s tail when they benched him one game.
Been playing well ever since.
Wake up call.
When are they going to get rid of the posting comments too quickly abortion?
September 21st, 2009 at 9:25 am
It is 12 pm Eastern time…I think it is time to drown my Raider sorrows in alcohol.
September 21st, 2009 at 9:26 am
Chargers choked again against Ravens nuff said LOL ! The refs couldn’t do a repeat !
September 21st, 2009 at 9:28 am
I think if Russell doesn’t play well in the first half against the Broncs then Gradkowski should be put in….
A. Because he’s a safe thrower and more accurate than JR (who can’t even throw the long balls properly atm)
B. Russell saying he never thought he’d be benched – He should feel the pressure of needing to perform – just a little bit of HEALTHY pressure that anyone in any job should have.
That’s what I think… The comment about their offensive yardage total is so true – we gave them a rediculous amount of time to get those yards…with our lack of offense
September 21st, 2009 at 9:30 am
I agree with post 405 – our D is something to be proud of, I love the coverage!! Except for Routt getting beaten – but you will be beaten eventually if you have a million plays to defend!
September 21st, 2009 at 9:33 am
You can’t bench Russell…he’ll just sulk and explode to 350 lbs. Remember when he was “learning” that first season? Half the time he lounged on the bench eating cheetos. It won’t motivate him, he’ll just get worse.
And it is not like we have a better option…Garbagekowski? Really? Come on!
Give Russell the rest of this year, if he doesn’t push his completion % closer to 60% and show major progress (we can’t afford baby steps anymore with him) then address the position in the offseason.
Wait…I just looked at the potential 2010 FA QBs….Ramsey? Batch? Kitna? Clemens? Croyle? boller? Campbell? Troy Smith? lol…not gooooood.
September 21st, 2009 at 9:33 am
Good point RR I think our defense is much much better we held both of them guys under 100 yrds rushing, I think we need to mix it up and bring the blitz, and execute it better becausw when we did blitz it was so poor cassel had time to look down field and the scramble with his legs
September 21st, 2009 at 9:35 am
I never have like it when The Raiders play on Monday night football. The short week is a disadvantage. One that can be overcome, but still a disadvantage. Even when The Raiders used to be great on Monday night, their record on the following Sunday was rather mediocre. I hope with the full week to prepare they come out more ready to play next week.
One thing I like about playing Thanksgiving (The Raiders and Cowboys both have to play on three days rest, so no advantage there) is that we then have ten days to get ready to play Pittsburg. I don’t know if it will be enough, but it helps.
September 21st, 2009 at 9:36 am
Routt isn’t so bad?
Routt makes Fabian Washington look like Dieon Sanders.
September 21st, 2009 at 9:36 am
Routt on D. Bowe is a mismatch.
simply put, the Chiefs took what we gave them…
somebody get Chris McAlister on the phone!
Routt + Bowie = points for the other team
September 21st, 2009 at 9:36 am
Also (i’m posting way too much!
) – I think we have a good chance against Denver because they only won their first game because of the ‘fluke’ catch and their second game was against a lousy cleveland team – our D is gonna munch up Orton too, Cassell’s pocket presence and evasion was pretty good and he was sacked twice 
– I just really hope something happens with our Offense!
September 21st, 2009 at 9:41 am
Our D is good for now but with a lackluster offense it has to be better! If we had applied more pressure to Rivers we would have had a big lead and not lost again on a 4th quarter comeback. I HATE THE CHARGERS!!!!!! I HATE THE DONKS!!!!! BLITZ BLITZ BLITZ BLITZ
September 21st, 2009 at 9:41 am
Nah I think we’ve got the right DBs in there atm RaiderRockstar – I think we have a team camaraderie developing and we don’t need another vet in the mix – plus we’re probably gonna have to pay him a fair bit… Routt isn’t so bad either, he’s made good plays in the past
September 21st, 2009 at 9:42 am
Routt needs tomake some good plays lately.
September 21st, 2009 at 9:42 am
JaMarcus is a fat loser and he has body odor.
September 21st, 2009 at 9:42 am
That would have tough for any DB to defend.
That ball was thrown to an area where the receiver or no one would get it and Bowe made a hell of a grab.
Not sold on Routt, but McCallister would be a mistake as a replacement.
September 21st, 2009 at 9:47 am
I think our defense is much much better we held both of them guys under 100 yrds rushing
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Tomlinson/Sproles: 22 carries for 78 yards, TD (3.5 ypc)
Johnson/Savage/Battle: 32 carries for 123 yards (3.8 ypc)
run defense has improved by leaps & bounds. the biggest stat to me is that we only gave up 1 rushing TD in 2 divisional games!
you know Dungver is gonna come in and try to pound the rock too. we have to be ready for them.
September 21st, 2009 at 9:48 am
Orton needs to be running for his life the whole game.
Need to pund the rock.
Need WRs to come through big and make the big guy look good.
September 21st, 2009 at 9:49 am
pound the rock*
September 21st, 2009 at 9:49 am
Russell deserves much of the blame for the offensive woes, if nothing else because he is the leader and face of the offense. But after watching these last two games, there are other problems that stick out to me.
A. The running game is simply not getting it done with McFadden at the helm. We ended last season on a high by pounding the rock with Bush, that needs to start again. We need to stick with our personality as a running team. Great running teams can get it done, even with 8 in the box. So far this season, we have given up on the run, early and often, just to watch Russell flutter his way to one 3-and-out after another, which burns zero time off the clock.
B. The line has held up OK, but all those penalties put Russell in horrible situations way too often.
C. The biggest problem of all, two rookie WR’s starting. Bust in the making DHB, 4th rounder Murphy, former practice squad player Watkins and over-the-hill Walker is all we have had in these first two games. When Schilens gets back to 100%, things will improve.
D. Play-calling has been bad, really bad. If Al is serious about winning some games, he needs to force Cable to hire an offensive coordinator. Why the f, are we passing so much with a QB that is hitting only 35% of his passes for the season (most of those passes coming in heroic last-ditch two minute drills). What happened to the 2-TE sets, and Oren O’Neal, and multiple-back sets.
September 21st, 2009 at 9:56 am
One thing i have noticed is Jamhock is good at hitting receivers over the middle. Other than that he’s terrible in hitting the receiver on the flat or down the side lines.
September 21st, 2009 at 9:57 am
“I am so tired of Routt. At this moment, I’d take Bowie over Routt any day”
Or Chris McAllister…yes, at corner, not safety.
September 21st, 2009 at 9:59 am
Rout needs to give Nnamdi water before and during the game
September 21st, 2009 at 10:00 am
Interesting how good Huff becomes when he does not have to cover people for nine seconds.
It all starts with the Dline.
Ellis, Seymour, Bryant, Shaugnessy were huge upgrades over last year.
Second, mix coverages and blitz OCCASIONALLY.
A steady diet of blitzing is fatal. The Eagles do it about as well as anyone and they got torched by Brees.
Good QB’s will do that if the blitz is overdone.
Pressure with four, keep plays in front of you and tackle exceptionally well.
Obviously the best defense is a good offense and that will come with experience.
September 21st, 2009 at 10:03 am
Dungver’s D-Line is trash. it’s thier LB corps and secondary that make plays.
we need to give them a healthy dose of McFadden & Bush.
on the defensive side, Stokley & Gaffney have just as many receptions as Marshall & Royal (12). hope Orton isn’t smart enough to pick on Routt. Rivers & Cassel were …
September 21st, 2009 at 10:05 am
428. Brilliant assessment.
Heres a Khalif article. Hope he’s not the new Kwame though he played like him last year…
Might be better at guard?
http://www.raidernationstation.com/exclusives
September 21st, 2009 at 10:06 am
Cut Stanford Routt. John Bowie has proven to be a better player than him.
September 21st, 2009 at 10:12 am
Explain to me how that Jacoby Jones TD was ANY DIFFERENT than the Louis Murphy non-TD?
Apart from the fact that one guy wears silver and black?
September 21st, 2009 at 10:13 am
BBB
It would seem the Raiders want to make the vertical threat a reality so that it will allow them to run.
If nobody thinks we can pass, they’ll stuff the run all day. We’ll have trouble making PA throws, screen passes and anything intermediate.
These are not bad play calls at all, despite what some will say. This is poor execution.
If Cable were to cater to the strengths and avoid the weaknesses of this young offense, it would look a lot prettier.
He’s not. He saying, “you should be able to play this way. NFL RBs, WRs, and QBs make these plays.”
I really can’t blame him for forcing the maturation process, although if it were up to me, I’d do it differently.
Give it to the coaches, they got these boys ready yo play.
September 21st, 2009 at 10:13 am
Both kc and san diego stacked the line, put 8 in the box and said to our QB, beat us…..
Most if not all teams will have a problem running the ball…
Its ALL up to JRUSS…
Until he can prove that he can beat a team with his are, everyone we play will do exactly that stack the box…
September 21st, 2009 at 10:14 am
LAtotheBay,
Agreed, watching the offense this season, makes me actually miss the offense of last season, which is sad. I commend Cable for pushing this offense to make plays vertically, but that may come at the expense of winning at this point.
I disagree that the play-calling has been good. Two straight games of that kind of awful execution from Russell should have made Cable realize that he needed to alter the game plan. You have to use your team’s strengths in a game-plan, allowing your QB to throw that many errant passes is negligent on Cable’s part, he needs to find some other plays that capitalize on our weapons.
September 21st, 2009 at 10:15 am
Reality check, ladies.
A. You’re STUCK with McFumble. Al’s guy. Cable has the same latitude of benching players as he does of placing Al’s fonzie doo in the opposite comb over.
B. Yep, you’re also STUCK with Russell. He basically copped to it. Stated loud and clear that he’s NOT WORRIED AT ALL ABOUT GETTING YANKED, REGARDLESS OF HOW CRAPPY HE PLAYS..see..he’s “Al’s guy” as well, and he knows that he’s been given a free pass on actually giving a damn because…well…Al told him.
C. Play calling..very odd that Cable is still calling plays. Why is he calling plays? When has he ever called a good game? So WHY hasn’t Al taken that from him? Of course, that leads to the obvious “how much of the game plan is Al’s?”? Oh, I know…”You’re just a hater”. Nope. I’m your voice of reason that has the luxury of calling it like it is, your impression be damned. Now, it’s well known that Al has, many many times, called down from above, telling the head coach what he wants run, from offensive plays to defensive schemes. That said, hard to imagine he all of a sudden gives Cable full authority to do something he’s obviously not very good at.
In other words, you’re in a world of hurt that two Advil won’t help.
September 21st, 2009 at 10:15 am
Even before Gallery was injured, I don’t think our o-line was opening holes like it did the past couple of seasons under Cable.
Remember how the o-line improved when Cable took back the o-line duties at the end of last season?
Cable is a great o-line coach…
McFadden and Bush don’t have the openings they had in the past. Carlisle is one year older, Morris is a scrub, Henderson is a better pass protector than run blocker, Mop Handle is a pretty good run blocker, but only when he isn’t getting penalized or tripping McFadden.
There just seems to be something off…hopefully Barnes can improve things…and when is Wade due back?
September 21st, 2009 at 10:15 am
432. Lets hope so. Everyo0ne laments the D’s role for most of our six year skid, but the offense has been offensive.
Need to put up points!!!
I agree about play calling being off, but rotations have been too.
I like some of the deep balls on 1st and 10. Made sense against their young corners, but bashing DMC into the line over and over and over…stupid.
Why isn’t Walker being used?
He can’t be worse than watkins can he? CAN HE?!!! lol!
September 21st, 2009 at 10:17 am
Thec
Exactly.
Anyone hoping to with the Super Bowl?
Sorry.
Anyone hoping to have a greatly improved team vs. the last 6 miserable years and bring a young offensive unit along to mature and win some games?
Hey, you’re in the right spot.
September 21st, 2009 at 10:19 am
Anyone hoping to win the Super Bowl?*
September 21st, 2009 at 10:22 am
Win, but a loss…
http://www.raidernationstation.com/2009_regular_season
September 21st, 2009 at 10:22 am
I see Richie can get to the letter C in the alphabet.
September 21st, 2009 at 10:23 am
And you continue to chase parked cars, and wonder why you have a headache.
“Vertical threat a reality’?
Oh..you mean..actually complete passes?
wow. novel idea. Except everyone knows that it’s not an option. If anything they’re daring the Raiders to pass. Was two easy picks that the Chiefs dropped that was the difference in the game.
You are right that NFL players should be able to make these plays. You are WRONG in saying can’t blame him. Hell yeah, you can blame him. You’re supposed to call a game plan that gives your team THE BEST CHANCE TO WIN..you don’t sacrifice a win to coddle some fatass who refuses to work out.
So, comes to execution. Raiders keep dumbing down plays for Jafatass, and still it’s not working. So, considering he doesn’t have the balls to bench the “Blob with the Bling” he should have the smarts to call a game that doesn’t continue to expose Russell’s weaknesses…
which is basically playing qb, lol.
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LA to TheBay Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 10:13 am
BBB
It would seem the Raiders want to make the vertical threat a reality so that it will allow them to run.
If nobody thinks we can pass, they’ll stuff the run all day. We’ll have trouble making PA throws, screen passes and anything intermediate.
These are not bad play calls at all, despite what some will say. This is poor execution.
If Cable were to cater to the strengths and avoid the weaknesses of this young offense, it would look a lot prettier.
He’s not. He saying, “you should be able to play this way. NFL RBs, WRs, and QBs make these plays.”
I really can’t blame him for forcing the maturation process, although if it were up to me, I’d do it differently.
Give it to the coaches, they got these boys ready yo play.
September 21st, 2009 at 10:24 am
How exciting was our offense against Tampa in last years finale?
We were down ten with eleven minutes left and we pounded it.
That is how we are being built at least for the short term.
We ought to see more two TE offense since that is a strength of this team.
Pittsburgh has won alot of titles playing that way.
No we are not a playoff team. Yes we need to focus on BOTH lines in next years draft.
Warren will be gone or needs to sub at a greatly reduced salary. Green and Carlisle should not be starting.
As LA said, we are a vastly improved team over what we have had the last six years and you need to accept a very inconsistent offense as our young guys develop.
September 21st, 2009 at 10:25 am
The o-line seems to be better at pass protection this year than run blocking! Maybe the run blocking is just suffering from the Russell affect…no one respects him so they stack up against the run…I don’t know.
Whatever it is, it has to stop.
And throwing bombs all day isn’t working either Cable…another wobbler down the sideline and 10 yards out of bounds or ten feet above the WR and I might have a stroke…I know Cable is sucking Al’s ball sack by running those plays, but Russell is not capable of completing those passes.
September 21st, 2009 at 10:27 am
Lynn from Snot Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 10:22 am
I see Richie can get to the letter C in the alphabet.
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SnottyLynn…good to see consistency.
You consistently say nothing.
Still waiting for you to, just ONCE, actually say something that warrants a response..just once?
No, no, don’t go celebrate that I’m replying here..this is more of a mercy pat on the head, yes we see you’re alive, no we don’t expect much more from you, post..
Just wonder if you ever take a stand on anything?
No?
Didn’t think so.
September 21st, 2009 at 10:27 am
I have a question for you guys . We are all Raider fans I presume, can anyone (YOU TOO JERRY) tell me why Javon Walker isn’t playing??? Im talking about significant time at WR not to field punts or come in to make a block. I mean we have 2 rookies out there and its evident they are having their struggles. The only guy with a proven resume, and claims to be healthy might I add with EXPERIENCE…how can he be on the side line most of the game? I mean cmon man give this guy a chance to prove he’s the player he says he is… use his experience to our advantage!!!!! Cable u ass your making a huge mistake man play this guy im telling you it will pay off!!
September 21st, 2009 at 10:28 am
The verticle offense + Russell = The Once in a Blue Moon Offense.
September 21st, 2009 at 10:28 am
Richochet Says:
September 20th, 2009 at 11:45 pm
KC lost two turnovers. That’s THE ONLY REASON THE RAIDERS WON.
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Could this guy get any Stupider?? Turnovers are the NUMERO UNO reason teams win or don’t win in the NFL. And BTW rack-ette, I had a great date yet I had to take 5 minutes to refute you, just for entertainment sake.
You on the other hand:
You’re right, OakWimp, I didn’t have a date. My wife told me to cancel it. Instead I played with my kids..
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Actually, you’re wife wisely cancelled and decided to go out with her “friends” right?? Of course she didn’t come back that nite but, hey you trust her. As for “your” kids, I can see them on the play ground right now:
“Hey Kid, what does your dad do?”
“My Dad?? He’s an internet troll.”
Man, no wonder your wife cancelled the date and went out with some other dude. He can at least get it up. LMAO.
September 21st, 2009 at 10:29 am
I disagree, Russell can make those passes, just hasn’t this season so far.
If you don’t agree with me, watch the last few games last season.
Ricky, long time – no talk.
Actually, Cable had outstanding play calling in the Houston game last year. I believe he said they ran his first set of scripted plays to near perfection.
Russell has had a lousy start and will get better.
Quit looking at this team with tunnel vision, you fool. Russell and McFadden would have gone in the top 10 to anyone the years they were drafted.
I’d rather be stuck with McFadden than stuck without him.
And if you had McFadden and Bush, you wouldn’t play them? Doesn’t matter if their “Al Davis’ guy” or not.
If we win games, will you finally dissapear and start posting on a Lions blog or are you just too jaded by the Raider organization?
Somebody really hurt your feeling in the Silver and Black. Too bad for you. I would feel miserable too posting on a Bronco blog all day and getting repeatedly schooled by everyone.
September 21st, 2009 at 10:29 am
We use the prevent, we lose. We use a tighter defense at the end, we win. But go ahead, keep putting everything on Russell’s shoulder, idiots. Keep blaming Russell for a loss yesterday that NEVER EVEN HAPPENED!
September 21st, 2009 at 10:29 am
An Alvis Whitted Scholarship for the Gifted update: Micheal Huff is off the scholarship.Jamarcus and McFadden are processing their applications. Please give Bush the bulk of the carries!
September 21st, 2009 at 10:29 am
a blue moon occurs once every 14 years =)
September 21st, 2009 at 10:30 am
Did we cut Wade? He has to be better than Satele!
September 21st, 2009 at 10:32 am
Dakota, we lose our way? We didn’t lose. What are you talking about?
September 21st, 2009 at 10:34 am
4eva, that is about how often it works.
When was the last time our offense was decent? Wasn’t this fast WR down the sideline throw a bomb and hope for the best BS we are now seeing….it was Gannon and the short to intermediate passing game.
But hey, why stick with something that works for most NFL teams? We are mavericks right!
We lose OUR way!
September 21st, 2009 at 10:34 am
KC confused Russell by shutting down his favorite target, Miller. Russell is not going to be a hall of famer. But the fate of this team does not rest on his shoulders. We don’t use that prevent defense last week and we have one of the top 3 defenses in the league, in every category.
September 21st, 2009 at 10:35 am
yeah j-russ played like chit but he got it done when he had too! I just hope he does the extra work in order to improve his accuracy. If we would of lost this game it would of been on cable and his play calling! I know they stacked the line but why give up on the rush so soon? Also the run plays that were called fed right into the d they where playing!! It would of been easier if they had run sweeps and pitches! they did that w/bush but not w/mcfadden!!
September 21st, 2009 at 10:35 am
How can you get the run game going when you’re not committed to it?
They had a 3rd and two after some nice Bush runs. Did they pound it? No. They went PA deep.
The reason the run didn’t look so good was the commitment to pass the ball. Everyone knew KC was going to make Russell beat them.
Damn, what a great idea, Russell couldn’t possibly overcome a late deficit on the road, march the team down the field and win could he ??
Oh, wait….
September 21st, 2009 at 10:38 am
LOL
September 21st, 2009 at 10:39 am
Dakota Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 10:15 am
McFadden and Bush don’t have the openings they had in the past.
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Teams are stacking the box. At one point I counted TEN GUYS in the box during the San Diego game. You can’t run with ten guys up. KC did the same thing. Until Jamarcus can CONSISTENTLY complete passes all over the field, we are not going to have a lot of offensive success.
September 21st, 2009 at 10:40 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 10:34 am
KC confused Russell by shutting down his favorite target, Miller. Russell is not going to be a hall of famer. But the fate of this team does not rest on his shoulders. We don’t use that prevent defense last week and we have one of the top 3 defenses in the league, in every category.
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WOW…If KC confused Russell, what’s going to happen when we play a good team…too much koolaid, or not enough
September 21st, 2009 at 10:40 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 10:34 am
KC confused Russell by shutting down his favorite target, Miller. Russell is not going to be a hall of famer.
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You can’t say that. Steve Young at the same point in his career was very similar to Russell in the fact that NFL people really questioned his accuracy and decision making and thought he was just a running back who thought he was a QB. People think the same thing about Vick.
The issue with Russell right now from my perspective is he does not have trust in his offensive team mates. He certainly does not trust his offensive linemen, and his trust in his wide receivers is EXTREMELY suspect.
September 21st, 2009 at 10:46 am
Run game is having issues becuase we stopped cut blocking, and running outside zone plays. Once we start to do that again, then everything will be back in order.
JRuss’s problems might have to do with his abs. Now before we get a thousand posts about JRuss needing to lose weight. Let me say that i don’t care about his weight. I do care about how developed his abs are under his spare tire. Brad Roll needs to get him going and the out patterns and deep throws will improve with a stronger core. Either that or he needs to check his release points. Watching how accurate he is in the middle of the field, i think that this is something that can be corrected.
September 21st, 2009 at 10:47 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 10:32 am
Dakota, we lose our way? We didn’t lose. What are you talking about?
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I’m not talking about one game. Other than the Gannon years, this team has tried the “vertical” passing game year in and year out and it simply does not produce wins. Well, it did in the 60s, 70 and early 80s, but not recently.
We keep banging our heads against the great wall of tradition around here.
September 21st, 2009 at 10:47 am
Dirty 451,
with multiple surgeries and age, the coaches must be seeing that Javon has yet to regain his speed and moves; obviously Javon himself is gonna say he’s ready but if he really was hell they’d put him in there, esp. with Chaz out. What you said, says it all…there are 2 struggling rookies out there, and they still aren’t playing him…and it’s not like he’s in the doghouse for anything, that I know of…
September 21st, 2009 at 10:49 am
Dakota. We are mavericks. we do things differently, for better or worse.
You mean to tell me you would throw Al Davis under the bus – a senile old ‘maverick’ respected for stuff he did 30 years ago and completely out of touch with the modern game…
and still vote for John McCain??
September 21st, 2009 at 10:51 am
LA to TheBay Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 10:49 am
Dakota. We are mavericks. we do things differently, for better or worse.
You mean to tell me you would throw Al Davis under the bus – a senile old ‘maverick’ respected for stuff he did 30 years ago and completely out of touch with the modern game…
and still vote for John McCain??
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of course…just as I would still rather have Al Davis as our owner over Bill Bidwell…
September 21st, 2009 at 10:51 am
OakGlen
As for Steve Young – Ryan Leaf was more similar to Russell at this stage of his career as well as his college carrer to Russell so what does that say???
September 21st, 2009 at 10:52 am
An interesting take on the game from Monte Pool, who is usually a Raider basher.
http://www.insidebayarea.com/top-stories/ci_13383338
September 21st, 2009 at 10:53 am
This is Russell’s last year as a starting quarterback in the NFL.
Bush should have been our starting running back since the beginning of last season. Cable is an idiot for not starting Bush.
September 21st, 2009 at 10:53 am
Javon needs another trip to Vegas where he at least is a target more than he is on the field.
September 21st, 2009 at 10:54 am
JR needs to hang a tire in his backyard and throw 200 balls/night through the thing…
September 21st, 2009 at 10:54 am
#473 Agreed on both counts…
As for Oakglenn and his comment about trust – I wonder how JLH trust JR after that leading pass that led him into a devasting blow or how running backs trust JR after he throws it high and behind them when there is a linebacker or DE bearing down on them. Bottom line is JR had 2-3 good games out of 16 last year and this is now his third year. There are no more excuses!
He had all preseason and off season to work on his passing game and this is the best he can do with 8 in the box off of play action and Miller being double teamed. He is like 3-25 or something like that to WRs that as Tim Brown would say like 7-11 (always open). His leash must be getting shorter by the minute.
September 21st, 2009 at 10:55 am
Kirk Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 10:53 am
This is Russell’s last year as a starting quarterback in the NFL.
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Next year is an uncapped year…maybe Al can get out of some of those big contracts without killing the cap next year…
September 21st, 2009 at 10:56 am
Better to be quick to stand and shout, there goes our offence three and out.
September 21st, 2009 at 10:56 am
The #473 shifted to #475.. I was agreeing with Kirk…
September 21st, 2009 at 10:56 am
Actually Wind, Russell had a much more successful won lost career in college than Leaf, and as bad a Jam has played, Leafs 1 for 15 game against KC with THREE fumbles, Jam has never come close to that level of suckage.
As for Steve Young:
Young signed with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in 1985 after being the first player selected in the year’s supplemental draft. However, the Buccaneers posted 2–14 win-loss records in each of Young’s two seasons with them, and Young’s record as starter was 3–16. In his 19 games, he threw for only 11 touchdowns with 21 interceptions while completing fewer than 55% of his passes.
Eerily similar to Jamarcus only without the plethora of interceptions that Young tossed.
September 21st, 2009 at 10:58 am
I really don’t believe cable when he says that Walker isn’t fast enough… he has no credibility with me at this point, because he’s the same guy who trashed Mario Henderson and stuck with Kwame when it was apparent he should have pulled him by week 3. The same guy that pulled out Huff too early and stuck with a struggling Eugene. So I see it as him being stubborn again this time with Walker….mMARK MY WORDS, ONCE WALKER GETS SIGNIFICANT PT HE WILL BE A DIFFERENCE MAKER FOR THIS TEAM. Cable just don’t have the damn vision cause he stuck on stupid, lobbing long balls to rookies every other play! Pisses me off give the man a damn chance to redeem his career
September 21st, 2009 at 11:00 am
Dakota, you don’t know what you’re talking about. We are running the ball in a way that I haven’t seen since Gruden was here. We took a few deep shots yesterday only because they were giving them to us. We are not using a vertical offense. And, we didn’t use the prevent defense yesterday. We used mostly that cover 1, even at the end. And it worked. Basically, it was as if Al Davis didn’t exist yesterday. We did nothing indicative of his management…except Just Win.
September 21st, 2009 at 11:02 am
Mistabrown Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 11:04 am
I heard it ALL now! Russell doesn’t “TRUST” his mates so he sails the ball over their head or clunks it off the hands of Db’s.
Beautiful take Oakglen! What a genius perspective…lmao
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Of course you don’t get it. No one expects you to get it. But then, you never played the game or have ever been around the game and In fact you don’t get global warming even tho the polar icecaps are melting all around your feet.
Hey Mistabrown how’s Brady Quinn doing?? He’s your guy.
September 21st, 2009 at 11:02 am
AND WE HAVE A WINNER OF ‘DUMB POST OF THE DAY’.
You’ve just reached “sorryass desperately reaching for anything” level.
You basically alluded to the fact that all of those in that list ALSO SUCKS, RIGHT ALONGSIDE RUSSELL.
Way to go, clown.
Russell has back to back games in the 40’s qb rating.
Has the SECOND WORST OUTING FOR A QB, IN A WIN..(other was Jake Delhomne..against? yep..the Raiders.)has everyone calling for his sorryass to step up, to perform, to actually give a damn..and here YOU DEFEND HIM?
How to you walk without a spine?
A freak of nature…
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LA to TheBay Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 9:24 am
Russell has 6 Ws in a Raider uniform.
How many did
Collins
Brooks
Walter
McCown
Culpepper
have?
Collins may be the only other QB with 6 or more and that was with Randy Moss, Doug Gabriel, Jerry Porter, and Ron Curry.
September 21st, 2009 at 11:03 am
DirtyBath,
Did you see that preseason game that Javon played in? He looked like he was running in sand. The guy definitely doesnt have the speed to get seperation anymore.
September 21st, 2009 at 11:04 am
MaineRaida Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 10:54 am
JR needs to hang a tire in his backyard and throw 200 balls/night through the thing…
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200?
At the rate he’s going now, completion wise, that will take him to November…..
2011.
September 21st, 2009 at 11:04 am
I heard it ALL now! Russell doesn’t “TRUST” his mates so he sails the ball over their head or clunks it off the hands of Db’s.
Beautiful take Oakglen! What a genius perspective…lmao
# Oakglenn Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 10:40 am
The issue with Russell right now from my perspective is he does not have trust in his offensive team mates. He certainly does not trust his offensive linemen, and his trust in his wide receivers is EXTREMELY suspect.
September 21st, 2009 at 11:05 am
Great busts like Tim Couch and Brady Quinn mista brown fan?? Or Winslow Jr and Braylon Edwards mistabrown fan??
September 21st, 2009 at 11:05 am
I see John Madden sitting with George W. Bush one more time, and I’m changing my screen name. I can tell you that much, too. I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt yesterday in that Jerry Jones just sprung Bush on him. Madden probably thought that when Jones told him Bush would be there, he was talking about the cheerleaders. (womp womp womp woooooooooooooooomp…)
September 21st, 2009 at 11:07 am
Monte Pool is not a Raider basher. He tell it like it is. When we’re good, he says so. When we’re not, he says so. We’re playing good football right now. Reporters shedding light on it is not hypocrisy. It’s called journalism. You report what you see, period.
September 21st, 2009 at 11:08 am
Our new rallying cry? “At least Russell isn’t as bad as Ryan Leaf!”
ouch
Russell, don’t let us down fat boy, get your schit together. 35% comp percentage just isn’t going to cut it.
Oh man….just got heartburn….thanks Russell.
September 21st, 2009 at 11:09 am
Rich.
Dumbest post, but what did you do to disprove me?
All you did was attempt to insult and it didn’t work.
Am I defending him? Sure. That’s the franchise.
Do I have a spine? Of course, you idiot. As a matter of fact, other than dumb (which you already called me), in defending the defenseless, wouldn’t you say that took some backbone?
I didn’t say they weren’t any good. I said anyone would have taken them.
Then maybe you’d bother some fans from other teams. But, no no matter a Raiders win or loss or tie, who they have or don’t, you’re here getting schooled.
As bad as Russell is, Alex Smith was a #1 and he threw 1 TD to 11 INTs in his first campaign as a starter. That has to be some sort of record, I’m sure.
Richochet = jaded.
September 21st, 2009 at 11:09 am
Monte Poole? Raider basher? WHAT??
Guy is the ONLY bay area reporter who is a known Raider lover..and has always been.
Even when he writes an article criticizing the Raiders, he still always leaves a possibility that if all of the stars align properly, and everyone’s wan is copasetic, the Raiders could still turn it around.
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raidertay Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 10:52 am
An interesting take on the game from Monte Pool, who is usually a Raider basher.
September 21st, 2009 at 11:10 am
Hackett, Tolner & Cable worked all off season with Russell and this is the by product of all that film study and practice time!
The guy cannot even execute a screen pass. The playbook is only 80% open. No where to go but UP for JaMeatball!
Lets compare him to other BUSTS to show how he is on target for a great career…lol
September 21st, 2009 at 11:12 am
We are putting a lot on Chaz gettin healthy and resurrecting our passing games. Thats a lot of hope on a guy that has NEVER been able to stay healthy. Even in College. Thats the reason he was a 7th rd pick.
The guy broke his foot running a route with no contact. Id be suprised if he finished the season.
September 21st, 2009 at 11:14 am
“Russell was 7-for-24 for 109 yards. No interceptions, but Chiefs cornerback Maurice Leggett dropped one that he would have taken back to the Raiders’ house, and three other Russell passes should have been INTs, including the first play of the game-winning drive.”
Cable said Russell was “out of whack” much of the day, and Russell said, “The ball was coming out (of my hand) pretty funny the first few drives.”
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Oh, the ball was coming out of his hand funny….hopefully the Raiders have a sit down with next week’s game ball and make sure it knows not to come out of his hand funny.
Problem solved!
September 21st, 2009 at 11:16 am
Dirty,
I hope you are right about Javon and he shows em all…but don’t forget that Cable isn’t the only coach monitoring the guy’s progress every day…it seems somebody would stand up for the guy if he was 100% or close. And c’mon that ain’t Cable calling for long bombs to rooks every other play…that’s his bossman Al thru and thru!
September 21st, 2009 at 11:16 am
I don’t care what receivers you have line up. You need a quaterback to be able to them nad not throw 10 yrs passed them on have it blocked at the line of scrimmage, but forgetting how short Russell is you can understand having it blocked…lol
September 21st, 2009 at 11:17 am
I told you, OakDork, you abuse the right to be a dumbass.
Honestly, how friggin’ stupid is the comment that Russell doesn’t trust his receivers?
See, dumbass, if a qb doesn’t trust a receiver? HE DOESN’T THROW TO THEM..instead he throws nice balls to those he thinks has a good chance of MAKING HIM LOOK GOOD.
No one on the planet would state that stupid crap, except you. Geez..”duh..RUSSELL DECIDES I DON’T THINK HE’LL CATCH IT, SO I’LL JUST THROW IT INTO THE GROUND…DUH”
And following it by stating “you don’t play the game”? WHAT?? You know of ANYONE, ANYWHERE, EVER STATING THAT?
You fool..
I swear..and this is not smack..you very likely, in real life, away from this board, are a total idiot.
You actually make others, like LA to the Sty looked less than retarded.
And that’s not easy.
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Oakglenn Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 11:02 am
Mistabrown Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 11:04 am
I heard it ALL now! Russell doesn’t “TRUST” his mates so he sails the ball over their head or clunks it off the hands of Db’s.
Beautiful take Oakglen! What a genius perspective…lmao
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Of course you don’t get it. No one expects you to get it. But then, you never played the game or have ever been around the game and In fact you don’t get global warming even tho the polar icecaps are melting all around your feet.
Hey Mistabrown how’s Brady Quinn doing?? He’s your guy.
September 21st, 2009 at 11:17 am
What?? What did I do to disprove you? Disprove what? I stated it clearly that your dumbass stated “Russell sucks..but so do these guys”..as IF THAT’S OK..as if YOU’RE OK WITH THINGS..as if “things could be worse”.
And yes, you’re spineless. Stating “Am I defending him? Yes, because he’s the franchise” IS EXACTLY WHY YOU’RE SPINELESS. He should be held accountable, and you go out of your way to back him or prop him OR MAKE SORRY EXCUSES FOR HIM.
That takes NO BACKBONE..NO SPINE.
See, lots of Raider fans call it like they see it.
YOU? “I back him because he’s the franchise” Makes you a lemming..means you just ACCEPT WHATEVER COMES TO YOU because “oh..I’m supposed to”.
And the dumbest part was ‘I have a spine because I defend the defenseless”?
Really? Now Russell is ‘defenseless’?? LMFAO..the guy is getting guaranteed 32 million and he stated TO YOU AND EVERY RAIDER FAN I’M NOT SWEATING NOTHING..I’M NOT WORRIED..MY JOB IS SET..I CAN SCREW UP ALL I WANT, AND NOTHING IS GOING TO HAPPEN”
The defenseless one here..is obviously…you.
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LA to TheBay Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 11:09 am
Rich.
Dumbest post, but what did you do to disprove me?
All you did was attempt to insult and it didn’t work.
Am I defending him? Sure. That’s the franchise.
Do I have a spine? Of course, you idiot. As a matter of fact, other than dumb (which you already called me), in defending the defenseless, wouldn’t you say that took some backbone?
I didn’t say they weren’t any good. I said anyone would have taken them.
Then maybe you’d bother some fans from other teams. But, no no matter a Raiders win or loss or tie, who they have or don’t, you’re here getting schooled.
As bad as Russell is, Alex Smith was a #1 and he threw 1 TD to 11 INTs in his first campaign as a starter. That has to be some sort of record, I’m sure.
Richochet = jaded.
September 21st, 2009 at 11:17 am
MaddenRaider,
What is wrong with you? A couple of close games and now you are claiming the Raiders have changed their ways? Because they ran the ball 20 times? Don’t panic and drop your angry stance just yet…trust me, we are a 4-12 to 6-10 team at best.
September 21st, 2009 at 11:18 am
check this out. And please don’t respond with “oh i wish Drew Brees was on my team”. That’s not the point of this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVoqA-LKGb4
September 21st, 2009 at 11:19 am
This is the best our defense has looked since ‘98, when they ended the season 4th in the league in yards allowed. Russell is not going to be great, but as long as he comes through when he has to, he’ll be fine. We’ve got defenses respecting our running game now, which is going to open up opportunities down field, and such opportunities compliment Russell’s strengths, obviously. It’s like everyone always said…we have to run the football often and effectively. That play to McFadden for the winning score was just brilliant. We had their defense thinking pass at that point. By the time they knew it was a run, it was too late. It matched McFadden against their corner. Just brilliant. It’s as good of a play ever called in Oakland, by Gruden or anyone.
September 21st, 2009 at 11:19 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 11:19 am
That play to McFadden for the winning score was just brilliant. We had their defense thinking pass at that point. By the time they knew it was a run, it was too late. It matched McFadden against their corner. Just brilliant. It’s as good of a play ever called in Oakland, by Gruden or anyone.
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McFadden must have drawn it up on the sideline for Cable once again.
September 21st, 2009 at 11:19 am
You’re starting to sound scary rack-o-sheeit. Like you’re coming unglued. Of course, if my wife hasn’t come home for three days while out with “friends” I would get a little edgy too.
September 21st, 2009 at 11:19 am
Guess what smart fella Jerry Mac is NOT a Raider fan either.
Don’t believe me ask him next live chat?
September 21st, 2009 at 11:24 am
Jerry Mac is not a Raider fan, but he would rather The Raiders be good as well as interesting because it makes his job easier and more interesting. While Jerry is not a fan, I don’t think he is a hater either, unlike some of the other mediates.
September 21st, 2009 at 11:29 am
Total meltdown by Richochet. Messy.
I never said he or anyone else sucks. Never did. matter of fact, I said if you had Bush and McFadden, you wouldn’t play them (As in they’re good, you’re retarded if you don’t), and that Russell and McFadden aren’t just products of a ‘bad Raider drafts,’ as they would have gone to any team in the top 10. Same with Huff and Gallery who are playing well now (Gallery will resume his high level of play upon return). Same with Aso.
I do hold Russell accountable. Do you read the posts? He’s the franchise, meaning we’re not dumping him any time soon, so I give my assessment. You’re just jaded.
I hold him accountable. It’s completely his fault that he lead the team down the field and they scored a TD to win the game.
MAYBE YOU’D PAY MORE ATTENTION IF I WROTE IN CAPS LIKE AN ANGRY, JADED CHILD.
September 21st, 2009 at 11:30 am
# Oakglenn Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 10:40 am
The issue with Russell right now from my perspective is he does not have trust in his offensive team mates. He certainly does not trust his offensive linemen, and his trust in his wide receivers is EXTREMELY suspect.
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Who gives a crap about his TRUST level. He’s paid to play as a professional. He’s worse than an amatuer. The O-line should just let everybody through so they could knock him out of the game so we can get another professional QB in there who does care and will perform. The blame lies right at the feet of JR. Nobody else has made him look bad. He accomplished that all by himself. He is a terrible example of an NFL QB. He has no accuracy, no touch, bad footwork, is slow minded, can’t multitask, the list goes on.
He looked like a bumbling fool out there yesterday. He sacked himself on one play, missed numerous open receivers and almost single-handedly lost the game for us. He needs to sit on the bench for a year or two and work hard (practice) to get back into the lineup. Right now he’s just a large anchor around this team’s neck. He’s part of the problem and is not part of the solution.
September 21st, 2009 at 11:31 am
This win was like a Megan Fox fart.
September 21st, 2009 at 11:31 am
CALLING NIKE PLEASE REPORT TO ALEMEDA WE HAVE A RUNNING THAT KEEPS TRIPPING ON AIR.
September 21st, 2009 at 11:32 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 11:19 am
…Just brilliant. It’s as good of a play ever called in Oakland, by Gruden or anyone.
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MR, I can’t wait for the day when you are in here reminiscing about the good old Cable days lol! Oh man, that is some good stuff!
September 21st, 2009 at 11:32 am
I wonder what does Al Davis thinks of JR after this game? Will he panic or support JR for the next two yrs of his contract.
September 21st, 2009 at 11:33 am
JB, very true. Tired of everyone making excuses for Russell. He’s terrible right now and needs to start playing football and stop all this crap
September 21st, 2009 at 11:33 am
UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 11:31 am
CALLING NIKE PLEASE REPORT TO ALEMEDA WE HAVE A RUNNING THAT KEEPS TRIPPING ON AIR.
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Mop Handle’s fat leg is air? Look at that play again.
September 21st, 2009 at 11:34 am
MR
Ted Tollner is “passing game coordinator” and Cable does the run plays. Hackett is not involved in playcalling, only QB coaching.
September 21st, 2009 at 11:34 am
I’m also beginning to think that DMac is playing out of position. As a running back, he goes down far too easily. His strength is getting him the ball in the open then he might be able to do something with it. Personally, I think we ought to try him at WR, the slot position in particular. He’s got good hands and would probably do a lot more for us there – as soon as we can get a QB that can hit an open receiver. Let’s leave the running to Bush, Fargas & Rankin. DMac on a reverse would probably work well.
The Raiders have a good history of playing player in different positions than they started with. Does the name Todd Christensen ring a bell?
September 21st, 2009 at 11:35 am
Mop Handle had two tackles yesterday…he even sacked Russell!
If he ain’t false staring or holding, he has to set us back some other way.
September 21st, 2009 at 11:35 am
We don’t haven an offensive coordinator listed. I’m guessing Paul Hackett? Am I too far off? Al had better intend on making him an OC in title and paying him.
September 21st, 2009 at 11:38 am
MR,
Cable calls the plays, not Hackett or Tollner.
September 21st, 2009 at 11:39 am
Win is like a Megan Fox fart??? Im waiting for the punchline………….
September 21st, 2009 at 11:42 am
Barnes might be a choice to fill in for Gallery, but I kind of like the big red head to.
September 21st, 2009 at 11:44 am
Dakota,
“Between the Gallery injury, Satele and Morris on the o-line and Russell unable to complete simple pass plays, I have a feeling we are not about to run the ball any better than we have the first couple of weeks.
Our O is done until Russell rounds into shape.”
I agree, a better team will not allow us to hang around until the last drive. Russell needs to put together scoring drives from the opening kickoff to the clock reads 0.00.
If the pass game doesn’t progress in a hurry, we are going to have a long year against a tough schedule.
It will be an improvement over years past, but Cable should have seen enough to call plays that cater to the strengths of his young group and avoid they’re weaknesses.
The problem is, like we saw in KC, if the opponent doesn’t respect the pass to the WR, Zach will have no room.
They need to find creative, high percentage ways to get the ball to Murphy.
I also think yesterday’s game is a wake up call. Or hope anyway.
Chaz needs to hurry up and get back and stay healthy.
September 21st, 2009 at 11:44 am
Between the Gallery injury, Satele and Morris on the o-line and Russell unable to complete simple pass plays, I have a feeling we are not about to run the ball any better than we have the first couple of weeks.
Our O is done until Russell rounds into shape.
September 21st, 2009 at 11:45 am
Isn’t is great how your post comes up ahead of one you are responding to?
September 21st, 2009 at 11:46 am
I don’t understand y JR doesn’t scramble? U can’t pass ran for first down
September 21st, 2009 at 11:46 am
Our O is done until Russell rounds into shape.
That’s funny
JR’s 
shape is already round 
September 21st, 2009 at 11:48 am
Is Barnes a possible backfill for Gallery? I would think he would more easily adapt to that position because the hand stance is the same as he’s used to. I was hoping we could use him to replace Green but right now we need to strengthen the left side of the line first.
September 21st, 2009 at 11:51 am
# DirtyBathWater Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 11:39 am
Win is like a Megan Fox fart??? Im waiting for the punchline………….
September 21st, 2009 at 11:51 am
Dakota Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 11:44 am
Between the Gallery injury, Satele and Morris on the o-line and Russell unable to complete simple pass plays, I have a feeling we are not about to run the ball any better than we have the first couple of weeks.
Our O is done until Russell rounds into shape.
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Schilens and Barnes should help.
September 21st, 2009 at 11:52 am
Well, that article puts the loss squarely on Haley’s shoulders.
Which is not entirely accurate. The play with time expiring at the half was either poorly called or poorly executed, maybe both.
But the Raiders’ D continued to hold, hold, hold.
How ’bout some credit to the Raiders’ D?
The only reason KC had the stats they did was because of our weak offense.
September 21st, 2009 at 11:53 am
Russel’s pass protection has not been bad at all. It may have been less than perfect, but still not bad. He has had time to throw in most instances.
September 21st, 2009 at 11:54 am
By Jason Whitlock:
“Let’s hope Todd Haley spent Sunday night standing in front of a mirror, screaming at himself.
If he holds himself to the same standards as his players, he might be on the waiver wire this morning.
His coaching display Sunday afternoon against the Oakland Raiders was an embarrassment, as bad as anything I’ve seen in the NFL.
Losing at home to these Raiders on a day when JaMarcus Russell unseated Ryan Leaf as the most ill-prepared quarterback in league history required a special level of coaching incompetence — a combination of arrogance, flawed logic and lack of self-control rarely seen on network TV.
If 22 players off the street can win two NFL games, there were 70,000 people inside Arrowhead Stadium who could have done a better job than Scott Ego-li’s handpicked coach.
In a 13-10 loss, the Haley-led Chiefs squandered a chip-shot field-goal attempt in the final seconds of the first half with a no-timeouts-left, 1-yard pass in the flat to Dantrell Savage. Time expired before the refs could re-spot the ball for the next play.
In a 13-10 loss, the Haley-led Chiefs dropped back to pass on third and 1 in the final 43 seconds of the game and in possession of all three of their timeouts. The Raiders sacked Matt Cassel, setting up the game-deciding fourth-and-4 play the Chiefs would not convert.
In a 13-10 loss, the Haley-led Chiefs were flagged for nine penalties, including a critical late-hit infraction on Oakland’s game-winning TD drive. They turned the ball over twice and failed to down a perfect punt inside the 5 despite six Chiefs circling the ball.
The Chiefs melted down Sunday. They were a reflection of their head coach, who ranted and raved after every error — except his own.
….The truth is, Russell’s performance illustrates just how bad Haley’s Chiefs are. Russell and the Raiders picked up the victory completing seven of 24 passes for 109 yards, racking up 11 first downs and 166 total yards
The Raiders played dead, and won.
How?
Many of you don’t understand why the tone of my columns about the Chiefs has been so negative after I initially campaigned for Scott Pioli’s hiring and identified Haley as Pioli’s likely head coach.
The amount of arrogance from Pioli directed toward the media and the unwarranted, know-it-all arrogance Haley directs toward his players make King Carl Peterson look as humble and down-to-earth as Lamar Hunt.”
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LMFAO!
September 21st, 2009 at 11:54 am
You’re so stupid you set yourself up, OakDork.
You STUPIDLY comment on Saturday about me not having a date..when it’s obvious YOU’RE ONLINE POSTING, MAKING IT CLEAR YOU DON’T HAVE ONE..and then when I point out I’m playing with my kids, and why is your sorryass home, you now reply you HAD A BEAUTIFUL DATE BUT STOPPED FOR 5 MINUTES TO POST TO ME??
Dude..you’re a friggin’ idiot.
Oh..idiot?
Didn’t you run the “Russell had a 167 rating?”? YOU KNOW..RIGHT WHEN I SCHOOLED YOUR SORRYASS THAT NOT ONLY IS THAT IMPOSSIBLE, BECAUSE THE RATINGS ONLY TO TO 158.3..but that it was a 149 rating.
I mean, you ever get embarrassed by saying stupid crap, and then having it shoved down your throat?
Like the “Russell misses his receivers on purpose”? YOU’VE ONLY BEEN CALLED A MORON BY EVERYONE HERE..and you do nothing about it..you don’t back up your words..you’ll just reply with something ignorant.
You’re a joke here and you’re too stupid to realize it.
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Oakglenn Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 10:28 am
Richochet Says:
September 20th, 2009 at 11:45 pm
KC lost two turnovers. That’s THE ONLY REASON THE RAIDERS WON.
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Could this guy get any Stupider?? Turnovers are the NUMERO UNO reason teams win or don’t win in the NFL. And BTW rack-ette, I had a great date yet I had to take 5 minutes to refute you, just for entertainment sake.
You on the other hand:
You’re right, OakWimp, I didn’t have a date. My wife told me to cancel it. Instead I played with my kids..
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Actually, you’re wife wisely cancelled and decided to go out with her “friends” right?? Of course she didn’t come back that nite but, hey you trust her. As for “your” kids, I can see them on the play ground right now:
“Hey Kid, what does your dad do?”
“My Dad?? He’s an internet troll.”
Man, no wonder your wife cancelled the date and went out with some other dude. He can at least get it up. LMAO.
September 21st, 2009 at 11:55 am
How bout some credit to the Raiders’ offense, that was held in check and sloppy all day, and came through in the clutch to win.
They were challenging JR all day and he beat them.
How ’bout some credit to Cable for the playcall to get the TD?
September 21st, 2009 at 11:55 am
At least KC fans are pissed too!
September 21st, 2009 at 11:57 am
As HORRIBLE as Russell played he won the game in the end. The final drive, he was 4-for-7 for 67 yards.
“All of a sudden,” Cable said, “JaMarcus looks like he’s in total control, he’s on target, he’s on time.”
September 21st, 2009 at 11:57 am
Raiders4eve Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 12:01 pm
I believe DMAC can play QB, we should adopt wildcat packages, scramble and do many reverse plays. I think our offense was very predictable, who agreees?
I do.
Mix it up. Be unpredictable.
Bush was a QB in high school, has more experience than even McFadden. Only reason he played HB is because of Brian Brohm.
September 21st, 2009 at 11:58 am
JB Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 11:30 am
# Oakglenn Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 10:40 am
The issue with Russell right now from my perspective is he does not have trust in his offensive team mates. He certainly does not trust his offensive linemen, and his trust in his wide receivers is EXTREMELY suspect.
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Who gives a crap about his TRUST level.
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HE DOES, that’s the point. If you don’t think you will have time to set, go thru your reads and deliver the rock, you are not going to be very accurate or very good. And in Russells defense, that offensive line has NOT BEEN the rock of Gibraltar up there. You contrast that to Sanchez who is playing with a couple of pro bowlers and an over all number four, his charger is snowy white AFTER the game. He can just stand back there and deliver. The bottom line is Jamarcus CANNOT regress from last year. He was NOT good enough LAST YEAR, to show ANY regression. The first two games, he has REGRESSED. That’s a big problem.
September 21st, 2009 at 12:01 pm
I believe DMAC can play QB, we should adopt wildcat packages, scramble and do many reverse plays. I think our offense was very predictable, who agreees?
September 21st, 2009 at 12:03 pm
Dakota, you have no idea what you’re talking about, period. You are honestly in here trying to convince everyone that we lost yesterday. You keep blaming Russell for a loss that never happened. We’re all used to the team losing and a bit shocked by this win. It’s just that most of us have gotten over it and are starting to enjoy the smell of it. Take your time. We’ll be here for you.
September 21st, 2009 at 12:03 pm
Pressure with 4 is what has had us losing the past few years , most zones are picked a part when a QB gets pressured by only 4 lineman and he has his OL and FB blocking for him. When Seymore starts getting cut blocked Sunday and hopefully not hurt we’ll need some LB and DB pressure too !
September 21st, 2009 at 12:03 pm
Dakota, the only Raider fan who’s pissed is you.
September 21st, 2009 at 12:04 pm
I guess Al Davis read in the newspaper that the Chiefs were going to stack the box, and he gave instructions for Cable to open the game forcing the ball to DHB.
September 21st, 2009 at 12:08 pm
Oakglenn
They say NFL QB’s have to have short memories. His protection has not been all that bad. His skills have totally evaporated and he looked worse than when he first started. He has definitely regressed and that is not acceptable. Cable needs to have the stones to pull JR and sit his ass on the bench for the remainder of the game if he’s not performing at an acceptable level.
My point about his trustt level is that he’s a paid professional. Therefore, excuses not allowed. Play with what you’ve got or go sit down. I believe Gradkowski or Frye could have gone in there yesterday and won by at least 21 points with the receivers we now have available. JR just has a schitty attitude and that needs to change. Cable should put him on a very short leash and not be afraid to yank it if he goes astray. Either of the other two QB’s would have done a better job than we saw yesterday. Send JR a BIG MESSAGE : You are NOT the man when you play like that. You ARE REPLACEABLE.
September 21st, 2009 at 12:09 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 12:03 pm
Dakota, you have no idea what you’re talking about, period. You are honestly in here trying to convince everyone that we lost yesterday. You keep blaming Russell for a loss that never happened. We’re all used to the team losing and a bit shocked by this win. It’s just that most of us have gotten over it and are starting to enjoy the smell of it. Take your time. We’ll be here for you.
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This is precious! Give dakota a break MR…his garage looks like we got blown out!
September 21st, 2009 at 12:10 pm
Until Russell can prove that he can pass the ball, opposing teams will have 8-9 man in the box. Hey Cable, how about a few pitches to DMAC. All I saw was plays to the middle.
September 21st, 2009 at 12:12 pm
Im becoming a huge Shaugnessy fan. I love the way that guy plays.
September 21st, 2009 at 12:13 pm
JB,
I think what Oakglenn means about trust is that Russ doesnt tend to throw a lot of picks. He can be overly careful with his throws. He needs to start putting the ball in a spot where he has the confidence that his WR will beat his man to the ball.
Granted, this doesnt apply to ALL of his throws. Some of them were not even close. But some of his throws looks like he is trying to put the ball in a spot where only his man will be able to get to it. In actuality no one is able to get to it.
September 21st, 2009 at 12:15 pm
As much as I like DMAC, I think Bush is running more effectively now. Bush Should start the game and wear out opposing D’s, then bring in DMAC to finish them off.
September 21st, 2009 at 12:16 pm
A little perspective:
1. We have started this season better than any in recent memory.
2. A very young team with a newly formed coaching staff is expected to have shaky games but improve over the course of the season.
3. If the Raiders can get some character-building wins now, they could be dangerous when the team gels and improves execution in the second half of the season.
4. We are actually playing decent run defense!
5. Southwick is still unclaimed.
September 21st, 2009 at 12:16 pm
JB I completely agree with that post. I know everyone now wants to see Gradkowski in there. But, in the one short set of downs Gradkowski played against SD he got a short completion, and then went completely backward. It was Jamarcus who came in on a 3rd and 15 because Gradkowski went backward. As bad as Jam played yesterday, at least he didn’t go backward in that SD game.
Last year, my point with Russell is he has got to continue to improve thru out the year and in his career, until he is an excellent NFL Q. For the most part last year, he did that. His last few starts he played very very well for the most part. He has to take that experience and consider that his floor level of play, and get better from that. Well, he fell right thru the floor his first two weeks. THAT, is really really bad and completely unacceptable.
September 21st, 2009 at 12:16 pm
JB
Russell is NOT replaceable by anyone on this roster, by a long shot.
September 21st, 2009 at 12:17 pm
I love watching Haley and Casell screaming at each other during the breaks. If that was happening in Oakland it would be a HUGE deal.
September 21st, 2009 at 12:17 pm
I think we should all be in the game against Da Donkeys, I have feeling Orton will joke if we yell at him, Denver dint look good playing outside their home n we can stop their running. If JR chokes we will be callin for him to get benched.
September 21st, 2009 at 12:18 pm
I believe DMAC can play QB, we should adopt wildcat packages, scramble and do many reverse plays. I think our offense was very predictable, who agreees?
I do.
Mix it up. Be unpredictable.
Bush was a QB in high school, has more experience than even McFadden. Only reason he played HB is because of Brian Brohm.
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Whooooaaa Nelly!!!!!
Have you seen the Wildcat have ANY success this year? That boat has sailed!
Gradkowski or Frye would be much better options that McFadden or Bush at QB.
September 21st, 2009 at 12:19 pm
PLEASE fix this blog. The typing too fast message is a real pain and the posts out of order are very frustrating. It’s really hard to follow a line of thought.
This is fixable. Please do so.
September 21st, 2009 at 12:19 pm
Are Huggy Bear’s days over in Oakland? Was he inactive yesterday?
September 21st, 2009 at 12:20 pm
wild cat sucks!
September 21st, 2009 at 12:21 pm
Jhill
“Gradkowski or Frye would be much better options that McFadden or Bush at QB.”
Under center. Not what I was saying.
I don’t think the wildcat or creative playcalling is dead. It’s week 2.
September 21st, 2009 at 12:22 pm
I think this offense has enough talent that Gradkowski or Frye can surely run it. Good running game and a good defense only needs a decent QB to get the job done. Now you might see a change in play calling where the first read is not 15 yds downfield. But that is how it should be anyway!
September 21st, 2009 at 12:22 pm
Jhill,
Ya, Cable really needs to sit down with Al Davis and say, look, Al, I know he’s you’re guy. We’ve done everything we can. The rest is up to him. If you want to win, we’ve got to start making high percentage plays and stop trying to throw a bomb on every other pass.
It will go like this:
A) Cable and Davis realize this team needs to win and currently, is capable of doing so. They start calling plays that maximize the players’ strengths and minimize weaknesses.
B) Davis tells Cable to hell with your sissy mary west coast nonsense, get vertical and bring this kid along.
September 21st, 2009 at 12:23 pm
LA to TheBay,
We don’t have anyone better than Russell right now> Maybe Gradkowski but I doubt it. I live by Cleveland and Frye SUCKS!!!!
September 21st, 2009 at 12:24 pm
Russell is the QB on this squad.
However, the Raiders need to admit their mistake and begin to look for a future option.
Raiders need to look for a QB in the first round of next year’s draft.
A REAL QB PLEASE!
September 21st, 2009 at 12:24 pm
FILM STUDY WORKS WONDERS!!!!!!!
Thanks Nnamdi!
September 21st, 2009 at 12:26 pm
Jhill Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 12:22 pm
I think this offense has enough talent that Gradkowski or Frye can surely run it.
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Sure, sure, lol.
Hey where are all the Huff haters today?
September 21st, 2009 at 12:26 pm
That’s what I’m saying.
The play calling hasn’t been bad at all depending on what context you put it in.
Good play calling for a capable offense.
Poor play calling for forcing a poor offense to complete plays a capable offense could and should.
When Russell wants to play, he’s money. The throws he completes are really quite nice. That throw to DHB was solid. Beats the CB to the inside, puts the ball underneath the safety. Tight coverage, tighter throw.
But when he misses….
September 21st, 2009 at 12:27 pm
Gradkowski or Frye??? Are you guys serious. This isnt preseason and they are playing playing against 3rd string competition. Id rather take my bumps and bruises with Russ.
September 21st, 2009 at 12:27 pm
I hear you LA.
Just not a fan of the Wildcat. I think the playcalling had been adequate. Guys are open, JRuss is just not connecting. Simple as that. Plenty of screens and dump downs called yesterday.
That first pass of the game?
I tell ya, I was litterally on my feet until he missed that first pass. I mean, took the excitement of the game right away, ON THE FIRST FRICKIN PLAY! Spending the whole game HOPING for BASIC completions to WIDE OPEN GUYS?
We aren’t talking about intellect or reading the defense, the guy is making the right reads. He just can’t connect.
September 21st, 2009 at 12:29 pm
I actually feel good now wearing my Huff Jersey.
September 21st, 2009 at 12:30 pm
stand by our QB we need to give him a real chance, this is his year to prove himself yes it was very ugly yesterday but in the end he did what he needed to do to get us a W, that was a 4th quarter comeback regardless of how ugly the win was, a w is a w, now let’s all go out there and cheer for them on sunday, NO disrespectful boo’s he is way better than both are back ups, he just needs to go with the flow……
September 21st, 2009 at 12:30 pm
HYPOCRITE ALERT HYPOCRITE ALERT HYPOCRITE ALERT
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
Kell, he has no clue what he’s talking about. He doesn’t know anything about football. He just comes in here and mouths off. I’m not discussing anything with him until the moron figures out the difference between a cover 1 and a prevent.
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
Dakota, you don’t know what you’re talking about. We are running the ball in a way that I haven’t seen since Gruden was here. We took a few deep shots yesterday only because they were giving them to us. We are not using a vertical offense. And, we didn’t use the prevent defense yesterday. We used mostly that cover 1, even at the end. And it worked. Basically, it was as if Al Davis didn’t exist yesterday. We did nothing indicative of his management…except Just Win.
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First of all, MR — You say Kell doesn’t know what he’s talking about? Hahaha. Considering you’re both at the same intellectual level (an oxymoron if ever there was one), that’s like hitting your thumb with a hammer.
The difference in a Cover 1 and a Prevent? The difference between the Defense we used @ the end of last week’s game and the end of this game? C’mon, MR…you say you know…but, you’re just feeding your usual BS to anyone who might bite.
The difference is WE WON the game with this Defense. The scheme? The same. The players? Largely the same. The alignment? The ONE obvious difference was the Linebackers didn’t back off 15-20-yards deep.
Last week was no Prevent Defense, no matter what MR calls it. It was a Defense that failed to do its part to win the game…mainly because the LB’s gave away the entire middle of the field by backing-off too far. That was not schemed-for, called, or planned. It just happened to be played that way by the LB’s. The very same LB’s who didn’t make the same mistake yesterday.
Same Defense, same players, different outcome. Life in the NFL.
Tell us, MR — Just what IS the difference between a Cover-1 and a Prevent? What makes ANY alignment a Prevent Defense? Stop calling KK names, and try and define YOUR discription of what classifies as a Prevent.
And…”we” (funny how when the team wins, MR says “we,” but when they lose he hops off the wagon faster than anyone else!) certainly did try to go vertical yesterday — but, to go after it over and over would have cost us the game.
The same Tom Cable who has been vilified by MR (and other trolls) in here for months…is calling good plays, turning this team around, and establishing himself as a coach the players admire and want to play for.
It is a GREAT time to be a Raiders fan. Isn’t it?
Unless you’re a hypocrite?!
September 21st, 2009 at 12:30 pm
# KoolKell Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 12:16 pm
JB
Russell is NOT replaceable by anyone on this roster, by a long shot.
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That’s an opinion that is not supported by the facts. Either of our QB back-ups would have been a better choice than JR yesterday. That’s just my opinion. I can’t really recall any game JR has played where he’s looked worse. He couldn’t even complete a successful toss to the official. He was sadly almost comical yesterday. Actually, pathetic is a better choice of words. I can’t believe that you actually think no one could have done better in that game. Our back-up QB’s are better than you give them credit for. Yesterday, JR was simply the worse QB on the field. Please don’t defend that type of performance because it should not be acceptable to anyone, especially to JR himself. The time for excuses is over. JR needs to play well or sit.
September 21st, 2009 at 12:31 pm
Would love to see Al Davis go after Colt McCoy or Zac Robinson in 2010 draft.
September 21st, 2009 at 12:32 pm
Raiders4eve Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 12:33 pm
Ok, is Jamarcus:
A) Bust QB
B) Below Average
C) Average
D) Above Average
E) None of the above ( if u pick this option, explain)
personally I choose option B
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A bust QB with above average potential, average talent, and below average IQ and accuracy.
I believe the same was said of Terry Bradshaw, who made it, and others like Leaf, who didn’t.
I mean, he’s not really a bust until he’s out of the league and unemployed. It is way too early to call that. If he makes a huge leap next week, everyone is on his jock until he stinks it up again. He needs to be consistently good.
Plunkett was a bust until he won. Same measurement everyone will apply to Russell.
September 21st, 2009 at 12:32 pm
Hopefully Huff has learned from Namndi what it takes to great. Namndi learned from Rod Woodson.
September 21st, 2009 at 12:32 pm
Relax Kell …
I was the biggest Huff supporter while most of you wanted him cut. Huff NEVER played as bad as Russell is play NOW.
I was a Trevor Scott promter before he stunk it up. Called for him to be replaced by Shagnessy after the Dallas game.
Satele supporter, called for Chris Morris after the 49r game.
Not really a Gradkowski or Frye fan, but I’m surely not a fan of missing wide open guys repeatedly. If Russell can’t get it done, get the next guy in there!
September 21st, 2009 at 12:33 pm
Division game for 1st place this week!
That’s what I’m talking about!
We can beat this team with good defense and a good running attack. I think we can force Orton into some turnovers. Defense scores it first TD of the season!
September 21st, 2009 at 12:33 pm
Ok, is Jamarcus:
A) Bust QB
B) Below Average
C) Average
D) Above Average
E) None of the above ( if u pick this option, explain)
personally I choose option B
September 21st, 2009 at 12:35 pm
i would have to choose option b at this point also, but you can see signs that he can be good, i would like him to get to avergae pretty quickly and then maybe above average.
September 21st, 2009 at 12:37 pm
KK brings up a good point. Raider fan hates the change of coaches every year, yet wants to rip the Q after one year as a starter and put in the next guy. Then the next guy. Then the next guy. Yeah, right.
September 21st, 2009 at 12:38 pm
Russell needs to finish this year.
Like it or not, the team has hitched itself to him.
However, at the end of the year, everyone will be forced to admit the mistake and move on.
Russell is not an NFL QB.
I was all for him when he was drafted, but I concede that he has poor mechanics that lead to accuracy problems. I don’t know how this guy was 67% at LSU.
September 21st, 2009 at 12:38 pm
Am I blind? JR reminded me of Alex Smith the bust, when u can’t pass a five yard win the game because of penalties, lack a QB instinct, I call it a bum. Where is all the promise n talent ppl were talking abt, I see a QB who lacks motivation to be a an all pro.
September 21st, 2009 at 12:40 pm
Raiders4eve I would say C. If you go back to guys like Steve Young, Elway, McNabb, Eli, you would see that after 18-20 starts they would be comparable players to Jam. I was watching some of Carson Palmer yesterday, and he missed soooooo many WIDE open guys, yet most of you would take him. And then as soon as he missed his first wide open guy you would boooooooooooooo mercilessly and say bring in Gradkowski.
September 21st, 2009 at 12:42 pm
Jim Mora, NFL Network
Hi Mike. I’m not a big JaMarcus Russell fan. I think he’s a talented athlete, but I’m not sure that he is a good enough passer to become a great QB in the NFL. When a guy is picked No. 1 overall, you tend to expect great things from him.
He has a very strong arm, and I’m sure he’s a top-notch competitor. But I think he lacks the timing, touch and accruacy to become a top-notch QB.
September 21st, 2009 at 12:43 pm
Jhil
Russell has won 3 out of his last 4. He should be 4-4.
You want to talk turkey? Would any GM who’s put together a 25-75 record still be employed?
September 21st, 2009 at 12:45 pm
HayezDaze, take something for your ADD. I didn’t say Kell didn’t know what he was talking about. I was talking to Kell about someone else. Read the stupid comment. I was addressing Kell, and talking about someone else.
Example.
Kell,
(as in dear Kell,)
As far as the rest of your comment goes? Shorten it up. I just don’t have time to read your diatribes. Give me the short version, and I’ll respond. Tip: Get right to your point.
September 21st, 2009 at 12:46 pm
Forget Davis going after a top tier, rd. 1 QB in 2010. Too soon.
However, don’t be surprised if he picks up a serviceable guy in a later round as an insurance policy. Great QB (or even good ones) have to be drafted on the first day.
As a matter of fact, it’s probably a better idea.
September 21st, 2009 at 12:46 pm
Oak,
You can’t be serious. I’d love to have a guy at QB for the next 10 years. But Russell played worse yesterday that Josh McClown EVER did.
You can’t even begin to explain a performance like that. If he was on any other team, you would be all over him. And the sad part is we all know he’s better than that. Like an earlier poster said, some of the throws he makes are incredible. As good as he was on that last drive, how could he be so bad the first 58 minutes?
It’s like some of these guys say, he must really just have his head up his ass. No other explanation, and I don’t have time for it. Big Baby Huey mutha fugga. Git Yo shyt together! Have some pride in yourself!
September 21st, 2009 at 12:49 pm
Special teams was much improved. Jano was money on both field goals and 4touch backs. punt coverage was very good as well.
September 21st, 2009 at 12:50 pm
I don’t know how this guy was 67% at LSU.
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Right, 75!
The stage just might be too big. Expectations too high. You know he can make the throws, he’s just flat out CHOKING!
BUT !!!!
We can win inspite of him.
September 21st, 2009 at 12:52 pm
OK, Hayes, I read a little bit of your diatribe, and stopped reading when you said that the defense we used at the end of the SD game wasn’t a prevent. Sure. Dropping all linebackers and all of the secondary into deep coverage isn’t a prevent. Whatever, football maven.
September 21st, 2009 at 12:52 pm
Oakglenn, u say C but is that based on this year stats or last years, if last years then yes he is an average, but this years so far his stats are close to below average, I would say bust if he didn’t have the last two drives which he put points on the board.
September 21st, 2009 at 12:52 pm
I am sooooo curious as to how much time he actually spends throwing passes to his wide outs at full speed. His timing is sooo bad. I think it was in last weeks game against SD the analyst said, accuracy isnt just getting the ball to the receiver its getting it to where he can catch it better than the defender and a lot of the time make sure there is something to do after the catch. JR does not of that unless he is throwing to the TE.
September 21st, 2009 at 12:54 pm
On another note,
Not real excited about Cable moving Morris from C to LG. It’s like he’s turning the Gallery injury into 2 injuries. We will now have a backup LG AND and backup C staring against Denver. Why not just go with the backup Paul McQuistan? Morris is playing REALLY well at C, and Satele was flat out AWFUL!
September 21st, 2009 at 12:54 pm
Hayez, answer this, so I know rather or not you’re certifiably insane. Do you honestly believe the defense we used on KC’s final drive was the same we used against SD on their final drive? Someone get a mental institution on the phone, I want them to be ready in case he says yes.
September 21st, 2009 at 12:55 pm
I’m a JaMarcus Russell supporter and fan…but, he’s NOT doing his job up to expectations for most of the game.
This Raiders team is talented enough to go 8-8 with average QB play…and JaMarcus isn’t even giving us that for too many plays. There are only so many times a team can come back from the deep holes it digs for itself — and when the team’s leader keeps digging them.
It’s time for JaMarcus to stop staying cool while going down in flames…and for him to stay cool while pouring on the heat.
This year is Bye Week or bust for JaMarcus, and this team. A few out-of-the-Playoffs wins at the end of the year will mean nothing…and finding another QB with the potential to be #1 will become a high priority all over again.
If and WHEN the light comes on for JaMarcus, it will shine bright for a long time. But, we need to see a trend that way soon. If he loses his confidence, seasons are lost with it.
September 21st, 2009 at 12:57 pm
everyone seems to have overlooked an important point-we won the game.enjoy it for a while.also,like our gm,our QB isn’t going anywhere.all we can do as fans is hope he gets better,and gets better real fast because we all saw him stink up the place the last 2 games.
btw,does it seem that Dakota is actually unhappy we won due to his dislike of Cable and his decisions to anyone else but me?
Rockstar-kudos on your loyalty to Huff-it seems you were correct.
September 21st, 2009 at 12:57 pm
We won period…
“This is the type of win that can give you that snowball effect, man,” he said. “I’ve been in games where you hold people to 150 yards – that’s cute. Stats are pretty, but when you don’t win, you’re sick. Keeping them out of the end zone as many times as we did, that’s championship football.”
This guy would know more bout the game than you whining fans. We lose you complain, we win you shoot it down what do you want next a draw?
September 21st, 2009 at 12:57 pm
I really see JR as a Favre style quarterback. Someone with a big arm but not always the most accurate. If you look to past quarterbacks like this, it usually takes them a couple (2-3) years to really get solidified in the nfl.
That being said, I am really not worried about JR. He will be good in time, just not as fast as raider fans want. (overnight)
September 21st, 2009 at 12:58 pm
Tampering chargers against the Jets, Niners should ignore this idiot Crabtree, let him lose all that money I wanna see who will draft top 20 next yr.
September 21st, 2009 at 12:59 pm
Pass the dressing and don’t forget the gravy Kell …
I like Al the owner, but not the GM. I’ve said many of times that we should have a guy in there. I was for AP over Russell, Dorsey over McFadden (until the medical stuff came up), and Maulauga over DHB.
But it is what it is man! Al just makes bad 1st rd picks. He’s pretty good in the other rounds.
September 21st, 2009 at 12:59 pm
MR — I’m just wondering what “RATHER OR NOT” means.
You really have an AA in communications? You must have earned it online, along with your pre-school football coaching certificate.
I’m wondering “rather or not” I should even continue having these convo’s with you…oh, yeah…got to have ‘em! You’re too easy to play, and too easy to make trip-up.
Oh yeah…Al Davis is The Man…”rather or not” MR likes it.
Hahaha
September 21st, 2009 at 1:00 pm
I just don’t understand why JR doesn’t man up and says I had a very bad game I m trying to win, where is his credibility n leadership role? If u have a bad game u man up n say that u are aware u need to step ur game up n happy u got lucky in this game. This man seems he don’t care abt how he plays. Did u guys see him in comcast interview post show?
September 21st, 2009 at 1:02 pm
I know what happened…Jmac got a “care” package from Jhill =)
September 21st, 2009 at 1:04 pm
Anyone see Romo`s stats weak did Bulger or Cambell get in the endzone this weak?
September 21st, 2009 at 1:06 pm
That must REALLY REALLY be some good chit mon
September 21st, 2009 at 1:08 pm
lefty12 Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 12:57 pm
everyone seems to have overlooked an important point-we won the game.enjoy it for a while.also,like our gm,our QB isn’t going anywhere.all we can do as fans is hope he gets better,and gets better real fast because we all saw him stink up the place the last 2 games.
btw,does it seem that Dakota is actually unhappy we won due to his dislike of Cable and his decisions to anyone else but me?
Rockstar-kudos on your loyalty to Huff-it seems you were correct.
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Sorry Lefty, I am not going to sit here and say gee, that was a great victory, Russell is a great come from behind QB, we are great blah blah blah when that is not the way I feel.
Anyone that is pleased with that game has a screw loose.
As to Cable…Al will take care of him soon enough.
September 21st, 2009 at 1:13 pm
Hayes, we only won yesterday because Al Davis and his philosophies were shut out of the entire process. He is not “the man”. He’s just an NFL owner who’s time has passed him by, and needs to continue letting the coaching staff run this team. He needs to make Paul Hackett the OC in name and pay him. I can see that being Al’s first step to screwing this up, right there. Just brushing off Hackett and letting him leave.
September 21st, 2009 at 1:14 pm
JR is some how a topic in every raider, football blog I chat on. He’s in his own world every post game interview he thinks everything is ok and that he’s the man.He plays like a high schooler even walter plays better its a shame a #1 draft pick my ass
September 21st, 2009 at 1:14 pm
Raiders4eve,
Obviously, the Jets will take Crabtree next year. Read the first part of your comment. Crabtree’s doing the right thing, IMO. The 49ers are trying to take advantage of Davis’s misuse of his first pick by using the gaffe as leverage to sign Crabtree on the cheap. I’ll bet you the Niners wind up signing him, though. For what he’s asking.
September 21st, 2009 at 1:14 pm
He would’ve missed the game 4eva …
Wasn’t me!
September 21st, 2009 at 1:14 pm
JRuss needs Rich Gannon to be his QB coach, and Chucky to be his coach.
I guarantee you there would be no lack of focus issues then!
September 21st, 2009 at 1:16 pm
JaMarcus put together a game-winning TD drive in the final two minutes of the game. What do you expect him to say in the post-game press conference? I think all this talk of JR “choking” is ridiculous. In the first two games of the season, JR has engineered 4th quarter TD drives to put the team in a position to win. He has the head to be an NFL QB, he is just struggling with his mechanics and footwork and the inconsistent targets he has to throw to. We are gonna ride or die with JR for this season, there is no doubt. I think it is only a matter of time before he will get his feet under him and have a breakout game, just a matter of time.
September 21st, 2009 at 1:18 pm
It’s time for Raider Dog
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHa71AFBGoE&eurl=http://www.sportingnews.com/blog/TroyIlium/150557
September 21st, 2009 at 1:19 pm
I say stay with JRuss he will get better yea looked pretty bad we beat KC at there home opener(loud) how many times have we done that in the last 10 years dont even think Gannon has done that I think Hackett working with him will work eventually
September 21st, 2009 at 1:19 pm
Lefty,
I know I often sound pessimistic, even after wins, so I am going to try and think back to the last win we had where I thought we might actually be turning things around….
….hmmmm….wasn’t the last two games of last season…
…wasn’t the KC or Denver games, although it is always great to beat them….
Certainly wasn’t the Jets game…
I am thinking it was the Miami game in 2007…and that turned out to be nothing too.
September 21st, 2009 at 1:21 pm
Fellas,
There’s no way to suger-coat how bad yesterday’s performance was, but, when all 16 games are over with, only wins/losses will be remembered.
What I take from this game is that unlike Raider teams of the past 6 years, this one looked like crap for 58 minutes and found a way to win. It doesn’t really matter who was at fault for the 58 minutes of poor play. At the end of the day, they won.
This is a small step, but, it’s a step all crappy teams have to take in order to rise out of the pits that we’ve resided in the past 6 years.
It’s a division win, on the road.
Those of you old enough to remember, will recall how many absolutely awful games Jim Plunkett played, only to pull out the victory in the end.
The last 2 times J-Russ has left the field for the last time, our ball-club was in the lead, in position to take the game.
This is a huge deal. That’s what I look for in a QB.
Jeff George put up a lot of pretty numbers in his career.
But, none of those numbers mean squat if you don’t win.
September 21st, 2009 at 1:21 pm
“Two players often criticized for underachieving took it upon themselves to deliver victory, safety Michael Huff by twice saving the team’s collective backside, and quarterback JaMarcus Russell by finally finding a way to push it into the end zone.
For his efforts, including two second-half interceptions, Huff was given the first game ball of his four-year NFL career, making him the only Raider to immediately receive one.
Russell might consider awarding his teammate another game ball — or a trophy or a certificate or a dinner —’
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Monte Poole
September 21st, 2009 at 1:22 pm
I think they should have added a weight clause to JRuss’s contract, 250 Lb or less dude, he’s starting to look like SeaBass at QB.
September 21st, 2009 at 1:22 pm
This Raiders team is close to being VERY good.
Neither backup QB has much more upside to be found — we, and their previous teams, have seen them be about as good as they will be.
Russell is a different story…his potential hasn’t even been tapped yet. (And the only way it will be, is to make him carry this team.)
- Kirk Morrison must not have liked his job being threatened! Kirk was a monster yesterday. Thomas Howard needs ot learn how to shed even the slightest blocks!! Edge? What edge?
- Janikowski once again proves he’s the best kicker in Raiders history — a great signing, in any round, to be around this long and still be at the top of his game. Way to go, Al.
September 21st, 2009 at 1:23 pm
No Monte ! no dinners ! LOL
September 21st, 2009 at 1:24 pm
I believe Hackett’s record as a coach and play caller is pretty forgetable, MR.
I don’t like the Tollner/Cable combo either, really – but there is a method to the madness.
What they’re doing is bringing in experienced coaches who have a track record of coaching up young guys.
Anyone who doesn’t see this as a rebuilding year is missing the whole setup. Davis himself was skeptical about our playoff chances.
He got rid of the offensive wiz kid and brought in an OLine coach (something he’s done several times before). Cable is real meat and potatoes, and the coaching staff’s goal is to simplify the playcalling and scheme, coach up youngsters and try to get improvement.
You want to install a Sean Peyton offense here, it won’t work at this point.
We will have more wins this year. Hopefully, we can enjoy progress, competitiveness, and maybe a chance at a wildcard berth.
September 21st, 2009 at 1:24 pm
look at the N.F.L starters not many elite QBs need to back off doughboy one thing i like is he seemes calm all the time regaurdless teammates also say this so dont try to dis that statement.
September 21st, 2009 at 1:24 pm
Lets enjoy the victory and beat down Denver at home and first place
September 21st, 2009 at 1:24 pm
FILM STUDY WORKS WONDERS!!!!!!!
Thanks Nnamdi!
Now if only he can teach Mr. Russell to lead.
September 21st, 2009 at 1:24 pm
Man, it’s almost sickening…
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The Real MaddenRaider Says:
Raiders4eve,
Obviously, the Jets will take Crabtree next year. Read the first part of your comment. Crabtree’s doing the right thing, IMO. The 49ers are trying to take advantage of Davis’s misuse of his first pick by using the gaffe as leverage to sign Crabtree on the cheap. I’ll bet you the Niners wind up signing him, though. For what he’s asking.
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WTF, MR??
A month ago you were slamming anyone who said Crabtree wasn’t the greatest bargain in the NFL draft for years…and that Crabtree would be signed for his slot value.
Now, you say the Niners are going to pay him what he wants?
MR — YOU ARE THE SINGLE BIGGEST BAND-WAGON JUMPER IN THE BLOG.
If Emmy’s were given for hypocrisy, MR would get the lifetime achievement award.
Just like the Raiders are “us” and “we” now that they seem to be turning the corner…MR’s other statements need to be softened a little, or he won’t be able to save face.
Well plotted, MR — almost as good as that script you can’t finish!
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September 21st, 2009 at 1:26 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 1:13 pm
…He needs to make Paul Hackett the OC in name and pay him. I can see that being Al’s first step to screwing this up, right there. Just brushing off Hackett and letting him leave.
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MR,
So, what makes you believe that Hackett is anywhere near being the OC or calling the plays?
September 21st, 2009 at 1:29 pm
# Silver-n-Smac Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 1:21 pm
Fellas,
There’s no way to suger-coat how bad yesterday’s performance was, but, when all 16 games are over with, only wins/losses will be remembered.
What I take from this game is that unlike Raider teams of the past 6 years, this one looked like crap for 58 minutes and found a way to win. It doesn’t really matter who was at fault for the 58 minutes of poor play. At the end of the day, they won.
This is a small step, but, it’s a step all crappy teams have to take in order to rise out of the pits that we’ve resided in the past 6 years.
It’s a division win, on the road.
Those of you old enough to remember, will recall how many absolutely awful games Jim Plunkett played, only to pull out the victory in the end.
The last 2 times J-Russ has left the field for the last time, our ball-club was in the lead, in position to take the game.
This is a huge deal. That’s what I look for in a QB.
Jeff George put up a lot of pretty numbers in his career.
But, none of those numbers mean squat if you don’t win.
September 21st, 2009 at 1:30 pm
Jhill,
I don’t think Eagles fans think Kolb is the worst QB in the NFL…he threw for what 391 yards two TD one INT until a couple of late game meaningless ints.
Actually, I don’t think Russell has ever thrown for 391 yards…or 291…
…your point would be well taken if not for one fact…none of those guys were the #1 overall player selected in the draft…our expectations of Russell should be high.
September 21st, 2009 at 1:30 pm
does anyone else get the comment “your posting comments too quickly. slow down”?
wtf
anyway
Raider Oline has been solid, Jamrcus has had plenty of time to throw, and teams are now and will continue to play 8 in a box until Jamrcus hits at least 55% of his passes and at least 40% to his WRs.
September 21st, 2009 at 1:31 pm
You’re right Omni!
JRuss sucks!
But Cassell was awful yesterday. How much is he making? You think we are hard on Russell? The Denver fans were ALL OVER Orton and the were winning!
Quinn is awful, Leftwich, Jason Campbell, Shaun Hill, Delhomme, Kolb, Pennington, Bulger, and Garrard?
All these guys teams are claiming they have the worst QB in the league, right along with us.
September 21st, 2009 at 1:35 pm
“I just don’t understand why JR doesn’t man up and says I had a very bad game I m trying to win, where is his credibility n leadership role? If u have a bad game u man up n say that u are aware u need to step ur game up n happy u got lucky in this game. This man seems he don’t care abt how he plays. Did u guys see him in comcast interview post show?”
OK, let me get this straight. If he goes in the tank after a bad game and it snowballs, then he will only play worse. if he takes a bad game in stride and “personally” vows to get better then he has committed himself to getting better. He doesn’t HAVE to come out and say how he played, the results are there. This is not a guy that is gonna dwell on a bad game or even a bad play. He moves forward and for a young guy that is a great quality to have. You cannot underestimate the guy’s pride just because he’s cool in an interview- what do you want him to do, meltdown Jim Mora style? He played terrible, he played the last drive to win the game and WE WON. Since when did the stats matter after a win? You guys are really overblowing the expectations because the defense is playing better- I guess 6 years straight of losing can do that. We have to temper our enthusiasm because these guys are REALLY YOUNG! Give them time to gel and they will get better on offense. We have to have the youngest offense in the league.
One thing that is really interesting is that this guy WAS a 67% passer in college because he had an offesive coordinator that played to his strengths. He had passes early on that got confidence up, not bombs that hoped for pass interference. IMO, they have toyed too much with his mechanics and now they have him thinking about how to throw the ball instead of him just being a natural passer. He can make the throws that he’s missing in his sleep because I’ve seen him do it his whole career at LSU.
If he’s benched, it will set the club back tremendously. He needs to take his lumps and you “so-called” fans need to be patient with a guy with 18 starts under his belt. Stop looking elswhere because of the Flaccos and Ryans of the world- totally different systems and they have all had the same system in place for more than one off season. My thought is to let this guy play. I was thinking about McNabb riding into work this morning and his mechanics were always criticized- 10 years later and several NFC championships he’s still here and one of the best. It takes time, not 18 games either, time and patience.
Finally, if Cable was so unhappy with Russell- he would call him out. There is a such thing as having a bad game or a string of bad games. Look at Jake Delhomme, Kurt Warner, anyone see Romo lay an egg last night? Anyone watch ELi Manning in his first couple of seasons? OR any other QB not named Flacco or Ryan in their first few seasons? Maturation and evolution is a part of playing QB. Football is not a game for the impatient.
September 21st, 2009 at 1:35 pm
But we are Raider Fans (RAIDERNATION) There not like us Fool..
September 21st, 2009 at 1:37 pm
Let’s beat Denver, any way, any score.
Just win.
2-1 in the division, 2-1 in the AFC.
Above-.500 for the 1st time in a long, long time.
That’s what I expect to be talkin’ about next Monday.
September 21st, 2009 at 1:38 pm
Ironically, Mario Henderson has become the unsung hero of the Oline.
I thought Ricky Brown did a good job too. Our LBs in general are looking more productive playing behind a better Dline.
And Huff better rub some of that Bust-B-Gone ointment on JaWalrus. What is so hard about a screen pass?
Gripes:
Cable, stop calling the blind weakside rollouts! They are getting us squat!
Run sweeps with DMAC, Bush up the gut, and then use play action on first down every now and then!
If we throw on first down we ALWAYS run on 2nd down. DUH?! Mix it up!
Hit DMAC on a slant or a wheel route, like SD did to us with Sproles!
I am getting so tired of this predictable crap:
1st down: run up middle for 2 yds.
2nd down: run up middle for 3 yds.
3rd down: seven step drop, near fumble, then deep pass to a rookie who is covered.
September 21st, 2009 at 1:40 pm
I say give the kids a chance, one game does not define this team. We are starting to play Raider football, yesterday was sloppy by two teams, and Sunday is another day. Lets pound Donkies into the dirt running on all cylinders!
September 21st, 2009 at 1:41 pm
Pennington would take this Raiders team to 10-6 right now, weak arm and everything. But, he’s not here.
This is JaMarcus Russell’s team. In JaMarcus we trust…because the options aren’t any better.
One thing I know for sure…Michael Bush should be the #1 ball-carrier for this team. DMC is not the guy to bang inside 15 times a game. MBush should be the #1 RB…and DMC should be #1a — thrown to as much as handed-off to.
Gotta run.
It IS a great day to be a Raiders fan!
September 21st, 2009 at 1:42 pm
Now we are talking…
September 21st, 2009 at 1:43 pm
Enjoy the Flap this week
September 21st, 2009 at 1:43 pm
Orton will go down..
September 21st, 2009 at 1:44 pm
Madden first time i agree with you maybe things are changing
September 21st, 2009 at 1:45 pm
If we are 2-1 next week, that will be the first time in several years that we began the season above .500. That is what I call progress.
September 21st, 2009 at 1:45 pm
The Broncos looked good yesterday….wait, they played a Rob Ryan defense…never mind…
September 21st, 2009 at 1:46 pm
You guys are more annoying after a win than you are after a loss. And you guys say I like to fight? I’ve been doing nothing but giving props in here since the win. Hayes, on the other hand, has the gloves off. Just foaming at the mouth. All I ever said that was that if we run the football more and avoid that stupid prevent, we’d win. And that’s what happened. There’s nothing hypocritical about it.
September 21st, 2009 at 1:53 pm
PROPS to Michael Huff. I admit, I have probably been one of the biggest haters on this blog of Michael Huff! He had a GREAT game yesterday. Not only his interceptions, but he was solid in tackling, and his pass defense was very good. Two weeks in a row for him. What is the difference? Is it him, our D-Line, John Marshall, or all three?
I think we have something special in Louis Murphy.
Hate on DHB all you want, he is a very good blocker. Watch his block on DMacs TD.
JaMarcus drives me INSANE!!
September 21st, 2009 at 1:56 pm
Jerome Bettis on Russell and the Raiders:
“So now you have a player who hasn’t met his potential, and you have coaches who can’t develop players. That’s the Raiders organization for you.
Look at my old team, the Steelers. If you’re a first-round pick on the Steelers, that team is going to find a way to coach and whip you into Pro Bowl form or they’re going to die trying. Winning starts with the ownership, whose decision-making is crucial. Al Davis just doesn’t work that way. Because of his philosophy and his reputation, he can’t get good coaches to come there. And without coaches he can’t develop his talent. JaMarcus Russell is just one of many examples of what happens in this system, and until Davis relinquishes control of that franchise, we’re going to see the same thing.
Here’s another thing I don’t like about how Russell’s being handled: Oakland cut Jeff Garcia, and now there’s no one to scare Russell. As a football player, you always need the threat of being benched. If you don’t, you never have to push yourself. For me, that threat was Duce Staley. Pittsburgh brought in Duce at one point in my career and I got benched. I knew Duce was a good player so I had to do something. Duce got hurt, I changed some things, and I had one of my best years ever.
I just don’t think Russell will get that fear, that jolt, until he sits. And Bruce Gradkowski, Oakland’s backup, is not going to scare JaMarcus into changing anything.”
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I think he is right about Russell being too comfortable…but I don’t think Garcia was the guy to scare Russell into taking his career seriously…Garcia can’t throw a 20 yard pass anymore.
September 21st, 2009 at 1:56 pm
AT THIS POINT I HOPE I AM WRONG ABOUT RUSSELL BECAUSE NO MATTER WHAT AS GOES RUSSEL SO GOES OUR NEXT FEW SEASONS I WOULD MUCH RATHER SEE HIM DO WELL.
BUT AT SOME POINT HE NEEDS TO NUTT UP LIKE HE DID IN THE FINAL DRIVE AND JUST SAY F-THIS IM LETTING IT RIP AND JUST START SLINGING IT.
I REALY DO HOPE THAT CHAZ IS GOING TO BE THE HELP THAT BIG AL AND ALL THE COACHES THINK.
BYE THE WAY ANY WORD ON CHAZ AGAINST THE DONKEYS ???
September 21st, 2009 at 1:56 pm
I agree with post 428… “D. Play-calling has been bad, really bad. If Al is serious about winning some games, he needs to force Cable to hire an offensive coordinator.”
I was wondering that last night (I’m from the UK :]), Cable is a good head coach I think but we really do need someone dynamic calling offensive plays… I did question a few Cable calls – not that I know it all.. but they were dodgy some of them..
September 21st, 2009 at 1:56 pm
So now you have a player who hasn’t met his potential, and you have coaches who can’t develop players. That’s the Raiders organization for you.
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What about Asomugha, Howard, Lechler, Jano, CJohnson, ZMiller, Henderson, JLH, etc., etc.
Al’s system CAN develop players. Just not many QBs.
September 21st, 2009 at 2:03 pm
Im happy that we won the game don’t get me wrong. But keep in mind it was KC. They are predicted to be worse than us we are supposed to win that game.
I know the odds were on them betting wise and stuff but people on networks and stuff know the raiders should beat them.
The way they played that game however will not give us wins against other teams.
September 21st, 2009 at 2:05 pm
Bettis has taken too many head shots. He slurs his words. Tell me which QB’s have back-ups that are a threat to their position. Rothlesberger, Brees, Brady, McNabb, Cutler, Collins, Edwards, Flacco, Farve, Warner, Rivers, Delomme, Hasselbeck etc. Sounds good but it has no basis in fact.
September 21st, 2009 at 2:06 pm
# KoolKell Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 2:08 pm
What other General Manager would be alowed to produce a 25-75 record.
We have the worst GM in all of sport.
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Too bad, so sad Kookie.
Not to mention we have the worst QB.
September 21st, 2009 at 2:06 pm
But Garcia would clearly have been better than Russell in weeks 1 and 2..
September 21st, 2009 at 2:06 pm
MURPHY IS GOING TO BE A RAIDER FOR YEARS TO COME KIND OF MAKES YOU WONDER IF THEY KNEW HE WAS THAT GOOD AND THEY WERE GOING TO GET HIM WOULD THEY HAVE TAKEN DHB.
September 21st, 2009 at 2:08 pm
What other General Manager would be alowed to produce a 25-75 record.
We have the worst GM in all of sport.
September 21st, 2009 at 2:08 pm
Not to mention DHB’s first catch was across the middle. Shows either he wanted to make his first catch, or he has the grape nuts to go over the middle.
Personally I am very impressed and excited about our receiving corps. Chaz, DHB, Murphy, and Higgins, not to shabby, young fellas too.
Now if we have a QB that could get them the ball, no telling how good we could be.
September 21st, 2009 at 2:09 pm
I agree, I love Murphy, he just doesnt give up trying to catch even Russell’s most awkward throws!
September 21st, 2009 at 2:09 pm
654. Garcia spent the entire camp busted up and not practicing with the team. He asked to be cut and when he was it took McNabb to get his ribs broken before he landed a two week gig with the Eagles. Garcia is not a viable option.
September 21st, 2009 at 2:11 pm
“Hate on DHB all you want, he is a very good blocker. Watch his block on DMacs TD.”
Ya that was an outstanding block. Hard to hate on the kid.
Caught the one good pass that was thrown in his zip code yesterday. Actually caught what would have been a TD, negated by penalty.
September 21st, 2009 at 2:11 pm
Garcia can’t even beat out Kevin Kolb and will be the 3rd string QB (scout team anyone??) this Sunday.
September 21st, 2009 at 2:12 pm
I don’t hate DHB, he hasn’t even played a season yet! We need to be patient. I love what Sanjay Lal is doing with our WRs!
September 21st, 2009 at 2:13 pm
He needs to be able to make the short and medium passes too…and I find the 67% hard to believe considering he couldn’t make the big passes yesterday. The pass to Murphy was shocking – I think it was the one with Leggett covering and him throwing it to the wrong side :S
September 21st, 2009 at 2:14 pm
Russ was a 67% passer at LSU because he had arguably the best WRs in the country. All of his LSU WRs went on to be top draft picks. JR could pretty much throw the ball up and those guys would go after it and usually come down with it. He doesnt have that here.
September 21st, 2009 at 2:14 pm
Raider Headbutt Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 2:03 pm
Im happy that we won the game don’t get me wrong. But keep in mind it was KC. They are predicted to be worse than us we are supposed to win that game.
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When these 2 teams play you can throw out ALL predictions.We could be 15-0 and slaughter the whole NFL and then play KC and LOSE,and vice-verse.This is THEE GREATEST rivalry in the history of all sports,imo.The TOTAL HATRED these 2 teams share 4 each-other is unmatched.Even tho Jmac stunk up the joint,he is only 1 player.KC just switched to a 3-4 and threw everything they had at Jmac,didnt you see the kitchen sink laying on the field!!!
You CANT EVER say it’s the Chief’s when we play them.This feud goes back 50 years and it will only be worse in another 50 years
September 21st, 2009 at 2:14 pm
To all Garcia lovers. He has been a loser since he left SF before the turn of the century.
September 21st, 2009 at 2:14 pm
DHB will get his. Once teams start keying in on Murphy and Schillens, DHB’s speed will open up some big games for him.
Of course if our lame duck QB can actually throw a pass near him.
September 21st, 2009 at 2:17 pm
Anybody ever think they would see this this season?
http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=0&statisticCategory=INTERCEPTIONS&conference=null&season=2009&seasonType=REG
September 21st, 2009 at 2:17 pm
At LSU JR had the best WRs in College. They were called the three Amigos Dwayne Bowe, Craig Davis and Early Doucet. Those three were amazing and caught everything.
http://www.nola.com/sports/t-p/index.ssf?/base/sports-26/1160039571199750.xml&coll=1
JR has proven that he can perform with some descent WRs.
September 21st, 2009 at 2:17 pm
Janikowski looked pretty good yesterday as well. Both his field goals were proper. Those are ones he typically shanks.
September 21st, 2009 at 2:20 pm
I see what you mean 4eva but the fact remains if they play other teams like that we will not win.
September 21st, 2009 at 2:21 pm
# raidertay Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 2:17 pm
At LSU JR had the best WRs in College. They were called the three Amigos Dwayne Bowe, Craig Davis and Early Doucet. Those three were amazing and caught everything.
http://www.nola.com/sports/t-p/index.ssf?/base/sports-26/1160039571199750.xml&coll=1
JR has proven that he can perform with some descent WRs.
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Yeah Tay, because 10 STRAIGHT INCOMPLETIONS has to do with our crappy receivers right?
September 21st, 2009 at 2:21 pm
THE SECTION I WAS IN AT THE GAME MONDAY NIGHT ACTUALLY BOOED RUSSELL WHEN HE CAME BACK IN AFTER BEING HURT,
I HOPE YESTERDAYS PERFORMANCE WAS A PRODUCT OF THAT SORE ANKLE.
NAH HE SUCKS.
AND IMAGINE AT THE BEGINING OF THE YEAR I WAS WORRIED ABOUT OUR DEFENSE.
September 21st, 2009 at 2:22 pm
He couldn’t even throw simple screen passes, check downs, or swing passes yesterday. The most simple of all passes. ouch…
September 21st, 2009 at 2:23 pm
# raidertay Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 2:14 pm
Russ was a 67% passer at LSU because he had arguably the best WRs in the country. All of his LSU WRs went on to be top draft picks. JR could pretty much throw the ball up and those guys would go after it and usually come down with it. He doesnt have that here.
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Still, Bowe and Doucet had to have the ball thrown to them to catch it. I think the Jerome Bettis comments do ring true. right now the only person to push Russell is Raider Fan.
September 21st, 2009 at 2:25 pm
Hey Bettis, what QB was pushing either Manning?
September 21st, 2009 at 2:28 pm
Palmer, Orton, Ryan. Thats 18 of the 32 starting QB’s with just backups. The game only slows down and you develop as a QB with experience, Sorry, but this is 2nd year not his 3rd year. The 1st was clipboard and headset per Kiffin.
September 21st, 2009 at 2:29 pm
Comparing Russell to Flacco, is like comparing the Balitmore Ravens to the Oakland Raiders. Ridiculous.
September 21st, 2009 at 2:30 pm
I agree with that Headbutt =)
September 21st, 2009 at 2:30 pm
Garcia has happy feet. He was here purely to push Russell and mentor him. Garcia was never a system fit.
Al has trouble developing QBs ’cause he keeps trying to draft LaMonica and it’s not working.
He saw Russell throw a 70 yard bomb on his knees and thought to himself “if I can get a WR to just run up and catch thath thing, we’ll be unbeatable!”
And you know what really cracks me up about everyone vs. Al?
Al Davis is right.
Before you laugh yourself to death, hear me out.
We’ve seen his defensive philosophy realized with the proper players and coaches. One on one matchups won by superior athletes.
His offensive philosophy is ‘go deep.’ Big arm QB to lightning quick WR.
Imagine if Russell had the football IQ to go along with that arm? We would steamroll opponents.
I wouldn’t give up on Russell, because the kid has a cannon and is obviously 24 years old. The league is too spoiled with Ryan and maybe Sanchez. Flacco not really. Look at the numbers. They planned around him, not for him.
Where I do give Flacco and the Ravens organization tons of credit is Flacco’s offseason progression and his first two games this year. That’s what we needed from Russell.
September 21st, 2009 at 2:30 pm
Oakglenn Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 2:31 pm
# exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 2:25 pm
Hey Bettis, what QB was pushing either Manning?
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An old, old, veteran Q. I think his name was Archie.
Raiderwoj Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 2:33 pm
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 2:25 pm
Hey Bettis, what QB was pushing either Manning?
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Archie
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Should have added “on the roster” lmfao
September 21st, 2009 at 2:31 pm
If I ruled the Raiders…
McFadden remains the starter in title only. The reality would be at least 15-20 carries per game with Michael Bush, and 10-15 carries per game for McFadden with at least 5 pass attempts. Never run McFadden up the middle, unless it is preceeded by a fake.
Keep handing the ball off, but mix a pass-heavy series in once in a while that allows Russell to just let loose. He plays like a person that is over-thinking things for the first 3 quarters. Then he takes over the game in the 4th, when his only objective is to move the ball down field. Cable needs to allow a drive like that to happen in all 4 quarters.
Get Miller and Meyers in the game together. Our twin towers work best in Russell’s comfort zone (the middle of the field). Let them do their thing and the accuracy with his WR’s will come with time and repetitions.
Stay away from the sideline. The playbook should be fly routes, post routes, slant routes, drag routes and hitch routes until Russell is once again comfortable throwing to the outside.
Get some trickery in the mix. The Wildcat is way over-played in the NFL now; but there are plenty of other gadget plays. Get McFadden the ball in space, try a flea-flicker with Bush, try some called QB runs, run some reverses with DHB, run more two-back sets with Bush and McFadden in together.etc.
September 21st, 2009 at 2:31 pm
# exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 2:25 pm
Hey Bettis, what QB was pushing either Manning?
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An old, old, veteran Q. I think his name was Archie.
September 21st, 2009 at 2:31 pm
I answered your reply before the question.
September 21st, 2009 at 2:33 pm
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 2:25 pm
Hey Bettis, what QB was pushing either Manning?
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Archie
September 21st, 2009 at 2:33 pm
Oak, guess ur faster
September 21st, 2009 at 2:34 pm
Along with his accuracy problem he needs to be smarter thats for sure, simple things like looking off a receiver will help him dramatically with completing passes.
September 21st, 2009 at 2:37 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 2:30 pm
Imagine if Russell had the football IQ to go along with that arm? We would steamroll opponents.
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He doesn’t, and unfortunately we won’t. It’s not something you can teach. You either have it or you don’t. It comes down to the most basic fundamentals of football. It’s not as if he has only been playing the game for a few years.
September 21st, 2009 at 2:38 pm
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 2:25 pm
Hey Bettis, what QB was pushing either Manning?
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Exla,
First…goooo Lakers!
Second, I think the Manning’s and most successful NFL QBs are self-motivated, so I think you are onto something here. He shouldn’t need a backup pushing him. The problem is Russell is not self motivated…his fat azz is clue #1 that he is not 100% committed to being a great NFL QB at this point.
That could change, but people rarely find that within themselves…it is usually how they handled business since they were 15 or so.
I have downgraded my expectations on Russell to ADEQUATE NFL QB. I don’t think there is much of a chance he will ever be what he could have been…unless he finds that self-motivation within…but I am not going to hold my breath for it.
September 21st, 2009 at 2:38 pm
the reason Bettis said his coaches would die trying is because the Rooney family has deeper ties 2 the mob than the DeBartalo family.So if a coach couldnt coach up a player,he prolly thought he was gonna die =)
September 21st, 2009 at 2:39 pm
UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 2:21 pm
THE SECTION I WAS IN AT THE GAME MONDAY NIGHT ACTUALLY BOOED RUSSELL WHEN HE CAME BACK IN AFTER BEING HURT,
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The STADIUM booed when he came back in. That will help his development I am sure.
September 21st, 2009 at 2:40 pm
Einstein Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 2:21 pm
# raidertay Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 2:17 pm
At LSU JR had the best WRs in College. They were called the three Amigos Dwayne Bowe, Craig Davis and Early Doucet. Those three were amazing and caught everything.
http://www.nola.com/sports/t-p/index.ssf?/base/sports-26/1160039571199750.xml&coll=1
JR has proven that he can perform with some descent WRs.
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Yeah Tay, because 10 STRAIGHT INCOMPLETIONS has to do with our crappy receivers right?
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No Einstein, Someone asked the question why was Russ so accurate in College. I was simply answering the question. I wasnt even talking about Yesterday’s game.
September 21st, 2009 at 2:40 pm
Check out these numbers in contrast.
JaMarcus is ranked the 30th QB in the NFL after 2 games.
Rank Name Yds TD Int Rate
1 Drew Brees 669 9 2 132.9
30 JaMarcus Russell 317 1 2 45.3
Not good fellas. Not good at all. Some of the QB’s with better stats, Orton, Quinn, Bulger, Cassell (one game), Kolb (one game), Leftwhich, Jason Campbell…..
Look I want him to succeed. WTF wouldn’t I want our QB to be good. He just ISN’T, and he drive me NUCKIN FUTS!!
September 21st, 2009 at 2:41 pm
Did anybody see that block by mcfadden on the throw to watkins on the last drive he has been hitting people lately
September 21st, 2009 at 2:42 pm
The only stats that count are wins and losses. A win is a win. Lets move on and get ready for the Donks
September 21st, 2009 at 2:43 pm
Russell has only 19 completions after two games. That is the lowest in the NFL. The next closest is Chad Penningtion at 24, but he has only played ONE game.
September 21st, 2009 at 2:45 pm
Bart, good call about using 2xTEs. Russell is so much more confident (for whatever reason) gunning straight downfield and his game is made for Miller and Myers.
At LSU, Bowe, Doucett and Davis ran a lot of crossing patterns with Russell hitting targets across the middle – rather than vertically along the touchlines.
Totally agree that Bush should be the main back – he has the power and the strength to make the inside yards. DMC just isn’t big enough or resilient enough and is better as a Reggie Bush swing back. Rankin is the 2nd best option behind Bush.
Cut Fargas.
I hope Watkins gets some game time alongside Murphy. DHB is a project and needs time. There is no point in hurting his confidence. Watkins is ready.
Cut Walker.
I would keep Morris at Center and play McQuistan at LG. He is bigger and better able to watch Henderson’s inside. I still can’t fathom Cable’s loyalty for Green. Pears must be limited if he can’t beat Green and Barnes must see RT as his best opportunity.
September 21st, 2009 at 2:45 pm
Romanowski is the only person who keeps it real when he’s talking about the raiders
September 21st, 2009 at 2:46 pm
Gannon = self motivated
Russell = not so much
If Russell had 1/10th of Gannon’s fire/passion/work ethic he would be the ultimate qb.
Right now I just don’t see it. Hopefully he can find it by himself, because Al Davis isn’t going to stick him with coaches that will demand it from him…this is a player’s organization…coaches come second.
September 21st, 2009 at 2:47 pm
Brees doesn’t have ANY of the natural abilities JaMarcus has such as; SIZE, HEIGHT, WEIGHT, and ARM STRENGTH. But, he does have football IQ, THAT is the difference my Raider brothers.
September 21st, 2009 at 2:47 pm
If you want to compare Russell to Flacco, why not compare the Ravens to the Raiders?
September 21st, 2009 at 2:49 pm
And don’t blame cable for where dmc and bush run bush said its their cal whether to go inside or outside
September 21st, 2009 at 2:51 pm
695.
Brees is on another planet but Russell is very accurate inside the hash marks. We just have to extend it to outpatterns and he will be All Pro.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVoqA-LKGb4
September 21st, 2009 at 2:52 pm
if you watched LSU play, Russell was not ”jumpball QB”. Did his guys make plays on the ball? yea. but he also threw the ball accurately. they ran a precision offense w/ 3 & 4 wrs and he had to do more than just throw the ball up. he earned his completion %. again, the screwed w/ his mechanics too much & now he’s thinking too much about ”how” to throw the ball. jimbo fisher called plays that suited russell & played to his strengths.
September 21st, 2009 at 2:52 pm
BUT, in defense of the stats and statements I made regarding Brees vs. Russell…. Brees wasn’t very good in San Diego until Rivers was drafted, and in his final year with the Chargers Brees was very good. Then he moves to the Saints and he is stellar. Lets just hope that scenario isn’t the same for the JaBlingster and his fur coat.
September 21st, 2009 at 2:52 pm
Russell is our QB, whether we like it or not. Time to move on the the Donks game. It’s going to take an act of god to get Russell out of there, especially if he keeps coming up with 4th qtr go ahead TD drives. That is going the excuse they use to keep him in there. We should be 2-0 when it’s all said and done.
September 21st, 2009 at 2:55 pm
Oakglenn Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 2:39 pm
UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 2:21 pm
THE SECTION I WAS IN AT THE GAME MONDAY NIGHT ACTUALLY BOOED RUSSELL WHEN HE CAME BACK IN AFTER BEING HURT,
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The STADIUM booed when he came back in. That will help his development I am sure.
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I thought I heard boos…then he threw a TD and the crowd went wild!
September 21st, 2009 at 2:56 pm
Thank You very much DT42…that was totally awesome!!!
September 21st, 2009 at 2:59 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 2:11 pm
“Hate on DHB all you want, he is a very good blocker. Watch his block on DMacs TD.”
Ya that was an outstanding block. Hard to hate on the kid.
Caught the one good pass that was thrown in his zip code yesterday. Actually caught what would have been a TD, negated by penalty.
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your right why hate him now and i agree on the td that he should of had for his very first nfl td if it wasnt for the slob cornell he woulda had his first nfl td and my money is on murphy he is the best rookie wr its a shame he was selected in round 4 but it is sad that he actually have his first nfl td before our first round draft pick but aye im not complainin i hope jruss and dhb pulls it together against denver and i think cable has something against javon its either he is not 100% or they just dont like him but once i here news that chaz is coming back i will jump for joy because then jruss will actually be back on track with his throwing because his second fav target(1st zach miller)will be back that will help him get the ball out more and then will help him work on gettin the ball to dhb n murphy
September 21st, 2009 at 3:00 pm
Eienstien…check out post 705 and then tell me if you feel the same way
September 21st, 2009 at 3:01 pm
# 16yearsold16yearfan Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 2:41 pm
Did anybody see that block by mcfadden on the throw to watkins on the last drive he has been hitting people lately
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16/16, the SD game last year in their yard, they got real physical with us, and Dmac starting knocking heads off. That earned some respect for him from me. Now, if he can only keep his feet when he is toting the rock.
September 21st, 2009 at 3:01 pm
16yearsold16yearfan Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 2:49 pm
And don’t blame cable for where dmc and bush run bush said its their cal whether to go inside or outside
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What? Who’s call? The player’s? I don’t think so.
“Run the flip, run the flip,” McFadden said he was thinking in the huddle with 72 seconds left in Sunday’s game. “I guess me and coach are on the same page.”
“I just went with my gut there,” Raiders coach Tom Cable said of his play call. “I knew the play would be there if we needed a big play.”
So the players decide if they run inside or out? No they don’t.
September 21st, 2009 at 3:08 pm
Mike Mitchell make any plays yesterday?
September 21st, 2009 at 3:08 pm
Raiders P Shane Lechler averaged 56.9 yards on seven punts Sunday against Kansas City, and K Sebastian Janikowski made a 54-yard and a 48-yard field goal. Each one received a game ball. “Our two kickers put this this team on their back and carried us,” coach Tom Cable said.
September 21st, 2009 at 3:10 pm
After the game yesterday bush said when the running backs get the ball its their choice to go off tackle or inside the tackles he said they need to get better at that
September 21st, 2009 at 3:16 pm
4evaRaider
your welcome, Brees just blew me away with that performance but i really think that JRuss can pull it together. He just needs to keep pushing. I look at what he can do inside the hashmarks and he is very accurate. Its anything outside the hashmarks and he struggles.
September 21st, 2009 at 3:18 pm
Rich Gannon was drafted by the Patriots in 97 who were going to turn him into a D-Back. His first part of his career, he was barely a journeyman. He was a backup for the Vikings, ‘Skins and Chiefs. Only after Gruden put him in the West Coast offense did he develop into the 3 time all-pro. From 1987-98, he never could outright win a starting position. He was no Namath, Young, Staubach, Stabler etc. He was a average QB who got wiser and better with age and dedication. A typical AD project like Plunkett. In the Superbowl, his and Callahan’s arrogance helped keep the plays the same, partly contributing to our loss. IMHO
September 21st, 2009 at 3:19 pm
Cable could call more tosses and reverses but its not all his fault
September 21st, 2009 at 3:21 pm
Sorry 16/16…my bad…I thought you meant play calls. Sorry. That makes sense.
September 21st, 2009 at 3:21 pm
Smart players keep an play in the hat for crunch time like Lewis did yesterday. he said he saw the move earlier but saved it.
September 21st, 2009 at 3:21 pm
# Dakota Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 3:08 pm
Mike Mitchell make any plays yesterday?
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he was in for one or two plays, and I think on one or two special teams plays. I don’t think he was credited with any tackles.
September 21st, 2009 at 3:22 pm
Drew Brees also has something else that Russell doesn’t have….about 7 or 8 years experience. and for all his stats, how many times have the Saints been to the playoffs? he was another guy who didn’t play very well early on and is a prime example of why you can’t give up on anyone. no one was praising his football IQ when he was 18 games in, he was just not there yet.
September 21st, 2009 at 3:22 pm
i’d love to see JRuss in a Steelers type passing attack. And maybe add in some WR screens for DHB that would open up the vertical attack. Also i’m really worried about the lack of cut blocking and outside zone plays with this years Raiders. McFadden thrives in a outside zone scheme. Bush is more of a downhill type. I expect Cable to start using his weapons better as the season goes. A 10 win season is a realistic goal.
September 21st, 2009 at 3:23 pm
723
well said.
September 21st, 2009 at 3:23 pm
September 21 4:12 ET “Raiders coach Tom Cable challenged his younger players to practice and study harder. When youre as young as we are in some areas, you have to learn how this is your job and this has to consume you that way,” he said. “Its not like when you leave the office you just check out just go into the real world and do whatever. You dont do that in football. It’s just not possible.”
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That is directed right at Russell. Russell isn’t putting in the work…
September 21st, 2009 at 3:25 pm
You guys should pop in a tape of Steve Young his first year in the league. He’s running around like a lunatic not completing passes. You marvel at his athleticism, but you think, this guy is not going to be a good NFL Q. And there were reasons for that: he went to a terrible team that had poor blocking and no playmakers, and let’s not forget, he was the marquee guy in another league trying to take $$$ from real NFL players, so THEY WERE PISSED AT HIM, and were trying to take him apart. Once he got decent coaching and settled down, he seemed to turn out alright.
September 21st, 2009 at 3:29 pm
Gannon sure changed after he left the team that led him to fame. Ingrate!
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/object/article?f=/c/a/2005/08/07/RAIDERS.TMP&o=1
September 21st, 2009 at 3:30 pm
Where’s the fix JerryMac?
September 21st, 2009 at 3:34 pm
First Cable had to call him out to get him back into the offseason workout program, now he is calling him out about work ethic issues.
Time to grow up Russell. The only one preventing you from being great is the guy with the fat face you stare at in the mirror in the mornings.
September 21st, 2009 at 3:34 pm
1-1 after 2 games is what i think we all expected. i knew this game was going to be tough and we sure made it harder. 1st was the early play calling in which we passed on 1st down, then a predictable run on 2nd, with an even more predictable pass on 3rd.we should of ran from the start.jruss has been brutal at best and we’re working with 2 rookie starting wr’s. no zach yesterday badly overthrown on 1 and dropped that mini hail mary. needs to be utilized better. cornell is awful, gallery injury is concerning, o-line scary. huff,sebass,lechler clutched up. d overall was average but can’t blame them. o was horrible. still 1-1. STOMP THE BRONCS!!!
September 21st, 2009 at 3:38 pm
Oakglenn,
But does Russell have the drive Young had? I seriously doubt it…that was one of the concerns about Russell coming out of the draft…he has the ability, but will he work towards perfecting his game? Young never gave up, worked his butt off and it paid off in the end…right now, unless something really clicks for him, it sure doesn’t appear that he can do what Steve young did.
I am praying for Russell to have that moment where he realizes that he has to spend hours and hours each week perfecting his game, and getting his body into game shape in order to ever fully tap his potential.
September 21st, 2009 at 3:39 pm
”That is directed right at Russell. Russell isnt putting in the work ”
You don’t know that. we have TONS of young guys on this team. how do you know he’s not putting in the work? maybe he’s just having a rough beginning 2 the season.
September 21st, 2009 at 3:39 pm
16yearsold16yearfan Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 3:10 pm
After the game yesterday bush said when the running backs get the ball its their choice to go off tackle or inside the tackles he said they need to get better at that
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Its starting to look like McFadden is giving Fargas a run for his money in who’s worst at reading blocks and field vision.
DMC’s the biggest puzzay I’ve ever seen when it comes to getting tackled.
Its like he’s horrified his legs might get injured so he goes down if someone farts near him.
Shameful…
What? He needs every thing to be perfect to break one?
September 21st, 2009 at 3:40 pm
Maybe Mike Golic can get JaMarcus on the Nutri-System program. Mike lost 50lbs.
I can just see the commercial.
“I’m JaMarcus Russell of the Oakland Raiders and I lost 50lbs on the Nutri-System Diet. Look how good I look and now I can be the fast mobile QB with the rocket arm for Al Davis’s vertical offense.”
September 21st, 2009 at 3:40 pm
Steve Young sat behind one of the best QBs to ever play and played with one of the best coaches & teams in the history of the NFL. The only thing driving him was to get out of Montanas shadow. he sat for a long time too so he had time to further learn the art of QB play. then he played on a team that was not going to settle for less. Who does Russell have to learn from? Garcia skipped practices b/c he didn’t want to help the guy. there was no true veteran presence here to show him the ropes or how to be a leader. has the franchise turned around overnight? that is what people seem to expect from a 24 year old after 18 starts. its not going to happen overnight.
September 21st, 2009 at 3:41 pm
That was most certainly directed at jablubber.1st day of camp this whole blog was up in arms at the franchise QB not giving a damn about his responsibilitys…No off-season work-outs,no off-season ANYTHINGS.Bet your bottom dollar that was directed at Jmac
September 21st, 2009 at 3:41 pm
“Raiders coach Tom Cable on whether there’s a common theme to QB JaMarcus Russell’s erratic passing. “No there’s not. That’s the real issue here, just finding out why those things are going on. As I just talked to the whole team, we each have to do a lot more work. We have to invest a lot more time in what we’re doing every day on our own with our books and note taking and film watching.”
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Ouch, Cable really calling Russell out today…hey buddy, act like a professional is what he is basically saying!
I wonder if Russell even cares?
…maybe this Cable guy isn’t so bad after all? Well, never mind…I don’t want to go too far…
September 21st, 2009 at 3:44 pm
DownTheBayMOG Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 3:39 pm
”That is directed right at Russell. Russell isnt putting in the work ”
You don’t know that. we have TONS of young guys on this team. how do you know he’s not putting in the work? maybe he’s just having a rough beginning 2 the season.
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Scroll down to “Raider wide out Woes” I think its important that Sanjay Lal is our receivers coach? Doesn’t anyone else think thats signifcant in any way?
http://www.raidernationstation.com/2009_regular_season
September 21st, 2009 at 3:44 pm
Dakota I posted this last nite. Sorry to Repost:
# Oakglenn Says:
September 20th, 2009 at 9:04 pm
Priest, the issue with Jamarcus Russell is what Vince Lombardi called “singleness of purpose.” In other words, he has to live, breath, eat, drink, focus on nothing other than being an NFL Q. NOTHING, other than being a BETTER NFL Q should be in his life. He can’t be into partying, lounging, dog fighting, clubbin’. If he is, he will come into games and go 4 for 17.
September 21st, 2009 at 3:45 pm
The only person that can improve Russell’s accuracy is Russell. A coach can point the way, but Russell is going to have to do the work himself.
Up until now, football has been easy for JaMarcus. I don’t know if he wants it bad enough to do what is necessary.
September 21st, 2009 at 3:45 pm
Problem is Jam is going to be SOUNDLY booed in the Coliseum next Sunday. I will bet that guy has never heard a boo directed at him in his life. Now personally, I would not boo him or advocate others to boo him because it does not help a developing player, but I can’t say he doesn’t deserve it with the way he has played this year.
September 21st, 2009 at 3:49 pm
Dakota Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 3:23 pm
September 21 4:12 ET “Raiders coach Tom Cable challenged his younger players to practice and study harder. When youre as young as we are in some areas, you have to learn how this is your job and this has to consume you that way,” he said. “Its not like when you leave the office you just check out just go into the real world and do whatever. You dont do that in football. It’s just not possible.”
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That is directed right at Russell. Russell isn’t putting in the work
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Could be but its a leap. There are a **** load of young players on this team.
Shaughnessy
Bey
Murphy
Satele
Henderson
Russell
DMC
Bush
Miller
ect. ect.
September 21st, 2009 at 3:49 pm
EXACTLY Oakglenn!
That is a ton to ask of Russell, I mean at 24 who wouldn’t be tempted to sit back on the knowledge that the bank account is full and the world is your oyster, but if he wants to be great that is what he will have to do. It is what Manning, Montana, Elway, Brady, all the greats had to do…
September 21st, 2009 at 3:51 pm
Nnamdi 21…which young player looked like the worst QB in the NFL last night? That’s right…Cable can’t come right out and say RUSSELL, but we all know who he is talking about…
…the only question is…will Russell get the message or just laugh it off?
September 21st, 2009 at 3:52 pm
offense obviously will pick it up next week, can’t be worse, right? my brother and i too, were marveling at dmac’s inability to break a tackle, but when there isn’t any holes its hard to even get your legs pumping. vs. sd he looked strong finishing runs but thats when he had room to cut. the entire o has to step up next week. who’s our LG now?
September 21st, 2009 at 4:08 pm
First off..WHY REPOST THE FOLLOWING? You posted it, then 10 min later felt compelled to repost? Because?
IT WAS IGNORED BECAUSE IT WAS WEAK.
Witness: YOU state “When Russell wants to play, he’s money. The throws he completes are really quite nice.”
What are you? A child? “really quite nice”?? WTF?? Gosh, suzie..praytell, what was “quite nice” about it? You do understand that completeing a pass to a wide open receiver is EXPECTED, right?
And “when he wants to play’?? You do realize you just insulted the hell out of him, right? See, shouldn’t he “WANT TO PLAY” everytime he walks on the field? You’re saying he decides to slack off for 58 minutes..but then..he “wants to play”??
LOL…IDIOT TAKE.
Here..let me help you figure it out, ok pumpkin?
AN NFL QB IS EXPECTED/PAID TO PLAY FOR 60 MINUTES..not 2. When you suck, you suck. The fact the other teams mistakes gave you the game doesn’t erase the fact YOU SUCK.
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LA to TheBay Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 12:26 pm
That’s what I’m saying.
The play calling hasn’t been bad at all depending on what context you put it in.
Good play calling for a capable offense.
Poor play calling for forcing a poor offense to complete plays a capable offense could and should.
When Russell wants to play, he’s money. The throws he completes are really quite nice. That throw to DHB was solid. Beats the CB to the inside, puts the ball underneath the safety. Tight coverage, tighter throw.
But when he misses….
September 21st, 2009 at 4:16 pm
3 Sep 27 DEN @ OAK – W
4 Oct 04 OAK @ HOU – W
5 Oct 11 OAK @ NYG – L
6 Oct 18 PHI @ OAK – W
7 Oct 25 NYJ @ OAK – W
8 Nov 01 OAK @ SD – W
9 Bye _
10 Nov 15 KC @ OAK – W
11 Nov 22 CIN @ OAK W
12 Nov 26 OAK @ DAL – W
13 Dec 06 OAK @ PIT – L
14 Dec 13 WAS @ OAK – W
15 Dec 20 OAK @ DEN – W
16 Dec 27 OAK @ CLE – W
17 Jan 03 BAL @ OAK – L
12 – 4 AFC Champion/// Superbowl champ
September 21st, 2009 at 4:28 pm
Plunketthead im assuming you are joking right?
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