Cable mulling options at left guard
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, September 21st, 2009 at 3:39 pm in Oakland Raiders.
When Robert Gallery missed a series with a back injury in the opener and then went down with a broken left fibula against the Chiefs Sunday, the solution was the same.
Move center Chris Morris to left guard and put Samson Satele at center.
Gallery, Cable said, will be out four to six weeks after having surgery Monday (or possibly sooner if he’s a fast healer).
“He’s a great player and hopefully he has a quick surgery and gets back,” Morris said.
Gallery has started the last 34 games for the Raiders at left guard and made 36 consecutive starts. The only time in his career he didn’t play 16 games was in 2006 when he had a groin strain, a calf injury and an elbow dislocation and missed six games.
With Gallery out, Cable wouldn’t commit to making the same Morris/Satele move made in Weeks 1 and 2.
“I want to sit down and really think that through this evening and tomorrow and make a good call,” Cable said. “We’ve got to look at it like the plan to fix the next month where we can be productive that way. That may be the right way to do it. I just want to make sure as I look at the big picture.”
Cable said other options include Erik Pears, Khalif Barnes or Paul McQuistan at left guard, with Morris remaining at center.
More news, notes and quotes:
– Cable said game balls were awarded to kickers Shane Lechler and Sebastian Janikowski, safety Michael Huff, defensive end Greg Ellis and long snapper Jon Condo.
“Our two kickers, in my opinion, they put this team on their back and carried us yesterday,” Cable said.
Janikowski kicked field goals of 48 and 54 yards and was 4-for-4 recording touchbacks on kickoffs, meaning the Chiefs opened every drive at their own 20 after a kickoff. Lechler averaged an incredible 56.9 yards on seven punts with a long of 70 yards and a net of 45.9.
Correcting an error I made yesterday, Janikowski is 23-for-26 for his career at Arrowhead Stadium. He missed two field goal attempts in his first game at Kansas City _ winning it with a last-second field goal _ and then had one blocked in 2002. He has made his last 17 field goal attempts in Kansas City.
“That punter of theirs, I don’t know you punt the ball that far,” Chiefs coach Todd Haley said.
On Oakland’s first two three-and-outs, Lechler had punts of 66 and 70 yards, putting the Chiefs back at their own 16 and then their own 21.
“I thought he single-handedly changed field position by himself,” Cable said.
– Cable wanted the offense to take a hard look at the issues in the passing game which resulted in JaMarcus Russell going 3-for-17 going into the final drive.
“We each have to do, in my opinion, a lot more work,” Cable said. We have to invest a lot more time in what we’re doing every day on our own with our books, and note taking, and film watching, and all those things because I think it has to get so ingrained in your mind that failure is not an option.”
That includes Russell, of course, but is not exclusive to Russell.
“I think that he’s just part of everyone on offense,” Cable said. “This entire offense has got to do that.”
– Doesn’t sound as if there’s much of a chance Chaz Schilens will come to the rescue of the passing game this week.
“I would say very, very little, although he is out of the boot and moving around,” Cable said. “As we talked about last week, he’ll do a little more this week. But, as they told me Thursday, we’ll see.”
– Cable said Johnnie Lee Higgins shoulder sprain was improving and that he would be “questionable” for this week, while safety Hiram Eugene is also questionable with a lower leg strain outside his calf.
Although Eugene’s injury could mean a return to the starting lineup for Huff, Cable said he would be inclined to leave things the way they are if Eugene is healthy. Huff has intercepted three passes in two games and had a breakup on the game’s final play.
“I don’t think there is any reason to change it or do anything crazy like that,” Cable said. “If we had to due to injury that’s one thing, but I think we’re right where we need to be in regards to that.”
– Cable, who benched Huff last season in place of Eugene, said he never got any sense of bitterness or bad attitude after he made the decision.
“Michael Huff is a man’s man,” Cable said. “You don’t get any baloney from a guy like Mike. He’s what you are supposed to be about.”
– The NFL Network’s Deion Sanders had this to say about Huff on the air: “It takes some players a little time to mature in this game and understand what the NFL is all about. He has now hit that point of maturity.”
– A week after catching six passes for 69 yards, tight end Zach Miller was blanked against Kansas City. It was his first game without a reception since Week 3 last season in Buffalo.
“They were paying extra attention to me, a little bit of bracket coverage, making sure a guy was trying to jam me or wall me, that kind of thing,” Miller said. “They made sure that I wasn’t too involved.”
– Richard Seymour, moved up and down the line at different points in the game, was not as conspicuous as he was in his debut against San Diego, but Cable felt he was still very effective.
“He played very well again. Did he have the sacks and all that? No. But it was probably the reason Greg Ellis got a couple, it’s the reason some other guys made the plays they did,” Cable said. “We said when we got him that he had been exposed to a lot of football in his career and so it’s nice to have a guy like that on your team. Tight ends really struggled to block him.”
– Ellis has three sacks in two games _ three more than the Dallas Cowboys have in two games. The Cowboys released Ellis in the offseason.
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September 21st, 2009 at 3:41 pm
yo
September 21st, 2009 at 3:42 pm
4evaRaider Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 3:41 pm
That was most certainly directed at jablubber.1st day of camp this whole blog was up in arms at the franchise QB not giving a damn about his responsibilitys…No off-season work-outs,no off-season ANYTHINGS.Bet your bottom dollar that was directed at Jmac
September 21st, 2009 at 3:52 pm
EXACTLY Oakglenn!
That is a ton to ask of Russell, I mean at 24 who wouldn’t be tempted to sit back on the knowledge that the bank account is full and the world is your oyster, but if he wants to be great that is what he will have to do. It is what Manning, Montana, Elway, Brady, all the greats had to do…
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Nnamdi 21…which young player looked like the worst QB in the NFL last night? That’s right…Cable can’t come right out and say RUSSELL, but we all know who he is talking about…
…the only question is…will Russell get the message or just laugh it off?
September 21st, 2009 at 3:53 pm
Yep keep Morris at center
September 21st, 2009 at 3:54 pm
Rex Ryan say’s the NFL is bringing tampering charges to Jets for tampering with Crabtree!
September 21st, 2009 at 4:03 pm
Man every time I watch Chris Johnson for Tenn. making huge plays and see DMC struggling I can’t help but think we really blew it on this one. I begged the Raiders to look at CJ and they were so in love with DMC they couldn’t come off him. I remember arguing with Tommy Trojan (where is he ?) about this and thinking we could get two players for less than the price of one. And now CJ is well on his way to his 2nd probowl while DMC is tripping over his own feet.
START MICHAEL BUSH NOW!! we simply cannot lose this game if DMC doesn’t get off early. We MUST run the football to win and IMO we must use Bush to beat Denver. Let DMC work his way into performing better, he’s just not getting it done.
I’ve read in here a million times where DMC is soo superior to Fargas and frankly speaking Scarlett I just don’t see it. I’m waiting and hoping, he just has no vision and doesn’t read the defense. He has all the tools but can’t make grandma miss. He has to improve if he wants to continue to start. IMHO
September 21st, 2009 at 4:09 pm
I honestly thought that the Jamarcus bashers were being too hard on the kid, but after yesterday’s game I have nothing to say to defend him…Sanchez, Flacco & Ryan are excelent examples of young QBs who can hit a screen or an out, can look off a safety, and help their running games by being consistent…the completion percentage Jamarcus had yesterday is beyond pathetic for NFL standards….
September 21st, 2009 at 4:10 pm
# Oakglenn Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 3:44 pm
I am going to repost this one more time. Try to drum it into Russell’s head.
# Oakglenn Says:
September 20th, 2009 at 9:04 pm
The issue with Jamarcus Russell is what Vince Lombardi called “singleness of purpose.” In other words, he has to live, breath, eat, drink, focus on nothing other than being an NFL Q. NOTHING, other than being a BETTER NFL Q should be in his life. He can’t be into partying, lounging, dog fighting, clubbin’. If he is, he will come into games and go 4 for 17.
September 21st, 2009 at 4:12 pm
I still want to give Jamarcus a chance, but yes yesterday was pathetic, he needs to play at least like he did against san diego without interceptions or a lot better period this sunday, we can be whooping teams if he grasped this offense, then our defense will be able to stay on the field without having to leave for dehydration cause they been on the field to long without any damn water.
September 21st, 2009 at 4:12 pm
another reason why these kids should not be given so much money before they even do something in the nfl, cause what will motivate them when they get all that money and haven’t done squat.
September 21st, 2009 at 4:13 pm
come on rack-o-sheeit. That’s the best you can do?? Have you found your wife yet?? Might want to try the track.
September 21st, 2009 at 4:14 pm
Well,
I look at it this way…yes it has only been 18 games for Russell, but this was supposed to be the year he started to demonstrate his potential for greatness.
Most of us gave him a pass last season as his “first” year and we were happy that he had two good games to end the year. Then we all expected him to build on those two good games by doing everything possible to improve his game this offseason…he clearly did not do that. How do I know he didn’t do that?
1. His body weight increased…if he had been working out, working on his throws etc in the offseason he would not look even fatter than he did last year. He is 24…he just needs to sit up in bed and yawn to burn calories at this point;
2. His play. 35% pass completion percentage…in the same offense he had last season…and his line is actually giving him time…clearly he actually got worse because he didn’t put in the time…the alternative is that he just sucks that badly! I won’t accept that because that means were are screwed for the next two or three seasons!!!;
3. His coach called him out in the offseason and is clearly calling him out today….a coach isn’t going to do that to a player that he thinks has done everything humanly possible to improve.
Is he a bust yet? No. Is he doing what needs to be done to become the face of this franchise and a great NFL QB and lead the team to greatness? No friggin way.
Come on Russell, you are letting a lot of guys down…what happened to your claim that you couldn’t let your teammates down because they depend on you to help feed their families (or whatever it was that you said last year)?
September 21st, 2009 at 4:16 pm
2-1 after this weekend will be nice, tied for first. but have the edge cause we will beat the broncos, unless san diego wins they will hold the edge cause they beat us, but got whooped in the process, isn’t it great there line is missing two pieces cause we were the aggressors
September 21st, 2009 at 4:16 pm
Chris Johnson is a stud and Priesttj was banging the drum for him in 2008. You were dead on with him…he is doing very well in Tenn.
September 21st, 2009 at 4:16 pm
Of COURSE you wouldn’t boo him, OakWimp..you’re a wimp. No balls. You go with the flow. You want others to think for you, and act for you. Someone tells you to jump, you jump.
Save that weak “don’t boo the widdle boy…his widdle feelings can’t take it.”
Last I saw, a 24 year old is a grown man.
You’ll realize that in 7 years when you turn 24.
Those people who show up at the game pay good money to see players give their best performance.
When Russell shows up out of shape, and admits it, and STILL has his HC pointing out he STILL needs to do extra, then he deserves to be booed if he plays anywhere near the way he played in KC.
You being as bright as a tree stump, wouldn’t grasp that.
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Oakglenn Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 3:45 pm
Problem is Jam is going to be SOUNDLY booed in the Coliseum next Sunday. I will bet that guy has never heard a boo directed at him in his life. Now personally, I would not boo him or advocate others to boo him because it does not help a developing player, but I can’t say he doesn’t deserve it with the way he has played this year.
September 21st, 2009 at 4:16 pm
Speaking of the Cowboys …can you believe Romo had a worse game than JR?
Who could’ve thunk it?
September 21st, 2009 at 4:18 pm
yeah why can’t they all party at JRUSS”S house studying you can study film and have a few beers, take a small chronic break with some strippers, you know they got it like that, lol
September 21st, 2009 at 4:19 pm
Did Al go to the KC game?
September 21st, 2009 at 4:21 pm
I think 1-1 is fair Oaklglenn.
I’ll be interested to see what they do next week. To me the defense didn’t look as dominating either vs the Queefs (rather pedestrian in comparison). Could there really be something to the shortened week Al was referring to and the subsequent team performance? I guess we’ll see next week.
Was taking a look at the schedule this year and the Chargers sched ….I just don’t see how all these “analyst” are so in love with the Dolts. They may very well be a below 500 team – wouldn’t shock me at all.
The Raiders are so variable because of the youth here. But I think they could go anywhere for 7-9 to 9-7
September 21st, 2009 at 4:21 pm
What is really amazing is as poorly as our team has played, they should be 2-0 right now.
September 21st, 2009 at 4:24 pm
Oak, IMO it’s not just Russell geting his act together it’s the entire young offense of skilled players working before and after practice to ge on the same page.
He has to get those guy’s and sit them down and watch film and then work on their timimg after practice. I watch this kid perform in crunch situations and there is no way that you can do that without the ability to be great. They need to get in more work as a unit………period
I would also like to see Fargas grab the young HB’s and do the same thing. The running game is no where near what it should be.
September 21st, 2009 at 4:24 pm
The only difference between JR and Romo is that JR has not established the national credibility yet (Ws) …so while everyone is coming for his head ..they leave Romo be even though he had a much worse game than Russell.
Russell 40 something passer rating. Romo 20s!
Damn!
September 21st, 2009 at 4:25 pm
Terrapin Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 4:16 pm
Speaking of the Cowboys …can you believe Romo had a worse game than JR?
Who could’ve thunk it?
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he did suck last night…too bad for him that the Giants defenders didn’t drop the ints like the KC defenders did for Russell. Whew for us!
September 21st, 2009 at 4:28 pm
ROFLMFAO…YOU DIDN’T JUST SAY THAT??
Oh geez..you’re “posting this one more time to drill it into Russell’s head”??
OH…I SEE..you think Russell reads this blog? And he does what is said in here?
lol…damn man..you know, it’s posters like you that give other Raider fans a bad name. People read blogs, or forums, then see that dumb take, and immediately label Raider fans as being slow, borderline complete idiot.
Oh..and NO, I don’t expect you to back up your words. I expect you to do what you always do..fall down in the fetal position, say something stupid that has nothing to do with backing up anything you say, and then wait for everyone to laugh at you..
ok…..GO!!
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Oakglenn Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 4:10 pm
# Oakglenn Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 3:44 pm
I am going to repost this one more time. Try to drum it into Russell’s head.
# Oakglenn Says:
September 20th, 2009 at 9:04 pm
The issue with Jamarcus Russell is what Vince Lombardi called “singleness of purpose.” In other words, he has to live, breath, eat, drink, focus on nothing other than being an NFL Q. NOTHING, other than being a BETTER NFL Q should be in his life. He can’t be into partying, lounging, dog fighting, clubbin’. If he is, he will come into games and go 4 for 17.
September 21st, 2009 at 4:28 pm
terrapin… funny thing about romo and their game… when he was missing “easy” dump off passes like jr … I was thinking the same thing… wow… familiar.
September 21st, 2009 at 4:29 pm
Richochet whats ur solution to get us better? or do you think there really isnt much we can change this year?
September 21st, 2009 at 4:30 pm
Jason Whitlock writes for kansas city and fox sports called the raiders the worst team in football along with most media people man i’m tired of hearing this i like what cable did yesterday he said hey we got a w in this league write about that we can go over the negative stuff tomorrow but gives these guys credit for showing great character gives us something to build on.
September 21st, 2009 at 4:31 pm
Priest I wrote earlier today you can tell Russell does not have confidence in his Oline or receivers which is bad. The oline personnel keep changing, and the receivers drop everything in their paths. That does not instill confidence in a young Q. Still, HE, has to be the one to get it done.
One real bright spot tho, has been Todd Watkins. I think Watkins could develop if he could actually catch a couple of passes. He is open A LOT. He just can’t catch, or isn’t thrown to. Maybe that can change. Last point, I wonder if rack-o’s wife boos him during sex??
September 21st, 2009 at 4:31 pm
As amazing as that last drive was wha makesit een moe amazing is all the penalties he had to overcome. I’m watcing tha last drive and man there are very few QB’s tha can overcome that many miscues and stay focused enough to pull that off.
I saw him do this a couple of times at LSU, just not nearly as much adversity. Most of his own doing, but he just has tremendous confidence in his ability to win ballgames.
September 21st, 2009 at 4:34 pm
YOU watched Russell in crunch situations, and NO WAY HE CAN DO WHAT HE DID WITHOUT HAVING THE ABILITY TO BE GREAT??
lol…
Great? GREAT?? The guy is approaching BUST STATUS, and you stupidly state that because he made ONE PASS TO A WIDE OPEN RECEIVER LAST WEEK, THAT WAS BROKEN COVERAGE, and also made ONE PASS yesterday, to another WIDE OPEN RECEIVER, that you consider those passes that indicate GREATNESS?
Who do you think you’re kidding?
No, I know..you’re trying to save face..you’re desperate to cling onto something that you hope will stiffle the laughter towards you..but did you really think that stupid comment would work?
Well come on TJ, enlighten us all..put me in my place..detail out those “crunch throws” that got you all giddy with anticipation of him making the Hall of Fame?
psst??? everyone knows you won’t..because you can’t..so just say something stupid now, and get it over with.
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priesttj Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 4:24 pm
Oak, IMO it’s not just Russell geting his act together it’s the entire young offense of skilled players working before and after practice to ge on the same page.
He has to get those guy’s and sit them down and watch film and then work on their timimg after practice. I watch this kid perform in crunch situations and there is no way that you can do that without the ability to be great. They need to get in more work as a unit………period
I would also like to see Fargas grab the young HB’s and do the same thing. The running game is no where near what it should be.
September 21st, 2009 at 4:35 pm
YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO HUFF ?????????
HIS NAME IS MIKE MITCHELL.
MAYBE JAMARCUSS NEEDS SOMEONE TO PEAK OVER THE SHOULDER AT .
September 21st, 2009 at 4:37 pm
Maybe what JR needs is a good booing from the Oakland faithful. Look, the pat in the back and free pass has not worked. Maybe if the fans tighten the screws a little bit the kid will get off his big ol behind and look into what could become a Ryan Leaf or Akili Smith type carreer.
September 21st, 2009 at 4:38 pm
DEN. did fluke vs. CIN., all in all they still have only allowed 13pts. our o has to step up big. gallery out is big, but in this league someone has to step up to the opportunity.cable has to establish the run early without being too predictable. i already put my 2 cents on jruss and dmac. lets step up fellas.
September 21st, 2009 at 4:38 pm
Ricky,
“What are you? A child? “really quite nice”?? WTF?? Gosh, suzie..praytell, what was “quite nice” about it? You do understand that completeing a pass to a wide open receiver is EXPECTED, right?”
What was quite nice is the way he accurately fit the ball between the corner and safety, keeping the ball in an area where only his TIGHTLY COVERED receiver could make the catch, something Alex Smith could never do.
Try reading the post next time.
“And “when he wants to play’?? You do realize you just insulted the hell out of him, right?”
Yes. Again, try reading it next time.
“AN NFL QB IS EXPECTED/PAID TO PLAY FOR 60 MINUTES..not 2. When you suck, you suck. The fact the other teams mistakes gave you the game doesn’t erase the fact YOU SUCK.”
He did. But really, if you think about it, most every play in football, and many other sports which your mammaries would prevent you from playing, is a result of the other team’s mistakes.
So he just took it. Then they took the game.
Kinda like Al Davis took your manhood.
Richochet = Jaded.
Read the post next time instead of taking everything out of context.
Did I read right that you’re married WITH KIDS?
Poor little buggers. With what your wife looks like and how stupid and jaded you are?
And you think the Raiders have no future.
I’m out, Nation.
Be good.
September 21st, 2009 at 4:38 pm
Fat Rob needs to spend a few years learning defense from his brother fat Rex.
September 21st, 2009 at 4:38 pm
FA QBs for 2010:
Kyle Boller
Jon Kitna
Tavarius Jackson
Brodie Croyle
Kellen Clemmens
Mark Brunell
The cupboard is pretty bare if JR doesn’t figure it out.
September 21st, 2009 at 4:39 pm
Richochet Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 4:28 pm
ROFLMFAO…YOU DIDN’T JUST SAY THAT??
Oh geez..you’re “posting this one more time to drill it into Russell’s head”??
OH…I SEE..you think Russell reads this blog?
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Well, he sure isn’t in the film room. He must be reading this blog. Oh wait, your wife cancelled your date and went out with some one else right?? At least we now know what Russell has been doing and where your wife is. You are getting annihillated here rack-o!! You might want to leave again.
September 21st, 2009 at 4:43 pm
With our recent past… priest… it is unbelievable… Which makes it all the more exciting. I can see us winning the SD game…the way we played and losing the game yesterday …the way we played… and not being shocked at all … the other way around is … our current reality.
September 21st, 2009 at 4:43 pm
YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO HUFF ?????????
HIS NAME IS MIKE MITCHELL.
MAYBE JAMARCUSS NEEDS SOMEONE TO PEAK OVER THE SHOULDER AT .
September 21st, 2009 at 4:44 pm
Guy’s the dysfunction on this offense in that drive was ridiculuos. How he pulled that off is damn near unbelieveable.
September 21st, 2009 at 4:47 pm
oh yeah, i’d like to give thanx to those 2 dumbasses who jumped on top of jruss after he tripped on his own man. thank you.
September 21st, 2009 at 4:47 pm
16/16-the press conf. was pretty informative.too bad most on here didn’t see it.you are correct,Rominowski did a good job of evaluating the game and pointed out the main thing that should be taken from the game was we won-and we won on the road in division.listening to him talk about the running game one could understand why Fargas gets carries.Mac and Bush aren’t making the proper reads.
September 21st, 2009 at 4:47 pm
I USUALLY STICK TO OLD SCHOOL JERSEYS I.E. BO JACKSON, HOWIE LONG, ALZADO ETC……
BUT I AM SERIOUSLY CONTEMPLATING GETTING A LOUIS MURPHY JERSEY I REALLY LIKE THE WAY HE PLAYS
AND JUST THINK HE IS GOING TO HIT THE PINE WHEN CHAZ GETS BACK WTF I HATE DAVIS
September 21st, 2009 at 4:48 pm
Time of Possession Raiders 21:21 KC 38:39… can you imagine if we still had Turdell, he would have had a heart attack!
September 21st, 2009 at 4:49 pm
pumped 4 next week. offense will have a better showing.
September 21st, 2009 at 4:52 pm
Locomotive, He speaks well of you……..
September 21st, 2009 at 4:54 pm
You guys remember that game during Art Shell’s second tenure when we beat the steelers with a Carr interception & TD? yesterdays game felt a little bit like that. of 10 possesions 7 three & out, wow! but we won baby, thanks to huff, lechler and jano.
September 21st, 2009 at 4:59 pm
Chris Johnson does look damn good. But to think that he would look that good if we had drafted him is incorrect. The Titans have one of the best o-lines in the league and they have an offensive identity. I would venture to guess that if McFadden had made it to the Jets, he would be off to a better start to his career. Not to say that he won’t fulfill his potential here.
September 21st, 2009 at 5:03 pm
it’s actually amazing everyone is talking about our QB and not our bend but don’t break Def.going into the season one would have thought we’d all be complaining about our D.
September 21st, 2009 at 5:04 pm
Whats unbelievable is you Priest. You somehow are getting dumber by the week. JaMeatball regresses and here you are talking about greatness. I cant decide who is more of a buffoon you or Oakglen. Everytime I think Oak is the dumber one you pop off and vise versa..
shaking my head
September 21st, 2009 at 5:08 pm
Are you kidding me? BOO Russell?!? That’s the dumbest idea I’ve ever heard. Everyone knows Russell is such a moron that wouldn’t think HE was getting booed at. Maybe…just maybe…the chant “Jamarcus is a Fat Ass” might actually get the guy to run a lap or two.
September 21st, 2009 at 5:11 pm
Plunketthead-sorry about yesterday.i was upset because we won a tough road game in division we should have lost,we should have been enjoying it, and everyone was one here biotching like we’d lost another one.
September 21st, 2009 at 5:11 pm
Any well schooled and learned NFL observer knows that Rusell is a big bust.
His accuracy is the worst.
Raiders got lucky to even had been in tha chiefs game. Chiefs just bumbled their way to a loss.
Rusell is a coach killer. Will only make those middle of the field 20-30 yard passes. But ask him to throw a simple screen pass and it gets blocked. Ask him to throw a out and he cant make it.
September 21st, 2009 at 5:16 pm
Well Lefty, I see calmer heads have prevailed. Where did you and 16 see the Romo post game stuff?
September 21st, 2009 at 5:18 pm
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September 21st, 2009 at 5:19 pm
Our defense is looking REALLY good. The minute we plug the Stanford Routt leak, we might really be something! Bowie can’t be any worse. Or get Mitchell in there and go with 3 safeties.
September 21st, 2009 at 5:20 pm
Fugg Jamarcus Russell!
This team is good enought to win INSPITE of him. I think we would all be SHOCKED if AL allowed Cable to bench him so, let’s move the hell on. Sitting here crying about it instead of focusing on the defense and running game is ridiculous. You know Jamarcus is going to drool all over himself so where’s the news? Whah, whah, whah!
We won the game, should be 2-0, and WILL beat the Donkeys!
September 21st, 2009 at 5:33 pm
thats right…that was a HUGE win 4 us considering who it was and where it was played.BIG BIG WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 21st, 2009 at 5:33 pm
The romo postgame is on comcastsportsnet if u don’t live in california than its on comcastsportsnetcalifornia.com
September 21st, 2009 at 5:34 pm
Of course you all know they coming 2 Oakland Nov.15th.EXPECT another hard fought game,maybe even harder
September 21st, 2009 at 5:39 pm
You guys need to chill out on JaMarcus. It was the worst game of his career, yet we still won. He’ll be much, much better in the games ahead.
I think we’ll be able to run it down Denver’s throat next week. And I think Russell hits at least two big TD throws off play-action as Denver crowds the line.
September 21st, 2009 at 5:46 pm
Now that’s how u play football
September 21st, 2009 at 5:57 pm
Lefty —— Dont worry about it.
You didnt do anything worth apologizing for
September 21st, 2009 at 5:58 pm
Chris the first game against SD was the worst game of JaMeatballs career and then yesterday he out did himself so yes that was the worst of his career. Who knows what next week brings!
You need to pull your head out of your butthole and the rest of us need to keep on the loaf. Chill out on Russell? Go eat sh|t!
September 21st, 2009 at 6:05 pm
I didn’t have audio for the game, I know Shane was kicking well, but I didn’t know he started off with a 66 and than a 70 yarder. That is flat-out amazing.
You know who has confidence in Jamarcus, the Vegas sportsbooks. Raiders were 2.5 point favorites Sunday at a book a few minutes ago.
September 21st, 2009 at 6:10 pm
Anyone see Feeney throwing back spin punches at Jake Longs head?
September 21st, 2009 at 6:11 pm
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September 21st, 2009 at 6:13 pm
Vegas, 3 spread here, paper
September 21st, 2009 at 6:24 pm
McFadden is starting because he has a better 40 time than Bush.
September 21st, 2009 at 6:30 pm
I had very high hopes coming into this season for Russell but after watching sundays game those high hopes have been replaced with despair. He was worse yesterday than marc freakn wilson ever was and we all know how bad he was !!
September 21st, 2009 at 6:36 pm
I’m watching NCIS, and it gets over, all of a sudden I’m watching MNR, I haven’t watched wrestling since Andre died? He should of been our nose tackle, imho!
September 21st, 2009 at 6:40 pm
I am with JaMarcus Russell all the way! 30% completion and all! You guys in here are pathetic. The clever names you use and all that….b.s…this kid is struggling, but he fights through, doesn’t get down on himself and makes plays in the clutch. AND HELPS WIN A DAMN GAME! WIN! YO! THEY WON THE GAME!
Yes, in the clutch. And it about consistency now. If he can do it with 2 minutes left, overcoming penalties, making 3rd and long conversions….he can do it in the rest of the game.
Its about the light coming on for him AND his receivers. And it will come very soon…when Schilens returns or sooner. This offense will explode.
I am with Al Davis on this one. Who the hell wants a sideways QB with a gimp arm. Those guys CAN’T come through in the clutch. Russell makes those laser strikes that will all the better when they happen more often.
So to all the haters! Flame on folks!
September 21st, 2009 at 6:42 pm
The amazing thing around here is that MR is the poster making the most sense of late!
MR, I agree, in concept with what you posted recently.
September 21st, 2009 at 6:42 pm
Russell has won 3 of his last 4.
Gave the Raiders the lead with 2:30 to go last week to be 4 of 4.
Plays for the worst organization in the game, with 2 Rookie starter’s at WR. He has trouble getting the ball to the WR’s, go figure.
September 21st, 2009 at 6:46 pm
That 3rd and 15 laser to Todd Watkins, might have saved his career in a small sense. Nowhere near as much pressure facing him this week being 1-1, rather than 0-2.
The game might not always be dangling in front of him at the end of games if he doesn’t step up his mid-game performances. A couple of awful 3rd quarters this year from him. Followed by pretty good 4th’s. We might as well take a deep breath and roll with it, the big guy is our QB for years to come.
September 21st, 2009 at 6:46 pm
Grabkowski and Fry should be and hopefully are watching extra film and working there butts off to be ready and to give Cable an option. The best thing about Russel’s game Sunday was his getting it together and leading that winning drive, the worst thing was his play up until then, but the most dismaying thing was his attitude that he could feel so secure as to play that badly and not have any concerns for his job. Even if Cable were to pull him out for a series or two and tell him that there are certain things he wants him to watch and learn about the defense, it might push him, especially if his replacement did something positive in his stead.
September 21st, 2009 at 6:46 pm
Raiderkoolaid,
You are suffering from an overdose of Kool-Aid. The Raiders, and their fans, have a penchant for putting hope in the washed up.
Charlie Frye got traded the day after starting a game. Couldn’t win a backup spot, even 3rd string, in Seattle with all their problems. Gratkowski bounces from Tampa to Cleveland and was never asked back.
Those guys should watch film and be ready in case of injury.
Russell is going to play through this and get better.
Thank goodness that we FINALLY have a defense that can win games and/or keep it close.
Right now its about Russell plowing through this thing. And I will stick with that decision all the way!
September 21st, 2009 at 6:47 pm
Bush and McFadden should be used in conjunction with each other similar to the way Wheatly and Garner were used, except that Bush is better that Wheatly, and McFadden should be better than Garner.
September 21st, 2009 at 6:49 pm
I am not saying that Grabkowski or Fry are the answer, just that Russel shouldn’t feel so secure when he is playing as badly as yesterday. I am not even suggesting taking the starting job away, just shaking him up a little by giving someone else a series or two.
September 21st, 2009 at 6:53 pm
I am a new Raiders fan by default because I am a huge Darren McFadden fan down here in Little Rock, AR, which also means I’m a diehard Razorback fan. I’ve been reading your blogs throughout training camp up till now, and many of you have already given up on DMAC.
Based on what I’ve seen, I can understand why if you were expecting the second-coming of AP. Doing my best to remove my bias and be objective, I can see where some of his bad habits have slowed his progress as a playmaker: not reading pursuit/allowing blockers to create lanes, not making timely jukes to beat a single defender, not having the best balance and appearing to go down on minimal contact. These are areas that he can work on, but honestly, he runs hard and showed that in the first half against Diego. Problem is, JR is TERRIBLE, and teams are stacking up to stop the run and daring JR to beat them.
Also, DMAC is a feature back, which used to mean getting fed early and often. Too many games I’ve seen he rarely gets two consectuive touches, a lot of that has to do with 3-and-outs becuae of JR’s inability to keep a positive flow to the offense and pick up first downs through the air. Still, if the Raiders could get DMAC 23-28 touches per game (15-18 carries, 4-5 receptions, and 4-5 WildRaider direct snap plays with Bush and/or Fargas in the backfield), then you would get 150 yards of total offense out of DMAC plus a 1.5 TD average per game. I promise you, he has to work thru some 1- and 2-yard gains and continue to get the ball, because he will pop a big one at least once, and many times twice a game. He did this week in and week out against SEC defenses loaded with NFL-ready talent, which is the 2nd-best thing to the NFL. And the Hogs were one-dimensional, so defense were stacked to stop the run.
I know the NFL game is on a much higher level with grown men who are the best of the best, and that being prepared mentally and being able to take hard licks is a big part of it, but I just think DMAC’s talents are excpetional and can be bigtime if used properly. Some of you think Bush is the answer, and yes, he is a solid back. Fargas is tough and pruns hard, but he is a smallish pounder who can not produce points. On a pass-poor team, a feature RB ahs got to be able to get into that end zone. DMAC is the man for that job, he just needs the ball early and often.
September 21st, 2009 at 6:54 pm
860,
I thought the CT were doing good a few years ago? All of them, here in Vegas where your at and all over, are leveraged up to their eyeballs. It’s all about getting people in the door, without comped booze and sports wagering, less people go.
Isn’t Delaware getting the rights to bet sports parlays? Calling it the “sports lottery” I believe, like what they kind of have in Canada.
September 21st, 2009 at 6:55 pm
I guess if we had veteran WR’s instead of rookies it would be different when JaMeatball sails one over their head or better yet when Murphy has his guy beat in the end zone and Russell throws it over his right shoulder when it should have been over his left shoulder away from the Db….vets would make the difference!
Solid KK! I guess if I only had half a brain I could follow you..
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Oakglenn Says:
June 8th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
Anyone with half a brain can see that Jamarcus Russell is a bonafide franchise Q.
September 21st, 2009 at 6:57 pm
Vegas, did you have a lot to do the the casino’s here in CT? One is in bad shape, but they should be.
September 21st, 2009 at 6:57 pm
Raider fans or better said “koolaid drinking JaMEatball supporters” are now counting the last 2 wins of 2008 to mention a 4-4 record in 2009!
I dont know what could be more pathetic or far reaching than that….sad!
September 21st, 2009 at 6:58 pm
VegasRaider,
That’s why young QBs can thrive with a good defense that can get itself off the field without making a bunch of excuses about being tired.
If we had that ragtag B.S of a defense the last few years, then your doomsday scenerio would have been realized.
Also, the Raiders are struggling a bit running the football so that is putting pressure on the pass game.
He’ll get it right. Clearly the performance has been bad, but the results have been good and the team is gaining confidence.
They could be 2-1 by this time next week!
And all the haters, many people I respected here, just toss around crude names and hope for Bruce Gradkowski or Jeff Garcia
If anyone is hoping for that….you have no clue on how to develop a team for the long-term….you know the long-term….our failure to do that 6 yrs ago put this team in this mess now.
Keep pushing through this. 1-1 after two gms and a shot at 1st place.
September 21st, 2009 at 7:00 pm
raiderkoolaid Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 6:49 pm
I am not saying that Grabkowski or Fry are the answer, just that Russel shouldn’t feel so secure when he is playing as badly as yesterday. I am not even suggesting taking the starting job away, just shaking him up a little by giving someone else a series or two.
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Do you think Russell feels “good” about completing 30% of his passes? Pressue?!? My guess is he’s under it everyday now. The team as a whole is actually competitive.
He doesn’t need to sit on the bench and watch Gradkowski complete a 3 yrd dump off on 3rd and 10
September 21st, 2009 at 7:02 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 6:42 pm
Russell has won 3 of his last 4.
Gave the Raiders the lead with 2:30 to go last week to be 4 of 4.
Plays for the worst organization in the game, with 2 Rookie starter’s at WR. He has trouble getting the ball to the WR’s, go figure.
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Exactly KoolKell. And no one is saying Russell doesn’t have to improve big time.
A lot of these guys want to go back to the 90’s and keep looking for the quick fix. Ignoring the very real issues that have hurt the QBs development. Show me ONE other young QB with any success dealing with the B.S that’s been going on in here.
And Kell, 4-4. When’s the last time we could say something like that!
September 21st, 2009 at 7:03 pm
At this point, SnB, it’s about desire. I think everyone knows he has the talent. Did he wake up 30 minutes before the game, or what?
The same standard you hold DHB to, should apply to Russell and every other Raider. I don’t think we should cut the guy, but to just hand the whole thing over to him when he doesn’t seem to want it is crazy.
Guys need to get it done on the field regardless of who they are. Fargas, Warren, Green are on the list, and Jamarcus, based on Sunday’s game, is certainly is there to. The same way Huff worked his way off the list, Jamarcus needs to do the same.
September 21st, 2009 at 7:06 pm
SnB,
For Russell to come out with that effort after all the criticism he took from Monday night’s game was discouraging. He played a decent game Monday night but absolutely stunk up the joint on Monday. You would think that he would have went to work just like the defense did and improved like the defense did. Like DHB and Murphy did. But Jamarcus went the other way, and in a big way. It’s really like he wasn’t mentally into the game until the last 2 minutes.
September 21st, 2009 at 7:06 pm
With that said, this team is head and shoulders better than it was last year. This team can win with Jamarcus Russell at QB. Anyone talking that shyt about we shouldn’t have traded for Seymour should be banned. Can you imagine this team without Seymour? With those same run defense issues? 0-16!
If the defense and special teams play like they did this weekend, and we don’t turn the ball over, we will win a lot of games.
September 21st, 2009 at 7:07 pm
SnB,
I would say that you and I have been about the same on the whole Jamarcus era. We accept the reality of it, he is inaccurate, always will be at times, and we’ll just say he probably isn’t going to be a QB coach when he retires.
However, we have clung to the hope of him “getting it”, whatever that means. He has always carried himself, ON THE FIELD, as if he deserves to be there, and certainly competes. His 4th quarter drives have come with the last bullet in the chamber, but he seems pretty calm and cool while doing it.
I was at the Hilton, they got every game on and hudreds of people are there. Most weren’t paying much attention to the Raiders-Chiefs game, but whenever Jamarcus threw another incompletion, you would hear smattering of laughter, a little heckling. I mean, NO ONE saw that coming yesterday, I don’t think the biggest of kool-aid drinkers would say they expected a drive like that. With what he is doing (somehow winning 3 of 4, and leading 2 and almost 3 last minute 4th Q comebacks), we should start expecting it a little more.
Just win Baby!!!
September 21st, 2009 at 7:11 pm
Jhill we need to worry about how the poor meathead feels, you know he got what 30 mil signing bonus! We need to say the poor fat bastad is playing with rookie WR’s. We need to give him another 2 years because he & his agent held out in 2007. We need to make excuses for this dumb country bumpkin even though he cant execute a screen pass!
Just stick your head in your a$s like they are Jhill, you’ll be ok!
September 21st, 2009 at 7:13 pm
Vegas, they are over extended here, promised the people that don’t work, just collect a check, that before they pay their bills, the tribe gets their stippend. There is more Indian bling here than LA, more than JR! Believe it! And none of the work!
September 21st, 2009 at 7:13 pm
JHill,
I am starting to sound like Priesttj. How do you know he doesn’t “want it”?
Look, this is the QB we are talking about here. Failure to develop a long-term solution here is the reason why the Raiders have been one of the more middling franchise the last 20+yrs.
I am confident that Russell feels under the gun. He’s just not going to tell you that. DHB is feeling the pressure, best believe Kelly and Warren know they gotta perform, and Morrison too.
This team and the QB are overcoming a lot. We all know what those things are.
But its absolutely devoid of any logic to bench a young QB that played well at the end of last yr and delivered game winning drives in the last two.
The kind of rhetoric I’ve been reading of late, AFTER A WIN, should be saved for week 12 and a 3-9 record or something,
Not now.
A lot of smart people in here have lost their faculties!
September 21st, 2009 at 7:14 pm
is it me or did anybody see super mario completely shut down tamba hali? Damnn he’s good! next he matches up against elvis dumervil, dude had a great game, had 4 SACKs against the browns. it don’t matter though cuz super mario finna shut him down!! yadddaameeaan!!
September 21st, 2009 at 7:17 pm
Mistabrown,
I still don’t understand why a Cleveland Browns fan would get so involved with an AFC West team?
You do this with all the teams or just the Raiders?
Or is this fun for you? If so, I kinda feel sorry for you.
How Quinn doing man? He’s going on this so-called pivotal year 3. Perhaps they should play Anderson. He’s got more chemistry with Edwards and company anyway.
September 21st, 2009 at 7:17 pm
LOL,
Ok Vegas! #2 thanks you. Hopefully you won’t have to come up with one next week.
I wonder if he was at the facility today?
September 21st, 2009 at 7:20 pm
Mistabrown,
So I take it you would like to see the Raiders win. Seeing how you grace us with all of this detailed “advice” everyday.
Are the Raiders your 2nd favorite team or something?
September 21st, 2009 at 7:21 pm
Mario Henderson and Michael Huff !!! Nice job Al. And let’s not forget about Chris Morris.
Shaugnessy and Branch are next to shine!
I bet Rich Gannon would do wonders for JRuss. We should bring him in as QB coach.
September 21st, 2009 at 7:21 pm
Keep in mind, it was our first time traveling out of the Pacific time zone this year. Early start for a young team.
How’s that for the weekly Jamarcus excuse!!
September 21st, 2009 at 7:23 pm
It’s only the second game, I have high hopes for the likes of this team, we are getting back to Raiders football, smash-mouth will get us through. But we really need some O-line help tomorrow, Al!
September 21st, 2009 at 7:24 pm
Oh dam I forgot about the time zone!!!!
No wonder those screen passes look like pop warner Qb status.
September 21st, 2009 at 7:25 pm
All I know is that some of these second year QB’s and first year QB like Sanchez look better than J Rusell.
Its alarming to not see him complete even the most simple passes.
How many 3 and outs can a regular NFL tolerate…
Its unheard of for a team to be so pathetic on offense, not being able to get a first down even…
This offense los much better that the bead and breakfast of the Shell era, but its failure to deliver with so promising playmakers is pathetic….
September 21st, 2009 at 7:27 pm
vegas raider Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 7:21 pm
Keep in mind, it was our first time traveling out of the Pacific time zone this year. Early start for a young team.
How’s that for the weekly Jamarcus excuse!!
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After 6yrs of losing…..I am just about winning right now. And for two weeks in a row, the QB showed some flashes at the right time to help this team win.
All those games where guys like McCown, Walter, Brooks, Collins, Tui, Culpepper…and every other retread QB just couldn’t get it done.
Just win baby! and thats what they did.
Next week is a brand new week. Brand new opponent and the score is 0-0. Plus its a big game.
Yet you guys want to lament about the QB all day. I am genuinely excited about Raider football right now. 1st time in a long time. No off field drama, good defense and young players on the roster that actually have a future…
September 21st, 2009 at 7:27 pm
Now I see some of you laying off DHB …figures …some here come into things with their heads bent because your guy wasn’t drafted so anything DHB does wrong is highlighted.
Well DHB caught everything in his vicinity vs KC. The two that didn’t count could have been TDs. The one that did was an 18 yarder.
September 21st, 2009 at 7:29 pm
Why dont you blind JaMeatball supporters at least give Marshall and his Def some props I mean how many 3 & outs did Russell drop on them ?
All you wanna do is talk about 1 pass on the final drive or rookie WR’s.
Rob Ryan was clearly a tire around the neck.
September 21st, 2009 at 7:30 pm
Raider will beat the Broncos. Tie for 1st place in the AFC West going to Houston.
SD has a really good chance of being a below 500 team.
The rest of the West sucks.
September 21st, 2009 at 7:30 pm
Mistabrown Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 7:24 pm
Oh dam I forgot about the time zone!!!!
No wonder those screen passes look like pop warner Qb status.
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Bro, why do you care. So if the Raiders go 1-15, why do you care?
I am amazed by non-Raider fans spending their entire time on a Raider board. Its really interesting.
I could give a doggone what the Browns or anyone else does. I couldn’t name the back up safety on Cleveland and I could care less.
Yet you seem to be well versed on all things RAiders. Spending your time arguing and responding to Raider fans.
You even watched the Raider game and spent your time here. Did you even watch the Cleveland debacle.
Flame on bro!
September 21st, 2009 at 7:31 pm
UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 4:35 pm
YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO HUFF ?????????
HIS NAME IS MIKE MITCHELL.
MAYBE JAMARCUSS NEEDS SOMEONE TO PEAK OVER THE SHOULDER AT .
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I’m getin old and my memory may be fading but I do believe that Rusell got hurt late in his junior year and Matt Mauck filled in nicely because he could also scramble better. He moved the chains and the Offense didn’t miss a beat. That also helped Russell’s injury heal alot quicker in time for that Notre Dame blowout. So yeah he needs a threat to his job instead of Cable telling the press “Pulling JaMarcus is not an option.”
September 21st, 2009 at 7:31 pm
jhill Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 7:17 pm
LOL,
I wonder if he was at the facility today?
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Don’t even think about it, the answer will probably make you mad. I bet Ellis, Nmamdi and Morrison were though.
Speaking of Morrison, again I got no audio for the game so a little vague to what’s going on, I really didn’t think he played that great. Than I saw he had 13 tackles in the paper this morning. 13 Tackles!!! Never would have believed it.
September 21st, 2009 at 7:34 pm
JT,
Sanchez, Flacco, Ryan and even Trent Edwards were put on teams that had playmakers to start.
Name me one QB in the NFL in recent history that started the season with two rookie WRs starting?
One QB?
You guys treat Chaz Schilens as if he’s just another player. Sanchez has that Jericho guy, Flacco has Mason, Ryan has White, Brady has Moss/Welker/Galloway, Manning has Wayne, and Edwards has Evans and T.O.
Russell has Murphy and DHB.
Give these guys some time to get adjusted and be happy that we are winning despite these early problems.
September 21st, 2009 at 7:38 pm
I wonder if the other starting QB’s around the league, aside from those playing the Monday night game were at their respective facilities today studying for their upcoming games.
September 21st, 2009 at 7:38 pm
Yeah JT, because it matters if the WR is a rookie when the bail sails over their head by 8 yards….or when a screen pass to a RB looks like a pop warner scrimmage it REALLLLLY matters how many years that WR has been in the league!
lmao
September 21st, 2009 at 7:39 pm
Sir Dennis Eeatin-Hog Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 6:53 pm
I am a new Raiders fan by default because I am a huge Darren McFadden fan down here in Little Rock, AR, which also means I’m a diehard Razorback fan. I’ve been reading your blogs throughout training camp up till now, and many of you have already given up on DMAC.
Based on what I’ve seen, I can understand why if you were expecting the second-coming of AP. Doing my best to remove my bias and be objective, I can see where some of his bad habits have slowed his progress as a playmaker: not reading pursuit/allowing blockers to create lanes, not making timely jukes to beat a single defender, not having the best balance and appearing to go down on minimal contact. These are areas that he can work on, but honestly, he runs hard and showed that in the first half against Diego. Problem is, JR is TERRIBLE, and teams are stacking up to stop the run and daring JR to beat them.
Also, DMAC is a feature back, which used to mean getting fed early and often. Too many games I’ve seen he rarely gets two consectuive touches, a lot of that has to do with 3-and-outs becuae of JR’s inability to keep a positive flow to the offense and pick up first downs through the air. Still, if the Raiders could get DMAC 23-28 touches per game (15-18 carries, 4-5 receptions, and 4-5 WildRaider direct snap plays with Bush and/or Fargas in the backfield), then you would get 150 yards of total offense out of DMAC plus a 1.5 TD average per game. I promise you, he has to work thru some 1- and 2-yard gains and continue to get the ball, because he will pop a big one at least once, and many times twice a game. He did this week in and week out against SEC defenses loaded with NFL-ready talent, which is the 2nd-best thing to the NFL. And the Hogs were one-dimensional, so defense were stacked to stop the run.
I know the NFL game is on a much higher level with grown men who are the best of the best, and that being prepared mentally and being able to take hard licks is a big part of it, but I just think DMAC’s talents are excpetional and can be bigtime if used properly. Some of you think Bush is the answer, and yes, he is a solid back. Fargas is tough and pruns hard, but he is a smallish pounder who can not produce points. On a pass-poor team, a feature RB ahs got to be able to get into that end zone. DMAC is the man for that job, he just needs the ball early and often.
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Great post dude. This is just a detailed post of what I mentioned yesterday. Cable needs to spend one day with Houston Nutt who is now at Ole Miss.
September 21st, 2009 at 7:41 pm
I really do think that by next year or the year after DHB, Murphy, and Schilens will be one of the leagues top WR groups. I just hope Russel has turned out to be the right trigger man by then.
I am posting too quickly, so I have to slow down. Maybe if I try typing with one finger. I guess I must be fast because my last post I posted two minutes from now. (In the future.)
September 21st, 2009 at 7:41 pm
Now we all know Jerry wasnt bullsh!tting when he reported during 7 on 7 no contact drills JaMeatball would go 2-5!
Its all painfully obvious now how that happens!
September 21st, 2009 at 7:42 pm
You heard it from me first; Jmarc will cease to be an NFL player within a year and a half.
September 21st, 2009 at 7:42 pm
Mistabrown Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 7:38 pm
Yeah JT, because it matters if the WR is a rookie when the bail sails over their head by 8 yards….or when a screen pass to a RB looks like a pop warner scrimmage it REALLLLLY matters how many years that WR has been in the league!
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Again I ask why you care?
Here’s how this deal responds…I am going to go ahead and predict right now that Russell plays Denver better than Mr. Quinn.
Brady Quinn: 18/31 161yds 0TDs 1 INT and his team puts up a whopping 6 pts on the Denver Broncos.
Yet you seem more concerned with a QB starting for a team you don’t even care for.
Bro…LMAO!
September 21st, 2009 at 7:43 pm
Mistabrown Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 7:41 pm
Now we all know Jerry wasnt bullsh!tting when he reported during 7 on 7 no contact drills JaMeatball would go 2-5!
Its all painfully obvious now how that happens!
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You obviously know so much about the Raiders that you are on 1st name basis with a local beat reporter.
Aren’t the Browns practicing….Probably getting smart on those run fits eh?
September 21st, 2009 at 7:44 pm
most of us are mad at Jabustus but I notice something…
late last year, he started throwing balls to Higgins and Chilenz even when they were covered. He either threw behind them or onto a very tight corner that only the receiver can make that catch. So far I have yet to see him do that. I think right now jabustus is having a huge lack of confidence and it is affecting his game.
The good news is he is doing a very good jo of protecting the football. The only bad throw so far is the first int in the SD game. Unlike Romo or Cassell, he has done a good job of protecting the ball.
I expect a rough ride during the first 8 games but the 2nd half should be alot better.
September 21st, 2009 at 7:45 pm
raiderkoolaid Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 7:38 pm
I wonder if the other starting QB’s around the league, aside from those playing the Monday night game were at their respective facilities today studying for their upcoming games.
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I am quite sure that the entire offense was studying today. They have a big game this week for 1st place.
September 21st, 2009 at 7:46 pm
Last year was a different time, and a lot has changed. For example, the extra 55 lbs on Jmarc’s badonkadonk. His days as a QB is numbered, but thanks to big Al, he will be a rich and unemployed.
September 21st, 2009 at 7:47 pm
One positive thing I have to say about DMAC is that he does seam to have a nose for the endzone.
September 21st, 2009 at 7:48 pm
alisgod Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 7:44 pm
most of us are mad at Jabustus but I notice something…
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embarrassing. Guess the lot of you guys would rather be in Tennessee’s shoes…or perhaps the Cleveland Browns with their stellar QB play.
Look at Romo giving away the game last night….
Take a deep breath and relax guy.
They will get it figured out in time to have a season we will all be pleased with
September 21st, 2009 at 7:48 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 6:40 pm
I am with JaMarcus Russell all the way! 30% completion and all! You guys in here are pathetic. The clever names you use and all that….b.s…this kid is struggling, but he fights through, doesn’t get down on himself and makes plays in the clutch. AND HELPS WIN A DAMN GAME! WIN! YO! THEY WON THE GAME!
Richochet: BULLS**T. Raiders won in spite of the Blob. NOT ONE RAIDER PLAYER failed throughout the day one fifth as much as Russell did. Had they, they would have been benched.
Doesn’t get down on himself? why should he? HE ALREADY ADMITTED THAT NOT FOR ONE SECOND WAS HE WORRIED ABOUT CABLE PUTTING IN GRAB..that ‘I know I’m the guy’. He also is hoping there are enough fleas like you that will continue to support him because…well…you have no spine.
So far he’s batting 1000.
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Yes, in the clutch. And it about consistency now. If he can do it with 2 minutes left, overcoming penalties, making 3rd and long conversions….he can do it in the rest of the game.
Richochet: All evidence indicates otherwise. Here, chew on this, worm. In that last drive Russell threw a ball that SHOULD HAVE BEEN INTERCEPTED..then got 15 yds plus a first because of a bogus roughing call..and he made one pass. YOU stupidly equate one pass as “doing his job”. that’s why you’re so desperate to convince everyone you’re not an idiot.
It’s not working.
You’re spineless…AND an idiot.
Ouch.
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Its about the light coming on for him AND his receivers. And it will come very soon…when Schilens returns or sooner. This offense will explode.
Richochet: OH…GOT IT..the “light is going to come on”?? So, while he can’t throw a simple screen pass, or hit someone wide open across the middle..well..not anymore than 30% of the time..THE LIGHT IS GOING TO GO ON??
Wow.
Is that cool, or what?
Here..LET ME HELP YOU NOW.
SnB:; “Schilens and Russell aren’t doing very well because they aren’t in sync. The light will go on for both of them..soon…then WATCH OUT”
FOLLOWED BY:
SnB: It’s taken a few games to find a light bulb that fits. When we find one, Russell is going to do it..YOU KNOW WHY? BECAUSE HE DID IT ONCE..SO..THAT TELLS ME HE CAN DO IT FOR THE WHOOOOOLE GAME”
Yeah..because that’s just how it works in the NFL, lol..you dumbass.
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I am with Al Davis on this one. Who the hell wants a sideways QB with a gimp arm. Those guys CAN’T come through in the clutch. Russell makes those laser strikes that will all the better when they happen more often.
Richochet: LASER STRIKES ARE WHAT QB’S ARE TAUGHT NOT TO THROW, fool. You don’t follow football very much, do you? It’s not HOW HARD YOU THROW IT, it’s PLACEMENT. It’s TOUCH.
Going to be funny watching you crash and burn, along side Russell, after stating all of this stupid crap.
September 21st, 2009 at 7:49 pm
Where’s Ryan Leaf?? He can save us!!
September 21st, 2009 at 7:50 pm
Look, DMAC made plays on that last drive too.
He’s close to exploding out as well.
Again, I am deeply disappointed in the lot of you who have essentially given up on a team with a match up this week for 1st place.
September 21st, 2009 at 7:51 pm
JMarc will be selling insurance policies for a living within 3 years because Al will refuse to pay him because He hired a fraud.
September 21st, 2009 at 7:52 pm
SnB
There’s been an unusual amount of hate directed towards Russell, since he was drafted.
All the watermellon jokes, lazy, fat, code words.
Norco Bob, one of his unreasonable critics was kicked off the blog last week for anti-semetic remarks. (nobody else said a word about it either, except me). MistaBrown……a hateful person and bigot…..
Of course not all of his critics are personal ones. But I’ve never seen another draft choice subjected to this amount of hate.
Andrew Walter was adored in here. It is what it is.
September 21st, 2009 at 7:53 pm
THE ONLY BAD THROW SO FAR IS THE FIRST INT IN THE SD GAME?
Did you WATCH YESTERDAYS GAME?
There were 3 BALLS THAT THE DEFENDERS HAD IN THEIR HANDS THAT THEY DROPPED. Not marginal, but in their hands..horrible throws.
Guess they’re only horrible if the D holds on to it?
A good D would have smothered the Raiders yesterday. You played a team who sucks. But hey, that’s ok, because Russell made ONE throw..yeah..that will win against the good team, lol…right??
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alisgod Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 7:44 pm
most of us are mad at Jabustus but I notice something…
late last year, he started throwing balls to Higgins and Chilenz even when they were covered. He either threw behind them or onto a very tight corner that only the receiver can make that catch. So far I have yet to see him do that. I think right now jabustus is having a huge lack of confidence and it is affecting his game.
The good news is he is doing a very good jo of protecting the football. The only bad throw so far is the first int in the SD game. Unlike Romo or Cassell, he has done a good job of protecting the ball.
I expect a rough ride during the first 8 games but the 2nd half should be alot better.
September 21st, 2009 at 7:54 pm
AlisGod, did you DV-R the games? I guess not!
At least 5 balls went directly into the hands of the defense but they failed to make the play. So if you look at the stat sheet yes JR is taking care of the ball but if you actually watch the games, its unwatchable really!
Do you remember the last drive? Directly into the hands of Flowers I think it was when JR was going for Watkins. I think Flowers had 2 in his hands yesterday…yah hes doing great!
September 21st, 2009 at 7:55 pm
Al has gone from running one of the most valuable NFL teams to becoming the most worthless. That is because he overpays Bad draft picks. Do us a favor and sell your team to Ed Roski.
September 21st, 2009 at 7:56 pm
Mistabrown,
Brady Quinn’s Browns are 0-2.
I didn’t DVR the game though…Could care less.
Thought I’d let you know.
September 21st, 2009 at 7:56 pm
EXACTLY WHAT I’M TALKING ABOUT, SnB..You got schooled on your weak take and you diversion reply.
You’re all fluff…nothing more.
You’ll fold up like a cheap tent as the next couple of weeks progress.
Care to bet?
Oh..in case you missed it..YOU’LL BE POSTING LESS AND LESS AND LESS AS RUSSELL GETS WORSE AND WORSE AND WORSE..you’ll show when it’s safe..likely ONLY after a win, and will all but disappear after losses..or come in with some sniveling excuse.
Again..care to bet?
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SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 7:59 pm
Mistabrown Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 7:54 pm
AlisGod, did you DV-R the games? I guess not!
At least 5 balls went directly into the hands of the defense but they failed to make the play. So if you look at the stat sheet yes JR is taking care of the ball but if you actually watch the games, its unwatchable really!
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So if its so unwatchable, why did you elect to watch the Raider game while your Browns were getting worked over by the Broncos?
September 21st, 2009 at 7:58 pm
SNB,
dont get me wrong bro. I was at the Houston vs Raiders game in dec 06. We kept them -5 yards passing and still lost the game. I watched the torturous 5ints of Delhome and we still lost last year.
I take an ugly win over a moral victory any day. We’re all just analyzing Jabustus right now. he does have the goods as evident by the late 4th Q of the last 2 games. The question is how is Hackett goign to bring that out of him. Maybe they are over coaching him. Sometimes you get too caught up with the technicals that you lose your rythm.
September 21st, 2009 at 7:58 pm
Lets recap:
Dorsey had a screen pass thrown into him.
The other DT had one hit his hands (both screen plays)
Flowers had 2 hit his hands.
Week 1
Three passes directly to the defender!
Its a good thing he is taking care of the ball…I mean its a good thing the defense hasnt held on to his stray bullets!
September 21st, 2009 at 7:58 pm
I said before the season started I would give JaMeatloaf until week 8. I’ll stick to that but i’ll be there Sunday booing his fat empty headed as$!
September 21st, 2009 at 7:59 pm
ENOUGH, Russell is not getting it done, the only thing that has kept us in these games IS THE DEFENSE!!!!! We need a quarterback that won’t be afraid to get in someone’s face and pull a face mask or two! I want the old raiders, cheap shots, penalties and SUPER BOWLS WINS. GET HIM OUT… he will never lead this team anywhere. AL DAVIS needs to get his head out of his *SS and find us a QB that gives a D*MN.
September 21st, 2009 at 7:59 pm
Mistabrown Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 7:54 pm
AlisGod, did you DV-R the games? I guess not!
At least 5 balls went directly into the hands of the defense but they failed to make the play. So if you look at the stat sheet yes JR is taking care of the ball but if you actually watch the games, its unwatchable really!
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So if its so unwatchable, why did you elect to watch the Raider game while your Browns were getting worked over by the Broncos?
September 21st, 2009 at 8:00 pm
Did you guys hear what Urban Meyer said about the Vols? He said Kiffin did not even try to win the game. He said they were conservative and just wanted to keep the game close.
Now I believe he did that crap when he was our coach.
September 21st, 2009 at 8:02 pm
Mistabrown Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 7:58 pm
Lets recap:
Dorsey had a screen pass thrown into him.
The other DT had one hit his hands (both screen plays)
Flowers had 2 hit his hands.
Week 1
Three passes directly to the defender!
Its a good thing he is taking care of the ball…I mean its a good thing the defense hasnt held on to his stray bullets!
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Amazingly candid detail too.
How come Brady Quinn hasn’t won a game?
What’s wrong with the Browns run defense? LOL!!!!
September 21st, 2009 at 8:02 pm
alisgood hackett should tell
jamarcass needs to nutt up and quitting being such a wussy he needs to start slinging it no thinking i would rather have an interception everygame than 15 3 and outs.
like brett favre he threw interceptions alot of them and hes a first ballot hall of famer whenever he retires. he wasnt thinking he was heaving.
September 21st, 2009 at 8:04 pm
Bring back Jay Shroeder!!!!
September 21st, 2009 at 8:04 pm
Hell, Bring back Todd Marinovich
September 21st, 2009 at 8:05 pm
is ryan leaf available
September 21st, 2009 at 8:05 pm
Mistabrown,
But it didnt happen did it? coulda woulda shoulda. Every play there is almost a holding or a penalty or an int but until it happens it happens.
dont tell me Jabustus doesnt have the skills to get it done at this level because he has shown that he does have it. he did it just fine vs Houston and Tampa. The problem is why is he missing so badly at times but looked like no problem at all on the final drive. For a young qb, I think he has a very good int vs td ratios for his career so far.
September 21st, 2009 at 8:06 pm
Gannon, Hostetler; those guys were winners!!
September 21st, 2009 at 8:07 pm
AlisGod,
No it didnt happen I told you they dropped it but if we are talking about taking care of the ball he is failing miserably.
If you want to look past he has thrown the ball for 6 possible INT’s in 2 weeks on top of everything else thats your right! I choose to look at the big picture, sorry!
September 21st, 2009 at 8:08 pm
SnB
There’s been an unusual amount of hate directed towards Russell, since he was drafted.
All the watermellon jokes, lazy, fat, code words.
Norco Bob, one of his unreasonable critics was kicked off the blog last week for anti-semetic remarks. (nobody else said a word about it either, except me). MistaBrown……a hateful person and bigot…..
Of course not all of his critics are personal ones. But I’ve never seen another draft choice subjected to this amount of hate.
Yet, Andrew Walter was adored in here. It is what it is. Go figure.
September 21st, 2009 at 8:09 pm
Hell, even Rusty Hilger could move the chains.
September 21st, 2009 at 8:09 pm
lwshooter Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 7:59 pm
ENOUGH, Russell is not getting it done, the only thing that has kept us in these games IS THE DEFENSE!!!!! We need a quarterback that won’t be afraid to get in someone’s face and pull a face mask or two! I want the old raiders, cheap shots, penalties and SUPER BOWLS WINS. GET HIM OUT… he will never lead this team anywhere. AL DAVIS needs to get his head out of his *SS and find us a QB that gives a D*MN.
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I don’t know about all that rah, rah stuff. But you do bring up a dilemna. Its impossible to find a decent free agent QB. Playing the Garcia’s of the world is a complete waste of time. For example, the Lions wasted 2 yrs with Jon Kitna, instead of getting Stanton or the other kid out there.
Teams that cycle from retread to retread rarely win.
Arizona and Tennessee will be 5-11 next yr when their unprepared youngsters take the field.
Raiders just have to work through this thing.
I would rather watch Russell complete 5% of his passes then to watch Jeff Garcia gut out a 6-10 record.
Its about getting the team right for the long haul.
Schroeder, Evans, Hostetler, Wilson, George, Mirer, Gannon, Collins, Brooks, McCown, Culpepper – and for all of this the Raiders have 3 decent years oout of 20yrs….Give me a break!
September 21st, 2009 at 8:10 pm
I remember either Jerry or David White wrote that Hackett is an extremely detailed oriented teacher. He would quiz them on their footwork, thought process and all the details even when they are not in the huddle during camp.
Some of us are really good at handling stuff like that. I know I am not. I know that in my career if I had a boss like that I dont do well. Maybe Jabustus is better at just letting it loose rather being a detailed technically sound guy. I mean the guy threw off his backfoot during the 1st of against SD that STeve Young said he has never seen anyone can throw that hard going backward for a completion. We all know that throwing off your back foot is a big no no for most technically sound QB.
September 21st, 2009 at 8:10 pm
AlisGod,
Im not sure he has the skills you think he does. Making a nice throw 1 or 2 times a game doesnt translate to “great skills” not to me at least. When he cant hit a barn from the inside or execute a screen pass on a reg basis I tend not to get too excited about 1 pass down the middle to Watkins.
September 21st, 2009 at 8:12 pm
Ricochet,
Again, like Mistabrown and his abandonment of his beloved Browns, why would a 49er fan spend one second in here…let alone hours and days…commenting on a team he hates and a QB that he feels is hurting the very team he, again, professes to hate.
Now with Ricochet, you have a 49er fan that would rather sit here for a while than go celebrate with his fan base an outstanding 2-0 start.
Say what you will about the Raiders….few teams ignite the passions of friend and foe alike!
September 21st, 2009 at 8:12 pm
KoolKell post 132. Those comments and jokes you refer to are in very poor taste and I would never use them, although questioning his weight and conditioning is reasonable. I want nothing more than to see Russel become a great QB because he wares the Silver and Black. I could care less if he was green with pokadots.
September 21st, 2009 at 8:13 pm
chiliwakt Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 8:06 pm
Gannon, Hostetler; those guys were winners!!
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Were they? How many championships? Shoot, how many years were they able to suit up for the Silver and Black?
September 21st, 2009 at 8:15 pm
Raiders in first place in 140 hours.
But we will need so more creativity from the offense. Yesterday I kept thinking, where is the wildcat? Hell a reverse would have been a better option on some of these 3rd and 7’s that they kept tossing Russell into.
September 21st, 2009 at 8:17 pm
Is Andrew Walter in the league right now?
Perhaps the Browns should give him a call? Mistabrown knows so much about him from his time in the Raider forum!
September 21st, 2009 at 8:18 pm
Mistabrown Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 8:14 pm
Oh now Im a bigot lmao
You cant criticise Barbacks failed policies if you do your a bigot! You cant judge JaMeatloaf on his play on Sunday if you do your a Bigot!
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You refuse to answer any of my Cleveland Browns questions?
September 21st, 2009 at 8:18 pm
Mistabrown,
You should know your stuff before you mouth off in here. I really really hate it when idiots like you mouth in here without knowing your facts.
Here is football stats 101 for you.
Peyton Manning first 32 games 52 TD’s vs 43 ints (oh yeah he had marshal and edgerrin in first 2 years)
Elway first 26 games 25 td’s vs 29ints
Go ahead and look up Russell’s first 21 games…i’ll give you a chance to redeem yourself you jerk!!!
September 21st, 2009 at 8:19 pm
AlisGod, I dont give a rats a$$ about those other plaeyrs stats. Im not looking up Russells either…I couldnt care less!
Whatever your point is you are not going to tell me what to look up on the internet, sorry
September 21st, 2009 at 8:20 pm
KoolKell,
I am inclined to agree with you.
Romo lost the game for his team yesterday. Yet that is somehow better than a QB who made some plays to win his team the game.
September 21st, 2009 at 8:20 pm
this is why i know the league has something against us, i’m sick of it…
Raiders fans now have the right to be riled up
Posted by Mike Florio on September 21, 2009 10:47 PM ET
It figures that, after we spilled plenty of e-ink in defending the Week One decision to take away from the Oakland Raiders a second-quarter touchdown after receiver Louis Murphy, despite having possession and two feet down, lost the ball when hitting the ground, officials blew two similar calls in the next Sunday of action.
In both cases, the calls on the field were upheld via replay review, even though it appears to us that the touchdowns should have been wiped off the board, just like Murphy’s was.
First, Texans receiver Jacoby Jones made an end-zone catch against the Titans that, based on our understanding of the rule that took away the Murphy touchdown, shouldn’t have been a catch. (For the video, click here and forward to 1:55.)
The quickly developing play, which sort of reminds us of Butch Johnson’s arguable non-catch in Super Bowl XII, involved Jones making the catch, going to the ground, and losing possession once hitting the ground.
Second, Panthers tight end Dante Rosario made a catch against the Falcons while going to the ground. He reached the ball over the goal line while falling, and then he lost possession just as he hit the turf.
The referee ignored the plain terms of the rule that took away Murphy’s score, ruling instead that Rosario made the catch and then in a separate action reached the ball over the goal line.
But Rosario was going to the ground while he was catching the ball. So, under Rule 8, Section 1, Article 3, Item 1, Rosario was required to maintain possession after hitting the ground. And, as abundantly clear in the video, he didn’t.
So, yes, while Raiders fans were wrong to be upset last Monday night, they should be livid now.
September 21st, 2009 at 8:20 pm
SnB
…..And trolls say spiteful things just to get a reaction. MistaBrownStains whole thing is personal attacks, that’s how he get’s his rocks off.
The Raiders or Football is really besides the point for them
http://www.flayme.com/troll/
September 21st, 2009 at 8:21 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
Its about getting the team right for the long haul.
Schroeder, Evans, Hostetler, Wilson, George, Mirer, Gannon, Collins, Brooks, McCown, Culpepper – and for all of this the Raiders have 3 decent years oout of 20yrs….Give me a break!
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I’ll GUARANTEE YOU that YOU posted the exact same crap about the above qb’s that you are currently posting about Russell.
“Give Collins a chance”
“Brooks just needs an o line”
“George can throw it on a rope. When the light bulb goes on, he’ll light it up.”
You’re all about excuses, aren’t you?
So, to sum it up..you list all of those bad qb’s, Gannon the exception, and you now think the Raiders SHOULDN’T GIVE UP ON ANOTHER BAD QB????
How in the hell does that make any sense?
September 21st, 2009 at 8:22 pm
Maybe Hacket does have Russel thinking too much about being technically sound and that is taking away from what he does naturally well. I know as a baseball hitter I wasn’t great, but was pretty good. I had a funky swing and a couple of professional player tried to work with me on it. When I tried to do things their way I couldn’t hit the ball at all. When I went back to my funky off balance swing I could.
September 21st, 2009 at 8:23 pm
Stop using Peyton Manning’s TD to INT stats to justify Russell’s poor play.
Manning Year 1 – 71 QB rating 326 Comp 575 Attempts 56% Completions 3739 yards.
Russell has come NOWHERE CLOSE to those stats.
September 21st, 2009 at 8:23 pm
SnB,
My rule is if you can’t win the game then you better not be the guy that loses the game.
September 21st, 2009 at 8:23 pm
Is there any doubt in anybodies mind that Manning is going to drive the Colts down to a score?
I typed this at the beginning of the Colts drive, but I was posting too quickly and couldn’t post it. I envy the Colt fans. I can remember having Stabler for a QB and we always knew that he would get the job done.
September 21st, 2009 at 8:28 pm
Koolaid,
I’m telling you man. Something is not right with Jabustus. He wasnt like that at LSU so you know that something is not right. Maybe it’s the tainted water they drink at Alameda.
Nnamdi took 3 years to develop. Huff looks like the same. Gallery was so bad miserable but now he is respected by most Raiders fans. I think Gallery is a pretty close analogy to JR. We knew Gallery couldnt be that bad but he did look that bad in 2006.
September 21st, 2009 at 8:29 pm
alisgod
yeah definitely cause everyone i talk to any football fan say we were robbed but it does nothing cause we still got a loss on that game. why can’t they just let the team play and be fair
September 21st, 2009 at 8:32 pm
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/m/2009/09/21/raiders-fans-now-have-the-right-to-be-riled-up/ they screwed us but this is the last time I bring this up unless we lose the division by 1 game the chargers
September 21st, 2009 at 8:32 pm
Big Chill,
I was complaining about the same thing yesterday on here. I have decided to ignore Florio from here on ward. He knew we got robbed and he couldnt admit it then. In both cases of Tuck Rule and Murphy TD, it was a replay initiated by the booth. I know they were under the 2 minute rule so only the booth could initiate it. But man, that is just plain bs. I do believe the leauge may not be against us but the employees working for the league always look for a reason to shaft us due to their personal feelings.
September 21st, 2009 at 8:32 pm
Why do you guys respond to mistabrown and ricochet its dumb everytime u respond they will say some more stupid ish just don’t read their post or respond to them its taking me about 5 times to post this
September 21st, 2009 at 8:32 pm
Yep, another diversion reply.
See, SnB..you have no credibility because you skirt all issues, especially the ones YOU bring up.
Let me say it AGAIN, you’ll be all but gone..and I’ll be laughing.
As far as you stating ‘I’m a Niner fan’? What the hell are you talking about?
Where did I ever state I was a Niner fan?
I stated the Raiders blew it by signing Bey, and should have signed Crabtree. Everyone then ran the “you’re a Niner fan”..I laugh at them, as well as you.
Except yours is a “you have no spine” laugh.
Subtle difference.
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SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 8:12 pm
Ricochet,
Again, like Mistabrown and his abandonment of his beloved Browns, why would a 49er fan spend one second in here…let alone hours and days…commenting on a team he hates and a QB that he feels is hurting the very team he, again, professes to hate.
Now with Ricochet, you have a 49er fan that would rather sit here for a while than go celebrate with his fan base an outstanding 2-0 start.
Say what you will about the Raiders….few teams ignite the passions of friend and foe alike!
September 21st, 2009 at 8:33 pm
Miami and Pennington are a joke!
WTF are they doing?
September 21st, 2009 at 8:34 pm
I know none of you will read this…but for those interested in more than just clever nicknames.
12 of Russell’s 24 attempts were tagged as “deep”
3 of Quinn’s 31 attempts were tagged as “deep”
9 of Aaron Roger’s 39 attempts were tagged as “deep” with 3 of those attempts on the very last drive.
Oh, I wonder how Chad Pennington is going to do in the 2 minute drill. Backed up at their own 20yd line
Crunch time Chad….games on the line. At least Russell can get a ball down the field.
September 21st, 2009 at 8:34 pm
Raider 75,
I am not saying JR is going to be the same guy as Peyton. All I am saying is the only silver lining JR has given us is that he doesnt throw that many int’s as compared to the greats of the game.
September 21st, 2009 at 8:39 pm
Richochet Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 8:21 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
Its about getting the team right for the long haul.
Schroeder, Evans, Hostetler, Wilson, George, Mirer, Gannon, Collins, Brooks, McCown, Culpepper – and for all of this the Raiders have 3 decent years oout of 20yrs….Give me a break!
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I’ll GUARANTEE YOU that YOU posted the exact same crap about the above qb’s that you are currently posting about Russell.
“Give Collins a chance”
“Brooks just needs an o line”
“George can throw it on a rope. When the light bulb goes on, he’ll light it up.”
You’re all about excuses, aren’t you?
So, to sum it up..you list all of those bad qb’s, Gannon the exception, and you now think the Raiders SHOULDN’T GIVE UP ON ANOTHER BAD QB????
How in the hell does that make any sense?
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No. My point is that you HAVE to develop a QB that can last for 10+ yrs. I just gave you about 10 QBs in the last 18 yrs.
My point is that rarely do these veteran solutions amount to anything but a couple of yrs of below avg to decent QB play.
Gannon, like Warner, was the exception to the rule. And once that old guy had to hang it up…we had no answer and hence the long darkness.
September 21st, 2009 at 8:40 pm
Ah, Ted Ginn just dropped the ball in the end zone.
Geez, Pennington, you gotta throw it better.
September 21st, 2009 at 8:42 pm
LOL!
Are u serious?
Like I said, there are so many fans out there saying they have the worst QB in the league. They don’t even trust Pennington to TRY and win the game.
Why didn’t they just run the clock out? LMFAO!
September 21st, 2009 at 8:43 pm
16,
WTF was that!
OMG!
More Wildcat than actual QB play? Run the clock down with under 3 minutes to go and call a time out?
That was laughable! Bill Parcells put this together?
AWFUL!
September 21st, 2009 at 8:43 pm
I would rather have jruss suck all game but come through with a winning drive than have garcia pennington or some other old qb who can dink and dunk all game but can’t finish at the end because of their pop gun arm
September 21st, 2009 at 8:43 pm
Does anybody know where to write to the NFL to complain about that touchdown they took away from Murphy? I absolutely can’t understand that call after seeing that touchdown they let stand for The Texans yesterday.
September 21st, 2009 at 8:44 pm
See, those 2 minute drives are pretty hard to do. Even a supremely accurate QB like Pennington struggled with it. Yes, Russell has struggled….but he seems to have excelled at one of the harder things a QB has to do. Lead a team on a long drive to win a doggone game!
And he’s done that twice already.
And you folks want to toss that aside and start over.
September 21st, 2009 at 8:45 pm
16yearsold16yearfan Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 8:43 pm
I would rather have jruss suck all game but come through with a winning drive than have garcia pennington or some other old qb who can dink and dunk all game but can’t finish at the end because of their pop gun arm
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Preach young man….Preach!
September 21st, 2009 at 8:48 pm
Now even Peyton Manning stuggles with young players around him. So did Eli but they trusted them and that’s what Russell needs to do.
How in hell do you give up 27 point in less than 15 minutes? We only gave up 10 in almost 40 mins.
Russell is the youngest of most of the players around him except one and they’re all 3 years or younger. Pretty incredible when you think about it.
September 21st, 2009 at 8:48 pm
Matt Millen: “The Dolphins can’t make a big play. Zero”
September 21st, 2009 at 8:49 pm
so how that moral victory for the dolphins. They coulda woulda shoulda won it with Ted Ginn catching that ball BUT THEY DIDNT, They controlled the clock so much but they didnt win. All I know is just win baby!
September 21st, 2009 at 8:52 pm
Any idea on when Drew Breeze’s contract is up?
September 21st, 2009 at 8:52 pm
SnB,in his 7 wins 3 are come from behind 4th qrtr or overtime wins.
September 21st, 2009 at 8:52 pm
When JRussell was QB at LSU, everyone in the SEC knew that he was deficient betweent he ears, and honestly, he only played well his last season capped by an incredible Sugar Bowl where LSU’s super-strong, super-fast D made Quin look average, and conversely the Slow Irish made JRussell look great.
Aside from being inaccurate, he is toxic to the rythm of the offense. Watch him execute handoffs, or move in and around the pocket, or whatever, he “lolly-gags”. Seriously, there is no sense of urgency or crispness to anything he does, and a QB must be precise to sell fakes and outsmart defenders. Basically, the guy has a multi-million dollar cannon without the technological advances to hit a moving target.
He is a bust, because he is so bad at so many detail s of the position. The NFL is a QB league first and foremost, and JRussell just doesn’t have it to consistently lead a team. Now that I am a Raiders fan, I hope he proves me wrong!
September 21st, 2009 at 8:53 pm
guys ive been posting and reading posts since yesterdays win and we all r basically agreeing but with different views of whats reality our dfnse is pretty damn good our season lies on jruss and how he plays they arent going to bench russell AD will never allow it our run game will struggle as long as teams put 8 and 9 in the box our dfnse will give up yards and tire when the offense only stays on the field 20 minutes a game this is simply russells year to shine or fail he has to make plays and be nfl qb not a bum
September 21st, 2009 at 8:53 pm
I laugh now when I think of the guys in SD saying Breeze didn’t have the arm strength to be an NFL QB. Maybe one day he’d entertain the idea to play the Charges twice a year.
September 21st, 2009 at 8:54 pm
I thought Tiger was a Tampa fan. He used to show up at the tampa games on the sideline.
September 21st, 2009 at 8:54 pm
wow PFT.com puts up a strong argument about how bad we got screwed monday night with the louis murphy non-TD
There were two TD’s this week one for Jacoby Jones of the Texans and Dante Rosario for the Panthers where each caught the ball while going into the endzone and lost control after the ball broke the plain. Both were ruled TD’s
The league is out to get the Raiders I now believe it
September 21st, 2009 at 8:55 pm
He protecting the ball, no drops, 1 pick, and to clutch drives. We have developing WR and I good for atlest 4 falst start Green. The season is early, everyone is impatient for results now. Since I was a little kid, the Raiders never have one pretty.
We got are starter and that what we have to go with. This is the NFL, you just do not change everything.
September 21st, 2009 at 8:56 pm
So how did that all out blitzing work for Miami in the last 2 minutes?
That was AWFUL game planning by Sporano, I mean Parcells.
September 21st, 2009 at 8:57 pm
The deep pass will free up the run
September 21st, 2009 at 8:58 pm
priesttj Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 8:48 pm
Now even Peyton Manning stuggles with young players around him. So did Eli but they trusted them and that’s what Russell needs to do.
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He still has Reggie Wayne out there Priest. And Dallas Clark was a BEAST!
Russell and his squad are doing it on the fly. They will get it right. Just about getting that consistency and trying to get traction early in the game.
I posted the number of deep throws Russell attempted. 12 of his 24 attempts were tagged as deep.
Cable is trying to set up the offense so that teams will have to respect that deep pass. Is Russell the most accurate with it? No. But guess what, all he has to do is hit a couple of those and you got yourself 14 pts.
September 21st, 2009 at 8:59 pm
i thought tiger was a raider fan?
September 21st, 2009 at 9:03 pm
I’m sorry 6 wins 3 come from behind 4th qrtr victories.
September 21st, 2009 at 9:06 pm
JT52,
Here is the part I am having a tough time with. It was only a week ago that the league clarified this rule on national tv. Who’s gonna be telling me that the officials currently working on those 2 plays yesterday were not aware of that rule. That is absolute BS. I hope Al Davis do a presser tomorrow to stick it to the league.
September 21st, 2009 at 9:06 pm
For those of you who watched the Dolphin game. Compare that to what we saw last wk. Notice the commentary…
“McFadden….there’s a block by Henderson…a missed tackle by Brown and that’s a Raider touchdown a five yard run THEY’VE TAKEN THE LEAD!”
http://www.nfl.com/videos/oakland-raiders/09000d5d812c277e/WK-2-JaMarcus-Russell-highlights
September 21st, 2009 at 9:07 pm
Look at what a solid vet like Richard Seymour did for the defense!
I would love to trade for the equivalent on the offensive line, and have that pro bowler play C. Come in and set the tone for the whole offensive line. Kick the shyt outta Cornbread when he Fs up. Slap Carlisle … well actually Morris should replace Carlisle!
Regardless, Denver is going down in a ball of flames this weekend
September 21st, 2009 at 9:07 pm
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 8:18 pm
Mistabrown Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 8:14 pm
Oh now Im a bigot lmao
You cant criticise Barbacks failed policies if you do your a bigot! You cant judge JaMeatloaf on his play on Sunday if you do your a Bigot!
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You refuse to answer any of my Cleveland Browns questions?
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If he answered any of your questions S&B, he would have to say he loves the Browns. So, it’s better not to answer them. he is a troll. And notice the second he came in here, so did rack-o-shiit. Coincidence?? Hardly.
September 21st, 2009 at 9:08 pm
raiderkoolaid Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 8:43 pm
Does anybody know where to write to the NFL to complain about that touchdown they took away from Murphy? I absolutely can’t understand that call after seeing that touchdown they let stand for The Texans yesterday.
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Sure.
Write to:
I WHINE, THEREFORE I AM
22 Boo-dee-damn-hoo Ct.
RussellSucks, Illinois
September 21st, 2009 at 9:09 pm
# alisgod Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 9:13 pm
Can someone confirm that Mario Henderson has yet to give up a sack in his (short) career so far?
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he gave up at least one in the San Diego game last year if I remember correctly, but overall he has played fairly well. Not great, but fairly well.
September 21st, 2009 at 9:10 pm
To be honest Peyton really has lived a charmed life in the NFL. The same coaches an he he still has a All-Pro TE and a All-Pro WR he just has to struggle with th rest of the soph. types that Russell sees at every position. Could you imagine if Russell had Jerry Rice and Tim Brown and Todd Christenson? with Marcus Allen toting the rock?
September 21st, 2009 at 9:10 pm
Let me hammer home another point about DMAC, let’s use Sunday’s game as an example: In that dismal offensive performance, Cable saw to it that DMAC got consecutive touches only four times in the game — all in the 2nd half — and on two of those occasions DMAC led the Raiders to points. The first came early in the 2nd half, he had two consecutive carries for 9 yards, leading the way in a 7-play, 13-yard drive that ended in SeaBass’ 54-yard FG. Then, on the final drive, DMAC took a screen pass 9 yards to the 5-yard-line, setting up his 5-yard game-winning TD on the next play.
Now, those stats may seem insignificant and puny, but in a 13-10 game when you are outgained 4-to-1 and your QB proves once again he is JR-high, you’ve got to feed your best player. Last year, Oakland handed the ball to Fargas 18-22 times a game for 65-75 yards and basically no TDs (okay, he had 1), so what kind of trial-and-error are they affraid of getting into by giving an increased load to a home-run hitter like DMAC?
Instead of riding JR to the cellar again, the best thing they can do is figure out how to maximize DMAC with 23-28 touches a game. You have to score to win, and the Raiders won’t get there behind Fargas or Bush as the feature back. DMAC has 33 touches thru two games, and Bush has 23. Those #s need to be more like 44-12 in favor of DMAC.
September 21st, 2009 at 9:10 pm
ibcode3 Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 8:55 pm
He protecting the ball, no drops, 1 pick, and to clutch drives. We have developing WR and I good for atlest 4 falst start Green.
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Some of the GM’s here would rather have seen Russell yell at Green and berate him right there on the field.
Instead, Russell moved on to the next play. Probably told Green to relax and get it on this play or something.
I am tired of the rhetoric against this kid.
You guys are going to be embarrassed soon enough with your weak commentary on the kid.
September 21st, 2009 at 9:11 pm
OK SnB, I watched the video but I don’t get your point.
September 21st, 2009 at 9:13 pm
priesttj Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 9:10 pm
To be honest Peyton really has lived a charmed life in the NFL. The same coaches an he he still has a All-Pro TE and a All-Pro WR he just has to struggle with th rest of the soph. types that Russell sees at every position. Could you imagine if Russell had Jerry Rice and Tim Brown and Todd Christenson? with Marcus Allen toting the rock?
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Priesttj,
I think that those against Russell are set on seeing him hit the bench. Very short-sighted folks here today.
You just laid out some causes that have led to Manning’s success.
Russell is going trial by fire. He’ll get through it and be better off for it.
September 21st, 2009 at 9:13 pm
Can someone confirm that Mario Henderson has yet to give up a sack in his (short) career so far?
September 21st, 2009 at 9:15 pm
raiderkoolaid Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 9:11 pm
OK SnB, I watched the video but I don’t get your point.
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You didn’t see the touchdown? The completed passes downfield?
Pennington ended with an interception and the Dolphins are 0-2
September 21st, 2009 at 9:17 pm
If JR is a bit slow on the uptake – thats fine- as long as he compensates by working twice as hard….. the problem is it seems he is relying on instinct and athletic ability rather than intelligence or mastery of either his own teams gameplan and playbook- or a thorough study of the weekly opposing defense….Hes young rich, making an effort- but not nearly enough of one- THERE WAS NO EXCUSE FOR THIS WEEK-….either that or hes just drinking too much
September 21st, 2009 at 9:17 pm
[...] Raiders are adjusting to playing up to six weeks without guard Robert Gallery, who has a broken [...]
September 21st, 2009 at 9:17 pm
I firmly believe tht SnB, I saw this kid at LSU and he’s finishing games the same way. He just needs help and the same guy’s out there game in game out. So that he can get familiar with them.
That is exactly what Peyton was alluding to his supporting cast is all new. Now relate that same thing to Russell and he’s only in his 2nd year starting. It has an effect on you and Cable knows this. He knows that pulling Russell in that situation would only set him back. Those are the situations he needs to learn. As well as the team. It was HUGE to go out there and pull this game out……….just HUGE!!
September 21st, 2009 at 9:17 pm
alisgod
The Raiders always have questionable calls. Its the life of being the Raiders. We will never have a call go our way if the play is not flawless.
just recent memory
Tuck Rule
Vincent Jackson spinning the ball forward after the catch when he was untouched, clearly a fumble, rule forward pass!! WTF
I remember Plaxico spiking the ball forward his rookie season without being touched ruled a fumble!
Louis Murphy’s non-TD catch and now two players the next week get the same situation and ruled TD’s
just to name a few haha
and SnB I dont get it either
September 21st, 2009 at 9:19 pm
Boy! I just posted and it’s way up there as if I posted it 10 mins. ago.
September 21st, 2009 at 9:19 pm
# jhill Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 9:20 pm
How about that Gabril Wilson at S for the Dolphins?
Anyone still wonder why that guy is no longer here?
And D. Hall? Again?
Just think, we had both those guys in out secondary.
Oh, and that starting WR combo of Javon Walker, Ron Curry, with Lelie coming off the bench?
LOL!
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yeah Jhill, but Gruden is an All WORLD oh right, he got run out of Tampa and no one has hired him. Well, Norphus, is doing really well in, oh right, Norphus is about to get run. Look Bill Callahan took over a bad Nebraska team and oh yeah, he got run too. Well, the reason Jamarcus sux has nothing to do with the fact that he had Curry (cut), Lelie (cut) Drew Carter( injury release) and Jivin’ (hangin by thread) and he now has three rookies to throw to. It’s just that he sux.
September 21st, 2009 at 9:20 pm
How about that Gabril Wilson at S for the Dolphins?
Anyone still wonder why that guy is no longer here?
And D. Hall? Again?
Just think, we had both those guys in out secondary.
Oh, and that starting WR combo of Javon Walker, Ron Curry, with Lelie coming off the bench?
LOL!
September 21st, 2009 at 9:22 pm
# alisgod Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 9:22 pm
Oakglenn,
According to nfl.com, Hendo played in the KC and Buff game and started against NE, Hou, and Tampa. I dont remember him giving up any sacks last year and this year so far. I think he has been a very below the radar guy this year for us.
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I have playing in 10 games for us last year, and playing against SD but I could be wrong. I am doing this from memory.
September 21st, 2009 at 9:22 pm
Oakglenn,
According to nfl.com, Hendo played in the KC and Buff game and started against NE, Hou, and Tampa. I dont remember him giving up any sacks last year and this year so far. I think he has been a very below the radar guy this year for us.
September 21st, 2009 at 9:22 pm
I don’t want to give up on Russel already. I just have never seen an NFL QB miss open receivers by as much as he did yesterday, and I know that he has been better than that in the past. My suggestion to maybe give him a series or two off when he is struggling was to try to give him a chance to get his head together, and maybe make him feel that he better put in the work needed. Leading up to the draft I saw videos of him throwing on the run very accurately. Now he can be extremely inaccurate throwing with his feet set. Hopefully we will never see him as inaccurate again as he was yesterday.
September 21st, 2009 at 9:24 pm
Too many 3 and outs Sunday to get anyone into a flow SnB.
I totally agree with you, and I think that Cable was trying to do that. I actually think that they McFadden Bush distribution is looking kind of nice.
I sure wish Cable would go with 2 TEs instead of that 3rd WR. Where’s the rookie dynamic TE we all saw? AND that would help the running game.
September 21st, 2009 at 9:24 pm
JT52, you are so right about the Vincent Jackson fumble. I forgot all about that one. I also remembered that Donald Hollas was involved in anoterh incident where he was tryign to spike the ball to stop the clock but I believe they either gave him a penalty or ruled it a fumble for spiking it forward or something to that matter.
September 21st, 2009 at 9:26 pm
I would rather have jruss suck all game but come through with a winning drive than have garcia pennington or some other old qb who can dink and dunk all game with 70% cmplt but can’t finish at the end because of their pop gun arm
September 21st, 2009 at 9:26 pm
they should have a clause in rookie contracts requiring 2 hours a night of film study 5 days a week- either that or a pay scale
September 21st, 2009 at 9:27 pm
Richochet Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 8:32 pm
Yep, another diversion reply.
See, SnB..you have no credibility because you skirt all issues,
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Rack-ette you do know something about skirts. Hike your’s.
September 21st, 2009 at 9:28 pm
Just another thought while im drinking this cold MGD
Al Davis makes some strange picks, yes Al has final say in all picks we know. The coach does have his input and Al blames the Huff pick on Shell. Well Artie looks like that pick is starting to finally pay off now that Robo Ryan is gone.
Henderson was a Davis “reach” pick in the third I believe and he has been playing great for all the bashing kiffin did on him
Janikowski was a first round kicker! WTF but he basically won us that game against KC with the two long field goals averaging 50 yards.
Asomugha was an Al project converting him from college Safety to CB in a man-FS scheme.
but then this….
Fabian Washington traded up to get him the year we traded for Moss and he is now gone!
P-Puke and Napoleon Harris came out the same year both first rounders. Both gone
Brayton horrible pick!
All I can take from this is Al knows how to find gems and knows how to waste picks at the same time
I am happy we have seymour with our 2011 1st round pick. Reggie White dominated well into his 30’s and Seymour has that much potential. Playing in a 3-4 he was double teamed every play so now in a 4-3 like Reggie played during his career Seymour has that much promise.
Mike Mitchell was taken in the second because he was a hitter! Derrick Gibson was taken in the first cause he was a hitter. I think Mitchell has more promise!
One last thing…
DHB caught his first pass. A rocket from Russell. AND he caught it with his hands! shut up chris carter.
September 21st, 2009 at 9:30 pm
In spite of JRuss’ struggles to start the season, I feel we can win the division with this team. JRuss in not turning the ball over with those killer fumbles, and he is leading 4th qtr scoring drives. If Ellis and Seymour haven’t beat the shyt outta KFC by now, I trust that they will with another performance like that. I’m sure Seymour was sitting next to JR the whole plane ride home.
The Chargers are banged up bad. KC and Denver are pretty bad. 8 wins gets the division and we have the defense, running game, and special teams to get it done!
September 21st, 2009 at 9:30 pm
I know none of you will read this…but for those interested in more than just clever nicknames.
12 of Russell’s 24 attempts were tagged as “deep”
3 of Quinn’s 31 attempts were tagged as “deep”
9 of Aaron Roger’s 39 attempts were tagged as “deep” with 3 of those attempts on the very last drive
September 21st, 2009 at 9:32 pm
Good comparison SnB
I still dont get what u were talking about with the Dolphins game LOL
September 21st, 2009 at 9:40 pm
Too bad SD gets Miami on a short week next Sunday, but The Dolphins are 0-2 so I hope they go out there hungry.
September 21st, 2009 at 9:40 pm
Oh yeah shut up cris carter at this rate dhb will have 8 rec in you’re face ! I haven’t given up on Dmac hard to run well when the qb ain’t completing passes, and for priest j comment that he dosen’t see dmac better than fuggy bear one question on the game winning TD no way fargas scores no way.
September 21st, 2009 at 9:44 pm
jhill Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 9:30 pm
In spite of JRuss’ struggles to start the season, I feel we can win the division with this team. JRuss in not turning the ball over with those killer fumbles, and he is leading 4th qtr scoring drives. If Ellis and Seymour haven’t beat the shyt outta KFC by now, I trust that they will with another performance like that. I’m sure Seymour was sitting next to JR the whole plane ride home.
The Chargers are banged up bad. KC and Denver are pretty bad. 8 wins gets the division and we have the defense, running game, and special teams to get it done!
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JHill,
With a defense that keeps the game close, the Raiders are going to steal a couple of games too…just like last wk.
Defense giving the offense the time it needs to get itself healthy and right.
Russell and company do need to step it up big time.
Tell Tom Cable to dial down the deep passes (50% of all attempts), get Myers involved 2 TE sets and manage the the running backs better.
September 21st, 2009 at 9:45 pm
Yeah Oak,
All those guys were awful. Kind of goes to that thing about Al needing to go as a GM. Great owner! Willing to write the checks and get the players he thinks he needs to win. Problem is, someone else needs to be doing most of the thinking. Don’t let Al see the DHBs and Mike Mithcell’s. We need to lock Al in a room, and have him review a list of guys that GM bring him. The combine tape and stats should be edited. This years choices for Al should have been Maulauga, Curry, Mack, Smith, or Monroe. Who ever brought any other guy to Al to review or whoever didn’t make sure the directv reciever wasn’t working during the WR and DB portion of the combine needs to be shot!
September 21st, 2009 at 9:46 pm
Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaddddddddddddddddda
September 21st, 2009 at 9:48 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 9:13 pm
priesttj Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 9:10 pm
To be honest Peyton really has lived a charmed life in the NFL. The same coaches an he he still has a All-Pro TE and a All-Pro WR he just has to struggle with th rest of the soph. types that Russell sees at every position. Could you imagine if Russell had Jerry Rice and Tim Brown and Todd Christenson? with Marcus Allen toting the rock?
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Seriously … I can’t believe you said that. Did you see Manning change the play at the line because he knew what coverage the Fhins were in. He threw to a rookie on a blitz and got a score. Do you honestly think JaMarcus could do that. I think he tried in the MNF game and screw it up because he DID NOT KNOW the playbook and got sacked.
If JaMarcus played with Rice … Rice would not be a HOFer.
It kills me to see you guys called down DMAC and DHB and praise JR when infact DMAC and DHB would be stars if they had a QB.
September 21st, 2009 at 9:48 pm
Defense stepped it up the last game relatively….Huff finally stepped it up and seems to be maturing nicely. He doesn’t want to lose that safety spot without a fight.
The offense is becoming a little predictable…especially with the running plays. Cable also needs to call more reverses and WR screens for DHB and Walker against the Donkies and more quick outs and curls.
This next game against the Donks would also be a GREAT opportunity to implement the WILDCAT with heavy doses of DMC and Bush!
September 21st, 2009 at 9:49 pm
Jhill…………yes two tight ends would be nice. Cable must call a good game on sunday. No excuse for not going up early in the game. Make it tough on Orton and the entire denver offense by forcing the pass. The first drive of the game needs to be a touchdown. It is bad when Russell takes so long to get going. Running the rock and getting some easy passes for Russell cant help out but Russell needs to make completions
September 21st, 2009 at 9:50 pm
This blog has turned into a doctor’s office and has on the door a psycho analyst name plate.
I’ve never seen so many comments trying to get inside of Jamarcus head. What is he thinking? What is wrong? The receivers are rookies,and he’s pressing to hard.
Give me a break, comon it’s very plain and simple he stunk yesterday and played awful. No excuses will justify his play. The bottom line is a WIN and a big one in the AFC west.
I wonder what the comments were to be like in this blog, if Jamarcus had a night like ol Chad Pennington.
The Dolphins ran 81 plays, controlled the clock for 45 minutes and lost. I can see the comments now. The game was won with a bad performance by Jamarcus, the team and fans should enjoy the win. We have as the Raider Nation lost many games due to the defense or offense not able to make plays during the critical part in the game. Can’t you remember those losses.
September 21st, 2009 at 9:50 pm
16yearsold16yearfan Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 8:32 pm
Why do you guys respond to mistabrown and ricochet its dumb everytime u respond they will say some more stupid ish just don’t read their post or respond to them its taking me about 5 times to post this
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THAT’S BECAUSE YOU’RE AN IDIOT.
Oh..want to see why it’s taking you longer, peanut?
YOU REPOST YOUR SILLY LITTLE WHINES..You posted #231 earlier, where SnBWhiner said ‘oh goody, little kid, I like it when you agree with me. I’m sending you a lollipop”..so why post it again?
You think you’re going to get another lollipop?
OH..I GET IT..SnBRussellSacHanger propped you, so you feel like such a big boy, and want some more pats on the head?
Aren’t you just so precious? lol…
Ah, grasshopper..you have so much to learn.
September 21st, 2009 at 9:52 pm
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 9:44 pm
Russell and company do need to step it up big time.
Tell Tom Cable to dial down the deep passes (50% of all attempts), get Myers involved 2 TE sets and manage the the running backs better.
^^^^^^Agreed! More double TE sets with Myers and Stewart involved with Miller in the slot need to be implemented and more screens and WR screens need to be ran in this next game. More high percentage passing needs to happen.
I also want to see the WILDCAT implemented with the heavy doses of DMC and Bush to keep the Donkey defense off balance.
September 21st, 2009 at 9:52 pm
DK…………..yes the offense is very predictable but that is Russell’s fault. He must make completions to guys when they are open. WR screen for DHB will be quite helpful for Russell trying to get into the flow of things because he is having some difficulties doing that.
September 21st, 2009 at 9:54 pm
Tell Tom Cable to dial down the deep passes (50% of all attempts), get Myers involved 2 TE sets and manage the the running backs better.
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I kept saying Sunday, Ok what is Cable trying to prove? Is he really going to keep calling all these deep routes?
At the same time, JRuss was making some good AUDIBLES to those over the top throws when KC was blitzing. Too bad he couldn’t hit one or two of those!
September 21st, 2009 at 9:54 pm
# Richochet Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 9:50 pm
16yearsold16yearfan Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 8:32 pm
Why do you guys respond to mistabrown and ricochet its dumb everytime u respond they will say some more stupid ish just don’t read their post or respond to them its taking me about 5 times to post this
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THAT’S BECAUSE YOU’RE AN IDIOT.
Oh..want to see why it’s taking you longer, peanut?
YOU REPOST YOUR SILLY LITTLE WHINES..You posted #231 earlier, where SnBWhiner said ‘oh goody, little kid, I like it when you agree with me. I’m sending you a lollipop”..so why post it again?
You think you’re going to get another lollipop?
OH..I GET IT..SnBRussellSacHanger propped you, so you feel like such a big boy, and want some more pats on the head?
Aren’t you just so precious? lol…
Ah, grasshopper..you have so much to learn.
^^^^^^Yeah, you have problems! LOL
Ya Mutt!
September 21st, 2009 at 9:55 pm
Wildcat is cool and all but I want us to have the ability to run straight at people. Use the wildcat a little but we need to be in base offense and show ability to make first down after first down. The defense was on the field too damn much yesterday
September 21st, 2009 at 9:56 pm
Jerry,
Thanks for the fix. But please watch the accuracy.
“Huff has intercepted three passes in two games and had a breakup on the game’s final play.”
It was far from the final play. I think there was about a minute to go on that fourth down play.
Nice to see Huff is coming around & glad to see coach stuck with him.
September 21st, 2009 at 9:56 pm
# Brien the General 510 Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 9:52 pm
DK…………..yes the offense is very predictable but that is Russell’s fault. He must make completions to guys when they are open. WR screen for DHB will be quite helpful for Russell trying to get into the flow of things because he is having some difficulties doing that.
^^^^^^^^^
The thing is Cable needs to call plays that are high percentage and are designed to get Russell in a rhythm early in the game. Some of those touch throws that Cable called early are tough throws in the beginning of game…especially on the road and Russell also needs to step it up and improve his footwork. More bootlegs and rollouts need to be called. Get DHB the ball in the slot with quick throws like how Favre is using Harvin.
More two tight end sets need to be used with Miller, Myers and Stewart involved in the game against the Donks and Cable needs to get back to power football with Morris and Satele in there. I don’t want McQ starting ahead of Morris at LG.
Time to unleash DMC and Bush with the WILDCAT to help confuse the Donks defense and keep them off balance.
September 21st, 2009 at 9:57 pm
Jhill it isnt so much Cable. Really it is Al being stubborn and not admitting he was wrong with Russell being a great QB. They are forcing the issue and you can see it.
September 21st, 2009 at 9:58 pm
Brien the General 510 Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 9:49 pm
Jhill…………yes two tight ends would be nice. Cable must call a good game on sunday. No excuse for not going up early in the game. Make it tough on Orton and the entire denver offense by forcing the pass. The first drive of the game needs to be a touchdown. It is bad when Russell takes so long to get going. Running the rock and getting some easy passes for Russell cant help out but Russell needs to make completions
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Easy passes?
Oh..you mean like screens he can just lob?
Dumpoffs?
Uh..Raiders tried that against KC.
Um…I think at 3 for 13 they accepted the fact that even the easy ones aren’t easy for Russell.
HEY..I KNOW..have Russell hand off to McFadden, and have HIM throw the ball.
Yeah..that could work.
September 21st, 2009 at 10:01 pm
Richochet slants are much easier for him. Some shorter routes at times will work. The ball needs to get out quicker. We hardly are running plays where the WR goes underneath. I aint saying do that all game long but it will help to do that sometimes. The guy cant read defenses as of now to sit and wait for routes to develop
September 21st, 2009 at 10:02 pm
Wassup B,
Yeah, that WR screen would be nice to see. Although I was thinking to Murphy or Dmac. Line DMac up on the same side with DHB, who is a helluva blocker for the position. Then again, DMac has been laying so much wood, maybe it should go to DHB!
September 21st, 2009 at 10:03 pm
They should put a dark shaded glass, like Tomlinson’s, on Russell’s facemask. That way the opposition couldn’t see who he’s locked on and looking at. I’ve always thought that shaded glass favored the wearer because the defenders can’t see where you are looking.
As far as Gallery’s replacement goes, I vote for Barnes and leaving Morris at center. We really need to find someone to replace Green. Maybe one of those BIG HEAD cutouts would do. At least it wouldn’t false start every time when it counts.
September 21st, 2009 at 10:05 pm
Why don’t you read what other NFL writers/fans say about JaMarcus.
From rotoworld …
“4. When you play with JaMarcus Russell, o-fers will happen occasionally. That’s why Zach Miller is a top-12 tight end, not a top-five tight end.”
From PFT before the game …
“The Raiders will beat KC even without a QB”
Everyone is starting to notice … Sanchez 2-0 Stafford has the crappest team in the NFL has thrown TDs in both games he has started … Ryan and Flacco are 2-0 in their second season
JaMarcus is in his third year … let’s here the excuses.
September 21st, 2009 at 10:07 pm
Richochet what is your point of being on a raider blog? You hate the Raiders cuz you are a niner fan ok makes sense. You hate Al Davis because you owe him everything, ok life is harsh and somethings you ant accept it. What is your purpose really on this blog?
September 21st, 2009 at 10:09 pm
Jhill a reverse with DHB would be nice as well
September 21st, 2009 at 10:10 pm
I disagree with this can’t read defense business. Fugg what Steve the 49r guy said on MNF! JRuss is missing wide open guys, not throwing to the wrong receiver. Reading the play, identifying the screen, getting the pass knocked down.
Every QB you see looks at his first read until he’s forced to look elsewhere. You saw it all weekend, and tonight. Russell’s first read is 15 yds down the field. He come’s off that long read plenty of times, but just misses the receiver. Let’s not start making stuff up.
September 21st, 2009 at 10:13 pm
Some those screens they were running were just terribly executed screens. I mean the blocking for that fake handoff and screen to the other side that got batted down by Vrabel was terrible. Someone didn’t even block Vrabel.
Despite having a poor day, Russell did make the big throws when it counted in the end to win the game with a minute left.
September 21st, 2009 at 10:15 pm
12 of Russell’s 24 attempts were tagged deep (50% of attempts)
4 of Sanchez’ 22 attempts were tagged deep
5 Brady’s 47 attemps were tagged deep
September 21st, 2009 at 10:15 pm
If Ray Lewis was playing MLB for us, Sproles doesn’t win the MNF game for the Chargers.
If Gabril Wilson was still playing S for us, we lose the MNF game because Gates would have scored instead of Sproles.
September 21st, 2009 at 10:15 pm
Jhill, the mistake you’re making is that you are assuming that the coaches didn’t want DHB and I’m here to tell you, you are wrong. You are assuming that Kiffin didn’t want DMC.
Cable saw The OT’s in thedrat and the DT’s they went for DHB for a reason. He opens up the field or ZMiller Did you see how open Watkins was on tha play. The safety was nowhere to be found. Why? too much speed on the other side.
I don’t want to be too argumentative on this but I think I know this orgaization as well as any fan. And I know for a fat that the coaches pretty much get what the feel they need to win. Kiffin certainly did. And so is Cable now if you don’t like those picks tthen the entire coaching staff as well as MR Davis is accountable.
What he does is decide who he wants to pay and what he thinks they’re worth. I will admit that if he really wants a player he’s going to draft him. But you’re assuming way to much because you don’t know the man. He knows who’s out there in the draft they just get the film for him. Hiding a player from Mr Davis is a ticket out of that organization. The man is not nearly as stupid or senile as you might think.
The best way to work with Mr Davis is to make your case for the player you want and if you have a point he’ll listen. What you’re talking about would be someone who has no confidence in his argument.
September 21st, 2009 at 10:19 pm
# Brien the General 510 Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 9:55 pm
Wildcat is cool and all but I want us to have the ability to run straight at people. Use the wildcat a little but we need to be in base offense and show ability to make first down after first down. The defense was on the field too damn much yesterday
^^^^^^^Power football straight up the gut becomes to predictable. Cable and Tollner need to call plays that will confuse the Donkeys defense and keep them off balance. The Donks will study the Chef game and if Cable and Tollner call the same damn plays against the Donks that were called against KC, the offense will struggle again.
The next game we should see WILDCAT, short passing game with RB and WR screens, reverses, with two tight end sets with some power football and mix in curl routes, quick outs and then play action to go intermediate and deep.
September 21st, 2009 at 10:20 pm
#266
Kind of reminds me of the old “Bombs Away” #3 Daryl Lamonica days. I don’t know why all these long passes are being called. We should have a good ball control running game and yet nobody seems interested. If Cable want the long balls, make DMac a WR and we might get something done. I personally think RB is the wrong position for DMac. He goes dow far too easily and he would be much more effective with the ball in the open.
September 21st, 2009 at 10:20 pm
I’m not quite sure why we would be comparing a 12 year, MVP, future HOF QB to the 3rd youngest QB in the league. That argument makes NO sense from ANY angle.
September 21st, 2009 at 10:20 pm
# Brien the General 510 Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 10:07 pm
Richochet what is your point of being on a raider blog? You hate the Raiders cuz you are a niner fan ok makes sense. You hate Al Davis because you owe him everything, ok life is harsh and somethings you ant accept it. What is your purpose really on this blog?
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I can answer that Bri. His wife broke a date with him on Saturday nite and he hasn’t seen her since. He figures one of us has probably “seen” her. Actually, THAT, was a good bet.
September 21st, 2009 at 10:21 pm
Please none of this wildcat business. JMO, but I couldn’t disagree more. Denver runs a 3-4? Make them match up to the 2 TE set. That first play we ran on MNF was about as creative as we need to get. 2 WR on one side, move DMac out of the backfield, to the other side creating a 3 WR set. If we stop right there, do you see the match up problems for a team in the 3-4?
Going to the wildcat I fear will confuse us more than the opponent.
September 21st, 2009 at 10:21 pm
12 of Russell’s 24 attempts were tagged deep (50%)
5 of Ryan’s 27 attempts were tagged deep
3 of CUTLER’S 38 attempts were tagged deep
Good lord! Are you guys seeing a trend here or not?
September 21st, 2009 at 10:22 pm
Posting positions changed Now #266 refers to #268. Kind of a Deja Vu revisited.
September 21st, 2009 at 10:28 pm
Stabler was known for his accuracy,not a strong arm.
September 21st, 2009 at 10:28 pm
The Raider offense is designed to get quick strikes. I don’t know if Russell will ever be a 60% passer in this offense. Deep throws are lower % passes.
Half of Russell’s throws were tagged deep.
Just like back in the day. Stabler and Plunkett were not lauded for their accuracy. Its an attempt by Cable to loosen up the defense and run the ball.
They are struggling at it early. In preseason you saw more of the other sets.
Let’s see what happens against Denver. I am predicting a big day for the offense
September 21st, 2009 at 10:28 pm
I understand what you are saying Priest. And by the time the pick was called in, I’m sure everyone was on the same page. The DHB pick makes sense for what Al is trying to do. I’m actaully glad for the old hoot that he may actually be able to see his vision of offense and defense actaully come together. All the pieces are there. 4 man pressure, tough man to man, and a vertical offense. Let’s see if JRuss can pull it all together.
But if another GM were calling the shots, it’s pretty safe to say that we would have gone in a different direction at 7. Even if that simply meant trading down for DHB. Not being such a hard ass and wanting a future # one for moving down 5 spots. Simply taking a player or a 4th rd pick and moving on.
September 21st, 2009 at 10:31 pm
12 of Russell’s 24 attempts tagged deep (50%)
7 of Rothlisberger’s 35 attempts tagged deep
5 of Flacco’s 26 attempts tagged deep
5 of Brees’ 34 attempts tagged deep
September 21st, 2009 at 10:34 pm
Russell misses people. Even Solomon Wilcots talked about it yesterday
September 21st, 2009 at 10:34 pm
SnB, duely noted. Also did you see that check down to DMC in the final drive for 13 yards? I’m seeing another trend. There are certain screens he throws better than others.
The coacs need to really focus on the stuff Russell does well and call them more and run them as close to perfection as possible. You can tell there are plays that he feels wont work and he bails on them. Once he’s experienced enough and the team is ready to run certain packages. He’ll be able to audible out of some that.
September 21st, 2009 at 10:35 pm
Priesttj,
I don’t mean to be persistent. But the Raiders are clearly asking Russell to do something that tailors the way they want to play ball.
People looking for a 65% completion guy are not going to get it with that kind of play calling.
Now Russell may be trying to let fly instead of checking down…I don’t know.
All I am saying is give him and the young receivers time to get it right.
This is not a sideways offense like the Dolphins or Cleveland Browns play!
September 21st, 2009 at 10:36 pm
Jhill, you’re assuming again that they didn’t try to trade down. We don’t know what happened in that room. Any dimwit that thought that he could trade down and get an extra pick and still get his player would do it.
What makes you think he wouldn’t? do you really think he’s that stupid and the people around him are that stupid? Come on man!! this is the big leagues. Big Al’s been working that stuff when you were in diapers. Don’t be silly.
September 21st, 2009 at 10:37 pm
Brien the General 510 Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 10:34 pm
Russell misses people. Even Solomon Wilcots talked about it yesterday
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Work in progress Brien. It is what it is.
Next week is a brand new week and hopefully they can iron the problems on the passing game and running game. They are playing for 1st place. I won’t complain after a win. Not after these last 6yrs.
I think the playcalling needs some more flavor. Myers was the man in the San Fran preseaon game. I don’t think we’ve seen him once this year.
September 21st, 2009 at 10:39 pm
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September 21st, 2009 at 10:39 pm
Yeah but Denver game is important. I’ll be there for sure to see for myself if the tide has turned. The best thing for the Raiders is that Denver is 2-0. Denver is feeling high and mighty right now. I honestly dont see Kyle Orton having a great game against us. Denver will not run for 150 yards on the Raiders and dline is that damn good. Turnovers and penalties will be key again.
September 21st, 2009 at 10:41 pm
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 10:31 pm
12 of Russell’s 24 attempts tagged deep (50%)
7 of Rothlisberger’s 35 attempts tagged deep
5 of Flacco’s 26 attempts tagged deep
5 of Brees’ 34 attempts tagged deep
^^^^^^^Yep….like I said, in the next game against the Donks, Cable and Tollner need to tone down the freakin intermediate to deep ball plays and work on getting the TWO TE SETS going an and pounding the Donks, with some quick high percentage passes. Get DHB or Muprh or Walker the ball in WR screens. Give DHB the ball on short quick throw like what Favre has done with Harvin. Get the ball to DMC deep down the field at times….get the WILDCAT formation in and use DMC and Bush. DMC perfected the WILDCAT at Arkansas and it would be nice to the Raiders use it to keep the Donks defense off balance.
September 21st, 2009 at 10:44 pm
if you have a Qb who is better throwing 5 yd passes,that is what you do.if you have a QB who’s forte is throwing 20 yd outs,that is what you do.btw,what is considered”tagged deep”?JR will never be a dink and dunk QB,and that isn’t the off. we run.
September 21st, 2009 at 10:47 pm
we don’t need to change what we are doing on Off.we need to do what we are doing better.once(if) our QB starts completing the passes that he is throwing,which are wide open i might add,everything else will fall into place.
September 21st, 2009 at 10:47 pm
lefty12 Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 10:44 pm
if you have a Qb who is better throwing 5 yd passes,that is what you do.if you have a QB who’s forte is throwing 20 yd outs,that is what you do.btw,what is considered”tagged deep”?JR will never be a dink and dunk QB,and that isn’t the off. we run.
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That is true. But I haven’t seen a single QB come close to 50%….as for what is considered tagged deep, I don’t know….I took the numbers from the ESPN Play-by-Play detail.
And JR is not a dink and dunk. But last yr that’s what Kiffin tried to make him. Now they are trying to “let it rip” as Cable says.
This offense could be fun to watch if they can get it together.
September 21st, 2009 at 10:51 pm
You guys are a bunch of hair splitting sports geeks. The Raiders won. Go to f’n bed.
September 21st, 2009 at 10:51 pm
I’ve been saying all off season that it will take until midseason for this offense(passing game) to start to gel and now you know why. It’s going to take all season before we’re seeing what we all want to see. This is a very difficult transition and in the process and you’ll see great games ad bad games until it starts to gel. Then the consistency will manifest itself. But the process is not pretty. Too many young players………period
This is the NFL……period
September 21st, 2009 at 10:53 pm
# lefty12 Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 10:47 pm
we don’t need to change what we are doing on Off.we need to do what we are doing better.once(if) our QB starts completing the passes that he is throwing,which are wide open i might add,everything else will fall into place.
^^^^^^^Not making proper adjustments and not attacking a defensive teams weakness and calling predictable offensive plays each and every game is a one way to ticket to losses!
September 21st, 2009 at 10:53 pm
I think the large number of deep attemps is a direct result of not having Chaz Schilens on the field.
He was said to be catching a lot of those shorter balls and he has the size and strength to beat press and has speed that the opponent has to respect.
Murphy and DHB are not that type of receiver.
When Schilens gets back, I think the offense changes a little bit.
September 21st, 2009 at 10:54 pm
people say jr cant read defenses but his accuracy problems come from missing open recievers not throwing into double coverage all the time. people are 2 picky. u can see qbs in every game force throws and almost get intercepted. bottom line is jr is playing 2 slow right now. letting it rip isnt just throwing downfield but attacking your read when available. how else can he miss wide open throws and then come up big in the end?
September 21st, 2009 at 10:55 pm
Armond, that’s exactly what I’m saying. He needs to play faster, speed up his procession. But that only comes with reps and experience. Not to mention playing with the same players game in game out.
It’s a growing process that often times looks very awkward.
September 21st, 2009 at 10:57 pm
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 10:59 pm
armond Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 10:54 pm
people say jr cant read defenses but his accuracy problems come from missing open recievers not throwing into double coverage all the time. people are 2 picky. u can see qbs in every game force throws and almost get intercepted. bottom line is jr is playing 2 slow right now. letting it rip isnt just throwing downfield but attacking your read when available. how else can he miss wide open throws and then come up big in the end?
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I think they need to get traction early in the game.
The good news is that he has shown that he can do it. The 2 minute drill is the toughest because the defense is in a pure pass defense. But hey, at least he knocked that out.
I think better playcalling, Chaz Schilens and some film work can fix this.
I don’t know….I see it and I am sticking by the kid.
50% of your passes are deep and the team wasn’t behind….
^^^^^^^^^^
I want to see better offensive play calling in this next game….and Russell get in a rythem with high percentage throws and not throwing DEEP low percentage touch passes early. The running game needs to be better also.
That RB coach needs to coach up the RB’s to see the hole and hit hit hard….like how Rathman taught them last year. Lets see DMC do what he does best in some WILDCAT and in the slot. Lets see some WR screens to DHB and some TWO TE sets!
September 21st, 2009 at 10:58 pm
also he has to understand that he needs to play with more urgency. he doesnt move around fast enough in terms of his body language. i question how sure of himself is he when throwing the ball. his release point has to be off for him 2 sail these balls so high. the best thing for him is the ridicule he will endure to let him know he gotta step it up all the time. as the team gets better more attention good or bad goes to him.
September 21st, 2009 at 10:59 pm
armond Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 10:54 pm
people say jr cant read defenses but his accuracy problems come from missing open recievers not throwing into double coverage all the time. people are 2 picky. u can see qbs in every game force throws and almost get intercepted. bottom line is jr is playing 2 slow right now. letting it rip isnt just throwing downfield but attacking your read when available. how else can he miss wide open throws and then come up big in the end?
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I think they need to get traction early in the game.
The good news is that he has shown that he can do it. The 2 minute drill is the toughest because the defense is in a pure pass defense. But hey, at least he knocked that out.
I think better playcalling, Chaz Schilens and some film work can fix this.
I don’t know….I see it and I am sticking by the kid.
50% of your passes are deep and the team wasn’t behind….
September 21st, 2009 at 11:00 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 10:51 pm
You guys are a bunch of hair splitting sports geeks. The Raiders won. Go to f’n bed.
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Good call. They did win the dang game didn’t they!
September 21st, 2009 at 11:01 pm
Well basically Priest, because Cable and Al said so. They said they got plenty of calls, but trading down was not an option. They wanted DHB, DHB was their guy all along, so they took him. They didn’t think DHB would be available where the teams that were calling were drafting, and that’s too bad. Go to the next player on the board like Percy Harvin or take Louis Murphy in rd 2.
And that’s not to get into a DHB back and forth with you. You know I wanted Maulauga, but I understand the DHB pick. Won’t say I agreed with it, like it matters what any of us on here say, but I do understand it. And I’m no where near as bitter as you are about the DMac pick, LOL!
September 21st, 2009 at 11:03 pm
a couple of sec fans 504 and eatin hog make some interesting observations about jr and dmc. first jr aint stupid. if he doesnt prepare like he needs to it will reveal itself on the field. this is why garcia’s selfishness was rightly shipped out the door. jr needs to have an older qb who can help with the finer points as someone who is currently playin. garcia actually has some nice intangibles that jr couldve picked up on but his politicking on radio undermined what the raiders had in store.
September 21st, 2009 at 11:05 pm
eatin hog basically said what all of us dmc lovers have said all along. dmc is a FEATURE BACK. all this nonsense of he cant run inside and he should only get 10-15 carries is stupid. he needs touches to be effective and consecutive ones at that. problem is that bush is the same way. the wildcat must be infused a few times creatively and he must get 18 carries average. there are things he can do better but this nonsense of situational play is garbage.people look at bush tampa game but forget dmc kc game last year.
September 21st, 2009 at 11:07 pm
I’m not bitter about the DMC pick as much as might think. I will say I would trade DMC straight up for CJ right now but we could’ve gotten CJ and Sam Baker the OT. I think DMC is an awesomw talent who needs to play to it. The same way I complained about Huff because I could see what Huff was capable of doing. I see DMC the same way he is just way too talented and he’s missing holes because he’s playing too fast. If he would be a bit more patient to the hole ad READ the defense he would see a lot more available to him. He just is now as skilled a runner as you guy’s thought he was and I told you so. He wants to outrun everything and that is not how you play. You have watch what they are doing and counter it. Slow down and put a move on someone. If you watch the great runners the set up blockers and tacklers. DMC doesn’t know how to do that yet. He tries to outrun everyone.
I said that about him way before we drafted him and I told them that. Kiffin wanted him because of his stats in the SEC.
September 21st, 2009 at 11:07 pm
I want to see better offensive play calling in this next game….and Russell get in a rythem with high percentage throws and not throwing DEEP low percentage touch passes early. The running game needs to be better also.
That RB coach needs to coach up the RB’s to see the hole and hit hit hard….like how Rathman taught them last year. Lets see DMC do what he does best in some WILDCAT and in the slot. Lets see some WR screens to DHB and some TWO TE sets!
I also want to see Orton on his ass consistently!
September 21st, 2009 at 11:10 pm
we do need to get on cable for this. when your qb is strugglin u probably wanna take the ball out of his hands and let bush and dmc run it a variety of ways. if u think we dont need the wildcat now yall trippin. there isnt any creativity right with dhb dmc or bush. why did higgins get that wr reverse against sd and dhb who did alot of that in college? we are not forcing the issue to get other guys involved just to get russell in order. its assbackwards. we need to win and it shouldnt take your qb missing several throws out of shotgun formations for u to try something else.
September 21st, 2009 at 11:12 pm
BTW,if you feel so strongly about a player for YOUR team you should never take a chance and trade down because it’s fashionable. Or all the pundits have him slotted this and such, you damn well better know your team and what it needs……..period
September 21st, 2009 at 11:22 pm
DK-you mean you want to see more play calling that you think is better.i haven’t seen any problems in the play calling,just poor execution.once the RBs make the proper reads,the QB connects with his open WRs,the Off. will be just fine.it’s pretty difficult to open up your playbook when you are having so many 3 and outs.btw,we have been trying to get JR in an early rhythm,he hasn’t executed.
September 21st, 2009 at 11:24 pm
no priest u are right and the cj thing is spot on. im talking about how people think we should use him is wrong. its funny cuz he needs to play slower and russell needs to play faster. yes he could set up defenders and blockers better. that line however isnt the same same run blocking unit it was in 07. we dont push guys back enuff and satele is just suckin bigtime. morris should stay at c and let mcquistan or barnes come in at lg. dmc will get better at that but he may be more naturally suited for a power blocking scheme where he can hit the hole and go. he runs more like a guy thats bush size than his own. cj is raw as hell ill give u that.
September 21st, 2009 at 11:24 pm
i think people feel these so called experts know everything just cuz theyre on tv. if they so smart why didnt they say anything about tom brady? the draft is about getting YOUR guy not trading down. the bill walsh disciples run the media 2 much. they play with the draft like its some stupid fantasy football draft but this is real life. ive heard enuff about u cant go vertical anymore and 70’s football dont work. steve young made a fool of himself with that. if the chargers could beat our simplistic form of ball they would have. when u have the right coaches and players u can win any way u want.
September 21st, 2009 at 11:25 pm
Brien the General 510 Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 10:01 pm
Richochet slants are much easier for him. Some shorter routes at times will work. The ball needs to get out quicker. We hardly are running plays where the WR goes underneath. I aint saying do that all game long but it will help to do that sometimes. The guy cant read defenses as of now to sit and wait for routes to develop
Richochet: Point is he has ZERO TOUCH ON HIS BALLS..you stated start off easy. How much easier is a screen pass?
Leave it to you to miss the point.
Brien the General 510 Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 10:07 pm
Richochet what is your point of being on a raider blog? You hate the Raiders cuz you are a niner fan ok makes sense. You hate Al Davis because you owe him everything, ok life is harsh and somethings you ant accept it. What is your purpose really on this blog?
Richochet: Told you..love the Raiders. Told you..what’s not to love? told you, not a Niner fan. YOU want me to be one, but as usual with all of your posts, you would be wrong.
Don’t be hatin’, peanut.
I know, I know..”mafia? MAFIA??? mommy…HELP ME MOMMY”
“Walsh said he learned from the Raiders what NOT to do? No..NO!!!. Say it ain’t so!!”
Oh that’s right..I’m going to repost those slap downs so you can try them again…almost forgot.
Oh..and the link? You know..the link from the Niner board where YOU STATED THAT IF THEY SAY SOMETHING IT HAS TO BE TRUE?? Yeah..peanut..that one.
September 21st, 2009 at 11:38 pm
# lefty12 Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 11:22 pm
DK-you mean you want to see more play calling that you think is better.i haven’t seen any problems in the play calling,just poor execution.once the RBs make the proper reads,the QB connects with his open WRs,the Off. will be just fine.it’s pretty difficult to open up your playbook when you are having so many 3 and outs.btw,we have been trying to get JR in an early rhythm,he hasn’t executed.
^^^^^^Throwing deep balls over 50% of the time and having your QB throw touch passes early is not the way to get your QB in a RYTHEM….ESPECIALLY on the ROAD in a hostile environment.
In the next game against the Donks, they need to call more high percentage passes to get Russell warmed up and in ryhthem and get some WILDCAT and Power running game going. Some reverses need to be thrwon in there DHB and RB and WR screens. I wish this team was a better screen team….with DMC, Bush, Rankin, Fargas, DHB,and Murph…..their speed and athletic will allow them to gain some HUGE yardage.
September 21st, 2009 at 11:41 pm
Wait.
First it’s midseason? Now it’s ALL SEASON LONG before everyone ’see’s what they want to see”??
I’m sorry, but apparently you’re confused.
This isn’t Russel’s first year in the NFL.
You say that in the first year. Everyone says “Oh..yeah..ok..LOOK AT SO AND SO”..so now we’ll give our qb a pass also” Technically it’s his 3rd, but hey, let’s pretend he didn’t get to watch and learn from the sidelines..you know..WHAT THEY SAY IS IDEAL, SO THAT YOU’RE READY IN YEAR TWO..WHERE YOU’VE WATCHED THE DEFENSIVE ALIGNMENTS, etc..we’ll just pretend that year was a mystery, never was around year..so now..in year TWO? After starting all of the prior year?
YOU STILL RUN THE EXCUSE YOU NEED TO WAIT UNTIL THE END OF THE SEASON to “get what we want’?
“middle of season” “end of season”..
Excuses. Whiney ass excuses. Same excuses you ran at the beginning of LAST YEAR.
And now? lol..another ‘extension’.
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priesttj Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 10:51 pm
I’ve been saying all off season that it will take until midseason for this offense(passing game) to start to gel and now you know why. It’s going to take all season before we’re seeing what we all want to see. This is a very difficult transition and in the process and you’ll see great games ad bad games until it starts to gel. Then the consistency will manifest itself. But the process is not pretty. Too many young players………period
This is the NFL……period
September 21st, 2009 at 11:41 pm
At the same time….Russell needs to step it the hell up and man up and use his feet and legs more.
September 21st, 2009 at 11:47 pm
they were calling plenty of “high Percentage” passes.he wasn’t completing them.there isn’t a more high % pass than a dump off to the RB on the 1st play from scrimmage,or simple crossing patterns.
September 21st, 2009 at 11:48 pm
DMC needs to run to the outside more often, coach needs to call end arounds and more off tackles, Mcfadden was stopped inside alot;
M. Bush is capable of running in and out, if I recall he has had the longest run each game.
September 21st, 2009 at 11:48 pm
# armond Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 11:10 pm
we do need to get on cable for this. when your qb is strugglin u probably wanna take the ball out of his hands and let bush and dmc run it a variety of ways. if u think we dont need the wildcat now yall trippin. there isnt any creativity right with dhb dmc or bush. why did higgins get that wr reverse against sd and dhb who did alot of that in college? we are not forcing the issue to get other guys involved just to get russell in order. its assbackwards. we need to win and it shouldnt take your qb missing several throws out of shotgun formations for u to try something else.
^^^^^^
Exactly! Lets see a little creativity on offense to keep the Donks defense off balance in this game and pound Orton and man up Royal.
September 21st, 2009 at 11:48 pm
I’m just glad that MR seems to have taken time out for a while against Al Davis!!
Thank god!!
Everything here seems a lot more calm with out him!!
September 21st, 2009 at 11:50 pm
Why did’nt we pick up that guy Wade WR, from waivers…
That guy would be our best wide reciever if he was in oakland!!
6 catches against the Raiders!!
September 22nd, 2009 at 12:03 am
# lefty12 Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 11:47 pm
they were calling plenty of “high Percentage” passes.he wasn’t completing them.there isn’t a more high % pass than a dump off to the RB on the 1st play from scrimmage,or simple crossing patterns.
^^^^^There wasn’t enough of them…..
September 22nd, 2009 at 12:13 am
RaiderDee, I have never laid off of Al Davis, and never will. Everything we’ve done good this year so far is in spite of Al Davis, not because of him. Cable has learned how to run this team effectively while Al meddles. I’ve given props to Cable, not Al.
September 22nd, 2009 at 12:16 am
and, yeh, everything is real calm without me, RaiderDEE. The victory party quickly turned into a civil war amongst the Raider nation over Russell’s ability, with racial slurs coming into play. Just so you know, I’ve been defending Russell. See a doctor about the ADD, bud. Ritalin’s supposed to work for that.
September 22nd, 2009 at 12:56 am
Priest:
Post#6.
You were indeed talking up Chrish Johnson. Looks like you were right.
I agree with you about Fargas.
It’s not that long ago when half the posters wanted to get rid of Bush, then that switched Fargas, now some folks are questioning McFadden.
We should start Bush, run him down the middle alternating with Fargas and use McFadden outside.
We’ve got an awesome three-headed monster of a running game let’s not give it away.
September 22nd, 2009 at 1:04 am
16yearold:
Thanks for that link on Post#59.
September 22nd, 2009 at 1:06 am
Elliss has three sacks-more than the whole Dallas defense.
You got to love it.
September 22nd, 2009 at 1:17 am
I think you all are too hard on Jruss. Remember when P maning first arrived in the league he was at the top of the list of intercepton throwers. Eli wasn’t good until 4 yrs in the league. Give Jruss 2 more yrs b4 you abandon hope.He is our best chance to win right now…Oh yeah, and DMC goes down way to easy…
September 22nd, 2009 at 1:24 am
KK
Post#129.
“Andrew Walter was adored in here!?!
Are you freaking kidding?!
Walter had talent but but his attitude sucked.
Sound familiar?
Also, the Nation could care less what race JR is.
It’s always about how well he plays-and there’s a lot to criticize there.
If he’s part of the Raider Nation that’s all there is to it so give that stuff a rest.
Just win baby!
September 22nd, 2009 at 1:29 am
There you go…Just Win Baby…If JR can continue to learn from each game, good or bad, we will be on track to take back AFC West supremacy in the next decade… YOU KNOW IT TO BE TRUE…
September 22nd, 2009 at 1:33 am
KK
I just read that again.
“Lazy and fat are code words”?!!
What the hell planet are you on?
September 22nd, 2009 at 1:44 am
MR:
It’s good to see you finally like Cable considering the actual number of times you defacated all over his head.
Personally, I’ve been calling for Cable to take over since before he got the job on temporary basis. I haven’t felt this good about a Raider coach in long time.
Which is not to say I liked his play calling in the KC game but I realize it’s limited by what JR can do at this point.
When SD cans Norv at the end of the year maybe Al should bring him on as OC-that he’s good at.
September 22nd, 2009 at 1:48 am
Cableman:
Mornin or whatever it is where you are.
Although it’s stupid to predict, I called for 8/8 or even 9/7 during pre-season this year-and that was before I saw how well the defense was going to play under Marshall and with Ellis and Seymour.
Considering the division, we’ve actually got a shot!
September 22nd, 2009 at 1:52 am
EnglandRaider,
defecated on his head? Could you be anymore dramatic? I just said he was a Cable puppet. He’s not. I didn’t shoot his dog.
September 22nd, 2009 at 1:55 am
MR:
Don’t you ever go to bed?
I think my description is pretty accurate.
YOU calling ME dramatic, now that’s funny!
Leave dogs out of this, we don’t Vick all stirred up.
September 22nd, 2009 at 2:06 am
[...] Cable mulling options at left guard – Inside the Oakland Raiders … [...]
September 22nd, 2009 at 2:28 am
Hey England.
It’s fair enough that MR changes his stance on Cable after seeing that Cable is doing the right thing.
It actually shows maturity and honesty on the part of MR.
September 22nd, 2009 at 2:36 am
Hey Copenhagen:
Actually, I agree. Mr’s name alone tells me he’s been in the nation for awhile. He’s probably been there since the days of the Snake.
September 22nd, 2009 at 2:55 am
Hackett is the one puzzling me…i mean why is Jmarcus returning to sit on the bench after every 3 and out? most NFL QB`s spend the game with their QB coach,Jmarcus sits down like a DL,its something i noticed also in week 1,he was putting that bubble-hat on and just sitting alone for most of the game…at what point does Hackett pull him up,isnt he supposed to be one of the best QB coaches?
the guy throws a flare-pass,which is knocked down…{woops just another 3and out}….yet he will throw exactly the same pass,on his next possession knowing its gonna be knocked down or turned over…theres no looking off or even the occaisonal pump-fake…he seems to have regressed since the Tampa game…..Hackett needs to get in his face
Post 6…watch the Watkins reception on 3rd and 15…then you will see why they fell in love with Dmac..the way to use him to maxium effect,is to sweep him left and right…ive seen the QB miss screens and dump-offs to him that would of gone for big gains..the best is yet to come
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:14 am
Norv Turner to the SD media & fans:
“I don’t think right now we’re as good as you that cover us think…”
Just telling it like it is.
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:58 am
Since 2003, the sports media has led non-Raider fans to believe that the draft-pick flops by the Oakland Raiders were solely the responsibility of Al Davis.
I however disagree, and I will explain why.
In 2006, Art Shell called-out personnel director Michael Lombardi and banned Lombardi from the practice field for, “rooting against the team.” After the 2-14 season, Shell was let go, as was Lombardi as personnel director for the Raiders.
As Lombardi’s last move on Draft Day in 2007, he orchestrated the trade of WR Randy Moss to the New England Patriots, and the acquisitions of QB Josh McCown and WR Mike Williams from the USC offense of new coach, Lane Kiffin.
On one hand, Lombardi told Davis that Moss couldn’t run and even said the same thing to any dope in the media willing to listen to his attempts to protect his reputation. After all, that termination would be Lombardi’s fifth by an NFL team. Lombardi had to do something to protect his name.
According to Davis, Lombardi would commit tampering by telling his former colleague from the Browns, Bill Belichik, that Moss could run.
And what better way for Lombardi to protect his name than to sabotage Davis’ attempts to rebuild a wayward franchise? Once Lombardi was gone, there would be no one left for Al to blame.
Turns out, Lombardi wasn’t the scape-goat for Al Davis. Davis was the scapegoat for Lombardi.
Meanwhile, Lombardi had a willing partner in *crime* in Lane Kiffin who clearly had bought the media line that Davis had *lost it* and thus attempted undermine Davis and bring in friends and family (Mike Williams, while Kiffin would attempted to fire Rob Ryan and hire his dad, Monte).
Kiffin would also insist on starting Josh McCown at quarterback, after Davis had selected JaMarcus Russell to be the future of the franchise. Kiffin, according to Davis, did not want to select Russell.
All the while, the ravenous sports media would declare that Davis should let the coach determine the personnel, even though that is a right reserved only for coaches who also double as general manager (which is something that rarely, if ever, works).
At the time that comments were made by Shell and Davis, the sports media had accused Shell and Davis of scape-goating, but knowing what we know now about Kiffin and Lombardi, history already shows a different perspective.
If you ask me, those who accuse Davis of being “crazy” are in fact conspiracy theorists, because the only way that a reasonable person could believe that is to deny the facts.
“Reporters”; like Jay Mariotti of ESPN openly admitted that he recklessly reports gossip about the Raiders and Davis, and thus does not investigate. As they say, make it global, and thus, I doubt that Mariotti is alone in the sports media with his delusional feelings of persecution by Davis.
Is it any wonder then that fans, players, and executives have believed in lies about a man, Davis, who built a team from nothing, a team that wasn’t supposed to exist, into a three time Super Bowl winner that had the NFL’s best winning percentage for over 20 years?
Lies from the media (and eventually Kiffin) created the internal discord and drama that led players to distrust Davis, such as Jerry Porter, Phillip Buchanon, and Charles Woodson.
Unless you really do believe that Davis is to blame for the ‘roid rager Bill Romanowski and his assault against a teammate in 2003. Or that Davis is to blame for the fact that Barrett Robbins suffered from bi-polar disorder, before and after his tenure with the Raiders.
Kiffin is today what he was yesterday: A drama queen that lied his way into the Raiders and expected full reign by any means necessary.
And all one must do to prove that Michael Lombardi was behind the flops is look at the success of Raider draft picks without Michael Lombardi.
2007 (10 total picks):
JaMarcus Russell, qb (starter)
Zach Miller, te (starter)
Mario Henderson, ot (starting left-tackle)
Johnnie Lee Higgins, rs-wr (primary returner, occasional big-reception)
Michael Bush, rb (significant backup, occasional starter)
Jay Richardson, de (former starter, now backup)
Oren O’Neal, fb (primary fullback)
2008 (5 total picks):
Darren McFadden, rb (primary half-back)
Tyvon Branch, fs (starter)
Trevor Scott, de (rusher)
Chaz Schilens, wr (future starter, currently hurt)
Time will tell on 2009, but so far there has been plenty of promise.
2009 (7 total picks; 1 undrafted):
Darrius Heyward-Bey, wr
Michael Mitchell, s
Matt Shaughnessy, de
Louis Murphy, wr (starter)
Brandon Myers, te
Desmond Bryant, dt
*Richard Seymour, de (by trade of 2011 1st round pick)
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:34 am
Good Morning NATION!!!
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:17 am
Good morning Raider Nation, the only Nation.
insperational pic of the day, enjoy.
http://www.cagepotato.com/hot-fighter-alert-aby-rul…
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:28 am
This guy should be arrested for robbery lol.
That was ex-Raider Gibril Wilson missing the tackle on Dallas Clark which led to an 80-yard touchdown on the first play of the game.
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:30 am
How valuable is Oren Oneal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Man the guy can take on DE’S and DT’s ALL GAME LONG!!!!!!!!!
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:36 am
As usuall the FB gets no LOVE but WHOOOOOOOOOOOOO
HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I just LOVE having OO back in BLACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:50 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:53 am
The football gods strike again, punishing selfish players.
Deangelo Hall and the Skins not very good.
Randy Moss, DBurgess and the Pats should be 0-2.
Gibril Wilson, Jake Grove and the Dolphins lol nuff said.
Help me out people lets name some more ungrateful spoiled bad mouthed players that are struggling right now.
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:00 am
Andrew Walter and the…wait, is he even on a roster?
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:10 am
Dont need the swine flu, they have Orton lol.
I just hope Nnamdi shadows Royal they like throwing those quick screen routes to him when you play off. You know Nnamdi is not playing off.
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:12 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S,WONDER WHAT THE CHANCE’S ARE OF THE SWINE FLU SWEEPING THROUGH COLORADO (DENVER) THIS WEEK…
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:17 am
Good Morning Dirt Lot…do they forfeit NFL games because the whole team cannot play? LOL
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:26 am
JUST HOPE THE RAIDER’S CAN PUT 2GETHER A COMPLETE GAME ON OFFENSE AND DEFENSE. RUSSELL HAS 2 BECOME MORE CONSISTANT 4 SURE. RECIEVER’S NEED 2 HELP OUT WITH THAT IMO.
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:26 am
Post 335 some thing i copied and pasted from the bleachreport. A really good read and gives some insight on Lombardies hatred for the Silver and Black. Along with an espn reporter who says he purposely writes negative articles about our Team. Lets not fall for there innacurate reports.
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:29 am
That is the key right there…Russell has to get it together! Our D will hold and keep us in close games, but it depends on Ja Ding Dong to get it done!!! Last Sunday, the 1st 8 drives gave me a headache!!!
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:34 am
have dmac return punts
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:38 am
I dont blame Bey for his comments about the fans. I mean look at us we love it when they do good, and tear into them when they struggle. In my opinion thats not loyalty, but we expect them to be loyal to us and sign autographs and shake hands. If i were Huff i wouldnt sign an autograph for the rest of my carreer. You cant trust fans we think they dont read the paper or the comments made about them. They are people no matter what, like the Seymour trade we were all pissed saying F him if he doesnt want to be here. When in truth his family was on his mind not football. Now our next whipping boy is Jmac the 3rd youngest QB in the league, with his 4th playcaller. With stuff like that going on around him yes he will struggle but the last thing he needs is for the fans to turn on him. Prime example Nnamdi now he is our leader, now Huff is coming into his own. Point is that it takes time lets embrace them instead of booing them.
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:40 am
Eugene & Higgins are questionable. Gallery & Schilens out.
Hmmm…
punt returner is the biggest question mark here.
Eugene displayed the ability to make a fair catch in traffic last week. Javon Walker had one opportunity and muffed it. thankfully Mike Mitchell was there to recover. that could have been a disaster in a tight game like that!
I think we should start McQuistan or Satele at LG and leave Chris Morris alone at center. He’s done a fantastic job the past 2 weeks
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:45 am
Good Morning Rockstar…
R8dr4lfe21…good point! It’s always disappointing at games when fans boo the team! Yes, there have been some boneheaded calls and plays, but…this is the season where things can and I believe will turn around. Russell has to lern to be accurate and when him and the receivers get on the same page…like Zach Miller said, we will be unstoppable!
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:47 am
Play McQuistan at LG. Let DMAC return punts. Keep Eugene against the run. And sue the league for screwing us on the Murphy non-TD. Florio is right, we got hosed again.
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:48 am
I agree …a true fan sticks with his chosen team through thick and thin.They dont gain-say the owner when some MEDIOT talks trash about the team,when the MEDIOT ALWAYS has his OWN PAY-CHECK in mind.Starting false rumors for his own advancement.A true fan can see through all the bullsh!t and make up his own mind and not let the mediots make up their mind.People who listen 2 the mediots are nothing but a bunch of wagon-jumping FOOLS.
In Big Al Davis I TRUST
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:53 am
R8DR4LFE21,AS A PAYING SSN TKT HOLDER,I WILL BOO LACK OF EFFORT / QUITING ( RANDY MOSS ), OR MENTAL / DISAPLINE ERROR’S ( BARRY SIMS JUMPING OFF-SIDES EVERY OTHER SERIES)WITH THAT SAID, I AGREE WITH YOUR POST,
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:54 am
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 9:06 pm
For those of you who watched the Dolphin game. Compare that to what we saw last wk. Notice the commentary…
“McFadden….there’s a block by Henderson…a missed tackle by Brown and that’s a Raider touchdown a five yard run THEY’VE TAKEN THE LEAD!”
http://www.nfl.com/videos/oakland-raiders/09000d5d812c277e/WK-2-JaMarcus-Russell-highlights
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Good morning Nation. Just saw this link from SnB, but you guys should watch it and look at the job DHB does blocking on the D-Mac TD. Hines Ward would be jealous. What a great job by the rookie.
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:55 am
Whatever happened to us against the world, teams will struggle. How long were the Pats bad, hell look at the Chargers the supposed next champs they look terrible on D. We all know that defense wins championships, look at the Cowboys Romo has the fans killing him right now. Jake delhomme looks terrible and those fans want his head. I know we want Jmac to blame the WR for not running crisp routes like Cutler does, or maybe we want the WR to blame the QB like T-owens. Why dont we just sit back and witness the greatness that is the Dolphins wildcat. The greatness of the Lions, the next superbowl champs Redskins and there 100million dollar man and coward CB D-hall. How about the monster offense of the KC chiefs and there 0-2 record… are we getting the point here.
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:58 am
Dirt Lot, I agree on the Randy Moss quitting and False Start Simms… For a fellow season ticket holder, it got frustrating for years. Finally we see a little discipline! 13 penalties in 2 games…and we overcame them to score! Usually we have 13 penalties in one game. Cable has done a good job in that area. i hope it continues!
September 22nd, 2009 at 7:00 am
Dirt-lot you have the right to boo true, but what do you get out of it besides a headache and getting to our own players heads. The point of us fans is to boo the opposite team making it misserable for them not our own players. True you pay good money to make it to the games as do i although i dont go to all of them. This is our team they should be able to count on us fans for support when there down, get them motivated get them pumped up.
September 22nd, 2009 at 7:01 am
I still wonder why Watkins can’t return punts. Being a WR, he should be a “good catcher” as well, with a little more wiggle than Eugene.
Also, D-Mac was an excellent kick returner in college, if Darren Sproles can return EVERY punt and kickoff for San Diego, D-Mac can return SOME kickoff’s. Lou Rankin doesn’t seem to have the right style for kickoff returns.
September 22nd, 2009 at 7:03 am
R8dr4lfe21…I think the boo birds will come to a cease this season! I believe this year!!! Maybe not the playoffs but i believe once the O clicks, we will make a push!!!
September 22nd, 2009 at 7:04 am
With the trade deadline coming up, do the Packers have a decent RB, if not how about a trade involving M-bush for say maybe C-Woodson, just a thought. How many of us would welcome him back. Of course it would never happen cause we dont have cap space for it, but would we welcome him back?
September 22nd, 2009 at 7:08 am
Honestly i saw more positive post after the Charger loss, then i’m seeing right now after a win. Mind boggling.
September 22nd, 2009 at 7:09 am
I am a Michigan fan and have been for a long while (I grew up in Hawaii, so besides UH, Michigan was my other team) and was actually ecstatic when Woodson was chosen in 98. With that being said, I would welcome him back! But…how much more does he have? I know he had 2 int’s and one returned for a TD, but…I don’t know about trading Bush for him, though.
September 22nd, 2009 at 7:18 am
hwnrdr Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 7:09 am
I am a Michigan fan and have been for a long while (I grew up in Hawaii, so besides UH, Michigan was my other team) and was actually ecstatic when Woodson was chosen in 98. With that being said, I would welcome him back! But…how much more does he have? I know he had 2 int’s and one returned for a TD, but…I don’t know about trading Bush for him, though.
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First: GO BLUE!!!
Second: Cwood is a non-practicing primadonna. A bad influence on our many youngsters, and we don’t need another expensive starting CB. We need depth, especially at nickle. I would, however, go after Kampmann in a trade.
September 22nd, 2009 at 7:19 am
You take away the best WR from any team, and what does there offense look like? not very good. When we get our #1 back look out the field will be more spread open and DHB will flourish with the coverage shifting to Schillens. Does the D double DHB for the fear of getting beat deep, or do they double Schillens for the fear of him being the chain mover and possible deep threat that he is. Not to mention Murphy when we go 3 wide, no more 8 or 9 in the box.
September 22nd, 2009 at 7:21 am
Nation, What Is UP???????
The Raiders put a hurtin on the supposed super bowl aspirations of the San Diego Chargers. The head coach Norv turner in a press conference threw the team under the bus, saying the chargers arent that good yet.
http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/2009/sep/21/n48433-charlede21-acee-chargers/?chargers
Whats more interesting is that the fan base from san diego recognize that we beat the hell out of them.
They are jumping off the bandwagon in droves.
S.D. will not win the west… 7-9 at best.
Next time we play te chargers we will finish the job…
September 22nd, 2009 at 7:27 am
r8dr4lfe21 Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 7:08 am
Honestly i saw more positive post after the Charger loss, then i’m seeing right now after a win. Mind boggling.
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Its funny but the charger fans are saying the same thing how they held up against a better balt defense.
But if i look at the two games, rivers had better success throwing against the ravens than he did against the Raiders.
Rivers wont make it to the end of this season. He is taking alot of punishment…
The team has proven they cannot run the ball. They are a one dimensional team. Cant win without a running game.
September 22nd, 2009 at 7:28 am
Please do not call for more blitzing from our DC ever again.
This weekend was a text book example of how the blitz can kill you against a good QB.
Brees lit up the Eagles who are a heavy blitz team and they do it well.
Peyton, with a 30 minute time of possession DISADVANTAGE beat the fish with the game winning play coming on an all out Dolphin blitz.
The Colts played it smart at the end and rushed four with only one five man rush on the final drive.
You must pressure with four, keep the play in front of you and tackle exceptionally well to beat guys like Manning and Brees.
Blitzing is not the answer.
September 22nd, 2009 at 7:28 am
Jerry says:
“Gallery has started the last 34 games for the Raiders at left guard and made 36 consecutive starts. The only time in his career he didn’t play 16 games was in 2006 when he had a groin strain, a calf injury and an elbow dislocation and missed six games.”
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Pretty sure Gallery missed the season finale in 2005 with a broken fibula.
September 22nd, 2009 at 7:28 am
I actually won money…The line was 10 got a sap to give me a touchdown, and he went for it. A lot of people bought into the idea that we were going to get blown out….
The new orleans pre season game was a sort of an aberation, IMHO… new orleans is doing that to everybody so far… payton and brees are light years ahead of the NFL from an offensive perspective…
September 22nd, 2009 at 7:30 am
Rivers is getting hit alot, i agree i dont think he will make it to the end. My UPS driver is a big time Charger fan, i lost a bet to him and he said F’it dude dont pay me we lost that game you got screwed lol. I bought him lunch anyways though. I got more pleasure out of him saying that.
September 22nd, 2009 at 7:30 am
Like I stated yesterday…That was a BIG BIG WIN 4 us yesterday.It wasnt pretty but it sure was GRITTY,imo.The Defence is now becoming a PROUD DEFENCE with a bend but dont break feel.And I just cant say ENOUGH OO is back OO is back OO is back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He is truly jmacs best friend out there,IMHO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 22nd, 2009 at 7:32 am
We did not blitz san diego… we were getting pressure with four all game, but our D was gasses the last 2 possessions. Also of note they were playing against linemen with fresh legs. Rivers was not getting pressured, we could have sent someone, gave hime a diffrent look or something.
tom brady got blitzed last week by the jets…..
September 22nd, 2009 at 7:33 am
Nam21, Thanks Bro….
September 22nd, 2009 at 7:35 am
Woodson was a cancer in the locker room and thats why we traded him to GB.
Charger fans are fair weather fans just watch when we play them at Qualcomm we will have more fans in the stadium than them.
September 22nd, 2009 at 7:39 am
372. Kudos my man
September 22nd, 2009 at 7:42 am
4eva, what up Brethren???
How is the fantasy league going….
September 22nd, 2009 at 7:43 am
Word press!! Aaaaargh!
Those who remember the Raiders beyond the last decade know the Raiders used to play in ALOT of close and ugly games.
One of the reasons Seabass was taken…
September 22nd, 2009 at 7:45 am
Morning Thec!!!
I’m 0-2 in one league,lost by 1 point last night =(
I’m 1-1 in the other =)
In my 0-2 league I have the 4th highest amount of points,so when I hopefully get a win next week I will JUMP WAY UP in the standings!!!I will get em!!!
September 22nd, 2009 at 7:46 am
Can anyone name 1 Deon Sanders protege that is any good. He hypes his guys so much and gives them a false sence of greatness ALA Crabtree, P-Buhcannon. Deon was great no doubt but he was challenged every sunday some success some not but he was challenged. I remember his comment about tackling not being his resposibilty. I think Nnamdi is and will be the greatest at his position when it’s said and done.
September 22nd, 2009 at 7:46 am
word presssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
sucksssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
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September 22nd, 2009 at 7:47 am
What’s up, AM crew?
Norv Turner says his team isn’t as good as the media makes it out to be?
Really?
This just in: Norv Turner also quoted as saying that the sky is blue and that 1+1=2.
Can’t wait for the matchup in SD.
There are a lot of Raider fans in SD, but you must remember that Raider fans all over the Southland flock to Qualcomm to watch that game.
Next Sunday will be a true test of this team. We were in position to take the AFC West early in 07 I believe and squandered the opportunity.
The Broncos are coming off of one very unlikely win and one predictable win. They will be pumped up. We need to match their intensity rather than come out flat like the KC game.
Crucial, crucial game.
Murphy, Bush and McFadden need the ball early and often. Russell needs to get his head and his heart in the game.
September 22nd, 2009 at 7:47 am
This denver game is monumental…. we win we aqe tied for firat. But more importantly we will be 2-1 against division opponents.
I will be finding a few suckers to bet on the miami SD game. Sd is a 6.5 point favorite. I will get someone to give me 6, doesnt matter miami wins this one outright. SD is lousy in the red zone, they kick field goals all day…
Miami will put up over 250 yards on the ground, on that awful run D of the chargers….
September 22nd, 2009 at 7:48 am
r8dr4lfe21 Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 7:46 am
Can anyone name 1 Deon Sanders protege that is any good. He hypes his guys so much and gives them a false sence of greatness ALA Crabtree, P-Buhcannon. Deon was great no doubt but he was challenged every sunday some success some not but he was challenged. I remember his comment about tackling not being his resposibilty. I think Nnamdi is and will be the greatest at his position when it’s said and done.
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Actually, Chris Johnson works out with Neon Deion in the offseason and credits Sanders with drastically improving his game.
September 22nd, 2009 at 7:49 am
we win we aqe tied for firat.
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What language is that???
We win we are tied for first.
Damn Thec07 use spell check, and proof read first…
September 22nd, 2009 at 7:54 am
I agree…this game is a must win especially in front of the home crowd!
September 22nd, 2009 at 7:54 am
We new what you ment thec07 all good.
Deon is a loud mouth just like Sapp, there whole demeanor is based on being louder then everyone else. Look at Faulk and R- Woodson easy calm no need to yell to get there point accross. The media loves Deon and Sapp cause they bring in the viewers, not me i mute them whenever they open there mouth. Looks like i have another mute coming also with R-Harrison
September 22nd, 2009 at 7:56 am
I think our D will shut Denver down, probably under 10 points. I think JaMeatloaf will improve a little bit but not much. He will get booed!
17-10
Oakland
September 22nd, 2009 at 7:57 am
To answer both of your questions with one guy …
#37 for the Raiders.
Don’t need C Wood back, because CJ is making Prime look pretty good.
September 22nd, 2009 at 7:59 am
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fixxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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September 22nd, 2009 at 7:59 am
if the wildcat was made to utilize mcfaddens talents, and it does seem to work in the nfl- see dolphins- and we have mcfadden and bush- its only a matter of time before the coaching staff gives it a shot—- I hope its this week
September 22nd, 2009 at 8:02 am
Grenn is a good run blocker…I know I know he drives me nuts with his drive killin penaltys.Even tho it dosent seem 2 bother Jmac when it counts most.Must be that precieved lazy attitude we all complain about =)
September 22nd, 2009 at 8:02 am
Thats GREAT Thec get em!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 22nd, 2009 at 8:04 am
Good conversations in here this morning…that’s why I love the morning crew…
Gotta go…have a good day Nation!!!
September 22nd, 2009 at 8:04 am
After watching that game last night, I am even more disappointed in Cable’s play-calling. He needs to take a cue from their OC and find innovative ways to get our best 11 players on the field at the same time. Right now sans Gallery and Schilens; that is Henderson, McQuistan/Barnes, Satele, Morris, Greene*, Miller, Meyers, McFadden, Bush and Murphy.
*It’s sad that I had to admit that, #1 priority in 2010
September 22nd, 2009 at 8:06 am
whoops, that is only 10. Of course J-Russ would be the 11th, it’s just easy to leave out his name, when you are thinking of the “best” players on offense.
September 22nd, 2009 at 8:07 am
SistaBrownEye
You are WRONG!!
Here is the quote from the most recent Jerry MacDonald article. You were in here on Sunday screaming like a little girl all night long about how Cable (supposedly) said Gallery was our BEST O-lineman(most consistent would have been the correct answer you stupid douche.
“He was regarded by Cable as the Raiders’ most consistent offensive lineman last season.”
Check your facts before coming in here making a fool of yourself please I am getting tired of spanking you and the other uneducated idiots in here.
September 22nd, 2009 at 8:07 am
BART, put yourself in Cables shoes. They are putting 8/9 in the box and his franchise Qb cant execute a screen pass. What plays do you call ?
Its easy to second guess the coach but they prepare and put together a game plan and you have to take what the defense gives…problem is JaMeatloaf cant take what they give him!
September 22nd, 2009 at 8:09 am
I wonder if Al would consider hiring David Lee as OC. He worked with McFadden at Arkansas, was the guy who turned him into the beast that he was in the SEC, and he is currently the QB coach at Miami, so it would be a promotion for him. Seems like a good fit for a team, that needs much more creativity in the play-calling, but no more egos in the room.
September 22nd, 2009 at 8:13 am
my lap-top clock is 4:20 AGAIN.Sorry Thec,I tryin 2 answer you,I wouldnt ignore you but this computer clock is diffrent than Ibaba,I guess.So now I wait 2 post this and hope you are still there =)
September 22nd, 2009 at 8:15 am
I would suggest some rollouts for JR next week.
Passing out of the two TE formation with Bush and McFadden in the backfield would be interesting as well.
Teams are obviously trying to take away Miller and the run.
DHB/Murphy will continue to improve but they are still making mistakes. Passing to WR will be a low probability option until the young guys get better and Chaz returns.
September 22nd, 2009 at 8:20 am
Is it too early to talk 2010 draft? I really like the youth movement on this team, but as I watch on Saturdays, I can’t help but notice players that might interest Al and Cable.
I know it would seem like a bad choice, considering our crowded backfield, but I have to believe that Al is looking at Jahvid Best real hard. 1. Track Star 2. Local kid from Oaktown 3. Runs behind the zone system put in place by our current line coach 4. potential Heisman candidate 5. Cal player. What’s not to like?
… I am thinking he aint coming out until 2011, but I am still excited about Jake Locker. We know, both Al and Cable seem to like the Washington players, and Al is a fan of Sarkisian. Would love to see the Raiders get Locker as an insurance policy against Russell.
…and finally the most obvious choice of all, if we are stuck in the top 10 again, I am almost certain that Al selects Taylor Mays if he is still there.
Anybody following any nasty RT’s that we might draft next year?
September 22nd, 2009 at 8:20 am
Denver = another must win game
Actually, we gotta win the next two games to have a chance at 7-9.
September 22nd, 2009 at 8:23 am
post 398???…BBB LMAO!!!
September 22nd, 2009 at 8:25 am
I think if JaMarcus can hit the intermediate well, and get the run going so that we can effectively use PA, we can get away with the deep shots, if nothing else than to keep Denver’s D honest.
Let’s not get crazy, here, Cable. This is a big game and we can’t afford another 7/24 effort, as I don’t think we’ll continue getting opportunities to win the game with 2.00 left every week.
September 22nd, 2009 at 8:25 am
Iba clock=8:23
My clock=11:16
7 minutes from calli 2 florida,I guess
September 22nd, 2009 at 8:27 am
408
September 22nd, 2009 at 8:31 am
2010
Draft for lines!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 22nd, 2009 at 8:36 am
imho
i think jamarcuss needs a qb coach/life coach
he should live with rich gannon 24 hours a day for 2 years he should have to face him when he comes of the field he should have to face him when hes ordering his second plate of chimichangas etc….. i think the kid needs a little tough love
September 22nd, 2009 at 8:41 am
The NFL is full of teams who were dominated the entire game but still won because they played well when it counted.
Finally, the Raiders are one of those teams.
Back when they were good, they used to do that all the time.
Remember, “Just win Baby!”
September 22nd, 2009 at 8:42 am
Huff should teach JR how to watch film.
September 22nd, 2009 at 8:43 am
I know I’m comparing apples and sausages. But to you all you Russel backers out there who say “the receivers are young..the running backs are young..thats why he looks so bad”
Well Peyton manning played and won last night with 2 starting rookie wide receivers and a rookie RB. They didn’t seem to have any problems. And yes Dallas Clark is a veteran..but if Zach Miller had a good QB like Manning, I’m positive he would have monster games too.
Bottom line..Manning can play with rookies and succeed. JRuss plays with rookies and looks like the worst QB ever under center.
I know its apples and sausages. But I hate all these excuses for Russel, when a good QB succeeds no matter what the issues!
September 22nd, 2009 at 8:44 am
JR will come around, if only because he doesn’t want people making fun of him.
September 22nd, 2009 at 8:45 am
Jets being investigated for tampering with craptree.
September 22nd, 2009 at 8:48 am
If Eugene cant go wonder if Mitchell can play on the running downs. Could be a good way to gat his feet wet. Also some big hits fire up the defense.
September 22nd, 2009 at 8:49 am
All the “I wanted Chris Johnson” talk is dead….
Why?
Because no matter HOW you slice it, he was not a #4 pick… Not even AL could justify drafting Johnson @ #4.. Do you think if he could, he wouldn’t have?? CJ ran a 4.28 at the combine, at any spot past #8 that is a automatic AL Davis pick. I really can’t stand when people use hindsight and the “I Told You So” attitude in regards to the draft. At the time, NOBODY except maybe Mike Mayock questioned the McFadden pick. You know who his preference was?? Rashard Mendenhall.. Yep, I TOLD YOU SO!!
Face it, if the Raiders didn’t pick McFadden.. He was gone @ #5 to the Jets. And if he didn’t go to the Jets there was 27 teams lining up behind them to take him.
September 22nd, 2009 at 8:49 am
you’re right…apples and sausages…
P.Manning=10 years nfl experiance???
Jmac=3 years ex.
you do the math
September 22nd, 2009 at 8:50 am
Regardless..about experience..
Tom Brady 2nd year starting produced with no name receivers as well. He had big years with deon branch and david givens (who? thats what i mean)
Good QBs make recievers good..not the opposite way around..
September 22nd, 2009 at 8:55 am
theres a new post in town
September 22nd, 2009 at 11:19 am
angelodebo Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 8:43 am
I know I’m comparing apples and sausages. But to you all you Russel backers out there who say “the receivers are young..the running backs are young..thats why he looks so bad”
Well Peyton manning played and won last night with 2 starting rookie wide receivers and a rookie RB. They didn’t seem to have any problems. And yes Dallas Clark is a veteran..but if Zach Miller had a good QB like Manning, I’m positive he would have monster games too.
Bottom line..Manning can play with rookies and succeed. JRuss plays with rookies and looks like the worst QB ever under center.
I know its apples and sausages. But I hate all these excuses for Russel, when a good QB succeeds no matter what the issues!
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uh-huh…
try finding a QB who isn’t Manning, Brady, Brees or some other all-pro to make your poiint…
September 22nd, 2009 at 12:50 pm
http://www.raiders.com/media-vault/videos/Behind-the-Shield-Online/fd4b453a-a599-41c8-aab4-5c8be400af31
For all the Russell haters. He does care and he does want to win. He’s committed, just not what you are used to.
September 22nd, 2009 at 12:58 pm
“When JRussell was QB at LSU, everyone in the SEC knew that he was deficient betweent he ears, and honestly, he only played well his last season capped by an incredible Sugar Bowl where LSU’s super-strong, super-fast D made Quin look average, and conversely the Slow Irish made JRussell look great.
Aside from being inaccurate, he is toxic to the rythm of the offense. Watch him execute handoffs, or move in and around the pocket, or whatever, he “lolly-gags”. Seriously, there is no sense of urgency or crispness to anything he does, and a QB must be precise to sell fakes and outsmart defenders. Basically, the guy has a multi-million dollar cannon without the technological advances to hit a moving target.
He is a bust, because he is so bad at so many detail s of the position. The NFL is a QB league first and foremost, and JRussell just doesn’t have it to consistently lead a team. Now that I am a Raiders fan, I hope he proves me wrong!”
So, is that why he soundly beat Arkansas every year they played LSU, because he was deficient between the ears? You don’t go 25-4 in the SEC being deficient between the ears. Pounded Bama every year with Joe Kines defense, beat UF after the team turned the ball over 5 times, beat Tenn with a concussion yet he was deficient between the ears. Then beat ND in the sugarbowl by audibling out of 70% of the plays that were called. There is a reason that SEC coordinators gameplanned for the guy, he was good and he was the best QB in the SEC when he was the starter at LSU- if he wasn’t, tell me who was? Stafford? Croyle? Cutler? You name anyone who played around the same time that he did and none of them was better than Russell.
You could say that about just about any QB in the NFL right now, that they didn’t have it when they first began. Drew Brees didn’t have it, Rivers didn’t have it, Roethlisberger didn’t have it- go down the list, they got better as time passed.
You think the guy is a bust because IN YOUR OPINION, he lollygags on plays? I would be willing to bet that you couldn’t even execute a handoff. Stop splitting hairs, he does his job- I mean really, what does how he “looks” handing the ball off have to do with if the back gains 5 yards of one yard? The guy is our QB, and he will be our QB. Don’t trash him to build up DMAC. THey are both young and will both get better with time.