Russell’s late TD drives a Raider rarity
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, September 22nd, 2009 at 2:17 pm in Oakland Raiders.
We can all agree a 35.2 percent completion percentage is off-the-charts awful no matter the circumstances.
Whether it’s rookie receivers, poor-play calling, pass protection or any excuse you want to name, if you’re two games into the season and need to complete your next 16 consecutive passes just to get to 50 percent, it’s a crisis.
That much became clear today during an on-line chat which predictably became a breakdown and a beatdown of the Raiders No. 1 overall draft pick. Wise columnists from the beginning of time urge, “When in doubt, write about the quarterback,” because it’s always a point of interest among readers.
Especially so when it’s your guy who may as well be launching SCUD missiles at mosquitos.
We’ve seen this act before to varying degrees. Russell has a 10-for-28, a 6-for-19 and a 13-for-35 on his resume from last season and went 7-for-23 as a rookie. So going 19-for-54 to start 2008 isn’t exactly “Dog bites Vick” in terms of a storyline. During the mandatory minicamp and OTA sessions open to the media, I wrote daily of Russell’s struggles with even the most basic pass plays, often against no defense.
It’s also true he seemed to pull out of it toward the end of training camp, as he did last season with his last seven games at 61.1 percent (93-for-152, including the 10-for-28 game against San Diego).
Russell will either get better or he’ll be out of the league.
He got lucky against Kansas City in that a potential pick or three was dropped, including one which could have been a backbreaking touchdown.
However, in the last two weeks, Russell has been the quarterback of a team that was behind, and then put them back in the lead with a touchdown drive with less than three minutes to play in the game.
Curious to see how often that’s happened with the Raiders of late, I searched through the game books on NFL.com, which are available on-line back to the 2001 season.
The situation I described above _ a touchdown drive to put the trailing Raiders ahead with less than three minutes to play _ happened exactly once in 128 games from 2001 through 2008. Russell has done it in back-to-back weeks.
The quarterback was Kerry Collins, who capped an 84-yard, 14-play drive with a 7-yard pass to Randy Moss with 1:45 left in the fourth quarter, giving the Raiders a 23-20 lead against the Chiefs at Arrowhead on Nov. 6, 2005.
The Raiders lost anyway, with Larry Johnson scoring from the 1 as time expired moments after running 37 yards to the 1 with a middle screen against a Raiders blitz.
There were other Raiders come-from behind games decided in the last three minutes. Some were by Collins, a handful by Rich Gannon, but all involved field goals and tie scores, a with a few games decided in overtime.
Although it may not be anything more than a statistical fluke in the long run _ which it certainly will be if Russell’s accuracy doesn’t improve _ he has somehow discovered through two weeks to be on target when it matters most and only a touchdown will suffice. And it’s not like the final drive against the Chiefs was without adversity, with false starts on Zach Miller, Louis Murphy and Cornell Green.
Bottom line is if Russell doesn’t get a lot better, the Raiders won’t be close enough most weeks to put themselves in position to win. If he does improve, there’s at least some evidence he’s got what it takes on the last drive.
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September 22nd, 2009 at 3:07 pm
I hope the light bulb turns on real fast.
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:11 pm
I don’t think Russell could get any worse so that’s a positive.
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:12 pm
yo
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:13 pm
# Oakglenn Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:18 pm
At the end of the KC game we got to see the greatest play in all of football. A play we have not seen here for some time and my own personal favorite play: the kneel down.
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Or what we call it in here………. the Richochet.
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:13 pm
thats all Blanda and Lamonica and Stabler did was 4th quarter wins
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:13 pm
Wow…going down memory lane:
I think they should do a Dirty Jobs inside the Raiders HQ.
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I can see it now:
Mike Rowe: I am here today at the headquarters of the Oakland Raiders and with me is John Herrera. John, I hear you have a dirty job for me?
John: Yeah, you could say that Mike. Come with me into Al Davis’ office.
John: Mr. Davis, I am here with Mike Rowe of the Discovery Channel show Dirty Jobs, do you remember me telling you about this?
Davis: What? No, does it have something to do with Marcus Allen?
John: No Mr. Davis, he is just going to help me change your diaper and wring out the Sham Wow we put on your lap.
Davis: Whatever. Did you have that Kawakami killed yet, I am so…
John: Mr. Davis, please, we can talk about that later!
Davis: Oh, alright. Go ahead.
Mike Rowe: Okay John what is the first step, and should I wear protection?
John: Here are the latex gloves we use and I would suggest stripping down to your undershirt and underwear.
Mike Rowe: Why on Earth do I have to strip down to my undershirt and underwear?
John: Just do it Mike, Mr. Davis likes it that way, so that is the way it is done! What, are you afraid or something? Are you a smoke pot, smoke pot….do you know Tim Kawakami?
Mike Rowe: What? Yeah I smoke pot, but I don’t know any Kawakami’s. Come on let’s just get on with this.
John: Okay, first you need to get him up on the desk.
Mike Rowe: Okay Mr. Davis, here we go! Wow, you are pretty light…kind of like lifting a bag of bones.
Al Davis: I can still kick your azz you little…
John: Okay, okay, lets just get on with this….here is a shovel, you might need it; he ate some prunes last night.
Mike Rowe: Thanks, I think. Okay, let’s get this jumpsuit off of you….okay, wow…what a mess. How much do they pay you to do this type of work John?
John: $35 dollars a day…no vacation, but I love it!
Mike Rowe: Should I have a respirator or something?
John: No, this is all natural, but watch your eyes and close your mouth, sometimes he sharts.
Mike Rowe: Okay, he is changed, where do I put this dirty diaper?
John: We have a laundry shoot that runs directly into Lance Kiffin’s office.
Mike Rowe: Oh man, what did he do to deserve to get that poop storm every couple of hours?
John: Long story Mike, and frankly, I am not all that sure as to the reasons, but Mr. Davis wants it that way, so it will be that way.
Mike Rowe: Okay, now where do I wring out this Sham Wow?
John: Oh, um I forgot to call in my assistant. Someone get me Mike Taylor, pronto!
Taylor: Here I am John, sorry I am late, please don’t hit me….I brought the bucket.
Mike Rowe: So after I wring out this Sham Wow…which is surprisingly wet for being on top of a jump suit and a diaper…what is all of this?
John: Well, it catches a little leakage from Little Al, but also some drool too.
Mike Rowe: Little Al? Oh, okay, I see. Well, it is wrung out, now what do I do?
John: Shine Mr. Davis’ sho3s with it.
Mike Rowe: What? Shine his sho3s with it, are you insane?
John: I might be, I have worked here a long time.
Mike Rowe: Alright, whatever, I just need to get out of here.
Mike Rowe: Thanks everyone for watching another episode of dirty jobs. I am running out of ideas, so please, call us with your ideas, and we might just end up helping you with a dirty job!
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September 22nd, 2009 at 3:14 pm
2001 shmooo1
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:15 pm
Gannon’s teams were usually ahead with 3 minutes left…
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:18 pm
At the end of the KC game we got to see the greatest play in all of football. A play we have not seen here for some time and my own personal favorite play: the kneel down.
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:18 pm
richochet is a complete idiot- by implying successful or connected people dont read or make comments on blogs implies he/shes neither as well…the only reason that people back off when asked for details and further personal information is they are prudent and concerned that others (a minority) acting confrontational may be unstable and a danger to themselves or others
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:19 pm
lefty12 Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:15 pm
most were complaining because Mac wasn’t starting and wasn’t the main back.now that he starts and is the main back you are complaining because he isn’t being used properly.make up your minds!don’t you get it-once he starts breaking runs up the gut the outside stuff will become even more effective.the td run was set up by all the earlier runs up the middle.
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Oh I get it…sacrifice 4 or 5 drives to set up a goal line play in case there is a miracle chance to win and you need it at the end. Smart!
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:29 pm
no,Dakota,once he starts breaking those back breaking finger tackles that has him falling down now,those outside plays will be there and they will be much more effective.or are you saying by sacrificing 4 or 5 drives he doesn’t have the ability to run inside?
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:30 pm
MOG,
If you’ve seen my posts, then you know I don’t go there with the insults. I did not say Lokiesha, I said Lisa. My bad for whatever you took offense to.
I still stick by my point. If you want to use friend instead of homey, or women instead of Lisa, then it is what it is.
At this point, I think 2 games into the season, JRuss does not need his “friends” calling him. He’s a big boy and should be able to lean on his team mates and position coaches.
No offense, JMO.
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:30 pm
Where is Norco Bob? Jerry, that cat is unstable! Remember this e-mail you got from his shrink?
TO: jmcdonald@bayareanewsgroup.com
FROM: DR. John Walker, DO, MD, IMG-Alameda, California
Dear Mr. McDonald,
It has come to my attention that one of my patients, known to you as N0rco Bob, has been banned from posting comments on your Inside the Oakland Raiders blog.
Mr. N0rco Bob suffers from a wide variety of psychotic disorders, ranging from Delusional Disorder-Grandiose Type, which causes him to have an inflated sense of self worth, to Dependant Personality Disorder characterized by an over-reliance on others that leads to submissive and clinging behavior and fears of separation.
As of right now, Mr. N0rco Bob’s Delusional Disorder-Grandiose Type is dominant, however, it is my professional opinion that if you ban him from posting his delusional comments about his relationship with the Oakland Raiders on your blog you could push his Dependant Personality Disorder to the forefront, causing him to, perhaps, do harm to himself or others. He also suffers from a mild form of Panic Disorder that in combination with his feelings of separation from your blog may cause him to have a sudden onset of heart palpitations, chest pain, choking sensations, dizziness, and feelings of unreality.
As his treating MD I request that you lift the ban from Mr. N0rco Bob, both for his safety and the safety of others. Mr. N0rco Bob is one of the saddest cases I have run across in my 30 plus years of practice in the field of psychiatrics. Years of research and studies may be ruined by your actions.
Yours Truly,
Dr. John Walker, DO, MD, IMG-Alameda, California
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:31 pm
The only thing richochet proves by spending negative time on here and being rude and insulting is that he/she/both is a miserable human being……like house but clearly not classy or mature enough to be a physician – or any other profession with a modicum of decency or humility
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:32 pm
Lefty, Walter Payton couldn’t run through the non-existent gaps in the middle of this o-line…get a grip.
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:32 pm
Here’s what wrong with JaMarcus:
1. He needs to learn how to pump fake. JaMarcus is very bad at telegraphing his throws. Gannon was a good pump faker, and Rothlishberger is a very good pump faker. Learn from those guys. Can NFL QBs wear visors (like Randall Cunningham used to in Philly)? That would be a quick fix for him.
2. He just needs to throw it, and not worry about putting too much touch on it. The pass he threw to Zach Miller sailed high because the tip of the football was pointed too high up. His typical misses are balls sailing away too high. He just needs to let it rip and just trust the WRs can catch it.
3. Get his eyes checked again. Steve Young mentioned he thought JaMarcus might have bad vision or eyesight. I know he had Lasik eye surgery his rookie year, but maybe it’s time for a checkup.
Unless we rush for over 200+ yards against the Broncos, winning this Sunday is all about JaMarcus.
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:32 pm
LOL …
Back breaking finger tackles ???
Too funny!
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:33 pm
OMG HOW COOL WAS THE LAST PLAY OF THAT CHARGER GAME.
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:34 pm
Dakota
Funny this is, that Norco Bob said some very very despicable things about Jewish people, and I never heard one complaint about it from you or anybody else.
Now, if I, had come to Russell’s defense regarding the racist code words used against him everyday in here, “you people” would be up in arms.
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:34 pm
will they win against the brokehoes?
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:34 pm
its cool…im just saying. he’s human and the team is not as close knit as you think. the first thing that they asked him after the draft was, ”who’s in your circle…who is your support system?” I respect ur opinion though.
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:34 pm
Jhill,you are one of the better posters on here because you stick to football,but do you not talk to friends you don’t work with.if something is happening in your life,do you not have people that are important to you that you can talk to?
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:35 pm
Walter Payton wouldn’t let fingers bring him down.as of now it is insulting to compare Mac to Payton.maybe it is thee who should get a grip-or at least quit looking at things through McFadden colored glasses.
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:35 pm
why would someone get a DO and a MD?
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:37 pm
Hell I don’t know Drray…split personality?
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:37 pm
lefty12 Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:35 pm
Walter Payton wouldn’t let fingers bring him down.as of now it is insulting to compare Mac to Payton.maybe it is thee who should get a grip-or at least quit looking at things through McFadden colored glasses.
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No one COMPARED Payton to Dmac…can’t you read?
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:38 pm
maybe the had a US DO and bought a foreign MD to look cool
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:39 pm
back to football- McFadden needs to return some punts or kickoffs
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:40 pm
CRANK SMOKER Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:34 pm
will they win against the brokehoes?
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Well the donkies played pretty good on sunday, they shut down the run really well and the browns had a little success throwing the ball, if we need to throw the ball to win we might be in trouble, esspecially cuz we havnt played the donkies 3-4 yet.
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:41 pm
found Jamarcus’s house online. Wow 2.66Millions dollars worth of home bought a month before he even signed his contract. Must be nice!
now with 6000sgft. on an acre, Do some film study and go in your backyard and practice Accuracy!
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:42 pm
mayby you should read what you type-WP couldn’t run thru ………that sounds as if you were.the fact is there are holes,Mac is running through them and getting tackled with very little contact.Payton wouldn’t be getting tackled as easily.are you going to deny that also?
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:43 pm
the moderators made this login system to control the blog- but they clearly arent reading the comments- 95% are normal nice fans- the 5% that have nothing but a rude / racist / negative agenda should be banned – isnt that what its setup for.. that plus this inane wordpress typing too fast thing and messed up time- a simple call to geeksquad would fix it
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:44 pm
its simple gang our season goes threw russell as long as hes stinking it up teams r gonna put 8 and 9 in the box stuffing the run forcing russell to make completions going three and out 7 times in 1 game is gonna wear down any dfnse our d was on the field for 41 minutes big AL is not gonna hank russell anytime soon so all we can hope is that russell wakes up and quick
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:44 pm
Yes, LMAO..You have a “Ph.D.”?
Who in the hell has a PhD that writes the way you do?
You need to stop with the BS.
“u”?
“ur”??
lol..what do you have a Ph.D. in? “Dumbass”??
Just curious.
DownTheBayMOG Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:18 pm
BTW I’m not some homey off the block…got a Ph.D. bro… u have to have some type of release bro.
DownTheBayMOG Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:13 pm
jhill…i like u & respect ur opinion however for you to assume what u just did, well ur wrong.
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:45 pm
drray Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:18 pm
richochet is a complete idiot-
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Exactly. And I want to apologize to decent people like yourself Doc. Complete pieces of garbage like rack-o or missed-a-brain only understand a sheeit covered shoe to their mouths. While I personally don’t look to provide this service, I certainly don’t shy away if they are asking for it.
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:45 pm
If we win our D is going to have to come to play to give our O a chance. Bengles has success crowding the line because ortan can’t really throw a good verticle ball and that works well for us because or db’s are playing well.
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:46 pm
have a nice day NATION
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:50 pm
the irritating thing about ALL of this: andrew walter could be making ALL these throws for a much cheaper price. could be spending $30 million on defense or a true #1 WR. i hope jruss turns into an all-pro, but it’s much easier to envision him as a total bust.
the positives. we’re 1-1, should be 2-0. our d-line is for real. huff is finally taking a page out of nnamdi’s book, and michael bush IS the real #1.
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:50 pm
while A.Walter could have possibly made those basic throws,i seriously doubt he could have driven the team down the field at the end of both games the way JR did.
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:51 pm
I felt cheated because the TV broadcast of the game had the television camera focused on Cable for the last kneel down of the game and I didn’t get to see it.
I don’t know what richochet has been saying on this blog because when I see his name I don’t even bother reading it. If he responds to this entry I won’t know it because I won’t read it either.
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:52 pm
Uh…DrRayRay?? We’re going to miss you.
You basically just said that they should ban your sorryass because you posted “negative/rude” commtns.
The following is an example of what a “negative/rude” comment would be.
You aren’t all that bright, are you?
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drray Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:43 pm
the moderators made this login system to control the blog- but they clearly arent reading the comments- 95% are normal nice fans- the 5% that have nothing but a rude / racist / negative agenda should be banned –
drray Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:18 pm
richochet is a complete idiot- by implying successful or connected people dont read or make comments on blogs implies he/shes neither as well…the only reason that people back off when asked for details and further personal information is they are prudent and concerned that others (a minority) acting confrontational may be unstable and a danger to themselves or others
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Pay attention MORON.
Geez…HOW IS IT EVERYTHING NEEDS TO BE EXPLAINED TO THE SLOW AND DEFENSELESS?
I stated that NO ONE who is friends with public figure would then rush to a blog and post personal exchanges ON THAT BLOG THAT THEY HAD WITH THAT PERSON. it’s violation of trust..it’s the KISS OF DEATH between “friends”..and it’s tacky as hell.
Now, MORON, he’s already been busted for being a complete liar.
Him being a liar, and you being an idiot is not likely a coincidence.
Board just seems to have a whole slew of cross posting losers who rush to sign on to PROP THEIR OWN IDIOT TAKES.
Yeah, yeah, you think you’re the first moron WHO STUPIDLY TRIED TO BACK UP HIS OWN STUPID TAKES?
Yes, LMFAO at you, loser.
Now..get back to crying..and I’ll get back to laughing at you.
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:52 pm
a agree that walter could have made most of these throws- and i feel bad hes out of football- i really had high hopes for him- he appeared to have a high football IQ—but the guy did give up…. and no matter the difficulty – the definition of being a pro is that your getting paid to do a job- which means for everyone else in the world showing up and fullfilling your obligations
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:54 pm
THIS IS SERIOUSLY MY FIRST JAMARCUS BASHING POST. I HAVE ALWAYS POINTED OUT NEGATIVES BUT THIS ONE SET ME OFF.
WITH 11:50 TO GO IN THE FIRST QUARTER AGAINST KC, WATCH IT IF U TIVO’d THE GAME. DHB WAS SPLIT OUT RIGHT. BALL GETS SNAPPED AND THE CB COVERING DHB FALLS DOWN AS DHB RUNS RIGHT BY HIM. RUSSELL HAS PERFECT PROTECTION FROM THE LINE AND THE SAFETY WAS 15 YARDS AWAY FROM DHB. JAMARCUS THEN THROWS THE BALL TO THE LEFT TO MURHPY WHO WAS TRIPLE COVERED FOR ONLY A 10 YARD ATTEMPT.
NOW STEVE YOUNG MENTIONED JAMRCUS WAS ONLY READING HALF THE FIELD PERHAPS BECAUSE HE IS COACHED TO DO SO, BUT THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN A 60 YARD TD INSTEAD OF A POSSIBLE INT.
IF THE CAMERA WAS ZOOMED OUT MORE ON GAMEDAYS I AM SURE WE WOULD SEE A LOT MORE OF THESE “POSSIBLE” TD’S THAT WE CANT SEE NORMALLY.
SORRY ABOUT THE CAPS I WAS PRETTY PISSED WHEN I SAW THE PLAY LOL
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:56 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:34 pm
Dakota
Funny this is, that Norco Bob said some very very despicable things about Jewish people, and I never heard one complaint about it from you or anybody else.
Now, if I, had come to Russell’s defense regarding the racist code words used against him everyday in here, “you people” would be up in arms.
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I am not even sure how to respond to this…..
That comment was designed to slam Norco, not support him…it was a joke at his expense….I don’t really want him back in here. Frankly, I pretty much skip over his posts, but I have seen his comments about Jews. I have also seen how you often bring race into your arguments…but I am not about to report you to the Blog police or anything like that. I’ll leave that to RaiderRockstar.
Just for my personal edification, what are those “code words” you speak of? I simply describe Russell as a fat azz who lacks work ethic…hope you are not twisted enough to think that means black in my mind…it just means fat and lacking work ethic.
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:57 pm
In all honesty Lefty, JRuss can do whatever he wants to do. If he has a “support system” in place that includes some friends, then who could be against that.
To be honest, at this point, I really don’t care man. I still have my #2 jersey, but it’s on him. Whatever it’s going to take for him to get in a grove, figure it out, or whatever, it’s on him. It’s right there for him. If he wants to take it, he will. If not, with the talent this team has, believe me someone will be able to “guide” this team pretty far.
I really hope JRuss is the guy. I give him all the credit in the world for leading scoring drives. But other than that, I don’t care about all the other BS. As long as he is not turning the ball over, our D and STs are good enough to win games!
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:58 pm
drray Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:59 pm
we need a replacement for routt, thats our only weak link in the secondary
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What?
You should read up more about the Raiders instead of whining about posts that hurt your widdle feelings.
Routt already is a backup, to Johnson and Aso.
Now you know.
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:59 pm
we need a replacement for routt, thats our only weak link in the secondary
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:59 pm
I don’t understand how Routt is on the field. It’s really saying a lot about Bowie and Mitchell.
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:59 pm
This is going to sound mean but I don’t mean it to..
JR isn’t smart.
They can’t even give him a full playbook because aparently he can’t remember and understand the whole thing, and he is only reading half the field which eliminates potentially half the possibilities of a play. This needs to be fixed NOW
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:00 pm
Lefty,
I don’t have time to give you an entire English comprehension lesson.
Trust me, I am not claiming McFadden is anywhere near what Payton was. Okay?
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:02 pm
Its one of two things…headbutt…steve young is making stuff up or jr is just as smart as big ben…the steelers used the same strategy with roethlisberger when he was a pup. less reads means quicker decisions. however, I’m inclined to believe that young is speculating b/c there is one particular play from the chargers game where jr went thru his progressions and came back to stewart the te for a nice pickup and young even pointed it out that ”hes going through his progressions…” why don’t we just say that the guy is early in his career and he’s not seeing everything. he’s not dumb…he got a 24 on the wonderlic which ranks up there with the top qbs. if you ever heard him talk football or saw him diagram a play, you would totally change your opinion of the guy.
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:02 pm
i called the raiders and a helmet manufacturer last year about integrating small plastic reflectors in the upper corner of the facemask so players could see part of the field behind them– it would help decrease injuries to qbs and if used properly, allow recievers to make catches without turning their heads- so far no response- maybe i should just develop it myself and send it to the nfl
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:03 pm
Here’s what wrong with JaMarcus:
1. He needs to learn how to pump fake. JaMarcus is very bad at telegraphing his throws. Gannon was a good pump faker, and Rothlishberger is a very good pump faker. Learn from those guys. Can NFL QBs wear visors (like Randall Cunningham used to in Philly)? That would be a quick fix for him.
2. He just needs to throw it, and not worry about putting too much touch on it. The pass he threw to Zach Miller sailed high because the tip of the football was pointed too high up. His typical misses are balls sailing away too high. He just needs to let it rip and just trust the WRs can catch it.
3. Get his eyes checked again. Steve Young mentioned he thought JaMarcus might have bad vision or eyesight. I know he had Lasik eye surgery his rookie year, but maybe it’s time for a checkup.
Unless we rush for over 200+ yards against the Broncos, winning this Sunday is all about JaMarcus.
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:04 pm
probably easier to try it at a high school or collegiate level… would make the passing game more exciting
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:04 pm
Drray:
http://shop2.aol.ca/ss/media/11190000/11190927.jpg
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:06 pm
fine Dakota.anything you say.
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:06 pm
We just need one of those commercial truck backup alarms that we can place on Mop Handle’s back…that way, when he is backing into the QB or getting in the RBs way they will be more aware of it.
I think Mop Handle might have lead the Raiders in tackles against KC.
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:07 pm
# Raider Headbutt Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:59 pm
This is going to sound mean but I don’t mean it to..
JR isn’t smart.
They can’t even give him a full playbook because aparently he can’t remember and understand the whole thing, and he is only reading half the field which eliminates potentially half the possibilities of a play. This needs to be fixed NOW
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Remember, there are 10 other guys on that field w/ Jam. Two have never played in the NFL before, one was injured ALL Last year, the two RB’s have a combined 7 NFL starts, and the remaining 5 have played exactly 2 games together, and now THAT’S going to change!
When you see THREE false starts on that last drive, other guys are obviously forgetting what snap count was called in the huddle three seconds before the play!! These, are the facts. So, when they have to pare down the play book a bit, it is not an absolute given that that is 100% the Q’s fault.
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:08 pm
or a simple circular clip on like they use for adding to car mirrors- but with less convexity should work- of course unbreakable plastic ….. kindof like that dakota- but not sticking out- rather clipped to facemask… so less to grab on to…..
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:08 pm
Stop with the JR isn’t smart stuff. And the next person to quote Steve Young or any other 49r guy needs to stop posting!
Is JR making bad reads or overthrowing open receivers?
I would think if it’s the latter, then he’s making the right reads?
Cmon people!
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:09 pm
are any of you guys coaches or know a coach- its something easy to try- and could help save young men from serious injury (plus help JAM from fumbling)
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:10 pm
Wow..you were SERIOUS??
thought it was just a really silly joke…BUT DUDE..YOU’RE SERIOUS?
That is beyond asinine..amazing.
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drray Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:02 pm
i called the raiders and a helmet manufacturer last year about integrating small plastic reflectors in the upper corner of the facemask so players could see part of the field behind them– it would help decrease injuries to qbs and if used properly, allow recievers to make catches without turning their heads- so far no response- maybe i should just develop it myself and send it to the nfl
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drray Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:04 pm
probably easier to try it at a high school or collegiate level… would make the passing game more exciting
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September 22nd, 2009 at 4:11 pm
Mantus…only his agent could spin it like that…are you Russell’s agent????
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:12 pm
I think Russell actually made his biggest leap towards being a leader I’ve seen yet. Zach Miller had a poor game, this guy has been Russell’s safety blanket since day one. Russell just proved that he was able to stand on his own two feet and get it done when it mattered.
Now if he could complete a few more passes during the game, he could actually be pretty good.
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:12 pm
the raiders were the first to use metal hinged knee braces…. i know i helped make them over summers in oakland….helped prevent alot of injuries
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:12 pm
i hear you Jhill.all we can do is hope he steps up and becomes what some believe he can be.if he does this team could go a long way.
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:13 pm
jhill,
Your comments to MOG on the last post went WAAAAYY too far. They were racists, ignorant and classless.
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:15 pm
Jerry
I felt all along that you waited too long, way too long to implement registration and a crackdown on posters who dont behave the way you think they should.
Now if your banishments are to be selective and “rules” are not enforced across the board to everyone equally then you sir are a racist.
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:15 pm
Lay of the Doc! Docs are only human, just like the rest of us!
Sometimes they operate on the wrong side of people’s brains, or they cut off the wrong limbs, or they leave picnic baskets in patient’s chest cavities….
we all make mistakes…even doctors!!!
Now QBs should be held to a higher standard….
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:17 pm
i know plenty of phd’s that write like that ….. your points are sad richochet
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:19 pm
richochet- everything you say makes it more obvious how miserable you are… unable to find joy in life yourself- without friends- you find some twisted comfort insulting others…..
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:19 pm
jhill Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:08 pm
Stop with the JR isn’t smart stuff. And the next person to quote Steve Young or any other 49r guy needs to stop posting!
Is JR making bad reads or overthrowing open receivers?
I would think if it’s the latter, then he’s making the right reads?
Cmon people!
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Great.
According to YOU, it’s OK that he over threw a open receiver. You’re just happy he recognizes he’s open.
Lol..you don’t realize how weak that sounds?
Oh..and that “wide open” screen pass? Yeah..props to JR for “going through his reads”
Now, bad news for you.
JR is as dumb as a rock.
Cable clearly stated all he could handle in the first two years was 40% of the playbook. He HOPES he can put in another 40% for this year. The fact Cable went public, indicating Russell needs to put in the time studying so that they can expand their plays at their disposal, pretty much makes it clear he’s not that sharp.
Oh..and YOU stating: “Oh, 40% and 40% equals 80%. 80% is a B.”
Ignorant.
Besides, Russell is 40 plus..oh..maybe 15, according to Cable’s insinuations..regardless, guy is poster child for “Even Dumb people can throw a football..just no guarantees where it’s going”
That makes that rock look “bright”.
Oh..that’s right..some clown said ‘When the light bulb goes on with JR, watch out”. Was that you?
Funny stuff, lol..big time.
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:20 pm
Rusell is a complete idiot.
I dont care if he is good in the last 2 minutes of the game…
He will not have that luxury when he plays top notch teams…. he will be far behind in the 4th quarter… so that argument by Jerry is a fluke…
Truth is this QB nees somebody in his grill, like Mike Ditka use to do, to make him realize he better grow up real fast or he will be out of the NFL…
He is a millionare primadona that cant hit a simple screen pass…. LOL
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:20 pm
JT52
You’re right, I noticed that the other day. He wasn’t looking that way at all.
I’m not sure when this play occurred, as I can’t get to the game right now, but Russell throws to DHB as he is slipping and the DB gets a hand on it.
If DHB stays on his feet, its a catch or at least in DHB’s zip code.
The play you’re talking about was pretty early, so I think the one I described may have been after, but I guess my point is Russell isn’t distributing the ball (obviously) evenly.
He’d rather try to fit a ball into triple coverage to a guy he trusts than come back to the other side of the field and look at his option there.
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:22 pm
drray Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:17 pm
i know plenty of phd’s that write like that ….. your points are sad richochet
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Of COURSE you do, rayray..
Because “ur” is just so universally accepted in the business world, rayray..just like “u” is, lol
Moron.
Now..by all means..don’t let me prevent you from spending any more time on that stellar invention of “DUH DU DUHHHHH…I’S GONNA PUTS A MIRROR ON DA HELMETS. DAT’S A GOODS IDEAAS ISNT’ IT EVERONE”?
Yea, rayray..that’s a great idea *pat on head*..you’re just as special as you can be, rayray.
You may go now.
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:24 pm
I’m out, Nation.
Be good.
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:24 pm
you can only do this on a blog… in real life you have no power or control over your environment– no relationships… thus the negative obesession here- the one place you can feel a little confident hiding behind a computer – classic pathology of an insecure middle age individual realizing they have accomplished nothing….or much less than they should have……..
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:24 pm
And here come the new look Denver defense with Mike Nolan…
Just watch how they confuse the heck out of Rusell…
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:24 pm
JT Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:24 pm
And here come the new look Denver defense with Mike Nolan…
Just watch how they confuse the heck out of Rusell…
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Agreed…
Listen if you people who are saying he is smart and all, I hope you are right I really do, but until he starts showing us that he is the QB you all think he is then im not sure, if he comes around il be the first to eat my words i promise you that.
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:25 pm
its DR. Ray- American College of Sports Medicine…..
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:26 pm
Time to go home.
Hey Jhill…shame on you!!!!!
Is that better KK?
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:27 pm
You’re exactly right. He does need someone in his face, as he comes off the field saying WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT? SHAPE UP!!.
Anyone think KC’s coach didn’t get their attention? He wasn’t happy with what happened, and he let them know it.
You see Parcells totally ream players coming off the field.
The Niners Singletary has every player knowing ‘Don’t mess with me. You do your job, and we’re cool. You don’t, and you’ll encur my wrath”.
Cable?
Guys a muffin. Has he EVER called out a player on the field? Ever held someone accountable? No..
That’s why Russell stated he’s not sweating EVER being benched..that’s ‘I know I’m the guy”.
He needs a major attitude adjustment.
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JT Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:20 pm
Rusell is a complete idiot.
I dont care if he is good in the last 2 minutes of the game…
He will not have that luxury when he plays top notch teams…. he will be far behind in the 4th quarter… so that argument by Jerry is a fluke…
Truth is this QB nees somebody in his grill, like Mike Ditka use to do, to make him realize he better grow up real fast or he will be out of the NFL…
He is a millionare primadona that cant hit a simple screen pass…. LOL
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:28 pm
its my job to think of ways to prevent injuries……. whats yours? trying to bully people on the internet???
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:32 pm
Ok, now I’m a racist …
LOL, Ok I think I’ve heard it all now.
The guy said he was from his block, not me.
Using homey instead of fried makes me a racist?
Lisa instead of what, Karen maybe? I doubt many Barbie’s or Jennifer’s live on the same block as JRuss family.
Racist? It’s getting more and more looney by day in here.
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:32 pm
Agent?? I wish, give me a cut of that 50 mil…………
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:32 pm
jhill Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 3:00 pm
Why not just wait until he comes home for some of Mama’s sweet potato pie? Why is JRuss accessible to the homies from the block? I’ve got to imagine that if he is taking homeboy’s calls, the Lisa and Lawana are without question taking up precious minutes of his day.
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I really had to take another look at what I posted. I really hope that “sweet potato pie”, “homey” or “Lawana” are now on the list of racist terms.
You’ve got to be kidding me!
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:37 pm
Jawalrus Sucks, and I say that as a fan of his, but no quarterback that has been this innacurate has EVER gotten better, EVER
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:37 pm
drray Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:25 pm
its DR. Ray- American College of Sports Medicine…..
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LMAO..of COURSE you are rayray.
Because all in your position post that dumb moronic “hey, I want to invent a mirror on the helmets so the qb can see when he’s going to be sacked..oh..and so receivers won’t have to turn around”
Dude..you sound like you’re 12.
That was moronic, plain and simple.
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:41 pm
the only thing more moronic on this blog than a brainstorming ways to help people….are your consistent negative comments that only make it OBVIOUS you are miserable
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:43 pm
I don’t know why people bother replying to Richochet. He won’t even answer a simple question.
What is your favorite NFL team?
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:43 pm
I mean gawd damn Vegas!
fellas, maybe, instead of homies?
some Bzee’s instead of using names?
I dunno …. ugggh eehhhh heeemmm … I mean I don’t know.
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:45 pm
Without saying whether Jamarcus is “smart” or not, I will go out on a limb and guess he won’t be a QB coach after he retires.
His two career games in KC have been awful. Maybe the two worst games of his career. Maybe he just doesn’t play “well” at that park.
My daily Jamarcus excuse!!!!!
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:45 pm
richochet—youre not impressing anyone here- they are just annoyed at you or laughing at you……
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:46 pm
JHill, the world is full of a bunch of PC weenies. Don’t listen to them.
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:46 pm
drray Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:28 pm
its my job to think of ways to prevent injuries……. whats yours? trying to bully people on the internet???
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Dude..you just, in ALL SERIOUSNESS, ran the “I want to invent a mirror to stick out the side of the helmet so the players can see behind them”
Now..what type of thought process was used on something that would OBVIOUSLY be sticking out the side of a helmet..and helmet that is used FOR RUNNING INTO OTHER PEOPLE??
“oh..sorry..I gouged your eye out with my mirror..my bad”
“oh, wow, that cut looks deep..oh damn..you broke my mirror”.
You’re a fool.
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:51 pm
Drray
He is not worth the time to explain your idea. Just ignore him. The dude is a loser with no hope.
Just remember he has to be the most gutless man not even to tell us who his favorite football team is.
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:52 pm
try to read before you type:
“or a simple circular clip on like they use for adding to car mirrors- but with less convexity should work- of course unbreakable plastic ….. kindof like that dakota- but not sticking out- rather clipped to facemask… so less to grab on to…”
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:58 pm
Maybe he only plays good under pressure when he doesn’t have time to really think about it.
Otherwise, he’s nervous.
He couldn’t really be this bad.
It has to be a frame of mind thing.
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:59 pm
thanks raider dell- GO RAIDERS!!!
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:00 pm
Drray I can kinda see what you are talking about but, personally I don’t like it. Not sure if you have played ball before but when you are in the middle of a play and you take ur eye away from an area you are running to you can get hammered anyway.
Good to see u you are trying to develop something like that but I myself don’t think it is something as useful as you might think
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:01 pm
i just came 2 say / russell has only started 21 nfl games.
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:06 pm
JJ walker won’t make the year I don’t know why he is even on the roster. DY No Mite!!!
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:07 pm
You guys know doggone well that this owner drafts with an eye on physical attributes and relies on his coaches to get those players up to speed.
Every draft pick, with the exception of Zach Miller, has been raw physical talents. Whether its Tyler Brayton’s 40 time, DMAC athleticsm, Robert Gallery’s arms, or the 40x of DHB and the YouTube clip of Mitchell. And of course Russell, who has all the physical skills, but had the misfortune of playing in the worst college football conference for Quarterbacks.
Rarely does a Raider rookie come out gang busters. Name me 1?
Now you add the coaching chaos of the last 6 yrs and here we are.
You have to let this young team and QB play through this. They shows glimpses of getting it….we just have to get a consistent lineup on the field.
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:07 pm
They say it all the time in other sports, “too much time to think”.
You can have too much time to shoot in the NBA (too wide open; “not in rhythm), and you can have to much time to think for infielders throwing (think Chuck Knoblauch, Steve Sax, Rey Ordonez).
Can you have too much time to throw? To much time left in the game to care as much?
Whatever it is, if Nmamdi, Seymour and Ellis are behind him, I’m behind him. Good Defense and excellent Special teams can be enough smoke and mirrors so to speak to win games.
First place in 119 hours!!!!!
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:08 pm
Let this thing play itself out. So many here are too quick to jump the gun. JR has played less than 20 professional games and not many in college either.
Eli Manning took a while, McNabb took a while, Drew Brees got traded because SD didn’t think he had it, Nnam took a while, Huff may have just arrived. Shoot you can even say Brady, Rodgers & Romo took a while being bench warmers.
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:09 pm
START JAVON WALKER!!!!!!!
START JAVON WALKER!!!!!!!!!!!
JAVON WALKER!!!!!!!!!!
JAVON!!!!!!!!!!!
WALKER!!!!!!
LUKE JA VON SKYWALKER IM STILL YOUR FATHER!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:10 pm
Terrapin,
While some of those guys may have “took a while”, Jamarcus isn’t anywhere close. Well except for the last two-minute thing.
If he only improves slightly, he is on pace to have an absolutely horrific year, statisticly speaking. If we close to .500, he gets a pass. If were are 6-10 or 5-11 we need to at least “consider” other players at his position.
He needs to start improving immediately. It shouldn’t be too hard to improve from last week, I’m rooting for the big guy, but the harsh reality of it is setting in a little.
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:10 pm
one idea i do like was someones in here last week who thought putting a plastic eye mask like LT has over the QB so the defense cant read his eyes- might help J Marcus
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:11 pm
He shouldnt need a tinted mask if no other NFL Qb needs one.
Qbs use their eyes to their advantage to move the safties. you dont fix a problem by avoiding it.
Thats like if you always hook the ball in golf do you aim so that when it slices its in the middle of the fairway? No you fix it
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:12 pm
And let me tell you someting: Chris Johnson used to stink! Many here wanted him gone (including yours truly). These things take time to play out. Just sit on your couch and watch. (And encourage your team – not bailout on them).
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:13 pm
Drray if you are refering to something like you saw in 6th day with arnie no way that happens, i thought that was the dumbest thing i ever saw
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:13 pm
Mark Sanchez has only started 2 NFL games.
He is already better than Russell.
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:14 pm
Gradkowski is better than Russell.
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:14 pm
Correction: I didn’t want Chris JOhnson gone. I just didnt want to see him on the field!
But my how things change.
On thing that doesn’t change: THIS SITE SUCKS!! FIX THE DAMN BLOG MAN!!
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:14 pm
drray Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:10 pm
one idea i do like was someones in here last week who thought putting a plastic eye mask like LT has over the QB so the defense cant read his eyes- might help J Marcus
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get him some of these.
http://www.anysunglasses.com/FF184.html
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:16 pm
ten years from now we might have live video fed into the mask itself- who would have thought in the seventies they would have audio—–and now they do
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:18 pm
Those were great!!= give them to oren oneal while hes smashing into merriman!!
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:18 pm
I hate to say it, but you can use the whole “it’s only his 21st NFL game” only if his 21st NFL game wasn’t the worst game of his career!!
His 22nd NFL game better be a whole helluva lot better if he is the long-term solution at QB.
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:19 pm
When Peyton Manning is on the field, he’s playing chess like a grand master. When JaJagoff is on the field, he’s playing Connect-4 like a special kid.
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:24 pm
Kirk Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:13 pm
Mark Sanchez has only started 2 NFL games.
He is already better than Russell.
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Al Davis doesnt have the IQ to spot talent like Sanchez…. or he may have a excuse for not drafting players like Sanchez….
I would really like to hear that excuse, and his reasoning for drafting Rusell… a stiiff QB that cant move in the pocket and can hit simple screen passes our out patterns….
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:25 pm
Vegas – Romo had a game much worse than Russell and he is an established superstar vet! In the same week nonetheless. I’ll be surprised if the Cowgirl fans want to run him out of town.
One game doesn’t make a player. A career does. And Russell hasn’t played in much to start drawing these grand conclusions.
Heck, not more than a week ago you were all over how much DHB sucks. Now the guy caught everything in his vicinity and its suddenly getting quieter on the DHB suck rant.
Like I said, you can’t be too judgmental with these young guys. Drawing grand conclusion when the game is in its infancy is a fools errand.
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:27 pm
well. mark sanchez may or may not be better than russell. check it out tho.. different coaches. differnet opponents. also. ponder this. white boys get better qb coaching in high school and college. look at matt barkley? he went to qb high. black dudes are wide recievers in high school or play basketball , or are told to run …
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:27 pm
Raider Dell Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:51 pm
Drray
He is not worth the time to explain your idea. Just ignore him. The dude is a loser with no hope.
Just remember he has to be the most gutless man not even to tell us who his favorite football team is.
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SEE??
ANOTHER POSTER WHO SIGNS ON..WITH ONE REASON, ONE REASON ONLY..to post regarding/towards me.
I’m a magnet.
I told you.
Now..where is Dell?
NO WHERE. The little tool came and left..not ONE WORD ABOUT THE RAIDERS..only wanted to talk about me.
Told you..am I good..or what?
Oh..and what part of I LOVE THE RAIDERS don’t you understand, Delly?
(btw…you should thank me for you even having a reason to sign on.)
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:27 pm
Terrapin,
On my DHB position, I have been a little critical of him, but I wanted to draft either a WR or D-lineman in the draft, and supported him, albeit somewhat at times.
But I thought he looked pretty good last week. He is physical, he blocks very well and watch the link below on what he does on the D-Mac TD. He plays with enthuiasm, and I, at this moment, think he stands a better chance of having a better NFL “career” than Jamarcus.
http://www.nfl.com/videos/oakland-raiders/09000d5d812c277e/WK-2-JaMarcus-Russell-highlights
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:28 pm
doriangray Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:27 pm
well. mark sanchez may or may not be better than russell. check it out tho.. different coaches. differnet opponents. also. ponder this. white boys get better qb coaching in high school and college. look at matt barkley? he went to qb high. black dudes are wide recievers in high school or play basketball , or are told to run …
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Wow.
Could be the dumbest comment on this board since Norco’s idiot comments.
Dude..you’re whack.
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:28 pm
Look, the Raiders don’t have the strongest organization folks.
1. They didn’t get the kid here on time
2. They gave him incompetent coaching his 1st 2 yrs
3. They’ve changed the offense a couple of times
4. They’ve given him multiple HCs and playcallers
5. The team was leaderless and rife with bad habits
6. They gave the kid plodding talent when they threw him out there.
Is he where these other guys are? Nope. That’s the price you pay when you don’t get the organzation right.
Finally, Davis has gotten some stability, now let’s get Schilens back on the field and hope that Russell stays positive and keeps plugging away.
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:28 pm
I don’t know if anyone watched the
Georgia, Arkansas game at the weekend
???
“with their first pick Of the 2012 NFL draft
the Oakland Raiders select, Ryan Mallet,
QB, Arkansas.”
I would play that guy this weekend before
I would play Russell again!!
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:30 pm
Russell has only started 18 games. Not 21.
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:31 pm
SnB Offense Defense Specialteams Says:
“Rarely does a Raider rookie come out gang busters. Name me 1?”
Charles Woodson.
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:34 pm
That’s only 2 games over one full season of play. I know some fans here are a little challenged.
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:36 pm
JR’s home in Oakland:
http://www.sportshometribune.com/images/jarus1fin2.JPG
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:37 pm
i wonder if we will ever get a stadium like dallas….. over a hundred thousand fans and a 100ft long monitor…… if we start winning maybe we get one of these the next decade
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:37 pm
and why does the media make so many excuses for jason campbell ? hes got new coordinators evey year.. hmmm? so does u know who … .. u see. sum qbs get more patience than others. especially if their name is jake delhomme or mark bulger. why do these guys get contract extensions? riddle me that.
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:37 pm
He’s played in 21 games, started 18, stood on the sideline in pads for 33, not in pads twice and has practiced for 2 full training camps, and 3 full seasons of practice and game preparation.
Is that better?
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:38 pm
Sorry not 3 “full” seasons of practice and game preparation. 2 and 1/8th
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:38 pm
Over/Under on how many tix the Raiders need to sell by Thursday to avoid a blackout.
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:39 pm
Terrapin Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:25 pm
Vegas – Romo had a game much worse than Russell and he is an established superstar vet! In the same week nonetheless. I’ll be surprised if the Cowgirl fans want to run him out of town.
One game doesn’t make a player. A career does. And Russell hasn’t played in much to start drawing these grand conclusions.
Heck, not more than a week ago you were all over how much DHB sucks. Now the guy caught everything in his vicinity and its suddenly getting quieter on the DHB suck rant.
Like I said, you can’t be too judgmental with these young guys. Drawing grand conclusion when the game is in its infancy is a fools errand.
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First off Romo doesn’t show up all out of shape, by his own admission.
Romo doesn’t state to one and all that it doesn’t matter how bad he plays, he’s not worried about getting benched.
Romo didn’t just end the previous year being the absolute worst starting qb in the league.
And DHB has caught everything in his vicinity? lol..uh.. WHAT?? he caught ONE BALL..ONE. in two games, while dropping plenty he should have caught.
Both Bey and Russell are way behind where they should be.
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:40 pm
i wouldnt mind him being slow catchingon to the system nearly as much if he was in shape and made blocks like the one he made more often…..
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:40 pm
Is this the famous sophomore slump for JR? Inquiring minds would like to know. In terms of games played this would be his 2nd year.
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Vegas, coming in for a series or two is not what I would really consider credible experience for a franchise QB. 18 games is the number. Everything else is just noise. Its the games that count. Not pre-season or TC.
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I’m hoping he pulls himself out and continues to improve as a player. Some players regress and just stay there or get worse. Others pull themselves out of that slump.
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:41 pm
look. russell is a big dumb southern boy with super talent. do u remember how terrible randall cunningham really was? he could never throw an accurate out or short pass, never . most people when they are blesse with enormous talent, they dont try hard to learn fundamentals. like if a guy was 6 foot 8 and could jump 50 inches high and ran a 4.2. / he might play basketball and never learn to dribble becuz he would dominate all thru school.
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:41 pm
Javon JJ Walker ? What has he done but , nothing . Cut this guy or something but he contributes nada.
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:46 pm
and javon walker could be that possesion reciever.
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:47 pm
I’m not a hater, I pull hard for the big lug. I wear his jersey, and deflect all criticism from opposing fans everytime I hear it. I never yell and scream about how much he sucks, just sit and hope he improves.
But I am tired of defending him. He needs to improve and quickly. All facets of the QB position, especially consistancy. If not for himself or the fans, than for his teammates. Those guys are busting ass on the other side of the ball, let’s not waste that on his “development”.
We can win this division, but not with him overthrowing a half dozen OPEN receivers every week.
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:49 pm
I doesn’t take any type of “organizational stability” to complete a screen pass!!!!!!!
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:50 pm
drray Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:52 pm
try to read before you type:
“or a simple circular clip on like they use for adding to car mirrors- but with less convexity should work- of course unbreakable plastic ….. kindof like that dakota- but not sticking out- rather clipped to facemask… so less to grab on to…”
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Oh..got it..”not sticking out”..well, Einstein, that will work well…AS LONG AS THEY PUT A WINDOW IN THE BACK OF THE HELMET, and drill a hole in their head.
Hey?? You can help there..show them yours.
Oh..and great idea, rayray..something clipped INSIDE the mask..so..when the fingers come through..by accident..and it gets shoved into the eye?
OH..I KNOW..USE YOUR OTHER EYE, RIGHT?
Good one, Gomer
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:50 pm
was it jamarcus or dmac who had alot of family and friends come to the game to watch?….maybe that was the pressure?
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:51 pm
McFadden20 Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:28 pm
I don’t know if anyone watched the
Georgia, Arkansas game at the weekend
???
“with their first pick Of the 2012 NFL draft
the Oakland Raiders select, Ryan Mallet,
QB, Arkansas.”
I would play that guy this weekend before
I would play Russell again!!
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Generally, SEC/Big12 Quarterbacks are going to need more work.
Most of your elite QB talent comes from the North and the West.
Here’s why. In the North and the West, those colleges/high schools don’t have the superior athletes that populate the southern teams. Therefore the margin of error is larger. Look at your average SEC team. They play probably 3 equal talent games a year.
There is a reason why Graham Harrell and that QB from Missouri went undrafted.
Name me the starting SEC QBs in the league right now:
1. Peyton Manning – His Dad
2. Eli Manning – His Dad & Brother and he played at overmatched Mississppi
3. Jay Cutler – played for overmatched Vandy…not a real SEC team
4. Jason Campbell – Struggling
5. JaMarcus Russell – Struggling
The Matt Ryans (BC), Flaccos (Delaware) Big Ben (Miami of Ohio), Sanchez (USC) come from schools that didn’t have superior talent or ran a NFL pro-style offense.
Russell will get it. But he didn’t come in with best pedigree coming from the worst college football for Quarterbacks
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:51 pm
Cable called him out in the press conference kind of when he said “you have to live and breathe this stuff to win”
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:52 pm
Vegas Raider Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:46 pm
JHill, the world is full of a bunch of PC weenies. Don’t listen to them.
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Oh yeah, until someone says something rude about White Folk, then EVERYBODY IS a racist.
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:53 pm
SNB Offense, With all due respect bro, your argument about talent level is interesting to say the least, however the west namely the pac-10 routinely crank out professionals that make it in the NFL in all postitions. For instance USC had how many draft picks in this years draft, not to mention the players that were picked up as UDFA. Moreover I think your comment on style of play is more accurate.
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:53 pm
Lynn from Snot Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:51 pm
Cable called him out in the press conference kind of when he said “you have to live and breathe this stuff to win”
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JaNormous is too busy inhaling cheesburgers to breath football.
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:53 pm
News flash
Just got off the phone with JR and he has a message for everyone
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySaHZZhSwXE
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:54 pm
As the Terrapin sees it, the Chargers are in serious danger of having a below 500 record this year. They are hurt and they are not as good as advertised. On more bout with Oakland like they had Monday night and they’re done.
Denver will run out of they’re lucky breaks at some point. I mean really, Kyle Orton? Puhleeze.
KC stinks.
Oakland, they have a shot. My best guess is this team goes between 7-9 and 9-7 with a shot at the playoffs in competition with the Dolts.
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:56 pm
i see you are having difficulty grasping the concept of light reflecting at an angle equal to the incident to the perpendicular of bisection……or maybe you havent noticed when you look at the side view mirror- you dont see yourself??
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:57 pm
Dakota – post # 6
wow
very funny
Carry on Nation
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:58 pm
Time to consider a 2nd or 3rd round QB in the next draft. Someone who will really push Russell.
The QB from Oklahoma St. might be just the thing.
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:58 pm
JR sends all his love
with some words of wisdom
And the beat goes on
Just like my love everlasting
And the beat goes on
Still moving strong on and on
Do you ever wonder
That to win, somebody’s got to lose
I might as well get over the blues
Just like fishing in the ocean
There’ll always be someone new
You did me wrong ‘cos I’ve been through stormy weather.
And the beat goes on
Just like my love everlasting
And the beat goes on you’d better believe it
Still moving strong on and on
Don’t stop for nobody
This time I’ll keep my feet on solid ground
Now I understand myself when I’m down
Like the sweet sound of hip music
There’ll always be something new
To keep the tables turning
Hey this super song
There’ll never be an ending
And the beat goes on
Just like my love everlasting
And the beat goes on
Still moving strong on and on (the beat goes on) on, …
Get down playing that fee, sure the beat is real
The beat goes on
And the beat goes on,
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:58 pm
Zac Robinson
College: Oklahoma State
Height/Weight: 6-3, 220
Robinson threw 25 touchdown passes and only 10 interceptions in 2008 and set a school record for total yards in 2007. He has good accuracy and understanding of the game. He moves well.
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:59 pm
the only way you could see it if i drew it for you…. visualizing abstractly in three dimensions requires significant intelligence
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:01 pm
drray Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:56 pm
i see you are having difficulty grasping the concept of light reflecting at an angle equal to the incident to the perpendicular of bisection……or maybe you havent noticed when you look at the side view mirror- you dont see yourself??
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Actually the idea is very compeling. Have you created a prototye?
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:03 pm
Nnamdi just texted me.
He said to tell everyone to stop drinking the hateraid and dont be a racist
Love JR where he is at.
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:03 pm
Romo – Eastern Illinois
McNabb – Syracuse
Favre – Southern Miss
Rogers – Cal
Collins – Penn State
Leftwich – Marshall
Ryan – Boston College
Brees – Purdue
Hill – Maryland
Warner – Northern Iowa
Hasselback – Boston College
Bulger – West Virginia
Orton – Purdue
Cassell – USC
Rivers – NC State
Quinn – Notre Dame
Palmer – USC
Big Ben – Miami of Ohio
Flacco – Delaware
Schaub – Virginia
Gerrard – East Carolina
Brady – Michigan
Sanchez – USC
Edwards – Stanford
Pennington – Marshall
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Cutler – Vandy (not a real SEC/Big 12 team
Manning(s) – Raised by a QB dad
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Who’s left?
Russell – LSU
Stafford – Georgia
Campbell – Auburn
No QBs from Florida, Miami, Alabama, Florida State, Arkansas, South Carolina, Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Missouri, Nebraska, Texas A&M, Kentucky, Miss. State
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:08 pm
sup NATION???
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:09 pm
Thec07 Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:53 pm
SNB Offense, With all due respect bro, your argument about talent level is interesting to say the least, however the west namely the pac-10 routinely crank out professionals that make it in the NFL in all postitions. For instance USC had how many draft picks in this years draft, not to mention the players that were picked up as UDFA. Moreover I think your comment on style of play is more accurate.
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I am talking primarily about QBs. The SEC/Big 12 record is abysmal.
Tebow is being crafted as a tight end…..that kid from Ole Miss might turn into something. Bradford plays in a gimmick offense as does Major Apple..er Colt McCoy
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:10 pm
Plunketthead Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:03 pm
Nnamdi just texted me.
He said to tell everyone to stop drinking the hateraid and dont be a racist
Love JR where he is at.
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LOL, even Jamarcus and his infinite level of confidence doesn’t even “love where he is at”.
Why is it so hard for people to admit that he has to improve dramatically if he is the long-term solution? That was as awful of a Quarterbacked game as I have ever saw. Even with the last few passes. You got to love the stones on the kid to step it up late, but if he plays like that, games are not going to be for the taking in the 4th quarter 90% of the time.
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:10 pm
Hide the women, and children 408 has entered the building…
What up Bro???
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:13 pm
408 I’m curious, what’s your stance on Jamarcus, sitting here 48 hours removed from 7 of 23?
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:14 pm
chargers go 7-9, rivers will not make it thru the season, The oline is an utter mess.
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:15 pm
i called the raiders equipment guys when jamarcus was getting creamed last year and one of the two helmet manufacturers..they both said it was interesting and they would look into it… but have heard nothing since…maybe i should make a prototype with pictures and send it to local high school league for trial in practice….obviously it cant detach, or shatter, and in no way would it provide a complete view from behind.. but i do think a small 3-4 cm slightly convex mirror in the upper corner of the facemask, slightly tilting outward – would provide an additional 90-120 degrees of vision..even if the qb didnt get details… he would see motioneasily……the center of the eye is great for detail, th eperiphey is gret for motion…..thats why many native americans learned to spot when hunting from the periphery of their vision when young
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:16 pm
drray Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:15 pm
i called the raiders equipment guys when jamarcus was getting creamed last year and one of the two helmet manufacturers..they both said it was interesting and they would look into it… but have heard nothing since…maybe i should make a prototype with pictures and send it to local high school league for trial in practice….obviously it cant detach, or shatter, and in no way would it provide a complete view from behind.. but i do think a small 3-4 cm slightly convex mirror in the upper corner of the facemask, slightly tilting outward – would provide an additional 90-120 degrees of vision..even if the qb didnt get details… he would see motioneasily……the center of the eye is great for detail, th eperiphey is gret for motion…..thats why many native americans learned to spot when hunting from the periphery of their vision when young
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Before you create the prototype, you should have the concept model in 3D. that way you can tinker with diffrent design concepts, and with 3D printers you may even be able to “print” a prototype….
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:18 pm
I am not negative on Russell like many of you folks. Randy Cross said “stats are for losers” if a QB can’t win games in the clutch..what good is he? That was in reference to the Dolphins game last night.
The fact that Russell has done this twice in a row suggests to me its about consistency and getting Schilens back on the field.
Training camp all year had Schilens as a major target. He’s gone and defenses are keying in on Miller again.
I would like to see Cable get the offense going with some screens and shorter passes. Throwing 50% of all passes deep is ridiculous. I know its about “let’n it rip” but even Cutler only threw 4 or 5 deep throws his entire game.
Losing Schilens at the end of camp really hurt this offense
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:19 pm
what makes this hard to take is at least marinovich was boozing smoking chronic and banging 2 flight attendents til 5 00 am the night before games.
its like jacheeseberger is getting his guranteed money and waiting to get cut he dosent care. you can see it. if we make the playoffs that just means less off season i hate guys like that. no heart.
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:19 pm
Like it or not, we’re stuck with Russell (barring injury) for at least this year and probably next. The Raiders simply have too much invested in him to go in another direction.
As a Raider fan, I’m hoping he can develop into a franchise QB – but as a realist, I just don’t see it happening.
Here’s why:
Entering his 3rd year in the NFL, JR still doesn’t exhibit the ability to see the entire field or read a defense. He has thus far failed to master the skill of using pump fakes or his eyes to move defenders. He locks on receivers and telegraphs his throws.
But here’s the most disturbing aspect about Russell’s play:
Let’s assume JR is able to improve the mental aspect of his game. Let’s assume that with more experience the lights come on and JR is now capable of seeing the entire field, reading defenses and manipulating defenders. Let’s assume he’s now able to manage a game like a Peyton Manning. It won’t matter because his accuracy has been abysmal.
You’ve got to be able to consistently hit your target. The ability to launch a laser pass through a tiny window is a God given skill that only a few people have. JR might have that. But can he consistently hit open receivers ? Can he use ‘touch’ or take something off his throws and be consistently on target ? So far, when evaluating Russell, the answer is a resounding NO.
Yes, it’s relatively early in his career. It’s true there hasn’t been stability in his coaching. Sure, he’s playing with rookie WRs, and he doesn’t have a very good offensive line in front of him.
But that doesn’t change the fact that his development has been slow and he’s not exhibiting the football smarts or skills requisite to being an outstanding QB.
And an outstanding QB is what we all hoped he’d turn out to be when we invested the overall number one pick on him.
Only time will tell what the ultimate verdict on Russell will be, but at this point there’s not much reason to be optimistic that Russell will ever be a very good NFL QB.
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:20 pm
maybe it would be simpler to just have an audio link to the qb which could give a beep or other load noise if he was being pursued from the blind side… they already have that in place….all it would take is a designated individually watching from above with no microphone- just a red button when the qb is in iminent danger of being levelled- he could at least brace himself and hold on to th efootball
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:27 pm
thec just got home… must chug a beer and check email… Oh and F the donkeys!!!
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:28 pm
is vince young available ill take a head case with talent over laziness and no accuracy
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:28 pm
Vegas…
Im on the Jamarcus bandwagon. I will admit that he needs to get more accurate,BUT the dude is putting us in a position 2 win games.. @ the end of the day thats all I care about. Oh and I ‘m feelin the DHB block on DMC’s go ahead touchdown….
bring it on haters…
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:29 pm
408RAIDER Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:27 pm
thec just got home… must chug a beer and check email… Oh and F the donkeys!!!
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Right……
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:30 pm
ill have to get someone from a medical orthopedics device firm to put it as you said in a cad program and send that with letterhead along with the beep idea ….. you never know.. could save someones career
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:31 pm
i dont think they take you seriously unless you put it in writing with credentials on it…
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:32 pm
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September 22nd, 2009 at 6:32 pm
Drray, I feel you 100%…. you should investigate, it is a lot easier than you might think…
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:33 pm
I also doubt the Raiders will attract an elite QB talent if Russell fails.
They will do a John Elway/Eli Manning.
If you were a young QB, would you go to a franchise that had so visibly failed to develop its talent.
In a strange way, Russell might just have the personality to thrive here. Other guys would have become frustrated ala Andrew Walter….
Lets see what happens on Sunday. He played well against them the last time.
Man, I can’t believe the negativity here. Its worse now than at any time last year!
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:34 pm
Vegas——–
The boy dont smell like wildflowers, thats for sure.
I bet Vegas odds of him making it right now about 50-50.
We are all a little spoiled because of Flacco, Ryan & Sanchez.
Most teams would have JR hold a clipboard for three years, but we are not that team. I will give him at least three to four years and I bet Al is thinking the same. If Al has this team put together and JR is not clicking then Al will get a Garcia or Pennington to dink and dunk them down the field. But you have to admit JR can be super impressive at times, something very QBs are capable of.
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:34 pm
I think 3rd and 15’s play to Jamarcus’ strengths. The Raiders will send 4 guys 15 yards down the field and Jamarcus will wing it down there. He’s done well with it the last few weeks.
If the Raiders are going to do well this year, it is really going to be old-school Al Davis Raiders style. Physical Defense with great corners (check), the best kickers in the league (check), and a “Gutsy” for lack of a better word, QB with deep play potential (check).
I’m rooting for it, but please Jamarcus no more 7 for 23’s!!!!! Man that was tough to watch.
Check you guys later.
Raiders!!!
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:34 pm
If the Idea is solid, and can be “proven” to be something that saves careers, and lives everthing else is incidential…
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:35 pm
the raiders will win at oakland against denver
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:36 pm
Report from Broncoland:
The sportscasters & fans are high after 2 wins against weak teams & are ready to roll over the Raiders. I compare our KC game to the Donkeys/Browns game: the browns beat them all over the field until that fluke last play (I lost a crab dinner to my girlfriend who said I’ll bet the donkeys win with 38 sec. left) Orton is just stoopid enough to throw Nnamdi’s way a few times if he can get up from 4 or more of Seymour’s hits!
Raiders 24
Donks 14
2 TDs by our defense!!!
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:37 pm
Whoa! At least Jamarcus doesn’t got problems like Floyd “Money” Mayweather. Read this…
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=4495350
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:37 pm
wow this posting comments outa order is a trip.. Vegas I answered you its up^^^^^^ there somewhere….
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:38 pm
When was the last time the Raiders developed its own Quarterback?
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:40 pm
its especially useful for the raiders deep ball inclinations to protect their qbs in any way possible if they expect them to stand in there for the big plays… I think al davis might be just the right guy to try it on the practice field at least to see if it works..he has never let being the first at anything stop him before- and is well known to take care of his players even after their raiders careers
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:40 pm
yo THec… F the donkeys they die!!!
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:45 pm
does anyone else remmebr the announcers mentioning one of the raiders had a large family contingent at the KC game? i think it was dmac or jam…. maybe theirs a connection? Possibly eating too much after going out with the family the night before….or pressure or??
September 22nd, 2009 at 6:46 pm
Denver is better than last year. they are also playing with confidence. So far they have been able to run the ball. The defense under nolan seems to be performing well. Dumervil has been getting to the QB with regularity. This game is imporatant and will be tougher than the KC game.
If JRUSS plays like he played in the SD game we win this out right blowout. If he struggles its going to be ugly….
ALL roads point to JRUSS….. He will get it done….
September 22nd, 2009 at 7:08 pm
kind of pissed since i have dtv i wont be able to see the new football league kind of blows oh well.
September 22nd, 2009 at 7:34 pm
BFD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If JaMeatloaf wasnt such a FKN mess & disaster we would be running out the clock with 2:00 mins left these last 2 games! Instead were mounting a comeback from the hole he put us in! Is it nice he cameback SURE! But not the point!
Both KC & SD should have been Raider blow outs!
The end.
September 22nd, 2009 at 7:44 pm
WOW…one particular idiot has been in here for 3 hours making a case for JaMeatloaf! What a life, is he paying you to suck on his jock or are you just a mindless drone ?
September 22nd, 2009 at 7:59 pm
I cant help it. I’m unemployable
JERRY wake up!! your blog is dying!!!
September 22nd, 2009 at 8:00 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:28 pm
Look, the Raiders don’t have the strongest organization folks.
1. They didn’t get the kid here on time
2. They gave him incompetent coaching his 1st 2 yrs
3. They’ve changed the offense a couple of times
4. They’ve given him multiple HCs and playcallers
5. The team was leaderless and rife with bad habits
6. They gave the kid plodding talent when they threw him out there.
Is he where these other guys are? Nope. That’s the price you pay when you don’t get the organzation right.
Finally, Davis has gotten some stability, now let’s get Schilens back on the field and hope that Russell stays positive and keeps plugging away.
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good posts you about Rusell…. good points….
Still….
Accuracy….
Even you and I can hit a screen pass….
Cmon!!!
September 22nd, 2009 at 8:02 pm
Lets not be blind and see the reality
Even a 3rd stringers gets a screen pass….
But Rusell can win in final 2 minutes?…
How many games will he have that chance if he goes 3- and outs…. because of lack of TOUCHHH and ACURACYYY
September 22nd, 2009 at 8:03 pm
JT, none of those things above (1-6) have one single thing to do with his lack of accuracy….NONE!
September 22nd, 2009 at 8:04 pm
Lol yeah running outta things to say, sound like a broken record!
September 22nd, 2009 at 8:10 pm
Looking at the success Brees is having in NO and remembering how he killed us as a Charger you gotta wonder why Davis didn’t pursue him when he was on the market and how drastically different this team would be.
I watch Russell and wonder how he can be so bad. It is embarrassing and painful. There are some throws he will never be able to do, like the over the shoulder side line throw. They might as well stop calling that play because he is either going to over throw out out of bounds or under throw for a int. He can’t do it, meanwhile, Sanchez, Flaco, Ryan all of these new guys are tearing it up. They can make that throw in their sleep. it’s talent, work ethic and willingness to improve.
I see none of this in JR. What I see is a lazy guy who was gotten buy on his college talent and size and didn’t need to put a lot of effort into it. He has no study habits and the motivation of a spoiled 6 year old. His ex team mate that was this weeks opponent had to call him up to motivate him.
The problem is we are pot stock with the guy. Davis is going to give him this season and half of next to watch him fail (think Marc Wilson) sure he will show moments but he will never lead this team to the play offs or be the dynamic QB we had hopped for. I have reserved my judgment for sometime but…
Count me in on the Bust bandwagon
September 22nd, 2009 at 8:16 pm
Al Davis has strict height-speed ratios and Brees was too short, he could never be a Raider QB. Apparently we’re good enough to choose how we’ll go about winning…whenever we actually start winning. Better beat the donkos this weekend because the schedule doesn’t get any easier.
September 22nd, 2009 at 8:39 pm
I was screaming at the TV as well this week…but we have alot of young talent on the field and it was really good to see them score AGAIN to take the lead late. It will be all about the defense as it is every year.
September 22nd, 2009 at 8:52 pm
The issues with JRuss are mechanical and correctable. Go back and look at his first game. Inside the hashmarks his is very accurate. Outside the hashmarks the balls sail over the receivers head. Just like Cable spent the first 4 days in training camp going over basics JRuss needs a crash course passing the ball.
Usually when you overthrow a receiver there are a couple of things that may be wrong. 1. Release point 2. hand placement 3. throwing the ball too hard. 4. footwork.
I think he tries to compenstate for poor hand placement (”the ball comes out of my hand strange”)and early release points. Footwork isn’t that bad except when he wants to throw a slant and pulls back without resetting. In the first game his best pass outside the hashmarks was when he threw falling backwards to Stewart and that one dropped low. You can tell when his hand placement is off when the ball wobbles too much. Think 3 wobbles for 5 rotations. I think we will know early in the game if the coaches addressed these issues or not. JRuss’s upside is off the charts. I still remember when he went surgical on the Broncos last year. Also he may be thinking too much about the mechanics of it all and not just doing the damn thing.
Good news is these things can be fixed. Bad news is these things should have been fixed before the season started in training camp.
September 22nd, 2009 at 8:54 pm
After reading though most of the posts I came up with the JR excuse of the night…. The winner is the post that said he might of had a lot of friends and family there at the game and might of ate to much the night before. Hard to be accurate on a full stomach. Hard to see the field with a lot of gas!
Note: This email was scanned for racist content even KK should not be able to find anything here…
September 22nd, 2009 at 8:54 pm
k all I want to know with to #208ish post is, What happens to the 2011th pick the pats get if there is a lock out? Since it could happen and a lock out would be a great time to redo rookie and vets pay.
September 22nd, 2009 at 8:55 pm
Russell is the starting QB of my Raiders and I’m riding with you big dawg!! These arm-chair QBs can hate all they want but when the game has been on the line….JR has been on the money! That you can’t teach….HATERS!!
Da kid will be fine…no other QB in the NFL has essentially 3 rookies as their top WRs. Most of you seldom mention that or can’t comprehend the significance of the impact on the QB.
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:01 pm
BAMA, what do rookie WR’s have to do with JaMeatloaf throwing the ball 6 feet over their head or wide left, wide right?
What does a rookie WR have to do with JaMeatball throwing a screen pass to DMAC in the hands of Glen Dorsey?
Explain dat 2 questions about da kid..
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:06 pm
If Russel snaps back to the QB he was the last three games last year these struggles he had against KC will be distant memories. After reading what some of the other posters have said and thinking about it for a couple of days I suspect that Hackett is working with him on mechanics that he has never worked on before and he is out there thinking about it instead of just doing it. That would explain how he could have been so bad in mini-camps and also why when at the end of the game and he just rared back and let it go, he suddenly got so much more accurate. I hope that game was a learning experience for him and when he goes to make throws next week he doesn’t think about it. He just does it.
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:11 pm
i am so upset at the way that washington redskin back up / rookie linebacker bashed fans for booin by sayin . ” u fake fans have no input in the game, u work your 9 to 5 at mcdonalds” wut a dildo ..
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:12 pm
# Oakglenn Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 10:40 am
The issue with Russell right now from my perspective is he does not have trust in his offensive team mates. He certainly does not trust his offensive linemen, and his trust in his wide receivers is EXTREMELY suspect.
Mistabrown Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 11:04 am
I heard it ALL now! Russell doesn’t “TRUST” his mates so he sails the ball over their head or clunks it off the hands of Db’s.
Beautiful take Oakglen! What a genius perspective…lmao
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“I’m not too worried,” Zack Miller said, “because he’s going to bounce back and our passing game is going to get better as he gets more trust in the wideouts and we fix some things as a passing offense. SF Chronicle 9/22/09
mista brown fan is a troll. An ignorant troll. A very stupid ignorant troll. And a browns fan. Making him even more ignorant.
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:14 pm
BAMA ?
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:16 pm
if a raiders player said that i swear on marques tuiasosopo`s porn-stache , i would dis own my beloved team for 3 years..
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:17 pm
# JB Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:36 pm
JR’s home in Oakland:
http://www.sportshometribune.com/images/jarus1fin2.JPG
…….
Good for him. He’s earned it. In this season alone he’s led two game winning drives…well, one of them spoiled by a stupid call to use a prevent defense.
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:18 pm
You guys keep clowning Russell. We’ll be 3-1 and you guys will still be finding ways to blame him for us being 0-4…even though we’re 3-1.
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:18 pm
drray Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:56 pm
i see you are having difficulty grasping the concept of light reflecting at an angle equal to the incident to the perpendicular of bisection……or maybe you havent noticed when you look at the side view mirror- you dont see yourself??
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oh..just stop. It’s getting ridiculous. Yeah, you’re right..I DON’T see myself on the mirror THAT’S HANGING ON THE SIDE OF MY CAR..because..it’s POINTING DOWN THE SIDE OF MY CAR..and not at me. Yes, yes, concave..so you want to put a mirror INSIDE THE FACE MASK..that you actually believe they will be able to see BEHIND them?
Let’s forgot the fact it obstructs vision and of the danger of it being shoved into an eye..IT’S STUPID.
You’re an idiot..nothing else describes your concept.
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:19 pm
# BAMA_RAIDER Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 8:55 pm
Russell is the starting QB of my Raiders and I’m riding with you big dawg!! These arm-chair QBs can hate all they want but when the game has been on the line….JR has been on the money! That you can’t teach….HATERS!!
Da kid will be fine…no other QB in the NFL has essentially 3 rookies as their top WRs. Most of you seldom mention that or can’t comprehend the significance of the impact on the QB.
If the Bronco defense
plays like they have the last 2 weeks Da kid 
will be under 25% completions after 3 weeks into the season 
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:20 pm
well ya know. the rookie wideout thing has to be true. i di=ont ever remember another qb goin thru that. at least joe flacco has d.mason and heap and clayton. our guys are still learning routes. and true to = the fact that schillens IS the teams # 1 wide out target soooo..? just sayin there is validity to that argument.& the o-line does not suck..
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:20 pm
Ok BAMA cant answer.
BAMA i’ll help you out….those things (#211) dont have any bearing on JaMeatballs accuracy they are just lame excuses you & many others in here are using!
FAIL!
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:20 pm
Wow
I must have too much time… Need to go to bed. I think I listed over 75 excuses….
My favorites
1. He ate too much the night before
2. He is from the SEC
3. He has had too many coaches and too many changes boo-hoo cry me a river….
4. He has two rookie WRs (who were generally open!)
5. His line sucks (note to the idiot that made this excuse – everyone was playing the run daring him to throw off play action and he still could not complete a pass)
6. They took away his security blanket (Miller) (Note to person making this true statement as an excuse – this is the NFL they are going to take away things and make you prove you can beat them with other things before they give it back to you)
7. Its only his third year and his first year was not much of a year…. (Note: Whose fault was that!)
8. Al Davis (insert descriptive text of choice after this)
9. To much pressure
10 Just wait till Shillens gets back (Note I hope your right!)
Bottom line considering how open his WRs were and the fact that the teams were daring him to throw the last two weeks, this had to be some of the worst QBing I have ever seen. I would have to go back to Andrew Walter staring at the sky or Rick Meir to see something this bad in a Raider uniform.
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:20 pm
We’re going to destroy Denver on Sunday. In previous years I worried about how we’d follow up wins. Not with Cable.
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:22 pm
OG I have to admit I’d rather have taken Adrian Peterson than Russell, but I’m ok with Russell now. I don’t think he’s going to be great but he’s good enough. We’re a smashmouth football team. We don’t need a Brady type.
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:22 pm
j.russ home looks like a gay massage parlor in sacramento . … dont ask …
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:25 pm
oh who caes? adrian peterson will get signed by the raiders when hes 31 and 15 % slower. we ride with the guys we got . u think any team in the league is sayin. man! we shoulda drafted louis murphy ( OTHER THAN THE 49ERS) ..<– my argument ,,/ fail .
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:25 pm
BAMA I can clearly see you have a sharp mind..
Did you ever consider if JaMeatloaf didnt stink up the stadium for 3 1/2 quarters we would have beaten SD & KC easily and we would have been using BUSH to run out the clock with 2:00 mins to go ?
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:27 pm
Brady Quinn: FAIL
Tim Couch: FAIL
Mistabrown fan: FAIL
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:27 pm
lmao @ buying a Russell jersey
#2 never was so appropiate
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:28 pm
i bet if most u guys met mista at a game , youd give him a hug…
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:30 pm
I’m buying a Russell jersey. And, that picture of his house should say it all. A lot of you are calling him names, mocking his weight, from your trailer parks.
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:30 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:20 pm
We’re going to destroy Denver on Sunday. In previous years I worried about how we’d follow up wins. Not with Cable.
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:32 pm
NO..what you mean to say is you’re a freaking moron for running the “Russell doesn’t trust his receivers” Yes, yes, we all know you can’t formulate a cohesive thought without someone spotting you the thought, but doesn’t change the fact it’s probably the weakest whine about why Russell is stinking the stat sheet up.
Stating someone’s a troll?
Is that supposed to mask your stupid comment?
Do you actually think anyone buys it?
Now is when you say something completely irrelevant to the above comment, hoping IT masks the fact I just called your sorryass out.
Ok..proceed.
Oh..this time? Do it with feeling.
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Oakglenn Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:12 pm
# Oakglenn Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 10:40 am
The issue with Russell right now from my perspective is he does not have trust in his offensive team mates. He certainly does not trust his offensive linemen, and his trust in his wide receivers is EXTREMELY suspect.
Mistabrown Says:
September 21st, 2009 at 11:04 am
I heard it ALL now! Russell doesn’t “TRUST” his mates so he sails the ball over their head or clunks it off the hands of Db’s.
Beautiful take Oakglen! What a genius perspective…lmao
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“I’m not too worried,” Zack Miller said, “because he’s going to bounce back and our passing game is going to get better as he gets more trust in the wideouts and we fix some things as a passing offense. SF Chronicle 9/22/09
mista brown fan is a troll. An ignorant troll. A very stupid ignorant troll. And a browns fan. Making him even more ignorant.
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:32 pm
MR, you can probably find a Russell jersey next to the Alex Smith jerseys with a BIG sign that says “clearance”.
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:34 pm
RMR
Your ok with what??? JR has a QB rating of -5 and you are ok with it??? He destroys the cap and sucks all the money away and thats cool? We could have had CJ and a vetern QB FA or we could of had AP an extra 4th round pick and probably no McFadden or DHB because we would have won more games. One problem though is Lance would probably still be our coach because the rift I think began over Russell. AD wanted him and Lance did not. We might also still have Rob Ryan.
My conclusion thank you JR thank you JR….
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:35 pm
Richochet:
Your posts are so incredibly amusing.
I was going to say “entertaining”, but, that would be giving you too much credit.
I love how you present yourself as such a tough guy with your numerous “peanut” references to everyone else.
You see Richochet, the thing is. . . . .most of us acknowledge YOU as nothing but the dumb little peanut.
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:35 pm
mista brown fan is a troll. An ignorant troll. A very stupid ignorant troll. And a browns fan. Making him even more ignorant.
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:35 pm
I wonder if Hackett has tried teaching Russell the shovel pass as an alternative to the screen. It is a very effective way to get rid of the ball for qb’s that have big arms.
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:36 pm
Trolls 35,
Our performance in the first two weeks completely changes my view. I didn’t think we were going to run the football. Thought we would need Garcia to keep us in games. As it stands, Tom Cable is keeping us in games. I still wouldn’t mind having Garcia. What a spark plug he would be if Russell were to go down. But Gradkowski is similar to him and hopefully Russell stays healthy anyway. I was wrong about Cable. I don’t know what else to say. His persistence in running the ball, the play he called to win the KC game, which was brilliant and as good of a call as any Gruden ever made as our coach, has me buying into him. I’m the kind of fan who has to see it to believe it. Since I’m seeing it, there’s no reason not to believe it. Now I just hope Davis doesn’t screw things up with Cable. The old man hasn’t changed, and Cable has to continue to find ways to win with Al meddling, because he will meddle.
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:37 pm
Just because somebody conjectures about why somebody is struggling to do something they have done successfully in the past doesn’t mean you are making excuses for them. Just saying someone sucks without looking for the reason why is intellectually bankrupt.
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:38 pm
I still wouldn’t mind having Garcia. What a spark plug he would be if Russell were to go down.
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:39 pm
“I just hope Davis doesn’t screw things up with Cable.”
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:39 pm
Richochet:
So you really, really hate JaMarcus.
I hate to tell ya. . . .but he’s gonna be here for a while.
So the way I see it, you have a few choices:
1. Switch teams.
2. Stick your head in your toilet and stay a while.
3. Hold hands with Ralph Barbieri & sing the Autumn
Wind is a Raider.
Dude, you’re really lame. You think your comments are so analytical.
You wouldn’t know analytical if it hit you in the face when it comes to the Raiders.
Follow suggestion #2 and we’ll all be happy.
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:40 pm
OK let me get this striaght. Two trolls are acting reasonable and pointing out fallacies of the Raider fans post and the Raider fans posts are irrational and unrealistic. Thank you JR Thank you JR you did it again…. JR is the next Steve Young canton here he comes!
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:41 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:17 pm
# JB Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:36 pm
JR’s home in Oakland:
http://www.sportshometribune.com/images/jarus1fin2.JPG
…….
Good for him. He’s earned it. In this season alone he’s led two game winning drives…well, one of them spoiled by a stupid call to use a prevent defense.
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You’ve gone over the deep edge.
How in the hell has he deserved it?
Now you’re just being asinine.
Last year he was the WORST STARTING QB IN THE LEAGUE..and this year? As stated earlier, he’s throwing at 35%, where no other qb is below 50%.
The HC is stating he’s NOT doing enough.
He’s getting ridicule from every direction because of his horrible ball handling, and you have the gall to run that sorry take?
Quit hanging on his sac..Guy hasn’t earned squat.
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:41 pm
Oh and look who is here: The Browns Troll and the Stupid Troll. The best part is they STILL don’t get that everyone is ignoring them.
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The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:22 pm
OG I have to admit I’d rather have taken Adrian Peterson than Russell, but I’m ok with Russell now.
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As I posted earlier, some of you should put in a tape of Steve Youngs first two years in the league. Maybe the game in Green Bay where he was 8 for 17 for 50 yards and a pick, might be a good start. 2.9 yards per pass attempt is NOT GOOD.
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:42 pm
Trolls 35,
Why would I hope for “Jbustus” to go down? BTW, the name “jbustus” is unimaginative and stupid. Comedy is hereditary. Give it up.
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:42 pm
raiderkoolaid Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:37 pm
Just because somebody conjectures about why somebody is struggling to do something they have done successfully in the past doesn’t mean you are making excuses for them. Just saying someone sucks without looking for the reason why is intellectually bankrupt.
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Describe “done successfully in the past”?
Isn’t there a degree that describes success?
It’s not mountain climbing. You can fail at Everest 20 times, succeeding on the 21st try, and honestly state you’ve scaled Everest. You were successful.
On the other hand you can serve 20 dishes that make patrons vomit, and then serve one that is the creme’ de creme’..but..alas..you’re still a crap cook.
So..uh..which degree were you hoping to apply here?
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:45 pm
Ricochet, Al Davis wanted a quarterback with his number one pick. He wanted a quarterback with a strong arm. J Russ’s performance in college in ‘06 caught Davis’s eye. Therefore, he earned the top draft spot and has henceforth earned the money, and the house. What do you make, 25k/year? I can see why you’re upset. Probably a bit of a racial thing too, huh?
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:45 pm
mantus Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:12 pm
I think Russell actually made his biggest leap towards being a leader I’ve seen yet. Zach Miller had a poor game, this guy has been Russell’s safety blanket since day one. Russell just proved that he was able to stand on his own two feet and get it done when it mattered.
Now if he could complete a few more passes during the game, he could actually be pretty good.
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OMG … that the funniest post I ever read.
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:46 pm
Thank-you Jerry … great read … the truth is out there.
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:46 pm
Yeah Im a troll because Im dissatisfied with Russells play….ignorant fux!
As much as I’m a Browns fan for saying in 2008 they are going to be good in 2009….you are a ridiculous buffoon!
You, and you, and you, and you!
lol
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:47 pm
Oakglen,
Your act is tired go play with someone else. All you do is come in here and lie through your teeth and talk out your ass….go away!
You act like a child whos mom had to tie a pork chop around your neck just to get the dog to play with you. You are a Sociopath and complete buffoon.
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:49 pm
The Chiefs are already talking about benching Cassell 24 of 39 and 1 TD … WOW … what would they do if they had JaMarcus … cut him?
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:49 pm
Really Alex…….what was so funny?
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:50 pm
lmao @ MR rubbin up on Oakglen hahahahaha!
Priceless
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:51 pm
Mistabrown Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:46 pm
Yeah Im a troll because Im dissatisfied with Russells play…
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This guy is dissatisfied with Jamarcus’ play?? Well, let’s get him a MacArthur Fellowship Genius Grant and put him on the fast track for Rhodes Scholar. What a Tool. But How bout dat Brady Quinn?? He’s looking good. 0-2.
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:51 pm
Trolls 35,
I hear you on the likeliness of Davis screwing things up with Cable. I won’t deny that. While Cable’s here, he has to continue to win under Al’s meddlesome nose, as Gruden did. So far, so good.
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:53 pm
Oakglenn wrote:
“This guy is dissatisfied with Jamarcus’ play?? Well, let’s get him a MacArthur Fellowship Genius Grant and put him on the fast track for Rhodes Scholar. What a Tool.”
LOL!
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:53 pm
After all these posts I have a serious question:
What did Steve Young do for his third game of his third season since JR is the second coming of Steve Young
(Note: Steve Young’s and JR’s games are totally different however JR’s and Ryan Leaf’s and Jeff George’s games are very similar). In fact JR and Kerry Collins games are similar (except Kerry hits over 50% of his passes) and maybe we can go to a Superbowl)
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:54 pm
WOW, I guess the Eagles must’ve been running Al Davis’s defense since Drew Brees pretty much did the same thing against their vaunted defense that he did against our lousy AD scheme.
MistaBrown you still I’m an idiot fo sayig Drew Brees is as good if not better than T Brady and P Manning?
I know this sounds crazy but I’ve been watcing Russell play now for about 5 years and I’ve neer seen him play nearly this poorly. So ‘m going to say he will resume his progression to be one of the better young QB’s in the NFL. This guy completted 68% of his passes in his junior year. And started as freshman in the SEC and played his best ball when the game was on the line.
My guess is Russell is just not comfortable in this offense and the players around him. I’ve said this maybe 20 time already and I’ll sa it again by midseason he’ll start to put it all together and by the final part of the season you’ll him play the way I’ve seen him his junior year. His 3rd year starting will be the year he will he starts to take his place as one of the top QB’s in the game. I’ve never seen him play this poorly for an extended period of time as a pro. So I expet him to snap out of this funk over the next two games and play some good football.
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:54 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:45 pm
Ricochet, Al Davis wanted a quarterback with his number one pick. He wanted a quarterback with a strong arm. J Russ’s performance in college in ‘06 caught Davis’s eye. Therefore, he earned the top draft spot and has henceforth earned the money, and the house. What do you make, 25k/year? I can see why you’re upset. Probably a bit of a racial thing too, huh?
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As usual you babble like a hick from the sticks, making no sense.
Honestly, when do you ever make sense?
THAT IS THE DUMBEST ANALOGY I’VE SEEN HERE THIS WEEK.
Think about what you just posted, and tell me it’s not.
How IN THE HELL DID HE EARN THE TOP SPOT..because “Al wanted him’?? Makes no sense.
Besides, DUMBASS, you stated he EARNED THE HOUSE BECAUSE OF HIS PLAY THIS YEAR…so don’t try and change it to he EARNED THE #1 PICK. (already shredded that stupid angle..so let’s concentrate on your idiot take about his “two 4th quarter drives” that you, in your head up your ass way, believes is all that’s necessary to warrant his salary.
leave the juvenile racist crap and “how much you make” garbage..this isn’t about Russell’s house, it’s about your idiot comment.
I know, I know “WHICH IDIOT COMMENT..THERE ARE SO MANY”
hell, mouse, pick one.
You waffle like a little child, from day to day, and today is no different.
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:54 pm
Alright, I’m out of here. Later, OG. Hey, you know why they really hate Russell…
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:55 pm
Is JaMarcus the highest paid player on the team?
If he is AD should re-do his contract and free up some cap because clearly he is NOT worth the money. All you believers who think he will become the next Peyton … great … paid him the bigs bucks when he does. Right now he is handicaping the team both on the field and the salary cap.
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:55 pm
Raiders were able to outcoach a good play caller. Pretty much same deal, and Orton has less mobility. Game has to be close, because if Denver gets too far ahead, turnovers await.
Again, Defense must set tempo and running game has to get going if any success is to occur next Sunday.
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:55 pm
Ricochet,
Try and follow this.
You have the NFL.
The NFL has a draft.
The first pick of the draft overall commands a high salary, automatic.
Al Davis, the Oakland Raiders, have the first pick.
They pick JaMarcus Russell.
JaMarcus Russell is picked due to his good play at the collegiate level in ‘06, as all draft picks are. What are you saying, that Russell should be the first number one pick ever to make no more than a couple hundred thousand a year, simply because you don’t like him? He was drafted number one, based upon his performance in college, like all draft picks. Hence, he earned the money. Someone was going to be the number one overall pick and get that loot, and it was him. Period. He earned it. If you’re too slow to understand that, then I can’t help you. I’m out of here. Goodnight.
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:56 pm
Some random rookie statistics:
1. Troy Aikman: 1 win, 15 losses
2. Peyton Manning: 3 wins, 13 losses, 26 picks
3. Steve Young: 3TD’s, 8 picks
4. John Elway: 7 TD’s, 14 picks
JaMarcus Russell: 13 TD’s, 8 picks
O.K. – the point of this comparison is NOT to suggest that J-Russ will or will not ever approach hall-of-fame status.
The point is that some of the greatest QB’s to ever play this game struggled early in their careers.
Chill out people.
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:59 pm
mantus Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:49 pm
Really Alex…….what was so funny?
Zach Miller having a bad game … if your QB can get the ball to you … how is it your fault.
Read rotoworld … quote “the Raiders QB is why Zach Miller is not a #4 TE … he #12.” … what does that tell you.
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:59 pm
I’m kinda with Mantus on this one. In the last 4 games the guy has gone 18/25 for 236 yards, 2 Scores and No pix in a comeback win against Houston, Got 17 4th Quarter points to come back against Tampon Bay, had a terrible game but hit a 60 yard bomb to put his team up in the final 2:40 against SD, had another terrible game yet engineered a 70 yard drive in a comeback win IN KC. That’s 3-1 in his last four, all comeback wins. Busts don’t do that.
September 22nd, 2009 at 10:00 pm
Mantus,
There are a lot of perpetual whiners in here, with Richochet being the leader in this category.
That’s just the way it is.
I guess putting your team in the lead when you last touch the ball, 2 weeks in a row, isn’t good enough.
For them, it’s “got to be pretty” in the process.
September 22nd, 2009 at 10:01 pm
Responding to all these JR apologists has made me very negative – here are some things I like about the Raiders this year
1. The coach wants to be here and you can tell
2. The defense has bought in and plays hard and smart for Marshall and has made great progress for so soon in his tenure.
3. Huff is excelling with the new DC
4. The kickers are the best tandem of Kickers the NFL has ever seen Lechler had like a 56 yard average last week and Seabass was unreal.
5. Bush could run over an elephant – I would love to see him as our primary back
6. The OL is run blocking well in spite of teams over stacking the line and showing JR no respect whatsoever.
7. Murphy as a WR is playing well and is often open despite JRs bad play. He is a steal as a 4th round pick.
8. Bryant is playing stong DT play and is learning fast.
September 22nd, 2009 at 10:04 pm
A question for all you fans. When was the last time you saw a Raider game, with them being down late in the fourth, and still have hope for a comeback?
Russell has a lot of work to do, but he gives his team and the fans hope.
September 22nd, 2009 at 10:05 pm
Our defense has been key to this season so far, but I have to wonder after watching them in preseason, how much of this is Seymour’s presence elevating the defense? With a new dc it’s hard to tell which guy has the bigger impact.
September 22nd, 2009 at 10:06 pm
1960,
I agree with all those. These JaMeatball supporters were primarily Rob Ryan supporters as well and Marshall has done wonders in a short time. By midseason they should be very respectable in this new defense. You dont see these fools giving props to the def even after all those 3 and outs!
September 22nd, 2009 at 10:06 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:54 pm
Alright, I’m out of here. Later, OG. Hey, you know why they really hate Russell…
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He’s right on this. I hate it when he’s right.
September 22nd, 2009 at 10:07 pm
Mantus,
There are a lot of perpetual whiners in here, with Richochet being the leader in this category.
That’s just the way it is.
I guess putting your team in the lead when you last touch the ball, 2 weeks in a row, isn’t good enough.
For them, it’s “got to be pretty” in the process.
September 22nd, 2009 at 10:09 pm
Lance was right………
September 22nd, 2009 at 10:10 pm
He gives you hope Mantus he gives others an upset stomach.
We should still beat Denver at home easily, unless those Db’s start holding on to his stray bullets!
When Jerry reported from napa JaMeatloaf struggles in 7 on 7 drills with no contact all you goons said its ok he looked good for 2 games last year….now look at him in a real game!
*puke*
September 22nd, 2009 at 10:12 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:54 pm
Alright, I’m out of here. Later, OG. Hey, you know why they really hate Russell…
RMR
No enlighten me… I don’t hate Russell I want him to succeed but I am sick of people pulling crap like he is just like Steve Young in his rookie year crap. I am being realistic here. He is only completing 35% of his passes even though teams are predominately stacking against the run. Can’t you be honest and admit that JR has a good chance of spoiling what might be a chance for a winning season with his crappy play??? I am so sick of the white / black crap.
Because I wanted AP or CJ at draft time a fews years back and wanted to trade down I was some how a racist. You have got to be kidding me. Note both AP and CJ have dark skin in case anyone is counting – Racism is stupid and so is playing the race card! One race – the human race. Not the color of the skin but the content of the heart is what matters!!!
September 22nd, 2009 at 10:12 pm
Sup fellas. Our QB sucks! …but what’s new?
September 22nd, 2009 at 10:13 pm
SD game was like a superbowl. we lost. hope we have matured enough (seen by last game winning drive against KC) and win against Den. that puts us at 2-1. never been at 2-1 in a lonnggg time.
a flea flicker on very first play of game to DHB would be awesome.
September 22nd, 2009 at 10:14 pm
Let me break this down for some of you. Ummm…..35% sucks whether you’re black, white, green, brown, or purple. Got it? Shove your race card where the sun don’t shine! Tired of that BS!
September 22nd, 2009 at 10:14 pm
I don’t want to start another war but RR at his new digs in Clevland gave up 255 and 186 yards rushing in his first two weeks as DC over there. You have to ask what has changed for Huff since last year. One change is the DC. The defense overall is playing better and Huff is much better.
September 22nd, 2009 at 10:14 pm
Mistabrown:
Dude, this is nothing man. I rooted for Rusty Hildger, Marc Wilson, Jay Schroeder, Jeff George, Rick Myer & a few other disgraces to the quarterback position.
So spare me the drama.
JaMarcus has a much brighter future with us than all those clowns.
Have a little freakin’ patience. It’s not his fault we had 5 losing seasons prior to him getting here.
Relax man.
September 22nd, 2009 at 10:16 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:55 pm
Ricochet,
Try and follow this.
You have the NFL.
The NFL has a draft.
The first pick of the draft overall commands a high salary, automatic.
Al Davis, the Oakland Raiders, have the first pick.
They pick JaMarcus Russell.
JaMarcus Russell is picked due to his good play at the collegiate level in ‘06, as all draft picks are. What are you saying, that Russell should be the first number one pick ever to make no more than a couple hundred thousand a year, simply because you don’t like him? He was drafted number one, based upon his performance in college, like all draft picks. Hence, he earned the money. Someone was going to be the number one overall pick and get that loot, and it was him. Period. He earned it. If you’re too slow to understand that, then I can’t help you. I’m out of here. Goodnight.
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I stand corrected.
On your previous post I stated that was the most ignorant comment I’ve read this week.
You’ve trumped that one with this one.
Pay attention, bonehead.
from YOU: “Nice house. Russell earned it, especially with his play the last two games”
You clear?
You avoided that. Instead you went with something even DUMBER..you are NOW saying because he got PICKED IN THE DRAFT..that he EARNED HIS PAYCHECK??
How in the hell can ANYONE EARN SOMETHING THAT THEY’VE YET TO PERFORM AT?
He didn’t EARN HIS SALARY. you moron.
It’s like saying “Nice house you have Ryan Leaf. You got picked #1. All that guaranteed money. Yes, he EARNED HIS PAYCHECK.”
HE DIDN’T EARN SQUAT, FOOL.
Let me take it one step further.
#7 pick was Bey..got 22 million…NO ON ON THE FREAKING PLANET WOULD STATE “Hey, nice car/house/whatever, Bey..even though you’ve PLAYED LIKE CRAP, BECAUSE AL PICKED YOU, YOU AUTOMATICALLY EARNED YOUR PAYCHECK.
Ignorant take.
Yeah, yeah, I know..everyone says that to you.
You’re used to it by now.
good for you.
September 22nd, 2009 at 10:17 pm
Louis Murphy looks like an absolute 4th round steal, IF he can continue to get better. He is big, is just as fast as DHB, and runs MUCH more polished routes. I don’t know how much credit Marshall should take for Huff’s development. Huff just seems much more decisive out there. It’s one of those things where after a couple of years the “light goes on” and he stops thinking and just goes out and plays a game he has excelled at his whole life. Mike had an excellent game in the National Championship game versus USC so you know he can play at a high level.
September 22nd, 2009 at 10:17 pm
Silver I was there for all those Qb’s even back further.
What does 5 losing years have to with him not being able to execute a screen pass?
September 22nd, 2009 at 10:19 pm
Oakglen, be honest arent you happier posting #285 then lying about what you said or trying to say Im a Browns fan?
Seriously man, you are demented just stick to your koolaid drinking and if you dont mention my name I wont mention yours..
Deal ?
September 22nd, 2009 at 10:19 pm
1960AutumnWind Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 10:12 pm
“No enlighten me… I don’t hate Russell I want him to succeed but I am sick of people pulling crap like he is just like Steve Young in his rookie year crap. I am being realistic here. . . . .”
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You’re sick of people pulling crap like he is just like Steve Young in his rookie year?
Uh. . . .why exactly?
The point is that some of you people have absolutely no patience these days. The dude has played in 22 NFL games. That’s not even a season and a half.
Give me a break man. I don’t care if the dude completes 40% of his passes for an entire career if he becomes a consistent WINNER.
Go look at Jim Plunkett’s career stats.
I’ll tell you right now. They’re not pretty.
But I love Jim Plunkett. He struggled early in his career and became as much a great Raider as there ever was.
Why?
Because he eventually won games.
September 22nd, 2009 at 10:19 pm
i don’t remember Florida ever playing USC for the national championship,but i could be wrong.
September 22nd, 2009 at 10:22 pm
Plunkett got beat to death as a New England Patriot.they had him running the option.
September 22nd, 2009 at 10:22 pm
1960AutumnWind Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 10:12 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:54 pm
Alright, I’m out of here. Later, OG. Hey, you know why they really hate Russell…
RMR
No enlighten me… I don’t hate Russell I want him to succeed but I am sick of people pulling crap like he is just like Steve Young in his rookie year crap. I am being realistic here.
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No. WE’RE being realistic here. Name an overall number one, chosen by that team, who went in his lst two years as a starter and looked like a Hall of Famer. Name one.
September 22nd, 2009 at 10:24 pm
Mistabrown:
The point is consistency. That’s what he doesn’t have right now. He can make ALL the throws. But, he’s not doing that in any consistent fashion right now.
That’s why I keep bringing up guys like S. Young.
Young himself was quoted as saying he credits Bill Walsh for turning him from QB with no accuracy to a really accurate one.
The point is that J-Russ CAN make all the throws. And once the game slows down for him, he won’t look so bad making the simple throws you talk about.
But, the kid’s obviously shown that he has some cool in him at crunch time.
And that’s not a point that should just be dissed aside.
Most QB’s DON’T have that.
Let’s give him until the end of this year and I think we can talk about whether or not he’s progressed enough.
Don’t you think?
September 22nd, 2009 at 10:25 pm
Silver,
Jim Plunkett didnt weigh 290 pounds.
Jim Plunkett was a leader.
Jim Plunkett got beat to death as a 49er when he was young something JaMeatball hasnt experienced..
Jim Plunkett can formulate a sentence using English grammar.
Jim Plunkett only got to play because Pastorini got hurt.
September 22nd, 2009 at 10:29 pm
Silver,
I have not called him a bust, yet! You can comb this blog back as far as you want you wont find it. Im not even saying bench the guy, yet!
I’m just saying it doesn’t look good. It looks awful as Ryan Leaf, Jim Drunkenmiller, A Smith, etc etc
He is going to play the whole year no matter what he does so he has time to put it together but I would draft a Qb next draft in rounds 1-3.
September 22nd, 2009 at 10:30 pm
What does his weight have to do with ANYTHING???
The kid is more mobile than Aikman or Bledsoe ever were in their careers. His mobility is just fine.
Hell, he runs a lot better than Brady does.
Plunkett didn’t become a leader after 22 starts.
What the fiok does getting beat to death when you’re young have to do with whether or not you’ll succeed in the NFL?
Was Montana beat to death? PS – Montana sucked his rookie year and even he said he had no idea what he was doing his first couple of years.
What does good grammar have to do with playing QB?
I don’t get your argument.
September 22nd, 2009 at 10:32 pm
# DKnight007 Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 5:10 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 2:54 pm
Dakota Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 2:47 pm
Jhill
McFadden is getting screwed.
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Nnamdi21 Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 2:43 pm
227. EXACTLY!
http://www.raidernationstation.com/2009_regular_season
“McFadden was misused all day as a decoy out wide and as a battering ram between the tackles where he gained very little yards.”
^^^^^^^Thats why I’m saying the WILDCAT needs to be implemented this next game to keep the Donks defense off balance. DMC is one of the best WILDCAT backs in the game and it’s time Cable and Tollner UNLEASHED DMC and ran him wide off tackle…split him in the slot and get him the freakin ball!
September 22nd, 2009 at 10:32 pm
Steve Young was saying on the National Broadcast that you cannot teach accuracy. Well, lavelle Edwards the coach at BYU DID NOT Want Young as a Q. He insisted Young be a RB, but because Young had some “connections” notably he was a direct decendent of Brigham Young, Lavell relented. And as I said, the proof is in the tape. I watched Young play his first few years in Tampa. He looked awful. He looked good as a runner, but his accuracy was terrible. There is no denying that.
September 22nd, 2009 at 10:33 pm
# Mistabrown Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 10:29 pm
Silver,
I have not called him a bust, yet! You can comb this blog back as far as you want you wont find it. Im not even saying bench the guy, yet!
I’m just saying it doesn’t look good. It looks awful as Ryan Leaf, Jim Drunkenmiller, A Smith, etc etc
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Hey man – I respect your opinion. The reason I just don’t see Ryan Leaf, Jim Drukenmiller in him is that unlike those guys, he’s shown the ability to play in the clutch.
The 4th & 13 play last week with 2 minutes to go.
Those guys NEVER make that throw in that pressure situation, regardless of how open the receiver was.
Last drive against KC, with your O-Lineman doing everything he can to lose the game for you. . . .
Those guys NEVER make the plays to win that game.
Trust me – J-Russ has looked PATHETIC the past two weeks. But I’m not seeing a bust at all.
September 22nd, 2009 at 10:34 pm
Tom Cable ain’t Bill Walsh……
September 22nd, 2009 at 10:34 pm
Alex, I didn’t see your post due to the odd posting pattern in here. Zach had two big gain passes thrown to him in that game. One was a bit high, but the other was in his hands, normally he would have caught both. Miller also had a rare penalty in the final drive. He had a poor game by his standard, but even on his worst day he’s better than 90% of the other te’s in the game. He just wasn’t an option at the end. Everytime I’ve seen Russell under pressure like that he almost always zeroes-in on #80
September 22nd, 2009 at 10:35 pm
# Mistabrown Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 10:25 pm
Silver,
Jim Plunkett didnt weigh 290 pounds.
Jim Plunkett was a leader.
Jim Plunkett got beat to death as a 49er when he was young something JaMeatball hasnt experienced..
Jim Plunkett can formulate a sentence using English grammar.
Jim Plunkett only got to play because Pastorini got hurt.
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This is a really really really dumb post, from a really really really dumb person.
September 22nd, 2009 at 10:35 pm
# 1960AutumnWind Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 10:12 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:54 pm
Alright, I’m out of here. Later, OG. Hey, you know why they really hate Russell…
RMR
No enlighten me… I don’t hate Russell I want him to succeed but I am sick of people pulling crap like he is just like Steve Young in his rookie year crap. I am being realistic here. He is only completing 35% of his passes even though teams are predominately stacking against the run. Can’t you be honest and admit that JR has a good chance of spoiling what might be a chance for a winning season with his crappy play??? I am so sick of the white / black crap.
Because I wanted AP or CJ at draft time a fews years back and wanted to trade down I was some how a racist. You have got to be kidding me. Note both AP and CJ have dark skin in case anyone is counting – Racism is stupid and so is playing the race card! One race – the human race. Not the color of the skin but the content of the heart is what matters!!!
^^^^^^^^Are you denying that racism exists and is prevalent in our messed up society??
Don’t be dumb and naive and suggest that racism in society is just a figment of ones imagination.
September 22nd, 2009 at 10:36 pm
Oakglenn:
I heard Young say the same thing on the Monday Night broadcast.
Funny, especially since he’s the one who credited B. Walsh for making him an accurate passer.
As you mentioned, he sucked his first few years in the league.
September 22nd, 2009 at 10:36 pm
Tom Cable ain’t Bill Walsh……why would anyone compared Walsh/Young to Cable/Russell?
September 22nd, 2009 at 10:38 pm
So my question of the night is:
Will Namdi be allowed to shadow Marshall?
I hope so.
And Chris Johnson vs. Eddy Royal.
Damn, that sounds better than D’Angelo Hall vs. Eddy Royal!!!!!
September 22nd, 2009 at 10:40 pm
# Raidernationdave Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 10:36 pm
Tom Cable ain’t Bill Walsh……why would anyone compared Walsh/Young to Cable/Russell?
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It’s not about a comparison. The point was that accuracy IS something that can be teached and be improved upon over time.
By the way. It’s not Cable/Russell. It’s Hackett/Russell.
And Hackett is as good as it gets when it comes to teaching QB’s.
And that’ll prove to be the case when this is all said and done.
September 22nd, 2009 at 10:43 pm
# raiderkoolaid Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 9:06 pm
If Russel snaps back to the QB he was the last three games last year these struggles he had against KC will be distant memories. After reading what some of the other posters have said and thinking about it for a couple of days I suspect that Hackett is working with him on mechanics that he has never worked on before and he is out there thinking about it instead of just doing it. That would explain how he could have been so bad in mini-camps and also why when at the end of the game and he just rared back and let it go, he suddenly got so much more accurate. I hope that game was a learning experience for him and when he goes to make throws next week he doesn’t think about it. He just does it.
^^^^^^Exactly….just needs to relax, play with confidence and energy and have fun and not think about it so much. Just play and have fun and his consistency will come. The kids has won half the battle with making big plays at the end of games to win the game or to take the lead in games.
Those of you who call yourselves supposed Raider fans who have no other life but to rip Russell each and everyday of your miserable life, should be supporting him to get better and not look to chop his head off every week. Thats a real Raider fan! If you root for him to fail….then that means you want the team to fail as well. So are you really a Raider fan or some Whiner, Donkey, or Dolt Discharger fan??
September 22nd, 2009 at 10:43 pm
absolutely racism exists in our society,but that isn’t the reason for the criticism of JR.its the 30 something % completion percentage in the 1st 2 games.not acknowledging that is wrong.
September 22nd, 2009 at 10:52 pm
i should have said it is just as wrong as saying he has started the season bad because of his race.his race doesn’t have a thing to do with missing wide open receivers.J.George was the stupidest QB i’ve ever seen play the position-is that a racist comment?
September 22nd, 2009 at 10:54 pm
When is the new QB coach going to get called out!!…. If Russell SUCKS ASS!!…..I’m pretty sure the stupid QB coach must suck ass as well!!
Who is it???
Is it HACKETT!!!
He SUCKS BALLS TOO!!
I cant believe how much Russell has digressed from last season to now!!
The Qb coach last yr was a lot better!!
September 22nd, 2009 at 11:00 pm
# lefty12 Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 10:43 pm
absolutely racism exists in our society,but that isn’t the reason for the criticism of JR.its the 30 something % completion percentage in the 1st 2 games.not acknowledging that is wrong.
^^^^^^Uh…people have been looking for any reason to rip Russell as soon as he was drafted. Did Stafford, Alex Smith, David Carr, Eli receive the same amount of critic and negativity right off the bat?? Well maybe Eli did…because there are crap load of Manning haters out there.
30% is crappy…without a doubt, but lets see Cable and Turner call more high percentage plays to get Russell in a rythem early instead of calling over 50% of deep balls and touch passes.
September 22nd, 2009 at 11:04 pm
# lefty12 Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 10:52 pm
i should have said it is just as wrong as saying he has started the season bad because of his race.his race doesn’t have a thing to do with missing wide open receivers.J.George was the stupidest QB i’ve ever seen play the position-is that a racist comment?
^^^^^^^Unfortunately I have heard fellow Raider fans say racist comments about Russell during games when he doesn’t complete a pass or throws an INT.
EVERY game….I wonder how many more Raider fans out there say racist comments when he doesn’t do well?
September 22nd, 2009 at 11:07 pm
# DKnight007 Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 11:00 pm
# lefty12 Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 10:43 pm
absolutely racism exists in our society,but that isn’t the reason for the criticism of JR.its the 30 something % completion percentage in the 1st 2 games.not acknowledging that is wrong.
^^^^^^Uh…people have been looking for any reason to rip Russell as soon as he was drafted. Did Stafford, Alex Smith, David Carr, Eli receive the same amount of critic and negativity right off the bat?? Well maybe Eli did…because there are crap load of Manning haters out there.
30% is crappy…without a doubt, but lets see Cable and Turner call more high percentage plays to get Russell in a rythem early instead of calling over 50% of deep balls and touch passes.
^^^^^^^Cable and Tollner I mean…..
September 22nd, 2009 at 11:08 pm
There two things that I hate:
People who are intolerant of other peoples culture, and–the Dutch.
Wisdom for those with understanding.
September 22nd, 2009 at 11:08 pm
Who are these people that have been looking for any reason to rip Russell? I, for one, was excited at his potential when we drafted him. Even gave him a pass last year. But it’s time that he starts showing us something. Throwing a screen pass straight into the grass is unacceptable for any QB.
Heck, I still hope he turns it around. Does it mean I have to be happy with him missing wide-open receivers and boinking screen passes? He11 no! He should be making those throws!
I get no joy from Russell f’ing up. If he improves, he11 yes I’ll be ecstatic.
September 22nd, 2009 at 11:10 pm
If Russell alone starts costing this team wins in the next couple of games with bad accuracy and or bad INTS….then Gradkowski needs to be put in.
Don’t understand why Garcia was released but whatever….
September 22nd, 2009 at 11:17 pm
The Raider defense has given up only 1 touchdown in the first 3 qrtrs, between both games combined.
The reason the for the team being behind is the quarterback.
Mr. Russell needs to understand that, he needs to step up.
He needs to look one way then look the other and fire (without thinking about it) the football between the numbers, he needs to trust his WRs to be there.
September 22nd, 2009 at 11:18 pm
Garcia requested to be released after realizing that he did not win the starting QB position.
He sucks too!!
I prefer Gradkowski!!
September 22nd, 2009 at 11:19 pm
It’s nice to have a clutch player.
September 22nd, 2009 at 11:20 pm
think how much nicer it will be if/when he becomes consistent!
September 22nd, 2009 at 11:30 pm
# The NEWS Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 11:08 pm
Who are these people that have been looking for any reason to rip Russell?
^^^^^^^You haven’t been on these boards long have you?
Like I said….I hope he turns it around and he better. If he ALONE costs the team wins with bad accuracy or INTS that cost wins…..bring in Gradkowski. They also need to draft Locker or Clausen next year or the following.
September 22nd, 2009 at 11:41 pm
One thing is playing KC and mounting a winning 4th qtr drive. When we play the Giants in NY or the Jets we are going to get the sh_t kicked out of us. Although I like to dream and imagine a drink kool-aid. It’d be sweet to somehow beat the Giants.
September 22nd, 2009 at 11:41 pm
Locker would be a GREAT pick for the Raiders!!
That dude is so underated!!
September 22nd, 2009 at 11:44 pm
The only thing we have going for us in that game is the Giants usually don’t play as well at home. But unless the coaching staff is hiding something, we will more than likely lose that one.
September 22nd, 2009 at 11:50 pm
Clausen sucksballs!
I prefer Locker!!
September 22nd, 2009 at 11:51 pm
Wow….. I remember us beating denver in 2008… but you’re right we got our asses handed to us in the first game of the season last yr during the Kiffen fiasco!!!
September 22nd, 2009 at 11:52 pm
Our focus must be on the Denver Broncos.
They are 2-0, a Raider victory would bring us to at least a tie in the division at 2-1, also same record within the division.
Our defense is capable of shutting out Denver.
We will have to run and not give up on the run.
We will need to put pressure on Orton.
We are home and we have not won a home division game since December 2, 2007 (vs. Denver 34-20).
September 22nd, 2009 at 11:53 pm
If we dont turn the ball over we win!
Thats why Denver was won their two games… no turn overs…..And thats why we beat the sorry chiefs…NO TURN OVERS!!
September 23rd, 2009 at 12:24 am
Look, Russell is a much better QB than he has shown this year. I can definiely gaurantee that. I think as someone said earlier he has shown great ability late in game wen did AW or any other QB we’ve had in the last 6 years shown that?
It’s not a magic trick, when theame is on the line he is a very different player which shows that the ability IS there. It’s simply a matter of him demonstrating again that he can do it more consistently. And let’s be honest he’s done it before. He can do it again and he will………period.
So I’m expecting to see in the next two game to see Russell regain his balance. People can bring up all the names of the previous BUST all they want his name in not in there. His name will go on the list that he determines by his play and no one knows exactly what that is YET to be determined.
Stay tuned! greatness is in his future. That’s my opinion.
September 23rd, 2009 at 1:33 am
Autumnwind1960,
Most black people in America feel that racism is still a serious issue in America. So you can’t be all for ending racism, while in the same breath shunning the grievances of black people regarding racism and summing them up to be nothing more than whining and/or “pulling the race card”. Denying racism exists is a form of racism in and of itself. I’ll bet you, Mr. “let’s just stop talking about race and it will go away”, that you have no complaints whatsoever when people like Glen Beck and Rush Limbaugh insist that black people are the real racists today, and that white people are the real victims, and blah blah. A race war has taken place in this country since its inception. It’s not necessarily a violent war, anymore. And the reason for this is only because one side has control of the military, police, and the distribution of food, energy and other vital resources, and the other side has grown too exhausted to try to do anything about it. Like all wars, peace is a negotiation, agreed upon by both sides. When did that negotiation take place? Sure. There’s a peace accord between black and white America, but there is only one signature on the accord, and that’s because the conditions of the treaty favor only one side. The other side gets the worst economic conditions, the worst treatment by the justice system, and the worst education. For a white person to say that racism is no longer a serious issue in America, he must speak for black people in doing so. I hope that white person has at least lived in an impoverished environment with a significant black population. It’s a pretty bold position to take from a rural farm or a nice suburban tri level.
You’re sick of the race card, AW. Are you sick of racial profiling? If you’re not equally as disgusted with racial profiling by law enforcement as you are with black people playing the race card, then it’s not the race card you’re really sick of. It’s the race that’s pulling the card. And, that would make you a racist.
September 23rd, 2009 at 1:35 am
Oh, and I’m buying my Russell jersey this week.
Raiders 24
Broncos 14
September 23rd, 2009 at 3:11 am
HEY ..Terry Bradshaw was stupid, but he won 4 Super Bowls.
Hollywood Henderson said…”Bradshaw is so dumb, he couldn’t spell CAT if you spotted him the C and A” lol
September 23rd, 2009 at 3:18 am
I’m starting to become a huge JaMarcus fan.
With all the garbage he has to listen to about him being dumb and the rest of the crap, the guy is ice cold cool and says…”hey, we got this, baby” and wins in the clutch.
That is a leader! And he’s only 23 years old.
AND FIX THIS SITE, Jerry! It’s killing me.
September 23rd, 2009 at 4:07 am
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September 23rd, 2009 at 4:16 am
Good Morning NATION!!!
LMFAO Dakota!!!
Dakota Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 4:04 pm
Drray:
http://shop2.aol.ca/ss/media/11190000/11190927.jpg
September 23rd, 2009 at 5:33 am
I don’t know Nomorefargas, im pulling for Russell as well he will get better. Though I truly believe that cable is making a huge mistake not playing walker he’s being an ass just like last year when he kept playing Kwame Harris, put the people on the fi3eld that can help the team!!! I believe walker can do that. Cable needs to take the salchicha out his hiney and make the move
September 23rd, 2009 at 5:33 am
Poor Russell having to listen to fans and media complain wait how much was his signing bonus and didn’t he miss his very first training camp and is year behind because of his own fault, Im pulling for him but spare me this bs go look at Phill Simms early in his carrer the Meadowlands is so loud with boo’s and Parcels in his grill yet guy got good. I was so happy we won but man the Chiefs are awful and what the hell was Walker doing on that punt?
September 23rd, 2009 at 5:36 am
Morning OAKlifer…
Glad you are OK and not in jail or anything like that =)
September 23rd, 2009 at 5:38 am
Morning AM crew!!
Long time no see…..
This is very hard spot to be in check my record I am a HUGE Jruss fan but WOW does he look bad on easy nfl throws,,,,I was watching Matty ice play the other day and he makes all the throws not just the deep or easy ones…At LSU Jruss had alot of weapons “Bowe” but this is the NFl you should be able to throw a sideline oute or hit a open TE in the post…This is scary…We cant just throw 65 yrds every time.
My question is this will he imprve enought to lead us to the promise land??
As of now my awnser is no. Untill I see him make routine throws with ease im a new skeptic.
September 23rd, 2009 at 5:38 am
im too pretty for jail…LOL
Im good brother just been a little busy! Love the W on sunday but it was almost a real BAD loss……
September 23rd, 2009 at 5:46 am
OAKlifer the site is still messed up so scroll up 2C my post
September 23rd, 2009 at 5:47 am
but growing pains would be sacks ints and the occasional bad throw this guy does not complete a pass to a WR untill the 4th Q almost everyt week he is missinf VERY bad on easy throws.. And when I watch Ryan or Flacco I just wonder how good we could be if our QB could make easy NFL throws.
On a good note
Eliis 10 sacks!!!!
Top 15 Defense!!!!!
Just a little koolaid for the faithfull!!
September 23rd, 2009 at 5:47 am
OH another Debra LaFavre IC
September 23rd, 2009 at 5:49 am
Yep a “W” is a “W” no matter how you slice it!!!
Jmac will be alright…growing pains,imo
September 23rd, 2009 at 5:57 am
Someone posted yesterday that Jmac is soo afraid 2 make a turn-over he just throws the ball away…But when there is very little time left and they must score,well they score
September 23rd, 2009 at 5:57 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Well, Russell has to get better…no if, and or buts about it!!!
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:15 am
Russell will get better….the difference from this year and last, last year we got him out of the pocket way more than this year, and I think we need to get him out of the pocket this year on roll outs and naked boots. Just restricting him as a drop back passer is not playing to his strength imo. He’s pretty nimble for such a big guy we should be more creative like we were last year.
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:17 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S. HWNDR,4EVA ,OAKLIFER,WHERE U BEEN MAN ? NOMOREFARGAS,ALL THE USUAL SUSPECT’S. IF MR. RUSSELL IS A TRUE NFL QB,HE WILL TAKE THE HEAT FROM FAN’S AND MEDIA AND USE IT AS MOTIVATION 2 GET BETTER AND HOPEFULLY BECOME GREAT.IF HE SHRINK’S UNDER THE PRESSURE, TAKES HIS MONEY AND RUN’S, SO BE IT AND GOOD RIDENCE. MENTAL TOUGHNESS IS A PART OF THE QB POSITION AT THIS LEVEL.IMO HE WILL GET BETTER, JUST HOPE IT IS SOONER THAN LATER…
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:21 am
Me2 Dirt-Lot Me2
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:22 am
Good morning Nation the only Nation
True Russell needs to improve but we cant act like he doesnt know this. These players put so much pressure on themselves to succeed they want to be good. Look at Merriman he has no chance of being better now without the juice. Russell is an athlete wich means he can learn and practice to make himself better. Merriman is a roided out freak that made him an athlete, without the juice he is just another man.
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:23 am
GOOD POINT R8DR4LFE21, THAT IS WHERE COACHING SHOULD BE HELPING HIS PROGRESS IMO.
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:23 am
This is a great article, makes a lot of sense and it’s kinda what a lot of us that are not dogging our QB have been saying for a while.
There is no doubt that the loss of Chaz Schilens was a huge blow to the Oakland Raiders. But it seems as though his loss is lost when factoring in the play of the top overall pick from the 2007 NFL draft, JaMarcus Russell.
I have heard many people say that JaMarcus Russell can’t hit the broad side of a barn if it was 10 feet away. I have heard nobody say that perhaps these rookie wide receivers are not seeing the field the same way as the third year pro quarterback.
What are the odds? Well, actually, the odds are good because when things aren’t going right, you blame the coach, and you blame the quarterback. You do not blame the wide receivers, even if they are both rookies, right?
Look at people in Dallas, and for that matter across the country, who are calling for Tony Romo’s head. Is Romo throwing to rookie wideouts? No, but his team is losing, and that makes him look as bad as the signal caller.
Chaz is an impact player. His abilities are unmatched on the roster in Oakland. DHB is not someone who JaMarcus can put his full confidence in. Louis Murphy may be helped out by the fact that he attended JaMarcus’ private workout in Alabama. Still, he is new to the quarterback.
Coach Cable does not yet have full confidence in Javon Walker. Johnnie Lee Higgins was hurt last game, and was thrown to five times in the San Diego game, resulting in zero catches.
Zach Miller is a reliable pass catcher. JaMarcus Russell knows if he puts it anywhere near this guy, he is going to make a play on the ball, and will likely catch it. Zach Miller is an impact player.
Chaz Schilens made a spectacular play on a ball that was severely underthrown in the first preseason game of 2009. His play at the ball was so convincing that he garnered a pass interference call in his favor. Chaz Schilens is an impact player.
I did a breakdown in response to a comment on someone else’s article. I said if you say that the receivers dropped three balls which should’ve been caught, then JaMarcus’ stats in the San Diego game would’ve been 15-30. Those three drops are two by DHB, and one by DMC that was a little high, but should’ve been caught.
If you subtract the last interception on the Hail Mary, they would be 15-29. Now, you add the questionable Louis Murphy touchdown pass, which was thrown right on the money. 16-29.
Many people have said that the first interception of that game was a poor route ran by Louis Murphy. So, let us subtract that pass as well. 16-28, which is 57.1 percent with 227 yards and two touchdowns.
Lots of if’s, I know, but maybe it was not entirely on the quarterback. Again, if Louis ran the route wrong on that play, who is to say that more routes weren’t run wrong?
In the KC game, part of the Chiefs’ game plan was to take away Zach Miller. Miller said, “They were paying extra attention to me, a little bit of bracket coverage, making sure a guy was trying to jam me or wall me, that kind of thing. They made sure that I wasn’t too involved.”
Why? Because they know that it is crazy to start two rookie wide receivers. Nobody has ever done it before. And who takes the blame when the passing game suffers? The quarterback does.
So what happens when Schilens comes back, and the defense pays extra attention to Zach Miller?
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:25 am
Jmac must read these things because the post that DownTheBayMog posted,Jmac came on by himself and asked the NATION 2 have patience…We will get there.He was very sincere and if you watch it you will feel the same way,imo
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:27 am
His getting better has to start on Sunday! Are you going, Dirt Lot?
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:27 am
Morning Nation,
Money is puring in on the Broncos and the odds have dropped to 1 pt or pick em.
The Donkeys face after the Raiders:
Dallas L
New England L
S.D. L
Baltimore L
Pitts L
Wash W
N.Y. Giants L
K.C. W
Indy L
I got them 4-8 after this gauntlet.
Naturally I pick da Raiders this Sunday!
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:29 am
that’s pouring
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:29 am
Part 2 from the previous article:
What will happen when Louis Murphy can be the third or fourth option in the passing game instead of the first or second? What happens when the team worries about two impact players instead of one who is a tight end?
How much is the injury of Chaz Schilens affecting the passing game? I say he is the difference btween 35 percent and 60 percent completions. I say that Chaz adds a whole different element to the passing game.
I say that Chaz Schilens is a more experienced wide receiver who knows how to read coverage’s better than two rookies. He knows how to find lanes for JaMarcus to throw the ball. He knows how to re-direct his route to get in open spaces.
He knows how to get into a position to fight for the ball. JaMarcus Russell knows he can count on the big receiver. He knows if Miller is covered, then Schilens is another option…another element.
Chaz Schilens will impact the passing game tremendously. Until his return, unfortunately Raider Nation, you will have to suffer the growing pains of a developing passing game, instead of a passing game that can have an impact on a game.
The good news is that while the passing game struggles, the running game and the defense should keep us in a good position. JaMarcus has lead two consecutive touchdown drives with less than three minutes left in both of the first two games.
The last time a Raiders quarterback led a touchdown drive with less than three minutes to play was Kerry Collins in 2005. The raiders lost the game on a last second Larry Johnson touchdown run.
Before the last two games this year, it has been done that one time in the last 128 games. Take a minute to swallow that pill, and then tell me if you still think JaMarcus is a bust
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:30 am
WILL MISS SUNDAY’S GAME HWNDR, HEALTH ISSUE’S.U GUY’S GIVE ‘EM HELL , DO NOT LET KYLE ORTON AND CREW HERE A DAMN THING..
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:31 am
I think Russell has shown mental toughness already just look at his performance in the clutch… he need s to put together a complete game which he will do, but he better watch out because chump bailey is pretty good, we will need walker because he played against him
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:36 am
Get Better Dirt-Lot!!!
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:45 am
Post 355 and 360 run together it is a 2 part article.
I think it speaks volumes for this team and where were headed. Look at the facts, if Rivers had thrown that ball at Warren 2 years ago at his head, what would have happened? retaliation off setting penalties. We are playing with more poise as a team, we are picking up the slack for the struggles in other areas instead of pointing fingers. I will take Nnamdi and Seymours word over any media reporter, in that they say Jmac will be great.
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:54 am
So what is the reason Crabtree hasnt signed?
some say money, others me included say he doesnt want to be on a team with no QB and is strictly a running Offense, wich means he will be blocking and not getting stats, wich means no extra insentives on his contract.
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:55 am
Hope you get better, Dirt Lot!!! No worry, we will give him hell!!!
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:58 am
DENVER FAN’S DAM NEAR RAN/ BOO’D JOHN ELWAY (MR. ED)OUT OF DENVER HIS FIRST 3 YRS IN THE LEAGUE. WAS NOT UNTIL THAT 98 YD DRIVE AGAINST CLEVELAND IN AFC CHAMP GAME IN 86 I THINK OR 87 THAT WAS ANOINTED THE GREAT ELWAY..
September 23rd, 2009 at 7:04 am
Some people just dont realize these things take time.Rome wasnt built in a day,would have been if I was there tho LOL
September 23rd, 2009 at 7:07 am
Yeah, but I think Crabtree is an idiot for not taking the offer. I mean come on now…You have nothing, and you turn down 16 million guarantee? Wow!!! Who is he that he is standing pat on the offer because he feels that he should have been taken higher? Give me a break! This is the thing that killed football…its no longer a sport, but a business…and everyone is greedy these days!
September 23rd, 2009 at 7:10 am
I AM WITH U 4EVA, WE NEED THIS JOB DONE FAST AND CORRECT THE FIRST TIME. 4EVA 4 GM. WHERE DO I SIGN ?
September 23rd, 2009 at 7:11 am
Yep Hwnrdr ANY of us little folk would jump over a tall building in a single bound 4 that kind of money,imo
September 23rd, 2009 at 7:13 am
I’d be in over my head Dirt-Lot but you can damn sure believe I would work my fingers 2 da bone 4 the organization and da NATION or DIE TRYING
September 23rd, 2009 at 7:16 am
I believe that if Russell starts off the way he did last week, it may be a long day at the Coliseum! I have faith though…this WILL be the game! And when Chaz gets back…sky is the limit!!!
September 23rd, 2009 at 7:19 am
Arrowhead is prolly THEE hardest place in the world 2 play.Jmac will start hot and stay hot,imo.That game HAD 2 do wonders 4 his confidance,imo.2 me that was a very very hard game and Jmac took us down and won it.Did we get lucky???Hell yeah we got lucky with those almost interceptions but I will take luck ANY day and use it as a building block =)
September 23rd, 2009 at 7:25 am
that is the key I agree Hwnrdr.On offence we got lucky we didnt get intercepted…On defence that was ALL SKILL BY HUFF BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 23rd, 2009 at 7:30 am
The key there 4eva, is that Russell almost got picked off, and a pick 6, but Cassell did get picked off!!!
September 23rd, 2009 at 7:31 am
hwnrdr Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 7:07 am
Yeah, but I think Crabtree is an idiot for not taking the offer. I mean come on now…You have nothing, and you turn down 16 million guarantee? Wow!!! Who is he that he is standing pat on the offer because he feels that he should have been taken higher? Give me a break! This is the thing that killed football…its no longer a sport, but a business…and everyone is greedy these days!
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Dont get it twisted it is a Business, and should be ran like one…
September 23rd, 2009 at 7:38 am
I said it B4 and I will say it again…
BIG BIG BIG BIG BIG BIG BIG BIG WINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
Now since Jmac see’s he can win in the pressure-cooker known as Arrowhead stadium,he knows he can win anytime anywhere…
Lets STOMP the donkeys!!!
September 23rd, 2009 at 7:39 am
damn it fix this stuff jerry
September 23rd, 2009 at 7:41 am
Louis Murphy is BADASS…….
Cut walker, or trade him to detroit for detriots 3rd in 2015, and a bag of rocks…
I am going to ride with JRUSS, hoping he can and will pull it togather….
September 23rd, 2009 at 7:42 am
what is th ETA on Chillens return….
good takes, he is going to have an impact on the passing game.
September 23rd, 2009 at 7:42 am
morning all.
September 23rd, 2009 at 7:47 am
I wouldn’t bet on Chaz coming back anytime soon.Footballers over here have taken months to get over the same injury.I know it’s a different dynamic and a different sport but remember Chaz wasn’t hit,he did this running by himself.
September 23rd, 2009 at 7:49 am
Morning Thec
That would make the trade 4 Walker…that bag of rocks!!!
September 23rd, 2009 at 7:51 am
Javon Walker will be comeback player of the year.
just ask AZ, the Kool-Aide Pimp
September 23rd, 2009 at 7:53 am
You must be very busy at work lately Rockstar…you dont post as much it seems,they must have doubled your work-load…You got a promotion maybe???
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:00 am
I don’t expect Chaz Schilens back at 100 percent until Week 6 – at home against Philly
the man just got out of a boot a few days ago!
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:02 am
Whats up Rockstar?!
Yeah, I agree…Chaz will be back against Philly at 100%! That is probably when we really need him (well, maybe against the Giants in week 5).
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:05 am
Mornin’ folks!
The Raiders beat the dogg snot out of the Donkeys on Sunday, Dodgers running away with the divsion, and the Lakers open training camp on Tuesday.
This is going to be a GREAT sports week!
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:13 am
4eva, What up Bro??? How is the FF league going?
Yeah, we need to continue to soldier without chillens.
No reason why DMAC and bush cant be on the field at the same time on offense.
We are using 80% of the play book? Wonder what the other 20% is could it be the WC? more gadgetry???
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:16 am
Good article 21 …
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:17 am
Thec…
What you guys in calli call “X” we here in florida call em beans,you bunch of thizzers!!!
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:18 am
Chillens boot is off great throw him on the field now…. Just kidding if it takes him till week whatever to get 100% healed i am okay with it.
Murphy is BADASS….
DHB is on the rise…..
DMAC should never leave the field….
ZMILL, what, you dont know….
MBUSH, Should never leave the field….
JRUSS is going to show a big improvement over last 2 games. Sept 27th i expect the Raiders to be tied for first place, 2-1 in the division.
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:20 am
I think AZ got banned because word-press got under his skin and he said …
I dont care if you ban me fix this _ _ _ _ _ _ up site and they prolly did.I could be wrong tho
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:20 am
scroll up thec
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:21 am
4evaRaider Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 7:49 am
Morning Thec
That would make the trade 4 Walker…that bag of rocks!!!
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rocks, magic beans, bridge that you own….
If he doesnt contribute get him the F out…..
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:22 am
Yeah what is up with AZ, havent seen him around in a while….
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:23 am
word-press scroll up Thec
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:29 am
# Oakglenn Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 10:35 pm
This is a really really really dumb post, from a really really really dumb person.
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# Oakglenn Says:
June 8th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
Mark Sanchez is a bust. Now we won’t know that for three years, but I know now. That makes no sense. Unless, you’re a moron.
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# Oakglenn Says:
June 5th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
Alston is a savvy guy. He should play well for us.
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# Oakglenn Says:
June 8th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
Mark Sanchez is a bust. Now we won’t know that for three years, but I know now. That makes no sense. Unless, you’re a moron.
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September 23rd, 2009 at 8:30 am
Did you read the article you are commenting on Russell is doing the last minute drives yea he needs work it will come hopefully we have needed a QB for years and AL took a chance on Russell we could have got Lienert,Young,Brady,Cutler,Smith,Rodgers all top picks when we were at top of draft order. Those other guys havent completely lit it up We could have Brooks,Walter,Tui,Mcnown,Culpepper ect. What you want?
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:32 am
“JRUSS is going to show a big improvement over last 2 games. Sept 27th i expect the Raiders to be tied for first place, 2-1 in the division.”
HUH
1-2 more like it 
Jruss 
first QB in history to have less than 25% completion ration in history of NFL after 3 games 
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:32 am
But who will score it Jhill????
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:32 am
good morning Hwnrdr, 4eva & others
no promotion yet, but today is my annual review. friday and yesterday were crazy busy.
I was here Monday, not sure if it was AM or PM?
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:35 am
This defense will not give up more than 10 pts to Orton. He might get shut out!
20-3 Raiders! Defense scores it’s first TD of the season!
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:41 am
4evaRaider Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:17 am
Thec…
What you guys in calli call “X” we here in florida call em beans,you bunch of thizzers!!!
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ROFLMAO…… Thats unfair Bro, I am in my office almost spit coffee all over the keyboard….
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:43 am
Trolls 35 Raiders 0 Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:32 am
“JRUSS is going to show a big improvement over last 2 games. Sept 27th i expect the Raiders to be tied for first place, 2-1 in the division.”
HUH 1-2 more like it Jruss first QB in history to have less than 25% completion ration in history of NFL after 3 games
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What up troll,
Care to put your money up? I will put up 5 C notes we beat denver straight up….
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:44 am
Rockstar…
Put that promotion in the bank,as I’m sure you got it Bro!!!
Thec…
Sorry Bro =)
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:46 am
You are up Happy Troll
Whats it gonna be????
Master Thec has called you out…lets see just what kind of Troll you are.(I must say you’re the best troll on this site)
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:47 am
4eva,
Defense and special teams will give us the field position to score 2 FGs.
The running game will get us down the field for a TD with a few passes mixed in from JRuss. I mean, there is no way he can play as bad as he did Sunday, right?
Defense scores it’s first TD of the year when CJ takes one back to the house!
There’s your 20 pts, you heard it hear first!
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:47 am
jhill Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:35 am
This defense will not give up more than 10 pts to Orton. He might get shut out!
20-3 Raiders! Defense scores it’s first TD of the season!
B-I-N-G-O
Broncos 10-0 
JR 
comletes 3 of 21 passes 
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:48 am
Troll 35 you do paypal??? Put up 5 C notes, we can do the payment through paypal….
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:49 am
Mayb 10-7 if :/: D
scores 1st TD of season 
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:49 am
LOL,
Has anyone actually paid up on a bet from this site yet?
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:50 am
I like it Jhill!!!
Here’s mine…
The donkeys will be pined deep in their own end-zone by a BOOMING 56 yard punt by Lechler.Defence stops them 4 no gain on 1st and 10.On 2nd down Ricky Brown takes it 2da house from the 17 yard-line!!!!This happens early in the 2nd quarter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:51 am
I expect this team to win. This is an improbable season for the raiders, in spite of all the obstacles we will win games, I am of the opinion we will win the division, I am 100% convinced of this…
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:52 am
Thec07 Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:55 am
Troll 35, Last call homie… You win I put 5 C’s in your paypal account, you lose you return the favor…
Put up or shut up….
Money talks……. you know the rest….
Hmmm….:?: it may well be worth it to open a paypal account
Betting against the only QB 
in the NFL completing less than 50% of his 
passes would be like stealing candy from a baby 
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:53 am
jhill Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:49 am
LOL,
Has anyone actually paid up on a bet from this site yet?
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Actually yes…. I won an authentic DMAC Black XXXL Jersey from one of the fans on the blog. the bet was we take DMAC or i beleive long. He lost he sent the Jersey via UPS, not a falke knock off a real authentic…
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:54 am
Defense & Special Teams are going to have to dominate the Dungver game if Russell doesn’t turn it around quickly.
I’m sure they will be focused on stopping our running game & TE Zach Miller on passing plays, as KC did.
When you are predictable on offense, even a sucky defense like KC has can stop you.
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:55 am
“JaMarcus Russell: 14-21, 200 yards with 2 TDs
McFadden and Bush combine for 190 yards rushing.”
JR
3-21 more likely 
RB’s 
combine for 19 yards a better scenario 
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:55 am
Troll 35, Last call homie… You win I put 5 C’s in your paypal account, you lose you return the favor…
Put up or shut up….
Money talks……. you know the rest….
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:57 am
Denver held the Browns to 46 yards on 17 carries (2.7 ypc) last week.
they held the Bengals to 82 yards on 23 carries (3.5 ypc) in Week 1.
it’s no lock we’ll be able to dominate with McFadden & Bush on the ground and only 10-15 passes from Russell
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:57 am
Pop quiz…Which QB said the following:
“It’s very disappointing. I think our team played some really good football and I think that my mistakes put us in a hole. … I really cost us.”
I think if JR manned up like this, a lot of fans that are being critical would be much more supportive.
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:58 am
“The situation I described above _ a touchdown drive to put the trailing Raiders ahead with less than three minutes to play _ happened exactly once in 128 games from 2001 through 2008. Russell has done it in back-to-back weeks.”
Chew on that for a second all you who are ready to bench the guy.
Prediction for this week:
Raiders 27, Broncos 13
JaMarcus Russell: 14-21, 200 yards with 2 TDs
McFadden and Bush combine for 190 yards rushing.
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:00 am
4evaRaider Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:50 am
I like it Jhill!!!
Here’s mine…
The donkeys will be pined deep in their own end-zone by a BOOMING 56 yard punt by Lechler.Defence stops them 4 no gain on 1st and 10.On 2nd down Ricky Brown takes it 2da house from the 17 yard-line!!!!This happens early in the 2nd quarter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:01 am
Trolls 35 Raiders 0 Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:52 am
Thec07 Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:55 am
Troll 35, Last call homie… You win I put 5 C’s in your paypal account, you lose you return the favor…
Put up or shut up….
Money talks……. you know the rest….
Hmmm….:?: it may well be worth it to open a paypal account Betting against the only QB in the NFL completing less than 50% of his passes would be like stealing candy from a baby
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So does that mean we have a bet???????
5 C notes…..
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:04 am
where oh where can Happy Troll be???
Oh where oh where can he be????????
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:05 am
Ok .. Thec!
That’s good to know.
Mista, didn’t you bet someone opening night? How did that turn out?
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:06 am
games against San Diego & Kansas City were both dogfights. I expect Denver to be much the same.
Raiders win 10-7.
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:07 am
answer…
Tony Romo
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:08 am
4evaRaider Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:50 am
I like it Jhill!!!
Here’s mine…
The donkeys (THE BRONCOS)
will be pined (THE PINE IS WHERE JR 
WILL BE BY HALFTIME) 
deep in their own end-zone (JR 
WILL HAVE AL DAVIS DEEP IN HIS END-ZONE BY THAT TIME 
by a BOOMING 56 yard punt by Lechler.Defence stops them 4 no gain on 1st and 10.On 2nd down Ricky Brown takes it 2da house from the 17 yard-line!!!!This happens early in the 2nd quarter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
nice dream 
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:08 am
Orton isn’t terrible, but he’s not the threat that Rivers is and he’s not as good as Cassel either. If the D plays like it did in the first two weeks I could see them forcing at least 3 turnovers.
Pick No. 4 for Huff?
Been awhile since T-Howard brought one back to the house. He could be due.
I think we run the ball very effectively and JaMarcus hits a few big gainers off of play action.
It could be close to time to cutting Walker and bumping Holland up from the practice squad. Sounds like Walker has a good attitude this season and he’s the veteran of that group. But has he even gotten open enough to have a ball thrown in his direction since he returned during the preseason? I suppose Walker gets another week or three to get rid of the rust, but it might make more sense to give the young guy who flashed exciting ability in preseason a chance at some point soon.
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:08 am
What we need from Russ:
Russ has to throw for at least 225 yards 55% completion and 3td drives.
If not, he should be benched.
This is coming from a Jruss supporter. He should not have a 7 for 24 night in his 2nd year as a starter.
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:10 am
Chris in NY:
Javon Walker was inactive in Week 1. He was only in for a handful of plays in Week 2. I don’t think Russell even threw to him once. If he did, it was way off and you can’t blame him for that. Javon is a polished route runner and has reliable hands.
Whether he has the speed to play WR in the NFL after 4 knee operations is another story. If he can’t get seperation, he’s pretty much useless out there. I think that explains why Todd Watkins has a bigger role than he does at this point.
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:12 am
So does that mean we have a bet???????
5 C notes…..
I
will see if I can open a papypal account 
With your QB this will be a sucker bet 
Maybe I should be concerned 
with his 
cannon arm 
NOT 
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:14 am
McRaider5150 Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:08 am
What we need from Russ:
Russ has to throw for at least 225 yards 55% completion and 3td drives.
If not, he should be benched.
This is coming from a Jruss supporter. He should not have a 7 for 24 night in his 2nd year as a starter.
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Really?
Personally, I’d just prefer a win. If he walks off the field for the last time and he’s got a lead 5 weeks in a row (going back to last season), I don’t care about numbers, just letters, as in W or L.
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:15 am
I agree Rockstar.Even tho the mighty AFC WEST is down right now,there is no better division in all of football when it comes 2 divisional games,imo.Hats off 2 the entire AFC WEST
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:17 am
Chris in NY Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:08 am
Orton isn’t terrible, but he’s not the threat that Rivers is and he’s not as good as Cassel either. If the D plays like it did in the first two weeks I could see them forcing at least 3 turnovers.
Better hope that scenerio plays out
JR’s 
3-21 won’t get it done 
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:18 am
This game against the Donks is critical to our season, if the Raiders can pull it off, that puts them 2-1, if they can steal one of the following 3, that leaves us 3-3 looking ahead to KC, Cincy, and to Thanksgiving, where I believe Dallas will be primed for an upset at the hands of the Raiders in their own house.
The Raiders could be 5-4, or 6-3 after thanksgiving. I know it’s ambitious, but with Houston, Philly, and NYG in the games after this weekend, the Raiders need to win this week if this is going to be the breakout season we’re all hoping for.
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:18 am
Soooo…
Happy Troll is a donkey fan!!!!Am I right Happy Troll???
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:19 am
The KC game was a poor performance from Russell, save the last drive.
I know we won’t continue to get that lucky, but I would expect Russell to make a significant improvement.
Cable needs to be calling a smart gameplan. Get the pass going early so that it can be respected, then pound the rock, which will open up play action.
That being said, our first 3 passes will probably be to DHB 50 yards downfield.
By the way, that kid is due for a TD.
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:19 am
Denver has a good D that’s how they have won their first two games (Mike Nolan is the D coordinator)
We need our offense to step it up a couple of notches next week!
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:23 am
A note to JaMarcus….
This weekend while the D is on the field, pick up a dang ball and throw it. Throw it to DHB all game, you need to work on your touch, and DHB needs to work on his hands.
When the offensive series is over, go to the bench, check in with the QB coach, then throw, and keep throwing, don’t stand there with your mouth open catching flies, don’t chat it up with the entourage on the sideline, just throw the ball, keep your arm warm.
You didn’t do it in the offseason, that’s obvious, so now you need to catch up. So keep throwing it. Look at film from the 80’s, all the QB’s used to keep there arm warm on the sideline, you could learn something from that. You need to play catch up, you need to do the extra work, just get’er done.
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:25 am
LOL,
Ok 4eva ….
Ricky Brown making a play in the passing game?
It will really be a good day if that happens?
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:25 am
I’m with Thec!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Improbable Season and a 1st round bye.DRINK IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:26 am
LA to TheBay: Jerry Mac said the same thing. JR won’t be pulled unless we’re losing games, nor should he be.
all that matters to Al Davis is wins & losses
I wonder if the transition to Hackett & Tollner is what stunted his growth? these guys have a wealth of experience and excellent credentials at grooming QB’s
maybe the offense is too complicated for him? If thats the case I think we should cut half the passing plays out of the playbook and allow him to master a few at a time, rather than a whole book with below average results
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:29 am
I’m clairvoyant,just like Vicki Valencourt LOL
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:31 am
water sucks. gatorade is better!
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:32 am
be back later. gotta meeting
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:34 am
She’s not the Devil Mama shes the most beautiful girl in the world and she showed me her boobies and I like it!
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:36 am
I love devil women!
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:37 am
Roch R Says:
that leaves us 3-3 looking ahead to KC, Cincy, and to Thanksgiving, where I believe Dallas will be primed for an upset at the hands of the Raiders in their own house. BETTER START YOUR THANKSGIVING PRAYERS EARLY 
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:18 am
This game against the Donks (BRONCOS):evil:is critical to our season, if the Raiders can pull it off, that puts them 2-1, if they can steal one of the following 3, (PRETTY BIG IF’S)
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:37 am
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO
That is some fine H2O ya got there!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:38 am
LA to TheBay Says:
Really?
Personally, I’d just prefer a win. If he walks off the field for the last time and he’s got a lead 5 weeks in a row (going back to last season), I don’t care about numbers, just letters, as in W or L.
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A W is great, but we can’t expect to win many game with a QB completing under 50% of his passes. The team is young and needs to know that they have a QB that they can count on. Show me a winning team that has a QB completing less than 50% of passes??
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:38 am
nobody has mentioned it…
on the last drive in KC… JR did have a TD called back because Murphy moved…
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:42 am
Steve great article. There is just one problem, Russell didn’t throw the game winning TD in the KC game.
Mcfadden ran 6 yards through several KC defenders to get in there.
Maybe JR drove them on that play and well he should have al things considered.
Thanks for the good read.
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:42 am
Thec07 Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:13 am
We are using 80% of the play book? Wonder what the other 20% is could it be the WC? more gadgetry???
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Correction. You’re using 40% of the playbook..well..plus whatever JR has grasped from the other 40% that Cable is HOPING to use this year.
Apparently, from his comments, less passing notes in study hall and more studying is needed by the BuffetKing.
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:44 am
well lunch time…
fire up da grill and cheeseburger time!!!!!!!!!
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:45 am
We beat Denver by what 31-10 last year? with Jay Cutler at QB. I think this week will be jamarcus’ “somewhat” coming out party; over 50% passing rate, 2:1 TD to INT ratio, 30+ yards rushing, 15-ish completions and the win. Miller and Murphy get the bulk of the receptions, but DHB comes on strong with 2 or 3 and Stewart gets a TD from the 2-TE set. Running game does the rest.
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:46 am
LOL Happy Troll LOL
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:47 am
4evaRaider Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:18 am
Soooo…
Happy Troll is a donkey fan!!!!Am I right Happy Troll???
I
am this Sunday 
Who do you play next week 
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:48 am
Someone please tell me why we can’t match up with Philly and Giants. Our DB’s can match up with anyone in the league. Our front four can be more than adequate. The only teams I fear are Atlanta and New Orleans but we dont play them.
New Orleans has a passing game that we cannot stop. Atlanta has a TE that we cannot match up with. Other than that there is no team in this league that we should fear.
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:49 am
BART Bridge Blues Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:45 am
We beat Denver by what 31-10 last year? with Jay Cutler at QB. I think this week will be jamarcus’ “somewhat” coming out party; over 50% passing rate, 2:1 TD to INT ratio, 30+ yards rushing, 15-ish completions and the win. Miller and Murphy get the bulk of the receptions, but DHB comes on strong with 2 or 3 and Stewart gets a TD from the 2-TE set. Running game does the rest.
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:50 am
Personally, I’d just prefer a win. If he walks off the field for the last time and he’s got a lead 5 weeks in a row (going back to last season), I don’t care about numbers, just letters, as in W or L.
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My man!
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:51 am
I know this will be an unpopular statement, but: I think this team really misses Justin Fargas. Everyone complained that he was only good between the 20’s, well guess what we are missing in the third quarter lately, somebody to keep moving the chains between the 20’s. He is also the best blocker of the backs, McFad and Bush are learning, but they haven’t caught Fargas yet. I like where this team is going with Bush and McFadden, but I don’t know that those two can match his veteran saavy just yet. I might be the only one, but I truly hopes that he is ready to go this Sunday.
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:54 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:26 am
LA to TheBay: Jerry Mac said the same thing. JR won’t be pulled unless we’re losing games, nor should he be.
all that matters to Al Davis is wins & losses
I wonder if the transition to Hackett & Tollner is what stunted his growth? these guys have a wealth of experience and excellent credentials at grooming QB’s
maybe the offense is too complicated for him? If thats the case I think we should cut half the passing plays out of the playbook and allow him to master a few at a time, rather than a whole book with below average results
=======================
They’ve already been doing that.
Thats the angst with the coaching staff that they’re basically restricted on how much of the playbook is being used.
Steve Young narrowed it down even more. Said cut down the area he needs to scan, by half.
We are talking one slow bumpkin, in Russell, aren’t we?
Russell: “I know I’m the man. Was NEVER worried about coach pulling me”
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:54 am
Wasn’t the KC GAME SUPPOSED TO BE RUSSELL’S COMING OUT PARTY?
The game where many guaranteed he would tear up that weak D? Against one of the weakest teams in the NFL?
Just wondered why it’s been delayed a week?
Hey, I know..put a disclaimer.
“If THIS week isn’t it, we’ll try again next week”.
Yeah..there you go.
That should do it.
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BART Bridge Blues Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:45 am
We beat Denver by what 31-10 last year? with Jay Cutler at QB. I think this week will be jamarcus’ “somewhat” coming out party; over 50% passing rate, 2:1 TD to INT ratio, 30+ yards rushing, 15-ish completions and the win. Miller and Murphy get the bulk of the receptions, but DHB comes on strong with 2 or 3 and Stewart gets a TD from the 2-TE set. Running game does the rest.
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:58 am
“We are talking one slow bumpkin, in Russell, aren’t we?”
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:01 am
Happy Troll
What’s up! How are things.
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:02 am
On another note …
It’s going to be really interesting to see if the NBA allows “Russia’s Richest Man” to pay 700 million for a franchise that is worth about 275. Think Stern will let this guy into their club?
I wonder how you become Russia’s richest man? Hmmmmmm
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:08 am
Einstein
Great news! I feel better now.
Thanks
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:10 am
Hey guys. I just wanted to let you know I spoke with Tom Cable last night (I have his personal cell) and we should be good to go on Sunday vs. the Donkeys. Nothing to worry about. JaMarcus will be ready to go, and Cable is unleashing the playbook. Time to rock and roll. Stay up.
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:13 am
The reads weren’t the problem.
It was the throws.
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:14 am
BBB…
I myself at the begging of season thought Dmac was ready.4 whatever reason it appears not.GOOD THING we still have Fargas,even tho this could be the week 4 Dmac
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:14 am
Raider Dell Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:01 am
Happy Troll
What’s up! How are things.
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:15 am
Hey Dell
Whats new?
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:19 am
I think it’s less that JaMarcus isn’t bright and more like he’s thinking too much. You could call the latter the result of the former if you like, fine.
But when he’s scared of a turnover or a tough throw, the ball sails to where no one can get it.
When he’s confident, the ball comes out quick and can be fit into tight windows.
Look at the play on the final drive that was whisteld dead. JaMarcus throws it anyway and the DB makes a play on the ball as if it weren’t blown dead (IE defending, and rather well), and DHB makes a nice grab.
It barely beat the defender, but it was placed where his WR can make a play and get YAC.
Point is, when he just lets it rip and he’s got a WR he can trust, it’s far more accurate.
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:20 am
SNB666
I just heard from Einstein, that Cable is ready to “rock n roll” No worries.
I’m great with news like that.
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:20 am
Happy Troll
Stop hedging your thoughts. Give us your score for your Donkeys beat down of the Raiders.
I know you can do it!
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:23 am
SNB666
The PFT blog, do you like the blog or are you there to beat down those fools they call themselves football fans of other teams.
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:23 am
Good Post 666 even if I don’t agree.
From PFT about L.A. Stadium:
Silver&Black666 says:
September 23, 2009 11:54 AM
What hell is wrong with you idiots!
The people of LA do not want a football team they will not support one unless its a winner every year and thats just not realistic in the NFL.
There is way too much to do in LA even into November then go watch a losing team at any sport will not happen ever
Why is it the NFL and a few stupid investors (Roski) think they can force a round peg in a square hole is beyond me.
Have you heard any out cry from real football fans in LA no you haven’t because they can drive 2 hours and watch the chargers if they wanted but WAIT the Chargers cant sell out their games either.
The beach is so close what to do …. go surfing and look at the hotties in the sand or got watch Phillip Rivers cry and lose.
Besides LA has a team its called USC!
GIVE IT UP LA DOES NOT WANT YOU ROSKI!!
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:25 am
SNB666
Scroll up or down, this blog make me think of my drunken days.
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:26 am
OAKLIFER,WHERE U BEEN MAN ?
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Been reading in posting very few….
But believe me the kool aid still flows man what an addtion Seymour is our D looks alot better still aways to go but alot better hows the crew??
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:27 am
SNB666
I must be 8 minutes behing you with my reply/comments.
I must be evil, I can read your mind.
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:27 am
Raider Dell Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:20 am
Happy Troll
Stop hedging your thoughts. Give us your score for your Donkeys beat down of the Raiders.
I know you can do it!
Broncos 10 Raiders 0 or if Orton throws a pick 6
humble opinion.
Broncos 10 Raiders 7 In my
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:28 am
Dakota
That took a lot of smarts for that comment.
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:29 am
Good news Dell because we will need to open the playbook to beat Denver their Defense is what has them at 2-0 (Mike Nolan D coordinator)
Our offense needs to step it up this week!
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:29 am
exlaraiderseasonticketholder
Yeah that was my post on PFT because I sincerely believe that the attitude of the typical LA sports fan is that there is too much to do in LA than go watch a crappy team lose.
LA doesn’t support losing sports franchises you are either a perennial winner or you have empty stadiums.
My opinion
But to hear these people that live in NY try and understand LA is what makes me laugh so hard and made me post something.
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:29 am
Dakota Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:33 am
BRONCOS SUCKKKKKK!!!!
Not this Sunday
Their new 3-4 dense 
is going to keep JR 
below 20% completions 
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:32 am
LET ER RIP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:33 am
BRONCOS SUCKKKKKK!!!!
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:35 am
So does my results in FF and you are next Dakota.
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:36 am
By David Fleming
Page 2
Archive | Contact
You know something is totally messed up in the NFL when Oakland Raiders fans start making sense.
But since Week 1 of the season, when officials overturned what looked like a certain 19-yard touchdown catch by Raiders receiver Louis Murphy — a four-point swing in a 24-20 loss to the underwhelming Chargers — I’ve listened to all those howling, confused voices from the Black Hole, and I gotta say, for once, I agree.
In fact, I’ve just finished reviewing the following: Murphy’s drop, Jacoby Jones’ touchdown bomb in Houston’s win over the Titans and Carolina wideout Dante Rosario’s 11-yard TD catch against the Falcons. Honestly, I’m convinced the touchdowns were drops and the drop was a clear touchdown.
….rest of the story:
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=fleming/090923&sportCat=nfl
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:37 am
The FFL is fun, especially if you win.
Ex you lost by less than a point to Vegas,now that is a crappy deal.
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:38 am
Sweet…I am going to crush you Exla!
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:40 am
BTW where’s that fool
chargeddown been lately 
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:42 am
Dell I know you are evil you are a warren Hayes fan!
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:43 am
Raider Dell,
they 
do that to me all the time too 
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:46 am
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September 23rd, 2009 at 10:46 am
Raider Dell Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:37 am
The FFL is fun, especially if you win.
Ex you lost by less than a point to Vegas,now that is a crappy deal.
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Knew I was in trouble because every time Manning scored, so did my opponent. He had the kicker.
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:47 am
I wouldn’t bench Russell until he starts losing games. If he continues to play at a low level, that will happen, and you may get your wish.
Next season.
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:48 am
Just got off the phone with my Cuz Kurt Warner, he wanted me to share this story with you:
Russell Before Davis
Meanwhile Russell stood before the Managing General Partner, and the Managing General Partner asked him, “Are you the king of the QBs?”
“Yes, it is as you say,” Russell replied.
When he was accused by the chief coaches and the media of incompetence, he gave no answer. Then Davis asked him, “Don’t you hear the testimony they are bringing against you?” But Russell made no reply, not even to a single charge—to the great amazement of the Managing General Partner.
Now it was the Managing General Partner’s custom at the Feast to release a player chosen by the crowd. At that time they had a notorious player, called Javon. So when the crowd had gathered, Davis asked them, “Which one do you want me to release: Walker, or Russell who is called the Franchise QB?” For he knew it was out of envy that they had handed Russell over to him.
While Davis was sitting on the judge’s seat, his wife sent him this message: “Don’t have anything to do with that innocent QB, for I have suffered a great deal today in a dream because of him.”
But the chief coaches and the media persuaded the crowd to ask for Javon’s release and to have Russell benched.
“Which of the two do you want me to release?” asked the Managing General Partner.
“Javon,” they answered.
“What shall I do, then, with Russell who is called the Franchise QB?” Davis asked.
They all answered, “Bench him!”
“Why? What crime has he committed?” asked Davis.
But they shouted all the louder, “Bench him for inaccuracy!”
When Davis saw that he was getting nowhere, but that instead an uproar was starting, he took water and washed his hands in front of the crowd. “I am innocent of this man’s blood,” he said. “It is your responsibility!”
All the fans answered, “Let his blood be on us and on our children!”
Then he released Javon to them. But he had Russell benched, and handed him over to be crucified by the media.
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:48 am
We could be a real good team with even “decent” QB play. JaBlingwich is the worst QB in the league. Figure it out. I hate to echo the sentiments of Raiderbeat, but I have to concur…BENCH RUSSLE.
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:48 am
SNB666
This site is a LSD, dream.
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:51 am
8-8 is possible NOW, in spite of what JRuss is doing. JRuss even halfway gets it together, 10 wins would be the minimum.
Defense, special teams, and running game are right there!
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:51 am
Dakota,
Is that why I yell J.C. every time he passes the ball?
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:52 am
Exactly Exla!
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:53 am
Ottocrat,
lost in all this Jabustus grumble is how well our lines are playing and our starting Dbacks combination are probably the best in the league.
As I said before, 8-8 is very possible and it all depends on Jabustus now on how far we go.
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:55 am
I think it’s less that JaMarcus isn’t bright and more like he’s thinking too much.
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thats funny. Tom Cable used that same excuse for Kwame Harris last year. where is he now?
instead of trying to pancake somebody he’s working at IHOP flipping them.
Desmond Bryant is from Harvard and nobody accuses him of “thinking to much”. Same goes for Chris Morris, who got the highest score on the wonderlic
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:56 am
Bart – Mcfadden and Bush are both very good blockers. Much improved from last year. Russell has been sacked only twice all season. McFadden brought some wood in the KC Game. Blocking alone is not enough reason to bring back Fargas but I do think he has more value than Rankin. Rankin made me nervous running back that kickoff. Save Rankin until someone gets nicked.
I’d wouldn’t mind seeing Fargas get a few carries between the twenties and on special teams. He may not be a superstar on the field but he does play with heart and reckless abandon and his teamates and coaches respect him. Activate him Coach Cable if you’re reading this.
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:58 am
# Silver-n-Black666 Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:29 am
exlaraiderseasonticketholder
Yeah that was my post on PFT because I sincerely believe that the attitude of the typical LA sports fan is that there is too much to do in LA than go watch a crappy team lose.
LA doesn’t support losing sports franchises you are either a perennial winner or you have empty stadiums.
My opinion
But to hear these people that live in NY try and understand LA is what makes me laugh so hard and made me post something.
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So based on your so called “theory” snb666, how would you explain the Clippers, or the LA Kings, or the Anaheim Ducks? Your theory is whacked and biased based on your love for the Oakland Raiders and your hatred for the Los Angeles Raiders.
Sorry to say man, but this ruling today is just one step closer for the Raiders return to L.A. You know it will happen, everyone knows it will happen.
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:59 am
Raider Dell
if you’re in the giving mood this x-mas this is my request 
http://www.gibson.com/warrenhaynes/
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:59 am
AND FOR THE RECORD, I DONT GIVE A SHIZNIT WHERE THEY PLAY, I WILL ALWAYS BE A RAIDERS FAN.
September 23rd, 2009 at 11:00 am
ALL THIS ISNT REALLY HERE DELL
September 23rd, 2009 at 11:05 am
BTW, how is Randy Hansen
doing these days 
September 23rd, 2009 at 11:07 am
he cant talk about it,Happy Troll =)
September 23rd, 2009 at 11:10 am
4evaRaider Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 11:07 am
he cant talk about it,Happy Troll =)
September 23rd, 2009 at 11:13 am
Einstein
Where is the tailgate this Sunday?
September 23rd, 2009 at 11:15 am
RRS
Not an excuse, an assessment.
If he stopped thinking and started just throwing, he’d be better. They’ve tried to correct his mechanics, and it looks like it’s effecting his decision making and throwing.
He looked a lot better last season.
September 23rd, 2009 at 11:16 am
# Silver-n-Black666 Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:29 am
I sincerely believe that the attitude of the typical LA sports fan is that there is too much to do in LA than go watch a crappy team lose.
LA doesn’t support losing sports franchises you are either a perennial winner or you have empty stadiums.
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Are you from LA? Do you live in LA?
September 23rd, 2009 at 11:19 am
L.A. fans do not like to attend events in crappy stadiums or arenas. Most of the fans who supported the Raiders in L.A. as I did were dedicated to the team or went to see their favorite out of town teams. I went to Raider Booster club meetings and traveled to out of town games. When the Clippers moved from the Sports Arena to the Staples Center, their attendance went way up even though they are a lousy team and organization.
Give them a modern football stadium and they will go.
Raiders or another team doesn’t matter.
September 23rd, 2009 at 11:21 am
# Raider Dell Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 11:13 am
Einstein
Where is the tailgate this Sunday?
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In the east bay baby, in the east bay!!!! Oakland in da house.
September 23rd, 2009 at 11:22 am
alisgod Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:48 am
Someone please tell me why we can’t match up with Philly and Giants. Our DB’s can match up with anyone in the league. Our front four can be more than adequate. The only teams I fear are Atlanta and New Orleans but we dont play them.
New Orleans has a passing game that we cannot stop. Atlanta has a TE that we cannot match up with. Other than that there is no team in this league that we should fear.
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I agree that we can beat any team on any given day. If you’re a good, playoff caliber team you don’t just cherry pick your way to the postseason by beating every bad team on your schedule and losing to every good team. You can’t look at your season and say, OK, we’ve gotta beat the Broncos because we have to face this team and that team after that and those are guaranteed losses. If you’re a good team you’ll beat some other good teams on your schedule. It’s near impossible to be a .500 or better team by only beating the league’s worst teams.
The reality is we have a defense that has been superb outside of two prevent-like drives against a potent offense in San Diego. The special teams might be the best in the business. The running game can be lethal with both big play and grind it out ability. If the light goes on for JaMarcus and the passing game look out: this team could really surprise everyone and make a very big run this season.
Atlanta is very good and I think the Saints have as good a chance to win the Super Bowl this year as anyone. I actually had them as my pick to come out of the NFC this year even before that preseason game when they torched us. Drew Brees is the best QB in the league right now and playing at a level as high as any QB I’ve ever seen. I predicted a Saints-Packers NFC Title game. I think the Packers are still probably a playoff team, but they’ll have to get better to go far. Saints and Falcons could be the two best over there. I’d throw the Giants into the mix as well.
September 23rd, 2009 at 11:24 am
Could someone tell me were the heck Javon Walker is?
If we are not going to play him lets go ahead and cut this guy.
September 23rd, 2009 at 11:27 am
Hey CJ,
I’m with you man. I stupidly predicted Javon would have a 1200 yard season and win comeback player of the year award.
I’m feeling pretty dumb.
One thing I’m not feeling dumb about is that I still maintain that this team is missing a lot with Justin Fargas not on the field.
I love D-mac & Bush, but, I just feel our football team lacks a lot of grit when Fargas isn’t in the game.
And I still believe that when Fargas is handed the ball 25 times a game, he’s a 90-100 yard runner, EVERY GAME.
He gets those tough 3-4 yard gains a lot more consistently than D-Mac and he’s more agile than Bush.
With that being said, I’m really starting to like Bush as the man, if it’s not gonna be Fargas. I think he punishes defenders a lot more than D-mac throughout the course of a game.
September 23rd, 2009 at 11:30 am
Chris in NY Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 11:22 am
alisgod Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:48 am
Someone please tell me why we can’t match up with Philly and Giants.
You
can’t match up with Philly or the Giants because of your 
your 30% completion QB. 
September 23rd, 2009 at 11:34 am
I wonder if they’ve given up on Javon because of a lack of speed.
If so, it’s a bad move, as a veteran guy with good hands who can find the holes in the D is sorely needed.
I’d like to see him move the chains and be a possesion guy if the speed isn’t there anymore.
I haven’t seen enough of him this year to really say. Just one preseason game with limited action and a regular season game with even less.
September 23rd, 2009 at 11:34 am
Well CJ…
Javon is scoring a rock right now
September 23rd, 2009 at 11:36 am
Javon should have stayed in Vegas because it looks like his football career ended there.
September 23rd, 2009 at 11:36 am
I like Bush’s vision and patience.
McFadden’s just trying to beat everyone. Although he has been running hard and blocking hard. He needs to stay upright.
Remember he only had 12 or 13 carries while facing 9 in the box in KC.
September 23rd, 2009 at 11:37 am
Anyone missing Fargas right now, or am I just a lonely broken record around here?
I must be completely dillusional as nobody else seems to miss the guy one bit.
September 23rd, 2009 at 11:38 am
Thats a pretty good analysis Lynn
September 23rd, 2009 at 11:39 am
Here’s an idea run Bush up the gut and run D Mac on the corners.
September 23rd, 2009 at 11:39 am
I miss Fargas. He has been the heart and soul of our team for a few years now. He is tough.
September 23rd, 2009 at 11:40 am
I thinks its because we all know he is injured.But from what Cable says maybe this week
September 23rd, 2009 at 11:40 am
Isn’t being heart and soul of an awful team the same as being the best Golden State Warrior who cares. What does fargas do better than Bush except run into piles and not score.Both TD Bushe’s and Dmac’s fargas never scores on those 2 plays.
September 23rd, 2009 at 11:40 am
So who’s gonna cover Marshall this weekend?
You think Namdi will be allowed to shadow him? That’s my hope, but, not my expectation.
And as I mentioned in a post late last night, Chris Johnson vs. Eddy Royal sounds a hell of a lot better than De’Angelo Hall vs. Eddy Royal, doesn’t it?!!!
September 23rd, 2009 at 11:40 am
EX LA,
Exactly. They need a guy to make catches. You open uo the field with speedsters and it’s even more likely that Javon is open.
Smac,
I’m with you on Fargas to spell both Bush and McFadden. I think the way McFadden is being used, we might as well run Fargas, ’cause he’d get more yards.
Also, in last year’s 2nd game v. Broncos, Aso was not shadowing. They were going after CJ all game, whether covering Marshall or Royal. The real test will be Routt v. Stokely. Routt is much faster, but Stokely is a vet and knows how to get open.
September 23rd, 2009 at 11:41 am
Fargas ? Hmmmm.., Bush and Mc Fadden barely get enough carries as it is, so how does Fargas help?
September 23rd, 2009 at 11:43 am
I’m a huge supporter of my man Al Davis.
But, there was one move he did not make this past off-season that I think would have helped us a ton right now.
If we would have signed Jason Peters of Buffalo, we’d have the best left tackle in the league right now.
We’d have moved Super Mario to RT & be set at the ends and left guard for at least the next 5-6 years.
Oh well. . . .easy for me to say. it’s not my money.
September 23rd, 2009 at 11:43 am
Silver-n-Smac,
Did you read my comment from earlier? I think this team really misses Fargas right now. None of the fans want to believe it, because Fargas is not dynamic, but Fargas has set the tone for the running game the last two years. So far, in two games without him our running game is below-average. If he is healthy, I think Cable doesnt hesitate to get him some carries.
September 23rd, 2009 at 11:43 am
of course it makes sence Smac
Not everyone here was saying 2 bench Fargas
September 23rd, 2009 at 11:43 am
Remember how good Tim Brown was even after he lost his speed.
September 23rd, 2009 at 11:43 am
Silver-n-Smac
I think having a defensive line that rushes the passer sounds better than anything we’ve done in the past.
September 23rd, 2009 at 11:44 am
4evaRaider Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 11:43 am
of course it makes sence Smac
Not everyone here was saying 2 bench Fargas
September 23rd, 2009 at 11:45 am
# Lynn from Snot Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 11:41 am
Fargas ? Hmmmm.., Bush and Mc Fadden barely get enough carries as it is, so how does Fargas help?
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Well, I know it’s insane of me to say, but, if I had the choice to trade D-Mac for a stellar right tackle on our O-Line, I would do it in a heartbeat.
I think a combination of Bush/Fargas would still be a fantastic 1-2 punch.
I just feel like D-Mac is a big play waiting to happen.
But that’s exactly my only problem with him. I have to wait for a big play to happen. In the meantime, when I need to keep those chains moving with 3-4 yard runs, I’m not getting them.
Make any sense?
September 23rd, 2009 at 11:46 am
Todd ’s brother Mikhail opens up a hookah bar. LMFAO
http://thequad.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/11/13/mikhail-marinovich-knows-good-hookah/
September 23rd, 2009 at 11:46 am
# exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 11:43 am
Remember how good Tim Brown was even after he lost his speed.
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remember how good Tim Brown was once Gannon was the QB.
September 23rd, 2009 at 11:47 am
# Lynn from Snot Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 11:43 am
Silver-n-Smac
I think having a defensive line that rushes the passer sounds better than anything we’ve done in the past.
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Hey, you ain’t gettin’ any argument on that point here!
Getting Seymour was pure Genius by Al.
That simgle move completely changed the dynamic of our ENTIRE defense.
September 23rd, 2009 at 11:47 am
Silver-n-Smac Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 11:37 am
Anyone missing Fargas right now, or am I just a lonely broken record around here?
I miss Huggy Bear
September 23rd, 2009 at 11:51 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQZrC3ljtuM
this is why Fargas has trouble breaking off big runs.
September 23rd, 2009 at 11:53 am
I don’t miss the bear!
September 23rd, 2009 at 12:01 pm
Why is everyone getting on DMAC? It’s only week 3 and we already have doubters. His season #’s are 103 yards on 29 carries and 1 TD. Sure it could be better, but it’s pretty tuff to run on 8-9 man in the box. Let’s give him a few more games to prove himself and if it doesn’t workout, we can always start Bush.
September 23rd, 2009 at 12:03 pm
Article on BSPN on the Murphy catch.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=fleming/090923&sportCat=nfl
September 23rd, 2009 at 12:11 pm
thats some funny shizzzitt Lynn
September 23rd, 2009 at 12:18 pm
we went 2 the other side…
September 23rd, 2009 at 12:21 pm
Where the hell is everybody at? Am I missing something?
September 23rd, 2009 at 12:24 pm
# exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 11:43 am
Remember how good Tim Brown was even after he lost his speed.
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Timmy never needed speed. He quite possibly had the best field vision of any receiver to EVER play the game. YAC, HELL, he invented YAC.
September 23rd, 2009 at 12:25 pm
# exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 12:31 pm
From Wiki:
Todd Marinovich is engaged to Alix, approximately fifteen years his junior …
I guess rehab is not working. LOL
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Obviously not working for you either. WTF does “approximately fifteen years his junior” mean?
September 23rd, 2009 at 12:27 pm
He / they fell off a cliff and WON.
That hasn’t happened alot either…
He’ll come around. So will his wides.
Murphy actually had another costly penalty too that negated big yardage.
The play was whistled dead when Murphy jumped bu no one heard it. Russell rolled delivered a strike the corner bit and missed on and Bey sprinted untouched toward the end zone.
C’mon Murph. Settle in rook…
September 23rd, 2009 at 12:31 pm
From Wiki:
Todd Marinovich is engaged to Alix, approximately fifteen years his junior, and they expect a son who they plan to name Baron Buzzy Marinovich
I guess rehab is not working. LOL
September 23rd, 2009 at 12:32 pm
Timmy invented ducking and going out of bounds.
September 23rd, 2009 at 12:33 pm
In Tampa, they call Timmy Mr. Buccaneer.
September 23rd, 2009 at 12:42 pm
553. NO DOUBT! Good article by ESPN in favor of the Raiders….crazy…
September 23rd, 2009 at 12:49 pm
As a ND and Raiders fan, I love Timmy Brown.
Dropped a lot of balls though….all that damned tape on his fingers. It’s not like he had Elway throwing the ball at him or something.
But otherwise, he was about the only reason to watch the team for 8 or 9 years…
September 23rd, 2009 at 12:51 pm
Hey Einstein, change your name as it does not work for you LMFAO.
Todd 40 yrs old
Alix -25 yrs old
years his junior 15
September 23rd, 2009 at 12:52 pm
posting too fast again.
AD never forgave Mr. Raider, Tim Brown for signing the offer sheet with the Donkeys. Made Al pay up. LOL
September 23rd, 2009 at 12:55 pm
Now Farve’s “f’n” with the Packers.
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September 23rd, 2009 at 12:59 pm
Dakota Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 12:49 pm
As a ND and Raiders fan, I love Timmy Brown.
Dropped a lot of balls though….all that damned tape on his fingers. It’s not like he had Elway throwing the ball at him or something.
But otherwise, he was about the only reason to watch the team for 8 or 9 years…
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You may forgive “Mr. Raider” for signing with the Broncos, but I will not.
September 23rd, 2009 at 1:04 pm
Bo,
We both know why you hate Timmy…same reason I never got warm and fuzzy over Wheatly.
September 23rd, 2009 at 1:05 pm
BSJ
Not fair, IMO. Let bygones be bygones with Timmy.
He caught his 100th TD in Oakland, and I really don’t think it’s his fault he was wearing the wrong uniform. He got a standing ovation, which is what was deserved.
You remember how the 49ers retired Jerry Rice?
Remember how Al Davis and the Raiders retired Timmy?
Tim Brown deserved better from us, he stayed through thick and thin and Al didn’t return the favor.
September 23rd, 2009 at 1:08 pm
The fact that he went to ND shouldn’t sour anything either. Woodson went to Michigan, and being an Ohio St. fan, I didn’t like the guy. Of course you have to respect the talent.
When he became a Raider, all was forgiven.
Of course, until he ditched us. But again, you can’t blame him either.
September 23rd, 2009 at 1:14 pm
new post with little content.
September 23rd, 2009 at 1:17 pm
Yeah LA To The Bay!
I am sur eyou did not like the guy.
Woodson cracked a Buckeye more than Desmond Howard another Raider cracked a Buckeye.
September 23rd, 2009 at 1:20 pm
Re: Timmy
It is not a ND issue with me at all. It was Timmy’s classless decision to sign with the Broncos and then his classless decision to end his career in TB when he clearly had nothing left.
And I never much respected his constant ducking and running OB either, but that I can forgive.
Al did the right thing by ignoring his retirement bash, forcing Timmy to hold it at the Hyatt. He could have retired in Oakland as a proud Raider and all would have been copacetic. I do not believe Timmy has any loyalty to the team at all.
September 23rd, 2009 at 1:38 pm
You get so confused when you’re babbling.
Here. Let me help. IT’S CALLED BEING INCONSISTENT.
What a sorry whine, dude.
LA: “Oh, he made that completion. He was FEELING CONFIDENT, THAT’S WHY HE MADE IT”
LA: “Oh, he missed the next one badly. For some unknown reason, right then he went through a mental checklist, and decided his confidence was shot, hence the other throw.
LA: ” Next ball was completed. He’s confident again”
THAT’S THE STUPID ANALOGY YOU WANT TO RUN?
Honestly, you don’t see how ignorant that take of your is?
He’s INCONSISTENT. See, you fool, if a qb’s confidence is SHOT, IT’S SHOT FOR THE GAME..doesn’t go in and out..you’re just making excuse.
OH..THAT’ RIGHT..aren’t you that sorry fool who posted ‘once JR flips on the light switch, everyone better watch out” lol…wasn’t that you?
Weak whine..a sorry weak whine.
INCONSISTENT QB’S ARE ON EVERY ROSTER..they’re called “backups” or “soon to be released”
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LA to TheBay Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:19 am
I think it’s less that JaMarcus isn’t bright and more like he’s thinking too much. You could call the latter the result of the former if you like, fine.
But when he’s scared of a turnover or a tough throw, the ball sails to where no one can get it.
When he’s confident, the ball comes out quick and can be fit into tight windows.
Look at the play on the final drive that was whisteld dead. JaMarcus throws it anyway and the DB makes a play on the ball as if it weren’t blown dead (IE defending, and rather well), and DHB makes a nice grab.
It barely beat the defender, but it was placed where his WR can make a play and get YAC.
Point is, when he just lets it rip and he’s got a WR he can trust, it’s far more accurate.
September 23rd, 2009 at 2:00 pm
This Post was absolutely hilarious I must say, but I believe Russell will pull himself together and become that Star Quarterback we’ve all been waiting for. RAIDERS ALL THE WAY!!!!
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September 23rd, 2009 at 2:14 pm
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
ARE POSTING TOO FAST 
YOU MISTAKENLY TYPED “Donkeys” INSTEAD OF “THE DENVER BRONCOS”) 
Made Al pay up. LOL
September 23rd, 2009 at 12:52 pm
posting too fast again.
AD never forgave Mr. Raider, Tim Brown for signing the offer sheet with the Donkeys. (OBVIOUSLY YOU
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