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35.2 percent? Russell is at .500

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, September 23rd, 2009 at 11:07 pm in Oakland Raiders.

So this is what it has come to.

The great defender of JaMarcus Russell is none other than Tim (That’s not true!) Kawakami.

A completion percentage of 35.2 percent (19-for-54) would be reason to express at least concern for an high school quarterback, alarm for a NCAA Division I quarterback and outright panic for an NFL quarterback.

Yet here comes Tim, Mr. Stir-it-up himself, stressing patience with Russell. Could be one of those mind-trick things, although it’s more rooted in common sense.

The most telling comment from Russell during his weekly meeting with the local media Wednesday came when he was asked bout the progress of other young quarterbacks such as Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco, and why he didn’t measure up.

“I wish those guys the very best in their careers,” Russell said. “But that’s really things I can’t control. That’s out of my league and I play for the Raiders, not for those other teams. Like I said, I wish those guys the best. I’m their fan, a fan of football. Other than that, I really don’t pay much attention to it.”

The key words being, I play for the Raiders, not for those other teams.

Reminded me of the movie “Vacation,” where Clark Griswold’s son Rusty says, “Why can’t we be like other families?” Clark, played by Chevy Chase, says, “Because we’re not like other families. We’re the Griswolds.”’

While his general tenor Wednesday appeared to deflect a lot of the blame elsewhere, the real truth is a lot of the blame should be deflected elsewhere until he proves one way or another he can be a quarterback who can lead his team to a championship. As a No. 1 overall pick, anything less is a disappointment, although lifetime security is a hell of a consolation prize.

Has Russell had anything approximating the environment a young quarterback needs to succeed? Not even close. In fact, you could make a case that if you wanted to sabatoge a No. 1 pick, the way to do do it would entail a contract impasse, two head coaches, having three play-callers in two years and giving him dicey protection and an support cast of young receivers.

Check, check, check and check.

Russell has played pretty well against the Broncos in the past, as was duly noted by first-year Broncos coach Josh McDaniels.

He’s pulled out of a tailspin once before and doesn’t seem overly concerned about the one he’s in now.

Am I surprised by the way he’s reverted to the scatter-armed quarterback I saw through much of the offseason? Sure, but no more so than Tom Cable, who conceded Monday he was surprised as well.

But with the season only two games old, it’s best to look at his won-loss record. Russell has one win, one loss.

That’s how they keep score, isn’t it?

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219 Responses to “35.2 percent? Russell is at .500”

  1. Oakglenn Says:

    Go Raiders!!!

  2. Oakglenn Says:

    Just Keep “Jivin” off the field and things will be fine.

  3. priesttj Says:

    His last 8 starts he’s 4 & 4 with two 4th qrtr come from behind wins. That is what I call his baseline. He should and I do believe he will start to dig himself and this team out of mediocrity and into contention. This division is wideopen IMO and if we can win 3 of the next 6 we will win at least 5 of the last 8. Giving us a 9 & 7 record, yes, a winning record in his second year as a starter. The next step will be a championship. And I don’t mean for the division.

  4. Oakglenn Says:

    Richochet: LMFAO..you fool. THE #1 MOST LOVED MAN TO NINER FANS IS EDDIE D. #1. Bill Walsh is right behind.
    Fans were chanting “EDDIE..EDDIE’ all throughout the second quarter.
    See, crap for brains, adults? You know..the “big people”? They don’t care that Eddie didn’t rush, like a little snitch, and turn in the governor who was extorting money from him. YOU would probably snitch like a little girl..but the smart business move? TO ANY BUSINESS MAN..was to pay the 400 K, knowing he now had the last casino license being offered, and would be making 10 million, at least, per year.
    See, pumpkin, Eddie D knew the next guy would pay it, under the table, and he would be out.
    See, moron, he was guilty of not reporting a crime..snitching..something you know so well.

    Oh..did I thank you for the setup? lol…

    =====================================================

    Indictment and Conviction

    After being fingered by Texas for-profit prison entrepreneur Patrick Graham, who allegedly gave him $845,000 in conjunction with a scheme to locate a private juvenile prison in Jena, Louisiana, Edwards was indicted in 1998 by the federal government with prosecution led by U.S. Attorney Eddie Jordan. The prosecution soon released transcripts of audio conversations, as well as excerpts of video surveillance that seemed to indicate dubious financial transactions. The Edwards investigation also tarnished the reputation of San Francisco 49ers owner Edward J. DeBartolo Jr., who ADMITTED to paying Edwards $400,000 in exchange for Edwards’s assistance in securing a casino license.

    Edwards was found guilty on 17 of 26 counts, including racketeering, extortion, money laundering, mail fraud, and wire fraud;
    =========================================
    Hey Moron, Debartolo ADMITTED to paying Edwards, In other words, so you can understand it, ADMITTED TO A FEDERAL GRAND JURY, or to dumb it down some, RATTED HIM OUT. God you are stupid Rack-o. BYE RACK-ETTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  5. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Dude,

    You never answered.

    What’s your prediction Sunday?

    You’ve made one assessment after another about this team. So it should be easy for you to make a simple prediction for Sundays game.

    I made mine.

    Raiders by 10.

  6. Oakglenn Says:

    Mistabrown Says:
    September 23rd, 2009 at 8:30 pm

    Walker didnt play in the pre-season you brain dead buffoon.

    Mistabrown Says:
    September 23rd, 2009 at 8:44 pm

    No AlisNotGod,

    Im aware Walker played about 3 plays against NO.

  7. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    I actually like Eddie Debartolo, Oakglenn. Our owner wasn’t exactly cut from an entirely different cloth, if you know what I mean. Ours is just a lot smarter. But a will to win by any means necessary? Got to go with Eddie. That Carmen Policy sure was a cross dresser though, wasn’t he?

  8. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    I’m watching this Wendy Williams show. Possibly the biggest c unt I’ve ever seen on television.

  9. Oakglenn Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    September 23rd, 2009 at 11:24 pm

    I actually like Eddie Debartolo, Oakglenn. Our owner wasn’t exactly cut from an entirely different cloth, if you know what I mean. Ours is just a lot smarter. But a will to win by any means necessary? Got to go with Eddie. That Carmen Policy sure was a cross dresser though, wasn’t he?
    ========================================

    What Al Davis will say is this: The other owners in the league, DeBartolo, Jerry Jones, Rooney, Blank, are NOT your competitors. They are your business partners. And he’s right. Your competitors are other forms of sports and entertainment. So, when people like DeBartolo or Pat Bowlen cheat the salary cap, or don’t report league income, they aren’t getting over, they are cheating their business partners. That is actually pretty damn effing low.

  10. Silver-n-Black666 Says:

    oakglenn

    “Is this Browns fan the stupidest person on Earth or what”

    man I agree with you 100%

    What a TARD!

  11. Silver-n-Black666 Says:

    Wendy Williams

    She looks like a man that had a trans gender operation.

  12. Oakglenn Says:

    Wendy Williams is a chick?? Whoah, that’s news to me.

  13. Raider75 Says:

    It’s 1:43 and Russell still sucks.

    Carry on…

  14. Culebra Says:

    Nick Hardwick out for 8 weeks. We sure did a number on the dolts.

  15. RaiderRetribution Says:

    The contract impasse was just as much as Jamarcus’ fault (and his agent) as it was Al’s.

    JR got $61 million w/ $30 million guaranteed.
    It is now time to prove he is worth it!

    The Raider defense carried Jamarcus on their back, he has a solid line, not great but good pass protection, and excellent in run blocking.

    Jamarcus you have a rocket arm and a mind, look one way then look at another reciever and drill that football into your wide receiver’s numbers.

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  17. CRANK SMOKER Says:

    toots

  18. Richochet Says:

    Silver-n-Black666 Says:
    September 23rd, 2009 at 11:31 pm
    oakglenn

    “Is this Browns fan the stupidest person on Earth or what”

    man I agree with you 100%

    What a TARD!
    =========
    You two are like two little kids, who got picked on. You each hold the others hand, telling the other ‘everything is ok’..when you both know it’s not.

    Honestly, go read your exchanges.

    You sound like two 8 year old girls, passing notes, both in a tizzy.

  19. Richochet Says:

    Oakglenn Says:
    September 23rd, 2009 at 6:12 pm
    Rack-O sheeit you have GOT to be kidding. Let me wipe the floor with you as usual:

    Richochet: Difference is Niners said PLAY WELL OR SIT..and they sat him.
    —————————————————–
    No. Mike Nolan fabricated some injury as to why he sat. Which made both Smith and the Whiners look stupid. BTW do the words Salary Cap mean anything to you?? Probably not, since the Whiners were sanctioned by the league for ignoring it. So, they are paying a guy $30mm to carry a clip board. Brilliant. Nice cap management.

    Richochet: You’re too damn stupid for words..”fabricated an injury”?? YOU DUMBASS..HE HAD A SEASON ENDING SURGERY..YOU STUPID FOOL. yOU KNOW..UNDER THE KNIFE?
    You ever read the papers?
    Why do you set your self up like that? lol…it’s like talking to an idiot kid.
    and 30 million?? WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
    NO, DUMBASS, that’s Russell with the guaranteed 30 million. No, fool, the Niners redid Smith’s contract, and dropped it way down.
    The Raiders? you’re stuck playing a guy that the whole country is laughing at.

  20. Rhino Says:

    Jamarcus can say all he wants about the Raiders and Young WR`s…..i dont see anybody else sporting a mohican and donning a nice silver and black bubble-hat..ok leadership has nothing to do with appearance.

    I`m sure it helps if the guy with the most cash….at the very least,becomes a student of the game

    “sometimes you have a guy get in your way so you’re not going to make your next step.“

    I agree with Jamarcus on this comment,but it`s not what leardership is about…he should be bullying the correct reads into them,and carrying them to the next step with him…

  21. Copenhagen_Fan Says:

    JaMarcus is a leader. He scrugs off the critical and personal attacks, is hanging in with pride and he (as Priest pointed out) 4-4 the last 8 games.

    He’s a WINNER. He’s proving it on the field, with comebacks and making big plays when it counts. WHEN HAVE WE HAD A QB THAT MADE BIG PLAYS? Not since Gannon, and he didn’t even have the big play ability of JaMarcus.

    Give him time and get the WR’s on track this season, work on his mechanics and he will be an ALL PRO. Watch and see.

    JaMarcus hasn’t had a good game yet this year. His stats have been horrible. You can’t keep him down. He’s going to break out. If he does, we are going to the playoffs.

    Now shut up and watch us beat the donkeys.

  22. NoMoreFargas Says:

    What’s up looks like Walker can’t get a sniff I don’t know whats funnier him saying he gets in and out his breaks with best in the league or Dhall legendary quote best db either nhamdi,bailey or myself.

  23. dave r Says:

    u ever get those gut feelings mine says russell is gonna have a good game against the donkeys hopefully its a gut feeling and not my acid reflux acting up

  24. 4evaRaider Says:

    Good Morning NATION!!!

  25. 4evaRaider Says:

    I think this game againt the donkeys will be more of a “LET ER RIP” type game by the O.If the WR’s are really learning on the “fly” they aint a doing 2 bad,imo.As usuall it’s a divisional game and we all know what that means!!!

    donkeys have played browns and Bengals and I just dont think they will be able to handle da Raiders after 2 wars in 2 games.Yep the donkeys are sissy’s.

    Special Teams HELL YEAH!!! Keep it going!!!

  26. hwnrdr Says:

    Good Morning Nation!!!
    Some times some players play best against the Donkeys…Russell had a good game against them last year and so did Lelie. But…this is another year!
    Lets go Raiders!!!

  27. MacRaider Says:

    JR 17-27 73% completion 330 yards 3 TD no INT VS Donkeys last year

  28. 4evaRaider Says:

    And a better year already!!!! Hwnrdr A BETTER YEAR ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  29. 4evaRaider Says:

    BIG D HAS GOT A SERIOUS TUDE!!!

  30. hwnrdr Says:

    We are starting to look better this year, 4eva…
    I hope the energy from the crowd gives all players a boost! On D, like Dirt Lot said, we all should give Orton and Co. hell!!! Shoots, why not yell at the tv, also? Lol!!!

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  32. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S, HWNDR,4EVA..YEAH BABY, HOW ABOUT THE NAME CALLING AND NINER TALK FROM THE EVENING CROWD,WHAT A JOKE

  33. hwnrdr Says:

    Yeah, wth is up with that crap?

  34. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    I THINK RUSSELL WILL BE OK.THE 1ST OVERALL PICK GOES TO A VERY BAD TEAM,THAT IS NOTHING NEW,IT IS PART OF HIS JOB TO HELP MAKE THAT TEAM BETTER,THE TEAM HAS A RESPONSABILITY TO HELP HIM WITH DRAFT PICK’S AND F.A’S TO BUILD A TEAM..

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  36. 4evaRaider Says:

    The answers are myriad I’M sure!!!

    But HELL YEAH…I B SCREAMING THIS SUNDAY AT DA TV!!!!!!!!!

  37. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    GET THOSE LOUD & PROUD RAIDER FAN’S IN FLA. WOUND UP EARLY 4EVA, THE TEAM NEED’S THE RAIDER NATION MORE THAN EVER..

  38. 4evaRaider Says:

    LOLOLOLOL

  39. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Copenhagen_Fan Says:
    September 24th, 2009 at 2:11 am

    Now shut up and watch us beat the donkeys.

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Word from the EU to YOU PEOPLE!!!

  40. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    What’s up with the odd swinging from 3 pts Raiders to
    1 1/2 pts donkeys. What am I missing?

  41. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    You guys know that Erik Pears went to high school in Denver, went to Colo. St. and still lives in Denver? If he stinks we should just cut him after the game and save the plane fare.

  42. neilb Says:

    morning all.

  43. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    III”’MMM PPPOOOSSSTTTIIINNNGGG CCCOOOMMMEEENNNTTT TTTOOO QQQUUUIIICCCKKKLLLYYY!!

    By the way, Good Morning Raider Nation!

  44. hellsbells Says:

    EXLA that just means more people are betting on the Broncos. Wagering drives the lines back and forth.
    Wasted money, Raiders will win.

  45. neilb Says:

    Gone with,caught with,hung with.

    We’re riding the JaMarcus horse whatever happens.

  46. UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER Says:

    wsup nation

  47. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Great article about quarterbacking from Namath, Elway, and Griese.
    http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=Ajk_QHVu948rtNwK0W7GEn5DubYF?slug=jc-elwaymarinonamath092309&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

  48. vegas raider Says:

    exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
    September 24th, 2009 at 6:52 am
    What’s up with the odd swinging from 3 pts Raiders to
    1 1/2 pts donkeys. What am I missing?

    ***************************************

    That means it is the best news we could hear. Whenever public money comes in so one-sided, as this has, you ALWAYS GO THE OTHER WAY.

    Same thing happened last week. Pat’s started out as a one-point favorite, everyone bet on the Patriots, line went up to -3, with a -120 payout, and the Pats ended up, with most betters, losing.

  49. 4evaRaider Says:

    I didnt know Joe Namath was a ornithologist

  50. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Just meant that there are a lot of donkey fans betting with their hearts instead of reality. lol
    Raiders 27-17. Covering the points and the over/under.

  51. Roch R Says:

    Sunday is going to be a fantastic day! I’m travelling 1500 miles for my first NFL/Raider game of my life!! 26 years of lovin’ the Raiders! And finally I get to see them live in Oakland, beating up on the Broncos!

    Sunday is going to be a great day!

  52. 4evaRaider Says:

    BIG BIG CONGRATULATIONS 2 YOU ROCH R

  53. neilb Says:

    Roch…tell us more.

  54. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    I am trying to slow down, really I am.
    Despite my JaMarcus fat bashing this week and the blasting he has taken this week on this blog, I really believe JR will have a good game Sunday. Need to break up that 8-9 in the box and loosen things up.

  55. neilb Says:

    The only time I’ve seen the Raiders play was when they came to London in the early 90’s.

    One day I’ll see them play in Oakland….

  56. neilb Says:

    Roch…..hope you and your wife have a great time.

  57. Roch R Says:

    I’m sooo stoked for this game! My wife got us the best seats she could find! Home bench side! Club section, and hopefully Russell will continue what I hope is a trend of being a Bronco killer. Coming off of last season’s 31-10 win, and a big call for improvement last week, this could be a great game, where the guys light it up!

  58. Roch R Says:

    Thanks 4eva!

  59. hwnrdr Says:

    Are you tailgating Roch R? Fans, especially for a Bronco game will be lined up before 6AM waiting to get in. Since you guys will be in the club seats, you guys should check out the Lombardi Trophies display and just experience the energy of the crowd! Its the best feeling!!! I’ll be there at 8AM, like always…

  60. neilb Says:

    The clocks at it again,the posting to quick is getting on my nerves……not what you need before a night shift.

    Off for some dinner,then to work……

  61. Roch R Says:

    Any recommendations of what needs to be seen or done at an Oakland game? I don’t want to miss anything! I feel like a kid on Christmas eve!

    GO RAIDERS!

  62. 4evaRaider Says:

    Hey Roch R…

    I dont know if you’ve ever seen their post’s but…

    Norco Bob and Brien Who Rules have a tail-gate party that is RENOUNED 4 it’s fun,shall we say.And the BEST THING about it is EVERYONE is welcome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I’m not sure exactly where it is but you will hear RFEAL LOUD METAL and ther prolly be a BIG GREEN CLOUD OF SMOKE!!!

  63. 4evaRaider Says:

    Dont feel bad Neilb.I only been 2 games in LA.Never been 2 da hallowed grounds of Alameda.But I WILL!!!

  64. hwnrdr Says:

    Sorry, this time thing sucks…scroll up Roch…

  65. 4evaRaider Says:

    UMMMM….if your that way inclined,that is

  66. hwnrdr Says:

    Hey 4eva…
    I tailgate around the same general area that Norco Bob says that they tailgate and I have never seen them. Not doubting them, but just never seen them. For all I know, though, is I could have been right next to them and not know it…haha!

  67. scootertramp Says:

    Wow. Half way across the country! Enjoy. Get there early and enjoy the parking lot parties….

  68. 4evaRaider Says:

    Hey You Guys!!!

    If I hit that lil red “X” next to the re-fresh bitton B4 I send my post,more get through in time

  69. RaiderTW Says:

    Denver’s next 5 games
    Dallas
    New England
    San Diego
    @ Baltimore
    Pittsburgh

  70. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I’d like to see more of Javon Walker in the passing game. save Higgins for punt returns.

    Higgins/McFadden at PR is solid.

    Walker seems confident in his abilities and so far in 2 games he’s done nothing to show that he doesn’t have it. gotta give him a chance to prove you right or wrong. Walker in the slot as a sure handed 3rd WR would be an asset against Denver, especially if they take Zach Miller out of the game, like KC did.

    if Walker can shine in any game this season, it’ll be against the donks. think Culpepper vs. Miami a few years back. Daunte was garbage in almost every game except that one. revenge is a huge motivator. Javon left Dungver on bad terms

  71. 4evaRaider Says:

    LMAO Hwnrdr!!!

    They bess B 4real

  72. Chris in NY Says:

    Good blog entry Jerry.

  73. Roch R Says:

    What time should a person plan to be at the game, to walk around and see the tailgating?

  74. Roch R Says:

    4eva! LOL, yeah I’m that way inclined, I’m Canadian, we’re all that way inclined.

  75. 4evaRaider Says:

    RaiderTW Says:
    September 24th, 2009 at 8:07 am
    Denver’s next 5 games
    Dallas
    New England
    San Diego
    @ Baltimore
    Pittsburgh
    ************************************************************

    Like I’ve said B4 I always like 2C how the team we just played does vs. their next opponent.Back in the NASTY DAZE other teams were usually whupped.The donkeys are in DEEP SHIZZZITT,imo

  76. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I’m not sold on Erik Pears at LG.

    I think McQuistan, Barnes or even Satele are better options.

    Pears is a former donk though. lost his RT job to Ryan Harris, just before the appendectomy. then released.

    Maybe he’ll be motivated like Walker? Gerrard Warren & Cornell Green are also dungver castoffs we brought in to clean the toilets

  77. hwnrdr Says:

    Roch R Says:
    September 24th, 2009 at 8:20 am
    What time should a person plan to be at the game, to walk around and see the tailgating?

    Around 10AM it shouls be at full force!!! Its fun…come join the action…

  78. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Denver has a different view of the QB and offense. Opposite of AD’s stretch the field. Know thy enemy and their strengths:
    http://www.denverpost.com/premium/broncos/ci_13406734

  79. Trolls 35 Raiders 0 Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    September 24th, 2009 at 8:22 am
    I’m not sold on Erik Pears at LG.

    I think McQuistan, Barnes or even Satele are better options.

    Pears is a former donk :evil: I’M SURE YOU MEANT BRONCOS :evil: though. lost his RT job to Ryan Harris, just before the appendectomy. then released.

    Maybe he’ll be motivated like Walker? Gerrard Warren & Cornell Green are also dungver :twisted: I’M SURE YOU MEANT “DENVER” :twisted: castoffs we brought in to clean the toilets

  80. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Erik Pears is 6′ 8″…how many balls will Janormous throw into his helmet?

  81. Oakglenn Says:

    Hey Rack-ette right now I am willing to offer you Jonathan Holland and a 2012 7th rounder for your rights to Craptree. You should probably take the deal.

  82. rone Says:

    My god, Jerry, the Griswolds-Raiders analogy is so apt it makes me want to cry.

  83. hwnrdr Says:

    You want to talk about Cancer…Crabtree didn’t want to be taken by us, and look at his attitude now…NO!!! I’m just saying…

  84. 4evaRaider Says:

    Ummm that WILL B donkeys from dungver,there Happy Troll

  85. los raiders de don rober Says:

    Saw the game again in the 30 minute cuts of Sunday Ticket (awesome!). In our first offensive play JR had DMC open about 5 yards away from him. JR threw the ball at DMCs feet! At some point the rest of the offensewill get frustrated with JRs play. When that happens it wont matter if Cable or Al wants to start him, the rest of the O will be non-believers.

  86. RaiderRockstar Says:

    hey there Happy Troll :)

    I meant what I said and I said what I meant to say.

    Raiders 35, Trolls 0

    Kyle “the pedofile” Orton will get outplayed by JaMarcus “Butterball” Russell on Sunday. you’ll see

  87. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Down in Denver! From teir comment section lmfao

    MANY on radio, many on print, have been VERY CLEAR that Pat Bowlen is BROKE. He has always been, by far, the “least” rich, of the NFL owners. All the others are Billionaires with Big Business income. Bowlen has no income besides the Broncos.
    Pat Bowlen could NOT AFFORD the Big Money cost to re-sign Cutler or Marshall. He literally DOESN’T have the money for the signing bonuses for contracts that compare to Eli Manning, Phillip Rivers, or Roddy White.
    The Denver Broncos traded away their upcoming 1st round pick for a 2nd round pick because the boss is broke. He knows damn well he can NOT AFFORD the cost of signing a high 1st round draft pick next year.
    Bowlen WAS a great owner, but now the team is deteriorating and it is, no, HE is a Disgrace for not selling the team to an ownership group that can afford to operate the team on more than a dollar store budget. We got a dollar store coach and a dollar store quarterback.
    SELL THE DAMN TEAM BOWLEN. You’re single handedly Crushing the Orange Crush[/b]“A. Cutler was not traded for Orton…Please grasp that. There is a first round pick sitting there and one of the best QB classes in recent history

  88. 4evaRaider Says:

    Yeah Roch R…

    I would DEFINATLY CHECK OUT HWNRDR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  89. RaiderRockstar Says:

    If Crabtree isn’t signed by Nov. 17, he cannot play in 2009.

    The first opportunity the 49ers would have to trade Crabtree is March 5.

  90. RaiderRockstar Says:

    LOL @ “Janormous” !

  91. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    September 24th, 2009 at 8:49 am
    exlaraiderseasonticketholde
    I’m not going to subscribe to the Denver Post, even if it’s free. can you post the article please?
    ———————- long article but for you, here it is:

    NFL success used to be built on 3 yards and a cloud of dust.

    Now the foundation is the 4-yard pass and hope it will bust.

    The short passing game has become all the rage in the NFL.

    More precisely, the NFL is about the really, really short passing game.

    In this ever-evolving wave of receiver screens, hot routes and check-downs, the Broncos may have the quarterback prototype in Kyle Orton.

    In contrast to his critics’ complaints, Orton ranks third in the NFL in pass plays of at least 20 yards, fourth in average yards per completion and eighth in yards per attempt. Impressive production, considering Orton’s average completion reaches the receiver 5.7 yards from the line of scrimmage.

    “Not every pass has to be 50 yards in the air to turn into a big play,” Orton said. “We’ll certainly take them if they want to give them, but looking back on our first two games, we didn’t have too many opportunities to really push it down the field. We’re not going to try to make everybody happy and throw the ball down the field when it’s not the smart thing to do.”

    Perhaps Orton should be judged not on how far he throws the ball, but where the official sets the ball after the play.

    Orton knows how to generate a bomb from a flare. He has thrown for more yards per completion and attempt than his predecessor Jay Cutler, or New England’s Tom Brady, who is the QB standard in the offensive system used by the Broncos.

    Granted, an 87-yard deflection within a two-game period carries the same skewed effect on a stat sheet that a hole-in-one has on a golfer’s scorecard entering the No. 3 tee box.

    But Orton has had eight other 20-yard-plus pass plays.

    “Kyle Orton, to me, got pigeonholed coming out of Chicago,” said former quarterback Joe Theismann. “People didn’t want to give him a lot of credit. . . . But he wins. And he knows how to make the big play. This game is about chunks of yards. Football is a game of big plays now.”

    That Orton is among the league leaders in big-play passes would suggest either his arm strength exceeds perception, or it’s all relative in a dunk-and-dink-happy league.

    There may be truth in both. Some of Orton’s big gains have been more about the run after the point of completion — or deflection, in the case of the game-winning, 87-yard touchdown play to Brandon Stokley in the season opener at Cincinnati. But there also was the 25-yard laser to Jabar Gaffney on Denver’s first offensive play Sunday against Cleveland, and the 49-yard, fourth-quarter heave to Gaffney that set up a short, game-clinching touchdown.

    “Kyle has a good arm,” Gaffney said. “He can make those down-the-field

    throws. Sometimes, the defense is not going to let you get deep, so you have to check down underneath, but when its called, Kyle can make pretty much every throw.”

    The underneath throw, though, has become a staple in every offense.

    “I think it’s evolved into you seeing more quick screens rather than pound it up there every play,” Stokley said. “You have a lot more space out there. If you make one guy miss, you can get the home run.”

    Another reason for the propensity of short passes is defenses are increasingly playing their safeties deeper in coverage.

    “That’s probably been a trend for the last two or three years,” Orton said. “Really, it’s because you have safeties with such incredible speed that if you put them back there, he can really make plays on the outside throws. And if the ball is going to be hanging up in the air a long time, he can certainly have enough range to go make those plays.”

    Consequently, the percentage of long-pass attempts has significantly diminished across the NFL, even if quarterbacks such as Orton still convert their share of big-play passes.

    “Everybody wants to get the ball down the field,” Orton said. “I’m no different. I feel like I can make those throws. But if they’re not there, you can go from having a chance to gain a lot of yards to a chance to have a disaster happen on the play, too. So that’s not very smart.”

  92. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Article is post 91 lol

  93. RaiderRockstar Says:

    exlaraiderseasonticketholder:

    I’m not going to subscribe to the Denver Post, even if it’s free. can you post the article please?

  94. SR Raider Says:

    Jamarcus “Butterball” Russell. I like it! Hope he doesn’t get served on Thanksgiving.

  95. 4evaRaider Says:

    I would if they paid me b/c then I would have a never-ending supply of shizzzitt tickets!!! =)

  96. Trolls 35 Raiders 0 Says:

    4evaRaider Says:
    September 24th, 2009 at 8:33 am
    Ummm that WILL B donkeys from dungver,there Happy Troll

    So that’s how it is :?: Well let’s do this :?: If the “DENVER BRONCOS” :cool: wins on Sunday :idea: you have to pay homage to them :cool: and cannot call them :cool: names till the next matchup with the “faderz” :mrgreen: If they :cool: lose to the “faderz” :mrgreen: I will pay homage to them :mrgreen: and not call them names until the next game. Do we have a bet :?:

  97. jhill Says:

    That’s back to back weeks that Kawakami is leading the pack waiving the Raider flag.

    Kawakami and MaddenRaider?????

    I think that should tell everyone something right there.

    Sit back and enjoy the ride!

  98. SR Raider Says:

    “The underneath throw, though, has become a staple in every offense.”

    Ouch. These are the throws Russell has the most trouble with. We need Schilens and JLH back fast.

  99. 4evaRaider Says:

    Yes Sir Happy Troll

    WE HAVE A BET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  100. 4evaRaider Says:

    4evaRaider Says:
    September 24th, 2009 at 8:54 am
    Yes Sir Happy Troll

    WE HAVE A BET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  101. Trolls 35 Raiders 0 Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    September 24th, 2009 at 8:35 am
    hey there Happy Troll

    I meant what I said and I said what I meant to say.

    Raiders 35, Trolls 0

    Kyle “the pedofile” Orton :evil: will get outplayed by JaMarcus “Butterball” Russell :lol: on Sunday. you’ll see

    See my :cool: post to 4ever :cool: Do we have a bet :?: :lol:

    BTW I :cool: am guilty of posting too fast :oops: Just call me “Speedy Gone-Troll-ez” :lol:

  102. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Hope he doesn’t get served on Thanksgiving.

    ***

    SR: Dallas fans will be eating crow on Thanksgiving, not turkey.

  103. Lowdown_in_Beijing Says:

    Big Easy (JRuss) is truly relaxed.

    Unsure if it comforts or concerns me…

    Remember Montanna on a game winning Super Bowl drive pointing out John Candy in th crowd while in the huddle? That’s GOOD Relax….

    Jeff Geroge getting pounded for 7 sacks against the Chiefs on Gruden’s opener and brushing it off is BAD Relax.

    I’m not asking Big Easy to sound upbeat like Brett Farve, down to earth like Manning, or robotic gospel singer like Kurt Warner: I just pray he learns the playbook and improves his accuracey-if he can’t hit the short patterns, no way he lobs one down field….when that happends, the safeties move up, the run and short routes go away…and we punt.

    Make the throw Big E.

  104. Crimedog Says:

    JaHamhock Russell. From the looks of it, the only weights he’s been hittin are maple bar curls.

  105. RaiderRockstar Says:

    “Kyle Orton, to me, got pigeonholed coming out of Chicago,” said former quarterback Joe Theismann. “People didn’t want to give him a lot of credit. . . . But he wins. And he knows how to make the big play. This game is about chunks of yards. Football is a game of big plays now.”

    ***

    Erectile Kyle better find a way to lose in style. Our defense is bringing the heat and is willing to go the extra mile. after the game dungver fans will have a look on their faces, like they just stepped in a fresh pile

  106. 4evaRaider Says:

    4evaRaider Says:
    September 24th, 2009 at 8:56 am
    4evaRaider Says:
    September 24th, 2009 at 8:54 am
    Yes Sir Happy Troll

    WE HAVE A BET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    ************************************************************

    Just want 2 make sure you see this Happy Troll!!!

  107. wattsbrando Says:

    Until Russell learns to look off a safety and throw a fake pump every once in a while he’s going to struggle…period…add some work ethic…reduce the weight…study study study…and maybe he can redeem himself…I look at Mark Sanchez and I see someone on the other side of the spectrum…the dude is a rookie and they’re throwing the whole playbook at him..he’s looking off safeties, commanding the huddle, calling audibles…Russell is still working on accuracy…absolutely ridiculous…

  108. RaiderRockstar Says:

    testing?

  109. RaiderKen Says:

    So Troll who is them? Sounds like you could take it both ways as you usually do. Say who you’ll pay homage to.

  110. SR Raider Says:

    “…in the last two weeks, Russell has been the quarterback of a team that was behind, and then put them back in the lead with a touchdown drive with less than three minutes to play in the game.”

    This is the only part of JR’s game that is encouraging. Hopefully he can build on that.

  111. Trolls 35 Raiders 0 Says:

    4evaRaider Says:
    September 24th, 2009 at 8:56 am
    4evaRaider Says:
    September 24th, 2009 at 8:54 am
    Yes Sir Happy Troll

    WE HAVE A BET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    ************************************************************

    Just want 2 make sure you see this Happy Troll!!!

    We :cool: can still talk smack before the game. Right:?:

  112. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    September 24th, 2009 at 9:32 am
    last year Raider fans were saying it wasn’t fair to compare Russell to Ryan or Flacco.

    this year they’re already saying it’s not fair to compare him with Stafford or Sanchez.

    who will it be next year?

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Are you provoking me? The answer in Danny Southwick. Lets hope he is still a Raider.

  113. hellsbells Says:

    As glad as I am to see Huff starting I wish we could get Mitchell out there on running downs. I want to see this guy light people up. Bring Huff in after first down. We might have a log jam a saftey now:)

  114. RaiderRockstar Says:

    last year Raider fans were saying it wasn’t fair to compare Russell to Ryan or Flacco.

    this year they’re already saying it’s not fair to compare him with Stafford or Sanchez.

    who will it be next year?

    not many good QB’s came out of the 2007 draft class. Brady Quinn & Trent Edwards are struggling as well, but Edwards isn’t holding that offense back. He has all the tools imo. 5 new starters on the O-Line and Terrell Owens in the huddle & locker room can’t breed success. Especially considering they just fired the OC a week before the opener, Marshawn Lynch is suspended and they play against the toughest division in football.

  115. RaiderRockstar Says:

    BSJ: If Tom Cable doesn’t win at least 7 games in a weak division, Danny Southwick might make the leap from intern to Head Coach…

  116. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    September 24th, 2009 at 9:33 am
    …Danny Southwick might make the leap from intern to Head Coach…

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Thus the contruction underway on his website?

    Or he could be a GM type, our version of Theo Epstein.

  117. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    You need WR’s who know their routes for a QB to be successful and our Wide Outs are not cutting it yet. To his credit, JR has not thrown them under the bus. Takes two to connect.

  118. RaiderRockstar Says:

    bells: I agree. everybody in here knows that I’m a big Michael Huff supporter, but I agree with Tom Cable in that we should leave him in the role he’s currently excelled at. passing downs.

    Mike Mitchell should be our best safety against the run. Cable brought up the Lott/Tatum comparisons. If Branch, Eugene or even Huff are better in run support M&M was a complete waste of a draft pick, not just a reach!

  119. r8eray Says:

    Like I said before and I’ll say it again.. I highly recommend we we trade or make an offer to Clevland (Anderson)or even Philly (Vick) before trade deadline.
    Also one more thing..We need someone at left tackle also!!
    Now for my opinion on Sundays game against the donkeys, we need to establish the run early in the game to set up play action. We need more screen passes Dmac and let him do his thing in open space! Give Jruss some short slant routes maybe a couple down the field if he is successful with the short ones.

  120. ottocrat Says:

    I’ve been pretty hard on JaBlumpkin this week. Maybe he will have a breakout game. Who knows? But, all I have to do is go back to the MNF game. After he threw that INT, to kill the promising opening drive, my buddy noticed something from our seats. Usually, after a QB throws a pick, he’ll sit and look at some stills of the last play. Or have a powwow with their coach. Or…something, anything. No, not Russle. He was just sitting on the bench. Watching the game. A spectator, like the rest of us. The incompletions last week were horrendous, but that’s the image he’ll have to erase from my head on Sunday.

  121. vegas raider Says:

    jhill Says:
    September 24th, 2009 at 8:53 am
    That’s back to back weeks that Kawakami is leading the pack waiving the Raider flag.

    Kawakami and MaddenRaider?????

    I think that should tell everyone something right there.

    Sit back and enjoy the ride!

    *****************************

    No kidding bro, the two least likely of supporters!!!

    I think MaddenRaider is ready to give Cable a contract extension, lol.

  122. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    To establish the run, we need to pass fist to get the out of the 8-9 in the box. Otherwise the run gets stuffed.

    Repost:
    I saw a lot of near catches and drops that should have been caught. Both need to get in sync.

  123. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    The Yankees reek.

  124. RaiderRockstar Says:

    BSJ: nice Red Sox reference. didn’t Tom Cable say that the Raiders are more like the Yankees in his press conf though?

    Even at 90-61, Boston is 6 games behind NY.

    the Raiders, like the Yankees, are a team that you either love or hate. there is no in between.

  125. r8eray Says:

    Mabe it’s a love hate relationship??

  126. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Although Jeter did go to MICHIGAN

  127. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Derek Anderson signed a three-year, $24 million contract prior to the 2008 season. He’ll be a free agent after the 2010 season, if Brady Quinn doesn’t get yanked before then.

    Anderson is an expensive backup. If Cleveland is sold on Lady Quinn they should trade DA and eliminate a possible QB controversy. DA was a Pro Bowler in 2007. He’s from the West Coast (Oregon). Has a big arm and when his contract is up he’ll only be 28 years old.

    If Russell plays like cr@p the rest of this year and again next year Al Davis will pull the plug and sign a free agent. That will be four years in his six year contract. the Raiders aren’t ready to give up on Russell unless they see 30 more starts that resemble his first 19.

  128. vegas raider Says:

    I guess Jason Whitlock isn’t a fan of Jamarcus, just read this:

    “JaMarcus Russell makes Ryan Leaf look like a Hall of Famer.

    Do not get caught up in the hype that Russell’s game-winning drive against the Chiefs is some sort of sign that he’s a competent NFL quarterback. He’s not.

    Never in my life have I seen QB play as bad as I witnessed from Off-The-Marcus Russell. From his demeanor, body language and the way he trotted off the field after every Oakland three-and-out series, Russell looked nothing like an NFL quarterback last week.

    Until his game-winning drive, Off-The-Marcus had completed three of 17 passes for 42 yards. He missed countless open receivers. He never once read a defense. Despite being as big as most left tackles, Off-The-Marcus never threatened to tuck the ball and run.

    He got lucky at the end of the game. The Chiefs softened their defense and the refs bailed him out with a questionable late-hit call.

  129. RaiderRockstar Says:

    the refs bailed him out with a questionable late-hit call.

    ***

    yes, because the refs just love the Raiders!

    we never get screwed by the refs. pfft

  130. 4evaRaider Says:

    Yes we can still talk smack till then

  131. 4evaRaider Says:

    If the donkeys lose 2 da Raiders then he has 2 pay homaGE 2 the winning team which will be da Raiders.Thats how I am taking the bet.

  132. vegas raider Says:

    Rockstar,

    I thought it was a good call, always suprised when we get the better side of a call, but you can’t just extend your arms on the QB’s helmet, especially if he is laying on the ground.

    And Jamarcus made them pay, somehow, someway. Off-the-Markus, lol.

  133. 4evaRaider Says:

    LOL…there is no-lack of comedians in and around the NATION THE ONLY NATION,thats 4sure!!!

  134. Silver-n-Black666 Says:

    Is it Sunday yet?

  135. Richochet Says:

    In Kawakami’s case, it’s called a ’setup’.

    The big “Here I thought they would” which lets him morph into “Should have known better”.

    Writers love to do that for the easy stretch of the schedule, against weak teams, hedging their bets.

    MaddenRaider? He’s just the board Waffle. Lots of syrup is needed to mask the blandness.

  136. 4evaRaider Says:

    Derek Anderson huh Rockstar???

    Well of course I’m pulling HARD 4 Jmac but…

    well nevermind I dont wanna say but…

    Anderson dont seem 2bad =)

  137. Raider Headbutt Says:

    So who thinks we are going to win sunday? And I dont mean that stay positive of course we are going to win stuff or the we are going to win just because we are fans stuff.

    Who actually thinks we win sunday and why?

  138. Richochet Says:

    Kind of hard to argue with anything he said, right?
    JR did miss wide open receivers all game long.
    He did, as many pointed out, act all blase’ as if it was no big deal.
    He did benefit, big time, from a shaky late hit call, that changed a 3rd and long to a 15 yd. gain, and a 1st down.

    Considering he writes for KC, he basically dissed KC by saying they gave the game away.

    Which they did.
    ==========================
    vegas raider Says:
    September 24th, 2009 at 10:08 am
    I guess Jason Whitlock isn’t a fan of Jamarcus, just read this:

    “JaMarcus Russell makes Ryan Leaf look like a Hall of Famer.

    Do not get caught up in the hype that Russell’s game-winning drive against the Chiefs is some sort of sign that he’s a competent NFL quarterback. He’s not.

    Never in my life have I seen QB play as bad as I witnessed from Off-The-Marcus Russell. From his demeanor, body language and the way he trotted off the field after every Oakland three-and-out series, Russell looked nothing like an NFL quarterback last week.

    Until his game-winning drive, Off-The-Marcus had completed three of 17 passes for 42 yards. He missed countless open receivers. He never once read a defense. Despite being as big as most left tackles, Off-The-Marcus never threatened to tuck the ball and run.

    He got lucky at the end of the game. The Chiefs softened their defense and the refs bailed him out with a questionable late-hit call.

  139. Richochet Says:

    big chill Says:
    September 24th, 2009 at 10:43 am
    is it a sell out sunday anyone hear?
    ==================
    So far I believe not.
    They have until today..not sure what time. 2:00 P.M. rings a bell,…but that might be the ice cream truck.

    Hey?? There’s Russell..buying up all the Loco Taco’s…damn.
    I was in the mood for one, too.

  140. Trolls 35 Raiders 0 Says:

    4evaRaider Says:
    September 24th, 2009 at 10:31 am
    LOL…there is no-lack of comedians in and around the NATION THE ONLY NATION,thats 4sure!!!

    :lol: Maybe :?: the only nashun, but will be swallowed up by the “BRONCO UNIVERSE” :evil:

  141. big chill Says:

    is it a sell out sunday anyone hear?

  142. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    We’ll be 2-1 come Monday. And, it will be fun to watch you so called fans in here nitpicking Russell’s stats. I’ll be celebrating, with my authentic number 2 jersey that I’m about to pick up a the Arden Mall in Sac in a little while.

  143. Lynn from Snot Says:

    the refs bailed him out? Since when did the refs start helping the Raiders?

  144. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Who actually thinks we win sunday and why?

    ***

    I think we’ll win. We were 1 bad call away from a possible win against Sandy Eggo. Maybe we get in FG range and Seabass boots a long one through? Maybe we get the ball first in OT and score? nobody knows.

    We beat KC, even with our worst offensive performance in quite some time.

    Rivers & Cassel are much better QB’s than Orton. Denver’s win against Cincy was essentially a fluke and the Browns are a terrible football team with Lady Quinn at the helm and Rob Ryan running the defense.

    Matthew Berry (ESPN fantasy football guru) suggested that fantasy owners should sit Brandon Marshall this week. In 3 seasons with the donks he’s never had a 100 yard game or even a touchdown against us!

    Raiders win another dogfight 10-7 or maybe even 13-10 again …

  145. Kirk Says:

    With Seymour and Ellis our defense is so good, we will be in just about every game. But our offensive scheme is so screwed up, I don’t know whether we will win or not.

    Bush should be the starting running back, our play calling is pretty poor, and then there is the erratic play of Russell….

  146. Raider Headbutt Says:

    Well I hope your right. This game is huge for us. I can see Miami beating SD after what I saw monday night and if we win that means 1st place!

  147. 4evaRaider Says:

    We will WIN Headbutt b/c JLH will score on a punt-return AND a lil5 yard slant from Jmac!!!

  148. Richochet Says:

    Raider Headbutt Says:
    September 24th, 2009 at 10:38 am
    So who thinks we are going to win sunday? And I dont mean that stay positive of course we are going to win stuff or the we are going to win just because we are fans stuff.

    Who actually thinks we win sunday and why?
    ===========================
    I think Nolan watched KC’s game, and is drooling at the idea of sending his guys right at Russell, knowing he gets easily flustered. That’s obviously nothing new, but Nolan has apparently stepped up Denver’s defense, big time.
    While it’s only two games, Denver is currently second in the league for total defense.

    Denvers offense isn’t that good, but rattling Russell will offset that. Unless Russell can get settled in quickly, and make a few completions in the first series, I think Raider boobirds will be out in force.

    I say Denver wins, 24-10.

    Also predict Russell will again blame someone/anyone..but himself.

  149. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Richochet, congratulations. You’ve been in here 72 hours straight, averaging a good one comment per 3 minutes. I’m sure you’ve set a record, and that some computer geek website has a t shirt for you or something.

  150. Raider Headbutt Says:

    See I said this before, our offense is struggling enough as it is, and to be facing a new Denver D (3-4) it might be a long day for us. Hopefully the D can keep us in it again.

  151. alisgod Says:

    man, is it me or Mr. is now a big time follower? It is so much nicer with you being more positive on here.

  152. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Kirk: it isn’t the playcalling bro

    players gotta execute.

    I think Russell will be better this week. not sure by how much though. just know it can’t be worse than what we’ve seen

    I don’t expect to see a “coming out party” of 300 yards or 3 TD’s.

    Maybe a turnover free game completing 60 percent of his passes and a TD or 2?

    that should be good enough to beat dungver …

  153. Jombus1 Says:

    Mr. McDonald wrote….”In fact, you could make a case that if you wanted to sabatoge a No. 1 pick, the way to do do it would entail a contract impasse, two head coaches, having three play-callers in two years and giving him dicey protection and an support cast of young receivers.” Only you J-mac, could so eloquently in one sentence hit it right on the nail! I am just hoping JaMarcus proves me wrong. The only concern I have is the condensed playbook in the passing game. If we are using a condensed playbook for the passing game, why the hell are we throwing the ball 25-30 times a game? I feel we need to RUN, RUN, RUN, and then play action pass in a two tightend set to give Jamarcus more confidence in his passing.

  154. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Richochet, glad you made a prediction.

    I say Raiders win 24-14. I will be here no matter what happens. Will you? Doubt it.

  155. RaiderRockstar Says:

    in 2 divisional games:

    Howard – 17 tackles
    Morrison – 15 tackles
    Brown – 13 tackles

    amazing how they’re able to get to a ballcarrier when our D-Line is solid.

    I don’t hear anybody calling for us to cut Morrison & Brown in favor of Frantz Joseph and Jasper Brinkley anymore!

  156. Mistabrown Says:

    lmao

    # Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    September 24th, 2009 at 8:31 am

    Erik Pears is 6′ 8″…how many balls will Janormous throw into his helmet?

  157. 4evaRaider Says:

    The 2 games we have played so far have been all out AFC WEST head-banging wars.Meanwhile donkleys have played the Browns&Bengals.What dont kill-ya makes you stronger,so we must be very strong indeed and like I said donkeys have played Browns&Bengals.IMO donkeys have no idea how HARD we are gonna punch em in the mouth all day long.I dont think they can take it

  158. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    We’re a running team. Smash mouth. Our team does not rest on Russell’s shoulders. It’s hard for smash mouth teams to win it all and I don’t think we’ll win a SB again with Davis in charge, anyway. But I think we can be a competitive team, and I think we have one now. This blame Russell for everything campaign is just stupid, and a lot of it is racist. Al Davis will always be the reason that we’re not on the top tier of the league. Russell does not build this team. And it will never be good enough to win a Super Bowl. And, if Cable comes close to getting it there, something he’d have to bang heads with Al constantly to do, Al would just run him out. That’s the way it is. But Cable is a real coach and we’re a good team now, and as long as we run the ball and avoid that stupid prevent defense, Russell’s fine. And, he’s only going to get better.

  159. Mistabrown Says:

    Too bad Cable cant get 8/9 out of the box so we can be a legitimate running team. Instead he has to let JaMeatball throw 25 times a game and pray.

  160. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    AlisFraud, let’s get one thing straight: I’m a Cable follower. I’m sold on this guy, period. Like him. I’ve got a Gruden, Kiffie like man crush on him. All I ask for is that our coach have the huevos to run the football, and he’s doing it.

  161. Raider Dell Says:

    Madden Raider

    Hope all is well.

    My initial shock was real and pleasant to read your comments over the last week.

    I started to think is this the Real Madden or a set up. Has Madden Raider gone over the edge. I began to think maybe you fell and hit your head, or a tragic event in your life, a friend or family member changed the way you looked at all things about your life.

    I hope your OK.

    So let me get this straight, I’ve been on this blog off and on for 3 years. The comments you have continually said were the following;

    1)Your hatred for Davis is without question very well documented.

    2)You commented many times that Cable was a puppet and he could never be like Gruden, or Kiffin.

    3) You commented that this team as off late as September of this year, was a 3 -4 win team.

    4)You commented that we would run the ball fewer than 15 times a game, due to Cable being a puppet. (AL’s offense.)

    5)You said on many occasions that, if the Raiders lost their opening game, the Raiders would never reach the playoffs and have another losing season. This was based on a record of futility of opening losses during the last 6 seasons.

    I have and many others who have tried to comment and ask you generally decent questions have been rebuffed by your slight of hand and been called many undistinguished names, like moron, fag, idiot, stupid, kool-aid drinkers, shills and many others.

    So my long diatribe comment boils down to this, are you crazy or are you serious, about your most recent comments.

    I can only ask for a reply back. As usual if you do not chose to, thanks for reading my long winded comment.

  162. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Cable also criticized Al’s prevent defense, in a subtle way, albeit, but he did. And, notice the D was scrapped the following week. And notice we won. Cable is for real. In Cable I Trust.

  163. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Instead he has to let JaMeatball throw 25 times a game and pray.

    ***

    27 times a game.

  164. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    RaiderDell, dont’ care what you think of me, bud. I don’t have to prove anything to you. I’ve been a Raider fan since Nikes only came in blue and gold.

  165. Mistabrown Says:

    lmao @ being a Cable follower & buying a JaMeatloaf Russell jersey!

    MR, you have become priceless! Now you are one of the koolaid drinking nut jobs you been criticizing for the last 2 years.

    You cant even make this stuff up!

  166. Mistabrown Says:

    And pray..

    # RaiderRockstar Says:
    September 24th, 2009 at 11:20 am

    Instead he has to let JaMeatball throw 25 times a game and pray.

    ***

    27 times a game.

  167. 4evaRaider Says:

    4evaRaider Says:
    September 24th, 2009 at 11:11 am
    The 2 games we have played so far have been all out AFC WEST head-banging wars.Meanwhile donkleys have played the Browns&Bengals.What dont kill-ya makes you stronger,so we must be very strong indeed and like I said donkeys have played Browns&Bengals.IMO donkeys have no idea how HARD we are gonna punch em in the mouth all day long.I dont think they can take it

  168. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    MB, I am indeed a Cable kool aid drinker. Got to believe in something. I believe in Tom Cable. Think he’s Gruden and Kiffin with a dose of Madden. And even a tinge of Flores. I even see a little Obama in him.

  169. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    MB, Cable proved me wrong. For the past 6 years, no coach has proved me wrong. And, I supported Kiffin. Turner, Shell, Callahan, from ‘03 I said those guys wouldn’t get anything done and I was right. I thought Cable was a puppet. He’s not. He’s far from it. I call it as I see it. Always have. Now that the Raiders are better, I’m calling it. And since I’m a fan, it’s made being a fan funner. I can see this team improving now. I’m even shelling out a little hard earned cash on it. 200 for the Russell jersey I’m about to pick up at the mall in a few.

  170. Raider Dell Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    September 24th, 2009 at 11:20 am
    RaiderDell, dont’ care what you think of me, bud. I don’t have to prove anything to you. I’ve been a Raider fan since Nikes only came in blue and gold.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    Madden Raider

    Thanks for the reply, I think.

    I never questioned if your a Raider fan, just your constant negativity as one.

    I’ll let this be a lesson, even the most negatitive comments from you can be turned into something positive, until Al is blamed again.

  171. Mistabrown Says:

    MR,
    Cable is his own guy so much that J Walker has been ready to play since the opener and Cable wont play him. So JaMeatloaf is out there with 2 rookies and JLH, or Watkins just because AL wants the young guys in there with a willing and able VET on the bench!

    Way to handicap your Qb who cant even execute a screen pass! Way to go Cable!

  172. Mistabrown Says:

    If given the chance I bet Cable would break 0bama in half like he did that asst.

    lmao @ seeing Barback in Cable!!!

    :D

  173. RaiderRockstar Says:

    MR, Cable isn’t anything like Barack.

    Tom Cable has goals, a backbone and common sense.

  174. RaiderRockstar Says:

    BBB: Fargas will be inactive every week unless McFadden or Bush get hurt. We need Louis Rankin for kickoff returns until Nick Miller is 100 percent healthy. Since Fargas has zero value on special teams, he’ll continue to ride the pine imo

  175. 4evaRaider Says:

    LOL

  176. BART Bridge Blues Says:

    Anybody know if Fargas is playing this week?

    If they can start putting the ball in Fargas’ hands during the 2nd and 3rd quarters, I think the Raiders can win the game. They need Fargas back in that running corps to set the tone. Clearly Cable does not trust Bush/McFadden enough to let them carry the load, like Fargas did last year.

  177. Mistabrown Says:

    MR,
    How does a 6′6 Qb hit Glen Dorsey in the gut on a screen pass to DMAC? Cable is running the ball even with 8/9 in the box because Russell is a MEATHEAD head not because hes giving AL the middle finger, wakeup man!

  178. 4evaRaider Says:

    I voted 4him Rockstar but that was still hilarious!!!

  179. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    RockStar, you can think what you want. I know you’re still mad because Obama won. But it’s true. Cable has Obama qualities. He’s bringing change to Oakland, just as Obama’s bringing change to America. And, both are being undermined and sabotaged. Both, however, are persevering and will prevail.

  180. alisgod Says:

    so funny to see Mr. Pinata riding the Cable wagon now….lmao

  181. Mistabrown Says:

    BART, who really cares? We hope not. Most of us anyway..

  182. Oakglenn Says:

    Mistabrown Says:
    September 23rd, 2009 at 8:30 pm

    Walker didnt play in the pre-season you brain dead buffoon.

    Mistabrown Says:
    September 23rd, 2009 at 8:44 pm

    No AlisNotGod,

    Im aware Walker played about 3 plays against NO.
    ———————————————–

    This guy can’t remember what he said 15 minutes before.

  183. alisgod Says:

    fyi Mr. Pinata,

    Cable aint nothing like Gruden or Kitten. Cable doesnt have a giantic ego like those 2 morons. Cable is much closer to Flores than any of those 2 yoyo’s who basically used the raiders to get somewhere else.

    You should man up and publicly admit you were wrong about the Raiders the past year. BTW, Raider Dell is dead on about you.

  184. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    MB, Al would prefer to throw the ball anyway, no matter how bad Russell’s arm is. Running the ball consistently is always a middle finger to the old man. Personally, I think Cable is running the ball because our receivers are mostly unreliable. Russell was hitting Miller on some nice routes against SD. KC shut that down. Our receiving corp isn’t great, but as Murphy steps up and Shillinse gets back on the field, you’re going to see Russell throwing the ball more. You guys that are trying to blame Russell for the SD loss or for not beating KC 55-0 just have it all ass backward.

  185. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Tom Cable is being undermined and sabotaged?

    by who? Al Davis?

    how will he prevail from that? get fired and revert back to OL coach?

    please explain this MR

  186. Mistabrown Says:

    Enjoy that JaMeatloaf jersey MR…and remember your #2

  187. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    AlisFraud, that’s your opinion, man. I see Gruden and Kiffin in Cable.

  188. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    RaiderRockStar, did Cable get into a physical altercation with another coach or not? Are you still of the belief that the incident never happened? If you’re a fan of this team who doesn’t have your head buried completely in the sand, you know that every coach here is being sabotaged. Either by someone above them, or below them.

  189. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    MB, wow. Obama’s approval rating is down. Big deal. There’s not even an election this year. Let me know when Republicans take control of Washington again. They won’t, until Bush is so far out of America’s collective memory that people wont’ be able to recognize him. I’d say that day will be here in, I dunno, 20 years?

  190. raiderkoolaid Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider I don’t want to fight with you, and I agree Obama is bringing change. The question is,”What is that change?” Any new leader is going to bring change, but change can be for good or for bad. If that change is selling out peoples jobs and livelyhoods for the sake of environmental problems that don’t really exist, then it is change that will only damage our society in the long run.

  191. alisgod Says:

    exactly how is Cable similar to Gruden or Kitten?

    Kitten lies at the weekly press conference…Cable tells it like it is.

    Kitten thinks he knows everything and fights with Al….Cable learns to work with Al.

    Kitten getting his a$$ kicked every where he has been. Cable yet to be determined.

    You’re right they are very similar.

  192. RaiderRockstar Says:

    MR, Al Davis certainly has his favorites. Most of them are guys who listen to what he has to say and respect him. Others are former players who have decided to stick around and be loyal to Davis and the team.

    Napa Police are investigating the matter. nothing has been revealed to date. Cable involvement is just a rumor at this point. Cable said “everything will be fine” “no punches were thrown” “nothing happened” and “the facts haven’t all came out yet”

    Cable will not survive despite Al Davis. it’s a partnership that is glued together with trust. If Cable gave Davis the middle finger he’d be out on the street tomorrow. believe that. let’s not forget who built this team. did Davis resign Fargas and draft both McFadden & Bush to be decoys in a pass happy offense? He wants to run the ball and throw it over the top. thats no secret. he drafted Russell, Miller, Heyward-Bey and brought in Walker to have an effective passing game. Walker flunked and Chaz Schilens was a nice surprise. Murphy is also stepping up in Chaz’s absence.

    We have all the pieces in place to be a BALANCED offense. Until the passing attack can hold up thier end of the bargain, yes… I agree with you. run the ball. stick with what works

  193. KoolKell Says:

    If Tom Brady were drafted by the Raiders, do you think he’d be the Tom Brady he is today? I don’t.

  194. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    AlisFraud, the similarities I see between Gruden, Kiffin, and Cable are the desire to change things here, and to be smart enough to do it under the supervision of a meddlesome owner that’s just about impossible for anyone without a super strong head to work for. Kiffin went a little too far. Too young, too stupid. But I liked his ideas. Cable is basically an older Kiffin. He’s got every intention of controlling the locker room and the sideline, and being THE MAN in Oakland, while at the same time he knows what not to do with Al. He knows how to work him.

  195. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Raiderkoolaid, you said you don’t want to fight with me. So therefore, I don’t have a response to any of your political points. We’ll let it go. Cable reminds me of Obama in ways. It’s my opinion. I’ll leave it at that.

  196. alisgod Says:

    the only thing Kitten is ever good for is convince his followers that he is on the right track when he has never proven he can win…

    1. Some stupid Raiders fans like you and feminine knapkin still think Kitten was taking us back on the right track when he had a lousy record here.

    2. Some stupid volunteers fans are ready to erect a statue for him when he has a 1-2 record.

    the local sports analyst here in Tenn asked why the Vols are celebrating when Kitten never intended to try and win that game against the Gators. They want to know why with 10 mins left and down 3 scores you decide to run and run and run.

  197. alisgod Says:

    Pinata,

    the point is Kitten dont know how to work with people. Even his own brother admits kitten has that problem. Even his highschool coach admitted Kitten acts like he knows more than the coach.

    Sorry but please dont slander Cable by saying he is the same as Kitten. I have been a cable supporter since the first tiem I listened to his weekly presser last year. You’re a fraud bro. Admit it.

  198. raiderkoolaid Says:

    I respect your answer The Real Madden Raider. God put Obama in charge of this country, so I pray for the best of success for him in leading this country to prosparity.

  199. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    AlisFraud, you’ve made your case about Kiffin, and I’m not buying. If you’re still rambling on about him to convince other readers, suit yourself. But from my standpoint, you’re like a parrot that wont’ shut up. I see similarities between Cable and Kiffin. And, your arguments have not changed my point of view. Move along to another crusade, bud.

  200. Plunketthead Says:

    You better order your Cable jersey now before they run out. I ordered a white double 0 right after the discharge via ambulance game. I just got off the phone with them after ordering a black double 0 Cable jersey for home games and she told me they were selling like veggie tacos at a deadhead concert. They will run out in a few days and China will not be able to send another order for 8 weeks.

  201. Richochet Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    September 24th, 2009 at 11:01 am
    Richochet, congratulations. You’ve been in here 72 hours straight, averaging a good one comment per 3 minutes. I’m sure you’ve set a record, and that some computer geek website has a t shirt for you or something.

    ===================
    First off, aren’t YOU the one who was being accused of what you just accused me of? lol..yeah..IT WAS YOU.
    What? Short memory? Or just..really…really..slow?

    And what happened to the “I’m feeling all out of sorts. You put me in such a tizzy..makes my makeup run, I’m so flustered. You are on ignore. I’m not going to read..anything you write..EVER..EVER..EVER AGAIN. I’m not..I’AM NOT. And I’m NEVER going to post to you..I swear on my Barbie doll..EVER AGAIN.

    Well, pumpkin, that didn’t last long, did it?

    Now is when you’re reduced to the ultimate low. Where you converse with OTHERS about me..where you feel brave with the ‘circlejerk support group’..where you try and convince yourself that you COULD come up with something to say that “stings” but you choose not to.
    Of course, then tea is served, lol.

    Now..shut up, and wave that white flag..and get back in your hole.

    Oh..wait. That’s right. YOU’RE NOT READING THIS, SO YOU CAN’T REPLY.

    Well then..I guess that’s the last I’ll hear from Waffle, isn’t it? :)

  202. raiderkoolaid Says:

    Daniel 2:21 “And he changeth the times and the seasons: he removeth kings, and setteth up kings:…

  203. Plunketthead Says:

    single 0 not 00 I mispoke

  204. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    kool aid, God did not put Obama in charge of this country. The voters did. To think that God even cares who becomes president of the United States is blasphemous in and of itself.

  205. Raider Headbutt Says:

    How much of a difference do you think having Pears in is going to make in the game on sunday?

  206. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Al Davis certainly has his favorites. Most of them are guys who listen to what he has to say and respect him. Others are former players who have decided to stick around and be loyal to Davis and the team.

    Napa Police are investigating the matter. nothing has been revealed to date. Cable involvement is just a rumor at this point. Cable said “everything will be fine” “no punches were thrown” “nothing happened” and “the facts haven’t all came out yet”

    Cable will not survive despite Al Davis. it’s a partnership that is glued together with trust. If Cable gave Davis the middle finger he’d be out on the street tomorrow. believe that. let’s not forget who built this team. did Davis resign Fargas and draft both McFadden & Bush to be decoys in a pass happy offense? He wants to run the ball and throw it over the top. thats no secret. he drafted Russell, Miller, Heyward-Bey and brought in Walker to have an effective passing game. Walker flunked and Chaz Schilens was a nice surprise. Murphy is also stepping up in Chaz’s absence.

    We have all the pieces in place to be a BALANCED offense. Until the passing attack can hold up thier end of the bargain, yes… I agree with you. run the ball. stick with what works

  207. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Richochet, guess who’s back on ignore? Sorry you wasted so much time with that novel. Just keep rereading it yourself, since nobody else is going to.

  208. RaiderRockstar Says:

    How much of a difference do you think having Pears in is going to make in the game on sunday?

    ***

    zero sacks for Elvis Dumervil!

  209. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Alright guys, I’m off for some lunch and then to pick up my black Russell jersey. Richochet, see you in a few hours. I know you’ll be here.

  210. Richochet Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    September 24th, 2009 at 10:45 am
    We’ll be 2-1 come Monday. And, it will be fun to watch you so called fans in here nitpicking Russell’s stats. I’ll be celebrating, with my authentic number 2 jersey that I’m about to pick up a the Arden Mall in Sac in a little while.
    ====================
    Wow.

    ARE YOU SERIOUS??

    Russell was signed 2 1/2 YEARS AGO. I would venture to say that most Raider “fans” who buy jerseys? Very likely bought it sometime shortly after the signing, or after he became permanent starter.

    But now, after a win? in the 3rd YEAR? NOW is when you ask your mommy to buy you a Russell jersey?

    Pretty funny seeing everyone laugh at you jumping ON THE BANDWAGON after a win..and admitting that NOW you’re going to get a jersey.

    Bandwagon fans…every team has them..and regardless of who they are, or which team they support, they’re the worst fans of all. One week you love them. Next week you can’t stand them. One week you wear the jersey, next week it’s for sale.

    What’s the word for that??? OH YEAH… WAFFLE!!

    Goodone, Real MaddenWaffle ;)

  211. Plunketthead Says:

    Everyone knows Otto would kick my arse and Cables if I showed up wearing a 00 with Cables name.

  212. Richochet Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    September 24th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
    Richochet, guess who’s back on ignore? Sorry you wasted so much time with that novel. Just keep rereading it yourself, since nobody else is going to.

    =========
    I’m confused.
    You’re going to read, or you’re NOT going to read?
    Obviously you read it. (Told you long time ago, worms feel safest hiding in dark places. Good for you, Waffle ;) )

    Also..I thought you stated you WEREN’T going to post to me?
    WTF?? lol..I mean, look above..FIRST YOU STATE I’M ON IGNORE..then on #212..I’m “back on ignore”? lol…then..ON #213, RIGHT AFTER I’M ON IGNORE, YOU POST TO ME.

    You obviously can’t grasp the concept of “IGNORE”.

    See..everyone knows what it really means. Means you got owned, and it’s waving the white flag..but..pumpkin? You continuing what you’re doing now makes you look pathetic.

    Ok..here’s the rules. They are NOT open to interpretation.

    I get to slap you down. You just accept it.
    I get to laugh at your posts. You pretend you didn’t read it.
    I get to torch your silly takes. You get to do what you’re so good at..hide. :)

    I think that sums it up quite nicely. :)

    Hey..congrats on your ‘ON THE BANDWAGON RUSSELL JERSEY’.

    When he gets benched you can then pretend you never bought it. Wait. Considering he’s approaching Biggest Loser size qualifications, you can use his jersey for a small tent afterwards.

    Not a total loss.

  213. 4evaRaider Says:

    not if he couldnt catch you LOL

  214. Plunketthead Says:

    KK—
    Sooner or later the manipulated market will crash.
    Good luck with that.

  215. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Raider Headbutt Says:
    September 24th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
    How much of a difference do you think having Pears in is going to make in the game on sunday?

    =======================================

    Maybe part of its Morris at center (the most important player in the ZBS) but Gallery didn’t seem to be doing all that great after the first half against SD.

    Pears is out of his element at guard so you never know, but I think the Raiders should blow up Denver’s spotty and still adjusting to the 3-4 D.

    THIS could be the break out game fo one of our backs.

  216. Nnamdi21 Says:

    215. Yup. Yet the Republi=can owned media tells us the commie is racking up the largest debt in the history of the world in his 200 days in office. What a joke…

    BTW, in case anyone cares about mroe than Kanye, we’re taking an azz kicking in Afghanistan and our boys are dying for no reason other than the $94 billion were giving to defense and chemical contractors.

    Word

    As always, NEVER take my word for it. Look it up yourself while you can…

  217. Plunketthead Says:

    He might have a nephew in the crowd looking to win favor with 00. I am not taking any chances.

  218. Plunketthead Says:

    new blog post!!

  219. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    JLH, says he’ll play PR/WR on Sun. Chaz says he plans to be ready next week vs. Houston.–D. White’s twitter.

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