Walker waits as passing game struggles
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, September 23rd, 2009 at 5:19 pm in Oakland Raiders.
There’s every chance Javon Walker could get his first chance at substantial playing time and nothing would change.
The incompletions would continue, the lack of timing with JaMarcus Russell would be evident and the Raiders would continue to struggle.
Walker wasn’t sounding off or challenging coach Tom Cable, but he’s read the comments from his boss saying he lacks the burst in and out of breaks to be playing regularly and wanted to on record with his own assessment.
“Ain’t nothing wrong with my in and out, coming out of breaks,” Walker said. “I do it with the best of them. I do it with any other receiver here. Plain and simple.”
Walker would rather be told he’s sitting so the Raiders can develop their young receivers rather than say he can’t play anymore.
“Look, I’m happy, I just want to clear this up right,” Walker said.
Cable didn’t sound as if things would change soon, and and that perhaps Walker would drop even further on the depth chart once Chaz Schilens and Johnnie Lee Higgins return from injury.
“ I think just in terms of the numbers, who has been productive, that’s number one and we’re about to get very healthy there too,” Cable said in reference to Walker’s use.
Let’s face it. What no one is saying aloud here is the Raiders are simply too committed to Darrius Heyward-Bey _ regardless of what he does on the field _ to put a veteran like Walker in the game.
Al Davis wasn’t happy last season with the amount of time veterans like Ronald Curry and Ashley Lelie were getting at the expense of Schilens and Higgins, and now Heyward-Bey and Louis Murphy are added to the mix.
Murphy, with six catches and 118 yards _ second only to Chicago’s Johnny Knox in receiving yardage _ has justified his playing time with production.
Heyward-Bey has one catch for 17 yards, and supposedly he’s opening up areas for other receivers. If that’s the case, they’re not getting wide open for Russell to find them in stride, considering his completion percentage.
Assuming Walker’s role will remain as it is, it will be interesting to see how committed they are to playing Heyward-Bey at all costs when Schilens and Higgins return. Schilens was far and away the Raiders best receiver during training camp, and Higgins the No. 1 threat at the end of last season, both with Russell throiwng the passes.
More news and notes:
– Is it just me or does it seem that Rich Gannon has a lot better handle on what is wrong with the passing of Russell than Russell himself?
– Here was Gannon’s take on the job Tom Cable is doing with the Raiders:
“I give Tom Cable a lot of credit, not a little bit of credit, a lot of credit. He knows exactly what he has in terms of his personnel and he is not going to try to beat you throwing the ball 35 or 40 times. He understands the strength of that football team right now, and last year as well, without question is not the play of the quarterback, it’s the three running backs he has in Darren McFadden, Justin Fargas and Michael Bush.
“And that, combined with the fact that they have an offensive line that was really bad a year ago in terms of pass protection, and with a young quarterback and with inexperience at the wide receivers, he’d be crazy not to run the football. So I tip my hat to Tom Cable and what he’s been able to accomplish the first two weeks of the season. They are a better football team defensively, they can run the ball, and that has to be the M.O. as they head down the road the next six or eight weeks until JaMarcus can come along, until their young receivers can develop.
But I think guys like Greg Ellis and Richard Seymour, their ability to stop the run, something they didn’t do a very good job of a year ago, that has to be the strength of this football team. Tom Cable knows what he has and he’s done a good job the first two weeks in making sure that’s a point of emphasis.”
– And no, Gannon has never wanted to be a fulltime NFL coach. Way too many hours, not enough pay, too much time away from the family. Plus it’s not as if he’s on great terms with the organization right now anyway. I was told they lobbied (unsuccessfully) to keep Gannon off a CBS telecast last season for being too critcial.
He will be the color analyst for the Broncos game along with play-by-play annoucner Ian Eagle.
– Speaking of Gannon, it seems Broncos coach Josh McDaniels has taken an approach similar to the one the Raiders took in 1999 when Jon Gruden told Al Davis he couldn’t win with Jeff George at quarterback. Current Raiders quarterbacks coach Paul Hackett reccomended Gannon, and Gruden had his efficient, error-free leader replacing the freewheeling George.
Kyle Orton has stayed away from mistakes and not been nearly as explosive as predecssor Jay Cutler, but he understands the system and works within its framework.
“You want your guy to take care of the football, score touchdowns and win games,” McDaniels said. “Right now, maybe we haven’t scored quite as many as we’d love to by now but we’re doing for the most part some of those other things pretty well and we’re building on it.”
– McDaniels started his career as a low-level assistant for Bill Belichick in 2001 and did defensive quality control work in 2002 and 2003 when Richard Seymour was a young defensive lineman.
“He was a real sharp guy,” Seymour said. “You could tell early on he was going to climb the ladder.”
McDaniels said dealing with Seymour makes for a unique challenge because every lineman must be prepared to face him because he’ll line up anywhere at any time.
“He’s added a whole other dimension to their defense,” McDaniels said.
– Both Shane Lechler and Sebastian Janikowski agreed Sunday’s win over the Chiefs was the best game they’d ever had in tandem.
Lechler, who hates kicking in Arrowhead Stadium, averaged 56.9 yards on seven punts with a 45.9 net and said if Hiram Eugene had managed to down one punt at the 5-yard line (it trickled into the end zone for his lone touchback) it would have been the best game of his career.
Janikowski, who loves it, as evidenced by a 23-for-26 lifetime mark there, connected from 48 and 54 yards and had four touchbacks. The two kickers created enough field position for the Raiders to allow 409 yards and give up just 10 points.
Janikowski tried to sell the notion that he doesn’t feel any different at Arrowhead than anywhere else.
“Don’t let him fool you,” Lechler said. “He always looks forward to going there.”
Lechler said he had a good warmup and likes kicking in humid weather because he doesn’t waste as much time getting lose and kicking into a net on the sideline.
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September 23rd, 2009 at 5:13 pm
Good
September 23rd, 2009 at 5:14 pm
Let the yougnsters play. Shoot, let Todd Watkins play. “Jivin” was getting no seperation in the pre season. We have been thru this before with wide outs. See Curry, Ron
September 23rd, 2009 at 5:19 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 5:07 pm
Richochet,
Wouldn’t it be more productive and mentally healthy for you to spend your time talking with other 49er fans about the possiblity of going 3-0?
Frank Gore ran for a whole heap of yards and your team is in 1st place…a strong 1st place. Singletary doing a nice job.
So why spend your time here, telling us over and over and over why JaMarcus (or whatever nickname you come up with) should be on the bench.
For a guy that doesn’t like the Raiders, you seem preoccupied with the QB.
I really don’t get it. But spend your time as you will
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Why bring up the Niners?
Already told you who my favorite team is..go look it up.
Being in the bay area, have seen what the Niners are doing, this is true.
Probably not a good comparison at this point, is it?
How is it the Yorks actually look to be decent owners?
Because Al is just so bad..
How is it the Niners hired one of the most electric motivating hard core coaches in Singletary, where he’ll probably be there for the next ten years, minimum, where the Raiders have set records both for the amount of head coaches hired, and the futility of those same coaches?
How is it Frank Gore, in one game, has more yards than all of your ‘MUCH HERALDED” rbs have in two full games, combined?
How is it the Niners are actively pursueing a new stadium deal, with all the bells and whistles, while the Raiders are doing nothing?
These are questions, among others, that inquiring minds want to know..
September 23rd, 2009 at 5:19 pm
JLH has been put on ice by Cable. He didn’t get many looks in the S.D game or the preseason.
September 23rd, 2009 at 5:21 pm
860Todd Christensen Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 5:12 pm
SNB, I’m with you, the team is finding its nitch, but rough waters are before us, I say 9/6, we have the tallent, everyone counts us out, that is our advantage. We are the Raiders, no explaination needed!
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Wow.
You’re..uh…in your 50’s? And you spell like that?
Damn…well, be that as it may, I fail to see how it’s to your advantage.
See, everyone counted you out in ‘03.
You stayed out.
In ‘04? Same counting. Same result.
‘05? Oh yeah..and on, and on, and on..so..why, now, is it to your advantage, when for the last 6 years you were counted out, and you went down for the count?
Oh..because you HOPE SO???
Ah…got it. Well, hell, I hope it rains diamonds tomorrow.
We both have the same odds on realizing our dream, don’t we?
September 23rd, 2009 at 5:23 pm
I agree, let the younsters play, learn, and we have the next 7 years of dynasty. We have the talent, plug the O-line woes, and we are golden!
September 23rd, 2009 at 5:24 pm
Ricochet,
I agree with you about Davis and head coaches. The issue is that Al Davis had success in his career doing it the way he does. He also was a head coach and assistant coach. I don’t think there are any owners left that have that experience. Most are businessmen who have to delegate the bulk of the football ops…although Mike Brown, Jerry Jones and Dan Snyder seem to wield a heavy hand.
Back to Davis, you add his background AND success with it, then add his ownership role you have absolute authority. His age makes him stubborn “IMO” I also don’t believe Davis values head coaches as much as others.
The York’s are business folks…so they will have no problem hiring a coach/gm and giving them authority.
Many coaches are not going to coach for an Owner that has undue influence on game strategy and personnel.
September 23rd, 2009 at 5:28 pm
860Todd Christensen Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 5:18 pm
Richo-woman, Thank god I respect women, otherwise your rediculous rants in here might hold some value. You are not going to bring me into your everyday banter, just meet me for one day for coffee!
I’m sure this site would enjoy it, and I will have cameras to record it, punk!
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lol..first off, of COURSE you’re not going to engage.
Thought process is involved, and one thing that is obvious is that you do abuse the right to be..uh..’slow’.
Secondly, you run the “woman” bit..but then finish it up with “I’m soooo frazzled..I don’t know what to say..so I’ll challenge him to meet me..and call him punk. OHHHHH HE GETS ME IN SUCH A TIZZY”
Little contradictory there, isn’t it?
Now, pops? Hitting me with your cane isn’t going to help you figure out something to say that makes sense.
But sure, coffee works for me.
We can Starbuck.
tomorrow, at 4:00 Starbucks at Hillsdale Mall in San Mateo. Try not to be late.
September 23rd, 2009 at 5:29 pm
# Raider Dell Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 5:20 pm
Einstein
Fair comment. To others in this blog, the missed throws on some of the easy excuted plays are very troublesome, and are very bad throws.
I have to believe Jamarcus will never be a high percentage QB, regarding his accuracy, but it would be nice to see a completed screen pass or a out pattern completed.
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I agree Dell. I actually liken and compare JaMarcus to Jay Schroeder. Big arm, talent, etc.. but not very accurate. However, unfortunately, even Jay was a better QB than JaMarcus AT THIS POINT in time. Schroeder also had a strong arm.
September 23rd, 2009 at 5:31 pm
How is it the whiners drafted a Q with the overall number one, who could very well make Ryan Leaf look good. And that is a waaaay better deal than the one they JUST made wasting an overall number 10 who is NOT going to play a down for them. Those decisions are going to hurt them. The Whiners just elected, as the very first inductee to their own personal Hall of Fame, A CONVICTED FELON. That franchise has bad karma. Very bad karma. And a new stadium pipe dream is not going to change that.
September 23rd, 2009 at 5:33 pm
860TC, as I wrote earlier, you want one of us, unfortunately, you get all of us. If we showed, rack-ette would be there pushing a stroller. Not worth the effort really.
September 23rd, 2009 at 5:35 pm
Oak, and they want to share that with us! We hold our heads high! We are Raiders!
September 23rd, 2009 at 5:39 pm
Einstein
I don’t know if you remember Mark Wilson,as a Raider QB.
Wilson had all the hype coming out of college also, yet never lived up to his high expectations as a Raider QB.
Wilson would have one good game and then the next week would look like crap. My concern is not to repeat the same picture with Jamarcus.
The accuracy and decisions made during the game were the troubles Wilson had.
I know 21 games in will not determine what Jamarcus will be, but the early scenario is not very good. The question is, how long or how many seasons do you see if his QB play is not up to a level of QB play, that is successful to a offense, not pulling it back, when do you move on.
There should be a timed point to realize, when he is all he can be at QB.
September 23rd, 2009 at 5:40 pm
Looks like to me that Yvonne has made both the Al Davis scholarship team, AND the Al Davis dog house team.
Yvonne, shut up and just keep cashing those checks
September 23rd, 2009 at 5:42 pm
I think if we can still win a game where the offence is that bad (or just the QB) then we have to have some piece of mind that when it clicks (as infrequent as that may be) then we might just blow some teams out..
The defence is a whole lot better and thats funny seeing as many of this bloggers whinged an moaned that this was the problem area??
Obviously we won’t more from our offense, fingers crossed it’s this week that they get 1 or 2 pass completions in a row
Raider’s baby!!
September 23rd, 2009 at 5:42 pm
Looking at DHB, he threw the key block for the game winning TD. He does help get other receivers open, it is just up to Jamarcus to get his feet properly set and make the correct throws to the receivers. Oh, DHB is ahead of Michael Craptree at this time and will probably remain so.
September 23rd, 2009 at 5:44 pm
Who cares what Yvonne Walker says or doesn’t say, does or doesn’t do. As far as I’m concerned he isn’t even a Raider. WTF has he even done for us? If Yvonne could help JaMarcus, and if Cable knew he could, he WOULD be on the field. It’s obvious he can’t beat our rooks and younger players because he sucks. Plain and simple, black and white.
September 23rd, 2009 at 5:45 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 5:24 pm
Ricochet,
I agree with you about Davis and head coaches. The issue is that Al Davis had success in his career doing it the way he does. He also was a head coach and assistant coach. I don’t think there are any owners left that have that experience. Most are businessmen who have to delegate the bulk of the football ops…although Mike Brown, Jerry Jones and Dan Snyder seem to wield a heavy hand.
Back to Davis, you add his background AND success with it, then add his ownership role you have absolute authority. His age makes him stubborn “IMO” I also don’t believe Davis values head coaches as much as others.
The York’s are business folks…so they will have no problem hiring a coach/gm and giving them authority.
Many coaches are not going to coach for an Owner that has undue influence on game strategy and personnel.
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Civility?
I’ve heard of that…
Civility begat same..
You are correct. What made Davis is what’s hurting Davis.
His being so involved leads him to believe he not only should continue to be involved, but likely that he still believes he’s better suited than anyone else, so he stubbornly refuses to let go of the reins.
Unfortunately, as you’re likely well aware, what worked decades ago..or even 6-8 years ago, doesn’t always continue to work.
IMO, Al hires coaches that he feels are football savvy, but not “reluctant” to let Al dictate and run things.
You’re dead on regarding why coaches “Saunders, Martz, Kiffin Sr, etc” shy away from the Raiders job.
They see Al overruling hc’s, and want nothing to do with it..ego’s run rampant in the coaching circles.
What’s sad is Davis would probably enjoy sitting back, letting someone else run things, and watch the Raiders bloom, but he’s too stubborn to realize that.
September 23rd, 2009 at 5:47 pm
Cut Yvonne, Cut JaBiscuit, Cut Count Davis…
September 23rd, 2009 at 5:51 pm
Oak, I have no problems with you, never have, You do not think this OLD timer is still not young enough to whoop some punks azzez! You do not know how I work out, and how I look, I would of made Long retire a long time ago. Look at my hero, TC, the best TE the Raiders ever had, bar none, worked injured, gave his all, Raider Ballz, period. This blog isn’t a challenge board, but Ein is a ball buster. If your with him, so goes what happens, do you drink coffee?
September 23rd, 2009 at 5:52 pm
all right guys.. doing a great job here. keep talkin football!
September 23rd, 2009 at 5:53 pm
Al Davis wasn’t happy last season with the amount of time veterans like Ronald Curry and Ashley Lelie were getting at the expense of Schilens and Higgins, and now Heyward-Bey and Louis Murphy are added to the mix.
Oh-oh! Coach Rubble
better not piss off the old goat 
September 23rd, 2009 at 5:54 pm
# Raider Dell Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 5:39 pm
Einstein
I don’t know if you remember Mark Wilson,as a Raider QB.
Wilson had all the hype coming out of college also, yet never lived up to his high expectations as a Raider QB.
Wilson would have one good game and then the next week would look like crap. My concern is not to repeat the same picture with Jamarcus.
The accuracy and decisions made during the game were the troubles Wilson had.
I know 21 games in will not determine what Jamarcus will be, but the early scenario is not very good. The question is, how long or how many seasons do you see if his QB play is not up to a level of QB play, that is successful to a offense, not pulling it back, when do you move on.
There should be a timed point to realize, when he is all he can be at QB.
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I do remember Mark Wilson. What drove me nuts about Wilson is he was surrounded by great players and good teams. I will give JaMarcus the benefit of the doubt on that comparison.
September 23rd, 2009 at 5:56 pm
# 860Todd Christensen Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 5:51 pm
Oak, I have no problems with you, never have, You do not think this OLD timer is still not young enough to whoop some punks azzez! You do not know how I work out, and how I look, I would of made Long retire a long time ago. Look at my hero, TC, the best TE the Raiders ever had, bar none, worked injured, gave his all, Raider Ballz, period. This blog isn’t a challenge board, but Ein is a ball buster. If your with him, so goes what happens, do you drink coffee?
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For such a “self proclaimed” tough guy (Internet tough guy I might add) you can’t take a little “ball bustin”. Relax you old goat, this isn’t the 20’s anymore where you duke it out, then smoke a cigarette. Strange happenings these day man, one must always becareful.
September 23rd, 2009 at 5:57 pm
Al Davis wasn’t happy last season with the amount of time veterans like Ronald Curry and Ashley Lelie were getting at the expense of Schilens and Higgins, and now Heyward-Bey and Louis Murphy are added to the mix.
Murphy, with six catches and 118 yards _ second only to Chicago’s Johnny Knox in receiving yardage _ has justified his playing time with production.
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And last time I looked both Curry and Lelie were OUT OF THE LEAGUE. BTW, Did anyone hear Urban Meyers quotes about how Kiffin was purposefully TRYING to lose?? Fortunately, Cable sees the advantage in trying to develop these youngsters. We also might as well keep Watkins out there. He does have the tendency to get open and can play on special teams. If you do this the short run is going to be very ugly, but the medium to long run should be more fruitful. You gotta give Al that one.
September 23rd, 2009 at 5:58 pm
LISTEN IF YOU MAKE IT RAIN IN VEGAS YOU DESERVE TO SIT ITS CARMA
YVONN WALKER SHOULDNT BE ON THIS TEAM THEY SHOULD OF GOTTEN RID OF HIM AND PICKED UP A VET LIKE MARVIN H. OR SOMEONE PRODUCTIVE THAT COULD ALSO HELP THE ROOKIES.
September 23rd, 2009 at 5:58 pm
You know I am on your side 860TC!
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:00 pm
Oakglenn – not to mention our favorite whipping boy “Judy Pouter” Jerry Porter. He is out of the league as well…
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:02 pm
Oakglenn Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 5:31 pm
How is it the whiners drafted a Q with the overall number one, who could very well make Ryan Leaf look good.
Richochet: Difference is Niners said PLAY WELL OR SIT..and they sat him.
Raiders? Well, let JR sum it up “I’m the man, and not worried at ALL ABOUT LOSING MY POSITION”. Niners made the change..benched his ass..and when he didn’t perform, sat him. Raiders? a meek mice that just accept WHATEVER AL DICTATES. Russell SHOULD BE WORRIED, but he’s not..and THAT’S ON THE RAIDERS.
Thanks for the setup, moron.
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nd that is a waaaay better deal than the one they JUST made wasting an overall number 10 who is NOT going to play a down for them. Those decisions are going to hurt them.
Richochet: Again, crapploa for brains, let me rub it in how it SHOULD be done. Niners made pick. He thought he could make Niners buckle. Niners told Crab to kiss their azz. If it was Al? HE WOULD HAVE GIVEN CRABTREE 40 MILLION..and now? Everyone is applauding the Niners for not buckling.
BTW, peanut, EVERYONE IS POINTING AT AL’S RIDICULOUS CONTRACTS TO HALL/KELLY/WALKER/HARRIS/WILSON as not only the dumbest in the last 20 years, but is indicative of the larger problem in the NFL.
Again, thanks for the setup, cupcake.
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The Whiners just elected, as the very first inductee to their own personal Hall of Fame, A CONVICTED FELON. That franchise has bad karma. Very bad karma. And a new stadium pipe dream is not going to change that.
Richochet: LMFAO..you fool. THE #1 MOST LOVED MAN TO NINER FANS IS EDDIE D. #1. Bill Walsh is right behind.
Fans were chanting “EDDIE..EDDIE’ all throughout the second quarter.
See, crap for brains, adults? You know..the “big people”? They don’t care that Eddie didn’t rush, like a little snitch, and turn in the governor who was extorting money from him. YOU would probably snitch like a little girl..but the smart business move? TO ANY BUSINESS MAN..was to pay the 400 K, knowing he now had the last casino license being offered, and would be making 10 million, at least, per year.
See, pumpkin, Eddie D knew the next guy would pay it, under the table, and he would be out.
See, moron, he was guilty of not reporting a crime..snitching..something you know so well.
Oh..did I thank you for the setup? lol…
Now…Al? He walks in and GETS BOOED.
Eddie D did everything for his players…NEVER SCREWED OVER ONE Eddie took care of his coaches, his players, and the fans. That’s why every one wanted to play in SF..even took pay cuts..Al? screws over player after player after player..by his own admission. Hell, he screwed over Tim Brown..of all players, all because he still wanted to play.
and has ANY OWNER EVER SCREWED OVER THE FANS LIKE AL DAVIS HAS??
Ever? I don’t think so.
(Oh..Uh..Oakdork? Those questions weren’t for you. You’re too stupid to comprehend, much less form a reply. You stay in the shadows, little boy)
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:04 pm
JaMarshmallow vs. Kobayashi. Now that’s a competition.
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:05 pm
so..860Toddtodd?
We on for tomorrow?
don’t pretend you didn’t read #8.
Besides, you’re buying.
Don’t be late.
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:10 pm
# Richochet Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:05 pm
so..860Toddtodd?
We on for tomorrow?
don’t pretend you didn’t read #8.
Besides, you’re buying.
Don’t be late.
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I have a feeling 860Todd is one of those , Starbucks, latte non fat cream soy flavored coffee type of guy.
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:10 pm
I’m in the mood to laugh at OakDork.
Here’s one of his silly comments on previous thread that I just had to torch..
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OakDork..another ignorant comment below.
First off, Tampa Bay had one of the worst olines in the league..maybe the worst.
Young was running for his life, every play.
And damn..you couldn’t have torched the story about BYU if you did it deliberately.
He didn’t insist young EVER be a RB..it was defense they were going to put Young on.
Pay attention, nit.
Young met Edwards while Edwards was touring around with Marc Wilson, believe it or not. Young was a speaker at a meeting Edwards was attending. After talking with Young, he was offered a schlorship.
Young said he would accept only if he was given a shot at qb. If he failed he would take whatever. They agreed to give him a legit shot.
Young actually sucked, having no training.
Bad throws, bad technique, and didn’t get to play.
he spent the offseason with Jim McMahon and other qb’s, working on technique. Was a new OC who came onboard at BYU who approached Edwards, and found out Edwards planned on putting Young on defense, because of his speed. The new coach told him “you haven’t seen him throw lately, have you? You need to come see this.” Young not only was now their qb, but was the most proficient passer in the NCAA.
He got to be qb because he worked his ass off during the offseason..ON HIS OWN…and came back and proved he was good. Had NOTHING to do with his family ties, you twit.
Key phrase there is “worked his ass off” and that’s something Russell has NEVER done..ever..anywhere.
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Oakglenn Says:
September 22nd, 2009 at 10:32 pm
Steve Young was saying on the National Broadcast that you cannot teach accuracy. Well, lavelle Edwards the coach at BYU DID NOT Want Young as a Q. He insisted Young be a RB, but because Young had some “connections” notably he was a direct decendent of Brigham Young, Lavell relented. And as I said, the proof is in the tape. I watched Young play his first few years in Tampa. He looked awful. He looked good as a runner, but his accuracy was terrible. There is no denying that.
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:12 pm
Let me guess – You’re a Donkey fan jerry.
Stupid comment:
“Heyward-Bey has one catch for 17 yards, and supposedly he’s opening up areas for other receivers. If that’s the case, they’re not getting wide open for Russell to find them in stride, considering his completion percentage.”
“supposedly”? Of course he is. If you watch you’ll see too. And then you take a shot saying Russell completion percentage doesn’t reflect it …man that’s just ignorant …sorry but it is. Russell and his WRs are not on the same page …the WRs are getting open …the TEs are getting WIDE open …they’re just not connecting …him missing has nothing to do with DHB drawing coverage!
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:12 pm
Rack-O sheeit you have GOT to be kidding. Let me wipe the floor with you as usual:
Richochet: Difference is Niners said PLAY WELL OR SIT..and they sat him.
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No. Mike Nolan fabricated some injury as to why he sat. Which made both Smith and the Whiners look stupid. BTW do the words Salary Cap mean anything to you?? Probably not, since the Whiners were sanctioned by the league for ignoring it. So, they are paying a guy $30mm to carry a clip board. Brilliant. Nice cap management.
Richochet: Again, crapploa for brains, let me rub it in how it SHOULD be done. Niners made pick. He thought he could make Niners buckle.
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You know, rack-o-sheeit, this might be your all time stupidest post and you have had some dooooooziiieeees. So the Whiners win, for drafting a guy, they never signed. Genius. The first time you came in here, you and I had a heated argument and I said that the reason the Raiders did not choose Craptree was because he was unsignable. You told me different. Check mate rack-o.
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Richochet: LMFAO..you fool. THE #1 MOST LOVED MAN TO NINER FANS IS EDDIE D. #1. Bill Walsh is right behind.
Fans were chanting “EDDIE..EDDIE’ all throughout the second quarter.
See, crap for brains, adults? You know..the “big people”? They don’t care that Eddie didn’t rush, like a little snitch, and turn in the governor who was extorting money from him. YOU would probably snitch like a little girl..but the smart business move? TO ANY BUSINESS MAN..was to pay the 400 K, knowing he now had the last casino license being offered, and would be making 10 million, at least, per year.
See, pumpkin, Eddie D knew the next guy would pay it, under the table, and he would be out.
See, moron, he was guilty of not reporting a crime..snitching..something you know so well.
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Wrong as usual. He did snitch which brought down a few Louisiana politicians and cost him his most beloved possession: An NFL FRANCHISE, the hapless Whiners. Only a complete idiot would be cheering a felon. Maybe they should let that child kidnapper take a lap around Candlestick and you can all stand and cheer him as well you idiot. BTW, say what you want about Davis, he is NOT a convicted Felon. But, hey, it’s only Karma here!! Point, Set, Match!! I would say you tapped out, rack-o but you got knocked out. Cold!
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:12 pm
# Richochet Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:05 pm
so..860Toddtodd?
We on for tomorrow?
don’t pretend you didn’t read #8.
Besides, you’re buying.
Don’t be late.
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he wont be there, mormons dont drink coffee, or something like that….
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:14 pm
Einstein Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:10 pm
# Richochet Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:05 pm
so..860Toddtodd?
We on for tomorrow?
don’t pretend you didn’t read #8.
Besides, you’re buying.
Don’t be late.
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I have a feeling 860Todd is one of those , Starbucks, latte non fat cream soy flavored coffee type of guy.
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LOL..I’m more worried about him whacking me on the knee with his cane..messing up my golf game.
You don’t suppose he’s going to like..take his teeth out, and throw them at me, do you?
I can just hear it now ‘If I was 20 YEARS YOUNGER, you young whippersnapper”.
Finger wagging is optional.
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:14 pm
Someone mentioned Curry and Company….
1. Ronald Curry – Out of the league
2. Ashlie Lelie – Out of the league
3. Kwame Harris – Out of the league
4. Javon Walker – Might as well be out of the league
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:15 pm
What kind of hack of a blog post is this Jerry? You trying to be divisive. Taking shots at DHB. Taking shots at Russell. Elevating the Donkey’s.
This is a terrible post!
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:15 pm
And BTW, rack-o don’t ask me, ask Lavelle Edwards. He will tell you differently. But you’ve been wrong about EVERYTHING you have ever posted here, why would #33 be any different??
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:16 pm
# Richochet Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:14 pm
Einstein Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:10 pm
# Richochet Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:05 pm
so..860Toddtodd?
We on for tomorrow?
don’t pretend you didn’t read #8.
Besides, you’re buying.
Don’t be late.
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I have a feeling 860Todd is one of those , Starbucks, latte non fat cream soy flavored coffee type of guy.
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LOL..I’m more worried about him whacking me on the knee with his cane..messing up my golf game.
You don’t suppose he’s going to like..take his teeth out, and throw them at me, do you?
I can just hear it now ‘If I was 20 YEARS YOUNGER, you young whippersnapper”.
Finger wagging is optional.
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Nah man, he is just going to roll up on you in one of those powered wheel chairs. Depending on the speed, that might sting a bit to rolled under one of those. Careful man.
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:17 pm
hey richochet, be honest who really is your favorite team and don’t give stupid answers.
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:23 pm
# Terrapin Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:15 pm
What kind of hack of a blog post is this Jerry? You trying to be divisive. Taking shots at DHB. Taking shots at Russell. Elevating the Donkey’s.
This is a terrible post!
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And as if any of his other posts are anything different? Where have you been man? Just Jerry being Jerry.
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:24 pm
Richochet Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:24 pm
He indicated he’s a “new age” fogey.
you know..running boards on his electric chariot? GPS so he can find his way back to his car? Little porta potty build in for those “moments that sneak up ya, ..when you least expect it”??
Wonder if it’s turbo charged?
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He is probably going to smack you or pinch you with that free grabber thing he got by purchasing his powered wheel chair. Careful… based on the commercial it even extends for a further reach.
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:24 pm
Einstein Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:16 pm
# Richochet Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:14 pm
Einstein Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:10 pm
# Richochet Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:05 pm
so..860Toddtodd?
We on for tomorrow?
don’t pretend you didn’t read #8.
Besides, you’re buying.
Don’t be late.
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I have a feeling 860Todd is one of those , Starbucks, latte non fat cream soy flavored coffee type of guy.
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LOL..I’m more worried about him whacking me on the knee with his cane..messing up my golf game.
You don’t suppose he’s going to like..take his teeth out, and throw them at me, do you?
I can just hear it now ‘If I was 20 YEARS YOUNGER, you young whippersnapper”.
Finger wagging is optional.
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Nah man, he is just going to roll up on you in one of those powered wheel chairs. Depending on the speed, that might sting a bit to rolled under one of those. Careful man.
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He indicated he’s a “new age” fogey.
you know..running boards on his electric chariot? GPS so he can find his way back to his car? Little porta potty build in for those “moments that sneak up ya, ..when you least expect it”??
Wonder if it’s turbo charged?
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:24 pm
Im outta here… L8r Nation.
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:24 pm
DHB caught what would’ve been 2 TDs vs the Queefs. He’s opening up the field for the other WRs and TEs.
…oh, but I guess he hasn’t earned his keep according to Jerry.
I can’t believe some of those “uninformed” comments I read up there. I guess that’s the nicest way to put it. A reporter giving uninformed commentary.
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:30 pm
Rack-o, I don’t drink coffee!
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:32 pm
LISTEN TERRAPIN IM NOT SAYING DHB IS A BUST OR EVEN BAD BUT MURPHY DESERVES TO START ALONGSIDE CHAZ. MURPHY IS BETTER AT THIS POINT.
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:33 pm
I am still laughing myself silly at rack-o-sheeits comments. So, the Whiners did the right thing by benching their $30mm draft choice and making up stories. The Whiners did the right thing by drafting a guy at #10 overall and then NOT signing him. And Whiner fan did the right thing by cheering a convicted felon who ratted out others. But hey, their new stadium is better than Jerryville in Dallas. Oh right, it hasn’t been built yet. And Isn’t that the same crap SF Giant fan has been spewing?? Hey SF Giant fan, what have you ever won?? Answer: Our stadium is nice, and we have the best garlic fries.
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:36 pm
860Todd Christensen Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:30 pm
Rack-o, I don’t drink coffee!
Richochet: Really? YOU DON’T??
LOL..UH…are you drunk?
Stoned?
Whacked out?
You state you DON’T DRINK COFFEE..so..read your comment, below, and explain what the “meet for coffee” is supposed to mean?
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860Todd Christensen Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 5:18 pm
Richo-woman, Thank god I respect women, otherwise your rediculous rants in here might hold some value. You are not going to bring me into your everyday banter, just meet me for one day for coffee!
I’m sure this site would enjoy it, and I will have cameras to record it, punk!
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:40 pm
I guess McQuistan must be on the outs. I thought he might be the choice for LG, but apparently I was wrong. I hope Pears does a good job. I don’t why McQuistan seems to have disappeared from the depth chart.
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:43 pm
Whats wrong Jerry – Did I touch a nerve?
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:45 pm
I guess they’ll continue to block my harsh criticism of this blog entry: BAMAS!
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:46 pm
Koolaide, our front O-line is in some serious help, I cant say they arent trying, but we are getting overwhelmed, as a Raider O-line, from tears past. IMHO, we are good enough, just too light. Fast doesnt make perfect.
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:48 pm
I swear this is just one “uninformed” blog post.
1. Jerry asserts that the Raiders are too committed to DHB to even consider giving Walker a shot on the field.
WHAT!! Don’t blame DHB because Walker can’t prove himself to the coaches like its his fault. Walker couldn’t dress ahead of Todd Watkins! How’s he suppose to bench DHB? To suggest the coaches want to sit on players at the expense of the team winning is freakin’ ridiculous.
2. Then he scapegoats Mr. Davis basically saying its his fault Walker isn’t dressing and playing DHB
NEWS FLASH! Walker can’t get more time than WATKINS!
3. Then he plays the DHB vs Schilens vs Murphy time card to get everyone riled up.
4. Then he comes out with this diatribe: “Heyward-Bey has one catch for 17 yards, and supposedly he’s opening up areas for other receivers. If that’s the case, they’re not getting wide open for Russell to find them in stride, considering his completion percentage.”
WHHHHATTTT!?! “Supposedly”???? What you don’t watch them play? OF COURSE HE DOES! Then you equate JRs incompletions to DHB drawing coverage. DOUBLE What The ….F!!!
5.And above all you elevate the Donkeys! Equating McDaniel to Gruden like the Donkeys are on their way to being great!
OMG …need I say anymore?
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:52 pm
Is IBA accepting applications for beat writer? I think some of you should petition for the job.
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:53 pm
Murphy is better than DHB. Bush is better than McFadden. But the guy being paid the most money starts. This is the NFL.
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:55 pm
Oakglenn Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:33 pm
I am still laughing myself silly at rack-o-sheeits comments. So, the Whiners did the right thing by benching their $30mm draft choice and making up stories. The Whiners did the right thing by drafting a guy at #10 overall and then NOT signing him. And Whiner fan did the right thing by cheering a convicted felon who ratted out others. But hey, their new stadium is better than Jerryville in Dallas. Oh right, it hasn’t been built yet. And Isn’t that the same crap SF Giant fan has been spewing?? Hey SF Giant fan, what have you ever won?? Answer: Our stadium is nice, and we have the best garlic fries.
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Ahh..the “dumb and dumber” mode of reply.
Sure, I’ll play..at your expense.
Yeah, the Niners DID THE RIGHT THING by benching a player. Guess you don’t know how it works. You put the person on the field who gives you the best chance to win. Smith was the obvious choice. to everyone. He struggled, big time, and was benched.
Raiders? ‘Russell isn’t GOING ANYWHERE. WE PAID TOO MUCH MONEY FOR HIM, SO WE’LL CONTINUE TO LOSE instead of making a switch”
Oh…Peanut? WITH SMITH ON THE BENCH THE NINERS ARE 2-0.
Looks like the Niners made the right choice, peanut.
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And yes, the NINERS DID THE RIGHT THING TO NOT PAY A #10 PICK #7 MONEY..what? You’re so stupid you don’t realize that? Yes, again, Al would have paid him 40 million..so why post stupid replies, when you know I’m just going to set you up to be laughed at, again?
How long you been on medication, OakDuh?
RE: Stadium WTF? lol you are a glutton, aren’t you? Raiders can’t get a new stadium..so they move..except no one wants them..ANYWHERE.
Niners? Are talking care of business..Raiders? Can’t spell buzinesz.
And how stupid are you to bring up the Giants park? One of the top baseball parks in the country, moron. The A’s? Oh..that’s right..they play in that gowd awful sty called the Oakland Slumfest Coliseum.
You aren’t doing to well, munchkin.
You might want to get some help.
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:58 pm
Going for George to Gannon is one thing. Going for Cutler to Orton is a whole nother ball of wax!
HE’S TERRIBLE!!!
Did you not see that left handed attempt he made in the preseason???? I mean who even thinks to do some dumb shhhh like that? PICK! Easy! In the endzone nonetheless.
The main reason they got rid Cutler was because McDaniels couldn’t manage the relationship (…can’t manage one with Marshall either) not because they spotted something great in Orton over Cutler. But you suggest otherwise Jerry which is, well, stupidly uninformed.
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:58 pm
Kirk Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:53 pm
Murphy is better than DHB. Bush is better than McFadden. But the guy being paid the most money starts. This is the NFL.
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Not true.
What you mean is “Those were Al’s picks, and AL HATES TO ADMIT WHEN HE’S WRONG”.
Just schooled OakDork on how the Niners have their high paid qb on the bench, with a better playing, making less qb is starting.
September 23rd, 2009 at 6:58 pm
Guy’s, give it TIME, our potential is going to scare the league, we have the personel, the team, we have what it takes. We need to embarrass Richomary to go back to his Donkies log.
September 23rd, 2009 at 7:07 pm
McFadden will return punts…..cool
September 23rd, 2009 at 7:08 pm
jamarcus had a bunch of family at the KC game?….must of stayed up with them the night before..game started early…maybe this had something to do with the exceptionally bad play…
September 23rd, 2009 at 7:11 pm
Raiders4eve Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 7:14 pm
Guys, I hate to be sound so negative but JR sucks PERIOD. Even if we win against the donkeys, we will have to go n win in the road against Houston, Giants n play philly the week after. I can only see an 0-3 on those games were our OL would be really tested, if we had a decent QB who can complete passes n command the game we would be able to win some games.
Listen Favre doesn’t have to throw 40 times a game all he needs to get a first down when it is 3rd and 6 continue drives and AP would take care of everything else stupid JR can’t even do that, that’s why they got 9 ppl on the box knwoing dumb guy can’t pass.
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bro i think we can beat the donkeys. we just a better team. the texans? homie we’ll beat them too. All they do is pass and we have one of the best pass ds and well beat them like last year. johnson either way is gonna get shut down by aso or johnson. they’re a one dimen. team. giants n eagles game worries me because these teams will put the heat on russell and he might struggle.
September 23rd, 2009 at 7:12 pm
The reason Yvonne Walker is not playing is because she doesnt put enough effort in practice or preparation. She has always had this reputation and Cable is absolutely right not to play her until she puts in the efforts in preparation.
Kitten had a problem with her to last year in camp.
September 23rd, 2009 at 7:14 pm
Guys, I hate to be sound so negative but JR sucks PERIOD. Even if we win against the donkeys, we will have to go n win in the road against Houston, Giants n play philly the week after. I can only see an 0-3 on those games were our OL would be really tested, if we had a decent QB who can complete passes n command the game we would be able to win some games.
Listen Favre doesn’t have to throw 40 times a game all he needs to get a first down when it is 3rd and 6 continue drives and AP would take care of everything else stupid JR can’t even do that, that’s why they got 9 ppl on the box knwoing dumb guy can’t pass.
September 23rd, 2009 at 7:15 pm
Up,
Do what I do. Buy the Jersey and get his number but put your last name on it. I dont get why guys wear another’s man last name on their jersey. Players come and go and when you use your own last name you can never go wrong.
September 23rd, 2009 at 7:17 pm
kirk.
murphy is better than dhb hands down not even close.
im not sure bush is better than dmac they have 2 different styles that can be utilized its a nice problem to have.
i have said before i never buy jerseyz of current players every since i bought a buchanon jersey a few years back still pissed about that.
i tend to stick to throwbacks but i am seriously considering splurging for a murphy jersey to wear here in san diego to the game i have a feeling the raiders have something special in murphy imho
September 23rd, 2009 at 7:20 pm
oh yeah and jawalruss sucks which makes murphy looking good prove how much talent he has just ask zach miller
September 23rd, 2009 at 7:22 pm
Raiders4eve Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 7:14 pm
Guys, I hate to be sound so negative but JR sucks PERIOD. Even if we win against the donkeys, we will have to go n win in the road against Houston, Giants n play philly the week after. I can only see an 0-3 on those games were our OL would be really tested, if we had a decent QB who can complete passes n command the game we would be able to win some games.
Listen Favre doesn’t have to throw 40 times a game all he needs to get a first down when it is 3rd and 6 continue drives and AP would take care of everything else stupid JR can’t even do that, that’s why they got 9 ppl on the box knwoing dumb guy can’t pass
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Watch the games. I think you’d be surprisedby someof the 3rd downs Russell’s comverted so far.
Yeah, the accuracy’s an issue, but there are signs of life…
September 23rd, 2009 at 7:30 pm
it’s ridiculous that Russell is missing these open receivers.he’s a QB in the NFL and he cant complete a simple screen pass!!!!if the KC defenders were able to hold on to those ugly balls that he was throwing he would’ve had a much worse passer rating than Romo but it’s evident not even they can catch those horrible passes.
September 23rd, 2009 at 7:44 pm
player exp gs
JRuss 3(2) 18
McF/Bush 2/2 5/1
DHB 1 2
Murphy 1 2
Miller 3 33
Henderson 3 7
Gallery 6 75(not all at guard)
Morris 4 3
Carlisle 10 71
Greene 11 36
More than half our offense doesn’t even have double digit career starts, yet everybody wants to know why we aren’t in sync, why our QB is sucking, and why is it always 3 and out? Wasn’t 4 weeks at training camp enough? I’m not making excuses for the actual bad passes Russel throws, but this is a young team with ALOT of inexperience, its gonna be rough, ugly and slow going. Offenes are all about timing, that comes with repetition and experience, both things we don’t have right now.
September 23rd, 2009 at 7:45 pm
Nnamdi21, thanks for your reply bro I have to say that I do watch the games but as far as 3rd down efficency JR sucks well at least in the Kansas game, we were 3-13 bs 7-14 against SD. Keep in mind against SD we only play good at first half, when they shut down our run, JR was forced with three times 3 n out in the third quarter so bro I m not sure if I agree with your analogy hope u could clarify what u mean.
September 23rd, 2009 at 7:46 pm
Some of you guys post such eloquent well thought posts such as JR sucks. After watching last weeks game you must have really stretched your abilities to analyze to come up with such a concise opinion, but did you ever consider that while he certainly has had some other bad games on his resume in his short tenure as an NFL starting QB, he also has had a handful of successful games? Did you ever also consider that last week is likely to be the worst that he will ever play statistically, and most likely many of his future efforts will be more along the line of the three games that he put together to end last season. I don’t know how successful his career will turn out to be by the time it is over, but to take one little snapshot in time and declare it to be the some total is short sighted.
September 23rd, 2009 at 7:46 pm
“Marshall didn’t play in Oakland last season, missing the opener as he served a one-game suspension for violating the league’s personal conduct policy. He said he’s looking forward to matching up against Raiders Pro Bowl cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha(notes) on Sunday.”
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Yeah, but he got his azz handed to him in the 2nd match up and not by Nnamdi. Chris Johnson torched him and everyone lese who roamed the secondary.
One of Johnson’s best games.
Bad refs.
2 ridiculous and I mean ridiculous roughing the passer calls on Howard and a TD pick called back on Johnson for a tiny jersey tug.
Anyone catch that BS in KC where the refs measured to see if Oakland got the first down and then when they saw they did assessed the penalty to deny it?
WTF?!!!
We’ll be watching for the fix this game too. Just have to do like raider teams of old.
Win anyway…
Can’t expect great refs for a team on a 6 yr skid but come ON!!!
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-broncos-marshall&prov=ap&type=lgns
September 23rd, 2009 at 7:52 pm
The reason the refs measured for that first down before assessing the penalty is that if The Raiders had not gotten the first down Kansas City would have had the option to decline the penalty and bring up fourth down.
September 23rd, 2009 at 7:57 pm
i would love to see DHB bomb Champ Bailey for a TD…it could be the beginning of a soon-to-be prominent WR in the league beating a once shutdown corner on his last legs.im more of a supporter for DHB then Russell but i agree with Koolaid that this could be his worse game of the year…at least that’s what we’re all hoping for.
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:08 pm
Tough call on Walker.
Maybe he could help. Maybe not.
Develop the talented but raw young guys, or insert the veteran to help get the offense rolling at the expense of those guys’ development?
I think Walker should get a healthy share of snaps and see what he can do. If he doesn’t do much send him off. If he proves he’s a playmaker again I say get him in there. There will be plenty of time to develop the rookies down the line.
I have a feeling we may not see Schilens until at least Week 5 at the Giants. If he just started walking around last week without the boot will he really be fully healed, in football shape and up to making the sharp cuts on pass routes in 11 days without fear of re-injuring the foot?
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:14 pm
The coaches say that Walker is not able to get separation and get open in practice, so if they are correct about what they are seeing in practice then they have no reason to feel confident he can get open in the game. I also think they feel the rookie WR’s are going to be something special and they want to get them experienced and up to speed as quickly as possible.
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:18 pm
# TBuckey Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 7:57 pm
i would love to see DHB bomb Champ Bailey for a TD…it could be the beginning of a soon-to-be prominent WR in the league beating a once shutdown corner on his last legs.
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:30 pm
Walker didnt play in the pre-season you brain dead buffoon.
# Oakglenn Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 5:14 pm
Let the yougnsters play. Shoot, let Todd Watkins play. “Jivin” was getting no seperation in the pre season. We have been thru this before with wide outs. See Curry, Ron
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:31 pm
Troll,
it can happen most likely wont but it could if the Broncos think that he can cover DHB on his own.one thing Russel is good at, is letting the long ball rip i just hates when he tries to force it to DHB in double sometimes triple coverage.i hope that they leave DHB on an island with Bailey, then he would be bound to at least make one big play.
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:32 pm
The same genius’s complaining JaMeatloaf has rookie WR’s want Walker to sit on the bench while DHB racks up 1’s of catches per game.
Brilliance!
Cable needs to tell AL to go take a nap and let Walker play!
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:40 pm
Mistabrown Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:30 pm
Walker didnt play in the pre-season you brain dead buffoon.
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hey you dumb fck. I see you are back and still stupid and ignorant. You wanna go to nfl.com and validate your comment above.
I love to get on idiots like you here. How about them browns so far?
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:41 pm
If I was the Broncos DC I would hire a blind person to throw balls during practice so his Db’s can get used to what they are going to see on Sunday.
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:42 pm
Mistabrown,
Looks like Brady Quinn is on the hotseat. Says he is holding the ball too long and not making any chemistry with Edwards.
Has’t lead his team to a victory yet
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:44 pm
No AlisNotGod,
Im aware Walker played about 3 plays against NO. In other words, he didnt play in the pre-season! You dont evaluate a player like that unless the owner told the coach what to do.
Do you really believe Cable doesn’t want a veteran WR out there helping out his derelict Qb ?
lmao
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:49 pm
I wonder why jerry doesn’t fully quote people or quote more people on csn murphy said the recievers have a lot to do with russells struggles and russell said some more stuff than that
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:49 pm
AL would rather hold a grudge and have DHB play and get 1’s of catches to just to spite Walker for having that off-season surgery without telling the team about it.
And then make Cable say to the media “he is slow coming out of breaks”. And then people as dumb as Oakglen regurgitate that nonsense in this blog as if he knows his a$$ from a hole in the ground.
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:56 pm
Mistabrown,
You have not said a word about your Browns. Tough stretch coming up….Ravens, Bengals, Steelers, Bills on the road….
Will Quinn make it?
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:03 pm
Sunday would be a good time for Walker to start ‘walking the talk’. He’s got alot of $ for Zero production.
Murphy has earned playing time, period, Watkins to after KC.
So Javon, if u see the field….
MAKE A PLAY!
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:03 pm
Mistabrown Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:49 pm
AL would rather hold a grudge and have DHB play and get 1’s of catches to just to spite Walker for having that off-season surgery without telling the team about it.
And then make Cable say to the media “he is slow coming out of breaks”. And then people as dumb as Oakglen regurgitate that nonsense in this blog as if he knows his a$$ from a hole in the ground.
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And Mistabrown knows this because he is there in practice every day evaluating the receivers.
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:04 pm
If Murphy gets covered by Bailey and Z Miller gets covered by Dawkins, n if they shut down the running game with 8 men in the line of scrimmage, how can we win against the donkeys? Can anyone tell me a scenerio knowing these hypothesis.
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:06 pm
Cleveland Browns outscored 61 to 26
No TDs against Denver
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:15 pm
Raiders 24
Broncos 14
You guys will be blaming Russell for nearly blowing that one, too.
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:21 pm
Forget about the missed throws … I’m more concern about JaMarcus NOT being a team player from day one.
First the hold out … come on everybody and their dog knows Al Davis OVER PAYS everyone … so what was the problem JR didn’t feel like going to rookie training camp???
Second … you want to be the star QB … you have to put in the hours … long hours. Oh ya learning the playbook helps too.
Third … blaming your rookie WRs for your bad game is BS. I have NEVER EVER heard a QB blame his WRs.
Red Flags people … stop making excuses for JaMarcus he’s a big boy not a baby … or maybe he is a baby you guys know something I don’t.
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:23 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:15 pm
Raiders 24
Broncos 14
You guys will be blaming Russell for nearly blowing that one, too.
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You whine like a little child about everything, for weeks, and now all of a sudden you’re hanging on everything to do with the raiders, sac.
You’re like a babbling make no sense, insecure little toad.
I DARE YOU to try and explain away Russell’s crap play. You won’t. You’ll run the silly take about it being the WR’s fault, the play calling, the water boy, whatever.
There is a reason Russell was the worst in the NFL last year.
There is a reason that Russell is the worst of starters this year.
Leave it to you to need it explained.
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:24 pm
VanHeathen Sunday would be a good day for AL to let Cable play Walker but its probably not going to happen.
You can come back next week this time and blame Walker again!
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:28 pm
LOL @ the Donks!!!!
WE WILL WIN ON SUNDAY WRITE IT DOWN!!!!
Whats the haps PM crew??
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:30 pm
JaMeatball hasnt got any unfair criticism thus far so I dont know why he would be blamed for blowing a 10 point win. Especially if he mustered 24 points!
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:30 pm
I don’t think the Raiders will win another Super Bowl. I just want us make the playoffs 2 of every 3 years. Be a perennial, ball breaking playoff team, like we were in the ’70s before winning the SB. I’m fine by Russell. He neither makes or breaks this team. The kind of system we have, all we need is a coach that can run the team bunker style under Al’s nose, the way Madden and Gruden did, and the way Flores did at first. And, from what I’m seeing at the end of last season and so far this year, Cable is doing it. We’re going to get a wild card spot this year. I really think so. And, there’s only one person that can get in the way, and it’s not JaMarcus Russell. Think 60 years older.
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:35 pm
Richochet, you can think whatever you want. Meet my friend, IGNORE. You and him will be acquainted from here on out.
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:36 pm
Brown,
you still haven’t answered SnB’s question.why do the Browns suck?well there are a lot of reasons but thats for another night.how about you go to a Browns’ forum and come up with ideas as to how you’re going to win your next couple of games.
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:39 pm
I hear you MR! These so-called fans are going to be embarrassed after this week.
the Raiders are doing the right thing in trying to develop a young QB. The Raiders have had ONE decent QB in 20 yrs…..and that was three yrs of Rich Gannon!
Only an ignoramous would think that switching to Gradkowski, Frye or some free agent would make a difference.
They are trying to develop the young QB. You don’t give up after 18 starts!
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:40 pm
I DARE YOU to try and explain away Russell’s crap play.You won’t. You’ll run the silly take about it being the WR’s fault, the play calling, the water boy, whatever.
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Fold your hand bro…..
Russell is lazy he needs to put in more work with our current set of WR’s he needs to be out there every night till dark if he wants to be great he needs to start acting like it!!!! I beleive if he puts in the work he could be elite if not we will struggle from time to time but run the ball well and make plays when it counts….
These colors dont run brother.
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:41 pm
The Raiders have a better chance at winning their division than getting a wild card. The division may be had with an 8-8 or 9-7 record, and most likely the wild card will take a little bit better than that.
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:42 pm
I’m off tomorrow. Anyone know where I can get the best deal on an authentic Russell jersey in Sac or bay area? I want one by Sunday.
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:43 pm
Wild card spot?? Really. Over who? The Colts? Tennessee? Pitt? Baltimore? For that to happen the Raiders will have to win AT LEAST 9 games. No way in hell that happens with such a garbage offense. Your on crack.
Russell 100% MAKES or BREAKS this team. If he fails he pulls this team down with him. Period.
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:44 pm
Dude, Russell didn’t make or break this team last Sunday. He honestly played one of the worst games I’ve ever seen any NFL quarterback play in my life. Must have been some victory party, regardless. We go tighter on defense at the end of the SD game, and his gaffes in that game are moot, as well, like the one where he nailed Murphy in the end zone before the half only to have it overturned. Brady makes that pass and they talk about it being the reason he’s going to be in the hall. A couple of SI.com writers are also arrested for assaulting the ref who overturned it. Sorry. Russell does not carry this team on his shoulders. We’re a smash mouth, running team. Russell has not been in a position to decide one game, yet. So keep lying.
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:45 pm
I’m tired of the commentators belittling the Raiders but they deserve it. You draft a QB that can throw the ball 80 yards but can’t complete a screen pass. You draft a super-fast receiver that can’t catch the ball. I love Tom Cable’s excuse for Heyward-Bey, “He was nervous.” I think I’ll use that excuse at work tomorrow. If I screw up I’ll say I was nervous. The difference is only several million dollars. They treat Jamarcus Russell like a baby. He’s a big boy making big money and more importantly HE’S A PROFESSIONAL! Do you see them treating Matt Ryan, Mark Sanchez, or Jay Cutler like that? No. These guys are new and running much more complicated offenses. It’s obvious Russell is never going to develop into anything worthwhile. Steve Young said it against San Diego, “You can’t teach accuracy. Either you have it or you don’t.” I hope when Russell fails this season, and he will, that Al Davis has the common sense to cut the cord.
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:46 pm
Any one who is not doubting Russell right now is irrational. Simple as that. He has shown NOTHING to make anyone believe he is making positive strides.
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:47 pm
Dude what are you doing here?how about you and those other guys that love bashing our team go and an anti-Raider forum we dont care to hear about it over here.
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:48 pm
DHB is a joke. Every Sunday I see rookie WRs making plays all over the league. Percy Harvin, Kenny Britt, Johnny Knox, Deon Butler, and on and on. The Raiders credo used to be “Commitment to excellence” noe its “Committment to excuses”.
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:50 pm
Alert…Alert….Alert. Moronic Comment Detected.
” The Raiders are doing everything RIGHT in developing a young QB”
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:51 pm
You guys refuse to acknowledge the fact that coaching, players and leadership matter.
Russell was given a coach who taught him to be overly conservative with the football….
That coach was fired after 4 gms and replaced by a former O.C at UCLA.
Then you surround the kid with 3 receivers that were cut right out of the league AND a STARTING Left Tackle that didn’t get a SINGLE INVITE to camp the following year. None of those guys were close to retirement age.
You don’t give the kid a chance to play with and practice with the same group of receivers.
I also will bet that Hackett and company are tinkering with mechanics and other stuff..so Russell is unlearning both DeFilipo and Kiffin’s technique.
Still a good teammate and leader…not throwing his teammates under the bus…not whining and crying and he keeps talking about trying to get better and moving to the next game….short memory
you guys want to waste your sundays watching a Rex Grossman or JP Losman….then you don’t know football
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:52 pm
Dude, I don’t offer excuses. I offer predictions.
Raiders by 10.
What’s yours?
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:53 pm
Dude, I agree with developing a young QB, just not this one.
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:54 pm
I would love to look foolish and be winning.
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:54 pm
Whats that I hear??? ……Oh thats right, more excuses. Thought so.
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:55 pm
Dude Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:50 pm
Alert…Alert….Alert. Moronic Comment Detected.
” The Raiders are doing everything RIGHT in developing a young QB”
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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You need to go back to school and retake your reading comprehension classes.
I said “the Raiders are doing the right thing in TRYING to develop a young QB” I didn’t make any comment on how well they are doing. But since you implied as such…I believe they are on the right track with the kid.
2-games in with a 1-1 record and the front running fans become very easy to spot!
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:55 pm
TDouchey,
Dont respond then, punk.
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:57 pm
Dude Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:46 pm
Any one who is not doubting Russell right now is irrational. Simple as that. He has shown NOTHING to make anyone believe he is making positive strides.
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Go watch the Jets then!
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:59 pm
SnB,
Yep, you did say TRYING, my bad.
On the right track? After these two games there is no way you could possibly say that, no way. This team should be 2-0 and it neither game should have been close. Russell is THE reason this team in where it is.
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:59 pm
Some of you folks have gone so far over to hating Russell that you have little choice now but to root against him.
To see him succeed at this point would make many of you look foolish and probably would embarrass yourselves
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:59 pm
4/17 for 42 yards w/ 3:00 to go in the fourth quarter is justified to be a doubter. I hope I’m made a fool.
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:00 pm
Go watch the Jets??? Ummmm…OK. Good comeback. What the hell does that even mean?
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:01 pm
Yeah, and last year the Raiders should have been 8-8…
Would of, could of, should of….whatever…they are 1-1 and playing for 1st place this weekend.
I am as positive as it gets right now.
Playing for 1st place and its another week.
I am not dwelling on the Prevent defense against S.D or Russell’s early stats.
They win this weekend…then who cares.
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:01 pm
Yep, he is making fools out of all the doubters.
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:02 pm
Tdouche,
Again, dont respond tough guy.
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:04 pm
Dude, Raiders over Broncos by 10. You taking? Broncos +10? Nice gentlemen’s bet, just so I can say I owned you next monday?
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:04 pm
Dude Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:00 pm
Go watch the Jets??? Ummmm…OK. Good comeback. What the hell does that even mean?
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If you are looking for clean, easy, made for tv QB being developed with little to complain about…then go watch the Jets.
Its not perfect over here. Never has been. This team has had org. problems, coaching problems, leadership problems and all things in between. They have only had 1 decent QB in 20 years.
Its not easy over here. So instead of going on and on and on about how Russell’s season is already doomed…just go watch Sanchez and Ryan and cheer to your hearts content!
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:05 pm
Nobody knows whether or not in the end The Raiders patients with Russel will pay off, but it would stupid to give up on him already. It doesn’t matter what Ryan or Flacco or Sanchez or any other young QB does or has done. What matters is what the end product is with Russel, and you don’t give up on him until you know.
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:05 pm
Playing for first place? LOL! OK. LOL!! With an NFL QB they would be 2 and 0 right now and things would be looking up. Too bad thats not the case.
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:06 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 9:35 pm
Richochet, you can think whatever you want. Meet my friend, IGNORE. You and him will be acquainted from here on out.
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Good. Means I get to make you my personal punching bag, torch your idiot takes, knowing you’re in the fetal position, crying NO MAS.
The icing on the cake is I don’t have to read your stupid replies, that make no sense.
Perfect
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:08 pm
Dude you’re all talk over this blog but i know if i were to see you in person you would be dead silent so im not even responding to a lame dude like you anymore.you and those other dudes love hatin on people you need to worry about yourself or your lame team why you all on us?d*** ridin a** loser.
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:08 pm
SnB,
None of your Russell opinions are based on anything but hope and blind faith. At least admit that.
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:10 pm
I didnt miss it. It is as stupid this time as it was the first time. WTF do I care what those QBs are doing? Why dont you go cheer for those teams? Then your comments wont be so rediculous.
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:11 pm
Richochet, what was that? Did you say something? Leave a message with my friend “IGNORE”. I don’t like your attitude, man. I worked today. Just don’t want to read your hateful crap tonight. Sorry.
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:14 pm
Dude Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:00 pm
Go watch the Jets??? Ummmm…OK. Good comeback. What the hell does that even mean?
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Repost in case you missed
If you are looking for clean, easy, made for tv QB being developed with little to complain about…then go watch the Jets.
Its not perfect over here. Never has been. This team has had org. problems, coaching problems, leadership problems and all things in between. They have only had 1 decent QB in 20 years.
Its not easy over here. So instead of going on and on and on about how Russell’s season is already doomed…just go watch Sanchez and Ryan and cheer to your hearts content!
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:16 pm
Apparently some of these peoples idea of how to develoup a QB is that is soon as the going gets tough, you just give up and quit.
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:19 pm
Dude Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:08 pm
SnB,
None of your Russell opinions are based on anything but hope and blind faith. At least admit that.
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No, its not just hope and blind faith. I just have more patience than you do. I saw the kid flash enough times last yr to show me he can be the guy. I also give the kid a break for the coaching chaos and the lack of talent (Lelie, Curry, Harris, Green, Walker) I give the kid a break because he’s playing with rookies….btw I wonder if that QB camp helped Murphy and Watkins….I also give him a break for losing his favorite WR target near the end of camp.
You can call them excuses. Fine…but for me these are facts that do in fact influence the play of serveral positions includign the QB.
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:28 pm
This is the guys 3rd year. He should be a better player. Period. He is no better today than he was at the start of last year or the end of his rookie year. In todays NFL, you better be good fast or its buh bye. You think Al is gonna sit on his hands while guys like Sanchez, Flacco, Ryan, Cutler and Aaron Rodgers become stars in this league while his guy sets records for futility? LOL…ok.
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:29 pm
As much as Russell hassruggled at least he understan the teams makeup. He knows he has a good defense and a great punter. So he will see the ball again what he doesn’t wat to do is turn the bal overand give th other team a short field. Now tha may go unnoticed by th Blogger but that is called game management. And it is probably the biggest reason we wer still in the game and he could make that drive to wn it.
Mst shalow peple feel because he’s not as articulate as they think he should be, that he’s dumb. Well based on that respnse to those quesionshe definitely understands what the coaches want and what’s not happening. His role in the shortcomings ad what’s not happening for him to be as effective as he needs to be. Many have made the observation tht he stres at his recievers well when you can’t trust them you tend to do that.
Now we all know that Russell has to play better but until Chaz and JLH are healthy he my hae no choise but to just manage the game by throwing he ball away (15 feet over their heads) and livng to play another down. He’s saving this team and taking the brunt of criticism. That’s his job.
Eventually they will start to gel and when they do we’ll see what kind of QB Russell really is. So all you haters take your shots as best you can because your days are numbered.
For the immediate future (Sunday) we MUST run the football……..period
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:29 pm
Russell will be fine as soon as guy’s like DHB Chaz and JLH and Murphy continue to develope. He’s 3 and 1 in his last 4 starts if we win Sunday that’s a tie for first place even with the way he’s played recently.
Kiddies that is all that matters WINS!!
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:30 pm
Your words not mine.
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:32 pm
Even though Al Davis and his big top Circus act are MAJOR contributers to Russell being as bad as he is. We all know how Al likes to take the blame for things. LOL!
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:34 pm
Yeah, Duhmarcus Russell is a regular Rhodes Scholar.
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:36 pm
I must have missed the last 2 or 3 seasons or something. Because to hear you all talk Chaz Schillens MUST be a 2 or 3 time All Pro.
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:39 pm
Dude
USC= loser
DROPPED DOWN IN THE POLLS TO THE BIG 12 SPOT
Looking at the HOLIDAY BOWL- That’s about right for that team, all hype, can’t even beat a 0-12 team the Washington Huskies.
USC SUCKS
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:42 pm
Dude,
Your opinion is duly noted. You are not going to convince me otherwise. Either you like the kid or you don’t You clearly don’t. Okay….fine….what else you got?
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:45 pm
Chaz is as good a talent as you need and I’ll tell you something else DHB is going to be a beast before the year is out. I love Murphy who’s looking like he could challenge for rookie of the year.
But DHB is HUGE for a WR my guess is he really is about 6′3″ 215 or 220. When he stands next to DMC he’ actually bigger. He is very thick for a WR if he ever starts to get his hands on that football in open field he will be extremely tough to get on the ground. He’s every bit as big as Justin Fargas. I can’t wait to see this kid with the ball 5-6 times a game.
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:46 pm
1-1 and going into a big divisional game for 1st place. And all you people can do is make up clever nicknames and go on and on and on about how much you hate the kid.
Do you guys even want to see the kid play well?
Don’t bother to answer the question.
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:48 pm
You guys sound like its week 15 and the team is 4-11…pathetic.
Just Win Baby!
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:51 pm
Mistabrown Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:30 pm
Walker didnt play in the pre-season you brain dead buffoon.
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he played in the New Orleans game. But of course you didn’t know that. You are a Cleveland Browns fan. How are the Browns doing??? They’re 0-2 coming off a terrible season. Figures a loser like you would follow them off a cliff.
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:51 pm
Priesttj,
Good observation. Russell clearly is taking care of the ball. His acknowledgement of the defense and special teams…That’s a sign of maturity. He even explained to these losers that the timing between him and the receivers is still a work in process.
You know what I liked…he said move on to the next game….his temperment is good for the QB position.
People act like he’s oblivious to the need to get better…..he’s getting there….start number 19 coming up this weekend and I think the haters are going to be disappointed.
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:54 pm
SnB, Russell is dumb like a fox. His temperment in the middle of that game was outstanding and Murphy explained it. He said he kept looking at Russell and he wasn’t th least bit shaken or in doubt of himsel and he said it helped him refocus and just play through it. Tha is exactly wha I saw of Russell at LSU he never got rattled. He just look for the next opportunity to get them. That is why he does these late game heroics he just never gets flustered.
I saw the same thing in the Jets game last year in overtime. Three straight strikes for the win and it would’ve been a TD if JLH doesn’t drop the final throw.
Bottom line………the kid has “IT”
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:58 pm
JM is about as smart as a stump. He can’t complete a freakin sentence. Has no self control. Thinks about as fast as a turtle on chronic. Lacks leadership. Has yet to really show me the eye of the tiger. ( minus a couple of 4th quarter td’s, that I really can’t yet explain…ya know?
Rookie WR’s need to get in sync?
BULL
I see open WR’s on nearly every play.
We would be better off with either of the back ups….seriously.
September 23rd, 2009 at 10:59 pm
For the Raiders to win a game as ugly as they played is quite an improvement. Toughness.
September 23rd, 2009 at 11:03 pm
Mistabrown Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:30 pm
Walker didnt play in the pre-season you brain dead buffoon.
Mistabrown Says:
September 23rd, 2009 at 8:44 pm
No AlisNotGod,
Im aware Walker played about 3 plays against NO.
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Is this Browns fan the stupidest person on Earth or what?? Is there someone stupider??? Please, let’s have a stupidest person on Earth contest. I nominate the Browns Fan, mista brown fan.
September 23rd, 2009 at 11:10 pm
oakglenn
“Is this Browns fan the stupidest person on Earth or what”
man I agree with you 100%
What a TARD!
September 23rd, 2009 at 11:20 pm
New Post up Triple 6.
September 24th, 2009 at 11:18 am
To Richochet
Sure the Raiders have sucked for the last 7 years, but would you tell me what has been so great about the 49ers season records in that same time frame. 2003; 7-9, 2004; 2-14, 2005; 4-12, 2006; 7-9, 2007; 5-11, 2008;
5-11. Sames to me the 49ers have been picking high on the draft alot in the last few years. All talk, no action.