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It was Gannon all along

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Friday, September 25th, 2009 at 6:36 pm in Oakland Raiders.

So we finally know what has been wrong with the Raiders all these years.

It was Rich Gannon, of course.

The same Gannon who led the Raiders to three consecutive AFC West titles and a conference championship.

As reported by David White of the San Francisco Chronicle, the Raiders responded to Gannon’s brutal honesty regarding his former team by attempting to ban him from a Saturday production meeting with players and coaches.

UPDATE: The Associated Press is reporting the Raiders have backed off on the attempt to ban Gannon from the production meeting.

And when we say the Raiders, we mean one Raider.

Senior executive John Herrera was the source quoted in the story, but this was an Al Davis move. Herrera doesn’t have the authority to do this on his own, and Davis, whose old school code of loyalty is everything, surely feels Gannon is a traitor. I talked to Herrera and he stood behind all the quotes in the Chronicle story added that Gannon had been critical as recently as two weeks ago on a local radio station.

(Here is a link to a transcription of an interview Gannon did with KTHK in Sacramento on Sept. 8).

“Everything he said was negative, even saying that he liked coming out here but it was hard to watch,” Herrera said. “He was a journeyman quarterback when he came here, we gave him an opportunity, then he retires and all he does is attack us.”

He said Gannon has talked of “blowing up the building” and starting over and considered the quotes “incendiary” in a post-9/11 world.

Personally, I can’t recall Gannon saying anything like that, but Herrera assured me they exist and have been “documented.” Without even getting in to the paranoia that goes in to having someone keep a running file of all the mean things said about the organization, I’m speechless at the notion that if Gannon did say these things, that they were taken literally.

I asked Herrera if his comments were coming straight from Davis and his response was, “I think we’re done here.”

Production meetings are often on Friday, but there was no sign of Gannon at the facility today.

After Tom Cable wrapped up his press briefing today he asked me if I’d seen Gannon. I wonder if he even knew Gannon had been silver and blacklisted. May have even wanted to thank Gannon for saying what a great job he was doing as head coach.

That’s right. Included in Gannon’s most recent assessment on the Raiders was an endorsement of Cable.

Here was Gannon’s take his Sirius Satellite radio show on the job Cable is doing with the Raiders:

“I give Tom Cable a lot of credit, not a little bit of credit, a lot of credit. He knows exactly what he has in terms of his personnel and he is not going to try to beat you throwing the ball 35 or 40 times. He understands the strength of that football team right now, and last year as well, without question is not the play of the quarterback, it’s the three running backs he has in Darren McFadden, Justin Fargas and Michael Bush.

“And that, combined with the fact that they have an offensive line that was really bad a year ago in terms of pass protection, and with a young quarterback and with inexperience at the wide receivers, he’d be crazy not to run the football.

So I tip my hat to Tom Cable and what he’s been able to accomplish the first two weeks of the season. They are a better football team defensively, they can run the ball, and that has to be the M.O. as they head down the road the next six or eight weeks until JaMarcus can come along, until their young receivers can develop.

“But I think guys like Greg Ellis and Richard Seymour, their ability to stop the run, something they didn’t do a very good job of a year ago, that has to be the strength of this football team. Tom Cable knows what he has and he’s done a good job the first two weeks in making sure that’s a point of emphasis.”

Take a look at Gannon’s breakdown of Raiders quarterback JaMarcus Russell, as well as the one by passing game coordinator Ted Tollner, and both men make a lot of the same points.

Herrera repeated the belief that Gannon was trying to deflect blame from his poor Super Bowl, when he threw five interceptions.

That would indicate the blame for the Super Bowl loss rests squarely with Gannon, coming during a week where the Raiders have maintained the failures of the Oakland passing game are a collective effort, and not simply the fault of Russell.

Years ago, Jon Gruden told a reporter a story about how Gannon, angered that he couldn’t get in the building early enough to get started on the day’s work, would throw pebbles at his window so he could get in the building early.

Looks like he’ll need more than a pebble this time around.

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  • Richochet

    THAT WASN’T POST 76..
    anyway…

    Silver-n-Smac Says:
    September 26th, 2009 at 12:20 am
    Richochet Says:
    September 25th, 2009 at 11:59 pm

    You’re an idiot.
    You say the Raiders gave GANNON A SHOT AT BEING A WINNER? lol..uh..ask Gannon who MADE WHO A WINNER? You think the Raiders go to the SB WITHOUT Gannon?

    **************************************************

    Uh. . . .your point is rather lame Richochet.

    It’s pretty obvious it goes both ways. As Priest correctly stated, Gannon never sniffs a Superbowl without the Raiders. You really think he was going somewhere with the Chefs? LOL And yet, as you say, he definitely WAS an integral part in the Raiders turning the corner (one of the few times anything intelligent came from you – dang! Didn’t know you were capable of that!)

    Richochet: Stop with the babble. Point was the baffoons here, especially Priest, act like Gannon should NEVER have the gall to TELL THE TRUTH..that he should just shut up, avoid all questions about the Raiders, because..THE RAIDERS GAVE HIM HIS SHOT. No one said he was going to win with KC, but NO ONE WILL EVER SAY THE RAIDERS WIN WITHOUT GANNON.
    So..who owes who? NEITHER DOES. Gannon had a job to do, and he did it. Raiders PAID HIM to do it.
    What has Raider fans all pissy is that he dare TO TELL THE TRUTH.
    Why shouldn’t he?

    —————————

    With that being said, the Raiders were winning Superbowls when Gannon was a little pup.

    Richochet: Idiot reply. What you mean is the Raiders HAVEN’T WON A SB SINCE GANNON WAS A LITTLE PUP…been OVER A QUARTER OF A CENTURY…so..what’s obvious..is the Raiders have forgotten what it takes to win a SB..and still can’t remember.

    ===============
    So give it a rest already with the insinuations that Gannon was the Messiah for the Raiders.

    Richochet: right about the time the dumbasses quit with the “My panties are all wadded up everytime I read that Gannon states we’re the most dysfunctional organization in sports…HE OWES US.”

  • Silver-n-Smac

    Richochet Says:
    September 25th, 2009 at 11:59 pm

    You’re an idiot.
    You say the Raiders gave GANNON A SHOT AT BEING A WINNER? lol..uh..ask Gannon who MADE WHO A WINNER? You think the Raiders go to the SB WITHOUT Gannon?

    **************************************************

    Uh. . . .your point is rather lame Richochet.

    It’s pretty obvious it goes both ways. As Priest correctly stated, Gannon never sniffs a Superbowl without the Raiders. You really think he was going somewhere with the Chefs? LOL And yet, as you say, he definitely WAS an integral part in the Raiders turning the corner (one of the few times anything intelligent came from you – dang! Didn’t know you were capable of that!)

    With that being said, the Raiders were winning Superbowls when Gannon was a little pup.

    So give it a rest already with the insinuations that Gannon was the Messiah for the Raiders.

  • Silver-n-Smac

    And by the way, I was a HUGE Gannon fan.

    The boy had balls when we needed some balls.

    But, what he’s doing now is a bit over-the-top.

    He’s an analyst, so there’s nothing wrong with being critical. Hell, that’s his job.

    But, most of us. . . somewhere deep in our souls, would never go out of our way to constantly take shots at a person or persons that gave us our life’s biggest opportunity.

    That’s what Al & John G. did for Gannon.

    Most Raider players understand the term “once a Raider, always a Raider”

    Some guys don’t take that term to heart.

  • Richochet

    Come on Smac..”once a Raider, always a Raider”???
    Are you serious?

    that’s for fans, NOT players. Players will state that if pressed, because they know FANS like to hear it.

    to them? It’s business. For most of them, nothing more.

    You don’t really believe they buy into the big “rivalry” thing, do you? Oh sure, they want to win the division, play the other team twice each year, and KNOW about it..but living it?
    Doesn’t happen.

    You ever see the field after the game? it’s a big lovefest. Guys hugging, chatting it up, laughing..like long lost buddies. They know they’ll be traded or released, at some point.
    Long gone are the days where most retire with their team. Now, almost no one retires with the team that signed them in the draft..very rarely.
    They all know they’ll end up somewhere else, playing for who knows who.

    Can’t every teams fans say what you did?
    “Once a Bronco”? “One a Patroit”? “Once a Charger”?

    Players don’t care.

  • Silver-n-Smac

    Alright, I’ll give you that.

    I’d be naive to argue with much of that point.

    But, I gotta tell you man, there are a lot of Raider players who could have been doing a lot of talking during these past 6 years and I think most of them have shown the class not to.

    What’s the point? What do you gain? To me, a guy simply sounds stupid ripping into an organization that’s played in 5 superbowls.

    It would be one thing if we were talking about the Lions here.

    The reason I mentioned “Once a Raider, always a Raider” is that you can’t deny that Al Davis (with all his attributes and all his faults) takes care of his players, 95% of the time, down to the last guy on the Roster.

    Hell, the man helped pay for Derrick Thomas’ funeral. And he HATES the Chiefs.

    So, my point is. . . .yeah, it may not hold as much ground as it once did, but, the Raiders are STILL different from all other teams in that way and I think that’s cool.

    That’s one of the things I love about the team. But, I’ll get into that in another post.

    Damn! Am I having a civilized interaction with you?

  • Silver-n-Smac

    Well, I’m done for now.

    Goodnight Raider Nation.

  • http://www.car.org KoolKell

    Seeing the organization as a laughing stock, hurts former players and fans alike, no?

    Sometimes things need to be said, rather than accept the same ole same ole.

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    priesttj Says:
    September 25th, 2009 at 11:11 pm

    If Gannon realy wanted to help or reach back and be a good enfluence why not do it directly to the owner.

    …………

    What makes you think he didn’t try to? Do you honestly believe that, knowing what we know about Gannon, he didn’t break down Al’s door repeatedly in his final couple of years here, when the team was horrendous? If anything, Gannon’s discourse these days is more likely payback for Al ignoring his wishes and ruining the final years of his career than it is payback for Gannon being rejected for an executive job. Gannon wanting an executive job with the Raiders.. Ha ha ha!!!!! I challenge you to name one thing Gannon has every done or said in his life that would even remotely indicate he wants to be an executive under Al. In fact, he’s only behaved in ways that would indicate the contrary.

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    Again, as far as Gannon burning Davis…

    Davis burned Valley, in a way twenty times more grand that Gannon burned him. Those of you who feel Gannon betrayed Al, or you guys, for crying out loud, get into one big circle hug, cry it out, and get the F over it. Al Davis lives by the sword and dies by the sword, and right now he’s dying by it.

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    Richochet, when you accuse other people of living with their mothers, you do give the impression that you’re living in a beach house and dating 3 different NFL cheerleaders. Seriously.

  • 4evaRaider

    Good Morning NATION!!!

  • 4evaRaider

    1st PLACE IN ROUGHLY 30 HOURS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 4evaRaider

    Yep airing dirty laundry is just that…

    Sapp is way more critical than 5interception in da S/B Gannon.

    It figures herrera would talk 9/11 and Gannon in the same breath,gawd that one is the biggest reach of all

    Back-stabbing has always been the M/O in Oaktown,why should anything change now???

    I can see a little paranoia creeping in,but live by the sword die by it 2

    Big Al thought he and only himself could take da Raiders to the next step,thats wy he did what he had 2 do,IMHO

    Worked out good didnt it.So what last 6 years have been worse than hell,you cant win all the time in this league…

    So 42 years out of 50 aint to bad in the scheme of things.I’ll take it

    4 all you did 2 get us where we are Big Al this sticky bud is 4 you!!!

  • neilb

    I’ll go back to JB post 55……pretty much right on the money.

    My 2 cents……although I don’t like ex-players bad mouthing the Raiders,I’ll give Gannon a pass.The effort he put in,his will to win-as far as I’m concerned he can say what he wants within reason.I think he’s earned that right.IMO what he’s saying is more a constructive criticism.
    When you compare what Gannon has said to what Warren “who ate all the pies” Sapp has said,it’s like night and day.You’ve got one who obviously cares about the team and another who just wants copy.

  • neilb

    Sorry,forgot my manners.Item got my blood up a little…….

    Morning all.

  • 1960AutumnWind

    Hey

    Our winning percentage since the superbowl year is as bad as Jam Russells throwing percentage this year. It has been 6 years and the 2006 team was the worse Raider team relative to the rest of the leauge I have ever seen. They were lucky to get 2 wins. The bottom line is the critism is justified. Any sugar coating on this turd is what it is. I agree though that I think Cable is doing well so he is not all negative. I agree with Jerry….

  • 4evaRaider

    Yep continuity is what this team NEEDED most,imo.

    Cable is a perfect

  • neilb

    Anyone who wants to bad mouth Gannon,just ask yourself this.If we had the 2002 Gannon under centre right now,how many games do you think we’d win ?

    I’ll give you a clue…..play-offs.

  • neilb

    Jerry ref:Gannon.You forgot to say he was also the league MVP in 2002 and at this moment in time holds 8 Raider franchise records.

  • http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo249/the408RAIDER/749px-I-420svg.png 408RAIDER

    Morning nation. This whole gannon thing is laughs and all but id rather speak on how were gonna destroy the donkeys. Pound that rock play action and get miller involved early 23-17 raiders.

  • http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/oo249/the408RAIDER/749px-I-420svg.png 408RAIDER

    Big al is too sensitive

  • 4evaRaider

    Morning 408!!!

    I tink we win by 10 points or more

  • Jay

    Herrera is an idiot and a clown. Every time he opens his mouth he embarrasses the team and looks like a jackass. The only thing keeping this worthless moron around is his exceptional ass kissing skills.

    On top of this, Al Davis’s dumbass paranoia and 19th century era leadership skills make him look like a crusty old turd who is about 80 years old. Oh wait…

  • Kirk

    Rich Gannon is responsible for the only success this stupid team has had in the last 20 years.

    He is also speaking the truth.

  • exlaraiderseasonticketholder

    I cringed when we signed Gannon after his journeyman career in Mpls, Wash, and K.C. He succeeded in Oakland because of a great offensive system, good W.R.’s, good R.B.’s, a great offensive line, and yes, his dedication to film study and turning his weakness’s into strengths (For ex., lack of a cannon arm).
    But I put equal blame on Gannon and Callahan for not changing the snap counts, and plays for a team that knew what we were going to to in the S.B. The lost his credibility and my support after that.

    That being said, Let’s Kill the Donkey’s and shut Gannon’s and Sapp’s pie holes.

  • AirRade

    AirRade thinks, no, AirRade KNOWS succesful organizations do not do and say things like Jon Herrerra/Al Davis do and say. Simple as that. Jon Herrera is an absolute embarrasment and every time he opens his big mouth AirRade cringes.

  • exlaraiderseasonticketholder

    corrections:
    But I put equal blame on Gannon and Callahan for not changing the snap counts, and plays for a team that knew what we were going to do in the S.B. He lost his credibility and my support after that.

  • neilb

    Always good to beat the donkeys…..even better if we’re the first team to beat ‘em.

  • exlaraiderseasonticketholder

    Interesting that Callahan is the Asst. Head Coach of the Jets and in charge of Ryan’s offense. Sanchez’s development has been remarkable. Some can be great assistants but poor Head Coaches. Right Norv?

  • 4evaRaider

    yep

  • neilb

    Anyone a F1 fan ? Hamiltons got pole in Singapore.

  • exlaraiderseasonticketholder

    Ya, F 1 Bronco! LOL

  • alisgod

    what’s even more interesting is how a lot of you forget that Gannon’s exit with the Raiders was not a good one. Everyone remembers his 2002 season but they all forgot that he was not the same guy in 2003 and 2004. You are all nolstalgic about Gannon now but I do remember vividly that a good portion of the fans were favoring Kerry Collins AT THAT TIME after he beat Tampa.

    2002 67% completion
    2003 55%
    2004 doesnt count since he only played 2 games and got hurt after 2 plays against TB

  • alisgod

    Kirk,

    Actually, Gannon should be more thankful that he got paid for his services in Oak and got paid well after a hold out in 2003. He shouldnt be sharing dirty laundry in public. He should be more like Gruden…

  • 4evaRaider

    lmao

  • exlaraiderseasonticketholder

    The race can be watched live at http://www.channelsurfing.net

  • neilb

    Exla……Dick LeBeau is another one…..

    You seen Hamiltons’ girlfriend ? She’d be getting the pole if I had my way.

  • exlaraiderseasonticketholder

    By the way, Gannon got the pole in Alameda.

  • neilb

    Exla….we’ve got it live over here on normal TV.1pm start,so that’s about 5am for you ( I think )

  • neilb

    Lmao!!

  • exlaraiderseasonticketholder

    In 1982, I worked for a company that was one of the sponsors of the F1 Race through the parking lots of Caesars Palace in Las Vegas. We sold the racing jackets with the team logos. Style Auto. Clint Eastwood wore our leather jacket in the Dirty Harry film.

  • neilb

    Lmao for the Gannon joke,rather than you’re having to get up early…

  • exlaraiderseasonticketholder

    From Wiki:
    The Caesars Palace Grand Prix was a car race which was a Formula One World Championship event in 1981 and 1982. Nissan/Datsun was a presenting sponsor of both races.

    When Watkins Glen went off the schedule after 1980, F1 continued to look west and put an event in Las Vegas for the 1981 campaign. The new race ended the year, whereas Long Beach started it, but it was not popular among the drivers, primarily because of the desert heat. The track was laid out in the parking lot of the Caesars Palace hotel and was surprisingly well set up for a temporary circuit: wide enough for overtaking, it provided ample run-off areas filled with sand, and had a surface that was as smooth as glass. Its counter-clockwise direction, however, put a tremendous strain on the drivers’ necks. When Nelson Piquet clinched his first World Championship by finishing fifth in 1981, it took him fifteen minutes to recover from heat exhaustion after barely making it to the finish. The 1982 race was won by Michele Alboreto in a Tyrrell, but that was the end of Formula One racing in Las Vegas since the races had drawn only tiny crowds.

    The 1983-4 races were C.A.R.T.

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    Gannon’s stats his 1st 4 yrs in the league

    1990 14gms 182comp 349att 52.1% 2,278yds 16td 16int 68.9 rating

    1989 Did not play

    1988 3gms 7comp 15att 46.7% 90yds 0tds 0int 66.0 rating

    1987 4gms 2comp 6att 33.3% 18yds 0TD 1INT 2.8rating

    You guys are comparing Gannon after 13 yrs of experience where he bounced around the league to some 3 or 4 different teams. Be thankful for the three short yrs he gave the franchise.

    As we have seen over the last 20yrs…swapping out QBs and Coaches every couple of years leads to disaster

  • 4evaRaider

    4sure

  • 4evaRaider

    U2

  • neilb

    It’s a beautiful early Autumn day over here and I’m away out with the dog.Enjoy your Saturday….

  • AirRade

    AirRade has been trying to track down Joke Herreras email adress but has thus far been unsuccessful. When AriRade finds it he will be sending him a nice message and will share the address with the rest of you. AirRade OUT!

  • exlaraiderseasonticketholder

    here’s an article from Bleacher Report from before Lance’s firing about Herrera.
    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/61290-oakland-raiders-front-office-profile-john-herrera-and-friends

  • 4evaRaider

    Neilb is right…It’s a beautiful day…have fun NATION