Broncos 23, Raiders 3
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Sunday, September 27th, 2009 at 3:56 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Scoring
Den_Matt Prater 23-yard field goal, 11:57
Notes:
– Broncos take over on downs with 3:22 left. Going downstairs.
– Raiders take over at own 24 with 5:28 to play and 112 yards of total offense. You know what the fans had to say about that.
Russell runs 15 yards for a first down and gets some cheers. Then . . . false start, Erik Pears.
– Raiders take over at own 20 and go three-and-out, three incompletions, Russell getting more off target as game goes on. Afraid one last-ditch drive won’t do it here.
Raiders take over with 8:13 after forcing Denver’s first punt of the game. Boos greet Russell and the offense.
– Broncos take possession at the 49 and start the long process of running out the clock. They go three-and-out with two incomplete passes.
– Fights breaking out in the stands, fans led away in cuffs. They won’t have to watch. Raiders drive ends with Russell being sacked with Elvis Dumervill coming hard up the middle.
– Broncos drove 88-yards in 16 plays before settling for an 23-yard Prater field goal. The Raiders are giving way too much ground, doing well enough near the end zone to keep the score from getting even worse.
The 16-play drive took 8:08 off the clock, allowing the defense to stay on the field in the heat while Russell and the offense stay cold on the sideline.
Broncos have outrushed the Raiders 196-63 with 11:57 left in the game.
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September 27th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
don’t care what nobody says, russell and cable lost us the game.
September 27th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
5 carries to mike bush? inexcusable
September 27th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
Haha. F Al Davis. I hope he’s enjoying watching the millions he’s wasted on JaWalrus go down the tubes. Why do people even go to the games? No one should go to the games to prove a point to the old hag.
September 27th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
LAME
September 27th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
Terrible all the way around – but it starts with the QB. This team isn’t good enough to recover from early turnovers.
Start Gradkowski next week – what have we got to lose, except for another game.
Sit fatboy, no-heart, unmotivated, unintelligent, lazy, unwilling to get better, crooked beanie hat wearing Russell.
He doesn’t deserve to be the starting QB.
All you Gannon-haters – he called it out and you all blasted him. He was only telling the truth. Now you’re all booing JRuss like you just found out that he sucked…
September 27th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
man i tried to defend russell but crap us crap….he sux
78.jhill Says:
September 27th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
The ENTIRE offense is a mess!
2 Rookie WRs! DHB is NOT getting it done. Make excuses for him if you want, but Britt, Harvin, and plenty of other rookie WRs are doing WAY more. Heck, even Murphy!
Oline! Henderson and Gallery are probably the 2 guys who could start for another team. Pears, Morris, Carlisle, and Green should all be backups or out of the league.
Scheme! 2 and 3 receiver routes where both WRs go 10 plus yds down the field and th TE is doubled.
QB! No leadership or recognition to AUDIBLE to slant or crossing routes. Just bad play all around!
RB issues! Bush should clearly be starting and getting 20-25 carries a game. McFadden is not getting it done!
The ENTIRE offense is a joke and that is on Cable!
I bet you McDaniels would use McFadden, Bush, and Russell completely different that what we are seeing today.
Outcoached, AGAIN !!!!!!
September 27th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
Were is McClown?
September 27th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
wow…..
September 27th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
WORST YEAR EVER… BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
September 27th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
RB’s are not like QB’s they don’t take time to develop.
Let’s face it D-Mac sucks
September 27th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
wow…….
September 27th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
Miller is doubled, DHB is not open on his vertical pattern, and neither is Murphy.
Not quite sure who Gradkowski is going to throw it to when he gets in there.
Did anyone see any crossing routes?
Quick slants?
Hooks?
Maybe those patterns are too much for out QB?
September 27th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
wow….
September 27th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
6 losing seasons – working on 7
September 27th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
Our D line has provided NO pressure at all and gotten blasted off the line.
September 27th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
Why did we draft DHB again?
Man, Big Al has got to relinquish his reign over this team – the game has passed him by…
September 27th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
Get Walter back. He played better that Russell is right now and he had no line, receivers or RB’s. Say what you want about Walter but he did have a strong accurate arm. And, he was bright enough to learn all of the playbook.
Gannon made the observation that Russell’s audible aren’t they are fake calls. that probably because he’s not allowed yet to call real changes.
JaDumbSchit is a dagger is the a$$ of progress.
September 27th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
no these guys have no heart….
September 27th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
j.russ suxs needs to go back to alabama and feed the chickens, along with d-mac, this whole team suxs so bad i dont know what to say. im just lost. fuc im just pissed, fuc this sorry as team.
September 27th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
Yeah McFadden stinks! Goes down easy, has no moves or latteral movement at all and coughs up the ball like a fat cat with a furball.
September 27th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
Those last drives are puzzling. Seems like every WR is running deep routes. JR is hesitating to throw it to them. Its hard to tell whats going on down the field on TV.
But if so, calling all these deep routes is ridiculous. No body is underneath. JR runs for 15+ yards before someone gets to him?
September 27th, 2009 at 4:10 pm
Just waiting to here all the boos
September 27th, 2009 at 4:10 pm
We’ve been using an 8 man front in the 2nd half and still can’t stop the run.
September 27th, 2009 at 4:10 pm
We have millions tied up in DHB & Russell – MILLIONS! What have they done to justify paying them that much???
September 27th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
UPDATE:
Bey: 3 games- ONE catch – paid $1,200,000 so far.
Crabtree no games- NO catches- paid Zero so far.
The defense rests.
September 27th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
Well,a young coach and young players will make mistakes.Lets get ready 2 go 2 Houston and do our best
September 27th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
It’s cuz these Lbs suck azzz
September 27th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
Throwing a pass on 4th and 1, up 20 with 2 minutes to go. Cheap shot next time we better show some pride and cheap shot that SOB
September 27th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
Russell 22.61 QB rating.
Let’s see..a 44, then a 46..then a 22.
If you add all three weeks together, then you have a qb
September 27th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
The Donkeys go for it on 4th quarter and do it by passing…….jesus HUMILIATION!
September 27th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
R U S S E L L S U C K S period.
September 27th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
That was like stealing a base in baseball with an 8 run lead.
Next time you come up, you get one in the ribs!!!!!
September 27th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
not making excuses for DHB,but how can a WR make any impact if the QB is sooooooo bad he can’t get him the ball.as Esiason said russell is an anchor around the teams neck.you can deny it all you want but that doesn’t mean it isn’t true.he is a terrible player.
September 27th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
Terrapin Says:
September 27th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
I understand some of you are mighty upset ..so am I …but don’t lose your heads.
I really don’t think its Russell that’s the main problem here. A lot of it has to do with his support (and refs f’n up calls – 2 no calls on DHB that resulted in INTs). Young WRs and the playcalling.
The TE is getting doubled and taken out the game which leaves the WRs and they are not getting it done. Could be youth but really they are running too deep too many times which is playcalling.
The McFadden fumbles are killing us. That was 7pts and confidence on offense gone (same vs SD ..it cost us momentum).
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LET ME SAY IT AGAIN:
Russell 22.61 QB rating.
Let’s see..a 44, then a 46..then a 22.
If you add all three weeks together, then you have a qb
THIS ISN’T THAT HARD TO FIGURE OUT.
September 27th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
# WORKIN ON7 Says:
September 27th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
6 losing seasons – working on 7
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If they keep Russell in there and continue DMac as the primary RB they will have a lock on BAD YEAR 7.
September 27th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
ricoshat…why do you spend so much time here when you’re not even a Raider fan??
September 27th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
BRING ON THE HATERS….
September 27th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
hell i think j-russ couldnt even feed those chickens, they probabaly die, cause he would throw the feed over the fence to the cows, thats how stupid he is.
September 27th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
Our D is out of whack. We really cannot stop the run.
September 27th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
Because JaMarcus stinks, the rest of the team (who have been playing hard) are quiting……that is SAD!
September 27th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
I understand some of you are mighty upset ..so am I …but don’t lose your heads.
I really don’t think its Russell that’s the main problem here. A lot of it has to do with his support (and refs f’n up calls – 2 no calls on DHB that resulted in INTs). Young WRs and the playcalling.
The TE is getting doubled and taken out the game which leaves the WRs and they are not getting it done. Could be youth but really they are running too deep too many times which is playcalling.
The McFadden fumbles are killing us. That was 7pts and confidence on offense gone (same vs SD ..it cost us momentum).
September 27th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
Bengals just went up on Steelers 14 seconds left.
September 27th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
Terrapin
If the WR’s suck so much, why not put Javon in? At least he can run the correct patterns.
September 27th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
Chaz needs to be back in the game. I don’t expect him to be 100% but this offense needs something.
September 27th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
Terp,
How do you explain all the young WRs excelling all over the NFL? Murphy looks like a keeper, DHB looks horrible.
September 27th, 2009 at 4:18 pm
Bad playcalling, terrible performance by Russell.
Cable looked out of his element the entire time. It also looked like last week got into Russell’s head. If his psyche is that fragile, he’ll never be a starting quarterback.
I can’t believe I’m saying this… but I’m starting to wonder what Colt McCoy’s 40′ time is…
September 27th, 2009 at 4:18 pm
Got to admit that it is AL. This is the same offense that Schroder and Mark Wilson ran, the BED and BREAKFAST revised.
September 27th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
nice try, try again next week…
September 27th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
Haters my patoot……start Frye and Bush and go to a lot more Two Tight End formations.Ram it down the oppositions’ throat and use a QB that can move the chains….with Lechler and Seabass we’ll score and keep the defense on the bench.
September 27th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
4evaRaider Says:
September 27th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
Well,a young coach and young players will make mistakes.Lets get ready 2 go 2 Houston and do our best
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and come on jerry fix da site please
September 27th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
I will hold my tongue until the bye…..
September 27th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
McClown – I don’t think the WRs “suck”. I think they are just young and are running routes too deep too many times.
But I can’t be 100% sure of that looking at it on TV. I’m judging by where I see JR looking and his form when he’s looking to throw. Plus he ran damn 15yds up the field before ANYBODY touched him which says the WRs were DEEP!
September 27th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
Bad play calling? It’s the same stuff we have always run on offense, except when Gruden was here.
September 27th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
Russell needs to be benched. He should not get bacxk in the lineup until he earns it. SEND HIM A MESSAGE – Right now you are not the solution. You ARE part of the problem. Move DMac to Slot WR.
September 27th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
do any of you understand that the reason we throw so many 15-20 yd patterns is that is supposed to be the strength of our QB.and while so many of you are blaming the play calling,weren’t you the same people biotching because Fargas was getting the carries instead of McFumble.as much as i get upset with what the coaches do sometimes it is obvious they know a lot more than all the experts on here.but i guess that is what this forum is for-for us fans to vent.
September 27th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
We know JaMarcus is dumber than a bag of rocks. Whats worse is that that punk Al is even more dumb for drafting him.
September 27th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
This won’t hurt long at all …
Bynum, Gasol, Artest, Kobe, and D Fish will do wonder for my sorrow in a day or so!
September 27th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
Something needs to be done about Cornell Green.
September 27th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
I will say this, some of the comments coming in are rather funny…. Laughing is good, keeps you from blowing ISH up…..
September 27th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
Trade JR & D Mc for a defense!
September 27th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
The defense just got run on. It happened w/ the KC game and now with denver. It is getting worse. Forcing one punt the entire game?! Unbelievable!
September 27th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
RaiderTW ha ha ha
September 27th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
young american i was thinking the same thing about colt mcCoy,
September 27th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
The Browns benched Brady Quinn to day. Cable, take note of how it’s done.
September 27th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
Bradford is better
September 27th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
All you people that were begging for McFadden …well now you got him. Live with it and stick it out!
Fumblitis can be cured but damn they are hurting the offense right now.
Russell needs to play better – no question. But its not all on him. Its a combination of things thats for sure ….1 is not having a check down in many of these plays.
September 27th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
# JB Says:
September 27th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
The Browns benched Brady Quinn to day. Cable, take note of how it’s done.
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Yeah, because the Raiders totally need to be coached more like the Browns…
September 27th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
I Love McClown Says:
September 27th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
Because JaMarcus stinks, the rest of the team (who have been playing hard) are quiting……that is SAD!
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I didnt see NO BODY quit
September 27th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
Can I go a single week without being reminded of how badly I wanted Harvin to be a Raider?
September 27th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
Bring in romanawski as the head coach!
September 27th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
Even with that 30 mil, JaHamhock will be broke in a few years.
September 27th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
Yards mean nothing…KC had over 400 against us and still lost…A more telling stat was the 2 quick interceptions that Jmac threw…What wont show in the stats is after that Great goal-line stand by the D,Jmac gave it right back 2 them…that was a real ball-buster,imo
September 27th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
If JaMarcus Fatso doesn’t get benched, it only proves that management is just as pathetic.
September 27th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
372 TO 137 ON YARDS.
Ouch.
I feel bad for some of you.
No, really, I do.
You sprouted off all of these guarantees how the Raiders were going to be in first place.
And russell?? in the second half?
3 for 8…FOR ONE YARD.
One..
One yard passing..for the half.
Is that a record?
September 27th, 2009 at 4:30 pm
4evaRaider Says:
September 27th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
Yards mean nothing…KC had over 400 against us and still lost…A more telling stat was the 2 quick interceptions that Jmac threw…What wont show in the stats is after that Great goal-line stand by the D,Jmac gave it right back 2 them…that was a real ball-buster,imo
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Jerry you need 2 fix the site
September 27th, 2009 at 4:30 pm
Running deep patterns is not a problem but you need to have an underneath guy if things break down.
September 27th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
I can name quitters Howard, Morrison, warren, Kelly…hmmm they been here 3-4 yrs now…..
September 27th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
Russell isn’t getting better, he’s getting worse.
The whole offense is playing badly because Russell is just way out of his depth.
Yes our play calling is weak and predictable but the calls are predictable because Russell still doesn’t know the play book.
Cable is limited by what he can call and since every opponent knows that Russell is probably not going to complete many passes all they have to worry about is the run.
In Russell’s third year were waiting for him to learn the play book.
We should live so long.
Our defense is totally worn out after three games because they’re always out there and it’s starting to show after just three games.
We need to see what someone else can do as quarterback or else just forget about the year.
Sit him down and let him study for awhile.
September 27th, 2009 at 4:32 pm
417 posts IN A ROW from Terrapin, tossing in, or alluding to the fact IT’S NOT..SNIFF..SNIFF…JABLOTTO’S FAULT..IT’S NOT!!! DAMNIT..IT’S NOTTTTT!!.
We get it Turtle.
You love Russell. You have his poster in your bedroom. YOu have his jersey, and no one wants to buy it.
Oh..and you have a dollar bet that he’s not a bust.
Just pay up the dollar.
And accept the fact it was a sucker bet to begin with.
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Terrapin Says:
September 27th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
All you people that were begging for McFadden …well now you got him. Live with it and stick it out!
Fumblitis can be cured but damn they are hurting the offense right now.
Russell needs to play better – no question. But its not all on him. Its a combination of things thats for sure ….1 is not having a check down in many of these plays.
September 27th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
this is done russell is playing EVERYONE FOR A SUCKER ALL HE EVER WANTED WAS THE MONEY HE IS A IN YOUR FACE CHUMP. ZERO ATTENDANCE NEXT HOME GAME OR BENCH RUSSELL.PERIOD.
September 27th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
If i was a part of that defense and had to watch their pathetic offense, why would I want to “try”. Failure is contagious. Get rid of JaMarcus, he shows no leadership, he doesn’t know how to get it done.
September 27th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
jruss suxs, d-mac suxs, raiders suc, every one on offense suxs, except miller and murphy.jruss suxs, d-mac suxs, raiders suc, every one on offense suxs, except miller and murphy.jruss suxs, d-mac suxs, raiders suc, every one on offense suxs, except miller and murphy.al davis suxs the most. man i love this team they piss me off so bad.
September 27th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
Just when you think they were at a all time low, it just gets deeper, this is beyond pathetic.
September 27th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
# Richochet Says:
September 27th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
372 TO 137 ON YARDS.
Ouch.
I feel bad for some of you.
No, really, I do.
You sprouted off all of these guarantees how the Raiders were going to be in first place.
And russell?? in the second half?
3 for 8…FOR ONE YARD.
One..
One yard passing..for the half.
Is that a record?
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Can’t argue with this. It says it all. We still suck!
September 27th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
There are guys on this Raider team that are playing their hearts out only to have their efforts undercut by poor play by a few. The first game against SD was a disappointment but entirely acceptable due to the overall team play. But these last two weeks have exposed the need for some serious changes.
JaMarcus: Some QBs you can’t win without. JM is looking like a QB you can’t win with. He makes everyone around him look bad. Time to make some brutal choices.
Tom Cable – OC: Cable cannot be his own offensive co-ordinator and head coach. One cannot call plays on a hope and a hunch. They must be based on what your O can do in light of what the D is doing.
MacFadden: Turning to glass and developing a bad case of fumblitis. Where is M. Bush?
DHB: When will Chaz be back? Why not even try Javon?
It is time for Head Coach Tom Cable to realize he has a lot of talented guys who are playing too hard to have their season go down like this.
September 27th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
Terrapin Says:
September 27th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
I understand some of you are mighty upset ..so am I …but don’t lose your heads.
I really don’t think its Russell that’s the main problem here. A lot of it has to do with his support (and refs f’n up calls – 2 no calls on DHB that resulted in INTs). Young WRs and the playcalling.
The TE is getting doubled and taken out the game which leaves the WRs and they are not getting it done. Could be youth but really they are running too deep too many times which is playcalling.
The McFadden fumbles are killing us. That was 7pts and confidence on offense gone (same vs SD ..it cost us momentum).
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your sreen name should be tarzan you gotta quit swinging of japoatroast’s nutz hes horrible
your only right about one thing….. he’s not the only one but he’s unfixable.
cut your losses big al and move on
September 27th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
Yeah that’s why those four got to go…they are proven failures….
September 27th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
chiliwakt Says:
September 27th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
If i was a part of that defense and had to watch their pathetic offense, why would I want to “try”. Failure is contagious. Get rid of JaMarcus, he shows no leadership, he doesn’t know how to get it done.
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Absolutly with-out a doubt the single most ridiculous post EVER on this site.Was da matter chiliwakt,no back-bone or are you just a quitter???Well quit then you quitter bandwagon jumping turn-coat.Failure is never contagious to a professional…But digging deeper is
September 27th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
Actually I think JR is in real danger of regressing permanently, which is not good.
I guess starting 2 rookie WRs with a young QB trying to navigate his own to boot is not a good idea.
September 27th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
hey mayb j-russ will attempt to do himself off like v.y. in tenn, then cable will be forced to bench him.
September 27th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
Im with you earl, double tight end and pound the rock. When you have to pass KEEP IT SIMPLE dump it to the TE or a RB. Why is every pass a 20 yard post or corner route? Russell has looked awful but its about 75% his fault and 25% the coaches fault for setting him up to fail. I was really hoping for a nice competitive year where i wouldn’t be embarassed to tell people Im a raiders fan, guess Im gonna have to keep waiting.
September 27th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
We should start Charlie Frye.
September 27th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
JaBeefRoll simply doesn’t care. He’s got his $32 million so he’s set the rest of his life. Don’t draft QB’s of low intelligence. They need to be able to multitask and JR can only do one thing at a time – and, he’s not very good at that either. Bench him now and let one of the other two average back-up QB’s play. Either will provide upgraded play from the QB position.
September 27th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
I don’t know if it’s Morrison’s speed or his reaction time, but he really isn’t the kind of playmaker we need in the middle. Thomas Howard has been playing pretty well, but between Morrison and Brown, we’re in trouble at linebacker. It’s not a good sign when you see Branch and Huff having to come up and make tackles on every running play.
Colt McCoy or Brandon Spikes in the draft next year, anyone?
September 27th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
This offense is just a mess! No way around it. I doubt there is another coach in the league that would line up 2 rookie WRs like we do. It is going to get really ugly if we bring in Gradkowski or Frye and we run this same offense with these same WRs. Miller is out of the game from now on. Just accept that he will be doubled more often that not.
Rookie WRs running vertical routes are going to lose hat battle more often than not. And you factor in an inaccurate QB, and a patchwork offensive line?
The ENTIRE offense is a mess!
September 27th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
but i think u have to care for that to happen, his fat ass doesnt care about football just wants to take his mohawk and minks back to alabama, then maybe they can kick his sorry ass out of there cause he brought shame to the whole state.
September 27th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
I was hoping I could go at least 6 weeks before saying the season is over. That SD game took all the air out of the teams balloons and they have looked like utter garbage ever since the 4th quarter of that game.
September 27th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
Two Tight Ends…..start Bush…..ram it down their throats and start Frye….he is completely capable of moving the chains and more mobile tha JeMima Grissel. two tight ends also offer another reciever underneath.
September 27th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
Somebody w/ a shred of pride and dignity should get in people’s faces. The coaches got to motivate the players and design plays based on player’s strengths. Although i did see Russell operate from the shotgun the rookie receivers couldn’t shake man-to-man…damn this is frustrating!
September 27th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
Cable calls it like it is.says the players didn’t give the effort they should be giving,that they let the donkeys push them around.sounds like a legitimate evaluation to me.now Romanowski just said the same thing.
September 27th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
It’s starting to look more and more like the pre-season. A good opener, then downhill fast from there.
September 27th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
I’m done, another ridiculous loss……another waste of a Sunday, waste of money……
Seymour isn’t helping, there’s no intensity…….same old s***……….
September 27th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
I think Russell gets 1 maybe 2 more games like this and he’ll be benched.
September 27th, 2009 at 4:44 pm
I can’t wait until a new team commits to LA, now that all the legal hurdles have been cleared to build in Industry. After 24 years, this will give me a new team to root for; Al, you’re either an idiot, or you’re a genius.
September 27th, 2009 at 4:44 pm
i dont want a new team to chear for. i want to be like nacho libre says. I WANT TO WIN.
September 27th, 2009 at 4:45 pm
SOME BODY TELL MARCUS ALLEN TO ATTEND A TEAM MEETING AND TELL EVERYBODY HE HAS NO GRUDGES AGAINST AL AND VICE A VERSA THEN BENCH RUSSELL.WHAT A IN YOUR FACE SHAME .GROWN MAN ACTING LIKE AN ELEVAN YEAR OLD MAMA,S BOY.NO HEART ,NO PASSION,NO VISION.BENCH PICKLEHEAD RUSSELL.
September 27th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
maybe j-russ needs eagle eggs special powers. l.m.a.o. russ suxs
September 27th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
Terrapin Says:
September 27th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
I understand some of you are mighty upset ..so am I …but don’t lose your heads.
I really don’t think its Russell that’s the main problem here. A lot of it has to do with his support (and refs f’n up calls – 2 no calls on DHB that resulted in INTs). Young WRs and the playcalling.
The TE is getting doubled and taken out the game which leaves the WRs and they are not getting it done. Could be youth but really they are running too deep too many times which is playcalling.
The McFadden fumbles are killing us. That was 7pts and confidence on offense gone (same vs SD ..it cost us momentum).
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your sreen name should be tarzan you gotta quit swinging of japoatroast’s nutz hes horrible
your only right about one thing….. he’s not the only one but he’s unfixable.
cut your losses big al and move on
September 27th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
the Raiders have reached the bottom and started digging
September 27th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
EXACTLY YOUNGAMERICAN – Seeing these safeties have to come up and make these tackles is not encouraging.
The LBs were no where to be found all day!
September 27th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
4evaRaider Says:
September 27th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
chiliwakt Says:
September 27th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
If i was a part of that defense and had to watch their pathetic offense, why would I want to “try”. Failure is contagious. Get rid of JaMarcus, he shows no leadership, he doesn’t know how to get it done.
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Absolutly with-out a doubt the single most ridiculous post EVER on this site.Was da matter chiliwakt,no back-bone or are you just a quitter???Well quit then you quitter bandwagon jumping turn-coat.Failure is never contagious to a professional…But digging deeper is
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jerry you need 2 fix the site
September 27th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
JaBeefRoll should man up, call a press conference and publicly apologize to his teammates, the coaching staff, the ownership and most of all the fans for his totally inadequate play. Short of that, he ought to just retire and go home down South and let us get on with life.
September 27th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
The throw that Favre made at the end of the game to comeback and win it. Man!
September 27th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
That’s what I’m saying, Marcus Allen….
September 27th, 2009 at 4:48 pm
Russell should be given two more games?!
No way. Let him sit down until he learns the play book for one thing and until he can contribute to the team.
We should start Charlie Frye.
September 27th, 2009 at 4:48 pm
I want to hear you Davis apologists defend this team now. C’mon…
Well…?
September 27th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
12-21 for 61 yards. 0 TD’s and 2 INT’s. Haven’t seen a disaster like that since the SB blowout.
JR looked to over throw DHB on the first int (even if he wouldn’t have tripped over his own feet). On the 2nd INT I couldn’t tell if he over threw a covered DHB or underthrew a wide open Murphy.
Is it too late to get Drew Breeze and draft Calvin Johnson with our 1st over-all draft pick? oh, wait, nevermind………
This was statement game. Unfortunately, they made the wrong statement. I liked the fire that Seymore showed by dragging Clady around by his braids, too bad it didn’t fire up the rest of the Defense.
Rushing:
Buckhalter: 14 for 108 (7.7 ypc ave)
Moreno: 21 for 90 (4.3 ypc ave)
DMC: 12 for 45 (3.8 ypc ave with 2 fumbles)
Bush: 6 for 20 (3.3 ypc ave)
I’m not sure how much of a difference Gallery could have made with this piss poor effort in all aspect’s of the game. Don’t even get me started with the Not So Special Teams.
Mitchell, nice fumble recovery Rook!
September 27th, 2009 at 4:50 pm
Al is proving a point, that we can still root for a team, regardless of how pathetic he can make it. I am now truly convinced that Al is a genuine NUT JOB. And next week, he will prove me right.
September 27th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
im considering becoming a closet raider fan
at the ripe age of 35 i should live to see some more glory years
gruden, shanahan, cowher, bellicheck
no veteran coach will ever come to oakland
we will never have someone like we faced today with a football mind because al davis is an ego maniac.
September 27th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
Romaniwski hit the nail on the head…defense is about smashing the running back in the face, when you hit them they go back, not catching tackles…
September 27th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
JB,
And how did Quinn’s backup do?
September 27th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
I wonder why an Cable, an offensive line guy, is calling consecutive pass plays after that goal line stand. If he REALLY had confidence in his Oline, wouldn’t you think we would see an entirely different game plan?
Pears?
Morris?
Carlisle?
Green?
2 Rookie WRs ?????
You guys are fooling yourselves thinking replacing the QB is going to change anything! There is not ONE QB on this roster who can make a difference with the ingredients we have to work with.
Oh …. And has anyone seen a pass rush anywhere around? We seems to have lost ours!
September 27th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
bring back GRUDEN This just in from GRUDEN:Hey AL!!! How Does My A** Taste????
September 27th, 2009 at 4:54 pm
The Raiders have the talent to move the chains, eat up the clock and kick a fiels goal damn near every series….and if they can’t get close enough for Seabass let Lechler bury them deep…..enough with the big play mentality already…it also keeps the defense on the bench most of the game.
September 27th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
Whats that sucking sound I hear coming from out west ?? Utah news reports it is Al Davis !!! Forcast calls for no end in sight – 80 yrs old and going strong. If Al loves the Raiders and its fans he needs to step aside. Enjoy his reamining tys while somebody new leads the team. He may even live long enough to see them restored to glory and super bowl wins. Not under his command though.
September 27th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
What good does it make to get high draft picks if you bring ‘em into such a chaotic environment. This organization needs to get its act together and Davis needs to retire into his delusional senility. We were good three decades ago, you got to change your mentality as the game changes or else suffer stunted growth. 6 years going on 7 is a long f_cking time.
September 27th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
how about some bunch sets, wide reciever screens, comeback routes for DHB. Get him the ball. Cable is just another puppet for an outdated offense
September 27th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
Jhill,you can make excuses for the fat slob all you want.you can deny the fact he is terrible.but even the homers Greg Papa and Tom Flores are saying Russell has been doing terrible.but what do they know right.
September 27th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
jay Richardson just said ” we earned the boos!”
September 27th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
TRADE FOR KEVIN KOLB
September 27th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
LOL quitter?? 4evaraider, you’re a dumbass. You were probably still sucking on your momma’s areolas when I was rooting for the raiders. Now, I refuse to give another dime to The nutcase that runs the team.
September 27th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
# jhill Says:
September 27th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
JB,
And how did Quinn’s backup do?
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He threw for more than 1 yard in the second half so I guess the answer is better than JaBeefRoll did.
September 27th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
Lefty!!!
WTF are you talking about!
I have repeatedly said Russell is not playing well. Not at all playing like a number one overall pick. I called for Gradkowski in the 2nd qtr!
You want to keep pegging me as a JRuss supporter, fine! Whatever floats your boat. I didn’t have you as a guy who makes up stuff.
The ENTIRE offense – JRuss, McFadden, Oline, penalties, passing game coordinator, EVERYONE – AND our LBs! – THEY ALL SUCK!
You folks obssessed with JRuss are the delusional ones. JRuss gives this team the best chance to win, like it or not. Gradkowski or Frye – Just like Anderson who came in for Brady in Cleve – are not going to do any better. JRuss sucks, but so do they!
September 27th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
Hey, where did Alisgod and SnB Offense Defense Special Teams disappear to? C’mon, dipsticks, let’s hear your excuse for this ongoing train wreck. Was it Gannon’s fault? Did he hurt the team’s feelings?
September 27th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
TazZRaider is absolutely correct with the first post!
1st) Mr. Jamarcus Russell is not an accurate passer,also he hesitates, we must ignore his high percentage today as most were to RBs (w/ 3-4 for negative yards);
2nd) Coach Cable must give up the play calling dutties, he is calling plays to make Al’s last three 1st round picks (DHB, DMC, & Jamarcus) look good rather than for positve yards, touchdowns, and victories;
3rd) Mr. Mc Fadden fumbles way too much for a #1 RB, he has lost two vs. division opponents in their territory (once v SD);
It was nice to see Mr. Fargas run with authority.
Regrettably our starting qb is not as good as the Eagles 4th string qb.
September 27th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
The Raiders will not win again while Al Davis runs the show. Simple as that. He has destroyed his legacy and created an organization that is rotten from the core. Everything the Raiders touch turns to crap, Russell being the most obvious case in point. Cable, a good guy, is clearly not up to the task, but Davis cannot work with a real coach.
Things will not get better — cannot get better — as long as Davis drafts the players, makes the roster, chooses the coaches, and continues to ruin a once-great team.
He is a paranoid, ego-driven old man with some degree of dimentia. Commitment to Excellence!
September 27th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
Cable is an awesome O-line coach, to be fair. He somehow turned Gallery into a legitimate guard, and Henderson into a passable left tackle.
But for the life of me, I can’t figure out why he’s calling the plays. Too many dumb attempts at big yardage without establishing the running game, too conservative when we actually need to string a drive together and keep our defense off the field.
And where are the screen passes to McFadden and Bush?
September 27th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
12 of 21 for 65 yards and two interceptions!
Holy Toledo!
September 27th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
Just sell, Baby.
September 27th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
Boycott The Raiders – It’s For Their Own Good
September 27th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
Where are the screen passes to McFadden and Bush?
Russell has trouble with completing screen passes even when the target is open-he showed that last week.
September 27th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
Positions of need:
QB
MLB
RT
RG
WR
September 27th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
this guy IS really wacked…he thinks he is making progress! Man russell is dumb
September 27th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
Cmon JB …
Let’s be real!
Anderson came in and threw for 90 yds and 3 picks. Is that what you really want to see? We do not have Flacco, Sanchez, or Farve on the bench.
Anderson is the guy that sebt Frye packing, LOL!
Garcia (the 4th string guy in Philly) kept Gradkowski on the bench, LOL!
There is no saviour coming in for us. Our offense sucks for A LOT of reasons!
September 27th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
Ummm…I’d say the team is 65%-75% rebuilt by big Al they just need time…but still the last 25% is a QB…I still pullin 4 Jmac 110%
September 27th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
Bush should have been starting since the beginning of last year over Darren McFumble.
This really is the stupidest team in football.
September 27th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
I just don’t know where the JaMarcus Russell from the last half of last season went. He was truly making progress.
September 27th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
Raider Young Guns misfire…
Jay zuz…FOUR PICKS?! FOUR FUMBLES?!
Even the vaunted running game is sucking.
Good to hear about Mitchell and Branch though…
http://www.raidernationstation.com/2009_regular_season
September 27th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
Word press sucks too…
Raider Young Guns misfire…
Jay zuz…FOUR PICKS?! FOUR FUMBLES?!
Even the vaunted running game is sucking.
Good to hear about Mitchell and Branch though…
http://www.raidernationstation.com/2009_regular_season
September 27th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
Today we saw what happens when one team drafts offensive tackles in the first round, and the other team drafts the guy with the best 40 time.
September 27th, 2009 at 5:06 pm
4Eva,
If I was Cable, I’d be pulling JR to the bench with another “ankle injury” until he can get his mechanics fixed. He looked a little better, but the Offence was way to vanilla today. Didn’t have the slants, or any trickery with the WR’s. Not sure if its JR or the young WR’s. Maybe this was their way to evaluate him with out being able to blame the WR’s for his screw ups?
September 27th, 2009 at 5:06 pm
4eva says i’m still pulling for jmac.if we are Raider fans we really don’t have much of a choice,do we?
September 27th, 2009 at 5:06 pm
Man, Time to find a new QB. At least we may have a new ROT, As long as Russell does no false start he would be an upgrade but, who isn’t at this point?
September 27th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
How can Oakland be so harsh towards Rich Gannon when he has been the only light shining on the position of quarterback for Oakland since like forever! Our offense will not be able to win with Jamarcus at the helm. The play calling is terrible whether it is coming from Cable (DOUBT IT) or from the madman in the booth. It is getting harder and harder every week watching them look like they are playing football for the first time (offense). I know it is only a matter of time before the defense gets tired of working their butts off and nearly playing the whole game while their QB is gaining weight on the sidelines while he watches. I am so dissappointed!!!!
September 27th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
if we start hitting shorter passaes that would open up longer ones there already stacking 8 in the box so a quick slant to jlh or dhb could produce some positive yardage. the play calling sucks.offense is antique.
September 27th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
Been a fan since Cotton Davidson was QB punk
September 27th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
IMO, if JR was going to make a mark in the pros, it would have happened already. The only mark he’s left are the schit stains on the field. Cable deserves his share of blame also – for not benching JR and for having an offensive guaranteed to fail. Why are we not focusing on our one strength – running. Why is he featuring DMac as the main runner when he’s a part time RB at best? Bush should be the main ball carrier with Fargas & Rankin as the backup. DMac should be repositioned to the slot WR position. He needs to get the ball “in the open” before he can make a difference. Run a double TE formation with Miller and Meyer. Both have great hands and can help the real running game. I understand that this strategy is not the typical Raider approach but we’ve already seen what that produces. Unless they make some serious changes, our team will regress. Another top 5 pick is on the horizon. Any good QB’s coming up?
September 27th, 2009 at 5:09 pm
the offense is young and sux but the play of the defense sucks more. Defense is about attitude and the only guys with attitude on this team are nmamdi and Seymour…the rest have no heart
September 27th, 2009 at 5:09 pm
By game’s end, the only thing that captivated the disappointed fans was the numerous fights in the stands. Several people were arrested, including at least two women.
September 27th, 2009 at 5:09 pm
that would be correct Lefty12…if we are fans.Obviously many here are NOT
September 27th, 2009 at 5:10 pm
Play ANYONE but Russell.
Play Plunkett, he goes to every game anyway.
September 27th, 2009 at 5:10 pm
lol 4evaRaider, you crack me up. go ahead and pull for him. I lost whatever respect i had for Al when he cut Garcia. I hope he gives up the reigns soon.
September 27th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
russell sucks
September 27th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
On the way home from the game I had a great idea, lets play the guys we pay the most, instead of the guys that play better for less, that way we can save face(i guess?)
September 27th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
They should have given Gannon the ball. He would probably do better than any of the guys we have now.
September 27th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
They play flat. Pu-ss-ies is I think seems to fit this offense…
September 27th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
Gawd! Wut the wut?!
Raider Young Guns misfire…
Jay zuz…FOUR PICKS?! FOUR FUMBLES?!
Even the vaunted running game is sucking.
Good to hear about Mitchell and Branch though…
http://www.raidernationstation.com/2009_regular_season
September 27th, 2009 at 5:14 pm
Peace Raider nation, man I’m disheartened…
September 27th, 2009 at 5:14 pm
Raiderwoj, or how about playing Jeff Garcia and giving Jamarc a chance to learn the system and not destroying his confidence. Oh wait, Garcia is gone. If Jeff was here, we would be 2 and 1 now.
September 27th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
Raider951…
2day I think it was more Cables fault with play-calling.He tried 2 force the issue with DHB and after that donkeys did what everybody does when we are down…they put 8 or 9 in da box.
I think if we would have come out conservative and got our flow thats when it seems Jmac is more comfortable.And thats 2 bad b/c when was the last time we had a goal-line stand???
September 27th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
we have a bad team really bad it cannot be sugar coated
anyone wonder what the giants, baltimore, philly, are going to do to japoatroast
hell we were even hand picked like a homecoming game for the thanksgiving day game in the new stadium.
denver had a protege calling their schemes and game planning.
we had a fat lineman coach wow im getting pissed.
September 27th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
man the broncos gotta be the worst 3&0 team…as kanya would say…of all time
September 27th, 2009 at 5:17 pm
First of all any one who recommended that we draft for skill position players in the last two drafts (Dmac and a WR) need to deal with this reality. We have an average Oline WITH Gallery.
Without him well, you see the result.
Our skill guys are very young and need to play through this. Poor line play just makes the process longer and more embarrassing.
We will get hammered several more times this year and seven wins will be a success.
The Seymour acquisition has made our defensive line average. Much better than last year but basically we have an average Dline.
DRAFT FOR THE LINES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 27th, 2009 at 5:17 pm
“By game’s end, the only thing that captivated the disappointed fans was the numerous fights in the stands. Several people were arrested, including at least two women.”
Ha! I love football. But it sure is helluva more fun when your team steamrolls the other instead of the other way around.
September 27th, 2009 at 5:18 pm
Gotta do a favor 4a friend BBL NATION
DIG DEEPER
September 27th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
Anybody that lost respect for Al because of Garcia is a 9er fan that don’t know football. Exactly what did that 39 year old Eagles forth stringer do that makes you want to keep him for the 6 games he’ll be healthy?
September 27th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
Positions of need:
QB: Goes without saying, really. Russell doesn’t have a lot of time left to show he can be a starter. That said, with Al Davis at the helm, I wouldn’t be surprised if Russell is still starting under center on opening day next season.
MLB: Morrison is non-existent against the run, and can’t keep up with slot receivers and running backs in the passing game. He’s not the defensive presence in the middle we so desperately need.
RT: Cornell Green, enough said.
WR: Can Schilens stay healthy? We could use some steady veteran influence (Javon Walker doesn’t count).
CB: Stanford Routt is a liability whenever he’s on the field. He needs to go.
September 27th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
# Culebra Says:
September 27th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
Philly, Dallas,Giants and jets, Baltimore…I say we win one of those games.
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You are a dreamer. I say 0-5
September 27th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
4evaRaider, thats what I’m talking about, what does the offense do in return after that goal line stance??? Turn it over. Kind of hard to continue that kind of effort when your offense throws “sh@t” in your face after an awesome 4 and out.
September 27th, 2009 at 5:22 pm
Horrible. Draft a QB.
September 27th, 2009 at 5:22 pm
Jhill,we usually see things similarly,but we don’t now.i don’t see a big problem with the O-line.for the most part our QB has been getting plenty of time to throw the ball.the reason we are calling the patterns we are calling is,imo,because those are the patterns that are supposedly our QBs strengths.imo,our off. would be much better and much more productive if Russell wasn’t playing.however we all know he won’t be benched-too much money.
September 27th, 2009 at 5:23 pm
Raiderwoj, Garcia was a fighter, he put forth the effort and his safety to try to win. Just like Hosstetler, just like Gannon. he is what Fargas is as a running back. You can’t deny that. Those are intangibles that would have tilted the San Diego game our way.
September 27th, 2009 at 5:23 pm
We need the wildcat. keep Russell off the field. Release Routt as fast as he releases the recievers!
September 27th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
chili
lets play a sorry, old Qb and still have a losing season. Thats what I would do. If you think Garcia can lead us anywhere, ur trippin. I’ve tried to be optimistic about Jruss, but I can’t anymore, time to move on. Bring in SOUTHWICK!
September 27th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
Philly, Dallas,Giants and jets, Baltimore…I say we win one of those games.
September 27th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
Ragin no one quit!
The D played solid in the beginning;
A 4 down Goal Line Stance!
Denver’s first ten points were off TOs.
Raider’s offense were 3 & out, again, on their 1st drive and threw an int on their second to give Denver excellent field position after the Raider’s defensive goal line stance and then on their next drive right after McFadden ran a long run on the right side, Jamarcus overthrows a wide open WR and right into the hands of the Denver DB.
There was only one thing worse to see than Jamarcus’ qb play, and that was the Seahawks uniforms.
September 27th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
“F” AL DAVIS….. Ill never feel good about this team till hes done. this is the easiest team to prepare for. its the SAME EVERY FING WEEK! Hey AL, try playing to the opponents weakness. I CANT TAKE THIS CRAPP NO MO!!!!!
September 27th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
todd reesing of kansas is my pick for qb
September 27th, 2009 at 5:27 pm
Jhill,we usually see things similarly,but we don’t now.i don’t see a big problem with the O-line.for the most part our QB has been getting plenty of time to throw the ball.
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The biggest problems with the O-line are the frequent penalties on Green and Cooper Carlisle’s age.
Dumervil ran all over Green today. Pathetic.
September 27th, 2009 at 5:28 pm
im still trying to figure out who stunk worse the dfnse the offense or the play calling hmmmmmm cable first dmac second russell third and the run d fourth
September 27th, 2009 at 5:28 pm
Get Kevin Kolb! Michael Vick! Charlie Batch! What is Tommy Maddox doing? Andrew Walter? Bring back Culpepper! Start Frye! Southwick? Lechler! Start Lechler!
September 27th, 2009 at 5:28 pm
chiliwakt Says:
September 27th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
4evaRaider, thats what I’m talking about, what does the offense do in return after that goal line stance??? Turn it over. Kind of hard to continue that kind of effort when your offense throws “sh@t” in your face after an awesome 4 and out.
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1st dn – play action pass play to the FB Luke Lawton – dropped pass.
2nd down – play action deep pass to DHB that was picked off.
REALLY!!!!!!
That play calling sequence was one of his worse to date. I think 99% of the guys on this blog could have called for a heavy dose of Bush one way or another. Lawton ???? DHB Deep ????
Puh-Leeze!
September 27th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
Michael Irvin just highlighted how DHB was responsible for the 2 picks that JRuss threw. Of course mentioned the $ he was getting.
September 27th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
chiliwakt Says:
September 27th, 2009 at 5:23 pm
Raiderwoj, Garcia was a fighter, he put forth the effort and his safety to try to win. Just like Hosstetler, just like Gannon. he is what Fargas is as a running back. You can’t deny that. Those are intangibles that would have tilted the San Diego game our way.
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At what point in preason or now do u see that? He’s 4th string behind Mcnabb, he’s done and so are we as long as JRuss plays.
September 27th, 2009 at 5:33 pm
It is evident that Jamarcus is a bust. His work effort (i.e. lack there of) and professionalism has proven to be his downfall. It is time for us to cut our losses with this piece of crab. I would rather watch Frye or Gradkowski any day out there.
September 27th, 2009 at 5:34 pm
Jhill,bet he didn’t mention the illegal contact that caused DHB to cut the route short did he?
September 27th, 2009 at 5:34 pm
jhill Says:
September 27th, 2009 at 5:38 pm
the reason we are calling the patterns we are calling is,imo,because those are the patterns that are supposedly our QBs strengths.imo,our off. would be much better and much more productive if Russell wasn’t playing
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To a degree, we do still agree. Damn what our QBs strengths are SUPPOSED to be, play to the TEAM’s strengths. That’s why I blame Cable (or AL) for this mess. I totally agree that they are trying to run an offense that is tailored to JRuss suppossed big arm. Absolute wrong way to go about it!
The reason you think the offense would be better with a QB change is most likely the offense will change. You won’t have that vertial offense being called b/c that is not Gradkowski’s strength.
JRuss is completed all of his passes to Bush and DMac today. Miller is doubled, and will be from here on out. You just can’t ignore the fact that DHB, Watkins, or JLH wouldn’t play much if at all for any other teams. Like Gannon points out, the WR position is a disaster. I just don’t know how the WRs are expected to win an isolated battle running nothing but vertical routes. It just makes no sense what we are seeing out there. The WRs are NOT open.
makes perfect sense, AL is dipping his crinkle cuts in the scheme!
September 27th, 2009 at 5:34 pm
Same bad Defense, same pathetic offense every year. Things will never change until Al does the honorable thing and dies. DIRT NAP FOR AL!
September 27th, 2009 at 5:35 pm
Raiderwoj,
I’m not disagreeing with you that he’s an old fart. But in terms of the options we have at experience, why give him up??? He could have been used in so many other ways..even temporary. Now we don’t have that option.
September 27th, 2009 at 5:35 pm
The good news, JR completed over 50% of his passes.
The bad news, is his passing rating was 22.
We are going to be picking in the top 7 again…. It is getting really hard to be a Raiders fan because of all the bad decisions this organizaton makes.
September 27th, 2009 at 5:38 pm
the reason we are calling the patterns we are calling is,imo,because those are the patterns that are supposedly our QBs strengths.imo,our off. would be much better and much more productive if Russell wasn’t playing
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To a degree, we do still agree. Damn what our QBs strengths are SUPPOSED to be, play to the TEAM’s strengths. That’s why I blame Cable (or AL) for this mess. I totally agree that they are trying to run an offense that is tailored to JRuss suppossed big arm. Absolute wrong way to go about it!
The reason you think the offense would be better with a QB change is most likely the offense will change. You won’t have that vertial offense being called b/c that is not Gradkowski’s strength.
JRuss is completed all of his passes to Bush and DMac today. Miller is doubled, and will be from here on out. You just can’t ignore the fact that DHB, Watkins, or JLH wouldn’t play much if at all for any other teams. Like Gannon points out, the WR position is a disaster. I just don’t know how the WRs are expected to win an isolated battle running nothing but vertical routes. It just makes no sense what we are seeing out there. The WRs are NOT open.
September 27th, 2009 at 5:39 pm
Jhill,i saw Gradkowski and Frye complete those vertical passes in the practice games.i’ve noticed they look off the DBs.i’ve noticed they spread the ball to different rec.i am NOT seeing any of that from our current QB.do you actually believe they would be as bad or worse than what we have been seeing from Russell?it’s funny,i hear Flores,Papa,and the guys on the post game radio show saying the WRs ARE open.
September 27th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
chiliwakt Says:
September 27th, 2009 at 5:35 pm
Raiderwoj,
I’m not disagreeing with you that he’s an old fart. But in terms of the options we have at experience, why give him up??? He could have been used in so many other ways..even temporary. Now we don’t have that option.
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He’s a waste of time, money and effort. You said: “Raiderwoj, Garcia was a fighter, he put forth the effort and his safety to try to win”. Were u talking about in preseason when his calf hurt and he wasn’t around for 3 weeks? Is that the safety and effort he was putting forth. If we had a chance at going deep in playoffs and we could count on him the whole season, maybe then. But he couldn’t make it through camp at 39.
Why not give Grad or Frye a chance instead, both played better in preason, and still have years to go. What about Danny S?
September 27th, 2009 at 5:43 pm
oh i forgeot about wrs jhill u right no separation to young and dhb is useless doesnt go after the ball reacts as quick as a coma patient kinda how the d was today
September 27th, 2009 at 5:45 pm
I am glad I went fishing and missed that debacle.
We cant run the ball
We cant stop the run
We cant pass the ball
We cant stop the pass.
Pretty simple stuff to me.
The players suck
September 27th, 2009 at 5:47 pm
WORST TEAM IN NFL HISTORY. (ok, not really, that would have to be the 2008 Lions).
September 27th, 2009 at 5:47 pm
I don’t know why we don’t try to run some screen plays where DHB can get the ball without having to run a real route, and can actually use his speed to get yardage.
September 27th, 2009 at 5:47 pm
Ricohet is correct I just added it up play by play (pass plays) for the 2nd half;
5 incompletes
3 completed passes ( a 5 yard to Mr. Z, a -4 yards to Mr. Fargas and one for zero yards to Justin);
for a passing net of one yard in the second half;
correct that a net of negative 14 yards passing in the second half as we were sacked for minus 15 yards.
I can see why Mr. Gradkowski was looking over Jamarcus’ shoulder while on the bench, err just looking at the game photos.
September 27th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
1st int was a combination of faults, Jamarcus to high, DHB being outmuscled by the DB maybe even over cutting his route, a possible interference call, incendental contact, tripping over own two feet, etc, etc;
2nd int, DHB was wide open and Jamarcus clearly over htrew him right into the DBs number on his jersey.
September 27th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
During the past six seasons there has only been one contstant (besides bad football)and that is Al Davis. It is clear that he is the root of all the problems in this organization. From front office/coaching turmoil, questionable at best draft choices/trades, he has run this organization into the ground. Sadly, he refuses to admit any mistake and we are doomed to continue this vicious losing cycle as long as he calls the shots.
September 27th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
No Jhill they are backing up the real bonehead….the 30 million dollar bonehead….if it wasn’t for his paycheck he’d already be pulling splinters out of his fat ass.
September 27th, 2009 at 5:50 pm
But I dont let it get to me because I learned my lesson in the 90’s.
We never run the ball as much as we should. We have always had the QB’s air it out.
That wont change. The only way we win again is if our atheletes beat theirs one on one and right now our atheletes are not as good as their atheletes. We saw a glimpse of what Al wants on Monday night.
September 27th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
wow the stats are worse than last week except for time of possesion and total yards passing 61 yards favre got almost that on the last play of the game leading reciever murphy again an awe inspiring 25 yards if r d plays bad like they did tday we wont win another game all year
September 27th, 2009 at 5:52 pm
Lefty,
The stat sheet say that JRuss targeted Murphy 5 times, Miller 5 times, Bush 4 times, DHB 3 times, DMc 2 times, Lawton once, and Fargas twice.
He spreads the ball around.
Gradkowsli and Frye were playing against 3rd string guys man, Cmon! I see Gradkowski or Frye completing more balls, sure! Without question. But they will certainly have the boneheaded turnovers that they have in their NFL pasts that have them at the point where they are backing up a QB that we can all see is no #1 overall pick.
September 27th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
Oh..got it.
Stay with the 22 qb rating guy?
The guy who can’t COMPLETE any passes, but doesn’t throw..a WHOLE BUNCH of interceptions?
Oh..right. Goal isn’t to win, to move the chains, it’s to put the ball where NO ONE, ON OFFENSE OR DEFENSE..can get it.
Well then, JaBlubberButt is your man.
Way to stay the course, Jhill.
And yes, spineless gumby is, for some, a course.
Two semesters, last I heard.
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jhill Says:
September 27th, 2009 at 5:52 pm
Lefty,
The stat sheet say that JRuss targeted Murphy 5 times, Miller 5 times, Bush 4 times, DHB 3 times, DMc 2 times, Lawton once, and Fargas twice.
He spreads the ball around.
Gradkowsli and Frye were playing against 3rd string guys man, Cmon! I see Gradkowski or Frye completing more balls, sure! Without question. But they will certainly have the boneheaded turnovers that they have in their NFL pasts that have them at the point where they are backing up a QB that we can all see is no #1 overall pick.
September 27th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
I agree Earl …
But that doesn’t make Frye or Gradokowski any better. Let’s not forget that they are ESTABLIHED busts in the NFL. They will not be any better.
I hate to say it, but you know it when you see it and this offense AND this defense is not it. Yeah, we are going to win a few games here and there, and some of these youngsters are going to show some flashes, but I know the bed and breakfast offense and that 70’s defense when I see it. And it ain’t gonna work!
September 27th, 2009 at 5:57 pm
Charlie Says:
September 27th, 2009 at 6:00 pm
Anyone who thinks this situation is a crisis was not realistic about this team from the beginning.
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Bingo!
And they are not being realistic now. I think the consensus was 7 wins and a lot of hope that the Chargers would suck, lol! Some of you are acting like this team is a QB away from being a playoff team, LOL!
September 27th, 2009 at 5:57 pm
everyone is bashing dhb real hard, but hes been open several times in the 1st three games and JR just missed him. Hes a rook so he is going to make mistakes, but its not completely his fault he has 1 catch. can we throw him a screen or something?
September 27th, 2009 at 5:58 pm
WELL SAID SNB OFFENSE THE ONLY THING I DISAGREE IS ON HOW TO USE DMCFUMBLE IM THINKING MORE OF A KEVIN FAULK ROLE
September 27th, 2009 at 5:58 pm
JB Says:
September 27th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
JaBeefRoll should man up, call a press conference and publicly apologize to his teammates, the coaching staff, the ownership and most of all the fans for his totally inadequate play. Short of that, he ought to just retire and go home down South and let us get on with life.
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I have been trying to wait for J “porkchop” to develope believing he would. Not anymore, I think we can all say he is a bust. We the Raider Nation need to move forward. I don’t want to see J lopapuss any more. This is very depressing.
September 27th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
Here’s the problems in the order that I see them:
1. The playcalling on both sides is atrocious. Why are we always trying to beat the opponent deep? Two deep throws on 1st two drives. The one drive with any traction was a mix of runs and short throws! Defense looks JUST LIKE LAST YEAR! Why is Morrison covering the MArshall? Always rushing 4! Tom Cable really needs to give it up to Tollner. Davis needs to stop meddling!!!!!!!!!!!!
2. Passing game: The QB still struggles. Decision making is bad, throws into double coverage deep. Wide receivers are no help.
3. Darren McFadden is a BUST! Start Michael Bush effective immediately! Have Justin Fargas spell Bush and let McFadden play a Ronnie Harmon type roll. I’ve seen enough of DMAC. He makes no plays…and fumbles….BUST!
4. WHen Schillens gets back…DHB goes to the BENCH! JLH should be the #3 Murphy #2 and Schilens #1. I don’t care if Schilens is only 80%
5 Al Davis! His finger prints are all over the game plan. Vertical, Vertical, Vertical….I don’t think any QB will be successfull in an offense run by Al Davis.
With all that said. I HOPE that the team sees itself as it is right now. The defense can’t go out with the same vanilla rush 4….Russell has read defenses….Cable has to call shorter plays and stop trying to re-enact 1970 football and Darren McFadden needs to put his overhyped backside on the BENCH!
September 27th, 2009 at 6:00 pm
WELL SAID SNB OFFENSE THE ONLY THING I DISAGREE IS ON HOW TO USE DMCFUMBLE
September 27th, 2009 at 6:00 pm
Anyone who thinks this situation is a crisis was not realistic about this team from the beginning.
We have focused on skill spots for the last three years in the draft and we will address the line issues in our next draft.
Warren, Green and Carlisle are back ups. Kelly is a marginal starter.
Think the Titans miss Haynesworth?
JR, DHB, DMAC are all going to get better, They will just improve at a slower pace because we do not control the line of scrimmage.
September 27th, 2009 at 6:01 pm
The Raiders in a nut shell.
1) Al Davis will always run the team both good and bad.
2) Offensive cordinator changes every 6 months.
3) Head coach changes every 6 months.
4) We play to simple on offense and Defense.
5) Young players will never develope with such simplisity and constant change.
Things we need to change…..
1) Get a GM.
2) Get an offensive cordinator not a “passing game” cordinator.
3) Get Al Davis to go away from 100% deep ball.
4) Get Al Davis to get away from 100% man to man.
5) Draft footbal players not the biggest tallest fastest.
September 27th, 2009 at 6:02 pm
Playing Gradkowski and Frye is a waste of time.
They can’t win anywhere.
You are better off plowing through with Russell and making a decision at the end of the year.
Its a tough spot we are in. The 1st round pick is waaaaaaay behind schedule. The coaching is horrible on both sides of the ball. And the owner insists on a particular scheme.
I would rather go 1-15 with Russell and have an answer to that situation….then waste time going 3-13 with Frye or Gradkowski
September 27th, 2009 at 6:03 pm
P.S. I forgot!!!
FIRE JOHN HERERRA………
September 27th, 2009 at 6:04 pm
Can someone please remind me why Jeff Garcia is not starting right now???…???…??? or thats right.
Al Davis
September 27th, 2009 at 6:05 pm
The only time I saw our LB’s today was when they were celebrating making a tackle on a 7 yard gain.
Pathetic
September 27th, 2009 at 6:05 pm
As bad as it is…and its BAD! I will make a final judgement next week when Schilens returns and DHB AND DMAC go to the bench.
Its not looking good Raider fans. Looks a lot like 2006
September 27th, 2009 at 6:05 pm
Bring in Mike Vick and Tony Dungy!
September 27th, 2009 at 6:06 pm
Someone needs to make a lot of money on silver and black T-shirts that say.
FIRE JOHN HERERRA.
September 27th, 2009 at 6:06 pm
Dirt Nap for Al!
September 27th, 2009 at 6:06 pm
Unless something drastic happens, our season is over. And something drastic means that somebody’s feelings are gonna have to get hurt.
September 27th, 2009 at 6:07 pm
Charlie,
You are right. Tommy Kelly, Gerard Warren, Kirk Morrison, Ricky Brown, Cornelius Green, Coop Carlisle and whoever plays Center are all backup players.
Russell is a raw player who is borderline deserving to be on a roster right now.
DHB is garbage
DMAC is garbage
They better get their collective heads out of their backsides.
Next week is for the season!
September 27th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
you’re wrong about Frye…..the only things Russell has over him is a stronger arm and a bigger paycheck….Frye has won in this league and is a much better decision maker.Frye could move the chains more effectively.
September 27th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
jhill Says:
September 27th, 2009 at 6:05 pm
Bring in Mike Vick and Tony Dungy!
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I told my brother that an hour ago. I said that if Russell continues on his one-way ticket to bustville…..bring in Michael Vick because a QB with athleticism and improvisation is the only QB that could possible win with this antique offense we run here!
Dungy WOULD NEVER coach for Al Davis!
September 27th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
we do not control the line of scrimmage because teams now put up 8-9 man fronts against us, they are forcing our 22 point passer rating qb to beat us,
teams know our only offensive weapon is to run thew football, and now they know they just have to blow a kiss to darren and he goes down.
our 5 lineman cannot block 7-9 defensive players, teams are now even doubling our TE, which gives them one extra defender against the run, when he it is a run play.
September 27th, 2009 at 6:09 pm
Crude Earl Says:
September 27th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
you’re wrong about Frye…..the only things Russell has over him is a stronger arm and a bigger paycheck….Frye has won in this league and is a much better decision maker.Frye could move the chains more effectively.
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I bet you can’t find one person in Cleveland who would agree with you.
Frye and Gradkowski are right there on the bust train just like JRuss. JRuss just has more $.
September 27th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
Crude Earl Says:
September 27th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
you’re wrong about Frye…..the only things Russell has over him is a stronger arm and a bigger paycheck….Frye has won in this league and is a much better decision maker.Frye could move the chains more effectively.
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Stop deluding yourself. We are in a bind with Russell right now…I now acknowledge that.
But playing a guy that was cut from two teams and couldn’t even make the 3rd string on his last team IS NOT THE ANSWER!
September 27th, 2009 at 6:11 pm
DHB IS A LOUSY ROUTE RUNNER I WAS A D3 QB IN THE EARLY 90S IF 1 OF MYGUYS CAME BACK IN THE HUDDLE AFTER SOME OF THE ROUTES IS SEEN DHB RUN I WOULD HAVE SMACKED THEM AND THEY HAD NO WHERE NEAR THE GIFTS AND ATHLETISM DHB HAS
September 27th, 2009 at 6:11 pm
PLAY ALL THE YOUNGSTER’S,SEE WHO CAN PLAY AND WHO CAN NOT, WHO WANT’S TO PLAY AND WHO DOES NOT,GO FROM THERE. NO MATTER WHAT THE SALARY,IT IS BEYOND STUPID TO LET A PLAYER HURT A TAEM ON THE FIELD, AND CAP WISE..
September 27th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
I was born in Oakland in 1964 and grew up in the east bay area, mostly Pleasanton and Livermore. I was 12 and already a Raider fan when they won their first Superbowl, a Jr in High School when they won their second and was 19 when they won their 3rd.
I could be nothing else BUT a Raiders fan. I probably go over board and am one of those guys, on Sundays, who watches the game in all Raider gear, hat, shirt, jersey, sweatpants and boxers. I love the Raiders.
I am also of the belief that a fan is a fan, through thick and thin. I am also an A’s fan and we have also had our ups and downs but as a fan, switching teams is not an option. You stick with your team NO MATTER WHAT.
Well, it is a lot easier as an A’s fan because I love the A’s but it just does’t hurt nearly as much when they lose. it hurts, but it doesn’t devestate. I have called in sick after a raiders loss, it actually hurts.
So, now that I have given you way too much information.
I just don’t know what to do anymore. I didn’t feel this bad about our team during the Shell year.
I drink the koolaid every year. I am filled with enthusiasm and hope. I honestly believe, every year, that things are about to get better. Then every game, even after losses, I believe that we will bounce back next week. Heck, after the chiefs game last week, we looked horrible, but I still believed we were going to STOMP the burros behinds today.
Well, I will never be anything but a Raider fan, I will never switch teams, it is just not an option. But this is the closest I have felt to giving up. I mean, we have some really nice talent on the team but I think I just will not believe that things will get better until I see a season where we go at least 9-7. Until then, I think I will just assume that we will continue to be the joke of the league.
I am sorry, I just don’t know what else to say. We suck
September 27th, 2009 at 6:14 pm
DHB has to go to the bench. I am tired of him not making plays.
Put JLH or Walker in. At least its someone familiar and someone who can run more than just a 9-route
September 27th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
I would seriously try to trade Darren McFadden. He isn’t even that explosive.
Michael Bush is the best player on offense right now. Give him the rock 25+ times and call it the day!
September 27th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
D-Mac can hit an open hole, just like any back in the NFL. Than he gets blasted by the next line of defense and fumbles.
D-Mac = dime a dozen NFL back
September 27th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
Judge. I respect you and your opinion. It is coming straight from the heart. I think that all of us that truly bleed silver and black feel the same way. We will never turn on our team and root for someone else, but at the same time it hurts beyond belief.
I think we all realize that something DRASTIC is gonna have to happen to turn our team around.
September 27th, 2009 at 6:16 pm
I guess we can all come back down to reality now. Another big home game disappointment. The defense still sucks, and the passing games still sucks.
September 27th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
I’m not deluded at all….he was traded by cleveland to Seattle not cut….you just don’t want to get punked out of that money you wasted on Russell’s worthless jersey
September 27th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
DHB and DMAC are garbage.
Russell has 1-week with Schilens next week before he joins them.
Cable is a fool. All he calls are deep routes and he lacks total creativity. Give the playcalling to Tollner. I am tired of his rah-rah already!
This team was not prepared to use the restroom let alone play an NFL football game. I am SO SICK AND TIRED OF THIS SH*** ITS THE SAME CRAP YEAR AFTER YEAR BECAUSE WE STUBBORNLY STICK TO THIS DOMINATE YOUR MAN B.S
Russell has 1 week. I will give him a chance with Schilens. if its another debacle…then I QUIT AND I WILL FIND SOMETHING ELSE TO DO.
September 27th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
Every D cordinator will suck that comes to this organization. They are a puppet.
September 27th, 2009 at 6:19 pm
Disagree SnB,
Don’t trade DMac, just accept him for the “Reggie Bush” bust that he is. Just make Bush the primary back and get your gadget plays together for DMac. Screens, swing passes, slants out of the slot, and 5-10 carries per game.
September 27th, 2009 at 6:19 pm
LOL SnB …
Awww man!
I feel you anger. I think I was over it after that first pass JRuss threw last week against KC. Like I said, you know it when you see it, and this aint it.
At least I have my the Lakers to look forward to. This Al Davis experiment will not make it to the playoffs. It is what it is.
September 27th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
Crude Earl Says:
September 27th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
I’m not deluded at all….he was traded by cleveland to Seattle not cut….you just don’t want to get punked out of that money you wasted on Russell’s worthless jersey
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You have Raderitis! its a disease where one thinks they can win with other castoffs…once a castoff always a castoff.
It doesn’t work brother! You are better off exhausting the Russell experiment this year. Frye and Gradkowsie wouldn’t even be in the league if not for the Raiders so don’t fool yourself.
If Russell busts out, which looks like is going to happen…we will have to look at JP Losman or Rex Grossman. They had some success and they are both young enough where they could still play for 8 to 10 years!
September 27th, 2009 at 6:21 pm
McFadden could be a more explosive Kevin Faulk-type player… if the playcalling was there. Run some screens to him, hit him out in the flat, split him wide, put him in the slot. Hell, he could be the kind of player that defenses have to adjust to.
The thing is, we’ve been less than creative in our uses of him. And right now we’re stuck simplifying the playbook for Russell, so I doubt we’re going to see anything any time soon.
September 27th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
jhill Says:
September 27th, 2009 at 6:19 pm
Disagree SnB,
Don’t trade DMac, just accept him for the “Reggie Bush” bust that he is. Just make Bush the primary back and get your gadget plays together for DMac. Screens, swing passes, slants out of the slot, and 5-10 carries per game.
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Bulls&&&&& JHIll! And I mean that with all due respect! This guy DMAC is not explosive at all like Reggie Bush. He is an ordinary running back being paid a premier salary.
Michael Bush can catch screens and slants out of the slot just as well as this big overpaid overhyped bust that DMAC is.
I’ve seen enough. Cut him!
September 27th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
do you ever listen to anyone else????no I thought not…you’re a blow hard know it all….quit already find something else to do
September 27th, 2009 at 6:23 pm
Boldin is looking like a beast again.
I bet JR could hit Boldin after Boldin knocks the cornerback down at the line of scrimmage.
September 27th, 2009 at 6:23 pm
Gannon was a wash out too
September 27th, 2009 at 6:24 pm
The offense is garbage.
So is the defense! It looks just like last year. Exactly the same.
John Marshall is a bust too!
September 27th, 2009 at 6:24 pm
i’ll tell you what, that rich gannon is a real prick. i can’t believe he’s spreading these lies and inaccuracies about jamarcus russell. what a jerk!! jamarcus is EASILY the best quarterback in the league and doesn’t need ANY advice. don’t change a thing!! get that bust in canton ready. he’s the real deal. rich gannon, you should be ashamed of yourself sir!!
it’s actually not poor jamarcus’ fault. it’s the man upstairs. if jruss played for ANYONE besides the raiders, he’d be a decent QB. al davis is stubborn, senile, paranoid and completely unwilling to change. the raiders will NEVER win under davis. it’s impossible to play as much man to man as they do and expect consistent results. it’s not 1976 anymore. today’s player is bigger and faster, and 31 other offensive coordinators will exploit our defense. for christ sakes, KYLE ORTON shredded our defense today. we could have 11 all-pros on defense and run big al’s scheme AND STILL get embarrassed week in and week out. it’s like a power pitcher who throws nothing but fastballs. yeah, he’ll get some outs, but not the important ones.
quit giving al davis your hard earned money!!! spend it on health insurance!!!
September 27th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
caint ya just die Al? please…..
September 27th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
Al…..caint ya just die???
September 27th, 2009 at 6:26 pm
ARe you guys listening to this B.S on KSFO.
Tell these guys to get prepared for a game for a change and stop with the doggone excuses!
September 27th, 2009 at 6:26 pm
save our Raiders – just die Al….
September 27th, 2009 at 6:26 pm
Schemes will always be part of the game. Sometimes you will be out guessed and sometimes you will out guess the opponent.
The guessing usually evens out.
We have changed out the coaches more than any team in the league over the last six years.
Different coaches with the same results mean our players are not good enough.
Teams that control the line of scrimmage execute better and win games. Why? Because they create time and space for the offense and they destroy time and space on defense.
Guys like Warren, Carlisle, Green and Pears are castoffs and backups.
Improve the line play and the wins will follow.
September 27th, 2009 at 6:26 pm
Crude Earl Says:
September 27th, 2009 at 6:23 pm
Gannon was a wash out too
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He was!
September 27th, 2009 at 6:29 pm
jhill Says:
September 27th, 2009 at 6:19 pm
LOL SnB …
Awww man!
I feel you anger. I think I was over it after that first pass JRuss threw last week against KC. Like I said, you know it when you see it, and this aint it.
At least I have my the Lakers to look forward to. This Al Davis experiment will not make it to the playoffs. It is what it is.
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Yeah, I feel ya. I know what I see to and its garbage.
Of course, when you have as many 1st round busts/ordinary players….you gotta blame the coaching/OWNER.
How can so many top picks be this bad?
September 27th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
Has anyone ever seen any emotion come from JaBeefRoll yet? He acts as though he’s just going through the motions. That speaks volumes to JR’s problems. He doesn’t perceive he has any problems. And, maybe he doesn’t. From where he’s sitting the world looks pretty good and as long as he doesn’t care what others think. Life’s great and all is well.
So, if you are upset, that’s yours and my problem. JaBeefRoll could give a schit. His growth and level of play has validated this theory.
September 27th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
WE SUCK AGAIN!
September 27th, 2009 at 6:32 pm
YoungAmerican Says:
September 27th, 2009 at 6:21 pm
McFadden could be a more explosive Kevin Faulk-type player… if the playcalling was there. Run some screens to him, hit him out in the flat, split him wide, put him in the slot. Hell, he could be the kind of player that defenses have to adjust to.
The thing is, we’ve been less than creative in our uses of him. And right now we’re stuck simplifying the playbook for Russell, so I doubt we’re going to see anything any time soon.
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Even when DMAC gets a screen…he can never turn his shoulders upfield and explode. Bush does a better job IMHO.
I don’t know about DMAC….Maybe my vision is blurred with red right now because I had to watch this debacle with a broncos fan.
Chris Johnson does not look like DMAC! Nor does Forte or even Reggie Bush. Just like Johnny Knox does not look like DHB!
Schilens gets back next week. That man is the only hope!
September 27th, 2009 at 6:34 pm
MTraidernation,
I hear ya!
Let’s see what happens with Schilens gets back.
And tell Russell to GET COMFORTABLE with the receivers he’s got.
And tell Cable to stop calling these freekn deep routes all the time!
And play Javon Walker….DHB needs to sit!
September 27th, 2009 at 6:35 pm
tyrannosaurus Al…..caint ya just die ?? and save our Raiders??
September 27th, 2009 at 6:36 pm
i hate when guys say kill al davis. are you a demon or sumtin ? anyway. im so thru believin in that qb. j .russ. 2 ay i have officially given up on dude. WHY DO SO MANY BLACK Q.BS JUST WANNA FUKK HOES & BUY JEWELRY AND PIT BULLS? why dnt they care bout football. please god!! give me a white boy.. any white boy …
September 27th, 2009 at 6:36 pm
This is a question for any of you that actually watch and analize the games…
Can someone tell me with Seymour and Ellis on the line WHY WE STILL CAN’T STOP THE RUN???
I am seriously befuddled. It seems like even if we switched uniforms with the Steelers we STILL COULDN’T STOP THE RUN.
Thoughts please???
September 27th, 2009 at 6:38 pm
this is my 1st post. i agree with you all about jruss dmac and dhb. they suck. right now. go look at peyton mannings #’s in his 1st19 starts. troy aikman was 0-15 his rookie year. steve walsh won only game. when russel gets rid of the ball quickly, his accuracy is a lot better. lets be patient raider nation, because with our tough schedule, they really should not be expected to win more than 6 games. I ENJOY READING ALL UR POSTS.
September 27th, 2009 at 6:38 pm
JR would be holding a clipboard for any other team. Remember we all thought Andrew was the bomb.
Our players just suck. I bet money Cable has tried to open up the playbook and these guys cannot exucute anything.
September 27th, 2009 at 6:40 pm
tyrannosaurus Al is not the owner of the Raiders – he’s “majority” owner: wake up minority owners, turn him out. freddy kruger in drag….oozing sores all over his face….
time to go Al – go make a horror film, starring you – time to die….hire John Gruden as coach, Rich Gannon as GM, fire everyone else…..
caint ya just die Al??
September 27th, 2009 at 6:40 pm
and of course no emotion, but dat may be a good thing, u need yur q.b. to have a steel heart. at least one good thing bout russel he doesnt get ove hyped. but . man i wish he knew how to read a defense downfield. and d.mcfadden is still great. i just want u to understand that when defenses have no respect 4 yur passin. very hard to run. take cedric benson 4 example. people thought he was over. he can run know cus when u think of the bengals u think of passing .
September 27th, 2009 at 6:40 pm
JB,
If Russell was in another franchise. I think he would be okay. The Raiders haven’t developed their own QB in over 30yrs. There is a reason why?
September 27th, 2009 at 6:41 pm
Again, please tell me why we can’t stop the run?
September 27th, 2009 at 6:41 pm
Next possible win is Chiefs at home.
September 27th, 2009 at 6:42 pm
Y can’t we stop the run..?
September 27th, 2009 at 6:42 pm
Look AT AZ
SEconds away from the SB win and they cannot run the ball if they had to. Same with the Colts for the most part of several years. Cards have 10 yards rushing.
September 27th, 2009 at 6:42 pm
doriangray Says:
September 27th, 2009 at 6:36 pm
i hate when guys say kill al davis. are you a demon or sumtin ? anyway. im so thru believin in that qb. j .russ. 2 ay i have officially given up on dude. WHY DO SO MANY BLACK Q.BS JUST WANNA FUKK HOES & BUY JEWELRY AND PIT BULLS? why dnt they care bout football. please god!! give me a white boy.. any white boy …
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Wow, winner of the funniest post to night so far…LOL
September 27th, 2009 at 6:43 pm
If I say Al Davis sucks first will a football guy tell me y we can’t stop run?
September 27th, 2009 at 6:43 pm
Chris Johnson on KSFO saying the players have told the coaches about trying different looks and blitzing. The opponents have adjusted to the Raider man single-house safety.
Al Davis needs to step aside and let Marshall do his job or Marshall needs to be fired!
September 27th, 2009 at 6:43 pm
I need to get off this blog or die from laughter…..
September 27th, 2009 at 6:44 pm
Bad day, but not a complete surprise.
Raiders gameplan from the beginning of the year was to…
1. Run the ball – A lot harder to do with Gallery out, plus Denver’s D has been playing great.
2. Don’t turn the ball over – Raiders stayed in the 1st 2 games because they won the TO battle. They lost today and it showed on the scoreboard.
3. Don’t fall too far behind – This team is not built to play catch-up.
They failed at all 3 phases of the game today.
September 27th, 2009 at 6:47 pm
I will be in Houston next week to watch the crap for myself next week. Hope they play better than today.
September 27th, 2009 at 6:47 pm
hopefully chaz makes a difference next game. and jlh needs some reps. and thomas howard not getting the credit he deserves. morrison sux tho
September 27th, 2009 at 6:47 pm
oh yeah…
Russell sucks
September 27th, 2009 at 6:47 pm
Paul Hackett is good enough for Joe Montana and Rich Ganon but not JaPorkus Russell???
September 27th, 2009 at 6:50 pm
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 27th, 2009 at 6:40 pm
JB,
If Russell was in another franchise. I think he would be okay. The Raiders haven’t developed their own QB in over 30yrs. There is a reason why?
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I’ll buy that. Then why did we pick JR instead of A Petersen – a real quality RB? Why pick DMac when we needed quality linemen on both sides of the ball? Why Bey when we could have had a premier LT? Are we seeing a trend here? Looks like a lot of poor choices being made here and we all know by whom. The thing that is most disappointing to me is that there have been a number of rookie QB’s who’ve come out and are playing fairly well right now. We could have had any one of them based on our past draft positions.
I’m ready to label JaBeefRoll a BUST and to move on in search of another leader. JR is NOT a leader and no matter what he does, he will never be a leader. It’s just not in his character.
September 27th, 2009 at 6:52 pm
Chris Johnson on KSFO interview is very enlightening.
Gotta change up the defensive looks. Its 2009 not 1979
September 27th, 2009 at 6:52 pm
new englandraider Says:
September 27th, 2009 at 6:47 pm
hopefully chaz makes a difference next game. and jlh needs some reps. and thomas howard not getting the credit he deserves. morrison sux tho
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Chaz IS OUR ONLY HOPE!
September 27th, 2009 at 6:53 pm
I’m surprised that crowd in Oakland didn’t throw batteries at Russell
September 27th, 2009 at 6:53 pm
whew,. got dat off my chest. u know wuts funny? houston texans so up & down. they could lose to oakland. like 17 -14 . things have got to change. we really should trade for derek anderson from the browns. give em a 3rd rounder and hell somebody. cut javon walker now. he is useless. i wonder if we cut j russ can he clean up around the stadium ? ??
September 27th, 2009 at 6:54 pm
its hard for either rb to get into a rhythm. a carry here, a carry there. bad play calling bad execution. i feelin the dude who said kobe and co. will cheer him up. go lakers.
September 27th, 2009 at 6:55 pm
I believe that the Raiders ARE NOT CAPABLE of developing young talent. Especially at the QB.
Better start watching film on Rex Grossman and JP Losman….Sigh
September 27th, 2009 at 6:56 pm
Crude Earl Says:
September 27th, 2009 at 6:47 pm
Paul Hackett is good enough for Joe Montana and Rich Ganon but not JaPorkus Russell???
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Too bad he wasn’t here to begin with. Wasted time with Kiffin and DeFilipo
September 27th, 2009 at 6:56 pm
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 27th, 2009 at 6:52 pm
Chris Johnson on KSFO interview is very enlightening.
Gotta change up the defensive looks. Its 2009 not 1979
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lol. They can’t even execute the 1979 defense. Can you see these idiots trying to run a modern defense?
Still the dumbest team in America.
September 27th, 2009 at 6:57 pm
The raiders are who we thought they were.
September 27th, 2009 at 6:57 pm
We stopped the run at the beginning of the game, but our offense is so bad that after a while the defense gets worn out. Russell and McFumble have to go.
September 27th, 2009 at 6:58 pm
How the hell did we manage to play so well against the discharge?
September 27th, 2009 at 6:58 pm
Did you see how the broncos challenged the raiders rifht from the start, making them receive the kickoff?
Its because they knew that they would make a statement making Rusell go 3 and out.
From that point on broncos blasted the Al Davis raiders.
September 27th, 2009 at 6:58 pm
I wonder if Manning could make DHB look that good. Or, I wonder if Garcon could make Russell look a little better?
September 27th, 2009 at 7:00 pm
DMac has yet to prove anything. At this point he is still a nobody. But since Al Davis calls him a great raider player, then he has nothing to prove, because he is already great in Al Davis scholarship.
September 27th, 2009 at 7:00 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 27th, 2009 at 6:32 pm
Even when DMAC gets a screen…he can never turn his shoulders upfield and explode. Bush does a better job IMHO.
I don’t know about DMAC….Maybe my vision is blurred with red right now because I had to watch this debacle with a broncos fan.
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Believe me, I’m not completely sold on DMac either, if only because of where he was drafted. But he definitely has some ability. Kevin Faulk isn’t a tenth as physically gifted as DMac, but for the past decade has been an invaluable contributor for the Patriots. If the Raiders can get McFadden to muster even an ounce of his potential, he can still help this offense.
September 27th, 2009 at 7:01 pm
jhill Says:
September 27th, 2009 at 6:58 pm
I wonder if Manning could make DHB look that good. Or, I wonder if Garcon could make Russell look a little better?
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I don’t know JHill. I can’t tell you how disappointed I am about this game.
WHAT THE HELL DO THESE GUYS DO IN PRACTICE…PRESEASON?
September 27th, 2009 at 7:01 pm
What really makes me mad is these guys gave me the illusion of hope. I actually thought as Al said, “We have a chance.”
Today was a much clearer picture of this team than week one or two.
September 27th, 2009 at 7:01 pm
We never stopped the run in this game. Let us not forget that Denver had the ball on the 1 yd line on that goal line stand. They ran the ball all game.
September 27th, 2009 at 7:04 pm
oh. i just wanted to ask was i the only raider fan hopin j russ would get hurt when he scrambled at the end of the game. ? hell i bet even he hoped he would . u see he didnt slide? any other team /qb/ guy gets pulled out. u gotta spark the offense. LET 1 DEM PUNY WHITE BOYS PLAY.
September 27th, 2009 at 7:04 pm
i can’t believe i’m about to say this…
the only thing we as raider fans can look foward to now? the draft.
this REALLY sucks. speaking of the draft…
please, please, please draft an OT!!! mario is actually not too bad, but i bet he’d be better on the right side. it became clear today just how good gallery is.
the 2010 draft should be dedicated SOLELY to both lines. i’m serious, we should draft nothing but offensive and defensive lineman. no more DBs, WRs!!! if we can’t run OR stop the run, a 4.2 40 yard dash doesn’t matter!!
sign seymore long term and get bush 20 carries a game. Bush is our best player!!
September 27th, 2009 at 7:04 pm
I’m also listening 570….
This George Akison better shut his big, stumbling month. One bad game….what do you call the past six years!
September 27th, 2009 at 7:05 pm
Jhill I think a Boldin would make a big diff for JR. He really needs someone to step and make big plays (catch errant passes with impossible dives and jumps) and get YAC.
Manning would make DHB and Murphy and Yvonne stay late, arrive early and work hard. He is a born leader.
I bet none of our current WR’s could make the Colts team.
September 27th, 2009 at 7:08 pm
Chris Johnson is dissing the playcalling. Tell Al to let Marshall call a modern NFL game!
September 27th, 2009 at 7:09 pm
Read thru some of your comments. Jhill is right. If you guys are expecting Gradkowski or Frye to win you games ….its just not going to happen.
The Raiders are tied at the hip to Russell and all you all can do is hope he turns it around. But I’m afraid his confidence is being severely shot right about now. The early evidence is suggesting that starting rookie WRs probably wasn’t a good idea for the development of Russell. I don’t think he has any confidence in these guys. Late in the game he looked hesitant to even throw it to them.
I’m not so sure it can be fixed; but I can hope that it does get fixed or its going to be a very long season.
September 27th, 2009 at 7:10 pm
jhill Says:
September 27th, 2009 at 7:01 pm
We never stopped the run in this game. Let us not forget that Denver had the ball on the 1 yd line on that goal line stand. They ran the ball all game.
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Very troubling JHILL….It’s like we surprised some folks the 1st couple of games and then opponents watched film.
The defense got steamrolled in this game and couldnt stop anything. Long time consuming drives to boot.
Again, Al DAvis has to loosen up the reigns here. We all know what’s going on?
September 27th, 2009 at 7:13 pm
Plunketthead Says:
September 27th, 2009 at 6:58 pm
How the hell did we manage to play so well against the discharge?
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The opponent does watch film. Denver put together an excellent game plan. Matchup WRs on LBs over the middle….run the ball right at the Oakland line and away from Seymour…the LBs did nothing today. Neither did the D-Line.
They looked just like last year with Rob Ryan!!!!!!
September 27th, 2009 at 7:14 pm
AN O TACKLE? AARE U SERIOUS? OUR O LINE IS PLAYIN WELL.. we need to focus on gettin a great safety and reciever. not o line. dont start this mock draft bull. oh and a decent white dude quarterback .
September 27th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
MTraidernation,
I agree with you. Michael Bush should be getting 25 carries and 5 catches. Let DMAC and Fargas fight for the rest.
As for the draft….they need a DT and RT in rounds 1 and 2….that is clear right now!
September 27th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
what was up with napoleon harris? we signed him, and cut him a week later. was he injured? he was a pretty good mlb b4 moss trade
September 27th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
I also think our players will get better. I would not be suprised if Al’s next step is to go after Cowher or maybe Holmgren.
If he and Holmgren are good buddies Al may be ready to turn things over. First and foremost Al will do anything to win.
September 27th, 2009 at 7:17 pm
As usual though, a lot of over-simplification here.
Those INTs were not necessarily JRs fault nor DHB running poor routes. On the 1st, DHB was tripped up on what was actually a well thrown ball. The underneath guy was beat. The safety over the top cut/ran into DHBs route. Usually that’s a pass interference in favor of the offense – not saying that I agree with those calls but still. NO CALL. (I sincerely doubt if Oakland was on defense that would’ve been a no call).
The 2nd INT, DHB got picked as he was coming out of his break. JR was already letting the ball go. That was a clear pass interference. NO CALL. INT.
Both of these plays together Denver got 10pts up on us.
Its unfortunate that that sht happened and may have done more physiological damage to JR than anything.
September 27th, 2009 at 7:17 pm
why in the hell would Cowher or Holmgren want to coach this mess of a team and franchise?
September 27th, 2009 at 7:17 pm
Odds on Cable making excuses for and defending Russell?
September 27th, 2009 at 7:18 pm
Plunketthead,
There is no way Holmgren or Cowher would coach the Raiders. No way. Too much input.
Tom Cable is the best shot for the Raiders because he is the only one who is willing to work with Al Davis and accept his “input”
September 27th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
Of course the ultimate scorn or joy will always be directed at Big Al,as should be because…
Some in here astound me with all the vitriol.Dont they understand that Al Davis and the Oakland Raiders Organization are one and the same.
In the recent fiasco with Gannon some are saying Al is a hypocrite by saying Gannon is being “dis-loyal” after the org gave him a chance 2 become what was always there,a fierce crazed competitor but he been around a long time.Anyway,4 Big Al’s comment about said disloyalty now some are saying Big Al is a hypocrite because they say he was dis-loyal 2 Wayne Valley.There could be NOTHING further from the truth…
I’m totally with Brien on this one…If the suckass aint rockin it right TAKE IT.Valley wore the Oakland Raiders Org. on his pinkie-finger,like a pinkie-ring,some sort of bling 2 show off 2 the world how incredibly bright fate has shone down on him.Sure he earned it ,but in another field other than foot-ball.
Well Al Davis was and still is an X’s and O’s guy.Al Davis knew that 2 make da Raiders everything he thought they could be,he had 2 take it.It’s not the statement Big Al was dis-loyal 2 Valley,BigAl’s loyalty was 2 The Oakland Raiders Org.If you were standing in the way no matter who you were,you were gonna get moved out of the way.Big Al knew he had to eat it,breath it,live it and BECOME ONE with da Raiders and Valley wasnt up 2 it.Big Al was NEVER dis-loyal 2 Valley,he had 1 loyalty and dat was da Raiders.The ends justify the means in this one.Al Davis saw what he had 2do and BY GAWD HE DID IT.And guess what??? the 50 years da Raiders been playing,about 40 of those years we always had a chance.40 years out of 50 years…I will take that EVERY time.Would’ve won more but the in-accurate rec….the tuck and countless other BS.The people who say Big Al is a hypocrite have no understanding the colossal undertaking Al took on.
Al Davis was NEVER dis-loyal 2 Valley.Al Davis did the world a favor just by his vision.Anybody that cant see forest through the trees says Big Al is this and that whenin actuality Al Davis and da Oakland Raiders ORG.is one and the same…dis-Al,dis-da Raiders.They’re not joined at the hip,they’re joined at the life.AND all this time AL Davis was and still is right.40 years outta 50 years SAYS SO
September 27th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
Raider75 Says:
September 27th, 2009 at 7:17 pm
Odds on Cable making excuses for and defending Russell?
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Every team that drafted a QB recently has had success except two.
Raiders and Browns….I would blame the organizations before the player.
September 27th, 2009 at 7:20 pm
If Javon Walker can’t crack this line-up at this point…he’s never going to.
Russell is out of shape and not doing off-season homework…not a professional and definitely not a winner.
Bush should be the full-time back with McFadden as the change-up…DMAC is not capable of going between the tackles.
Heyward-Bey…please report to the football stadium
Ladies and Gentlemen….your #1, #4, and #7 overall picks.
Ladies and Gentlemen…your #1
September 27th, 2009 at 7:20 pm
doriangray Says:
September 27th, 2009 at 7:14 pm
AN O TACKLE? AARE U SERIOUS? OUR O LINE IS PLAYIN WELL.. we need to focus on gettin a great safety and reciever. not o line. dont start this mock draft bull. oh and a decent white dude quarterback .
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Your crazy! ANOTHER SKILL POSITION PLAYER? Are you Al Davis’ advisor? No way in hell should this team THINK about drafting another skill position player.
They need a stud DT, RT, RG and LB (MLB or SLB) period!
September 27th, 2009 at 7:22 pm
Stopping the run starts at DT.
Think the Titans miss Haynseworth?
Seymour moving around helps and Bryant is an upgrade over Sands but we still have Kelly and Warren.
Warren is a back up at best and Kelly is average.
Warren will be gone next year and Kelly will renegotiate or we will cut him.
September 27th, 2009 at 7:23 pm
JaMarcus sucks I hope they bench him I am a diehard raider fan but this guys a joke can’t even throw the ball to his own receiver’s Al Davis should toss this guy in the bay to sleep with the fish
September 27th, 2009 at 7:23 pm
vs. San Diego Chargers L 24-20
@ Kansas City Chiefs W 13-10
vs. Denver Broncos L 23-3
@ Houston Texans L
@ New York Giants L
vs. Philadelphia Eagles L
vs. New York Jets L
@ San Diego Chargers L
vs. Kansas City Chiefs W?
vs. Cincinnati Bengals L
@ Dallas Cowboys L
@ Pittsburgh Steelers L
vs. Washington Redskins W?
@ Denver Broncos L
@ Cleveland Browns W?
vs. Baltimore Ravens L
4-12 if we win every winnable game.
September 27th, 2009 at 7:24 pm
totally serious!!! i think murphy and schielins will be a good duo, and miller could be one of the best before it’s all said and done. DHB will be gone in two years, completely worthless Al pick.
doriangray…did you play football?? i don’t know what team you’re watchin, but our oline is pretty average. that’s part of the reason jruss sucks; oline play. we have THREE guys starting for us that would be back-ups for most other teams. cornell green is awful. morris and pears are back-ups and carlisle is not even close to where he was a year ago.
great teams are made from the lines out.
September 27th, 2009 at 7:24 pm
That is why I wanted to use the high drfat picks on the lines for the last two years.
Murphy in round four and Schillens in round seven have developed more quickly than DHB.
The same can be said at the RB spot.
Without an Oline these high prciced skill guys (see JR) can not perform and their development is slowed.
Our line play is so glaringly bad that the higher percentage strategy for improvement is use our high picks on the Oline and Dline. Skill guys can be found later.
Maybe in 2010.
September 27th, 2009 at 7:25 pm
i agree, the o line is playin better than expected. jruss had time to throw the ball 2day. he refuses to pull the trigger. he holds onto the ball to long. they just need to get better. period. im tired of all the patriots fans im surrounded by.
September 27th, 2009 at 7:28 pm
Shocker that Terp is here making excuses for Russell and DHB!! Neither of those play was PI and on the first Russell threw into dub cov. But why let the facts get in the way of a good story???
September 27th, 2009 at 7:31 pm
Russell can’t read a defense…and it seems he can’t read an offensive playbook either.
September 27th, 2009 at 7:32 pm
i agree our o-line is better, but that doesn’t mean they’re good. our d-line now has bigger names, but are getting the SAME results which tells me big al is still calling the defense. plus it hurts when you have two LBs playing out of position. morrison is an outside linebacker and brown should be on special teams. in reality, we don’t have a middle LB on our roster.
we got destroyed today by a team that will probably only win 5 games.
September 27th, 2009 at 7:33 pm
Today we saw a team that drafts offensive linemen in the first round vs a team that drafts the guy with the best 40 time.
It was no contest.
September 27th, 2009 at 7:33 pm
almost 400 bucks to get sunday ticket ib hd. been purchasing for last 15 yrs. u think we should get a class action suit and try too get our $ back for at least 7 of those yrs?
September 27th, 2009 at 7:34 pm
September 27th, 2009 at 7:31 pm
Russell can’t read a defense…and it seems he can’t read an offensive playbook either.
he’s been readin the dollar menu at micky d’s
September 27th, 2009 at 7:38 pm
Folks…we have what we have. The playbook is questionable….the Qb is questionable….DMAC and DHB are awful….and the defense is the SAME AS LAST YR.
Still, watching NFL football and raider games is a good time on Sundays…..not to sound apathetic…but man…today was just PITIFUL
September 27th, 2009 at 7:38 pm
Start Gradkowski … he threw 2 passes and wow he completed 2 passes.
Those of you clowns who are making excuses for JR grow a brain.
Today Jones could not run against the Titans defense BUT Sanchez came through with some nice throws and won the game. What has JaMarcus done … he makes the whole team looks bad and I bet the defense it tried of it and they are giving up and I can’t blame them with JR at QB. What’s the point 3 and out and we’re back on the field. Seriously JR is too dumb to play QB … he has no ideal how to read a defense.
September 27th, 2009 at 7:39 pm
That’s depressing. Denver is a bad team…that’s what so depressing…they are on par with the Chiefs and Browns…
So are the Raiders until they prove otherwise!
September 27th, 2009 at 7:40 pm
no offense charlie, jr had time to throw today. he really did. he was affraid to throw it. i dont know. he holds onto the ball to long
September 27th, 2009 at 7:40 pm
KIRK…..
you nailed it brother!!! EUREKA!!!
i’d rather have 53 football players on my roster. al davis wants 53 athletes. and a puppet for defensive coordinator.
at my last count, we have 11 footballers and 42 “athletes” on our team. we’re gonna lose more than we win.
September 27th, 2009 at 7:40 pm
donald hollas. lmfao. he was the worst.
September 27th, 2009 at 7:41 pm
does it make anyone else angry we could have joe flacco, trent edwards or andrew walter throwing balls to calvin johnson?? those three guys are roughly the same QB as jruss, and we coulda had two of em!! PLUS a #1 WR in johnson.
but, big al would rather have jruss, dmac, and DHB. awful.
these are the decisions the owner is making
September 27th, 2009 at 7:41 pm
raideralex99 Says:
September 27th, 2009 at 7:38 pm
Start Gradkowski … he threw 2 passes and wow he completed 2 passes.
Those of you clowns who are making excuses for JR grow a brain.
Today Jones could not run against the Titans defense BUT Sanchez came through with some nice throws and won the game. What has JaMarcus done … he makes the whole team looks bad and I bet the defense it tried of it and they are giving up and I can’t blame them with JR at QB. What’s the point 3 and out and we’re back on the field. Seriously JR is too dumb to play QB … he has no ideal how to read a defense.
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If its to that pointof playing Gratkowski…the season is OVER! Take a look at that guys history. What makes you think watching a Sunday afternoon game with that marginal player at QB would be worthwhile.
They have to live with Russell. That’s the ONLY choice. If Russell can’t get it….the Raiders have to go sign Rex Grossman or JP Losman and hope they can reignite something with them.
Frye and Gradkowski is not worth watching at all!!!!
September 27th, 2009 at 7:43 pm
Janormus Russell is no picnic to watch either!
September 27th, 2009 at 7:43 pm
23 run attempts, 3 of them Russell, which means we called 20 running plays. Our strength is our running game, and we run the ball 20 times. Cable loves the run, pounded the rock two weeks straight. And you guys want me to believe it was his idea to put the game in Russell’s hands? Al Davis sure has left his mark this week, hasn’t he? First by unnecessarily making a mountain out of a mole hill with Gannon, then by tinkering with the game plan. Al is a cancer. A cancer, a cancer, a cancer.
September 27th, 2009 at 7:44 pm
I have seen way to many QB’s flourish after being given up on. JR is a raw talent but he has made plays in the past.
My guess is that Cable has overestimated the talent on his Oline and as a result has designed an offensive scheme that is not effective.
We will need to scale back and focus on what we did towards the end of last season.
The Oline dicates what we can and can not do on offense.
Yes the QB and the skill guys are factors but everything starts with the line.
September 27th, 2009 at 7:45 pm
SnB,
To say Denver is a bad team makes you look so stupid its almost funny. They are 3-0. They play good D. They run the ball. They have a competent QB. Are they a good team? Ehh..prob not. But a bad one? No way. Whats wrong with you?
September 27th, 2009 at 7:46 pm
SnB…
I agree with you about Russell. They have to stick with Russell this season if they have any hope of getting a return on their investment in him.
However, I believe this will be Russell’s last year as a starter for Oakland.
September 27th, 2009 at 7:46 pm
Random Drug Tester,
Yeah, Russell is not very good right now. But still, his potential is better than Frye and Gratkowski.
Part of the reason we are in this mess is glorifying marginal football players like Frye and Gradkowski.
You are not going to win with those guys either and they have no upside.
Practically speaking….you have to roll with Russell for this year..boom or BUST. Playing those other guys is like playing Vince Evans or Donald Hollas.
I am being very practical as I sober up.
September 27th, 2009 at 7:46 pm
Dude Says:
September 27th, 2009 at 7:45 pm
SnB,
To say Denver is a bad team makes you look so stupid its almost funny. They are 3-0. They play good D. They run the ball. They have a competent QB. Are they a good team? Ehh..prob not. But a bad one? No way. Whats wrong with you?
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Fine Dude. You win!
September 27th, 2009 at 7:48 pm
first QB since Sonny Jurgensen to have cellulite…and I’m only guessing that Sonny had some cuz he was so big (and old)
September 27th, 2009 at 7:49 pm
We need…
1) a MLB
2) a RT
3) a DT
Then a QB who completes 50% of his passes on a “bad” day.
And Michael Bush to be the #1 RB.
Wouldn’t mind trashing the ZBS either…only lousy Olinemen can play it.
September 27th, 2009 at 7:49 pm
just in case “anyone”missed it
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4evaRaider Says:
September 27th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
Of course the ultimate scorn or joy will always be directed at Big Al,as should be because…
Some in here astound me with all the vitriol.Dont they understand that Al Davis and the Oakland Raiders Organization are one and the same.
In the recent fiasco with Gannon some are saying Al is a hypocrite by saying Gannon is being “dis-loyal” after the org gave him a chance 2 become what was always there,a fierce crazed competitor but he been around a long time.Anyway,4 Big Al’s comment about said disloyalty now some are saying Big Al is a hypocrite because they say he was dis-loyal 2 Wayne Valley.There could be NOTHING further from the truth…
I’m totally with Brien on this one…If the suckass aint rockin it right TAKE IT.Valley wore the Oakland Raiders Org. on his pinkie-finger,like a pinkie-ring,some sort of bling 2 show off 2 the world how incredibly bright fate has shone down on him.Sure he earned it ,but in another field other than foot-ball.
Well Al Davis was and still is an X’s and O’s guy.Al Davis knew that 2 make da Raiders everything he thought they could be,he had 2 take it.It’s not the statement Big Al was dis-loyal 2 Valley,BigAl’s loyalty was 2 The Oakland Raiders Org.If you were standing in the way no matter who you were,you were gonna get moved out of the way.Big Al knew he had to eat it,breath it,live it and BECOME ONE with da Raiders and Valley wasnt up 2 it.Big Al was NEVER dis-loyal 2 Valley,he had 1 loyalty and dat was da Raiders.The ends justify the means in this one.Al Davis saw what he had 2do and BY GAWD HE DID IT.And guess what??? the 50 years da Raiders been playing,about 40 of those years we always had a chance.40 years out of 50 years…I will take that EVERY time.Would’ve won more but the in-accurate rec….the tuck and countless other BS.The people who say Big Al is a hypocrite have no understanding the colossal undertaking Al took on.
Al Davis was NEVER dis-loyal 2 Valley.Al Davis did the world a favor just by his vision.Anybody that cant see forest through the trees says Big Al is this and that whenin actuality Al Davis and da Oakland Raiders ORG.is one and the same…dis-Al,dis-da Raiders.They’re not joined at the hip,they’re joined at the life.AND all this time AL Davis was and still is right.40 years outta 50 years SAYS SO
September 27th, 2009 at 7:49 pm
i agree dmac has poor footing every home game. has anyone told him oakland is below sea level. he is constantly slipping. dont try to make an adjustment dmac, just keep on slipping. gd fool
September 27th, 2009 at 7:52 pm
MTraidernation Says:
September 27th, 2009 at 7:41 pm
does it make anyone else angry we could have joe flacco, trent edwards or andrew walter throwing balls to calvin johnson?? those three guys are roughly the same QB as jruss, and we coulda had two of em!! PLUS a #1 WR in johnson.
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Not really. Because its deeper than draft picks. Its the way the Raiders are running themselves. Those other guys would be going through the same stuff with our antique offense and DMAC in the backfield slipping, sliding and fumbling all over the place. Not to mention the coaching changes and everything else.
This team hasn’t developed its own QB in over 30 yrs….Something else is deeply wrong here!
September 27th, 2009 at 7:52 pm
Al Davis’s new name is CANCER. Cancer Davis. I will never all him Al, or certainly not the hideous “Mr. Davis”, ever again. Cancer Davis. Fitting.
September 27th, 2009 at 7:52 pm
Reading these blog entries is way better than TV….
September 27th, 2009 at 7:53 pm
trade russell for vince young if they’ll fall for it
i’d rather have a head case than an all out bust
September 27th, 2009 at 7:53 pm
AL DAVIS HATES US !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 27th, 2009 at 7:56 pm
can somebody say blitz !
nice to hear c.johnson keep it real and talk about the play calling ! when the jackasses marched down the field on their first possesion, then the next blitzing should have came to mind . can’t brlieve that sucker kyle horton came in our house and beat us . but when you have all day to throw……
another observation…
we are s’posed to be a run first team yet even in the preseason we were passing more then running and it seems like our o-line are’nt opening the holes 4 our backs to hve huge gains and set the tempo during the game.
September 27th, 2009 at 7:57 pm
NEW NAME FOR AL DAVIS:
CANCER DAVIS.
It’s sticking.
September 27th, 2009 at 7:57 pm
lmfao lockomotive
September 27th, 2009 at 7:59 pm
if they fall for it lol
(my getting posts through word-press percentage is par with Janormus’s completion rate)
September 27th, 2009 at 8:03 pm
I CALLED D.T.V FOR A FULL REFUND FOR SUNDAY TICKET.
SHE ASKED ME IF THERE WAS A PROBLEM AND I SAID YES YOU PROMISED COMPETITIVE AND PRO FOOTBALL YOU LIED I WANT MY MONEY BACK FULL REFUND.
WHY WON’T THEY GIVE ME MY MONEY BACK ?????????
September 27th, 2009 at 8:03 pm
If I was of the same opinion as MR, I would say that Al Davis is calling the config on this server…it’s worse than lousy.
September 27th, 2009 at 8:04 pm
we need to throw some wr screens
September 27th, 2009 at 8:04 pm
I can understand after a 3-fumble game the hate going on for DMac, but why the lovefest for Bush? Many of you are calling for Bush to get 25 carries … really? Through 3 games, DMAC is averaging 13.6 carries per game while Bush is averaging 9.0, and both backs are averaging 2 receptions per game … seems to me the workload has been fairly even with a slight edge to DMAC.
No question, 4 fumbles (2 lost) in 3 games is unaccapetable. But until DMAC is averaging 22-25 touches a game, the Raiders offense will continue to struggle to score. Bush is a nice back, but he is not a gamebreaker. DMAC must correct the fumblitis, but he ran hard and well today (15 yards on one carry, 10 on another, 5 on another, 5 on another, 4 or on another). Two of his fumbles cost him another 8 yards, so he gained a total of 53 yards on 12 carries not counting the lost yardage on fumbles.
Didn’t DMAC break a tackle on a swing pass out of the backfield and pick up a first-down on a nice 7-yard gain? Didn’t he run physically in the red zone on consecutive plays before the lost fumble?
I think JR has shown he is a bust. DMAC had a bad game, but he is no bust. And Bush certainly has not proven to be a more effective RB than McFadden.
September 27th, 2009 at 8:05 pm
IF I SEE ANOTHER SCREEN PASS THIS YEAR IM GOING TO PUKE!!!!!!!
September 27th, 2009 at 8:07 pm
you know what else REALLY pisses me off?? when all the al backers say ” NO ONE wants to win more than al davis.” REALLY?! well, he doesn’t want to win THAT badly. if he did he’d probably consider changing his circa-1976 defense AND build a new stadium. REAL winners do whatever it takes to get to the next level. winners are progressive and proactive. al davis will never change, and thus, our raiders will continue to be a bottom feeder.
al davis is like a really fat guy who really wants to lose weight but refuses to stop eating mcdonald’s. he’s completely insane!!
i’m with rich gannon. let’s blow it up, and start over.
September 27th, 2009 at 8:13 pm
has anyone seen the movie v for vendetta?? al davis is the chancellor from the movie.
we need a revolution!!
remember, remember the 5th of november…
September 27th, 2009 at 8:17 pm
cable’s offense is becoming predictable, we need an offensive coordinator. we needs a real qb coach paul hackett sucks. russell has alot to learn. haven’t gave up on him yet but if we don’t get help for him h’s this close to being another marc wilson or jay scheoder, we have to force his hand make him accountable make this sucker look at pictures and talk to coaches on the sideline. make him work .
September 27th, 2009 at 8:28 pm
let’s not forget we are a work in progress imagine if we did’t have seymore. hopefully we wn’t drive him away and get a stud dt in the draft. a stud mlb , couple of o-linemen and a good veteran qb or another qb period . damn it’s week 3 and already talking draft…. not good but keepin it real
just in case one of these lines miss
these bombs just
keep coming at ya !
September 27th, 2009 at 8:35 pm
My prescription for short term improvement (things that can actually be changed) : team needs to get everyone to do iyengar yoga every morning and to take megadoses of fish oil at night: plus no more binge drinking
September 27th, 2009 at 8:43 pm
life long raider fan that has had enough not a raider fan until al davis is dead will be back when the coach’s will actually be able to coach with modern schemes THE GAME HAS PASSED YOU BY MR.DAVIS LET THE COACH’S COACH THEIR STYLE LET THEM USE THE PERSONEL IN A WAY THAT’LL BENEFIT THE TEAM NFL PLAYERS ARE TO GOOD NOW,PLAYERS CAN NOT BE DOMINATED MAN TO MAN LIKE YOU SEEM TO THINK!
September 27th, 2009 at 9:06 pm
who else wanted j russ to get hurt when he scrambled late ?
September 27th, 2009 at 9:12 pm
the o line has played well all season. dont need studs on o line i believe, well maybe left tackle. def . left tackle. dis team is a good quarterback and a bad azz safety & a possession reciever away from being super bowl good.
September 27th, 2009 at 9:35 pm
That fumble on the six yard line by D-Mac looked like he’s being paid off to take a dive. Why did he let it go? It looked like he did it on purpose.
Why are we supposed to accept the premise that the Raiders players are supposed to take soooooooo long to develop? Flacco, Ryan, Sanchez? D-Mac isn’t even the best player coming out of his own backfield at Arkansas. I’d take Felix Jones straight up any freakin’ day and twice on Sunday.
It’s only week 3 but it already feels like the season is over. You get the vibe that the team has already quit.
I’m so sick of constantly losing, and losing and losing and losing.
I have lost all hope for the Raiders EVER.
You can’t win with an 80 yr. old dumbass as your head coach and general manager. A smart 80 yr. old…maybe…but not this delusional has been.
I’m sick of all the talk about greatness, and “we’re gonna win” garbage. Dammit let’s start doing it for God’s sake and quit this constant drubbing.
All this good talent and it’s always wasted because of that psychopath who runs everything.
I’ve lost all faith in Al Davis. ‘just win baby’???? Okay…then start doing it and quit talking about the distant past.
Al is just looking sillier and sillier (if that’s possible). He should realize that he is the one ruining his own legacy that he tries to protect so much.
If I could, I would cease being a fan of this freaking joke of a franchise. It is just a drab, lifeless, waste of football with no hope whatsoever of getting better.
Now I agree with the media. I used to hate the media for the joking they would send the Raiders way, but you know what? I agree with every one of them, because this franchise is the biggest waste of talent in sports and is being led by a psychopathic, senile, LOSER. And he IS a loser becuz all his franchise does is LOSE, and I really have had enough.
September 28th, 2009 at 5:11 am
It is almost time to consider a change at QB. JRuss is so inaccurate, it is hard to watch. The 0-line cannot hold their blocks, and what I said about DHB is all coming out before your very eyes. DHB is so raw, he should not be in the game. His hands are like bricks, he cannot catch the ball. Murphy has outplayed DHB 10 fold.
It is frustrating to watch the Raiders leave the running game. DMac fumbles 3 times, all I can say is what a poor performance in front of the home crowd…
Go Raiders…
September 28th, 2009 at 6:04 pm
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September 28th, 2009 at 7:37 pm
Is it bad that I was hoping that the Broncos would take JRUSS out. I would rather lose with a second string QB that to see all that money wasted on someone that can’t even command respect. By the way it wouldn’t hurt getting a season receiver out there to show these punks what real football is all about. Is Harrison still available? I remember the old raiders used to always pick up the haz benz, on their way out players to build a team with, UMMMM Plunket?
September 28th, 2009 at 9:40 pm
I was at the raider game and JR was booeed the entire game. At one point the entire stadium (only 45000, embarrasing) chanted Russell Sucks!! F that thief, taking all our money like that and not producing s$$t. Yea OUR money, WE buy the gear and tickets!! If he starts next week I am dumping the raiders for the rest of the year. Hayward Bey is probably also gonna be a bust, but I’ll give him a few more chances..