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Postgame wrap

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Sunday, September 27th, 2009 at 7:45 pm in Oakland Raiders.

News, notes, quotes and analysis from the Raiders’ 23-3 loss to Denver Sunday at the Coliseum:

– Raiders coach Tom Cable said he never considered taking JaMarcus Russell out of the game and wouldn’t speculate about replacing him in the future if the quarterback continues to struggle.

“I just feel like we have to keep moving forward, trying to figure out what is going to help him be at his best,” Cable said.

Cable took the blame for Russell’s first interception, having him throw the ball out of his own end zone.

“I thought we could get them in a single-high safety and they bailed out to a two and Darrius fell down on that,” Cable said. “The bottom line is I could have called a better play.”

Former Raider Renaldo Hill intercepted that one. The second pick, to Andre Goodman, “was just an overthrow.”

– According to Russell, both plays should have been ruled pass interference. He said Heyward-Bey was “turned in” by a defender which resulted in what Cable said was an overthrow.

No flag was thrown on the first interception because by officials are not supposed to throw flags when receivers and defensive backs get their feet tangled.

– Asked about the booing Russell received, Cable said, “We have to play better. These fans deserve a better football team than what we showed today. How do they handle that? Obviously you hope it ticks them off and they deal with it the right way, they put more attention to the details during the week, that we demand more from them during the week and we play better on Sunday.”

– When asked if he was satisfied by his progression as an NFL quarterback, Russell said, “I am, but when you get tough looks like that, and a tough crowd, hey it’s the NFL, you have continue to progress yourself in becoming the person that you want to be.

“I know I’m not there yet. I know that. The best thing for myself is to keep preparing for Day 1 and go out and I’m going to keep on playing, until coach, we decide what we’re going to do, as far as, find a way, from coach on down until the last guy on the roster. We have to find a way to make ourselves better.

– My Web exclusive column about how the Raiders came up so small.

– Anyone seen a pass rush lately? Quarterback Kyle Orton (13-for-23, 157 yards) was not sacked and was not hurried.

“He sat back there all day. I don’t know that he was hurried more than once or twice,” Cable said. “Had some pressure there in the second half that was not getting there, where he would get the ball out on time. I thought they did a great job being able to stay on the field by running the football to keep them out of those situations.”

True enough. The Broncos hammered away with 45 rushes for 215 yards, which does a lot to soften up pressure.

– Pretty disturbing that with everything on the line Sunday _ a potential 2-1 start against the AFC West _ that Cable and Nnamdi Asomugha both cited a poor Friday practice as clue that the Raiders simply weren’t ready as they should have been.

“You win it before the game even starts,” Asomugha said. “Because you know what the team is going to do. You know how to attack them. You know how to play defense against them. I think those are the types of things we have to shore up and get better at. And then winning takes care of itself at that point.”

– Just as distrubing _ Denver is 3-0 but could fall to earth rather quickly over the next five games against Dallas, New England, San Diego, Baltimore and Pittsburgh.

Say this for the the Broncos _ Josh McDaniels has established a discernable scheme and style of play and tailored it to throttle the Raiders in every area.

As far as its stingy defense, keep in mind Denver’s last two opponents have been Cleveland and Oakland, two of the worst offenses in the NFL. It’s not like Mike Nolan has re-invented the Ravens in Denver.

– Running back Darren McFadden fumbled three times, losing one, and had 48 yards rushing and receiving on 15 touches as he he awaits the sort of breakout game which has been missing ever since his Week 2 rookie performance against Kansas City.

McFadden was long gone by the time the media came into the locker room, but did show up on a post-game quote sheet compiled by the P.R. staff.

“It was a rough day for us, just one of those days when we couldn’t get things done,” McFadden said.

Guess they forgot to ask about the fumbles.

– Defensive end Richard Seymour wasn’t interested in discussing his 15-yard unnecessary roughness penalty against offensive tackle Ryan Clady, and some heavy-handed action by the P.R. staff made sure Seymour didn’t answer any questions about anything else, either.

Santa Rosa Press Democrat columnist Lowell Cohn approached Seymour and asked, “That particular penalty, I wonder if I could trouble you to tell me what happened.”

“Did you see the game?,” Seymour said.

Cohn said he saw the game and asked if the penalty was a “mistake.”

“Wasn’t no mistake,” Seymour said.

Cohn asked Seymour why he did it, and Seymour said, “Get out of here.”

At that point, public relations staffer Mike Taylor terminated the interview and said Seymour wasn’t talking to anyone about anything. He later came to the press box and told Cohn that before he stepped on the grounds again his paper would have to deal with him “inciting the players.”

Inciting, as in, “I wonder if I could trouble you to tell me what happened.”

Look this wasn’t Seymour’s proudest moment, and everyone does something they regret. But it seemed a little out of character for a guy whose reputation was as a leader who would inspire his teammates to greater heights.

– Javon Walker was inactive again as Russell threw seven passes to rookie starters Louis Murphy and Darrius Heyward-Bey, with Murphy catching two for 25 yards and Heyward-Bey zero.

“All I know is I go out, I practice, I’m always the other team’s number one receiver,” Walker said. “This week I was Brandon, next week, going into Houston obviously, I’m going to be Andre Johnson.

“So, that’s how I get my work in and I give these guys a good look. I just let the staff and the organization make the decisions on however they want to make them.”

– Players that didn’t finish the game were cornerback John Bowie (an MCL issue to the left knee of unknown severity), Michael Huff (rib, quad) and Mike Mitchell (thumb). Defensive end Greg Ellis was still slumped in a chair with ice bag on his left shoulder after many teammates and already showered, dressed and departed.

– Rookie wide receiver Louis Murphy was on the field laughing and joking acquiantences on the Broncos following the game, but was declining all postgame interview requests.

– Saw Rich Gannon when I was coming off the elevator and he was getting on. We exchanged greetings, and he went up to the TV booth and did not come out. A member of a local radio crew tried to get in to talk with someone else in the booth and was told all non-essential personnel weren’t allowed in the booth and that it was a “high-alert” situation.

– The attendance of 45,602 was the lowest since a 44,594 crowd against the New York Giants on Dec. 31, 2005 in the regular-season finale with Kerry Collins at quarterback. That was 25 home games ago.

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  1. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    repost:

    23 run attempts, 3 of them Russell, which means we called 20 running plays. Our strength is our running game, and we run the ball 20 times. Cable loves the run, pounded the rock two weeks straight. And you guys want me to believe it was his idea to put the game in Russell’s hands? Al Davis sure has left his mark this week, hasn’t he? First by unnecessarily making a mountain out of a mole hill with Gannon, then by tinkering with the game plan. Al is a cancer. A cancer, a cancer, a cancer.

  2. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    4evaRaider, you’re hilarious. Cancer Davis was loyal to Wayne Valley? You know absolutely nothing about the history of your own franchise. Another dumb bandwagon fan who jumped on when everybody started wearing the retarded costumes. Wayne Valley tried to sue Cancer when he got back from the Olympics. One of the most colossal back stabs in sports history. Go to bed.

  3. Raider75 Says:

    These guys are primed for an implosion.

    A bad game in Houston and Cable will lose this team.

    Russell said, “I am, but when you get tough looks like that, and a tough crowd,…”

    A TOUGH CROWD? YOU WERE AT HOME JABUSTES!!

  4. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Same old sh…..

  5. Thec07 Says:

    Cohn asked Seymour why he did it, and Seymour said, “Get out of here.”

    Cohn could have gotten bashe dove the head….lol

  6. Terrapin Says:

    JR was right about that pass interference – no call.

    # Terrapin Says:
    September 27th, 2009 at 7:17 pm

    As usual though, a lot of over-simplification here.

    Those INTs were not necessarily JRs fault nor DHB running poor routes. On the 1st, DHB was tripped up on what was actually a well thrown ball. The underneath guy was beat. The safety over the top cut/ran into DHBs route. Usually that’s a pass interference in favor of the offense – not saying that I agree with those calls but still. NO CALL. (I sincerely doubt if Oakland was on defense that would’ve been a no call).

    The 2nd INT, DHB got picked as he was coming out of his break. JR was already letting the ball go. That was a clear pass interference. NO CALL. INT.

    Both of these plays together Denver got 10pts up on us.

    Its unfortunate that that sht happened and may have done more physiological damage to JR than anything.

  7. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    MR,

    Yeah, the game plan on offense and defense has Davis’ fingerprints all over it. Cable talks about the defense like he is an observer:

    “He sat back there all day. I don’t know that he was hurried more than once or twice,” Cable said. “Had some pressure there in the second half that was not getting there, where he would get the ball out on time.”

    So if Cable knows this. Why not make some #%@#! adjustments?

  8. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Then Cable takes the blame for that deep shot that was intercepted. Why all the doggone deep shots?

    Davis doesn’t call the plays…but he definitely places an emphasis on what he wants to see!

  9. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Cable should have given the Broncos a generous serving of Michael Bush. But he won’t do that.

    Why?

    Davis insists on the deep ball.

    Cable isn’t very fond of Michael Bush

  10. Thec07 Says:

    Cohn could have gotten his head bashed in by seymour….

    Question, in the 6 losing seasons what has been the common denominator???????

  11. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Thec07 Says:
    September 27th, 2009 at 7:57 pm
    Cohn asked Seymour why he did it, and Seymour said, “Get out of here.”

    Cohn could have gotten bashe dove the head….lol
    =======================================================
    Yeah, but why didn’t Seymour “bash” Moreno or Orton?

    The Raiders talk tough in the media but play like $%Q@! on the field.

    This loss was unacceptable!

  12. Terrapin Says:

    Actually they started blitzing later in the game. Problem was they couldn’t stop the run. Lanes were wide and LBs were no where to be found.

  13. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Its not the play calling, its the execution. I like the deep throws, take your shots, but given thier chemistry, Russell’s lack of accuracy and receivers who won’t or can’t high point the ball, its not going to happen more often then not.

  14. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    The Darren McFadden / Darrius Heyward-Bey experiment must come to an end.

    Russell should slog through the season so we can make a decision at the end.

    Someone better be scouting Losman in the UFL

  15. Random Drug Tester Says:

    Bush can physically handle 20 or more poundings up the middle, DMAC can’t.

    If DMAC continues to run up the middle he will lose his speed/quickness if not his legs completely.

  16. Thec07 Says:

    You can be a great X’s, and O’s guy all day, but how “relevant” are your schemes. Are they outdated, or did you keep up with the times???????

  17. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Oakland looks drugged. They look like their still sleepy on offense.

    No one talks to each other, theres no energy. They look at times like they’re watching the clock to get out of their. I’d be smashing **** if some one ate my lunch in front of me.

    Someone needs to slap Russell around and wake his azz up.

    Get fired up, be the leader. Even if you mess up, do it giving maximum effort.

    Eat and work with your wides. calm Murphy down. We need his bravado but he needs to play smarter…

    Bey’s right to be quietly confident. he knows, with work and time, there could be something special.

    Raiders continue to disappoint, but somethings got to give sooner, rather then later…
    Bishes get dictated to. React instead of dictate and alway slate. So what your the fastest defense? So what?

    You’re still taking bad angles and getting beat one on one.

    Thats the key to Davis’s D.

    Individual effort.

    It gives men a chance to shine as an individual man against man. Instead, they play down to opponents and blame the system.

    It ain’t the system buddy its YOU…

  18. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Nnamdi, you’re an idiot.

  19. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Nnamdi21 Says:
    September 27th, 2009 at 8:03 pm
    Its not the play calling, its the execution. I like the deep throws, take your shots, but given thier chemistry, Russell’s lack of accuracy and receivers who won’t or can’t high point the ball, its not going to happen more often then not.
    =====================================================
    When you have lousy receivers and a QB that can’t seem to find himself….you better throw short.

    And you don’t throw deep every other pass.

    I am deeply disappointed in the players, the coaches and of course the owner.

    Its a replay of 2006

  20. raidergo Says:

    the only blitz i remember was routt coming off the edge near the endzone…huff almost got another pick. why dont we blitz more again?

  21. raidergo Says:

    the only blitz i remember was routt coming off the edge near the endzone…huff almost got another pick. why dont we blitz more again?

  22. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Of course when you have all these top 10 picks become marginal or barely NFL caliber players…who do you start to blame…the players or……

  23. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Cable has no control of this team. I thought he had the balls to run the team his way no matter what. Turns out, Cancer was letting him run the ball the first two weeks. Cable is a b itch. I take back every good thing I said about him. Same ol b.s. 20 running plays (23 actual attempts, yet 3 were Russell..), when our strength is running the ball.

  24. Thec07 Says:

    Who is to blame for the 2009 Raiders???

    1. The Ownership
    2. The Organization
    3. The GM
    4. The player personel scout for pros’s
    5. The player personnel scout for college
    6. The Head coach
    7. The DCO
    8. the OCO
    9. The rest of the coaching staff
    10. The offensive play calling. Schemes
    11. The defensive play calling. Schemes
    12. The water boys
    13. The cheerleaders
    14. The players
    15. The concession vendors
    16. The oakland colesium, and the dirt infield
    17. ThepPosters on this blog
    18. The FANS
    19. Rich Gannon, and the media
    20. the refs
    21. the team colors

    Did I leave anything out???????

  25. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    This team will not have a winning season again until Al is being eaten by worms and roaches.

  26. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    MR,

    Don’t forget the vanilla defense….Rush 4 95% of the time

  27. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Real Madden Raider: Yaaaaaaaaawn…

    You’re a skipped disk…disk…disk…disk…

    I like the long throws down field. I like the play call. The protections there.

    I simply said given the wides inability or lack of will to go get Russell’s errant throws its not a good idea.

    So pfffffft!!!! Press the smell button on your monitor…smells like your upper lip…

  28. UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER Says:

    SEYMOUR DOSENT LIKE TO LOSE HE HAS A THING CALLED PRIDE

    LOOKS LIKE HES GOING TO HAVE TO GET USED TO IT. I WISH EVERYONE ON THE TEAM WAS LIKE HIM AND NNAMDI

    I WANDER HOW MUCH THE HAIR PULLING IS GOING TO COST HIM

    IF I WAS HIM I WOULD HAND THE FINE TO JaPoatRoast TO PAY SINCE HE HAD THEM ON THE FIELD ALL DAY NOT TO MENTION HE’S STEALING ALL THAT GURANTEED MONEY.

  29. UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER Says:

    SEYMOUR DOSENT LIKE TO LOSE HE HAS A THING CALLED PRIDE

    LOOKS LIKE HES GOING TO HAVE TO GET USED TO IT. I WISH EVERYONE ON THE TEAM WAS LIKE HIM AND NNAMDI

    I WANDER HOW MUCH THE HAIR PULLING IS GOING TO COST HIM

    IF I WAS HIM I WOULD HAND THE FINE TO JaPoatRoast TO PAY SINCE HE HAD THEM ON THE FIELD ALL DAY NOT TO MENTION HE’S STEALING ALL THAT GURANTEED MONEY.

  30. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    But hey…watching the Raiders play on Sunday is still fun to do.

    Just be nice if they would play like a real, modern NFL team for a change.

    year 7 of this sh…….

  31. Terrapin Says:

    Jerry this blog really needs to be fixed. This stuff is absolutely ridiculous ….comments are going all over the place.

  32. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Al Davis is the worst owner in all of professional sports. A cancer to his team. An obstacle to winning. He used to represent winning. Today, he stands between his franchise and winning. He’s a disease. A parasite. He’s like the swine flu. No, more like, Ebola. He is ugly, disgusting, stupid, senile, surly, and is an utter coward. A man who hides behind his title. Behind accolades only made possible through the labor of people below him. He is unrespectable. Unadmirable. Well, to everyone other than his little b itch poodle John Herrera. He just loses, baby. He’s committed to arrogance and mediocrity. He has no pride, no poise. Just a penchant for failure. There should be a picture of him in the dictionary next to the word “Defeat”.

  33. Terrapin Says:

    Terrapin Says:
    September 27th, 2009 at 7:58 pm

    JR was right about that pass interference – no call.

    # Terrapin Says:
    September 27th, 2009 at 7:17 pm

    As usual though, a lot of over-simplification here.

    Those INTs were not necessarily JRs fault nor DHB running poor routes. On the 1st, DHB was tripped up on what was actually a well thrown ball. The underneath guy was beat. The safety over the top cut/ran into DHBs route. Usually that’s a pass interference in favor of the offense – not saying that I agree with those calls but still. NO CALL. (I sincerely doubt if Oakland was on defense that would’ve been a no call).

    The 2nd INT, DHB got picked as he was coming out of his break. JR was already letting the ball go. That was a clear pass interference. NO CALL. INT.

    Both of these plays together Denver got 10pts up on us.

    Its unfortunate that that sht happened and may have done more physiological damage to JR than anything.

    *****************************

    # Terrapin Says:
    September 27th, 2009 at 8:03 pm

    Actually they started blitzing later in the game. Problem was they couldn’t stop the run. Lanes were wide and LBs were no where to be found.

  34. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Starting offensive lineup next week..hopefully!

    QB – Russell (gotta give him Schilens to evaluate)
    RB – Bush (100% of carries Tampa style) no DMAC/Fargas
    FB – ONeal
    WR – Schilens
    WR – Murphy/Walker
    3WR – JLH
    TE – Miller

  35. Thec07 Says:

    Who is to blame for the 2009 Raiders???

    1. The Ownership
    2. The Organization
    3. The GM
    4. The player personel scout for pros’s
    5. The player personnel scout for college
    6. The Head coach
    7. The DCO
    8. the OCO
    9. The rest of the coaching staff
    10. The offensive play calling. Schemes
    11. The defensive play calling. Schemes
    12. The water boys
    13. The cheerleaders
    14. The players
    15. The concession vendors
    16. The oakland colesium, and the dirt infield
    17. The Posters on this blog
    18. The FANS
    19. Rich Gannon, and the media
    20. The refs
    21. The team colors

    Did I leave anything out???????

  36. NorthernD Says:

    It doesn’t matter how many times we rush the ball if JR can’t hit the recievers. He clearly seems to be “aiming” the football and not just letting it go. I remember him at LSU and he clearly had a shorter, quicker delivery than what he does now. Someone somewhere has tried to get him to soften up his throws and it has screwed up his mechanics. He is like a hard throwing pitcher who can’t find the strike who tries to “throw strikes” and gets messed up even worse.I hope Hackett can get it worked out or else it’s back to the well for a new QB.

  37. raidergo Says:

    and what happened to the talk of pre-season with nnamdi going man up againts a teams best reciever. that sounds better than having morrison cover marshall

  38. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Its about attitude.

    The Raiders attitude sucks.

    So what you’ve been losers? Aren’t you sick of it yet? You’ve got the fans. You’ve got the fire power.

    The choice is YOURS…

  39. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Terrapin,

    I just don’t share your optimism with DHB and Russell anymore.

    DHB makes no plays. Can’t excuse that when the 4th round pick is making a catch every game.

    DHB needs to sit down.

    He’s not alone. McFadden needs to be benched, traded, cut or whatever. That kid makes NO PLAYS.

    Michael Bush is the best player on offense!

    Russell needs to play only because we need to make a decision on whether to cut him at the end of the year.

    Unfortunately, with Al Davis looming over the operation its tough to really recommend anything

    The Broncos are a garbage team and the Raiders to worked over by that team at home. A total embarassment of 2006 proportions!

  40. VanHeathen Says:

    did we even have a “gameplan”
    or are we just shooting from the hip.
    Cable is a horrible playcaller, period.
    He needs an OC who calls the plays,
    and Al needs a GM to manage personel, this team has too many holes in the line up…bummer.

  41. chappy23us Says:

    PATHETIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  42. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    raidergo Says:
    September 27th, 2009 at 8:17 pm
    and what happened to the talk of pre-season with nnamdi going man up againts a teams best reciever. that sounds better than having morrison cover marshall
    =======================================================
    Because they run an inflexible, outdated, outside-in defense B.S that is easy to game plan against.

    Chris Johnson was dogging the playcalling on KSFO saying they need to change up the looks and playcalling and alluded to the fact the players have mentioned it to the tone-deaf coaches

  43. Brien the General Says:

    No excuses here! MY boy DMAC fumbling hurt any chance of a supposed comeback. Gotta hold on to the ball and he has lost two thus far in the 2009 season.

    Russell just flat out sucks guys. Get over it people. The excuses are pitiful. There were actually idiots at the game saying it isnt Russell’s fault lol. If a QB isnt accurate than how is he helpful to his team?

    Tom Cable is a big idiot. I know the players like him but he is an idiotic play caller. DMAC and Bush are your only chances to move the chains and his refusal to stick to that has the team 1-2. They are forcing Russell to win with his arm and it will never happen.

    The defense got worked over today. At some points they tried but Denver mauled them overall. Hardly any pressure on the QB and the rbs of Denver clowned the Raiders.

    I helped lead the “Russell sucks” chants way early in the game. I knew it was over after the first drive when we went 3 and out. Many in my section were mad at me but then said I was right as the game went on.

    Sad to say this but I love Al Davis and all but this falls on him……….again. The stubborn attitude of making Russell chuck it more than handing it off is killing the team. DHB is a young WR but he isnt doing a damn thing right now, but his QB aint helping.

    Today was awful and I highly doubt this team turns it all around and find a way to be 4-4 when the bye comes. Games at Houston,NYG and SD will be very difficult to win. Not to mention back to back weeks against Philly and the NYJ. Right now people it is not looking good.

  44. Richard Bentley Says:

    If it was anybody but the Raiders, I would have just shrugged the game off, but I have such an emotional bond with them since 1967, that when I listen to game after game and play after play for years now, I get a feeling which is a combination of embarrassment, failing in some important thing, and my ex-wife taking off on me for something she claims I did (which I didn’t do) ten years ago. I just can’t handle it anymore; it’s time for me to move on. This is not good for my psyche. Good luck, Raiders; I hope you get things straightened out someday, but I just have to stop so the resulting headache doesn’t happen.

  45. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    This team doesn’t break the 5 win mark until Al Davis is 6 feet in the ground being gnawed by f’n rats.

  46. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER Says:
    September 27th, 2009 at 8:11 pm
    SEYMOUR DOSENT LIKE TO LOSE HE HAS A THING CALLED PRIDE
    ====================================================
    Whatever….

    Stupid penalties are stupid penalties

    Think Belicheck would put up with that B.S

  47. Nnamdi21 Says:

    raidergo Says:
    September 27th, 2009 at 8:17 pm
    and what happened to the talk of pre-season with nnamdi going man up againts a teams best reciever. that sounds better than having morrison cover marshall

    ================================

    Yeah thats some BS right there.

    WTF is Aso doing trailing 3rd stringer Jabbar Gaffney across the line?!!!

    The Broncos out thought us. There was confusion on the D several times.

    REMOVE KIRK MORRISON from as the QB of the D!

    Ditch Stanford Routt!

    Play Mike Mitchell!!!

  48. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Brien, Al Davis hired every single person you blamed for today’s loss, and Al has been the only one who’s been here throughout the past 6 years. Our only prayer in being a winning team again is for Al Davis to croak, period.

  49. Nnamdi21 Says:

    SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
    September 27th, 2009 at 8:19 pm
    Terrapin,

    I just don’t share your optimism with DHB and Russell anymore.

    DHB makes no plays. Can’t excuse that when the 4th round pick is making a catch every game.

    DHB needs to sit down.

    He’s not alone. McFadden needs to be benched, traded, cut or whatever. That kid makes NO PLAYS.

    =============================

    Raider Young Guns Misfire

    http://www.raidernationstation.com/2009_regular_season

  50. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Brien,

    DMAC has to go! Cut him, trade him, release him…whatever…

    I have the same feeling watching him run that I do watching Russell throw….and I just get ticked off when I see Cable on the sidelines.

    But my anger is misdirected. Al Davis forces the players and coaches to run an antique offense/defense that won’t work once there is some film out on how they play.

    Its really tough to be a Raider fan

  51. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Brien the General Says:
    September 27th, 2009 at 8:26 pm
    SnB I highly disagree with you on DMAC getting cut. Dmac picked up some of the few first downs we had today. Inexcusable for the fumble in the 3rd quarter. Bush isnt better than Dmac. Did you not see him fumble as well today? Bench Dmac to put in who? Farglass? Please. You saw as soon as he got a carry he was blasted to the max
    ======================================================
    What good is a running back that fumbles all the time?

    He had one or two decent runs…but nothing that Bush couldn’t do. Bush is the guy that breaks tackles, he also looks better catching the ball.

    Bush is the man. I am done with excusing these high draft millionaires. All of them are garbage right now.

    Every doggone one of them!

    Play Bush….Play JLH and Schilens next week and give the bust in the making QB a freekn chance.

    Start scouting JP Losman.

    This team and organization is so inept with their playcalling, practice habits and overall way they approach things. Like the Gannon garbage.

    Bush, JLH, Schilens, Miller….Just like late last year and stop this failed experiment with these so called super stars

  52. Brien the General Says:

    SnB I highly disagree with you on DMAC getting cut. Dmac picked up some of the few first downs we had today. Inexcusable for the fumble in the 3rd quarter. Bush isnt better than Dmac. Did you not see him fumble as well today? Bench Dmac to put in who? Farglass? Please. You saw as soon as he got a carry he was blasted to the max

  53. Terrapin Says:

    SnB – I think your just upset (I dont feel good either). But I have learned to be less emotional about things and more rational. So I look at the big picture a lot.

    Russell is in danger or permanently regressing and its a combination of things, one of which is he’s relying on 2 rookie WRs who are completely new to him and he’s got learning to do himself.

    DHB is getting open. They are just not connecting for whatever reason.

    McFadden is making plays out there. To bad he can’t hold onto the ball and he’s not as polished of a runner as you would like.

    Russell will not get cut. The Raiders are stuck with him so they’ll just have to find a way through it all and hope he comes around.

  54. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Brien the General Says:
    September 27th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
    SnB, I ask you when was the last time we ever seen Dmac get 20 touches in a game? I’ll wait
    =====================================================
    He doesn’t deserve 20 touches.

    especially when he’s giving away touches or slipping and sliding on the field or getting shoestringed tackled all the time.

    I’ve seen enough

    Michael Bush 25x like they did against Tampa and start looking like a real offense

  55. Thec07 Says:

    70’s ball dont work in the 2k’s. Just like the cars of the 70’s arent as efficient as the cars of today.
    The yes men around Al need to be fired herrera, trask, whoever else is part of the org…

  56. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Brien the General Says:
    September 27th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
    SnB, I ask you when was the last time we ever seen Dmac get 20 touches in a game? I’ll wait
    =====================================================
    He doesn’t deserve 20 touches.

    especially when he’s giving away touches or slipping and sliding on the field or getting shoestringed tackled all the time.

    I’ve seen enough

    Michael Bush 25x like they did against Tampa and start looking like a real offense

  57. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Watching Cable’s press conference on NFL.com. Totally wrong about him. Unbelievable. He’s Turner/Callahan/Shell all over again. No fire. Just giving the same old Davis puppet answers.

  58. Thec07 Says:

    Someone said our O looks like the bed and breakfast O, how accurate is that of an assessment???

  59. Brien the General Says:

    SnB, I ask you when was the last time we ever seen Dmac get 20 touches in a game? I’ll wait

    Yeah exactly. All the offense has to do is give heavy doses of DMAC and Bush and we would do a lot better.

  60. Terrapin Says:

    For the life of me I just dont understand this team. They came out 1st week with fire – just taking it to SD. And they follow that up with these two lackadaisical performances?

    I just don’t get it.

    Brien – In all fairness, say what you will about Russell (yes, he’s stinkin’) but McFadden has been costing us big when we’re driving for TDs (vs SD and today). They got to get that sht fixed.

  61. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Terrapin you’re an idiot. Typical Davis shill. STFU and go to bed.

  62. Thec07 Says:

    Brie, what up? How is Norco Bob dodin? Miss his one liners, and all around funny Ish..,,

  63. Terrapin Says:

    This damn blog is the worst!

    # Terrapin Says:
    September 27th, 2009 at 8:31 pm

    For the life of me I just dont understand this team. They came out 1st week with fire – just taking it to SD. And they follow that up with these two lackadaisical performances?

    I just don’t get it.

    Brien – In all fairness, say what you will about Russell (yes, he’s stinkin’) but McFadden has been costing us big when we’re driving for TDs (vs SD and today). They got to get that sht fixed.

  64. Terrapin Says:

    # Terrapin Says:
    September 27th, 2009 at 8:31 pm

    For the life of me I just dont understand this team. They came out 1st week with fire – just taking it to SD. And they follow that up with these two lackadaisical performances?

    I just don’t get it.

    Brien – In all fairness, say what you will about Russell (yes, he’s stinkin’) but McFadden has been costing us big when we’re driving for TDs (vs SD and today). They got to get that sht fixed.

  65. Brien the General Says:

    # Thec07 Says:
    September 27th, 2009 at 8:31 pm

    Someone said our O looks like the bed and breakfast O, how accurate is that of an assessment???
    ******************

    As of right now the bed and breakfast O gets my vote for better offense than what Russell can ever muster. Guy is awful

  66. Brien the General Says:

    Thec………….. Bob is quite pissed as we all were today. Russell is worse than Ryan Leaf IMO

  67. Thec07 Says:

    Brien the General Says:
    September 27th, 2009 at 8:34 pm
    # Thec07 Says:
    September 27th, 2009 at 8:31 pm

    Someone said our O looks like the bed and breakfast O, how accurate is that of an assessment???
    ******************

    As of right now the bed and breakfast O gets my vote for better offense than what Russell can ever muster. Guy is awful

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    ROFLMFAO……………………….

    I am banned from making comments about players until the bye week. Not sure if I am going to make it but will try.

  68. Brien the General Says:

    Where is Kell and his stats from the last 7 games of the 08 season? Is he gonna keep defending Russell or what

  69. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    When was the last time the Raiders developed their own QB?

  70. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    I would go ahead and sign JP Losman right now.

    Cut Frye and let Losman get in here to learn the playbook so that he will be ready to go in training camp to compete with Russell

  71. JB Says:

    Cable is great at making limp assed excuses for his players. What he should be doing is kicking some ass, a lot of yelling, screaming and hand gestures, and demand that players play to their level of ability lest they ride the pine or better yet end up of the waiver wire. Cable needs to understand that these athletes are supposed to be professionals. They are damned lucky to be making the incomes they do and should understand that their job may be on the line. He needs to pick someone and just cut their ass just to make a point. It almost doesn’t make any difference as to who because we have other losers right behind them to play as bad as they did. Call some people out Cable or we’ll call you out.

  72. drray Says:

    SOmenone needs to force Jamarcus to start Iyengar yoga every morning, and to take 4 tablets of fish oil at night

  73. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Another incident with the media? Seymour this time? The hole just gets deeper and deeper. 1-15 is truly a possibility.

  74. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Brien the General Says:
    September 27th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
    SnB, I ask you when was the last time we ever seen Dmac get 20 touches in a game? I’ll wait
    ======================================================
    He doesn’t deserve 20 touches.

    He’s a 5-10 guy. Can’t hold up…can’t make plays

  75. Thec07 Says:

    Brien, You see Bob tell him i said whats up. The blog misses his one liners big time…..

    After the first game I labled JRUSS the black ryan leaf, but i retracted that comment and said I would hold off all judgement until the bye…

  76. Brien the General Says:

    Thec…….why ban yourself. Just tell the truth. Russell sucks. Cable is an idiot. John Marshall runs the Al Davis defense. Cornell Green is a waste of space. The Linebackers are fast but dont fill the gaps well. Gerard Warren is a damn joke of a player. I thought Tommy Kelly would play better so far he sucks. Shall I go on?

  77. ragin Says:

    the linebackers suk azz

  78. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Until Al Davis dies, we will continue to lose, and you guys will continue to sit in here and split hairs over players. FACT.

  79. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    drray Says:
    September 27th, 2009 at 8:38 pm
    SOmenone needs to force Jamarcus to start Iyengar yoga every morning, and to take 4 tablets of fish oil at night
    =====================================================
    Hire competent coaches and run a modern scheme.

    Its the organization and its the environment that turns players like Russell/DMAC/DHB/Huff/Gallery and everyone else into pumpkins

  80. 4evaRaider Says:

    NNamdi is ABSOLUTLY RIGHT!!!It is all about execution.Donkeys coach is no other the ex-offensive coordinator of the gay-triots.Last year when the pats stomped us whats his name used the same game-plan that worked so well 4 the pats.Different players…same results.What Gannon dosent understand is that Al already blew it up and is starting over.New coach,big youth movement.These guys are gonna have 2 learn 2 win and they will…40 years out of 50 years SAYS SO

  81. Terrapin Says:

    It appears I can’t catch up with the future …this blog is the worst!

    # Terrapin Says:
    September 27th, 2009 at 8:31 pm

    For the life of me I just dont understand this team. They came out 1st week with fire – just taking it to SD. And they follow that up with these two lackadaisical performances?

    I just don’t get it.

    Brien – In all fairness, say what you will about Russell (yes, he’s stinkin’) but McFadden has been costing us big when we’re driving for TDs (vs SD and today). They got to get that sht fixed.

  82. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Brien,

    I am a Houston blow-out from giving up.

    Schilens is the only hope this entire team has right now

  83. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Those of you guys blaming players for the fact that we’ve sucked for 6, wait, make it 7 years straight are exactly why Raider fans are voted the dumbest fans in all of sports every time there’s a poll on it.

  84. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    A seventh round pick.

    Because all the top picks are pathetic

  85. Thec07 Says:

    Brien the General Says:
    September 27th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
    Thec…….why ban yourself. Just tell the truth. Russell sucks. Cable is an idiot. John Marshall runs the Al Davis defense. Cornell Green is a waste of space. The Linebackers are fast but dont fill the gaps well. Gerard Warren is a damn joke of a player. I thought Tommy Kelly would play better so far he sucks. Shall I go on?

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    ROFLMAO>>>>>>>>>

    AMEN…..

  86. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    DMAC should move to the #2…a distant #2

    Give Bush the ball 27x….

    Start Schilens and JLH next week.

  87. NorthernD Says:

    Cable needs to readjust his thinking if he wants to get JR back on track. Throwing short touch passes to the backs will only screw with his mechanics. They drafted a fastball pitcher, let him throw fastballs. The WR’s should be doing 20-30 curl routes and let JR fire the ball into them.
    He is continually overthrowing the receivers because he is not stepping into his throws. He is aiming the ball.
    Michael Bush should be getting 70% of the touches.

  88. tazZraider Says:

    jamrcus said he thinks hes playin fine.

    i wanna strangle him after he said that.

  89. Brien the General Says:

    Yo Thec……..Bob said what’s happenin

    Oh please stop it SnB. 5-10 plays? You are smoking sherm now. Can’t make plays? Please you are full of schit right now man. i know you are pissed but you are completely off on DMAC right now and you know it.

    Bush is cool and all but the guy is slow to hit the hole at times. for such a big guy he isnt as violent of a runner I would expect

  90. raideralex99 Says:

    SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
    September 27th, 2009 at 8:03 pm
    The Darren McFadden / Darrius Heyward-Bey experiment must come to an end.

    Russell should slog through the season so we can make a decision at the end.

    Someone better be scouting Losman in the UFL
    ______________________________________________________________
    LOL … it’s the JaMarcus experiment that should be over!
    I thought Cable was a good coach until I heard say he would never bench JaMarcus.
    Hey … maybe by week 10 when the season is over and there’s no pressure on the big boy … he will complete 50% of his passes.

  91. Terrapin Says:

    F this blog. I’m out! This blog is enough to piss you off even further

  92. drray Says:

    i agree we need a modern scheme, but assuming we cant change that immediately while current ownership is intact…i a focusing on changes things someone could change to help…not ones that appear unchangeable…..ie management philosophy……..- I think yoga will help jamarcus footwork, and flexibility issues and fish oil his concentration and focus…….I’m just reccomending simple things that might help any athelete who looks completely lost out there

  93. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Terrapin Says:
    September 27th, 2009 at 8:41 pm
    It appears I can’t catch up with the future …this blog is the worst!

    # Terrapin Says:
    September 27th, 2009 at 8:31 pm

    For the life of me I just dont understand this team. They came out 1st week with fire – just taking it to SD. And they follow that up with these two lackadaisical performances?

    I just don’t get it.
    =======================================================
    Bad coaching and no leadership and a bunch of players that are not smart enough or aware enough on how to prepare.

    Stupid passes, stupid fumbles, stupid coverages, stupid drops, lousy personnel and an owner that….

  94. tazZraider Says:

    im too disgusted to talk about our loss so ima look at the positive things. mike mitchell!!!

  95. alisgod Says:

    well the only thing silver lining for me today was that Mitchell did pretty decent. He’s going to be a fine player for us. He was around the ball alot when he was in there.

    Cable called a terrible game. Marshall couldnt make adjustments to get rid of that option receiver route over the middle that exploited Morrison time and again on 3rd downs.

    I think we can all agree that they should just make McChicken a slot receiver.

  96. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Brien,

    DMAC DOES NOT hit the holes faster than Bush.

    DMAC does not make plays

    DMAC fumbles every f’n week and loses ball games

    I am tired of this guy.

    Bush does everything DMAC can do at a fraction of the cost and he’s more of a threat

  97. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    4evaRaider, want me to go back to calling you 4evaRetard, again? One more Davis shilling blurb like that, and I will. “It was the execution”. Yeh, the execution of the meddling owner. Take a timeout, stupid fool.

  98. Brien the General Says:

    Terp: Yep Dmac fumbles did hurt against SD and Denver but what about his play down the stretch against KC? Remember that?

    SnB……..that is your choice but I’m not giving up but I know what the deal is. I thought this team would never lay down and die but they seemed to have packed it in coming out for the 2nd half

  99. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Next week is the last week for this team as its currently structured…including the coaching.

    A must win if there ever was one!

    2-2 is manageable…but the psychological damage of a 1-3 start with another miserable performance from is so-called star players and so-called stout defense will = a complete disaster going into Giants and Eagles.

    I am hoping they show us something they have been unable to do for 6.2 years! Win a damn game that matters and in the right way.

    But Houston can score points and the weather conditions will be perfect this time around. And I am sure they watched film of our antique defense get gnashed up the gut on the ground and scorched over the middle in the air.

    Chaz Schilens and Johnnie Lee Higgins with Michael Bush should start with Zach Miller.

    HAve to start Russell….

    Sign Losman

  100. Reka5maticRaider Says:

    I’m 5′11 with a decent accurate arm, but im a american/filipino athlete, with no chance in the nfl! i’ll train with pacquiao to be the best cover corner in the league watch out!

  101. Brien the General Says:

    # SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
    September 27th, 2009 at 8:48 pm

    Brien,

    DMAC DOES NOT hit the holes faster than Bush.

    DMAC does not make plays

    DMAC fumbles every f’n week and loses ball games

    I am tired of this guy.

    Bush does everything DMAC can do at a fraction of the cost and he’s more of a threat
    ****************************

    All lies in this post SnB and you know it man. Soon your name will be BnS.

  102. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    4evaRetard, Al Davis is a cancer.

  103. Brien the General Says:

    Bush start over Dmac hahahahahahahaha that is a joke

  104. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Brien,

    What has DMAC done? When I think of a difference maker I look at Chris Johnson….I look at Matt Forte….even Bradshaw in NYG…

    McFadden is just another guy

  105. 4evaRaider Says:

    repost…I figgure if others can keep spewing ther line…I can 2
    ***********************************************4evaRaider Says:
    September 27th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
    Of course the ultimate scorn or joy will always be directed at Big Al,as should be because…

    Some in here astound me with all the vitriol.Dont they understand that Al Davis and the Oakland Raiders Organization are one and the same.

    In the recent fiasco with Gannon some are saying Al is a hypocrite by saying Gannon is being “dis-loyal” after the org gave him a chance 2 become what was always there,a fierce crazed competitor but he been around a long time.Anyway,4 Big Al’s comment about said disloyalty now some are saying Big Al is a hypocrite because they say he was dis-loyal 2 Wayne Valley.There could be NOTHING further from the truth…
    I’m totally with Brien on this one…If the suckass aint rockin it right TAKE IT.Valley wore the Oakland Raiders Org. on his pinkie-finger,like a pinkie-ring,some sort of bling 2 show off 2 the world how incredibly bright fate has shone down on him.Sure he earned it ,but in another field other than foot-ball.
    Well Al Davis was and still is an X’s and O’s guy.Al Davis knew that 2 make da Raiders everything he thought they could be,he had 2 take it.It’s not the statement Big Al was dis-loyal 2 Valley,BigAl’s loyalty was 2 The Oakland Raiders Org.If you were standing in the way no matter who you were,you were gonna get moved out of the way.Big Al knew he had to eat it,breath it,live it and BECOME ONE with da Raiders and Valley wasnt up 2 it.Big Al was NEVER dis-loyal 2 Valley,he had 1 loyalty and dat was da Raiders.The ends justify the means in this one.Al Davis saw what he had 2do and BY GAWD HE DID IT.And guess what??? the 50 years da Raiders been playing,about 40 of those years we always had a chance.40 years out of 50 years…I will take that EVERY time.Would’ve won more but the in-accurate rec….the tuck and countless other BS.The people who say Big Al is a hypocrite have no understanding the colossal undertaking Al took on.

    Al Davis was NEVER dis-loyal 2 Valley.Al Davis did the world a favor just by his vision.Anybody that cant see forest through the trees says Big Al is this and that whenin actuality Al Davis and da Oakland Raiders ORG.is one and the same…dis-Al,dis-da Raiders.They’re not joined at the hip,they’re joined at the life.AND all this time AL Davis was and still is right.40 years outta 50 years SAYS SO

    *************

  106. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    DMAC can’t hold on to the ball! What good is a running back that can’t hold on to the ball!

    Just like a receiver that’s a “decoy”

    What a load

  107. Brien the General Says:

    Dmac has fumbled but he has made more first downs than anyone on this team. On offense he has been our best player. Try and dispute after u drop the crack pipe

  108. Reka5maticRaider Says:

    If al davis seen filipinos running around in their slippers 4.3 40 sheeyet, he’d drool imagining them with cleets on!

  109. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    4eva,

    At some point this team has to start winning games.

    especially against teams like dEnver

    They got blown out of the house…at home and the score wasn’t even as close

    A total and complete embarassment.

    Here comes Schaub, Slaton, Daniels and Johnson on the road.

    When does this crap turn around and be respectable

  110. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Who’s in line to be the next HC when Davis inevitably scapegoats Cable? How about Herrera? First openly gay head coach. Al can continue his legacy of being a trailblazer.

  111. Reka5maticRaider Says:

    Aye forreal tho just a question? if Mayweather and Pacquiao fights next time around it happens who will win???

  112. Brien the General Says:

    Ha I can understand being upset bout the fumbles. I aint digging it either but to say just another guy is a foolish statement. Neither running back whether Dmac or Bush can ever light it up when 8 or 9 men are in the box constantly. You think things offensively would upgrade with Bush in the lineup? Puhlllllllllllease. That fat sorry QB wouldnt still hit an elephant’s ass with a bowling ball

  113. Reka5maticRaider Says:

    im pretty sure there are boxing fans in here right?

  114. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    September 27th, 2009 at 8:57 pm
    Who’s in line to be the next HC when Davis inevitably scapegoats Cable?
    =======================================================
    Yeah, it really doesn’t matter at this point.

    After 6+ yrs of this….even Davis has to run out of answers.

    All we can hope for…is that Cable has the guts to go to Davis and tell him here’s what needs to happen to save the season and that Davis listens….

    Russell has to get his head out of his backside.

    And DMAC and Heyward-Bey need to go to the bench

  115. Brien the General Says:

    # Reka5maticRaider Says:
    September 27th, 2009 at 8:57 pm

    Aye forreal tho just a question? if Mayweather and Pacquiao fights next time around it happens who will win???
    ********************

    I’d take either fighter against Russell

  116. B-MO Says:

    Is there any QB in the NFL you wouldn’t rather have than Russell?

  117. alisgod Says:

    The raiders seem to play better against teams that relies less on schemes (like McDaniel) and more on their talent. I was afraid that McDaniel was going to do to us what he did here last year. That punk kid kept on killing us with that option receiver route.

    I think we will do better against Houston than you guys may think. Houston plays us straight up with Andre Johnson’s talent and our Chris JOhnson can hang with him.

  118. Reka5maticRaider Says:

    i’m telling all of you guys in here, Manny Pacquiao promoted a raider game this year guaranteed sellout ya’ll!!!!!!!

  119. tazZraider Says:

    brocos had 45 carries for 215 yards and we had 23 for 95. thats ridiculous our run game is supposed to be one of the best in the league and maybe yall right it might be al daviss meddling because cable loves to and wants to run the ball.

  120. Reka5maticRaider Says:

    russell is to slow against mayweather, he’ll own jameatball in the 6th round!

  121. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    4evaRetard, how many times are you going to post that dumb send up for Cancer Davis? Nobody is going to read it. Everyone knows this team goes nowhere until Davis is 6 feet underground and growing fungus. F him and you!

  122. MTraidernation Says:

    macfadden is a good back but he shouldn’t be the starter. bush should be the workhorse. heyward-bey is worthless and will go down as a bigger bust that russell. murphy is light years ahead of DHB. complete waste of a first round pick. i love kirk morrison, but he IS NOT a middle backer.

    i love the raiders, but this team is a joke. i’ll be shocked if they win 5 games. the irritating thing is they have a lot of talent and guys that would flourish with other teams, but they play for a senile owner who won’t take the death grip off the reigns and let his coaches coach. Al’s scheme would make the ‘85 bears look awful. it hasn’t worked for years now, and yet, it’s still employed.

    can anyone tell me the definition of insanity??

    no one wants to win more than al davis?? paa-leeze. spare me. winners adapt. winners are proactive and progressive. al davis either doesn’t care about winning or doesn’t know how anymore. which is it? could be both.

  123. Brien the General Says:

    Sorry SnB you are quite wrong. Dmac goes to bench for what? We run a two headed attack. Dont tell me you are suggesting Farglass because he does nothing at all. Dmac holds on to that ball and we may score……I mean may score a TD and still be down 20-10. Wouldnt have made a comeback man. The losses fall on Russell’s shoulders. You really want to put things on Dmac? The guy who has been making a good amount of your first downs? Haha

  124. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Brien,

    DMAC is a delicate running back. Soon he will probably go down with an injury. He’s in the show me phase now….I am not impressed

    AS for Russell….if the Raiders had a young option on the bench…I would say play him…but they don’t so they got go with this southern boy. I would sign JP Losman so that he can get up to speed and be ready to compete come training camp next year because Russell will be there regardless because of his contract.

    The raiders should never draft a QB again! Because their organization is not capable of doing the hard things necessary to develop a QB. Russell is close to being ruined anyway and may need a change in scenery.

    He made his mistakes with us…lack of studying, bad habits and all…..the raiders need vet QBs because the organziation is so freekn weak because Davis has an iron grip that 4eva will explain to us in detail

  125. B-MO Says:

    We win with almost any other QB in the league! Russell Sucks so bad!

  126. 4evaRaider Says:

    I wish I knew.Cable is really a first year coach.They all gonna make mistakes.Noone was predicting S/B so even if it takes all this year and part of next,I believe it will work-out.We hit a six,7 or even 8 year bad spell.Even in a season as this one appears heading,we are very youngbut we are also going 2B highly explosive.Keep throwing da long ball and try 2 have a well thought out and exacuted game-plan.And a nasty ass MLB wouldnt hurt =)

  127. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Brien,

    I am suggesting Bush 20 to 25x with DMAC getting the rest.

    That’s what I am suggesting

  128. Reka5maticRaider Says:

    Brien the General Says:
    September 27th, 2009 at 8:59 pm
    # Reka5maticRaider Says:
    September 27th, 2009 at 8:57 pm

    Aye forreal tho just a question? if Mayweather and Pacquiao fights next time around it happens who will win???
    ********************

    I’d take either fighter against Russell

    ==================================================
    Russell can’t even last the 1st round against both fighters!!!!!!!!! damn what a 1st round pick?

  129. Brien the General Says:

    If Dmac should go to the bench…….where the hell should Jamarcus Russell go?

  130. Brien the General Says:

    SnB, I’m suggesting using both guys and running it 40 damn times a game. Both guys would do wonders for the offense. Remember the first two drives against SD? Exactly. They both compliment each other well. To say DMAC should get benched is ridiculous. Bush has not made more plays than DMAC sorry.

  131. Brien the General Says:

    And dammit Cable, how many freakin screens do you want to run a game? Think teams aren’t on that bullshhhhh?

  132. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    ADrian Peterson was dealing with 8-9 in the box and was making things happen.

    Those Carolina backs face 8-9 in the box.

    Either you can do it or you can’t

    Get Bush in there…becuase he did do it once at least…and that’s one more time than any other back on this freekn roster

  133. Raider75 Says:

    From Corkran…

    The team’s frustration spilled forth on to the sideline, where rookie receivers Louis Murphy and Heyward-Bey exchanged words and had to be separated. Murphy calmed down and spent at least five minutes talking with his teammate on the bench, and Heyward-Bey said it was over his route running.

    …………………

    At least 1 player on this offense has some pride. Murphy should punch Russell in the face.

  134. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Brien the General Says:
    September 27th, 2009 at 9:03 pm
    If Dmac should go to the bench…….where the hell should Jamarcus Russell go?
    ====================================================
    If they sign JP Losman…then put Russell on the bench too.

  135. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Murphy was right to call out DHB. The guy plays like a 4th round pick. Meanwhile, Murphy is at least getting catches

  136. Brien the General Says:

    Deilcate? Ha and what is steel rod legged Bush?

  137. 4evaRaider Says:

    I believe Jmac is the ONLY QB in franchise history who didnt ride da pine.If Jmac was fortunate enough 2 ride da pine like Stabler did 4 for years I;m sure we would all be singing Jmac’S glory.So the organization has brought along a QB…Stabler,not 2 shabby.But desperate times call 4 desrerate measures.IMO it all started with Gruden’s style of win now.Just look at the Bucs…same M/O

    Big Al let 2much control go and now he’s bringing it back in

  138. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    BRien,

    Next week, I bet the Bush gets more of the carries. Russell will be on a short leash too. If he flubs it up in the 1st QTR, Gradkowski comes in.

    This team is about to implode anyway. You can tell. Russell sounds more and more frustrated…DHB and Murphy fighting, DMAC a mess, and the defense is garbage.

    Next weeks game is for the next 3 yrs to be honest.

    If they implode you will be talking about replacing the D-Line (Seymour won’t come back) the Linebackers, the QB, and the O-Line and another fall-guy head coach.

    So we all better HOPE they win this game against Houston…otherwise 6 yrs turns into 10 or 11

  139. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Guys, when Cable is inevitably scapegoated, how about John Herrera? First openly gay head coach. Al can continue his trailblazing legacy.

  140. Brien the General Says:

    # SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
    September 27th, 2009 at 9:06 pm

    ADrian Peterson was dealing with 8-9 in the box and was making things happen.

    Those Carolina backs face 8-9 in the box.

    Either you can do it or you can’t

    Get Bush in there…becuase he did do it once at least…and that’s one more time than any other back on this freekn roster
    ******************************

    Adrian Peterson does not deal with 8 or 9 man boxes all game because he has had QBs that at least can complete a pass to an open WR.

    Carolina backs face 8-9 men in the box with Steve Smith out there for one on one? Stop it

    Bush did what at least? Please say it so i can kill it

  141. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    4eva,

    Perhaps Al’s scouts should have done a better job of interviewing Russell during the combine.

    Perhaps they shouldn’t have let Lane Kiffin trash Walter.

    Perhaps they should have signed Russell on time and surrounded him with competent coaching and a real vet…not McCown/Culpepper

    Plus Russell sat the whole year!

  142. MTraidernation Says:

    good for murphy!!! i like the kid. he’s WAY better than DHB. no contest. murphy and scheilens could be a great combo. that is if they played with another QB or another owner.

  143. B-MO Says:

    Denver’s O-Line is Legit. That is why they kicked our Tail….ran all over us, and never got any pressure on Orton. Russell is a colossal BUST! I can name you 20 QB’s who we could win with right now! Be honest and tell me you wouldn’t rather have Brady Quinn, Matt Ryan, Mark Sanchez, Joe Flacco, Kevin Kolb, etc. I bet we would even be better with Gradkowski or Frye! Russell is worthless.

  144. MTraidernation Says:

    so, we’re all agreement that jamarcus is al’s pick. one of the reasons al fired kiffin was because lane didn’t want jruss. also, DHB is a classic al pick-speed, nothing else AND in the first round. i know it’s only his third game, but you can tell he’ll be out of the nfl in a few years; he can’t catch the football!!

    we’ve got a 1st round qb who can’t throw, throwing to a 1st round wr who can’t catch. that’ll strike fear into every defense.

    thanks al

  145. Kirk Says:

    Bush should have been the starter since the beginning of last season. Russell will never be a pro quarterback. Gradkowski is better. $32 million dollars down the drain. Better start drafting offensive tackles in the first round like Denver does.

  146. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    4evaRaider Says:
    September 27th, 2009 at 9:09 pm
    I believe Jmac is the ONLY QB in franchise history who didnt ride da pine.If Jmac was fortunate enough 2 ride da pine like Stabler did 4 for years I;m sure we would all be singing Jmac’S glory.So the organization has brought along a QB…Stabler,not 2 shabby.But desperate times call 4 desrerate measures.IMO it all started with Gruden’s style of win now.Just look at the Bucs…same M/O

    Big Al let 2much control go and now he’s bringing it back in
    =======================================================
    I don’t share your enthusiasm. This 6-year stretch is an abomination! Now we are going on 7….Almost a decade of the worst football in the NFL

    This isn’t working.

    They better get it together. Next week is for everything!

  147. Brien the General Says:

    Bush will only get more carries if DMAC is hurt. Russell is not getting benched this week.

    Al Davis is in charge so that will not happen buddy. You talk for what you wish to happen not what will really happen.

  148. doriangray Says:

    anybody else wanted j russ to get hurt when he scrambled?

  149. B-MO Says:

    Denver’s O-Line is Legit. That is why they kicked our Tail….ran all over us, and never got any pressure on Orton. Russell is a colossal BUST! I can name you 20 QB’s who we could win with right now! Be honest and tell me you wouldn’t rather have Brady Quinn, Matt Ryan, Mark Sanchez, Joe Flacco, Kevin Kolb, etc. I bet we would even be better with Gradkowski or Frye! Russell is worthless.

  150. Dude Says:

    Did someone just say Chris Johnson can hang with Andre Johnson?? LOL… Only in Raiderland.

  151. Brien the General Says:

    Next week is everything? SnB man apparently you didnt watch the SD game. That was everything and losing that game did them in

  152. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Guys, 4evaRetard just blamed Gruden for how bad we are now. A study needs to be done on Davis shills. They’re by far the scariest people on the planet.

  153. 4evaRaider Says:

    SnB…I think you are right on all those points…

    But I know finger-pointing,jaw busting antics are not going 2 fix our problems.

    Work harder

    Dig Deeper…thats all I would tell them

  154. Brien the General Says:

    Chris Johnson did cool last year against Andre johnson but that was last year. Andre Johnson is an all pro talent just like Brandon Marshall. CJ gonna have his hands full

  155. Culebra Says:

    What I’m wondering about is Friday’s practice. What the hell happened? You’ve just come back from a win at KC, and it’s a new season. You’re about to play the broncos, a team you can probably take out and you’re sloppy on friday’s practice? There really is something going on with this organization, it is disjointed and Davis is just the cloud hanging over…They’re not gelled together for a common goal and it doesn’t seem like they want to become a team. Sigh! When Al croaks then we’ll have leadership. Young players usually want to win and become great players but you got to show them good structure and it all starts from the f_ckin’ top.

  156. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    They will line up Andre in the slot and that will be it. Morrison will cover him because the defense is so inflexible

  157. Dude Says:

    Work harder. Dig deeper.?????

    How bout Al Davis works harder and digs deeper for good players? Oh I forgot, thats just not an Al Davis thang.

  158. Brien the General Says:

    I’m willing to bet you that Russell is out at the club partying hard not even thinking about how terrible he is at his craft

  159. Brien the General Says:

    # SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
    September 27th, 2009 at 9:20 pm

    They will line up Andre in the slot and that will be it. Morrison will cover him because the defense is so inflexible
    *********************

    As I’ve told Priest and such before…….we run the Al Davis defense point blank

  160. ragin Says:

    Linebackers suk azzz

  161. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Oh, just don’t point the finger at Al. But feel free to point it at Gruden, a guy who hasn’t been in here in NEARLY A DECADE!!!!! YOU’RE BY FAR THE DUMBEST MOFO I’VE EVER MET, 4EVARETARD! BY FAR! YOU’RE UN F’N REAL!!!!

  162. 4evaRaider Says:

    I hope you are wrong on this one Brien

  163. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Brien the General Says:
    September 27th, 2009 at 9:20 pm
    I’m willing to bet you that Russell is out at the club partying hard not even thinking about how terrible he is at his craft
    ======================================================
    You know what. I am realizing there is nothing that will really change this thing. No point in getting upset. Davis is in charge and its his team to do as HE wishes.

    I guess he enjoys this mess. Last ditch efforts to shore up the D-Line…letting players run amok in an undisciplined and unstructured manner, swapping out coaches and every other negative you can think of.

    I am just going to watch. Its really not worth getting all that upset about this stuff.

    I wish I didn’t get tickets to a couple of road games this year…but the experience will be fun

  164. Brien the General Says:

    If the Raiders had even a decent QB they would be 2-1………..who knows 3-0. Russell doesnt have it. Guy is not an NFL qb

  165. tazZraider Says:

    Dude Says:
    September 27th, 2009 at 9:26 pm
    Russells post game comments are stunning. Is he crazy or just really, REALLY dumb??

    ———————
    dude,

    t think hes both and thats why i want to strangle him.

  166. Brien the General Says:

    SnB, I hear ya and there arent as many big Al followers as I am but wins and losses is what its about. Team isnt winning and the franchise QB is a collosal bust

  167. vegas raider Says:

    Cable said. “The bottom line is I could have called a better play.”

    ***************************

    Uhh…you think so Tom? The D just gets a great goalline stuff, our first drive we threw 2 passes and went 3 and out……and he starts off throwing 2 more passes. One almost gets picked, the next one does.

    Your supposed to protect your young struggling QB, not throw him to the wolves. 4 passes on the first 5 plays, un-bleeping-believable!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  168. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Here’s the deal. The SEC and Big 12 are the WORST places to go for a QB. I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again.

    The SEC and Big 12 have superior talent and run college offenses. Because the South is ga-ga for college football, the coaches there are 100% focused on winning college games. So the coach isn’t teaching fundamentals…and the superior talent allows for a large margin or error and really no need to lear the finer points of QB play.

    Name me the starting QBs from the SEC/Big 12 not named Manning. Why? Because if two brothers emerge from the same household and both are Super Bowl QBs….its more likely its the NFL QB father and not the great coaching in the SEC.

    Graham Herrel didn’t even get drafted.

    Sanchez will outperform Stafford…because Sanchez played in a pro-style offense.

    You want a QB? Go to the North and the West…stay away from the south

  169. Dude Says:

    Russells post game comments are stunning. Is he crazy or just really, REALLY dumb??

  170. Brien the General Says:

    It is bad when your college teammate who made huge catches for you dog you out in the media

  171. alisgod Says:

    Dude Says:
    September 27th, 2009 at 9:16 pm
    Did someone just say Chris Johnson can hang with Andre Johnson?? LOL… Only in Raiderland.
    —————–

    Yeah I said it you stupid fck! Go look up last year’s game when Houston was red hot coming to town. We have the best shut down starting corner tandem in the league period. We got killed by gaffney over the middle time and again today you dumb fck! When they involve a 3rd wideout and we go to Routt we get killed.

  172. Brien the General Says:

    # Dude Says:
    September 27th, 2009 at 9:26 pm

    Russells post game comments are stunning. Is he crazy or just really, REALLY dumb??
    *****************

    I cant believe you asked that question. Guy is a southern hick laid back hillbilly who doesn’t give a damn. Calling him dumb would be a compliment

  173. RaiderSam Says:

    let me just say this
    2009 – 1 – 2
    2008 – 1 – 2
    2007 – 1 – 2

    This team always starts slow, has poor performances, and the finger pointing will start, as well as the hatchet jobs by former players (current analysts). This thing isnt coming to an end until the Raiders note the fast starts of Falcons in 2008 Jets in 2009…get a proven GM revamp the scouting and get some leadership at some point

  174. Brien the General Says:

    # vegas raider Says:
    September 27th, 2009 at 9:26 pm

    Cable said. “The bottom line is I could have called a better play.”

    ***************************

    Uhh…you think so Tom? The D just gets a great goalline stuff, our first drive we threw 2 passes and went 3 and out……and he starts off throwing 2 more passes. One almost gets picked, the next one does.

    Your supposed to protect your young struggling QB, not throw him to the wolves. 4 passes on the first 5 plays, un-bleeping-believable!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    ***************************

    Just idiotic by Cable. His play calling has alot of guts to it but lacks any thought

  175. Brien the General Says:

    Routt stinks but dammit who are we gonna put out there? Bowie? lol

  176. ragin Says:

    Linebackers still suck

  177. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    30-MILLION GUARENTEED DUMB…

  178. alisgod Says:

    Brien,

    You said it best. Cable has the guts but he lacks the wisdom to realize that his Jabustus is not able to execute on those plays. We need to be as conservative as possible on offense. I hate to say this but Cable should take a page out of Jimmy Raye’s playcalling. Shaun hill is no Peyton and they just do what’s best for them. run run run.

  179. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Tom Cable is awful as a coordinator. Awful.

    All deep throws and inconsistent use of the running game…..perhaps Kiffin should be brought back…sigh

  180. Brien the General Says:

    # alisgod Says:
    September 27th, 2009 at 9:33 pm

    Brien,

    You said it best. Cable has the guts but he lacks the wisdom to realize that his Jabustus is not able to execute on those plays. We need to be as conservative as possible on offense. I hate to say this but Cable should take a page out of Jimmy Raye’s playcalling. Shaun hill is no Peyton and they just do what’s best for them. run run run.
    *********************

    Yep sad to say it but here in the bay area….it aint even close what team is better.

  181. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Jimmy Raye doesn’t throw bombs all game.

    Jimmy Raye uses the run to set up the pass

    Jimmy Raye knows the strenghts and weaknesses of his roster.

    Jimmy Raye works for Mike Singletary…and Mike Singeltary is the boss.

    Jimmy Raye wouldn’t work here. The owner would give him directives he would have to carry out

  182. alisgod Says:

    I think Cable is a very good headman and motivator but he should definitely stay off playcalling. After 3 weeks, i have not seen him use any creativity to help Jabustus out

  183. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Mike Singletary…100% autonomy to mold the team

    Tom Cable…free reign with the O-Line

  184. Brien the General Says:

    SnB, if we would just give a steady dose of Dmac and Bush instead of forcing the pass with Russell the offense may do something but Cable is a dumb ass

  185. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Alisgod,

    Sadly, and I hate to say it, but your moniker has to change

  186. Brien the General Says:

    Yep Singletary is the boss because he is still in shape and prolly would beat half the roster up in a street fight

  187. Brien the General Says:

    “I want winners”………..someone needs to do that to Russell

  188. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Brien the General Says:
    September 27th, 2009 at 9:37 pm
    SnB, if we would just give a steady dose of Dmac and Bush instead of forcing the pass with Russell the offense may do something but Cable is a dumb ass
    ======================================================
    Maybe we were better off with Kiffin. Because that’s pretty much what he would do.

  189. Dude Says:

    Chaz Schillens is the savior?? LOL! I mean he is working on going to his 5th consecutive Pro Bowl afterall. Funny stuff.

  190. Brien the General Says:

    It would have been better if Cable had the power to send Russell to the locker room because he wasnt do much to help the team.

  191. Brien the General Says:

    No way to Kiffin. He was the same guy who elected to play garbage wideouts and then start Kwame the lame. Kiffin was too immature and is a snot nosed brat. Let him stay in college

  192. Richochet Says:

    DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
    September 27th, 2009 at 9:31 pm
    30-MILLION GUARENTEED DUMB…
    =========
    Correction.
    32 million guaranteed.
    Uber-dumb

  193. Brien the General Says:

    Russell<———- cant work with him

    Russell<———- cant play with him

    Russell<———- cant win with him

  194. alisgod Says:

    Oh please stop with Kitten comments. The sucker has yet to show he can win at any level.

    Brien, nah I like my moniker. Sink or swim I am loyal to the man until he dies. Al’s best is also his worst. I expected us to be 1 year away before we can compete until we brought in Seymour. I still feel we are goign to get better. With Chaz back next week, I think we will do much better on offense.

  195. Dude Says:

    Awful lot of checkdowns and TE work for a offense that isnt “dumbed down”. The offense the Raiders are running is a simple as it gets. Looks like a high school offense. No audibles, no motion, no shifts, no bootlegs, nothing. The offense couldnt be a “dumber”.

  196. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Brien the General Says:
    September 27th, 2009 at 9:40 pm
    It would have been better if Cable had the power to send Russell to the locker room because he wasnt do much to help the team.
    =======================================================
    For who though? Playing an old veteran is a waste of time.

    Gradkowski and Frye were both cut by two of the worst teams in the league. So it would be insane to give them the keys to the franchise.

    You have to let Russell sink or swim…maybe he doesn’t care or maybe he does…but it would literally be a throw away season to play those two tomato cans behind him.

  197. Brien the General Says:

    AlisGod……..i never told you to change your moniker

  198. Brien the General Says:

    SnB……..im talking just like singletary did to Vernon Davis. It go the team’s attention if you didnt notice

  199. alisgod Says:

    Here is the thing when Grakowski came in on that MOnday, Cable simplified the offense and had him doing dump offs and we were able to move the ball.

    When Russell is in there, Cable seem to want to stretch the ball down field. I wished he would just dumb down the offense to get Russell in a rythm. Sometimes I wonder if Cable ever understands how to get a QB in rythm.

  200. alisgod Says:

    Sorry Brien I meant SNB

  201. Brien the General Says:

    Russell<——will probably laugh at the comments on the blog. Finds them hilarious I bet

  202. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    WHat the hell do they do in practice?

    In the preseason/training camp

  203. Brien the General Says:

    It was so bad today my boy Norco bob had to pop 3 norcos just to get over that imbecilic performance today

  204. Brien the General Says:

    Russell<——-does he know the muffin man?

    Russell<——doesnt know how to play QB in the NFL

  205. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Davis creates this environment where these top players just fail.

    He needs to let the coach be the final authority and he needs to get football players and not just collect athletes

  206. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Brien the General Says:
    September 27th, 2009 at 9:46 pm
    SnB……..im talking just like singletary did to Vernon Davis. It go the team’s attention if you didnt notice
    =====================================================
    Do you honestly think Davis would let his coaches berate a player like that?

  207. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Dude Says:
    September 27th, 2009 at 9:40 pm
    Chaz Schillens is the savior?? LOL! I mean he is working on going to his 5th consecutive Pro Bowl afterall. Funny stuff.
    =======================================================What other choice do we have. Sitting on this blog and being negative kinda sucks. I’ve been ranting all day…So Schilens IS the only shot we have left to kickstart this team.

    Seymour couldn’t do it? Asomugha couldn’t do it? and our esteemed coaching staff and QB couldn’t do it.

    Maybe Schilens can be that guy.

    Next week might just be the last game of the year.

    Then the blog is all yours

  208. Brien the General Says:

    SnB………..aint nada bout to change with Al. When you are a person like he is you are too stubborn to change especially when you know the end is near

  209. Dude Says:

    I like Chaz, but he is nowhere near a savior. The dude hasnt even played a whole NFL season yet. A bit of rational thinking please.

    DHB and Murphy had to be separated on the sidelines.
    Murphy refused to talk post game.
    Seymour refused to talk post game.

    Yep, all is well. LOL!

  210. Brien the General Says:

    I like Schilens and I was by myself ast year yelling for the guy to play but nonetheless people are putting way too much on his return. Russell isnt good and I dont care if Chaz is back. Russell aint handling biz

  211. raidercirca70 Says:

    Al davis is a part of the problem, but he isn’t 50 lbs. overweight JR is. Al Davis isn’t droping the ball every other quarter DMAC is. DHB is a project and should be treated as such, he should be a third down receiver when they go to three or four wide and that’s it. He is simply not ready. If we can see that how it it possible that the coaches can’t see it? I defened JR for 2 plus years, but I can’t anymore. I don’t think he cares and its obvious that he does not work on his game. I think the day that he signed that contract he got everythng that he wanted out of the NFL. I don’t think that he is stupid its just not important to him and based on what he has shown us there is no reasn to beleive that he will get any better. Eventually he will be replaced but we’re stuck with him for the rest of 2009. The problem with the defense is design. For three straight weeks the linebackers have bailed out of the middle of the field and for three straight weeks the opposing qb just dumps the ball behind the defensive line. If I can see this sitting in my living room why can’t the defesive coaches? They just keep doing the same thing and expect different results its very frustrating. Sometimes I wish that I could root for another team but I just can’t…when will it end…they don’t even look like an NFL team…

  212. Brien the General Says:

    Murphy is dope for getting in his face! DHB has played 3 games and hasnt done a damn thing to justify that high draft slot. Too bad no one will have the balls to get in Russell’s face and tell him he is sucking.

  213. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    A loss next week and that will pretty much be all for me for the year.

    Too much negative energy and thinking with this B.S and I am not going to waste time watching a train wreck.

    next week is it. Let’s see what they can do.

    I like to think that those young guys have the pride and commitment to put forth a good effort.

    I am putting all my hope in Schilens right now. Sort of like when you are down to the last $30 at the blackjack table…

  214. alisgod Says:

    there’s something you guys miss about Russell. At LSU, Russel had Bowe as his top dog and that guy fights for the ball. Go look at Russell’s highlight reels in LSU. He was never that accurate.

    Late last season, Russell started throwing to Chaz and Higgins even when they were not open yet and they adjusted to the balls. That is how we started scoring against Houston and Tampa and that opened up the running game.

    This season you’ve heard Russell talks about going up and fighting for the ball like Chaz does. You heard Cable complains about how Russell has to throw the ball rather than wait for his receiver to get open.

    Chaz aint the savior but you know what. Certain players become the key to their side of the ball. Seymour certainly made our D line much better. Bob Sanders make the colts D much better over the years. Ten wins a lot more with Albert Haynesworth in there (look up last years stats). Everyone is saying how much Dawkins is making a difference in Denvers D. I guarantee you that Russell will perform better when Chaz gets back. Either against Houston or the game after regardless of who we play.

  215. Brien the General Says:

    This just pure garbage man

  216. NoMoreFargas Says:

    I don’t know whats worse that Russell sucks so bad or that he held out and we paid him jeez and how many TD did DHB catch in college man could have had harvin and murphy. Yeah bad play calling we should treat a 3yr qb like a baby and just run 60 plays a game. Why not pound it more with Bush?

  217. Dude Says:

    Murphy probably looks at DHB and thinks to himself…

    “This clown gets paid HOW MUCH more than me??”

  218. alisgod Says:

    Brien, that goaline stand was key early in the game. We should have pounded the rock rather than come out throwing. It was a huge momentum swing. The silverlining is it has been a very long time for me to recall the last time our Dline put together a couple of goaline stands.

  219. Brien the General Says:

    NoMoreFargas………..well I thought able would have used Bush after we stopped the broncos on the goaline but nope.

  220. Brien the General Says:

    My god how much are you guys expecting out of Schilens in Houston. Mind you the guy hasnt played since the first preseason game. He isnt about to go out there and tear it up for 150 yards and 2 TDs

  221. Raider75 Says:

    Raiders better come through against Houston. I am missing a day at work and driving 3 hours to watch the game. lol

    Last time I went to Houston to watch them, Collins blew a halftime lead by throwing 2 picks and Houston pulled out the win.

  222. Brien the General Says:

    “No, I don’t think so, because when you play the way we played against San Diego and then you get a win against Kansas City, then you put out the effort you put out today, I think there’s some glaring problems that need to be fixed, in all phases of the game. So I don’t think we have quite a read on who we are. And that’s concerning, cause at this point you want to know what type of team you are and have an idea of what the outcome is gonna be, based on who you’re playing.”

    – Cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha on whether he’s able to figure out what type of team the Raiders have after three weeks
    ******************************

    Oh my god

  223. alisgod Says:

    no he’s not Brien.

    But he should give us a few first downs, which will remove the 8-9 in the box, which will result in a better rushing offense, which will score a few more points and give the D more rest. That ultimately can be the key to winning the next game.

  224. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Brien the General Says:
    September 27th, 2009 at 10:11 pm
    My god how much are you guys expecting out of Schilens in Houston. Mind you the guy hasnt played since the first preseason game. He isnt about to go out there and tear it up for 150 yards and 2 TDs
    =====================================================
    Brien,

    This is lowest point I’ve ever felt as a Raider fan so I am grasping at straws. This might be my last game next week.

    I will start watching other teams and focus on fantasy football (what a joke).

    I put it all on Schilens because I want to hope they can win.

    I can’t watch week after week and be content because Al Davis is in charge. I could care less about ownership. I want wins. I want a reason to watch.

    So I will hope Schilens can right the ship and give Russell a huge target that even he can’t overthrow

  225. raidercirca70 Says:

    No one else is to blame for JR being a horrible QB. If I suck at my job its not my supervisor’s fault or the CEO’s fault; its on me. You have to take pride in what you do, you have to care. JR’s goal was to get rich, not become a great football player. The raiders should have sensed this before they drafted him. If they have the courage to admit that they made a bad decision and either bench or dump this guy, they can repair this situation and move on. There is a lot of talent on this team and if they had just an average qb they would at least be a .500 football team. I think they should identify a serviceable veteran qb in free agency to start next year (Derek Anderson) and try to develop a young qb.

  226. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    The boos cascaded from the stands as soon as the second of Russell’s passes intercepted by the Broncos landed in the arms of cornerback Andre Goodman and remained constant throughout the rest of the game.
    Things reached a peak when the fans chanted “Russell sucks! Russell sucks! Russell sucks!” midway through the final quarter. At one point, wide receiver Louis Murphy motioned to the fans to cool the noise – Raiderbeat.com
    =======================================================
    The fans are turning against the team and it will get ugly from here on out if they can’t win that game next week. I am telling you. And I am about to join them if they can’t fix this.

    What a bunch of quitters this team is developing into

  227. raidercirca70 Says:

    The Raiders could have drafted Big Ben, Eli, or Rivers…they drafted Gallery.

  228. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    raidercirca70 Says:
    September 27th, 2009 at 10:14 pm
    No one else is to blame for JR being a horrible QB. If I suck at my job its not my supervisor’s fault or the CEO’s fault; its on me. You have to take pride in what you do, you have to care. JR’s goal was to get rich, not become a great football player. The raiders should have sensed this before they drafted him. If they have the courage to admit that they made a bad decision and either bench or dump this guy, they can repair this situation and move on. There is a lot of talent on this team and if they had just an average qb they would at least be a .500 football team. I think they should identify a serviceable veteran qb in free agency to start next year (Derek Anderson) and try to develop a young qb.
    =======================================================
    Al Davis hasn’t developed a QB in 33 yrs. Derek Anderson is garbage

    Sign Losman

  229. Brien the General Says:

    Please……..hope all you must. Houston has a good offense and are quite pissed about losing at home both times they have played this year. Next week is a game I highly doubt we win. Sorry but I’m being honest

  230. Culebra Says:

    That goal line stance was pretty sweet, but we wouldn’t have been in that position if we would’ve played run defense and made those bastards punt. That defense got soft fast.

  231. pbcee Says:

    Ah, the Raiders. Remember we don’t own this team fellas. Al does. All I know is I would crawl into the same hole that Osama Bin Laden is making coffee in right now if my name was attached to anything that played at the Colisuem today. SMH.

  232. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    raidercica70,

    Its not just Russell that the Raiders are failing at. What about that clown of a running back in Darren McFadden. He’s as big a joke as the rest of the team is showing right now

  233. raidercirca70 Says:

    What if they had drafted Brady Quinn?

  234. Brien the General Says:

    Get ugly? SnB I was there today. People in the parking lot before the game were already prepared to boo Russell. It is past ugly.

  235. Dark Forces Says:

    The raiders could have drafted Sanchez ffs. Gradowski gives us a much better chance to win than Russell right now.

  236. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Do you guys honestly think a young QB with good prospects would sign with the Raiders….they will all pull a John Elway/Eli Manning.

    This team is screwed because you can’t win in this league without a long-term solution to the QB position.

    We are in big trouble.

    JP Losman, Rex Grossman are the top candidates. THey have starting experience and are still young enough to be a long-term solution. Plus they have had some success…..going back to the junk pile to find a solution…and you wonder why we haven’t done %#$@ in 30 years

  237. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Brien the General Says:
    September 27th, 2009 at 10:21 pm
    Get ugly? SnB I was there today. People in the parking lot before the game were already prepared to boo Russell. It is past ugly.
    ====================================================
    I am about to quit this thing myself too. Can’t take this endless cycle of B.S

  238. Brien the General Says:

    Darren McFadden is a big joke? Please no bigger joke than Cornell Green or Jamarcus Russell. Dmac is fine but needs to stop the fumbling shyt ASAP. Calling a guy a clown who played injured and didnt hold out on us is very wrong of you SnB. At least Dmac gives a damn about winning

  239. Brien the General Says:

    JP Losman and Rex Grossman? LOL do you hear yourself right now?

  240. Brien the General Says:

    I’m not gonna quit on my team but I wont lie and say things are all good cuz they arent

  241. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Brien the General Says:
    September 27th, 2009 at 10:26 pm
    JP Losman and Rex Grossman? LOL do you hear yourself right now?
    ======================================================
    Michael Vick would be an option as well…..what would you suggest?

  242. Richochet Says:

    Watching Singletary, and watching Cable?
    About as far apart as a head coach you can get.
    Like the announcer said “Singletary’s gotten in his coaches face, his players face, and the ref’s”
    Brien the Bonehead is right.
    No one looks at Cable as being anything else except a big pudgy teddy bear. Put a couple of round ears on him, and you have Winnie the Pooh.
    Week one against AZ, Hill was struggling. While barking at Hill on the sideline, you see Singletary yell over at Smith to “Put your helmet on. Get ready to go in.”

    Hell went back in and looked sharp as hell. Marched down the field with crisp throws, and Niners got the go ahead score.
    Had Hill struggled in that series, he was going on the bench. And he knew it.

    That’s the problem with the Raiders..NO ONE IS AFRAID OF GETTING BENCHED.

    What Russell stated last week, and today is about as big an insult you can slap on your fellow players, especially when he’s played like he did.

    I MEAN..how in the hell CAN HE BE SATISFIED WITH HIS PROGRESSION?

  243. Brien the General Says:

    SnB……..suggest? lol. There is no solution to this problem. Dont you get it? Al will keep Russell until the rapture

  244. raidercirca70 Says:

    I don’t think the losing bothers these guys at all. We care more than they do.

  245. Brien the General Says:

    I really want to hear BHP give us his synopsis are today’s embarrassing showing.

  246. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    raidercirca70 Says:
    September 27th, 2009 at 10:21 pm
    What if they had drafted Brady Quinn?
    ================================================
    Are you effin serious? Quinn and Russell are going to be watching games together real soon!

  247. Brien the General Says:

    # raidercirca70 Says:
    September 27th, 2009 at 10:30 pm

    I don’t think the losing bothers these guys at all. We care more than they do.
    ***************

    Yeah well you prolly wouldnt care either if you had all the drugs and whores at your request in California

  248. Brien the General Says:

    # SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
    September 27th, 2009 at 10:32 pm

    raidercirca70 Says:
    September 27th, 2009 at 10:21 pm
    What if they had drafted Brady Quinn?
    ================================================
    Are you effin serious? Quinn and Russell are going to be watching games together real soon!
    ************************

    That would be a dream for Quinn

  249. Brien the General Says:

    Well guys I’m out. Bad day. The weekend was great for me right up until 1:20 PT. Good nite

  250. Brien the General Says:

    # Sir Dennis Eeatin-Hog Says:
    September 27th, 2009 at 8:04 pm

    I can understand after a 3-fumble game the hate going on for DMac, but why the lovefest for Bush? Many of you are calling for Bush to get 25 carries … really? Through 3 games, DMAC is averaging 13.6 carries per game while Bush is averaging 9.0, and both backs are averaging 2 receptions per game … seems to me the workload has been fairly even with a slight edge to DMAC.

    No question, 4 fumbles (2 lost) in 3 games is unaccapetable. But until DMAC is averaging 22-25 touches a game, the Raiders offense will continue to struggle to score. Bush is a nice back, but he is not a gamebreaker. DMAC must correct the fumblitis, but he ran hard and well today (15 yards on one carry, 10 on another, 5 on another, 5 on another, 4 or on another). Two of his fumbles cost him another 8 yards, so he gained a total of 53 yards on 12 carries not counting the lost yardage on fumbles.

    Didn’t DMAC break a tackle on a swing pass out of the backfield and pick up a first-down on a nice 7-yard gain? Didn’t he run physically in the red zone on consecutive plays before the lost fumble?

    I think JR has shown he is a bust. DMAC had a bad game, but he is no bust. And Bush certainly has not proven to be a more effective RB than McFadden.
    *********************************

    Best post of the day. Ken Stabler said this same thing months ago about dmac needing more touches. Now I’m gone

  251. Random Drug Tester Says:

    DMAC is being mis-used…he is not a pile-driver that can run between the tackles.

    Bush can pound it up the middle…pitch it outside to DMAC, make them cover the whole field, then put the ball where they ain’t.

    Janormus can’t seem to handle that complex of a play-book apparently.

  252. Random Drug Tester Says:

    Gannon did his best not to say that Janormus preferred the shot-gun because he would get tired-out running from the snap to the pocket.

  253. raideralex99 Says:

    Well after 40 years of cheering for the Raiders … I am offically retiring … I have had enough of JaMarcus BS. To here Cable say they would never consider benching JR … blew me away. This is the ONLY QB who is below 50% but is one of the highest paid. This guy SHOULD NOT be in the NFL let alone starting. By the looks of it I am not alone … when I hear Bronco and Charger fans feeling sorry for us … that’s bad.
    I’ll be back next year … when JaMarcus is cut.

  254. Richochet Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    September 27th, 2009 at 9:17 pm
    Guys, 4evaRetard just blamed Gruden for how bad we are now. A study needs to be done on Davis shills. They’re by far the scariest people on the planet.
    ==========
    “Guys”??
    lol..what are you? In kindergarten? “hey..GUYS..LOOKY WHAT BILLY DID”

    Again, I was dead on exposing you as a Mama’s boy.
    Had no idea you are…actually..a bonified mama’s boy.

    The suspense builds on who you’re going to “tattle” on next.
    Oh hell..for fun? pass a note in study hall..be a real hoot.

  255. gilbert Says:

    How does a starting QB look SO BAD,both home games?Look,Ive been defending JRuss here and at work,starting to feel like HE is not worth it!And DMac,same thing! Just PISSED OFF,AGAIN

  256. Mistabrown Says:

    Oakglenn Says:
    June 8th, 2009 at 12:28 pm

    Anyone with half a brain can see that Jamarcus Russell is a bonafide franchise Q.

  257. Mistabrown Says:

    MR,
    How does that JaMeatball Russell jersey fit?

    You are #2 buddy!

  258. Mistabrown Says:

    Oakglen, you are a dumb POS!

  259. Oakglenn Says:

    # Mistabrown Says:
    September 27th, 2009 at 10:57 pm

    Oakglenn Says:
    June 8th, 2009 at 12:28 pm

    Anyone with half a brain can see that Jamarcus Russell is a bonafide franchise Q.
    =============================================

    Brady Quinn got benched. And your Cleveland Browns got rolled worse than the Raiders. But go Browns, right mista browns fan??

  260. gilbert Says:

    POST 257,Ive got Mr and Dakota tied,You come in at 51,period!

  261. Oakglenn Says:

    You can always tell the trolls because they offer no insight, they just come in to fight and argue with the Raider fans. Right mista browns fan?? BTW isn’t there a river on fire in Cleveland somewhere that needs your attention?

  262. Dark Forces Says:

    They should change this team’s name to the “Fraiders” cause they play scared. Falling down on phantom tackles, dropping the ball without being hit, tripping over defenders legs, shying away from the ball, they are scared of the ball or something. JaBustus can barely throw a screen pass. Meanwhile rookies Sanchez and Stafford are tearing it up, looking like veterans.

  263. Mistabrown Says:

    Oakglen, go ahead and defend JaMeatball now.

  264. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Sign Michael Vick in the offseason.

    The Raiders need a “draw in the sand” type of player that can improvise. The Raiders run an antique offense/defense that requires multiple pro-bowlers.

    Its really too bad they play like this.

    I guess Mistabrown, Richochet won! The blog is yours….Cya

  265. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Richochet and MB, you guys were right. I was totally wrong about Cable. He’s obviously another Davis puppet. Running the ball 20 times. As far as Russell goes, remember, I never said he was great. Just said he was good enough if we played smash mouth. I never really bought his jersey. What are you guys, stupid? I just said that to antagonize you guys.

  266. Mistabrown Says:

    Oakglen, go ahead and call me a Browns fan after you made a buffoon of yourself for the umteenth time..

  267. gilbert Says:

    MR,you now come in at 52,cuz youre a LIAR,Bs dude But who didnt know that!ME!!!!!! because I Forgot

  268. Mistabrown Says:

    J Russell is the saddest excuse for a Qb ever! But i’ll wait until week 8 to call him a bust.

  269. DarthPirate Says:

    Darren McFadden sucks. Enough of the fumbles and the wussy running style.

  270. On the beach in Cancun Says:

    After today’s misery, again, I’m ready to go back to Cancun and just stay on the beach. The clear, refreshing, aqua-blue water and the beautiful babes from all over the world to look at in their string bikini are hard to beat.
    That will be a lot better than watching our pathetic Raiders losing and losing. It’s especially outrages when we’re beat at home by a division team that traded their top-rated QB (Cutler), and has a new coaching staff and they beat us down like dogs (23-3)! Wow.

    I’ve waited over seven hours to post my comments because I would have been incoherent in my comments and opinions. I was at the Sports Bar, Events, in Riverside, and it was embarrassing to be cheering for the Raiders. Even some Charger and Steeler fans were feeling sorry for our sorry azzes.

    Jamarcus should man up and admit that he needs time and that he shouldn’t be the starting QB until he’s ready, if ever. We need to start Gradkowski or Frye…PERIOD.
    Cable should try and get an assistant coaching job at Iowa, where he was a big losing coach before. He’s not a head coach in any manner whatsoever. Coack Marshall and coach Hackett are has-beens…PERIOD. They need to retire.

    Al Davis…What can anyone say that hasn’t been said already. The guy is a freaking idiot, a senile moran, who will continue to run this team and franchise into the ground. From his little clouded mind, he feels he’s correct because of success in the past, though decades ago. His ego couldn’t handle the success with Gruden, as Al Davis needs to get all the attention, so he traded away a winner that came back and took his Super Bowl away from him and us in the process. As previously stated in these postings, today, by (The Real Madden Raider), Al Davis is a CANCER and he’s infecting us and the franchise with him. He doesn’t want to die along, he wants to take us all with him. And, like idiots, all of us loyal fans will be sucked away in the process. But, we deserve it, because we stick around like the fools that we are. All of us stinking, stupid fans. We such…no exceptions.

  271. Raiders4eve Says:

    Lets all rally or create a website asking Al Davis to sell his team or bench JR. I seriously think we need to bench DHB, JR and DMC, let Bush loose and Growtzki. Who can organize a rally?

  272. gilbert Says:

    271,speak for YOURSELF,JACKASS

  273. On the beach in Cancun Says:

    correction, lost post #271…last four words should read. WE SUCK, NO EXCEPTIONS!

  274. gilbert Says:

    POST274,Do what YOU do best,mrs

  275. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    The playcalling lost this game today, not Russell. The playcalling with Al Cancer’s signature all over it.

  276. On the beach in Cancun Says:

    post 273:

    Evidently, you can’t see the last seven years. What’s pathetic is your refusal to be honest to yourself and what has happened to our franchise because of Al Davis. But you’re entitled to your opinion and you have the right to feel otherwise. No problem. However, I rather be a jackass than an idiot, moran like you who can’t see, or just refuses to see, the big jack-hammer that Davis is ramming up your azz.

  277. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    On The Beach in Cancun is in his bath tub at his mothers’. If he wants to call it Cancun, fine.

  278. On the beach in Cancun Says:

    Real MaddenRaider:

    You need to get a life, you’ve been posting for 4 hours, you freaking idiot. Your mother doesn’t have a bathtub, so go to McDonalds and use the restroom. Oh, leave a job application, you’ll probably do good at flipping burgers.

  279. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Just messing with you, Cancun. You’re alright.

  280. Mistabrown Says:

    JaMeatloaf is a moral buster, he is bringing down this entire org….period

    He is not an NFL Qb. The players know this. Kiffin knew it. Cable knows it.

  281. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Is Houston still undefeated against us? Early prediction. Houston by 20.

  282. Mistabrown Says:

    The Coliseum will not be sold out again this IMO.

    We are going to be humiliated like never before on Thanksgiving Day unless Cable works a miracle!

    Good luck, Tom!

  283. Mistabrown Says:

    this year*

  284. Mistabrown Says:

    Who cares about Houstons record. We have a disaster brewing with this half wit Qb.

  285. gilbert Says:

    post 277,I will never experience that visual of youres,perhaps you have been living on the West side of the bay for much to long,mrs/mr

  286. On the beach in Cancun Says:

    good night guys, I’m too pissed to make sensible comments and I’m over reacting to replies. Later.

    PS: Davis sucks.

  287. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    You can watch the game on NFL.com if you didn’t see it. It says you have to be in the bay area market but they never asked me. I just clicked on it and it’s playing. crap quality, though.

    http://gamerewind.nfl.com/nflgr/servlets/inmarket?id=OAK&icampaign=Oak_Blackout_W3_ROS

  288. RAIDERMAN99 Says:

    Some observations about today’s debacle:

    Watched the game at the Atlantis sportsbook in Reno.

    It was obvious from the get go that the mules had a good game plan on offense. Isolate WRs against Morrison over the middle. Consistent completions and gains. Would Raids eventually adjust and stop this play ? Never happened. McDaniel’s offensive scheme outcoaches Marshall’s defensive scheme. Round 1 to mules easily.

    Raids dig in at goal line. Nice defensive stand when it mattered most. Maybe, just maybe, we can change the momentum.

    Then reality came crashing in.
    ==================================
    Cable took the blame for Russell’s first interception, having him throw the ball out of his own end zone.

    “I thought we could get them in a single-high safety and they bailed out to a two and Darrius fell down on that,” Cable said. “The bottom line is I could have called a better play.”
    =====================================
    Tom, I’ll give you credit for taking the heat, but there was nothing wrong with your play call. After the play-action, Russell literally had alllll day to throw. But what does Russell do ? He throws into double coverage and gets picked. Was someone open underneath ? Don’t know. At the very least, Russell could have thrown the ball away. Throwing the pick was inexcusable. Really took the air out of the team.

    Russell has been decent about throwing the ball away and avoiding picks. He’s also been lucky that several easy picks have been dropped. But that intereception showed Russell just doesn’t have a clue, and is not progressing at all. If anything, he’s regressing.

    About DMAC:

    His fumbling is inexcusable. That’s gotta be corrected and I think it will be. Did he have a prblm fumbling at Arkansas ? I don’t know.

    However, DMAC does have explosive speed and can be a game breaker. The Raids aren’t using him wisely. Too many runs by DMAC between the tackles. That should be
    Bush territory. DMAC goes down easily on contact and runs way too upright to be running up the middle. Get him outside and he’s a threat. Way too early to give up on DMAC, but he’s got to stop fumbling.

    On DHB:

    Hasn’t looked good so far. But how much of that is his fault ? Definitely needs to learn to run routes. Shows a willingness to block. The fact that Russell blows makes it very difficult to accurately evaluate DHB, and 3 games into his career it’s way too early to write him off.

    Projection for the rest of the season:

    This is obviously a team in trouble. The offense with Russell at the helm seems incapable of sustaining any prolonged drives and keeping an overtaxed and not that great of a defense off the field. The offensive line is not powerful and will not be able to get tough yards regardless of who is carrying the rock. Especially when defenses can overload against the run because of a non-existent passing attack.

    Run defense? Showing a very disturbing trend of reverting back to it’s old ineffective self after a promising debut against SD.

    Can this team improve ? I sure hope so. There’s an old adage that states ‘You’re rarely as good as you look in victory or as bad as you look in defeat’.

    Cable and company have their work cut out for them. The ship hasn’t sunk yet, but it sure as hell is listing badly.

    Got to at least have a good effort in Houston. Have to show some signs of life on offense. This season is in grave danger of going down the toilet like the previous six, despite some improvements in certain areas of the squad.

  289. priesttj Says:

    Raiderman99, I think it’s blatantly obvious that the passing game needs a ton of work. So why are we throwing out of the endzone early in the even before Russell demonstrated that he is going to havea decent day passing. That was DUMB!! let him get in some rythum first and then try something that risky.

    We must run the football until Russell getshis feet under him and that might not happen until after midseason. DMC has got to get his game on or we have to go to Bush…….period The lack of a running game is killing us.

  290. neilb Says:

    I always try to look for a positive after a defeat,but I can’t see one today.Inept is the word that comes to mind.Russell is done and should be benched,if Cable can’t see that then he should be out aswell.Take a look at how Kansas and Denver played D,and get used to it because every team will play the same way.”People in the box-make Russell beat us with his arm”.That’s what every D coach will be saying we come up against.Why ? Because Russell couldn’t hit water if he fell out of a boat.All we need is a QB who can protect the ball and throw for 150/200 yds a game.If I can see that on the other side of the world,why can’t Cable ?

    Upsets me to think there’s two ex-coaches with Superbowl rings in the booth and we’ve got sheep.

  291. neilb Says:

    Forgot about Cowher…..make that three.

  292. Florida Pete Says:

    i have to believe anger is the answer… whether you are a fan, a player or a coach…

    DHB needs to sit… he’s not ready… play him a few plays a game… but put someone in who can play…

    McFadden needs to be punished… he is a player… but you can’t play like that without consequences, so bench him for a game…

    Russell needs to be told that there will be a quick hook the rest of the way… no excuses… if he starts to struggle, he sits the bench the rest of the half or the game…

    we still need a DT, MLB, C, OG, ROT…

  293. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Where’s the Commissioner?

    Sigh…………

  294. Copenhagen_Fan Says:

    That was brutal!

    The weird thing is that both our Offense and Defense look exactly the same as the last 6 years!

    Same old same old. No matter what players we have, we look the same.

    1) Same short passes burning us over the middle.
    2) Same 20 yard in patterns.
    3) Same runs off tackle ripping us up.
    4) Same 2 WR’s deep down the field with no crossing patterns underneath.
    5) Same no RAC after catches.
    6) Same QB holding the ball 5 or more seconds.
    7) Same no effective blitzes that crush the opposing QB.
    8) Same 3 and out

  295. Copenhagen_Fan Says:

    New coaches, new players, but yet the SAME.

    Who’s to blame? OLD MAN CANCER! :-)

  296. neilb Says:

    I’m going to work today as flat as a fart.

  297. RaiderTW Says:

    McFadden is a bust, trade him & JR for one good DT! That’s all we would get for those two.

  298. Florida Pete Says:

    i don’t know if McFadden is a bust… but running him between the tackles with the o-line we now have… i.e. minus Gallery, and with the existing right side… is a waste of effort…

    you need a heavy duty back to do that… i.e. MBush…

    i’m going to be i.e.’ing today…

    yesterday’s game really sucked… i.e. the defense is playing down to the offense’s ineptitude… i.e. our defense is starting to suck just as badly…

    note: i have copyrighted the use of “i.e.”… i.e. all use of this term by others on this blog means they must send me 25 cents…

  299. 4evaRaider Says:

    Good Morning NATION

    lots of work still need 2B done soo Work Harder

    Hopefully Jmac NOW realizes that an off-season regiment is a GOOD idea

  300. neilb Says:

    Florida Pete,how much is that in pence ?

  301. neilb Says:

    It’s a deal!!

    The Raiders are inept i.e. they came out of that game with nothing.Nothing.

    Houston,Giants,Philly and the Jets are the next four games…..does anyone expect us to get anything from them ?

    If Cable can’t see what the problem is i.e.Russell,hr should go as well.

  302. dave r Says:

    i tought we were gonna turn it around this week man was i wrong the run dfnse starting look like last years and as we all know the offense is just plain pathetic and will stay pathetis as long as AD keeps his hand in it nice first round pick 1 catch in three games oh yea he can run 4.3 forty my boys son is a sophmore in high school he just ran a high 4.4 at 15 years old u want his number maybe u will sign him too jruss is bad but he aint r only problem dmacfumble not enough bush horrible play calling on both sides i can go on and on i just im sick of this crap

  303. Florida Pete Says:

    neilb Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 5:36 am
    Florida Pete,how much is that in pence ?

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    er… um… send me 25 of those things…

  304. neilb Says:

    Do the Oakland Raiders manage the clock on this site ?

    Of to work….see you later….

  305. riderm Says:

    This isn’t good. We have two major issues:

    1. We have no QB
    2. The receivers we have are rookies

    This is a recipe for disaster!

    Why are people so against Fargas? I don’t understand this at all. I’ve always liked him. Dude is tough! Unfortunately he got injured, but when 100%, he is the best back we have.

    Here’s the sad thing about our QB situation…We would absolutely 100% be getting more production right now from Josh McCown. There’s no doubt about it. More production at about $400,000 a season (or whatever he was making) compared to the millions-upon-millions Jamarcus is making. Sad!

  306. Bobby Bushay Says:

    It’s simple, really. The first game, we were smacking the Chargers in the mouth all game long on both sides of the line. Clearly, the team needs that effort each and every week. Did they put all of their effort into being physical the first game of the year, and then take a vacation from it? That attitude is contagious, and coach needs to get back to that element and also show some emotion on the sidelines. They haven’t responded well to an easy hand, so bring out the ol’ iron fist approach. This is ridiculous!!!

  307. Florida Pete Says:

    work harder???

    no…

    put the fear of god in these so called stars…

    bench ‘em…

    start Russell next week… replace him if he isn’t getting it… humiliate him… make him pick up towels and sweep floors…

    mcdaddy… bench him for one game… bet he gets the message…

    hayward-bey just isn’t ready… bench him…

    show routt the door…

    russell needs to lose about 15 pounds… get him a babysitter if that’s what’s needed… i.e. carrying around an extra 20 pounds of dead weight can’t be helpful… and, no, i’m not refering to the mass between his ears… (although i wouldn’t blame you if that’s what you thought)…

  308. hwnrdr Says:

    Good Morning Nation!!!
    For those of you who have seen the movie “Surrogates” with Bruce Willis this weekend…My friend and fellow die hard Nation member had this to say…”Dear JaMarcus, please don’t let your surrogate play for you anymore. We need you to show up!” I don’t know, just thought that this was funny!!! I think that, like the dog races where the rabbit is flying by as the dogs chase him, there should be a 4X4 burger from In N Out flying on the sidelines and just have Russell run after it!!!

  309. RaiderTW Says:

    Sorry too, pete gotta disagree with you, McFaddy at #4 overall…..BUST. Maybe with another team but he owes the Raiders 2 seasons with Adrian Petersen type runs. That being said, where do you think I stand on JR picked at #1. Time for d!cking around is over!!!

  310. dave r Says:

    sorry pete gotta disagree with you there aint nothing between russells ears

  311. hwnrdr Says:

    Bobby Bushay said it best…we were smacking the Chargers in the mouth on Monday night…what happened to that kind of play, attitude, etc?

  312. NoMoreFargas Says:

    Sorry no way fargas is better than Bush, When Russell couldn’t hit his WR in training camp with no D we should have know their would be trouble, why oh why did we get Walker instead of I.Bruce lot cheaper and smarter and still getting it done.
    Browns,Rams,Redskins,Chiefs,Raiders,Lions those are just awful teams.

  313. Chris in NY Says:

    Easy to blame Russel for everything. And he definitely deserves the largest share of blame for this loss, but: McFadden kills us with fumbles, DHB falls down on a route, the defense can’t get off the field, the offense can’t stay on the field, nobody makes a big play, just an AWFUL, AWFUL, AWFUL team effort.

    This loss was sickening. Nothing good to take from it.

    I’m out. I’ve just about had it with this BS. Wake me when (if) the Raiders win another game.

  314. NoMoreFargas Says:

    Bucs suck too. How about 8+mins left 23-3 and they give up to save Russell from anymore int and just ran up the gut and screens, way to thank the crowd we spent 32 mill on a knucklehead move over Marinavoich you just got passed as the all-time worst pick at QB>

  315. RaiderTW Says:

    Hell, NoMoreFargas, we coulda had Wade. Look how good he was for KC against us. Hell, anyone would be better than what we’ve had the last 2 yrs. Sorry Dakota, McFadden is a BUST!!!!

  316. NoMoreFargas Says:

    P.Buchanon over Ed Reed
    Gallery over Big Ben
    Jruss over A.Peterson
    Huff over H.Ngata

    And we wonder why we have stunk so long

  317. El Tato Says:

    DHB – deep threat -> longest 18 yards

    McFadden – he can score from anywhere -> longest run 15 yards

    JaMarcus – can throw 80 yards bombs -> every bomb he throws is either intercepted or nearly intercepted

  318. Charlie Says:

    Any one who really thought that a WR or RB (Dmac/DBB) were what JR needs to be effective needs to remain silent and suffer along as we play through this with our young skill guys.

    I have been saying it since 2002, we must draft lineman with our first two picks in the draft.

    Guys like Murphy and Schillens are available in rounds four and seven.

    Guys like Ryan Clady are not.

    It is not possible to evaluate skill level talent until you have a line that can create time and space.

    Carlisle, Morris, Pears and Green are reserves on most NFL teams. The only hope we have is to scale things back like we did at the end of last season. Use some rollouts, screens, quick slants etc and try to run as best we can.
    To think we will have a vaunted vertical game is silly given our Oline.

  319. El Tato Says:

    Russell and McFadden are looking awful, but DHB is even worse

  320. vegas raider Says:

    Russell, D-Mac and DHB, the anti-triplets.

    D-Mac is not an elite back, and is more of a change of pace. It doesn’t take long for RB’s to excel in the NFL, they aren’t QB’s. Has he had one run where you said, “Ah-Ha…that is why he was the #4 pick”? Not really.

    And DHB, he was panned as a #7 pick, but everyone said he was the premier “go up and get jump balls” WR in the draft. I have yet to see him even jump and get a hand on the ball. Why on earth is he starting?

    But hey, Mike Mitchell looked good!!! lol

  321. DirtyBathWater Says:

    cable is an ass…. he’d rather start a rookie who’s not ready over a proven vet who says he is healthy enough to play…..ass…… play callling is totally predictable, run a few times try a screen throw deep, cmmon cable you call a deep route in ur endzone? Ass…… defense, how u like them lbs matched up with recievers? No adjustments asssssHolleeee!!!

  322. nevadaraider Says:

    I’ve wanted to believe the Cable and Davis BS about “this is a talented team that just needs coaching” but the sad fact is, how many of our starters could start on more than half of the teams in the league?

    OFF – Gallery, ZMiller, maybe McFadden?
    DEF – Seymour, Ellis, Howard?, Asomugha

    There just isn’t a lot of true talent there unfortunately.

  323. nevadaraider Says:

    And I’ve finally had it with Russell. I wanted Calvin Johnson, but now we know Adrian Peterson was the best player in that draft. Still, picking CJ and later Matt Ryan would have been great picks, but hindsight is 20-20.

    Can we please consider something besides arm strength and 40 yard dash times when we select? Maybe we should consider: Are they good football players? Can they compete at this level?

  324. Charlie Says:

    Our skill guys are not playing Louisiana Tech or Vanderbilt any more.
    This is the NFL.

    Without superior offensive line play our “phenoms” become very ordinary.

    Shell,Upshaw,Otto,Buehler,Lawrence are why we won football games in the past.

    I would hope by now most fans would see this.

  325. DirtyBathWater Says:

    Choosing Ryan wouldn’t have been any different given the circumstances, no qb can survive here so shoulda woulda coulda just not making it good

  326. hwnrdr Says:

    I agree Vegas…Russell had all the time in the world. What gets me is that our D stuffed Denver on 4th and goal from the 1…and then…what is funny is that if that was Aso out there getting tangled with Brandon Marshall or Eddie Royal and they fell down…that would be a pass interference!
    As for Dmac…dam dude! This is your second year in the NFL…HOLD ON TO THAT ROCK!!!!

  327. riderm Says:

    I Think DHB can grow and become better. I think. Time will tell.

    I hate to say it guys, but it might be a “what you see, is what you get” with Jamarcus. That’s scary. I’m an LSU Grad, and really want to see the kid excel, but I don’t think it’s going to happen. Would it be that big of a surprise if he doesn’t? Not really. You guys realize how many kids coming out of college don’t make it in the NFL? A lot. Tim Couch, Ryan Leaf, Akili Smith, etc etc etc. It happens all the time. Jamarcus could very well be one of those guys.

    And here’s the thing…they keep talking about the different coordinators he’s had and all that. Whatever. I got to believe that at some point, raw talent has got to take over. It has to. For him, it hasn’t. That’s what is scary!

  328. vegas raider Says:

    Charlie,

    Russell has had good pass protection in the KC and SD game, and decent protection in the first half yesterday.

    His first pick yesterday, he had all the time in the world, sitting in his own end zone, never got touched……..and threw the ball into double-coverage to get picked.

    What do you what the O-line to do? They creat holes, D-Mac gets to the next level and fumbles, or never breaks a tackle.

  329. dave r Says:

    charlie ur right we should have drafted lineman before skill guys this goes back to AD gallery is his last line man picked in the 1st round bust not really but not we we wanted we should have drafted monroe in the 1st round and brack in the 2nd but nothing we can do about it now we r in a world of crap but the most disturbing thing is where is the intensity we had against the chargers

  330. vegas raider Says:

    Less than 3 yards an attempt for Mr. Russell. Pitiful.

    But hey, I’m sure DHB did a great job clearing out the safety!!!

  331. Thec07 Says:

    What up NATION Brethren??? Hope all you guys are doing ok after the debacle. Hope you didnt go nuke and blow up where you live. 13 games left, we will see what happens….

  332. Trolls 35 Raiders 0 Says:

    I :cool: don’t know what to telly you guys :?: A chain is only as strong as it’s weakest link :oops:

  333. dave r Says:

    as far as oline and dline go all consistently good teams build from the inside out

  334. nevadaraider Says:

    While I think Russell’s receivers have hurt him some, a QB in his third season has got to be farther along than this. I will wait to pass final judgment because I know our best receivers are hurt, but I think our top four WRs are Schillens, Murphy, Walker, and Higgins. DHB should get spot duty or return kicks.

  335. RaiderTW Says:

    One thing that’s over looked is we need play from these guys that go above & beyond because the refs will screw us every game. How many holding calls did the Donkeys get? I see them EVERY week & they don’t get holding called. They got away with a pick on the 2nd INT. Even Gannon announced a few calls the Donkeys got away with” we can’t win normal games much less the refs bias too.

  336. nevadaraider Says:

    I think that at six (seven?) straight seasons of this crap, we are finally going to see the Raider Nation speak with their money. I doubt there will be anything close to a sellout the rest of the season. Will that be enough to get Al out or at least change? Drive the franchise in to bankruptcy through a boycott.

  337. Thec07 Says:

    vegas raider Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 6:26 am
    Less than 3 yards an attempt for Mr. Russell. Pitiful.

    But hey, I’m sure DHB did a great job clearing out the safety!!!

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Interesting thing about this one, “IF” DHB is clearing out the safety that means he is drawing double coverage. So why does JRUSS throw the ball to him???

  338. RaiderTW Says:

    Interesting thing about this one, “IF” DHB is clearing out the safety that means he is drawing double coverage. So why does JRUSS throw the ball to him???
    ——–
    Cable took the blame for Russell’s first interception, having him throw the ball out of his own end zone.
    “I thought we could get them in a single-high safety and they bailed out to a two and Darrius fell down on that,” Cable said. “The bottom line is I could have called a better play.”

  339. vegas raider Says:

    I’m not saying neglect the lines, but the O-line is probably the biggest stregth of our team, that with our kickers and corners.

  340. Thec07 Says:

    nevadaraider Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 6:35 am
    I think that at six (seven?) straight seasons of this crap, we are finally going to see the Raider Nation speak with their money. I doubt there will be anything close to a sellout the rest of the season. Will that be enough to get Al out or at least change? Drive the franchise in to bankruptcy through a boycott.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Sorry to dissapoint but we tried that last year….
    Most people are sheeple, they follow along with what sounds good, or the current “trends”….

  341. nevadaraider Says:

    I know I’m talking stupid but I’ve just had it with all the losing I guess. It’s so frustrating to see us outschemed every Sunday running the same stuff we’ve always ran. Broncos crossing routes underneath just killed us yesterday. Steve Young talking vs. Chargers about how simple our schemes are. blow it up! I’m out.

  342. vegas raider Says:

    Thec,

    You got me. He has got to be more careful with the ball in his own end zone, fresh off a great goalline stand for the D.

    Instead he wings into double-coverage. The one feather in his cap lately for the Russell supporters, and I was one as recently as two weeks ago, was that he didn’t “lose” games. Yesterday he did his part in losing that game.

  343. El Tato Says:

    Yeah, at least Mitchell looked good

  344. Thec07 Says:

    nevadaraider Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 6:39 am
    I know I’m talking stupid but I’ve just had it with all the losing I guess. It’s so frustrating to see us outschemed every Sunday running the same stuff we’ve always ran. Broncos crossing routes underneath just killed us yesterday. Steve Young talking vs. Chargers about how simple our schemes are. blow it up! I’m out.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Not at all Brother, we are all in the same boat. I still feel proud when i wear my raider gear, but it does get tough, being the laughinstock of the NFL.

    Things wont really change until the organization changes. Mr Davis, is the organization, and his lackeys herrera trask and who ever else support this.

    We fans deserve much better…

  345. vegas raider Says:

    Remember that sweet little pitch to D-Mac in the KC game? Where was that yesterday?

    No mis-direction, reverses, trick plays…nothing. Just a bunch of deep outs, post-patterns and handoffs off-tackle and up the middle.

    Zero creativity.

  346. andrew33 Says:

    Prior to week one I highlighted some of the many issues that the Raiders faced and how there was little logic or reason to support any optimism. One of the main points I made was that it was possible that Jamarcus Russell may very well prove to be among the lowest rated QBs in the league. Some of the more reasonable responses I got were from people calling me an idiot (among other more colorful things) and saying that anyone with any knowledge of QB play could not possibly think such a thing. Anyone disagreeing with me now?

  347. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    From Florio’s Live Chat last night:

    8:16 pm ET – Mike, will Oakland have another game televised in their local market this season?
    After today, the folks in Oakland might prefer watching infomercials.

    9:20 PM – So Jamarcus Russel is the worst quarterback alive, right?
    Are you saying Ryan Leaf has died?

    10:46 pm ET – Vick, Russell, Young. Who would you rather have?
    Russell. In a good organization, he would have some hope.

  348. Thec07 Says:

    Troll 35, what up? You should have took me up on that bet Bro……

  349. Florida Pete Says:

    vegas raider Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 6:26 am
    Less than 3 yards an attempt for Mr. Russell. Pitiful.

    But hey, I’m sure DHB did a great job clearing out the safety!!!

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    it’s good to see that someone here finally gets it!!!

    clearing out the safety… as any true football fan knows is THE most important thing an offense needs to do…

    once you clear out the safety… points majically appear on the board…

    old guys… former players… hold up cards with numbers indicating how well the safety was cleared out…

    cheerleaders want to bump uglies with the guy who does the best job of clearing out the safety…

    and pro-bowl appearances are awarded to those players who excel at the art of clearing out the safety…

    yes, my friends… clearing out the safety is not just a football task…

    it’s an art form…

  350. Florida Pete Says:

    Crude Earl Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 6:51 am
    What are some of you smoking???? The O-line the strength of this team??? Boycotts????? Bad Refs????
    The majority of you got just what you cried for…Russell and D Mac….And you’re still crying….what a buch of babies…..How many of you are on the Raider Payroll….None…yet you all act like the loss yesterday had some kind of drastic physical affect on your pathetic, shallow , little lives….it’s Pro Football….entertainment…no different than a Movie or a concert….but then again I can see most of you babies cry at the movies too.

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    i do cry at movies… and football games…

    “a tree grows in brooklyn” is still the all time biggie… 15 hankies…

    yesterday’s debacle: only 9…

    we’re not even really good at being really bad…

  351. Thec07 Says:

    RaiderTW Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 6:36 am
    Interesting thing about this one, “IF” DHB is clearing out the safety that means he is drawing double coverage. So why does JRUSS throw the ball to him???
    ——–
    Cable took the blame for Russell’s first interception, having him throw the ball out of his own end zone.
    “I thought we could get them in a single-high safety and they bailed out to a two and Darrius fell down on that,” Cable said. “The bottom line is I could have called a better play.”

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++=

    TW, with all due respect thats drag. did JRUSS look off read the whole field. You mean to tell me that a “PLAY” only has one option… JRUSS should have read it and went to option b, or c. Dont throw into a bracket, rarely good things happen.

    I better be careful, I am violating my ban on being critical of the QB, said i would wait until the bye, then i will unload…

  352. nevadaraider Says:

    Stop me if you’ve seen this before. Run up the middle, run up the middle, incomplete on third and long…over and over and over and over and over. Or throw short of the chains.

    How many times did we split out DMC yesterday? How many times did we utilize DHB’s speed by giving him a reverse or using a WR screen or slant? We miss Schillens so bad.

  353. Crude Earl Says:

    What are some of you smoking???? The O-line the strength of this team??? Boycotts????? Bad Refs????
    The majority of you got just what you cried for…Russell and D Mac….And you’re still crying….what a buch of babies…..How many of you are on the Raider Payroll….None…yet you all act like the loss yesterday had some kind of drastic physical affect on your pathetic, shallow , little lives….it’s Pro Football….entertainment…no different than a Movie or a concert….but then again I can see most of you babies cry at the movies too.

  354. vegas raider Says:

    On the first pick, Bush was open on a dumpoff that would have probably only gotten a few yards, but it would have moved us out of our end zone a little.

    Russell never even looked his way.

  355. nevadaraider Says:

    Movies and concerts, sure, once in awhile. Crying at football games has gotten out of hand for me but really only started over the last six years!

  356. Florida Pete Says:

    when i post i want that post to show up at the bottom…

    Florida Pete Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 6:48 am
    Crude Earl Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 6:51 am
    What are some of you smoking???? The O-line the strength of this team??? Boycotts????? Bad Refs????
    The majority of you got just what you cried for…Russell and D Mac….And you’re still crying….what a buch of babies…..How many of you are on the Raider Payroll….None…yet you all act like the loss yesterday had some kind of drastic physical affect on your pathetic, shallow , little lives….it’s Pro Football….entertainment…no different than a Movie or a concert….but then again I can see most of you babies cry at the movies too.

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    i do cry at movies… and football games…

    “a tree grows in brooklyn” is still the all time biggie… 15 hankies…

    yesterday’s debacle: only 9…

    we’re not even really good at being really bad…

  357. Florida Pete Says:

    Florida Pete Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 6:47 am
    vegas raider Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 6:26 am
    Less than 3 yards an attempt for Mr. Russell. Pitiful.

    But hey, I’m sure DHB did a great job clearing out the safety!!!

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    it’s good to see that someone here finally gets it!!!

    clearing out the safety… as any true football fan knows is THE most important thing an offense needs to do…

    once you clear out the safety… points majically appear on the board…

    old guys… former players… hold up cards with numbers indicating how well the safety was cleared out…

    cheerleaders want to bump uglies with the guy who does the best job of clearing out the safety…

    and pro-bowl appearances are awarded to those players who excel at the art of clearing out the safety…

    yes, my friends… clearing out the safety is not just a football task…

    it’s an art form…

  358. RaiderRockstar Says:

    JaMarcus = Barack.

    BUST

  359. RaiderRockstar Says:

    a few positives:

    Mike Mitchell looks like a player!

    Michael Huff is a better run defender, taking better angles. no missed tackles yesterday

    even though it was cheap, I thought what Seymour did to Clady was hilarious. Rates up there with Tyler Brayton giving Jeremy Stevens a knee to the groin

    Chris Johnson’s pass interference call was total bs

  360. nevadaraider Says:

    OK, so since I was just a kid at the time, I need you veterans to let me know how long Davis sticks with bust QBs in case this QB performance continues. How long did we stick with Mark Wilson?

  361. Thec07 Says:

    Crude Earl Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 6:51 am
    What are some of you smoking???? The O-line the strength of this team??? Boycotts????? Bad Refs????
    The majority of you got just what you cried for…Russell and D Mac….And you’re still crying….what a buch of babies…..How many of you are on the Raider Payroll….None…yet you all act like the loss yesterday had some kind of drastic physical affect on your pathetic, shallow , little lives….it’s Pro Football….entertainment…no different than a Movie or a concert….but then again I can see most of you babies cry at the movies too.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Me personally i have turned to laughter…..

    A lot of fans do take this football thing very personal, doent make a diffrence if they are on the payroll or not, that is actually irellevant.

    Some of the few things fans do….
    1. go out and buy gear of his favorite team.
    2. Talk about his team to others all the way up to
    end of the game
    3. Drop money on his team
    4. Throw game day parties
    5. Go to the games, and tailgate
    6. Hope and pray the team does decent

    Keep in mind that you only have 17 weeks not including preseason. The if your team sucks “see raiders last 6 years and counting” then you have to wait a whole year and hope renergize yourself that hey maybe this year we will be good….

    So contrary to your comments fans have a huge vested interest in the game wheather they play or not. Also questioning ones life shallow, and pathetic, you dont have a clue who ny of the blogs posters are….

  362. Raider Dell Says:

    Early for me to be at work today, couldn’t sleep. You guys can continue to blame, Cable, Jamarcus, Davis, DHB, DMAC, and you’ll find others.

    That’s your right, and I’ve decided after going to the games and watching such terrible, uninspired football, plus this blog has become so negative, I wonder why we are all Raider men and continue to watch this team.

    The blame is on the team. That team yesterday just got whipped, the Broncos wanted it more. I have yet to see the Raiders in a crucial game, play hard when they needed to.

    I would accept defeat if they played every game with the intensity of their convictions, like their actions in the San diego game. The loss was painful,against San Diego, but I left the Coliseum with satisfaction that they played hard. Yesterday was nothing close to what I saw a few Monday nights ago.

    The real question should be in here besides the Jamarcus bashing, Cable play calling, and why are you guys concerned about the routes these WR’S run or don’t run correctly. Why do we play uninspired football.

    The defense continues to let WR’S sometimes tightends, drag in front of the linebackers for 6-8 yards and the plays will continue the drives for first downs. The San Diego game had the same plays, just a different part of the game. Why haven’t our linebackers learned not to drop so far off, they’re are part of the problem.

    The D-line was attacked yesterday, they just had no push, they were run over, it was worse than usual, because I don’t believe man for man Denver offense line should be better than our D-Line.

    I saw 3 blitzes yesterday, you might as well just give it up, when we do, the players take the wrong gaps or angles and they usually run or bump into each other.

    This team yesterday had no fire. I can’t question their heart,because I don’t know what they were thinking.

    I feel bad for you young guys, I hope this blog can become a place to have comments about victorys, instead of these uninspired defeats.

    Some of you guys are such passionate Raider MEN, I wish you success soon.

    Later, I am OUT.

  363. Thec07 Says:

    Some guys have said it on this blog time and time again and it is a FACT…. Until the organization changes this team will never win. Everything starts at the top, and rolls down…

  364. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Al Davis didn’t throw 2 INT’s or fumble 3 times yesterday. He didn’t fail to stuff the run. He didn’t ask LB’s to cover WR’s in the slot (especially thier #1 WR in the redzone!)

    Al Davis built this team based on potential, not production. Michael Crabtree could sign with the 49ers today, get in on 15 plays Sunday. Have 2 catches and be more productive than DHB in the first 4 weeks on the season. Isn’t that sad? Matthew Stafford plays for the LIONS fellas and he’s going to win more football games than Russell the next 2 years. take that to the bank. we’re pathetic. I’m surprised we beat the Chiefs. We actually got outplayed in that game from top to bottom. Special teams saved the day…

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  366. Dakota Says:

    I hate to say I told you so, but I told you so…

    Cable does not have the ability to prepare an NFL team or make the adjustments necessary to make this a winning team.

    I had hoped for a 6-10 season…if we lose next week, we might go 3-13 if we are lucky.

    Russell is actually getting worse. McFadden and Bush have been disappointing. Our o-line can no longer run block. The Raider defense of old made an appearance last week against KC, but came full on yesterday.

    Amateur hour in Oakland has been extended for another season or two…as long as Cable is at the helm.

  367. Raider25 Says:

    Sounds to me that Russell is starting to make excuses andf blame other people instead of himself…..He sucks period and the Raiders will be lucky to win another game for next five games. I’m tired of all the BS excuses

  368. Crude Earl Says:

    So contrary to your comments fans have a huge vested interest in the game wheather they play or not. Also questioning ones life shallow, and pathetic, you dont have a clue who ny of the blogs posters are….

    It’s not a stretch questioning the shallowness ( and intelligence in some cases) of the posters lives here, when the majority of you neglect families and jobs to spend a large portion of your waking hours here crying about things, of which you have no control, nor ever will have……pathetic.

  369. Raider25 Says:

    Seriously???? Fire another coach????? and what will that do???? NOT A THING. Players have to play

  370. Crude Earl Says:

    Yeah right Dakota….lobby for Dmac and Russell some more too

  371. Raider25 Says:

    Crude Earl, F YOU

  372. RaiderRockstar Says:

    as much as we bashed Josh McDaniels & Kyle Orton since the Jay Cutler trade, Dungver is 3-0. 1st place in the division. We’re 1-2. 3rd place in the division.

    Kyle Orton is a game manager. He’s not a stud, but he makes plays when it counts.

    Russell is the worst starting QB in the NFL. People in here criticized me for saying that Jeff Garcia could do a better job. Saying Garcia is 4th string in Philly, etc etc. Let me ask you this question …

    31/75, 41 percent completion percentage. 378 yards, 1 TD, 4 INT, sacked 6 times, 39.8 QB Rating

    you guys REALLY gonna sit here and tell me that Jeff Garcia couldn’t do better?

    where’s Danny Southwick???

    next home game the Oakland fans will be cheering “Danny, Danny, Danny!” if anybody shows up …

  373. Raider25 Says:

    Charlie, Get your head out of you a** . We have a lot of bust on this team.

  374. SC Says:

    Forget the game….it’s was crazy in the stands!

    I’m done taking my son. I’m a season ticket holder with six games up for sell.

    Anybody interested?

  375. Dakota Says:

    Fire Cable today and hire Fassel or Green, hell even Florida Pete, and we would be a better team by the end of the season.

    Trade for Kolb today, and we would be 10 times better on offense next Sunday.

  376. Charlie Says:

    All I heard during the offseason was how with Tollner/Hackett and a great WR like Maclin or Crabtree we would light things up which would open up the running game etc etc etc.

    It does not work that way.

    It was lunacy to think a SECOND year QB, a rookie WR and DMAC would be effective at all WITHOUT AN NFL CALIBER OLINE.

    Russell is a work in progress. Deal with it.
    So is DHB and Dmac. Deal with it.
    With a good Oline they would develop more quickly.
    Shut up about busts and learn football.
    We have a below average Oline without Gallery and every aspect of our offense will suffer.
    Pears,Carlisle,Green, Morris.
    Are you really surprised?

  377. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Any thoughts on Donovan McNabb?

  378. Dakota Says:

    Al Davis retaining Cable was one of his biggest mistakes as an owner to date.

    These players are all talented. Unfortunately, Cable and crew are actually making them worse. We need an NFL caliber head coach…not some guy who has been a complete and utter failure as a head coach even at the college level.

    It is not like we would be firing an actual head coach…he is a joke.

    Sorry he fooled you guys with a couple of meaningless wins at the end of last year.

  379. alisgod Says:

    I thought the Oline held up decently enough. The first int DHB needs to go up and fight for that ball. The first safety was beat and you have a 6-2 vs a 5-11 going for the ball. If it was Chaz, he would win that catch. I remember he dit that vs Fabian in the Ravens game last year. DHB has to fight for the ball. But Cable should have never called that play anyways.

    The running game will suck unless Cable comes up with a scheme to help out Jabustus rythm or Chaz helps with a few first downs to take the double from Miller.

  380. Thec07 Says:

    Crude Earl Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 7:19 am
    So contrary to your comments fans have a huge vested interest in the game wheather they play or not. Also questioning ones life shallow, and pathetic, you dont have a clue who ny of the blogs posters are….

    It’s not a stretch questioning the shallowness ( and intelligence in some cases) of the posters lives here, when the majority of you neglect families and jobs to spend a large portion of your waking hours here crying about things, of which you have no control, nor ever will have……pathetic.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Lots of assumptions in your post….

    Intelligence…. so you could estimate based on post a persons IQ right?

    How do you know that family, and jobs are being neglected?

    Personally as stated I laugh I also enjoy reading the post on this blog, very entertaining.

    But what I wont do is try to control another persons views on how they feel about the team and what they feel should be done…. Its a blog everyone has a right to opine about the issues.

    To think otherwise is pathetic….

  381. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Dakota,
    How did you like my 60 pt Manning? Unbelieveable.
    Helped take the sting out of the Raider’s.

  382. jhill Says:

    It is what it is.

    If ever there was a team that just thought they could show up and beat you man to man, it’s the Raiders. There is no real scheme to this team. Just line up, and let’s play.

    I don’t buy this half the playbook business. The full playbook is open, but it only has about 10 plays and 2 or 3 formations. We run the same plays, over and over again. 2 WRs slpit out wide running vertical routes, and a TE running a slant either inside or out. Of course we have the basic power I running play, and maybe one more.

    The coach and the owner are on the exact same page. This is just a slightly better version of what we saw in 2006. This offense is so easy to defend, it’s sickening. Same with the defense. No adjustments, no scheme, and no wins as long as this continues.

  383. LA to TheBay Says:

    What’s up, Nation.

    Another long week in store for us, although I’m not prepared to say it will be a ling season.

    My thoughts if you give a sh–

    1. It’s obvious the grace period with Cable is over. Davis wants his big money, big arm QB throwing to his big money WR.

    2. The best running back on the team and one of the better ones in the league would be rushing for 20-25/game and 100 yards were he on another team.

    3. McFadden needs some stickum

    4. Russell isn’t bad when he’s in rhythm and not throwing 40 yards downfield. I broke down a bunch of game film from his 3 best games last year (@ Denver, Houston, @ Tampa) and have interesting stuff I’m still trying to find a way to post. Broke down stuff from the three games so far this year, and he is certainly playing poorly.

    But in his defense, he’s being asked to force the ball downfield. He had a rather high completion percentage on throws less than 20 yards, but no YAC. He looks much better when defenses have to cover Zach or Shilens. Schilens/Curry/Lelie bailed him out a lot last year, and the only WR coming close this year is Murphy.

    4. The defense had no fire. Oh, unless it’s when it counted. This game could have easily been 35-0. The gave up too much up the middle and waaay too many rushing yards, but played well enough to win if the offense did their job.

    5. Intensity? What happened? If this team came out and played like they did vs. San Diego, they may not have won, but would have been in the game and the Broncos certainly would have felt it afterwards.

    I doubt they’re even sore.

    Where’s the fire?

    If this team is to be any different than the last six, they need to turn it around QUICKLY.

    Beat teams you’re supposed to and steal a few you’re not.

    The next 5 weeks will be crucial.

  384. wishbone Says:

    Commitment to Excraments….Since 2003 we have had a bunch of coaches in & out of here as well has hundreds of different players. Yet it’s the same old results. Al Davis says all he wants it to win. Are you kidding me? Using the same crappy schemes on defense then drafting the dumbess quarterback in NFL history. Do you honestly believe JaMonkey is losing any sleep over his ridiculous performances? Any of you recall Marc WIlson, Jay Schroeder, Jeff George or Kerry Collins? All big arms with any brains or heart. Mark my words Al is gonna stick with JaMonkey all this season and next because he doesn’t want to pay people who don’t play (except Javon Walker). This will continue week after week with JaMonkey because he is dumb as an ice cube with the heart of a mosquito. Gannon & Sapp are right. They should blow up the building and start over. This organization is now pure garbage. Thanks Al.

  385. hwnrdr Says:

    Funny quote from a fellow season ticket holder in my section…”JaMarcus runs like a buffalo…no wonder the lions always catches them”

  386. RaiderRockstar Says:

    the o-line has played surprisingly well if you watched the games Charlie!

    Russell has had PLENTY of time to throw. ALL DAY at times. he throws a rocket ball to DHB in double coverage and it gets picked. he even locked onto the target. any of you surprised? he can’t even execute a screen pass properly. he’s as dumb as a box of rocks and Cable even said a week ago “he needs to put the work in” it’s not a coaching issue. Cable, Tollner & Hackett and stuck with a flop at QB and it will probably cost them all thier jobs. disgusting.

    I’m with Dakota, trade for Kevin Kolb. next year’s 1st rounder should do. can’t afford another Top 5 pick anyways …

  387. RaiderRockstar Says:

    These players are all talented. Unfortunately, Cable and crew are actually making them worse.

    ***

    please don’t throw Cable under the bus for Russell’s performance. Rich Gannon even said “he has one of the best QB coaches in the game. I’m not sure why he’s struggling so much”

    Rich also went on to say “in his 3rd season it seems he’s regressed. at this point you have to wonder if he has what it takes” I agree with that. I know the game was blacked out locally, but was televised here in Missouri. kinda wishing it wasn’t!

  388. Thec07 Says:

    Crude Earl Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 7:19 am
    So contrary to your comments fans have a huge vested interest in the game wheather they play or not. Also questioning ones life shallow, and pathetic, you dont have a clue who ny of the blogs posters are….

    It’s not a stretch questioning the shallowness ( and intelligence in some cases) of the posters lives here, when the majority of you neglect families and jobs to spend a large portion of your waking hours here crying about things, of which you have no control, nor ever will have……pathetic.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++=

    Your commenst make it seem as though the fan is irellevant… “IF” you know anything about business the “FAN” or customer is the most important thing to this team/business. Without the “FANS” the team ceases to exist.

    Question, Have the Raiders organzation ” Mr Davis” gave the ‘FANS” a viable product over the last 6 years and counting.

  389. wishbone Says:

    Get use to Silver and Blackout guys. Not sure why any of you would give up your hard earned money to see JaMonkey waddle around without giving a damn about the fans. Can someone please tell me why JaMonkey wears a stocking cap on an 85 degree day? Maybe he is afraid that what little brains he has might leak out along with his sweat. He is officially now THE worst QB in NFL history. Only JaMonkey could make Alex Smith look like Joe Montana. Thanks again Al.

  390. jhill Says:

    Charlie,

    I will tell you what I am surprised by.

    If Cable and Al want to sell us this DHB vertical speed thing to occupy to S, then where are the underneath patterns to take advantage of that open space?

    Where is the DMac at WR mismatch Cable talked about all summer?

    Where is Bush and that power running game that Al talked about at the press conference?

    Where is JLH?

    Why are they forcing 2 rookie WRs on us as STARTERS?

    Where is all that blitzing we saw in the preseason from Marshall?

    How is it that Nnamid knew this was going to happen based on a bad Friday practice?

    WTF is Cable doing? Is he just bobble heading in his meeting with Al? Looks that way to me!

    This team is UNPREPARED, plain and simple!

  391. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    ********WOW HOW PATHETIC*************

    I am sure you guys will go after each other all day beating each other up over a bad game. But you know what the facts are this is just not a good football team. Rather it is a rookie, a veteran, a coach, the trainer. This is a bad team and right now a bad franchise. I am really not that optimistic for the season and I am really tired of making excuses from Al Davis to Russel to the ball boy. This is just a not a good team, flat out!

    When ever you make average teams look good you are a bad team. Russel can’t throw, DHB can’t get open or catch, DMAC can’t hold on to the ball to save his life. Bush and Zach Miller can’t even get in the game.

    I hate ESPN but I am starting to think they are right about this team.

    I guess it is just to easy to party and blow money around Oakland and LA to care about geting wins on Sunday.

  392. Thec07 Says:

    wishbone Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 7:35 am
    Commitment to Excraments….Since 2003 we have had a bunch of coaches in & out of here as well has hundreds of different players. Yet it’s the same old results. Al Davis says all he wants it to win. Are you kidding me? Using the same crappy schemes on defense then drafting the dumbess quarterback in NFL history. Do you honestly believe JaMonkey is losing any sleep over his ridiculous performances? Any of you recall Marc WIlson, Jay Schroeder, Jeff George or Kerry Collins? All big arms with any brains or heart. Mark my words Al is gonna stick with JaMonkey all this season and next because he doesn’t want to pay people who don’t play (except Javon Walker). This will continue week after week with JaMonkey because he is dumb as an ice cube with the heart of a mosquito. Gannon & Sapp are right. They should blow up the building and start over. This organization is now pure garbage. Thanks Al.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Until othwerwise noted this is the post of the week…

  393. wishbone Says:

    To all of you who are still drinking the koolaid. The Raiders will NEVER win more than five games in a season as long as JaMonkey is QB & Al is running the show. I really think JaMonkey should be arrested and put in jail for impersonating an NFL QB. Gimme back my freakin money AL!

  394. hwnrdr Says:

    Heck, I’m out too!!! Oh well, 6 more (home) games this year! Maybe I should go find Norco Bob’s tailgate party on the 18th!
    Have a good day Nation!!!! Be optimistic about life until the Raiders gives us something to be optimistic about!!!

  395. LA to TheBay Says:

    Offensive line played well.
    Mitchell played well.
    Huff played decently.
    Branch played well.
    LBs, um what happened?
    I know Kirk and Howard had 7 tackles apiece, but they just didn’t show up to me.
    Front 4 took up space. Didn’t get much of a push, but that’s when your LBs need to step up.

    Give Bush the ball.
    Pass the ball to Murphy.
    Pass the ball to Zach.
    Chaz – heal.

    Cable needs to suck it up and realize he’s not calling plays that cater to his players’ strengths and avoiding they’re weaknesses.

    It’s quite the opposite really. He’s calling plays that are exposing all the weaknesses of his young offense and not anything creative to get the ball in their hands.

    If you want a pass-first offense (which Al does obvioously), you need an accurate QB. Or dink and dunk. Seems like Al wants neither.

  396. Romo53 Says:

    JABUST JABUST JABUST

  397. RaiderRockstar Says:

    i’m out for now. this is depressing

    Denver isn’t a good football team, yet they dominated us. They probably could have scored another 3 TD’s on us if they had a competitive team to play against. It was sort of like watching a race. one team so far outplaying the other, they just coast to the finish

    We’ve got the Giants, Eagles, Jets & Chargers on the schedule after an away game with Houston. I’m not looking forward to those games!

  398. Romo53 Says:

    Nice Job, cutting Jeff Garcia and now we are stuck with this trainwreck of a QB JABUST

  399. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    Wishbone and Thec07(repost), I did not like Russels play on the filed at all but there is no reason to get racial and refer to the man as a monkey “JaMonkey.”

    That is not cool.

    ——————————————————-

    Thec07 Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 7:44 am
    wishbone Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 7:35 am
    Commitment to Excraments….Since 2003 we have had a bunch of coaches in & out of here as well has hundreds of different players. Yet it’s the same old results. Al Davis says all he wants it to win. Are you kidding me? Using the same crappy schemes on defense then drafting the dumbess quarterback in NFL history. Do you honestly believe JaMonkey is losing any sleep over his ridiculous performances? Any of you recall Marc WIlson, Jay Schroeder, Jeff George or Kerry Collins? All big arms with any brains or heart. Mark my words Al is gonna stick with JaMonkey all this season and next because he doesn’t want to pay people who don’t play (except Javon Walker). This will continue week after week with JaMonkey because he is dumb as an ice cube with the heart of a mosquito. Gannon & Sapp are right. They should blow up the building and start over. This organization is now pure garbage. Thanks Al.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Until othwerwise noted this is the post of the week…

  400. Thec07 Says:

    This is the exact same thing as last year. Hope you guys dont get too spun up over the ineptitude of the franchise know as the Oakland Raiders. It is the fault of the “WHOLE ORGANIZATION” for what has happened the last 6 years. We are not in the late 70’s, we are in the 2K’s football as progressed… The “ORGANIZATION” has not.

    I am going to leave now before i get accused of spending to much time on the blog by some of the controlling professional bloggers, you kknow they type that tell you your opinion is wrong and you shouldnt complain that the team and organization is bad.

    Later nation….

  401. Romo53 Says:

    JABUST is an anchor around the organizations neck

  402. Trolls 35 Raiders 0 Says:

    Thec07 Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 6:45 am
    Troll 35, what up? You should have took me up on that bet Bro……

    Coulda :?: Shoulda :?: Betting against the missing link :mrgreen: is like taking candy from a baby :lol:

  403. Dakota Says:

    Exla, wow, nice game for Manning lol. Fuk, I even get screwed in FF!

  404. LA to TheBay Says:

    It’s funny that the whole blog turns on the team so quickly.

    Even after the narrow win vs. KC it was “a playoff team and only Russell is holding us back.”

    I still think that’s true but I would substitute ‘Russell’ with ‘gameplanning and playcalling.’

    They want him to hit homeruns. He’s not. Try something else before the whole season slips away.

    We can win with this team, but must prepare, must be physical, and must use the best players to our advantage.

    That means, Bush, Murphy, and yes – Javon Walker.

    Vet WRs bailed out Russell quite a bit last year. Shilens too. When the defense respects the threat to the WR, it leaves Zach open.

    The proof is in the pudding, and by pudding, I mean film.

    If anyone cares to see what I put together (probably not), I’m still trying to get it posted.

  405. jhill Says:

    Disagree RRS …

    The coaches (Al and Cable) area absolutely responsible for this mess.

    The first play of the SD game was about as creative as I’ve seen Cable, and it went for big yards. DMac AND Bush in the backfield with both WRs lined up on one side. DMac goes in motion to the other side creating a big mis match against the 3-4. Bush for 15 yds.

    Now, all of a sudden, we are getting ONeal carrying the ball instead of Bush? I formation up the middle to McFadden? Nothing but vertical routes by the WR and nothing underneath?

    Bed and breakfast all over again!

  406. ragin Says:

    How tall is dhb the guy is supposed to be tall enough to outjump avg corners, at this point I don’t think he can go get a handoff unless someone wraps it in a twenty million dollar bow…

  407. jhill Says:

    Marriucci, Prime, Irvin, and the whole crew are saying NOTHING about Russell. They are all over DHB and the rookie WRs.

    Prime: “You have rookie WRs who you never know where they are going to be.”

    Marriucci: “Those rookie WRs are not giving Jamarcus ANY help.”

    Irvin: “DHB ….. !!!! 1 catch in 3 games ????”

    Jamarcus didn’t throw another pass DHBs way after that 2nd pick.

  408. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Dakota,
    I got lucky. Even my pickup of Nate Washington came with a TD.

  409. UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER Says:

    THIS IS FROM TWITTER

    Adam_SchefterOakland’s last three No. 1 picks — Darius Heyward-Bey, Darren McFadden, JaMarcus Russell. Any more questions about why Raiders struggling?
    about 2 hours ago from web

  410. Dakota Says:

    Don’t worry guys, if we beat the Texans next week, I am sure we can also take out the Eagles, Giants, Jets and SD in the coming weeks prior to the bye week and be 5-2!

    Or maybe not…

    1-7 going into the bye week looks real possible right now.

  411. Raider Headbutt Says:

    Well there you have it. As long as Russel is our QB I really don’t think we have a winning season.

  412. Charlie Says:

    Callahan, Trestman, Turner, Shell, Kiffin, Tollner, Hackett, Cable etc etc etc.

    Coaching is not our biggest problem on the Raiders.

    We have a very young football team with an INCONSISTENT Oline.

    Different people ar pointing out the times JR had time and made a bad throw. I understand that.

    What about the majority of the time where they could not get a push on a running play or they do not pick up a blitz.

    CONSISTENCY of Oline play is what is missing.
    No question DHB, JR and Dmac need to improve.
    They will never get there if we keep changing systems and our Oline play does not improve.
    The progress is going to be slower because our Oline does not make enough plays.

  413. UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER Says:

    Adam_SchefterClose your eyes, Raider Nation. JaMarucs Russell was sacked more times in the second half yesterday (3) than he had passing yards (1).
    28 minutes ago from UberT

  414. jhill Says:

    One thing that really puzzles me …

    I thought Al had an open door policy for he players? The players clearly do not want to run these schemes, especially on defense, yet Nnamdi, Seymour, and Howard just can’t mob up to Al’s office and chop it up?

  415. Mistabrown Says:

    When the defense made that goal line stand & JaMeatloaf threw into dbl coverage for an INT that was the game right there!

    Cable has no options for play calling. The def is stacking the box and JaMeatball is his own worst enemy.

    To compound Russells problems Cable wont give the old man the middle finger & play J Walker, instead he saddles a half wit Qb with DHB.

  416. nevadaraider Says:

    I agree that unfortunately, there just isn’t a lot there in terms of talent. As I said in #322, we only have a small handful of players who could start on even half the teams in the league. That to me speaks volumes. I have been on the kool-aid for some time now, but enough is enough. Cable, Marshall, Tollner, and Hackett have all coached for many years in different capacities. I think our game plan is limited because our talent is limited.

  417. UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER Says:

    THE DEFENSE IS NOT THE PROBLEM RIGHT NOW THEY GAVE UP 23 POINTS BUT WERE ON THE FIELD ALL DAY.

    PLENTY OF TEAMS GIVE UP 23 POINTS AND STILL WIN.

    WE HAVE A LINEMAN COACH AS A HEAD COACH WE HAVE A QUARTERBACK WHO IS A BUST AND A SENIAL GENERAL MANAGER

    THINGS ARE GOING TO BE BAD FOR AWHILE IM AFRAID.

    THE DETROIT LIONS HAVE A BETTER OFFENSE THAN WE DO.(NOT A BETTER TEAM BUT A BETTER OFFENSE FOR SURE)

  418. Mistabrown Says:

    The defense spirit has been brokeN. If Cable doesn’t give AL the middle finger this week it is OVER. One more pathetic showing against Houston and this ship is sunk!

  419. jhill Says:

    CMon Mista,

    There is enough BS going on on the field to not have to make up stuff. JRuss put that pass in a perfect spot but DHB trips and falls. That 2nd defender wasnt even in the play. The ball dropped right in Hill’s hand who was trailing DHB. If DHB doesn’t fall down, that ball hits DHB right in the hands and falls incomplete. LOL!

  420. Raider Headbutt Says:

    had time? thats an understatement. i could have toasted bread, buttered it and ate it, then throw a better pass than him!.

    If any1 here reads what i post im a positive guy and don’t like bashing players totally like others, but enough is enough. We will not win with him as our QB. The proof is in the numbers.

    Cable can say all he want that it was his play calling, but there was clearly double coverage where DHB was and Russel and only russel threw that ball.

    My grandma thats in a wheel chair has more mobility in the pocket than he does.

  421. Mistabrown Says:

    Jhill, what did I make up ?

  422. Dakota Says:

    Exla, you weren’t lucky, you just flat out beat me…see, even you are a better coach than Tom Cable.

  423. jhill Says:

    Double coverage my Arse …

    Dawkins was 5 yds behind that play Mista. DHB …. LMFAO! Just comical how he just fell down on that play. It’s going to be a long year with that guy out there. He may turn out to be something down the line, but I’m not seeing it right now.

  424. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Someone need to shake Cable up. Offensive line coaches are usually conservative. Joe Bugel and Art Shell are prime examples. Need to get more creative.

  425. Raider Headbutt Says:

    UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER I honestly think if we played the Lions yesterday they would have beat us.

  426. jhill Says:

    Don’t get me wrong Mista, the play was a disaster from start to finish, as was the game, and effort from everyone.

    But tell me you didn’t know Cable was going deep right off the bat? Was that really a surprise? And off PA? That means only 2 receivers in the pattern. What a joke of a playcall. Especially since the ran the same thing on first down!

  427. Charlie Says:

    415 EXACTLY

    You win games when you control the line of scrimmage.

    We do not have the Oline talent to CONSISTENTLY do that.

    We will look good occasionally but we breakdown on the Oline far too often.

    We will need to get more basic on offense like we did at the end of last season.

    We were down ten with eleven minutes left against Tampa and we ran the ball.
    We will use some trickery now and then but we need rollouts etc and use more max protect schemes when we decide to throw.

  428. Dakota Says:

    wishbone Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 7:46 am
    To all of you who are still drinking the koolaid. The Raiders will NEVER win more than five games in a season as long as JaMonkey is QB & Al is running the show. I really think JaMonkey should be arrested and put in jail for impersonating an NFL QB. Gimme back my freakin money AL!
    ________________________

    Wishbone,

    JaMonkey? Really, come on man.

    KoolKell…now what this guy said IS racist IMO…

  429. Charlie Says:

    Sorry I meant 416. Exactly

  430. LA to TheBay Says:

    Nevada

    I know these are seasoned coaches, but they’re trying to get something out of these guys that just isn’t there.

    All of our opponents are expecting Al to play with his toys.

    Try something else, because Plan A is not only ridiculous, it’s not working.

    Plan B:

    -Run the ball
    -Pass the ball evenly
    Spread the ball around on passing plays, use up to all five eligible receivers at any given play.
    -Stop forcing it deep.
    -Change the look of the defense at least occasionally. One on one defense leaves chunks open up the middle and spread offenses will take advantage of that.
    -Did I mention run the ball?

  431. LA to TheBay Says:

    VR exactly.

    Playcalling would be OK for a team capable of executing such a gameplan.

    These guys can’t. Time to try something else.

    RE: DHB.

    Just because DHB is fast, doesn’t mean we need to throw it to him 40 yards downfield every other play.

    Larry Fitzgerald isn’t DHB fast, but would make an effort on the ball.

    You give Russell Boldin, Breaston, and Fitzgerald, I guarantee those guys would be attacking the ball.

  432. Mistabrown Says:

    Dakota, why give KK the bigot any reason to bring up race ?

  433. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Wishboner,
    Diss JaMarcus on the facts and you will be respected. The rascist B.S. has no place here. Take it to your clan meeting.

  434. Dakota Says:

    Mista…because that is more interesting to read than all the BS about the Raiders, lol.

  435. SC Says:

    Mistabrown…..The ship is taking in water faster than the Titanic!

  436. vegas raider Says:

    I’m still scratching my head……4 passes in the first 5 plays, with TWO OF THEM COMING FROM OUR OWN 1 YARD LINE!!!!

    I know Russell is really struggling, but I hang that on the play-caller. You have to put your players in their best situations, dropping Jamarcus in his own end zone is the exact opposite of that.

  437. UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER Says:

    HEADBUTT I AGREE THE LIONS WOULD OF BEAT US YESTERDAY OR LAST WEEK GAINST THE CHIEFS.

  438. wishbone Says:

    I bet you JaMonkey just rolled (and I do mean roll) out of bed and chowed down on a dozen Cinnabons for breakfast. He then goes over to the facility. But first he stops off at the bank to make sure his $150,000 game check was direct deposited. Once he gets to practice he sits by his locker and downs a 32 oz. Big Gulp along with 8 burgers from In n Out. After waddling around at practice and telling Cable to stop blowing that damn whistle or he’ll tell Al, he stops off at IHop for a two dozen stack of pancakes & a gallon of maple syrup. Heading home now to take a nap. Nighty night JaMonkey.

  439. SC Says:

    Vagas…or at least quick slants….but a seven step drop back pass…come on!

  440. UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER Says:

    Russell was the overall No. 1 pick two years ago, signing for a guaranteed $34.5 million. McFadden was the fourth overall pick a year ago, $26 million guaranteed. Heyward-Bey was the seventh overall pick this year, $23.5 million guaranteed.

    84 MILLION GURANTEED WOW !!!!!!

  441. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    wishbone Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 8:33 am
    Ex get over yourself dude. Race was never even brought up.
    ——————————
    Calling a African-American McMonkey is racist. It’s impled by the code words. Just to make a point.

  442. UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER Says:

    The Master Plan calls for McFadden to scare the daylights out of defenses, creating a vast play area for the dreaded vertical passing game that Russell and Heyward-Bey will unleash on the helpless league.

    Together these three will lead the Raiders out of the Wilderness of Ineptitude and back to the land of Raider Domination.

    AL DAVIS IS A GENIUS LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!

  443. wishbone Says:

    Ex get over yourself dude. Race was never even brought up.

  444. nevadaraider Says:

    I agree LA. This team has so many problems I don’t even know where to begin. I’m all over the map this morning.

  445. Dakota Says:

    Up Loco,

    What do you expect when you put a buffoon in charge of those $84 million dollar toys?

    Having Cable as the HC is like having a blind man driving your indy car…not the best idea Al has ever had.

    I’d love to see what a guy like Gruden, or Shanahan could do with those toys…but Al has burned those bridges and has created such a mess that it will be very difficult to talk a decent HC into coming to Oakland…but we still could have done better than Cable this offseason…another USC ball boy could do as good of a job as Cable.

  446. Dakota Says:

    Whatever Randy Hanson said to get a broken jaw…he was probably right.

    Can we get an assist from the authorities and get Cable arrested already?

    At least that would give Al an excuse to void the last several years of Cable’s contract!

  447. vegas raider Says:

    Peter King’s two takes on the Raiders, for whatever it’s worth:

    *I think, from the sound of the boos at Oakland on Sunday, the locals have had just about enough of JaMarcus Russell. His first three series: three-and-out, interception on a deep ball intended for Heyward-Bey, another interception on a deep ball intended for Heyward-Bey. That dug the Raiders a 10-0 hole they could never get out of, and Oakland had to throw mostly short stuff the rest of the day, fearful of Russell turning it over more. His 12 completions resulted in a measly 61 yards. I’m starting to think we’re watching the second coming of Ryan Leaf.

    *In the eight quarters following his energetic Monday night debut, Richard Seymour has six tackles and zero sacks.

  448. The Big Banana Says:

    When asked if he was satisfied by his progression as an NFL quarterback, Russell said, “I am, but when you get tough looks like that, and a tough crowd, hey it’s the NFL, you have continue to progress yourself in becoming the person that you want to be.
    =============================================
    Wow, your state of mind is even worse than I thought, JaMammoth. You’re happy with your progression? Why don’t you just come out and say it….you just don’t give a sh!t, do you? Tough fans? Now, you’re just delusional!

  449. Raider Headbutt Says:

    That first pass play from our 1 should have been caught, FB had it right in his hands

  450. wishbone Says:

    It doesn’t matter who the head coach is. Al calls the shots. Beside JaMonkey couldn’t get it down with freakin Vince Lombardi in his prime. Maybe JaMonkey should become an actor and do a remake of the Wizard of Oz. Who was the one who always sang “If I only had a brain”?

  451. jhill Says:

    I dunno Dakota …

    I think it may be more of AL not wanting to pony up the jack moreso than burning any bridges. If he would have paid Gruden, Gruden would have never left.

    I bet you Gruden would be back here in a second for $5 million a year. Same with Dungy and Cowher. And I bet you they wouldn’t puppet like Cable and Shell did!

    Money talks!

  452. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    How can I respond to post #443 in post #441? LMFAO

    exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 8:33 am
    wishbone Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 8:33 am
    Ex get over yourself dude. Race was never even brought up.
    ——————————
    Calling a African-American McMonkey is racist. It’s impled by the code words. Just to make a point.

  453. RaiderRobG Says:

    “We suck again!”

  454. wishbone Says:

    Just lose JaMonkey. 1 yard passing in the second half. I think almost every other NFL QB could have done blindfolded & in a straight jacket. Hey Ex just so I don’t hurt your precious feelings anymore I will now refer to your starting QB as JaIdiot. Happy now? Or maybe you think I’m discriminating against all the other idiots in the world? BTW what is “impled”? I’m not familiar with that term. Please do fill me in professor.

  455. inonewordraider Says:

    I’m officially done being the fan that I was. No more pre-draft research, no more trade or free agent signing scenario conteplation, and no more more planning my Sunday around the Raider game. I just can’t take being pissed all week after a Raider loss anymore so until (if ever) they start winning again will I make the Raider games a priority

  456. SC Says:

    Russell said, “I am, but when you get tough looks like that, and a tough crowd, hey it’s the NFL, you have continue to progress yourself in becoming the person that you want to be”

    hahahahaha….dude, “tough crowd”…can someone please explain to JaMarcus that he played a home game yesterday.

  457. Dakota Says:

    At least I finally saw Mike Mitchell!

  458. Dakota Says:

    Jhill,

    You are probably right…and we would be much better with one of those guys. But I think Gruden and Shanny will have much better opportunities with Washington and Dallas this offseason, and even if Al offered them more money than Washington or Dallas, I would imagine they would still choose those teams over the Raiders due to their past experiences here…

    AL: Shine my shoes motherfookers!

  459. SC Says:

    Cable said it early on in training camp about JaMarcus, “I would hope he would take that extra step in becoming a better player”.

    Well guess what JaMarcus…you didn’t! Now you’re paying for it!

  460. jhill Says:

    There are a ton of people at Alameda that still adore (probably the wrong term for a football blog) the shyt outta Gruden. Gruden even knows how to handle Al. Remember he said you take Al’s advice, and then draw up a scheme to show him why that won’t work, and he was cool with that.

    I know the old saying about stirring up old soup, but I think Gruden or Cowher HAVE to come to Oakland. I think you can go ahead and pencil in Shanny in Denver, unless Jerrah calls his old buddy Al for “permission”. I think Gruden and Cowher would take the job in a second. Steelers and Raiders as the only teams on your resume? Cmon!

  461. wishbone Says:

    Just Eat Baby!! I know I will be voting for JaIdiot to make the Pro Bowl. Nice job pimp daddy on that cool haircut.

  462. LA to TheBay Says:

    “84 MILLION GURANTEED WOW !!!!!!”

    Al getting athletes instead of players.

  463. Dakota Says:

    It is the head coach’s job to motivate the players into becoming better…whether it is through fear or respect that the players listen to the coach, it doesn’t really matter it just has to get done…Cable provides neither of those things.

    The only thing Cable is good at is coaching the o-line and kissing Al’s ass.

  464. los raiders de don rober Says:

    Man, yesterday sucked! We were plain and simply outcoached! I know that our offense is young, but that is no excuse for 12 out of 21 for 61 yds….61 yds! hahahaha! he can throw it 90 yards from the seat of his pants!

  465. los raiders de don rober Says:

    Before Jamarcus becomes a decent NFL QB he is gonna need a dammed Hooked on Phonics lesson or three.

  466. Larz Says:

    Play calling gave the team no chance to win.

    Your defense comes up with a goal line stand.

    You have the best punter in the world.

    What do you do.

    Seven steps and a bomb from a struggling passer to a rookie WR.

    Hand the ball off, punt and regroup.
    Feild position in these divisional games are “EVERYTHING”

    Tag this loss on the offensive play calling in the first quarter.
    The McFadden fumble was just the icing on the cake.

  467. 4evaRaider Says:

    Hello Happy Troll…

    The Denver Broncos defence played very good against da Raiders.Congratulations on a job well done =)

    No excuses

  468. RaiderRockstar Says:

    That first pass play from our 1 should have been caught, FB had it right in his hands

    ***

    Luke Lawton wasn’t even looking at Russell when JR threw the ball. He was surprised when he turned around and tried to catch it at the last second. Champ Bailey was closing in. That was almost a pick six. Don’t blame that on Lawton. That ball never should have been thrown!

  469. The Big Banana Says:

    JaMammoth, why do you sound like a blubbering idiot whenever you open your mouth?

  470. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    wishbone Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 8:53 am
    Just Eat Baby!! I know I will be voting for JaIdiot to make the Pro Bowl. Nice job pimp daddy on that cool haircut.
    ———————————
    JaIdiot is a good term. I was worried his uniform was going to split and his fat would explode.

  471. raidersnyc Says:

    all i can say is al is in his 80s and will be dead soon which means someone else will finally be able to buy the team and start over. We will continue to stink until that day. We have no talent on the offense just a bunch of projects that will never be stars. Look at all the players we could have had over the last 5 drafts and look at what we currently have. Al Davis must go.

  472. Larz Says:

    That Lawton play was dead before it started.

    Champ and Aso are the two best open feild tacklers in the game Lawton was lucky he didn’t catch it.

    Again a stupid call, stupid match-up.

  473. LA to TheBay Says:

    I’m sure I’ll be roasted for this remark, but I think that this could still be a winning team with Russell, McFadden, and DHB as the core along with Murphy, Bush, Seymour, and Aso.

    The problem is not the personell. We god rid of the dead weight.

    Lot of comments in here about how this O Line or many players wouldn’t be on any other team’s roster. That’s BS.

    As many penalties as he’s taken, Green can play the run real well and plays the pass better than the Cardinals’ bookends. You see Freeney blow them up last night?

    It’s a talented football team, and an athletic one.

    The problem is the GM and head coach.

    You got the athletes, Al, turn them into players. You scared off any serious coaching candidates, and the group you got in there ain’t bad, but they are really blowing it with playcalling.

    What happened since MNF opener?

    They were manhandling SD in every phase of the game. The coaches had these boys ready to play and believing they can win.

    Once the confidence is gone and the belief in winning is gone, the team will FIND ways to lose because it’s just not in their heads to win.

    And Seymour, I know you’re upset and I don’t know what Clady said/did to you, but this young squad is in desperate need of your leadership and for them to follow your example.

    I know you’re not used to losing much. Teach these boys how to win.

    Coaches certainly aren’t the way they called these last two games.

    No more home runs until DHB and Russell are on the same page.

    Run the ball. Dink and dunk. Move the chains.

    That’s my new motto unitl further notice.

    Don’t let us down again, Al.

    You need to learn that winning is its own reward. I know you want to do it your way and rub it in everyone’s face, but winning will be good enough.

    What the Fargas is going on here? You guys are acting like a bunch of Bushes. For the love of Charlie Frye….

  474. Raider Headbutt Says:

    RaiderRockstar I dont know what game you were watching but he had both hands on the ball Fb or not catch the ball, if you are running a route you expect a ball all the time. As for Champ closing in, fine, but Lawton dropped the pass so for you pick 6 that wasn’t even close

  475. LA to TheBay Says:

    “Larz Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 8:57 am
    Play calling gave the team no chance to win.

    Your defense comes up with a goal line stand.

    You have the best punter in the world.

    What do you do.

    Seven steps and a bomb from a struggling passer to a rookie WR.

    Hand the ball off, punt and regroup.
    Feild position in these divisional games are “EVERYTHING”

    Tag this loss on the offensive play calling in the first quarter.
    The McFadden fumble was just the icing on the cake.”

    Wow, exactly.

    Well put.

    Was it me, or did this game seem to just fly by? Denver eating clock like JaMarcus eats, um, everything.

    It was like we didn’t even really play offense. Certainly not an entire game’s worth.

    1 passing yard in the second half??? 1 fukin yard???

    This game was over in the first 5 minutes.

    Really, before we even took the field.

  476. vegas raider Says:

    Why our we throwing passes to Lawton, from our own one? Sounds like a recipe for disaster, has Lawton even touched the ball this season, before that?

  477. LA to TheBay Says:

    “wishbone Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 9:14 am
    LA whatever it is you smoking can I have some too?”

    Hell ya. You got 5 on it?

    What part did you think was a drug-induced hallucination?

    The part where I said we could win with those players?

    I’m right. Better coaches have won with much less talent, and far more smarts and gameplanning.

    Read what Larz said, we’re on the same page. He said it with a lot less words and knee-jerk reaction anger and frustration than I did.

  478. Larz Says:

    Mike Bush= 25 carries a game. most in the first half.
    DMAC= 5-6 carries late in the game, and a bunch of motion routes with 5-6 passes, and some Wildcat formations.

    Emphasise feild position instead of homeruns.

    Our Special Teams are excellent and force the other team into conservative playcalling.

    Please understand that a young team like this has to walk before it can run.

  479. wishbone Says:

    LA whatever it is you smoking can I have some too?

  480. R8rAgentBen Says:

    The only way we’re ever going back to winning is when the coaches can pry the scepter of decision making AND the playbook from Al Davis’ dead lifeless hands.

    But we’ve known this since we started our long suffering that came with Post Traumatic Superbowl Disorder (circa 2003).

  481. LA to TheBay Says:

    My frustration is magnified only because I think this could be a winning team now.

    What we all need to do is calm down and realize how young the team is, especially offense.

    It may take a few seasons to put this together. Davis himself said we were rebuilding.

  482. DirtyBathWater Says:

    I’ve been yeeling to the moon TAKE OUT DHB AND PLAY WALKER, CHAZ, AND MURPHY!!!!!!!

  483. No More Infield or Trolls Says:

    Last years draft I called for a trade down to get Clady and slide Henderson over to Rt. This year I called for a trade down to get Mack and Brace and maybe Brinkley. Solid players all. But Al has to go get hood ornaments before he buys the tires. I respect what Al has acomplished over his career and his devotion to the team, but come on the guy is not making rational decisions anymore.

  484. The Big Banana Says:

    Davis should be concentrating less on these petty little pi$ matches with people like Gannon and spending more time worrying about his QB.

  485. RaiderRockstar Says:

    I dont know what game you were watching but he had both hands on the ball Fb or not catch the ball, if you are running a route you expect a ball all the time. As for Champ closing in, fine, but Lawton dropped the pass so for you pick 6 that wasn’t even close

    ***

    Lawton wasn’t running a route. He was running out of the backfield to be a receiving option, but Russell threw the ball before he even turned around. poorly executed play by Russell. Lawton is a run blocker, pure & simple. He’s not McFadden, Bush or even Marcel Reece trying to reel in a dumpoff. He was kept on this team for two reasons #1 a backup FB in case Oren O’Neal couldn’t stay healthy #2 solid special teams contributer. You could argue that he shouldn’t have been in the game in that scenario, but he was in as an additional blocker. Denver dropped back instead of blitzing, so Lawton didn’t need to stay in & block. Lawton should be your last receiving option, not your first. dumb choice Russell, and bad throw as well …

  486. jhill Says:

    Speaking of Tommy Kelly …

    Ehhh, nevermind. I think we all can see the obvious!

  487. wishbone Says:

    The high schools in Mobile, AL must not test kids at all before giving them a diploma because IMO there is no way JaIdiot could pass an English final. When he was at LSU I heard his major was pancakes. Just Eat pimp daddy!!! I just had a great idea. Lets make Tommy Kelly QB and have JaIdiot play Dline.

  488. Larz Says:

    I think we have talent, but the feel for the game by the playcalling is very disturbing.

    I don’t know if that is something you can fix, and it will eat our young players up.

    Were is Chuck Knoxx when you need him……lol

  489. Dakota Says:

    We can’t give up on these players…they are talented and they are already paid…we just need the right coach to get them going.

    Mr. 16-45 Tom Cable is not qualified for the job. Never was, never will be.

  490. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Tom Cable is a better playcaller than Russell is a QB.

    with Cable there were only 8 times where I shouted at the TV “what are you thinking???”

    every time Russell drops back to pass I get this sick feeling in my stomach and it’s not gas. But it stinks just as much …

  491. jhill Says:

    The last 2 big armed QBs we’ve gotten our hands on are the prime example of how NOT to handle a young NFL QB.

    First, we saddle Andrew Walter with the vertical offense, and now Russell. Perfect analogy earlier about having the keys to the race car. Just give Cable, or more importantly AL a damn Hynundai. Then maybe we won’t see them trying to drive 80 in a 35.

  492. Raider Headbutt Says:

    RR ok so he was a receiving option, should not have been 1st option granted. Qbs depending where the throw is located are supposed to throw the ball so that when the reveiver turns the ball is there. Ther ball hit both of his hands. Il give you it wasn’t a good play call and not a good candidate to throw the ball to, but that catch still needs to be made.

  493. No More Infield or Trolls Says:

    Tommy Kelly who? Is he still on the team?

  494. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Are you ready for some SOUTHWICK!?!?

  495. DirtyBathWater Says:

    LMFAO!!!! Jamarcuss major pancakes??!? Dude I almost got in a car crash LOL THAT’S TOO DAMN FUNNY!

  496. Dakota Says:

    Russell sure had a nice stocking cap on the sideline though…what, was it only 70 degrees in Oakland yesterday?

  497. The Big Banana Says:

    “I know I’m not there yet. I know that. The best thing for myself is to keep preparing for Day 1 and go out and I’m going to keep on playing, until coach, we decide what we’re going to do, as far as, find a way, from coach on down until the last guy on the roster. We have to find a way to make ourselves better.
    ===================================================
    How do you guys like that our starting QB, who is playing like $h!t, is blaming his problems on everyone “from coach on down”? The line is playing well. And you can’t blame Miller or Murphy. Those guys are solid. You have a case with DHB but that’s all.

    Oh, and “I’m not there yet” is one big f’n understatement, JaMongous.

  498. Larz Says:

    We have teams shi**y teams on our schedule that we can open things up on.

    But our divisional games should be feild position first, egos second.

    I’m not seeing the logic in our game strategy and I’m looking hard.

    That was a wasted oprotunity yesterday, and you don’t get do overs.

  499. LA to TheBay Says:

    Dakota,

    I would have disagreed completely two weeks ago, when Cable had these boys playing. I think it was all summed up by the Branch tackle of Monstermaleuina at the LOS.

    They were hitting. Playing violent. Wanted to win and played like they knew, along with everyone in the stands and everyone watching, they were the better team. Or at least the team that wanted it more.

    I didn’t see any of that yesterday.

    Doesn’t matter if the players like him, responding to Cable means winning for him.

    Now it’s only week 3. I still think this is a .500 club with SERVICEABLE QB play. Not great, not good, not even decent. Serviceable.

    And we all know Russell is completely capable of it. He’s looked more awful now than at any other time in his career as a football player. By far. I don’t think he forgot how to be a QB overnight.

    Coach needs to step up for his QB and vice versa.

  500. Trolls 35 Raiders 0 Says:

    4evaRaider Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 8:58 am
    Hello Happy Troll…

    The Denver Broncos defence played very good against da Raiders.Congratulations on a job well done =)

    No excuses

    I knew you :cool: were a man of your word the first day I read your :cool: posts. The sad thing :-( is you guys are just one QB :mrgreen: and one owner/GM :evil: from being a good team again :idea:

  501. Raider Headbutt Says:

    Il be honest I say we win 4 games at the most this year. We will beat KC again i think, we will beat cleveland and one more mayb…

  502. DirtyBathWater Says:

    SOUTHWICK!!!!!! Lmfao, that’s even more funny!!!! Sure put in the clip board carrier lets see what he got..

  503. LA to TheBay Says:

    Russell is forcing it. It’s obvious.

    In the past, if it wasn’t there, check it down, punt the ball.

    I know you all hate that, but like Larz said, field position is key.

    Cable is calling these games like a frustrated kid playing Madden.

  504. Brien the General Says:

    # Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 9:27 am

    Are you ready for some SOUTHWICK!?!?
    *******************

    Haha, you gotta stop this lol. This is just too funny man

  505. vegas raider Says:

    Bruce Gradowski played better in his rookie year than Jamarcus is playing now.

    How long do with stick with Russell? I mean if we bench him for a few weeks, it doesn’t mean he is cut and will never get another chance to play. It is too early in the season to saddle a team with a bad QB due to his “development”.

    He can develop in week 12 when we are 4-7, right now we needs wins and momentum, and than see what happens.

    How can Al continue to force-feed Jamarcus on guys like Nmamdi, Howard, Ellis, Miller and the other professionals on the team?

  506. Brien the General Says:

    # LA to TheBay Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 9:16 am

    My frustration is magnified only because I think this could be a winning team now.

    What we all need to do is calm down and realize how young the team is, especially offense.

    It may take a few seasons to put this together. Davis himself said we were rebuilding.
    **************************

    Stop with your BS excuses man. You need to be more pissed off and realize that Russell is holding the team back and he isn’t a leader. He is a fat overpaid bum who doesnt give a damn if he is a great QB or not

  507. Raider Headbutt Says:

    RR a 3 yard gain to make 2nd and 7 and taking the snap from your own 4 instead of an incomplete pass 2nd and 10 from your own 1 is better is it not? If it was completed you don’t know if Cable would have called something else at that time either.

    Like I said, poor decision to throw the ball I am in total agreement with you. However the ball was there and needs to be caught.

  508. RaiderRockstar Says:

    that catch still needs to be made

    ***

    Headbutt: Even if Lawton did catch the pass, here’s the best case scenario. 3 yard gain.

    Chump Bailey was getting ready to level him if he caught the pass. Lawton wouldn’t have even seen it coming.

    Regardless, Lechler would be punting from the back of the endzone …

    Gannon basically said that Russell isn’t smart enough to make adjustments/audibles at the line. Said all of his barks are phony and the defense knows it, because the play doesn’t change after he starts mumbling.

  509. jhill Says:

    The fascination with Jamarcus is hilarious. Did he NOT sign an autograph for some of you? Did he bang your girl?

    Dmac fumbling on the opening drive to screw up field position.

    Dmac fumbling later in the game to set up a what 3rd and forever?

    Dmac fumbling on the way to a TD.

    Morrison being asked to defend Marhsall.

    Last years run D showing up and making Buckwhoever look like a pro bowler.

    DHB falling all over himself and giving up a pick.

    Bush only getting 5 carries.

    You guys are FOOLING yourself thinking that a QB change is going to make a difference. DHB and Murphy are NOT open way more often than they are. And you can forget about Miller for the rest of the year. Consider him doubled from here on out.

  510. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Jhill,

    it’s no lock that Gradkowski or Frye would fair any better than Russell at this point. However, can you say with confidence that they would fair far worse?

    I’m pretty sure they are:

    -smart enough to make adjustments at the line
    -execute screen passes & dumpoffs
    -scan the field rather than lock on 1 target
    -able to escape pressure
    -be accurate. give your guys a chance to make a play

    I mean these are just the basic fundamentals of football we’re talking about. I’m sure Russell has played the game his whole life, not just 2 years in Oakland. He’s always relied on the big arm. You need more than that to be a successful QB in the NFL. JaWalrus is missing just about everything else …

  511. Brien the General Says:

    Jamarcus Russell is on his way to being the biggest bust in NFL history

  512. vegas raider Says:

    The whole thing with the Lawton play is, why is he even in the position to be catching balls? He is a blocker and ST player, not a pass-catcher.

    Next thing I know, you are going to tell me we are going to have LB’s covering WR’s….

  513. jhill Says:

    RRS ..

    you NEED that 3 yds from Lawton!

    Make the damn catch. 2nd and 7 from the 4 instead of 2nd and 10 from the 1!

    Cmon!

    Like I said, there is enough BS happening on the field that there is no need to make up stuff. Lawton blew the play plain and simple.

  514. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Brien the General Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 9:35 am
    # Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 9:27 am

    Are you ready for some SOUTHWICK!?!?
    *******************

    Haha, you gotta stop this lol. This is just too funny man

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Wee need a QB who is on a mission from God. Right now we got a QB who is on a mission from Del Taco.

  515. jhill Says:

    Bring on Mike Vick and Tony Dungy!

  516. Brien the General Says:

    Jhill yep and that Luke Lawton is sure known for his hands lol

  517. Raider Headbutt Says:

    jhill Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 9:40 am
    RRS ..

    you NEED that 3 yds from Lawton!

    Make the damn catch. 2nd and 7 from the 4 instead of 2nd and 10 from the 1!

    Cmon!

    Like I said, there is enough BS happening on the field that there is no need to make up stuff. Lawton blew the play plain and simple.

    —————-

    Exactly, a positive play no matter how small is better than no gain plain and simple.

  518. LA to TheBay Says:

    Brien, I’m plenty pissed.

    I can’t make excuses, only assessments.

    A better QB would have us at 3-0, 2-1.

    That being said, it’s now on Cable.

    If he can’t execute the plays you’re calling, bench him. If its the WRs, put in someone else.

    I’ve see Russell play well. He plays well 10-25 yards downfield and dump off whenever that’s not available.

    He’s forcing more deep shots than any other NFL QB is asked to do.

    It’s a combination of things that has me pissed, and you can’t say ‘oh, its Russell, he sucks and we’d be good without him.’

    If Cable really wants to abandon the run and go deep, line up DMAC and/or Bush in the backfield with Russell in the shotgun, 3 WR/TE, 4 WR. Go intermediate and soften ‘em up for one or two shots down the field.

    This Madden 04 sht is inexcusable.

  519. RaidingTexas Says:

    It only took three games for Seymour to become infected by the disgruntled losing mentality that is commensurate with being an Oakland Raider.

    I feel sorry for the guy now. He had every right to throw a tantrum when he found out he was traded. This team is still a fkn disaster.

  520. Brien the General Says:

    # jhill Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 9:38 am

    The fascination with Jamarcus is hilarious. Did he NOT sign an autograph for some of you? Did he bang your girl?

    Dmac fumbling on the opening drive to screw up field position.

    Dmac fumbling later in the game to set up a what 3rd and forever?

    Dmac fumbling on the way to a TD.

    Morrison being asked to defend Marhsall.

    Last years run D showing up and making Buckwhoever look like a pro bowler.

    DHB falling all over himself and giving up a pick.

    Bush only getting 5 carries.

    You guys are FOOLING yourself thinking that a QB change is going to make a difference. DHB and Murphy are NOT open way more often than they are. And you can forget about Miller for the rest of the year. Consider him doubled from here on out.
    *****************************

    I dont want no stinkin autograph from anyone. They need to ask for mines dammit! Bang my beezy? Please I could care less I’m not like a lot of weak men in the USA who would be bitter about it. I’d offer the broad to him.

    Yes DMAC fumbled or whatever and had a bad game but how many bad games in a row has Russell had? The QB has W-L stats to justify his production. No other spot on the roster has that responsibility and he isnt doing it.

    Oh now its DHB’s fault for Russell stinking up the joint LOL. Russell’s deep pass sucks man. Ball floats too high in the air and the damn thing was going to be picked off anyway.

    Yeah I want Bush to get more carries hell I want to run the ball more but Al Davis has Russell as his pet Scholarship prize so we shall see the Raiders try to pass the ball more than they should

  521. jhill Says:

    vegas raider Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 9:35 am

    Bruce Gradowski played better in his rookie year than Jamarcus is playing now.

    ——————————————————

    LOL!

    Who far have we sank for the Gradkowski calls to start.

    OMFG!

    F it!

    Bring him on. Hackett loves the kid. He was with Gruden and Hackett in Tampa, right. I guess we can get a head start on installing Gruden’s offense!

  522. RaiderRockstar Says:

    The whole thing with the Lawton play is, why is he even in the position to be catching balls? He is a blocker and ST player, not a pass-catcher.

    ***

    Agreed Vegas. How many people backed Bush’s stand not to play FB? about 90 percent of Raider Nation!

    “i have no desire to run my head into a brick wall” i believe he said

    yet Lawton is a guy expected to be a pass catching FB?

    how many WR’s catch a ball with Champ Bailey closing in, much less a stinking fullback… give me a break

    you guys are really reaching trying to makes excuses for Russell, but his play on the field speaks for itself.

  523. Brien the General Says:

    Russell apologists<———–will wait until 2013 to finally stop defending his sorry ass

  524. jhill Says:

    Brien the General Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 9:46 am

    Jhill yep and that Luke Lawton is sure known for his hands lol

    —————————————————–

    Agreed! Talk to the Cable guy for calling that play. Right up there with the single back set featuring Oren ONeal.

    Comical!

  525. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Resign Andrew Walter! Bench Janormous Bustell for at least one game. The kid needs to WAKE UP!

  526. LA to TheBay Says:

    Brien.

    Who is your guy at QB?

    Gradkowski? Accused of throwing a game in college.

    Frye? Traded after starting one game.

    Garcia? Dink and dunk don’t fly in Oakland and hasn’t since Gannon went down.

    Are you writing off the season and hoping we draft Colt McCoy?

    I think we do draft a QB next year, just not in the 1st round. I say 3-5.

  527. Raider Headbutt Says:

    JR is garbage and we will not have a good winning team with him plain and simple, but I will say this.

    Game 1: He left the field with the lead, we lost that game because of a soft defense because of the play calling, whether marshall wants to say it wasn’t prevent or not, I have never seen a base defense where the LB’s play at the first down sticks.

    Game 2: He stunk it up, however we came away with the win so it doesn’t matter.

    Game 3: He stunk it up, he hasn’t improved over 3 games, in fact he has gotten worse. Play calling was a huge issue in this game as everyone knows.

    Bottom line is that with the play calling and the QB we have we will not have a winning season.

  528. Brien the General Says:

    Gradkowski sucks but at least he would have an excuse for sucking. What is Russell’s excuse?

  529. LA to TheBay Says:

    “Gradkowski sucks but at least he would have an excuse for sucking. What is Russell’s excuse?”

    He’s being told to stop dumping off and throw the ball 50 yards downfield to rookie WRs.

  530. vegas raider Says:

    Bruce has had some decent moments and some bad moments, wherever he ultimately lands I don’t think the book is completely closed on him.

    -Gradkowski set the record for throwing more passes in NFL history before suffering a second career interception(200).

    He is a record-holder LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!

  531. Dakota Says:

    GOOOOOOOOOOOO LAKERS!!!!!

  532. new englandraider Says:

    hey dakota, if kobe lamar drew and pau stay healthy, 70 plus w’s

  533. Brien the General Says:

    RaiderRockStar……..I agree with you. This crap is inexcusable

  534. jhill Says:

    I’m pretty sure they are:

    -smart enough to make adjustments at the line
    -execute screen passes & dumpoffs
    -scan the field rather than lock on 1 target
    -able to escape pressure
    -be accurate. give your guys a chance to make a play

    ——————————————————

    Anyone who watched the game yesterday saw Gannon run a breakdown of how Russell actually DOES scan the field looking for different receivers. His eyes are moving all over the place as they showed with the sparkling special effects.

    Now Russell can’t dump the call off, or execute a screen? Well Miller and the WRs didn’t have any catches yesterday, so who does that leave?

    There are only 3 WRs in the pattern. 2 rookies and Miller. He tennds to look Miller’s way, wouldn’t you? DHB? Puh-Leeze! Murphy? I think JRuss missed him once yesterday on that last drive. He’s not open man!

    Accurate? He was 9/13 in the first half with a drop from Lawton, the Miller play on the sidelines that got overturned, and two DHB lackluster efforts.

    JRuss as a leader is not getting it done, and all the other stuff you guys say. No argument there. BUT you guys are CRAZY if you think Gradkowski is going to fix any of this. Is he going to make DMac hold on to the ball? Will he make sure LBs are not covering WRs? Will Gradkowski stop the run? Will he get Bush more carries?

    Russell, Russell, Russell …. We are NOT a QB away people.

  535. Dakota Says:

    Coaching
    Coaching
    Coaching

    Russell has shown us flashes of talent…he just needs someone that can get it out of him.

    Cable, Tolner and Hackett have teamed up this year to make him even worse than before.

    Just an Al Davis disastrous coaching soup that is leading us nowhere, combined with a QB that is not self-motivated…not good.

    We need a strong HC that is capable of demanding the players’ respect…

  536. wishbone Says:

    I really don’t think bring someone in right now would matter. Al’s MO has always been to stick with the QB with the big arm. He also doesn’t like to pay a lot of money to someone who isn’t playing. Lastly, Al will ride this horse until it’s dead because it was his pick. Last year when he fired Kiffin he announced that JaIdiot was not Kiffin’s pick and JaIdiot was going to be great for a long time. If Cable even trys to bench him he just might get canned. So, Raider Nation JaIdiot is going to be the guy for the rest of this season & all of next season guaranteed.

  537. Brien the General Says:

    Please the Lakers are done. Crazy ass Ron Artest and Lamar Odom is now an official sucker for Marrying a Kardashian slut. Odom was the only Laker I liked but this guy deserves the hell he is about to get.

  538. Brien the General Says:

    DMAC had a bad game yesterday no doubt. Jhill how many awful games have we seen from Russell in his career. I’ll wait

  539. RaidingTexas Says:

    Well, leaving Russell in there sure isn’t going to accomplish anything. May as well try the next guy in line. I don’t care if Gradkowski was accused of throwing a game in college. Russell can’t even throw IN a game.

  540. new englandraider Says:

    lakers r done???? r u serious? they r still plenty young. i do agree that artest is a wild card here, but an overall upgrade over ariza. without lamar last year, they dont win. period.

  541. Brien the General Says:

    You guys are just nuts in here to rip DMAC and let Russell off the hook. Realize that without DMAC you dont even win in KC this year and last year. That is a damn fact.

    Oh yes we are a QB away. Could you imagine how much better offense would be if Russell hit his targets 50 percent of the time? Team would be 2-1 still feeling confident and ready to beat Houston.

    Russell is mad with two rooks out there? OK as the leader of the team why not go to the coaching staff and even front office brass and express this vehemently? Yeah some leader

  542. vegas raider Says:

    Accurate? He was 9/13 in the first half with a drop from Lawton, the Miller play on the sidelines that got overturned, and two DHB lackluster efforts.

    ********************************

    Very true JHill, the Miller throw was actually a pretty good throw, and was an inch or two from setting up a 60 yard FG attempt. They way Seabass is going, he might have drilled it.

    Like I said earlier, everyone panned DHB as a #7 pick, but even his critics said he was one of the premier jump and catch guys in the draft.

    I haven’t seen one instance in preseason or through 3 games that even remotely backs that up. The passes weren’t great, but neither was his effort.

  543. RaiderRockstar Says:

    funny how Cable thought Justin Fargas would make a huge difference against the Chiefs. then he goes in during the second half against denver and absolutely stinks up the place. no vision. no hands.

    211 yards on 42 carries is over 5 yards per carry! they dominated time of possession and field position. kept their defense fresh. Funny thing is, this should be our gameplan! With Cable calling for a balanced offense with long throws down the field 1 of 2 things need to happen. #1 Russell needs to develop a chemistry with these young WR’s and improve his accuracy or #2 Cable needs to find those training wheels that Kiffin tried to protect him with last year.

  544. jhill Says:

    It’s funny how pointing out other areas of the team that suck = making excuses for Russell.

    Sounds to me like you guys are making excuses for everyone else.

    Well, if Russell was more accurate, then DMac’s fumbles wouldn’t be that big of a deal.

    Well if Russell was more accurate, the the defense giving up 24 pts a game would matter.

    Well if Russell wouldn’t have thrown the ball to DHB on that play, then ….. he would have been sacked in the endzone and you guys would be crying about him holding the ball too long.

    It’s really easy to make Russell the excuse for Cable, DMac, the Dline, STs coverage … LOL!

    Gimme a break. They ALL suck!

  545. new englandraider Says:

    luck title? ive lost my mind? dont 4get artest will get the same open looks ariza did. i’ll bet you ariza dont do as well as 2nd or 3rd option in hou. he was option 5 or 6 here. that being said i respected his game. and u need not call anyone an idiot. because we r all raiders fans here, so i kinda think we r all idiots. lol.

  546. 2romes Says:

    I My veiw Russell has never dedicated himself fully to be a top tier quarterback.Before he came to the Raiders he was a stout individual. Now Russell is tipping the scale in the direction of porportionally obese.The reason I’m so critical of Russell in this area is because the best aspect of his game has decline dramatically in only three years.The best part of his game use to be him getting out of the pocket and heaving the ball in the direction of the receiver after a play has broken down. Many times when a play has broken down a receiver may gain greater separtion from a defender which makes the throw for the quarterback easier.This part of his game is going,going,not gone,but still going.
    Now let go to making Russell the Quarterback we want him to be and that is a pocket quarterback.Has he ever been infamously know for shreading the defenses in the pocket with his pin point accuracy? Has this aspect of his game been demonstrated in some consistant basis through training camps? This is what I see when Russell stands in the pocket. screen plays and flare passes to the running backs are difficult for him. I see indecisiveness,lack of understanding defenses,lack of dedication for fitness and fundamentals,and the lack of precision. Will we get what we want out of Russell eventually? How long will that take? Should the Raider team sacifice this season when they have good players in place to make for a competitive season? I wamt to make Russell happen,I want to make him credible and have the money spent on him pay off. By the way, does the sleeve on his right throwing arm serve any viable purpose. If it does not why wear it? I see it as one factor that may be hindering is accurateness.
    In may opinion, Russell did not give 100% to the Raiders. What Russell use to do best in the past he can no longer do now in his current condition.
    Raiders be with You.

  547. Brien the General Says:

    # new englandraider Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 10:05 am

    lakers r done???? r u serious? they r still plenty young. i do agree that artest is a wild card here, but an overall upgrade over ariza. without lamar last year, they dont win. period.
    ******************

    Done as far as winning titles. Kobe got his luck title so you Lkaer idiots can celebrate that but you aren’t winning back to back titles. Ron Ron isnt an upgrade over Ariza. You have lost your damn mind. Artest isnt improving every game as a player. Ariza is. Lamar is a great all around player and saves the Lakers over and over again. His head wont be in it now that he has this slut for a wife who will be around LA sniffing rails and sleeping with any Producer to get ahead. Damn fool

  548. LA to TheBay Says:

    Jhill,

    Well put.

    Russell does scan the field. In his three better games last year (@ Denver, vs. Houston, @ TB) he was going from 1 to 2 to 3 and even back to one and getting the ball downfield.

    On one play, defenses doubled Miller, Russell gets the ball to Chaz. Great ball placement where only WR can get it, Chaz positions his body to shield ball from defenders and gets vertical. Lelie bails him out by following his eyes. Russell freezes CBs and LBs.

    Next play, defenses decide to keep a safety over top and take away the post for Schilens? over the middle to Zach. Neither open? Higgins.

    It’s all there on film.

    He is not being given the opportunity.

    2009
    O Gameplan: go deep.
    D Gameplan: man up.

    Come on….

  549. Trolls 35 Raiders 0 Says:

    jhill Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 9:40 am
    RRS ..

    you NEED that 3 yds from Lawton!

    Make the damn catch. 2nd and 7 from the 4 instead of 2nd and 10 from the 1!

    Cmon!

    Lawton :mrgreen: makes the catch and a football move. Champ Bailey :cool: lays the smack down on the FB :mrgreen: and the ball squirts out of his :oops: hands. Reynaldo Hill :cool: scoops up the ball and runs it back for 6 :-)

  550. Richochet Says:

    RaidingTexas Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 9:47 am
    It only took three games for Seymour to become infected by the disgruntled losing mentality that is commensurate with being an Oakland Raider.

    I feel sorry for the guy now. He had every right to throw a tantrum when he found out he was traded. This team is still a fkn disaster.
    ============
    Seymour had a double dip.
    Seymour: “Went from the penthouse to the outhouse”

    Then, after two weeks with the Raiders?
    From a class act, to a ass act.

    Pulling someone’s hair?
    Isn’t that what girls do?

    Way to crash and burn, Seymour.

    I’m sure everyone who gave Seymour a heads up regarding the Raiders are shaking their heads, muttering “exactly what we were talking about”

  551. Crude Earl Says:

    HEY JaPorkus….can you say Marinovich?

  552. RaidingTexas Says:

    Amen, Brien. It begins with the quarterback play. Period. Until you have someone reliable at that position, it doesn’t matter what you have elsewhere.

  553. Brien the General Says:

    24+10+13= 47 points. Divide that by 3 and how many points is the defense giving up? Thank you! A competent NFL offense needs to average 20 pts a game or more sp spare me Jhill with another excuse my friend.

    Who is leader? Who is the face of the franchise? Who is the guy not putting in the extra work? Who is the guy getting called out by college teammates? Who is the guy being seen around the Bay Area partying left and right? Who is the guy that held out? Who is the guy that doesn’t take responsibility for his trash play? Who is the guy that can’t complete passes?

  554. socaljim949 Says:

    I am a glass half full type of guy but wow that was pathetic yesterday. We are about to experience another meltdown like the 2006 season unless changes are made now.
    I was only able to see the end of 3rd quarter and most of 4th quarter. The sports bar I was at turned the game off before the end of game because the game was done Broncos had it in the bag.
    Our #1 problem is JRussell. I have been supportive of this guy since day 1 but eventually you have to let things go. He relies on his arm strength way too much and has zero touch on the ball. I am questioning his desire because I think you either have the ability or you don’t. JRuss either has the talent and does not work hard, or does not have enough talent. I don’t think there is an inbetween. I do want him to succeed, but when the Raiders could be winning right now with an average quarterback you have to put feelings aside and just play to win.

    If I was headcoach of the Raiders I would:

    1) Talk to JRuss and explain to him that his performance is not NFL starter caliber, the results speak for themselves.

    2) Move JRuss to 2nd string

    3) Move Gradowski to starter

  555. Brien the General Says:

    # Trolls 35 Raiders 0 Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 10:09 am

    jhill Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 9:40 am
    RRS ..

    you NEED that 3 yds from Lawton!

    Make the damn catch. 2nd and 7 from the 4 instead of 2nd and 10 from the 1!

    Cmon!

    Lawton :mrgreen: makes the catch and a football move. Champ Bailey :cool: lays the smack down on the FB :mrgreen: and the ball squirts out of his :oops: hands. Reynaldo Hill :cool: scoops up the ball and runs it back for 6 :-)
    **********************

    That is quite possible the way how things were going with Cable not calling the right plays

  556. jhill Says:

    How many times yesterday did we see reciever make plays on the ball Vegas?

    That catch that Wayne made going OOB? Driver’s one handed catch? That catch Lewis made to end the Vikings game? The rookie Garcon going to get that pass from Manning?

    Now to be fair to DHB, I haven’t seen him run one quick slant or 5 yd hook to date! Look at the plays that Percy Harvin is getting and scoring on. Quick swing passes and short routes. Cable and Al are making DHB very easy to cover.

  557. jhill Says:

    24+10+13= 47 points

    What is that ????

    24 to SD, 10 to KC, and what is the 13?

    Tell you what B …

    You can keep making excuses for DMac fumbling on MNF to give SD it first TD. And you can keep making excuses for DMac fumbling 3 times yesterday. Me, I’ll cut my losses and lobby for Bush to get the majority of the carries.

    Meanwhile, I’ve repeatedly said let’s go to Gradkowski. Heck, I’m already looking forward to Vick and Dungy next year. Not sure how I that makes me a Russell guy. Again, pointing out other areas that need improvement = Russell excuse. That’s crazy!

  558. wishbone Says:

    Cable is only doing what Al tell him. The players don’t respect the coaches because they know that Al pulls all their strings. Players have no discipline & don’t practice the right way. You basically have the inmate running the asylum. Whenever a player screws up and gets an earfull from Cable they just give him the finger and say “I’ll tell Al”. A bunch of overpaid, ignorant punks instead of a football team. Until we get someone like Gruden who will stand up to Al this will continue. Best advice is to sneak into Al’s office and loosen the wheels on his walker. Once he get near the stairs whooooooops. Just Die Baby.

  559. Brien the General Says:

    # new englandraider Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 10:06 am

    luck title? ive lost my mind? dont 4get artest will get the same open looks ariza did. i’ll bet you ariza dont do as well as 2nd or 3rd option in hou. he was option 5 or 6 here. that being said i respected his game. and u need not call anyone an idiot. because we r all raiders fans here, so i kinda think we r all idiots. lol.
    *************************

    You are a fan. I’m above a fan dammit. It is an insult to call me one buddy. And look simpleton I was calling Lamar an idiot. Raider fans are idiots I agree.

    As for Artest, get the same looks as Ariza? Ron cant create anymore nor can he really hit the open 3 pointer like Ariza. Ron Ron plays great defense but he isnt the high energy player that Ariza is. ron Ron is getting old man and his game is regressing. dont worry, you will see when Ron Ron consoles Kobe naked in the shower again over a loss in the playoffs

  560. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Darrius Heyward-Bey & Louis Murphy have a combined 9 catches in 3 games. Everybody wants to blame them for Russell’s regression. DHB is known for 2 things #1 speed and #2 route running/NFL ready. He had one knock on him coming out of the draft and it was a big one – HANDS. How many passes has DHB dropped in 3 games? I count 2, but the stat sheet says 1. Murphy has impressed almost everybody as a 4th Round pick. JR has 44 incomplete passes. You’re going to blame how many on these guys? and I keep hearing this too “DHB should have went up for that ball and it wouldn’t be an interception” REALLY? when you get tripped up and you’re falling down and can jump above 2 defenders and make the catch anyway? I don’t think i’d expect Larry Fitzgerald to make a play like that!

    If Russell isn’t accurate, how are these guys supposed to make plays? I GUARANTEE you that any other starting QB in the league would be putting up some serious points with the way that the O-Line has been playing and weapons like McFadden, Bush and Zach Miller at his disposal. The defense can’t be on the field 37 minutes with 45 running plays and expect to have the same intensity they did entering the ballgame. It just won’t happen. The offense needs to sustain drives and play turnover free football. Give your defense good field position, otherwise your putting your defense in a position to fail. I don’t want to hear anything else about the run defense.

  561. Richochet Says:

    LA to TheBay Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 10:07 am
    Jhill,

    Well put.

    Russell does scan the field. In his three better games last year (@ Denver, vs. Houston, @ TB) he was going from 1 to 2 to 3 and even back to one and getting the ball downfield.

    On one play, defenses doubled Miller, Russell gets the ball to Chaz. Great ball placement where only WR can get it, Chaz positions his body to shield ball from defenders and gets vertical. Lelie bails him out by following his eyes. Russell freezes CBs and LBs.

    Next play, defenses decide to keep a safety over top and take away the post for Schilens? over the middle to Zach. Neither open? Higgins.

    It’s all there on film.

    He is not being given the opportunity.

    2009
    O Gameplan: go deep.
    D Gameplan: man up.

    Come on….
    ==================
    Tell me something. Do you save when buying speedos, considering you get the “No huevos” brand?

    22

    22 qb rating.

    OH..I’m sorry. You’re confused..you don’t put that 22 on Russell?
    It’s not a 65..or even a 48..where you can say “dropped ball, tipped pass” etc..IT’S THE LEVEL OF QB RATING THAT WOULD GET 99 OUT OF 100 QB’S BENCHED/RELEASED.
    You add it the prior two weeks of 44, and 46, and you have a bonified joke behind center.

    Not sure who’s a bigger joke, Russell stating “I’m good with how I’m progressing” or you with the “wahhh..it’s not his fault..it’s not..IT’S NOT!!!’

  562. Brien the General Says:

    No Jhill, Russell is doing that. We saw DHB only catch of the year on a slant…..well sort of a post pattern but still nonetheless I dont see the guy as a problem as much as Russell is.

  563. Kirk Says:

    “Broncos second-year left offensive tackle Ryan Clady extended his streak of not allowing a full sack to 19 games. It’s the longest-active streak among starting tackles and tied for the NFL record for the most consecutive games without a sack allowed at the start of one’s career.”

    This is why we suck.

    We could have drafted Clady instead of McFumble.

  564. vegas raider Says:

    JHill,

    We did see DHB on one 5 yard hook on opening night, but he dropped the ball.

    Your right, other than Murphy none of our guys go up and attack the ball at the point of catch.

    They all make themselves very easy to cover. Has DHB ever even lined up in the slot? He rarely ever goes in motion. Just line up outside and run a deep out, laughable!!!

  565. jhill Says:

    Brien the General Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 10:19 am

    No Jhill, Russell is doing that. We saw DHB only catch of the year on a slant…..well sort of a post pattern but still nonetheless I dont see the guy as a problem as much as Russell is.

    —————————————————–

    Ok, you are on one now! DHB and DMac are not part of the problem?

    Look at how you describe the pattern DHB ran .. “We saw DHB only catch of the year on a slant…..well sort of a post pattern” … WHAT! And EXACTLY!

    Those are the type of patterns that a rookie WR runs more often than not and you are suppossed to have timing with that. Should JRuss guess slant, or post pattern? Sit down or explode out of the break? What if he’s DHB zigs when JRuss thought he we was going to zag?

    LMFAO! See example A and B (JRuss two attempts to DHB) from yesterday’s game.

    DHB isn’t part of the problem? LOL!

  566. Brien the General Says:

    Cable and the offense are limited on the playbook due to Russell not being that good of a QB

  567. Brien the General Says:

    # vegas raider Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 10:20 am

    JHill,

    We did see DHB on one 5 yard hook on opening night, but he dropped the ball.

    Your right, other than Murphy none of our guys go up and attack the ball at the point of catch.

    They all make themselves very easy to cover. Has DHB ever even lined up in the slot? He rarely ever goes in motion. Just line up outside and run a deep out, laughable!!!
    *********************

    Yep that is true but VR, the dropsies and fumbles are things that can be worked on so DHB and DMAC are something to still have hope for. An inaccurate QB is the hardest thing to correct. Russell doesnt have it

  568. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Wishbone, here here. You nailed it. And, I thought Cable was like Gruden. I was impressed with the way he ran the ball the last couple of weeks. Then he comes out against Denver and we run 20 times? There is no excuse for this team to run the ball only 20 times with the personnel we have now. No excuse. 30 times a game, at least. Until our receivers are developed, or until we have a real veteran or two with a sure set of hands. All of these coaches abandoning the run and going pass happy on us. Only constant: Al Davis. Hmmmm…

  569. Charlie Says:

    There is not any ONE thing wrong with the Raider offense.

    It is several things that given the wrong set of circumstances cause failure.

    We have virtually NO eperience at all of the skill positions and a weak offensive line.
    Hardly a recipe for success.

    The mistake that the coaching staff has made is thinking this offense is further along than it is.
    The only options we have is scale things back and minimize the chance for turnovers like we did at the end of last season.

  570. Thec07 Says:

    Sheeple, and yes men do as they are told under ALL circumstances…..

  571. Brien the General Says:

    Super Duper yawwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnnn. Dmac has fumbled this year and I got on his head but Bush isnt a better RB than he is. Sorry just the facts. I like Bush but watch when teams have to focus on Bush he wont do as great as many of yall think. Now I want the Raiders to use both of them and split the reps because it gives us more chances to get first downs.

    The fumbles can be corrected, but inaccuracy cant. Gradkowski? LOL for what? That guy is terrible as well. You guys would be happy just winning 6 games. Hell I’ll keep Russell in and win 3 games so I can get Terrence Mount Cody because Gerard Warren sucks

  572. new englandraider Says:

    hey brien, im a simpleton? did you know that YOUR is a possesion term like your car, your idiotic comments. then we have the contraction YOU’RE. as in you’re an idiot. you’re a simp and YOUR grammar is on par with a 9 year old

  573. vegas raider Says:

    Brien,

    Why I don’t know, but even now I have slighly more confidence in Russell than D-Mac and DHB. That could all change, but D-Mac looks very pedestrian on 90% of his touches, and ball security was an issue in college and now the pro’s. It probably will always be. I doubt he will be any better than Harvey Williams.

    His talents could be utilized a lot better, but he gets creamed whenever he enters the second-level on a run, rarely does he make his man miss or come up empty on a tackle attempt.

    Put him on KO’s, 3rd downs and as a change of pace. Bush is much more of an NFL back than D-Mac is.

  574. Brien the General Says:

    # Charlie Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 10:25 am

    There is not any ONE thing wrong with the Raider offense.

    It is several things that given the wrong set of circumstances cause failure.

    We have virtually NO eperience at all of the skill positions and a weak offensive line.
    Hardly a recipe for success.

    The mistake that the coaching staff has made is thinking this offense is further along than it is.
    The only options we have is scale things back and minimize the chance for turnovers like we did at the end of last season.
    *****************

    And how do you do that? Using Dmac and Bush predominantly but they want to make a hero out of zero named Russell

  575. Brien the General Says:

    # new englandraider Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 10:27 am

    hey brien, im a simpleton? did you know that YOUR is a possesion term like your car, your idiotic comments. then we have the contraction YOU’RE. as in you’re an idiot. you’re a simp and YOUR grammar is on par with a 9 year old
    *******************

    Haha now this is a post of a guy who is a loser. Instead of countering what I said he goes to grammar lol. Weak little man who gets ran over his fat woman of a wife. Look here MR. Mom I can care less about perfect grammar. This is a blog not English class you idiot.

  576. Charlie Says:

    Brien

    Running the ball about sixty percent of the time is a start.
    Quick tosses, draws, traps etc.

    Pass on running downs; slants, rollouts, screens.

    We will have to take some deep shots so let them be a simply deep post or a fly pattern.Things involving multiple checkdowns are going to have to wait.

    We did it towards the end of last year and it was effective. Our scheme does not fit our talent and that includes a marginal Oline.

  577. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # Brien the General Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 10:20 am

    Cable and the offense are limited on the playbook due to Russell not being that good of a QB

    ………….

    Then why was Cable, or whoever calls our plays, calling passing plays regardless?

  578. jhill Says:

    Here we go with the in accurate stuff again. That is so tired.

    JRuss arguably had ONE bad throw in the first half yesterday.

    The KC game was an example of ultimate inaccuracy, but the SD was NOT. There were AT least 6 clear drops in that game. And we won’t talk about the zig-zig factor, and hail mary INT.

    The KC game was all on Russell. Other than that, these have been bad TEAM performances!

    JRuss could be 20-30, throw for 275 yds and 3 TDs, and all we would here about was how bad the 10 misses were.

  579. new englandraider Says:

    brien, i need not counter what you say about the raiders. you r pretty much balls on accurate about them. i do agree with much of what you’re saying. its the laker thing that got to me.

  580. vegas raider Says:

    MR,

    4 of the first 5 plays are passes.

    Than we run twice, get a first down, and yup another deep pass, for a pick.

    Game over.

  581. new englandraider Says:

    who’s worse? russel or HEROINOVICH?

  582. 4evaRaider Says:

    Thank You Happy Troll…we’ll have many more bets this year,I’m sure

  583. Thec07 Says:

    70’s defense vs 2k offense = losing season……
    70’s offence vs 2k defense = losing seasons…..
    70’s organization = losing seasons…..
    70’s mindset = losing seasons…..

    In this debacle what is the constant…

    Yes men, lackeys, shepple, and Mr Davis…….

  584. Brien the General Says:

    # jhill Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 10:20 am

    Brien the General Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 10:19 am

    No Jhill, Russell is doing that. We saw DHB only catch of the year on a slant…..well sort of a post pattern but still nonetheless I dont see the guy as a problem as much as Russell is.

    —————————————————–

    Ok, you are on one now! DHB and DMac are not part of the problem?

    Look at how you describe the pattern DHB ran .. “We saw DHB only catch of the year on a slant…..well sort of a post pattern” … WHAT! And EXACTLY!

    Those are the type of patterns that a rookie WR runs more often than not and you are suppossed to have timing with that. Should JRuss guess slant, or post pattern? Sit down or explode out of the break? What if he’s DHB zigs when JRuss thought he we was going to zag?

    LMFAO! See example A and B (JRuss two attempts to DHB) from yesterday’s game.

    DHB isn’t part of the problem? LOL!
    **************************

    On one………n-gga I been on 3 all since yesterday! You have no clue about being on one!

    Dmac is just fine and the team wouldnt have won a damn game without him thus far. The fumblitis isnt cool at all and you have been in here when I said that. Still the guy have moved the chains more than anyone on the team.

    Timing? LOL how do you get timing Jhill? Dont you work on those things? And if you are still struggling dont you put in extra time on it? Didn’t Russell say he was gonna start doing that? LOL

    I saw Russell miss examples A and B to the DHB. INTs and a loss. DHB doesnt have a win loss record but Russell does. Excuses excuses.

    Last year the veteran WRs stunk and then a rookie sna 2nd year player came in with hardly any experience and did cool. We got two rookies so what? The QB has missed them repeatedly during the season and if you are denial about that then that is on you

  585. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Here we go with the in accurate stuff again. That is so tired.

    ***

    Raider Nation is tired of the inaccuracy. Didn’t you hear the boo’s yesterday?

    you’re defending Russell more than his coaches & teammates are! I’m pretty sure there is a reason for that …

  586. LA to TheBay Says:

    If I were Murphy or DHB, I’d be pretty upset with Cable/Davis for not getting me more/better opportunities to make plays.

    If I’m JaMarcus, I’m sending Chaz Schilens a get well soon card and making him chicken noodle soup (with some cortizone mixed in ;) every day.

  587. Brien the General Says:

    # vegas raider Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 10:27 am

    Brien,

    Why I don’t know, but even now I have slighly more confidence in Russell than D-Mac and DHB. That could all change, but D-Mac looks very pedestrian on 90% of his touches, and ball security was an issue in college and now the pro’s. It probably will always be. I doubt he will be any better than Harvey Williams.

    His talents could be utilized a lot better, but he gets creamed whenever he enters the second-level on a run, rarely does he make his man miss or come up empty on a tackle attempt.

    Put him on KO’s, 3rd downs and as a change of pace. Bush is much more of an NFL back than D-Mac is.
    *********************

    Harvey Williams was worse than Farglass are you kiddng me.

    Yeah have confidence in a guy who couldnt throw the football inthe ocean VR. Damn those Vegas drinks must get stiffer as time goes on lol

  588. wishbone Says:

    I think there is a realistic possibility of losing all 13 games left. JaIdiot will not be pulled for any reason other than injury. 2009 season will go down in history for the worst full time starting QB to ever have an under 40% completion rate and under 30 QB rating. Al would much prefer to lose with his guys, plays & schemes than win with someone elses. When he says all he wants to do is win he is not telling the whole truth. He wants to win with all of his choices. Not gonna happen when you are a senial, old goat who still thinks its 1977.

  589. Brien the General Says:

    Brien<———-damn near got into a few fights yesterday because of the truth telling. you know what I said?

    "Black people in the Bay Area only defend Russell because he is black. The facts ofthe matter are there has only been one black QB to be drafted and shown to be a franchise QB and his name is Donovan McNaab."

    Boy were people pissed but tell me I am wrong.

  590. Thec07 Says:

    The organization could make one move that would at least start the fix and repair of this organization.

    I say organization because the whole organization is beyond dysfunctional….

    Shepple, Yes men, lackeys both male and female…..

  591. RaiderRockstar Says:

    JaMarcus Russell makes me miss Aaron Brooks…

  592. Trolls 35 Raiders 0 Says:

    4evaRaider Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 10:34 am
    Thank You Happy Troll…we’ll have many more bets this year,I’m sure

    4eva :cool: I’m sure that we will :-) Who is my favorite team next week :lol:

  593. wishbone Says:

    Brien ever hear of Doug Williams, Warren Moon or Steve McNair?

  594. Richochet Says:

    Kind of funny watching some of you desperately scramble to defend Russell.

    NO COINCIDENCE that it’s the exact same ones who couldn’t shut the hell up all preseason on how they guaranteed Russell ws going to “step it up”.

    Ok, let me simplify it for ya’ll.

    ONE STARTING PLAYER ON THE TEAM has either been THE worst, or close to the worst at his position, each of the previous 3 weeks.

    WHO MIGHT THAT BE??

    ONE STARTING PLAYER ON THE TEAM is currently the WORST IN THE NFL, AT HIS POSITION.

    Just one.

    Again..whom is it?

    Save the idiot replies, like from Jhill and LA to the Sty about “Oh, let’s blame the defense..let’s blame McFumble, let’s blame Cable because he actually called a qb play..doesn’t HE KNOW OUR QB CAN’T MAKE THAT PLAY?…”and stop saying Russell sucks. Last year, for a game, I saw him look one way, and check down. He did..HE DID..and now he’s my hero.”

    What a sad pathetic group a few of you are..again, the jhills, LA to the bay, maddenraider..living vicarously through a player..and one who sucks, at that.

    Not wanting to dump on a really bad player is one thing..but defending a guy who everyone can see totally sucks?
    You fools have no idea how pathetic you come across?

  595. vegas raider Says:

    Brien,

    I don’t see D-Mac putting up better stats than Harvey. I know stats are stats, and I never was that fond of Harvey, but I would take his typical 22 carries for 85 yards, 4 catches for 27 yards, a TD and NO FUMBLES right now.

    That last fumble just killed me. We finally get a turnover, score a TD and it is 20-10, and at least give us a faint chance of hope. He gets great-blocking, runs through a huge hole and than gets plowed and fumbles. Looked way out of his league.

    Just killed me.

  596. Brien the General Says:

    # jhill Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 10:32 am

    Here we go with the in accurate stuff again. That is so tired.

    JRuss arguably had ONE bad throw in the first half yesterday.

    The KC game was an example of ultimate inaccuracy, but the SD was NOT. There were AT least 6 clear drops in that game. And we won’t talk about the zig-zig factor, and hail mary INT.

    The KC game was all on Russell. Other than that, these have been bad TEAM performances!

    JRuss could be 20-30, throw for 275 yds and 3 TDs, and all we would here about was how bad the 10 misses were.
    ************************

    My god do you guys hear this? LOL, the KC game was all on Russell? Did you forget the 12 for 30 performance against SD? Did you not see the one yard passing yesterday? Stop

    20-30 for 275 yards and 3 TDs? LOL when has he done that in pros? I’ll wait

    6 clear drops? Name them in the SD game

  597. Thec07 Says:

    Simple question, why is it that this organization is still living in the 70’s?????

    Can we at least operate as if we are3 in the 2k’s…

    The raider organization cosist of:
    Sheeple, yes men, lackeys both male and female….

  598. jhill Says:

    That’s pretty weak RRS!

    Still going with that I’m defending Russell lie, huh?!?!?

    If you want prefer to “defend” everyone else’s mistakes and just focus on Russell, then that is on you. I prefer to look at EVERYONE.

    I’m calling it like I see it. I want you to explain how 9/13 with a drop, an overturned catch b/c of no foot down, DHB falling down … Uh 12/13 in other words is inaccurate?

    Go ahead and keep fooling yourself into thinking that Gradkowski, Garcia, or Southwick would make ANY bit of difference. It’s 2006 Bed and Breakfast all over again.

  599. 4evaRaider Says:

    Like you said B4 Brien…NO one is exempt from racial jokes and if they are offended by it they can go in the next room and CHOKE

  600. new englandraider Says:

    I agree, there were 5-7 drops in sd game plus the murphytd the refs eraded. and jr spiked the ball 2 stop the clock at least 3 times. that being said you can’t defend him whatsoever for his play the last two weeks

  601. Brien the General Says:

    # wishbone Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 10:44 am

    Brien ever hear of Doug Williams, Warren Moon or Steve McNair?
    ***************

    Ok I can give you Steve McNair but I really was never big on him. Doug Williams did what in Tampa Bay? Warren Moon wasn’t drafted. Still I stand on McNaab as the only one that is truly great. McNaab from his second year on has been an elite QB.

  602. Thec07 Says:

    you guys can continue to make these very complelling arguments but until the “ORGANIZATION” is fixed we will continue to spiral, waffle, win a couple of games but nothing really significant. dont even think about a super bowl that could never ever happen under these circumstances….

  603. Brien the General Says:

    VR……..you mean 30 carries for 85 yards, zero catches and no TDs for Harvey Williams. That guy stunk and had a much better o-line than DMAC had. On top of that his QB wasnt a failing bust like Russell

  604. new englandraider Says:

    you’re correct bo. speaking of bo. any of you seen the you tube video of bo jackson? its called running down a dream. awesome.

  605. NoMoreFargas Says:

    Lakers done sure get ready for another title and 75-7 Kobe lucky title sure guy is the man.

    Lakers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Kobe,Gasol,Artest,Odom

  606. jhill Says:

    6 clear drops? Name them in the SD game

    —————————————————

    DMAC dropped 2 passes

    Murphy dropped 2 passes Dropped a pass right after DHB’s drop on 3rd down, and the drop in the end zone

    DHB dropped 2 passes 1 on during the first series, and the slant 5 yard hitch or whatever.

    And those are undisputed. You want more?

  607. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Russell is not the reason we lost. The playcalling was. We have no choice but to be a run heavy team with our personnel. We were far from that yesterday.

  608. Brien the General Says:

    # 4evaRaider Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 10:46 am

    Like you said B4 Brien…NO one is exempt from racial jokes and if they are offended by it they can go in the next room and CHOKE
    ********************

    Yep anyone can get clowned on. It is all fair if true and funny

  609. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    LOL. The third best Laker married the third hotesst Kardashian.

    Bench McFadden.

    Bench DHB.

    Bench Janormous.

    Just win baby.

  610. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Go ahead and keep fooling yourself into thinking that Gradkowski, Garcia, or Southwick would make ANY bit of difference. It’s 2006 Bed and Breakfast all over again.

    ***

    Russell is going to cost Cable, Hackett & Tollner thier jobs. then it’s back to the Head Coaching search. then it’s another play caller and QB coach. probably a new system.

    Most of you guys will say how it’ll make a world of difference. then Russell fails. then more excuses for him.

    Some of the players you say are a problem will land elsewhere and thrive, etc etc

    by the way Jhill, no matter what scenarios you draw up, any arguement defending Russell’s accuracy you bring to the table make you look like an absolute fool. Just giving you the heads up. I like you and I think you’re a good poster, but I think you’re better than this …

  611. Thec07 Says:

    The raider organization consist of:
    Sheeple, yes men, lackeys both male and female….

    Fix the organization, you fix the team….

  612. Brien the General Says:

    # jhill Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 10:49 am

    6 clear drops? Name them in the SD game

    —————————————————

    DMAC dropped 2 passes

    Murphy dropped 2 passes Dropped a pass right after DHB’s drop on 3rd down, and the drop in the end zone

    DHB dropped 2 passes 1 on during the first series, and the slant 5 yard hitch or whatever.

    And those are undisputed. You want more?
    *******************

    Dmac dropped one pass

    Murphy dropped one pass…….obviously week 2 showed that

    DHB dropped one pass in the SD game. Russell was perfect on that first drive until the INT. DHB did drop a slant on a sh*tty pass

  613. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    MR, we would have run the ball more than 20 times if McFadden had held on to it.

    Lets face it. Dakota was wrong. DMAC is a bust.

  614. LA to TheBay Says:

    Ricky,

    Russell’s not good. Note it, write it down, take a picture, I don’t give a f—.

    That being said, he’s a lot better than what we’ve seen so far and that’s not all on him.

    How many other NFL QBs are asked to take as many deep shots as he has? To rookie WRs no less.

    It’s not the playbook or the progressions. He looked a lot better last year on far more complex plays.

    It’s not a defense, it’s an explaination. An assessment.

    I don’t disagree with some of what you say. You’re problem is that you’re a snide, insufferable fool.

    I don’t live vicariously through any player, and that’s just silly. And if I did it would obviously be Nnamdi.

    You here me talk about him much? Give assessments? Nope. Don’t need to, we all know he’s world class.

    Try reading something in context for once in your sorry life.

  615. Thec07 Says:

    The Oakland Raiders franchise is a business, but the way the organization is ran it is a science project…

  616. Raider25 Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 10:50 am
    Russell is not the reason we lost. The playcalling was. We have no choice but to be a run heavy team with our personnel. We were far from that yesterday.

    he sure didn’t help us win…..BUST!!!!!!!!!!

  617. Brien the General Says:

    # Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 10:52 am

    LOL. The third best Laker married the third hotesst Kardashian.

    Bench McFadden.

    Bench DHB.

    Bench Janormous.

    Just win baby.
    *****************************

    Wow cause the broad is fine that sure means a lot. Those Kardashians are whorish women like their mother. They learned from her about just running after the rich ass athletes. Bo many men have married fine women and it has been their downfall. Please. After 6 weeks of knowing this freak he wants to get hitched. P-$$y whipped New York idiot is Lamar Odom

    Russell,DHB and DMAC will not be benched. So miss us with that

  618. jhill Says:

    And how can you discount DMac’s fumble in game 1?

    That was a HUGE play. We were ROLLING down the field on ALL cylinders. Passing game was clicking, and the running game. That fumble gave SD the ball at midfield and they went on to tie the score 7-7 instead of us going up by 2 scores going into the half.

    HUGE play!

  619. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Bo, it sounds like you’re making excuses for our inexcusable play calling.

  620. Brien the General Says:

    # Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 10:54 am

    MR, we would have run the ball more than 20 times if McFadden had held on to it.

    Lets face it. Dakota was wrong. DMAC is a bust.
    **********************

    This statement is completely off. Tell me how we would have ran it more if he holds on to the ball. Russell will still miss passes and react to slow to any pressure.

    DMAC is not a bust. You couldnt have won vs the Chiefs,Jets,and Broncos last year without him for damn sure. you would have lost the Chiefs game without him in the end. Please. so far he has done more to help the team win games than any other player on that offense

  621. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Brien, true Lamar has no will power. Never has. She probably lured him to the altar with Milk Duds (hidden you-know-where).

  622. Oakglenn Says:

    If you are going to call out one player, Darren McFadden is the one. Other than his blocking, He has not been productive, AND HE HAS COUGHED IT UP 4 TIMES IN 40 ATTEMPTS THIS YEAR! Fargas coughed it up 3 times in 220+ attempts each of the last two years!! And that was his rep out of college and that is what I told you all. McFadden should be the kick returner, and Bush and Fargas should split the reps, until (if ever) McFadden learns to hold onto the rock.

  623. Brien the General Says:

    Jhill go back the archives and see where I excused that. go search Detective Holmes is you must but I never excuse any one turning the rock over. NEVER!

  624. RaiderRockstar Says:

    BSJ: did you forget to send Al Davis a birthday gift?

    He should watch some film on Danny Southwick.

    It’s obvious who the best QB in Alameda is. He’s not wearing a #2 jersey …

  625. Brien the General Says:

    # Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 10:59 am

    Brien, true Lamar has no will power. Never has. She probably lured him to the altar with Milk Duds (hidden you-know-where).
    ******************

    My god sometimes you say some stupid crap but my god you are one funny MFer lololololol

  626. Brien the General Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 10:58 am

    Bo, it sounds like you’re making excuses for our inexcusable play calling.
    *******************

    No you are making excuses for Russell completely. Yeah the play calling can be better but dammit those plays may work if the QB didnt suck so bad

  627. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    This statement is completely off. Tell me how we would have ran it more if he holds on to the ball.

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Wha? If he holds it we get to run more plays on offense. Make sense?

    DMAC trips over the lines on the field. DMAC drops passes. DMAC gets run down by “slower” defenders. DMAC lets go of the ball when going to the ground. DMAC gets tackled on first contact.

    Bush is the man. Trade DMAC already. Save some money Al.

  628. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Brien, is there any subject you’re not an expert on? I’m looking for a car with decent gas mileage yet some power. Let’s hear it. Correct grammar not necessary.

  629. Raider25 Says:

    Brian, no need to be nasty

  630. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 11:01 am
    BSJ: did you forget to send Al Davis a birthday gift?

    He should watch some film on Danny Southwick.

    It’s obvious who the best QB in Alameda is. He’s not wearing a #2 jersey …

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Word from the wilderness!

  631. jhill Says:

    Dmac dropped one pass

    Murphy dropped one pass…….obviously week 2 showed that

    DHB dropped one pass in the SD game. Russell was perfect on that first drive until the INT. DHB did drop a slant on a sh*tty pass

    ——————————————————-

    Ok Brien …

    DMac had a pass bounce off both his hand when JRuss was scrambling in the first half, and he got his clocked cleaned going for the ball.

    He dropped another easy dump off early in the 4th qtr when he was lined up as a WR.

    Murphy’s drop in the end zone was part of JRuss’s misses. Cmon!

    You asked for your 6 drops, and you got them. AND take off that last hail mary.

  632. Brien the General Says:

    Brien<———-still waiting on the game when this number 1 pick guy carries the team on his back

    No 300 yard passing games. No 3 TD performances yet. There hasnt been a big game that showed he is ready to lead this team

  633. Gnarly Says:

    Come ON! Are you serious! someone should remind these guys just how much they’re embarrassing themselves. Overall, the Raiders at this point is the most pathetic team in the NFL. Where’s all the talent that you had prior to the NFL? And the coaches? don’t even get me started. Get someone that really cares about WINNING. Put some effort to kicking your players arses.

  634. LA to TheBay Says:

    “It’s obvious who the best QB in Alameda is. He’s not wearing a #2 jersey ”

    Is Gannon still in Alameda?

  635. Brien the General Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 11:03 am

    Brien, is there any subject you’re not an expert on? I’m looking for a car with decent gas mileage yet some power. Let’s hear it. Correct grammar not necessary.
    *******************

    Correct grammar is not needed when telling the truth. Yes there are a few subjects I’m not an expert on. Hating Al Davis and knowing about ripper ass Sacramento Kings cheerleaders. That my friend is for you to hip us on to

  636. Oakglenn Says:

    Yesterday was a complete and total TEAM LOSS. Since they played SD straight up, and they beat KC on the road playing poorly, that Raider team thought they were good enough to sleep walk thru Thurs and Friday practice,and just mail it in on Sunday. Well, they did mail it in. And what you saw yesterday was what happens when a bad team thinks they can fook around during practice and mail it in on Sunday.

  637. Crimedog Says:

    Did anyone actually watch game tape on DHB in college? He didn’t just run down the field every play. He got involved in screens and end-arounds so he could actually use his speed. Supposedly he ran the fastest 40 at the combine, but from the playcalling so far, we’ve never had a chance to actually see him run. It’s pathetic.

  638. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Brien, I’m making no excuses for Russell. I don’t think he’s that good. But I also think he’s being sabotaged, intentionally or not, by this playcalling. He’s not a great QB. He has no set of hands to throw to, other than Miller, who’s been blanketed since his good game in week one. This team is geared to run the football. And we’re not. Whoever is making the decision to not run the football needs to be dropped into the bay with their feet cemented. And, I doubt it’s Cable.

  639. Brien the General Says:

    # Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 11:03 am

    This statement is completely off. Tell me how we would have ran it more if he holds on to the ball.

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Wha? If he holds it we get to run more plays on offense. Make sense?

    DMAC trips over the lines on the field. DMAC drops passes. DMAC gets run down by “slower” defenders. DMAC lets go of the ball when going to the ground. DMAC gets tackled on first contact.

    Bush is the man. Trade DMAC already. Save some money Al.
    ************************

    How do you figure you get that many more plays Bo? You still have to complete passes on 3rd down. DMAC trying to push the pile was a mistake and that’s why he fumbled the 2nd time. That first one was garbage as well. The little BS screen play that every team knows is coming still would have been a 3rd and long that Russell wont convert. The fumble near the endzone was pitiful and I was pissed at the game seeing that. Still, how many more lays would we have had after that? Is Russell a safe bet to make it happen? Is our o-line that tough in goaline situations? I’ll wait

  640. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Brien, I don’t hate Al Davis. I just think he’s more responsible than anyone else for how bad the Raiders have been over the past 6 years. Don’t you agree?

  641. Raiders4eve Says:

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/09/28/freeman-moss-is-dogging-it-again/

    Wow Randy Moss doing it to NE what he did to us. Anyone suprised?

  642. Brien the General Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 11:11 am

    Brien, I’m making no excuses for Russell. I don’t think he’s that good. But I also think he’s being sabotaged, intentionally or not, by this playcalling. He’s not a great QB. He has no set of hands to throw to, other than Miller, who’s been blanketed since his good game in week one. This team is geared to run the football. And we’re not. Whoever is making the decision to not run the football needs to be dropped into the bay with their feet cemented. And, I doubt it’s Cable.
    ***********************

    Cable has his part for damn sure. Al does meddle and we all know that but dammit Al doesnt call all the plays on offense. No way no how. Me and you agree we should run the rock more. I was always in the belief that opening up the offense toward the middle of the season was a better idea after the team establishes an identity on offense.

    You know Russell sucks. A qb stinking it up makes it hard for a team to win.

    Now Al does have his hand in the defense and its obvious. That you and I will agree on

  643. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Jerry Mac went on & on about Russell putting his team in a position to win in the final 3 minutes of the game in Weeks 1 & 2 – despite his awful performances.

    I wonder what his assesment is now that he’s seen the Denver game?

  644. beeecham Says:

    Hey it’s Brian the Genital! It’s been a long time since you visited the blog, you sassy silly buns. I’m guessing you had your manicured hands full with your grandpa KrappyKell.

    I bet that old fool was quite a handful at the game yesterday. One can only imagine how many of his diapers you changed on the first few drives alone. I’m guessing many of the bleacher fights were caused by his wildly spraying craps.

    I don’t envy you at all, Brian the Genital, but I do respect you helping out your geriatric family members during game day.

    Holla!

  645. RaiderRockstar Says:

    The Raiders would be 3-0 with Brady Quinn, Trent Edwards, Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco, Matthew Stafford or Mark Sanchez. Probably even Jeff Garcia or Danny Southwick …

    it’s going to be a long year.

  646. Brien the General Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 11:12 am

    Brien, I don’t hate Al Davis. I just think he’s more responsible than anyone else for how bad the Raiders have been over the past 6 years. Don’t you agree?
    ***************

    Totally I have told you this many times before. He is the head guy in charge so he has to take the blame. The old man has said this. You dont hate Al Davis? Come on man. You have wished death on that guy

  647. jhill Says:

    Brien the General Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 11:01 am

    Jhill go back the archives

    —————————————————-

    You have the wrong guy for that. It’s not that serious. The fact that you are putting EVERYTHING on Russell is what excuses the DMac fumble. Focusing on nothing but Russell excuses everyone else. There should be just as much chatter about DMac and Cable’s game plan as their is Russell. But the minute someone brings up another point … Russell , Russell, Russell!

    Again, we are NOT just a QB away!

  648. Dakota Says:

    True, McFadden hasn’t lived up to it yet…but he will, as soon as we get a HC with a clue.

    I still hold out hope for Russell when the new coach arrives too.

    Just have to wait out this major mistake by Al Davis…Tom Cable and Co.

    What a joke.

  649. Brien the General Says:

    # RaiderRockstar Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 11:15 am

    Jerry Mac went on & on about Russell putting his team in a position to win in the final 3 minutes of the game in Weeks 1 & 2 – despite his awful performances.

    I wonder what his assesment is now that he’s seen the Denver game?
    **********************

    “He dit goo”

  650. raiderkoolaid Says:

    After a game like yesterday I think that us fans care much more about winning and loosing and playing hard than the players do, even though they are getting paid tons of money for it and we make nothing unless we have money bet on it. I don’t understand the team not playing with more passion and determination. Of course Gerard Warren won’t put up with getting kicked around without putting up a fight. He’ll pull their hair.

  651. LA to TheBay Says:

    Jerry Mac went on & on about Russell putting his team in a position to win in the final 3 minutes of the game in Weeks 1 & 2 – despite his awful performances.

    I wonder what his assesment is now that he’s seen the Denver game?
    ————————————–

    KC dropped his poorly thrown potential INTs.

    Denver did not.

    Why is he throwing 40 yards downfield again?

  652. Brien the General Says:

    Jhill, who is the leader? Who cant play bad consistently and see wins?

    J, he doesnt get in anyone’s face and he doesn’t demand better play from his teammates. Who doesn’t give a damn.

    I live out here as I keep telling you people! The word is out on this guy and the Raider organization refuses to listen

  653. No More Infield or Trolls Says:

    Hey, it could be worse, we could have taken Quinn.

    Run the ball. Just run the ball. This offence has Al Davis written all over it. If I were one of the minority owners of the team I would be up in arms about how Al is running the Raiders.

  654. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Byron Leftwich benched for Josh Johnson in Tampa Bay.

    he was 58/107 (54 comp percent). 594 yards, 4 TD, 3 INT, sacked twice. 71.2 QB Rating

    hmmm …

    Russell is much worse than that!

  655. Brien the General Says:

    Kell, talks all his barbershop bullish and I go to the barbershop and the local night life spots and everyone out here knows it man! They know he doesnt care becuz he has cheddar in the bank and has zero financial worries

  656. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    This just in: Herrera next to ban fans from coliseum for being negative. Be careful what you say.

  657. Brien the General Says:

    Gerard Warren=sucks

    Looking for draft next year. Terrence Cody as NT or excuse me as BHP says the 1 gap DT

  658. beeecham Says:

    Brian the Genital, the only place your grandpa Krappy has “cheddar” is in his pants. I don’t care what kind of gossip you’re hearing at the beauty salon – er, I mean barber shop – but that old toad couldn’t make a sound investment if his krappy old life depended on it.

    I know you two are family, but c’mon Brian – you change his drawers every day. And you expect us to believe he’s somehow financially secure?

    C’mon, Brian the Genital – you’re just barely smarter than that.

  659. Brien the General Says:

    MR, they didnt deserve boos. They deserved the people to rush the field and attack them

  660. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Brien, sorry, I don’t buy it. Cable pounds the rock in the first two games, then suddenly abandons the running game? When this guy lives and dies by the run? He developed a run blocking O line, for crying out loud. And you want me to believe it was he who decided to ditch the running game? Brien, you’re lying! Why? Is it to defend Al, Brien?

  661. new englandraider Says:

    brien i think you’re right on the money. russell looks as thought he could’t care less if we won or lost. SAD

  662. baikin Says:

    I really hope fans of other teams don’t read some of these comments. It is embarrassing the some of the excuses I have been reading for getting our butts kicked by a team that has really owned us for the last 25 years. Calling Denver’s team garbage after they just beat us by 20 and actually took the foot off the gas pedal in the second half is absolutely stupid. Trying to blame a loss on pass interference calls that were missed is also a sad sad statement. Come on seriously is that what we have lowered ourselves to. Making up calls to justify a loss. Except the fact we are one of the worse teams in the league and let’s look forward.

  663. wishbone Says:

    Doug Williams won a Super Bowl. McNair was a yard away from winning one and was NFL MVP. Warren Moon HOF.

  664. Brien the General Says:

    “My name Jamaka Russa and I quobayk for the Oland Raidah. Cum out and supportuh when we play the Pila……how you say that word……..Piladelpeea Aggles.”

  665. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Russell’s the man. I got his back.

    Growing pains.

  666. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Brien, what do you mean when you say, “Kell talks all his barbershop b.s.”? What is “barbershop” b.s.?

  667. jhill Says:

    Brien the General Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 11:21 am

    Jhill, who is the leader? Who cant play bad consistently and see wins?

    ——————————————————-

    Brien,

    I’m going to say this for the last time.

    JRuss is not getting it done! As a number 1 overall pick, he should be able to win in spite of what is going on around him. He should be able to see that the plays that are being called are BS, and audible into simple slant check downs, and the like.

    You want me to say it ONE MORE TIME?!?!?!?

    Now with that said, there is no way I am going to sit here and harp on Russell like he is the ONLY issue with this team. That is crazy talk to me.

    Where is the dominant Tommy Kelly now that Seymour is getting so much attention?

    Where are the plays in the backfield from the LBs now that the Dline is occupying the Oline?

    Why isn’t Bush carrying the ball?

    Are all those topics off limits until JR either gets benched or cut? How many different ways can we go over the QB needing to improve his weight, and overall accuracy? Where’s the news? Like you say about Gradkowski, where’s the newsflash?

  668. Brien the General Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 11:26 am

    Brien, sorry, I don’t buy it. Cable pounds the rock in the first two games, then suddenly abandons the running game? When this guy lives and dies by the run? He developed a run blocking O line, for crying out loud. And you want me to believe it was he who decided to ditch the running game? Brien, you’re lying! Why? Is it to defend Al, Brien?
    *************************

    Raiders pounded the rock in KC? LOL. Cable like Al is trying to prove they can pass with Russell. Cable callsthe plays and Al doesnt. you are lying and you know it. Defend Al for losing with a fat ass QB he slected that should have stayed in college? Nope I’m not.

    And the so called run blocking o-line is just above average. Green and Carlisle start. Enough said

  669. No More Infield or Trolls Says:

    Issues here lie far deeper than just russell. Open up the damn playbook. If russ can’t handle it then put in someone who can. Run the wildcat, run a a reverse now and then with dhb so we can see how he actually looks with the ball in his hands. Game planning on both sides of the ball was terrible. We are so predictable on O and so unprepared on D. WHY?

    We will be a quarter of the way through the schedule after next game. It’s not too late but changes must be made now.

  670. new englandraider Says:

    lol. you wonder why jr cant complete his passes. he cant even complete a sentence

  671. jhill Says:

    I am not putting words into your mouth. I didn’t say that you didn’t want Bush to run the ball.

    You, on the other hand are saying that I am supporting Russell by pointing out what others are doing wrong. No matter how many times I say Russell sucks, bring in Gradkowski, or bring in Vick, I’m still Russell’s agent. LMFAO!

  672. Oakglenn Says:

    # raiderkoolaid Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 11:21 am

    After a game like yesterday I think that us fans care much more about winning and loosing and playing hard than the players do, even though they are getting paid tons of money for it and we make nothing unless we have money bet on it. I don’t understand the team not playing with more passion and determination. Of course Gerard Warren won’t put up with getting kicked around without putting up a fight. He’ll pull their hair.
    ————————–

    Actually, that was Richard Seymour. And I thought hair was considered part of the uni. In pregame warmups the Buncos came out very chippy and were mouthing off to the Raiders warming up at midfield. It was getting ugly and the refs had to come in. And that was 20 minutes before game time. They came in intense, and we NEVER matched their intensity in that game. Not on offense, defense or special teams.

  673. Brien the General Says:

    Jhill as I’ve said I want to see us run it with Bush and Dmac about 40 times a game! What have you missed about that over the last year my friend?

  674. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Brien, are you white?

  675. Lynn from Snot Says:

    Tyvon Branch looked good.

  676. No More Infield or Trolls Says:

    I would trade for the third stringer on the niners right now (davis?) and sit Russ.

  677. Brien the General Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 11:31 am

    Brien, what do you mean when you say, “Kell talks all his barbershop b.s.”? What is “barbershop” b.s.?
    *****************

    I’m referring to Kell talking about how at his barbershop people talk about how gutsy Russell is. Well I been to a few barbershops all around this bad boy as well as other night spots in the bay area and they tell me quite different.

    There is a place in San Ramon that Raider players sometimes go to. Lot of fine beezies sometimes there. MR you outta check it out one day. anyhow a player who I will not name talked about Russell not giving a damn and he is fat outta shape loser.

  678. VanHeathen Says:

    How is it we have an ex O-line coach who doesn’t want to establish the run game?
    We should be running it 2/3rds of the time and playing the field position game.
    Instead, going for the big play and giving it to the other team.

  679. Brien the General Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 11:34 am

    Brien, are you white?
    *******************

    No use to sniff a lot of it though lol

  680. Oakglenn Says:

    You are NOT going to run the ball 35 times a game, with 8-9 guys stacked. Ain’t gonna happen. Some one was saying Adrian Peterson runs with 9 guys up. Well, the Whiner stacked the box against AP yesterday. He had one run of 35 yards where the contain guy got caught up inside. Other than that he was 18 for 55 or a 3.0 yard average per carry. AND THAT’S ADRIAN PETERSON not Darren McFadden.

  681. Brien the General Says:

    Nnamdi…growing pains? Loser pains

  682. Brien the General Says:

    # Oakglenn Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 11:38 am

    You are NOT going to run the ball 35 times a game, with 8-9 guys stacked. Ain’t gonna happen. Some one was saying Adrian Peterson runs with 9 guys up. Well, the Whiner stacked the box against AP yesterday. He had one run of 35 yards where the contain guy got caught up inside. Other than that he was 18 for 55 or a 3.0 yard average per carry. AND THAT’S ADRIAN PETERSON not Darren McFadden.
    ********************

    Well Oakglenn the 49er players are scared to get beat up by Singletary is why. The Raiders players are scared of Tom Cable unless they are a coach

  683. raiderkoolaid Says:

    I always thought a player couldn’t go out of bounds and then come back in and be the first one to touch the ball. I know if a pass receiver go out of bounds he can’t come back in and catch the ball unless someone else touches it first. Same with a gunner on punt coverage. If he steps out of bounds and then comes back in and is the first one to touch the ball to down it, it’s a five yard penalty and they replay the down. I thought it would be the same for a fumble recovery, but I guess I was wrong about that.

  684. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Brien, nice spin, but it’s not going to work. Cable wants to show off Russell’s arm? W H Y???? Cable has nothing riding on Russell’s arm. Cable didn’t draft him. Cable was the offensive line coach then, and was developing our line to be a run heavy line. He’s said repeatedly he wants to run the football. At first, he does. Then suddenly, we ditch the run. It’s not him. If we didn’t have a meddlesome owner or GM, I might believe your b.s. But you can’t brag about having a hands on GM then suddenly pretend his just an innocent old man when we start losing. Al’s making Cable call passing plays. Everyone knows it. But keep trying to lie and make Al look all innocent. Only the other kool aid drinking FANS like you buy it. And, I don’t think you’re black, or from Oakland, Brien. Your racist shots at Russell are just bizarre. I don’t hear any black people in real life talk the way you do. Never mind Oakland. You’d get your ass whipped in Oak Park or Del Paso Heights, right here in Sac, for mocking Russell with your racist bullshyt. Of course, you’d probably just get beat up there for being white.

  685. Dakota Says:

    McFadden looked good on a couple of carries where he actually had a hole to hit…and then he fumbled….foook me! Probably got too excited when he actually had room to run.

  686. Brien the General Says:

    So Oakglenn, how come teams are playing 8 or 9 men in the box? Gotta be something right

  687. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Oakglenn, we still could have run the ball. We have a good run blocking o line and in previous games we were running with 8 guys in the box. 8 guys in the box is overrated. If you’ve got an offensive line that can run block, and a couple of backs that can run between the tackles, they will plow an 8 man front. It happens all of the time. You guys are making excuses for the gameplan, to defend Al Davis. It never stops in here.

  688. Brien the General Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 11:39 am

    Brien, nice spin, but it’s not going to work. Cable wants to show off Russell’s arm? W H Y???? Cable has nothing riding on Russell’s arm. Cable didn’t draft him. Cable was the offensive line coach then, and was developing our line to be a run heavy line. He’s said repeatedly he wants to run the football. At first, he does. Then suddenly, we ditch the run. It’s not him. If we didn’t have a meddlesome owner or GM, I might believe your b.s. But you can’t brag about having a hands on GM then suddenly pretend his just an innocent old man when we start losing. Al’s making Cable call passing plays. Everyone knows it. But keep trying to lie and make Al look all innocent. Only the other kool aid drinking FANS like you buy it. And, I don’t think you’re black, or from Oakland, Brien. Your racist shots at Russell are just bizarre. I don’t hear any black people in real life talk the way you do. Never mind Oakland. You’d get your ass whipped in Oak Park or Del Paso Heights, right here in Sac, for mocking Russell with your racist bullshyt. Of course, you’d probably just get beat up there for being white.
    **************************

    What does Cable have riding on Russell’s arm? LOL you can’t be serious man. If Cable loses with Russell stinking it up he is fired you dumb ass. He has everything riding on that guy! Cable didnt draft him? Hell neither did kiffin you fool. Al drafts the players. When did I say the old man was innocent. He is the complete blame because he runs the show!

    Racist shots at Russell? LOL. You mean truthful shots. That isn’t how he talks? Hey MR I’m not black? Ok go on Thomas Howard’s twitter and ask him did he talk to a black guy at Chili’s in Sn Leandro the friday before the Chiefs game. Also go by Rick’y Sports bar and ask the bartender lady Tina if BRIEN is a black. Maybe you can go ask John Vella that since his store is right next to it.

    Haha Sac is cool and I aint getting on them at all. Oak Park or Del Paso Heights lol. Man you only think people in those areas can fight? Get beat up for being white? Do you hear yourself right now? Folks dont act like that up north man. Black folks in Norcal dont go around beating up people just because they are white or not. You sound stupid

  689. Raider Headbutt Says:

    I have alrady voiced my opinion on JR and that we won’t win with him.

    However just putting another QB in there doesnt solve the problem either because it is also the play callin. Not even talking about Russel we should be 2-1 and in 2nd place in the division if the D didnt play prevent in Week 1.

  690. Brien the General Says:

    MR, I know you hate Al Davis so much but you are just totally reaching. You even overlook the posts where I’m saying its his fault. Its okay MR. You are very bitter over the slapfests I have repeatedly given you over the the last year. They are just jokes man. come on pull your skirt down

  691. Oakglenn Says:

    Simple. They are making Russell and two rooks be the ones to beat them. And Russell and two rooks are NOT able to beat them. Hence the won-loss record.

  692. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Dakota Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 11:40 am
    McFadden looked good on a couple of carries where he actually had a hole to hit…and then he fumbled….foook me! Probably got too excited when he actually had room to run

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    My sleeping housecat could tackle DMAC. Are his shoes five sizes too big?

  693. Brien the General Says:

    Beat down lol. Never. Oak Park where them j-cats is wearing a bunch of 49er jerseys? lol

  694. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Brien the General Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 11:45 am

    They are just jokes man. come on pull your skirt down.

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    LMAO

  695. DKnight007 Says:

    What did I say all freakin week long leading up to the game??

    They would need to RUN the freakin football from the start of the game with DMC and Bush and establish the tempo….run some mis direction plays…..implement the WILDCAT…throw some bubble WR screens….to attempt to HIDE their weaknesses and confuse the Donks in the beginning of the game….since Russell is struggling.

    And guess what happens PREDICTABLY?!?

    Cable and Tollner come out and do the complete freakin OPPOSITE and come out passing with intermediate and deep low percentage plays and forcing the issue instead of sticking with the freakin running game and high percentage passes!!

    Then Russell quickly throws two INTS and the game is pretty much over before it began!

    Utter IDIOCY!!

    Stupid uncreative game plan and with that crappy game plan….came crappy execution!

    At least I won 300 bucks on the Raiders losing!

    I had a feeling something stupid would happen….and it did!

    Cornell Green SUCKS by the way….like what we have been saying for the past two years of course!

    Once again….KARMA bites the old stubborn man Al Davis in the a$$ once again by acting like a jacka$$ to one of the best players the Raiders have had the last 10 years and who was part of building the team into a winner!

    Without Gannon….the Raiders would have NEVER been a winning team for four years and would have never gone to the playoffs or Super Bowl!!

    I can’t stand Al Davis how he has completely RUINED this franchise! What a SICK JOKE!

  696. Crow Says:

    “I know I’m not there yet. I know that. The best thing for myself is to keep preparing for Day 1 and go out and I’m going to keep on playing, until coach, we decide what we’re going to do, as far as, find a way, from coach on down until the last guy on the roster. We have to find a way to make ourselves better.”

    ————————————————–

    Further proof that no one goes to LSU to get an education.

  697. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Brien, say what you want about OP or DPH, if you went there talking your racist b.s. you would get beat down, black or white. Probably white.

  698. DKnight007 Says:

    After DMC fumbled the first time….Bush and Fargas should have got involved.

    No creativity and no trying to hide their weaknesses during game preparation and planning and having a crappy scheme!

    This team also needs Chaz back ASAP!

  699. UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER Says:

    from twitter must be JaPoatroast’s idea.
    =====================================================

    Jerrymcd Maybe way to Raiders’ heart is through their stomachs _ day after 23-3 Denver loss, they get the Kinder’s BBQ trailer.
    10 minutes ago from web

  700. UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER Says:

    REPOST

    The Master Plan calls for McFadden to scare the daylights out of defenses, creating a vast play area for the dreaded vertical passing game that Russell and Heyward-Bey will unleash on the helpless league.

    Together these three will lead the Raiders out of the Wilderness of Ineptitude and back to the land of Raider Domination.

    AL DAVIS IS A GENIUS LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!

  701. Brien the General Says:

    Tell me MR how my comments are racist

  702. los raiders de don rober Says:

    DHB is a waste, a sad millionaire waste. Should try out for the bobsled team or something, cause this here football aint his thing. I’m hoping we play turf soon cause the grass is having a tackling party on McFadden, jeesh, tie your shoelaces or something, why the hell does he fall down without a touch 50% of the time?…Jama has no clue, look at his face in the bench, he’s not on the phone or looking at pictures, or talking to a coach, or anything….dammn!

  703. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Oh, ok, Brien. You just proved it. Never mind. I mean, you told me to ask the bartender at Rickey’s if Brien is black. Wow. Showed me.

  704. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Remember the tale about Janormous hosting Fats Domino during Katrina?

    I thought that story showed he had some grit. Instead we learn his apartment was the only place in town left unlocked…

  705. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Brien, go to East Oakland and exaggerate Russell’s accent the way you are in here, and they’ll explain to you why it’s racist. If I were you, I’d make sure there’s a cop nearby. Although that might not do you much good, either. Could be someone like Lovelle Mixon in the crowd.

  706. KoolKell Says:

    Well, sec 218 are great seats. Otherwise, f’d up day.

    Brien etal, I guess you’re right. Russell looks like a bust. I noticed he sat by himself on the bench. I didn’t see any coaches with him. Are all those guys in the booth?

  707. Brien the General Says:

    MR, I have lived in the south and like most black people from California my whole family is from the south. Be mad all you want about me mocking how Russell talks but am I lying? Guy is a stumbling bumbling idiot who doesn’t give a damn. I have family members who are just like him. Talented as all hell but dont give a damn about anything.

  708. weaselbit Says:

    Dude just can’t throw straight.

    The question is……..will he ever??

  709. Dakota Says:

    What we need is a coach that players respect (Dungy type) or fear (Cowher type).

    Most of the players are like children, they need to be guided and prodded along, and they will take advantage of weakness when they sense it. All the players know Cable is just Al’s puppet that doesn’t have the credentials to coach a lower division college team let alone an NFL team, and they also know that if push comes to shove Cable will go before any of the talented players go.

    Sooooooooo, we pretty much are screwed until Al can convince a decent HC to come to town and empower that HC with the ability to crush the hopes and dreams of players when they don’t perform up to expectations.

    Just my humble opinion.

  710. Brien the General Says:

    # KoolKell Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 11:56 am

    Well, sec 218 are great seats. Otherwise, f’d up day.

    Brien etal, I guess you’re right. Russell looks like a bust. I noticed he sat by himself on the bench. I didn’t see any coaches with him. Are all those guys in the booth?
    ************************

    Yeah Kell I was in 228. You shoulda came by and said hello OG. Yeah Kell it was bad yesterday. all isnt lost Kell. You living a luxurious comfortable life so I guess you are alright. Coaches? LOL really.

  711. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Brien, I don’t think you’re black. Maybe you are, but I doubt it. And, no, I’m not going to go to Rickey’s, and ask “Tina” if there’s a guy there named Brien, and if he’s black. I’m only going by what I’m reading in here. And, again, if you went to Oak Park mocking Russell’s accent the way you are in here, they’d beat you down. You can always give it a try. Put it on youtube, too. Although, you’d reveal to us you’re white if you did that. But it’s not like we didn’t know it anyway.

  712. Brien the General Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 11:54 am

    Oh, ok, Brien. You just proved it. Never mind. I mean, you told me to ask the bartender at Rickey’s if Brien is black. Wow. Showed me.
    *******************

    Sorry for giving you some examples that can verify things MR. What else am I suppose to do. I have offered for you to meet me and such but you always decline.

  713. Brien the General Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 11:56 am

    Brien, go to East Oakland and exaggerate Russell’s accent the way you are in here, and they’ll explain to you why it’s racist. If I were you, I’d make sure there’s a cop nearby. Although that might not do you much good, either. Could be someone like Lovelle Mixon in the crowd.
    ***********************

    Um you idiot people in the town always make fun of brothas from the south. See now you dont know what you are talking about. I dont fuk with cops not my job. I was at the game MR, clowning Russell all day and the coliseum has many black folks and they were dying laughing at my Russell accent

  714. Brien the General Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 12:02 pm

    Brien, I don’t think you’re black. Maybe you are, but I doubt it. And, no, I’m not going to go to Rickey’s, and ask “Tina” if there’s a guy there named Brien, and if he’s black. I’m only going by what I’m reading in here. And, again, if you went to Oak Park mocking Russell’s accent the way you are in here, they’d beat you down. You can always give it a try. Put it on youtube, too. Although, you’d reveal to us you’re white if you did that. But it’s not like we didn’t know it anyway.
    *****************

    Please Oak Park bruhs would laugh and say “N-gga you crazy.”

  715. LA to TheBay Says:

    MR

    I gotta agree with you.

    This has Al written all over it.
    ******************************************************
    AL: Timmy!

    CABLE: Uh, it’s Tom, Mr. Davis.

    AL: Right, right. Listen, that wide re- did you bring my juice?

    CABLE: Juice? Mr. Davis, I’m not sure wha-

    AL: Christ, where is Herrera? He knows I like my juice at 3:00 PM PROMPTLY, right before my nap. For such a useless sack, he sure knows how to fluff a pillow and change a bedpan and he always brings my juice. I might as well make him head coach, Tony, he’d at least be getting that ball downfield!

    CABLE: Sigh, Mr. Davis, I have the gameplan for tomorrow’s game, as you requested.

    AL (Flipping through pages): What is this crap? Your first 15 plays are 7 run and 6 pass? Mindless fool. Don’t you realize today’s game is centered around the vertical game? The Big Play?

    CABLE: I think this will provide some balance. As you know, I wanted Fargas as our #1, as he runs with a lot of intensity, but you said you wanted McFadden featured, so-

    AL: McFadden sells jerseys, you twit! He’s versatile and will make the Big Play.

    CABLE: Well, all the same, I think he’s having trouble getting to the second level and I’m real concerned about his ability to hold on to the ball.

    AL: Get him some stickem, Ron! Do you have my juice?

    CABLE: Mr. Davis, I really think we should have this offense run through Fargas and Mike Bush, because even though he wasn’t really cooperative when asked to play fullback, he really bailed us out last year in Tampa.

    AL: I told you never to speak the “T” word, fool!

    (Tosses the gameplan into the wastebasket)

    AL: Just throw the damn ball, John! Why do you think I got that big-armed quarterback? He’s the next LaMonica. He’s got the fastest wide receiver in the draft so just have him throw it to that kid.

    CABLE: Well Mr. Davis, I think that Murphy is our best-

    AL: I’m not paying you for your evaluation, you simpleton, I’m paying you to put MY gameplan into effect. Here.

    (Al hands Cable a cocktail napkin with the words “GO DEEP” scrawled in crayon).

    AL: Now tell Marshall to get in here, we gotta talk about this silly “zone” concept of his. Hah. You idiots know nothing of football. If I didn’t intimidate all the so-called “good” head coaches, you’d still be calling plays at USC.

    CABLE: Mr. Davis, that was -

    AL: HERRERA! JUICE! It’s impossible to get good help these days.

  716. socalraider430 Says:

    Chemistry w/Chaz is going to be off, he’s the #1 WR, (should be) Walker #2, and Murphy #3, DHB…well, not starting!!

  717. andrew33 Says:

    There is no course of action but patience right now. Although Jamarcus Russell could very well be the guy that takes from Ryan Leaf the mantle of being known as the biggest bust ever, the Raiders are a lousy team and no knee-jerk changes are going to fix that. Give Russell the rest of the season, hope for the best, and then re-evaluate the position if needed. The problem is the modern Raiders must re-evaluate under a different set of rules than nearly any other organization in professional sports.

    It is foolish to waste another draft pick on a young QB and try to develop him; the facilities are simply not in place to succeed. Barring gross overpayment for their services (see Kelly, Tommy and Walker, Jevon) no legitimate established player will sign here as a FA. Even at that, many players would still take less money to play elsewhere. Unless they are not given that option (see Seymour, Richard).

    It isn’t often that a legit starting QB such as a Cutler becomes available for trade. Add to this that any player traded for will likely be unhappy that he has been traded to NFL purgatory (see again Seymour, Richard), yet another dimension that is nearly unique to the Raiders.

    That leaves the free agent signing of or trading for a journeyman QB as the primary method of injecting talent at the position, QBs that have no legitimate shot at a starting gig elsewhere (Derek Anderson? Tarvaris Jackson?) that will come to the Raiders out of desperation in hopes of reviving a career, taken with the hope that they pan out against the odds. Not exactly a recipe for success.

  718. DKnight007 Says:

    One more half to see if Russell can step it up….otherwise better put Gradkowski in the next game if Russell can’t get it done.

    But then again….Cable and Tollners offensive game planning STINK to HIGH HEAVEN!!

  719. drowningboy Says:

    Dick Seymour video:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nVOjYZRIC4

  720. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Brien, the reason I mocked your whole Rickey’s thing is because it wouldn’t verify anything. There is no possible way of you verifying it. Unless, of course, you want to tape yourself going into a black neighborhood and mocking Russell’s accent. But, you won’t do it. Because you know you’ll get your ass kicked.

  721. Brien the General Says:

    MR, some of that white guilt flowing deep in ya huh? It is all in your posts, especially when you defend that Obama guy and talk about other white republicans and such lol

  722. VanHeathen Says:

    Can Al get a tax write off for JaMarcus’s pay? I mean at this point he’s like a donateable charity or a dependent.
    Jammy, you’re breaking this team, it’s fans and finances.
    Seems like agood week for a ‘mysto’ injury during practice, to give him a week to “get right”.

  723. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Brien, if you’re black, they probably would just say you’re crazy and laugh it off. But I doubt any of them spend as much time as you do on the internet making fun of black people. Even black people would think it’s bizarre the way you mock Russell. They have a name for black people like you, Brien. But of course, this is assuming you’re black. I still think you’re a white boy using the whole “i’m black” act to get away with making racial slurs.

  724. JB Says:

    There have been a lot of great physical specimens who tried to make it at the QB position. Generally speaking, they were mediocre or failed. Good/great QB’s require a level of intelligence so that they can multitask, quickly evaluate defenses, implement alternative plays based on what they see, and most of all perform the functions of the team leader. JaBeefRoll is a large specimen but, based on what I’ve seen and heard from him, he appears not to have a minimum requisite level of intelligence. That could easily explain his poor performance when it has come to learning the total playbook, being able to recognize defenses and calling the necessary audibles to defeat the defense, performing the basics of the leadership position. To make matters worse, he appears to be unmotivated and unconcerned with his poor performance. He really comes across as too dumb to recognize how bad he really is. We’ve seen the level of work ethic required to be a great QB – witness Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, etc. They work their asses of in film study and practice. Steve Young, a HOF QB said mastering the QB position was harder than successfully completing law school – which he has done. Does anyone really think JaBeefRoll has the mental acquity to master this position – I think not. He’s got a strong arm but unfortunately that’s it. The rest of the tool box is empty – except for a $32 million dollar checking account.

    A famous saying says it all – “What, Me worry”. I think NOT.

  725. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Brien the General Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 12:08 pm

    MR, some of that white guilt flowing deep in ya huh?

    …….

    Spoke it like a racist white guy.

  726. Raider Headbutt Says:

    weaselbit he scored average i beleive but it sure not showing in games

  727. Crow Says:

    So…wait. It’s racist to state the simple fact that Russell talks like he has half a cheeseburger in his mouth and makes no sense even when you CAN understand him?

    GTFO with that BS.

  728. JB Says:

    Dakota Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 12:00 pm

    What we need is a coach that players respect (Dungy type) or fear (Cowher type).

    Most of the players are like children, they need to be guided and prodded along, and they will take advantage of weakness when they sense it. All the players know Cable is just Al’s puppet that doesn’t have the credentials to coach a lower division college team let alone an NFL team, and they also know that if push comes to shove Cable will go before any of the talented players go.

    Sooooooooo, we pretty much are screwed until Al can convince a decent HC to come to town and empower that HC with the ability to crush the hopes and dreams of players when they don’t perform up to expectations.
    **************************

    Never going to happen as long as AD is in charge. There are two main reasons:
    1. Successful NFL coaches are leaders and are in-charge. That can’t happen in Oakland with AD.
    2. AD won’t relinquish control to anyone – ever.

    Not wha you wanted to hear but that’s the way it’s been, the way it is and the way it will be.

  729. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Brien, I know a lot of black people. Guess how many times I’ve heard a black person use the words “white guilt”, in my entire life? 0. Not once. I’ve only heard white republicans say that.

  730. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    MR, must it always be racist to mention the intellectual shortcomings of a black person? Any ethnically-neutral observer would doubtless conclude that Russell was not, um… well-served by the Mobile, Alabama and Louisiana State school systems.

  731. UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER Says:

    javon walker = marcus allen treatment

  732. Crow Says:

    So…wait. It’s racist to state the simple fact that Russell talks like he has half a cheeseburger in his mouth and makes no sense even when you CAN understand him? Say wuh?

    GTFO with that BS.

  733. Raider Headbutt Says:

    The only time you are going to see the Raiders in the playoffs before Al dies is if you play Madden. And even then you need to be good to use them lol

  734. UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER Says:

    oakglenn

    if not frye or gradowski what would you suggest. i mean we cannot stick with JaPoatroast thats obvious.

    our defense is going to give up points when the offense is cont. going 3 and out and throwing 1st down int’s

    something has to be done it’s a good thing we do not play detroit this year.

  735. Crow Says:

    So…how come my posts aren’t showing up?

  736. Brien the General Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 12:08 pm

    Brien, the reason I mocked your whole Rickey’s thing is because it wouldn’t verify anything. There is no possible way of you verifying it. Unless, of course, you want to tape yourself going into a black neighborhood and mocking Russell’s accent. But, you won’t do it. Because you know you’ll get your ass kicked.
    ***********************

    Reach job of the 2009! How about we tape when you and I meet up. Didn’t you say going to the Raider games were your job? Why dont you kick my ass?

  737. weaselbit Says:

    You’re right JB.
    He just doesn’t seem smart.
    All of the great qb’s were smart.
    Wasn’t he the one that did real bad on the qb intelligence test before the draft?

  738. Oakglenn Says:

    # DKnight007 Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 12:06 pm

    One more half to see if Russell can step it up….otherwise better put Gradkowski in the next game if Russell can’t get it done.
    ================================================

    Gradkowski is not going to get it done. He was a very late pick that Gruden gave up on, and even Cleveland waived. In the couple of plays he played for us, he did a nice job of moving the team backwards. I can do that.

  739. Brien the General Says:

    MR, you know alot of black people lol. Sure you do. Through all those rap songs and TV shows you sure know us lol

  740. weaselbit Says:

    # UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 12:15 pm

    javon walker = marcus allen treatment

    Weaselbit:

    When did Walker even remotely accomplish anything close to Marcus Allen?
    That comparison makes no sense.

  741. DKnight007 Says:

    What did I say all freakin week long leading up to the game??

    They would need to RUN the freakin football from the start of the game with DMC and Bush and establish the tempo….run some mis direction plays…..implement the WILDCAT…throw some bubble WR screens….to attempt to HIDE their weaknesses and confuse the Donks in the beginning of the game….since Russell is struggling.

    And guess what happens PREDICTABLY?!?

    Cable and Tollner come out and do the complete freakin OPPOSITE and come out passing with intermediate and deep low percentage plays and forcing the issue instead of sticking with the freakin running game and high percentage passes!!

    Then Russell quickly throws two INTS and the game is pretty much over before it began!

    Utter IDIOCY!!

    Stupid uncreative game plan and with that crappy game plan….came crappy execution!

    At least I won 300 bucks on the Raiders losing!

    I had a feeling something stupid would happen….and it did!

    Cornell Green SUCKS by the way….like what we have been saying for the past two years of course!

    Once again….KARMA bites the old stubborn man Al Davis in the a$$ once again by acting like a jacka$$ to one of the best players the Raiders have had the last 10 years and who was part of building the team into a winner!

    Without Gannon….the Raiders would have NEVER been a winning team for four years and would have never gone to the playoffs or Super Bowl!!

    I can’t stand Al Davis how he has completely RUINED this franchise!

    What a SICK JOKE!

  742. Brien the General Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 12:11 pm

    Brien the General Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 12:08 pm

    MR, some of that white guilt flowing deep in ya huh?

    …….

    Spoke it like a racist white guy.
    ************************

    Hey, I know a lot of white people and I hear them say this all the time whether Dem or Rep. Reaching again

  743. Elvis Says:

    Seriously sick of the mod in here banning my IP

    I am changing my loyalty to PFT if Jerry is going to be such a sensitive little girl about every comment made towards him.

  744. Brien the General Says:

    # Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 12:14 pm

    MR, must it always be racist to mention the intellectual shortcomings of a black person? Any ethnically-neutral observer would doubtless conclude that Russell was not, um… well-served by the Mobile, Alabama and Louisiana State school systems.
    ******************
    It has nada to do with Alabama or Lousiana. It has to do with him not giving a damn

  745. weaselbit Says:

    Hard to explain Gannon’s sudden downfall.
    Gives the SB away.
    Then the next year he’s one of the worst in the nfl.

  746. Crow Says:

    Oh…there they are. Nevermind.

  747. Brien the General Says:

    # weaselbit Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 12:20 pm

    # UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 12:15 pm

    javon walker = marcus allen treatment

    Weaselbit:

    When did Walker even remotely accomplish anything close to Marcus Allen?
    That comparison makes no sense.
    *********************

    LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

  748. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Brien, I hardly listen to rap at all anymore, and I never watch music videos. Are they even on anymore? Keep reaching, whitey.

  749. Oakglenn Says:

    # UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 12:15 pm

    javon walker = marcus allen treatment
    ========================================

    Actually not. One of the big feuds between Davis and Kiffin was Davis wanted his young receivers to get playing time to advance the team more quickly. Kiffin opted for Ron Curry (out of league), Ashley Lelie (out of league) and Javon Walker (should be out of league). Once the young players (Higgins/Shilens) started to perform so did the offense. Davis figures the best way to get this show on the road quickly is by letting Murphy/Shilens/DHB develop instead of going with guys like Jivin and Jeff Garcia.

  750. raideredoutL.A. Says:

    was that a “russell sucks” chant i heard around the 3rd quarter? i’m emotionally scarred from watching these games year after year.

  751. Brien the General Says:

    Gannon told the damn truth. I wasnt a big Gannon guy or whatever but cant argue with what was said

  752. UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER Says:

    weaselbit Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 12:20 pm
    # UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 12:15 pm

    javon walker = marcus allen treatment

    Weaselbit:

    When did Walker even remotely accomplish anything close to Marcus Allen?
    That comparison makes no sense.

    ============================================

    al is sitting him while he is healthy that’s all i meant i was’nt comparing the 2 in any way other than that.

  753. Brien the General Says:

    Raideredout……………guess who help lead the chant? I DID

  754. UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER Says:

    oakglenn

    if not frye or gradowski what would you suggest. i mean we cannot stick with JaPoatroast thats obvious.

    our defense is going to give up points when the offense is cont. going 3 and out and throwing 1st down int’s

    something has to be done it’s a good thing we do not play detroit this year.

  755. Oakglenn Says:

    # Brien the General Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 12:25 pm

    Raideredout……………guess who help lead the chant? I DID
    ==============================================

    I actually HEARD you start that chant! And the entire crowd picked it up quickly. It really made me cringe too Bri. I don’t blame you or the fans for being disgusted or booing or chanting. We are ALL tired of seeing what we are seeing out there. The only problem I had with it is the offense then went completely into self destruct mode, which always happens. It happens EVERY TIME. Same exact thing happened in the late game last nite. Zona fan started booing Zona, and they completely self destructed. It happens every time.

  756. weaselbit Says:

    After the 1st game I thought, “We lost but the team looks improved and had some nice drives.”

    After the 2nd I got this creepy sense of foreboding.

    They lost me after the 1st half of this last one.

    It’s taking the fun out of being a Raider fan.

  757. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 12:14 pm

    MR, must it always be racist to mention the intellectual shortcomings of a black person?

    ……

    If you’re specifically making the point to insult black people? Yes. Name one thing black people do wrong that white people don’t do themselves, Bo.

  758. Brien the General Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 12:23 pm

    Brien, I hardly listen to rap at all anymore, and I never watch music videos. Are they even on anymore? Keep reaching, whitey.
    **********************

    Just awful! Copying me even! LOL I tell people to stop reaching but yet you wanna copy me. LOL too funny MR too funny. That is why I always enjoy your posts. Always brings extra laughter to my life.

    When did I say anything about music videos? LOL hilarious

  759. Raider Headbutt Says:

    I would honestly not be suprised of we do not win another game this year with the way our offense is playing.

    That which means we could possibly get the #1 pick. This is not a reach by any means at all.

  760. getoutofoakland Says:

    go back to L.A. we dont want u here!

  761. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Oakglenn, have any sources that Kiffin was the one who wanted Javon Walker, Ashley Lelie, and Ron Curry?

  762. UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER Says:

    don’t get me wrong im not defending javon w. i have stated many times before when you MAKE IT RAIN IN A CLUB IN VEGAS you get what you get.

    i just read his interviews and he say’s he’s healthy making cuts ready to go and he cannot understand why he’s not playing. one of the reports should tell him to refer to marcus allen.

  763. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Brien the General Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 11:38 am
    Nnamdi…growing pains? Loser pains

    =========================

    Eloquent and concise argument. You have swayed me sir. Russell is the worst guy since Hitler

  764. Brien the General Says:

    Anyhow………..time to shake the spot. MR have a great day lying and defending Russell.

    MR, go find a woman so you end your drought of never feeling a woman’s warmth lol

  765. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 12:14 pm

    MR, must it always be racist to mention the intellectual shortcomings of a black person?

    ……

    If you’re specifically making the point to insult black people? Yes. Name one thing black people do wrong that white people don’t do themselves, Bo.

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Talking about ONE person here…not a race. And anyways, saying one person (who happens to be black) is stupid does not REMOTELY imply that there are NO white stupid people.

    Your logic = missing.

  766. wishbone Says:

    Can someone please explain something for me? I am neither black nor white, but why is it if a non-black person critisizes a horrible black quarterback they are a racist. If a player stinks and is not capable of getting the job done who the &uck care what color they are. If JaIdiot can run the offense, complete passes & win games that would be great. However he can’t do that. He can even pull his head out of his fat a&&.

  767. Brien the General Says:

    Hitler was crazy but he wasnt as bad as Stalin or Mao. Hitler was an amazing speaker and knew how to move the crowd. Too bad he was a mad man

  768. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Brien, I’m sorry, you’re right. You did coin the phrase “keep reaching”. I just looked it up. That’s absolutely true. Wow. Amazing. Not only are you an expert on every single topic from black accents to the Kardashians, you’ve also invented many modern day pop phrases. I’m so honored to be chatting with you right now.

  769. weaselbit Says:

    After the 1st game I thought, “We lost but the team looks improved and had some nice drives.”

    After the 2nd I got this creepy sense of foreboding.

    They lost me after the 1st half of this last one.

    It’s taking the fun out of being a Raider fan. Sp there you go.

  770. elguapo2010 Says:

    Jamarcus is fatso!
    I just saw him at a taco truck at lunch time! Gordo!

  771. UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER Says:

    from twitter

    Adam_SchefterCould be a long year in Miami. @mortreport reporting on ESPN that QB Chad Pennington is out for the year

    HOW COME WE CANNOT BE SO LUCKY ???

  772. Oakglenn Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 12:30 pm

    Oakglenn, have any sources that Kiffin was the one who wanted Javon Walker, Ashley Lelie, and Ron Curry?
    ================================================

    Yeah, check the starting lineups of the games. And see who was inactive for those same games.

  773. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Sure, Brien. Only someone who doesn’t get laid would take offense to your open racism. There’s a bunch of guys who don’t get laid waiting for your white a ss in any black neighborhood in America, Brien, for you to talk your racist s’t there, too. Have a good day.

  774. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Oakglenn, Al Davis is involved with team operations. How does the starting lineup determine that Kiffin was the one who wanted those guys?

  775. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # Brien the General Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 12:31 pm

    Hitler was crazy but he wasnt as bad as Stalin or Mao. Hitler was an amazing speaker and knew how to move the crowd. Too bad he was a mad man

    …………..

    Something you always hear from black people. Could there be anymore doubt as to your obvious whiteness? I used to think that maybe you were a white kid who grew up in the town, and has sort of a love/hate relationship with your black neighbors. Now I’m picturing Shilinger from Oz.

  776. Oakglenn Says:

    Kiffin was not the ones who signed them, but kiffin was the one who played them instead of developing the younger players. That was my point. It is pretty well documented, look it up yourself.

  777. JB Says:

    Right now we’d lose to the Detroit Lions.

    Pretty damn sad if you ask me. $32 million dollars doesn’t buy us what it used to. Instead of getting the standard pile of crap we’ve now got the giant economy sized pile. Whoopie!

  778. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Oakglenn, based on what you’ve said and what I already know about this franchise, I’m not convinced it was Kiffin who wanted those guys. Unless you’ve got any kind of proof, i.e., Kiffin outright saying he wanted them, etc. Sounds like you’re reaching to clear Al’s name in regards to the mess this team is in. Anyone with a brain knows that Al makes the final call, on just about everything.

  779. LA to TheBay Says:

    The media shouldn’t ask Cable if he considered pulling Russell as QB, they should have asked him if he’s considered pulling himself as playcaller.

    Or is he?

    The plays he called last year in Tampa, with Al Davis 3,000 miles away, were pretty solid. Matter of fact, so were the ones he called in week one.

    Something or someone got to him.

  780. Oakglenn Says:

    Sure MR. Right down to the play calling. He sends the plays in by smoke signals. From his booth. Warren Sapp told us.

  781. DKnight007 Says:

    UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
    from twitter

    Adam_SchefterCould be a long year in Miami. @mortreport reporting on ESPN that QB Chad Pennington is out for the year

    HOW COME WE CANNOT BE SO LUCKY ???

    ^^^^^^Chad Henne migh actually do decent….at least he can throw the ball down the field and has an arm.

  782. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    I’m out of here, guys. This word press is raising my blood pressure.

  783. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    OK, Oakglenn. Al Davis isn’t involved at all. You’re right. So then, are you going to thank Jon Gruden for building us that team earlier this decade? See you later tonight, Oakglenn.

  784. wishbone Says:

    Al admitted that Kiffin didn’t want JaIdiot. He also didn’t want JLH or Mario Henderson. Two outta three aint bad. Bottom for better or for worse Al makes the draft pick, signs the free agents, chooses the defensive sheme, ect. The only thing Al does not do is wipe his own a&& or change his diaper. John Herrera does all that. Be prepared guys for more & more JaIdiot. He will go down in history as the worst full time starting QB in the NFL. Not even cryin Ryan Leaf is as low as JaIdiot. At least Ryan Leaf had half a brain. Not sure yet if JaIdiot has any. If you guys are wondering where Nick Miller is JaIdiot ate him.

  785. Oakglenn Says:

    # LA to TheBay Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 12:50 pm

    The media shouldn’t ask Cable if he considered pulling Russell as QB, they should have asked him if he’s considered pulling himself as playcaller.

    Or is he?

    The plays he called last year in Tampa, with Al Davis 3,000 miles away, were pretty solid. Matter of fact, so were the ones he called in week one.

    Something or someone got to him.
    ================================================

    I know you guys want to believe that on the deep throw out of the end zone, Al Davis sent a messenger down to the field to call that play. But, actually, that is not what happened. The lst pick Jamarcus threw was an old Bobby Bowden Florida State play, where backed up in your own end zone, you throw deep, hoping for a) a completion and big play or b) PI.
    The worst thing that happens, a pick, is like a punt, without the potential for disaster. Bowden has talked about doing that a lot in coaches meetings and I’ve seen it work both ways that he got the big play and where he got picked but it was like a punt
    . There were a lot of things that went wrong on that particular play: Russell throwing into double coverage was ridiculous, DHB falling down making it for an easy Int, and then getting a 25 yard return didn’t help matters either.

  786. Raiders4eve Says:

    I wonder if JR keeps proving that he is a bust, r we going to start Gradgowitzki or Frye or maybe bring back Jeff Garcia, but what abt RT Green is garbage too.

  787. DKnight007 Says:

    Who cares….until this the owner, owner, coaches and players start pulling their heads outta their collective a$$ses….I will keep betting against this team to LOSE until the OLD STUBBORN MAN AL DAVIS RETIRES OR DIES!

  788. LA to TheBay Says:

    Roast me if you wish, Nation

    Russell is not a bad QB.

    He is getting no help from his WRs or playcallers.

    He gets all the support in the owrld, maybe too much, from an organizational stand point.

    For now – he is the guy. Help him out a bit, this is your franchise, Al. We all know he’s got arm strength. Instead of showing it off, work on the stuff he needs to improve on or let him learn from the bench.

    Even if it takes a minute, I think he’ll be OK.

    Plunkett was a bust until he won a SB. Twice.

    Bradshaw was a bust. Until he won a SB. Four times.

    As a matter of fact, look at Bradshaw. Wasn’t #1 overall pick, but same comparisons to Russell.

    Sometimes it takes a minute, especially at that position.

    Matt Ryan has spoiled you.

    And as far as Ryan Leaf? Russell has been far better and is well liked by his teammates, as opposed to Leaf who was just a jackass.

  789. ottocrat Says:

    God, that sucked yesterday. All of you who didn’t see it were the lucky ones. It was garbage, and I couldn’t boo loud enough. This team, this organization, is a joke. Oh well, at least I got a nice tan.

  790. LA to TheBay Says:

    I know you’re all upset, I am too.

    Asking you to be patient is ridiculous, I know.

    But be patient.

  791. DKnight007 Says:

    LA to TheBay Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
    I know you’re all upset, I am too.

    Asking you to be patient is ridiculous, I know.

    But be patient.

    ^^^^^^^Be patient for what?

    The same pathetic game planning and strategy, along with UNCREATIVE schemes and play calling??

  792. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Liked to have heard the halftime phone call to Cable from Al Davis. Does anyone have the transcript. Dakota, do you have the link?

  793. Raider-405 Says:

    John Herrera sucks!!

    Gannon didnt make it to Oakland even after all that ballyhoo from last week:

    “That was a win-win situation for us,” said Raiders executive John Herrera,

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/09/28/gannon-didnt-show-up-at-the-raiders-facility-after-all/

  794. JB Says:

    It would be nice if JaBeefRoll was our only problem. Unfortunately, that’s not the case. Here’s my list of problem areas not necessarily in order of importance:

    • Inadequate talent level at: QB, C, RG, RT, WR, DT, DT, MLB, SSLB, FS
    • Inadequate talent level at HC, OC, DC
    • Operations over-involvement by ownership
    • Totally inadequate talent level in the scouting department

    This is a formula for failure. We continue to prove this point year after year. 1070/80 football schemes will no longer work in today’s game. The athletes are now much bigger, faster and better trained. With rare exception, yesterday’s stars would not be successful in today’s game. HOF OT Art Shell, in his prime, would not make the starting line-up on most teams today. He would be classified as too small and too slow. About the only position that could play today is the QB & the kickers. The QB’s had a brain and had to call their own plays. They had to be able to think and not just react. The kickers, well they are just kickers.

  795. raideralex909 Says:

    ill second u ouitofoakland ill be here waitin for my raiders to come home in la so that just maybe on the move jr slips and falls breaking both legs lol we need a spark plug from that position hes not it he dont care he doesnt know what it is to be a raider all the history of all the players that have come here its pride look in the mirror and be proud you jr you are not a raider you are just another fatbust qb from the south i wanted joe thomas then draft trent edwards not a fat lazy qb who just doesnt care about the raiders or their fans you just like cashin in those checks im tired of lossssssiiiinnnngggg

  796. DKnight007 Says:

    The way to show the stubborn old man Al that he needs to RETIRE from running personnel and operational matters is NOT GO TO THE GAMES!!

  797. wishbone Says:

    I was thinking of going to SF and get my hair cut just like pimp daddy JaMonk. Then I just remembered that the zoo is closed on Mondays.

  798. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    PFT reports Pennington out for the year. Perfect opportunity to trade J.R. for future considerations.

  799. TBuckey Says:

    it was too hard to watch that game yesterday and to hear that Russel had one passing yard in the second half….that’s just ridiculous.i believe in second chances but he’s had enough of those already I’d rather have Vick at QB at least he has better accuracy and can scramble which would be good with this incosistent line….hope CJ can hold up his own against Andre next week b/c i doubt he’ll do anything against Nnamdi.

  800. Tatumluvr Says:

    Well I flew in from LA this weekend to watch the game..section 232 row 10 seat 9 and that was BRUTAL!! to watch. The defense makes a terrific goaline stand early in the game and we couldn’t move the ball for $hit!..its official, Jarmarcus Russell is garbage! if you can’t read defenses you can’t play the QB position period end of story.

  801. wishbone Says:

    No team in their right mind would give anything more than a ham & cheese sandwich for JaMonk.

  802. DKnight007 Says:

    The thing that pisses me off the most is the lack of even attempting to HIDE their WEAKNESSES in a game as important as this one at home.

    After the KC game…..IT WAS FREAKIN OBVIOUS what the game plan should have been against the Donks….TO HIDE THEIR WEAKNESSES AND NOT FALL INTO BEING STUBBORN AND TRYING TIO FORCE THE ISSUE AGAINST THE DONKS and just FAIL miserably….

    Terrible game planning….terrible scheming…..terrible strategy…..terrible execution…..terrible EVERYTHING!

  803. RaiderRockstar Says:

    anybody with JaMarcus Russell starting on thier fantasy football team is a glutton for punishment.

  804. Dmac20 Says:

    I was thinking of going to SF and get my hair cut just like pimp daddy JaMonk. Then I just remembered that the zoo is closed
    —————————

    Wishbone is that supposed to be a racist statement? Ja”monkey” is what your reffering to when you say jamonk right? that’s what the whole “zoo” comment is about correct? I know it is and I just have to say your real ignorant for that. Jamaracus is sorry but it has nothing to do with race. There have been plenty piece of sh.. white qb’s like delhomme,ryan leaf, joey harrington, tim couch, david carr, and many more but nobody mentions race with them. I know jamarcus sucks but lets leave the racism out of this.

  805. TBuckey Says:

    Raiderrockstar,

    it’s funny you said that b/c i drafted Russel to sit on the bench in hopes that he would do good with Schilens but he’s hurt and Russel sucks.good thing i dropped him and have M. Ryan to back up P.Manning.

  806. Raiders4eve Says:

    Can someone create a website demanding al davis to either sell the team or allow coaches full decisions on their rosters, I think Cable would definitely bench JR start Bush, Walker in place of DMC n DHB, he would do better job in playing calling with some freedom can anyone contact the media and start a rally!!!

  807. LA to TheBay Says:

    Cable was forcing it downfield, at the behest of Davis.

    No more babying Russell.

    If you see the same playcalling in Houston, know the season is doomed.

    Russell is not bad when he’s not being asked to throw 40 yards downfield every other play. Then they gave up on the pass and offense in general in the second half.

    The film does not lie.

    You guys keep looking at these last three, really last two, games in a vacuum. Look at the big picture. I suggest you watch last year’s games if possible and compare. What’s different?

    It rhymes with ‘hay falling.’

  808. big chill Says:

    ok there’s multiple people telling me things about yesterday’s game for one the low pass to louis murphy was low cause the lineback would on intercepted if it was high, on the WR”s they were consistently not open, bailed covered DHB so the 2 safeties stayed to murphy’s side, not all blame should be going to JR, the whole team sucked, he of course is the QB and needs to step it up, but so does the rest of the team, i mean 3 fumbles from mcfadden is ridiculous, and why aren’t they running the ball more, just give it to bush over and over.

  809. The Big Banana Says:

    Well, I guess lil Kiffie was right to hold Russell back a little. He knew this is what would happen. And many of you blasted him for not turning JaMongues Bustus loose. Well, look where that got us.

    I’m not a Kiffin fan. Actually, I’m not a fan of any of these head coach hires. Cable needs to be coaching the O-line and we need a real coach that actually has a pair!

  810. Raiders4eve Says:

    With JR as our QB I think we end up 4-12, with Gradkowitzki maybe we end up 6-10 or 7-9 so why isn’t coach Al Davis admitting that we got the worst QB in the NFL

  811. Brien the General Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 12:38 pm

    # Brien the General Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 12:31 pm

    Hitler was crazy but he wasnt as bad as Stalin or Mao. Hitler was an amazing speaker and knew how to move the crowd. Too bad he was a mad man

    …………..

    Something you always hear from black people. Could there be anymore doubt as to your obvious whiteness? I used to think that maybe you were a white kid who grew up in the town, and has sort of a love/hate relationship with your black neighbors. Now I’m picturing Shilinger from Oz.
    ***************************

    LOL so you know what black people talk about eh? Well all talk the same I bet right? That is ridiculous. That would be equivalent to me saying that all white people say the same things and I know for a fact that isnt the case. People in any so called color have differing views on things. Not all black people lived in the “hood” nor are all suburban people soft. I’m one who is racist? LOL, you have your nerve.

  812. wishbone Says:

    Dmac20 did you see any post of mine where I mentioned race??? I refer JaMonk that way because of his lack of intelligence not the color of his skin. I don’t give a rats a&& what color or race a player is. When someone is making that kind of money he needs to do his freakin job and his homework. JaMonk has done neither. You need to have a little thicker skin my friend and stop playing the race card whenever your dumba&& feelings get hurt. JaMonk is a moron as far a being a quarterback as was Ryan Leaf. Judge people on the quality of their character and so far JaMonk has very little in the football player department. At this point I think I would rather have the most athletic animal at the zoo playing QB for the Raiders instead of JaMonk. At least the animal wouldn’t make ridiculous excuses.

  813. UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER Says:

    Adam_SchefterBest headline about the Lions victory over the Redskins: “Washington Bails out Detroit Again.”
    =====================================

    LMFAO

  814. Brien the General Says:

    Until Russell plays better he deserves the harsh treatment.

    Honestly, does Russell show pinpoint accuracy?

    Is Russell a guy who can escape pressure?

    Has he shown improvement worthy of a top overall pick?

    You people remind me of guys who go out to the club and blame the whole night on women being stuck up when in all actuality their game is just lacking. Stop with the excuses.

    Russell is the leader and his brigade just got their asses whipped and he acts as if it is nothing. 60 million reasons to believe that

  815. Brien the General Says:

    # wishbone Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 1:53 pm

    Dmac20 did you see any post of mine where I mentioned race??? I refer JaMonk that way because of his lack of intelligence not the color of his skin. I don’t give a rats a&& what color or race a player is. When someone is making that kind of money he needs to do his freakin job and his homework. JaMonk has done neither. You need to have a little thicker skin my friend and stop playing the race card whenever your dumba&& feelings get hurt. JaMonk is a moron as far a being a quarterback as was Ryan Leaf. Judge people on the quality of their character and so far JaMonk has very little in the football player department. At this point I think I would rather have the most athletic animal at the zoo playing QB for the Raiders instead of JaMonk. At least the animal wouldn’t make ridiculous excuses.
    *********************

    Dont trip……there are a bunch of black people at the Raider games who think the guy sucks as well. Sadly it isnt 100 pct of them as it should be. My entire family knows Russell sucks. My phone blew up since 1:30 yesterday!!!

  816. LA to TheBay Says:

    If Russell’s the captain of the brigade, Cable’s the general, and he takes his orders directly from President Davis.

    It’s worse than ‘Nam.

    Sending unprepared youngsters into hostile territory with a lack of leadership, motivation, and strategy, and you’ll witness the result.

    Russell does need to be the leader of this team. He needs to be more discipline. He needs to be smarter, more dedicated and better prepared.

    He could use some help from the general, but the general is scared of the President.

  817. LA to TheBay Says:

    new post.

  818. wishbone Says:

    These past three games and most of last season I was not watching a black quarterback. I watched an unintelligent, unprepared, immature, uncoordinated, unpolished BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD quarterback. JaMonk could be purple and change his name to Barney for all I care. If he performs the way he is supposed to, the way he is trained to & the way he is paid to he will still be a black quarterback, but he will also be a good quarterback. Nobody cares what the color of his skin is. It just so happens the JaMonk flows better than say Ryanmonk.

  819. Raiders4eve Says:

    I think JR is as bad as Alex Smith. B Quinn also looks bad so it’s ok we should have drafted Calvin Johnson.

  820. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Brien the General Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 1:53 pm

    You people remind me of guys who go out to the club and blame the whole night on women being stuck up when in all actuality their game is just lacking. Stop with the excuses.

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Jamarcus would be league MVP if it weren’t for them stuck up biotches.

  821. Brien the General Says:

    # Raiders4eve Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 2:06 pm

    I think JR is as bad as Alex Smith. B Quinn also looks bad so it’s ok we should have drafted Calvin Johnson.
    *******************

    Should have just took Adrian Peterson with the roids and jacked up hairline as well. Always a good option with either guy I think

  822. Brien the General Says:

    # Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 2:08 pm

    Brien the General Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 1:53 pm

    You people remind me of guys who go out to the club and blame the whole night on women being stuck up when in all actuality their game is just lacking. Stop with the excuses.

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Jamarcus would be league MVP if it weren’t for them stuck up biotches.
    *************************

    Bo you are such a racist lol

  823. Raiders4eve Says:

    Comcast sports channel broadcasting raiders press conference

  824. steveandblack Says:

    the Broncos won’t even sniff the playoffs… what a joke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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