Comments on: Cable: We’re on brink of getting this thing going http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2009/09/28/cable-were-on-brink-of-getting-this-thing-going/ A look inside the world of the highly classified Oakland Raiders from the writers of Bay Area News Group Wed, 22 May 2013 02:06:02 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: halster http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2009/09/28/cable-were-on-brink-of-getting-this-thing-going/comment-page-3/#comment-166110 halster Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:16:40 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/?p=7080#comment-166110 Sadly, it begins and ends with Al! Get over what it could be should be or any other scenarios as well meaned as they might be. As long as Al is there, there is no there! Sadly, it begins and ends with Al! Get over what it could be should be or any
other scenarios as well meaned as they might be. As long as Al is there, there is no there!

]]> By: UCSBPreMedMike http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2009/09/28/cable-were-on-brink-of-getting-this-thing-going/comment-page-3/#comment-165615 UCSBPreMedMike Tue, 29 Sep 2009 22:12:34 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/?p=7080#comment-165615 But seriously, I DO BELIEVE the personel on this team has what it takes, just as another other team. But the question is do THEY believe? Cable said that Russell will eventually be "what everybody wants him to be." THAT'S THE PROBLEM. It's not what everybody else wants him to be, WHAT DOES HE WANT TO BE? Did they ask him this before drafting him? It's been well documented that Russell is pretty careless since the beginnning. And it's unfortuante. It's unfortunate that ALL of these coaches and players take what they have for granted and forget that playing for the Raiders is much more than just collecting a check. They forget that fans like me aren't fans because they are some local team. Or that since society has said I'm a gang member, then I must like the Raiders. I am a fan because I believe in what the Raiders once stood for, in what the Raiders once represented. At 27, I'm finally looking at my bachelor's by the end of the year. I started when I was 21 with a crazy idea of becoming a doctor. Unlike high school, I was doing pretty well in school, but at the same time the Raiders weren't. EVERYDAY I think about police officers, teachers, coworkers telling me I wouldn't be anything in life...just as many have told players in the NFL that they wouldn't be anything else in football. Nobody believed in them, except themselves. Al gave them a chance. He gave them a chance and they proved that they could do it. They could WIN! They proved that they were worth something. But that drive, the same drive I have to be the first among ANYBODY I've ever known to go to college, more less medical school is what these players are missing. It hurts all of us fans, that have been fans long before these players even began playing football, to be disrespected. Sadly, it's not just football that we're losing...it's our identity...it's our heart....it's our drive to have an opportunity and come out on top and kick some a$$ for 4 hours of Raider Football. And sadly, just for the reasons that drive me to shut everyone up about how I STILL can't make it into medical school, I hope this damned organization finds it quick, THIS SEASON. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH, do what you have to do get the play book down. Coaches, call the plays the give these gusy the opportunities to win, Offense more than anything, put in more hours of running the plays to get this down. Russell???? Come on man...be the leader and bring the entire community back together. You're play is bigger than you or anything you could have ever imagined. But seriously, I DO BELIEVE the personel on this team has what it takes, just as another other team. But the question is do THEY believe? Cable said that Russell will eventually be “what everybody wants him to be.”

THAT’S THE PROBLEM. It’s not what everybody else wants him to be, WHAT DOES HE WANT TO BE? Did they ask him this before drafting him? It’s been well documented that Russell is pretty careless since the beginnning. And it’s unfortuante. It’s unfortunate that ALL of these coaches and players take what they have for granted and forget that playing for the Raiders is much more than just collecting a check.

They forget that fans like me aren’t fans because they are some local team. Or that since society has said I’m a gang member, then I must like the Raiders. I am a fan because I believe in what the Raiders once stood for, in what the Raiders once represented.

At 27, I’m finally looking at my bachelor’s by the end of the year. I started when I was 21 with a crazy idea of becoming a doctor. Unlike high school, I was doing pretty well in school, but at the same time the Raiders weren’t. EVERYDAY I think about police officers, teachers, coworkers telling me I wouldn’t be anything in life…just as many have told players in the NFL that they wouldn’t be anything else in football. Nobody believed in them, except themselves. Al gave them a chance. He gave them a chance and they proved that they could do it. They could WIN! They proved that they were worth something. But that drive, the same drive I have to be the first among ANYBODY I’ve ever known to go to college, more less medical school is what these players are missing.

It hurts all of us fans, that have been fans long before these players even began playing football, to be disrespected. Sadly, it’s not just football that we’re losing…it’s our identity…it’s our heart….it’s our drive to have an opportunity and come out on top and kick some a$$ for 4 hours of Raider Football.

And sadly, just for the reasons that drive me to shut everyone up about how I STILL can’t make it into medical school, I hope this damned organization finds it quick, THIS SEASON. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH, do what you have to do get the play book down. Coaches, call the plays the give these gusy the opportunities to win, Offense more than anything, put in more hours of running the plays to get this down. Russell???? Come on man…be the leader and bring the entire community back together. You’re play is bigger than you or anything you could have ever imagined.

]]> By: raiderdeek http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2009/09/28/cable-were-on-brink-of-getting-this-thing-going/comment-page-3/#comment-165599 raiderdeek Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:48:16 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/?p=7080#comment-165599 "Since moving Russell to guard isn’t an option..." Why is this not an option? He weighs just as much as any O-lineman. And did you guys see him leadblock on the reverse in the San Diego game? I thought it was Cornell Green for a split second. “Since moving Russell to guard isn’t an option…”

Why is this not an option? He weighs just as much as any O-lineman. And did you guys see him leadblock on the reverse in the San Diego game? I thought it was Cornell Green for a split second.

]]> By: UCSBPreMedMike http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2009/09/28/cable-were-on-brink-of-getting-this-thing-going/comment-page-3/#comment-165603 UCSBPreMedMike Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:47:18 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/?p=7080#comment-165603 If Cable is wrong, and we are ALL right, then I propose: 2010: Gruden as head coach. Gannon as GM. Russell can serve out the rest of his contract as our PR man since he's always soooo positive. Draft a line. Don't bring Vick in, consider bringing back Garcia for a year...maybe...see what else is out there. What's sad is these potentially very dangerous "rookies" are going to get use to losing, and will never know what it's like, more less know how to win with the current situation....just like us fans have gotten use to losing. We are not just risking a QB who may or may not EVER develop into a QB, we risk losing an ENTIRE team that DOES have Super Bowl potential. If it's coaching, then fix it. Don't hold back the play book, open the damn thing up. Give people a chance to rise to the occasion and see who will seize it. Unless...of course, these coaches and players are just using the Raiders as a "stepping stone" kinda of like Kiffin anticipated his time here would be. If Cable is wrong, and we are ALL right, then I propose:

2010: Gruden as head coach. Gannon as GM. Russell can serve out the rest of his contract as our PR man since he’s always soooo positive. Draft a line. Don’t bring Vick in, consider bringing back Garcia for a year…maybe…see what else is out there. What’s sad is these potentially very dangerous “rookies” are going to get use to losing, and will never know what it’s like, more less know how to win with the current situation….just like us fans have gotten use to losing. We are not just risking a QB who may or may not EVER develop into a QB, we risk losing an ENTIRE team that DOES have Super Bowl potential. If it’s coaching, then fix it. Don’t hold back the play book, open the damn thing up. Give people a chance to rise to the occasion and see who will seize it. Unless…of course, these coaches and players are just using the Raiders as a “stepping stone” kinda of like Kiffin anticipated his time here would be.

]]> By: halster http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2009/09/28/cable-were-on-brink-of-getting-this-thing-going/comment-page-3/#comment-165487 halster Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:26:15 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/?p=7080#comment-165487 Hello all, I'm new to the blogs but I have to say that I haven't laughed so hard in along time! As a longtime Raider fan I haven't had anything to laugh at for a while so thanks for that. First of all I have read all the comments and for the most part I agree with the digs on most of the under achievers. Lets not forget who has all the say in who is drafted, traded for or to and how the team is run. Al Davis is the man behind the curtain period! When I read that we are seeing Al go back to the vertical game, I have to say that even in the 60's and 70's "The Bomb" was a function of solid ground game with short and medium passes to the backs,recievers and the tightends. If you look at any of the most successful Raider teams this was also the case. As for Al's genius in finding players either through the draft, trades or off the waver wire, he had Ron Wolf doing that job. The problem with the Raiders is Al. It doesn't matter who coaches the team. As long as Al has the power the Raiders will fail. We have all probably even worked for someone that hasn't had a clue about running a job or an organization. They would rather go down with the ship than be right. Al is going down with the ship. I recently told my daughter who is a bigtime Raider fan that it might be time to give the team a rest untill either they turn it around or Al has a stroke and his son or some other responsible adult take over. My personal choice for the short term is the Colts. You don't have to guess what they are about or where they are going. I am still a Raider fan but as most of you I can't afford either mentally or financially to invest my valuble time watching the train wreck! So while I still care and remember the fantastic games( I was at many of them), I will continue to watch the news for Al's demise. Hello all, I’m new to the blogs but I have to say that I haven’t
laughed so hard in along time! As a longtime Raider fan I haven’t
had anything to laugh at for a while so thanks for that. First of all
I have read all the comments and for the most part I agree with
the digs on most of the under achievers. Lets not forget who has
all the say in who is drafted, traded for or to and how the team is
run. Al Davis is the man behind the curtain period! When I read that we are seeing Al go back to the vertical game, I have to say that even in the 60’s and 70’s “The Bomb” was a function of solid ground game with short and medium passes to the backs,recievers and the tightends. If you look at any of the most successful Raider teams this was also the case. As for Al’s genius in finding players either through the draft, trades or off the waver wire, he had Ron Wolf
doing that job. The problem with the Raiders is Al. It doesn’t matter who coaches the team. As long as Al has the power the Raiders will fail. We have all probably even worked for someone that hasn’t had a clue about running a job or an organization. They would rather go down with the ship than be right. Al is going down with the ship.
I recently told my daughter who is a bigtime Raider fan that it might be time to give the team a rest untill either they turn it around or Al has a stroke and his son or some other responsible adult take over.
My personal choice for the short term is the Colts. You don’t have to guess what they are about or where they are going. I am still a Raider fan but as most of you I can’t afford either mentally or financially to invest my valuble time watching the train wreck! So while I still care and remember the fantastic games( I was at many of them), I will continue to watch the news for Al’s demise.

]]> By: fletcher http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2009/09/28/cable-were-on-brink-of-getting-this-thing-going/comment-page-3/#comment-165226 fletcher Tue, 29 Sep 2009 13:58:33 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/?p=7080#comment-165226 Here is my problem with the Riaders and what they are trying to do: 1st Copy what the Saints do with Reggie Bush. Darren Mcfadden needs to on the field as much as possible but not as the primary running back. Michael Bush should be carrying the ball about 18 to 0 times a game. He will tire out defenses leaving it easy pickins for Mcfadden with his speed to catch passes and for some runs mostly on the outer edge. 2nd and this will never happen because of our owner is to reshuffle the receivers and their roles that they are in. Heywood-Bey can not get out of the way of his own feet. That's ok... it's rare for a first year receiver to actually do anything in his first year. He is constanly tripping and falling to the ground making Russells throws look worse then they are. Play Bey... but as a 4th receiver not a number 1 or 2. Walker should be number 2 Shillins who really needs to get back at number 1 and Murphy at 3. With Shillins and Walker playing Murphy will look that much better and Bey will get reps and have a lot less pressure on him. Thats all for now... let me know what you think... it was my first post on this site. Here is my problem with the Riaders and what they are trying to do: 1st Copy what the Saints do with Reggie Bush. Darren Mcfadden needs to on the field as much as possible but not as the primary running back. Michael Bush should be carrying the ball about 18 to 0 times a game. He will tire out defenses leaving it easy pickins for Mcfadden with his speed to catch passes and for some runs mostly on the outer edge.
2nd and this will never happen because of our owner is to reshuffle the receivers and their roles that they are in. Heywood-Bey can not get out of the way of his own feet. That’s ok… it’s rare for a first year receiver to actually do anything in his first year. He is constanly tripping and falling to the ground making Russells throws look worse then they are. Play Bey… but as a 4th receiver not a number 1 or 2. Walker should be number 2 Shillins who really needs to get back at number 1 and Murphy at 3. With Shillins and Walker playing Murphy will look that much better and Bey will get reps and have a lot less pressure on him. Thats all for now… let me know what you think… it was my first post on this site.

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]]> By: DarthPirate http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2009/09/28/cable-were-on-brink-of-getting-this-thing-going/comment-page-3/#comment-165165 DarthPirate Tue, 29 Sep 2009 05:37:24 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/?p=7080#comment-165165 McFadden's still on the team? Well that sucks. McFadden’s still on the team? Well that sucks.

]]> By: omniscience http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2009/09/28/cable-were-on-brink-of-getting-this-thing-going/comment-page-3/#comment-165162 omniscience Tue, 29 Sep 2009 05:27:32 +0000 http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/?p=7080#comment-165162 playcalling also suck when you have a struggling QB and are suppose tb be a running team why freaking start throwing out of your endzone? playcalling also suck when you have a struggling QB and are suppose tb be a running team why freaking start throwing out of your endzone?

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