NFL Network: Hanson talked to police
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, September 28th, 2009 at 4:54 pm in Oakland Raiders.
The NFL Network’s JasonLaCanfora is reporting Randy Hanson has talked to Napa police and named coach Tom Cable as the man who threw the punch.
Attorney John McGuinn, who represents Hanson, called it a “textbook case of felony assault” but didn’t know if and when charges would be filed.
When Cable was asked if he had talked to law enforcement last week, he said he had not.
The Napa police department has not updated its Aug. 21 report on the matter, which occurred Aug. 5 at the Napa Marriott during training camp.
The NFL is waiting for the Napa investigation to run its course before determining if there will be discipline forthcoming from the league.
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September 28th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
At this point ….
How can Cable run this team if the DBs are going to Hanson for advice?
LMFAO!
This is UNBELIEVABLE !!!!!!!!
September 28th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
Cable’s getttin loooocked up, they won’t let him out…..
September 28th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
I already reported this lol
September 28th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
Repost-
Agreed Jhill. If a person that has “caused trouble” last year with Kiffin and this year with Cable is still wanted for advice by some players, something is wrong there.
September 28th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
Ok,
So CJ is on the radio yesterday openly complaining about the vanilla defensive scheme.
Now we hear that Hanson is coaching these guys behind the scenes instead of Marshall and Washington?
ARE YOU SERIOUS?!?!?!?
Fugg it Al! Go ahead and fire Cable, give Hanson the GM position, and let him bring in Cowher or Gruden.
September 28th, 2009 at 5:10 pm
Announced as soon as Cable said “We’re on the verge of getting things going.”
September 28th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
Listen, these coaches came in to coach AL DAVIS football. Its their failing for not executing it properly cuz it works WHEN ITS EXECUTED PROPERLY!
At least thats Davis’s stand.
“If theres a new way, I’ll be the first in line, but it better work this time!”
September 28th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
pats just signed t. sands. haha how many of our players can they get?
September 28th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
Growing pains…
September 28th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
I have the worst luck with sporting teams, i am from toronto though so im a little biased.
Leafs last cup- 67
Jays havnt made the playoffs since the WS they won.
Raps suck
and the one sport we dont have a team (not including the CFL) Raiders. Welcome to my life
September 28th, 2009 at 5:14 pm
AlisGod,
You talk about running to mothers…yet you elect to use derogatory nicknames like “JaBustus”
Get off your high horse man.
I am on board with next week. Its the last shot…hopefully Schilens is the difference maker.
But this team (organization, players, coaches) has been a HUGE disappointment so far. Same ole crap from the last 6years. Can they turn it around. Yes if they:
1. Run Michael Bush 20+ times
2. Stop throwing deep with Russell…he can’t do it
3. Bench HEyward-Bey…what good is he right now
4. Play JLH and Schilens…get some freekn familiarity
5. Turn playcalling over to Tollner
6. Tell Davis to leave John marshall alone
September 28th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
jhill Says:
September 28th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
Ok,
So CJ is on the radio yesterday openly complaining about the vanilla defensive scheme.
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I listened last night too. It was eye-opening. The players know that the schemes etc…are B.S….sad, they’ve even gone to the coaches and asked them to change it up. davis won’tlet them. what a joke.
I wish we could elect Nnamdi as the “Player-Coach” and let him run the team.
September 28th, 2009 at 5:17 pm
Plunketthead Says:
September 28th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
MR—— Gruden ruined two franchises and left them in disarry.
………
Yeh. It was all Gruden’s fault we lost yesterday. Gruden drafted all of our players, and was calling all of the plays. Plunkethead, the real Jim Plunket should throw a football at your head and peel it like an onion. It could only make you smarter, considering you’re the dumbest person on the planet.
September 28th, 2009 at 5:18 pm
Despite all the madness ….
I’m going down with the ship. Fugg every other team out there in the NFL. I’ll still be watching the Silver and Black EVERY Sunday, win or lose. Heartbreak and all.
I’m with my squad all day long!
September 28th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
JHill,
Al Davis is poisoning this whole situation. THe Raiders go out and lay these turds where they roll-up statistics that are unprofessional.
Davis’ schemes are too antiquated to work consistently. That’s clear.
Occassionally they get a good matchup or an arrogant opponent that overlooks them and they find a walnut.
Then you add the underperformance of the playcalling and players not playing to standard and you have this disaster.
How can you add a Richard Seymour and Greg Ellis and still have a poor run defense? Because the looks are vanilla. Davis doesn’t care that the opponent will watch tape and prepare for the game.
Stupid!
September 28th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
Plunkett Head. Dead on about Chucky. RMR doesn’t know what he’s talking about. Gruden’s “bring in vets and let them run the show routine and bad drafts hurt us and them.
September 28th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
Jhill: Me too…
September 28th, 2009 at 5:21 pm
MoRon
September 28th, 2009 at 5:22 pm
Me three
September 28th, 2009 at 5:23 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
September 28th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
Listen, these coaches came in to coach AL DAVIS football. Its their failing for not executing it properly cuz it works WHEN ITS EXECUTED PROPERLY!
At least thats Davis’s stand.
“If theres a new way, I’ll be the first in line, but it better work this time!”
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You have to disguise the damn thing. You have to mix it up. You have to make adjustments.
The Raiders act with bravado. We are going to beat you up. Forget strategy.
Nnamdi21, there is no strategy with the Raiders. They don’t even let Nnamdi shadow the best receiver occassionally. The team runs a bunch of stuff in the pre-season and it all disappears come the regular season.
Hopefully, this whippin they received by a sorry azz team is a wake up call.
Probably not because DAvis is so damn stubborn and Cable is collecting a pay check
September 28th, 2009 at 5:23 pm
Too bad JaManwich didn’t throw the punch. Hell, the OPD should’ve arrested him after that 2nd pick yesterday…
September 28th, 2009 at 5:23 pm
Nnamdi, you’re right, Plunkethead nailed it. Gruden ruined this franchise. Everything that happened on that field yesterday was Gruden’s fault. Everything. Gruden drafted all of those players, called the plays, the whole 9. It’s now obvious that neither your or plunkethead made it beyond the 6th grade.
September 28th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
per JMcD Tweet:
we’re on the brink of getting this thing going.
per DWhite Tweet
Cable says they are close to being very good.
*** Are you kidding me? Is this week 1 and we lost a close one at the end?
Hate the company line BS, its the same 6 year coach regurgitation. What should he say? I dont know but clearly the same routine over and over isnt exactly working as expected…
and bottom line, Al Davis can bleed silver and black more than all of us combined, there is a bottom line $$ that takes presidance over anything else.
45k in attendance at a game in September – maybe in December in a 3-13 season, but 1-1 divisional home game?!?
September 28th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
Hanson was / IS nothing more than Al’s snitch
September 28th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
September 28th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
Listen, these coaches came in to coach AL DAVIS football.
…………
HA HA HA!!! Al Davis football!!! What is Al Davis football? I challenge you to explain to us what Al Davis football actually is, you crackhead. I bet you don’t even know. You just say it because it sounds good.
September 28th, 2009 at 5:27 pm
***Post’s of the Year***
# Oakglenn Says:
June 5th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
Alston is a savvy guy. He should play well for us.
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Oakglenn Says:
June 8th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
Anyone with half a brain can see that Jamarcus Russell is a bonafide franchise Q.
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# Oakglenn Says:
June 8th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
Mark Sanchez is a bust.
September 28th, 2009 at 5:28 pm
MoRon your childish insults are more proof of what an imbecile you are. 3 years plus at jerryland 24/7/52
From attacking posters with jr high insults to wishing Al dead to praising Cable and JR.
Dont go away mad, just go away
Dont bother responding
September 28th, 2009 at 5:28 pm
Imagine the beat down we are going to receive on Thanksgiving Day with millions watching…eeek!
September 28th, 2009 at 5:28 pm
As I said before, 7-9!
MR is my witness.
September 28th, 2009 at 5:29 pm
Well, 405 …
Apparently Hanson IS more than Al’s snitch.
Will someone PUH-LEEZE explain to me why the DBs are going to him for coaching DESPITE him being suspended and “at odds” with the HC?
At this point, I have ZERO confidence in Cable. He is clearly another HC who is learning on the job. I thought he had the players in the locker room, but obviously that didn’t last long.
September 28th, 2009 at 5:29 pm
This is confirmation Oakglen is operating with a “half a brain”
Oakglenn Says:
June 8th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
Anyone with half a brain can see that Jamarcus Russell is a bonafide franchise Q.
September 28th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
JHill,
We’ve all gone/going down with the ship. But this is about it here. A Waterloo moment for Davis.
If they go 1-4 its over. Draft talk time…and we can rekindle our debate on a new position…perhaps RT/RG
But heres the problem. If Russell is not the answer…what do you do? Sign Grossman? Losman? Vick? Your screwed because teams don’t release good QBs….notice how Leftwhich is on the bench after 3 wks.
Then you have a receiver in Heyward-Bey that will need to be rebuilt…that rarely works…the D-Line will be an issue because no way Seymour reups in that environment…not too mention glaring holes in other positions…
Wow…they have to win next week man! Schilens has to be FORCED into action….season is on the line.
I said 2-2 minimum….well here we go
September 28th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
Can I pls post in the future too?
I’ll be O6000!
September 28th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
Mistabrown,
So Oakglenn was optimistic. So what…you can find posts like that from me litered throughout the blog just a few days ago.
What good does it do to be negative for weeks and months on end. What’s the point in following the team at that point?
If the Raiders wipe out against Houston…I am done following the team closely…still will follow…but not intently….and I won’t be blogging negative crap for 13 more wks.
September 28th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
JHill, the reason I won’t sign on and support the team is because Plunkethead said that Jon Gruden ruined the franchise. What’s the point? Gruden ruined us, dude. We have no chance.
September 28th, 2009 at 5:32 pm
I post from the past!!
I’m the Lizard King,..,..
Later Gents!
September 28th, 2009 at 5:32 pm
Hanson is on the sidelines? I thought he was removed from the team and hasnt been back….
September 28th, 2009 at 5:32 pm
Mistabrown Says:
September 28th, 2009 at 5:28 pm
Imagine the beat down we are going to receive on Thanksgiving Day with millions watching…eeek!
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Always remember that the pupil can never beat the teacher. Jerry Jones is Al Davis all day long. The Dallas fans, believe it or not, are just as tired of Romo as we are of JRuss.
The Cowgirls are a bigger joke than we are. For all the hype, win was there last playoff win? LOL!
I think the Cowgirls are one of our 5 wins this year.
September 28th, 2009 at 5:32 pm
theres 31 teams and then theres the raiders, wow its just a circus lol a CIRCUS, this is by far the worst sports franchise is all sports and I thought the Clippers were bad, but this the RAIDERS are on a league of their own holy s*it what next?
September 28th, 2009 at 5:32 pm
read the article 405
September 28th, 2009 at 5:33 pm
Our Linebackers are really hurting us. Brown & Morrison are just not cutting it. The Safetys are a pleasant surprise but JaMeatball has taken the wind out of their sails, actually both sides of the ball unfortunately.
September 28th, 2009 at 5:33 pm
Plunkethead, in all seriousness, for how many more years do you plan to blame Gruden for how bad we are? Say, 2012, 10 years after he’s left? 2022?
September 28th, 2009 at 5:33 pm
Can somebody tell me why there hasn’t been ONE freakin WR bubble screen thrown to DHB yet to at least get him some easy catches???
Kinda like the way Childress and Favre having been throwing some to Percy Harvin to get him some easy catches and get his confidence going??
Freakin RIDICULOUS!!!
September 28th, 2009 at 5:35 pm
I think he got his pay off money, and it is what it is. As far as players reaching out, that to me aint much because he can be looked at as a mentor or something they could understand from. If he were back on the sidelines or in the facility, that would change everything.
September 28th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
JHill,
Sadly I think you are on to something. But still, Davis is going to have his hands on game strategy and 100% control of personnell.
Unfortunately, Cable is our only hope. Perhaps Jim Fassell would have been a good pick. I said keep Cable for continuity.
But his playcalling is atrocious
September 28th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
Jhill, you cant be serious! You are approaching Preist/Oakgln status with that lunacy!
smh
September 28th, 2009 at 5:37 pm
The Raiders are the only team that never lost a game at the old Texas boot stadium.
September 28th, 2009 at 5:37 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 28th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
JHill,
Al Davis is poisoning this whole situation. THe Raiders go out and lay these turds where they roll-up statistics that are unprofessional.
Davis’ schemes are too antiquated to work consistently. That’s clear.
Occassionally they get a good matchup or an arrogant opponent that overlooks them and they find a walnut.
Then you add the underperformance of the playcalling and players not playing to standard and you have this disaster.
How can you add a Richard Seymour and Greg Ellis and still have a poor run defense? Because the looks are vanilla. Davis doesn’t care that the opponent will watch tape and prepare for the game.
Stupid!
^^^^^^^^Yep! I have been saying the same damn thing!
September 28th, 2009 at 5:37 pm
Well SnB,
That’s the million dollar question.
I say make Hanson the GM. At least the position will be filled by a young guy who Davis trusts, and who by all accounts is a tireless worker.
Then, let Hanson hire Gruden, Cowher, or Dungy, or soon to be fired Jack Del Rio.
That’s where I would start. I wouldn’t even worry about the personell until the GM and coaching situation is solidified.
September 28th, 2009 at 5:38 pm
Jerry Jones is a lot of things..but he’s not quite Davis.
Jones is like Davis in that he is the dominant force on personnell decisions and ignores football IQ, chemistry and all that.
But I don’t think Jerry Jones meddles in game preparation and planning like Davis does.
Jerry was never a coach so his knowledge on the X’s and O’s would be limited.
I wish Davis would either leave the game planning or the personnell alone.. Davis! Just pick one to screw up
September 28th, 2009 at 5:38 pm
Id say Zorn gets fired before Del Rio
September 28th, 2009 at 5:39 pm
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September 28th, 2009 at 5:39 pm
RMR give it a rest we got it already, gruden didnt ruin the team, is that what you need to hear? I hope so, cuz you’re more annoying then a hemroid
September 28th, 2009 at 5:39 pm
Plunkethead, hello??? You said that Gruden ruined this franchise, which must mean that his prints were on yesterday’s game. To ruin is to infinitely destroy. So, how long are you going to blame Gruden? How many years? How many decades? It’s obvious you believe Gruden has more of an impact on the 2009 Raiders than even Al Davis. Have you considered getting mental help?
September 28th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
Mistabrown Says:
September 28th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
Jhill, you cant be serious! You are approaching Preist/Oakgln status with that lunacy!
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LOL!
I’ll be that before I concede ANYTHING to the cowgirls!
I can’t stand that team, man!
Tell me Jerry Jones isn’t Al Davis with more $!
September 28th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
I’d agree with Zorn being the first to get fired, if it’s not Cable, but Zorn is NOT a guy I would want to see coaching our team.
September 28th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
Plunkethead, you do realize Gruden hasn’t been here since 2002, don’t you? You do realize that Jon Gruden is not directly or indirectly involved with one single person on our roster, our coaching staff, or in the organization, on any level, don’t you? Oh, wait, scratch that. Janikowski. That’s it. And are you going to tell me that Jano is ruining this team? Gruden didn’t draft him, anyway. Davis did. Do you honestly believe that it’s Gruden’s fault we suck? Are you that crazy? I have to know.
September 28th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
jhill, dammit, count me in………….
September 28th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
It got pretty quite in here while it looked like the Raiders might win a few games but the trolls are back and in heat like starving piranha with blood in the water.
All jacked up on hateraid and hot pockets, safe and sound in moms basement.
September 28th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
Chances are Hanson is still getting paid because Cable overreacted about something and knocked him out. This being said you can’t just fire Hanson for that because it would be wrongful dismissal and he would get paid anyway.
September 28th, 2009 at 5:43 pm
Are you serious 405?
You really don’t see a problem with the DBs having more confidence in the suspended guy than the guys on the sideline?
September 28th, 2009 at 5:43 pm
Jhill post 14…
that is the only way 4me 2
September 28th, 2009 at 5:46 pm
I really felt good about Cable and what he was doing with the team. I will not throw in the towel quite yet. However, if his play calling does not improve and he cannot find a way to get the best out of his players and we end the season with less than seven or 8 wins, I say we try and bring Gruden back, who is probably licking his chops for another go around at resurrecting the same franchise he brought back from the ashes a decade ago. .. that is if he doesn’t land Notre dame, he would definitely be itching to get back into the NFL and make something of this young talented Raiders team who will have another full year of experience under them.
if it is true that Hanson is being sought by players.. then I would really want to question what the whole Jawgate incident was about and why is Hanson still receiving checks as an assistant. It really makes me wonder if something is wrong. Who knows, for all we know, Hanson could very well be a defensive Wiz in the making. If Cable cannot get it done, as much as I favored Cable.. well someone mentioned to get Hanson in a management position and have him hire Gruden or another coach that is available.
We can have the offensive Wizardry of Gruden bringing back the west coast with some occasional downfield strikes and keep the hybrid of ZBS and power running. Bush is the new Wheatley, and as long as McFadden does not fumble the new Kaufman/Garner.
September 28th, 2009 at 5:46 pm
Jerry Jones is a lot of things..but he’s not quite Davis.
Jones is like Davis in that he is the dominant force on personnell decisions and ignores football IQ, chemistry and all that.
But I don’t think Jerry Jones meddles in game preparation and planning like Davis does. also, Jerry Jones has other interests outside of the Cowboys. He doesn’t have time to sit around dreaming up B.S schemes to foist upon the coaches.
Jerry was never a coach so his knowledge on the X’s and O’s would be limited.
I wish Davis would either leave the game planning or the personnell alone.. Davis! Just pick one to screw up
September 28th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
maddenraider, you forgot Lechler
September 28th, 2009 at 5:50 pm
Nnamdi21 you’re by far one of the dumbest people I’ve ever seen have the gall to comment in any blog, and I don’t know why you keep linking to that stupid site. Davis football. Ha ha. You don’t even know anything about football.
September 28th, 2009 at 5:50 pm
Perhaps Cable should take a page out of Kiffin’s book and practice a play until they get it right!
September 28th, 2009 at 5:50 pm
Hopefully the Napa DA is a Raiders’ Fan and will file charges to get Cable arrested…it is our only hope.
September 28th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
Jhill,
Cowbiy fans are mad @ Romo because he cant them into the SB.
Raider fans are ppissed @ Russell because he cant execute a screen pass or comprehend 100% of the playbook and he weighs 280lbs.
U see the difference right ?
September 28th, 2009 at 5:52 pm
Now watch the Cowboy playcalling.
September 28th, 2009 at 5:52 pm
“Jaworski” Nice way to warm up your offense with a short throw
Freekn hell we live in here in Oakland
September 28th, 2009 at 5:53 pm
More short throws by the Cowboys
September 28th, 2009 at 5:53 pm
Cable is an idiot when it comes ot play calling
September 28th, 2009 at 5:55 pm
Another 1st round bust…Tyler Brayton in the starting lineup
September 28th, 2009 at 5:56 pm
You guys act like JaMeatball can make “easy” or “short” throws….give me a FK’n break….yawl watching the games ?
Cable is in a no win situation calling plays for his half wit Qb!
September 28th, 2009 at 5:58 pm
Mistabrown Says:
September 28th, 2009 at 5:56 pm
You guys act like JaMeatball can make “easy” or “short” throws….give me a FK’n break….yawl watching the games ?
Cable is in a no win situation calling plays for his half wit Qb!
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Russell is a lot of things…but the playcalling is garbage man.
September 28th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
Mistabrown,
Stop defending Tom Cable!
September 28th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
WOW no good 40 yrd FG by cowboys
September 28th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
Agreed mista and Dakota, DHB is gonna take a lot of work I think though.
September 28th, 2009 at 6:00 pm
Cable: Russell passed for 1 yard in the secopnd half! We are on the brink of something special boys! Maybe 50 yards passing in the second half against the Texans! Keep the faith and keep on working!
September 28th, 2009 at 6:01 pm
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September 28th, 2009 at 6:01 pm
Im out Nation…talk tomorrow
September 28th, 2009 at 6:02 pm
WR screen to Steve Smith…..wow
September 28th, 2009 at 6:02 pm
Im not defending Cable I hope the police arrest him.
Having said that, I cant even hold him responsible for play calling with Russell as his Qb. They have 8/9 in the box stuffing the run and Russell cant throw the ball….SO WHAT THE FK do we call ?
September 28th, 2009 at 6:02 pm
I am making a list of the McFadden doubters…once we have an NFL quality HC and an o-line that isn’t patched together and a QB that can make basic high school throws you’ll see what McFadden can do!!!!!
September 28th, 2009 at 6:04 pm
SnB we can have a debate anytime but if you are going to pull the browns fan sh|t out of your a$$ or call me out of my name I will ignore you.
FYI…following Oakglen around here will get you nowhere fast!
U dig ?
September 28th, 2009 at 6:05 pm
the raiders r coming my way in 2 weeks im going to the giants game that should be alot of fun any predictions for that game what like 35-0 god help us
September 28th, 2009 at 6:05 pm
Im with Dakota on DMAC.
I’ll take it 1 step futher and give DHB a pass. C’mon the guy has played 3 NFL games in his life with a half wit “bonafide” Q. He sure dont look good but geez give the guy a chance!
September 28th, 2009 at 6:06 pm
SnB, he’s hit as soon as he recieves it, doesn’t have enough time to lock it in, blame O-line, please!
September 28th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
Dakota Says:
September 28th, 2009 at 6:02 pm
I am making a list of the McFadden doubters…once we have an NFL quality HC and an o-line that isn’t patched together and a QB that can make basic high school throws you’ll see what McFadden can do!!!!!
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Put your list together and put my name on it.
This guy fumbles the ball A LOT.
September 28th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
Mistabrown,
It won’t matter much. My enthusiasm for this team was sapped after last week. If they get smashed this weekend, I am done for the year.
I’ll watch the Giants/Eagles/49ers/Vikings/jets and simply follow the Raider score on the news crawl.
September 28th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
For those that didn’t read the article all the way, Hanson’s lawyer is the one reporting that the DBs are coming to see him, and somehow got him a Raiders laptop. If it was coming from anyone but Hanson or his lawyer, it would say it might be true.
September 28th, 2009 at 6:11 pm
Fargas had fumble problems when he was young and look how good he turned out!
lmao
Seriously though fumbling can be corrected ask Tiki but how do you correct what we have behind center ?
September 28th, 2009 at 6:11 pm
You’re right, Galactic Gus. Gruden is responsible for our best and most consistent player. Thanks for the reminder.
September 28th, 2009 at 6:11 pm
Dakota Says:
September 28th, 2009 at 6:02 pm
I am making a list of the McFadden doubters…once we have an NFL quality HC and an o-line that isn’t patched together and a QB that can make basic high school throws you’ll see what McFadden can do!!!!!
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You will NEVER see an NFL HC. You know that.
As for the QB…we haven’t had a true dominant QB since Stabler and Plunkett…yeah, I left Gannon out..
September 28th, 2009 at 6:12 pm
Mistabrown Says:
September 28th, 2009 at 6:11 pm
Fargas had fumble problems when he was young and look how good he turned out!
lmao
Seriously though fumbling can be corrected ask Tiki but how do you correct what we have behind center ?
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LOL….now its you that is Mr. Optimist.
DMAC is a bust
September 28th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
LOL,
You guys are killing me!
DMac and DHB get a pass until we get “an NFL quality HC and an o-line that isn’t patched together” ?!?!?!?
And you expect the QB to perform with that same bunk arse coach and Oline? An a WR who has 3 games under his belt?
“he don’t look good, but give the guy a chance” ????
Who? the QB?
Why are we giving ANYONE a pass? They ALL need to be held to the same standard!
4 killer fumbles in 3 games should not get a pass. Now I’m not saying cut DMac or bench him, but my goodness!
September 28th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
SnB,
You have been falsely calling me a Browns fan and now you just told this blog you are done watching the Raiders if they lose on Sunday….AND you will watch other teams?
YOU POS hypocrite GTFO of my face you spineless jacka$$!!!!
“It won’t matter much. My enthusiasm for this team was sapped after last week. If they get smashed this weekend, I am done for the year.
I’ll watch the Giants/Eagles/49ers/Vikings/jets and simply follow the Raider score on the news crawl”
September 28th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
Amen JHill….these guys think that we are a carbon copy of the Vikings…just insert a QB…
Puhleezzzze We ain’t got jack right now.
The QB has horrible mechanics
The RB (DMAC) can’t hold the ball and has no explosion
The WR is a decoy
LOL
September 28th, 2009 at 6:19 pm
SnB go watch the 49ers you dont even have to wait for a loss to Houston. Ok, you have my permission, a$$wipe!
What a despicable kunt you are SnB!
September 28th, 2009 at 6:19 pm
Mista,
Yes I do understand the Romo boos vs the JRuss boos.
But I’m saying that I wouldn’t want Romo or Delhommes problems on our team any more than Russell. So what they would complete 10 more passes a game. They would turn the ball over just as much, and choke in crunch time just like they do now on teams with more talent.
JRuss sucks, but so does about 90% of the QBs in the league.
September 28th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
Jhill, if you want to call DHB a bust after 3 games thats your choice. I wont join you on that one!
September 28th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
Mistabrown,
I am just being honest. I am still a fan and all. But I don’t live in Oakland so I have to go to a Direct TV location to watch the games and its a little out of the way…not to mention overpriced beer etc….
I’ll just go to my favorite spot and watch the local game. That’s all I am saying.
I am not saying I won’t hope the Raiders get better…but I am not going out of my way to watch a team that will be entering another phase of deep restructuring should they lose next week.
September 28th, 2009 at 6:21 pm
Randy Hanson was a defensive assistant and the db`s ask Willie Brown for advise and besides the usatoday reports that Hanson was demoted to film breakdown and that he only works in the film room.
September 28th, 2009 at 6:21 pm
darren mcfumble needs to take a seat and give the ball to Bush
September 28th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
Mistabrown,
“Language” good grief
September 28th, 2009 at 6:23 pm
Mistabrown,
Since you’ve chosen the tenor for tonight. Answer me this. All you do is bash the Raiders day and night. Bash the team, the QB, everything.
What fun is that? Day after Day. When it gets to that point you need to find something else to do
September 28th, 2009 at 6:24 pm
and watching Bruce Gradkowski or Charlie Frye does not make for an entertaining weekend
September 28th, 2009 at 6:26 pm
SnB, you dont exist you are panty waste!
G’bye
September 28th, 2009 at 6:26 pm
Mistabrown Says:
September 28th, 2009 at 6:26 pm
SnB, you dont exist you are panty waste!
G’bye
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LOL
September 28th, 2009 at 6:28 pm
Mistabrown,
What do you think of Brett Ratliff?
September 28th, 2009 at 6:29 pm
Gradkowski is better than Russell.
I liked this post so much I am repeating it…
1. Run Michael Bush 20+ times
2. Stop throwing deep with Russell…he can’t do it
3. Bench HEyward-Bey…what good is he right now
4. Play JLH and Schilens…get some freekn familiarity
5. Turn playcalling over to Tollner
6. Tell Davis to leave John marshall alone
September 28th, 2009 at 6:29 pm
Jhill,
I can give DMAC a pass for 2 reasons.
1- DMAC will correct his fumble probs by the time JaMeatball is still sporting a 20% passer rating.
2- Fargas is next in line if DMAC gets demoted.
The end.
September 28th, 2009 at 6:32 pm
Jhill,
I can give Russell a pass for 2 reasons.
1- Russell will correct his accuracy probs by the time Heyward-Fast is on the bench.
2- Frye is next in line if Russell gets demoted.
The end.
September 28th, 2009 at 6:34 pm
Cable is gone, the team is a shambles. I love my Raiders. WTF is going on, who’s writing this script? AD, Herron, or Monday night RAW? I still don’t get this???
September 28th, 2009 at 6:34 pm
Mistabrown Says:
September 28th, 2009 at 6:40 pm
SnB you dont get to hand out passes you’re a 49er fan.
Numnuts, get lost!
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LOL
September 28th, 2009 at 6:35 pm
bill cowher like to run run run. al woukld neva hire him . it would be funny if raiders hire gruden. least we know the team will be tough and russell will get dumped. and why would they bench dhb? it would defeat the point of drafting him.. hes gotta play to get better. he just needs to not start. play slot sum sh t.
September 28th, 2009 at 6:36 pm
I dont bash the Raiders. I go easy on AL. I been hard on Russell, he deserves it! Im not taking a piss on DHB after 3 games like you are. I said our safeties are a pleasant surprise….WTF man do you read ? Why am I taking to SnB your a 49er fan!
I been applauding the defense while you goons have rather make excuses for Russell. Now that Russell has knocked the wind out of them it wont be pretty.
September 28th, 2009 at 6:40 pm
SnB you dont get to hand out passes you’re a 49er fan.
Numnuts, get lost!
September 28th, 2009 at 6:44 pm
Let me ask you this …
Was the doughnut Dallas or Carolina put up any “prettier” than the doughnut we put up in the 1st qtr?
September 28th, 2009 at 6:44 pm
SnB,
I’m a season ticket holder since the team returned to Oakland. And here you are following Oakglens lead calling me a Browns fan and now you’re going to follow the 49ers?
Are you in your right mind my friend ?
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 28th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
Mistabrown,
It won’t matter much. My enthusiasm for this team was sapped after last week. If they get smashed this weekend, I am done for the year.
I’ll watch the Giants/Eagles/49ers/Vikings/jets and simply follow the Raider score on the news crawl.
September 28th, 2009 at 6:46 pm
Once again I see guys on here fussing like little girls back and forth.
Look fellas! The reality is the Raiders are not a good team right now. From the top front office down to the water boy.
Our formations are out of date. Al does try to run the show. Cable was off the chain to strike another coach and we make average teams look great.
So stop making racial comments at Russel. He is not the only one blowing it. Look back at the games missed tackles, fumbles, dropped passes, players falling on the ground out of position.
Grow up and accept it like a man and stop crying this is just not a good football team.
September 28th, 2009 at 6:53 pm
alisgod Says:
September 28th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
Jeez,
for crying out loud you guys are a bunch of wussies. 2 weeks ago you are all on the bandwagon. last week you enjoyed a win and most of you were on here waiting for us to spank the Donkeys. I heard 31-13 predicted on here. They dropped an egg and now all of you are frickin crying for your mothers. The season is frickin 3 weeks old. We got some bad breaks to be honest. That would have been pass interference had that play involved a raider dback and you know it. The first safety couldn’t make the play because Jabustus put it only to where a 6-2 vs 5-11 would battle a jump ball. Unfortunately he got pushed and no call was made. a couple of breaks here and there and the game would have been much closer. You got a bunch of young guys on our team that will have to learn to be smart with the football and that schytt takes time. This is the first time in years we had a good offseason and making the right personel moves (most of it)
You bunch of whiners should really go root for the Niners. They are winning and their bandwagon still got seats left for you. I bet after we win against Houston (if Chaz plays), you are all back on the stupid wagon.
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alisgod,
you gotta point there alisgod but im tryin to agree with you but at the same time its hard. You gotta understand where some of these fans are coming from. That opening night against the chargers we played TREMENDOUSLY, the previous openers we all lost and the previous two openin day monday night games we got blown out. So when we came out with what should’ve won a lot of fans are goin to be optimistic because of the way we played when we havent played like this before for the past 6 years.When we beat the chiefs it was an off day but when we lost to the donkeys raider fans are sayin “here we go again” because statistically when we satrt 1-2, we don’t end up well. Also because a lot of us are tired. Tired of jamarcus inacurracy, lack of heart passion, lack of remorse, al davis meddling, our run d gettin blown up again(it wasnt really there fault), and after the game lookin like another season of futility. I personally think this can be a deep playoff team if we have better schemes,playcalling, more heart and aggression and ruthlessness (which we were known for), better packages, and al letting the coaches coach and letting them do their way. I can understand how some of them feel but you got some good points and i agree with you on some stuff but who knows? its a long time maybe this is a different raider team than the ones for the past 6 years and they turn it around and i hope they do because i believe in the raiders no matter whether we win or we lose, if we get 16-0 or 0-16 it don’t matter the silver in black is in my blood and id love them till the day i die no matter what the results.
September 28th, 2009 at 6:59 pm
Roy Williams looks slow, Romo sucks, Fans are BOOING the girls
September 28th, 2009 at 7:01 pm
Romo – 3 ints last week and zero points in the first half.
Is that booing I here Mista?
SB my arse They are booing b/c they know garbage when they see it and Romo is an overhyped nobody, just like most of the QBs in the league, including ours.
September 28th, 2009 at 7:03 pm
Mistabrown Says:
September 28th, 2009 at 6:44 pm
SnB,
I’m a season ticket holder since the team returned to Oakland. And here you are following Oakglens lead calling me a Browns fan and now you’re going to follow the 49ers?
Are you in your right mind my friend ?
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 28th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
Mistabrown,
It won’t matter much. My enthusiasm for this team was sapped after last week. If they get smashed this weekend, I am done for the year.
I’ll watch the Giants/Eagles/49ers/Vikings/jets and simply follow the Raider score on the news crawl.
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gotta roll with mistabrown here snb. Yeah you are probably mad at the raiders right now because of our horrible start and how we benn losin for 6 years but man if they lose you aint gonna watch them no more. and here you are dissin mistabrown and accusin him of bein a browns fan because his name because hes got “brown” in his name and you just assume hes a browns fan. Damn i sorta lost some respect from you and it shows what kind i raider fan you really are.
September 28th, 2009 at 7:03 pm
Raiders win next week
September 28th, 2009 at 7:10 pm
Tazz, just to be fair and honest. I dont think SnB said Im a Browns fan because of my name. I said in Feb/2008 the Browns should pretty good in 2009. Oakglen took that and ran, started calling me a Browns fan and SnB followed Oakglen down an idiotic path.
September 28th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
Here’s a thought …
If Belechik can put Tom Terrific on the shelf because of an ineffective passing game, I wonder if Cable will take a clue?
The Pats went with 2 TEs and pounded the ball all game. Vertical shotgun offense was nowhere to be found.
Cmon Cable, just make a F’ing adjustment.
September 28th, 2009 at 7:18 pm
Jhill, you are stuck on the Cowboys somethin awful man! Oakglen should call you a Cowboys fan!
September 28th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
Cable will allow AL to cut off his testicles before he yanks JaMeatloaf out of the lineup, get real!
September 28th, 2009 at 7:23 pm
Felix Jones seems to me a better runner than DMC.
September 28th, 2009 at 7:26 pm
can anyone smell a your fired for cause coming on cable will be another scapegoat that will not get paid for being the main attraction in a sideshow
this is getting pathetic im so tired of this shyt and all i will do is watch every game for the rest of my life like an idiot from this point on untill i notice a change i will not support this organization financialy but i will still and still do hate all bandwagoners.
like in los angeles were all of a sudden theres a plethera of charger fans makes me want to puke and i know its al davis fault but when things turn around soooome daaaay we will all be able to spot the turncoats and go upside their jaw. lol
September 28th, 2009 at 7:27 pm
Tazz,
I hear you man and well said. I just get so frustrated with these fans who claims to be hard core Raider fans and at the earliest sign of trouble they start jumping ship. How diff are they from the very same players that they mock? We are a better team in 2009 but we are not there yet. I thought we needed 2010 but Seymour kinda push my schedule up.
Cable’s job is one of the hardest job next to the HC of the lions. Al’s strength is his weakness and dealing with his structure has got to be tough. I accept that reality and that is why I have believed in Cable since the day he took over. He told us all that they are close last year and they did turn that ship around.
Right now, Jabustus (yes I call him that cuz its funny) has his best receiver hurt and best lineman hurt. Just be a little more patient and see if JR is better once he gets chaz back. Think about it, all Chaz has to do is catch a few balls and they have to back off the doubling of Miller. Then that creates openings for the run.
Lastly, I think Cable should give up his play calling. He has not done a good job of it and I think he is a better HC if he gives up the playcalling.
September 28th, 2009 at 7:30 pm
Who gives a ratt’s a$$ about Hanson other than the media and some of you fools. If they arrest Cable then so be it. Until then I am looking forward to the Houston Match up. They dont scheme as much as Denver and We will be fine playing them heads up.
Where are all the doubters of Mike Mitchell? I am calling all your dumba$$es out!
September 28th, 2009 at 7:34 pm
last time we won a superbowl was with a mexican qb named plunket, looked at mark sanchez right now ( maybe we should have drafted him instead).. hes tearing it up, in his first year, sadly to say, russell is not cutting it right now, don’t get me wrong I am waiting and hoping russel is the future of our franchise, but this is a win now league, we will see how this turns out whether or not Jamarcus is a bust or not soon enough.
September 28th, 2009 at 7:36 pm
Cowgirls need to trade for TO as we need to trade for Kolb or Mcnabb it will be a win suitation for everyone. Btw JR sucks
September 28th, 2009 at 7:42 pm
alisgod Says:
September 28th, 2009 at 7:27 pm
Tazz,
I hear you man and well said. I just get so frustrated with these fans who claims to be hard core Raider fans and at the earliest sign of trouble they start jumping ship. How diff are they from the very same players that they mock? We are a better team in 2009 but we are not there yet. I thought we needed 2010 but Seymour kinda push my schedule up.
Cable’s job is one of the hardest job next to the HC of the lions. Al’s strength is his weakness and dealing with his structure has got to be tough. I accept that reality and that is why I have believed in Cable since the day he took over. He told us all that they are close last year and they did turn that ship around.
Right now, Jabustus (yes I call him that cuz its funny) has his best receiver hurt and best lineman hurt. Just be a little more patient and see if JR is better once he gets chaz back. Think about it, all Chaz has to do is catch a few balls and they have to back off the doubling of Miller. Then that creates openings for the run.
Lastly, I think Cable should give up his play calling. He has not done a good job of it and I think he is a better HC if he gives up the playcalling.
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thanks bro
good points but jamarcus been so dissapointing and hes sort of at fault and so are his receivers. Yea you right it will change when chaz comes back, less double team of miller, opening of the run right on.Yeah theres a lot of fans like that and there on every single team but some of the fans for the raiders i feel for because some gotta poin and some just jump the ship. Yeah agree with you mitchell is good and hes gonna prove his doubters wrong. I also think cable will become a better hc if someone lese calls the plays because he hasn’t been doing good at all in that category.
September 28th, 2009 at 7:46 pm
Tazz,
On Monday nite vs SD, we were running the ball in the first half and I hardly saw any playaction involved. I hate ratface but that’s what Ratshanahan would do and why he is an awesome playcaller.
Jabustus has nver been accurate at all the LSU highlights I watched and the games I have watched him as a Raiders. He needs big receivers that go and fight for his balls. Dwayne Bowe was his go to guy at LSU. Chaz and Miller are his go to guys here. They are all big boys that can go get the ball. We are a young team and Cable must let the D win games for us and not let the O put us in the hole with turnovers. Cable has to be smart with that.
As much as I hate to admit it but Singletary has done a great job of not allowing his offense/shaun hill lose the game for him.
September 28th, 2009 at 7:47 pm
Just a comment on Randy Hanson, the reason the DB’s are reaching out to him is his ability to break dwn film for them, or what they call cutups. Hanson was outstanding in prescouting opponents. Giving and preparing film for players to study. Hanson is extremely detailed an thorough. Our DB’s led by Nnamdi are voracious film students and most of what they got was form Hanson.
So my guess is they needed his his cutups for film study. This opponenet we’re playing next is good and every little bit helps. That TE they have is outstanding not to mention the WR.
Also it has been said that Hanson is a maniacal student of the game and probably knows more than most HC’s it’s his personality tha holds him back. But interms of the game of X’s and O’s there are few better. The little nuances of an opponents offense or defense the guy will find them and that’s where hegets into the coaches faces and becomes just a general pain in the ass because he knows tooooo much.
You might compare him to Bill Belichik or Tom Coughlin and I know tht sounds crazy but I’ve herd peoople refer to the guy as a genius. Seriously!!
September 28th, 2009 at 7:48 pm
Yup Felix jones is better than mcfadden he is tearing it up uhm wait he is uhm hurt…
September 28th, 2009 at 7:48 pm
Agreed again Tazz on the weapons.
Frankly, i would always put McFadden and Bush on the field at the same time and split McFadden out to the slot or in the back and just keep teams off their heel. With Jabustus having his issues, we need to get him in rythm and even Miller said that today.
September 28th, 2009 at 7:49 pm
# silvernblack209 Says:
September 28th, 2009 at 7:34 pm
last time we won a superbowl was with a mexican qb named plunket, looked at mark sanchez right now ( maybe we should have drafted him instead).. hes tearing it up, in his first year, sadly to say, russell is not cutting it right now, don’t get me wrong I am waiting and hoping russel is the future of our franchise, but this is a win now league, we will see how this turns out whether or not Jamarcus is a bust or not soon enough.
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good point 209, I was thinking the same thing. wouldn’t it be great for Raider Nation, with a large hispanic fanbase, to have drafted a Mexican American Qb such as Sanchez. Mexican Americans are making their presence known in the NFL with players that are not kickers.
for now, we just have to hope Jrock turns the corner very soon. Who knows if Sanchez would have experienced the same success in the Raiders current system.
Lets hope for a Win against Houston. Last year, was the first time we beat them and perhaps the memory of that will be momentous in turning it around this season.
September 28th, 2009 at 7:50 pm
all of yall on the blog we have SO MANY WEAPONS ON THIS TEAM its freekin crazy. This time around though, the hec don’t know how to use it and thats why we are strugglin.
September 28th, 2009 at 7:51 pm
Being a proud Mexican American, I am rooting for Sanchez and the Jets to win the AFC east over the Pats.
Of course, I won’t be rooting for them when they play the Raiders.
September 28th, 2009 at 7:57 pm
Lol there is no use unless we change our style n become a smash mouth football running on all downs meaning we run 60 % of our snaps, we have no qb no wrs no solid pass blockers, solution run the ball n play good defense, how does that sound at least I trust this scheme than JR
September 28th, 2009 at 7:57 pm
I don’t care abt Mexican black white or alien QB, just get someone who can solidify the position.
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Exactly.
And Sanchez was gone before we picked. Wasn’t even an option.
September 28th, 2009 at 7:58 pm
Raiders4eve,
Across the bay they use your scheme and you know what it actually works!!!
September 28th, 2009 at 7:59 pm
I think it is safe to say that the Raiders probably has the highest following of Hispanics of all the 32 teams in the league.
September 28th, 2009 at 8:00 pm
I don’t care abt Mexican black white or alien QB, just get someone who can solidify the position. Draft Coy McCoy
September 28th, 2009 at 8:04 pm
TazZraider, I have to agree with you the HC is struggling simplifying his game plan to keep it simple andfocus on what will win. For him tp ask Russell to throw out of the endzone when he has been stuggling like crazy was in a word CRAZY. He’s trying to be to cut,we have a 250lbs. monster back in Bush who barely touches the ball. DMC is trying to hit homeruns every carry. Russell is trying to force the ball to DHB and eveybody is pressing so hard to get going that nothing is working.
We are simply very young and inexpeienced to try to be something we’re not ready to be. Simplify the game plan and do a few things very well and biuld off those and IMO it starts with MBush at feature back and biuld around that.
September 28th, 2009 at 8:06 pm
Since Al would never man up n take his losses on JR, shouldn’t at least he give up on vertical passing from the 80s n allows to hit the pile with heavy load of Bush n DMC, isn’t B Jacobs n Bradshow tearing it up, we could do the same thing.
September 28th, 2009 at 8:12 pm
Was simple vanilla defense the reason that Denver consistently ran the ball for 5+ yards on first down with basic running plays? I don’t know what the problem was, but the defense didn’t pick up the offense by stopping the other team and getting the ball back to give the offense opportunities, and the offense didn’t pick up the defense by sustaining drives and giving the defense time to regroup. Russel played very poorly, but so did the rest of the team.
September 28th, 2009 at 8:12 pm
I think Cowboys will lose this season they r missing a playmaker just like we do oh wait even if we had one we don’t have Tony Romo
September 28th, 2009 at 8:15 pm
test
September 28th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
If this case goes to trial it probably won’t be till after the season. The wheels of justice turn very slowly.
September 28th, 2009 at 8:23 pm
I know this will be met with rage and ire but to give up on Russell at thispoint isdown right retarded. He is struggling and he is no where near what I expect him to eventually be. But this is normal for a young QB. His problems amplified by the fact that he doesn’t have an experienced WR to rely on in difficult situatins. If he had a A Boldin and CJ or Calvin Johnson or even our own Chaz Schilens. He would at least hae someone experienced enough to provide him with a consistent target. Cable says his imrvement has been extreme (why else would he make call like the endzone throw) andhis confidence in him in diffifcult situations is very evident. When they get consistent reliable play around him (running game) and sure handed great playersmaking plays(not fumbling) he will get much better.
I’ve said it many times and I still believe it even more now. By midseason this passing game will start to gel. We’re 3 games in with 5 to go.
September 28th, 2009 at 8:27 pm
I don’t know why the media hates Romo, dude is smart can scramble plays similar to McNAbb who also chokes in December, I will JR for any starting QB in this league now including bucs Josh Johnson, JR is a joke
September 28th, 2009 at 8:29 pm
Priest your “inside” information is so riveting I can hardly contain myself…please give us more, without you this blog would just be avg.
lol
September 28th, 2009 at 8:30 pm
I take that back trade JR for anyone except Delhome n his 20 mill guarantee
September 28th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
Let me say a few things here:
1. Where did you all hear about the DBs seeking advice from Hanson?
2. DMC fumbles should never be excused. He has absolutely killed momentum drives. (But I know this can be fixed – see Tiki). You can even argue that his fumbles have lost us games; you just don’t know how events would’ve transpired if he did not cough it up repeatedly in the most inopportune times.
3. A lot of you just don’t know jack. You want to fire the whole team? Cut everybody? Get back to reality! You have a young QB in his sophomore year, 2 rookie WRs and a TE thats completely bracketed out of the game. So expect struggles. Just hope that Schilens can get up to speed quick off injury and lives up to the hype.
4. The team (and the fans) have no choice but to stick it out with Russell all season. The backups won’t get it done – period! You ever seen Gradkowski and Frye lead a team to the promise land?
5. Cable has to call shorter routes and the WRs have to get open.
6. The LBs stink.
(Replace Green as soon as you can. This guy gets penalized every darn game).
September 28th, 2009 at 8:32 pm
Raiders4eve didnt you hear priest? This offense is going to be “unstoppable” by mid season when we start to gel!
September 28th, 2009 at 8:38 pm
And what exactly did Chris Johnson say on the radio?
(In all honesty, this “antiquated” system sure looked good Monday night vs the Chargers …maybe its just the players playing the game?)
And this is the 2nd/3rd week in a row I’ve heard Cable mumble about not making adjustments (on defense). Mine eyes are on YOU Marshall.
September 28th, 2009 at 8:38 pm
Priest is on it, Russell will make you all jump on the bandwagon and priest and I will be laughing…
September 28th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
Priest I would agree with u except I think u are an idealist in real life a person who sees the glass half full. Reality JR is the worst qb in this league, if Gradkowtzki starts he would never have 39.8 qb rating after three games, JR got his money n doesn’t care abt success for god sake if he at least showed some emotions I would say he is trying his best. I think this guy is partying drinking hella beers every night getting with the women n most probably laughing at Al Davis for his generousity.
Personally, I used to play soccer, I wasn’t the best but I was definitely in shape that’s how I measure a guy who loves the game vs a guy who doesn’t.
September 28th, 2009 at 8:41 pm
Cable can just make it so much easier on everyone, and that is what is disappointing. Where is that dynamic rookie TE we saw all pre season? Why not play to the QBs 1 strength and get another TE on the field? 2 TE set with Bush in the backfield. Get DMac 15-20 touches a game, with half of those coming to him as a receiver.
Make a F’ing adjustment!
September 28th, 2009 at 8:44 pm
SistaBrown, the antagonist who love to pontificate gloom and doom. No one said anything about “unstoppable” I said it would start to gel, big difference. Unstoppable IMO is 2 years away. All I’m talking about is a competent offense that has some direction. Hopefully by years end will have what you might term an explosive offense. Meaning from 5-10 plays per game over 15 yards. But that will come as the young WR’s stop taking their licks and start dishing some out.
DHB will be a beast by this time next year he and Murphy and Chaz will be a very difficult trio. But it has to stat with Cable running the football and I don’t mean once ina while he has to stick with it through thick and thin………..period. Right now he’s Sybil. Please understand and establish who you are…………period
Right now WE ARE A RUNNING TEAM……………….period
September 28th, 2009 at 8:47 pm
What you think and reality may be two differnt things………….but your opinion is duely noted.
We’ll talk again at midseason OK!
September 28th, 2009 at 8:47 pm
Wow on the excuses oh we r a young team with young offense n young wrs n young rbs n young minds lol, this is football, age doesn’t matter. Someone answer me this, why is JR not in shape? If he really cares abt football why is he hitting the gym instead of wasting all the offseason drinking partying n u knw what with all dat money. U guys r dreaming if u think JR will be a good qb, can someone tell me another QB out of shape, Culpepper was in shape this year that’s a person who I can compare him to JR physically.
September 28th, 2009 at 8:49 pm
In this league QB wins games, u either have a winner or a loser, we got a loser. The Bears was a good team having good defense, special teams n running game the year they went to the superbowl what they were missing was a QB, let me remember how fun was the Bears that year the only exciting thing was Devin Hester who scored tons of pts, my point is we don’t have a good defense or special teams to bail out a bad QB, u can have a good QB n bad defense n win but u can’t have a bad QB n win. Therefore, we will never win unless we change our QB or we get a real defense that’s my forever prediction
September 28th, 2009 at 8:50 pm
Priest you have used unstoppable repeatedly not tonight but many times. Yah DHB will be a beast! What gives you that impression his 1 catches this year ?
Why do you have to resort to name calling tj ? Am I that much under your skin or are you just a sensitive little man ?
Every year you make bold predictions about this guy or that guy being a beast, the law of averages have to be in your favor eventually right ?
September 28th, 2009 at 8:53 pm
We are not a running team. We are not a passing team. We are a rudderless ship. We cant impose our will on anybody. JaMeatloaf will never exploit 8/9 in the box and thats why the running game is stalled!
WAKEUP tj you been watching football for 40 years you cant be this dumb…take off your blinders and put the koolaid down..
September 28th, 2009 at 8:54 pm
Post it Sista, I’ve never used the term, ZMiller did.
September 28th, 2009 at 8:56 pm
When I saw the last article Title Cable said we on the brink of getting this thing going, I almost fell out my chair.
Next headline will read: Cable suspended 4 games for violating the League’s Substance Abuse policy.
Cable needs a piss test after making statements like that.
JaMarcus problem is he don’t care to study. Every time Brees leaves the field after a TD or TO or punt, he goes straight to the bench to look at the faxes from upstairs. Always looking for how the defense lined up and what went wrong or right. Our QB just goes over there, gives a teammate a dirty look and reaches for his beanie.
September 28th, 2009 at 8:57 pm
JR is similar to Ryan Leaf in stats only difference I think Leaf cared abt looking good while JR thinks it don’t matter how y’ll think, I making money y’ll making nothing, matter fact y’ll jsut jealous of me cuz I m young n I m ballIng, y’ll just haters. That’s what I think he believes, everytime he talks I feel he is disrespecting my intelligence. I m still waiting why is our QB fat out of shape if he cares abt being a winner?
September 28th, 2009 at 8:58 pm
# Mistabrown Says:
September 28th, 2009 at 7:10 pm
Tazz, just to be fair and honest. I dont think SnB said Im a Browns fan because of my name. I said in Feb/2008 the Browns should pretty good in 2009. Oakglen took that and ran, started calling me a Browns fan and SnB followed Oakglen down an idiotic path.
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What would POSSIBLY make any of you think this guy is a Raider fan?? He claims to go to games, but doesn’t know what happened on the field. Notice how he has not said ONE THING, about the game?? All he does is fight with other Raider fans and humiliate himself. + he glosses the Browns. Eff yourself brown fan. Don’t fall for his garbage.
September 28th, 2009 at 8:59 pm
They benched Brady Quinn mista browns fan. Your browns lost 34-3. Your Browns are 0-3. Your Browns suck dik just like you.
September 28th, 2009 at 9:03 pm
Priest if we are a running team why didnt we hang 200 yards and 2 td’s on KC on the ground alone?
Hmmmmmm ?
September 28th, 2009 at 9:04 pm
Priest,
I have to say I am just not seeing what you are seeing. The scheme is outdated man! It will not work consistently.
The talent is there in key spots, but it is just NOT being used right. 1st and goal from the 1 yd line, and we see back to back PA pass plays?
All these vertical routes out of the shotgun instead of 2 TE sets and smashmouth football?
Very little pressure on the QBs due to very little blitzing?
There are going to be some games where JR puts it together and looks the part. We’ve seen it before. But there will not be ANY QB that is puts a string of wins together running the bed and breakfast offense. It’s just not goin to happen.
Where are the quick slants? And I don’t mean 1 time per game?
Where are the WRs lined up on the same side running patterns off of each other?
Has there been ANYTHING from the WRs across the middle quickly to give them a chance to run after the catch?
That is why I am for benching Russell. If we get the big arm QB out of there, then MAYBE, just MAYBE we can see a realistic playbook!
September 28th, 2009 at 9:12 pm
Oakglen..
lmao
You are like a little kid that lost his blanket.
September 28th, 2009 at 9:14 pm
See you never talk about the game. How did the 2nd half begin mista browns fan??
September 28th, 2009 at 9:16 pm
Because Cable insists on running the I formation with Oneal, who is NOT healthy. Our most effective running plays have been out of the single back sets. Not even close. But we just can’t get a steady dose of it. We just keep mixing in the PA deep throw to prove a point. Just dumb!
September 28th, 2009 at 9:17 pm
Oakglen,
How do you even come in here after calling Russell a “bonafide” Qb. Stomping your feet and calling people names like a 10 yr old that forgot to take his ritalin ?
September 28th, 2009 at 9:19 pm
So WTF is Hackett doing while JR is sitting there on the bench?
Sometimes they will flash to the sidelines and we see Gradkowski, Frye, and Hackett right there on the bench with him. You guys are saying that is not the case normally, well I again say WTF is Hackett doing?
September 28th, 2009 at 9:23 pm
Why don’t you talk about the game Browns fan?? I asked you a simple question about the game and you are the one calling names. You can’t discuss the game can you?? You didn’t see the game did you?? No I didn’t think so. You saw the Browns game tho, didn’t you?? You are a lying POS. Always have been always will be. What happened with the coin flip mista browns fan?? Who called what??
September 28th, 2009 at 9:24 pm
Oakglen, you asked how the second half started and I told you.
lol….you’re a moron x 10000000
September 28th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
See, he can’t talk about the game. All he can talk about is buying chicken nachos. What a lying POS. Case closed. But how bout dat Brady Quinn mistabrowns fan!!!
September 28th, 2009 at 9:26 pm
Mistabrown Says:
September 28th, 2009 at 9:21 pm
Oakglen,
At 1:18 left in the 2nd quarter I head to the beer line. I also bought a hat because I didnt sit in my normal seats and the sun was killin me. The hat was 35.00.
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What was it a Cleveland Browns hat??
September 28th, 2009 at 9:29 pm
jhill, I completely agree about Oren O’Neal. He is NOT the same guy he was before he got hurt. Luke Lawton, the other FB, dropped an easy completion in the lst half, so he doesn’t seem to be much of an option.
September 28th, 2009 at 9:33 pm
We have the worst quarterback, the worst owner, and the worst coach in the league.
September 28th, 2009 at 9:33 pm
Oakglen, you ask a question and when you get the answer you call someone a lying POS….lmao
September 28th, 2009 at 9:35 pm
No I just never met someone leave their seats for 45 minutes in the middle of a game just to go buy a hat. I guess you couldn’t buy one after the game.
September 28th, 2009 at 9:37 pm
The ONE time we ran a reverse, it worked, didn’t it?
The ONE time we ran that fake dive pitch outside to DMac, it worked, right? Oh yeah, the time we ran it last year worked out pretty well last year too.
I wonder how a WR screen to JLH or Murphy would look?
September 28th, 2009 at 9:38 pm
I said I left my seat with 1:18 to go in the 2nd quarter. I was hoping to be back by kickoff….can U read ?
Imbecile!
September 28th, 2009 at 9:39 pm
Just give me ONE good reason why DMac AND Bush are not on the field at the same time, ALL the time?
Just ONE reason ?????
September 28th, 2009 at 9:39 pm
That’s limited thinking Oak …
Bush and DMac were on the field together for the first play of the SD game and it worked quite well. Send Dmac in motion to the slot or to the outside in a 2 TE set. Plenty of ways to use the both of them without Bush being a FB.
September 28th, 2009 at 9:40 pm
No Oak,
With us struggling so much on the O, they can easily put McFadden in the slot. On the game vs SD, that’s what they did on the first play. Now teams have to account for both of them.
September 28th, 2009 at 9:41 pm
Bush would have to be the FB and he does NOT want to play FB. He has made that clear, and you can’t blame him.
September 28th, 2009 at 9:42 pm
Well look at the bright side mista browns fan: at least you got a brand new shiny Cleveland Browns hat out of the deal!! roflmao
September 28th, 2009 at 9:42 pm
Thank you AIG. McFadden was flanked in the last game. They have been moving him around while Bush is on the field.
September 28th, 2009 at 9:49 pm
Is Plunkethead still blaming Jon Gruden for us losing yesterday? Or have you guys finally turned him in?
September 28th, 2009 at 9:54 pm
Idiot
September 28th, 2009 at 9:54 pm
Jhill I can’t disagree with post #203. The problem is you have to get the new guys up to speed as quickly as possible. You cannot rely on throwing those quick hitches over and over again. I think that is why we are seeing 9-10 guys up. Until Jamarcus can prove he can hit guys consistently down the field, those screens and short passes and runs are not going to be very effective.
September 28th, 2009 at 9:57 pm
McFadden was flanked ???
Como?
Bottom line is that Bush and McFadden should be on the field together. Figure out a way to get it done, especially since Cable spent all this time getting him ready as a WR.
Both Bush and McFadden have been solid blocking, so put them in motion, and them have them crack back. Bush should get about 20 carries a game, and DMac should get 10-15 touches with half of those coming on bubble screens, swing passes, and crossing patterns over the middle out of the slot.
September 28th, 2009 at 10:00 pm
JT Says:
JaWalrus
Is another QB bust brought to you by Al Davis football, in the lines of
Jay Schroeder
Jeff George
Mark Wilson
Kerry Collins
Aaron Brooks
The man cant spot talent at the QB, thats it, deal with it
Only time he has had succes is with non-Davis qbs
Gannon
Hostleter
Etc
JT Says:
The 3 amigos, the 3 busts
JaWalrus (fat and lost at sea)
McFumble (runs 3 yards and slips or fumbles)
Heyward-Gay
JT Says:
Al Davis & Herrera
may intimidate and shup up the players & coaches
but they cant intimidate the Raider Nation
Lets keep booing Rusell at the black hole
September 28th, 2009 at 10:03 pm
jhill Says:
September 28th, 2009 at 9:57 pm
McFadden was flanked ???
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they certainly have had him flanked a few times.
September 28th, 2009 at 10:03 pm
Oakglenn, on both of Russell’s INTs yesterday, they had deep coverage over the top. So how can they have possibly stacked the box on those plays and taken away the short field? There’s no such thing as a defense that takes away the short and long pass, at least not in today’s NFL. Maybe like the ‘85 Bears. Every defense today leaves a weakness in either the short or long pass game. Regardless of what they were putting in the box, they seemed to have coverage deep, which means they’re playing the pass, which means we should have have been calling short pass plays. Nothing has changed. You still have to crawl before you walk in the NFL passing game. You’ve got to succeed with the short passing game before you get a window to take a shot.
September 28th, 2009 at 10:06 pm
wheres this chris johnson interview on the raiders? I wanna hear it. But yea the raiders should run a 3-4 also, they have all the tools to do it. T kelly had his best years at de we have seymour, put warren in the middle with trevor scott coming off the edge like D.ware and merriman with the speed and rush ability along with t.howard coming off the edge rushing with his speed, brown, and kirk in the middle,our secondary speaks for itself. Yea the game has evolved and al needs to allow change. It reminds me of the mac vs. pc commercials, yea back in the day pc was this ish when this whole thing started but now technology has advanced and the pc is just old and slow no. Mac vs pc theres no competition. We’re the pc thats why we can’r compete on sundays.
September 28th, 2009 at 10:09 pm
Now we are seeing 9-10 man fronts?
I thought 8-9 was pretty funny.
Next thing you guys are going to tell me is that they are not even covering the WRs, LOL. Wait a minute, I think you just said that Oak with that 10 man front.
Too funny!
Fact of the matter is KC and Denver stopped us with a normal 7 man front. Dawkins, the SS, was in coverage all day.
8, 9, and 10 man fronts? LMFAO!
September 28th, 2009 at 10:09 pm
DMac, we are the PC. And the kool aid drinkers in here are the old nerd in the commercials.
September 28th, 2009 at 10:14 pm
The 2nd S is NOT playing up on the line. In the KC and Denver games, the SS was providing over the top help on Miller for the LB. Both Ss played back.
Oren ONeal is not making plays, and we are not doing a consistent job of blocking the 3-4 when we run out of the I formation.
September 28th, 2009 at 10:17 pm
I don’t have the Denver tape so I can’t comment. I can certainly go pull up the SD tape and go over where they had 9 guys up. I think at one point I counted 10 guys up. If you want me to find it I will. Obviously you don’t play that defense on every snap but they had a ton of guys up.
MR on the two INT’s Russell threw yesterday, I can break both those down pretty completely because they both happened right in front of me. As I said about the lst one, that was a CLASSIC Bobby Bowden Florida State call, where they air the ball out looking for either a big play or PI. If it doesn’t work it’s like a punt. The big mistake on that play was Russell threw into double coverage, and when DHB fell down, that was an easy play for the defense to make, and set up a fairly big return which was a problem.
On either the next INT or a deep incompletion to Murphy, Bailey the corner, popped Murphy 15 yards down the field. The entire play was a timing pattern and the ball was launched before Murphy had even made his break. When Bailey hit him, to the casual observer it looked like Russells pass was incredibly inaccurate. What happened was the WR was illegally chucked waay down field, and Russell remarked about it in the presser. Bottom line is rookie WR’s are not going to get calls against All Pro defenders. Ain’t gonna happen. You can’t cry about it, you just have to learn from it. If you weren’t watching Murphy get chucked off the route, Russell’s pass would have looked awful.
September 28th, 2009 at 10:18 pm
Jhill, justw wait and seee if I’m right or wrong. Those plays are there and they were therelast year and we won with them.
As for slants we run slants all the time, and I know for sure that Al Davis hates slants. but we run them. Problem is that the players we have at WR right now aren’t great at it.
But we MUST run the Football right now if we want some degree of consistency. Cable know this but he let’s himself be pressured away from it. Until he sticks with it we will struggle offensively………..period
September 28th, 2009 at 10:22 pm
Yeah, you might need to pull up that SD tape Oak.
1st play of the 2nd half, Williams blows up Morris and and stops DMac in the backfield. 7 man front, one of our guys got beat. SD just played much better in the 3rd qtr, and JRuss helped them a lot.
September 28th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
Priest,
You can spin it however you like. Bottom line_ This offense is Shell/Walsh Part II. Its Al Davis’s archaic philosophy and d-coordinators will eat it up every time. This is not an NFL scheme. Its only gonna get worse too. Russell can not beat teams and they know it. There will be a fluke every now and again, but at the end of the day this offense and team are going nowhere. When this team plays a decent D, it will be ugly. The Raiders couldnt do squat against KC then Philly comes in with a banged up o-line, a back up QB, a rookie backup at RB and WR and just lights them up. Thats all the evidence I need.
September 28th, 2009 at 10:31 pm
Do you guys realize what you are saying?
8 and 9 man fronts?
DHB, Murphy, and Miller are in every pattern, and Miller and DHB constantly have 2 guys around them.
Simple math guys!
September 28th, 2009 at 10:32 pm
Priest imma tell you right now this season is cookies. You can see it in the players eyes after the game, they no longer believe they can win and look of a team that is lost. the defense gave up after jamarcus’s second int/ macfaddens fumble. They have no heart and their spirits are easily broken. Look at how after the sd game they came out and played like ish and responded with this debacle. and Now the rats coming out threatining to send cable to the slammer, players speaking out against the scheme, the whole rich gannon ban… Smh theres a dark cloud over this organization and is stormin down sh.. ontop of our heads. If you’re a fan of any oakland sports team you don’t have to shoot yourself because these teams are already killin us themselves. I mean here we are three weks into the season and the coach still questions work ethic, and film study wtf? You get paid millions to play a kids game and you can’t look at film? I can’t stand watchin chick flicks wit my girl but I do jus for the pu**y, and i repeat pu**y, and you mean to tell me you can’t watch game film for 60 fn million dollars???!! smh. I tawked bad about gannon i’m sorry now cus he was right blow up everythang, with the bomb tied to al’s mouth.
September 28th, 2009 at 10:32 pm
If I were defending the Raiders I would have 9 guys up and make Jamarcus beat me. The late drive against KC I think he did it against a 2 deep. Jamming the box with defenders and making him hit the right guy is a great way to mess with him, and until he consistently can isolate and hit his outside receivers, he is going to be in trouble.
September 28th, 2009 at 10:33 pm
playcalling also suck when you have a struggling QB and are suppose tb be a running team why freaking start throwing out of your endzone?
September 28th, 2009 at 10:35 pm
jhill Says:
September 28th, 2009 at 10:31 pm
Do you guys realize what you are saying?
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If you send two or three guys in on a blitz, chances are you are going to have guys running down the field uncovered. That’s the problem with a blitzing defense.
September 28th, 2009 at 10:37 pm
Tony Bruno had a great line on Russell tonight….
“The worst part about Jamarcus Russell is he doesnt think he is playing bad, he really thinks hes playing well.”
September 28th, 2009 at 10:37 pm
I love the theory that every young player gets better some guys never get it they just stink . I thought DHB came from a pro-style O and he would just immediately come in and help, he has to show something this year although Jerry Rice wouldn’t look good with jruss.
September 28th, 2009 at 10:39 pm
The wheels are about to completely fall off this ride because Cable is GOING to get arrested. When that happens its all over but the shoutin.
September 28th, 2009 at 10:39 pm
If you were defending the Raiders?
WTF is that ?!?!!?
I hope the DCs out there are listening to you, and take the double off of Miller, and the over the top coverage off DHB and Murphy.
I think your defense just might be what the vertical offense is looking for.
Something tells me they will just stick with doubling Miller, and keep the over the top coverage. It’s been working to a tee so far. WRs are not open, and neither is the TE.
September 28th, 2009 at 10:43 pm
The point you are making is the WR’s are not open, or if they are, Russell is missing them. Once Russell starts hitting those singled up receivers, and he will, that defense is toast. Basically I am calling for a similar style of defense with 2 guys up in the box pass defending and the outside receivers singled up. That put another 7 guys up after Russell and the backs. That’s one of the defenses Ron Rivera was running.
September 28th, 2009 at 10:45 pm
Funny how on both picks DHB had 2 guys right near him. Single covg? Pffft. Dont know what the F your talkn about as per usual.
September 28th, 2009 at 10:47 pm
Yep, Russell has REALLY shown he can hit the open reciever.
September 28th, 2009 at 10:48 pm
I wonder if Herrera is blaming Rich Gannon for this loss, probably.
Yeah, I’ll miss Al, sure, but that’s life. I just wished he had groomed somebody, Amy?
September 28th, 2009 at 10:51 pm
So….
We have a QB that isn’t ready for the NFL yet. We’re starting a WR in Bey that has no business in the starting lineup. We’re starting a guy at RB that has butter fingers and falls down with a swipe at the ankles.
Cable. Grow a pair! You can do it. Stand up for yourself and the team. Tell Davis he’s loonie to think that Bey should be starting. Tell him Russell isn’t ready for the NFL yet. Tell him that Bush should be the starter and our bruiser out there. Come on, just look in the mirror and recite to yourself….”I think I can..I think I can..I think I can”
September 28th, 2009 at 10:54 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 28th, 2009 at 10:48 pm
I wonder if Herrera is blaming Rich Gannon for this loss, probably.
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You better believe he is. Herrera (read: “Davis”) made an issue out of nothing with Gannon when he should be worried about the product on the field. What a joke!
What did Gannon say, btw, that was any different from observations being made by thousands of fans anyway. Heck, Tollner wasn’t exactly praising Russell in his interview.
September 28th, 2009 at 11:10 pm
Oakglenn, the game’s free on NFL.com until tomorrow. New thing they’re doing to give back with the economy and everything for blacked out games. That’s how I watched it. Both INT’s were against deep coverage. I don’t know how many they had in the box either of those plays but one way or another they were in deep coverage. They were giving us the short pass, Oakglenn, as every team has done, every game, since Gruden left.
p.s., you may have to do some backdoor searching on google to find the game on nfl.com. It’s hard to find it on their website. Obviously, they’re trying to make it a pain in the ass, and the quality of the stream sucks. but you can see everything going on.
September 28th, 2009 at 11:11 pm
And what about Gannon taking the high road? He didn’t talk about the incident with Herrera and the Raiders once in the broadcast. Just called the game as if nothing happened, and as he always would. Gannon is all class. Can’t say the same about Herrera and Davis, two delusional, wannabe mobsters with their priorities a ssed backward.
September 28th, 2009 at 11:20 pm
I’m watching the game online and it is obvious t m tjat Russell sply got not help fom his recievers. That pass to ZMiller at the half was a perfect pass and he just never got his feet down in bounds. DMC ’s first catch he slips an the fumbles. The short check downs to could’ve gined mor yardage. The int’s he threw to DHB IMO both were DHB getting knocked off his route and th ball was actually thrown quite well both times. When DHB understands how to run routes so as to get open better that wont happen. he isstrong enough and big enough totake those bumps nd finish the route bu n bot plays he stumbles. As a result it’ an int. against Russell. If that’s Chaz Schilens I have to believe that on both occasions those are huge plays in Russells favor.
DMC essentially stops 3 productive drives with fumbles one he loses which was our final chance to get in the game. That is just youth being youthful.
They don’t call them growing pains for nothing. This team has a ton of potential but it probably wont be realized this year.
September 28th, 2009 at 11:21 pm
Kell, some kool aid drinkers were blaming Gruden for yesterday’s loss earlier this afternoon. Never mind blaming Gannon. It’s unreal. Used to think it was just a harmless hobby, getting behind the team and everything. These guys are honestly scaring me now, like the right wing birthers.
September 28th, 2009 at 11:24 pm
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September 28th, 2009 at 11:34 pm
Watching the first defensive series right now. They don’t even look awake. Nothing like the intense defense I saw in the previous two weeks. Could they have perhaps had a bad week of practice due to the Davis/Gannon distraction?
September 29th, 2009 at 12:16 am
It seems to me everyhing Russell did was undoneby way of penalty, fumble, bad route and lck of execution.
And yet all I ever heard from Rich Gannon was that Russell was struggling with his accuracy. What a crock!! he just didn’t force the ball down field into coverage he threw a ton of short passes that went no where. Screens, flat routes and circle routes that went no where.
In my mind the QB go zero help, we couldn’t run and we couldn’t get open. While Orton had a tremendous running game and experienced WR’s to help him out and all he did was throw a bunch of short passes that conistently picked up 1st downs (because didn’t or couldn’t make adjustments early). And that was your game.
We are just way too young and inexperienced to be consistent.
September 29th, 2009 at 12:18 am
I’m hoping for Russell to get injured at this point…to hell in a hand basket but hey,
September 29th, 2009 at 12:29 am
I want Russell as the QB for this team for the next 15 years just get him some help………………………period
But that’s just me….
Kyle Orton got 208 yards rushing Russel got 50, Kyle Orton got excellent playcalling and Russell got no execution and bunch of fumbles.
September 29th, 2009 at 12:46 am
Early in the game e forced a couple trying to make play, after that he took care of the ball. Most everythinh was short to intermediate. Which tells me they played a deep zone and took away the deep ball ball and we didn’t adjust to run the football. No one was open downfield and our backs can’t make anybody miss. If we screen to DC he trips and fumbles. MBush worked well on screens but then we’d have a penalty.
It as jus a very unfortunate game that you just lt go and move on. We definitly need much more from that running game to open up some throwing lanes.
Football is very simple if you execute Sunday we couldn’t execute and Denver had outstanding execution so you take your hat of to them but YOU have to get much better. We just didn’t show up……………period
September 29th, 2009 at 12:51 am
maybe they did not have Hanson’s imput in the week’s preparation for the Denver offense.
shoot, if he is a genius like some say, and I have read that somewhere before, I wonder how he would fare calling defensive plays.
We had some tough breaks on offense. We don’t turn the ball over after that goal line stand, the game could have been much closer.
I was always drinking the kool aid on the Cable bandwagon. If Cable is one day replaced by an experienced HC such as Gruden, I think if he really has passion for the Raiders as he claims, he will accept a demotion as offensive line/assistant head coach in the likes of Callahan’s position when he and Gruden ran the show. I don’t know who would hire him as head if he can’t turn the Raiders around, so he might as well take it.
I think if this Hanson guy knows what he is doing, he should be allowed to climb the ranks in the coaching staff after the Organization realizes its to their benefit and not allow one coach with too much power susceptible to an ego trip to deprive the Raiders of a good resource because of that power ego trip.
Let the fiery Gruden be the mediator if all coaching staff is retained and not overhauled.
of course, Gruden at this point is far fetched… but nothing is impossible.
September 29th, 2009 at 12:51 am
Priest, it was the fumbles, particularly that one late in the second quarter on our drive that otherwise looked good beforehand, those two forced deep balls by Russell that got picked, which I partly blame on playcalling, and our defense looking like they were half asleep. I’m guessing this can be in part attributed to vanilla scheme, but I’m not overlooking the distraction Davis created during the week by banning Gannon and turning a small thing into a fiasco, probably resulting in a week of poor practicing, and making the whole team sluggish. Same old shizzel, priest. Al Davis must retire, period.
September 29th, 2009 at 12:57 am
I think Cable is more of a players’ coach in contrast Gruden, while Gruden may be more of a Coach’s coach than Cable. A cohesive Coaching staff will set the example and tone for the players.
If Gruden comes in, We can revert to a hybrid west coast/ verticle game along with a hybrid power running and zbs.
For now, I am still pulling for Russell, the rest of the team, and the current coaching staff to turn this thing around in 09′ so we don’t have to even think of changes in the future.
September 29th, 2009 at 1:04 am
Gruden coming back would be awesome, GG. He only failed in Tampa because he was trying to stay true to their defensive culture while putting his offense second priority. He should have just lit a match to Dungy’s D and just built the offensive team he really wanted to build. Look at all of the drafting they did for defense, the fact that he kept Monte Kiffin. Tampa was a defensive team right up to his end, and he’s an offensive head coach with complete control. There were rumors at the end of last year that he wanted to come back, because he knew the Tampa thing was going downhill. But Al would just ruin it, anyway.
September 29th, 2009 at 2:41 am
In Tom Cable’s press conference he said that there was a 90-10 thing going on with the team where 90% of the team had mastered the playbook and concepts and 10% had not. Then he went on to say that Jamarcus was a part of the 10% that had not mastered the playbook. How can that be? JRuss has been in the system for 3 years, taken all the first team snaps fo 2 years, and started 20+ games. WTF?!?!?
JRuss is a extremely gifted athlete, and he is very young, but understanding the playbook and it’s concepts does not require years of experience, it does however require dedication, study, and commitment to your craft.
JRuss’s 38.7 QB Rating through the first 3 games of the season screams that the commitment is not there.
This is not good….
September 29th, 2009 at 3:56 am
Maybe if Al hired a stripper to read the playbook out loud for JaMarcus he could learn it?
September 29th, 2009 at 3:58 am
MR, you are right on about the play calling. That first interception changed the whole game. I am not saying we would have won, but it would have been much closer and perhaps provided the opportunity for late game heroics.
Instead of trying to throw a 20 yard strike, the offense was better off taking its chances on trying to bulldoze its way to the ten (with Bush)if not the first down so that we can either sustain the drive and keep our defense off the field, or give Lechler room so he can hit a booming 60 yarder. It was an unnecessary gamble. As much as DHB is hailed as a good blocking WR, he should be used to his strengths in those critical situations while the offense lines up in some kind of power formation or double Tight end set. If we throw on on 3rd down after gaining a sizable chunk of yards, meyers or miller on a short gainer could be higher percentage since Meyers proved to be a capable receiver and the defense does not just zero in on one tight end like they did in KC.
Mcfaddy has proved that he is better off being used on draws, screens, pitches, sweeps to the outside and being split out wide. Bush should be the starter and power back with Fargas as the hard hitting closer at the end of games.
September 29th, 2009 at 4:25 am
MR, the way Gruden was defending the Raiders on the NFL network on draft day, you know he is a Raider at heart despite of Ol’ Al shipping him away. If Gruden is an upgrade over Cable, then Cable as an offensive line/ assistant Head Coach is an upgrade over Callahan. Cable has that passion and is good with the players. The veterans took us to the superbowl that 2002 year, not Callahan. Callahan’s positive impact was being even keeled after the four game skid and not changing things much… which was to the detriment of the Super bowl game plan against Chucky. That was the ultimate mistake, forcing the throws on a pass happy offense instead of using Wheatley in the power running game and catch them off guard.
what do you think of the Hanson incident? Are the players reaching out to him? Is he being shoved aside as if he is a mad scientist who is really on to something and has the respect of the hard working players?
September 29th, 2009 at 4:48 am
sometimes, it can be as easy doing a pump fake on a double TE set and throwing em were they aint and having an understanding with all receivers that they may have to make a short dive on a comeback or out route for a completion and not even worry much about getting hit because they caught the ball going low on the ground. its easier than baseball, where they say, hit it where they ain’t, which is more dependent on chance than a two player communication and execution. I wish I had a video of the spectacular diving catches I make playing, qb to WR diving catches. I know its a whole different animal when you have 200 lbs ready to hit you, but thats where being on the same page with your qb comes in place…. so that if you do get hit, you have already secured the ball, and you might even get a late hit penalty or PI. but with the Raiders, that would be hard to come by, that is why you have to strive and go the EXTRA MILE!!!! to avoid the close calls and make this a game of feet, and not inches.
September 29th, 2009 at 6:06 am
This is where the Raiders usually pack it in and go on a long losing streak and go into the tank all the way.
I still believe there is hope. We just have to fight!
Yeah JaMarcus sucks, but he could get better.
Yeah McFumble coughed up the ball, but he can fix that.
Yeah the D got run over, but they were on the field all day and demoralized by the lack of production by the O.
ALL of these things COULD turn around quick with focus and effort! COME ON!!!!!!!
September 29th, 2009 at 6:07 am
Sit DHB and play Jivin’ JAVON WALKER! The dude has got to be able to get something going!
September 29th, 2009 at 6:28 am
Word is the league will pusnish the Raiders by forcing them to give Cable a contract extension.
September 29th, 2009 at 6:49 am
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