Gannon’s response
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, September 29th, 2009 at 9:28 am in Oakland Raiders.
Here’s how Rich Gannon responded to the Raiders saying he was no longer welcome in Alameda and their unsuccessful attempt to have him removed from the broadcast booth:
“Let me just say this. I tried to take the high road on that situation,” Gannon said on his Sirius Satellite Radio show. “It was unfortunate and it is what it is. I will say this: I really feel like the organization should care less about who is broadcasting the games and more about the product on the field and putting people in the stands. I think that’s the bottom line. I wish, certainly, the Raiders well. But it is frustrating to watch the team right now.”
What a grouch. The guy couldn’t find a single positive thing to say about that 23-3 loss to Denver.
Of course, if Gannon and CBS wish to avoid the whole situation in the future, they’ll make sure he doesn’t do any more Raiders games.
The fact that Gannon couldn’t catch a flight and missed the production meeting Saturday is a hint maybe the Raiders are getting their way on this through John Herrera’s public appeal. When has Gannon ever been late for anything?
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September 29th, 2009 at 9:37 am
Jmac’s problem is a young team on offence and this year is his own personal “sophmore year”,imo
September 29th, 2009 at 9:38 am
Absolute disgrace the way they treated a QB that took them to their last playoff and Super Bowl…unreal.
September 29th, 2009 at 9:38 am
Honestly I would be listening to Gannon, the last good Qb we had. Everything he has said about this team and the way it is playing is correct. Whats next Rod is gonna say something and he will get banned as well?
September 29th, 2009 at 9:42 am
Raiders
September 29th, 2009 at 9:44 am
6th?
September 29th, 2009 at 9:44 am
Gannon wore the SILVER N BLACK with pride, I think he had his best game as a RAIDER. He has earned the right to criticize the NATION. Everything I’ve heard him say is true!
September 29th, 2009 at 9:48 am
4ever
That is no excuse for inaccuracy. He had time in the pocket and wasn’t ready the field. Like I said before there is plenty of blame to go around, but common 3 games and no progress on his part. Same old same old
September 29th, 2009 at 9:50 am
What a grouch. The guy couldn’t find a single positive thing to say about that 23-3 loss to Denver.
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I know Jerry Mac is being sarcastic here, but in truth I was surprised at all the positive things he did say during the game! Every broadcast person actually. They’ve all been fair in their comments & assessments of the team. If Davis thinks every media person is a “hater” he should just ask Raider Nation for their thoughts. Maybe visit this blog for example every once in a while. Might be a nice wake up call for him.
Even Tom Cable said “the fans deserve a better product than what we’re putting out on the field”. Rich Gannon didn’t say anything much different …
September 29th, 2009 at 9:50 am
Lots of athlete’s go through the sophmore jinx.Thats why there is a name 4it.It’s like someone said…he just didnt 4get 2 play QB.Thats why I think it points 2 the dreaded “sophmore jinx”
September 29th, 2009 at 9:50 am
Lynn from Snot Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 9:51 am
Gannon was told Cable was waiting for him to give the former QB the Hansen treatment at the facility in Alameda
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HAHA if only he can punch Russel in the face and make Russel scared of him mayb he would play better, or eat cable who knows
September 29th, 2009 at 9:51 am
Gannon was told Cable was waiting for him to give the former QB the Hansen treatment at the facility in Alameda.
September 29th, 2009 at 9:51 am
Warren Sapp is a d-bag. banish him.
Rich Gannon is a class act! sometimes the truth hurts, but it’s his job …
September 29th, 2009 at 9:55 am
Yeah, Gannon’s right.
During one broadcast last year, he called out Davis without actually using his name and saying the organization needs to be turned around and he’s more or less rooting for the Raiders to succeed again.
Gannon’s a classy guy that will criticize justly and won’t throw us under the bus.
You sure you’re too old and too injured to suit up again, Rich? We could use you out there. Wait, you can throw 60 yards, can’t you?
September 29th, 2009 at 9:58 am
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September 29th, 2009 at 9:58 am
Al should listen to the guy instead of sicing his moutpiece on him.
Herrera basically said Gannon’s catching feelings because he threw 5 picks in the SB. Wow. Fuk you, Herrera and fuk you, Al.
It’s not as if the guy was playing his former head coach, 12 months removed who knew his every strength and weakness and using his own offense against him, no less.
September 29th, 2009 at 9:58 am
Gannon Rules!!!
September 29th, 2009 at 10:01 am
I guess when it comes to what Gannon says about the Raiders…the truth hurts doesn’t it Al?
September 29th, 2009 at 10:01 am
Palmer was also a super senior at USC and way more polished than Russell.
Some guys catch on quicker. Some guys don’t catch on at all.
I really hope Russell is like Bradshaw or Plunkett and not like Leaf or Couch.
September 29th, 2009 at 10:02 am
Piss on Gannon. Disgraced us in the SB after Al resurrected his career, and then wants to “blow up the building?”
Too bad he didn’t stay a DB.
September 29th, 2009 at 10:03 am
JaMarcus Russell is starting to
remind me of Darrel Russell (RIP).
September 29th, 2009 at 10:03 am
JaMarcus is a fat loser and he has body odor.
Would someone please smack that stupid mohawk off his head… Grow the farke up you fn fat loser. Dang I hate that guy.
September 29th, 2009 at 10:04 am
Last year Jmac started 15 games.The year B4 he started 1 game,altho he appeared in 4 games.Sooo imo,last year was Jmacs 1st full season starting,so this would be his sophmore season,imo
September 29th, 2009 at 10:04 am
Thats why I think it points 2 the dreaded “sophmore jinx”
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I thought he went through that last year?
Carson Palmer was on the shelf his entire 1st season. at least Russell got 1 start his rookie year!
Palmer’s soph season (1st as a starter): 2897 yards, 18 TD, 18 INT, sacked 25 times. QB Rating of 77
Palmer’s third season (2nd as a starter): 3836 yards, 32 TD, 12 INT, sacked 19 times. QB Rating of 101
both were #1 overall picks. thats the type of progression you expect and it’s not like the Bungles were already an awesome team before they drafted him.
September 29th, 2009 at 10:05 am
Gannon sucked in the SuperBowl, because the defense ‘KNEW’ every play he ran.
In reality Gruden coached 2 teams to the Superbowl in the same year.
Callahan didn’t even change the terminology.
Trading Chuckie was the begining of Al’s demise as a defacto-GM.
We are still sliding…
September 29th, 2009 at 10:07 am
Yes the Brohawk is stupid. At least the dummy covered it up with a winter hat (in hot weather). And the big rock in his ear DURING the game? Pure clown.
September 29th, 2009 at 10:08 am
Mark Sanchez
Joe Flacco
Matt Ryan
Need I say more…
JaMarcus Russell…
September 29th, 2009 at 10:08 am
Jruss is the a problem but our Defense still cant stop the run…WTF do they keep taking out seymour and ellis??? Tevor scott is a pos and stop anyone. It’s simple keep ellis and seymour on the ends and force teams to the inside…..
What is up with MCFUMBLE? everyone points to JRUSS but i was at the game and no WR where getting open in the second half, plus we have mcfumble with 3 fumbles in 1 divisional game. Why doesnt the media focus on that. If he hangs onto the ball then we are down 17-10 in the 3rd quarter.
This team better get thier heads up and start playing like they did on MNF…
September 29th, 2009 at 10:09 am
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 10:07 am
Yes the Brohawk is stupid. At least the dummy covered it up with a winter hat (in hot weather). And the big rock in his ear DURING the game? Pure clown.
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At least he realized the one with the fur ball on top of the beanine might be just a little “over the top”. But hey, we all know how JaMarcus likes his fur….
September 29th, 2009 at 10:10 am
We can’t beat ANYONE when we come out as flat and soft as we did Sunday.
Denver wanted it more, period.
September 29th, 2009 at 10:14 am
yep our tails should be between our legs.The Broncos kicked our ass on Sunday.Gut check time already
Work Harder
Dig Deeper
September 29th, 2009 at 10:14 am
So I have decided the only team we would have had a chance at beating on sunday was the TBay.
September 29th, 2009 at 10:19 am
The JaMarcus experiment is over…… He is too fat, lazy, and stupid to play QB in the NFL. His arm strength is just a myth, because without accuracy who gives a farke how far you can throw it. This isn’t Punt, Pass, and Kick
September 29th, 2009 at 10:20 am
Jerry Porter anyone?
September 29th, 2009 at 10:20 am
Amen 2that Brother VanHeathen…Amen 2that!!!
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true vet #1 WR.
We need someone to step up BAD!
September 29th, 2009 at 10:21 am
honestly I bet DHB would be wide open if you give him a 10 yd comeback route. everytime he runs its a go right down the field, once that corner turns his hips slam the break and come back.
September 29th, 2009 at 10:21 am
It’s rare that a rookie Wideout will contribute in the NFL. Starting 2 of them is essentially like playing 9-11.
They are rarely open, or where they are supposed to be.
Murphy is a stud, and has done great, but his production is NOTHING compared to a true vet #1 WR.
We need someone to step up BAD!
September 29th, 2009 at 10:21 am
What’s the difference between Akili Smith and JaMarcus Russell?
180 lbs.
September 29th, 2009 at 10:24 am
when was the last time that a NFL team started 2 rookie WR? i think it’s like 20 years ago….
September 29th, 2009 at 10:25 am
Murphy is a stud, and has done great, but his production is NOTHING compared to a true vet #1 WR.
We need someone to step up BAD!
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Agreed. Problem is Al Davis or Cable or whoever wanted to get DHB involed.
Why does it have to be a 50 yard bomb?
Speed can be used in many different ways (and don’t say sniffed, smoked, or swallowed, Gutter Minds), doesn’t have to be a go route every time.
Maybe if he stops falling down every other route. Kid’s not ready for primetime.
September 29th, 2009 at 10:26 am
VanHeathen Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 10:05 am
Gannon sucked in the SuperBowl, because the defense ‘KNEW’ every play he ran.
In reality Gruden coached 2 teams to the Superbowl in the same year.
Callahan didn’t even change the terminology.
Trading Chuckie was the begining of Al’s demise as a defacto-GM.
We are still sliding…
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Actually Gannon sucked because our line couldnt give him ALL DAY like they did during the reg season. in 2003, Gannon’s numbers went from 67% compl in 2002 to 50% in 2003 in 14 games. Stop iwth all the excuses already. I am sure 14 games in 2003 vs the rest of the league doesnt mean they knew the plays as well.
September 29th, 2009 at 10:27 am
Heyward-Bey is the root cause of the problems on offense? LOL. wow, you guys need to stick with bowling or tennis, because football is not your thing!
DHB got tripped up while being covered by two defenders. He was blanketed on that play anyway. Blaming a guy for getting tripped is like blaming a guy for getting injured – unfair. that ball never should have been thrown.
how many 50 yard bombs has JR thrown? 3 in 3 games? 2 against San Diego and one of those was a hail mary. the other was a TD to Murphy on 4th down. here’s the thing… when it’s 3rd & 12 or 15, most times the pass is at least 15-20 yards.
don’t blame DHB and love Murphy. they have the same number of drops: 2. DHB is a decoy in this offense. thats not his fault. he’s doing his job
September 29th, 2009 at 10:28 am
Gannon should be welcomed to the facility. did not he offer to help out at one point? its trash talkers like Warren Sapp who should be banished. Gannon is right on and a class act.
September 29th, 2009 at 10:28 am
There were plenty of reasons we lost the SB. You’re all right.
September 29th, 2009 at 10:29 am
JaFatazz is the lowest ranked QB in the NFL. (per nfl.com) with an absolutely STELLAR passer rating of 39.8. SOLID.
I bet he can cook up some dang good bbq though.
September 29th, 2009 at 10:30 am
You give Al the benefit of the doubt and blame Russell?
Doesn’t make a lot of sense.
If anything, you should feel that the Al Davis experience has ended.
September 29th, 2009 at 10:30 am
I agree with Gannon 100%, the “ORGANIZATION” should care more about the product it puts on the field….
Gannon should only be brought up when it comes to Raider lore, not that he is bad mouthing the “PRODUCT”.
How could we possible compete with teams operating in this decade, when we operate as if we are in the 70’s.
The “ORGANIZATION” is one man, acouple of yes men, a stoodge, and a few lackeys both male and female. Until the ORG changes this team will ALLWAYS be in flux…
September 29th, 2009 at 10:31 am
The Defense is 29th against the RUN….right behind our buddy Rob Ryan…Why cant we leave Ellis and Seymour on the ends? The Trevor Scott experiments needs to be over. Please stop taking Seymour and Ellis out of the games.
September 29th, 2009 at 10:32 am
Dakota,
How would we even know DHB can’t catch?
They can’t get the ball to him.
He has one credited drop (probably in reality 2 or 3) and one catch. Does that tell you he sucks or does that tell you we can’t get the ball to him. He’s too far away.
Run a slant.
Schit, we’d have to call one first.
September 29th, 2009 at 10:34 am
I have always tried to give Al Davis the benefit of the doubt, but as long as JaMarcus Russell is still on the field I will continue to think the old man has lost it. It’s over. It’s a sad realization, but the JaMarcus experience has ended.
September 29th, 2009 at 10:34 am
If Gannon is banned, then the Raiders must have a hit out on Warren Sapp. Ever heard that guy critic the Raiders? He doesn’t even have a rationale tone speaking about the team. At least what Gannon says makes sense, and we can see it with our own eyes the problems he mentions.
September 29th, 2009 at 10:36 am
Bobby,
on last Sunday, Sapp was raving about the Raiders Dline. Coincidence?
September 29th, 2009 at 10:36 am
This organization focuses its energy on countering the media and getting revenge on those that have said bad things about it….
…instead of focusing on scouting players and getting decent men in here to coach.
Davis: Oh, Russell has the IQ of a cabbage and DHB can’t catch? And Cable was 11-35 as a head coach previously? Didn’t know those things…oh well, hey how is that grievance against Kiffin and that lockout of Gannon coming along?
September 29th, 2009 at 10:37 am
on last Sunday, Sapp was raving about the Raiders Dline. Coincidence?
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I thought Sapp only raved about buttermilk biscuits?
September 29th, 2009 at 10:37 am
When the NFL puts in a rookie salary cap,.. then you will see players benched or cut for playing less than adequate. But paying apprentice players tens of millions just on potential is the reason you end up with guys saying “oh well I got mine, sucks to be you”. I believe picking in the top ten of the draft every year now for half a decade has sent the Raiders back not forward. Instead of taking a player in the top ten, trade down and get twice the players for the price of one in the top ten. Speed is good but I would draft for heart and football IQ not track stars. Just saying.
September 29th, 2009 at 10:40 am
LA,
According to reports DHB had many many many drops in camp, and he has at least two drops this season, and he has what, 1 catch?
Right, he can’t catch.
And speaking of Russell’s IQ, didn’t DHB get about an 11 or 12 on the Wonderlic? The guy is practically brain dead, no wonder he looks lost on the field.
September 29th, 2009 at 10:45 am
If Al Davis had ANY class, he would at least hire an GM. But he believes HE IS the living incarnation of the Raiders.
September 29th, 2009 at 10:46 am
On one of Denver’s long run plays (can’t remember which one, there were so many) Howard came up to the line of scrimmage and there were literally no other LBs that I could see in the screen (and I have a wide-screen HDTV!) Denver moved Howard aside like a little child and there was no one within 10 yards of the RB at that point. He was eventually pushed out on the sideline by a DB….
Who is to blame for that? Marshall? The LBers?
September 29th, 2009 at 10:47 am
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September 29th, 2009 at 10:47 am
It’s tough to say that Eliis and Seymour need to be on every play. First of all, that’s not realistic for D lineman, and second, Denver ran the ball quite a bit from the shotgun formation and was still passing into the 4th quarter. The pass had to be expected.
That’s why I think the pass rush was more dissapointing than rush defense. Those are garbage yards after Denver is alread up by three possesions.
Granted, it all stunk, but I was impressed by the Raiders’ goal line stands and little else.
Glad to see Mitchell looked decent in his first start.
September 29th, 2009 at 10:49 am
I wish we had a QB with “Raider speed” … that means JaWalrus wouldn’t be behind center. He’d be a backup on a team with an average over-the-hill QB like Kerry Collins/Vince Young for the Titans.
oh wait. That almost happened in Oakland with Jeff Garcia. maybe the thought of competition & work scared the big fella? Probably went up to Al’s office, gave him an ear full of bs and cleaned out the candy jar on his desk.
September 29th, 2009 at 10:49 am
No More Infield or Trolls Says: you organise it and get some1 to pay for my plane round trip from toronto and im there man
September 29th, 2009 at 10:49 am
The great empire of the Raider Nation fell once John Gruden left the building…..
And now we are stuck with the fat azz loser JaMarcus, and some crazy azz owner who is too stupid to realize night from day.
September 29th, 2009 at 10:50 am
It’s funny. Davis talks about loyalty. All Gannon did was point out where Russell was having issues. Went out of his way to praise Tollner and even said Russell’s issues are correctable. He was a real good player for the Raiders and this is the treatment he gets. Al Davis is senile. Take the keys away from this old goon.
But congrats to you Gannon. You came away the bigger man. Davis came away from this looking like a little sniveling punk, talking through his bully brother.
September 29th, 2009 at 10:50 am
LA,
It has been years for us to see 2 Goal line stands and Yup where are all the Mitchell doubters at? I told you all that boy can play and you will see him around the ball much more now.
September 29th, 2009 at 10:51 am
Dakota,
I don’t think DHB can catch either, my point is how the hell would we know if we can’t even get the ball to him or any other receiver for that matter.
Start hitting people in the mouth.
3 TE sets, Bush and McFadden, Fargas to spell.
Don’t even put a WR out there, let Russell throw for 150 yards and 2 TD with 90% completion rate.
Our outside game is a joke and inexcusable.
September 29th, 2009 at 10:52 am
Why don’t we set up a pickett line over at raider HQ and demand a better product. Like Jimmy Cagney said, “We’re mad as hell and we’re not going to take it anymore!”. we’ll carry signs and everything. Hell we could even tailgate. Might be fun. At least we’ll get Als’ attention. imagine the publicity. I am serious…
September 29th, 2009 at 10:53 am
I remember Wayne Valley’s wife saying Al Davis was like a rat scurrying around under the house, that they couldn’t get rid of. (long time ago)
September 29th, 2009 at 10:53 am
How many are down with the Pickett idea? Count me in.
September 29th, 2009 at 10:53 am
Dakota, if we judging a guy based on their performace in camp alone Mario Henderson wouldn’t be our starter at LT. Khalif Barnes aka Kwame Harris would be.
Heyward-Bey deserves better than Russell at the QB position …
September 29th, 2009 at 10:53 am
I understand it is part of the medias job to be critical of their local teams… but until we put a winning product, the headlines will not change.
i am very disappointed not only with the Raiders but also the fans… its only my opinion. I understand the frustration within the nation but having the crowd boo and chant “Jamarcus sucks”, I think is the wrong chant! How about booing ol’ Cable guy! Ive never been a supporter of Cable but I sat on my hands and let the Raiders do their thing. I want to give Cable the chance like we need to give Jamarcus but Cable needs to be accountable.
I know the players play the game but the coach, coaches the team… the team that went 3-out, the team that didnt force a punt till the 4th, the team that came flat, unmotivated on all 3 phases of football. its not Jamarcus’s fault that ricky brown cant cover Jabar Gaffeny or that the Defense didnt force 1 sack or a hurry!!! Also we all knew that Richard Seymour was one of the dirtiest players in the NFL ( http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/chargers/20080121-9999-lz1×21dirty.html )…. so stop complaining about hair pulling!!!
September 29th, 2009 at 10:54 am
LOL @ protesters. Al Davis will have you nerds locked up in a concentration camp and burned. he only wants loyal fans. not whiners or “female dogs”
hardcore fans represent a hardcore team. 13-3 baby!
Raiders win the west
September 29th, 2009 at 10:54 am
Jmac?
If you are referring to JaMeatloaf Russell. Its his 3rd year in the NFL. He doesn’t work hard. He doesn’t get in shape. He doesn’t study film. HE DOES NOT KNOW 100% OF THE FKN PLAYBOOK!
He is a complete failure but it will take you another year to realize what others know today.
# 4evaRaider Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 9:37 am
Jmac’s problem is a young team on offence and this year is his own personal “sophmore year”,imo
September 29th, 2009 at 10:56 am
I remember Wayne Valley’s wife saying Al Davis was like a rat scurrying around under the house, that they couldn’t get rid of. (long time ago)
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did she come to your barbershop for corn rows or a weave?
September 29th, 2009 at 10:56 am
I would like to see Jamhockus lead blocking in the wildhog formation about ten to twenty times a game.
September 29th, 2009 at 10:56 am
KK, now your down to picket Alameda ? lmao
Russell is the next Elway, isnt that what you, Priest, and Oakglen think ? Why bother picketing if we are set at Qb for the next 12 years ? Surely JaMeatball can put the team on his back with all those skillz and get us in the playoffs, relax!
September 29th, 2009 at 10:57 am
No More Infield Or Trolls Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 10:52 am
Why don’t we set up a pickett line over at raider HQ and demand a better product.
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I was considering that last year, I live around the corner from HQ. Been thinking about this year too, waiting to see if they were going to improve. But I’m down with the idea.
September 29th, 2009 at 10:57 am
The Super Bowl is done, and gone, If you guys want to rehash that for the next 20 years, be my guest, but it will never change the score, and only do nothing but make you relive the anger. I knew we had lost as soon as I found out Robbins went AWOL—I locked myself in my Apartment by myself and watched the game, and didn’t answer my phone for a week. It was like watching a train approach a car stuck on the tracks, you knew it was coming, and nothing was going to stop it. Al directly screwed himself out of a 4th Championship by getting rid of Gruden–The irony that he was beaten by him in the SuperBowl is just astounding.
But lets get to the present day condition of this team. At what point does starting Jruss when it is OBVIOUS to everyone INCLUDING the Quarterback himself that he needs to be on the bench become counterproductive. The guy has TOTALLY lost his confidence, and continuing to run him out there is just going to make matters worse. You have heard time and time again that “Throwing a young QB to the wolves” is NOT a good Idea because thier psyche just gets destroyed to the point that it can never be rebuilt (See Andrew Walter in Tom Walsh’s offense).
At some point we MUST go with another QB, it is obvious that he is regressing, it is a sign that his confidence is shattered and that he doesn’t believe in himself anymore–and his teammates don’t believe in him either. Sure they can all say that they still have faith, and Russell can say that it rolls off him like water off a ducks back, but that is the Bravado, the Macho tough guy talking, Not the real person that is JaMarcus Russell, if the truth was to be told he would probably say, “I have no buisness being on the field, and I am absolutely KILLING my teams chances at winning a game, someone else needs to give it a try because I don’t want to be the reason for another season flushed down the toilet”
Al is forcing Cable to play Jruss at the detriment to the entire organization–This kids shattered psyche will fall directly on AL and entirely blame the coaching staff for not “coaching” him properly. He has one of the best QB coaches in the game today-The problem is Jruss is not ready and he has lost his confidence. AL is blind. Keep throwing him to the wolves, and he will be seeing a sports psychologist by the end of the year.
September 29th, 2009 at 10:59 am
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September 29th, 2009 at 10:59 am
True Rockstar,
I should probably give DHB the benefit of the doubt for at least as long as I am giving McFadden and once gave Russell…..hell, pretty much any player that has stunk it up in Oakland the past decade or so may very well have been a star on a franchise that has discipline, the ability to develop players and a focus on winning instead of a focus on trivialities.
September 29th, 2009 at 11:00 am
I like the picket idea. The only problem is that Al will just pick up and move the team to Anchorage or something like that.
“The greatness of the Raiduhs lives here in Alasker.”
Gannon is the best QB we’ve seen since Jim Plunkett (probably better, actually). Warren Sapp is a glory hounding douche who can’t keep his pie hole shut. Sapp was also about as useless as ti*s on a boar hog. He’s fat and washed up. Hey, maybe he can play QB!!
September 29th, 2009 at 11:00 am
AL wants JaBurger on the field and Al wants J Walker on the bench. AL wants Hansen on the staff despite what Kiffin & Cable wanted. AL wants DHB on the field stretching the Def lol. AL wants John Bowie & Sam Williams to pan out. AL gets what AL wants no matter how bad the outcome may be.
September 29th, 2009 at 11:01 am
Not the “real” person Jamarcus is…lmao
September 29th, 2009 at 11:01 am
Yeah I know RR. Get used to it..
If you dont want 0bama HC you are a racist as well. I wont be deterred by race nazi’s.
September 29th, 2009 at 11:05 am
GANNON FOR GM!
September 29th, 2009 at 11:05 am
I remember when Russell had his pro day and McShay and Kiper blew their loads over the guy…they said he could make any throw…best pro day ever etc etc etc
…the only areas they voiced concerns with: leadership and desire.
I guess there is something to those intangibles huh Al Davis?
If you don’t have leadership at QB, then you need it from your HC. We don’t have it in either of those areas. And Russell needs a coach that will scare him into working on his game…Cable isn’t that guy either…
Dallas has a similar problem, a QB that is only half dedicated to the game and a pansy HC. They just have 3 times our talent level, so they win a few more games than us.
September 29th, 2009 at 11:06 am
Mr. Brown,
don’t tell Kelly that Russell is a bust. He’ll claim you’re racist!
Byron Leftwich was more impressive in 3 games this season than Russell and he got benched for a nobody like Josh Johnson …
September 29th, 2009 at 11:07 am
Dakota, I get what you’re saying, but do really think yet another coaching change is what this team needs right now? Please! Instead, we need Al to let go. Let his coaches do what they were hired to do. You simply can’t win the way Al wants to win. The last time this team was successful was when Al backed off and let Gruden do what he wanted (Callahan proved that it was really Gruden that got us to the Super Bowl when he was entirely outcoached by his former boss).
September 29th, 2009 at 11:07 am
…the only areas they voiced concerns with: leadership and desire.
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Dakota, another red flag was showing up to the combine looking like Fat Albert, no?
September 29th, 2009 at 11:08 am
Mista, the Raiders are stuck playing Jamarcus because Al is in charge.
September 29th, 2009 at 11:09 am
He was late on what…. 5 passes in the Super Bowl?
September 29th, 2009 at 11:10 am
Rockstar…I think that falls under desire…if you really want to be a great NFL QB these days, you need to keep your body in shape and your mind focused on the game.
From the looks of it, Russell isn’t there yet. I want to give him another chance with a legit NFL HC before throwing him aside…hopefully Al will do what is right and terminate the Cable guy ASAP.
September 29th, 2009 at 11:11 am
From Raider HQ
AD: Cable, you stick with Russell!
Cable: But we can’t win with him.
AD: Next year with the lockout. I won’t have to pay him.
Cable: The Lockout is in 2011, not 2010.
AD: Oh S***! That Damn Herrera!!!!
September 29th, 2009 at 11:12 am
Very simply Leftwich isnt making JaMeatball $$$. So he sits. The Raiders are stuck playing Russell because of the 30 mil signing bonus & his yearly salary.
# RaiderRockstar Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 11:06 am
Byron Leftwich was more impressive in 3 games this season than Russell and he got benched for a nobody like Josh Johnson …
September 29th, 2009 at 11:15 am
BJ, thats true to a point but you dont sit a guy making JaMeatball $$$. A guy like Leftwich can go to the bench and nobody even cares.
We could see this scholarship playing out for 2 or 3 years I suppose but the stadium will be empty.
September 29th, 2009 at 11:16 am
be back later. work to do
September 29th, 2009 at 11:16 am
I saw uninspired football Sunday Denver beat us to the punch right off the bat. Then , two ints from the the lottery winner and the game was over. Its up to Cable to get these guys going , I mean they had a bad practice Friday and what did they do about it… ….. Hoped things would change come Sunday????? I don’t call that coaching maybe wishful thinking.
September 29th, 2009 at 11:22 am
HA HA Time. One afternoon at Cheers, Cliff Clavin was explaining the “Buffalo Theory” to his buddy Norm..
Here’s how it went: “Well ya see, Norm it’s like this..A herd of buffalo can only move as fast as the slowest buffalo. And when the herd is hunted, it is the slowest and weakest ones at the back that are killed first. This natural selection is good for the herd as a whole, because the general speed and health of the whole group keeps improving by the regular killing of the weakest members.
In much the same way, the human brain can only operate as fast as the slowest brain cells. Excesseive intake of alcohol, as we know, kills brain cells. But naturally, it attacks the slowest and weakest brain cells first. In this way, regular consumption of beer eliminates the weaker brain cells, making the brain a faster and more efficient machine.
That’s why you always feel smarter after a few beers.”
Go Raiders!
September 29th, 2009 at 11:25 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 11:06 am
Byron Leftwich was more impressive in 3 games this season than Russell and he got benched for a nobody like Josh Johnson …”
Is this a joke? How was Leftwich more impressive? Do you mean last week against the Giants when he was 7 of 16 for 22 yards total passing for the ENTIRE GAME? As dismal as 12 of 21 for 66 yards is, Leftwich still did only half as good as Russell! Anything but impressive.
Maybe do a little research before you talk out of the side of your mouth.
September 29th, 2009 at 11:26 am
Oh Lord. Can you imagine Krappy’s picket line? He’ll be stumbling around the building, pants around his ankles, yelling obscenities at Amy Trask, a few Arby’s Deluxe roast beef sandwiches stuffed into his fanny pack and a homemade sign with RIADEEERSS in crayon.
Krappy, you’ve had some hair brained ideas before but this one takes the cake.
And Krappy, we all know Wayne Valley is a liar and a cheat and his wife is only worse. Don’t trust a word that lunatic tells you.
September 29th, 2009 at 11:26 am
Ok here is what I don’t understand maybe someone will enlighten me, as a football player, franchise QB, supposedly leader, 30 mill man, how in the world are would you be out of shape, fat, lazy n speak as if everything will be alright. I am not a football player and I understand how to stay in shape, simple bulk in the winter and trimm in the summer, calories maintaince and HIIT training whatever makes u stay in shape. JR can have his own personal trainer and cook n pay them 100000 for the both in order to stay in shape, I just don’t understand what kind of franchise player n leader reports 30 lbs over weight, he can’t scramble and as Ganon said the weight is affecting his throw. There was signs that JR never had a good work ethic when he reported to the combine over weight, but I just thought once he got the money he will have all the help he needs. My point is JR doesn’t have the it factor to be a football player, he doesn’t care abt this team, his career, or the drive to be the best QB. He got his money n will probably be out of the league after playing for the Raiders like Akili, Leaf, Crouch, n the list goes on, only difference this dude got 30 mill n more money to be happy for now cuz he will definitely be broke within the next 10 yrs. JR sucks.
September 29th, 2009 at 11:29 am
Gannon was right: The whole organization needs to be blown up. Of course, big Al will never do it. He’ll keep sending out his goons like Herrera to clamp down on the critics while the team goes 3-13. At least the Pats know they’ll get a top 3 pick in 2011!
It doesn’t matter who plays QB for this team. Even Payton Manning would have been a bust if he was drafted by big Al.
September 29th, 2009 at 11:34 am
Dakota,
I’d settle for Russell and a legit OC.
September 29th, 2009 at 11:35 am
The play calling is killing me
September 29th, 2009 at 11:39 am
Mistabrown Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 11:12 am
Very simply Leftwich isnt making JaMeatball $$$. So he sits. The Raiders are stuck playing Russell because of the 30 mil signing bonus & his yearly salary.
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No. The Raiders are actually trying to develop a player. To develop a player, you have to play him. Sometimes you are going to take some lumps doing that. But it sure beats paying that player the exact same amount of money not to develop.
September 29th, 2009 at 11:40 am
If you actually watched that game, (unlike mista brown fan who claimed he went to the game yet didn’t know what happened because he spent the entire game buying nachos and a browns hat) you have to pin that loss on Dmac much more than Russell.
On the first series, 2nd play Russell hits Dmac perfectly on a screen. Dmac fumbles for a 7 yard loss that one of the olineman recovers. On the next play Russell hits Mike Bush perfectly in the flat for an 8 yard gain, but because of MCFaddens fumble it was not nearly enough.
On the drive we scored points, Dmac fumbles AGAIN at midfield resulting in a 6 yard loss. Russell hits Zack for about a 13 yard gain, but again, it is not enough for the lst and we settle for a FG.
And then, there is the McFadden Fumble at the Denver 4 that breaks our backs.
September 29th, 2009 at 11:42 am
You guys don’t know what goes on in Russell’s head. He’s gonna take his money and run, is that it?
He doesn’t care to be a good QB? He likes getting booed?
He’s dumb because he doesn’t throw anyone under the bus in a post game presser or say ‘Ya, I sucked, write me off and the team, and the season. We really blow. Time to go cash a check and buy some bling.’
You base assumptions off what you see on the field. What else could you do?
It’s not like you know the guy or read his mind.
I’d like to see him take more responsibility. I’d like to see him come in trimmer and put in more work.
I’d also like to see him have a capable play caller and a WR that can catch.
September 29th, 2009 at 11:45 am
The guy is 24.
How old was Gannon when he played for us?
What kind of system was he in?
Who were his WRs?
Who was his coach?
Come on…..
September 29th, 2009 at 11:45 am
Al,
How are you? I hope all is well. I thought I would let you know that I have been a life-long fan of your Oakland Raiders. I have watched nearly all of those fantastic finishes from the 70s and 80s. However, something is going on inside the organization that I don’t understand. The team was once feared, but respected! Now we are laughed at? I remember wearing a Raiders jersey in Seattle, 1978, and getting hissed at regularly. Now, people just smirk. The offense is weak, the defense is weak and not aggressive. You won two Superbowls in three years with an attacking defense, although you did not get along with the Sumner and his style and personality. Now, Raider great, Rich Gannon, demonized by the organization for speaking truthfully, is not allowed at the facility. You criticized Stabler for a poor ‘78 season, explaining that he was the QB and got paid the most to take the heat. You are the owner, Al, improve the product or take the heat.
Today, the Raiders represent petty intrigue and revenge, not power football. Why are you not focusing in on bringing in players and staff to get us back to where we once dominated?
September 29th, 2009 at 11:51 am
For all those who think we can solve this problem with a good coach I m afraid to inform u that u guys r dilusional. No bonafida coach would wanna coach this team without full authority n top money, that too they might just say to hell with this organization. Also any coach likes to decide which players to have in this team n cuz who decides this matters, yes Al aka Mussolini. Also check our payroll, we r paying three overrated players close to $79 mill, JR, DMC n DHB. Meaning we got no money for free agency n we no player with the right mindset would wanna play here for market price, u end up getting guys on their end of their careers like Ellis or bums like Green. We all know trading for picks have been bad n as far as I can see Seymour had one top game against SD n now his contribution is fading slowly from Kansas and Denvers game. I hate to say it, we r in a mess.
Solution, look at what other franchises have done when they were in a mess, I believe Detroit n Denver had 80% of they roster changed, changed the playing philosophy n schemes, more control to the GM or coaches otherwise will end up being the same team until AL Davis passes away.
September 29th, 2009 at 11:53 am
I actually went back and watched the tape of the first half of Denver. Exactly what I thought happened, happened on the two Russell INT’s. The first one was an old Bobby Bowden Florida State play where they air it out from the endzone hoping mainly for a PI. Cable said as much after the game. Russell should not have thrown into double coverage obviously, but it was a decent play call.
The 2nd INT if you watch the tape, is a timing route. Champ Bailey leaves his man and throws a shoulder into DHB 15 yards downfield chucking him off his route. It is a clear illegal contact foul. Nothing is called and the pass appears poorly thrown and gets picked. Rookies are not going to get those calls against All Pro’s. They have to Learn from it. Then the sh** rain boos pour down onto Russell.
September 29th, 2009 at 11:55 am
LMAO
September 29th, 2009 at 11:57 am
There is no excuse for any of that!! We seriously need to consider a back QB before trde deadline!! We need to run the ball, get our defense off the field! What happened to last years playbook?? We were 10th in the league with rushing, this year we’are 29th!!
September 29th, 2009 at 11:59 am
If you read Gannon’s analysis, he not only had praise for aspects of the staff, but was very objective and right-on about JaWalrus.
Everybody thinks they are second in command in Oak. Its just a poor organization of meat heads doing as they please as the old man sits in his wheel chair barking the occasional [ill informed, bad analysis behind it] command.
Bottom line is there needs to be a smart, professional, well seasoned (but not too seasoned he needs to be current with the game)GM on the ground running the organization. He acts as the middle ground between these meat head unprofessional cancers and the old man in the wheel chair who lives in the 70s.
September 29th, 2009 at 11:59 am
Ronald mcdonald i mean Jerry mcdonald is just as bad as Gannon…
September 29th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
I remember when Russell had his pro day and McShay and Kiper blew their loads over the guy…they said he could make any throw…best pro day ever etc etc etc
…the only areas they voiced concerns with: leadership and desire.
I guess there is something to those intangibles huh Al Davis?
If you don’t have leadership at QB, then you need it from your HC. We don’t have it in either of those areas. And Russell needs a coach that will scare him into working on his game…Cable isn’t that guy either…
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Great post Dakota!
September 29th, 2009 at 12:02 pm
We also started 2004 2-1.
3 games don’t tell the whole story of a season, only the story of the first 3 games.
I’m telling you, don’t panic unless we see the same go deep crap and poor execution in Houston.
If we go out and play like we want to win and play like we give a damn, I don’t care what the final score is, the season is salvageable.
There’s no reason for this team to fold or the fans to do the same, at least not just yet.
September 29th, 2009 at 12:02 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 11:42 am
You guys don’t know what goes on in Russell’s head. He’s gonna take his money and run, is that it?
RICHOCHET: sure LOOKS LIKE IT.
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He doesn’t care to be a good QB? He likes getting booed?
RICHOCHET: MORE LIKE COULD GIVE A RATSAZZ
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He’s dumb because he doesn’t throw anyone under the bus in a post game presser or say ‘Ya, I sucked, write me off and the team, and the season. We really blow. Time to go cash a check and buy some bling.’
RICHOCHET: NO NIT, HE DID THROW OTHERS UNDER THE BUS. Stated “I look up and their not where they’re supposed to be”. THAT’S BLAMING THE RECEIVERS. Quit acting slow.
And yes, HE SHOULD STATE “I HAVE TO PLAY BETTER. THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR THE BAD PLAYS. I’LL KEEP WORKING HARD, AND NOT GIVE UP.”..except he doesn’t do that. He states ‘I’M SATISFIED WHERE MY PROGRESSION IS AT THIS POINT”.
How in the hell CAN HE BE SATISFIED?
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You base assumptions off what you see on the field. What else could you do?
It’s not like you know the guy or read his mind.
Richochet: No, we go by what HE SAYS. He blames others, he states he’s FINE. He states “I KNOW I’M THE MAN”. he states “I was NEVER worried about getting yanked”
HE DOESN’T GET IT. NEITHER DO YOU. HE’S SLOW, STUPID, AND YOUNG. What’s YOUR excuse?
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I’d like to see him take more responsibility. I’d like to see him come in trimmer and put in more work.
I’d also like to see him have a capable play caller and a WR that can catch.
RICHOCHET: The guy ADMITS that he comes in out of shape. LET’S JUST STOP THERE.
forget the rest. Forget the above comments..AFTER KIFFIN AND CABLE both have gone public saying he needs to step up, put in extra time, put in extra effort, show he wants to be a leader, do the things that show he wants to do his best, HE SHOWS UP AT TRAINING CAMP, AGAIN, OUT OF SHAPE.
He’s SHOWED UP OUT OF SHAPE. That’s all you need to know. That, in and of itself, says it all. There’s a ton more, but the fact HE DIDN’T GIVE A DAMN TO SHOW UP READY TO PERFORM, and in everyone’s eyes, is STILL SLOW, OUT OF SHAPE, HEAVY, AND PLAYING LIKE TOTAL CRAP says two things..that Russell IS TAKING THE MONEY, AND RUNNING WITH IT..and it says you’re a lemming, and a worm for refusing to blame EVERYONE EXCEPT RUSSELL.
Oh..wait..you said ‘want him to be responsible’..but then added “want better playcalling and someone who can catch the ball”? In other words, YOU SHOULD SHUT UP.
September 29th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
Al Davis is an idiot. I think that is obvious by now.
September 29th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
Hey Davis and Herrera, you guys gonna kick the Nation out for booing the pathetic team you’ve organized?
Truth hurts. Deal with it. All of these loyal fan here on this blog, the ones that listen to the radio when we can’t afford to support a team that lacks the committment to live up to the hype, we have accepted it. I am ashamed to be a Raider fan who treats someone whose COMMITTMENT brought this organization out of the dump it was in during the mid to late 90’s.
Your PRIDE is what’s hurting the Raiders. Looks like you should have kept Gannon on as coaching staff…still not too late. We all make mistakes.
September 29th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
Fellas, fellas, we are on the brink of turning this thing around! And by the way I’m selling the most awesome and expensive invisible clothing, Al is hooked baby!…Los raiders suck, no matter where you look, from top to bottom, this baby is going down like an old punch drunk boxer that doesn’t knkow its time to retire cause he’s punch drunk….
September 29th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
Another point that was made by Brien that was did on was the analogy he made to some of his family memebers.
There are a lot of people fromt he south who are Forrestt Gump like in that every day is a good gay. They really don’t care about anything one way or the other. Really even keeled, no high’s, no lows … It’s just all good, ya know.
If Al is going to force JRuss on us, we need a Gruden, Cowher, Fisher type to coach this team. If we are going to stick with Cable, we need to trade a few more 1st rd picks for Eli Manning or Phillip Rivers!
September 29th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
we are 29th rushing because everyone knows we cant throw. The game plan against the raiders is simple: stop their run. They’ll stop themselves when they try to pass.
That makes it easy.
September 29th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
Again, for the umpteenth time, Al Davis and his loyal supporters have no right to accuse anyone of being disloyal or stabbing them in the back, considering what Al Davis did to Wayne Valley in the ’70s. Al Davis deserves every bad thing that happens to him, period.
As far as Gannon goes, I see a guy doing his job and taking the high road. I support Rich Gannon 100%.
Back to football…did anyone notice the Patriots’ passing game looked awful early on? So, what do they do? Do they keep forcing the passing game, Raider style? No. They adjust. They pound the rock, running the ball 39 times. Later in the game, things start opening up for Brady and he then starts to find receivers with space. I wish our head coach, AL DAVIS, would take note of that and stop worrying about Gannon.
September 29th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
LA dude nobody is denying that JR doesnt have any decent Wrs, or a good play caller but what excuse u give him not paying attention to details learning the playbook staying in top shape, his reaction during the game, u can’t deny there is too many question marks in this point of his career, this the year when players especially QB show their metal n JR is regressing.
September 29th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
Raiders Suck!! Warriors Suck!! A’s Suck!!
It really sucks to be a sports fan in Oakland.
September 29th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
Being in the bay area, and watching both Raider and Niner games, one thing is blatantly obvious.
Having a good HC makes a HUGE difference.
You look at Singletary, and you look at Cable, and it’s amzing the difference.
the niner players respect Singletary. The listen to Singletary. The want to perform for him. Not because he’s a hall of fame player, but because of the way he leads.
He kicks ass when he has to.
He compliments when it’s warranted.
And he demands the best out of each and every player, each and every play.
Cable?
The guy is a tree stump. Has he EVER gotten in a players face? Has he EVER made a player worry about mistakes? Has he ever shown any emotion, except for jumping up and down like a baffoon when he threw a red flag?
Poster above hit it on the head. Cable should have gotten in Russell’s face, AND CRAPPED DOWN HIS NECK..and made it clear “THAT’S UNACCEPTABLE”.
Instead, HE DEFENDS HIM. Let’s him know “We’re cool”.
Because Cable is a puppet. A pathetic, inept puppet.
September 29th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
Are Davis and Herrera really going to eject fans for booing? They’d better get an army of security. I predict a full blown riot at the coliseum if they honestly try this.
September 29th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
LA to TheBay,
The season is salvageable? What do you consider salvageable, 8-8? 7-9? What six or seven games on our schedule are we going to win to salvage this season?
At Houston
At Giants L
Eagles L
Jets
At Chargers L
KC
Bungholes
At Cowboys L
At Pitt L
Redskins
At Broncos L
At Cleveland
Baltimore L
Right now the Jets and Bungholes are playing much better than us. KC pretty much beat themselves against us…but we could win that one. Houston usually beats us. Personally, I think the Redskins and Cleveland are about the only two games left on our schedule that we have a very good chance of winning…if we improve our passing game somehow.
I am thinking 4-12 or 5-11 again. Another 10+ loss season is a certainty.
Hey, at least we are breaking records!
September 29th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
[...] McDonald of the Contra Costa Times has Rich Gannon’s response to the Raiders’ attempts to ban him from CBS’ broadcast of the Broncos-Oakland game. [...]
September 29th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
Am i the only one that would rather have Vick at QB right now?
the Eagles might as well trade him to us b/c they have no use for him even when McNabb’s out so he’s just a waste of millions by only getting a couple of snaps.
September 29th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
# LA to TheBay Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 12:02 pm
We also started 2004 2-1.
3 games don’t tell the whole story of a season, only the story of the first 3 games.
I’m telling you, don’t panic unless we see the same go deep crap and poor execution in Houston.
If we go out and play like we want to win and play like we give a damn, I don’t care what the final score is, the season is salvageable.
There’s no reason for this team to fold or the fans to do the same, at least not just yet.
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That is the same take I had after the game.
I dont want to imagine this… but think about it for a moment.
If we go on the road and play like we did last week in Houston, then get destroyed against the Giants….
safe to say +/- 35k at the next home game vs the Eagles?
September 29th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
I agree, Neemska. We actually need more former players to do what Sapp and Gannon are doing.
September 29th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
Such BS. Gannon is a RAIDER. Al, quit getting your panties (er, Depends) in a bunch everytime someone disagrees with what you’re doing. EVERYONE disagrees with what you’re doing! Pathetic last 6+ years. We’ve gone from “Just WIN Baby” to “Just WIN, Crybaby”. Herrera can kiss my a$$, all these apologists that are bringing down our team can bite me. We need more Raiders like Gannon to step up and keep it real!
September 29th, 2009 at 12:20 pm
Ahh What the hell….why not invite Gannon back and practice as QB2 and see what he can do???? haha!
September 29th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
RR. Not wanting to protest the team Just Al himself and his wierd wacky ways. the gannon thing is a joke. The Kiffin presser was a joke. this team will be fine. It’s Al that’s holding them back. If i were on of the minority owners of the team i would bepissed about how the team is being run into the ground. They can’t be making any money. It’s possible we may not sell out another game this year.
September 29th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
http://aldavissucks.blogspot.com/
September 29th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
raidertay Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
Raiders Suck!! Warriors Suck!! A’s Suck!!
It really sucks to be a sports fan in Oakland.
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You think it just might be the city? lol..
I mean, it is the sty of the country..maybe it’s rubbing off?
Oh..uh..quite some time ago the “Oakland Warriors” changed their name to the Golden State Warriors, because of the stigmatism of being linked to Oakland.
They would appreciate it if you would cease and desist on ever using Warriors in the same sentence as oakland.
September 29th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
I do agree with Gannon in one aspect. He should be the LEAST of our worries right now.
September 29th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
That’s why they play the games Dakota.
At Houston ?
At Giants ?
Eagles ?
Jets ?
At Chargers ?
KC ?
Bungholes ?
At Cowboys ?
At Pitt ?
Redskins ?
At Broncos ?
At Cleveland ?
Baltimore ?
Would you have thought it possible we beat Denver last year by 3 TDs after being demolished week one?
September 29th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
I agree with Richochet, JR will run with his money only thing is that he is so dumb that he will end wasting it in few yrs. I read an article that said 75% of football players usually lose their money, JR is one of them. Dude got no brains n I believe in karma, when u get huge money n but then u play like u don’t care n sound arrogant abt u tend to lose all that money, what goes around comes around, same goes with Al Davis.
September 29th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
Whats is ’sty of the country’???
September 29th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
“Davis said he was scaling back on grandiose birthday-party plans because he didn’t want to flaunt his good fortune in a bad economy. ‘What a joke that was,’ says another owner. ‘He has no money – he’s trying to sell another 10 percent of his team to raise working capital. That’s what that was about’.”
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=ApK7PjeUW7HwpmJujPbPM11DubYF?slug=ms-ownerrankingspartone09020&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
September 29th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
We R Screwed, Too much invested in mr Mohawk… We can’t dump the clown now. all we can do is deal with it!
Gannon is a SYUD with an opinion and most of us IMO agree with him either openly or not.
However “Einstein: said it best… (see number 26)
Mark Sanchez
Joe Flacco
Matt Ryan
Need I say more…
THIS IS SO SAD TO ME BUT SO, SO TRUE… W are S!!!!!!
AND I CAN’T BLAME THEM AT THIS POINT FOR IT,
RAIDERS DIDN’T HOLD OUT, RUSSELL DID!!!
WE NEED TO KEEP RUSSELL WE HAVE NO CHOICE.
LETS HOPE HE SUDDENLY GETS SMART… YEAHHHA, Right…
September 29th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
The Raiders can publicly deny the organizational dysfunction all they want, but the reality of the matter is that the PERCEPTION is out there that this organization is a loony bin.
I was hoping we would win some this year to dispel that perception, but that is not going to happen, so we can look forward to another offseason of:
No decent HC candidates
No decent FA acquisitions
We need a friggin miracle to turn this around! Some HC like Holmgren, Cowher, Shanny, Gruden will have to look at this like Lou Pinnella looked at the Cubs…Hey, I know we don’t stand much of a chance, but if I turned this thing around I would he a hero!
Then Al would fire him for taking away the spotlight…but at least we would see a few years of decent football!!!! lol
September 29th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
I was refereeing a game this weekend and this coach was arguing with us over this one play the entire game. His team was gettin there butts kicked up and down the field (48-0) and he is still arguing over this one meaningless play in the 1st qtr.
Reminds me of Al Davis. Worried about Rich Gannon when his team is horrible for the past 6 years.
September 29th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
# KoolKell Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 10:53 am
I remember Wayne Valley’s wife saying Al Davis was like a rat scurrying around under the house, that they couldn’t get rid of. (long time ago)
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I bet you JaFatazz (you know our #33 ranked QB) could cook up a mean bbq with that rat.
September 29th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
I think we win at most 3 games this year, I have been saying 4, but I take that back. KC is only going to get better this year, like a poster already said they beat themselves, we didn’t beat them that being said, slim chance next time out. Cleveland is the only other team I think in our schedule we might beat.
Lets trade that 1st rnd pick for next year and get a low 1st and 2nd and draft some linemen and build from the inside out.
That is the only way we are going to have a chance. I have pretty much accepted the fact that Russel will never win for us and so be it. Let him keep playing and get his cheeseburger money. No more drafting skill players early in the draft just get the trench guys and get this going.
September 29th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
Oakglenn Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 11:40 am
If you actually watched that game, (unlike mista brown fan who claimed he went to the game yet didn’t know what happened because he spent the entire game buying nachos and a browns hat) you have to pin that loss on Dmac much more than Russell.
On the first series, 2nd play Russell hits Dmac perfectly on a screen. Dmac fumbles for a 7 yard loss that one of the olineman recovers. On the next play Russell hits Mike Bush perfectly in the flat for an 8 yard gain, but because of MCFaddens fumble it was not nearly enough.
On the drive we scored points, Dmac fumbles AGAIN at midfield resulting in a 6 yard loss. Russell hits Zack for about a 13 yard gain, but again, it is not enough for the lst and we settle for a FG.
And then, there is the McFadden Fumble at the Denver 4 that breaks our backs.
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You chase too many parked cars, OakDork.
Blame McFumble? So, you’re saying that Russell’s qb rating of 22 IS MCFUMBLE’S FAULT?
Or that his league low total qb rating for three games, at 39 is SOMEONE ELSE’S FAULT?
Total amnt of passing yards is SECOND FROM LAST is..someone else’s fault?
Fumbles change the end score, sometimes, but don’t change the qb from being the worst in the league.
He’s that all on his own.
And you’re the board Motley Fool, all on your own.
Pretty cool, huh?
September 29th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
Ricky, long time no see.
You make me feel oh so special when you pull apart my posts.
Russell:
24 years old
millionaire
progressed nicely at the end of last season
doen’t put in the work
came in overweight
doesn’t throw anyone under the bus (you hear any names?)
cooler than the other side of the pillow
indifferent
young
young
young
2nd year starter.
Did I miss anything?
If teams gave up on every struggling 2nd year starter, there would be a lot more turnover in this league than there already is.
Russell gives the company line at a presser, or did you forget who he plays for?
Who knows how his teammates respond to him away from the cameras.
I don’t care what he says to the media, as long as he comes to play on Sundays. The last two games, it hasn’t looked pretty, but it’s not all on him.
Rip Davis and Cable too, if you’re gonna play fair.
September 29th, 2009 at 12:33 pm
raidertay Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
Whats is ’sty of the country’???
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Sty? “pigsty” “crime-sty”
Along with Richmond, Detroit, and St. Louis (along with more than a few others ) it’s one of the least desirable places, in the country, to live, mostly because of the crime.
September 29th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
Russell said he was ok with his progression but not nearly where he wants to be.
Calm, level-headed. Selfish? Arrogant? Maybe. Don’t care, I’m not making buddies with them, unlike you, Ricky trying to be Singletary’s girlfriend.
September 29th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
Oh..uh..quite some time ago the “Oakland Warriors” changed their name to the Golden State Warriors, because of the stigmatism of being linked to Oakland”
Hey dumba$$
The Warriors were NEVER called the Oakland Warriors. Before they were the Golden State Warriors they were the San Francisco Warriors. Are you really this stupid and inept? Don’t bother responding because it was what is called a rhetorical question. I have no time to explain to you what that means either.
September 29th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
Richochet: thanks for coming in here to give Raider fans a harsh dose of reality. I’m a Raiders fan and even I know that Russell aka the face of the franchise stinks. he set this organization back another couple years, but who picked the bust? Al Davis is to blame. just another bonehead move by a stubborn old man.
I think Tom Cable is the right man to coach this team, even with a criminal record. I also think this team has a lot of pieces in place. Truth of the matter is, when you stink at the QB position you won’t win many football games. Vikings made the playoffs with Tarvaris Jackson & Gus Frerotte last year. 2000 Ravens made it with Trent Dilfer & Tony Banks. Right now JR isn’t even at their level, which is sad …
September 29th, 2009 at 12:38 pm
Is this a joke? How was Leftwich more impressive?
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Dogg:
Leftwich was 58/107 (54.2 comp percent). 594 yards, 4 TD, 3 INT, sacked twice. 71.2 QB Rating
Russell was 31/75 (41.3 comp percent). 378 yards, 1 TD, 4 INT, sacked 6 times. 39.8 QB Rating
what category WASN’T Leftwich better than Russell in ???
September 29th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
Ricky, long time no see.
You make me feel oh so special when you pull apart my posts.
RICHOCHET: As well you should
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Russell:
24 years old
millionaire
progressed nicely at the end of last season
doen’t put in the work
came in overweight
doesn’t throw anyone under the bus (you hear any names?)
cooler than the other side of the pillow
indifferent
young
young
young
2nd year starter.
Did I miss anything?
RICHOCHET: Lots. Stating his RECEIVERS WEREN’T WHERE THEY SHOULD BE is what, to you? Props? Is it hard to figure out he’s talking about Bey and Murphy?
But let’s go back.
question: DO YOU THINK IT’S ACCEPTABLE FOR A PLAYER WHO WAS THE #1 PICK, TO ADMIT TO COMING IN OUT OF SHAPE? To admit to coming in overweight? Two years in a row? After his year that he started that he was the worst qb in the league?
I know what you answer is..of COURSE IT’S NOT.
So..why does he get a free pass? Why isn’t his ass benched? Why is he being led to believe he can do whatever he wants..AND NOTHING WILL BE DONE ABOUT IT?
Isn’t that more the problem?
ISN’T IT THAT HE’S NOT BEING HELD ACCOUNTABLE?
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If teams gave up on every struggling 2nd year starter, there would be a lot more turnover in this league than there already is.
RICHOCHET: Give up is not the same as a major KICK IN THE ASS, and demanding a MAJOR ATTITUDE ADJUSTMENT.
The problem, in a nutshell:
RUSSELL: “I know I”M THE MAN.” “I was NEVER worried about being yanked”.
That totally blew me away. He should be worried as hell, considering his bad play, but he’s not.
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Russell gives the company line at a presser, or did you forget who he plays for?
RICHOCHET: Doesn’t everyone?
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Who knows how his teammates respond to him away from the cameras.
RICHOCHET: Well, it’s the NFL. And it’s Al Davis. One thing EVERY PERSON KNOWS, especially every person playing for Al, knows is you NEVER SAY ANYTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT ANYONE ON THE TEAM without payback from Al.
See Gabril Wilson. Led the team in tackles. Went public with he totally disagreed with how Hall was handled. HE WAS GONE.
It’s AFTER the players leave that you hear the discontent. Not while they’re there. And no, no receiver is going to go public, knowing he’ll get no balls thrown his way..even if they are 5 feet over his head.
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I don’t care what he says to the media, as long as he comes to play on Sundays. The last two games, it hasn’t looked pretty, but it’s not all on him.
RICHOCHET: honestly? Dude shouldn’t talk. This is not smack. Listening to him? He honestly sounds..hmmm “slow” is the word. IMO, he’s just not all that bright. Maybe he’s shy, reluctant to talk..whatever. But listening to him..sounds like he plays..very indecisive, all over the place, and ends with you saying “Huh??” lol..
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Rip Davis and Cable too, if you’re gonna play fair.
RICHOCHET: Just did, above. See “Singletary/Cable comparison”
See “Cable is Al’s puppet”
Actually everyone seems to be accepting the shortcomings of Cable, and Al..so not a lot to add.
Someone stated “Do you really think Al will let Cable get in the face of his players”?
That says it all. The players know the answer to that, and until that answer changes?
The results will continue to be the same.
September 29th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
Rockstar
That Leftwich comparison earlier was bogus. Leftwich’s numbers on Sunday were waaay worse than Russell’s.
September 29th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
RR
Look at Leftwich’s line from Sunday and compare it to Russell’s line on Sunday…
September 29th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
Gannon was right, DMAC is a bust.
September 29th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
Does anyone know what Mark Davis is like? Als wife and son are the direct heirs to the thrown so I would assume that Mark would take the helm. any1 heard anything about him?
September 29th, 2009 at 12:49 pm
RRS, are you serious? Ricky’s a punk.
Ok, here, let’s do this:
Hey, RaiderRockTard, you like THE RAIDERS? They suck. Russell sucks. Here let me cut and paste and take something out of context. Singletary’s a real macho man.
You’re sad, pumpkin.
A dose of reality is that snide little punks like Ricky are jaded ex-Raider fans that jumped ship for the 9ers or still secretly root for the Raiders while openly grilling them and anyone who stands up for them.
Why? He has no spine.
September 29th, 2009 at 12:49 pm
“Look at it this way: Davis, by his own admission, knew at the end of the ’07 season he’d made a mistake in hiring Kiffin. So what did he do? Instead of making a change that could theoretically improve his franchise’s fortunes, Davis spent nine months writing warning letters and building up a file on Kiffin to increase his chances of winning an inevitable grievance.
Meanwhile, the Raiders lost three of their first four games in ’08 and Davis, after finally doing the deed, motioned down the hallway at the team’s training facility and gave Kiffin’s old job to Tom Cable, an assistant who’d never been an NFL coordinator.
(And how’s that working out so far? Why, just smashingly.)
The paranoid, mistrustful, contentious culture that permeates the organization all comes back to Davis, who paradoxically prefers to surround himself with sycophants and habitually avoids confrontation when employees (such as previous coach Art Shell and former personnel man Mike Lombardi) openly feud. It’s a brutal combination, and Davis, 80, is becoming further removed from mainstream managerial functionality with each passing year.”
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=ApK7PjeUW7HwpmJujPbPM11DubYF?slug=ms-ownerrankingspartone09020&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
September 29th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
what category WASN’T Leftwich better than Russell in ???
Ws!
LMAO!
September 29th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
I agree, RaiderDogg. Oakland was known as a proud, blue collar city in the ’70s, and there’s no way a sports team would shy away from the Oakland label because of Oakland’s reputation. Oakland, like Detroit, Cleveland, were considered big union cities. See, that’s the thing. We actually had good paying manufacturing jobs in America then. There were no cities that had “ghetto” reputations. It wasn’t until the Reagan ’80s game along that we started busting all of the unions up and taking on a Wall Street mentality, and chalking entire cities like Detroit and Oakland up to being nothing more than cesspools of crime and savagery, even though it wasn’t true then, nor today. With the sounding of Reagan era bell we also started to mock the working class, calling them lazy and stupid, and telling them it was their own fault they’re unemployed because they didn’t go to college, etc. We just didn’t think that way in this country before the ’80s. So, when the Warriors came to Oakland, Oakland’s reputation was actually favorable to a sports team. Blue collar, lunch box type of town. My guess is that the Golden State Warriors gave themselves that name to target a bigger market, become California’s team.
September 29th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
Russell – 12 of 21 66 yards
Leftwich – 7 of 16 22 yards
Both abysmal numbers, yet Leftwich’s are much worse. Leftwich should be benched based on Sunday’s performance. Russell should be benched for his lack of performance and McFadden should be benched for fumbling the ball 3 times on Sunday!
September 29th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
Afternoon MR
September 29th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
So who should Al have drafted instead of Mcfadden?
September 29th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
MR
Well said.
September 29th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
You know teams are gonna really come after the ball with McFadden now that they see he has a tendency to fumble.
September 29th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
see you loons tomorrow. gotta meeting
September 29th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
REPOST
Does any1 know anything about als son mark? he will be the one that gets the after Al dies most likely
September 29th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
RaiderDogg Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
Oh..uh..quite some time ago the “Oakland Warriors” changed their name to the Golden State Warriors, because of the stigmatism of being linked to Oakland”
Hey dumba$$
The Warriors were NEVER called the Oakland Warriors. Before they were the Golden State Warriors they were the San Francisco Warriors. Are you really this stupid and inept? Don’t bother responding because it was what is called a rhetorical question. I have no time to explain to you what that means either.
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Peanut? Did you ask for permission to speak?
You know the rules.
Now, mama’s boy..geek who views sailing as “oh so exciting..little topsiders..my dockers..my scarf..my pinky in the air..look ma..we’re going back and forth.”
don’t act stupid.
Warriors were SF Warriors..since ‘62 or so. They started playing all of their games, in Oaksty, around 65 or 66..and we’re still the SF Warriors. 5 years later, realizing they don’t play in SF, and need a name change they REFUSED TO BE THE OAKLAND WARRIORS. And became the Golden State Warriors.
You missed the point, because you’re stupid, and you’re slow.
See, they KNEW that going from SF Warriors, a class town, world renowned, top destination spot for tourists, and film crews alike, to being called the Oakland Warriors is..like someone recently stated “like going from primerib to spam”
Now, quick, back in your hole, worm.
September 29th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
Ricochet needs a life.
Ukf Gannon. He’s bitter about the legacy left him after a stellar run and no rings.
Who wouldn’t be…
Oakland has no identity and no leaders.
Some one step to the plate and call bishes OUT…
Linebackers, I’m looking at YOU/
D line, I’m looking at YOU
Russell I’m loo…
Fug it the whole damm team needs called out!
REFUSE TO LOSE!!!
September 29th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
Go Golden State Raiders!
September 29th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
Best Strategy for success under Al Davis guideline (Control n Rule)
1)Trade next year first round pick for an injured Urlacher and Tommie Harris. I would also give them Kelly for free. Harris and Urlacher are known to be injury prone but I believe they will recover and be motivate along with Seymour, Ellis, Asmough. Sign Derrick Brooks n start in place of Brown but move Morrison to strong and Brooks to Middle lb dude can tackle and stop the run. Morrison was a joke against Denver running backs. Also sign a nickle CB Routt is a bum, get someone like Deltha O’neal or Ty Law. They will play with minimum wage lol. This defense would have time to gel together this year n be solid next year with Uralcher replacing Brooks. A front four with Ellis, Harris, Dez Bryant, Seymour or Ellis, Harris, Seymour, and stronger Scott along with Uralcher, Howard and morrison this unit will do damage along with our DBs.
2)Draft RT, RG, C, and special team players.
3)If Russel QB rating remains under 50% this year, sign any QB who wants a second chance, Derek Anderson might be available or Rex Grossman, I would also bring back Culpepper he looked good in preseason with the lions motivated and in SHAPE unlike Russel.
4) Allow Coach Cable some control over the offense as long as Al davis philosophy can be implemented in defense.
I believe if we do what the Ravens did, solid defensive line led by Tony Siragusa and Ray lewis. We will have Seymour, Harris and Uralcher.
Remember who was their QB, serviceable Trent Dilfer. All we need is better defensive linemen and true veteran leadership to have a solid motivated defense.
September 29th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
START AND PLAY BUSH!!!
September 29th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
WTF?????
I was reading this about the Hanson incident and this is what his attorney said:
McGuinn said that despite Hanson being barred from the Raiders facility, several players have continued to reach out to the coach and solicit his advice. McGuinn said players managed to get him a team laptop that previously belonged to Willie Brown, with the defensive backs in particular hoping he could help with game plans and give them tips.
Said McGuinn: “Before their last preseason game several players contacted Randy and said they needed help. They said, ‘If we get you a computer can you help us come up with some tips?’ Randy worked with them and they played really well in that game, particularly the defensive backs.
“So the guys asked him to do it again and he met with them before the Monday night game in San Diego (Sept. 14), and the defensive backs played well again. (Owner) Al Davis doesn’t know (Hanson has) been providing detailed coaching for these guys, and Randy has not gotten any credit for it.”
September 29th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
It’s funny how I address someone just as “dumba$$” yet they know exactly who I am referring to.
You can’t change what you said.
“Oh..uh..quite some time ago the “Oakland Warriors” changed their name to the Golden State Warriors, because of the stigmatism of being linked to Oakland.”
You said that the “Oakland Warriors” changed their name. You were wrong. END OF STORY.
Sucks to be you, I know this. It is painfully obvious how pathetic you truly are, you demonstrate it multiple times on a daily basis. The only thing that you have against me is that I like to sail on a boat that cost me more money than you will ever earn in your entire life! Like I said it sucks to be you. Now get back to your childish nonsense while I continue to make this money.
September 29th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
I agree, RaiderDogg. Oakland was known as a proud, blue collar city in the ’70s, and there’s no way a sports team would shy away from the Oakland label because of Oakland’s reputation. Oakland, like Detroit, Cleveland, were considered big union cities. See, that’s the thing. We actually had good paying manufacturing jobs in America then. There were no cities that had “ghetto” reputations. It wasn’t until the Reagan ’80s game along that we started busting all of the unions up and taking on a Wall Street mentality, and chalking entire cities like Detroit and Oakland up to being nothing more than cesspools of crime and savagery, even though it wasn’t true then, nor today. With the sounding of Reagan era bell we also started to mock the working class, calling them lazy and stupid, and telling them it was their own fault they’re unemployed because they didn’t go to college, etc. We just didn’t think that way in this country before the ’80s. So, when the Warriors came to Oakland, Oakland’s reputation was actually favorable to a sports team. Blue collar, lunch box type of town. My guess is that the Golden State Warriors gave themselves that name to target a bigger market, become California’s team.
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Shut up peanut.
You don’t have a clue.
No ghetto’s? LMAO..you idiot.
While SF prospered, Oakland became the ghetto..the “poor side of the bay”..which it is, to this day.
Yeah, fool..go compare ANYTHING to the East bay, and especially Oakland.
Oakland’s always had the most unemployment, lowest housing costs of any city in the bay area..ANY CITY..ALWAYS HAD THE HIGHEST CRIME RATE OF ANY CITY.
And has always been the ugly stepsister of the bay.
Don’t try and discuss something you know nothing about fool
Wait.
In that case you won’t be posting about anything, then, will you?
September 29th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
Phili cut Garcia for trotter and KC traded Thigpen-Miami
September 29th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
Can’t wait for the LA Raiders…..
September 29th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
This shows the class of Gannon….a man and Raider who REALLY believed and lived with the Commitment to Excellence and Pride and Poise mantra when he played here that used to mean something to this weird whacked Raider “organization” and I do use the term organization lightly.
Al Davis, John Herrera and Mike Taylor are JOKES who act little 18 year old school girls with their stupid childish vendettas.
September 29th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
“Don’t try and discuss something you know nothing about fool”
Oh do you mean like the once named “Oakland Warriors”?
LMFAO, talk about the pot calling the kettle black. MR’s fecal matter has more intelligence than your entire brain.
September 29th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
RaiderDogg Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
It’s funny how I address someone just as “dumba$$” yet they know exactly who I am referring to.
You can’t change what you said.
“Oh..uh..quite some time ago the “Oakland Warriors” changed their name to the Golden State Warriors, because of the stigmatism of being linked to Oakland.”
You said that the “Oakland Warriors” changed their name. You were wrong. END OF STORY.
Sucks to be you, I know this. It is painfully obvious how pathetic you truly are, you demonstrate it multiple times on a daily basis. The only thing that you have against me is that I like to sail on a boat that cost me more money than you will ever earn in your entire life! Like I said it sucks to be you. Now get back to your childish nonsense while I continue to make this money.
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Idiot. You quoted my comment, and you wondered how I knew you were referring to me? lol..dumbass.
And yeah, they were the warriors, playing in Oakland..was a slight, YOU STUPID FOOL..5 years being CALLED THE SF WARRIORS..while they were really THE OAKLAND WARRIORS..and when it came to change their name?
Like I said, never grow a spine. We won’t know who you are.
Save the idiot “I said on a expensive boat” whine.
Ok, I’ll play.
My boat..(power) has a helicopter pad.
Wow. Aren’t I cool?
Back to your whimper, little puppy.
You’re like a little defenseless child..”Oh, look wait..you said that..uh..no, mommy, I don’t want to say anything except for the one thing..then I’m going back to my room, where it’s safe”
Now, go, little boy. (of course, this is where you converse with OTHER peanuts, feeling the “security in numbers” thing.
Good boy.
September 29th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
Richochet, rating cities is just dumb, and another thing we started doing in the ’80s. It’s an anti labor tactic, and a strategy that law enforcement uses to boost their budgets, nothing more. Truth is, you can take the most violent city in America, which is not Oakland, btw, and you’ll still have nearly all of its residents being law abiding citizens. More than 90% of Oakland’s residents have never committed a crime. As far as them being poor, with today’s economy? In an age where Wall Street is collapsing and people with college degrees are delivering pizzas, you want poor people to pony up and succeed financially? The middle class is in a deep recession right now, with a lot of once gainfully employed middle class citizens wondering where their next check is going to come from. The entire country is becoming Oakland, Richochet.
September 29th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
Thank you, RaiderDogg. I take a lot of vitamins to make sure my fecal matter is intelligent.
September 29th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
MR
You just went right over that numbskull’s head. He is clearly unable to comprehend such things. I advise you not to waste your time with this little flea. It’s a waste of common sense and intelligence.
September 29th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
I’m sorry, whining little boy..I missed your answer. (we both know it’s just to laugh at you again, right, Gumby?)
LA to TheBay Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
Ricky, long time no see.
You make me feel oh so special when you pull apart my posts.
RICHOCHET: As well you should
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Russell:
24 years old
millionaire
progressed nicely at the end of last season
doen’t put in the work
came in overweight
doesn’t throw anyone under the bus (you hear any names?)
cooler than the other side of the pillow
indifferent
young
young
young
2nd year starter.
Did I miss anything?
RICHOCHET: Lots. Stating his RECEIVERS WEREN’T WHERE THEY SHOULD BE is what, to you? Props? Is it hard to figure out he’s talking about Bey and Murphy?
But let’s go back.
question: DO YOU THINK IT’S ACCEPTABLE FOR A PLAYER WHO WAS THE #1 PICK, TO ADMIT TO COMING IN OUT OF SHAPE? To admit to coming in overweight? Two years in a row? After his year that he started that he was the worst qb in the league?
I know what you answer is..of COURSE IT’S NOT.
So..why does he get a free pass? Why isn’t his ass benched? Why is he being led to believe he can do whatever he wants..AND NOTHING WILL BE DONE ABOUT IT?
Isn’t that more the problem?
ISN’T IT THAT HE’S NOT BEING HELD ACCOUNTABLE?
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If teams gave up on every struggling 2nd year starter, there would be a lot more turnover in this league than there already is.
RICHOCHET: Give up is not the same as a major KICK IN THE ASS, and demanding a MAJOR ATTITUDE ADJUSTMENT.
The problem, in a nutshell:
RUSSELL: “I know I”M THE MAN.” “I was NEVER worried about being yanked”.
That totally blew me away. He should be worried as hell, considering his bad play, but he’s not.
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Russell gives the company line at a presser, or did you forget who he plays for?
RICHOCHET: Doesn’t everyone?
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Who knows how his teammates respond to him away from the cameras.
RICHOCHET: Well, it’s the NFL. And it’s Al Davis. One thing EVERY PERSON KNOWS, especially every person playing for Al, knows is you NEVER SAY ANYTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT ANYONE ON THE TEAM without payback from Al.
See Gabril Wilson. Led the team in tackles. Went public with he totally disagreed with how Hall was handled. HE WAS GONE.
It’s AFTER the players leave that you hear the discontent. Not while they’re there. And no, no receiver is going to go public, knowing he’ll get no balls thrown his way..even if they are 5 feet over his head.
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I don’t care what he says to the media, as long as he comes to play on Sundays. The last two games, it hasn’t looked pretty, but it’s not all on him.
RICHOCHET: honestly? Dude shouldn’t talk. This is not smack. Listening to him? He honestly sounds..hmmm “slow” is the word. IMO, he’s just not all that bright. Maybe he’s shy, reluctant to talk..whatever. But listening to him..sounds like he plays..very indecisive, all over the place, and ends with you saying “Huh??” lol..
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Rip Davis and Cable too, if you’re gonna play fair.
RICHOCHET: Just did, above. See “Singletary/Cable comparison”
See “Cable is Al’s puppet”
Actually everyone seems to be accepting the shortcomings of Cable, and Al..so not a lot to add.
Someone stated “Do you really think Al will let Cable get in the face of his players”?
That says it all. The players know the answer to that, and until that answer changes?
The results will continue to be the same.
September 29th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
DKnight007 Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
This shows the class of Gannon….a man and Raider who REALLY believed and lived with the Commitment to Excellence and Pride and Poise mantra when he played here that used to mean something to this weird whacked Raider “organization” and I do use the term organization lightly.
Al Davis, John Herrera, and Mike Taylor are JOKES who act little 18 year old school girls with their stupid childish vendettas!
September 29th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
Best Strategy for success under Al Davis guideline (Control n Rule)
1)Trade next year first round pick for an injured Urlacher and Tommie Harris. I would also give them Kelly for free. Harris and Urlacher are known to be injury prone but I believe they will recover and be motivate along with Seymour, Ellis, Asmough. Sign Derrick Brooks n start in place of Brown but move Morrison to strong and Brooks to Middle lb dude can tackle and stop the run. Morrison was a joke against Denver running backs. Also sign a nickle CB Routt is a bum, get someone like Deltha O’neal or Ty Law. They will play with minimum wage lol. This defense would have time to gel together this year n be solid next year with Uralcher replacing Brooks. A front four with Ellis, Harris, Dez Bryant, Seymour or Ellis, Harris, Seymour, and stronger Scott along with Uralcher, Howard and morrison this unit will do damage along with our DBs.
2)Draft RT, RG, C, and special team players.
3)If Russel QB rating remains under 50% this year, sign any QB who wants a second chance, Derek Anderson might be available or Rex Grossman, I would also bring back Culpepper he looked good in preseason with the lions motivated and in SHAPE unlike Russel.
4) Allow Coach Cable some control over the offense as long as Al davis philosophy can be implemented in defense.
I believe if we do what the Ravens did, solid defensive line led by Tony Siragusa and Ray lewis. We will have Seymour, Harris and Uralcher.
Remember who was their QB, serviceable Trent Dilfer. All we need is better defensive linemen and true veteran leadership to have a solid motivated defense.
Bring in leaders to this team, players who are respected in the league and this team will of sudden be respected simple math.
September 29th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
Richochet Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
RaiderDogg Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
It’s funny how I address someone just as “dumba$$” yet they know exactly who I am referring to.
You can’t change what you said.
“Oh..uh..quite some time ago the “Oakland Warriors” changed their name to the Golden State Warriors, because of the stigmatism of being linked to Oakland.”
You said that the “Oakland Warriors” changed their name. You were wrong. END OF STORY.
Sucks to be you, I know this. It is painfully obvious how pathetic you truly are, you demonstrate it multiple times on a daily basis. The only thing that you have against me is that I like to sail on a boat that cost me more money than you will ever earn in your entire life! Like I said it sucks to be you. Now get back to your childish nonsense while I continue to make this money.
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Idiot. You quoted my comment, and you wondered how I knew you were referring to me? lol..dumbass.
And yeah, they were the warriors, playing in Oakland..was a slight, YOU STUPID FOOL..5 years being CALLED THE SF WARRIORS..while they were really THE OAKLAND WARRIORS..and when it came to change their name?
Like I said, never grow a spine. We won’t know who you are.
Save the idiot “I said on a expensive boat” whine.
Ok, I’ll play.
My boat..(power) has a helicopter pad.
Wow. Aren’t I cool?
Back to your whimper, little puppy.
You’re like a little defenseless child..”Oh, look wait..you said that..uh..no, mommy, I don’t want to say anything except for the one thing..then I’m going back to my room, where it’s safe”
Now, go, little boy. (of course, this is where you converse with OTHER peanuts, feeling the “security in numbers” thing.
Good boy.”
It’s hard to believe that there are people in this world that are really this clueless and just plain stupid. You said what you said and you were WRONG. No amount of scrambling and childish behavior can take away your utter lack of intelligence.
September 29th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
RaiderDogg Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
MR
You just went right over that numbskull’s head. He is clearly unable to comprehend such things. I advise you not to waste your time with this little flea. It’s a waste of common sense and intelligence.
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LMFAO..right on cue..AS I STATED ABOVE..
“You’ll be reduced to crawling back into your hole, while ONLY conversing with other posters..the I’M A INSECURE WIMP..so I want to play it safe”.
Now? You’re begging others to “be a wimp..like me. Try it, you’ll like it.”
You’re embarrassing dude..that is, if you are a dude.
September 29th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
Richochet, do you think you’re hurting us by calling us names? Do you honestly think we’re sitting here at home going, “oh my god, he called me a peanut! I am a peanut. I need to stop being a peanut…”. Do you honestly think that’s the effect that insults over the internet have?
September 29th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
Uh oh, richochet’s calling us wimps, now. I don’t know about you guys, but I picture richochet as being this body building, UFC type of guy, with lots of girlfriends. Don’t you guys? I mean, he is calling people wimps over the internet. So he must be!
September 29th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
Best Strategy for success under Al Davis guideline (Control n Rule)
1)Trade next year first round pick for an injured Urlacher and Tommie Harris. I would also give them Kelly for free. Harris and Urlacher are known to be injury prone but I believe they will recover and be motivate along with Seymour, Ellis, Asmough. Sign Derrick Brooks n start in place of Brown but move Morrison to strong and Brooks to Middle lb dude can tackle and stop the run. Morrison was a joke against Denver running backs. Also sign a nickle CB Routt is a bum, get someone like Deltha O’neal or Ty Law. They will play with minimum wage lol. This defense would have time to gel together this year n be solid next year with Uralcher replacing Brooks. A front four with Ellis, Harris, Dez Bryant, Seymour or Ellis, Harris, Seymour, and stronger Scott along with Uralcher, Howard and morrison this unit will do damage along with our DBs.
2)Draft RT, RG, C, and special team players.
3)If Russel QB rating remains under 50% this year, sign any QB who wants a second chance, Derek Anderson might be available or Rex Grossman, I would also bring back Culpepper he looked good in preseason with the lions motivated and in SHAPE unlike Russel.
4) Allow Coach Cable some control over the offense as long as Al davis philosophy can be implemented in defense.
I believe if we do what the Ravens did, solid defensive line led by Tony Siragusa and Ray lewis. We will have Seymour, Harris and Uralcher.
Remember who was their QB, serviceable Trent Dilfer. All we need is better defensive linemen and true veteran leadership to have a solid motivated defense.
Bring in leaders to this team, players who are respected in the league and this team will of sudden be respected simple math.
Matter fact, Sign any player who believes he wants to resurrect his career as a raider just like Ellis is doing so far.
September 29th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
Raider Headbutt Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
Phili cut Garcia for trotter and KC traded Thigpen-Miami
^^^^^^^Raiders should sign Garcia and have been start immediately!! LOL
September 29th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
Go Warriors! And take the Raiders with you!
September 29th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
Jeff Garcia got released if he knows the play book sign him n bench JR.
September 29th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
LA to the Bay, I think the Davis we’re seeing right now is the warm, cuddly Davis. I don’t want to see him when he’s pissed.
September 29th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
I think Jeff Garcia will be signed by Miami and starts if Henne sucks which seems likely.
September 29th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
How about benching JR and going with Gradkowski?
No other team in the league want Garcia. 4th string in Philly, and finally got the axe!
Cmon!
September 29th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
Richochet, rating cities is just dumb,
RICHOCHET: That’s because you’re stupid. See, you can go and find a RATING ABOUT ANYTHING FOR A CITY. From CRIME, to SCHOOLS, to EMPLOYMENT, to COLLEGES..ON AND ON..you moron. And when you look at those ratings? THAT OTHERS DO? Oakland is one of the worst cities, IN THE COUNTRY.
Aww..poor widdle waffling video boy? Stick to playing Madden, you moron.
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and another thing we started doing in the ’80s. It’s an anti labor tactic, and a strategy that law enforcement uses to boost their budgets, nothing more.
RICHOCHET: I told you. You abuse the right to be stupid. Law enforcement DOESN’T DO THAT, YOU IDIOT..No city’s law enforcement wants it out that THEY SUCK AT DOING THEIR JOB. The city council deals with it, but you’re a fool thinking a police chief wants it out that HE SHOULD BE REPLACED.because of bad numbers.
Again, are you honestly this stupid?
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Truth is, you can take the most violent city in America, which is not Oakland, btw, and you’ll still have nearly all of its residents being law abiding citizens.
RICHOCHET: Wow. well..isn’t that just marvelous? Well, here’s the bad news for you, CRAPPOLA FOR BRAINS..it’s not those “nearly all of it’s residents” THAT WORRY PEOPLE..it’s those “other residents/transients” THAT ARE COMMITTING CRIMES.
You needed that said?
SERIOUSLY..did you HONESTLY NEED THAT SAID? lol…
Geez..it’s like you’re a stupid little kid.
“hey..I got robbed..but..SOME PEOPLE DIDN’T ROB ME..so..it must be a nice place”?
Freaking moron.
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More than 90% of Oakland’s residents have never committed a crime.
RICHOCHET: LMFAO..again…YOU’RE A FOOL.
Well, let’s play..and laugh at you..ok, pumpkin?
On each block? Let’s make it easy. 20 houses. by YOUR analogy, ONLY 2 OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO COMMIT CRIMES.
Wow..boy..do I feel better parking in east oakland.
Only got robbed by 10% of the population..whooo hooooo.., lol..DUMBASS.
################################As far as them being poor, with today’s economy?
RICHOCHET: Didn’t MENTION THEM BEING POOR..YOU DID. I said “the poor side of the bay”. Pay attention next time. Put down your Madden game..and concentrate.
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The entire country is becoming Oakland, Richochet.
RICHOCHET: Oh shut up, lol..no it’s not.
Most cities aren’t ugly disgusting garbage strewn cesspools, like Oakland.
Most cities don’t have non-stop crime, like Oakland.
Most cities aren’t called one of the top murder capitals in the country, like Oakland.
Most cities aren’t always shown on documentaries for crime, LIKE OAKLAND.
That’s one of the dumbest comment’s I’ve read in quite a while “Most cities are becoming like Oakland”
You ever been to Oakland? I doubt it.
September 29th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
Then again, the QB won’t matter with the non NFL experienced play caller Cable calling the shots.
I mean, really, is there one coach out there that you think Cable can get the best of over 60 minutes?
Fire Cable! He’s not the guy, and we all know it!
Hire Hanson as GM! At least Al trust this guy and he’s the hardest working coach from what we’ve heard.
Bring in Gruden, Cowher, or the soon to be fired Jack Del Rio or Jeff Fisher!
September 29th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
Why would Russell worry about being benched, Ricky?
They cut his only real competition.
He’s just tellin it like it t i is.
Stop being so black and white. You’re like a child.
I can’t say that I don’t care if he doesn’t say “I suck” at a presser AND say that he’s underachieving?
Kinda like, hey, Ricky’s an idiot AND an a$$hole.
See?
Gray area. That’s where adults live.
September 29th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
MR,
Typically we don’t agree on much, but I must say, you’ve been on point here recently.
We disagree about Al Davis, primarily. Wheras you’re right about all the negative stuff (of which there is far more to judge), you refuse to recognize the positives of Al Davis. You know, the warm, cuddly Al Davis, lol.
But, all the same, good posts.
September 29th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
TrueRaider Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
I think Jeff Garcia will be signed by Miami and starts if Henne sucks which seems likely.”
I don’t see that happening, unless they are planning on going with 4 QB’s. Miami just traded for Tyler Thigpen.
September 29th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
Anyone believing that Jeff Garcia was cut for any other reason that he was the worse QB on the roster is fooling themselves.
You ALL saw Jeff Garcia and he was NOT better than Frye or Gradkowski!
Garcia ??????
Puh-leeze!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 29th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
RaiderDogg says:
I don’t see that happening, unless they are planning on going with 4 QB’s. Miami just traded for Tyler Thigpen.
True, but who knows, I feel Henne is a big bust and Thigpen can play the spread offense and some wild cat schemes but can’t play under center, if Henne chokes and plays like crab, I think they will cut him. Bill Parcel is not like Al Davis. He will pull the plug, he would sign and start Garcia. At least some teams have the guts to do what we aren’t doing, the browns, Bucs and we will see who else. Btw, JR sucks.
September 29th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
This is a disgrace! Gannon earned his status as a Raider and he shouldn’t have to bow down to any one on his thoughts about the organization. The years that Gannon was our quarterback were my most memorable years as a Raider Fan. He deserves to be treated with respect. I had the honor of attending the MNF football game vs. the Broncos when he had 21 straight completions and threw for over 300 yards against the Donkeys. I remember how proud I was of the Raiders that game when all of the punk a#@ Donkey fans were filing out of the stadium by the thousands in the third quarter. I think that was probably the last MNF game that we won. Anyways Gannon re-energized the Nation and put us back on the map with his MVP season and nearly broke Dan Marino’s record, lets give him some credit. It is rediculous that his opinion is not valued and respected by the Raiders organization.
September 29th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
TrueRaider
did you forget about Pat White?
McFadden sucks btw
September 29th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
# jhill Says:
Anyone believing that Jeff Garcia was cut for any other reason that he was the worse QB on the roster is fooling themselves.
You ALL saw Jeff Garcia and he was NOT better than Frye or Gradkowski!
Garcia ??????
Puh-leeze!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Actually, Garcia asked to be released according to Cable, he didnt wanna back up a bum he knows he can play better than him. Garcia will never have a 39.8% QB rating. Period. Don’t u watch football Seneca Wallace is better than JR and he is a backup for Hassleback.
September 29th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 28th, 2009 at 5:52 pm
Now watch the Cowboy playcalling.
^^^^^^^^^I was thinking the same thing last night when I watched the Cowgirl game SNB!
OC Garrett utilizes his RB’s well and designs the running plays they way the Raiders should be doing now!
He uses mis direction counter plays with the O-Line and Romo using fake throwing motions and fake pass play set ups to hold the LB’s into thinking it is a pass play while it turns into a nice running play.
The way the Cowboys use their running game and call plays….is the way Cable and Tollner need to call plays when it comes to using a heavy two headed running attack.
September 29th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
I’d still take Garcia. And since Brien’s going to accuse me of being gay for it, what the heck. It would be kind of nice to see Jeffy running around in tight pants again. Whatever moves the chains.
September 29th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
I believe Davis cut Garcia to remove any temptation by the staff to bench Russell.
The Organization is a joke. Dysfunctional, nonfunctional.
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32. Oakland Raiders – Al Davis: Not only is Davis doing a lousy job of presiding over his franchise, but his money-management skills are failing as well. After quietly selling 20 percent of the team to a trio of hedge-fund managers in the fall of ’07, Davis received a much-needed cash infusion of approximately $150 million – and proceeded to spend it on some of the most dubious acquisitions (Javon Walker(notes), DeAngelo Hall(notes)) of the decade. Think hard: Since the Raiders were blown out in Super Bowl XXXVII by the Bucs (and then-coach Jon Gruden, whom Davis dealt to Tampa Bay after failing to offer him a market-value contract extension), has he or Matt Millen been worse at running a team? It’s a tough call, and that’s scary. Now, sources say, Davis once again has cash-flow issues. In a July interview with team play-by-play announcer Greg Papa of Comcast SportsNet Bay Area, Davis said he was scaling back on grandiose birthday-party plans because he didn’t want to flaunt his good fortune in a bad economy. “What a joke that was,” says another owner. “He has no money – he’s trying to sell another 10 percent of his team to raise working capital. That’s what that was about.”
September 29th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
Why would Russell worry about being benched, Ricky?
RICHOCHET: omg..*sigh*..do you get ANYTHING?
WTF? I feel like I’m explaining things to my kids. “Why would he worry”?? OH..I DON’T KNOW..MAYBE BECAUSE HE’S THE WORST QB IN THE LEAGUE? How’s that for starters?
POINT IS..and damn..pay attention this time..POINT IS THAT THE PROBLEM IS THAT HE’S NOT WORRIED, AND NOT DOING ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
You didn’t get that point? Again, I HAD TO EXPLAIN THAT TO YOU? How can you ask that ignorant question..”why should he be worried”?
And NO, YOU BAFFOON..Garcia SUCKED. he stunk. He got cut by EVERYONE for a reason..and when he got playing time, HE LOOKED AS BAD AS RUSSELL..both the other backups played better than Garcia.
AMAZING I HAD TO POINT THAT OUT AS WELL.
Damn you’re slow.
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They cut his only real competition.
He’s just tellin it like it t i is.
Stop being so black and white. You’re like a child.
I can’t say that I don’t care if he doesn’t say “I suck” at a presser AND say that he’s underachieving?
Kinda like, hey, Ricky’s an idiot AND an a$$hole.
See?
Gray area. That’s where adults live.
Richochet: The list is VERY SHORT on this board who agree with anything you say. For that matter, with the exception of the few little tools “Maddenchild, Littledoggy, couple others” MOST THINK YOU’RE A BALL LESS SAC HANGER, who lives vicariously through a loser who’s approaching bust status.
See, adults? They call it like it is. They don’t make excuses. They don’t whine, LIKE YOU DID ABOVE ‘pICK ON THE OTHER GUYS TOO’..see..that’s for children to do. That’s immature crap.
Again, HOW FREAKING STUPID CAN YOU BE?
How can you even post “What’s he have to worry about’?
yOU HAVE NO IDEA THAT MOST RAIDER FANS READING THAT IMMEDIATELY REGISTED “HUH? WHAT?? HE HAS A LOT TO WORRY ABOUT”.
Difference is they have a clue, and a backbone. You?
You’re just pathetic, top to bottom.
September 29th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
I say go with Gradkowski, and move JR to second string. Make the kid earn something for a change.
Ehhhh … WTF am I saying ????
None of it matters with Cable coaching the team.
Please AL! No more learning on the job charity intern programs for HC or DC!
September 29th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
Richochet, what is the point of rating cities by schools, crime rates, etc? It’s not about safety or information. Does anyone need to read a stupid study to find out that Oakland is dangerous and the schools are bad? I could tell you that driving down International from Fruitvale to San Leandro. These studies are used as excuses to tear residential buildings down and to break teachers’ unions, etc. Also used to get police funding for agencies that really ought to focus more on ethics, like the OPD. My heart goes out to the officers that were killed, but let’s face it, that police department is only a short notch above the gangs themselves. Look up “the riders”. Also, a lot of cities with their own problems use those city rankings to rationalize them and make themselves look good, a reelection strategy. “Hey, we’re not as bad as Oakland”. Meanwhile, they’re problems go unaddressed, because they’re too happy not being Oakland, and eventually, with this economy going the way it is, they’re becoming Oakland more and more by the second.
September 29th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
True
I have seen Miami use Pat White only a handful of times and only in the Wildcat formation.
On the bright side, I think that Louis Murphy was a steal in the 4th round.
September 29th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
I asked JerryMac if he had access to the players after the game or did they have to wait until JaMarcus got hosed down. He didn’t respond.
September 29th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
That letter to JaMarcus is retarded. He’s blaming Russell for things that are Al Davis’s fault. Russell should write him back and say,
Dear Davis minion,
I’m laughing all the way to the bank. Have a good day.
Sincerely,
Rich, black quarterback who nails white chicks on the regular.
September 29th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
TrueRaider
I have seen Miami use Pat White only a handful of times and only in the Wildcat formation.
On the bright side, I think that Louis Murphy was a steal in the 4th round.
September 29th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 28th, 2009 at 5:52 pm
Now watch the Cowboy playcalling.
^^^^^^^^^I was thinking the same thing last night when I watched the Cowgirl game SNB!
OC Garrett utilizes his RB’s well and designs the running plays they way the Raiders should be doing now!
He uses mis direction counter plays with the O-Line and Romo using fake throwing motions and fake pass play set ups to hold the LB’s into thinking it is a pass play while it turns into a nice running play.
The way the Cowboys use their running game and call plays….is the way Cable and Tollner need to call plays when it comes to using a heavy two headed running attack.
September 29th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
I’d still take Garcia. And since Brien’s going to accuse me of being gay for it, what the heck. It would be kind of nice to see Jeffy running around in tight pants again. Whatever moves the chains.
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That’s because you’re stupid.
Garcia was released by SOME OF THE WORST TEAMS IN THE LEAGUE..with Detroit and Cleveland letting him go..just like Eagles let him go..just like TB let him go.
Yeah, peanut, no small surprise you would be after him.
And WTF? YOU STATE IT WOULD BE NICE TO SEE GARCIA RUNNING AROUND IN TIGHT PANTS AGAIN?
Oh geez…figures.
Should have known. Let me guess? You “sail” too?
September 29th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
RaiderDogg yeah I did forget about Pat White, did they use him so far. Who cares, JR, DMC, DHB all suck, 80 mill of pure garbage.
September 29th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
This is a letter to Jmac as written on the Bleacher report.
Dear JaMarcus,
I have been an Oakland Raiders fan for nearly twenty years now.
From the moment I saw Bo Jackson on a football field, I was hooked. There have been some good times, some great times, and, especially recently, some bag-over-the-head, crying in your Sunday beer times.
Like a good fan I have stuck by the team during these times, pushing for victory even when everyone thought I was insane. The Oakland Raiders mean a great deal to me, and to a lot of other members of the Raider Nation.
We live and die with every single snap of every single season.
My question to you is this: Do the Oakland Raiders mean anything to you?
I do not want the obvious answers such as “yes, they mean big money” or “yes, because I’m in the NFL.” No, I want to hear answers like “yes, I’m proud to be a Raider and look forward to restoring the glory and tradition to the franchise.”
Many of us in the “Nation” have given you benefit after benefit of doubt after doubt. All we want to see is that you appreciate the support, that you’re doing your best, and you care about being a successful NFL quarterback.
However, what I’ve seen this season is a spoiled child who blames everyone else for his own failings, spends money immaturely, and simply does not get razzed, upset, or even care that they just played two of the worst back-to-back games by a quarterback in NFL history.
Your physical talent is prodigious but no longer enough to get you by. You were great in college because you were a man amongst boys. But this season you look like a lost child amongst men.
Why do you do this to us?
Why entice us with such solid performances at the end of last season when you were going to regress this badly this season? And how does that happen with Paul Hackett and Ted Tollner teaching you the position? Something is going on here, and I can’t put my finger on it, but I would point to your apparent lack of interest as main factor.
If your rookie wide receivers are the problem, take lots of extra time and throw with them.
There’s this guy, you might have heard of him, he’s pretty decent, his name is Peyton Manning. He spends as much time away from practice as he does in practice with his receivers, trying to get on the same page.
It seems to work for him.
You held a passing camp this summer, which was a great step in the right direction. But you had practice squad players and people who weren’t going to see the field show up. That’s not your fault, really, the effort was there; you’re trying.
But since then, I’ve heard nothing of you staying after practice or taking the rookies to the side and working on timing. Nothing. In fact, I’ve heard and read you are frequently one of the last people in and one of the first to leave.
Show me a SINGLE NFL quarterback—even a second stringer—that approaches work this way.
You have shown leadership in one area: crunch time. Remember, though, that a leader leads always, and that as leader, everything is always your fault. Not your receivers, the referees; or the descent of Saturn into Mercury.
No, it’s on your shoulders, even if it’s not. This is one of the many aspects of playing NFL quarterback you haven’t seem to grasp.
I know the story: you were drafted, held out, missed training camp, have had two different coaches and three different play-callers, have rookie wide receivers, and many other negative factors that have influenced your first three seasons. I get all that, and I am empathetic to your plight.
It must not be easy to succeed when seemingly all factors for quarterback success are working against you.
We in the Nation want you to succeed. We’ve seen your talent on full display, and are ravenous to see it more consistently. You tease us with the ability to fire a dart into double-coverage where only your receiver can get it, only to follow it up with a four-yard screen at your running back’s feet.
You are culpable in this. You can take charge, slap some guys around, take some initiative, stay after practice, break down film.
You can care. Please.
Because we all do, so very much.
I have to say that right now, through your words, actions, demeanor, wardrobe, and acumen, you certainly seem like you don’t.
September 29th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
jhill Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
I say go with Gradkowski, and move JR to second string. Make the kid earn something for a change.
^^^^^^^I actually with this approach….
September 29th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
Geez..can’t believe I’m agreeing with most of what jhill’s saying.
lol.. one of us obviously had a lobotomy.
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September 29th, 2009 at 1:45pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says: I’d still take Garcia. It would be kind of nice to see Jeffy running around in tight pants again.
September 29th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
No surprise that idiot who wrote the letter to Russell at bleacherreport became a fan in the later L.A. years…
September 29th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
How is he an idiot, he could be young. I’m 32 and i became a Raider fan in 84″. I was only 7 years old so i didnt understand much of the game.
September 29th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
Wow that letter seems to me more like a begging like something AIG and GM motors will ask from the government. I would say this in reply to whom ever wrote that letter,
Stupid drinking the kool aid, JR SUCKS, he got his money and doesnt care about the NFL, he seems happy to be the worst QB in the NFL, he parties on thursday and fridays thats why he the first to bounce. He doesn’t care about your letter cause he could barely read or speak, thats glorified fact when u see him during press interviews. Yow man, I m the man, I can’t get Yanked, U feel me player, Step your game up and get your money, thats whats in JR mind, to him we all haters cause he made it n we supposedly got nothin going for ourselves Lol
September 29th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
Could Jeff Garcis return to Oakland? I am sure he would think his chances of eventually becoming the starter have increased by a lot.
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/4555/could-oakland-revisit-garcia
September 29th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
Amen Rich Gannon, it’s an outrage the way the organization has treated him, For What? Speaking the Truth, since How come the Faider Organization is acting like a communist country? Mr.Davis should step down and take an example from Fidel Castro, it’s just unbelivable that they get upset over the media speaking the Truth about the crap this organization has given us the last 6 years, wake up morons stop supporting this crap on this field, no disrespect just expressing myself .
September 29th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
Ricky, in reality this time, we’ll try this again. If you think trying “explain” something to me is like talking to your kids, then me explaining something to you is like expecting an intelligent answer from a rock.
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Why would Russell worry about being benched, Ricky?
RICHOCHET: omg..*sigh*..do you get ANYTHING?
WTF? I feel like I’m explaining things to my kids. “Why would he worry”?? OH..I DON’T KNOW..MAYBE BECAUSE HE’S THE WORST QB IN THE LEAGUE? How’s that for starters?
Ok, reality: He has no competition. He knows this. He’s “The Guy.” Everyone knows this. Even YOU know this (congrats on finally knowing something, by the way).
Even if he did stink it up, he’s not sweating it. Never did I say that was a good thing. It’s good to be pushed and know you have competition. I do think the guy has ba11s saying that, because obviously it ruffled your little feathers and a lot of other bird brains.
You care if anyone agrees with me or not? If everyone agreed with me, I’d have nothing to say.
The fact is, most people in here are completely clueless, especially you.
Stop taking stuff out of context. It’s above your head, anyway. Being snide doesn’t make you accurate, it makes you jaded.
Draft a guy #1 overall and create a scheme around him (or the notion that his arm can do anything) and then dump him after he can’t execute terrible plays?
I don’t live vicariously through anyone. Once I’m done chit-chatting with Raider fans, I go home and have a life.
You have a wife and kids. Aren’t they concerned that you’re a loser who pretends to hate the Raiders, yet spends most of your time on a blog dedicated to them, rather than joining them in the welfare line?
You’re lame. You’re a joke.
You can disagree with me on all things Russell and Raiders. I could be dead wrong about giving your #1 overall pick more than one season with poor playcalling to boot. Fine, I’m OK with that.
You have no life, no ba11s, and are a complete tool.
You OK with that?
September 29th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
I think it’s also safe to say that not only is JaMarcus the WORST QB in the NFL this year, he is probably the fattest, the only one with a “brohawk” and easily the stupidest. He is as dumb as a box of rocks. How can anyone play QB, let alone football, with an IQ as low as his. Dude is an idiot.
September 29th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
I don’t understand why benching Jamarcus is seen as a “can’t do”. It’s not like if he gets benched for a week or two, he can’t win the job back again.
We got to try to save the season, he can work on his “development” when we are 4-8, for now Al needs to sell tickets and win games, Jamarcus ain’t selling any tickets averaging less than 3 yards AN ATTEMPT!!
September 29th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
Vicky Valencourt, Coach Klein, and “Momma” all love JaMeatballs “browhawk”.
September 29th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
Oakland Raiders 24 houston boots 21
Cable just texted me and said this is the week.
September 29th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
Jamarcus gets the start, but if he is awful again, you have to go with the Gradowski at some point in the game. You will lose the team if some guy just gets the job, without working hard or performing well. Other guys will just say screw it and do as Jamarcus does. He, and the team, need direct accountability.
September 29th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
# Plunketthead Says:
Oakland Raiders 24 houston boots 21
Cable just texted me and said this is the week.
R u serious? lol
Here is what is in my mind. Houston 34 Raiders 3 if JR starts and remains the QB.
If we bench half time, Houston 34 Raiders 21
September 29th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
Cable benched JR last year and it worked.
He will bench him again.
I trust Cable to turn this program around. That means we will be lucky to go to 8-8 next year.
If Cable cant do that by next year then fire him but untill then Cable stays, just like JR, DHB and Dmac.
I support all of them no matter how incompentent look JR looks.
September 29th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
# Oakglenn Says:
The only problem with that logic Vegas is you and most others are under the assumption that any other QB is going to be better. That is not necesarily true. Seeing Gradkowski play on Monday Nite it is safe to assume I don’t think he is going to do better, especially since the issues of rookie WR’s and McFadden’s fumbles are not addressed by benching Russell.
Dude, here is my take with your comment. Tell me something when did Frye or Gradkowtzki ever had a QB rating 39.8% after three games. We are not saying Frye n Grad are good QBs, all what we saying is that at least they would not produce a 39.8% QB rating. JR is the worst QB in this league, Seneca Wallace who is a backup has a better stats than a 30 mill bust. Do you get it now~~~
September 29th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
Oakglenn,
How do we know he isn’t better? I have a hard time thinking he would be worse.
True it is not just QB play, but it is one facet that has been downright awful. What’s the difference if Bruce sucks? As long as Jamarcus doesn’t take his demotion like a girl and play the victim role, I see no reason why a look at Bruce isn’t realistic. If Jamarcus does mope around, than we know what we have a little better.
Bruce has had better games than Jamarcus’ best game, and never been worse than Jamarcus’ worst games.
September 29th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
The only problem with that logic Vegas is you and most others are under the assumption that any other QB is going to be better. That is not necesarily true. Seeing Gradkowski play on Monday Nite it is safe to assume I don’t think he is going to do better, especially since the issues of rookie WR’s and McFadden’s fumbles are not addressed by benching Russell.
September 29th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
Raiders win this week
September 29th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
I am serious. We will beat the dam Boots Sunday
Beat em like an old rug. Cable said Seymour is pissed and thats why he yanked Clady like a rag doll.
He told everyone in the locker room that he was gonna yank all of them by their nuts and swing them untill they stop ripping Al off for a paycheck.
They will stomp some bootbutt this week
Guarenteed
September 29th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
10 point underdogs the Raiders are, to a team that just got beat at home by one of the worst teams in the league, the Jags.
Can’t wait until we go to Pittsburgh, we might be 17 point underdogs!!!!!
September 29th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
I will say this, if the same receivers play sunday as last week, it doesn’t matter who is playing QB they arent going to perform well. However if Chaz plays and its chaz and murphy which i hope i is, and JR is still garbage. you have to choice but to put someone else in and see what they can do.
September 29th, 2009 at 2:44 pm
LA ok if the play calling is the major issue fine, im not gonna disagree with you, but at the same time, would it not make sense to put in another QB regardless if we think/ know he is worse or not and see if he can make something happen?
If Grad goes in and all of a sudden completes some passes then the defense shifts, then the run can start. We can not assume either way until we see somethign different. If the plays arent going to change, change the QB see if he can work with it, if he can he’s ur man, if he can’t then you are right its the plays.
Too many variables to determine the exact problem we all know its more than one thing, but it sure might help to change SOMETHING
September 29th, 2009 at 2:44 pm
LAto the Bay,
Do we know he can hang with good teams? Last years Bucs folded like a tent, the Texans really didn’t have anything to play for, and even still they were a 8-8 mediocre team, and the Denver game was the beginning of the epic choke job they did last year.
Other than that, he can barely keep up with bad teams like the Chiefs.
September 29th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
You guys just don’t get it.
Russell isn’t the problem, or at least not the major one. The plays that Cable is calling are different than the ones he did last year.
The Vertical offense, Air Croyell, whatever you want to call it, is not working right now. They’re not running the ball. They’re not being creative.
Of course if I call it like it is, I’m accused of defending Russell and living vicariously through him. That’s nonsense.
Yes, he’s out of shape.
Yes, he has the worst numbers of any NFL QB
Yes, he’s lacking leadership skills.
Dually noted.
But we’ve seen the guy play and know he can hang with good teams.
He, along with any other QB, benefits from run support, which he hasn’t gotten in the last two games.
Players are being misused left and right.
Blame Russell. Please.
But don’t forget to blame everyone else in the organization while you’re at it.
If Russell’s as dumb as you claim, then Tom Cable is retarded.
September 29th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
R8r4life, oh, I kid about him jumping on during the LA years. I just disagree with the notion that this is all Russell’s fault. It’s common since. This football team has sucked since 2003, when JaMarcus Russell was 18 years old and in high school. Talk about being harsh on young people…
September 29th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
Ha ha ha. Common sense, not “since”. Go ahead, guys. I gave you a freebie, there.
September 29th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
I think the idea of ‘getting him “going”‘ early in games is ridiculous.
Like any struggling player, it’s best when the game can come to you, which means solid running game, and high percentage passes to get some momentum. this run, run, bomb is ridiculous.
Come ON Cable, Be YOUR OWN MAN and run the ball!
You’re an O-Line coach for cryin-out-loud!
September 29th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
VanHeathen
I think the idea of ‘getting him “going”‘ early in games is ridiculous.
Like any struggling player, it’s best when the game can come to you, which means solid running game, and high percentage passes to get some momentum. this run, run, bomb is ridiculous.
Come ON Cable, Be YOUR OWN MAN and run the ball!
You’re an O-Line coach for cryin-out-loud!
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Well put.
September 29th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
LA to the Bay, they have to blame Russell to deflect blame from Al Davis. They have to pretend that Russell is at fault for how bad this team is, in order to block out the reality that it’s Al’s fault. This team looks exactly how it’s looked since 2003. It’s common freakin’ since!! COMMON SINCE! You illiterate morons!!
September 29th, 2009 at 2:56 pm
Whom is ready to step up and accept their well earned Wasted Life Award?
September 29th, 2009 at 2:56 pm
Garcia will never come back to the Raiders. When he asked for his release, the feeling was mutual. If they wanted to keep him, they would have. After he was released by the Raiders, no one wanted him until McNabb broke his ribs. Then he was released again. Time has passed him by.
The guy at BSPN that wrote that article is a Donkey lover.
Bill Williamson
Williamson joined ESPN.com in 2008 after four seasons covering the Denver Broncos for the Denver Post. He previously covered the Minnesota Vikings, Green Bay Packers and Seattle Seahawks.
September 29th, 2009 at 2:58 pm
VR
Denver was winning until then.
Houston was the hottest team in the league and had a come-from-behind win against Chicago the next week. They had something to play for called respect.
Monte announced his retirement and TB slumped.
But your argument about a team having nothing to play for doesn’t hold water.
If TB beats the lowly, awful Raiders, they go to the playoffs. Didn’t happen. They fired their head coach for it.
Russell marched ‘em down and threw a TD after a costly pick. Then they rammed it down TB’s throat with Mike Bush.
They were the mpre physical team that day and wanted it more.
That’s what I saw on MNF against SD, just didn’t get the W.
September 29th, 2009 at 2:59 pm
Houston 31-Raiders 13 seabass with a 50 + fieldgoal and a 45 yrd and a 70 yard attempt
September 29th, 2009 at 3:01 pm
TD’s will be tough to come by unless the Raiders attempt to hide their weaknesses and focus on sustaning drives.
Which they most likely won’t….
Houston 23 Raiders 10
September 29th, 2009 at 3:02 pm
The Texans have a weak run defense. In fact they have taken over for us as the worst run defending team in the league averaging, get this, over 200 yards given up on the ground per week. If EVER a team was going to start by running it, this would be the week.
September 29th, 2009 at 3:03 pm
VanHeathen Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
I think the idea of ‘getting him “going”‘ early in games is ridiculous.
Like any struggling player, it’s best when the game can come to you, which means solid running game, and high percentage passes to get some momentum. this run, run, bomb is ridiculous.
Come ON Cable, Be YOUR OWN MAN and run the ball!
You’re an O-Line coach for cryin-out-loud!
^^^^^^^^Exactly!!!
September 29th, 2009 at 3:13 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
Ricky, in reality this time, we’ll try this again. If you think trying “explain” something to me is like talking to your kids, then me explaining something to you is like expecting an intelligent answer from a rock.
RICHOCHET: Oh goody..silly replies.
Lucky me.
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Why would Russell worry about being benched, Ricky?
RICHOCHET: omg..*sigh*..do you get ANYTHING?
WTF? I feel like I’m explaining things to my kids. “Why would he worry”?? OH..I DON’T KNOW..MAYBE BECAUSE HE’S THE WORST QB IN THE LEAGUE? How’s that for starters?
LA-Ok, reality: He has no competition. He knows this. He’s “The Guy.” Everyone knows this. Even YOU know this (congrats on finally knowing something, by the way).
RICHOCHET: I REST MY CASE..damn. That was an ignorant reply. Seriously.
First off, NO, I DON’T KNOW HE’S THE GUY..when did I state that? Fool. I stated HE KEEPS SAYING IT. I think he’s a bust. I think he’s a joke. I think he’s the dead on reason the Raiders are where they are, lost, no identify, and questioning every decision.
You’re saying Russell has no competition? HE’S THE WORST IN THE LEAGUE, you freaking moron. Any college kid can do as bad as Russell. He can’t get any worse..HE ALREADY IS THE WORST.
But..BACK TO THE POINT THAT YOU STUPIDLY REFUSE TO ACCEPT…NO QB WHO PLAYS HORRIBLE SHOULD STATE THEY’RE NOT WORRIED ABOUT GETTING YANKED. No qb who is the WORST should even allude to it.
Yet, here you are, AGAIN, with the stupid ‘why should he worry? He has no competition’?
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Even if he did stink it up, he’s not sweating it. Never did I say that was a good thing. It’s good to be pushed and know you have competition. I do think the guy has ba11s saying that, because obviously it ruffled your little feathers and a lot of other bird brains.
RICHOCHET: ah…you’re a kid. Obviously. ignorant..very ignorant comment. You think he has ‘balls” for saying it? Most would call that ignorance. Most would call that denial. Most would call that suicidal. You? “Ohh..he just said the dumbest frickin’ thing he could state, which has Raider fans booing him, reporters ripping him apart, and players likely doubting his desire, and boy, that took balls”.
More like “head up azz” is what that was. Both of you.
And “ruffled my feathers”?? ROFLMFAO..you idiot..I’M LAUGHING AT YOU..it’s pure fodder..it’s like him painting a bullseye on his forehead, and then, just to make sure no one misses, jamming the arrow in himself.
Yeah, you nitwit..it’s called easy ammo, lol…leave it to you to even screw up that analogy.
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You care if anyone agrees with me or not? If everyone agreed with me, I’d have nothing to say.
Richochet: lol…wasn’t them agreeing..was more of “everyone thinks you make a cotton ball look bright..almost effervescent.
As far as your comment?
You basically just stated “you say stupid things. Others tell you you’re stupid, and detail why. You refuse to accept the detailed report, and continue on with the stupid comments…BECAUSE IT GIVES YOU SOMETHING TO SAY?
Ahhh…got it..the “insecurity” mode of posting.
You just want attention? lol…well…goody for you, little boy.
I guess getting slapped down is ’still attention” right?
Congrats.
September 29th, 2009 at 3:14 pm
LMFAO…Don’t you love the irony of someone stating: “It’s common freakin’ since. COMMON SINCE! You illiterate morons!!” while he can’t even SPELL COMMON SENSE?
“COMMON SINCE”?? What the hell is “common since”?
Classic crap on your own shoe..stating others are MORONS, when you prove beyond a shadow of a doubt you can’t spell cat without being spotted the K and the t, lol…dumbass.
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The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
LA to the Bay, they have to blame Russell to deflect blame from Al Davis. They have to pretend that Russell is at fault for how bad this team is, in order to block out the reality that it’s Al’s fault. This team looks exactly how it’s looked since 2003. It’s common freakin’ since!! COMMON SINCE! You illiterate morons!!
September 29th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
Prognosticators who say Houston by 3 TDs are probably the same who said Raiders over Broncos by about the same margin.
This is why they play the games.
Run to set up the pass and call, high percentage, creative plays, we’ll be OK.
Most of all, we have to punch them in the mouth. Matter of fact, that should be the theme every week.
Week 1: We’re back, we’ll just stop playing prevent.
Week 2: Defense great, Russell’s holding us back.
Week 3: We suck. 3-13.
Chill out.
It’s somewhere in between. There’s no reason we can’t win with the current roster, other than gameplan and preparation. Execution will follow.
September 29th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
Stabler76 Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
Start Bush and just keep giving him the ball.
^^^^^^^^^Agreed….then use DMC in the slot more and has the change of pace back for this next game.
Implement the Wildcat and sustain drives with short to medium passes. Pick the spots when going deep and don’t go deep 30-50% percent of time.
It’s what needs to be done….but Davis, Cable and Tollner won’t do it because of stubborness, ego and stupid pride.
September 29th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
Start Bush and just keep giving him the ball.
September 29th, 2009 at 3:23 pm
LA to thebay:
Week 1: Set the tone. Punch in mouth. We win big
week 2: Not Russell’s fault. He’s doing great. What a guy. He sucked for 58 min. I don’t care. 2 minutes, and my hero’s poster stays on my bedroom wall. Big “mwah to you, you big lug.”
week 3: You da man, Russell. Awesome job getting us in position to get 3 pts. I’ll take that anyday. come ON DEFENSE..do your job. Had you done yours, those 3 pts would have held up.
Signed: La to thebay, AKA “Gumby”
September 29th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
No one reads your posts rack-o. Your team had a devastating loss last week. And you lost your best player. Bad Karma. Your wins have come against teams with a combined 2-4 record. Sure you will win this week, and the record of the teams you have beaten will be 2-10. Did I mention the Whiners bad karma??
September 29th, 2009 at 3:27 pm
Ricky, you must be the most dense MF I’ve ever come across.
Never did I say it was a good thing he has no competition.
When I say “The Guy,” I don’t mean “Great QB,” I mean the guy we’re sticking with, no matter what. I thought that was apparent to the world – but not you. I take back my comment about you finally getting something.
I’ll disregard most of what is in the rest of the post ’cause it drivel.
Who details why I’m stupid? You’re the only one who attempts. Others disagree with me and put up sometimes logical arguments, sometimes not.
It’s not just something to say, stupid, it’s for others to think about.
People posting stuff like ‘Russels dum as a buncha rocks,’ right there just says that THEY are as dumb as a bunch of rocks, because they’re not looking hard enough.
You want to make it all about Russell, as does everyone else. Again, would I rather have Drew Brees? Of course.
But I’ll take Russell over Alex Smith.
Read the real reasoning behind what people say, rather than taking they’re posts out of context so that you can insult.
You didn’t address any of what I said about being a loser and neglecting your family. You address what you think you can ‘get’ someone on.
You’re an ambulance chaser. A used car salesman. A hack.
You think you’re giving people a dose of reality but all you’re really doing is venting and trying to insult people.
September 29th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
You guys just don’t get it.
Russell isn’t the problem, or at least not the major one. The plays that Cable is calling are different than the ones he did last year.
The Vertical offense, Air Croyell, whatever you want to call it, is not working right now. They’re not running the ball. They’re not being creative.
Of course if I call it like it is, I’m accused of defending Russell and living vicariously through him. That’s nonsense.
Yes, he’s out of shape.
Yes, he has the worst numbers of any NFL QB
Yes, he’s lacking leadership skills.
Dually noted.
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LA,
I think a lot of us do get it! It’s just that enough is enough, bruh!
Yes, Russell is the problem. Blessing and a curse, if you will. His “upside” has the organization in a flux. Al Davis wants badly to see his beloved vertical offense work again in his time. THAT, my friend is the problem. Russell is part of the problem because he has that big arm that keeps this illusion going. Same with Andrew Walter, Kerry Collins, and every other big armed QB. In the big picture, sure it’s not Jamarcus. We’ve all seen flashes and we know about the coaching issues, the oline, and all that. None of it matters man!
At this point, I am all for Gradkowski simply because he DOESN’T have that big arm. He is NOT Jamarcus Russell, so maybe we can get on to a REAL playbook, ya know! I really don’t see this vertical offense working even when Chaz gets back.
I was COMPLETELY WRONG about Cable, and I will be the firt one to admit it. You are right! He IS NOT calling the same plays and formations he called at the end of last year. That was Kiffin and Knapp’s playbook that they were using last year, right! Well I think we can all see the difference, and this is BULLSHYT!
September 29th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
# Stabler76 Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
Start Bush and just keep giving him the ball.
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Seems like a very sound strategy to me.
September 29th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
Richochet = jaded
September 29th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
aside from the Raiders’ defensive goal line stance; I do not have anything positive to say about the Raiders and their play versus Denver either.
September 29th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
This is NOT bs.
If you combine La to thebay, Oakglenn, and maddenraider, do you believe those 3 combined could stand up without support?
I don’t think there’s enough spine..even combined.
Just my observation, lol.
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The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 2:55 pm It’s common freakin’ since!! COMMON SINCE! You illiterate morons!!
LA to TheBay Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 2:14 pm If everyone agreed with me, I’d have nothing to say.
September 29th, 2009 at 1:45pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says: I’d still take Garcia. It would be kind of nice to see Jeffy running around in tight pants again.
September 29th, 2009 at 3:37 pm
Richochet, you mean it’s not spelled common since? Darn.
September 29th, 2009 at 3:38 pm
Week 1: Whole team played hard, came up short
Week 2: Offense played awful, defense played well. Got lucky
Week 3: Whole team played like sht, came up waaay short.
See, Ricky? Reality is an interesting concept.
My hero? You truly are an idiot.
Because I tell people they’re missing the big picture and that it’s not all Russell, he’s my hero?
Go tell your kids their dad is a loser who posts about the Raiders, a team he claims to hate, all day on the internet.
Are you serious? What kind of role model are you? You call me a kid and you insult people on an internet blog, calling them peanuts and pumkins and such? Don’t be surprised if one of your little boogers takes after you and insults the wrong kid on the playground and gets his nose broken.
“Sorry, son, I should have told you, it’s better to insult on the internet. No one sees you, knows who you are, and they can’t break your nose. Trust dear old dad.”
September 29th, 2009 at 3:40 pm
The only chance JRuss has here in Oakland is to go through a Vince Young/Matt Lienart type of benching. He needs to ride this Cable BS out on the bench, and wait for Gruden, Cowher, Del Rio, or Fisher to come on board.
The one thing that REALLY pisses me off about Jamarcus is his inablity or unwillingness to check into a play that will back these fools off of him. So what Cable is calling nothing but 15 yd patterns for the WRs with no underneath stuff! Don’t you have a frickin audible you can call for DHB or Murphy to run a quick slant or crossing pattern? How about simply observing what’s working for other guys and try that?
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! I’m cool! It’s all good! Yadayadayada!
September 29th, 2009 at 3:40 pm
Raider Headbutt Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
I think we should trade our 1st rnd and get a lower 1st and 2nd from some1 and draft Ciron Black-LSU, nice OT to start building or Oline
^^^^^^Yep TRADING DOWN is SMART….but we know the NUT Al Davis doesn’t do that because he is a NUTCASE!….Ciron could be plugged in at RT right away!
Raiders can’t afford to be paying top 10 unproven talent BIG money anymore….SERIOUSLY!
September 29th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
Houston 26 Raiders 13
September 29th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
I think we should trade our 1st rnd and get a lower 1st and 2nd from some1 and draft Ciron Black-LSU, nice OT to start building or Oline
September 29th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
Gawd, people start talking about next years draft earlier and earlier these days. As if, everything will be ok then. sheesh.
The Organization is garbage. No player is the answer to the Raiders problems.
I’ve been saying this for 6 years. Same ole same ole dysfunction, and people want to talk about next years draft???????????
September 29th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
JaPoatroast has gotta go
dmac will be alright
dhb who knows to early
cable he’s gotta go
al davis needs to scede control.
September 29th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
Jhill.
I think you get it. We don’t agree on everything, but you, along with several others here, have legitimate arguments and credible information to back it up.
You’re right that none of the flashes mean anything. Nada.
I’d like to see what we’d look like right now with last year’s playbook.
Gradkowski and Frye can’t throw 60 yards and that’s why Russell is “The Guy” along with 32 million other reasons.
No one is off the hook, in my book, and no one is safe. But it’s not my book. It’s Al’s
September 29th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
The thing that concerns me going into the Houston game is our defense. Are we going to make the adjustment that keeps Routt and the LBs off of Houston’s wideouts?
Is Shaub going to have all day to throw like Orton did?
Are going to need the offense to score at least 27 pts to win, just like the SD and Den games?
September 29th, 2009 at 3:45 pm
Kell the only reason I am talking draft is basically because we can’t keep taking picks in the top 10, we arent gonna have enough money to pay these guys, move lower and get ur position and based on our draft results the last decade it doesnt matter where they are picked anyway
September 29th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
Gradkowski and Frye can’t throw 60 yards and that’s why Russell is “The Guy” along with 32 million other reasons.
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I’m more of a methodical, take it down the field guy. That quick strike bomb crap is a killer for TOP.
Honestly, I’d rather see Gradkowski finish the year. JRuss has the talent to mop these fools all over the place. Put the kid on the bench and see if he wants it. The shyt is so ass backwards! They should have signed Garcia Russell’s rookie year and looked to play Russell year 2 or 3. Russell was young coming out of college AND he didn’t run a pro system at LSU. All these things they are trying to work on now shoul have been done 2 years ago. Since they are just now starting the lessons now, and his head is obviously all messsed up, let him sit and learn!
And that damn Brohawk is AWFUL! You are the F’ing face man, grow the hell up! NOW!
September 29th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
Richochet, can you at least say at the beginning of your comment that you’re responding to me? I can’t find my cut and pasted comments in your encyclopedia sized posts.
September 29th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
Richochet, why not just cut and paste all of my comments that I’ve ever made here, and respond to all of them, in one single post? I know you can do it.
September 29th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
priest, who drafted McFadden?
September 29th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
DMac should be a slot WR, Period. He’s not a NFL caliber “run between the tackles” RB. He goes down to easily and is not built for banging. He’s built for speed and running in the open. The simple answer for him is make him the slot receiver and throw him the ball.
The RB’s should be Bush, Fargas & Rankin, assuming we get him back.
September 29th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
All I have to say is that Darren McFadden is driving me to drink. Stop stumbling over your own feet, stop slipping down with 50 yards of pay dirt ahead of you. And damnit stop fumbling in every key situation.
This kid is TOOO DAMN TALENTED for this kind of crap. And he can help us and we NEED him NOW. The running game has got to come to life the passing game has to far to go…………period
September 29th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
rack-ette is obviously a very frustrated romance novelist. Don’t worry tho rack-ette, your team has bad karma and it will fall apart at the most inoportune time. (See Giants, SF)
September 29th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
priesttj Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
All I have to say is that Darren McFadden is driving me to drink. Stop stumbling over your own feet, stop slipping down with 50 yards of pay dirt ahead of you. And damnit stop fumbling in every key situation.
This kid is TOOO DAMN TALENTED for this kind of crap. And he can help us and we NEED him NOW. The running game has got to come to life the passing game has to far to go…………period
^^^^^^^^Hmmm….I wonder what that short stubby Penguin looking mother f’r RB coach Skipper is doing??!!
Is he even coaching and teaching these guys to stay lower and use their vision adn to protect the football??
I wish Tom Rathman was still the RB coach!
Sheesh!
September 29th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 3:27 pm
Ricky, you must be the most dense MF I’ve ever come across.
Never did I say it was a good thing he has no competition.
When I say “The Guy,” I don’t mean “Great QB,” I mean the guy we’re sticking with, no matter what. I thought that was apparent to the world – but not you. I take back my comment about you finally getting something.
I’ll disregard most of what is in the rest of the post ’cause it drivel.
Who details why I’m stupid? You’re the only one who attempts. Others disagree with me and put up sometimes logical arguments, sometimes not.
It’s not just something to say, stupid, it’s for others to think about.
People posting stuff like ‘Russels dum as a buncha rocks,’ right there just says that THEY are as dumb as a bunch of rocks, because they’re not looking hard enough.
You want to make it all about Russell, as does everyone else. Again, would I rather have Drew Brees? Of course.
But I’ll take Russell over Alex Smith.
Read the real reasoning behind what people say, rather than taking they’re posts out of context so that you can insult.
You didn’t address any of what I said about being a loser and neglecting your family. You address what you think you can ‘get’ someone on.
You’re an ambulance chaser. A used car salesman. A hack.
You think you’re giving people a dose of reality but all you’re really doing is venting and trying to insult people.
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Stop. You don’t get it. you will never get it. You have it explained and you STILL don’t get it. You’re either one slow dense pathetically ignorant soul, or you’re a spineless ball-less little coward who refuses to admit when he’s wrong.
You whine about me not addressing some silly little insult about my family? lol..but then state ‘I’m not going to comment on other things you said because it’s drivel’? See what I mean? It’s like you’re a defenseless baby. You can’t even realize when you contradict yourself.
You state “Who says I’m stupid”, forgetting you just posted “everyone here is ignorant”
Hey, you are right about one thing..I am laughing at you.
Hard not to, dude. You’re like a sitting duck.
September 29th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
DMac should be a slot WR, Period. He’s not a NFL caliber “run between the tackles” RB. He goes down to easily and is not built for banging. He’s built for speed and running in the open. The simple answer for him is make him the slot receiver and throw him the ball.
The RB’s should be Bush, Fargas & Rankin, assuming we get him back.
September 29th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
LOL!
Where is Dakota? We need to start tracking some of these name …
JaPotRoast ????
LOL!
How much time are you guys spending on this? Some of these are pretty good!
September 29th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
Tom Cable, please note the following on how to handle personnel not performing to standard:
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PITTSBURGH — Steelers receiver Limas Sweed may have dropped his way onto the bench.
Pittsburgh coach Mike Tomlin said Tuesday he may deactivate Sweed, the team’s second-round pick last year, for Sunday night’s game against the San Diego Chargers (2-1).
“Absolutely,” Tomlin said at his weekly news conference when asked if he was considering benching Sweed in favor of veteran Shaun McDonald.
Limas Sweed, WR
Pittsburgh Steelers
2009 Statistics
Receptions: 1
Yards: 5
Touchdowns: 0
Sweed had one catch for 5 yards and dropped a pass in the end zone in the third quarter on Sunday as the defending Super Bowl champions fell to 1-2 with a 23-20 loss to the Cincinnati Bengals (2-1). Sweed, who missed the previous game with a foot injury, has a history of dropped passes in his young career — most famously a drop while wide open during last season’s AFC Championship Game.
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This is how a real HC handles non-performers. a pretty simple and straightforward approach.
September 29th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
Jhill, I want to acknowledge that yes, Denver was using it’s base defense and shutting down our run game. You are right about that.
September 29th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
priesttj Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
All I have to say is that Darren McFadden is driving me to drink. Stop stumbling over your own feet, stop slipping down with 50 yards of pay dirt ahead of you. And damnit stop fumbling in every key situation.
This kid is TOOO DAMN TALENTED for this kind of crap. And he can help us and we NEED him NOW. The running game has got to come to life the passing game has to far to go…………period
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Not like this is new.
Two knocks in college was fumbling (sometimes open field, no one around) too much..and easily went down once touched, rarely driving for extra yards, or trying to break free.
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The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 2:55 pm It’s common freakin’ since!! COMMON SINCE! You illiterate morons!!
LA to TheBay Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 2:14 pm If everyone agreed with me, I’d have nothing to say.
September 29th, 2009 at 1:45pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says: I’d still take Garcia. It would be kind of nice to see Jeffy running around in tight pants again.
September 29th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
302 nd!!!! yes.. okay . gannon sukied in da superbowl cus th eraiders shoulda ran ran ran against that defense. then throw over the middle deep/ anyway. j russ. is usleless unless he grows up. wut a stupid chuhbby bum . he is an embarassment to the raider greats.
September 29th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
Richochet, for $20 I’ll read one of your entire cut and paste comments.
September 29th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
Tom Cable, please note the following on how to handle personnel not performing to standard:
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PITTSBURGH — Steelers receiver Limas Sweed may have dropped his way onto the bench.
Pittsburgh coach Mike Tomlin said Tuesday he may deactivate Sweed, the team’s second-round pick last year, for Sunday night’s game against the San Diego Chargers (2-1).
“Absolutely,” Tomlin said at his weekly news conference when asked if he was considering benching Sweed in favor of veteran Shaun McDonald.
Limas Sweed, WR
Pittsburgh Steelers
2009 Statistics
Receptions: 1
Yards: 5
Touchdowns: 0
Sweed had one catch for 5 yards and dropped a pass in the end zone in the third quarter on Sunday as the defending Super Bowl champions fell to 1-2 with a 23-20 loss to the Cincinnati Bengals (2-1). Sweed, who missed the previous game with a foot injury, has a history of dropped passes in his young career — most famously a drop while wide open during last season’s AFC Championship Game.
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This is how a real HC handles non-performers. a pretty simple and straightforward approach. Why don’t you try it?
September 29th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
Tom Cable, please note the following on how to handle personnel not performing to standard:
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PITTSBURGH — Steelers receiver Limas Sweed may have dropped his way onto the bench.
Pittsburgh coach Mike Tomlin said Tuesday he may deactivate Sweed, the team’s second-round pick last year, for Sunday night’s game against the San Diego Chargers (2-1).
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Do you really believe Tom Cable has the power to bench Russell or Bey? really?
I can See Al Nation working. Shyt rolls downhill. Blame everyone else but the management.
September 29th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
Watching the Denver game tape, one real bright spot is Mike Mitchell! Mitchell had a very good game.
September 29th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
JB, Tom Cable doesn’t have the authority to bench a player. He’s only an assistant coach.
September 29th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
JB, Tom Cable doesn’t have the authority to bench a player. He’s only an assistant coach.
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Can’t argue with you there. LOL
September 29th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
jhill Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
Gradkowski and Frye can’t throw 60 yards and that’s why Russell is “The Guy” along with 32 million other reasons.
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I’m more of a methodical, take it down the field guy. That quick strike bomb crap is a killer for TOP.
Honestly, I’d rather see Gradkowski finish the year. JRuss has the talent to mop these fools all over the place. Put the kid on the bench and see if he wants it. The shyt is so ass backwards! They should have signed Garcia Russell’s rookie year and looked to play Russell year 2 or 3. Russell was young coming out of college AND he didn’t run a pro system at LSU. All these things they are trying to work on now shoul have been done 2 years ago. Since they are just now starting the lessons now, and his head is obviously all messsed up, let him sit and learn!
And that damn Brohawk is AWFUL! You are the F’ing face man, grow the hell up! NOW!
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Well put.
September 29th, 2009 at 4:10 pm
garcia just got cut, bring him back!!!!
September 29th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
Oakglenn Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
Jhill, I want to acknowledge that yes, Denver was using it’s base defense and shutting down our run game. You are right about that.
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It’s all good Oak. It’s easy to miss stuff at first glance. Watching it a 2nd time with DVR rewind helps a lot.
There have been no 8, 9, or 10 man fronts people!
What makes you think this offense needs something like that to stop it? Our Oline consists of Eric Pears, Chris Morris, Cooper Carlisle, and Cornbread with my Greens! If you were a DC, would you feel the need to stack the box against that Oline?
You gotta be kidding me!
I keep trying to tell you guys this thing is NOT going to get fixed by bringing in another QB if we keep this bed and breakfast offense! It might even get worse!
September 29th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
Next year’s draft needs:
OLT – move super Marion to ORT
C
ORG
DT
MLB
OT – for back-up
C – for back-up
DT – for back-up
JaBeefRoll can remain QB as long as all he does, 85% of the time, just hand the ball off.
We need to rebuild the lines – that’s where most games are won.
September 29th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
You state “Who says I’m stupid”, forgetting you just posted “everyone here is ignorant”
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That makes no sense, nor is it accurate.
No one said I’m stupid, other than you, and you have zero credibility.
I said many people here aren’t getting it because they don’t bother to look.
I won’t respond to drivel, meaning the nonsense. Its a strain on the eyes as is to read your sorry posts.
“Hey, you are right about one thing..I am laughing at you.” You pulled that right out of your @$$, along with an assortment of other toys inserted by your buddy Alex Smith.
Again, what do you tell your kids? “I’m a loser ambulance chaser, tail-in-between my legs pu$$y who tries to clown Raider fans on the internet.”
You think I’m sorry?
Have your opinion. I know the real deal and that’s good enough for me.
I’m out, Nation.
Be good.
September 29th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
JB, Tom Cable doesn’t have the authority to bench a player. He’s only an assistant coach.
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Is he even that MR?
I mean, the craziest part of all of this madness HAS to be the tidbit from Hanson lawyer that the players are still interacting with him behind Cable’s back. I’m really considering the source, but if this is remotely true, so you guys realize what that says?
The train is definitely coming off the tracks folks! Brace yourselves, or your are really going to be in for something!
September 29th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
Next year’s draft needs:
OLT – move super Marion to ORT
C
ORG
DT
MLB
OT – for back-up
C – for back-up
DT – for back-up
JaBeefRoll can remain QB as long as all he does, 85% of the time, just hand the ball off.
We need to rebuild the lines – that’s where most games are won.
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Please fix this blog so it posts in proper order instead of 4 minutes before the one you are responding to. Just reset the damn clocks on your servers.
September 29th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
Krappy, terrific job on the cut and pasting. That is a really interesting point you made and it was reinforced with that clip from another article. Brilliant, Krappy. Brilliant.
You see, Raider fans young and old, this is what happens when one’s head spends too much time being baked in the microwave.
Or, in lil Ricky’s case, when you beer bong Monster Energy Drinks mixed with crack.
Avoid becoming a cut and paste casualty today! Your underwear – and blood pressure – will thank you tomorrow.
September 29th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
Grasshopper, to become with one with the Raiders, one must first learn to accept the Raiders as they are.
Would one drink stout beer and whine about the foam?
September 29th, 2009 at 4:23 pm
I didn’t see Mike Mitchell do a thing. Not saying he didn’t, just saying I didn’t notice.
Hey Oak, when did Mitchell get in the game?
September 29th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
JaGarbage Russell is just that! The excuses are over! This rookie WR crap is BS to most degree’s! The Guy is crap plain and simple.
Gannon is totally correct as usual! He should Be our HC when AL davis dies. Russell has the I.Q. and passion of Rotten Squash! Kiffen was ran out of town because he didn’t want Russell. Gannon was banned (tried too anyway) because He was critical of JaGarbage! You have Raider fans fighting each other in the name of Russell! This Puke has had the protection of the Government! Enough already! Admit this rebo is as dumb as any player in NFL History. If I read another Raider fan type that We need Vick i’m going to puke! The same idiots that say that are the same morons that wanted Russell instead of Peterson! Kiffen wanted Peterson badly, How right he was to want that. All of the great players Davis passed up in the draft, and he drafts this LENNY “OF MICE AND MEN”. Just think Al Davis had to interview Jagarbage before drafting Him! He still drafted Him!!!! My GOD! how dumb do you have to be?
The only thing jagarbage is more inaccurate in is putting two words together. Even for the raiders this guy is horrible. thats saying a lot.
I will not put my money out there to this puke! We pay this guy to do this! he is laughing at all raiders fans because we got suckered yet again!
Wake me up when We have a SMART QB! Until then I will be hybernating with the bears.
September 29th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
Jhill
I remember Mitchell being involved with both stops on the goal line in that first series of the game. He also recovered a fumble that Gerard Warren created.
September 29th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
You guys were right about that 2nd int thrown by JRuss. Champ Bailey ran right into him coming out of the break, which should have been a flag. Hard to tell if he would have been able to get to that ball, but it without question should have been a flag.
The first INT was not PI. Their legs just got tangled up, and unfortuantely DHB went down.
Tough breaks. But being down 10-0 at home should NOT mean the game is over!
September 29th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
Plunketthead Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
Grasshopper, to become with one with the Raiders, one must first learn to accept the Raiders as they are.
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What are the Raiders?
September 29th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
Naw, I haven’t seen the live chat, yet. Very few people are all bad, Dogg.
September 29th, 2009 at 4:30 pm
KK
Did you notice that I gave you props earlier in the live chat? See, I’m not all bad
September 29th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
The first int was NOT PI. That ball never should have been thrown. The 2nd one, the crowd goes nuts and the boos rain down on Russell and that was not Russell’s fault. Would it have been caught?? Debatable. Bailey clearly leaves his man and throws a shoulder into DHB throwing him off his route. No call. Youngsters have to learn not to let the opponents do that. Denver was doing that all day to the Raiders, and to the Raiders credit they did not respond. Other than when Seymour TOOK IT to Clady. That was sweet. 15 yard penalty on Seymour.
September 29th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
OK !!!!
Thanks Dogg!
That’s good to hear. Maybe we won’t see Routt’s punk ass out there anymore!
September 29th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
What are the Raiders?
KK they play football in the NFL, Als team
September 29th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
GAWD DAMN that 2nd McFadden fumble was a killer. We were MARCHING down the field and his backwards fumble created a 3rd and 16! The score was 10-0 early in the second half and we were clearly on our way to a score.
But as usual, we get in our own F’ing way more often than not. That shyt is just as bad as what JRuss is doing. That just kills the team, man!
September 29th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
jhill Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 4:23 pm
I didn’t see Mike Mitchell do a thing. Not saying he didn’t, just saying I didn’t notice.
Hey Oak, when did Mitchell get in the game?
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I first noticed him on the first drive on the goalline. On the 3rd down play, he filled the hole and pushed back the pile and the runner. OK, I think it was Lamont Jordan but still I was impressed.
Also hopped in that pile and came away with the ball on the fumble. The kid seems comfortable to compete a helluva lot more than DHB.
September 29th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
Mitchell got in the game early and like Dogg said, he was crucial on the lst goal line stand making the 3rd and 4th down assists. He recovered the fumble which was pried loose by Gerard Warren, and then later in the game blew up a Moreno run by throwing off his blocker, while Branch came in and cleaned up. That Saved another TD. Was in on some nice coverage as well on the Denver TE’s and receivers. I was QUITE impressed at the job that guy did.
September 29th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
i have a question
why does felix jones look so good compared to dmac ??
he was his back up wasn’t he
i have another question
why do flacco ryan stafford sanchez all look so good compared to JaPoatroast
i have another question
why does percy harvin look better than dhb
i have another question
why does McDaniels look so much better than cable
I HAVE A MILLION MORE QUESTIONS BUT I WILL STOP THERE I GUESS
September 29th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
1)Feliz plays for a winning (regular season) team that pushes people around the field.
2) Because they came out of College ready to play and they might be better now then JR will ever be.
3)Percy plays for a winning team that pushes people around the field.
4)McDaniels may be a better coach, time will tell but mc took over a pretty dam good team while Cable is dealing with a real crappy hand.
Youre welcome!
September 29th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
Oakglenn, face it. The team is not focused anymore. That’s all I saw watching the stream last night. I’m seeing a different team than I saw in the previous two weeks. Different level of intensity. Note: We looked like a new team until this Davis/Gannon fiasco. Suddenly, we look like the old Raiders, on BOTH sides of the ball. Think the Gannon distraction, unnecessarily created by Davis, had any effect on practice the previous week?
September 29th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
The D-Mac “flop” is even more frustrating than Russell to me. QB’s can blame a lot of things on other things: coaching turnover, bad play-calling, bad blocking, and on and on.
Being a RB you don’t get those excuses, and rarely does it take time for good RB’s to “develop”. Certainly they get better, but look at all the great ones, years 1 or at worst 2, they are rushing for 1200+ yards, sometimes on bad teams with crappy blocking.
D-Mac just doesn’t have “it”. He may be serviceable, and certainly could be utilized a lot better than he is, but when has he had his, “DAMN that is why he was the #4 pick moment”? I have never seen him break more than one tackle, and in Jerry’s chat I think he said that besides the KC game, the most yards he has had from scrimmage in a game is 87 yards.
That is laughable.
September 29th, 2009 at 4:45 pm
I WILL ADMITT MITCHEL DID LOOK LIKE HE’S GOING TO BE GOOD. BUT AS WE KNOW LOOKS CAN BE DECIEVING
September 29th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
Wassup Vegas.
Well at least it’s not all bad out of the draft. Huff, Mitchell, and Branch seem to have the S position to a point where we won’t draft one next year.
Very disappointed to hear about Bowie’s knee. I bet Routt fell on it!
September 29th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
i before c except after c
September 29th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
Richochet Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
Being in the bay area, and watching both Raider and Niner games, one thing is blatantly obvious.
Having a good HC makes a HUGE difference.
You look at Singletary, and you look at Cable, and it’s amzing the difference.
the niner players respect Singletary. The listen to Singletary. The want to perform for him. Not because he’s a hall of fame player, but because of the way he leads.
He kicks ass when he has to.
He compliments when it’s warranted.
And he demands the best out of each and every player, each and every play.
Cable?
The guy is a tree stump. Has he EVER gotten in a players face? Has he EVER made a player worry about mistakes? Has he ever shown any emotion, except for jumping up and down like a baffoon when he threw a red flag?
Poster above hit it on the head. Cable should have gotten in Russell’s face, AND CRAPPED DOWN HIS NECK..and made it clear “THAT’S UNACCEPTABLE”.
Instead, HE DEFENDS HIM. Let’s him know “We’re cool”.
Because Cable is a puppet. A pathetic, inept puppet.
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Cant believe im sayin this, but i absolutely agree with you richochet. I still don’t like you though.
September 29th, 2009 at 4:50 pm
Nahhhh …
Not this year, Vegas! Not with our new GM Randy Hanson running the show!
September 29th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
This posting in the past stuff is right up there with the Raider performances!
jhill Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 4:50 pm
Nahhhh …
Not this year, Vegas! Not with our new GM Randy Hanson running the show!
September 29th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
i have a question
why does felix jones look so good compared to dmac ??
he was his back up wasn’t he
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Dallas has one of the biggest lines in the League and a passing game. (sort of…)
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i have another question
why do flacco ryan stafford sanchez all look so good compared to JaPoatroast
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Flacco’s team has one of the best defense in the game and Derrick Mason.
Ryan has one of the best running games and Tony Gonzales and Roddy White
Stafford’s got Calvin Johnson and hasn’t looked THAT great 3 games into his career.
Sanchez has a solid O line Thomas Jones and an emerging D.
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i have another question
why does percy harvin look better than dhb
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Percy’s an all around guy and is getting more involved in games. DHB may be, like all of Oaklands other weapons, is being under utilized.
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i have another question
why does McDaniels look so much better than cable
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Mike Nolan and the emerging 3-4. Plus what appears to be a solid looking O line anchored by 1st RD DP Ryan Clady and a veteran center at the most important position in the ZBS.
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I HAVE A MILLION MORE QUESTIONS BUT I WILL STOP THERE I GUESS
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Hope that helps…PLUS Davis’s system MAY be dated and the players he picks are athletes not footballers.
His theory is football is simple. If your guys are better, stronger, faster and you execute, you should win.
We need some football players…
Seymour’s a start…
September 29th, 2009 at 4:54 pm
Vegas Raider:
Right on about DMC. Whats to learn at this level? Run and break tackles. He looks like he’s looking for any contact so he can sprawl to the ground.
I want FIRE! I want passion! I want WINS!!!
September 29th, 2009 at 4:54 pm
What’s happening J?
The S position looks set, but don’t it put past Al to take a DB in the draft.
With the #8 pick the Oakland Raiders select…….Syd’Quan Thompson, DB, Cal.
Don’t kill the messenger.
September 29th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
before e dernit
September 29th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
Mitchell looks good in very limited action. he got playing time when Branch went out for little while, but he’s been in on special teams and fill in later ingames. Always around the ball…
September 29th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
339. Gawd I hope your WRONG! lol!
THIS DRAFT we need linemen dambit!
September 29th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
Texans Head Coach Gary Kubiak, on the Raiders defense:
“They’re a very good defensive team, and they’re very simple but good.”–Raiderbeat.com
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Simple kind of say’s it all, doesn’t it?
September 29th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
Vegas
I would be ok if we drafted LB Brandon Spikes from Florida. Just wanted to put that out there.
How has Rey Maululuga(sp) been so far this year? I haven’t heard his name much this year. Maybe he’s banged up…
September 29th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
We need to trade our upcoming #1 pick for a player and that 2011 #1 back.
We need a solid offensive lineman to replace Green or Carlisle. A real blue collar, hard nosed, ugly muthafugga. A Seymour type acquistion for the Oline that will get all these young guys together like JRuss, DMac, Bush, DHB, Murphy, Henderson, and Morris and just kick them in the arse!
September 29th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
Plunketthead Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
Grasshopper, to become with one with the Raiders, one must first learn to accept the Raiders as they are.
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What are the Raiders?
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Al Davis’s bass akwards football scheme and a bunch of young guys learing to play “man” football.
September 29th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
that i strue. rich gannon did have two of the greatest recieveers to ever play football. and a brutal offensive line. a tough defense and a west coast offense .sooo.. ?
September 29th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
Here UP I will do my best to answer some of these the best I can.
# UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
why does felix jones look so good compared to dmac ??
he was his back up wasn’t he
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I have to be honest here. I have been REALLY DISAPPOINTED with Dmac. I actually wanted Sedrick Ellis who has played very very well for New Orleans. I personally think Dmac cost us the Denver game with THREE, COUNT ‘EM, THREE, fumbles in that game, losing one. Dmac fumbled about as many times in the Denver game, as Fargas fumbled ALL LAST YEAR.
why do flacco ryan stafford sanchez all look so good compared to JaPoatroast
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I have answered this question a ton of times in here. Flacco’s team was 13-3 the year before he was drafted. Ryan’s team went to the NFC Championship Game 3 three years before he was drafted, The Jets traded up to get Sanchez but the Jets have won 10 games twice in the last four years. Stafford threw three pix in his first game, so tough to judge him. Russell has had two head coaches, three different play callers, and now is playing with two ROOKIE wide outs. Peyton Manning has had ONE, ONE!!, Play caller his entire career! Think any of those things make a difference?
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why does percy harvin look better than dhb
DHB is a project. A major project. DHB looks like a deer in the headlights out there. I was actually hoping Harvin would somehow fall to us at the top of the 2nd round. No such luck. The issue with DHB, and Murphy, and I have to agree with Al Davis on this, is what happens if we bring in “Jivin”, Jeff Garcia, and say Marvin Harrison, and we win 9 games. Then what?? We are going to be in the EXACT SAME BOAT, we were in when Gruden had a bunch of aged veterans on this team 6 years ago. Play the youngsters, and take your lumps. It’s the right strategy.
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why does McDaniels look so much better than cable
McDaniels has Daniel Graham (8 year vet) and former lst round pick of NE as his TE, 4th year player Brandon Marshall, 8 year vet Jabar Gaffney one of Brady’s favorite guys, and 11 year vet Brandon Stokely. He has Ryan Clady maybe the best young tackle in the game, and his RT is pretty good too. Kyle Orton is in his 5th year, and Correll Buckhalter averaged 5 yards a carry the last two seasons in Philly.
We on the other hand, have two WR’s who have exactly 6 COMBINED MORE NFL STARTS THAN I DO!! We have 2 running backs with about 10 career starts, and a Q with 19 career starts or basically slightly over one years worth of starting.
September 29th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
346. Yeah, Maluaga’s dinged. Hamstring and groin issues…
September 29th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
Dogg,
I have a man-crush on Spikes, I was begging for him to come out last year, and I think he would have been the 2nd LB taken.
Please make it happen!!!!!!!
We need more Gator “swagger” on this team. I don’t think it is any coincidence that Murphy is balling and yelling at teammates demanding more. Being a Gator demands better, and that never leaves you.
Rey-Rey is playing, the Bengals are playing better, but his stats aren’t that great. I’ve been keeping a greater interest in the Bengals after the whole Hard Knocks deal, he only had 3 tackles last week, but they supposedly love him out there.
September 29th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
Oakglenn Says:
The issue with DHB, and Murphy, and I have to agree with Al Davis on this, is what happens if we bring in “Jivin”, Jeff Garcia, and say Marvin Harrison, and we win 9 games. Then what?? We are going to be in the EXACT SAME BOAT, we were in when Gruden had a bunch of aged veterans on this team 6 years ago. Play the youngsters, and take your lumps. It’s the right strategy.
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Sorry but I disagree here. I see what you mean by we are in the same boat with the young guys but we would have young guys with SOME NFL experience behind 2 vets that can actually guide them, something that we be good for development of the young guys and not put soo much pressure on them. Not saying those 2 players would actually lead to 9 wins but hypothetically saying they did, thats what would be best for the team.
September 29th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
348. Pretty much Oakglenn
September 29th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
tazZraider Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
Richochet Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
Being in the bay area, and watching both Raider and Niner games, one thing is blatantly obvious.
Having a good HC makes a HUGE difference.
You look at Singletary, and you look at Cable, and it’s amzing the difference.
the niner players respect Singletary. The listen to Singletary. The want to perform for him. Not because he’s a hall of fame player, but because of the way he leads.
He kicks ass when he has to.
He compliments when it’s warranted.
And he demands the best out of each and every player, each and every play.
Cable?
The guy is a tree stump. Has he EVER gotten in a players face? Has he EVER made a player worry about mistakes? Has he ever shown any emotion, except for jumping up and down like a baffoon when he threw a red flag?
Poster above hit it on the head. Cable should have gotten in Russell’s face, AND CRAPPED DOWN HIS NECK..and made it clear “THAT’S UNACCEPTABLE”.
Instead, HE DEFENDS HIM. Let’s him know “We’re cool”.
Because Cable is a puppet. A pathetic, inept puppet.
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Cant believe im sayin this, but i absolutely agree with you richochet. I still don’t like you though.
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Ouch.
You big meany
September 29th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
J,
Greater need on O-line RT or C?
As bad as Cornell Green is with the penalties, he is a decent run-blocker. Not saying we shouldn’t replace him, but the next guy is going to have to be a pretty good run-blocker to be an impovement in that regard.
But you can’t be good for 2 penalties a week and keep a job in the NFL. Not unless you are great like Flozell Adams.
September 29th, 2009 at 5:06 pm
Vegas
I agree whole heartedly about Murphy. He is still used to winning. He may be the steal of the draft as a 4th rounder. I just hope he keeps that fire throughout all of this.
September 29th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
Put in Schilen’s and Walker and I’ll bet Russell’s stats go up.
If not, holy carp…
September 29th, 2009 at 5:09 pm
1 Jake Long
2 Chris Long
3 Matt Ryan
4 Darren McFadden
5 Glenn Dorsey
6 Vernon Gholston
7 Sedrick Ellis
8 Derrick Harvey
9 Keith Rivers
10 Jerod Mayo
11 Leodis McKelvin
12 Ryan Clady
13 Jonathan Stewart
14 Chris Williams
15 Branden Albert
September 29th, 2009 at 5:09 pm
Little ricky – your claim that crabtree was going to be great was solely based on the accolades he got in colllege. Mcfadden was just as highly recognized for his college production. He was a two time Doak Walker award winner given to the best RB in college as well as a heisman finalist. The guy can ball. He is guilty of trying to do too much, twisting and turning for every extra yard. Marcus Allen did the same thing his first two years in the NFL . Mcfadden has to learn to carry the ball like Tiki barber did. He will be fine…
September 29th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
Oakglenn, face it. The team is not focused anymore. That’s all I saw watching the stream last night. I’m seeing a different team than I saw in the previous two weeks. Different level of intensity. Note: We looked like a new team until this Davis/Gannon fiasco. Suddenly, we look like the old Raiders, on BOTH sides of the ball. Think the Gannon distraction, unnecessarily created by Davis, had any effect on practice the previous week?
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MR yes and no. I think you are right about the team not being focused. (you know, I don’t ever think I’ve called you right before.) Just kidding. They did NOT have good days of practice on Thurs and Fri. I don’t think the Gannon fiasco had anything to do with it. I think they played a very poor game in KC and still won. They then thought they could just sleep walk thru a Denver team poised for a fall. Well, that doesn’t happen in the NFL. Denver came out focused and determined to beat our ass. And they did. Soundly. They say that losses motivate teams more than wins. Let’s hope that’s the case this week.
September 29th, 2009 at 5:14 pm
4 Darren McFadden
5 Glenn Dorsey
6 Vernon Gholston
7 Sedrick Ellis
8 Derrick Harvey
9 Keith Rivers
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Yuck!!!! Has there ever been a worse #4-9?
I couldn’t imagine so.
September 29th, 2009 at 5:14 pm
Is JaLoser still going to be the King of Marde Gras next year? That would be a great kick in the nuts to us fans, after he leads us to a 1-15 season. Party up fatman!
September 29th, 2009 at 5:14 pm
# Raider Headbutt Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
Sorry but I disagree here. I see what you mean by we are in the same boat with the young guys but we would have young guys with SOME NFL experience behind 2 vets that can actually guide them, something that we be good for development of the young guys and not put soo much pressure on them. Not saying those 2 players would actually lead to 9 wins but hypothetically saying they did, thats what would be best for the team.
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RH, I think Davis REALLY learned from the Gruden fiasco. And if you think I am kidding, look at Tampon Bay for the next two-three years. Kiffin did not want to start Russell, Shilens, Higgins, Bush, and went with guys that are no longer in the league. Last year, Once the youngsters started to play well, the team played well. Going with the two Rookie wide outs, in all honesty, is CRAZY! I don’t think I have EVER heard of a team starting TWO rookie wide outs. But who else are we going to put in there?? Joey Galloway?? Say Galloway does well, we still haven’t developed our guys, so we’re back to square one any way, and if he does poorly, it was a VERY bad decision. Right now, we are REALLY taking our lumps with the two rooks, and Russell is the one taking the brunt of it. Still, I think it is the right decision.
September 29th, 2009 at 5:14 pm
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September 29th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
1 JaMarcus Russell
2 Calvin Johnson
3 Joe Thomas
4 Gaines Adams
5 Levi Brown
6 LaRon Landry
7 Adrian Peterson
8 Jamaal Anderson
9 Ted Ginn Jr.
10 Amobi Okoye
11 Patrick Willis
12 Marshawn Lynch
13 Adam Carriker
14 Darrelle Revis
15 Lawrence Timmons
September 29th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
361. No doubt. Mike Mayock called it “The worst draft ever.”
September 29th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
1 Mario Williams
2 Reggie Bush
3 Vince Young
4 D’Brickashaw Ferguson
5 A.J. Hawk
6 Vernon Davis
7 Michael Huff
8 Donte Whitner
9 Ernie Sims
10 Matt Leinart
11 Jay Cutler
12 Haloti Ngata
13 Kamerion Wimbley
14 Brodrick Bunkley
15 Tye Hill
September 29th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
356. Center is the most important position in the ZBS.
Gotta have someone who can read the D and call the scheme and oh yeah, EXECUTE!
September 29th, 2009 at 5:21 pm
Nmamdi,
I seriously didn’t realize it was that bad.
Actually, I don’t feel so bad about D-Mac right now.
Certainly we all would have been excited about Dorsey, Rivers or Ellis, right.
Hell, I think D-Mac has better than those 3. Dorsey won just as many awards in college as Darren.
September 29th, 2009 at 5:23 pm
Vegas,
I would say C. I would actually trade next year’s #1 for a young dominant C.
2nd rd pick would simply be a hard nosed LB. Nothing fancy like a converted this or that, just a tough hard nosed LB.
Dline and Oline with all the other picks.
Also, Warren, Ellis, and Seymour have a lot of miles on them if we are talking next year and beyond.
September 29th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
[...] rate of “inadequacy”? On a side note, I’m pretty disappointed in the Raiders banning Rich Gannon from their facilities. Perhaps pay a bit more attention on the progression, or lack there of, of your offense over [...]
September 29th, 2009 at 5:27 pm
1 Alex Smith
2 Ronnie Brown
3 Braylon Edwards
4 Cedric Benson
5 Cadillac Williams
6 Pacman Jones
7 Troy Williamson
8 Antrel Rolle
9 Carlos Rogers
10 Mike Williams
11 DeMarcus Ware
12 Shawne Merriman
13 Jammal Brown
14 Thomas Davis
15 Derrick Johnson
September 29th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
How about that nice TD drive we gave up coming out of halftime making it 20-3?
September 29th, 2009 at 5:33 pm
Truth is Gannon wasn’t unduly bashing. He was disgusted with where we are, what we accept and what we’ve become.
Not like he didn’t have reason or got personal…
September 29th, 2009 at 5:33 pm
1 Eli Manning
2 Robert Gallery
3 Larry Fitzgerald
4 Philip Rivers
5 Sean Taylor
6 Kellen Winslow
7 Roy Williams
8 DeAngelo Hall
9 Reggie Williams
10 Dunta Robinson
11 Ben Roethlisberger
12 Jonathan Vilma
13 Lee Evans
14 Tommie Harris
15 Michael Clayton
September 29th, 2009 at 5:34 pm
Oak great posts!
September 29th, 2009 at 5:34 pm
You guys remember Russell’s passing camp.
Guess who showed up WITHOUT a contract!
`Louis Murphy
Others: Todd Watkins
Guess who couldn’t be bothered
Darius Heyward-Bey
September 29th, 2009 at 5:35 pm
jhill Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
How about that nice TD drive we gave up coming out of halftime making it 20-3
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During the Gannon years I never worried about going into the half behind. That team made excellent half time adjustments.
This ones one note all the way…
Is it because they’re so young or just f’in inept? I think we need Tollner to call plays. There is a lot of very dynamic, explosive offensive weapons NOT being used…
September 29th, 2009 at 5:41 pm
1 Carson Palmer
2 Charles Rogers
3 Andre Johnson
4 Dewayne Robertson
5 Terence Newman
6 Johnathan Sullivan
7 Byron Leftwich
8 Jordan Gross
9 Kevin Williams
10 Terrell Suggs
11 Marcus Trufant
12 Jimmy Kennedy
13 Ty Warren
14 Michael Haynes
15 Jerome McDougle
September 29th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
Al Davis has a nice system set up. He imposes his dysfunctional concepts which results in repeated failure.
Then the fans…blind in its ability to see…throws all the blame on the player(s) and coach(es).
No way! Al Davis is the one that takes 100% of the blame for this slow start…..HOPEFULLY he sees the error in his ways and lets the coaches control the game plan. Unfortuntately, Tom Cable is calling the plays and I believe that he is doing what he and Davis thinks is right.
Give the playcalling to Tollner. As Head Coach, there is enough work to do just getting these so-called professionals ready to play everyday
September 29th, 2009 at 5:43 pm
I’m certainly over Tom Cable calling plays.
Many times in businesses and organizations, the “manager” (CEO or something similar) isn’t the smartest guy calling all the “plays” so to speak. He is the guy who gets people to move mountains for him, and saves all the deep-thinking for the dweebs down in R & D, and the analysts.
Time for Cable to focus on his “rah-rah” skills and the O-line, and leave the play-calling for the dweebs, Hackett and Tolner.
September 29th, 2009 at 5:44 pm
Jerry
You scared of John Herrera and the goons over on Harbor Bay Drive?
September 29th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
You know, rewatching the Denver game, one thing comes to mind … The team just needs to settle the Fugg down.
You get caught up in the mobb hysteria of the team is this and the team is that, and on the surface, most of it appears to be true. You know, the old perception is reality thing.
Cable actaully has some good plays in his book. He’s just calling them at the wrong times. His inexperience in the play calling role is really evident. I’m noticing that he will have 2 or 3 good plays in a row, and then pull out the deep pass. On the play right before the second interception, Bush smashes a long run out of the 2 TE set. On 1st and 10, Cable goes shotgun, and DHB and Russell via Champ Bailey can’t hook up. Pounding the rock on that possesion was working just fine, and he just could help himself from calling a deep pass play. This is not Madden, Cable. Stop out thinking yourself and just stick with your Oline gut of smashmouth power football. Stop forcing Oren ONeal out on the field b/c he is NOT healthy.
September 29th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
Do you think teams offenses even do half of the normal film study during the week they play the Raiders?
I mean if Wednesday night normally is “RB’s study blitz-pick up night” during Raider week it is “RB’s watch 20 minutes of film and go to strip-club night”.
September 29th, 2009 at 6:00 pm
too depressing in here I’m going drinking again……today
September 29th, 2009 at 6:02 pm
JHIll,
What ticks me off is that this team still has games where its not prepared to compete.
This team has too many games like the Denver game. Games where they really are not an NFL caliber squad.
Not just this year either. But several times over the last 6 years.
Its that elementary scheme the Raiders run. Think about it. You are the QB, no need to do a lot of reading of the defense….you know its man, you know its 4 man rush..and that’s it.
Tell Davis to butt out!
September 29th, 2009 at 6:04 pm
You guys are absolutely right …
The HC should not be calling the plays! How often does that work? Especially with a guy who doesn’t have a history of doing it in the NFL?
I mean, let’s get real!
What do you think the players were really saying after those 2 plays were called after the goal line stand?
I bet the FIRST thing they said was WTF kind of call was that?!?!?!?
THEN they started questioning the QB.
September 29th, 2009 at 6:07 pm
JHill,
Where do all the plays they run in the preseason go?
Its almost like Davis let’s the coaches do their own thing during the preaseason….but put the brakes on all that during the regular season.
And Cable is more in Davis’ pocket than any coach since Art Shell.
September 29th, 2009 at 6:07 pm
And for those of you who say he should have not thrown the pass, Miller was in on a max protection. Only DHB and Murphy were in the pattern. If he throws it away or even worse takes a sack, we give up 2 pts. That play should have NEVER been called, especially since it didn’t work on the play RIGHT BEFORE that! LOL!
I can see Cable’s mind churning …. Uhhh huhhh, no way they think I call that again. Of course we should run it, but they just KNOW that’s what I’m going to call. Perfect time for me to hit em deep.
September 29th, 2009 at 6:09 pm
SnB
I asked you the same question last week. Why so many games where the Players come out flat, and uninterested.
Answer: It’s all about Al Davis, nobody else is really invested in the product. All decisions come out of the Executive Suite, nothing from the locker room.
September 29th, 2009 at 6:09 pm
OG, just pointing out the timeline. Before Davis v. Gannon, the Raiders look like a new team. Afterward, they look like the old Raiders.
September 29th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
KoolKell,
Yeah, you are right. Al Davis just poisons this entire show. The reason he’s so meddlesome is because unlike all the other owners, he doesn’t have another full-time job or significant business interest.
So he spends his days putting his mark on this operation.
The Raiders get in games where they are no more competitive than an elite college team. How many games have we seen this offense have less than 100 to 150 yds of offense? How many times have we seen the defense just get utterly dominated from whistle to whistle.
Its Davis’ antiquated systems with its vanilla looks and lack of real adjustments. A team that is truly prepared and has some talent typically smash us.
September 29th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
Jhill,
I don’t know. Look at the defense. Rob Ryan used to blitz in the preseason and the team would talk about being aggressive.
Then during the regular season its the 4-man rush man2man all game with a prevent on any 3rd and longs or late in the 4th QTR in the rare instance there is a lead
September 29th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 6:07 pm
JHill,
Where do all the plays they run in the preseason go?
Its almost like Davis let’s the coaches do their own thing during the preaseason….but put the brakes on all that during the regular season.
And Cable is more in Davis’ pocket than any coach since Art Shell.
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Ii just think it is more of the inexperience actually calling plays. I see a lot of different formations and personell. But out of nowhere, here comes a deep uncalled for pass play. I think it is more of Cable trying to hard to impress Davis and the fans. He even knows it when he comes right out and says I should not have done that.
You add that to 2 rookie WRs, a makeshift Oline, the 3rd youngest QB in the league who looks like he should still be in college, and this is what you get on offense.
September 29th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
I think I have an answer to all our problems.
We change out the window from Al’s box, and insert a HD screen, instead. When Al rings out to Cable, throw the bomb, a tech brings up vintage footage of old Raiders games, Al is happy, but the coach calls the actual plays. We march down the field, Al see’s his TD, and everyone is happy. Better than the projector, and smiles all around!
September 29th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
A friend and I talked right before kickoff, and we discussed whether the Gannon situation would have any barring on the team. I said not really, and he said he thought it would, gives the players another reason to roll their eyes and wonder what the hell is going on around here.
About 20 minutes into the game I text him and said you were right.
September 29th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
Instead of the Owner micro-managing the coaches 24/7, wouldn’t it be nice if he were using his legendary status to sell more tickets in the community, making nice with the local heavy-hitters, sell some Corporate suites.
No, instead, he’s busy telling the media and fans to kiss his assz.
September 29th, 2009 at 6:29 pm
And props to Gannon for taking the high road. I highly doubt his whole plane excuse, he spared Al furthur embarressment. Probably felt a little sorry for him, more than anything else.
His “color” work was solid, and he was seriously stoked when Jamarcus dumped the ball off to Miller for the completion before the Seabass kick, called it the “Smart play”. No cheap shots, nothing to keep his name in the papers, other than doing his job as best he could.
Class act through and through.
September 29th, 2009 at 6:32 pm
JHIll,
Here’s what’s also disturbing. Russell appears headed to bustville. The fans hate him and sooner or later the team is going to give up on him for some raggedy veteran.
What people don’t understand is that you really can’t win with a veteran QB. Teams don’t give up good QBs. They just don’t. Look at the prospects of all those teams that have elected to go with middling veterans with pop gun arms or erratic accuracy…
Kerry Collins – Tennessee is done!
Jon Kitna – What did he do for Detroit?
Jeff Garcia – Tampa is in ruins
Damon Huard – Left K.C in ruins
Culpepper – Left Miami in shambles
Rich Gannon – What was Oakland’s solution to his 3 short years?
and on and on and on. That’s why getting Russell right is so important. Otherwise its back to the Aaron Brooks, Don Hollas, Jay Schroeder’s, Jeff George and other retreads that have ruined this Raider organization!
Teams that cannot or will not develop a long-term solution to the QB CAN’T WIN! Why? Because you are constantly having to swap out QBs
September 29th, 2009 at 6:40 pm
Hasnt Al been telling the media and fans to kiss his arse for about 40 years?
September 29th, 2009 at 6:42 pm
860Todd Christensen Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
I think I have an answer to all our problems.
We change out the window from Al’s box, and insert a HD screen, instead. When Al rings out to Cable, throw the bomb, a tech brings up vintage footage of old Raiders games, Al is happy, but the coach calls the actual plays. We march down the field, Al see’s his TD, and everyone is happy. Better than the projector, and smiles all around!
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LOL! LOL! and have Tracinda doing the voice over with Autumn Wind playing on low volume in the background
September 29th, 2009 at 6:44 pm
If Russell fails folks….that’s it for Oakland for another 2 to 5 yrs.
September 29th, 2009 at 6:45 pm
Kell, Vegas, you have been here long enough to know, We Do NOT have a protecting O-line, they try, but we have NOT have a smash-mouth, knock you on your butt, open up holes O-line in many years. Our patching up, cover this, cover that, O-line does not infuse confidence in the QB, RB, or anyone else. Where did we begin to believe we were going to fool anyone else? Donkies had our number, turned us over and spanked us, we deserved it, should be a wake up call. No, we blame Shell. I can only hope this team has learned a lesson from this game, the Donkies are going to be tested for where they are really at for the next 5 games, so are the Raiders, Forget the last three, Lets see how we answer the next 5, then form an opinion. Agree?
September 29th, 2009 at 6:49 pm
860,
The O-LIne is a result of swapping out coaches and coaching philosophy every 1.8 years.
Turner and Shell favored the smashmouth power blocking.
Kiffin, and by extension Cable favor this Zone Blocking System.
Well, you have to draft for the system. But when your team doesn’t want to spend high draft picks on O-Lineman AND you replace the lineman you had there before because they don’t fit….your only option is free agents. Well, just like QBs, teams rarely give up good lineman.
So here we are!
September 29th, 2009 at 6:51 pm
# Plunketthead Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 6:40 pm
Hasnt Al been telling the media and fans to kiss his arse for about 40 years?
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Al’s so cool. Never mind the 6 years of losing. Al tells the media to kiss his arse. That’s all that matters. We can go 0-16. As long as Al Davis tells the press to kiss his arse, nobody can say anything to us! Yeh!
September 29th, 2009 at 6:51 pm
Plunketthead Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 6:40 pm
Hasnt Al been telling the media and fans to kiss his arse for about 40 years?
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Yes he has. But his legacy is being tarnished. The Raiders have been a largely plodding organization for 20+ years now..with the exception of a couple of years of Gruden and Gannon that was paid for by morgaging the future….just like the mortgage crisis
September 29th, 2009 at 6:54 pm
Why are they coming down on Gannon?
What did I miss? What did Gannon do?
I thought his analysis of Russel was on the money and not critical.
What happened?
September 29th, 2009 at 6:55 pm
CJ Legend 34 Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 6:54 pm
Why are they coming down on Gannon?
What did I miss? What did Gannon do?
I thought his analysis of Russel was on the money and not critical.
What happened?
September 29th, 2009 at 6:56 pm
Things are so bad right now that fans are actually asking for Bruce Gradkowski and Jeff Garcia. Two QBs that were cut by TAmpa Bay.
And you wonder why this franchise doesn’t win!
September 29th, 2009 at 7:00 pm
No as long as Uncle Al keeps the money flowing like water they will come do their time and try to go to another team.
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SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 7:03 pm
860,
Should Russell, DMAC, Huff, Heyward-Bey, Gallery all bust out…you gotta believe that top tier rookies are going to hold out and not play here.
The Raiders are not doing a good job of developing young players and that’s troubling.
Developing your own talent is vital to winning.
The old strategy of building through free agency doesn’t work anymore. Teams are too smart.
Only Al Davis and Daniel Snyder don’t understand this
September 29th, 2009 at 7:01 pm
KoolKell Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
Instead of the Owner micro-managing the coaches 24/7, wouldn’t it be nice if he were using his legendary status to sell more tickets in the community, making nice with the local heavy-hitters, sell some Corporate suites.
No, instead, he’s busy telling the media and fans to kiss his assz.
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Yeah, its bad. I don’t understand it either. This is the guy that coined the phrase “Just Win Baby” and “Commitment to Excellence” Well where the hell is it?
September 29th, 2009 at 7:01 pm
I also agree, SnB, I was making a mockery in jest about where this team has gone. It was stated, tongue in cheek. What I saw this weekend disgusted me. I have very high hopes with this young team, I really do, we have so much talent. It needs to be combined to a cohesive unit that could out play the Steelers of 70’s and draw players that would actually want to play football. I can say that I remember when the news was showing College players from all over the country stating, “I WANT TO BE A RAIDER”! Do we see this now?
September 29th, 2009 at 7:02 pm
Who is ready to step up and accept their well deserved Wasted Life Award?
September 29th, 2009 at 7:03 pm
860,
Should Russell, DMAC, Huff, Heyward-Bey, Gallery all bust out…you gotta believe that top tier rookies are going to hold out and not play here.
The Raiders are not doing a good job of developing young players and that’s troubling.
Developing your own talent is vital to winning.
The old strategy of building through free agency doesn’t work anymore. Teams are too smart.
Only Al Davis and Daniel Snyder don’t understand this
September 29th, 2009 at 7:03 pm
Fellas,
We have to be realistic. This just is not a good franchise right now. No one really wants to come here and coach for Al our be a part of this franchise anymore. Look at Seymour he almost died coming here, he still does not know how to act. Cable got the job because no other coach worth his weight in gold wanted the job. We don’t develop young talent and our offensive and defensive scheme is out of date. I have been amazed to watch talent leave this time and go to other teams and become decent role players.
We are just not a good team anymore.
September 29th, 2009 at 7:06 pm
# vegas raider Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 5:14 pm
4 Darren McFadden
5 Glenn Dorsey
6 Vernon Gholston
7 Sedrick Ellis
8 Derrick Harvey
9 Keith Rivers
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Sedrick Ellis and Keith Rivers are talents….Rivers got his jaw cracked by Hines Ward…but he’s doing okay with 19 tackles in 3 gms….Ellis was injured part of the year last year..
September 29th, 2009 at 7:06 pm
860,
I don’t know, except for late in the Denver game, I have thought the O-line has done a pretty decent job.
Look at our 3 turnovers last week. Both picks, Jamarcus had plenty of time a pocket to step up in and never got touched.
The D-Mac fumble he had a huge hole to run through and coughed it up.
Certainly the O-line isn’t great, but besides special teams and maybe our safeties, what unit has been better? Definitely not QB’s, RB’s , WR’s, or LB’s.
September 29th, 2009 at 7:07 pm
Is there a bay area sports talk radio station that broadcasts on internet? Too much jets and giants where I live.
September 29th, 2009 at 7:08 pm
# vegas raider Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 5:14 pm
4 Darren McFadden
5 Glenn Dorsey
6 Vernon Gholston
7 Sedrick Ellis
8 Derrick Harvey
9 Keith Rivers
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Yuck!!!! Has there ever been a worse #4-9?
I couldn’t imagine so.
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I personally wanted #7 Sedrick Ellis DT, USC
I think that a lineup of Ellis, Kelly, Ellis * Seymour would be a pretty strong front 4 to face.
September 29th, 2009 at 7:08 pm
860,
I know. But the storm gathering around Russell is now a run away train. He’s not going to be able to function at home. They hate him. That’s what you get when you draft a QB, don’t sign him, don’t provide veteran leadership, don’t provide competent coaching adn surround him with 3 receivers and a left tackle that are no longer in the league because they are so bad.
Bring on Rex Grossman I guess….
September 29th, 2009 at 7:10 pm
860,
I know. But the storm gathering around Russell is now a run away train. He’s not going to be able to function at home. They hate him. That’s what you get when you draft a QB, don’t sign him, don’t provide veteran leadership, don’t provide competent coaching adn surround him with 3 receivers and a left tackle that are no longer in the league because they are so bad.
Raider fans have been so conditioned that they actually enjoy the prospect of a Jeff Garcia or JP Losman….these are sad days indeed
September 29th, 2009 at 7:10 pm
860,
Geez….these posts are placed anywhere!
I know. But the storm gathering around Russell is now a run away train. He’s not going to be able to function at home. They hate him. That’s what you get when you draft a QB, don’t sign him, don’t provide veteran leadership, don’t provide competent coaching adn surround him with 3 receivers and a left tackle that are no longer in the league because they are so bad.
Raider fans have been so conditioned that they actually enjoy the prospect of a Jeff Garcia or JP Losman….these are sad days indeed
September 29th, 2009 at 7:12 pm
I should also say that on this last draft I wanted Eugene Monroe OT, Virginia. I still can’t believe we passed on him for a decoy. BRILLIANT!
September 29th, 2009 at 7:12 pm
But, SnB, we are playing rookie youth. I do not see where they were prept to be on the field. JR is not the only one to be blamed here. There was NO seperation, confusion in the routes, tripping and not comming back to the play by in-experienced TE’s and decoy WR’s? Who’s to blame here? JR only had time out of shotgun, and still, damn little! The O-line collapsed, did not make holes, and landed on their azzes all game. Who put these players on the field?
September 29th, 2009 at 7:12 pm
Vegas,
The Raiders strength has never really been coaching X’s and O’s for a long time.
The Owner provides the X’s and O’s and the Owner empowers the players….don’t be surprised if Sands excels in New England. Those coaches will teach him up or cut him.
Not like in Oakland where he is babied
September 29th, 2009 at 7:12 pm
Fellas,
You will go insane trying to pass out blame to this team. There is plenty of blame to go around. As a whole this is just not a good football team. Are playmakers are making more mistakes than “plays”.
September 29th, 2009 at 7:13 pm
If the Turd does well, a story will be told that will expose the whole Raider organization as a fraud. While i believe there is some truth about a fraud being perpetrated on the fans I still believe the Turd is nothing more than a turd, only painted a different color.
September 29th, 2009 at 7:13 pm
Raiders will soon be back in LA so all you fair weather fans can do a draft analysis on the niners…
September 29th, 2009 at 7:14 pm
# JB Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 7:13 pm
If the Turd does well, a story will be told that will expose the whole Raider organization as a fraud. While i believe there is some truth about a fraud being perpetrated on the fans I still believe the Turd is nothing more than a turd, only painted a different color.
September 29th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
JB, wanted him also. Oh to dream………..
September 29th, 2009 at 7:16 pm
Me to vegas Raider, I am right there Bro. I have been a Raiders fan since little league but I am close to calling it a day. It pains me to go there but how much of this abuse as a fan can you take.
The only time I get excited about this team is when we talk about what they could do. Once every game is over you are like d@mn they suck!
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vegas raider Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 7:16 pm
CJ Legend 34 Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 7:03 pm
I have been amazed to watch talent leave this team and go to other teams and become decent role players.
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If the Turd goes over to New England and plays well, that just might be the final straw for me.
September 29th, 2009 at 7:16 pm
CJ Legend 34 Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 7:03 pm
I have been amazed to watch talent leave this team and go to other teams and become decent role players.
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If the Turd goes over to New England and plays well, that just might be the final straw for me.
September 29th, 2009 at 7:17 pm
What the f#(k!!!!!! ?????
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ragin Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 7:13 pm
Raiders will soon be back in LA so all you fair weather fans can do a draft analysis on the niners…
September 29th, 2009 at 7:20 pm
# 860Todd Christensen Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 7:12 pm
“Who put these players on the field”
……
Well, there’s lots of blame to go around. I made a list of everyone responsible.
Jon Gruden
Rich Gannon
Adam Schefter
Warren Sapp
Marcus Allen
Ray Ratto
Nancy Gay
Gladys Valley
The McGah family
Shame on all of them. The game has obviously passed them by. Thank God we have Al to fix this.
September 29th, 2009 at 7:21 pm
If you ever want a painful laugh look at highlights form the Saints defense and what they have been able to accomplish and build from nothing in the draft and look at our offense.
I am a Russel supporter but when you look at how Drew Breeze makes his team better they are not even close.
September 29th, 2009 at 7:23 pm
We are the feeder team to NE, fellers, we break em, we stake em, we dump off to NE, they make em Stars! WTG Al!
September 29th, 2009 at 7:24 pm
ragin Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 7:13 pm
Raiders will soon be back in LA so all you fair weather fans can do a draft analysis on the niners…
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I don’t know man. 20+ yrs of lousy football except for a 3 yr blip. Ain’t no fair weather fans in here.
You enjoy this B.S? I have no problem with losing a well fought game…like the Charger game.
But that Bronco game was B.S at every level imaginable. And here’s the rub, they’ve played that poorly a lot over the last few years
September 29th, 2009 at 7:25 pm
Let’s not get nostalgic for Terdell Sands. He needed to go…
September 29th, 2009 at 7:25 pm
Snides aside, I love this young team, we have a very good nucleous of talent. If Cable dosen’t go to jail and can combine this into a very positive combination to the Nation, he really has to be jetsoned, and a real, high calliber coatch has to be able to run this high caliber show and produce. We Have the talent!
September 29th, 2009 at 7:25 pm
What I’m tired of is everyone bagging on the raiders including their own fans, yeah they haven’t been good but to call mcfadden a bust, c’mon man it’s his second year, not even a full first year. Not me, I think russell has some pride and he isbetter than he has played…
September 29th, 2009 at 7:25 pm
What about Michael Oher?? Read in SI, that after two games some opposing coaches and players are saying he may be a Pro Bowler THIS YEAR, and if Sanchez falters, he will win offensive rookie of the year.
Why couldn’t Al reach for this kid instead of Darius Handsof-Clay?
September 29th, 2009 at 7:27 pm
Vegas,
Davis doesn’t value lineman as much as skill position players.
He went and got Seymour (good move) only because the D-Line got so bad and the run defense so poor.
Unfortunately, the run defense is still bad
September 29th, 2009 at 7:29 pm
Vegas, lmao! I’m 53 and bald! Same condition!!!!
September 29th, 2009 at 7:30 pm
Jmarcus is a fatso that’s the problem!
He just cut in front of me in line at the Taco Truck! Gordo!!
September 29th, 2009 at 7:30 pm
CJ,
Unfortunately this blog is sometimes the highlight of the week as far as all things Raider football. Make a decent point, get some people to agree with you, and you get at least a very small level of gratification for your time.
I got zero gratification on Sunday and that has been way too common lately. The only thing I got was pissed off, way too drunk, even more pissed off once I sobered up, tossed and turned all night, and woke up pissed off.
Not much fun. I have high-blood pressure, high cholestrol and my hair is about 50/50 gray. I am 29. I blame Al.
September 29th, 2009 at 7:31 pm
vegas raider Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 7:30 pm
Not much fun. I have high-blood pressure, high cholestrol and my hair is about 50/50 gray. I am 29. I blame Al.
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To add on that, I went to a great college-town, have maintained a pretty good 2 jobs over the last 4 years, don’t live paycheck-to-paycheck and am married with a decent you-know-what life.
No other reason than Al and the Raiders. They gave me silver-n-black hair!!
Sorry to be so negative, but this shyt has been killing me, LITERALLY!!!!
September 29th, 2009 at 7:33 pm
No Vegas if you really want to cry!!!!!
Look at what Johnny Knox round 5 pick 4- 4.34 40 time. What a steal of a decoy he could have turned out to be. The only diffrence is he can catch the d@mn ball and is on the score board.
They said this kids work ethic is great!
Does the Raiders scout team suck @$$ or what?
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2009/profiles/johnny-knox?id=79595
September 29th, 2009 at 7:34 pm
My bad Vegas I am tired on midwest time.
He was selected by the Chicago Bears.
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CJ Legend 34 Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 7:33 pm
No Vegas if you really want to cry!!!!!
Look at what Johnny Knox round 5 pick 4- 4.34 40 time. What a steal of a decoy he could have turned out to be. The only diffrence is he can catch the d@mn ball and is on the score board.
They said this kids work ethic is great!
Does the Raiders scout team suck @$$ or what?
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2009/profiles/johnny-knox?id=79595
September 29th, 2009 at 7:37 pm
And I wanted Kenny Britt, my bad!
September 29th, 2009 at 7:40 pm
Of course this suggestion will never come to maturity but now is the time to decide what type of O-Line we really want to operate with – Power or ZBS. We currently have 2 players that could go either way and are worth hanging onto. They are Super Mario & Robert Gallery. We need to replace 60% of our current starters. Supposedly, ZBS is suppose the better choice for a running game. The power line is just good for beating the hell out of the other guy. I prefer a power line. If you look back to the SB years, we were always successful when we had a mean power blocking O-line. Let’s hope we get back there one of these days.
September 29th, 2009 at 7:56 pm
JB, look at NFL history, it will answer your Q. To establish the passing game, you have to establish the running game. Period. Whether ZB, or otherwise, PROTECT QB, OPEN HOLES, the scheme doesn’t change. Why complicate an easy scheme, you need capable, smash-mouth, punishing, lineman. QUOTE FROM: “RAIDERS 101 FOOTBALL” 1962. All rights preserved.
September 29th, 2009 at 8:00 pm
Alisgod, Al did give us a good nucleous for a good team, but hoped for what we have, to be a good O-line, to the coaches, unfortunately, they failed. Now we are stuck. Any Suggestions?
September 29th, 2009 at 8:02 pm
vegas raider Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 7:25 pm
What about Michael Oher?? Read in SI, that after two games some opposing coaches and players are saying he may be a Pro Bowler THIS YEAR, and if Sanchez falters, he will win offensive rookie of the year.
Why couldn’t Al reach for this kid instead of Darius Handsof-Clay?
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V,
Have you read the book on him. It’s fantastic and I was hoping Al would draft him. What a shame.
September 29th, 2009 at 8:11 pm
So, I wonder if Al would consider bringing Gruden back and I wonder if Gruden would accept
Also, just my opinion, at first, all of the Jawalrus, Jameatball, Jasuckage comments were funny but now I just think it is old.
September 29th, 2009 at 8:11 pm
860,
I know I am in the minority here but I am still on the Cable wagon since last year and so long as Al is around only Cable can make it work. No other coaches can make it work with Al around. Al’s best is also his worst.
We have a good D this year. They will have their ups and down but we are going to be fine on that side of the ball. We dont have our best WR on the team nor our best lineman. People want to win now but this schytt takes time. Most of us would be happy at 8-8 or 9-7 and so then we all should be patient with some losses. It’s been a long 6 years but Cable is the best we’ve got in a long time. Cable has to make changes to his gameplan and i hate to say it but be more like Singletary and just run run run. Cable cannot allow the O to lose the game for them.
September 29th, 2009 at 8:12 pm
Alisgod,
Good D?? Based on what??
Cable is the best in years? Based on what?
September 29th, 2009 at 8:12 pm
Alisgod,
The Denver game was an unacceptable standard of football. This team should rarely get blown out and certainly not at home vs a team that had a more turbulent offseason than the Raiders.
This team is now, yet again, in a must win situation this weekend. And Schilens better play. This team goes 1-3 with another face plant….with the Giants, Eagles and Jets coming up next!
3-13 and another Coach & QB search!
That would pretty much be a wrap for the Raiders for another 3 to 5 years.
The critics didn’t get its azz whupped. The media didn’t get its azz whupped! The players and coaches got their collective azz whupped because the bastards can’t call a decent play, throw a freekn pass or hold on to the damn ball.
You guys are quick to tell the fans to grin and bear this sh….. Its time for the players and coaches to play to their $@@4 damned POTENTIAL!
September 29th, 2009 at 8:18 pm
LOL at Turdell controlling the the Raider perception. How ironic is that?!?!? If that guy lasts the season with NE, that speaks volumes!
Then again, Walter, Jordan, and Burgess didn’t really work out for them. Neither did Doug Gabriel. So no reason to think that Sands will do anything just because Moss had one good year.
September 29th, 2009 at 8:25 pm
Alisgod,
I am cool with spirited efforts like the San Diego game. But to go out unprepared and put up these atrocious statistics on offense and defense. I am really sick and tired of this man.
I just want to see the damn light at the end of the tunnel with this stuff. You know, like the 49ers and Jets right now. They see the light because unlike our beloved Raiders, their players actually play hard every snap AND ARE PREPARED TO PLAY.
Meanwhile, we have to listen to this so-called coach explain this B.S away.
That game last week was disgusting! And they deserved to be booed and everything else.
My patience (not worth anything I know) is wearing thin with this franchise. Its not much fun to even watch the games when they start so poorly and then continue that crap to the whistle.
I am not asking for wins at this point. I just want an honest effort and some evidence that this B.S is clearing up and getting better!
We aren’t talking a year or two or three SIX G-DAMMED YEARS OF THIS SH….AND QUICKLY GOING ON SEVEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
September 29th, 2009 at 8:27 pm
Alisgod,
I hear what you are saying. But the Raiders have good player too! The two best shut-down man2man corners in the game. A strong safety that can hit and cover and has speed, the fastest WLB in the league, Richard Seymour and Greg Ellis.
That defense should boss up on just about everyone they play. THe Raiders have WAAAAY more defensive talent than Denver. The coaches got out hustled and did not prepare the team.
On offense. The Quarterback played at a good standard the last half of last year. If we got his play from the last few games…the Raiders are 3-0…WTF Happened?
McFadden is spiraling down hill and the offense looks inept. Murphy is calling out DHB on the sidelines.
AlisGod, WHAT THE HELL ARE THEY DOING IN PRACTICE?
I love the Raiders! I really do! But this team is too far along to be pulling this B.S week after week.
THey should be coming out on fire.
Now they are once again fighting for their collective lives way too early in the season!
Alisgod, all I am saying is that this improvement and optimism has to start manifesting itself on the field. Not at press conferences and blog sites!
September 29th, 2009 at 8:27 pm
The problem with those option route is something SnB and I talked about all summer. Will we see a true dime defense match up to the 4 WR set, or would we still see Morrison AND Howard on the field.
The adjustment would have simply been to put the nickel package in when they go to 3 WRs, and the dime when they go to 4 WRs. The fact that LB kept getting matched up with LBs was comical!
September 29th, 2009 at 8:27 pm
Dude or Mr. or Mrs Brown, whatever you are…you’re just a jerk on here looking for attention. I aint wasting my time with you. You’re the same dumba$$ that thought Mitchell couldnt play…nuff said
SNB, I think a lot of us underestimated Denver. Here 2 things Denver has going for them.
1. They have a fantastic D. You can’t ignore that. Dawkins is a huge diff maker for them. Even Chump Bailey acknowledged as much. You think the Eagles could use him now. Moreover Nolan is like Turner, they suck at being the HC but they are fantastic Coordinators. It’s not a coincidence they shut down the Bengals even though they got lucky.
2. The raiders play a game straight up Al Davis my man is better than your man football. We used to not have the manpower for that but I do believe we do now. We have the best tandem starting corners in the league and a decent front line. I guarantee you that once they put Mitchell in there consistently he is going to be a playmaker for us. When was the last time you saw the Raiders D stood their ground on goal lines? However, that Al Davis scheme gets worked over when it runs into teams that scheme and dink and dunk you to death. McDaniel is a huge dink and dunk schemer and he made us pay.
Cable talked about big plays we gave up but I look at the option route the Denver receivers were running. Basically Gaffney were running the same Wes Welker routes that we never made adjustments to. That same play killed us over and over again. Gannon was pointing that out consistently.
September 29th, 2009 at 8:27 pm
did you guys see late in the game when JaPoatroast took off running he could of slid but he hit the denver db hard shoulder to shoulder when he got up you could see in his eyes how pissed he was.
thats why i think he is a bust he isn’t trying to blow it and he’s getting pissed at failing he just dosent have it.
dmac is not a bust he just needs a bettero-line and scheme and dhb is to early to tell
mike mitchell looked pretty good but imho we could of drafted some other position than safety but huff was looking like a bust so that was big al’s call.
September 29th, 2009 at 8:30 pm
Just got word that the Raiders have brought back #22 Justin Miller and he will be returning kickoffs on Sunday.
September 29th, 2009 at 8:30 pm
McFadden has no excuses.
1 fumble…ok….THREE! Like BSPN says “CMON MAN!”
McFadden is underperforming. He isn’t the playmaker he’s supposed to be. He isn’t the guy that teams game plan against.
Personally, I would give Bush 70% of the carries and let McFadden chew on that for a minute.
What good is a running back that is averaging over 1 fumble a game.
You can’t have that! Rookie, 2nd year or veteran.
I need yards from this guy. Not promises!
September 29th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
“dmac is not a bust he just needs a bettero-line and scheme and dhb is to early to tell”
It’s not the oline’s fault that McFumble can’t hold on to the ball. And he DOESN’T look pissed when he fux up, he just gets up and smiles…
September 29th, 2009 at 8:32 pm
this just in from twitter are season is saved lmfao
Mr53 Raider Nation let’s welcome back #22 Justin Miller. He’ll be returning KickOff’s for us this week
13 minutes ago from UberTwitter
September 29th, 2009 at 8:32 pm
post #466 is on point
September 29th, 2009 at 8:34 pm
That’s a huge plus to get Miller back!
Losing him on top of Schillens was a big blow. I always thought that Schillens, Miller, and Murphy looked like the best WRs of the bunch. The perfect guys to take advantage of, eh hmmm, DHB clearing out the safeties.
It’s going to be really interesting to see if Cable can shake himself and get back to the methodical drives his Oline guts is telling him to get back to instead of this deep quick strike madness.
September 29th, 2009 at 8:35 pm
SNB,
If we didnt have effort, we would nver held those 2 goal line stands. I remember last year there was a goal line stand that our DT’s ended up in our own endzone and one person on here commented that “that play was feminine”. It was a sad but hilarioius comment.
I blame this last game on Cable and Marshall. They didnt call a good game either way. I was patient last year and it paid off with the wins over Houston and Tampa. I like Cable. He is straight up (as much as he can be) in the presser. Plus only he can work with a living Al Davis.
September 29th, 2009 at 8:35 pm
Alisgod,
I am not about dishing out blame or giving individual praise. I don’t care who coaches or whatever. I want effort! I want a team that looks like it prepared to play. THEY QUIT LAST WEEK!
This team has to start playing like a team. I need more San Diego like efforts. The players that are expected to perform need to perform.
No more stupid passes into the night. No more multiple fumbles, and getting gashed for double digit yards on defense and having linebackers covering the #1 receiver.
Its time for this outfit to buck up. “They are too old for this sh…”
The Raiders are playing like you would expect a team like the Rams or Lions to play. What good are individual victories when you generate 1 passing yard in the 2nd half and 3 fumbles with over 200 rushing yards allowed.
You can’t do that! I am pissed and tired of this stuff man. Like I said, I am not looking for a bunch of wins…I want effort.
Look at the 49ers and Jets….That’s what I am talking about!
Why on god’s green earth can’t we have that for once.
September 29th, 2009 at 8:43 pm
Jhill
it’s Justin Miller the db not Nick Miller the wr.
September 29th, 2009 at 8:44 pm
jhill Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 8:47 pm
Please tell me there is a silver lining Dogg!
Did we cut Routt to make room for Miller?”
No word yet, although my gut is telling me that Jonathan Holland got the axe.
September 29th, 2009 at 8:45 pm
Patience paid off in 2 wins??LOL!!!!!!!!!!!
September 29th, 2009 at 8:46 pm
I don’t buy this can’t work with Al business. What is Al going to do, fire a coach who doesn’t run his playbook? I don’t think that the he could claim “cause” in that case.
If Al didn’t fire Kiffin, he won’t fire a coach for running his own system.
NOT buying that!
September 29th, 2009 at 8:46 pm
Come on Alisgod, lets hear how you figure the D is good. Dont be a coward.
September 29th, 2009 at 8:46 pm
RaiderDogg Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 8:43 pm
Jhill
it’s Justin Miller the db not Nick Miller the wr.
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Awwwww Damnnnnnn !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 29th, 2009 at 8:47 pm
Please tell me there is a silver lining Dogg!
Did we cut Routt to make room for Miller?
September 29th, 2009 at 8:49 pm
They need to beat Houston straight up.
Where’s Tommy Kelly? He’s supposed to be a beast up the middle. He is one of the top paid DTs in the NFL. He should be all up in that backfield…stuffing the run and just creating havoc. So should his boy Warren! Again, Step UP!
And where are the linebackers? Marshall was supposed to bring his experience with those LBs in Seattle….once again our linebackers look pedestrian.
Only 5 guys on defense are bossing up and playing ball:
Ellis, Asomugha, Johnson, Branch and yes….Michael Huff.
The rest of them are just pulling the same ole b.s from the last 6yrs.
MAke an adjustment, study the film and earn your paycheck
September 29th, 2009 at 8:49 pm
Denver= over 200 yards rushing
KC= 175 yards rush and over 400 total offense
Yep, that a good D. LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 29th, 2009 at 8:53 pm
As for Russell and the offense. Freekn figure it out.
That’s what I’ve told some of my employees…especially younger ones when faced with a tough situation. Sometimes you just have to buck up and figure it out.
Start throwing timing routes into the night….start studying the damn film together….do whatever it takes to stop embarrassing your collective selves.
Of course, Tom Cable should be telling them this.
I bet Louis Murphy is the right guy. He was a captain on a team with Tim Tebow and all that. He jumped all over DHB on that INT because DHB’s overpaid self probably screwed it up.
Murphy trying to get that paycheck and earn himself a position. I will BET you Murphy is studying his azz off. He also went to the Russell passing camp without a signed contract.
Step the F up Raiders!
September 29th, 2009 at 8:57 pm
jhill Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 8:46 pm
I don’t buy this can’t work with Al business. What is Al going to do, fire a coach who doesn’t run his playbook? I don’t think that the he could claim “cause” in that case.
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JHill,
Something is wrong. Every time Davis goes to interview coaches…who is on the interview list?
Davis has to hire coaches that conceptually agree with what Davis likes AND are competent.
Then let the coaches do their thing without any input. Let them design a 21st century scheme that still honors some of the tenets that Davis clings too.
That’s what I would do
September 29th, 2009 at 8:58 pm
Holland and rankin are not kick returners
September 29th, 2009 at 9:01 pm
Alisgod,
Are you a coward who cant answer for your rediculous comments?
September 29th, 2009 at 9:04 pm
Denver= over 200 rush yards
KC=175 rush over 400 total
Good D??
September 29th, 2009 at 9:05 pm
SNB,
surely you and I can agree that football is a game of momentum. I thought that Cable has done a poor job of managing that on Sunday.
The Niners and Jets are winning because they play to their strength and dont allow their weakness to lose the game for them. Everyone is raving about Sanchez but everytime I look at his stats I see nothing. The niners ran for 29 yards against the Cards but they never wavered on that and still pounded the rock. Both of these teams do not put the QB in situations where he can lose the game for them.
I hope Cable has learned this. I hope he doesnt put the offense in positions to have turnovers. Ray Lewis told Billick to not lose the game for them in their SB season and it paid off. All Dilfer did was managed the ball. Look at Orton, all he did was not lose the game for them.
September 29th, 2009 at 9:07 pm
Anyone who thinks that LA wants ANYTHING to do with the Raiders is crazy.
When a team gets into that market it will have to have had much recent sucess and unfortunately we don’t qualify.
September 29th, 2009 at 9:19 pm
If Russel was just making bad reads and throwing the ball into coverage that would be easy to understand. What is tough to understand is when he spots an open receiver and can’t hit him. This can’t be simply because “Russel sucks” because if he was that inaccurate of a passer he wouldn’t have been on anybody’s draft board in any round, and you know if The Raiders hadn’t picked him someone else would have in the next few picks. He threw the ball accurately in the last three games last year and also was very good at Denver last year, so I know he is capable of throwing accurate passes, so I hope he snaps out of this soon. I wonder though how long The Raiders will stick with him if he doesn’t come out of it.
Just as troublesome to me about the last game as the offense’s problems was the way the defense consistently aloud Denver to run for 5+ yards on first down. I really didn’t expect that out of this defense after the way they played against SD. If that doesn’t improve it will be a long season.
September 29th, 2009 at 9:20 pm
Something is wrong. Every time Davis goes to interview coaches…who is on the interview list?
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Guys who he doesn’t have to pay big $ to get. That’s the part that Al doesn’t get. You can’t just bring in anyone to coach the team beacause “your players are so great.” Al’s philosophy has always been my guys are better than yours so the coaches should be an after thought. If Al is going to stick with Cable, he’s going to need a lot more guys like Nnamdi and Seymour in the locker room, and like yesterday!
September 29th, 2009 at 9:27 pm
Hi Dude,
I am so sorry. You are right I am a coward who prefers not to talk tough behind a screen name on the internet.
Being you such a tough guy and all. I did a lil google and found the following comments from you that I thought was really interesting..How about putting your money where your stupid mouth is tough guy. Fargas is healthy now and he is 3rd on the depth chart. Based on your comments, you should leave this site forever, if you are man enuff…that’s another story I am sure.
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Dude Says:
September 4th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
Has Bush EVER even ran for 500 yards in a season?
How many DNPs did a perfectly healthy Bush have last year?
Bush has never done a thing in this league. Untill he does Fargas is the better back. Period. End.
Fargas will start unless his hamstring precludes it.
How would we even go about betting? Whoever loses never comes on the blog again.
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September 29th, 2009 at 9:32 pm
people need to realize that we had a bad game and hope the team is embarassed enuff to play angry. they played with a purpose against sd and thats why they shouldve couldve won that game. lets give this young inexperienced team a chance to bounce back for a few weeks before quitting.
September 29th, 2009 at 9:34 pm
Dude Says:
September 18th, 2009 at 11:47 am
Alisgod,
What makes you say Mitchell is gonna be a good player?
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What caused you to ask such a dumb question?
September 29th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
talk of dmc and heybey being busts is stupid. snb u are really sounding like a clown now with the trade cut dmc business. several teams will gladly pickup dmc if that were to happen. and quit acting like murphy is so great. dude has already chalked up about 4 or 5 penalties as a wr along with a few drops. dhb has been open several times but russell cant connect with him. hell dhb was streakin down the sideline for a td right before halftime and jmac didnt look his way.
September 29th, 2009 at 9:37 pm
Dude,
Surely you can read but obviously you can’t man up to say you were so wrong can’t you. I thought you said Fargas would start if his Hammy is good and that you’d be willing to leave the site if you were wrong…
Are you MAN ENOUGH TOUGH GUY BEHIND THE INTERNET?
September 29th, 2009 at 9:39 pm
LOL @ Alisgod. And….. Anything I say not true??
Is that REALLY all you got???
Notice you didnt want to respond to my DEFENSE question.
September 29th, 2009 at 9:40 pm
saying al doesnt believe in drafting for the lines is also stupid. didnt we take gallery and grove in back 2 back rounds? u ever think maybe he hasnt drafted for the lines alot early is because he was told by CABLE AND KIFFEN that there was good enuff talent here already? he does allow his coaches to have more say than u give him credit for. next year ill be surprised if we dont address that in FA and the draft.
September 29th, 2009 at 9:40 pm
First of all, Gannon was absolutely correct in every word of his assessment of the Raiders, especially the part about the team being “hard to watch”. However, I would like to add that the teams’ troubles currently lie with the quarterback position. I have watched every game of Russell’s career so far and to this point, I don’t see any progress. He holds the ball too long and stares down his receivers. For all of you that say “sophomore jinx”, I say this: this is his 3rd year and 2nd training camp. The fact of the matter is, JaMarcus Russell is not an NFL quarterback. We need to accept the fact that we wasted that pick and move on. Right here, right now. We need to get behind Bruce Almighty (Gradkowski, that is). He was overlooked at Toledo, but he is a general and a warrior and can move the chains most importantly. I challenge anyone in this chat room to find me a top tier NFL quarterback with a rating of 39.8 at any point in their career. As a matter of fact, show me a 2nd tier QB with worse numbers…….and this is his 3RD YEAR!!!!!! AND HAD THE AUDACITY TO HOLD OUT!!!
September 29th, 2009 at 9:42 pm
I notice you convienently didnt include the fact that all those comments were made about game 1 vs SD but hey, why let the facts get in the way of a good story right?? What a tool.
September 29th, 2009 at 9:45 pm
@ Armond……give me a break!!! I’m as die-hard as they come and I’m freaking tired of saying “wait til next year” and further more I’m tired of making false predictions about “next year”!!!! I’m chanting, “Bruce….Bruce….Bruce!!!!! We can still win this year with the defense we have. Cable need to grow a pair this week and sit Russell’s ass down!!!
September 29th, 2009 at 9:47 pm
Hey Dude .. tough guy behind the net
Debating defnese with you is like debating with a 5 year old. I prefer to spend my time googling your past idiotic statements. It’s more satisfying.
Good nite nation. Going to enjoy sitting on the toilet reading all of of dudes past comments. Hey Dud, how is USC doing? LMAO
September 29th, 2009 at 9:49 pm
The bet was for game 1. And he was hurt so…..Nice try. Keep dodging the fact that you cant back up your comments.
1- Said the D was good
2- Cable was the best in years
3- Mike Mitchell is a good player
All dumb and all comments you cant back up.
September 29th, 2009 at 9:51 pm
LOL!!!! Another one goes down. My list is getting longer by the day. COWARD!!
September 29th, 2009 at 9:52 pm
@ alisgod……Dude is a retard. don’t waste your time with his comments. he’s probably 12…..but Mike Mitchell is going to be a hell of a player. He’s fast like all the other Raider bums but he plays and hits HARD!!!!
September 29th, 2009 at 9:58 pm
YEP…..AND?
September 29th, 2009 at 10:00 pm
Rita,
You watch the Denver game?
September 29th, 2009 at 10:06 pm
what about it?
September 29th, 2009 at 10:11 pm
Rita(Alisgod),
Howd Mitchell do when he tried to tackle Moreno?
September 29th, 2009 at 10:18 pm
how many safeties have ever had a RB break a tackle on them? huh? any idea?….no, cuz your stupid. like I said, you must be 12. don’t waste my time telling me about one play. I’ve seen him in college and I saw his preseason and the first three games….you probably didn’t notice that he’s the first guy down the field on punt return coverage and gets the tackle every time either. BTW, did you see Knowshon Moreno in college?….he broke a lot of tackles, which is why he was the first back taken, meanwhile, Mitchell was a middle round pick who was actually about to go to the Bears before the Raiders snatched him. Anyway, don’t waste my time. You obviously don’t know football
September 29th, 2009 at 10:18 pm
SnB and Jhill, you guy’s need some cheese with that whine. We have a very young team that’s learning on the fly, you have to expect that this would be part of this season if you’re realistic. Russell is just too young to read defense and get everyone aligned and make sure that he and the recievers are on the same page.
I watched Bret Fav-Rey struggle badly vs the 49ers due to unfamiliarity with WR’s he and Bernard Berrian can’t connect fro the very sme reasons tha DHB an Russell aren’t connecting. This game is too violent and too fast as many have called it a game of inches. You have to have QB and WR reading the same thing at the same time. Now what is the probability of that happening with rookie WR’s and a very young QB?
In the second half of that game Russell went strickly with the short passing game because the young WR’s weren’t adjusting their routes based on the defense.
Unfortunately the checkdowns went nwhere because Denver knew they were coming. Denver played a great defnsive game against an incompetent offense that was stripped of it’s power, the running game.
Our WR’s do not make sight adjustments and give Russell a target, instead they run the play called forcing Russell to throw into coverage because they don’t know how to get open. If Russell had a great route runner, just one he would fair much better but these kidsare getting their asses kicked by aggressive DB’s that aren’t going to let them run clean routes.
September 29th, 2009 at 10:19 pm
LA will take the team back If not them another city, then you guys won’t have to worry about blackouts cuz they won’t be in your market…,
September 29th, 2009 at 10:20 pm
And until they get to the point where they can absorb the bump and stay on the route or adjust and get open this passing game will struggle………..period
September 29th, 2009 at 10:29 pm
—-”Seahawks signed RB Louis Rankin to their practice squad. He gives Seattle another option to return kicks with Josh Wilson (high ankle sprain) out indefinitely. Rankin probably won’t help in the backfield.”—-
Dammit, Dammit, Dammit… why couldnt they sign him to our PS…
September 29th, 2009 at 10:30 pm
Morning guys…
September 29th, 2009 at 10:32 pm
I was very impressed with Mitchell his moxey is going to be a great addition as he learns the defense. He is a very toough competitor. He is just really late right now on reads but that will change with reps.
We have 4 very good safeties. I realy like th makeup of this team but it’s extremely young and at times it shows and it isn’t a very pretty picture.
DMC has GOT TO GROW UP NOW!!! and we need more MBush desparately.
September 29th, 2009 at 10:39 pm
priest we are suppose to win every game didnt u know that? the world will end as we know it because we lost our 2nd game out of 3. its still early but we are suppose to give up on the season. we know its a young team but alot of people here dont seem to get it. we also dont have our whole team yet and cables playcallin isnt helping us either. he refuses to stick to our strenghts until that passing game slowly gets in order. until he realizes that this will continue.
September 29th, 2009 at 10:44 pm
Yo JERRY AND THE MODs… what about all your talk about banning guys that didnt behave according to your code???
I believe ritaskid, should be banned he clearly breaks your no-no’s
September 29th, 2009 at 10:46 pm
ritaskid where did i say anything about next year. i believe we can win a bit this year if certain guys step up and if cable runs this team the way he is suppose to. u have no choice but to wait cuz young teams dont develope overnight. we have a young TEAM, not a team with young players. jets ravens falcons have more veterans players than us who are established. they also have head coaches who have a complete grasp on what they need to do. we have to be patient whether u like it or not.
September 29th, 2009 at 10:46 pm
# La Milicia Negra Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 10:29 pm
—-”Seahawks signed RB Louis Rankin to their practice squad. He gives Seattle another option to return kicks with Josh Wilson (high ankle sprain) out indefinitely. Rankin probably won’t help in the backfield.”—-
Dammit, Dammit, Dammit… why couldnt they sign him to our PS…
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He should be on our 53 as the 3rd RB. DMac should be the permanent slot receiver. The RB’s should be Bush, Fargas & Rankin. That is of course if we had someone in personnel who knew what the hell they are doing – which we don’t. Rankin = the next Sproules. Our loss – again.
September 29th, 2009 at 10:47 pm
Looking back on the game I can’t help but notice the position that Denver’s first drive put us in. I think the defense played horrendously. The goal line stance was great but had us pinned, and Cable’s bonehead play-calling there doomed us. 10 points right there! And i seriously thought it could’ve been 14. Had that defense of ours started the game well, we might’ve just lost by 10 points. 13-3. Not as glaring as it seemed in reality.
September 29th, 2009 at 10:49 pm
# VanHeathen Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 9:07 pm
Anyone who thinks that LA wants ANYTHING to do with the Raiders is crazy.
When a team gets into that market it will have to have had much recent sucess and unfortunately we don’t qualify.
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Van Heathen is right. The Raiders are not going anywhere near LA. And they are not going to expand the league right now. And SD has just filed to keep the team in San Diego County. That only leaves one option: Say Hello to your Los Angeles Forty Niners!!!!!!!!!!!
September 29th, 2009 at 10:51 pm
I cant believe people are actually talking about drafting Tim Tebow!! JaMarcus may not be the answer but already jumping on the tebow band wagon seems like a very stupid thing to do!!
Pretty pathetic!!
September 29th, 2009 at 10:53 pm
Jaguars are the only option to move to L.A…l.a. does not want the raiders,rams, or chargers…..
Besides.Ed Roskie said the team that moves to l.a. must be for sale!!
September 29th, 2009 at 10:54 pm
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# JB Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 10:46 pm
# La Milicia Negra Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 10:29 pm
—-”Seahawks signed RB Louis Rankin to their practice squad. He gives Seattle another option to return kicks with Josh Wilson (high ankle sprain) out indefinitely. Rankin probably won’t help in the backfield.”—-
Dammit, Dammit, Dammit… why couldnt they sign him to our PS…
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He should be on our 53 as the 3rd RB. DMac should be the permanent slot receiver. The RB’s should be Bush, Fargas & Rankin. That is of course if we had someone in personnel who knew what the hell they are doing – which we don’t. Rankin = the next Sproules. Our loss – again.
September 29th, 2009 at 10:55 pm
JB…
ABSOLUTELY TRUE, I hate when we loose pace because our team are stupid…
September 29th, 2009 at 10:58 pm
# Dude Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 9:04 pm
Denver= over 200 rush yards
KC=175 rush over 400 total
Good D??
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mista brown fan thinks it’s all Rob Ryans fault. Oh right, Ryan is with HIS Cleveland Browns.
September 29th, 2009 at 10:58 pm
JERRY…
get your effing clock working, its 9 minutes wrong now…
get you hamsters to know about NTP…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_Time_Protocol
^^^^^^here is a clue, its pathetic that your guys cant figure out how to run a page, a 16 year old could manage this site better than your hamsters…
September 29th, 2009 at 11:01 pm
JaBeefRoll is awful right now but he will get a little better with time. As long as he can hand off 85% of the time he’ll do. We need smash-mouth linemen. That’s what we need to draft.
OLT – move Super Mario to RT
C – big, mean, tough & bright
RG – same as C
DT – Another Seymour type
MLB – A run stopper
C/G – Back-up
DT – Back-up
OT – Back-up
Games are won in the pits. Championships are won with defense.
September 29th, 2009 at 11:02 pm
Armond, post #518 is on the money, if we don’t except the fact that we have to play great defense and run the football we will have some very frustrating games. The formula the 49ers are using is exactly what we should be doing. Run Bush and hit them with DMCon the perimeter but DMC must become more reliable That first play when Russell ran the screen to him he has to d something with that football. If picks up 10+ yards we are different. But he slips and falls and then fumbles………….uuuggh! man! this guy has got to get his groove on. He is so dangerous in open field but he rarely gets there because he’s always falling down.
DMC should be our Percy Harvin but we’re trying to make him OJ Simpson, he’s just not that player. Get him out in space and get him the football. Run Bush inside an screen him. And this is a completely different team. Run Fargas and Bush an use DMC smartly to isolate him on LB’s.
Hell put DMC in the slot and let him go to work.
September 29th, 2009 at 11:06 pm
what about this, make Jamarcus our RT, and re-invent the wildcat, get the lineman to make some trick passes…. or is that illegal, LOL…. dammit =)
September 29th, 2009 at 11:06 pm
dmc will make plays this weekend preistt. that oline needs to dominate in the running game as well. ilike mitchells energy as well imma tell u that branch brings the wood with every tackle also. cj and namdi have been pretty good tackling and jamming guys at the line. if only our lb’s would play that physical. i still say kelly has got become a force now with seymour and ellis on that dline. he has no excuse to be disappearing from games like he does.
September 29th, 2009 at 11:06 pm
BHP…
I hope you mean “accept”…
September 29th, 2009 at 11:09 pm
priest we pretty much agree on everything except this dmc between the tackles issue. he is a feature back not some change of pace guy. he needs touches to be effective. he may not get going until his 12th carry. he doesnt wear down like some think. he should run every kind of running play possible along with pass routes. he should also be used in the wildcat 3-5 times a game. the way houston nutt used him is the way we should use him. the coaches just dont use any imagination with him. the problem is bush is also a workhorse who needs touches. i say let them touch the ball 35-40 times total for now to see how it works. thats passes and runs total.
September 29th, 2009 at 11:12 pm
This article was very hard for me to swallow!!
This pretty much says it all!!
FCUK RUSSELL!!! Please read:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/263687-oakland-raiders-is-jamarcus-russell-betraying-raider-nation
September 29th, 2009 at 11:13 pm
we have a morning briefing in 10 minutes time… if you all are gone when i get back, take care and sleep tight =)
September 29th, 2009 at 11:14 pm
DMac doesn’t ave the right build for RB. He’s top heavy with thin pins. Think of him as a cheetah. He fast and maneuverable in the open but he’s NOT a close quarters banger. He’s goes down in high winds. He will never be a between the tackles runner. Just not going to happen. Using him as a RB screen all the time is not going to work either. The only way he’s a threat every time is if he’s in the slot, as a receiver mismatched on a LB. He does have good hands so why not use him where he can contribute?
September 29th, 2009 at 11:16 pm
Raider Dee that article was a complete POS. First off, Tollner had nothing to do with Air Coryell, and was not near the “Greatest Show on Turf” teams. They should have said, Tollner was the offensive coach for a couple of Jim Kelly/James Lofton Buffalo Bills team, and oversaw a very disappointing SD offense under Dan Henning. If that article cannot get Tollner’s basic credentials right, why would any other part of it be deemed reputable??
September 29th, 2009 at 11:18 pm
T Kelly’s last game was very disappointing. He has to be a force inside………….period. Morrison is leaving a lot to be desired and I know they exposed him with those iso’s, but he has to be more physical inside.
Armond I’ve waited a lng time to se safety play lik we’re seeing this year it is outstanding from all 4 guy’s. Our corner play is very good to outstanding. Rickey Brown and T Howard have played great at times. Morrison is still MIA.
If they would get DMC outside and ge him the ball the same way the use Percy Harvin and Reggi Bush he would be a great addition. He is not a great HB but he can play there at times and give us some juice. But the running game must be Bush and Fargas IMHO.
September 29th, 2009 at 11:18 pm
Get Rankin back now by adding him to our 53 man squad. He can & will contribute.
Fix this damn blog: Post timing and posting too quick message.
September 29th, 2009 at 11:19 pm
JB, I said that a million times before we drafted DMC but NO ONE listened.
September 29th, 2009 at 11:19 pm
Rankin is in Seattle now dude!!
Forget him!!
September 29th, 2009 at 11:23 pm
No one played well on Sun……
It was a bad team loss….with JMAC and DMAC playing worse than anybody else!!
I dont worry about DMAC…..I wish I could say the same for JMAC?
September 29th, 2009 at 11:25 pm
Armond, DMC canot take that pounding if you play him there consistently he will have a very short career. He is cut way too high (long legs) doesn’t have the cutting ability and cannot string moves together. He lacks real vision in the hole and cannot jump cut. If you use him sparingly as a HB and split him out as well as in the slot he’ll have a great career and put up some serious #’s. If you try to make him AP he will last 4 years max.
September 29th, 2009 at 11:25 pm
# Raider-DEE Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 11:19 pm
Rankin is in Seattle now dude!!
Forget him!!
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He’s on Seattle’s practice squad. He can be claimed from there and signed if he’s added to a 53 man squad. At least that’s how I understand the issue. I will not forget him as he can ultimately be Bush’s Sproules if we can get him back. Fargas will do but 3 is always better than 2 & Fargas has a history with injuries.
September 29th, 2009 at 11:27 pm
Priest I have to agree Kelly was a BIG disappointment in the last game. The only time he got ANY penetration, he was actually DUPED on a designed screen play that LET HIM rush up field, and then they had a four lineman convoy lead the back down the field for 26 yards early in the 2nd half. Nice one TK! Cut his fat lame ass!
September 29th, 2009 at 11:29 pm
Raider-DEE Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 11:12 pm
This article was very hard for me to swallow!!
This pretty much says it all!!
FCUK RUSSELL!!! Please read:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/263687-oakland-raiders-is-jamarcus-russell-betraying-raider-nation
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WOW … I can’t believe anyone would defend this bum.
JaMarcus ranked #33 QB in a 32 team league … what a joke. Well at least he is eating good just like his buddy said.
September 29th, 2009 at 11:29 pm
priest..
Ap is not a big guy either man….
Ap will only last 5yrs…watch… he never runs outta bounds…that will catch up with him as well!!
He takes a lotta hits!!
September 29th, 2009 at 11:30 pm
priest dmc isnt a great back yet but he will be. u gotta be patient with him just like u want guys to be with russell. he is better than reggie bush. give dmc more carries and youll see. we need to use dhb like the vikes use harvin. morrison is soft as hell in the middle. i like him but he doesnt pop people like we need him to. on those shallow crosses he shouldve played up a little bit and attacked the cross. not once did he angle the slot (marshall gaffney) to the middle and pop them as soon as the ball was thrown.
September 29th, 2009 at 11:31 pm
Yea…Raiderlax!!
I lost all respect for him!
Screw that dude!!
I hope someone breaks his fricken leg!!
He SUCKS anyway!!
September 29th, 2009 at 11:33 pm
I expect that article to spread like wild fire…. let see if JaBlubber can back peddle away from this one??
I think he just dug his own grave!!
September 29th, 2009 at 11:35 pm
Losing Louis Rankin was an unfortunate risk we had to take. Because of the lack of any ST’s talent. That kid is a real talent IMO if he gets the chance up there someone will lose their job.
Rankin IMO was the most skilled runner we had aside from Bush and trust me MBush is a very skilled runner with twice the moves of DMC eventhough he’s 30 lbs. heavier. If yu watch Denver’s runner the aren’t burners like DMC but they are very skilled. And they gave us hell and will continue to do so to every team they play.
Moreno is everything that DMC isn’t he can jump cut, has great vision in the hole and runs behind his pads. Moreno is a very instinctive runner with top teir skills.
September 29th, 2009 at 11:38 pm
Post #546 boy! talk about old news…….
Got anything recent?
September 29th, 2009 at 11:41 pm
# Raider-DEE Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 11:29 pm
priest..
Ap is not a big guy either man….
Ap will only last 5yrs…watch… he never runs outta bounds…that will catch up with him as well!!
He takes a lotta hits!!
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You are probably right. But te major difference between AP & DMac is that AP is a real NFL RB. DMac is NOT a banger and that’s what is needed in an NFL RB.
Todd Christensen was not a great RB. But, he was converted to TE and became a real force. DMac can contribute and excel at the slot WR position. We need to stop trying to make him something he isn’t. College defenses are not like NFL defenses. He’s now in the big leagues and yes there is a BIG difference. He will NOT be successful as a RB.
September 29th, 2009 at 11:45 pm
i wouldve given marshall the middle all day just by angling myself to the middle but playin up more so he doesnt get the chance to dance at the los. make the slot guy make a quick decision to get to the middle or break his route to the sideline. you then can be in a position to jump the route quicker or be at a spot to pop the wr as soon as he gets the ball. it would also allow u to get physical with the guy right away.
September 29th, 2009 at 11:45 pm
u guys underestimate dmc too much. he still has time to grow. fargas couldnt break a tackle to save his life and his vision is still questioned by some now. fargas runs with more authority than he ever did. dmc stiil gets more ypc than reggie tho he tries to out run his opponents. he may be trying to do too much since the offense is struggling. his fumbling bothers me more than anythingelse. lets not act like bush has set the world on fire. he got stuffed alot last year in between the kc and tampa games last year. dmc will hold up and he has better running skills than u give him credit for. we just disagree but he is going to have to step, it up they all do.
September 29th, 2009 at 11:51 pm
kelly is a waste of space right now. he provides nothing in the middle. no impact plays on back to back downs. no game changing plays to speak of. u dont even notice him out there half the time. we are soft in the middle outside of our safties. my dream scenario next year is to get either peppers or kampman outsside and put seymour in the middle. pickup brandon spikes and get an athletic run stuffer in the draft within the first 3 picks.
September 29th, 2009 at 11:52 pm
Armond DMC has the ability to be great if he works at it and understands the nuances of running out of the I, he used to running out of the Wildcat which is a gimmick. Running out of the I takes a lot of toughness and when he gets hit he gets jarred and shaken. I saw it at Arkansas he must run very low to deliver the blow due to thefact that he’s cut so high.
I’m ot at all saying he can do it, I’m saying he doesn’t do it. He has got to learn to cut and lean so he doesn’t take such vicious hits. And his arms are long and lean which allows the ball to be exposed more than what is normal. If you look at DHB he is actually biult better than DMC for running the football.
He has to change an aweful lot to ever be great.
September 30th, 2009 at 12:03 am
hey priest i will give u this one. if anyone wanted to give us a 1rst rounder for dmc im good with that if it meant us getting jahvid best. id take best over dmc in a heartbeat. i believe he will be better than chris johnson. bush and best would make a better tandem cuz jahvid doesnt need to touch the ball as much as dmc and he can do everything he can do. he is also a better open field runner.
September 30th, 2009 at 12:19 am
Could Jeff Garcia be BACK IN BLACK?
http://www.raidernationstation.com/exclusives
With Davis, you never know.
I agree, Jamarcus is likely it.
September 30th, 2009 at 5:51 am
Gannon is right on with his assessments. He is a supportive but realistic person when it comes to dealing with the Raiders. He’s simply saying what we all are thinking. This has less to do with Gannon and everything to do with our team.
Owners like Al Davis are like diapers: they should be changed often and for the same reason.
September 30th, 2009 at 6:10 am
Whats your issue? Gannon is right on time and since when was it NOT ok to criticize a team during a broadcast.
The guys on Sportscenter flat out laugh at the Raiders. Give me a break.
Al Davis is like some whining, moody teenager throwing a tandrum. Get a life you old moron, concentrate on your loser team!
September 30th, 2009 at 9:03 am
Not that Russel doesn’t bite, but I just looked and Denver has #1 defense in NFL.
September 30th, 2009 at 9:04 am
Garcia will just hurt his calf again and lay there like a soccer player hoping for his yellow card,
Or whatever color it is.
September 30th, 2009 at 11:33 am
Look we are building a team. Sometimes you gamble when you take a QB,REC,RB,and as well as every other draft pick. Al took a gamble with Jamarcus needless to say another was taken with Darious(REC). Jamarcus will be a bust unless the RAIDERS staff put their foot in his ass. HE has always been so big to where he didn’t have to work that hard such as work ethic. They said they had to “simplify the playbook” for Russel. Do you think that other teams simplified their playbook for Rothlesburger, Mannings,or Brady. Not at all, in fact they knew what it took to “fight right” to win a game and be a good QB.I doubt that they had to simplify the playbook for Gannon. He knew that he had to work hard to be a good/starting QB. So he knew first hand what it takes. He knew because he was a backup, and backups need to study the playbook in and out.Look at Romo he was a backup and he worked hard to get to where he is at.However now that he is there he has gotten lazy and now doesn’t work as hard and it shows in his performance. Jamarcus had to work hard in college because in college it is a cutthroat business,either you learn to win or you don’t play.
September 30th, 2009 at 11:44 am
Gannon can give his opinion on the RAIDERS because he has earned the right. If you can’t be criticized how will you improve. Everyone takes criticizing as a bad thing. Who hasn’t got a bad grade in their life. Its to make an improvement on what your doing wrong, and right now we are doing alot of things wrong.We need to stop treating these premadonnas like their the golden boys and teach them to eat a huge piece of “hubmle pie”.Then they can look on how to improve instead of thinking “oh I’m great and it will just happen”.Quit whining you nancy little girls because if you were so good then why hasn’t it happened yet. Huff knew that he had to work harder this year or he might be traded or cut. and his hard work paid off.
September 30th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
Hey, back in ‘44 and ‘45, when an infamous Bavarian Corporal didn’t like his generals’ advice, he would have them take poison pills, thus shutting them up forever.
Al Davis has his own Storm Troopers in guys like Mr. Sunshine, John Herrera, who is the “public bad guy” persona to squash even the hint of a negative comment from any public, free speech forum or media person.
When guys like Gannon — guys who know what really goes on behind the scenes at Paranoia Central — speak the hard truth, what else can Herrera do but badmouth him? That’s what he’s paid to do. Conversely, the Raider sponsored radio and TV schills have to side-step sticky subjects such as: why a team with an offensive line that can’t pass block pins it’s first round picks on fleet wide receivers who can’t catch and strong armed quarterbacks who can’t hit a moving target in a 1960’s-era vertical offense.
Does anyone out there expect ANYTHING different so long as Heir Al is calling all the shots from his Alameda bunker?
September 30th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
Let’s face it Gannon was a great QB for the Raiders. All this BS now is Al channeling his walker. Al has surrounded himself with puppets that can only
spout the company(Al’s) line. As the Titanic (Raiders) slip below the waves, the
fans need to wake up! If you spend your hardearned dollars or valuable time
on this sh-t the blame rests with you. Al is in a bad spot at the moment.
Calling all vampire killers! Bring stakes! Stop the madness. Vince Lombardi
couldn’t turn this around! Until Al is out or dead(Keep your garlic handy)
nothing, I repeat nothing will change. The only Raider wins will be seen on best of DVD’s from the 70’s and 80’s. Love the comments, but really take your frustrations out on ticket sales and quit buying the merchandise. Quit supporting Al!!!!!!!!
January 29th, 2010 at 2:36 am
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