Howard tweets return of J. Miller
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, September 29th, 2009 at 11:53 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Thomas Howard beat his own organization’s Twitter account to the punch, announcing the Raiders had brought back kickoff return specialist Justin Miller.
Howard’s Twitter account said: RaiderNation let’s welcome back #22 Justin Miller. He’ll be returning KickOffs for us this week.
Jonathan Holland returned kickoffs in place of Louis Rankin against Denver and was stopped inside the 20-yard line twice before finishing with a 31-yard return.
Miller had two touchdowns for the Raiders returning kickoffs last season. After a poor preseason finale in the secondary, Miller was cut, with undrafted free agent Nick Miller getting the job. Nick Miller, however, was diagnosed with a broken bone above his shin in the week preceding the opener.
Justin Miller had worked out recently with the Tennessee Titans.
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September 29th, 2009 at 11:55 pm
Wow. Seriously.
September 29th, 2009 at 11:58 pm
Jerry, Al Davis is broke. How long before he has to sell his controlling interest? If he doesn’t sell it, the league will take the team over when he runs out of money and can’t fund the day to day operations, right? God speed. You can’t wish death on people. But you can certainly wish bankruptcy on them. Keep managing the team into the ground, Al. And keep watching your capital fizzle into thin air.
September 30th, 2009 at 12:05 am
This is HUGE!!!!!!!!!
Our KR’s have been dismal to say the least. If he can come in and give us wat he gave us last year and JLH get back to normal it will go a long way to getting us healthy.
Unfortunately his getting cut cost us Louis Rankin, we would never have exposed Rankin to the waiver wire for Holland if we had Miller from the beginning.
Very expensive personnel moves. We lost an outstanding talent in Rankin and Seattle saw that in the preseason.
September 30th, 2009 at 12:06 am
Rankin will be cut soon enough!!
He is not a game changer, atleast not right now!!
Maybe next yr for rankin!!
September 30th, 2009 at 12:10 am
hey priest i will give u this one. if anyone wanted to give us a 1rst rounder for dmc im good with that if it meant us getting jahvid best. id take best over dmc in a heartbeat. i believe he will be better than chris johnson. bush and best would make a better tandem cuz jahvid doesnt need to touch the ball as much as dmc and he can do everything he can do. he is also a better open field runner.
September 30th, 2009 at 12:13 am
Armond, Jahvid Best is in a word “incredible” now that’s the type of player I’m talking about, he has it all. he’s physical and explosive has great moves in open field and in traffic. I was saying just the other day we have to take a long look at Best and find a buyer for DMC. Now that would be a truely great move.
September 30th, 2009 at 12:14 am
losing rathman was huge loss to our staff along with schneider. i wonder why we didnt just resign miller when it was obvious n miller couldnt go before the season opener. we need to start using brandon meyers more with z miller. i dont understand why cable wont unleash some of this young talent waiting to make plays.
September 30th, 2009 at 12:15 am
The running back is fumbling like crazy and hasn’t appraoched 100 yard game since last year. We need this kid NOW he is exatly what we need to take the pressure off the passing game and he has all year to show that he can do that. Stop the crap!!
Now he has to get it done………period!
September 30th, 2009 at 12:15 am
Man,
So you guys want to change the RB when the QB and the crazy owner are the biggest problem!!
WOW!!
September 30th, 2009 at 12:16 am
Why not let Dmac prove it starting Sunday????
September 30th, 2009 at 12:17 am
BEST looked very sorry against that Oregon defense!! And wait n’ see how bad he looks against USC……
McFadden is a lot better…
Soryy Armond….. Best is not as good as Dmac!!
September 30th, 2009 at 12:21 am
Everything really sucks around here when you analysis all the garbage that comes out, week, after week.
For an example: Al Davis “screwed” us really bad with the hiring of Rob Ryan and kept him here for six years, because Ryan played the non-pressure defense that Al wanted. Ryan was cool with that. Hell, he collected his checks for six years, stayed twice as fat as Ja(fatburger)Marcus and had his long grubby hair flying in the wind.
Who does Davis get us as a defensive coordinator? Marshall, who, like moran Al Davis, doesn’t believe in pressure, even when your defense puts no pressure and we’re getting run over every week. Another point for Davis on the score card: I screwed my fans.
Davis is actually committing criminal acts against the fans and the franchise by running everything into the ground. The man is an idoit and a senile moran. What’s funny and out of this world is that there are still many crazy fans that actually support Davis and treat him as a God who will one day return us to the promise land. Wake up call: It’s not going to happen. We’ll remain under 500 for as long as Davis is the owner and in control of this franchise. Expect years and years of this same garbage.
September 30th, 2009 at 12:24 am
im actually hopin we do that. he does exactly thesame thing dmc does but better in a huge way. yes the raiders should look into that next year if possible. the fun part about this time of year is that u can get alook at what your team may need next year and see what players in college interest you. call me a football geek but i love this time of year. playoffs or not im always lookin at the next wave of young raiders.
September 30th, 2009 at 12:25 am
dee oregon defense dominated that whole game man. cal never shows up in big games. and dmc aint a whole lot better than best. i like dmc alot and im for makin this team better. if u gave me best and dmc in the same draft i go with best everytime. he has better moves in the open field, can catch just as good, can line up anywhere on the field and can run between the the tackles breaking tackles. tell me one thing dmc can do that best cant do. and best is a LONG DISTANCE runner so u dont worry about him gettin caught from behind much. sorry but i think best is better if they were in the same draft class.
September 30th, 2009 at 12:26 am
It’s all up to Dmac to shut us up, he is too talented to be a nonfactor week in week out.
Get it DONE……………period
Everyone cried for Dmac to start, well he’s starting and let’s see some greatness. Or else let’s look elsewhere, Knowshon Moreno looked twice the player. Chris Johnson has outplayed Dmac from day 1. I know injuries have been a huge factor but he’s healty now show us why you were worth that pick.
Russell gets a lot o flack from Raider fans and Dmac has essentially gotten none. The rest of this year I want to see some greatness. Unless he’s injured.
September 30th, 2009 at 12:44 am
lol. Greatness. Priest, why don’t we just work on 6 wins? Right now, that’s the mountain.
September 30th, 2009 at 12:46 am
Cancun, seen this blog?
http://aldavissucks.blogspot.com/
It’s real. You can click on it. I know it looks like a joke.
September 30th, 2009 at 1:01 am
priesttj Says:
September 30th, 2009 at 12:26 am
It’s all up to Dmac to shut us up,
………..
Same goes for Al Davis.
September 30th, 2009 at 3:09 am
This Sunday is it. If we win, there’s still hope left in the season. Lose, and forget it. Might as well start a pool on which of these guys will be the HC next year:
Jim Fassel
Rob Ryan (who will be looking for work in a few months)
Rick Neuweasel
Dennis Green
Kevin Gilbride
What I’d really love to see is Al hire some bright young assistant GM from the Colts, Patriots, Steelers, Eagles or Giants, give him a 5-year contract with total control, then get out of the way.
Oh, wait a minute. That’s right. That would be how a *sane* organization would handle it. Can’t have that, now can we?
September 30th, 2009 at 3:13 am
About time!!!
the slowest organization in history, btw they should have done this way before, and cut holland to get him so we still had Rankin..
September 30th, 2009 at 3:22 am
WHEN THE RAIDERS leave the field Sunday in Houston, no matter the outcome, they will have wrapped up the worst 100-game period in their 50-year history.
Now at 25-74, Oakland is assured of being worse over the last 100 than Detroit (27-72) or Cleveland — or even the first 100 of the Tampa Bay Bucs (35-64-1).
Now I’m really depressed.
September 30th, 2009 at 3:35 am
“Oh my God, Oh my God, Oh my God, Mrs Obama is in town” yaaawn!
September 30th, 2009 at 3:39 am
Neil B, ohhh noooo, but at least we can say this, we are really committed to be excellent, I mean no one sucks more than us… of all the losers we are at 1st! yeah take that, steelers, patsies, cowgirls, you will never be able to suck as much as our team does…
September 30th, 2009 at 3:41 am
—”Seahawks released RB Devin Moore from their practice squad. They believe that former Raider Louis Rankin has more potential.”—
hmm, well of course…
September 30th, 2009 at 4:23 am
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September 30th, 2009 at 4:29 am
In agreement with Priest. McFadden HAS to deliver..NOW!
September 30th, 2009 at 4:35 am
Good Morning NATION!!!
September 30th, 2009 at 4:54 am
Rankin had so much more upside than Fargas. We should have kept him!
I like Fargas, but he’s not going to get on the field and Rankin would have developed, maybe even better than McFumble.
September 30th, 2009 at 5:31 am
McDaddy can look for a wrestling match every time he encounters a pile up… people are not going to want him down… they’re going to want to stand him up and hack at the ball…
he needs to sit and watch… a game or two ought to convey the importance of ball security…
right now i am so discouraged with this team… i was so impressed with the effort against SanDiego… and now we have… what??? zombies…
zombie football…
September 30th, 2009 at 5:36 am
raider duck says
What I’d really love to see is Al hire some bright young assistant GM from the Colts, Patriots, Steelers, Eagles or Giants, give him a 5-year contract with total control, then get out of the way.
Oh, wait a minute. That’s right. That would be how a *sane* organization would handle it. Can’t have that, now can we?
or COWHER but that aint gonna happen because big al wants things done his way which r antiqiuted and useless and we r gonna suck until this team is allowed to play 21st century football
September 30th, 2009 at 5:37 am
this whole mess has to do with drafting from the outside in…
i really thought we should have gone after Breeze… good, experienced quarterbacks are hard to find… and the raiders have experienced good results with these “old-timers”…
the way the draft works these days… if it were my money… i would simply announce before the draft that i have no intention of paying first round money to whoever i draft… then i would promptly draft a 3rd round caliber fellow… and tell him 3rd round money will be the offer… take it… leave it… retire… i would not care…
big money should go to big players…
russell, mcfadden, heyward bey are not big players… they weren’t on draft day… and it doesn’t appear that they are now… but between them, they account for a big part of the payroll…
money that could go and should go to signing legitimate big time players…
drafting for need is a heck of an idea… it all starts up front… lineman… offense and defense… draft them, try them out… toss the losers… run with the winners…
Gibbs proved years ago that an outstanding line can create a probowl quarterback… the opposite is not true…
russell may very well turn into the pro-bowler we all hope he will eventually be… but the cost of training him is huge… losing while he learns… paying him all-pro money while he learns… and here’s what’s really special…
his appreciation when his contract is up… and assuming he does become the franchise QB we are all hoping for… is to demand as much money as he can or find a new team…
IMHO… Breeze was a missed opportunity…
September 30th, 2009 at 5:52 am
Pete so right.
The system is SCREWED up. You draft a guy in the first round and he’s one of the biggest earners on your team from day one. Then it takes 3-4 years before they figure it out. Then they become free agents and get angry when they get franchised!??!!
The NFL draft and the way the contracts are done are destroying the game!
September 30th, 2009 at 5:53 am
I would rather have BREES….but get your drift hæ hæ
September 30th, 2009 at 5:53 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
I was wondering when they were going to realize that Miller was our best option.
September 30th, 2009 at 5:54 am
Good morning Raider Nation!!! All is well……yesterday I emailed David White and asked him if anyone can get the scoop on why Cable isn’t even considering starting Walker over DHB. I would think that Walker, even though he isn’t as fast as DHB he is without a soubt a better rout runner, has better hands, and valuable experience. I just feel we are being cheated cause they are playing politics over there, put the guys on the field that will help the team, DHB has only proven to be a liability at the moment more than anything else….if Walker is a dud then we would know, but by not even considering him to start in any games to see if he is back to form like is says he is simply retarded…..and im still waiting on my response from David white
September 30th, 2009 at 5:56 am
I agree with you Dirty…Start Walker…what’s the harm?
September 30th, 2009 at 5:59 am
That’s my thoughts Hwndr but Cable is being a stubborn aHole like he was last year with keeping in Kwame Harris
September 30th, 2009 at 6:04 am
Start WALKER…make him run crossing routes underneath and be the possession WR JaHambone needs.
September 30th, 2009 at 6:06 am
Lmfao!!! jaambone? I think id just heard emm all…….unless there’s more!!!!lmao!!!
September 30th, 2009 at 6:16 am
Btw he does have a lot of ham!!!! Lmfao!!!!!
September 30th, 2009 at 6:16 am
Besides, Walker got paid big money to come here. Even though he restructured, he still is getting paid huge amounts…and to not start him or activate him????
September 30th, 2009 at 6:18 am
Yeah the raiders don’t care about that they are just throwing their money away, and getting zero return on investments
September 30th, 2009 at 6:20 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S. THE MIGHTY HOUSTON TEXAN’S,SCARY HUH ?
September 30th, 2009 at 6:25 am
What’s up dirtlot, LMN WHAT’S GOOD?! Yeah I don’t know about the texans how is their defense? Mario Henderson won thefirst battle with the Mario across from him. I hope he can do it again
September 30th, 2009 at 6:27 am
how about “Jam-it-where-ever-it-ends-up-arcus”…
September 30th, 2009 at 6:27 am
who said dumbest organization in the league… well I for one, did…
September 30th, 2009 at 6:28 am
VERY FRUSTRATING L M N ,WHY DONT U AND ROCKSTAR THROW SOME OF YOUR MILLION’S AT AL, BUY THE TEAM,PUT THE ORGANISATION BACK ON THE MAP…
September 30th, 2009 at 6:29 am
dirtlot…
hell yeah! we will lose 27-3 or 23-7 or something, we will have a battle to get 100 yards…
September 30th, 2009 at 6:30 am
welcome back Justin Miller!
did anybody really think that J. Miller was going to be a shutdown man-to-man corner with turf toe ???
he serves one purpose. kickoff returns
goodbye Rankin. goodbye Holland
WR Nick Miller isn’t even needed unless they decide to cut Javon Walker …
September 30th, 2009 at 6:34 am
Good morning Nation,
See this article on the the last thread, wanted to post it again for the morning crew. Of course a bunch of unnamed sources, but it doesn’t help anything:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/263687-oakland-raiders-is-jamarcus-russell-betraying-raider-nation
September 30th, 2009 at 6:36 am
you know… if we didn’t have any talent at all… i could understand the past two games…
routt should never see the field… he should never get another check with the Raiders logo on it…
Bush should be the main back…
put your best receivers out there… and one of those is not Heyward-Bey… who, by the way, does NOT deserve to have a hyphen in his name… he needs to earn that freaking hyphen… in the meantime his name should be “fastguy”…
Russell should be pulled after his first 8 throws if his completion percentage is less than .500… hell, even Elway got pulled in favor of Gary Kubiak early in his career… yeah, the guy we’re about to face this weekend…
i’m sick of Zombie Football…
September 30th, 2009 at 6:36 am
Lol I like that one Fla pete
September 30th, 2009 at 6:36 am
Good luck with that Rockstar, I think we will see a lot more of Fargas this weekend. Can’t blame Cable if he goes that direction, and Darren would have no one to blame but himself.
Not calling him D-Mac anymore, he isn’t good enough for a cool nickname. He is now Darren.
September 30th, 2009 at 6:36 am
I’m starting Darren McFadden on my fantasy football team this week. Over Clinton Portis & Lendale White.
Texans defense has allowed HUGE days to Thomas Jones, Chris Johnson & Maurice Jones-Drew the past 3 weeks.
McFadden will come in eager to prove he can get it done AND hang on to the football.
September 30th, 2009 at 6:38 am
Offthemarcus Russell
September 30th, 2009 at 6:39 am
Dirt Lot: good morning!
Al Davis will never sell the team. When he passes away, he’ll pass it down to his wife & son. His son will be owner and he’ll hire a GM. Unless that guy is Matt Millen we’ll start winning some football games imo
September 30th, 2009 at 6:39 am
cheese and wine, cheese and wine….
September 30th, 2009 at 6:41 am
RRS..
maybe a good call, but those 3 players aren’t playing for the raiders… and they are NOT McFadden..
he sure will be eager, but all that eager will just result in a few dusin fumbles
September 30th, 2009 at 6:41 am
Dirtlot…
I want Michael Schumacher to buy the team, anything he touches turns into gold…. him and Tiger woods would be great owners imo… but it wont happen, Al will live another 20 years and we will get tons of 6 win seasons…
but that his son isnt a self-proclaimed coach is very good thing, that means we actually could get an owner in the Kraft-mold who let those who know football do their thing…
for honestly Al did know football, just not todays ballgame, he stopped understanding the game some time in the 80’s…
September 30th, 2009 at 6:44 am
Louis Rankin went to the Seaturds? no !!!
should we trade Fargas to get him back?
where is Adimchinobe Echemandu? aka “Joe”
we need that guy..
September 30th, 2009 at 6:44 am
EVERY THING IS 4SALE ROCKSTAR, FINDING A PERSON’S PRICE IS ANOTHER THING.. GOOD MORNING 2 U 2 , DIRTYBATHWATER,HWNDR.
September 30th, 2009 at 6:45 am
I don’t understand all the hate on Darrius Heyward-Bey.
He’s dropped as many passes as Zach Miller this year…
He’s NFL ready and he’s a great route runner. the knock on him coming out was “inconsistant hands” and he hasn’t had many chances to showcase them for the good or bad
There have been 6 passes thrown his way in 3 games. only 3 of those were catchable balls. he caught one. got tripped by a dungver player on another and dropped 1 pass.
He deserves better at the QB position. he’s playing the role of a decoy. doing his job. also has excellent blocking skills for a rookie
YOU PEOPLE need to shut it.
-a true fan
September 30th, 2009 at 6:48 am
Florida Pete Says:
September 30th, 2009 at 5:31 am
McDaddy can look for a wrestling match every time he encounters a pile up… people are not going to want him down… they’re going to want to stand him up and hack at the ball…
he needs to sit and watch… a game or two ought to convey the importance of ball security…
right now i am so discouraged with this team… i was so impressed with the effort against SanDiego… and now we have… what??? zombies…
zombie football…
September 30th, 2009 at 6:49 am
RRS…
we can still get Rankin back, all we need is to sign him to the 53man roster… he is only on their PS..
September 30th, 2009 at 6:52 am
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September 30th, 2009 at 6:55 am
Javon Walker should be our 3rd WR. He should be inside with Miller. Murphy & DHB on the outside.
the Raiders are going to run the football AT WILL against the Texans and be 2-2 on Sunday afternoon.
September 30th, 2009 at 6:58 am
What about chaz?? Let Walker be on the out side and murphy in the slot he’s a better route runner than DHB
September 30th, 2009 at 6:59 am
Rockstar,
I think the fans are more upset that DHB is being force-feed into the starting lineup and on the field for almost every snap. Clearly he is not ready to be a starter at this stage in his career, which is very normal for a young WR, it is not just DHB. A great learner experience it could be, unless he loses all confidence and develops bad habits.
I just want to see him go up and get some of these balls, even in preseason he looked tentative. I don’t think it is any suprise that he played better and looked more comy in KC. The dirt (awful) and the pressure of playing at home is getting to him a little, IMO.
He should have a catch or two at least this weekend. Houston is a mediocre team that can beat almost anyone and also lose to anyone. They remind of the Hostetler Raiders of LA, can be great at times, waiting to break out, but always end up somewhere between 7-9 and 9-7.
September 30th, 2009 at 7:00 am
WHAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH WALKER ANYWAY (INJURY WISE) ?
September 30th, 2009 at 7:01 am
Vegas that’s a good assesment bro im in full agrement
September 30th, 2009 at 7:02 am
DBW: Murphy is fast, but drops some passes. Walker isn’t fast after 4 knee operation, but has sure hands. If anybody is going deep to stretch the field, it’s DHB, Murphy or Higgins.
I don’t expect Chaz Schilens to showcase blazing speed in his first game back. I know he’s listed as “questionable” , but I think it’d be stupid to rush him on the field this week and risk a more devastating injury. He just started running a few days ago according to Jerry Mac
September 30th, 2009 at 7:06 am
Oh ok RRS, I see. It will take a while before chaz is back, im just longing to see what Javon has to offer….with all that good news about him looking just as fast b4 injury that jerry reported in the off season, it just bewilders me how he says he is 100% and cable don’t even want to see him out there
September 30th, 2009 at 7:07 am
YOU PEOPLE are acting as if DHB has adequate play at the QB position.
remember what Randy Moss’ numbers were like in Oakland with Kerry Collins, Andrew Walter & Aaron Brooks throwing to him?
then compare that to what Randy Moss looked like in Minnesota & New England.
Russell is the WORST starting QB in the league. In fact, I’m pretty sure some backups on other teams are better than he is.
Heyward-Bey will never reach his full potential until he has a QB who can get the job done and throw him some accurate passes…
-a true fan
September 30th, 2009 at 7:07 am
The silver-lining with DHB is that he is a good blocker, already.
Some will laugh, and he has to do more than block to play, but hear me out.
To be a good blocker, at any position, it takes more than size and good technique, you have to want to kick the guy’s azz lining up across from you and not back down. It is a very mental thing, ESPECIALLY at the WR position. If he continues to work and carries this determination to out-will his opponent, he should be good once he gets an offense that can get him the ball.
September 30th, 2009 at 7:17 am
DBW: couldn’t agree more
Javon Walker is healthy, but apparently in the doghouse. You know it’s bad when Holland & Watkins are on the field before he is!
you gave the man his money, now give the man a chance to earn it!
September 30th, 2009 at 7:28 am
This is how I see it, maybe im wrong on this but. The last game there was an altercation between DHB and Murphy about route running. Apparently DHB isn’t doing a good job he’s a rookie I understand that. The first int russell threw I think was acutally a well thrown pass. He has the db beat and had coverage from safety with the underneath to his advantage but he trips over the guys feet…. the second was a pass that was high but Dhb could have ran his route better Imo to avoid contact with the defender, maybe that’s a completed pass…. DHB even has more drops than catches granted I know russell has ben awful, but when he has put it on DHB it waas dropped he needs time but I really don’t think he’s ready to start like many of you have said already
September 30th, 2009 at 7:30 am
You know, if they don’t come out and play their buts off these next two weeks…don’t expect any sell outs the rest of the year…The Giants on the 11th, well…Usi is going to have a field day with Russell if he doesn’t step up now! Garcia was released yesterday (surprise, surprise)…I heard he may be going to the Rams…
September 30th, 2009 at 7:33 am
Just Die Baby!!! This organization will only change for the better when Al “the cancer” Davis is dead. He refuses to let anyone help so he would rather lose with his guys & his way than win with someone else like Gruden. Best thing to do is boycott all games until Al either gives up power, commits suicide or just plain dies. Nothing will change until then. 6+ season of different players & coaches, but always the same results. Thanks Al for driving the Raiders right into the ground.
September 30th, 2009 at 7:46 am
Lmfao!!!! Dakota now that’s funny! Oh yeah I forgot about Lal… wow and he’s a better WR coach than Lofton? Hmmmm
September 30th, 2009 at 7:46 am
DHB got a 12 on the Wonderlic and is being mentored by Javon, who got a 7….and a guy named Lal…it is like the Special Olympics WR squad.
Anymore questions as to why DHB looks lost on the field?
September 30th, 2009 at 7:46 am
Wonderlic scores mean nothing. Russell scored a 24 and he’s the dumbest starting QB in the league.
September 30th, 2009 at 7:47 am
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September 30th, 2009 at 7:48 am
Ryan Leaf scored a 27 on the Wonderlic.
Brett Favre a 22.
nuff said
September 30th, 2009 at 7:50 am
Lol
September 30th, 2009 at 7:53 am
be back later. gotta meeting
September 30th, 2009 at 7:53 am
Rockstar, after watching Russell the past few seasons, I have to admit that I suspect someone else took the Wonderlic for him…or that the test results were mixed up with someone else…or that he really got a 2 plus a 4 point curve for a total score of 6, but they accidentally put down 24…
September 30th, 2009 at 8:01 am
So Rankin is on Seattle’s practice squad. Just runs scout duties. they just needed a body. Did’t know that his uncle is former NFL wide receiver Webster Slaughter, who played for five different teams from 1986-1998.
September 30th, 2009 at 8:02 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
September 30th, 2009 at 7:07 am
YOU PEOPLE
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25 cents…
September 30th, 2009 at 8:11 am
thats a little optimistic 4 the posters on this board wouldnt you think Vegas???
September 30th, 2009 at 8:13 am
In the real world, even a 24 isn’t very good on the Wonderlic test, it’s around mediocre. I’ve seen different types of Wonderlic exams, they are sometimes multiple choice, or a word question ending with “is it this or this”. A 7 means you didn’t even try, there is 50 questions on the Wonderlic they take, a 14% is almost impossible.
So a 24 of 50 is, 48%, and it’s not like there is trigonometry or European History on the exam. I bet most all regular posters on here would get at least in the high 20’s or low 30’s.
September 30th, 2009 at 8:15 am
test
September 30th, 2009 at 8:18 am
Finally JaMarcus is not the worst starting QB in the NFL. Browns named Anderson starter against Cinci.
QB rating 30.9 vs Russell’s 39.8
September 30th, 2009 at 8:20 am
Lal: Hey guys, hey guys, hey guys come here! Lets practiiiiice!
Javon: Yeah yeah yeah!
DHB: Right right right yeeeeeeeeah!
Lal: Okay okay okay, Darrius, run fast and catch the ball!
DHB: Right right right yeeeeeeeah!
Javon: Yeah yeah yeah!!!
Lal: Javon, run fast and catch the ball!
DHB: Oh yeah oh yeah that’s what he told me to doooooooo!
Javon: I can do that I can do that!! Yeah yeah!
Louis Murphy: Jezus Cripes I am surrounded by azzwipes. Hey Darrius, have you ever seen the movie Forrest Gump?
DHB: Yeppers!
Louis Murphy: Remember when Forrest was playing for Alabama?
DHB: Were they in pretty red and white uniforms yeah yeah?
Louis Murphy: Sure, close enough. And what did they have Forrest do?
DHB: Run real fast yeah yeah with the ball yeah yeah!
Louis Murphy: Can you do that in a straight line?
DHB: You bet you bet I can yes yes I can! Watch (takes of running) I am Run-ning…Jen-ny I am Run-ning! Heee heee hee.
Louis Murphy: Not yet, dang it Darrius Gump get your rear end back here and wait for the snap.
Lal: Good idea! We’ll practice snapping the ball!
Javon: Right right right, I can do that yeah yeah!
Louis Murphy: Oh shoot, we are in trouble…Chaz, where are you?!?!?!
September 30th, 2009 at 8:21 am
What does a Wonderlic score mean?
IQ = 2WPT + 60
So, if Darrius got a 12 his IQ = 12*2 (24) + 60 =84
Walker 74
Russell 108
What do those IQ scores mean?
“Dr. Arthur Jensen cites the following four IQ thresholds:
(1) An IQ of 50 or below. This is the threshold below which most adults cannot cope outside of an institution. They can typically be taught to read at a 3rd or 4th grade level. However, they cannot normally function in the customary classroom setting, and they require special training programs.
(2) An IQ between 50 and 75. At this level of intelligence, they generally cannot complete elementary school. Most adults will need smarter help in coping with the world. (Javon)
(3) An IQ between 75 and 105. Children in this IQ range are not generally able to complete a college prep course in high school. (DHB)
(4) An IQ between 105 and 115. May graduate from college but generally, not with grades that would qualify them for graduate school. (Russell)
(5) An IQ above 115. No restrictions.
Current military enlistment standards exclude any individual whose IQ is below about 85″
September 30th, 2009 at 8:24 am
4evaRaider Says:
September 30th, 2009 at 8:11 am
thats a little optimistic 4 the posters on this board wouldnt you think Vegas???
September 30th, 2009 at 8:28 am
Not really 4eva, it’s not like getting a 28 makes you some type of brainaic. They are football players, I would hope some of us are a little better with a pen and paper than they are.
September 30th, 2009 at 8:34 am
lol
September 30th, 2009 at 8:39 am
Hey 4eva
Who’s my favorite team this week 
I haven’t had time to look up the schedule 
September 30th, 2009 at 8:51 am
Morning Happy Troll…
Umm lets see The Denver Broncos,no no they already kicked our ass in every facet of da game…
O…O yeah…Raiders travel 2 the Texans =)
September 30th, 2009 at 8:53 am
Man I agree RNs…
We gotta work through this…
Micheal Bush and Dmac can throw the ball and I STILL hav’nt seen a HB option,a flea-flicker or ANYTHING 2 ignite a SPARK…
Most comments lately is that the sky is falling and we’re %^*$%^ .
Man we’re sooo young and patience is RATHER THIN,imo
September 30th, 2009 at 8:54 am
What happen to this Blog?? I mean really what happern? 80% of the comments are all trying to create a funny name for JaMarcus Russell and complaining about AL Davis. Yeah Al is flushing us down the drain but I’d like to hear some creative banter about how we match up against the Texans or if Chaz will be arriving back this week. We need to go back to running a West Coast offense with the propensity on occasion to throw the deep ball. Ya know like DBl TE sets which we run a lot better out of and it will allow us to utilize Brandon Meyers and Zach Miller more. But this season is a marathon and for those of you who thought we were winning ten games were hoping a bit much to say the least. Our Record at this moment is 1-2. It seems to me the Raiders have been playing better on the road for some reason. Bruce Gradkowski is not the answer remember the Browns last year they didn’t score a TD the last 7 games of the year.
September 30th, 2009 at 8:57 am
OOOOOH!!!! I’m
the Broncos are going to be my other favorite team again this week 
The Teaxans 
1A and the Broncos 1B 
since they are playing the cowgirls 
on Sunday 
September 30th, 2009 at 9:03 am
4eva,
I can handle losses, but we have to progress not regress. Last two weeks were HUGE regressions by not just QB, but coach, Run D, and RB’s. Not good.
It’s the normal weekly cycle after loss in here, the first day or two after the sky is falling, after awhile it evens out a little, and in a day or two we will be talking ourselves into a victory on Sunday.
September 30th, 2009 at 9:04 am
Didn’t he have turf toe? That was him hopping along behind the Saints defenders as they ran to the end zone, right?
September 30th, 2009 at 9:06 am
Outta here folks
September 30th, 2009 at 9:07 am
Wassup folks …
A frickin 12, Dakota? You’ve GOT to be kidding me.
This is sad! Didn’t this kid go to nothing but prep schools before goign to Maryland? How can you be on a college campus for 3 years and not be able to at least bag a 20 on this cheeseball test?
September 30th, 2009 at 9:08 am
Vegas Raider Says:
September 30th, 2009 at 9:03 am
4eva,
I can handle losses, but we have to progress not regress. Last two weeks were HUGE regressions by not just QB, but coach, Run D, and RB’s. Not good.
It’s the normal weekly cycle after loss in here, the first day or two after the sky is falling, after awhile it evens out a little, and in a day or two we will be talking ourselves into a victory on Sunday.
——————————————————-Vegas Raider thanks for the explanation
September 30th, 2009 at 9:10 am
Correction…DHB got a 14 on the Wonderlic
September 30th, 2009 at 9:10 am
Well they all *%^%$& up at the same time,maybe they got a big collective monkey off their backs all at the same time.Yes I have the highest hopes also but this game will tell a lot about our mental approach to the game…How resillient are we…4get last weeks abomination and work harder this week,the season is still young but we already 2 games outta 1st place in the division but we can still even the score.Yep a very telling game coming up,imo
September 30th, 2009 at 9:11 am
I agree, RaiderNsuede Says.
Raiders need to go to a short pass offense.
Roll the qb more to get him out of the pocket.
Fat guy can still run.
D needs to not be so predictable and has to try different schemes.
after short passing works they can go to play action draws, like what we saw on Monday night where the qb freezes the D by looking and then hands off the draw.
Only works if you actually can pass, though.
September 30th, 2009 at 9:11 am
Sorry DHB!
Still, a 14? Really?
September 30th, 2009 at 9:14 am
Morning, Nation.
DHB was ahead of all other top WR prospects on the wonderlic with the exception of Jeremy Maclin, I believe.
Doesn’t matter much. Football IQ all that matters.
Javon used to be an outstanding receiver while still being the equivilant to mentally retarded.
It’s a timed test that is not a guage of football IQ or life experience.
Besides, not the measurable Al Davis uses to make his draft picks. Anyone care to guess what is?
September 30th, 2009 at 9:14 am
Well they all *%^%$& up at the same time,maybe they got a big collective monkey off their backs all at the same time.Yes I have the highest hopes also but this game will tell a lot about our mental approach to the game…How resillient are we…4get last weeks abomination and work harder this week,the season is still young but we already 2 games outta 1st place in the division but we can still even the score.Yep a very telling game coming up,imo
September 30th, 2009 at 9:16 am
Browns just dumped Quinn and are starting anderson due to Quinn’s performance.
He was their top pick.
Cable’s job is riding on Russell.
Did I read that he’s got a Mojawk noe?
What a bonehead.
September 30th, 2009 at 9:16 am
I think the kid is due. I think the team and the Nation is due.
Put together a gameplan my JV coach could put together, and we’re set. Talent’s there.
I mixed up a big batch of Raiderade today, get your dixie cups ready.
September 30th, 2009 at 9:17 am
All we can do is hope.
Sucks, actually.
September 30th, 2009 at 9:17 am
Is Jamarcus really rolling around in a White Rolls Royce???? In Oaktown ????
That’s actaully pretty funny to me.
A Brohawk and a Rolls ….
LMFAO!
September 30th, 2009 at 9:18 am
LA to TheBay Says:
September 30th, 2009 at 9:14 am
Morning, Nation.
DHB was ahead of all other top WR prospects on the wonderlic with the exception of Jeremy Maclin, I believe.
Doesn’t matter much. Football IQ all that matters.
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Not quite, but he was better than some:
Maclin 25
Britt 21
Crabtree 15
DHB 14
Harvin 12
Nicks 11
September 30th, 2009 at 9:19 am
Hopefully Cable is a realist. We know Davis isn’t.
If Cable can convince Al that we’ll take a couple of well-timed deepshots, let’s run the ball and make high percentage passes if we want to win this game, or any for that matter.
September 30th, 2009 at 9:21 am
If he put as much time into learning the Nfl as he puts into buying stuff and trying to look like Fargas’ daddy, he might be good.
He doesn’t care.
could retire now a rich man w/ all that guaranteed money.
Seriously, who could really be this inaccurate?
Looks like he just wants out, happy to take the money tough, and he’ll play great somewhere else where he’ll actually try.
Just like Moss and the others.
Funny thing is that other teams take these guys and welcome them, as if since they played for the Raiders that was an excuse to not be a man and coast till you’re cut.
They don’t worry about it happening to them because they would never tolerate it and it’s known.
If you’re taking the money you should earn it.
They’re way too soft on him.
Cable should be in his face yelling at him.
Not conciliatory.
Imagine if Cowher was his coach.
Like that.
Couple of oafs.
September 30th, 2009 at 9:23 am
LA TO THE BAY
JAVON SHOWED HIS I.Q. WHEN HE ” MADE IT RAIN IN A VEGAS CLUB”
September 30th, 2009 at 9:24 am
Saw a thing where they showed how Singletary makes ‘em run up hills for training.
and it’s working.
Makes sense.
Didn’t do walk-throughs, though.
September 30th, 2009 at 9:28 am
A Mohawk and a White Rolls???
Jamarcus is turning into Sly Stone right in front of our eyes…
September 30th, 2009 at 9:29 am
LA,
Al did not call back to back PA pass plays out of our endzone, Cable did.
The inexperienced NFL play caller is pressing just like the inexperienced players are. There are several things that Cable does really well during the game, then it’s like out of no where, here comes the vertical routes.
I think you said “well timed deep patterns”. That’s been his biggest issue is WHEN to call those plays.
Every team we play has been expecting this vertical game, which is why there should be a focus on pounding the ball with 2 TEs. It works all game. Despite popular belief, we are NOT seeing 8 man fronts. There is always 2 safties deep b/c teams actaully do respect the deep ball threat we have. Cable is trying to force it anyway with the PA and Shotgun and it is simply NOT open way more than it is.
We need to give the body blows man! Stop trying for the 1st round knockouts!
September 30th, 2009 at 9:29 am
Up Loco
Oh, I agree.
I’m more interested on what he does on the football field.
I think if Cable’s around next year should round up all the malcontents and lock ‘em up on the farm all offseason and make them watch film and shovel horse sht.
Dakota,
You sure about Britt, I thought he got like a 10.
September 30th, 2009 at 9:30 am
they are trying to get DHB ‘going’ at the cost of the game last week.
On the 2 picks in the 1st, there were RB’s to dump too, but JR went for DHB in double coverage.
We can’t force the ball to get him GOING.
This is not a SOUND gameplan.
September 30th, 2009 at 9:33 am
La To theBay:
PFW has released wonderlic scores:
NFL Draft – NFL draft preview and analysis from Pro Football Weekly
Some noteworthy scores (listing highest score for the player if multiple tests):
11 – Chris Baker, DT
11 – Hakeem Nicks, WR
11 – LeSean McCoy, RB
12 – Percy Harvin, WR
12 – Louis Delmas, S
12 – Joe Burnet, CB
13 – Knowshon Moreno, RB
14 – Darius Heyward-Bey, WR
15 – Rey Maualuga, ILB
15 – Michael Crabtree, WR
17 – Tyson Jackson, DE
17 – Andre Smith, OT
19 – William Moore, S
19 – Michael Oher, OT
20 – Brandon Pettigrew, TE
21 – Kenny Britt, WR
21 – Everette Brown, DE/OLB
21 – Ziggy Hood, DT/DE
21 – BJ Raji, DT
21 – Max Unger, OG/C
22 – William Beatty, OT
22 – Jason Smith, OT
22 – Chip Vaughn, S
22 – Alphonso Smith, CB
22 – Chris Wells, RB
23 – Patrick Chung, S
23 – Connor Barwin, DE/OLB
23 – Malcolm Jenkins, CB/S
24 – Darius Butler, CB
24 – Donald Brown, RB
24 – James Laurinaitis, ILB
25 – Jeremy Maclin, WR
25 – Aaron Maybin, DE/OLB
25 – Brian Orapko, DE/OLB
25 – Robert Ayers, DE/OLB
25 – Sean Smith, CB/S
26 – Eugene Monroe, OT
26 – Alex Mack, OG/C
26 – Pat White, QB/WR
26 – Aaron Curry, LB
26 – Brian Cushing, LB
27 – Clay Matthews, LB
27 – Josh Freeman, QB
28 – Mark Sanchez, QB
28 – Brian Robiskie, WR
29 – Jarron Gilbert, DE/DT
31 – Eric Wood, OG/C
33 – Vontae Davis, CB
34 – Larry English, DE/OLB
35 – James Casey, TE
35 – Matt Stafford, QB
September 30th, 2009 at 9:33 am
Food for thought how many drafted QB’s have been successful with the Raiders?
September 30th, 2009 at 9:34 am
Jhill,
If you think Cable calls the plays…you’re half right.
What happened to the plays he called last year?
He is certainly pressing. Probably when he scripted his first 15, he didn’t figure being at his own 1 yard line, so honestly, the deep shot isn’t a bad idea if you’re looking for PI.
But if it doesn’t work, you’re either backed up or on the sidelines after a pick.
It’s pretty obvious to me that they’re trying to get DHB a TD to prove the doubters wrong. My thing is why can’t it be a 5 yard TD? Why must it be 55?
September 30th, 2009 at 9:36 am
Jamarcus cares about his image … No doubt about that.
You do floss around in Rolls Royce’s and Mink coats if you do want to be a superstar. All superstars know that it is about the fans.
No way Jamarcus wants to hit the clubs and functions and not be hailed as the great one.
I think you guys are way off on that one.
The Big Homie wants to be loved!
September 30th, 2009 at 9:37 am
VanHeathen Says:
September 30th, 2009 at 9:30 am
they are trying to get DHB ‘going’ at the cost of the game last week.
On the 2 picks in the 1st, there were RB’s to dump too, but JR went for DHB in double coverage.
We can’t force the ball to get him GOING.
This is not a SOUND gameplan.
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I’ve notice a few times this year where Russell drops back to pass and the RB releases and is wide open and has plenty of space in front of him, yet Russell chucks the ball down the field for an incompletion.
Someone needs to tell Russell that we don’t just throw to the RBs when a screen is called. I’d take the 7 yard gain to the RB over the unlikely completion down the field for 30 yards any day of the week…especially on Sundays!
September 30th, 2009 at 9:47 am
lAtotheBAy-
I agree we have to find away to adjust and provide Russell easy plays to the wide outs…Screens, crossing routes, pick plays would also help. I’d like to see more out of the backfield they were trying that at the end of the game against Denver could have worked earlier I believe. The Run game is probably something I am baffled about as big as McFadden is he doesn’t have enough wiggle to him to be a RB it seems but maybe he is concentrating in hitting that hole but it appears to me it maybe a mental thing for him hopefully he will snap out of it and help us to a victory.
September 30th, 2009 at 9:47 am
A lot of those same plays from last year are there, LA.
Cable is running a lot of 2 TE sets, shotgun, 2WRs on on side with DHB leaking to the other side, screens, dump downs, and all of that. It’s all there.
But there is no pattern!
Perfect example is the drive which led to the 2nd pick. I understand that DHB was chipped by Bailey, and there should have been a flag. But why even call that play. Bush has JUST knocked off about a 12 yd run out of the 2 TE set. Why not just keep pounding that until they stop it? Why go Shotgun on 1st and 10?
He’s out thinking himself, IMO.
I do think that he can get better at that. Let’s just hope that we are not 1-5 before things start clicking.
September 30th, 2009 at 9:53 am
Absolutely.
I doubt you floss hard enough for your gums to bleed without wanting to back it up.
Maybe he is OK with just taking the money and being boss playa and not putting quality on the field, but I think that’s just nonsense.
I don’t know, because I don’t know the guy and can’t read his mind, but he’s been a QB since he was a little kid and I doubt he’s ready to give up on that now that he’s been paid. I seem to remember obvious improvement at the end of last season.
Just because he sucks right now doesn’t mean he doesn’t want to get better.
Brett Favre is an example of
A) love for the game and not wanting to leave
or
B) getting one last payday
or
C) combination of both.
The one thing I’ve learned about money and people who make it: whatever they have already is never enough. If he wants to continue to get paid, he’ll perform, or bust trying.
September 30th, 2009 at 9:55 am
JHill you are correct. Cable is reading off a play sheet without having a feel for the game. He has a list of plays that he thinks will do well, but doesn’t understand when to call them. There are a few great coaches who know when to throw that curveball, and Cable is not one of them. I don’t think they are running a “vanilla” offence, they are running a predictable offence.
And having Janikowski run a fake, is NOT out-thinking your opponent.
September 30th, 2009 at 9:57 am
Jhill- I agree the pattern is not there it seems Cable maybe out guessing himself at times concentrating on keeping the D off balance instead of creating a rhythm with his O. But all that is fixable. What I am concerned about is the D. Were banged up in the Secondary and the last 2 weeks we really have taken a step back. But whats good about the NFL each week is an opportunity to adjust and this is the week for the Raiders to do so.
September 30th, 2009 at 9:59 am
We were running all over Denver and went to the air to ‘get Jamarcus/DHB/Al going’ and cost ourselves the game.
Hell our D stopped them 6 times inside the 6 yd line to start the game…and then we turn it over.
BALL SECURITY!
Simple freakin’ football…
September 30th, 2009 at 10:03 am
Dakota
“I’ve notice a few times this year where Russell drops back to pass and the RB releases and is wide open and has plenty of space in front of him, yet Russell chucks the ball down the field for an incompletion.”
I’m glad you mentioned that because it’s the fundamental example of why he’s forcing it.
I noticed several times in the last 6 games last season where he passed up WIDE OPEN RBs and WRs to go to the deep or intermediate guy, with much success.
The difference? He was reading the D. Forget this half the field stuff, its BS. Russell doesn’t read D as well as any of us would like, but what he would do is just go through his options and find the hole in the zones, or the one-on-one matchup.
This season, he doesn’t care what the matchup is, he’s chucking it.
Jhill,
Exactly. An example was the 3rd and 2 on the 2nd to last drive in KC. Annoncer calling the game said it’s Bush time, as he just rattled off two or three solid gains.
What did we do? Chucked it. They’re not catching any D sleeping, and when they do, Russell’s off the mark. I don’t think he trusts his WRs and is scared of the pick.
Cable says, ‘just drill it,’ and we saw the result.
September 30th, 2009 at 10:03 am
Farve looked like a little kid after he threw that last second TD 2 break the whiners widdle heart…
He already got more money than he can spend,it aint 4da money no more 4him
Yep Jmac been doing this since he was a kid…he’s a competitor so you know he WANTS 2 WIN,I dont think ANYONE could get 2 this level and NOT want 2 win…that’s the most ridiculous of comments,imo
September 30th, 2009 at 10:03 am
I have to say after reading that bleacher report it really infuriated me. Jamarcus is so nonchalant it makes me sick.
I have a question perhaps one of you can help me with. Who are the qb’s up for free agency next season?
I’m tired of sticking with this useless piece of farm machinery, I’m done. he will never be a leader. Bring on a veteran next year! It is so embarrasing watching the Raiders sometimes. Where is the team that had heart and was out to hurt someone in week 1?
September 30th, 2009 at 10:06 am
LA to TheBay Says:
September 30th, 2009 at 9:53 am
Absolutely.
I doubt you floss hard enough for your gums to bleed without wanting to back it up.
Maybe he is OK with just taking the money and being boss playa and not putting quality on the field, but I think that’s just nonsense.
I don’t know, because I don’t know the guy and can’t read his mind, but he’s been a QB since he was a little kid and I doubt he’s ready to give up on that now that he’s been paid. I seem to remember obvious improvement at the end of last season.
Just because he sucks right now doesn’t mean he doesn’t want to get better.
Brett Favre is an example of
A) love for the game and not wanting to leave
or
B) getting one last payday
or
C) combination of both.
The one thing I’ve learned about money and people who make it: whatever they have already is never enough. If he wants to continue to get paid, he’ll perform, or bust trying.
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One thing YOU’VE learned about money and people who make it? lol..that’s like me saying “One thing I’ve learned about brain surgeons”
Sorry nutjob, but reading People mag doesn’t count.
You don’t get it. You will never get it, because you don’t WANT TO GET IT.
Russell has been a LAZY qb..a huge kid with a monster arm. Did enough to get noticed, but sucked enough to ride the bench in college. TELL YOU ANYTHING, EINSTEIN? And now? He’s expected to do something he’s NEVER done..which is WORK OUT. To PUSH HIMSELF. To actually TRY. No, not just do..not just show up..not just go through the motions.
Of course he would like to do better.
Again, because you’re slow..verrrry slow..
ALL RUSSELL HEARD ABOUT LAST YEAR WAS NOT BEING DEDICATED..not putting in the extra..was told first by Kiffin..then by Cable..that he has to do the EXTRA’S. (see above)
So what does Russell do? SHOWS UP FAT, AND ADMITS HE’S OUT OF SHAPE. While everyone else ran during camp, he walked.
Which is what he’s done all his life.
Oh yeah, he’s all about “$32 million? Me? a dumb jock? GUARANTEED? Sure, that’ works.”
Oh..and yes, because he is about as bright as a stump, he’ll blow through that so fast, and he’ll be one of those before/after stories..470 lbs, bouncer in some bar.
September 30th, 2009 at 10:07 am
I give Cable credit, he’s not babying Russell like Kiffin.
The scary thing is – he’s not babying Russell like Kiffin, lol.
Seriously, though it looks like the plan was to break him in, then install the vertical game and let it rip.
Not working. Time to adjust. Javon Walker should be out there. don’t care what anyone says. We must move the chains.
Ideal Russell game is as a game manager with a couple of crucial throws. 15-25, maybe a TD.
September 30th, 2009 at 10:14 am
I saw an interview with Russell a couple of years ago and I think the kid really does want to win. His demeanor is even keel I hate these pundits and bloggers who think they know what he’s thinking or what his motives are becuz I don’t and neither do they but what I do know is that as a TEAM the Raiders have to get squared away and play winning football. It maybe time to get Javon out there and have him run some crossing routes. But Bruce Gradkowski is not the Answer.
September 30th, 2009 at 10:16 am
I knew there was a reason J Russell didn’t want to compete at his combine.His stock would have fallen,plus it gave him more time to try and loose some weight to be somewhat presentable.Can you imagine J Russell taking his shirt off at the combine.OOPS!!!!
September 30th, 2009 at 10:17 am
love tecmo super bowl & Bo Jackson sweep left lol
September 30th, 2009 at 10:21 am
I don’t care how we get them or how much we paid, if we can field a group that competes and puts up Ws, I’m good.
You give this same group to creative coaches and I think we get a lot more out of them.
I was Tom Cable’s biggest advocate, if you remember.
1) Because Al really didn’t have a choice
2) Because he got these boys playing
3) It seemed to me he was not going to stand for the losing mentality.
I must say I am extremely dissapointed in Cable thus far.
The good news is it’s only week 4 and we’re 1-2.
September 30th, 2009 at 10:21 am
4evaRaider Says:
September 30th, 2009 at 10:03 am
Farve looked like a little kid after he threw that last second TD 2 break the whiners widdle heart…
He already got more money than he can spend,it aint 4da money no more 4him
Yep Jmac been doing this since he was a kid…he’s a competitor so you know he WANTS 2 WIN,I dont think ANYONE could get 2 this level and NOT want 2 win…that’s the most ridiculous of comments,imo=
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Geez..another rocket scientist.
Yes, goober, of course he WANTS TO WIN. Doesn’t EVERYONE WANT TO WIN??
Ok, try this on.
Jerry Rice wanted to win.
Rashan Woods wanted to win.
Jerry Rice, even when he ws the best, had an OFFSEASON workout regiment that most players couldn’t keep up with.
Rashan Woods didn’t bother working out.
One is the best of all time.
THE OTHER IS A BUST.
My guess is that every qb came in to camp in GOOD/GREAT shape..ready to play.
EVERY QB EXCEPT ONE.
JaMonsterButtCheeks Russell
September 30th, 2009 at 10:22 am
Bank-Bank, JR was at the combine that year:
NFL Combine: Brady Quinn Chiseled, JaMarcus Russell Chubby
Posted Feb 23, 2007 2:50PM By Michael David Smith (RSS feed)
On nearly every board, LSU’s JaMarcus Russell has moved ahead of Notre Dame’s Brady Quinn as the best quarterback in the 2007 NFL draft. But if a player’s physique means anything, score one for Quinn at the scouting combine today in Indianapolis.
All the quarterbacks were paraded around wearing nothing but shorts in front of the scouts (and NFL Network cameras) to be weighed and measured, and there’s no question that if one of them is going to be on the cover of Men’s Health, it’ll be Quinn. Russell was a somewhat pudgy 6-foot-6 and 265 pounds. Quinn was a ripped 6-foot-4 and 230 pounds.
Does that make a big difference in where they’ll be drafted? Ordinarily I’d say no. But it’s intriguing that the team with the first overall pick, the Oakland Raiders, is led by Al Davis, a man who for decades has boasted about his ability to spot great athletes just by looking at them. Davis used to find his own secluded spot at the combine and point out which players he thought were the best athletes, based purely on appearance. Davis isn’t quite as active in the scouting of players as he once was, but he’s still the man who’s ultimately in charge. I think the Raiders will take Russell first overall, but don’t rule out Quinn just yet.
September 30th, 2009 at 10:23 am
Didn’t know that his uncle is former NFL wide receiver Webster Slaughter
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Webster Slaughter (Browns) was a stud on Tecmo Super Bowl!
September 30th, 2009 at 10:24 am
Another non-combine showup was B QUINN. Must be something to not showing up for the combine.
September 30th, 2009 at 10:24 am
bank-bank Says:
September 30th, 2009 at 10:24 am
Another non-combine showup was B QUINN. Must be something to not showing up for the combine.
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Wrong info, see my paste above.
September 30th, 2009 at 10:28 am
Raider management must stay away from players who refuses to show up and compete at their combine.
September 30th, 2009 at 10:28 am
exlaraiderseasonticketholder:
Derek Anderson is light years ahead of Russell. his QB Rating doesn’t compare to Russell’s because DA only has 19 pass attempts this season – against a nasty Ravens defense who was playing at home and had a 20-0 lead at halftime when DA entered the game
September 30th, 2009 at 10:29 am
LA to TheBay Says:
September 30th, 2009 at 9:34 am
Jhill,
If you think Cable calls the plays…you’re half right.
What happened to the plays he called last year?
He is certainly pressing. Probably when he scripted his first 15, he didn’t figure being at his own 1 yard line, so honestly, the deep shot isn’t a bad idea if you’re looking for PI.
But if it doesn’t work, you’re either backed up or on the sidelines after a pick.
It’s pretty obvious to me that they’re trying to get DHB a TD to prove the doubters wrong. My thing is why can’t it be a 5 yard TD? Why must it be 55?
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Why must it be a 55 yarder?
Thanks for proving you DON’T FOLLOW THE RAIDERS.
Anyone who has knows about Al Davis and his love for the deep ball, and love for speed.
Anyone who knows the geezer knows he hates that everyone laughed at his pick of Bey.
It doesn’t matter if it takes 5 years, Al is determined for Bey to score on at least ONE deep ball. In his krispy kritter mind that will compensate for all the abuse.
You would know that..IF you actually followed the Raiders.
September 30th, 2009 at 10:29 am
“One thing YOU’VE learned about money and people who make it? lol..that’s like me saying “One thing I’ve learned about brain surgeons”
Sorry nutjob, but reading People mag doesn’t count.”
Thats anyone with any level of money. Know a lot of entrepeneurs that crashed and burned because they kept trying to make more and weren’t OK with what they had.
Very few examples of people, especially, pro athletes, that say, “Ya, I’m good with what I got, no need to make more money.”
And People Magazine? Most likely to get info like that from Forbes or Fortune.
I’m sure People is a great source for what’s going on with Bradgelina, though, Ricky.
Up your alley?
Lol, then again – what hasn’t been up your alley?
September 30th, 2009 at 10:30 am
# HairyBush Says:
September 30th, 2009 at 10:35 am
Why does this site put posts out of fn’ order?!?!
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Don’t worry this Blog is on the brink of turning the corner.
September 30th, 2009 at 10:31 am
jhill Says:
September 30th, 2009 at 9:29 am
LA,
Al did not call back to back PA pass plays out of our endzone, Cable did.
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You don’t know that.
You assume that.
When questioned Cable took the flak.
What did you expect him to say? “Got a message from uptop to go deep”?
Cable is a puppet. Even he knows that.
And puppets do whatever the person pulling the strings tells them to.
Not everyone will do what Gruden did, which is turn and flip off Al in his box.
September 30th, 2009 at 10:35 am
Why does this site put posts out of fn’ order?!?!
September 30th, 2009 at 10:39 am
LA to TheBay Says:
September 30th, 2009 at 10:29 am
“One thing YOU’VE learned about money and people who make it? lol..that’s like me saying “One thing I’ve learned about brain surgeons”
Sorry nutjob, but reading People mag doesn’t count.”
Thats anyone with any level of money. Know a lot of entrepeneurs that crashed and burned because they kept trying to make more and weren’t OK with what they had.
RICHOCHET: IDIOT COMMENT. lol…geez..that was dumb. See, YOU CONTRADICTED YOURSELF, you moron.
You state: “The one thing I’ve learned about money and people who make it: whatever they have already is never enough. If he wants to continue to get paid, he’ll perform, or bust trying. ”
AND FOLLOW THAT UP WITH: “Know a lot of entrepeneurs that crashed and burned because they kept trying to make more and weren’t OK with what they had.”
Weren’t OK WITH WHAT THEY HAD, so they crashed and burned?
On one hand they want more? On the other hand, they should have just stopped, and not kept trying to make money??
I call BS ON YOU KNOWING ANYONE much less a LOT who crashed and burned because they KEPT TRYING TO MAKE MONEY.
Idiot take from the resident idiot.
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And People Magazine? Most likely to get info like that from Forbes or Fortune.
RICHOCHET: lol…uh…yeah..I know. The “People magazine as a source of your take on economics” was a slap on you.
Thanks for proving it was a dead on bullseye, lol..
Damn, you’re gullible, aren’t you?
September 30th, 2009 at 10:41 am
Anyone who has knows about Al Davis and his love for the deep ball, and love for speed.
Anyone who knows the geezer knows he hates that everyone laughed at his pick of Bey.
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Good job of stating the obvious, Ricky.
I’m sure everybody appreciates it.
THIS JUST IN: 1+1=2 and Richochet=Jaded.
I’ll rephrase for the simpletons (well, you really, I think everyone else got it):
Why must Al Davis persist in his penchant for this deep ball crap?
If everyone knows exactly what DHB is out there to do, his deep routes will only be respected superficially, if at all.
September 30th, 2009 at 10:42 am
Exlaseasonticketholder: your right,Im just mad because I wanted us to draft Adrian Peterson that year with all of my heart.Now look who were stuck with a Hall of Shamer at the moment instead of a Hall of Famer at the moment.
September 30th, 2009 at 10:43 am
Lynn from snot-I have to say I don’t post often but I always read this blog and you definetley say some funny/clever stuff.
September 30th, 2009 at 10:43 am
Ricky,
You would know that..IF you actually followed the Raiders.
Of course, I only dream of following the team as closely as you do. For a person, or whatever you are, who so obviously hates the Raiders, you spend a lot of your time following them.
Obviously jaded.
September 30th, 2009 at 10:44 am
LA to TheBay Says:
September 30th, 2009 at 10:41 am
Anyone who has knows about Al Davis and his love for the deep ball, and love for speed.
Anyone who knows the geezer knows he hates that everyone laughed at his pick of Bey.
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Good job of stating the obvious, Ricky.
I’m sure everybody appreciates it.
THIS JUST IN: 1+1=2 and Richochet=Jaded.
I’ll rephrase for the simpletons (well, you really, I think everyone else got it):
Why must Al Davis persist in his penchant for this deep ball crap?
If everyone knows exactly what DHB is out there to do, his deep routes will only be respected superficially, if at all.
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BACKTRACK, TOOL…BACKTRACK lol
Hey YOU’RE the one who asked that stupid question about ‘Why not have Bey score from 5 yds..why keep going deep’.
And I just happened to be the one who schooled you AND laughed at you.
What can I say? You say stupid things. I just try to get you back on track.
Consider it a community service.
September 30th, 2009 at 10:46 am
The Steelers have shown they can maintain their image and philosophy and adapt to the modern game. I’m sure there are a few other examples.
There’s no reason other than being stubborn, Al can’t do the same.
Bush, McFadden, Russel, DHB – All his guys and he’s misusing them, or Cable is, and the offense has been going nowhere for years.
The only exception is when we modified the offense under Gruden.
Blame the coaches, players, O line play, QB play, Rob Ryan, or whoever – and they deserve it – but we all know who is really to blame.
Al used to be savvy and is indirectly responsible for every member of the Nation being a fan of this team.
Something needs to be done and it needs to be drastic.
September 30th, 2009 at 10:48 am
“Hey YOU’RE the one who asked that stupid question about ‘Why not have Bey score from 5 yds..why keep going deep’.”
Point taken. Sorry it was above your head.
I’m sure you’ve already read my response, posted above.
September 30th, 2009 at 10:50 am
For some reason I think if we would have drafted Adrian Peterson we would still be in the same position just with an injured Adrian Peterson.
September 30th, 2009 at 10:52 am
What’s up Raider Nation!!!! Im back with a lil sumthin for ya. David White actually took the time to email be back, he’s a great guy. This is his reply to my concern about Cable not giving Walker a chance to play….
;Thanks for the kind words, im going to write about Javon again this week. Cable says that they want to play the youth so they can get better with experience. Personally, I think they got man at Walker for having offseason surgery with out telling anyone so this is their way of punishing them marcus allen style.
DW
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Wow the raiders are freaking nuts! Ok I can understand them having concerns about his actions to FIX HIS OWN KNEE. It was in the off season. He was ready enough intime to play in the preseason. And is ready to play now, so Cable and company wants to hold a freaking grudge! Get the fk over it. The Damn team is struggling maybe he can give us the freaking spark we need!!! CMON CABLE!!!!
September 30th, 2009 at 10:55 am
RiaderNsuede:I’ll take an injured Adrian Peterson over anything that our Raiders have today!!!!!
September 30th, 2009 at 10:58 am
really? I think you may have missed the point we would be in the same position.
September 30th, 2009 at 10:59 am
The Raiders really don’t run a system where they rely heavily on one back.
Never have, really.
I know AP’s a beast, but he wasn’t a system fit. Thunder and lightning is the preferred method.
Last time I remember relying on one back so much was LaMont Jordan in his 1,000 yard season, and Fargas, due to attrition (sp?).
September 30th, 2009 at 11:01 am
RaiderNsuede,I can see your point if in fact Adrian Peterson was currently injured but he isn’t.
September 30th, 2009 at 11:04 am
Sense when the day has come upon our current Raiders that a future current Hall of Famer can’t fit into our current Raider system.No wonder were in the position were in with no end in sight.
September 30th, 2009 at 11:05 am
Bank-Bank Says:
September 30th, 2009 at 11:01 am
RaiderNsuede,I can see your point if in fact Adrian Peterson was currently injured but he isn’t.
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With our fortunes he would be but that has nothing to do with the current state of our SQUAD. Support and work with what you have and hope for more progression out of our current players instead of wishing for others who do not wear Silver and Black.
September 30th, 2009 at 11:06 am
CONGRATS RAIDERS.
You are now at the WORST 100 GAME STRETCH IN THE RAIDERS HISTORY, AND WORSE THAN ANY OTHER TEAM.
Raiders are currently 25-74. Even if they win Sunday, they’ll still be worse than Detroit (27-72) or even Cleveland…or even the FIRST 100 of the TB Bucs (35-64-1)
And, as Monte Poole’s article states, there is absolutely no reason to believe it’s going to change much the next 100 games.
Congrats Al
You’ve gotten the Raiders at a all time, NFL low.
September 30th, 2009 at 11:08 am
CONGRATS RICHOCHET
That is the first post I ever read where you didn’t use someone else’s material and instead formed your own— oh wait. Nevermind.
Sorry, Monte.
September 30th, 2009 at 11:10 am
At least it wasn’t a cut and paste.
By the way, isn’t there an ambulance somewhere fullbacking your way through traffic on the way to a hospital?
September 30th, 2009 at 11:12 am
“Sense when the day has come upon our current Raiders that a future current Hall of Famer can’t fit into our current Raider system.No wonder were in the position were in with no end in sight.”
I agree with you, but I’d also like to think of what we’d be saying about our RB situation if Mike Bush had 20-30 carries per game.
September 30th, 2009 at 11:14 am
Great America is shooting down the new Whiner Stadium. They are not negotiating with the City of San Francisco. Say Hello to your Brand New Los Angeles Forty Whiners!!!!!!!!!!!
September 30th, 2009 at 11:18 am
As long as Miller never sees the field as a CB, I am okay with him being back lol.
He is even worse than Routt!!!!
September 30th, 2009 at 11:19 am
Raider Rockstar
I am sorry dude give me Adrian Peterson and who ever at this point. I hate to say it but I would take a Troy Smith over Russel right now.
This is not a good football team right now all around.
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RaiderRockstar Says:
September 30th, 2009 at 11:19 am
Even if the Raiders had drafted Calvin Johnson or Adrian Peterson instead of JaWalrus, we probably would have drafted John Beck, Drew Stanton or Jeff Rowe to be the QB instead of Kevin Kolb, Trent Edwards or Troy Smith. Al Davis isn’t the best talet evaluator out there fellas. If it wasn’t a young gun it’d be a journeyman like Jeff Garcia, Aaron Brooks, Gus Frerotte, Brad Johnson, etc.
Given Russell’s performance through 19 starts I’m not sure even thats a bad thing!
September 30th, 2009 at 11:19 am
Wow!!, With Justin Miller back we are just 3 Millers away from a six pack.
September 30th, 2009 at 11:19 am
Even if the Raiders had drafted Calvin Johnson or Adrian Peterson instead of JaWalrus, we probably would have drafted John Beck, Drew Stanton or Jeff Rowe to be the QB instead of Kevin Kolb, Trent Edwards or Troy Smith. Al Davis isn’t the best talet evaluator out there fellas. If it wasn’t a young gun it’d be a journeyman like Jeff Garcia, Aaron Brooks, Gus Frerotte, Brad Johnson, etc.
Given Russell’s performance through 19 starts I’m not sure even thats a bad thing!
September 30th, 2009 at 11:19 am
CJ Legend 34 Says:
September 30th, 2009 at 11:19 am
Raider Rockstar
I am sorry dude give me Adrian Peterson and who ever at this point. I hate to say it but I would take a Troy Smith over Russel right now.
This is not a good football team right now all around.
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RaiderRockstar Says:
September 30th, 2009 at 11:19 am
Even if the Raiders had drafted Calvin Johnson or Adrian Peterson instead of JaWalrus, we probably would have drafted John Beck, Drew Stanton or Jeff Rowe to be the QB instead of Kevin Kolb, Trent Edwards or Troy Smith. Al Davis isn’t the best talet evaluator out there fellas. If it wasn’t a young gun it’d be a journeyman like Jeff Garcia, Aaron Brooks, Gus Frerotte, Brad Johnson, etc.
Given Russell’s performance through 19 starts I’m not sure even thats a bad thing!
September 30th, 2009 at 11:19 am
we are just 3 Millers away from a six pack
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trade for:
DT Roy Miller (Bucs)
DE Brandon Miller (Seahawks)
LB Brit Miller (49ers)
September 30th, 2009 at 11:21 am
Yeah in the context of the Ravens sure I would take Troy SWmith but in the context of the Oakland Raiders of Today Troy Smith probably wouldn’t do any better.
September 30th, 2009 at 11:21 am
Miller’s back YYYYYYYYYYAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
It is time to go to the playoffs!!!!
Yeah right, who gives a rats A$$!!!!
Tweet that Howard.
P.S. Howard GET OFF YOUR TOY AND PLAY SOME FREAKIN DEFENSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 30th, 2009 at 11:23 am
Justin Miller playing with turf toe is worse than Routt.
J. Miller playing healthy is better than Routt & Bowie. Thats why Justin started opposite CJ in Week 17 last year, not Stanford … (against TB when Nnamdi was hurt)
September 30th, 2009 at 11:24 am
RRS
I agree for the most part, but if you think about it, many of our so-called busts recently were “sure things” (Gallery, Huff, Russell), wheras at least one reach (Aso) panned out more than nicely.
Al, the draft gurus, and pretty much everyone else in the world, felt the Raiders needed a QB that year. It was a two-horse race, and Russell’s arm made him the guy.
If it wasn’t the Raiders, it would have been someone else in need of a QB in the top 10.
I think the real problem was not having a solid veteran be The Guy for a min and let Russell sit (did wonders for Aaron Rodgers).
Instead we had vets, but McCown and Culpepper certainly left a lot to be desired.
September 30th, 2009 at 11:24 am
After the Bronco game some tailgaters, who were parked by the road where the players come and go, and this was what they saw:
“Our tailgate happens next to the road the players drive in and out of the stadium. after the dismal game some of the boys went back to do a bit more tailgating and eat…a white Rolls Royce is leaving the stadium with JaMarcus Russell driving…fans know this and are booing…the passenger side window rolls down and with JaMarcus driving one of his home boys on the passenger side yells out “Well at least we are eating good, you guys are still broke”…and JaMarcus visibly chuckles in the driver’s seat…”
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wow i think JaPoatroast is a punk who should remember where he came from
September 30th, 2009 at 11:25 am
I agree it would just be easier to stomach because A) he would be cheaper B) He at least looks like an athlete C) It would be easier watching Peterson run the ball rather than anyone we have right now.
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RaiderNsuede Says:
September 30th, 2009 at 11:21 am
Yeah in the context of the Ravens sure I would take Troy SWmith but in the context of the Oakland Raiders of Today Troy Smith probably wouldn’t do any better.
September 30th, 2009 at 11:26 am
If it wasn’t the Raiders, it would have been someone else in need of a QB in the top 10.
Well, actually I probably want to revise that top 10 statement, seeing as Quinn slid out of the top 10, didn’t he?
September 30th, 2009 at 11:28 am
Kirk back in the day I would have went after you for saying that about my team. Today, I agree with you 100%, the Raiders do not know how to play to their teams strengths. MC Fumbles should be running outside, screens, etc, playing in space. sort like Bush with the Saints.
Bush will go to another team in a year or two and have a great NFL career (once he leaves).
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Kirk Says:
September 30th, 2009 at 11:28 am
Bush should have been the starting running back since the beginning of last year. Anyone who knows anything about football knows that. McFumble is too fragile.
This really is the dumbest team in football.
September 30th, 2009 at 11:28 am
Bush should have been the starting running back since the beginning of last year. Anyone who knows anything about football knows that. McFumble is too fragile.
This really is the dumbest team in football.
September 30th, 2009 at 11:30 am
CJ Legend 34 Says:
September 30th, 2009 at 11:25 am
I agree it would just be easier to stomach because A) he would be cheaper B) He at least looks like an athlete C) It would be easier watching Peterson run the ball rather than anyone we have right now.
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RaiderNsuede Says:
September 30th, 2009 at 11:21 am
Yeah in the context of the Ravens sure I would take Troy SWmith but in the context of the Oakland Raiders of Today Troy Smith probably wouldn’t do any better.
________________________________________________________Lets stop right there for anyone who thinks Jruss isn’t an athlete you got to be out your damn mind! This fool is close to 300 lbs and moves better than alot of QB’s. Wastch and mark my words as soon as we release or lose JRuss he will make some one else’s squad win the job in preseason play us and kick our ass! Its pretty common place for AL Davis to wear egg on his face.
September 30th, 2009 at 11:32 am
Omg!!! You guys are killing me with these russell names…..Japotroast that is insanely funny….
September 30th, 2009 at 11:32 am
Usually, you would congratulate someone for making a NFL roster. I feel like sending Justin Miller my condolences.
September 30th, 2009 at 11:34 am
LA to TheBay : Russell doesn’t belong in the same sentance as Nnamdi, Gallery or Huff. those guys contribute.
I agree. McCown & Culpepper are not ideal mentor types. both of them wanted to start, not help us develop a young franchise QB. both turnover prone. Andrew Walter & Tui were much the same. Gradkowski & Frye aren’t much better either …
However, Tom Cable said that if Russell wants to improve his game he’ll have to “put the work in”. Said 90 percent of his players “get it” and Russell isn’t one of them. How do you explain that? Is Cable a RUSSELL HATER too, or does he just tell it like it is?
Every QB drafted in the Top 10 is going to a team with a losing record, upset fan base, most likely coaching turnover and roster overhaul. Russell isn’t the only guy who faces the challenge of turning around a losing team and turning them into a contender. However, he is to blame for his own development when he doesn’t put the work in and he has two of the best resources to lean on – Tollner & Hackett.
September 30th, 2009 at 11:36 am
I got one Jabarfuss truffles
September 30th, 2009 at 11:36 am
VanHeathen Says:
September 30th, 2009 at 9:28 am
A Mohawk and a White Rolls???
Jamarcus is turning into Sly Stone right in front of our eyes…
He’s
an everyday person 
September 30th, 2009 at 11:36 am
just get the ball in our playmaker’s hands, most teams give DHB a cushion so hit him with a short pass on the line of scrimmage and let him try and make someone miss, get to these other guys and get it out of JRuss hands.
September 30th, 2009 at 11:44 am
ppost 157…Lynn Feom Snot
LMAO!!!
September 30th, 2009 at 11:46 am
RRS
“Russell doesn’t belong in the same sentance as Nnamdi, Gallery or Huff. those guys contribute.”
Of course they didn’t contribute right away, did they?
Yes, you are absolutely correct about the second part of your post, with regards to Russell not being the only guy to come into a losing team.
But, think of the atmosphere. This is the Raiders we’re talking about. You see how Atlanta got things done once they snagged Ryan.
They put pieces around him, same as Davis did Russell, but there is also a competant GM and HC there.
Russell needs to step up and be the leader DESPITE the mess, not make excuses or let others like myself, living vicariously through him (lol, for you, Ricky), make excuses for him.
He hasn’t gotten the job done. Hopefully he gets some help, because he’s our QB until further notice.
September 30th, 2009 at 11:46 am
# vegas raider Says:
September 30th, 2009 at 6:34 am
Good morning Nation,
See this article on the the last thread, wanted to post it again for the morning crew. Of course a bunch of unnamed sources, but it doesn’t help anything:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/263687-oakland-raiders-is-jamarcus-russell-betraying-raider-nation
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In this article condemning Russell the writer claims that Tollner was a disciple of Air Coryell and one of the “Greatest Show on Turf” coaches. Wrong and wrong. The closest Tollner got to Air Coryell was he was living in San Diego at the same time but had nothing to do with them, and was on the “Ground Chuck” coaching staff, not the “GSOT.” In other words if this writer can’t even get well known facts right, why would anyone believe a bunch of unnamed sources???? In other words there is a lot to be pissed off about, but this is “article” is just crap.
September 30th, 2009 at 11:47 am
new post.
September 30th, 2009 at 11:53 am
# LA to TheBay Says:
September 30th, 2009 at 11:24 am
RRS
I agree for the most part, but if you think about it, many of our so-called busts recently were “sure things” (Gallery, Huff, Russell), wheras at least one reach (Aso) panned out more than nicely.
Al, the draft gurus, and pretty much everyone else in the world, felt the Raiders needed a QB that year. It was a two-horse race, and Russell’s arm made him the guy.
If it wasn’t the Raiders, it would have been someone else in need of a QB in the top 10.
I think the real problem was not having a solid veteran be The Guy for a min and let Russell sit (did wonders for Aaron Rodgers).
Instead we had vets, but McCown and Culpepper certainly left a lot to be desired.
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How many players that Raider “fan” has been calling bust have come around and developed into excellent players in recent years?? Nnam, Gallery, Chaz, Mario, and now Huff
September 30th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
It does not make a difference if we signed miller or not, yeah he might break free for a touch down her and there but the bottom line is we need our OFFENSE to produce. Dumbmarcus (Bag O Doughnuts) Russell is no the answer, never will be. He is a box of rocks with no leadership skills and that is going to get us nowhere but a top five pick again. That being said we should throw in Gradowski, or Frye, at least they will manage the game better. I really think we have a decent team, We just need a QB who can manage our offense. Thank god I am working sunday so i wont have a chance to see the raiders fall on there face again, as long as Russell is the QB we will suck
September 30th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
Get a grip on reality. Most of the posts here talk about getting a back here or a wideout there or even a QB. You are missing the reality of building a team.
The truly great teams the Raiders had began with drafting and developing solid
O-lines and D-lines. The recent Raider concept is to do the reverse. They draft
poorly (no credible Linemen) iffy backs and WR’s or trade for Randy Moss with no visible means of support. We can’t use a Moss with no O-lne or competant QB. This all points back to Al and his genius for organization-not. Historically for the Raiders, their great years came when they had Ron Wolf finding the
talent through drafts and good trades to stock the team. The Raiders also had
an ability to find non flashy over achievers. Seen anything like that lately? I think
not. So, since this all begins and ends with Al, the only way it changes is with AL! Actually Al cannot change at this point because his time is long past. His
son Scott is a possibility since he is not senile and has watched his father run the team into the ground. From what I have read, he would most likely reach out to smart people ( Madden, Wolf etc.) that wouldn’t have to deal with the old fart
like others who have had the Al experience. At this point, any serios Raider fan with a brain could get better results than Al and Co.
November 10th, 2009 at 6:36 am
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