Still wait and see on Cable-Hanson
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, September 29th, 2009 at 7:22 am in Oakland Raiders.
With any luck, the whole Tom Cable-Randy Hanson story will reach some kind of conclusion soon, but that’s not the way to bet.
Weeks after the story of an altercation broke, we have Hanson’s attorney identifying Cable as the attacker (as had been reported with unnamed sources as well as speculated) which left the defensive assistant with a broken jaw.
According to attorney John McGuinn, as reported by Jason LaCanfora of the NFL Network, it’s a “textbook case of felony assault,” and he goes on to say that Raiders defensive backs have been communicating with Hanson on the sly and hints that his client is partially responsible for a good opening game against San Diego.
The key phrase, of course, is “his client.”
It’s a lawyer’s job to make a case, just as it’s the job of a Raiders executive to belittle Rich Gannon if that is what the boss wants. So if the Raiders do make a statement in the near future, it’s not worth much unless it’s accompanied by the information that says either the case is closed or charges are being filed.
Fact is, we’re only slightly closer to the truth than a few weeks ago.
Hanson, according to the report, didn’t speak to Napa authorities until Friday regarding an event that took place Aug. 5 and was recognized by the Napa P.D. via its Web site on Aug. 21. The story was leaked weeks ago, an initial salvo fired by one side or the other interested in bringing the matter to some kind of resolution.
Hanson’s story still has to be found credible enough for a district attorney to press charges. Frankly, the claim that Cable broke his jaw seems more likely than the McGuinn’s assertion that Raiders defensive backs have been reaching out for Hanson’s help in his absence.
Listen to Raiders defensive backs for more than a few minutes _ particularly cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha _ and they’ll tell you playing in the secondary for the Raiders is not a complicated job. Mostly man-to-man responsibilities, a single-high safety . . . primarily the kind of “our players are better than your players” defense Al Davis is known for favoring and the philosophy espoused by John Marshall since he took over for Rob Ryan (who, not coincidentally, had the same philosophy).
When the story first became public, some defensive backs said they didn’t know Hanson was missing. Others said they assumed he was working back in Alameda. He was identified as a “defensive assistant,” and wasn’t the defensive backs coach, the job held by Lionel Washington, with Willie Brown also having considerable influence.
So let’s say I’m a little skeptical Hanson has been tutoring from a distance without the Raiders knowledge, or that the story is at least a little exaggerated. All that is missing is for McGuinn to say Hanson was only responsible for how the defense played in Week 1 up to, but not including, the final defensive sequence.
Correction
– Thanks to e-mailer Carlo Grossman, who recognized the error in identifying the Raiders attendance of 45,602 against Denver as the lowest since the 2005 regular season finale against the New York Giants. The Raiders actually drew just 43,687 for last year’s 27-16 win over Houston at the Coliseum on Dec. 21.
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September 29th, 2009 at 7:23 am
Man Yo
September 29th, 2009 at 7:26 am
Hanson was punched “for cause” !
September 29th, 2009 at 7:27 am
Cable Bumaye!
September 29th, 2009 at 7:28 am
On any other team, this game coming up would be Jawalrus’ last chance.
September 29th, 2009 at 7:29 am
Repost:
If we see the same ridiculous offense in Houston and the same vanilla defense with no punch, then yes, we’re fuked.
If we hit them in the mouth like we did SD, we’ll stay competitive.
It’s a young team and losing doesn’t bother me as much as quitting. If you see the team start quitting, you’ll know we’re doomed.
All that being said, I think even as stubborn as the old man is, they’ll put somethng together to win.
I like the way Cable called plays last season, or at least near the end. If his fake FG works, he gets all the praise in the world. Because it didn’t he’s the goat. That’s sports.
If that DB holds on to the ball last night, Romo makes a horrible throw into coverage and he’s the goat. Because the ball glanced off the DB’s hands and into a Cowboy’s for the catch, Romo made a ‘brilliant’ throw into a tight window.
Point is, Al needs to let Cable do his thing. Cable already knows to get the ball to McFadden, so it’s not as if he’s waiting til the 2nd quarter or half to get him involved (and we saw how that turned out on Sunday).
You guys have some real short memories. Go back and watch last two games of the season. Smart, high percentage plays. Lots of running.
Bush is the key. Too bad he didn’t get picked at #4 and doesn’t get paid as much as McFadden, otherwise we know who’d be the workhorse.
September 29th, 2009 at 7:34 am
RRS
You can’t blame Russell entirely for the lack of success for DHB and Murphy.
Russell made Chaz at Z and Higgins at X look pretty good. He wasn’t overthrowing them. He was right on the money in most cases. DT42 called it yesterday when he said they ruined Russell’s progress with messing with his mechanics and calling awful plays. Terrible. I could go through a thesaurus. You get the idea.
When the offensive gameplan is two words long, tough to get anyone going.
“Go deep” will not get it done.
You guys see Jason Garrett’s offense last night? Not too flashy, but smart. High percentage. Run the ball. Matchups.
September 29th, 2009 at 7:34 am
Wishbone: Offensive
September 29th, 2009 at 7:35 am
Rockstar: Highlarious!
September 29th, 2009 at 7:36 am
Ok, Who cares about Hanson…
You’re right Rockstar…Hanson got punched for cause!!! LMAO!!! Also, Russell should get punched for cause by the Defense!!!
September 29th, 2009 at 7:36 am
Now I got that stupid song in my head…..
September 29th, 2009 at 7:42 am
hwnrdr Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 7:45 am
Funny…Sands is signed by New England…haha!
Why
would anyone name their kid Terdel 
September 29th, 2009 at 7:42 am
Jake’s WRs didn’t give him any help last night either.
September 29th, 2009 at 7:45 am
Funny…Sands is signed by New England…haha!
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/4495/new-england-adds-another-former-raider
September 29th, 2009 at 7:48 am
Please tell me why the word monkey offends you Weasel? If I called him JaWalrus it wouldn’t sound as funny and then I couldn’t use the song. The Monkees didn’t mind being called monkeys. They said they like to monkey around. So why are you offended? A monkey is a highly intelligent animal, but they enjoy playing around and have a short attention span. Some of them are probably even a little overweight. So why would you be offended for me calling him JaMonkey? And please DO NOT try to bring race into this. This has nothing to do with anyones skin color or their race. This has to do with JaMarcus being a fat, lazy, filthy rich, spoiled moron of a quarterback.
September 29th, 2009 at 7:51 am
Moderators on the job this morning, huh?
September 29th, 2009 at 7:56 am
Just asking…would you guys want Andrew Walter back?
September 29th, 2009 at 7:59 am
hwnrdr Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 7:45 am
Funny…Sands is signed by New England…haha!
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This is just another example,4 the whole world 2C that Cable is correct when he says we are just not exacuting properly.The nfl is full of X-Raiders going some where else and being sucessfull.It used 2B “other” players would come here and find success.
Exacuting entails 11 guys doing there job responsibilty in unison respective of their own positions.That only happens when you practice over and over and over again.
That being said,we are a VERY young team on offence and the offence is gonna put our defence in a bad way a number of times untill,you guessed it,they have practiced TOGETHER 4A certain amount of time.We have had no continuity 4A while now.
It’s just gonna take more time,how long???who knows.Soo in the mean time PRACTICE…PRACTICE…PRACTICE
September 29th, 2009 at 7:59 am
I’d rather have Andrew Jones the center fielder as QB.
September 29th, 2009 at 8:09 am
I was thinking about this last night. Yes the play calling is an issue but what else do you expect the coaches to call when you have 8-9 in the box. The last 2 teams we played wanted Russel to beat them knowing that is they way to beat us…well as you saw he clearly didn’t beat Denver but came out with a W against KC.
If he can show he can complete those easy passes it will open up the field so we don’t just have to “go deep”. At this point our RBs are gonna keep getting pounded because they have no holes with a thrown together Oline.
September 29th, 2009 at 8:14 am
RRS
Your numbers mean nothing without listing the number of starts those guys got.
Higgins has dropped way down the depth chart because they don’t want him as receiver primarily, they want him returning kicks.
They want DHB catching 50 yard bombs.
Watch the games, I’m telling you. When they took Miller away, Chaz was there. When they took Chaz away, Miller or Higgins was there.
Don’t look at stats for 2 games and apply them to a whole season.
What they did vs. Houston and in Tampa WORKED. Hell, look at the game in Denver, Russell 10/11 and a TD. Not BS numbers, either, good reads and good throws.
They messed with a good thing, and now Russell is the goat.
You guys need to look closer. Russell isn’t the problem. Would I want Brees or Manning? Of course. Would they be able to succeed here with this scheme? Of course not.
September 29th, 2009 at 8:14 am
You can’t blame Russell entirely for the lack of success for DHB and Murphy.
Russell made Chaz at Z and Higgins at X look pretty good.
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Disagree strongly. Higgins has 28 catches in 2 years. Then none in 2 games healthy/active this year.
Schilens had 15 catches last year. Walker: 15 as well
Russell hasn’t made ANYBODY look good. In fact, one could argue that without Zach Miller he’d be on the bench already. Thats how much his Pro Bowl calibur TE has bailed him out in 19 starts.
Heyward-Bey & Murphy might be studs if they had a solid QB at the helm.
September 29th, 2009 at 8:17 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 8:14 am
Russell hasn’t made ANYBODY look good.
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He has made Southwick look like a HOFer.
September 29th, 2009 at 8:21 am
Headbutt: it’s hard for ANY o-line to produce a dominant rushing attack with 8-9 in the box. The Lions & 49ers contained Adrian Peterson the past 2 weeks that way…
the blueprint for beating the Raiders is easy. run the ball & stop the run. They know Russell isn’t going to beat them with his arm and they aren’t willing to risk throwing at Nnamdi, Huff or CJ. If it’s a passing play find the mismatch. LB on a WR or Routt on just about anybody …
September 29th, 2009 at 8:23 am
Dakota was wrong about DMAC. I demand satisfaction.
September 29th, 2009 at 8:23 am
or Routt on just about anybody …
That just about sums it up…
Think about it: KC would have only 3 points had it not been for Routt getting there too late!!!
September 29th, 2009 at 8:28 am
He has made Southwick look like a HOFer.
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LOL. well said
do Russell supporters actually think that Raider fans want Gradkowski or Frye in the lineup because they are good QB’s? NO! It’s more of a “can’t get much worse” scenario. We know Russell isn’t going to win any games for us. He’s all arm and no brains. All gut and no glory. Al Davis wants to win now. Russell isn’t going to develop by playing more games and getting creamed every time. He’s going to develop when he puts in the work. the time and effort. Gannon said he has the best QB coach in the league. Tollner & Hackett have impressive resumes grooming QB’s. Does anybody really expect him to do a 180 when Chaz Schilens comes back? you expect to start seeing 300 yard/3 TD performances? Let’s be realistic folks. It’s not going to happen.
September 29th, 2009 at 8:30 am
Yup you are right RRS our defense is exposed…. we are running the same crap when RR was here as DCordinator, I tried to give marshall the benefit of the doubt, but he has nocredibity at this point as he has shown no ability to make adjust,emts in the game goodness man we must get preesure on d some way
September 29th, 2009 at 8:33 am
Very well said….
do Russell supporters actually think that Raider fans want Gradkowski or Frye in the lineup because they are good QB’s? NO! It’s more of a “can’t get much worse” scenario. We know Russell isn’t going to win any games for us. He’s all arm and no brains. All gut and no glory. Al Davis wants to win now. Russell isn’t going to develop by playing more games and getting creamed every time. He’s going to develop when he puts in the work. the time and effort. Gannon said he has the best QB coach in the league. Tollner & Hackett have impressive resumes grooming QB’s. Does anybody really expect him to do a 180 when Chaz Schilens comes back? you expect to start seeing 300 yard/3 TD performances? Let’s be realistic folks. It’s not going to happen
September 29th, 2009 at 8:34 am
LA to TheBay
thanks for understanding what i was saying. I know that with JRuss i have been all over the place, first talking about his mechanics etc.and then i caught a couple of clips of JRuss last year and it was like a differnt guy. Reminds me a little of David Carr in Houston. He was getting blown up every passing play becuase of a terrible O-Line. What was the first thing the Texans did? Blame his mechanics and his release. Then they said he was holding the ball too long. I think when it comes to drafting these guys out of college teams are missing the point. What did this guy do better than anyone else to get picked this high? And will those talents cross over to what we are doing at the pro level. If JRuss was throwing a bunch of crossing routes in college, that needs to be a part of the offense with the Raiders. I’d love to see our WR’s catching skinny posts and crossing routes and breaking them for big gains. Then if the coverage bites on the short stuff hit them deep. Now this is gonna sound crazy but the i think the best offense for JRuss would be what we ran with Gannon….. I’ll wait for you to get back in your chairs. What was Gannons weakness? the THREAT of the deep ball. JRuss can hit the short stuff over the middle. The WR’s are young enough that with the right coaching they can learn great route running (FIRE SANJAI LAL!!). And teams have to respect the deep ball and not play tight or we can catch them with some pumpfakes and double moves. Use DMAC like we did Garner (give DMAC game film of Tiki Barber…no more fumbles!!) and Bush like Wheatley. Fargus to close strong. Just some thoughts, just tired of seeing a good team lose.
September 29th, 2009 at 8:36 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 8:23 am
Dakota was wrong about DMAC. I demand satisfaction.
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Have some patience old man!
Besides, I am not into that kind of thing….if you want “satisfaction” see your woman!
September 29th, 2009 at 8:36 am
RRS the point about pple thinking that when chaz comes back the light is gonna come on and russell will be the quaterback we all need him to be for this team…….Cable believes that, from what he said the other day about being close to turning this thing around, he’s putting all his eggs in one basket don’t ya think?
September 29th, 2009 at 8:39 am
Lol, our next five games are just too tough we have shown we are not ready to even compete with them other teams, the texans will probably run over us again like they did last time with slaton , talk about a steeeep climb
September 29th, 2009 at 8:39 am
Have the assistants been deposed?
If not, think they’ll tell the truth?
September 29th, 2009 at 8:40 am
Oh, does Cable think we are going to turn it around against the Giants, Eagles, Jets or Chargers before the bye week?
lol…if we don’t win next week against the Texans, we will probably be 1-7 going into the bye…and Al will have made up his mind to fire the baffoon….hopefully.
September 29th, 2009 at 8:40 am
OK everybody together…Begin…
Wax On
Wax Off
Wax ON
Wax Off
September 29th, 2009 at 8:41 am
At least the team in entertaining off the field…can’t wait to see Cable’s mug shot!
September 29th, 2009 at 8:42 am
Cable’s playing Madden ‘04 out there and not very well.
DT42 is absolutely correct.
You don’t draft a guy and mess with his everything.
You teach, you tweak, you polish.
He’s not dumb and he sees more than half of the field. Some of you put too much stock in these TV broadcasts and talking heads.
Anyone willing to post my breakdowns? They’re saved as .bmp files but I have no web-based to post them on.
The film won’t lie.
Russell is not a great QB, but he’s not the dumb, lazy ox you’re portraying him to be.
He’s less of an ox and more of a goat.
September 29th, 2009 at 8:43 am
LA to TheBay :
Russell supporters love to point out 2 or 3 games out of 19 to prove he’s not a bust. 11 pass attempts doesn’t suggest Russell won that game with his arm. He just played mistake free football. the running game and defense saved the day. what if Denver shut down our running game and he was forced to throw? would he be 20/22 or 30/33 with 2 or 3 TD’s? doubtful …
Houston & Tampa Bay (after Monte Kiffin quit on them) didn’t play inspired/physical defense. Again, we ran the football and played sound defense and won the games. Without Michael Bush the game against TB was a loss. Gruden would still be employed there and Cable wouldn’t be here!
stats can be misleading at times yes, but when a guy has caught less than 20 balls in his NFL career it’s smart to take a wait & see approach. JLH isn’t in the mix and he was more impressive than Chaz last year.
2 good (not great) games out of 20 means you’re closer to a bust than a star. much closer. thats not what you’re looking for in a #1 overall draft choice. We could have drafted somebody who plays like him in the 6th or 7th round and saved a boatload of money!
September 29th, 2009 at 8:44 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 8:21 am
Headbutt: it’s hard for ANY o-line to produce a dominant rushing attack with 8-9 in the box. The Lions & 49ers contained Adrian Peterson the past 2 weeks that way…
the blueprint for beating the Raiders is easy. run the ball & stop the run. They know Russell isn’t going to beat them with his arm and they aren’t willing to risk throwing at Nnamdi, Huff or CJ. If it’s a passing play find the mismatch. LB on a WR or Routt on just about anybody …
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Precisely. Russell is holding this team back in a big way. People don’t realize that it’s all related and that it’s affecting the run game.
September 29th, 2009 at 8:44 am
Los Salvajes (caracoles Marinos)
A jerras
A semi gusto que compadre
Collo loco cigarillos
Fant O´ lasso semi Pablo
El Prego
Con si la sangos de la pek pek
A zorro fronto Kimi Larso
Los muchachas q-que basso
A Jerras
A semi gustu que compadre “e soi compadros”
Collo loco cigarillos “fueme los cigarrilos”
Fanto lasso semi Pablo
El Prego “con si lagurnas”
Co si la snogos de la pek pek
“Prado!”
A Zorro fronto Kimi Larso “no fronto me mano”
Los muchachas q-que basso
“El Prego mall dano”
“Alora”
“Allo?”
“Qui parla?”
“El torro de macho”
“Boerno sirras senor”
“No hipla no haplo”
“E ley?”
“Allo – diggaloo diggaley!”
“Bello?”
“Hvar?”
“E eh – bello?”
“Amiga callamiga caramello!”
“Carmen”
“Disco!”
“Capisto”
“Uh”
“Uhhmmmm”
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LOL
September 29th, 2009 at 8:47 am
Or will the assistants lie to cover Cable’s derriere?
Can you say derriere?
September 29th, 2009 at 8:48 am
Call him what you want.
Bad throwing eeez bad throwing.
Period.
September 29th, 2009 at 8:48 am
4evaRaider Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 8:40 am
OK everybody together…Begin…
Wax On
Wax Off
Wax ON
Wax Off
September 29th, 2009 at 8:48 am
RRS
Look at it chronologically.
3-3 down the stretch. Over 60% More TDs than picks.
The whole team sucked before that, not just Russell.
That’s tunnell vision.
Down the stretch, as he was growing and progressing, he looked solid.
So what if he didn’t “win” the game and they ran the ball?
No other team ever won anything with a capable QB and good running game?
Make excuses for Monte’s D, they gave him different looks and rushed 5. He looked at all his options on the field and found the holes in the zone.
When he’s on board with a receiver, like Lelie in the Denver game, they can bail him out. That’s any QB by the way. Sometimes the run game and a savvy WR bail you out. That’s not just football, that’s good football.
September 29th, 2009 at 8:49 am
DirtyBathWater:
Tom Cable said “we’re on the brink” after getting beatdown by the donks at home. WOW. really?
It looked like we’re on the brink of disaster before being on the brink of turning things around. the team has regressed each week.
maybe “turning things around” means no turnovers from Russell or McFadden? that would be a good place to start!
September 29th, 2009 at 8:49 am
Jr needs Pat Morita.
Pat Morita for next head coach.
September 29th, 2009 at 8:51 am
Lol, yeah unable cable cracks me up when he says that kinda stuff about on the brink of turning it around….. he sounds like Obama… who is he kidding man? We are the laughing stock of the league along with cleveland and detroit….and stafford looks like a gamer btw
September 29th, 2009 at 8:52 am
I just want to see these boys play hard in Houston and scratch out a win.
Before the coaching staff and a lackluster performance doomed us on Sunday, this team could ‘hang with anyone’ and ‘compete’ and ‘8-8′ and ‘the 70s defense worked’ and ‘only Russell’s holding us back.’
BS.
Al Davis and Tom Cable are holding us back.
Stick Jason Garrett as OC w/ Russell and watch us roll.
Stick Romo w/ Cable and Davis and watch him suck.
September 29th, 2009 at 8:53 am
Cable won’t light a fire under Russell’s azz simply because he’s sort of doing the same thing. Collecting a paycheck. Yeah, he’d like to win some games but he’s towing the company line, kissing Davis’ azz, and doing everything he wants, right down to starting DHB and Russell at the expense of the rest of the team.
BTW, how much of a professional is that cat Nnamdi? This guy is the consummate pro. To have all that talent and smarts, and having it just wasted in a dump of a team with players like Russell. A lot of other players in his position would be b1tchin right about now. Too bad his talents are being wasted tho.
September 29th, 2009 at 8:55 am
anybody think we’ll sign Louis Rankin to the practice squad after he clears waivers? I hope so …
September 29th, 2009 at 8:58 am
lol
September 29th, 2009 at 9:00 am
I actually feel bad for Cable. He seems like a decent guy when he isn’t breaking people’s jaws and spouting the company line.
He is like the innocent guy promoted to CEO right before the Feds raid the company. He couldn’t handle it so he broke a guy’s jaw and is now facing jail time. He probably would never have done something like that prior to finding himself promoted to HC of the Oakland Riaders.
But, at least he makes millions and once this nightmare is over for him this winter, he can take a job as o-line coach somewhere in the NFL.
September 29th, 2009 at 9:04 am
Cable won’t light a fire under Russell’s azz simply because he’s sort of doing the same thing. Collecting a paycheck. Yeah, he’d like to win some games but he’s towing the company line, kissing Davis’ azz, and doing everything he wants, right down to starting DHB and Russell at the expense of the rest of the team.
BTW, how much of a professional is that cat Nnamdi? This guy is the consummate pro. To have all that talent and smarts, and having it just wasted in a dump of a team with players like Russell. A lot of other players in his position would be b1tchin right about now. Too bad his talents are being wasted tho.
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Did you really just say that Russell and Cable are just collecting checks and that Nnamdi is a consumate pro?
Seriously? Nnamdi could be on a contender that doesn’t pay him 14 mil a year. Nnam is collecting a check like everyone else. A much fatter check, actually.
September 29th, 2009 at 9:05 am
Rockstar
your right about stats not showing the complete picture, but if your a Defensive Coordinator and you are going up against a QB that you know for a fact has been given a horrible game plan, a plan in which the QB is not allowed to audible out of a bad play, an offense that may send out only 2 receivers on any given play and a QB that is thinking more about the “new” way to throw a ball instead of throwing it the way he has since he was about 10 years old. Your are gonna have a field day. A Coaches job is to put his players in a postion to win.
This years offense has abandoned cut blocking and refuse to throw anything short. No bubble screens, no hitches to Miller, no slants or slip screens nothing. No audibles for JRuss? fine at least package the plays to have some coverage beaters on each side. Maybe tag a couple of routes or something. Give this team a chance to score.
September 29th, 2009 at 9:06 am
tunnell vision?
Isn’t it “tunnell vision” to look at 2 games out of 20? I’m looking at the big picture buddy. You’re the one looking at a few plays in a few years …
this is like the pot calling the kettle black.
Let me ask you this question: If/When Russell continues to struggle this season, when do you pull the plug? do you give your franchise QB all 16 games regardless or do you give the owner, the fans and 52 other players on the field the best chance to win football games? it’s an honest question. take your time
September 29th, 2009 at 9:06 am
Thank god Nnamdi, much like the rest of you and Al Davis, were fooled into believing Cable was the guy by those two meaningless victories at the end of last season and re-signed with us.
I’ll bet Seymour won’t be fooled into signing a deal with us.
September 29th, 2009 at 9:06 am
This years offense has abandoned cut blocking and refuse to throw anything short. No bubble screens, no hitches to Miller, no slants or slip screens nothing. No audibles for JRuss? fine at least package the plays to have some coverage beaters on each side. Maybe tag a couple of routes or something. Give this team a chance to score.
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I’ve watched all 3 games this season. Sorry to tell you that this is 100 percent false. complete bs
If you want to make a case that the playcalling is bad, fine. do that. If you want blame everybody not just JR, fine. do that.
don’t make stuff up to try and prove a point. this isn’t a political blog
September 29th, 2009 at 9:06 am
Al’s Offseason to do list:
BAIL CABLE OUT OF JAIL AND THEN FIRE CABLE!!!!!
HIRE ANYONE BUT ART SHELL OR DENNIS GREEN!!!!!
TRADE FOR KOLB OR MCNABB!!!!!!!
DRAFT O-LINE AND LBERS!!!!!
DON’T DRAFT S, WR, RB, CB!!!!!!!!!
BEG SEYMOUR TO RE-SIGN!!!!!!!
September 29th, 2009 at 9:08 am
Since we can’t pass the ball, we might as well run another TE out on the field so that we have a chance to run the ball!!!
Besides, Meyers is our second best receiving target right now behind Miller!
September 29th, 2009 at 9:09 am
Good news: the coaching staff has brought in a child psychologist to do some regression therapy with players. Apparently during games Jamarcus reverts to the muscle memory of his childhood pattern of skipping stones on the bayou (underthrown passes) and knocking coons and opossums from the treetops (high throws). Hopefully they’re making progress in time for Sunday. Early word is that McFadden was a child star bowler, so he might need some extra work.
September 29th, 2009 at 9:09 am
tunnell vision?
Isn’t it “tunnell vision” to look at 2 games out of 20? I’m looking at the big picture buddy. You’re the one looking at a few plays in a few years …
this is like the pot calling the kettle black.
Let me ask you this question: If/When Russell continues to struggle this season, when do you pull the plug? do you give your franchise QB all 16 games regardless or do you give the owner, the fans and 52 other players on the field the best chance to win football games? it’s an honest question. take your time
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None needed.
Tunnell vision probably a poor choice of words.
What I’m trying to say is you’re looking at his performance in the last 3 games, and his career in general.
Ok, when did they actually let him do anything of merit with some responsibility? Early last season? Nope.
When the team started playing as a unit and Cable was calling good plays, Russell played well as the QB on a football team.
He needs the other 10 guys pulling their weight and an opportunity from the coaches to have realistic play calling.
When do I pull the plug?
I don’t know, can Gradkowski or Frye throw 60 yards? They better if we stick with the current gameplan.
Don’t pull Russell, pull the gameplan.
September 29th, 2009 at 9:11 am
Or get Lamar Odom as our WR…
September 29th, 2009 at 9:13 am
Nnamdi could be on a contender that doesn’t pay him 14 mil a year. Nnam is collecting a check like everyone else. A much fatter check, actually.
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couldn’t agree more. Nnamdi is an awesome player and I’m glad he’s on our side, but if Davis didn’t overpay him he’d be wearing different colors on Sunday … Same with Shane Lechler
This wasn’t about loyalty. It was a business transaction.
If the dump wanted to pay you $15 million per year and IBM wanted to pay you $10 million per year you’d probably work for the dump. Am I right?
September 29th, 2009 at 9:19 am
Lamar Odor is soft, would want him no where near any ball
September 29th, 2009 at 9:21 am
Well running DMAC on sunday isn’t going to get easier because reliant statium has natural grass so he is gonna trip all over the place
September 29th, 2009 at 9:21 am
Rockstar, so we just ran all over KC right?? In the SD game did we cut block? I only counted once. I see a lot of pounding McFadden up the middle. I see a lot of power plays.
I don’t have to make any of this up, go back and look at the games. count how many times the back side O-lineman cutblocked? If i’m wrong i’ll admit it.
September 29th, 2009 at 9:21 am
I agree with most of you that our QB play stinks.
I guess I have to play devil’s advocate, because very few of you are picking up on what I’m picking up on, unless I’m retarded. (cut and paste and add snide comment here
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When I look at the games the coaching staff gave Russell the keys and said, ‘we’re counting on you to make some key throws. You’ll have the run support and the D will keep you in the game,’ he came through.
There’s not much of a body of work to look at RRS, he’s been a starter for a season and change.
The last two games, he had no chance.
The first 9 last year (missing one due to injury), the game didn’t really go through him. And if it did, it’s obvious he started putting it together near the end.
September 29th, 2009 at 9:22 am
Dakota Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 8:36 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 8:23 am
Dakota was wrong about DMAC. I demand satisfaction.
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Have some patience old man!
Besides, I am not into that kind of thing….if you want “satisfaction” see your woman!
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I meant beer, pervert.
September 29th, 2009 at 9:22 am
Cable—–6 blowout losses and counting.
How many more do we need to see Al?
September 29th, 2009 at 9:27 am
OK, RRS, you have a point. He’s been missing guys that are open. Absolutely correct.
And it looked really awful.
Now if we can agree he played serviceable down the stretch last year, then what the hell happened?
I know he didn’t just forget how to play QB.
So we’re left speculating as to why.
Most are willing to look at his numbers over 3 games and call him a dumb monkey and a bust.
I think that’s
1. deplorable
2. not accurate
3. premature
What happened?
September 29th, 2009 at 9:28 am
When the team started playing as a unit and Cable was calling good plays, Russell played well as the QB on a football team.
He needs the other 10 guys pulling their weight and an opportunity from the coaches to have realistic play calling.
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this is the root cause of our disagreement. you blame the playcalling, I blame the execution. Cable is the same guy yesterday, today, last year and in college as a play caller. You’re willing to blame 10 other guys before Russell. I’ve seen the o-line play well the majority of the time for Russell, besides his first NFL start Week 17 against the Chargers. that was awful. I’ve seen open WR’s, TE’s and RB’s in every game where Russell didn’t even glance their way. I’ve seen him throw behind guys, overthrow them, throw at their feet, throw into double & triple coverage.
I am willing to give Russell credit for one improvement though. his pocket awareness & ball security. he hasn’t fumbled the ball even once through 3 games against division opponents.
September 29th, 2009 at 9:33 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
September 29th, 2009 at 9:22 am
I meant beer, pervert.
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lol
September 29th, 2009 at 9:35 am
Hey everyone! Been a reader of this blog for a few years now. I enjoy reading everyones comments daily.
As for our team. I really can’t take watching Russell at QB any longer. You can blame the WR’s in part, but the truth of the matter is I feel Russell is getting solid pass protection and guys have been open. He just doesn’t make accurate throws. I don’t know whether that can be taught. Just like running fast or throwing hard. It is true timing with WR is important, but I don’t see that as a huge issue.
As for defense, I don’t know how much I like seeing man defense on most plays, and rarely do we blitz. Seems like a bad combination. I am not saying man is terrible, just can’t be done every play.
Here is a question though, didn’t we have a decent defense back in the Gruden/Gannon years, or was it just that our offense covered up any bad defensive play.
Go Raiders!
September 29th, 2009 at 9:39 am
Play calling is only part of it. fact is that Japorkchop is not accurate, cannot read an entire field, and is slow in his decision making. Believe me there is plenty of blame to go around, and if Japorkchop hit open receivers consistently and they were dropping everything I’d cut him some slack. Yeah right off his pork-belly. LMFAO!
September 29th, 2009 at 9:40 am
RR
The Playcaller hasn’t changed, but the Playcalling has changed! You see “Open WR’s, TE’s and RB’s in every game where Russell didn’t even glance their way.”
- Your right, Russell’s been limited by his Pre Snap Read and had the field cut in half.
“throwing behind guys, overthrowing guys throwing at their feet.”
- Passing mechanics were altered in the offseason.
“throwing into double coverage”
- pass plays with only 2 receivers and a frustrated QB.
I like Cable and want him to to well. But i want the Cable from last year, not this year. He’s trying to change too much. Fix what was broken. Things like pass protection, RB’s blocking etc. Leave Russell’s mechanics alone. Shorten the routes and take shots deep when the coverage adapts. DMAC go hang out with Tiki Barber and stop fumbling. Allow Russell to attack the entire field!
September 29th, 2009 at 9:44 am
Over the past 6 seasons how many different coaches and players have the Raiders had all with the same results???? One common factor that has caused this cancer. Al Davis is the cancer that has infected this organization to where it’s at today. Poor drafting, Coaches not being able to coach, no discipline, it goes on and on. Why have other players and coaches gone on to success elsewhere? Prime examples are Norv and Randy Moss. I hate both of them, but facts are facts. Al wants to win, but only Al’s way. He obviously would rather lose and keep losing than to have someone else help win. (See Jon Gruden). Those of you who continue to go to games and support Al Davis are just drinking the kool aid. It just like buying booze for an alcholic. Will never get better until the cancer is removed.
September 29th, 2009 at 10:06 am
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September 29th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
I don’t beleive hansons story of him being responsible for the secondarys play… The secondary is our strength, it’s our linebackers that are the crutch. He takes credit for the diego game but none else. This dudes a liar and is trying to make himself out to be a victim. Yea I believe cable hit him but I also believe he provoked him to do so, I find it hard to believe that cable would just hit him like that for no reason.
September 30th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
playcalling has nothing to do with it. all the other teams do the same play calling except they have playmakers that execute the play alot better.