Schilens may still be a ways off
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, October 1st, 2009 at 3:44 pm in Oakland Raiders.
News and notes from Thursday’s post-practice press briefing by Raiders coach Tom Cable:
– This is just a hunch, but it’s starting to look as if wide receiver Chaz Schilens (broken left metatarsal) may not be much of a factor next for next week’s game against the New York Jets, let alone Sunday’s road game against the Houston Texans.
Schilens has been out of view of the media ever since the team returned to Alameda, and although Cable has publicly held out hope his best receiver could play against Houston, it doesn’t look like he’s anywhere close to taking the field.
As the Raiders began Friday’s session, Schilens was working along with free safety Hiram Eugene doing some low impact agility exercises. Schilens may join his teammates Friday for some individual drills and do what Cable described as “light work, just kind of introduce him to it.”
Regarding Schilens availability for Sunday, Cable said, “I would say this: it’s doubtful.”
Asked how Schilens would fit in when healthy, Cable said, “I think once he’s back into the routine, absolutely, we need to get him involved. But that may lend itself to a little more three-receiver stuff.”
When quarterback JaMarcus Russell spoke to reporters before practice, it didn’t sound as if he has been throwing to Schilens or even communicating about the particulars of when the receiver would return.
“I don’t know,” Russell said. “I haven’t heard from Chaz as far as his recovery. But I know he’s doing pretty good. He’ll be a big help, and to the young guys, he’ll be a help to them just by letting them know he was young before he’d been in it and go out there and make some plays. It would be good to get him back.”
Since Schilens has done little more than treadmill work after an initial period of inactivity, it’s been six weeks since he really ran and cut on his foot. It could be midseason before we see the Schilens who was so impressive during training camp and caught give passes from Russell in the preseason opener against Dallas.
– One of Darren McFadden’s problems, other than fumbles? The pass isn’t going well enough to set up the run.
“He’s been somewhat productive when it’s been there is the best way to say it,” Cable said. “But again we need to throw the ball in order to have more lanes open up.”
– Houston quarterback Matt Schaub has thrown for 823 yards with a 64.5 percent completion rate with seven touchdown passes and two interceptions through three games, which doesn’t come as a shock to Cable. He was the line coach with the Falcons when Schaub was the backup for Michael Vick.
“We thought he was really good. He was terrific. At that time he was the No. 2 and we thought maybe the best No. 2 in football,” Cable said. “It doesn’t surprise me at all what Matt’s doing.”
– Cable said Thursday was another sharp practice and reiterated his belief the Raiders are nearing a breakthrough game and that the players realize it, but that it’s about time to make it happen.
“Actually, they’re the easiest (to convince) because they can see it,” Cable said. “It’s one thing to say it and then it’s not really there. We had another good day so they can see it because they have seen so much and been here enough.
“They’re really the catalysts for getting it going . . . you have to have the proof at some point.”
– Eugene should get in some work Friday, Cable said, but is still “questionable” and the probability is that Michael Huff will start again at free safety. Huff was limited with rib and quadriceps issues. Cornerback Jonathan Holland was limited (elbow) and could be active as a cornerback though Justin Miller was brought in to return kickoffs.
Holland, although only recently moved to defense, would play ahead of Miller in the secondary, Cable said.
Fullback Luke Lawton sustained a light hamstring strain at the conclusion of the Wednesday practice and was limited Thursday. Cable said he would have a better idea about Lawton’s game availability Friday.
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October 1st, 2009 at 3:51 pm
NAPA POLICE ARE LAGGING WE NEED CABLE IN PRISON
MY OLD HIGH SCHOOL COACH COULD CALL BETTER PLAY’S THAN CABLE.
I TOTALLY AGREE WITH DAKOTA
ALTHOUGH JaCarneAsadaTaco CAN’T EVEN COMPLETE SCREEN PASSES HE SHARES EQUAL BLAME.
LMFAO JaCarneAsadaTaco I CRACK ME UP SOMETIMES LOL
October 1st, 2009 at 3:52 pm
JaPinkTaco
ohh yeah, he shoots he scores….. swishhhh, nothing but net..
October 1st, 2009 at 3:52 pm
Not good news.
October 1st, 2009 at 3:53 pm
Hey, I warned you guys this wasn’t a 6 week injury…
October 1st, 2009 at 3:54 pm
Time to go home and eat some Jadumpling Soup.
October 1st, 2009 at 3:54 pm
I’m having JaBLT’s tonight…
Had JaLeftovers last night…
October 1st, 2009 at 3:55 pm
I told you guys prepare for a 4-12 at best this season
October 1st, 2009 at 3:55 pm
Shilens gone for awhile? Great.
October 1st, 2009 at 3:56 pm
“I don’t know,” Russell said. “I haven’t heard from Chaz as far as his recovery. But I know he’s doing pretty good. He’ll be a big help, and to the young guys, he’ll be a help to them just by letting them know he was young before he’d been in it and go out there and make some plays. It would be good to get him back.”
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CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TRANSLATE THAT MIDDLE PART INTO THE LANGUAGE I SPEAK.
October 1st, 2009 at 3:57 pm
HEY 909 SEE IT WORKS WITH ANYTHING LOL
JaChickenFriedSteak
lmfao
October 1st, 2009 at 4:00 pm
Ok, now for the grand daddy of them all…..
Drum roll please…..
JaMbalaya
OH YEAH, HE HITS IT AT THE BUZZER….
My work here is finished….
October 1st, 2009 at 4:02 pm
“… and to the young guys, he’ll be a help to them just by letting them know he was young before he’d been in it and go out there and make some plays.”
JEEZUZ JaMbalaya, talk about a butchering of the Queens English. Can anyone, i mean ANYONE, tell me WTF he just said?
LOL. So let me get this straight, Shillens will be able to help the “young” guys just by letting them know he was young before? LMFAO.
October 1st, 2009 at 4:02 pm
we probably wont see Gallery this year either….comeback from a broken leg in 4 weeks?
October 1st, 2009 at 4:04 pm
UPLE…
Had a JaBurrito for lunch…
October 1st, 2009 at 4:07 pm
I had a JaNachos!!Mmm..get in my belly!!
October 1st, 2009 at 4:08 pm
I’m out, nation. Be good.
Ricky, stop disapearing before Jerry posts his new thread all the time. Wonder why that is.
October 1st, 2009 at 4:09 pm
if chaz is out why not put javon walker to start, come on give the guy a chance you just never know, but I reiterate we got jawalrus as qb. I honestly think if this bust plays like garbage this sunday, then theres no way that Cable doesnt bench him
October 1st, 2009 at 4:16 pm
JaEnglishmuffin and coffee for breakfast…
That about covers it.. ice COLD beer time…
October 1st, 2009 at 4:16 pm
cheese and wine
October 1st, 2009 at 4:18 pm
listen it’s time for
JaRibEyeSteak JaMashedPotatoes with JaBrownGravy JaBroccoli with JaCheezeWhiz.
and for desert JaLemonBars
now i remember why i married my wife she can JaCook.
October 1st, 2009 at 4:18 pm
JaChimichanga for lunch!!
October 1st, 2009 at 4:19 pm
You guys are killing me with the jamunchies jokes. Please stop people are looking at me cuz i keep lol.
October 1st, 2009 at 4:19 pm
Jamacandcheese
October 1st, 2009 at 4:26 pm
The guy says “I don’t know” than 10 words later says, “But I know”. LOL
Good to see where Cable’s heads at, saying when we get Chaz back it will lead to more “3 WR sets”.
RUN THE BALL COACH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 1st, 2009 at 4:26 pm
man im as dumb as japoatroast i missed spelles dessert
desert lmfao
October 1st, 2009 at 4:41 pm
Ok im back on the bandwagon. Lets go raiders.
October 1st, 2009 at 4:42 pm
Russell is gonna tear it up!!!
October 1st, 2009 at 4:42 pm
Jamarcus bandwagon.
October 1st, 2009 at 4:44 pm
No More Infield or Trolls Says:
October 1st, 2009 at 4:45 pm
loco eng you are a moron.
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listen were just trying to have a little fun it’s a rough time to for the raider nation.
i didn’t ask for or respond to any of your opinions why don’t you go hose off your trailer and stay out of my biz.
October 1st, 2009 at 4:45 pm
loco eng you are a moron.
October 1st, 2009 at 4:46 pm
No More Infield or Trolls Says:
October 1st, 2009 at 4:50 pm
loco I really hope you don’t really operate any heavy machinery cause you are an absolute idiot…
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on what grounds ????????
October 1st, 2009 at 4:47 pm
Ya mean misjamarcus?
October 1st, 2009 at 4:50 pm
loco I really hope you don’t really operate any heavy machinery cause you are an absolute idiot…
October 1st, 2009 at 4:54 pm
You just sound very dumb, that’s all…
October 1st, 2009 at 4:54 pm
Hey what about Mcfumble? If ur gonna hate, pass it around!
October 1st, 2009 at 4:55 pm
No, I think the jokes are funny but I think you’re an idiot. Scary thought you operating anything larger than a bicycle. How the hell did you manage to get that job? Don’t they test your aptitude first?
October 1st, 2009 at 4:56 pm
My all-time favorite nickname…. JaMarcus The Hut
October 1st, 2009 at 4:56 pm
No More Infield or Trolls Says:
October 1st, 2009 at 4:50 pm
loco I really hope you don’t really operate any heavy machinery cause you are an absolute idiot…
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i run a freight train better than JaPoatRoast play’s QB if i didn’t my union wouldn’t even be able to protect me.
October 1st, 2009 at 4:58 pm
Wow, another trailer joke. How funny is that! Gee that hasn’t been done before, now has it?
October 1st, 2009 at 4:59 pm
raiderrej Says:
October 1st, 2009 at 4:56 pm
My all-time favorite nickname…. JaMarcus The Hut
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hey raiderrej
easy your going to upset No More Infield or Trolls
October 1st, 2009 at 5:02 pm
I understand our frustration. I really do.
Jamarcus is our QB and I’m standing behind him.
Some of you on here are worse than any Bronco fan ever thought of being.
There comes a time when you can bish and moan and theres a time when you work with what you’ve got and make it the best it can be.
J rocks young, he’s inexperienced and doesn’t have the tools to help him yet.
He’ll get there…
October 1st, 2009 at 5:04 pm
No More Infield or Trolls Says:
October 1st, 2009 at 4:50 pm
loco I really hope you don’t really operate any heavy machinery cause you are an absolute idiot…
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i’m sorry i won’t hate on JaPoatROAST anymore i was unaware you bought his jersey ( there has to be a reason you don’t like us bagging on him)
just have a yard sale out in front of your trailer someone will give you 10 bucks for it.
a word of advise stick with throwbacks.
October 1st, 2009 at 5:04 pm
Ok Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! feel better? Its week 4 Geez… loosen up the pantys and support the team. Boooooooooooooooooo!
October 1st, 2009 at 5:06 pm
No More Infield or Trolls Says:
October 1st, 2009 at 4:55 pm
No, I think the jokes are funny but I think you’re an idiot. Scary thought you operating anything larger than a bicycle. How the hell did you manage to get that job? Don’t they test your aptitude first?
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don’t hate we can’t all work at 7-11
October 1st, 2009 at 5:08 pm
No More Infield or Trolls Says:
October 1st, 2009 at 5:11 pm
Wow, another zinger from Loco. Impressive… You should do some stand up. Really…
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next time mind your own business then. i have never once said a word to you. leave me alone and i’ll do the same.
October 1st, 2009 at 5:08 pm
Sad that the team I follow has to have so many idiot fans…
October 1st, 2009 at 5:11 pm
Wow, another zinger from Loco. Impressive… You should do some stand up. Really…
October 1st, 2009 at 5:15 pm
At least you stopped writing in your annoying all caps style… That’s a good start…
October 1st, 2009 at 5:17 pm
Nnamdi you are the optimistic person on this site, sometimes mayb dillusional, but optimistic. I do hope your right about it tho…
October 1st, 2009 at 5:17 pm
I must admit,this Jamarcus stuff is crazy funny.I have a couple that hasn’t been mentioned yet or I haven’t noticed being said as of yet.How about Jaghetti and Meatballs and JaWalMart.Sorry Jamarcus I am a Raider fan and this is what happens when you piss us off.
October 1st, 2009 at 5:23 pm
Jamasaurus.
October 1st, 2009 at 5:24 pm
Namdi remembers Russell ripping it up the last two games of last season and saw his potential that’s why. Pinpoint passing and a very nice QB rating. Obviously he has regressed for reasons unkown. I scream at the TV as much as anyone else but I also know it’s not all on him.
October 1st, 2009 at 5:25 pm
Oakglenn, you brought out an exceelent point on Russell’s second int. Bailey interferred with DHB and it wasn’t called forcing that int. The pass quite frankly was well thrown. But as usual no one sees that, all they see the fat guy threw another int. lol
In relity that was not a bad game by Russell to be honest but when he has very little help and a fumbling HB to boot he is going to take all the heat. I think Russell at times tries to do too much to make up for what’s not working including himself and it just makes things worse.
I would love to see this team take the 49ers approach and run the football and play tough defense until they get Chaz back. What we need right now is to reduce the mistakes and get some continuity of some sort and work from there.
How ’bout we start with MBush and Fargas at HB and put DMC in the slot until Chaz gets back we could get all the playmakers on the field at the same time and try to get some continuity.
October 1st, 2009 at 5:27 pm
Wow, Jabustus really is as stupid as I thought. He talks about Schilens as if he is Marvin Harisson, Randy Moss, Andre Johnson or Hines Ward. That’s how bad the situation really is, we need a guy with 15 career receptions to help our WR’s!!!
October 1st, 2009 at 5:33 pm
I know everyone wants support him and stand behind JaburgerKing… Literally , the whole nation can stand behind him!
October 1st, 2009 at 5:35 pm
If Mark Sanchez played for the Raiders, he’d have numbers like the Raider Quarterback, JaMarcus Russell.
The Alameda Tar Pits.
October 1st, 2009 at 5:36 pm
No actually you’re as stupid as you thought he’s just saying that Chaz is the guy on his team that he has confidence in. I didn’t read anywhere where he compares Chaz to anyone.
You did that for him……
October 1st, 2009 at 5:40 pm
Jamasaurus Rex…
October 1st, 2009 at 5:41 pm
Plunketthead Says:
October 1st, 2009 at 5:45 pm
Major Harris just received an award at West Virginia game. Played one year for the Raiders.
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they made him a Colonel???
October 1st, 2009 at 5:42 pm
Enough JaWalrus jokes!!! We all know it’s Al Davis’s fault were in this situation…
October 1st, 2009 at 5:42 pm
cripes…
i’m doing that time space continuum thingy again…
dammit…
i hate time travel…
October 1st, 2009 at 5:45 pm
Major Harris just received an award at West Virginia game. Played one year for the Raiders.
October 1st, 2009 at 5:48 pm
Jamasaurus Rex is being attacked by the Raptors…
the raptors have been against him from day one…
only the Big Al-osaurus can help him…
oh, my…
run away…
October 1st, 2009 at 5:50 pm
priesttj Says:
October 1st, 2009 at 5:25 pm
“In relity that was not a bad game by Russell to be honest”
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I don’t think that’s being very honest
October 1st, 2009 at 5:50 pm
#53 DMC in the slot is a great idea. They could run reverses or use the wildcat if they wanted to.
October 1st, 2009 at 5:52 pm
The only thing JaBeeotch cares about is making sure his triple cheeseburger doesn’t have any vegetables on it.
October 1st, 2009 at 6:03 pm
This will be the ultimate test for Jamarcus to prove he doesn’t flat-out suck.
The Texans D isn’t very good. They have one of the best fields in the league, with no weather issues. Not a huge home-field advantage.
Plus he played maybe his best game ever against them. He has to play well, he has no reason not to.
October 1st, 2009 at 6:09 pm
If JaBigMac would show up in shape, he wouldn’t have to deal with these jokes. Lol
October 1st, 2009 at 6:14 pm
Only in my old Kentucky home do they make you a Colonel for no good reason.
Hell they made me one.
October 1st, 2009 at 6:16 pm
I stand behind Jamarcus in part because we have no other choice. You guys really want Gradkowski or Frye to go in. What does that really do for us. Maybe 1 more game? I even doubt that.
I actually don’t mind the Int’s. That at least means it’s a catchable ball!
October 1st, 2009 at 6:17 pm
The Steelers have Big Ben
We have JaBigbus
Dont add a t to the end of it.
October 1st, 2009 at 6:21 pm
Plenty of great players in many different sports have been benched at some point in time in their career.
Jamarcus needs to get a clue, and the sooner the better. If Frye or Gradowski came and happened to win a game or two, maybe Jamarcus would realize he needs to tap into his vast potential rather than waste it.
October 1st, 2009 at 6:26 pm
The UFL starts next week….anyone else going to watch?
October 1st, 2009 at 6:27 pm
Only to see if Losman gets drunk and tackles a cheerleader
October 1st, 2009 at 6:31 pm
WTF….
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/263687-oakland-raiders-is-jamarcus-russell-betraying-raider-nation?search_query=jamarcus
October 1st, 2009 at 6:32 pm
I read an article about DMC and he said that zone blocking scheme was designed to keep pounding it between the tackles until the defense gives up a big play… So I don’t see Coach Comcast changing his play calling since we’re “on the brink of something special here”…
October 1st, 2009 at 6:33 pm
JaBangBus… Ja BigBangTheory
October 1st, 2009 at 6:44 pm
# vegas raider Says:
October 1st, 2009 at 6:26 pm
The UFL starts next week….anyone else going to watch?
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Yes, the Raider scouting department. They are looking for upgrades.
October 1st, 2009 at 6:53 pm
Jafraudolous is blaming the young wrs rather than blaming his fat conditioning for over throwing the open wrs. Jamoneyeater got his money from Alclueless and now thinks he has EARNED the right to be the starting QB for this team. Instead he sounds like he already won a Superbowl ring but actually what he won was 31 mill signing bonus, what a Ja-awhole
October 1st, 2009 at 7:02 pm
Alclueless, haha classic.
I actually found some hope for sunday, deep down under all the frustration…
We should be able to move the ball vs the worst rushing defense of the league and just need to mix it up by completing some simple passes. Nnamdi will take care of Andre Johnson and if Scott, Ellis and Seymour can bring some pressure on Schaub we’ll have a good shot at a W.
Anybody else want to join the hope-bus (at least until Sunday, 1 PM)?
October 1st, 2009 at 7:29 pm
Brodeur Says:
October 1st, 2009 at 7:02 pm
Alclueless, haha classic.
I actually found some hope for sunday, deep down under all the frustration…
We should be able to move the ball vs the worst rushing defense of the league and just need to mix it up by completing some simple passes. Nnamdi will take care of Andre Johnson and if Scott, Ellis and Seymour can bring some pressure on Schaub we’ll have a good shot at a W.
Anybody else want to join the hope-bus (at least until Sunday, 1 PM)?
Wow, dude you must be dreaming. Ok, so lets say the defense plays well and we can ran the ball. Houston have been putting points against better defenses than ours. Our defense might hold them until third quarter but offensively if Jabust doesn’t puts points on the board we would get toasted. Our Rbs can run from the 20 all the way to opponents 30 but after Jano will be kicking cause they r going to be gased out. Anytime you ask Ja-awhole to throw the ball, thats 3 n out forcing the defense to save the game. I dont see hope I see misery until Jawalrus gets benched.
October 1st, 2009 at 7:32 pm
Brodeur Says:
October 1st, 2009 at 7:02 pm
Anybody else want to join the hope-bus (at least until Sunday, 1 PM)?
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I ‘m in. I will actually be at the game in Houston. As a TX fan, I get very few chances to see the Raiders live. So I almost have to have hope.
October 1st, 2009 at 7:34 pm
raiders win both Russell mcfadden show up….
October 1st, 2009 at 7:43 pm
is it me or the UFL got some of the stupidest names? Redwoods? Locos? wtf
October 1st, 2009 at 7:46 pm
Brodeur,
I just think that we match up well with Houston. Their strength vs our strength and their weakness vs our weakness.
E.
October 1st, 2009 at 7:56 pm
count me in on the hope bus i’m in
i’m also realistic but i always hope we win
while were hoping let’s hope japoatroast stay’s out of the club and all night chicken and waffles diner and keeps his head in the game.
October 1st, 2009 at 8:00 pm
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October 1st, 2009 at 8:05 pm
Aunt Jamima needs to be perfect and win on top of that to win the nation back… Fire coach Comcast!!!
October 1st, 2009 at 8:14 pm
Hey, Jalupa’s are only .89 cents right now at Taco Bell.
October 1st, 2009 at 8:18 pm
JaJellyDonut may get it figured out soon!
Hey UP_Loco: were u there during the SP days or are you relatively new?
October 1st, 2009 at 8:18 pm
Raiders4eve Says:
October 1st, 2009 at 7:29 pm
Houston have been putting points against better defenses than ours.
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Just seven points vs the Jets and yes some more points vs the Jaguars and the Titans. The Jags have just 3 sacks this season and don’t really have a dominating defensive backfield. Hell, the Raiders DB’s are way better, just take a look at the passing stats, like completion %age, yds per game, etc. and the Titans aren’t that good as they were last year. We can hold them down to about 17 points, but still need some luck to score more than that.
I’m just trying to think positivly and believe me, I was frustrated all week long because of the poor performance and the fact that this was the first NFL game i have ever seen live in stadium. But it’s not the solution to hate on the team because it won’t change anything and it’s not really healty too.
October 1st, 2009 at 8:19 pm
I’d like a seat on the hopebus right next to JaBigButt, heading to lastplaceville through city of worstqbrating and onto Mcfumble town passing by Los Nocatches!!!
October 1st, 2009 at 8:24 pm
i dont know about this game.the Texans have stayed with some good teams and it was surprising that they lost to the Jags but MJD is a beast and DMC is not i just hope he shows up b/c he showed flashes last week he just fumbled too much….i’ll be on the bus for the rest of the year but i think that Chaz needs to get as much rest as possible we cant afford any setbacks.
October 1st, 2009 at 8:27 pm
I swear to you the koolaid is wearing off… And it’s starting to feel like a hangover!!!
October 1st, 2009 at 8:38 pm
Look, I’m a Raider fan just like the rest of you. Do I want the Raiders to win on Sunday? FAUK YES I DO. DO I want JaChurro to play well? FAUK YES I DO…. But realistically it isn’t looking good with Ja7-11 as our QB. Progression is stagnant and declining as rapidly as the Krispy Kreme dozen he is currently inhaling.
October 1st, 2009 at 8:39 pm
# 408RAIDER Says:
October 1st, 2009 at 6:31 pm
WTF….
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/263687-oakland-raiders-is-jamarcus-russell-betraying-raider-nation?search_query=jamarcus
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This article FAUKING pissed me off. What a JaLoser.
October 1st, 2009 at 8:43 pm
# MikieG Says:
October 1st, 2009 at 8:46 pm
I know Im going to catch some flak for this however…….
It would be awesome if the other 90% of you freaking morons would talk about football instead of acting an asinine 12 year old. Jesus H. I read a great article by someone who knows how to write, and actually convey a concise well thought out message and then I look to the comments hoping to find a discussion on the topic. Instead I have to sift through 9 out of 10 posts to find one with a person who actually wants to perhaps give some insight into what were witnessing day in and day out. Its B.S! You guys suck! Get a clue, and talk football, otherwise F.O….! You add nothing, and make the rest of the Nation look like they have your football IQ when in fact the other 10% know more about football than any other fans in the leauge.
The other 10% please keep up the good work, I am reading, but these other total retards just clutter everything up with thier name calling and general idiocy
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You are right, you are going to catch flak for your comments. You stupid…. wait, your nick is MikieG, nevermind….
What made you think this was a well informed blog about everything Raiders? Geez, some peoples kids… JaMazing.
October 1st, 2009 at 8:46 pm
I know Im going to catch some flak for this however…….
It would be awesome if the other 90% of you freaking morons would talk about football instead of acting an asinine 12 year old. Jesus H. I read a great article by someone who knows how to write, and actually convey a concise well thought out message and then I look to the comments hoping to find a discussion on the topic. Instead I have to sift through 9 out of 10 posts to find one with a person who actually wants to perhaps give some insight into what were witnessing day in and day out. Its B.S! You guys suck! Get a clue, and talk football, otherwise F.O….! You add nothing, and make the rest of the Nation look like they have your football IQ when in fact the other 10% know more about football than any other fans in the leauge.
The other 10% please keep up the good work, I am reading, but these other total retards just clutter everything up with thier name calling and general idiocy
October 1st, 2009 at 8:55 pm
Einstein
You’re a dikless wonder.
October 1st, 2009 at 9:04 pm
Einstein Says:
October 1st, 2009 at 9:04 pm
Hey Krappy, JaFauk you old man.
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So, I guess you’re a young man. Spending all day calling names on the internet like a 12 yr old, pathetic. When I was a young man, I was seeing the world, chasing women, making my fortune.
You angry little isolated internet loser. I’m sure your mother is proud.
October 1st, 2009 at 9:04 pm
Hey Krappy, JaFauk you old man.
October 1st, 2009 at 9:07 pm
Did anyone listen to Barbieri & Kamakowi on KNBR this afternoon?
Talk about Raider hating. . . .
Some of the stuff those guys slew on that station borderlines on slander.
October 1st, 2009 at 9:09 pm
# KoolKell Says:
October 1st, 2009 at 9:04 pm
Einstein Says:
October 1st, 2009 at 9:04 pm
Hey Krappy, JaFauk you old man.
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So, I guess you’re a young man. Spending all day calling names on the internet like a 12 yr old, pathetic. When I was a young man, I was seeing the world, chasing women, making my fortune.
You angry little isolated internet loser. I’m sure your mother is proud.
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JEEZUZ, you bitter old man. STFU already. You are always pizzing and moaning, relax you old goat. FAUK. You are just pissed because everyone is hating on your suck azz QB. RELAX MAN.
October 1st, 2009 at 9:10 pm
Well, it’s real disappointing to hear that Schilens may not be hitting the field as soon as we had hoped.
But, in a sense, maybe it’ll be a blessing in disguise. They eventually have to realize that they need to at least TRY and see what Javon Walker has to offer at this point.
He’s the only receiver with any legit experience on the roster and if he’s got anything left in the tank, it just may give J-Russ someone other than Miller to throw to.
October 1st, 2009 at 9:14 pm
I’m running out of words to describe Priest..
priesttj Says:
October 1st, 2009 at 5:25 pm
In relity that was not a bad game by Russell to be honest but when he has very little help and a fumbling HB to boot he is going to take all the heat. I think Russell at times tries to do too much to make up for what’s not working including himself and it just makes things worse.
October 1st, 2009 at 9:18 pm
Believe it or not TK actually supports Jawopper with cheese…
October 1st, 2009 at 9:23 pm
Einstein (lol) what a joke.
The only thing I’m bitter about is Al Davis taking the Raiders to the grave with him. I’m a Raider fan
I’m not bitter about life, you little troll. You don’t see me in here name-calling all day to get my jollies off, like you.
October 1st, 2009 at 9:28 pm
# KoolKell Says:
October 1st, 2009 at 9:23 pm
Einstein (lol) what a joke.
The only thing I’m bitter about is Al Davis taking the Raiders to the grave with him. I’m a Raider fan
I’m not bitter about life, you little troll. You don’t see me in here name-calling all day to get my jollies off, like you.
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Possibly. But all you EVER do is start Internet “rifts” with others and act like a complete azz hat. You will argue with whoever doesn’t share your opinion. You are always arguing and whining at somebody, you talk about troll’s, but yet you are the biggest troll of all, because you are always starting crap with others. If you dont like someones post, just don’t read it and move on. BUt you can’t handle that, you have to open your big trap and start crap. Other than MR and Oakglenn, I think you are the least liked moniker on this blog, and that is for a reason.
Im out unitl Krapppy Kells orderly comes to take him to bed.
Later nation.
October 1st, 2009 at 9:28 pm
Russell, Russell, Russell….
October 1st, 2009 at 9:30 pm
KoolKell & Einstein:
While you to are in the middle of your catfight, let me ask you both this, since you both seem to hate Al Davis:
Whenever Al is no longer with us (hopefully not any time soon) don’t you think the Raiders completely lose all the aura, mystique, uniqueness, us-against-the-world image that is his very essence?
I mean, I don’t know about you, but, those are all the reasons I became a Raider fan in the first place. If it was only about wins/losses, then hell- we could all choose from any number of teams.
But, those are the things that made the Raiders different. They are the things that made the Raiders the Raiders!
And I don’t care what anyone says. When Al is gone, those things are ALL gone.
And frankly, I think the Raiders will become just another team.
And to me, that’s boring. Teams will win and teams will lose. But, being a fan of the Raiders made us different.
And I don’t want that to EVER end. But, it will when Al is gone. And that will suck. You guys may get your wish, but, at that point, you may as well root for any of the 32 teams because there won’t be anything different about this one.
October 1st, 2009 at 9:32 pm
I meant to say “While you TWO”. . . .not “to”
October 1st, 2009 at 9:33 pm
I don’t hate Al, never said I did. I AM losing faith in him though. Al is the Raiders, the Raiders are Al.
Ok, now Im done. Bye.
October 1st, 2009 at 9:33 pm
McFadden is a bust. Too fragile and he fumbles too much.
We have a good back in Michael Bush, but he wasn’t drafted high enough to start.
Maybe some day the Raiders will draft linemen in the first round and return to greatness.
October 1st, 2009 at 9:47 pm
How about Jajudes
October 1st, 2009 at 9:55 pm
Mistabrown Says:
October 1st, 2009 at 9:14 pm
I’m running out of words to describe Priest..
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I can describe you in two words: Browns fan.
October 1st, 2009 at 9:56 pm
Since this team is like long long boring novel…six years long…gotta go with JaMoby Dick…
October 1st, 2009 at 9:57 pm
Kirk the Raid hae been drafting Olinemen in the 1st and 2nd rnds for years. How do you think we got Gallery?
You can’t draft everybody that you need in the 1st rnd. There are 7 rnds to get players and ver good players. If you can get a Schilens in the 7th rnd and Mario in the 3rd rnd you’ve done you’re job.
Damn I wish some of you comedians would conjure up solid tought before you post. Every great player doesn’t have to be drafted in 1st rnd.
Please get that through your thick skulls while your thinking of another Russell fat joke.
October 1st, 2009 at 9:59 pm
Oak, if these guy’s can at least adjust a route once in a while Russell might have a target. But DMC has to show what he can do or else Cable has GOT to give Bush more opportunities.
October 1st, 2009 at 10:02 pm
It looks like Shilens is not going to be ready any time soon. It is time for Murphy/DHB/Watkins to contribute. Come on Sanjay and Tom, coach ‘em up!!
October 1st, 2009 at 10:04 pm
I have to admit I was very afraid that what we’ve seen would happen the minute Chaz went down.
October 1st, 2009 at 10:12 pm
We need to get DHB involved, just let him run a reverse or throw him a screen pass, so he’ll get the opportunity to show up his speed. We drafted this kid in the 1st round, so put the ball in his hands. They could even let him return some punts or kicks, just give him the ball.
October 1st, 2009 at 10:14 pm
No spit these recievers act as if they need the ball hand delivered to their gut.
October 1st, 2009 at 10:18 pm
WTF! I’m just hoping that the interviewer misinterpreted Jacarcus because of his southern drawl and all. If not, all i can say is “oh boy”!
Jacarcus needs to get more accurate. I mean we all have seen the open guys he has missed throughout the first three regular season games. I’ll give him a few drops and missed routes, but his completion percentage is absolutely ridiculous. The fans I know that have encountered Russell at locations randomly have said the same thing, “dumb as rocks.” You can’t be brainless in the NFL. He has shown some poise at times and needs to step it up or sit it down, bottomline.
October 1st, 2009 at 10:45 pm
The running game is not working because the FACT is our Oline is not opening holes. Occasionally, we get a nice hole opened, but collectively, Pears, Morris, Carlisle, and Green are NOT getting it done. It was detailed pretty well today on NFL play book.
I’m going to take a different angle. So what we gave up 2 early picks?!?!?! 10-0 early in the 1st qtr should not mean game over!
You really need to take a look at the the ineffective run game in the Denver game. You can try and blame the passing game if you want, but Denver stopped our running game with 6 and 7 man fronts. That should NOT happen. We have not faced a single 8 man front this year. It is nothing but a myth that we have a solid Oline. Outside of Henderson and Gallery, our line is NOT consistent.
The ONE area that Cable was so good at is really suffering since his promotion.
October 1st, 2009 at 10:47 pm
And as far as the passing game goes, why doesn’t JRuss help his young receivers by calling an audible to a quick slant, WR screen, or reverse.
October 1st, 2009 at 10:49 pm
Since Jamarcus says he doesn’t get too excited and says he’s on an even keel then I guess Mr. Cool won’t mind being called Ja(fill in the blank) till he wins something. I wish JaBiggest Loser the best of luck… I’m so glad we have two road games so I don’t have to deal with leaving at halftime!!!
October 1st, 2009 at 10:53 pm
Btw… What has Chaz proved since being in the NFL? What makes him a savior? I know his reputation precedes him as often-injured college player. So what, he had the best camp??? So did DMC! And his fumbulitis has followed him to the pro’s. I am losing faith in this team as well. As fans, I believe we put way too much stock onto this unproven group of football players. Get mad all you want, there is so much faith in this team by it’s fans that everyone else recognizes how lousy this team is except for us! Raiders said “Denver is an NFL team.” so what? So were the chiefs and the bolts! So don’t get mad if the fans boo and talk smack… The team deserves it in so many ways. Atleast be competitive…. Show proof of productivity so I can have reasons to defend you! I love the underdog and that’s why I love the raiders.
October 1st, 2009 at 11:00 pm
fellas fellas fellas… I’m hear to clarify one thing that we all need to unite on: a nickname for our qb. Everyone seems to have their own, but it’s time to unite. what are we going with? drum roll please… The Big Deuce! Yes, it’s perfect. And we get to bring back all the potty humor that’s been missing since Turd-ell Sands was shown the door. PASS IT ON.
October 1st, 2009 at 11:07 pm
Us fans deserve more then this… We can talk all the strategy, draft strategies, trades before the deadline, offseason moves which more then most of the time are great ideas but Al Davis won’t listen… So these dreams that we have as fans simply go down the drain so Al davis’s can continue to live his dream! It’s ridiculous how I’ve seen this team come from contender to pretender in a matter of years… It’s down right depressing, I’ve commited countless hours talking, chatting, searching, tweeting, blogging, typing about the raiders it has taking time from my family. I now can kind of understand my girlfriend when she asks why I waste my time with the raiders. I always tell her “it’s my team”.
October 1st, 2009 at 11:14 pm
Have a hard time seeing the Raiders win this week, though — for what it’s worth — no harder than Week 16 last season when they faced the Texans.
Despite JaMarcus’ accuracy issues, I will give him credit for at least not causing turnovers. I don’t believe he’s lost a fumble and I can honestly say all 4 INTS weren’t his fault:
1. Murphy runs a sloppy route and fails to go after the ball aggressively, allowing Q Jammer to sneak up and take it away. Should have been a pretty big gain to inside the opponent’s 10 on the opening drive of the season.
2. Hail Mary at the end of the SD game.
3. DHB falls down on his route on what looked like a damn good throw by JaMarcus that should’ve gone for a big gain. It was a play on which defensive pass interference is called at least 50% of the time.
4. DHB bumps into a defender coming out of his break on a crossing pattern. JaMarcus’ throw anticipates DHB making a clean break and would’ve been right on target without the contact. It wasn’t pass interference, just a tough break on a timing route.
JaMarcus’ accuracy is definitely poor right now and his staring down of intended receivers is just atrocious. But he is still working with two rookie WRs which is never easy for any QB (which is why I can’t remember another team in recent NFL history entering a season with 2 rookie WRs). It’s too easy to blame it all on JaMarcus. A lot of the trouble is not all on him, though he obviously deserves much of the blame too.
Gut feeling: McFadden goes berserk on Houston this week. Lackluster run D, DMC will have the fire to blow up after a terrible effort which has fans and media alike murmuring the “B” word in sizing up the 2nd-year back’s career. DMC still has immense talent and the fuse has been lit. Throw a poor Run D into the mix and I can definitely see a career day for McFadden this Sunday.
October 1st, 2009 at 11:15 pm
# raiderrej Says:
October 1st, 2009 at 10:49 pm
I’m so glad we have two road games so I don’t have to deal with leaving at halftime!!!
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rej, I might have to agree with your girlfriend here. If you are leaving games at halftime, even tho the Raider took the the prior two weeks in a row in the last minutes, and you have no faith in the team, maybe it is time to pick up a new pastime.
October 1st, 2009 at 11:31 pm
I haven’t left at the half this year but I did for half the games last year and we left at the 3rd last week… Though I do have other favorite sports, the raiders have been my team. I know I’m 30 years young. But the day I fell in love with this sport is the same day I fell in love with raiders… It amazes me to see that there are fans that post from the Flores and Madden years and those guys I respect so much because they’ve hung in there thru the years up and down. And I want to be that type of fan, so I don’t thin I’ll ever not like the raider ya know, it’s just been very frustrating
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:13 am
hey guys I need spome help on my fantasy who should I start? you guys think jason campbell vs. tampa or brett favre vs. gb who has the better game?
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:44 am
campbell had 240 yards and 2 tds against the lions. That was good for 25 points in my league (highest score on my team) and I had him on the bench.
I think campbell will have a good game against the bucs.
I don’t know what favre has been doing this season other than the pass last week.
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:48 am
Tampa is giving up over 400 yards a game on d and 245 yards a game passing and only has 1 td.
Packers are giving up 100 yards per game less than Tampa and has 7 ints. favre is known to throw a few of those as well.
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:58 am
Sorry, it was 340 yards against the lions.
October 2nd, 2009 at 1:04 am
Raiders will win on Sunday. I dont know the score and I dont know how I just know they will win. But it WILL be Ugly.
October 2nd, 2009 at 1:17 am
Lets stop bashing Russele its a team effort they win like a team and lose like a team , the defense was flat from start to end , 3 fumbles ,and the D-line took a vaction so it everbody fault!!!!!!!!!!!
October 2nd, 2009 at 1:42 am
jc it is then thanks guys. and yea from looking at the video on nfl.com our offensive line got man handled also its ridiculous how bad our whole team played sunday.
October 2nd, 2009 at 3:36 am
Good Morning Nation.
Our D is playing good, but our offense is sorry! We can’t run, or pass! The Oline played well, and so did the Dline. The few players I expected to to do great things are not doing much:
JR
DMC
Miller ( due to lack of WR plays)
Chaz (injury)
JLH
2 rookie WRs!!!! How is that going to help our young and still learning QB?! How?????
October 2nd, 2009 at 3:46 am
Good Morning NATION!!! Nice Very Nice
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Silver-n-Smac Says:
October 1st, 2009 at 9:30 pm
KoolKell & Einstein:
While you to are in the middle of your catfight, let me ask you both this, since you both seem to hate Al Davis:
Whenever Al is no longer with us (hopefully not any time soon) don’t you think the Raiders completely lose all the aura, mystique, uniqueness, us-against-the-world image that is his very essence?
I mean, I don’t know about you, but, those are all the reasons I became a Raider fan in the first place. If it was only about wins/losses, then hell- we could all choose from any number of teams.
But, those are the things that made the Raiders different. They are the things that made the Raiders the Raiders!
And I don’t care what anyone says. When Al is gone, those things are ALL gone.
And frankly, I think the Raiders will become just another team.
And to me, that’s boring. Teams will win and teams will lose. But, being a fan of the Raiders made us different.
And I don’t want that to EVER end. But, it will when Al is gone. And that will suck. You guys may get your wish, but, at that point, you may as well root for any of the 32 teams because there won’t be anything different about this one.
October 2nd, 2009 at 3:56 am
I like Mr. Davis. I can’t imagine the Raiders without him. He is the Raiders!
October 2nd, 2009 at 4:05 am
Bonging Hard this Morning!
I’m the Bong King, and I can smoke anything. ( as long as it’s green or brown)
October 2nd, 2009 at 4:10 am
tear it up Raider O!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 2nd, 2009 at 4:16 am
Yep O it has been a wonderful harvest!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 2nd, 2009 at 4:19 am
4eva!!
What’s up dude?
It’s almost 420, Smoking purple, and it’s calm outside! I love it! Not asingle noise except some water bubling.
October 2nd, 2009 at 4:24 am
What’s up with our offense? What are they doing?
We all know JR is young and still learning, so you help him by having 2 Rookie WRs!
I don’t understand! What’s up with Walker? Cut him or let him play.
October 2nd, 2009 at 4:25 am
seems loke we are in a hazy-funk…but this week we come out of it!!!
Raiders-28
texanz-17
October 2nd, 2009 at 4:26 am
but with-out that A-1 education it can fall 2 pieces tomorrow.You got beautiful family who loves you…wish I did.I mean my daughter loves me but I have no wife…seems kinda empty,imo
October 2nd, 2009 at 4:28 am
Harvest!! Hunting! BBQing!! And a young hot girlfriend ( who works).
Ummmm
I wanna be like you.
October 2nd, 2009 at 4:34 am
its ok O but I envy you also…not really envy just very happy 4 you and all the support you recieve
October 2nd, 2009 at 4:34 am
I don’t know 4eva. I was thinking our lines were going to be the problems of this team, but other than Green they all played well. Even Green didn’t play that bad. The players I thought had a chance to play well were the weapons on offense, and so far we don’t have weapons. Other than Bush & Miller, there has been no offense. We are sorry on offense. Our Dline and DBs have been playing well, but our LBs were sorry!
October 2nd, 2009 at 4:35 am
man this site
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repost
but with-out that A-1 education it can fall 2 pieces tomorrow.You got beautiful family who loves you…wish I did.I mean my daughter loves me but I have no wife…seems kinda empty,imo
October 2nd, 2009 at 4:37 am
thats b/c we are starting 2 WR rookies,a 2nd year QB,RB,and our best lineman has a broken leg OH WELL
wax-on
wax off
October 2nd, 2009 at 4:41 am
Appreciate IT when you have it, some don’t have it, other have lost it, and most only dream about it.
October 2nd, 2009 at 4:45 am
So very true my friend Raider O
October 2nd, 2009 at 4:47 am
well all in all I guess I cant complain
October 2nd, 2009 at 4:49 am
and then do it all again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 2nd, 2009 at 4:51 am
Boy you crazy!!
Having the kids without the wife is the best part! Boy, what’s wrong with you?
October 2nd, 2009 at 4:54 am
Have the kids with a nice hot young wife, after 10 – 20 years get a divorce, keep the kids, and get a hot girlfriend who works!
I love it!
October 2nd, 2009 at 4:58 am
I almost forgot: always move to the other side of the country. If you can, move to a diff a country!
October 2nd, 2009 at 5:03 am
Do what again? Get married!! What do you have in that pipe?
Never again to get married! Really, what’s wrong with you? You have a house, a family ( your daugther, brother, sister, etc…), and a girlffriend. STOP THERE!!!! Don’t do anymore!! Us dumb humans we always try to improve, don’t, and stop there.
October 2nd, 2009 at 5:07 am
Being married is just a paper, that legaly F’s you financially! You make a family of the people around you.
Legalize it!!
October 2nd, 2009 at 5:11 am
Love is like oxygen
you get too much
you get too high
not enough
and youre gonna die
October 2nd, 2009 at 5:12 am
Love is overrated!
October 2nd, 2009 at 5:18 am
Love is mostly about CARED FOR and NEEDED.
We confuse bumping uglies with love and thats our first mistake. Our second is expecting women feel the same way about love as we do.
For instance if Jerrymac cared for us he would fix his piece of crap blog but Jerry just wants to ink us like all the other abusers out there.
October 2nd, 2009 at 5:22 am
My first thought upon seeing a woman is “would I bed her”.
When it should be, “would she take care of me, look after me, clean for me, bake me pie?
But all I think about is the size of her jamammeries.
October 2nd, 2009 at 5:22 am
Now girls are conditioned to be dogs just like men. You can think the 60’s and womens lib. They are encouraged to drink like men, fight like men, curse like men and have sex like men.
Good luck finding a lady there.
What man has to do is take back the throne that the progressives stripped him of.
October 2nd, 2009 at 5:23 am
What’s is love?
We are humans, and most of us enjoy being around others like us. We also need stability, so we find people that we think make good partners.
Love is very overrated, especially in the west, and that why we have a high divorce rate. IMO
October 2nd, 2009 at 5:32 am
LMAO @ 168
October 2nd, 2009 at 5:34 am
We cant take back the throne by force or violence.
Apathy will win the day. When we learn to stop being male attention whores and ignore female attention whores, they will go back to being rare jewels.
Its a part of a man & womens very being to take care of each other and sacrifice for each other.
We have turned it into what can you do for me today.
October 2nd, 2009 at 5:43 am
I quit dating ten years when I got custody of my son.
It took two years and the women I was with had two kids of her own who I treated very well. She could not bring herself to do the same for my son so I dumped her.
Then I was too busy making money and being full time dad to mess with women. Now my sone old enough. I dont care to put up with the crap that goes with the bumping uglies. So I dont bump uglies and I act like I could care less about them.
Of course now I am branded as weirdo, homo, woman hater, etc.
But I dont care because I am in full control and they yearn for that, even if they wont admit it.
October 2nd, 2009 at 5:51 am
I didnt mean to stop the Raider talk
Raiders 31 Boots 13
October 2nd, 2009 at 5:59 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Happy Friday everyone!!!
October 2nd, 2009 at 6:02 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S. JUST WIN PLEASE…
October 2nd, 2009 at 6:08 am
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October 2nd, 2009 at 6:08 am
LOL Dirt Lot!!!
Change our slogan to “Please Win, Baby!!!”
October 2nd, 2009 at 6:18 am
Wow, just realized (and I didn’t want to scroll too far up) that LOVE was the topic in here. Hey, better than politics, which is usually the case!!!
October 2nd, 2009 at 6:24 am
I HAD A WIFE 4 AWHILE,HER HUSBAND CAME AND GOT HER FINALY..
October 2nd, 2009 at 6:32 am
WILL BE 4 GAMES IN AFTER THIS WEEK. 1 QTR OF THE SEASOS.CAN NOT AFFORD TO FALL 2 FAR BACK EVEN IN AFC WEST.RAIDER’S NEED TO PROOVE TO THEMSELF’S MORE THAN ANYONE THEY CAN WIN BALLGAME’S IMO.
October 2nd, 2009 at 6:33 am
LMAO!!!
So what do you guys think? Somethings gotta give!!! What Raider team will show up on Sunday? The one that played their hearts out on Monday night, or the ones that showed up the past two weeks?
October 2nd, 2009 at 6:43 am
Yup, I agree and the main person that has to step up is Russell. Its time for him to be the field general, the main leader on this team!!!
October 2nd, 2009 at 7:04 am
4eva and O’s hazed-induced convo at 4 am is why this place is so great…..
October 2nd, 2009 at 7:12 am
And the Texans are very beatable, the Jags beat them and they won’t win more than 6 games this year, with their best skill going against our best (WR vs. DB).
After all my hate-filled comments this week, I am back on the kool-aid and I think we will get a couple of turnovers in the first half and lead from start to finish.
Raiders 24 Texans 13.
October 2nd, 2009 at 7:16 am
Please continue to talke about Raider Football. I think some guys are giving themselves left hand jobs while they type with their right hand in a failed atttempt to talk about love, women, being lonely, and dorkism!
October 2nd, 2009 at 7:19 am
I think RUssel and the whole team has to step up. Including our play calling. To have so many new coaches our formations still look the same as last year. No blitz on defense, no passing attack on offense. Everyone in the league knows we are running off tackle and McFumbles is still holding the ball loose game after game. Could someone please get Tiki Barber to help this guy.
October 2nd, 2009 at 7:23 am
In reality, this Texans game may be our EASIEST (for lack of a better word) game so far in this young season.
Denver and SD will both probably have a better record than the Texans come year end, plus they are division rivals. KC isn’t very good, but again division foe, and KC is a much tougher place to play than Houston. Plus the KC trip was our first time playing outside of the Pacific time-zone this year.
Add the confidence the team should have knowing they whupped this same team 10 months ago, so have them playing confidantly.
That’s it I have talked myself into it, this weekend I will wager on the Raiders (something I never do), but I will take the 9.5 points.
Where are you MaddenRaider, I’m betting on the Raiders and I pick winners remember??
October 2nd, 2009 at 7:24 am
all i want…
is effort… real effort…
play like you mean it… play like you have no intention to lose…
no juevos, no ninos…
oh, and pull Jamasaurus after 8 passes if he is under .500 on his completions…
October 2nd, 2009 at 7:46 am
Having a tough time getting excited about the game this week. After being up for the Denver game, afterward it felt like a waste of 3 hours on a Sunday.
One 48 yard field goal all game long was the only Raiders scoring.
Hanging the offensensive hopes on the mid season return of a guy with 15 career catches does not seem too exciting either.
October 2nd, 2009 at 7:57 am
How about a trade of JaMarcus for Leinart?
October 2nd, 2009 at 8:01 am
Great! Now Boomer the Bunegels suck Esiason is getting in on the Jamarcus slap down.
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2009/10/boomer-esiason-says-jamarcus-russell-is-not-ready-raiders-hurting-themselves-starting-him/1
October 2nd, 2009 at 8:07 am
CJ Legend 34 Says:
October 2nd, 2009 at 8:01 am
Great! Now Boomer the Bunegels suck Esiason is getting in on the Jamarcus slap down.
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2009/10/boomer-esiason-says-jamarcus-russell-is-not-ready-raiders-hurting-themselves-starting-him/1
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starting Russell is not hurting us…
refusing to bench his fat ___ is what’s hurting us…
even Elway was shown the bench early in his career…
benching a player is a legitimate method of communicating displeasure… and if that player refuses to respond… then you know you have wasted your time…
that’s when you get someone new on a permanent basis…
October 2nd, 2009 at 8:09 am
ExLA,
anyone sounds better than Russell right now and Leinart had some moments, albeit with the best WR tandem in the league, so i would be all for it but the Cards aren’t stupid enough to go with that.
October 2nd, 2009 at 8:11 am
Deep within the bowels of the Legion of Doom (Oakland Raiders Headquarters – Alameda, CA), The Supreme Commander of the Silver & Black has summoned the Core of his army.
These warriors will bey key in vanquishing the Texans of Houston on the field of battle.
Al: Alright gentlemen – and, er, JaMarcus, I’ve brought you here to the office to discuss our strategy. Now, as we’re waiting on the visual aid portion of the -
Russell (food in his mouth): Mr. Davis -
Al: Raise your hand, JaMarcus – remember?
Russell sheepishly raises his hand.
Al: (sigh) Yes, JaMarcus?
Russell: Can I be eccused? I hafta go to va bafroom.
Al: What did that oaf say? Is that a full rack of ribs?
Nnamndi: I think he said we’re heading for disaster and that the building needs to be burned to the ground and rebuilt. With new management, of course.
Al: How does 14 mil sound?
Nnamndi: Sounds like we’re on the verge of turning this thing around.
Al: That’s what I thought. JaMarcus, go do whatever you want. Preparation isn’t your thing anyway. Herrera has some scantily clad girls with loose morals waiting for you in the lobby.
Russell: Hell yeah! Bye bye guys, see you Sunday!
DHB: OK, now I know you paid that guy a lot of money, but he’s doing nothing out there!
Everyone present looks square at DHB with one eyebrow raised.
DHB: Fine, point taken, but I really think we should give Bruce a chance. Or maybe Southwick.
Al:(Spits up juice) The Mormon kid? What was his 40?
Morrison: I’ve stood by and watched this travesty long enough – something must be said and something must be done, Mr. Davis! WHEN are you going to replace the plasma screens in the lockeroom with LCD?! Don’t you know they have 40% longer shelf life and better picture quality? Damn!
McFadden: Yeah, it’s getting to where we can’t even play Madden before the game, especially with “Supersize me” Mario watching all those soap operas of his. And where are all the damn white girls?
Al: Silence, minions! Herrera!!
John Herrera comes bursting through the door on command, wheeling an overhead projector and pink box.
Herrera: Where’s JaMarcus? It’s 4 PM doughut call.
Al: Which means I’m overdue for my nap, dolts! That reminds me – Herrera! You have Mr. Snuggles don’t you?
Herrera: Waiting for you, Mr. Davis.
October 2nd, 2009 at 8:13 am
lots of great nicknames for JaMarcus Russell the past 2 blogs … which one takes the cake (pun intended)?
cast your vote now !!!
RR: jawalrus, jabutterball
bsj: janormous
909: jameatloaf, jawhale. jadouble-double,
plunkett: jabuffalo, jatacotime
LA to TheBay: JaLargest, JaMarshmallow Truffle
Vegas: offthemarcus, Jamammal
UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER: japotroast
Headbutt: Jagantor, Jacrapwrap
Dakota: Jamassive, Jadumpling soup, Japizzathehut
Einstein: JaMbalaya, jachurro
FL Pete: Jamasaurus
rej: jabigbutt, jawhopper, jabiggest loser
brodeur: jabustus
ottocrat: jabeeotch
Texguy: jabigmac
local13: jajudes
johnnylama: jamoby dick
jmeds: jacarcus
shipit2daddy: The Big Deuce
October 2nd, 2009 at 8:15 am
LA2BAY,
that was hilarious LOL HAHAHAHA!!!!!!
October 2nd, 2009 at 8:17 am
it has to be Jabiggest loser lol.
October 2nd, 2009 at 8:23 am
LOL ..
Did 4eva just “nod off” or something? All of a sudden O was talking to himself.
LMFAO!
You high bastards!
October 2nd, 2009 at 8:24 am
RRS, I like JaCarcass…. And you Should know that Lamar Odom calls him JaMoundsBar
LA, Southwick ran a 4.5 in flip flops and long underwear (thx for the laughs).
October 2nd, 2009 at 8:24 am
I vote for Jamarshmallow Truffle. Great use of both names.
And props to Rockstar for keeping the list.
October 2nd, 2009 at 8:26 am
JaMoby Dick
October 2nd, 2009 at 8:26 am
I also like JaGordo. most cali raider fans wouldn’t expect that one coming from a redneck like me
October 2nd, 2009 at 8:27 am
Where the nicknames for the BS Oline play???
RediWhip
October 2nd, 2009 at 8:27 am
how about JaFett?
I took 4 years of German in high school …
October 2nd, 2009 at 8:29 am
All classic, but…
My Vote:
johnnylama: jamoby dick
October 2nd, 2009 at 8:30 am
Where the nicknames for the BS Oline play?
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ZBS = Zone Blocking Sieve
And how about Darren McFelldown…
October 2nd, 2009 at 8:31 am
Are we really going to be subjected to another day of Junior High with all the name calling? Are you REALLY trying to pump that up this morning? Cmon!
Where the nicknames for the BS Oline play?
Where’s Cable’s nicknames?
How about a name for the defense that came out and gave up the game clinching TD right out of the half?
Anything other than McFumble?
October 2nd, 2009 at 8:34 am
JaChunky, JaBeergut, JaBelly, JaObese, JaPorky, JaTubby …
any keepers there?
October 2nd, 2009 at 8:34 am
as much as i like my Jamasaurus…
my favorite is: jmeds: Jacarcus
October 2nd, 2009 at 8:37 am
Darren was McSkinny last year
Nickname for the O-line: The first and 20’s.
It’s all laughs today, but I have confidence in a good competitive game on Sunday, and if we win the turnover battle, a big if, they can win. I’m putting my money on it.
October 2nd, 2009 at 8:38 am
J,
I can’t disagree with most of what you are saying if not all of it. The play-calling was awful in general, especially when you consider the struggles of Russell. 4 passes in the first 5 plays? Than two runs which get 15 yards and than another pass on 1st and 10??? Seriously.
I do think on the first pick, Jamarcus should have dumped it down to Bush, rather than forcing it down field to DHB. DHB did him no favors, neither did the ref, but too risky of a play-call (1st) and decision by the QB (2nd). Dump it to Bush, if he just falls forward it is 3rd and 7, if he breaks a tackle or drags him a little we are looking at 3rd and 3.
Oh well, maybe lesson learned hopefully.
October 2nd, 2009 at 8:39 am
Jamarcus was not THE problem on Sunday.
The first pick had 2 guys in the pattern, with Bush releasing late, and DHB falling down. Shouldn’t have thrown it you say? Ok, maybe he should have taken a sack in the end zone or taken an intentional grounding for throwing it away in the end zone?
2nd pick should have been a flag. Undisputed. Really, the play should not have been called coming off a 12 yard burst by Bush out of the 2 TE set. Why even call that shotgun 3 WR play on 1st and 10?
Other than that, Lawton dropped a pass, and Miller’s catch was overturned. NO OTHER MISSES IN A 13-3 GAME AT HOME!
McFadden’s fumble’s KILLED us in this game, and the DEFENSE not being prepared KILLED US! Marhshall repeatedly being checked by MORRISON?!?!?
FOOLING yourselves BIG TIME if you think Russell has cost us 2 wins. Completely taking the easy route with that excuse and you are going to be MORE pissed off when Gradkowski comes in and things get worse.
October 2nd, 2009 at 8:40 am
Note to equipment manager: If your best RB is pigeon toed, make sure his shoes aren’t five sizes too big.
October 2nd, 2009 at 8:40 am
updated scores by the minute:
johnnylama: 2
LA to TheBay: 1
jmeds: 1
rej: 1
10:30am – Central
October 2nd, 2009 at 8:42 am
I’d like to submit my entry….JaMammoth
October 2nd, 2009 at 8:42 am
JaLardazz
October 2nd, 2009 at 8:44 am
In Polynesian, Satele means “matador”.
Question, did Pears play well enough to start pushing Carlisle or Green to the bench?
October 2nd, 2009 at 8:44 am
Well …
Let me go toke a fat one so I can join the party, LOL!
1st and 20’s ???? LMFAO!
McFellDown??
Too funny!
This is going to be a long day! Sunday can’t get here fast enough.
October 2nd, 2009 at 8:45 am
JaMastodon?
October 2nd, 2009 at 8:46 am
updated scores by the minute:
johnnylama: 2
LA to TheBay: 1
jmeds: 2
rej: 1
10:36am – Central
October 2nd, 2009 at 8:48 am
No olympics for Chitown…
October 2nd, 2009 at 8:51 am
BSJ & Big Banana: thank you for your entries!
they have been submitted and will be included in the next poll …
keep’em coming if you like
October 2nd, 2009 at 8:51 am
BSJ – who won the bid for the olympics?
October 2nd, 2009 at 8:53 am
Dunno yet.
October 2nd, 2009 at 8:55 am
I agree Vegas, to an extent.
Russell is in the end zone, and the checkdown to Bush developed late.
If you want to keep it real, like Irvin said, DHB has GOT to make that catch. It was NOT double coverage as Dawkins was 5 yds behind the play. Champ Bailey was not on DHB, it was a scrub S. Your 6′2, 215 lb, 40 in vertical, NUMBER 7 PICK in the draft has GOT to make that play ONE ON ONE WITH A SCRUB S. Instead, we get the classic fall down.
Sometimes I think we are cursed man! Any other team, that’s a successful play.
October 2nd, 2009 at 8:56 am
Jhill,
You’re right, it’s a team effort with coaching to win and a team effort with coaching to lose.
Morrison wasn’t just on Marshall, he was on any slot receiver all day. All they had to do was run a crossing route in front of him and it was an easy catch.
Also, pass that…
October 2nd, 2009 at 8:57 am
Do you know that Chitown is out of it or is that just your opinion?
I’m all for being patriotic but I think it should go to Madrid. Incredible city!
October 2nd, 2009 at 8:59 am
Rocker,
Please share what you know about the DT cut by the Steelers. Interested in hearing a bit about him and why he would be a good pick up. Thanks.
October 2nd, 2009 at 9:00 am
CNN has a breaking news alert that Chicago is out. Nothing more.
October 2nd, 2009 at 9:02 am
Panthers just cut DT Ra’Shon Harris. He was a rookie 6th round pick of the Steelers (3-4 defense) in April.
Listed at 6′5″ 321 lbs. went to college at Oregon
OAKlifer: got any insider info?
would make a great addition to our practice squad imo.
Raiders aren’t the only team to cut a 6th rounder! at least we didn’t have to pay Sulak!
October 2nd, 2009 at 9:02 am
Jhill: Andre Goodman was covering DHB on that play, not a scrub safety. Goodman is a solid corner. Had 5 picks and 19 passes defensed last year for the Miami playoff team.
Renaldo Hill also had 3 picks and 75 tackles for the Fins last year. not too shabby. I remember when he played for us in 2005. wasn’t a scrub by any means
we all know who Champ Bailey & Brian Dawkins are …
any other “pie” you want to throw at the wall to see if it sticks?
Blaming a guy for getting tripped is like blaming a guy for getting injured. NEWSFLASH: they can’t help it. it’s not their choice!
October 2nd, 2009 at 9:03 am
Let’s see, if I was one of the Raider WRs, my name for Russell would be….
JaMissedUs
October 2nd, 2009 at 9:03 am
JHill,
Your right, if he even goes up for the ball and doesn’t catch it, it most likely falls incomplete.
The guy was supposed to be an iffy-route runner with suspect hands, but great speed and great jump and catch skills. Haven’t seen it yet.
October 2nd, 2009 at 9:04 am
jhill, good points dude.
I think you made a fair analysis there.
It is beyond me why we have not run the ball out of any two TE sets. We have not even got the tightends involved in our offense. Myers can catch the ball. Cable’s play calling is not up to par for the talent on our team.
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jhill Says:
October 2nd, 2009 at 8:39 am
Jamarcus was not THE problem on Sunday.
The first pick had 2 guys in the pattern, with Bush releasing late, and DHB falling down. Shouldn’t have thrown it you say? Ok, maybe he should have taken a sack in the end zone or taken an intentional grounding for throwing it away in the end zone?
2nd pick should have been a flag. Undisputed. Really, the play should not have been called coming off a 12 yard burst by Bush out of the 2 TE set. Why even call that shotgun 3 WR play on 1st and 10?
Other than that, Lawton dropped a pass, and Miller’s catch was overturned. NO OTHER MISSES IN A 13-3 GAME AT HOME!
McFadden’s fumble’s KILLED us in this game, and the DEFENSE not being prepared KILLED US! Marhshall repeatedly being checked by MORRISON?!?!?
FOOLING yourselves BIG TIME if you think Russell has cost us 2 wins. Completely taking the easy route with that excuse and you are going to be MORE pissed off when Gradkowski comes in and things get worse.
October 2nd, 2009 at 9:05 am
No Olympics for Chicago, they can go back to hitting each other over the heads with giant boards now.
October 2nd, 2009 at 9:07 am
They are not playing to the teams strengths. DHB ran reverses in college as well. He has not had one in three games. What a great way to get a rookie the ball and let him get use to making plays. No WR screens no clear outs.
Just the same old predictable AL Davis vertical Bull $#!T!!!!
October 2nd, 2009 at 9:15 am
What, RRS ???
Pie, my arse !!!!
Are you now saying he was triple covered?
DHB was one on one with a gawd damn S and went down on the play. There was another guy but he was 5 yards off the play. Just because a guy is in your screen shot does not mean he was in on the play. CMon!
You don’t want to blame DHB for getting tangled up, but you want to rip the QB who was tagged for the INT BECAUSE of DHB falling down? LMFAO!
October 2nd, 2009 at 9:16 am
War room report -
Has electrifying speed and quickness…has the capabilities to take every play the distance and will provide whatever team selects him with explosiveness that they may currently lack…he possesses a unique combo of size and speed that is rarely seen—think Roddy White as a comparison…a versatile wide receiver prospect that can stretch the defense, go across the middle, and can be a factor in the red zone…plays with an edge at the WR position, gets after it in blocking the oppositions secondary down field…possibly has more potential than ANY other wide receiver in the 2009 NFL Draft…
Mocking the draft –
Heyward-Bey is probably the best vertical threat among the wide receivers in this class. Easily breaks press coverage. He uses his strength to be beat the jam and break away from defenders. At times, he can make difficult catches look easy. Tall with long arms. Solid after the catch setting up his blockers. Very good leaper and knows how to reach the ball at the high point.
October 2nd, 2009 at 9:20 am
Jamarcus needs some realiable weapons to throw to not named ZMiler. Starting 2 rookie WRs is virtually unheard on in the NFL.
October 2nd, 2009 at 9:21 am
NFL house –
Darrius is an explosive receiver who is a threat to score anytime he touches the ball. At 6-3, 206, he has good size and is very fast and once he get a step on the defender, more often than not he will score. This is mostly thanks to his great elusiveness and ability to run with the ball. He also has a 40 inch vertical to go along with 4.3 forty jets, which allows him to go up and get the ball when one will think there is no way he will get it. Darius bread and butter is his speed and it allow him to stretch the field and beat the best of the best DB in the country. He also does a good job keeping the ball away from his body when making receptions. He also gets off the ball well, and has great body control.
Walter football –
Very good size with good muscle definition … Elite timed speed that translates well in games … Explosive … Deadly after the catch and a home-run hitter … Elusive in the open field and is a slippery athlete … Ridiculously high upside.
October 2nd, 2009 at 9:24 am
All right folks, off to a sales training meeting and than the DMV. Not excited at all.
October 2nd, 2009 at 9:24 am
The Dark One, Supreme Commander of the Silver & Black has dismissed the Core of his army and has invited his newest warrior, Richard Seymour Losses….
Al: Listen, Richard, I know you hate being here, and I appreciate what you’ve been doing by lying to the media, saying you’re a Raider and all. Really – from the bottom of my tiny black heart – thank you.
Seymour: Listen, old man I’m trying to get paid. My family won’t even come out here because they heard all the stories.
Al: Of crime, corruption, and urban decay? Yes, I must admit I’ve watched this once-proud city descend into madness. Transformed from a depressing sh*thole — to an even more depressing sh*thole. Why do you think I’d tried to move the team to South Central?
Seymour: No, no – I mean the stories of you hiring idiot coaches, giving these scrubs more money than their worth, letting them sniff cocaine off of $5,000-a-night hooker t*tties from the backs of Rolls Royces and loafing all over the field come Sunday.
Al (saddened): So you want out?
Seymour: Hell no, mother f*cker, I want IN! My wife is 3,000 miles away I wanna get my drink on and my smoke on and get “Little Richard” wet.
Al: That’s the kind of commitment to excellence I’m interested in! Welcome aboard Richard!
October 2nd, 2009 at 9:38 am
its amazing that some of you are blaming a rookie WR because an older,experienced vet. came in and tripped him.that’s things that happen to rookies,being victimized by vet. tricks.imo,it was done intentionally and if had happened to an vet. WR it might have been called PI. actually no blame should be put on the WR or the QB for the play-sh!t happens.
October 2nd, 2009 at 9:38 am
You don’t want to blame DHB for getting tangled up, but you want to rip the QB who was tagged for the INT BECAUSE of DHB falling down?
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yes I’m blaming Russell because DHB was covered. that ball never should have been thrown. throw the ball away or check down. don’t lock on to a WR, think to yourself “he’s covered” and just chuck it to him anyways.
JR is as dumb as a box of rocks. This team doesn’t have a chance at 8-8 with him behind center this year or next year. IN A WEAK DIVISION! write that down. remember who said it.
October 2nd, 2009 at 9:41 am
those are things that happen-correction.
October 2nd, 2009 at 9:44 am
RR
Just because the announcers claim he is only looking at 1 WR doesn’t mean he is. DHB could/would have been open had he not got picked off his route.
October 2nd, 2009 at 9:45 am
“yes I’m blaming Russell because DHB was covered. that ball never should have been thrown. throw the ball away or check down. don’t lock on to a WR, think to yourself “he’s covered” and just chuck it to him anyways.”
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Either of those balls were catchable. Placement between the corner and safety is key, and Russell did that.
First one, DHB fell down on minimal contact.
Second one, DHB makes some kind of non-football move to the ball. Like he was tracking it and was waving ‘bye bye’ to it rather than attempting to catch, although it was overthrown.
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“JR is as dumb as a box of rocks. This team doesn’t have a chance at 8-8 with him behind center this year or next year. IN A WEAK DIVISION! write that down. remember who said it.”
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He’s not getting any help this year. Saying we won’t go 8-8 is something I can agree with, but not going 8-8 ONLY because of Russell I think is way off, if that’s what you were trying to say.
October 2nd, 2009 at 9:46 am
a healthy Chaz Schilens wouldn’t have made the play all of you guys are expecting DHB to make!
Terrell Owens had Jeff Garcia in his prime, Donovan McNabb & Tony Romo. Now he’s got Trent Edwards.
you guys think he’ll put up Pro Bowl stats this year with a subpar QB? I don’t think so. and Trent Edwards is better than JaMarcus!
October 2nd, 2009 at 9:47 am
No Chicago Olympics?
Another failed Obama adventure.
October 2nd, 2009 at 9:49 am
LA-actually on the second one DHB was hooked by a DB and thrown off his route.he didn’t make some weird move,the DB made contact.it was PI but as usual it wasn’t called against us.
RR-i find it interesting that many on here who would admit that it usually takes rookie WRs 2-3 years to get adjusted to the NFL are throwing DHB under the bus after 3 games even though he is playing with the worst preforming QB in the NFL.
October 2nd, 2009 at 9:50 am
“1st one you say “fell down” when in reality he got tripped up. most Raider fans were even waiting for a PI call from the refs”
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I said there was minimal contact. He went down hoping for a flag rather than making the catch. Or he wasn’t able to make a real effort, which is more troubling.
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“2nd one you admit was overthrown, but DHB should have caught it anyways?”
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Not overthrown to the point where he couln’t catch it. He just looked out of place. WRs catch balls all the time that aren’t right in the breadbasket. It’s their job.
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“and how do you explain his other 42 incompletions this season? were those all on the rookie WR’s as well?”
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Oh, hell no, he’s been either stinking it up or being asked to force it deep. I also think that Murphy is not the problem, so “rookie WR” is the problem, not “WRs.”
October 2nd, 2009 at 9:50 am
By end of this season ESPN will be touting JR as the 2nd coming of Brett Favre and DHB as the new Moss.
Just wait.
Oh and Oakland moves to 2-2 with a 31-17 win.
October 2nd, 2009 at 9:51 am
LA to TheBay :
1st one you say “fell down” when in reality he got tripped up. most Raider fans were even waiting for a PI call from the refs
2nd one you admit was overthrown, but DHB should have caught it anyways?
and how do you explain his other 42 incompletions this season? were those all on the rookie WR’s as well?
October 2nd, 2009 at 9:54 am
Lefty,
“actually on the second one DHB was hooked by a DB and thrown off his route.he didn’t make some weird move,the DB made contact.it was PI but as usual it wasn’t called against us.”
Look at him as the ball crosses his path. Even if he’s contacted, he’s showing very poor football instincts and he must realize that he’s not going to get any help from the refs. Murphy’s Law is enough evidence of that.
Really though, I would have liked to see Russell pump fake it so the safety would cheat up further and hit Murphy deep, as he had a full head of steam. It’s obvious he’s the clear out, but Russell could have had something there with more patience.
October 2nd, 2009 at 10:01 am
Good receivers make poor throws look decent because they attack the ball.
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at least you admit the “poor throws” part. see how much better the AZ Cardinals are with Kurt Warner throwing to Larry Fitz & Anquan Boldin than Shaun King, Josh McCown or Matt Leinart?
what would Steve Smith & Mario Manningham look like in NY right now with Russell instead of Eli?
remember Randy Moss in Oakland and the QB’s we had throwing to him?
blaming Heyward-Bey & Murphy for Russell’s failures is like blaming Joe Biden & Hillary Clinton for Baracks!
October 2nd, 2009 at 10:03 am
RRS,
You misunderstand me. I’m talking about those two throws and DHB’s lack of experience and football instincts.
I agree, Russell is subpar. We’ve all seen him perform well and show flashes of being a very solid QB. To blame it all on Russell is just an easy way of channeling frustration though.
The argument of sticking a =nother Qb in his place and expecting success I think holds no water. The run game has been disappointing and the play calling and overall scheme much worse.
Stick Russell in with a different team, different receivers, coaches, system, etc. etc., he probably looks a lot better than he does here with the medevil nonsense.
October 2nd, 2009 at 10:08 am
blaming Heyward-Bey & Murphy for Russell’s failures is like blaming Joe Biden & Hillary Clinton for Baracks!
Barack hasn’t failed at anything yet, by the way.
He’s Russell with a lot more brains trying to turn around a situation that was an absolute mess created by his predecessors. The problem is the organization he’s in will never allow true progress.
October 2nd, 2009 at 10:16 am
# LA to TheBay Says:
October 2nd, 2009 at 10:03 am
…..
The argument of sticking a =nother Qb in his place and expecting success I think holds no water. The run game has been disappointing and the play calling and overall scheme much worse.
Stick Russell in with a different team, different receivers, coaches, system, etc. etc., he probably looks a lot better than he does here with the medevil nonsense.
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A different quarterback can make 5 yard swing check down passes to backs or screen passes. Jablubber can’t even make that. Sure, in a different system he could be better, but I’ve seen high school QB’s that can make screen passes and dumpoffs.
October 2nd, 2009 at 10:18 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 2nd, 2009 at 9:51 am
LA to TheBay :
1st one you say “fell down” when in reality he got tripped up.
………….
My problem with the pass was he threw into DOUBLE COVERAGE. The Safety was over the top and the corner was underneath.
The % of completing that pass is very low and it should have never been thrown.
The second pick was overthrown regardless of the route DHB was running or who bumped or anything else for that matter.
October 2nd, 2009 at 10:23 am
Obama HAS failed. No Olympics for Chi Town.
October 2nd, 2009 at 10:23 am
i don’t want any more g_damm mentors…
play ball… don’t think … play ball…
run… block… tackle… catch… play freaking ball!!!
October 2nd, 2009 at 10:24 am
It’s way too early to tell with DHB…he could be great because receivers take a few years to figure it out. However, JaManBoobs could screw up DHB’s development and he might never develop. A young receiver needs a good QB to mentor him.
October 2nd, 2009 at 10:25 am
Much of what JaMarcus did last year was check down. He knows how to do that. He’s missed one screen by a mile that I remember and threw another few that were high.
It seems pretty obvious they don’t want him checking down.
Let ‘er rip, right Tom?
October 2nd, 2009 at 10:26 am
Obama HAS failed. No Olympics for Chi Town.
I’d prefer healthcare reform and the elimination of torture.
October 2nd, 2009 at 10:28 am
Dakota Says:
October 2nd, 2009 at 9:47 am
No Chicago Olympics?
Another failed Obama adventure.
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Hilarious. Is JaMarcus’ attitude and McFelldown’s fumbling his fault too?
Actually, the violence in Chicago is likely the reason for the IOC vote. That kid getting stomped to death is a tragic embarassment.
October 2nd, 2009 at 10:28 am
Jamarcus = The Big Duece. A perfect nickname… finally.
October 2nd, 2009 at 10:30 am
75
JaMarcus threw that pass to where his receievr could grab it. It was placed wide of the safety and over the CB. DHB stays upright, doesn’t get contacted, it’s a catch.
I agree with you the decision wasn’t sound, but the pass was there.
If no QB ever tried to fit a ball over a CB and under a safety, we’d have a lot fewer passes in the league.
I’ve seen him make that play several times to more capable WRs.
October 2nd, 2009 at 10:30 am
I’m talking about those two throws and DHB’s lack of experience and football instincts.
I agree, Russell is subpar.
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you know that Russell is an inadequate QB, but you still throw DHB & Murphy under the bus?
JR has 2 years of NFL experience that DHB doesn’t have, yet Russell is still more of a raw prospect and displays a much greater lack of instincts than his WR.
Funny that Cable always makes little comments about Russell needing to “put the work in” , but i’ve never heard one person say that about Heyward-Bey, Murphy, McFadden or anybody else on the team for that matter.
Let’s hear your argument for Russell’s leadership, work ethic, footwork and conditioning!
going to blame the o-line, coaching staff and WR corps for those things too ???
October 2nd, 2009 at 10:30 am
Ok, 10th try. Fckin WordPress BS Jerry!!!!!!
RRS,
You really miss here.
“Let’s hear your argument for Russell’s leadership, work ethic, footwork and conditioning!”
I have none. It’s not there.
I’ll throw DHB, Russell, Cable, and McFadden, and John Marshall, and Al Davis under the bus.
You also didn’t see where I said Murphy’s not the problem.
October 2nd, 2009 at 10:31 am
Jamarcus Hussein Russell.
October 2nd, 2009 at 10:31 am
Silver-n-Smac Says:
October 1st, 2009 at 9:30 pm
KoolKell & Einstein:
While you to are in the middle of your catfight, let me ask you both this, since you both seem to hate Al Davis:
Whenever Al is no longer with us (hopefully not any time soon) don’t you think the Raiders completely lose all the aura, mystique, uniqueness, us-against-the-world image that is his very essence?
I mean, I don’t know about you, but, those are all the reasons I became a Raider fan in the first place. If it was only about wins/losses, then hell- we could all choose from any number of teams.
But, those are the things that made the Raiders different. They are the things that made the Raiders the Raiders!
And I don’t care what anyone says. When Al is gone, those things are ALL gone.
And frankly, I think the Raiders will become just another team.
And to me, that’s boring. Teams will win and teams will lose. But, being a fan of the Raiders made us different.
And I don’t want that to EVER end. But, it will when Al is gone. And that will suck. You guys may get your wish, but, at that point, you may as well root for any of the 32 teams because there won’t be anything different about this one.
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In other words, you bought the shirt because you thought the pirate made you look all “arrrrrrrrgh” ish?
Dude, can you be any more lame?
Uniqueness? Being the laughing stock of the league isn’t a goal.
The “aura”?? What aura? it’s football. Oh..you mean the really silly head up ass press conferences, where everyone has a half grin, knowing Al is about to do something that defys all logic/common sense? that’s not aura, that’s predictable “own worst enemy” tactics.
“us against the world”?? oh geez..LMFAO.
Now, how precious are you? “We’re in battle..AGAINST THE WORLD..take no prisoners…arrrrrrggghhhhhh!!”
Except it’s not a Ps2 game. It’s not “the world”.
I have bad news for you. Being laughed at by everyone? That just means the Raiders have gained universal acceptance as one of the worst organizations is all of sports..ALL OF SPORTS. That, again, shouldn’t BE A GOAL.
And dude? Having everyone laugh that you haven’t found a HC, again, isn’t a goal.
Yes, this is a PRIME EXAMPLE OF SOMEONE LIVING VICARIOUSLY THROUGH A TEAM..text book example.
You can always tell. “They all HATE US..and I like that” “It’s US AGAINST THE WORLD”.
One OTHER POSTER ON THIS BOARD I’ve, correctly, stated lives vicariously through the team, in this case Russell. LA -to the-Sty.
Look above with his juvenile dungeons and dragons (or whatever it is)silly bantor that indicates 13.
Facts are Al Davis has no aura, mystique, uniqueness, and certainaly instills no fear in anyone/organization/team, except his own. He’s old. Forgetful. Backwards. Stubborn. Archaic in his thinking, AND REFUSES TO CONFIDE WITH A SINGLE PERSON ON WHAT DECISIONS NEED TO BE MADE.
There is a reason..ONE REASON..why the Raiders are currently viewed as the worst organization, of any team, of any sport..ANY SPORT..and it’s Al Davis.
I hope he lives another 30 years. THAT IS THE GODS HONEST TRUTH.
October 2nd, 2009 at 10:33 am
Jamarcus Soetoro.
October 2nd, 2009 at 10:34 am
Those who blame only Russell are short sighted.
Those who blame Russell, DHB, DMC, the coaching staff, and the owner are on the right track.
All that being said, if the puzzle pieces were used correctly, there’s no resason this isn’t a 20-24 point a game offense.
October 2nd, 2009 at 10:38 am
“One OTHER POSTER ON THIS BOARD I’ve, correctly, stated lives vicariously through the team, in this case Russell. LA -to the-Sty.”
The one poster on this board I’ve correctly stated, that lives vicariously through the internet is Bichochet. You tell your kids you call people peanuts yet?
October 2nd, 2009 at 10:38 am
LA to TheBay : cut Russell next year (uncapped) and roll with the intern Danny Southwick
13-3.
same roster, coaching staff & owner …
pretty bad when your “franchise” QB makes you miss Aaron Brooks or Tee Martin!
October 2nd, 2009 at 10:38 am
Wow from one day to the next, everyone here is defending JaBust!!
October 2nd, 2009 at 10:38 am
r8eray Says:
October 2nd, 2009 at 10:41 am
That a scary thought! 30 more years..I’m changing teams!
You will not be missed.
October 2nd, 2009 at 10:40 am
Can Southwick throw 65 yards?
He better, unless your plan is to dump Russell AND Al Davis.
October 2nd, 2009 at 10:41 am
That a scary thought! 30 more years..I’m changing teams!
October 2nd, 2009 at 10:41 am
QB is a difficult position to learn in the NFL. RB is not. Rookie RBs regularly excel. DMAC is the number one failure on this team this season. He has NO excuse for his play this year.
I never thought I’d say this, but Bush And Rankin need to get DMAC’s playing time. They may not have DMAC’s “talent”, but at least they don’t tackle themselves, drop passes or fumble every other carry.
Play Bush. Play Fargas. Play Rankin. Consider offers for McFelldown.
October 2nd, 2009 at 10:46 am
Anybody think we are going to outcoach the Texans this week?
October 2nd, 2009 at 10:46 am
# He Hate Me Says:
October 2nd, 2009 at 10:23 am
Obama HAS failed. No Olympics for Chi Town.
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He shouldn’t have pissed off the French at the UN summit. The French judges are going to screw over our Gymnasts, too…just watch.
October 2nd, 2009 at 10:52 am
Rio for the Olympics…sweet…if Phelps is still participating he is going to be swimming around in circles because of all the drugs and alcohol!
Should be fun to watch!
October 2nd, 2009 at 10:52 am
The major problem with out team is the QB. It pains me to watch JaWalrus throw the ball. As of right now I don’t blame anyone but him. Once I see footballs consistently hitting peoples hands I wont put all the blame on him. Our offensive line has been solid in pass protection. On the other hand our running has been terrible because, at least IMO, our RB’s lack any vision. Our plays are set up for the RB’s to make reads before and once the ball is snapped. They are making the wrong reads, they don’t ever run outside when there is NO ONE AROUND. No, they run up the gut and into a wall. They even admitted this during the press conference after the Chiefs game. Drives me nutz. Anyways, thanks all for posting you comments, I enjoy reading them and just needed to vent. ( I do realize there are counter arguments to what I wrote, and valid ones, but that would be too time consuming for me to go through everything that’s APPEARS to be wrong with out team.)
Go Raiders!
October 2nd, 2009 at 10:55 am
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
October 2nd, 2009 at 10:41 am
Play Bush. Play Fargas. Play Rankin. Consider offers for McFelldown.
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I see you follow the raiders very closely.
October 2nd, 2009 at 10:55 am
Alex smith (nuff said)
October 2nd, 2009 at 10:55 am
Can Southwick throw 65 yards?
He better, unless your plan is to dump Russell AND Al Davis.
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how many passes from JR have been in excess of 30 yards? 2 or 3 out of 75?
are Garcia, Gradkowski or Frye known for their big arms? how about Tui, Otis, Booty or Meyer?
come on LA. you’re killing me with this stuff man!
October 2nd, 2009 at 10:55 am
RRS
“are Garcia, Gradkowski or Frye known for their big arms? how about Tui, Otis, Booty or Meyer?”
Why do you think Garcia is gone?
He was here because of his arm? Hell no. He was here to mentor Russell and have his work ethic rub off on him. They are not system fits and were never considered. Who got the nod when Gannon went down?
Killing you? These routes are killing me. Where is the intermediate stuff?
The ones he’s completing are the dump offs and crossing routes. He’s hit on one long bomb, to Murphy. Anything else he’s missed on, he’s missing deep or just overthrowing guys. The few times his deep balls are thrown nicely, DB is lost.
2 or 3?
Do you watch Raider games?
Certainly you don’t live through the team vicariously like Richochet and I do. Now that guy has this team down.
October 2nd, 2009 at 10:57 am
The few times his deep balls are thrown nicely, DHB is lost.*
October 2nd, 2009 at 10:57 am
LA to TheBay Says:
October 2nd, 2009 at 10:40 am
Can Southwick throw 65 yards?
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While kneeling in prayer.
October 2nd, 2009 at 10:58 am
In the 2006 and 2007 drafts the QB’S taken
in the first two rounds:
2007
Russell, Quinn, Kolb, Stanton
2006
Young,Leinert,Cutler,Clemens,Jackson
Not one in the bunch has not demonstrated developmental issues.
In many cases much more worrisome than JR.
What are you comparing JR to? Ryan,Sanchez,Flacco,Big Ben?
You can’t.
Those guys all went to teams that had been in the playoffs within the last couple of years of their arrival.
Hardly the mess that JR stepped into with Kiffin etc.
As I remember Aikman’s second year with Dallas they won seven games.
They made the playoffs after they drafted a DT in the first round the next year.
Deal with it.
October 2nd, 2009 at 10:59 am
Is there any hope for McFumble on Sunday? The dude can’t turn the corner without losing his footing. Seems as though he always goes down on first contact too…ankle tackles, shoestring tackles, etc.
Why not take a page out of the Donkies playbook and run 3 wide receiver sets and run out of that formation. The D won’t be able to play 8 in the box.
Would like to see more of TE Myers…did well during the pre-season.
Any thoughts?
October 2nd, 2009 at 11:01 am
True Charlie, but how many of those QBs listed were #1 picks?
October 2nd, 2009 at 11:03 am
BSJ: do you think we should sign former Cal QB Nate Longshore to back up Southwick next season?
October 2nd, 2009 at 11:06 am
Since Higgins went out, I dont remember seeing much of 3 WR sets? Can someone confirm?
October 2nd, 2009 at 11:08 am
JaMaybeNextYear ????
October 2nd, 2009 at 11:08 am
I agree Alisgod…don’t recall seeing very many, if any.
October 2nd, 2009 at 11:10 am
Black and white: Russell sucks, he’s dumb as hell and Gradkowski or any jr. high QB will do better. We’re a QB away from being a contender.
Real world: Russell sucks but he’s getting no help. The defensive scheme is dated, but works when done correctly and mixed up. MLBs on slot receievrs running crossing routes all day will not cut it. Little or no pressure on the opposing team’s offense will not cut it. Rookie WR lost on plays will not cut it. Not getting the ball to your good rookie WR will not cut it. Having your #2 RB (who is the starter) fumbling 3 times in a game will not cut it.
October 2nd, 2009 at 11:10 am
Do you watch Raider games?
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wow. we’ve resorted to this? whats next? you’re going to question my fanhood because I am skeptical about the (lack of) talent and work ethic in our “franchise” QB?
If Al Davis wants to win now, he’ll have to sit the bozo wearing #2 on the bench. Gradkowski & Frye may not be very good, but probably good enough to finish 8-8 with the overall talent elsewhere on this team.
October 2nd, 2009 at 11:11 am
“Since Higgins went out, I dont remember seeing much of 3 WR sets? Can someone confirm?”
They’ve put Watkins out there a few times and moved Zach out to the slot on occasion.
October 2nd, 2009 at 11:15 am
Not lights out CJ….just a helluva lot better, imo. Sunday’s performance was absolutely horrendous.
October 2nd, 2009 at 11:17 am
Good point, CJ. Double TE with blanket coverage on Miller should leave a quick out/in open for Myers. If we can see that how come Cable can’t?
October 2nd, 2009 at 11:19 am
Fix the site, please!
October 2nd, 2009 at 11:19 am
If Russel is out the picture unless we have a QB like Dre Breese this team is not going anywhere. A QB alone does not win games that is why it is called a football team!
We have the talent just not the creativity in our play calling.
Dig it! We play a straight man to man on defense every play every game with no pass rush. We play a straight run first offense with a verticle passing game that every defense in the league looks forward to each week. No creating space for the WRs or running backs. No playing to our teams strengths it is pathetic.
Stop pretending that we can get rid of Russel and just bring in any old QB and it is lights out.
October 2nd, 2009 at 11:21 am
No, there were not many three WR sets. There were also not any double tight end sets to help with the power running game or throw a pass out to either tightend. Myers can catch his @$$ off and Russel was able to find him in preseason now the guy never sees the field. We waste so much talent on this team.
October 2nd, 2009 at 11:30 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
QB is a difficult position to learn in the NFL. RB is not. Rookie RBs regularly excel. DMAC is the number one failure on this team this season. He has NO excuse for his play this year.
I never thought I’d say this, but Bush And Rankin need to get DMAC’s playing time. They may not have DMAC’s “talent”, but at least they don’t tackle themselves, drop passes or fumble every other carry.
Play Bush. Play Fargas. Play Rankin. Consider offers for McFelldown.
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Ok, this dude comes here talks about Southwick as if he is Peyton Manning and has no clue about the players we got and we dont, dude Rankin is gone he got signed by Seattle wake up man. Stop following Southwick like you are his girlfriend or something and start paying attention to your supposedly team.
October 2nd, 2009 at 11:33 am
RRS
“wow. we’ve resorted to this? whats next? you’re going to question my fanhood because I am skeptical about the (lack of) talent and work ethic in our “franchise” QB?”
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Wouldn’t dream of it. The best fans are the ones going “WTF, AL??” Because they know the team could be so much more. I’ve said before that I share your concerns about the work ethic of our QB.
I didn’t question your fanhood, just wondering how you could think he only went deep 2 or 3 times.
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“If Al Davis wants to win now, he’ll have to sit the bozo wearing #2 on the bench. Gradkowski & Frye may not be very good, but probably good enough to finish 8-8 with the overall talent elsewhere on this team.”
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Al Davis said he was skeptical about making the playoffs and more or less said we’re rebuilding at the presser early in the offseason.
My guess is he’d prefer to win his way. Meaning “no, Cable, Russell stays in and he’s going to learn this offense if it kills him and gets you fired!”
October 2nd, 2009 at 11:36 am
I still think Nnamndi should be QB.
October 2nd, 2009 at 11:37 am
CJ
Well put.
October 2nd, 2009 at 11:38 am
I didn’t question your fanhood, just wondering how you could think he only went deep 2 or 3 times.
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I guess that depends on your definition of the words “went deep” or “go deep”. At first you were referring to 65 yard bombs. That number would be zero. His hail mary didn’t even travel that far!
I’m sure much of that 65 yards talk was sarcasm, but I guess if deep to you is 15-25 yards, then we’ve done that plenty. Deep to me is 30+ . and yes, I’ve watched all 3 games this year FYI. wont get to see the Texans game though. Then you can give me an education on DHB’s performance in Week 4 and i’ll have to trust your judgement
October 2nd, 2009 at 11:41 am
Raiderz
Those were the QB’S deemed the best available in the world when they were drafted.
2006 and 2007 were years where we determined QB was a real team need.
The Raiders were no better or worse than at least eight other teams in assessing QB talent those years.
As matter of fact I would be willing to bet all of those other teams would have drafted Russell if available.
My ultimate point is that if you draft skill players with an inferior support system you will get marginal results.
The combination of better support systems and PLAYING experience is what determines success.
Declaring any skill palyer on the Raiders as a bust at this time is ridiculous.
October 2nd, 2009 at 11:42 am
LA
We are not going to win NOW.
How could you even imagine that as possible with the lack of experience on offense in the skill positions and an average Oline?
Satele,Carlisle,Pears,Green,Barnes.
Seriously.
We have only become improved on defense by adding four new productive players to the Dline mix.
We can go on and on about how things got this way but we will need to play our way out of it.
2010 is a draft that must focus on interior line play on both sides of the ball.
October 2nd, 2009 at 11:45 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 2nd, 2009 at 11:03 am
BSJ: do you think we should sign former Cal QB Nate Longshore to back up Southwick next season?
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Yes, Longshore would be a “system” fit LOL. Lets get Jim McMahon as QB coach for the Mormon trifecta.
October 2nd, 2009 at 11:45 am
Its ok it wasnt like there was any more important business to take care of here at home like the economy/jobs. Might as well fly to Copenhagen on separate jets on tax payer dollars, because you know the environmental nuts like ALGORE & the Obamas preach green BS and then leave a huge carbon footprint in the sky on a daily basis.
“Change you can believe in”
# He Hate Me Says:
October 2nd, 2009 at 10:23 am
Obama HAS failed. No Olympics for Chi Town.
October 2nd, 2009 at 11:48 am
Not lights out CJ….just a helluva lot better, imo. Sunday’s performance was absolutely horrendous.
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DTS: Agreed. I’m not asking for Al Davis to trade for a Pro Bowl QB or draft another one in Round 1 of the 2010 draft. I just don’t like to see a guy in there thats gives us almost no shot at winning. Gradkowski or Frye could come in and complete 14/25 passes for 200 yards with no TD’s and no INT’s and we’ve have a much better chance at success imo. defense plays better rested and with good field position. screen passes & dumpoffs, maybe even slants & crossing routes to our young dangerous targets could net big gains. Janikowski & Lechler both have strong legs, which benefits the offense in a big way. Everybody knows that the Raiders want to run the football, but if they stack 8 or 9 in the box you’ll have to throw it and try to exploit the mismatch or find the open target. Russell is garbage. time to move on
October 2nd, 2009 at 11:51 am
The Black Hole, For Player Careers
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Worst of all, McFadden – their prize No. 4 overall draft pick – has more fumbles (seven) than touchdowns (five) in 16 games played. Outside his 164-yard game at Kansas City last year, he has no games with more than 68 rushing yards – and 14 with under 50.
That’s right. Quarterback JaMarcus Russell and wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey aren’t the only first-round picks struggling their way into Sunday’s game at Houston.
October 2nd, 2009 at 11:51 am
TrueRaider Says:
October 2nd, 2009 at 11:30 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
QB is a difficult position to learn in the NFL. RB is not. Rookie RBs regularly excel. DMAC is the number one failure on this team this season. He has NO excuse for his play this year.
I never thought I’d say this, but Bush And Rankin need to get DMAC’s playing time. They may not have DMAC’s “talent”, but at least they don’t tackle themselves, drop passes or fumble every other carry.
Play Bush. Play Fargas. Play Rankin. Consider offers for McFelldown.
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Ok, this dude comes here talks about Southwick as if he is Peyton Manning and has no clue about the players we got and we dont, dude Rankin is gone he got signed by Seattle wake up man. Stop following Southwick like you are his girlfriend or something and start paying attention to your supposedly team.
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LOL.
Yes, I forgot about Rankin but my point is the same. McFelldown has been performing like a practice squad player. Where’s Echimandu?
And I still want Southwick on my “supposedly” team. We went to the same Div. III school, bozo. Deal with it.
October 2nd, 2009 at 11:51 am
Solid points Charlie! I don’t necessarily think it was a bad idea to draft Russell (yes other teams would have drafted him for sure), but I do question his ability now that he is in the NFL. Sometimes I get tired of the prospects that rely too much on talent but seem to miss the very important intangibles that great players usually have. I have no problem with giving him a fair chance, but I also don’t have a problem cutting him and moving on. That decision will have to be made sometime.
It just really bothers me when he can’t accurately throw a five yard pass.
Go Raiders!
October 2nd, 2009 at 11:53 am
RRS
I’m sure much of that 65 yards talk was sarcasm, but I guess if deep to you is 15-25 yards, then we’ve done that plenty. Deep to me is 30+ . and yes, I’ve watched all 3 games this year FYI. wont get to see the Texans game though. Then you can give me an education on DHB’s performance in Week 4 and i’ll have to trust your judgement
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Deal.
We’re on the same page.
October 2nd, 2009 at 11:53 am
Let’s not rush Chaz back. Could be lost the entire season if he returns too soon.
October 2nd, 2009 at 11:55 am
Charlie Says:
October 2nd, 2009 at 11:42 am
LA
We are not going to win NOW.
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I know, you’re proving my point.
I never said that.
October 2nd, 2009 at 11:56 am
I got a feeling M. Vick will be in a silver and black uniform next year.
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:01 pm
I got a feeling M. Vick will be in a silver and black uniform next year.
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hopefully it’s just gas.
Vick hasn’t proved he can throw the football as of yet upon his release from prison. In fact, he only completed 54 percent of his passes from 2001-2006. Overall QB Rating of 76. 71 TD’s and 52 INT’s isn’t too bad though.
over 3800 rushing yards and 21 rush TD’s helps too.
Russell has only completed 52 percent of his passes so far in 19 NFL starts. 16 TD’s, 16 INT’s. Overall QB Rating of 68. Hard to argue that Vick isn’t a better option.
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:01 pm
JaMarcus is still a kid and we dont give up on our own when they dont do what we expect. Jmac is Al’s kid and he invested a lot of money on him so his patience has to be more then we are willing to give him. Al understands that this wont happen over night, he said it himself we failed Moss as an orginization, he knows Jmac has had a rough start to his carreer. Patience is something i do have, i wear the logo on my arm daily Tattooed so i love my team. I will not give up On Jmac i do have faith in him. He just needs our support not us booing him were supposed to be on his side. It gets to the point when us as fans take it personaly, we dont play the game and we will never understand the game like the coaches do, thats why were not coaching. If we as fans throw that much money into a business and gave it only 3 years to flourish without all the things to make it work, would you go bankrupt or stick with it knowing your gonna put more effort into it. He has had to much go wrong to be succesful. Patience people please.
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:01 pm
r8dr4lfe21
Well put.
I’ve said before it’s hard for the Nation to have patience because we’ve been in a real drought for 6+ years.
Al is asking the fans to wait some more, and we’re all frustrated, especially after witnessing the team look legit against the Chargers.
It won’t happen overnight. Russell, McFadden, and DHB are not where we want them to be, although (and I’m going out on a real limb here, skeptics) I’d think that they WANT to get better rather than sucking, collecting a check, and getting booed at.
Most in here are ready to dump all three of them and several other players and they think we’ll win immediately.
Maybe with better personel and coaching, they’re right. Fact is a lot of time and money has been invested in those three and it may take time to come to fruition.
Who was the last good Raider QB?
Gannon. How old was he? Who were his WRs? Who was his coach? What kind of system did they run?
RB? WR?
See what I’m getting at?
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:07 pm
How about making a move for Jon Kitna??????
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:09 pm
Never was able to get anything on paper, but I heard a lot of rumblings that the Raiders were serious in the Mike Vick sweepstakes and lost out to Philly.
Cable was on the Falcon’s staff during Vick’s 1000 yard rushing campaign. Would be a very interesting wrinkle.
Problem is, our offense isn’t creative enough to make anything happen with or without Vick. He’s interesting because he can make things happen when the play breaks down, though, so it certainly couldn’t hurt.
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:09 pm
The Black Hole, For Player Careers & Fans
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Worst of all, McFadden – their prize No. 4 overall draft pick – has more fumbles (seven) than touchdowns (five) in 16 games played. Outside his 164-yard game at Kansas City last year, he has no games with more than 68 rushing yards – and 14 with under 50.
That’s right. Quarterback JaMarcus Russell and wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey aren’t the only first-round picks struggling their way into Sunday’s game at Houston.
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:10 pm
r8dr4lfe21 Says:
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:01 pm
JaMarcus is still a kid and we dont give up on our own when they dont do what we expect.
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Where did you get this fantasy? If by “our own” you mean first round picks, lets reminisce:
Fabian Washington? Gave up on him.
Philip Buchanon? Gave up on him.
Tyler Brayton? Gave up on him.
Napolean Harris? Gave up on him. Twice.
Derrick Gibson? Gave up on him.
Matt Stinchcomb? Gave up on him.
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:10 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:01 pm
I got a feeling M. Vick will be in a silver and black uniform next year.
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Why get Vick when we can get Tebow?
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:10 pm
Tebow?
I’ll second the motion!
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:11 pm
I understand we think he needs to put forth more effort, and i agree but we dont know what he does we just guess that he is not practicing. BHD would have benefited from Jmac’s passing camp but he wasnt under contract. I see him on the sidelines talking to hackett everytime he steps off the feild, but yet i read people saying he goes and sits alone, thats bull. Murphy getting in DHB’s face was good to see, he is showing leadership and the want to win. If Jmac throws 3 incomplete passes and the WR drop 2 others, his stats look even worse right but not all his fault. If Jmac goes 3 and out on 2 straight drives and then gets us moving and we get penalties and fumbles it makes his stats look even worse. And makes us even more angry when in reality it wasnt all his fault.
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:11 pm
I would sign Jon Kitna.
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:12 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:09 pm
The Black Hole, For Player Careers & Fans
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Worst of all, McFadden – their prize No. 4 overall draft pick – has more fumbles (seven) than touchdowns (five) in 16 games played. Outside his 164-yard game at Kansas City last year, he has no games with more than 68 rushing yards – and 14 with under 50.
That’s right. Quarterback JaMarcus Russell and wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey aren’t the only first-round picks struggling their way into Sunday’s game at Houston.
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http://www.raidernationstation.com/2009_regular_season
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:13 pm
Tebow= Young white version of Vick w/o the criminal history
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:13 pm
DMAC Says:
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:13 pm
Tebow= Young white version of Vick w/o the criminal history
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I must respectfully disagree.
Tebow does a lot of running up the gut, and it’s all designed QB keeper stuff.
Vick thinks on his feet, is a far more talented athlete and pure runnner and has years of experience, winning a playoff game in Lambeau.
Tebow will be yet another “start from scratch” idea that needs to be jettisoned immediately.
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:15 pm
i think you may be wrong and that the booing may be the best thing that has happened to russell so far.
the guy held out therefore he has proclaimed himself “that good, that reliable, and that dedicated”
so far he has proven none of the above, i don’t want to hear about coaching changes and crap either, that has nothing to do with throwing a ball 20-30 yds acuratley, reading defenses and applying scheme sure, but accuracey is all on him
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:15 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
October 2nd, 2009 at 11:10 am
Black and white: Russell sucks, he’s dumb as hell
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That’s the part we really need to worry about. You can fix mechanics, but you can’t fix smarts. The only dumb ass QB every to win a Superbowl I can ever remember is Eli Manning…and that dude is a serious mouth breather.
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:16 pm
# Raiderz Says:
October 2nd, 2009 at 11:01 am
True Charlie, but how many of those QBs listed were #1 picks?
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That’s a point I have brought up on this site two trillion times. You cannot compare Russell to say, Flacco or Sanchez because they went to teams that have had some substantial recent success. You have to compare him to other overall number one choices, who are going into similar circumstances, i.e., they are playing for bad teams. Names like Alex Smith, David Carr, Mike Vick, and Tim Couch just to name some recent players. Matt Stafford threw three pix in his first game. You can also compare him to overall number two’s and three’s which bring in such superstars as Joey Harrington, Akili Smith, Ryan Leaf and Vince Young for every Donovan McNabbb out there.
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:16 pm
# kvnbntly Says:
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:15 pm
i think you may be wrong and that the booing may be the best thing that has happened to russell so far.
the guy held out therefore he has proclaimed himself “that good, that reliable, and that dedicated”
so far he has proven none of the above, i don’t want to hear about coaching changes and crap either, that has nothing to do with throwing a ball 20-30 yds acuratley, reading defenses and applying scheme sure, but accuracey is all on him
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Yeah, but you are assuming the receivers are in the exact right spot they are supposed to be. That may not be true. And since they are rookies and have never played, the chances that they are in the right spot, is even slimmer. And as I stated a few days ago, on Russells second pick in the Denver Game, Chump Bailey put a shoulder into Heyward-Bey knocking him waay off his route. The ball got picked, no call, and the “fans” booed Russell, who actually threw it where it was supposed to be thrown.
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:17 pm
Oak
I said that in my post 291.
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:20 pm
We didnt give up on them, we gave them plenty a chance to succeed they didnt. Nnamdi we didnt give up on him, havent givin up on Huff, besides they all had more then 3 years and a far less investment then Jmac.
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:21 pm
DMAC Says:
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:24 pm
LA
Will he be any better than Vick in the NFL?
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That’s always a crap shoot. My feeling is not at QB. Maybe FB or some sort of hybrid. Those who watch Tebow week in and week out obviously love all the leadership qualities, but also swear by his arm and QB skills. I just don’t see it.
Of course, I’m not an expert and even the experts get it wrong half the time.
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:22 pm
DTS: Agreed. I’m not asking for Al Davis to trade for a Pro Bowl QB or draft another one in Round 1 of the 2010 draft. I just don’t like to see a guy in there thats gives us almost no shot at winning. Gradkowski or Frye could come in and complete 14/25 passes for 200 yards with no TD’s and no INT’s and we’ve have a much better chance at success imo. defense plays better rested and with good field position. screen passes & dumpoffs, maybe even slants & crossing routes to our young dangerous targets could net big gains. Janikowski & Lechler both have strong legs, which benefits the offense in a big way. Everybody knows that the Raiders want to run the football, but if they stack 8 or 9 in the box you’ll have to throw it and try to exploit the mismatch or find the open target. Russell is garbage. time to move on
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Can’t argue there. You play to win the game. As much as I despise the Chiefs I have to agree with their coach when he said he wouldn’t hesitate to bench Matt Cassel if it gave the team a better shot at winning. That was exactly Jeff Garcia’s mindset, now I’m no Garcia Homer, but if he hypothetically speaking were to have outperformed Russell throughout training camp and the preseason how do you not start him. He would give you the best chance to lead the team to victory. Hell, he gives us a better chance now and he ain’t even on a team, let alone are team.
As far as Russell and the inaccuracy, that can’t be coached. If he can’t throw a dumpoff, or screen (we can’t run these plays to save our lives, for what ever reason) or an out, what the hell is he good for….absolutely nothing. I’m tired of hearing the kid talk…he sounds like a bumbling idiot. I’m guessing Davis drafted him in the hopes of molding him into something he will never be…an NFL quarterback. CFL? There’s still hope.
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:24 pm
LA
Will he be any better than Vick in the NFL?
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:25 pm
Mista brown noser – take your right wing crap comments to glen(alchoholic) beck or Rush (pill popper) limburgers blog. this is a place to bash our football team…
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:27 pm
i wouldn’t “give up” on russell just yet, but i don’t think benching him (not just yet) wouldn’t hurt he keeps having bad games and his confidence is going to get messed with then hell be indesisive and think too much, react to little, probably part of his problem now, but the booing isn’t all a bad thing, think of it as al davis being politically correct and letting the fans chew butt
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:33 pm
Kelly,
if Al Davis died tomorrow, how many games would the Raiders win this year & next with Russell starting every game for the next 2 seasons???
by the way, did Russell get that brohawk at your barbershop? he’s making it look bad …
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:34 pm
The Raiders have no chance until they’re pried form Davis’ cold dead hands.
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:37 pm
Damn They Suck Says:
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:22 pm
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I’m tired of hearing the kid talk…he sounds like a bumbling idiot.
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Could you imagine if you combined Eli Manning’s speech impediment with the words that come out of JaBrainiac’s mouth? Now that would be some funny stuff. Best QB EVER.
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:37 pm
# Charlie Says:
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:17 pm
Oak
I said that in my post 291.
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Any you are exactly right!
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:38 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:40 pm
# DMAC Says:
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:13 pm
Tebow= Young white version of Vick w/o the criminal history
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You’re a racist and an idiot.
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hmmm… let me see if i can help…
Tebow= Young, small peckered version of Vick w/o the criminal history
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:39 pm
Damn, RRS is the man. This didn’t occur to me til just now…
“by the way, did Russell get that brohawk at your barbershop? he’s making it look bad …”
That’s it. Problem solved.
All this time we thought it was lack of awareness, poor footwork, poor coaching, and rookie WRs!
Hell no, Russell regressed as soon as he started rockin’ the frohawk.
Get the clippers out and get ready for a W!
I got the Raderade mixed up. Get your dixie cups ready, Nation. Kell, call the barbershop, let’s get this thing turned around.
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:40 pm
# DMAC Says:
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:13 pm
Tebow= Young white version of Vick w/o the criminal history
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You’re a racist and an idiot.
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:41 pm
MR
“Now you guys are calling for Gradkowski and Frye, two McCowns, basically. You guys suddenly want to go west coast, after 3 years of longing for putting Russell in and going vertical. Welcome to reality.”
I’m still wondering why we even signed those three (including Garcia), other than perhaps the Hackett connection with Brucie and Jeffie (wow, match made in heaven).
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:42 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:33 pm
Kelly,
if Al Davis died tomorrow, how many games would the Raiders win this year & next with Russell starting every game for the next 2 seasons???
The barbershop I go to, I’ve never seen “brohawks”. They don’t do weaves or Konks, or any other of that shyt. So save your concern for your own piss-poor podunk community, ok?
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If Al died tomorrow, I think the Raiders would do no worse this season than they already are.
Next year they win 8 as they recover from years of dysfunction.
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:42 pm
Kell, Davis will be gone soon enough. He doesn’t have money.
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:42 pm
McCown > Russell
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:43 pm
No More Infield or Trolls Says:
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:25 pm
Mista brown noser – take your right wing crap comments to glen(alchoholic) beck or Rush (pill popper) limburgers blog. this is a place to bash our football team…
Just noticed this due to the jumbling of the posts (Jerry).
LMAO at “this is a place to bash our football team…”
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:45 pm
This is hilarious! A lot of you guys hated Kiffin for using McCown, a more west coast type who favors more high percentage passes, instead of playing Russell or Culpepper. Now you guys are calling for Gradkowski and Frye, two McCowns, basically. You guys suddenly want to go west coast, after 3 years of longing for putting Russell in and going vertical. Welcome to reality.
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:47 pm
“hahaa…yeah but we know that Tebow’s butt hole is still a virgin.”
I bet there was a priest that was just too friendly somewhere along the lines and Tebow seems impressionable.
I’m gonna have to sell on that one…
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:47 pm
Florida Pete Says:
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:38 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:40 pm
# DMAC Says:
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:13 pm
Tebow= Young white version of Vick w/o the criminal history
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You’re a racist and an idiot.
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hmmm… let me see if i can help…
Tebow= Young, small peckered version of Vick w/o the criminal history
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:47 pm
do you have a link to an article that can verify that Real Madden Raider…hope you are right in that assessment.
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:47 pm
How am I a racist? He’s white isn’t he???
Just STFU!
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:48 pm
RockStar, if Al Davis died tomorrow, we’d probably win 9 games this year. First thing Cable would do is fire John Marshall and bring in a more modern defensive coordinator with more versatile schemes, something you have to have in today’s NFL. I’m guessing we wouldn’t be throwing deep from our own end zone anymore, either. I did not see the same playcalling last week as I did the first two weeks. Al’s meddling is killing this team. The sooner Al Davis dies, as you put it, the sooner we start to win. FACT.
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:49 pm
if Al Davis died tomorrow, JaMarcus Russell would be cut tomorrow.
so whoever loves Russell and has dreams of Al kicking the bucket and JR soaring like an eagle is just delusional. JaWalrus wouldn’t start for any other team in the league.
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:51 pm
# Florida Pete Says:
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:47 pm
Florida Pete Says:
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:38 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:40 pm
# DMAC Says:
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:13 pm
Tebow= Young white version of Vick w/o the criminal history
…….
You’re a racist and an idiot.
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hmmm… let me see if i can help…
Tebow= Young, small peckered version of Vick w/o the criminal history
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hahaa…yeah but we know that Tebow’s butt hole is still a virgin. Can’t say the same for Vick.
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:53 pm
If Davis died tomorrow, the Coaches would be able to work off the run-game. Instead of forcing the Deep-ball to Bey, to make Davis look good.
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:54 pm
El Negro, truthfully, we really don’t know if Tebow’s butt hole is still a virgin. Considering all of the bible thumpers that have been outed in recent years?
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:55 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:45 pm
This is hilarious! A lot of you guys hated Kiffin for using McCown, a more west coast type who favors more high percentage passes, instead of playing Russell or Culpepper. Now you guys are calling for Gradkowski and Frye, two McCowns, basically. You guys suddenly want to go west coast, after 3 years of longing for putting Russell in and going vertical. Welcome to reality.
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Actually maddenraider I think we are beginning to see who the real zeroes are in all of this. Russell throws 2 pix in the last game, yet throws them where they should be thrown and the sh** rain boos down on him and Raider “fan” wants him gone. Before him, McCown comes in to run Kiffins offense, completes 6 straight passes to start his Raider career, the 7th falls incomplete, and the sh** rain boos come down onto him. Before him, Kerry Collins gets booed off the field by Raider “fan” in the Black Hole, and yet last year posted a 13-4 record losing to Baltimore in the playoffs. And I can keep going here for the previous twenty years. Now Raider fan wants to bench Russell and put in a guy who in his last NFL start was 7 for 21 for 26 yards, and 3 PIX!! for a 2.6 passer rating. I think it is Raider fan who has reached a new low.
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:56 pm
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
Where did you get this fantasy? If by “our own” you mean first round picks, lets reminisce:
Fabian Washington? Gave up on him.
Philip Buchanon? Gave up on him.
Tyler Brayton? Gave up on him.
Napolean Harris? Gave up on him. Twice.
Derrick Gibson? Gave up on him.
Matt Stinchcomb? Gave up on him.
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Well, Fabian is a starter with the Ravens.
Brayton is a starter with the Panthers even though they have a second round pick in the bench Everette whom they gave up a first round for next year. Buchanon is in detroit. Stinchcomb is retired.
Gibson and Harris are the only ones who really sucked not to find jobs in this league. I will be honest with u, it is the scheme, some CBs play cover 2 in college only to find themselves man to man in Oakland. Al Davis scheme sometimes dont fit with top picks players.
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:56 pm
THIS TEAM HAS THE TALENT TO MAKE A PLAYOFF PUSH!!!!
GET GARCIA BACK, SIT RUSSELL SO HE CAN SEE HOW A REAL PROFESSIONAL PLAYER WINS GAMES. SAY WHAT YOU WILL ABOUT GARCIA, BUT HE’S A WINNER. RUSSELL IS APPROACHING RYAN LEAF STATUS. HE’S AWFUL!!
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:57 pm
# LA to TheBay Says:
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:47 pm
I bet there was a priest that was just too friendly somewhere along the lines and Tebow seems impressionable.
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Exactly what I’m thinking.
October 2nd, 2009 at 1:00 pm
# DMAC Says:
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:47 pm
How am I a racist? He’s white isn’t he???
Just STFU!
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Nothing worse than a racist trying to rationalize their racism. Go back to your shed, moron.
October 2nd, 2009 at 1:02 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 2nd, 2009 at 12:54 pm
El Negro, truthfully, we really don’t know if Tebow’s butt hole is still a virgin. Considering all of the bible thumpers that have been outed in recent years?
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Maybe that’s what went wrong with JaSphincter, too. They do some strange things down south…
October 2nd, 2009 at 1:04 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 2nd, 2009 at 1:04 pm
El Negro, I doubt anything like that has ever happened to Russell. He’s not the best QB I’ve ever seen but he looks like he can hold his own in the real world, and wouldn’t let himself be a victim of something like that. Tebow’s another story.
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I bet that JaWalruss is a big pushover. Most people that are big can’t fight worth a darn. Have you seen what Shaq looks like then he’s thrown a punch? He hits like a 13 y/o girl. To fight good takes training, practice, dedication, and you have to develop good footwork, too. That sounds a lot like learning to play QB.
October 2nd, 2009 at 1:04 pm
El Negro, I doubt anything like that has ever happened to Russell. He’s not the best QB I’ve ever seen but he looks like he can hold his own in the real world, and wouldn’t let himself be a victim of something like that. Tebow’s another story.
October 2nd, 2009 at 1:04 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 2nd, 2009 at 1:07 pm
Also, El Negro, I don’t think Vick’s a punk, either. And therefore, I’m willing to bet his number 2 hole remains exit only, despite his prison stint. I think you’re kind of confused as to how things work in prison.
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Got some first hand experience you would like to share?
October 2nd, 2009 at 1:07 pm
Also, El Negro, I don’t think Vick’s a punk, either. And therefore, I’m willing to bet his number 2 hole remains exit only, despite his prison stint. I think you’re kind of confused as to how things work in prison.
October 2nd, 2009 at 1:07 pm
# El Negro Cato Says:
October 2nd, 2009 at 1:04 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 2nd, 2009 at 1:07 pm
Also, El Negro, I don’t think Vick’s a punk, either. And therefore, I’m willing to bet his number 2 hole remains exit only, despite his prison stint. I think you’re kind of confused as to how things work in prison.
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Got some first hand experience you would like to share?
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LOL….
October 2nd, 2009 at 1:12 pm
If Davis died tomorrow, we might get a real GM, who might get a real head coach, who would probably go get a real QB.
October 2nd, 2009 at 1:13 pm
Kell, it’s hilarious when these guys try to say that if Davis died tomorrow, it wouldn’t make any difference. Are you kidding me? It would make a world of difference. I don’t wish death on anyone but if Davis did die, this team would improve immediately. Marshall gone. Cable is new school, zone blocking schemes, I’m thinking he’d like to see more zone blitzing on defense. He’d bring in a completely new DC and a completely new scheme with him. No more forcing the deep ball. Throwing deep from the end zone, forcing it to Bey, has Davis’s signature all over it. Basically, if Davis died tomorrow, we’d look how we looked the first two weeks. Not great, but competitive. With Davis alive, we’ll see more of what we saw against Denver.
October 2nd, 2009 at 1:14 pm
You two need to get a room to discuss sphinctors
October 2nd, 2009 at 1:14 pm
Higgins says he will play at Houston and he so wants his first catch of the season … and the second, and the third, and …
“I just want the ball,” said Higgins, who led all Raider receivers in receptions and yards last season. “That’s it. If I could give myself the ball every time, I would. When I do get the ball, I’m just like, ‘I’m gonna make a play, I’ve got to make the play.’ That’s just my mentality.”
Does he say as much to Russell in the huddle?
“I don’t say nothing because the thing is you don’t want to get a quarterback mad at you. You don’t want to look like you’re a pouting receiver or anything like that. I just say when I do get the ball, I’m going to show you what I got.”
-David White (SF Gate)
October 2nd, 2009 at 1:15 pm
new post barack worshippers.
October 2nd, 2009 at 1:20 pm
El Negro, no, I don’t have any experience with the prison system. But anyone who thinks Vick is a punk while Tebow is a super hero who could never be raped obviously doesn’t have the high ground to question anyone’s expertise, either. To be honest with you, Tebow’s character and personality fits the profile of just about every bible thumper I’ve ever seen on t.v. who’s been outed.
October 2nd, 2009 at 1:25 pm
# El Negro Cato Says:
October 2nd, 2009 at 1:04 pm
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I bet that JaWalruss is a big pushover. Most people that are big can’t fight worth a darn. Have you seen what Shaq looks like then he’s thrown a punch? He hits like a 13 y/o girl. To fight good takes training, practice, dedication, and you have to develop good footwork, too. That sounds a lot like learning to play QB.
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OMG…El Negro’s so tough, guys. He’s claiming he can beat up Shaq… I’ve never been more scared.
October 2nd, 2009 at 1:48 pm
Oakglenn Says:
Actually maddenraider I think we are beginning to see who the real zeroes are in all of this. Russell throws 2 pix in the last game, yet throws them where they should be thrown and the sh** rain boos down on him and Raider “fan” wants him gone. Before him, McCown comes in to run Kiffins offense, completes 6 straight passes to start his Raider career, the 7th falls incomplete, and the sh** rain boos come down onto him. Before him, Kerry Collins gets booed off the field by Raider “fan” in the Black Hole, and yet last year posted a 13-4 record losing to Baltimore in the playoffs. And I can keep going here for the previous twenty years. Now Raider fan wants to bench Russell and put in a guy who in his last NFL start was 7 for 21 for 26 yards, and 3 PIX!! for a 2.6 passer rating. I think it is Raider fan who has reached a new low.
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Dude, go ahead and keep your positive attitude. This team has been losing for 6 SEASONS. Russell sucks, worst QB in the league. Ok, you seem like a youngster so I will talk to you like a kid, very simple.
What happened the year after JR, Bowe, Davis all left LSU to the NFL, LSU WON THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP, they lost their best QB, two Wide Recievers Safety etc and they still won more games and national title. That tells me Russel was a system QB not talent, just like Urban Meyers when he coached Utah and made Alex Smth the best QB, same way with JR he is just a system QB. If Al Davis never drafted him he would have fallen the same way Brady Quinn fell who was considered a top 10 talent and better then JR who showed up out of shape and didnt care abt his work ethic while Brady was benching more than running backs. My point is there was signs that this dude is not worth the first overall pick, but Al was fell in love with the prayer throw kneeling down for 70 yards and never noticed that he never took a snap from the center. LSU had top defense and still they ended up with in the Sugar bowl against a Notre idiots who is coached by fat idiot coach.
Ok here is another factor, check out the games JR struggled against, those defenses resembled NFL defenses.
This 2006
Against Auburn no TDs 57.1 Pct
Against Florida 1 td 3 INT 58 PCT
This 2005
Against Tennesse 158 1 int 50 Pct
Against Auburn 190 1 td 48.5 Pct
Against Alabama 229 1 td 53.3 Pct
Against Arkansas 194 1 td 44.8 Pct
Dude check the facts then talk, don’t just blame us the fans, especially the ones who are smart enough to put you on check. I think the Real MR always says its Al davis that is reason we are losing for 6 seasons.
October 2nd, 2009 at 7:36 pm
We need someone intelligent at the QB position. Look at Ja-idiots statement. It doesn’t even make any sense. He’s just throwing random cliche’s together that he’s probably heard from watching post game interviews on ESPN, but not putting them in any understandable order. He’s just a very dumb person. Jadumbas makes Terry Bradshaw look like the smartest guy in football history.