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Schilens may still be a ways off

News and notes from Thursday’s post-practice press briefing by Raiders coach Tom Cable:

– This is just a hunch, but it’s starting to look as if wide receiver Chaz Schilens (broken left metatarsal) may not be much of a factor next for next week’s game against the New York Jets, let alone Sunday’s road game against the Houston Texans.

Schilens has been out of view of the media ever since the team returned to Alameda, and although Cable has publicly held out hope his best receiver could play against Houston, it doesn’t look like he’s anywhere close to taking the field.

As the Raiders began Friday’s session, Schilens was working along with free safety Hiram Eugene doing some low impact agility exercises. Schilens may join his teammates Friday for some individual drills and do what Cable described as “light work, just kind of introduce him to it.”

Regarding Schilens availability for Sunday, Cable said, “I would say this: it’s doubtful.”

Asked how Schilens would fit in when healthy, Cable said, “I think once he’s back into the routine, absolutely, we need to get him involved. But that may lend itself to a little more three-receiver stuff.”

When quarterback JaMarcus Russell spoke to reporters before practice, it didn’t sound as if he has been throwing to Schilens or even communicating about the particulars of when the receiver would return.

“I don’t know,” Russell said. “I haven’t heard from Chaz as far as his recovery. But I know he’s doing pretty good. He’ll be a big help, and to the young guys, he’ll be a help to them just by letting them know he was young before he’d been in it and go out there and make some plays. It would be good to get him back.”

Since Schilens has done little more than treadmill work after an initial period of inactivity, it’s been six weeks since he really ran and cut on his foot. It could be midseason before we see the Schilens who was so impressive during training camp and caught give passes from Russell in the preseason opener against Dallas.

– One of Darren McFadden’s problems, other than fumbles? The pass isn’t going well enough to set up the run.

“He’s been somewhat productive when it’s been there is the best way to say it,” Cable said. “But again we need to throw the ball in order to have more lanes open up.”

– Houston quarterback Matt Schaub has thrown for 823 yards with a 64.5 percent completion rate with seven touchdown passes and two interceptions through three games, which doesn’t come as a shock to Cable. He was the line coach with the Falcons when Schaub was the backup for Michael Vick.

“We thought he was really good. He was terrific. At that time he was the No. 2 and we thought maybe the best No. 2 in football,” Cable said. “It doesn’t surprise me at all what Matt’s doing.”

– Cable said Thursday was another sharp practice and reiterated his belief the Raiders are nearing a breakthrough game and that the players realize it, but that it’s about time to make it happen.

“Actually, they’re the easiest (to convince) because they can see it,” Cable said. “It’s one thing to say it and then it’s not really there. We had another good day so they can see it because they have seen so much and been here enough.

“They’re really the catalysts for getting it going . . . you have to have the proof at some point.”

– Eugene should get in some work Friday, Cable said, but is still “questionable” and the probability is that Michael Huff will start again at free safety. Huff was limited with rib and quadriceps issues. Cornerback Jonathan Holland was limited (elbow) and could be active as a cornerback though Justin Miller was brought in to return kickoffs.

Holland, although only recently moved to defense, would play ahead of Miller in the secondary, Cable said.

Fullback Luke Lawton sustained a light hamstring strain at the conclusion of the Wednesday practice and was limited Thursday. Cable said he would have a better idea about Lawton’s game availability Friday.

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  • http://RAIDERS Oakglenn

    # Charlie Says:
    October 2nd, 2009 at 12:17 pm

    Oak
    I said that in my post 291.
    ============================================

    Any you are exactly right!

  • Florida Pete

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    October 2nd, 2009 at 12:40 pm
    # DMAC Says:
    October 2nd, 2009 at 12:13 pm

    Tebow= Young white version of Vick w/o the criminal history

    …….

    You’re a racist and an idiot.

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    hmmm… let me see if i can help…

    Tebow= Young, small peckered version of Vick w/o the criminal history

  • LA to TheBay

    Damn, RRS is the man. This didn’t occur to me til just now…

    “by the way, did Russell get that brohawk at your barbershop? he’s making it look bad …”

    That’s it. Problem solved.

    All this time we thought it was lack of awareness, poor footwork, poor coaching, and rookie WRs!

    Hell no, Russell regressed as soon as he started rockin’ the frohawk.

    Get the clippers out and get ready for a W!

    I got the Raderade mixed up. Get your dixie cups ready, Nation. Kell, call the barbershop, let’s get this thing turned around.

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    # DMAC Says:
    October 2nd, 2009 at 12:13 pm

    Tebow= Young white version of Vick w/o the criminal history

    …….

    You’re a racist and an idiot.

  • LA to TheBay

    MR

    “Now you guys are calling for Gradkowski and Frye, two McCowns, basically. You guys suddenly want to go west coast, after 3 years of longing for putting Russell in and going vertical. Welcome to reality.”

    I’m still wondering why we even signed those three (including Garcia), other than perhaps the Hackett connection with Brucie and Jeffie (wow, match made in heaven).

  • http://www.car.org KoolKell

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    October 2nd, 2009 at 12:33 pm

    Kelly,

    if Al Davis died tomorrow, how many games would the Raiders win this year & next with Russell starting every game for the next 2 seasons???

    The barbershop I go to, I’ve never seen “brohawks”. They don’t do weaves or Konks, or any other of that shyt. So save your concern for your own piss-poor podunk community, ok?
    —————————
    If Al died tomorrow, I think the Raiders would do no worse this season than they already are.

    Next year they win 8 as they recover from years of dysfunction.

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    Kell, Davis will be gone soon enough. He doesn’t have money.

  • RaiderRockstar

    McCown > Russell

  • LA to TheBay

    No More Infield or Trolls Says:
    October 2nd, 2009 at 12:25 pm
    Mista brown noser – take your right wing crap comments to glen(alchoholic) beck or Rush (pill popper) limburgers blog. this is a place to bash our football team…

    Just noticed this due to the jumbling of the posts (Jerry).

    LMAO at “this is a place to bash our football team…”

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    This is hilarious! A lot of you guys hated Kiffin for using McCown, a more west coast type who favors more high percentage passes, instead of playing Russell or Culpepper. Now you guys are calling for Gradkowski and Frye, two McCowns, basically. You guys suddenly want to go west coast, after 3 years of longing for putting Russell in and going vertical. Welcome to reality.

  • LA to TheBay

    “hahaa…yeah but we know that Tebow’s butt hole is still a virgin.”

    I bet there was a priest that was just too friendly somewhere along the lines and Tebow seems impressionable.

    I’m gonna have to sell on that one…

  • Florida Pete

    Florida Pete Says:
    October 2nd, 2009 at 12:38 pm
    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    October 2nd, 2009 at 12:40 pm
    # DMAC Says:
    October 2nd, 2009 at 12:13 pm

    Tebow= Young white version of Vick w/o the criminal history

    …….

    You’re a racist and an idiot.

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    hmmm… let me see if i can help…

    Tebow= Young, small peckered version of Vick w/o the criminal history

  • Damn They Suck

    do you have a link to an article that can verify that Real Madden Raider…hope you are right in that assessment.

  • DMAC

    How am I a racist? He’s white isn’t he???
    Just STFU!

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    RockStar, if Al Davis died tomorrow, we’d probably win 9 games this year. First thing Cable would do is fire John Marshall and bring in a more modern defensive coordinator with more versatile schemes, something you have to have in today’s NFL. I’m guessing we wouldn’t be throwing deep from our own end zone anymore, either. I did not see the same playcalling last week as I did the first two weeks. Al’s meddling is killing this team. The sooner Al Davis dies, as you put it, the sooner we start to win. FACT.

  • RaiderRockstar

    if Al Davis died tomorrow, JaMarcus Russell would be cut tomorrow.

    so whoever loves Russell and has dreams of Al kicking the bucket and JR soaring like an eagle is just delusional. JaWalrus wouldn’t start for any other team in the league.

  • El Negro Cato

    # Florida Pete Says:
    October 2nd, 2009 at 12:47 pm

    Florida Pete Says:
    October 2nd, 2009 at 12:38 pm
    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    October 2nd, 2009 at 12:40 pm
    # DMAC Says:
    October 2nd, 2009 at 12:13 pm

    Tebow= Young white version of Vick w/o the criminal history

    …….

    You’re a racist and an idiot.

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    hmmm… let me see if i can help…

    Tebow= Young, small peckered version of Vick w/o the criminal history
    ——————–

    hahaa…yeah but we know that Tebow’s butt hole is still a virgin. Can’t say the same for Vick.

  • http://www.car.org KoolKell

    If Davis died tomorrow, the Coaches would be able to work off the run-game. Instead of forcing the Deep-ball to Bey, to make Davis look good.

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    El Negro, truthfully, we really don’t know if Tebow’s butt hole is still a virgin. Considering all of the bible thumpers that have been outed in recent years?

  • http://RAIDERS Oakglenn

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    October 2nd, 2009 at 12:45 pm

    This is hilarious! A lot of you guys hated Kiffin for using McCown, a more west coast type who favors more high percentage passes, instead of playing Russell or Culpepper. Now you guys are calling for Gradkowski and Frye, two McCowns, basically. You guys suddenly want to go west coast, after 3 years of longing for putting Russell in and going vertical. Welcome to reality.
    =================================================

    Actually maddenraider I think we are beginning to see who the real zeroes are in all of this. Russell throws 2 pix in the last game, yet throws them where they should be thrown and the sh** rain boos down on him and Raider “fan” wants him gone. Before him, McCown comes in to run Kiffins offense, completes 6 straight passes to start his Raider career, the 7th falls incomplete, and the sh** rain boos come down onto him. Before him, Kerry Collins gets booed off the field by Raider “fan” in the Black Hole, and yet last year posted a 13-4 record losing to Baltimore in the playoffs. And I can keep going here for the previous twenty years. Now Raider fan wants to bench Russell and put in a guy who in his last NFL start was 7 for 21 for 26 yards, and 3 PIX!! for a 2.6 passer rating. I think it is Raider fan who has reached a new low.

  • TrueRaider

    # Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    Where did you get this fantasy? If by “our own” you mean first round picks, lets reminisce:
    Fabian Washington? Gave up on him.
    Philip Buchanon? Gave up on him.
    Tyler Brayton? Gave up on him.
    Napolean Harris? Gave up on him. Twice.
    Derrick Gibson? Gave up on him.
    Matt Stinchcomb? Gave up on him.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Well, Fabian is a starter with the Ravens.
    Brayton is a starter with the Panthers even though they have a second round pick in the bench Everette whom they gave up a first round for next year. Buchanon is in detroit. Stinchcomb is retired.
    Gibson and Harris are the only ones who really sucked not to find jobs in this league. I will be honest with u, it is the scheme, some CBs play cover 2 in college only to find themselves man to man in Oakland. Al Davis scheme sometimes dont fit with top picks players.

  • MTraidernation

    THIS TEAM HAS THE TALENT TO MAKE A PLAYOFF PUSH!!!!
    GET GARCIA BACK, SIT RUSSELL SO HE CAN SEE HOW A REAL PROFESSIONAL PLAYER WINS GAMES. SAY WHAT YOU WILL ABOUT GARCIA, BUT HE’S A WINNER. RUSSELL IS APPROACHING RYAN LEAF STATUS. HE’S AWFUL!!

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    # LA to TheBay Says:
    October 2nd, 2009 at 12:47 pm

    I bet there was a priest that was just too friendly somewhere along the lines and Tebow seems impressionable.

    ….

    Exactly what I’m thinking.

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    # DMAC Says:
    October 2nd, 2009 at 12:47 pm

    How am I a racist? He’s white isn’t he???
    Just STFU!

    ……

    Nothing worse than a racist trying to rationalize their racism. Go back to your shed, moron.

  • El Negro Cato

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    October 2nd, 2009 at 12:54 pm

    El Negro, truthfully, we really don’t know if Tebow’s butt hole is still a virgin. Considering all of the bible thumpers that have been outed in recent years?
    ————

    Maybe that’s what went wrong with JaSphincter, too. They do some strange things down south…

  • El Negro Cato

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    October 2nd, 2009 at 1:04 pm

    El Negro, I doubt anything like that has ever happened to Russell. He’s not the best QB I’ve ever seen but he looks like he can hold his own in the real world, and wouldn’t let himself be a victim of something like that. Tebow’s another story.
    ————-

    I bet that JaWalruss is a big pushover. Most people that are big can’t fight worth a darn. Have you seen what Shaq looks like then he’s thrown a punch? He hits like a 13 y/o girl. To fight good takes training, practice, dedication, and you have to develop good footwork, too. That sounds a lot like learning to play QB.

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    El Negro, I doubt anything like that has ever happened to Russell. He’s not the best QB I’ve ever seen but he looks like he can hold his own in the real world, and wouldn’t let himself be a victim of something like that. Tebow’s another story.

  • El Negro Cato

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    October 2nd, 2009 at 1:07 pm

    Also, El Negro, I don’t think Vick’s a punk, either. And therefore, I’m willing to bet his number 2 hole remains exit only, despite his prison stint. I think you’re kind of confused as to how things work in prison.

    ————

    Got some first hand experience you would like to share?

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    Also, El Negro, I don’t think Vick’s a punk, either. And therefore, I’m willing to bet his number 2 hole remains exit only, despite his prison stint. I think you’re kind of confused as to how things work in prison.

  • The Big Banana

    # El Negro Cato Says:
    October 2nd, 2009 at 1:04 pm

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    October 2nd, 2009 at 1:07 pm

    Also, El Negro, I don’t think Vick’s a punk, either. And therefore, I’m willing to bet his number 2 hole remains exit only, despite his prison stint. I think you’re kind of confused as to how things work in prison.

    ————

    Got some first hand experience you would like to share?
    =================================================
    LOL….

  • The Big Banana

    If Davis died tomorrow, we might get a real GM, who might get a real head coach, who would probably go get a real QB.

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    Kell, it’s hilarious when these guys try to say that if Davis died tomorrow, it wouldn’t make any difference. Are you kidding me? It would make a world of difference. I don’t wish death on anyone but if Davis did die, this team would improve immediately. Marshall gone. Cable is new school, zone blocking schemes, I’m thinking he’d like to see more zone blitzing on defense. He’d bring in a completely new DC and a completely new scheme with him. No more forcing the deep ball. Throwing deep from the end zone, forcing it to Bey, has Davis’s signature all over it. Basically, if Davis died tomorrow, we’d look how we looked the first two weeks. Not great, but competitive. With Davis alive, we’ll see more of what we saw against Denver.

  • Plunketthead

    You two need to get a room to discuss sphinctors

  • RaiderRockstar

    Higgins says he will play at Houston and he so wants his first catch of the season … and the second, and the third, and …

    “I just want the ball,” said Higgins, who led all Raider receivers in receptions and yards last season. “That’s it. If I could give myself the ball every time, I would. When I do get the ball, I’m just like, ‘I’m gonna make a play, I’ve got to make the play.’ That’s just my mentality.”

    Does he say as much to Russell in the huddle?

    “I don’t say nothing because the thing is you don’t want to get a quarterback mad at you. You don’t want to look like you’re a pouting receiver or anything like that. I just say when I do get the ball, I’m going to show you what I got.”

    -David White (SF Gate)

  • RaiderRockstar

    new post barack worshippers.

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    El Negro, no, I don’t have any experience with the prison system. But anyone who thinks Vick is a punk while Tebow is a super hero who could never be raped obviously doesn’t have the high ground to question anyone’s expertise, either. To be honest with you, Tebow’s character and personality fits the profile of just about every bible thumper I’ve ever seen on t.v. who’s been outed.

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    # El Negro Cato Says:
    October 2nd, 2009 at 1:04 pm

    ————-

    I bet that JaWalruss is a big pushover. Most people that are big can’t fight worth a darn. Have you seen what Shaq looks like then he’s thrown a punch? He hits like a 13 y/o girl. To fight good takes training, practice, dedication, and you have to develop good footwork, too. That sounds a lot like learning to play QB.

    ……..

    OMG…El Negro’s so tough, guys. He’s claiming he can beat up Shaq… I’ve never been more scared.

  • TrueRaider

    Oakglenn Says:
    Actually maddenraider I think we are beginning to see who the real zeroes are in all of this. Russell throws 2 pix in the last game, yet throws them where they should be thrown and the sh** rain boos down on him and Raider “fan” wants him gone. Before him, McCown comes in to run Kiffins offense, completes 6 straight passes to start his Raider career, the 7th falls incomplete, and the sh** rain boos come down onto him. Before him, Kerry Collins gets booed off the field by Raider “fan” in the Black Hole, and yet last year posted a 13-4 record losing to Baltimore in the playoffs. And I can keep going here for the previous twenty years. Now Raider fan wants to bench Russell and put in a guy who in his last NFL start was 7 for 21 for 26 yards, and 3 PIX!! for a 2.6 passer rating. I think it is Raider fan who has reached a new low.
    ========================================================

    Dude, go ahead and keep your positive attitude. This team has been losing for 6 SEASONS. Russell sucks, worst QB in the league. Ok, you seem like a youngster so I will talk to you like a kid, very simple.

    What happened the year after JR, Bowe, Davis all left LSU to the NFL, LSU WON THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP, they lost their best QB, two Wide Recievers Safety etc and they still won more games and national title. That tells me Russel was a system QB not talent, just like Urban Meyers when he coached Utah and made Alex Smth the best QB, same way with JR he is just a system QB. If Al Davis never drafted him he would have fallen the same way Brady Quinn fell who was considered a top 10 talent and better then JR who showed up out of shape and didnt care abt his work ethic while Brady was benching more than running backs. My point is there was signs that this dude is not worth the first overall pick, but Al was fell in love with the prayer throw kneeling down for 70 yards and never noticed that he never took a snap from the center. LSU had top defense and still they ended up with in the Sugar bowl against a Notre idiots who is coached by fat idiot coach.

    Ok here is another factor, check out the games JR struggled against, those defenses resembled NFL defenses.
    This 2006
    Against Auburn no TDs 57.1 Pct
    Against Florida 1 td 3 INT 58 PCT

    This 2005
    Against Tennesse 158 1 int 50 Pct
    Against Auburn 190 1 td 48.5 Pct
    Against Alabama 229 1 td 53.3 Pct
    Against Arkansas 194 1 td 44.8 Pct

    Dude check the facts then talk, don’t just blame us the fans, especially the ones who are smart enough to put you on check. I think the Real MR always says its Al davis that is reason we are losing for 6 seasons.

  • djohnnyg

    We need someone intelligent at the QB position. Look at Ja-idiots statement. It doesn’t even make any sense. He’s just throwing random cliche’s together that he’s probably heard from watching post game interviews on ESPN, but not putting them in any understandable order. He’s just a very dumb person. Jadumbas makes Terry Bradshaw look like the smartest guy in football history.