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Postgame wrap

News, notes and observations from the Raiders’ 29-6 loss Sunday to the Texans in Houston:

– So you want Tom Cable’s head on a platter. Al Davis, given his track record, is on some level probably considering the same thing.

There goes your head coach, offensive coordinator, play caller, and de facto line coach, gone in an instant, and a new victim served up on the road to the New York Giants.

Now what?

Your suggestions, of course, are welcome and encouraged.

– The Raiders defense made a lot of plays on the other side of the line of scrimmage. They had four sacks with their beloved natural four-man pressure.

Absolve the defense from the blame for Sunday’s loss would be to shrug of offensive yardage on the “explosive plays” Cable talked about following last week’s 23-3 loss to Denver. He describes an explosive play as any run of 11 yards or more and any pass play of 16 yards or more.

In the first half, Houston had runs of 11, 11 and 32 yards from running back Steve Slaton, the last one for a touchdown. Ryan Moats added a 12-yard run. That’s four rushes for 77 yards.

Meanwhile quarterback Matt Schaub had a 62-yard completion to Andre Johnson, 41 yards to Ken Walter, 44 to Owen Daniels, 18 to Slaton (for a touchdown) and 17 yards to Joel Dreessen. That’s five completions for 182 yards.

All told, that’s nine plays totaling 259 yards _ 28.8 yards per snap during a half in which the Texans took command of the game with a 20-6 lead.

All that happened before the Raiders should have been worn out by the offensive struggles, so pay little mind to the “on the field for too many snaps” talk. Most of the damage occurred when they should have been relatively fresh.

Yes, the Raiders held Houston to 47 net yards in the second half. But there was more than a little 2006 in that figure, with the Texans killing the clock and keeping it conservative, secure in the knowledge the Raiders weren’t going to score if they played until Tuesday. With that in mind, Cable’s crediting the defense for the second half performance rings hollow.

Did the Raiders get physically pushed around? No, but they blew enough coverages and assignments to make things far too easy for Houston.

– Justin Miller didn’t get outside the 20-yard line until his third kickoff return. Jacoby Jones returned a booming Shane Lechler free kick 95 yards for a touchdown. The Raiders gave up a first down for having 12 defenders on the field for a Houston punt. Johnnie Lee Higgins returned one punt for a minus-3 yards and then essentially a drop-kicked one to the Texans on his final return.

On the opening kickoff, Sebastian Janikowski’s onsides kick attempt was recovered by Houston, and a later pooch attempt set up the Texans with good field position. Seabass converted two more field goal attempts and hasn’t missed this season, and Shane Lechler punted for a 53.4 average and a 45.9 net, pinning Houston inside the 20 three times. As JaMarcus Russell said earlier this season, sometimes the best play is to throw it out of pounds and turn it over to your all-pro punter.

– These are Russell’s first four games _ 12-for-30, 208 yards, 1 TD; 7-for-24, 109 yards, 0 TDs; 12-for-21, 61 yards, 0 TDs; 12-for-33-128, 0 TDs. He’s got four interceptions. Time for one of those stats services to determine if a quarterback has ever hard four worse games and retained his starting job. He’s throwing it out of bounds and giving it back to Lechler far more than anyone intended.

Russell was 6-for-20 to wide receivers. The Raiders have gone eight quarters without a touchdown.

Pick a maligned Raiders QB of your choice _ Marc Wilson, Todd Marinovich, Donald Hollas, Kerry Collins _ and try and find four worse games played consecutively. Collins looks like Dan Marino about now by comparison.

Since the Raiders dropped by Cable’s count nine balls, it’s not as if Russell got a lot of help. It may have been _ gulp _ his best game. That’s how low the standards are at this point.

– It’s officially open season on the Raiders strategy to go heavy on the passing all through training camp, convinced that their running game would be just fine.

After a nice first half in the season opener against San Diego . . . pffft.

The Raiders bottomed out running the ball against Houston, gaining 45 yards on 22 carries, with 20 of those yards coming on a 20-yard reverse by Darrius Heyward-Bey, who more than doubled his season offensive output on consecutive first half plays when he had an 18-yard catch preceding the run.

Or try it this way _ remove the Heyward-Bey reverse, as well as a 7-yard loss by Louis Murphy on a reverse, and take away the 13 meaningless yards by Justin Fargas to kill the clock in the first half and the Raiders had 18 yards on 18 carries.

Fargas got his most extensive time (his violent running was supposed to be a spark) and he had 24 yards on 10 carries. Michael Bush had 10 yards on three carries and lost a fumble after catching a screen pass. Darren McFadden, who had three fumbles last week, lost three yards on six carries, had no gain longer than four yards, and appeared to have his “lead back” status stripped because of ineffectiveness.

The Raiders were 2-for-15 converting third downs and their possession chart (not including the end of the first half) read punt, punt, field goal, punt, punt, field goal, punt, fumble, safety, punt, punt, downs, fumble, punt.

– Yes, the above statistics are evidence the offensive line had its worst day, with converted tackle left Erik Pears getting the worst of it at Robert Gallery’s left guard spot.

“I don’t think we blocked anybody, we’ve got to say it like it is,” Cable said. “We didn’t play well up front offensively.”

– Even through the frozen pixels and stop-and-start status of my home DirecTV, it was one of the more active games from defensive tackle Tommy Kelly that I can remember. Sure enough, he finished with 13 tackles (nine tackles and four assists).

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  • raiderrej

    at the Eagles game, everyone should chant… Al Davis Sucks!!!

  • Brien the General

    All an empty stadium means to him is getting in and out of the facility quicker. He could care less. He has more important things to be concerned about like proving his way of doing things are the way things should be done. Speed, man on man coverage, and the vertical game will prevail.
    ***************************

    JB, who the hell is going to take the Raiders? Answer than one. Name the city who will deal with Al Davis. I’m listening

  • raiderrej

    Charlie Says:
    October 4th, 2009 at 7:13 pm
    I know many of you wanted to draft Dmac and would have drafted Crabtree so let’s knock off the BS.

    You know who you are and you grossly underestimated the pathetic nature of BOTH lines.
    Deal with it.

    We got Seymour beacuse our Dline was embarrassing.
    Our Oline has been this bad for years but everyone wanted to blame the coach.

    Build the lines in the draft or die

    =======================

    Great idea… Just like the billions of ideas we’ve had on this blog and all other Raider Blogs… Point is that the fans are tired of whats happening with our team and Al Davis will not listen to any of us! Al Davis has a different vision for his football team, something that we are forced to agree with i.e. DHB pick. I just wish we had someone in the building that would make better decisions for this team.

    Trust me, just like many of us here, I am a season ticket holder in a time were attending football games are a luxury and a gamble when budgeting. Buying into a product for the mere joy of wining. Then it all backfires and Im looking for a refund because I feel that we as fans put a lot at stake here not only financially but emotionally as well. And now I am spent on both aspects.

  • davidon

    I stopped watching last year, cancelled DirecTV but still follow whats going on. I think the Giants should stack 11 in the box just to see if fatso could hit a target or if the receivers could catch a ball.

  • Brien the General

    # raidercirca70 Says:
    October 4th, 2009 at 7:06 pm

    Brien the general you are truly a stupid racist piece of s..t. Get a life or at least a job. Way too much time posting ignorance, your comments have nothing to do with football. Some black or brown people must have beat that ass. Don’t worry you’re safe behind your keyboard.
    ***************************

    Yawwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn. Very lame. Go bake a pie woman. Maybe because you are a newbie punk but I’m not white. Hard to understand that huh?

    And further more, I talk football more than anything else. You are just a little sensitive wimp and cant take the truth. But you know how to take the d—.

    As for get a job nonsense……..I have one and the women of your family pay well for my services.

  • alisgod

    wow the chokers are getting their arse kicked. If Dallas would stop acting like a bunch of idiots it would have been a good consolation prize for losing today.

  • riderm

    Slow down, you’re posting to fast….what the hell is that about!?!?!

  • Brien the General

    # raiderrej Says:
    October 4th, 2009 at 7:14 pm

    at the Eagles game, everyone should chant… Al Davis Sucks!!!
    ******************

    Not a bad idea. Too bad that old man scares the hell out of everyone

  • raiderrej

    Brien The General Says:
    October 4th, 2009 at 7:22 pm
    # raiderrej Says:
    October 4th, 2009 at 7:14 pm

    at the Eagles game, everyone should chant… Al Davis Sucks!!!
    ******************

    Not a bad idea. Too bad that old man scares the hell out of everyone

    ===========
    I wonder if i’d be escorted out of the game… Anyway, I’ll start the chant… Im in SEC 109 row 25

  • Dude

    Charlie,

    You stated the Raiders drafted well in the last 3 years. How so?

  • Brien the General

    # davidon Says:
    October 4th, 2009 at 7:19 pm

    I stopped watching last year, cancelled DirecTV but still follow whats going on. I think the Giants should stack 11 in the box just to see if fatso could hit a target or if the receivers could catch a ball.
    ********************

    He is going 9 for 27 115 yards 3 ints against NY and wont get benched

  • Charlie

    As I have said there is hope.
    Mr Davis got Seymour because he was told that our Dline could not compete. We at least are respectable on the Dline. (Warren will be gone next year as will his $5mill a year salary. What a joke).

    Without Gallery our Oline can not compete.

    We draft Oilne help in 2010. The problem is we need to go through another didaster of a season.
    Gallery and Schillens returning will help but Carlisle, Green, Pears and Barnes were all available at no charge for a reason.
    Way too many holes which slows the development of JR DHB and Dmac.

    Rememeber how Ted Ginn and CJ with Detroit did their rookie years. WR’s are an extravagance that will help after an Oline is assembled and not before.

  • Brien the General

    Free Norco Bob! Free Norco Bob! Free Norco Bob!. Wish he was still allowed in here. He would rip Russell a new one.

    Big damn dummy needs to cut that queer eye for the straight guy mohawk and look like a man. Not some little skinny jean skater idiot

  • JB

    # Brien the General Says:
    October 4th, 2009 at 7:14 pm

    All an empty stadium means to him is getting in and out of the facility quicker. He could care less. He has more important things to be concerned about like proving his way of doing things are the way things should be done. Speed, man on man coverage, and the vertical game will prevail.
    ***************************

    JB, who the hell is going to take the Raiders? Answer than one. Name the city who will deal with Al Davis. I’m listening
    ****************************
    Not sure I understand your question. No one in their right mind would want to deal with AD. Unfortunately there are a lot of politicians out there with different agendas who are more than willing to spend money that isn’t theirs. That’s how we got the Raiders back in Oakland. The city and taxpayers took a real screwing on that deal. And, look what we got for it. a team that has no hope with the current team leadership. a team that we used to be proud of, before the exodus to LA, but now the joke of the league. Getting the Raiders back has been a cruel joke with little hope of improvement.

  • Brien the General

    # Charlie Says:
    October 4th, 2009 at 7:32 pm

    As I have said there is hope.
    Mr Davis got Seymour because he was told that our Dline could not compete. We at least are respectable on the Dline. (Warren will be gone next year as will his $5mill a year salary. What a joke).

    Without Gallery our Oline can not compete.

    We draft Oilne help in 2010. The problem is we need to go through another didaster of a season.
    Gallery and Schillens returning will help but Carlisle, Green, Pears and Barnes were all available at no charge for a reason.
    Way too many holes which slows the development of JR DHB and Dmac.

    Rememeber how Ted Ginn and CJ with Detroit did their rookie years. WR’s are an extravagance that will help after an Oline is assembled and not before.
    ******************************

    We are not drafting a Olineman or Dlineman in the first round. Russell develop? That will never happen. Ted Ginn and CJ were highly productive players in college.

  • Thec07

    Just peeped in, enjoying the chargers gettin dismantled….

    The only way you fix this franchise is turn the ORGANIZATION upside down and fire everyone….
    Including the owner….

  • jhill

    The Raiders have never recovered from what LA did to them.

    ——————————————————

    Now that is the funniest LA reference you have come up with to date!

    LMFAO!

    I think I’ve heard it all now. Al, JRuss, and now the city of Los Angeles.

  • Brien the General

    JB………..really that is the root of all problems. When the team left to go to LA it went downhill. Sure the 83 team won a title but that was mostly guys who were from the 1980 Oakland team. The Raiders have never recovered from what LA did to them. Team is soft and cant compete

  • raiderrej

    Brien The General Says:
    October 4th, 2009 at 7:38 pm
    Schilens and Gallery wont help a damn thing. Team is shot and have tossed the white towel in

    ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;

    totally agree… cant wait till the bloggers come out with the “if Chaz” or “if Gallery” was here… total bull!

  • Brien the General

    Schilens and Gallery wont help a damn thing. Team is shot and have tossed the white towel in

  • Thec07

    Just peeped in, enjoying the chargers gettin dismantled….

    The only way you fix this franchise is turn the ORGANIZATION upside down and fire everyone….
    Including the owner….

    Old sckool 70′s football doesnt cut it in the 2k’s

  • JB

    #

    # Brien the General Says:
    October 4th, 2009 at 7:37 pm

    JB………..really that is the root of all problems. When the team left to go to LA it went downhill. Sure the 83 team won a title but that was mostly guys who were from the 1980 Oakland team. The Raiders have never recovered from what LA did to them. Team is soft and cant compete
    ****************
    Totally agree. That and senility set in and there you have it an organization controlled by a 5150.

    There’s a merchandising idea. A Silver & Black jersey with Al Davis on the back with the number 5150. That would look great on TV. That WOULD send a message across the network on how we feel. Kind of like the Saint’s Aint’s paper bag hats. A memorable approach.

  • Charlie

    Brien

    We have used high draft picks on the line many times and most recently in 2004.
    We will do it again in 2010.

    Guaranteed.

    My point about CJ and Ginn was that they could not help their teams win games.
    DMac,DHB and JR are in the same situation.
    NO Oline-No Offense.

  • Brien the General

    # raiderrej Says:
    October 4th, 2009 at 7:27 pm

    Brien The General Says:
    October 4th, 2009 at 7:22 pm
    # raiderrej Says:
    October 4th, 2009 at 7:14 pm

    at the Eagles game, everyone should chant… Al Davis Sucks!!!
    ******************

    Not a bad idea. Too bad that old man scares the hell out of everyone

    ===========
    I wonder if i’d be escorted out of the game… Anyway, I’ll start the chant… Im in SEC 109 row 25
    ****************************

    Why waste a good beautiful Sunday Rej? Go to a game in December. Holidays and football are fun no matter what. I’ll go later inthe years. Washington and Baltimore games I’ll go to.

  • Nnamdi21

    Same ole story.

    Offense suggs

  • Brien the General

    # Charlie Says:
    October 4th, 2009 at 7:42 pm

    Brien

    We have used high draft picks on the line many times and most recently in 2004.
    We will do it again in 2010.

    Guaranteed.

    My point about CJ and Ginn was that they could not help their teams win games.
    DMac,DHB and JR are in the same situation.
    NO Oline-No Offense.
    *****************************

    First off Norv Turner convinced Al to get a OL in 2004. Al wanted Roy Williams that year. We should have got Sean Taylor.

    Russell sucks man. DHB and Dmac suffer because of Russell sucking.

    We aint drafting an olineman. We will draft Terrence Cody before an OL

  • raideralex909

    brien the dumbass “turn a stud in Darren Mcfadden to a fast back with no confidence” did you ever watch that piece of crap in college what he is now is what he was in college runnin into his linemen,fumbling cant break away from shoe string tackles he is the least talented runninback in the nfl lets see forte,slaton,even moreno from that crappy team broncos get a f***kin life our qb is a fat bust ,im tired of people sayin its growin pains sh*****tt look at flaco,sanchez,ryan he may have a big arm but i doont think he can think like a winnin qb he is not smart eneough they had to dumby down the play callin because he couldnt get im sorry al needs to die,go into a coma or something until he goes away we are goin to be losin 10-11 games a season//brien know your facts

  • alisgod

    Charlie,

    Not sure if they will draft lineman next year but I know for sure they have to address it and cannot ignore any longer. During our 2002 run, we had one of the best Oline in the league. It’s time we find gems like Lincoln Kennedy again. This game is all about the lines.

    The steelers is making mendenhall look great because he got huge holes to run to. Our Oline today was embarrassing. I have a hunch we see henderson, Morris, Satele, Carlisle and Green next week. Pears was awful.

  • JB

    # alisgod Says:
    October 4th, 2009 at 7:47 pm

    The steelers is making mendenhall look great because he got huge holes to run to. Our Oline today was embarrassing. I have a hunch we see henderson, Morris, Satele, Carlisle and Green next week. Pears was awful.
    *******************
    So what you are saying is more of the same schit. Morris, Satelle, Carlisle and Green were also awful. Pears just set the standard. Why is he even on the team? You mean we can’t find better talent than this anywhere in the US? It’s time to hold some public tryouts at the Collesium on Monday. We can probably find better prospects on the streets of Oakland.

  • alisgod

    I think its time Cable gives up playcalling to Hackett or Tollner. Cable can better save his time for motivating the team throughout the game. I like Cable but I am not a big believer in his playcalling. I’ve been calling for a DHB reverese since day 1 aqnd it took him 4 games to get one in. Sure enough dHB gets 20.

  • Thec07

    You guys like to argue about the small points which is cool.

    THE RAIDERS FRANCHISED IS FU@KED UP>>>>>>>

    WE WONT WIN UNTILL ALL THE LACKEYS AND YES MEN ARE GONE…

  • Brien the General

    # jhill Says:
    October 4th, 2009 at 7:37 pm

    The Raiders have never recovered from what LA did to them.

    ——————————————————

    Now that is the funniest LA reference you have come up with to date!

    LMFAO!

    I think I’ve heard it all now. Al, JRuss, and now the city of Los Angeles.
    *****************************

    Sorry Jhill but those are the facts. I know you are from SoCal and you dont want to accept it but its the truth. Raiders lost their identity in that smogged out fake plastic society. Al went even crazier down there and thus led to wild schit and drafting a simpleton QB with limited brain power named Jamarcus Russell. It is a long line of things that have happened. Al is main guy responsible but Russell does suck man. Stop excusing Russell.

  • El Dirty

    This team needs a lot of help. The offense is bad at every position except TE. So tired of watching Green get a false start every game! Always on a 2 minute pressure drill ALWAYS! Who can fix that O not cable. He needs so go back to the line. His play calling is awful. Beyond Awful… Is this going to be another 1-15 season?

  • Thec07

    Oh and i forgot fir the 80 year old X’s and O’s guy, stuck in a time warp……

    2k’s football > 70′s football

  • Charlie

    This team is being built along the lines of the Cowboys in the late 80′s.

    Aikman was 1-15 his rookie year and looked bad doing it. There Oline was worse than the Raiders.

    They had Smith, Aikman and Irvin but did not start winning until they drafted DT Russell Maryland in round one.

    Unfortunately this is year three of a five year project that started with drafting JR.

  • JB

    JaMarcus Russell, the Sarah Palin of the NF3.

  • raiderrej

    Brien The General Says:
    October 4th, 2009 at 7:44 pm
    # Charlie Says:
    October 4th, 2009 at 7:42 pm

    Brien

    We have used high draft picks on the line many times and most recently in 2004.
    We will do it again in 2010.

    Guaranteed.

    My point about CJ and Ginn was that they could not help their teams win games.
    DMac,DHB and JR are in the same situation.
    NO Oline-No Offense.
    *****************************

    First off Norv Turner convinced Al to get a OL in 2004. Al wanted Roy Williams that year. We should have got Sean Taylor.

    Russell sucks man. DHB and Dmac suffer because of Russell sucking.

    We aint drafting an olineman. We will draft Terrence Cody before an OL

    ===================

    its 4 games into the season and we’re already talking about the draft…lol i love it!

  • Brien the General

    # raideralex909 Says:
    October 4th, 2009 at 7:45 pm

    brien the dumbass “turn a stud in Darren Mcfadden to a fast back with no confidence” did you ever watch that piece of crap in college what he is now is what he was in college runnin into his linemen,fumbling cant break away from shoe string tackles he is the least talented runninback in the nfl lets see forte,slaton,even moreno from that crappy team broncos get a f***kin life our qb is a fat bust ,im tired of people sayin its growin pains sh*****tt look at flaco,sanchez,ryan he may have a big arm but i doont think he can think like a winnin qb he is not smart eneough they had to dumby down the play callin because he couldnt get im sorry al needs to die,go into a coma or something until he goes away we are goin to be losin 10-11 games a season//brien know your facts
    ******************************

    49er X-lax……….yawwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnn go play in traffic kid. Grown ups are talking. I’ve been saying Russell sucks you dumb ass. Quote me on something I actually said. See who said that about Dmac with no confidence. Dumb ass

  • Brien the General

    Rej, what the hell is the draft gonna mean? No one will do a damn thing in Oakland. Al is gonna be Al and he will outlive all of us

  • Thec07

    I cant talk about the players but this franchise is the laughinstock of all pro sports….

  • Brien the General

    Dmac the least talented back in the NFL? Ok Alexis it is time for you to help us all out in this world and commit suicide. Your family will be finally happy.

  • jhill

    Russell???

    When did he get a pass?

    But with that said, Al drafted JRuss instead of AP because of Los Angeles? Ok, man, whatever, lol!

    You can have that one. Don’t even want to get into that one.

  • Brien the General

    # Thec07 Says:
    October 4th, 2009 at 7:51 pm

    I cant talk about the players but this franchise is the laughinstock of all pro sports….
    **********************

    Same as Palma Ceia now lol

  • jhill

    Russell sucks man. DHB and Dmac suffer because of Russell sucking.

    —————————————————-

    Crazy talk.

    DHB is bad because, well, he’s just not good. See, it’s not that hard. Just as easy to say if Russell hit him with a few more passes, he’s have a few more drops. I counted 3 drops today from that guy alone.

    DMac has nowhere to run when his C and G are 2 yds BEHIND the LOS. It also doesn’t help that he only got the ball 3 or 4 times. Of course, Cable might have a bit more confidence in him if he held on to the ball. I will say that McFadden has run the ball well when holes are there for him to hit. But he’s GOT to hold on to the rock, and gawd damn a few less shoe string tackles would be nice.

  • Brien the General

    # jhill Says:
    October 4th, 2009 at 7:54 pm

    Russell???

    When did he get a pass?

    But with that said, Al drafted JRuss instead of AP because of Los Angeles? Ok, man, whatever, lol!

    You can have that one. Don’t even want to get into that one.
    *************************

    Jhill, the LA move started a succession of idiotic Al moves.

  • Thec07

    Brien the General Says:
    October 4th, 2009 at 7:54 pm
    # Thec07 Says:
    October 4th, 2009 at 7:51 pm

    I cant talk about the players but this franchise is the laughinstock of all pro sports….
    **********************

    Same as Palma Ceia now lol

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    ROFLMAO…..agreed….

    But you stupid for that one……LOL

  • Brien the General

    You said Russell played okay today Jhill. That is giving that fat punk a pass. He was awful.

  • Brien the General

    Thec………..am I lying?

  • Brien the General

    Jhill, c-walk c-walk c-walk crip gangsta n-ggaz do you dance lol.

    You still my patna though lol

  • Brien the General

    Its all good. We will be in here next sunday discussing another debacle by Russell. Misery loves company. Come on in