Raiders look everywhere but Russell
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Sunday, October 4th, 2009 at 8:14 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Once the company line gets rolling, it’s like trying to stop a ocean liner on a dime.
Sounds as if JaMarcus Russell could have led the Raiders to victory Sunday if his receivers had held on to a few more passes instead of absorbing a 29-6 loss to the Houston Texans.
“I thought he played his best football all year in terms of where he is going with it and his presence and all of those things,” Raiders coach Tom Cable told reporters after the game. “He got sacked a couple of times and was hit a number of times.”
Cable said he counted nine dropped passes, and it’s conceivable that nine balls did touch the hands of receivers which weren’t caught. Whether they were thrown on time and gave receivers the best chance to make a play is another question entirely.
“That’s the difference, you know,” wide receiver Louis Murphy said. “That’s the difference. You’ve got to come down with those balls. JaMarcus, he’s throwing good balls, man, and we’ve got to make those plays to give our offense a spark.”
Russell, who like his coach and teammates has been quick to point out he’s far from the only problem, was asked how much the drops affected his performance and said, “A lot. When we are trying to stay on course . . . I don’t pay too much mind while it’s happening but as it goes on it’s a lot back down deep inside. I know you have to keep guys with confidence. Keep coming at them; keep throwing the ball to them. That’s the only way it will get better.”
Asked if the drops bother him, Russell said, “It does. We had a lot of game left from the beginning but once it comes dow to the ending moment, you always sit back and think what you could have done differently. I think that is one of the things we come out with today.”
Russell (12-for-33 for 128 yards) said he thought he played well, “but obviously it wasn’t good enough. I really thought I got some things done out there. Whatever it takes for us to win, I guess I must play better.”
Some more postgame news, notes and quotes:
– Tight end Zach Miller sustained a concussion – he was hammered on back-to-back plays late in the game — and there’s no word if he’ll be ready to face the New York Giants as the Raiders take on a 4-0 team on the road.
– Murphy is either in denial or plans on pulling the Raiders up to the standard of winning achieved at Florida, insisting with a raised voice in the locker room that the Raiders were “really good” and suggesting fans not believe what the media says about them. (Like, for instance, that they’re 1-3 this season, 25-75 over their last 100 games and haven’t scored a touchdown in the last eight quarters).
– Guard Cooper Carlisle was one offensive player who felt bad for the Raiders defense despite the bounty of big plays they surrendered in the first half (259 yards on nine snaps).
“I do feel like we are out of rhythm, out of sorts from running the ball, Carlisle said. “It’s affecting our team obviously, putting our defense on the field a lot. Kind of wearing them down. So it’s not only affecting us not scoring points, it’s affecting the whole game.”
– A 1-3 record heading into consecutive games against the Giants, Eagles, Jets and Chargers (teams with a combined 11-4 record) before the bye week is daunting enough if you’re coaching under Al Davis.
Then there’s a Yahoo.com report which says an anonymous Raiders assistant coach said the staff is wondering who the head coach will be if Cable is suspended.
Cable’s got two problems if he were to be arrested and disciplined by the league and the legal system is only one of them. The other is if the team steams into the bye week at 1-7, the two issues combined would give Davis all the reason he would need to make two in-season firings in two years — a first even for him.
When asked about the legal situation involving his coaches at the Richard Seymour press conference, Davis distanced himself from it by saying, “I don’t get involved in those things. I don’t know much about it. I don’t expect anything to happen. I hope nothing happens, let’s put it that way. That’s what we don’t need right now.”
Not exactly the sort of “it’s nonsense and Tom Cable is my coach” stance Davis could have taken, and that was before the Raiders had lost a game.
– If nothing else, the Raiders can revel in the fact that while Rich Gannon has no trouble breaking down the weaknesses of the organization, he has no clue about the NFL’s overtime rule.
Post-game locker room quotes furnished by the media relations staff of the Houston Texans
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October 4th, 2009 at 8:19 pm
From the yahoo article on Gannon’s ot gaffe:
“Gannon laughed and apologized for his mistake.”
See the difference?
October 4th, 2009 at 8:21 pm
jhill
the reason murphy get’s a pass is because as a rookie you expect some of those growing pains but he show’s his talent and potential it seems like you can tell he is going to be a good player he just makes some rookie mistakes
dhb on the other hand………
October 4th, 2009 at 8:21 pm
damn san diego within 7
October 4th, 2009 at 8:24 pm
We should just forfeit the NY game.
October 4th, 2009 at 8:26 pm
and the eagles and jets it will give us 4 weeks to get ready for san diego
October 4th, 2009 at 8:26 pm
i still take pleasure in san diego losing i live in the area.
October 4th, 2009 at 8:29 pm
Jerry,
maybe it’s you who have bought into the media/fans line that it’s all Russell’s fault because you seem to blame this one on Russel to. When you drop passes or let the ref stop your momentum it will kill anything you try to get going.
For example, look up what Ray Lewis was ranting about after today’s game against the Pats and even Rodney Harrison called out Brady for it.
For once this year, Russell looked like a decent nfl qb today and the Oline and Receivers played awful.
October 4th, 2009 at 8:32 pm
Yeh, locomotive, we really need SD to lose, to help us with our playoff chances…
October 4th, 2009 at 8:32 pm
For the first time I actually couldn’t bear to watch this team anymore today they were so bad. The defense doesn’t have a chance when the offense is so terrible. Bey is horrible, Mcfadden was garbage and we need to turn to Gradowski at leats he is 2 for 2 on the season!
October 4th, 2009 at 8:36 pm
We need the entire AFC west to go winless from here on out. Then we’ve got a chance. And I emphasize chance.
October 4th, 2009 at 8:36 pm
I live in san diego too. I hate the chargers, I am enjoying this game. Pitt let them back in, and the charger fans got there hopes up only to get dashed…… I was hoping they would punish rivers…
October 4th, 2009 at 8:37 pm
No Mr. It’s always fun to root against teams in your own division. Too bad the cowgurls bent over for Denver today even when they should have won that game after dominating all day.
October 4th, 2009 at 8:37 pm
I dont see this frachise winning much. until we run the team like an NFL ORGANIZAT
October 4th, 2009 at 8:38 pm
Brien is white, thec. I already know. You’re wasting your time.
October 4th, 2009 at 8:38 pm
An NFL ORGANIZATION>>>>
October 4th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 8:38 pm
Brien is white, thec. I already know. You’re wasting your time.
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You are clueless, he went to the same church as i did in the bay……
Try again…
October 4th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
Thec, he went to the same church as you in the bay? Yeh. And I’m married to Beyonce. Call it a night, moron.
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Not going to name call you Mr, but yes he went to Palma Ceia in hayward…..
What have you been drinking again?
Try again…
October 4th, 2009 at 8:40 pm
Until we have a ‘playmaker’ on offense, we will continue to have these games.
October 4th, 2009 at 8:40 pm
alisgod Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 8:29 pm
Jerry,
maybe it’s you who have bought into the media/fans line that it’s all Russell’s fault because you seem to blame this one on Russel to. When you drop passes or let the ref stop your momentum it will kill anything you try to get going.
For example, look up what Ray Lewis was ranting about after today’s game against the Pats and even Rodney Harrison called out Brady for it.
For once this year, Russell looked like a decent nfl qb today and the Oline and Receivers played awful.
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don’t get carried away i wouldn’t say he looked decent better than last week but decent that’s getting carried away imho
October 4th, 2009 at 8:41 pm
Thec07 Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
Thec, he went to the same church as you in the bay? Yeh. And I’m married to Beyonce. Call it a night, moron.
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Not going to name call you Mr, but yes he went to Palma Ceia in hayward…..
What have you been drinking again?
So from now on we can caqll you hova?????
Try again
October 4th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
Thec, he went to the same church as you in the bay? Yeh. And I’m married to Beyonce. Call it a night, moron.
October 4th, 2009 at 8:44 pm
he looked decent as an nfl qb today and I noticed that enough peopel on here thought the same. Ddint say he was great but decent enough.
October 4th, 2009 at 8:47 pm
Jerry if you had a brain you’d be dangerous. Have you ever had a notion to look at our rushing stats?
Get a freakin’ clue Dude you aren’t a fan your supposed to know something. I expect it from these posters, but at least you should have some sort of football accumen. But your hatred for any pick that Mr Davis makes blind the hell out of you. Any dumbell cn se that Russell is struggling. But you’re supposed to understand the game.
WE CAN”T RUN THE FOOTBALL!! addd a struggling young QB and two rookie WR’s and who is the obvious target? do your homework and look beyond the easy target. Do you really think Garcia and (I know that’s who YOU want) can get this mess turned around?
You are clueless, If Cable can’t fix this Oline nothing else matters………….period.
October 4th, 2009 at 8:48 pm
Thec, really? Wow. Ok, he went to the same church as you. Cool. And, you even know the name of the church! Wow. Guess that proves it. I mean, you say you went to the same church as him, and gave the name of the church. That is solid evidence, dude.
October 4th, 2009 at 8:49 pm
Russell looked better, Bey was better, o-line was worse and the play calling was not good, again. Cable needs to get hands-on with o-line, then relenquish play calling to someone more experienced.
October 4th, 2009 at 8:49 pm
Brien’s one serious honkey, Thec. And you’ve got not an ounce of evidence to prove otherwise. So call it a night.
October 4th, 2009 at 8:49 pm
I think the point Jerry was trying to make is the Raiders don’t need to come out and try and defend Russell. Just like they don’t need to come out and try and justify trying to break an NFL rule by banning Gannon.
Really the only thing that Cable and the team should have been saying post game is that there is a lot of work to do in all areas. Do say ANYTHING about ANYTHING. Break out the cliches instead of the company lines, man. This shyt is getting old!
October 4th, 2009 at 8:49 pm
priest, everyone’s clueless except for you, huh? The guy who says we’re going to be good every summer.
October 4th, 2009 at 8:51 pm
Cable said he counted nine dropped passes, and it’ conceivable that nine balls did touch the hands of receivers which weren’t caught. Whether they were thrown on time and gave receivers the best chance to make a play is another question entirely.
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Straight-hater speak. There is a million things that went wrong in this game that Jerry could touch on, instead he debates the “degree” of the drops.
They dropped the F-in ball repeatedly Jerry, it’s not a matter of whether it is “conceivable” or not, it happened.
October 4th, 2009 at 8:51 pm
Nice call Priest. This article by Jerry was absolutely rediculous. Almost as bad as the Gannon article he initially wrote that I called him on it that he ended up putting my points in there afterward.
October 4th, 2009 at 8:52 pm
Jerry if you hat Russell that bad why don’t you just get a hitman like tht moron did the ice skater? Thwoul make fo a great story. Writer attacks QB so his boyfriend can play QB.
October 4th, 2009 at 8:52 pm
I do hope Cable gives up playcalling and just let Tollner or Hackett do it. Cable can spend his time with motivating the line.
October 4th, 2009 at 8:53 pm
AlisGod, you’re so on top of things. I mean, never mind the fact that your football team sucks year after year after year, you really keep local writers on their toes. You’re a hero, to geeks who think Al Davis is god.
October 4th, 2009 at 8:53 pm
it took us 4 games to finally do a dhb reverse and it was a stunning success. 4 games to get DHB to use his speed.
October 4th, 2009 at 8:54 pm
Darren sucks Random Drug Tester, let’s just except it and move on. Has he even broke ONE, just ONE, tackle the last couple of games? No he hasn’t, the first guy to touch him brings him down, and he even compounds it by fumbling.
I hate him, but Fargas deserves to start, no way around it. You could make the case for Bush before he fumbled.
October 4th, 2009 at 8:55 pm
The lack of a running game is killing this team, and Cable is directly responsble. That is his calling card. Get that fixed and we ca start from there.
October 4th, 2009 at 8:55 pm
I agree about barely being able to watch us play today. Yeah the wr dropped a lot of passes but Russel didnt look that great today. The running game is horrible right now. Im shocked rushing was supposed to be a strenght of our team. Every year I keep watching horrible teams rebound with good coaching. Man this is getting ridiculous
October 4th, 2009 at 8:55 pm
Yeh, AlisGod, Cable is definitely listening to your suggestions. And the results are astounding. What did we score, 6 points today? You’re beyond retarded.
October 4th, 2009 at 8:57 pm
We need to draft 5 POWER Olinemen and a run-stuffing MLB.
Then we will be fine.
TD’s for DMAC and Bush, INT’s for Nnamdi, CJ, and Huff.
October 4th, 2009 at 8:57 pm
dont care what no one says defense played solid again. juss a couple of misscommunications on those long passes though but offense is horrible. russell actually did play pretty well and showed mobility. the o-line is horrible though! receivers dropping to many balls! pears and green need to go we are really missin gallery. dont blame mcfadden or bush though they had no room to run and cable’s playcalling is something that i dont want to get into right now because it justs gets me mad.
October 4th, 2009 at 8:58 pm
Mr. I call it like it is. Only a dumba$$ like you would dare challenge me. I mean you the same dude that thought Kitten was the Prophet. The same guy who got vols nation jumping off his bandwagon right now. The same guy that plays to prevent winning. Nice of you to note that 50 yard wildcat call on espn. The sad part is you didnt even watch the game before you opened your mouth. Try watching the game next time and then you wouldnt even bother to mention that play.
Also, It was only 2 weeks ago you were going to buy JR’s Jersey and what happens now. Are you in or out? lmao!!!
October 4th, 2009 at 8:59 pm
# alisgod Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 8:53 pm
it took us 4 games to finally do a dhb reverse and it was a stunning success. 4 games to get DHB to use his speed.
To bad he SLOWED Up!
October 4th, 2009 at 8:59 pm
Mrs.
How many yards did they get on that DHB reverse? Tahnk you very much.
October 4th, 2009 at 9:01 pm
How about our C, LG, RG, or RT making a few blocks so we can see McFadden and Bush get out of the backfield.
October 4th, 2009 at 9:02 pm
Can Javon Walker play? He could catch a ball, I don’t know; maybe run a small inside slant pattern for 6 now and then? Hows about JLH, he said he wants the ball, just not trying to field a punt late in games that don’t count. And I really wonder about Barnes and Satele? Their kinda spendy players, maybe they can step up cuz, O-line is pretty ‘nilla. DMC, Huggy bear and Bush are good backs, I’ve seen it, but their playcalling isn’t fooling anyone and their blocking is getting blown up(PASS ATTACK HELPS). Mount Davis should grow by next home game!! Deserves to, wish nobody would pay for a seat, this organization is world class terrible!! But there’s always tommorrow!
October 4th, 2009 at 9:03 pm
It’s time to start running the wildcat with DMac and Bush in their together. Let them read and react!!! Can’t get much worse (if they can hold onto the ball).
October 4th, 2009 at 9:03 pm
What did I tell you guy’s about DMC????????
Who’s stupid now???????
What did I say about Fargas???? who’s stupid now???
I’m not saying that Fargas is our best back but to say we should CUT him or release him. Where’s Brien and all the young know it all’s now.
And Brien don’t bring me that Russell smoke screen young blood. You got DMC so what do you think??? who’s stupid?? and ridiculous??
Brien and all the rest of the young know it all’s how’s DMC doing?? epecially DAKOTA!!! where are those 80 yard runs?? did he leave them in the lockeroom on the toilet? WHERE ARE THOSE 80 YARD RUNS and I was the IDIOT??
October 4th, 2009 at 9:04 pm
Mr. I am willing to bet you 1000 usd Brien is black, or better yet 1000 usd, and the loser never post on this site, and that would include any of your aliases….
October 4th, 2009 at 9:04 pm
Alisgod,
I am not saying he couldn’t be utilized better, but at some point in time, you have to break a tackle or two and make a play. He never does, if he is in space he can hit the hole. But what NFL RB can’t.
Tell the truth, if you didn’t know who was who, you would have thought Slaton was the guy taken #4 overall, their back-up Moats was the 3rd round pick, and D-Mac was the undrafted FA.
October 4th, 2009 at 9:05 pm
What makes any of you think our OLine can pull of blocking to free up the Wildcat?
Let’s get that power I down first, and maybe run the simple reverse on or two more times.
October 4th, 2009 at 9:05 pm
Vegas,
They need to mix it up with McChicken the way New Orleans mix it up with Bush. McChicken cannot run up the middle. Unfortunately Cable is pretty stubborn headed to change his approach.
Cable called more shorter routes today but the rookies can’t handle the JR fastball.
October 4th, 2009 at 9:06 pm
you’d swear that russell’s in his third rookie season.
October 4th, 2009 at 9:08 pm
TAZ,
on those 2 long passes given up, CJ actually defended the initial route but the line didnt get enough pressure. They gave them way too much time. CJ likes to look at the QB and he got burned on a couple of those plays. We sure could use a little more heat or diff look on the D. Except for Ellis first sack, I thought the other 3 sacks were more a result of pass coverage.
October 4th, 2009 at 9:08 pm
JHill,
That was fun wasn’t it? I vouched for the play of the O-line the first 3 games, and seriously it wasn’t that bad, but today, just plain awful. Completely got our azz whipped up front.
And can we stop throwing passes to Lawton, let’s just admit that it isn’t going to work and move on to the next play on the sheet.
October 4th, 2009 at 9:09 pm
Vegas,
I agree with you on his going down too easy but he can catch real well. He is like Reggie Bush to me. Would you rather him being the 3rd wideout over Watkins? I would.
October 4th, 2009 at 9:11 pm
AlisGod, you notice how whenever someone brings up Davis and his disastrous management of this team, you go right to Kiffin? Kiffin was here for a year and some change. Get over him, dude. It’s Al Davis, the worst owner in all of professional sports, who’s dragging down your team.
October 4th, 2009 at 9:18 pm
Thec, are you still trying to convince me Brien is white? I already know he’s not. Take your moronic ass to bed.
October 4th, 2009 at 9:19 pm
Can’t wait to see the line for next weeks game tomorrow. If Eli plays we will be the biggest underdog so far this season.
At least 17 points and probably more like 19.
October 4th, 2009 at 9:19 pm
Raiders should always send 5 or 6 at the QB!! Their Cover guys are good enough to hold for 3-5 sec, CJ is coming on!! He got burned once, but shoulda had deep help I thought, but he played well!! Raiders D, as simple as it is, is fast enough to compete, the O-line Garbage, The QB, not worth the investment or time, take the sallery hit. Gradkowski is the best option, he, I’m sure. Already knows this system, pretty simple. He actually would allow for the playbook to open up a bit. Z. Miller is a damn good TE, imagine him in an offense like the JETS or SAINTS or well any other system. Murphy can ball, he’s pressing. DHB can play he’s pressing, and getting missed or underthrown. Todd Watkins, are you kidding me? JHL or Walker ! Then Chaz comes back!! All starts and ends with LT, LG, RG RT and LT Henderson could improve more! Coaching needs to drop their sacks a bit, let everyone just play football!
October 4th, 2009 at 9:19 pm
Brien the General Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 9:23 pm
As for Jake Grove, that bastard is garbage! They finally won today due to playing a trash ass dline like Buffalo’s. The guy sucked for years and couldnt beat out journeymen like Adam Treu and and Jeremy Newberry.
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I agree and I tried to defend that joke of a center.
October 4th, 2009 at 9:20 pm
Until Al Davis realizes that football teams are built from the offensive line up, we will continue to suck.
If your O line is bad, your running backs get killed, your quarterback gets killed, and even your receivers get killed.
October 4th, 2009 at 9:20 pm
Priest,
LOL!! and again LOL!! Of all the people to come on here and boast about being right you should be the last one by FAR. You have spouted more garbage predictions and opinions than any other person on this site and its not close. Damn near all you have predicted has been proven 100% WRONG.You should REALLY shut your mouth.
October 4th, 2009 at 9:20 pm
Vegas, haven’t we been screaming O-line help for months? D-line help for months? You can’t run the ball if the O-line is on their azzes. No hole, no run! Period!
October 4th, 2009 at 9:20 pm
jarmarcus russell had a great game today. he threw for over 120 yards!!! this was the breakout game we have been waiting for. he doubled up his passing yards from last week.
October 4th, 2009 at 9:21 pm
MR= too funny
October 4th, 2009 at 9:22 pm
If you think JaMarcus was to blame for that loss you’re either stupid or didn’t watch the game.
Cable and the other players aren’t just making up the fact that a ton of passes were dropped. Watch the game. Cable isn’t making up the fact that his o-line was destroyed play after play, giving JaMarcus virtually no time. Watch the game. It’s not JaMarcus’ fault we had ZERO running game. Watch the game.
If JaMarcus had played as well in the other games as he did in this game, there’s a reasonable chance we’d be 3-1 right now, definitely at least 2-2.
It just blows me away how people can sit there for 3+ hours watching a game and then have no clue what actually just happened in front of their eyes.
I guess I understand the media has to manufacture storylines to have something to talk about and when you go into a game and your storyline is that JaMarcus stinks, you for some reason stick with that because it might take actual effort, guts and/or an understanding of the game to describe what’s actually happening.
October 4th, 2009 at 9:22 pm
Vegas,
That game wasn’t that bad for me. See, let me go back. I had this as a 7 win team from the get go. I thought the division was so bad that really 7 wins could get it done.
Then we had the Chaz injury. I told you guys that was going to be a problem, but Murphy had a lot of momentum and a lot of posters said fear not.
Then I got a look at Ricky Brown attempt to cover the middle in the NO preseason game and I knew it was over then.
Not to mention Scott, Warren, and Kelly’s lacluster play on the DLine.
Did I mention Satele, Carlisle, and Green not inspiring much?
Yup, 7 wins was the goal, IF that.
Then came the Seymour trade and the glimmer of hope that again, 7 wins might be attainable. Heck, I even think there were a few who said if JRuss could put together a miracle, then we might be able to get 8 or 9 wins.
Well here we are, 4 weeks later and reality has sunk in for most of us. Kinda sad to see some of us melt down like we really expected to make some noise. I mean, the dellusion that Cable was the next Madden, and a team with no experience at any skill position would just magically turn into the Colts was sad.
Well, I have to admit that I will still be here next week, watching it all go down.
October 4th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
Brien,
What about the draw that D-Mac had to start the 3rd Q? Wide-open lane with a lead blocker, and a guy ankle tackles him from the side for a 3 yard gain. The dude tiptoes through the line and I seriously think me or you could tackle him.
He sucks, NFL RB’s break tackles, he never does and I mean NEVER.
October 4th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
MR is just a bitter little old man who can’t get it up anymore. probably a closet AD lover too.
October 4th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
Who do you all think should get the ball on offense? After 4 weeks I’m still trying to find a ‘player’ on offense.
October 4th, 2009 at 9:28 pm
MR, I am going to take your advice and go to bed, but i will give you one last time to take my money, is it a bet or not???????
October 4th, 2009 at 9:30 pm
LTR
October 4th, 2009 at 9:31 pm
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October 4th, 2009 at 9:34 pm
Bush should start, DMC should back up. Fargas should be waived.
October 4th, 2009 at 9:34 pm
I discovered the best way to read this blog! Scan for quotes, ignore all the bs opinionated crap from Jerry….
October 4th, 2009 at 9:34 pm
Mr.
I bring up Kitten and your flip flopping to show how much of less of a man you are of your words and thoughts. You dont hear me on here denying Davis’s lack of success do you? You on the other hand can’t be a man of your words? I ask again. You claimed you bought JR’s jersey 2 weeks ago. ARe you in or out?
October 4th, 2009 at 9:35 pm
Dude Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 9:20 pm
Priest,
LOL!! and again LOL!! Of all the people to come on here and boast about being right you should be the last one by FAR. You have spouted more garbage predictions and opinions than any other person on this site and its not close. Damn near all you have predicted has been proven 100% WRONG.You should REALLY shut your mouth.
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Dude Says:
April 14th, 2009 at 8:12 am
Man alot of you guys are going to be crying in your cheerios when Fargas is starting next year. LOL. Its funny how most of you just flat dismiss the guy and pretend he doesnt exist. Next year will be no different than last. Bush will get his carries, no doubt, but in a back up role in Oakland or somewhere else.
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how is your skillset at predicting Dude? Who should really shut their mouth?
Goodnite Nation.
October 4th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
I have been saying the last couple of weeks on this board that Russell sucks, but after being in Houston at the game today I must admit that it is not ALL his fault.
Sure, he made some bad passes, but…
1. Some of his bad passes are due to the fact THAT HIS OFFENSIVE LINE IS THE WORST IN FOOTBALL.
2. Some of incompletions were due to him throwing the ball away BECAUSE HE WAS UNDER PRESSURE ALL F’N DAY!!!
3. Many of incompletions were dropped passes.
4. The Raiders run no short hooks, slants, or possession type passes pass routes that allow Russell to get into rhythm.
5. When he does complete a pass, he is robbed by the officials, or its is fumbled away.
6. Neither Russell nor the RBs have in confidence in the O-line and it shows.
7. Raiders have the WORST O-LINE IN THE NFL!!!
Just my thoughts after finally seeing this turd of a team live.
October 4th, 2009 at 9:37 pm
the whole oline should be waived. including super mario. that buster is gonna want a 6year 45 mil contract next year. watch. al davis should be put into a retirement home, maybe his son can get a power of attorney and put the old senile guy on the sidelines. i said it before but the FUNNIEST draft i have seen was when AD took 2 cornerbacks in the first round in 2005!!!!!!!!!!!LOL. and they both busted out.wtf
October 4th, 2009 at 9:37 pm
AlisGod, are you going to talk about Kiffin ALL night? Let me know when you’re ready to talk Raiders, and Al Davis, and how bad he sucks. Kiffin is no longer here. Let him go.
October 4th, 2009 at 9:39 pm
AlisGod, why don’t you start a Kiffin sucks blog? Since you think about him 24/7. You can start a blog like this:
http://aldavissucks.blogspot.com/
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October 4th, 2009 at 9:42 pm
I think it’s time for the bipolar Vanilla Ice with a love/hate relationship with black people to be banned permanently for challenging other commentors to fist fights, mods.
October 4th, 2009 at 9:45 pm
You can’t undo 10+ years of horrible draft and free agent moves in a couple of years. Since the days of Desmond Howard and Larry Brown Al Davis has been making one awful move after another. No wonder we suck. It’ll be Jim Fassel next year after we go 3-13. We’ll suck again and then we give up our 1st round pick to New England.
October 4th, 2009 at 9:49 pm
raider drafting is the problem. AD drafts skill players and almost never drafts for the oline. he just gets some leftovers from other teams or 5 rounders who would be shown the door by any other team. AD drafts backwards. pathetic. should draft linemen FIRST, then more skill players. but oh well, i guess we’ll get another 4.3 speed wide receiver next year, anybody good coming out?
October 4th, 2009 at 9:51 pm
Ha ha haaaa!!!! JB, comment of the day!!!
October 4th, 2009 at 9:55 pm
JB, Davis w/o Ron Wolf. That’s what it looks like.
October 4th, 2009 at 9:58 pm
Raiders o-line has been weak all day,
Raiders are on the 1 yard line,
Cable dials up a sweep.
Are you f’n kidding me?
October 4th, 2009 at 9:59 pm
# manassamauler Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 9:49 pm
raider drafting is the problem. AD drafts skill players and almost never drafts for the oline. he just gets some leftovers from other teams or 5 rounders who would be shown the door by any other team. AD drafts backwards. pathetic. should draft linemen FIRST, then more skill players. but oh well, i guess we’ll get another 4.3 speed wide receiver next year, anybody good coming out?
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Along your line of thought:
To think, over the past years, we could have had Adrian Petersen, Calvin Johnson, Cedrick Ellis, Glenn Dorsey, Ryan Clady, Eugene Monroe, B.J. Raji. Brian Cushing, Alex Mack, Percy Harvin, Michael Oher, Jerod Mayo, Joe Flacco, Chris Johnson, Joe Thomas, Levi Brown, Patrick Willis, Jay Cutler, Haioti Ngata and the list goes on & on & on. How did our scouting staff miss all these playmakers? Our ability to draft quality people is in serious question – especially in the first round. No wonder our team is not worth a schit. WE CAN”T DRAFT TALENT. WE CAN ONLY DRAFT FAST! Therein lies a very big piece of the problem.
October 4th, 2009 at 10:02 pm
It’s all about Al Davis and his ego. The fans are merely collateral damage. Al Davis lives in his own little world and operates in his own environment according to his rules.
I’ve always said it’s good to be the king. Down with the peons and off with their heads. There will be no negative speech in the kingdom. And, John Herrera will be the court jester.
October 4th, 2009 at 10:05 pm
WR run routes that are 15-20 yards deep every play.
Not just 1 WR, ALL OF THEM!
Worst O-line in the NFL and they want Russell to throw 20 yards with every pass.
Are you f’n joking?
October 4th, 2009 at 10:06 pm
Anyone want to guess the line for next week’s game vs. NYG? It’s got to be at least NYG -14.5. I think it might actually be -17 though.
I’m in an NFL Death pool where 1st place is worth about $3,500. I’ve never picked against the Raiders before in it. That loyalty basically won me the thing last year when the Raiders picked off Denver, Houston and Tampa down the stretch last season and took out tides of other pickers each time. But I’ve got to seriously consider taking the Giants next week. Great d-line, great running game, very good at every other aspect. It’s basically a nightmare matchup considering the Raiders’ weaknesses. Their only hope is that the Giants come in so completely overconfident and we win the turnover battle big-time.
I haven’t looked at the schedule yet though. I’ll have to see who the Rams are playing at least.
October 4th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
Raider75 Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 9:58 pm
Raiders o-line has been weak all day,
Raiders are on the 1 yard line,
Cable dials up a sweep.
Are you f’n kidding me?
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Pears got absolutely blown up on that play. He was the backside guard and couldn’t even shield his man off from a sweep to the other side. Probably the easiest block for an o-lineman to make.
There’s a reason the Broncos let that guy go shortly after he started for them two years ago in a season in which their o-line play was terrible.
I know neither DMC or Bush did anything good today in their VERY limited opportunities. But WTF is up with bringing Fargas back as the main runner so he can blindly run forward and jump into a pile at the LOS every single down. We’ve seen this movie before.
October 4th, 2009 at 10:08 pm
Cable keeps saying that the Zone Blocking System uses different skills than man-up blocking. From what I saw today, I have no ideal what those skills are. I have yet to see a useful skill from any of them
October 4th, 2009 at 10:08 pm
#99 – Right on.
BTW,
WTF with onside kick to start the game? I had some faith in Cable as a play caller and thought the issues lied with execution (Jerry thought so, too), but WTF?????
October 4th, 2009 at 10:09 pm
We are sooooo gonna get our asses kicked next week…..
October 4th, 2009 at 10:10 pm
Has any other team ever given up a 95 yard free kick touchdown?
Hey (bunghole) wordpress…is this slow enough for you? WTF, do I need to wait 20 minutes between comments? This is F’ing stupid…ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders blog, powered by JaMarcus Russel’s intellect….
October 4th, 2009 at 10:10 pm
I didn’t mind the onside kick call. They totally didn’t expect it and the front-line blocker made a really nice grab on the run or else we probably would’ve recovered. Plus it wasn’t a traditional onside kick where you’re giving the ball up on your side of the field. This one was deeper and meant to find a hole in between the return setup.
It didn’t work, but I actually liked the call.
October 4th, 2009 at 10:13 pm
SSDD. That says it all. I’m outta here.
October 4th, 2009 at 10:15 pm
Will the mods please start temporarily banning the trolls. At least implement a 1 troll post per X time unit limit.
October 4th, 2009 at 10:16 pm
Priest I see you been talking out your ass like usual. Wheres your left tit Oakglen? Its just not the same with 1 buffoon here at a time..
October 4th, 2009 at 10:17 pm
On a positive note, how about a spot for Jon Condo on this year’s AFC Pro Bowl squad? Nobody has to snap the ball to the punter more than that guy and he’s never off the mark. Plus he makes the occasional tackle or two in coverage. Keep up the good work, Jon.
On another special teams note, how long is Cable waiting before using his secret weapon Seabass “Lightning Legs” Janikowski in the rushing game again? Why have we gone 4 games without a single Seabass rushing attempt? Come on Cable, we’re 1-3, can’t hold back now!!
October 4th, 2009 at 10:17 pm
Blame the O-line…..Blame the WRs…some of you are real funny. The more I watch other QBs play the game, the more I realize that JR doesn’t belong in the same league. Watching the night game today and…..NEWSFLASH folks….other QBs have to deal with pressure too. The difference with those QBs? They actually make teams pay for blitzing. Even in the face of pressure they know where their WRs should be and release the ball before they even make their breaks and…guess what?…it’s on the money and placed in a position where they can actually catch it without getting killed.
Blaming the O-line and WRs. WEAK! I’m not saying they plaid a perfect game. Far from it. They even deserve some blame. But to say that JR played a good game….hah!…pull your head out of your azz!
Oh, and JR…..you are a pathetic leader. “I guess I must play better”? You are a big POS!!! You “guess” you must play better? You’re an idiot. Go cash your check and get your buzz on and just stop with the stupid quotes. Keep your mouth shut! Better to say nothing and have everyone assume you an idiot than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
October 4th, 2009 at 10:17 pm
AlisGod and Priest, where’d you guys go?
October 4th, 2009 at 10:17 pm
Actually its the lack of a passing attack that is killing the running game. Any football fan with half his marbles knows if you cant pass the defense stacks the box with 8/9.
Dont be stupid you moron!
# priesttj Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 8:55 pm
The lack of a running game is killing this team, and Cable is directly responsble. That is his calling card. Get that fixed and we ca start from there.
October 4th, 2009 at 10:19 pm
LOL, it put my last post @ 1 minute later than the previous…stupid wordpress
October 4th, 2009 at 10:20 pm
Mistabrown Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 10:17 pm
Actually its the lack of a passing attack that is killing the running game. Any football fan with half his marbles knows if you cant pass the defense stacks the box with 8/9.
Dont be stupid you moron!
# priesttj Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 8:55 pm
The lack of a running game is killing this team, and Cable is directly responsble. That is his calling card. Get that fixed and we ca start from there.
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Exactly.
October 4th, 2009 at 10:20 pm
LOL. Preist just logs back on under a new name, “The News”. What a DORK!
October 4th, 2009 at 10:21 pm
I used to think having a good o-line was the foundation of having a good offense but after watching Dallas play… The team needs an attitude adjustment and the losing atmosphere around the raiders is as oppressive as Al Davis’ presence in that organization.
October 4th, 2009 at 10:21 pm
Did anyone see the Colts’ highlights? Peyton had tons of pressure and a tougher defense to deal with. Yet he still managed to throw for 300+ yds and win. Yeah, his O-Line is better, but after watching him, it’s clear that JaManboobs isn’t ever going to be in the same league as other NFL QBs
October 4th, 2009 at 10:22 pm
Russell got rid of several passes today to avoid sacks.
They ended as incompletions on his stats, but they were smart plays.
However, it is hard to be accurate when you are in FEAR of YOUR F’N Life.
The Zone Blocking HAS GOT TO GO. AL should hire someone from the current Giants offensive system to come in here and straighten this crap out.
October 4th, 2009 at 10:22 pm
How wide open was Murphy for a TD and JaMeatball with allday to pass throws it over his left shoulder instead of the right.
And alot of those drops were poorly thrown balls either high or wide. Im not even calling for Frye or Gradkowski let this half wit country bumpkin keep playin what the fk!
Cable is a schmuck for letting AL bench J Walker!
October 4th, 2009 at 10:23 pm
Cable hand picked Kwame Harris, Cornell Green, Samson Satele, and Cooper Carlisle for this line. He brought in Barnes and refuses to play him.
You know, with the option being Cable or Davis as decision maker for this team’s past draft and offseason, I think I have to go with Davis, right?
October 4th, 2009 at 10:25 pm
El Negro,
Houston has the 32nd ranked defense I believe, not sure but they are near the bottom!
Defensing the Raiders is real easy you put 8/9 in the box and choke off the run and game over Russell isnt going to beat even the worst ranked Def through the air.
The end.
October 4th, 2009 at 10:25 pm
# Raider75 Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 10:22 pm
Russell got rid of several passes today to avoid sacks.
They ended as incompletions on his stats, but they were smart plays.
However, it is hard to be accurate when you are in FEAR of YOUR F’N Life.
The Zone Blocking HAS GOT TO GO. AL should hire someone from the current Giants offensive system to come in here and straighten this crap out.
The ZBS isn’t the problem – it’s our inability to keep a system long enough and draft O-Line that work well in that system.
Oh BTW, our D system is so out-dated that we’ll never be able to draft players that fit in that system because noone else still runs that system in the pros, NCAA, even high school. Every team is showing us how easy it is to beat you when you run the same D on every play.
October 4th, 2009 at 10:26 pm
If you think Peyton Manning could’ve won this game with 9 dropped balls, absolutely no running game and about 2 seconds to throw each down to a pair of rookie WRs you’re on crack.
October 4th, 2009 at 10:26 pm
Houston was not always putting 8 men in the box today.
Raiders O-line could not have open holes if Houston had 2 men in the box.
Those guys are horrible.
The blown TD to Murphy was a bad pass, but not all of them were simply his fault.
And Russell never, NEVER had plenty of time to throw the ball today.
October 4th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
And, yes, I do think Manning is one of the best QBs in the history of the NFL.
October 4th, 2009 at 10:28 pm
Davis must be like a senile old bogey man gone mad type of grandfather figure that hands out the pay checks. Nobody knows what’s going on, the team loses but hey, it’s a livelihood!
October 4th, 2009 at 10:30 pm
# Chris in NY Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 10:26 pm
If you think Peyton Manning could’ve won this game with 9 dropped balls, absolutely no running game and about 2 seconds to throw each down to a pair of rookie WRs you’re on crack.
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No way Peyton could have won this game. All I’m saying is that if you watch enough other games and then look at how JaClueless plays the position…..
I hate you Wordpress.
October 4th, 2009 at 10:31 pm
The 8-9 man in the box propoganda is laughable.
NINE MAN FRONTS ?!?!? No Ss and one on one with our WRs?
Zack Miller wasn’t doubled?
NEVER happened. Our Oline was so bad you have guys thinking it took 8 or 9 guys to do that.
Why would a DC give the Raiders a chance to get LUCKY with a deep pass to DHB or Murphy when everyone knows are patterns are vertical?
Houston kicked out ass with 4 and 5 man fronts. Cushing, Ryans, and Willimas were unblockable, lol! They didn’t need any help. “We got this coach!”
October 4th, 2009 at 10:32 pm
Put Wordpress in at QB…it’s outsmarting all of us.
October 4th, 2009 at 10:32 pm
Nope, not always there are obvious passing downs you meathead!
And plenty of times Russell had time to set his feet and complete a pass and he failed, miserably. Did you watch the game with a blindfold on ?
Raider75 Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 10:26 pm
Houston was not always putting 8 men in the box today.
October 4th, 2009 at 10:34 pm
So,
Does anyone know what the record for free kick returned for TD is?
October 4th, 2009 at 10:34 pm
The pass to Murphy wasn’t great but a good veteran receiver makes an adjustment on that pass and hauls it in. Not to mention Russell was getting smashed in the face again by a defender on that throw.
Can anyone point to a single great catch or great run after the catch by any of our WRs or RBs this season through 4 games? No, but I could probably pick out 20+ dropped passes and a few dozen poorly run routes that led to incompletions or picks.
And yes, Wordpress BLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!
October 4th, 2009 at 10:37 pm
No doubt that the receiver situation is killing Russel’s development.
Does it piss anyone else off when they see JaBling sitting on the sideline wearing those diamond earrings after he just sucked it big time on the field? Even Deon called him out on that tonite on NFL channel.
October 4th, 2009 at 10:38 pm
There is no run after the catch. The WR’s have to adjust so much to Russells poor accuracy they just fall to the ground. He is going to get someone killed hanging guys out to dry.
Oh well let the chump play theres nowhere to go but up or sideways.
October 4th, 2009 at 10:42 pm
1-7…what a great start to the first 1/2 of the season. I hope we go 1 and F’ing 15 this year and end up with 20,000 people in the stadium each game. Maybe then Al will realize that the fans will not spend their hard earned money on this crap and hire a real GM to turn this thing around.
October 4th, 2009 at 10:42 pm
Jhill,
I have the game on DV-R you might want to try that. It seems like you maybe you watched the game on the radio. Am I right ? Were you even awake for the game ?
October 4th, 2009 at 10:44 pm
Jhill is blind in 1 eye and cant see out the other.
October 4th, 2009 at 10:46 pm
MR….pay attention…I was agreeing with Mistbrown’s response to Priest. I am not Priest…LOL.
October 4th, 2009 at 10:48 pm
# Mistabrown Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 10:42 pm
Jhill,
I have the game on DV-R you might want to try that. It seems like you maybe you watched the game on the radio. Am I right ? Were you even awake for the game ?
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Hey Papa isn’t mincing words lately….
U suck Wordpress
October 4th, 2009 at 10:48 pm
It makes no sense to stack 8 guys when 4 and 5 are getting it done. The C, RG, and LG were literally in the backfield on way too many occasions, including the safety we gave up. Williams and Okoye took Green and Carlisle 2 yds into the end zone, and Cushing cleaned up the garbage. Basic front, blown up play.
Our Oline got it’s asses handed to them. Pears, Morris, Carlisle, and Green. Is there one guy there that would even be on another NFL roster? Seriously!
October 4th, 2009 at 10:50 pm
Jhill it makes no sense to you to put 8/9 in the box but it makes sense to every Def Coor that plays Oakland. And it works!
HOUSTON had the leagues 29th ranked rushing D!!!!!
HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
October 4th, 2009 at 10:51 pm
Ok Mista,
I’ve been wrong before, no biggie.
I have the game on DVR too, so go ahead and give me a few plays I should take another look at?
1st qtr? 2nd qtr?
Or should I be looking for it when we were down 20?
October 4th, 2009 at 10:51 pm
Nobody is immune from blame. NOBODY!!! You name it, it starts at the very top and filters ALL the way down! From the meddling senile owner that has completely lost his touch, to the puppet coach that would never be hired as a head coach by any of the other 31 teams, to the players out there “collecting checks” (start with RUSSELL’s lazyazz!).
This is BS. I’m so f’n tired of this crap!
Quit the DAM excuses!!! I’m sick of the BS in here from some of you fans…”oh, it’s the receivers…oh, it’s the O-line…oh, it’s the RB”. It’s EVERYONE and it starts with your supposed leaders (coach, owner, QB)!!!!!
October 4th, 2009 at 10:52 pm
Well Mista,
I went ahead and started looking for myself, and what do you know. At the 7:58 mark of the 1st qtr, I do see an 8 man front.
My bad.
Does it matter that we only had 1 WR in the game and 2 TEs with a FB?
October 4th, 2009 at 10:57 pm
I have an honest question for everyone: How much do you think you spend on the Raiders every year? Hats, shirts, jerseys, tickets, watching the game at your local bar (when it’s not on TV), NFL sunday ticket, etc., etc. How much do you spend? How much do you think you’ve spent over the last 6 years. Do you feel like you’re getting your money’s worth? California has 12% unemployment right now…18% if you consider those with only part time jobs. That means almost 1 in 5 of us has a serious choice to make on whether or not to spend money watching this complete garbage or doing somehting else. Meanwhile, JaMoMoney Russell and Darren McFilthyRich are laughing all the way to the bank.
October 4th, 2009 at 11:00 pm
Houston didn’t need 8 man fronts today.
7 man fronts were getting the job done.
October 4th, 2009 at 11:01 pm
Fargas looked stellar on that safety!
Jhill, I know your not asking me to go get a pad & pencil and break down the game for you, so what are you asking ?
October 4th, 2009 at 11:02 pm
oh, and Miller sucks at run blocking too.
October 4th, 2009 at 11:02 pm
Jhill,
Everything matters!
lol
October 4th, 2009 at 11:05 pm
Well Mista,
Made it through the first qtr and just one 8 man front against a 1 WR set.
I did see a lot of Williams kicking ass, and the LBs running unblocked to make tackles. Sure would be nice to see that.
On a side note, do you realize Shaub only completed 11 passes today?
I’m about to start looking at the 2nd qtr, lol!
October 4th, 2009 at 11:08 pm
What happened to our oh so promising season? To our opening winning record supposed to be no lower than 3-1 by now? Our emerging QB, RB, and rising WRs corps? Our D? Our coach who the players supposedly play their hearts out for? Those hearts must not be very big, if there at all.
It is true. It’s everyone’s fault.
I am sorry for all of us who will tune in next sunday to watch the game in hopes to see some sort of improvement, only to be reminded of the type of team we are rooting for.
If Miller can’t go next week, than that would mean we’ll be playing with rookie WRs, rookie TE, pretty much rookie QB, RBs, and an Oline made up of scraps with the exception maybe of Henderson. How many points will we score?
And that’s without mentioning who our opponents will be.
I think we might just see Gradkowski in at some point in the second half due to injury, or complete meltdown of Russell. Though giving the supporting cast he’ll be working with, we shouldn’t expect much different of a result.
Good Times indeed. GO RAIDERS!
October 4th, 2009 at 11:10 pm
Trevor Scott had a horrible game. Is Richardson hurt or inactive I dont remember seeing him for a couple weeks.
October 4th, 2009 at 11:10 pm
Jhill, I know your not asking me to go get a pad & pencil and break down the game for you, so what are you asking ?
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Ahhh, ok Mista.
You reference you had the game on DVR, thought it might have meant something, asked you where I should look for these 8 and 9 man fronts you talked about, and now you don’t know what I’m asking? Your talking about it so much, surely you remember ONE play I should take a look at on the DVR. I mean, it was your suggestion, lol!
Houston ran their base 4-3 defense and kicked our ass!
October 4th, 2009 at 11:17 pm
# jhill Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 11:05 pm
Well Mista,
Made it through the first qtr and just one 8 man front against a 1 WR set.
I did see a lot of Williams kicking ass, and the LBs running unblocked to make tackles. Sure would be nice to see that.
On a side note, do you realize Shaub only completed 11 passes today?
I’m about to start looking at the 2nd qtr, lol!
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You’re not going to find them. You can look at these stats…
Defense T-A SCK INT FF
B. Cushing 5-2 0.0 0 0
B. Pollard 4-1 0.0 0 0
G. Quin 4-1 0.0 0 0
D. Barber 3-0 0.0 0 0
D. Ryans 3-2 0.0 0 1
M. Williams 3-1 1.0 0 1
J. Zgonina 3-0 0.0 0 0
Z. Diles 2-2 0.0 0 0
D. Robinson 2-0 0.0 0 0
A. Smith 2-0 0.0 0 0
De. Robinson 1-0 0.0 0 0
B. McCain 1-0 0.0 0 0
A. Okoye 1-2 1.0 0 0
C. Barwin 0-1 0.0 0 0
K. Campbell 0-1 0.0 0 0
Raiders had 22 running plays. Look who has the most tackles.
October 5th, 2009 at 12:34 am
Those oooooldies but goooooodies…..
# HayesDaze37 Says:
September 1st, 2009 at 12:18 am
…Tom Cable hasn’t shown a single sign of being a puppet…and he’s been under more scrutiny, from all sides, than just about any HC in the league. If he actually makes a break-through, if he can actually find a way to get these guys to put back-to-back-to-back good efforts, until they become the norm rather than the rare occurence…then Cable can have a huge career. Al’s there, and he’s not going anywhere until he goes, but he’s not in the way of Cable stamping this team as his own…
…The best thing to happen to the Raiders since Gruden left…is the fact that Al Davis has tightened his grip, not loosened it…while at the same time, paying more attention to his own instincts, and apparently listening to better personnel advice the past couple of years.
Long live Al.
October 5th, 2009 at 12:43 am
Fargas takes the handoff for a gain of one yard…..
October 5th, 2009 at 1:07 am
# HayesDaze37 Says:
September 1st, 2009 at 12:18 am
…Tom Cable hasn’t shown a single sign of being a puppet…and he’s been under more scrutiny, from all sides, than just about any HC in the league. If he actually makes a break-through, if he can actually find a way to get these guys to put back-to-back-to-back good efforts, until they become the norm rather than the rare occurence…then Cable can have a huge career. Al’s there, and he’s not going anywhere until he goes, but he’s not in the way of Cable stamping this team as his own…
…The best thing to happen to the Raiders since Gruden left…is the fact that Al Davis has tightened his grip, not loosened it…while at the same time, paying more attention to his own instincts, and apparently listening to better personnel advice the past couple of years.
Long live Al.
HAHAHAHA!!! thats classic!!!! Al davis has been micromanaging this team with an ironfist since 2004. IMO. probably a LOT longer. funny how the offensive and defensive schemes have remained identical since 2004, no matter who the coaches were!!! no joke. AD also happened to increase his ownership stake in 2004 after a partner died. funny how things have been TERRIBLE since then. wonder why?
October 5th, 2009 at 3:14 am
Priest says-
“WE CAN’T RUN THE FOOTBALL!!!”
Of course we can’t run the football!
Houston was putting NINE effing guys in the box!
How does the OL block that?! What chance do Bush, McFadden or Fargas have with that.
NINE EFFING GUYS IN THE BOX!
The Giants are probably going to put eleven in there.
EVERY team we play is stacking the box and they’re doing it because of Russell. We have no passing game.
He throws it over the wrong shoulder, or the touch is wrong, or it’s overthrown and underthrown or it’s somewhere in the effing SF Bay.
He can’t general a game, he can’t scramble, the number of offensive plays are limited because he still doesn’t know a very limited playbook and he’s actually getting worse. In this game people are saying he was better than last week.
He went 12 for 33! I don’t think we had a first down until midway in the 2nd quarter.
I sat there watching and wishing for Vick and I hate Vick.
Gradowski and Frye won’t be any better than Russell?
How could they be worse?!
At least they might scramble once in awhile.
I’ve supported Russell for a long time but it’s way past time for him to sit down and give someone else a shot.
What the hell do we have to lose?!
October 5th, 2009 at 3:41 am
Bill Cowher talking on CBS yesterday about Russell’s performance in the game:
“At some point you’ve got to put someone else in”.
And then he laughed.
October 5th, 2009 at 3:47 am
If Russell stays in he’s going to get the same kind of pounding that Walter got in 2006.
How’d that work out for us?
October 5th, 2009 at 4:03 am
I’m reading a lot of complaints about Cable’s playcalling here, but one thing should be pointed out. It has become very plain that there are things that this offense is not capable of executing. The O-line is a huge liability right now with their penalties and inability to block anybody, and the WRs cannot be counted on to make plays when they have to.
To say that these things limit his options when calling plays is probably an understatement. Hard to call plays when you know your offense is incapable of running them.
October 5th, 2009 at 4:45 am
Russell wasn’t awful… 33 rushes for 128 yards. A 3.8 yard per rush average isn’t that bad. You would like to see it be better than four, but running the ball like that keeps the chains moving.
Oh wait… Jamarcus is a QB? And those were 33 passes for 128 yards? My bad.
October 5th, 2009 at 4:52 am
Good Mornin g NATION!!!
When it rains it pours
Buzz up! 100 PrintIn addition to enduring yet another difficult loss, the Oakland Raiders are bracing for the possibility that coach Tom Cable could be arrested soon in relation to an alleged assault on an assistant coach. Criminal charges against Cable could lead to a suspension by the league.
Cable (right) has said very little about the matter publicly.
(Kirby Lee/US Presswire)
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“Everybody is trying to figure out who’s going to take over if Tom isn’t here,” said an assistant coach, who spoke on the condition of anonymity. “John Marshall has a lot of experience, he’s probably the guy. But it’s nuts. It’s crazy when you start to really think about it.”
Although Napa Valley (Calif.) police have declined to comment on the investigation, NFL.com quoted the attorney for Raiders assistant coach Randy Hanson as saying that Hanson told police he had been assaulted by Cable on Aug. 5 while the Raiders were in training camp. Hanson was treated for a broken jaw and his attorney, San Francisco-based John McGuinn, said three other coaches, including Marshall, witnessed the attack.
McGuinn did not return three messages left by Yahoo!, but told NFL.com that the situation was “a textbook case of felony assault.”
Napa Valley police Commander Andy Lewis declined to discuss the matter, but defended the progress of the investigation even though no arrest had been made in nearly two months.
“I’m not going to address the case, but it’s not as simple as just making an arrest,” Lewis said. “You don’t know the issues involved with the case.”
If arrested, Cable could also face a suspension from the NFL for violation of the personal conduct policy. Under the policy, coaches and executives are held to the same standard, if not a higher one, than the players.
The Raiders, defeated 29-6 by the Houston Texans on Sunday, have played progressively worse through the season’s first four weeks. After a late-game loss in the opener to the San Diego Chargers, the Raiders struggled to beat the winless Kansas City Chiefs in the second game and have scored a total of nine points in their past two games.
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October 5th, 2009 at 5:18 am
Yeah when jruss hit a wide open Murphy in stride oh wait that didn’t happen way to get you’re 1 good threat killed on back to back shots. If they put Bush at qb and ran every play that couldn’t possibly be any worse at Offense. Not to defend the D but if you’re them whats the point if U don’t take it to the house we ain’t scoring.
October 5th, 2009 at 5:37 am
This team is terrible. We have 84 million dollars tied up in skilled position players that suck. Our 0-line is the worst in the NFL, if we win 6 games this year, it will be a miracle.
I am fed up with the Raiders front office and no work to address the 0-line in the offseason. You go and draft a kid with the no. 7 pick that has no hands and runs terrible routes. I just do not know what to say anymore. I think we could have a really good D, if they did not have to be on the field the entire game.
Fed up with the Raider front office! The 0-line is where you win in the NFL, and until we address that, we will continue to be one of the worst teams in the NFL. Where are you saps that were calling me out in the pre-season defending the DHB pick?
October 5th, 2009 at 5:51 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
I really hate to say it but it looks like we are staring at a 1-7 record…
October 5th, 2009 at 5:52 am
Alex Mack is looking real good right about now,imo
October 5th, 2009 at 6:08 am
The Raiders will shock the world next week: Raiders 20, Giants 16
October 5th, 2009 at 6:12 am
Hwnrdr…It’s da line,imo.Jmac looked pretty good 2me.There was a play where he was pounded and was slow getting up and I found myself saying real loud Get Up Big Man Get Up!!!
Jmac IS the MAN 2lead us,imo
October 5th, 2009 at 6:15 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S,YES HWNDR,GLAD THE RAIDER’S GOT THAT ONE WIN EARLY,JUST HOPE IT IS NOT THE ONLY ONE..
October 5th, 2009 at 6:15 am
MAY BE A LOT OF FAN’S DRESS’D UP AS EMPTY-SEAT’S AT PHILLY GAME. ONLY 45K AT DENVER GAME,A DIV.RIVAL.
October 5th, 2009 at 6:17 am
This team is every bit as bad as last years team. PLAY FOOTBALL@!!!!!! This was the first time that I turned the game off. Russell is a 100% BUST
October 5th, 2009 at 6:18 am
Good Morning 4eva, Dirt Lot!!!
4eva, I agree with you. That game cannot be put solely on Russell. Yeah, he threw some passes that were behind the recievers, or ones that were just not perfect, but…as a wr, if it hits your hands…???
The O-line? I have no idea what happened. That was our strong point. This just means that the line is sorely missing Gallerey!!!
Dirt Lot…I know…I hope not!
October 5th, 2009 at 6:19 am
distribute the blame evenly….THEY SUCK….THe whole Offense. Ok here we go now it’s a VENDETTA against the Raiders….Well maybe if they weren’t so bad and didn’t cry over everything and just played…..WTF is this saying to “slow down you’re posting too fast?????
October 5th, 2009 at 6:19 am
I saw Jmac getting hit in the face-mask area many times and it was NEVER called.The VENDETTA is alive and well
October 5th, 2009 at 6:22 am
WHY DO I NEVER HEAR OF THE REF’S BEING CALL’D OUT, OR ONE OF THE NFL’S WEAK-AZZ’D EXCUSES4 THESE CALL’S. IT HAS TO BE OBVIOUS.
October 5th, 2009 at 6:24 am
Yup, Brian Cushing was one of them that smashed Russell in the helmet, the face mask, the ear hole…etc, etc…
Of course those weren’t going to be called…
October 5th, 2009 at 6:26 am
Man those are GREAT costumes,Dirt-Lot hahahahahahaha
October 5th, 2009 at 6:28 am
I said since the schedule was announced, our season will be determaned in Houston.
Today folks, we got that answer.
When the HC is a OL coach, the OL should the the ONE solid position group on the field. They were (aside from rookies WR drops) was the worst group on the field.
I didnt want a HC change, but at this point from what I have seen, either hand off the play calling duties or take early retirement.
I AM TELLING YOU NOW….
If we play a fourth game in a row next week vs the Giants, like the last three we have played against KC, DEN and HOU…. there WILL BE LESS THAT 30,000 against the Eagles.
Wake Up Al, you make coaching changes, personal changes, but the only thing that never changes is the scheme you make this team run.
Hate me all you will Nation… but Al… please… for the love and respect of the Nation… pick up the f’ing phone, call Gruden, give him full control and see what happens.
YEARS we have watched the same changes not work, try a new change this time around like the rest of us want.
October 5th, 2009 at 6:31 am
RAIDER25,YOU DO NOT THINK LOUIS MURPHY CAUGHT THE BALL AGAINST SAN DIEGO 4 A T.D. OR THE ONE YESTERDAY ? A GAME SHOULD BE CALLED DIFFERENTLY CONSIDERING THE TEAMS RECORD ?
October 5th, 2009 at 6:37 am
That was a close one (Murphy’s catch) yesterday. That could have gone either way, but why call it a catch and then call it off? But…it should never have come to that. The one call I put the blame on Cable is…why run Fargas out of the end zone? Now that was…insert what ever obscenity you want!
October 5th, 2009 at 6:41 am
IF CABLE THROW’S THE RED FLAG,AND THE REVIEW TAKE’S MORE THAN 20 SECOND’S,FORGET IT,THE CALL AINT GO’N THE RAIDER’S WAY..
October 5th, 2009 at 6:49 am
Jon Gruden would try to make a dink-and-dunk QB out of Russell. You see where that got Kiffin.
If you’re going to hire a guy with credibility (bear with me here guys, I know it’ll never happen) the guy you’d want is Cowher. He’d demand accountability from everbody and he wouldn’t (like Holmgren or Gruden) try and make a WCO quarterback out of JaMarcus.
Can you imagine what that lockerroom would have been like at halftime yesterday if Cowher were in there?
October 5th, 2009 at 6:50 am
I have never seen an offensive line so overwhelmed by a defensive line as yesterday. Until Al Davis realizes that the offensive line is the most important position on the football field, the Raiders will continue to suck.
October 5th, 2009 at 6:50 am
Raider-405 I AGREE W / U AL CALL GRUDEN PAY THE BIG BUCKS TO SOMEONE WHO CAN DIGG US OUT OF THIS HOLE!!
October 5th, 2009 at 6:51 am
All I’m saying is that when things are really bad like it is now, people start blaming everything and everyone. This team is horrible from top to bottom. Stop disecting the team trying to find possitives…there aren’t many right now. Until they clean house nothing is going to change. You can bash me all you want for saying this but it’s true. Until Davis is gone (dead, retired whatever) things will stay the same. Does it matter if Cable gets fired???? NO, who in their right mind would want to coach this team…NO ONE!!!! Davis controls everything that goes on.
October 5th, 2009 at 6:53 am
Funny thing yesterday was that Chris Morris was yelling out commands from the center position and it kept scaring Cornell Green. False start….wth?
October 5th, 2009 at 6:53 am
I’m Not even hyped to watch next week … but i will Maybe we wont get an ass whippin..Yea right who Am I kidding…GO RAIDERS!..( SIGH)
October 5th, 2009 at 6:56 am
RAIDER NATION !!! OUR TEAM SUCKS!
October 5th, 2009 at 6:57 am
Let’s take a different approach and acknowledge what does not work:
Changing coaches every year.
Focusing on high profile skill players with our first and second round picks in the draft.
(Moss and Collins should have demonstarted our lack of Oline support as they flourished elsewhere afetr their Oakland experinece).
We must invest our first and second round draft picks on the Oline and Dline.
The problem is obvious.
Those of you who wanted Dmac and Crabtree or any WR the last two years need to deal with this mess and recognize we just have to play through it.
Guys like Carlisle, Pears, Barnes, and Green were available for a reason.
NFL teams just do not let productive players go for no reason.
October 5th, 2009 at 7:11 am
I have to admit that I am pleased that I didn’t watch the game on the net and decided to watch Ravens-Pats which was the only game on tv here.
Although it hurt to see Flacco making all these great throws on routes from 9-20 yards, hitting his receivers in STRIDE from all angles. It was humbling to say the least!
October 5th, 2009 at 7:21 am
Moderator,
Please delete post #198. I did not know the website I made up as a joke was a porn site. A mistakeen post.
October 5th, 2009 at 7:23 am
The danger now is throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
Everybody is screaming for change. Wouldn’t that just be doing what we’ve done the last 6 years? We’ve tried to change and we still have the same problems.
Every coach has the same problems. Linemen who are overmatched, offsides, false starts and holding. WR’s not running sharp patterns, and dropping the ball. QB’s getting sacked, and RB’s getting stuffed.
DB’s blowing coverage, getting lost running the most simple D in the world, LB’s not plugging holes.
It’s all the same stuff, no matter who is coaching or playing.
Maybe the REAL change needs to come from the top. Al must go!
October 5th, 2009 at 7:23 am
We’re getting stuffed by 7 men in the box. ALthough I didn’t see the game yesterday, the other games were not characterized by eccessive men in the box as far as I saw?
October 5th, 2009 at 7:23 am
Jerry,
Is Al Davis is making any headway in hiring a General Manager?
Al Davis said he needed help….Are they even concidering it?
This season is a wash. They need a general manager to come in and fix things…..pay a general manager the big bucks instead of a number one pick! Because they are not the answer to us winning!!!
October 5th, 2009 at 7:24 am
This is not a professional organization. The owner doesnt allow it to be. And on top of that, they get screwed with bad calls EVERY game. That haunts them and it is all Al Davis’s doing.
This is coming from a 22 year fan who has supported the team despite NEVER seeing a superbowl win and really only 3 championship calibur seasons. 3 out of 22??? Thats rediculous! Blind loyalty I guess.
This team makes me sick every week. Even when they win its an endless struggle.
Blame it on Russell, blame it on McFadden, blame it on something else next week. But hasnt it been the same song for far too long? It seems to me it doesnt matter who you put in there. As long as Davis is in charge this team will NEVER be successful. It is his fundamental philosophies that are flawed. Not the players.
It is the defensive scheme, combined with the FACT that he will not allow a great coach to come in here and do the job that needs to be done.
And to top it off, there will not be another Rich Gannon and Jon Gruden to walkt thru the door and put up with this dysfunctional crap and play well DESPite all the issues.
If you have a clear memory then you will recall that this crap was present even when they were here: undisciplined, leading the league in penalties (or close). they were just so smart and detail oriented that they won in spite of all that.
I am so sick of this excuse for an organization. No players will fix this. It all starts with Al Davis. Al Davis Al Davis.
When he’s gone, MAYBE we’ll have a chance. IF his son sells the team. Until then, put Peyton Manning in there for all I care and things will still go wrong. Its just a stigma in the building.
Disgusting.
October 5th, 2009 at 7:24 am
lol@Young Blood
October 5th, 2009 at 7:26 am
The fact of the matter is that we are getting beat because of our old schemes.
If a team lines up with the same plays on D every game, and has a limited playbook on O and NEVER fools the opposition, you get beat.
Everybody in the NFL is good. You win because you execute better than the other team and because you fool them or get them out of position.
October 5th, 2009 at 7:26 am
Im hoping they man up and circle the wagons, but Russell needs to hit some deep balls…they flat out have to make plays, Murphy, Higgins, Bush possbily even Chris O’Neill, I mean they have to execute everything next week.
October 5th, 2009 at 7:26 am
priesttj Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 9:03 pm
What did I tell you guy’s about DMC????????
Who’s stupid now???????
What did I say about Fargas???? who’s stupid now???
I’m not saying that Fargas is our best back but to say we should CUT him or release him. Where’s Brien and all the young know it all’s now.
And Brien don’t bring me that Russell smoke screen young blood. You got DMC so what do you think??? who’s stupid?? and ridiculous??
Brien and all the rest of the young know it all’s how’s DMC doing?? epecially DAKOTA!!! where are those 80 yard runs?? did he leave them in the lockeroom on the toilet? WHERE ARE THOSE 80 YARD RUNS and I was the IDIOT??
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Hmmm, I thought you fancied yourself some football expert, yet you can’t see that none of the RBs stand a chance running behind this offensive line, with 9 defenders in the box because your great savior of a QB has a QB rating of 42.4. Sure, it is okay to blame the o-line and young WRs for Russell’s issues, but when it comes to McFadden and the running game, it is all on one player. Marcus Allen couldn’t gain yards behind this schit o-line.
Go ahead and give up on McFadden. We’ll see how that turns out pumpkin.
October 5th, 2009 at 7:29 am
I should have been happy all internet feeds got cut but nooo, a Raider Fan had to give us a website to watch the game. http://www.iraqgoals.net/ch5.html.
Ruined my day. Better to just have heard the radio feed.
October 5th, 2009 at 7:30 am
Jerry,
Is Al Davis is making any headway in hiring a General Manager?
Al Davis said he needed help….Are they even concidering it?
This season is a wash. They need a general manager to come in and fix things…..pay a general manager the big bucks instead of a number one pick! Because they are not the answer to us winning!!!
October 5th, 2009 at 7:31 am
Besides priesttj, the mere fact that you said Cable reminds you of Madden just shows what a complete and utter fool you are anyhow, lol. The only thing that Cable and Madden have in common are weight problems and skin color. PERIOD!
And what about all your rosy predictions for the Raiders? Still think this offense will be UNSTOPPABLE by the end of the year?
LMAO…let us all know what you are smoking, we need some of that….
October 5th, 2009 at 7:34 am
Dakota
You have to admit that McFadden has not been showing any real explosiveness or moves. No moves at all and he goes down pretty easy.
Is that not fair to say?
October 5th, 2009 at 7:34 am
Hey, the Denver D, Philip Rivers and Antonio Gates really came through for me in the FFL yesterday.
Sorry guys, I tried to use my jinx on them…usually most of my FFL players go down with injuries.
October 5th, 2009 at 7:35 am
2 wins in a row in FF. My win total is double Cable’s. Exla for coach of the Raider’s.
October 5th, 2009 at 7:35 am
The Donkeys even busted out their Orange Crush jerseys yesterday!
October 5th, 2009 at 7:38 am
Russell really did look a lot better yesterday. How many easy passed did his WR’s drop? 8? 9? Our O-line is terrible now that we are being forced to play 3rd string linemen because of injuries.
Once we get our starting O-linemen back we should do better.
Also, all these people hating on Russell, did you even watch the game? He is starting to look much better and I would much rather have him in than Gradkowski.
October 5th, 2009 at 7:40 am
Copenhagen,
Yes, McFadden has not been great, anyone can see that, but until we get an o-line that could at least block a college d-line, and an NFL HC that has a fukin clue, I am not going to call McFadden a bust.
If Bush and Fargas tore it up behind this line and McFadden was performing this way it would be one thing, but none of our backs have been able to do anything behind this line. You can’t place it at the feet of them, they all performed last year.
No RB is going to succeed with Cs like Morris and Satele lined up next to and dilapidated Cooper and the penalty machine Green…hey, that rhymes.
Barry Sanders might be the only back that could get 100 yards behind that line, with no QB and with a HC that wouldn’t have gotten a division one college job last year.
More so than Russell, McFadden and even Bush, are the victims of their surroundings. Place either of those guys behind a decent o-line and you would see much more production.
Hey, many of us saw it coming, we wanted Ts and Cs in the draft, instead we got WRs and Ss. I have a feeling that a Monroe and Unger on the o-line right now would be more productive than DHBs .5 catches pers game and Mitchell’s stellar special teams work.
October 5th, 2009 at 7:45 am
lmao @ starting to look much better!!
# maddenraiderfan Says:
October 5th, 2009 at 7:38 am
Also, all these people hating on Russell, did you even watch the game? He is starting to look much better and I would much rather have him in than Gradkowski.
October 5th, 2009 at 7:46 am
What’s up, AM Crew?
Won’t be in much today, got the day off – just wanted to post my thoughts and observations.
-Defense bent but not broke. Jerry pointed out accurately that the Raiders defense let up a lot of yardage on few plays early, but did force field goals.
-Chris Johnson needs to communicate better with his teammates. Twice he let up on routes because it looks like he thought he had safety help.
-Mike Huff hasn’t played two good games, he’s played four.
-The front four looks outstanding.
-The LBs not so outstanding.
-Offensive line played terrible.
-Russell played his best game of the season and his stats won’t reflect. He was under pressure all game and made good decisions for the most part to get rid of the ball.
Stepped up in and moved around the pocket well early, became a statue late when game was already lost.
Received no help from Cable, WRs, RBs or OLine.
-Texans LB crew on point all day.
- No call on the trip of Fargas in his own endzone on the safety.
- No call of roughing the passer when Russell’s head was slammed to the turf.
- Chris Johnson called for excessive celebration.
- Jacoby Jones was not.
- Louis Murphy had another catch stolen.
- OLine jumps offsides way too much.
- Zach Miller was open. After Russell was already on his ass.
- Tom Cable needs to focus on the OLine and
a) call better plays
b) relinquish playcalling duties.
Rough game, and a crucial one. I really don’t think it will be as bleak as most think right now, and we should be able to steal at least a game before the bye week.
If we can get this messed cleaned up, we may have a clone of last season, where we put it together (too) late.
I still think the chess pieces are there, but we need somebody to move them around the board better.
I am admitting I was wrong about Cable. He is not shaking things up.
October 5th, 2009 at 7:49 am
Here comes THE COMMISSIONER to the rescue! Now if they can only figure out a way to lock up Uncle Al as a co-conspirator we’d see some light at the end of the tunnel.
As for Alisgod, Priest, Vegas Raider, you guys make me howl with laughter. You still think a little tinkering, plugging a talent gap here and there is the solution. You guys are obtuse.
Not one playoff appearance while Davis still runs the team. Want to bet me?
October 5th, 2009 at 7:51 am
cable is a pathetic head coach.
this would be one time i would not disagree with a in season firing
we should forefit the next 3 games giants,philly,jets
that would give us a month to get ready for san diego since it only took the entire off season to play well against them last game.
October 5th, 2009 at 7:53 am
Dakota Says:
October 5th, 2009 at 7:40 am
Copenhagen,
Yes, McFadden has not been great, anyone can see that, but until we get an o-line that could at least block a college d-line, and an NFL HC that has a fukin clue, I am not going to call McFadden a bust.
If Bush and Fargas tore it up behind this line and McFadden was performing this way it would be one thing, but none of our backs have been able to do anything behind this line. You can’t place it at the feet of them, they all performed last year.
No RB is going to succeed with Cs like Morris and Satele lined up next to and dilapidated Cooper and the penalty machine Green…hey, that rhymes.
Barry Sanders might be the only back that could get 100 yards behind that line, with no QB and with a HC that wouldn’t have gotten a division one college job last year.
More so than Russell, McFadden and even Bush, are the victims of their surroundings. Place either of those guys behind a decent o-line and you would see much more production.
Hey, many of us saw it coming, we wanted Ts and Cs in the draft, instead we got WRs and Ss. I have a feeling that a Monroe and Unger on the o-line right now would be more productive than DHBs .5 catches pers game and Mitchell’s stellar special teams work.
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Good lucid post Dakota.
You’re right that NONE of the backs are doing it and we all know that they are quality athletes. McFadden is not a bust, I agree. He does indeed run HARD between the tackles.
October 5th, 2009 at 7:54 am
“NFL commissioner Roger Goodell says he plans to talk to Oakland Raiders coach Tom Cable about a training-camp incident that resulted in a former assistant coach accusing Cable of breaking his jaw while assaulting him.
According to foxsports.com, Goodell will consider discipline for Cable if warranted.
“This is not getting pushed under the rug,” Goodell told the Web site.
The Raiders visit the New York Giants on Sunday. Since the NFL’s headquarters are located in New York, it could present an opportunity for Goodell and Cable to meet.
“I don’t know anything about that development,” Cable said after Sunday’s 29-6 loss to the host Houston Texans.”
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Even I don’t think firing Cable mid-season will do us any good, but since he is probably going to get a 3 or 4 game suspension anyhow, what would it really hurt to fire him? Besides, Al could then use the “for cause” argument and not pay the man…
…the problem is that there are no HCs that would touch this job mid-season. The Giants would not allow Gilbride to leave mid-season…I am sure Fassel and Green could leave their current jobs, and they would be an upgrade over Cable, but not by much. No way Cowher, Shanny, or Gruden would take the job mid-season. No college coach worth having would quit on their kids mid-season.
What a mess. Al, how are you going to fix this damned mess you have made?
October 5th, 2009 at 7:54 am
We all screamed. FIX THE LINES. Now AL has to take the blame!
October 5th, 2009 at 7:59 am
no one can call McFadden a bust bo jackson couldn’t do anything with this o-line.
we have 3 good backs and none of them can get past the fat azz’s up front being drove back into them by the time they get the ball in their hands.
plus the other teams are putting 9 in the box daring JaPoatroast to throw.
cable is a very incompetent head coach just awful imho
October 5th, 2009 at 8:01 am
I must be a jack @$$ to follow this team!
Worse pro team in the business.
October 5th, 2009 at 8:05 am
I’ve loyally followed the Raiders since 1971. The last era I consider the Raiders were a consistent, year in, year out good (and several times great) team was 1985, the Raiders I remember ended after that.
Since that time they have had 11 coaches and 12 QB’s (that’s an avg. of a new coach or QB every 2 years), their record is 167 and 200. Subtract the Gruden years and they are 129 and 174.
Until Davis passes or turns over close to total control to someone else, this team will continue to field some talent, but not a cohesive, competitive, modern, disciplined, tough football team.
Until the Raiders field that type of team again i.e, the Gruden years, I will passively follow them, but will not watch this garbage product anymore, I’ve had it.
October 5th, 2009 at 8:06 am
McFadden isn’t a bust. But he was a luxury we couldn’t afford given the state of our O and D Lines. The failure to properly invest in linemen through the last six drafts is a disgrace.
2009: We took DHB – We could have taken Eugene Monroe.
2008: We DMC – We could have taken Ryan Claddy.
2007: We took J Russell – We could have taken Amobi Okoye
2006: We took Michael Huff – We could have taken Haloti Ngata
2005: We took Fabian Washington – We could have taken Louis Castillo
Okay, only a drafting genius would have taken all five of these but, we should have taken two or three of them. Self inflicted wounds.
October 5th, 2009 at 8:06 am
I heard Mike Holmgren on the Radio this morning…I wonder if he would take the job? Probably not, he spent too much time with Ron Wolf and probably heard all the Al Davis stories…
Thanks a ton Al-batross Davis….
October 5th, 2009 at 8:07 am
I can’t believe some of you morons ( lefty & others) blame the NFL for the Raiders losing, and then be dumb enough to post such crap!!
October 5th, 2009 at 8:09 am
is it me or is murphy getting screwed by the referees this year. (i guess the ref’s are making it a point to teach the rookie what it means to be a raider i.e don’t expect any call’s)
not that it would of made a difference yesterday but damn.
October 5th, 2009 at 8:16 am
Not sure he could turn the team around, but what an emotional boost to the fan base if Gruden were brought back. At least ticket sales wouldn’t plummet. May as well suit up Gannon while you’re at it. Isn’t he younger than Blanda was in 1974?
October 5th, 2009 at 8:17 am
Holmgren has always been my pick as the best GM for the Raiders. He has the strength, knowledge and passion to rebuild this franchise.
But it will never happen.
We are doomed to fail until Davis sell, retires or dies.
And I don’t care which. Just make it soon, Al.
October 5th, 2009 at 8:19 am
we need a new owner until then better get a new hobby that bring’s some joy. to counterbalance the pain.
October 5th, 2009 at 8:27 am
Russell was sacked 31 times in 15 starts last year.
He’s been sacked 8 times in 4 games so far this year – on pace to be sacked 32 times on the season.
not bad considering we got garbage starting on the right side of the line and LG Gallery has been injured!
October 5th, 2009 at 8:27 am
Fire Cable!!!
He sucks!!!
Me, Dakota, and others were right! He is not a head coach!!
October 5th, 2009 at 8:32 am
Blaming a 23 point loss on poor officiating… nowhere else but Raider nation!
October 5th, 2009 at 8:33 am
Scottish:
coulda/woulda/shoulda. happens in every draft to every team
only way to right the ship is to bench Russell and activate Danny Southwick. 1-7 heading into the bye week will cost Tom Cable his job (unless he gets arrested and/or suspended beforehand).
Russell will continue to be a joke for any other coach who takes the reigns. think hot headed Gruden, Cowher or Parcells would put up with this fat lazy unmotivated slob? no way! only HC puppets will and thats all Al Davis wants and will hire. Those are the only candidates who’ll apply here.
October 5th, 2009 at 8:38 am
i think Al Davis might travel to NY for this away game. talk to Kevin Gilbride about being a potential replacement at HC in the upcoming offseason.
October 5th, 2009 at 8:39 am
4evaRaider Says:
October 5th, 2009 at 6:19 am
I saw Jmac getting hit in the face-mask area many times and it was NEVER called.The VENDETTA is alive and well
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I also saw at least 5 blocks in the back on punts that went uncalled and the play where I assume Miller got the concussion should have been a 15-yard penalty for a helmet-to-helmet blow on a defenseless receiver. Did Houston even have a penalty called on it all game? Let me check: Oh, it’s OK, my bad. Houston did have 1 penalty for 5 yards called on it in this game. The Raiders only had 9 penalties called on them. So it was pretty even.
And how dare Chris Johnson celebrate an interception by dropping to his knees for 2 seconds. He not only deserved the 15-yard celebration penalty but should’ve been kicked out of the game and quite possibly suspended. Kids are watching. That was totally uncool.
And I like how the refs thought outside the box on Murphy’s (non)catch on that 3rd-down play when the game was still close. I mean, how many times do you see the official on the sideline with a great angle of the play get overruled on declaring a catch by some other official who was God knows where about 30 seconds after the play is over? It’s that kind of unpredictability that makes fans love this game.
And then you’ve got to admire the officials’ persistence in declaring it was still not a catch when everyone else in the universe with eyesight and a basic understanding of NFL rules could see that Murphy had control of the ball with one foot down and dragged the second foot. That was pure art.
October 5th, 2009 at 8:44 am
Andrew the Pats fan …
Wassup guy. I gotta say that in Belechik we trust thing is working out pretty well for you. You lucky muthafugga, lol!
I still thank you for Seymour though. May not work out for us, but I’d do that deal a million times over again with no hesitation.
Cowher will know what to do with him next year.
October 5th, 2009 at 8:48 am
Can we start a Fire Cable Club ( FCC)?!
October 5th, 2009 at 8:50 am
NFL Network should just devote its “Official Review” segment with Mike Periera each week to calls the Raiders got screwed on, and then have Periera try to weasel out of the inexplicable calls and actually fool the most gullible football fans.
You can’t blame a loss like this on the officials too much, obviously. But the Texans were up only 6-3 in the 2nd quarter when they made that EXTREMELY fishy call on Murphy’s catch. If the correct call is made there, who knows, the Raiders could have sustained a drive and either tied it up or taken the lead or at worst pinned Houston back deep in their territory. But instead a call like that takes the life out of a team and 6 plays later the Texans went up 13-3.
October 5th, 2009 at 8:50 am
Russell is going to the Pro Bowl this year.
voters will understand that he has 2 rookie WR’s and get this talented stud voted to Miami in February
right guys? he’s probably the most accurate QB in the league. best leadership skills i’ve seen in a decade!
October 5th, 2009 at 8:51 am
We need a Phil Jackson type hire, man. No Kevin Gilbride’s or up and coming assistants. Trade our 1st rd pick, take that $, and give it to Cowher and the GM of his choice!
October 5th, 2009 at 8:55 am
Take The Play Calling away from Cable. If he does better, keep him. If not, then fire him.
October 5th, 2009 at 8:55 am
Chris in NY: the Raiders would have surrendered a beatdown by the Texans even with the refs on OUR SIDE.
did we play well enough to win the game? no, we didn’t.
Russell is a loser and we’ll continue to be the laughing stock of the league as long as he starts at QB. Justin Fargas is another turd. Why was he even active in this game? McFadden & Bush could fumble 5 times a game and still be more productive than Crash Test Dummy…
October 5th, 2009 at 8:55 am
Who they’ll be coaching in 2010:
Gruden: Cowboys
Holmgren: Redskins
Cowher: Panthers
Cable: Mean Machine
October 5th, 2009 at 8:56 am
Texans ran for 121 yards on 36 attempts. Thats 3.3 yards per carry. under 70 yards for Slaton.
Just 2 catches for Andre Johnson. under 70 yards for him too.
4 sacks & an interception.
Raiders defense played well enough to win the game.
Russell continues to hold this team back. time to take out the trash. bench JaMenstrual
October 5th, 2009 at 8:56 am
also on the calls, Russell clearly took a blow to the head from cushing ref is right there no call, and zack miller’s concussion is from a blow to the head from cushing no call, and that catch murphy did bad call, i am so tired of the league having a vendetta against the raiders, call the damn game fair.
October 5th, 2009 at 8:57 am
Randy Hanson for interim head coach? LOL
October 5th, 2009 at 8:58 am
Cable is a spineless puppet. Some of you are finally seeing what many of us warned about since his hire. He is not the answer. But, then again, the next guy won’t be the answer anyway seeing as no respectable candidate can be lured here.
October 5th, 2009 at 9:02 am
I haven’t seen one impressive catch by a Raiders receiver this year but at least 20+ drops. That’s the problem when you try to play with two starting rookie receivers.
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5 drops all season according to official stats. That total includes Miller, Stewart, Watkins, etc as well.
here’s the link:
http://sports.cbs5.com/fb/playerstats.asp?id=8255&team=13
how do you explain his other 60 incomplete passes?
October 5th, 2009 at 9:02 am
al davis’s mom lived to 100, al davis is not going anywhere, he needs to wake up and realize he is the problem, but he is too stubborn for that, i appreciate all he has done but now is the time to walk away or get some help and not snitches like hansen.
October 5th, 2009 at 9:03 am
Chris,
Great call on the Cowher/ Panthers. I agree.
October 5th, 2009 at 9:03 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 5th, 2009 at 8:55 am
Chris in NY: the Raiders would have surrendered a beatdown by the Texans even with the refs on OUR SIDE.
did we play well enough to win the game? no, we didn’t.
Russell is a loser and we’ll continue to be the laughing stock of the league as long as he starts at QB. Justin Fargas is another turd. Why was he even active in this game? McFadden & Bush could fumble 5 times a game and still be more productive than Crash Test Dummy…
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Agree that going with Fargas as the main back again was senseless. Clearly a desperation move by Cable.
I can’t blame this one on J-Mac though. The receivers have to catch the balls that hit them right in the hands and once in a while make an NFL caliber play on a ball that isn’t right in their chest. I haven’t seen one impressive catch by a Raiders receiver this year but at least 20+ drops. That’s the problem when you try to play with two starting rookie receivers.
JaMarcus’ numbers will radically improve when Schilens returns. Bank on it. Hopefully Schilens will be able to stay healthy over the long-haul though. Seems to be pretty injury prone.
And the o-line just got eaten alive yesterday. This wasn’t a case of 8 or 9 men in the box all day. It was a case of the d-linemen consistently pushing 2 or 3 o-linemen 3 yards into the backfield in one-on-one battles on every play. An embarrassing effort by that group.
October 5th, 2009 at 9:05 am
there has been way more drops than that shoot on 3 plays in a row murphy dropped 3 passes 1st 2nd and 3rd down.
October 5th, 2009 at 9:06 am
unfortunately we don’t have singletary wish we did he has niners playing tough
October 5th, 2009 at 9:08 am
I reply don’t have a big problem with How Al drafts, but my problem is Who he hires to coach!!!
Other than Madden, Flores, & John ( I don’t like his Man cruch on Vets and QBs, and I don’t like his offense) all the other coaches have been descent at best!
October 5th, 2009 at 9:11 am
Russell clearly took a blow to the head from cushing ref is right there no call
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maybe it wasn’t a call because Cable paid the ref? I would.
How else would you get an Al Davis scholarship player out of the lineup?
Cable wanted to win the game! He wants to keep his job. As Mike Singletary says “can’t win with’em. can’t do it!”
October 5th, 2009 at 9:12 am
That was as bad as you get calling plays!!
We couldn’t run on them all day, so we try to run it from the 1 with FARGAS!!!!
Cable, you suck dude!
October 5th, 2009 at 9:14 am
All these years of losing and it’s been different players different coaches, it’s all becuase of one person Al Davis, we won’t win as long as he is running the team.
October 5th, 2009 at 9:14 am
Funny that even though Jerry Mac admits 9 dropped passes (reported by Cable), he still says that Russell makes Kerry Collins look like a Hall of Famer…and the Titans are 0-4 right now!
LOL. thats how bad it is.
does Jeff George still have “the itch” ?
October 5th, 2009 at 9:14 am
*crush
October 5th, 2009 at 9:18 am
Time for school, later Gents.
Later Nation.
October 5th, 2009 at 9:18 am
mantus Says:
Russell looked better, Bey was better, o-line was worse and the play calling was not good, again. Cable needs to get hands-on with o-line, then relenquish play calling to someone more experienced.
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You are right on man. Cable is terrible. We have play makers, but cable doesn’t know how to use them. Run plays are garbage. There is no creativity what so ever. I hope Cable gets locked up… Let someone else cal the plays.
October 5th, 2009 at 9:19 am
unfortunately we don’t have singletary wish we did he has niners playing tough
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big chill: Russell makes Shaun Hill look like a Pro Bowler too. He’s been sacked 13 times compared to Russell’s 8. fumbled 3 times to Russell’s 1. However, he still completes over 62 percent of his passes and has a 5/1 TD-INT ratio. with garbage at the WR position
no more excuses for JR please!
October 5th, 2009 at 9:20 am
Here are some of the problems as i see them:
Coaches are not coaching to their strengths. Cables strength is coaching lineman and you can tell when he is not directly involved with that unit. He should find a way to focus his strengths on fixing that unit. Once Gallery gets back and Barnes comes back from injury to play on the right side the running game will start to come together and the passing game will come around. I know he wants to call the plays, all coaches want to call the plays but he needs to set the tempo as far as what he wants to accomplish on offense and then use his resources better. With Cable focusing on the offensive line and general offensive game planning Tolliner should get first shot at actual play calling. He should also be placed in charge of WR’s. Sanjai Lal should be given a bus ticket to Tenn to join his dad lance. There is no way your least experienced coach should be in charge of a group full of rookies, first and second year players. Hackett stays as QB coach and after every series he should be talking to JRuss not the back up QB’s which is what i noticed during the Texans game. Just a couple of things that might help. I still think that Cable is the best option. I think that he is doing to much and not delegating as well as he should be.
October 5th, 2009 at 9:23 am
Mistabrown Says:
How wide open was Murphy for a TD and JaMeatball with allday to pass throws it over his left shoulder instead of the right.
And alot of those drops were poorly thrown balls either high or wide. Im not even calling for Frye or Gradkowski let this half wit country bumpkin keep playin what the fk!
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Sound like someone that has never played a lick of FB. The pass that was thrown over the outside shoulder was a perfect example of a rookie reciever not being in the right spot and also not being able to adjust to the ball. A better receiver would have caught that ball. Oh, and if the ball touches your hands you should catch it. None of the drops would have been spactular catches, just good ones. Receivers make QB look better all the time.
Can you name another QB that had to start out with 2 rookie WR and no vets???? I can’t!!
October 5th, 2009 at 9:25 am
man we should start walker i don’t care if he can’t run fast, he can catch, we need that.
October 5th, 2009 at 9:26 am
morning all.
October 5th, 2009 at 9:28 am
The Giants game ?
The name Custer mean anything to you ?
October 5th, 2009 at 9:29 am
RRS,
You are like a broken record man! Your constant ranting about JRuss is borderline obsession. You don’t hear one person in here pumping up JRuss or making excuses for him. Your pile on mentality is surprising. Did you really try and post a link to a stat that say JRuss has only had FIVE drops credited to him? LMFAO!
This team would have won exactly ZERO more games with any QB you choose in the NFL. Our TEAM sucks! Our Oline is worse than our QB and any sensible person can see that.
Cut JRuss today! Who the F cares?
We STILL have Pears, Morris, Satele, Green, Lawton, DHB, Murphy, and an inexperienced play caller.
W-E-E-E-E S-U-U-U-U-U-U-U-C-K!
October 5th, 2009 at 9:31 am
Well. We’re last in offense and averaging 208.5 yards per game. Where’s bed and breakfast?
October 5th, 2009 at 9:32 am
I think our defense matches up well against the Giants offense next week.
Nnamdi & CJ can contain Smith & Manningham.
Jacobs & Bradshaw only have 1 rushing TD between the both of them. 553 yards on 126 carries is 4.3 yards per carry.
However, when the Giants D matches up with our O it’s gonna be Armageddon. Russell will turn the ball over at least 3 times between the picks & forced fumbles.
if Fargas starts at RB he’ll continue to average 2.4 yards per carry against the G-Men …
October 5th, 2009 at 9:33 am
Can’t believe the Giants are only 15.5 point favorites. I think if Eli is going to start it might go up a point or two.
Who’s going to tackle Jacobs? Our LB’s? Please
October 5th, 2009 at 9:35 am
I don’t think we can blame these issue all on the draft picks. I really believe if someone like Bill Cower were coaching the same group of guys, they would be successful. The problem is Al davis doesn’t respect coaches and neither do the players.
October 5th, 2009 at 9:36 am
Vegas…..what are the odds for the Raiders to score a touchdown ?
October 5th, 2009 at 9:38 am
Russell out of the shotgun is the only way right now. teams see Russell behind center and automatically play the run and would be right 80%.
October 5th, 2009 at 9:39 am
This team would have won exactly ZERO more games with any QB you choose in the NFL.
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False. I don’t want to cut Russell. I want him to listen to Tom Cable. Put the work in! no chemistry with the young wides? stay after practice. study film together. develop one!
the Colts are 4-0 with Garcon & Collie instead of Harrison & Gonzalez … brand new staff on both offense & defense. play in a much tougher division
October 5th, 2009 at 9:39 am
Murphy needs to learn how to finish catches. His sideline catch was a catch, but you can’t leave any doubt up to the refs because we are the Raiders and seem to get screwed with there is a 50/50 call.
And Cable, just please scratch out the play for Lawton to catch a pass in the flat. We’ve tried twice, it doesn’t work, just get rid of that damn play!!
October 5th, 2009 at 9:45 am
Cable is doing what he’s told. Lay off!
October 5th, 2009 at 9:45 am
As much as I hate to admit it, the Broncos current state shows exactly what is wrong with the Raiders. The Broncos’ owner backed his coach 100% with how he handled Marshall and Cutler…the players got in line and now they are 4-0.
Will they continue to succeed? Who knows, but Al needs to put that kind of faith and power into the hands of the next head coach.
Too bad the will not happen.
October 5th, 2009 at 9:46 am
Folks….Even if Singletary was here, the results wouldn’t be the same. You see, Singletary is a no-nonsense coach. Davis wants his coaches to be “player coaches”. In other words, cream puffs. He only wants them to provide some instruction and call the plays. No discipline allowed and the owner will provide the schemes.
October 5th, 2009 at 9:46 am
Wow, I thought 2006 was going to be the low point of this post-superbowl hangover. I was wrong. The sad thing is, where do we go from here? If Al fires Cable mid-season, we are probably looking at Paul Hackett, John Marshall or Ted Tollner coaching the team. If Al waits till the end of the season, I dont know that the options get any better. Nobody, NOBODY wants to come into this toxic dump right now, except those desperate for leg-up in the coaching business, which means they will want to move on, the first chance they get. My dark-horse candidate: Michalczak the O-line coach. Al is as predicatble as our schemes.
October 5th, 2009 at 9:47 am
5150,
So Murphy wasnt in the right place? lmao
How about JaMarshmallow throws the ball to him! Not over the wrong shoulder NOT over his head NOT in the dirt NOT wide left….how about that?
October 5th, 2009 at 9:48 am
The Raiders defense got gashed by the Texans on numerous occasions, but defensive tackles Tommy Kelly and Gerard Warren walked off the field feeling good about their play. Kelly said defensive coordinator John Marshall and Cable “kind of challenged me and ‘Money’ last week after Denver.
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Wait a minute, Gerard Warren’s nickname is “money”??? Why on earth would he have that nickname??
I think I just threw-up in my mouth.
October 5th, 2009 at 9:49 am
Mistabrown Says:
October 5th, 2009 at 9:45 am
Cable is doing what he’s told. Lay off!
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lol!
October 5th, 2009 at 9:54 am
That pass to Murphy was over thrown & over the wrong shoulder!
The end.
October 5th, 2009 at 9:55 am
I know that alot of us love Al Davis but,honestly He’s the Owner of his business and his business is losing everything that it stands for.Al Davis business sucks but he’ll continue to sell as long as we continue to buy from him.If we stop buying from him he’ll have to let go or sell his business.Always look to the top when a business is great or poor.Im sorry to say that Al Davis business is very poor.
October 5th, 2009 at 9:56 am
Mistabrown Says:
So Murphy wasnt in the right place? lmao
How about JaMarshmallow throws the ball to him! Not over the wrong shoulder NOT over his head NOT in the dirt NOT wide left….how about that?
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Look I like Murphy, but he ran that route to far inside. He also dropped passes that were right in the hands. He had a bad game, but he is a rookie. I think in 2 more years, he makes those plays.
When Payto, Brady, or Ben throw passes to a WR back shoulder it’s call a great pass. When the WR makes a great catch, it’s “man did you see that, he put the ball were only he guy could catch it” Good WR make QB look good. Jruss is not good right now, but he is also getting no help.
October 5th, 2009 at 9:58 am
False. I don’t want to cut Russell. I want him to listen to Tom Cable. Put the work in! no chemistry with the young wides? stay after practice. study film together. develop one!
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To a degree, agree. But like I was saying earlier in the week, Russell and the WRs are salaried employees. Practice ends when the coach says it ends. Tollner and Hackett need to be the ones not leaving the facility, and mandating the time for these kids to show up.
Maybe they are doing that, who knows.
BUT!
Pears, Morris, Satele, Carlisle, and Green would still be getting blown 2 or 3 yds in OUR backfield, and whiffing on pass blocks.
Kelly and Warren would still need to be frickin challenged by their coaches to show up. I guess we have an answer to part of Garcia’s accusations. Warren and Kelly are 2 cats just ther collecting a check. Thus, the “MONEY” gloss, Vegas, lol!
October 5th, 2009 at 9:58 am
Murphy has to make that play, the one McRaider 5150 is talking about. It could have been a better pass, but crap they blitzed like 7 guys and they were barreling down Russell’s neck. Murphy has to get his head around and do what NFL WR’s do week in and week out, make tough catches.
October 5th, 2009 at 9:58 am
I think its pretty safe to say priesttj cried himself to sleep last night & Oakglen was up allnight petting his cat in his Raider underoos.
October 5th, 2009 at 9:59 am
If Al fires Cable mid-season, we are probably looking at Paul Hackett, John Marshall or Ted Tollner coaching the team.
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BBB: Randy Hanson for interim Head Coach?
October 5th, 2009 at 9:59 am
All we really need is to bring in a better play caller. Leave Cable as HC, he seems to be decent at that but we need a real OC to call the plays. And then we need our lineman to get healthy and play better.
We aren’t going to be a playoff contender this year, but it could get us close to a 8-8 record.
October 5th, 2009 at 9:59 am
I hope Al does what ever Amy tells him to do!
October 5th, 2009 at 10:02 am
Singletary was smart enough to let the damn guys who know what they are doing where the headsets and call the plays!
October 5th, 2009 at 10:07 am
Al Davis is wrong for what he has done to his business,He doesn’t pay attention to detail anymore.His Drafting style isn’t working anymore.He overrules his coaches causing them to say “I don’t care anymore” then it all trickles down to the players.Thats then what we see on the football field every week.It all starts at the top.Its the truth.
October 5th, 2009 at 10:11 am
Heres a great example,do any Raider fan think that Al Davis would let any coach come in his business and run it like Mike Singletary is running San Francisco.NO WAAAAAAAAAAAY
October 5th, 2009 at 10:11 am
Will the Raiders be favored once this year? We were for about a day on the Donkeys game, but than become dogs again.
Maybe the Chiefs at home at that will be it.
Brutal.
October 5th, 2009 at 10:11 am
From PFT’s Curran:
Selfish Play of the Day
Raiders punter Shane Lechler unleashed a 75-yard free kick after the Texans caught Justin Fargas for a safety. Kicking from his own 20, Lechler boomed it to the Texans 5, which meant the Raiders’ coverage team had no chance to slow down Jacoby Jones who was at full speed as he whizzed past the Raiders coverage team like pylons. The result? 95-yard touchdown. Just because you can kick it 75 yards doesn’t mean you should.
October 5th, 2009 at 10:14 am
2010 offers owner escape route
As the NFL prepares to head into the great unknown of 2010, different issues are surfacing. One of the most notable involves struggling players with bloated contracts. In an uncapped year, which most everyone now is expecting, teams would be free to cut any high-priced player without any salary-cap ramifications. In other words, the Raiders could unload quarterback JaMarcus Russell and wide receiver Javon Walker, the Panthers could do the same to quarterback Jake Delhomme and any team could purge any player without having to go to salary-cap jail. Bad financial decisions would be wiped off the books. And there also would be another side consequence. What now might wind up happening is that this winter’s free-agent class could have a whole new crop of retread players no one was expecting after the Great Purge of 2010.
October 5th, 2009 at 10:19 am
RRS,
I didnt even think of that option, of course Al Davis would give him the reins, that just makes too much sense.
Oh the Raiders, I guess we are all just waiting for that morning that we wake up and see “Al Davis, Raiders Owner, Dies from …” on the headline. I don’t know when that is gonna be, but I do know where the party is gonna be.
October 5th, 2009 at 10:25 am
The Fargas safety and subsequent free kick return for touchdown cost the Raiders 9 points. That is the same number of points that the offense has scored in the last 2 games.
October 5th, 2009 at 10:26 am
Cushings a f’in bish. His punch / shove of Miller forced his head back into the turf and gave him that concusion. what a punk.
I’ll bet he doesn’t get fined for punching Russell in the head either.
October 5th, 2009 at 10:29 am
The Raiders have a bad call go against them and they self destruct.This seem to be the trend from years back to now. The main problem is the Raiders are to porous. They cover up one problem ,(Cavity) one week while falling into another cavity the next week. unless all the cavity are fill at the same time, the Raiders will not have a fighting chance.
DHB is not game ready.Will he work his way to become a good receiver? hard work and time will tell.In my opinion, he should not be a starter and should be brought in on passing downs or other plays that require his skills like reverses.
Is there any team in NFL the Raiders have a mixed match advantage with? Do the Raiders come into the game to specifically exploit other teams weakness.The coaching game plan should modify somewhat to give your team the advanage. I dont see that with the Raiders. I don’t see them modifying their offensive sets to out smart a defense. Is there more to coaching than lining up in a vanilla set and running a fly route. shouldn’t The Raiders Know that specific teams play defense a certain way and should stop their route in certain zones and so forth….. even running back in passing play often run into defenses zones instead of finding holes to settle into.
Botton line, only well polished teams have productive seasons.The Raiders can fill the cavities one by one, as evident by the addition of Seymoir,and underperform or they can get the drills and remove the cavities,and have a fighting chance. This includes Players,Plays and coaches
Raiders Be With You.
October 5th, 2009 at 10:33 am
This is the real Issue in Alameda.
Tom Cable is not a head coach. He got credit for offensive line coaching in Atlanta with Vick at QB. Vick put up about a bill a game and Warrick Dunn ran for 75+. That does not make you an offensive line guru. That was mostly Vick. About his stint at Idaho? Nuff Said. He was also OC at UCLA when Jones-Drew was there. Nuff Said.
Now he is THEE Man in Oakland and the truth comes out when he is in charge of the offense. The O-Line should be good if nothing else right?
Cable is a fraud who said all the right things and may have also gotten some sympathy from Al Davis when his father died (father passed week before he was named HC).
Sorry Nation but Cable is not our guy. There is only one guy who can save us at this point and it is the same guy that set Cable up for this in the first place, Mike Vick. If you don’t believe it, please pass me some of whatever you smokin.
October 5th, 2009 at 10:36 am
The Giants will play this like a pre-season game. The starters will play a series or two then hand it over to the backups.
This is a freakin bye week for the Giants.
October 5th, 2009 at 10:38 am
Next week we play the NFL’s 4th ranked offense and 1st ranked defense. Is there any mercy rule in the NFL? This could get ugly!
October 5th, 2009 at 10:40 am
Whatever it takes for us to win, I guess I must play better.”
Gee thanks JaLoser. You “guess” you must play better? Wow show some emotion and leadership why don’t you. YOU PIECE OF SHYTE.
October 5th, 2009 at 10:41 am
There is no way you can blame this whole game on Russel alone. This team sucks!!!!! Cable, got one thing right you can’t just blame the QB. Once again a very predictable offense and a 4 man D Front with no blitz packages. Is Cable trying to loose on purpose?
They are not ready to win yet and I like the young talent they have on the team including Russel. They just don’t have the coaching, direction and play calling to make it work.
I am really hating the silver and black right now. What a waste of talent and football. It isw sad but true I will watch other teams play before I will my own squad.
From the Owner to the ball boy they suck and blaming just Russel is not the answer!!!
No blocking, hand tackling…..terrible, terrible, terrible!
October 5th, 2009 at 10:47 am
Dakota Says:
October 5th, 2009 at 8:06 am
I heard Mike Holmgren on the Radio this morning…I wonder if he would take the job? Probably not, he spent too much time with Ron Wolf and probably heard all the Al Davis stories…
Thanks a ton Al-batross Davis….
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Mike Holmgren stated that he wants to coach an East Coast team.
Please help me welcome the new head coach of the Oakland Raiders…Paul Hackett
October 5th, 2009 at 10:48 am
Man I have been watching the Saints play lately no need for me to keep wasting my Sunday free team. I don’t care how much you love your team when they are putting out a product like the Raiders?? You would be a fool to buy it.
Watching this team makes me want to vomit. No need to dog out ESPN or anyone else for talking about the Raiders they are a very terrible football team.
October 5th, 2009 at 10:49 am
All I know is that it’s all JaMarcus’ fault!
Do you people realize how stupid of a statement that is? Some of you really don’t know much about football, this much is made clear by these repeated ignorant statements.
October 5th, 2009 at 10:49 am
I can’t picture any real HC coming here ever again. Not after the Kiffin tirade. Not even Gruden. Madden says nothing but nice things about the Raiders too but look at what happened when everyone thought he’d come back to GM. Once these guys hear Al’s voice on the phone or whatever, they’re instantly reminded of how impossible it is to work for him. It’s just not worth it.
October 5th, 2009 at 10:50 am
Gerard “Money” Warren, lmao.
I have heard it all now.
October 5th, 2009 at 10:51 am
RaiderDogg, it’s scapegoat city. Al’s not going to be blamed, no matter what. So Russell is it. Russell drafted himself too, did you know that? Put himself into the starting lineup, and designed all of the plays! Damn your eyes, Russell!!!
October 5th, 2009 at 10:52 am
The defense is not even tackling they are j\putting their hands out “hand tackling” like they are playing flag football rather than knocking the $#!t out of someone.
The o-line was terrible they missed so many tackles.
It is insane to blame Russel for every loss. The WRs were dropping passes like crazy and breaking off routes. Either Walker is hurt or they are coaching fools to be playing both rookies.
This is a sacrifical year!!! I will see you in 2010.
October 5th, 2009 at 10:52 am
Sure are a lot of Raider fans on this Lakers blog…
October 5th, 2009 at 10:53 am
MR
So is it going to be Paul Hackett then? Al Davis hasn’t hired a defensive minded HC since John Madden, so I doubt that it would be John Marshall.
October 5th, 2009 at 10:54 am
Our playcalling was awful yesterday, as usual. Our offensive line stunk, too. A more experienced QB would have done a better job, but we still would have lost. Our defense, again, is playing like they don’t even practice. Just turning the switch on when they feel like it, usually when it’s too late. Not the Raider defense I saw in weeks one and two, where the switch was on from start to finish. They don’t look like they’re practicing hard.
October 5th, 2009 at 10:54 am
CJ Legend 34 Says:
October 5th, 2009 at 10:52 am
The defense is not even tackling they are j\putting their hands out “hand tackling” like they are playing flag football rather than knocking the $#!t out of someone.
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I bet the “hand-tackling” works like gold on McFadden in practice.
October 5th, 2009 at 10:55 am
In 2007 we got 1# pick we get jruss, Vikings at 7# get Peterson and 49ers 11# get Patrick Willis. Their good and we stink of course the O-Line is garbage again.
October 5th, 2009 at 10:55 am
Jhill-
Tommy Kelly had 13 tackles from the DT position tell me when was the last time you read that?
Gruden is NEVER coming back that ship has sailed.
If the Raiders fire Cable it will be sooner than later.
Jim Fassel(UFL)?
Randy Hanson?
Jim Marshall?
Ted Tollner?
As possible replacements but like everyone else says Al has to relinquish some power. Is Chaz ever coming back?
October 5th, 2009 at 10:56 am
Raiderdogg, it probably will be some puppet coordinator like Hackett. The only way we get Gruden is if Al guarantees him cheddar, and drafts a clause in the contract where he can’t fire him for cause, Kiffin style. Basically he can only be fired for cause if he shoots someone. He gets paid, pretty much no matter what. And it would have to be a King’s ransom, that probably Al couldn’t even afford right now.
October 5th, 2009 at 10:57 am
Here we go Lakers here we go!
boom
boom
Here we go Lakers here we go!
boom
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October 5th, 2009 at 10:57 am
For the first time in my life I have FINALLY realized this team will NEVER be respectable or garner respect until
Al “Shamed Us” Davis is no longer affiliated with the Raider organization. This, my brothers, is as bad as it gets…
October 5th, 2009 at 10:57 am
Cable should just predict a victory this weekend, Joe Namath style.
What the hell does he have to lose? Maybe, with a slim chance in hell, it will fire up the troops. Create some waves.
Obviously, the whole “we are so close” spiel isn’t working.
October 5th, 2009 at 10:58 am
Al just needs to sell the team to the Robiski cat in Los Angeles, so he can move the team back to L.A. New fresh start, new stadium, new ownership is exactly what this franchise needs.
October 5th, 2009 at 11:00 am
# The Big Banana Says:
October 5th, 2009 at 10:38 am
Next week we play the NFL’s 4th ranked offense and 1st ranked defense. Is there any mercy rule in the NFL? This could get ugly!
……
Like I said yesterday, we should just forfeit.
October 5th, 2009 at 11:00 am
If Cable is fired (hopefully soon), my money would be on Al rescuing Dennis Green from the California Redwoods UFL (Utterly Futile League) nonsense.
October 5th, 2009 at 11:00 am
I like the young talent they have on the team including Russel
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thats funny. Russell & talent in the same sentence.
usually every non Raider fan and even half of real Raider fans only use Russell & talent in the same sentence when the words “lack of” appear in front of the word talent…
JaWalrus is a bum. when 12/33, 128 yards and a lost fumble is your best game of the season you’ve got some real problems at the QB position. find some quotes from NFL professionals that suggest otherwise. you can’t
October 5th, 2009 at 11:00 am
Can you guys imagine how awesome the commentary would be here if the Raiders were a playoff contender?
Too bad we’ll never know. By the time it happens, the internet will be as obsolete as the telegraph.
October 5th, 2009 at 11:01 am
Be sure to catch Cable’s pressers this week where he blows sunshine about how they have a chance against NY, and about he can “see it”. Comedy gold.
October 5th, 2009 at 11:01 am
# Dakota Says:
October 5th, 2009 at 10:57 am
Here we go Lakers here we go!
boom
boom
Here we go Lakers here we go!
boom
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Here we go Dodgers here we go!
boom
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Here we go Dodgers here we go!
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October 5th, 2009 at 11:03 am
JaMarcus reminds me of Corky from ‘Life Goes On’ …
October 5th, 2009 at 11:04 am
Hey Scottish, I am going to the game this Thursday between the Redwoods and Locos. We got former Raiders Denny Green and Fassel coaching, as well as John Madsen as the starting TE for the “loco’s”.
I got 2 free tickets for donating blood, LOL
October 5th, 2009 at 11:05 am
Growing pains. LMFAO.
October 5th, 2009 at 11:10 am
Cardinals- Yankees in the fall classic
October 5th, 2009 at 11:14 am
Dodgers! Hell yeh. I’m not really a baseball fan at all but I hate all of these grumpy Giants fans in Sacramento. Dodgers and A’s are my teams. Remember when they played in the world series. I hope it’s the Dodgers and Yankees this year. Torre vs. Steinbrenner.
October 5th, 2009 at 11:15 am
How happy would raider fans be to see this headline.
“Davis sells raiders, raiders forfeit game to Giants next week to get new coaches into the system”
October 5th, 2009 at 11:15 am
Torre vs. Steinbrenner would be classic. Dodgers need to get beat the St. Louis first, we struggle against the Cards.
October 5th, 2009 at 11:16 am
Dennis Green would be decent ..and in comparison Excellent.
October 5th, 2009 at 11:16 am
RockStar, there’s no QB in the league that will save us. Russell is bad, but we’ll only do a little better. It’s our system. I could see if we just started losing when Russell became the starter. We’ve only been losing for 7 years…
October 5th, 2009 at 11:17 am
John Madsen….we once had great hopes for him as a WR. Another failed Raiders project.
Can we draft anybody who shows promise in the UFL?
October 5th, 2009 at 11:20 am
Respectability?
Only way is the following:
Mike Holmgren (wont happen)
Bill Cowher (wont happen)
Mike Shannahan (yes, Mike Shannahan, maybe Mike was right all along, it’s not as if he was a shabby coach)
Jon Gruden (wont happen)
So basically we are fn screwed!!
October 5th, 2009 at 11:23 am
We’ve had our one win for the year. The KC game is a toss-up. We’ll be a 2-14 this year best case. A top 5 pick again this year. Whoopie! So which speed burning safety will we go for?
Al Davis has destroyed a once proud organization. We have inferior leadership, inferior coaching and for the most part inferior players. Those skilled players are just here to put in some time and pick up a paycheck. Pathetic!
Davis is surrounded by YES men who are afraid to tell him that he is now part of the problem. Things are not going to get better as long as AD remains in control.
JaBustas is AD’s new Daryl Lamonica with Heywood-Bey being his new Cliff Branch. The vertical game lives in AD’s mind. AD has lost it and we fans are picking up the check for his dementia.
We’ve reached new more new lows. 60% of the O-line wouldn’t even make the practice squad of any other team. JR is a BUST. Bey is a nice kid but noy an NFL premier receiver. DMac is never going to be a premier RB, a slot WR maybe. We’ve been drafting badly. And, it won’t change as long as AD remains in control. He has no respect for linemen, LB’s or coaches. That’s a deadly combination in this league.
October 5th, 2009 at 11:23 am
VegasRaider predicts Cardinals, which means it will definitely be the Dodgers, the way his bets have been going this year! Dodgers-Yanks!
October 5th, 2009 at 11:25 am
Jerry, Goodell to interview Cable about Hanson incident. Where are you?
October 5th, 2009 at 11:26 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
October 5th, 2009 at 11:03 am
JaMarcus reminds me of Corky from ‘Life Goes On’ …
…….
So does Al Davis.
October 5th, 2009 at 11:27 am
Cable’s upcoming suspension and possible stay in the county pokie will be AD’s escape to our next interim HC. My thinking is that it will probably be Hackett. More of the same old schit will follow. The vicious cycle will continue.
Nothing changes until Al Davis goes. SSDD – that says it all.
October 5th, 2009 at 11:30 am
I though it couldn’t get any worse than the 90’s Raiders. It has, and it hurts.
October 5th, 2009 at 11:34 am
There are some things that even the kool-aid drinkers can’t deny. This
nightmare of a season will not end until they shovel the last dirt on the genius.
No player or coach will come to the rescue. No nothing until Al is history.
Who in their right mind wants to be a part of this craziness? All the theories
and wishes of the fans are just that, theories and wishes. Stop supporting the
crap period! I’m sure that most of you work hard for your money. Do you see
a return on your Raider investment? Tickets, hats, jerseys, timein front of the
tube? Al has been sucking up your bucks for years and you keep giving him
more. That is a definition of insanity. Doing the same thing over and over and
getting the same result but expecting another. Get over it and boycott the
organization. Stop showing up and throwing away your money. Would you be
giving it away to strangers on the street? Stop trying to figure out why and think about when, as in when Al is gone and the Raiders are run by people that want
to win and are ready to do what that takes I will consider spending my money
on the team. All you guys have more power than you think. Empty stands and
empty Raider Image stores speak louder than blogfests to the teams short-
comings anyday. Bye the way did you notice how JaPorkbutt was smiling on the
sidelines with his ear-candy bling blinging after one of his brilliant efforts?
This sh-t is disgusting on so many levels. Fu-k em!
October 5th, 2009 at 11:37 am
The new Madden sure sucks, doesn’t it? Just picked it up yesterday. It basically looks how all of these cheapened down web pages look. The playcalling menu, etc. The gameplay graphics seem worse than last year. All that’s better is the opening video. That exclusive contract between EA Sports and the NFL is ruining this game. There’s no incentive for them to improve, now.
October 5th, 2009 at 11:43 am
Halster, I think this year is the final straw. If the Raiders only win a couple more games this year, the season ticket accounts are going to plummet. It’ll be interesting to see how the league handles it. That’s all the Al Davis Raiders are good for, anymore. Theater. The failure of the football team, Al and Herrera’s militia compound-like antics, etc. Just one big sideshow. As in circus sideshow, not the kind you see in East Oakland on Saturday night. I wish Raider football were even that exciting.
October 5th, 2009 at 11:44 am
The new Madden is a lot better than 09.
That said, the exclusive contract is ruining the video game because there is no competition to make a better game.
October 5th, 2009 at 11:44 am
Is it just me or does Stanford Routt look lost on every play? Seems to me that he doen’t want to play. Lets get rid of his ass. Hate to say it, but I rather have Bowie play than this BUM!
October 5th, 2009 at 11:45 am
Hey Loco
I thought I was the only one who peeped that.
October 5th, 2009 at 11:45 am
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 5th, 2009 at 11:37 am
The new Madden sure sucks, doesn’t it? Just picked it up yesterday. It basically looks how all of these cheapened down web pages look. The playcalling menu, etc. The gameplay graphics seem worse than last year. All that’s better is the opening video. That exclusive contract between EA Sports and the NFL is ruining this game. There’s no incentive for them to improve, now.
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Not to mention I can’t stand Chris Collinsworthless.
October 5th, 2009 at 11:46 am
toward’s the end of the game i saw a shot of japoatroast on the sideline smirking and talking it looked like he was describing a woman with a nice azz
im not kidding that’s what it looked like this dosen’t seem to bother him at all.
but he has had 3 play callers o.c’s and two head coaches so if there was a potential al davis ruined it.
he is a bust…..
October 5th, 2009 at 11:46 am
This “team” is horrible.
Absolutely horrible.
JaMarcus is regressing,by this point he should be at least showing signs of progressing,but he’s not.
Plain and simple,this is what he is.
He needs to be benched to give this team any sort of a chance at winning.
But that will never happen…that would mean Al would have to admit that it was a mistake drafting him and we all know Al doesn’t make mistakes.
Not to mention the contract,how can you bench a guy who’s making that much…?Al cannot!
This organization has plummeted to the basement and will NEVER be good again until one of two things happen(or both),Al dies,or turns the reigns over to a competent GM and coach.
Al isn’t turning over ANYTHING so his passing will be the only thing that saves this once proud franchise.
October 5th, 2009 at 11:49 am
MRFan, I don’t see the improvements. I only see a cheapened version of ‘09. I don’t care if they added some stupid game play feature, like a triple fumble lateral, whatever. I’m interested in overall game play. And it stinks in ‘10 compared to ‘09. I’m going to give ‘10 a few more chances, and if I’m not satisfied I’m going to give it to one of my little cousins and switch back to my ‘09. I play in franchise mode anyway so I don’t need current players…especially with this Raider team. Ugh.
October 5th, 2009 at 11:51 am
I agree stop blaming the refs on the Raiders losing. They are horribe!!!!!
October 5th, 2009 at 11:51 am
Fire Cable after the season is over, but take away the play calling from him now!!
Cable sucks as a play caller.
October 5th, 2009 at 11:52 am
Who saw that safety coming??? I knew he was going to hand the ball off and so did the whole defense…what a joke!!!!!
October 5th, 2009 at 11:53 am
Wake up people!!!!!! No one is coming here that’s worth a sh*t until Davis dies.
October 5th, 2009 at 11:54 am
Losing Robert Gallery has really hurt us!
October 5th, 2009 at 11:55 am
Fire Cable?
Why?So we can get someone even worse?
Face it Cable is as good as we can do right now.
NOBODY WANTS TO WORK FOR AL!!!
Why would they?!
October 5th, 2009 at 11:55 am
Cable sucks at play calling!
Marshall is not the answer!!
The WRs coach should be fired now!!! Same for the LBs coach!!
October 5th, 2009 at 11:56 am
How about we make a move for Jon Kitna?
October 5th, 2009 at 11:57 am
351,
Not true!
Gilbride OC giants wanted the job. He is doing well!!
October 5th, 2009 at 12:02 pm
# DMAC Says:
October 5th, 2009 at 11:56 am
How about we make a move for Jon Kitna?
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I think Donald Hollas would be an improvement over JaCoco’s at this point.
October 5th, 2009 at 12:02 pm
The bottom line is………. Until Russell can prove that he can complete some passes, the Raiders will continue to lose because of the 8-9 men box stopping the run. You saw what all 3 RB’s did. I don’t care if we had Adrian P. back there. We wouldn’t be able to do S***. We need to pass, to set up the run. (and that’s not happening w/ Russ)
October 5th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
They need to get Barnes in at rught tackle. Move Green over to right guard when healthy. I think this would help the run game alot. Carlisle is washed up. No push at all. Also agree Cable should let someone else call plays and concentrate with helping the o-line. D played ok, need to mix it up a little more.
October 5th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
OFL71 Says:
October 5th, 2009 at 11:46 am
He (Russell) needs to be benched to give this team any sort of a chance at winning.
But that will never happen…that would mean Al would have to admit that it was a mistake drafting him and we all know Al doesn’t make mistakes.
…….
LOL. So true. But don’t forget the Kiffin factor. If he benches Russell, Kiffin wins.
October 5th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
RaiderO,the difference is if he came here he would have NO INPUT on personnel,assistants,drafts,and it would take maybe one season before he changed his mind.
Have you been following this team or what..?
October 5th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
Giants have a good o-lone. Hate to say it but how is the draft looking next year? We need to build the lines. O-line first three rounds unless there is a great value pick.
October 5th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
Einstein, I was watching a replay of the ‘94 regular season finale against Denver on NFL network, and Collinsworth was outright rooting for us. Getting mad at the refs for missing a PI penalty, etc. He does have that annoying, nasally voice, but he’s been caught Raidering a few times.
October 5th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
Actually it was the ‘93 regular season game against Denver, Einstein, the year where we played them at home in the final game, then again in the wild card.
October 5th, 2009 at 12:09 pm
We need to cut Routt. He’s a idiot on every play. Looks lost and unwilling to play. I’d rather play Bowie, than this clown!
October 5th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
Cable 5-12 as Raiders HC with like 8 blowout losses…
11-35 in college as a HC…
Very madden like huh Priesttj?
October 5th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
your right about Routt he is out there going which way did he go george which way did he go, everytime something bad happened the camera was on him and he was looking dumbfounded
October 5th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
MRFan, your point taken on the gang tackling, but that alone making it “way better” than ‘09? Please.
October 5th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
‘010 has so many better game play mechanics than 09. Finally I can actually gang tackle a player instead of him getting wrapped up, breaking said tackle and then running past my other 3 defenders standing there who can’t join the tackle.
So many times in 09 would a player get hit, break a tackle, hit the next defender whos standing around, break that tackle and then run for a huge gain.
010 is still terrible in certain ways, but its way way better than 09.
October 5th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 5th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
Actually it was the ‘93 regular season game against Denver, Einstein, the year where we played them at home in the final game, then again in the wild card.
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I was at that game in L.A. The home game (not the playoff game.) We had to win that game to go to the playoffs. Denver was kicking our butt. Elam missed a game winner, then we won in ot. Great game.
October 5th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
Well, I don’t really see how it has gotten worse in any way. The passing system is a lot better. You actually need to stay in the pocket now and such. (takes a bit getting use to, but its better in the long run)
Also, JR looked a lot better last game. Not like a pro football QB, but better than the last couple weeks. Now with some WR’s that could catch, a decent O-line and a running game (any) he could be a decent QB.
October 5th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
Jerry,
Thinking about going to a 49ers game to see what its like to win a game….
And take that to AL Davis!!!!!
October 5th, 2009 at 12:20 pm
Yeh, Einstein, you should have heard Collinsorth in the booth there rooting for us as hard as you were. If you have NFL network, watch for the show called Greatest 4th quarters, or something like that. They show the 4th quarter of that game as one of the segments.
October 5th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
We made Brian Cushing look like a pro bowler yesterday.
October 5th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
I wonder how much playing time Shannon Brown will average this season. Give him Sasha’s minutes Phil.
October 5th, 2009 at 12:24 pm
Poor Murphy. Second time he’s been fk’d.
October 5th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
I agree with you CJ Legend 34. Count me in as a pathetic Raiders’ fan.
October 5th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
Yeh, Raider O, like Tom Cable and Joe Bugel…
October 5th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
we are all pathetic raider fans, under al davis’s curse, he is the sole reason this team is in shambles there is no one else to blame but him. i can’t stand it anymore, out of 21 years we were only good when gruden was here that is pathetic, al davis has definitely lost touch of everything. i really can’t even pay attention to football after that game, i couldn’t watch any other team, cause everyone in the nfl is better than us even if there record doesn’t say so, all organizations in the nfl are superior than the sorry ass raiders, and i’m a die hard got half my arm tatted with raiders but it’s just so sad
October 5th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
****I feel pathetic being a Raiders fan*********
I really think a lot of you on this blog are in denial if you think that the only problem you have on this team is Russel. I bet you if you put him on any other team he would be a better player today. The same goes for McFadden, DHB and Murphy. Zach Miller would be on his way to a pro bowl. You can tell these guys lack of confidence in the game plan is so deep. In addition, the Raiders are not a team that develops superstars. They buy them by the millions and destroy them!!!!! There is a big difference in the two. A team like the Patriots evaluate a guy for a certain role than they expand his role on the team.
Now I will say Russell could do a heck of a lot more conditioning for the $ he was paid, but I saw WRs not running routes correctly. Veteran WRs sitting on the sidelines. A poor tackling defense, a poor o-line, poor coaching, poor schemes and very predictable on both sides of the ball. The special teams even looks like garbage. Gannon, was not developed as a Raider he was brought up as a Chief.
We are a lame bunch of fans if all we have going for us is name calling of Russel on Monday morning. Every QB we have will get crushed with our oline, WRs and lack of play. Being a Raider fan has become so pathetic! We can complain they do suck but to just complain about Russell like the rest of this team is golden is delusional.
October 5th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
Not trying to call you out, but name one in the last 20 years?
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Raider O Says:
October 5th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
OFL71,
He knew what the job was, and he wanted it. Some coaches don’t have a problem with Al’s ways.
October 5th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
OFL71,
He knew what the job was, and he wanted it. Some coaches don’t have a problem with Al’s ways.
October 5th, 2009 at 12:38 pm
The bottom line is………. Until Russell can prove that he can complete some passes, the Raiders will continue to lose because of the 8-9 men box stopping the run. You saw what all 3 RB’s did. I don’t care if we had Adrian P. back there. We wouldn’t be able to do S***. We need to pass, to set up the run. (and that’s not happening w/ Russ).
October 5th, 2009 at 12:47 pm
DMAC, Russell can’t do anything until we give him a playbook that includes more than just passing plays 10 yards deep and beyond. Ironically, we used such a playbook in week one. Then we suddenly lost it. Now all of our passing plays have receivers going 10 yards or further. With 8 men in the box, you can still run short passing plays. Also, 8 men in the box doesn’t necessarily stop the run, either. It helps against the run, but doesn’t stop it. SD was stacking the box, too, and we still jammed the ball down their throats. Run stopping defenses are rare. And defenses weak against the run can put 11 in the box and it won’t matter.
October 5th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
I got tickets for sell!….any remaining home games.
Any Eagles….Jets…Chiefs….Bengals…..fans want tickets…I got them!
Because I know Raider fans don’t want them!!!
October 5th, 2009 at 12:49 pm
Oh, CJ, Joe Bugel definitely didn’t mind Al’s ways. LOL.
October 5th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
Coaches who don’t mind Al’s ways tend to forget one of his ways, and that’s scapegoating the coach. They don’t figure that one out till they’re packing their things after the final game.
October 5th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
when will the raiders get smart and just cut our losses with this loser russell..he will never be a serviceable qb. he flat out sucks. this team will never achieve anything with this man on the team as a qb..lets make him a te or ol…i cant stand to watch our games. my die hard browns fan friend can even laugh at us..yea the wrs drop passes cuz they dont know what it feels like to have a russell throw actually reach them.
October 5th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
our run game cant start cuz we have no passing attack. no team is afraid of russell throwing the ball..130 yds and its a good game for him? gimme a break
October 5th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
# SC Says:
October 5th, 2009 at 12:48 pm
I got tickets for sell!….any remaining home games.
Any Eagles….Jets…Chiefs….Bengals…..fans want tickets…I got them!
Because I know Raider fans don’t want them!!!
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Nah, you will still see the same dudes dressed up like who knows what at the game.
October 5th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
RaiderO,
That may be but if that is the case then he doesn’t have a problem losing either.
The last time this team was successful was when Gruden was coach and Allen was GM and Davis backed off.
But Al couldn’t leave well enough alone and now we are where we are…7 years of abysmal football.
October 5th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
Are the Raiders still in the NFL? The high school team my son plays on could beat them.
October 5th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
I disagree that JaSubway would be a better QB on a different team. He just doesn’t have what it takes to be an NFL QB. So be it. If he does become a great QB I will be the FIRST one on this blog to eat crow and ask for assistance to remove my foot from my mouth. Until then, HE SUCKS. I also admit my loyalty for Al “Shames Us” Davis was unfounded, and I humbly accept a plat of Crow and a side of Nike to insert into my mouth. I don’t wish death upon anyone, but I do wish Al “Shames Us” Davis is no longer associated with the Raiders.
October 5th, 2009 at 1:08 pm
Al “Shames Us” Davis cares for only ONE thing in life, and that is himself. He doesn’t care about us fans, his coaches, even former great players. Including Marcus Allen and Tim Brown…. Say what you will, they were still GREAT RAIDERS.
For the FIRST time in my life, I will say, I HATE Al “Shames Us” Davis!!
October 5th, 2009 at 1:08 pm
There are a zillion ways to run a ball control offense against 8 and even 9 man fronts. It all depends on the personnel the D is using. If they’re using a 4th linebacker? You can pass short. You use a 3 receiver set and force their LB to cover a receiver? He’s getting open. And it’s not like Russell couldn’t him long either if he’s in one on one against a linebacker, with no safety in sight because the safety was playing up close. What Al is basically doing right now is using the heavy fronts we’re seeing as an excuse to deploy the vertical game, as if that’s the ONLY option against an 8 man front. Same old b.s. Davis shills need to stop trying to rationalize it. You guys think everyone’s stupid.
October 5th, 2009 at 1:10 pm
I can’t wait for Davis’ next press conference, how is he gonna deflect the blame this time. This team is rocketing towards the first overall pick (Taylor Mays) and another year of rebuilding, and does anybody actually see Al Davis navigating the uncapped season with saavy? I think the other 31 GM’s run circles around Al Davis during that possibly crucial off-season. Oh and dont forget, the Patriots are holding our 2011 top-ten pick.
October 5th, 2009 at 1:10 pm
CJ, Russell may be better on another team but I’d bet not a whole lot better, right now anyway. He’s shown his own flaws (coming in overweight; simple playbook; neglecting video study). After watching a few games of Sanchez, I dunno there’s something just not ‘there’ with JR. He’s gotta step it up pronto no matter the team. And I agree, the rest of the team is not golden either, not by a long shot!
October 5th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
And, if they use a DB as their 8th man in the box, we CAN run! Stop with the excuses for this 1960s playbook.
October 5th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
Don’t get me wrong,Davis is the reason the Raiders WERE great,but as much as he deserves credit for past glory he is just as much to blame for recent failure.
October 5th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
Guys, I wanted this year to be the beginning of something special, as I see it, this is a continuation of the past failures. Imo, the problem starts with the Al philosophy, personal, coaches, and Nfl referees. Al’s philosophy of vertical passing and pass coverage is out dated, I am finally realizing that what worked in the 70s and 80s cant work in 2009. CB and Safeties are faster, stronger, schemes are better executed. Al has been drafting track players rather than getting football players, our LB players dont know how to tackle along with CB and Safeties. We dont blitz and we do we suck on it, our DTs dont anticipate the run and get burned on play actions, I blame the coaches but we do need Lbs who know how to tackle. Many of our fans love Howard, Morrison and Brown, in reality they are weak, cant bounce from their blockers and cant tackle in the line of scrimmage. Offensively, we all knew last year that our OL sucked, we had a chance getting Monroe instead of DHB or Loadholt instead of Mitchell regardless what we did, Al always drafts speeds rather than football IQ and work ethics. Cable has no clue of calling plays, dude had a losing record last time he was a head coach, I think he is a good puppet for Al but needs to give up his play calling duties. Nfl referees are there to get us anytime they get a chance, we cant win when calls are always against us. Nevertheless, I blame our QB who has clearly regressed due to weak OL, zero running game and weak Wrs, yet, his attitude and work ethic portrays that he is a bust, has anyone heard that he got fined for showing up to meetings late?
October 5th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
# OFL71 Says:
October 5th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
Don’t get me wrong,Davis is the reason the Raiders WERE great,but as much as he deserves credit for past glory he is just as much to blame for recent failure.
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I was a “young buck” during the “greatness” days. Most of my fandome has been terrible seasons after dysfunctional seasons. Yet my loyalty for Al “Shames Us” Davis remained. NO LONGER. I will ALWAYS be a Raiders fan NO MATTER WHAT. But I am NO longer an Al “Shames Us” Davis supporter or fan!!! Don’t give me this crap that the Raiders are Al and Al is the Raiders (I used to use that line)
Al is a complete shame on this organization.
October 5th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
Like it or not Einstein,that is what it is.
October 5th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
Michael Huff was an Art Shell pick, not an Al Davis pick. Huff is due to make over $5 million next year. Hiram Eugene will be an unrestricted free agent. I think Routt is too. 2010 is uncapped. Wave goodbye to Walker, Eugene, Routt & Huff.
Goodell: With the #1 pick in the NFL Draft, the Oakland Raiders select Taylor Mays, USC
secondary – Asomugha, Johnson, Bowie, Mays, Branch & Mitchell
Higgins will be the “veteran” of the WR corps next year and probably still restricted to PR duties only
October 5th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
Hey RealMaddenRaider, It really pains me to say what I’ve said but jeezus,
I have watched this yearly train wreck for too damm many years. It doesn’t help
that as an OG(old guy) I saw Raider football when it was different, you know,
better. I can’t waste the time on Sundays for this looser crap. I am new to the blog as I retired recently and have more time for alot of stuff but watching my
team commit suicide week after week is more than I can take. I used to defend
the team and Al but no more. My daughter, a big fan, bought 2 box seats for the Saints pre-season game as a birthday gift for me. I had to tell her that I had a great time and that it ain’t easy being a Raider fan. I was pissed, not that they
lost a pre-season game, but that they phoned it in and right then I new we were
doomed to yet another season of crap. She put up $500.00 for the Raider
experience to boot. Am I pissed? Godammn right. So I told her that until either
they pull their heads out of wherever they are or Al is wormsmeat I am all the way with the Colts as a plan B. Prediction: Colts vs Giants in the SB and Peyton
beats Eli in a great game. It’s hard to hate Peyton Manning or Eli for that matter.
I really hate to put my team on the shelve but I don’t even have the strength to rag on the team or coaches. I reserve all that for Al Dogsh-t. I’m out
October 5th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
OFL, Davis deserves credit for the past glory as an owner. But as a meddling GM? I dunno. I have a VHS tape of SB 11. We use a ball control, running offense in that game. Our deepest passing play was to Freddy B but most of his yards were after the catch. Hit him in stride on a short timing route. Super Bowl 18, the Marcus Allen show. Handoff to Marcus, dumpoff to Marcus. All day. Not a vertical offense. So, I don’t know if I should give Al Davis credit for the overall management of football operations then, because it’s obvious to me someone else was running the show. I credit Al Davis for his success as a coach in the ’60s, as far as football operations go, and that’s about it. I don’t think he rightfully deserves the credit in other areas, because I don’t think he did the heavy lifting.
October 5th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
The end of our season
http://www.offerstone.com/
October 5th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
# OFL71 Says:
October 5th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
Like it or not Einstein,that is what it is.
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Yes, it sure it, and it is an absolute travesty and shame. Very sad.
October 5th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
headline: Raiders look everywhere but Russell
should have been “Raiders look everywhere for Russell”
Raider fans know he doesn’t show up on Sundays or Mondays.
October 5th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
halster-
i agree with what you are saying, but i am still gonna support the team. but instead of suffering through watching this unprepared, outcoached and uncompetitive team i will prolly spend most of my sundays golfing once the first quarters of these games is over.
i think it is not fair to the fans to pay that kind of money for a substandard product. if this team would compete week in and week out it would be a different story.
but this team, in large part because of its owner, is outmatched and simply overwhelmed EVERY WEEK. they have tremendous players (or potentially tremendous players) who will never come close to their potential unless the environment changes, which hasn’t happened since bruce allen and jon gruden were here.
the game has changed, but how the raiders go about their business has not. the result: the worst team in the league.
October 5th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
# MaineRaida Says:
October 5th, 2009 at 1:10 pm
CJ, Russell may be better on another team but I’d bet not a whole lot better, right now anyway. He’s shown his own flaws (coming in overweight; simple playbook; neglecting video study). After watching a few games of Sanchez, I dunno there’s something just not ‘there’ with JR.
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When he’s sitting on the bench after another 3 & out you see everything that is wrong with JR in a nutshell. Physical skills aside, this kid just does not understand what it takes to be a QB in this league. Yeah, the whole team sucks…but the QB is the face and leader of the team. When he just sits there with that blank stare it tells everyone else on the team that they don’t need to care, either.
October 5th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
bench Russell. sign Aaron Brooks! sign Shaun King!
somebody. anybody…
October 5th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
thats some funny schizzzitt,Exla
October 5th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
I think the phrase for Mr. Davis is- “If you love something, set it free.”
October 5th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 5th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
Michael Huff was an Art Shell pick, not an Al Davis pick.
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HA HA HA HA HA!!!! An “Art Shell pick”. You’re too much.
October 5th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
Who wants to take bets that Al dumps JRUSS and drafts Tim Tebow as our next QB? Of course, he’ll just suck as bad because once again we won’t use any draft picks on O-Line….
October 5th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
Since Jerry’s sleeping in….
Ch-ch-changes? Davis won’t take this kind of play for long
Scott Ostler
Monday, October 5, 2009
(10-04) 21:00 PDT — HOUSTON – You know things are going lousy for your team when the network TV people flash “MISCUES” on the screen, followed by a blooper reel of your bungled plays, and it’s not even halftime.
At least the TV folks didn’t add zany background music.
The bloopers continued in the second half, and the Raiders aren’t laughing. With Sunday’s 29-6 loss to the forever-struggling Houston Texans, the Raiders are the AFC’s fastest-moving southbound train.
What now? Coach Tom Cable maintains his confidence in his team. He found a few bright spots Sunday. Many of the players also were saying, essentially, “We’re close.”
But the team is 1-3 and the offense is in tatters.
Time for changes?
The guess here is that Raiders boss Al Davis is, uh, restless.
Unlikely: Davis is blaming himself for the team’s horrendous start and the wretched output of his three massively compensated young players: JaMarcus Russell, Darren McFadden and Darrius Heyward-Bey.
More likely: Davis is willing to spread the blame and is pondering changes. Such as:
New coach? Tom Cable is 5-11, and he’s the coordinator and play-caller for an offense that Sunday averaged about half as many yards per play as the Texans.
Davis fired Lane Kiffin last season after four games, but that was because Kiffin continuously defied and goaded Davis.
Cable is a good soldier, but the Raiders are 25-75 in their last 100 games. Though Cable can’t get the blame for all that ineptitude, Davis can fire only one head coach at a time.
Best guess, Cable survives at least until his team’s bye week, after Game 8.
New play-caller? Davis could “suggest” that Cable hand over his play-calling and/or offensive-coordinator duties. The way the offense was working Sunday, that laminated play sheet Cable used might as well have been a menu from Pappadeaux, the Southwestern seafood restaurant chain.
Who would call plays? Probably quarterbacks coach Paul Hackett.
New QB? It should be worrisome to Raiders fans that Sunday’s game was considered a step forward for Russell. He was 12-for-33 for 128 yards.
“I thought he played his best football all year in terms of where he is going with it and his presence and all of those things,” Cable said.
Russell, assessing his performance, said, “Obviously, it wasn’t good enough. I really thought I got some things done out there. Whatever it takes for us to win, I guess I must play better.”
Cable said he counted nine dropped Russell passes. I counted more like six, and Cable might be trying to boost Russell, who, in his best performance of ‘09, threw more way-wild balls than needle-threading QBs like Drew Brees throw in a season.
New wide receivers? I mean, really.
Sunday was ugly. Heyward-Bey caught one pass, dropped two and pulled up short on one long route. He would be voted most likely to take a temporary seat on the bench, with two catches in four games, but he’s the No. 1 draft pick, big money, Al’s baby.
Fellow rookie Louis Murphy has been the Raiders’ best wideout this season, but Sunday, he dropped at least four passes, a couple of which zipped through his hands as if the balls had been doctored by Gaylord Perry.
Waiting in the wings are Johnnie Lee Higgins and Javon Walker. Higgins was the team’s top wideout last season. He’s recovering (recovered?) from a shoulder injury. On Sunday, he got into the game for one scrimmage play, a run.
“He’s a little bit cautious right now, (we’re) trying to protect him a little,” Cable said.
Higgins ran back punts, a job that occasionally involves contact.
Walker was inactive for the third time in four games, although he swears he’s healthy as a horse, and at least one player said Walker has been looking great in practice.
When Cable was asked if Walker might figure into the team’s plans soon, he said, “He could. It’s more important to look at this (game).”
In other words, Walker remains in a strange Raiders limbo, a mystery man.
Al Davis might have been willing to write off this season as a building year for his team and his young offensive cornerstones and for his inexperienced head coach. But the building project has turned into a train wreck, and no way Davis takes it sitting down.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/10/04/SPJB1A1287.DTL
October 5th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
Anyone need some peace and harmony today? Check out the following:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=as7Y-mCiFaM&feature=channel
“One Day” by Matisyahu
October 5th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
Where are all you Al lovers now?
October 5th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
Tom Cable could find himself in a lot of trouble soon
October 5, 2009 | 7:18 am
Tom Yahoo Sports is reporting that Oakland Raiders Coach Tom Cable may be arrested soon for punching one of his then assistants, Randy Horner (MR edit..”Horner”? It’s Hanson, right?), in August and breaking his jaw.
You would think the NFL would suspend Cable if he is arrested, leaving the Raiders without a coach (well, without a guy to do what Al Davis tells him to do). “Everybody is trying to figure out who’s going to take over if Tom isn’t here,” one unnamed source told Yahoo Sports.
This comes on the heels of the San Francisco Chronicle’s Scott Ostler guessing that Davis might fire Cable anyway.
Yep, it’s a real shame the Raiders left town.
– Houston Mitchell
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2009/10/tom-cable-arrested-oakland-raiders.html
October 5th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
I think the LA Times’ Mitchell watched Boogie Nights recently, and had the name “Jack Horner” in his head.
October 5th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
Looking ahead:
Oct. 11 at New York Giants
Oct. 18 Philadelphia Eagles
Oct. 25 New York Jets
Nov. 1 at San Diego Chargers
Nov. 15 Kansas City Chiefs
Nov. 22 Cincinnati Bengals
Nov. 26 at Dallas Cowboys
Dec. 6 at Pittsburgh Steelers
Dec. 13 Washington Redskins
Dec. 20 at Denver Broncos
Dec. 27 at Cleveland Browns
Jan. 3 Baltimore Ravens
On current form, the only winnable games are at home to Kansas City, home to Cincinnati, home to Washington and away to Cleveland.
The very best we can hope for is a 5:11 season and the No5 draft pick in 2010.
Bye bye, Cable.
October 5th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
Where are all you Al lovers now?
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they are spreading the blame to his rookie WR’s rather than his prized possession franchise QB #1 overall pick in his 3rd NFL season
October 5th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
Cato, Tebow wouldn’t play here. He flat out wouldn’t show up. He’d pull an Eli Manning on us. And of course, Al would call his bluff, let him sit, and let the situation turn into a season long fiasco rather than wisely trade him for a decent run stopping team’s entire D line.
October 5th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
Who wants to take bets that Al dumps JRUSS and drafts Tim Tebow as our next QB?
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Cato,
Round 1 – trade down or take the best available tackle
Round 2 – best available center
Round 3 – best available guard
Round 4 – Tim Tebow
Round 5 thru 7 – who cares?
October 5th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
Tebow in Oakland…LOL. A white, southern bible thumper. That would work. And don’t you guys dare bring up Kenny Stabler. He came from an era where people kept their religion to themselves.
October 5th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
# RaiderRockstar Says:
October 5th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
Where are all you Al lovers now?
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they are spreading the blame to his rookie WR’s rather than his prized possession franchise QB #1 overall pick in his 3rd NFL season
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I think Al and JaBlowme probably have the same IQ.
October 5th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
Testimonial:
I wanted to let you know that the weeping Raider’s player monument was installed on Monday and we held a service for the Raider Nation to bless the monument. The Father said he has never seen any headstone like it. Everyone there thought the weeping Raider’s monument was absolutely beautiful. Words can’t express our thanks to you. We could never have created this without your help. We could never have had this done before Christmas without you. It really meant alot to Exlaraiderseasonticketholder to be able to present the monument to the Raider Nation before Christmas. It is a wonderfully beautiful tribute to the Raider season. You have been so very helpful and your carveman’s talent is unbelievable.
Thanks Again,
exlaraiderseasonticketholder
October 5th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
What’s the betting that Davis is dumb enough to draft Crabtree at No5 next year?
October 5th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
On current form, the only winnable games are at home to Kansas City, home to Cincinnati, home to Washington and away to Cleveland.
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Scottish: only if we bench Russell. otherwise we finish 2-14
October 5th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
new post barack worshippers …
October 5th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
I didn’t say it was a smart move to draft Tebow…I’m just saying that the kind of dumb move that the Raiders, er…Al…would make.
I got a better idea: How about if we draft the fastest receiver so he can blow by DBs at breakneck speed. Hopefully he can beat the DBs before the OLine collapses.
Oh wait, we already tried that draft move, too.
October 5th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
coulda had Aaron Rodgers in ‘05
coulda had Jay Cutler in ‘06
coulda had Adrian Peterson in ‘07
coulda had Joe Flacco in ‘08
one misfire after another,haven’t made a good first round pick since Namdi,Gallery is a bust as LT so he doesn’t count,you don’t take gaurds in the first round…
October 5th, 2009 at 2:48 pm
i just don’t understand what the coaches are seeing.. We all watch the games and see how off target Russell is. I mean he misses wide open receivers.. Murphy would of had a nice long TD if Russell could throw a pass to the player. Cable has got to go as well. the whole staff actually.. When you have a QB who can’t throw and a game breaking back like McFadden you don’t give him 7 touches on the day. Fargas is a favorite of the fans and the team but he is to small and does not have the talent that the other backs have. I don’t want to give up on my team but i find it hard to root for them. An i almost want to root against Russell so we can get him outta there.. I guess you can call me one upset Raider fan…
October 5th, 2009 at 3:01 pm
Real MaddenRaider, Got to give it to you about the old Raider football. The myth
of the socalled vertical game is just that, a myth con cocted by the media in reaction to the likes of Warren Wells, Cliff Branch and Tim Brown. The truth is that from the days of Lamonica, the Raider offense lived on a steady diet of
Short to medium passes over the middle, Screen passes to backs and tight ends
and a punnishing ground game that featured non flashy guys like Hewrit Dixon,
Pete Bannazak, Marv Hubbard and Mark VanEagan. Then and only then after the other team was fed that did the Raiders throw long. Lamonica threw alot to
Biletnikoff (a medium distance posession receiver). Tightends were used the same way except in Dave Caspers case as he could also go deep. Stabler was not you typical deep passer nor was Plunket. As I remember, Gannon was alot like the rest as far as the short and medium stuff. The media came up with the Mad Bomber nickname and the cliches haven’t stopped since. Al has always liked speed, but the teams greatest sucess came from the 3rd and 4th rounders that over achieved. I guess Al has bought into his own hpe and forgot how and who got him there. Ron Wolf was there most of the way and as we all saw what he did for Geen Bay when he went there. Ron Wolf was the guy that brought in the Willie Browns, Daryl Lamonicas and helped in the drafting of quality players that could make the team better. Al had a lot to do with the success but the myth has made Al bigger than life. The sad truth is that as time has passed Al has stood still and drank his own kool-aid. He is probably listening to old Bill King play by plays as he drinks from the cup. 10-4