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By Jon Becker
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October 5th, 2009 at 5:57 pm
SSDD – That says it all…
October 5th, 2009 at 6:06 pm
Dirt nap for Old Man Al!
October 5th, 2009 at 6:11 pm
No way Mike Singletary would be allowed to do his thing in Oakland, like he’s doing in SF.
No way any Coach in Oakland is allowed to develop anything organically in the locker-room between players and coaches. The stuff that produces fidelity, and emotional investment, esprit d’ corp. All the shyt that’s lacking in Oakland. All because Al Davis is shining the light on himself. Up in his office playing fantasy football with the Raiders.
October 5th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
Al Davis has junked the offense we had at the end of last year, in favor of his beloved “Vertical Game”. With the same results of the famed 2006 Bed & Breakfast schemes. QB hits & sacks, and a puppet coach.
October 5th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
Jim Harbough just texted me.
He had some great news but he made me promise not to tell anyone.
He will be the next coach of the Oakland Raiders and Jake the Snake will come out of retirement to lead us to the Stuporbowl!!
October 5th, 2009 at 6:28 pm
Jim has the same fire that ol fish eyes across the bay has. Jim will make JaPoppinFresh, MacFumbles and THC, err DHB push tires up a hill.
Remember that playoff game where Jim lead an amazing comeback. I cant recall the details but it was one of the best games I have ever seen.
October 5th, 2009 at 6:29 pm
Jim was playing for the Colts but I dont remember the other team
October 5th, 2009 at 6:35 pm
Can anybody break down the actual ownership of the team? Is there any possibility the other partners can revolt and take the team away from Al?
October 5th, 2009 at 6:40 pm
KK You need some new material. You have beat us half to death with the same cut n paste.
I know you can do it. Its in you.
Be groovy, think Tower Of Power
October 5th, 2009 at 7:04 pm
Brett is looking good tonight.
Rogers, not so good.
October 5th, 2009 at 7:05 pm
Fire cable!!! This team is as bad as it was under Art & Kittin, and is showing no signs of improvement!!
October 5th, 2009 at 7:06 pm
Chappy23us Says:
October 5th, 2009 at 6:35 pm
Can anybody break down the actual ownership of the team? Is there any possibility the other partners can revolt and take the team away from Al?
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Good question, maybe some of us can look into it. Rumor has it, he’s in need of another shot of cash. I would imagine it will come with strings attached.
October 5th, 2009 at 7:22 pm
I think AD owns 20% of the team. The remainder is owned by individual investors. AD Football INC. has a lifetime operational control management contract with the corporate Raiders. Al has, via his management contract, complete control over all aspects of the operation. The investors are there for a return on investment via profit sharing and/or sale of the team.
AD has the best of all worlds – total control and other people’s checkbooks.
October 5th, 2009 at 7:29 pm
Percy Harvin….Now that’s a rookie making plays.
Not the B.S that is served by Russell, DMAC, DHB, and company
WHERE’S THE COMMISSIONER?
October 5th, 2009 at 7:29 pm
There must be some route where the investors can claim he is no longer competent enough to run the organization. Just show the past 6 1/4 seasons games, the drafting of DHB, choosing Aaron Brooks (aaron stinking brooks WTF????) over drew brees, drafting DHB, the contracts of Tommy Kelly/Javon Walker, the Lane Kiffing press conference and that should get the job done. Dirt nap for Al!
October 5th, 2009 at 7:32 pm
fire cable… “we will eventually see it”??? what does that mean??? we see it every sunday!!!! what else is there to see!!! Jamarcus is not comfortable as a NFL QB… DMC is hurt!!! Conflict within the coaching staff… head coach punches assistant!
After following the team blindly into abyss, you would think there would be some resolution…week after week, you (AD) leave us thinking we are going in the right direction… I honestly, truly believe that you (AD) are trying to pull sheet over our eyes and attempt to relocate to a new city! In forcing us to not support the team and buying into to your product we are left to sit at home and leave the BLACK HOLE empty, leaving you no choice but to relocate. It is a pattern of yours Mr. Davis to low ball everyone that supports you…
October 5th, 2009 at 7:34 pm
This statistic makes it clear:
AP’s Josh Dubow, the best stats guy in the press room, reporters only three QBs have had games below 40 pct. All are named JaMarcus Russell
JaBUSTas lives… in Oakland. And, he thinks he’s doing just fine. This guy is one dumb SOB. Unfortunately for us, he’s OUR dumb SOB.
October 5th, 2009 at 7:35 pm
# chappy23us Says:
October 5th, 2009 at 7:29 pm
There must be some route where the investors can claim he is no longer competent enough to run the organization. Just show the past 6 1/4 seasons games, the drafting of DHB, choosing Aaron Brooks (aaron stinking brooks WTF????) over drew brees, drafting DHB, the contracts of Tommy Kelly/Javon Walker, the Lane Kiffing press conference and that should get the job done. Dirt nap for Al!
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Death is the only thing that can terminate the contract. If the investors don’t like what they’ve got they can sell. Hell, we don’t know how they are doing financially. The investors may be making a killing. Remember, ticket sales are only a small contributor to the bottomline. Worldwide sales of NFL trademarked products, TV contract sharing, luxury box revenue, etc. all goes towards the profits. Literally worldwide sales of Raider logo products is a large contributor. Raiders logo stuff is big outside this state & country.
October 5th, 2009 at 8:10 pm
Raiders 16 point underdogs to giants.
October 5th, 2009 at 8:26 pm
I don’t think there will be another sellout this season.
October 5th, 2009 at 8:28 pm
Wow. Pretty damaging statements by Boomer on JRussell.
And Cable didn’t vehemently deny it? Hmmm, rather curious.
Pretty damaging. Time will tell the full and true story I’m sure.
October 5th, 2009 at 8:33 pm
KoolKell,
In all seriousness…the Commissioner should look into the way Davis is running this team.
Even though there are heavy handed owners (Snyder, Jones, Brown)…those guys don’t get involved in game planning. They don’t tell the Defensive Coordinator what scheme to run…or co-write the offensive playbook.
Davis’ scouting methods are not even at a professional level and he exerts total control over draft and free agency.
The fact that no credible coaching prospect will even interview for the job highlights the very real and permenant barriers that Davis has erected.
Its pretty stupid to watch a team that you know is going to lose. And as these losing seasons continue to mount…eventually the Raider fan base will evaporate. We are starting to see it now. Its the utter lack of hope that things can get better because Davis will prevent it.
WHERE’S THE COMMISSIONER?
October 5th, 2009 at 8:35 pm
“eventually Understand”?
What Coach? that Al makes all the calls and is suffering from dementia?
That you are just another ‘puppet on a string’ roaming the sidelines?
That Jamarcus is very immature and too rich to care right now?
PUHLEEZE!
Maybe we can get moved to the CFL, where we can be competitive, cause this isn’t going to get any better like this…
October 5th, 2009 at 8:35 pm
# KoolKell Says:
October 5th, 2009 at 8:26 pm
I don’t think there will be another sellout this season.
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Please Kell, you will be there so yes there always will another sellout in the 2009 season
This team is garbage and all the Raider hating is fully justified now. I’m super pissed. Good nite yall!!
October 5th, 2009 at 8:36 pm
Terrapin,
Question for you.
If Russell was missing meetings and being consistently late, what do you think these guys would do:
Mike Singletary
Mike Tomlin
Bill Belicheck
Tony Sporano
Ken Whisenhunt
John Harbaugh
Tom Coughlin
K.C Coach
Josh McDaniels
Those coaches would send Russell to the bench or, in some cases, outright cut him (given his performance).
But Al Davis won’t allow it.
WHERE’S THE COMMISSIONER?
October 5th, 2009 at 8:38 pm
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
September 28th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
Mistabrown,
It won’t matter much. My enthusiasm for this team was sapped after last week. If they get smashed this weekend, I am done for the year.
I’ll watch the Giants/Eagles/49ers/Vikings/jets and simply follow the Raider score on the news crawl.
October 5th, 2009 at 8:47 pm
Will one of you morons ask Jerry about this FK’d up blog @ his live chat tomorrow?
Even better can at least 40 of you morons flood Jerry with the same question ?
October 5th, 2009 at 8:50 pm
Mistabrown,
I stand by that statement. I’ll make it very clear for your narrow mind.
I will watch good football this year. My enthusiasm for this team disappeared yesterday. Disappeared.
I will watch the nationally televised game in my area. Usually teams that are winning that play outstanding football and are well-prepared. I have a right to want to watch a team that tries and doesn’t quit on itself, its fans and the league.
I don’t live in the Bay Area…so I don’t share your hatred for the 49ers. I have a lot of respect for Mike Singletary and will follow that team closely. I think its inspiring to watch a team emulate the values of the coach.
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If you noticed, I said I will still follow the Raiders. Just won’t be going to the sports bar and throwing down money or traveling to road games…why should I? They have disrespected me by not even trying.
I owe you NOTHING!
October 5th, 2009 at 8:50 pm
Boomer’s comments if true are very damning, I would guess that some if not all are true. But when did they take place all this year or overthe course of his career?
I would assume he has been late to meetings and maybe missed one or two. And I think that is what resulted in Cable’s comments over a year ago. Early in Russell’s career I’m not sure how committed he was but in the past 12 months or more there has been definite change in his maturity and committment led by Tom Cable.
Sunday I saw a much more complete player than I saw ever before. Now we need to see continuous improvement and committment. Sunday we play one of the bttr teams in the league ad let’s see how he handles this task.
I saw him make soe very impressive throw Sunday and that needs to become more of the norm. IMO he has had only really one aweful game this year and we won that game. Sunday was by far his best and I’m holding judgment until Chaz comes back and we get the running game off the ground or on the ground.
A far as these distant media types making inflamatory remarks, I heard Cowher make a comment on Sunday and you had t knw that he hadn’t wtch a single down of that game. He said that Russell needed to be benched, I just said to myself thee’s another smug idot makng another idiotic remark. I gaurantee you he hadn’t seen a down all he saw wasthe stats. And this from the same dumbell who played Kordell Stewart for 7 years. The Steelers probably would’ve won 3 – 4 SB’s if he knew how to draft a QB. Tommy Maddox…lol.
October 5th, 2009 at 8:51 pm
Mistabrown,
A Davis lackey like yourself can gleefully go down with the ship.
WHERE’S THE COMMISSIONER?
October 5th, 2009 at 8:52 pm
Mistabrown,
It won’t matter much. My enthusiasm for this team was sapped after last week. If they get smashed this weekend, I am done for the year.
I’ll watch the Giants/Eagles/49ers/Vikings/jets and simply follow the Raider score on the news crawl.
October 5th, 2009 at 8:53 pm
Mistabrown,
It won’t matter much. My enthusiasm for this team was sapped after last week. If they get smashed this weekend, I am done for the year.
I’ll watch the Giants/Eagles/49ers/Vikings/jets and simply follow the Raider score on the news crawl.
WHERE’S THE COMMISSIONER?
October 5th, 2009 at 8:58 pm
SnB,
Obviously you have autism or some handicap so i’ll be nice about this.
The Commissioner is in NY. Thats where his office is located. Feel free to email him or hand write a letter. I bet he cant wait to hear from you.
FYI…its not his job or place to meddle with Ownership unless a violation has occurred. I realize you feel like a violation is happening but I assure you just because AL is has lost his way its no place for a commissioner to get involved.
You’re welcome.
Sincerely,
Mistabrown
October 5th, 2009 at 9:01 pm
I watched the first 8 minutes of the game, and turned it off. Still haven’t seen it.
I would imagine there is concern in the commissioner’s office, maybe even some back door communications. Because the franchise is simply not professional, on any level.
But, SnB the commissioner will be loathe to make any statements publicly.
Any new investors coming in to bail Davis out, I would imagine will get some guidance from the league.
October 5th, 2009 at 9:01 pm
By the way I dont even know what a lackey is nor will I google and find out.
FYI…I’ve been an Al Davis fan for a long long time but he clearly has butt fk’d this organization into the ground and I have no choice but to call it as I see it.
October 5th, 2009 at 9:05 pm
KK it takes a big man to admit he bailed on his team after only 8 mins I commend your loyalty.
October 5th, 2009 at 9:07 pm
KK, I watched it last night theOLine is an absolute mess. We can’t run and we haven’t put together a competent passing game.
Cable should’ve kept his nose to the grindstone. He has allowed this Oline to slip badly, technigue is lousy and effort is worse. If he can get that fixed we might see a preety decent team eventually. Because this defense has awesome potential. If we had an offense to support it, it could be dominant.
But IMO the Oline is the backbone of any team and this backbone is spineless.
October 5th, 2009 at 9:14 pm
Priesttj
I noticed the Raiders first play was a little hitch to a WR.
I noticed Bush had 3 carries, McFadden had 6 carries.
I noticed the pre-season was devoted to the passing game.
I noticed Al Davis tweaked the passing game this off-season to more vertical routes.
I noticed the first 4 games of this season have been devoted to getting the WR’s in the game.
I noticed Russell is taking more hits, straight dropbacks, aka 2006.
October 5th, 2009 at 9:15 pm
gruden for coach now
October 5th, 2009 at 9:16 pm
“If you understand football, if he’s getting better protection yesterday you’d see what I’m talking about. He was on target all but really two throws,” Cable said. “When you have that many drops – I think there were nine that I counted – if you put nine completions or at least the opportunity of nine completions on his deal, you’d say he might have been as good as anybody in pro football yesterday. If you know what you’re looking at.”
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Bingo.
WTF is Boomer Esiason talking about in that last post? He missed A (as in single) meeting? Big F-ing deal. He’s probably referring to last season when he missed that meeting with the TV broadcasters. Who cares? He came into camp overweight? Thanks for the newsflash. JaMarcus is at about the same weight he was in college. He’s fine. What is he, 6-6, 265 right now. Roethlisberger is what, 6-5, 250. Some guys are just built bigger and naturally have that weight.
Come on Boomer. Are you seriously getting a (HUGE) paycheck to come up with this drivel?
October 5th, 2009 at 9:23 pm
Mistabrown Says:
October 5th, 2009 at 4:54 pm
SnB,
Why didnt Cable say flat out “NO” JaMeatball hasnt been fined instead of “I’m not discussing internal matters” ?
lmao wake the F up!
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THE RESPONSE TO THAT QUESTION IS AS GOOD AS ” YES BUT AL TOLD ME NOT TO TELL YOU GUY’S ”
READ BETWEEN THE LINES.
October 5th, 2009 at 9:27 pm
SnB,
I appreciate the frustration, but …
If Goddell even talked to Al about how he needs to improve the Raiders’ performance let alone started meddling in how the organization is run or try a hostile takeover, Al would grab Goddell by his shirt collar, drag him out of his Manhattan office onto the toughest park in Brooklyn and box his ears.
October 5th, 2009 at 9:29 pm
Priest leave Cable alone he is doing what he’s told.
If Black Moses wasn’t skipping meetings, getting fat, and partying we might have a passing game!
October 5th, 2009 at 9:30 pm
KK, half the league plays a veticle style. We haven’t ran the football ad that is the beginning of our problems. The young QB and the young WR’s are very problematic. You simply cannot ask an offense this inexperienced to be productive without a running game…………..period WCO off. Vert Off. etal.
To be successful you MUST run the football…………period anything else with these babies is inexcusable.
October 5th, 2009 at 9:33 pm
I think AD owns 20% of the team. The remainder is owned by individual investors. AD Football INC. has a lifetime operational control management contract with the corporate Raiders. Al has, via his management contract, complete control over all aspects of the operation.
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Is this true?
Is there a lawyer amoungst us?
Seems to me that a management contract should be able to be broken. Maybe challenge the competency of the manager? Good of the team clauses or something? Demand that the CEO of Al Davis Inc be replaced?
There has GOT to be a legal angle here!
October 5th, 2009 at 9:33 pm
Black Moses hasdone a better job at his job than Tom Cable at this point. Black Moses has had all kinds of problems consistent with most young QB’s but Cable is hanging him out to dry.
Ge tht Oline fixed and run that 245bs. HB 25+ time a game and we’ll see how much what Russell eats matters. He’s played well enough to be 2 & 2. He’s not getting much help from anyone. Just a lot of blame.
October 5th, 2009 at 9:33 pm
“The toughest of all of Mr. Ford’s soul-searching comments to swallow is that he acknowledged he ignored NFL commissioner Roger Goodell’s offer of names to pursue for front-office leadership positions. He handed the all-important jobs of team president to Tom Lewand and general manager to Martin Mayhew despite neither having occupied the position in the past”
October 5th, 2009 at 9:35 pm
amoungst ????
lol
October 5th, 2009 at 9:38 pm
What more can you ask for?
Way to back up your commissioner banter, lol! I thought you were out of bounds with that stuff too, but ……
WHERE’S THE GAWD DAMN COMMISSIONER ?!?!?!?!?!!?
October 5th, 2009 at 9:39 pm
Even SNL is making fun of Barback..
After 9 months of consecutive months of higher unemployment that will happen.
Hope & Change!
October 5th, 2009 at 9:39 pm
Jhill, what are you guy’s smoking?? if something remotely like that were even possible. The Detroit Lions and the Cardinals would’ve been assisted YEARS ago.
Get a grip, will ya’?
Hell loook at Cleveland!! and KC!
October 5th, 2009 at 9:41 pm
We need a good lawyer to break the Al Davis Inc management contract, and we need the Commissioner to get involved with the new management team of the Raiders.
What could be better than a hand appointed GM from the commissioners office? I bet we start seeing some of those calls go our way!
October 5th, 2009 at 9:43 pm
Priest,
I didnt hear you criticize Black Moses for skipping meeting, being fined for being over weight, etc etc
Is there some reason why you ignore his work ethic and commitment ?
Your throwing the blame on Cable just like you did with Kiffin. You were on Kiffins nuts and then you threw him under the bus….u were on Cables nuts and now….he goes under the bus but JaMeatLoaf gets a pass!
Explain…
October 5th, 2009 at 9:45 pm
C’mon Priest lets have a discussion, no name calling from you act like a big boy….read #53 and get back to me.
Fraud..
October 5th, 2009 at 9:46 pm
Take a page out of the Al Davis highjacking the team book, lol!
Al is a minority owner now, BY FAR. There is NO WAY the other 80% of the owners should be able to NOT break the Al Davis Inc management contract!
THAT’s the next press conference I want to see. Talk about Cable having the balls to bench Cable, why don’t the MAJORITY ownership group ATTEMPT to get Al Davis Inc removed as GM?
October 5th, 2009 at 9:46 pm
Al Davis and his puppet coach went for a Bed & Breakfast redux.
Of course he’ll blame Cable for it.
October 5th, 2009 at 9:48 pm
I’m smoking Kush, Priest …
Not quite sure what those other 4 teams have to do with Al Davis Inc.
My point is 80% vs. 20%, see?
80 should be able to tell 20 to sit the fugg down somewhere!
80 should be able to tell Al Davis Inc the company to change the guy who’s running Al Davis Inc.
20 used to be more than 51, but now that he’s less than 80, he should not be able to make it 7 or 8 years in a row of 5 or less.
October 5th, 2009 at 9:49 pm
The reality of the Raiders’ struggles for the last 6+ years is that the team that went to the Super Bowl was comprised of a ton of older players (or guys near the end of their career): Gannon, Rice, Brown, Garner, Wheatley, Kennedy, Robbins, Romanowski, Rod Woodson, etc.
The first year of struggling was the realization that the run was over.
The 2 years after that the Raiders made a foray into free agency and tried to reload with a new veteran core of free agents made up of Kerry Collins, LaMont Jordan, Randy Moss, Warren Sapp, Derrick Burgess and a new coach in Norv Turner.
After that flopped it was the Art Shell Part II year which was a complete mess and brought the likes of Aaron Brooks, Andrew Walter, an incredibly bad offensive line and possibly the worst offensive team I’ve ever seen.
That brings us to the era we’re now in which began with Lane Kiffin but has carried over under Tom Cable. It’s the first wholesale attempt at rebuilding — particularly on offense — where JaMarcus, McFadden, Bush, Miller, Henderson, JLH, Schilens, Murphy and DHB are all in the start of their 1st, 2nd or 3rd season. It’ll take some patience to see if this group works out. Probably some of them will and some won’t and they’ll have to figure that out over time.
Throw out the Art Shell year and we’re really just in our 2nd attempt at rebuilding the roster since being in the Super Bowl. Sorry, but it’s still too early to have a verdict on those 1st, 2nd and 3rd year players.
October 5th, 2009 at 10:03 pm
KK, your football acumen is really lacking. There is nothing wrong with the design of the offense, we run more screens in one game than Art ran all year. The design isn’t the prblem at all. I love the design I hate the emphasis and that fact that we are asking two rookie WR’s and young inexperienced QB to carry this team. It’s assinine, the fact that it doesn’t or hasn’t worked should not be a surprse to anyone.
The emphasis throughout preseason and until nowshould’ve been on a physical running game and develope the passing game over the course of the year. Now that course if not executed well will not work either but it would take the load off the rookies and allowed them to develope with a lot less pressure.
This passing game is so much more advanced over Tom Walsh that a 5 year old could see the difference. Give me one go to WR and a running game an we can win half the games play.
October 5th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
Priesttj Says:
October 5th, 2009 at 10:03 pm
KK, your football acumen is really lacking.
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Is Al Davis 25-75 or is it KoolKell?
Gnite
October 5th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
# jhill Says:
October 5th, 2009 at 9:33 pm
I think AD owns 20% of the team. The remainder is owned by individual investors. AD Football INC. has a lifetime operational control management contract with the corporate Raiders. Al has, via his management contract, complete control over all aspects of the operation.
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Is this true?
Is there a lawyer amoungst us?
Seems to me that a management contract should be able to be broken. Maybe challenge the competency of the manager? Good of the team clauses or something? Demand that the CEO of Al Davis Inc be replaced?
There has GOT to be a legal angle here!
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There is. It’s called a certified death certificate.
October 5th, 2009 at 10:13 pm
You guys it has taken me a little over a full day to calm down enough from the absolute garbage I witnessed played at Reliant Stadium by the Oakland Raiders. I have calmed down, I have not watched the game tape, but after thinking about all the posts I have made here, all the football I have seen over the years, and knowing some of you want this debacle boiled down to one or two things, I think I have come up with the two reasons this has devolved into such a complete total fooking mess.
Number One, you have to put this on the players and NOT on the coaching staff. You really do. Why do I say this?? Well, the exact same things have happened with Callahan, Norphus, Shell II, Kiffin, and now Cable. If the exact same things happen with 5, count ‘em, FIVE different coaches, and those coaches have gone on to SD, U of Tennessee, U of Nebraska, and those same exact things DON’T HAPPEN, then it cannot by logic be the coaches. You have to wonder, why these players think it is acceptable to walk out in front of a viewing audience of millions and millions and millions of players, and perform like sh**. It BOGGLES the fooking mind!! I couldn’t perform like that in front of people! I would be too embarrassed. You would think at some point, that SOME level of personal pride would kick in, but for some reason, it doesn’t. IT DOESN’T!! THAT, is called leadership, or in our case, a severe lack thereof.
The second reason we are absolutely getting our asses KICKED, is organizational. We do NOT DRAFT PHYSICAL PLAYERS! We draft speed guys. We have speed at corner, speed at safety, speed at LB, speed at WR, speed at RB, speed at TE. We even have smaller athletic offensive linemen. Problem with that is the TEAMS THAT WIN ARE PHYSICAL TEAMS!!!!!!!! Look at Pittsburgh, Baltimore, SD, Arizona New York Giants, Philly!! Denver came out to midfield to fight us two weeks ago before the game even started, and our team folded faster than Superman on Laundry day! Look at the Whiners! Singletary wants a physical fooking team, and they are 3-1. We don’t have physical players!! Name one. Kelly??? No. Warren??? Barely. Morrison was drafted for his speed. Where on earth did anyone EVER rate Morrison as a physical presence?? Howard?? He’s a another speed guy. Who is the phyical presence on either side of the ball??? THERE ISN’T ONE! We haven’t had a physical team here since Romanowski, Rod and Charles Woodson, Rice, Gannon, Robbins and Wheatley. Any other questions??
October 5th, 2009 at 10:16 pm
Chris in NY, thanks for a sober thought and so well delineated. Everyone is making harsh assumptions an I understand the frustration. But all we’re see is the struggles of an inexperienced offense learning and getting thir feet under them. This is going to take all year…….sorry to be the barrer of bad news but it’s true.
This time next year this team will be much more competitive………..period that’s just reality.
October 5th, 2009 at 10:17 pm
Jhill
You are not getting it. In order for any investor to buy into the Raiders, they had to agree to the AD Football Inc. lifetime management contract that was in place. Knowing AD & his vast numbers of attorneys, I’n sure the contract is locktight and in-effect until Uncle Al bites the big one. It’s not 80% vs. 20% it 100% of ownership held totally captive by the management contract. The Commissioner has no jurisdiction over AD Football INC. The fans have no standing to sue or take legal action. Only the owners do and they would lose hands down because they signed up with full knowledge of the contract in-place and most likely had to agree to its terms & conditions in order to but into ownership of the Raiders.
October 5th, 2009 at 10:19 pm
Chris,
Excellent points. I thought we were still 1 year away. When they got RS I thought that timetable sped up. We are still 1 year away IMO.
October 5th, 2009 at 10:20 pm
Priest you are just dum as sh|t.
# priesttj Says:
October 5th, 2009 at 10:16 pm
This time next year this team will be much more competitive………..period that’s just reality.
October 5th, 2009 at 10:24 pm
Every year we are 1 year away and then a new coach!
That all blows up & the dumbest fans in america again say we are 1 year away. And then you declare every draft pic a future HOF’er. And then 4-12. And then you say “we are 1 year away”. And then repeat the process…
In the mean time you dismiss your incompetent Qb and throw the coach under the bus..
You kinda people never get tired of ramming your head into a wall do you ?
October 5th, 2009 at 10:26 pm
If anybody can read Oakglens entire post without falling asleep I will send you a 25.00 gift certificate for Blockbuster. If you can condense that garbage into 1 paragraph I’ll send another 25.00 for Chili’s.
Any takers ?
October 5th, 2009 at 10:26 pm
JB,
All I can say is I hope there is a million dollar lawyer out there who can beat Al’s lawyers in court. I think the publicity of the whole thing might be enough to shake Al of himself. Would he really take the Raiders through that kind of drama? City of Oakland, LA, the NFL I can see. He’s doing that on behalf of the Raiders. Do you really think he would subject himself to a public fight against the Raiders?
Aw heck, I probably am reaching.
October 5th, 2009 at 10:28 pm
Priest,you can’t be serious?no way has JR done his job better than Cable has done his.a big part of the reason it seems Cable hasn’t done an acceptable job is the terrible play by our QB.you can’t vary the off. and open up the playbook when your QB is playing as bad as JR has been.as i watched the game tonight,i couldn’t help but wonder how good this team would be if we had either of the QBs in the Mon. night game.i’m not saying JR can’t get there,but as of now one has to really wonder!!
October 5th, 2009 at 10:29 pm
# Oakglenn Says:
June 5th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
Alston is a savvy guy. He should play well for us.
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Oakglenn Says:
June 8th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
Anyone with half a brain can see that Jamarcus Russell is a bonafide franchise Q.
October 5th, 2009 at 10:30 pm
WOW! Our spin-doctor, propaganda-spewing coach even admits the offense doesn’t have a leader? WOW!! Greg Ellis having talks with the offensive guys? Even you JR supporters have to admit that is troublesome.
Is there anyone left out there that is still making batches of kool-aid? Can’t imagine so….
I know it could be false, but if there’s any truth to the assertion that JR missed meetings and has been late to others…if there’s even a grain of truth to that, then this kid just doesn’t get it and will never get it. WOW!!
October 5th, 2009 at 10:33 pm
Lefty12, come on man, I would love either of those two as well. Who wouldn’t??
You’re talking as if I’m praising Russell or something……just the opposite. I however do see serious improvement but he has along way to go. Those two rookies aren’t making his job any easier though.
If Russell last two gams had resembled the KC disaster everyone would hve point. But this last outing was his best effort this year. Now if he continues to improve we may have something….So we’ll see.
October 5th, 2009 at 10:33 pm
Chris
good analysis, i think you are right that it is way too early to pass judgement on this team. I remember everyone wanting to cut Mario Henderson. Now look at him. It looks like he is heading in the right direction and could be a cornerstone for this franchise. I think that we have to give these guys more time. We are heading in the right direction. My only concerns are that Sanjai Lal is still on the staff supervising the most inexperienced group (WR’s). I also think that Cable is pushing a bit too much. I’d like to see Cable focus on overall offensive strategy and rebuilding the line. Have Tolliner calling the plays but also take over as WR coach. Hackett continues working with JRuss.
I’ll be the first to say it…….Raiders will beat the Giants this week. NY is looking past Oakland at the Saints and we have some solid matchups if we can get this line figured out. Barnes at RT, Morris at C and move Satele to LG.
October 5th, 2009 at 10:35 pm
# Mistabrown Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 11:10 pm
Trevor Scott had a horrible game. Is Richardson hurt or inactive I dont remember seeing him for a couple weeks.
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Richardson had a sack in the 2nd half. But of course, You actually have to watch the games. The Raiders are the team dressed in silver and black. you were watching the Browns lose.
October 5th, 2009 at 10:36 pm
Farve was a thing of beauty tonight. Misdirection looks and pump fakes all over the place. We need a real quarterback.
October 5th, 2009 at 10:37 pm
How’s Brady Quinn do mista browns fan?? Oh right, he’s on the bench. But your boy Mark Sanchez looked good. Oh right, he had two pix and another fumble that all went for TD’s. Stick with Brady Quinn mista browns fan.
October 5th, 2009 at 10:39 pm
i’d like to see Big Red at LG until Gallery gets back.he has a mean streak in him that we need.too bad that for some reason Cable doesn’t seem to like the guy.
October 5th, 2009 at 10:40 pm
hey news just trying to be positive, do you get the concept that when you think like a loser it makes it easier to be a loser? If i didn’t stay positive i’d just move on to a different team. Your telling me that the Giants are unbeatable?
October 5th, 2009 at 10:40 pm
Say mista browns fan, I guess you spent the game wandering around your house trying to find the Browns hat you bought wandering the Oakland Coliseum last game. I guess that explains why you don’t EVER know what happens in the games. And all these years, I thought you were just stupid.
October 5th, 2009 at 10:41 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 5th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
Priesttj Says:
October 5th, 2009 at 10:03 pm
KK, your football acumen is really lacking.
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Is Al Davis 25-75 or is it KoolKell?
Gnite
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DAM!!! LOL!!!
October 5th, 2009 at 10:42 pm
Lefty12, Cable shies away from drive blocking types. When he cut Marcus Johnson the RG in preseason it really pissed me off but he is who he is. He just doesn’t wat physical drive blocking types and the what McQ is. That’s why he stayed with K Harris soooo freakin’ long. Mario is much more physical and imposing. Carlisle is a technician and that’s the only reason he starts. You just don’t pass on the the Olineman that were in this draft if you want a physical Oline, you just don’t.
October 5th, 2009 at 10:43 pm
Priest,as fans we really don’t have much choice with JR.he is going to play come hell or high water.the question is how much time does he get?and saying he got better the last game isn’t saying much-he couldn’t have gotten much worse.it actually seems as if we are sacrificing the season to get the young guys experience.which wouldn’t be so bad if the team came out and admitted that giving the young players exp. was the main object this tear.
October 5th, 2009 at 10:43 pm
I’ll be the first to say it…….Raiders will beat the Giants this week. NY is looking past Oakland at the Saints and we have some solid matchups if we can get this line figured out. Barnes at RT, Morris at C and move Satele to LG.
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Please tell me you’re joking….I guess that answers my question as to whether or not there is still kool-aid being passed around. LOL…some of you guys are hilarious….
October 5th, 2009 at 10:44 pm
Do you even know what team is dressed in Silver and black mistabrowns fan?? And I will give you a hint: It’s not the Cleveland Browns.
October 5th, 2009 at 10:48 pm
Oakglen, do you even realize how stupid you look asserting I watched the Browns game or I’m a Browns fan.
I’m guessing you have no clue as to how much of a dipsh!t you look like, dont stop!
October 5th, 2009 at 10:48 pm
# Mistabrown Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 11:10 pm
Trevor Scott had a horrible game. Is Richardson hurt or inactive I dont remember seeing him for a couple weeks.
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You don’t even have ANY idea what is going on out there. The last time I called you on it, you claimed you spend basically the 2nd half trying to buy a Browns hat. Why do you think anyone takes anything you think seriously?? You are a joke. But just so you know, Jay Richardson was the one in the black jersey and silver pants the last few weeks with #98 on it.
October 5th, 2009 at 10:49 pm
DT42 Says:
October 5th, 2009 at 10:40 pm
hey news just trying to be positive, do you get the concept that when you think like a loser it makes it easier to be a loser? If i didn’t stay positive i’d just move on to a different team. Your telling me that the Giants are unbeatable?
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Hey man. More power to you. Are the Giants unbeatable? No. Are the Raiders the team to beat them? No. We are last in total offense, averaging 206 yards/game. The Giants are 1st in overall defense. That to me spells NIGHTMARE for our team. We can’t even move the ball against the team that was LAST in Def (Houston).
The Giants also happen to be 4th in overall offense.
I hope the Raiders turn it around man but I just don’t see it right now, and especially against the Giants, in their house.
A LOT needs to happen before this team can win again. Oh, and thinking like a winner/loser makes no difference when you’re a fan. Most of us are just being real. It’s the PLAYERS that need to think they can go out and beat every team, week in week out. Most of us fans are just being real. Calling it like we see it and just real frustrated over all the losing and futility. I’m a long time Raider fan, man. I’ve spent my money supporting this team. I’M PISSED!
October 5th, 2009 at 10:51 pm
Oak, I’m srting to hate T Scott, all he ever wants to do is rush the QB. You can run screens to his side all day long and wont make a play. I’m starting to really sour on this kid he just doesn’t get it.
That screen for the TD to his side was inexcusable. He saw it develope and he just made a halfhearted effort. It was disgusting.
October 5th, 2009 at 10:53 pm
# alisgod Says:
October 5th, 2009 at 10:19 pm
“We are still 1 year away IMO.”
……..
One year away from being disbanded.
October 5th, 2009 at 10:56 pm
Lefty12, You’re kiddin right?? why would ateam admit something like that?? You’d have fans bailing on this team left and right and waiting until next year.
It’s obvious what they are doing but don’t expect them to admit it, that is suicide.
October 5th, 2009 at 10:57 pm
# Kirk Says:
October 5th, 2009 at 10:36 pm
Farve was a thing of beauty tonight. Misdirection looks and pump fakes all over the place. We need a real quarterback.
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Kirk, mista browns fan thinks Favre is a mediocre Q. Ask him. Even tho Favre owns EVERY passing record in the NFL.
When you look at the teams today, there was a play early in the game, where Clifton went to cut jared Allen, who stayed on his feet, came unblocked, sacked and stripped Aaron
Rogers which basically set up the rout. If that was our team, our guy would have gone to the ground, stayed there, and that would have been a 20+ yard completion.
Later in the game, Charles Woodson comes up, is blocked by a TE, beats his guy and trips up Adrian Peterson for a loss. If that was our guy, Woodson would have been blown 5 yards back, AP would have cut up, past the LB, past the support and one of the defenders from the far side would have had to come make the play 40 yards downs field. THAT, is the difference between those teams and ours.
October 5th, 2009 at 11:04 pm
The giants struggled against the Skins, beat the ‘Boys shut out the Bucs (just like everyone else) and beat KC. Sorry i’m not that impressed. Am i supposed to be? I’m also not impressed with a QB who is injured and couldn’t even step into a throw. I’m not impressed with a team that might rest him to get him ready against a very good Saints team. I’m not impressed with Steve Smith, Hakim Nicks or Mario Maningham vs our DB’s. As far as Houston goes if you take away some of the explosive plays that they have given up they are a very competitive team. This is the type of game that teams overlook.
But your right a lot has to change for this team to be a consistent winner. But you know what? What the hell was i thinking, say anything positive around here and you get your head chewed off. I’ll go drink some Kool Aid now. Sorry to hurt your feelings.
October 5th, 2009 at 11:05 pm
Priest I really don’t like to comment until I watch the game tape but I don’t disagree. Just off the top of my head tho, I thought Chris Johnson had the WORST first half of football I have ever seen in my life. And I have watched Russian car mechanics try to play American football.
October 5th, 2009 at 11:07 pm
GROWING PAINS, are just that painful.
October 5th, 2009 at 11:10 pm
Priest,it seems the so called fans are already bailing so it couldn’t hurt.some of the “experts”(and i don’t mean network people) might even realize what is happening..what is funny to me is most knew we probably weren’t a contending team this year and they still act like the end of the world because we aren’t kicking everyones rear.
October 5th, 2009 at 11:10 pm
“6′6, 265″? That dude was closer to 300 lbs at the start of training camp. I seriously doubt he has lost 35lbs since then.
October 5th, 2009 at 11:16 pm
That’s their jobs Left, they have to create contraversy or else they think they lose ratings. But Russell is getting better but he needs at least another offseason program with Hackett. If you notice he tries to be fundamentaly sound but it causes him to be late in his pocessions a because he has to concentrate on his footwork. That will come naturally at some point but he’s not there yet.
And these WR’s are thinking a lot more than they are playing which causes them to be late. This is a long drawn out process.
October 5th, 2009 at 11:19 pm
The NY Giants are a VERY VERY PHYSICAL team. They have been that way since the 1950’s with Sam Huff, thru the 80’s Carson/Taylor/Burt era up to now. We are a very very very very non physical team, that wilts at the thought of playing physically until we fold and teams let up on us. Expect an early beat down, like the other physical teams put on us.
October 5th, 2009 at 11:21 pm
Houston’s run defense is ranked 29th in the league. Pretty pathetic.
October 5th, 2009 at 11:24 pm
And they beat us at the line of scrimmage on both sides like we were bongos.
October 5th, 2009 at 11:24 pm
Give me ONE go to WR and a running game.
October 5th, 2009 at 11:27 pm
Mr.
How many times must I body slam you before you give up? Thought you had enough by now. Go away you little shcytt. Get a life.
You’re starting to sound like one of those ladies on the View.
October 5th, 2009 at 11:27 pm
Oh by the way Mr.
You still got the JR jersey you claimed you bought 2 weeks ago? You in or out? Which way you flopping tonite biatch?
October 5th, 2009 at 11:29 pm
Priesttj,
You are absolutely correct. We have 2 rookies playing WR. 2 key guys on the O are out. Until they come back in, I will reserve judgement because the entire skills team are way too inexperienced.
October 5th, 2009 at 11:29 pm
We need physical players on the lines of scrimmage. Last year instead of drafting Dmac, I was screaming for Sedrick Ellis the DT from USC. New Orleans traded up to get him. Ellis got hurt his rookie year but played the run very very well and ended a shortened rookie year with 4 sacks from the DT position. New Orleans is very pleased with his production they are dominating the LOS and they are winning.
This draft I wanted Eugene Monroe the OT that Joke-sonville grabbed right behind us at 8th overall. Monroe was so good at Virginia he kept Branden Albert at guard, where KC drafted him last year, moved him to OT and he has been doing fine. That says something about Eugene Monroe right there. He should be an immediate starter. What kind of production have we been getting at the number 7th overall selection?
October 5th, 2009 at 11:33 pm
Oak,
Be patient bro. Everyone thought they’d be happy with 7-9 or 8-8 and all the sudden now they sound as if we were supposed to be 10-6. next year they will address the Oline because that is the only unit left that has yet to be addressed. You got Mario and Gallery to build around on that line. Guarantee you Al will pick up a big name free agent in the offseason for the line. I’m still waiting to see what Barnes can do for us.
October 5th, 2009 at 11:34 pm
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
October 5th, 2009 at 4:45 pm
The Raiders actually have a chance against the Giants with the McFadden injury.
Hopefully the Cable channels the Tampa playbook and gives Bush the 25+ times….regardless of the outcome.
As for Russell….if those comments are true….why is he (Russell) still on the roster. I would straight cut him with cause! Cut him..If he is really pulling that bullsh&&T CUT HIM!
See, its the environment in Oakland. No way Russell pulls that sh**& if there was a real coach with authority.
Oh, if Cable gets arrested, which would be devastating for the man’s family….the Raiders themselves will survive. Give Tollner the playcalling and make Hackett the head coach.
Then, hopefully, Davis has an epiphany and realizes he needs to back off when he doesn’t get anyone to interview for the job at year end
Summary:
Green & McFadden will be upgraded while they rehab…and the Raiders now have a better chance to win
Russell should be cut immediately if Boomer’s statments are true
Cable going to jail will have a similiar effect that the Green/DMAC injuries will have
Davis remains the worst person in professional sports!
^^^^^^^^Interesting how when Boomers comments were mentioned to Cable, he basically admitted to it with the lame answer about internal stuff.
WOW! Russell needs to be benched and Gradkowski needs to start and the Raiders better be prepared to cut their losses with Russell and maybe draft Clausen or Locker in next years draft if possible.
Or draft heavily on the O and D Lines.
October 5th, 2009 at 11:35 pm
One thing I have noticed that is very positive is that Jay Rich has gotten a lot better under Board n so has Kelly an Warren were dominant inside. Ellis is everything we could’ve hoped for. This Dline is on it’s way to gelling. Now if we could get Morrison and Co. on board. Our secondary is a shade under elite with Huff playing the way he is and Branch is just a player.
All I want for the new season is MLB and a center and ORT. We have a very good ORG (Paul McQuistan) all we need to do is get the coach to play him. I would’ve killed to get Eric Woods at center from Louisville.
October 6th, 2009 at 12:02 am
Priest,earlier you stated how you don’t like Scott.you do realize one of the sacks Ellis got last game was caused by Scott taking on 2 blockers and still flushing the QB into Ellis?
October 6th, 2009 at 12:07 am
Speaking of MLBs,it will be interesting to see how often Cushing is flagged this year for blows to the head.he did it at least 3 times against us and wasn’t called once.one time after he smacked our QB in the head,the official had words with him,but naturally he didn’t throw a flag.
October 6th, 2009 at 12:36 am
# jhill Says:
October 5th, 2009 at 10:26 pm
JB,
All I can say is I hope there is a million dollar lawyer out there who can beat Al’s lawyers in court. I think the publicity of the whole thing might be enough to shake Al of himself. Would he really take the Raiders through that kind of drama? City of Oakland, LA, the NFL I can see. He’s doing that on behalf of the Raiders. Do you really think he would subject himself to a public fight against the Raiders?
Aw heck, I probably am reaching.
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Nobody in their right mind would file a losing lawsuit especially if you ended up paying for his legal defense – which you would. Death is the only way that contract ends.
October 6th, 2009 at 12:43 am
# Oakglenn Says:
October 5th, 2009 at 11:29 pm
We need physical players on the lines of scrimmage. Last year instead of drafting Dmac, I was screaming for Sedrick Ellis the DT from USC. New Orleans traded up to get him. Ellis got hurt his rookie year but played the run very very well and ended a shortened rookie year with 4 sacks from the DT position. New Orleans is very pleased with his production they are dominating the LOS and they are winning.
This draft I wanted Eugene Monroe the OT that Joke-sonville grabbed right behind us at 8th overall. Monroe was so good at Virginia he kept Branden Albert at guard, where KC drafted him last year, moved him to OT and he has been doing fine. That says something about Eugene Monroe right there. He should be an immediate starter. What kind of production have we been getting at the number 7th overall selection?
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I totally agree and wanted the same choices. Enough with the ZBS. We need power smash-mouth players like we’ve had in the past good years.
October 6th, 2009 at 12:45 am
Did any one you guys watch the MNF?
Rodgers was running for his life … crappy OL, no running game, 19 sacks leads the league YET he was able to throw TDs and over 300 yds.
So please don’t give me any more JaMarcus excuses … I think I heard over 1000 of them. Let’s face it he is a bust and I bet the team has stopped playing because of him.
The Dmac situation can be fixed … Tiki had problems fumbling early in his career or how about the best RB in the league Peterson has the MOST fumbles by any RB in the last 3 years … I don’t hear anyone calling him a bust.
Leftwich and Quinn have been benched already for a couple of bad starts and both teams played better this week and almost won. Benched JaMarcus and I would bet the Raiders win. Seriously … it’s a disgrace to the NFL that JR is playing QB.
October 6th, 2009 at 12:57 am
# priesttj Says:
October 5th, 2009 at 11:16 pm
That’s their jobs Left, they have to create contraversy or else they think they lose ratings.
…………
Are you talking about the Raiders?
October 6th, 2009 at 12:59 am
# alisgod Says:
October 5th, 2009 at 11:27 pm
“You’re starting to sound like one of those ladies on the View.”
…….
Even they know more about football than you.
October 6th, 2009 at 1:01 am
For those of you still on the JR bandwagon … look at the Bengals last year. No QB … Palmer missed the whole season … terrible record. This year the Bengals basically the same team minus a good WR (TJ gone) are 3-1 with Palmer and actually should be 4-0.
A good QB makes the team look good … JaMarcus is the worst QB in the NFL and the Raiders ARE the worst team in the league now.
October 6th, 2009 at 1:07 am
AlisGod,
I was in after the SD game. Why shouldn’t I have been? Liked what Cable was doing. KC game, too. We were gameplanning realistically, to develop the personnel that we have. Starting with the Denver game, however, we suddenly go to this playbook as if we’re the ‘83 Raiders. The attempt to ban Gannon was just embarrassing. I support the Raiders when they’re doing what’s right. I don’t when they’re not. It’s that simple. I’m not like you. I don’t support them when they’re doing everything wrong, then start getting all angry at other fans for not supporting them. And, I never really bought a Russell jersey. The last thing I’d spend 200 dollars on these days is a stupid Raider jersey. Are you kidding? Haven’t spent a dime on this team since the Gruden trade. Won’t again till we make the playoffs. Nobody else should, either. And, thousands more Raider fans are doing what I’m doing every year. That makes you angry, doesn’t it? In the time it took you to read this, 10 season ticket holders decided to sell the rest of their tickets year, and cancel their accounts after the season.
October 6th, 2009 at 1:07 am
I have to say that I feel really bad for players like Louis Murphy and Zach Miller because it is more than obvious those two guys are great athletes and are working as hard as anyone in the league to win. It’s such a damm shame they have to be on such a bad team and even worse franchise.
October 6th, 2009 at 1:12 am
alisgod Says:
October 5th, 2009 at 11:33 pm
Oak,
Be patient bro. Everyone thought they’d be happy with 7-9 or 8-8 and all the sudden now they sound as if we were supposed to be 10-6.
………..
LOL. You still think we have a shot at 7 or 8 wins? Care to make a prediction?
October 6th, 2009 at 1:22 am
alisgod Says:
October 5th, 2009 at 11:33 pm
“next year they will address the Oline because that is the only unit left that has yet to be addressed.”
……………
ROLMFAO!!!!!!!
I’m laughing so hard right now I’m going to vomit.
HAAAAAAAAA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 6th, 2009 at 1:22 am
if we get 4 wins on the year i will run a mile through downtown Sac naked… i’m confident that will NOT happen
October 6th, 2009 at 2:12 am
Raiders Check List:
1) Lame duck coach waiting to get thrown in the slammer and be fired for cause.
2) Fat QB who misses meetings and is partying instead of LEADING the team.
3) Best WR injured.
4) 2 Rookie WR’s who can’t hold onto the ball.
5) Staring RB fragile and now injured.
6) Best offensive player (Zach Miller) with a concussion.
7) Best O lineman out with injury.
9)All in all, 4 starters on offense who are out. And they sucked already.
10) Defense getting pissed and about to give up.
October 6th, 2009 at 2:21 am
11) JLH injured and not healed.
12) Walker a non-factor and can’t beat out rookies who drop the ball.
13) Fargas throwing the lame duck coach under the bus.
14) Al banning Gannon, starting more drama and distractions.
October 6th, 2009 at 2:26 am
OAKGLEN
Good post #62!
No it’s not the coaches, we’ve have 5 in a row with exactly the same issues on the field.
You claim it’s the players, but many of the players are also new.
Maybe it’s the schemes, and the the fact that we have no continuity in our drafting and acquistitions?
If you have a new coach who tries to build something and gets a little influence and tweaks the roster a bit to match his schemes and then the OWNER says no to change and then fires him, it is impossible to build a WHOLE team that is complete and can play as a unit with all areas covered.
Constant rebuilding project that never gets done because there is no real direction and no accountability to the coach.
Al Davis is the problem.
October 6th, 2009 at 4:01 am
does all the kool-aid drinkers still think we can win the division? does the kool-aid drinkers still think i was off the mark when i HOPED we could SIX games???
Is Al Davis still God??
just asking…
October 6th, 2009 at 4:06 am
Hi everybody. I’m so sad The Raiders are getting their butts kicked. I remember the golden days of Stabler, Biletnikoff et al. Anyway, can anyone assure me that The Raiders won’t lose to NY by more than 16?
October 6th, 2009 at 4:09 am
they WILL lose with more than 16…
October 6th, 2009 at 4:45 am
The “smart money” would be on the Giants by 17 points or over.
But sometimes teams come out and fight when they have their backs against the wall. Teams with great players that are underperforming.
So let’s just say, Giants by 24 LOL
October 6th, 2009 at 5:56 am
Whats up LMN? You know, based on the first game, yeah, we could have taken the West. They played like it was the SuperBowl, and then are now in an offseason. I can’t explain it…
October 6th, 2009 at 6:00 am
Good Morning NATION!!!
October 6th, 2009 at 6:03 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S.THAT IS THE KIND OF POINT-SPREAD THAT BITE’S U IN THE AZZ LATE.FAVORITE WILL LEAD BY 20-21 PTS.WITH MINUTE OR SO LEFT, LET OTHER TEAM WALK DOWN THE FIELD TO USE UP THE CLOCK, “PREVENT”THERE GOES YOUR SPREAD….
October 6th, 2009 at 6:03 am
As Pat Benatar said…
We Are Young
This may take awhile and all we got is time
Dont want 2 watch “other” teams like some do
2 me their is ONLY da Raiders
WIN LOSE OR TIE…SILVER AND BLACK EVEN AFTER I DIE
October 6th, 2009 at 6:05 am
Wha
October 6th, 2009 at 6:06 am
To paraphrase Triumph the Comic INsult dog “The raiders look like a nice team…. for me to POOP ON!!”
we absolutely suck
October 6th, 2009 at 6:07 am
2 me their is ONLY da Raiders
WIN LOSE OR TIE…SILVER AND BLACK EVEN AFTER I DIE
Those are the right words right there.
October 6th, 2009 at 6:08 am
When did DMC get hurt? Must have been during the game, huh? Fargas gets the carry….oooh, stuffed for a safety…darn, here we go again!
October 6th, 2009 at 6:12 am
OFCOURSE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE RAIDER OFFENSE HERE…EVEN A PREVENT DEFENSE MAY BE TO TOUGH..
October 6th, 2009 at 6:12 am
Gotta find a way to shake off this creepy malaise
October 6th, 2009 at 6:20 am
if we dont stand our own ground,how can we find our way out of this maze???
October 6th, 2009 at 6:20 am
WIN A GAME 4EVA , 1 GAME.THIS GROUP HAS NO CLUE HOW TO DO ANYTHING BUT LOOSE.BEAT A DESCENT TEAM.AND TRY TO BUILD ON THAT WINNING IS CONTAGIS, SO IS LOOSING.
October 6th, 2009 at 6:21 am
those words are from…
Pink Floyd…Dogs
October 6th, 2009 at 6:27 am
JaMarcus: “HwnRdr, i’ll have some pudding and some meat thanks”
October 6th, 2009 at 6:27 am
Speaking of Pink Floyd 4eva…
“…you can’t have any pudding! How can you have any pudding if you don’t eat your meat?”
Anyone on the team ready for “pudding”?
October 6th, 2009 at 6:30 am
# 4evaRaider Says:
October 6th, 2009 at 6:31 am
Thankx Hwnrdr…
I laugh at the Raider fans who say they are fans but wanna jump ship when we doing bad.We see who the bandwagon jumpers are and its duly noted.
I’m glad most of the A.M. crew are TRUE FANS!!!
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a kool-aid fan isnt a true fan.. a true fan demands its team to win, and demand the team to turn every stone to win, the raiders dont do that… I hate the kool-aid drinkers just as much as i hate denver, SD and KC…
October 6th, 2009 at 6:30 am
WE ARE ALL LOST SOUL’S LIVING IN A FISH BOWL…
October 6th, 2009 at 6:31 am
Thankx Hwnrdr…
I laugh at the Raider fans who say they are fans but wanna jump ship when we doing bad.We see who the bandwagon jumpers are and its duly noted.
I’m glad most of the A.M. crew are TRUE FANS!!!
October 6th, 2009 at 6:32 am
we dont deserve any pudding yet,imo Hwnrdr =)
October 6th, 2009 at 6:33 am
Yeah the jumping ship bs is for bandwagon fans. How many carries do bush and fargas have in them because regardless of the score I see run 1,2,3 down and Lechler bombs or Jruss is gonna get sacked in the double digits .
October 6th, 2009 at 6:34 am
Gawd Dirt-Lot…
I’d give trade almost anything I own 4A win next sunday vs. G-MEN
October 6th, 2009 at 6:35 am
thats a good one LMN!!! =)
October 6th, 2009 at 6:35 am
hell Jmac prolly want bread pudding with his pudding =)
October 6th, 2009 at 6:36 am
well, i’ll pop in again in a few days, as long as JERRY McDonalds hamsters cant figure out NTP, its futile to post anything here…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_Time_Protocol
see ya, take care…
October 6th, 2009 at 6:39 am
La Milicia Negra Says:
October 6th, 2009 at 6:27 am
JaMarcus: “HwnRdr, i’ll have some pudding and some meat thanks”
That’s a good one LMN…meat dipped in his pudding!!!
October 6th, 2009 at 6:40 am
Jacarcass is dead meat…
he simply does not care enough to win…
time to move on…
what a waste of talent…
October 6th, 2009 at 6:44 am
DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
October 6th, 2009 at 6:30 am
WE ARE ALL LOST SOUL’S LIVING IN A FISH BOWL…
Hahaha!!! No wonder I can’t breathe!!!
Nah, I do get your point!
October 6th, 2009 at 6:47 am
I have to laugh when I read the comparisons some people on here are making between JR and guys like Aaron Rodgers and Brett Favre. You guys do realize that this is Russell’s second year as a starter, right? That he has an entirely new passing game (again), and is working with two rookie receivers and a pathetic excuse for an offensive line?
Trent Green went off on Russell recently. and compared his game to Drew Brees’. Honest to God. Feel free to look up Brees’ stats from his first two years as a starter in the NFL, and to maybe, just MAYBE, factor in he small detail that he is in his fifth year with the Saints, under the same head coach and with the same offense.
Give JR the same situation, and receivers like Donald Driver, Bernard Berrian, Greg Jennings or Marques Colston and then make some comparisons. Otherwise, try and remember that guys like Flacco and Ryan are extremely rare and that young QBs struggle more often than not early in their NFL careers. Eli Manning is a perfect example, and he had a whole lot more to work with when he started than JR ever has. I’m not absolving him completely because there are some areas that he can control that could be improved, but let’s at least try and be realistic here.
October 6th, 2009 at 6:50 am
I’ll give you that Ed…As fans we want to WIN NOW!!! and there is no time for rebuilding. Russell has looked better against Houston and the announcers did say that if the ball reaches your hands, you must make the catch no matter how the ball was thrown. yes, JaMarcus is struggling, but his wr’s need to help him out, also. Where is Walker? I mean, he could be no worse, right?
October 6th, 2009 at 7:03 am
Hwnrdr… I understand wanting to win now, but I also understand that if your team isn’t built to win now then it’s an exercise in frustration. I think sometimes folks forget that this team is rebuilding, and that there are going to be growing pains. Virtually everyone on this blog agrees that it takes a WR two to three years in the league to “get it”. Some guys get it sooner, some get it later, but if it takes a receiver that long and he only has to learn a fraction of what a QB does, then why are we so impatient with Russell? Last Sunday was his FOURTH GAME with the new passing offense, and had he had a even a LITTLE support from his line and his receivers the tone of this blog would be completely different this week.
As far as Walker goes, I personally think that he should be playing. I understand the whole wanting to develop the young guys thing, but I think his presence on the field would really help both JR and the young receivers.
October 6th, 2009 at 7:06 am
thankx LMN jerry can use it !!!
October 6th, 2009 at 7:09 am
I know, what’s up with the time thing?
Seriously, what does the Raiders have to do to pull off an upset in New Jersey? I said seriously now…on any given Sunday…
October 6th, 2009 at 7:13 am
Where is Walker? The true answer is that AD has totally commited the WR position to youth and the only way Walker plays is if there is a series of serious injuries to more than 1 WR. Otherwise he sits. His skills are not in question, just AD’s committment to youth.
October 6th, 2009 at 7:20 am
YEAR AFTER YEAR =)
October 6th, 2009 at 7:24 am
Edward Teach… Hwndr… anybody else that gives a rip…
i have compared Russell to Elway (early in his career)… and so i do believe this kid can be great…
but haven’t we all heard that genius is 95% perspiration and 5% inspiration???
if Russell is late to meetings, or worse, missing meetings… then in my mind it is over for him… talent does not matter when compared to commitment…
in many ways Russell is a management employee… he is expected to set the example… exhibit leadership… rally the troops…
instead… the example he is setting is that there is no penalty for poor judgement…
and here’s what makes it even worse…
i do not believe for one moment that Cable or any other coach in any sport… at any level… would tolerate that kind of behavior from anyone unless they were forced to do so…
Davis needs to publicly name Cable the Head Coach… and then remove the shackles…
because only by benching a couple of high profile players is Cable going to get anyone’s attention…
October 6th, 2009 at 7:25 am
Exla… and you can see why he’s doing that. He wants chemistry between those guys as soon as possible because he thinks he’s got the guys he wants and he can see them there for a number of years, just getting better and better with each other. Worked pretty well for the Colts.
It’s just painful to watch, and one can’t help thinking that, while it’s all well and good to try and accomplish that chemistry, a first down now and then woudn’t hurt, either. Not to mention a touchdown pass once in awhile…
October 6th, 2009 at 7:27 am
BA BA BA BA BINGO BINGO BINGO BINGO BINGO BINGO BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well said
Teach and Exla
And it’s goingo 2 PAY-OFF in da long-run
The next draft I would think it’s all about the O-line
October 6th, 2009 at 7:28 am
Teach good comment.
We’ll have to live with the pain for now.
These guys are clowns right now, but ditching them and starting over is not any better than the strategy we’ve used the last 6 years.
Stick with the plan for better or worse and try to build.
October 6th, 2009 at 7:34 am
Morning.
I had a dream last night that I was Kobe Bryant. There was a playoff game and Phil sat me until the second quarter and I went in when we were down by 10. Unfortunately, I may have looked like Kobe Bryant, but I played like Dakota….
….what a nightmare lol. I tried to dunk, and I jammed it on the rim and almost fell down!
At least I am over my Raider nightmares. Remember the one I had before the season where we were winning the opening game against SD until a last second drive won the game for them? That pretty much happened, so I hope Kobe doesn’t start playing like me this year!
October 6th, 2009 at 7:40 am
Florida Pete… totally agree with you. There is no sustitute for hard work, no matter how talented a person is. I understand from reading your posts that you’re a business owner, so I’m sure you’ve seen your share of “naturals” outperformed by guys that just worked harder.
I don’t really know what to think about Esiason’s comments. Are these recent developments or are they incidents from the past that are brought up to make the story more of a story? The head coach (and Russell’s teammates) say over and over that he’s putting in the work, but that his main challenge at the moment is to become more of a leader, which Russell himself has acknowleged. The only people that know what the real story is aren’t saying much. He does seem to have the (public) support of his coach and his teammates, though, and as I mentioned before if he got any support at all last Sunday in Houston we might all be singing a different tune today. I would just say this; the vast majority of young QBs take time to understand tha NFL game, even under ideal circumstances. I think we’d all agree that JaMarcus’ circumstances have not been ideal. Personally, I come down on the side of giving the kid a chance. He did not step into a situation ready-made for success.
October 6th, 2009 at 7:40 am
Good stuff last night…the delusional Al Davis ball sucker bunch were going after each other.
I guess even they can pretend thing are going to end well this season.
But just wait until we win a game against the Browns and maybe KC later this year…Suddenly Cable will be the next Madden again, Russell will be a biblical figure, Al will rule, the offense will be on the cusp of being unstoppable blah blah blah
And those of us with a brain will continue to look for real signs of improvement…like a real HC, drafting o-line, d-line and LBs, the exit of the owner…
October 6th, 2009 at 7:45 am
revised:
I guess even they can’t pretend things are going to end well this season.
derrrrr
October 6th, 2009 at 7:46 am
Hey Ed, you’re right. Patience is a virtue that only a few here understand. We have to patient, but unfortunately, its not that way.
October 6th, 2009 at 7:49 am
Breaking News:
Tom Cable is not qualified to coach an NFL franchise.
More on this story at ten!
October 6th, 2009 at 7:52 am
Dakota Says:
October 6th, 2009 at 7:40 am
the delusional Al Davis ball sucker bunch were going after each other.
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LMFAO!
The DADBSB …. that was a good one!
October 6th, 2009 at 7:54 am
Cable…when you are in prison and someone asks you if you want to use his Fifi…say no thank you.
October 6th, 2009 at 7:57 am
Hwnrdr
DMac was injured early in the game when a DB came up BLASTED him on the knee on a running play to the outside. Pretty much flipped him head over heels with the hit. He was slow to get up and hobbled a bit, but he was clearly impacted by that hit, and didn’t really play much after that.
That’s my guess.
October 6th, 2009 at 7:57 am
Cable, if someone with the Bootie Flu tries to Turn You Out in prison…just run.
October 6th, 2009 at 7:59 am
Chris, Priest and other true believers = Charlie Brown trying to kick the football. Uncle Al = Lucy. Keep trying, though, boys!
As for your superbly facile “theory,” Oakglenn, back to the drawing for you I’m afraid!
October 6th, 2009 at 8:03 am
Ed Tech,
I am with you man. I am not impressed with Russels play but give me one player on that team outside of Nnamdi who never really gets challenged that is playing well? They stink and they know it! This is a young group of guys with no senior talent or coaching that is set up to groom talent.
I said yesterday in the blog that Al and the Raiders are use to buying talent already developed on other teams. Nnamdi -stunk up the place until he was groomed by Rod Woodson but Rod was brought in as a veteran who learned his game in Pitts. The days of bringing in lets just see rookies and over paying vets are over. MOst teams draft to fit needs and they groom them in to one specific roll and let them expand. We kind of just throw our rookies in the ocean and tell them learn to swim on the job, we know you had a couple of lessons at the YMCA.
I hate this team now. They stink up the place on Sunday so bad that I can’t even watch. Even the Lions and the Browns are more entertaining and that is some sad football.
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edward teach Says:
October 6th, 2009 at 7:40 am
Florida Pete… totally agree with you. There is no sustitute for hard work, no matter how talented a person is. I understand from reading your posts that you’re a business owner, so I’m sure you’ve seen your share of “naturals” outperformed by guys that just worked harder.
I don’t really know what to think about Esiason’s comments. Are these recent developments or are they incidents from the past that are brought up to make the story more of a story? The head coach (and Russell’s teammates) say over and over that he’s putting in the work, but that his main challenge at the moment is to become more of a leader, which Russell himself has acknowleged. The only people that know what the real story is aren’t saying much. He does seem to have the (public) support of his coach and his teammates, though, and as I mentioned before if he got any support at all last Sunday in Houston we might all be singing a different tune today. I would just say this; the vast majority of young QBs take time to understand tha NFL game, even under ideal circumstances. I think we’d all agree that JaMarcus’ circumstances have not been ideal. Personally, I come down on the side of giving the kid a chance. He did not step into a situation ready-made for success.
October 6th, 2009 at 8:05 am
That is because our dumb @$$ line was not blocking one bit. Blame McFumbles all you want but there is enough blame to go around.
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jhill Says:
October 6th, 2009 at 7:57 am
Hwnrdr
DMac was injured early in the game when a DB came up BLASTED him on the knee on a running play to the outside. Pretty much flipped him head over heels with the hit. He was slow to get up and hobbled a bit, but he was clearly impacted by that hit, and didn’t really play much after that.
That’s my guess.
October 6th, 2009 at 8:08 am
Prison for a broken jaw? Gimme a break he will get fined and probation if anything, prison…what a joke
October 6th, 2009 at 8:09 am
http://www.feloniousramblings.com/2008/10/prison-slang-101.html
Here Cable, read up on some prison slang…might save you some trouble down the road.
I think you are a crap HC, but I still feel bad for you man!
October 6th, 2009 at 8:17 am
If its true that Jamarcus Russell missed team meetings and or was even late,something should have been done about it.If Cable can’t talk about it then or do anything about it what does that tell us.Its Al Davis and everybody is scared.I would rather be unemployed than to work under Al Davis and his no win situations.
October 6th, 2009 at 8:20 am
I was glad we kept Cable in the off-season because it looked like we were starting to turn the corner. Russell played good down the stretch. Continuity? We then scrapped the play book and put in a whole new passing game so we might as well hired a new coach. Russell was coming along in the other system then we f it up buy putting in all this vertical crap. We were no juggernaut but at lest we were respectable. Why keep a coach because we were turning the corner then change our style
October 6th, 2009 at 8:20 am
After Cable is gone,who is going to be the next sucker.
October 6th, 2009 at 8:22 am
REPOST:
QUESTION FOR ENTIRE RAIDER NATION:
If any of the ‘popular’ speculation about JaMarcus is true (i.e. doesn’t work hard, doesn’t care, etc., etc.), wouldn’t you think that other players who DO care (i.e. Fargas, Namdi, Ellis, Seymour, Gallery, etc., etc.) would rip him a new one???
I mean, after all, these are football players we’re talking about, right? These guys are supposed to have balls, right? Robert Gallery weighs about 50-60 lbs. more than J-Russ, right?
Why would ANY of these players be afraid to get in his grill and rip into him like he’s never seen?
Whether or not Al Davis decides who plays isn’t even the point. What IS the point is that I have a real problem with nobody getting into this kid’s face and straightening him out. Yeah, he’s got money, but, I’m sure Seymour or Gallery threatening to beat his ass would have SOME kind of impression, don’t you think????
Listen, I’m a Raider fan. I’ll be a Raider fan until the day I die. And I will root for every Raider that puts on that uniform and never will I boo one of ours at the games.
And I choose to be stand by J-Russ until I see how he progresses (or not) the rest of this season.
But I really do with we had someone with balls enough to lead these young guys, even if it’s good ol’ fashioned verbal abuse for all the team to hear.
October 6th, 2009 at 8:23 am
Hellsbells on post #184,Al Davis changed our style because we were winning.Al doesn’t want to win no matter what he says.Look at the moves he’s made.He gave up our first pick in the 2011 draft for a player who doesn’t want to be here and hes on the first plane out of here once the season is officially over.
October 6th, 2009 at 8:24 am
bank-bank Says:
October 6th, 2009 at 8:20 am
After Cable is gone,who is going to be the next sucker.
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Tom Flores.
The greatness of the Raiders is in their fuhtchah!
October 6th, 2009 at 8:30 am
I am so DONE. After 29 years of being a fan, for the first time I will not watch anymore of this season. My life does not deserve the pain and suffering.
October 6th, 2009 at 8:33 am
Tired of hearing the linemen arent getting low enough, the QB is soooo close, dropped too many passes, barely missed tackles, one person was out of place, we are just missing the execution on a few key big plays. It is all BS, all spin, and they know it. They have no integrity. Everyone involved should resign. If we stop supporting, they will do what they need to do to bring people back. So, lets stop. I am.
October 6th, 2009 at 8:35 am
Gee thats real nice of you Dakota LOL
October 6th, 2009 at 8:38 am
All:
Quit your biotching. If you can’t handle the way this team is run, then go away and do something that makes you happy.
Am I happy right now? NO. But, come Sunday, I can’t wait to see Raider ball. Period. And that’s the way it will always be.
If you can’t stand this team from top to bottom, then leave.
It’s really quite simple.
October 6th, 2009 at 8:42 am
Great Raider Fans of America this up coming 2010 draft must be great for us.We must score an A because if we dont then its over for our Raiders for many decades to come.Its sad but true.
October 6th, 2009 at 8:48 am
Silver-n-Smac @ post#192,I see what you are saying but come on man Everybody can’t be like you when it comes to our Raiders.
October 6th, 2009 at 8:51 am
I urge all Raider fans to boycott games & merchandise until Al either hires a top notch GM & head coach or dies. This is now the seventh consecutive year that he has put a garbage product on the field. We as fans should not support this in any way at all. Al Davis does not care about the fans or the organization. He only cares about his own ego. He is a combination of Jim Jones & Hitler who will use anyone & everyone to satisfy his world of fantasy. Everyone from Cable to JR to Seymour is just collecting a check now. Winning is not an option so they are just playing to get that check. BOYCOTT, BOYCOTT, BOYCOTT. His Al Davis where it hurts the most. Tell that maniac we will not stand for this crap.
October 6th, 2009 at 8:55 am
# bank-bank Says:
October 6th, 2009 at 8:48 am
Silver-n-Smac @ post#192,I see what you are saying but come on man Everybody can’t be like you when it comes to our Raiders.
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bank-bank:
Uh. . . . .What?
Hey man, I don’t have a problem with complaining about certain things. It’s therapeutic for all of us in a sense.
I get that.
But, some of you dudes who keep saying things like “I can’t take it anymore” or “let’s boycott this team”, etc., etc.
I have a simple solution for you: Don’t watch this team. Pick a new team and go with it.
Otherwise, what’s the alternative for you? Keep whining, year after year?
Look at a guy like Dakota.
He’s clearly got a really boring life. Otherwise, who spends countless hours thinking up of clever (in his mind) role-playing Cable-Davis-Police transcripts to
humor us with? The thing is, he’s humoring nobody.
Take the comics elsewhere. This team is one of the top-5 youngest in the league, and like it or not, they will improve in time. I know you’re sick of the losing, and so am I. But, try to understand that this young talent will improve.
October 6th, 2009 at 9:27 am
Silver I’m sorry, but you are part of the problem. There have been all kinds of different coaches & players through here the past seven years, but all with the same results. It’s not about whining or not having a life. It’s about deserving better than what Al Davis is doing. He clearly does not care about winning at all cost or else he would have never let Gruden & Bruce Allen go. He wants to win, but only his way, with his guys. He obviously didn’t like winning with Gruden and Gannon taking credit. Al Davis is a sick, stubborn, ego driven, nut who needs to be put down. He needs to be terminated with extreme prejudice. We keep seeing the Commitment to Excellence all over the place, but this is more like Commitment to Excraments.
October 6th, 2009 at 9:29 am
Two OT are rated in the top five for next years draft. Is it to early to make a wish list. Both are projected at RT so it might be a reach. We also need to get Barnes in at RT now, if he complains cut his ass. Put Green in at RG when he comes back, would be able to run to the right side. Maybe he could hear the snap count better also.
October 6th, 2009 at 9:31 am
Wind And cheese
October 6th, 2009 at 9:42 am
jappottamus – his stomach is bottomless…
i’m done with this fool and this team until either…
a) al davis retires
b) al davis hands over complete control of the team to j harbaugh, chuckie, or holmgren.
for you who see the glass as half full:
d. bowe; jappottamus’ teammate from lsu stated that pottamus needed to get it together before the chefs game…cause time was running out on his nfl career. who would know him better?
take a look at team photos and the demeanor of the pottamus. he stands by himself. he ignores tollner and hackett when they come to him to give him instruction. gradkowski and frye circle around him like flies on sherbet.
this kid is slow, dumb, and does not care. he is all about collecting a check from AD. he has great physical tools. i can’t understand a thing he says when he speaks. i doubt anyone else can either. even sportswriter translations leave me perplexed.
one positive from the draft is murphy. dude can ball!
i like his attitude.
bring on a new coach. bring on d mcnabb. bring on m. vick. anyone…change something!!!
October 6th, 2009 at 9:43 am
hellsbells Says:
October 6th, 2009 at 9:29 am
Two OT are rated in the top five for next years draft. Is it to early to make a wish list.
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Which one has sprinters speed?
October 6th, 2009 at 9:45 am
What i won’t “eventually understand” is:
Why did Al say he was going to hire a GM, and then failed to do so.
Why if Bush has a fumble, is he benched and Fargas gets all the work?
Why can DHB give up on routes, drop balls and continue to play?
This is Al at “WORK” and it doesn’t work.
Get out of this teams way Al, take Cable and your archaic game plans with you.
October 6th, 2009 at 9:47 am
And who’s to say that any successor to Al Davis will be any better. The Ram’s sure have done better since Georgia died! Careful what you wish for.
October 6th, 2009 at 9:48 am
Hellsbells it’s never too early for a wish list. My wish list only has one request. AL DAVIS PLEASE DIE!!
October 6th, 2009 at 9:54 am
Wishbone, I responded before your wish. Magic!
October 6th, 2009 at 10:00 am
Classy, wishing somebody dead over a game.
October 6th, 2009 at 10:02 am
Southwick Bumaye!
October 6th, 2009 at 10:04 am
Juan Marcos Rosel es una pinche nalga de mierda!
October 6th, 2009 at 10:11 am
Draft more Florida players! I agree with you Saladfingerz on Murphy! We need more players like him, lets just get Tebow next year.
October 6th, 2009 at 10:31 am
anybody blaming the o-line for Russell’s struggles should have watched Aaron Rodgers last night against the Vikings defense. 400 yards and 2 TD’s. completed over 70 percent of his passes. Sacked 8 times last night! knocked down & hurried many more…
Russell has only been sacked 8 times in 4 games and we know how elusive he is (haha)
Packers were held to just 66 yards rushing. Rodgers put the team on his back and gave them a chance to win. thats what leaders do. Packers defense got no sacks & no INT’s
Aaron Rodgers got no help last night and played an excellent game. Raider fans still making excuses for Russell after 20 atrocious starts need to wake up or shut up
the fans deserve better, as well as the coaches, owner and his teammates. Russell is a bust.
October 6th, 2009 at 10:37 am
– CBS analyst Boomer Esiasion had this to say about Russell Sunday on the NFL Today:
“I don’t want to beat a dead horse here, but it’s come to my attention that he has been fined heavily already for being overweight and for being late to meetings. And, he’s already missed one meeting. I’m telling you right now, the other 52 guys on that roster are looking at Tom Cable. They’re looking at Al Davis, and they’re saying we deserve better than this. That’s why every time he goes on the field, what’s the quarterback’s job – to be the leader of the other men on the field with them; to inspire them to greater heights. Right now, he is holding them back. Even though there’s not a great alternative, there has to be a change at quarterback, especially if he plays poorly today against a banged up Houston defense.”
Asked whether Russell had been fined and missed meetings, Cable said, “I’m not going to talk about our internal stuff that way.”
– It does appear that the Raiders are still in search of an offensive leader, as evidenced by defensive end Greg Ellis having words with offensive team members during the Texans game. Cable said he approves.
“The reason I’m OK with it is that until the offense finds their leaders, who those guys are going to be, I think you’re leadership’s gotta come from anywhere on this football team,” Cable said.
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Boomer Esiasion is right on the money. Cable knows it. Didn’t say Russell was a leader on offense, said we’re still looking for one (ie. WE DON’T HAVE ONE!).
If what Boomer said was false about Russell being fined for being overweight, late to meetings & missing meetings why wouldn’t Cable come out and say so? Why not protect his quarterback?
Tom Cable is only starting Russell because Al Davis is telling him to. Cable doesn’t beleive in him. He knows Russ is a bust. He knows he can’t win with him, but he figures that as long as he does what Al wants, he’ll have a job. somebody needs to tell Tom Cable that he’s fixing to be Al’s new exiled scapecoach
October 6th, 2009 at 10:38 am
Good Day nation!!!
Double R long time no chat hows life???
Man The Raiders are really ugly…..I think I was banned for a day or so for my drunken tirade on sunday…
October 6th, 2009 at 10:41 am
Juan Marcos Rosel es una pinche nalga de mierda!
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Does that mean fat POS?????
October 6th, 2009 at 10:42 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 6th, 2009 at 10:37 am
Boomer Esiasion is right on the money. Cable knows it. Didn’t say Russell was a leader on offense, said we’re still looking for one (ie. WE DON’T HAVE ONE!).
a leader or an offense?
October 6th, 2009 at 10:43 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 6th, 2009 at 10:37 am
Boomer Esiasion is right on the money. Cable knows it. Didn’t say Russell was a leader on offense, said we’re still looking for one (ie. WE DON’T HAVE ONE!).
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a leader or an offense?
October 6th, 2009 at 10:44 am
“It seems like they’re challenging us a little bit to throw the ball,” Fargas said.
The ability to complete a higher percentage of passes would make a world of difference, Fargas said.
“Oh, it changes everything.”
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even Justin Fargas knows Russell is a POS. LOL
wonder what Nnamdi thinks?
October 6th, 2009 at 10:44 am
BSJ…
….like a RB who run from sideline to sideline…
October 6th, 2009 at 10:45 am
JERRRRRRRY YOUR PIECE OF SHYTY PAGE IS PATHETIC, GET IT FIXED…. DO it, DO it….
October 6th, 2009 at 10:48 am
I love when people say their young and will get better , news flash not all young player get better and if you notice Jruss,Dmac are getting worse not better.
October 6th, 2009 at 10:48 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 6th, 2009 at 10:44 am
“It seems like they’re challenging us a little bit to throw the ball,” Fargas said.
The ability to complete a higher percentage of passes would make a world of difference, Fargas said.
“Oh, it changes everything.”
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even Justin Fargas knows Russell is a POS. LOL
wonder what Nnamdi thinks?
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The reporter should have replied, “Yeah, a QB who can’t connect is like a running back who can’t find the end zone…”
October 6th, 2009 at 10:50 am
The reporter should have replied, “Yeah, a QB who can’t connect is like a running back who can’t find the end zone…”
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Classic BSJ wow he even looks bad in his own endzone
October 6th, 2009 at 10:51 am
OAKlifer!
Raider Nation is in major need of a Kool-Aid splash…
any chance we are competitive against the Giants this week? By “competitive” I mean lose by 14 points or less.
life is good man. been taking on a bigger workload due to the pay raise – hows things your way?
October 6th, 2009 at 10:53 am
good man enjoying the slow life out of the office that is alot more fishing beer drinking alot less computer mioss the AM crew tho….The only splash I have is David Carr might start but even then the Gaints are lightyears ahead of us….wait that measures time not distance….uhhh either way..I say our only chance is to hope we get one of Phillies Quaterbacks next off season hell they have 6 that are better than out 3
October 6th, 2009 at 10:55 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
October 6th, 2009 at 10:31 am
anybody blaming the o-line for Russell’s struggles should have watched Aaron Rodgers last night against the Vikings defense. 400 yards and 2 TD’s. completed over 70 percent of his passes. Sacked 8 times last night! knocked down & hurried many more…
Russell has only been sacked 8 times in 4 games and we know how elusive he is (haha)
Packers were held to just 66 yards rushing. Rodgers put the team on his back and gave them a chance to win. thats what leaders do. Packers defense got no sacks & no INT’s
Aaron Rodgers got no help last night and played an excellent game. Raider fans still making excuses for Russell after 20 atrocious starts need to wake up or shut up
the fans deserve better, as well as the coaches, owner and his teammates. Russell is a bust.
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EXACTLY!!! Folks need to stop with all the coddling already.
October 6th, 2009 at 10:56 am
I’m still going to wait for the train at the end of the tunnel. Thank you sir may I have another.
October 6th, 2009 at 10:56 am
The only splash I have is David Carr might start but even then the Gaints are lightyears ahead of us
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couldn’t agree more. sort of funny though
Carr vs. Russell = battle of the busts!
I think David Carr will win 10 times out of 10. At least he puts the work in …
October 6th, 2009 at 10:58 am
Silver-n-Smac Says:
October 6th, 2009 at 8:55 am
bank-bank:
Uh. . . . .What?
Hey man, I don’t have a problem with complaining about certain things. It’s therapeutic for all of us in a sense.
I get that.
But, some of you dudes who keep saying things like “I can’t take it anymore” or “let’s boycott this team”, etc., etc.
I have a simple solution for you: Don’t watch this team. Pick a new team and go with it.
Otherwise, what’s the alternative for you? Keep whining, year after year?
Look at a guy like Dakota.
He’s clearly got a really boring life. Otherwise, who spends countless hours thinking up of clever (in his mind) role-playing Cable-Davis-Police transcripts to
humor us with? The thing is, he’s humoring nobody.
Take the comics elsewhere. This team is one of the top-5 youngest in the league, and like it or not, they will improve in time. I know you’re sick of the losing, and so am I. But, try to understand that this young talent will improve.
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LMAO!
October 6th, 2009 at 10:59 am
bwahahahah….cant believe im going to say this, but maaaan if we just had kyle orton, lol….
October 6th, 2009 at 11:03 am
cant believe im going to say this, but maaaan if we just had kyle orton, lol….
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yeah. watching Russell play makes me miss Aaron Brooks!
October 6th, 2009 at 11:04 am
My cuz Kurt Warner just texted me…
..he says, “Keep the faith, God is just testing the Raider Nation and Al Davis.”
October 6th, 2009 at 11:04 am
back to work. catch you fellers tomorrow!
October 6th, 2009 at 11:05 am
Look at a guy like Dakota.
He’s clearly got a really boring life.
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Boring is underrated.
October 6th, 2009 at 11:07 am
220 Bo–
even Justin Fargas knows Russell is a POS. LOL
wonder what Nnamdi thinks?
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The reporter should have replied, “Yeah, a QB who can’t connect is like a running back who can’t find the end zone…”
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Cmon now… Fargas found the endzone this week—- and it cost 9 points
October 6th, 2009 at 11:09 am
I don’t have a boring life…I just watched Zombieland!
lol
October 6th, 2009 at 11:11 am
Dakota Says:
October 6th, 2009 at 7:34 am
“I had a dream last night that I was Kobe Bryant.”
…….
Did you stop when she screamed “no”?
October 6th, 2009 at 11:13 am
Jamarcus got some tats on his hands recently that say “No Struggle, No progress”. Seriously.
Well at least he knows he is struggling, lol
October 6th, 2009 at 11:13 am
Oh, and I am going to the Patriots-Broncos game this Sunday!
Yeah, thit will be kind of boring…watching teams get first downs and play NFL quality ball…
Very boring.
People are goiong to be looking at me funny when I boo every play.
October 6th, 2009 at 11:20 am
Dakota Says:
October 6th, 2009 at 11:13 am
Oh, and I am going to the Patriots-Broncos game this Sunday!
Yeah, thit will be kind of boring…watching teams get first downs and play NFL quality ball…
Very boring.
People are goiong to be looking at me funny when I boo every play.
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Not EVERY play. Cheer the injuries and blatantly bad calls.
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October 6th, 2009 at 11:23 am
Good point Bo! Hopefully I’ll have plenty to cheer about.
Actually, I think I am going to pull for the Patriots…my hate for the Broncos is unmatched.
October 6th, 2009 at 11:31 am
VanHeathen Says:
October 6th, 2009 at 9:45 am
“Why did Al say he was going to hire a GM, and then failed to do so.”
…….
That’s what pathological liars do. They don’t necessarily lie their way out of responsibility. They instead lie their way out of doing anything about it. Al admits it’s his fault. Funny, his loyalists don’t, which makes them look pretty stupid considering their lizard king already copped to what his critics blame him for. But what Al will never admit is that he has no intention of doing what has to be done to fix the problem. And instead of just coming right out and saying that we’re going to do it his way, he’s telling people that he is going to hire a GM, and do things the modern way, even though he knows good and well he’d never do any such thing. Basically, Al is treating his season ticket holders like a junkie treats enabling parents. He tells them he’s going to go to rehab. He’s going to get help. But he just needs a few bucks right now to get things together.
October 6th, 2009 at 11:32 am
As a Life Long Raider fan, I never thought I’d say this: The Raiders have better players than the 49ers, but the Niners are a much better team. I don’t see any light at the end of this tunnel. The AD 1960’s playbook does not and will not ever work. Things will get MUCH worse before they ever get better, if they ever get better at all. This is just SAD. I’m too tired to even get mad about it anymore. REALITY has set in for me now. Poor Tom Cable, We’ll never know if he’s a good coach. All the players know that he has NO authority, and even the handfull of players who do care, and there are a few, can’t make the rest of the “Check Cashers” give a crap anyways. I doubt that I’ll be able to look away and ignore the Raiders, but I just can’t find the energy to care all that much anymore either. Why does anyone think anything is going to change?
October 6th, 2009 at 11:32 am
VegasRaider, has it ever occurred to you that Russell does not care one iota about being an NFL football player, and that this is all a hustle to him? And that his tattoos about struggling and progress are about being poor and getting money, and not about succeeding as an NFL football player? He never expected to be in the NFL. An insane owner who thought his arm would make him a good NFL quarterback drafts him with the number one overall pick. He never expected it. This is all one big come-up. And from that perspective, he is a success. Who cares what a bunch of Raider fans think? Vegas, you’re supposed to be an odds maker and a realist. Your views on Russell are kind of delusional, are they not? That his tattoos have to do with NFL success?
October 6th, 2009 at 11:33 am
From PFT:
Russell situation is worse than described
Posted by Mike Florio on October 6, 2009 12:51 PM ET
Boomer Esiason of CBS recently lifted the lid on the problems with Raiders quarterback JaMarcus Russell. Esiason said on Sunday’s The NFL Today that Russell has been “fined heavily” for showing up late for multiple meetings, being overweight, and missing one meeting.
A league source tells us that it’s even worse.
Per the source, Russell has missed multiple meetings, and that he has missed multiple other activities. His behavior has been described to us as a “pattern not an aberration.”
October 6th, 2009 at 11:38 am
MR,
Really how much has this guy “struggled”? He went to the best college in his state, and everyone probably bent over backwards for him in HS and college. By the time he was 22 years old, he was a multi-millionaire.
Spare me on his life struggles.
But I will begrudingly admit you are probably right that this is all one giant come-up for him. You would think if he loves the money so much, he would get his act together to get another contract. At his current state, his next contract will be a league minimum, incentive-laced deal with no guarantees.
October 6th, 2009 at 11:40 am
Guys, guess what? RUSSELL DOES NOT CARE. He already got paid. And Al will never cut him because as soon as he does, it proves Kiffin right. Al has said publicly that Kiffin didn’t want Russell. Russell hired one smart ass agent who’s just riding the wave of Al’s ego. He knows that Al won’t cut Russell because he’s trying to show Kiffin up. That’s an agent’s job. If the writers of the old HBO show “Arliss” could figure it out, I’m sure most modern agents have. Agents look at every angle. They’re taking Al to the cleaners because they know that in Al’s mind, proving Kiffin wrong is more important than money.
October 6th, 2009 at 11:41 am
“He is a great player, get over it”
-Al Davis
October 6th, 2009 at 11:44 am
VegasRaider, I’m not familiar with Russell’s biography. I was just bringing up a point of view different from what I thought yours was, that Russell didn’t deserve those tattoos because he hadn’t succeeded as an NFL quarterback, whatever. If what you meant was that his tattoos don’t apply to his personal life, either, then I have no response. I don’t know him or his biography. Maybe he did grow up in some nice suburb and had it made all along.
October 6th, 2009 at 11:44 am
Boomer is the new Mortensen? Wonder who the leak is…
October 6th, 2009 at 11:45 am
Don’t know about us having better player than the Niners who on are D Nhamdi included is even close to Willis guy is a monster he alone would save our overrated lb core.
October 6th, 2009 at 11:46 am
Wine and cheese
October 6th, 2009 at 11:47 am
My point was kind of that Russell is not doing anything about his “Struggles” as an NFL player, except inking them on his hands.
If the guy is talking about his life, than it is an even bigger joke.
October 6th, 2009 at 11:48 am
You guys crack me up trying to psycho analyze Russel and coming up with all this BS. If Boomer does not want to share his source how can I trust his information?
A number of people on this blog keep talking about Russel like we were a playoff team before he got here. Russel is just part of the puzzle. Management and coaching is a big part of the problem witht this football team.
FOR THE LAST TIME THE RAIDERS CAN NOT DEVELOP PROS ON THEIR TEAM. THEY HAVE TO BUY THEM ON THE FREE AGENT MARKET.
October 6th, 2009 at 11:49 am
I knew you were going to say that MR. Very predictable you can be.
October 6th, 2009 at 11:51 am
CJ,
Guys have to WANT to develop. Nmamdi developed pretty well. Fargas has certainly exceeded most expectations, as well as Mario Henderson.
Russell just doesn’t give a shyt, and more and more reports keep coming out to furthur enhace that belief. He still has time, but desire is not usually something that develops in your mid to late 20’s. You either are a self-starter or you are not.
October 6th, 2009 at 11:54 am
Vegas Raider wrote:
“At his current state, his next contract will be a league minimum, incentive-laced deal with no guarantees.”
…..
Not if Al Davis is still alive.
He’s already proven himself to be one of the worst QBs in football, and Al has no plans whatsoever to change the starting lineup. Al’s never going to give up on Russell because as soon as he does, he proves Kiffin right. Russell might be here for a decade, and well paid.
October 6th, 2009 at 11:56 am
The entire organization is flawed right now.
From the floor to the ceiling it’s a disaster.
Owner,coaches,assistants,players everything needs to be blown up and started again.
Al’s philosophy is extinct to everyone but him.
There IS NO greatness of the Raiders and there will never be again until AL is gone.
All of you out there with any allegiance to Davis are sad sad people and are the reason behind the jokes made about Raider fans,too blind to see the problem that beats us over the head every Sunday year after year.
The whole thing is a mess and it’s not getting any better.
The past is the past and there is no future for Oakland until wholesale changes take place.
October 6th, 2009 at 11:57 am
Vegas, and my point was that Russell probably doesn’t care about his status as an NFL player, at all. Again, it’s likely he grew up poor, and that his priority was just to come into some money. I think his tattoos have more to do with that. But you know more about him than I do. I only know what’s on his wikipedia page. I’m not a scout or anything like that. You could be right. He could be from some nice area, with well off parents.
October 6th, 2009 at 11:59 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 6th, 2009 at 11:57 am
Vegas, and my point was that Russell probably doesn’t care about his status as an NFL player, at all
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You are probably right, and that is very sad.
October 6th, 2009 at 12:00 pm
It has never been a worse time to be a Raider fan than right now.
October 6th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
Oh I forgot being a Raiders fan sucks! To all those fans who have Raider tats and season tickets I am sorry people. I am really, really sorry this team SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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CJ Legend 34 Says:
October 6th, 2009 at 11:48 am
You guys crack me up trying to psycho analyze Russel and coming up with all this BS. If Boomer does not want to share his source how can I trust his information?
A number of people on this blog keep talking about Russel like we were a playoff team before he got here. Russel is just part of the puzzle. Management and coaching is a big part of the problem witht this football team.
FOR THE LAST TIME THE RAIDERS CAN NOT DEVELOP PROS ON THEIR TEAM. THEY HAVE TO BUY THEM ON THE FREE AGENT MARKET.
October 6th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
I bet you if Russel goes to another team he will develop as a pro QB in their system. Do I have any takers?
Every player that leaves this team is better off and I hate saying it. Do you know how depressing it must be to be a Raider? When a kid coming out of college to the pros has more self control than the head coach and managment. I am not making up any excuses for Russel or his weight but I see how happy players are when they leave this team.
Bush will be a 1000 yard back when he leaves. Seymour is hitting the door at the end of the season and McFadden will go to a team like let me think. Hmmmmm, New England! Become part of ther system be used catching out of the backfield and become a good 2nd back catching out the backfield.
October 6th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
Hey, I didn’t mean to make you angry, Vegas. I was just bringing up a point of view on Russell to contrast yours, that’s all. You probably know more about him than I do. You study this stuff. I just glance at the headlines.
October 6th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
# vegas raider Says:
October 6th, 2009 at 11:59 am
“You are probably right, and that is very sad.”
………….
It is. Equally as sad is that so many sports fans are too delusional to wrap their brains around it. It just takes a small street degree. Most sports fans today live in a pretty sheltered world.
October 6th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
MR,
I wouldn’t say I study it, I just knew a guy real-well that has been rubbing elbows with him for the last couple of months. By all accounts he is a good dude, just too much too fast. Some can handle it, some can’t, and some just go with the flow. Unfortunately, Russell is going with the Raiders flow, which is unorganized and poorly ran, with zero discipline.
October 6th, 2009 at 12:09 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 6th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
Hey, I didn’t mean to make you angry, Vegas.
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Yeah, MR is all about warm fuzzies and brotherhood.
October 6th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
Bo, I speak my mind. If it makes some sensitive people angry, so be it. It’s not my intention. I just like to talk about the truth, that’s all.
October 6th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
alisgod Says:
October 5th, 2009 at 11:33 pm
Oak,
Be patient bro. Everyone thought they’d be happy with 7-9 or 8-8 and all the sudden now they sound as if we were supposed to be 10-6.
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I knew we were NOT going to make a run. We just weren’t. What I did expect tho, is for the team to get better and better and the players to get better and better. After the first game, there seemed to be something there to build on. The second game, we played poorly, yet WON. Certainly something there to build on. The last two games have been nothing but regression. Regression on offense, regression on defense, regression on special teams. This team is NOT good enough to regress on any level. You have to ask yourself, why is this team regressing after one week?? Normally, teams improve the most between games one and two. You can’t blame the coaches. This same thing has happened to every coach that has come here. Kiffin did not run the Al Davis offense and he was 3-13 in his last 16 games before he got run. Maybe we should start cutting players left and right and signing undrafted free agent college players. What could happen?? We get blown out?? We are already getting blown out! Dmac ran what 8 times for MINUS three yards?? Shoot, I CAN GO OUT THERE AND GET NEGATIVE YARDAGE!
October 6th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
vegas raider Says:
October 6th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
“By all accounts he is a good dude, just too much too fast. Some can handle it, some can’t, and some just go with the flow.”
………
Wow. I feel like I’m watching Carlito’s Way.
October 6th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
Oakglenn wrote:
“This team is NOT good enough to regress on any level. You have to ask yourself, why is this team regressing after one week?? ”
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Ha ha!!!!
Later, guys.
October 6th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
For some good news, I heard something like the last 10 times a team was 15 point favorites or more, they only covered twice, and lost outright twice.
The pats in the 17-0 year covered once, and the 49ers in the Super Bowl against the Chargers.
So, statistically speaking, we have as good of chance as winning as the Giants do covering.
October 6th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
Lol
October 6th, 2009 at 12:33 pm
At least Obama is president.
October 6th, 2009 at 12:38 pm
This sounds more like the issue of Russel and his develop more than anything. You can’t ask a bad system to create a good product. This sounds like the real deal to me Vegas.
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vegas raider Says:
October 6th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
MR,
I wouldn’t say I study it, I just knew a guy real-well that has been rubbing elbows with him for the last couple of months. By all accounts he is a good dude, just too much too fast. Some can handle it, some can’t, and some just go with the flow. Unfortunately, Russell is going with the Raiders flow, which is unorganized and poorly ran, with zero discipline.
October 6th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
Jerry,
How can you say that when they missed so many tackles right at the line of scrimage? The defense starting with the line were hand tackling through the whole game. Were you also satisfied with the 4 man presure and no blitx packages? How can you be a true NFl defense when you never blitz every now and then???
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Best defensive line play I’ve seen in years as a group. And they still got hammered . . . ouch.
October 6th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
wishbone Says:
October 6th, 2009 at 8:42 am
I urge all Raider fans to boycott games & merchandise until Al either hires a top notch GM & head coach or dies. This is now the seventh consecutive year that he has put a garbage product on the field. We as fans should not support this in any way at all. Al Davis does not care about the fans or the organization. He only cares about his own ego. He is a combination of Jim Jones & Hitler who will use anyone & everyone to satisfy his world of fantasy. Everyone from Cable to JR to Seymour is just collecting a check now. Winning is not an option so they are just playing to get that check. BOYCOTT, BOYCOTT, BOYCOTT. His Al Davis where it hurts the most. Tell that maniac we will not stand for this crap.
^^^^^^^Agreed!
October 6th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
I have asked Jerry 7 times about a new general manager? Al Davis admitted he needed help….
Why is Jerry avoiding the question?
October 6th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
Does anyone around here see this team winning another game this year?
Seriously…?
October 6th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
K.C.,Washington and Cleveland are the ONLY possible teams we MIGHT be able to beat but I don’t even see that happening.
October 6th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
If this team has a top 5 pick and if Clausen or Locker are there they need to seriously consider cutting their losses with Russell…..especially if their is a rookie salary cap implemented next year.
Clausen seems like the real deal…heart, work ethic, smart, strong arm and is accurate with good foot work.
They still need a RT and RG and another beast DT and beast MLB though and they of course the biggest need is for the old stubborn Al Davis to “retire”, sell or die.
October 6th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
I mean I really hope I’m wrong but the best game this team has played was week 1 and it’s gotten worse every week
October 6th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
DKnight007 Says:
October 6th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
wishbone Says:
October 6th, 2009 at 8:42 am
I urge all Raider fans to boycott games & merchandise until Al either hires a top notch GM & head coach or dies. This is now the seventh consecutive year that he has put a garbage product on the field. We as fans should not support this in any way at all. Al Davis does not care about the fans or the organization. He only cares about his own ego. He is a combination of Jim Jones & Hitler who will use anyone & everyone to satisfy his world of fantasy. Everyone from Cable to JR to Seymour is just collecting a check now. Winning is not an option so they are just playing to get that check. BOYCOTT, BOYCOTT, BOYCOTT. His Al Davis where it hurts the most. Tell that maniac we will not stand for this crap.
^^^^^^^Agreed!
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Okee dokey.
Except Al has no control regarding merchandise. All merchandise sales from all teams are owned and handled by the NFL. Monies are equally distibuted to all team.
Games being boycott?
In theory, makes sense.
Except it’s Al.
AL HONESTLY BELIEVES HE’S A GOD TO ALL RAIDER FANS.
boycotting? Al will look at it as a statement against the play, and the record.
Al’s answer to that? FIRE THE HC, GET ANOTHER PUPPET, and get even “more involved”.
What’s sad is almost everything I just stated, while tongue in cheek, is pretty much dead on.
October 6th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 6th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
Bo, I speak my mind. If it makes some sensitive people angry, so be it. It’s not my intention. I just like to talk about the truth, that’s all.
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That’s like saying the gibblygop that comes out of a baby’s mouth is “speaking her mind”.
It’s still babble that makes no sense.
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September 29th, 2009 at 1:45pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:” I’d still take Garcia. It would be kind of nice to see Jeffy running around in tight pants again.”
October 6th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
I bet you if Russel goes to another team he will develop as a pro QB in their system. Do I have any takers?
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yeah. Russell will never be anything special. I don’t care if the Patriots, Steelers or Colts signed this guy … he’d still be a turd and you know what you do with turds? you flush them!
no classy franchise will sign a guy who has a big arm, but terrible accuracy, footwork, leadership skills, lazy, overweight, nonchalant and not willing to put the work in. You can get guys like that in the draft every year. They are called undrafted free agents or late round risk/reward players who are drafted based on potential, not production.
October 6th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
If these reports about Russell are true, I think Al Davis should have Tom Cable break Russell’s jaw.
October 6th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
If you trade Russell, it would take the fast food industry years to recover in the Bay area from the loss of JR and his posse.
October 6th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
Yeah if this team has a top 5 pick (which they will) and if Clausen or Locker are there they need to seriously consider cutting their losses with Russell…..especially if their is a rookie salary cap implemented next year. Of course they should trade down if their is no rookie salary cap, but the old stupid man Al won’t do that…he will draft the best DB!! hahaha What a joke!
Clausen seems like the real deal…heart, work ethic, smart, strong arm and is accurate with good foot work.
They still need a RT and RG and another beast DT and beast MLB though and they of course the biggest need is for the old stubborn Al Davis to “retire”, sell or die.
October 6th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
OFL71 Says:
October 6th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
K.C.,Washington and Cleveland are the ONLY possible teams we MIGHT be able to beat but I don’t even see that happening.
^^^^^^Yep….with the way the offense and Russell have regressed….this team will be lucky to win the games against these crappy teams.
October 6th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
I vote for Gruden in 09! Solid candidate i believe. Who else agrees?
October 6th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
Obama/Southwick 2012
October 6th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
I vote for a new ORGANIZATION, wont be a winner until you remove all that ails….
October 6th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
xMxReaperxMx Says:
October 6th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
I vote for Gruden in 09! Solid candidate i believe. Who else agrees?
^^^^^^^Would love to see Gruden back…he would bring this team back to respectability….without a doubt!
Hire Gruden and keep Cable as O-Line coach and keep Hackett as QB coach.
Move Russell to RT! haha
October 6th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
Jim Harbough just texted me. He has a solution for JR’s accuracy problem.
A size 11 steel toed boot.
October 6th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
The whole franchise needs a complete overhaul and it starts at the top.
I would even move the team from alameda, give them a total change of scenery.
Fire all the yes men/women, lackeys, and hangers on.
Run the franchise like a real NFL franchise, not like someomnes fantasy fooltball league team.
October 6th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
Bizjournals analyzed the performances of all 122 franchises in the NBA, NFL, Major League Baseball and the National Hockey League in the 2008 calendar year. The top scores went to those teams that were strongest at the twin missions of professional sports — winning games and making money.
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Green Bay Packers (46)
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Dallas Cowboys (62)
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Oakland Raiders (100)
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October 6th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
Good find KK
If theres a article negative about the Raiders, you can bet KK will sniff it out.
October 6th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
Russell did have to rush alot of passes. Cable needs to quit talking and start producing though. We provide an environment young players do not thrive in. Look at our draft history. The proof is in the pudding.
Al Davis is a stubborn SOB! he is ruining football for raider fans!
October 6th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
Jim Harbough just texted me. He has a solution for JR’s accuracy problem.
A size 11 steel toed boot.
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you’re taking it easy on the sloth.
get Shaq in here with his size 23’s!
Shaq is trying to fight childhood obesity in America. why not start with a fellow athlete?
October 6th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
Breaking News:
We are dooooooomed!
October 6th, 2009 at 2:36 pm
Hire Gruden and keep Cable as O-Line coach and keep Hackett as QB coach.
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I think Gruden is the only respected HC prospect who would be willing to work for Al Davis. Gruden should ask for Bruce Allen as GM and more money than Bill Belichek & Jeff Fisher are making combined…
Cable has pride. he’ll find work elsewhere. He’s one of the league’s best OL coaches. he’ll land on his feet, if he doesn’t land in jail!
October 6th, 2009 at 2:36 pm
Chris Johnson broke the rules.
He was on the team when JLH was flagged last year when he almost fell on his face trying to do a back flip or whatever, lol.
If Chris Johnson and the rest of the dumbazz players can’t remember the rules, that is their problem.
Just another thing the coaching staff seems incapable of controlling or teaching.
October 6th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Raiders-cornerback-thinks-he-was-flagged-because?urn=nfl,194364&post_comment=1&success=1
Its an INSULT to everyone who’s watched and followed the game all these years to show us one thing, then repeat it from 18 angles in super hi def slow mo back and forth and then cover your employees stupidity and bias by wrapping yourself in a strict interpretation of the rules you follow ONLY when it suits you.
CHEATING.
Frankly, I’m sick of big money p*ssing on my leg and telling me its raining.
October 6th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
Conservative talk radio host Rush Limbaugh said Tuesday he is teaming up with St. Louis Blues owner Dave Checketts in a bid to buy the Rams
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whoa…
BSJ, TW & MR just found a new team to root for!
October 6th, 2009 at 2:43 pm
WHY DOES IT SEEM LIKE WE ALL CARE MORE ABOUT THE TEAM THAN THE TEAM DOES??????
October 6th, 2009 at 2:44 pm
Hang tough Raider fans. I know almost ALL of you are here for the team no matter what. some are here because they “love the abuse because it makes them feel like they are needed” (To quote Marilyn Manson)
Some of us are here becasue the Raiders represent who we are and where we are in our lives.
Down trodden, kicked, sickof getting ripped off by higher ups, spoiled bishes, the bitter clueless and the undeserving.
Some of us are waiting for this franchise to launch America back into a new age of THE PEOPLE instead of the “Patriotic” elite.
“Fix the Raiders, save the world.”
Ok, that may be a little too literal, but it seems when the Raiders are doing well, the common man does better too.
Not a conspiracy or voo doo, just an observation of the lives and times of Raider fans.
My son wrote a song I think is waaaay approprite called “I’M SICK UH WAITIN’!!!”
Agreed…
October 6th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
GUARANTEE OF THE DAY:
Recently released Titans RB and former NFL Combine workout wonder Chris Henry will soon be signed by the Raiders.
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Chris in NY: Henry just joined the Texans practice squad today. LOL! better luck next time pal …
October 6th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
Florida Pete Says:
October 6th, 2009 at 6:40 am
Jacarcass is dead meat…
he simply does not care enough to win…
time to move on…
what a waste of talent…
October 6th, 2009 at 2:48 pm
FB Justin Griffith & QB Patrick Ramsey were released this week… sign’em up
dump Lawton & Nick Miller. bench JaWalrus and let’s move on with our lives!
October 6th, 2009 at 2:48 pm
Same ol raiders. Go sharks
October 6th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
Al needs to go away, sell or die as well as Herrera and the rest of his jackass lot of evil doers and bring in a REAL GM/ personnel man!
Then Harbaugh or Gruden need to be hired as HC.
October 6th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
If the reports of Russell skipping out on meetings etc are true, he deserves to go to jail way more than Tom Cable…friggin thief…stealing Al’s money.
October 6th, 2009 at 2:52 pm
Saw earlier that someone wanted us to draft Jimmy Clauson….
…he is only a JR…stay in school Jimmy!
October 6th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
Dakota Says:
October 6th, 2009 at 2:52 pm
Saw earlier that someone wanted us to draft Jimmy Clauson….
…he is only a JR…stay in school Jimmy!
^^^^^^I said that….and I hope he comes out this year….cause in 2011, the Raiders don’t have a 1st round pick and will not get a chance to draft him! LOL
October 6th, 2009 at 2:56 pm
# xMxReaperxMx Says:
October 6th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
I vote for Gruden in 09! Solid candidate i believe. Who else agrees?
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HeII yes!!! I miss Gruden. He was a perfect Raider. Never really disses the team either. Even last night he was talking about Woodson, and he mentioned, “Now thats some old Raider bump and run coverage” something like that, and he said it with some pride. Trico and Jaworski stared snikkering like he was kidding, but he didn’t bite.
Bring him back. He should have NEVER left.
October 6th, 2009 at 2:58 pm
DKnight007,
I have a feeling Al has spent his last #1 pick on a QB with Russell. We are going to see another two decades of castoff vet QBs coming through Okland from here until at least the day Al dies.
October 6th, 2009 at 2:58 pm
At this point I would even be happy with Mike Shannahan!!
October 6th, 2009 at 3:01 pm
I have always been ready for the sequel.
Chuckies Back part two. I hope everyone saved their Chuckie dolls.
He might destroy the team in the long run but he would be a great hire for the next four years.
I would rather have him then Cowher or Holmgren or anyone else for that matter
October 6th, 2009 at 3:03 pm
F Shanahan. If he came back I might quit. Nothing would make me quit, but that might just do it.
October 6th, 2009 at 3:03 pm
I have a feeling Al has spent his last #1 pick on a QB with Russell. We are going to see another two decades of castoff vet QBs coming through Okland from here until at least the day Al dies.
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Dakota: right now I’d take Gus Frerotte, Trent Green, Brad Johnson, Trent Dilfer, Tim Hasselbeck, Jeff George, Aaron Brooks or Jeff Garcia over Russell.
Maybe even Josh Booty or Jeff Otis!
October 6th, 2009 at 3:04 pm
Huff is tough!
October 6th, 2009 at 3:05 pm
Gruden mortgaged the Raiders and the Bucs ala George Allen dolts.
October 6th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
Whine & cheese
October 6th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
Al please, hire Madden as a temporary GM, let him spend the next few weeks and months going over candidates for a permanent GM, hire whomever he suggests, then let the GM run the friggin team.
Spend your last days drooling on your sham wow and let us at least have a hope of winning!
October 6th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
# Plunketthead Says:
October 6th, 2009 at 3:01 pm
I have always been ready for the sequel.
Chuckies Back part two. I hope everyone saved their Chuckie dolls.
He might destroy the team in the long run but he would be a great hire for the next four years.
I would rather have him then Cowher or Holmgren or anyone else for that matter
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No way…I’d take Cowher given those three choices every single time
October 6th, 2009 at 3:08 pm
How bout some good Raider news you bunch a sad sacks?
Mario Henderson looks legit at LT.
Schilens could come back and perform.
Russell looked better (believe it or not)
Seymour and Ellis are serious upgrades.
October 6th, 2009 at 3:11 pm
5pm in Podunk. see you fellers tomorrow!
October 6th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
Where do you think Boomer got his information?
I would bet my last dollar … it was one of many Raider players who are feed up with JaMarcus’s act.
October 6th, 2009 at 3:14 pm
edward teach Says:
October 6th, 2009 at 6:47 am
I have to laugh when I read the comparisons some people on here are making between JR and guys like Aaron Rodgers and Brett Favre. You guys do realize that this is Russell’s second year as a starter, right? That he has an entirely new passing game (again), and is working with two rookie receivers and a pathetic excuse for an offensive line?
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Maybe you should read it AGAIN.
The comparisons was the crappy OL Rogers has … 19 sacks. I think that crappy Raider OL is better than the Packers yet their QB completes more than half of his passes. Favre’s WRs dropped passes too and he completed 3/4 of his passes.
I am pointing these things out because I am sick of hearing excuses for JR.
October 6th, 2009 at 3:14 pm
ATTENION JERRYMACANDCHEESE
Why the heck cant you fix your blog?
Is that too much too ask?
Most of us have been here for a very long time and we appreciate the work you do by waiting for daily blog fixes.
It honestly feels like you are giving us the middle finger and I am not just kidding.
I bet the majority here feel the same way.
Like Jerry is giving us the finger
October 6th, 2009 at 3:15 pm
Gruden…he would certainly be 1000 times better than The Buffoon, but I don’t know about mixing him in with the young players we have…I could see him in Dallas, but not Oakland.
Shanny…Washington or Dallas.
Holmgren…Buffalo, Jacksonville or Carolina
Cowher…Tenn, Jacksonville or Carolina
I think we should hope a decent college HC might take a chance on us…not the best situation, but better than Dennis Green.
October 6th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
The only way Shanahan, Holmgren, Cowher, or Gruden come here is if Al gives them total control…..
Not going to happen.
October 6th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
I’d also take Jack Del Rio or John Fox…but Al probably would not hire those defensive-minded coaches…and Fox probably wouldn’t touch us with a ten foot pole.
October 6th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
Jerry is stupid. He lacks any real analytical skills in terms of dissecting a game. If houston realy wanted to rest its team in the 2nd half (like teams did in 2006), then it wouldnt allow the Raiders to get 3 sacks in the second half. This D is not your 2006 D. Nnamdi and CJ are better than Nnamdi and Fabian. RS and Ellis are better than Burgess and whovever that was playing at that time.
October 6th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
El Negro Gato
Cant blame you for that. I just think Gruden can do more in the short run.
October 6th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
Boomer could be full of it. We should never believe the talking heads. Bad news sells and they are always desperate for a sale.
October 6th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
Nnamdi,
Good call. How about you guys cut the team some slacks until they get their best players back? Most of us were happy with 8-8. Right now they are 1-3. Let’s allow the schedule to play out before we start blasting them. It was only 2 weeks ago everyone was talking division. I guess if they get lucky and win one in NY everyone is back on the wagon real fast.
October 6th, 2009 at 3:22 pm
Dakota Says:
October 6th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
If the reports of Russell skipping out on meetings etc are true, he deserves to go to jail way more than Tom Cable…friggin thief…stealing Al’s money.
^^^^^^^I think they are true….when Cable was asked about it…..he basically admitted it.
Man, what is wrong with Russell??
What a waste!
October 6th, 2009 at 3:23 pm
alisgod Says:
October 6th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
Nnamdi,
Good call. How about you guys cut the team some slacks until they get their best players back? Most of us were happy with 8-8. Right now they are 1-3. Let’s allow the schedule to play out before we start blasting them. It was only 2 weeks ago everyone was talking division. I guess if they get lucky and win one in NY everyone is back on the wagon real fast
^^^^^^Suuuuuuuuuuuure……??
October 6th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
Dak
Holmgren would probaly like to stay in the bay. I bet he was hoping for Mike to fail..
I thought you were a Jim Harbough fan
October 6th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
Al I am on that wagon with you
Raiders 21 pissants 20
Breakout game!!!!
October 6th, 2009 at 3:27 pm
first and foremost cable need’s gone period !!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 6th, 2009 at 3:28 pm
look unless Al dies tomorrow, you need a guy that can work with Al Davis. It sucks but that’s reality. Sure he is too old but guess what he aint going to give up the reign.
Therefore, keep on wishing that you can get the elite coaches out there cuz none of them are going to want to come here. LIke it or not, Cable is the best guy to work with Al in years. He may sucks at playcalling and will have to give it up at some point but I’d prefer someone working with Al over someone feuding with Al.
October 6th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
Plunketthead Says:
October 6th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
Boomer could be full of it. We should never believe the talking heads.
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Nope, we’re not supposed to read the newspapers or anything.
Only what John Herrera or Davis says, yup, yup, yup. Where’s the koolaid?
October 6th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
Cable is the only guy who can fix this for sure not kitten
October 6th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
hey al davis ever hear the saying when you love something sometimes you have to set it free.
please give us our raiders back !!!!!!!
October 6th, 2009 at 3:34 pm
Texguy Says:
October 6th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
The only way Shanahan, Holmgren, Cowher, or Gruden come here is if Al gives them total control…..
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Aren’t you guys dogg tired of that lame conversation every year?
As if Holmgren or Cowher would work for Davis, geezs h christ! For gawds sakes! Hello!!!!!
October 6th, 2009 at 3:37 pm
Plunketthead Says:
October 6th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
Dak
Holmgren would probaly like to stay in the bay. I bet he was hoping for Mike to fail..
I thought you were a Jim Harbough fan
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Jim Harbaugh? Well, I am not exactly a fan, but this offseason when I was pulling for basically anyone but Tom Cable I am sure his name came up.
Harbaugh is 42-22 as a college coach, but only about 13-16 with Stanford…but hey, that is better the The Buffoon who was 11-35 in college and is 16-46 overall.
And Harbaugh spent a year or two as an assistant in Oakland, so he should know Al’s meddeling ways. I am sure we will hear his name soon because I think his extension was put on hold with Stanford, so I am sure he will at least try to use the Raiders as leverage for a new contract with Stanford lol.
October 6th, 2009 at 3:38 pm
NFL Network is about to break down the Texas game
October 6th, 2009 at 3:41 pm
Coup d’état forming in Oakland Raiders ownership?
Al Davis being deposed via a shareholder revolt would be a fitting end to his tenure as the “President of the General Partner,” as it was through Machiavellian machinations he was able to ensure that he would have that title for life. Back in the early ’70s, there were three general partners who had equal voting rights: Wayne Valley, Ed McGah, and Al Davis. Davis had been brought into the partnership by Valley after Davis’s stint as the commissioner of the AFL. By the early seventies, Valley had grown wary of Davis and had planned to have him replaced when the partnership agreement was to be redone in 1976. Davis, knowing that he had fallen out of favor with Valley, cozied up to McGah who to that point had not been active in running the team.
Whilst Valley was out of the country attending the Olympics, Davis struck. He was able to convince McGah to agree to a changed partnership agreement that insured that Davis could not be removed. It only took two out of the three partners’ votes to amend the deal. Valley was livid, and he sued Davis to have that change removed. Valley lost and ultimately sold his stake in the Raiders, having been broken by Davis.
The limited partners do not have the statutory authority under the partnership agreement to amend the agreement in a way that would force Davis out as he had done to Valley. In fact, the limiteds don’t have any say over Davis or the day-to-day running of the team. Basically the limited partners have two options for regime change in Oakland:
The Legal Option:
The limited partners could join together in a lawsuit to have Davis removed claiming incompetence and mismanagement. There are two problems with this scenario. The first being that Al Davis has spent more time in courtrooms than the owner’s box and has a team of lawyers instantly at his disposal. Essentially there is little for the limited partners to stand on as most of them bought their shares well after Davis took over. This option is really a long shot at best, although it would further marginalize Davis in the minds of the Raider Nation.
The NFL Option:
This option actually has the better chance of success. As the owner of the Oakland Raiders, Al Davis is 1/32 owner of the NFL, but he is also a franchisee of the NFL. What that means is that despite the fact that Davis is dictator of the Oakland Raiders, he has to abide by the bylaws and contracts of the National Football League. In the normal context of football operations, this means that he has to obey the salary cap, rules of free agency and draft order. However, if the limited partners can convince the NFL leadership that Al Davis is no longer running the team in a manner consistent with league standards, theoretically the league can step in. If the league in concert with the limited partners were to make a move against Al Davis, the litigation would commence immediately.
October 6th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
The coach talk for me is simply entertainment.
I hope Cable wins at least 5 more games.
Theres no proof that a new coach will do much better and I am like Cable. I think the team is real real close.
If Attendence keeps dropping Cable is likely to be here for awhile.
October 6th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
If you read what Jerry Mac says basically NOTHING will ever change until Al is dead and BTW both of Al’s parents lived to 100+. If JR ever gets bad enough to where Al gets rid of him he will always say the coaches did not take advantage of his ability. Since a huge chunk of season tickets have been bought & people treat it as a social event I guess there is no shot at a fan boycott. So, I think the only way to turn this thing around is if players like Nnamdi & Seymour just say enough is enough. Reality is though people usually don’t bite the hand that feeds them. Now I do have a reach of a suggestion for all of us die hard Raider fan. Get out your Al Davis dolls and start sticking pins in them. Start going to voodoo worship and pray for Al to kick the bucket. Or we take up a collection and pay off someone in the building to loosen the wheels on Al’s walker. Maybe give the old man a toxic diaper? Arsnic in his metamusil?
October 6th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
Nnamdi21 Says:
October 6th, 2009 at 3:08 pm
How bout some good Raider news you bunch a sad sacks?
Mario Henderson looks legit at LT.
Schilens could come back and perform.
Russell looked better (believe it or not)
Seymour and Ellis are serious upgrades.
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Looks legit at LT? Well, you can sure see the results in the run game
Yeah..Schilens COULD come back and perform. He could also NOT come and perform.
Russell looked better? BETTER THAN WHAT? He still had a qb rating in the 40’s..and it’s still one of the worst, if not THE worst.
Seymour and Ellis are upgrades. So now instead of a really really really bad run defense, it’s a really really bad run defense.
Yep, warm and fuzzies all around.
October 6th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
I also mentioned McDaniels, Haley, Bates, Fassel, Gilbride…pretty much anyone but Cable.
Cable fooled you guys with a couple of meanigless wins at the end of the year…not me.
October 6th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
Raiders ownership
Once he rejoined the Raiders organization, Davis ruthlessly attempted to gain power within the club. In 1972, while managing general partner Valley was attending the 1972 Summer Olympics in Munich, Davis drafted a revised partnership agreement that made him the new managing general partner, with near-absolute control over team operations. McGah signed the agreement. Since two of the team’s three general partners had voted in favor of the agreement, it was binding under partnership law of the time. Valley sued to overturn the agreement once he returned to the country, but was unsuccessful. Valley sold his interest in 1976, and no other partners have had any role in running the club since. This was despite the fact that Davis did not acquire a majority interest in the Raiders until 2005, when he bought the shares held by McGah’s family. He now owns approximately 67 percent of the interests in the partnership through his company, A.D. Football, Inc.
October 6th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
At least mcfumbleglass wont be hurtin the o 4 a while. Bush is our only hope.
October 6th, 2009 at 3:53 pm
In 2007, Davis sold a minority stake in the Raiders for $150 million[3] and said that he would not retire until he wins two more Super Bowls or dies.[4]
Al Davis’s wife and son Mark are his direct heirs. Mark Davis has been seen around the Raiders facilities in recent years and is thought to be interested in running the team.
October 6th, 2009 at 3:53 pm
Dakota. You ready 2 admit mcfadden isnt the guy yet
October 6th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
Adam_Schefter Raiders also looking an old familiar OT face – Langston Walker brought in to Oakland for a tryout.
about 1 hour ago from UberTwitter
were saved thank god lmfao
October 6th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
Wishbone…chill man, no wishing death on people…I can’t stand Al but I don’t wish him dead…incapacitated or institutionalized fo sho, but not dead.
October 6th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
I would like to say that as leader of this franchise, the greatness of the Raiders comes from our players, not our coaches. JaBreakfast Burritto is exempt from meetings where no food is served. Our coaches are not allowed to coach him…only rever in his largeness… As for our receivers, they strike fear in other teams with their breath…their hands are like stone, so that may scare them as well…
Just remember, I am always right… All hail Al, ruler of the nation
October 6th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
Pipedreams all of this Gruden talk.
He’s not coming back because Davis will never give him the control he wants,PERIOD!
We will never get a coach(a real coach,not Al’s next pet)until the old man bites it,PERIOD!
Face it Raider fans,this is what we have to cheer for til that day comes,mediocrity AT BEST.
October 6th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
408,
I am putting you on the McFadden hater list….you will eat those words!!!!!!!!
muhahahahaha
October 6th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
Maverick…
I like that name…reminds me of when I used to ride bowlen and hunt in the elevators…
The greatness of the Raiders is in your wallets that you keep opening up and making me richer!
Remeber, my mom lived to be 108. You still have atleast 20 more years with me…
October 6th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
KK this is exactly why the league won’t do anything. The vast majority of owners, players, former players, execs, ect. are all laughing their a&& off at Al. This is Karma coming back to bite the old man. This is actually the curse of Wayne Valley. Remember when Mr. Valley passed away and his widow wouldn’t let Al within a mile or something of the funeral. Unfortuneately all of us die hard Raider fans now have to suffer for Al’s sins.
October 6th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
Still in McFadden’s corner:
DAKOTA!!!
McFadden Haters:
Everyone else
October 6th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
Karma is right,Davis has played the role of the maverick,outsider,antagonist to the NFL for decades.
Does anybody really think that there’s anyone leaguewide who feels bad for Al?
HELL NO
October 6th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
Dakota—-Ok I will settle for the institute thing. Leave him in there with no teeth and no belt. Change his diapers once a week. Make him suffer the way all of us are now.
October 6th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
I think KoolKell is John Hererra in disguise.
October 6th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
Wishbone
I agree, Karma. I think it’s helpful for some of the younger fans to get some perspective on the “holy” Al Davis.
Yea, I remember Mrs Valley’s numerous statements about Davis.
October 6th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
408RAIDER Says:
October 6th, 2009 at 3:53 pm
Dakota. You ready 2 admit mcfadden isnt the guy yet
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I am willing to admit that none of our RBs can perform with the current state of the o-line, QB and head coach.
October 6th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
http://bizoffootball.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=554:roger-goodell-will-walk-fine-line-with-edwards-and-cable-incidents&catid=44:articles-and-opinion&Itemid=61
October 6th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
KK I sat in a box for a game with George Atkinson and Mark Davis. I can testify that Mark Davis knows very little about football and even less about running a business. He likes to hang with ex-players and I think he trusts them. When the time comes I believe he will hire a lot of people to help him.
October 6th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
Krappy, wouldn’t you feel rewarded as a Raider fan – and senile old goat – if you and Al checked into a nice, safe retirement home together? Think of all the good it would do -
1) The Raiders would improve drastically under new ownership
2) The sanitation workers of Oakland would have 800 lbs less of crappy old man diapers to dispose of every year
Think about it, Krappy – you’d be helping your team AND the environment. Not to mention the scared little kids at Arby’s.
Signed,
The men and women of the Nation
October 6th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
Krappy, wouldn’t you feel rewarded as a Raider fan – and senile old goat – if you and Al checked into a nice, safe retirement home together? Think of all the good it would do -
1) The Raiders would improve drastically under new ownership
2) The sanitation workers of Oakland would have 800 lbs less of crappy old man diapers to dispose of every year
Think about it, Krappy – you’d be helping your team AND the environment. Not to mention the scared little kids at Arby’s.
Signed,
The men and women of the Nation
October 6th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
Just heard that the Raiders have brought in OT Langston Walker for a workout. He’s gotta be better than Pears at RT right? He may even be, dare I say it, an upgrade over old mop handle.
October 6th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
You can’t necessarily hate on or blame Al Davis for taking over Wayne Valley’s shares. That is just business, and it happens everyday. Case in point; Bill Gates. Business is ruthless, and that’s just how it is.
Now I am not defending Al “Shames Us” Davis one bit, but even still, that move was business, and you really can’t hate on that move.
October 6th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
Dakota
McFadden has ball handling issues under any system. He fumbled the ball more than 20 times in college. I like the kid but I think his problems aren’t because of the Raiders organization. Unless he knew he would be drafted by the Raiders his entire college career and started fumbling then to get ready for the big time.
October 6th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
A floor lamp would put up more resistance than our current O-line(Gallery/Henderson excluded)
October 6th, 2009 at 4:10 pm
Dogg, what is up?
Ready for the NBA to begin? Sounds like Rudolph and Curry might be decent. And you still have Drago cleaning the boards.
October 6th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
Wishbone Says:
October 6th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
KK I sat in a box for a game with George Atkinson and Mark Davis. I can testify that Mark Davis knows very little about football and even less about running a business.
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Wishbone
Why do you think that is? Isn’t he Davis’ only child. Davis didn’t groom the boy at all? Why.
I’d appreciate your thoughts, it’s a mystery to me.
October 6th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
Dakota
Wright hurt his shoulder against the Clips the other night, will have surgery. Not very happy about that. Rudy and Curry look good, I like Curry a lot. You guys still want Jackson?
How is your new look Lakers team gelling so far? Artest a model citizen I’m sure. I hear he’s been hanging out with Manny Ramirez and his crew.
October 6th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
Gannon: Head Coach
Tim Brown: Receivers Coach
Marcus Allen: RB’s Coach
Steve Wiznewski: O Line Coach
Mike Haynes: Defensive Backs Coach
Matt Millen: LB’s Coach
Howie Long: D Line Coach
Owner: Anyone but Al “Shames Us” Davis
October 6th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
As soon as Gallery went down our O-line went to hell.
October 6th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
Einstein—read a book called Dark Knight about Al. He isn’t a ruthless businessman. In many ways he is a complete fraud. What he did to get coaching jobs & work his way up in the day & age would be outright fraud. Didn’t a guy get hired at Notre Dame & then find out he lied on his resume??? Also, what he did to Wayne Velley was nothing short of fraud and theft. Al was a very smart man at one time, but I think he gets credit for being a great football guy when some of it was just plain fraud.
October 6th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
I am glad Al took over the team from Valley…he won us 3 SBs which probably would not have happened under Valley…so foooook Wayne Valley and his wife!!!
Now Al is the new Wayne Valley…standing directly in the way of winning.
Foook Al too!
Go RAIDERS not Al Davis!
October 6th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
LMN
If I recall correctly Bing was a Kiffin guy. I could be mistaken.
Hello btw, hope all is well with you and yours.
October 6th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
# wishbone Says:
October 6th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
Einstein—read a book called Dark Knight about Al. He isn’t a ruthless businessman. In many ways he is a complete fraud. What he did to get coaching jobs & work his way up in the day & age would be outright fraud. Didn’t a guy get hired at Notre Dame & then find out he lied on his resume??? Also, what he did to Wayne Velley was nothing short of fraud and theft. Al was a very smart man at one time, but I think he gets credit for being a great football guy when some of it was just plain fraud.
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I don’t dis-agree with you regarding Al and his tactics. But, I do have some experience with the business world and corporate business, and I can assure you this goes on everyday, and isn’t out of the ordinary.
Still I am not defending Al “Shames Us” Davis, just making a point.
October 6th, 2009 at 4:18 pm
Dogg,
Everything is fine in LA. I watched 2 hours of training camp on NBA TV the other day and Artest was very attentive…looked like he was soaking in every word Phil had to say.
I think it is going to work out quite nicely if he continues that course.
Bynum looked like he was in great shape too. Gasol’s finger looked jacked up though and that is a worry…it is on his left hand, but he goes to that nice little left handed floater quite often, so that is about my only worry at this time.
October 6th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
—”Lions waived LB Darnell Bing. The Lions tried to convert Bing from strong safety to linebacker, but it didn’t take. He’ll try to catch on as a special teamer elsewhere”—
LOL, one of Al’s great players…
October 6th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
Dakota Says:
October 6th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
I am glad Al took over the team from Valley…he won us 3 SBs which probably would not have happened under Valley…so foooook Wayne Valley and his wife!!!
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Classless Dakota. I could make unsubstantiated crude remarks about your wife too, wanna hear?
Davis won us 3 SB’s? really? do you know the extent of his participation in those wins?
How about all the Hall of Famers, Ron Wolfe?
You young pootbutts know nothing Raider History prior to John Gruden. But you can certainly make crude uninformed statements.
October 6th, 2009 at 4:23 pm
Worried about Bynum. He thinks he’s soaked in all the NBA center knowledge that Kareem had to offer. So they let him go. Mistake.
October 6th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
KK,
Take your class and stick it up your you know what…
October 6th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
Dakota are Pau Gasol & his brother the two guys in the Geico commercials?
October 6th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
GRUDEN! GRUDEN! GRUDEN!
October 6th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
KoolKell is such a miserable bitter old man. It’s sad really. I bet he goes through a keyboard every other day because he probably slams it on his desk out of frustration and anger. Take a prozac you old goat.
October 6th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
See, i don’t understand everyone’s reasoning for hating on McFadden. To me, it’s the way he’s utilized. He never runs on successive downs, it seems that cable gives up on him (and the running games for that matter) way to quickly. To me, it seems that he doesn’t understand the importance of consistency, and relies to much on Russell, and his two rookie WR’s. Doesn’t he understand that by getting the running games going it will open things up for Russell and Co.? I think that in terms of upside and value, McFadden has the most of any RB on our team, and he and Bush could certainly be a powerful force if they we’re used properly.
I think this comes down to our outdated style of offense, and a yes man for a head coach. We need someone in the organization that can implement a modern offense, why are we the only team in the NFL that run’s this style of offense? It’s like Al just decided that we would run the same playbook from the 80’s. But he seems to have forgotten that it’s a new era, and we need to bring the organization to that level.
Gruden In 2010!
October 6th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
Dakota Says:
October 6th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
KK,
Take your class and stick it up your you know what…
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I already stuck it up her you know what.
October 6th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
KK,
How do you know that had Al Davis not been around during the 3 SB winning seasons that Ron Wolf or anyone else would have been either? You take one variable out of those winning equations, including Al Davis, and everything changes and chances are we don’t win all of those SBs.
So for that, I am glad Al Davis was around.
October 6th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
KK,
You stuck your class up your wife’s you know what? Good for you!!!!!
As old as you are that is probably all she can expect these days.
October 6th, 2009 at 4:30 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 6th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
Classless Dakota. I could make unsubstantiated crude remarks about your wife too, wanna hear?
KoolKell Says:
October 6th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
I already stuck it up her you know what.
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Classless KoolKell.
October 6th, 2009 at 4:30 pm
wishbone Says:
October 6th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
Dakota are Pau Gasol & his brother the two guys in the Geico commercials?
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LMFAO!
October 6th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
Lol, poor KK…sad old limppy…while in bed your wife told me you can’t even take the little blue pill cuz of the heart meds you are on.
Think of me everytime your wife gets a little smile on her face….
October 6th, 2009 at 4:33 pm
Dakota
When you see that little Afro-Baby, with the brohawk, when your wife is delivering………remember what I told you today.
October 6th, 2009 at 4:33 pm
KoolKell said “pootbutt”
That’s the word of the day! You win season tickets to the Oakland Rai…oh never mind you won’t use them anyway…
October 6th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
The line should be: Giants -22.
If we get lucky it might be that close…
Giants 34 Raiders 10
Isn’t great to be a Raider fan?
October 6th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
Raiders: Inept, undiciplined, incompetent, year after year after yearafteryearafteryearafteryearafteryearafteryeafter.
October 6th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
see ya Dakota
October 6th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
It’s so easy even a Gasol can do it.
October 6th, 2009 at 4:44 pm
Laters.
October 6th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
Funny comment about the Raiders stunning the Giants next Sunday but the thing is, there is enough talent to make that happen.
Their just not a team.
October 6th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
A last, huge major difference between the 2009 editions of the Raiders and 49ers that I left out of the following column:
John York gave it a go as 49ers owner, ran aground, and eventually turned the wheel over to his son Jed, who is a more natural fit as a franchise overseer.
Al Davis has beached the Raiders. Badly. Actually he did it years ago, and now it’s just getting into Goofy Land, but we won’t see him turning over anything to his son Mark.
And, you know, I’m just guessing that Mark isn’t quite a level-headed triumph of an ownership option, either. Just an e-mail recipient’s guess.
Big difference. Other than the difference between Singletary with credibility and Cable without a ghost of a chance, this is probably the real difference in these separating franchises.
—the column/
–They were not so different a year ago, though the Raiders and 49ers inhabit separate NFL worlds right now.
Mike Singletary took over the 49ers in the middle of last season as an interim coach, just a few weeks after Tom Cable did the same with the Raiders.
They both landed the full-time gig, and both were determined to charge ferociously into 2009.
Singletary’s career record so far: 8-5, a true turnaround.
Cable’s record: 5-11, a true duplication of the Raiders’ failures before him.
October 6th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
# RaiderDogg Says:
October 6th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
As soon as Gallery went down our O-line went to hell.
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Well said. The one thing that comes out in all of this is how good Rob Gallery actually is. And not just as an Olineman. But as a physical presence and leader of the offense.
October 6th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
See, i don’t understand everyone’s reasoning for hating on McFadden. To me, it’s the way he’s utilized. He never runs on successive downs, it seems that cable gives up on him (and the running games for that matter) way to quickly. To me, it seems that he doesn’t understand the importance of consistency, and relies to much on Russell, and his two rookie WR’s. Doesn’t he understand that by getting the running games going it will open things up for Russell and Co.? I think that in terms of upside and value, McFadden has the most of any RB on our team, and he and Bush could certainly be a powerful force if they we’re used properly.
I think this comes down to our outdated style of offense, and a yes man for a head coach. We need someone in the organization that can implement a modern offense, why are we the only team in the NFL that run’s this style of offense? It’s like Al just decided that we would run the same playbook from the 80’s. But he seems to have forgotten that it’s a new era, and we need to bring the organization to that level.
Gruden In 2010!
October 6th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
Two hours later, Cable tried his best to sound unruffled, but looked wary and seemed like he was mostly going through the motions.
When asked about his personal feelings regarding his boss, Al Davis, Cable just stood and smiled. “You guys know how I feel” he said. As he walked away, everyone in the press room clearly heard Cable utter under his breath the word “pootbutt”.
Which befits the coach of a 1-3 team that has floundered offensively and is owned by Al Davis.
October 6th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
Tigers vs. Twins is a good game….
October 6th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
On Monday, Singletary met the media looking confident, sounding realistic, and probably ready for a thousand more games.
No worries: His 49ers are a hard-edge 3-1 and already are the class of the NFC West.
“I think we are a ways away,” Singletary said when asked if the 49ers were close to being an elite team. But he sure sounded like he knew he might get there soon.
Two hours later, Cable tried his best to sound unruffled, but looked wary and seemed like he was mostly going through the motions.
Which befits the coach of a 1-3 team that has floundered offensively and is owned by Al Davis.
October 6th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
The 49ers have made sure their locker room is stocked with leaders — Singletary said his entire defensive unit could be called leaders. The Raiders don’t believe in team leaders. Davis believes in raw talent, and in getting credit for acquiring that raw talent.
October 6th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
# KoolKell Says:
October 6th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
The 49ers have made sure their locker room is stocked with leaders — Singletary said his entire defensive unit could be called leaders. The Raiders don’t believe in team leaders. Davis believes in raw talent, and in getting credit for acquiring that raw talent.
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Unfortunately, all too true.
October 6th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
KK
You get your Patrick Willis jersey yet?
October 6th, 2009 at 5:06 pm
Check out this SportingNews Mock.
Surprised they got us picking #12.
LMFAO they Crabtree going right after our pick.
(*-denotes underclassmen; updated 10/2)
1. Cleveland Browns
*Sam Bradford, QB, Oklahoma
2. St. Louis Rams
*Gerald McCoy, DT, Oklahoma
3. Kansas City Chiefs
Trent Williams, OT, Oklahoma
4. Tennessee Titans
*Carlos Dunlap, DE, Florida
5. Tampa Bay Bucs
*Eric Berry, DB, Tennessee
6. San Francisco 49ers (from Carolina)
Dez Bryant, WR, Oklahoma State
7. Miami Dolphins
*Arrelious Benn, WR, Illinois
8. Pittsburgh Steelers
Russell Okung, OT, Oklahoma State
9. Arizona Cardinals
Jermaine Gresham, TE, Oklahoma
10. Seattle Seahawks
*Bryan Bulaga, OT, Iowa
11. Detroit Lions
Ndamukong Suh, DT, Nebraska
12. Oakland Raiders
Tim Tebow, QB, Florida
13. Washington Redskins
Michael Crabtree, WR, Texas Tech
14. Houston Texans
*Anthony Davis, OL, Rutgers
15. Jacksonville Jaguars
Colt McCoy, QB, Texas
16. Buffalo Bills
*Greg Jones, OLB, Michigan State
Get the rest of SN’s initial 2010 first-round mock draft exclusively inside the
Pro Football War Room.
October 6th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
xMxReaperxMx Says:
October 6th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
See, i don’t understand everyone’s reasoning for hating on McFadden.
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I can tell you exactly why. He has NOT been productive ON ANY LEVEL. While I don’t blame him for last year, he has rushed 47 times for 147 yards or roughly 3 yards per attempt. And he’s fumbled FOUR TIMES!!! In forty seven attempts! Breathe on him and he goes down. He single handedly lost the Denver game with three fumbles. 2 of them choked off crucial drives, and one of them on the Denver four yard line, ended any chance of us coming back in that game. In the last game he ran 6 times for MINUS three yards. Hey, I can run backwards. Nothing special there. I, ME, OAKGLENN, can walk out onto an NFL football field and LOSE YARDAGE! I can do that!!! You want me to keep going??
October 6th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
October 6th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
If you trade Russell, it would take the fast food industry years to recover in the Bay area from the loss of JR and his posse.
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LMFAOFF
October 6th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
Oakglenn Says:
October 6th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
xMxReaperxMx Says:
October 6th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
See, i don’t understand everyone’s reasoning for hating on McFadden.
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I can tell you exactly why. He has NOT been productive ON ANY LEVEL. While I don’t blame him for last year, he has rushed 47 times for 147 yards or roughly 3 yards per attempt. And he’s fumbled FOUR TIMES!!! In forty seven attempts! Breathe on him and he goes down. He single handedly lost the Denver game with three fumbles. 2 of them choked off crucial drives, and one of them on the Denver four yard line, ended any chance of us coming back in that game. In the last game he ran 6 times for MINUS three yards. Hey, I can run backwards. Nothing special there. I, ME, OAKGLENN, can walk out onto an NFL football field and LOSE YARDAGE! I can do that!!! You want me to keep going??
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you wouldnt just lose yardage oak with this o-line you would need a life flight.
we have 3 quality back well 2 and a good back up none of them can get out of the backfield because they are running into the fatt azz’s up front. ( bo jackson himself wouldn’t have got any yardage sunday) imho
not 100 percent of this falls on Mcfumble but no matter how many times you get tackled this is the pros you gotta hold onto the ball.
October 6th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
October 6th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
On Monday, Singletary met the media looking confident, sounding realistic, and probably ready for a thousand more games.
No worries: His 49ers are a hard-edge 3-1 and already are the class of the NFC West.
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Yeah, and the Whiners three wins have come against teams with a combined record of 2-9!! That is a .182 winning percentage his teams have beaten. He has played one winning team, and he lost.
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And with regards to my Dmac comment when I said he has not been productive on any level, I meant as a pro. His overall run production has been poor, his receiving subpar, his YAC non existent, at least his blocking has been OK.
October 6th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
Brandon Spikes
October 6th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
DMC has been all hype thus far. We heard all this about him being 100% and how he’s gonna rip it up this year. blah…blah…Meanwhile he’s getting tripped up by blades of grass.
…and we thought Farglass goes down easily?
October 6th, 2009 at 5:21 pm
At least Fargas is a physical player. They all said Dmac would be a monster player. If Dmac is indeed a monster, that monster would be named “Fumblor”!!
October 6th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
I would be AGAINST the Raiders ever drafting a QB again. Sign Michael Vick if Russell’s troubles continue.
The Raiders need an athletic playmaker to play behind this jalopy like offensive line that Al Davis refused to upgrade in the offseason.
Let’s face it folks. This team isn’t good at developing elite talent…a few role players here and there but no elite talent.
So no Tebow, Bradford or anyone else.
Set your sites on Michael Vick, Rex Grossman and JP Losman. Those are my top 3
WHERE’S THE COMMISSIONER?
October 6th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
2009 Darrius Heyward Bey
2008 Darren McFadden
2007 JaMarcus Russell
2006 Michael Huff
2005 Fabian Washington
2004 Robert Gallery
2003 Nnamdi Asomougha
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If the draft is a crapshoot, the Raiders would benefit from the laws of averages, sometimes, no?
October 6th, 2009 at 5:28 pm
Oaklglen,
The Raiders need to attack the Giants next week. They gotta throw the ball at least 60% of the time and run Michael Bush the other 40%.
The Giants front 7 is just plain scary. They are talented AND well-coached AND deep at all positions. The secondary has some holes though.
Can’t line up and try to pound the rock…gotta throw it.
WHERE’S THE COMMISSIONER?
October 6th, 2009 at 5:31 pm
DMAC has been poorly used. They try to pound him up the middle all day long and that’s not his game in the NFL. Why doesn’t he ever lineup against the linebacker…I only saw that on the 1st play of the year. They were supposed to pound Michael Bush and run DMAC on the edge.
But Cable’s playcalling is so stupid that none of it worked. Now DMAC is injured AGAIN and we are left with a big serving of Justin Fargas and his no vision run style.
But he plays hard.
only in Oakland does results not matter!
WHERE’S THE COMMISSIONER?
October 6th, 2009 at 5:32 pm
The reason people hate on McFadden is because he hasn’t produced anywhere near what a player picked at his slot in the draft should.
Another reason maybe that he can’t stay healthy.
Another reason maybe that he can’t hold on to the ball.
Another reason maybe that he gets tackled by the breeze.
Another reason maybe that he’s a 3rd down back,at best.
Another reason maybe that Matt Forte,Jonathan Stewart,Felix Jones,Chris Johnson,Rashard Mendenhall,Ray Rice,Kevin Smith,Steve Slaton,Tim Hightower,Tashard Choice are all better RB than him at this point but drafted later,not to mention Joe Flacco,Ryan Clady,Jerod Mayo,Jeff Otah,DeSean Jackson,etc…
October 6th, 2009 at 5:37 pm
SnB
Are you sayin Cable got Dmac hurt?
C’mon now…
October 6th, 2009 at 5:38 pm
20 of 24 Raider 1st and 2nd round picks/trades with those picks have busted out.
I don’t know if blaming the players is even fair anymore. Especially given that quite a few of them can carve out careers away from the blackhole.
Its the organzation. Sub-par coaching and a lack of discipline. Hell, look at the impact on Special Teams. That Schneider guy had them playing. He leaves and now that unit is among the worst in the league
October 6th, 2009 at 5:41 pm
OFL71 Says:
October 6th, 2009 at 5:37 pm
SnB
Are you sayin Cable got Dmac hurt?
C’mon now…
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No Cable didn’t get him hurt…his P.O.S O-line got him hurt.
Look, this offense the raiders run is sooooo sloooooooowwww. Nothing develops quickly because the players are running an ancient offense.
Where is DMAC in the slot. Where are the screens and sweeps….
Look DMAC is not a top 5 draft pick and he is not as good as Michael Bush. But the guy can play….just that the bed n breakfast is so antiquated that I will bet its a running joke in NFL circles
WHERE’S THE COMMISSIONER?
October 6th, 2009 at 5:43 pm
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
October 6th, 2009 at 5:28 pm
Oaklglen,
The Raiders need to attack the Giants next week. They gotta throw the ball at least 60% of the time and run Michael Bush the other 40%.
The Giants front 7 is just plain scary. They are talented AND well-coached AND deep at all positions. The secondary has some holes though.
Can’t line up and try to pound the rock…gotta throw it.
WHERE’S THE COMMISSIONER?
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I think S&B, you are completely right. The thing you have to do with this team is throw on lst down, run draws and screens to slow down the pass rush, and then air it out at times to get the defense to play the entire field. Then, you can try pounding it at them. Until DHB and Murphy are productive players we are going to struggle. Higgins cannot play. Miller is questionable. Someone HAS to emerge. Is that “Jivin”?? Doubtful. I could go out right now throw on some pads and a hat, and have no problem covering “Jivin.” I think the guy that HAS to emerge is Todd Watkins. Now, that is all the bad news. The good news is in sports a team that can put together an all around effort, on offense, defense and special teams, and beat a strong opponent can sometimes quickly catch fire. (See Whiners, SF 2009)
October 6th, 2009 at 5:47 pm
there have been TONS of crap calls this year.
October 6th, 2009 at 5:47 pm
Oakglen,
I am hoping that Schilens can get back in there this week. I would love to see the band get back together and see Schilens and JLH out there. But Cable, for some reason, really has it in for JLH..also Bush and Walker.
Losing Schilens in training camp crippled this team and quite possibly will end some careers.
Trotting out two rookie receivers as starters is lunacy to be honest with you. Just completely insane. especially when they were not ripping it up in camp.
Anyway, throw the ball and force the Giants to back off. Can I get a slant please?
WHERE’S THE COMMISSIONER?
October 6th, 2009 at 5:52 pm
Don’t get me wrong I agree that Dmac is being used completely wrong,I agree that our O-line is atrocious.
But he was another wasted pick,we could have gotten so much better.
He reminds me of Reggie Bush,just not as explosive.
October 6th, 2009 at 5:55 pm
It was obvious Bey was not ready to play, since camp, but he’s got first class tickets.
October 6th, 2009 at 5:58 pm
I think some of you guys feel Cable has some vendettas against certain guys. I am POSITIVE
October 6th, 2009 at 6:05 pm
Sorry that should not have posted.
What I was saying is I am positive Cable wants PRODUCTIVE guys out there. I also don’t believe Jivin has it. Bush did not have his blocking assignments down so he did not play much last year, now he seems better.
Bottom line is Kiffin hauled out Curry, Jivin, Lelie, and Drew Carter at the expense of JLH, Shilens, Watkins and the others. Now, other than Jivin, none are even IN the league. I agree with Davis. Let’s not make that same mistake again. Let’s put DHB, Murphy, Shilens, Higgins and Watkins out there, and let them develop along with Mike Bush and Dmac. Unfortunately, that is going to be a VERY painful process. The one thing that I noticed as that Texan game went on was to a very tiny degree DHB and Murphy seemed to play with more intensity and crispness. That is a good sign.
October 6th, 2009 at 6:07 pm
A lot of good points about our young skilled positions,however none of it maters until we address the O-line.Keep Gallery,Henderson and scrap the rest!
October 6th, 2009 at 6:09 pm
You and Priest are in a dead heat for most uncontrollable lapse of judgment, reality, and reason.
What do you drink before you begin your mindless rants?
Oakglenn Says:
October 6th, 2009 at 5:43 pm
I could go out right now throw on some pads and a hat, and have no problem covering “Jivin.”
October 6th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
The Raiders took the running game for granted in camp, emphasizing the QB & Young WR’s and neglected the run game entirely.
In the opener they came out running successfully in the 1st half.
Since, it’s been all about getting the ball to the WR’s. Other parts of the offensive game disregarded.
Why? My guess, Al Davis’ directive.
October 6th, 2009 at 6:21 pm
# Oakglenn Says:
October 5th, 2009 at 10:48 pm
# Mistabrown Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 11:10 pm
Trevor Scott had a horrible game. Is Richardson hurt or inactive I dont remember seeing him for a couple weeks.
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You don’t even have ANY idea what is going on out there. The last time I called you on it, you claimed you spend basically the 2nd half trying to buy a Browns hat. Why do you think anyone takes anything you think seriously?? You are a joke. But just so you know, Jay Richardson was the one in the black jersey and silver pants the last few weeks with #98 on it.
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Why don’t you go take a nap on a toilet somewhere before you start embarrassing yourself again. But how bout Dem Browns!!!
October 6th, 2009 at 6:26 pm
Oakglen you are still talking about the Browns?
lmao
When you start typing about putting on pads & covering J Walker do you have a big dorky koolaid smile like a kid with autism or are you serious about this ?
J Richardson didnt log a stat until week 4 so I was right havent seen him in a couple weeks!
October 6th, 2009 at 6:29 pm
# Mistabrown Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 11:10 pm
Trevor Scott had a horrible game. Is Richardson hurt or inactive I dont remember seeing him for a couple weeks.
# Mistabrown Says:
October 6th, 2009 at 6:26 pm
J Richardson didnt log a stat until week 4 so I was right havent seen him in a couple weeks!
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Just cause you didn’t see him doesn’t mean he didn’t play now does it?? Unless you are stuck in some bizarro ego centric world where only you exist. But you were probably watching the overtime Browns Bunghole game weren’t you?? mista brown ins’t there some food on a floor somewhere you can lick up??
October 6th, 2009 at 6:33 pm
Well actually “anyone” could cover Walker right now seeing how he can’t sniff the field…
Just f’in around…kinda
October 6th, 2009 at 6:38 pm
J Richardson didnt record a single sack or tackle until week 4.
I could repeat it for you but you have wood for a brain…look it up.
# Oakglenn Says:
October 6th, 2009 at 6:29 pm
Just cause you didn’t see him doesn’t mean he didn’t play now does it?? Unless you are stuck in some bizarro ego centric world where only you exist. But you were probably watching the overtime Browns Bunghole game weren’t you?? mista brown ins’t there some food on a floor somewhere you can lick up??
October 6th, 2009 at 6:42 pm
Priest,
One thing that I noticed is that J Richardson didnt record a single tackle or sack until week 4.
Hmmmmm
priesttj Says:
October 5th, 2009 at 11:35 pm
One thing I have noticed that is very positive is that Jay Rich has gotten a lot better under Board n so has Kelly an Warren were dominant inside. Ellis is everything we could’ve hoped for. This Dline is on it’s way to gelling. Now if we could get Morrison and Co. on board. Our secondary is a shade under elite with Huff playing the way he is and Branch is just a player.
October 6th, 2009 at 6:48 pm
Mistabrown Says:
October 6th, 2009 at 6:38 pm
J Richardson didnt record a single sack or tackle until week 4.
I could repeat it for you but you have wood for a brain…look it up.
# Mistabrown Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 11:10 pm
Is Richardson hurt or inactive I dont remember seeing him for a couple weeks.
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If Nnam is out on the corner and they don’t throw at him, he has no tackles, int’s or passes defended that doesn’t mean he wasn’t out there now does it?? Unless you are some ego centric wood head like you said. But go Brady Quinn!! Right mista browns fan!!
October 6th, 2009 at 7:17 pm
OFL71 Says:
October 6th, 2009 at 6:07 pm
A lot of good points about our young skilled positions,however none of it matters until we address the O-line.Keep Gallery,Henderson and scrap the rest!
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Agreed.
October 6th, 2009 at 7:33 pm
LINE NOT THE ONLY OFFENSIVE THING ABOUT THE RAIDER O
RNS Exclusive:
At this point, the news of Darren McFadden’s knee surgery and subsequent loss for 2-4 weeks is really no loss at all.
He had a tear to the meniscus in his right knee worked on Tuesday.
Eric Pears, Samson Satele and 3rd string center / guard Chris Morris are manning the O line.
Coach Tom Cable may be overly optimistic about left guard Robert Gallery’s return from a broken leg and left tackle Khalif Barnes viability.
Barnes will have to be “retrained” to take over right side duties for the injured Cornell Green, who’s calf injury could be a sort of blessing since he’s one of the worst starting right tackles in the game.
He could be out 2 weeks.
Former Denver Bronco tackle Eric Pears didn’t “wow” anyone after replacing Green late 3rd quarter Sunday.
Till then he’d under performed as Gallery’s replacement at left guard.
He’ll likely be at right tackle come this weeks match up at the New York Giants.
Khalif Barnes who’s never played a regular season snap as a Raider after coming over this off season from the Jags was promptly injured in the pre season.
He was very vocal about wanting to compete for his traditional left tackle spot before suffering an ankle injury.
Truth be told, by the time Barnes is recovered, retrained and ready to go, Gallery and Green should be healthy.
Even with Gallery, the Raiders under performed in the running game.
Bright spot unnoticed, the aforementioned left tackle Mario Henderson looks legit as a blind side protector.
Until a few spots of this Sunday’s game, Russell’s had time. Too much time.
He’s holding the ball a fraction too long.
His rookie receivers are erratic to say the least.
His timing with Bey and Murphy is non existent.
Its going to take repetition.
Painful, painful repetition until it finally clicks.
It looks like Al Davis is willing to wait for it too.
Its been 6 yrs already.
Whats another season?
McFadden is another story.
Granted, the O line is a shambles and right now and the “home run hitter” has received little to no help in springing him.
Have no illusions.
Darren McFadden is a legitimate football talent, but running him behind this line is like driving Ferrari down a dirt road.
Bashing him repeatedly into the line seems to be the epitome of stupidity, especially when you have 250 lb RB Michael Bush, but, it seems there are concerns Bush can’t hold onto the football.
Not really an issue since McFadden couldn’t either.
Combined they have nine fumbles in their young careers.
Name your poison.
Bush would still seem the clear choice as he is almost never tackled for a loss, slyly finding more yardage, slipping tackles and falling forward.
With McFadden, its mostly double digit yards or dropped for a loss.
You can tell by his stats which happens more.
Could it be the lack of contact this off season is part culprit for the Raiders inability to hold the ball?
The logic of not damaging your backs had merit, but the fact is it’s a contact sport and these two look like they need reps running the gauntlet and fighting off tacklers in strip drills.
Why Bush is being used this sparingly is speculation of course. But odds are, we might see Justin Fargas get 3/4 ths of the carries against the Giants this week.
Likely for right around last games average of 2.4 yds.
Oaklands anemic O has been blamed on Coaching, terrible play calling / mis allocation of assets, lack of intelligence on behalf the players running it and plain old sloth.
Likely a combination of all of the above.
This is a very young team with a lot of raw talent and a lot to learn not only about football at this level, but about themselves.
As it stands right now, this is not a team.
It’s a collection.
Until they find the spark that unites them, until they find the anger and pride to no longer tolerate coasting players and constant losses, that exactly what this “team” will get.
Losses.
Until they get a taste for victory and an intolerance of failure, they will continue to fail.
But, odds are, with this much talent assembled in Oakland, odds are, somethings GOT to click right?
Right?!
Only Al Davis, in his dark heart of hearts thinks he knows for sure and like it or lump it, he’s steering the ship.
Is he a mad man? Deluded past recognizing his method is the madness behind Raider debacles or is he smarter than all of us, piecing together an array of young talent that once it gels, will become a formidable game winning force?
Not sure what odds you’ll get on that but one way or another we’ll all find out.
Its just a matter of time…
October 6th, 2009 at 7:37 pm
It would serve us well to get a real MLB as well.
Howard is good,and needs to stay at WS,Morrison is as well but needs to be moved to the Sam,we need a real MLB and just watch our run D flourish
October 6th, 2009 at 7:41 pm
“Not a team, its a COLLECTION”
Priceless…
I’ll bet most of the players on that team couldn’t name half of their roster or even recognize everyone of the 53.
These guys seem like they don’t even talk to each other.
October 6th, 2009 at 7:44 pm
Nnamdi21-
“These guys seem like they don’t even talk to each other.”
no doubt,”team”is an elusive word in the East Bay…
October 6th, 2009 at 7:46 pm
Man! What a drag.
Its easier to hide the fact you slack if no ones calling you out.
Talk about breakin some jaws.
If I’m bustin my azz and some dirt bags shuckin and jivin and coastin by?
Beat down central.
I’d ridicule that fool down the road…
October 6th, 2009 at 7:51 pm
I wish the players who actually care could feel the passion and disappointment of the real fans.
Even more so I wish the hacks that crowd our roster and our staff and front office could do the same and just go F themselves.
Dark days for me right now.
October 6th, 2009 at 7:53 pm
Richardson is like 5th on the depth chart at DE. It’s not like he’s getting many opportunities to produce.
After getting slammed all off-season I’m really pleased with how the d-line has stepped up. Ellis and Seymour are kicking butt and Shaughnessy is definitely going to be a player. Scott looked good for the most part. Richardson is valuable because he’s capable of playing DE or DT. Warren and Kelly are far better than anyone gave them credit for. It was the DEs and LBs that were killing us in run defense last year.
The Giants game has blowout written all over it on the surface. But, if the Raiders play as well as they did vs. San Diego, the Giants overlook them and we catch a few breaks in the turnover battle, it’s still an any given Sunday league. Plus the Giants are a little banged up with Eli Manning and some other players questionable. The Giants have historically played down to their competition, although that hasn’t been nearly as much the case under Coughlin.
The keys will be stopping the run on defense and the o-line giving JaMarcus and the backs something to work with on offense. If we were to somehow pull this one out, it’d probably require a TD from defense or special teams and would be something like 17-14 or even lower scoring. Cable may have to go into Kiffin play calling mode and work the clock from the first snap of the game on to try to keep it close and see if we can somehow steal one.
October 6th, 2009 at 7:56 pm
The National Football Post are reporting that Justin Miller has been cut and that Langston Walker is back for a trial…..
Has anyone read about this elsewhere?
There is nothing on the raiders.com transaction page.
October 6th, 2009 at 8:18 pm
“We’ll chat again next Tuesday after the Raiders stun the Giants.”
Love the optimism Jerry. Keep it up.
October 6th, 2009 at 8:19 pm
Uh…
Chris in NY…
ugh…
The NYG D-line against the Oakland O-line…
it’s gonna be UGLY
October 6th, 2009 at 9:23 pm
That RaiderNationStation guy’s an idiot. Same old deal. We can’t blame Al till “we find out”. Find out what? We’ve sucked for 6 years, and there’s been only one constant all of that time. We found out. The RNS guy is just a shill pretending to be a pragmatist.
November 2nd, 2009 at 2:09 am
coaching wiki…
While searching for coaching wiki I found your article, and it makes me wonder. Are you sure about this? On what bases did you conclude your findings?…