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NFP: Miller cut, L.Walker tries out

No response from the Raiders as yet, but the National Football Post reported the club had cut return specialist/cornerback Justin Miller and had former Raiders tackle Langston Walker in for a tryout.

Miller failed to get outside the 20-yard line on his first three returns against Houston. He replaced Louis Rankin, who was cut and signed to the practice squad of the Seattle Seahawks. Nick Miller, the undrafted free agent who won the job in training camp, is still recovering from a broken bone in his shin.

Walker was a former starting right tackle for the Raiders, but signed a five-year, $25 million deal with the Bills to be their left tackle. He was cut Sept. 8.

The Raiders lost starting right tackle Cornell Green from two to four weeks with a calf injury.

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Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer

  • I hope everyone is ready for Crabtree to start making some plays in 4-5 weeks and the “point and laugh” at the Raiders in the national media to begin.

    I obviously am rooting for Crabs to fail miserably, but him being much better than DHB seems about right to continue the script.

  • Braveheartraider

    Me thinks the negative publicity regarding Crabtree wont end with his signing. Watch this space.

  • El Gato Negro

    This is the only Crabtree I want to talk about:

    http://vaiden.net/crabtree.jpg

  • neilb

    Braveheart…….that was the first game that I saw live.Can’t remember much.Jenson blocking and then scoring is as clear as day though.I think that’s because CH4 never used to show punts !

  • iriebuff

    Agreed, how much better would we be with Eugene Monroe? We would have bookend tackles for the next 5-8 years and RT has been an issue since??? Hindsight is always 20-20 except when you reach in Rd 1 AND 2, you’d better be right.

  • Braveheartraider

    Neilb, Thats right! Channel 4 used to show ‘dodgy’ films late at night and that’s what I was looking for when I discovered the NFL.
    Loved the Raiders ever since but the way things are now I shoulda stuck to porn!

  • raiderrej

    109.. lol

  • neilb

    Braveheart……You couldn’t beat it could you ? A one hour highlight show of games played a week ago with John Smith and Nicky ( I pick Seattle to win the Superbowl ) Horne……Happy days !!

  • Zymurge

    I think that you are all reading this news the wrong way.

    Langston was signed to audition for the KR position. They figure that with no blocking, at least he has a chance of surviving the hits.

    And to shore up the RT position, isn’t it clear? JaMarcus has been fattening up and missing the QB meetings as he’s prepping for a move to RT. He’s already shown us that he’s a better downfield blocker than passer.

  • The Big Banana Says:
    October 7th, 2009 at 9:42 am
    When Barnes became healthy, I don’t understand why Cable didn’t start “training” him on the right side right away?

    If I’m not mistaken, he said it was because it would take too long and that he would have preferred to do it during training camp. Well, now look! You have to do it anyway. And you’ve have lost precious time that could have been used to get him acclimated.
    ______________________________________

    The Buffoon really messed this one up. He decided to dink around with Barnes in training camp playing him at LT when everyone on the planet except him knew Henderson was the starting LT, which resulted in Barnes being in on a play at LT that ended up breaking his leg and ending pretty much all discussion of him playing RT for the majority of this season.

    The Buffoon strikes again. Love him as an o-line coach, but as a HC and talent evaluator he is an idiot. Kwame Harris? Are you serious?

  • The Judge

    The Real MaddenRaider

    Nice Monty Python reference!

  • The Judge

    So, it looks like the spread is 15.5

    Should I lay money on the Giants to cover?

  • Bubermeister

    It’s really bad.
    On a recent trip back from overseas at SFO.

    Imigration Officer: Have you anything to declare?
    Me: Nope
    Imigration Officer: What about your Jersey?

    Imigration Officer to her Collegue: Let him go, Raider fan been through enough.

  • Zymurge

    Judge: is that the over under on total offensive yards allowed by the Giants?

  • Richochet

    angelodebo Says:
    October 7th, 2009 at 8:27 am
    Who wants to make a wager?

    I’ll bet $100.. That if Crabtree plays by the 49ers 8th or 9th game, his statistics will triple that of Heyward-Bey. Triple the catches, triple the yrds, and triple the touchdowns.

    If he plays..I’m not sure what kind of shape he is in or whether Singletary is going to punish him for showing up in October.

    But if he sees the field..I def will make that bet
    =======================
    No one will take that bet, because it’s a sucker bet.

    Yep, Raider Rummies..YOUR WORST NIGHTMARE HAS COME TRUE..the guy MOST of you guaranteed wouldn’t sign, signed.

    And now? After 4 games? With Bey looking like total crap? Already being labeled close to a bust?

    HOW MANY NOW WANT TO RUN THE ‘omg..we can’t have a Crabtree in our locker room…oh lordy me.. he’ll just disrupt the wonderful ambiance we have as a well oiled, jelled team.”

    No one knows how Crab will do.

    But one thing he will do..IS NOT LOOK LIKE TOTAL CRAP, LIKE BEY, lol.

    Now the comparisons begin.

    Wow..lofty heights to attain to do better than Bey.

    2 catches
    36 yards..that’s .5 catches a game, and 9 yds per game average.

    My money is on Crabtree :)

  • neilb

    Rockstar…

    just been over to nfl.com.Nothing.

  • If DHB ends up with a piddly 17 catches for 210 yards, that would mean Crabs would have to have 51 catches for 630 yards to triple it.

    I am all over that bet, just not the TD’s part of it. We don’t score TD’s.

  • RaiderRockstar

    has Langston been officially signed yet?

  • neilb

    I’m out…got to get ready for work.

  • Go Long

    What all of you Dolts who call for Cable or Marshall or anyone to fired do not get is that there have been two people in charge who are solely responsible for what goes on in ALameda. Two People: Al Davis & Amy Trask. It is sad. But why do you really expect ANYTHING to change? Anything! The drafting of Jam Rus has set the team back for 7 years. You want proof? It’s on the field every Sunday. If the last 6 years haven’t shown you anything then you are all blind as Stevie Wonder.

  • RaiderRockstar

    dang. the Jets defense was good in the first 4 games…

    now they get Calvin Pace back from suspension, who had 80 tackles, 7 sacks and 5 forced fumbles last year

    LOOK OUT!

    I got Jerricho Cotchery in one of my fantasy football leagues. I wonder if he’ll have better stats with Braylon Edwards opposite him or worse now that Mark Sanchez has another talented WR option???

  • Look how the 49ers handled their holdout situation. They do the best thing. They win, forcing the holdout’s hand. They don’t let it become a distraction. They don’t lose then look to scapegoat the holdout. They just plan their season as if he’s not even there, and let him decide when he’s ready to sign. As the 49ers started to win, Crabtree no longer had a choice. I’m not a 49er fan, I am a Raider fan. But you have to admire the way that organization handled the Crabtree situation. Key: Not letting it become a distraction, playing good football, forcing his hand. Night and day from the other side of the bay…

  • big chill

    Two words for you The Real MaddenRaider, AL DAVIS…the raider are run by him that’s why every other organization in the league gets through bumps in the road they don’t have al davis running things.

  • big chill

    the only way DHB will be a good receiver is if he played for someone else everyone sucks on the raiders but plays better somewhere else

  • The 49ers don’t let their first round pick holding out become a distraction, yet the Raiders cause distractions just because of who is announcing their games.

    Old man Al is in a free-fall right now. Make it stop someone, please!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Silver-n-Smac

    I’m glad the Raiders didn’t draft Crabnuts.

    Screw Crabnuts.

    I think DHB will be a better receiver in this league and only time can prove that.

    Screw the the media & the rest of the NFL if they want to take shots at us. Easy to take shots 4 weeks into a guys career. It’s absolutely hilarious in today’s “electronic” world, how everyone wants instant gratification.

    15 years ago, absolutely nothing would be expected of a rookie receiver.

    And what J-Russ has done after 24 starts in the NFL would be standard QB growing pains.

    But people are stupid these days. That’s just the way it is our BSPN worls.

    Do you know what Jerry Rice was known for his rookie year? That’s right – dropping balls.

    Have some patience people.

    And let’s wait a year or two before we make any judgment on either Crabnuts or DHB.

  • Silver-n-Smac

    James Jett: UNDRAFTED rookie stats:

    33 receptions, 771 yards, 3 TD’s, 23 yards/reception

    Cracks me up how people always laugh about Al and James Jett.

    The Raiders got more mileage out of James Jett than just about any team has ever gotten out of an UNDRAFTED player.

    And those ROOKIE stats above by an UNDRAFTED FREE AGENT are most likely numbers that Michael Crabnuts wouldn’t have achieved this season even if he hadn’t held out.

    So Richochet, you can love your crabnuts all you want, he hasn’t done anything to receive yours or anyone else’s respect.

  • DirtyBathWater

    MAN CRABTREE WON’T EVEN GET OPEN WHEN HE PLAYS

  • Awful calls this weekend I thought. I didn’t have audio, so I don’t know what the announcers were saying, but it seemed like we were getting screwed.

    That Murphy catch would have moved the chains and helped weather the storm a little. Things went to hell right after that.

  • CJ Legend 34

    I could not agree with you more. We can hate all the teams we want but you have to give credit where credit is due. They are on the right road to change their franchise. They stuck to their guns and now they have spoiled rookie crawling back for a contract after he and his agent saw the teams progress.
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    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    October 7th, 2009 at 10:57 am
    Look how the 49ers handled their holdout situation. They do the best thing. They win, forcing the holdout’s hand. They don’t let it become a distraction. They don’t lose then look to scapegoat the holdout. They just plan their season as if he’s not even there, and let him decide when he’s ready to sign. As the 49ers started to win, Crabtree no longer had a choice. I’m not a 49er fan, I am a Raider fan. But you have to admire the way that organization handled the Crabtree situation. Key: Not letting it become a distraction, playing good football, forcing his hand. Night and day from the other side of the bay…

  • RaiderRockstar

    Michael Crabtree reminds me of Brandon Marshall.

  • RaiderRockstar

    the only way DHB will be a good receiver is if he played for someone else everyone sucks on the raiders but plays better somewhere else

    ***

    Agreed. what would Jerry Rice be with Tim Couch, Ryan Leaf, Todd Marinovich, Akili Smith, Vince Young or JaMarcus Russell throwing to him? a nobody …

    Jerry Rice had Joe Montana, Steve Young, Jeff Garcia (2000) and Rich Gannon. ever wonder why another WR will never touch any of his records? thats why!

  • CJ Legend 34

    I really think the only way DHB can be a good WR in this league is to create enough worth on the Raiders to get traded to another team. Oakland does not develop offensive talent, they destroy it!
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    Silver-n-Smac Says:
    October 7th, 2009 at 11:04 am
    I’m glad the Raiders didn’t draft Crabnuts.

    Screw Crabnuts.

    I think DHB will be a better receiver in this league and only time can prove that.

    Screw the the media & the rest of the NFL if they want to take shots at us. Easy to take shots 4 weeks into a guys career. It’s absolutely hilarious in today’s “electronic” world, how everyone wants instant gratification.

    15 years ago, absolutely nothing would be expected of a rookie receiver.

    And what J-Russ has done after 24 starts in the NFL would be standard QB growing pains.

    But people are stupid these days. That’s just the way it is our BSPN worls.

    Do you know what Jerry Rice was known for his rookie year? That’s right – dropping balls.

    Have some patience people.

    And let’s wait a year or two before we make any judgment on either Crabnuts or DHB.

  • DirtyBathWater

    NAH Crabs is in nooo way like brandon Marshall. Marshall came from a small school that cannot compete with the big schools UCF Marshall has pure speed 4.4 and pure physical attributes 6.4 220, unlike crabnuts who gets his stats boosted, they had him listed at 6’3 that guy is only 6′ and is slow, that’s why he didn’t want to run the 40 cause he would be EXPOSED!!!! Crabtree sucks!!!!!

  • big chill

    you know what screw Goodell for saying the raiders are on his radar due to the cable mess, how about the refs be on his radar for consistenly screwing the raiders and making bad calls

  • Silver-n-Smac

    James Jett: UNDRAFTED rookie stats:

    33 receptions, 771 yards, 3 TD’s, 23 yards/reception

    Cracks me up how people always laugh about Al and James Jett.

    The Raiders got more mileage out of James Jett than just about any team has ever gotten out of an UNDRAFTED player.

    And those ROOKIE stats above by an UNDRAFTED FREE AGENT are most likely numbers that Michael Crabnuts wouldn’t have achieved this season even if he hadn’t held out.

    So Richochet, you can love your crabnuts all you want, he hasn’t done anything to receive yours or anyone else’s respect.

  • Silver-n-Smac

    Yeah, I agree. I like D-Mac a lot and I think he will be great, but, they’re just not using him the right way.

    I know it’s not popular, but, I’m still a huge fan of Fargas. I think he’s all heart and toughness and will get those 3-4 yards consistently behinds even halfway decent blocking.

    And if they don’t want Fargas starting, then give me Bush. D-mac needs to be used as a change of pace.

  • El Gato Negro

    Silver-n-Smac Says:
    October 7th, 2009 at 11:04 am
    And let’s wait a year or two before we make any judgment on either Crabnuts or DHB.

    —————–

    I don’t have any issue waiting to see on DHB…receiver positions take a few years.

    I have a problem with McFumbles, though. 2nd year – too many fumbles, no yards, the grass tackles him….

  • El Gato Negro

    # big chill Says:
    October 7th, 2009 at 11:10 am

    you know what screw Goodell for saying the raiders are on his radar due to the cable mess, how about the refs be on his radar for consistenly screwing the raiders and making bad calls
    ——-

    Link to what Goodell said?

  • Silver-n-Smac

    FYI – Jerry posted a new blog. . .

  • Zymurge

    The biggest difference between Crabtree and DHB is the gap in maturity. The Raiders passed on Crabtree because of this fact. This is a kid that’s been told since high school, if not early, that he is elite and deserves holy treatment. Now he’s a early 20ish fool with more money than he knows what do with before earning a cent of it with effort.

    Compared to DHB, he’s far more likely to be another JaMarcus, with no incentive to work hard and get himself banged up. He’s far more likely to be another Javon Walker, spraying $10K bottles of champagne on people in Vegas and getting in trouble off the field. He’s far more likely to have hit his peak in college due to lack of work ethic to improve and be another Mike Williams. He’s far more likely to pull a Randy Moss and not block on running plays or break hard from the line of scrimmage on pass plays not going his way. And he’s far more likely to end up suspended or benched for “conduct unbecoming of the team” due to his swollen head. He’s far more likely to burn bridges with his teammates and management, wear out his welcome, and find himself shuffled from team to team like T.O.

    DHB has shown that he is humble and motivated to be the best that he can. His game will only improve. Clearly, he’s not where Crabtree was when he left college, but just as clearly he does have a better upside due to his physical attributes and his drive to improve. Only time will tell if he surpasses him.

    This is not to say that Crabtree will be a bust nor that DHB will be a star. It’s just an assessment of what the full set of tangibles and intangibles are and how those could impact the long term value of each of these players. Given this and the state of a team that is in an early rebuilding phase, I’ll take a DHB over Crabtree any day.

  • DKnight007

    Raider O Says:
    October 6th, 2009 at 9:24 pm
    Sign Walker, if Barnes can’t play RT.

    Fire Cable!
    Fire Marshall!
    Fire the WRs coach!

    ^^^^^^^FIRE AL DAVIS and JOHN HERRERA!!

    They might as well sign Walker…he can play RG or RT.

    They need depth badly…

  • los raiders de don rober

    So DHB has 2 catches for 36 yds in 4 games…multiply that by 4, and he gets 8 rec. for 144 for the season…Larry Fitz had 14 rec for 143 yds in the first 3 games of his career, with Josh McCown slinging it…DHB has had enough opportunities. he falls down, looks the other way, drops the ball, or whatever. truth be told he sucks.

  • DKnight007

    vegas raider Says:
    October 7th, 2009 at 9:49 am
    I hope everyone is ready for Crabtree to start making some plays in 4-5 weeks and the “point and laugh” at the Raiders in the national media to begin.

    I obviously am rooting for Crabs to fail miserably, but him being much better than DHB seems about right to continue the script.

    ^^^^^^^Exactly! I was thinkin the same myself….

  • los raiders de don rober

    I dont care about Crabtree. Crabtree being good, or bad does not change the fact that DHB sucks, nothing Randy Moss or Javon or Maclin or whoever does or doesn’t do changes the fact the DHB is a waste of a pick.

  • Zymurge

    Fitzgerald also came into the league next to a 1000 yard WR named Anquin Boldin, on an offense that was already pretty decent. I think it’s fair to say that it was a more favorable situation than DHB’s first games, paired with another rookie WR and handcuffed by a QB that is apparently just now learning the game.

    Either way, it’s not a fair comparison. DHB is a project. More akin to Jerry Porter or Ronald Curry. Of course that does say a lot about being picked way too high, so no arguing with him not being good value. But that’s not the same as a wasted pick. It’s not like he likely would’ve been available with the Raiders 2nd rounder, let alone as a UFA. Still, like the mass majority of Raiders fans, we would’ve prefered to see them move down to later in the 1st to grab him to get more picks and to sign him to a much more cap friendly deal.

  • OFL71

    OH BOY!!!!!!
    Langston Walker!!!!

    Talk about putting a band-aid over a bullet hole….

  • RaiderRobG

    It’s getting to be comical around here. I didn’t think I’d have to abandon my pre-season predictions so early.

    I think I’ll go buy a Bret Favre jersey and enjoy watching some football this year.

    Go Vikings!

  • halster

    RealMaddenRaider, I have to say that I agree about the Crabtree comments.
    For the Raiders to have similar success, it would mean having a rational
    organization that wants to succeed. I too fart in Al Davis’s general direction.
    On a lighter note, where is MistaBrowneye when you need to fart. My suggestion
    is to have everyone chip in 50 cents or so and have the punk dipped in sh-t,
    sent to the baddest hood in Browneye heaven (Cleveland). He could be a hood
    ornament.