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It’s Bush, after all

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, October 8th, 2009 at 4:37 pm in Oakland Raiders.

News, notes and quotes from Thursday’s open locker room session and post-practice press briefing with Tom Cable:

– One day after indicating he probably wouldn’t bother to name a starter at running back in place of Darren McFadden because the workload would be distributed relatively equally, Cable said Michael Bush would start against the New York Giants with Justin Fargas in reserve.

“It’s not really a big deal in terms of how it all goes down,” Cable said. “That’s just where we’re at right now.”

– Napa update _ Cable said he still hasn’t been contacted by authorities in Napa or by commissioner Roger Goodell.

– Cable is 1-3, his franchise quarterback is at the bottom of the passer ratings and having his work ethic questioned, his boss is notoriously impatient, and his running game has gone missing in action.

So how does he like Oakland now?

“This is my team, so this is me,” Cable said. “It’ everything I wanted it to be. Now I just need to win some games.”

– Johnnie Lee Higgins was limited in practice but did almost everything, Cable said. Those who did not practice included Darren McFadden, Robert Gallery, Nick Miller, Cornell Green and Oren O’Neal. O’Neal, Cable said, is doubtful, which would leave Luke Lawton as the lone fullback.

Tight end Zach Miller was limited in practice but “much improved” and should be “full go” Friday, Cable said.

– Safety Mike Mitchell went down after tweaking a knee early in practice, but Cable said he made it through the entire practice an there is now issue. Hiram Eugene, whose absence was noted by punter Shane Lechler as a factor in some of the special teams struggles, practiced but Cable said he wanted to see film before determining if he would be active.

Eugene is recovering from a calf injury and was inactive against Denver and Houston.

– Special teams coordinator John Fassel, who describes himself as “positive” and “happy-go-lucky” underwent a personality transformation Monday in the wake of a disasterous performance by his unit against Houston.

“I kind of came out of my shell a little bit and told ‘em what I thought. Put it that way. (I) won’t elaborate,” Fassel said. “But I also let ‘em know that there’s no blame. It’s just everybody has to do better, and I started with myself. Yeah. Changed the tone and message a little bit. Especially going into New York, cause that’s a big game personally.”

Fassel’s father Jim is the former head coach for the New York Giants. In fact, the last time the Raiders played the Giants at the Meadowlands in 2001, Jim let John hold the red challenge flag.

“It was pouring rain and the Raiders killed the Giants and I remember being on the sideline with my dad because I was coaching in college or something and I said ‘Hey you know what? Bad game but I’ll always remember just being there with my dad,’ ” Fassel said.

Good game for the Raiders, though. They won 28-10.

– Rich Gannon isn’t welcome at the Raiders facility any more, but it sounds as if Shane Lechler wouldn’t mind the occasional visit.

When talking about his role as a leader, Lechler, whose locker was near the quarterbacks, invoked Gannon’s number and spirit.

“I learned from one of the best, number 12, he sat right here, he would call you out in a heartbeat,” Lechler said. “Probably wasn’t the most liked guy in the locker room, but I guarantee you the most respected guy in the locker room. That’s the way people have gotta’ be. ”

– The first coach Sebastian Janikowski played for in the NFL was fond of saying he didn’t like to get too “deep or philosophical.” Janikowski can relate.

He credited his 7-for-7 start to simply getting into a groove earlier than usual.

“It seems like every year I start off slow then I got a streak for like 12, 14 field goals make in a row, then this year feels like I’m starting from the beginning,” Janikowski said.

When asked if there had been any difference in his training or preparation, Janikowski said, “Same thing. Played golf.”

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  1. 4evaRaider Says:

    yo

  2. 4evaRaider Says:

    Gee Willikers…Jim “let” Jon hold the red flag~~~

    LMAO

  3. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    Hope that Bush can produce with some good runs early.

    1.) Keeps Fargas on the bench.

    2.) Keeps the ball out of JaMeatloaf’s right hand.

  4. Lynn from Snot Says:

    I feel better now

  5. Lynn from Snot Says:

    I guess Schilens is out too ?

  6. Raider75 Says:

    Can someone who has any control over the situation (Al Davis) please make this nightmare stop?

    The Raiders now have to go 7-5 over their next 12 games just to get to .500

    My gosh, what a mess.

  7. KoolKell Says:

    Plunketthead Says:
    October 8th, 2009 at 4:27 pm

    Will someone define racist for me?
    I think the PC crap has gone to far.
    It seems you can do nine things right but say something ignorant (most of us say dumb things everyday)

    It seems like racist has become worse then the N word.
    You might as well just throw whitey in jail for telling black man jokes or using the Nword. Thats what it is coming to.
    ————————–
    You know damned what racism is. Particularly when it’s directed at your race. The N-word may not bother you. But I bet the Cracker- Pekerwood word does.

  8. WARaider Says:

    No one is in control of the team. I’m sure that’s how the players feel. Look at the examples they have in Cable smacking coaches or Al controlling too much of the team. Seabass is awesome though. If it wasn’t for our kickers we would really be hurting. What a sad day when your team’s strong point is it’s kickers. But I love my Raiders over any other team. True blue baby!

  9. Terrapin Says:

    Now this gets interesting …who’s lying? Those comments Boomer made sure were incinerating. My money is on JR never got fined but probably missed a meeting ..hell there are a whole lot of meetings. As I remember he missed a day to voluntary camp. But hell, Jeff Garcia missed what – A MONTH!

    Bush starts but Lawton sucks with a scrambled offensive line ….its not looking pretty.

    Good luck Raiders. But with a young team you never know what you are going to get.

  10. WARaider Says:

    good post terrapin
    I wonder where Boomer heard about the “fines”

  11. Raider75 Says:

    Draft Zac Robinson

  12. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    The comments about Russell are disappointing to say the least. Challenge his work ethic…yes…but the intelligence, speech etc…comments smack a racial and regional bias that’s not necessary. Lots of folks in the South, black or white, speak with that twang/drawl. And before we criticize Russell’s speech, remember, all he is is a QB. We had a President that was “butchering” the English language in speaches that had a hell of a lot more importance than a football game for an awful team!

    I stay away from racial jokes. They are not clever and generally you are going to p%ss people off and put yourself in an uncomfortable place.

    There is plenty to criticize without resorting to boorish behavior.

  13. Midwest Fan Says:

    Am I the only one wishing we had Lorenzo Neal right now?

  14. Plunketthead Says:

    Terrapin

    Thats why we can never trust a thing the talking heads say. We know that by now. We just have to be reminded.

  15. Thec07 Says:

    Nation, what is up?????

    Just heard on the radio a team was trying to pick up mike bush but you will never beleive who it was…………the dischargers……

  16. WARaider Says:

    I am glad to see Bush starting. I have been of the opinion from the start that we should pound them with Bush’s big ass and toss in some fresh McFadden to change things up. We used too much of our big play guy and Bush hasn’t seen much work.

  17. Thec07 Says:

    Chargers offer a third for mike bush….

  18. RaiderLen Says:

    SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
    October 8th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
    The comments about Russell are disappointing to say the least. Challenge his work ethic…yes…but the intelligence, speech etc…comments smack a racial and regional bias that’s not necessary. Lots of folks in the South, black or white, speak with that twang/drawl. And before we criticize Russell’s speech, remember, all he is is a QB. We had a President that was “butchering” the English language in speaches that had a hell of a lot more importance than a football game for an awful team!

    I stay away from racial jokes. They are not clever and generally you are going to p%ss people off and put yourself in an uncomfortable place.

    There is plenty to criticize without resorting to boorish behavior.

    ======================================================
    Well said SnB.

  19. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Now back to football:

    I let off a full head of steam and I am now thinking clearer. Gradually increased my consumption of kool-aid to get ready for this weekend. Going to the game!

    I believe the Raiders will win this game. Here’s why.

    1. I think every player, coach and Owner is genuinely embarrassed and disappointed with the 1st 4wks.

    2. Tom Cable is getting back to WHAT HE SHOULD BE DOING and that’s coaching the O-Line. They will play better.

    3. Even a stubborn owner/coach has to see that the game calling wasn’t/isn’t working. Look for the Raiders to get back to running and throwing more “reasonable” passes

    4. Michael Bush will show once again why he is FAR AND AWAY the best Running Back on the team. He won’t tear up the stat sheet…but he will be effective and timely…especially later into the 4th QTR

    5. Raider defense actually match up well with the Giants. Raider corners against youngish receivers….Kelly & Warren properly motivated (ridiculous they needed to be motivated). Bradshaw represents the threat because he’s quick…I think the Raider D-line can take the 260 lbs coming at them.

    I am expecting a revisit of the Tampa Bay strategy. I think the team will be focused this go-round

    They feel the heat from the fan base, through the media and directly from fan reaction.

    They will come up

  20. SR Raider Says:

    Interesting comments this week. My take on it all:

    1. The biggest problem at the moment is the O-Line. It’s good short-term news that Cable is focusing on that, but bad long-term since it indicates we need a new O-Line coach. Cable can’t do both.

    2. Jamarcus is almost certainly a bust. Something like 20 games into his career, and zero games where he truly impressed. Yeah, the team sucks, but so does he.

    3. Jamarcus is less dumb than he is southern. It’s a style thing. Unfortunately for those of us from the achievement-oriented bay area, this style feels like a slacker. Which is OK as long as you’re the best at what you do. JR is not.

    4. Raider fans are probably the most culturally diverse and racially blind group I’ve ever known, and this is something I’ve been proud to be part of over the years. Sometimes people just let stupid comments slip.

    5. Al Davis needs to hire a voodoo doctor to remove the curse. I am NOT kidding. He is the problem. Don’t count on him ever dying since he is already undead.

    6. Michael Bush kicks butt. Too bad the O-Line is in tatters at the moment.

  21. Timmah Says:

    Bush will show why he is one of the best RB’s in the league. Behind his crappy line, he will gain over 150 yds, a pair of TDs. The raiders will unite around their new leader and win 24-21 on a last second Janikowski field goal.

  22. Midwest Fan Says:

    It’s so frustrating when you post and it jumbles around the order of posts. Very difficult to follow along when I have the chance. I don’t post often, and this may be the reason why!

  23. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    SR Raider Says:
    October 8th, 2009 at 5:27 pm

    3. Unfortunately for those of us from the achievement-oriented bay area, this style feels like a slacker.
    =======================================================
    Of course many East Coast New York types and Midwest folks have their stereotypes of Californian’s and vice-versa that are not to flattering.

    That’s why its all B.S. Speech is the worst thing to associate with intelligence. Accent, which is what we are talking about, is all about regions. There is a reason British people talk differently than Irish, differntly than Canadians, differently from Southerners or New Englanders.

    The Raiders just have to get out here and win a damn game. This weekend would be a nice start.

  24. SR Raider Says:

    SnB – I hope you’re right.

  25. Infinite Raider Says:

    We’ve got Bush!!!
    We’ve got Bush!!!

    Too bad Bush will only run for 50 yards in 16 carries. The O-Line will get pummeled. 31-3, Giants.

    If by some miracle the O-Line holds its own. Maybe a respectible loss, 20-10.

  26. Lynn from Snot Says:

    TRAP GAME giants get caught looking

  27. SR Raider Says:

    It’s great to see some optimism in here! Mine ran out weeks ago.

  28. jhill Says:

    Interesting commentary today.

    I’ll just say that all JRuss has to do is start winning some games if he wants to shut people up. Won’t matter how he talks, walks, looks, or wears his hair if he wins games. Other than that, all this comes with the territory.

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  30. SR Raider Says:

    SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
    October 8th, 2009 at 5:32 pm

    “That’s why its all B.S. Speech is the worst thing to associate with intelligence. Accent, which is what we are talking about, is all about regions. There is a reason British people talk differently than Irish, differntly than Canadians, differently from Southerners or New Englanders.”

    Well put.

  31. jhill Says:

    I’m glad to see Cable getting back to work with the line. Cable is clearly learning on the job, but let’s see what he can do. Let’s see if we can get this running game back on track this week!

  32. jhill Says:

    I’m going to tell you guys right now who is going to win or lose this game for us on Sunday …

    Samson Satele!

    If Satele can’t dramatically improve his play from what has caused him to be on the bench so far this season, we are going to be in here next week talking about what a bust Bush, JRuss, and the young receivers are again. If Satele plays well, I think you see us beat the David Carr led NY Giants!

  33. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    JHill,

    I think this team has to respond now. The coaches HAVE to realize they need to make changes to the game plan. I hope that Nnamdi, Ellis, Seymour and Lechler aren’t just coming and punching a clock. They gotta step up and let a guy know.

    I really believe this is the game they COULD put it all together. Play loose…nothing to lose…and finally a running back that has vision AND can break a tackle.

    Give me a little of that Tampa game from last year.

  34. Raider-405 Says:

    Post #13… THAT’S funny

  35. jhill Says:

    SnB,

    Nahhh …

    Putting too much on it. Baby steps my friend!

    We need to get Samson Satele and Khalif Barnes up to speed on that Oline. Then we need to get Gallery back. Once that happens, I think we might be able to start counting on something from this team.

    I think Cable is settling in. I actually like the way he mixed up the playcalling last week, AND the fact that he got back in there with the Oline. The Oline should be the one thing Cable as an Oline guru should be able to hand his hat on.

    I think we are going to be ok. Ok to me is the 6-7 wins I thought we would get. Take care of the Oline in next year’s draft after we go LB with our first 2 picks, and then we might start challenging for the division.

  36. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    JHill,

    Samson Satele…couldn’t we just sweep that under the rug….sigh

  37. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Al Davis is taking the best athlete available. Probably not an O-Lineman. Mario has the left side locked down and I don’t see davis drafting a RT high.

    Sadly…Our best option is free agency. Davis is going to draft a speedy linebacker or safety….Definitely will be Mays or Berry if Huff is cut prior to camp.

    Davis doesn’t value line play. Free agency more likely

  38. buckeyeraider Says:

    Hello Nation,
    SnB, Why would Huff be cut before next years camp? Roster bonus or salary cap reasons? In what has been a dismal start to a season, he has been one of the few bright spots so far. Finally seems to be justifying his draft status, and playing really well at FS.
    By the way, really enjoyed your earlier posts on race, intellect and dialect. Very well said.

  39. Raider75 Says:

    # Raider-405 Says:
    October 8th, 2009 at 5:53 pm

    Post #13… THAT’S funny
    ……….

    Why would drafting Zac Robinson be funny?

    He is accurate, mobile, smart, and can throw the ball, everything the Raiders are missing in a QB.

    Plus, they should be able to draft him in the 2nd or 3rd round and he could either replace Russell or be a quality backup.

    I wouldn’t mind seeing more of Dan LeFevour as well. He might be a quality NFL QB.

    Russell needs to see that this organization is willing to move on if he doesn’t step up.

  40. 504 Raider Says:

    What up Nation?????

    Interesting read:

    http://tfdssports.com/2009-articles/october/what-the-raiders-need-is-more-injuriesseriously.html

  41. buckeyeraider Says:

    I know a lot of fans in here are lashing out in frustration over the way the season has started, the way Russell in particular has struggled, but my god some of the Jamarcus bashing in here is way over the top. 20 career starts is way to early to call somebody a certified bust. The early success of Flacco and Ryan has skewered perspective of what it usually takes for a young QB to develop. I still believe he has the potential to be special. No, not short bus special.I see a lot of a young John Elway in him. Some of the throws he’s able to make. The unbelievable arm strength. No, not stupid shyt like throwing 80 yard from his knees, but being able to stick passes in tight places.

  42. edward teach Says:

    Anybody watching Nebraska/Mizzou? The d-tackle from Nebraska (Suh) is a beast. Big, strong, quick, and just relentless. Quite the player. Haven’t seen him play before, but if he performs like that on a regular basis he’s going to make somebody very happy on Sundays next year.

  43. Raiders4eve Says:

    # SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
    October 8th, 2009 at 5:19 pm

    Now back to football:

    I let off a full head of steam and I am now thinking clearer. Gradually increased my consumption of kool-aid to get ready for this weekend. Going to the game!

    I believe the Raiders will win this game. Here’s why.

    1. I think every player, coach and Owner is genuinely embarrassed and disappointed with the 1st 4wks.

    2. Tom Cable is getting back to WHAT HE SHOULD BE DOING and that’s coaching the O-Line. They will play better.

    3. Even a stubborn owner/coach has to see that the game calling wasn’t/isn’t working. Look for the Raiders to get back to running and throwing more “reasonable” passes

    4. Michael Bush will show once again why he is FAR AND AWAY the best Running Back on the team. He won’t tear up the stat sheet…but he will be effective and timely…especially later into the 4th QTR

    5. Raider defense actually match up well with the Giants. Raider corners against youngish receivers….Kelly & Warren properly motivated (ridiculous they needed to be motivated). Bradshaw represents the threat because he’s quick…I think the Raider D-line can take the 260 lbs coming at them.

    I am expecting a revisit of the Tampa Bay strategy. I think the team will be focused this go-round

    They feel the heat from the fan base, through the media and directly from fan reaction.

    They will come up
    =====================================================
    SnB, first of all you are underestimating the giants, they rotate DL like crazy and would force the raiders to pass, unless JR is able to throw the deep balls accurately and makes the giants pay for over aggressiveness in stacking up the box, I dont see how our running game would be similar to TB game. In the TB game, JR was accurate and threat in passing situations, today JR is the worst QB with young Wrs who cant hold on to the ball.
    My prediction, we only win if David Carr plays in place of Eli since we would also implement the exact game plan and stack up the box and force Carr to beat us. If Eli plays, we are toasted.

  44. edward teach Says:

    Kell… just consider the source. Some people are racist and don’t even know it. Others know it very well, but you’ll grow old trying to change them. Just be glad they don’t have any real impact.

  45. KoolKell Says:

    I hear you Teach.

  46. Plunketthead Says:

    KK
    I said something about it. I said the internet should be about free speech and Jerry will clean up anything he doesnt want. Besides Norco is who he is. He says things like that to stir up control freaks such as yoursef.

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  48. Plunketthead Says:

    Im done I am off the racist bandwagon.

  49. Raider-405 Says:

    Zac Robinson won’t get drafted. He doesn’t have a NFL arm. He will be an UFA like chase Daniel and Graham Harrell.
    Tebow will at least get drafted… Zac won’t

  50. VanHeathen Says:

    It’s about time we started Bush.
    He should have been the #1

  51. 504 Raider Says:

    Whatever is our strongest position by the end of the year, will be what our next 1st round pick will be.

    We should trade all our picks to Goodell in exchange for his Refs calling a fair game next season.

  52. 504 Raider Says:

    The Sporting News got us taking Tebow at #12.

    Dude has holes in his game but he is off the charts in Leadership and Toughness.

  53. edward teach Says:

    “The Sporting News has us taking Tebow at #12.”

    That’s pretty funny.

  54. buckeyeraider Says:

    Ironically, what drives alot of Russells critics crazy right now, may eventually turn out to be one of his biggest strengths. What many perceive as his careless, indifferent, lacksadaisical, don’t give a damn demeanor on the sidelines, may actually be that he is unflappable.Cool as the other side of the pillow.Supremely self-confident.Which may give him the ability to step up to the plate, late in a game, despite how he may have struggled earlier in a game and make the big play.He has already showed the ability to do that in his young career.And not only does that rermind me of Elway, but also Kenny the snake Stabler. Who also had that same laid back southern demeanor.(and questionable study habits).

  55. 504 Raider Says:

    What’s Funny? Tebow or that they got 11 teams worse than us?

  56. Oakglenn Says:

    # SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
    October 8th, 2009 at 5:19 pm

    Now back to football:

    I let off a full head of steam and I am now thinking clearer. Gradually increased my consumption of kool-aid to get ready for this weekend. Going to the game!

    I believe the Raiders will win this game. Here’s why.
    =========================================

    Good for you S&B. Are you actually going to this game??? I gave away four tickets to this game. Good idea, Let’s see if any of us can come away with the reasons the Raiders could win this game:

    1) NY Giants are beat up. Michael Boley has played well for them as a 3 down LB and he is gone. They already have lost a couple of starters in their 2ndary including Kenny Phillips their starting free safety.

    2) Hopefully, we have learned our lessons. We cannot just suit up and expect to win. We have to start fast. I mean we all know this is the dumbest team in America but can these statements be ANY MORE CLEAR RIGHT NOW??

    3) Mike Bush and Justin Fargas are fresh. Bush has had 30 carries all year. Fargas just 12. Brandon Jacobs has the 4th highest workload in the league right now, and Bradshaw has more carries than Bush and Fargas combined.

    4) Turnovers are the number one reason teams lose in the NFL. McFumblor is not playing.

  57. edward teach Says:

    Both.

  58. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    860Todd Christensen Says:
    October 8th, 2009 at 6:53 pm
    Why has everything today been a race issue? This is a football team, talk football! I might be dating myself, and this might be before many people here were even born, but we had a slogan to combat the ugly-ness that is pervading this blog. It was “COLOR HIM BROTHER, COLOR HIM BLOOD”. There was no color, there was a team working to bust the opponent’s heads. Maybe Al isn’t as senile as Punks make him out to be, He has countionuously led this league in the promotion of people of color or otherwise. My hat is off too him, even the now loudmouths he promoted that are now backstabbing him. Their sorry butt’s wouldn’t be in the positions they now hold, if it wasn’t for Al’s forward thinking. After they get the B-slap, they need to remember where their sorry Butts came from!

  59. buckeyeraider Says:

    All that being said, Russell definitely has room for alot of growth. Insert fat joke here. He needs to develop, and utilize a pump fake. He needs to quit staring down receivers ,and learn to manipulate safeties. But, all of those things are coachable.

  60. edward teach Says:

    Just to clarify, 504; I’m not by nature a pessimistic person, but it’s hard to look at the remainder of our schedule and see too many wins. I do think the team will improve as the season goes on, but given that we play the AFC North and the NFC East, it’s going to be tough to translate that into victories.

    As far as Tebow goes, Al makes the decisions, especially on our first pick. Anyone who’s heard him talk about JaMarcus would know that he ain’t giving up on the kid this early. Nor should he, in my opinion.

  61. 504 Raider Says:

    Russell will get better once he realizes he can’t live off of $15 Million dollars. That is his take of that guaranteed money after taxes. He’s probably blowing through money right now because it’s more than he ever had in his life. Once he gets low on cash he’s gonna start working late to try to get some more cash.

    Ultimately it’s just human nature. Russell’s workplace just pays alot better than McDonald’s.

  62. Oakglenn Says:

    # edward teach Says:
    October 8th, 2009 at 7:15 pm

    As far as Tebow goes, Al makes the decisions, especially on our first pick. Anyone who’s heard him talk about JaMarcus would know that he ain’t giving up on the kid this early. Nor should he, in my opinion.
    ==================================================

    Nor should we. Peyton Manning was 5-16 his first 21 starts and threw 28 picks his first year. Russell 6-15 his lst 21 starts and threw 8 pix his lst year starting.
    Troy Aikman was 0-11 his first year starting and 1-14 in his first 15 starts. He threw twice as many pix as TD’s his lst year.
    Even Rich Gannon who most of you love for his work ethic completely barely 50% of his passes his lst year starting which just happened to be his FOURTH YEAR in the league.

  63. Raider75 Says:

    Here is another from scouts.com

    http://cfn.scout.com/2/855299.html

    Here is a highlight…

    2010 NFL Draft Position Rankings

    The Quarterbacks

    Going into the 2009 college football season season, here are the top prospects to watch out for. For now, only FBS/D-I players who’ll be eligible for the 2010 NFL Draft are listed.

    FRANCHISE STARS

    1. Sam Bradford, Oklahoma (Jr.)
    2. Jevan Snead, Ole Miss (Jr.)
    3. Tim Tebow, Florida
    4. Colt McCoy, Texas

    LIKELY STARTERS

    5. Jimmy Clausen, Notre Dame (Jr.)
    6. Dan LeFevour, Central Michigan
    7. Zac Robinson, Oklahoma State
    8. Tim Hiller, Western Michigan

    BEST OF THE REST

    9. Colin Kaepernick, Nevada (Jr.)
    10. Case Keenum, Houston (Jr.)
    11. Jarrett Brown, West Virginia
    12. Rusty Smith, Florida Atlantic
    13. Juice Williams, Illinois
    14. Max Hall, BYU
    15. Tony Pike, Cincinnati
    16. Joe Webb, UAB
    17. Adam Weber, Minnesota (Jr.)
    18. Todd Reesing, Kansas
    19. Tyler Sheehan, Bowling Green
    20. Jake Locker, Washington (Jr.)
    21. Daryll Clark, Penn State
    22. Andy Schmitt, Eastern Michigan
    23. Greg Alexander, Hawaii
    24. Ricky Stanzi, Iowa (Jr.)
    25. Chris Turner, Maryland

  64. Oakglenn Says:

    504 Raider Says:
    October 8th, 2009 at 7:18 pm

    Russell will get better once he realizes he can’t live off of $15 Million dollars.
    ================================================

    Actually you can live off of $5-10mm for quite some time. What most people don’t realize is these guys are UNBELIEVABLY competitive individuals. They have to be to get where they are, and they HATE to lose at ANYTHING! Play one of them at backgammon or ping pong sometime. Hopefully the competitive nature of these guys comes out this week, and Russell particularly starts to shine. But booing them mercilessly when they step onto their home turf is not going to help.

  65. steelyone Says:

    Ok…don’t have to like it. I know I don’t.

    Russell can’t even complete a coherent sentence.
    Much less a pass.
    Have you listend to the guy try to talk?
    He just does not have the goods to figure out the complexities of the NFL…u know it’s true.
    It’s rediculous. You know the players know…ya know?

    Offense is vanilla at best. Easy to figure out for most good D coordinators.

    Coach Cable has done his best, I believe that. I like the guy. But that does not feed the bulldog.

    He not good enough either. He’s a great O line coach, who was willing to put up with AL, and tow the company line.

    Top tier coaches are not coming anywhere near Oakland till Al back his ass up, and leaves the details to his coaching staff. Everyone knows it.

    I’m weary of the battle to defend the Raiders honor.

    Walking away is not an option.

    Perhpas it’s time for AL to do just that.

  66. Plunketthead Says:

    Al will give JR another full year before he throws in the towel. JR may never be a pro bowler but he will improve.

    Al needs to dump the ZBS, and hire Cable two great assistant coaches. Let Cable placate Al, do the hoorah and kick the crap out of anyone who stands in his way.

    Can you say Stuporbowl?

  67. Kirk Says:

    Someone here said Davis doesn’t value line play.

    That in a nutshell is why we suck.

  68. Plunketthead Says:

    Oak
    If you are smart and responsible you can make it last a long time, but the more money you make the more money you have to spend and most 20 something year olds dont have the tools needed to keep from getting fleeced,let alone blowing it..

    Buy yourself a new house, car, vacation, clothes, toy. Do the same for mom and dad, maybe bros and sisters, hanger ons
    Hire a agent, bookkeeper,maid, etc.
    I wont even get into taxes or the partying

    Bottom line It goes real fast and has to be replinished. JR best get good and get good quick.

  69. Nnamdi21 Says:

    This is for the “for those of you who’ve been in a coma for 3 years.” article on Jamarcus Russell.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AgwYn6SGEwfzd8VBQO.4Pp9DubYF?slug=cr-russellstruggles100809&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

    and in the end, so what? he’ll get there when he gets there, but he will get there…

  70. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Tewbow Scmee-Bow.

    Russell’s the man like it or lump it.

  71. Raider Fan in NYC Says:

    I was at that game against the Giants. Night game, rainy, we were dominating and best of all towards the end of the 4th quarter all the Giants fans were gone and there was a sea of black in both endzones and behind the Raiders sideline. All Raiders fans had stayed and moved down, I’ll never forget that I was in High School….wow that was a LONG time ago.

  72. edward teach Says:

    Oakglenn… great point in post #70. He may not let on, but you know Russell hates the way things are going at the moment. He has expressed reticence at being a leader, mainly (in his words) because he doesn’t feel like he’s been around long enough to take charge of guys that have been in the league longer than he has. In a strange way, the past three weeks may be the catalyst he needs to assume that role. I for one would like to see it, and I think his teammates would, too.

  73. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Raiders, its simple.

    JUST SCORE TOUCHDOWNS!!!!

  74. buckeyeraider Says:

    Teach,
    At first glance, our schedule does appear daunting, beginning with this weeks trip to NYG, and a late season visit to Pittsburgh. However it may not be quite as bad as it seems. Washington seems to be imploding. Their coach is already on the hot seat. They have D. Hall callng out teammates for “some of them thinking they’re better than they really are.” How hilarious is that?
    Cleveland is in almost full revolt against their head coach and trading away their best players. God knows what the weather conditions might be like on 12/27.
    Cincinnati seems to be a much improved team, but they never play well on the west coast. I believe something like 1-12 in oak/LA.Who knows if C. Palmers surgically repaired knee/Elbow hold out that long.
    Chargers infighting and losing players to injury faster than we are. not to mention rematch w/KC in Oak.
    They may even catch Dallas right at the start of Romos late season swoon.
    A healthy Gallery , Schillens , and Barnes move to RT, and maybe 7 wins is possible. Not what I was hoping for, but not as gloomy as it seems at the moment.

  75. Plunketthead Says:

    LOL
    I almost forgot about Ryan Leaf
    Just got sentenced for stealing and begging for pain pills on his job at Podunk high school.

    You hear that norco?

  76. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    Hey Brien, how’s it going out west? I have the East covered, will be there Sunday, covering for the troops.

  77. Brien the General 510 Says:

    yes the General graces you minions with his presence

  78. Brien the General 510 Says:

    Norco Bob= real Raider, goes to games but doesnt sugar code things like you most of you poo pushing punks

  79. edward teach Says:

    Buckeye… I will defer to you on the Ohio teams, and actually Cleveland is one of the teams I thought we could beat. Not as confident about the ‘Skins as you are; their defense is tough and unless the o-line improves we’re going to play hell running against them. Chargers? Maybe, but I think they got our best shot already and they tend to get better as the season goes on. I’d love to beat Dallas, but that will be on the defense.

    As I said, I’m trying not to be pessimistic. That’s just how I see it shaking out. I like your scenario better, though, and hopefully things will fall that way.

  80. Brien the General 510 Says:

    860………………….the west is down right now! Especially the easy to the BAY! People are pissed about Russell out here. It just aint the media hating.

  81. gilbert Says:

    Fellas,Im with JRuss and the RAIDERS ,PERIOD,thru 09,and 10,we must allow JRuss the same amount of time as Eli had,Peyton had, Aikman had,etc If you disagree,WHY? This is a young team that can grow,together,I understand the last six years of losing is making many on this blog LASH out,I will stay the course and hope this young team will right the ship,and soon

  82. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    Brien, we’ll get through it, we’ve had some major injuries, we’re young, we will respond, we just need to update our lines with monsters, that is blowing it for us, period!

  83. Richochet Says:

    Oakglenn Says:
    October 8th, 2009 at 7:23 pm
    # edward teach Says:
    October 8th, 2009 at 7:15 pm

    As far as Tebow goes, Al makes the decisions, especially on our first pick. Anyone who’s heard him talk about JaMarcus would know that he ain’t giving up on the kid this early. Nor should he, in my opinion.
    ==================================================

    Nor should we. Peyton Manning was 5-16 his first 21 starts and threw 28 picks his first year. Russell 6-15 his lst 21 starts and threw 8 pix his lst year starting.
    Troy Aikman was 0-11 his first year starting and 1-14 in his first 15 starts. He threw twice as many pix as TD’s his lst year.
    Even Rich Gannon who most of you love for his work ethic completely barely 50% of his passes his lst year starting which just happened to be his FOURTH YEAR in the league.
    ============
    Entertaining watching OakDork try to think, and realize it’s painful for him.
    Goody for you that you rush to google everyone’s numbers. You’re just such a good little boy, Oakey..except for everyone of those few mentioned, they’re 50 total crash and burn flops.
    All 50 of those flops had some nitwit (see YOU) who posted Elways, or Youngs, or Aikman’s etc, stats, as if that made it ok, or gave hope the flop in question would turn out like them.

    The difference is NONE OF THEM SHOWED UP LOOKING LIKE A SWOLLEN SIDE OF BEEF.
    They cared enough to come in ready to play.
    NONE of them missed meetings, and then laughed it off.
    NONE of them had even one coach state “they have to apply themselves more..have to do extra if they want to succeed or be a leader”, much less have TWO SUCCESSIVE COACHES tell everyone that.
    None of those qb’s looked about as emotionless as a stump after throwing a pick, or fumbling, or throwing 35% completions, with a 22 rating.
    And NONE OF THEM EVER had 3 successive games with less than 50% completions.

    Like Gannon said “If I had done that, I would have been benched. Guess things changed in Oakland”.

    Guess Google didn’t tell you to add the above, lol..did it?
    And obviously thinking about it was out of the question.

  84. Richochet Says:

    860Todd Christensen Says:
    October 8th, 2009 at 8:07 pm
    Brien, we’ll get through it, we’ve had some major injuries, we’re young, we will respond, we just need to update our lines with monsters, that is blowing it for us, period!
    ==========
    Oh..that’s it?
    Let’s see..an o line..a d line, couple WR’s, a dback, a RB who’s not all hype and no production..oh..and a qb.

    Yep..close…lol..oh so close.

  85. Richochet Says:

    gilbert Says:
    October 8th, 2009 at 8:06 pm
    Fellas,Im with JRuss and the RAIDERS ,PERIOD,thru 09,and 10,we must allow JRuss the same amount of time as Eli had,Peyton had, Aikman had,etc If you disagree,WHY? This is a young team that can grow,together,I understand the last six years of losing is making many on this blog LASH out,I will stay the course and hope this young team will right the ship,and soon
    ============
    Goody gum drops for you.
    You do JUST that..you hang on JR’s sac until someone tells you otherwise.

    You ignore that he’s a blob, and could care less. That he misses meetings. That he has horrible habits. That he won’t do the extra he’s asked to do.
    Just keep the faith, buddy.

  86. nevadaraider Says:

    “The assistant defensive backs coach must go down, and he must go down hard.”

    I think Hackett becomes the interim coach if necessary.

  87. nevadaraider Says:

    I’ve wanted to believe the Davis and Cable company line for so long – “the talent is here it just needs to be coached.” But how many of our players would clearly be starters on half the teams in the league? ZMiller, Gallery, McFadden? Seymour, Kelly?, Ellis, Howard? Asomugha. Only five definites. To me that is a lack of proven talent.

  88. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    “I learned from one of the best, number 12, he sat right here, he would call you out in a heartbeat,” Lechler said. “Probably wasn’t the most liked guy in the locker room, but I guarantee you the most respected guy in the locker room. That’s the way people have gotta’ be. ”

  89. KoolKell Says:

    Nnamdi #75

    Nice article.

  90. nevadaraider Says:

    How many of our players would even be the best at their position simply within our own division? Realistically…

  91. Oakglenn Says:

    ET, one thing I really respect about Russell is when he makes a big play, he just saunters to the sidelines. Doesn’t jump up and down, doesn’t point fingers at the opposing Dline, he really does keep an even keel, which right now may seem like he doesn’t care or that he’s just dad burned stooopid, but the reality is he is keeping a very even keel which will help him in the long term. You wonder how Mike Singletary’s fire and brimstone approach over there is going to keep going over, especially once things start going sour, which they will.

  92. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    Richochet Says:
    October 8th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
    860Todd Christensen Says:
    October 8th, 2009 at 8:07 pm
    Brien, we’ll get through it, we’ve had some major injuries, we’re young, we will respond, we just need to update our lines with monsters, that is blowing it for us, period!
    ==========
    Oh..that’s it?
    Let’s see..an o line..a d line, couple WR’s, a dback, a RB who’s not all hype and no production..oh..and a qb.

    Yep..close…lol..oh so close.

    Yes Puppy, Racko-Shyte does not know all, he is only a self serving idiot, for all the world to see! This idiot presents himself everyday to be the final word, just an idiot act to close out the day. Racko, no-one in here takes you seriously, stand alone and go back to the Niners, you must of got lost!

  93. Oakglenn Says:

    Rackette, I thought we took care of this last nite. NO ONE READS YOUR NOVELS. Here try this:
    ———————————————-

    Hey Rack-ette. Start your next novel romance something like this:

    It is the brutal winter of 1871. All the choice corn meal is gone. If it wasn’t for Captain Fremont and his fortitude, I would have nothing to live for.

    There you go. Maybe someone would read your garbage.

  94. Richochet Says:

    Oakglenn Says:
    October 8th, 2009 at 8:34 pm
    ET, one thing I really respect about Russell is when he makes a big play, he just saunters to the sidelines. Doesn’t jump up and down, doesn’t point fingers at the opposing Dline, he really does keep an even keel, which right now may seem like he doesn’t care or that he’s just dad burned stooopid, but the reality is he is keeping a very even keel which will help him in the long term. You wonder how Mike Singletary’s fire and brimstone approach over there is going to keep going over, especially once things start going sour, which they will.
    ===============
    You idiot. Parcells mode of coaching WAS IN DEMAND, you fool.
    Singletary is on pretty much every sportscast..FOR A REASON. Because he’s a dynamic coach. Because he holds players accountable. Because he kicks ass when it’s needed, and compliments and motivates when it’s needed.

    See, everyone can see that. Most posters here are aware of that, and wish the Raiders had a coach that wasn’t a token fat blob on the sideline. To a man the players love playing for Singletary. To a man, the raider players could care less about Cable.
    Hell, you moron, every player knows it’s because Cable doesn’t have the balls to bench Russell is why the team is as low as it is.

    And Russell? even keel? and that’s good? DUMBASS..players want a player who’s got a spark to them..that has fire to them..not some blase could care less tool who knows he shouldn’t celebrate is far and few between completions.

    Name me ONE successful qb..JUST ONE..THAT WAS EMOTIONLESS AND BLASE’??
    You won’t, because you can’t. THERE AREN’T ANY.

    You’re just not all that bright, are you Oakdork?

  95. Oakglenn Says:

    # Oakglenn Says:
    October 8th, 2009 at 12:09 am

    Richochet Says:
    October 7th, 2009 at 11:11 pm
    ———————————————-

    # Oakglenn Says:
    October 8th, 2009 at 12:27 am

    Rack-ette what was I thinking?? Here, let’s do this again:

    It was the brutal winter of 1871. All is lost. The choice corn meal is gone. We thought Captain Hill could bring us to the promised land. But after the ancient aborigine some call Favre scalped us, we have no hope other than slow painful death.

    There. Much better.

  96. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    Love it Oak! Classic!

  97. gilbert Says:

    post92,hochet,Do You believe everything you read? And I must confess,of all that post on this blog,you alone I would never refer to as buddy

  98. Richochet Says:

    # Oakglenn Says:
    October 8th, 2009 at 12:27 am

    Rack-ette what was I thinking?? Here, let’s do this again:

    It was the brutal winter of 1871. All is lost. The choice corn meal is gone. We thought Captain Hill could bring us to the promised land. But after the ancient aborigine some call Favre scalped us, we have no hope other than slow painful death.

    There. Much better.
    ===========
    ===================
    You make crap for brains look bright, OakDork.
    Here, because I like laughing at you.
    http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?season=2009&seasonType=REG&d-447263-o=2&conference=null&tabSeq=0&statisticCategory=PASSING&d-447263-p=1&d-447263-s=PASSING_PASSER_RATING&d-447263-n=1

    Hill is 11 as far as qb rating. You know, dumbass, the rating that defines qb’s. rating of 93.

    Russell? YOU KNOW..the qb YOU stated was an OBVIOUS STAR…GOING TO BE A SUPERSTAR??

    Out of 32 qb’s? HE’S 33, lol..rating of 42..damn, dude, Hill has over TWICE his numbers..

    thanks for the setup, moron. Love you trying to smack on a qb who’s easily twice your hero, while the Niners are in first and the raiders are in the gutter..dumbass.

  99. Oakglenn Says:

    Say rack-o-sheeit, your team blows. Your team is 28th in total offense just ahead of the Cleveland Browns. Shaun Hill is such a great offensive leader that your team is ranked 28th in passing just ahead of Kansas Sheiity’s crappy O dude. Your team sux. They are buying into Singletary’s message but guys like that get old fast especially once the team starts losing which will inevitably happen. And BTW, the teams they have beaten are 2-9. The one winning team they played, they lost. Whiners suck dude.

  100. Richochet Says:

    Post 105.
    Are you crying?

  101. Oakglenn Says:

    # Richochet Says:
    October 8th, 2009 at 8:39 pm

    Name me ONE successful qb..JUST ONE..THAT WAS EMOTIONLESS AND BLASE’??
    You won’t, because you can’t. THERE AREN’T ANY.

    You’re just not all that bright, are you Oakdork?
    =================================================

    Name me one that wasn’t even keeled? Ryan Leaf. Aikman, Elway, Fouts, Montana, Young, Peyton, Eli, McNabb, Brady, I think rack-o you just completely proved how much of an imbecile you really are. But, hey, keep beating those .187 winning percentage teams. Be number 28th in passing. It’s all good.

  102. Richochet Says:

    860Todd Christensen Says:
    October 8th, 2009 at 8:40 pm
    Love it Oak! Classic!
    =================
    How sweet.
    I love it when I smack on someone and they feel inept, where they rush to prop even the dumbest comment from someone else..kind of like the ‘Hold my hand, I’ll hold yours” mode of meek posting.

    Tell you what..ToddTodd..considering I just torched his idiot take, and you consider his comment “Love it”..why don’t you..you know..find your balls and help OakDork out.

    He needs it..lol..trust me.

  103. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Richochet, I tried to read one of your novels until I noticed the word “nitwit”. Update your insults to say about, circa 1996, and I’ll start reading your comments again.

  104. Simon Says:

    who cares? same chit different season. seriously. total BS

  105. Oakglenn Says:

    Richochet Says:
    October 8th, 2009 at 8:39 pm

    You idiot. Parcells mode of coaching WAS IN DEMAND, you fool.
    Singletary is on pretty much every sportscast..FOR A REASON. Because he’s a dynamic coach. Because he holds players accountable. Because he kicks ass when it’s needed, and compliments and motivates when it’s needed.
    ==========================================

    Plus you just completely proved my point. Parcells message got old over in Giants land and he was going to take the Atlanta job before that was nixed by the league. But thanks for proving my point. Now, sit fido, roll over, some food spilled on the floor. Lick it up.

  106. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    Racho-chelle, you really need help, you have a problem with EVERYONE on this blog, you really need to go away peacefully, in a straight-jacket, to where you truely belong. I’m sure your true hero AD, will assist you with your problems, look how long he has been assisting Walker. Two Raider Rejects!

  107. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    The last person I saw use the word “nitwit” was Mr. Hand in Fast Times at Ridgemont.

  108. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    And it was outdated then. That was the point of Mr. Hand’s character. That was like 1981.

  109. Stuck in SD Says:

    Why don’t we start Walker? At least give it a shot. I don’t think he could do any worse that what has been accomplished so far with 2 rookies.

  110. raiderzmaverick Says:

    Even keeled or not – it doesn’t matter. What matters is that he can’t make throws. Look over the games the past 2 years. The ONLY passes he makes are to the middle of the field or to running backs. Even the ones to wide receivers are ONLY to the middle of the field. The scoring drive in KC. DHB’s first catch and than the next 2 completions were middle of the field crossing routes. He has some depth problem or something throwing to the outside. The throw on 4th down in week 1 to put us up in the 4th quarter was deep middle. Look for yourself.

  111. Richochet Says:

    Oakglenn Says:
    October 8th, 2009 at 8:57 pm
    # Richochet Says:
    October 8th, 2009 at 8:39 pm

    Name me ONE successful qb..JUST ONE..THAT WAS EMOTIONLESS AND BLASE’??
    You won’t, because you can’t. THERE AREN’T ANY.

    You’re just not all that bright, are you Oakdork?
    =================================================

    Name me one that wasn’t even keeled? Ryan Leaf. Aikman, Elway, Fouts, Montana, Young, Peyton, Eli, McNabb, Brady, I think rack-o you just completely proved how much of an imbecile you really are. But, hey, keep beating those .187 winning percentage teams. Be number 28th in passing. It’s all good.
    ==============
    Oh stop, you dumbass.
    Elway? EVEN KEELED? wtf???
    Montana? YOUNG??? ARE YOU A TOTAL FREAKING IDIOT?
    Brady?

    NOT A SINGLE ONE OF THE ABOVE IS AS YOU SAY, you dumbass.

    Damn dude..that’s the list you came up with? EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM GETS DOWN WHEN THEY AREN’T PLAYING WELL,..every single one motivates those around them..AND EVERY SINGLE ONE IS VERY OUTWARD in their emotions after scoring a td..lol…you moron.

    You don’t know a damn thing about the game, peanut..all you do is rush to google stats..thinking is beyond your realm.
    Obviously.

  112. Richochet Says:

    Oakglenn Says:
    October 8th, 2009 at 9:03 pm
    Richochet Says:
    October 8th, 2009 at 8:39 pm

    You idiot. Parcells mode of coaching WAS IN DEMAND, you fool.
    Singletary is on pretty much every sportscast..FOR A REASON. Because he’s a dynamic coach. Because he holds players accountable. Because he kicks ass when it’s needed, and compliments and motivates when it’s needed.
    ==========================================

    Plus you just completely proved my point. Parcells message got old over in Giants land and he was going to take the Atlanta job before that was nixed by the league. But thanks for proving my point. Now, sit fido, roll over, some food spilled on the floor. Lick it up.
    =========================
    You are so freaking dumb..Parcells RETIRED FROM THE GIANTS because of health, dumbass….AFTER WINNING THE SUPER BOWL.

    And Atlanta? LMAO…geez…he was thinking of going to Atlanta..AS VP OF OPERATIONS..dumbass..not as coach..and HE turned down the offer and went to Miami..

    Nixed by the league? Yes, LMFAO AT YOU, FOOL.

    Can you get ANYTHING RIGHT?

  113. Oakglenn Says:

    # Richochet Says:
    October 8th, 2009 at 8:39 pm

    Name me ONE successful qb..JUST ONE..THAT WAS EMOTIONLESS AND BLASE’??
    You won’t, because you can’t. THERE AREN’T ANY.
    =============================================

    I think they used to call Joe Montana “Joe Cool” because he was emotionless and blase’. They call Matt Ryan in Atlanta Maty Ice because he is cool and detached. I think we call Lil ricky, rack-o-sheeit, because his posts are ridiculous racks of sh**.

  114. 504 Raider Says:

    edward teach Says:
    October 8th, 2009 at 7:44 pm
    Oakglenn… great point in post #70. He may not let on, but you know Russell hates the way things are going at the moment. He has expressed reticence at being a leader, mainly (in his words) because he doesn’t feel like he’s been around long enough to take charge of guys that have been in the league longer than he has. In a strange way, the past three weeks may be the catalyst he needs to assume that role. I for one would like to see it, and I think his teammates would, too.

    ————————————————————————————————————–

    I will see it you guys way when JaMarcus shows up on Gameday without the diamond studs in his ears.

  115. Oakglenn Says:

    you’ve proven once again, you don’t know a thing about the game and now you appear to be melting down rack-o. Take a deep breath. Put the Eddie D Hall of Fame ceremony on and watch the grease ooze off that felon you so lionize.

  116. raiderzmaverick Says:

    But – you’re right. The QBs today that win are good at rallying their troops. Look at what Gannon did for us. Look at Farve or Payton. They show emotion and drive others.

  117. raiderzmaverick Says:

    So, Russel can only makes throws to the middle. Play 2 Tight Ends. Use DHB deep to draw the safety because that’s all he’s good for anyways. Open the middle of the field for him to actually make completions.

  118. Richochet Says:

    Oakglenn Says:
    October 8th, 2009 at 9:15 pm
    # Richochet Says:
    October 8th, 2009 at 8:39 pm

    Name me ONE successful qb..JUST ONE..THAT WAS EMOTIONLESS AND BLASE’??
    You won’t, because you can’t. THERE AREN’T ANY.
    =============================================

    I think they used to call Joe Montana “Joe Cool” because he was emotionless and blase’. They call Matt Ryan in Atlanta Maty Ice because he is cool and detached. I think we call Lil ricky, rack-o-sheeit, because his posts are ridiculous racks of sh**.
    ===================
    LOL…No, crap for brains…Montana was called JOE COOL NOT BECAUSE HE WAS EMOTIONLESS, you moron..IT WAS BECAUSE OF ALL OF HIS 5TH QUARTER COMEBACKS..because when you needed someone to make the big play, he could do it..that last drive..he was in control..AND COOL..

    You don’t watch football, do you?

    NO ONE WHO’S WATCHED FOOTBALL WOULD EVER STATE MONTANA WAS EMOTIONLESS AND BLASE’..you dumbass.

    You just proved to all you don’t know a damn thing about the game..stop, little boy..you’re just looking more and more ignorant each time you try and keep up.

  119. Richochet Says:

    Make that 4th qtr comebacks…DUMBASS.

  120. 504 Raider Says:

    Walker did something or said something to Cable. He’s making alot of guaranteed money to not be playing. Jerry Porter/ Art Shell comes to mind on this one.

  121. raiderzmaverick Says:

    Oakglenn – Richochet is right. Joe Montana, John Elway etc. were “cool”….they didn’t crack under pressure. But I tell you, they were animated and emotional as hell. They weren’t emotionless douchebags like Jamarcus is making himself out to be.

  122. Oakglenn Says:

    Richochet Says:
    October 8th, 2009 at 9:21 pm

    LOL…No, crap for brains…Montana was called JOE COOL NOT BECAUSE HE WAS EMOTIONLESS, you moron..IT WAS BECAUSE OF ALL OF HIS 5TH QUARTER COMEBACKS.
    ========================================

    You don’t even know how many quarters they play do you rack-o-sheeit. You don’t know much about much do you??? Hey, wait, looks like Tom Brady is coming up to bat in the baseball playoffs right rack-o??

  123. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    Maverick, the Raiders have not played Raider football in 6 years, they do not have the personel to play Raider football. When the Raiders went to LA, they thought they were Moviestars, found out LA does not support their football teams, look at the recipts, and thats why AD came back to Oakdale. There is no team that can flourish in LA. We are a down and dirty, make our own rules, Smash Mouth, taking you to the limit Football TEAM. Unfortunately, our lines have taken a serious beating for years, the results show this, and AD has done nothing to correct this. Until AL gets through his haze and admits this costly mistake, we, as fans, will live with these inadequit teams, but JR is not the problem, it starts at the top!

  124. Richochet Says:

    860Todd Christensen Says:
    October 8th, 2009 at 9:06 pm
    Racho-chelle, you really need help, you have a problem with EVERYONE on this blog, you really need to go away peacefully, in a straight-jacket, to where you truely belong. I’m sure your true hero AD, will assist you with your problems, look how long he has been assisting Walker. Two Raider Rejects!
    =================
    awwww…ToddTodd?? You ok, pumpkin?
    I know..me detailing what the raiders actually needed, as compared to your silly sorry kool aid drinking “oh..we’re just fine..we’re doing swell..all we need is a couple of o line and we’re just peachy.” had to sting..

    Oh..and that reply above?
    You don’t pay attention much..my true hero AD? Al Davis? ROFLMFAO..

  125. raiderzmaverick Says:

    Hey – anyone have ANY idea at all why Javon Walker is getting NO playing time but is still on the roster? Why not just cut him? They’re not planning to play him no matter what. Doesn’t make sense to have the wasted roster spot.

  126. Richochet Says:

    Oakglenn Says:
    October 8th, 2009 at 9:24 pm
    Richochet Says:
    October 8th, 2009 at 9:21 pm

    LOL…No, crap for brains…Montana was called JOE COOL NOT BECAUSE HE WAS EMOTIONLESS, you moron..IT WAS BECAUSE OF ALL OF HIS 5TH QUARTER COMEBACKS.
    ========================================

    You don’t even know how many quarters they play do you rack-o-sheeit. You don’t know much about much do you??? Hey, wait, looks like Tom Brady is coming up to bat in the baseball playoffs right rack-o??
    ======================
    What could you say? fool…I hit the 5 instead of the 4..and posted a correction, lol..but ALSO KNEW that I just crapped down your scrawny neck, and that you would have NOTHING in reply.
    Again, don’t try and discuss the game, dumbass. I’ll torch you EVER TIME.
    Care to bet?
    Seriously..look at your weakass meek replies after I torch you..you’re left babbling stupid crap, hoping it covers up the fact you’re an idiot. It doesn’t.

    Oh..and here’s another posters reply, FOOL. Just one more person proving you have your head up your ass.

    raiderzmaverick Says:
    October 8th, 2009 at 9:23 pm
    Oakglenn – Richochet is right. Joe Montana, John Elway etc. were “cool”….they didn’t crack under pressure. But I tell you, they were animated and emotional as hell. They weren’t emotionless douchebags like Jamarcus is making himself out to be.
    ===========================

  127. raiderzmaverick Says:

    # 504 Raider Says:
    October 8th, 2009 at 9:23 pm

    Walker did something or said something to Cable. He’s making alot of guaranteed money to not be playing. Jerry Porter/ Art Shell comes to mind on this one.
    —————————
    It would seem that way….or that there’s TOO much emphasis on a youth movement. Having the best players play and having the young guys who aren’t performing gradually ‘eased’ into the game plan wouldn’t hurt I think…

  128. 504 Raider Says:

    raiderzmaverick Says:
    October 8th, 2009 at 9:26 pm
    Hey – anyone have ANY idea at all why Javon Walker is getting NO playing time but is still on the roster? Why not just cut him? They’re not planning to play him no matter what. Doesn’t make sense to have the wasted roster spot.

    ————————————————————————————————————–

    This POS blog got your answer on Post #128. This damn blod reminds me of Live Crawfish walking.

  129. Oakglenn Says:

    # raiderzmaverick Says:
    October 8th, 2009 at 9:23 pm

    Oakglenn – Richochet is right. Joe Montana, John Elway etc. were “cool”….they didn’t crack under pressure. But I tell you, they were animated and emotional as hell. They weren’t emotionless douchebags like Jamarcus is making himself out to be.
    ==============================================

    maverick, when you think of those players, there are a handful of times that they show emotion, which are the hall mark moments of their careers. For the most part, those guys and most really solid QB’s are calm cool and collected out there. Think Johnny Unitas was dancing around when he threw a TD?? Now, guys like Favre, Rivers, Cun*ler, those are pretty fiery guys that show a lot of emotion. But for the most part, guys like Brady, Peyton, Brees, Warner, Matt Ryan, the cool headed guys are the ones that win.

  130. Oakglenn Says:

    c’mon rack-o I have beaten you down sooooooooooo many times on this site you are clearly brain damaged from the beatings. You even called Joe cool fiery. What more do I need to say?

  131. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    Mav, the youth movement is a good thing, the injury movement is a bad thing. We did not move players up because of merit, we did it because of need. These players are not ready, they do not get the job done, wide open passes do not get dropped. It’s so easy to blame JR, but no-one looks at film. The Idiots in here will tell you this team sucks, but we have a very good team ready to bust out, with both lines getting some attention. You read it here first!

  132. Oakglenn Says:

    The issue with Walker is he had offseason surgery and never told the team. That is something you DO NOT do. Honestly, in preseason and practice he was not getting separation from defenders. Haven’t we all been thru this before, painfully watching older players like Curry and Lelie running routes with straight jackets on?? Yes, the process has been painful, very painful, but Louis Murphy has been a pleasant surprise, and both of DHB’s receptions have gone for lst downs. Plus he had a nice run for another good gain. I say let them develop. Let’s say you put Walker in there, one of three things is going to happen: 1) he does incredibly well 2) He doesn’t 3) he gets hurt. With Walker Chances are we are going to see either 2 or 3 before we see option 1.

  133. raiderzmaverick Says:

    Youth movement is a good thing….but DHB is NOT (I repeat NOT) ready to be a full time starter yet. JLH gets almost no playing time. Walker gets NO playing time. Both would have a hellova lot more than 2 catches if they were playing at all so far and our offense would thus be more effective.

    JLH is a YOUTH MOVEMENT! He’s 2nd year…so why NOT play him??

  134. Mistabrown Says:

    # Oakglenn Says:
    June 5th, 2009 at 12:04 pm

    Alston is a savvy guy. He should play well for us.

  135. priesttj Says:

    Very dumb post #122 504 what the hell does a diamond stud have to do with anything other than you’re own jealousy?

  136. raiderzmaverick Says:

    I’d say we’re only a few players away. If Russel’s last 6 games last year were more a sign of what could be….we’re probably in need of a couple O-Linemen, a GREAT WR and a Run Stuffing Middle Linebacker. Morrison shifts outside. We’d either be good to go, or find out that J’Russel really isn’t up to it….but at that point a middle-of-the-pack quarterback could probably at least put us into the playoff race.
    Other than that….what….? Maybe a BIG DT to replace Warren…..our 2 CBs were pretty good last year….wouldn’t throw C.J away yet….

  137. Mistabrown Says:

    Priest speaking of dumb post do you still believe the league will be shaking in their boots at the Raiders passing game by mid season?

  138. 504 Raider Says:

    Most posters on here are like broads who continue to go on these emotional roller coasters.

    Sunday: The Raiders are scum of the earth. This team has no leadership, the coaching is horrible, and I will never watch again until Al Davis dies.

    Tuesday: Well, if JaMarcus has just a little bit of help he could have passed for 300 yds and 2 TDs.

    Friday: The 16 point underdog will beat the Super Bowl champ Giants.

    Sunday: The Raiders are scum of the earth. This team has no leadership, the coaching is horrible, and I will never watch again until Al Davis dies.

    You get the point.

  139. Raider4Life Says:

    As usual, it is great to read all of your posts. A great many laughs. I love Richochets intensity and wit. The N word is still touchy because it truly does bring back thoughts of horrific behavior and needless hate. Yeah it depends on the tone and the dialogue in which it is thrown down, but still I see no reason for white people to drop it, even if it is meant well amongst black friends. I am white myself, and I have enough love and respect for my peeps who happen to be black to leave it out of my vocab. When I was younger I dropped it often with them in converstation and none of us cared, but as I got older it just bothered me more and more like “do I really want this word around people I care about, out of my own mouth”. Nope.

    Enough of that, on the the upcoming game.

    Again, 25 year bleeder of Silver and Black here…………..but obvious is obvious. If we score a single touchdown Sunday it will be a #$%^ing miracle to say the least. Absolute blowout loss is coming. No way around it. I will suffer through the rest of this embarrassing season and still be raider4life, but I don’t have to like it.

  140. 504 Raider Says:

    priesttj Says:
    October 8th, 2009 at 9:54 pm
    Very dumb post #122 504 what the hell does a diamond stud have to do with anything other than you’re own jealousy?

    ————————————————————————————————————–

    What the hell does wearing one during the game have to do with the game?

    He cares more “right now” about how he looks to the hood than he does to the staff.

  141. Oakglenn Says:

    How are your browns doing mista browns fan?? Have they won a game yet??? I didn’t think so. But at least Favre is washed up like you said. Oh right, wrong about that. But Brady Quinn is looking good. Nope. Wrong there too. At least Jay richardson has been on the inactive list for the lst four games. Nope. He has played in all the games. Do you ever get ANYTHING right mistabrown??? Why don’t you go check on that river on fire there in Cleveland??

  142. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    Mav, the O-line is pathetic, you need to establish a running game to establish a passing game. Period. We have neither. Look at our stats. We try to combat that with a bomb. A straight down the line bomb. The other teams already know this. Duh? Our route patterens are out of QB 101 class. Our O-line does NOT open routes. Our D-line does not pennetrate, oposing QB’s have hours to make passes. Look at the tapes. We have a lot of work to do, but I love this young team, they really have a chance to get er done, and I’m really hopefull for my Silver and Black!

  143. raiderzmaverick Says:

    Okay guyz – see ya. I don’t know which Raiders will show up this weekend. I’m always hopeful they’ll put together a win….but….it’s one of those far away hopes like hoping one day I’ll win the lottery. When I buy the ticket the hope’s there, but I know beforehand that the chances are slim. I hope the day we can put together some consistency faster than my lottery chances…

  144. Raider4Life Says:

    Spot on 860, on all of it. I am hopeful too for the young squad, but also realistic that it will be quite some time (not this season) before they get us excited again.

  145. 504 Raider Says:

    Oakglenn Says:
    October 8th, 2009 at 9:50 pm
    The issue with Walker is he had offseason surgery and never told the team. That is something you DO NOT do. Honestly, in preseason and practice he was not getting separation from defenders. Haven’t we all been thru this before, painfully watching older players like Curry and Lelie running routes with straight jackets on?? Yes, the process has been painful, very painful, but Louis Murphy has been a pleasant surprise, and both of DHB’s receptions have gone for lst downs.
    ————————————————————————————————————–

    Wow Oak!

    After reading the part about DHB’s two receptions going for 1st downs, I jumped so high my head hit the 9′ ceiling here. Then the thumping pain hit me as I landed telling myself that we’re going on Game Fn 5. I’m going to go out and buy me a DHB jersey after our opponents next 2 illegal use of hands penalties.

  146. raiderzmaverick Says:

    Todd – I don’t think the O’Line is pathetic. I think the left side is definitely solid with Gallery in there and Henderson. Don’t know, but I think C.M Was doing horrible at Center. Right side needs the overhaul….that’s why I said 2 O linemen

  147. Mistabrown Says:

    Oakglenn Says:
    June 8th, 2009 at 12:28 pm

    Anyone with half a brain can see that Jamarcus Russell is a bonafide franchise Q.

  148. Mistabrown Says:

    #153

    So I wasnt the ONLY that got a laugh from DHB’s 2 catches!

    LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!

  149. Raider4Life Says:

    Gallery and Henderson play well, but the line as a whole is pathetic.

    I’m just over every squad on our team playing with no fire or pride. It is like watching a high school team sometimes.

    As for Russ, I have faith in him being great but at the rate he is going I don’t see it anytime this year. He is a great player, but he is playing like #$it. Worse than #$it. I would love to see him come out and fix it all next week and be awesome all year long, but there is the old phrase of wishing in one hand and crapping in the other and seeing which is full faster. . . . . Hurry up and play like you can JR. This #$it is getting ridiculous.

  150. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    Mav, was talking today, what we are going with. I will be at Sundays game, real time, and report back. Our O-line has been piss poor for years. Ask Art. This is not the Raider lines of past. We are just patching them. We need a brusing D-nose tackle, We need to blitz, our team has lost it’s charature, it’s poise, and most of all, its SWAGGER. We spent years to earn it, took no time to loose it. I love my Raiders, Time to clean them up!

  151. Raider4Life Says:

    Exactly 860. No swagger. No anger and dominance. No fear imposed. The loss of all those pisses me off to no end.

    JaMarshmallow. Funny. Really funny. Not nice, but funny.

  152. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    Agree, Mista, Al is dreaming 1978 teams. I like our very young team, we have so much to put on the field, but our O-line, D-lines need so much help. I’m not raggin on our guys, but watch the tape. I love my Raiders!

  153. Mistabrown Says:

    Why dont Cable just send DHB down the left side in a straight line since he has all that speed? JaMarshmallow might even get lucky and put the ball over the right shoulder. I havent seen a bomb yet..just stink bombs!

  154. 504 Raider Says:

    Mistabrown Says:
    October 8th, 2009 at 10:19 pm
    #153

    So I wasnt the ONLY that got a laugh from DHB’s 2 catches!

    LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!

    ————————————————————————————————————–

    Great stat if we were in Week 1 with 10 minutes to go in the 1st quarter.

  155. Raider4Life Says:

    If I am dreading the next four games. Each one of them. I am convinced that our offense can’t score 35 points in total across the whole stretch. I pray that they prove me wrong and all wake up, all play with fire and accurately execute, brutally tackle, impose their will. But. . . . . . . .

  156. 504 Raider Says:

    DHB’s production for what he was already paid is like him showing his appreciation by treating you to a chicken box from one of those gas stations.

  157. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    Ptj, Al rules, but our O-line sucks forever. can you explain this?

  158. priesttj Says:

    Guy’s when will you understand they are trying to ge these young guy’s up to speed and they don’t want to retard any of their development with someone they don’t believe will be a major part of this team in the near future. Javon Walker should just collect his check and be ready when and if he is called upn.

    They want to develope this offense round Murphy, DHB, Chaz and DMC and MBush and the TE’s or course. JLH is a special teams ace and the 4th guy inline.

    But it is blatantly obvious who they want on the field.

  159. Mistabrown Says:

    Thanks for clearing that up Priest I had no idea they were going with the youth movement. Actually nobody but you picked up on this. The rookie WR’s were right there in front of me and I didnt put 2 + 2 together!!!!

    Thanks again tj..

  160. Raider4Life Says:

    The only thing that will see us successful in 2010 (in my opinion of course) is if this entire young group gets together and plays casual pick up games all off season so much so that their chemistry, bond, attitude, and skills are as smooth as silk. They have to find their identity, together. On their own. This season is a wash. If they make it to .500 it would be a miracle.

  161. Oakglenn Says:

    mista browns fan can’t ever say anything because it will be wrong. Ask him about global warming. It’s worth the laughs.

  162. Mistabrown Says:

    Priest spends mon-sat of his life trying to convince us what we saw on Sunday didnt really happen.

    He’s like one of those jehovah’s witness that knocks on your door knowing in advance you want to shove those books up his a$$, he still knocks.

  163. priesttj Says:

    Then stop the freakin’ complaining every 5 seconds about the lack of experience and production from a bunch of fresh faced kids in their first rodeo together.

  164. priesttj Says:

    Somebody sound the BIGOT alert, because this room is full of ‘em.

  165. 504 Raider Says:

    Raider4Life Says:
    October 8th, 2009 at 10:34 pm
    The only thing that will see us successful in 2010 (in my opinion of course) is if this entire young group gets together and plays casual pick up games all off season so much so that their chemistry, bond, attitude, and skills are as smooth as silk. They have to find their identity, together. On their own. This season is a wash. If they make it to .500 it would be a miracle.

    ————————————————————————————————————–

    Next offseason JaMarcus will have the skill guys down in Mobile for an Eating Camp.

  166. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    Priest, I love our young guys, I would love to not get them to seeing loses as the team has done for the last 6 years. Our lines suck, we have the best people directing them? I would of been fired long ago to have put that product on the field. Do you have a better solution?

  167. priesttj Says:

    Sista, you wouldn’t know what you saw if it came with diagrams and instructions. You’re hopeless………..period

  168. Mistabrown Says:

    Oakglenn Says:
    October 6th, 2009 at 5:43 pm

    I could go out right now throw on some pads and a hat, and have no problem covering “Jivin.”

  169. Mistabrown Says:

    DHB could still get considerable playing time in 3 wr sets even if Walker played. Playing Watkins and sitting Walker is just utterly retarded but Cable is doing what he’s told and sending a message to the team AL is in charge and playing the best 53 men isnt a priority in Oakland.

  170. Oakglenn Says:

    mista browns fan can’t talk football. Any time you ask him a question he didn’t watch the game. did you mista browns fan??

  171. Mistabrown Says:

    Eli didnt practice again today, if he cant go can we let JaMarshmallow suit up for the BIG blue and take our chances with Gradkowski ???

  172. Oakglenn Says:

    # Mistabrown Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 7:10 pm

    Tazz, just to be fair and honest. I dont think SnB said Im a Browns fan because of my name. I said in Feb/2008 the Browns should pretty good in 2009.
    =========================================

    Why other than mista brown the browns fan would anyone even CARE about the browns on a Raider site. Oh and BTW, the 2009 Browns are 0-4 and the worst team in the conference. But mista brown likes them!! Go Brady Quinn

  173. priesttj Says:

    860Todd, the only thing you can do is get better. Work harder and add talent where needed. The caches cannot save these kids from experiencing the NFL as they are. They have to see if the have what it takes. But that is a painful process for everyone concerned. There are no shortcuts. Thy haveto learn andget better and I believe the will. If you have any pride at all as an athlete you want to WIN. That will come to the forefront. Russell is going to be an outstanding player as time goes on. I happen to know for sure that he has been working very hard to get better, and he is but now we have to win…………period

  174. Oakglenn Says:

    # Mistabrown Says:
    September 28th, 2009 at 9:38 pm

    I said I left my seat with 1:18 to go in the 2nd quarter. I was hoping to be back by kickoff….can U read ?
    =================================================

    mista brown fans answer when asked a very simple question about the game. he couldn’t answer and claimed he spent the game wandering around the stadium buying gear. Presumably browns gear.

  175. Mistabrown Says:

    Priest, you know for a fact Russell is trying to get better?

    Cable said JaMeatloaf is in the 10% that “doesn’t get it”. His words not mine..

  176. manassamauler Says:

    nothing will work until AD puts some more effort into building a physical and talented oline. period

  177. Mistabrown Says:

    Crabmeat will probably double DHB’s production in 1 his first game but at least DHB has 2 catches for a 1st down in 4 games!

  178. Oakglenn Says:

    Also, remember you have backups at now three of the five offensive line positions. That is going to be a problem.

  179. priesttj Says:

    Cable was simply saying he is part of a young group that needs to develope he was also talking about Murphy and DHB as well as DMC.

  180. Mistabrown Says:

    I dont know a better line is going to help JaMarshmallow if he cant execute 7 on 7 drills with no contact. Having said that the rt side & center of the line needs 2 be upgraded since L Kennedy left.

  181. Oakglenn Says:

    Who are the Browns playing this week mista browns fan??

  182. Silver-n-Smac Says:

    Richonuts (Richochet, Rackonuts, Rackosheet)

    It amazes me that a punk like you, who quite possibly is the dumbest fool here, has the nerve to question JaMarcus Russell’s intelligence.

    You really do think you’re clever don’t you?

    Like really clever, huh?

    Like really, really clever?

    Let me tell you something.

    Everyone here is on to your act.

    You’re dumb.

    You think you’re amusing, but, you’re just a lonely, pathetic schmuck.

    Let me ask you something Rachonuts:

    Do you need a friend?

    I really feel for ya man. But there is help out there.

    You can use an air compressor or your own lungs.

    And the best part is, you can name him or her whatever you want.

  183. Mistabrown Says:

    Priest you have no idea what Cable was saying or who other than Black Moses he was talking about.

    Furthermore Cable is doing everything AL tells him too so back the F off your stooge HC!

  184. Silver-n-Smac Says:

    Rachonuts:

    I’m gonna keep asking you this until you answer the damned question:

    Why exactly do you root for the Oakland Raiders?

    What exactly do you like about them?

    Not in 2002-2003 when your orgasmic frenzy came to an end, but, NOW.

    Why are you here? Why do you call yourself a fan of this team?

    If they suck so bad and are so hopeless in your eyes, then why do you continue to follow them and call yourself a fan?

    Come on Rachocrap. . . .

    Get it out man. The truth will set you free.

    You’ve got your head up Sean Hill’s & Michael Crabnuts’ dark caverns. . . . .

    Admit it punk.

  185. Richochet Says:

    Oakglenn Says:
    October 8th, 2009 at 9:39 pm
    # raiderzmaverick Says:
    October 8th, 2009 at 9:23 pm

    Oakglenn – Richochet is right. Joe Montana, John Elway etc. were “cool”….they didn’t crack under pressure. But I tell you, they were animated and emotional as hell. They weren’t emotionless douchebags like Jamarcus is making himself out to be.
    ==============================================

    maverick, when you think of those players, there are a handful of times that they show emotion, which are the hall mark moments of their careers. For the most part, those guys and most really solid QB’s are calm cool and collected out there. Think Johnny Unitas was dancing around when he threw a TD?? Now, guys like Favre, Rivers, Cun*ler, those are pretty fiery guys that show a lot of emotion. But for the most part, guys like Brady, Peyton, Brees, Warner, Matt Ryan, the cool headed guys are the ones that win.
    ==============
    ——————
    No, fool. You’re wrong. Maverick’s point was that YOUR IGNORANT ASS stated BOTH Montana and Elway were blase’.You were wrong..ON BOTCH. That alone makes you a dumbass. He also stated that your point about Russell being “cool” as acceptable was ridiculous.

    I NOTICE YOU AVOIDED BOTH COMMENTS..because as usual you’re a worm, lol…right on cue.

    Bradshaw, Fouts, Dawson, Elway, Unitas, Young, Namath, Stauback, Moon, Tarkenton, Aikman, Montana, etc etc etc…all emotional players..all in the Hall.

    How frickin stupid are you to even mention Russell the Bust with Montana, Elway, or any of those others?
    You’re an idiot..it just comes naturally, right?

    OH..THAT’S RIGHT..you stated a while back that Russell was going to be a great qb…lol..yeah, that idiot was you, wasn’t it?
    How’s that working out for ya, moron?

  186. Oakglenn Says:

    # Mistabrown Says:
    July 30th, 2009 at 10:48 pm

    Our WR is young & needs reps so who would you cut to make room for Toomer ?

    Warkins is an easy cut, who else ?
    ===========================================

    So lst mista browns fan wants our young receivers to get reps. Now he doesn’t. He wants our team to cut Warkins. Who the hell is Warkins??????? Hey mistabrown does Warkins play on the Browns???

  187. Silver-n-Smac Says:

    Anyone who calls our own players names is NO Raider fan.

    Period.

    Every one of you can cross over to the other side of the bay as far as I’m concerned.

    Criticize and analyze all you want – that’s cool.

    But, taking personal attacks and making a mockery of your own team and it’s players is simply PUNK.

  188. priesttj Says:

    Let me say this, a lot hasben sid andwritten about Russell some true and others complete fabrications. There is a segmet of society including the media that would love to see him fail. So the try to put undue pressure on him hoping he’ll crumble under the pressure.

    The Raiders have gone out of their way to shield him from that.The haveconstantly reminded him of what he has to be about. Why these things are being said. No one is blind to what’s going on. And they know who’s behind it.

    But ultimately it’s up to Russell to work hard and improve to prove them all wrong. The Raiders are trying to biuld a team around him that will be here for a while.

    Trust me Russell is developing eventhough it doesn’t always appear to happening, he is getting better. But it takes everyone around him to function properly for Russell to look good. Hopefully when Chaz returns that process will resume.

  189. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    Mista, you are a Bully, jack it, please!

  190. Oakglenn Says:

    S&S rack-o is a Whiner Fan. And a dumb one at that. She’s just pissed that no one reads her romance novels. But they are boring and not well written.

  191. Mistabrown Says:

    jack it ?

  192. Silver-n-Smac Says:

    Rachonuts:

    I know talkin’ about your Whiners really gets you excited.

    I just think you’re in the wrong place for it man.

    At times like this, when you get so excited talking about Montana and the likes, THAT’ when you need to go get that air compressor out of the garage man!

    Go boy, go!

  193. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    Stop the hate, can you do that?

  194. Oakglenn Says:

    Say rack-o I watched more Elway and Montana games than you ever will much closer than you ever will. Now get some cookies and milk in your sippy, put on your Whiner jammies and go to bed. Real men are talking football here.

  195. Richochet Says:

    Oakglenn Says:
    October 8th, 2009 at 9:50 pm
    and both of DHB’s receptions have gone for lst downs.
    ===========================
    WHOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
    Awesome!!

    Boy OakDork, you have a knack of just bringing out those all important, tell all stats, don’t you?

    Let’s see.
    So far 2 catches.
    So far got paid $1,600,000.

    $800,000 per catch.

    OH…and they were….*drum roll*..for FIRST DOWNS.

    Nice simple folk like OakDweeb can engage..isn’t it?

  196. priesttj Says:

    Are you absolutely sure that I don’t know?

  197. Mistabrown Says:

    860 are you talking to me ?

  198. Silver-n-Smac Says:

    # Oakglenn Says:
    October 8th, 2009 at 11:16 pm

    S&S rack-o is a Whiner Fan. And a dumb one at that. She’s just pissed that no one reads her romance novels. But they are boring and not well written.

    ****************************

    No, see – I actually do read some of them.

    And each time, I ask myself if he can continue to sound like more of a jackass as the time before.

    See, what I love about guys like him is they actually believe that they really ARE smarter than everyone else.

    But I love stomping on clowns like him.

    What he doesn’t realize is that he’s never going to fool anyone here with any real semblance of intelligence.

  199. Richochet Says:

    Oakglenn Says:
    October 8th, 2009 at 11:18 pm
    Say rack-o I watched more Elway and Montana games than you ever will much closer than you ever will. Now get some cookies and milk in your sippy, put on your Whiner jammies and go to bed. Real men are talking football here.
    ===========
    BULLS**T..lying ass dog.

    What idiot would state they watched those two play AND state they were EMOTIONLESS AND BLASE’??

    When both were VERY EMOTIONAL PLAYERS???

    Shut up, moron..you just keep looking dimmer and dimmer.

  200. Silver-n-Smac Says:

    Priest:

    Hey man – I hear you from time to time on KNBR (I hate that freakin’ station. I don’t know why I listen every day).

    Anyways, we need to really start goin’ off on Barbieri & Tolbert. They seem to instigate so much of the fabricated BS.

    Do you notice that all of the guests Ralph invites to talk about the Raiders are ones whom he knows will criticize the organization?

    Do you notice he almost never invites Steve Corkran (the one objective beat writer in the Bay Area)?

    Hell, even Jerry M is actually pretty objective most of the time and he’s never a guest.

    Why isn’t John Madden ever a guest?

    Why isn’t Tim Brown ever a guest anymore?

    Why aren’t all the Raiders who DON’T have negative things to say about Al Davis ever invited?

    Freakin’ amazing.

    I’m gonna call him out on that real soon.

    That radio station needs to get crapped on.

    It’s fine to be objective. None of us are stupid. The Raiders have sucked for the past 6 years.

    Well, guess what? While the Raiders have averaged about 4 wins/year over the past 6 years, the Niners have only averaged about 5!!!

    And guess what? We were in a superbowl 7 years ago.

    The last time the Whiners were in one was 14 years ago.

    And do I even begin to list the countless monumental high draft pick BUSTS the Whiners have had in the past 20 years?

    And do you ever hear that crap mentioned on that radio station?

    Hell no.

  201. Oakglenn Says:

    S&S I love guys going nuts criticizing players for their first four games in the league. Shows their level of ignorance. Here is a quote from rack-o’s favorite guy: “It’s going to be a process. It will be a small role at first. It’s going to be a work in progress.” SF Chronicle 10/8/09 funny how Hall of Famers say exactly what I do.

  202. djohnnyg Says:

    “That’s why its all B.S. Speech is the worst thing to associate with intelligence. Accent, which is what we are talking about, is all about regions. There is a reason British people talk differently than Irish, differntly than Canadians, differently from Southerners or New Englanders.”

    Well put.”
    ——————————————————–This is what I hate the most about political correctness. Everybody jumping through hoops so as to appear not to be “racist” or offensive. Look at the Jamarcus’s sentences; they don’t even make sense in ANY language or dialect. Seriously now. I used to live down south and YES , they have accents and kind of their own way of talking, but you can at least you can grasp the meaning of what they try to say. Jamarcus just throws random words together he’s heard after watching highlights and analysis on ESPN or something. He’s dumb. He sucks as a QB. The stats speak for themselves. I don’t care if he’s black, white, or polkadot.

    I think his intelligence is important in the QB position. He doesn’t have it. I don’t have to worry about eating my words because I will never have to when it comes to him. After his failed stint with the Raiders he will disappear and never be seen again in any game that matters; unless you count the CFL, where he MAY get a shot.

    He’s a bust, and the stats prove it.

    Quit blaming the O line. He’s had plenty of time back there. For as slow and fat as he is, he would be getting sacked 8 times a game on average if the o line was as bad as some of you say. It’s HIM, and he stinks.

    Why does anyone stick up for him. Is it BECAUSE he’s black? Jamarcus doesn’t even care himself. He was on the bench laughing when San Diego was marching down the field to score winning TD. If he cared he would have been at least standing and exhorting the D to make a stop. He doesn’t give a crap.

    Now that people are atarting to openly criticize him, he is starting to finally take notice and ACT like he cares.

    Al Davis says he’s a “great playuh”. Pleeeeeeze. That kind of thinking is the reason the Raiders suck so bad and will continue to do so.

  203. Mistabrown Says:

    Djohnny, if you dont want Govt to takeover Health Care you are also a “racist” so this is the world we live in.

    Get used to it! People like Priest and KK throw the race card around meanwhile a young black man(honor student) was beat to death by other young black men in Chicago and theres no outrage from his “bruthas”

    Wait till 2012 what you are seeing in here in regard to Russell is nothing compared to whats coming in 2012!

  204. Oakglenn Says:

    You are starting to melt down again rack-o.

    Frosty the snowman, was a chumpy piece of crap
    with his Whiner shirt and his dumbass takes
    He should run and take a nap

  205. Silver-n-Smac Says:

    # Richochet Says:
    October 8th, 2009 at 11:28 pm

    Silver-n-Smac Says:
    October 8th, 2009 at 11:08 pm
    Anyone who calls our own players names is NO Raider fan.

    Period.

    Every one of you can cross over to the other side of the bay as far as I’m concerned.

    Criticize and analyze all you want – that’s cool.

    But, taking personal attacks and making a mockery of your own team and it’s players is simply PUNK.
    ==========
    LMAO..how old are you?
    “simply punk”??? Who the hell uses punk?

    Either you’re as old as the hills, or a stupid kid.
    No inbetween..which is it?

    Oh..and anyone who watches the garbage the raiders put on the field and DOESN’T call them out is a sniveling lemming.

    Congrats on finding your niche’.

    *********************************************

    Rachonuts:

    I’m old enough to make you crawl back to the dark little dungeon you came from.

  206. Silver-n-Smac Says:

    # Oakglenn Says:
    October 8th, 2009 at 11:30 pm

    rack-o time to go to bed. Put on your little Whiner jammies fresh out of the dryer and go to bed. It’s late, and you don’t make any sense.

    *****************************************

    Are you kidding?

    He just had a bowl of Michael Crabnuts. He’s got all the energy he needs.

    Come on Racko.

    Go get that air compressor already.

  207. Richochet Says:

    Silver-n-Smac Says:
    October 8th, 2009 at 11:08 pm
    Anyone who calls our own players names is NO Raider fan.

    Period.

    Every one of you can cross over to the other side of the bay as far as I’m concerned.

    Criticize and analyze all you want – that’s cool.

    But, taking personal attacks and making a mockery of your own team and it’s players is simply PUNK.
    ==========
    LMAO..how old are you?
    “simply punk”??? Who the hell uses punk?

    Either you’re as old as the hills, or a stupid kid.
    No inbetween..which is it?

    Oh..and anyone who watches the garbage the raiders put on the field and DOESN’T call them out is a sniveling lemming.

    Congrats on finding your niche’.

  208. Oakglenn Says:

    rack-o time to go to bed. Put on your little Whiner jammies fresh out of the dryer and go to bed. It’s late, and you don’t make any sense.

  209. priesttj Says:

    Post #202 Boy! you are actually dumber than you could ever think he is. Don’t know your ass from the hole in the ground that you keep stepping in.

  210. Richochet Says:

    LMFAO…getting a little testy Smac? You should. You got exposed as being an image fan. NOT A FOOTBALL FAN..but an image fan.

    HERE, LOOK AT WHAT YOU STATED AGAIN:

    Silver-n-Smac Says:
    October 7th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
    Obviously, to some of you, the only reason to root for this team is the wins.
    Let me tell you something; There is only one reason the Raiders are different, and unique, and cool, and “us-against-the-world” and that reason is Al Davis.
    For all his greatness, for all his faults (and he has many), he is the single ingredient that makes our team different. And to me, as a fan, that is cool.
    We’ve won with Al and we’ve lost with Davis. But, once he’s gone, all that uniqueness goes away. We become just another NFL franchise, win or lose.
    Is that really that interesting to any of you? If it is, then damn. . . .go root for any of the other 31 teams that may be having success right now.
    ========================================================================================
    This is FOOTBALL, fool. Not a handholding tea party where all that matters is everyone feels warm and fuzzy inside. IT’S WHAT HAVE YOU DONE LATELY..not that silly sorry stupid take of yours about “oh goody, we’re different. I feel special. Al is a maverick AND THAT’S WHY I BECAME A RAIDER FAN.
    That’s asinine dude, and you know it.
    Actually, YOU DON”T.

    YOUR WHOLE ARGUMENT IS THAT YOU THINK ALL RAIDER FANS WHO “just want to WIN” shouldn’t SUPPORT THE RAIDERS..that they should just blindly follow along Lord Al, LIKE YOU DO, and blindly genuflect when he passes by, LIKE YOU DO, and just accept being the laughingstock of the NFL because. IT’S AL.
    Hell dude, you’re all about ‘IMAGE..not winning. Well..I guarantee you that EVERYONE WHO SHOWS UP FOR THE GAMES COULD GIVE A RATSASS ABOUT CODDLING THE OLD MAN.

    Every single fan WANTED TO BEAT THE BRONCO’S ASS.

    Yeah..WIN. Not “lose but it’s cool, because we lost AL’S WAY.”

    We get it. You bought the shirt because of THE IMAGE.
    We get it. Everytime Al sued someone you felt it was Al, AND YOU against the NFL.
    The dumbest thing you said was “the ONLY REASON WE’RE COOL IS BECAUSE OF AL”
    LMFAO..you’re “cool”?? Uh…WHAT??
    Winning is cool. Celebrating is cool. Getting to the playoffs is cool. Looking good on the field is cool. Having players want to play for you is cool. NOT having explayers rip the organization is cool. Making wise choices is cool. NOT BEING LAUGHED AT BY ALL THE OTHER TEAMS IS COOL.

    You’re a lemming. You’re a follower. You do as your told. You do as you think others want YOU TO DO.
    Yeah..I think I hit it on the head when I stated “little girl”

  211. Silver-n-Smac Says:

    Yeah Racko. . . .I read your diatribe.

    Not even sure how to respond to your ineptitude.

    You’re a dumb little boy. You’re damned right the Oakland Raiders are cool.

    Let me see Racko. . . .

    Why did YOU first start watching the Raiders?

    Hmmm. . . .because they were 10-6?

    Because they were 13-3?

    Because they were 9-7?

    Look you moron, most of us in here started watching because we thought there was something cool about either the team, it’s colors, the renegade players, blah, blah, blah.

    And so we continue to hold onto those things from our childhoods.

    Sorry that we’re not all BIG, BAD MEN like RICHOCHET and value nothing except wins!

    Look dumbass – nobody wants and expects the Raiders to win more than me.

    But see fool, I’m not fickle.

    You are.

    You have no conviction about anything.

    If you did, and say the Raiders won the Superbowl this year, you would come in here and praise them with the same conviction that you rip them with.

    And that latter statement is what makes you an absolute PUNK.

    Because you know damned well, that you’re too much of a little puss to come in here and praise anybody or anything.

  212. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Listen, if you want to bish about Russell you HAVE to include the receivers.

    Its Al Davis’s fault for hiring SanJay Lal as wide receivers coach. A guy who has ZERO experience as the head of anything NFL. His name has had “assistant” tagged to it up till this point and yet you draft a receiver 7th overall you KNOW needs polish and turn him over to a rookie coach?

    Compound that by making rookie Louis Murphy a starter too, a receiver who slipped to the 4th round because teams KNEW he needed alot of polish to make the transition the next level.

    Davis’s fix?

    Play em’.

    Nothing beats live fire.

    He’s right, but given the fact 2nd year starter Jamarcus has struggled with the coaching carosel and his technique, then add a blind side tackle making his debut as a starter, throw in the rookie wides and it all adds up to serious growing pains for Oaklands passing game.

    And for fans aching for a winning season.

  213. Oakglenn Says:

    Please mista browns fan, don’t go to politics. You can barely string two thoughts together. And who is Warkins?? Some Browns player from the 30’s??

  214. priesttj Says:

    Silver & Smac, almost did not see your post this board is so crazy. But I agree with everything you say and they wonder why the can’t get any Raider fans to call that station anymore. Why would we?

    All they wan to do is ridicule us, cut us off and editorialize everything we say. Who needs it. Let ‘e keep begging for us to come back. Not until we have fair market share our own side of thing without the host that are there now.

    But Ralph and Tom are Tom and Jerry to me. they are a JOKE!!

  215. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Cheese us Ricochet, up the dosage.

    Shouldn’t you be crafting your manifesto or sumthing?

  216. Oakglenn Says:

    # Nnamdi21 Says:
    October 8th, 2009 at 11:34 pm

    Listen, if you want to bish about Russell you HAVE to include the receivers.

    Its Al Davis’s fault for hiring SanJay Lal as wide receivers coach. A guy who has ZERO experience as the head of anything NFL. His name has had “assistant” tagged to it up till this point and yet you draft a receiver 7th overall you KNOW needs polish and turn him over to a rookie coach?

    Compound that by making rookie Louis Murphy a starter too, a receiver who slipped to the 4th round because teams KNEW he needed alot of polish to make the transition the next level.

    Davis’s fix?

    Play em’.

    Nothing beats live fire.

    He’s right, but given the fact 2nd year starter Jamarcus has struggled with the coaching carosel and his technique, then add a blind side tackle making his debut as a starter, throw in the rookie wides and it all adds up to serious growing pains for Oaklands passing game.

    And for fans aching for a winning season.
    ==================================================
    “It’s going to be a process. It will be a small role at first. It’s going to be a work in progress.” Mike Singletary, SF Chronicle 10/8/09

  217. Mistabrown Says:

    You Barback 0bama zombies sure are quiet these days. I guess 10 straight months when unemployment increased will do that!

    Thank god for that 800 bill stimulus or unemployment could go above 8%……ooops its 9.8% now???

    Hope & change!

  218. Silver-n-Smac Says:

    If anyone has an air compressor to lend Rackonuts for his Ken blow-up man, please send it his way immediately.

    That boy needs some relief.

  219. Nnamdi21 Says:

    I just want to see the offense put in the effort. I think Oakland is stifling their offensive weapons.

    If they’re going to f up, let them do it big dammbit! I like some of the bomb calls but seriously, you’ve got an array of super fast talent and 2 backs that can throw the ball.

    TURN THIS OFFENSE LOOSE!!!!

    What have you got to lose?

    More games?

    Fans?

    Jobs?

    Your going to lose that stuff anyway if you DON’T LET THEM TEAR IT UP!!!

    GET THEE TO THE END ZONE!

  220. Oakglenn Says:

    rack-o is in melt down mode. You gotta watch out. You might read about him in the mornings papers killing his own family if he keeps going.

  221. Silver-n-Smac Says:

    So Rackonuts:

    Have you ever pondered the following thoughts?

    While the Raiders have averaged about 4 wins/year over the past 6 years, the Niners have only averaged about 5 wins/year.

    And guess what? The Raiders were in a superbowl 6 years ago.

    The last time the Whiners were in one was 14 years ago.

    And do I even begin to list the countless monumental high draft pick BUSTS the Whiners have had in the past 20 years?

    I’d be happy to dig’em up for ya.

  222. Mistabrown Says:

    lol @ the lefties, you gotta luv em! Mean spirited, brain dead, sensitive (female trait), hypocrites, liars, sociopaths!

    LMFAO!
    :D

  223. Oakglenn Says:

    Mistabrown Says:
    October 8th, 2009 at 11:39 pm

    You Barback 0bama zombies sure are quiet these days. I guess 10 straight months when unemployment increased will do that!
    ================================================

    Employment is a lagging indicator. Hiring is the very last thing that employers do altho new unemployment claims were down sharply and Obama’s approval numbers are up. You could compare that to Bush’s 20% approval rating at the end of his presidency. Of course mista browns fan was in that 20% cheering for the great job Bush did.

  224. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Yeh, MistaBrown, the economy was just fine when Obama took office.

  225. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Fuh Q Mistabrown nose.

    Fans of the last admin have ZERO room to talk. You’re telling me its Obama that made things the way they are?

    Use the net to look for something other than po-rn you dolt.

    Its all right there.

    Don’t be THAT GUY. The narrow minded, politically blinded, unable to gather info from opposing sides and then quantify who’s argument makes the most sense instead bolstering your own lies with what ever patch work p=ropaganda rhetoric your programmed to spout in response.

    Your on the wrong side if your an American.

    If you were intereted in the truth you’d know that by now…

  226. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    MistaBrown, it’s obvious you’re rooting for Obama to fail. He’s the president of the United States, which means you’re rooting for America to fail. You’re no patriot. You’re just a political extremist.

  227. Mistabrown Says:

    MR, you rooted for Bush to fail. Like I said in #222 (hypocrites).

    FYI…if Barback fails its a positive for the Country. He’s a left wing radical socialist that lied about who he is to get elected…..the end!

  228. Richochet Says:

    Oakglenn Says:
    October 8th, 2009 at 11:42 pm
    rack-o is in melt down mode. You gotta watch out. You might read about him in the mornings papers killing his own family if he keeps going.
    =========================
    Everyone was right.
    When you get slapped down, and your silly comments are torched, you resort to silly little replies, avoiding the posts, hoping no one will notice you got owned.

    Well..maybe you missed them? :)

    Let me help, OakDork..you know..just to laugh at ya..knowing your dumbass can’t conjure anything except wimpy copouts.

  229. Richochet Says:

    Do you feel as stupid as you look, posting the following, OakDork? (No, I don’t expect a reply to it..Gumby’s have no backbone, and I accept that.)
    ———————
    1. Oakglenn Says:
    October 8th, 2009 at 9:15 pm
    # Richochet Says:
    October 8th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
    Name me ONE successful qb..JUST ONE..THAT WAS EMOTIONLESS AND BLASE’??
    You won’t, because you can’t. THERE AREN’T ANY.
    =============================================
    I think they used to call Joe Montana “Joe Cool” because he was emotionless and blase’. They call Matt Ryan in Atlanta Maty Ice because he is cool and detached. I think we call Lil ricky, rack-o-sheeit, because his posts are ridiculous racks of sh**.
    ===================
    LOL…No, crap for brains…Montana was called JOE COOL NOT BECAUSE HE WAS EMOTIONLESS, you moron..IT WAS BECAUSE OF ALL OF HIS 5TH QUARTER COMEBACKS..because when you needed someone to make the big play, he could do it..that last drive..he was in control..AND COOL..
    You don’t watch football, do you?
    NO ONE WHO’S WATCHED FOOTBALL WOULD EVER STATE MONTANA WAS EMOTIONLESS AND BLASE’..you dumbass.
    You just proved to all you don’t know a damn thing about the game..stop, little boy..you’re just looking more and more ignorant each time you try and keep up.

  230. Mistabrown Says:

    G’night lefties, nut jobs, frauds, sociopaths, hypocrites, race card throwers, bigots, and brain deads.

    :D

  231. Richochet Says:

    Silver-n-Smac Says:
    October 8th, 2009 at 11:33 pm
    You’re damned right the Oakland Raiders are cool.
    RICHOCHET: Actually what you stated is you love Al, and you hoped wearing the pirate t shirt would stop you from getting beat up. It didn’t. The girls still slapped you around..while laughing at your silly shirt.
    ————————-

    Let me see Racko. . . .

    Why did YOU first start watching the Raiders?
    Hmmm. . . .because they were 10-6?
    Because they were 13-3?
    Because they were 9-7?

    Look you moron, most of us in here started watching because we thought there was something cool about either the team, it’s colors, the renegade players, blah, blah, blah.
    RICHOCHET: or IN YOUR CASE, AL. Yeah, YOU IDIOT..YOU stated that IF ALL YOU WANT IS WINS, GO SUPPORT ANOTHER TEAM. How can that NOT be asinine? You’re like a little infatuated child who’s staring at Al’s poster every morning, thinking if Al battles someone you’re right beside him..kind of comic book style.
    Kids do that.
    Then they grow up, and grow out of it.
    How you doing with that?
    ————————————————–
    Look dumbass – nobody wants and expects the Raiders to win more than me.
    RICHOCHET: BULLS**T. You already stated YOU DON’T CARE about wins..and that anyone who is here just to win..should leave. That even though Al is costing the team games, EVERYONE SHOULD BE HAPPY ABOUT IT.
    That alone makes you a worm.
    ——————————————

    But see fool, I’m not fickle.
    RICHOCHET: again…BULLS**T. Your whining about everyone should hang on Al’s sac. And that the RAIDERS WON’T EVER BE THE SAME when he’s gone..boo dee damn hoo.
    —————————————

    If you did, and say the Raiders won the Superbowl this year, you would come in here and praise them with the same conviction that you rip them with.

    RICHOCHET: LMAO..would someone explain to Smac? anyone?
    You don’t get it, do you?
    When you figure it out, you’ll feel even dumber than you look..as if that’s possible.
    ———————————-

    Because you know damned well, that you’re too much of a little puss to come in here and praise anybody or anything.

    RICHOCHET: That’s not true. I mean, just the other day I stated I think a blue purse would go nicely with your new dress.
    See? Now don’t you feel foolish?

  232. Moose Says:

    Sitting on the porch,watching the school bully smack my son around the head and not being able to help him,coz hes gotta learn to defend himself…he tries to throw a weak telegraphed over-hand right,and instead he gets 3 hooks and a head-butt…i wince in pain,with of the agony of his defeat…i ask him why he still tries to throw the slow over-hand right,and he replies….`everything we practice,goes out of my head,when the fight starts……

    Things game could get ugly Sunday..

  233. Copenhagen_Fan Says:

    What really makes me laugh is reading a slew of comments from a bunch of ignorant crackers claiming that JaMarcus is dumb, with the use of veiled racial slurs, and they can’t even spell or formulate a gramatically correct sentence.

  234. Copenhagen_Fan Says:

    Another thing I find repugnant and ignorant is the fact that there are so many people on this blog that are not even Raider fans and they spend so much time talking trash and are posting continuously (albeit mostly “copy/paste”).

    Constructive and critical comments are ok, but hate 100% of the time doesn’t make sense to me.

    I too am critical, but to sit here as a non-fan is demonstrative proof of having no life at all!

  235. Copenhagen_Fan Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    October 8th, 2009 at 11:49 pm
    MistaBrown, it’s obvious you’re rooting for Obama to fail. He’s the president of the United States, which means you’re rooting for America to fail. You’re no patriot. You’re just a political extremist.
    ________________

    Brownie roots for the Raiders to fail as well so it makes sense for him. Cut your nose off to spite your face behavior, which is just rooted in deep self hate :-)

  236. DirtyBathWater Says:

    What’s good Copenhagen happy Friday all of the Nation!! Early in the morning I hope david carr starts our chances of beating the giants has increased!!!!

  237. 4evaRaider Says:

    Good Morning NATION!!!

  238. 4evaRaider Says:

    Copenhagen_Fan Says:
    October 9th, 2009 at 4:46 am
    What really makes me laugh is reading a slew of comments from a bunch of ignorant crackers claiming that JaMarcus is dumb, with the use of veiled racial slurs, and they can’t even spell or formulate a gramatically correct sentence.
    ************************************************************

    It’s a BIG selling point 4da BLOG =)

  239. DirtyBathWater Says:

    Mornin 4eva hapry friday brotha! Another day in paradise!

  240. 4evaRaider Says:

    It certainly is DWB!!!

  241. Plunketthead Says:

    Morning 4eva & dirty
    I have come a long ways from

    “GOOD MORNING Rag on Raiders Chat Room!!

  242. Plunketthead Says:

    Jerry had those words banned and they would not post

  243. 4evaRaider Says:

    LOL I mean DBW!!!

    nice session this morning as you can SEE

  244. Plunketthead Says:

    Am I the only one that is excited about the Dodgers and Angels!!

  245. Plunketthead Says:

    Losman looked good in the UFL debut yesterday.

    Maybe the poster who has been pumping him up is right.

  246. Plunketthead Says:

    Raiders 21 pissants 20

    Monday Headline = Raiders Shock The World!!

  247. DirtyBathWater Says:

    For the past few weeks I’ve been screaming about the Jevon Walker debacle, I emaild david white to see what’s the inside scoop, Jerry mac don’t have anything. We need a legitamate reason as to why a healthy Walker isn’t playing AT ALL other than “we want the young guys to grow together” well that’s not working. It makes it more difficult for the young guys to make progress, and then you mean to tell all of us fans that your paying Walker all that money to sit on the bench, but you don’t cut him because you will take a cap hit. Tell me, why should you care? You don’t play the man anyways! We are gonna continue to loose with such irresponsible “Leadership” from these so called coaches, and owner!! What a freaking embarrasment this team is!

  248. hwnrdr Says:

    Good Morning Nation!!!
    No matter what, looking forward to Sunday!!!

  249. hwnrdr Says:

    Hey Plunkethead…you think that the Angels will beat out the Yanks? If that happens, then I’ll be estatic!!!

  250. Copenhagen_Fan Says:

    YEAH, just booked my flight to the Bay Area.

    But no Raider games at home during my stay. Bummer! I’m sure I could have gotten some cheap ones from people jumping off the bandwagon.

  251. DirtyBathWater Says:

    4eva its always a little “cranky” in the morning sessions lol

  252. 4evaRaider Says:

    I’m up 4a good shocking!!!

    On any given Sunday this one would be SWEET

  253. Plunketthead Says:

    I dunno if they will, but they have had the Yankees # for a few years now. Angels are not a one year wonder. They have years of playoff experiance.

    Yes, I think the Angels will win but I dunno if the Dodgers get past the Phils. While everyone was talking about Holaday, the Phils stole Cliff Lee and he has been lights out.

    That should be the deal that sends the phils back to the WS, but you never know.

  254. 4evaRaider Says:

    I remember the ROR Show

  255. DirtyBathWater Says:

    Im down that’s for sure, Russell gotta have a break through game this sunday, I don’t think the giants have a strong secondary. Its the guys up front im worried about. If we get the pass protection we will be fine I hope

  256. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S,JUST HOPE THE GIANT’S WILL BE LOOKING PAST THE RAIDER’S…

  257. vegas raider Says:

    Plunketthead Says:
    October 9th, 2009 at 5:40 am
    Losman looked good in the UFL debut yesterday.

    Maybe the poster who has been pumping him up is right.

    ******************************************

    I was there last night, pay no attention to the 14K attendance they tried to claim, they would be lucky if 5K actually attended.

    He was a little shaky in the first half, got sacked and stripped of the ball twice in a matter of a few plays in the 2nd Q. He did play pretty well down the stretch, throwing some nice 3rd and long completiions.

    Fassell said before the game that he is the most talented QB he has ever coached, with Kerry Collins only having a stronger arm.

    So if JP is this talented, why is he in the UFL? Attitude, plain and simple, I would guess. Thy guy was yelling at teammates all game long yesterday, rarely encouraging it seemed. Maybe that it why, because one would have to guess something is up.

    He is way too talented and in the prime of his career to be playing in this league,

  258. vegas raider Says:

    I have seen this script before folks…….

    The Raiders stun the world and pull off a huge upset in an ugly game, 13-10. They get our hopes up, lure us back in, and than they go out and stink it up at home the following week.

    But until than, Go Raiders on Sunday!!!

  259. hwnrdr Says:

    I hope so, too. Eli still not practicing? Well, I hope JaMarcus is!

  260. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    MAYBE THE RAIDER’S R LOOKING PAST THE NYG TOWARD PHILY ,LOL

  261. hwnrdr Says:

    Phily is just as scary as the Giants, IMO! But hey, Manny Pacquiao will be the guest at that game. It’s Filipino Fiesta week next week!

  262. edward teach Says:

    The JaMarcus saga has taken another hilarious turn. Charles Robinson writes on Yahoo.com that Phil Savage of the Browns feels bad for Jamarcus (whom he’s known for a long time, apparently) because the Raiders drafted him, and that because of that he is destined to fail.

    Phil Savage. Of the Browns.

    How’s the frat boy doing there, Phil?

  263. 4evaRaider Says:

    Man there sure are some FINE Filipino babes,imo

  264. Plunketthead Says:

    Vegas I knew it was you, no coffee yet

    You are on the right track with JP. Sounds like Raider material.

    Have fun folks. I am off to make fishing lures.

  265. hwnrdr Says:

    Yes there are, 4eva. I work with a couple of them.
    Should be an Asian Babe Fiesta next Sunday at the Coliseum!!! (Hey, we have to cheer about something)

  266. vegas raider Says:

    Plunkethead,

    Can’t take the credit for it, I was in here when one guy was really pumping up JP, and I was bringing him down a notch. He tried to make it seem like JP was in the UFL by his choice, to play rather than be a backup in the NFL. I called BS on it.

    The rap on JP coming into the UFL, was that he is kind of cocky and a jerk. Had a party-guy image in college that really didn’t disappear in the NFL. He has been making the rounds here in Vegas (can’t really blame him there).

    But the guy is very talented and proved that he is above the talent level in the UFL.

  267. 4evaRaider Says:

    Love Asian babes!!!

  268. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    VEGAS RAIDER, SOUNDS LIKE PHILLIP RIVERS..

  269. los raiders de don rober Says:

    Here’s an idea. run 90% of the offense through the shotgun. play dhb, jlh, jivin & murphy…make em play with 5 or 6 dbs…our wrs suck big time but, hey, they would be playing against 3rd and 4th string dbs…plus Jamarcus looks better in the shotgun, maybe he’s got a shot at a .50 completion percentage…on D, pray they dont run jacobs more than 20 times cause our D front 7 will be gassed by the 3rd qtr.

  270. vegas raider Says:

    Manny Pacquaio should help drive the Filipino’s to the game. They love that guy!!!!!

    So do I after he won me some good money when he clobbered Hatton. He fights Cotto in a month or so I think, if he wins that it will be setup to fight Floyd. That fight would set every PPV record.

  271. los raiders de don rober Says:

    Why to people look forward to boxing bouts where the undefeated, best pound 4 pound boxer fights someone lighter than him? Floyd is gonna kill any one on his weight class or below. Manni is lighter than Floyd and has no chance.

  272. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Michael Bush to start, Lawton at FB.

    anybody remember Week 17 last year?

  273. vegas raider Says:

    Los Raiders De Don Rober (LRDDR from now on),

    If Manny beats up Cotto, I think he might be a slight favorite over Floyd, or else it will be about a pick ‘em.

    I always wager on Floyd every fight, no matter how big a favorite he is, so that would be great for me. The guy has no never lost, amateur, olympics or as a pro. It is free money!!!!!

  274. hwnrdr Says:

    Oh, that is what I am hoping for, Rockstar!!!

  275. vegas raider Says:

    If they try to throw a pass to Lawton in the flat again this week, especially on a first down, I might light myself on fire. Please just skip that one Mr. Cable.

  276. 4evaRaider Says:

    Lets see week 17…

    Oh yeah thats the day when Carlisle and daMop blew open gaping holes so Bush could run WILD

  277. raidertbone Says:

    Getting ready to head to New York for the game …
    we got a whole bunch of Silver and Black down in one of the corner end zone sections (watch for us on the tube).
    Huge Raider Nation party just across the bridge, in Secuacus. We are gonna shock the world — or, if it gets really ugly, just pound ourselves into the New York night. I make a prediction right here … now … today … keep an eye on that QB at the University of Cincinnati: he’s big (6′5″), has a strong arm, can read defenses well and – are you ready for this one? – he’s ACCURATE. We could easily draft him — oh wait, there’s another really fast receiver out there somewhere who can’t catch – MY BAD!

  278. 4evaRaider Says:

    what da phuck was that???

  279. 4evaRaider Says:

    hello hello

  280. Dakota Says:

    Gooooo Lakers!

  281. 4evaRaider Says:

    Run some errands on this BEAUTIFUL DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  282. Oakglenn Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    October 8th, 2009 at 11:49 pm

    MistaBrown, it’s obvious you’re rooting for Obama to fail.
    =================================================

    He’s also rooting for Jamarcus to fail. Must be what Rush Limbaugh is telling him. After all, African America QB’s like Donovan McNabb aren’t even good enough to play in the NFL.

  283. Oakglenn Says:

    vegas raider Says:
    October 9th, 2009 at 6:20 am

    Plunketthead Says:
    October 9th, 2009 at 5:40 am
    Losman looked good in the UFL debut yesterday.

    Maybe the poster who has been pumping him up is right.

    ******************************************

    So if JP is this talented, why is he in the UFL?
    ============================================

    I can answer that. He is a guy without a brain in his head. JP Losman makes Jim Druckenmiller look like a genius. Jamarcus is an uber genius compared to those guys.

  284. RaiderRockstar Says:

    lets hope Erik Pears is a better RT (his natural position) than LG … he’s been pretty terrible filling in for Robert Gallery

    I think Morris at LG and Satele at C will do fine, even against a monster D-Line like the Giants have!

    Cooper Carlisle seems to run hot & cold. With Tom Cable’s extra attention he’ll fired up and ready for the challenge this week

  285. neilb Says:

    morning all.

  286. DirtyBathWater Says:

    Lol RR that’s funny, can’t wait for the trash to step in!

  287. Canadian Raider Says:

    Heres What I think of Cables play calling. Last week I played a game called QB1 which some of you might know. While your watching the game you get to predict what the offenses from both teams are going to be called. I was able to predict what plays the raiders were going to call 90 percent correct. Now if I can do that, think what the def co-ordinators from other
    teams can do who know a hell of lot more than me. Cable has know clue what plays to call. Onside kick at the beginning of a game and DHB running play were the only creative plays he called. Hire Martz to take over the play calling. Now What to do with Russel, tell him to put on another 50 pounds and put him on the O-line.

  288. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Tbone: you talking about Tony Pike?

  289. RaiderRockstar Says:

    oakglenn: it’s not even 8:30am in Cali right now and you’re already bringing up hot topics like Russell’s intelligence, race & politics?

    sheesh. wait until MaddenRaider, Kell, Mr Brown & Richochet get here, alright?

    the AM crew doesn’t need that trash. thanks

    -Management

  290. los raiders de don rober Says:

    I am just hoping Floyd makes like Roy Jones or Evander and starts looking for competition in heavier classes. This thing where he hooks up fights with smaller fighters is a fluke. Look at his last fight, poor ol Marques is no where near the boxer Floyd is, plus he is smaller, weaker, slower and older. Floyd didn’t even make the weight…the fight was boring as hell, as Floyd toyed with the smaller fighter for 12 rounds.

  291. neilb Says:

    I remember the last time the Raiders played the Giants and the rain.The damned stuff messed up the tv link and us over here missed the last 10 mins.

  292. BadMoodGuy Says:

    Priesttj Says:
    October 8th, 2009 at 11:08 pm
    Let me say this, a lot hasben sid andwritten about Russell some true and others complete fabrications. There is a segmet of society including the media that would love to see him fail. So the try to put undue pressure on him hoping he’ll crumble under the pressure.
    ———————————————-
    There are alot of ‘fans’ in here that are happy that the Raiders aren’t winning many games. They aren’t happy in the “I got a cookie” type of happy, they are happy in the “I’m right everybody is wrong, I know more about football than you” way. They use their lifetime of listening to ESPN and watching games on TV as grounds for thinking they know better than the Owner/Coaches/Players and the fact that the Raiders lost, proves themselves.

    When the Raiders loose, those people have a purpose. They have confirmation that they are worthwhile. They have a job in life of showing how everybody else is wrong. They are the kids on the playground putting people down to boost their own low self esteem.

    It’s just sad, but it is some human’s nature.

    W.R.T. the Raiders, I can see what they are trying and the things that have gone against the team. I hope it works out because I sure like’d my Sunday afternoons 10 years ago better than I like them now but hopefully not as much as I’ll like them in the upcoming years.

    JP is the best player not good enough to be in the NFL.

  293. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Eli still not practicing? Well, I hope JaMarcus is!

    “Here’s an idea. run 90% of the offense through the shotgun.”

    ***

    LOL @ Hwnrdr. nice one man!

    LRDDR: 90 percent of passing plays from the shotgun you mean? 90 percent of the offense would make the already dismal running game non existant. haha

    Even passing plays from the shotgun give the defense a heads up. We’re built to be a run heavy team, that can take advantage of a defense and get some good gains with a play action pass. obviously that isn’t working. I’m not opposed to trying new things. the passing game can’t get much worse!

  294. Dakota Says:

    Lakers Rule!!!!

  295. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Hire Martz to take over the play calling.

    ***

    Canadian: Mike Martz is a really smart guy, but he’s a control freak and he really gets under the skin of pretty much everybody that works above or beneath him. He has a complicated offense that is primarily pass happy. No physical football team wants Martz. Thats why Mike Singletary told him to pack his bags. Steven Jackson of the Rams hated him too, because of how little his role was in the MM offense. McFadden & Bush would probably be unhappy and we certainly don’t have the o-line to be a pass happy team. Not with Carlisle & Green on the right side! Maybe we can give Martz the title of passing game coordinator and demote Tollner to WR’s coach? Sanjay Lal was in way over his head anyways trying to groom everybody at the position besides Javon Walker. Lal can probably stay on as an asst someplace. Randy Hanson’s old job perhaps?

  296. los raiders de don rober Says:

    Hey, the Shotgun idea is just to change things up. We have the NFL’s worst offense running this 2rb 1te 0wr formation. change things up man! people are stacking the damned line with 8-9 people, the only way to win is to adapt, not do as old Al wants all the friggin time.

  297. RaiderRockstar Says:

    JP is the best player not good enough to be in the NFL.

    ***

    BMG: is JaMarcus Russell good enough to be in the NFL?

  298. RaiderRockstar Says:

    LRDDR: I agree. the formations are predictable. we have 2 options that we’ve tried in the first 4 games

    #1 QB, RB, FB, 2 WR, TE

    #2 QB, RB, 3 WR, TE

    thats as creative as i’ve seen. I’d like to see the following on occasion

    #3 QB, RB, RB, WR, 2 TE

    #4 QB, RB, 2 WR, 2 TE

  299. steveandblack Says:

    Jerry says,

    Safety Mike Mitchell went down after tweaking a knee early in practice, but Cable said he made it through the entire practice an there is NOW issue.
    ——————————

    So, is it an issue or not?

  300. RaiderRockstar Says:

    steve: I think Jerry made a typo. Meant to say “no issue”

    i’m guessing of course, because he made it through practice and was not limited

  301. neilb Says:

    Rockstar……I like your 4th option.Might make the D a little more honest.

  302. steveandblack Says:

    steve: I think Jerry made a typo. Meant to say “no issue”

    i’m guessing of course, because he made it through practice and was not limited
    ———————————-

    thanks

  303. raidertbone Says:

    The ISSUE is inspired play … we don’t have it. We had it against San Diego, then it all deflated on that last drive of the game. We have injuries, and our #1 pick has only two catches. To top it all off, our QB hasn’t shown the leadership to step up and take control of this team — no one believes in him (though some SAY that they do) and you can’t have winning football when that happens. We have to play a solid game against the Giants, regardless of whether we win or not — this week, it’s about gaining a little measure of respectability — and REALLY rooting for the Patriots to plant those Rocky Mountain frauds!

  304. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Raiders’ defensive line showing signs of life

    ALAMEDA, Calif. (AP) It was no surprise that Tommy Kelly’s best game in more than two years turned out to be little more than an afterthought.

    Whatever positives the Oakland Raiders have managed to make this season tend to get obscured by the team’s 1-3 record.

    So while Kelly was drawing praise from his teammates and coaches after making a career-high 13 tackles against Houston last Sunday, the 300-pound defensive lineman shrugged his shoulders.

    “I think I probably played all right,” Kelly said. “You always have about three or four real, real good games, when you’re all the way on top of your game. Hopefully I can continue.”

    The problem has been that neither Kelly nor the Raiders have been very consistent this year.

    Prior to his big game against the Texans, Kelly had only seven tackles through Oakland’s first three games and just one quarterback hurry.

    As a defense, the Raiders had been on a steady decline since a solid performance in a Week 1 loss to San Diego and fell into a big hole against the Texans before holding Houston to 47 yards of offense in the second half.

    “It gets frustrating but at the same time, you just have to keep chipping away at it, try to get everybody to execute the way (defensive coordinator John Marshall) wants the defense to look,” Kelly said. “Just execute the defense. Whatever he calls, just execute.”

    It’s that showing in the second half against Houston that Oakland is hoping to build on this week when the Raiders travel to New York to play the unbeaten New York Giants.

    It won’t be easy.

    The Giants are fourth in total offense and sixth in rushing, while the Raiders are 26th defending the run. New York is also the fifth-highest scoring team in the league, averaging 26.8 points a game.

    Much of New York’s offense revolves around quarterback Eli Manning, whose rating of 104.0 is fourth-highest in the NFL. Manning missed his second straight day of practice Thursday due to an injured right heel and is questionable for Sunday’s game.

    Even without Manning, New York has plenty of power on offense with running backs Brandon Jacobs (288 yards) and Ahmad Bradshaw (265 yards) sharing the workload in the backfield.

    “I kind of look at them like I look at San Diego,” Kelly said. “Jacobs is real downhill, real physical, but the back they got behind him, Bradshaw, he kind of reminds me of them San Diego backs. So I kind of look at it as playing against (LaDainian Tomlinson) to tell you the truth.”

    Oakland’s defensive line played well in its season-opening loss to San Diego, which came only two days after the team completed a trade for five-time Pro Bowl lineman Richard Seymour.

    The Raiders followed that up with a decent showing the following week against Kansas City but came unraveled against Denver and had serious problems in the first half against Houston last Sunday before pulling out of the tailspin.

    “They did a nice job,” Oakland coach Tom Cable said. “In a lot of places, that was really good team defense for the most part. (We) want to get better communication … but I liked what I saw and I liked where they’ve gone with it.”

    Cable pointed to the Giants as the perfect example of how a defensive line should play. New York owns the NFL’s top-ranked defense and has allowed only 64 points all season.

    While the Raiders might not reach that level, Kelly believes there’s room for improvement.

    “The more we play together, the better we’ll get to know a player’s tendency, how he rushes, how he plays the run,” Kelly said. “You can’t just throw four players out there and just think everything’s going to be A-1 from the go. By midseason everybody should be hitting their stride real good.”

  305. neilb Says:

    The Giants have the #1 defense and are #1 against the run.

  306. Brien the General 510 Says:

    Only a bunch of turnovers by New York gives us any chance of winning. I just dont see the offense being able to even have two touchdown scoring drives. The defense will be ok i believe but because the offensive output will be putrid at best thier effort can last oh so long.

  307. Lynn from Snot Says:

    Pound Bush and pound Eli : Keys to the game

  308. wishbone Says:

    Brien I too don’t see us having much of a chance Sunday. Giants OLine is solid and will run on us and the DLine is outstanding and will pressure JR all day. If Carr plays & throws 3 picks and JR has a solid day then just maybe. Realistically I would say it’s something like 31-10.

  309. Brien the General 510 Says:

    All you M. Bush for starter advocates will get your wish on Sunday. Let’s see what he will do against a stout run D.

  310. The Big Banana Says:

    # Brien the General 510 Says:
    October 9th, 2009 at 9:53 am

    All you M. Bush for starter advocates will get your wish on Sunday. Let’s see what he will do against a stout run D.
    =================================================
    Hopefully he gets some room to run. I’m in the “start Bush” group but this is a bad-azz D we’re playing up against and the O-line is banged up.

  311. halster Says:

    Hello Raider fans, not you Brownhole or you Craposhet.
    First let me say that the Jruss bashers are forgetting that Terry Bradshaw was initially thought by the experts to be retarded and for those that admire the
    emotional type QB’s, how about Bart Starr or Johnny U for fired up. Punks!
    Stick to what you know, nothing ! As for MissBrownRound, Why do you post on a Raider fan site ? Did the Cleveland Browns site collapse ? Or are you just bored with your meaningless existence ? I am glad that you finally climed out of the BrownEye clubhouse, It just makes my job here that much easier.
    RackOff, you have serious social issues. Are you and BrownRound doin drugs
    or are you just butthole buddies? BrownToast, Cleveland is missing their idiot.
    There ia a bus ticket waiting for you at the station, be on it punk!
    RackOSnot you really need to blog your Pink and Gold reacharounders and leave
    Silver and Black talk to those fans that have something intelligent to say !

  312. neilb Says:

    Wow……okay……..things to do…..later nation.

  313. raidertbone Says:

    Halster:
    I agree with MOST of what you said. Bradshaw, in my opinion, was not a whole lot better than J Russ is right now. But take a look at the offensive line that he had; same thing for Bart Starr, although he was one of the most intelligent QBs of all time. Aaron Rodgers of Green Bay didn’t have any offensive line help, but he almost singlehandedly kept his team in the game last week against a notorious defense – without making a whole lot of mistakes. I truly want Jamarcus to succeed, but at this point I don’t ever think he will become the player that we need to lead us down the road.

  314. Dakota Says:

    Here we go Lakers here we gooooooo!

  315. wishbone Says:

    I believe in TB’s third year they were in the playoffs against us with the Immaculate Disrespection & Bart Starr & Johnny U played a hundred years ago when there wasn’t any TV, commercials, endorsments, Internet, NFL Network, ect. I will give JR until the end of the season. If he continues the same way and does not progress significantly then they need to consider the bust issue. If he turns the corner and has better numbers & games as the season goes on then I think he should be fine. He has been a starting QB since he was a freshman in high school so I expect him to get through this.

  316. Richochet Says:

    Copenhagen_Fan Says:
    October 9th, 2009 at 5:59 am
    YEAH, just booked my flight to the Bay Area.

    But no Raider games at home during my stay. Bummer! I’m sure I could have gotten some cheap ones from people jumping off the bandwagon.
    =======================================
    Actually you could have gotten some cheap ones just walking up to box office, day of game.
    PLENTY OF SEATS AVAILABLE..trust me.

    But hey, why ruin a good trip?
    Family: “How was your trip?”
    Copacabana: “Most was great. I can see why SF is one of the top tourist destinations in the country. So many things to do and see….but…then.. I went across the bridge, and it was like going into a third world country. Watching the Raiders get demolished was something I could have done without.”

    Don’t you feel better knowing you’re going to avoid that letdown?

  317. Brien the General 510 Says:

    Ha please. SF is an open sewer where bums take a shyt on the street in front of people.

  318. Charlie Says:

    Offensive football is the effective blend of running and passing and playcalling.
    EVERYTHING on offense is however predicated on effective blocking by the offensive line.

    A solid Oline has been the cornerstone of all great Raider teams and we are a below average line without Gallery.

    Mr Davis has traditionally built his teams from the outside in starting with elite skill talent and building the lines last.
    It takes longer to win that way but you can get exceptional teams like the Cowboys had in the early 1990’s.

    The building of the lines must be done through the draft. (Seymour in effect was a number one pick in 2011).
    Players like Barnes, Green, Carlisle,Warren,Ellis etc were available at no cost to the Raiders for a reason and they will not take the Raiders to the playoffs.

    We must build the lines through the draft and it must begin next April.

  319. Richochet Says:

    4evaRaider Says:
    October 9th, 2009 at 6:33 am
    Man there sure are some FINE Filipino babes,imo
    ===================
    lol..Uh, not sure about the “fine filipino’s”, because those are the guys, but as far as “fine filipina’s”?
    Couldn’t agree more.

    To the point I married one..and yes, she is maganda (beautiful).

  320. DirtyBathWater Says:

    Its gonna be tough to run against any team that don’t even respect the passing game, so Bush will have his work cut out for him facing 8-9 in the box

  321. halster Says:

    Hey Raiderbone, agreed, but obviously the O-Line is key to any success.
    The problem with Al in the present tense is that he has forgotten that his
    great offensive teams had great O-Lines. Same as any teams of the past.

  322. wishbone Says:

    Hey Richochet do you know anywhere here in the Bay Area where I can get some Lambanog?

  323. Lynn from Snot Says:

    Bush facing 8 in the box . Sounds like a gang bang

  324. Richochet Says:

    How sweet. Halters, on #312 is already reduced to the “I’m a stupid kid. When you’re a stupid kid, and you have NOTHING IN REPLY TO THEIR COMMENTS (I.E. you know I’ll torch your sorryass if you even DARE TO TAKE ON MY COMMENTS) then us stupid kids are immediately reduced to 6th grade level silly gay comments.)

    I’ve NEVER met anyone who ran that idiot whimper who wasn’t either a challenged adult (read: ditch digger, line worker) or just a dopey kid.

    So..which is it? Little boy, or “go to the freezer, and get the box..OH GOODY, I’M HELLLLLPING!!” ? LOL

  325. 4evaRaider Says:

    Richochet…Thank You,of course I meant filipinAs

    I’m just a dumb gringo sometimes =)

  326. 4evaRaider Says:

    4evaRaider Says:
    October 9th, 2009 at 10:18 am
    Richochet…Thank You,of course I meant filipinAs

    I’m just a dumb gringo sometimes =)

  327. Brien the General 510 Says:

    # Richochet Says:
    October 9th, 2009 at 10:11 am

    4evaRaider Says:
    October 9th, 2009 at 6:33 am
    Man there sure are some FINE Filipino babes,imo
    ===================
    lol..Uh, not sure about the “fine filipino’s”, because those are the guys, but as far as “fine filipina’s”?
    Couldn’t agree more.

    To the point I married one..and yes, she is maganda (beautiful).
    ********************************
    Ha they make maganda blowup dolls?

  328. Richochet Says:

    wishbone Says:
    October 9th, 2009 at 10:14 am
    Hey Richochet do you know anywhere here in the Bay Area where I can get some Lambanog?
    =================
    Sure.
    All the lambanog and patis your heart desires at any number of shops in Daly City, which is Little Manila in Ca. Most markets in Daly City have a huge section with filipino food.
    Goldilocks might sell it, depending on which one you go to. (Serramonte, Fremont)

  329. Brien the General 510 Says:

    Dont worry Bichochet, the 49ers will start their losing streak when Atlanta comes to Candlecrap park this week. All you and your little babysitter’s club bend over betty sisterhood 49er fans can wipe each other’s tears with your 49er hanky.

  330. Brien the General 510 Says:

    Bichochet you like going to fired dog markets i see

  331. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Al Davis sucks. Republicans suck. The world would be a better place without both.

  332. wishbone Says:

    Richochet—Is it quality stuff like in the province? Paid $10 for 5 gallons of the stuff over there & it was 90+ proof. Took the paint off the inside of my stomach.

  333. BAG Says:

    Why all the complaining? Did you really think that a team this young, especially on offense was going to be dominant? Just about everyone here wanted the infamous “Youth Movement” so now you got it.

    There’s only one player starting on the O-line that has more than 4 years of experience playing in the NFL. With Green hurt Pears comes in and the O-line becomes even younger with even less experience. We have two rookies starting at WR and most here think an unproven WR with only 2 years of experience is the answer to the passing game? All of C. Schilens production has been in preseason. We have two RB’s both only in their 2nd year and a fullback who also is only in his 2nd year in the NFL. We have a QB that’s in his 3rd year, 1st year as a starter. While most here sit and pretend that every young QB that comes out of college is an instant success except J-Russ, allow me to insert some truth by stating that most, not a few, most young QB’s turn out to be bust or just never live up to expectations. The list of young QB’s that either were just plain busts or didn’t live up to the hype coming out of college is just too vast to list.

    The Raiders have totally embraced a new philosphy of rebuilding and not reloading for seveal years now. This fact is easily proven by reviewing the rosters over the past few years. We have progressively moved from being one of the more veteran teams in the NFL to one of the youngest teams.

    Did you really think the “Youth Movement” was going to be instantly successful? Young teams are not very successful in the NFL. They’re learing how to play the game together as they gain experience together.

  334. wishbone Says:

    BAG that all sounds good, but we will see what Al does. His track record stinks the past 20 years with the exception of Gruden. Changing coaches and systems every year never helps young guys.

  335. Richochet Says:

    Brien the General 510 Says:
    October 9th, 2009 at 10:21 am
    # Richochet Says:
    October 9th, 2009 at 10:11 am

    4evaRaider Says:
    October 9th, 2009 at 6:33 am
    Man there sure are some FINE Filipino babes,imo
    ===================
    lol..Uh, not sure about the “fine filipino’s”, because those are the guys, but as far as “fine filipina’s”?
    Couldn’t agree more.

    To the point I married one..and yes, she is maganda (beautiful).
    ********************************
    Ha they make maganda blowup dolls?
    ===========================

    What do you care? In the dark you aren’t going to care. You saying you keep the light’s on with your doll?
    Kinky.

    But hey, if that’s your thing, I’m sure someone will make one for ya..keep the faith, Dipwang.

  336. Charlie Says:

    BAG

    Well said.

  337. Brien the General 510 Says:

    # Richochet Says:
    October 9th, 2009 at 10:27 am

    Brien the General 510 Says:
    October 9th, 2009 at 10:21 am
    # Richochet Says:
    October 9th, 2009 at 10:11 am

    4evaRaider Says:
    October 9th, 2009 at 6:33 am
    Man there sure are some FINE Filipino babes,imo
    ===================
    lol..Uh, not sure about the “fine filipino’s”, because those are the guys, but as far as “fine filipina’s”?
    Couldn’t agree more.

    To the point I married one..and yes, she is maganda (beautiful).
    ********************************
    Ha they make maganda blowup dolls?
    ===========================

    What do you care? In the dark you aren’t going to care. You saying you keep the light’s on with your doll?
    Kinky.

    But hey, if that’s your thing, I’m sure someone will make one for ya..keep the faith, Dipwang.
    ****************************************

    Super duper yawwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn. I dig being in the company of a real live woman unlike you 49er sissies. My wang gets dipped into bz’s constantly. Too bad the rape by your uncle has killed any chance of you mating with an actual woman. Because of this tragic event it has led you down the road of an overdosage of a all male porn and coming on a raider blog to talk trash to a bunch of heterosexual men.

  338. Brien the General 510 Says:

    MR, white power!

  339. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    BAG, the reason we’re as bad as we are has very little to do with youth. Stop spinning.

  340. DirtyBathWater Says:

    Youth…….gimme a break

  341. Richochet Says:

    wishbone Says:
    October 9th, 2009 at 10:24 am
    Richochet—Is it quality stuff like in the province? Paid $10 for 5 gallons of the stuff over there & it was 90+ proof. Took the paint off the inside of my stomach.
    ==================
    LOL..would that be a bad case of tuba, or a good one?

    Either way, save the address of that putahan for your next party.

  342. raidertbone Says:

    Okay, why is it then that almost every Raider fan I’ve talked to was yelling at the TV for the Raiders to go O-Line or D-line with the first round draft pick? You can be young and still build a solid nucleus for the future; we haven’t done that! We could’ve had both Eugene Monroe AND Ron Brace — instead, we end up with Worthless-Bey and a second-rounder who we could’ve easily gotten instead of Stryker Sulak. THE, we could’ve been talking both youth AND quality!

  343. raidertbone Says:

    I’m afraid we’re going to try and draft Tebow and insert him in as QB. All the experts say, great college player — great COLLEGE player. We have one of those now at QB – he wears #2. He was a great COLLEGE player; he is not a pro quarterback; then again, neither is J.P. Losman.

  344. Brien the General 510 Says:

    “As far as decision-making, I really haven’t made any bad decisions,” Russell said told Cable called his game Sunday at Houston his best effort of the season. “I know where to go with the ball. It’s just a matter of executing and wanting to get there.
    *******************************

    LOL we will call this the KoolKell special

  345. BAG Says:

    MR,
    I know in these tough political times it’s difficult to determine the difference, but allow me to help you.
    The truth is we are a young team with a very extremely young offense. Truth not spin.

  346. Brien the General 510 Says:

    oh please stop with the excuses. The organization is a mess period. Young or old this franchise has many problems. Al Davis keeps picking losers to start on this team, especially Jamarcus Russell. The guy is the ultimate scholarship player and is a symbol for what is wrong with the Raider franchise

  347. Brien the General 510 Says:

    BAG, sure we are young but we have a loser who is suppose to be the team leader. That is a recipe for disaster

  348. Richochet Says:

    Brien the General 510 Says:
    October 9th, 2009 at 10:22 am
    Dont worry Bichochet, the 49ers will start their losing streak when Atlanta comes to Candlecrap park this week. All you and your little babysitter’s club bend over betty sisterhood 49er fans can wipe each other’s tears with your 49er hanky.
    =====================
    How’s that “losing” thang work?
    You seem to be an expert at it.

    Oh, that’s right. You just get fall down drunk, and smoke cheap ganja to dull your senses.

    Question: Considering your knack of being less than astute, how, exactly, do you know when your senses are dulled? Do you just go from a “blur” to a “slow blur”?
    Hard to tell for you, isn’t it?

  349. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    BAG, I’m aware we have a young team, but that’s not the reason why we’re losing. That was the point you tried to make, and you’re full of it. Go back to Alameda with John and Mike and cook up another spin.

  350. Raider O Says:

    Fire Cable!!
    Fire Marshall!!
    Fire the Oline Coach!!
    Fire the WRs Coach!!
    Fire the LBs Coach!!!

    Draft football players!!

    Don’t worry about who said what, and focus on Football!!
    This team is crap, but they worry about an ex player and what he said about them!!!

    Hire a GM, or a coach with a lot of exp!!!!

    Build a new home for the Raiders!!!

    Legalize it!!

  351. Brien the General 510 Says:

    Raidertbone………………Al loves Mario Henderson as he should so you were gonna pay a RT hella money? Come on man. I understand the notion of getting Ron Brace. That was an idiotic move by Al.

  352. Raider O Says:

    Where is TW?? I haven’t heard from him.

  353. raidertbone Says:

    I say we put Randy Hanson on the offensive line!
    (Cable would probably strongly endorse that move for about two plays!)

  354. halster Says:

    Hey SnackOCrap or is it Richosh-t, you have no idea how sweet it is for me to dance on the pnheads of weak schoolyarders like yourself. Most of your ill
    informed comment about football are pulled from your ass, The rest of your bullyboy crap is the weakest sh-t i’ve ever heard. Maybe you can get your
    buddy Punky Brownhole to capp an someone your own size, like an aoeba.
    My hard earned working class dollars are on the amoeba.

  355. raidertbone Says:

    # Raider O Says:
    October 9th, 2009 at 10:43 am

    Fire Cable!!
    Fire Marshall!!
    Fire the Oline Coach!!
    Fire the WRs Coach!!
    Fire the LBs Coach!!!

    Draft football players!!

    Don’t worry about who said what, and focus on Football!!
    This team is crap, but they worry about an ex player and what he said about them!!!

    Hire a GM, or a coach with a lot of exp!!!!

    Build a new home for the Raiders!!!

    Legalize it!!
    ________________________________

    Raider O: I’m right there with you, man!

  356. Raider O Says:

    I wanted an OT, but if I can do it again, I would take Rey!!
    Who ever said Rey was a force, he was right.

  357. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Rumors going around that John Herrera is a cross dresser.

  358. wishbone Says:

    Hire a GM? Do you know who the owner is? Al didn’t like winning when Gruden & Bruce Allen were here. He prefers to lose than to give up any sort of control or power. He wants to win ONLY on his terms with his guys. He chose JR & says he will be great. If he has to let him go he will blame the coaches for not bringing the best out of him. Heard this one before?? (Marc Wilson, Jay Schroeder, Jeff George, Randy Moss & on & on & on) Al Davis knew how to con & fool people in the 60’s & 70’s. That stuff doesn’t work anymore. Every owner & exec in the NFL is smarter than Al Davis, but he just won’t admit it. He is an old, senile, broken down con artist who game is long since over.

  359. Brien the General 510 Says:

    # Richochet Says:
    October 9th, 2009 at 10:42 am

    Brien the General 510 Says:
    October 9th, 2009 at 10:22 am
    Dont worry Bichochet, the 49ers will start their losing streak when Atlanta comes to Candlecrap park this week. All you and your little babysitter’s club bend over betty sisterhood 49er fans can wipe each other’s tears with your 49er hanky.
    =====================
    How’s that “losing” thang work?
    You seem to be an expert at it.

    Oh, that’s right. You just get fall down drunk, and smoke cheap ganja to dull your senses.

    Question: Considering your knack of being less than astute, how, exactly, do you know when your senses are dulled? Do you just go from a “blur” to a “slow blur”?
    Hard to tell for you, isn’t it?
    *******************************

    Please I never fall down when I’m flooded nor do I smoke cheap weed. I live in the east bay where we have real grapes unlike the other side of bay.

    How are you handling the loss of your t-cells? Get that interferon little buddy.

    Only blur I know of= Los Angeles from 1986-1994.

    Dull is prolly your razor from all the times you use to shave Steve Young’s crack.

  360. Raider O Says:

    Cinci now have 2 USC LBs that played together at college too. Both were graded as 1st RD talents, Rey & Rivers.
    They also drafted an OT

    No wonder that team is 3-1!!!

    Can’t ignore your front 7, your Oline, and win games in today’s NFL!!!
    You can’t!!!!!

  361. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Well put, Wishbone.

    BTW, John Herrera is a bisexual. Has a little boyfriend he meets in San Jose once a week.

  362. BAG Says:

    Wishbone,

    How can you exclude the Gruden years? We gotta take the good and bad. It’s part of being a fan. Most teams in the NFL go through highs and lows. Some stay high, some stay low and some just stay competitive almost every year. The Philly Eagles have never won a Super Bowl, but they generally keep a comepetitve team, not championship caliber, but competitive. The Detroit Lions have been consistently a bad team for several decades and they too have never won a Super Bowl.

    Everyone’s favorite darling team the Patsy’s aren’t historically a winning team. Prior to Bill-o-Cheat and Tom Brady the Patsy’s had very limited success. The Patsy’s were one of the joke teams in the NFL along with the Bucc’s. After a few years of success now all of a sudden they’re the best thing since sliced bread? Let’s see what happens after Bill-o-cheat and Brady either retire/leave.

  363. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    BAG, your spin is so 5 years ago. Gotta take the good with the bad? Listen to yourself! What good, your moron? That bit really sounded better when we were only like 2 bad seasons into this skid. Get real, man.

  364. Raider O Says:

    Some said Rey was a 2 down LB ( I was one of them), and he can’t cover based on his 40 time.

    We need to start looking at production and not 40 times!! Al, I’m talking to you!!

  365. raidertbone Says:

    Raider O:
    You and I just need to storm the offices, sack the administration, commit Al to the local asylum, begin planning our re-build of the team, build a new stadium, bring in a new GM and a coach with a proven record, and sip that Super Bowl champagne (from Napa) in five years’ time!

  366. Brien the General 510 Says:

    Raider O……..who the F–k who were they gonna draft on the o-line this year at the 7th slot? Mario Henderson is your left tackle, get it? You arent paying a RT that much money for the 7th slot. Alex Mack wasnt going to get drafted that high so what did you suggest for the oline at that point?

  367. raidertbone Says:

    Brien The General forgot to take his meds this morning; he’s an angry Friday camper!

  368. Raider O Says:

    Wishbone,

    That’s why I said GM or a coach with exp!

  369. wishbone Says:

    BAG what are you talking about? Other than when Gruden was here what have they done since the early 80’s. All the coaches after Flores were puppets and the only reason why they even made the playoffs a few times was due to great athletes. Al Davis has not done anything noteworthy since getting Bo to play football part-time for full time money. Had he kept Gruden and Allen the Raiders probably would not be in a 7 years skid. Raider fans need to face the truth that Al Davis was a great 60’s, 70’s & early 80’s con man. He is now just an old jackass who thinks he knows how to run a pro football organization. He obviously doesn’t.

  370. Brien the General 510 Says:

    Yeah sure tbone, good way to deflect the fact you had nothing for me

  371. UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER Says:

    hey if barack obama can win the nobel peace prize then JaPoatroast can win the league mvp.

    they both have loads of potential and neither one has done anything yet.

  372. halster Says:

    At this point, Al couldn’t run a bingo game. Someone with more blood flow to
    the brain needs to be making the critical decisions. His son Scott or whoever has to get Al declared noncompesmentes -mentally incapable- to hire a real GM
    that understands the game as it is played today.

  373. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    BAG, do you think Al Davis is doing a good job running the Raiders? Flat out, yes or no. No more of your mind numbing spin.

  374. BAG Says:

    Brien the General,

    I understand your frustrated, so am I. But I suspect you were probably one of the many that didn’t want a retread QB. You wanted a rookie QB out of college. Well you got one. To think that J-Russ was suppose to come in and play like M.Ryan or even Flacco in his first full year as a starter was your own personal pipe dream. Most not some, most rookie QB’s struggle to fail. Do the research. No spin, no lie, just plain truth.

  375. Raider O Says:

    B,

    Mario was a 3rd pick who hasn’t played a full season yet. ( don’t get me wrong, he is playing Solid!). Also, as a 3rd pick he is not being paid much, so you can invest in another OT. That’s my opinion.

    TBone,

    As long as I can sack Amy 1st!!
    Amy!! Ummmm
    I think I like women with power, and evil souls!!

  376. raidertbone Says:

    Raider O:
    Women with power and evil souls …
    OMG – you’re in love with Hillary Clinton!

  377. raidertbone Says:

    Remember everyone … speed kills!

  378. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    BAG, you’re the most frustrated person here. That’s why you’re lying to everyone.

  379. raidertbone Says:

    As much as I hate to admit it, the Broncos seem to have orchestrated the kind of turnaround that I was hoping for us for this year!

  380. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Ha ha, Locomotive. Obama did win the Nobel Peace Prize. His nutz in yer mouth. When’s the last a Republican won anything? I don’t remember, either. I think Kerry Collins was our quarterback. Ha ha ha hah!!!!!!!!!!!

  381. Raider O Says:

    I love Al, he made the Raiders, but he can’t hire good Coaches ( they don’t like working for him), gambles on big ticket FAs, and drafts speed!!
    That alone has killed us the last 7 years!!

    Al needs help, and I’m being kind by putting it this way.

  382. BAG Says:

    Wishbone,

    Let’s blame Al Davis? Is that all you got? AL Davis is not blocking on the O-line. AL Davis is not dropping passes. AL Davis is not on the defensive line that still can’t stop the run. AL Davis is an eighty year old senior citizen with a wealth of knowledge about the game of football.

    Sure he has the final say, but the old man isn’t overseeing things with an iron fist as most here and in the Raider-hating media would like you to believe. Bye the way, where’s that follow up apology story to AL about the Seymour deal? I guess it got lost in all the AL Davis has lost it stories about how the Patsy’s unloaded dead weight Seymour on us for priceless draft picks.

  383. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    BAG, rate Al Davis as a GM, based on his performance in recent years. Go. Stop ducking the question.

  384. Raider O Says:

    I meant help like Ron W, or another GM.

  385. raidertbone Says:

    Commitment To Excellence!
    Let’s start a movement: Commit Al, so that we become Excellent again!

  386. halster Says:

    Hey RealMaddenRaider, you ever notice that when Republicans aren’t creaming over Reagan they get wet ove FDR.Slackers! Sorry about the diversion from football, but it’s iritating to read to the stupid political comments let alone the
    lazy football thoughts.

  387. Charlie Says:

    Brien

    Eugene Monroe!!!!!!

    As I have said before we are building the team from the outside in. I do not like it but the facts are obvious.

    After JR I would have focused on the Oline/Dline with our first and second rounders.
    You can always find decent skill guys in the later rounds.

    We will focus on the lines in next years draft. In the meantime we need to deal with the reality that we have a weak Oline and the most inexperienced set of skill players in the NFL.

    Many on this blog are guilty of wanting skill guys with our high picks. (Not me)
    Without a solid Oline they are largely inneffective.

  388. Raider O Says:

    TBone,

    LMAO!!!

  389. Raider O Says:

    Why:

    Why isn’t Walker cut, playing, or on any kind if an injury list??
    Why isn’t JLH on the field as a WR???
    Why isn’t Barnes on the field??
    Why isn’t Paul Mc playing G instead of Pears?
    Why wasn’t pears playing instead of Green?
    Why are we expecting other teams crap to be our starters? ) Satele, Warren, burgess, etc..
    Why isn’t Bush playing more?
    Why aren’t we using more double TE formations?
    Why did it take so long do do a reverse with DHB?
    Why is DHB only used as a Decoy?
    Why are the 2 rookie WRs srtarting?
    Why is Fargas still running the ball?

    Pls fire Cable!!!

  390. Brien the General 510 Says:

    # BAG Says:
    October 9th, 2009 at 11:05 am

    Brien the General,

    I understand your frustrated, so am I. But I suspect you were probably one of the many that didn’t want a retread QB. You wanted a rookie QB out of college. Well you got one. To think that J-Russ was suppose to come in and play like M.Ryan or even Flacco in his first full year as a starter was your own personal pipe dream. Most not some, most rookie QB’s struggle to fail. Do the research. No spin, no lie, just plain truth.
    ***********************************

    I wanted a QB drafted no doubt in 2007 but not Russell. I knew he would do nada just like he is now. To think the guy should get a pass after holding out and having a 6-14 record as a starter is ridiculous. His fundamentals and technique are awful. The media does say sour things but they all cant be lying. I dont need some funky ass research to see the guy sucks

  391. wishbone Says:

    Anyone who thinks Al will ever hire a GM or proven coach needs to take another drink of the Kool Aid. Al is senile and I believe he doesn’t even know how bad things really are. He has said he will not step down until he either dies or they win two more Super Bowls. Well just to let you all know his parents both lived to be 100+. The NFL will not step in because they love the fact that Al is an embarassing joke. He thought he owned the NFL in the 60’s, 70’s & 80’s. Now all the owners and execs are laughing their collective a&&es off. Keep smoking the young team crap. 7 years from now you’ll be saying the same thing I bet. Unless someone pushes Al down a flight of stairs or doesn’t change his diapers for a month the losing & the embarassment will continue on. I will always love the Raiders, but Al to me is an absolute cancereous monstor who ruined an organization.

  392. UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER Says:

    Raider O Says:
    October 9th, 2009 at 10:50 am
    I wanted an OT, but if I can do it again, I would take Rey!!
    Who ever said Rey was a force, he was right.

    ===================

    we could of gotten both they took monroe right behind dhb pick and they could of traded up a couple of spots in the second round to get rey. and still gotten murphy in the fourth.

    man imagine that eugene monroe and rey m.

    i drive freight trains and i could of had a better draft than big al.

  393. raidertbone Says:

    J Russ has fine physical tools; so does Vince Young. Leadership is one thing, though, that a quarterback either has or doesn’t have. Jay Schroeder didn’t have it, nor Jeff George, Moron-o-vich, or Andrew Walter.
    Face it, there are some QBs who have a ton of talent, but just can’t make it as a leader in this league.
    J Russ is just going to become another sad case of “what could’ve been …”

  394. Charlie Says:

    You can not compare JR to any QB that was drafted by a team that has been to the playoffs in the last couple of years (Falcons,Ravens,Jets).

    We have been bad for a long time because we have many holes.

    Even the Ravens spoon fed Flacco last year. They ran the ball more than any team in the NFL.
    They had the talent on the line to do it.
    We don’t.

  395. Raider O Says:

    ULE,

    And they could have still drafted Matt S, MM, and Murphy.

    They reached on all their picks except Murphy!

  396. Raider-405 Says:

    Does anyone else feel that being a Raiders fan is like having a wife that cheats on you week after week with the pool man, then the
    mailman and so forth week after week but we just can’t let her go??

  397. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    BAG, HELLO? Are you going to rate Al Davis as an owner, or not? It’s a simple question. On a scale of 1 to 10, how good of a job has Al Davis done running the Raiders in the past few years? You’re telling people not to blame Al, yet you’re ducking a question asking how effective he is. Don’t think nobody’s noticing.

  398. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    BAG,

    Davis shills don’t last long in this blog anymore. That’s why you’re getting smacked around. Just so you know.

  399. wishbone Says:

    I would rate Al Davis a negative 10 for the job he has done since 1995 & returning to Oakland. Look at the coaches he has hired. Mike White, Joe Bugel, Callahan, pizza face Norv, Art, (not counting Gruden cuz Al didn’t like winning with him). Since the loss in the Super Bowl the Raiders are the worst team in pro football. Different coaches, assistants, players, flight attendants, bathroom cleaners, lawn mowers over that past 7 years yet the same result. Why??? Gee it all goes back to the person in charge. The guy who drafts, hires, pays all those. AL DAVIS. I would be willing to bet that one of the UFL teams could beat the Raiders. Face the facts people. Al Davis has done this because he can. He doesn’t care what anyone says. He doesn’t care that the fans are embarassed or angry. He only cares about doing it his way. He is a selfish, senile, old fart with a Hitler/Bush complex.

  400. Charlie Says:

    How would you like to be a fan of the Panthers,Redskins,Dolphins,Titans,Browns,Rams,Chiefs etc.

    How does the Leinert pick look for the Cardinals?
    How about Quinn with the Browns?
    How about Young with the Titans?
    Who plays when Bulger is hurt for the Rams?

    You guys make it sound like we are the only team that has issues.

    We do have a greater nucleus of skill talent than the teams listed above.

    The POTENTIAL will not become evident until we draft to build the lines and these young guys get experience.

  401. Brien the General 510 Says:

    # Charlie Says:
    October 9th, 2009 at 11:17 am

    Brien

    Eugene Monroe!!!!!!

    As I have said before we are building the team from the outside in. I do not like it but the facts are obvious.

    After JR I would have focused on the Oline/Dline with our first and second rounders.
    You can always find decent skill guys in the later rounds.

    We will focus on the lines in next years draft. In the meantime we need to deal with the reality that we have a weak Oline and the most inexperienced set of skill players in the NFL.

    Many on this blog are guilty of wanting skill guys with our high picks. (Not me)
    Without a solid Oline they are largely inneffective.
    **************************

    So let me get this straight you were willing to pay huge money to a RT after you knew Mario was going to be the LT of the future lol. Genius!

  402. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    BAG has been exposed as a Davis shill. I’ve got him on the run.

  403. Brien the General 510 Says:

    Obama gets the Nobel Peace Prize as a shining example of a good in line stooge lol.

    If you people cant see through this then you are quite stupid

  404. maddenraiderfan Says:

    The only thing that killed us the last 6 seasons is that Al kept thinking we were a superbowl contender and tried to just bring in a couple FA’s to fill spots.

    Instead he should have been rebuilding our (really) old team. This season has been the complete opposite of the last 6 years. This year we are rebuilding with new young athletes. This is what we needed to do 6 years ago. This year we are losing because our players are inexperiences, not because they are washed up veterans.

    The team looks like its going in the right direction and despite people (for some reason) not liking cable, they need to stick with him for a couple years.

  405. UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER Says:

    Raider O Says:
    October 9th, 2009 at 11:20 am
    ULE,

    And they could have still drafted Matt S, MM, and Murphy.

    They reached on all their picks except Murphy!

    ==============
    exactly my thought. they would have gotten them all except for dhb which imo would not have been a bad thing.

    i think murphy and chaz will be a good duo in years to come.

    and if they hadn’t drafted dhb at least higgin or ivonn walker would be playing right now catching things that hit them in the hand.

  406. Charlie Says:

    Brien

    You are on the same page as Mr Davis.

    Pay a lot of money for elite skill talent when drafting in the top ten.

    In theory you draft in a lower position after this skill talent improves your record and pay less money for lineman.

    The problem is these elite skill guys do not perform well looking out of there earhole playing behind a weak Oline.

    It sounds like you support our drafting over the last three years.
    Deal with your reality and stop whining.

  407. UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER Says:

    After the fact now everyone is a genius. Yet there was no public out cry before we started losing that the team is full of loser players. Now that we’ve lost a few games now the players are all losers and so is AL for drafting them. Well, I say that’s a load of garbage. Depending on the draft is a risky concept in itself as the draft is nothing more than a crap shoot. We did draft O-lineman high in the draft that’s how we aquired Gallery and Grove. How did that work out?

    Some of the same people whining about we need to draft for lines are the same people that were whining calling Gallery a bust after his first couple of years. Now these same people have flip-flopped again and are now calling Gallery our best O-lineman.

    And for the 40 time buffs, there have been several players that were drafted high and they didn’t have good 40 times. M.Mitchell, Nnamdi, Z.Miller, J-Russ, M.Huff, and K.Morrison to name a few.

    =========================
    m. mitchell was drafted for his 40 time

    moron

  408. UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER Says:

    i think bag is an al davis minion

  409. Raider O Says:

    Other teams have problems too, but our problems are consistent .

  410. Richochet Says:

    wishbone Says:
    October 9th, 2009 at 11:25 am
    I would rate Al Davis a negative 10 for the job he has done since 1995 & returning to Oakland. Look at the coaches he has hired. Mike White, Joe Bugel, Callahan, pizza face Norv, Art, (not counting Gruden cuz Al didn’t like winning with him). Since the loss in the Super Bowl the Raiders are the worst team in pro football. Different coaches, assistants, players, flight attendants, bathroom cleaners, lawn mowers over that past 7 years yet the same result. Why??? Gee it all goes back to the person in charge. The guy who drafts, hires, pays all those. AL DAVIS. I would be willing to bet that one of the UFL teams could beat the Raiders. Face the facts people. Al Davis has done this because he can. He doesn’t care what anyone says. He doesn’t care that the fans are embarassed or angry. He only cares about doing it his way. He is a selfish, senile, old fart with a Hitler/Bush complex.
    ===========================
    This post should be a sticky for all of Jerry’s threads.
    Everyone should read it, post “I AGREE” and then move on.
    After 10,000 I agrees, we’ll have Jerry transpose it onto a roll of TP, and then send it to Al.
    Where he’ll then flush the opinions down the drain, just like he has since day one.

    When the Bekins trucks backed up to raider central to load up for LA, a reporter said to Al:
    ‘You know you’re really breaking a lot of Raider fans hearts by leaving? These are the same fans who sold out the stadium for every game, even when the Raiders weren’t winning. Many believe you’re taking their team away from them.”
    Al’s reply? “I don’t care what they say. It’s not their team, it’s my team. I’ll do what I want with my team.”

    You’re such a classy guy, Al ;)

  411. Brien the General 510 Says:

    Charlie you dumb son of a b—h when did I say draft a skill position? Everyone who was on here earlier this year knows who i really wanted and that guy plays in Cincy. I’ll give you a minute to think about who that person is

  412. BAG Says:

    After the fact now everyone is a genius. Yet there was no public out cry before we started losing that the team is full of loser players. Now that we’ve lost a few games now the players are all losers and so is AL for drafting them. Well, I say that’s a load of garbage. Depending on the draft is a risky concept in itself as the draft is nothing more than a crap shoot. We did draft O-lineman high in the draft that’s how we aquired Gallery and Grove. How did that work out?

    Some of the same people whining about we need to draft for lines are the same people that were whining calling Gallery a bust after his first couple of years. Now these same people have flip-flopped again and are now calling Gallery our best O-lineman.

    And for the 40 time buffs, there have been several players that were drafted high and they didn’t have good 40 times. M.Mitchell, Nnamdi, Z.Miller, J-Russ, M.Huff, and K.Morrison to name a few.

  413. halster Says:

    Al has gone fron crafty to crazy. Any doubts were removed during the
    Lance Kiffin press conference. I heard that Al’s walker is really at transformer.
    At the press conference it turned into an overhead projecter. Neat huh?

  414. Mistabrown Says:

    Cable is doing exactly what he’s told why would you fire a guy like that ?

    # Raider O Says:
    October 9th, 2009 at 11:18 am

    Why:

    Why isn’t Walker cut, playing, or on any kind if an injury list??
    Why isn’t JLH on the field as a WR???
    Why isn’t Barnes on the field??
    Why isn’t Paul Mc playing G instead of Pears?
    Why wasn’t pears playing instead of Green?
    Why are we expecting other teams crap to be our starters? ) Satele, Warren, burgess, etc..
    Why isn’t Bush playing more?
    Why aren’t we using more double TE formations?
    Why did it take so long do do a reverse with DHB?
    Why is DHB only used as a Decoy?
    Why are the 2 rookie WRs srtarting?
    Why is Fargas still running the ball?

    Pls fire Cable!!!

  415. Mistabrown Says:

    Well the Noble prize is now a meaningless award. The bar has been lowered so low anybody can win it.

    Hope & change

  416. wishbone Says:

    Someone please tell me another team the Ricky Brown, Tommy Kelly, Cornell Green & Luke Lawton would start for? These guys should be in the UFL. Al does not recognize real talent anymore. He doesn’t understand about building a team starting with both lines. If you have a sorry O & D lines your whole team will stink. He still thinks that having the fastest guys and strongest arm equals wins. Yeah in 1968.

  417. Charlie Says:

    Brien

    Great. Another guy that thinks a LB will be effective behind a weak Dline.
    Ray Lewis threatened to retire unless they drafted a DT and they drafted Ngata.

    So Rey plays behind Kelly and Warren.

    Great thinking. You probably applauded the Mitchell pick thinking he will help stop the run.
    Getting rid of RR really helped our run D hasn’t it?

    Everything starts with the lines.

    Build the lines and maybe you could even play linebacker for the Raiders.LOL

  418. los raiders de don rober Says:

    I’m with BAG. It’s not Al’s fault, its the fault of the people in this blog that flip flop and have a bad opinion of “good comes with bad” Al Davis.

  419. 4evaRaider Says:

    409 Raider O

    LMAO!!!

  420. los raiders de don rober Says:

    oh, and all those games in which the other teams stop playing and start killing the clock at the begining of the 3rd qtr (6 last season, 2 this season so far), shoot those games happen to half of the nfl teams all the time, really, its all a crap-shoot.

  421. BAG Says:

    MR,

    No ducking here. Rating a owner is probably the one of the most subjective things a fan can do. You don’t have even a partial clue as what goes on behind the scenes or what it takes to run a NFL football team. Why rate someone who does line-up or even suit-up to play? Do I like who AL has hired for head coaches the last few years, no not particularly, but I’m not going to sit here and pretend like I knew that the DB coach for the Vikings (M.Tomlin) would be a great head coach. Most here thought Eric Mangini former HC for the Jets now the Browns was going to be some great HC, how’s that working out?

  422. wishbone Says:

    BTW giving Obama a Nobel Prize is like give JR NFL MVP. What’s next GW Bush Mayor of New Orleans.

  423. raidertbone Says:

    Jeff Garcia was right!!

  424. Raider75 Says:

    I am all for sticking with Cable another year, but he needs to get away from the Zone Blocking and get some REAL O-lineman.

    This team needs o-line and LB upgrades.

    The losing will continue until the O-line is good enough to protect Russell.

    Russell is not comfortable or confident behind this line and his play reflects that. He was only sacked twice in Houston, but he was knocked down 11 times and had guys in his face all day.

    In Houston, you could see the backs hesitate behind the line because they do not trust the blockers. Other times, they would cutback to soon rather than let the play develop because they did not trust the guys in front of them.

  425. Richochet Says:

    BAG Says:
    October 9th, 2009 at 11:43 am
    After the fact now everyone is a genius. Yet there was no public out cry before we started losing that the team is full of loser players. Now that we’ve lost a few games now the players are all losers and so is AL for drafting them. Well, I say that’s a load of garbage. Depending on the draft is a risky concept in itself as the draft is nothing more than a crap shoot. We did draft O-lineman high in the draft that’s how we aquired Gallery and Grove. How did that work out?

    Some of the same people whining about we need to draft for lines are the same people that were whining calling Gallery a bust after his first couple of years. Now these same people have flip-flopped again and are now calling Gallery our best O-lineman.

    And for the 40 time buffs, there have been several players that were drafted high and they didn’t have good 40 times. M.Mitchell, Nnamdi, Z.Miller, J-Russ, M.Huff, and K.Morrison to name a few.
    ==========================
    First off Gallery WAS A BUST. A HUGE bust. drafted as a tackle, not a guard. Paid top tackle money. Paid to defend the blind side. Guy was barely above Kwame level. That means BUST.
    And calling Gallery your best O lineman? That’s like saying the rotten apple, third from the left tastes better than the other rotten apples. In other words, he sucks, just doesn’t suck as much IN HIS POSITION as other players might suck in theirs? Put Gallery back at tackle AND HE SUCKS. So any tackle that is adequate is immediately a better Olineman than Gallery. you know the saying..”If you can’t be a tackle, accept the demotion and be a guard”. He did. He had no choice.

    And I guess you don’t know Al’s other hard-on?
    It’s d-backs. Speed and d-backs.
    Prior to Huff? 4 of 6 previous picks..d-backs.
    Washington in ‘05
    Aso in ‘03
    Buchanon in ‘02
    Gibson in ‘01

    Al goes into his little “quirk” modes, lol.

    Oh..I see you left out FREE AGENCY SIGNINGS…gosh, I wonder why?

  426. BAG Says:

    UP Locomotive Eng,

    M. Mitchell ran a 4.56 forty. Not exactly a blazer, smart guy.

  427. Richochet Says:

    BAG Says:
    October 9th, 2009 at 11:56 am
    MR,

    No ducking here. Rating a owner is probably the one of the most subjective things a fan can do. You don’t have even a partial clue as what goes on behind the scenes or what it takes to run a NFL football team. Why rate someone who does line-up or even suit-up to play? Do I like who AL has hired for head coaches the last few years, no not particularly, but I’m not going to sit here and pretend like I knew that the DB coach for the Vikings (M.Tomlin) would be a great head coach. Most here thought Eric Mangini former HC for the Jets now the Browns was going to be some great HC, how’s that working out?
    ================
    LMAO.so, in other words, you’re in total denial, you drink the kool aid Al’s serves ya..and you just view all of those coaching candidates who walked away saying “DON’T EVEN BOTHER DRAWING UP A CONTRACT’ as what? Just didn’t like their parking spot?

    THE POINT IS NOT WHETHER OR NOT A PARTICULAR COACH WORKS OUT ELSEWHERE, it’s the fact you NEVER have quality coaches even interested in the Raider job. They show up for an interview, to show SOMEONE is interested, for their resume, and then say OH DAMN, NO THANKS.

    LMAO at you and your lovefest for the old geezer, actually feeling that if you question him you’re less of a fan.

  428. Brien the General 510 Says:

    # Charlie Says:
    October 9th, 2009 at 11:49 am

    Brien

    Great. Another guy that thinks a LB will be effective behind a weak Dline.
    Ray Lewis threatened to retire unless they drafted a DT and they drafted Ngata.

    So Rey plays behind Kelly and Warren.

    Great thinking. You probably applauded the Mitchell pick thinking he will help stop the run.
    Getting rid of RR really helped our run D hasn’t it?

    Everything starts with the lines.

    Build the lines and maybe you could even play linebacker for the Raiders.LOL
    ***********************************

    You are a certified idiot. Rey Maualuga is a real football player. He isnt a soft as speed linebacker and would have helped the Raider defense big time especially with ellis and seymour being there. Warren does suck at stopping the run and kelly is so-so but we have no true mlb to plug any holes. Morrison is garbage and yes Rey Rey would have been the smart pick. and our dline isnt weak

  429. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    BAG, you’re right, I don’t have a clue what goes on behind the scenes. I don’t have a clue what goes on behind the scenes in Pittsburgh, NY, or Indy, either. But I know they win, and I know we lose. I also know that Al Davis is the only constant who’s been in our upper management throughout our losing run. Based on that, think he’s doing a good job, or a bad job? I don’t blame you for not wanting to answer.

  430. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    BAG, you’re a pathetic shill. Call it a day. It went nowhere. Nobody bought into your b.s.

  431. Richochet Says:

    maddenraiderfan Says:
    October 9th, 2009 at 11:31 am
    The only thing that killed us the last 6 seasons is that Al kept thinking we were a superbowl contender and tried to just bring in a couple FA’s to fill spots.

    Instead he should have been rebuilding our (really) old team. This season has been the complete opposite of the last 6 years. This year we are rebuilding with new young athletes. This is what we needed to do 6 years ago. This year we are losing because our players are inexperiences, not because they are washed up veterans.

    The team looks like its going in the right direction and despite people (for some reason) not liking cable, they need to stick with him for a couple years.
    ========================

    HEY MADDENRAIDER?? How come as soon as you put REAL in front of your name, you get stupid?

  432. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    BAG, also, John Herrera is a bisexual cross dresser. Common knowledge in the town. Spread the word.

  433. Richochet Says:

    SEE WHAT I MEAN? LOL…RIGHT ON CUE.
    you put REAL in front of you name, and you dumbdown.
    Wild.
    =====================

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    October 9th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
    BAG, you’re a pathetic shill. Call it a day. It went nowhere. Nobody bought into your b.s.

  434. BAG Says:

    Richochet,

    I guess your 49ers have drafted so much better, right? How’s Alex Smith doing? Where’s Kwame Harris? How about Rashaun Woods? And please let’s not forget about the total mess that is M. Crabtree.

  435. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Ha ha. The angry Obama haters are on fire today. They gave him this award just to make you guys cringe and act out. Obama’s been rope a doping the right since he announced his candidacy. The behavior he’s induced republicans into has ruined any chance of them winning an election for the next decade.

  436. Brien the General 510 Says:

    Please Obama is great friends with the republican guys. Obama has done nada and will do nada. You are just an idiot that likes a good speech.

  437. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    BAG, the niners signed Crabtree. That’s over now. I don’t know if it’s wise for you Davis shills to point across the bay to rationalize the Raiders’ mess anymore, considering they’re 3-1 and playing their best football possibly since Young was injured.

  438. Brien the General 510 Says:

    It is amazing people love Obama and how well he speaks but Hitler gets so much hate.

  439. Raider O Says:

    Look at our drafts and coaches for the last 8 years, and you will understand our problems.
    Look at how many players we passed on due to their slow 40 who are PBs.
    Look at how many coaches passed on working for us!
    Look at who we hired as coaches: Art, Norv, Bill C, Kittin, and Cable!!! Only 1 coaches at the NFL level ( Norv & he’s not doing well), and Cable who is coaching with us!!

  440. BAG Says:

    MR,

    I could care less what John Herrera does in his spare time or even AL for that matter. There are several things about the team that I like and dislike. There are several things that AL has done that I like and several that I don’t like. Overall, to me the eighty year old man using a walker is not the problem. The problem is on the field on both sides of the ball.

  441. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Brien, being a hater will get you nowhere. Get out there and accomplish something. Stop hating on Obama because he became the first black president. I know you don’t think it’s a black person’s place to become president, and that he should be on the street corner hustling. But he had bigger goals than you. Learn from him. Don’t hate.

  442. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    BAG, who signed those players on the field? Who drafted them? Who gave them the contracts? If it’s not Al, then who? Who’s our top personnel guy?

  443. Chris in NY Says:

    Tuned into Limbaugh this afternoon to see hear his reaction to Obama winning the Nobel prize.

    That guy does a funnier job of being a caricature of a lunatic, self-important, phony, clueless, classless out of touch, dope, right-wing jackass than Steven Colbert could ever imagine.

    I love Colbert, but sorry Steve, Rush is even funnier to listen to. I know you’re trying to be funny and Rush is trying to be taken seriously, but that’s just how the cookie crumbles.

  444. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Brien, Ronald Reagan was a good speaker, too. Funny how the same people comparing Obama to Hitler based upon speaking skills and fanaticism don’t make the same comparison with Reagan. If you’re not a republican hack, Brien, you’re drinking their soup regardless. Get back on the corner and sell a rock, Brien. The mere discussion of Obama is bigger than you. Just talk about street politics in the town. It’s all you know.

  445. BAG Says:

    MR,

    Please. You should be last person to speak about anything concerning Crabtree. Because if that were us just signing Crabtree 5 weeks into the season you and the Raider-hating media would be having a field day. AL has lost it. It took AL 5 weeks into the regular season to sign his first round draft pick, blah, blah, blah!! But the 49ers get a pass in your book, right?

  446. halster Says:

    Again, Mista Brownstain, Why are you here and why the political rant ? This is a football forum and you continue to prove that pro football doesn’t exist in
    Cleveland. Are you still a little pissed tha Brian Sipe passed on 3rd down
    instead of kicking the fieldgoal ? It’ll be a cold day in hell before the ugh
    Browns get that close again. Maybe you should be channeling your inner
    Paul Brown instead of changing feet when you open your mouth.

  447. Chris in NY Says:

    BAG Says:
    October 9th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
    UP Locomotive Eng,

    M. Mitchell ran a 4.56 forty. Not exactly a blazer, smart guy.

    ——————-

    I believe Mitchell ran a 4.4 at his pro day. Still, 4.56 is reasonably fast for a strong safety.

  448. BAG Says:

    MR,

    You want to know who drafted the players etc. implying that the players are sorry. Again, I don’t remember you making any type of public outcry that the players were sorry prior to the season. Now after a few losses the players are all sorry. Hindsight is easy and is always 20/20.

  449. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    BAG, I’m sorry, did you answer my question? Who’s responsible for these underachieving players, that you’re blaming for how bad we are, being here in the first place? I didn’t see an answer. You just brought up the niners again, trying to change the subject. Is it that you just don’t want to believe that Al is responsible for bringing these lousy players here, or are you intentionally trying to divert attention from it? If it’s the latter, I’ll tell you again, you’re an unconvincing joke as a Davis shill. Pack it in and try again someday.

  450. Raider O Says:

    Fire Cable!!

  451. KoolKell Says:

    President Obama Wins Nobel Peace Prize!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  452. Richochet Says:

    BAG Says:
    October 9th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
    Richochet,

    I guess your 49ers have drafted so much better, right? How’s Alex Smith doing? Where’s Kwame Harris? How about Rashaun Woods? And please let’s not forget about the total mess that is M. Crabtree.
    ========
    MY Niners? They’re MINE?
    Cool :)

    But sure, I’ll play.
    Alex Smith? HE DIDN’T GET THE JOB DONE. What did the Niners do? WHAT THEY SHOULD HAVE DONE..benched his sorryass. See, unlike the Raiders who are now the laughingstock of the country because Al the Bard is keeping in the biggest BUST in the country, because AL THE IDIOT REFUSES TO ADMIT HE MADE A MISTAKE, the Niners cut their losses..AS THEY SHOULD HAVE DONE, moron.

    Where’s Kwame? LMAO..geez..another target.. the Niners BENCHED KWAME..and they SHOULD HAVE DONE once he didn’t get the job done.AND THEN?? Niners released his sorryass..where NO TEAM even gave him a sniff..after all, he led the league in penalties..sooooo AL THEN SIGNS HIM TO A 10 MILLION $ CONTRACT..lol..
    That’s what happened to Kwame..he then went and started at LT and even though the Raiders STUPIDLY left him in (see Al REFUSING TO ADMIT HE MADE A MISTAKE) for 12 games, he STILL led the NFL in penalties.

    Crabtree? Well, again, LMAO..Niners did WHAT THEY SHOULD HAVE DONE..they didn’t cower to his demands. They, UNLIKE AL, didn’t OVERPAY. Crab waited, knew the Niners were NOT going to bend, and signed..and got what THE NINERS OFFERED 4 MONTHS AGO..

    Unlike Al, who STUPIDLY signed a “fast guy” who now, alongside Russell AND McFumble are going for the TRIFECTA..THREE FIRST ROUND DRAFT PICKS, IN A ROW, ALL APPROACHING BUST STATUS.

    Crab is not ON the Niners, ready to play.
    Bey, after receiving 1.6 MILLION for 4 games, has TWO receptions…in other words, HE SUCKS.

    Has any team EVER, in the history of the NFL, had three back to back to back first round choices viewed as busts, or close to bust status? HELL NO.

  453. BAG Says:

    Chris in NY,

    Mitchell ran the 4.4 before the first hammy injury and I don’t believe that 4.4 time was official. Mitchell was touted as a hard hitting safety/football player coming out of college not a speed guy.

  454. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Obama’s not white either, Brien. And if the police were looking for a tall, skinny black guy, they’d stop Obama in a second if he weren’t the president. So cut that argument. As I said, Brien, the discussion of Obama is above the likes of you, people in the street life, and content with it.

  455. Brien the General 510 Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    October 9th, 2009 at 12:28 pm

    Brien, being a hater will get you nowhere. Get out there and accomplish something. Stop hating on Obama because he became the first black president. I know you don’t think it’s a black person’s place to become president, and that he should be on the street corner hustling. But he had bigger goals than you. Learn from him. Don’t hate.
    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    October 9th, 2009 at 12:32 pm

    Brien, Ronald Reagan was a good speaker, too. Funny how the same people comparing Obama to Hitler based upon speaking skills and fanaticism don’t make the same comparison with Reagan. If you’re not a republican hack, Brien, you’re drinking their soup regardless. Get back on the corner and sell a rock, Brien. The mere discussion of Obama is bigger than you. Just talk about street politics in the town. It’s all you know.
    *****************************

    Obama isnt black. He said so himself idiot! Obama is a nobody stooge just following orders like Tom Cable.

  456. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Brien, Obama’s gay? Where did you get this? Was it just a dream you had? Well, it was just that, a dream. Not real. Sleeping in those motels on International with the sound on the other side of the walls is giving you weird dreams, Brien.

  457. Brien the General 510 Says:

    # KoolKell Says:
    October 9th, 2009 at 12:41 pm

    President Obama Wins Nobel Peace Prize!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    **********************

    Wow look at Kell praise a homosexual.

  458. utahraiderfan Says:

    I hear Manning is going to start sunday. Archie that is !! Eli will rest his foot another week cause they can still pick up a win with his dad !!

  459. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    All presidents follow orders, Brien. You’re not cracking any conspiracy with that, delusional one. But I’ll take the people Obama’s taking orders from over the people that Bush was, and that McCain would have. And, they’re not the same people. Why do you think the health insurers are sending so many uneducated tools like you to these town hall meetings?

  460. Brien the General 510 Says:

    MR no one calls it International for your info and no i dont F with them tellies there. Go research it. White dude came out about their gay and crack smoking affair. You know nothing about shhhhhhhhht

  461. halster Says:

    All you Glenn Beck wannabes need to find a blog site for political theories
    like Dittoheadsonfire.com. Your source for news is the fatman on drugs ?
    Get a freeking life. Try and stick to football issues. Oh and Richoshade, was that you with the flag running up and down the field a Candlestone last Sunday?
    The Niners want their flag back for Gay Pride week.

  462. Brien the General 510 Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    October 9th, 2009 at 12:50 pm

    All presidents follow orders, Brien. You’re not cracking any conspiracy with that, delusional one. But I’ll take the people Obama’s taking orders from over the people that Bush was, and that McCain would have. And, they’re not the same people. Why do you think the health insurers are sending so many uneducated tools like you to these town hall meetings?
    *********************************

    Hahahahahahaha Obama takes the same orders they were taking you idiot! It is the man behind the curtain that runs the show. You know shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhht

  463. BAG Says:

    Richochet,

    How about some truth? Alex Smith started for the 49ers in 2005, 06, and 07. It wasn’t until 2008 that he was permenantly benched. This is J-Russ first full year as the starter.

    We had Kwame for 1 year and paid him 3 million and cut him.

    And yes your team has had 3 back to back first round choices viewed as busts. 4 even.

    Mike Rumph 1st round pick 2002 BUST!!
    Kwame Harris 1st round pick 2003 BUST!!
    Rashaun Woods 1st round pick 2004 BUST!!
    Alex Smith 1st round pick 2005 BUST!!

  464. Brien the General 510 Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    October 9th, 2009 at 12:45 pm

    Obama’s not white either, Brien. And if the police were looking for a tall, skinny black guy, they’d stop Obama in a second if he weren’t the president. So cut that argument. As I said, Brien, the discussion of Obama is above the likes of you, people in the street life, and content with it.
    ***************************
    You gotta be kidding me with that garbage now. He is an African. He aint black like me or even KoolKell. He isnt the first black president. He is the first foriegner as president.

  465. OFL71 Says:

    Bush needed to be our starter LAST YEAR.
    Doesn’t matter anyway Jamarcus will be terrible and the Raiders will get slaughtered.

  466. halster Says:

    Hey Brien, Sounds like you’re huffing your own farts. Stop before your brain
    loses any more cognitive power. As for the Obama crap, the Teabaggers are looking for more stage props. This could be your ticket into politics. Teabaggers, sheeyat, you guys are ridiculous.Get another PR firm for your symbolism or you might find you doing shots with Richoslurm and his masseus MistaBrowneye over in Niner country. Hey Rush might need a rubdown.

  467. marc cassidy Says:

    marc cassidy…

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