Phase II a problem for Russell
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Saturday, October 10th, 2009 at 12:08 pm in Oakland Raiders.
You’ve all seen the comparisons between Raiders quarterback JaMarcus Russell and other quarterbacks taken No. 1 in the draft through their first 16 games, which served as statistical evidence that it is too early to call him a bust.
From here, it’s still too early _ writing off a high-priced talent is something easier done by fans and media without a financial stake in it.
But the numbers don’t lie, and Russell’s are spectacularly bad through the first quarter of the season.
The most disturbing aspect of Russell’s development is that his performance didn’t climb as would have been expected with a strong finish to the 2008 season. Instead, Russell has gone backward, and even his supporters (a rapidly declining number) would concede he has regressed even when all the issues such as system changes and young wide receivers are taken into account.
In theory, after getting 16 games under his belt, Russell should be taking the next step in Games 17 through 20. He should be more polished, more detailed, more accurate.
I went back and compared Russell’s record and statistics to every quarterback taken top three overall dating back to 1983 in starts 17 through 20 and here’s where he ranks:
QB, Team, (W-L), PA-PC-PCT-YDS-TD-HI
Jim Everett, LAR (4-0) 103-63-61.2-739-9-2-104.0
Carson Palmer, Cin (2-2) 136-95-69.9-1,014-5-2-97.5
Peyton Manning, Ind (2-2) 141-85-60.2-1,185-10-6-93.2
Rick Mirer, Sea (3-1) 114-70-61.4-754-5-2-88.1
John Elway, Den (4-0) 118-68-57.6-752-5-2-83.7
Donovan McNabb, Phi (3-1) 150-88-58.7-806-4-2-76.6
Tim Couch, Cle (1-3) 117-75-64.1-798-3-5-74.6
Steve NcNair, Ten (2-2) 88-46-52.3-556-3-2-73.8
Eli Manning, NYG (2-2) 154-86-55.8-1,026-6-6-73.1
Heath Shuler, Wash-NO (2-2) 84-45-53.6-655-2-3-72.3
David Carr, Hou (2-2) 130-74-56.9-880-3-5-69.4
Jeff George, Ind (0-4) 114-75-65.8-610-0-3-68.2
Vinny Testaverde, TB (3-1) 98-56-57.1-729-5-7-67.9
Ryan Leaf, SD (0-4) 109-56-51.4-580-2-4-57.8
Drew Bledsoe, NE (0-4) 182-90-49.5-1,022-5-8-57.4
Michael Vick, Atl (2-2) 107-47-43.9-585-4-54.5
Alex Smith, SF (0-4) 144-68-47.2-662-2-4-53.6
Troy Aikman, Dal (1-3) 135-69-51.1-702-2-6-52.7
Joey Harrington, Det (1-3) 109-60-55.0-527-3-7-50.5
Vince Young, Ten (3-1) 84-51-60.7-429-0-6-44.2
JaMarcus Russell, Oak (1-3) 108-43-39.8-506-1-4-42.4
Note: Akili Smith, the No. 3 overall pick of Cincinnati in 1999, had 17 career starts.
Setting aside the national debate of Russell’s dedication to his craft, there are myriad factors which contribute to a quarterback’s performance, including supporting cast.
If Russell is to become an Aikman instead of a Leaf, it will have a lot to do with whether Darren McFadden or Michael Bush can become Emmitt Smith and someone can emerge as a Michael Irvin, plus talent upgrades in a lot of other areas. The offensive line will be a key here, as will some consistency in his coaching.
You can put away those comparisons to Elway for the time being. By his 17th start, Elway’s career had taken off in Denver, with a 12-2 record as a starter in his second year and going 16-for-19 with five touchdown passes against Minnesota in his 21st start _ exactly where Russell is today against the Giants.
RUSSELL VS. RAIDERS QBS
Here’s how some Raiders quarterbacks fared in starts 17 through 20:
QB, Team, (W-L), PA-PC-PCT-YDS-TD-HI
Ken Stabler (4-0) 95-57-60.0-857-8-0-117.1
Daryle Lamonica (4-0) 98-46-46.9-898-9-2-101.4
Jeff Hostetler, NYG (2-2) 66-35-53.0-447-2-0-84.6
Rich Gannon, Min (2-2) 118-76-64.4-799-5-4-84.0
Jay Schroeder, Wash (2-2) 159-82-1,175-7-10-64.3
Marc Wilson (2-2) 97-48-49.5-510-5-6-56.6
Jim Plunkett, NE (1-3) 116-56-48.3-766-2-7-40.3
These numbers are admittedly apples and oranges. Lamonica (who began in Buffalo) and Stabler were brought along old school, waiting a few years before getting a shot at being a starter. Not only that, but they had three future Hall of Famers on the offensive line and were surrounded by the best talent in football. Hostetler, Gannon, Schroeder and Plunkett went into this phase with other teams, with Plunkett only beginning to take the beating which would necessitate him being on ice before being brought back to life as a Raider.
Wilson stands as one of the most maligned quarterbacks in Raiders history. He did, however, finish with a 32-28 record that doesn’t sound nearly as bad amid the backdrop of the last six years.
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October 10th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
I can’t picture Gannon in Minnesota. LOL. Did he play in any pivotal games that might be aired on NFLN or something? I remember him with the Chiefs. Can’t picture him in the purple.
October 10th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
Primero.
October 10th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
The regress part is the most concerning.
My 2 cents on scouting Rusell.
1-He lacks accuracy on all the basic passes.
2-He lacks the movability you need to create time for receivers to get open or to move the chains…
3-He lacks leadership ability, does not get in peoples face, way to mellow.
4-He lacks personal discipline as in studying the ofense & get better on his own time, like a Gannon.
5-His only plus is his arm.
Conclusion:
Not enough plusses in my opinion for him to be any good as a NFL QB. He may win some games in 2 minute drive out of the shotgun, but he may loose a lot too. He is a coach killer.
My sugestion:
Al Davis needs to draft a QB that is smart, scrambler, accurate, and leader. The rest (arm strenght, body build) is baloney for this day and age.
October 10th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
Scrap the zbs and get some horses in there. Smart horses. Hope to see more two te sets as well.
October 10th, 2009 at 12:24 pm
JaMarshmallow is garbage no matter how you slice it. Cable & Davis are handicapping him by sitting Walker.
Just win baby!
October 10th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
MR, I remember Gannon in purple when did you start watching NFL football?
October 10th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
Tennessee just made the most awesome defensive play I’ve seen all f’n year, college or pro. I know you guys don’t like Kiffin but watch the highlights if you get the chance. Dude just came up and knocked the ball right out of the receivers’ hands and another defender caught it in mid air, then there was a couple of funnel shot blocks as they almost ran it back for a TD. Tennessee’s playing physical. We’d be a lot better off if Al had given Kiffin what he wanted, let him bring his dad here as DC. Al had other plans. And, oh, they’re working out, aren’t they?
October 10th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
MistaBrown, I started watching football in the late ’70s. I don’t watch a lot of Minnesota. I remember Culpepper. Not much before him. You got me, dude. I don’t know anything about football because I can’t remember Gannon lighting up the scoreboards in Minnesota. You own me, dude. You win. Seriously.
October 10th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
JT, “scouting” Russell? Are you a scout? Or are you a dude who watches sports on t.v. and takes the hobby just a tad bit too seriously?
October 10th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
MR, I didnt say you didnt know anything about football. I only asked when you started watching football. A guy as brilliant as you I’m sure can read and understand english.
Did you go to the Oakglen school of blogging where you accuse others of things you knowingly didnt take place or when all else fails just start lying?
October 10th, 2009 at 12:38 pm
MistaBrown, you win, dude. It’s over. You schooled me. I didn’t watch Minnesota much in the ’80s, except for the times I was rooting for them to beat the Niners. I never refuted Gannon actually playing there. I just said it would be funny picturing him in a Minnesota uniform. I remember them in the ’80s, remember that Culpepper/moss era, everything else in Minnesota is fuzzy. Didn’t watch the NFL that extensively, just the Raiders, more local teams.
October 10th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
Nation what up???????
October 10th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
MB, I think I might have misspelled a couple of words in there. Jump on it, dude, like a hyena. It’s your blog. You’re the king. Also, I said that I remember the Culpepper Moss era, then said I remember the ’80s, but didn’t put “and” in between, so it could be mistaken as me saying that Culpepper and Moss were there in the ’80s. Jump on that, dude. Win the fight. Be the king of the blog! It’s a cool thing to be, with lots of perks. Women will start flocking to you in real life.
October 10th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
I didnt school you or own you I just asked when you started watching football..lol
FYI…I own priest & his left boob oakglen on a daily basis but I dont even want them.
October 10th, 2009 at 12:47 pm
OK, you’re not picking a fight today, MB? You couldn’t figure out on your own that when I said I couldn’t picture Gannon in a Minnesota uniform, that I merely meant it was a funny visual, considering his more pivotal years were with the Raiders? OK.
October 10th, 2009 at 12:52 pm
No I aint pickin a fight just asked a question..
You of all people should know when a fight is talking place.
October 10th, 2009 at 12:53 pm
*taking place
I have to correct typos in here or Oakglen will be reposting my post for the next 9 weeks.
October 10th, 2009 at 12:55 pm
I have already mentioned this Jerry.
The disturbing part about this coaching staff and team is the why has Russell regressed instead of progressed.
No bueno!
As my dad has said the last 6 years about the Raiders when it comes to his weekly Jackson Casino picks….
I’m not picking the LOUUUUSY RAIDERS!! LOL
Lousy…
October 10th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 8:38 pm
Brien is white, thec. I already know. You’re wasting your time.
October 10th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
Thec07 Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 4th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
Thec, he went to the same church as you in the bay? Yeh. And I’m married to Beyonce. Call it a night, moron.
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Not going to name call you Mr, but yes he went to Palma Ceia in hayward…..
What have you been drinking again?
Try again…
October 10th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
JT Says:
October 10th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
The regress part is the most concerning.
My 2 cents on scouting Rusell.
1-He lacks accuracy on all the basic passes.
2-He lacks the movability you need to create time for receivers to get open or to move the chains…
3-He lacks leadership ability, does not get in peoples face, way to mellow.
4-He lacks personal discipline as in studying the ofense & get better on his own time, like a Gannon.
5-His only plus is his arm.
Conclusion:
Not enough plusses in my opinion for him to be any good as a NFL QB. He may win some games in 2 minute drive out of the shotgun, but he may loose a lot too. He is a coach killer.
My sugestion:
Al Davis needs to draft a QB that is smart, scrambler, accurate, and leader. The rest (arm strenght, body build) is baloney for this day and age.
^^^^^^^Yep! The regressing is the most disturbing thing….but I think the forcing of the deep passes and play calling has hurt him a bit also.
Cable should NOT have changed terminology on the passing game from last years play book….IF they did which I think occurred.
It all starts with conditioning for Russell.
Coach Cable needs to get on his ass every day to train and lose weight and get him down to 250. Once he loses weight and gets in better shape….he will more mobile and have better footwork like he did in college.
October 10th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
LOUSY Raiders!! LOL
October 10th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
sup nation?? thec dude what do ya think our chances are sunday??? I say 40-60…
October 10th, 2009 at 1:16 pm
$08, what up Bro? If our oline was healed i would say any given sunday, but the way our O looks, we will be lucky to score….
October 10th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
408 <——– =$$$$$
I meant 408 not $08
October 10th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
gotta go will be back ltr…
October 10th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
Yawn.
Just put the ball in the end zone ALOT.
October 10th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
27-9
LOUSY RAIDERS!! LOL
October 10th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
LOUSY AL DAVIS!! LOL!
I wish us fans had a stake in the team like how the Packer fans have a stake in the Packers.
October 10th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
lets be realistic . ok . raiders beat kansas city/ shoulda san diego. got whipped by an undefeated denver . whiped by houston . ok . why jump off a bridge now? giants may be best team in nfc, so what do we expect tomorrow? we can win . only if the recievers use their supr speed and get open . offense coordinators should take reigns off russell. just let em chuck it . hell what we got 2 lose now ? just open op . 4 wide reciever shotguns all game/. da pats do it .. run sum wildcat. we got 2 best wildcat rbs in league. .. open up offense stay in shotgun all day . invent new nfl spread o . sh – t
October 10th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
Mista
your reputation proceeds you, Good job.
You have them rolling over and exposing their bellies before you even bark.
October 10th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
“You’ve all seen the comparisons between Raiders quarterback JaMarcus Russell and other quarterbacks taken No. 1 in the draft through their first 16 games, which served as statistical evidence that it is too early to call him a bust”
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Really, Jerry? It’s too early to call him a bust? His numbers are comparable, if not worse, than David Carr’s. Are you telling me that David Carr isn’t a bust? And, if you want to compare him to Manning, do yourself a favor, don’t do it. There are immeasurable qualities to consider here. Like work ethic, football IQ, and just flat out passion for the game. When Eli was struggling, I never saw him laugh it up with his teammates while the Giants were getting destroyed. I never saw him overweight. I never saw ignoring a coach after he did something stupid on the field. And, most importantly, I never saw him regress. At this point, I’d say JaTrainwreck is a bigger bust than Alex Smith. Smith didn’t fail because of attitude. He just wasn’t talented enough. Bustle has all the talent in the world. And what has he done with it? When we drafted him, I thought he would redefine the position. What happened was, he became the textbook definition of the word B-U-S-T. bust…Bust…BUst…BUSt…BUST!!!! If history proves me wrong, I’ll come on this board and admit it. But, I think I’ve seen enough.
October 10th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
Russell has his best game as a Raider tomorrow proving all the haters here and elsewhere wrong. Raiders play their best game of this season tomorrow. Cable calls his best game. Bush runs for over a hundred and scores twice. The d plays better that we did in the SD game. final result raiders 27 Giants 17 … You heard it here first. You can praise me after the game. I’ll be waiting…
October 10th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
u want an identity ? be the team that stays in a run and shoot scheme all game. defenses will hate it . and u can run no huddle lik ethat . when 4 recievers run out . giive them each 4 routes to run,, run no huddle and mix up in the huddle an dat the line. this will get the defense tired and dhb will be able 2 eventually break one because hes so young ad young guys have more stamina . bush and dmac can catch really great so they can recieve out the backfield. zach miller will be the 4th reciever . put dhb in slot . hell be like az hakim was with the rams.. start javon walker and urphy on outsides. sub with jlh and chaz on outsides.. this offense wouldnt be so complicated for the moron jruss.
October 10th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
Next week we start to get some starters back. We win that too although I haven’t figured out the final score yet. Again you heard it here first… Looking forward to the infield being gone and having a real field for a change.
October 10th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
The 1st 16 games comparison is good stuff. But just 4 games is too short a time to make a meaningful comparison. If there was a comparison of the 1st 20 games, JR is still going to come in dead last.
October 10th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
im rooting against chris carters son who is a starting wide reciever 4 the ohio state buckeyes. i see he just dropped a pass. hope he gets drafted in the 1st round. lol
October 10th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
Otto you’ve seen enough then go away. I’ll just sit here and sip the koolaid. man that’s some mighty fine stuff…!
October 10th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
Folks…all the analysis that Jerry has done just shows that we have to watch this thing play out. Period.
You have to develop a QB to win in this league. That’s why every franchise tries to do it. Its actually harder to win games with a retread QB. In fact, its teh retreads that lull you to sleep. Play just good enough to be mediocre (read average) but NEVER can aspire to greatness.
QBs with the build of physical characteristics and some college success are always going to get the shot.
Who the hell cares if you go 7-9 for 3 consecutive seasons…sprinkled in with maybe a 10-6…that retread will regress and you will be starting over.
The sideways QB types…Pennington, Delhomme, Gannon, Kitna, Orton and all of those Gruden QBs…are pretty accurate and limit mistakes and can have a nice season here and there…but they can’t win the big one. A lot of 8-8 type seasons.
Of course there are the reclamation projects…Collins, Grossman, Bledsoe and company that get a little better with age, but still make mistakes that prevent them from big time success.
Look, I would rather they stick with this kid this year and try and get him on the right track…then to throw up the white flag and watch Gradkowski this year or JP Losman next year frustrate us to 7-9.
The GREAT teams….those that win for several years or even for a decade…all develop long-term solutions at the QB position.
The flash in the pans (early 2000 Raiders, 2008 Cardinals, 2008 Titans and others) will get you a couple of good years…then a drastic rebuilding once the vet QB retires or regresses. I want 10 yrs of winning…not this 2 or 3 yrs here and there B.S.
Last 25 yrs and the Raiders have only a spot couple of years of decent football. Look no further than its QB and Coach strategy
October 10th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
# Mistabrown Says:
October 10th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
I didnt school you or own you I just asked when you started watching football..lol
FYI…I own priest & his left boob oakglen on a daily basis but I dont even want them.
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You do what now??? You school who??? The reality is you run like a woman. And who is this Warkins guy you keep harking about??
October 10th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
For us to compete and try to win tomorrow, we will need a big game from the D-line.
Let’s not forget that Ellis has played the Gints twice a year every year and should be comfortable and looking to kick some tail. The last time Seymour played the Giants, he was on the losing end of maybe his toughest loss as a pro in the Super Bowl. He should be hyped to inact some sort of personel revenge.
Still predicting a good game, and the line has gone down a little to +15.
October 10th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
Mrs.
Please dont get started with Kitten again. I thought you didnt want to takl about Kitten anymore. The bum has a 1-2 recor vs the SEC and 1-3 vs any legit div 1 team. Please stop your bs worship. Everytime you mention that punk I will kick your a$$ on here. He hasnt won crap. You dig?
October 10th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
For us to win tomorrow we need a complete game from offense, defense and special teams. We have to start fast, jump on top of them, and we CANNOT turn the ball over. If the Raiders can take a lead, we can limit their ability to just pound the rock at us, and make a beaten up Eli beat us.
October 10th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
the defense will need to score points to have a chance at winning this game….would love to see Russell and the offense score the points necessary…..but they won’t.
October 10th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
LOUSY RAIDERS!! LOL
My dad is a crack up!
October 10th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
The Real MaddenRaider
Im just a dude watching the raiders over the last 20 years plus or minus.
I think the points I made about rusell are pretty accurate dont you think?
Or whats your asessmente of his skills?
October 10th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
No More Infield or Trolls Says:
October 10th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
Russell has his best game as a Raider tomorrow proving all the haters here and elsewhere wrong. Raiders play their best game of this season tomorrow. Cable calls his best game. Bush runs for over a hundred and scores twice. The d plays better that we did in the SD game. final result raiders 27 Giants 17 … You heard it here first. You can praise me after the game. I’ll be waiting…
^^^^^^^Hope it happens….but I doubt it will….
October 10th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
JT Says:
October 10th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
The regress part is the most concerning.
My 2 cents on scouting Rusell.
1-He lacks accuracy on all the basic passes.
2-He lacks the movability you need to create time for receivers to get open or to move the chains…
3-He lacks leadership ability, does not get in peoples face, way to mellow.
4-He lacks personal discipline as in studying the ofense & get better on his own time, like a Gannon.
5-His only plus is his arm.
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I will comment on this JT.
1) He has been lacking on some throws. Most of his deep seam routes have been right on the money.
2) I completely disagree with you about his mobility. Some of the biggest plays he has made as a Raider, including his very first TD pass, were the result of him moving in the pocket. In fact, one of the things that kiffin had him doing, that he did well, was throw on the run. Why Cable is not doing that, I have no idea.
3) I think one of the biggest criticisms of Russell is he is not like some “fans” want him to be. Well, it is irrelevant how you want him to be, he is who he is. To say he does not have leadership abilities when he has brought his team back at the end of four of his last six games is kind of short sighted.
4) I think we would ALL want to see him put more time in, and take more responsibility for the team. But in all honesty, that might be the biggest criticism I have of the ENTIRE debacle here. Until we see ALL the players taking some sort of ownership of what happens on the field, this debacle will continue.
October 10th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
No it’s going to happen just as I am predicting. look for TE Meyers to get in on it too.
BTW – it’s a homecoming of sorts for Bush. he will have a great game in front of his fam and friends…
October 10th, 2009 at 2:48 pm
408RAIDER Says:
October 10th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
sup nation?? thec dude what do ya think our chances are sunday??? I say 40-60…
NO OFFENSE BRO BUT WE HAVE ABOUT A SNOWBALLS CHANCE IN HELL
October 10th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
http://www.csnbayarea.com/pages/albee
October 10th, 2009 at 3:23 pm
guys i see alot of positive thinking about the giants game tommorow i was in orlando on vacation for a week did i miss something the giants r a better team then us in every aspect im going to the game tommorow so i hope im wrong but the giants r beating teams easily and were getting our butts kicked
October 10th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
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October 10th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
I’m telling you that we match up well with these guys. Laugh if you must but tomorrows game will be a turning point for this team. I am seeing two signifiact wins in a row against two good teams. Actually I think Philly is not as goodas their record indicates.
I want to see Ellis and Seymour stay at their DE spots. Don’t move em around so much.
October 10th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
I like my Kool aid with a little Captain Morgan. How about you guys?
October 10th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
Oakglenn Says:
October 10th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
JT Says:
My 2 cents on scouting Rusell.
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I will comment on this JT.
1) He has been lacking on some throws. Most of his deep seam routes have been right on the money.
RICHOCHET: idiot Oakdork..he can’t hit water from a boat on his deep seam routes. On most of them they’re not near ANYONE..offense or defense.
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2) I completely disagree with you about his mobility. Some of the biggest plays he has made as a Raider, including his very first TD pass, were the result of him moving in the pocket. In fact, one of the things that kiffin had him doing, that he did well, was throw on the run. Why Cable is not doing that, I have no idea.
RICHOCHET: oh geez..THE GUY IS ABOUT AS MOBILE AS A SLUG..he’s like a lumbering walrus. Has NO mobility. Can’t escape a pass rush if his life depended on it. Because he rolled out of the pocket DOESN’T MEAN HE’S MOBILE, moron. No doubt your fatass considers anything past walking as being “MOBILE”, but in the NFL, he’s the least mobile qb IN THE LEAGUE.
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3) I think one of the biggest criticisms of Russell is he is not like some “fans” want him to be. Well, it is irrelevant how you want him to be, he is who he is.
RICHOCHET: Wrong DUMBASS. When you pay good money to watch the team play it’s very relevant that you would like the qb to be in shape, to work out, to do his best, to WANT to try harder, to GIVE YOU A GOOD RETURN ON YOUR MONEY. It’s relevant as hell, you idiot. Most just want him to do THE BASICS..and he can’t even step up and do that. Your a freaking moron to state “He is who he is”. Of course, you also stated he was a guaranteed star. You’re not doing too well, are you? lol.
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To say he does not have leadership abilities when he has brought his team back at the end of four of his last six games is kind of short sighted.
RICHOCHET: oh gawd…shut up. The Raiders have lost 3 of the last 4. THERE IS NOT A SINGLE PERSON ON THE RAIDERS who states, or believes Russell is leading ANYTHING. Russell stood MEEKLY behind Ellis, as a DEFENSIVE PLAYER called the OFFENSE AROUND HIM TO GIVE THEM A PEP TALK. Russell?? He looked like he always does..lost..slow..not interested..and fat.
Like I said, I KNOW IT STINGS that you made your idiot prediction for Russell…but now, you’re just looking more and more pathetic.
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4) I think we would ALL want to see him put more time in, and take more responsibility for the team. But in all honesty, that might be the biggest criticism I have of the ENTIRE debacle here. Until we see ALL the players taking some sort of ownership of what happens on the field, this debacle will continue.
RICHOCHET: ahhh..the “ENTIRE” debacle? Not Russell? But EVERYONE?? lol…dumbass..spineless little meek dumbass. I don’t see Cable telling the REST OF THE TEAM they’re not doing the extra. Not doing what they SHOULD be doing. He’s just talking about Russell.
Same with Kiffin. It’s Russell who’s taking no responsibility, and it’s Russell who he stated has to put in extra time.
Now, You know..I KNOW…hell EVERYONE KNOWS your ignorant ass will have nothing to say except something silly, stupid, and inept in reply.
What could you say?
Hell, I’m still LMFAO at your dumb “Montana and Elway never showed any emotion when they played.”
October 10th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
wrong rack-o. But then again if you are ever right about anything that will be the first time. Take up horticulture. Maybe you can get that right.
October 10th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
rack-o no one reads your romance novels because they are poorly written like a hysterical nine year old with an anger problem wrote it, and they have NO BASIS in reality. Remember your classic quote about Gurden seen flipping off the owners box when he was leaving the field at the Coliseum??? Of course there are only 15,000 cameras at those games and shockingly NOT ONE caught that scene. It’s time rack-o to take your meds.
October 10th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
Oakglenn Says:
October 10th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
wrong rack-o. But then again if you are ever right about anything that will be the first time. Take up horticulture. Maybe you can get that right.
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I love torching your idiot takes, then watch you reduced to accepting the fact you have zero in reply.
You are aware that when you post retorts, such as above, that everyone knows you just got slapped down, and that you just meekly accept it?
October 10th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
#54 No More
I second that motion. Giants have not played very well at home lately. If we play as hard as we did against the Chargers we will win.
October 10th, 2009 at 4:56 pm
Third; No More Troll & Plunketthead are correct;
when we play smash mouth football we have the talent to dominate our CBs Mr. Asomugha & Mr. Johnson are better than the Giants WRs, in fact they are the best DBs Eli & Co. have faced yet to date.
We need to attack them with our running game, not just pass on 1st down then predictably run on 2nd & long like we always do, psst… Jerry Mac that is why our running game has been ineffective we telegraph it as well as teams put 7-9 in a box.
We need to run, run, and run again, put their defense on the field, shorten the game, just win the game.
Mr. Seymour, Mr. Ellis, and our DTs need to put pressure on whomever is qb for the Giants!
We are not going to score 35 points but our D with help from the O can keep them from scoring any!
October 10th, 2009 at 5:10 pm
LMAO
I have no idea what point you’re trying to make but its funny!
# Plunketthead Says:
October 10th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
Mista
your reputation proceeds you, Good job.
You have them rolling over and exposing their bellies before you even bark.
October 10th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
Come On Rack-ette you’re a joke here. get ready for your daily beat down!
Lie:RICHOCHET: he can’t hit water from a boat on his deep seam routes. On most of them they’re not near ANYONE..offense or defense.
Fact: Russell was the third highest rated passer in the nation his junior year and has games where he has completed over 65% of his passes. He has shown accuracy, once he develops a history with his receivers e.g. Miller and Shilens
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Lie: RICHOCHET: oh geez..THE GUY IS ABOUT AS MOBILE AS A SLUG..he’s like a lumbering walrus. Has NO mobility. Because he rolled out of the pocket DOESN’T MEAN HE’S MOBILE, moron. No doubt your fatass considers anything past walking as being “MOBILE”, but in the NFL, he’s the least mobile qb IN THE LEAGUE.
Fact: Right now, Russell has more rushing yards than Cutler. And Cutler is considered a very mobile QB. Because he can roll out DOES NOT MEAN he’s mobile?? Then what the hell does it mean you moron?? So, Kerry Collins, Brady, Peyton, Orton, and Warner are all more mobile than Russell??? That comment might be the dummest ever put on this blog and THAT is saying something. Your cred is gone here rack-=ette
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Lie: RICHOCHET: Wrong DUMBASS. When you pay good money to watch the team play it’s very relevant that you would like the qb to be in shape, to work out, to do his best, to WANT to try harder, to GIVE YOU A GOOD RETURN ON YOUR MONEY.
Fact: You completely missed the point on this. But then you miss basically everything. Read it again.
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Lie: RICHOCHET: The Raiders have lost 3 of the last 4. THERE IS NOT A SINGLE PERSON ON THE RAIDERS who states, or believes Russell is leading ANYTHING. Russell stood MEEKLY behind Ellis, as a DEFENSIVE PLAYER called the OFFENSE AROUND HIM TO GIVE THEM A PEP TALK. Russell??
Fact: What a stupid statement. When Russell walked off the field in half those games, he was leading. The team HAS rallied around Russell and they publicly state that. When Singletary called out his entire team their first week, where the hell was Willis?? Or Hill?? They were standing meekly by. You could say the same thing about the ENTIRE WHINER TEAM.
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Lie: RICHOCHET: ahhh..the “ENTIRE” debacle? Not Russell? But EVERYONE?? lol…dumbass..spineless little meek dumbass. I don’t see Cable telling the REST OF THE TEAM they’re not doing the extra. Not doing what they SHOULD be doing. He’s just talking about Russell.
Fact: Cable just spent THE ENTIRE WEEK working with the real leaders of the team, THE OFFENSIVE LINEMEN. The ST coach called out his unit for blowing that game. But according to rack-ette the real reason Houston returned a punt for a TD last week, was because of Jamarcus Russell. This is almost too easy. Rack-o you once again have proven you know nothing about nothing. Bye rack-ette. BYE.
October 10th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
My point was MR didnt want to mess with you. He was filling his topsiders at the mere thought of Brown going gangster on him,
October 10th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
Ok Plunk..lmao
I wasnt tryin to mess with him either I was just wondering how long he’s been watching football, it was an honest question I dont know why he took offense.
October 10th, 2009 at 5:29 pm
And here we have tj’s left tit having a riddalen moment with his best friend Richochet.
Get yourself some help man. Or just go pet your cat..
October 10th, 2009 at 5:32 pm
Plunket watch this. All it takes is one little poke and this riddalen deprived monkey goes ape sh!t.
October 10th, 2009 at 5:33 pm
Oakglenn Says:
June 8th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
Anyone with half a brain can see that Jamarcus Russell is a bonafide franchise Q.
October 10th, 2009 at 5:44 pm
I was here two years ago when you and oak first got into it.
I try not to take side and I try real hard not to say anything too stupid.
October 10th, 2009 at 5:53 pm
Someone who thinks he knows football as much as MR and can’t even remember Gannon with the vikes….fits all his posts as know- nothing
October 10th, 2009 at 5:53 pm
I miss the good ol days when it was no rules allowed knock down brawl.
1,000 posts overnight.
Oh well all things must come to an end………….
and that includes the pissants 4 game winning streak,
October 10th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
Vegas I like your way of thinking.
I am gonna make it to Vegas for a game at the Hilton real soon.
October 10th, 2009 at 6:24 pm
I’ve said it a few times, and I am going to say it again.
Raiders win or come real close to winning tomorrow. It will give us hope, and lure us back in.
And than they lay a giant egg at home against the Eagles. We have all seen it plenty of times before.
I don’t see Eli finishing the game either and DHB will get a TD. He is due, to say the least.
October 10th, 2009 at 6:28 pm
And for all the “Draft Tim Tebow” guys, Mel Kiper on ESPN radio today said he has talked to some NFL exec’s, and he is a 3rd round, MAYBE 2ND, guy as a TE or HB, Chris Cooley type.
He is not an NFL QB and won’t be drafted as one.
Don’t kill the messenger.
October 10th, 2009 at 6:29 pm
Plunket,
I will gladly meet you there. Best way to watch NFL football.
Your old-town misses you.
October 10th, 2009 at 6:30 pm
I like the Bradshaw comparision, but Terry was benched and had to earn back his starting job back. He experienced all his success after that. We should have given Jamarcus the same wake-up call and benched him in the second half of the Denver game.
We have coddled him way too much. 1970’s football didn’t coddle players like they do today.
October 10th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
Great read 16 yr fan.Thanks. That link as well as Jerry’s post back up what I was trying to say the other night about 20 starts being way too early to call JR a bust.I compared him to a young Elway for his raw physical skills and Stabler for his laid back southern demeanor and unflappability. But the Bradshaw comparison might even be more appropriate. I know Russell can play at the NFL level because he showed he could the last six games of last year.He should get the rest of this season to play himself out of this early season funk. He should also get another offseason for the org. to rebuild the offensive line infront of him, and to get in synch with the other young skill pos. players around him. If he’s still struggling at this point next year, then it would be fair to wonder if he’s ever going to get it, and start throwing the bust label around.IMO.
October 10th, 2009 at 7:02 pm
I am sitting in a crappy little hotel in Cheyenne, Wyoming right now…left a day early for the Bronco-Pats game because of a friggin Oct snow storm.
Goooooo Lakers!
October 10th, 2009 at 7:05 pm
I believe it’s imperative that the Raiders find out if Barnes can make the switch to right tackle. He was a pretty promising young player in Jax before he got into some legal trouble. Henderson appears to have LT on lockdown. Gallery has salvaged his career at LG after having been declared a bust, and is playing at or near pro-bowl level pre injury. But after that it’s wide open. Cooper Carlisle was a nice pickup from Denver a few years ago. Proficient in Cable’s ZBS. But I would describe his play as serviceable, and serviceable isn’t going to get this team where it wants to go. Greenes penchant for false starts is killing this offense. You cannot consistently turn 3rd and 2’s into 3rd and sevens, and 3rd and sevens into 3rd and twelves. This offense simply cannot overcome that. If Barnes can’t cut it, RT has to be looked at early in next years draft.
October 10th, 2009 at 7:06 pm
I was trying to muster up some sympathy for you, I tried a few different ways but it cant be done.
October 10th, 2009 at 7:13 pm
Once he rejoined the Raiders organization, Davis ruthlessly attempted to gain power within the club. In 1972, with Wayne Valley out of the country for several weeks attending the Olympic Games in Munich, Davis’s attorneys drafted a revised partnership agreement that gave him total control over all of the Raiders’ operations. McGah, a supporter of Davis, signed the agreement. Under partnership law, by a 2–1 vote of the general partners, the new agreement was thus ratified. Valley was furious when he discovered this, and immediately filed suit to have the new agreement overturned, but the court sided with Davis and McGah. In January 1976, Valley sold his interest in the team, and Davis — who now owned only 25 percent of the Raiders — was firmly in charge
When the Bekins trucks backed up to raider central to load up for LA, a reporter said to Al:
‘You know you’re really breaking a lot of Raider fans hearts by leaving? These are the same fans who sold out the stadium for every game, even when the Raiders weren’t winning. Many believe you’re taking their team away from them.”
Al’s reply? “I don’t care what they say. It’s not their team, it’s my team. I’ll do what I want with my team.”
The Raiders amassed fewer than 200 yards in each of the past three games. That marks the first time since the AFL-NFL merger in 1970 that the Raiders have failed to reach the 200-yard mark in three straight games.
October 10th, 2009 at 7:14 pm
Has Cable been fired yet!!
Fire Cable!! He is a Moron!!
The ship is sinking!! Save yourselves!!
Sacrifice Cable to the NFL Gods, or throw him in the bay!!
October 10th, 2009 at 7:18 pm
Dakota Says:
October 10th, 2009 at 7:02 pm
I am sitting in a crappy little hotel in Cheyenne, Wyoming right now…left a day early for the Bronco-Pats game because of a friggin Oct snow storm.
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Global Warming at it again.
October 10th, 2009 at 7:19 pm
This FSU-Georgia Tech game might end up 63-56. 21-21 and they just started the 2nd Q!!!!
October 10th, 2009 at 7:23 pm
Lots of exclamation points there Raider O!!!!!
I think it is smoke and relax time, no?
October 10th, 2009 at 7:23 pm
“Draft Football players, and stop drafting based on speed only!!”
And start drafting linemen in the first round.
October 10th, 2009 at 7:26 pm
Fire Cable!!
Fire Marshall!!
Fire the Oline Coach!
Fire the WRs Coach!
Fire the LBs Coach!
Hire a GM, or a coach with exp as a HC in the NFL.
Draft Football players, and stop drafting based on speed only!!
FU Cable!! I want to punch your Jaw!!
October 10th, 2009 at 7:32 pm
I for one, am willing to see J. Russell through this low point. It’s not comming easy for him like Kenney Stabler who was a natural. But If he has the will it will come to him. We will see.
I was really young wen Marc Wilson played… mmm the pain. I didn’t realize he won that many games, but he was surrounded with good talent. I believe Russel will get better, not in time for this season. The O line has to get better too.
October 10th, 2009 at 7:34 pm
O,
To quote Bill Clinton “I feel your pain”.Unlike Clinton I did inhale. Although I quit smoking many yraears ago
October 10th, 2009 at 7:35 pm
Vegas,
You read my mind.
It’s purple time!
October 10th, 2009 at 7:39 pm
Go Buckeyes! THE Ohio State University!
Dude, I inhale as much as I can, and I love it. God Bless America.
October 10th, 2009 at 7:41 pm
O,
To quote Bill Clinton “I feel your pain”. Unlike Clinton I did inhale. Although I quit smoking years ago, I agree with you O. LEGALIZE IT. However, I respectfully disagree with you on the fire Cable front. I feel that would be disasterous. How could it get worse than it is now? right. I think the continous coaching carousel is a major factor in the mess the Raiders are in now. This is a young team in need of some stability. They are going through some major growing pains. I think the players like Cable, and for the most part play hard for him. We are only four games into this season. I am hoping to see some serious signs of improvement.Have another glass of Koolaid, maybe with a double shot chaser.
October 10th, 2009 at 7:45 pm
JR is not playing well, but I don’t think he is the problem. It’s more than one player.
2 rookie WRs starting.
Bad Oline.
Bad Coaching.
Lack of great talent in our front 7.
Bad Management.
Injured starters: Chaz & Gallery.
October 10th, 2009 at 7:45 pm
On a side note the Lakers got their a$$es handed to them by the Warriors last night.
Isn’t that right Dakota?
October 10th, 2009 at 7:48 pm
Also bad attitude. Look at the Dischargers Game, and then look at the next 3 games.
Is coaching, attitude, or all of the above?
October 10th, 2009 at 7:52 pm
If by Phase II you mean football, then yes, its a problem for Russell.
October 10th, 2009 at 7:52 pm
Buckeye,
I want stability at coaching too, it is great for players, but if the coaching staff is subpar, does it matter how long they stay?
October 10th, 2009 at 7:59 pm
I agree with O, maybe not in actually firing Cable, but if coaching is sub-par, just move on.
I can’t figure out who is worse Raiders or UNLV football. The Rebels are PA-THE-TIC.
Good night folks, got to get my Sat night going, I will catch you in the AM.
October 10th, 2009 at 8:08 pm
what a joke to take a 4 game stretch of a QBs career and try to project how good he will be…come on….
October 10th, 2009 at 8:12 pm
RaiderDogg Says:
October 10th, 2009 at 7:45 pm
On a side note the Lakers got their a$$es handed to them by the Warriors last night.
Isn’t that right Dakota?
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2nd game of the preseason.
October 10th, 2009 at 8:12 pm
Jerry, you are NUTS!! completely NUTS!! you take a 3 game window in someones career and make statement of it. At seasons end why don’t we take the 3 best games of the year forRussell and mae a comparison.
This is the single DUMBEST blog you’ve ever done. And you did it to make this kid look as badsyou possibly could. You didn’t factor in all the drops this past 2 games. Or a robbed TD that was caught.
My qyestion is what did it serve to make this cmparison at this point and time. Wait I’ll answer that…….because you know you may never get the chance again to make Russell look this bad.
And that is all you want a has been all you’ve ever tried to do is make this kid look as bad as you possibly can. We all know that Russell has hit bottom and must perform from thispoint forward. But IME the last game stats were in no way representative of how Russell played…..AND YOU KNOW THIS!!
So you cooked up this comparison in haste to put a stamp on these past 4 games. No matter how you put it Elway strted 4 yea under some of thebest passing game coaches at Stanford and played in a prostyle offense. Russell started 2 1/2 years in a spread offense and was one of the top rated passers in SEC history. Elway had the sme coach all his 1st 3 years and the same OC and the same players. Russell has had NONE of that.
But Russell has to do the job to prove what an idiot you are a I’m quite confident that he will. The past 2 games Russell has played well with no one to help him look good. But soon that will change. As these young WR’s start to get better and Chaz returns and the running game gets going so will this team and Russell’s stats. Soon enough the surroundings will stat to look more and more familiar to this young QB and then the star wars will commence.
What will you say when the do? how will you hate then? Wha will you sa about him than……..Oh! I know he’s fat and black. Problem is how to word it.
October 10th, 2009 at 8:14 pm
O,
Hackett’s a respected NFL coach. Gannon certainly thinks highly of him. Marshall was the DC of a superbowl team a couple of seasons ago. Everyone is disgusted with the way this season has started, myself included. When things are going bad, the HC and the QB bear the brunt of most of the criticism. I remember reading this blog over the summer and everyone was praising Cable for the way he handled tragedy. Even Madden was called an Al Davis puppet. Have you seen the excellent NFL films Americas Game on the 76 Raiders? A reporter even addressed him as Al. I like Cable’s aggressiveness. Everybody lampooned him for that fake punt against KC last year. And Rightfully so, expecting Fatakowski to ramble for 12 yards. However if G Wilson holds onto a late game Int, they still win that game. He also called a well executed fake punt that was instrumental in beating the Jets, and onside kick that helped beat a hot Texans team last year. So Basically He’s 2 for 3.He’s still learning on the job as an NFL HC as well.
October 10th, 2009 at 8:17 pm
Latest rumor from Als Island of Doom is that Cable is as good as gone…………….
October 10th, 2009 at 8:18 pm
RaiderNsuede Says:
October 10th, 2009 at 8:12 pm
RaiderDogg Says:
October 10th, 2009 at 7:45 pm
On a side note the Lakers got their a$$es handed to them by the Warriors last night.
Isn’t that right Dakota?
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2nd game of the preseason.
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You might want to take that suede off, looks like rain
October 10th, 2009 at 8:19 pm
Fake FG, sorry.
October 10th, 2009 at 8:23 pm
Buckeye,
I understand what you are saying, Amd I thought Cable was a descent HC. I wanted Gilbride, but I was happy with Cable. I remember telling BHP that I’m not sure Cable is a good Xs & Os type of coach, and that I didn’t like his play calling. So far he’s proving me right.
October 10th, 2009 at 8:36 pm
In times of utter hopelessness and despair, people are overcome by exaggerated optimism and hope.
Any given Sunday, sure. But if the Giants don’t beat the Raiders by 20+ points, even with David Carr, and Russell continuing to regress, then it’ll be a miracle.
We’re all tired of the circus.
October 10th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
of to bed 1130 on the east coast headed to east rutherford in the morning to watch our beloved raiders get their asses kicked all over the field i hope im wrong but im fearing our worst beating of the year
October 10th, 2009 at 8:40 pm
GG,
I don’t know about anybody else, but I’m not at all optimistic about tomorrows game.This patchwork O-line against the Giants deep, talented front is a recipe for disaster.I just hope the team comes out and plays hard, and doesn’t embarrass itself, or it’s fans. Anything more than that would be icing on the cake.
October 10th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
Also I hate the completion % thing, because it is too subjective. Russell could complete a much higher % if he just cecks the ball down all day long like Pennington. I’ll take thecompletion % if they are comparing apples for apples. In other words if you throw 10 15/yard outs how many cayou complete against Nnamdi. If you throw 5 deep post patterns how many can each QB complete vs the Ravens and Ed Reed.
Competion % is stupid when you comparing on QB who’s running on offense and another running an aggressive verticle offense. Who’s probably going to look worse? Of course it’s the guy playing in the more aggressive offense and then what teams did the play against.
This Phase II comparison takes NONE of that into account it’s just a BLIND comparison construed to make a certain player look bad. Because anyone with half a brain knows that Russell’s stats if compared to his previous 4 games at the end of last year would pale in comparison. So what really was the objective?? It is almost HATEFUL in nature.
October 10th, 2009 at 8:43 pm
worst beating of the year “to date”.
there’s potential for bigger beat downs in the schedule ahead, and continuing turmoil—russell regressing, cable assault, players mailing it in, and davis not doing enough to fix the OL.
October 10th, 2009 at 8:48 pm
Goodnight all.
October 10th, 2009 at 8:54 pm
Raider O, X’s and O’s is not Cable’s problem it’s trying to be tooo cute with his playcalling in the most adverse of circumstances. He needs to stop the crap and run the damn ball with MBush and play off that. The 49rs are doing exactly what we should be doing……………period and we have a better team than they do to do it with.
October 10th, 2009 at 8:55 pm
Russell doesn’t need others to make him look bad,he does a good job of that all by himself.come on Priest,he hasn’t looked good the last two games.out of the so called nine drops last game,at least 4 would have been miraculous catches.while it can’t be said Russell is a bust yet,it cannot also be said he is playing ok.i,for one am getting pretty sick of all the excuses people keep making for him.he has to start producing,plain and simple.i am also getting sick of people who don’t know squat about football blaming Cable.his hands are tied-his QB doesn’t know the playbook and he is playing young,inexperienced players at the skill positions.
October 10th, 2009 at 8:56 pm
Buckeyeraider…
For sure, bro. Our patchwork OL is going to get killed. In fact, it could be a ‘godsend’ having Russell end up with a season-ending injury and the more efficient Gradkowski steps in for the rest of the year, resulting in wins, due to an actual efficient offense now, 3rd down conversions, drives kept alive, completion percentage, and his familiarity with Hackett.
The biggest criticism of Davis i have is that he has not at all addressed the OL in all this time. From the woes of the 2006 season, thru to now, the ruination of Walter and desire to waste a pick on a “big arm” (russell). And that OL neglect continues. He’s drafted who? Henderson only. One player isnt going to fix it, while you throw away 50 picks on DBs and WRs. You need to draft like 3 or 4 linemen a season, so that they can push the starters and/or replace them, thus lifting the standard of the OL.
The OL is a high-maintence thing, requiring constant attention every season. Davis should be pulling out all stops to acquire via trade some good OLmen from somewhere, bringing in undrafted rookie OLmen, and also putting Cable back where he belongs—as OL coach.
October 10th, 2009 at 8:59 pm
priesttj Says:
October 10th, 2009 at 9:00 pm
GG, If I’m the Raiderswhile wuld love to win this game. My main objective would be to just get better at the basic stuff on offense. Just get therunning game going with Bush and Fargas. Getthe basic playaction setup, just systematically get more fundamental in everything we do. Make the sure we are sarting to get on the same page in the passing game.
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This is what training camp and preseason is for. The Raiders should not be working on fundamentals in the 5th game of the season. They should be concentrating on beating the team in front of them.
How many seasons do they need to work on fundamentals? This is the same crap I heard for 8 weeks last year. This year should have been different. Instead, its just more of the same.
October 10th, 2009 at 9:00 pm
GG, If I’m the Raiderswhile wuld love to win this game. My main objective would be to just get better at the basic stuff on offense. Just get therunning game going with Bush and Fargas. Getthe basic playaction setup, just systematically get more fundamental in everything we do. Make the sure we are sarting to get on the same page in the passing game. If the can just do those basic things over the next 4 games andthen go into the bye an work on more fundamentals. The wins will come just based on that alone.
October 10th, 2009 at 9:00 pm
This blog is stupid…
# Raider75 Says:
October 10th, 2009 at 8:59 pm
priesttj Says:
October 10th, 2009 at 9:00 pm
GG, If I’m the Raiderswhile wuld love to win this game. My main objective would be to just get better at the basic stuff on offense. Just get therunning game going with Bush and Fargas. Getthe basic playaction setup, just systematically get more fundamental in everything we do. Make the sure we are sarting to get on the same page in the passing game.
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This is what training camp and preseason is for. The Raiders should not be working on fundamentals in the 5th game of the season. They should be concentrating on beating the team in front of them.
How many seasons do they need to work on fundamentals? This is the same crap I heard for 8 weeks last year. This year should have been different. Instead, its just more of the same.
October 10th, 2009 at 9:01 pm
Niners success is really due to great coaching by Singletary. I can’t stand the NIners, but gotta give Singletary his due. Seeing on NFL Films how he leads the entire team, organization, barking, giving words of wisdom etc, and his reputation demands itself, players listen, respect him.
Instead, we have Cable who is all talk. If you listen to his post-game garbage, he’s seriously deluded, or a shill, or both. But he is always trying to play spin-doctor instead of being a commanding figurehead and teacher.
October 10th, 2009 at 9:05 pm
Priesttj…
The basics. We’re not doing them well. Coaching is one half the problem. The players (either talent level or committment) the other half. But all this basics stuff is what camp was for. It’s terrible that the Raiders are still trying to fix the basics in week 5. It’s a circus.
But yes, we should be running the ball, and Russell managing it, if he could only progress rather than regress and actually put the work in.
Why Gradkowski would be a far better option at QB, just someone to manage the game, pick up a few 5 and 8 yard pass chunks, keep drives alive.
We also cant run the ball because the OL talent level and OL coaching is a shambles.
October 10th, 2009 at 9:06 pm
Good night Gents.
October 10th, 2009 at 9:07 pm
GG, stop it!! stop with the regress crap. Russell hasn’t regressed in any way. He’s just playing another game with rookie WR’s and NO running game. I’ve watched every game 4 -5 times and he’splayed as well but hedoesn’t trust the players he’s working with. The have not gelled as a unit. That’s ALL that you’re seeing.
I’ll tell you what take Peyton Mannings trused weapons away Clark and Wayne. And make him play with two rookies and see if it doesn’t affect him. It would affect any QB especially a struggling young QB. Give him Randy Moss, Wes Welker and a running game and see if he doesn’t play better immediately.
Russell needs the same things that make other QB’s great PLAYERS………….period
October 10th, 2009 at 9:10 pm
Lefy12, But the ONLY player anyone can ever think of as playing bad is Russell. Sure he’s struggling and it’s easy to see why, however I’ll be the first one to say he needs to get much better but so does everyone else.
October 10th, 2009 at 9:12 pm
what is Cable supposed to say after games-our QB is playing terrible,our rookie WRs aren’t ready for what we are asking them to do,our oline isn’t preforming up to standard, so far McFadden is playing like he is a total bust and we can’t win playing like this with this roster.didn’t Lance say that and everyone hated him for it.
October 10th, 2009 at 9:12 pm
Priesttj….Russell has regressed. The stats and actually watching him play it’s evident. He’s actually been getting far better pass protection this season too.
Lefty…I agree Cable has his hands tied….but not 100% imo. The difference supposedly with Cable v Kiffin is that Kiffin feuded with Davis for changes HIS way, but only made Davis bristle and get stubborn more. While Cable supposedly is in good with him and has far more sway. But the realist in us would say that Cable is 100% puppet. There to just spin and toe the company line, and do what Davis would like. BUt i dont think that’s completely true or only half-true.
October 10th, 2009 at 9:12 pm
Culebra, If you saw Russell in college there is no way you’d take way of those guy’s over him. College is college the NFL is very different.
October 10th, 2009 at 9:14 pm
This team should dump Russell and cut its losses. The top 3 2010 QB prospects look more solid. Tony Pike, Colt McCoy, Tim Tebow.
October 10th, 2009 at 9:16 pm
Priest,because if he was just playing like he was at the end of last year we wouldn’t be as bad as we are today.he is the face of the team.he is making the big bucks to get the credit and the blame.and to be honest right now he deserves all the blame that is being thrown his way.
October 10th, 2009 at 9:20 pm
I don’t give a damn about stats and the so called evidence. I see wht he’s doing and he’s doing what he has to do.
REGRESS my ASS!!
October 10th, 2009 at 9:21 pm
Im on the Tebow wagon 100%. That guy is a born leader, commands respect, his upbringing, history, his work ethic, toughness, and has proven his big game ability season in season out, not a one game wonder like Russell was. Also Tebow is a massively underrated pocket passer. He looks off safeties well, goes thru his progressions well, and more often than not delivers the ball to where it best suits the WR. He’s clutch basically, and reminds a lot of Steve Young when he came out of college.
October 10th, 2009 at 9:22 pm
Lefy12, I totally disagree if we can’t run with Bush tomorrow I’ll agree. But I told you about DMC a LOOONNG time ago.
October 10th, 2009 at 9:24 pm
You’re on the Tebow bandwagon until he plays your way off of it. That guy is in no way an NFL QB……….period
October 10th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
Priesttj…
A completion percentage and TD:INT ratio going from 60% last season to 40% and 1:4 this season is by definition “regression”. Not to mention the continued missing of team activities, taking a back seat, etc. Even his buddy Bowe quoted Russell saying “yeah i SHOULD start doing extra work” when Bowe had a talking with him about pulling his finger out.
Third season and he’s still struggling with the idea of extra work.
It’s only downhill even more from here for Russell.
October 10th, 2009 at 9:26 pm
GG, boy! are you a sucker for a story.
October 10th, 2009 at 9:26 pm
Priest,you didn’t have to tell me about McFadden,i was right there with you if you remember.as i’ve said,i don’t know if Russell will turn out to be good or not.it does take some longer than others.but i don’t agree that he is doing what he needs to do now.he needs to do more and he needs to do it better and if he doesn’t start doing it yesterday,he should be sat down for a week or two so he can understand it isn’t his right to be our starting QB,he has to earn it.we did it last year,maybe we need to do it again.
October 10th, 2009 at 9:29 pm
Priesttj…
How am I sucker for a story? It IS a valid story. Many people coming out in the media having strong words to or at Russell. people that matter like—Bowe, Cable, Hackett, Tolner, Parcells did a couple years ago saying he was a bust in the making with his weight and attitude issues.
The “story” is that Russell is sucking more and more. It wouldn’t be a story if he wasn’t.
October 10th, 2009 at 9:32 pm
No More Infield or Trolls Says:
October 10th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
I’m telling you that we match up well with these guys. Laugh if you must but tomorrows game will be a turning point for this team. I am seeing two signifiact wins in a row against two good teams. Actually I think Philly is not as goodas their record indicates.
I want to see Ellis and Seymour stay at their DE spots. Don’t move em around so much
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Well heck..regale us with WHY this is a big breakout game.
I mean, last I recall Russell pretty much SUCKED.
WR’s? sucked.
D line? sucked
O line? REALLY sucked..
D backs? Been getting schooled..
What you really mean to say is ‘We SHOULD win because Eli is injured, and probably not going to play” or even “they’re run D sucks”
But we both know neither of those matter, don’t we?
You’re the Raiders.
You blow smoke on Saturday, make excuses all day Monday.
No more Commitment to Excellence..it’s been replaced by Exercise in Futility.
October 10th, 2009 at 9:40 pm
priesttj Says:
October 10th, 2009 at 9:07 pm
GG, stop it!! stop with the regress crap. Russell hasn’t regressed in any way. He’s just playing another game with rookie WR’s and NO running game. I’ve watched every game 4 -5 times and he’splayed as well but hedoesn’t trust the players he’s working with. The have not gelled as a unit. That’s ALL that you’re seeing.
I’ll tell you what take Peyton Mannings trused weapons away Clark and Wayne. And make him play with two rookies and see if it doesn’t affect him. It would affect any QB especially a struggling young QB. Give him Randy Moss, Wes Welker and a running game and see if he doesn’t play better immediately.
Russell needs the same things that make other QB’s great PLAYERS………….period
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LMAO..I can just see priest, fingers all knotted..veins bulging..”stop it..JUST STOP IT”.
Doesn’t matter how many times YOU watched the game. If I say I watched it 6 times, is my opinion now more valid? YOU SAW WHAT YOU WANTED TO SEE..you blame EVERYONE except Russell.
Well..bad news for ya..across the board? By almost EVERYONE WHO MATTERS ACCOUNT (you’re right, you don’t matter) Russell has regressed.
Now, like it or not, facts are facts. now YOU want to BLAME EVERYONE ELSE..but. dude..you and OakDork are still trying to save face, week after week..blaming everyone else except JaBlubberbutt.
I GUARANTEE YOU IF YOU PUT MANNING ON THE RAIDERS HIS THROWS WILL BE HITTING THE RECEIVERS, OR DAMN CLOSE TO IT. How the hell is it the receivers fault if he’s running a deep pattern, full speed, straight ahead, has a full step on the defender and Russell just launches one that falls 10 feet to the right of everyone and 5 feet too long?
THAT’S ON RUSSELL.
Oh..and as far as players? Remember Moss? DIDN’T MATTER IT WAS MOSS, THE CRAPPY QB’S DIDN’T GET HIM THE BALL..so now what? WHO YOU GOING TO BLAME FOR THAT? Oh..I know..IT WAS THE LINEMEN..YEAH..THAT’S IT..WASN’T BROOKS..WAS THE LINEMEN.
October 10th, 2009 at 9:40 pm
Lefty12, you’re listening to too much crap, if he weren’t doing his job I would be the first to tell you. very player can do more including the coaches and Russell is stepping up as well he should into what he should be. But because it’s not obvious to the average fan it’s assumed he’s not. What you want to see you’ll see soon enough but until then I understand your frustration. But it just takes time for this young team to gel so that it is more apparent that Russell is in fact working hard to get better.
No matter what I say if you can’t see evidence on Sunday you’ll never believe it. So until then you’re right.
October 10th, 2009 at 9:41 pm
Priest,i’m not going by what i read,i’m going by what i see and too be honest,it hasn’t been very pretty.
October 10th, 2009 at 9:43 pm
This kind of delusion and spin-doctoring is what’s killing this organization. It’s ok i guess that fans do it, but when the owner/gm is doing it, is paranoid and stubborn, etc, it’s madness.
Davis is not a Paul Brown. Even paul brown had his time when he went decrepit and too set in his ways. Organization needs a new think-tank structure, that is accountable and transparent within itself, instead of living in denial and pettiness (cant bench/cut russell because kiffin would look right lol). Or cant re-sign Gruden because he’s too much of a HC, not a puppet.
One of the best organizations was when Murchison owned the Cowboys, handled just the money, left the football to the think tank of Schramm (GM), Landry (HC) and Brandt (PP). It’s not easy to find that, it’s a musical chairs every season with coaches and personnel always moving around the NFL, but it’s like a rock band, finding the right chemistry and group of people, and having them stick together.
Davis-Madden/Flores-Wolf was a similar time for us. But currently there isn’t enough being delegated to certain people especially when Davis is hiring/firing co-ordinators and coaches every season or two, hard to develop that rock band chemistry if you keep doing that.
October 10th, 2009 at 9:46 pm
GG, I have heard and read everything that Cable and the coaches have said and it gets misqouted more than anything I’ve ever seen. Not only that but I have talked to enough players and others in this organization to know better.
Guy’s I gotta go
Adios!
October 10th, 2009 at 10:19 pm
One last observation…
The “Raiders” org is carrying too much baggage. That handicaps it from improving. It’s like dating a 40 yr old women with 5 kids and has been thru 3 divorces and years of relationship issues. Too much baggage there to try to “recreate” or “redefine” her.
Things like Kiffin, Shanahan, Gruden, Callahan, Shell pt 2, etc. There’s all this baggage now from all that. Where you see an owner cut all co-ordinators associated with former Kiffin, tho they were a good coach (like Tom Rathman). Where you burn too many bridges and cut of your nose to spite your face (Gruden-Allen). Where you proclaim Russell “great” as a reason why your HC (kiffin) had to be fired, so now that the player ends up a bust, you cant do what’s best for the team, (cut/bench him) because youre more worried about perceptions of Kiffin v Davis. Where you ostracize Gannon for just doing his job as a color commentator, someone who speaks the truth without malice, suddenly you ban him and act like a little Hitler, like a Nazi propoganda machine filtering out the bad, cant have accountability, must spin and delude season ticket holders to think everything is rosy and your leader Mr. Davis is in control, go back to sleep everyone, dont panic, Mr.Davis has everything under control. Where Davis himself spends all night trawling thru the internet looking for comments that disparage him and the Raiders just so he can try to deny and spitefully get back at the journalists when he has a press conference.
Baby out with the bathwater.
October 10th, 2009 at 10:40 pm
GG, get some sleep dde you’re overthinking everything. Fans seee clearly wht is going on and they make their own assesments. The organization is the organization. You pay as much or as little attention to that crap as you choose.
Maybe we all wish things were different but it is what it is. Enjoy the game for what it is. Anything else is someone’s opinion.
The choice is yours.
October 10th, 2009 at 10:45 pm
I think Jruss does a great job of making himself look bad, KC dropped 2 int that would have been TD. Come on their is no arguing his inaccuracy are we counting the ball that skimmed to DHB as a drop? Just call us the Oakland excuses
October 10th, 2009 at 10:59 pm
You know..for some strange reason, the following post by wolff sounded familiar.
..for some…odd….reason.
wolff Says:
October 10th, 2009 at 7:13 pm
When the Bekins trucks backed up to raider central to load up for LA, a reporter said to Al:
‘You know you’re really breaking a lot of Raider fans hearts by leaving? These are the same fans who sold out the stadium for every game, even when the Raiders weren’t winning. Many believe you’re taking their team away from them.”
Al’s reply? “I don’t care what they say. It’s not their team, it’s my team. I’ll do what I want with my team.”
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Richochet Says:
October 9th, 2009 at 11:40 am
When the Bekins trucks backed up to raider central to load up for LA, a reporter said to Al:
‘You know you’re really breaking a lot of Raider fans hearts by leaving? These are the same fans who sold out the stadium for every game, even when the Raiders weren’t winning. Many believe you’re taking their team away from them.”
Al’s reply? “I don’t care what they say. It’s not their team, it’s my team. I’ll do what I want with my team.”
October 10th, 2009 at 11:15 pm
Give the OLD JEW CREDIT…..He got HIS NIGGA QB! This OLD JEW AL DAVIS!! YOUR NIGGA SUCKS!!!! JAMARCUS RUSSELL IS A DUMB NIGGA!!! A DUMB NIGGA!!!! A DUMB 60 million dolla NIGGA!!!! AL,,,,,,you OLD JEW……..GO AWAY!!!!! YOYU KIKE~~~~~~~
October 10th, 2009 at 11:36 pm
NMF, just count whatever you feel should be counted man. o you feel it’s accurate to asses a player the way this blogger did? To separate out 4 games of his career and draw a conclusion from that? He says he’s not doing that but tha is exactly what he did.
Russell’s struggles are Russell’s struggles I’m just saying there is much more to it than Russell. But that’s just me. You’ve been crying about getting DMC the ball for his entire career, so how do you asses DMC’s play? I don’t see you criticizing him nearly as harsh.
In the media Russell gets ALL the criticism and Lefty12 says it’s fair. I disagree, this team has played like crapola but the only guy they see is Russell………..so be it.
If he truens it around and wins, we’ll see if they give him all the credit. Some how I doubt it. But again that’s just me.
October 10th, 2009 at 11:48 pm
Post #147 I see the bigots are coming out from under the rocks. Why don’t you scurry back under one and let the humans have a decent conversation.
October 10th, 2009 at 11:54 pm
Priest, you’re being harder (and more unfair) on Jerry than he is (allegedly) being on Russell. Jerry’s just throwing it out there, make of it what you will, food for thought, discussion fodder. It’s beyond me how any reasonable person could disagree with his statement that, “But the numbers don’t lie, and Russell’s are spectacularly bad through the first quarter of the season.”
I agree with you re: post 147, though.
October 10th, 2009 at 11:59 pm
wuts good nation!
raiders vs giants game tomorrow not confident, not expecting a win too many problems on the offense but hopefully im proven wrong. Really, really want to see us succeed.
October 11th, 2009 at 12:08 am
to all the fathers in this blog,
a future first man raiderette. just seen a fathers nightmare on youtube. a lil boy dancing too beyonce’s single ladies and lookin really feminine. Horrible thing to watch asa father and thank god my boys aint like that. if you think im overreacting check out the video on youtube. little boy can be the first boy raiderette with his dancing skills. Not on a good note.
October 11th, 2009 at 12:17 am
TV’s AW, really he’s just throwing it out there? I’m sorry I’ve read enough of this slanted crap from Jerry to know better.
Any mindless hack could do what he did. Russell’s #’s are in a word ‘atrocious’ but you know what they say about stats. And Jerry should know that Russell’s stats aren’t indicative of his play alone. But he concealed his intentions by comparing him with the stts of other QB’s and their development and I gaurantee you if Russell’s stats were outstanding that comparison NEVER happens.
As far as Russell is comncerned all Jerry has ever focused on was the negative. He NEVER did tha with Andrew Walter if you don’t believe me loook it up. And AW was atrocious a times but he would’ve never stooped this low. All he ever did was Blame everyone except Walter. What’s changed? Jus the QB and his skin color.
And AW never worked any harder than Russell has he didn’t even wor as hard for tht matter.
Jerry is BIAS at the very least and it has racist overtones……….period
October 11th, 2009 at 12:22 am
Oh STOP WITH THE RACIST BULLS**t priest..You whining sorryass mama’s boy. You’e so desperate to save face that now you’re reduced to the lowest of the low…Yeah, ASSWIPE..only scumbags play the race card for something as ignorant as YOU just played it.
Jerry posted stats. Simple stats. Russell has been getting reamed by EVERY SPORTSCAST AND SPORTSCASTER, yet you act like Jerry’s out of hand and state it has RACIST OVERTONES?
NEVER has the race card been played by someone who wasn’t a racist.
Now, racist scumbag, it’s obvious you’re not just a whining little girl, who spells like crap, you’re also a racist slimeball.
Now go to bed and cry yourself to sleep in your pillow.
You may NOT answer.
And henceforth you shall be known as “RACIST SCUMBAG”…that guarantee goes along with the guarantee that Russell will suck tomorrow, and you’ll blame someone besides him.
October 11th, 2009 at 12:22 am
C’mon Priesttj, how wrong can you be?
“Stats are not indicative of a player’s play”????
Actually, that’s exactly what stats do/are….indicators of player’s play.
Not saying stats are biblical. And you can manipulate stats to validate observations. But stats dont lie either, as they’re indicative. That’s what “indicative” means.
October 11th, 2009 at 12:37 am
If I had Bo Jackson at his peak and I ran him 30 times but no one blocked for him, how many yards do you think he would get?
If had Johnny Unitas at QB and he played with young guy’s tha ran bad routes and dropped his passes half the time and the line allowed him to get sacked 8 times a game. What would his passing yards and passing % look like. But at thesame time Trent Dilfer was Qb with a great running game tremendous WR’s and TE’s and never got touched with all thetime in the wrld to complete a pass.
Who would have better stats? but who is really the better QBby far? now switch rolesand teams and all of a sudden Johnny U is Johnny U and Trent Dilfer is looking for a job.
My point is if all you look at is the stats without taking into acct how those stats came about. Then you can easily drraw the wrong conclusion.
If you had just looked at Matt Ryans stats as a senior QB at BC you would NEVER hae drafted him in the fifth rnd let alone the 1st rnd. Stats tell about 40% of the story at best.
October 11th, 2009 at 12:39 am
GG, I’ll let it go you know very little about football and that has NOTHING to do with stats…………period
October 11th, 2009 at 12:41 am
If a QB completes 39% of his passes, has 1:4 TD:INT ratio, it INDICATES how poor his level of play is.
Even if you had Reggie Wayne and Adrian Peterson on the Raiders team, it wouldn’t change that too much. It would possibly lift it a little higher, but if the QB continues to struggle to hit targets, read coverage, locks onto receivers, holds onto the ball too long under pressure and other times throwing it too quickly when under no pressure, and doesnt know the playbook well because he couldn’t be assed to put in the effort, then all the Reggie Waynes and Petersons arent going to lift his stats to 75% completion and 4:1 TD:INT ratio.
Sure, the OL needs improvement, the WRs are getting there, but Russell still sprays the ball all over the place more than the WRs actually drop passes, a lot of which are off-target as well, not properly thrown like Brees throws them.
There are teams around the NFL who have rookie WRs starting, and their QB play/completion percentages are not as abysmal as Russell’s.
Also, as the QB is the marquee player, the leader, and it’s all about him, how he gets all the accolades and awards for wins, then it’s valid that they get all the criticism for the losses and woeful offensive game-management. QBs are also measured by their wins. What’s Russell’s W-L record now? 6-15 or something?
As Jerry rightly pointed out, Marc Wilson copped a lot of criticism but Russell is the worst. Heaven help him because Raider Nation aint gonna forgive him when we all look back at his woeful short career. He stole money from us, laughs at us, and doesn’t care to play respectfully for the great old franchise of the “Raiders”.
Just another diva like Crabtree. Comes out early to get the money and run. He’s set, happy with life now, $40m guaranteed lol.
October 11th, 2009 at 12:44 am
Al Davis is no longer “the Raiders”.
We the fans have dethroned and defrocked him.
He’s just the worm in a rotten apple now.
Need fresh blood to take over the football side of things…the scouting, the coaching, the player acquisitions/trades/drafts.
Let Al just sit there and watch games and pay the bills.
This way you WILL have accountability and Al would have valid reason then to actually hire/fire coaches and GMs.
Instead, him controlling every facet of the organization, if he were to fire anyone at all during this last decade, it would be himself and not the coaches he forces/insists on doing things his way. lol.
October 11th, 2009 at 12:46 am
Lol at restorting to the ‘i know more about football than you’ straw-man arguments. As tho that absolves you of error or incorrect football analysis in an argument with someone else.
October 11th, 2009 at 12:52 am
Al Davis knows more about football than all of us, yet the last 10 years (or even 20) show how wrong he can often be with his scouting, ‘coaching’, hiring/firing, acquisitions, and general (mis)management of a franchise.
There was a time when Paul Brown had a used-by date. Davis reached it the last 7 or 8 years. Davis was a great cutting-edge football man at one time, but no more. Paul Brown was a living god in comparison and he even kept going beyond his used-by date. Davis has done a great job over 40 years, but he’s not good anymore. Time to move on, respectfully, not embarrassingly. That’s why sportsstars pick their retirement carefully, so they retire on a high and not bow out embarrassingly by playing for too long.
October 11th, 2009 at 12:55 am
Richochet Says:
October 11th, 2009 at 12:22 am
Oh STOP WITH THE RACIST BULLS**t priest..You whining sorryass mama’s boy.
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rack-ette you back?? After I schooled you for the thousandth time, you have decided to show your bloodied head??? time to run away again. Let’s see how your whiners do against an actual team this week.
October 11th, 2009 at 12:58 am
For once and probably only once I agree completely with Richochet (Jerry), knock off the racist stuff man.
Just look at the facts.
October 11th, 2009 at 1:06 am
Richochet, you are Jerry, right?
October 11th, 2009 at 1:24 am
How many more years of sub-500 do some Raider fans need before waking from their stupor or delusions or unfounded optimism and hope that the Raiders will ever turn it around while Davis is suffocating the organization.
We’ve had 8 years now of not just mediocrity but embarrassing play and management/PR. It aint turning a corner whilever the current think-tank remains in its current capacity.
October 11th, 2009 at 1:31 am
GG I agree.
I have been the biggest Raider supporter, but I am just embaressed now.
October 11th, 2009 at 1:38 am
GG Says:
October 11th, 2009 at 12:41 am
If a QB completes 39% of his passes, has 1:4 TD:INT ratio, it INDICATES how poor his level of play is.
Even if you had Reggie Wayne and Adrian Peterson on the Raiders team, it wouldn’t change that too much.
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Its not the players. Do you beleive the 9ers to be more talented? I don’t. The 9ers basically made one move to be as dominant as they appear this year. They got a REAL HC in Coach Singaltary. A true leader on the Raiders coaching staff gets the job done with the current roster.
October 11th, 2009 at 1:49 am
Nothing against Cable, He would have done fine taking over an established team like Pittsburg or Indi, but starting over from scratch takes a coach like Sing, or Ryan in NY. Someone who demands respect and performace, and someone who has the power in the organization to lay down the law (his own law). You think Sanchez is the reason for the NYJ’s early success? No way! That’s all coach Ryan…
October 11th, 2009 at 1:56 am
Al needs to step down just to save face, if there is any chance of saving face. His legacy depends on it. I can’t fault a single player in the case of the Raiders. Probably the youngest starting offensive unit in recent NFL history, with a soft-spoken HC with no power be creative or hold players acountable.
October 11th, 2009 at 4:32 am
Lance and the Vols got a big win yesterday. You know Al was hating that. lol
October 11th, 2009 at 4:59 am
Good Game Day Morning NATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 11th, 2009 at 5:00 am
Yep a very rigid test 2day…But I am always hopeful 4a win
October 11th, 2009 at 5:49 am
So then why didnt Big Al hire Hanson 4da job???
October 11th, 2009 at 5:50 am
Richochet i got it from you so what?
Shortly before training camp, Davis grilled Marshall, the team’s new defensive coordinator, during a meeting. As Marshall struggled to answer a question from the owner, Hanson assisted the veteran coach by giving hand signals from the back of the room. Cable, Hanson said, seemed to have been angered by his actions.
hahahaha
October 11th, 2009 at 5:52 am
expect the new DC to do his job right!
October 11th, 2009 at 6:36 am
Laramie Wy. had 7 inches of snow fall.
Good thing you took your chains Dakota!!!
October 11th, 2009 at 6:48 am
Checking in for Sunday Raider game day
WOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!
Raiders 21 pissants 20
October 11th, 2009 at 7:03 am
Required reading for all Raider Fans…go to yahoo sports and read the Randy Hanson story….his own version of the events that led up to the alleged assault. His description of the coaching / player confusion during training camp illustrates why the product that we see on the field right now is such a mess. Hate to say it…but his story rings true when you see what has transpired over the course of the first four games. Wow.
October 11th, 2009 at 7:07 am
Wooooooooooohoooooooooooo indeed… cr4p, my head hurts…
we’re going to South Africa…. yihr…
Neil b, sadly peru didnt win, so Maradona might get a ticket as well…
October 11th, 2009 at 7:29 am
Johnnylama…
WOW is RIGHT.Soo thats the side of the story we havent heard.
October 11th, 2009 at 7:30 am
Why do you people debate this buffoon ? This is far and away the most delusional moronic post I’ve ever seen. Just ignore him and hope he goes away!
# priesttj Says:
October 10th, 2009 at 9:20 pm
I don’t give a damn about stats and the so called evidence. I see wht he’s doing and he’s doing what he has to do.
REGRESS my ASS!!
October 11th, 2009 at 7:37 am
The Raiders are a joke, Davis berating Marshall, 4 coaches trying to explain how to play DB. Better shut down the windows.
October 11th, 2009 at 7:41 am
Hanson is probaly embellishing the story for “Mo Money”
I am sure there is some truth but who knows what happened.
Dont believe anything said about Al’s team.
October 11th, 2009 at 7:44 am
Hannah Storm has replaced Suzy Kolber as my most desirable sports talking head.
I love that sly smile that says “I have a secret for you”
October 11th, 2009 at 7:53 am
Mista
The only debating I do goes on inside my head and its always the same debate.
Should I get high and do house chores or should I just get high?
October 11th, 2009 at 7:56 am
Plunketthead…
really,go 2 vegas and have a good time =)
October 11th, 2009 at 7:57 am
JERRY wake up & blog!!!
Fix the dang blog or explain to us why you cant.
ALL RIGHT!!! Raider game on the one eyed hypnotist!!
I saw the discharge game and thats it.
CRUSH THE PISSANTS!!!!
October 11th, 2009 at 7:58 am
Clean your FKN house dont be a pig. If you need drugs to do that so be it..
October 11th, 2009 at 7:58 am
I read the yahoo story on Hanson. The guy might be a dedicated coach but that guy has a screw loose. Its obvious in his comments he is as delusional as priesttj and probably needs to be medicated as does priesttj.
I’m surprised Brown & Marshall gave honest statements thats pretty much it for Cable just a matter of time. AL will probably bring Hanson back and the next HC will have to deal with this nutball like Kiffin & Cable had to do.
October 11th, 2009 at 7:59 am
The football gods frowned on us when Al went after Sark.
More proof Al still has it
October 11th, 2009 at 8:08 am
lol
Yesterday I went rockchucking, cleaned out the garage, prepped the woodstove, hauled one cord into the house next to the stove and got high.
Today my neighbor with a backhoe is coming over to dig so I can pour retainer footings and pylons for my patio. I also have some shelves to install. My house is a work in progress. I also have two rockchunkers to clean
PS house is pretty dern clean for a old single man who does what he wants when he wants, Thanks be to God.
October 11th, 2009 at 8:11 am
4eva
Been there done that, mom & dad live there so I still visit every other week or so.
Highlight of visit is to buy a bag of dirtweed now and then and visit the Triangle Club
October 11th, 2009 at 8:12 am
for everybody that doesnt like russell for what he wears hes wearing a suit today
October 11th, 2009 at 8:19 am
I also have two rockchunkers to clean.
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Oh snap! You talkin’ about pipes?! Oh snap.
October 11th, 2009 at 8:20 am
16yearsold16yearfan Says:
October 11th, 2009 at 8:12 am
for everybody that doesnt like russell for what he wears hes wearing a suit today
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How do you know that?
October 11th, 2009 at 8:21 am
16 who cares?
October 11th, 2009 at 8:23 am
Most of us could care less what he wears to the game or what color his skin is. What matters is how bad he plays and how fat & out of shape he is.
Did he have a mink on top of that suit ?
October 11th, 2009 at 8:29 am
Who names their son Knowshon ?
October 11th, 2009 at 8:38 am
Knowshon meet Terdell…Terdell meet Edgeren…Edgeren meet Hines…Hines meet Byron…Byron meet Tyvon…Tyvon meet Clinton….Clintin meet Ladell…Ladell meet Lendale…Lendale meet Knowshon
October 11th, 2009 at 8:39 am
so it was BSJ, who said “oh Snap” all the time??
October 11th, 2009 at 8:47 am
Yeah me to
LMAO Mistabrown!!!
Man Boomer on bspn just said DHB has more words in his name,3…Than in his name,2 D’OH
October 11th, 2009 at 8:47 am
LOL. Oh snap. No it was Biz Markie. Oh snap.
October 11th, 2009 at 8:48 am
Just kinda wonderin’ where that clown went. Oh snap.
October 11th, 2009 at 8:51 am
BSJ..
you have used up your “oh snap” quota for today….
October 11th, 2009 at 8:52 am
NFLN just showed JaMeatloaf warming up wearing I dont know what. He over threw his target with no defense on the field, was only about a 10 yard throw.
October 11th, 2009 at 8:59 am
OH SNAP!! Biz is BSJ!!! Oh Snap!!
October 11th, 2009 at 8:59 am
i mean catches lol
October 11th, 2009 at 9:03 am
Good Morning Nation,
I’m really worried about this game. Is this the game we get wiped out and the team quits on Cable?
October 11th, 2009 at 9:06 am
we lose by 30 today. we blow.
October 11th, 2009 at 9:07 am
Exla,
I think the team quit on Russell after week 1. I think the team quit on Cable after Denver.
I hope I’m wrong..
October 11th, 2009 at 9:08 am
Legalize it, and hire me to be inchage of the entire program!!
October 11th, 2009 at 9:12 am
Charlie Casserly coming up about 10 minutes past the hour on CBS. He usually has good insight.
Then I switch over to Fox to listen to Jay Glazier.
October 11th, 2009 at 9:15 am
The team quit on themselves if they quit.Even if they have problems with Cable they have to be men. Men overcome stupid people. They get paid big dollars. They should earn it.
October 11th, 2009 at 9:15 am
Maybe Russel will be successful, maybe he will be the biggest bust ever. I don’t know. But what I do know is that this team is so ridiculously dysfunctional that any QB, no matter how talented, would struggle to develop. On a side note, I would love to see ESPN make a movie about Al Davis. I think Christopher Walken could play a good Davis.
October 11th, 2009 at 9:32 am
get ready for some uncreative hands offs to bush off RT and LT and then some play action 25-30 yard LOW percentage throws downfield and no creativity to sustain drives.
LOUSY RAIDERS!! LOL
October 11th, 2009 at 9:33 am
Chris Walken as the stubborn crazy old man Al Davis would be great. LOL
October 11th, 2009 at 9:34 am
christopher walken is a hella good actor. that would be perfect.
October 11th, 2009 at 9:35 am
# Plunketthead Says:
October 11th, 2009 at 9:39 am
Glazier says Raiders called everyone last week and said who do you want? Everyone is up for sale except young talent.
Fire sale in Oakland?
JERRY WAKE UP THERES BIG NEWS OUT THERE RIGHT UNDER YOUR NOSE
REMOVE THE MCDONALDS SAUSUGE SYRUP BACON CHEESE SOAKED MUFFINS FROM YOUR GRILL AND START BLOGGING
^^^^^^Everyone for sale??? Including the crap emperor owner and his evil “advisors” Herrera, Taylor, and Trask?
October 11th, 2009 at 9:36 am
Walken is PERFECT
October 11th, 2009 at 9:38 am
OK
October 11th, 2009 at 9:39 am
Glazier says Raiders called everyone last week and said who do you want? Everyone is up for sale except young talent.
Fire sale in Oakland?
JERRY WAKE UP THERES BIG NEWS OUT THERE RIGHT UNDER YOUR NOSE
REMOVE THE MCDONALDS SAUSUGE SYRUP BACON CHEESE SOAKED MUFFINS FROM YOUR GRILL AND START BLOGGING
October 11th, 2009 at 9:39 am
TEST
October 11th, 2009 at 9:40 am
I agree about Walken playing Al. He is the perfect choice.
October 11th, 2009 at 9:41 am
Raider O Says:
October 11th, 2009 at 9:08 am
Legalize it, and hire me to be inchage of the entire program!!”
And I will advertise it!
October 11th, 2009 at 9:42 am
LOOOOUSY RAIDERS AND LOUUUUUSY UPPER MANAGEMENT! LOL
October 11th, 2009 at 9:43 am
Prediction: No TDs today; Giants 26, Raiders 0; Cable fired on Monday.
October 11th, 2009 at 9:44 am
Time to roll out of bed Jerry, get your sh1t together man!
October 11th, 2009 at 9:45 am
I am pretty sure he was talking players, not Als staff.
Does Al go to away games this year?
JERRY TELL YOUR BOSS TO SEND YOU TO AWAY GAMES OR PLUNK WILL TEXT CABLE AND HAVE HIM PUNCH YOUR BOSSES LIGHTS OUT.
October 11th, 2009 at 9:45 am
Raiders score a TD on their first offensive possesion. You heard it here first.
October 11th, 2009 at 9:45 am
Do you think we will score a TD today?
I say no:
Giants 27
Raiders 9
Fire Cable!!
October 11th, 2009 at 9:47 am
O,
What coach do you want to replace Cable with? Who will work in this Chaos?
I agree Cable sucks but changing coaches isnt going to solve anything. I say keep him and hope he beats another guys ass so we have something to talk about.
October 11th, 2009 at 9:48 am
How is it that a player sneezes on Tom Brady’s leg and he gets a roughing call while JaMarcus gets hit in the head and thrown to the ground and no call or fine for that matter?
The NFL is a business and it does well, whether the Raiders are good or bad, so might as well screw ‘em at every opportunity. It’s hard enough to be a bad team trying to overcome your own shortcomings, let alone overcoming THE OBVIOUS BIAS that exists within the officiating. It has always been this way, but not every single week like this year. It is utter crap and completely bogus.
October 11th, 2009 at 9:49 am
Morning 4eva
I love this time of year whether the Raiders are good or not.
October 11th, 2009 at 9:50 am
Some Fan needs to rush Cable during a game, tackle him, and then punch him in the face!
October 11th, 2009 at 9:52 am
Hanson is a wimp. What kind of grown man claims he almost died in a 20 second altercation?
Grow a set would you.
Get ready for a good game folks, I sense it. Just please do not get the ball first, a recipe for disaster. Two firsts today, Nmamdi pick and DHB TD.
Time for some Pacifico’s!!!!
October 11th, 2009 at 9:52 am
Maybe Cable should avoid calling the game a “street fight”…
that must have been the Defense he was trying to school Hanson on in Napa…
October 11th, 2009 at 9:52 am
I’ll take Gilbride over that fat Moron anyday!! Damn dude, he can’t be any worse.
October 11th, 2009 at 9:53 am
That would be weight challanged Raider O
October 11th, 2009 at 9:54 am
=)
October 11th, 2009 at 9:54 am
You can find a coach. There are a lot of great minds who don’t get a chance. Based on exp, race, age, etc…
October 11th, 2009 at 9:54 am
Yep just a matter of time 4 Cable…Damn man.People get shot all the time 4 those types of out-bursts.Cable lucky Hanson dosent pack.Man WTF this never-ending nightmare NEEDS 2 END
October 11th, 2009 at 9:55 am
Is Jerry still sleeping?
Wake up and give us something Jerr-rah
October 11th, 2009 at 9:58 am
Deirdorf???? Agaasst!!!
Over/Under on times he says “discombobelated”
2.5
October 11th, 2009 at 10:00 am
4eva,
Then let’s send 2 fans. F it, send an entire section!!
October 11th, 2009 at 10:00 am
Jamarcus, pretty in pink, lol
October 11th, 2009 at 10:01 am
the coach is not the problem here. i always thought that till the last couple years. its Als meddling. ive already convinced myself this is the way it will be till he gives up controll. sad but tru.
October 11th, 2009 at 10:02 am
now secondly during todays game can we not jump on jamarcus so quickly give him till the end of the year at least him and cable the raiders are close and if after this year there is no improvement we can start the bring back gruden crusade and the draft jake locker movement in 2011 now lets go lets be the giants ass today haha
October 11th, 2009 at 10:03 am
Morning Dogg
YEP LOL!!!
Besides our ass-whipping last week,how was Govt Mule???
October 11th, 2009 at 10:04 am
4evaRaider Says:
October 11th, 2009 at 10:03 am
Morning Dogg
YEP LOL!!!
Besides our ass-whipping last week,how was Govt Mule???”
Mule was amazing. It’s not often that you get to hang with your heroes. The wife and I were in the VIP until after 3 in the morning on Saturday.
The band was amazing both nights, 4+ hours both nights. They have a new album coming out on 10/27/09, make sure that you check it out.
October 11th, 2009 at 10:05 am
what is up with this your comment is awaiting moderation stuff whats that mean?
October 11th, 2009 at 10:06 am
cable needs to talk about the fight. its getting too one sided. the raider way. they do it to themselves by not shooting down the reports. they let them fester too long then there word dont mean crap.
October 11th, 2009 at 10:06 am
Vegas,
According to the Gay report, Hanson wasnt even punched. his jaw broke when Cable pushed him up against the wall…kinda funny, where’s that big punch that the mediots have been reporting????
October 11th, 2009 at 10:08 am
Hire Tony Dungy!!
October 11th, 2009 at 10:09 am
Today, the Raiders shock the world!
GO RAIDERS!
October 11th, 2009 at 10:11 am
if cable is this bad at the end FIRE him then do the right thing AL and BRING BACK GRUDEN
October 11th, 2009 at 10:11 am
tony dungy will then bring in vick and we start to win some games. hell, even if we are just competitive all the time id be happy.
October 11th, 2009 at 10:12 am
Hire Bill Cowher, the Raiders need a hard a$$ coach that INSTILLS discipline.
October 11th, 2009 at 10:13 am
Is there a link to this gamer anywhere?
October 11th, 2009 at 10:14 am
is there a link to this game anywhere?
October 11th, 2009 at 10:14 am
link to the game anywhere?
October 11th, 2009 at 10:14 am
Hire Bill, there are 2 outhere!
Hire Gilbride, he’s doing great.
just fire cable at the end of the season, but for now just take play calling away from that Fat Moron!
October 11th, 2009 at 10:15 am
nothing new, another PI by Routt, we seriously need a new CB for this turd.
October 11th, 2009 at 10:17 am
Eli is throwing off his back foot each of the first two throws, FYI
October 11th, 2009 at 10:17 am
That WAS NOT pass interference. It’s already begun…
October 11th, 2009 at 10:17 am
Money Warren, great job
October 11th, 2009 at 10:19 am
We got “F’d” again by a phony grabbing the jersey call.
October 11th, 2009 at 10:21 am
3 and out ? what ya think ?
October 11th, 2009 at 10:21 am
Routt SUCKS!!!!
October 11th, 2009 at 10:22 am
Two 3rd down penalties.
No discipline. Fire someone!!!
October 11th, 2009 at 10:23 am
It’s amazing how many times I hear from the announcers, “I’ve seen a lot worse that didn’t draw a flag.” And it is always against the Raiders.
When will it end?
October 11th, 2009 at 10:26 am
Routt played no technique and just grabbed the whole time.
Easy call. Especially if you are a Raider.
October 11th, 2009 at 10:26 am
Vegas there shouldn’t have been a flag thrown on Routt. The def should have been off the field.
Just sayin..
October 11th, 2009 at 10:26 am
cant fault the D, good stance that almost paid off. You replace Routt and that bad call, along with the receptions Routt allowed and the D stops the Giants on that drive. CB and O-Line in the draft!
October 11th, 2009 at 10:27 am
Eric Pears strikes again! way to drop a pass Watkins!!
October 11th, 2009 at 10:28 am
Yah we need more CB’s in the draft not a Qb, MLB, O-line, or D-line
lmfao
October 11th, 2009 at 10:28 am
jon gruden will bring back the discipline we need
October 11th, 2009 at 10:29 am
JaMarshmallow time!
Get your popcorn
October 11th, 2009 at 10:29 am
if jamarcus doesnt show drastic improvement the rest of this year and next year i say we need to draft Jake Locker in the 2011 draft
October 11th, 2009 at 10:30 am
http://www.atdhe.net/
This links working.
October 11th, 2009 at 10:30 am
Mista,
You can’t reach with your arms extended like that, and than get in early on the pass. Regular defenders they will call that 50% of the time. Routt and the Raiders 90% of the time.
October 11th, 2009 at 10:30 am
Manning had all day to throw the ball we didnt pressure him or throw a blitz at him but we need to draft CB’s!
October 11th, 2009 at 10:32 am
What would an opening drive be without a false start!
October 11th, 2009 at 10:33 am
wow
October 11th, 2009 at 10:33 am
Maclin caught a TD. of course he has a good QB and a line. WE SUCK!
October 11th, 2009 at 10:34 am
7 yard rush, 5 yard penalty, 2 yard pass, incomplete.
Yup, gonna be a long day, lol
October 11th, 2009 at 10:34 am
A flag and a drop…..wow,not seen that this season.
October 11th, 2009 at 10:34 am
Ball thrown high and behind as usual but Watkins needs to make that catch!
Wheres J Walker, oh yah inactive or on the bench! Dont bother putting the 53 best men on the field Tom/Al.
October 11th, 2009 at 10:34 am
Can Routt cover anyone???
Maybe our crappy recievers in practice, but come Sunday..NO ONE!
October 11th, 2009 at 10:36 am
this gone get ugly
October 11th, 2009 at 10:36 am
push off by Smith
October 11th, 2009 at 10:37 am
Told you guys Bradshaw will be more effective than Jacobs.
Where is the offensive PI on Smith?
October 11th, 2009 at 10:37 am
Watkins got BOTH HANDS on the ball. Dogg Jr makes that catch all day and he’s 3 years old!
October 11th, 2009 at 10:37 am
are they even trying?? WTF??
October 11th, 2009 at 10:38 am
Bad decision by Russell. Bush was wide open underneath to continue the drive. This second TD was on Russell.
Still bad D against a great O.
October 11th, 2009 at 10:38 am
GAME OVER. And it’s only 10:25 A.M.
October 11th, 2009 at 10:38 am
S Smith pushed off on C Johnson.
The defense is demoralized by our offense they’ve been on the field too often.
October 11th, 2009 at 10:39 am
LOL Mista …
Why don’t you use your DVR rewind and see that if JRuss would have led Watkins, 41 would have picked it off. Watkins had 2 hands on the ball and freaking dropped it.
Nice penalty on the oline to kill the running momentum!
October 11th, 2009 at 10:39 am
Hey Ryan, I saw the same thing too. Terrible choice. A simple dump to Bush and he would have had a 30+ yard gain on that one. But Russell had to force it down field as usual
October 11th, 2009 at 10:40 am
LOL !!!!
Bradshaw goes untouched …UNTOUCHED, for THIRTY YARDS!
October 11th, 2009 at 10:40 am
Morning JHill!!! Another week, another drubbing.
This is getting rough.
Watkins has to catch that ball, plain and simple. Great pocket presence by Russell
October 11th, 2009 at 10:41 am
Still can’t get past the 20 on a KO.
October 11th, 2009 at 10:41 am
the game is getting out of hand maybe we should put in our inexperienced WR’s and get them some experience…………oh wait. oh crap.
October 11th, 2009 at 10:41 am
on both big plays the Giants O-Line was CLEARLY holding at the point of attack, no call. Plus how is that not offensive PI on Steve Smith when he CLEARLY pushed off to get seperation?
October 11th, 2009 at 10:42 am
Send the women and children out of the room.This is going to be ugly.
October 11th, 2009 at 10:42 am
Jhill I said Watkins should have made the catch! Maybe he should go somewhere else with the football. My bad Russell is a hall of famer, MVP, and Noble prize winner!
*puke*
October 11th, 2009 at 10:43 am
Nice bounce pass to DHB
October 11th, 2009 at 10:43 am
Awful coaching!!!!
Every team in the world knows you throw a screen on 3rd and 24.
LB’s??? Anywhere??
October 11th, 2009 at 10:44 am
You guys are REEEEE-CHING!
Bush was caught up in the pile and released when JR was already looking downfield. You are really going to sit here and disect that play where Russell SHOULD HAVE BEEN SACKED?!?!?
Heat of the moment, found an open Watkins, Watkins dropped the ball!
LBs are AWFUL!!!!!
8 minute drive to start the game????
30 yard TD run untouched …. UNTOUCHED ?!?!?
Yeah, this is on Russell! I can see it clear as day, lol!
October 11th, 2009 at 10:44 am
rofl, first quarter: Raiders 9 yards offense, 21 yards penaltys. Sure, draft another QB, it’s worked out so well in the past.
October 11th, 2009 at 10:44 am
Only the Raiders “defense” could make a 3rd-and-24 into an automatic first down.
October 11th, 2009 at 10:45 am
3rd and 24 and we still can’t get off the field….
October 11th, 2009 at 10:46 am
JR news , he is 17 pounds heavier than last year
October 11th, 2009 at 10:47 am
Ok good put the defense back on the field!!!
Bounce passes, high & wide!
October 11th, 2009 at 10:47 am
Just read the article about Randy Hanson…
I believe him…the coaches and players are confused, and Cable is in over his head….way over.
October 11th, 2009 at 10:47 am
Raiders couldnt beat a Canadian football team
October 11th, 2009 at 10:48 am
No Mista,
What youy said was high and behind as usual.
How did you like that dump down where a guy can’t make a first down?
A guess JRuss should have ????
I’m sure I’ll read somehthing else was the QBs fault about this last 3 and out by the time I post this.
It’s all good though, man! Not really trippin on you.
Just watching these sorry ass LBs give up another big run, lol!
October 11th, 2009 at 10:48 am
Stop the game please this is painful
October 11th, 2009 at 10:49 am
this is becoming a Kevin Gillbride job interview.
October 11th, 2009 at 10:49 am
Jhill, can your boy let the defense catch their breath?
How about 1 first down? No bounce passes or high & wides, mmk?
October 11th, 2009 at 10:49 am
On another note …
Could someone please explain to me why Eugene started this game? As well as Huff has been playing, why Eugene was on the field to get beat is kinda strange!
I wonder if SnB has walked out of the stadium yet?
October 11th, 2009 at 10:49 am
screen pass on a zone blitz call way to go Marshall.
October 11th, 2009 at 10:50 am
55 yard screen play?!
October 11th, 2009 at 10:51 am
Jhill you dont see the defense is demoralized & tired after 5 weeks of Russell putting them back on the field?
These guys are only human they are taking a beating at the hands of our offense!
October 11th, 2009 at 10:51 am
there have been several holds already uncalled by the giants and that pi on routt waws atrocious. smith pushed for offensive pi but of course no call. watkins has to make that catch period.also why was cable passing on 2nd and 3 when he just got 7 on a 1rst down run? brown missed a huge hole on that 1 jacobs run. these guys arent attackin enuff. pathetic by cable to give up running with bush so early in the game.
October 11th, 2009 at 10:51 am
Fire Cable and the whole staff.
This is beyond pathetic. I’m out, I can’t watch teams convert 3rd and 24’s on a simple screen pass.
I am not going to post on here for awhile. I am done.
October 11th, 2009 at 10:53 am
hes gotta pull jamarcus to save the season
October 11th, 2009 at 10:55 am
OK!
Russell can go 3 & out and put the defense back on the field.
If you are complaining of officiating at this point you need to go wipe the sand out of your clit, wakeup you FKN cry babies!!!
October 11th, 2009 at 10:55 am
Holland sucks.
October 11th, 2009 at 10:59 am
Hey News if your out there earlier this week i was trying to be positive. You called me out on it and its time to man up. You were right i was wrong this team has no fight in them. The Defense is a joke. The Offense is worst than ever and JRuss is a complete failure. I’ll sign off all of my comments with the following quote.
“The News knows” until the Raiders actually show up to play. Which will be sometime in 2012.
The News knows
October 11th, 2009 at 10:59 am
Lol who’s the idiot on this blog that said this was going to be a breakout game for the high school team called the raiders, lol 21-0 damn really garbage, and we are here talking about our beloved raiders wow I seen a high school team play better and with more heart then this sorry excuse of a team jump the ship gentleman jump the ship, to believe that this year would be different lol aww my focus is on baseball at least I got my beloved Dodgers to root for thanks Oakland for that ethier trade lol, hasta luego n pray for the faiders
October 11th, 2009 at 11:10 am
FIRE CABLE BUMAYA!
October 11th, 2009 at 11:25 am
Lol u saw that strip what was dhb doing he was running for his life
October 11th, 2009 at 11:26 am
Go Lakers!
October 11th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
The only stat that matters is:
JAGARBAGE ALL FAT AND NO MUSCLE RUSSELL IS 6-16 AS A STARTER!
cant spin that, can’t make excuses for that! Can’t coddle that!
October 13th, 2009 at 4:04 am
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