Are the Raiders hurting enough?
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, October 14th, 2009 at 4:09 pm in Oakland Raiders.
How much do the Raiders really care?
It’s a fair question in the wake of three consecutive losses by a combined score of 96-16, and a subject which was broached by Giants middle linebacker Antonio Pierce Tuesday in a Sirius Satellite Radio interview.
When the Raiders lost 24-20 in the season opener against San Diego, Cable said he was pleased that his team appeared be anguished about the defeat, and that such emotional pain in the wake of a loss is something that had been missing from the team’s chemistry since he arrived.
And here comes Pierce, saying the Raiders competed as if it were a scrimmage, without the kind of fire and emotion the NFL uses to sell itself to the masses.
The depth to which the Raiders care about their performance was apparently a topic of discussion in a lengthy post-practice meeting. When asked about what had transpired during the 10 to 15 minutes the team was gathered on a far field, away from the media, Cable at first said they were enjoying a laugh.
Later, he allowed that how they have reacted what has transpired in losses over the last three games was also on the table.
“That’s pretty much what we were talking about out there, talking through that,” Cable said.
Game circumstances in blowout losses account for a big part of the difference. There’s an inevitability that goes along with a large fourth-quarter deficit that lessens the shock value.
“We were three-and-out so quick, have the turnover and you’re down 28-0, so it’s not a great position to be in,” tight end Zach Miller said. “We didn’t play well, so it’s no wonder he said something like that.
“It definitely didn’t feel like a scrimmage. Guys can say what they want. We didn’t play well enough as an offense, so can’t say anything back if you didn’t have any production.”
Rookie wide receiver Louis Murphy admits he is struggling to adapt to a new culture after a playing on a national championship team at Florida.
“We just have to step up and play. I’m new to this aspect of football. (In) school, you lose, it’s the end of the world and you try to get it done. Here you have more room for losses. We just have to get on the ball of things and be more particular and detailed in what we’re doing.
“It’s kind of a snowball effect and it’s gotten bigger and it’s just rolling downhill.”
Defensive tackle Gerard Warren having defeat as a conditioned reflex cannot be accepted.
“Well, if I can identify any player on this team that can accept losing, then that’s something I think I have to take to Mr. Davis and Coach Cable,” Warren said. “We don’t accept losing. No matter what the outcome of the game is, we want to be victorious, no matter how long it takes to get the victory. And if a guy can walk in and say, ‘Man, I gave my all, but we lost,’ we don’t need you in this locker room. Cause we’re here to win.”
Defensive end Richard Seymour, coming from a New England team with a history of success, was uninterested in dwelling on the pain of the losses.
“I think as a professional you have to be able to, whether a good play happened or a bad play, you have to move on to the next,” Seymour said. “We can’t move forward looking to our rearview mirror. I think that’s going to help us being able to put things behind us and move forward.
More news, notes and quotes:
– Tackle Langston Walker, cut by Buffalo two seasons into a five-year contract that guaranteed him $10 million, re-signed with the Raiders and was on the practice field Wednesday. Walker had 32 of his 65 career starts the last two seasons for the Bills, but was cut Sept. 8.
“I’m not going to lie to you and tell you that I saw it coming,” Walker said. “But you know, they made their decision, and Oakland has me back.”
Walker tried out for the Raiders last week, after which Cable said they were just taking a look and indicated conditioning was an issue and said, “We’ll just wait and see down the road.”
The road arrived quicker than expected in part because of the play of right tackle Erik Pears, who has four false starts.
The Raiders made no attempt to bring Walker back in part because they were implementing a zone blocking scheme which puts a premium on movement and athletic skill.
“It’s slightly different, but I think I can do it. I’m athletic enough,” Walker said. “I guess if I couldn’t they wouldn’t bring me in.”
Cable said Walker is in good shape. His weight is down from (gulp) 380 pounds to 362, still bigger than your average zone blocker.
“He’s quick off the snap,” Cable said. “Let’s see how he does it as hegets into it and gets familiar with it.
Walker said getting up to speed with the new system is more of an obstacle than being physically ready to play.
“I think it’s more about learning the playbook,” Walker said. “That’s the biggest issue standing in front of me. Different words and signals and nomenclature, and different quarterback.”
Walker has retained his very dry sense of humor.
“I did enjoy Niagara Falls and Canada, the East Coast life. Lake Erie is somewhat like the bay a little bit, when you factor in the fact that there’s water,” Walker said.
– Chaz Schilens was limited in practice but encouraged Cable with what he was able to accomplish. If Schilens can practice a second straight day, chances appear good he could have a role against Philadelphia.
“He looked good in what he did so we’ll see tomorrow,” Cable said.
– Robert Gallery was listed as questionable but did not practice. Greg Ellis missed practice with a sore knee that was precautionary.
– With Luke Lawton out and Oren O’Neal waived, Gary Russell and tight end Brandon Myers saw time at fullback. It didn’t sound as if promoting Marcel Reece from the practice squad is an option.
– Cable welcomed any input an influential veteran such as Donovan McNabb would have speaking with Russell.
“I think, especially at that position, it’s always good to seek out those guys who have been through those same issues, as well as listen to ‘em when they seek you out,” Cable said. “So I don’t think something like that can do anything but be a positive.”
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October 14th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
Go Raiders!
October 14th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
walker down to 362 !!! he and janormous should be partners on some fast food joints
October 14th, 2009 at 4:23 pm
“It definitely didn’t feel like a scrimmage.” I’m sure it didn’t Zach.
October 14th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
Felt like a scrimmage to N.Y., like a high school team going against pros to da Raiders.
October 14th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
This should send a shockwave through AL’s sweatsuit.
“Here you have more room for losses”
Louis Murphy
October 14th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
Another week… Same product! I can’t even sell season tickets at face value! Chaz is just as green as any recieved in our team with a few games of experience. It’s the truth! The raiders are not ready to compete with the best offense statistically wise in the NFL. They’re not ready! Tom Cable is a winning head coach! He hasn’t won at any level yet? Maybe he’s an exceptional Oline coach but not in any means winning fashion. Bottom-line Raider Naion is punchdrunk!
October 14th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
Listened to the Tim and Pat show on Sirius. They disected the coaches film from the Giants game. They said this whole team is badly broken. Slop everywhere, especially the offensive line. Said the O-Line is not even competitive. Erik Pears and Satele are horrible. Said 4 of the 6 sacks directly due to the O-Line.
They also said they run way too many deep routes and the receivers don’t understand how to respond to coverages.
Oh well….QB has no fundamentals….and the entire team looks like the 1st day of practice.
Oh well! I am just a Raider fan and I am happy to be here.
Go Raiders! Just try and be competitive and give it the ole college try!
Don’t want to be accused of being a bandwagon fan….Good grief….Rec League NFL…its all the same.
Anyone have a kid on this rec league team.
go raiders!
October 14th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
I just want a competitive game for 2 or 3 QTRs.
Just stop embarrassing themselves.
Score a few points…10 or so on offense would be nice.
Chris Johnson not getting torched would be nice too
Go Raiders!
October 14th, 2009 at 4:33 pm
Just win Oakland. Just win the game dammit! Give the extra and get it done!
October 14th, 2009 at 4:33 pm
there is never 2much pain
October 14th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
SnB you said you were checking out after the Houston game. At least you dropped your wheres the commish bullkrap…did you get meds or something ?
October 14th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
I just do not understand how there can be any positive thoughts at all surrounding this team. They have given up on the year and so the fans should give up on them too. I mean it is week six and the year is already over. How ridiculous is that? Think back to all the early first round draft picks the team has, and this is how they produce… It is appalling! I can’t take it anymore! I mean really, Langston Walker? How the heck is he going to help? What about bringing in a QB who wants to play and who has the desire to improve. He is such an insult to us fans who pay for tickets and merchandise. If he was not making so much money he would have been cut weeks ago. Al Davis is to blame for all of this demise. He is not only bringing down the team, he is bringing down the “Nation.”
October 14th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
But Cable says we are this close (—).
October 14th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
I really hope JaMarcus listens to McNabb…not that it matters much. Maybe JaMarcus can take those lessons to the next team.
Is anyone surprised that Satele, Pears and Carlisle are so horrible. This is the result of constantly going to the HAND ME DOWN store to pick up lineman.
YOu have to develop your own talent. Teams don’t get rid of good players anymore.
October 14th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
Mistabrown Says:
October 14th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
SnB you said you were checking out after the Houston game. At least you dropped your wheres the commish bullkrap…did you get meds or something ?
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Can’t do it. Still like football on Sundays…I don’t expect anything though. I accept what they are.
October 14th, 2009 at 4:44 pm
I’ll say it again..
Talk is CHEAP. Show us something on the field..
Interesting that Warren said he’d go to Mr. Davis and/then Coach Cable. Hmmmmmm..
October 14th, 2009 at 4:44 pm
Hey. I like what I´m listening! I really believe everything Tom Cable says. We are going to tear up the Eagles D, and dominate Andy Reid’s scheme with our man 2 man D. i’m telling you, Gerard Warren is going to shut down Desean Jackson!
October 14th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
No point in getting angry about this thing anymore. Al Davis owns the team. I believe in Capitalism so taking his team would be wrong. I just want to see them competitive. If not…oh well….I look at the Raiders like I do my cousins t-ball team.
Just want to see some effort. Hope they have some fun playing. Wins and losses can’t get better because of the structure Davis sticks too.
So you either switch teams…or just kick back watch a game, have a beer and go on with your day.
Just won’t be spending any money to watch them. Not after spending all that money to go to Giants Stadium and watch a team quit.
October 14th, 2009 at 4:50 pm
Next year will be an uncapped year. Mr. Davis should unload every large contract on this team should things not get better……
Go Raiders!
October 14th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
NorthernD Says:
October 14th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
I heard rumours that the Raiders are going to pick up Jamaican sprinter Hussein Bolt. Wow. That would make the Raiders’ O explosive. Imagine having both Bolt and DHB running post DECOY routes. Then JaMarcus could throw a decoy bomb. And Langston Walker and Pears could make decoy blocks.
That would open up the field so when McFadden trips over the twenty yard line, he could get up and start running again.
Just like Cable drew it up on the chalk board…
October 14th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
Another weak of ra-ra bs followed by a sound thumping by a real NFL Franchise. Philly will hang 40 easy on this squad and never look back.
Hopefully this week will be the end of the Cable experiment. Guy is a ra-ra man, nothing else. Basic shemes, mental errors, and no production. Those are the things that will define B&B II.
October 14th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
Its not about wins and losses with Oakland. Its not about 20 of 24 1st and 2nd round picks busting out since 1999.
Its about seeing the uniform on the field competing and trying their darndest to compete.
Who cares about stats…..stats are for losers….wins and losses are for the instant gratification society.
They try their best. You guys think Cable and those players are trying to lose on purpose. They care…
It just didn’t seem like it to the naked eye….but they are trying.
Go Raiders!
October 14th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
Just have to let Al Davis do his thing.
Its his show…we are just spectators. He hasn’t developed any young talent in a generation. But everyone is trying their best
Go Raiders
October 14th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
Gotta love McFalling tripping over the 20 yd line. Must be those steel tipped shoes or something!
October 14th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
Cable is just doing hat he’s told Raider75. He is reduced to being a ra ra guy. No HC calling his own shots would stick with JaMeatloaf this long.
Would you trot Russell out there week after week when he doesn’t give you the bst chance to win? Would you start DHB over Javon Walker? You wouldnt do any of those things unless your hands were tied.
The end.
October 14th, 2009 at 5:06 pm
Doriangray,
The only possible way this thing can work is this.
They have to somehow find a way to attract a couple of hard nosed leaders like Ray Lewis, Brian Dawkins and Peyton Manning. A few players that could fill the vacummn that Davis has manufactured.
New QBs, RBs, O-Lineman REceivers and coaches won’t make a difference and the reasons have been well explained.
So unless that happens…get you a beer…hang with some good friends and watch a few hours of football and just appreciate the moment
Go Raiders
October 14th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
los raiders de don rober Says:
October 14th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
Gotta love McFalling tripping over the 20 yd line. Must be those steel tipped shoes or something!
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He’s trying his best. He didn’t trip on purpose. Same with the rest of this team.
Maybe they can surprise someone this weekend. I mean, they really have to be embarrassed….but then again, they might not care…or even know how.
It is what it is.
Go Raiders!
October 14th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
Everyone has been really hard on JaMarcus and he deserves it but he’s not the real problem. What was everyone expecting? A Pro Bowl Season? With that Line and those Receivers and Darren McFumbles. JaMarcus has shown very little in terms of TALENT, I have never seen a game where he showed that he was Special, his 2 “good” games last year were very Byron Leftwich like, nothing Special..just Average.
The real issue is the Defense, I expect Russell and the young WR’s and Backs to struggle, I expect low scoring outputs, I expect turnovers..I expect youthful mistakes from a very young offense. But COME ON DEFENSE!! Seymour, Ellis, Howard, and yes…#21. The Giants have a GREAT D, but their Offense is not that great, they looked like the 92 Cowboys out there. Thats on the Defense, a Veteran Defense. The Offense needs to be carried by the D, if JaMarcus goes on the field in the first quarter and is trailing by 21 points..it’s not gonna be good.
Now is the Winter of our discontent!! As usual, we have another offseason of Coach shuffling, bad trades and false hope.
Say what you want about Al Davis but he has assembled what should be a high quality defense, how do you add Seymour and Ellis and get murdered like that? Why didn’t teams score 100 every game last year? If the D got worse adding those guys then all hope is lost, Forever.
We Raider Fans are very forgiving and we care (enough to sit at my computer and rationalize thsi), BRING THE PAIN DEFENSE and all will be forgiven, show us something!!
October 14th, 2009 at 5:09 pm
well kinda hard 2 argue with that
October 14th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
October 14th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
Listened to the Tim and Pat show on Sirius.
They disected the coaches film from the Giants game.
They said this whole team is badly broken.
Slop everywhere, especially the offensive line. Said the O-Line is not even competitive. Erik Pears and Satele are horrible. Said 4 of the 6 sacks directly due to the O-Line.
They also said they run way too many deep routes and the receivers don’t understand how to respond to coverages.
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Exactly!
So what exactly do you expect the RBs and QB to do under those circumstances? It’s unreal how bad our line is. It makes NO sense to keep trotting the 2 rookies out there who clearly are in over their heads.
Oh Well … Take the lumps and hopefully these kids fight through it.
October 14th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
Is there any other team that would keep starting a QB who is as pathetic as JaCarcass ? I don’t think so. Is there any other team in the NFL that is ran by somebody who can’t feed or clean themselves ? I don’t think so. Cable needs to turn himself in before they come to arrest him. How humiliating for the raiders to have their HC handcuffed and taken away during practice. It could happen.
October 14th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
Here’s why winning and losing no longer matters in Oakland.
Busters:
Matt Stinchcomb
Tony Bryant
Jerry Porter
Derrick Gibson
Marques Tuiassossopo
Phillip Buchanon
Napolean Harris
Langston Walker
Doug Jolley
Tyler Brayton
Teyo Johnson
Robert Gallery
Jake Grove
Fabian Washington
Stanford Routt
Michael Huff
JaMarcus Russell
Darren McFadden
Darrius Heyward-Bey
Michael Mitchell
Also:
Randy Moss
deAngelo Hall
October 14th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
Isn’t Tom Cable supposed to be some sort of Offensive Line Guru? Why do the Raiders have the worst Offensive line in Football, ever. WTF?
October 14th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
Its sad that the Raiders couldn’t find 4 contributors to my busters list above. 4 would-be veterans…
Oh well…..DHB should be motivated with Jeremy Maclin lining up on the other side making plays.
October 14th, 2009 at 5:21 pm
The thing that sucks the most is knowing that from February until June we are going to hear about all the Coaches that Won’t coach the Raiders, it’s sad when a guy like Haley wouldnt even interview. We can all sit back and watch as Shanahan, Holmgren, Cowher and Gruden get snatched up horrible teams around the league, and college level assistants won’t take this job. Hell, I was hoping Cable would do well just so we copuld have a coach for more than a season and a half…What’s Tom Flores doing these days? He’s not dead is he?
October 14th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
Raiders need to get back to that power blocking line.
I kind of seen enough of the Kwame Harris’, Samson Satele’s, Cooper Carlisle’s and Cornell Green’s.
Kind of wish they could get Kevin Boothe back.
Anyway…I agree with the idea of going with McQuistan and Walker on the Right Side. This ZBS doesn’t even work.
October 14th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
Lets see… hmm….. Kolb passed for 300 plus yards twice, played well;
Vick advised by Mr. Dungy to not sign with the Raiders;
Cable welcoming the critique of McNabb (not Gannon), could we see a trade in the mix in the off-season, Frye and a 2nd rounder for McNabb.
Someone Davis would be willing to sit Mr. Jamarcus Russell a year for to learn from?
just gettin a little vibe here, that maybe McNabb sees his future in Phili has come to an end and is prepping to play for another team.
October 14th, 2009 at 5:29 pm
utahraiderfan Says:
October 14th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
Is there any other team that would keep starting a QB who is as pathetic as JaCarcass ?
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I think if Russell was on another team…he would be in a better place.
The Raiders struggle to develop any talent. Only the uber-intelligent Nnamdi Asomugha and a TE that generally doesn’t fit Al Davis’ H/W/S profile seem to have emerged at all.
Is 2 hits out of 24 tries talent or luck? Could you hit 2 out of 24 at the casino?
October 14th, 2009 at 5:33 pm
BrooklynR8der,
JHill talked about hiring that kid Randy Hanson. Quite honestly…no sarcasm here…if the kid works hard and is aligned with Davis…perhaps he should be the head coach.
The job pays $2 million per year. So someone will always take the job. Jim Fassell or some other unemployed NFL coach with little shot would take the job because it will pay more than an assistant or no job at all.
$2 million is a lot of money if you live within your means. Hang out for 2 or 3 years and your set for life.
That’s the math Tom Cable did. Just turns out he is so horrible at preparation that he just might have ruined his O-Line Coaching career too. And he’s about to get fired for cause….
October 14th, 2009 at 5:35 pm
RaiderRetribution Says:
October 14th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
Lets see… hmm….. Kolb passed for 300 plus yards twice, played well;
Vick advised by Mr. Dungy to not sign with the Raiders;
Cable welcoming the critique of McNabb (not Gannon), could we see a trade in the mix in the off-season, Frye and a 2nd rounder for McNabb.
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McNabb only has a year or two left on his contract. He would probably retire before coming here and the Eagles know McNabb is their best shot at a Super Bowl.
Also, FYI, stop that Raider fan habit of pumping value into players with none. Charlie Frye is a terrible QB. So is Gradkowski. They have no value on the market place and would be out of the league if not for the Raiders.
You know who the stupid person through all this is? Andrew Walter. Could have kept working at it and got another opportunity. Sitting home making no money. Stupid.
October 14th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
Has Cable Been fired yet?!
October 14th, 2009 at 5:39 pm
Raiders are not ready to compete with the Eagles this weekend. On paper, on the field… everywhere! Raiders dont have what it takes to be competent team, from the owner to the coaching staff, the Raiders FLAWS are visible on and off the field! Every week we gotta hear “on the brink of something special” or “efforts there” or “almost there”… EXCUSES is all I hear! Those of you who dont are intitled to their opinion.
October 14th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
Jalardass, Mc falldown, and whichway-bey would prosper on any other team, any other team i tell ya!
October 14th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
SnB,
Agreed, did’nt Fassel send some letter requesting the position? Al runs the Team like a Mafia crime family..remember when he referred to “Joey Bugel” Joey? He needs to be the Boss, only weak men will work for him, no Alphas onlt Betas. if it were the streets of Brooklyn where hes from he would have been taken out years ago and replaced by new blood. The Gambino crime family fell apart when Carlo Gambino got old, Gotti took over. I really don’t mean to wish Al ill, but it’s hard not to.
October 14th, 2009 at 5:41 pm
eagles one of the best pass defensive teams in the league, above medium to above average in run defense, so our best bet to win is to run and run some more.
Feature one back allow him to get into a rythym.
October 14th, 2009 at 5:45 pm
Actually SnB, I floated the idea of Hanson being hired for the GM position, and letting him hire the coach of his choice.
October 14th, 2009 at 5:47 pm
i know weve been hard on our team lately and deservingly so, but if the Broncos can be 5=0, anything can happen
October 14th, 2009 at 5:58 pm
LMAO @ 44!!
McFalldown & Whichway-Bey!
Still LMAO!
October 14th, 2009 at 6:05 pm
Even Bill O’Reilly is taking shots at the Raiders. I am watching the replay of the Factor, and him and Dennis Miller start talking about Rush and football and it somehow get’s to Oakland.
Dennis Miller’s one-liner was “the Raiders play like the patch is over the good eye”. LOL
October 14th, 2009 at 6:05 pm
Look at us now!!
What do we need more?
1- WR, DHB, decoy, and only 2 catches & 1 run.
2- OT, RT, OHER, starter, and can be our RT & Mario at LT for the next decade!
Also if we traded down, we could gave drafted Rey.
Thank god for Madden 10.
October 14th, 2009 at 6:12 pm
I’ll be honest, I bought into that 2 down crap about Rey, but I did want 1 of the 4 OTs.
October 14th, 2009 at 6:14 pm
That’s Sad! Even TV Cast-offs are making fun of us!
FU Cable!
October 14th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
Will that stupid f’n infield be on the field this weekend anybody?
I sure hope not, this current group doesn’t seem to play to well on it.
October 14th, 2009 at 6:24 pm
I can’t understand that they waived O’Neal and I still can’t understand that they cut Lorenzo Neal… does Davis believe that Lawton will be the next Lorenzo Neal, Weaver or what? Do we have a secret weapon at this position? Jabustus Russell to the rescue!
Formula to sucess:
New Head Coach (Just sign somebody from the Patriots coaching staff) – Al Davis + GM (just get one, it can’t get worse than Davis) = SuperBowl XLV
October 14th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
The Village Idiot is due anytime to come in here and make a complete a$$ of himself.
Priesttj tell us how good JaMarshmallow will be by mid season!
October 14th, 2009 at 6:33 pm
Louis Murphy says, “We just have to step up and play. I’m new to this aspect of football. (In) school, you lose, it’s the end of the world and you try to get it done. HERE YOU HAVE MORE ROOM FOR LOSSES.”
Al must be proud. Commitment to Excellence, Baby!
I guess it’s true… money is the root of all evil. In high school, nothing to console you – “it’s the end of the world”. In the pros, it’s comforting to have the benjamins.
I like Louis, and he is young, but what a croc of a statement!
October 14th, 2009 at 6:37 pm
Does the media ever ask anyone else for interviews, or are guys like DHB, Jamarcus, Kelly never asked questions?
We get a million quotes from Murphy and nothing from DHB. It’s a big event when Jamarcus is going to be “made available” to the media. When Kelly speaks, he calls teammates “Money”.
What a bunch of clowns. What does SnB call them “Rank Quitters”, lol.
Oh well……. they won’t go 1-15. They will find a way to win a few more games somehow, let’s just enjoy the few we get.
October 14th, 2009 at 6:38 pm
the raiders should have invested in allen rossum instead of letting him fall to the cowboys.
October 14th, 2009 at 6:38 pm
Brooklynr8er,
I agree with you 100%. I didn’t expect much from the O. I said on here Sat. before the game; that patchwork line vs. the Giants deep, talented D-line was a recipe for disaster, and a disaster it was. However, I was disappointed with the defensive effort, or lack thereof.Give the G-men credit. Their offensive line is also superbowl caliber. They are an excellent, cohesive unit, and they got the best of our fairly talented D-line. Like I said the other night, I was disgusted with the effort of the linebackers. Kirk and T Howard were both very soft. The secondary was also a mess.
October 14th, 2009 at 6:44 pm
Right now Kansas City,Cleavland, and Washington look like the three best chances at another win, but none of them are a sure thing.
October 14th, 2009 at 6:48 pm
I commented two days ago. I was at the game. Gerald Warren was the only Raider that I seen who looked emotional on the sidelines. Coaches stayed apart. Position groups were fragmented. This team IS way over its head.
October 14th, 2009 at 6:50 pm
Your right Buckeyeraider, the defense should be competitive enough to at least put up a fight. I didn’t expect touchdowns on four straight possessions to start the game. I am sure the personnel are good enough to do better than that.
October 14th, 2009 at 6:51 pm
The secondary looked like a mess on Sun., but that’s the one area on the team that can be improved easily. Why Cable’s loyalty to H. Eugene? He is imo a borderline starter/journeyman. The old cliche is you don’t lose your job to injury.BS, happens all the time. Besides, Huff has earned the job. I’ve said before, in this dismal start to a season, the only silver lining in all these black clouds, was the improved play of Huff. 3 picks, making plays all over the field. He credits his improved play to studying extra film with NNamdi. Reward him. Starting FS.
October 14th, 2009 at 6:58 pm
I think pre season optimism by fans is hurting us, too. They buy into the hype and fork their money over. If we can get fans to hold on to their wallets in August and not by any tickets. Rule of thumb: As long as Al Davis is involved with football operations, we will not be good. 7 years and running. What more of a trial run do you need? Fans need to stop spending their money on anything Raiders until Al is out of football operations. But a lot of these guys won’t do it. They feel they owe something to the Raidrers, whatever. They just want to hang out with their friends at Raider games. Hang out somewhere else with the same friends. They should participate in a boycott, too.
October 14th, 2009 at 7:12 pm
This whole frickin team and coaching staff needs a piss test.
The NFL knows this as well. They are just trying to save face because it would be the biggest mass suspensions in Sports History. There wouldn’t be enough players to do the coin flip.
October 14th, 2009 at 7:12 pm
Mike Mitchell. The Raiders drafted him 2nd Rnd for a reason. It seems everyone of Jerry’s posts from practice ends with MM tweeked ankle/Knee/something. If he’s healthy enough to be on the field, he should be starting. The Raiders desperatly need his 220 lbs of physicality out there. His hit at the goal line, is the only Raider hilight I can think of. That was impressive. Starting SS.
October 14th, 2009 at 7:22 pm
If this team is taking performance enhancing drugs then that just makes there performance that much more unexplainable.
October 14th, 2009 at 7:30 pm
Walker said getting up to speed with the new system is more of an obstacle than being physically ready to play.
“I think it’s more about learning the playbook,” Walker said. “That’s the biggest issue standing in front of me. Different words and signals and nomenclature, and different quarterback.”
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Walker will be in Hog Heaven tomorrow when he finds out there is no playbook.
The ZBS is either designed to get yards for the RB or protect the QB. It would take Walker longer to eat a combo meal than it would for him to learn our playbook.
October 14th, 2009 at 7:35 pm
The team is a joke.
But what can be expected when the organization from the top down is a joke?
This is the Oakland Raiders,until monumental changes are made this is what the Raiders have become.
Worst team in the NFL.
October 14th, 2009 at 7:35 pm
1. Einstein Says:
October 14th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
# Richochet Says:
October 14th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 14th, 2009 at 12:49 pm
Raiders bumaye!!!!
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Oh, right..schools out.
Sooooo…you do your homework yet?
Get to it, boy.
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Lol, is there ANYONE that DOESN’T Diss or Pile on MR? Poor chap…
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Kind of hard not to.
Some avoid being a target.
Others can’t help it.
In MR’s case, it’s more like he paints a bullseye on his forehead, then, just to make sure, takes an arrow and jams it in.
October 14th, 2009 at 7:36 pm
jerry will they make you blog about something else when the raiders fold???
October 14th, 2009 at 7:38 pm
All the posts on here trying to sugarcoat what this “team” offers on a weekly basis need to take a long walk off a short pier.
There is no silver lining here,this team is awful.
Oakland Raiders 2009 record will be 1-15,book it!
October 14th, 2009 at 7:43 pm
OFL71….there are 31 other teams to choose from….don’t let the door hit ya!
October 14th, 2009 at 7:47 pm
Patch work O line, Embattled and overwhelemed newbie Coach, Rookie Wides, Rookie Wide out coach, limited play book = limited success.
October 14th, 2009 at 7:49 pm
I really like Mike Mitchell but the safety situation is tenuous at best. Newbie Branch, under performing, injured Eugene and Huff and Mitchell’s green green green.
Some bad reads and blown coverages by Huff have cost points and games.
Still, ALOT of great potential there for the first time I can recall off the top of my head.
October 14th, 2009 at 7:50 pm
i see diclesschet is still at it whats up little buddy??
October 14th, 2009 at 7:54 pm
Crude Earl-
I’m a realist…give it a try.
This team sucks,if you can’t see that it’s your problem.
October 14th, 2009 at 7:56 pm
Crude Earl, I’m not going to be a fan of another team. I’m going to stay, and keep bashing Al until he quits or dies. That ok with you?
October 14th, 2009 at 8:02 pm
# priesttj Says:
August 5th, 2009 at 10:43 pm
While we have yet to play a game or even a dress rehearsal. Tm Cable is doing a masterful job with the attitude of this team and keeping distractions to a minimum. It’s all business.
DHB is hell bent to show the league that he is legit. Russell gets beatup in the media for some of the dumbest stuff I’ve ever heard. I’ve never seen a QB take so much abuse for conditioning. As if he’s a ball carrier or catcher. I might be able to under stand it if he were really out of shape. But they want him in tip top shape to play Quarterback. It’s the craziest thing I’ve ever seen. Yet guy’s like Big Ben Shaun Hill the Mannings, every other QB in shape or out of shape isn’t even questioned.
His weight has never affected his play on the field, he’s been slowed by injury. But they always attack his conditioning. To day Tom Tolbert whom I had a little respect for just ripped him. Tolbert of all people whom was never in tremendous shape in his life. Played BB his entire career fat. It is obvious that the media (especially KNBR) is using slam tactics to discredit the raiders and Al Davis. As if that’s going to stop them from winning or help them lose.
Absolutely ludicrous!!
October 14th, 2009 at 8:03 pm
Crude Earl-
Optimism is the face of overwhelming futility may be enough for you but as a REAL RAIDER fan I demand much more.
October 14th, 2009 at 8:04 pm
optimism IN the face of…
October 14th, 2009 at 8:11 pm
lol @ knbr using “slam tactics” hahaha as if the Raiders dont discredit themselves without help.
October 14th, 2009 at 8:18 pm
listen guy’s we need to get to the airport sunday afternoon and not let vick leave town.
c’mon AL DAVIS make the trade don’t let him leave town SUUNDAYYYY.
October 14th, 2009 at 8:19 pm
ROUTT SUCKS I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHY HE IS ON THIS TEAM ?? EVEN AS BAD AS THEY ARE HE STAND’S OUT AS BEING BAD HE SUUUUUUCKS
October 14th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
Nnamdi21,
Branch is young and makes some mistakes, but I believe he is playing hard, and fairly well. He was a corner @UCONN, move him to nickle. Could his coverage be any worse than Routt’s. Routt is maddening. Even when he appears to be in decent coverage, he gets burned. The guy has no ball skills/awareness whatsoever.Has he ever even tipped a pass, let alone intercept one? Branch is also much less of a liability in run support. Remember him coming up and taking out that 270 lb. T.e vs the dischargers in the open field? That was impressive. Huff at fs, Mitchell at SS, Branch at NB. Routt and Eugene- asses firmly planted on pine. That would help this team a little IMO.
October 14th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
I pity most of you poor schmucks….I have it made…Though I have been a hardcore fan since the late 60’s my world doesn’t revolve around the Oakland Raiders…I have family, friends and music to turn to for fun when the Raiders aren’t playing to Al Davis’ or my standards…It’s truly amazing all the things life has to offer beyond the NFL…Maybe someday, some of you will discover that the payback on investing so much of your heart and soul into a game you’re not even physically playing, in the end doesn’t amount to squat. It’s entertainment not a way of life.
October 14th, 2009 at 8:38 pm
Crude Earl Says:
October 14th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
I pity most of you poor schmucks….I have it made…Though I have been a hardcore fan since the late 60’s my world doesn’t revolve around the Oakland Raiders…I have family, friends and music to turn to for fun when the Raiders aren’t playing to Al Davis’ or my standards…It’s truly amazing all the things life has to offer beyond the NFL…Maybe someday, some of you will discover that the payback on investing so much of your heart and soul into a game you’re not even physically playing, in the end doesn’t amount to squat. It’s entertainment not a way of life.
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PLEASE DON’T PITY ME. If youve been a fan since the 60’s then i must pity you. See i wasn’t born till 74 so i understand it must be tough to be staring the reaper in the face. And knowing that your number could be up at anytime.If you must find hobbies that cause less stress we understand and if your doctor has cautioned you about getting angry due to your high blood pressure then that’s o.k. you enjoy your music ( barry mantilow etc…) and leave the real man hobbies to us. why don’t you go to some colt’s games with your music and wonderful family talk you will fit right in there.
AS FOR ME IT’S RAIDER NATION THROUGH GOOD AND BAD. AND AS FOR ME AND THE REST OF THE NATION WE WON’T MISS ONE SOFT OLD GRANDPA ONE LITTLE BIT.
October 14th, 2009 at 8:45 pm
Obviously Nnamdi is the best player on our team.
From there I would say,in no particular order,
Lechler,T. Howard,Morrison,Z.Miller, Seymour, M.Bush,Gallery(as a G not T),Henderson,as what I would say are players who have demonstrated the ability to be good on a consistent basis.
Now out of a 53 man roster how can a team,with less than a dozen good players and possible only 2-3 great players,be expected to compete.
This is not even taking into account the coaching staff and front office.
Reality comes crashing down…
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I WOULD ADD SEABASS AND CHAZ
ROOKIES- MURPHY, BRYANT, AND M.MITCHELL
October 14th, 2009 at 8:47 pm
you… Locomotive Up an Engineer’s a$$ I really pity.
October 14th, 2009 at 8:47 pm
Obviously Nnamdi is the best player on our team.
From there I would say,in no particular order,
Lechler,T. Howard,Morrison,Z.Miller, Seymour, M.Bush,Gallery(as a G not T),Henderson,as what I would say are players who have demonstrated the ability to be good on a consistent basis.
Now out of a 53 man roster how can a team,with less than a dozen good players and possible only 2-3 great players,be expected to compete.
This is not even taking into account the coaching staff and front office.
Reality comes crashing down…
October 14th, 2009 at 8:51 pm
Mike Bush is good on a consistent basis?? Hmm… must a missed that one.
October 14th, 2009 at 8:52 pm
to be good on a “consistent basis”. Which implies hes been good on a consistent basis before. Try again.
October 14th, 2009 at 8:53 pm
Nice Try…but baltantly false….My alliegence to the Raiders has never faultered… Cussing and whinning about the teams shortcomings and pretending to have all the answer like a junior G M doesn’t make you a better fan….it makes you an immature one.
October 14th, 2009 at 8:53 pm
Crude Earl Says:
October 14th, 2009 at 8:47 pm
you… Locomotive Up an Engineer’s a$$ I really pity.
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LOL
HAVE FUN AT THAT COLT’S GAME !!!! MUUUUUUUA
October 14th, 2009 at 8:53 pm
Crude Earl-
How can you say you’re a “hardcore Raider fan” and then proceed to say “it’s entertainment not a way of life”?
Rhetorical question there guy cause any REAL Raider fan knows that being a REAL Raider fan IS a way of life.
October 14th, 2009 at 8:54 pm
Nice Try…but baltantly false….My alliegence to the Raiders has never faultered… Cussing and whinning about the teams shortcomings and pretending to have all the answer like a junior G M doesn’t make you a better fan….it makes you an immature one.
October 14th, 2009 at 8:54 pm
UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER Says:
October 14th, 2009 at 8:45 pm
Obviously Nnamdi is the best player on our team.
From there I would say,in no particular order,
Lechler,T. Howard,Morrison,Z.Miller, Seymour, M.Bush,Gallery(as a G not T),Henderson,as what I would say are players who have demonstrated the ability to be good on a consistent basis.
Now out of a 53 man roster how can a team,with less than a dozen good players and possible only 2-3 great players,be expected to compete.
This is not even taking into account the coaching staff and front office.
Reality comes crashing down…
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I WOULD ADD SEABASS AND CHAZ
ROOKIES- MURPHY, BRYANT, AND M.MITCHELL
DAMN WORD PRESS.
October 14th, 2009 at 8:55 pm
OFL71 Says:
October 14th, 2009 at 8:53 pm
Crude Earl-
How can you say you’re a “hardcore Raider fan” and then proceed to say “it’s entertainment not a way of life”?
Rhetorical question there guy cause any REAL Raider fan knows that being a REAL Raider fan IS a way of life.
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HE’S A TROLL
October 14th, 2009 at 8:55 pm
notice where it reads “demonstrated the ability” then try again
October 14th, 2009 at 8:58 pm
demonstrated the ability to be good on a consistent basis means hes been consistently good before. Period. Endo.
October 14th, 2009 at 8:58 pm
Dude Says-
notice where it reads “demonstrated the ability” then try again
October 14th, 2009 at 8:58 pm
man i would love to hear we traded for vick. that would make my day
imho he is the best non starting quarterback in the league, he is dynamic, and he would give the team an instant charge.
when he played in a-town they always had a chance to win.
o.k i know i’m swinging off his nutzz like tarzan i’ll stop but he would be a 100 percent improvement ove JaPoatRoast.
October 14th, 2009 at 9:01 pm
http://www.retirealdavis.com
October 14th, 2009 at 9:02 pm
OFL71 Says:
October 14th, 2009 at 8:55 pm
notice where it reads “demonstrated the ability” then try again
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i didn’t mean to offend you and agree with everyone on your list i just added a few.
i think seabass and chaz have without a doubt shown ability.
murphy as well
i guess i put m.mitchell in there for the hit he laid on that running back from the giant’s sunday on the goaline. man he hit that guy hard.
d. bryant has imo shown some ability as has trevor scott.
October 14th, 2009 at 9:04 pm
Dude Says-
When taken out of context,it can be twisted into anything you like.
Feel free to keep trying to change my OPINION.
October 14th, 2009 at 9:05 pm
well since the dud says it’s over it must be over.
October 14th, 2009 at 9:11 pm
Whats your opinion tough guy? Tell me what you “really” meant.
October 14th, 2009 at 9:12 pm
Locomotive-
It’s just my OPINION(as some are failing to notice)and yours is just fine,since it’s an opinion and it belongs to you.
October 14th, 2009 at 9:16 pm
Dear Dude Says-
What I meant was exactly what I said.
I’m not the type to get into a verbal cage match via a computer screen in order to show how “tough” I am.
There’s plenty of other sparring partners for you around here.
Have fun with all that.
October 14th, 2009 at 9:18 pm
Oh come on now, dont be such a wuss. All I asked you to do is explain how Bush has been consistent. Grow a pair.
October 14th, 2009 at 9:27 pm
“We just have to step up and play. I’m new to this aspect of football. (In) school, you lose, it’s the end of the world and you try to get it done. Here you have more room for losses.”
Good to see Murphy caught on to the Raiders new code of excellence.
October 14th, 2009 at 9:32 pm
“what I would say are players who have demonstrated the ability to be good on a consistent basis.”
If you notice the statement WHAT I WOULD SAY.
Which strictly implies an opinion,which is what it was and exactly what I meant.
If this is beyond your capability of comprehension then there’s nothing more I can do for you.
When you choose to begin with the “tough guy” remarks it shows what kind of intentions you have and I am not interested in engagingz;slckOPZSIjf1-iou2c4hj -1io
October 14th, 2009 at 9:34 pm
oops
“what I would say are players who have demonstrated the ability to be good on a consistent basis.”
If you notice the statement WHAT I WOULD SAY.
Which strictly implies an opinion,which is what it was and exactly what I meant.
If this is beyond your capability of comprehension then there’s nothing more I can do for you.
When you choose to begin with the “tough guy” remarks it shows what kind of intentions you have and I am not interested in engaging in computer brawls.
It’s childish.
October 14th, 2009 at 9:34 pm
engagingz;slckOPZSIjf1-iou2c4hj -1io
wtf ???
c’mon stop right there we don’t make fun of the way jamarcuss talks some people consider it racist. lol
October 14th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
wordpress can be odd at times…
October 14th, 2009 at 9:40 pm
Well it looks like PFT just indicated that Cable will not be arrested and no charges moving forward. All three asst coaches didnt corroborate Hanson’s version…..OOOPPS
The raiders are expected to aggressively get Cable’s version out once the criminal investigation is dismissed….OOOPPPS
October 14th, 2009 at 9:55 pm
I just started to create a post where I listed the guys worth keeping. Then I realized I was listing far, far too many for a 1-4 team that has been blown out of the water for three straight weeks.
One area that clearly stood out as lacking was offensive line. Only Henderson and Gallery rate as guys you can count on or even have some faith in at this point to be the kind of players that make a winning team. And Gallery is out right now.
So this brings me to the two areas that get the most credit when things go well, and the most blame when things stink — the QB and the head coach. And you know what, it’s absolutely deserved that they get the credit and the blame.
To me, the two most important people in an NFL organization are the QB and the head coach, probably in that order. There are a few instances where maybe that’s not the case (Ray Lewis in Baltimore), but I think overwhelmingly it is.
Look at the Super Bowl winning QBs from this decade:
- Tom Brady, 3
- Ben Roethlisberger, 2
- Peyton Manning, 1
- Kurt Warner, 1
- Eli Manning, 1
- Brad Johnson, 1 (played with a great defense and was more successful than people remember: 2-time Pro Bowler, 28th highest career passer rating in NFL history)
- Trent Dilfer, 1 (played with 1 of the 3 greatest defenses of all-time, bit of an aberration)
5 of those 7 guys could be Hall of Famers when it’s all said and done, and it’s not because of winning one Super Bowl. They’ve proven greatness over multiple seasons and in the case of Manning and Brady have been the constants on teams that have been great for a long time despite huge roster turnover since they began. In short, those teams won Super Bowls because they had great QBs. They aren’t great QBs because they won Super Bowls.
Super Bowl winning coaches this decade:
Belichick, 3
Dungy, 1
Gruden, 1
Cowher, 1
Tomlin, 1
Billick, 1
Coughlin, 1
All of those guys are considered good/great coaches who succeeded in more than one organization and/or for such a long time in one that it’s hard to doubt their greatness. Belichick had two SB rings from his D coordinator days with the Giants. Dungy turned the league laughingstock Bucs around. Cowher went to two Super Bowls a decade apart and consistently cranked out playoff teams in Pitt for over a decade. Gruden turned the Raiders around before winning a ring in Tampa. Coughlin had tremendous success with the expansion Jags long before going to NY. Tomlin is too soon to tell but by all accounts has excelled in a short career. Billick ran one of the greatest offenses in NFL history in Minnesota before leading the Ravens to a title.
I have real high hopes for JaMarcus. I want to be patient. But it’s also getting to the point where we need to know if the team around him sucks so incredibly bad that wholesale changes have to be made, or if he’s the only major problem. I say give him a few games with a 100% healthy Schilens. See if that changes anything. If it doesn’t, and the offense is still as bad as it has been, you need to stick in Frye or Gradkowski and see what happens. If things continue as bad as they’ve been going or even get worse (as they did when Andrew Walter started vs. Carolina last year) it tells you something. If things get significantly better, it tells you something.
Cable took over a bad team but had an uninspiring 11-35 head coaching record at the U (of Idaho) before landing the Raiders job. That stint included 1-10, 2-10 and 3-9 seasons before he was shown the door. Pile on a 5-12 record with the Raiders including 8 completely non-competitive blowout losses and it’s fair to question if this guy is an acceptable choice to be the head coach of an NFL team.
So, assuming things don’t get drastically better …
Step 1) Bench JaMarcus and see how the offense plays with a new leader. If the offense improves and we start winning games, we know the QB position is the real source of our problems. If things don’t improve at all …
Step 2) Fire Cable. The team has been an embarrassment to the fans and the NFL in 8 of 17 games under his leadership. If that were continue under a different QB there’s no way he can be kept on.
It’s to the point where one or both of these guys could go and the fans would be thrilled. But there’s so much invested in JaMarcus that you want to give him every chance before pulling the plug and acknowledge his o-line has been a mess and he’s playing with 2 rookie WRs. And it’s not entirely fair to dump Cable until you make sure the QB alone isn’t the real source of our misery.
October 14th, 2009 at 10:11 pm
FFFFFF****************CCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!
The Raiders suck.
I hate this crap.
October 14th, 2009 at 10:15 pm
Oakland’s offensive ineptitude has caught Cable by surprise, he said.
“It’s just the (in)ability of putting the ball in the end zone,” Cable said. “I just felt we would be so much better at that than what we have been. And it boils down to all those fundamental things of execution, consistency running it, consistency throwing it.”
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WOW! What a f’n genius. I can’t believe this moron will make it through the season as the head coach.
October 14th, 2009 at 10:38 pm
What would you consider a blowout? Losing by 20 points or more seem fair to categorize as a blowout?
If so, since Cable has taken over as head coach, this team has been blown out of 7 games. That’s out of a total of 17 games. 41% blowout percentage. DAM!!
For comparison, Shell’s 2006 team was blown out 4 times in 16 games. And Kiffin’s team was blown out 3 times in 20 games.
October 14th, 2009 at 10:59 pm
“What would you consider a blowout? Losing by 20 points or more seem fair to categorize as a blowout?
If so, since Cable has taken over as head coach, this team has been blown out of 7 games. That’s out of a total of 17 games. 41% blowout percentage. DAM!!
For comparison, Shell’s 2006 team was blown out 4 times in 16 games. And Kiffin’s team was blown out 3 times in 20 games.”
Like I’ve been sayin…it’s getting worse
October 14th, 2009 at 11:13 pm
Crude Earl-
Since you’re the “expert” about immaturity,wouldn’t name calling,i.e. “poor schmucks” fall into that category?
But that’s different right…
October 14th, 2009 at 11:45 pm
That’s what’s so disturbing about this team under Cable is the sheer #’s of blowout loses. And it’s due in part to his belief that Russell is further along than he really is. The fact that he will rely on his passing game which is the weakest part of the team early in games and before you know it the game is out of control.
If cable would shorten the game by running and becoming more of a physical style of team we would be in games alot more consistently.
We have IMO a top 5 – 10 talent at HB in Bush with excellent backups and we haven’t used them to our advantage at all. It’s mindboggling!!! There are a ton of ways to get the ball to DHB for bigplay potential ways that allow him to get the ball easily and run with it. But he doesn’t see the need to do that. Bubble screens are something he did a lot at Maryland. They could use them the same way they use Percy Harvin in Minn just manufacture ways to get him touches and involved in the offense but he just keeps doing the same thing with the same results and it’s extremely frustrating because I know Cable has that in his gameplans we just don’t see it.
October 14th, 2009 at 11:49 pm
priest i dont think it is in his playbook. cable seems so damn stubborn with everything from playcalling to personell moves. i hate this oren oneal move like hell. we shouldve cut pears monday.that dude is a piece of trash. oneal had no business being on the field this year. his injury was very serious and we shouldve shut him down like we did bush 2 years ago. why the hell didnt we cut lawton?
October 14th, 2009 at 11:52 pm
i had issues with his playcalling last year. we shouldve scored more against denver in denver and that last drive of the tampa game we were at the 2 yardline and big dummy kept running a tired bush up the middle. no PA to miller or some kind of bootleg. he leaves alot of points on the board with his play selection inside the redzone. dont care for his personell groupings either.
October 15th, 2009 at 12:00 am
I remember when they first hired Cable and I thought at least the O line would be excellent, considering his reputation.
Wrong.
They didn’t even broadcast the 2nd half where I live.
October 15th, 2009 at 12:02 am
we do run too many deep routes and people wonder why russ holds on to the ball 2 long. hes looking downfield for the route to develope while that wackass oline gets bullied. he has no eye for true oline talent. and i agree with u about letting go of marcus johnson. he was physical as hell at rg and would be a huge upgrade over what we have now. he may have needed some work but could he be any worse than morris satele pears? he wont even give mcquistan a chance. and dammit let j walker play now! watkins sucks and we have enuff young wrs already especially when n miller gets back.
October 15th, 2009 at 12:08 am
his is the worst I’ve ever seen.
I’ll always be a Raider fan.
But you have to detach yourself.
It’s just too painful and I see no light at the end of the tunnel.
October 15th, 2009 at 12:17 am
Armond, I hate to say it but I agree with everything you said. Marcus Johnson has talent he lasted on the open market 2 days.
The OO move is mystifying at best. I’m not sure what’s going on there my suspicion is he is not healthy. He never really got healthy and to say he was treated unfairly is what happens in this game. It’s a results based business and the pressure to win this next game is extremely intense. That’s why teams make lots of mistakes like I think this will prove to be. They rushed him back and when he couldn’t respond they cut him. But I think he’ll by back certainly.
October 15th, 2009 at 12:21 am
Let’s see if they’ll get back to running the football aggressively. IMHO untill they do we will struggle offensively.
October 15th, 2009 at 12:38 am
# Richochet Says:
October 14th, 2009 at 7:35 pm
1. Einstein Says:
October 14th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
# Richochet Says:
October 14th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 14th, 2009 at 12:49 pm
Raiders bumaye!!!!
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Oh, right..schools out.
Sooooo…you do your homework yet?
Get to it, boy.
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Lol, is there ANYONE that DOESN’T Diss or Pile on MR? Poor chap…
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Kind of hard not to.
Some avoid being a target.
Others can’t help it.
In MR’s case, it’s more like he paints a bullseye on his forehead, then, just to make sure, takes an arrow and jams it in.
.,……….
Talk about the pot calling the kettle black, you’re a bigger target that anyone in here, Ricochet. It makes your name fitting. Although, considering how often you’re here, I don’t think the shots everyone’s taking at you are ricocheting off of you anymore. They’re piercing right through you, and bringing out an emotional, feminine siren that reports back dozens of times per day and refuses to shut up.
October 15th, 2009 at 12:42 am
“We were three-and-out so quick, have the turnover and you’re down 28-0, so it’s not a great position to be in,” tight end Zach Miller said.
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Notice how Zach didn’t throw JaMarcus under the bus … that’s too bad … he should have.
October 15th, 2009 at 12:47 am
Chris in NY Says:
October 14th, 2009 at 9:55 pm
So, assuming things don’t get drastically better …
Step 1) Bench JaMarcus and see how the offense plays with a new leader. If the offense improves and we start winning games, we know the QB position is the real source of our problems. If things don’t improve at all …
fired Cable.
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Completely agree 100% … nothing is changing week after week same old bs.
October 15th, 2009 at 12:50 am
# Crude Earl Says:
October 14th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
I pity most of you poor schmucks….I have it made…Though I have been a hardcore fan since the late 60’s my world doesn’t revolve around the Oakland Raiders…I have family, friends and music to turn to for fun when the Raiders aren’t playing to Al Davis’ or my standards…It’s truly amazing all the things life has to offer beyond the NFL…Maybe someday, some of you will discover that the payback on investing so much of your heart and soul into a game you’re not even physically playing, in the end doesn’t amount to squat. It’s entertainment not a way of life.
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How much money do you spend on the Raiders per year, Mr. “I’m above this whole football thing, I’ve got a life”? I’ve spent exactly $0 on the Raiders since trading Gruden. I’ll bet you have season tickets, which mean you wipe your a ss with thousands of dollars every year on this awful excuse for an NFL football team. And, you’re telling everyone else to forget about football. HA HA HA!!!
October 15th, 2009 at 12:54 am
# Crude Earl Says:
October 14th, 2009 at 8:53 pm
Nice Try…but baltantly false….My alliegence to the Raiders has never faultered…
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^^^ One second he’s talking about how he has a great social life, friends, etc., now he’s talking as if having an allegiance to an NFL football team is some kind of honorable thing. Having a life and taking football so seriously that you view a fan’s disloyalty to their team as treason are two mutually exclusive things.
October 15th, 2009 at 12:57 am
# alisgod Says:
October 14th, 2009 at 9:40 pm
Well it looks like PFT just indicated that Cable will not be arrested and no charges moving forward. All three asst coaches didnt corroborate Hanson’s version…..OOOPPS
The raiders are expected to aggressively get Cable’s version out once the criminal investigation is dismissed….OOOPPPS
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Oh, great news. We’re rolling now, aren’t we? The coach who’s 1-4 is not getting arrested. Thank God! What would we do without Cable?
October 15th, 2009 at 1:00 am
Armond, do you honestly believe Cable is in charge of playcalling AND personnel moves? OMG….
October 15th, 2009 at 1:03 am
# priesttj Says:
October 15th, 2009 at 12:21 am
Let’s see if they’ll get back to running the football aggressively. IMHO untill they do we will struggle offensively.
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I told you guys all summer we weren’t going to run the football. Cable surprised me in weeks 1 and 2 by running the ball. Since then, he’s proved me right.
October 15th, 2009 at 4:38 am
The California Senate has voted to allow developers of a proposed 75,000-seat football stadium in the Southern California city of Industry an environmental exemption that allows construction to move forward.
If signed by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, the bill that was approved Wednesday on a 21-14 vote, would nullify a lawsuit by residents in the neighboring city of Walnut, who claimed that Industry approved the project without sufficiently reviewing its environmental impact.
Officials with developer Majestic Realty Co. have said that they would begin approaching NFL teams about moving to the area when the current season ends.
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Welcome the return of the L.A. Raiders?
October 15th, 2009 at 5:07 am
Good Morning NATION!!!
October 15th, 2009 at 5:13 am
RUN THE DAMN BALL!
October 15th, 2009 at 5:15 am
Get Gallery back…put in Walker at RG and Quiz at RT and then run 2 tight ends and blast away.
October 15th, 2009 at 5:16 am
Never a dull moment…anyway;didnt Big Al take 10 million from the City of Industry already 4 just looking at them as a possible place 2 play…across from the Miller Brewing Company???
Gawd Southern Calli and Miller Beer…It dont get NO worse than that,imo
October 15th, 2009 at 5:32 am
alisgod Says:
October 14th, 2009 at 9:40 pm
Well it looks like PFT just indicated that Cable will not be arrested and no charges moving forward. All three asst coaches didnt corroborate Hanson’s version…..OOOPPS
The raiders are expected to aggressively get Cable’s version out once the criminal investigation is dismissed….OOOPPPS
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LMAO
October 15th, 2009 at 5:49 am
# 4evaRaider Says:
October 15th, 2009 at 5:16 am
Never a dull moment…anyway;didnt Big Al take 10 million from the City of Industry already 4 just looking at them as a possible place 2 play…across from the Miller Brewing Company???
Gawd Southern Calli and Miller Beer…It dont get NO worse than that,imo
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I believe that was Azuza… they dug that big azz hole in the ground and all they got was a thank you from Al Davis for their 10 Million dollar donation to the Raiders
October 15th, 2009 at 5:50 am
UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER Says:
October 14th, 2009 at 8:18 pm
listen guy’s we need to get to the airport sunday afternoon and not let vick leave town.
c’mon AL DAVIS make the trade don’t let him leave town SUUNDAYYYY.
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NEWS FLASH!!!
Well it looks like all YOU PEOPLE that wanted Vick will get your chance!!!
Big Al has set up what looks like a series of jumps and run through 4 Vick 2 show if he still “has it”.
1st up…the Water Tank: this one is designed 2 show how long vick can hold his breath under-water!!! And 2 get the fans truely behind this competition the Raider NATION all put their names in a raffle box and maybe win a prize and participate in this compitition!!!And the lucky NATION member is….drum roll……………………………….
4evaRaider!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So here we are ready 4 the 1st competition and 4eva heads right over to the…Water Tank!!!
4eva places the straps around Vicks ankles,the straps are connected 2 a little crane!!!
4eva centers vick over the middle of the tank and lowers vick,head 1st into the water.
With blinding violence 4eva start pulling back and forth on the crane lever srceamimg he cant pull vick out!!!
the whole crowd is yelling to PULL the control BACK but 4eva must be confused and he thinks BACK means FOWARD O NO!!!
But this announcer must say vick is showing plenty of life in the tank.Why,just look at him fight 4 HIS LIFE!!!The fans are getting their moneys worth 2day,we can all see that.
Well it looks like 4eva is tiring from frantically PUSHING the control UP instead of DOWN
And what do you know..vick is slowing down to.
Oh well it was a fun day while it lasted!!!
Too bad vick COULDNT make the team as he stopped moving 2 soon 4 the likes of Big AL
Oh well I’m sure there will be MANY more competitions in the future as long as the vick family and there ilk ARE breathing in air they DO NOT DESERVE 2 BREATH
October 15th, 2009 at 5:50 am
Damn have to break out my old early 90’s LA Raiders Hat and parka Ice Cube style.
October 15th, 2009 at 6:02 am
Yeah I remember route 39 Azuza highway always being closed when I lived in that area.
October 15th, 2009 at 6:10 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
October 15th, 2009 at 6:13 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S, IRWINDALE..WHEREEVER THE HELL THAT IS.
October 15th, 2009 at 6:15 am
I wouldn’t be shocked if you guys are right about the L.A. Raiders.
The dirt infield cutting across the field is a joke for an NFL team, but the real reason Al may move is no new stadium and too few luxury boxes for his liking. Luxury boxes are extremely attractive to owners because they pocket that money. It’s not subject to revenue sharing.
Doesn’t look like the Raiders will get a new stadium in Oakland anytime soon, especially with the economy and their current level of play, so Al is probably considering a move.
I’m not saying it’s necessarily likely to happen and you guys out there definitely know more about it than me, but it seems like it could become a real possibility, especially if the other teams being discussed either stay put (Vikings, Saints, Colts) or stink and probably have less of a following in southern Cal (Jags, Rams, Chargers (ha-ha)).
October 15th, 2009 at 6:18 am
Thank You Dirt-Lot!!!
Irwindale it is
October 15th, 2009 at 6:27 am
You guys think that Vick will leave here with a contract from Big Al? You know what? At least he can move and throw the ball. Upgrade? Is anything an upgrade right now?
Anyways…wil be there Sunday to support…
Dirt Lot…will you be there Sunday?
October 15th, 2009 at 6:28 am
Rise n Shine Nation! Happy thursday. I haven’t had a chance to comment on Chaz comming back this week so let me chime in……………………………ok done. Lets see how we fare against Philly this week. I hope they don’t do as much damage as NY did. CJ better be ready because that guy D.Jackson has lots of speed and McNabb will go deep.
October 15th, 2009 at 6:32 am
very good and pointed question Hwnrdr…
Every one knows where I stand on this 1 =)
October 15th, 2009 at 6:34 am
THERE IS NO DOUGHT AL’S MIND IS GRINDING RIGHT NOW. PROBABLY HAS TRASK WORKING ON SCENARIO’S AND OPTION’S. ANYTHING, I SAY ANYTHING IS POSSABLE..
October 15th, 2009 at 6:36 am
Hnwdr, 4eva what’s happening? You guys get some joe this morning? I agree that Vick is an upgrade, I wish we had him
October 15th, 2009 at 6:42 am
Already had my 2 cups
October 15th, 2009 at 6:44 am
HEY HWNDR,WILL MISS THIS WEEK ALSO,SORRY.WILL BE AT K.C GAME 4SURE..
October 15th, 2009 at 6:44 am
Irwindale’s Fumble of Raider Bid Still Stings
By PETER Y. HONG, SPECIAL TO THE TIMES and RICHARD WINTON, SPECIAL TO THE TIMES|February 08, 1999
Long before Carson and Los Angeles trotted out grand stadium designs and deep-pocketed backers to battle for a professional football team, another Southern California town taught everyone how not to bargain for an NFL franchise.
Quarry-pocked Irwindale, about 18 miles east of downtown and the Los Angeles Coliseum, gave the Oakland-Los Angeles-Oakland Raiders a $10-million “deposit” a dozen years ago. The city of 1,000 residents lost the cash when the team decided not to move there after all…………..
http://articles.latimes.com/1999/feb/08/local/me-6055
October 15th, 2009 at 6:47 am
GOOD AFTER-NOON LADY’S AND GENTELMAN, AND WELCOME TO “THE RAIDER-CRATOR” JUST OUTSIDE LOVELY IRWINDALE CALIF. 4 2DAY’S GAME ..
October 15th, 2009 at 6:48 am
I’m posting too fast.
Irwindale screwed up. Cound not get it’s end done. Al Davis was sincere in his efforts.
“The Irwindale football deal fell apart over two years, finally collapsing in 1989. The deal was held up first by lawsuits over the project’s environmental impact and city subsidies, then was aborted by the Raiders because of Irwindale’s inability to arrange financing and secure a definite site for the stadium.”
October 15th, 2009 at 6:49 am
Thankx Exla…
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Nell Tapia, 73, said she wants Davis to stay in Oakland.
“His team isn’t good anyway,” she said.
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Man a 73 year old lady is giving Big Al da business lol
October 15th, 2009 at 6:57 am
We should bench CJ this week, stick Nnamdi on Desean and switch DHB to defense and have him cover Maclin.
Knowing Al, it would be the perfect way to prove his WR was better.
At least we don’t have to suffer through CJ blowing a ton of coverages then.
October 15th, 2009 at 6:59 am
Long read but the Court Opinion in the Raider’s favor on their lawsuit against Oakland for damages. Sets out little known facts about the Raiders to build luxury boxes and suites in L.A. and how they lost income from the 1984 Olympics because of Oakland.
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data2/circs/9th/9770123p.pdf
October 15th, 2009 at 7:04 am
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October 15th, 2009 at 7:05 am
Here’s an article before the deal was cancelled from 1987:
Talking Deals: Raiders’ Town: First and Long
By Judith Cummings
Published: Thursday, August 27, 1987
WITH a signed agreement to build a 65,000-seat football stadium for the Los Angeles Raiders, Irwindale, Calif., stands to become the little town that landed a very big deal.
If all goes according to plan, Irwindale (pop. 1,161) will score the coup by lining up the financing for the $115 million cost of the stadium and by treating the Raiders’ managing general partner, Al Davis, like a first-pick draft choice. The town agreed to pay him a signing fee of $10 million that would be his even if the deal falls through.
To be sure, Irwindale must still get approval from angry Los Angeles County supervisors, most of them with political loyalties to the team’s present home at the Los Angeles Coliseum, for the use of county-leased land for a stadium parking lot.
Then, too, even if the stadium is built and the Raiders move in, there is the question of whether Irwindale has taken on too great a financial burden. The debt is expected to cost about $9 million a year to service. Yet the agreement gives the Raiders all proceeds from ticket sales and any claims by the franchise to income from broadcasting. The town will get half the proceeds from premium seating, such as luxury box suites, and stadium concessions, including parking and concert rentals. Town officials also hope to see increased economic activity in the area.
Analysts, however, believe that Irwindale’s gamble will pay off. ”Concessions are highly profitable and, if you’re talking luxury suites, that adds up to big dollars,” said Laurence Charney, a partner in Ernst & Whinney and a sports and entertainment analyst.
The deal literally started with a hole in the ground – in this case, a depleted gravel pit 160 feet deep adjacent to a freeway. Irwindale was obligated to help the pit’s owner, Calmat, a mining company, fill the hole. Instead, it offered to take the pit off Calmat’s hands and used the 80-acre site as a gift to attract the Raiders. A Calmat spokesman declined to confirm such an offer.
In the early stages of the talks with the Raiders, the sight of the huge hole itself almost killed the deal, said the Raiders’ chief negotiator, John Herrera. ”The first time I went out there and saw a 160-foot-deep gravel pit, I thought, ‘What in the world am I doing here?’ ” he said. ”That was the first hurdle we had to get over.”
Mr. Davis saw the pit in mid-June on a helicopter tour, flying down beneath its rim, Mr. Herrera said. It was on that day that Irwindale sent to Raiders’ headquarters in El Segundo, Calif., a proposal showing that it had $100 million with which to make an offer to build a stadium.
Irwindale, 19 1/2 miles from downtown Los Angeles, had the money from a recent tax-exempt bond deal that had been earmarked for general economic development. The money, Mr. Herrera said, convinced club officials that the little town was serious.
But at that point, Mr. Davis, unhappy with municipal stadium landlords in Los Angeles and earlier in Oakland, insisted on ownership of the new stadium. And lawyers concluded that the proceeds of the earlier tax-exempt offering could not be applied if the Raiders owned the stadium.
The proposal was then altered to substitute a proposed taxable bond issue for $80 million. Irwindale says it has a triple A bond rating and has lined up institutional investors for the bonds. The rest of the $115 million stadium financing will come from private investors, Irwindale’s treasury and $10 million in general obligation bonds to be voted on by the town’s residents on Nov. 3, City Manager Charles Martin said.
For their part, the Raiders are obligated to stay in Irwindale for 19 years, said Frederick P. Lyte, head of the Irwindale Redevelopment Agency. That is time enough, he said, to more than repay the financing. ”The bondholders demanded that the team be locked in and we provided it for them,” he said. If the Raiders stop playing before 2006, ownership of the stadium goes over to Irwindale.
The biggest stumbling block, both sides agreed, was Mr. Davis’s insistence on a $10 million advance – a signing fee, in effect. There is a deadline of Nov. 4 on the parking lot question and on voter approval of the $10 million general obligation bond deal. ”We made it clear that to make a commitment there had to be a substantial up-front payment to satisfy us that the community was not going to let anything get in the way,” Mr. Herrera said. Mr. Davis also got a commitment for $2.5 million a year in gross stadium revenues for operating expenses.
The Irwindale City Council wrestled, in three sessions, with the proposed $10 million payment before giving its approval, Mr. Martin said. ”That was a big pill to swallow,” he said. ”Al Davis operates on signing fees. That’s the way they operate in football. If you want somebody you expect to pay a big fee up front. It’s a $10 million gamble.”
October 15th, 2009 at 7:05 am
Sounds good G. Warren but why don’t you step your game every once in a while and show us on the field? Get your team fired up with a bull rush sack for once!
Why can’t you tell them to fall in line and get off the team. Why is the thought process go tell Cable or Mr Davis??? That is so child like, you are a man a big man get in someones face and tell them how it is.
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“Well, if I can identify any player on this team that can accept losing, then that’s something I think I have to take to Mr. Davis and Coach Cable,” Warren said. “We don’t accept losing. No matter what the outcome of the game is, we want to be victorious, no matter how long it takes to get the victory. And if a guy can walk in and say, ‘Man, I gave my all, but we lost,’ we don’t need you in this locker room. Cause we’re here to win.”
October 15th, 2009 at 7:12 am
welcome back chaz and langston too bad it aint gonna do an ounce of good as long as AD insists that we play his style of football we r gonna suck i had hopes for a 9-7 season we will lucky if we win 3 games AD the nfl the fans and the city of oakland deserve better than this u were great once but that time has passed bye time to step down
October 15th, 2009 at 7:15 am
Last one on Irwindale. Al Davis in this Sports Ill. article was going to build a Raider Hall of Fame http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1066472/index.htm
October 15th, 2009 at 7:16 am
The 9th court of appeals has already ruled that Oakland and the NFL could not take the team way from Al Davis.
October 15th, 2009 at 7:17 am
The Vick issue is interesting how it can be interpreted several different ways.
Too much money invested in JaRock to bring someone like Vick to undermind, however at this point I would think Al would consider anything to see a win before he passes.
Regardless if Vick were to come on board, we dont have a coach that trusts his players… OTHERWISE we might have already seen Wildcat with McFadden as he made it trendy when he ran it at Arkansas, yet we haven’t come close to seeing that since we drafted him.
Let alone returning kicks when that is an area of need. I say… if we guarenteed DHB 23.5 MILLION for 2 catches in four games, put him back there.
Then again, maybe he cant catch kickoffs either….
October 15th, 2009 at 7:18 am
The NFL should go to the courts and try to take the team away from Davis. It’s not in the NFL’s best interests to let this continue. It’s not like Davis hasn’t sued the league a few times. Return the favor already.
October 15th, 2009 at 7:38 am
Ahh…the flotsam in Big Al’s wake
October 15th, 2009 at 7:41 am
Well, at least we all have the Lakers!
October 15th, 2009 at 7:44 am
I’m tellin ya guys, we should line up DHB across from Maclin. At the very least it would be good for a few laughs. (which we will need cause we are going to get blown out again)
October 15th, 2009 at 7:53 am
173…didnt you see 171???
October 15th, 2009 at 7:59 am
C’mon, Jon – you know it’s gold.
October 15th, 2009 at 8:02 am
Big Al has the FINEST PROFESSIONAL SECURITY money can buy
October 15th, 2009 at 8:05 am
“Big Al has the FINEST PROFESSIONAL SECURITY money can buy”
Willie Brown with a Louisville Slugger.
October 15th, 2009 at 8:07 am
The Dark One, Supreme Commander of the Silver & Black, has just relocated the team to City of Angels and jettisoned head coach Tom Cable and his sidekick former Raider All Pro Rich Gannon are on a mission of vengeance, in hot pursuit of their former employer.
The Dark One is meeting with the Sleazy One at a secret location somewhere in the Southland.
October 15th, 2009 at 8:08 am
LMAO!!!
October 15th, 2009 at 8:08 am
Roski: Al, welcome. I haven’t been this excited since I went BASE jumping in the Congo for my 65th birthday.
Al: I haven’t been this excited since Super Bowl XV. That was the finest hour in the history of the Oakland Raiders. In fact, I need to be changed. Herrera!!
Roski: Um, Al – wasn’t Mr. Herrera decapitated in the melee in Alameda yesterday?
Al: Why, yes. Yes he was. Wish I coulda done it myself to be honest. No matter, I’ll have you change me when we’re done. Let’s talk luxury boxes.
Roski: We can do that. Uh, luxury boxes that is. Plenty of ‘em. If I know one thing about Al Davis, it’s that he hates the NFL and doesn’t want to share any of his hard-swindled, er, earned money with them. I know you’ve been after this for 30 years, Al and I want to make it happen for you.
Al: Fantastic.
October 15th, 2009 at 8:10 am
Step 1…creating the “diversion”
October 15th, 2009 at 8:12 am
Roski: You’ll see by this miniature replica of the stadium that it seats 70,000, has a state of the art video board, internet café, team museum, and torture room – for your enemies of course.
October 15th, 2009 at 8:12 am
Al (tearing up): Fantastic. Can we get this done, Roski? I need to be for sure. Oakland is already on the verge of a riot. I can’t announce a move and have the deal fall through.
October 15th, 2009 at 8:13 am
Roski: I’ve already had my people softening up the City of Industry. They’re ready to go. Plan B is similar to what I did with the Staples Center downtown. I’ve already purchased a small piece of the ghetto in South Central Los Angeles. I’ll kick the slime out and give them all kinds of incentives to relocate to the Antelope Valley, where they can move right into my planned communities. Built ‘em over a toxic spill site. Half price.
October 15th, 2009 at 8:14 am
Al: You are one cut-throat son of a b*tch, Roski, and a fine young man.
Roski: Uh, Al, I was born in ’38.
Al: Like I said…..
October 15th, 2009 at 8:15 am
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ahh this is GREAT
October 15th, 2009 at 8:16 am
Clearly the players have had enough JaMorbidlyobese now. Those “player who can accept losing” comments were aimed squarely at his 310 pounds.
October 15th, 2009 at 8:17 am
4evaRaider Says:
October 15th, 2009 at 8:15 am
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ahh this is GREAT
word press IIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 15th, 2009 at 8:18 am
Am I wrong??? Wasn’t Oren O’ Neal supposed to be the fullback of the century according to the staff. Now he’s cut??? Lorenzo gets broomed in the preseason to make room for……someone who’s gonna get cut in week 6 so we can make room for a lineman who wasn’t good enough for us two years ago and apparently isn’t good enough for the Bills either.
Makes perfect sense only in Raiderland. Not that its that big of a deal anyways. Just confused. Any clarification on that matter would be welcomed.
October 15th, 2009 at 8:18 am
Uh, talked to my cousins. No deal if Willie Brown is security. He coached them at Jefferson High. They called him a “craz chanate”
October 15th, 2009 at 8:22 am
After the move back to L.A. (City of Industry), here’s a great booster club.
http://www.olarb.com/
When I lived there, I was a member of the ORIGINAL
LOS ANGELES RAIDERS BOOSTER’S.
LMFAO
Just a joke, I don’t care whether they go or stay, I’M A RAIDER FAN!!!!
October 15th, 2009 at 8:23 am
Meanwhile, in the baron strip of desert that stretches across Southern California, Cable and Gannon are starving and dying of thirst, hunting down the Supreme Commander.
October 15th, 2009 at 8:26 am
Thankx 4da link Exla!!!
October 15th, 2009 at 8:58 am
I don’t think CJ has been that bad. He has blown a couple of coverages in recent weeks but he’s getting tested a ton with Nnamdi on the other side. Teams just don’t throw at Nnamdi so CJ is under rapid fire each and every week. He’s broken up a ton of passes by having good coverage and has also made some nice, physical tackles for a CB.
The Raiders haven’t come close to giving up a 100 yard game to a receiver this year despite facing Vincent Jackson, Dwayne Bowe, Brandon Marshall, Andre Johnson and Steve Smith in their 5 games. And Nnamdi doesn’t necessarily line up against the other team’s best WR. CJ has to cover those guys a lot.
Granted, teams have been able to go run-heavy on the Raiders late in games the last three weeks, but it’s not as if they’re abandoning the pass entirely. And with Nnamdi on the other side CJ is probably getting tested as much or more than any other CB in the league. He’s holding his own.
CJ is not at all someone the Raiders should worry about replacing right now.
October 15th, 2009 at 9:06 am
O’Neal will clear waivers and wind up on our IR for the rest of this season and be back in the fold in 2010.
October 15th, 2009 at 9:06 am
dang Jon, quit pulling my comments, their clean. dirty, but clean.
At least post the one about Cable tryin to speak spanish.
October 15th, 2009 at 9:09 am
let’s try this Becker, you villain.
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Gannon: Dammit, Tom, you fat fart, where the Sam Hill are we?
Cable: If I’m still pretty up on my Spanish, that nice young Hispanic boy told us that he saw Al Davis heading South in his rocket chair. This way.
Gannon: What did he say?
Cable: “Orale, puto. Ay, estas un gordo muchacho.” Which means ‘hello, sir. My name is Gordon.’ Then I said can you tell us where the rocket went. He said “Dios mio, que tonto. Gimme 20 bucks, I tell you.”
Gannon: F———————–!!!!
To be continued…….
October 15th, 2009 at 9:19 am
I hope you are right Chris…We really need OO.If the ZBS be finished he’s perfect 4 smash-mouth,imo
October 15th, 2009 at 9:34 am
LUKE LAWTON AT FB. WE’D BE BETTER OFF WITH LUKE WALTON AT FB
October 15th, 2009 at 9:35 am
Lorenzo Neal was cut because he was hurt and way too old for this particular team. OO had nothing to do with the release of Lo Neal. Why people here are so high on OO when his blocking is suspect, his hands are like two stone bricks and he runs with little to no power. Luke Lawton can provide everything that OO provided which wasn’t that much to begin with.
October 15th, 2009 at 9:40 am
Langston Walker, scholar:
“Lake Erie is somewhat like the bay a little bit, when you factor in the fact that there’s water”
October 15th, 2009 at 9:45 am
Ana Julaton is fine
October 15th, 2009 at 9:49 am
OO is a 2nd year player that has been injured both his nfl seasons.I think as with all players the more he played the the better he will be.We never got 2C what OO could do,yet.But as always am hopeful we got another good one.FB has a nice rich tradition in Oakland and OO seems 2me he could add 2 that tradition of FB’s 4da Raiders
October 15th, 2009 at 9:51 am
why is eugene even dressing, much less starting? watkins over walker and jlh. y? mitchell has made quite a few goal line stops and is around the ball most every time he is on the field. am i the only one who thinks al has been watching the movie MAJOR LEAGUE? its like they’re losing on purpose
October 15th, 2009 at 9:56 am
Even tho Lawton may turn out 4us 2.He’s only in his 4th year soo…
October 15th, 2009 at 9:58 am
it seems as tho thats what the plan is. play as poorly as possible and hope to move back to la. i dont know. this team sux. accept 4 lechler janikowski nnamdi and oh yeah , jon condo our long snapper. he is freakin awesome
October 15th, 2009 at 10:00 am
Prediction::
Either the Jaguars or the Raiders will be playing in L.A. next season!!
Right now I dont think anyone will be fighting to keep any of those teams!!
Raiders belong in Oakland, but they may just take a hike outta here!!
October 15th, 2009 at 10:05 am
Before the move to Nashville, the Oilers were in negotiation with Jacksonville to move there. Bet they are happy about their choice.
October 15th, 2009 at 10:07 am
Yeah NewEngland,
Mitchell needs to see some time as our starting FS.
I think the Raiders are hung up on him being at the SS position, which Branch is playing reasonably well at right now. But the SS position in today’s NFL requires a lot of coverage of very athletic tight ends. Mitchell is athletic and possibly capable of that role, but Branch is a better cover guy while Mitchell could be an intimidator.
Ronnie Lott was an intimidator at FS. I think Mitchell should play back there so he can pop receivers and get a running start on backs coming out of the backfield.
1-4. Time to get Mike Mitchell on the field full-time.
Of course, Cable is the same guy who played Kwame Harris over Mario until Week 15 last year and continues to give Fargas significant carries at the expense of Bush and (when healthy) McFadden. Eugene hasn’t played nearly as poorly as Harris though, so I wouldn’t hold my breath on Cable making a switch, barring injury, anytime soon.
October 15th, 2009 at 10:18 am
Nation what is up???????
Because of the divisional alignment it would make most sense if Eithe the chargers or the raiders move to LA. However, due to the product the raiders field would be hard pressed to justify anything new. Chargers have this clause in the contract that would extract millions if they leave. However due to the fact that the developer, and the spanos family are good freinds my money is on the dischargers moving to LA. Would be great to rid this area of them, and the fan base which are all a bunch af bandwagoes anyway….
October 15th, 2009 at 10:20 am
check out thia article
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/10209752/Schein-9:-It’s-ugly-and-crowded-at-bottom-of-NFL?GT1=39002
Click on the vote box on the right and see whos the worst as voted by the fans…..
October 15th, 2009 at 10:21 am
4eva, what up Bruh? How is the fantasy thing going this year?
October 15th, 2009 at 10:25 am
i agree with you chris. on one hand they say they r gonna play dhb jr and murphy so that they get reps. as they are the future of the team. is mitchell not part of our future? eugene must be. there aren’t to many thing he does right. he reminds me of derrick gibson. except that gibson could tackle when he would occasionally take the right route to the ball carrier. eugene is lost in coverage, and my 83 yr old grandmother sure as hell can tackle better.
October 15th, 2009 at 10:32 am
http://www.theonion.com/content/news/raiders_achieve_first_down
October 15th, 2009 at 10:47 am
wow! reading what the ref said makes perfect sense why we always get penalized. its tought to them that we are dirty and if something went right there must have been a penalty that allowed it to happen. Proof right there.
October 15th, 2009 at 11:01 am
# exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
October 15th, 2009 at 8:22 am
After the move back to L.A. (City of Industry), here’s a great booster club.
http://www.olarb.com/
When I lived there, I was a member of the ORIGINAL
LOS ANGELES RAIDERS BOOSTER’S.
LMFAO
Just a joke, I don’t care whether they go or stay, I’M A RAIDER FAN!!!!
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Look queer the Raiders are an Oakland thang. Get your own identity you little copycatting punk
October 15th, 2009 at 11:03 am
Maybe starting 2 look up Thec!!!
October 15th, 2009 at 11:04 am
Did you guys hear Marcellus Wiley say Russell is the main problem with the team? Said players gave up because they know Russell sucks lol. It aint Russell huh?
October 15th, 2009 at 11:04 am
Brien,
How can you say ExLA is a copycat? The team moved to his city and he, like many others, embraced the team.
I understand people from the Town were upset, but don’t blame the fans for being fans. The Raiders are a Cali thang now, like it or not.
October 15th, 2009 at 11:07 am
I’ve been saying the same thing after the SD game but of course I’m the delusional buffoon not priesttj or oakglen.
LMAO!
# Brien the General 510 Says:
October 15th, 2009 at 11:04 am
Did you guys hear Marcellus Wiley say Russell is the main problem with the team? Said players gave up because they know Russell sucks lol. It aint Russell huh?
October 15th, 2009 at 11:07 am
afternoon NATION!!!
How we holdin up??
October 15th, 2009 at 11:08 am
Marcellus Wiley ………who is this guy?
October 15th, 2009 at 11:08 am
# Thec07 Says:
October 15th, 2009 at 10:18 am
Nation what is up???????
Because of the divisional alignment it would make most sense if Eithe the chargers or the raiders move to LA. However, due to the product the raiders field would be hard pressed to justify anything new. Chargers have this clause in the contract that would extract millions if they leave. However due to the fact that the developer, and the spanos family are good freinds my money is on the dischargers moving to LA. Would be great to rid this area of them, and the fan base which are all a bunch af bandwagoes anyway….
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The Chargers are originally from LA so that trash ass place fits them well. Raiders already played their 13 seasons of road games. Chargers can have that hell hole
October 15th, 2009 at 11:11 am
http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders/ci_13563256
Boycott the Raiders, even if you love this team you would be a FOOL to spend your hard earned money in this economy on an inferior product, even if you grew up loving the front of the package it was shipped in.
I would not buy season tickets next year and if I did not already have them, I would not spend one red cent on Al Davis’s retirement fund.
This team no longer cares about winning (if they do they do a terrible job of showing it) and they really don’t care about the fans. Boycott the Raiders for future generations of Raider fans. Let them know these cheap tricks of bringing Ice Cube in to do a documentary of the effect of the Riaders on NWA and Hip-hop is not going to cut it. Presenting the Oakland Raider Legends of the game and throw back jersey because the team of late sucks is not going to cut it anymore. Don’t get me wrong the legends were great but it is a slap in the face to keep your fans believing in the old commitment to excellence that we use to have if all you are committed to as an owner is your ego.
This is terrible football, boycott the team!
I love the shield, I love that sweet silver and black but I hate everything else about the team. Nothing about it right now says a commitment to anything besides ego and paychecks. They are using you!!!!!!
October 15th, 2009 at 11:13 am
Why the heck would the city of LA want a trash grubbing team like the Riaders franchise right now? I would start a new team in the NFL before I brought in the Raiders……d@mn!
October 15th, 2009 at 11:18 am
# LA to TheBay Says:
October 15th, 2009 at 11:04 am
Brien,
How can you say ExLA is a copycat? The team moved to his city and he, like many others, embraced the team.
I understand people from the Town were upset, but don’t blame the fans for being fans. The Raiders are a Cali thang now, like it or not because LA sports bars are full of many other teams and the Raiders arent the main team there are they? Ask Jim Hill its the CHARGERS lol. So much for you guys being such Raiders
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Raiders are an Oakland thing. All that was great originates there. You smogged out dummies copied someone else’ swagger and act like that is your team. Sorry it aint and they never belonged there. You people dont have the love affair with the team. No its not a cali thing at all
October 15th, 2009 at 11:19 am
did you read the Bills fan got a bill board to show how pi$$ed they are. we should do the same.
October 15th, 2009 at 11:19 am
CJ
There won’t be another televised home game this year.
October 15th, 2009 at 11:20 am
Brien The Fool
You weren’t even born when the Raiders or their Fans had a swagger, you little wannabe pootbutt.
October 15th, 2009 at 11:22 am
# CJ Legend 34 Says:
October 15th, 2009 at 11:13 am
Why the heck would the city of LA want a trash grubbing team like the Riaders franchise right now? I would start a new team in the NFL before I brought in the Raiders……d@mn!
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I think LA deserves their own team where they can create their own identity. Los Angeles Metrosexuals sounds fitting
October 15th, 2009 at 11:22 am
Here’s what I have to say:
http://dskirant.blogspot.com/2009/10/raider-nation-is-getting-served-and-not.html
October 15th, 2009 at 11:24 am
# Mistabrown Says:
October 15th, 2009 at 11:07 am
I’ve been saying the same thing after the SD game but of course I’m the delusional buffoon not priesttj or oakglen.
LMAO!
# Brien the General 510 Says:
October 15th, 2009 at 11:04 am
Did you guys hear Marcellus Wiley say Russell is the main problem with the team? Said players gave up because they know Russell sucks lol. It aint Russell huh?
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Mista, people dont want to admit it at all. Why play hard when a fat POS like Russell gets a free pass to do anything
October 15th, 2009 at 11:28 am
I think there is some merit to what M.Wiley said, at least on the defensive side of the ball. The offense is killing the defense by keeping them on the field the entire game. Once the offense improves and who knows when that will be, the defense will play hard again.
Right now it appears that the defense has accepted that the offense is incapable so why go out and play hard? J-Russ looks bad no doubt, but to think that J-Russ is the only one on the offense that is playing bad is garbage.
October 15th, 2009 at 11:30 am
Brien the General 510 Says:
October 15th, 2009 at 11:18 am
# LA to TheBay Says:
October 15th, 2009 at 11:04 am
Raiders are an Oakland thing. All that was great originates there. You smogged out dummies copied someone else’ swagger and act like that is your team. Sorry it aint and they never belonged there. You people dont have the love affair with the team. No its not a cali thing at all
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You idiot. A quarter century ago doesn’t mean squat. Since then the county of Alameda has grown to dispise Al, and the Raiders.
What’s funny is here Oakland, one of the slimeist crime ridden sty’s in the country, is actually embarrassed having the Raiders there.
And “love affair with the team”?? who? the least supportive fans OF ANY TEAM IN THE NFL? How stupid is that?
Oh..that’s right..it’s BreeAnn. The boards resident moron.
October 15th, 2009 at 11:30 am
The really unfourtrnate thing is that sooner or later they will turn this thing around it will happen and Al will be gone in the next 5-10 years so all the Davis haters will be able to yell and scream I told ya so…. This team is currently in shambles I hope its gets better soon it cant get much worse!
October 15th, 2009 at 11:30 am
hey brien. im in mass, but on my next trip to oakland, we’ll meet up bro. i’ll give you my #. you got my word on that. we’ll see wassup. you punk ass
October 15th, 2009 at 11:31 am
Soo they got too let us know
Will they stay
Or
Will they go
October 15th, 2009 at 11:32 am
It looked to me @ week 1 like we were going to have a VERY nice defense after the way we pushed SD around but those players see Russell everyday in practice and knew it was a hopeless cause..
Marshalls defense will never be seen to its full potential in 2009 because Russell sucked the life out of this entire team, what a shame.
October 15th, 2009 at 11:32 am
Richochet Says:
October 15th, 2009 at 11:30 am
Oh..that’s right..it’s BreeAnn. The boards resident moron.
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LMFAO. The little toy soldier BreeAnn.
October 15th, 2009 at 11:32 am
WHAT THE HELL IS THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT THE RAIDERS GOING TO LA??
How old are most of you?
You don’t realize that LA DOESN’T WANT THE RAIDERS? That NO CITY wants the Raiders?
You guys are idiots for even discussing it. Al is a cancer. EVERYONE knows that. EVERYONE knows how he screwed over every place he’s ever been. What? Some of you can’t read? You don’t think every council that votes on this isn’t going to have detailed info on how Al raped Alameda at the last second? Then blamed them because HIS TEAM SUCKS? Then sued in court, costing the county AND THE TAX PAYERS untold millions? Who in the hell would EVER consider dealing with Al Davis?
He’s a snake. A well known slimey snake.
And yeah, Irwindale wanted a sniff. Al acted all interested. He demanded a 10 million non-refundable deposit. Then he took it, said “I’ll get back to you” and LEFT the tiny city strapped. He KNEW he was screwing them over..and didn’t care. He KNEW he was screwing over Alameda cty, and didn’t care. He KNEW he screwed over YOU FANS, and didn’t give a damn.
He’s burned every bridge there is.
He will NEVER move..as long as he’s alive.
The Oak Coliseum will stay as it is..as long as Al is alive. When the contract comes up for renewal? I HOPE THE HELL THEY SCREW OVER AL, KNOWING HE HAS NO WHERE TO GO…BUT they can’t. They need every penny they can get to pay off all of the deficit they’re in BECAUSE OF THE RAIDERS..the worst organization in all of sports, run by the worst owner, maybe EVER, of any sport.
October 15th, 2009 at 11:33 am
Exlachargerseasonticketholder=zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz tell me when you have something interesting to say. If you are in LA county you arent going to deal with those politicians? LOL okay bolts fan.
Worried, no. Upset that you LA idiots have no real respect for the Raiders at all. I care because then the team isnt up home where they belong
October 15th, 2009 at 11:35 am
Doctor: Order an upstairs enema for BreeAnn.
He has an awful case of diarrhea of the mouth.
October 15th, 2009 at 11:36 am
Medford Oregon Raiders!!!!!!
They could play all the instate JV teams!!!
October 15th, 2009 at 11:36 am
“it cant get much worse”……….didnt we say this in 2006?
October 15th, 2009 at 11:37 am
If Al is influenced by money, the move back to LA is a no-brainer. Bigger Market. Bigger Stadium. Bigger revenue-generating opportunities. Bigger media profile. Staying in a crumbling stadium in a economically struggling city in a limited market area makes no financial sense. Cold hard logic says the Raiders should move back to LA at the first realistic opportunity.
Emotionally, I do think the Raiders should stay in their home community. The Raider should remain loyal to their home fans and season ticket holders. The Raiders have responsibilities in the Bay Area. But, when have loyalty and responsibility meant anything to Allen Davis?
October 15th, 2009 at 11:37 am
Resident moron? Then what will you call the other posters on here because I’m way above them.
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Yeah what cha gonna call us ??? lol
October 15th, 2009 at 11:40 am
L.A. wouldn’t touch Allen Davis with a 10ft pole. No municipality will.
October 15th, 2009 at 11:40 am
Hey Bichochet what do you have to say about your fellow 49er sisterhood already calling Singletary a high school coach and Shaun Hill a loser journeymen QB?
October 15th, 2009 at 11:40 am
If Big AL decides to move the team he will. There are several cities that would welcome a pro-football team no matter the teams win/loss record. Did the Cleveland fans complain when the sorry Baltimore Colts snuck into town in the middle of the night. No indeed. The Cleveland Colts/Browns have one of the most loyal fan bases in pro-football and their team has never won a thing. Money talks. Fans whine and complain.
October 15th, 2009 at 11:41 am
KoolKell, Davis is 80 – even if he lives for another twenty years, he is not going to be much of a factor in any long-term business decision to get the Raiders to LA. The LA investors will be looking at a ten year plus return – could they tolerate five more years of Al, yes they could, because Mark Davis is supposed to love money more than football. The LA investors will be gambling that Al will not be a factor in 3 to 5 years.
Again, all logic suggests the Raiders should go back to LA.
October 15th, 2009 at 11:41 am
It would at least be something tolerable if the defense got pissed about being embarrassed and came out and played with a chip on their shoulders and knock the snot out of people whether they were going to win the game or not. If they did that it could change the entire momentum and possibly even the outcome.
October 15th, 2009 at 11:42 am
Yeah Old man Keller you are right about that.Al is the coldest MFker going a lot dont want to deal with him. Newsflash?
October 15th, 2009 at 11:43 am
Brien, I don’t disagree with your reasoning except that the Raiders will be easier and cheaper to relocate than the Vikings, Rams or Jags. And the Raider brand is potentially much more valuable in the LA market than any of the other candidates.
Money will talk. The Raiders are in play.
October 15th, 2009 at 11:45 am
# Scottish Raider Says:
October 15th, 2009 at 11:37 am
If Al is influenced by money, the move back to LA is a no-brainer. Bigger Market. Bigger Stadium. Bigger revenue-generating opportunities. Bigger media profile. Staying in a crumbling stadium in a economically struggling city in a limited market area makes no financial sense. Cold hard logic says the Raiders should move back to LA at the first realistic opportunity.
Emotionally, I do think the Raiders should stay in their home community. The Raider should remain loyal to their home fans and season ticket holders. The Raiders have responsibilities in the Bay Area. But, when have loyalty and responsibility meant anything to Allen Davis?
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No cold hard logic is LA needs its own thing period. You talk about blackouts in Oakland……….LA would be worse. LA is an image and fad. If its the hottest ticket in town LA will come out. Notice what Eric Dickerson said about LA? Doesnt he work in LA with Jim Hill every weekend? LOL a player with both teams that jetted from LA dogs yall. The proof is obvious
October 15th, 2009 at 11:45 am
4evaRaider Says:
October 15th, 2009 at 11:37 am
Resident moron? Then what will you call the other posters on here because I’m way above them.
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Yeah what cha gonna call us ??? lol
October 15th, 2009 at 11:45 am
They say you can never go home again. The Raiders in Oakland the first time around had something special going for it. A blue collar team with an us against the world attitude. It never was the same the second time around.
October 15th, 2009 at 11:46 am
Well why dont whiner fans just leave that much earlier so they can be there in time 4 kick-off.You would think after selling-out 300 games in a row,they would have figured this one out =)
October 15th, 2009 at 11:51 am
Any City interested in acquiring a Professional Football Team certainly wouldn’t be interested in the Raiders, by definition.
October 15th, 2009 at 11:52 am
Brien,
When did you jump on the bandwagon?
The Raiders were in LA when you came of age, I’m sure.
Maybe the Raiders din’t “belong” in LA, but that’s where they ended up and built a fan base. Of course there are a bunch of fans of other teams. Its a much larger city.
LA is many things, but primarily a Laker town. Football just isn’t the top sport.
Oakland has a fraction of the population. Even if you toss in the East Bay and half of San Jose, you’re not even close to the same amount of people, and those people grew up knowing nothing but the Oakland Raiders.
The Raider fans who stayed Raider fans in LA and all over the Southland and Central CA are as loyal as those in Oakland or anywhere else.
Bandwagon is bandwagon. Those who came of age watching the LA Raiders stuck with them. Those who didn’t? Didn’t miss them much when they left.
October 15th, 2009 at 11:54 am
4evaRaider Says:
October 15th, 2009 at 11:46 am
Well why dont whiner fans just leave that much earlier so they can be there in time 4 kick-off.You would think after selling-out 300 games in a row,they would have figured this one out =)
October 15th, 2009 at 11:54 am
You guys watching the 6yr old kid caught in an expermental balloon flying over Colorado?
Unbelievable!!!!
October 15th, 2009 at 11:54 am
Did we cut that clown Routt yet??????Where’s Bowie when you need nim????????
October 15th, 2009 at 11:59 am
Jon Kitna? Rex Grossman? Anyone????????????
October 15th, 2009 at 11:59 am
Scottish Raider Says:
October 15th, 2009 at 11:37 am
If Al is influenced by money, the move back to LA is a no-brainer. Bigger Market. Bigger Stadium. Bigger revenue-generating opportunities. Bigger media profile. Staying in a crumbling stadium in a economically struggling city in a limited market area makes no financial sense. Cold hard logic says the Raiders should move back to LA at the first realistic opportunity.
Emotionally, I do think the Raiders should stay in their home community. The Raider should remain loyal to their home fans and season ticket holders. The Raiders have responsibilities in the Bay Area. But, when have loyalty and responsibility meant anything to Allen Davis?
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Scottish? You dinna kin a bloody word I said, did you?
It has nothing to do with where Al would like to go.
And HELL NO, there are NOT a lot of places that want an Al Davis coming in. An NFL team? Sure..one they KNOW will be “theirs”..where the council knows it’s a good investment..where the fans KNOW the teams is “theirs”.
With Al? he’s ALWAYS threatening to leave. He sabotaged ticket sales year after year after year by announcing to one and all, right around July that ‘I still retain the rights to LA and can go back whenever I want’ until the NFL said ‘wrong, Old Man”
Zero chance of any city taking the Raiders as long as Al Davis is in charge.
After he dies? I’m sure some will..but no one wants to deal with the snake.
October 15th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
ummm… I was being facetious there,Ric
October 15th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
DMAC Says:
October 15th, 2009 at 11:59 am
Jon Kitna? Rex Grossman? Anyone????????????
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michael vick !!!!!!!!! he’ll be in town sunday he should stay send somebody in his chair on the plane back to philly hell anyone who cares.
October 15th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
# LA to TheBay Says:
October 15th, 2009 at 11:52 am
Brien,
When did you jump on the bandwagon?
The Raiders were in LA when you came of age, I’m sure.
Maybe the Raiders din’t “belong” in LA, but that’s where they ended up and built a fan base. Of course there are a bunch of fans of other teams. Its a much larger city.
LA is many things, but primarily a Laker town. Football just isn’t the top sport.
Oakland has a fraction of the population. Even if you toss in the East Bay and half of San Jose, you’re not even close to the same amount of people, and those people grew up knowing nothing but the Oakland Raiders.
The Raider fans who stayed Raider fans in LA and all over the Southland and Central CA are as loyal as those in Oakland or anywhere else.
Bandwagon is bandwagon. Those who came of age watching the LA Raiders stuck with them. Those who didn’t? Didn’t miss them much when they left.
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I never was on the bandwagon lackey. I didnt choose my team just like I didnt choose how I look. Out of the hospital when I was born it was Raiders. Grandfather,grandmother,father and uncles at first game at Kezar and everyone since. LA people just as loyal lolololololololololololololol. Remember that 5,000 people deep save the Raiders rally in 1995? Sure. People in central cali love the Raiders and ask them they will show they are an Oakland thing and they cant compare to the east bay base because its the truest base you can have
October 15th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
MY favorite BEECH!!!!
Whats up man??
October 15th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
Hey Bo!
Gooooo Hawkeyes!
October 15th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
Dakota Says:
October 15th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
Hey Bo!
Gooooo Hawkeyes!
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So now your favorite team is whoever is playing Michigan? Flattery hidden as spite? No prob.
October 15th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 15th, 2009 at 11:54 am
You guys watching the 6yr old kid caught in an expermental balloon flying over Colorado?
Unbelievable!!!!
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Yikes, this won’t end well.
October 15th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
Wow…
That was CLASSIC TIMING Beeecham!!! LMAO
October 15th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
“I never was on the bandwagon lackey. I didnt choose my team just like I didnt choose how I look. Out of the hospital when I was born it was Raiders. Grandfather,grandmother,father and uncles at first game at Kezar and everyone since. LA people just as loyal….”
Ok, enough with the Raider from the womb stuff. That’s ridiculous. If you are under 30, you grew up diggin the LA Raiders. If not, you got into them when they came back to Oakland.
Did you not support them during their stay in LA? Doesn’t sound like there’s Silver & Black in your blood.
My point is that when a lot of us grew up, we grew up watching the Raiders kick a lot of ass in LA. Then tailed off, kicked a bit more, than stunk it up.
Besides, I have met a lot of loyal Raider fans who have never been within 2000 miles of Oakland or LA.
And the Central CA Raider fans will tell you it’s a Cali thing, not neccecarily an Oakland thing. Otherwise they wouldn’t give a sh:t.
October 15th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
Bo,
My Dad is from Iowa…he loves his Hawkeyes. I got to watch them beat Michigan on tv on Saturday while I was stuck in a hotel room in Cheyenne on the way to the Broncos game.
Made my day!
Anytime Michigan, USC or Nebraska loses is a great day!
October 15th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
from jerry’s twitter
Jerrymcd Raiders DE Greg Ellis thinks things can change but concedes, “ Right now, we’re kind of the laughingstock of the NFL.”
October 15th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER Says:
October 15th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
from jerry’s twitter
Jerrymcd Raiders DE Greg Ellis thinks things can change but concedes, “ Right now, we’re kind of the laughingstock of the NFL.”
October 15th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
Gawd I’m still laughing!!!
No offence Brien my Brother but that was funny!!!
Man I wish this damn computer had audio so we ALL could hear evybody
October 15th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
Why isn’t anyone doing anything like this for the Raiders?
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-bills-fanbillboard&prov=ap&type=lgns
Anyone know anything about setting up a website, I’ll donate some cash for this cause!!! Hit me up and let’s get this ball rolling in the right direction.
October 15th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
Wait wait, the 49er fans do? Explain to me why they didnt start coming until after they won a super bowl?
Oh spare me your BS because old white 49er women are the truest 49er fans out there. Most knowledgeable people you will find at the Stick are those old ass ladies. They have been there win or lose for many years.
Yes the 49er fans overall are bandwagon and 49er fans have been on the radio admitting this many times. You are just in denial and will continue to lie about this.
The stands have many empty seats period throughout the game. You are making excuses and are lying about that sorry lifeless crowd.
AS for Joe Thomas you idiot he was suggested by Al Davis and if you want to keep denying this then you are no better than the idiots who say Oswald was the shooter.
October 15th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
The NFL dosent care if you rent all the billboards in the world.Look there are Big Winners in the NFL soooo….that means there are Big Losers ALSO…
The NFL understands this…
The NFL’s answer to this is SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL TEAM
October 15th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
Brien The General 510 Says:
October 15th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
AS for Joe Thomas you idiot he was suggested by Al Davis and if you want to keep denying this then you are no better than the idiots who say Oswald was the shooter.
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Who cares little boy? What does that have to do with Davis destroying the Raiders?
October 15th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
As a matter of fact Brien no…No I have never heard Beeecham talk Raider.Maybe B4 he was Beeecham
October 15th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
4evaRaider Says:
October 15th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
As a matter of fact Brien no…No I have never heard Beeecham talk Raider.Maybe B4 he was Beeecham
October 15th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
One other thing Dakota. When I became a man, I put away childish things LIKE ROOTING FOR MY DAD’S SPORTS TEAMS. Nothing is sweeter than seeing the old man eat his liver when the Celtics or Dodgers get crushed.
I became an Oakland A’s fan when they destroyed the Dodgers in the 1974 world series. It was so thoroughly sastifying I became a fan of every Oakland team. Good thing the Warriors are from “Golden State”.
October 15th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
Down with the Dodgers…I’ll agree to that.
October 15th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
Jeezus Christ, Poor Kid. Anybody watching the news?
October 15th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
Raider Nation, we need to do this and beg Al to step down: http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/10219740/Bills-fans-rent-billboard-to-rip-team
Who’s with me?
October 15th, 2009 at 6:32 pm
Seems like Russell has better success throwing the ball to Zach Miller. Has anyone noticed how well the other tight end Brandon Myers looked during preseason? Since the receivers are not catching the ball or Russell has tremendous trouble seeing them; for the life of me, why doesn’t Cable ever thing about sending out both Zach Miller and Brandon Myers out together to see if that will help to get some offense together, let Russell see two tight ends at once instead of just one and see if this works out. However this idea may be beyond the brain scope of Cable and company.