Tough job for the other Russell
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Friday, October 16th, 2009 at 1:33 pm in Oakland Raiders.
On the Raiders unofficial depth chart in this week’s press release, the starting fullback is Oren O’Neal and the backup is Luke Lawton.
There’s about as much a chance of that being the case as JaMarcus Russell making it through Sunday’s game against the Philadelphia Eagles untouched.
In training camp, the only problem with the fullback position was that it was too crowded, Lorenzo Neal, a veteran lead blocker for 1,000-yard runners for the better part of 15 years, came aboard as a free agent.
Oren O’Neal was making a surprising recovery from reconstructive knee surgery and Luke Lawton had played more at the position the previous year than any other Raiders fullback.
As for Gary Russell, he showed up during minicamp as a short-yardage and goal line runner who was cut not long after he scored the first touchdown in the Super Bowl for the victorious Pittsburgh Steelers. Part of the appeal, coach Tom Cable said at the time, was that Russell could play either running back or fullback.
Except Russell barely played any fullback at all. He was, in fact, the Raiders leading rusher during the preseason with 155 yards on 28 carries and three touchowns, but never had a realisitc chance at breaking in to the top three spots occupied by Darren McFadden, Michael Bush and Justin Fargas.
In the meantime, Neal partially tore a hamstring and now apparently has retired, and O’Neal was waived/injured and will probably wind up in the Raiders injured reserve unless he reaches an injury settlement.
Returning to the Raiders last week, Russell finds himself as a relatively undersized 5-foot-11, 215-pound starting fullback against the most blitz-happy team in the NFL.
The mindset of his role in Pittsburgh and his new job in Oakland doesn’t change much.
`I was a short-yardage and goal line running back. Pretty much the same thing,” Russell said Friday. “ attitude is to come in there and run you over.”
His theory on blocking?
“Get on them before they see you,” Russell said. “Once they see you, they’re coming downhill on you and it makes it more difficult.”
Russell doesn’t seem overly concerned about the Eagles and their blitzing.
“I come from Pittsburgh, and we played against Baltimore, we played against Philly,” Russell said. “I know it’s more about being mentally prepared and doing everything right.”
Cable liked Russell’s work at the position during the week and stressed the blocking will be a collective effort againts Philadelphia.
“Well for not having ever done it (until) last week, he did it very well, looked really good in practice so this will be more just getting him work at the position all week will make it an easy transition for him,” Cable said. “He’s an athlete and he’s a good football player.”
More Friday news and notes:
– Chaz Schilens was officially listed as “questionable” Saturday and looked to be a game time decision. Cable said the determing factor would be “Seeing how he feels on Sunday where we’re at in terms of whether it’s time to pull the trigger and get him out there. Again he still has some soreness after each day so it’s just a matter of how he gets through that.”
– Sounds as if Erik Pears could get a quick hook at right tackle should he falter against the Eagles, with Khalif Barnes being at the ready.
– DE Greg Ellis (knee) and Schilens were listed as questionable. Lawton was doubtful, while RB Darren McFadden (knee), LG Robert Gallery (fibula), tackle Cornell Green (calf), wide receiver/return specialist Nick Miller (shin) and LB Ricky Brown (ankle) are out.
Brown will have his ankle in a cast for three to four weeks, after which time the Raiders will determine whether he will need surgery _at which time he will go on injured reserve _ or rehab to salvage the remainder of the season.
– Cable declined comment on Randy Hanson’s offer through Yahoo! Sports.com to take a lie detector test regarding their alleged altercation on Aug. 5.
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October 16th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
Gary Russell is a lot tougher than # 2 Russell.
Get Gradkowski in the game.
Throw some balls to Javon Walker. He can catch more than 2 in 4 games.
October 16th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
Yep I know what Al said but if Jmac aint ready I’m sure Gradkowski is
October 16th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
lie detectors…One of the,if not THEE BIGGEST SCAM THE POLICE EVER PERPATRATED ON AN UNKNOWING POPULACE.
There’s a reason their NOT admissable in a court of law.
And there is also the discovery that they really cant tell if a certain bullet came out of a certain gun.Oh sure they can tell you if a 38 round came out of a 38 pistol…but if there were 10 diffrent 38 revolvers sitting there,they couldnt tell you 4sure which one it was.
The Police…The Police…To serve and Protect…themselves
October 16th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
Plunketthead Says:
October 16th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
Al is all about next year with a new coach
^^^^^^^Ugh…and a whole new playbook, terminology and system.
Only way I would be excited about a coaching change is if it is significant.
Like hiring Cowher, Gruden, Holmgren and hiring a TRUE GM/Personnel man to work with them.
Al Davis needs to stay the hell out of the football operations side of things……seriously.
October 16th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
Gary Russell “looked good” last week huh? His comically bad miss in pass protection got Russell leveled at least once last week.
Again this year we find ourselves with NO FULLBACK and UNPRODUCTIVE WIDES.
Behind that patch work reject line no wonder we suck.
October 16th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
4eva
Long story made short.
Cops lied like big dogs and a friend flunked a LD test and he was not involved, wasnt there, didnt do anything.
Just dumber then dirt and in the wrong place at the right time.
October 16th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
again
October 16th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
Things could be worse…….never mind.
October 16th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
I remember him begging the judge and pleading his case. Judge said if thats true then take a LD and I will drop the charges and my buddy was so happy untill he found out he flunked.
October 16th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
This is a good read, and i share the same belief.
I will never Boo our own team. I may hate the things they do but the players will have my support.
For one moment, put yourself in JRuss’s shoes.
Imagine yourself, a 24-year-old young man from Alabama all of a sudden in an unfamiliar Bay Area. You have seen three o-coordinators in three years. Last year they put you in limited situations. This year, they say “cut it loose.” The local and national media is critiquing your every move. They assert that this is your make or break year.
You have a bad series, a false start, a few bad play calls and you head off the field. Your Defensive Comrades are busting their tails out there trying to get the ball back in your hands. You know this and don’t want to let them down.
At least you have the fans behind you right?
You step out to the field and this time, your own fans boo you. You don’t understand. You’re out there, under center facing adversity on every play.
You drop back and your first two reads are to two rookies lined up against the best of the best. They’re covered, but the route is a deep route so you have to hang in there for just another second so the long route can develop. Should you run? Step up? Boom! Someone missed an assignment on the o-line, you are hit, you are down. Time to get up, stay poised, and line up again. The boos get louder.
You get a little emotional inside but you cant show it. You start to think about the boo’s and you just want to get off of the field because nothing feels right. But you cant. You have to stay poised.
The national and local media, and NFL have an agenda. Do what you can to belittle anything good Jamarcus does, hope that he fails so as to
prove that they are right and Al Davis is wrong.
This nonsense has to stop. You boo JaMarcus, you shame the organization. This is my opinion.
P.S.
Mark my words, in due time, these players that AL picked will be great NFL players:
JaMarcus, McFadden, Bush, Schillenz, DHB, Murphy, Ty Branch, Huff, Mike Mitchell, Zach Miller, Mario H., and Brendon Myers
October 16th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
See thats another LIE the MAN does.They always state you are innocent untill proven guilty.Clearly you can see the judge follow that policy.In essence…your friend had 2 prove he was innocent.I could go ON-N-ON,site case after case but no matter what guilty or innocent the law will make someone pay,or else they say,we say they aint doing there jobs.I just dont see how they could think they can solve every crime.No entity bats 1000%.But the POLICE…To Serve And Protect Police,well they dont care if you’re innocent or guilty…just as long as someone pays for it.They will lie,cheat,plant evidence,frame and come up with ALL KINDS of things…ie…lie detectors,barrel logistics ANYTHING 2 GET A CONVICTION AND FURTHER THEIR PERSONAL AMBITIONS AT THE EXPENSE OF INNOCENT PEOPLE
October 16th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
Hey that sob story on booing JaMeatloaf forgot a couple of minor details…..Holding out for even more Money and then getting the money and then exhibiting absolutely no work ethic or skills to show he deserved it….the Hell with JaCarcus…..1-2-3 get a Burger
October 16th, 2009 at 2:56 pm
# maddenraiderfan Says:
October 16th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
Holy crap!
USA Today the first ever form of media to not be bias against the raiders!!!!
……………….
How can one be biased against a football team that’s sucked for 7 straight years?
Truthfully, I think the media takes it easy on the Raiders. The media has been taking the side of big business now for a couple of decades, and Al Davis is no exception. ESPN and Sports Illustrated should have each done a giant expose` on Al Davis’s management by now. I’m talking like an hour long special on ESPN, and a special double issue of SI, with the cover having a picture of a broken Raider emblem. “What happened?”. No team has ever lost more than 10 games for 6 straight years.
That’s what’s funny about the media and Al Davis. Al Davis is is running the Raiders in an age where the ownership can do no wrong, far as the press is concerned. They will blame one trouble making player after another, but never the owners who just continue to sign them. The media is trying as hard as they can to make the owners look good, Al included. And Al’s so bad that they still can’t help but to report on it. They’re trying to help him.
October 16th, 2009 at 3:02 pm
At least the early game being shown here should be good. Giants vs. Saints on FOX, Ravens vs. Vikings on CBS.
I can have a couple three bloodymarys flipping back and forth on these games and watch some football, before I venture over to the local dive to endure the futility that will be the Raider game.
Eagles -27 if we’re lucky…
October 16th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
OK Silver and Smac what was Cooper wrong about and how can you prove he’s wrong?…..Change your name to
Silver-E-Schmuck
October 16th, 2009 at 3:07 pm
Crude Earl Says:
October 16th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
Hey that sob story on booing JaMeatloaf forgot a couple of minor details…..Holding out for even more Money and then getting the money and then exhibiting absolutely no work ethic or skills to show he deserved it….the Hell with JaCarcus…..1-2-3 get a Burger
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hey earl how’s it hanging ??
October 16th, 2009 at 3:07 pm
No, he wasn’t thrilled by criticism from a CBS analyst he called by his given name, “Norman” —Boomer Esiason. Yet Davis realizes it comes with the territory.
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NORMAN that’s classic al davis LMFAO.
October 16th, 2009 at 3:08 pm
Aaron Rodgers, Jay Cutler, Justin Tuck, Patrick Willis, Ryan Clady, Joe Flacco, Percy Harvin… Yes, the Raiders had every chance to take any of those players, practically had a chance to take ALL of them, and did not.
October 16th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
JaMarcus, he’s got to do better,” Davis said. “Forget the cast around him. He knows it. But we’ve got to fight through it with him.”
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that would be good if JaPorkChop was fighting !!! the only thing he is fighting is his urge for a second large pizza.
October 16th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
I honestly cant stomach watching the Raiders anymore. I spent last week screaming at my TV for 2.5 hours. I just cant do that to myself and my blood pressure.
Ive checked out. Cant wait for hoop season to start. Even though GSW may also be a big mess.
October 16th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
Wow… “Old” Pedro is dealing on the Dohyers..
Hopefully the Angels can beat those damn Yankees..
October 16th, 2009 at 3:23 pm
There are many, many issues swirling around the Raiders’ total awfulness, and have swirled for years now. Infighting, real fighting, coaching issues, attitude issues, weight issues, owner-meddling issues…
Here’s the biggest issue, I think, and it isn’t always highlighted because of all the other insanity:
* Al Davis and his football people have failed in the draft time and again, despite having premium selections time and again (because they always stink), and when you wonder why the Raiders look so out-classed on the field every week, despite their high salaries, this is the largest reason why.
The NFL hand-delivers bad teams the means to get better: Draft well. And the Raiders can’t do it. Just haven’t done it. May never do it again. That’s why they lose.
http://blogs.mercurynews.com/kawakami/
October 16th, 2009 at 3:23 pm
# r8dr4lfe21 Says:
October 16th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
“Mark my words,”
……………
Mark mine.
The Raiders will not have another winning season with Al Davis involved in football operations.
October 16th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
Gary Russell “looked good” last week huh? His comically bad miss in pass protection got Russell leveled at least once last week.
Joe Theismann broke that down on NFL Playbook segment. He had to start play to the right, then come around to make a block, where he was beat by Justin Tuck.
October 16th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
Silver n Smac,
I’m a Raider fan who wants to see the team win, which is why I want Davis gone.
October 16th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
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October 16th, 2009 at 3:32 pm
Raidertay…
I have stopped yelling at them after their second 3 & out. Then I either laugh or just shake my head in disgust. Much better on the ol BP that way. Oh, and a couple of bloodymarys and a bucket of ice COLD beer helps A LOT…(;
October 16th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
2006/
-Took S Michael Huff No. 7 overall. (Desperately wanted Vince Young, taken 3rd overall by Tennessee.) Bypassed QB Matt Leinart, probably a good thing.
-Passed on:
QB Jay Cutler (11);
DT Haloti Ngata (12);
G Davin Joseph (23), Pro Bowler last year for Tampa Bay.
WR Santonio Holmes (25).
-Took LB Thomas Howard No. 38 overall.
-Passed on:
C Nick Mangold (29);
DE Mathias Kiwanuka (32)… those darn Giants again;
LB DeMeco Ryans (33);
KR-WR Devin Hester (57)… how did Al miss this speed-burner?
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note: I think it was probably Mike’s misfortune to be drafted here.
October 16th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
Desperately wanted Vince Young….LMAO…yeah he’s tearing up the league….You wanted JaMeatloaf too….you’re just as bad a judge of talent as Al Davis…. so get off his back …you’re 2 of a kind.
October 16th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
JaSupersizeit, McFalldown, and Which wey is Hayward bey, would prosper on any other team, but not here. As long as the Island of Doom exists there will be no winning seasons in Oaktown, and now that I know that Kwikway is owned by Koreans, well lets just say that things have changed. If Wayne, Mcgah, and Soda, could see the Raiders now they would be sorry they hired that quick young brockton native with the big teeth, So much for Allen Davis and his team of the decades.
October 16th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
yeah but when he was winning…you were right there with him
October 16th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
drink it
October 16th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
Silver-n-Smac Says:
Obviously, to some of you, the only reason to root for this team is the wins.
Let me tell you something; There is only one reason the Raiders are different, and unique, and cool, and “us-against-the-world” and that reason is Al Davis.
For all his greatness, for all his faults (and he has many), he is the single ingredient that makes our team different. And to me, as a fan, that is cool.
We’ve won with Al and we’ve lost with Davis. But, once he’s gone, all that uniqueness goes away. We become just another NFL franchise, win or lose.
Is that really that interesting to any of you? If it is, then damn. . . .go root for any of the other 31 teams that may be having success right now.
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This is FOOTBALL, fool. Not a handholding tea party where all that matters is everyone feels warm and fuzzy inside. IT’S WHAT HAVE YOU DONE LATELY..not that silly sorry stupid take of yours about “oh goody, we’re different. I feel special. Al is a maverick AND THAT’S WHY I BECAME A RAIDER FAN.
That’s asinine dude, and you know it.
Actually, YOU DON”T.
YOUR WHOLE ARGUMENT IS THAT YOU THINK ALL RAIDER FANS WHO “just want to WIN” shouldn’t SUPPORT THE RAIDERS..that they should just blindly follow along Lord Al, LIKE YOU DO, and blindly genuflect when he passes by, LIKE YOU DO, and just accept being the laughingstock of the NFL because. IT’S AL.
Hell dude, you’re all about ‘IMAGE..not winning. Well..I guarantee you that EVERYONE WHO SHOWS UP FOR THE GAMES COULD GIVE A RATSASS ABOUT CODDLING THE OLD MAN.
Every single fan WANTED TO BEAT THE BRONCO’S ASS.
Yeah..WIN. Not “lose but it’s cool, because we lost AL’S WAY.”
We get it. You bought the shirt because of THE IMAGE.
We get it. Everytime Al sued someone you felt it was Al, AND YOU against the NFL.
The dumbest thing you said was “the ONLY REASON WE’RE COOL IS BECAUSE OF AL”
LMFAO..you’re “cool”?? Uh…WHAT??
Winning is cool. Celebrating is cool. Getting to the playoffs is cool. Looking good on the field is cool. Having players want to play for you is cool. NOT having explayers rip the organization is cool. Making wise choices is cool. NOT BEING LAUGHED AT BY ALL THE OTHER TEAMS IS COOL.
You’re a lemming. You’re a follower. You do as your told. You do as you think others want YOU TO DO.
Yeah..I think I hit it on the head when I stated “little girl”
October 16th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
I live in washington now, Id break someones jaw for a good ole Kwikway triple cheese burger, and an order of prawns and fries greasy ass fries
October 16th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
Crude Earl Says:
October 16th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
Desperately wanted Vince Young….LMAO…yeah he’s tearing up the league….You wanted JaMeatloaf too….you’re just as bad a judge of talent as Al Davis…. so get off his back …you’re 2 of a kind.
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What do you care, Old Man?
You already admitted you’re a bandwagon jumping fool, who puts on the hat for the team you think will win that particular Sunday.
Tell me..how many times have you jumped up in a game and yelled out a different teams name, forgetting which team you would rooting for, for that particular game?
Oh..hang on…about to get your blood boiling…waken your old ass up….ready????
BINGO!!!!
October 16th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
And then burp and go to Flints on San Pablo, I guess they are gone too, but an order of homemade links and a 3way with extra hot bbq sause, the one with the chili seeds in it, and an ice cold mickies wide mouth
October 16th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
Al Davis is right to keep playing JaMarcus. Guys like Gradkowski and other sideways QBs don’t win. No point in going in that direction. Its like playing Josh McCown. Total waste of time.
Truth is in this league…you need QBs that can go down field. Look at the Dolphins. Sideways QB Chad Pennington couldn’t really win…but Chad Henne has changed the offense up because there is an ability to go down field.
That’s why Brady Quinn is on the bench. He’s a career backup…you can be accurate all you want on those short passes….but if you don’t move the ball and score who cares.
Russell may or may not be the guy. Most likely not….but better to lose trying with this guy then to see Josh McCown II
October 16th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
the only team that has anywhere near als philosophy on offense is the colts but the defense is completely different but i would love to have bill polian as a gm not like he would ever leave the colts but with his draft choices he would probably get along with al ok
October 16th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
Too bad about Flints, I loved Oakland i as born and raised there. But now when I go visit I have to wear my bp vest, the one I used during the 80’s drug wars.
October 16th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
Flints is gone too, basically.
October 16th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
16yearsold16yearfan Says:
October 16th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
this is crazy
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Hey, stupid kid? Why bring that ignorant crap to a football board?
I know, “because I’m stupid, that’s why”..but how many times can you use that?
October 16th, 2009 at 4:30 pm
Rachocyt,
WTF are you still doing on here. Still spilling your anger and hate on other Raider fans huh? How’s your life bro? If your track record is any indicator, you dont seem to be a happy guy at all.
Your posts are stupid. For once, stop being an annoyance.
October 16th, 2009 at 4:30 pm
I think the Raiders are going to compete this weekend. They HAVE to be embarrassed about quitting last week and the media/fan reaction.
Come on guys….get it together.
At least no one said “we had a great practice”
October 16th, 2009 at 4:33 pm
Silver N Smac, I don’t see it that way. That the Raiders, Al Davis, are unique, whatever. I see a failing football team and an out of touch owner.
October 16th, 2009 at 4:33 pm
Rachochyt,
Why TF do you care about Al’s legacy? What’s in it for you? I thought you were not his fan.
October 16th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
And then, and then, Kaspers hot dogs, the only one I know about is in Castro VAlley if it is still there……………
October 16th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
I remember when A&w was on 22nd and E14th papa burgers for Jaasupersizeit!!!
October 16th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
Rackolamb
Did you do yuor homework that I assigned to you? http://www.google.com
Were you able to come up with one concrete instance where the owner listened to the fans demand and fired the coach? You said there were many. All I want is one. Just one baby!
October 16th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
SNB,
That’s what I have been saying all week. I have no doubt they will compete. The woke up the dog with the ways they have been insulted (for cause) all week. All men have their limits and I believe last week was rock bottom.
October 16th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
to all u california guys first off i envy u hope the weather is nice i live a two and half hour train ride to the bronx its a lovely 38 degrees right now in ct great weather for a baseball game go yankeees my first love is still the raiders but got nothing good to say bout them was at the raiders game last week the giant fans were laughing thier asses off oh well maybe we will only lose by 3 touchdowns this week
October 16th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
LMFAO..look at both the above.
First slapped on Ally whines “go away..sniff..just go AWAY”..then he immediately posts and say “Hey, yo, Richo”
Which is it?
1. Richochet Says:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:49 am
alisgod Says:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:41 am
Rackochyt,
All you got are hearsay. Name me one actual instance that has been documentated that the fans action resulted in managemnt doing something about it.
You write alot but I dont see any concrete evidence. If filibustering is your defense, then you win.
Tell you what I will make it easy for you. You talk such great schytt. Why dont you start sometjhign like the fan in buffalo did if you want to do something about it? Your talk is so fckign cheap. Whining on this board every fcking day is cheap. You want to start soemtehign. DO IT!!!
until then, shut your pie hole!!!
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ROFLMFAO..awww…what’s the matter, pumpkin? Getting a little flustered? your idiot take got slapped down, and now you’re throwing a hissyfit?
“you want to start soemtehign. DO IT!!! LOL. Man, talk about abuse of the King’s English..but hey..I assume you meant ’something’.
Who ever said I wanted to start something? You mean, like collect money to put up a poster saying Al should stick to bingo, like Earl? That he should worry about changing his depends, which Earl also has issues with?
Why would I do that? I LOVE AL BEING WHERE HE IS, you whining little tool. I want Al to STICK AROUND FOR ANOTHER 20 YEARS. hell, better yet, I want Al to stick around as long as he said he would, for two more SB wins, which means he’ll be around for another 50 years.
Hey, obvously I hit a nerve. You “NEED” your Friday’s to be ’stress free’..where you work up to Sunday, believing “we’re going to kick butt”..blocking out all reality.
Gosh..just frazzles me that I ruined your little circlejerk hand holding love fest.
have some tea..yeah..that should do it.
October 16th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
alisgod Says:
October 16th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
SNB,
That’s what I have been saying all week. I have no doubt they will compete. The woke up the dog with the ways they have been insulted (for cause) all week. All men have their limits and I believe last week was rock bottom.
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Oh right, lol…because they’ve been insulted ‘ALL WEEK” they’re NOW going to step it up and compete?
IF THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE THEN THEY SHOULDN’T BE IN THE NFL..you idiot.
Damn, lol..that was dumb. They’ve been getting INSULTED FOR YEARS, moron. This isn’t new. They got insulted three weeks ago..result? LOOKED LIKE CRAP..got insulted two weeks ago? RESULT? looked LIKE CRAP..and got insulted a WEEK AGO..and yes, STILL looks like crap…
but now? because they got insulted for the umpteenth time in a row? NOW they’re going to play well?? Wrong, moron.
You’ll be here making excuses on Monday..about how NEXT week, after being insulted AGAIN..they’ll kick butt.
October 16th, 2009 at 4:45 pm
# alisgod Says:
October 16th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
Rackolamb
Did you do yuor homework that I assigned to you? http://www.google.com
Were you able to come up with one concrete instance where the owner listened to the fans demand and fired the coach? You said there were many. All I want is one. Just one baby!
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I couldn’t find anything so I’ll just go to a 49er blog and talk about how Crabtree can help us for while until I think you left and bother other people.
October 16th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
and then, and then, there is big daddys on san pablo, aaahhh deep fried red snapper with sause…………..
October 16th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
Until Al gives authority to a coach and allows him to discipline players and install a system and run plays without Al’s interference, the losing will continue.
Fans are fed up with the crap coming from the front office of this organization and the dreadful condition of this team.
October 16th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
Got your back Russell.
October 16th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
Raider 75: Well said.
October 16th, 2009 at 5:11 pm
I’m not sure ANY team would be doing well with our O line and FB’s. Add in inexperienced Russell and rookie wides and what do you expect?
Sad fact is, this offense sucked before Russell. 2006…yikes…
October 16th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
Raider 75,
I read an article in Playboy this month about the old Raiders and it gives you a lot of insight into how the org was very successful back then. They interviewed Flores, Stabler, Madden and a bunch of ex players.
Al’s way can work but only if he has the right players. Those old guys used to enfor each other and they had a very strong tight knit group. When we won during the Gannon years, he was a very strong leader. Gruden leaned on him to control the players. Until we get those types of players, Al’s ways will not work and has not worked in a long time.
October 16th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
Quick question for the draft gurus.
Is Terdell Sands, William Joseph and that Boschetti guy still in the league?
Kelly and Warren playing up to their potential or is it still off and on?
Just a comment
October 16th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
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October 16th, 2009 at 5:33 pm
Alisgod Says:
October 16th, 2009 at 5:25 pm
Raider 75,
I read an article in Playboy this month about the old Raiders and it gives you a lot of insight into how the org was very successful back then. They interviewed Flores, Stabler, Madden and a bunch of ex players.
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Blah, blah, blah that was before Free-Agency. That’s why I preface my attacks on Davis by distinguishing that fact. Pre-Free Agency, there was very little player movement, salaries of 70,000-100,000. Players had real jobs in the off-season etc, lived in the neighborhood, kids went to local schools……….
1989 Changed all that, the whole dynamic to what it is today. Since then the Raiders have 6 winning seasons. 6 Playoff appearances, getting worse by the year, after year.
See what I’m saying?
October 16th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams ….learn how to use Google .com and do your own homework….Lazyass
October 16th, 2009 at 5:38 pm
Steve Corkran is prob the fairest writer on the Raiders. Here is a link to his comments today on knbr. Good insights into the current group.
http://www.knbr.com/common/global_audio/201/13383.mp3
October 16th, 2009 at 5:39 pm
Kook,
Do you even understand my points? I guess not. I clearly stated that to win in Al’s ways you need a certain type of player. Al hasnt won because he doenst get those types of players.
Al lets the players manage themselves. It worked in the old days and it worked with Gannon was around. His old players actually at one time wanted to seek revenge on the HELL’S ANGELS.. John Madden talked them out of that. dude, try to read the whole fcking post before you blabber.
October 16th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
I was there too and Kool Kell is still just a Cut & Paste, Al Davis bashing Moron.
October 16th, 2009 at 5:50 pm
Alisgod
Were you there? I was. So don’t lecture me about something you read.
October 16th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
The fans are rebelling, though there are still some true believers. I got an e-mail from one last week proclaiming that “AL DAVIS IS GOD!!” (oh, we’ve met him, Glenn) after a few expletives deleted, which is the only way these cretins can express themselves.
Glenn Dickey
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Case closed!
October 16th, 2009 at 5:56 pm
Crude Earl
You sound like one of these Al Davis freaks that’s been after me for years. You seem to know me, but I don’t recognize your new moniker. You get slapped out of your old one?
But KoolKell is still here, baby. kickin ass and taking names.
October 16th, 2009 at 5:58 pm
Texans LB Brian Cushing was fined $5,000 for roughing the passer against the Oakland Raiders in Week 4.
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Guess justice does get served…. just a couple weeks removed and out of the spotlight on ANYTHING involving Oakland.
October 16th, 2009 at 5:58 pm
Well if you were there, then wtf would you make such an ignorant comment? It doesnt matter if its free agency. The bottomline is you got to bring in players that fit your philosophy. Al hasnt done a good job of that and it showed… dumba$$
October 16th, 2009 at 6:05 pm
Alisgod
Completely over your head, whoosh. Too funny.
That’s all Al Davis has left, the dumb and incompetent ones.
October 16th, 2009 at 6:23 pm
So the Raiders really disliked JLH. I mean the guy only scored like 7 or 8 TDs.
What the hell is wrong with Tom Cable!
October 16th, 2009 at 6:24 pm
JLH caught 22 balls last year and had a respectable finish and he’s playing behind a 1st round bust and a 4th rounder still learning the game.
Sigh
October 16th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
What ever happened to Just Win Baby well I guess that’s before Marcus Allen and Gruden became the face of the Raiders and ol God himself couldn’t stand it so he rather lose his way then ever bring in a guy who would take his spotlight so just forget Tuna or Dungy,Cowher instead we either get some young nobody or an old OL coach.
October 16th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
Hey Guys die hard Raider’s fan from philly here. I’m flying out tomorrow for the game and I was wondering what i should do around there and where the good tailgate parties are. The only problem is I’m gonna be stuck with my brother who is a die hard Eagles fan. Even though things haven’t looked so good lately I’m still excited cause this is gonna be my first time to the stadium, therefore its the first time I get to watch the team live and cheer and not fear for my life like in Philly. Any advice and any tips would be greatly appreciated.
October 16th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
NoMoreFargas Says:
October 16th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
What ever happened to Just Win Baby well I guess that’s before Marcus Allen and Gruden became the face of the Raiders and ol God himself couldn’t stand it so he rather lose his way then ever bring in a guy who would take his spotlight so just forget Tuna or Dungy,Cowher instead we either get some young nobody or an old OL coach.
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You might want to look at some of the old videos and learn how full of crap your last post was….when “Just Win Baby” was the slogan they were carrying Tom Flores off the field on their sholders not Al Davis.
October 16th, 2009 at 6:28 pm
Philly Raider ….fear not ….you and your brother will be the only ones there at the Coliseum.
Make sure you get some Everett and Jones BBQ so you can tell them in Philly about great BBQ
October 16th, 2009 at 6:38 pm
Thanks where’s that at?
October 16th, 2009 at 6:45 pm
Crude Earl #71,
You get slapped out of your old moniker?
October 16th, 2009 at 6:53 pm
There, Raiders defensive end Greg Ellis said it. If the Raiders want to prove otherwise, it’s on them to do it on the field starting Sunday against the Eagles. Raiders sack leader Greg Ellis said the Raiders should feel like the laughingstock of the NFL. “The mood we’re going to be in or should be in, right now we’re kind of the laughingstock of the NFL,” Ellis said Thursday.
Also someone posted earlier a radio interview where ex raider Jarrod Cooper gives some insight to why the Raiders are such a crummy team. Wow you would thing some of the players would take control of the locker room and refuse to get beat down anymore in the media and on the field and just force each other to be accountable
October 16th, 2009 at 7:10 pm
Wow you would thing some of the players would take control of the locker room and refuse to get beat down anymore in the media and on the field and just force each other to be accountable
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The Coach has no authority, and neither do the players.
October 16th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
The Players are supposed to rah rah and jump up & down in the locker room, then go out and get their heads kicked in with 70’s football, silly play-calling, while the owner decides who plays instead of the coaching staff? C’mon, that’s not human nature.
October 16th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 16th, 2009 at 6:05 pm
Alisgod
Completely over your head, whoosh. Too funny.
That’s all Al Davis has left, the dumb and incompetent ones.
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Really? I mean you bash Al Davis and you can’t wait to post the next negative thing you can find about Al….yet you still follow his product since the 60’s? Why is that? Who’s the real dummy. I mean you were there right? Then it’s sad to see you are still clueless.
October 16th, 2009 at 7:16 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 16th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
The Players are supposed to rah rah and jump up & down in the locker room, then go out and get their heads kicked in with 70’s football, silly play-calling, while the owner decides who plays instead of the coaching staff? C’mon, that’s not human nature.
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What you dont think Al didnt do that during his 3 SB’s? You were there right? Then why are you still clueless?
October 16th, 2009 at 7:32 pm
After talking about all that old oakland fast food from years gone past, i am now headed to Mings for all you can eat chinese. And just like Becker the owner is african american………Good evening Raider Nation
October 16th, 2009 at 7:35 pm
Richochet Says:
October 16th, 2009 at 7:27 pm
Richochet Says:
October 16th, 2009 at 4:45 pm
# alisgod Says:
October 16th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
Rackolamb
Did you do yuor homework that I assigned to you? http://www.google.com
Were you able to come up with one concrete instance where the owner listened to the fans demand and fired the coach? You said there were many. All I want is one. Just one baby!
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I couldn’t find anything so I’ll just go to a 49er blog and talk about how Crabtree can help us for while until I think you left and bother other people.
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LMFAO..how do you know when you own someone’s sorry ass? When you have them jumping through hoops? When you get them so flustered that all they have is crossposting, using your name.
You don’t really think I’m going to lighten up on your sorryass, do you? You can’t possibly.
You still crying?
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Ok, fine, I admit I crossposted as you. So what? I’m tired of you ripping apart my posts. Just go away, and flake off.
Now where’s the proof from google that fans affected the owners.
October 16th, 2009 at 7:36 pm
YOU ADMIT IT? lmao..geez…fool. I mean, yeah, was obvious, but admitting it?
Bow down, beyotch..and get me a beer.
October 16th, 2009 at 7:37 pm
I just admitted it was I, didn’t I? So why act all surprised. And quit with the Al insults. If you weren’t there, you don’t have any idea what really went on.
October 16th, 2009 at 8:09 pm
BAD NEWS RAIDER FANS..or good, depending on how you look at it.
Yahoo sports says Hanson and his lawyer are really PO’ed about comments made, including those in attendence allegedly stating no one saw anything.
Hanson is seeing the NAPA police, again, beginning of next week…
I have a feeling most hope to hell Cable is hauled away, along with his sorry play calling.
October 16th, 2009 at 9:04 pm
KoolKell Says:
October 16th, 2009 at 7:10 pm
Wow you would thing some of the players would take control of the locker room and refuse to get beat down anymore in the media and on the field and just force each other to be accountable
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The Coach has no authority, and neither do the players.
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Neither do you, in your life, that’s why you are always here pissing and moaning. Maybe it’s time for you to move on, you clearly can’t handle the ups and downs of life, let alone the trials and tribulations of a SPORTS ORGANIZATION.
October 16th, 2009 at 9:08 pm
Damn the 9ers suck, worse than the Raiders do. The Raiders problems are completely fixable where as the stupidity of the 9ers head coach cannot be fixed.
The 9ers gave up 45 points last week! That’s more than the lowly Raiders gave up against the NY Giants, clearly a far superior team to the Falcons. LMAO. Like I said, the 9ers suck green donkey dix, and so do all of their butt loving fans.
October 16th, 2009 at 9:09 pm
Good luck with Alex Smith, the epitome of the word “bust”.
October 16th, 2009 at 9:10 pm
The 9ers are weak
October 16th, 2009 at 9:26 pm
45 points hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha weak as hell hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
October 16th, 2009 at 9:38 pm
Al Davis is living proof that Adolf Hitler fucd a Norwegian rat.
October 16th, 2009 at 9:43 pm
KKK, is whinniest crybaby I’ve ever seen. ALL he ever does is make a case for Mr Davis being removed. Never a critigue of the team itself. Just whinning about MR Davis’ record.
Damn man if I knew that I ws as displeased as he is with the owner I would certainly just move on. He can’t eventhough as he says they’ll never win with him. He never leaves he just stays here day after day whinning and crying as if something will change. Talk about the definition of insanity.
October 16th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
And you’re living proof that Stupid is as stupid does. You are a RAT MR ……..a RAT!! so get off the ship I hate RATS!! like you.
October 16th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
Rumors have Dwayne Bowe on the market. With Chaz seeming to have a knack for getting hurt, I think Bowe might be someone to go after.
Bowe
Chaz
Murphy
DHB
Miller
October 16th, 2009 at 10:29 pm
I’m stupid? I predicted before the season that we’d suck and that we wouldn’t run the football.
I also predicted we’d suck before the previous 6 seasons.
You peg us for super bowl contenders every year. You will never again in your life have the high ground to call someone stupid in here.
October 16th, 2009 at 10:32 pm
Hanson looking for lie-detector showdown
David White, Chronicle Staff Writer
Friday, October 16, 2009
“I will take a lie-detector test and a drug test, and I will pay for it – and I’ll pay for Tom Cable to take those tests as well,” Hanson told Yahoo Sports on Thursday.
Cable was asked if he had any response.
“None whatsoever,” Cable said after practice Friday.
Hanson has accused Cable of assaulting him and fracturing his jaw Aug. 5 during training camp. Napa police concluded their investigation last week and handed over their findings to Napa County District Attorney Gary Lieberstein.
Lieberstein’s voice mail advises reporters to check back Monday for any updates. NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell said the league will wait until the Napa district attorney makes a decision before it takes any potential action against Cable.
Raiders cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha said the team is used to dealing with distractions by now.
“It’s not necessarily what’s going on with Tom but it’s the whole collection of things that we have to deal with each and every year,” he said. “There’s always something, or some things we have to deal with that have nothing to do with actually being on the field.
“It can get difficult for guys.”
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/10/16/SP8U1A6U82.DTL#ixzz0UAS006Is
October 16th, 2009 at 10:34 pm
Raiders cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha said the team is used to dealing with distractions by now.
“It’s not necessarily what’s going on with Tom but it’s the whole collection of things that we have to deal with each and every year,” he said. “There’s always something, or some things we have to deal with that have nothing to do with actually being on the field.
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Same thing Gannon said. Exact same thing. Nnamdi going to be banned from the stadium, too, priest of stupidity?
October 16th, 2009 at 10:45 pm
Al Davis runs everything in that Organization, yet he always plays the victim:
“The coaches made me do it”.
“He tricked me”
“The City mislead me”
Never stands up like a man himself. Throws a flunkie under the bus, instead.
October 16th, 2009 at 10:47 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 16th, 2009 at 3:23 pm
# r8dr4lfe21 Says:
October 16th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
Mark mine.
The Raiders will not have another winning season with Al Davis involved in football operations.
^^^^^^^^ Yep….AGREED!
October 16th, 2009 at 10:55 pm
Why are we always talking about the Whinners is this blog? Who care about the whinners?
Really, can someone answer me?
October 16th, 2009 at 11:00 pm
So you hate Al Davis.
You believe the Raiders will never win again with Al Davis.
So, why the hell are you here, whining about it?
Why do you watch this team?
If you KNOW they will never win with AD, what is it you’re doing?
Why are you wasting your time?
You people who whine like spoiled little children in here every day are amazing. If you don’t believe in how the team is being run, then buzz off and leave the rest of us who still ENJOY being Raider fans to talk Raider football, good or bad.
October 16th, 2009 at 11:04 pm
So, you want to talk Raiders!
Do you think we should fire cable, or just take play calling away from him?
October 16th, 2009 at 11:09 pm
We have a young QB, started 2 years at college, 1 season as a pro, he just turned 24, so how do you help him develop?
-Do you start 2 rookie WRs? NO!!
-Do you help him with a bad OLine? NO!!
-Do you help him with bad play calling? NO!!
-Do you help him by running with Fargas? NO!!
-Do you help him by benching his only true vey WR? NO!!
Fat Moron!!!
October 16th, 2009 at 11:12 pm
[...] receiver Chaz Schilens is questionable to play Sunday against Philadelphia after missing eight weeks with a broken foot. He has expressed doubt [...]
October 16th, 2009 at 11:13 pm
Cable is hurting this team as much or more than anyone else. His playcalling and personnel groupings are suspect IMO. The fact that he has had a great young HB like MBush whom it’s been rumored that several teams have shown interest in, well Cable wontt even play the guy.
He has IMO put Russell in some very difficult positions knowing that he has struggled with his confidence he still ask him to carry this team. It’s crazy!! We got idiots like KK thinking Al Davis is calling plays. Which is the single dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.
We have two rookies playing with a struggling young QB and we can’t een run when our HC is aex-Oline coach. Our Oline is a MESS! because Cable insist on having throw away players on the line.
The Oline is of any team and this backbone is spineless. It’s things like this which make this team struggle so badly. How can you expect something other than what’s happening, this will take the rest of the year to have a mediocre offense. Anyone with an objective opinion can see that.
October 16th, 2009 at 11:19 pm
AL DAVIS SUCKS!!
October 16th, 2009 at 11:20 pm
Oh stop, Smac.
YOU ran the “If you don’t like Al, FIND ANOTHER TEAM”.
YOU ran the “If all you care about is wins, go be a SD fan”
WTF is it with you and you mancrush on Al? You lust after the guy, or something? Seriously.
Someone says they hate Al Davis, which MOST RAIDER FANS CURRENTLY DO, and YOU ask “why are you here? Why do you watch this team?”
BECAUSE THEY ARE RAIDER FANS, CRAP FOR BRAINS. Al doesn’t score TD’s, you DUMBASS..Al doesn’t block or tackle, YOU DUMBASS..fans watch to see their TEAM PLAY.
Save the idiot “well Al is the Raiders” bullS**T.
What Al does is prevent the players from playing, the coaches from coaching, and the team from winning.
All everyone here knows is when Al is gone, so are you. You aren’t a Raider fan. You’re a guy in love with another guy..embarrassingly so.
October 16th, 2009 at 11:21 pm
The Oline is the backbone of any team and our backbone is spineless…………period
October 16th, 2009 at 11:26 pm
Al Davis does NOT know how to build a winning team anymore……
End of story!!
October 16th, 2009 at 11:26 pm
#
# Raider O Says:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:09 pm
We have a young QB, started 2 years at college, 1 season as a pro, he just turned 24, so how do you help him develop?
-Do you start 2 rookie WRs? NO!!
-Do you help him with a bad OLine? NO!!
-Do you help him with bad play calling? NO!!
-Do you help him by running with Fargas? NO!!
-Do you help him by benching his only true vey WR? NO!!
Fat Moron!!!
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Seems to me that the answer to most of your questions are yes. I agree on the Fargas question & have absolutely no idea of who you are talking about as the only true receiver. Chaz, probably the best WR on the squad right now wasn’t benched. He’s been injured. If you ate talking about Yvonne walker, you need to reassess what a true receiver really is.
Perhaps rereading the post before submitting might save some confusion. Oh yes, I agree with the Cable assessment.
October 16th, 2009 at 11:27 pm
Guys, did you read the article I posted earlier? Nnamdi Asomugha talks of the chaos in Oakland, how it’s impossible to concentrate because of it. SAME THING GANNON SAID. So, will Nnamdi be banned from the team facilities, too?
October 16th, 2009 at 11:30 pm
# Raider O Says:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:09 pm
We have a young QB, started 2 years at college, 1 season as a pro, he just turned 24, so how do you help him develop?
-Do you start 2 rookie WRs? NO!!
-Do you help him with a bad OLine? NO!!
-Do you help him with bad play calling? NO!!
-Do you help him by running with Fargas? NO!!
-Do you help him by benching his only true vey WR? NO!!
^^^^^^ All valid points!!
October 16th, 2009 at 11:33 pm
What qualifies an Offensive line coach to call plays as an OC? Is this some new revelation that AD has come up with? A big part of our problem is Tom Cable.He’s not an offensive guru. He’s not a play caller of any mote. He has the imagination of gray paint. His decision making on personnel assignments is questionable at best. He’s certainly not a motivator but he is the field leader of this joke franchise. We need a real HC and not some convenient substitute. I see us as 1-7 by the BYE week. AD needs to fire Cable or minimally demote him to where he belongs as O-Line coach. Bring in a real HC and give them the freedom to hire & fire their own staff. Personally, I want Gruden back. If for no other reason than seeing him ream out JaBustus. He did have a way of getting players to play to their best ability. I believe we do have some talent on this squad. We just have absolutely no leaders holding the players accountable. THIS MUST CHANGE.
October 16th, 2009 at 11:33 pm
MR do you ever stop lying? the gulf between what Nnamdi said and what Gannon has said in totality is North America in size.
Gannon raved and ranted even to the point of saying they should bomb the place. This went on for over a year. Now I don’t agree with the ban, but I know Gannon’s comments are vastly more inflamatory than Nnamdi……….period STOP lying RAT
October 16th, 2009 at 11:37 pm
Silver-n-Smac Says:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:00 pm
So you hate Al Davis.
You believe the Raiders will never win again with Al Davis.
So, why the hell are you here, whining about it?
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Whining? I stopped whining about Al 10 years ago.
I think you’re confusing “whining” for ridiculing. I’m making fun of Al Davis. I’m pointing out how ridiculous he is. I’m pointing out that he is living proof that Hitler mated with rats. You want to call it whining, go ahead. But you’re the one who’s really doing the whining. You’re whining about us telling the truth, and, it is getting annoying. So, maybe you should go find another blog. BTW, in case you forgot, Jerry “whines” about Al Davis, too. Get that? This blog is authored by one of the people you accuse of being a whiner. And, you’re here, every day, begging everyone to start supporting Al. How pathetic is that?
October 16th, 2009 at 11:39 pm
priesttj Says:
October 16th, 2009 at 11:13 pm
Cable is hurting this team as much or more than anyone else.
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Who hired Cable?
October 16th, 2009 at 11:47 pm
We need real linemen – both offense & defense. Minimally we need 3 starters on offense and 1-2 on defense. WE NEED A REAL RUN STUFFING MLB.
Our entire 2010 draft must be OT, C, OG, MLB, DT, C, OT, OG. I think we have 8 picks this time around. If not, adjust accordingly.
No more speed burning track stars. We need football players. And, I have this terrible gut feel that Michael Crabtree will turn out to be the real deal. Another top pick that we missed out on for a track star.
October 16th, 2009 at 11:49 pm
Richochet Says:
October 16th, 2009 at 8:09 pm
Yahoo sports says Hanson and his lawyer are really PO’ed about comments made, including those in attendence allegedly stating no one saw anything.
Hanson is seeing the NAPA police, again, beginning of next week…
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oh they’re really PO’d alright! They’re PO’d cause they don’t have a case. You know why they don’t??? Because it’s a case of he said, she said. Or in your case racke-tte, she said, she said.
October 16th, 2009 at 11:49 pm
Cable has a chance of being a decent HC but he has got to see that his approach hasn’t worked. And swallow his pride and change. His hire is starting to look like a HUGE mistake. Only he can change that or the obvious will take place. I’m wishingv we had gone with Gilbride who isn’t motivator at al IMO. But he has extensive experience running an offense. Cable needs to let the offense go to Hackett. NNoooowwwwww!!
October 16th, 2009 at 11:52 pm
priest, the gist of Gannon’s comments were that the environment in Oakland made it impossible to concentrate. Sure, Gannon threw some extra ad hominem in there, but when you consider that Nnamdi is an active player, him concurring with Gannon’s take is quite significant. Their point is the same. Oakland is chaos, and it’s impossible to win here.
Signed:
Rich Gannon
Warren Sapp
And now, Nnamdi Asomugha
October 16th, 2009 at 11:54 pm
MR, not if 15 witnesses that were there at the time say they didn’t see a thing. See Oakglenn post 29 Jul 09.
October 16th, 2009 at 11:56 pm
Fellas, we have talked about this ad nauseum. Until the actual players, the ones on the field, the ones getting paychecks, the ones on national TV, decide they want to play, (See Moss, Randy 2005-6) this is going to continue.
October 16th, 2009 at 11:57 pm
priest, who hired Cable?
We’ve set a record for 6 straight seasons with more than 10 losses. How many of those years was Cable head coach?
October 16th, 2009 at 11:57 pm
You stinkin’ RAT don’t even lump Nnamdi with those two RATS!! Nnamdi’s telling the truth those two are especially Sapp was just pissed because he couldn’t steal more money for lousy play.
Nnamdi’s frustrated with this MESS legitimately. Sapp just wanted to steall more money. Gannon should shut up KC is much worse than the Raiders. And he never says that crap about them.
October 16th, 2009 at 11:58 pm
Oakglenn, some courts admit LD tests. I’m not sure if Napa County does or not. If Hanson takes a legitimate LD and it determines he’s telling the truth, it could have an impact on the DA’s decision.
October 17th, 2009 at 12:01 am
OH, ok, preist, now you’re admitting that Nnamdi is saying the exact same thing Gannon and Sapp have been saying for two years now, but that Nnamdi is saying it “legitimately”. Let me get this straight, Gannon and Sapp have said the exact same thing, but it’s illegitimate, coming from them? They said it, the Raiders denied it, now Nnamdi comes right out and says the same thing. Nnamdi’s legitimacy, as you put it, only goes to VINDICATE Sapp and Gannon. Pull your head out of your box, priest. PBS’s Nova should do an entire episode on your ability to deny the obvious.
October 17th, 2009 at 12:01 am
I aint admitting nothing you’re twisting the freakin story like always to suit your lying ass. Nnamdi agreed with the LB from the Giants which has zero to do with Gannon or Sapp. Nnamdi frusrated that he hasn’t won and so am I.
The Raiders need to fix this crap. But there are distration on EVERY team. Including the cheating Pat’s. It’s life in the NFL……..period you still have to win.
October 17th, 2009 at 12:02 am
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 17th, 2009 at 12:04 am
Oakglenn, 15 witnesses…to what? And, the DA’s thinking the same thing.
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You and the DA are thinking the exact same thing. Don’t know what you’re talking about. Neither do the 15 witnesses. No one has seen anything. I have a case that you maddenraider beat some 90 year old lady senseless and we want $20mm. Now 20 witnesses haven’t seen anything. You think you’re gonna get charged??
October 17th, 2009 at 12:02 am
Richocrap says:
What Al does is prevent the players from playing, the coaches from coaching, and the team from winning.
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You just accentuated my point you moron. If your proclamation above is accurate, then I ask again:
Why do you watch this team? Guess what ass-for-brain, Al’s not going anywhere anytime soon. So you can come in here and cry every day, like the little princess that you are, or you can accept that fact and move on.
The Raiders that you “root” for are run by Al Davis. Don’t like it? Stop watching. Stop blogging.
Nothing makes a person more ignorant than an idiots like you who can’t stand the man so much but keep watching when he ain’t going anywhere. Go root for a new team and spare us all, you crabby grandma.
I’ll remind you again that this AL DAVIS who prevents the Raiders from winning had his team in the Superbowl in this decade. I’ll remind you AGAIN that your little biotch Whiners were last in a Superbowl 14 years ago.
And if you want proof of an organization with absolutely no clue how to draft during the past 15 years, go look at your Whiner draft pics (Rounds 1 & 2) during that time span. The amount of Busts in those 30 or so players is obscene.
I’ll spare you the embarrassment and not list them for all to see at the moment.
But, if I muster up the energy, or care I should say, maybe I will.
I don’t worship Al Davis as you love to say. But, I don’t come in here whining like some old lady, day after day, about things that will not change. Go ahead and boycott.
Al’s here to stay dumb-ass.
October 17th, 2009 at 12:04 am
Oakglenn, 15 witnesses…to what? And, the DA’s thinking the same thing.
October 17th, 2009 at 12:10 am
MR explain to me, what has Nnam said that Gannon and Sapp said??? That Davis is calling down deep go routes from his luxury box???
October 17th, 2009 at 12:11 am
I am an Al Davis fan. It’s not working anymore and it will never work again. Al needs to step back a la George Steinbrener and let someone else have a shot at turning this mess around. Al has fallen and he can’t get up.
October 17th, 2009 at 12:12 am
In other words, Oakglenn, how can you witness….nothing happening? DA’s are not as dumb as the average Raider fan, Oak. And I think the Napa Co. DA is going to take 15 employees stepping up to defend their fellow Raider bro at a little more than face value. They know when people are lying for a co worker. They know Hanson was injured. They know he didn’t do it to himself. They know there’s hostility between Hanson and the Raiders. If this were any other workplace, the charges would have already been filed. But I imagine they are considering the possibility of Davis taking his training camp elsewhere if they follow through with this, and the ensuing monetary loss. It all comes down to how much business the Raiders generate for NApa. That’s all their looking at right now. They already know what happened.
October 17th, 2009 at 12:14 am
MR, ypou obviously don’t know or are lying about what Sapp said. Gannon said things similar to what Nnamdi said just ranted and raved about the Raiders mindlessly because he didn’t get paid. Nnamdi saidthere are distractions, hell there are distractions on EVERY team. You still have to win…………..period All three spoke about separate issues, I have never heard nnamdi say a disparaing remark about MR Davis NEVER!! Gannon and Sapp have. Big difference!!
October 17th, 2009 at 12:14 am
Richocrap says:
What Al does is prevent the players from playing, the coaches from coaching, and the team from winning.
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Yeah, that’s right Richocrap. . . .
Al prevents players from playing. Al comes onto the field and whispers into grown mens’ ears and says:
“Hey Kelly, do me a favor and take a couple of plays off. I know you’re a professional and that I’m paying you a chunk of dough, but, no worries – take off as much time as you need”
Al made Chris Johnson think he had safety help two weeks in a row, and instructed him to blow deep coverage.
And yeah. . .
Al tells his coaches not to coach. He whispers into Paul Hackett’s ears:
“Hey Paul, you leave my baby boy Jamarcus alone. He’s gonna be great. He doesn’t need any coaching. I don’t actually pay you to coach. I only pay you so that it looks like I don’t meddle.”
And Yes, Richocrap:
Al Davis does NOT want to win. Yes, this is the man who probably loves to win more than anything in his world, but, he goes OUT OF HIS WAY, according to you, to prevent his beloved Raiders from winning.
Dude you really are naive.
And so are so many of the rest of you.
The man has made mistakes, but, how naive to say that he doesn’t care and that he “prevents the players from playing, the coaches from coaching, and the team from winning.”
Richo – go buy a brain.
October 17th, 2009 at 12:17 am
MR, either is incapable of understanding different meanings behind someone’s comments or is just a Liar like MistaBrown.
October 17th, 2009 at 12:17 am
Silver-n-Smac Says:
October 17th, 2009 at 12:02 am
Richocrap says:
What Al does is prevent the players from playing, the coaches from coaching, and the team from winning.
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See, once again, the ignorant post from the absolute moron. See this is the crux of the entire situation. With the Raiders and Al Davis, you are EXPECTED to go out and perform. Think of this for a second. The Raider players OBVIOUSLY don’t get it. If they went out and performed on Sunday’s, we wouldn’t be having these idiotic conversations.
October 17th, 2009 at 12:18 am
Oakglenn, you keep bringing up these 15 witnesses. Witnesses to what? I thought nothing happened? The very existence of a “witness” is a clear indication of an incident of some sort. And to think, there was 15 of these witnesses! Oakglenn, Cable will probably get off. In this economy Napa isn’t going to take any chances on losing a major, annual event with an NFL team in their town. But anyone with a brain knows that Cable did this.
October 17th, 2009 at 12:20 am
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 17th, 2009 at 12:12 am
They already know what happened.
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There are thousand of unsolved murder cases in the City of Oakland alone. We all know exactly what happened in those cases. No one can prove anything. Hence, no charges are ever filed. Do I need to go on??
October 17th, 2009 at 12:22 am
preist, Nnamdi didn’t say that there were distractions “on other teams”. If Nnamdi felt that the distractions in Oakland were no different than that of any other team, he never would have brought it up. His whole point is that the distractions in Oakland are detrimental to team progress, and, Sapp and Gannon have said the same thing.
October 17th, 2009 at 12:23 am
# Oakglenn Says:
October 17th, 2009 at 12:17 am
See, once again, the ignorant post from the absolute moron. See this is the crux of the entire situation. With the Raiders and Al Davis, you are EXPECTED to go out and perform. Think of this for a second. The Raider players OBVIOUSLY don’t get it. If they went out and performed on Sunday’s, we wouldn’t be having these idiotic conversations.
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Yeah, Rachocrap is the ultimate moron (unless you were referring to me LOL).
Hey man – This is Al’s team and blame ultimately falls on his shoulders when his team fails.
And those failures are for many reasons. Mainly, he just hasn’t found the right formula to form a cohesive TEAM during the past 6 years. This doesn’t mean he’s lost it. It doesn’t mean he doesn’t care. It doesn’t mean he’s evil. He just hasn’t gotten it done. He’s paid a lot of people good money to perform and they haven’t. Some of the people he paid did NOT deserve it and some did.
But, the point is (as he loves to say himself), the Raiders WILL win again and I can’t wait to hear how all these babies in here will play spin doctor at that time.
You think Celtic fans were real happy with the dreadful period they endured before their recent championship?
October 17th, 2009 at 12:24 am
Oakglenn aka Perry Mason, nobody’s doubting your street smarts. I don’t think Cable will be charged, either, but it sure as heck isn’t because 15 buffoons from the Raiders said that “nothing happened”. You must think Napa’s DA is as dumb as a Raider fan who still has faith in Al Davis. They know Cable did it, and they could surely make a case. They just don’t want to drive the Raiders out of town.
October 17th, 2009 at 12:24 am
Silver-n-Smac Says:
October 17th, 2009 at 12:23 am
Yeah, Rachocrap is the ultimate moron (unless you were referring to me LOL).
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S&S, I certainly was NOT referring to you.
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# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 17th, 2009 at 12:24 am
They know Cable did it, and they could surely make a case. They just don’t want to drive the Raiders out of town.
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No, they can’t make a case. If they could make a case, charges would already be filed. If one guy “ran into a door” while 15 other guys were in the room watching film, that is NOT ENOUGH to make a case. Or in the case of Perry Mason as you say, case closed.
October 17th, 2009 at 12:26 am
LOUSY RAIDERS!
LOL
October 17th, 2009 at 12:27 am
Hell, the Ravens had a tremendous distraction over Ray Lewis murder case and they went on to win the SB.
The Giants were a MESS of distrctions from the coach to the QB to the WR they went on to win the SB.
When Philly went to the SB there were distractions they still WON.
You can’t allow distractions to caueyou to lose or else you’ll ALWAYS be a loser…………period
October 17th, 2009 at 12:27 am
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 17th, 2009 at 12:22 am
preist, Nnamdi didn’t say that there were distractions “on other teams”. If Nnamdi felt that the distractions in Oakland were no different than that of any other team, he never would have brought it up. His whole point is that the distractions in Oakland are detrimental to team progress, and, Sapp and Gannon have said the same thing.
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Come on man – spare me the BS.
You’re a professional athlete. This is what you loved to do throughout your entire childhood.
You’re playing a GAME that you LOVE. And you’re telling me that Al Davis makes you not play well?
You’re telling me Tom Cable breaking or not breaking a dude’s jaw is going to seriously distract YOU as a football player during the heat of battle??????
Are you kidding me?
Man, if a professional athlete is that weak in the mind, then they shouldn’t be playing, and that includes Namdi (who I love as a player).
Give me a break man.
Put on your freakin’ chin straps and play ball.
Distractions?
Please.
October 17th, 2009 at 12:29 am
# priesttj Says:
October 17th, 2009 at 12:27 am
Hell, the Ravens had a tremendous distraction over Ray Lewis murder case and they went on to win the SB.
The Giants were a MESS of distrctions from the coach to the QB to the WR they went on to win the SB.
When Philly went to the SB there were distractions they still WON.
You can’t allow distractions to caueyou to lose or else you’ll ALWAYS be a loser…………period
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THANK YOU. That’s my point exactly.
This Raider team has become so weak-minded.
Come on man – act like men and do your job. You’re being paid a crap-load of money to boot.
If Tom Cable’s situation is causing you stress on the field, then get the hell off the field and get a shrink.
October 17th, 2009 at 12:34 am
The difference is that I respect what Gannon has to say. At least he played liked a Raider. He did SOMETHING as a Raider.
Warren Sapp did NOTHING as a Raider. He loved to say he was always double-teamed. Yeah right. Find me 20 plays in his entire stint with the Raiders in which he was double-teamed.
The worst is Jerrod Cooper. What a worthless little weasel. He’s just a bitter 3rd-string player who was decent as a special teamer. And he’s just bitter that the Raiders didn’t re-sign him when he got his 4 game suspension.
Some of the things that punk said on Barbieri’s show are SO speculative and SO slanderous that legal action could probably be taken against him.
October 17th, 2009 at 12:36 am
Bullcrap!! Sapp’s cmments were waaayyy more inflamatory in naure ad so were Gannon’s. The were talking aout distarctions the were saying the organization in inept. Nnamdi said nothing of the sort.
The things Gannon said about the organization were very agregious and Sapp’s were worse………period
Stop Lying stinkin’ RAT!
October 17th, 2009 at 12:36 am
Silver n Smac. Thank you!! Nnamdi has now excepted that they will lose………he’s being paid 11 million a year HE should be the firs guy t get in someone’s face if they aren’t making plays.
Thy have loser attitudes and when young players come here they see it and think tht’s the way it is and they learn to except it.
Nnamdi and Kirk and these guy’s WHO say they want to win are really the problem. They think like LOSERS!!
October 17th, 2009 at 12:40 am
Just for farts and giggles, here’s who I wanted in the first two rounds of the NFL draft going back to 2004.
2004 Draft – I was ok with Gallery because OL picks that high pan out about 50% of the time, which is considered good. Ben Roethlisberger, Fitzgerald or Tommie Harris was the right pick. I wanted Michael Boulware in the second round which might be a push with Grove (although I hate a weakling center)
2005 – Aaron Rodgers was who I would have liked. I was shocked that we picked a smallish corner but no one else really jumped out at the time. Luis Castillo was one who would have been nice. I wanted Odell Thurman in the 2nd even though he was risky. I haven’t really followed his career since so I’mnot sure how that turned out. I do know that Stanford Routt pretty much sucks.
2006 – Haloti Ngata. I was hopping mad we didn’t pick Ngata and couldn’t believe we pick another safety that high after passing on Ed Reed for Napoleon Harris (which is probably the dumbest of all these missteps)! Huff, of course is a bust. How do you spell Texas inthe NFL? S-O-F-T. I was screaming that we didn’t pick Marcus McNeil in the second. How could Al pass on this massive tackle for a linebacker!? Don’t do break character now ffs!!!
2007 – Calvin Johnson. Kiffin was right, we should have taken Johnson. I wanted Johnson and Edwards, over Jabustus. I really wanted Tony Ugoh in the second round but Zack Miller was the better pick (even though our line still is pathetic).
October 17th, 2009 at 12:43 am
What I don’t understand is why just ONE current Raider player doesn’t have the stones to publicly rip into guys like Sapp.
Sapp even had the nerve to say that during Norv Turner’s tenure, the Raiders NEVER practiced the 2-minute drill.
Are you bleeping kidding me? Where does he pull that crap from? His arse? An offensive “guru” like Norv Turner never practiced the 2-minute drill?
I seriously don’t understand why the current players sit there and take that crap.
Weak man. Weak.
October 17th, 2009 at 12:46 am
You guys, basically the Al Davis philosophy is, I am paying you $9mm a dollars a year to go out there and perform. Go perform! What is Davis supposed to do, hire a $189,000 guy to go supervise a $9mm guy??? How the hell does that work?? Personally, I agree with that idea. The issue isn’t what Davis is thinking, the issue is why won’t the $10mm a year guy go out there and do his job??? And you idiots all blame Davis. Why is the $10mm a year guy (Moss, Seymour, Burgess, Russsell, Dmac) lounging around doing NOTHING???
October 17th, 2009 at 12:46 am
Priest:
I’ll tell you who our favorite Raider is going to become, real quick:
Louis Murphy.
Now there’s one kid who truly seems to have a look of agony after a loss.
That’s what I want to see in a player. I want to see that he cares. I want to see that he’s pissed.
It’s too bad that he’s a rookie and can’t exactly get in anyone’s face.
But I love his fire. And I wish we had more guys like him.
October 17th, 2009 at 12:48 am
Al Davis has created an enviornment where players just quit because they can. In society it used to be if you got a paid a lot – you worked hard. Now it’s about “gettin paid” and NOT working for it. It’s not a players game anymore – it’s a coaches game. The Broncos have barely changed personnel since last year and they are on pace to be one of teh top 5 defenses of ALL TIME. That’s coaching. Those f%&#$ers lucked out and got a great coach and now they’re set for the next decade. It’s sickening but it but it appears to be the case.
October 17th, 2009 at 12:49 am
Sapp is a HUGE Liar, he’s says things that he knows will make news to get face time. No coach in his right mind wouldn’t practice the 2 min. drill.
Sapp has said several things that I know for a fact are flat out LIES!! But it makes news so who cares!! when he said the the Oline coach didn’t even know th protections, THE OLINE coach how stupid is that? But he not getting those huge checks he was making so he’s pissed. Freakin’ LIAR!!
October 17th, 2009 at 12:50 am
George Atkinson sounds like Bill Cosby. I can hear him saying “the Jellooo…”
October 17th, 2009 at 12:51 am
I really believed Oren O’Neil was going to become the best full back in the NFL. I just don’t get what happened for them to cut him. That was shocking to me.
That being said, this offense absolutely needs a leader and I can’t help wonder if Lorenzo Neil couldn’t have been that guy these past few weeks.
I know his game has diminished a lot, but, this offense is so young that then really need a veteran to calm things down.
October 17th, 2009 at 12:52 am
Yeah, I do he slurs every word it almost sounds like Parkinson’s desease. The need to ge someone else they really do.
I know he it overprotective but it’s because the team gets atacked so much they try to have a different approach but you can’t sugar coat this crap we’re seeing. It’s Horrendous!!
October 17th, 2009 at 12:53 am
Priest:
I loved George Atkinson as a player, but man – do you find him to be as painful to listen to as I do on the post-game radio show?
Some of the stuff the guy keeps on saying blows me away. He never seems to want to accept the fact that a lot of the players on this team – while I know they DO care – just aren’t putting out the effort on every play like they should (i.e. Kelly, Warren)
October 17th, 2009 at 12:59 am
Silver-n-Smac Says:
October 17th, 2009 at 12:51 am
I really believed Oren O’Neil was going to become the best full back in the NFL. I just don’t get what happened for them to cut him. That was shocking to me.
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That play in the preseason against Arizona ended O’Neils career. Unfortunate, but true. That was a DEVASTATING injury. That he made it back at all, was remarkable.
Dark Forces, in the 2004 draft I really wanted Rothleisgerger. We needed a Q desperately. He would not have been the player he ended up being if he came here.
Gallery has been a good player for us. Notice how bad we are without him. 2005 was a bad draft. A couple of players of real distinction came out of that draft. EVERY single GOOD team has a marquee safety. Troy in Pitt, Ed Reed in Balti-less, Adrian Wilson in Zona, Harrison in NE, do you think it is a coincidence the Denver D has played well with All Pro Brian Dawkins??? We needed a safety and we got the best one out there, who also, coincidentally, was the Thorpe winner and National Champion! Just now is he playing like we thought he would. 2007 was now the time to grab the Q. Looking back and even watching the last few games, I STILL think he is one of the top players taken in that draft. Still too soon to evaluate the last two years.
October 17th, 2009 at 1:00 am
Thr Broncos will crash and burn trust me.
Adios!!
October 17th, 2009 at 1:14 am
# priesttj Says:
October 17th, 2009 at 1:00 am
Thr Broncos will crash and burn trust me.
Adios!!
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You are probably right but unfortunately, they’ll still be way ahead of us. We’re possibly looking at a 1-15 year. Another top 5 pick almost assured.
October 17th, 2009 at 1:16 am
We’ll end up the only NFL team with all 1st round picks playing and still lose badly.
October 17th, 2009 at 1:19 am
Eagles 52-3
October 17th, 2009 at 2:10 am
Just a rumour I’ve heard from this side of the world.Last week Kate Mara played QB wearing an Eli mask.
October 17th, 2009 at 2:22 am
Been catching up on some of the stories this and loved the 1-2-3 improve story.Had me thinking during the nightshift.
How ’bout:
1-2-3 catch the ball or
1-2-3 tackle the ball carrier or
1-2-3 no more flags
some for Jamarcus:
1-2-3 no more seconds thank you or
1-2-3 I’ll have the salad
or some for Sapp:
1-2-3 I’m a fat pie-eating piece of crap,who talks a lot of crap,whose full of crap and when ever I open my mouth there’s a smell of crap.
Last one’s not very catchy,might need some work on it.
October 17th, 2009 at 2:24 am
I’m becoming cynical.I know it.I’m working on it.
October 17th, 2009 at 4:37 am
Morning NATION!!!
Everybody got their rolled-up newspaper ready 2 spank vick with???
October 17th, 2009 at 5:45 am
Al Davis says we should be patient with Jamarcus Russell?
That is extremely difficult when the man himself doesn’t even work at his chosen profession.
He’s been fined for showing up late or missing meetings and for not being in shape. He’s into his third year and he still hasn’t figured out Cable’s very thin playbook.
In the off season he makes no attempt to stay in shape, to study the playbook, or to work on any of his innumerable deficits.
Russell just doesn’t have the work effort of a guy like Aso and he doesn’t have the desire of a guy like Garcia but he does have a really big appetite for the many things he can spend the thirty million dollars on-thirty million dollars that the Raider nation helps to pay by being fans of the team.
As if all that’s not enough the guy has four feet over which he stumbles on a regular basis, is apparently blind in both eyes, and wouldn’t see a bus about to hit him if it had already hit him once and went back for another shot.
There isn’t another team in the NFL that wouldn’t bench Russell.
Gradowski and Frye wouldn’t be any better?
How could they POSSIBLY be worse?
Draft Sam Bradford and some effin offensive linemen Al!
October 17th, 2009 at 5:45 am
well you get a BEER 4 trying Neilb!!!
October 17th, 2009 at 5:56 am
Good mornign 4EVA:
A rolled up newspaper?
That will only do if there is a tire iron inside the rolled up newspaper.
My Golden Retriever told me to say that even though he’s dead.
October 17th, 2009 at 6:04 am
morning all…
what’s Vick been saying ?
October 17th, 2009 at 6:10 am
I would be more patient with JaMarcus if he had actually showed some sign of continuing the form from the end of last season.
October 17th, 2009 at 6:13 am
I was saying a newspaper b/c if anyone tried to hit my pitbull with a newspaper…she would definitely stop them
October 17th, 2009 at 6:15 am
Morning Neilb, or afternoon in our case.
You watching the game online?
That’s what I’ll be doing even it probably isn’t going to be pretty.
How pathetic is it when the opposing team’s quarterback in a game is going to give some advice to our quarterback just before the game starts?!
October 17th, 2009 at 6:28 am
morning 4eva,afternoon England…
I’m looking forward to the Grand Prix and the Giants/Saints game.Sods law that they over-lap.
I’ll probably watch the game for as long as I can stomach it.
October 17th, 2009 at 6:35 am
lol
October 17th, 2009 at 6:35 am
Well, I’m going our for an $8 Whopper meal at Burger King. What with the $7 gallon of gas it’s going to cost to get me there, that’s one expensive burger.
Maybe if I get down there really fast, Al will give me several million dollars.
October 17th, 2009 at 6:36 am
I have 4 Saints players and the Saints defence on 1 of my FF leagues YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
October 17th, 2009 at 6:49 am
Just a little free time before the premier games start.
October 17th, 2009 at 6:53 am
I’m not a “what if” person but,where would the Raiders be now if Payton had joined us.
October 17th, 2009 at 7:02 am
Nearly 3pm…..gonna try to get a game on the net.Have a great Saturday everyone.
October 17th, 2009 at 7:13 am
U 2 Neilb!!!
October 17th, 2009 at 7:42 am
ENGLANDRAIDER…
Yep there is a lot of pathetic going around our team right now…oh well
wax on
wax off
October 17th, 2009 at 8:35 am
To the die hard Raider fan, from a die hard Raider fan.
Like i said before i wear this team on my forearm every day (tattoo). So everyday i represent my team, win, lose, or tie raider till i die “and proudly”.
Boo My Player, My Team, My Owner, My City?
Let’s get one thing clear up front. I don’t have the right to speak for anyone but myself.
Like all of you, I have a point of view and an opinion. I admittedly will express an extremely biased and slanted opinion. The one thing you can count on from me is that I am all Raider to the core.
You may consider me a kool-aid drinking unwavering believer in the Organization. But that’s ok because its true. I realize I am wired a certain way, but I’m okay with it.
If your Brother or Son, played in the NFL, would you ever Boo him?
What if he was not playing very well and in your mind, he didn’t work very hard?
Would you? Could you do it? Would it even ever cross your mind?
The answer would be no. Some of us consider our team an extension of Family.
My personal history of the Oakland Raiders.
I grew up going to games with my Dad, – another Raider to the core – in the late 70’s.
We could barely afford rent, but he always had his season tix.
We didn’t have a whole lot of connectivity going on between my Dad and I but we did have this one thing. This one cool, “guy” thing, where a Father could connect with his son.
The Blue Collar City of Oakland was always considered second Class to the other city by the Bay, San Francisco. We did always have that one special Jewell to hang our hats on however, “the Raiders”.
As a kid growing up, all I knew was this is my town, my team and I was very proud of both. The Raiders brought pride to Oakland and we were proud of them.
Both I and my Dad were devastated when the Raiders moved to L.A. in 82. I think what really hurt the most was me (a 14 year old kid) watching how quietly devastated he was.
My little old Grandma somehow became one of the biggest Raider Fans I knew. She would get nervous for the Raiders at game-time and preferred to listen to Bill King announce the game on her transistor Radio than to watch on TV. Like me she seemed to live and die with every play.
In my mind, it just couldn’t be true; the one thing that brought true joy to us was gone in a flash.
I immediately, began trying to convince anyone and everyone that they would be back.
I would say, “you watch, Al Davis will see just how loyal we were and they will be back”.
I would even pray at night, pleading for the return.
I rooted for the L.A. Raiders from a far, but it was never the same. I was bitter and although I rooted for them I began my own personal boycott. I refused to buy or endorse anything L.A.Raiders. When I talked about them, the attitude was like a scorned Parent talking about their runaway kid.
As the years past, I never wavered. I kept it to myself now but I always felt there was an everlasting bond between the City, the Fans and the Raiders and AL Davis knew it. Al maintained his home in Piedmont (part of Oakland) even when they were in L.A.
In his heart of hearts, he knew what the Team meant to the City and the Fans. He knew he could always count on us being there when he needed us to be the 12th man.
Along the way, I realized just how much a privilege it was to have an NFL Team in my town that I loved and when they did come back, I would show how this would never be taken for granted.
In my mind, as the years went on, the Team began to change a bit in terms of Defensive toughness. Teams began to no longer fear the Raiders Defense. They were becoming soft. In my mind, Hollywood was just not the place to be if you wanted to maintain toughness and the Hollywood lifestyle was rubbing off on the Team. I believed AL knew this too.
Al took a shot with the Iwindale deal, but I didn’t think his heart was in it really.
As the other Team by the Bay went on their run to five Super Bowls, many so called Raider fans jumped ship. As they set sail over to what I considered public enemy number one, I stood my ground. How can anyone who was ever a “Raider”, jump on that Bandwagon?
The simple answer is “they were never Raiders”. In other words, they were never truly loyal so good riddance to them all!
13 long years later, when it was announced that the Raiders were coming back to Oakland, my heart just about jumped out of my body. I told myself and others, “I knew it!!”, “I knew it!!”. You don’t understand I really knew it!! No one I discussed this with really understood.
My dream became reality. The one person that made this happen was Al Davis.
Al Davis did something that no owner in sport history has ever done. He sensed this undying loyalty and brought the team back to where they belong, their Birthplace.
This one person who places the highest value of all values to this one concept, “Loyalty”.
It’s constantly preached throughout the Organization as a core value. Al Davis is very well known around the league to treat his ex-players very well due to it. Some ask, why keep these old guy coaches like Fred Bilentikoff, Art Shell and Willie Brown around for so long?
Why do ex-Raiders play huge roles within the Organizational Structure? It all comes back to that Core belief “Loyalty will win out in the end”.
I believe in this too. Every now and again you hear people say, “once a Raider always a Raider”.
There is a reason for this; it’s not just something you say.
You think I would ever Boo My Player, My Team, My Owner, My City?
You gotta be out of your mind.
Rest in peace Dad. We will be back!, We will be back!
October 17th, 2009 at 8:51 am
R8der4lif21,
an eloquent dissertation exposing much to the many here who whine about everything as if they were cross-Bay fans. Thank you for the comments this fine Saturday morning. I am certain you dad and your grandmother would be proud.
October 17th, 2009 at 9:06 am
Yo smellas.
Couple of months ago I decided to stop posting on this ridiculous blog(mostly because the damn thing doesn’t work anymore) but I ran into this quote recently and I immediately thought of some of you knuckleheads.
“I’ve said it before but here goes again – Arguing on the internet is like the special olympics. You may win but you’re still retarded…”
So there you go. I’m off, back to the shadows. Please try and have some perspective after our scheduled Sunday bludgeonings. Life really is shorter than we all think, enjoy all of it!!
Go Raiders!
Russell for MVP!
October 17th, 2009 at 9:09 am
Thank you,
That is from a fellow raider fan.
I just share the same feelings.
October 17th, 2009 at 9:14 am
He is trying, as you can see by not firing and hiring another coach. We just need stability and these players deserve the right to have the same playbook to learn from next year. We have more youngsters then we are used to, but they will mature i have seen it with my other 2 favorite teams. It takes time like my love for the Dodgers and now there youngsters are the team, same goes for my Jazz in the NBA now there youngsters are grasping the phylosophy. Give this team time cause truthfully what else do we have. We can get mad thats fine but lets stick by our guys.
October 17th, 2009 at 9:16 am
R8 Thats what it is all about.
I dont have the Bay ties, just west coast.
But I followed the Raiders because Al was a rebel, always giving others the middle finger, always the object of scorn. The underdog.
I identified with all that. I enjoyed the negative attention I got from being a fan of the hated Raiders.
When I think of the Raiders I think of Al.
I sure wish he would get us back on track and give us something good to go out on. It wont be the same without him.
October 17th, 2009 at 9:18 am
WWJMD – What Would John Madden Do?
October 17th, 2009 at 9:23 am
Plunketthead….Amen….but Al’s attitude permeated right down to the team….they were undisciplined except on Sunday… not afraid to bend the rules or take an unsportsman like penalty because the offense would get it back or the defense would force a turnover or 3 and out.They were fearless and the intimidated the teams they played….Al Davis was very much the personality of those old teams before the Salary Cap.
October 17th, 2009 at 9:26 am
Where would we be without saints like kaufman dropping jewels like that on us once a year or so?
October 17th, 2009 at 9:26 am
Raiders left tackle Mario Henderson said Pierce’s accusations are inaccurate.
“He probably did misunderstand our passion and intensity because I know that me and 52 other guys in our locker room, we play hard,” Henderson said. “… I guess that goes along with our record right now. We have everybody talking about us.
“So, we’re going to have to live with guys making fun of us right now.”
October 17th, 2009 at 9:27 am
Raiders wide receiver Javon Walker says he is open to being traded, if that’s what the team feels is in its best interests.
The league trade deadline is Tuesday afternoon. Raiders coach Tom Cable said the team is exploring possibilities but that nothing is imminent.
Walker has been inactive for four of Oakland’s five games this season. He played four snaps against the Kansas City Chiefs on Sept. 20 but did not have any passes thrown his way.
The Raiders signed Walker to a massive free agent contract before last season. He received $12 million in signing bonus and base salary for 2008. His season was cut short by an ankle injury in the ninth game.
Walker agreed to a restructured contract in the offseason so that the Raiders weren’t on the hook for a $5 million roster bonus. In exchange, the Raiders guaranteed Walker $4.6 million through the end of next season.
Walker spent all of the offseason and most of training camp rehabilitating his right ankle and the left knee on which he had surgery in April. He said he is 100 percent healthy.
However, Cable wants to develop rookie receivers Darrius Heyward-Bey and Louis Murphy. Cable has said he doesn’t want to mess with a rotation that has included Todd Watkins and Johnnie Lee Higgins.
The expected return of Chaz Schilens on Sunday against the Philadelphia Eagles makes it even less likely for Walker to receive playing time any time soon.
October 17th, 2009 at 9:32 am
Salary cap and free agency… that it
October 17th, 2009 at 9:32 am
Earl I think a lot of them were jacked up on roids and crosstops. They were scary, real scary.
October 17th, 2009 at 9:32 am
We are 1-4!!!
Weren’t we 1-4 last season? Is this team going to improve?! I mean Damn! Even the lions and Cards showed signs of improving, and the Bengals are 4-1!!! Why can’t we improve?? We have been this bad for 7 years!
Wax that Cable! You fat idiot!
October 17th, 2009 at 9:35 am
To the people that preach patience for Jamarcus: Please wacth a game or two, see him miss badly on screens (5yds away), crossing routes (right in front of him), outs (always too high for any receiver) etc…Preach patience for players with football skills to develop mentaly, don’t preach patience for players with no football skills and no incentive to study the game…
October 17th, 2009 at 9:37 am
Cable is NOT the man … Jamarcus is NOT the quarterback … Al is NOT the owner he once was … our organization is a mere shadow of the once proud tradition we flaunted in the face of others … until we make a major change, the only consolation we have is not having to watch another debacle on TV this week!
Hey Mario, I WAS THERE LAST SUNDAY and I watched you guys. It was truly one of the most pathetic team efforts I have seen in forty+ years of watching football. I think Pierce’s words were KIND!
October 17th, 2009 at 9:37 am
R8,
Cable is no Lewis! He can’t call plays, he can’t put the best players on the field ( Huff, Walker, JLH, Barnes, & Bush), and he is just happy to be a HC!!
October 17th, 2009 at 9:38 am
r8dr4lfe21:
Hey man –
Your post earlier sums up exactly how I feel about this team as well.
And I’m hell-bent on lashing out against any fickle SOB’s who have a problem with that.
As I keep on telling’em – if you don’t like it, and you truly don’t believe the Raiders can win with Al, then get the heck out of town because he isn’t going anywhere anytime soon.
PS – I’ll guarantee you, in advance, that your post will receive some sort of smart-ass response from Richonuts, as he is the leader of the wishy-washy characters who pretend to be Raider fans.
Go Raiders.
October 17th, 2009 at 9:38 am
The bengals have improved cause they have stuck with Marvin lewis even though his record is not great. Continuity is what we need, dont dump cable lets just execute better thats it. I really think it is that simple.
October 17th, 2009 at 9:46 am
Gents,
The Raiders performance of late is unacceptable. Their performances deserves crticism. The way they quit last week scorn. And I was at the game last week, that performance was not one that a professional (read their full-time job @ a higly paid salary) should ever put on the field. I don’t care what is said after the game by the players.
With all that said, the fans deserve effort. The fans don’t deserve to hear about players missing meetings, players coming in out of shape and off field B.S that has nothing to do with winning.
Sure, be a fan. Most here are…otherwise they wouldn’t be….but don’t sit up here and treat Raider football like a 10 and under little league team. Just playing the game doesn’t by itself deserve cheers. Wins matter and improvement matters. Don’t ever forget that. Otherwise 7yrs turns to 10yrs turns to 20 yrs turns to the Cardinals.
This team and the owner needed to hear the fan and media scorn. They need to see a half empty stadium and the boos.
I think that even the RAiders reached the bottom last week and will come out and compete this weekend. Win? Probably not, but I hope so, but they will compete.
THey hit rock bottom last week and let all their fans down…including you guys!
October 17th, 2009 at 9:47 am
Jabustess played great the last 5-6 games of last season. I really think starting the 2 Rookie WRs & the bad Oline has regressed him.
FUC!!!
October 17th, 2009 at 9:47 am
# raidertbone Says:
October 17th, 2009 at 9:37 am
Cable is NOT the man … Jamarcus is NOT the quarterback … Al is NOT the owner he once was … our organization is a mere shadow of the once proud tradition we flaunted in the face of others … until we make a major change, the only consolation we have is not having to watch another debacle on TV this week!
Hey Mario, I WAS THERE LAST SUNDAY and I watched you guys. It was truly one of the most pathetic team efforts I have seen in forty+ years of watching football. I think Pierce’s words were KIND!
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Uh. . .well guess what? Al’s not going anywhere, so you have two choices to choose from:
Either pick a new team and quit biotching about his one, or continue to be a Raider fan and get pumped to tailgate & watch football every Sunday, in good times or in bad.
When the good comes again (it always does), you’ll appreciate having stuck with the team that much more.
If you think I’m senile, I’ll say it again: If you don’t believe there’s any hope with Davis running the show, then why are you still here whining about it?
October 17th, 2009 at 9:47 am
R8dr4lfe21:
Marvin Lewis was a star on the rise and the Bengals were lucky to get him! The only difference is that ownership allowed him to do what he needed to get the house in order. Who is Cable? Some guy from Idaho?
Please — let’s bring in some pedigree, some football philosophy and a winning attitude … bring in a Belichick disciple … bring in a Cowher protege … perhaps someone from the Parcells tree.
P.S. JaMarcus = Ryan Leaf
October 17th, 2009 at 9:49 am
Execution is where the problem is…not the play calling…Surely you all remember Marty Shottenhiemer….the most unimaginative coach ever….when he was with the Chiefs…you and everyone else watching the game absolutely, without a doubt knew what the next play was going to be…yet the Raiders and damn near every other team in the league couldn’t stop them……Execution …Period…Execution of plays was good enough to get the Chiefs to the play offs every year….One and done… but they were in the playoffs.
October 17th, 2009 at 9:52 am
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
October 17th, 2009 at 9:46 am
Gents,
The Raiders performance of late is unacceptable. Their performances deserves crticism. The way they quit last week scorn.
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Come on man – that’s BS.
What we have is an incredibly young team on the offensive side of the ball, at all the play-maker positions. To add insult to injury, we have 1 legit healthy talented O-Linman starting right now.
O.K., now put the above-mentioned reality against the best team in football. What the hell did you expect may happen?
To say they don’t care is a serious accusation to make when you really don’t know what the heck you’re talking about. How the hell do you know they don’t care? Are you inside their skin?
They got their ass handed to them. That doesn’t mean they don’t care. I agree that maybe they should show more outwardly frustration, but, what does that solve exactly? Nothing.
I’ll tell you what does matter and that’s that they just keep playing, keep playing and keep playing. That’s the only way you improve in life.
It would be one thing if this was a veteran team Then there would be no hope. But, this is one of the youngest line-ups in the NFL.
October 17th, 2009 at 9:52 am
Just a quickie…..
LMN……you out there ? You seen this ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5V0...
October 17th, 2009 at 9:53 am
Playoffs!!
Playoffs??
October 17th, 2009 at 9:54 am
Crude Earl,
You talk about respect and I can understand that. Then you proceed to use “crude” nicknames to describe the quarterback.
Its a team right? Team lost last week and the week before.
Execution? True. But the plays have to be called/designed with the understanding of THIS teams weaknesses and strenghts and that of the opponent. Cable has not grasped that yet.
Don’t just put this on a player(s). Its all of them that are responsible for this mess. The Owner, his coach and his players!
October 17th, 2009 at 9:56 am
Sup NATION?
October 17th, 2009 at 9:58 am
# Raider O Says:
October 17th, 2009 at 9:47 am
Jabustess played great the last 5-6 games of last season. I really think starting the 2 Rookie WRs & the bad Oline has regressed him.
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Raider O:
I totally agree with you. I think that fist off, Schilens getting hurt impacted this season a lot more than we ever would imagine it would. JaMarcus had something going with him.
I think that Al, who typically has preferred veterans, has sort of changed his ways. Last year, he was real pissed at Kiffin for not playing the young receivers.
And as you mentioned, they really started clicking when they finally started playing Schilens and Higgins more towards the end of the season.
I think that little burst of success was almost a bad thing. What I mean by that is that when this season started, it’s as though Al is saying I’m gonna sink or swim with my young guys. I know we’re not making the playoffs, so I’m putting all the young guys in and let them have their growing pains this year.
If we had a veteran QB, I would love that plan.
My biggest problem is that we DON’T have a veteran QB. I think they’ve put JaMarcus in the WORST position to succeed. . . . .2 rookie receivers and a busted up O-Line.
Let’s just hope that by year’s end, we really have 4 legitimate young receivers in Schilens, Higgins, DHB ^ Murphy.
If that proves to be the case, I think the Raiders WILL be fine once they address the O-Line this offseason.
October 17th, 2009 at 9:58 am
Raider T- Boner….Idaho???? ….where somebody comes from is irrelevant….being able to work with Al Davis is what matters.
October 17th, 2009 at 9:59 am
SnB:
No, you’re contradicting yourself: There are two things to distinguish:
1. A team quitting.
2. A team not showing their mad about losing.
In regards to #1: You’re dead wrong.
In regards to #2, and that’s where Pierce’s comments come in: Absolutely. Somebody needed to get pissed in that game and they never did.
But you said it yourself, there is NO leader on the offensive side of the ball. But as I mentioned before, that’s a direct result of the youth on offense. And that leadership comes with time, when one of those young kids actually does something relevant on the field. Only then can you become a leader – not by yelling and screaming.
October 17th, 2009 at 10:00 am
Silver-N-Smac,
That team did quit last week. That team WAS NOT prepared to play that game and it showed. Maybe if there was a bonnafide leader out there to keep them sharp and focused…but that wasn’t the case. The Giants took the foot off the pedal mid-way through the 2nd QTR. Otherwise they could have score 70.
Stupid penalties and blown assignments everywhere. THey were not prepared to play that game and the team was OUT OF IT by the end of the 1st quarter.
That was the only time in my entire life of watching Raider football where I felt that way. And I still do.
That’s why the coaches posted Antonio Pierce’s comments. Because they were true.
Now let’s see if this team responds tomorrow.
October 17th, 2009 at 10:03 am
Silver-N-Smac,
Then you get up here and prepare a lecture to us supposedly unwashed…but then have agreement from a poster that refers to our starting QB as “JaBustus”.
Its not just the players here Smac. The ownership and the coaches have equal…if not more…responsibility for this mess.
How about giving the QB steady coaching?
How about giving the QB discipline early in his career?
How about giving the QB an offensive line not made up of castoffs that shouldn’t be in the league?
How about giving the QB a running game?
See, here is YOUR agenda. Deflect the spotlight from Mr. Davis. He is responsible for selecting that head coach and drafting players that didn’t address our biggest weaknesses.
Don’t just blame the players SMAC!
October 17th, 2009 at 10:03 am
I have to agree with you Smac!
Most of the disappointment is based on non realistic expectations. The other teams are just better than us in places that just matter, man. The Oline is a disaster. plain and simple. Why does Cable have to see another performance from Pears before he puts Barnes in there? I mean, cmon!
The way I see it, JRuss, Bush, Chaz, Murphy, and DMac are all going to be just fine. Andrew Walter quit behind his pathetic Oline in 2006 and I can for sure see that our young guys have not done that. They are taking it on the chin and standing tall, IMO, and I think they are going to be better for it. Guys like Ellis and Seymour have been are going to help the big homie get it together after losing his Uncle this summer.
JRuss is going to have some bad throws every game. So what?!?! Are you expecting the guy to complete 100% of his throws? Our rookies will get better, Chaz and Miller will get healthy, and the passing game will get back on track.
Now if we could just get an Oline and some LB, we might have something to talk about.
October 17th, 2009 at 10:04 am
SnB offense defense specialteams ….bite me….Ja Meatloaf will get my “respect” when he earns it….Period. (By the way you’re such a wishy washy moron that I don’t respect you either)… Don’t come out of college early,(immature) and then hold out, and then proceed to show up out of shape, and no work ethic.
October 17th, 2009 at 10:05 am
I’m not saying JR is a great QB, but what are we doing to help him?
Our entire right side including the Center are all Backups at best. How does that help JR & the 2 young RBs. We have invested a ton of money in 3 players: JR, DMC, and DHB, but we haven’t invested much in our Oline. 2 Denver Cast-Offs, and a 6th RDer starting at C!
October 17th, 2009 at 10:06 am
JaMeatloaf was supposedly the #1 overall pick because of his Strong, Accurate Arm, and his ability to make plays on the run when the pocket collapsed…Ive seen none of those abilities… and thats what he held out and got extra money for…..The next Elway is more like the 2nd coming of Ryan Leaf…..so all of you JaCarcus apologists need to wake up and put the blame where it belongs….squarely on JaWalrus’ fat, waddling A$$.
October 17th, 2009 at 10:06 am
Crude Earl Says:
October 17th, 2009 at 10:04 am
SnB offense defense specialteams ….bite me….Ja Meatloaf will get my “respect” when he earns it….Period. (By the way you’re such a wishy washy moron that I don’t respect you either)… Don’t come out of college early,(immature) and then hold out, and then proceed to show up out of shape, and no work ethic.
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Stay classy Earl!
October 17th, 2009 at 10:08 am
SnB,
It ALL went wrong for us the moment we knew Satele wasn’t going to cut it at C. The next head scratcher was bringing old ass Carlisle back instead of drafting a OG. Next was Barnes getting hurt and Green having to go another term at RT. Gallery going down was the final straw.
I mean, what was REALLY going to happen with that Oline? 6 or 7 wins MAYBE like I told you.
Did I mention Chaz going down?
October 17th, 2009 at 10:08 am
Silver-n-Smac Says:
October 17th, 2009 at 9:59 am
SnB:
No, you’re contradicting yourself: There are two things to distinguish:
1. A team quitting.
2. A team not showing their mad about losing.
In regards to #1: You’re dead wrong.
In regards to #2, and that’s where Pierce’s comments come in: Absolutely. Somebody needed to get pissed in that game and they never did
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We will just have to disagree here. I know what I saw.
October 17th, 2009 at 10:10 am
jhill Says:
October 17th, 2009 at 10:08 am
SnB,
It ALL went wrong for us the moment we knew Satele wasn’t going to cut it at C. The next head scratcher was bringing old ass Carlisle back instead of drafting a OG. Next was Barnes getting hurt and Green having to go another term at RT. Gallery going down was the final straw.
I mean, what was REALLY going to happen with that Oline? 6 or 7 wins MAYBE like I told you.
Did I mention Chaz going down?
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The defense got rolled in that Giant game on every SINGLE drive in the 1st half. Stupid Pass Interference and the Corners (Johnson) and Safeties still not communicating.
Another all-star effort for Warren and Kelly and our linebackers.
40 yard screen passes on 3rd and long….
Offensive line not blocking and Cable still call mid to deep passes.
They weren’t prepared to play last week. Hopefully they internalize that and move on.
October 17th, 2009 at 10:11 am
nag nag nag…. ufck dont yall ever get tired of hatin on my beloved RAIDERS?? I am un happy with the state of this franchise but damn same whining every day… Sheeze you cant all be MR…
October 17th, 2009 at 10:13 am
We need a RT, RG, and a C.
Defense:
We need a DT, DE, MLB/ SLB, and a CB!
We have enough picks in the first 5 Rounds, so we should be able to draft Quality players.
BTW, she I say quality I mean Football players & not speed!
October 17th, 2009 at 10:14 am
SnB offense defense specialteams ….do you need another football lesson…..try and keep up….The supposed advantage to the ZBS (zone blocking system) was being able to use smaller. more atletic Offensive linemem that were not favored by the power blocking schemes of most other NFL teams…that allows teams to use lower round (1.2.3.4) draft picks on more skilled players and pick up OL in later rounds and Free Agents and Undrafted players….Denver….and Atlanta have fielded SuperBowl teams with the ZBS…so you’re whining about where the Raiders acquired their O L is Pure BS.
October 17th, 2009 at 10:18 am
Crude Earl Says:
October 17th, 2009 at 10:06 am
JaMeatloaf was supposedly the #1 overall pick because of his Strong, Accurate Arm, and his ability to make plays on the run when the pocket collapsed…Ive seen none of those abilities… and thats what he held out and got extra money for…..The next Elway is more like the 2nd coming of Ryan Leaf…..so all of you JaCarcus apologists need to wake up and put the blame where it belongs….squarely on JaWalrus’ fat, waddling A$$.
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Who drafted the QB?
Who provided the QB with 3 signal callers and 2 H.C’s?
Crude Earl, why wasnt the QB disciplined and/or benched?
What would Mike Singletary or Tomlin or Belicheck do in the face of such immaturity from the QB?
Why didn’t Cable do anything?
You don’t want to believe this…but Al Davis is as much responsible for the state of this team as any player!
October 17th, 2009 at 10:19 am
SnB
I understand the frustration…
October 17th, 2009 at 10:23 am
408RAIDER Says:
October 17th, 2009 at 10:11 am
nag nag nag…. ufck dont yall ever get tired of hatin on my beloved RAIDERS?? I am un happy with the state of this franchise but damn same whining every day… Sheeze you cant all be MR…
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408,
Everyone that is on this blog this morning is “whining”
The only difference is who the whines are directed at.
I think the Raiders will play well tomorrow and compete. Last couple of weeks have been an unmitigated disaster on all football fronts.
I think these guys realize that and the criticism has pierced the bubble that shields the players from the media and fans.
Let’s see them respond against another great football team.
October 17th, 2009 at 10:26 am
Fire Cable!! Fire the entire coaching staff, release most of the players, trade a few, and start from scratch! IMO
I would keep:
Offense:
JR, DMC, Bush, Miller, Mario, Gallery, Chaz, DHB, Murphy, and JLH!
Defense:
Nnamdi, Huff, Branch, Mitchell, Sey, Scott, Matt S, TH, and maybe Kirk.
October 17th, 2009 at 10:27 am
LONG LIVE BIG AL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 17th, 2009 at 10:28 am
Crude Earl,
The failure to upgrade the O-Line in the offseason was a strategic error.
Even when “healthy” Cornell Green and Chris Morris were hardly serviceable starters.
They gambled and lost….
October 17th, 2009 at 10:29 am
4evaRaider Says:
October 17th, 2009 at 10:27 am
LONG LIVE BIG AL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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THat’s fine. I just want to see the team win and see “Big Al” make better decisions!
October 17th, 2009 at 10:29 am
A player whose specialty is improvisation when the play breaks down shouldn’t have to worry about play callers and coaches….thats what he held out for the big money for….so shut your pie hole!
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I’ve never given Al Davis a pass on the status of the Raiders the last 6 years….I forgive him because its His team and he’s earned the right to run it as he sees fit….I am willing to take the bad with the good and also willing to let an elder statesman have the dignity to succeed or fail on his own….It’s Al Davis…Losing is Killing him….but it’s his team and he’ll figure out how to win again or die trying….I’m willing to give him the time he needs figure it out…unlike you I respect Al Davis….He’s given me alot to cheer about .
October 17th, 2009 at 10:36 am
SnB offense defense specialteams …..riddle me this moron….why would the Raiders… 6th in total rushing in 2007 and 10th in total rushing in 2008 think there is something wrong with the ZBS??? Maybe thats why they didn’t feel the need to waste good draft picks on OL….but rather try to give JaMeatloaf some speedy targets and also get the opposing teams to stop putting 8 or 9 in the box to open up the running game….if you need me to explain that to you in simpler details, let me know.
October 17th, 2009 at 10:40 am
Crude Earl,
Here’s what I like about Al Davis:
1. I like the idea of sticking with an identity – “Man 2 Man” “vertical passing game”
2. I actually like some of his later round selections (4th round or later)
3. I like the image that he crafted for this team up till recently
Here’s what I don’t like about Al Davis:
1. Coaching turnover and the inability to hire a top flight coach (not necessarily big name) but top flight
2. Refusal to cede game planning and player management. Davis can be the GM. THat’s fine. But he interferes with who starts, who gets disciplined, and game planning. Hire the doggone coach that fits your philosophy and let him do his thing
3. His high 1st and 2nd round draft picks of late
4. His general (not complete) neglect of the lines
October 17th, 2009 at 10:43 am
why would the Raiders… 6th in total rushing in 2007 and 10th in total rushing in 2008 think there is something wrong with the ZBS??? Maybe thats why they didn’t feel the need to waste good draft picks on OL….but rather try to give JaMeatloaf some speedy targets and also get the opposing teams to stop putting 8 or 9 in the box to open up the running game
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That’s just a bad take, man!
Did you see the way this team ended last year? THAT us what we should have been building on. Chaz and JLH were doing just fine at WR, and the QB finished the season up with back to back fantastic games.
You would think that going into the draft the focus would have been on replacingthe 2nd half of what was labeled the worst OT combo in the league. Cornell Green was brought in to be backup 2 years ago. Why count on him starting for a 3rd year? The minute Grove left, how was that not a priority for the draft? Carlisle ????? Another aging vet.
The Oline should have been addressed in the draft to protect the young up and coming QB and RBs. It’s a NO BRAINER!
October 17th, 2009 at 10:45 am
the Raiders have been these recent half dozen years not unlike a soul wandering the Bardo. First the cessation of what was, then the dismay followed by confusion as to how to manage one’s way through all of the uncertainty. The “between” is a hard place to rally from, but it always done nonetheless by one manner or another.
Here’s hoping that DMcNabb’s sounding out with JRuss will make a positive difference in the young man’s presentation on the field.
October 17th, 2009 at 10:45 am
You guys are really trying to dig too deep for the answer.
Our defense is bad because CJ is not the player he was last year, and our LBs are soft as cotton.
Our offense is bad becasue we have NO oline, and NO experience at WR.
It’s THAT simple.
October 17th, 2009 at 10:50 am
JHill,
you left out ATTITUDE. with the right vision and/or attitude things become much less insurmountable regardless of superior talent.
October 17th, 2009 at 10:59 am
Once again for you “Slow Learners” the ZBS doesn’t require low round draft picks to be successful…My take is Cables replacement at O L coach isn’t up to the task.
October 17th, 2009 at 11:00 am
I think the team just gave up after the opener… just like last year
October 17th, 2009 at 11:09 am
This is a good article…
http://www.insidebayarea.com/raiders/ci_13563256
Hope someone read this to Al Davis
October 17th, 2009 at 11:10 am
I see the blog is messed up again. Posting entries out of order
October 17th, 2009 at 11:12 am
JHill,
The devloution from last year is infuriating. Because now the team is blasted back to 2006.
You are exactly right. The big need WAS NOT wide receiver! JLH, Schilens, Miller and Russell were developing the kind of chemistry we can only dream about today. It was the O-Line that was in desperate need of talent. They needed to add a talent on the Center to Right side of the line…not two more wide receivers.
Russell and this offense can play. But it appears that Davis and Cable scrapped the playbooka and approach from last year and opted to start from scratch. The neglect of the O-Line should cost Cable his job.
BTW, the ZBS does not mean you don’t need talent. The Broncos expended a #1 pick on Ryan Claddy when they ran the ZBS. Of course they are now a power o-line. In fact, that’s what the Raiders need to do. Davis is in agreement. You know Davis brought in Langston Walker…a 368lb RT. Cable’s ZBS experiment is rightfully coming to an end. This offseason should be about getting the nastiest RT, RG, C they can find.
I would also suggest giving the Giants a call about Kevin Boothe. Remember him.
We are now stuck with DHB and Murphy. I think JLH is better than both of those guys and was developing the chemistry and confidence until Tom Cable worked his magic.
Davis did make a mistake with Cable. Tom Cable is unqualified to be a head coach. it shows everyday in his personnel lineups and playcalling. I wish Davis would reign in this guy!
October 17th, 2009 at 11:15 am
408RAIDER Says:
October 17th, 2009 at 11:00 am
I think the team just gave up after the opener… just like last year
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No, this team was fighting in every game except last week. I actually admired the way they played against K.C. Gutted it out and didn’t quit. Denver was disappointing, but the team fought for the most part. The game plan didn’t leave them a chance and the lack of adjustments were stunning.
Houston they were victimised by mistakes and poor play.
Against the Giants…the team quit.
This week is a new week. Like this Cable guy says…your trying to go 1-0.
We have to plow through this year and replace Tom Cable with a competent coach and allow this new coach to design the game plan and manage the roster.
October 17th, 2009 at 11:18 am
Crude Earl Says:
October 17th, 2009 at 10:59 am
Once again for you “Slow Learners” the ZBS doesn’t require low round draft picks to be successful…My take is Cables replacement at O L coach isn’t up to the task.
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That’s not true Earl. you still need good players. Maybe not the 350 roadgrader, but you still need guys that can block, are quick and smart.
Not a bunch of scrubs from the Denver Broncos!
And Jake Grove is doing just fine out in Miami. Although the Raiders were right not to pay him what he was looking for.
October 17th, 2009 at 11:23 am
I also agree with Davis sticking with JaMarcus Russell. QBs that can go down the field are the way of the league.
Mistakes aside, the Raiders are much better off fighting through this with Russell than wasting time with Josh McCown II aka Bruce Gradkowski.
Tell Cable to get JLH and Schilens back on the field. Tell him to run more 22 sets with 2 TEs and 2 RBs
Tell him to include the checkdowns and not make everything deep 9-routes.
More importantly…tell Cable to focus on being the head coach and give the playcalling to a professional.,
In fact, Cable would do right to drive over to San Fran and ask for a 30 minute chat with Singletary on how to RUN the team and let your subordinates do their damn job.
October 17th, 2009 at 11:31 am
So what excuses will you guys come up with when Philly hangs 40 on the Raiders tomorrow?
This team is a mess.
Hanging articles in the lockers to get guys motivated? How about being professionals and having pride?
Tom Cable has reached his peak as a coach. The ra-ra stuff is only effective for so long. Sooner or later, you have to have Xs and Os that put your players in a position to be successful. Cable is not capable of doing that.
The Raiders will come out all fired up because of the ra-ra coach, but after a few 3 and outs followed by TDs from Philly, the team will lay down again just like last week.
I predict that this will be Cable’s last week as Head Coach.
October 17th, 2009 at 11:33 am
It doesn’t matter what play you call if it isn’t properly executed….you cant put the wagon in front of the horse….period….but idiots who don’t understand the game will never comprehend that simple fact…..on the other hand a properly executed play is damn near impossible to stop….thats why the Chiefs under Shottenhiemer always made it to the playoffs…..evevy one watching knew they were going to run but you couldn’t stop it.
October 17th, 2009 at 11:38 am
The 9ers will hit there wall soon enough, they have benefited from a week division not to mention schedule.
When they play the good teams they get a dose of reality. What is the goal for the 32 teams in the league, to win a super bowl right. So that means that 31 teams failed cause i dont anyone that is satisfied with just getting there, that in my mind is a loser mentality. As fans lets grow up and support this team, show them that homefield is exactly that.
October 17th, 2009 at 11:40 am
Not caring if “we” win or lose means your not a fan. Simple as that.
October 17th, 2009 at 11:43 am
Paul Hackett is the logical choice to finish out the year as Head Coach….He’s had HC experience….he won’t change the Offense, and he of all people knows the shortcomings of JaMeatloaf and should be able to put together a gameplan to exploit the few positives JaCarcus does possess.
October 17th, 2009 at 11:44 am
Crude earl great point,
How can we judge Cables play calling if we dont execute the right way. I think with the make shift line and young WR we have to keep it simple but execute.
I never understood why in the world people get so mad, and hold in there anger. I love our Raiders everything in my life, kids, wife, even my black Great Dane is all raiders. Guess what when they lose i say ok and live my life the same, cause win, lose, or tie Raider till i die. I will not allow another man or group of men to alter my life cause they didnt play a game to my liking.
October 17th, 2009 at 11:45 am
Crude Earl Says:
October 17th, 2009 at 11:33 am
It doesn’t matter what play you call if it isn’t properly executed….you cant put the wagon in front of the horse….period….but idiots who don’t understand the game will never comprehend that simple fact
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The game is about mach-ups. It is about using formations and plays that create match-up problems. No team in today’s NFL has the talent to win player on player schemes.
The NFL is a copycat league. If this style of play was really effective, you would see more teams trying it.
Yet good coaches can win with less talent by putting their players in the right places to make plays.
Yes, the players still have to execute. However, asking them to line up and simply beat the man in front of them doesn’t work anymore. The players in the NFL say it, the coaches say it, and those who study the league say it.
Only person not saying it is Al Davis, and his record speaks for itself.
October 17th, 2009 at 11:47 am
SnB,
They had a shot of Boothe on the sidelines, and I can’t believe that guy is still in the league. He looked like one of those big girls who were spandex. Dude HAD to be 400!
October 17th, 2009 at 11:47 am
Just spotted JaSupersizeit in Hayward Plunge parking lot eating wendys burgers and throwing fries at the seagulls
October 17th, 2009 at 11:48 am
Would be nice if there was an actual TEAM to support. This Raider bunch is anything but a TEAM.
October 17th, 2009 at 11:49 am
LOL at the not being able to execute line of thinking.
The Raiders were executing the hell out of something last year, which is why Cable got to keep his job.
WTF happened????
Why did Cable hire a WCO guy in Hackett to go along side a Vertical passing game coordinator. That is they type of confused shyt Cable has done since he got the reigns.
Last week, first play from scrimmage, Bush for big yards. Why not run him again, and again, and again instead of calling a play for Watkins that is 20 yds downfield?
Not executing? Cable really expected Pears, Satele, Morris, and Carlisle to execute well enough against the NYG defensive line that Jamarcus would have time to go deep?
LMFAO!
Cable looks like a guy who has never had an play calling duties in the NFL before.
Wait ….
October 17th, 2009 at 11:49 am
jhill Says:
October 17th, 2009 at 11:47 am
SnB,
They had a shot of Boothe on the sidelines, and I can’t believe that guy is still in the league. He looked like one of those big girls who were spandex. Dude HAD to be 400!
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That’s fine. Let’s just get some big dogs on that O-Line is all I am saying.
Al Davis is in agreement. Langston Walker at 368lbs is a signal that this experiment with underpowered o-lineman is coming to an end.
October 17th, 2009 at 11:54 am
So in you’re mindset you only want to support when all is going great. Thats a shame cause i will always support this team no matter how long Al davis owns it and there after. He is the creator of this team that we all grew up loving and others grew up hating, the us against the world mentality. I will not throw that away cause we have a group of youngsters i feel just need some experience and some cohesivness.
The prior years we had veteran players, to many leaders not enough workers. There young Jmac is still the 3rd youngest QB in the league, in all fairness this is only his 2nd year full year anyways. He didnt hold out he did like all NFL players do, yake the word of his agent that says he can get him more money.
October 17th, 2009 at 11:54 am
No… Langston Walker is proof that there’s no good linemen to be had right now and he’s cheap.
October 17th, 2009 at 11:56 am
we are devo…D~~E~~v~~o
October 17th, 2009 at 11:58 am
The game is about mach-ups. It is about using formations and plays that create match-up problems. No team in today’s NFL has the talent to win player on player schemes.
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Exactly!
Other than the first play of the SD game, I have yet to see one creative thing from Cable. I just don’t understand why he isn’t calling the same plays that won him the Houston and Tampa games to keep his job.
October 17th, 2009 at 11:58 am
r8dr4lfe21 Says:
October 17th, 2009 at 11:54 am
So in you’re mindset you only want to support when all is going great. Thats a shame cause i will always support this team no matter how long Al davis owns it and there after. He is the creator of this team that we all grew up loving and others grew up hating, the us against the world mentality. I will not throw that away cause we have a group of youngsters i feel just need some experience and some cohesivness.
The prior years we had veteran players, to many leaders not enough workers. There young Jmac is still the 3rd youngest QB in the league, in all fairness this is only his 2nd year full year anyways. He didnt hold out he did like all NFL players do, yake the word of his agent that says he can get him more money.
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History lesson for the so called dedicated
fan….Al Davis did not create the Raiders…in fact he was just the head coach, and then not until the team was 3 years old…. JaMeatloaf Hired that agent ….not the other way around….and could have ended his hold out at any time…..and besides that …how in good conscience does a man hold out for millions and then show up out of shape and unprepared??…Kiffin went on the record saying that he and his coaches were in communications with JaCarcus during that hold out…..Fatass Russell had thetime to find and buy a big home in Oakland but not study the Playbook….UNFORGIVABLE….Period….defend that lazyass loser all you want but the facts speak for themselves as do his failures as an NFL QB.
October 17th, 2009 at 11:59 am
I think it is more of a signal that Walker is another fat buffalo arse
October 17th, 2009 at 11:59 am
1) The Raiders were around before Al Davis and will be around long after hes gone.
2) Al Davis cares more about pacifying his massive ego than he does winning,
3) Jamarcus Russell flat out dznt have it and never will. Any moron can see that.
4) The Raiders are not a team. They are a collection of athletes that can run fast and jump high but for the most part cant play football. Period.
October 17th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
You will start to see this offense look better once Gallery and Barnes take their rightfull places on the line. We still have a HUGE hole at C though b/c Morris and Satele are just NOT getting it done. No way we can do ANYTHING with our C constantly getting knocked to the ground or in our backfield.
Also can’t wait to see Chaz and Miller back at WR.
Looking forward to the draft, we can’t take a C or OG with a top 5 pick. I think we HAVE to go DT or LB in the first roung, C in the 2nd, and TWO more trench picks in the 3rd rd.
THEN, we might start talking about being a .500 team
October 17th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
Watching the Texas/Okla game. Damn, I thought Sam Bradford was a senior.
October 17th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
Jamarcus needs to start these things to start becoming successful:
1. Stop partying and drinking too much.
2. Hire a personal trainer (if he doesn’t want to do ot, the team better do it)
3. Start working overtime with his coaches and WR’s. Coming early for practice and staying late after practice.
4. Use the first two read process and internal clock. If his first two reads are not open or if he isn’t comfortable..TAKE OFF and RUN for the 1st down to get positive yardage.
5. Start wearing a list of plays that are taped to his left wrist, so he can refer to them whenever he wants or if he wants to change the play in the huddle. That will give him confidence to be independent at times.
October 17th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
DKnight:
The very fact that you feel the need to make that list tells us all we want to know about Russell.
Raider O:
This is the angriest I think I’ve seen you on here.
October 17th, 2009 at 12:32 pm
4. Use the first two read process and internal clock. If his first two reads are not open or if he isn’t comfortable..TAKE OFF and RUN for the 1st down to get positive yardage.
5. Start wearing a list of plays that are taped to his left wrist, so he can refer to them whenever he wants or if he wants to change the play in the huddle. That will give him confidence to be independent at times.
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Good ideas!
I think as Ellis and some of the other players and coaches have elluded to, he is already doing 1 and 3.
October 17th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
jhill Says:
October 17th, 2009 at 10:45 am
You guys are really trying to dig too deep for the answer.
Our defense is bad because CJ is not the player he was last year, and our LBs are soft as cotton.
Our offense is bad becasue we have NO oline, and NO experience at WR.
It’s THAT simple.
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agree with you on everything except cj. he had on ebad game!! and most of the deep passes wasnt his fault he had miscommunications with eugene and if its anybodys fault its cables for not putting huff in for eugene. johnson is a really good corner on our team and to see peole whinin sayin he sucks is stupid because everybody has bad games.
October 17th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
O,
Is it ok to fire Tressell now?
Purdue ?????
October 17th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
Taz,
Did u see him against Houston?
Gave him BIG props early, but the last few games, he’s been directly responsible for a lot of points.
Agree with you 100% on the Huff thing.
October 17th, 2009 at 12:52 pm
yeah i saw him at the houston game. the long johnson catch wasnt his fault. but i gotta admit i dont know where he was at at the walter/anderson long catch
October 17th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
If anyone deserves the bulk of the blame for this mess it would be Tom Cable,
I find it baffling why he felt the need to change things up from last year.
His insistance on throwing the ball cost this season. Look at the playcalling in the 1st half of San Diego game. We haven’t seen that since. Lots and lots and lots of deep throws. 50% of Russell’s throws against K.C were deep throws.
Throwing deep out of the end zone and a stubborn refusal to use Michael Bush and Johnnie Lee Higgins. An equally stubborn insistence on sticking with talent challeged players like Hiram Eugene, Erik Pears and Justin Fargas.
Cable turned out to be a disaster. There is enough talent to be competitive. Not this B.S we are watching now. If Davis were to accept a mistake? It would be hiring Cable. Promote Tollner and lets move on already
October 17th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
I seems like I spent the better part of the past twenty years yelling at the TV for the Raiders to run more but they never listen to me.
Must be an Al thing.
October 17th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
October 17th, 2009 at 10:10 am
jhill Says:
October 17th, 2009 at 10:08 am
SnB,
It ALL went wrong for us the moment we knew Satele wasn’t going to cut it at C. The next head scratcher was bringing old ass Carlisle back instead of drafting a OG. Next was Barnes getting hurt and Green having to go another term at RT. Gallery going down was the final straw.
I mean, what was REALLY going to happen with that Oline? 6 or 7 wins MAYBE like I told you.
Did I mention Chaz going down?
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40 yard screen passes on 3rd and long….
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Actually I think it was a 55 yard gain on a screen pass on 3rd and 24. Enuff said.
October 17th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
Damn Dakota!
That was way too easy. Might be a long day for the domers.
October 17th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams ….Do you not understand simple English????…or are you just blatantly ignorant????….I’m guessing Both…The “Plays” Cable calls doesn’t mean squat if the “Team” doesn’t execute them properly….Period….You seem to think Cable has the whole Playbook at his disposal to call plays from…..unfortunately JaPorkus (not unlike you) is a mental midget and can’t intellectually handle the offensive philosophy and terminology laid out in the Playbook…..therefore Cables hands are tied and he is limited in what plays he can call during the games….This makes it damn near impossible to make adjustments offensively during the games….The fact that the whole team can’t execute the Plays that are called effectively doesn’t help matters either.
You tel us all how Cable or any other coach for that matter is supposed to put together an effective game plan wih an idiot for QB that can’t understand the Plays…..No wonder the Giants thought it was a schrimage….The Raiders were unable to make adjustments….to counter what the Defense was doing.
October 17th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
O what about Pryor 5 turnovers
October 17th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
Uuuuuuuggggggggggrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Not a good year for My football teams! Raiders, The OSU, and SDSU!
All this losing is making me angry England. I compete, and I hate to lose!
I’m not a happy loser like Cable, all our staff, and most of the players!
October 17th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
Jhill,
Tressell should have been fired last season, but all that OSU progr cares about now is winning against Mich.
We start losing to Mich, and he will be fired!
Fire Tressell at the end of the season, but fire Cable Now!
October 17th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
I was asking my daughter what to watch on TV. She said anything but the Raiders!! She is 2 years old and she knows the Raiders are a bad team. Too bad.
Why would she want to sit with me to watch the raiders? I don’t cheer, I’m not happy watching them lose, and she can see that it’s a sad day when the Rsiders play!
FUC!!! You too Al Davis!!
October 17th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
16,
Dude should only run the option!! That’s it!! He is not a passing QB. He is not even a QB.
October 17th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
O you are a moron…
October 17th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
pathetic-totally pathetic-and at this moment i’m not talking about the team.all you geniuses want to fire the coach-and replace him with whom-Hackett.then fire him at the end of the year,then hire who?Russell hasn’t been able to learn the playbook in 2+ years and you want to bring in a new one.Cable,Kiffin,Shell,Turner,and the list goes on.if Cable was to be fired it should be because he hasn’t benched Russell yet.
October 17th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
As soon as they give JR some good WR’s and he tosses his first 300 plus game for a win most of the idiots here, youself included, will be saying ” I told you he’d be all right”… lol
October 17th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
NMIOT-Russell might turn out to be an exceptional QB,but he needs a wake-up call.he needs to understand it isn’t his god given right to be the QB of the Oakland Raiders,but that he has to earn it by his play and dedication.when EVERYONE who has come in contact with him or the team says the exact same thing about him,there has to be some truth to all the statements.if he is sucking it up at halftime,bench his arse to try and get the point across.i’m not advocating total banishment,just make a statement to the young man.
October 17th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
Talking Monkey,
I like JR, and people here know that.
October 17th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
Talking Monkey,
I was talking about Pryor and NOT JR.
October 17th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
its a raider board…
October 17th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
anyone want to bet that after SC beats ND the ‘experts’ will start saying ND hasn’t beat anyone and isn’t that good.
October 17th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
Russell might turn out to be the next Nobel Peace Prize winner too….and long before he throws for 300 yards (unless you’re counting intercetion yardage too).
JaMeatloaf is an lazy, waddling, idiot and a rich one at that. Take the money and run JaPorkus…Maybe you and Vince Young can open up a QB camp for the intellectually challenged.
October 17th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
Recommendation: Russell was held without a touchdown again for the fourth straight week; and though he did not throw any interceptions, he did lose three fumbles in the game. The next three teams on the Raiders’ schedule are all in the top 12 in the league in pass defense, so don’t expect Russell’s numbers to look pretty any time soon.
(Rotowire.com)
October 17th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
Hey O! Lefty!
Don’t worry, be happy.
Guy puts an ad in the paper for a wife.
He gets over a thousand replies and they all say the same thing.
“You can have mine”.
October 17th, 2009 at 2:43 pm
4EVA:
Russell didn’t have any interceptions because he overthrew the guys trying to intercept it.
October 17th, 2009 at 2:44 pm
I shouldn’t make sexist jokes like that.
Broads don’t like it.
October 17th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
Ur wrong Earl. Don’t give up on the big fellow yet…
October 17th, 2009 at 2:56 pm
I Russ had a great O line, experianced WR’s, consistent coaching and perfect play calling then I would give up too. but that’s not the case and everyone here knows it. in fact it’s just the opposite. No qb would have success back ther right now…
October 17th, 2009 at 2:56 pm
“If” – sorry
October 17th, 2009 at 3:01 pm
NMIOT-we don’t know that no QB would have success now.we only know that we haven’t had any success with Russell.and to be honest,it doesn’t look as if we will have any with him in the near future.
October 17th, 2009 at 3:05 pm
lol =)
October 17th, 2009 at 3:15 pm
Lefty there’s no success because you can’t build a successful game plan around an idiot who doesn’t know the Offense, or that can’t read a Defense and audible in the right play to beat that defensive formation…get a clue people.
I would love to see Frye get a start with a full week in pactice of working with the starting Offensive players….not thrown into a game already lost with a limited play selection cause Jumbo Russell was the starter.
October 17th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
How bout Michael Oher? Dinged inthe draft for a learning disorder he’s impressed with his quick deciphering of the Ravens play book, even flopping from right tackle to left last week to replace injured LT Jared Gaither and stonewalling the NFL’s sack leader Antwan Odom.
If he fairs well against Jared Allen and the Vikes…
October 17th, 2009 at 3:19 pm
Al has got absolutely no choice he’s into this tub of lard for a bundle of money.
October 17th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
You are wrong… flat out wrong… time will tell. If Al is willing to wait then i am too.
October 17th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
I’m happy.
I’m taking the family shopping. The wife does the buying, and me and our daughter have all the fun. We run, explore, chase things, and lots more. It’s great!
Have a great day/ Evening Gents, later Nation.
BTW, USC vs. ND is a great game!
October 17th, 2009 at 3:23 pm
Yeah I’m wrong….his stats and weekly performance prove how wrong I am….Gannon’s wrong too….so is Norman (Boomer) Esiason….everybody’s wrong but you idiots that forked out the cash for his jerseys. Hell, Andrew Walter is All Pro compared to this chump.
October 17th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
Crude Earl,
Your problem is that you place all the blame on the players. if that suits you then fine.
But answer this for me. Of all the Raider 1st and 2nd round picks since…let’s say last 10 yrs….there are only 4 of any credibility..
Asomugha, Thomas Howard, Zach Miller and a kicker Janikowski…..20 out of 24 are either not here or were straight up busts.
The Owner and the puppet coaches he hires are as responsible as anyone for setting up an environment and playbook that doesn’t allow for success.
October 17th, 2009 at 3:43 pm
Crude Earl,
JaMarcus Russell is Al Davis’ project. Davis’ draft pick and Davis supports him 100%. In fact, its not a reach to say that if you don’t support Russell…then you don’t support Davis.
Since you place a lot of faith in Davis….why don’t you just sit down and let them work it out!