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Schilens won’t play

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Sunday, October 18th, 2009 at 12:24 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Haven’t seen the inactive list, but my understanding is that Chaz Schilens is on it and won’t play.

Schilens looked to be running at somewhere near full speed doing pass patterns in shorts and a T-shirt along with receivers Louis Murphy, Todd Watkins, Javon Walker and Darrius Heyward-Bey, but the Raiders apparently believe he isn’t ready to play.

A friend doing network TV work informs me that as Raiders fans surrounded Al Davis, as they usually do before the game, there wasn’t the usual amount of fawning and hero worship. Instead, Davis was pepperered with questions about JaMarcus Russell (why doesn’t he sit), Javon Walker (why doesn’t he play) and Johnnie Lee Higgins (why is he on the bench).

Davis, to his credit fielded, interacted with the fans while making the way through the crowd with his security detail.

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122 Responses to “Schilens won’t play”

  1. jhill Says:

    Jason Campbell got benched …

    Just a little more fat for you JRuss haters to chew on, lol!

  2. RaiderRobG Says:

    The Rock would say…”IT DOESN”T MATTER IF HE PLAYS!”

  3. Darth Raider Says:

    You guys realize that its going to cost A LOT of money to lure Gruden back to the Raiders. Uncle Al might have to dangle the GM position just to have Gruden even consider coming here.

  4. jhill Says:

    Instead, Davis was pepperered with questions about JaMarcus Russell (why doesn’t he sit), Javon Walker (why doesn’t he play) and Johnnie Lee Higgins (why is he on the bench).

    —————————————————–

    Well, I guess that answers where some of the regulars are.

    Go get em guys!

    LOL at Al having a security detail! I’d hardly call Herrera and Priest “security”, lol!

  5. RaiderRobG Says:

    Apparently none of those fans had the brains or the balls to ask when Gruden’s coming back.

  6. RaiderRobG Says:

    JaMarcus fumbles 4 times throws two picks

  7. RaiderRobG Says:

    As I said earlier this week, Radiers lose 52-3, and cable is quoted as saying, “We’re really close!”

  8. RaiderRobG Says:

    Brees 21-27 320 4 tds!!!!!!!!!!!

  9. RaiderRobG Says:

    Favray throws another TD!!!!

  10. Richochet Says:

    what’s very obvious, from the above, is RobG is a kid.
    That’s what kids do..post after post saying silly grade school comments. Hoping for something back.

    And, as he already admitted? He’s posting on the Vikings board as a “life long fan”. He’s also posting on Denver’s board, as we speak, claiming to “follow the team since the 8th grade, in 2006″

    Kids…I mean, who would mow our lawns without them?

  11. raidermarty Says:

    C’mon Raiders stay in the game today.When things get tough-don’t give up! We believe in you! GO RAIDERS

  12. JB Says:

    And we had a chance for Brees and decided he wasn’t up to our standards. Good decision Al. Another TD for Brees BTW.

  13. SharkCatcher Says:

    Breaking news …The saints say playing the Giants feels like a practice scrimage….lol..I love it!

  14. Richochet Says:

    jhill Says:
    October 18th, 2009 at 12:00 pm
    Any player who isn’t positive at the beginning of every season should be out of the league, same with the coaches.

    You guys forget these guys aren’t just playing for now. Their whole career depends on each players individual effort NOW. You think Aso starts off the season automatically with low morale? Or Fargas? Whoever?

    Having a qb that single handedly loses the game for you destroys the morale..TODAY. Not last year’s morale, not 3 years ago..NOW..today.

    If you’ve never played sports, you won’t know what I’m talking about.

    —————————————————-

    Agree with most of that!

    But again, I have to ask AGAIN, and I’m hoping for the first lucid response to this question.

    EXACTLY WHEN DID THE TEAM LOSE MORALE BECAUSE OF THE QB?

    Game 1? Well the defense sure played it’s ass of against KC, and the team WON the game.

    Game 2? After a win?

    Game 3? Was it at halftime after only being down 13-3? Or was it when the defense came out after the half and made it 20-3? Or was it when DMac fumbled on the next drive?

    Game 4? After the WRs dropped 9 passes? After the defense gave up big play after big play?

    And to be clear, my point AGAIN is how dare ANYONE of these sorry ass players points the finger at anyone else? They ALL need to stay after practice and get on the same page. They ALL suck!

    At least the QB hasn’t quit on his sorry ass teammates!
    ======================
    When did the TEAM LOSE MORALE BECAUSE OF THE QB?

    You don’t believe the players view things as approaching hopeless, knowing that regardless of what the #1 POSITION ON THE TEAM DOES, he won’t be yanked?

    How’s that good for morale?

    That the player can fumble over and over and over..and lose all of them..while having the absolute WORST STATS OF ANY STARTING QB in the NFL, and yet still, he’s going to stay in, regardless? And you don’t think that is a morale killer?

    Not saying their aren’t other instances that could also lead to low morale..from HC changes, to wondering why Walker sits, while Bey flounders, to wondering why Cable doesn’t get in certain players faces and demand better..but let me ask again..is there ANY OTHER PLAYER ON THE RAIDERS, WHO IS A STARTER, THAT YOU BELIEVE IS IN A PROMINENT POSITION, WHO IS DOING A WORSE JOB THAN THE QB?

    No..no way.

  15. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    RobG, Gruden wouldn’t come back without guaranteed $$$, something Al would not do. Gruden would make sure that the stupid clause about “Raider tradition” would be lifted, too. Gruden would make certain that he’d be allowed to coach the team his way, or be fired, with full contract compensation. One or the other. Gruden wouldn’t stop foot here for anything less. He’s got a good gig, now. National television is a tough nut to crack.

  16. Ryan Says:

    Today, the Raiders shock the world!

    GO RAIDERS!

  17. UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER Says:

    LET’S GO RAIDERS

  18. Moose Says:

    The first 3 and out….bets on Jruss walks back to the bench and not to Cable or Hackett..

  19. JB Says:

    Brees has a quick accurate release. He knows 100% of their playbook. He can read defenses and audiblize out of bad called play. He’s a real team leader and cheerleader. He’s a winner. Everything JaBustus is NOT!

  20. 504 Raider Says:

    Schilens looked to be running at somewhere near full speed doing pass patterns in shorts and a T-shirt along with receivers Louis Murphy, Todd Watkins, Javon Walker and Darrius Heyward-Bey, but the Raiders apparently believe he isn’t ready to play.

    ————————————————————————————————————–

    Him being inactive better damn well be because he was mostly running stride for stride with Javon.

  21. alisgod Says:

    It looks like the Saints already shocked the world today. I guarantee you no one expected them to hang 41+ on the Giants. Wow, what an amazing offense.

  22. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Alisgod,

    Okay bro…I am with you on this. This is the week!

  23. jhill Says:

    Not saying their aren’t other instances that could also lead to low morale..from HC changes, to wondering why Walker sits, while Bey flounders, to wondering why Cable doesn’t get in certain players faces and demand better..but let me ask again..is there ANY OTHER PLAYER ON THE RAIDERS, WHO IS A STARTER, THAT YOU BELIEVE IS IN A PROMINENT POSITION, WHO IS DOING A WORSE JOB THAN THE QB?

    —————————————————–

    I think the prominent position qualifier is what I’m having trouble with. Agree with everything else. Prominent position compared to what other position?

    I think the worst position on the team has been C. A close 2nd has been WR. DT and LB are next on my list, THEN QB.

    I know there are some jokes coming but the fact is we win the SD game with better play from our LBs on those 4th qtr 3rd and 12s. We win the SD game if the WRs don’t drop TD passes and run bad routes. That seems to be the game everyone is saying lost the season for us.

    ANY of those things happen in the SD game and we are 2 and 0.

    Now with that said, I think we STILL lose the Denver game b/c Cable is, lol, well, Cable.

    Houston sucks, so those 9 dropped passes and a little defense and maybe that game is closer.

    Regardless, with this Oline, this was a 7 win team at best like I’ve said all along. Best hope was for SD and Denver to be as bad as we all thought they would be and we sneak into the playoffs.

    Oh well! Too early to talk draft?

  24. alisgod Says:

    SNB,

    Without Schilens, I am very iffy bro. I know the D will come out swinging but i dont think the O can do it without Schilens. Unless we plan on pounding the rock, we are screwed today.

    JR needs a receiver to bail him out and we dont have one. I think Miller is little overrated IMO. He is good but I dont think great like a Novachek, Christensen, Gates or Gonzales. Schilens is the only guy that bails him out on our team.

  25. jhill Says:

    From here on out, I’m rooting for the teams that have a worse record than we do!

    For obvious reasons!

  26. alisgod Says:

    SharkCatcher Says:
    October 18th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
    Breaking news …The saints say playing the Giants feels like a practice scrimage….lol..I love it!
    ————————–

    Can you say Karma?

  27. jhill Says:

    LOL at VikingRobG team!

    How about Baltimore’s defense playing despite giving up 30 pts?!?!?!

    Quitters??? On our team????? PUHLEEZE identify them and cut them before the game.

  28. JB Says:

    The Eagles have been blitzing 46.3% of the time. JaBustus better get on his horse and be ready to run for his life. It would be a great opportunity for a BQB to hit the hot slanting receivers for big gains. Our only problem is the hitting aspect of that equation. JaBustus’ accuracy has been so bad he may not even get it by the line of scrimmage.

  29. UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER Says:

    RaiderRobG Says:
    October 18th, 2009 at 12:38 pm
    Favray throws another TD!!!!

    ===================

    HOW ABOUT THEM VIKINGS

    GET LOST YOU LOSER ! THIS IS A RAIDER BLOG !!!!!!

  30. raidermarty Says:

    There is no way chuckie would come back to the RAIDERS

  31. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Armond, Al would have to guarantee Gruden the money up front, and he’d have to put it in clear language that the only cause Gruden could be fired for is bringing a gun to work and shooting everyone. None of this “raider tradition” clause. Gruden has a good job right now. Do you honestly think he’d come here for peanuts, or under a contract with language allowing Al to fire him w/o pay?

  32. 504 Raider Says:

    JB Says:
    October 18th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
    Brees has a quick accurate release. He knows 100% of their playbook. He can read defenses and audiblize out of bad called play. He’s a real team leader and cheerleader. He’s a winner. Everything JaBustus is NOT!

    ————————————————————————————————————–

    Brees works 12 hr days down here, even on Tuesdays. He and Payton are exactly the way Gannon and Gruden used to be.

    JaMarcus is making strides though. Last week for the first time since he became a Raider I saw him looking at the faxes from upstairs on the sideline with his QB coaches.

  33. armond Says:

    if al was smart he would think about luring gruden back. we need a real coach who has a winning pedigree not to mention a personality to inspire these guys. we have no fire in this team. grudens energy as a coach does so much for a young team like this. alot of people think gruden is bad for young teams but he may be right for this one. he loves the wildcat(DMC) and he said he will study the spread attack. doesnt sound like a guy who is conservative. lets be honest the weapons on this team are far more athletic fast and explosive to be conservative. atleast gruden has an idea how to use talent and i believe u would see a better jamarcus. gruden+hackett+russell=success, cable+hackett+russell=bullsheit. we wr for the spread and i believe z miller would also be used better by gruden. he atleast has idea how to manage an offense properly. we would be a much tougher team physically and MENTALLY.

  34. 16yearsold16yearfan Says:

    Im at the game

  35. jhill Says:

    DHB drops pass on 2nd and 10.

    Russell audibles to a run on a 3rd and 10

    More of the same I see.

  36. lefty12 Says:

    DHB drops pass-Greg Papa-bad pass,bad attempt at catching it.-if you are going to report Jhill,report the whole true story.

  37. alisgod Says:

    i told you the D will come out swwinggingggg!!!!!!

  38. JB Says:

    Anybody find the game on the Internet someplace? If so, please share your link. Thanks

  39. Ryan Says:

    3 and out. Weird.

  40. Ryan Says:

    3 and out right back with a blitz

  41. jhill Says:

    A Blitz on 3rd dn?????

    Well what do you know? A sack!

  42. armond Says:

    YEAH NONE OF THESE SITES ARE WORKING SO FAR

  43. raideringeorgia Says:

    Anyone know of a working link to watch the game online? Channelsurfing.net isn’t working.

  44. IndianaRaider Says:

    Defense always comes out swinging, but they get worn out with the countless 3 and outs.

  45. raiderlifer24 Says:

    anyone no of a working link to watch the game online atdhe.net isnt working for some reason

  46. Ryan Says:

    Let’s see. Spin into the blitz or run away from it. Nice choice, 2

  47. 16yearsold16yearfan Says:

    The new t-sizzle trevor scott 2 sacks

  48. jhill Says:

    Lefty,

    You report what you hear, and I’ll report what I see. I’m looking for WRs to make plays when the ball hits them in the hands.

    I said Jamarcus made a dumb audible, damn!

  49. Ryan Says:

    3 and out. Weird. (Not a duplicate post.)

  50. Ryan Says:

    I’m looking for Russell to throw the ball on a receiver on time instead of late and behind the WR.

  51. IndianaRaider Says:

    Defence going to be worn out by end of the first quarter, another week, same results.

  52. raiderlifer24 Says:

    http://p2p4u.net/watch-live-sports.php?id=6891&link=1
    i found this link its not the greatest in the world but you can see it at least im still looking for better if i find i will post

  53. jhill Says:

    DJ Hero ?!?!!?

    Guitar Hero wasn’t doing good enough in certain areas I guess.

    LMFAO!

  54. jhill Says:

    You mean like he did to Miller, Ryan?

    And LOL at the sack being on the QB. Maybe he shouldn’t have spun to avoid the guy who was about to knock the shyt outta him?

    Cmon dude!

  55. 504 Raider Says:

    There’s Morrison celebrating a tackle then watch him get beat for big chunks.

  56. RaiderRobG Says:

    FAV RAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

  57. lefty12 Says:

    Jhill has become russells biggest apologist.excuses,excuses,excuses-nothing is ever his fault.earlier he said his 12-30 for 208yds-1td,2int. game against SD was a good game.

  58. RaiderRobG Says:

    That old Bret FAVRAY

  59. 504 Raider Says:

    Good sign: Seymour looks like he’s into it.

  60. raiderlifer24 Says:

    http://p2p4u.net/watch-live-sports.php?id=6891&link=1
    this link isnt the greatest im still looking for something better if i find i will share

  61. RaiderRobG Says:

    okay so maybe 49-3

  62. jhill Says:

    Ryan Says:
    October 18th, 2009 at 1:35 pm

    That’s on the Rookie WR. Russell really needs Schilens.

    ——————————————————-

    Careful Ryan,

    One word of blame going to anyone other than Russell and you are an apologist.

    The announcers, not the homer ones, are saying that BOTH drops are on DHB and Murphy.

    So Lefty keep saying what you want, but I can care less. I see what I see.

    The team has quit, huh? Doesn’t look that way to me!

  63. raideringeorgia Says:

    # raiderlifer24 Says:
    October 18th, 2009 at 1:26 pm

    anyone no of a working link to watch the game online atdhe.net isnt working for some reason
    That link is working now raiderlifer24

  64. IndianaRaider Says:

    missed FQ, makes that int not hurt as bad, defense is playing rough today, but unless the offense gets something rolling, it wont last.

  65. armond Says:

    anyone trying to watch online should be able to see the game on atdhe.net site now. its finally working.

  66. Ryan Says:

    That’s on the Rookie WR. Russell really needs Schilens.

  67. armond Says:

    murphy has to catch that. yeah but its all russell’s fault. why the hell doesnt cable just look to run the ball for now? maddenraider i was thinking they were blackin the game out on the net too. wouldnt that be funny

  68. 408RAIDER Says:

    hahahahaha ravens lost

  69. RaiderRobG Says:

    Favray was awesome today

  70. jhill Says:

    he said his 12-30 for 208yds-1td,2int. game against SD was a good game.

    —————————————————–

    There used to be a poster on here named Lefty12 that was a much more astute football guy. Never would he simply post a stat line to explain how a person played.

    Where are you Lefty12? Someone is trolling you!

  71. Darth Raider Says:

    Try going to http://www.atdhe.net It worked for me.

  72. SharkCatcher Says:

    Im Missing the game Help!

  73. 504 Raider Says:

    I gotta catch that ball. It’s my job to catch the ball.

    Louis Murphy

  74. 408RAIDER Says:

    where’s the link??? Come on I know 1 of you pirates can hook me up…. :P

  75. alisgod Says:

    i knew they were going to struggle without Schilens

  76. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    thanks, armond. that link just had the dead color bar a while ago. i’ll try again. that torrent stream seems to be working too, from myp2p. slow as a mutha, though.

  77. IndianaRaider Says:

    another 3 and out, the streak continues, lol

  78. armond Says:

    we cant move a damn soul off that line. its disgusting to see them get manhandled like that.

  79. Richochet Says:

    atdhe.net just starting working to see the game..wasn’t earlier.

  80. jhill Says:

    Is anyone actaully watching the game?

    Do you hear the commentators and see how they are diagraming our lack of success?

    Did you haer them just say the QB is playing well but the WR need to catch the ball?

    Did you see them just diagram Morris, Satele, and Carlisle NOT being able to block the “triangle”? Do half of you even know what the triangle is? LMFAO!

    Ahhh, this is too funny!

  81. 504 Raider Says:

    I say we hire Antonio Pierce as Defensive Coordinator tomorrow. Nobody has gotten our guys to play like this in a long time.

  82. 408RAIDER Says:

    thanx MR….

  83. 504 Raider Says:

    Chris johnson is garbage and Nnamdi just collecting a check.

  84. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    408,

    http://www.atdhe.net/8979/watch-philadelphia-eagles-vs-oakland-raiders

  85. Ryan Says:

    3 and out. Wierd. (Again, not a duplicate.)

  86. lefty12 Says:

    when a QB has touch on his passes it is possible for WRs to make catches that are thrown off target.when the QB just throws lasers those catches are next to impossible.unfortunately our QB has very little touch on his passes thus many that would be catchable are not.

  87. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    NFL.com will stream it for free later tonight, too. Starting at midnight, I think. Then for the next couple of days, sans when MNF is on.

  88. 408RAIDER Says:

    whats wrong with Nnamdi

  89. alisgod Says:

    504,

    I have been saying alw week long. Antonio Pierce was the best motivator for the Raiders in the last 6 years. You can beat the man BUT DONT SPIT ON HIM.

  90. 16yearsold16yearfan Says:

    Touchdown!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  91. Ryan Says:

    Zack is one of the smartest TE in the NFL.

    GO RAIDERS!

  92. Timmah Says:

    WOoow

  93. Ryan Says:

    Great blocks for Murphy downfield

  94. jhill Says:

    WOW!

    What a catch on by Jackson!

    That pass was NOT on target, but WRs get paid to make plays!

    CJ gives up ANOTHER big pass play. Is there a pattern developing here?

  95. Thec07 Says:

    Nice blitz….

  96. armond Says:

    how about that a blitz and a chnage of defense!! damn who wouldve thought how good we can look when we arent so predictable.

  97. IndianaRaider Says:

    lol we finally blitz and its paying off, go figure.

  98. Thec07 Says:

    That pass to jackson, we were stubling and bumbling players running into each other on the blitz….

  99. 408RAIDER Says:

    wow this game is like 2 minuets ahead of the raido feed

  100. alisgod Says:

    i am gonnna cry!!!!!

  101. armond Says:

    now thats how u make a play!

  102. alisgod Says:

    I TOLD YOU GUYS TO GO TO THIS GAME!!!!!!!!

  103. Thec07 Says:

    Wow….Murphy is BADASS>>>>

  104. jhill Says:

    lefty12 Says:
    October 18th, 2009 at 1:43 pm

    when a QB has touch on his passes it is possible for WRs to make catches that are thrown off target.when the QB just throws lasers those catches are next to impossible.unfortunately our QB has very little touch on his passes thus many that would be catchable are not.

    —————————————————-

    And you have the nerve to talk about someone making excuses. Are you fugging kidding me?

    The answers are pretty simple! Just like we ALL know bringing pressure makes a difference like we FINALLY see from the defense, we ALL know WRs simply need catch balls that both of their hands touch!

    And why the FUGG is Holland still returning kicks!

  105. raidermarty Says:

    Yeah RAIDERS!!!!!!!!
    \

  106. jhill Says:

    That’s WTF I’m talking about!

    Make a gawd damn play!

    The QB hits Miller in stride for 6!

  107. 408RAIDER Says:

    Hell yeah!!!!!! TD Miller

    word press sux

  108. jhill Says:

    What blocking by Murphy!

    Where are all the boo birds!

    Raiders baby!!!!!!!!

  109. armond Says:

    great blocking by murphy and hopefully they use this for the rest of this season.

  110. 16yearsold16yearfan Says:

    They hate us

  111. Timmah Says:

    woow refs hate us again…

  112. Ryan Says:

    That should give Russell some confidence. Nice PI Route

  113. Thec07 Says:

    Need to keep the pressure on this dude, keep blitzing his azz

  114. Random Drug Tester Says:

    zach miller and louis murphy can stay

  115. 408RAIDER Says:

    F these damn Zebras….

    fat man gettin the 15 yarder

  116. alisgod Says:

    where’s 21?

  117. Timmah Says:

    I love how its still the first quarter and the refs are already calling crap against us that should be.

  118. Thec07 Says:

    I dont think its a conspiricay against the raiders, but it does kill momentum, when that refs start with these phantom calls, and make up rules…

  119. 408RAIDER Says:

    this link sux…

  120. Timmah Says:

    I didn’t think it was a conspiracy, but this crap is happening every week.

  121. raidermarty Says:

    C’mon JaMarcus come alive!!!!!!

  122. radraider Says:

    murphy wide open should have been TD but JR cant get him the ball

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