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Schilens to the rescue of unproductive WR corps

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Monday, October 19th, 2009 at 4:14 pm in Oakland Raiders.

News, notes and quotes following the Raiders open locker room session and press briefing with Tom Cable a day after a 13-9 win over the Philadelphia Eagles:

– Following a week in which the Raidrs threw just eight of 28 passes to wide receivers, completing two of them for six yards, comes the long-anticipated return of wide receiver Chaz Schilens.

“Chaz Schilens (foot) will be back and ready to go,” Cable said. “We’ll talk later in the week about how we’re going to put that group together in terms of who or who might not dress so I really have nothing for you today on that.”

Raiders wide receivers have 19 receptions for 264 yards, with rookie Louis Murphy the leader with 12 catches and 264 yards. At present, there are 38 individual wide receivers with more than 19 receptions and 37 with more than 264 yards.

Cable sidestepped the quesiton about lack of production among the wideouts and turned it into a concern for the offense as a whole, but later noted he was very happy with the blocking of both Murphy, whose two blocks sprung Zach Miller’s 86-yard touchdown catch, and Darrius Heyward-Bey.

Cable cited a Heyward-Bey block on a 14-yard run by Justin Fargas in which the rookie “flat-backed” a cornerback with perfect form. Heyward-Bey had two receptions for 36 yards.

– Not so fast on the Raiders suddenly being transformed into a heavy pressure team, regardless of the success they enjoyed against the Eagles.

“I think we’ll do what we can, and what we think it takes to win every Sunday,” Cable said. “I think that has to be our sole purpose, whatever that is.”

In the locker room after the game, cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha relayed that coordinator John Marshall said he’d “probably get yelled at” for all the extra pressure, a clear inference to Al Davis and his fondness for natural four-man pressure backed by man-to-man defense.

When Cable was asked what Asomugha was talking about, he said, with a rather pained expression, “I don’t know, maybe it’s one of the players. I have no idea. Will we blitz? To me, you blitz based on (a) if you can get there, if you can execute it. We did a great job of that yesterday. I think so long as we can do it, why not? Why not?”

– To be fair, the Eagles, who are quick to abandon the run and who were playing with a makeshift offensive line, were a perfect team to blitz. To send defenders at the rate the Raiders did against Philadelphia against teams which can run well and with a better line would be problematic.

But it perhaps it will get them to at least dial up the pressure from non-existent to on occasion.

– Running back Michael Bush said in the locker room he’d taken a blow to the back of the head, which kept him out of the game and gave the lion’s share of the work to Justin Fargas. Fargas responded with 87 yards on 24 carries, the most by a Raiders running back this season.

“As you know, I have a fondness for him in that he plays the game the way I think your supposed to,” Cable said. “He’s just all out and really doesn’t worry about his body or whatever that is and he just goes at the defense a thousand miles an hour and let the smoke clear and do it again.

“I like that. I like that. I think our team needs that. I think it’s good for our team. I think that really kind of underlines taking the fight to the opponent. So, proud of him and proud of what he brings to the table.”

– Cable’s handling of public commentary regarding JaMarcus Russell is much like the quarterback’s demeanor himself. The coach never gets too high or too low. A day after chiding reporters for failing to take into account Russell’s “improvement” during one-sided losses to Houston and the New York Giants, he was restrained in his enthusiasm for Russell’s game against the Eagles.

“Where he is, where he goes with it will, ultimately, be up to him,” Cable said. “How good he wants to be, how much he’s willing to, ultimately, put into it to get what he should get out of it. He’s just like everyone else on this football team, particularly on offense. They’ve got to take the thought that yesterday was nice, it feels good to wake up today, but we need to get better.”

– When the Raiders failed to convert a fourth-and-1 on their first possession of the second half after reaching the Philadelphia 40, Russell misfired on a long pass to an open Murphy when Cable said he could have gotten the first down by either running it himself or throwing to Gary Russell in the flat.

“I said to JaMarcus, ‘Okay, you saw it and you took the shot. Now we’ve got to make that play. If we’re gonna’ take the shot, we got to make the play,’ ” Cable said. “(I) can’t be down on him going for it because they came out of coverage. He was uncovered deep. Certainly could’ve dumped it or ran it in himself for the first down.”

– Game balls were awarded to punter Shane Lechler, linebacker Kirk Morrison, running back Gary Russell, safety Tyvon Branch and tight end Zach Miller.

Cable cited Morrison’s skill in getting the defense properly aligned and on the same page, Russell’s blocking and receiving (5 catches for 50 yards _ most by a Raiders fullback since Jon Ritchie in 2000), the coverage and tackling of Branch, and Miller’s blocking and receiving.

– Miller’s 86-yard touchdown reception from JaMarcus Russell was his first since a 63-yard scoring pass from Russell in Week 4 last season. In between touchdowns, Miller caught 64 passes for 876 yards over 17 games without getting in the end zone.

Miller had three touchdowns as a rookie and now has five in 121 career receptions. Miller is averaging 16.9 yards on 21 receptions. His 139 yards receiving against the Eagles was a career high and his first time over 100 yards receiving in a game.

Miller is fourth in the NFL in receiving yards among tight ends and leads his position group in yards per catch.

– Chris Johnson’s big hit on Leonard Weaver stopped the Eagles’ fullback for no gain and forced a 45-yard David Akers field goal to make the score 13-9 as Philadelphia made a run into Oakland territory in an attempt to tie the score.

Johnson, playing a soft zone, saw McNabb’s options dwindling and came up to flatten a player who outweighs him by 50 pounds.

“My mentor wasn’t too known for hitting, so I want to be known as a hitter and a cover man,” Johnson said. “I just take pride in tackling, so I mean, if it’s made for me to make a play I’m gonna try to make a big hit, or a big play.”

Johnson’s mentor is Deion Sanders, the future Hall of Fame cornerback whose coverage skills were unmatched and his hitting skills limited to his time with the Atlanta Braves, San Francisco Giants and Cincinnati Reds.

His advice to Johnson later Sunday evening?

“He just told me make sure I don’t end up getting hurt trying to knock fullbacks out,” Johnson said. “I take it as a joke, but you’ve just got to take your chances and play ball.”

– The Raiders announced crowd of 49,642 had plenty to cheer about, but at least two Raiders are hoping for more volume with a full house against the Jets.

“Show up early. We don’t want no blackouts,” linebacker Thomas Howard said. “We want it sold out by Thursday. So, I’m calling the fans out a little bit.”

Michael Bush credited the fans for keeping the Raiders into it even after Stanford Routt’s interception return for a touchdown was nullified by a pass interference penalty.

“The fans still got behind us. The fans play a lot, in my mind, a part to how we play. If everybody comes out to the game,” Bush said, looking directly into a video camera for effect as delivering a message, “like they should, it will be a good thing.”

– Cable sounded more optimistic about the availability of left guard Robert Gallery than Gallery himself. He listed him as questionable, along with right tackle Cornell Green (calf). Linebacker Ricky Brown (ankle), running back Darren McFadden (knee) and wide receiver Nick Miller (shin) are out.

Asomugha (eye) should be fine to practice Wednesday, Cable said, but will wear a protective shield in his helmet against the Jets.

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444 Responses to “Schilens to the rescue of unproductive WR corps”

  1. 4evaRaider Says:

    we rollin

  2. BS Detector Says:

    Dakota Says:
    October 19th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
    Damn, our only chance to get rid of Cable “for cause” is an arrest.

    Al, why are you putting pressure on Washington and Marshall to back up Cable? This is your chance to “for cause” another sheeety coach!
    =====================================
    The sad thing is you clearly think that you are actually funny or clever.

  3. BS Detector Says:

    Raider Dell Says:
    October 19th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
    Dakota

    Get a life!! What’s up with the anger in your comments?
    ==============================
    Damn Dell, I damn near spilled my frosty beverage. Don’t hide your feelings ok?

  4. Silver-n-Smac Says:

    Hey Dakota:

    You just don’t get it, do you man?

    I’m glad we drafted D-Mac. I think a lot of people are.

    That’s not the point.

    The point is that 80 yard runs do NOT define a successful running game. Yeah, the instant scoring ability is fantastic to have on your team, but, your bread & butter HAS to be those boring 3, 4, 5 yard runs. Good teams pound the ball throughout a football game to set up a successful passing game.

    I just do not believe that D-Mac brings that consistant between-the-tackles running, down after down.

    I love him on our team. But, I maintain that the majority of the pounding has to be comin’ from Fargas or Bush.

  5. Silver-n-Smac Says:

    # Raider Dell Says:
    October 19th, 2009 at 4:13 pm

    NATION WHAT’SUP!!!!

    To all that showed up at the Coliseum, many thanks for the tremendous shouts of encouragement. You were LOUD!!!!!!!

    ******************************************

    One of the best parts of yesterday was watching the Eagles fans walking back to their cars with their tails between their legs.

    I think they all thought they were comin’ out to the Coliseum for a great time out yesterday.

  6. Dakota Says:

    Silver-n-smac,

    You may have a point…but I am not ready to give up on him yet…if it turns out that he can’t do it, then fine, but I don’t think he has been given a chance as of yet. Things have been so screwy here the past two years, none of our backs have had success. If Bush and Fargas were performing well behind this line, with this QB that would be one thing, but they have not had success either.

    Time will tell.

    You are not on the list…yet.

  7. TownRaider510 Says:

    POW!

  8. UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER Says:

    Asomugha (eye) should be fine to practice Wednesday, Cable said, but will wear a protective shield in his helmet against the Jets.
    ===========================

    THAT’S GREAT NEWS ROUTT WAS GOOD SUNDAY BUT……….

  9. Raider Dell Says:

    Dakota

    I have read your comments for over two years. I have laughed and laughed louder over many. You have a bite to your comments today.

    I read all of your comments today, so without question I’m not making any grand assumptions about your latest comments.

    I know you hate the current state of the Raiders, aka HC, Owner, but man, and let some of us exhale today and smile for a good win.

  10. 408RAIDER Says:

    Bout time thanx Jerry…. Now get back to slacking….

  11. DKnight007 Says:

    When Chaz gets back…lets hope Cable and Tollner think outside their caveman box and rotate both JLH and DHB in the slot!

    Throw some WR bubble screens to JLH and DHB and get at least two blockers in front of them and watch them take it to the house!!

  12. Raider Dell Says:

    Alisgod, Silver n Smac,

    I give you major props for continuing to plug away in this blog with all this negativity. I’m not blinded from the players to the owner, but sometimes this site gets to much.

    I high five you both, keep it up you old dudes.

  13. alisgod Says:

    Jerry,

    No we dont care about being FAIR to the eagles for their makeshift line. I mean do the league care about our makeshift line while laughing at us.

    PLEASE STOP APOLOGIZING FOR THIS WIN. Did the Raiders just ruined an article you wrote prior to the game?

  14. BS Detector Says:

    alisgod Says:
    October 19th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
    Jerry,

    No we dont care about being FAIR to the eagles for their makeshift line. I mean do the league care about our makeshift line while laughing at us.

    PLEASE STOP APOLOGIZING FOR THIS WIN. Did the Raiders just ruined an article you wrote prior to the game?
    ———————————-
    LMFAO

  15. Silver-n-Smac Says:

    # Dakota Says:
    October 19th, 2009 at 4:28 pm

    Silver-n-smac,

    You may have a point…but I am not ready to give up on him yet…if it turns out that he can’t do it, then fine, but I don’t think he has been given a chance as of yet. Things have been so screwy here the past two years, none of our backs have had success. If Bush and Fargas were performing well behind this line, with this QB that would be one thing, but they have not had success either.

    Time will tell.

    You are not on the list…yet.

    ********************************************

    Dakota:

    Like I said – I like D-Mac, and he may prove to be an every-down back. If I were so smart to know, I’d be a rich man right now.

    As for your list, hell, I don’t care one way or another if I’m on it.

    What’re you gonna do? Hang everyone on the list? LOL

  16. morilla Says:

    Fargas makes D-Mac look like a little girl. Fargas is only concerned about running downhill with a chip on his shoulder. He is always looking to punish defenders and fight for every inch. North and South and no gimmicks.

    I’ll take Fargas or Bush over D-Mac any day. Mcfaddens runs seem soft and lacking the explosive power you see from the other two.

  17. BS Detector Says:

    morilla Says:
    October 19th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
    Fargas makes D-Mac look like a little girl. Fargas is only concerned about running downhill with a chip on his shoulder. He is always looking to punish defenders and fight for every inch. North and South and no gimmicks.

    I’ll take Fargas or Bush over D-Mac any day. Mcfaddens runs seem soft and lacking the explosive power you see from the other two.
    =========================================
    Amen

    He needs to be spending his down time learning how to hold on to the ball.

    To hear Dakota tell it, McFumbles is the man and it’s the Raiders fault that he sucks, regardless of the fact that McFumbles was KNOWN for fumbling at Arkansas, to the tune of 23 fumbles.

    23 Fumbles!

  18. miketyson Says:

    i hope chaz plays against the jets and makes an impact! we really need a reciever that catches the ball when it hits him in the hands

  19. Dakota Says:

    Ladies,

    You go ahead and exhale for a while, bask in the glow of the victory, lol….time for me to go home.

    But remember, Cable is still not a good NFL HC, Fargas still can’t score, DHB still can’t catch, Al is still Al. Yesterday’s victory was nice, but it only changes whether we finish 4-12, 5-11 or 6-10. If you take some satisfaction from that, well, I guess that is your choice, lol.

  20. miketyson Says:

    GO RAIDERS! BEAT THE JETS!!! RUSSELL TO SCHILENS…..TOUCHDOWN!!!

  21. M Lonetree Says:

    RaiderDell,

    wherever you are, nice to see your moniker. hope you are well my friend.

    note : for all of you who are going to spend the week moaning that Cable/Marshall are going to abandon the blitz as Cable was non-committal about such in his comments, would you prefer that he gives out the playbook to the Jets before the game?

  22. KoolKell Says:

    In the locker room after the game, cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha relayed that coordinator John Marshall said he’d “probably get yelled at” for all the extra pressure, a clear inference to Al Davis and his fondness for natural four-man pressure backed by man-to-man defense.
    ===========================
    Maybe we need leadership from the Coaches, maybe the Coaches need to grow a backbone.

  23. raiderdav Says:

    How come the pigeon didn’t get a game ball, peeps don’t get too excited, cryptkeeper wants the spotlight the defense will go back playing the same man to man coverage this Sunday wait and see

  24. Silver-n-Smac Says:

    RaiderDell:

    Right back at ya man. Yeah, the negativity around here blew me away when I first discovered this site a few months ago.

    I mean, there’s nothing wrong with being critical, when criticism is deserved.

    But absolutely hating your own team and ripping everything associated with it is so weak.

    Not only is it weak, it’a a huge waste of one’s time.

    If I hate something THAT much, you think I’m gonna spend all this time yackin’ about it?

    Hell no!

    Go Raiders!

  25. Ryan Says:

    Are they going retro for the Jets game? (Like the comercial?)

  26. M Lonetree Says:

    Dakota,

    relax my friend. yes it was only one game yesterday, but it beats a poke in the eye with a sharp stick while getting buried in a rockslide with a western diamondback latched onto your calf. a victory is warm and welcome.

  27. Mistabrown Says:

    Cable you spineless turd just call it what it is!!!

    “When Cable was asked what Asomugha was talking about, he said, with a rather pained expression, “I don’t know, maybe it’s one of the players. I have no idea. Will we blitz? To me, you blitz based on (a) if you can get there, if you can execute it. We did a great job of that yesterday. I think so long as we can do it, why not? Why not?”

  28. Silver-n-Smac Says:

    # KoolKell Says:
    October 19th, 2009 at 4:45 pm

    In the locker room after the game, cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha relayed that coordinator John Marshall said he’d “probably get yelled at” for all the extra pressure, a clear inference to Al Davis and his fondness for natural four-man pressure backed by man-to-man defense.
    ===========================
    Maybe we need leadership from the Coaches, maybe the Coaches need to grow a backbone.

    **********************************

    Maybe the players need to just shut up and play football and not give the media more over-blown stories to write about in regards to this team.

  29. Raider Dell Says:

    M

    Right back at you. Hope all is well.

    That poke in the eye is on cue, especially what happened to Nnamdi yesterday.

  30. Raider O Says:

    Can we get Huff in the field!! He has 3 picks, played great, so why is Eugene starting?

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  32. Brien the General 510 Says:

    # priesttj Says:
    October 18th, 2009 at 10:16 pm

    Alisgod, if this doesn’t get these guy’s to understand how important Fargas is to this team nothing will.

    As you can see Brien and all the anti-Fargas crowd aren’t in here and it’s easy to see why.
    ***************************************************

    # Brien the General Says:
    October 18th, 2009 at 9:33 pm

    # Brien the General 510 Says:
    October 16th, 2009 at 9:23 am

    Haha i highly doubt we win this game unless Philly comes in Oakland overlooking the Raiders completely. Too bad the Edgewater aint open anymore. Maybe then the Philly players would have a big letdown. Cant see it now.

    You really think Russell gonna do shyt? Schilens aint playing and we still run that old ass lame defense. I just dont see how they can win unless the o-line and d-line took some insta-roids………we’re fked
    **********************************************

    Well well a win is a win. Philly players played awful and couldnt catch a cold at all but still you have to perform regardless. The Raiders wanted to win more than Philly and played with passion.

    Stanford Routt played one helluva game against some big time playmaking WR. Hope that boosts his confidence because we are gonna need him to continue this sort of play.

    Gary Russell played well today and made some crucial plays to pull out the victory.

    Wow as you can see Friday morning I was highly doubting we wouldnt run that lame ass defense. Excuse the F outta me. The Raiders finally used that team speed and frustrated the Eagle offense all game long. It was very exciting to see that and let’s pray it continues. The schemes today were different and Andy Reid could never adjust.

    Russell played better…a little bit and I still think the guy is garbage. He missed Zach Miller time and time again.

    Big ups to the O-line who received much criticism. Russell had time and there were some running lanes for the backs.

    I will never be a Farglass fan but the guy played with some heart today and made some plays. A real man gives credit where credit is due and Farglass played his best game as a Raider today.

    The team is 2-4 and now have to play a reeling Jets squad who have a rookie at QB and will be missing their mammoth of a Nose Tackle Kris Jenkins. Feel good tonight because winning feels excellent but the team cannot be patting themselves on the back too much because NY has a good defense and has a tough nosed coach who wants to end this losing streak.
    ******************************************

    BHP are you this stupid? Come on I thought you were more alert than this. Did you miss what I said an hour before?

    You are losing it man. Being an full-time Al Davis lackey demands too much for you to keep your sanity.

  33. Mistabrown Says:

    Well priest hasnt left the blog since yesterday! Apparently he thinks Oakland won the SB. If we lose next week we wont see him or his left tit Oakglen for 3 days after.

    # Dakota Says:
    October 19th, 2009 at 4:44 pm

    Ladies,

    You go ahead and exhale for a while, bask in the glow of the victory, lol….time for me to go home.

    But remember, Cable is still not a good NFL HC, Fargas still can’t score, DHB still can’t catch, Al is still Al. Yesterday’s victory was nice, but it only changes whether we finish 4-12, 5-11 or 6-10. If you take some satisfaction from that, well, I guess that is your choice, lol.

  34. Silver-n-Smac Says:

    Hey fellas –

    1. How long has Jerry been doing this blog?

    2. Would everyone be in agreement that Steve Corkran is BY FAR the most objective/fair media member in covering the Raiders?

  35. Silver-n-Smac Says:

    What’s your choice Dakota?

    To drown yourself in your never-ending misery?

  36. Mistabrown Says:

    Dont think this was an accident. Nnamdi put this out there to shine a light on what AL is doing behind the scenes. If Marshall keeps his foot on the pedal we could clean NY’s clock next week!

    “When Cable was asked what Asomugha was talking about, he said, with a rather pained expression, “I don’t know, maybe it’s one of the players. I have no idea. Will we blitz? To me, you blitz based on (a) if you can get there, if you can execute it. We did a great job of that yesterday. I think so long as we can do it, why not? Why not?”

  37. Raider O Says:

    I don’t understand why everyone is upset with Dakota. We won yesterday, but we are still 2-4, and we are not playing well on both sides.
    It’s nice to enjoy the win, but we can’t ignore all the issues just because we won 1 game. IMHO

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  39. Silver-n-Smac Says:

    And to answer your question. . .

    Yes Dakota:

    I personally choose to enjoy a hard-on over a great Raider victory.

    And how long it’ll last is strictly up to my Raiders.

  40. Raider O Says:

    We still can’t pass, run, and our run D allows more than 4 YPC on a good day like yesterday.

  41. M Lonetree Says:

    Yes RaiderDell, I suppose things are well. Difficult to tell. It is life after all.
    Thought I’d bought the farm on one of my latest treks in the Southwest. Miles from nowhere, water nearly out, cramps settling in, took me quite a while to ascertain the route through.

    Very nice to hear the Silver and Black figuring their way through the wilderness of constant negativity toward the win yesterday.

  42. Silver-n-Smac Says:

    MistaClown:

    I respect what Priest has to say.

    It’s fools like you who biotch like little monkeys, poossies, you name it. . . .all the time, that I was referring to.

    And why do you bring race into everything? A little paranoid are we?

  43. 408RAIDER Says:

    Dischargers getting in the donkeys grillz durring warmups.. hahahahaha I hope they kill each other

  44. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    Is it just me, or is IBA’s server more out of whack today. Anybody else having problems re-freshing the page?

    JON BECKER– GET THIS FIXED!!!!

  45. miketyson Says:

    WHATS UP RAIDA NATION! IM NEW TO THIS SITE/BLOG BUT IMA BE AROUND NOW….GLAD TO hear Chaz is back…hopefully he will wake up that wr corp…JUST FINISHED WATCHING NFL ACCESS AND THEY SAID NOTHING ABOUT THE RAIDERS UPSET WIN…I HATE WARREN SAPP…HOPE HE CHOKES ON A FRIED CHICKEN BONE NEXT TIME HE OPENS HIS MOUTH

  46. TBuckey Says:

    I think that the pigeon was a great pick-up for us and he showed it yesterday.

    DID YOU GUYS SEE THAT PLAY HE MADE ON SPECIAL TEAMS?!?!?! THAT PIGEON IS A BEAST!!!!!

  47. miketyson Says:

    Raider O Says:
    October 19th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
    We still can’t pass, run, and our run D allows more than 4 YPC on a good day like yesterday.
    —————————————————
    Just enjoy the win!!! Damn!!! The Raiders can go into the BYE week on a 3win streak and 4-4 .500….BTW…NYJ KRIS JENKINS OUT FOR SEASON WITH BUSTED ACL…

  48. Mistabrown Says:

    No, maybe AL needs to leave the DC alone so we can dominate on Sundays. Wouldn’t that be NICE! With JaMarshmallow @ Qb we NEED all the defense we can get!

    # Silver-n-Smac Says:
    October 19th, 2009 at 4:55 pm

    # KoolKell Says:
    October 19th, 2009 at 4:45 pm

    In the locker room after the game, cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha relayed that coordinator John Marshall said he’d “probably get yelled at” for all the extra pressure, a clear inference to Al Davis and his fondness for natural four-man pressure backed by man-to-man defense.
    ===========================
    Maybe we need leadership from the Coaches, maybe the Coaches need to grow a backbone.

    **********************************

    Maybe the players need to just shut up and play football and not give the media more over-blown stories to write about in regards to this team.

  49. vegas raider Says:

    Who would have thought that Fargas was just the spark the offense needed,lol? Not many points but lots of ball control and fewer 3 and outs.

    The best moment of the game was at the end when I saw Jamarcus in the huddle (right before we took the final knee) talking animatedly to the rest of the huddle, with everyone listening to his every word, with Jamarcus getting a few azz-slaps from his O-line.

    Of course that was after Jamarcus took the snap on one knee play with 8 seconds still left on the playclock, with Cable looking like he might punch him and half the side-line yelling with one finger up (to say wait until one second than snap).

  50. Raider O Says:

    Have a great evening Gents, and later Nation.

  51. Brien the General 510 Says:

    Damn that Eagles game! Team should have blown them out and Philly played awful. We won and luck is a part of the NFL. Now its time to create a real win streak.

    The excuses have to leave and even the old man Al admitted that recently. Russell still hasnt shown anyone why he is a number one pick.

    The jets game is as good as any time to show us doubters. They have a good defense and will bring pressure from all angles.

    Kris Jenkins is gone and Samson Satele better come to play so we can control the time of possession.

  52. vegas raider Says:

    I think Donovan was a little punch-drunk after that big hit Howard put on him early in the game.

    He rarely looked to scramble, was horribly inaccurate, seemed very aloof and out of the game, and even lost track of how many timeouts the team had at one point. The QB must go down and go down hard!!!!!!!

  53. Raider Dell Says:

    M

    I’m glad your fine, even the non athletes cramp up at the wrong times.

    Stay safe, maybe you should carry a pigeon with you for luck.

  54. KoolKell Says:

    Dumbass BlackHolePriestMonkey comes out of his hole for the first time in 3 weeks to lecture us about Football.

    Hi ya doin today Monkey?

  55. Raider-405 Says:

    HEY JERRY………….

    “Johnson’s mentor is Deion Sanders, the future Hall of Fame cornerback whose coverage skills were unmatched and his hitting skills limited to his time with the Atlanta Braves, San Francisco Giants and Cincinnati Reds.”

    Great line!
    That is why you a professional!

    **
    Scanning some of these comments, I wish the MOD would come do some housekeeping…. WOW

  56. vegas raider Says:

    We got to do something about our return units. JLH has thrown in the towel it seems, he never goes up the field, looks for the sidelines, shies away from contact, fumbles too much and is at the bottom of the league in return avg.

    Our KO return is awful. Holland never seems to go full-speed and the blocking is very bad. Nick Miller might help some.

  57. Raider Dell Says:

    Brien

    Peace my friend. Hope all is well.

  58. Brien the General 510 Says:

    # Raider Dell Says:
    October 19th, 2009 at 5:25 pm

    Brien

    Peace my friend. Hope all is well.
    *********************************

    It is my friend. Life goes on whether they win or lose but I cant lie on our flaws. Yesterday people were into the team and went hard in the stands. I’ve been to blackouts but not like this. The folks just wouldnt let it go, just like me cant let it go. They die trying to see this team get back. Those players had an attitude in warmups and on the sidelines during the game. I was amazed and for some idiot lik BHP to call me out is ridiculous. I’ll be there again.

  59. Brien the General 510 Says:

    # vegas raider Says:
    October 19th, 2009 at 5:23 pm

    We got to do something about our return units. JLH has thrown in the towel it seems, he never goes up the field, looks for the sidelines, shies away from contact, fumbles too much and is at the bottom of the league in return avg.

    Our KO return is awful. Holland never seems to go full-speed and the blocking is very bad. Nick Miller might help some.
    **********************

    Patience my friend JLH is just fine and will get some big returns this season. I have no doubt in my mind of this. He needs to be used in the offense.

    As for the KR, I really have no answer but wait agreeing with you on Miller

  60. KoolKell Says:

    B-Boy Brien The……… calls me an Uncle Tom, and that other idiot, BS Detector, calls me a Racist.

    Which is it B-Boy?

    Never mind.

  61. Crude Earl Says:

    WOW …AL DAVIS …sure did a Hell of a job coaching from his suite yesterday…..80 years old and he’s still got it….Just Win Baby….Great Job Al …Keep it up!!!

  62. Brien the General 510 Says:

    # KoolKell Says:
    October 19th, 2009 at 5:29 pm

    B-Boy Brien The……… calls me an Uncle Tom, and that other idiot, BS Detector, calls me a Racist.

    Which is it B-Boy?

    Never mind.
    ****************************************

    LOL

  63. Mistabrown Says:

    WOW……………LMAO!!!!

    hahaha

    # KoolKell Says:
    October 19th, 2009 at 5:19 pm

    Dumbass BlackHolePriestMonkey comes out of his hole for the first time in 3 weeks to lecture us about Football.

    Hi ya doin today Monkey?

  64. Mistabrown Says:

    I guess Rush Limbaugh was right Donovan McNabb is overrated.

    :D

  65. Mistabrown Says:

    Vegas whats the over/under on Gruden making a fool of Jaws tonight ?

    Gruden punks Jaws almost as much as I thump Oakglen & Priest.

  66. Thec07 Says:

    Quote From cable

    “To be fair, the Eagles, who are quick to abandon the run and who were playing with a makeshift offensive line, were a perfect team to blitz. To send defenders at the rate the Raiders did against Philadelphia against teams which can run well and with a better line would be problematic”

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    So the chargers were in the same predicment game 1 and yet we did not prssure rivers by sending the whole shop at him??????

    What up cable???

  67. The RaiderCast | Schilens to rescue of unproductive WR corps Says:

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  68. Mistabrown Says:

    Thec, here is your answer for #76

    ““When Cable was asked what Asomugha was talking about, he said, with a rather pained expression, “I don’t know, maybe it’s one of the players. I have no idea. Will we blitz? To me, you blitz based on (a) if you can get there, if you can execute it. We did a great job of that yesterday. I think so long as we can do it, why not? Why not?”

  69. vegas raider Says:

    Brien, I know you like JLH, but what is up with him? He is running scared out there. It is beyond me why they don’t use him more in offense, but that is no reason for his punt-returns to fall off the map.

    If Nick Miller comes back and looks good, he should get some run at PR as well.

    And BTW, Fargas is our best back, except it and move on. I’m just saying.

  70. Brien the General 510 Says:

    Cable is as smart as BHP and KK combined

  71. Mistabrown Says:

    #77

  72. Crude Earl Says:

    Everything the Raiders do is AL DAVIS’ fault…so yesterday win must be his fault too…Give the man credit!

  73. Brien the General 510 Says:

    Crude………everything that happens isnt his fault but failure of the organization is his fault because he is the head. If he humbles himself the Raiders will be more competitive.

  74. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    The Raiders don’t need three running backs.

    Fargas is clearly a Cable guy and is now the starter or at least number 2.

    Bush can catch the ball and can take the punishment.

    DMAC? May want to trade him. He will never factor into this offense

  75. 1981raider Says:

    everyone knows the raiders when they feel good about themselves and think their goin to win they lose.So how do you think they can win against the jets?They need a scrimmage speech or something to make them feel bad or feel like a real underdog and they have to think they don’t have a chance against the jets.Go raiders.They surprise you when you least expect.

  76. KoolKell Says:

    Crude Earl Says:
    October 19th, 2009 at 5:40 pm

    Everything the Raiders do is AL DAVIS’ fault…so yesterday win must be his fault too…Give the man credit!
    ============================
    Crude Earl, can you read?

    In the locker room after the game, cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha relayed that coordinator John Marshall said he’d “probably get yelled at” for all the extra pressure, a clear inference to Al Davis and his fondness for natural four-man pressure backed by man-to-man defense.

  77. priesttj Says:

    Shutup Sista!! can’t you see I’m talking?

  78. Mistabrown Says:

    Brien inform priest yesterday was not the SB he can go to bed now..

  79. vegas raider Says:

    SnB,

    When you finally sack it in and fold up (you are one of the more realistic optimists on here) the team comes back to pull you back in.

    Still a bunch of rank quitters?

  80. Brien the General 510 Says:

    # vegas raider Says:
    October 19th, 2009 at 5:38 pm

    Brien, I know you like JLH, but what is up with him? He is running scared out there. It is beyond me why they don’t use him more in offense, but that is no reason for his punt-returns to fall off the map.

    If Nick Miller comes back and looks good, he should get some run at PR as well.

    And BTW, Fargas is our best back, except it and move on. I’m just saying.
    *********************************

    JLH looks indecisive I agree but he started slow last year. PR is for JLH. Miller will be thr KR.

    Farglass aint the Raiders best back. It amazing he is the first RB this season to get over 20 carries aint it? THe o-line played awesome and Gary Russell already has been our best FB. That all happened yesterday for the backs for the first time this season.

    Dmac and Bush are better than the guy, sorry. He did well yesterday I admit but many times he was getting stopped and left yards on the field. He still averaged under 4 yards a carry and he got many chances.

    Gallery is our best option at LG gut he is out for who knows how long. Satele is our best center even with his flaws. Getting Green out ofthe lineup is the best thing ever. The oline needs to continuing the process of playing together and you will see how much more our offensive will be explosive withthe younger guys running the rock

  81. vegas raider Says:

    I tell no lies JHill.

    The best part was Warren yelling with his one finger up, yet still couldn’t hold back a huge grin, like “Damn kid…..”

  82. Brien the General 510 Says:

    Jhill, judging by Al’s USA today article and Cable’s actions the excuse phase for homeboy is over. We need wins and wins now is the message. This is all I’ve been saying. No more passes for this guy. If he doesnt play decent we cant win it is as simple as that

  83. priesttj Says:

    Brien, listen if you’re objective you’d see that DMC was leaving entire football fields out there. It’s easy to say he’s better he has to show it………period

    Tha’sall I hear is how bad Fargas is and then I see the guy out perform these two young phenoms at some point they need to play well enough to make Fargas a non-issue, at this point they haven’t…………period

  84. priesttj Says:

    Brien, didn’t look for your post to have to ignore it. The only idiot is you acting like a little child who’s feelings got hurt. If you posted early so be it>

    I said what I said and you’re still in here whinning about how good DMC is, don’t you know people are whispering ‘BUST’ after his name?

    Let him prove what he is first he’s had plenty of time.

  85. vegas raider Says:

    Brien,

    D-Mac and Bush may have shinier “moments”, but you will never, and I mean never, see Fargas lay as big of a stinkjob as Darren did against Denver.

    You know what you get from Fargas, tough runs, a physicality that resonates with teammates, great pass-blocking and better from 20-20, than within the red zone. You just don’t know what you are going to get with Bush and McFadden except a lot of injuries.

  86. Brien the General 510 Says:

    Yesterday’s win was far from a SB but it was the best win possible that team could have. WE had chances to put the game away but failed due to Russell’s inaccurate passes. Still it was crucial for the team to win for the first time at home.

  87. Mistabrown Says:

    Priest have you slept a wink since your boy Black Moses lit up the score board for 13 unanswered points ?

  88. vegas raider Says:

    Darren and Bush each had a chance to prove they are a better RB than Fargas.

    Fargas had his chance yesterday, and the debate is now over.

    How many chances does Darren and Bush get to stay healthy and come close to dominating a game?

  89. Brien the General 510 Says:

    Totally disagree BHP. Seen how the team committed to the run finally? Farglass can take us nowhere week in and week out. Give the ball 30 times minimum to Dmac and Bush and we give our offense a better chance to win games. WE cant continue to win with one TD a game.

  90. Mistabrown Says:

    I think Fargas has ZERO Td’s but he did score 2 points……for the OTHER team…….period

  91. Brien the General 510 Says:

    # vegas raider Says:
    October 19th, 2009 at 6:03 pm

    Darren and Bush each had a chance to prove they are a better RB than Fargas.

    Fargas had his chance yesterday, and the debate is now over.

    How many chances does Darren and Bush get to stay healthy and come close to dominating a game?
    ********************************

    Dmac and Bush have found the endzone has Farglass? If not for two whistles blowing way early he has two fumbles.

    It is nice how people ignore the fact the guy if the first back to get 20 plus carries this season. Dmac and Bush havent had the opportunity to shine. Even people on this blog admitted to us not committing to the run. Not yet have we really committed to the run with DMAC and Bush

    You people get all excited over 87 yards on 23 carries at under 4 yards a pop lol with no TDs. What would Farglass numbers be if not that the run on the last play of the first half?

    I love the heart but the talent lacks man………severely

  92. jhill Says:

    Ahhhh, this is funny!

    The difference on offense yesterday was plain as day. Russell the Muscle at FB making plays instead of Lawton dropping the ball.

    Russell the Muscle making good physical blocks and opening up the running game a little.

    Russell was still running for his life, and missing wide open throws.

    The rookie WRs were still dropping passes.

    Take away those meaningless yards by Fargas right before the half, and the Pears, Satele, Morris, and Carlisle still could do anything for the running game.

    But gawd dammit props to Cable for sticking with it and chewing the clock instead of thorwing bombs down the field.

    And props to Marshall for bringing the pressure and mixing it up at the risk of “getting yelled at”.

    Like I’ve been saying, the defensive unit and the running game is what should be carrying this team. Not the illusion of what a #1 QB should be. The talent is on the defense and in the backfield, not at QB and WR!

  93. Brien the General 510 Says:

    # Mistabrown Says:
    October 19th, 2009 at 6:10 pm

    I think Fargas has ZERO Td’s but he did score 2 points……for the OTHER team…….period
    **************************

    Man mista, people just miss it every game. Cable didnt stick with the run throughout the first five games and we are 1-4. Yesterday he runs over 20 times with a less talented back and we win. Imagine if the guys with more talent get that chance. The only times we seen the youngins get over 20 touches was KC and TB. Coincidence the run game dominates in those?

  94. KoolKell Says:

    Fargass is the only RB who get’s consistent carries. Cable hasn’t let Bush or McFadden get more that 10 carries a game.

    They waited till week 6 to commit to the run, ran Fargass 23 times, and they Won.

  95. jhill Says:

    I hope you are right about Satele B!

    You know how excited I was to get that guy, and then how disappointed I was since the 49r game this preseason.

    If Satele can get his shyt together and actually put a body on someone like a big bad arse Somoan muthafugga is supposed to, then we might actually have something when Gallery gets back.

    I have to disagree with you on Cornbread though. Green is better than Pears. And that is no endorsement for Green by any means! Pears SUCKS! Get Barnes in there already, or put Green back in there.

  96. KoolKell Says:

    Yeah, they’ve been soooooooo busy trying to highlight Bey, justifying Davis’ 4.23 draft pick, while ignoring their strong suit. For what?

  97. Brien the General 510 Says:

    # jhill Says:
    October 19th, 2009 at 6:17 pm

    Ahhhh, this is funny!

    The difference on offense yesterday was plain as day. Russell the Muscle at FB making plays instead of Lawton dropping the ball.

    Russell the Muscle making good physical blocks and opening up the running game a little.

    Russell was still running for his life, and missing wide open throws.

    The rookie WRs were still dropping passes.

    Take away those meaningless yards by Fargas right before the half, and the Pears, Satele, Morris, and Carlisle still could do anything for the running game.

    But gawd dammit props to Cable for sticking with it and chewing the clock instead of thorwing bombs down the field.

    And props to Marshall for bringing the pressure and mixing it up at the risk of “getting yelled at”.

    Like I’ve been saying, the defensive unit and the running game is what should be carrying this team. Not the illusion of what a #1 QB should be. The talent is on the defense and in the backfield, not at QB and WR!
    *****************************

    Cant really disagree with this accept that Satele doesnt look as bad as he did in the preseason and is better sutied to be our center than Chris Morris. The offense should just ride with him when Gallery comes back.

  98. Brien the General 510 Says:

    # KoolKell Says:
    October 19th, 2009 at 6:19 pm

    Fargass is the only RB who get’s consistent carries. Cable hasn’t let Bush or McFadden get more that 10 carries a game.

    They waited till week 6 to commit to the run, ran Fargass 23 times, and they Won.
    ****************************

    Hate to admit it old fart but you are right. Al is telling Cable to use Russell to DHB.

  99. jhill Says:

    I like the way McFadden runs. I hate the way he fumbles! I know that can be corrected.

    I have to say I just wish that Bush ran harder instead of doing all that dancing around. Get that 240 lbs moving down hill and stop trying to run like a 200 yd back dammit!

    With that said, I damn sure would like to see one of them get 20 carries a game. In McFadden’s case, I’d change that up to 20 touches a game.

  100. jhill Says:

    *200 lb back

  101. priesttj Says:

    Brien, you must be kidding me Fargas has rushed as much as 1,000 yards twice. Now untill DMC lines up and runs the ball 25+ times a game and stays healthy, HE HASN”T DONE IT…………….period

    The Riaders don’t have him on the bench he’s hurt again. That’snot their fault. Everytime the want to lean on these kids the get hurt. Thy have anointed DMC the starter he lasted 2 freakin weeks. Then they gave the job to Bush and he got dinged, not their fault. They have to roll with who’s there. And Fargas delivered. Simple as that.

  102. Mistabrown Says:

    Notice not a peep out of priest piehole about Marshall telling Nnamdi he will get yelled at for calling blitz’s.

    Priest this is why you are a fraud and NOT to be taken seriously.

    Wheres your criticism for AL you weasel ?

  103. Mistabrown Says:

    AL doesnt meddle with the defense does he priest?

    Marshall will have to answer to AL for calling blitz’s but thats ok right priest ?

  104. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    vegas raider Says:
    October 19th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
    SnB,

    When you finally sack it in and fold up (you are one of the more realistic optimists on here) the team comes back to pull you back in.

    Still a bunch of rank quitters?
    =======================================================
    No. They came back yesterday and fought for 4 QTRs. Didn’t let a turnover, bad call or close score get them down.

    That’s the effort I expect to see every week regardless of the score.

    Are they rank quitter? Against the Giants they quit. I was at the game and saw it all. Yesterday they were fighters playing with emotion and energy and focus.

    Good for them and good for the Raider Nation!

  105. priesttj Says:

    Brien they have tried to lean on DMC he wont let them. If he were healthy and productive do you really thy wouldn’t use him? The kid is making 4 mill a year of course they want to use him. He’s been hurt ad wen he has been healthy he hasn’t shown the ability to pound the rock.

  106. jhill Says:

    You know,

    I have to say I think Priest is going to end up having the last laugh with you folks. Halfway point of the season is after the bye week.

    After the bye week we should have Gallery back, Chaz fully healthy, DMac back, and Nick Miller.

    If you are a realist and can see what getting a player like Russell the Muscle in the lineup instead of the dump truck Lawton, then you HAVE to know that Chaz is going to mean 4 or 5 more cathes a game. Murphy and Miller will be running patterns from the slot as well as DMac. Gallery back on the line? Barnes instead of Pears?

    I agree that this team could very well be a 20-24 pt team after the bye. Even with JRuss missing 3 or 4 balls BADLY and throwing a pick or 2. If the kid plays like “a #1 overall pick” at any point, then we could be a team that puts up 24-30 pts each game.

    Of course, that is if Al allows the defense to keep attacking and giving the ball back to the offense, lol!

  107. Brien the General 510 Says:

    # jhill Says:
    October 19th, 2009 at 6:22 pm

    I hope you are right about Satele B!

    You know how excited I was to get that guy, and then how disappointed I was since the 49r game this preseason.

    If Satele can get his shyt together and actually put a body on someone like a big bad arse Somoan muthafugga is supposed to, then we might actually have something when Gallery gets back.

    I have to disagree with you on Cornbread though. Green is better than Pears. And that is no endorsement for Green by any means! Pears SUCKS! Get Barnes in there already, or put Green back in there.
    *******************************

    Satele is our best bet Jhill. He has the most skill out of the centers that have been brought it. With Jenkins out this week I expect him to take it to higher heights or I’m going bad on him too.

    Pears does stink but Green is worse because his penaltes continue to destroy the team. Cable wont play Barnes until after the bye I believe. Hard headed coach

  108. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    The bottom line is the Raiders don’t need 3 running backs.

    Fargas is a starter or 2nd string. Cable just fawned over his performance.

    So its either Bush or McFadden…but not both. I would trade McFadden because the Raiders don’t know how to use him.

    The Raiders are a run between the tackles type of team…or at least the way Cable calls the game…DMAC rarely if ever lines up at receiver so might as well trade him.

    Like Brien said, Cable waited until week 6 to run the ball and he gave it to his boy Fargas.

  109. jhill Says:

    I think the only reason Fargas got 20 plus carries is because Bush got hurt.

    Cable stuck with the running game in general for the first time since the Monday game. I think if Bush doesn’t get hurt, the carries end up being split in half like he did with Bush and DMac week 1.

    Just sayin’

  110. priesttj Says:

    SnB, I’m with you 1,000% on this. This team is too talented to have taken the beatings they’ve endured. In these games they’re staring to show that they get it. Seymour and Ellis are having a very positive affect on them I was listening to Kirk yesterday on the post game show and for the first time he was talking about what they are DOING and not what they NEED TO DO.

  111. priesttj Says:

    SnB, he gae it to him because he can trust him……..I know that concept doesn’t sit well with you guy’s but ALL coaches are like that. He’s comfortable with him in there. Until Bush and DMC have that same affect on himhe will keep doing it.

    Wha you guy’s really don’t ge is that I’m not saying agree with that my favorite HB is Bush but he hasn’t taken the riegns and DONE it yet. He had his chance yesterday and got dinged. I was very disappointed, but it is what it is.

  112. KoolKell Says:

    Of course, that is if Al allows the defense to keep attacking and giving the ball back to the offense, lol!
    ======================
    Alway’s a big IF, baby!

    Keep the sideshows to a minimum, dog houses, holy wars etc…..

  113. Brien the General 510 Says:

    # priesttj Says:
    October 19th, 2009 at 6:41 pm

    Brien they have tried to lean on DMC he wont let them. If he were healthy and productive do you really thy wouldn’t use him? The kid is making 4 mill a year of course they want to use him. He’s been hurt ad wen he has been healthy he hasn’t shown the ability to pound the rock.
    *************************

    Go game by game and see the amount of carries Dmac has got. I dont know how you arent seeing this. You are a clown and you know the team didnt commit to the run at all the first five games. Yesterday they stuck with it. Let’s see them do that when Dmac comes back with Bush splitting the load.

  114. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    The Raiders changed the playbook last game.

    The defense was all about getting pressure and mixing in blitzes and zones. Not the vanilla they’ve played before. The QB and O-Line were confused and the timing was thrown off. I really and truly hope Davis saw the benefit of mixing it up. Still a base 4-3 man2man…but allow your coaches to do their job.

    Thomas Howard gave us a glimpse of what kind of dominant player he can be. Let the man be around the line…chasing down those screens and pressuring the QB on an occassional blitz. Its amazing what happens when the linebackers are used more than just an extra safety

    Offensively the Raiders did a lot more short and medium stuff. Russell 2 Russell needs to continue…even got a throw to Fargas…hit Miller a few times. That’s Raider football. Not sitting back trying to hit 9-routes all day. Of course, even Cable knew that the Philly blitz wouldn’t allow for those 9-routes. Hopefully the game plan stays with the blitz happy Jets.

  115. Brien the General 510 Says:

    # jhill Says:
    October 19th, 2009 at 6:46 pm

    You know,

    I have to say I think Priest is going to end up having the last laugh with you folks. Halfway point of the season is after the bye week.

    After the bye week we should have Gallery back, Chaz fully healthy, DMac back, and Nick Miller.

    If you are a realist and can see what getting a player like Russell the Muscle in the lineup instead of the dump truck Lawton, then you HAVE to know that Chaz is going to mean 4 or 5 more cathes a game. Murphy and Miller will be running patterns from the slot as well as DMac. Gallery back on the line? Barnes instead of Pears?

    I agree that this team could very well be a 20-24 pt team after the bye. Even with JRuss missing 3 or 4 balls BADLY and throwing a pick or 2. If the kid plays like “a #1 overall pick” at any point, then we could be a team that puts up 24-30 pts each game.

    Of course, that is if Al allows the defense to keep attacking and giving the ball back to the offense, lol!
    *******************************************

    What laugh will he have? Russell should be rapidly approaching that he isnt a bust. I told you guys I was going to be extremely hard on this summer and I’m not changing.

    You guys know I endorsed Chaz long ago so I like him a lot. But be serious about working him back into the lineup will be a work in progress. The o-line will still have some issues for the time being.

    Agree with the defense not being predictable anymore. It is about wins not egos.

  116. priesttj Says:

    Brien, It’snot me that’s not getting it son it’s DMC. You can’t look at a HB like that at all. You should know that. It has to be in a game over a period of time 20+ a game 6 weeks in a row and what does he look like at tha point. Not some scattered carries here and there. That’s not at all how you judge a feature HB.

    That’s how you judge a scatback and that my friend is what DMC is an oversized scatback.

  117. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    priesttj Says:
    October 19th, 2009 at 6:51 pm
    SnB, I’m with you 1,000% on this. This team is too talented to have taken the beatings they’ve endured. In these games they’re staring to show that they get it. Seymour and Ellis are having a very positive affect on them I was listening to Kirk yesterday on the post game show and for the first time he was talking about what they are DOING and not what they NEED TO DO.
    =======================================================
    True, team is too talented to get beat badly. But occassionaly a team lays an egg and gets beat badly. It was not the score that had me upset against the Giants. It was the way they played that game. I am over that game…it is what it is.

    THe Raiders can compete with anyone when the team is focused and the coaches put together a game plan that minimizes our weaknesses and maximizes our strenghts to exploit the opponent.

    The Raiders don’t have to blow up the playbook. But the lesson learned yesterday is you have to mix it up. If they just went with that 4 rush vanilla look…McNabb would have ripped them apart deep and short….But because they got some hats on him…his timing was off..his plays were hurried and his O-Line was just confused.

    Keep it up.

    The offense actually played fairly well. Didn’t execute on a couple of plays…otherwise they could have blown that game wide open. Schilens back in the fold will help big time.

  118. Brien the General 510 Says:

    # SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
    October 19th, 2009 at 6:55 pm

    The Raiders changed the playbook last game.

    The defense was all about getting pressure and mixing in blitzes and zones. Not the vanilla they’ve played before. The QB and O-Line were confused and the timing was thrown off. I really and truly hope Davis saw the benefit of mixing it up. Still a base 4-3 man2man…but allow your coaches to do their job.

    Thomas Howard gave us a glimpse of what kind of dominant player he can be. Let the man be around the line…chasing down those screens and pressuring the QB on an occassional blitz. Its amazing what happens when the linebackers are used more than just an extra safety

    Offensively the Raiders did a lot more short and medium stuff. Russell 2 Russell needs to continue…even got a throw to Fargas…hit Miller a few times. That’s Raider football. Not sitting back trying to hit 9-routes all day. Of course, even Cable knew that the Philly blitz wouldn’t allow for those 9-routes. Hopefully the game plan stays with the blitz happy Jets.
    **************************

    Right on SnB. WE have a speed based defense with very good coverage, it is only logical to blitz. No excuse for failing to repeat against New York Jets

  119. Brien the General 510 Says:

    # priesttj Says:
    October 19th, 2009 at 7:02 pm

    Brien, It’snot me that’s not getting it son it’s DMC. You can’t look at a HB like that at all. You should know that. It has to be in a game over a period of time 20+ a game 6 weeks in a row and what does he look like at tha point. Not some scattered carries here and there. That’s not at all how you judge a feature HB.

    That’s how you judge a scatback and that my friend is what DMC is an oversized scatback.
    ****************************

    Haha you can give it to Farglass 20 plus times for 6 weeks and win games?

    In the four games Dmac was involved in running the ball wasn’t a priority. We tried to prove Russell to DHB was the greatest thing since sliced bread. You have admitted the play calling has been terrible!

    Disagree with you on the scatback thing.

  120. KoolKell Says:

    So its either Bush or McFadden…but not both. I would trade McFadden because the Raiders don’t know how to use him.
    =========================
    There doesn’t seem to be a whole lot of institutional football knowledge in that building. It’s like they’re stunted.

    Instead of using the talent you have, they just keep stuffing square pegs into round holes. According to Al Davis’ rigid old ways.

  121. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    Sprolls is kick butt

  122. raiderkoolaid Says:

    Does anyone know if the Raiders/Eagles game will be on NFL replay and if so when? I tried checking the listing and they don’t say which game they are showing.

  123. jhill Says:

    Wasn’t really talking about you B.

    I know you and your boy are going through it over the whole Nigrah thing a few weeks back, lol!

    I know you guys are both die hard Raider men, so in the end, you both agree and want the same thing.

    It’s the other clowns who don’t know shyt about the game or the team, but just come in here spouting off ESPN BS trying to get a laugh. They know who they are.

  124. raiderkoolaid Says:

    I’ll try that. Thanks

  125. Brien the General 510 Says:

    The o-line still got holes at LG and RT for this game. Satele’s play I’m hoping translates to this Jet game.

  126. priesttj Says:

    Fargas has proven what he can do, DMC hasn’t.

    Still waitin’!

  127. Brien the General 510 Says:

    I want SD to win tonight and against KC next week. I want them feeling in the high when we come into town. We owe them punks

  128. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    Yes Brien, just not listed yet, btw, Dischargers at the half, up by 3

  129. Brien the General 510 Says:

    Cant you watchthe game again on nfl.com?

  130. Brien the General 510 Says:

    # KoolKell Says:
    October 19th, 2009 at 7:04 pm

    So its either Bush or McFadden…but not both. I would trade McFadden because the Raiders don’t know how to use him.
    =========================
    There doesn’t seem to be a whole lot of institutional football knowledge in that building. It’s like they’re stunted.

    Instead of using the talent you have, they just keep stuffing square pegs into round holes. According to Al Davis’ rigid old ways.
    *********************************

    Please there is football knowledge in that building. There is a struggle to go over a certain guy’s head.

  131. Brien the General 510 Says:

    # priesttj Says:
    October 19th, 2009 at 7:13 pm

    Fargas has proven what he can do, DMC hasn’t.

    Still waitin’!
    *************************

    What has Farglass proved?

  132. alisgod Says:

    Silver-n-Smac Says:
    October 19th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
    Hey fellas –

    1. How long has Jerry been doing this blog?

    2. Would everyone be in agreement that Steve Corkran is BY FAR the most objective/fair media member in covering the Raiders?
    ————

    funny you wrote that…I emailed Corkran earlier today on the exact issue and here is what he emailed back…

    “Thanks for the props and kind words. I appreciate that. I do try to be fair and write without bias, giving the reader the pertinent information and letting them make a determination on how to feel or what to make of the facts. It doesn’t matter how the Raiders won, who the Eagles had beaten before Sunday, it still counts as an impressive victory for the Raiders. Now, let’s see if they can build upon the momentum. Take care and have a great week.”

    Bif diff between Corkran vs David White/Cohn/Dickey/Kawakami/Mcbigmac

  133. alisgod Says:

    Vegas,

    you must mean the ovverated SANCHIZE

  134. 860Todd Christensen Says:

    Dischargers 20 Donkies 17 @ half

  135. vegas raider Says:

    I’m not sure if it because Fargas is a better RB, or the line likes blocking more behind him, but the running game works a little more effectively with him in there. These are just the facts. Take out the 3 great halfs Darren and Bush have COMBINED, and they just don’t get it done. They fumble more than Fargas (although a little scared with the refs bailing him out the last week, but hey he got the “vet” call) and they get hurt more than him. Bush had his chance yesterday and got dinged by “getting hit in the back of his head”, whatever that means. Darren had his chance against Denver, and turned one of the worst games ever by a Raider RB.

    The Eagles just didn’t want to put in the fight it was going to take to push back the Raiders blitz-heavy D (when will I ever get to say that again) and Justin Fargas. The Eagles were stunned and lifeless all game long and never regained their footing after getting punched in the mouth. The D, Fargas and Murphy were really the only ones throwing punches.

    And boy I can’t wait to punch that little pretty boy SoCal homo Sanchez!!!!!!!

  136. Brien the General 510 Says:

    VR, how is Farglass a solution when you scored 13 points yesterday?

  137. Brien the General 510 Says:

    VR, our best offensive game was with Bush and DMAC running the ball vs SD. Dmac had big reception and game winning TD against KC. Proof enough

  138. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Alisgod,

    Sometimes a man has to stare a rock bottom before changing his ways. Looks like the Raiders were at that point. They looked nothing like that team that played in New York.

    This week’s game against the Jets is actually tougher. They have to put together some games.

    That defensive game plan better not change too much. Sanchez + pressure + different looks + Aso & Johnson should equal a win!

    Offense…keep the same playbook. Throw those short flats to Russell…hit the tight end and get Schilens involved….then hit Murphy or DHB over the top. The Jets blitz like hell too.

  139. doriangray Says:

    man.. :( fargas was fresh. so he ran hard, also . he has vision to hit the holes. dmac needs that. sadly u dont gain that its a born trait. i got it . dmac is a fast eddie george..

  140. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Fargas gave the Raiders what he always does. The guy runs hard and I give him respect for what he did.

    But Fargas is not the everydown back. Running backs also have to get those long-runs and also be able to score in the red zone.

    I still think Bush is the best guy. I wish someone would give Bush the ball 20+ times and see what happens.

  141. Brien the General 510 Says:

    # SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
    October 19th, 2009 at 7:35 pm

    Alisgod,

    Sometimes a man has to stare a rock bottom before changing his ways. Looks like the Raiders were at that point. They looked nothing like that team that played in New York.

    This week’s game against the Jets is actually tougher. They have to put together some games.

    That defensive game plan better not change too much. Sanchez + pressure + different looks + Aso & Johnson should equal a win!

    Offense…keep the same playbook. Throw those short flats to Russell…hit the tight end and get Schilens involved….then hit Murphy or DHB over the top. The Jets blitz like hell too.
    ***********************************

    SnB yesterday wont mean a damn thing if they cant win on Sunday.

  142. Dude Says:

    I knew I could count on you ladies to brighten my day. The humor on this board is just hilarious. Just waitin for the first playoff reference. Shouldnt be too long now that Alisgod is here.

  143. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Next week…the offense comes alive:

    Oakland 24
    Jets 10

    Please, please, please, please let John Marshall call his own plays and design the game plan. Please let Cable keep the throws short and the runs plentiful

  144. vegas raider Says:

    Brien,

    The KC game, please, the guy made two decent plays all game, with the game-winning TD coming on simply beating a LB to the corner. If he can’t do that, he needs to fold it up. BTW, what did he do the next week? And the week before, his fumble in the first-half was the beginning of the end.

    Bush gives me hope, but really not much to cling to. He moves and runs like a 10 year vet with a million miles on his tires, only he is like 26. Not a good sign for the future.

    We all know Fargas’ limitations, but so does he, his teammates and his coach, and they all work around it. Bush and Darren, what do you get week-to-week? Until they start being consistant, and consistantly fumbling and being hurt don’t count, you just can’t ride with that every week.

  145. Dude Says:

    SnB,

    Why do you think Bush is the best guy? What the hell has he EVER done for you to have that belief?

  146. Brien the General 510 Says:

    # SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
    October 19th, 2009 at 7:36 pm

    Fargas gave the Raiders what he always does. The guy runs hard and I give him respect for what he did.

    But Fargas is not the everydown back. Running backs also have to get those long-runs and also be able to score in the red zone.

    I still think Bush is the best guy. I wish someone would give Bush the ball 20+ times and see what happens.
    ***************************

    I wouldnt even mind Bush getting 20 carries but this talk as if Farglass is better than Dmac is ridiculous. How the Raiders gameplanned in the first half against SD is something to look at. They have bigger play ability and can catch out of the backfield better than Farglass………granted they get the ball.

  147. kidseven Says:

    Gary Russell is exactly the type of player the Raiders often miss out on. I imagine his measureables are nothing special, but he has good game speed, plays with heart and he can catch the damn ball.

  148. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Brien the General 510 Says:
    October 19th, 2009 at 7:38 pm

    SnB yesterday wont mean a damn thing if they cant win on Sunday.
    =============================================
    Yes. This Jets game is the toughest game yet because they can easily get lazy again. They gotta go out here like this is a playoff game.

  149. Brien the General 510 Says:

    # SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
    October 19th, 2009 at 7:38 pm

    Next week…the offense comes alive:

    Oakland 24
    Jets 10

    Please, please, please, please let John Marshall call his own plays and design the game plan. Please let Cable keep the throws short and the runs plentiful
    *************************************

    Wow it seems you are smoking some good sherm. 24 points is alot to ask with this o-line and inaccurate QB.

  150. Brien the General 510 Says:

    Frankly it may not even matter who gets the carries at RB. If Russell sucks we can get on a win streak and turn this season around

  151. Brien the General 510 Says:

    meant to say cant*

  152. vegas raider Says:

    The league has lifted the skirt on “D-Mac”. He is who is, a fast guy with good hands, soft-runner with more fumbles than broken tackles.

    RB’s don’t “develop” in the league. They are either ballers or not. It is easy to see that Darren isn’t one.

    And next time, when we decide to draft a RB in the top 5, let’s make sure he has been beaten up a little and can take the necessary beating in the NFL to be the man. “D-Mac” hurt his toes, freaked out, and has never been the same. I remember Peterson running around in college with seperated shoulders and sprained ankles, facing 9 in the box and still kicking azz. We need one of those guys, not the fast guy.

  153. djohnnyg Says:

    I have been blasting the Raiders mercilessly after the Giants game but my gosh, we as fans have a right to enjoy this one for a little while with some hope for the future. Lord knows we deserve it for crying out loud.

    Maybe Al will go along with this ridiculous “do what it takes to win” thing, and the Raiders start winning again. I don’t see how that is so far fetched when they just beat the Eagles and held them to without a TD.

    They have proven they can do it, so it’s not entirely out of line they can do it again?

  154. Dude Says:

    Yesterday was a nice win against a half way decent team. However it dznt change the fact that this is a bad team with a horrible offense and a subpar NFL coaching staff. Some of you are so far gone with your dillusions its sad.

  155. kidseven Says:

    Agree with Brien re: Dmac. He’s had trouble holding on to the ball, but he’s just a couple of good games away from everyone jumping back on his bandwagon. He may not ever be worth his draft spot, but he’s much more explosive than Fargas. I’m not knocking Fargas, he’s an asset, just saying Dmac’s skills warrant taking most of Fargas’ carries.

  156. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    I just read the article in last month’s Playboy magazine about the old Raiders. Great read. What a different time that was. There’s a great picture of a bunch of the guys in street clothes in front of the Bamboo room in Santa Rosa. Shell’, Villapiano, Hendricks, amongst others, are in it, all giving their 12 beer grins. And, it was daytime! Villapiano had the wildest stories. He room mated with the Tooz Tooz’s first couple of years. The team actually bought them the house so that they could keep Tooz out of trouble. To no avail. Tooz checked out once in an ambulance, when with KC? KC’s coach revived him by pounding his chest in the ambulance? Wow. He was on borrowed time, anyway, I guess. Too bad he didn’t call it quits sooner (the partying).

    They once told Joe Green before a game that Al had planned on trading for him, just to soften him up for that one game. The clock operator at the coliseum used to speed the clock up when the Raiders had the lead. One fan, who they described as a “Mexican guy with a cape”, once got bit by another fan’s dog. The team doctor actually patched the guy up, and the players promised to find the guy with the dog and kick his ass. They jokingly looked for him outside of the coliseum. Just one great story after another. If you know anybody with a Playboy on their coffee table (wink wink), check it out. It’s in last month’s issue, btw, not the current issue.

  157. jhill Says:

    I’m sorry, but I’m not sold on Bush either. I’d rather see Russell the Muscle get the goaline and short yardage carries.

    McFadden and Fargas behind a decent Oline, with Russell as the power back. Enough of twinkle toes #29!

  158. Dude Says:

    Its almost as if in some of your minds weeks 1-5 didnt REALLY happen.

  159. alisgod Says:

    SnB,

    Al was never a west coast offense guy until he hhit rock bottom with Bugel and brought in Gruden. At the end of the day, it’s all about the W. If they can show it works, Al will let them have their ways.

    man, awesome game yesterday. i love a physical game and that was awesome yesterday.

  160. Brien the General 510 Says:

    # vegas raider Says:
    October 19th, 2009 at 7:39 pm

    Brien,

    The KC game, please, the guy made two decent plays all game, with the game-winning TD coming on simply beating a LB to the corner. If he can’t do that, he needs to fold it up. BTW, what did he do the next week? And the week before, his fumble in the first-half was the beginning of the end.

    Bush gives me hope, but really not much to cling to. He moves and runs like a 10 year vet with a million miles on his tires, only he is like 26. Not a good sign for the future.

    We all know Fargas’ limitations, but so does he, his teammates and his coach, and they all work around it. Bush and Darren, what do you get week-to-week? Until they start being consistant, and consistantly fumbling and being hurt don’t count, you just can’t ride with that every week.
    **************************************

    WE are talking about plays that win and types of players that win in this league.

    As for the KC game how many touches did he get?

    Both guys at this point of their career are better than what Farglass was when he was their age. Farglass been hurt every year lol. Come on VR!

    Week to week going to Farglass 20 times a game will lead to no win streaks. Guy talent lacks and you just cant overlook that.

    Bush will be back and they will split the carries and Dmac will be back in the fold taking the carries away from both.

  161. jhill Says:

    I don’t have a problem with McFadden, SnB. I know fumble-itis has a cure. Give McFadden 20 touches a game and let Fargas spell him. Russell the Muscle in short yardage and goal line situations.

    Trade twinkle toes for a 2nd rd pick to whatever sucker we can get to do the deal.

    It pisses me off that his big ass doesn’t run like a Barber or a Fargas for that matter. Dancing around like he has some helluva acceleration or something. Have you seen him do anyting on a simple screen pass but get tackled after 5 yds?

    Please, don’t get me started on his soft ass!

  162. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    jhill Says:
    October 19th, 2009 at 7:47 pm
    I’m sorry, but I’m not sold on Bush either. I’d rather see Russell the Muscle get the goaline and short yardage carries.

    McFadden and Fargas behind a decent Oline, with Russell as the power back. Enough of twinkle toes #29!
    =====================================================
    JHill,

    When has Bush (or DMAC for that matter) ever get 20+ carries this year?

    Anyway, if DMAC is going to be used exclusively as a between the tackles running back….he won’t last very long. He isn’t durable at all. If they elect to use DMAC right and exploit his abilities then fine.

    But I haven’t seen them use Mcfadden any differently than the other backs.

  163. vegas raider Says:

    Brien,

    If you are going to give credit to Darren for his great plays to win in KC, than you can’t overlook Russell’s same plays on the drive.

    I would love for Bush or Darren to emerge over Fargas, I have no man crush on the guy, but we all watched yesterday. Bush could have probably had all those yards and touches, but he bumped his head and couldn’t go. Fargas ran harder than any other RB has done for 4 quarters this year.

    I wise man once said, “if you think you have 3 RB’s, you probably don’t have any”.

    Spend a 2nd or 3rd on a tough RB next year.

  164. Brien the General 510 Says:

    Time to shake. See ya guys later

  165. vegas raider Says:

    Nmamdi and Marshall’s comments afterwards were pretty alarming. Not that anyone should be suprised, but just the fact that it is laughable, and how obvious the difference in the D was. Al probably got mad that he was “shown up” like that.

  166. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Dude, I share your cynicism. I think the coaches just successfully lobbied to Al to change the gameplans. No way Al is going to let them continue to blitz, use zone schemes, and rely on the run with the offense. We’ve done this before. Changed the gameplan a little to rope a dope a team. Clever idea. Phily never saw it coming. McNabb expected man coverage, was totally taken off guard facing blitzers and seeing zone coverage on the sidelines instead of the typical one on one match ups you’d get against the Raiders. Just goes to show what happens when Al lets the coaches coach.

  167. vegas raider Says:

    And before I call it a night.. Props to the big fella for his Kevin McHale-esque, slow but effective spin-move. That thing had the whole Hilton theater cracking up.

    The big guy needs to pull it down and take off a few times a game.

  168. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    alisgod Says:
    October 19th, 2009 at 7:48 pm

    SnB,

    Al was never a west coast offense guy until he hhit rock bottom with Bugel and brought in Gruden. At the end of the day, it’s all about the W.

    …….

    Right. Which is why Al avoided the WCO since Gruden left, only briefly going back to it with Kiffin, and we all know how long that lasted. Al is not all about the W. If he were, we’d have more W’s. Al is all about his own ego.

  169. alisgod Says:

    Mr.

    Look I dont disagree with you on Al. I told you a million times. I learned to accept him for who he is. Of couse he has his egos, that’s why the Raiders are who they are in our glory days. That’s life. YOu take the good with the bad.

    The Niners won during the Walsh years but other than that what is their identity as a franchise. The Raiders will always be about the crazy fans (I get scared walking around them honestly) and crazy Al. it’s like being in a cult. Raider fans are all part of a cult and dont tell me otherwise.

  170. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Its not so much the amount of blitzing that made the difference. It was the looks that confused the Eagles. The threat to bring extra pressure can be just as effective as bringing it. Davis has to let Marshall run the defense on game days.

    They play plenty of man 2 man….a little flavor to go with that vanilla gives the opponent a little more to prepare and think about.

    A rookie QB in Sanchez? I better see some pressure. Any pro-qb will carve you up if you don’t pressure him

  171. Dude Says:

    Al is all about wins??? Gotta be joking. That statement right there proves how dillusional Raider fan really is.

  172. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    AlisGod, you said Al is all about wins. That’s not true. And if you know Al, you know that. There’s an awful lot he prioritizes over wins. He was about wins in the ’70s. But not today. Rule of thumb, most owners who are all about wins get them. Al’s not one of them. He’s all about control.

  173. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Dude, AlisGod is a propagandist. They personally insult people who refute their message. It’s part of their plan. Don’t sink to his level.

  174. alisgod Says:

    Dude,

    Let me explain this to you….

    1. We were supposed to be the doormats, scrimage, laughingstock.

    2. They were supposed to hang 40 on us.

    3. Ooopps, we took it to them and kicked their a$$.

    4 Now you and the rest of the mediots are all making excuses that the Eagles were never that good in the leage aka halway decent team.

    WE BEAT A GOOD TEAM YESTERDAY. I AINT APOLOGIZING FOR IT NOR MAKING EXCUSES FOR IT EVEN IF IT MEANS I HAVE TO WAIT 4 MORE WEEKS FOR ANOTHER WIN…

    I’LL APOLOGIZE FOR THE FACT THAT THE RAIDERS ruined your fcking day….Get it you stupid fck!!!

  175. jhill Says:

    6-0 …

    Wow!

    Look at the Donkeys!

  176. alisgod Says:

    Dude Says:
    October 19th, 2009 at 8:32 pm
    Al is all about wins??? Gotta be joking. That statement right there proves how dillusional Raider fan really is.
    —————-

    Really?

    Dude and Mrs. thinks the Raiders stink. Hates Al. Can’t stand him but still loves his product aka the Raiders….who’s really delusioinal here?

    you know why my name is AlisGod…because of dumba$$ like you guys. You hate his guts but you still bend over and grab your ankles for him.

  177. doriangray Says:

    okay. u know what im bout say/// umm? the ref just said when stokely cauhgt the ball & two feet came down in the end zone then the play was over ? LOUIS MURPHY ?

  178. alisgod Says:

    Jhill,

    Noticed the decline of the Chargers d once they busted Merriman for Roids. He was a joke out there rushing the passer today.

  179. Dude Says:

    LOL!! Yeah I get it. Cuz the Raiders beat them ALL THE SUDDEN the Eagles are beyond reproach. Superbowl contenders! World Beaters! Whatever clown. The Eagles ARE a decent team. Nothing less, nothing more. The fact that the Raiders beat them surely takes them off the “Good” level. Get it now clown?

  180. Dude Says:

    Who loves his product?

    His product is the worst in all of sports. As far as bending over for him goes…. Lets just say I wouldnt piss on Al Davis if he was on fire.

  181. alisgod Says:

    Then wtf do you follow his product?

  182. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    alisgod Says:
    October 19th, 2009 at 8:42 pm

    3. Ooopps, we took it to them and kicked their a$$.

    …………

    We scored 13 points. We didn’t take it to anyone. We deviated from our usual defensive scheme and fooled McNabb. It was a nice plan. But you can’t live on it. Yesterday was a glimpse of what could happen if we modernized our gameplan. Too bad we’ll never actually do it.

  183. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # alisgod Says:
    October 19th, 2009 at 8:55 pm

    Then wtf do you follow his product?

    ………..

    ^^^ This is another thing propagandists do. Ask questions that have already been answered thousands of times over.

  184. Crude Earl Says:

    Some of you idiots are pathetic……You set yourselves up, over and over for disappointment….I was glad to see the Raiders put forth a great effort and play 60 minutes of solid football without a lot of stupid mistakes…are they going to the playoffs …no….are they going to the superbowl …
    hell no… I like to think the Raiders took the first step on the way back to finding themselves and the will and way to win….Period…some of you clowns really need a reality check…..the Raiders didn’t beat anybody special yesterday….They beat an Eagle team that hasn’t beaten a team with a winning record and were trounced by the only team they played with a winning record….That doesn’t diminish the fact the Raiders won….but as far as the season goes it doesn’t mean anything else other than a step in the right direction……you morons must love to be miserable… setting up all these grand expectations…based on everything but reality.Wake up!

  185. djohnnyg Says:

    Crude is right but…What the hells so wrong with being a little optimistic for once?

    Raiders wona game and it’s about time. I’m happy just to shut some of the haters up for a week, at least as far as making the Raiders the “worst team in the league”. There are some worse teams believe it or not. Is it Super Bowl? No, but you gotta start somewhere.

    All this win does is gove Radier fans a little hope that there is a light at the end of the tunnell etc.

  186. morilla Says:

    I never thought I would be pulling for Denver in my lifetime. I love it.

    (Raider fan in San Diego)

  187. Dude Says:

    I follow it in SPITE of Al Davis. Al Davis is NOT the Raiders. You may be an Al Davis fan and thats great for you. I however am a Raider fan. Al Davis is past his prime and needs to hang it up. No shame in that, happens to every one in every walk of life. The shame of it is he is destroying a one proud legacy by not knowing when to say when. Simple as that.

    Bottom line_ I only care about winning. You care more about Al Davis and doing things “his” way whether it means wins or not. Makes you a Al Davis fan NOT a Raider fan.

  188. raidertbone Says:

    doriangray Says:
    October 19th, 2009 at 8:48 pm
    okay. u know what im bout say/// umm? the ref just said when stokely cauhgt the ball & two feet came down in the end zone then the play was over ? LOUIS MURPHY ?
    ____________________________________
    C’mon man, leave the Murphy call alone! After all, Murphy never made a “football move” after the catch. For the refs, a Raider receiver must have two hands on the ball all the way to the ground, have both feet inbounds, stay in the end zone for at least one minute after the play, holding the ball the whole time while the refs convene to make sure it was a Raider who caught the ball — if it indeed was, then they have to call the commissioner’s office to see what rule they can invoke to deny the Raiders a touchdown. Oh, and I forgot to mention the urine sample that both the QB and the receiver have to produce before they announce their decision. Conspiracy? Naaaaaahhhhhhhh!

  189. Dude Says:

    Oh and final thought on the “great” Eagles win. This team is a 4 maybe 5 win team. They had to beat someone at some point.

  190. Dude Says:

    Only Raider fan obsesses that much about the refs.

  191. raidertbone Says:

    Hey Man,
    A win is a win is a win; it don’t matter the opponent, only the result. Kudos to the Raider defense … too bad the offense couldn’t muster much (except for the big pass play).

  192. 408RAIDER Says:

    suck 1 dude

  193. alisgod Says:

    I just love to see all the apologists on here after we won yesterday…ooh the eagles were not that good…oooohhh we only scored 13 points…oohhh we were lucky…my a$$ for one day we took it to the enemy, picked a fight, and beat them like a rag doll.

    Do Denver fans care how it beat the Bungles? Shcytt no…

  194. Dude Says:

    408,

    Good one.

  195. 408RAIDER Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    October 19th, 2009 at 8:55 pm

    alisgod Says:
    October 19th, 2009 at 8:42 pm

    3. Ooopps, we took it to them and kicked their a$$.

    …………

    We scored 13 points. We didn’t take it to anyone. We deviated from our usual defensive scheme and fooled McNabb. It was a nice plan. But you can’t live on it. Yesterday was a glimpse of what could happen if we modernized our gameplan. Too bad we’ll never actually do it.

    ————————–

    Bro your starting to sound like Dakota or he’s starting to sound like you… Either way its kinda creepy cut it out man… LOL

  196. Trolls 35 Raiders 0 Says:

    Where :?: is that fool :mrgreen: charged up :?:

  197. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Any rumors of any potential trades involving the Raiders?

    Steve Smith of Carolina seems to be seeking divorce papers from the Panthers; Mr. J. Walker & a mid-late round draft pick for S. Smith would be a good trade in my opinion.

    Yes I know, my opinions and and 4 bucks would buy me a half a cup of coffee at Starbucks.

  198. Dude Says:

    Like I said, Alisgod, the token 4 or 5 wins were gonna come somewhere. Enjoy it, you only have 2 or 3 more times to do it.

  199. jhill Says:

    GAWD DAMN IT BLUE !!!!!!!!!!!!

    FUGGG !!!!!!!!!

    No way we get past Lee. It’s over!

  200. alisgod Says:

    Really, it’s a shame the Raiders had to win yesterday. I mean a real shame….right Dude?

  201. 408RAIDER Says:

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091020/ap_on_re_us/us_medical_marijuana

    Ill smoke to that later NATION!!!

  202. Oakglenn Says:

    # Mistabrown Says:
    October 18th, 2009 at 11:01 pm

    Oakglen, read this again so you dont forget it.

    ===============================================

    # Mistabrown Says:
    October 15th, 2009 at 2:48 pm

    Big surprise this black out. The Raiders usually play better at home when blacked out.
    =====================================================

    The Denver game three weeks ago was also blacked out. We lost 23-3 dummass. What a dummass.

  203. Dude Says:

    Let me try this again Alis(LOL)god,

    Raiders will be 4-12 0r 5-11. Guaranteed.

    1 win vs KC
    1 win vs Philly
    1 win vs ?
    1 win vs ?

    Win #2 had to come somewhere.

  204. jhill Says:

    So what are the chances of us going into the bye week 4-4?

  205. alisgod Says:

    Again I am really sorry we WON yesterday. you feel better hon?

  206. jhill Says:

    If Cable want to win his 3 in a row, the Jets and Chargers are probably his last chance. Heck he may even be able to get to 4 in a row with the stumbling Chiefs after the bye week,

    Again I throw in the qualifier of Al letting Marshall call his game like he did this weekend.

  207. alisgod Says:

    The days of the Chokers are over. They aint got no pass rush and LT is just old. Denver is this year’s Ten Titans 2008. They find a way to win and things fall their way.

  208. alisgod Says:

    Dude,

    I dont dare predict with teh Raiders unless I feel strongly about the team like last week. I WAS RIGHT.

    If you think you know it all and you mentioned you guranteed it. Then why dont you put your money whwere your mouth is and promise to leave this site if the Raiders win 6 games. Who the fck knows. They most likely finish 2-14. But really put your money where your mouth is biatch.

  209. Dude Says:

    Alisgod keeps gettn funnier…

    Raider fan proclaiming ANOTHER team is done. LOL!!!!!

    Pot calling kettle black much?

  210. Dude Says:

    Again clown, the 4 or 5 were coming from somewhere. Right or wrong?

  211. Oakglenn Says:

    # Brien the General 510 Says:
    October 19th, 2009 at 7:40 pm

    # SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
    October 19th, 2009 at 7:36 pm

    Fargas gave the Raiders what he always does. The guy runs hard and I give him respect for what he did.

    But Fargas is not the everydown back. Running backs also have to get those long-runs and also be able to score in the red zone.

    I still think Bush is the best guy. I wish someone would give Bush the ball 20+ times and see what happens.
    ***************************

    I wouldnt even mind Bush getting 20 carries but this talk as if Farglass is better than Dmac is ridiculous. How the Raiders gameplanned in the first half against SD is something to look at. They have bigger play ability and can catch out of the backfield better than Farglass………granted they get the ball.
    =============================================

    The tide started to turn in this game. Philadelphia’s defense started to play VERY physically particularly in the 2nd half. Three guys came through: Zack Miller, Justin Fargas and Jamarcus Russell. Zack Miller LITERALLY ran over two of their guys. After Bush didn’t want to play anymore, Fargas delivered EXACTLY what was needed: some nasty physicality of our own. And Russell stood in there and made plays in the end. Would some of you PLEASE STFU!!! You don’t know WTF you’re talking about. And I am not going to say please next time.

  212. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Special teams SUUUUUCK! Too bad we lost the Schneid to USC, but wasn’t he a Kiffin guy?

    Sure hope Nick Miller was worth the wait. Every one up till now has been horrid.

    Higgins is always an advernture but at this point, he screws up more then he hits pay dirt.

    Eeeee-ratic!!!

    Coverage has been better since SD and its a thrill to watch Tyvon Branch motor down field. He has an extremely impressive burst of acceleration in 4th gear.

    No lie.

    Mitchell and Branch should be special teams monsters if they can get the help.

    Till then, the return game awaits a savior.

    I’d make McFadden do it. He’s so deathly affraid over contact to his legs, he’d fair catch everything.

    WHERE WAS WALKER?!!!

    Have to believe the coaches I guess when they say he’s a no go or what ever.

    We all know Al wants the rookies getting reps but sheesh!

    Teach Bey the subtleties of getting separation and looking DB’s off with your eyes.

    The hands will come and by the way SOMEBODY BUY HIM AN X BOX 360!!!!

    Hand eye coordination people!!!

    Apparently, I’ve got to do everything around here!

    Makes me feel like busting someone in the chops!

    Way to fight for it Raiders.

    Lets roll…

  213. Thec07 Says:

    alisgod Says:
    October 19th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
    The days of the Chokers are over. They aint got no pass rush and LT is just old. Denver is this year’s Ten Titans 2008. They find a way to win and things fall their way.

    +++++++++++++++++++

    Actually this is a good call, cosidering the chargers were supposed to go to the super bowl. Raiders arent expected to do anything….

    so yeah the do choke…..

  214. Oakglenn Says:

    jhill Says:
    October 19th, 2009 at 9:36 pm

    If Cable want to win his 3 in a row, the Jets and Chargers are probably his last chance. Heck he may even be able to get to 4 in a row with the stumbling Chiefs after the bye week,
    ==================================================

    You win three in a row, and anything can happen. Denver is proof of that. They are a confident team. The only reason they caught fire was because of that fluke play in Cincy. They were getting kicked in that game. Their offense did nothing and their defense let Cincy waltz down the field and score with 1 minute to go. Now they are undefeated. We began to gain confidence in this last game. We were playing with more and more confidence. We have to BUILD on this win. We have to play BETTER next week. Otherwise, this win means less than nothing.

  215. alisgod Says:

    Jhill,

    My take is Cable is playing poker and decided to go all in. He’s gonna go down his way and so be it. If he doesnt blitz, he loses and he gets fired. That is why I have always liked him even though it has been tough lately.

    We have to get momentum. Beat teh Jets will go a long way. We match up well with them. The key is will the O stick to the dink and dunk and keep the offense moving a little?

  216. Richochet Says:

    alisgod Says:
    October 19th, 2009 at 9:12 pm
    I just love to see all the apologists on here after we won yesterday…ooh the eagles were not that good…oooohhh we only scored 13 points…oohhh we were lucky…my a$$ for one day we took it to the enemy, picked a fight, and beat them like a rag doll.

    =============
    Oh shut up, bandwagon boy. Prior to the game you were no where to be found..now it’s “WE took it to the enemy”? Before the game it was ‘the raiders lost”..now, it’s “we” lol.

    Beat them like a rag doll? WTF are you babbling about? ONE td because of defenders colliding..and that’s it for the offense…rest were FG’s, you idiot.
    And like it or not the EAGLES ACTUALLY AREN’T EVEN MEDIOCRE…the beat who? TB? Chiefs? both completely suck…Carolina? Carolina also sucks.
    McNabb played like crap..even he knows it..bouncing balls, missing receivers..hell, it looks like during the talk russell’s ‘playing like crap’ rubbed off on McMiss.

    Eagles just aren’t that good.

    Like I said, funny watching you primp like the queen hen.

  217. lefty12 Says:

    its funny that the play calling looks so much better and we can rely on our running game when we actually have a lead in the game.while it may be true we will only win 4,5,or 6 games this year,what is wrong with enjoying it when we do get one of those rare wins?isn’t that what being a fan is about-enjoying it when your team wins!let’s hope we get many more,and enjoy this one while we can.

  218. alisgod Says:

    no lefty,

    some of these guys think it is a sin to enjoy the win. They think as a Raider fan, you are supposed to be a loser. They enjoy it. They enjoy coming on here to prove they are worth something to somebody. My goodness a win only comes once every 4 weeks this year.

    What was most impressive was how the O pulled off those dump offs and screens without making it looks like a visti to the dentist.

  219. RaiderRetribution Says:

    Raiders are now tied for 2nd place in the AFC West at 2-3 with San Diego.

    WE defeat the Jets & the following week the Chargers we will be all alone a few games behind Denver.

  220. alisgod Says:

    Hi Richochet,

    How arey you honney? I missed ya the last 2 days. The niners were not on so where were ya? Been gone for 2 days. You’re right I was no where to be found prior to yesterday’s game. You are sooooooo Rigghtttt.

    ….But, you should try and google the following…

    “ibabuzz raiders alisgod guarantee pierce”

    Take that BIATCH!!!!

  221. Richochet Says:

    Oakglenn Says:
    October 19th, 2009 at 9:40 pm
    #
    =============================================

    The tide started to turn in this game. Philadelphia’s defense started to play VERY physically particularly in the 2nd half. Three guys came through: Zack Miller, Justin Fargas and Jamarcus Russell. Zack Miller LITERALLY ran over two of their guys. After Bush didn’t want to play anymore, Fargas delivered EXACTLY what was needed: some nasty physicality of our own. And Russell stood in there and made plays in the end. Would some of you PLEASE STFU!!! You don’t know WTF you’re talking about. And I am not going to say please next time.

    ========================
    LMFAO..and you’re “not going to say please next time’?? OH NO..not the..you mean…like the other time?? SAY IT AIN’T SO??
    OakDork is going to stand there, hand on hip, wagging his finger, while sticking his big ass out, saying “OH NO YOU DON”T’? That again?

    Dumbass..Miller LITERALLY ran over two guys? You talking about the TD? If not, when? the defenders ran into each other on Millers td, you dumbass.

    AND STFU ON FARGAS, you hypocrite piece of crap. You’ve always kissed McFumbles ass, and now all of a sudden, you’re backing Fargas? You worm..

    Ok…get to wagging your finger, Miss.

  222. alisgod Says:

    Rackolambs,

    Here I will go easy on you…have a good nite sweetie…WE WON

    —————
    alisgod Says:
    October 15th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
    Guys,

    I wish I was in the Bayarea still. You can get some cheap a$$ tix to this game. Why would I want to go?

    Because I guarantee you they will at the very least give the Eagles the run for their money if not win this game. You dont thinnk for once that guys like Ellis and Seymour and Nnamdi will say enough is enough? I gurantee you that.

    if they hang up 40 points like against the Giants, then I will not post on this blog for the rest of this season. I gurantee you you will miss out a very good raider game this weekend. The tix are cheap. Try stubhub for $5.

  223. Richochet Says:

    alisgod Says:
    October 19th, 2009 at 9:58 pm
    no lefty,

    some of these guys think it is a sin to enjoy the win. They think as a Raider fan, you are supposed to be a loser.

    RICHOCHET: Actually what they said is you look like a complete dumbass celebrating as if it was a major accomplishment. Makes you look stupid. Ok, I mean makes you look even MORE stupid, if that’s possible.

    See, you can appreciate a win, but you celebrating the Eagles playing like crap (while they actually are pretty crappy) is like a defender celebrating like a complete idiot because they tackled someone, where the guy actually tripped in front of him.
    Once the Raiders lose again, you’ll slowly slinker off, tail back between legs. No more swinging your purse around. Will go from WE WON to THEY LOST.
    ##############################

    What was most impressive was how the O pulled off those dump offs and screens without making it looks like a visti to the dentist.

    RICHOCHET: LMFAO..dumboffs?? DUMPOFFS? To YOU that’s what was MOST IMPRESSIVE? Dumping off the ball?? THAT’S THE #1 BASIC THAT EACH AND EVERY QB LEARNS..you moron..is DUMPING OFF THE BALL..and here, to you, you’re all jazzed??

    SEE WHAT I MEAN? You look stupid with those idiot comments.
    And you become an easy target. And everyone likes to laugh at you…so….lol…hey, keep it up. You’re good for laughs, if nothing else.

  224. djohnnyg Says:

    Dude,

    It’s obvious you are NOT a Raider fan (duh..ya think?). That’s what makes you so pathetic. You come on a “lowly” 4 win (you say) Raider forum just to tell us how bad our team is, for like, extended periods of time.

    What does that say about YOU?

    If the Raiders are such losers, then why are u here? You say Raiders suck. OK, fine, you made your point now go run over some squirrels in the road or take the legs off some grasshoppers. Sounds something you’d get off on. I know. I just gave you another idea didn’t I?

  225. BlackSunday32 Says:

    Even dinged up Chaz should look much better than the rooks hard not to surpass dhb 2 rec total , don’t expect a stellar rookie year but can’t have a sub 10 rec no td season.

  226. djohnnyg Says:

    CHAZ IS ONE OF THE TOP 5 RECEIVERS IN THE LEAGUE!

  227. Chris in NY Says:

    I thought Fargas ran strong and played pretty solid on Sunday, but everyone — and especially Cable needs to calm down a bit. No one is giving him the MVP trophy for a 23 carry, 87 yard, O TD performance (3.8 ypc).

    And I just remembered this one: for some reason on the last play of the first half with the ball on our own 37, Cable opted not to throw a hail mary even though the ball only would’ve had to travel 65-70 yards — well within JaMarcus’ range. So with Philly in a hail mary prevent D, they run a draw to Fargas who pads the stats with a 20-yard run.

    Take that one away and you’re looking at a 22 carry, 67 yard performance (3.0 per carry) from Fargas. That’s well below Bush’s average for the season but exactly on par with Fargas’ average for the season.

    I’m not trying to rip Fargas. It did look like he was running hard and he really helped kill the clock in the 4th quarter. But assuming Bush is healthy, he needs to be our No. 1 RB. And as soon as McFadden returns he needs to touch the ball at least 5x as much as Fargas (i.e. 15-20 touches to DMC for every 3-4 to Fargas).

  228. Raider O Says:

    Post # 228,

    I like Chaz a lot, I attend SDSU, so I hope you are right.

    Top WRs IMO:
    Fitz
    Andre Johnson
    Moss
    Brandon Marshall
    Calvin Johnson
    Boldin
    Wayne
    Chad Johnson
    Steve Smith

  229. Raider75 Says:

    Chris in NY Says:
    October 19th, 2009 at 10:47 pm

    Kind of surprised to see the Jets are a 7-point road favorite right now in this one.
    …………..

    Why? The Raiders have played more bad ball than good this season, so until they prove yesterday was not a fluke, they will not get love in Vegas.

  230. Chris in NY Says:

    This really is a fairly huge game this weekend. Win and all of a sudden we’re 3-4 with a chance to get back to .500 and riding a winning streak heading to the bye and about to get several key players back.

    Lose, and it’s 2-5 and fans will already start to have a little more interest in the 2010 NFL Draft class than the rest of this season’s games.

    Definitely winnable if the Raiders play like they did vs. Philly and Chaz picks up the passing game. Without Kris Jenkins and with Sanchez flustered, I’d say the Eagles are better than the Jets right now.

    Kind of surprised to see the Jets are a 7-point road favorite right now in this one. Will I be shocked if they cover? No. Will I be shocked if the Raiders win? No.

  231. Oakglenn Says:

    # Richochet Says:
    October 19th, 2009 at 10:06 pm

    Oakglenn Says:
    October 19th, 2009 at 9:40 pm
    #
    =============================================

    The tide started to turn in this game. Philadelphia’s defense started to play VERY physically particularly in the 2nd half. Three guys came through: Zack Miller, Justin Fargas and Jamarcus Russell. Zack Miller LITERALLY ran over two of their guys. After Bush didn’t want to play anymore, Fargas delivered EXACTLY what was needed: some nasty physicality of our own. And Russell stood in there and made plays in the end. Would some of you PLEASE STFU!!! You don’t know WTF you’re talking about. And I am not going to say please next time.

    ========================
    LMFAO..and you’re “not going to say please next time’?? OH NO..not the..you mean…like the other time?? SAY IT AIN’T SO??
    OakDork is going to stand there, hand on hip, wagging his finger, while sticking his big ass out, saying “OH NO YOU DON”T’? That again?

    Dumbass..Miller LITERALLY ran over two guys? You talking about the TD? If not, when? the defenders ran into each other on Millers td, you dumbass.

    AND STFU ON FARGAS, you hypocrite piece of crap. You’ve always kissed McFumbles ass, and now all of a sudden, you’re backing Fargas? You worm..

    Ok…get to wagging your finger, Miss.
    =========================================

    Time to go rack-o-sheeit. You have been proven by me and others to be a know nothing POS. BYE!!

  232. Oakglenn Says:

    Bye rack-ette. Go find your wife. Last time anyone saw her was 6 days ago at some biker bar.

  233. Oakglenn Says:

    Chris in NY Says:
    October 19th, 2009 at 10:47 pm

    This really is a fairly huge game this weekend.
    ==============================================

    This is a huge game for us. This is a game where we can start to make some strides on all levels. This is a game where we have an opportunity to say the last game was not a fluke. This is a game where we can begin to build on what we have here. We are going against a rookie Q who is clearly starting to get rattled out there. Time to take out the trash.

  234. priesttj Says:

    Chris in NY, You and OaK are right IMO concerning what happened and what we needed. Fargas was a physical presence we desparately needed and eventhough he didn’t rush for 10 yds a carry it’s his attitude. is approach was sarly needed when th rest o the team saw that they start playing with a different attitude. that’s called leading with performance.

    Brien is also right in his assesment that we need big strike ability. But both of those two were nursing (?) whatever they were nursing. But fargas brought the fight to them he made them respect his game. That took a lot of pressure off Russell and showed him that he wasn’t alone in the fight. He and the other Russell brought a calm to the big guy and allowed him to just play within himself.

    Now IMO what Chazz will bring to the WR’s is the same thing Fargas brought to the running game a playmaker and a fighter. Someone that will show the young guy’s how to compete how to make plays regardless to what the defense is bringing. Someone that the can watch DO IT. He will go out there and get it done. That will force teams to focus on Chaz and leave DHB and Murphy open.

    Also someone they can practice with and see him bring what the coaches are saying onto the football field on Sunday. That is HUGE if only Jruss had that on the sideline, someone to talk to when the defense is trying give him different looks.

    While Chaz isn’t T.O. he is exactly what the doctor ordered for these young babies at WR. once thy see that he can do it then they’ll understand what it takes. So when Chaz went down that’s what we lost someone to show these young guy’s how to make plays. Now watch that also rub off on Russell as well.

  235. Richochet Says:

    Oakglenn Says:
    October 19th, 2009 at 10:49 pm
    # Richochet Says:
    October 19th, 2009 at 10:06 pm

    Oakglenn Says:
    October 19th, 2009 at 9:40 pm
    #
    =============================================

    The tide started to turn in this game. Philadelphia’s defense started to play VERY physically particularly in the 2nd half. Three guys came through: Zack Miller, Justin Fargas and Jamarcus Russell. Zack Miller LITERALLY ran over two of their guys. After Bush didn’t want to play anymore, Fargas delivered EXACTLY what was needed: some nasty physicality of our own. And Russell stood in there and made plays in the end. Would some of you PLEASE STFU!!! You don’t know WTF you’re talking about. And I am not going to say please next time.

    ========================
    LMFAO..and you’re “not going to say please next time’?? OH NO..not the..you mean…like the other time?? SAY IT AIN’T SO??
    OakDork is going to stand there, hand on hip, wagging his finger, while sticking his big ass out, saying “OH NO YOU DON”T’? That again?

    Dumbass..Miller LITERALLY ran over two guys? You talking about the TD? If not, when? the defenders ran into each other on Millers td, you dumbass.

    AND STFU ON FARGAS, you hypocrite piece of crap. You’ve always kissed McFumbles ass, and now all of a sudden, you’re backing Fargas? You worm..

    Ok…get to wagging your finger, Miss.
    =========================================

    Time to go rack-o-sheeit. You have been proven by me and others to be a know nothing POS. BYE!!
    ========================

    See? lol…You get slapped down, insulted, and stepped on..and all you can do is state “please go away’?

    And then, to prove you think….very……slowly…immediately after you post this whining ass whimper, you then immediately post a one sentence 5th grade silly take?

    To YOU that juvenile “last time wife was seen was at a biker bar” is a reply YOU’RE PROUD OF? LOL…oh man.
    You’re one sad little boy, aren’t you?

    Oh..that’s right..someone stated you’re almost as old as Old Man Earl..in that case, I was right, you are, actually, dumber than cotton.

    Damn..sucks to be you Glenny

  236. priesttj Says:

    Oak, their QB is going to throw maybe 15 times this weekend. We have to come to stop the run andI mean we have to stop it all day long. This is not by any means a passing team. If we blitz 5 times I’d be happy. They have to strap on their helmets and be disciplined in their gaps because this team will run and run and run.

  237. Oakglenn Says:

    Bye Rack-ette. Maybe you flatter yourself by thinking someone reads your lame swill, but, sorry, no one does. Bye.

  238. Oakglenn Says:

    At least Chaz has shown the propensity for holding onto the ball. That is another thing around here that is SORELY needed.

  239. priesttj Says:

    Ok, thanks for the correct spelling on ’sorely’ it’s bad to get old. You’re typing one thing and thinking another. lol

  240. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    alisgod Says:
    October 19th, 2009 at 9:36 pm

    The days of the Chokers are over.

    ,,,,,,,,,,

    Another propaganda tool…focus on the shortcomings of other teams to distract from the shortcomings of theirs.

  241. priesttj Says:

    God, I can’t even spell Oak. This keyboard sucks.

  242. Oakglenn Says:

    It’s kind of funny that rack-ette comes here just to gloss herself. Clearly she is not getting any run at home, so she comes here to flatter herself. Sad, very, very sad, but at the same time highly amusing for all of us.

  243. RaiderRobG Says:

    I’ll admit it sounds promising with Chaz coming back, kind of hard to depend solely on Murphy being the go to guy, despite being a rookie. Still years from now it will pay off. He’s got that fire that comes from being a big play champion receiver in Florida.

    As for DHB, man son! You better start doing something, you’re making Rickey Dudley look like Jerry Rice.

  244. lefty12 Says:

    Priest,you brought up an excellent point yesterday about the lack of our local writers pointing out the terrible officiating.maybe if the writers covering teams started making more of a big deal about the ineptness of the NFL officiating something would be done about it.i don’t know if anyone else heard it in tonights game,but when a rec.(forget which team) caught a TD pass the official stated the rec. came down,put two feet on the ground with control so anything that happened after that didn’t matter.quite a different interpretation than we received.

  245. Richochet Says:

    Oakglenn Says:
    October 19th, 2009 at 11:18 pm
    Bye Rack-ette. Maybe you flatter yourself by thinking someone reads your lame swill, but, sorry, no one does. Bye.
    =======================
    Oakglenn Says:
    October 19th, 2009 at 11:26 pm
    It’s kind of funny that rack-ette comes here just to gloss herself. Clearly she is not getting any run at home, so she comes here to flatter herself. Sad, very, very sad, but at the same time highly amusing for all of us.
    ==========================
    LMAO…which one is it, moron?
    First you state you NEVER read me, then you state you do.
    See? You’re too damn stupid to realize you keep crapping on your own shoe.
    Save the ‘Oh, I didn’t read” What you, and EVERYONE knows is when I post, you wisely shut up. Why continue to have me school you? You’re a gumby, Glenny, nothing more.

    Hey..want some more entertainment?

    OakDork’s ‘I’m an Idiot” takes:

    OakDork: OakDork: Parcells message got old over in Giants land and he was going to take the Atlanta job before that was nixed by the league.

    Richochet: You are so freaking dumb..Parcells RETIRED FROM THE GIANTS because of health, dumbass….AFTER WINNING THE SUPER BOWL.
    And Atlanta? LMAO…geez…he was thinking of going to Atlanta..AS VP OF OPERATIONS..dumbass..not as coach..and HE turned down the offer and went to Miami..

    Let ya stew on just one of your “I’m stupid” comments, Glenny.
    HEY?? What are you doing up late? Don’t people your age usually get up at 4 AM? Lunch at 10? Dinner at 4? Bed at 8?

  246. priesttj Says:

    Left, Thanks but I ge tired of guy’s like Jerry pointing fingers at the players ad coaches as if it’s a weakness on their part. No team wants to have to deal with a different set of rules than the rest of the league. And routinely have to overcome them as if it’s normal and something you have to do or else you’re not doing your job.

    That’s bullcrap!! Jerry knows it and so does the rest ofthe media but they pass it offas if it does really exist. When they know damn well it does.

    I don’t cae what axe the league has to grind with AL Davis I pay good money to see my team play football just like every other fanof this league and I’m sick and tired of this bias crap.

    While these cowards in the media watch it and snicker and enjoy it, then blame the players if it somehow gets to them.

    You can’t tell me that Jerry and the rest of the media don’t see it.

  247. lefty12 Says:

    everyone sees it.i have hoped for years that someone in the media-preferably nationally-would step up and start calling out the officials but to no avail.it seems to be taboo to bring up their ineptness.and since the national media won’t do it,it would be nice if at least our local writers would.i bet writers in other cities report it when it happens to their teams-just not loud enough.

  248. priesttj Says:

    In their sick minds in some sick way they think we as fans and the players deserve this for having the nerve to be Raider fans. Especially with the 49ers here.

  249. lefty12 Says:

    actually,i’d like to see Davis tell the coaches he’ll pay the fines and have the coaches go off more often.couldn’t hurt.i know i’m getting sick and tired of it.i feel as though they are not only screwing the team,they are also screwing the fans who are paying money that are supporting the league.

  250. DirtyBathWater Says:

    Yeah we will always have to overcome these damn officials they have it out for our beloved Raiders. I have never in my whole life watching football seen as much bull crap calls go against the Raiders as often as they do when compared with other teams. Its totally rediculous. Since Als feud(did I spell that right? Lol) with the NFL and lawsuits we have never gotten the benefit of any major calls they ALWAYS GO AGAINST US!!!

  251. lefty12 Says:

    it would be nice if the officials were full time.its kind of ridiculous having a billion dollar industry and your officials are part-timers.it might not make any difference but maybe we would see a little more consistency.

  252. priesttj Says:

    Exactly Lefty12, they don’t view us as they do other fans as if why don’t you fools go root for the 49ers? Why do you support this team? It’s like they want us to quit.

    We have beeen blatantly robbed of two TD’s and a game this year alone. We would be 3 & 3 right now. And all we ever get is an apology. Screw that!! Stop your bias crap and call the game fair.

    I’ve said it many times especially after the ‘Tuck Rule’ game that Raiders fans need to make this a big deal because it’s obvious the media doesn’t care.

  253. lefty12 Says:

    there isn’t much we can do really,except biotch.like you say the team no doubt sends tape to the league every week and all that happens is we get apologies.then we get called for what we complain about the next game.a couple of games ago,Dierdorf mentioned that Houston was using the wedge on KOs and weren’t getting called.we probably sent tape and complained because the next game we were called for it on a kick.happens almost every week.

  254. priesttj Says:

    Lefty12, we are 100x more powerful than anyone can imagine if we’re organized. If we use forum’s like this as a mean of comunicating and then tart our own website dedicated to this struggle to sue the league and the officials not only will this stuff stop in a hurry but they’ll settle in a class action suit.

    Make these suckers squirm like you can’t believe and refund some of the money to season ticket holders. Who were victimized and the hundreds of players. Not to mention the team. The major key is to make sure we have a case. Then it’s ON!

  255. priesttj Says:

    Can you imagine if we brought enough pressure to bare and they started interviewing ex-refs and found a whistle blower.

    This league would be in danger crumbling from the inside out. They would pay anything and do anything to prevent it.

  256. lefty12 Says:

    great idea,but i doubt if it could be done.hell,half the people on here who claim to be Raider fans don’t even acknowledge it happens,or say its just part of the game because they don’t know any different.

  257. lefty12 Says:

    its late-talk to you later.

  258. priesttj Says:

    Left, when I go to games everyone in the stands realizes when te refs go under that shroud they are looking for a way to screw us. Whenever there’s a flag after a big play they know it’s going against us.

    Trust me 50% of Raiders fans are just waiting for something like this to take out their frustrations on the league and the refs in particular.

    I think it would explode if it were organized properly with Attorneys in tow. We have probably 1,000 attorneys as fans of the Raiders.

  259. Copenhagen_Fan Says:

    I wish we had Rankin right now. Then we could trade Bush or McFadden to the Pats.

  260. La Milicia Negra Says:

    ‘Oprah on location. the Happiest People on Earth’… I would see it if i could =)

  261. Copenhagen_Fan Says:

    LMN I call the Danes the most content on earth. The happiest is not really acurrate. Danes complain almost as much as Raider fans ha ha

  262. La Milicia Negra Says:

    copenhagen…

    LOL, well thats not farfethed

  263. Copenhagen_Fan Says:

    If you want to be the happiest people in the world, start with free university educations AND get paid like 500 bucks a month to go to school LOL

    Throw in a bunch of good looking girls who are looking for monster shank and you’re on your way.

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  265. Trolls 35 Raiders 0 Says:

    alisgod Says:
    October 19th, 2009 at 9:58 pm

    no lefty,

    some of these guys think it is a sin to enjoy the win. They think as a Raider fan, you are supposed to be a loser.

    If it walks like a duck :lol:

  266. BlackSunday32 Says:

    I don’t know it feel like almost a given the refs screw the Raiders and Duke BB gets every call. When have we ever got an apology from the League never .

  267. Trolls 35 Raiders 0 Says:

    priesttj Says:
    October 19th, 2009 at 11:18 pm

    Oak, their QB is going to throw maybe 15 times this weekend. We have to come to stop the run andI mean we have to stop it all day long

    Who :?: cares what a buttholeprick :mrgreen: means :?:

  268. r8dr4lfe21 Says:

    Good morning nation the only Nation,

    I’m very happy with our win, i’m so happy i have totaly forgot that my Dodgers are in the midst of getting eliminated from the playoff’s :(

    Football is my passion i guess, maybe the look in the eyes of my wife when she is looking at those grown men in tight spandex lol.

    We have the right to enjoy ourselves and we should, we just beat a team that has been so much better then us for years. We have to step up and handle the jets. Lets show these media clowns that we are not a 1 trick pony.

  269. RaiderTW Says:

    Dakota Says:
    Silver-n-smac,
    Things have been so screwy here the past two years, none of our backs have had success. If Bush and Fargas were performing well behind this line, with this QB that would be one thing, but they have not had success either.

    Time will tell.

    You are not on the list…yet.
    —–
    Have things gotten so bad that Dakota keeps an enemies list just like his hero, Richard Nixon?

  270. Trolls 35 Raiders 0 Says:

    Trust me 50% of Raiders fans are just waiting for something like this to take out their frustrations on the league and the refs in particular.

    Who :?: would trust a buttholeprick :mrgreen: :?:

  271. BlackSunday32 Says:

    I live way outside the blackout area but our local fox channel decided they weren’t gonna show the game in case of the baseball game running long that’s how they treat us Raider fans.

  272. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S.THE J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS ARE BEATABLE.

  273. 4evaRaider Says:

    Good Morning NATION!!!

  274. hwnrdr Says:

    Good Morning Nation!!!
    Screw the Refs…After that BS PI call, the team played like how they should have and the fans stayed in the game! THAT is what the team needs to do inside and out!!!

  275. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    GOOD DAY 4EVA,WHAT’S THE WEATHER LIKE IN BEUTIFULL FLORIDA THIS MORNING ?

  276. r8dr4lfe21 Says:

    Omg am i the only 1 who believes the Donks are beatable. That they have the luck of the Irish going on with them right now.

    I mean take week 1, we should have won, and they should have lost. Where would we be if the tides were turned?

    They have done it to us and they did it to the Chargers. When they get into a scuffle before game time, so the ruffle you’re feathers. They step up to you in the middle of the feild and start the smack talking.

    Now is that something that gets into a players head, and has them come out with anger instead of poise? Like we did, and the Chargers did yesterday as well.

    They have the mentality of there young coach, witch is kinda like a bully mentality. Now what happends to bullies when they get bullied right back?

    I for 1 cant wait till we meet them again, only this time lets have the i’m coming after you mentality. Lets punk them…

  277. 4evaRaider Says:

    Morning Dirt-Lot…should be around 85 today and sunny!!!

  278. hwnrdr Says:

    R8dr4lfe21: The team should do that week in and week out!!! Let the opponents know that we don’t care what you’re trying to do, we’re going to do what we want to do and get into their heads! Philly was astounded that the D blitzed as much as they do and it worked!!!

  279. r8dr4lfe21 Says:

    Thanks trolls i did feel a lil lonely in that lol.
    Mcfadden is not a bust, he is not a zone block runner. His skills are better when he chooses the hole to run in, it’s called instincts. Linemen get you’re man and i will find the opening.

  280. 4evaRaider Says:

    Morning Happy Troll!!!

    I have lived up 2 our bet so far…And have treated the Denver Broncos with the respect they deserve 4 kickin our azz…But I am un-patiently waiting 4 the rematch =)

  281. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Man, it was funny to see Dakota get Marleyed by Priest yesterday afternoon…

    Dakota, from now on please put me at the top of your DMAC bust list. Not third. When you whip out that can of “RUE THE DAY” I want to be the first one in line. Well, behind Priest maybe. He called it pre-draft about McFelldown being fragile and easy to tackle. And you still blame the O-line/QB? Fargas just showed us how to get yards despite odious QB and line play.

  282. Trolls 35 Raiders 0 Says:

    r8dr4lfe21 Says:
    October 20th, 2009 at 6:31 am

    Omg am i the only 1 who believes the Donks are beatable. That they have the luck of the Irish going on with them right now.

    Y-E-S- :twisted:

  283. Kirk Says:

    The Broncos are winning because they chose an offensive tackle in the draft instead of Darren McFumble. Offensive tackles win football games.

  284. r8dr4lfe21 Says:

    Hwndr very true,
    I just noticed it yesterday with the Donks.
    I like the fact that Cable got pissed and through his headset, he needs more of that on the sidelines. Call the players out when they mess up but do it in a way that they will not lose respect for you. I heard the Donks coach on NFL network talking to QB Orton, Orton messed a play up and said my bad, well let me tell you coach got in his arse. He said dont give me my bad just freakin get it right.

  285. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    RaiderTW Says:
    October 20th, 2009 at 5:41 am
    Dakota Says:
    Silver-n-smac,
    Things have been so screwy here the past two years, none of our backs have had success. If Bush and Fargas were performing well behind this line, with this QB that would be one thing, but they have not had success either.

    Time will tell.

    You are not on the list…yet.
    —–
    Have things gotten so bad that Dakota keeps an enemies list just like his hero, Richard Nixon?

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    LMAO. Playing shoot-em-up video games makes you a bit paranoid. Especially if you run a pawn shop in Unabomberville, South Dakota.

    And can you imagine what Nixon would have been like if he grew up playing Grand Theft Auto?

  286. RaiderRockstar Says:

    did Cable actually declare Fargas a scholarship player? did that just happen? LOL

    did Michael Bush & Thomas Howard just call out the fans?

    we better beat the Jets on Sunday if these players keep talking. I mean Bush should be pounding through and Howard should be flying around the field making big hits and breaking up passes if these cats are wanting the fans to pack the stadium and cheer a 2-4 team.

    Fargas got the bulk of the carries last week and Morrison got a game ball. maybe they should be the ones asking fans to show up?

  287. r8dr4lfe21 Says:

    I cant say anything about the Mcfadden draft, i wanted Gholston who knew lol.
    Last year i wanted to trade the pic and get 2 firsts.
    I wanted Rey Malauga, and then Harvin. If they lasted that long, but hey i support DHB and Mitchell. I think they will flourish and become decent players if not great, in do time.

  288. hwnrdr Says:

    Good Morning Rockstar!!!
    If the fans stop a blackout this week, the players better step up and cause a victory!!! Cause and effect: Players play to win, the fans pile in!!!

  289. 4evaRaider Says:

    4evaRaider Says:
    October 20th, 2009 at 6:36 am
    Morning Happy Troll!!!

    I have lived up 2 our bet so far…And have treated the Denver Broncos with the respect they deserve 4 kickin our azz…But I am un-patiently waiting 4 the rematch =)

  290. RaiderRockstar Says:

    good morning hwnrdr!

    couldn’t agree more man

    see you fellas later

  291. r8dr4lfe21 Says:

    Bronco fans are no different then us. They were all pissed off at the off-season they had. Getting rid of there probowl QB, firing Shanarat, and even Dawkins felt a lil stressed out with the whole situation, add the Brandon Marshall fiasco, and yes they were pissed.
    All of a sudden they start off fast, and there like wait a minute this might work. They act like they stood by the team the whole time, wagon jumpers i would say yes. They remind me of Patriot fans, lets not go down this same path as the Raider nation are the most loyal period.

  292. alisgod Says:

    r8dr4lfe21 Says:
    October 20th, 2009 at 6:31 am
    Omg am i the only 1 who believes the Donks are beatable. That they have the luck of the Irish going on with them right now.
    —————-

    sometimes shcytt roll your way. they are this year’s version of the 08 Titans. I never thougth the Titans were that good last year. They should have lost to the bungles, Cowgirls and patriots but whatever.

  293. RaiderTW Says:

    LMAO. Playing shoot-em-up video games makes you a bit paranoid. Especially if you run a pawn shop in Unabomberville, South Dakota.
    ———-
    Yeah Bo, what if GWB played Godfather? MAybe Dakota should switch to “Republican Sims” so he could control EVERYBODY! lol

  294. BlackSunday32 Says:

    Funny with out a hall of fame qb how avg shannarat looked , who knew kicking him and cutler out would make them stronger.

  295. BlackSunday32 Says:

    Given how bad returns and dhb have been man Harvin would have been nice , of course no way he goes 7 but guy is a baller.

  296. alisgod Says:

    I think Merriman without roids is a joke. He cant even get to the qb and the same with Shaun Philips too. those guys were exposed once their roids were taken away. Their db’s are worthless. those guys are over.

  297. Stabler76 Says:

    Kirk Says:
    October 20th, 2009 at 6:38 am
    The Broncos are winning because they chose an offensive tackle in the draft instead of Darren McFumble. Offensive tackles win football games
    ————————————————-
    You are right! I kept thinking about this watching Clady completly eliminate the SD pass rush last night.

  298. turnerbrn Says:

    if it’s not broke don’t fix but in Al’s mind if it works go back to the way that keeps losing?

    if every player and coach stands up to aging Al, things could change, I have been a Raider fan my whole life this losing is getting old. When i see them play good and get six sacks (I don’t even remember the last time we have had that many sacks in a single game) and a coach could get in trouble for calling a great game, that just makes even more “cause” for al to be relieved of his duties of owner!

  299. Dakota Says:

    Watch out Bo, I may place you on the list twice…

  300. Dakota Says:

    RaiderTW Says:
    October 20th, 2009 at 7:23 am
    LMAO. Playing shoot-em-up video games makes you a bit paranoid. Especially if you run a pawn shop in Unabomberville, South Dakota.
    ———-
    Yeah Bo, what if GWB played Godfather? MAybe Dakota should switch to “Republican Sims” so he could control EVERYBODY! lol
    ______________________

    Is there a release date on that one yet?

  301. Copenhagen_Fan Says:

    Trading deadline approaching. Do we make any deals?

  302. r8dr4lfe21 Says:

    Right now would you want Clady over super Mario.
    With there contract.

  303. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Good morning Dakota! How was your monthly meeting of the McVeigh County Pawnbrokers Association?

  304. Raider O Says:

    LMAO @ TW & Bo. Poor Dakota, he is being attacked for his opinions since yesterday. Serves him right for being a Rep. lol

  305. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Here is a little “slice-of-life” story about life in glorious Ohio. Perhaps you will recall it the next time you cheer for the Suckeyes. I’m looking at you Raider O. ;)

  306. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Oops. Forgot link: http://www.freep.com/article/20091019/NEWS07/91019029/?imw=Y

  307. Copenhagen_Fan Says:

    There are so many guys who could be more productive for us than Jevon Walker!

    ALMOST any WR with NFL experience would be better! Toomer, Joey Gallaway, Marvin Harrison,

  308. Dakota Says:

    You’ll find out in about 26 days Bo.

  309. r8dr4lfe21 Says:

    Well Dakota just stay away from Cali, or at least hit southern Cali. That will eliminate any notion that Big Al has of moving the team back lol.

  310. r8dr4lfe21 Says:

    Dakota you’re a republican OMG slice you’re wrist now. LOL Truthfully how can you live with yourself after 8 years of killings and holding you’re breathe everytime dumb ass would speak, i mean Bush.

  311. Thec07 Says:

    alisgod Says:
    October 20th, 2009 at 7:32 am
    I think Merriman without roids is a joke. He cant even get to the qb and the same with Shaun Philips too. those guys were exposed once their roids were taken away. Their db’s are worthless. those guys are over.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++=

    What up NATION???????

    I was saying this during preseason. chargers have zero oline, and zero dline. merriman was/is a fraud. He will come back and be great as soon as he finds the next best thing and start using it before test are developed for it. I hate the chargers more than any other team. They decry oh jamal williams is gone we cant do anything…. problem is williams wasnt going to be a factor this year anyway. i hope they do bring him back because he is done.

  312. Dakota Says:

    Raider O,

    These guys hate that I am right. Cable sucks, Fargas can’t score, DHB can’t catch and we are headed for a 4-12 to 6-10 season.

    And poor Priesttj can’t cope with the fact that he used the word unstoppable when describing our offense.

    And Bo is still mad that Michigan lost to Iowa.

  313. DirtyBathWater Says:

    Clady is good, but I am very happy with the “real” super Mario he will get more notible mention once we pust a few wins together.

  314. Thec07 Says:

    During a NFL football game what is the single most important time for a football team???????

  315. Copenhagen_Fan Says:

    THe Chargers always seem to have a lot of injuries. Too bad they never got it done while they had the most talented roster in the NFL hæ hæ…..

    Firing Marty was STUPID. Good for them, they deserve it.

  316. Copenhagen_Fan Says:

    Thec..when they are getting off the bus?

  317. alisgod Says:

    AJ Smith ruined that team

  318. alisgod Says:

    how many sacks has mario given up? 1 right?

  319. r8dr4lfe21 Says:

    The Chargers have been Norved.
    Tomlinson has been to busy crying, and Rivers has been to busy trying to talk smack he doesnt even notice there losing half the time.

    Roids have been takin away from the most talented team in the league lol. Lets go back to week 1 when the media had them going to the Super Bowl lol.

    The fans are already jumping off the boat yet again, so until they hire Shanarat or bring back Marty with a huge apology they will continue to hang themselves.

  320. Thec07 Says:

    During a NFL football game what is the single most important time for a football team???????

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Copenhagen_Fan Says:
    October 20th, 2009 at 8:12 am
    Thec..when they are getting off the bus?

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Good Answer, but not the one I am looking for…..

  321. Dakota Says:

    r8dr4lfe21,

    You are not on the anti-McFadden list….safe for now buddy!

    Now I can finally start the pro McFadden list…

    Dakota
    Brien
    Jhill
    Exla
    r8dr4lfe21

    hmmmmmmm, that is all for now….

  322. r8dr4lfe21 Says:

    The most important time for a team has to be the pre game meal. Lets lay off the high fats and eat good carbs for energy and sodium so we dont cramp up. Drink our fluids, and substitute chicken or tuna, instead of the beef or pork.

  323. DirtyBathWater Says:

    Im not sure but he seems to be doing an great job protecting

  324. Raider O Says:

    Bo,

    Only a Mich Fan would enjoy reading such a story in the morning.
    You Mich Fans are sick!! lol

    Dakota,

    I agree with you! Cable is not a HC, he can’t call plays, and he can’t prepare the team for Sundays.

    I’m out to school. You guys have a great day.
    Later Gents.

    Mich Fan,

    Maybe you should stop taking your talent from Ohio. The State of Mich sucks when it comes to talent that they come to Ohio looking for some.
    Dez Howard!

  325. RaiderTW Says:

    Yeah Bo, what if GWB played Godfather? MAybe Dakota should switch to “Republican Sims” so he could control EVERYBODY! lol
    ______________________

    Is there a release date on that one yet?
    —-
    Yeah, there was but the Repubs bankrupted the company.

  326. Copenhagen_Fan Says:

    I just noticed that TURD got cut from the Pats….I guess I missed all of the jubilation here!

  327. r8dr4lfe21 Says:

    Mcfadden needs to be used to his strengths. Let him hit the hole his instincts find for him. Enough of this zone blocking crap. When he is on the field lets not use a fullback he only gets in the way and blocks the hole. Instead lets run 2 tightend set or an exta lineman.
    If we do stick with this zone blocking then Cable needs to relenquish playcaling duties, and concentrate on the O-Line.

  328. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Dakota Says:
    October 20th, 2009 at 8:09 am

    And Bo is still mad that Michigan lost to Iowa.

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Strange how you converted from Catholic to Cowlick once Michigan beat Notre Dame.

  329. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Raider O Says:
    October 20th, 2009 at 8:23 am

    Mich Fan,

    Maybe you should stop taking your talent from Ohio. The State of Mich sucks when it comes to talent that they come to Ohio looking for some.
    Dez Howard!

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    And Charles Woodson…and Elvis Grbac…etc. etc.

    Smart players know how to escape Ohio when they get the chance! Comparing Columbus to Ann Arbor is like comparing Modesto to Santa Cruz…

  330. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    McFadden needs to be used like Westbrook and Faulk. Wheel routes, swing passes, screens and sweeps. Get him the ball in open space, away from defenders. That way when he trips and fumbles he has more time to get the ball back. Unless he got hurt during the fall, which is likely.

  331. Dakota Says:

    Bo, my second favorite team will always be the team playing Michigan…unless of course it is ND playing Michigan.

  332. r8dr4lfe21 Says:

    Come on Bo use a better anology, lets say comparing Stockton to Palo Alto lol.

  333. Dakota Says:

    Everyone,

    I would like to apologize for “peeing in everyone’s cheerios” yesterday.

    Raider Dell bringing up that I sounded angry really brought it to my attention. I have a lot of respect for him, and if he said I was going overboard, then I probably was.

    Victories are far and few in-between for this team, and although I do not feel that the team is making progress, that doesn’t mean I should bring you guys down when you are happy with a victory. After almost 7 seasons of this BS, you guys should be able to take a little solace from a victory, even if I can’t and it was wrong of me to be critical the day after a game that we won.

    I’ll try to wait until at least Tuesday from now on!

  334. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Priest said arguing with Dakota felt like a scrimmage LOL.

  335. 4evaRaider Says:

    Dakota…dont EVEN worry about it =)

  336. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Thec,

    When the clock hits 00:00?

  337. 4evaRaider Says:

    Thec…the coin flip???

  338. r8dr4lfe21 Says:

    Dakota i accept you’re apology, the same with a loss give us a grieving period.I would wait till at least wednesday but thats just me i cant have it all.
    Cant wait for the UPS driver today, he is a huge Charger fan but he has been down for a while knowing his team wouldnt be to good.

    Saints say playing the Giants felt more like a scrimmage lol.

  339. 4evaRaider Says:

    jerry fix this pos site
    ******************************
    aRaider Says:
    October 20th, 2009 at 8:39 am
    Thec…the coin flip???

  340. Thec07 Says:

    r8dr4lfe21 Says:
    October 20th, 2009 at 8:21 am
    The most important time for a team has to be the pre game meal. Lets lay off the high fats and eat good carbs for energy and sodium so we dont cramp up. Drink our fluids, and substitute chicken or tuna, instead of the beef or pork.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    again good answer, not the one i am looking for….

  341. Thec07 Says:

    Thec07 Says:
    October 20th, 2009 at 8:10 am
    During a NFL football game what is the single most important time for a football team???????

    Any Takers???????

  342. RaiderDogg Says:

    Dakota Says:
    October 20th, 2009 at 8:37 am
    Everyone,

    I would like to apologize for “peeing in everyone’s cheerios” yesterday.

    Raider Dell bringing up that I sounded angry really brought it to my attention. I have a lot of respect for him, and if he said I was going overboard, then I probably was.

    Victories are far and few in-between for this team, and although I do not feel that the team is making progress, that doesn’t mean I should bring you guys down when you are happy with a victory. After almost 7 seasons of this BS, you guys should be able to take a little solace from a victory, even if I can’t and it was wrong of me to be critical the day after a game that we won.

    I’ll try to wait until at least Tuesday from now on!”

    Sheet man, I tried to tell you the same thing yesterday morning, I must earn the respect that Dell garners from you. I was the one who asked “who pissed in your cereal?” :)

    BTW Put me on the pro-McFadden list, that #20 jersey in my closet isn’t just to look at.

    Fuk the haters, some people need patience!

  343. RaiderDogg Says:

    Dakota Says:
    October 20th, 2009 at 8:48 am
    I know Dogg, and I should have listened to you. Although you are always suspect due to your status as a Warriors’ fan.

    Revenge tonight by the way….”

    Dakota,

    It’s all good. I know that you secretly have an affinity for the Warriors. It’s going down tonight.

  344. alisgod Says:

    Dakota,

    Coolio bro.

    Wins are hard to come by. After 5 weeks of frustration. Sunday was well deserved for the loyal fans. I dont dare think of the next game until Wed or Friday.

  345. alisgod Says:

    Bo,

    let’s not even get started on how I use that name….

  346. Dakota Says:

    I know Dogg, and I should have listened to you. Although you are always suspect due to your status as a Warriors’ fan.

    Revenge tonight by the way….

  347. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    alisgod Says:
    October 20th, 2009 at 8:45 am
    Dakota,

    Coolio bro.

    Wins are hard to come by. After 5 weeks of frustration. Sunday was well deserved for the loyal fans. I dont dare think of the next game until Wed or Friday.

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    And on Thursdays you wash Al’s linens.

  348. r8dr4lfe21 Says:

    A suspect warriors fan LMFAO!

    Ok the most important time, let me see it has to be
    in the locker rook pre game speach. When our so called leaders need to rile them up and insist they play there arses off.

  349. alisgod Says:

    when cable asks them to lets go pick a fight.

  350. r8dr4lfe21 Says:

    The most important time in a game has to be when they realize they have a pigeon helping out.

  351. Larz Says:

    I like the coaches lying about reverting back to MTM vanilla defense.

    Don’t want the word getting out that we might blitz Sanchez….LOL

  352. McRaider5150 Says:

    Chaz should indeed take DHB’s spot on the roster, but I realy think people need to lay off of this kid.

    One minute everyone is talking about how bad Russell is at finding open receivers and not locking on to his targets, then we are saying that it all DHB.

    First of all, this guy was drafted to stretch the field, not run hitches, hooks and curls. Everytime i see single coverage on DHB with one safety back, DHB is wide open. Russell has not attemped a deep pass in 2 or three weeks.

    I don’t care what anyone says, but if DBH was on a team that had a productive offense, he would be more productive. he would have some drops, but he would also have a couple of TD’s

    I think the slot might suite him. If Chaz starts to get doubled, thing will open up for DHB.

  353. LA to TheBay Says:

    Morning, Nation.

    Thoughts and observations.

    First, JaMarcus Russell had his best game of the season easily.

    He went after WRs early, and they had two very good corners to go up against and weren’t able to get anything.

    Things did open up for Zach Miller up the middle and Gary Russell in the flats.

    Russell looked the most athletic I’ve seen him look.

    He still needs a lot of work on his feet, as his off balance throw led to the incompletion to Murphy on 4th and 1.

    He had a poor read up the middle to Miller as he didn’t see the defender drop in coverage.

    But made some very tough throws look easy.

    Forget what Jerry said, that pass to Murphy that clanked off his hands and got picked was a perfectly thrown and placed ball.

    The ball was coming out a lot quicker. One throw under pressure to Miller had a very quick and compact release.

  354. r8dr4lfe21 Says:

    Ok did anyone else notice the Redskins cheerleaders OMG. A full body spandex outfit, camel toe city wow. I know perv but whew they looked good.

  355. LA to TheBay Says:

    Seymour was playing out of his mind and allowed Kelly and Warren to put pressure up the middle. Seymour may have 2 sacks on the stat sheet, but there were at least 8 plays where he blew up the LOS and was disrupting, backup LT or not.

    The pressure let Scott get off the edge with lightning quickness. Howard and Morrison looked great coming with pressure, although, like Kirk said, there were a few miscommuniactions.

    The pressure was in McNabb’s face all day. He was never able to get comfortable.

    For a team that plays zone sparingly, they looked very good doing it.

    Routt, to the surprise of none, is far better when playing on the outside, and really doesn’t belong at nickel.

    The team fought off adversity (sp?) and battled back.

    The offense must be more crisp and the team needs to continue to develop wrinkles on O and D.

    Special teams coverage was good, not great. Jackson was contained, but the first guy missed on almost every return. Our return game is still terrible.

    Cable was fired up!!!!!

    A+ for the coaching.

    Cable and Marshall called a game that played to the strengths of their players and tried to avoid their weaknesses.

  356. McRaider5150 Says:

    DKnight007 Says:

    Throw some WR bubble screens to JLH and DHB and get at least two blockers in front of them and watch them take it to the house!!

    ____________________________

    Man I have been praying for that to happen since week 2. BE CREATIVE!!!! But your play makers in postion to make plays.

  357. LA to TheBay Says:

    “I think we need DHB returning kickoff’s get him dirty and get him a feel for the game, with his speed he can at least get us to the 20.”

    I agree completely.
    The return game needs a spark.

    Don’t know that DHB has the vision, but it would be nice to return some of these rather than fumble and fair catch.

  358. r8dr4lfe21 Says:

    La to theBay,
    right on the money, these youngsters will learn from there mistakes. I think it is alot harder to adjust to a Jmac thrown ball. They come with alot of heat, but in do time they will catch on.

    I think we need DHB returning kickoff’s get him dirty and get him a feel for the game, with his speed he can at least get us to the 20.

  359. M Lonetree Says:

    Dakota,

    good for you young man to realize that you were a bit acerbic in your commentaries yesterday. most of us have those days/moments.

    alas, I’ll cheer for him, your love child, but two springs ago as the writing raged here the pros and cons of McF I was all for using the #4 on Ryan Clady. I was shouted down as “he’s a reach at #4 et cetera et cetera”. So, I never believed in your boy from the get go. As`a result I am not in the least surprised by his lack of productivity.
    I’ll never be anything but pro-Raiders so I doubt I could qualify myself as anti-DMc. That said, list me as you will in your compilation.

  360. LA to TheBay Says:

    When Russell misses, he misses bad.

    But he can make throws that very few if any QBs can make.

    Sounds odd, but it looked like he aced all the tough throws and missed on a few easy ones.

    One play when he threw the ball away on a fake screen (I think to a WR), Cable got mad, but I saw what Russell was talking about when he came back to the sideline.

    He had a guy wide open coming from the hash to the numbers, but never got his head turned around in time, and JR just got rid of it.

    This will sound silly to a lot of you, but I also noticed this in Houston – Russell throws the ball away well. When nothing’s available, if he’s not forcing it (NYG game), he gets rid of it with a flick of the wrist and takes a lot of licks and looks real strong against the pressure.

    He’s got all the tools. Needs the commitment, Only he can do it for himself. Winning will probably help.

  361. r8dr4lfe21 Says:

    Here are the keys to our victory over the Eagles.
    A lil article i found that i found to be a good read.

    It is the day after and most of the talk is about Andy Reid going, well, Andy Reid again with his mismanagement of the clock. The discussion revolves around Donovan McNabb going, well, Donovan McNabb again with his mismanagement of the NFL rulebook.

    In fact, if you didn’t watch the Raiders defeat the Eagles, and have only read the synopsis, you’d swear that Philly just rolled over without even attempting to put up a fight.

    Quite the opposite. This was a thorough lesson in the fine art of football as taught by Tom Cable.

    This was not some instructional course in X’s and O’s. This was the essence of the game; a physical battle dominated by the Silver and Black. Plain and simple.

    Yes, McNabb is playing behind an O-line that is substandard even for the UFL. Yes, Reid had another one of his moments of madness when he abandoned the run despite the Raiders being among the NFL bottom feeders of run stoppage.

    Don’t confuse the facts though. The Raiders won this game on the strength of a sucker punch delivered by D-coordinator extraordinaire John Marshall and four other very key elements. Here they are:

    5. JaMarcus Russell – He was supposed to put this game on a platter for the Eagles. He was supposed to seal his Ryan Leaf status with another sub par showing. Instead, Russell made good decisions, was elusive in the pocket, made plays and took what the defense gave him. Maybe this is not the kind of stuff that is going to take Russell to Canton, but it sure was more than enough to beat the Eagles on Sunday. Baby steps.

    4. Jeremiah Trotter vs. Zach Miller – Seriously, who thought this was a good idea? No matter how bad the Raiders may have looked on film, Miller is the one guy who jumps out at you. Taking away Russell’s favorite target s is like taking media attention away from Brett Favre. He just can’t survive without it. One 86-yard catch and run later, you’ve got yourself a full fledged upset alert in the East Bay. Taking advantage of match ups is what the pro game is all about. (Louis Murphy gets props for plowing the road on Miller’s TD but his hands of stone that cost Russell an INT can’t be ignored.)

    Stanford was at his best as Raider on Sunday.
    3. Stanford Routt – Let’s be honest, when Nnamdi Asomugha went out and Routt came it, it would appear that the rout was on. Instead, Stanford did his best impersonation of #21 and didn’t give McNabb any sort of a window to throw at. His coverage was great and were it not for a questionable PI called in the first quarter that took Routt’s pick-six off the board, this game would have been over before it even started.

    2. Tom Cable – There have been plenty of jokes out there surrounding the Raiders, their head coach and the broken jaw of a former assistant coach. Say whatever you will about Cable; just know that he could motivate a waif to down an 8-ounce steak and then eat the fat for good measure. Cable wasn’t a happy camper this week and his team responded with a performance that matched the coach’s demeanor. This team still has not yet turned the corner, but with Cable in charge at least you know the players are aware that the road bends.

    1. John Marshall – I wish NFL films was following around Marshall all of last week. Just imagine the grin on his face whenever he passed Al Davis in the hallway. Cut to Davis on Sunday, choking on his Diet Coke after Marshall sent Thomas Howard off the edge. Then pan over to catch Andy Reid gasping for breath after seeing Trevor Scott get to McNabb twice before even realizing what just happened. Maybe Davis was on board with this game plan all along. Maybe Marshall went rogue. Whatever the case, the outcome was a masterful scheme that caught the Eagles off guard and sent their entire week of prep down the drain after the first possession of the game. Straight up gut punch. First round knockout scored for the Oakland “D”.

    Naturally, the Eagles made major mistakes that cost them dearly. David Akers went Scott Norwood twice in a game decided by only four points. Missing both wide right and left for good measure. You do the math.

    This might not be the moment when everything came together for Cable and his squad. There is still a mountain of work to be done. Just remember this game when you’re trying to get a clear image of the playoff picture. Maybe Philly has been exposed. Maybe the Raiders have stepped up to the challenge. Who knows? All I know is that the Eagles were out coached, out played and out right abused by a hungry group of Raiders who were being instructed by a coach in a foul mood.

    Rex Ryan, you’d better hope this week was better than last for Tom Cable.

  362. Thec07 Says:

    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    October 20th, 2009 at 8:39 am
    Thec,

    When the clock hits 00:00?

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++==

    Good answer, close as it does have to do with time…

  363. Thec07 Says:

    r8dr4lfe21 Says:
    October 20th, 2009 at 8:58 am
    The most important time in a game has to be when they realize they have a pigeon helping out.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    nice answer, pidgeon should replace the parrot….

  364. Mistabrown Says:

    Deranged loon.

    # priesttj Says:
    October 20th, 2009 at 12:35 am

    Lefty12, we are 100x more powerful than anyone can imagine if we’re organized. If we use forum’s like this as a mean of comunicating and then tart our own website dedicated to this struggle to sue the league and the officials not only will this stuff stop in a hurry but they’ll settle in a class action suit.

    Make these suckers squirm like you can’t believe and refund some of the money to season ticket holders. Who were victimized and the hundreds of players. Not to mention the team. The major key is to make sure we have a case. Then it’s ON!

  365. r8dr4lfe21 Says:

    thec07,
    Ok last try, it has to be the night before game time. No parties and no staying up late, and not to follow in Javon’s shadow and go to vegas to make it rain.

  366. r8dr4lfe21 Says:

    DEFENSE

  367. Thec07 Says:

    4evaRaider Says:
    October 20th, 2009 at 8:41 am
    jerry fix this pos site
    ******************************
    aRaider Says:
    October 20th, 2009 at 8:39 am
    Thec…the coin flip???

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    What up Bruh?????? Life is good when we win right….

    No not the coin flip, but good answer…

  368. M Lonetree Says:

    The most important time in a Raider football game is the moment after the inevitable screwing by the zebra crew and how the team responds to it.
    I’d say the men did quite well post-Routt crap on Sunday.

  369. Thec07 Says:

    Another question guys, What wins championships

    A Great Defense, or A Great Offense???

  370. Thec07 Says:

    r8dr4lfe21 Says:
    October 20th, 2009 at 9:29 am
    thec07,
    Ok last try, it has to be the night before game time. No parties and no staying up late, and not to follow in Javon’s shadow and go to vegas to make it rain.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Another good answer, nut thats not it…..

  371. r8dr4lfe21 Says:

    All good thec07,
    i’m easy going and like to laugh more then anything.
    Hard to believe that after a Raider loss i still smile and have fun with my kids.
    I realized long ago that they will not replace my T.V.’s that i broke and they get payed win or lose.

  372. Chris in NY Says:

    First, I know how ridiculous this sounds, but …

    Do you realize we’re only 1 game out of the last Wild Card spot right now?

    I know we’ve been non-competitive in half of our games and are only 2-4 and the offense has yet to wake up. If the Raiders revert to playing like they did from weeks 3-5 we’ll have a better shot at the No. 1 pick in the draft than a playoff spot. And there are 6 teams in the AFC at either 3-3 or 2-3 which puts them all ahead of us for that 6th and final spot. But it’s a ray of hope.

    This is a winnable game on Sunday. The Chargers can be beat the week after that. We’ll be underdogs in both, no doubt. So it’s not like we can look ahead and count our wins. But we could get on a serious roll heading into the bye.

    Who knows? Maybe Chaz is our Jimmy Chitwood.

  373. Mistabrown Says:

    I would be out of my mind to trust you.
    Denver looks well coached and well prepared to me but I’m not delusional.

    ======================
    # priesttj Says:
    October 17th, 2009 at 1:00 am

    Thr Broncos will crash and burn trust me.

    Adios!!

  374. Thec07 Says:

    Thec07 Says:
    October 20th, 2009 at 9:36 am
    r8dr4lfe21 Says:
    October 20th, 2009 at 9:29 am
    thec07,
    Ok last try, it has to be the night before game time. No parties and no staying up late, and not to follow in Javon’s shadow and go to vegas to make it rain.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Another good answer, nut thats not it…..

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Sorry for the typo Bruh, not calling you a nut

    “Another good answer, but no thats not it”

  375. Dakota Says:

    M,

    Acerbic? Had to look that one up…right on the money.

  376. Thec07 Says:

    Mistabrown Says:
    October 20th, 2009 at 9:37 am
    I would be out of my mind to trust you.
    Denver looks well coached and well prepared to me but I’m not delusional.

    ======================
    # priesttj Says:
    October 17th, 2009 at 1:00 am

    Thr Broncos will crash and burn trust me.

    Adios!!

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I hate the broncos but they do take advantage of the most important time of the game, better the any team in the laeague….Pains me to say that but its true…
    I hope they flame, but they have it, we need to get it…

  377. Thec07 Says:

    M Lonetree Says:
    October 20th, 2009 at 9:32 am
    The most important time in a Raider football game is the moment after the inevitable screwing by the zebra crew and how the team responds to it.
    I’d say the men did quite well post-Routt crap on Sunday.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++=

    Hell of an answer, happens every game like clock work…

    Not the answer though…

  378. r8dr4lfe21 Says:

    The definition of myself has to be “Infallibility”.
    I think it is dead on.

  379. Thec07 Says:

    r8dr4lfe21 Says:
    October 20th, 2009 at 9:37 am
    All good thec07,
    i’m easy going and like to laugh more then anything.
    Hard to believe that after a Raider loss i still smile and have fun with my kids.
    I realized long ago that they will not replace my T.V.’s that i broke and they get payed win or lose.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++=

    thats what has prevented me from getting a plasma, or lcd… It would have ben broken week one.

  380. r8dr4lfe21 Says:

    Oh snap why the violence thec07 lol.
    I agree though, i think the last thing i tore up was my Napolean harris jersey lol. Hey i know i thought he would be a good player my bad.

    Lets agree to not allow me to draft anyone lol.

  381. 4evaRaider Says:

    Thec…IT SURE IS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    **************************************************

    That question is the biggest catch 22 EVER,imo

  382. 4evaRaider Says:

    Thec… silly me they BOTH do!!!

  383. 4evaRaider Says:

    DeSean Jackson

  384. 4evaRaider Says:

    4evaRaider Says:
    October 20th, 2009 at 9:53 am
    DeSean Jackson

  385. Dakota Says:

    Thec07 Says:
    October 20th, 2009 at 8:44 am
    Thec07 Says:
    October 20th, 2009 at 8:10 am
    During a NFL football game what is the single most important time for a football team???????
    ________________

    The time in the game when the team is playing well and the direct line from the owner’s box rings on the sideline and the defensive coordinator has to make the decision to take the call or ignore it?

  386. r8dr4lfe21 Says:

    Ok fellas the trade deadline is approaching, what do we need. Besides a new O-line haha, do we have any value at any position that we can risk?
    I still say trade M-Bush, hell to the eagles along with a 3rd rounder for the Cal WR his bame slips my mind right now. But can we will we? cross you’re fingers and wish it to happen haha.

  387. Brien the General 510 Says:

    Thec………is it halftime when coaches make the adjustments?

  388. Dakota Says:

    r8dr4lfe21 Says:
    October 20th, 2009 at 9:45 am
    Oh snap why the violence thec07 lol.
    I agree though, i think the last thing i tore up was my Napolean harris jersey lol. Hey i know i thought he would be a good player my bad.

    Lets agree to not allow me to draft anyone lol.
    ____________________________

    Late in 1995, while in college, I went with this girl to her uncle’s house because he had satellite TV and we could watch the Raiders-KC game, the Raiders lost and I tore my shirt in half.

    Then she game me a bj to make me feel better…the Raiders lost a lot at the end of that season, so I was glad to have her around.

  389. Brien the General 510 Says:

    Denver has a good team but the schedule gets tougher and you never know what major injury will happen. Bal,Pitt,NYG,IND, and Philly are still left on the schedule along with 4 division games.

  390. r8dr4lfe21 Says:

    4eva thanks thats the lil fella i was talking about. Can he be had for M-Bush and a 3rd rounder if not a 2nd. Seems to me the Eagles need a running game bad.

  391. r8dr4lfe21 Says:

    Trading Bush is no laughing matter, unless it’s dirty Bush haha.
    Brien lighten up you are no more a general manager then i, the difference is i can live with it. You on the other hand take all things said on here as it was ment to be serious.

    The point is to spark new conversations not be stuck on the same blah blah blah crap. So my friend Chill and you will get you’re shot at running a franchise.

  392. Thec07 Says:

    Brien the General 510 Says:
    October 20th, 2009 at 9:58 am
    Thec………is it halftime when coaches make the adjustments?

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    That would be CORRECT……

  393. Brien the General 510 Says:

    Trade Bush lol

  394. Thec07 Says:

    Thec07 Says:
    October 20th, 2009 at 10:05 am
    Brien the General 510 Says:
    October 20th, 2009 at 9:58 am
    Thec………is it halftime when coaches make the adjustments?

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    That would be CORRECT……

  395. Brien the General 510 Says:

    Haha so let me get this straight McNaab has begged for play makers at WR and the Eagles are just gonna toss their best WR? My god it gets funnier everyday in here

  396. Dakota Says:

    No stache…and it was post-mullet Brien, geez lol

  397. Brien the General 510 Says:

    # Dakota Says:
    October 20th, 2009 at 10:00 am

    r8dr4lfe21 Says:
    October 20th, 2009 at 9:45 am
    Oh snap why the violence thec07 lol.
    I agree though, i think the last thing i tore up was my Napolean harris jersey lol. Hey i know i thought he would be a good player my bad.

    Lets agree to not allow me to draft anyone lol.
    ____________________________

    Late in 1995, while in college, I went with this girl to her uncle’s house because he had satellite TV and we could watch the Raiders-KC game, the Raiders lost and I tore my shirt in half.

    Then she game me a bj to make me feel better…the Raiders lost a lot at the end of that season, so I was glad to have her around.
    ********************************

    LOL! Great blue collar TV comedy by Jeff Foxworthy. How long was your mullet back then and did you have one of those redneck mustaches like Kenny’s dad(South Park)?

  398. Brien the General 510 Says:

    Thec……..halftime has got to be the answer. Either you recover from/repeat your first half performance or you lose focus and have a serious letdown

  399. Thec07 Says:

    Halftime, when “coaches” should be making adjustments.

    What 2009 NFL team makes the best halftime adjustments???

  400. Thec07 Says:

    Brien the General 510 Says:
    October 20th, 2009 at 10:13 am
    Thec……..halftime has got to be the answer. Either you recover from/repeat your first half performance or you lose focus and have a serious letdown

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    That would be CORRECT……

  401. Thec07 Says:

    Dakota Says:
    October 20th, 2009 at 9:54 am
    Thec07 Says:
    October 20th, 2009 at 8:44 am
    Thec07 Says:
    October 20th, 2009 at 8:10 am
    During a NFL football game what is the single most important time for a football team???????
    ________________

    The time in the game when the team is playing well and the direct line from the owner’s box rings on the sideline and the defensive coordinator has to make the decision to take the call or ignore it?

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    GREAT answer if we are talking about the raiders….

  402. Thec07 Says:

    What 2009 NFL team makes the best halftime adjustments???

  403. Brien the General 510 Says:

    # Thec07 Says:
    October 20th, 2009 at 10:05 am

    Thec07 Says:
    October 20th, 2009 at 10:05 am
    Brien the General 510 Says:
    October 20th, 2009 at 9:58 am
    Thec………is it halftime when coaches make the adjustments?

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    That would be CORRECT……
    *******************************

    Fa sho

  404. Brien the General 510 Says:

    Thec……..the dnever broncos without a doubt. 3 points only scored on them in the second half

  405. Thec07 Says:

    The NFL has turned into more than just who hits the hardest who is the fastest…….

    Question, how do you deciminate halftime adjusments????
    Is it the rah rah speech, is it looking at pictures
    taken from the game, What is involved here?

  406. Brien the General 510 Says:

    LOL Thec……….I dont even wanna say it because I’ll piss these other people off

  407. Thec07 Says:

    Brien the General 510 Says:
    October 20th, 2009 at 10:18 am
    Thec……..the dnever broncos without a doubt. 3 points only scored on them in the second half

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    If i could i would disqualify you from playing this game. But yes you are correct again….

  408. Thec07 Says:

    15 mins to make adjustments….. What do you do in that 15 mins???

  409. Thec07 Says:

    Brien the General 510 Says:
    October 20th, 2009 at 10:20 am
    LOL Thec……….I dont even wanna say it because I’ll piss these other people off

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    thats it your barred…… Just kidding Bruh if you got the answer spill the beans…..

  410. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Now I can finally start the pro McFadden list…

    Dakota
    Brien
    Jhill
    Exla
    r8dr4lfe21

    hmmmmmmm, that is all for now….

    ***

    i’m PRO DMC!

  411. jhill Says:

    LOL!

    Way to get football 101 going for these guys Thec!

    Question, how do you deciminate halftime adjusments????
    Is it the rah rah speech, is it looking at pictures
    taken from the game, What is involved here?

    Your coach simply has to be smarter than the guy across the sidelines. Like Romey said this morning, there is no doubt about McDaniels being the smartest guy in the room. Dude has ZERO ego as to HOW a game should be called. He simply looks at what the other team is doing and finds a way to counter it. Passing game not working? F it, 3 TEs. Running game not working, 5WRs. Counter, couter, stick and move!

    Heard dude on NFL Networks Mic’d up. Classic!

    Orton: “My Bad, my bad!”

    McDaniels “I’m not F’ing talking about ‘my bad’ any more! Make the F’ing play! Cmon!”

  412. Thec07 Says:

    Halftme, 15 mins to deciminate what took place in the first half, digest it and deliver all that back in a way that everyone understands, and is able to execute… 15 mins only…… when you had a week to prepare….

  413. Thec07 Says:

    I do not and will not claim to have insight into what goes on at halftime. Can someone please shed somelight.

    What takes place at halftime??? 15 mins to make adjustments…

  414. jhill Says:

    Not much you can do in 15 minutes. Look at the Eagles. They were not prepared for the defense we threw at them for whatever reason.

    The move for Reid to make IMO would have been to go big and pound the ball instead of doing a Cable and forcing the passing game.

    Look at Belechick. Brady was struggling, they went to Taylor for a few games.

    It’s all about what adjustments, or other strategies you have in your bag of tricks.

  415. Thec07 Says:

    jhill Says:
    October 20th, 2009 at 10:25 am
    LOL!

    Way to get football 101 going for these guys Thec!

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Jhill, what up Bruh…. Funny you mention the broncos, and yes the guys got smarts upstairs no doubt.

  416. LA to TheBay Says:

    Put me on the “use DMC properly” list.

    The guy is a RB, not a slot receiver. When healthy and with blocks in front of him, the guy can be deadly.

    He was hitting the hole real hard early on this season and blocking well.

    I would have like to have seen more creativity with McFadden.

    So RB? Yes. WR? Yes. Slot receiver? Yes.

    That doesn’t mean every run has to be a stretch or an off tackle or pitch, although many more of those should be sprinkled in. An effective O line would help, although Fargas showed us he can average 7 a carry even with that line (garbage runs in the 4th that are valuable in eating up clock diminished his average).

    Anyone looking at stats won’t see much jump out at them with regards to Fargas, but anyone watching the game saw that this guy was the spark.

    People talk about the 2 – 5 yard runs that sustain drives and are the foundation for a run-first offense.

    And they’d be correct.

    BUT.

    F that, fargas was geting 6, 7, 12 at a time and only slowed down when the kithcen sink got thrown at him while eating up clock.

  417. RaiderRockstar Says:

    “Where he is, where he goes with it will, ultimately, be up to him,” Cable said. “How good he wants to be, how much he’s willing to, ultimately, put into it to get what he should get out of it.

    ***

    that (above) was Tom Cable talking about JaWalrus.

    so in other words, Cable is saying “don’t hold me responsible for this bust. he’s not putting the work in.”

  418. RaiderRockstar Says:

    if the Raiders enter the bye week at 4-4, Tom Cable should be cleared of all charges … If they are 2-6, arrest the man and get James Lofton back in here as interim hc

    come on raiders! play for your coach’s freedom!

  419. jhill Says:

    Dakota,

    How about a Pro #2 list?!?!?!

    Enough is enough! Call your shot now, and don’t waffle with the he could be good if he loses some weight or puts in the film study. That’s all old news.

    Bust or Raider QB for the next 10 years?

    Put me on the Pro list Dakota!

    Fugg it!

  420. Dakota Says:

    Thec07 Says:
    October 20th, 2009 at 10:32 am
    I do not and will not claim to have insight into what goes on at halftime. Can someone please shed somelight.
    What takes place at halftime??? 15 mins to make adjustments…
    ______________________________________________________

    Halftime of the Raiders-Giants game:
    Cable: I have to take a crap….be back in 20.

    Halftime of the Raiders-Texans Game:
    Cable: Where is Russell?
    Morrison: Pizza Hut.
    Cable: Oh.

    Halftime of the Raiders-Saints pre-season game:
    Cable: Where is everyone?
    Ellis: They are all puking in the bathroom due to their hangovers coach.
    Cable: Oh.

  421. RaiderRockstar Says:

    How about a Pro #2 list?!?!?!

    ***

    i’m always ready for a morning deuce, but if you’re talking about Russell … i don’t see anything positive coming down the pipeline

    i’m on the ‘Russell = bust’ committee

    promote Danny Southwick to the 53!

  422. jhill Says:

    Yeah, we know RRS.

    I think it will be much easier for Dakota to keep a pro list. Like McFadden, I doubt it gets to 10 names, lol!

  423. RaiderRockstar Says:

    only in Oakland would a QB with 10 turnovers and 2 TD’s still be starting in Week 7.

    that QB Rating of 51 and comp percentage of 45 sure is impressive!

    *** here come all the Peyton Manning, Troy Aikman & John Elway comparisons *** LOL

    an unproductive WR corps stems from a unproductive QB Jerry!

  424. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Cable is a puppet as long as he starts the worst starting QB in the league.

    playing a guy due to his salary not performance is asking for losses. this has Al Davis’ fingerprints all over it

    “JaMarcus Russell is a good quarterback. deal with it!” – AD at the presser

  425. beeecham Says:

    Hey Brian the Genital, great to see you hard at work in the blog! Your grandfather Krappy was freaking out yesterday and getting an earful about his old dog ways. Poor fool!

    I try to explain to people that Krappy isn’t a total loser, just a senile old goat that needs to be put out to pasture, but folks don’t always listen.

    Anyway, you might want to have a talk with your granpappy about behaving himself better in the blog. I’d hate to see the old fool set a new pant crapping record because of the stress.

  426. Dakota Says:

    Rockstar,

    I can’t make a pro or anti Russell list because I don’t know where I stand on him right now.

    The guy doesn’t appear to have much of a work ethic or love for the game, and yet I would like to see him under a real NFL HC and system before calling him a bust…

    Sorry.

  427. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    October 20th, 2009 at 10:41 am

    if the Raiders enter the bye week at 4-4,

    …………

    Stop it. You know that’s not going to happen.

  428. jhill Says:

    That’s the waffling position everyone is taking right now Dakota!

    The old, I knew he had talent, all he had to do was …
    That’s what everyone on the networks will be saying before the season is over.

    Based on your gut right now, call your shot!

    Does he or has he already gotten his shyt together? Or will he be back in Bama next year?

  429. jhill Says:

    RRS,

    Did you see the game this weekend?

    Seriously! I know it was blacked out in a lot places.

    Just curious.

  430. Dakota Says:

    Jhill,

    I would trade Russell for Kevin Kolb, but not for Michael Vick. Hope that clarifies my position on Russell. lol

  431. jhill Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    October 20th, 2009 at 10:53 am

    Cable is a puppet as long as he starts the worst starting QB in the league.

    ——————————————————-

    Cmon, now! Is #2 REALLY the worst starting QB in the league?

    Or are you just saying that for effect?

  432. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Dakota,
    Halftime of the Raiders-Saints pre-season game:
    Cable: Where is everyone?
    Ellis: They are all puking in the bathroom due to their hangovers coach.
    Cable: Oh.

    —————————————————–

    I went to the Monday Night Football game in New Orleans to root for our Raiders with the Booster Organization.. After the Raiders 10:00 curfew, some of us waited on Bourbon St. At 1:00 A.M.,
    Marcus Allen, Jay Schroeder, Gault, Steve Smith, Golic, Elvis “Toast” Patterson and others came out and partied until 3:30 A.M.

    Final Score
    Dec. 16, 1991 NEW ORLEANS 27, L.A. Raiders 0

  433. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    CaChing!

  434. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    ExLaRaider, Marcus Allen never drank. Sure you don’t want to recant that fun little story?

  435. Dakota Says:

    Exla,

    I guess things will never change, lol.

  436. Dakota Says:

    Breaking News:

    The Oakland Raiders have just signed recently released veteran wide receiver, Joey Galloway, to a 4 year $36 million dollar deal.

    More on this story at 10!

  437. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Never said Marcus drank alcohol, never checked what was in their Hurricane Glasses. Most of them were toasted. By the way, Marcus’s favorite was nose candy with Nicole Simpson.

  438. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    I saw Marcus out in New Orleans. That’s a fact. O.J. was mad at Nicole for allegedly doing coke with him. Al Davis thought it would come out at the O.J. trial.

  439. Raider Dell Says:

    Dakota

    I read the comment above. Thanks for your response and I always got your back.

    Please put me on the pro DMAC list.

  440. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    ExLa, Marcus Allen never went out. Maybe to dinner with some of the players, that was it. He was never out at 3am with guys who were drinking. Ever. Marcus never did coke, either. As far as doing Nicole? What’s wrong with that?

  441. UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    October 20th, 2009 at 10:25 am
    Now I can finally start the pro McFadden list…

    Dakota
    Brien
    Jhill
    Exla
    r8dr4lfe21

    hmmmmmmm, that is all for now….

    ***

    i’m PRO DMC!

    =================

    cont me in i think with a better o-line he’s going to get it going.

    last night i was watching clady and that o-line of the donkey’s and can only wonder why any team would take someone like dhb over someone like clady WTF ????

  442. LA to TheBay Says:

    Jhill.

    I’m mixing up a big batch o’ Raiderade.

    Pro.

    Guy makes ridiculously athletic throws.

    Problem is the consistency and footwork, which can be corrected.

    He will occasionally step away from a throw and make if off his back foot falling away in kind of a “yeah, what!??” fashion. Hard for me to describe.

    But what a cannon. Great to the backs and tight ends. Good down the seam. Poor to the outside and deep. Has trouble knowing which shoulder to throw on.

    Passes in tight windows typically are his strength. Lobs down the sideline where the key is hitting the WR’s correct shoulder and placement so that it can be caught in stride is where he needs work.

    He makes a lot of throws other guys just can’t.

    I’m sure RRS has the “JaWalrus List” ready to go, but despite all the fat jokes, he’s very athletic.

  443. Brien the General 510 Says:

    # beeecham Says:
    October 20th, 2009 at 10:53 am

    Hey Brian the Genital, great to see you hard at work in the blog! Your grandfather Krappy was freaking out yesterday and getting an earful about his old dog ways. Poor fool!

    I try to explain to people that Krappy isn’t a total loser, just a senile old goat that needs to be put out to pasture, but folks don’t always listen.

    Anyway, you might want to have a talk with your granpappy about behaving himself better in the blog. I’d hate to see the old fool set a new pant crapping record because of the stress.
    ****************************************

    Wow the living legend and symbol of transsexuality is back. Beecher spare us your daily regurgitated jokes about another man’s anus. The Raider blog is not a blog to discuss your deep and oh so dark fantasies with the male species.

    You never talk Raider football so do us all a favor and not come back. Now go along and bake a cake or watch one of your DVR shows of America’s Next Top model and leave the men to talking about football.

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