G. Russell: `Talent doesn’t win games’
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, October 20th, 2009 at 3:48 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Fullback Gary Russell, who signed with the Raiders Oct. 7 and then played a key role in the Raiders’ 13-9 win over the Philadelphia Eagles 11 days later, told listeners on The Monty Show (Sporting News Radio) the difference between his new team and his old team has more to do with desire and aggression that ability.
“Coach Tom Cable came to me because I was in Pittsburgh and we won a Super Bowl …so he came to me asking me what’s the difference between here (Oakland) and Pittsburgh and I was like ‘man y’all got a lot more talent than we had in Pittsburgh, but talent doesn’t win games,’ ” Russell said. “And we started breaking it down and I told him that if the guys can get in there and throw their bodies on the line every play we could have a great team.”
Cable had high praise for Russell’s performance against Philadelphia, and not just because he caught five passes for 55 yards, including a 13-yard completion to convert a third-and-10 and allow the Raiders to run out the clock against the Eagles.
“Man, oh, man, he gave us a lot of explosiveness in there and knocked some guys around in there pretty good,” Cable said Monday. “He was able to seal a couple of run lanes and caught the ball well. The thing that he does well, that people don’t quite understand is, he’s a really good pass protector, and it showed up yesterday in some of their pressures.”
The Raiders waived fullback Oren O’Neal while injured (he is now on the club’s injured reserve, out for the season) and Luke Lawton was unavailable because of an ankle injury. Given Lawton’s problems holding on to the ball in the passing game, as well as Cable’s praise for Russell’s blocking, it would appear the Raiders have a new fullback.
Russell led the Raiders in rushing during the preseason with 158 yards on 28 carries but failed to make the final cut, with Darren McFadden, Justin Fargas and Michael Bush at running back and O’Neal and Lawton at fullback.
He gives the Raiders in some ways similar to Justin Griffith, a smaller fullback (5-foot-11, 215 pounds) who depends on technique and the element of surprise as a blocker while also serving as a solid receiver out of the backfield.
Russell had only caught one career pass with the Steelers and lost two yards before Sunday’s game against the Eagles.
“He’s always been able to catch the ball since he’s been here in training camp and everything,” Bush said. He can catch the ball. He’s got some nice soft hands.”
Off-day notes
– Giants linebacker Antonio Pierce was just glad he could help.
A Raiders fan growing up in the Los Angeles area, Pierce’s observations about the lifeless Raiders being “like a scrimmage” in a 44-7 beatdown at the Meadowlands were posted in the locker room in Alameda _ and may have contributed to a win over Philadelphia. Which happens to be a division rival of the Giants.
“I was surprised that my quotes became bulletin board material. You know, again, I meant no disrespect by what I said last week. It was just my opinion of how I felt the game was going. But I was shocked to see how the Raiders went out there and played a very good Eagles team who we know very well,” Pierce said on Sirius Satellite Radio Tuesday. “And, you know what, that’s how it is in the National Football League, any given Sunday any team can go out there and play well.
“They got motivated by whatever. If it was my comments, you know, I’m happy because they beat the Eagles. But, you know what, they went out there and they played well and they got a win and it’s good for the franchise.”
– During the most recent edition of “The Head Coaches” in the NFL Network, former Rams head coach and network analyst Mike Martz seemed as surprised by the Eagles by the blitz package put forth by the Raiders.
“They’re doing things on defense that I’ve never seen them do before. It’s very effective,” Martz said.
– Another rumored “fire sale,” and another season of inactivity. The Raiders or the NFL had not announced any trades involving the franchise as of the deadline at 1 p.m. (Pacific time).
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October 20th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
yo
October 20th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
No trades??? Grew some balls you spineless owners!!!
Why would the Browns, Lions, Bucs, Redskins and some others not try to work a deal, any type of deal? What do they have to lose?
October 20th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
4evaRaider Says:
October 20th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
let me just say this is an HONOR just to witness!!! =)
October 20th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
Pretty popular today eh, Brien??
October 20th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
a 215 pound FB in 2days game.Who woulda thunk it???
October 20th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
4eva, LOL, if I could I would have, action junky I am (Go Angels today!!!). Kind of ticks me off no trades ever in the NFL. Why not?
October 20th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
Lol, sorry Brien, I couldn’t help myself.
October 20th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
put some $$$ on how many trades would go down 2day Vegas???
October 20th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
I AM
PRO MCFADDEN
PRO BUSH
ANTI CABLE
ANTI RUSSELL
CABLE AND RUSSELL ARE A PERFECT MATCH THEY BOTH SUCK I JUST WISH BREAKING HANSONS JAW WAS A WITHOUT BAIL OFFENSE.
HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO ISSUE AN ARREST WARRANT FOLOWED BY ” YOUR FIRED FOR CAUSE “
October 20th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
lol
October 20th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
Really like what Gary Russell has brought to the team…Let’s bring the same intensity to the Jets!
October 20th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
GG Says:
October 20th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
There’s word coming out of Oakland that John Marshall will be fired as defensive co-ordinator. Irreconcilable differences between him and Davis. Cue the “being yelled at for blitzing” comments. Something that probably shouldn’t be said publicly. But shows him and Davis have fighting over the defensive schemes week in and week out and Marshall frustrated by Al’s tyranny.
Typical.
^^^^^^^Where is this “rumour” coming from??
If it is true, then it wouild just be more PROOF of how stupid and outdated the old stubborn man Al Davis really is.
Remember the stat that showed the Raiders have the leagues lowest blitz percentage at 17% I think it was??
Marshall finally gets his nut sac back and mixes it up with stunts, 3-4 zone blitz packages, gap blitzes that confuse the hell out the Eagles offense and get them off their timing in the passing game and the defense has their best defensive effort and showing this season and the team WINS!
Now the old man idiotic man is mad about it??
Only insane man like Al Davis would react that way!
Laughably pathetic IF true!
October 20th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
Dakota
How’s the pawn shop holding up. I see you’ve been busy at work the past few days.
I hope work is going well.
October 20th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
Dakota Says:
October 20th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
Al’s custom doors at his house…friggin awesome!:
http://www.sanssoucie.com/blog/2009/10/glass-doors-for-oakland-raiders-al-davis/
^^^^^^^Awesome….too bad the old man can’t build a winning team like he can build glass doors!
October 20th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
Brien the General 510 Says:
October 20th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
For those of you that dont what Bayfair Mall is………….its the mall right across the street from Ricky’s Sports Bar in San Leandro. Also it across from Chili’s where Raider and even some 49er players constantly go to. Russell and his entourage are seen by the Bayfair area alot. Also JLH.
LOL come on MR, KK or any dumb ass who wants to dispute this. I dare you
^^^^^^^Great….if any of you alcoholics see Russell, tell his a$$ to stop drinking and hire a freakin personal trainer instead!
Tell him to start coming in study film until late, instead of having late parties at his house and tell him start going to practice early and stay late…..instead of arriving late and leaving early!
October 20th, 2009 at 4:30 pm
GRuss is right. Football is all about who wants it more.
October 20th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
Dakota, exactly what kind of hick are you? can’t you read, if russell is telling Cable that the Raiders are more talented than the Steelers then Al Davis has done his job. It’s up to the players to play football and stop using him as an excuse NOT TO!!
Any fool with half a brain can see through all this crap!! these guy’s are able to get away with playing half ass football because no one holds them accountable all you idiots do is blame an 80 year old man who can’t block or tackle. What was the difference between this game and the game against the NYG. They went out there and did and played the game and did their jobs……….period.
Everytime I hear a quote from an opposing player they say how muvch talent the Raiders have but they just beat them with that talent so that tells me the talent the Raiders have is not producing………period
because they have a biult-in excuse not to produce. It’s always Al Davis’ fault I couldn’t make that tackle because Mr Davis is the owner. And then on Tuesday they go in to the office and pick up $50,000 check from Mr Davis. And then you listen to sporst center and they tell you the Raiders can’t win because of Mr Davis. That’s crap!! and the sooner the stop that crap the sooner they’ll win whatever they choose to win………period
October 20th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
Are we going to have enough gap discipline to shut down Thomas Jones this weekend?
October 20th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
sounds wike tumbody cwanky again
October 20th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
I don’t know why you guys can’t understand the concept of salaried employees!
Practice ends when the coaches say it ends!
Just like you can’t take your ass home until the boss says so!
Stay after practice? How about longer practices?
How about Tollner and Hackett grabbing JR after practice for a nice weekly Performance Appraisal?
Where the fugg are the WR coaches? How about they stay after practice instead of bouncing?
Cmon! Managers, managers, managers!
October 20th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
Jhill, that is the 64,000$ question. The NYJ are going to run and run and run some more. Pass rush and Blitz and going to help us if we don’t stop that run game……..period
But at least we know our formula now, play great defense and run the football. Now if WE(Cable) deviate from that then it’s our fault. No one else’s give the ball to Frgas and Bush and hit them where it hurts with the pass. Preferably the short pass unless they let us get deep.
October 20th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
Just imagine all those passes to Lawton that went for 1 or 0 yrds Russell is turning into 15 and 20 yrd catches and to think we cut him , when McFadden gets back make him return punts and spread him out he is no everydown back so get the most outta him. Raidersssssssssssssss!
October 20th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
Still wondering why the hell L.Neal and G. Russell were cut ahead freakin Luke Lawton??
Give me a break!
October 20th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
Brien, this isn’t something these guy’s want you publicising on this blog son.
October 20th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
Man Vegas I dont know why.You know that they know certain players play better in diffrent circumstances.No way a team thinks it has all the players it needs.Surley teams covet other team’s players,so I have no idea why there were no trades 2day.I’m always hoping 4 that BLOCK-BUSTER in our favor
October 20th, 2009 at 5:09 pm
Man I sure hope these guys straighten up. This team has its holes but overall its supremely talented.
They played 2 games this year like they actually wanted to play and played Inspired ball – SD & PHI. And they should have won both of them. They straight kicked both teams ass.
The games in between we all were like w-tf happened? Its the players – plain and simple. They have to get it right in their heads. Be committed to winning and do anything to win.
The biggest problem with this team, and you heard Cable allude to it too, is they probably got too used to losing. What if this team gets too used to the feeling of winning? And develop the expectation to win. The rest of the league will know what greatness means. But its up to the players.
October 20th, 2009 at 5:12 pm
Dakota…
Those doors of Al’s are awesome! My wife is an estimator for a door co. I’m going to find out how much those bad boys set Al back for +or-.
I’ll have a quote for you tomorrow…
October 20th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
Fargas and Gallery are leaders, I would think.
October 20th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
Losing becomes a culture and everyone is so used to it they expect it and thats the biggest hurdle to jump. This game is so huge the Jets need a win and 2 W in a row just may start something , screw all this pro this player or that player I’m PRO-RAIDER RAIDERSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!
October 20th, 2009 at 5:14 pm
This team is just so damn talented. You hear too many players around the league say it not to believe it. But they don’t play every Sunday.
I’m just hoping that ZMiller TD run was the spark. After that you can tell Russell calmed down, got a lot more comfortable and started to let the game come to him – driving all the way down the field shortly thereafter.
October 20th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
oh yeah Terrapin…Winning is THEE MOST ADDICTIVE DRUG THERE IS
October 20th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
Any fool with half a brain can see through all this crap!! these guy’s are able to get away with playing half ass football because no one holds them accountable all you idiots do is blame an 80 year old man who can’t block or tackle.
^^^^^^^No….I blame an 80 year old man for being stubborn, egotistical, senile and bitter. I also blame him for not being able to make sound WISE football decisions and for ruining this once proud franchise…..
October 20th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
BlackSunday, that is exactly what I was thinking for DMC and DHB put them fools on teams. And get something out of both of them. DMC could be special as a KR and DHB as a PR it would juice up the teams and get those guy’s some touches.
And then rotate both in the slot and and as WR and HB’s they are essentially the same size. It would give us a lot of explosion on offense.
October 20th, 2009 at 5:16 pm
hahaha…..Raiders football….so easy a caveman can do it! LOL….
October 20th, 2009 at 5:17 pm
I think Louis Murphy is the only leader on offense but its too much for a rookie to burden.
October 20th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
Absolutely Jhill…Fargas is Mr.Commitment To Excellence
October 20th, 2009 at 5:21 pm
Lynn the leader on offense in truth is Fargas and now maybe G Russell and ZM. JRussell is still growing into that role but by years end he’ll be the unquestioned leader if he can engineer a few wins over the next few weeks.
Murphy just hasn’t produced enough and Chazz will lead those two rookies the rest of the year. The offense should start to pick up after the bye week. And by seasons end we should really have something.
October 20th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
It’s the same defense we ran over the last three weeks. We even started the season blitzing T Scott was playiing the same role that the Stork used to play stand up DE/OLB and he blitzed whereever he thought he could get to the QB. It’s all on film. But we’ve been so far behind in games we haven’t had much chnace to do it the way we did it this game. You have to play to your strengths everyone wants blitzes but blitzes don’t necessarily win games, players do.
It worked better this game beause they lost their LT and nwe pverloaded that side. you have to be smart or it could cost you bigtime.
Adios!!
October 20th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
For years the people on this board have been calling for a more varied defense with more blitzing. They were right. We run the Cover 2 and blitz, and we beat one of the best offenses in the NFL. If Al Davis would stop meddling, we could win some games!
October 20th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
Priesttj,perfect and just the analogy I was looking 4 for Scott.Hendricks it is!!!.Man I didnt even think of that this whole time but just think if Scott turns out half as good as the Madd Stork!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 20th, 2009 at 5:46 pm
OMG, can we just quit this thing about Pierce’s comments motivating the Raiders to win Sunday? The Raiders don’t get motivated by ANYTHING! Not as long as they have an owner who treats them like spoiled, rich children and holds them accountable for absolutely nothing. We won for one reason and one reason only: We fooled McNabb by deviating from our usual defensive scheme. Had we ran our usual defense, Phily would have picked us apart, Pierce’s inspiring words noted.
October 20th, 2009 at 5:47 pm
priesttj Says:
October 20th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
It’s the same defense we ran over the last three weeks.
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Cmon, man!
We know we see the occasional blitz from our defense, but this was CLEARLY a different defensive scheme than in past weeks. Different looks on 1st and 2nd down?
I KNOW you heard Cable’s post game talk, and how he said he wanted to change things up from the constant Cover 1.
October 20th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
4eva, did you just compare one of our current players to Ted Hendricks? Wishful thinking, to say the least. That was a complete different Raider franchise ran by a complete different person (Ron Wolf). I’d be happy to just get another Greg Biekert.
October 20th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
JHill,
Add me to the Russell supporters!
Heck, add me to the Al Davis support club provided he let’s John Marshall do his thing!
October 20th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
SNB,
there is no way Al can stop it unless the frickin media antagonize him so much over it, then his fckin ego will get in the way. I am a hard head mofo and I know when I get boxed in I stick to my stubborn ways (even when wrong).
I wish everyone would just nod nod wink wink and dont bring it up. The more the media and analysts bring it up the more Al is boxed and get more stubborn.
October 20th, 2009 at 6:02 pm
At the end of the day, it’s pretty sad that it would take comments from Pierce to challenge the players will to compete, or manhood as you call it.
That motivation should come from players on the team and the coaching staff each and every day of the season.
Pitiful!
October 20th, 2009 at 6:04 pm
Jhill,
I hear ya brother but it is what it is. Hopefully it carries over but I have seen this before and WE WILL SEE.
to me the problem is Cable has done a poor job of getting the O to move the chain. When the O plays so poorly it carries over to the D. Football is an assembly line and if half of the line doesnt carry its weight it will affect the other guys.
Last week was the best Offensive gameplan we had all year based on the talent we have and their abilities (not much)
October 20th, 2009 at 6:06 pm
SNB,
I tell you bro. The best thing Cable and Co. should do is go out to the public and say they are playing Raider Ball…The QB must go down….you know that’s Al’s line. Cable should say his main job on the D is to get to the QB and that is Raider ball. Then Al can have his saving grace and we still get to blitz.
October 20th, 2009 at 6:07 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
hes right, sunday it will go back to the same trash on the field,
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OMG, can we just quit this thing about Pierce’s comments motivating the Raiders to win Sunday? The Raiders don’t get motivated by ANYTHING! Not as long as they have an owner who treats them like spoiled, rich children and holds them accountable for absolutely nothing. We won for one reason and one reason only: We fooled McNabb by deviating from our usual defensive scheme. Had we ran our usual defense, Phily would have picked us apart, Pierce’s inspiring words noted.
October 20th, 2009 at 6:09 pm
Alisgod,
Yeah, I got you on what you about Davis….More importantly I hope he saw the results on the field.
They are still a man 2 man team…just have to mix it up. Thomas Howard was on Sirius this evening. He said they just “sugared” the looks and focused on getting a hat on McNabb….but they still are a man 2 man team.
Actually, Marshall unleashed the DAvis philosophy of speed and athleticism. Marshall had those backers flying all over the field.
Hey Al! Its still your system and your players man….let those coaches work for you!
October 20th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
Great answer by Howard!
Show absolutely NO disrespect to Al’s philosophies if they expect to keep this going!
Of course we are still man to man Al .. wink-wink!
October 20th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
There’s only one Davis quote that holds any relevance anymore. “Just Win Baby”. And nobody needs to pay attention to it more than Al himself.
October 20th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
We have fast LB’s and we should allow them to free roam and blitz at their choosing like Denver does. We have very good man cov db’s but they can only cover for so long. I say man press and fricking send the dogs in.
If you look at CJ, he does a good job of covering the first 3-4 secs but he drops off after that. When they dont get pressure in the first 3-4 secs, then our db’s are exposed in the man cov.
October 20th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
I actually would like to see us mix up the secondary coverages and play primarily zone. when we blitz. I think it’s very risky to have everyone turn their backs while we blitz
October 20th, 2009 at 6:26 pm
AIG,
Post 55 is dead-on. CJ appeared to be struggling prior to this game. Was he being exposed as a subpar or overrated corner, or merely asked to do the impossible. If they’re going to play straight up man and only rush four, that d-line better get there or those corners are hung out to dry. It doesn’t matter if it’s old man Willie or the Judge out there. The reluctance to Blitz and bring more heat prior to Sunday was frustrating. Like everybody else, I loved this more aggressive game plan. You could tell the players did too.
October 20th, 2009 at 6:30 pm
alisgod Says:
October 20th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
We have fast LB’s and we should allow them to free roam and blitz at their choosing like Denver does. We have very good man cov db’s but they can only cover for so long. I say man press and fricking send the dogs in.
If you look at CJ, he does a good job of covering the first 3-4 secs but he drops off after that. When they dont get pressure in the first 3-4 secs, then our db’s are exposed in the man cov.
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Totally agree about bringing more heat. I’m not sure about guys randomly blitzing too much at this point. But I think more called blitzes and stunting of DEs (especially Scott) makes a ton of sense.
Almost every DB can only cover for 4 or 5 seconds before someone comes open. CJ isn’t flawed in that respect.
The reason this whole non-blitzing approach never made sense to me is we usually have good, fast CBs. If you’re confident those guys can lock down receivers for 3-4 seconds just about every time, why not blitz a ton and get to the QB before those receivers have a chance to get open?
October 20th, 2009 at 6:32 pm
Say hello to Gary Russell. All those short passes to the FB and even a throw to Fargas and Bush each and hitting the tight ends. Take what the defense is willing to give and be patient.
There were a lot of lessons learned this week. Let’s hope it sticks!
October 20th, 2009 at 6:38 pm
Chris in NY,
The Raiders don’t have to morph into an all blitzing team. They absolutely have to give the opponent more to think about than that vanilla 4-3 base man 2 man.
The Eagles were shocked more than anything. Probably thought we “cheated” They watch the film in prep and are looking at 40 years of tape showing the same base defense.
Its about giving the opponent more to think about and not simply letting the QB walk to the line and know EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO RUN!
Get the blitz percentage up from 17%….don’t have to go to 50%….but good grief….gotta have a little mystery.
Thomas Howard said “paraphrasing” that a good offense can generally beat a good defense…so a defense has to disguise and shake things up.
October 20th, 2009 at 6:43 pm
The Eagles were shocked more than anything. Probably thought we “cheated”
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LMFAO!
October 20th, 2009 at 6:44 pm
SNB,
Wasnt it nice to see that they can actually pull off the screens and dump offs without looking liek a dentist visit?
October 20th, 2009 at 6:45 pm
You could tell the defenders were energized by the aggressive gameplan. That combined with Pierce questioning their professionalism and manhood. They were flying around out there. I was impressed with the physicality. They really tackled well. I criticized the linebackers, especially Howard for playing soft vs.NYG. Sunday was a different story. That play where Howard sniffed out the screen, and tackled Westbrook for 3 yard loss. He arrived with some authority. That was nice.
October 20th, 2009 at 6:50 pm
jhill Says:
October 20th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
I don’t know why you guys can’t understand the concept of salaried employees!
Practice ends when the coaches say it ends!
Just like you can’t take your ass home until the boss says so!
Stay after practice? How about longer practices?
How about Tollner and Hackett grabbing JR after practice for a nice weekly Performance Appraisal?
Where the fugg are the WR coaches? How about they stay after practice instead of bouncing?
Cmon! Managers, managers, managers!
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Couldn’t agree more. What are they going to do, tell the coaches no?
October 20th, 2009 at 6:50 pm
# alisgod Says:
October 20th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
We have fast LB’s and we should allow them to free roam and blitz at their choosing like Denver does. We have very good man cov db’s but they can only cover for so long. I say man press and fricking send the dogs in.
^^^^^^^We have been saying this damn thing for the last 6 years.
Davis, Ryan, and not Cable and Marshall don’t seem to have the balls to stick with mixing it up on defense from game to game.
The next defensive game plan of attack versus the checks should almost the same thing they did against Philly…..howver there should be more of a focus of keeping 8 in the box, maintaining gap discipline, holding off the edges, and run blitz penetration to STOP the run. The Jets will be trying to run the ball with Jones, Leon and Greene and they will look to keep running the ball ALL day. Marshall needs to also disquise blitz packages to confuse Sanchez and flush him out the pocket to make bad decisions.
They key defensively will be to STOP the run versus the Jets however.
October 20th, 2009 at 6:51 pm
It’s scrolling across the bottom of the screen on BSPN, that young Lance signed a 6yr 14 mil extension at UT. Man I had hoped Urban Meyer was going to drop 75 on him earlier this year.
October 20th, 2009 at 6:57 pm
# SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
October 20th, 2009 at 6:38 pm
Chris in NY,
The Raiders don’t have to morph into an all blitzing team. They absolutely have to give the opponent more to think about than that vanilla 4-3 base man 2 man.
The Eagles were shocked more than anything. Probably thought we “cheated” They watch the film in prep and are looking at 40 years of tape showing the same base defense.
Its about giving the opponent more to think about and not simply letting the QB walk to the line and know EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO RUN!
Get the blitz percentage up from 17%….don’t have to go to 50%….but good grief….gotta have a little mystery.
Thomas Howard said “paraphrasing” that a good offense can generally beat a good defense…so a defense has to disguise and shake things up.
^^^^^^^Exactly….but haven’t we been saying this same crap for the lasy 6 years?
Davis needs to wake the hell up to modern football and Cable and Marshall need to get their balls back as coaches and do whatever it takes to WIN games….despite whatever the hell the old stubborn Al thinks.
October 20th, 2009 at 7:01 pm
im so sick of jerry sayin he has no investment in the raiders. why u gotta keep sayin that? are u ashamed to report on oakland?u do have an investment b i t c h !!!
October 20th, 2009 at 7:02 pm
alisgod Says:
October 20th, 2009 at 6:44 pm
SNB,
Wasnt it nice to see that they can actually pull off the screens and dump offs without looking liek a dentist visit?
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Well, when Lawton was dropping those same passes…everyone dismissed the importance of those throws and continued with their JaMarcus jokes.
Those short throws are examples of taking what the defense gives you. Eventually the defense has to account for it and it opens up the rest of the offense. If nothing else…it helps establish a rhythm for the offense.
The last pass of the game to seal the victory was one of those short passes to Russell.
Keep it up
October 20th, 2009 at 7:02 pm
Another key will be to RATTLE Dirty Sanchez even more than he is now. 5 INTS this past Sunday….he will be nervous against the Raiders and they need to get to him some more….
October 20th, 2009 at 7:04 pm
I also thought Fargas and his violent running style brought a lot of energy to the offense. I don’t know why so many people on this blog are so down on him. I can understand everybody being excited about the potential of D-mac and Bush, wanting to see them get more carries, etc.. But some people wanted to trade Fargas for a bag of sweatsocks. I’ve seen the stats posted about his lack of T.d.’s per carry, and his inability to score. So, let him do the dirty work between the 20’s, crashing into linebackers and safeties, wearing them down. Then utilize Mcfaddens speed in the red zone. As well as Bush’s power at the goal line. The three headed monster can be properly utilized, and I think Fargas brings a lot to this team. More than he’s given credit for.
October 20th, 2009 at 7:12 pm
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October 20th, 2009 at 7:12 pm
dhb runnin those decoy routs musta worked last sunday/
man! the jets gonna run – run – run. sanchez gona throw like 12 times. if raiders get em in 3rd and long. gonna be a long day . and let brandon myers play !! the guys with fight should be in. ..:( braylon edwards gonna be tough. aso betta shut him down …..
October 20th, 2009 at 7:18 pm
u right jhill. how would al even know if we are in man 2 man or not. let some young intern slip him a dang sleepin pill be4 da game.
October 20th, 2009 at 7:23 pm
we better watchout this next game. Yo know the jets are pissed and they gonna come looking for a fight. We better bring our A game. I hope somebody else call them soft again. How about we all pitch in to buy a bill board and say “please dont be a scrimage”
October 20th, 2009 at 7:25 pm
if we win ima go beat uo my ex girlfriends new guy. naw im playin. ima do sumtin crazy tho… maybe incite a riot ..
October 20th, 2009 at 7:25 pm
Anybody see Dilfer coddling young Sanchez today on BSPN. None of the 5 int’s were Marks fault. It was his receivers letting him down. Blah, blah blah. Total NAMBLA member. Even Stink called him out on his man/boy crush on young Sanchez earlier this year.
October 20th, 2009 at 7:29 pm
the titans blog is so funny, they are so apathetic. hey i used a big word.
October 20th, 2009 at 7:30 pm
its sickening to see how they gave all the credits to Sanchize. I swear I thought the guy already made it to the HOF already.
They win on their D and run game. We better stop that run game and not turn the ball over. That is our key to winning this game. Ryan already said he is going to simplify the playbook for Sanchize now. I think the key is watch for that screen pass.
October 20th, 2009 at 7:30 pm
raiders are the best on madden 10 video game. i promise.
October 20th, 2009 at 7:38 pm
# vegas raider Says:
October 20th, 2009 at 6:50 pm
What are they going to do, tell the coaches no?
………
Uh, yes. That’s exactly what they’re going to do, in so many ways.
October 20th, 2009 at 7:50 pm
AIG,
Before the guy had even thrown his first NFL pass, Dilfer was predicting he’d win not one, but two Lombardis within five years. Today on NFL live, while Dilfer was still propping up his boytoy, Hassleback was letting the kid have it. He said the kid looked like he was near tears on the sideline. He contrasted that with Eli’s stoicism during his early struggles. Jamarcus anyone?. Hopefully the Raiders can make him cry on Sunday. But first, they have to take care of business with Thomas Jones and Leon Washington.
October 20th, 2009 at 7:54 pm
Hello Raider Nation!!!!
October 20th, 2009 at 7:55 pm
Hello JediSilver
What’s up my brother!!
October 20th, 2009 at 8:03 pm
Buckeyeraider,
Fargas has a role to play in the offense. However, they still need a running back to step up that can be the GUY! The guy that can rip 4.5 to 5 yds per carry and take it to the house.
We saw it in Bush/DMAC in brief flashes….as for Fargas, I think he is a situational back until he can prove that he can take 20 to 25 carries and turn it into 100+ with a TD or two.
But for now, I’ll take whatever I can get!
October 20th, 2009 at 8:08 pm
Buck,
I can’t stand Dilfer. The guy hitched a ride for a ring and that’s all he has for himself. He sometimes forgot that he was a BUST first rounder. Why he gets any credit as an analyst is beyond me.
Sanchize is a good guy. BUT I hope we do kick his a$$ this Sunday though.
October 20th, 2009 at 8:11 pm
Chris,
The 2nd half of this year is very interesting. We get everyone back. Can we all agree that the spec team returns have been a disaster this year? I can’t wait to get Miller back. Denver won with its spec team yesterday. We need all 3 phases to compete.
October 20th, 2009 at 8:12 pm
One thing I just realized is that the games we lost were to some pretty good teams. Their combined record is 16-7.
The Chargers game could’ve gone either way with us dominating most of that game before coughing it up with a prevent defense, not to mention the refs stole 4 points from us in a 4-point loss. Take that one out of the mix and the combined record of the other three teams is 14-4 and two of those games were on the road for us.
We can all see there are major deficiencies with this Raiders team though. Namely two rookie WRs and a young, largely struggling QB. However, from the beginning I thought we were in the mix as a team that could go anywhere from 6-10 to 10-6. We haven’t been able to hang with the big boys, but we did beat KC and Philly and probably should’ve beat SD. So maybe the Raiders remain in that 6-10/10-6 range.
Getting Schilens back this week with Gallery, McFadden and even Nick Miller (KRs) back in the coming weeks will help us stay in that mix and, who knows, maybe pull a 9-7 mark out of the fire. And 9-7 puts you on the playoffs bubble in most years. We are still only 1 game out of the 6th spot right now.
October 20th, 2009 at 8:14 pm
It seemed like Fargas ran the ball well on Sunday, but I strongly caution against elevating him above Bush and DMac. Take away Fargas’ meaningless 20-yard run on the last play of the 1st half when the Eagles were in Hail Mary prevent and he only averaged 3.0 per carry with 0 TDs in that game.
Sorry, but I’ve seen enough of each of these 3 guys to say that DMC and Bush are clearly better options and truth be told I’d even prefer Gary Russell over Fargas if we had some healthy FBs.
October 20th, 2009 at 8:16 pm
Chris
Your comments are on the money. I would think all of us in Raider Nation would like to see a constant effort that was played last sunday.
When the team continues that trend, the wins will come together and the play of the QB will be a big part of that.
I believe Jamarcus will never be that QB with a high percentage of his passes completed, he just needs to complete the passes when the receivers are open, like Murphy last week for a touchdown. Every receiver will tell a QB or coach they’re open, it’s the receiver that is really open which counts.
October 20th, 2009 at 8:24 pm
Alisgod,
Agreed. JLH is clearly not himself since the injury and the KRs have been embarrassingly tenative as well. Something has to improve on that front.
Routt is a guy who I wish could handle KRs. I know he gets burned from time to time but he’s one of the fastest guys in the league and has explosive quickness as well. He often makes other guys look like they’re in slow motion when he really turns on the jets.
October 20th, 2009 at 8:32 pm
Yweah, the Raiders are always capable of out physicalling their opponents, they just let the refs, or a bad pass, or a turn over take the steam out of them and then they coast. All of those bad things happend to Oakland last game and they pushed thru and won anyway THATS Raider football.
October 20th, 2009 at 8:32 pm
What’s up Nation?!
I hope Cable and the rest of the team listens to the words of Russell…if they play like that the rest of the year, we probably could pull off 5 more wins. Hey, you never know…
October 20th, 2009 at 8:47 pm
Don’t expect many blitzes against the Jets this week.
Sanchez threw five picks last week so expect a lot of check downs to the backs and tight ends. And runs on 1st and 2nd downs.
You should see a ton of Thomas Howard drag down tackles in the flat.
Mixing in a cover 2 on occasion could help add some confusion for Sanchez, but I think just stuffing the run with 8 in the box is their best chance of getting the win.
October 20th, 2009 at 8:49 pm
Russell is right about the effort.
The Raiders need that kind of effort week-in and week-out.
October 20th, 2009 at 8:51 pm
I can’t stress how pivotal this Jets game is for this season. Big difference between 3-4 and 2-5.
The key for the Raiders will come down to two things: JaMarcus and the Run D.
– As far as the Run D, I know Thomas Jones put up some numbers last year and had 200 yards last week, but the guy I’m much more concerned about is Leon Washington. He’s the East Coast answer to Darren Sproles, arguably better. He’s the kind of big-play running threat that has killed the Raiders in recent years. Keep Washington bottled up and this is at minimum a close game.
– As for JaMarcus. He needs protection. Kris Jenkins’ absence is enormous. He would have absolutely demolished Morris, Carlisle or Satele in 1-on-1 battles. With him out the Jets still have some elite defensive players in Darelle Revis, Bart Scott and David Harris. But Jenkins can almost single-handedly crush your running game and can single-handedly collapse the pocket on every pass play against the likes of Morris, Satele and Carlisle. Jenkins out and Schilens back gives our passing game a chance. We throw the ball effectively and we can win this game.
October 20th, 2009 at 8:56 pm
# priesttj Says:
October 20th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
It’s the same defense we ran over the last three weeks. We even started the season blitzing T Scott was playiing the same role that the Stork used to play stand up DE/OLB and he blitzed whereever he thought he could get to the QB. It’s all on film. But we’ve been so far behind in games we haven’t had much chnace to do it the way we did it this game. You have to play to your strengths everyone wants blitzes but blitzes don’t necessarily win games, players do.
It worked better this game beause they lost their LT and nwe pverloaded that side. you have to be smart or it could cost you bigtime.
Adios!!
^^^^^^^^The way Denver has mixed up their blitzes this year is the way the Raiders need to be utilizing their LB’s and Trevor Scott! Marshall needs to take advantage of the explosive athletes he has on defense. Instead of just being a straight up vanilla 4-3 90% percent of the time where they are just reading and reacting.
Stay in ATTACK mode dammit and show different looks….
October 20th, 2009 at 8:56 pm
Jhill, if you think we did anything different than blitz the last three weeks show me. I don’t think you guy’s believe me but we were in cover2 defense against the Giants and the Texans. We also often go into the 3/4, the only that changed is the frequency of the blitzes.
Nnamdi’s to the coach about changing things on the backend ofthe defense took place 3 weeks ago The media found out about it after the win.
The scheme has been changed for 3 weeks now we just finally played it worth a damn. Just look at the film, this week we did blitz a lot more than any game this year. But that was due to the success we had early. Now if we haveth same success all year the blitz all year but we’ve been blitzing with little to no success. So why keep doing it?
October 20th, 2009 at 8:59 pm
Nice to see Marquis Cooper “flying” down field on special teams last Sunday…
RIP…
October 20th, 2009 at 8:59 pm
I know, that is what everyone was referencing “the pidgeon” on Sunday! If that was Cooper reincarnated…welcome back!
RIP Cooper!!! You are truly missed…
October 20th, 2009 at 9:01 pm
As for the blitzing, let me just say this:
I’d rather go out guns blazing and come after Sanchez every chance we get than get picked apart 7-10 yards at a time and totally demoralized.
Stay on the attack, Al, Cable, Marshall or whoever’s in charge out there.
October 20th, 2009 at 9:02 pm
Nnamdi,
That’s just what I was thinking when I was watching that too.
October 20th, 2009 at 9:04 pm
Chris are you serious? picked apart by Sanchez are you frekin kiddin’ me? that damn kid couldn’t pick this secondary apart if his freakin’ life depended on it. They can do whteer they chose t do against this kid his freakin’ confidence is shaken and when he sees the film on this defense he probably crap his pants. Eli had a great game becase he was darn near flawless.
And CJ had his worse game of the year, don’t count on that happening again. Because it wont. This defense shut down the Texans offense in the entire second half. The giants caught us flat and careless. This game against the Eagles was more an indication of what this defense is capable of.
October 20th, 2009 at 9:17 pm
Those doors at AL Davis’ House are fairly easy to duplicate…They’re sand blasted…..1/4″ non tempered glass….. you’ve all seen the adhesive thin plastic lettering for cars and trucks….well there are sheets of thicker adhesive backed rubber that fit a computer driven plotter….but instead of a pen….they use a small blade….you scan a 2 dimensional image into the computer….tell the plotter what size….hit print and the plotter cuts the rubber ….just like signs and lettering…..you cover the image you cut with transfer tape……peel the adhesive backing….apply the rubber to the glass panel…..peel the transfer tape…..then peel out the portion of the image you want etched into the glass from the rubber sheet…..you take it to a very very well ventilated spray booth and lightly sand blast the panen of glass…..peel of the rest of the rubber and Bingo you’re done…..it’s basically the same process and equipment used to make monuments (grave markers)…I ran a business doing it for a while….The trouble with etched glass is keeping it clean….it absorbs the oil from skin and the’re are’n't any really good sealers that won’t discolor the glass…..the only way to clean the etching is with a raw potato…
October 20th, 2009 at 9:18 pm
Hey Priest…
The Raiders did blitz a few times against Houston, and each time it was picked up and Houston got big plays from it.
The first big pass play from Houston happened because of a blitz that was picked up and left the corners 1 on 1 with 1 safety back. Both WR went deep on the play and the CB got beat.
October 20th, 2009 at 9:20 pm
You guy’s don’t always buy into the hype, there are very few QB’s that have the prowess to hurt this secondary. What we dd to the Eagles is not a fluke I don’t give a damn what the experts ssay. This defense can play football when they want to.
Donovan took sacks because those WR’s weren’t OPEN………period Whe this damn kid from Jets drops back and evryone is covered he’s going to try to run and get his head taken off.
The 1st game of th season Rivers was shaken and he was playing very poorly until WE decided to give him room. They changed that defense after that game. And we finally put it all together with pressure Sunday. We stole some of the Ravens Ryans formaions. Remember we never were able to finish under Rob-O Sunday those LB’s finished.
October 20th, 2009 at 9:21 pm
Why are people still referencing Pierce’s comments after the Giants just gave up 48 points in one game? Does anybody still take Pierce seriously or think the Raiders should?
October 20th, 2009 at 9:30 pm
Cable can’t abandon the run lotta Bush& Fargas whats the most car Bush has gotten this year. Glad to Russell taking off and getting the first he needs to do that some everygame pick up easy 1 downs.
October 20th, 2009 at 9:31 pm
Raider 75, that’s what I try to tell these ‘Let’s blitz every down’ fans we don’t have great blitz backers and when you don’t get there you pay. They never notice the blitz when it doesn’t work only when it works. We played this same defense vs the Giants and got killed. Because we never got there, their Oline played much better than the Eagles did.
You got these fans like Kirk who never see the whole picture they just see what they want to see. Blitzing can get you beat quicker than anything. you beter know who you’re blitzing both on their side and our side. Go ahead and blitz Drew Brees and see how fst you give up scores.
But it’s a waste of time trying to tell some of the guy’s they only see things one way. T Scott isfin aly starting to understand tht you can blitz halfheartedly you have to blow up in there andnot run around the blocker but go through him.
October 20th, 2009 at 9:32 pm
What’s the over/under on Crabtree passing DHB in receptions? First Half? First quarter? First drive?
At least DHB still has more rookie catches than Baltimore OT Micheal Oher…and DHB can block too…
October 20th, 2009 at 9:33 pm
Rightnasty …can you not read or are you just stupid????
October 20th, 2009 at 9:33 pm
If you guy’s think Crabtree is going to come into this league and tear it up on that offense you’re crazy………period Their Oline is much worse thn ours.
October 20th, 2009 at 9:35 pm
Even if Crabtree doesn’t tear it up, he’ll still end up with more catches than DHB, who has not shown that he even wants to catch the football.
October 20th, 2009 at 9:37 pm
Priest, Cmon man!
Show you?
Like I said, we’ve seen a few different looks the last 3 weeks on 3rd down, but we have not seen the consisent attacking on 1st and 2nd down. I’ve already deleted those pathetic efforts off of the DVR, so I can’t “show you”, lol! Heck, you can’t even “show” me.
It’s all good though. As long as I see it mixed in this week against the Jets, I’ll be cool. We need to attack on 1st down, even if if the Jets are running the ball. Let the DBs play zone on 1st and 2nd down behind a defense that will get in the backfield in 2 seconds or less. Let Howard and Morrison continue to operate on the other side of the LOS instead of sitting 4 or 5 yds behind the Dline.
October 20th, 2009 at 9:40 pm
It’s not about blitzing every down at all. There were so many times where we just rushed 4 guys this weekend, but there were 6 guys jumping all around the line GIVING DIFFERENT LOOKS!
We have NEVER done that before! Just like Mike Martz said on the coaches show today on NFL Network.
Cmon Priest, WTF?
October 20th, 2009 at 9:44 pm
dhb should be converted to raiderette male cheerleader
October 20th, 2009 at 9:50 pm
I have always figured in frustration, if they are beating your base defense then you may as well gamble and take chances. If your going to get beat then get beat fighting.
October 20th, 2009 at 9:51 pm
Jhill, I’m not a coach so I wont pretend to know when we should do what. Hell I just want to win. Every offense is different and every matchup is different. To say what we should do and when is up to the coaches. I don’t have a clue. I haven’t seen the Jet’s game film, so whatever.
Do whatever it takes to get a win………period
All I know is what I saw and what the players have said and they said they changed the defense 3 weeks ago.
October 20th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
Agreed Northern D.
If you anyone is going to sit here and act like it won’t be a big deal once, not if, but once Crabtree passes DHB in catches after sitting out so long, then that’s just crazy talk. Bay area rookie WR battle will be the lead story next week, and it damn well should be. DHB and the Raiders should absolutely be ashamed at the production, or lack thereof that has come from this kid. There is zero excuse from multiple angles for this kid not having but 2 catches this season. Why has he not been put in the slot and run a few simple slant patterns? Watch that happen for Craps right off the bat. How about a reverse or 2 for DHB and a few fakes also? Not to mention DHB catching the balls that come his way.
Ridiculous!
October 20th, 2009 at 9:56 pm
Speaking of coaches film, why do you think Andy Reid said he was surprised by the defense we played if we have been running it the past 3 weeks? Don’t you think he would have seen it on film?
October 20th, 2009 at 9:58 pm
oakland raiders o line hasny been bad at all this season. if yall think they are bad watch the packers or the lions. or think back when aaron brooks couldnyt drop back 3 yards without gettin hit. raiders o line is good. not at all dominant. but definitely effective. russell gets a lot of time. if hes sacked its all his fault. big dufus just drops back and gets the ball knocked out his hand by some end .
October 20th, 2009 at 10:01 pm
Murphy is on the right track. DHB is taking a while to get there but I believe he will. Louis just has the advantage of coming from a winning school. If you haven’t noticed Murph has dropped plenty his fair share of catches as well. As for Russell I believe alot of pressure has been relieved at least for temporarily. Hopefully he outplays Sanchez who is finally showing his rookie-isms.
October 20th, 2009 at 10:02 pm
Jhill, you’re twisting it, he said he surprised by the pressure(blitzes) not the coverage. I’m not sure whee you live Jhill but we have a show up here in the bay call ‘Chronicle Live’ and they do an excellent job covering the team. All Bay area teams and they hae another show Sportsbayarea. I watch them religiously and on that show after the game they interviewd CJ and he sad that they changed the defense 3 weeks agoo befoe they played the Texans and if you watch the film tere it is. But as for the blitz yes you’re right this would be the first time we blitzed this heavy.
October 20th, 2009 at 10:09 pm
Geting caught up in the DHB, Crabtree matchup at this point is ridiculous IMO. he are rookies for cryin’out loud. Let Crabtree have it. Wha I want is for DHB to develope. And he probably will be more of wha we got from Branch than Tim Brown. But IME Branch was hands down the better player. But for two years Hated playing a home because we boooed him all the time. And how did he turn out? Al Davis even said he wanted to trade Fred Biletnikof because he tought he’d never become a player. So those who overreact to this crap at this point is foolish at best. That’s two HOF’s who had terrible starts to their careers. And we’re supposed to dump DHB after 6 games? Don’t be silly.
October 20th, 2009 at 10:09 pm
al davis says just win baby right? well he shouldnt care how they get there, heck blitz wuteva….
October 20th, 2009 at 10:10 pm
It really doesn’t matter what show you are watching Priest. It’s all good, man.
I’m just trying to tell you what the Martz, Mayock, and Billick are breaking down on these shows. Been seeing these breakdowns of coaches film on the Raiders since the season has started. All of them. DVR’s all of the games off of DirectTV and have been back and forth with the slowmo features trying to figure out what the problem has been.
And without question, our LB have NOT been lining up on the LOS like the did this weekend. Our LBs have NOT been spying the back out of the backfield like they did this weekend.
Or let me say this. If they have been TRYING to do this the last 3 weeks, they have not been doing a good job of being in position. If it all came together this week, then it is what it is.
More than likely, on the homer show you are talking about, CJ is doing the smart thing of not showing the owner up. I think it’s really smart of him to use that tactic, lol!
October 20th, 2009 at 10:15 pm
I like Cable, but I still want him fired! He is not a HC, and he can NOT call plays!
October 20th, 2009 at 10:16 pm
dorian,
i agree with you on 2006. That has to be the worst Raiders team offense ever. The worst D was 1997 under Bugel.
October 20th, 2009 at 10:16 pm
Dump him?
Hell no after he cashed that check!
But I do say DEVELOP him. Sit him down and take the pressure off of him and put him in the slot. Run a reverse or WR screen for the kid from different places on the field.
Do SOMETHING instead of just sticking him on one side and asking him to run vertical patterns with sight adjustments based on coverage. That’s not what I call developing the WRs.
October 20th, 2009 at 10:18 pm
Cable is a good Man, he is trying, and talking to players from winning teams to see what he can learn. I like that a lot, but he lacks exp. I also thought he can Motivate the players, but I have only seen them motivated twice this season ( chargers & eagles).
I like Cable better as our Oline Coach, and as an Assistant HC.
October 20th, 2009 at 10:22 pm
Jhill do you understand the difference between a front and a coverageit’s two very different things. You’re talking about the front and I’m talking about the COVERAGE. I keep telling you tha you’re right if you’re talking about pressure or the front.
Do you remember the blown coverages by CJ, well maye they weren’t blown after all if we were in zone which I think we were. That’s what I’m talking about.
October 20th, 2009 at 10:23 pm
Even Sista who doesn’t know squat about football, stumbled over what I was trying to say. I wasn’t saying we’ve been blitzing for 3 weeks I said the COVERAGE was changed 3 weeks ago. CJ plays in the secondary. That’s what Nnamdi was alluding to when he said he talked to Marshall and Marshall said h’d keep calling it. We went from heavy man to a lot of zone.
And Jhill is focused on the front7.
October 20th, 2009 at 10:24 pm
And Marshall is going to catch hell from AL for “pressure” from those blitz’s but you wont talk about that will you priest the weasel? Fraud!
# priesttj Says:
October 20th, 2009 at 9:20 pm
And we finally put it all together with pressure Sunday. We stole some of the Ravens Ryans formaions. Remember we never were able to finish under Rob-O Sunday those LB’s finished.
October 20th, 2009 at 10:25 pm
Well said.
priesttj Says:
October 20th, 2009 at 9:51 pm
I don’t have a clue.
October 20th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
Geez Tom, you couldn’t watch film and see this on your own? Tool!
“Coach Tom Cable came to me because I was in Pittsburgh and we won a Super Bowl …so he came to me asking me what’s the difference between here (Oakland) and Pittsburgh and I was like ‘man y’all got a lot more talent than we had in Pittsburgh, but talent doesn’t win game,’ ” Russell said. “And we started breaking it down and I told him that if the guys can get in there and throw their bodies on the line very play we could have a great team.”
October 20th, 2009 at 10:32 pm
Sista if you get any dumber you’ll need serious professional help. That short bus must’ve been great fun growing up.
October 20th, 2009 at 10:32 pm
Priest is it AL’s job to yell at the DC if he uses blitz’s? Any fool with half a brain would know AL is holding back the team & the coaches. I hope Marshall shows Al his a$$ again Sunday and we put Sanchez into the ground hard & often.
Priest, any time you want to wake up and join the rest of the world and acknowledge whats going it would be a huge step in the right direction for you.
priesttj Says:
October 20th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
Dakota, exactly what kind of hick are you? can’t you read, if russell is telling Cable that the Raiders are more talented than the Steelers then Al Davis has done his job. It’s up to the players to play football and stop using him as an excuse NOT TO!!
Any fool with half a brain can see through all this crap!! these guy’s are able to get away with playing half ass football because no one holds them accountable all you idiots do is blame an 80 year old man who can’t block or tackle. What was the difference between this game and the game against the NYG. They went out there and did and played the game and did their jobs……….period.
October 20th, 2009 at 10:35 pm
If Marshall shows AL his a$$ we will murder the Jets, at least on Defense. JaMarshmallow will keep them in the game, unfortunately.
October 20th, 2009 at 10:35 pm
They were not in a zone coverage on the Manningham TD or the bog plays to Johnson in the Houston game. They were in man coverage and CJ was just a bit aggressive. Turned his head looking for the pick and guessed wrong. Just too aggressive, and it looks like he’s calmed that down.
October 20th, 2009 at 10:37 pm
Your right on the big play to #80 but in the Giants game he looked into the backfield which he NEVER does and I was shocked. I think he was anticipating help over th top. I don’t know for sure. But after that game the said there were blown coverages in the zones. And then after the Eagles game CJ said tht the had been plying that defense for 3 weeks. I’m just telling you what I saw ad heard………..period
So don’t get mad at me!!! that’s what the player said.
October 20th, 2009 at 10:42 pm
CJ needs to be more disciplined in his cov. He hsould only turn his head when the receiver turns his head. That is the one thing that has gotten CJ in a lot of trouble this year. He is a fine cover man in general. We can shut down anyone with CJ and 21 so long as we bring heat to the QB.
October 20th, 2009 at 10:42 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 20th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
There’s only one Davis quote that holds any relevance anymore. “Just Win Baby”. And nobody needs to pay attention to it more than Al himself.
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LMFAO..you peanut..that is NOT AL DAVIS’S QUOTE.
Phil Villipiano said that, NOT AL.
I have faith, at some point, you’ll actually say something correct.
October 20th, 2009 at 10:42 pm
Priest do you know the difference,,,between yourass and a hole in the ground???…I thought not…..hilarious, a blowhard, pompous, nitwit preaching as if you were somehow knowledgable offootball…give it up..you’re heads so far up Herrara’s patoot you haven’t seen sunshine since before Al Davis needed Viagra.
October 20th, 2009 at 10:45 pm
That’s a bit Crude Earl!!?
October 20th, 2009 at 10:48 pm
You want to test my football knowledge Earl??
I’m your huckleberry!
October 20th, 2009 at 10:48 pm
By the way these local networks do a much more concentrated and comprehensive coverage of the Raiders than anyone could possibly ask for national. They had Tom Flores on last night and it was very interesting. The NFLN can’t touch it.
And it’s not homerism crap it’s very well done.
October 20th, 2009 at 10:49 pm
LMfao, nothing like seeing Rackochyt claimiing to know more Raider knowledge than Mrs.
I thought I saw it all.
October 20th, 2009 at 10:59 pm
Mrs. Where you at? come and defend yourself. lmao.
October 20th, 2009 at 11:00 pm
The biggest problem with DHB is his “WANT TO.”
When the ball is in the air, you want a WR who thinks the ball is his. A player who will snatch it out of the air. The great receivers all have that desire to make the play. Or as Keyshawn Johnson wrote, ” Just give me the damn ball.”
I don’t see that with DHB. He lets the ball come to him and get in on his body. Jamarcus throws too hard to catch it off the body, and it’ll bounce off. He said in camp he wished he could “red-shirt” his first year. Could you picture Micheal Irvin saying that?
DHB is a PROJECT.
He has the physical skills to be great, but has never produced to that level. Does he mentally have what it takes? Time will tell.
But comparing him to Brown, Biletnikoff and Branch is like comparing apples to oranges. Those three were productive in college and were polished coming into the pros. If you want to compare DHB to someone, look at Jerry Porter. He was very raw, but physically talented coming out of school. And they reached for him with a 2nd round pick, not the 7th pick overall.
October 20th, 2009 at 11:08 pm
NorthernD, tha is not true at all. Only Fred was more polished. Tim and Cliff were both very rough and look how they both turned out. Cliff couldn’t catch a cold for two YEARS and even Fred struggled mightily.
At this point DHB is better than all 3 of them IMO. Tim had an experienced QB so he had better #’s but he was essentially a ST’s player a KandP/R. He had41 catches based on the way the used him in the slot kind of like we’re begging Cable to use DHB.
October 20th, 2009 at 11:10 pm
priest
Tim was a much more polished receiver coming out of college. He won the Heisman if I recall. DHB is no where near him bro. DHB cant catch. We all know that. He has to develop that hopefully soon.
October 20th, 2009 at 11:15 pm
Tim Brown didn’t win the heisma as a WR he won it as a football player.Special teams, HB, RB, WR all over the field, as a WR he was very mediocre……..period
October 20th, 2009 at 11:16 pm
Brown won the heisman in college. Don’t forget he also blew out his knee his first or second year and he had to rehab from that.
I can’t recall Branch’s numbers in college, so I’ll give you that.
As for DHB being better at this point? 2 Catches???
October 20th, 2009 at 11:19 pm
Cable is right about JR when he says JR is afraid to cut it loose. That means throw the ball to the receiver and let them fight for it or adjust to it. You see all the big time QB’s in this league throw behind their guy all the time and let them adjust to it.
The problem is quite frankly we dont have any quality receiver on this team. Watkins, Murphy, DHB would never start on any other team. We dont have a choice but wait for Chaz. JLH can catch but he is one weird dude.
October 20th, 2009 at 11:20 pm
Mistabrown Says:
October 20th, 2009 at 10:39 pm
Can you force yourself to say AL is FKN up this team by dictating to the coaches what scheme and who plays?
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Wow. Al is fkn up the team. This missus brown fan must be some type of uber super genius. Where did she find such uber super knowledge?? Does she also know that Al actually OWNS the team, and can do what the fook he wants with it?? Or does she not remember that SHE is the one that wants government out of her life, but some how she wants to control Al’s life. Would someone explain missus browns brain to me???
October 20th, 2009 at 11:23 pm
Priest,
Before you post more balogna explain why you have no problem with AL yelling at Marshall for calling his own defense, thanks in advance.
October 20th, 2009 at 11:23 pm
READ my post #150 which is way out of sequence.
October 20th, 2009 at 11:25 pm
Priest, your left tit has arrived. He cant wait to respond to my post. Put a leash on your little mut priest before she gets neutered.
October 20th, 2009 at 11:29 pm
Oak, that would win a Rhodes Scholar explaining that dumbells brain.
October 20th, 2009 at 11:29 pm
Priest, your ok with Marshall fearing AL will yell at him for calling his own defense. Thats good to know!
October 20th, 2009 at 11:30 pm
Priest can you repeat your earlier post I just want to be clear on this…DHB will be better than Tim Brown & Cliff Branch, is that what you said ?
October 20th, 2009 at 11:32 pm
priesttj Says:
October 20th, 2009 at 10:09 pm
Geting caught up in the DHB, Crabtree matchup at this point is ridiculous IMO. he are rookies for cryin’out loud. Let Crabtree have it. Wha I want is for DHB to develope. And he probably will be more of wha we got from Branch than Tim Brown. But IME Branch was hands down the better player. But for two years Hated playing a home because we boooed him all the time. And how did he turn out? And we’re supposed to dump DHB after 6 games? Don’t be silly.
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Catching TWO BALLS in 6 games ISN’T developing. how in the hell, in any way shape or form, is that developing?
And blah blah blah…”so and so” turned out in the NFL, so don’t write off “so and so”.
For every signing that stumbled, then succeeded, there are 50 that stumbled, collapsed, and never got up again.
Oh..and of those 50 that crashed and burned, forever more? There was some slow “fan” who stated exactly what you just did about Bey.
Reminds me of my very first post in these parts..”HOW DAMN STUPID WAS THE RAIDERS TO PASS ON CRABTREE FOR BEY??
It appears the answer to that is “very”.
October 20th, 2009 at 11:35 pm
alisgod Says:
October 20th, 2009 at 11:19 pm
Cable is right about JR when he says JR is afraid to cut it loose. That means throw the ball to the receiver and let them fight for it or adjust to it. You see all the big time QB’s in this league throw behind their guy all the time and let them adjust to it.
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WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? “all the big time qb’s throw BEHIND their guy”??
WHAT?? No, idiot…all the big time qb’s LEAD THEIR GUY.
You throw behind your guy, and you set him up to get killed. You know..BEHIND THE RECEIVER IS USUALLY THE DEFENDER…TRAILING??
you’re an idiot.
October 20th, 2009 at 11:38 pm
richochet,
you’re right. YOu know so much that you have to CUT, EDIT, PASTE AND feel good about yourself. Bro you are the best. Better than all the rest….feel better… now go and cut, paste, edit, and repost some more….
October 20th, 2009 at 11:42 pm
alisgod Says:
October 20th, 2009 at 10:49 pm
LMfao, nothing like seeing Rackochyt claimiing to know more Raider knowledge than Mrs.
I thought I saw it all.
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I know more about the Raiders than 95%..probably more..of the posters here.
98% of you know that.
Prove me wrong.
ANYONE IS MORE THAN WELCOME TO CHALLENGE ME..you won’t, very likely because you already have, and wisely decided it wasn’t your best move.
Oh..and now is when the dweebs, worms, and wanna-bees state how they COULD school me..”if they wanted to” or “I already did, but choose not to..again”..which is right on line with ‘wave white flag, fall in fetal position” that so many of you have perfected.
October 20th, 2009 at 11:50 pm
oh Rikkdy Bobby,
btw, since you have so much Raider knowledge….can you find me the source that backed up your claim of Phil V as the creator of the Just Win Baby slogan.
For some reason,I found this.
richochet,
you are so good with your knowledge that I wanted to back you up on your claim….
“The Raiders’ bully image of the 1970s and 1980s are attributed directly to Davis, who has often said he’d rather be feared than respected. Slogans such as “Just Win, Baby,” “Pride and Poise,” and “Commitment to Excellence” are Raider/Davis trademarks. “Don’t be afraid of failure,” said Davis, who was inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1992. “Don’t worry about mistakes. Just win.”
http://espn.go.com/classic/biography/s/Davis_Al.html
you’re right. That slogan was from Phil. You’re right. so right. The best and better than all the rest!!!!
October 20th, 2009 at 11:55 pm
# Nnamdi21 Says:
October 20th, 2009 at 8:59 pm
Nice to see Marquis Cooper “flying” down field on special teams last Sunday…
RIP…
^^^^^^^Yeah perhaps Coopers spirit was with the pigeon helping out his teammates on special teams….get a win!
RIP Coop…
October 20th, 2009 at 11:55 pm
Rackolambs,
I guess you never heard of back shoulder and jump ball either do you. But you are the best though rakolambs….better than all the rest…now go cut, edit, and paste yourself…..
How was it waiting for 2 weeks after a blow out by your SB bound Niners?
good nite nation.
October 21st, 2009 at 12:01 am
vegas raider Says:
October 20th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
No trades??? Grew some balls you spineless owners!!!
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“Grow” some balls…
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# 4evaRaider Says:
October 20th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
a 215 pound FB in 2days game.Who woulda thunk it???
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Today’s game? I think you mean Sunday’s game… today is Tuesday
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# vegas raider Says:
October 20th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
4eva, LOL, if I could I would have, action junky I am (Go Angels today!!!). Kind of ticks me off no trades ever in the NFL. Why not?
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“no trades ever”… no trades ever what?
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priesttj Says:
October 20th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
…Pass rush and Blitz and going to help us if we don’t stop that run game…
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Wait, what?
October 21st, 2009 at 12:02 am
alisgod Says:
October 20th, 2009 at 11:50 pm
oh Rikkdy Bobby,
btw, since you have so much Raider knowledge….can you find me the source that backed up your claim of Phil V as the creator of the Just Win Baby slogan.
For some reason,I found this.
richochet,
you are so good with your knowledge that I wanted to back you up on your claim….
“The Raiders’ bully image of the 1970s and 1980s are attributed directly to Davis, who has often said he’d rather be feared than respected. Slogans such as “Just Win, Baby,” “Pride and Poise,” and “Commitment to Excellence” are Raider/Davis trademarks. “Don’t be afraid of failure,” said Davis, who was inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1992. “Don’t worry about mistakes. Just win.”
http://espn.go.com/classic/biography/s/Davis_Al.html
you’re right. That slogan was from Phil. You’re right. so right. The best and better than all the rest!!!!
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LMAO..go do some more homework, moron.
Then come back and apologize for being as I already stated you are, a tool.
Let me help you, so you can then say “Oh..my bad”.
After Snake and others were seen wandering drunk through the streets of New Orleans, night before a game, Al was asked about his players. Al replied, “As long as they win”
Raiders did win..and it was Phil Villipiano who yelled out “JUST WIN, BABY”
Now..quick..go check..then hit yourself between the eyes with your Barbie doll.
October 21st, 2009 at 12:10 am
# Chris in NY Says:
October 20th, 2009 at 9:01 pm
As for the blitzing, let me just say this:
I’d rather go out guns blazing and come after Sanchez every chance we get than get picked apart 7-10 yards at a time and totally demoralized.
Stay on the attack, Al, Cable, Marshall or whoever’s in charge out there.
^^^^^^^Exactly or disguise blitzes to confuse Sanchez….and when they do blitz, cover his short hot reads…namely Leon Washington and Jones out of the backfield as WR’s
October 21st, 2009 at 12:11 am
BTW…LMFAO at you, Al-is-GowdAwful..
Mike Puma? You read something from Puma, and use that as your source?? DUMBASS..
Everyone on any Raiders board knows..on many of them they were, much to their chagrin, schooled by yours truly. Story varies on when he stated “Just win” or “just win, be right” but it was Villipiano, NOT AL.
Now, get to bed..school comes early.
October 21st, 2009 at 12:28 am
Rite again rikkie bobbie,
Nobody knows as much as you so I am sure you are the only one that knows that….you are the best….better than all the rest…now go to bed and enjoy knowing that you are the best…better than all the rest.
October 21st, 2009 at 12:33 am
Richochet, I have Super Bowl 18 on tape and Al says “Just Win Baby” in the locker room, that’s where I got the idea that he invented the phrase. I was wrong. I’ll take your word for it that Villapiano said it. You do realize there’s probably like 10 people in the country who realize Villapiano coined that phrase? That’s pretty good. I mean, there’s nothing nerdy at all about knowing THAT much about the history of various NFL quotes. I’m sure they have to just fight the women off of you with a stick when you start talking football at bars.
October 21st, 2009 at 2:33 am
Jerry, Jerry, Jerry….
I loved your response regarding David White! You just have to make sure that you respond with correct spelling!
Is that why you are not on with Greg Papa? I’ve always thought that you should be on CSN, instead of an SF beat writer, named David White. Can you not spell? Is that it? YOU COVER THE RAIDERS FOR THE OAKLAND PAPER!!!!
Why is an SF clown getting all the TV time on CSN???
October 21st, 2009 at 4:27 am
Good morning Nation the only Nation.
Interesting take on Mr Fargas, i must say i’am in total aggreement. We need players with heart, players that want to earn there keep. Players i heard so much about from our old teams, you know the players that just want to work and hurt you while they do it hahahaha.
Yes, I said it Justin Fargas is the heart and soul of the Raiders offense. He leads by example with determination and intensity.
What was it that helped the Raiders offense to there 1st 300 plus yard game since playing the Chargers in the Monday Night opener? It wasn’t some young talented player who just joined the Raiders or anything new at all. It is something that the Raiders have had for years. The relentless running style of Justin Fargas.
During the off-season alot of fans debated whether we should start Darren Mcadden or Michael Bush.
What about Justin Fargas?
After Sundays performance against the Eagles all I have to say is: Darren who? Michael who?
Right now I want Justin Fargas. Not only has Fargas earned the right to carry the load by being the only Raider runner with a 1000+ yard season and two “Commitment to Excellence Awards.” But he has just shown us why he still deserves to carry the load with his recent performance and determination.
What better way to establish dominance and inspire an offense than by watching defenders slow to get up or hobbling to the sideline after being involved in a Justin Fargas collision.
Fargas doesn’t even need the ball to punish defenders as apparent by the brutal block he put on Victor Abiamiri in a blitz pickup. Victor didn’t return to the game and the block allowed Russell to get the ball to Gary Russell for a first down.
Prior to that Fargas’s brutal running style resulted in Asante Samuel leaving the game after attempting to tackle Fargas on an 11 yard swing pass.
Not only did Fargas show his worth with hard running but he quieted his critics not only running inside but succeeding outside as well. When the o-line can seal the edge for Fargas to get outside expect a long day and plenty of aspirin for apposing DBs.
Justin Fargas is the Raiders best running back. Who cares if he isn’t the biggest or the fastest he is the best because his effort and determination are un-matched.
October 21st, 2009 at 5:20 am
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October 21st, 2009 at 5:52 am
# priesttj Says:
October 20th, 2009 at 5:26 pm
It’s the same defense we ran over the last three weeks. We even started the season blitzing T Scott was playiing the same role that the Stork used to play stand up DE/OLB and he blitzed whereever he thought he could get to the QB. It’s all on film. But we’ve been so far behind in games we haven’t had much chnace to do it the way we did it this game. You have to play to your strengths everyone wants blitzes but blitzes don’t necessarily win games, players do.
It worked better this game beause they lost their LT and nwe pverloaded that side. you have to be smart or it could cost you bigtime.
Adios!!
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Wrong, Peters would have made no difference…
Part of the success was also the element of surprise.. Let’s be honest here… The Eagles game planned around the same 4 man rush/Man 1 cover all week and never ever expected a blitz/zone look from this D…
Either way, you HAVE to generate pressure… The Raiders have NOT been able to do that consistently with their front 4 forever…
October 21st, 2009 at 5:58 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
October 21st, 2009 at 6:01 am
We can get pressure with our front 4, but teams usually start the screen passing, getting the ball to the RB in the flat. When you play man and the WR’s run deep routes, that leaves you’re LB 1on 1 with the running back. 1 juke move and he has a lot of running room before our DB’s even know what happend.
October 21st, 2009 at 6:03 am
Good Morning NATION!!!
October 21st, 2009 at 6:08 am
Hwnrdr…
I see you were on da blog last night!!!
October 21st, 2009 at 6:09 am
Then after you’re DB’s figure that out they start looking in the backfield and getting beat over the top. They all need to mind there responsabilities and trust eachother. Yes a blitz here or there wont hurt haha.
October 21st, 2009 at 6:09 am
GOODMORNING SPORT’S FAN’S,HWNDR,4EVA,R8DR4LFE21,
October 21st, 2009 at 6:17 am
Good Morning 4eva, Dirt Lot, R8dr4lfe21…
Yes I was, 4eva…interesting conversation last night…
October 21st, 2009 at 6:20 am
Good morning dirt lot, 4eva, and all the raider nation.
Good morning to Jmac who is at yum yum’s picking up his morning bearclaw lol. So are we in aggreement that fargas has to be the vocal leader o this team, i mean him and gallery have been here the longest. They should be tired of losing by now, what do you think?
October 21st, 2009 at 6:26 am
Hey, you know what…? Someone’s got to step up! Aso too, he’s been here Callahan’s last year, right?
October 21st, 2009 at 6:27 am
Soo…that WAS Marquis Cooper on the KO team!!!
October 21st, 2009 at 6:33 am
Haha! You know what? That pidgeon was on the field all day. The funny thing was, that whenever the special teams were out there…that pidgeon would line up and fly with them. Kind of like guiding them to the right spot. It’s whether you believe in life after death or not, but everyone was referencing Marquis Cooper as that pidgeon. Maybe, just for a day, his spirit was with all of us at the Coliseum!!! RIP!
October 21st, 2009 at 6:36 am
I think that the crowds booing of Russell after our first 3 and out was frustration from the fans over the last 3 weeks. Soon thereafter, he threw the pass (while under pressure) and Zach Miller and Louis Murphy did the rest for 86 yeards!
You may be right on Nnamdi, because I remember being sick everytime he was out there. But…that is why I had learned patience with this team. Look now…he turned out to be the most respected CB in the game today!
October 21st, 2009 at 6:37 am
Fargas has heart but still can’t score mix him and Bush up but what would help the run game would be just a little success from the Wr crew , how can dhb be ahead of T.brown at this point 2 rec come on thats silly . Hope the D plays like this all year. GO RAIDERSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!
October 21st, 2009 at 6:38 am
I think Nnamdi is reluctant too be a vocal leader cause of the way we treated him when he did suck. So maybe he is just a silent leader. The way he is taking Huff under his wings and teaching him is working wonders, you have to have the want. Just like Nnamdi had the want when he whent to Rod Woodson for help. I still do not understand what the hell Chris Johnson is doing being mentored by Deon Sanders, name me 5 players that he has mentored that are any good. This team needs to stick together.
Fargas can be a vocal leader but we bash him so much he is more likely just to prove himself to his coaches then to his teamates or to us.
Thats why support for this team is a huge positive. I heard the crowd on our first 3 and out they booed Jmac and the offense. Then we score and it’s all cherry pie not a good mentality to instill in our players. they need to know we back them for better or for worse. In fact it is kinda like we are married to this team right?
October 21st, 2009 at 6:40 am
NO ACCOUNTABILITY ON THIS TEAM.NO,MR. RUSSELL HAS NOT DEVELOPED WITH THE SPEED WE ALL HOPED.I HAVE YET TO SEE ANYONE HELP HIM UP WHEN HE IS SACK’D, SEEM’S THE O-LINEMAN COULD GIVE THE GUY A HAND AND SAY “MY BAD” WILL NOT HAPPEN AGAIN..SMALL THING’S BUILD A TEAM,THIS ONE NEED’S TO START SOMEWHERE. 53 INDIVIDUEL’S , NOT ONE 53 MAN TEAM
October 21st, 2009 at 6:42 am
HEY ROCKSTAR,GOOD DAY TO YOU OLD FRIEND,DID I READ U GOT YOUR PROMOTION AT WORK ?
October 21st, 2009 at 6:45 am
Growing pains can give way to good football.
If he busts, congrats, you’re right. What’s the alternative?
Start over again? Draft another one. Get a vet? Start Gradkowski?
I’d prefer to let the season pan out with him at QB.
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LA to TheBay: thats the problem. for the second year in a row with Russell starting, he has no capable backup. What happens if he gets injured? What happens if he has 10 turnovers and only 2 TD’s in his next 6 games (like the first six…)? I want the Raiders to win and I just don’t see Russell leading this team to the playoffs EVER. I’m loyal to the team, not 1 player who hasn’t proven his worth.
I want Russell to prove me wrong. I just don’t think he has what it takes. there are 100 strong armed QB’s in the league. It takes more than a strong arm to win football games. the trade deadline has passed and there aren’t any decent vet QB’s in free agency. However, playing Gradkowski, Frye or Southwick might give us just as good of a chance to win, if not better. They aren’t cream of the crop and might not even make another club as 3rd string QB’s, but compared to Russell they might still be an improvement.
October 21st, 2009 at 6:49 am
Chris Johnson thinks he is better then he really is.
Just like Phillip Buhcannon, just like Crabtree. There worth is on the field not in the media. Johnson does not need a bad influence like i believe Deon to be, as a player he was great but that was physical not mental. Just like Charles woodson, other players like Nnamdi need that fil study they need repetition. Not all corners can be Deon they need to stop thinking they are and put in the hard work…
October 21st, 2009 at 6:50 am
I still do not understand what the hell Chris Johnson is doing being mentored by Deon Sanders, name me 5 players that he has mentored that are any good.
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CJ is an excellent football player. He credits Prime Time for his development. I don’t see any problem with that. At least he is taking steps toward improving his game in the offseason – JaMarcus should have done that the past 2 years.
October 21st, 2009 at 6:53 am
Dirt Lot: yeah man, I’ve been busy lately
I still try to read all Jerry Mac articles and chime in every so often when I get a break in the day
the AM crew looks alive & well
Gabby, get these boys some coffee!
October 21st, 2009 at 6:53 am
I agree Rockstar!!!
Wasn’t JaMarcus at the Manning QB camp 3 years ago?
October 21st, 2009 at 6:58 am
How many seasons does Johnson have under his belt compared Jmac. We dont know what Jmac does in the offseason, i know he had a QB camp that DHB couldnt attend cause of contractual obligations or lack there of. We know that Chris Johnson has regressed this offseason instead of getting better he is now getting burnt “show me the money”. I also know that Route plays better on the outside then he does in the slot. Wasnt it Johnson who got demoted in training camp.
October 21st, 2009 at 7:02 am
GOOD 2 HEAR ROCKSTAR,SO IS QUALITY BACK-UP OB A PRIORITY, OR ONE OF MANY OTHER HOLES ?
October 21st, 2009 at 7:08 am
exla i will take you up on that offer.
October 21st, 2009 at 7:11 am
Coffee is on me this morning!
October 21st, 2009 at 7:13 am
1. Wasn’t JaMarcus at the Manning QB camp 3 years ago?
2. SO IS QUALITY BACK-UP OB A PRIORITY, OR ONE OF MANY OTHER HOLES ?
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1. I know he was at one time. not sure how long ago
2. I think we need somebody who is willing to show Russell the ropes. Somebody who is a Hackett/Tollner system fit. If Gradkowski, Frye or Southwick can be that guy then so be it. Walter & Tui were awful. I haven’t seen enough of the new guys to judge.
Kyle Orton isn’t the most talented QB in the league, but he’s a great system fit in Denver and he takes what the defense gives him. he’s a game manager. he gets the job done. no glaring stats, just wins.
October 21st, 2009 at 7:22 am
Wow. Last night Priest had at least 50 posts using this template:
“Blah, blah, blah, … patience… blah, blah, blah…Branch, Freddy… blah, blah, blah … PERIOD”
If I had a nickle for every “period” that guy uses…
October 21st, 2009 at 7:23 am
*************Football Gurus**************************
Could some football guru out there tell me what makes man to man defense so much better than zone in the NFL?
It seems like man to man gives you a number of opportunities to get beat unless you keep applying constant pressure.
October 21st, 2009 at 7:23 am
Southwick IS that guy RRS. But he won’t be limited to “quality backup” for long…period.
October 21st, 2009 at 7:24 am
Then there is the player that is told he is the best and believes it without the hard work or work ethic, Leaf, Marinovich, Bozworth, ect, ect, ect.
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r8dr4lfe21: congrats! you just described our franchise QB
Tom Cable even he says “Russell needs to put the work in” then a few weeks later “he’ll only be as good as he wants to be. it’s up to him. he has to take it upon himself and want to improve” -(paraphrasing of course)
October 21st, 2009 at 7:25 am
I dont think teams have holes in positions. No team has a great player in every spot, it’s the grunts we need, the hard working bring you’re lunch to work type of guys. You know like Fargas, get you’re hands dirty stick you’re nose in there and block the blitzing LB.
Every team has a great player in 1 position or another but not every team has workers, lots of teams have pre madonnas players who think there better then they are so they dont work as hard.
Great players are great for there hard work and attention to detail. Players who are told there great dont work as hard or as long. Kobe Bryant great player 1 of the best, hardest working man on the whole damn team relentless in his approach to be the best. John stockton not so good physically but hardest working point guard i ever saw, also relentless in his approach. Then there is the player that is told he is the best and believes it without the hard work or work ethic, Leaf, Marinovich, Bozworth, ect, ect, ect. Another hard working mediocre type player that i believe belongs in the HOF reguardless of our hatred for him Terrell Davis dude was great.
October 21st, 2009 at 7:28 am
CJ tackles a lot better than Routt or DHall.
October 21st, 2009 at 7:29 am
Russell, Gradkowski or Frye running the Raiders offense is like Jimmy Carter, James Buchanan or Lyndon B. Johnson running this country – a disaster!
BSJ: Danny Southwick has to be the guy by default, unless D-Smooth gets busted for breaking Hanson’s jaw …
October 21st, 2009 at 7:30 am
I actually think Russel is going to be a better QB then he is today. I also think over the off season he is going to be in better physical condition. I think he is just one of those guys with all the QB gifts but he needs to mature into his role. His problem is not IQ his problem is confidence and veteran WRs. When in rhythm he can make a throw. It amazes me that he can always find Zach Miller on the field. Hopefully, with Chaz back, Russel at RB he can have some luck. I also think inserting Myers TE and Miller can help out with the underneath stuff.
October 21st, 2009 at 7:31 am
Wasnt it quoted about Johnson saying “Deon told me to be carefull tackling” cause thats not something they do. I think that is the wrong message to send to a protege. The more you do the more value you have for you’re team and teamates, i congradulate Johnson he had a decent game i’am proud of the whole team always. Win lose or tie raider till i die.
P.S. great stick on the RB coming out on that screen pass.
October 21st, 2009 at 7:31 am
CJ Legend 34 Says:
October 21st, 2009 at 7:23 am
*************Football Gurus**************************
Could some football guru out there tell me what makes man to man defense so much better than zone in the NFL?
It seems like man to man gives you a number of opportunities to get beat unless you keep applying constant pressure.
October 21st, 2009 at 7:33 am
priesttj Says:
October 20th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
Dakota, exactly what kind of hick are you? can’t you read, if russell is telling Cable that the Raiders are more talented than the Steelers then Al Davis has done his job. It’s up to the players to play football and stop using him as an excuse NOT TO!!
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We do have some talent, that is why I want a HC with a friggin clue you moron.
October 21st, 2009 at 7:34 am
RR good morning dude! DO you really think that? I agree about Nnamdi but CJ as well? I am not doubting it just never thought about it. I guess since I thought about it with Nanamdi and Hall and well you know how that played out.
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RaiderRockstar Says:
October 21st, 2009 at 7:36 am
CJ is our second best corner PERIOD.
Nnamdi & CJ form the best CB tandem in the league PERIOD.
October 21st, 2009 at 7:34 am
Exclamation Point =)
October 21st, 2009 at 7:35 am
jerry’s house prolly looks like this site
October 21st, 2009 at 7:36 am
Raider rockstar,
thats the point, but i think he will turn the tides and become great. Nice come back.
Man to man defense, i like it as a confidense buider, it tells you’re team i believe you are better then they are 1 on 1 so go out there and prove it. Now when it doesnt work you get burned 1 missed tackle and it’s a huge gain.
Zone is good against a young WR core cause they dont find the holes as fast as the vets, but get a veteran group and a QB like Gannon and he will torch you all day, ask the Steelers.
It’s the mixture of players and schemes that makes both of those systems work, not to mention a pass rush lol.
October 21st, 2009 at 7:36 am
CJ is our second best corner PERIOD.
Nnamdi & CJ form the best CB tandem in the league PERIOD.
October 21st, 2009 at 7:36 am
I dont mean to dog him, i like him alot but i just think he needs to be mentored by someone like Nnamdi who is a great tackler and cover guy. He has worked wonders for Huff. Nnamdi to me is the complete corner no disrespect to Deon, but Deon was thrown too alot in a game they didnt avoid him all together. Nnamdi gets the ultimate respect out there,sometimes not seeing 1 pass all game long hence his lack of INT’s. Peyton Manning has said it, Favre has said it, why even test him just stick to the other side or the slot. That to me is greatness and respect.
October 21st, 2009 at 7:39 am
RRS
You can’t possibly justify pulling Russell after his best game of the season and a WIN.
I don’t trust Gradkowski. He’s a point shaver.
October 21st, 2009 at 7:41 am
I didagree on Todd. It took a lot of work for Marinovich to learn how to surf nude while stoned!
October 21st, 2009 at 7:41 am
that’s disagree
October 21st, 2009 at 7:42 am
“P.S. great stick on the RB coming out on that screen pass.”
CJ sniffs those out very well.
He’s a good zone defender and good bump and run, just guesses too much. Trying to jump routes 30 yards downfield on crisp passes will not get it done.
Neon will set him straight on that one hopefully.
October 21st, 2009 at 7:42 am
RRS, Southwick did what he had to do – as an intern. He can’t get suspended.
See, Cable was misquoted. He actually yelled “I’m gonna HAVE YOU KILLED!!” One yell down the hall to Danny and WHAM!…Hanson is ass over tabernacle.
Problem is, when Danny is leading the team on the field who is gonna step up and be the iron fist everyone fears? D-Smooth can’t do it all.
And take it easy on my man Jimmy Carter!
October 21st, 2009 at 7:43 am
r8dr4lfe21: i hated pee on sanders when he played too, but you’ve got to admire the way he took a nobody and made him one of the best man-to-man cover corners in the league
nnamdi is taking huff under his wing. who says there is room for one more? usually guys mentor when they are past thier prime. nnamdi is in his prime.
October 21st, 2009 at 7:45 am
“LA to TheBay: thats the problem. for the second year in a row with Russell starting, he has no capable backup. What happens if he gets injured? ”
We agree on this. Its a concern.
October 21st, 2009 at 7:46 am
I need some opinions, I have an injured backup rb in Fantasy football, I am starting Marion Barber and I need to pick someone up…. do I take a flyer on Fargas or pickup Faulk hoping he catches a td pass against the bucs? Any advice?
October 21st, 2009 at 7:48 am
“nnamdi is taking huff under his wing. who says there is room for one more? usually guys mentor when they are past thier prime. nnamdi is in his prime.”
We also agree here. Your boy Huff hasn’t really shown up on the stat sheet since KC, but he has been a contributor even in losses.
My biggest concern with Huff was never his instincts, but his tackling. He has made a quantum leap this season in that regard, and playing in primarily pass-only situations has limited the number of times he has to come to the LOS or the flat to make those tackles.
I also think his work on STU may have helped in addition to Aso’s guidance.
October 21st, 2009 at 7:54 am
Well, there it is. RRS said PERIOD. Question answered. Discussion is adjourned.
Next topic?
October 21st, 2009 at 7:54 am
Problem is, when Danny is leading the team on the field who is gonna step up and be the iron fist everyone fears? D-Smooth can’t do it all.
***
Mike Vick!
(sorry, did I open that can of worms again?)
Southwick is the most talented QB in Alameda. PERIOD
October 21st, 2009 at 8:00 am
r8dr4lfe21 has to go to work! this is his boss i need my computer back…..he’ll talk later when i get off the computer….
October 21st, 2009 at 8:01 am
What’s Mays 6′3 235 runs a 4.3 40 is absolutely ripped don’t know how good he will be but those numbers will be hard for Big Al to ignore he loves physical freaks.
October 21st, 2009 at 8:02 am
Morning Nation. Wednesday is work day – Let’s see if we can put back to back weeks.
JETS are ripe for the loss!
Now, curious… WHY do all the mock drafts have us taking Eric Berry or Taylor Mays in the 1st round.
I guess the idea of Mike Mitchell is too much for anyone to believe is the real deal or?
October 21st, 2009 at 8:02 am
raiderjhawk: Fargas might rush for 100 yards against the Jets w/o Kris Jenkins, but don’t count on any TD’s from him
Kevin Faulk is a decent option if you can’t get L. Maroney or J. Stewart
LA: who cares if Graddy is a pube shaver? if he can sustain drives and execute short & medium passes as well as screens & dumpoffs he might be golden for us
October 21st, 2009 at 8:04 am
405,
everybody knows the Raiders are just 1 DB away from turning this thing around …
October 21st, 2009 at 8:05 am
Hanson’s dad after he got into argument with cable about his son. http://deadspin.com/5386264/pop-warner-coach-tired-of-slacking-player-takes-it-out-on-fathers-face
October 21st, 2009 at 8:10 am
later fellas. enjoyed the morning convo
October 21st, 2009 at 8:24 am
I was hoping we could find the next Darren Sproles…
http://www.reuters.com/article/oddlyEnoughNews/idUSTRE59D4LM20091014
October 21st, 2009 at 8:31 am
Because Taylor Mays is taylor fit for this defense.
USC runs a similar defense to what Al is into. They frequently man up with the SS on a TE or in the box and let Mays play centerfield and crack guys.
The argument against drafting Mays would be that we have Huff playing center field well. Branch can play SS or FS (apparently) and Mitchell is the SS of the future.
But, don’t put it past Al to get the best athlete available. We had a top 10 rushing attack and drafted McFadden because of his explosiveness.
I like the way Huff has been showing up, but I would love Mays back there and he can play evry snap.
Despite the naysayers, I don’t think we’ll be picking high enough to snag him though, as I believe he will be gone by the time we pick.
October 21st, 2009 at 8:34 am
This sh!t is a joke.
In the first 20-30 posts on this board theres maybe 5
that actually relate to the topic.
And I bet if I actually counted all 240-250 up to this one there may be 25-30 total that have anything to do with the topic.
It’s like a elementary school playground around here,back and forth little bickering sessions.
October 21st, 2009 at 8:37 am
“LA: who cares if Graddy is a pube shaver? if he can sustain drives and execute short & medium passes as well as screens & dumpoffs he might be golden for us”
Isn’t that what Russell did in our win on Sunday? GRuss targeted 5 times and caught them all. Zach Miller said ‘my bad’ on a ball that appeared to be overthrown and had a poorly read pass play (Russell’s only bad read, IMO) INT’d in front of him with no chance of making a play.
Other than that, Russell completed his passes to the TEs as well (I believe Stewart had a grab or two).
He tried to involve his rookie WRs early and look how that turned out. I don’t think Gradkowski can make those guys catch.
October 21st, 2009 at 8:41 am
Can the Chiefs be that desperate?
Posted by Mike Florio on October 21, 2009 10:59 AM ET
As the Kansas City Chiefs continue to try to remake their roster, they’ve slipped into a DeLorean and set the dial to 2003.
The Chiefs have signed defensive lineman Kenny Smith. Yes, that Kenny Smith. The one who hasn’t played in an NFL game since 2003, when he started nine games for the Saints.
Though the release from the team says that he played with the Saints through 2004, the NFL.com player page for Smith shows zero appearances in 2004 or 2005. For 2006, 2007, and 2008? Nothing
Posted by Mike Florio on October 21, 2009 10:59 AM ET
As the Kansas City Chiefs continue to try to remake their roster, they’ve slipped into a DeLorean and set the dial to 2003.
The Chiefs have signed defensive lineman Kenny Smith. Yes, that Kenny Smith. The one who hasn’t played in an NFL game since 2003, when he started nine games for the Saints.
Though the release from the team says that he played with the Saints through 2004, the NFL.com player page for Smith shows zero appearances in 2004 or 2005. For 2006, 2007, and 2008? Nothing
October 21st, 2009 at 8:48 am
Maybe we should all start spelling out our punctuation. PERIOD.
So, how are we going to beat the Jets? QUESTION MARK.
And, I wonder if Marshall will continue to call the defense how he’s sees fit? QUESTION MARK.
I sure hope so! EXCLAMATION POINT
October 21st, 2009 at 8:49 am
From what Cable said, it sounds like we’ve got our backfield set in Fargas RB and Russell FB and he’ll get no complaints out of me.
Fargas is a mench.
Big Banana, lol.
October 21st, 2009 at 8:52 am
Very interested to see how Cable and Marshall call this next game.
If we revert to the B&B and bump&run, I think it could be a long day.
Regardless of the scheme, wev’e had the most success when we came out and puched the opponent in the mouth.
When the Raiders win the physical battles, they’ll have a far better shot at winning the contest.
October 21st, 2009 at 8:53 am
punched the opponent in the mouth.*
October 21st, 2009 at 8:54 am
Big Banana, LOL.
October 21st, 2009 at 9:20 am
LA to TheBay Says:
October 21st, 2009 at 8:49 am
From what Cable said, it sounds like we’ve got our backfield set in Fargas RB and Russell FB and he’ll get no complaints out of me.
Fargas is a mench.
Big Banana, lol.
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Fargas is only averaging 3.0 per carry this season and take away a meaningless 20-yard run at the end of the first half of the Philly game when Philly was in Hail Mary prevent, he only averaged 3.0 in that game.
Bush averaged 3.7 in the Philly game before getting hurt.
I do feel like Fargas played better than the numbers show. I feel like he helped grind down the clock in the 4th quarter and he always runs hard. But I just feel like the guy has no vision.
For an example of what Fargas lacks, go back and watch the Zach Miller TD. He catches the ball, jukes two defenders, has the presence to slow down and let Murphy crush another would-be tackler, and then has the presence to stop and let Murphy get the last defender as well. If that was Fargas he likely runs straight into the two defenders and the play is over there for about a 10-15 yard gain. Best case scenario is he jukes those defenders and runs right into the next defender before Murphy has a chance to deliver his first block. It’s his style, what can I say?
Bush is averaging almost a full yard more per carry than Fargas. He’s a better pass catcher. He’s an athletic 245 pound back who can run through tackles.
I think Cable is dying for the chance to feature Fargas as the No. 1 RB again and I’m afraid this past win gives him that chance. But the numbers and what I’m watching over the last 22 games clearly tell me Bush and McFadden need to be the lead backs with Fargas coming on as a change of pace guy.
October 21st, 2009 at 9:20 am
Jerry needs to chicketty check himself before he wreck himself and tell the IT guys to fix the blog.
October 21st, 2009 at 9:29 am
Gary Russell tellin’ it like it is, a wonderful clarity shown upon what most here derive to be such a dire state of affairs. Desire, the kind of desire Wheatley showed when he dragged the entire KC team into the end zone, the kind of desire David Tyree showed in the SB, the kind of desire CJ showed in blowing up the Philly ballcarrier, that and aggression wins football games.
I read here about all the missing pieces (blaming AD of course), the lack of talent on the Raiders at many positions (blaming AD of course), well arm chair QBs, a SB ring-bearer tells that it ain’t so. Who ya gonna believe? Your own rutted presuppositions? Or the observations of someone who is in it and has been there and done that? (Yes, the skeptics among you will dismiss Gary’s thoughts as something he has to say because he on the team. His comments come across to me as honest and insightful, just laying it out there for people to understand. Not merely trying to grab next week’s paycheck.)
October 21st, 2009 at 9:32 am
I’m telling you guys. We shoudl buy a billboard on 880 and call these guys a bunch of scrimage scrubs. That will piss them off again. we need to do this every week.
October 21st, 2009 at 9:38 am
Well said M.
You are very well spoken. If I may ask, what is your educational background?
October 21st, 2009 at 9:38 am
M Lonetree,
al davis likes to let the players manage themselves. However he made many mistakes in bringing guys are not strong in their football professioinalism. this is the first year that we have more of those passionate guys. It takes time to change that attitude and that I agree with Cable. Cable should stick to being a HC and let Hacket do his thing.
October 21st, 2009 at 9:45 am
he got himself an 8th grade edgeamacation
October 21st, 2009 at 9:46 am
way back in aught aught naught double aught!!! =)
October 21st, 2009 at 9:54 am
Chris,
Fargas was averaging almost 7 yards per carry heading into the 4th. He had several carries for no gain and a loss after the D played run exclusively, knowing the Raiders were eating clock.
I believe it is because of this that Russell was able to hit Russell (Russell 2 Russell, like the way that sounds) for that 3rd and long, something I don’t think we did once last year (convert on 3rd and 10 or more).
I like Bush, but the problem to me is that it has to be one or the other because both those guys need 20 carries or so to really get going.
If they can both produce with limited carries, watch out.
October 21st, 2009 at 9:55 am
Raider O,
venues various, both global and local.
408,
that ol’ edumacatin’ done left me in a dunce cap permanent-like. But my dunce cap has a Raider shield on it.
October 21st, 2009 at 9:56 am
Amen. Keep playing guys like Gary Russell and Louis Murphy. I love it. And what the heck, start DRAFTING and SIGNING guys like that. Jeez. Al, I love ya man…AND I hope you wake up and see what’s right in front of you. Attitude is at least as important as talent sir.
October 21st, 2009 at 10:00 am
Yes there is talent on this team and yes the players need more desire, but we still lack talent in certain key areas…like the o-line.
Of course Gary Russell is going to toot the Raiders’ horn, he is trying to maintain his career and he knows kissing the ring is the best way to earn a scholarship.
Cripes, Morrison has been saying the same kind of stuff for years…
We still need more talent…in addition to a coaching staff that can light the fire under the players, and Al needs to keep out of their way.
It is not just one thing, it is a combination of factors that keep us down. Al’s inability to hire a decent HC and his tendency to pressure the coaching staffs into doing things a certain way, combined with the lack of talent from previous drafts and free agent selection, and the players not coming together as a team and showing the desire to win on a consistent basis.
But it starts at the top. If Al Davis empowered his coaching staff instead of the players, then things might change.
Players seem to be like little kids. When a kid (player) has a parent (Al) that doesn’t give respect to the kid’s teachers (coaches) then naturally that kid is going to have less respect for the teachers and will probably not listen to them as they should and will not work hard for them. Some kids (Nnamdi) have that natural respect for the teachers and a certain level of self-motivation, but that is the exception, not the norm imo.
J. Russell hits the buffet every night because he knows there is no way Tom Cable will be backed by Al Davis if push comes to shove. Al covets players over coaches. Al would have laughed in McDaniels’ face had McDaniels been hired and come into his office and said Russell had to go because he was not staying in shape and was not learning the offense. That is just the way it is here. The only way around that is if Al hires a coach that the players respect and/or fear to much to try and pull an end around and go directly to Al Davis. Gruden did it for a while, but he had Bruce Allen running point for him against Al. There is no Bruce Allen in the organization anymore.
Depressing.
October 21st, 2009 at 10:00 am
“Amen. Keep playing guys like Gary Russell and Louis Murphy. I love it. And what the heck, start DRAFTING and SIGNING guys like that.”
He did.
Despite DHB’s lack of production, he’s working hard, showing up early and leaving late, and blocking well. Mitchell is a guy who listens and is very coachable (plus they both have gigatic chips on their shoulders).
We’ve got Fargas. Huff and Aso are pros and act like it.
Seymour leads by example and Greg Ellis is the best sign we’ve had in years. Outstanding pickup, IMO, because he’s a vocal guy, a vet, and a guy with his head on straight.
Gary Russell scores a SB TD and still has to battle for a roster spot six months later. I like the growing core of vetran players that lead by example. This is a better team because of them.
October 21st, 2009 at 10:02 am
Sorry, I meant to respond to 4Eva. See, I is a dunderhead.
October 21st, 2009 at 10:05 am
Al is not going to draft Taylor Mays you idiots. One position we don’t need more people at is safety. I don’t like him as our gm, but he is not completely retarded at this point. You say Al loves physical freaks and only drafts them? Then why did he pass on Vernon Gholston two years ago. Gholston is an all-time combine performance guy and Al passed on him for SEC production. Al likes physical specimens, but he is not going to draft them irrationally every time.
October 21st, 2009 at 10:08 am
“I can’t argue w/ the recent crop of FA’s you mentioned but the draft and FA’s need to continue to the point where the whole team is hungry and as much effort-based as talent.”
Agreed, we need more.
Still, despite the fact that Tom Cable would not be our first choice as HC, we have rid ourselves of the malcontents – Burgess, Sands, and Walter. Garcia was starting to fall into that category (although tough to blame him, ’cause he did want to compete, just wasn’t really allowed to do so fairly).
When Tommy Boy and Old Man Marshall have their say, it looked pretty dang good to me, I must say.
October 21st, 2009 at 10:08 am
LA2TB – fair enough bro. I agree w/ guys like Ellis and Seymour especially. I guess I want to see this become the theme for our team. I can’t argue w/ the recent crop of FA’s you mentioned but the draft and FA’s need to continue to the point where the whole team is hungry and as much effort-based as talent.
October 21st, 2009 at 10:10 am
M Lonetree Says:
October 21st, 2009 at 9:55 am
Raider O,
venues various, both global and local.
408,
that ol’ edumacatin’ done left me in a dunce cap permanent-like. But my dunce cap has a Raider shield on it.
_____________________________
Whatever M, we all know you discovered Ardi and threw a wrench into the well established evolutionary chain you old devil you.
October 21st, 2009 at 10:12 am
And the effort isn’t over either.
I think we will draft/sign to fill our needs and address our weaknesses (OLine, LB, and possibly DT).
This actually may also not be a bad year to get a CB, cause CJ is older and Aso may be on his way out soon.
The exception would probably be QB and WR. I think Al will ride out the players he has there now, despite the lack of production.
Having them i the sh:tstorm all year can only make them better going into next year. Forget the ‘they’re losing confidence’ argument as long as the team plays hard week in week out, despite the outcome.
October 21st, 2009 at 10:15 am
Dakota,
You seem almost religiously cynical these days. Be careful, as the next stage is stockpiling weapons, ammo and canned goods in your garage “bunker”.
Cub Fan + Raider Fan = South Dakota Militia Member
One other thing – Bruce Allen did cap mgmt. and contracts. He didn’t “run point” about scheme or personnel for Gruden. I think Chuckie was his own advocate, and I believe Cable does this well also. I just hope he advocates for what we all agree is needed – discipline.
October 21st, 2009 at 10:19 am
lmao!!!
October 21st, 2009 at 10:21 am
Dakota,
you represent skepticism and “vers le bas avec le roi” with whole-hearted fluency.
October 21st, 2009 at 10:22 am
“and I believe Cable does this well also. I just hope he advocates for what we all agree is needed – discipline.”
And if you don’t like it, he’ll knock your punk @$$ out, lol. I wish he could get away with crackin’ a few players as opposed to just quality control coaches.
Al would never have it, even if guys like Hanson are his snitches.
Dakota is right – not enough emphasis is placed on coaching but rather on athletes fitting into a predetermined scheme and just outplaying the guy in front of them.
October 21st, 2009 at 10:23 am
If I went past the 7th grade I bet I could understand post 269 =)
October 21st, 2009 at 10:25 am
By the way, good session from the AM crew. Let’s hope I didn’t jinx it.
October 21st, 2009 at 10:25 am
If Cable would just punch Al Davis, things might finally get done around here.
October 21st, 2009 at 10:29 am
Lol. Cable would have to go through Al Davis’ crack security team.
Which is to say, he’d have to go through Willie Brown and the Louisville Slugger.
Ol Man Willie Bumaye!
October 21st, 2009 at 10:29 am
J. Russell hits the buffet every night because he knows there is no way Tom Cable will be backed by Al Davis if push comes to shove. Al covets players over coaches.
***
Agreed. Al Davis even said he doesn’t care about work ethic & conditioning. If Cable talks to Davis and says “can we bench JaMarcus?, he’s not putting the work in..” Davis says “Russell is a talented quarterback. get over it!”
I think thats pretty much why Cable said it’s up to Russell how much he progresses. The coaches can’t make him do anything he doesn’t want to do.
October 21st, 2009 at 10:31 am
Packers resigned RT Mark Tauscher and the Redskins signed OT Levi Jones the past 2 weeks.
meanwhile we’re starting Erik Pears and anxiously awaiting the return of Cornell Green …
pathetic!
where’s Jon Runyan?
October 21st, 2009 at 10:32 am
# alisgod Says:
October 21st, 2009 at 9:32 am
I’m telling you guys. We shoudl buy a billboard on 880 and call these guys a bunch of scrimage scrubs. That will piss them off again. we need to do this every week.
……
LOL. Do you honestly believe that’s the reason we won? Our players are scrimmage scrubs, and will continue to play like it every week. The reason they won is because Marshall successfully lobbied to Al to use a different scheme, which fooled McNabb. Once McNabb showed signs of confusion, our D smelled the blood and got after it. Even scrimmage scrubs can get jacked up from time to time. But that’s what they are, Al Davis’s band of finely picked scrimmage players.
October 21st, 2009 at 10:39 am
4eva,
It means down with the king…I think….
October 21st, 2009 at 10:39 am
Thomas Jones is a beast. Leon Washington is a nice change of pace guy and return man (sort of like Sproles)
our run defense will be tested this week, especially with Mark Sachez struggling.
Nnamdi & CJ can handle Edwards & Cotchery, but their TE Keller is pretty solid too.
I hope the Raiders D-Line is ready to get low and get dirty.
Samson Satele should know this opponent pretty well. Hopefully he plays with a chip on his shoulder, like he’s got something to prove.
October 21st, 2009 at 10:42 am
Guys, Lane Kiffin’s been gone for well over a year. How much better are we?
October 21st, 2009 at 10:42 am
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October 21st, 2009 at 10:43 am
Bo, I know Bruce wasn’t the personnel guy, but I’ve heard that he kind of greased the way for Gruden to get things done…ran interference when Al wanted to meddle.
I picture Bruce as the rodeo clown distracting the bull long enough for the cowboy to get back on his feet, lol.
Now the cowboy has to deal directly with the bull…
October 21st, 2009 at 10:44 am
That was my next guess!!!
October 21st, 2009 at 10:45 am
Hey Dogg,
Did you catch the Lakers-Ws game last night? I just saw the score…
October 21st, 2009 at 10:45 am
“I think thats pretty much why Cable said it’s up to Russell how much he progresses. The coaches can’t make him do anything he doesn’t want to do.”
I think his reads were good, footwork bad.
Once he gets over the ‘G Throw,’ he’ll be ok.
Its hard to describe, but the G Throw is kind of the off balance shortstop to fist base heave with the leg kick out instead of planting both and throwing off the front foot.
This is a great tool to have if used in the proper situation (like the throw where Russell is falling to his knees but still gets the pass off), but when used in the wrong situation, it costs the Raiders points (EX: 4th and 1 PA pass to Murphy with nobody in his time zone – JR had the opportunity to set his feet and make a proper lob but made the G Throw “Yeah, what!?”).
October 21st, 2009 at 10:46 am
I don’t understand where are all the talent people talk about, Jamarcus is no talent, neither is any OL with the exceptions of Gallery and Henderson nevertheless both aren’t pro bowlers. We have a legit TE, our RBs are mediocre full of unfulfilled potential, WRs I don’t know the hype DHB sucks, Murphy is trying hard but he is not shining like Knox or Hakeem Nicks, Schillens still didnt play and we dont know if he is a number 1 wide out or a number 2 receiver. Hence, this offensive unit is not full of talent, potential should be the right word.
As far as defense goes, with the exception of Ellis, Seymour, Asmough the rest are BUMS, let me repeat myself, THEY ARE BUMS. U guys are happy about this defense playing hard against the Eagles who cant run the ball, how come they didnt play like this all year, I bet u there are guys who are just getting paychecks in this defense. Our safeties are backups in this league neither would start in the rest 31 teams, LBs is a joke undersized Morrison, Alston a backup at best, Howard a coverage guy who can’t stop the run. Kelly a fat idiot who is way overpaid, wait does he have any sacks this year? is he stopping the run? he is a joke, warren runs his mouth more than his tackles, I would rather see what we have on Dez Bryant then stupid Kelly and Warren. Chris Johnson gets burned EVERY WEEK, I wish NFL keeps stats of starting CB and the yards they gave up, CJ has been getting burned on weekly basis, sometimes I am thinking why did Al pay this idiot, he is too slow and cant cover always needs help from Eugene who is another slow bum. Special teams, where should I start? how about that we are the worst team in returning kicks and punts, but we do have the best kickers so maybe this is the unit which has some talents lol.
Guys wake up, this team needs alot of changes, let me say we need RT,RG,C, two DTs, three big fast LBs something Maluaga or Cushing or Clay Matthew (USC defense), a real SS not a skinny Branch someone who forces a fumble not a weak tackler like Branch does he even have any forced Fumble? maybe Branch can play free safety and we can see what we got on Mike Mitchell. Wake up Nation. When I hear team is talented, I see more 5 probowlers in that team, we only got kickers nothing else. Russel wakeup dude u played with the best defense who stopped the run and had more than 5 pro bowlers what an idiot!!!!
October 21st, 2009 at 10:49 am
Dakota Says:
October 21st, 2009 at 10:45 am
Hey Dogg,
Did you catch the Lakers-Ws game last night? I just saw the score…”
Missed the game, was at a meeting. Just saw the score and also read about how the Lakers showed only 39 minutes before tip-off because their bus was stuck in traffic on the way to the game in Ontario, CA. Phil talking about how they are going to helicopter in from now on.
Good thing the W’s took it easy on you guys. Have you heard or read Stephen Jackson’s comments about Kobe? Before the game yesterday he was saying stuff like “I am not going to get into it with Kobe. We all know what would happen if he and I got into a fight, but this is basketball blah blah blah.” Jackson is a good ball player but he doesn’t seem too bright.
October 21st, 2009 at 10:50 am
TrueRaider
Johnson is not slow, the guy ran and probably still runs a sub 4.2.
He’s guessing too much and trying to jump routes 3o yards deep. Several times he got burned in Houston, he was expecting safety help and din’t get it. Whether that’s on him or the safety, I don’t know.
Apparently you haven’t been watching Branch, who is going to really shine in the near future.
You see his hit on Brandon Malumaleuna (sp? I just call him monstermaleuna)?
It’s a tough D that doesn’t get enough credit because they’re all considered track stars and not football players.
Track stars can’t hit like CJ.
Track stars can’t cover like Aso.
Track stars can’t disrupt like Seymour.
Track stars can’t wrap like Ellis.
There is potential AND talent on this team and Al Davis himself told us at his offseason presser that he didn’t expect playoffs and we were still building.
Would you rather he went on another spending spree and tried to fix this mess overnight?
The right steps were taken and some very good people brought in this year, and I believe the team will continue to come together but still struggle, although their progress will hopefully spill over into next year, with an improved OLine and a real SSLB.
October 21st, 2009 at 10:53 am
afternoon 4eva, how’s it down there today?
October 21st, 2009 at 10:53 am
Dakota
The Beard is always bad a$$ at the beginning of the year. Just wait until early December, his back will start acting up from too much roller skating.
The W’s are almost, if not just as, dysfunctional as the Raiders. The strange thing it comes down to ownership as well. Hell even the A’s ownership seems to be a collection bumbling idiots.
October 21st, 2009 at 10:54 am
True Raider……Miller are TE is on his way to pro bowl status…..Seymour on his way to pro bowl status…..Shane Pro Bowler…..Nhambi Probowler……You can make a arguement for Ellis the season he’s putting together….Gallary if heathly was right there to…So to say this team has no talent is ridiculous, yes we have plenty of holes, but the good teams find ways to plug them, which we are trying to do.
October 21st, 2009 at 10:54 am
Dogg,
I didn’t see that from S. Jackson, lol, but I did see where he believes he is as talented as Kobe….hmmmm, well, I guess he has to say that as an athlete, but it still made everyone laugh out loud.
Well, sometimes it is better just to get rid of morons like that…the W’s have plenty of talent elsewhere that they can depend on.
During the Lakers-clippers game I noticed that the Beard is in full effect this year…looks like he is serious about playing this season, lol.
October 21st, 2009 at 10:54 am
JR had the opportunity to set his feet and make a proper lob but made the G Throw “Yeah, what!?”
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LA: what does G stand for? god awful? because he makes a lot of those. Russell has 22 NFL starts. I’m talking about that entire body of work, not just one game which might have been the best of his career to this point where he still had twice as many turnovers than TD’s
Russell is 7-15 as a starter. If Cable says he’s not putting the work in, thats probably a big reason why we’re losing
October 21st, 2009 at 10:58 am
Todd Marinovich’s dad trains Troy Polamalu… LOL
October 21st, 2009 at 10:58 am
“If Cable says he’s not putting the work in, thats probably a big reason why we’re losing”
And yet, when the entire team plays hard and Cable calls a smart game, we win. It’s not a mystery. Outstanding QBs can’t win games by themselves and likewise mediocre QBs can’t lose all by themselves.
Russell is actually rather adept at throwing the ball away. When he is staring 20+ yards downfield, he holds it and his pourous O Line can’t give him any help.
See how much better he looked when guys were running routes inside 20 yards?
He does need to put in the work and improve. Absolutely, he is far from “there.”
However, to blame the struggles of this team entirely on Russell is ridiculous and short sighted.
October 21st, 2009 at 11:01 am
On offense you need plaers that are smart, talented hard workers at the C and QB positions.
We don’t have that yet. Russell did score a 24 on the wonderlic, but I don’t know if he has the football IQ and he certainly doesn’t appear to have the work ethic required to be great.
Satele and Morris are both scrub centers.
Just my opinion.
October 21st, 2009 at 11:02 am
I apologize for the repost if someone else has posted this, but it came out last yesterday on SI.com
With win, Raiders, Cable get brief break from dysfunction — sort of
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/ann_killion/10/20/raiders/index.html?eref=sihp
October 21st, 2009 at 11:02 am
plaYers…my bad
October 21st, 2009 at 11:03 am
back to work. later gents
October 21st, 2009 at 11:09 am
Scuse me, RRS you said big reason, not THE reason, although I still stand by what I said, and I’m sure you stand by what you said.
But how ’bout the other Russell?
Another leader from a winner. Need a few more. It’s been said for years we’re only a few peices away from contending, but at this point in time I truly believe that is accurate.
Most would disagree and that’s fine, we’ll see how it plays out.
October 21st, 2009 at 11:10 am
I picture Bruce as the rodeo clown distracting the bull long enough for the cowboy to get back on his feet, lol.
Now the cowboy has to deal directly with the bull…
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Remember the unattributed quote from Raiders HQ about why no one intervenes to stop Al from making dumb moves?
“We don’t pet the tiger.”
LOL.
I agree that it would be nice to have a GM to help smooth relations and to check Al’s worst impulses. But Cable and Co. seem to be doing pretty well in pushing for player upgrades.
Adios to Burgess, Sands, Walter, Hall, Garcia, Wilson. Hello to Ellis, Seymour, GRussell, Southwick.
Cable had to have a lot of say-so with these moves. I am confident in his ability to talk Al INTO good decisions. But who will talk Al OUT of the bad moves?
October 21st, 2009 at 11:12 am
Bo.
Good post.
Cable had the say in getting the malcontents out, I’m sure, but ultimately wasn’t able to convince Al that drafting DHB wasn’t the right move.
Once (if?) he can do both, we’ll have ourselves a HC.
October 21st, 2009 at 11:13 am
Every team in the league needs more talented this team is plenty talented to win and win big. The attitude of this team needed an adjustment and they got it now move forward.
Chaz will help bigtime and Bush needs to take a que from Fargas and run with some passion. When DMC comes back please keep your feet and put a move on someboy anybody. And this team can start making some serious noise in the league.
This game Sunday is all about attitude and if the don’t come out with same intensity and attitude. Tey will get beat…………period
October 21st, 2009 at 11:14 am
I hope that today when our coaches are coming up with their plan of attack, the Marshall Plan isn’t “yes, Mr. Davis.”
We won’t be able to surprise the Jets like we did the Eagles, but can keep them off balance with execution and a few extra wrinkles.
I believe I saw Bryant off the LOS once or twice, and Scott standing up as opposed to 3 pt.
Keep it interesting and keep Ryan guessing.
Punch them in the mouth with Jaryichael Farbush and get Russell/Miller/Murphy/Chaz(!!) going on PA.
October 21st, 2009 at 11:14 am
Rockstar,
That was not Russell’s best game (probably vs. Houston last year 18-25, 236, 2TDs, 0 INTs, win). And one of those turnovers on Sunday was completely on Murphy who had the ball doink off his hands.
Have some patience. I’m pretty sure JaMarcus is still the 3rd youngest starting QB in the league. Plus he’s being asked to play with a pair of rookie WRs. Both guys have potential, but sending out a young, developing QB to get it done with two rookies on the outside is a hell of a lot to ask for.
Matt Ryan, Flacco and Roethlisberger are anomalies. QBs rarely ever play at a high level in their first few years. Those guys all had good/great defenses and running games backing them up. Their stats weren’t that great. JaMarcus and Sanchez are much more the norm. Flashes of excellence with bouts of getting destroyed. Eli Manning, Aikman, Elway, Brees and many others were in that same boat for their first couple of years. It’s much more normal for a QB to take a few years than it is for them to excel from Day 1.
October 21st, 2009 at 11:14 am
LA, I bet few, if any coaches have talked Al into a first round draft choice. Al blamed Art Shell for Huff but I don’t buy it.
I think the coaches pushed for and got Murphy and Myers. The rest were Al’s picks or the scouts. Just a guess.
One other thing – Hackett and Tollner may well be playing the role Dakota wants from a Bruce Allen type. They have their stripes already and hopefully can intervene with Cable as a group. I can easily picture them in unison saying, “But Mr. Davis…Usain Bolt has NEVER PLAYED FOOTBALL.”
October 21st, 2009 at 11:16 am
# LA to TheBay Says:
October 21st, 2009 at 10:50 am
TrueRaider
Johnson is not slow, the guy ran and probably still runs a sub 4.2.
He’s guessing too much and trying to jump routes 3o yards deep. Several times he got burned in Houston, he was expecting safety help and din’t get it. Whether that’s on him or the safety, I don’t know.
Apparently you haven’t been watching Branch, who is going to really shine in the near future.
You see his hit on Brandon Malumaleuna (sp? I just call him monstermaleuna)?
It’s a tough D that doesn’t get enough credit because they’re all considered track stars and not football players.
Track stars can’t hit like CJ.
Track stars can’t cover like Aso.
Track stars can’t disrupt like Seymour.
Track stars can’t wrap like Ellis.
There is potential AND talent on this team and Al Davis himself told us at his offseason presser that he didn’t expect playoffs and we were still building.
Would you rather he went on another spending spree and tried to fix this mess overnight?
The right steps were taken and some very good people brought in this year, and I believe the team will continue to come together but still struggle, although their progress will hopefully spill over into next year, with an improved OLine and a real SSLB.
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My man, I never said Branch is a bad player, I said he never forces a turnover like a real SS someone like Polumla or Adrian Wilson a real beefy SS who when he hits forces the fumble, Branch physic is weak and seems to fit a free saftey not a strong safety. I guess you agree with me because you said we need a real “SSLB”.
As far as CJ goes, 4.2 I am not sure dude, I mean Vernon Davis ran a 4.3 in the combine and when he is on the field he looks like 4.9 runner. CJ is getting burned on man to man coverage, Desean Jackson burned him, Steve Smith, Andre Johnson and Walter, Mrshall, Bowe, etc. So you trying tell me every week he is waiting for help from the safety, come on LA man give me a break, I wish I had the time to replay every game and see how many yards CJ is giving up this season, I bet u it is at least or more than 400 yards by himself. Btw, I didn’t want Al Davis to go on spending spree but sometimes you can get legit players for cheap. Donkeys had the worst defense last year and they kept only 4 players on their defense and this year they are number 1 defense in the league. For the past 3 yrs we had the same LBs who apparently are bums but nobody is admitting it. We could have gotten someone like Jermiah Trotter, Derrick Brooks guys who are veterans and can help this team. Maybe we could have drafted someone in the second round named Maluaga but hey anything is better than Brown, Alston, Morrison this guys cant stop the run, our DTs are blocking but our LBs cant escape from their blockers and tackle for siht.
October 21st, 2009 at 11:16 am
Cable has a kid. He’s divorced, if I’m not mistaken. I’m sure that’s costing him. He’s getting paid millions to do everything Al tells him to. The reason Al did what he did to Kiffin was to let his ensuing puppet coaches know what will happen if they try to get bold and take over the team. Cable’s just collecting his check. As long as he does what Al says, Al has to pay him. That’s all he’s thinking about.
October 21st, 2009 at 11:19 am
Chris in NY, man it is a pleasure to read astute Raiders fans like you and Oakglenn and several others. Terrapin and jhill an SnB just to name a few others.
Because some I come in here and just leave from all the lunacy.
Just wanted to say great to read you brotha!
October 21st, 2009 at 11:22 am
Cable’s just collecting his check? MR you are delusional. If Cable was half-assing it, Randy Hanson wouldn’t be eating through a straw.
October 21st, 2009 at 11:26 am
M,
Im glad I asked in a blog. My ignorance would have embarrassed me. lol
October 21st, 2009 at 11:28 am
# mcfaddenswaggon Says:
October 21st, 2009 at 10:54 am
True Raider……Miller are TE is on his way to pro bowl status…..Seymour on his way to pro bowl status…..Shane Pro Bowler…..Nhambi Probowler……You can make a arguement for Ellis the season he’s putting together….Gallary if heathly was right there to…So to say this team has no talent is ridiculous, yes we have plenty of holes, but the good teams find ways to plug them, which we are trying to do.
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No way Seymour is pro bowler with 4 sacks, ppl like Allen and Dumerville are way higher than him to be even considered. Same goes with Ellis. I bet you this year Asmough will not make the pro bowl selection, his numbers are way down and QBs are throwing to his side for example against SD and Houston. Gallery is injured so he is out of question, only pro bowlers we might have a chance seeing are Lechler and Jano if he ends 100% with more than 26 kicks in the end of the season.
Those who say this team is talented should say this team is filled with potential whom currently are not living to their hype, the likes of:
Jabust
DHBdropper
Mcfumble
Angry Murph
Bum OLs
Fat Kelly
Thrash talker Warren
CJ Burnt
Branch no FF
Huff can’t be a bust
Mike Mitchell youtube hype
Hope this enlightens those who think we are on the category of NE, Colts, Giants, Saints, we got long way to go to be called talented, potential yes not talented yet.
October 21st, 2009 at 11:31 am
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 21st, 2009 at 11:16 am
Cable has a kid. He’s divorced, if I’m not mistaken. I’m sure that’s costing him. He’s getting paid millions to do everything Al tells him to. The reason Al did what he did to Kiffin was to let his ensuing puppet coaches know what will happen if they try to get bold and take over the team. Cable’s just collecting his check. As long as he does what Al says, Al has to pay him. That’s all he’s thinking about.
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I agree, matter fact Cable would have never been a head coach in this league if it wasn’t for Al Davis, he is not qualified to be a head coach neither a play caller and he knows that. He will collect pay checks and be a puppet as long as he can, after he gets fired he will return to being no one ZB OL coach.
October 21st, 2009 at 11:33 am
TrueRaider,
No, not that he’s waiting for safety help every week or every play. CJ has not been locking it down quite as much as last year, and this is intentional.
CJ shuts down the slants, hitches, screens, and you’re wearing him like a jacket on routes like that.
Where he struggles is the sidleines on deep routes. You have noticed it, as I’m sure opposing coaches have as well.
We must also keep in mind that he gets picked on more than any other CB in league because of who plays on the other side. That’s why I like seeing more zone and zone blitz mixed in.
For an example of how fast CJ is, you have to see him chase someone down. I forget which game it was, but he pulled a WR down inside the 5 on what looked to be a sure TD.
I think Howard serves his purpose as a good cover LB and can blitz well, as we saw. Morrison is a gamer, but would look a lot better with a beast SSLB rather than a special teamer.
I like our safeties, actually. Branch isn’t physically imposing, but you have to remember what scheme he plays in. He has to be quick enough to man up on TEs week in and week out, and he will play two very good ones in Sheffler and Gates later this season.
Huff plays well against TE’s as well, but doesn’t make the tackles a SS needs to. That’s why I like what he’s been doing in centerfield.
I think Eugene is a special teamer at best, so we agree there.
It’s still a work in progress, is my point.
The difference between this year and years past is that I think there’s a legitimate commitment to get better.
October 21st, 2009 at 11:34 am
CJ has not been locking it down quite as much as last year, and this is intentional (meaning him being victimized, not that he’s getting burned intentionally)*
October 21st, 2009 at 11:38 am
So nice to see Derrick Burgess is proving to be everything we thought he was… he has one sack this season and could be inactive next week. Those extra 3rd and 5th round picks are right in Al’s wheelhouse.
http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/articles/2009/10/21/roster_miscues_rest_with_belichick/?page=full
October 21st, 2009 at 11:40 am
We need to find someone who isn’t scared to return punts and kickoffs!
October 21st, 2009 at 11:43 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 21st, 2009 at 11:45 am
Bo, do you know what Hanson and Cable’s fight was about? Just because someone knocks someone out at work doesn’t mean he’s doing it because he cares about the company. It could have been over anything. Unless you have a transcript of the event, you have no clue what it was over, either. If you want to pretend it’s because Cable wants to win, suit yourself. I mean, you’ve convinced yourself Al Davis wants to win…you can convince yourself of anything!
BTW….It’s nice to see you admit that Cable did knock him out. Remember when you guys were denying anything happened? LOL
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BS. You said he was “just collecting his check”. No way he gets upset enough to risk his income if he cares only about the money. He cares about winning, in stark contrast to your poseur buddy Lance.
You are wrong as usual. But it suits you.
October 21st, 2009 at 11:45 am
Yeah, Bo.
No way Cable knocks Hanson out if he’s just going through the motions.
He’s trying to coach these boys up, IMO.
October 21st, 2009 at 11:45 am
Bo, do you know what Hanson and Cable’s fight was about? Just because someone knocks someone out at work doesn’t mean he’s doing it because he cares about the company. It could have been over anything. Unless you have a transcript of the event, you have no clue what it was over, either. If you want to pretend it’s because Cable wants to win, suit yourself. I mean, you’ve convinced yourself Al Davis wants to win…you can convince yourself of anything!
BTW….It’s nice to see you admit that Cable did knock him out. Remember when you guys were denying anything happened? LOL.
October 21st, 2009 at 11:50 am
Can anyone post the full story, my internet is acting screwy.
October 21st, 2009 at 11:50 am
Bo, good point. I guess Cable’s just not smart enough to be an NFL coach then, considering he really is trying to coach the team the best he can. I was trying to give him the benefit of the doubt.
BTW, thank you for finally admitting there was an assault. You guys were putting a pretty good fight a few weeks back insisting that nothing even happened.
October 21st, 2009 at 11:52 am
LA to the Bay, so, you do think Cable knocked out Hanson? You’re not one of these guys who insists nothing happened, and that Hanson fell off his bike? LOL.
October 21st, 2009 at 11:57 am
^sponsor
October 21st, 2009 at 11:57 am
“BTW, thank you for finally admitting there was an assault. You guys were putting a pretty good fight a few weeks back insisting that nothing even happened.”
Really? I was the first MF sayin’ Cable Bumaye!!
October 21st, 2009 at 11:59 am
Alright, LA to the BAy. What do you have to say to these team shills in here who insist nothing happened? They’re nuts, right?
October 21st, 2009 at 12:02 pm
I’ll bet anything that most of you mocking Jerry’s weight are fat yourselves. I’ll bet you a donut (no pun intended).
October 21st, 2009 at 12:05 pm
I’m loving Seymour’s comments. That’s just what we need right now. A veteran with credibility stepping up and making a bold, confident claim like that. Tells you a lot about this team’s mindset and alot about Seymour’s enjoying playing for the Raiders.
I want to see a goddamm blowout by the Raiders this Sunday. I’m talking 28-7, at least. A 3-hour celebration at the Coliseum. I was actually planning on coming out there for this game several weeks ago but can’t make it. So I’ll be at the bar in my hometown surrounded by a bunch of Jets fans. And I’m looking forward to some frustrated fool in a Sanchez jersey try and start a brawl with me after the Raiders kick azz.
And if that silly Ed the Fireman Jets fan shows up in Oakland (he’s the azz in the fireman helmet who gets the J-E-T-S chant started at home games), somebody pelt him in the head with a full beer please. Thanks.
October 21st, 2009 at 12:05 pm
Two bigmacs,large fry,two apple pie for the jerrymac
That boy dont eat like a high school girl.
October 21st, 2009 at 12:07 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 21st, 2009 at 11:59 am
Alright, LA to the BAy. What do you have to say to these team shills in here who insist nothing happened? They’re nuts, right?
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Probably, but I can’t pretend to know what happened behind closed doors.
October 21st, 2009 at 12:07 pm
The official story still stands as nothing happened! Hanson was dreary from working so many hours, stumbled, and fell over a chair!
October 21st, 2009 at 12:07 pm
Your BMI is 23? That’s impressive. Are you an athlete? In the military? A cop? If not, I’m sure everyone in your little fancy office is scared of you, Bo. Your lifelong goal has been met. Congrats.
October 21st, 2009 at 12:09 pm
How about rockett Isamel?
October 21st, 2009 at 12:10 pm
Probably, but I can’t pretend to know what happened behind closed doors.
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Yeah, that job falls to MR. He knows it was Cable who attacked Hanson. He knows Marcus Allen hasn’t touched drugs or alcohol in his entire life. He knows precisely which comments are racist even though he is white. He even knows that Brien knows “everything about everything.” LMAO.
October 21st, 2009 at 12:11 pm
After hitting his face on a piece of furniture, Hanson fell into a temporary state of hallucination and heard voices threatening him.
October 21st, 2009 at 12:11 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 21st, 2009 at 12:07 pm
Your BMI is 23? That’s impressive. Are you an athlete? In the military? A cop? If not, I’m sure everyone in your little fancy office is scared of you, Bo. Your lifelong goal has been met. Congrats
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What does BMI have to do with scaring people? Are you that paranoid?
October 21st, 2009 at 12:13 pm
DMAC Says:
October 21st, 2009 at 11:40 am
We need to find someone who isn’t scared to return punts and kickoffs!
We sure do! Maybe we should call up Desmond Howard for the job.
October 21st, 2009 at 12:15 pm
Lets sign Tim Brown to fair catch punts. He has a lot of experience fair catching passes.
October 21st, 2009 at 12:15 pm
“We need to find someone who isn’t scared to return punts and kickoffs!”
Suit up Hanson and tell him Cable’s right behind him.
October 21st, 2009 at 12:17 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 21st, 2009 at 12:19 pm
Bo, one can get in shape without knowing their “BMI”. It’s an indication that you take your stealth physical appearance quite seriously. You want to be the first one to the microwave in your office break room. I admire you aggression, dude.
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Yeah, I’m a freak all right. I visit the doctor once a year and they weigh me and measure my height and waist. So look for me at the front of the boston marathon.
October 21st, 2009 at 12:18 pm
So, LA to the Bay, now you’re saying you’re not sure what happened? Make up your mind. Did Cable knock him out, or not? Because if he didn’t, my theory that Cable is just collecting a check still holds up. Did Cable knock Hanson out, or not?
October 21st, 2009 at 12:19 pm
Bo, one can get in shape without knowing their “BMI”. It’s an indication that you take your stealth physical appearance quite seriously. You want to be the first one to the microwave in your office break room. I admire you aggression, dude.
October 21st, 2009 at 12:21 pm
Bo, I go to the doctor once a year, too. Have no clue what my BMI is. Probably says what it is on that piece of paper they give me. Maybe my doctor didn’t want to embarrass me, I dunno. I should find out. It might be good, then I can match BMI’s with some of those in here with superior BMI’s. I was considering going back to school, getting a promotion. Screw that. I’m working on the BMI first. I’m getting my priorities straight, like you.
October 21st, 2009 at 12:22 pm
I would think MR would be lauding a Raiders head coach who (allegedly) KO’d Al’s snitch on the coaching staff. Kiffin would have whined to Mortensen.
October 21st, 2009 at 12:23 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 21st, 2009 at 12:21 pm
Bo… I’m getting my priorities straight, like you.
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For you it’ll take awhile.
October 21st, 2009 at 12:25 pm
Richard Seymour on the radio and a link on pft.com says the raiders will be in the playoffs this year.
October 21st, 2009 at 12:28 pm
The other night on the Discovery channel or TLC or History channel I watched a program that talked about the human life span and modern medical techniques that will allow people to live for 1000 years.
They are growing spare parts using cadaver parts completely stripped of their former DNA as scaffolding and then “growing” the tissue back using the patient’s own DNA, which solves the rejection issue and the supply issue. Right now they can do it with bladders and urethras, but they are working on hearts as we speak.
Nanobot technology can be introduced into the body to attack cancer cells before they cause major illness.
What is my point?
Al Davis might live forever.
October 21st, 2009 at 12:28 pm
LaToTheBay, Smokey has leaned over the Oakland Raiders and said “you got knocked the F u c out” more times in the past 7 years than he has for any other team.
October 21st, 2009 at 12:29 pm
And, we’re how much better now than we were when Kiffin was here, Bo?
October 21st, 2009 at 12:30 pm
Bo, do your kids brag at school about your BMI? Like, on kid will say, “My dad owns an auto parts store”. Another kid will say, “My dad’s a city council member”. And your kid says, “My dad’s BMI is 23, and he’s a size 6!”
October 21st, 2009 at 12:32 pm
Smokey doesn’t even lean over the Raiders anymore. He just shakes his head after they lose and keeps puffing away.
Lol.
In that case, Smokey = LA to TheBay.
October 21st, 2009 at 12:33 pm
Ron Wolf was D-Bo, LAToTheBay. And, we will never be D-Bo again.
October 21st, 2009 at 12:35 pm
Smokey doesn’t even lean over the Raiders anymore. He just shakes his head after they lose and keeps puffing away.
October 21st, 2009 at 12:35 pm
Seymour’s a G.
That’s a good move, IMO.
Stay accountable, stay hungry.
It would be different if it were DHB or “Money” Warren. Coming from Seymour, it puts the team on notice. Forget playing for progress, we’re playing to win.
Can anyone post the full story?
October 21st, 2009 at 12:36 pm
Cover 0, lol.
October 21st, 2009 at 12:38 pm
Seymour’s on crack. That’s now official.
October 21st, 2009 at 12:39 pm
Seymour garauntees playoffs
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/10/21/seymour-sees-playoffs-for-raiders-in-2009/
October 21st, 2009 at 12:41 pm
Seymour honestly thinks that Al’s going to let Marshall deviate from his beloved cover 0 again. Not going to happen. It was a one time treat.
October 21st, 2009 at 12:42 pm
And MR, here is some helpful info to review before you get all manic about my BMI.
23 ain’t that great, just not fat.
I know you want to imagine us all here as caricatures of some sort or another, but you’ll have to try harder with me. I’m pretty eclectic: an ex-Marine, deadhead, liberal, college b-ball playing defense contractor from Venice beach via the wholesome midwest. And I believe in God.
October 21st, 2009 at 12:42 pm
Everybody needs to start giving Al ALL THE CREDIT for the switch up on defense. That way, Al won’t get ticked off someone else is getting the credit.
The last thing Al will tolerate, is people claiming the Raiders win DESPITE Al Davis. That won’t fly with big Al. So give AL the credit for this so he won’t stubbornly revert back to the stupidazz man to man garbage out of spite.
Thanks Al for a great defensive scheme this week. Your genius is obviously at work again. You da man Mr. Davis.
October 21st, 2009 at 12:42 pm
And you know thisssss, maaaan!!
October 21st, 2009 at 12:43 pm
Bo, and don’t forget, you have a BMI of 23!
October 21st, 2009 at 12:43 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 21st, 2009 at 12:43 pm
Bo, and don’t forget, you have a BMI of 23!
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And you claim to strangers on the internet that you have shagged an NBA cheerleader!
You also claim we would like you in person, so your credibility is within reproach.
October 21st, 2009 at 12:48 pm
LAtotheBay, my brother bought my the Friday DVD set, all 3 of them, for Christmas a few years ago. You just inadvertently talked me into watching them again.
October 21st, 2009 at 12:51 pm
Seymour’s losing it. Predicting playoffs? PP PP PLAYOFFS???!!!!?? What happened to the smart Richard Seymoure, you know, the one who refused to come here?
October 21st, 2009 at 12:55 pm
Someone went off his meds again…..
October 21st, 2009 at 12:56 pm
Crude Earl,
Can you make me some, but with the Lakers’ logo instead? I am afraid I would take a sledgehammer to the Raider doors….
October 21st, 2009 at 12:57 pm
“LAtotheBay, my brother bought my the Friday DVD set, all 3 of them, for Christmas a few years ago. You just inadvertently talked me into watching them again.”
IMO, only the first is worth watching and the second if you’re really, really faded.
October 21st, 2009 at 1:04 pm
I can see why MR is confuse…the Kings can’t really claim to be an NBA team anymore, so Bo, he probably thinks he slept with an NBADL cheerleader.
October 21st, 2009 at 1:05 pm
raiderrej Says:
October 21st, 2009 at 12:39 pm
Seymour garauntees playoffs
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Cool, he must have inside info that Cable is going to be arrested and fired!
October 21st, 2009 at 1:06 pm
Lol, MR, the Kings missed those free throws, not the refs.
If your idea of “common knowledge” is the word of a felon, then I suggest you reassess your sources.
October 21st, 2009 at 1:11 pm
Brein remembers:
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Brien the General Says:
September 28th, 2009 at 11:08 am
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
September 28th, 2009 at 11:03 am
Brien, is there any subject you’re not an expert on? I’m looking for a car with decent gas mileage yet some power. Let’s hear it. Correct grammar not necessary.
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Correct grammar is not needed when telling the truth. Yes there are a few subjects I’m not an expert on. Hating Al Davis and knowing about ripper ass Sacramento Kings cheerleaders. That my friend is for you to hip us on to
October 21st, 2009 at 1:14 pm
I like McFadden. Hits the hole hard, nice burst, very quick. Goes down too easily, though and it may have something to do with his steel toed cleats.
Bottom line, though?
Pro McFadden. I think the kid’s got jets and he will hit the home runs we thought he was going to.
I think he could be used more effectively by the coaching staff, so we’ll see after the bye.
October 21st, 2009 at 1:16 pm
Bo, are you on google right now, typing in “MR”. “King’s cheerleader”? LOL. Stop wasting your time.
October 21st, 2009 at 1:16 pm
La to the Bay,
Where do you stand on McFadden?
I will post the updated list as soon as I get your response.
October 21st, 2009 at 1:17 pm
Dakota, are you admitting it was rigged?
October 21st, 2009 at 1:19 pm
Bo, if Brien says I said it, I must have. Brien would never lie. Perfectly reliable witness…
October 21st, 2009 at 1:20 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 21st, 2009 at 1:17 pm
Dakota, are you admitting it was rigged?
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Um, no, I said the Kings missed their free throws…are you thinking Blacksox scandle MR? The players blew the game on purpose? lol
October 21st, 2009 at 1:21 pm
MR has been taking a daily pummeling in here for over three years. I think he has a little masochism in him.
Must be from all those after ninergame parties.
October 21st, 2009 at 1:21 pm
bydavidwhite Richard Seymour says to mark it down: “The Raiders are going to the playoffs.”
29 minutes ago from web
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richard seymour drank the kool aid.
Z. miller
r.seymour
l. murphy
all world shane lechler
nnamdi asomugha
seabass
gallery ( unhurt )
IF WE HAD A ROSTER FULL OF GUY’S LIKE THESE WE WOULD FOR SURE BE IN THE PLAYOFFS.
oh yeah and napa police and d.a. to do their job !!!!!!
October 21st, 2009 at 1:22 pm
THE RUE THE DAY THEY HATED ON MCFADDEN LIST:
Lefty12
Priesttj
Bo
The Big Banana
Nnamdi21
OFL71
Kirk
JT
Raiderduck
SnB
Scottish Raider
los raiders de don rober
Sweep the leg
Indiana Raider
Djohnnyg
DarthPirate
JB
M
THE KEEPERS OF THE FAITH LIST:
Dakota
Brien
Jhill
Exla
r8dr4lfe21
Dell
Rockstar
Up Locomotive Engineer
LA to TheBay
October 21st, 2009 at 1:23 pm
Oh, now I get it. MR you were GOING TO shag that Kings cheerleader if they beat the Lakers.
Sure it was fixed. It would take a conspiracy to keep you and that honey apart.
October 21st, 2009 at 1:23 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 21st, 2009 at 1:28 pm
In case you guys are wondering where Bo is, he’s desperately scouring the search engines for any comment where I said I nailed a Kings cheerleader. Even if I did, I’d never brag about it. Nobody would believe it anyway. But he’s desperate to win an argument, after I’ve been making fun of him bragging about his “BMI” earlier. What is a BMI, anyway?
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Weak.
October 21st, 2009 at 1:24 pm
I Rue The Day we let Tom Rathman go. Big dropoff. Sry Brien.
October 21st, 2009 at 1:25 pm
Laker fans have no need for denial. Thats strictly a NOCAL necessity.
October 21st, 2009 at 1:28 pm
In case you guys are wondering where Bo is, he’s desperately scouring the search engines for any comment where I said I nailed a Kings cheerleader. Even if I did, I’d never brag about it. Nobody would believe it anyway. But he’s desperate to win an argument, after I’ve been making fun of him bragging about his “BMI” earlier. What is a BMI, anyway?
October 21st, 2009 at 1:30 pm
Dakota, if you don’t understand the economics of the game and the NBA’s motivation to get the Lakers in the finals over the Kings, and don’t appreciate the obvious evidence of horrible officiating combined with a former ref testifying that game 6 was rigged, then you’re probably just a Laker fan in denial. Wait, that’s exactly what you are. Never mind.
October 21st, 2009 at 1:30 pm
Oh sht, MR, you’re right, at least about my comment. Game 6 set up a game 7 in LA.
It was game 5 the Lakers felt they were being hustled.
October 21st, 2009 at 1:30 pm
JB,
No equivocating is allowed! Either you think McFadden is a RB or you are against him!
Sorry, but based on your insulting opinion that he should play WR you must be placed on the Rue the Day list!
October 21st, 2009 at 1:32 pm
Bo, give up on searching the internet for it? LOL. I’m sorry I made fun of that whole BMX thing earlier, or BMI, whatever. It’s got you on a mission. Try another search engine. There has to be a comment somewhere where I say that. I mean, if Brien says so…
October 21st, 2009 at 1:32 pm
Dakota
Don’t mind being on the list but let me clarify: I don’t hate McFadden. Quite to the contrary. I just think he’d excel as a WR, especially coming out of the slot on crossing patterns against nickle backs, safeties & LB’s – all a total mismatch. He’d certainly score more TD’s than as a RB running between the tackles. He’s just too fragile & injury prone not to mention his inability to hold the ball when being mauled by 3+ defenders. Why beat the crap out of him when we have other personnel more suited for the banging inside?
So, in conclusion, McFadden would make a far better WR than a RB. That’s just my assessment but I’m standing by it.
October 21st, 2009 at 1:34 pm
Plunkethead, you’re a cheerleader, in every aspect of life.
October 21st, 2009 at 1:36 pm
What is the big deal if Seymour said we are going to the playoffs this year? Good!!!! Someone on this team needs some balls. Good for him he is champion of course he is aiming for the playoffs. I wish the other team would do the same!
October 21st, 2009 at 1:36 pm
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
October 21st, 2009 at 1:25 pm
Laker fans have no need for denial. Thats strictly a NOCAL necessity.
…….
No kidding.
Look up: The Raider Nation (while you’re searching for those supposed comments of mine…lol)
October 21st, 2009 at 1:36 pm
What is the big deal if Seymour said we are going to the playoffs this year? Good!!!! Someone on this team needs some balls. Good for him he is champion of course he is aiming for the playoffs. I wish the other players on the team would do the same!
October 21st, 2009 at 1:37 pm
MR, if anything the NBA owes the Lakers an apology for being so phobic after Magic admitted he had HIV. They basically forced him to retire until the sports world could catch up with his personal integrity.
Most courageous example from an athlete in my lifetime.
October 21st, 2009 at 1:38 pm
dakota start a pro or against cable list.
count me as an emphatic against !!!!!!!!!!!!
October 21st, 2009 at 1:43 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 21st, 2009 at 1:41 pm
Bo, Magic’s situation has nothing to do with what happened in the ‘02 conference finals. Your point makes no sense.
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The sense: The NBA owes the Lakers an apology for something that actually happened, not the Kings for your fantasy conspiracy.
October 21st, 2009 at 3:37 pm
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