All that’s left are the lawsuits
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, October 22nd, 2009 at 5:16 pm in Oakland Raiders.
It’s all over but the civil litigation.
John McGuinn, the attorney for Randy Hanson, told Comcast SportsNet a lawsuit was “on the horizon, but that there was no hurry to file it.
Coach Tom Cable was done talking to the media before he got the news he expected all along _ that no charges would be filed in the alleged assault involving Randy Hanson _ but could be in line to file one himself.
He’ll speak with the media following practice Friday.
– Hard to imagine the NFL having any recourse to discipline Cable considering the way the Napa D.A.’s office took apart Hanson’s version of the story.
– We’ll never know exactly what went on in the room where Hanson emerged with a broken jaw, but Cable took an unnecessary beating considering there was never a legitimate on the record source other than Hanson and his attorney who were doing the talking.
– My favorite comment from John McGuinn, the attorney for Hanson, when asked by a television reporter about his client’s status with the Raiders.
“I wish I knew in any definitive way,” McGuinn said. “I have made an attempt to contact the Raiders. I have not received anything in response.”
Don’t worry, John. They’ll get back to you.
– A fairly empty locker room Thursday, with most players at meetings and long gone form the locker room by the time JaMarcus Russell had finished his weekly session.
– The best news on the injury front is that right guard Cooper Carlisle practiced without limitations and should be good to go against the Jets, as well as Chaz Schilens making it through full practices on consecutive days.
As posted earlier, Russell said Schilens looked sharp. Cable said he won’t decide until Saturday how best to use Schilens, and which rookie receiver would be likely to get reduced snaps.
Those who did not practice Thursday included WR Nick Miller (shin), LG Robert Gallery (broken fibula), RB Darren McFadden (knee), LB Ricky Brown (ankle), T Cornell Green (calf) and TE Brandon Myers (ill). Myers was sent home with a stomach ailment, Cable said.
Defensive end Greg Ellis (knee) was limited, and could remain that way as a maintenance issue for some time.
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October 22nd, 2009 at 5:21 pm
“All that’s left are the lawsuits”
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There isn’t much left to those either. This matter is closed.
October 22nd, 2009 at 5:22 pm
Raider Dell Says:
October 22nd, 2009 at 5:19 pm
MR
Who are you loyal to? Your union, your friends, your parents.
Loyalty is earned and not given, it something like having earned respect.
I have never cared if you hate Davis. You have that right, but your characterization of Raider fans as suckers due to our losing, has no bearing how one should feel or think about Raider fans.
We all share a bond, that is a strong belief that we will be there no matter what.
Also, ‘m not a fan, I’m a Raider, part of the Nation of Raiders.
October 22nd, 2009 at 5:22 pm
why everybody putting blame on cable for the seasons wrong doing, give him a break dawgs , he is passionate for this team , surly thats a good thing ..
October 22nd, 2009 at 5:25 pm
Wow MR is upset about Cable using the system and winning. Didn’t Barack Obama do the same thing?
October 22nd, 2009 at 5:28 pm
And the Randy Hanson suicide watch begins……….
October 22nd, 2009 at 5:29 pm
Al Davis: Lawsuit ? who said Lawsuit?
October 22nd, 2009 at 5:36 pm
MR is a punk and as ruler of the kingdom I’ll give 500 shekels of gold to any man who brings this traitor’s head to me.
October 22nd, 2009 at 5:39 pm
El Gato, nice try again. The only point I made is that it is absolutely bizarre for a DA to, excuse me, I’d better be careful here, word na zi in the house, DECLINE to press charges under the circumstances. Altercation, check. Injury, check. Stubborn suspect standing mute? Check. Now here’s where you’re playing your stupid game, weasel. I support Cable’s right to remain silent, and never said I didn’t. Lying son of a b itch. What you da mn well know I said is that it is crazy for a DA to decline charges under these circumstances. If it’s not an NFL football team, Cable’s being charged. You’re a lying sack of sh it. You probably work for the Raiders. Whatever you do, your parents raised one dishonest scumbags, that’s for sure. Then again, your parents are probably dishonest scum, too.
October 22nd, 2009 at 5:39 pm
Look,
all seriousness aside, Hanson should have taken what hte Raiders offered. Football is a physcial business. I am certain this is not the first time coaches fight nor the last. I mean did they ever file a lawsuit against Buddy Ryan for throwing the punch at Kevin Gilbride on TV?
Guys fight in practice and coaches have scuffle. It is unfortunate Hanson’s jaw broke but you act like real mean and settles it.
Goodluck getting your money Hanson tryhing to sue Al. I believe Shanahan has yet to get his money and it has been only 20 something years.
October 22nd, 2009 at 5:40 pm
“real men”
October 22nd, 2009 at 5:45 pm
Totally different outlook on NFL Playbook towards the Raiders.
Theisman saying Russell to the TEs are going to get a couple of TDs
Sharpe says Russell getting the ball out quicker
They highlight Trevor Scott getting after the QB.
They both pick the Raiders…..
Sharpe “they looked like a football team”
October 22nd, 2009 at 5:47 pm
# vegas raider Says:
October 22nd, 2009 at 5:28 pm
And the Randy Hanson suicide watch begins……….
…………..
A quick remedy to any suicidal depression he might have is to watch Raider football games this season.
October 22nd, 2009 at 5:53 pm
AlisGod, Shanahan never sued Davis for his back wages. He let it go. He got plenty enough revenge. check his coaching record vs. the Raiders. Stop being such a lying turd. Are you ever honest?
October 22nd, 2009 at 5:53 pm
Gary Russell made a huge difference in that game as well. So when Luke Lawton was dropping those same passes earlier…it did have an impact.
I expect Schilens to help out.
Thankfully Cable has to “think” about what rookie will receive less snaps….at least that’s progress
October 22nd, 2009 at 5:54 pm
# alisgod Says:
October 22nd, 2009 at 5:40 pm
“real men”
…..
2-4
October 22nd, 2009 at 5:56 pm
SnB, do you honestly think Cable makes one single decision as to what receivers will get more play time? Did you just become a Raider fan two weeks ago, or what? Get a clue.
October 22nd, 2009 at 5:59 pm
Let’s see who sits, Bey or Murphy
October 22nd, 2009 at 6:00 pm
I’d start a rumor we are trading DMC if it weren’t past the deadline.
What GIVES?! Where is this guy and is he ok or what? Schilens took 8 weeks to get better. DMC could be out for the year or what?!
October 22nd, 2009 at 6:02 pm
Darren is toast, a mid-season knee surgery and everyone expects to him to be back in a few weeks. He MIGHT get it going after the bye, but I’m not expecting much at all.
He was ineffective before he got hurt!
“If you think you have 3 RB’s, you really don’t have any”.
That’s my philosophy.
October 22nd, 2009 at 6:05 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 22nd, 2009 at 5:53 pm
AlisGod, Shanahan never sued Davis for his back wages. He let it go. He got plenty enough revenge. check his coaching record vs. the Raiders. Stop being such a lying turd. Are you ever honest?
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http://blogs.mercurynews.com/nfl/2008/10/05/fox-wonders-will-lane-kiffin-sue-al-davis-for-defamation/
“Shanahan won a judgment 20 years ago, he never got his money, and Al has continued unbothered by the league.”
Semantics.
October 22nd, 2009 at 6:05 pm
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October 22nd, 2009 at 6:06 pm
AlisGod, arbitration isn’t a lawsuit. Al refused to pay, which means Shanahan can take action to collect the money, very easily. He hasn’t done so, because he doesn’t care. He’s got money. He’s got a coaching record since leaving Oakland that makes Al Davis look like the amateur he is. He’s cool with it. How’s Al Davis doing today?
October 22nd, 2009 at 6:06 pm
Vegas,
so true bro. In my culture, there’s a saying that you juggle too many chicks and you end up sleeping alone. It’s best the Raiders stick to one and commit to one. Runners get better as they get more carries in the game anyways.
October 22nd, 2009 at 6:11 pm
CABLE SHOULD GET MONEY FROM HANSEN FOR HURTING HIS FIST!!
October 22nd, 2009 at 6:12 pm
Nnamdi, you’re an idiot. And RaiderNationStation should be called retard central.
October 22nd, 2009 at 6:14 pm
Davis is doing real well collecting the royalty you paid for Jamarcus Jersey you claimed you bought on week 3, unless you’re not a man of your words. LMFAO!!!!
October 22nd, 2009 at 6:28 pm
No lawsuit will be filed unless it’s Cable’s suit against Hanson.
October 22nd, 2009 at 6:35 pm
The Raiders have enough problems just trying to win games without a bunch of distractions. At least this is one distraction out of the way.
October 22nd, 2009 at 6:36 pm
MR, you is a fool!
October 22nd, 2009 at 6:47 pm
Al Davis got his royalties for my Jamarcus jersey. I try my best to wear it with pride, although it isn’t easy some times.
I will be felling good this week though, I think we might be the better team, and we are at home. As long as we can stop Leon Washington and get 2 TD’s, we should be fine.
October 22nd, 2009 at 6:47 pm
Vegas Raider – I predicted that Felix Jones would have a better overall career than Darren McFadden but they have both proven to be injury prone.
Darren McFadden
EAR TEAM G ATT YDS AVG LNG TD FD FUM LOST
Career 17 160 645 4.0 50 5 30 6 3
YEAR TEAM G REC YDS AVG LNG TD FD FUM LOST
Career 17 36 338 9.4 27 0 16 1 0
30 Total Points
Felix Jones
YEAR TEAM G ATT YDS AVG LNG TD FD FUM LOST
Career 9 51 478 9.4 60 4 20 0 0
30 Total Points
Jones has a KR TD and McFadden has alot more receptions. The one thing I would take from Felix Jones is his ypc at 9.4 vs. McFadden at 4.0 but this obviously has to do with the difference in offensive lines, QB and surrounding talent but a 9.4 ypc is still pretty impressive. He has shown alot more speed and explosiveness than Darren McFadden however.
October 22nd, 2009 at 7:00 pm
The other disturbing McFadden stat is the 7 fumbles in 17 games.
October 22nd, 2009 at 7:00 pm
24,
Jones looked a lot more explosive in his little-time on the field. I am just not sold on Darren every being much more than a middle of the road back with fumbling and injury issues. Looks overmatched anytime he is around tacklers.
October 22nd, 2009 at 7:01 pm
i will hunt MR down and behead the traitor. the gold is mine.. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH HAHHAHHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!
October 22nd, 2009 at 7:14 pm
Wuz crackin Nation? Whats up with the DMAC bashing? He’ll get it together. Anyone think Routt or Huff would ever come around? Young talent on a bad team is keeping DMAC grounded. As the team gets better, so will all the players, DMAC included.
October 22nd, 2009 at 7:17 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 22nd, 2009 at 5:39 pm
El Gato, nice try again. The only point I made is that it is absolutely bizarre for a DA to, excuse me, I’d better be careful here, word na zi in the house, DECLINE to press charges under the circumstances. Altercation, check. Injury, check. Stubborn suspect standing mute? Check. Now here’s where you’re playing your stupid game, weasel. I support Cable’s right to remain silent, and never said I didn’t. Lying son of a b itch. What you da mn well know I said is that it is crazy for a DA to decline charges under these circumstances. If it’s not an NFL football team, Cable’s being charged. You’re a lying sack of sh it. You probably work for the Raiders. Whatever you do, your parents raised one dishonest scumbags, that’s for sure. Then again, your parents are probably dishonest scum, too.
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Wow. So you’ve resorted to repeating the same drivel instead of making any new points that support your twisted and uneducated point of view. The first thing a lousy debator does when getting the beat-down in debate is resort to name calling. Good job.
BTW, it’s NOT crazy for the DA to decline charges in a case like this. They had FOUR people (Cable and three other coaches, right?) who had one story and ONE person with a different story. Then they had Hanson on record changing his story in such a manner that it each version was inconsistent. So what are they supposed to do? Seriously.
You understand due process about as well as Tom Walsh understands how to call an offense.
October 22nd, 2009 at 7:23 pm
I believe McFadden will contribute positively but I’m just not sure how much yet. Once we actually have a passing game, he will benefit greatly. I really believed that Bush would have more impact but its hard for anybody to at this point. The one thing I really dislike about Bush is that he seems to wear down way too fast. I wonder if he has poor conditioning? I would like to see him run hard and strong on a consistent basis like Fargas but with the elusiveness to break the tackles and gain the extra yardage that Fargas can’t seem to find.
It really should be Bush getting 20 carries, McFadden 10 and Fargas 5 or anything after 30 carries by the other 2 backs. Of course, once again…alot will depend on the success of the passing game at this point.
October 22nd, 2009 at 7:23 pm
Sounds good…
9-7!
peace!
October 22nd, 2009 at 7:29 pm
24,
I thought just the opposite. Bush takes touches to get rolling, and gets more effective the more carries he has, hence the lack of overall production. We’ve been passing so damn much, then playing defense 75% of the time none ofour backs could get into a rythm. Maybe thats what Cable ment when he said “we have to show success in the pass game to get the run game going”.
October 22nd, 2009 at 7:32 pm
The most frustrating thing about Bush is Fargas runs harder. That blow that Fargas laid on that Philly S this weekend should be coming from Bush at least once or twice a week. Bush and his twinkle toes act has him 3rd on my depth chart. I’d like to see McFadden get 20 touches a game, and Fargas can have 10 carries a game. I’d like to see Russell the Muscle get the short yardage and goal line carries!
October 22nd, 2009 at 7:35 pm
Good to have this “incident” behind us.
Like I said, Hanson tripped over himself and hit his face on a desk, LOL!
October 22nd, 2009 at 7:39 pm
No reason?? How about cuz the Raider D is near the bottom of the league in total D. Thats a decent enough reason I think.
October 22nd, 2009 at 7:39 pm
Bush should be the starting running back with Russell at fullback. Bring Fargas in to spell Bush.
October 22nd, 2009 at 7:43 pm
As for this weekend, NO reason our defense should not be able to lead us to a victory. Another 60% effort from JRuss and Cable pounding the rock should get us back to back wins!
October 22nd, 2009 at 7:43 pm
Kirk,
Whats Bush done to deserve the starting spot?
October 22nd, 2009 at 7:47 pm
Ok ?-guy, lol!
The Raider defense week 2-5? Yeah, no chance.
Raider D we saw last week? Jets lose!
Or should I say 70’s defense vs 2009 defense …
2009 defense will beat the Jets!
October 22nd, 2009 at 7:53 pm
Distractions are behind us … coming off a big win at home … still at home, agaisnt a wounded duck … getting some players back from injury … two wins in a row (potentially) with San Diego coming up next … I really like our chances to go into the bye week at
4-4.
October 22nd, 2009 at 7:54 pm
Hmmm….. One game and all the sudden theyre 85 Bears?? LOL! Ok.
October 22nd, 2009 at 7:56 pm
85 Bears ???
Is that the type of defensive effort that it is going to take to keep a rookie QB who is struggling to under 15 pts?
October 22nd, 2009 at 7:57 pm
Dude:
They ‘aint no ‘85 Bears — however, playing against the Jets this week, they may only have to be as good as the 2007 Raiders!
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:00 pm
Well, the 3rd win has to come from somewhere too then, right, lol!
Can the Raider defense that showed up beat a struggling rookie QB, yes or no?
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:03 pm
Funny as hell what a difference a week makes. Raiders get absolutley destroyed by NYG and theyre the worst team in the league, beat the Eagles and all the sudden POOF! Theyre headed to the playoffs. LOL! Same as every year, 5-11. The 2nd win had to come somewhere.
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:05 pm
Youre the one acting like the Raider D can all the sudden start winning games for a horrible offense despite alot of evidence to the contrary.
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:07 pm
Better D, Jets or Raiders? Answer Jets
Better O, Jets or Raiders? Answer Jets
WTF are you all even talking bout?
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:07 pm
LOL Dude …
Do you have anything other than the standard Raider generalities?
Is Schillens going to mean any more catches from the WR position that the past 6 weeks?
Do you think it was a coincidence that was that dump truck Lawton got replaced by a guy who can actually catch the ball (you know, the dump off guy) you finally saw a decent offense?
Let me guess, that was just luck, right? Russell will drop balls like Lawton did, and Schillens wont be any better than the rookie WRs?
And please come better than, yeah but the QB can’t get it to them anyway BS.
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:07 pm
Yep.
Will they show up? Doubtful.
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:10 pm
Dude Says:
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:07 pm
Yep.
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So you know that I’m talking about.
And uh, why is it doubtful that they will show up?
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:16 pm
Please JHill, spare me your Kool Aid drinkn BS. Yeah, Gary Russell who got cut in pre season will make all the difference in the world! Same with Chaz Schillens who has all of what? 15 catches in his career. You act as if these guys are 5 time Pro Bowlers. Are you actually trying to convince me that the Raider offense is that much better because of Gary Russell and Chaz Schilens? I mean seriously bro, are you that far gone?
It simple. The Jets are better on O and D. Period. Fluke win last week or not.
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:16 pm
Oh, I think they’ll show up, all right! In fact, I predict that it will be their best performance of the season.
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:24 pm
How often does the Raider D play like they did last week?
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:24 pm
arguing with Dude is like arguing with Mrs. Brown, Sackofoshcytt, mrs. madden and dakotex…useless
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:25 pm
Good for you TBone. Sure your predictions are real accurate.
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:27 pm
dude,
Why dont you be a man and throw it down? I mean why dont you gurantee us on here the Raiders will lay down this week and if you are proven wrong, you wont come back in here? I mean if you’re gonna talk shytt, then back it up biatch!!!1
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:28 pm
Convince you????
Why would I care about what you think of the team, lol! This is a RAIDER blog, and I’m talking RAIDER shyt.
You already admitted that the defense that showed up last week could beat the Jets, so what do you mean what am I talking about, lol!
What does Russell getting cut in the preseason have to do with beating the Jets? How does beating the Jets make guys pro bowlers and the 85 Bears?
LMFAO!
The Jets have lost 3 games in a row. They suck! And you are pumping them up? WTF, lol!
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:28 pm
Sorry but are you hedging your bet….
you may want to take logic 101 again. I mean your own bet doesnt even make sense.
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:28 pm
Dude Says:
October 22nd, 2009 at 7:43 pm
Kirk,
Whats Bush done to deserve the starting spot?
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He’s the last running back on this team to have put up REAL running back statistics.
He also is leading in yards per carry.
Here’s a novel idea…how about giving Bush the ball…say 27x in a game!
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:29 pm
Throw it down? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Raiders will not win this week. Guaranteed. I will not be back on this forum if they dont.
ok Alisqueer, your turn.
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:30 pm
LMFAO … 2 weeks ago?
They won LAST week though, and your guys lost to a WINLESS team.
Cmon Dude … The J-E-T-S, Jets!
Not the SD game the folling week, or the rest of the season, or the frickin’ playoffs.
The damn Jets. IF the Raiders play the defense they played last week, they can beat ther Jets, just like YOU said they could, lol!
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:31 pm
Your pumping up a 2-4 Raider team who got beat by 40 not 2 weeks ago so……
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:31 pm
9-7
DRINK IT!
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:31 pm
Recent conversation in the future between Dude and his son.
Son-Why are you always negative?
Dude- It makes me happy.
Son-If it makes you happy why don’t you ever smile.
Dude- I hate smiling, but I’m happy.
Son- if you never smile, when will I know your happy.
Dude- When I am speaking negatively, that’s when you know I’m happy.
Son -Then you must be happy always, you’re always talking negatively about everything.
Dude- Not really, just about my life and my miserable job and the Raiders.
Son- That’s right you must be happy when you talk about the raiders, you’re always so negative about them.
Dude- That’s right son, you have figured me out.
Son- For now on, I’m going to hate and be negative about the Raider just like you dad, so we can be happy together.
Dude- That’s my boy, a chip of the old negative block.
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:31 pm
LOL …
None of us?
So you were in here talking to yourself?
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:32 pm
Dude Says:
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:03 pm
The 2nd win had to come somewhere.
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You’re right it was a fluke. You’re right it had to come from somewhere…..BUT it’s best that it comes at your expense to have to read us GLOAT about it all week. Had enuf? Sorry we won to ruin your week. did it hurt your feeling? Good!!!
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:35 pm
Funny how NONE of you were around here after the Giants game but now after a fluke win your coming out of the wood work.
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:35 pm
Well said Dell. I’m not a fan, I’m a Raider, and part of a Nation of Raiders!
We don’t play by the Rules!
We take what we want!
We do things our way even if it appears odd!
We are the Raiders!
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:35 pm
Tampa game last year.
The Raiders haven’t had a running game since
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:36 pm
Sweetie,
I threw my gauntlet down last week. oh wait..we won last week…where were you at on Sunday when we won….did you enjoy it? It was nice wasnt it.
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alisgod Says:
October 15th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
Guys,
Because I guarantee you they will at the very least give the Eagles the run for their money if not win this game. You dont thinnk for once that guys like Ellis and Seymour and Nnamdi will say enough is enough? I gurantee you that.
if they hang up 40 points like against the Giants, then I will not post on this blog for the rest of this season. I gurantee you you will miss out a very good raider game this weekend.
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:36 pm
SnB,
When was that?
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:36 pm
Dude Says:
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:36 pm
SnB,
When was that?
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Tampa game last year. The running game hasn’t done anything since that game
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:37 pm
Dude,
Do you want them to win?
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:39 pm
Dude Says:
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:29 pm
Throw it down? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Raiders will not win this week. Guaranteed. I will not be back on this forum if they dont.
ok Alisqueer, your turn.
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Will this also include al your other nicks, too. Like Raider Ron, Rader, and many others.
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:39 pm
Oakland Raiders= 2-4
Oakland Raiders= 32nd in NFL in total Offense.
Oakland Raiders= 26th in NFL in total Defense.
Yep, mass reason for optimism.
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:40 pm
My daughter is asking to play, so I’ll be back later.
Nice to see you posting again Dell, and I hope all is well with you & your family.
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:40 pm
Last year?? Sweet. How has he done this year?
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:41 pm
Anyway …
Going to be REALLY important to find Thomas Jones on the way to the QB! Gap discipline from the LB is going to be really key to beating this team. Get them in 3rd and long and the game is ours!
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:46 pm
Dude,
let me get this straight. You gurantee they will not win but if they DONT win, you will not be on here…english please?
please confirm that if they do win, you will not be on here.
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:47 pm
I already threw down my gauntlet last week…apparently you can’t read.
However since you are so good at predictions, I’d like to remind you of this back in April. I mean he has only been healthy for the last 3 games and did he start?
Dude Says:
April 14th, 2009 at 8:12 am
Man alot of you guys are going to be crying in your cheerios when Fargas is starting next year. LOL.
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:47 pm
Dell,
Hmmm… Where were you before the fluke Eagle game? Hiding like the beatch you are?
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:49 pm
Alisgod,
English please?? Funny coming from an illiterate like you.
Raiders win I am gone.
Your turn.
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:51 pm
Guess nobody wants to respond to post 85. Lil bit of reality. Raider fan dont live there though.
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:54 pm
Alisgod,
I am waiting……
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:56 pm
Sure thing Dell. LOL!!
Convienent.
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:57 pm
Oh and I hope all is Flowers and Candy Canes with you today, Dell.
October 22nd, 2009 at 8:59 pm
Raider Dell:
Dude, like so many other Haters, is just trying to make a name for hisself. He doesn’t understand the Legions and the loyalty — he doesn’t understand that you can have hope and still complain — he just doesn’t understand a lot of things … must be a Whiner fan!
October 22nd, 2009 at 9:00 pm
Dude
Hope all is negative with you today.
I have a life outside of this blog, and sometimes I become busy doing something I like. I’m very busy and sometimes, I just can’t bring myself to just comment on this blog. I just don’t comment when the Raiders win, I’ve been in this blog for 2-3 years and they have lost many times during that time.
So, to refresh your iddy bitty mind, I don’t hide and your name calling is so childish.
October 22nd, 2009 at 9:03 pm
The Raiders beat a Favre led Jets team last year surprisingly. Its not out of reach for the Raiders to win but they need to prove to me that they can pull it off. No win is easy for the Raiders and we certainly have no right overlooking anybody…its the other teams we need to catch overlooking us instead. This Rex Ryan Jets team is MUCH better than Mangini’s squad and considering Sanchez and the Jets have struggled the last 2 weeks, you’d have to think they should rebound against the Raiders.
Sanchez is a rookie so he’ll have highs and lows and theres no telling when thats going to happen. Considering JR hasn’t played like the veteran he should, who knows whats going to happen? The Jets have been riddled with injuries so hopefully we can take advantage of that but I don’t trust anything Raiders until there is consistency.
October 22nd, 2009 at 9:04 pm
Dude,
Waiting for what?
Do you see me on here saying how we gonna kill the Jets? No. Frankly it’s an even match up.
You, on the other hand talk so much shcytt about how we gonna suck against the Jets, so you should man up and guarantee everyone that if your prediction is wrong, you’d be a man and walk…
That’s what I did last week you dubma$$.
October 22nd, 2009 at 9:05 pm
24,
Watch it bro. If you arent a Kool Aid drinkn dillusional Al Davis lovin fool you will be in trouble around here.
October 22nd, 2009 at 9:06 pm
Alisqueer,
No you didnt.
How is it even? Jets have a better O and D. So how is it even?
October 22nd, 2009 at 9:07 pm
I don’t care who starts at runningback. All I am saying is that they need a running back to have a real game.
Fargas’ game last week was good in spots. Made a few good hard runs late. But don’t get it mixed up. 19 for 60 yds ain’t going to get it done.
They need a guy that can get 4.5 to 5 yds a carry on 20+ carries.
If Fargas is the guy fine….if its DMAC (without all his fumbles) than fine…if its Bush….but the offense needs that lift.
In my opinion, the guy is Michael Bush. I am still waiting for them to give him a shot at 20 carries.
October 22nd, 2009 at 9:07 pm
Alisgod:
Dude is waiting in line to buy his Yanni tickets!
October 22nd, 2009 at 9:07 pm
“Legions and loyalty” LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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October 22nd, 2009 at 9:08 pm
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Hope all is well.
This Dude guy has commented I only comment when the Raiders win. I know you know how often I’ve been in this blog after many losses.
I guess the game is when they lose, you are required to comment on this blog. Which leads me to ask, where have you been? Also the Dallas game is coming up, I sure hope the family fued amps up soon, between you and your brother.
October 22nd, 2009 at 9:09 pm
Who had 19 for 60??
October 22nd, 2009 at 9:09 pm
Dude Says:
October 22nd, 2009 at 9:06 pm
Alisqueer,
No you didnt.
How is it even? Jets have a better O and D. So how is it even?
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ok then if you say that they suck and if they do “get lucky again” dont show up on here. Be a man if you gonna talk shcytt. I only talk shyctt when I know I can back it up like last week.
you’re talking shcytt, so if they do win, I do expect you to man up and dont let the door hit your a@@ on the way out. Cheerio.
October 22nd, 2009 at 9:09 pm
AZ Raider – You do have a point. Bush has only had 48 carries in 6 games. Thats only 8 carries per game.
Michael Bush
Game 1 – 12 Carries 4.6 ypc
Game 2 – 9 Carries 3.9 ypc
Game 3 – 6 Carries 3.3 ypc
Game 4 – 3 Carries 3.3 ypc
Game 5 – 12 Carries 3.1 ypc
Game 6 – 6 Carries 3.7 ypc
Its possible that if the Raiders wanted to be more of a run oriented team, Bush would have more carries than this but McFadden has taken the majority of the carries and Fargas had 23 carries in the last game. I guess the team hasn’t really given Bush that much of a chance to steal the job because they haven’t been consistent in their playcalling.
October 22nd, 2009 at 9:10 pm
We spanked the Jets in their house last year. We spank the Jets in OUR house this year. What’s to figure out?
October 22nd, 2009 at 9:11 pm
There goes Alisgod runnin again. LOL! Cheerio!!
October 22nd, 2009 at 9:14 pm
The Jets lines are are banged up worse than our sorry lines, Fargas gets 200 yds, you heard it here first!
October 22nd, 2009 at 9:18 pm
Running from what Dude. Are you sure you gone if they win? if you feel so strongly that they gonna suck on Sunday, then make sure you stand by your words….
October 22nd, 2009 at 9:19 pm
Lets try this again…. Fargas thing was prefaced by “barring injury”. Period.
You said it was an even game. How so?
October 22nd, 2009 at 9:19 pm
Looking at the stats…the backfield has had the same amount of carries and these are the results.
Justin Fargas
46 Attempts 137 Yards 3.0 ypc 0 TDs
Darren McFadden
47 Attempts 146 Yards 3.1 ypc 1 TD
Michael Bush
48 Attempts 179 Yards 3.7 ypc 2 TDs
Based on these stats…Bush should be the starter. It doesn’t get any more even than this.
October 22nd, 2009 at 9:21 pm
I already predicted your response on Wed cuz i know that if they win you gonna hide for a few days. then you gonna come back with a bunch of excuses.
I remember the last time you made a gurantee Fargas would start this season and you were proven wrong…you came back with NO ONE TOOK ME UP ON THE OFFER…
shcytt, this is the internet. No one gonna come punch your stupid face but at the very least stand by words bro.
October 22nd, 2009 at 9:24 pm
Dude,
here is your entire post. feel free to google it. I dont see any barring injury..,any other excuses?
I just enjoy making sure you live up to your trash talk. Oh btw, we won last week…did you know? Cheerios mfker
Dude Says:
April 14th, 2009 at 8:12 am
Man alot of you guys are going to be crying in your cheerios when Fargas is starting next year. LOL. Its funny how most of you just flat dismiss the guy and pretend he doesnt exist. Next year will be no different than last. Bush will get his carries, no doubt, but in a back up role in Oakland or somewhere else.
October 22nd, 2009 at 9:26 pm
Alisqueer,
Come on, lets here it. Hows you shoulder feeling?
October 22nd, 2009 at 9:28 pm
Dude,
my shoulder is fine…thanks for asking. I just did some good shoulder presses yesterday…thanks for asking again…
Are you really really sure we gonna suck this week…i mean positively 100% sure and without a doubt…and you’d be gone if they get lucky again? Cuz you know that could be part of their 4-5 win….lmao
October 22nd, 2009 at 9:35 pm
Alisqueer,
Go Google the rest of the conversation and post it. Was about a week long argument. Where does it say I will leave the blog????????
October 22nd, 2009 at 9:36 pm
Dude
Looking forward to your 3rd confirmation so that i can make sure I cover all your excuses in the event we get lucky again?
oh btw, did you know we got lucky and sacked McNabb 6 times last week?
October 22nd, 2009 at 9:36 pm
Good, thought your shoulder might hurt from pattn yourself on the back for one lucky prediction.
October 22nd, 2009 at 9:39 pm
I see no reason to think that Cable will regress to vanilla offense and defense in this next game. He should be feeling pretty good about himself coming off a win over Philly and Hanson.
I think the Oline coach sticks with the running game and short passes off of play action. I don’t expect to see passes to anyone other than Chaz, Miller, Russell, and the RBs. Murphy, Watkins, and DHB might be lucky to get a combined 5 looks.
October 22nd, 2009 at 9:39 pm
I predicted they would lose vs the Giants, Chargers, Texans and Broncos so guess I am a better predctior than you. Hold on, let me pat myself on the back a lil bit here…
October 22nd, 2009 at 9:40 pm
Tom Cable:
I’m a free man!!
October 22nd, 2009 at 9:41 pm
waiting for that 3rd confirmation…
I’m out for the nite. Will check in the morning for that 3rd confirmation. I surely hope you man up bro.
October 22nd, 2009 at 9:43 pm
Run run run. Coward.
October 22nd, 2009 at 9:48 pm
Tom Cable:
Wait till I really smack you, you punk! Nobody is ever again going to believe you, and you sorry azz Lawyer driven drivel. You had a chance to be a man and take your beat down, now you are a national disgrace, and no one would ever hire that pittance. Everyone wins!
October 22nd, 2009 at 10:03 pm
Well, Cable hangs in there after all. Gets the win vs the Eagles and avoids prosecution.
A few more wins this year and Cable could be the Head Coach of the Los Angeles Raiders in 2010.
October 22nd, 2009 at 10:35 pm
17 Bob Trey O Says:
October 22nd, 2009 at 4:02 pm
Can we get the Napa DA’s ffice to start reffing our games?
This one tickled my funny bone.
October 22nd, 2009 at 10:39 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 22nd, 2009 at 4:02 pm
# Lynn from Snot Says:
October 22nd, 2009 at 3:48 pm
Party at Cables tonight
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Yeh, there’s a lot to celebrate.
the 2-4 record?
The overall record in the past 7 years?
The fact that the Raiders haven’t won 3 consecutive football games since 2002?
Sure, party on.
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Whereas this is just the same ole crap…get a personality dude…you just keep getting more tired than your last post….yawn yawn yawn
October 22nd, 2009 at 10:42 pm
Hey Dude….I don’t need any transcript to tell me that you should leave the blog.
You should leave the blog…you’re not wanted, you’re not one of us…you’re pathetic if you want to stay here.
face it…get lost…you don’t belong!
October 22nd, 2009 at 10:57 pm
MaddenRaider, you have no idea what you’re talking about. Obviously you’re one of those folks who watched a couple episodes of Judge Judy, and now you think you understand the law. It’s funny, I was just talking to a friend (former lawyer) about this case, and as I filled her in on the details, she said it was a textbook example of a case a DA wouldn’t go near, and that a half-wit defense attorney would be able to poke holes all over it. Remember, it’s not about what happened, it’s about what you can prove. And they can’t prove much. So read something about the law, or at least talk to somebody with a law degree, before you open your damn mouth on something you know nothing about.
October 22nd, 2009 at 11:10 pm
The Los Angeles Raiders…
It is the best thing that could possibly happen to the Raiders.
October 22nd, 2009 at 11:29 pm
Davis will probably pursue a move back to L.A. pretty hard. Especially to a stadium that is already being planeed, financed, etc. Knowing him, he probably blames the Oakland fans for the latest attendance problems without even considering the fact that he’s fielded garbage over the past 7 years.
One thing I wonder about though. Is the group down in L.A. looking to buy the team? I read the following in an ESPN article:
“The firm would also likely have to take on debt to buy and move a team to the region, said Ganis, whose firm helped develop the new Yankee Stadium and other sports venues.”
I guess it makes sense since the value of a team is directly related to the stadium. And since they’re providing the stadium….
October 22nd, 2009 at 11:29 pm
# Brien the Grand Guru Says:
October 22nd, 2009 at 5:36 pm
MR is a punk and as ruler of the kingdom I’ll give 500 shekels of gold to any man who brings this traitor’s head to me.
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This is the greatest post, in the entire history of posting.
October 22nd, 2009 at 11:32 pm
Grand Guru, command me to smite, and they shall be smoten.
October 22nd, 2009 at 11:37 pm
Nnamdi, I can’t believe how frigging biased that story is. The snarky “perceived injustice” thing is bad enough, but the it’s just one anonymous “Hanson source” after another. Why can’t they get any of these people on the record? And what the hell is an anonymous source doing being quoted on the legal history of fractured jaws? Couldn’t they have gotten a legal expert to comment? And even though I haven’t been doing research, I’m pretty sure people’s jaws have likely been fractured on accident at least a couple of times before. This article is a classic example of bad jounalism. One last thing, I found it rather interesting that Hanson’s lawyer “couldn’t care less” about criminal charges. You know, because Cable’s such a dangerous, threatening man, yet it doesn’t really matter that he face the justice system for commiting a heinous crime. No, we’d rather just try and get money from the Raiders. Hmmm…
October 22nd, 2009 at 11:54 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 22nd, 2009 at 5:39 pm
El Gato, nice try again. The only point I made is that it is absolutely bizarre for a DA to, excuse me, I’d better be careful here, word na zi in the house, DECLINE to press charges under the circumstances.
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Jesus H. Christ, let me explain this ONE MORE TIME, so you can understand. Let’s just say, I bust up to Sacto, find you, and bust you in the grill knocking out your chiclets. You file charges with the local police. They interview me. I say “I don’t know what he is talking about.” They ask you, was anyone else there??? You say, “Yeah, Brien, the Grand Guru was there.” They ask Brien the Grand Guru, what did you see??. Brien says, “Uh, I was drinking Raideraide, I didn’t see anything.” Hate to tell ya, they are NOT going to press charges. They do NOT have evidence to convict. These trials are very expensive and they are not going to bring charges in a case where they cannot get a conviction. No DA will. End of story. It’s just the way it is.
October 23rd, 2009 at 1:18 am
Would love to see the lousy raiders prove me wrong this week by playing good two weeks in a row.
However the offense needs to start getting a bit more creative and efficient.
I have a feeling the team will lose because they will not be able to stop the run and because they won’t be able to get anything going on offense.
Thats just the pattern of this team.
Would like to be proven wrong though!
October 23rd, 2009 at 1:22 am
# butterypat Says:
October 22nd, 2009 at 11:37 pm
Nnamdi, I can’t believe how frigging biased that story is. The snarky “perceived injustice” thing is bad enough, but the it’s just one anonymous “Hanson source” after another. Why can’t they get any of these people on the record? And what the hell is an anonymous source doing being quoted on the legal history of fractured jaws? Couldn’t they have gotten a legal expert to comment? And even though I haven’t been doing research, I’m pretty sure people’s jaws have likely been fractured on accident at least a couple of times before. This article is a classic example of bad jounalism. One last thing, I found it rather interesting that Hanson’s lawyer “couldn’t care less” about criminal charges. You know, because Cable’s such a dangerous, threatening man, yet it doesn’t really matter that he face the justice system for commiting a heinous crime. No, we’d rather just try and get money from the Raiders. Hmmm…
^^^^^^Thats exactly what that piece of garbage wiesal Hanson wants…..a payoff check. Since none of the coaches and witnesses would have back his side of the story….they all backed Cables side….therefore no charges without any witnesses backing Hansons story.
Translation= Nobody on the coaching staff likes Hanson!
LOL
October 23rd, 2009 at 1:29 am
Try Some Reality Says:
October 22nd, 2009 at 11:29 pm
Davis will probably pursue a move back to L.A. pretty hard.
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LA won’t take him. This is a serious effort. They want an owner who knows how to win.
October 23rd, 2009 at 1:38 am
DKnight007 Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 1:18 am
Would love to see the lousy raiders prove me wrong this week by playing good two weeks in a row.
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They already got their one big win of the year. There’s not much motivation. Jets win, by at least 10.
October 23rd, 2009 at 1:42 am
Raiders game blacked out??
Not for me….I gotz the Sunday Ticket….which is like GOLD!
LOL….So, I’ll be seeing the Raider game as well as ALL the games!
October 23rd, 2009 at 1:47 am
# Kirk Says:
October 22nd, 2009 at 11:10 pm
The Los Angeles Raiders…
It is the best thing that could possibly happen to the Raiders.
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Agreed! Good riddance. LA and the Raiders deserve each other. When Al Davis croaks I might head down to a game or two a year. Until then? BEAT LA!! BEAT LA!
October 23rd, 2009 at 1:55 am
# DKnight007 Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 1:22 am
Nobody on the coaching staff likes Hanson!
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That’s an honor. What a band of losers the Raiders coaching staff is. Losers, with a loser as their boss, and a team full of lazy, overpaid losers.
October 23rd, 2009 at 2:28 am
Butterypat, you talked to an attorney? Ha ha!!! Yeh. The classic copout in any blog argument. “I know a guy whose sister’s roommate is a cop, and he says..”.
Anyway.
There is plenty of proof that Cable did this. It only needs to be proven beyond reasonable doubt, and there is plenty of proof beyond reasonable doubt right now. I know you dumb Raider fans think reasonable doubt means there has to be video tape of it, but no ding dong, that’s not what reasonable doubt is. They know there was an altercation. They know Hanson’s jaw was cracked. The DA even admitted that Hanson’s jaw was cracked due to Cable’s aggressive behavior, basically acknowledging there was an assault, in practically the same breath as he was denying there was one. Believe me, this DA’s on notice and there’s going to be some inquisitive press coming his way. He looked ridiculous. You should have heard KNBR today. All they talked about is how full of S this DA was. Tell that to your imaginary lawyer friend, dumb Davis hack.
October 23rd, 2009 at 3:45 am
1-2-3….lawsuit !!
October 23rd, 2009 at 3:46 am
Or…..
1-2-3…you’ve been served !!
October 23rd, 2009 at 4:58 am
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October 23rd, 2009 at 5:57 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
I was on here last night, but didn’t post. MR went on a rampage last night in his hatred for Al and Cable. Dude went on to post that the Jets O and the Jets D are better than the Raiders. Hmmm…wasn’t the Eagles team better than the Raiders last week too? Let’s make it 2 in a row!!! Like Dude said…the 2nd win had to come from somewhere. Well, the third win too!!!
October 23rd, 2009 at 5:58 am
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 1:38 am
DKnight007 Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 1:18 am
Would love to see the lousy raiders prove me wrong this week by playing good two weeks in a row.
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They already got their one big win of the year. There’s not much motivation. Jets win, by at least 10.
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Did you forget that the raiders are going to the playoffs?
October 23rd, 2009 at 6:08 am
Good Morning Rockstar!!!
Where’s the rest of our AM crew? Haha! Did everyone go out and celebrate the DA not filing charges?
October 23rd, 2009 at 6:09 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S, YEH HWNDR,AT LEAST THE CONVERSATION TOOK A TURN TOWARD’S FOOTBALL,THAT IS A SWITH 4 THE EVENING CROWD.USUALY CALLING EACH OTHER NAMES OR ARGUING POLOTICS, GLOBAL WARMING, WHATEVER..
October 23rd, 2009 at 6:12 am
the truth will set you free.
GO RAIDERS!
October 23rd, 2009 at 6:18 am
i hear ya Dirt Lot. You’re not going to this game, right? I think I remember you said KC in 3 weeks.
October 23rd, 2009 at 6:24 am
Wassup folks!
So with things obviously going Cable’s way this week, do you think we will continue to see different looks from our front 7, or do we go back to Al’s favorite Raider 1?
How about the offense? Think we stick with the running game instead of chunking it downfield?
October 23rd, 2009 at 6:27 am
Good morning Nation the only Nation.
This is a great article, i found it very insightfull.
Witch again proves why i alway cheer for our team.
Now that Raiders coach Tom Cable has been cleared of assault charges filed by former Raiders assistant Randy Hanson, I must opine on a few things.
Randy Hanson should be sued, while ESPN reporter Jay Mariotti should take his own advice and, “vanish.”
To prevent any ambiguity, Mariotti wrote a blog in August that Tom Cable should be suspended and Al Davis should vanish. In that blog, Mariotti stated that he reports gossip about the Raiders. In this case, that gossip has been a detrimental distraction to the workplace environment of the Oakland Raiders.
Mariotti is known for being detrimental to the workplace environment from his days at the Chicago Sun-Times, in which he often engaged in heated confrontations with co-workers. After he abruptly quit the Times in August of 2008, his colleague, Pulitzer Prize winning critic Roger Ebert wrote a blog entitled, “Jay The Rat” in response to Mariotti’s public hostility towards his former employer and co-workers.
Mariotti had went on local television to humiliate his former employer by ranting on why he thought the Sun-Times would go bankrupt. The fact that the Sun-Times has filed for bankruptcy protection is no excuse for Mariotti to publically deride his former employer. It was merely an act of a disgruntled employee and not in the interest of the public, only his ego.
It seems to me that Mariotti’s instability diffused into the Raiders workplace through his irresponsible reporting.
Point being that, Mariotti has helped defame Coach Cable with irresponsible columns, because Mariotti has stated that he reports gossip about the Raiders without investigation and under the guise of legitimate news and that he makes an exception to his rules for the Raiders.
He also indicated much malice towards the Raiders, because he has viewed himself and other reporters as victims of Al Davis and the Raiders, because the sports media has to cover news about Davis and the Raiders.
Mariotti should take his own advice and resign from the public eye of sports. In other words: Get lost. He’s not a credible news source, and his presence at ESPN makes ESPN a joke. Of course, ESPN is arrogant enough to believe that viewers will just forget that they employ an agent of defamation.
I will not forget, and I expect the same from Raider Nation. Mariotti’s employment at ESPN is intolerable, and he should be terminated from employment or resign immediately. Though I have no direct power, I hope that Raider Nation will rally in this call to pressure ESPN into taking the appropriate action against Mariotti.
Voicing our disgust and demanding appropriate action with and against Jay Mariotti is the only thing we can do.
Unless of course, Mariotti follow through on what I asked of him by email. That being to apologize to his former employer and co-workers. Not Davis or the Raiders. Rather, to admit publicly that he has been an irresponsible loose-cannon and privately apologize to those he transgressed against.
As Keith Olberman once said of ESPN, ESPN is a, “Godforsaken place.” So to expect such an act by ESPN or their employees is probably just wishful thinking or even a pipe dream.
As Mariotti would say however, “Prove to me” that I’m wrong. If Olberman can admit to culpability for his behavior in the working environment (Google “Mea Culpa” by Olberman), then so can Mariotti.
As for Randy Hanson, the Napa County District Attorney determined that the incident in which Randy Hanson broke his jaw was an accident the resulted mostly from his carelessness. In that, Hanson had his feet up on the desk while leaning back in his chair when he fell backwards.
Sounds to me that Hanson fell over, and then blamed the first person he saw for his childishness.
Any adolescent child has been told by their parents to not do such a thing. Hanson did, and instead of taking responsibility for his childishness, he attempted to defame Coach Cable by talking to anyone in the media that, like Mariotti, report gossip about the Raiders.
In an interview with Yahoo sports, Hanson claimed that Coach Cable made a threat on his life. I don’t know about you, but I think such claims should be kept as a private matter for the District Attorney, but clearly, Hanson tried to defame Coach Cable, because the Raiders organization has been viewed negatively in the past, especially since the 2002 Super Bowl loss, and in part because of an incident in which a juicer named Bill Romanowski attacked a teammate.
As any person responsible to the truth would know, a pattern is not a pattern unless directly connected by facts. Anything else is just fantasy or wild speculation.
In the case of the Raiders, many sports writers (aka, conspiracy theorists) are more than willing to use Al Davis as a dynamic fact to connect all evils in the sports world, like any conspiracy theorist that thinks “they” are out to get them. Read Mariotti’s blog (”Cable Should Be Suspended, Davis Should Vanish”), and you will see that he thinks Davis and the Raiders are out to get him.
It is believed by many Raider fans and NFL fans alike that the distraction caused by the charges against Cable, contributed to the Raiders lack of passion on the field, which lead to a three game losing streak that has been the worst in Raider history.
It wasn’t until the Antonio Pierce insult that the Raiders felt a sense of duty to man-up. And now, Richard Seymour has had the “Audacity of hope” to declare that the Raiders will earn a post-season berth this year.
Frankly, I think Hanson should be sued for defamation, because of this pointless distraction.
At least, that’s my opinion. I could be wrong, but what do you think?
October 23rd, 2009 at 6:32 am
THAT IS CORRECT HWNDR, BROTHER AND HIS SON HAVE BEEN USING MY TIX.BEAT THE J-E-T-S, JETS,JETS.JETS..
October 23rd, 2009 at 6:34 am
Then in 3 weeks, we should have a beer…or 10!!! Haha!!!
October 23rd, 2009 at 6:46 am
NICE POST R8DR4LFE21,THERE IS SO MUCH B.S. OUT THERE. SOUNDS GOOD HWNDR, WE CAN START WITH THAT..
October 23rd, 2009 at 6:47 am
Yes there is, thats why i’m like man lets stick together and quit bashing this team. They get it enough from the media.
October 23rd, 2009 at 6:53 am
MARIOTTI AND OLBERMAN BOTH COULD VANISH FROM THE PLANET AND JOURNALISM OVERALL WOULD IMPROVE GREATLY. NO RESPONSABILITY ANYMORE. PEOPLE JUST DO NOT CARE I GUESS.
October 23rd, 2009 at 7:02 am
I GOT THE COFFEE THIS MORNING ROCKSTAR, I’LL TAKE 2-FINGERS BOURBON WITH MINE THOUGH..GOING 2 B A LONG DAY.
October 23rd, 2009 at 7:04 am
Your right Dirt-Lot that way we can get straight facts from Fox news……YEAH RIGHT!!!!
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DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 6:53 am
MARIOTTI AND OLBERMAN BOTH COULD VANISH FROM THE PLANET AND JOURNALISM OVERALL WOULD IMPROVE GREATLY. NO RESPONSABILITY ANYMORE. PEOPLE JUST DO NOT CARE I GUESS.
October 23rd, 2009 at 7:04 am
Morning NATION!!!
October 23rd, 2009 at 7:05 am
I don’t know why you guys even trip over what ESPN has to say regarding the Raiders. I mean, what do you expect? 90% of their staff are ex Denver players or writers, lol! The company is run by Disney, for crying out loud!
Best thing you can do is get NFL Network. They are very fair. They (AFC Playbook) have the Raiders beating the Jets this week
October 23rd, 2009 at 7:09 am
DELFER ON ESPN PISSED ME OFF AGAIN I HAD TO REPOST!!!
********STOP THE FREAKIN PRESS (Long but a must read!!!)*****
Dakota – Thanks for the post by ESPN Analysts Trent Delfer and Hassellback. They pissed me off!!!!!
Who the heck wants to hear from Delfer and Hassellback? Especially Delfer!!! Delfer was one of the most pathetic QBs of all time. Delfer could not get off a 5 yard pass in traffic he was horrible for Tampabay. He would throw interceptions and get sacked constantly. Many Analysts said the guy had no pocket presence and was a pure diappointment in the NFL. Tampabay had a great team but they would loose every year in the play-offs mainly because of Dilfer’s horrible play. They had to dump this guy becuase he could not complete a decent 5-10 yard out. Dungy stayed with this guy, defending him constantly to the media. In the end it cost Dungy his career and Chucky took Dungy’s team lead by Brad Johnson to the Superbowl to beat the Oakland Raiders (our squad man!!!). Delfer would get booed almost every game and the NFL Analysts that Delfer is trying to portray hated this guy!!!! He went to Baltimore and their defense was so strong they carried this guy to the superbowl.
He was considered an H Back with Baltimore. No not a half-back a “Handoff Back” they would not let him throw a pass unless it was highly monitored and the WR was wide open. Every game he played in Baltimore the announcers would say “all Dilfer has to do is throw the ball away and just don’t do anything stupid to blow that game.” What a hypocrite Nation!!!!
I am not saying Russel with his weight and issues is not well deserved but this guy is taking a beating from a bunch of “has been clowns.” I am so glad the Raiders don’t talk with ESPN, they don’t deserve it man. They make up a story when there is no story. How do they really know what Russel thinks about the game after getting payed a big pay check? Are they just jealous? They are not in this guy’s head. They have no idea what his preparation is like w/o being there. Most of the analysts making comments heard the comments from other analysts. That is their source another media source. I guess if Russel looked more like Dilfer and Hasselback he would be saying give this kid time to develop he has went through a lot with this franchise. It is true man!!!
Lets talk about Mr. Gannon’s preparation. Well Gannon, if you are reading this I guess Russel has one thing up on you at this point in his career he never threw “FIVE INTERCEPTIONS IN ONE GAME, WHICH HAPPENED TO BE THE BIGGEST GAME OF HIS LIFE!!!!” What type of preparation was that Captain America? Did the pressure get to you a little bit. I guess Chucky knew how weak your arm really was and he knew you could not improvise because you were a good study and a system QB.
“The Buccaneers defense held the Raiders to just 19 yards on the ground, and they picked off quarterback Rich Gannon five times, including three that were returned for scores, as they knocked off Oakland, 48-21, for their first Super Bowl championship.”
You see the media paints any picture they want to paint. I hope Russel has one heck of a game against the Jets. I want to see this young man succeed so he can shut these sorry @$$ x-players like Dilfer up! If it was not someone taking time with Dilfer and no other QB talent out there available for Baltimore he would have never went to the super bowl. Baltimore could not find anyone else so they chose Dilfer until they transitioned to another QB. Dilfer calls himself a Christian what a hypocrite; he knows darn well he could not make any of the throws he is referring to in his article. He was not consistent at all, not one bit. Most teams just carried him as a back up, just in case.
Check out Hasselbeck’s bio it speaks for it self. These guys were so sorry all they could be were analysts. How pathetic!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Hasselbeck
What a joke, don’t throw stones with “glass arms” gentleman.
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ESPN analyst Trent Dilfer played quarterback for 14 seasons with four NFL teams, including the Baltimore Ravens, whom he quarterbacked to the Super Bowl title in 2000. “My problem with JaMarcus Russell,” Dilfer said, “is that he’s not improving, not putting his best into the position to be successful. When you look at it closely, you can’t find any excuses for this guy.”
Dakota Says:
October 22nd, 2009 at 10:54 am
people hating on Russell:
October 23rd, 2009 at 7:12 am
FOX DEFINITLY HAS THERE PROBLEM’S TO CJ,JUST SEEM’S LIKE NEW’S REPORTING OVERALL IS NOT WHAT IT USED TO BE. BUT THEN WHAT IS ..
October 23rd, 2009 at 7:13 am
Good for the Napa DA, the District Attorney’s job is to protect and speak for the victim’s. If the “victim” is not co-operating, acting fishy and speaking more to the media than the DA, than they had no choice but to drop all charges.
The DA than squashed any hope Hanson had civilly by giving plenty of ammo (and of the highest quality being that he is the DA) to any Cable-Raiders Defense in a civil trial.
And I agree with Dirt-Lot, let’s get KO and Mariotti to vanish.
October 23rd, 2009 at 7:15 am
Wassup 4eva …
aristabc.com
October 23rd, 2009 at 7:16 am
There is some proof of that man.
The best I can come come to real news outide of my own eyes is public radio.
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DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 7:12 am
FOX DEFINITLY HAS THERE PROBLEM’S TO CJ,JUST SEEM’S LIKE NEW’S REPORTING OVERALL IS NOT WHAT IT USED TO BE. BUT THEN WHAT IS ..
October 23rd, 2009 at 7:20 am
CNBC in the morning is the best source of news, mostly business and on the economy, but very fair and accurate.
Everything else, you got to take in the meat and spit out the bone. Some stations have a little more meat and less bone than others.
October 23rd, 2009 at 7:25 am
hiddenpassageway.com
October 23rd, 2009 at 7:28 am
Morning Raider Nation!
October 23rd, 2009 at 7:30 am
Dakota,
Not to ruin your morning but Gasol is probably out for the opener, and Bynum got injured reaching for a rebound. http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-lakers-fyi23-2009oct23,0,3284804.story
October 23rd, 2009 at 7:35 am
Still waiting for Jevon’s Comeback Player of the Year push!
October 23rd, 2009 at 7:38 am
Dilfer is a chump
October 23rd, 2009 at 7:39 am
Can’t wait for Stossel to begin on Fox News. 28 years at ABC, true Libertarian and straight-shooter, and somewhat left-leaning. Great addition for Fox.
The talent is going to where the viewership is, which is on Fox.
Off to the AARP convention (working it not attending) here in the convention capital of the world!!!
October 23rd, 2009 at 7:40 am
I still can’t accept that ESPN actually has the nerve to put two of the most sorry QBs to ever play in the NFL Delfer and Hassellback on stage to breakdown Russel’s game. These guys were horrible!!!! Delfer was the weak link on every team he played for and now he is going to talk about making plays and mechanics, whaaaaaat?????
That is like Kermit The Frog talking about how horrible the Incredible Hulk looks in green.
What an idiot!!!
October 23rd, 2009 at 7:40 am
ESPN analyst Trent Dilfer played quarterback for 14 seasons with four NFL teams, including the Baltimore Ravens, whom he quarterbacked to the Super Bowl title in 2000. “My problem with JaMarcus Russell,” Dilfer said, “is that he’s not improving, not putting his best into the position to be successful. When you look at it closely, you can’t find any excuses for this guy.”
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I’m not a Trent Dilfer fan, but the man is 100 % correct with this assessment of JaWalrus.
good morning Dirt Lot, Hwnrdr and other AM crew vets!
October 23rd, 2009 at 7:41 am
Randy Hansen was a snitch and got confronted and fell down because he had his feet up on the desk.
Even Kiffin tried to get rid of him. Cable succeeded where Kiffin failed.
Now we can blitz without Hansen telling Al what the gameplan is before it is launched.
October 23rd, 2009 at 7:41 am
# Copenhagen_Fan Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 7:38 am
Dilfer is a chump
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still twice the qb Jammy is…
October 23rd, 2009 at 7:43 am
LMN because he won a super bowl?
October 23rd, 2009 at 7:43 am
CJ: Trent & Tim are smart QB’s … they were never the most physically talented.
its easy for us to play armchair qb without understanding everything thats goes into it. these guys know the QB position better than any of us and neither is considered a Raider hater. not like wingo, schlereth, tom jackson or cris carter!
October 23rd, 2009 at 7:47 am
Lets see a win against the Jets Sunday!!!!!!!!
October 23rd, 2009 at 7:50 am
I guess Trent Dilfer has never realized the Ravens won the title in spite of his play, not because of it. (from wiki) “He became the only Super Bowl winning quarterback released the following season. He was seen as a “caretaker” quarterback, due to the strength of the Ravens’ defense, and head coach Brian Billick’s run-heavy offense.”
October 23rd, 2009 at 7:50 am
They thought so much of Dilfer that they released him to sign Elvis Grbac.
The Browns traded him to the 49er’s to serve as Alex Smiths mentor after he worked with Charlie Frye. Nice Job! He has the nerve to comment on JaMarcus.
October 23rd, 2009 at 7:52 am
Many QB’s have long careers as back-ups. Does not mean they are all-stars. Even a Brad Johnson wins a Super Bowl on occasion.
October 23rd, 2009 at 7:53 am
You know ESPN is about to start talking about the Raiders cause they start getting giddy and chuckling before they get to the story or highlight.
Take us to the promised land, Richard Seymour: The land of respectability.
I think in 7 weeks, he’s become the leader of our team.
October 23rd, 2009 at 7:56 am
Dilfer played in 13 seasons.
His record was 58-55
Completion % 55.5
TDs 113
Pics 129
Sacks 263
a passer rating index of 88 where 100 is average.
I sure hope after 13 years that he’s not twice as good as Jamarcus is.
Give JaMarcus at least 5 years before you claim that Dilfer is twice as good.
October 23rd, 2009 at 7:57 am
Dilfer played in 13 seasons.
His record was 58-55
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right now JaMarcus is 7-15 in 22 starts … this season he has 10 turnovers and only 2 TD’s
October 23rd, 2009 at 7:57 am
# Copenhagen_Fan Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 7:43 am
LMN because he won a super bowl?
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well, mostly because he could make the short pass, a 1st round qb like jammy should be able to hit the target when its only 7yds away..
October 23rd, 2009 at 7:59 am
we’ll see won’t we
October 23rd, 2009 at 8:00 am
“Jammy” hit some short passes last week to secure the win, didn’t he?
October 23rd, 2009 at 8:07 am
exactly, if he started to hit those, we could win, problem is he most often cant…
October 23rd, 2009 at 8:09 am
if all we wanted out of the FB position was a guy who could catch dumpoff passes, then why did O’Neal & Lawton make the final 53 instead of Russell & Reece?
and why didn’t we resign Justin Griffith after the Seahawks cut him?
October 23rd, 2009 at 8:11 am
Since LMN is here, lets pause for a moment of silence to honor our Danish brother-in-arms:
October 23rd, 2009
Danish soldier slain in Afghanistan
Posted: 10:29 AM ET
COPENHAGEN, Denmark (CNN) – A Danish soldier was shot and killed Friday during a foot patrol in southern Afghanistan, the Danish Defense Ministry said.
The incident occurred in a bazaar area around Gereshk in Helmand province.
“It is with heavy heart that I have received the message that one of our soldiers in Afghanistan today has died as a result of his injuries,” said acting defense chief, Lt. Gen. Bjorn Bisserup.
This is the 26th Danish service member to die in the Afghan conflict, according to a CNN count of official figures. There are nearly 700 Danish troops in Afghanistan serving under NATO’s International Security Assistance Force.
– CNN’s Per Nyberg contributed to this report.
October 23rd, 2009 at 8:12 am
I see G. Russell joining the RB rotation, if not when Lawton is back healthy next year, and or when Fargas gets hurt.
He would have been on our practice roster save for Rankin being a raider prospect.
He’s using his chance to play FB to improve his status.
Something Bush should have jumped on last year.
G.Russell will be a RB/FB with us for a longtime.
October 23rd, 2009 at 8:18 am
RRS…
spot on! or why didnt we get Brion Leonard when Rams cut him, i was rooting for us getting him all offseason…
October 23rd, 2009 at 8:19 am
why didnt we get Brion Leonard when Rams cut him, i was rooting for us getting him all offseason…
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Bengals acquired Leonard from the Rams in exchange for defensive tackle Orien Harris.
LMN, what did you think about CJ laying out your boy Leonard Weaver (Eagles) on Sunday? I know you wanted him in Oakland before Philly grabbed him …
October 23rd, 2009 at 8:20 am
BSJ!!!
CLASSY! thanks
October 23rd, 2009 at 8:20 am
I don’t think the intention at the outset of the season was to carry a pass-catching FB.
The reason we didn’t keep G Russell was a crowded backfield and a supposedly healthy OO.
It so happes the pass game was really struggling with the deep game, so Gary Russell made sense. He’s a hell of a blocker for a guy who hasn’t played much FB.
Him and Fargas are very adept at blitz pickup in the backfield. Mike Bush is also much improved in this area.
October 23rd, 2009 at 8:26 am
GRuss targeted 5 times, catching all 5.
I doubt we had 5 attempts to fullbacks all season to that point.
Hopefully this will continue.
The speed at WR and the threat Chaz should provide will open up stuff underneath.
I expect a lot of check releases from the guys in our backfield.
October 23rd, 2009 at 8:30 am
i gotta head back to work.
catch up with you fellas later …
October 23rd, 2009 at 8:38 am
None of this matters. Russell must play well for us to have a chance to win
October 23rd, 2009 at 8:38 am
This game is all about russell
October 23rd, 2009 at 8:42 am
thank goodness this mess is over with..now we can get back to the Jets. Hopefully no more surprises.
What do you guys think the final score should be? I think it is going to be a close game. personally too close to call imo. However if we do win this game, then the momentum is definitely there and we could clean the plate until week 13.
October 23rd, 2009 at 8:51 am
I think JRuss will have a lot more confidence in his passing game with Chaz back out there. He knows he’s got a big target who is aggresive and attacks the ball, makes the neccecary adjustments to off the mark or hurried passes.
Chaz will open up Zach Miller. I wouldn’t be surprised if DHB or Louis Murphy actually benefit the most from Chaz’s presense on the field, as Murphy most likely would play the slot and get a favorable matchup.
October 23rd, 2009 at 8:51 am
Stop the run, beat the Jets…simple
October 23rd, 2009 at 8:54 am
The Raiders must also be wary of the PA pass from Sanchez. They like to roll him out of the pocket and get him in space, similar to what he was doing at USC. With Edwards out there, Sanchez also has a big target who can make adjustments.
Hopefully Braylon drops four or five passes and Sanchez cries on the sideline again.
October 23rd, 2009 at 8:55 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 22nd, 2009 at 4:19 pm
I have next to no respect for the Raiders organization right now. A band of thugs. Ran by a senile owner who doesn’t know how to win. Their bad karma will continue to cloud their future. What a disgusting organization. Until Al Davis is out of football operations, I’m laughing at this team’s failures. Say what you want to. Say I’m not a real fan. Like I care. I’ll be a real fan again when Al is gone.
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Like I said before – Don’t let the door hit on the way out for you are not a true fan…. One more pretender gone…lol
October 23rd, 2009 at 9:01 am
Dakota Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 8:51 am
Stop the run, beat the Jets…simple
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So it won’t be Cable’s fault if we lose?
October 23rd, 2009 at 9:07 am
# Dakota Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 8:51 am
Stop the run, beat the Jets…simple
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Mullet madness you correct but easier said than done
October 23rd, 2009 at 9:11 am
# LA to TheBay Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 8:51 am
I think JRuss will have a lot more confidence in his passing game with Chaz back out there. He knows he’s got a big target who is aggresive and attacks the ball, makes the neccecary adjustments to off the mark or hurried passes.
Chaz will open up Zach Miller. I wouldn’t be surprised if DHB or Louis Murphy actually benefit the most from Chaz’s presense on the field, as Murphy most likely would play the slot and get a favorable matchup.
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Perhaps dhb may have a fire lit inside since craptree is starting now.
Let me tell it, Murphy should be the starter over dhb this week with jlh in the slot
October 23rd, 2009 at 9:15 am
Bo,
Cable has lorded over, I believe, 7 embarrassing blowout defeats in his short tenure here in Oakland. He was 11-35 as a college HC and is now 6-12 as an NFL head coach, and this team will not finish better than 6-10 this year. His teams often look lost, unprepared and uninspired, which is an indictment of his coaching skills.
If we lose at home to a Jets team and look uninspired and lost doing so, then yes, it would be his fault.
Actually, it is Al’s fault for creating the situation in which the Raiders find themselves…with a coach that is in over his head. But like everyone says, you can’t change the owner, so I am focusing on Cable. Love the guy as an o-line coach (certainly not an o-line talent evaluator thought) but he has to go for us to move forward.
Stability at the coaching spot is important, but you have to replace this totally incompetent fellow. We need stability with a legit NFL HC. Cable has proven many times over that he is not head coaching material.
I am just crossing my fingers that Al somehow finds a decent HC this time around…..better than just treading water with The Buffoon.
October 23rd, 2009 at 9:18 am
Thank the Most High that this is the last week that pink shyt will be sported by the NFL teams.Look like a bunch of damn f@ggots
October 23rd, 2009 at 9:22 am
# RaiderRockstar Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 8:19 am
why didnt we get Brion Leonard when Rams cut him, i was rooting for us getting him all offseason…
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Bengals acquired Leonard from the Rams in exchange for defensive tackle Orien Harris.
LMN, what did you think about CJ laying out your boy Leonard Weaver (Eagles) on Sunday? I know you wanted him in Oakland before Philly grabbed him …
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Leonard weaver?? was i coveting him?? i was surely coveting Brian Leonard… maybe both, sorry cant remember to be honest =)
October 23rd, 2009 at 9:22 am
but anyhoo, both would have done our run-game good =)
October 23rd, 2009 at 9:30 am
Dakota Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 9:15 am
Bo,
Cable has lorded over, I believe, 7 embarrassing blowout defeats in his short tenure here in Oakland. He was 11-35 as a college HC and is now 6-12 as an NFL head coach, and this team will not finish better than 6-10 this year. His teams often look lost, unprepared and uninspired, which is an indictment of his coaching skills.
If we lose at home to a Jets team and look uninspired and lost doing so, then yes, it would be his fault.
Actually, it is Al’s fault for creating the situation in which the Raiders find themselves…with a coach that is in over his head. But like everyone says, you can’t change the owner, so I am focusing on Cable. Love the guy as an o-line coach (certainly not an o-line talent evaluator thought) but he has to go for us to move forward.
Stability at the coaching spot is important, but you have to replace this totally incompetent fellow. We need stability with a legit NFL HC. Cable has proven many times over that he is not head coaching material.
I am just crossing my fingers that Al somehow finds a decent HC this time around…..better than just treading water with The Buffoon.
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Factually I cannot disagree. I just do not think Al would pick a better replacement if he fired Cable.
Cable seems to work with Al (requirement #1)
He plays few dumb head games (no Art Shell vs. Porter crap)
He can sometimes get the team to play with heart (more than Kiffin, Shell, Norv or Callahan can say)
Somehow the penalties are down (inconceivable before)
Cable has done more than any recent coach to dump the malcontents and cancers.
So far, Cable’s real weaknesses are as an offensive coordinator. If he doesn’t improve, the reasons above should allow him to stay as HC and find someone better to design the offense. And a GM would help Cable a lot so he isn’t stuck with busts like McFelldown.
October 23rd, 2009 at 9:32 am
McFelldown?
RUE THE DAY!!!!!!!
October 23rd, 2009 at 9:33 am
Dmac has had 1 game when he was given over 20 carries and what happened?
This is why Cable is an idiot. Not once has he ever given dmac the ball 20 times.
Doesnt it make you guys wonder why Russell went to Cable last year and requested more of DMAC?
Please Bo you will eat your words just like you ate that activator juice while getting dogged on the hoop court in Venice
October 23rd, 2009 at 9:36 am
Many will disagree, but Fargas should be getting the bulk of the carries until proven unable to do so effectively.
He was money vs. the Eagles.
The numbers don’t tell the story. Guy’s a football player.
October 23rd, 2009 at 9:38 am
Russell should scramble more.
October 23rd, 2009 at 9:40 am
When Dmac returns after the bye bet ya he starts
October 23rd, 2009 at 9:42 am
Rue rue rue your boat, gently down the stream…
I will eat your rue sandwich when DMAC stays healthy, averages over 4 yds/carry, 50 yards/gm receiving, stops fumbling, and isn’t his own leading tackler.
When was the last time a RB made the Pro Bowl on defense?
October 23rd, 2009 at 9:42 am
I loved that Fargas sweep left where he dropped the shoulder and creamed the Eagle tackler.
Fargas popped up with his helmet cockeyed and his eyes crossed. And the Eagles trainer came running on the field AGAIN.
No complaints.
DMAC should be out in pass patterns and running back kickoffs when he returns.
October 23rd, 2009 at 9:49 am
Hanson compares prosecutor’s decision to ‘77 AFC championship
Posted by Mike Florio on October 23, 2009 9:02 AM ET
Raiders defensive assistant Randy Hanson is a lifelong Raiders fan. And Hanson’s current predicament, flowing from his belief that the current coach of the team he loves broke Hanson’s jaw and threatened to kill him, has not altered Hanson’s point of view.
Frankly, we’re starting to think that Hanson is overdoing it, possibly on the advice of a lawyer who realizes that anything other than unequivocal worship of the silver and black would be used against Hanson once he files a multi-million-dollar lawsuit against the franchise that knows a thing or two about navigating the plaintiff’s side of the civil justice system.
Per Michael Silver of Yahoo! Sports, Hanson bizarrely has compared the decision of Napa prosecutors not to charge Cable with assault to a perceived bad call in the 1977 AFC Championship between the Raiders and the Broncos.
In that game, Denver running back Rob Lytle appeared to fumble the ball. The Raiders recovered and were headed for an easy touchdown until it was learned that the officials had ruled that Lytle was down before he fumbled.
And so, regarding Thursday’s decision not to prosecute Cable, Hanson says that “it felt like the Lytle fumble all over again.”
Seriously.
“The Raiders would’ve gone to the Super Bowl,” Hanson said. “But they blew the whistle, and all [Oakland fans] could do was shake our heads.”
Hanson also expressed satisfaction that the decision came when it did. “If there’s a silver lining,” he said, “it’s that they got this out of the way on a Thursday, and now they can focus on [playing] the Jets [Sunday]. This is a really important game, and maybe this decision will help them win.”
We’re kind of hoping that this is all an act from Hanson. If it isn’t, the guy really needs to get his priorities straight.
He believes that the coach of the Raiders physically attacked him, and Hanson has said that he literally feared for his life. Hanson thereafter was cast aside by the team, prevented from working for the franchise he supposedly loves while still being paid. Even if he’d been born with a birthmark his forehead that matches the team’s helmet logo, the manner in which he has been treated should have resulted in Hanson setting aside any fanboy tendencies, at least until his situation is fully resolved.
Indeed, if he truly was gratified by the removal of the distraction, then why did he create a distraction in the first place? And if he’s concerned about the team being focused, why does he seem so intent on filing a lawsuit?
We’re not saying he shouldn’t sue. Hanson’s jaw didn’t break itself, and we continue to be troubled by the league’s failure to conduct its own swift and thorough investigation into what appears to be a garden-variety case of workplace violence.
But he can’t profess to still be a die-hard fan at the same time he’s plotting a course of conduct that would create trouble for the team he supposedly loves.
Maybe Hanson truly is able to compartmentalize the two competing and conflicting emotions. The problem is that it’s starting to appear to be grossly contrived at best, and downright pathetic at worst.
October 23rd, 2009 at 9:50 am
And calling plays. Maybe DMAC can call the audibles for the walrus?
October 23rd, 2009 at 9:56 am
Speaking at the Global Sport Summit, Goodell agreed that he could see a franchise in the UK. Asked whether Goodell would prefer London or Los Angeles, the Commish had answer that could make fans nervous in some NFL cities.
“Both,” Goodell said.
-PFT
Isn’t the NFL travel schedule ridiculous enough?
Especially West Coast teams traveling east for the early games.
Now they’re going to be traveling to another continent?
Forget an extra game added to the schedule, they’ll need an extra bye.
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:00 am
I say numbers don’t tell the story and you toss out some numbers.
Okay, well take away the the last 3 or 4 runs in the 4th quarter, which were garbage carries to kill clock if you’re gonna take out the run at the end of the half.
Fargas was averaging almost 7/carry heading into the fourth.
And all you had to do was watch the game. He was getting 5,6,7,12 yard runs.
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:03 am
# LA to TheBay Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 9:36 am
Many will disagree, but Fargas should be getting the bulk of the carries until proven unable to do so effectively.
He was money vs. the Eagles.
The numbers don’t tell the story. Guy’s a football player.
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This is why you are a little junior cub scout. Only a buffoon says Farglass should get the bulk of the carries. Without the 20 yard run at the end of the first half when Philly was in prevent mode Farglass numbers are 22 carries for 67 yards. That’s 3.0 yards a damn carry you lackey. That is worthy of getting the bulk of the carries? Take the sherm stick out your mouth boy. Numbers dont tell the story? Ok how many number of wins have the Raiders had over the last 6 plus years if NUMBERS dont tell the story
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:03 am
Fargas was as big a contributor as any in that game and threw a block that allowed Russell to make the TD pass to Miller.
If I’m a Cub Scout and I’m right, does that mean you’re gonna start peddling Thin Mints and Lemon Cremes?
Cause that’s what Girl Scouts slang, Bri.
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:04 am
You know why Farglass doesnt complain? Because he has had a very privileged life that continues to this day. He is overachieving in life and lacks talent I too wouldnt complain. Farglass even knows he isnt good
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:06 am
If Bush or McFadden could push him out of the line up, then fine – give the ball to the guy with the most production.
If that’s Bush, I’m ok with it.
He hasn’t gotten the number of carries to prove it, but in the Houston debacle, when NONE of our backs was getting anything done, the Crash Test Dummy still had the most production.
This is why Cable digs him and will stick with him.
it’s important this team have leaders, and he is unquestionably one of them.
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:07 am
They just showed Farglass last year against the Jets on NFL network and constantly he runs into his own teammates and gets stuffed many times than not.
You Farglass advocates dont want to win you are like little women who only go for people you “like”.
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:07 am
“My god this kid is funny.”
This kid, I’m sure is older than you.
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:10 am
“Saying Farglass should get the bulk of the carries is saying we should have more white rappers lol”
You’re just mad because you couldn’t get tickets to the Vanilla Ice concert.
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:11 am
Interesting to often read here in the past days that the presumed key to beating the Jets is to stop their ground attack. Makes sense. It is also sort of a bass-ackwards approach.
With Jenkins out the Raiders themselves should be able to control the clock with their own run game. Pound the rock, chew the clock and then a well-rested D can go for Mark and Leon and Thomas with energy.
Be the aggressor sayeth GRuss.
good morning
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:11 am
# LA to TheBay Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:00 am
I say numbers don’t tell the story and you toss out some numbers.
Okay, well take away the the last 3 or 4 runs in the 4th quarter, which were garbage carries to kill clock if you’re gonna take out the run at the end of the half.
Fargas was averaging almost 7/carry heading into the fourth.
And all you had to do was watch the game. He was getting 5,6,7,12 yard runs.
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You guys hear this idiot? Farglass was averaging almost 7 yards a carry going into the 4th quarter lol. LOL take the last 3 out of 4 from the “garbage” time! My god this kid is funny.
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:13 am
Guru,
Looks like Cage finally went low coast. All that juice musta burned off his mop:
http://www.nba.com/media/grizzlies/cage-140-051104.jpg
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:14 am
# LA to TheBay Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:03 am
Fargas was as big a contributor as any in that game and threw a block that allowed Russell to make the TD pass to Miller.
If I’m a Cub Scout and I’m right, does that mean you’re gonna start peddling Thin Mints and Lemon Cremes?
Cause that’s what Girl Scouts slang, Bri.
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Yawwwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnnn to the lame comeback. You arent right at all buddy. Saying Farglass should get the bulk of the carries is saying we should have more white rappers lol
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:16 am
# LA to TheBay Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:07 am
“My god this kid is funny.”
This kid, I’m sure is older than you.
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Thou art a child to the Grand Guru for thou has knowledge of a child.
But have no fear there is a place for you in the kingdom my child.
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:17 am
Only Vanilla Ice performance I ever enjoyed was the one done by Jim Carrey on In living Color, son.
LMAO
I was just watching In Living Color on DVD the other night.
I miss that show. MR banged one of the Fly Girls I guess. Right before the cheerleader.
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:17 am
Bo I think you are upset because your low post D was lacking
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:18 am
“Look here my little lost subject, if you didnt notice guess who won the battle for starter in preseason? Yeah so that kills your push him out of the lineup nonsense.”
Well, Fargas did have a hammy and McFadden makes a whole lot more money.
With that logic, Russell would be 4th on the depth chart.
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:19 am
# LA to TheBay Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:10 am
“Saying Farglass should get the bulk of the carries is saying we should have more white rappers lol”
You’re just mad because you couldn’t get tickets to the Vanilla Ice concert.
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Only Vanilla Ice performance I ever enjoyed was the one done by Jim Carrey on In living Color, son.
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:21 am
Name me the season either one of them hit a 1,000.
McFadden can’t handle 20 a game.
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:22 am
# LA to TheBay Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:06 am
If Bush or McFadden could push him out of the line up, then fine – give the ball to the guy with the most production.
If that’s Bush, I’m ok with it.
He hasn’t gotten the number of carries to prove it, but in the Houston debacle, when NONE of our backs was getting anything done, the Crash Test Dummy still had the most production.
This is why Cable digs him and will stick with him.
it’s important this team have leaders, and he is unquestionably one of them.
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Look here my little lost subject, if you didnt notice guess who won the battle for starter in preseason? Yeah so that kills your push him out of the lineup nonsense.
LOL only a fool who lacks any sort of sense would talk about production and the houston game in the same sentence. Keep it up and you may just be Bo’s under study for court jester
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:24 am
Are you saying MR was doing JLO?
Jennifer Lopez was one of the Fly Girls. I used to go to the tapings at the Fox Studios as I was friends with one of the cast members.
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:24 am
Name the games where Dmac and Bush got 20 carries then check the results then get back to me lackey
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:26 am
# LA to TheBay Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:17 am
Only Vanilla Ice performance I ever enjoyed was the one done by Jim Carrey on In living Color, son.
LMAO
I was just watching In Living Color on DVD the other night.
I miss that show. MR banged one of the Fly Girls I guess. Right before the cheerleader.
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LOL, so your hands are fly girls now? Well if that’s the case MR is the King of Fly Girls
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:28 am
# LA to TheBay Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:18 am
“Look here my little lost subject, if you didnt notice guess who won the battle for starter in preseason? Yeah so that kills your push him out of the lineup nonsense.”
Well, Fargas did have a hammy and McFadden makes a whole lot more money.
With that logic, Russell would be 4th on the depth chart.
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You scrambling here my little lost subject. This response doesnt even make sense.
AS that bald-headed black guy in Menace to Society would say……..You know you done fugged up right? Ha ha ha ha ha you know you done fugged up right?
Now you said that if Bush or Dmac pushes him out of the lineup then fine. I said Dmac did so in the preseason and Cable talked about how he is the most versatile and better talent of the backs. Yes he did say he would need Farglass as Sunday showed but he still was giving more carries to Dmac and Bush even when Farglass got back showing Farglass’ 3rd string status.
Now as for Russell, I really dont know what your point was but still……………you know you done fugged up right?
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:29 am
Brien the Grand Guru Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:17 am
Bo I think you are upset because your low post D was lacking
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Cage led the league in rebounding, I think, in ‘88. And you want me to D him up at the beach for FREE? Moms spent too much on my braces for me to get stupid like that.
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:30 am
Brien the Grand Guru Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:24 am
Name the games where Dmac and Bush got 20 carries then check the results then get back to me lackey
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Impossible for DMAC to get 20 carries when every third one is fumbled. Game would have to last for 10 quarters.
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:33 am
When Carrey did Captain Kirk and the Fire Chief I was on the floor. Same with Damon and the “Show em the nuther stuff!” skit.
Show died too quick.
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:35 am
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:29 am
Brien the Grand Guru Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:17 am
Bo I think you are upset because your low post D was lacking
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Cage led the league in rebounding, I think, in ‘88. And you want me to D him up at the beach for FREE? Moms spent too much on my braces for me to get stupid like that.
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LMBAO! Come on you didt play hard when all those black chicks were yelling “Go white boy go white boy go white”
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:35 am
lmao…
Greg Papa is ripping into Radnich right now on knbr. Greg wants to challenge Mike Silver who’s on next and Gary is refusing to allow it…..lmfao.
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:37 am
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:30 am
Brien the Grand Guru Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:24 am
Name the games where Dmac and Bush got 20 carries then check the results then get back to me lackey
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Impossible for DMAC to get 20 carries when every third one is fumbled. Game would have to last for 10 quarters.
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No Bo he wont. More than a few RBs have had trouble with fumbling in the early part oftheir careers. We have seen this movie before. Hey if Farglass didnt have the love of the refs he would have had two already and you know this…………..mannnnnnnnnnnn.
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:37 am
The Grand Guru and Norco the Great Sage discussing Jeff Garthia:
http://www.santdeo.com/photo/Meeting_Swami_Ganapathi/slides/Two%20visionaries%20front.jpg
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:37 am
The point is Cable can say what he wants, but he was starting Russell and McFadden due to their salary.
You really believe Cable started McFadden on merit? We all know he likes Fargas, now – because Fargas played WELL v. Eagles – he has an excuse.
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:41 am
LMBAO! Come on you didt play hard when all those black chicks were yelling “Go white boy go white boy go white”
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No thank stank, no thank stank, no thank.
Sistas on the boardwalk were, um… pre-owned.
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:41 am
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:33 am
When Carrey did Captain Kirk and the Fire Chief I was on the floor. Same with Damon and the “Show em the nuther stuff!” skit.
Show died too quick.
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Funniest show ever after Martin which is the best show ever
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:43 am
Sorry Bo, I dont put pink on I put it in pink.
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:44 am
# alisgod Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:35 am
lmao…
Greg Papa is ripping into Radnich right now on knbr. Greg wants to challenge Mike Silver who’s on next and Gary is refusing to allow it…..lmfao.
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I’ve heard Greg Papa go bad many times. Guy is no joke and he clowns hard on the chronicle live show
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:44 am
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:41 am
LMBAO! Come on you didt play hard when all those black chicks were yelling “Go white boy go white boy go white”
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No thank stank, no thank stank, no thank.
Sistas on the boardwalk were, um… pre-owned.
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You were afraid? It was the 80s though lol
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:48 am
# LA to TheBay Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:37 am
The point is Cable can say what he wants, but he was starting Russell and McFadden due to their salary.
You really believe Cable started McFadden on merit? We all know he likes Fargas, now – because Fargas played WELL v. Eagles – he has an excuse.
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No Cable is starting Russell and DMAC because Al said so. Al cares nada about salary i.e. Javon Walker.
Bush will not get just 6 carries this week I promise you that. To beat the Jets on offense we are gonna have to have a playmaker at RB and Farglass cant make plays on XBOX
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:51 am
“No Cable is starting Russell and DMAC because Al said so. Al cares nada about salary i.e. Javon Walker.”
This is actually an excellent point and how I should have phrased it.
My argument still stands though. Cable like Fargas and Fargas came through.
I doubt Cable feels obligated to play them because of salary, but because of status and the say of the old man.
The old man happened to have paid those guys alot of money to be “the Guy” at their respective positions though.
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:53 am
# exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:24 am
Are you saying MR was doing JLO?
Jennifer Lopez was one of the Fly Girls. I used to go to the tapings at the Fox Studios as I was friends with one of the cast members.
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Hey Exla…….you better not say those type of things or MR will call you out for lying. Due to his lame lackluster sucker joe life he sees no one can be capable of having contacts with other people in that world
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:54 am
I was friends of David Alan Grier and my daughter was his little buddy. He used to intoduce her to the cast and J-Lo was not famous yet.
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:55 am
You were afraid? It was the 80s though lol
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I had no room on my tip for them sandy, tore up hoes. As a white boy who knew the score I could afford to be choosey with my beggin.
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:55 am
The thing about Bush and Fargas, like a lot of backs in the league, is that they need 20 carries to get rolling.
Unless we have the luxury of running 40-45 times, it will be tough to get either in rhythm if they split the load.
That is why I say Cable rolls with Fargas and Bush to spell.
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:57 am
I told David there was a guy on his show that I thought was not very funny and would not amount to much as he never made me laugh. It was Jim Carry. I guess I missed that call. LOL
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:59 am
THE KEEPERS OF THE FAITH LIST:
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Too bad McFelldown is a faith-based Raider.
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:59 am
LA to TheBay Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:21 am
Name me the season either one of them hit a 1,000.
McFadden can’t handle 20 a game
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1,000 yards doesnt even hold the same significance it did in the 80s or 90s my lost subject.
As for Bush and Dmac………lol it is rather hard to get 1000 yards in a season when you get about 100 something carries. You are asking them to averaged like 10 yards a carry lol.
Farglass is so great huh? 218 carries for 853 yards. He had 4 carries more in 2007 and the production was less in yards, yd/carry and Tds. You cant argue with this. If the Raiders are to turn the season around and make a miracle playoff run Farglass cant get the bulk of the carries. The offense is limited with him out there.
I PROMISE YOU GUYS WHEN DMAC RETURNS AND STARTS you shall see more capability of the offense…….granted Russell is interested.
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:59 am
LA to TheBay Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:21 am
Name me the season either one of them hit a 1,000.
McFadden can’t handle 20 a game.
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October 23rd, 2009 at 11:00 am
“LA to TheBay ( Keeper of the Faith status revoked)”
LOL.
I stick by what I said, he’s got the jets to really burn people, but he’s got some development to do and having an offensive line to block for him should help.
Don’t get mad at Fargas because he won over coaches.
DMC and Bush work that hard, maybe they’ll get the nod as lead back.
I think the future of the Raiders is Bush (smash) and DMC (dash).
I am speaking of the present, ladies and gentlemen.
You can put me in limbo status, Dakota, but I still think McFadden will be the player we drafted him to be.
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:02 am
# LA to TheBay Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:51 am
“No Cable is starting Russell and DMAC because Al said so. Al cares nada about salary i.e. Javon Walker.”
This is actually an excellent point and how I should have phrased it.
My argument still stands though. Cable like Fargas and Fargas came through.
I doubt Cable feels obligated to play them because of salary, but because of status and the say of the old man.
The old man happened to have paid those guys alot of money to be “the Guy” at their respective positions though.
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What argument do you have my lost subject? Everyone has said for over a year now that Cable loves Farglass. As for coming through on Sunday I said he did that day!!!! Go look at the archives. He played hard and the team needed it THAT GAME.
Fact is Farglass is a 3rd stringer with minimal talent and watching him get 20 plus carries weekly will hinder the Raider offense when the tough November and December games come around
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:03 am
My god hate Bret Favre. Will be very glad when the playoffs come and he throws 3 crucial picks to end the season lol. You know it will happen
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:04 am
Brien the Grand Guru Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:03 am
My god hate Bret Favre. Will be very glad when the playoffs come and he throws 3 crucial picks to end the season lol. You know it will happen
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The Oracle of the Midwest has already predicted as much to every Viqueen fan I can find.
I also love to tell the cheeseheads how much I love Favre. Especially his last pass as a Packer. While they recall the moment wherein he single-handedly ruined their SB hopes, I remind them that Favre quit Green Bay because they would not sign Moss. One and only reason. Boy do they hate reality up here now.
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:04 am
“He played hard and the team needed it THAT GAME.”
Agreed.
“watching him get 20 plus carries weekly will hinder the Raider offense when the tough November and December games come around.”
Disagree.
McFadden is a weapon. Bush is a patient runner and seems to be a workhorse so I think that’s the guy you’re talking about to carry the load late in the season, and I would agree with that.
But Fargas is a slasher. He doesn’t have the most talent out of that trio. But he is the productive back right now.
We’ll see what kind of game those two have this Sunday.
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:05 am
# exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:54 am
I was friends of David Alan Grier and my daughter was his little buddy. He used to intoduce her to the cast and J-Lo was not famous yet.
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J-lo is famous? Since when?
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:07 am
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:55 am
You were afraid? It was the 80s though lol
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I had no room on my tip for them sandy, tore up hoes. As a white boy who knew the score I could afford to be choosey with my beggin.
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So are yuo saying black women are tore up and sandy or just the hoodrats that would be there? Be wise with your answer………….I’ll cut you
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:08 am
# LA to TheBay Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:55 am
The thing about Bush and Fargas, like a lot of backs in the league, is that they need 20 carries to get rolling.
Unless we have the luxury of running 40-45 times, it will be tough to get either in rhythm if they split the load.
That is why I say Cable rolls with Fargas and Bush to spell.
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The GURU says that if Farglass gets 25 carries this week with Bush spelling him, the Raiders will not win this game. Trust me
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:11 am
GURU also says after Sunday only two teams will be undefeated. Minny and NO will lose this week
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:11 am
Brien the Grand Guru Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:07 am
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:55 am
You were afraid? It was the 80s though lol
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I had no room on my tip for them sandy, tore up hoes. As a white boy who knew the score I could afford to be choosey with my beggin.
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So are yuo saying black women are tore up and sandy or just the hoodrats that would be there? Be wise with your answer………….I’ll cut you
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Like I said, the sistas at the boardwalk were not worth the time. Five blocks inland I fell in love nightly.
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:13 am
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:04 am
Brien the Grand Guru Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:03 am
My god hate Bret Favre. Will be very glad when the playoffs come and he throws 3 crucial picks to end the season lol. You know it will happen
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The Oracle of the Midwest has already predicted as much to every Viqueen fan I can find.
I also love to tell the cheeseheads how much I love Favre. Especially his last pass as a Packer. While they recall the moment wherein he single-handedly ruined their SB hopes, I remind them that Favre quit Green Bay because they would not sign Moss. One and only reason. Boy do they hate reality up here now.
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Every word in this post is comedy. Oracle? Nope but you are doing great as the Court Jester lol
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:15 am
RR,
You know you are my boy but I have to disagree with you dude! Dilfer was not a smart QB when he started in this league. He was HORRIBLE!!!!! Ask any Tampabay fan and they will tell you that. It has nothing to do with just his skill in comparison to Russel. It may sound hard to beleive because he road the back of a Ray Lewis defense that was actually scoring points each game from INTs. There were a game or two the defense scored more points than the offense. No one could score on these guys so once Dilfer and the running offense scored some points because they usually had great field position that is how they won games. Come on RR the man was cut after going to the Superbowl. Does that tell you something?
Just because they were vets riding the bench “just in case” does not mean jack! I am not saying Russel is great (not even close)but what gives him the credability to critique another QB when he was a terrible QB.
Tell me one good thing Tim Hasselback did? Here look for yourself. All these two did is put on a suit and tie and talk about how they should have performed when they were QBs. Get Marino, Montana, Young, Randell Cunningham, Doug Flutie, Gannon, Boomer, heck even Elway(I would hate em for it though)to explain what playing QB and winning games is all about but not these two under performers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Hasselbeck
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RaiderRockstar Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 7:43 am
CJ: Trent & Tim are smart QB’s … they were never the most physically talented.
its easy for us to play armchair qb without understanding everything thats goes into it. these guys know the QB position better than any of us and neither is considered a Raider hater. not like wingo, schlereth, tom jackson or cris carter!
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:15 am
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:11 am
Brien the Grand Guru Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:07 am
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 10:55 am
You were afraid? It was the 80s though lol
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I had no room on my tip for them sandy, tore up hoes. As a white boy who knew the score I could afford to be choosey with my beggin.
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So are yuo saying black women are tore up and sandy or just the hoodrats that would be there? Be wise with your answer………….I’ll cut you
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Like I said, the sistas at the boardwalk were not worth the time. Five blocks inland I fell in love nightly.
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The GURU was just joking around with his court jester. You like what you like. I know over there is Jesus land interracial dating is still rather new but here in Cali its all to the good. Hardly anyone out here even messes with someone of their own ethnicity
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:18 am
Limbo status, LA? There is no fenc here to sit on.
Either you feel DMAC will never live up to his pick, or you faithfully expect that someday, when he gets healthy again, he will learn to hold on to the ball, keep his balance, break tackles, play a full season, and find a pair of cleats that fit.
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:18 am
Farglass is most productive? Explain this one to me lol. I’m waiting to hear this explanation that I will shoot down but go ahead
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:19 am
“Either you feel DMAC will never live up to his pick, or you faithfully expect that someday, when he gets healthy again, he will learn to hold on to the ball, keep his balance, break tackles, play a full season, and find a pair of cleats that fit.”
I do feel that way.
Once all that stuff happens, which is not going to happen very soon, IMO.
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“Farglass is most productive? Explain this one to me lol. I’m waiting to hear this explanation that I will shoot down but go ahead”
He made the most of his opportunities.
McFadden used his opportunity to Fumble 3 times in one game, losing the ball and field position in critical times in the game.
If you want to throw the Houston game out, well go right on ahead, but that’s foolish.
Even in a humiliating defeat, you see how hard Fargas ran and gained the most yards with limited opportunies after McFadden went for negative yardage and Bush fumbled.
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:21 am
Watching Farglass run the ball 20 plus times is like watching Josh McCown throw 30 plus times in a game………….horrible to watch and you know you wont win much.
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:24 am
To be honest I am more worried about Mike Bush than DMAC or Fargas.
This guy was clutch getting positive yardage every time he took the field. What happened to his game?
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:24 am
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:18 am
Limbo status, LA? There is no fenc here to sit on.
Either you feel DMAC will never live up to his pick, or you faithfully expect that someday, when he gets healthy again, he will learn to hold on to the ball, keep his balance, break tackles, play a full season, and find a pair of cleats that fit.
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Look court jester, Dmac will be fine not worried bout that. You just worry about getting housed by Vince Young Jr aka Terrel Pryor…………….again
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:26 am
# CJ Legend 34 Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:24 am
To be honest I am more worried about Mike Bush than DMAC or Fargas.
This guy was clutch getting positive yardage every time he took the field. What happened to his game?
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How many carries does the guy get? So far this season three running backs have split all the carries. Only one got 20 plus carries and also we have been trying to force the issue with russell to DHB.
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:27 am
I think I will go get Dilfer and Tim Hasselback from ESPN to teach Russel how to be a better QB. These guys knew what it took to be a winner on the field. NOT!!!!!!!
I would rather take Russel out for Pizza!!!!
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:29 am
# LA to TheBay Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:19 am
“Either you feel DMAC will never live up to his pick, or you faithfully expect that someday, when he gets healthy again, he will learn to hold on to the ball, keep his balance, break tackles, play a full season, and find a pair of cleats that fit.”
I do feel that way.
Once all that stuff happens, which is not going to happen very soon, IMO.
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“Farglass is most productive? Explain this one to me lol. I’m waiting to hear this explanation that I will shoot down but go ahead”
He made the most of his opportunities.
McFadden used his opportunity to Fumble 3 times in one game, losing the ball and field position in critical times in the game.
If you want to throw the Houston game out, well go right on ahead, but that’s foolish.
Even in a humiliating defeat, you see how hard Fargas ran and gained the most yards with limited opportunies after McFadden went for negative yardage and Bush fumbled.
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Yes I agree 3 yards a carry and no TDs sure makes alot of your opportunities lol. Remember the Giants game? We get a luck spec teams fumble recovery and then Farglass gets the rock what happens? Thanks. Who did the team have to put in at RB to even score? Thanks
DMAC= scored winning TD in KC also had big time first down on the go ahead drive.
LOL next!
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:29 am
Brien the Grand Guru Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:26 am
# CJ Legend 34 Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:24 am
To be honest I am more worried about Mike Bush than DMAC or Fargas.
This guy was clutch getting positive yardage every time he took the field. What happened to his game?
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How many carries does the guy get? So far this season three running backs have split all the carries. Only one got 20 plus carries and also we have been trying to force the issue with russell to DHB.
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Yeah we still seem so out of rythm on offense. Not just J Russel throwing but the running game is a big problem as well. I keep looking for one of our RBs to break one but so far all they are breaking is wind LOL!
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:31 am
# CJ Legend 34 Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:27 am
I think I will go get Dilfer and Tim Hasselback from ESPN to teach Russel how to be a better QB. These guys knew what it took to be a winner on the field. NOT!!!!!!!
I would rather take Russel out for Pizza!!!!
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Russell would laugh at you and say this………..”Eh dawg, Iza rich n-gga I eat lobtah,stayak, and cavyah”
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:32 am
Oh snap. BSJ has 8 hours of work to do, and 3 mo hours to do it. Oh snap.
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:33 am
Dakota Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 9:15 am
Bo,
Cable has lorded over, I believe, 7 embarrassing blowout defeats in his short tenure here in Oakland. He was 11-35 as a college HC and is now 6-12 as an NFL head coach, and this team will not finish better than 6-10 this year. His teams often look lost, unprepared and uninspired, which is an indictment of his coaching skills.
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Cable took over that VAUNTED Idaho team that was tearing everyone they played a new one before he got there right?? That great Idaho program?? His teams at times here did look uninspired, but of course that is in sharp contrast to the great Kiffin 3-13, Shell 2-14, and Norphus 9-23 coached teams that came out prepared, directed, and focused. What I am saying here is Tom Cable has a HUGE task of turning around a culture of losing that has developed here in the last 5 years. He is 5-7 in his last 12 games, 4-4 in his last 8 games. After what has preceded him the prior five years, it might be worth it to let him coach a few more games, and actually get behind what he is doing here.
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:35 am
# Brien the Grand Guru Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:18 am
Farglass is most productive? Explain this one to me lol. I’m waiting to hear this explanation that I will shoot down but go ahead
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Grand Guru, I have to agree with LA on this one. Fargas single handedly was the deciding factor in the Philly game on offense once it got close. Go watch the tape of the game at NFL.com and tell me what you don’t like about this guy. He came in and was busting runs of 8, 12, 11 yards when we needed offensive production. He ran PHYSICALLY!!! His blocking was spectacular. He caught passes out of the backfield for good gains. He is our ONLY physical player. He knocked out half the Eagle secondary (all pro safety Mikell and CB Samuel) in that Philly game!! That’s what we need around here! A guy who comes in and busts his ASS!!!!! That’s why we like him. If McFumblor was haelthy enough to play in that last game, McFumblor would have fumbled the game away.
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:36 am
CJ, that is the thing the oline did much better blocking on Sunday. I wonder how DMAC and Bush would have done if Satele was the center all along. Gallery big no excuse of a bust will be back when DMAC comes to the starting lineup again. The o-line has been soft at best this year and it will be interesting when the o-line is at full strength
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:38 am
The GURU also predicts Lane Kiffin will justify his new contract extension on Saturday with a loss to Bama
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:41 am
Oakglenn,
Wish I had your faith…but my memory includes the two debacles out of the last three games.
…and the two debacles before the two wins at the end of last year.
Cable = 6 wins, 7 debacles, 5 losses…not good enough…
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:41 am
I think Cable isnt a smart guy at all but he has balls and the players love him.
He still pisses me off but the team fought for him. For Cable to get my full endorsement he will need better game planning and better use of the offensive talent(Farglass not included)
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:45 am
I dont give a damn if TCU and BYU are highly ranked, why the hell is college gameday in that lame ass state? Well if they wanna smash em on those mormon broads at least they wont say no to anal lol
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:46 am
If McFumblor was haelthy enough to play in that last game, McFumblor would have fumbled the game away.
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Read it. Regret it. Face it.
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:49 am
Wow, Jets are banged up for this one. Just read that in addition to losing Kris Jenkins for the season, Lito Sheppard, Brad Smith and Jerricho Cotchery are out. Smith is a wildcat/gadget play/big play receiver. Cotchery was their No. 1 WR (until Braylon Edwards arrived) and a good player.
They still have Edwards and probably David Clowney (ver fast, big play guy) starting. Let’s face it, that combo is better than DHB and Murphy with those guys being rookies and all. But with Schilens back it could potentially tip the WR advantage to us, which is something that hasn’t happened all season.
The No. 1 key to this game will be shutting down the Jets running game. Everyone in the stadium knows the Jets are going to try to run the ball all day long Sunday. The defense has once again struggled with the run at times this year, especially against the Texans and Giants. The Eagles had a decent YPC average but didn’t run much at all. The D has to prove it can stop the run. However, knowing Rex Ryan’s personality, I fully expect the Jets to try a little play-action and throw the ball deep on one of the first 3 plays the Jets run. Element of surprise. After that, expect a ton of running plays.
Defense has to step up early and stop the run. And the offense needs to put up some points if the defense keeps the Jets in check. Too many times in recent years the defense has held an opponent down only to have the offense fail to take advantage and establish a big lead. The game @Denver last year is the only time I can really remember that happening in the last 3 years. Other times the offense scored a late TD or two to earn a win. Time to get on the board early and often and make the D’s jobs a little easier and a little more fun.
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:49 am
Hey Laker fans……..how bout Isiah Thomas huh? So now we know why they called him “Magic” lol.
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:52 am
# Oakglenn Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:35 am
# Brien the Grand Guru Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:18 am
Farglass is most productive? Explain this one to me lol. I’m waiting to hear this explanation that I will shoot down but go ahead
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Grand Guru, I have to agree with LA on this one. Fargas single handedly was the deciding factor in the Philly game on offense once it got close. Go watch the tape of the game at NFL.com and tell me what you don’t like about this guy. He came in and was busting runs of 8, 12, 11 yards when we needed offensive production. He ran PHYSICALLY!!! His blocking was spectacular. He caught passes out of the backfield for good gains. He is our ONLY physical player. He knocked out half the Eagle secondary (all pro safety Mikell and CB Samuel) in that Philly game!! That’s what we need around here! A guy who comes in and busts his ASS!!!!! That’s why we like him. If McFumblor was haelthy enough to play in that last game, McFumblor would have fumbled the game away.
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Please Bush got hurt and yes Farglass ran physical as usual but the offense scored 13 points! What are you guys missing about this?
DMAC would have fumbled the game away? You mean like Farglass did when the refs bailed him out? Ok and if Farglass gets anywhere near 20 plus carries Raiders lose
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:55 am
Brien,
I agree.
Fargas had one catch, not catches. And aside from a meaningless 20-yard run on the last play of the 1st half, Fargas averaged 3.0 yards per carry. He also scored 0 TDs in the game and has I believe 1 TD over the last 1.5 seasons despite leading the team in rushing attempts.
Fargas runs hard. There’s no denying that. I just think he lacks any type of field vision whatsoever. And the difference between Fargas and Bush is Fargas runs hard … right into a pile of defenders and gets taken down. Bush runs hard … usually right through a single arm tackle from a defender and picks up more yardage than Fargas ever would have.
The defense won that game last week. One big pass play to Zach Miller was huge from the offense. A nice pass, catch, run and blocking earned that one. But aside from that they managed just two field goal attempts. They did run the clock out late, which was key. Fargas deserves some credit for that as does Gary Russell and JaMarcus as well.
But to say Fargas was “singlehandedly the deciding factor vs. Philly” is off the mark.
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:00 pm
Chris………..excellent post…………as usual.
You sir are a great wise Raider.
You will now be known as Chris the Nobility of NY.
Land and riches of this kingdom are offered to you good sir
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:02 pm
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:46 am
If McFumblor was haelthy enough to play in that last game, McFumblor would have fumbled the game away.
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Read it. Regret it. Face it.
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Just like Laker fans facing the reality that Kobe is a punk, you will regret not keeping Ariza and you will be reading more about “Magic” Johnson’s in the closet affairs and how he loved wearing those short shorts
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:02 pm
Wassup Nation!!!!!!
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:02 pm
# Brien the Grand Guru Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:52 am
Please Bush got hurt and yes Farglass ran physical as usual but the offense scored 13 points! What are you guys missing about this?
DMAC would have fumbled the game away? You mean like Farglass did when the refs bailed him out? Ok and if Farglass gets anywhere near 20 plus carries Raiders lose
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Bush got “hurt” alright. He saw how rough that game was and came out. Think I’m kidding?? he went back in later in the game, when Fargas knocked both himself and Mikell out. Refs didn’t bail him out either. You can’t have four guys jump on one guy, bend him backwards, while two others strip him. Doesn’t work that way. Refs got that one right. Fargas provided a spark for us, something you all want to bench Jamarcus in favor of some scrub QB for that same reason. Fargas provides that spark and you guys want to bench him. Jesus.
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:04 pm
Dakota Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:41 am
Oakglenn,
Wish I had your faith…
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Don’t you keep a list of people who are “keeping faith” in DMAC?
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:04 pm
Oh Noble one yes you are right, saying Farglass was that huge in the win is nuts. The defensive pressure put on McNaab won that game. The offense still stinks and we were lucky Asante Samuel didnt try to tackle Miller
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:07 pm
# Oakglenn Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:02 pm
# Brien the Grand Guru Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:52 am
Please Bush got hurt and yes Farglass ran physical as usual but the offense scored 13 points! What are you guys missing about this?
DMAC would have fumbled the game away? You mean like Farglass did when the refs bailed him out? Ok and if Farglass gets anywhere near 20 plus carries Raiders lose
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Bush got “hurt” alright. He saw how rough that game was and came out. Think I’m kidding?? he went back in later in the game, when Fargas knocked both himself and Mikell out. Refs didn’t bail him out either. You can’t have four guys jump on one guy, bend him backwards, while two others strip him. Doesn’t work that way. Refs got that one right. Fargas provided a spark for us, something you all want to bench Jamarcus in favor of some scrub QB for that same reason. Fargas provides that spark and you guys want to bench him. Jesus.
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My brother Oakglenn is confused but not one hand shall touch him for the GURU’s legion will haunt you down hang you, ravish your wife and kill all offspring. He is a top mercenary and when you are a merc you are usually crazy
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:07 pm
Brien the Grand Guru Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:00 pm
Chris………..excellent post…………as usual.
You sir are a great wise Raider.
You will now be known as Chris the Nobility of NY.
Land and riches of this kingdom are offered to you good sir
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I like the ring of that Brien. But exactly wht are the land and riches of this kingdom? A seat at McDonald’s and a $.50 off quarter-pounder meal coupon, courtesy of Jerry Mac’s corporate sponsor?
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:09 pm
Glenn, Russell wasnt giving a damn and you know it. We all know Frye and Grad stink but at least they would give a damn and show some fire. Is that too much to ask?
Farglass was a spark for 13 points huh. what big carry did he have that led to a TD scoring drive? I’ll wait
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:11 pm
Chris in NY Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:55 am
Brien,
I agree.
Fargas had one catch, not catches. And aside from a meaningless 20-yard run on the last play of the 1st half, Fargas averaged 3.0 yards per carry. He also scored 0 TDs in the game and has I believe 1 TD over the last 1.5 seasons despite leading the team in rushing attempts.
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Chris nothing personal, but I always love people busting out the stats. That’s for baseball and fantasy football. Coaches and football people watch tape. You guys go watch the tape of Philly and tell me Fargas was a 3.0 yard back and not the deciding factor on offense in that game.
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:11 pm
You guys should still have faith in me! I’ll be back and prove you wrong!
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:12 pm
Russell did just enough to give the defense time to get it done!
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:13 pm
# Chris in NY Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:07 pm
Brien the Grand Guru Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:00 pm
Chris………..excellent post…………as usual.
You sir are a great wise Raider.
You will now be known as Chris the Nobility of NY.
Land and riches of this kingdom are offered to you good sir
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I like the ring of that Brien. But exactly wht are the land and riches of this kingdom? A seat at McDonald’s and a $.50 off quarter-pounder meal coupon, courtesy of Jerry Mac’s corporate sponsor?
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Come on you know Jerry doesnt have that sort of pull.
For thou art a noble and the entire east coast of Raider men shall heed your words and pay tribute monthly you and your kin. All 5 boroughs in the big city shall kneel and kiss thy feet and all women shall obey your every wish whether betrothed or not.
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:13 pm
“Yes I agree 3 yards a carry and no TDs sure makes alot of your opportunities lol. Remember the Giants game? We get a luck spec teams fumble recovery and then Farglass gets the rock what happens? Thanks. Who did the team have to put in at RB to even score? Thanks”
Thank you Stat Boy
Fargas’ 3 yards a carry and no TDs in reality (not stat fantasy league world)= great performance and big contribution in WINNING the game.
Enjoy your stats. I’ll enjoy inspired football and wins.
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:13 pm
Why can’t DMAC ever run hard like Fargas?
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:14 pm
# Brien the Grand Guru Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:09 pm
Glenn, Russell wasnt giving a damn and you know it. We all know Frye and Grad stink but at least they would give a damn and show some fire. Is that too much to ask?
Farglass was a spark for 13 points huh. what big carry did he have that led to a TD scoring drive? I’ll wait
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In a game like the Philly game, it is not necessarily the points. We scored 13 and won. It was the field position. Do you remember in the 2nd half I believe where Higgins muffs the punt, and we take over at our 15 yard line?? Fargas busts a couple of 8-10 yard runs, catches an 11 yard out, and we take the field position battle back over, pinning them back in the black hole end. It’s those things that win games.
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:16 pm
# Oakglenn Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:11 pm
Chris in NY Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 11:55 am
Brien,
I agree.
Fargas had one catch, not catches. And aside from a meaningless 20-yard run on the last play of the 1st half, Fargas averaged 3.0 yards per carry. He also scored 0 TDs in the game and has I believe 1 TD over the last 1.5 seasons despite leading the team in rushing attempts.
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Chris nothing personal, but I always love people busting out the stats. That’s for baseball and fantasy football. Coaches and football people watch tape. You guys go watch the tape of Philly and tell me Fargas was a 3.0 yard back and not the deciding factor on offense in that game.
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Watch it over and over again. I gave the talent lacking guy his credit for running hard already. He was a 3.0 running back in that game and was not the deciding factor on offense. The deciding factor was Russell not doing so awful as he has done all year
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:19 pm
If you guys want to give credit to someone for last Sundays victory, it should go to Gary Russell.
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:20 pm
The most discussed topic in here more often than not is Fargas.
I can’t remember a playr that brings out the convictions of all with some spicy name calling to add to the argument.
The physical dimension Fargas has, or what physical dimensions he lacks has been so well documented in this blog. The comments must be over 2000, yet he is still here and running hard, not scoring touchdowns, and has no explosive runs since the Miami game two years ago.
The strength of our team is RB, yet we all have our favorites, Bush, DMAC, or Fargass. They have strengths and weakness between them.
Our current team, with a QB who is struggling and has accuracy issues makes the RB important.
My sentiment is, we need explosive plays, yet we haven’t seen to many from any of the RB’S.
I say until the coaches institute a package of plays for DMAC, who is still injured, the player who should be playing and receiving most of the reps is Bush.
Bush will and could be that back, nimble, hard runner, has explosion in the open field and can make defensive players miss in the open field has advantages that Fargass does not.
Fargass should be used in a limited or complimentary way to rest or play in certain situations,like passing downs, short yardage role.
The knock on Bush is his blocking, and yes it was unsatisifactory, but recently and for the past 3 games he is much better. Those blitz packages are being picked up and he is recognizing where to go and who to block.
We need explosive plays, until our passing game improves and Bush will and should be our main RB in evey game, until the changes mentioned improve.
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:20 pm
Baseball is a wonderful game for statisticians. They have boiled the entire game down to percentages. Football is the ULTIMATE GAME, and ULTIMATE TEAM GAME and stats don’t work as well. Let me give you an example: A Pass play is called, the Left Tackle COMPLETELY whiffs on his 280 lb Defensive End who comes free. The Q, sees this, rolls right, and throws the ball away avoiding the sack. The Q makes the right play, but his stat line is 0/1, 0 yards, 0.00% completion. He makes the right play, but sucks on a stat line. Something is wrong. You have to watch tape to see what is going on. Every single NFL and college coach will say that in their post game presser, “Once I watch the tape…”
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:21 pm
# LA to TheBay Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:13 pm
“Yes I agree 3 yards a carry and no TDs sure makes alot of your opportunities lol. Remember the Giants game? We get a luck spec teams fumble recovery and then Farglass gets the rock what happens? Thanks. Who did the team have to put in at RB to even score? Thanks”
Thank you Stat Boy
Fargas’ 3 yards a carry and no TDs in reality (not stat fantasy league world)= great performance and big contribution in WINNING the game.
Enjoy your stats. I’ll enjoy inspired football and wins.
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I’m not even a big stat freak but to say 3 yards a carry is great is terrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrible! Come on my lost subject.
No I enjoy the wins and inspired football……….I go the games
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:22 pm
Jester out. Fosters oil can(s) await.
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:23 pm
# Oakglenn Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:14 pm
# Brien the Grand Guru Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:09 pm
Glenn, Russell wasnt giving a damn and you know it. We all know Frye and Grad stink but at least they would give a damn and show some fire. Is that too much to ask?
Farglass was a spark for 13 points huh. what big carry did he have that led to a TD scoring drive? I’ll wait
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In a game like the Philly game, it is not necessarily the points. We scored 13 and won. It was the field position. Do you remember in the 2nd half I believe where Higgins muffs the punt, and we take over at our 15 yard line?? Fargas busts a couple of 8-10 yard runs, catches an 11 yard out, and we take the field position battle back over, pinning them back in the black hole end. It’s those things that win games.
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Yes and I gave him his little credit. Talent lacking people like Farglass have their part.
You think we are winning games like that week in and week out? No way in hell can we. Farglass sucks still and nothing will ever change that
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:24 pm
Give me a few sweeps, tosses, and screens and I’ll show you what I can do! Or put me in as a slot WR!
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:24 pm
# DMAC Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:19 pm
If you guys want to give credit to someone for last Sundays victory, it should go to Gary Russell.
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Actually it wasn’t. Gary Russell had a couple of big plays, and caught the last conversion that essentially iced the game for us, but Fargas played big in that game when Philly was starting to take the game over physically. That was the deciding factor in the game.
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:25 pm
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:13 pm
Why can’t DMAC ever run hard like Fargas?
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Ok Bo now the heavy duty from all the snow shoveling is affecting you. Take a break man. I’m very concerned about the court jester.
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:27 pm
Oakglenn Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:24 pm
# DMAC Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:19 pm
If you guys want to give credit to someone for last Sundays victory, it should go to Gary Russell.
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Actually it wasn’t. Gary Russell had a couple of big plays, and caught the last conversion that essentially iced the game for us, but Fargas played big in that game when Philly was starting to take the game over physically. That was the deciding factor in the game.
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Fargas wouldn’t have done chit w/out Russell blocking for him last week.
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:27 pm
# Oakglenn Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:24 pm
# DMAC Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:19 pm
If you guys want to give credit to someone for last Sundays victory, it should go to Gary Russell.
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Actually it wasn’t. Gary Russell had a couple of big plays, and caught the last conversion that essentially iced the game for us, but Fargas played big in that game when Philly was starting to take the game over physically. That was the deciding factor in the game.
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Who was the lead fullback on those Farglass runs?
NEXT!
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:27 pm
Would love to see Fargas run behind Luke.
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:29 pm
Farglass= not good
Farglass defenders= lay off of the LSD
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:29 pm
why did Bush not do anything then?? Doesn’t He have the same lead blocker??
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:30 pm
# Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:22 pm
Jester out. Fosters oil can(s) await.
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Foster’s? LOL okay Bo. Man up get some real brew
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:32 pm
DMAC Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:11 pm
You guys should still have faith in me! I’ll be back and prove you wrong!
^^^^^^I have faith, but DMC needs to use his vision more instead of trying to run over people all time.
DMC needs to use more slash and make people miss instead of trying to run them over.
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:33 pm
# Raider Dell Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:20 pm
The most discussed topic in here more often than not is Fargas.
I can’t remember a playr that brings out the convictions of all with some spicy name calling to add to the argument.
The physical dimension Fargas has, or what physical dimensions he lacks has been so well documented in this blog. The comments must be over 2000, yet he is still here and running hard, not scoring touchdowns, and has no explosive runs since the Miami game two years ago.
The strength of our team is RB, yet we all have our favorites, Bush, DMAC, or Fargass. They have strengths and weakness between them.
Our current team, with a QB who is struggling and has accuracy issues makes the RB important.
My sentiment is, we need explosive plays, yet we haven’t seen to many from any of the RB’S.
I say until the coaches institute a package of plays for DMAC, who is still injured, the player who should be playing and receiving most of the reps is Bush.
Bush will and could be that back, nimble, hard runner, has explosion in the open field and can make defensive players miss in the open field has advantages that Fargass does not.
Fargass should be used in a limited or complimentary way to rest or play in certain situations,like passing downs, short yardage role.
The knock on Bush is his blocking, and yes it was unsatisifactory, but recently and for the past 3 games he is much better. Those blitz packages are being picked up and he is recognizing where to go and who to block.
We need explosive plays, until our passing game improves and Bush will and should be our main RB in evey game, until the changes mentioned improve.
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Part of my royal high council also makes good points. It helps me in being the great ruler that I am
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:35 pm
Still waiting to see Cable or Tollner call a couple of bubble screen passes to DHB or Murphy or some freakin 10 yard hitches, curls or outs!
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:35 pm
# DKnight007 Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:32 pm
DMAC Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:11 pm
You guys should still have faith in me! I’ll be back and prove you wrong!
^^^^^^I have faith, but DMC needs to use his vision more instead of trying to run over people all time.
DMC needs to use more slash and make people miss instead of trying to run them over.
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DMAC is listening to too many haters out there about him not running between the tackles. He will be fine I have unshakeable confidence in that
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:36 pm
“I really think I should go back to wearing my Addidas, instead of these chitty Nikes!”
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:37 pm
Indeed, Fargas looked young all over again with his trademark crash-test running style. He burst through gaps and took on tacklers head-first, sending Eagles strong safety Quintin Mikell staggering to the sideline after a 14-yard run in the third quarter.
Fargas also remains the team’s best blocking back, and that was huge against the blitz-happy Eagles.
On one play, he picked up a corner blitz to give quarterback JaMarcus Russell time to get off a 19-yard screen pass.
“You need a guy who will go in there with his shoulders square,” Cable said. “That’s what he does.”
-David White, Chronicle Staff Writer
White said it for me. Fargas is a mench.
He doesn’t have the stats. I don’t do FFL, so I really don’t care.
Stat sheets don’t show how hard a guy runs or how dedicated he is. Stat sheets won’t show blocking ability. Stat sheets show numbers.
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:38 pm
# Oakglenn Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:29 pm
why did Bush not do anything then?? Doesn’t He have the same lead blocker??
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How many carries did he get? Thank you. We seen Bush get 20 plus carries one time…………..one time…………….onnnneeeeeeeeeeeeeee………..and what happened?
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:39 pm
This team needs leaders. Examples.
Fargas doesn’t have the raw talent the other backs do.
So what’s they’re excuse?
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:40 pm
Wow you agree with David White? LOL you will be a court jester in no time.
I dont play FFL either. Never have an never will Fantast sports are a joke
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:41 pm
Fargas broke tackles. Mike Bush didn’t. McFadden goes down if you breath on him. Zack Miller broke tackles. He scored. Other teams guys break tackles. Other teams win.
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:42 pm
Farglass has been a leader? Oh yeah so how was he leading all these losing ass years? Farglass has been here since the super bow hangover. Please explain
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:42 pm
The number of carries is not the excuse, they’re all within 2 carries of eachother. Bush has two red zone TDs, McFadden 1.
They didn’t run Fargas in the red zone. Cable thought a reverse to DHB or a pass to Javon would be better ideas.
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:42 pm
# DKnight007 Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:35 pm
Still waiting to see Cable or Tollner call a couple of bubble screen passes to DHB or Murphy or some freakin 10 yard hitches, curls or outs!
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For real! Cable is a dumb phuck
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:45 pm
# LA to TheBay Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:39 pm
This team needs leaders. Examples.
Fargas doesn’t have the raw talent the other backs do.
So what’s they’re excuse?
# LA to TheBay Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:42 pm
The number of carries is not the excuse, they’re all within 2 carries of eachother. Bush has two red zone TDs, McFadden 1.
They didn’t run Fargas in the red zone. Cable thought a reverse to DHB or a pass to Javon would be better ideas.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ha ha ha ha HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.
Where have you been all this time when in his career they have tried to run him in the redzone and he gets nada. Remember in NY two weeks ago? Thanks Point proved
NEXT!
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:46 pm
Farglass in the redzone lol hahahahahahahahahahahahaha my god LAtoBay you are one funny guy. Too bad you werent on comicview those last few struggling years
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:48 pm
Hahahahahahahahahahahahah of my god the GURU’s stomach is hurting from the laughter
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:49 pm
As I have now said three times, why don’t we all go watch the tape, break it down play by play, and you can all tell me exactly what you don’t like about Fargas. As everyone in the league says, “The tape doesn’t lie”.
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:50 pm
Its easy to run when the offensive line actually produces a hole. Bush if not hurt would’ve had similar success.
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:50 pm
# Oakglenn Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:41 pm
Fargas broke tackles. Mike Bush didn’t. McFadden goes down if you breath on him. Zack Miller broke tackles. He scored. Other teams guys break tackles. Other teams win.
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Its comic relief in here today. Maybe you outta watch the SD game again when he was running through the middle of the field and was breaking tackles. Farglass broke only a few tackles and hardly ever breaks tackles. He runs into the defender
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:51 pm
# Oakglenn Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:49 pm
As I have now said three times, why don’t we all go watch the tape, break it down play by play, and you can all tell me exactly what you don’t like about Fargas. As everyone in the league says, “The tape doesn’t lie”.
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Yes and the tape over the last 6 seasons show he isnt worthy of getting 20 plus carries a game and will never be a starter for a playoff team
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:53 pm
Justin Fargus is due to score a TD. Before this year, he had 7 TD’s in 698 carries or 1 every 99.7 carries. This year, he has rushed 46 times without a score. So the odds are increasing that soon, he will cross the goal line with the ball.
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:54 pm
DMAC Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:36 pm
“I really think I should go back to wearing my Addidas, instead of these chitty Nikes!”
^^^^^^^LOL….Cable and Tollner need to also wake the hell up and start using you better. They need to put you in the slot more get you the ball in space with bubble screens and RB screens….split you wide and throw the ball to you downfield. They also need to implement the WildCat to keep defenses off balance like what Miami does……but NOOOOOOOOO creativity or imagination or thinking out of the box by Cable and Tollner.
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:56 pm
LAtoBay, come on one more time tell me about them not giving Farglass a chance in the redzone again
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:58 pm
“Farglass has been a leader? Oh yeah so how was he leading all these losing ass years? Farglass has been here since the super bow hangover. Please explain”
As if a leader and a good player never played on a poor team?
Come on, Brien.
There’s 200 posters in here that will tell you why the team sucked the last 6+ years and it rhymes with “Hal Mavis.”
Here, since you respond to stats:
-Fargas has lost 4 fumbles in his career. DMC could do that in a game, the way he’s been looking lately.
-Fargas ran for 1,009 yards starting 7 games
-Fargas was the leading rusher the past 3 seasons
-Fargas has more experience than Bush and McFadden combined
-Fargas is a leader and team captain
-Fargas was selected by his teammates as team MVP (shared one year with Aso) by winning Commitment to Excellence award in consecutive years.
-Led the Cable Bumaye chant. The whole team, not surprisingly, followed suit.
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:59 pm
Cable is forever an idiot with the play calling. There are many things he can try to do with the offense but also keep in mind Russell has even proved he can hit a WR consistently
October 23rd, 2009 at 1:01 pm
Fargas is solid gives 110 percent, good at finishing runs strong, fighting for extra yards, and a pass protection.
Bush, has good vision, quicker feet.
October 23rd, 2009 at 1:02 pm
I won’t argue that Fargas is not effective in the red zone, however the team in general is not particularly effective there either. My point was, compare the stats, since you place value in them.
Even without the red zone TDs, would you argue that another Raider running back has had a better performance this year?
The stats are all similar, almost identical. They’re all under 4 a carry and Fargas hasn’t fumbled. When he got the nod, the team won.
October 23rd, 2009 at 1:02 pm
We should be throwing to Zach Miller in the red zone anyway.
October 23rd, 2009 at 1:02 pm
He didn’t get the nob bush got hurt.
October 23rd, 2009 at 1:03 pm
# LA to TheBay Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 12:58 pm
“Farglass has been a leader? Oh yeah so how was he leading all these losing ass years? Farglass has been here since the super bow hangover. Please explain”
As if a leader and a good player never played on a poor team?
Come on, Brien.
There’s 200 posters in here that will tell you why the team sucked the last 6+ years and it rhymes with “Hal Mavis.”
Here, since you respond to stats:
-Fargas has lost 4 fumbles in his career. DMC could do that in a game, the way he’s been looking lately.
-Fargas ran for 1,009 yards starting 7 games
-Fargas was the leading rusher the past 3 seasons
-Fargas has more experience than Bush and McFadden combined
-Fargas is a leader and team captain
-Fargas was selected by his teammates as team MVP (shared one year with Aso) by winning Commitment to Excellence award in consecutive years.
-Led the Cable Bumaye chant. The whole team, not surprisingly, followed suit.
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No no no my little lost subject talk about Farglass in the red zone. It will please the GURU
October 23rd, 2009 at 1:03 pm
I believe McFadden fumbled in one of his red zone attempts, and coughed the ball up in a critical time in the game vs. Denver.
October 23rd, 2009 at 1:04 pm
He’s not going to get the nod this week either if bush is healthy….Bush is the better back plain and simple…If you can’t see that then you have a really bad eye for talent. Bigger, Stronger, Faster, with better vision.
October 23rd, 2009 at 1:05 pm
“No no no my little lost subject talk about Farglass in the red zone. It will please the GURU”
Why?
I’m talking about overall play and more importantly, leadership.
New Post, BTW.
October 23rd, 2009 at 1:06 pm
# LA to TheBay Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 1:02 pm
I won’t argue that Fargas is not effective in the red zone, however the team in general is not particularly effective there either. My point was, compare the stats, since you place value in them.
Even without the red zone TDs, would you argue that another Raider running back has had a better performance this year?
The stats are all similar, almost identical. They’re all under 4 a carry and Fargas hasn’t fumbled. When he got the nod, the team won.
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Effective? Hell Farglass is non existent there! Uh yes I can name better performances by Bush and Dmac in game, we just tried to force the issue with Russell too much when we could have killed them that first half by running it down their throats.
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October 23rd, 2009 at 1:22 pm
Fargas is a good back up…
October 23rd, 2009 at 3:49 pm
Brien the Grand Guru Says:
Effective? Hell Farglass is non existent there! Uh yes I can name better performances by Bush and Dmac in game, we just tried to force the issue with Russell too much when we could have killed them that first half by running it down their throats.
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Fargas plays harder, therefore he is more likely to get banged up…how about Fargas, then Bush in the red zone?