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All that’s left are the lawsuits

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Thursday, October 22nd, 2009 at 5:16 pm in Oakland Raiders.

It’s all over but the civil litigation.

John McGuinn, the attorney for Randy Hanson, told Comcast SportsNet a lawsuit was “on the horizon, but that there was no hurry to file it.

Coach Tom Cable was done talking to the media before he got the news he expected all along _ that no charges would be filed in the alleged assault involving Randy Hanson _ but could be in line to file one himself.

He’ll speak with the media following practice Friday.

– Hard to imagine the NFL having any recourse to discipline Cable considering the way the Napa D.A.’s office took apart Hanson’s version of the story.

– We’ll never know exactly what went on in the room where Hanson emerged with a broken jaw, but Cable took an unnecessary beating considering there was never a legitimate on the record source other than Hanson and his attorney who were doing the talking.

– My favorite comment from John McGuinn, the attorney for Hanson, when asked by a television reporter about his client’s status with the Raiders.

“I wish I knew in any definitive way,” McGuinn said. “I have made an attempt to contact the Raiders. I have not received anything in response.”

Don’t worry, John. They’ll get back to you.

– A fairly empty locker room Thursday, with most players at meetings and long gone form the locker room by the time JaMarcus Russell had finished his weekly session.

– The best news on the injury front is that right guard Cooper Carlisle practiced without limitations and should be good to go against the Jets, as well as Chaz Schilens making it through full practices on consecutive days.

As posted earlier, Russell said Schilens looked sharp. Cable said he won’t decide until Saturday how best to use Schilens, and which rookie receiver would be likely to get reduced snaps.

Those who did not practice Thursday included WR Nick Miller (shin), LG Robert Gallery (broken fibula), RB Darren McFadden (knee), LB Ricky Brown (ankle), T Cornell Green (calf) and TE Brandon Myers (ill). Myers was sent home with a stomach ailment, Cable said.

Defensive end Greg Ellis (knee) was limited, and could remain that way as a maintenance issue for some time.

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  • Brien the Grand Guru

    Wow you agree with David White? LOL you will be a court jester in no time.

    I dont play FFL either. Never have an never will Fantast sports are a joke

  • http://RAIDERS Oakglenn

    Fargas broke tackles. Mike Bush didn’t. McFadden goes down if you breath on him. Zack Miller broke tackles. He scored. Other teams guys break tackles. Other teams win.

  • Brien the Grand Guru

    Farglass has been a leader? Oh yeah so how was he leading all these losing ass years? Farglass has been here since the super bow hangover. Please explain

  • LA to TheBay

    The number of carries is not the excuse, they’re all within 2 carries of eachother. Bush has two red zone TDs, McFadden 1.

    They didn’t run Fargas in the red zone. Cable thought a reverse to DHB or a pass to Javon would be better ideas.

  • Brien the Grand Guru

    # DKnight007 Says:
    October 23rd, 2009 at 12:35 pm

    Still waiting to see Cable or Tollner call a couple of bubble screen passes to DHB or Murphy or some freakin 10 yard hitches, curls or outs!
    *********************************

    For real! Cable is a dumb phuck

  • Brien the Grand Guru

    # LA to TheBay Says:
    October 23rd, 2009 at 12:39 pm

    This team needs leaders. Examples.

    Fargas doesn’t have the raw talent the other backs do.

    So what’s they’re excuse?

    # LA to TheBay Says:
    October 23rd, 2009 at 12:42 pm

    The number of carries is not the excuse, they’re all within 2 carries of eachother. Bush has two red zone TDs, McFadden 1.

    They didn’t run Fargas in the red zone. Cable thought a reverse to DHB or a pass to Javon would be better ideas.
    **************************************

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ha ha ha ha HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.

    Where have you been all this time when in his career they have tried to run him in the redzone and he gets nada. Remember in NY two weeks ago? Thanks Point proved

    NEXT!

  • Brien the Grand Guru

    Farglass in the redzone lol hahahahahahahahahahahahaha my god LAtoBay you are one funny guy. Too bad you werent on comicview those last few struggling years

  • Brien the Grand Guru

    Hahahahahahahahahahahahah of my god the GURU’s stomach is hurting from the laughter

  • http://RAIDERS Oakglenn

    As I have now said three times, why don’t we all go watch the tape, break it down play by play, and you can all tell me exactly what you don’t like about Fargas. As everyone in the league says, “The tape doesn’t lie”.

  • mcfaddenswaggon

    Its easy to run when the offensive line actually produces a hole. Bush if not hurt would’ve had similar success.

  • Brien the Grand Guru

    # Oakglenn Says:
    October 23rd, 2009 at 12:41 pm

    Fargas broke tackles. Mike Bush didn’t. McFadden goes down if you breath on him. Zack Miller broke tackles. He scored. Other teams guys break tackles. Other teams win.
    *******************************

    Its comic relief in here today. Maybe you outta watch the SD game again when he was running through the middle of the field and was breaking tackles. Farglass broke only a few tackles and hardly ever breaks tackles. He runs into the defender

  • Brien the Grand Guru

    # Oakglenn Says:
    October 23rd, 2009 at 12:49 pm

    As I have now said three times, why don’t we all go watch the tape, break it down play by play, and you can all tell me exactly what you don’t like about Fargas. As everyone in the league says, “The tape doesn’t lie”.
    ****************************

    Yes and the tape over the last 6 seasons show he isnt worthy of getting 20 plus carries a game and will never be a starter for a playoff team

  • exlaraiderseasonticketholder

    Justin Fargus is due to score a TD. Before this year, he had 7 TD’s in 698 carries or 1 every 99.7 carries. This year, he has rushed 46 times without a score. So the odds are increasing that soon, he will cross the goal line with the ball.

  • DKnight007

    DMAC Says:
    October 23rd, 2009 at 12:36 pm
    “I really think I should go back to wearing my Addidas, instead of these chitty Nikes!”

    ^^^^^^^LOL….Cable and Tollner need to also wake the hell up and start using you better. They need to put you in the slot more get you the ball in space with bubble screens and RB screens….split you wide and throw the ball to you downfield. They also need to implement the WildCat to keep defenses off balance like what Miami does……but NOOOOOOOOO creativity or imagination or thinking out of the box by Cable and Tollner.

  • Brien the Grand Guru

    LAtoBay, come on one more time tell me about them not giving Farglass a chance in the redzone again

  • LA to TheBay

    “Farglass has been a leader? Oh yeah so how was he leading all these losing ass years? Farglass has been here since the super bow hangover. Please explain”

    As if a leader and a good player never played on a poor team?

    Come on, Brien.

    There’s 200 posters in here that will tell you why the team sucked the last 6+ years and it rhymes with “Hal Mavis.”

    Here, since you respond to stats:

    -Fargas has lost 4 fumbles in his career. DMC could do that in a game, the way he’s been looking lately.
    -Fargas ran for 1,009 yards starting 7 games
    -Fargas was the leading rusher the past 3 seasons
    -Fargas has more experience than Bush and McFadden combined
    -Fargas is a leader and team captain
    -Fargas was selected by his teammates as team MVP (shared one year with Aso) by winning Commitment to Excellence award in consecutive years.
    -Led the Cable Bumaye chant. The whole team, not surprisingly, followed suit.

  • Brien the Grand Guru

    Cable is forever an idiot with the play calling. There are many things he can try to do with the offense but also keep in mind Russell has even proved he can hit a WR consistently

  • mcfaddenswaggon

    Fargas is solid gives 110 percent, good at finishing runs strong, fighting for extra yards, and a pass protection.

    Bush, has good vision, quicker feet.

  • LA to TheBay

    I won’t argue that Fargas is not effective in the red zone, however the team in general is not particularly effective there either. My point was, compare the stats, since you place value in them.

    Even without the red zone TDs, would you argue that another Raider running back has had a better performance this year?

    The stats are all similar, almost identical. They’re all under 4 a carry and Fargas hasn’t fumbled. When he got the nod, the team won.

  • LA to TheBay

    We should be throwing to Zach Miller in the red zone anyway.

  • mcfaddenswaggon

    He didn’t get the nob bush got hurt.

  • Brien the Grand Guru

    # LA to TheBay Says:
    October 23rd, 2009 at 12:58 pm

    “Farglass has been a leader? Oh yeah so how was he leading all these losing ass years? Farglass has been here since the super bow hangover. Please explain”

    As if a leader and a good player never played on a poor team?

    Come on, Brien.

    There’s 200 posters in here that will tell you why the team sucked the last 6+ years and it rhymes with “Hal Mavis.”

    Here, since you respond to stats:

    -Fargas has lost 4 fumbles in his career. DMC could do that in a game, the way he’s been looking lately.
    -Fargas ran for 1,009 yards starting 7 games
    -Fargas was the leading rusher the past 3 seasons
    -Fargas has more experience than Bush and McFadden combined
    -Fargas is a leader and team captain
    -Fargas was selected by his teammates as team MVP (shared one year with Aso) by winning Commitment to Excellence award in consecutive years.
    -Led the Cable Bumaye chant. The whole team, not surprisingly, followed suit.
    ************************************

    No no no my little lost subject talk about Farglass in the red zone. It will please the GURU

  • LA to TheBay

    I believe McFadden fumbled in one of his red zone attempts, and coughed the ball up in a critical time in the game vs. Denver.

  • mcfaddenswaggon

    He’s not going to get the nod this week either if bush is healthy….Bush is the better back plain and simple…If you can’t see that then you have a really bad eye for talent. Bigger, Stronger, Faster, with better vision.

  • LA to TheBay

    “No no no my little lost subject talk about Farglass in the red zone. It will please the GURU”

    Why?

    I’m talking about overall play and more importantly, leadership.

    New Post, BTW.

  • Brien the Grand Guru

    # LA to TheBay Says:
    October 23rd, 2009 at 1:02 pm

    I won’t argue that Fargas is not effective in the red zone, however the team in general is not particularly effective there either. My point was, compare the stats, since you place value in them.

    Even without the red zone TDs, would you argue that another Raider running back has had a better performance this year?

    The stats are all similar, almost identical. They’re all under 4 a carry and Fargas hasn’t fumbled. When he got the nod, the team won.
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    Effective? Hell Farglass is non existent there! Uh yes I can name better performances by Bush and Dmac in game, we just tried to force the issue with Russell too much when we could have killed them that first half by running it down their throats.

    Next!

  • mcfaddenswaggon

    Fargas is a good back up…

  • RaiderSam

    Brien the Grand Guru Says:
    Effective? Hell Farglass is non existent there! Uh yes I can name better performances by Bush and Dmac in game, we just tried to force the issue with Russell too much when we could have killed them that first half by running it down their throats.

    Next!
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    Fargas plays harder, therefore he is more likely to get banged up…how about Fargas, then Bush in the red zone?