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Final: Jets 38, Raiders 0

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Sunday, October 25th, 2009 at 4:11 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Scoring

NYJ_Shonn Greene 33-yard run (Jay Feely kicks PAT).

Notes:

Have to bail on blog notes until later because of added print responsibilities today . . .

Worst home loss ever. Previous worst margin was 41-7 (34 points), most recently in Brett Favre game on Dec. 22, 2003

Go ahead and vent.

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261 Responses to “Final: Jets 38, Raiders 0”

  1. Roch R Says:

    What do you even say?? Where do you even begin? What can be done to even salvage next year?

    Wow…is this rock bottom?

  2. No More Infield or Trolls Says:

    That offense is downright offensive…

  3. alisgod Says:

    congrats to the haters. You have your turn this week. I’m out.

  4. Kush Says:

    Was that Bill Callahan? What a way to rub our noses in it.

  5. Richochet Says:

    Darth Raider Says:
    October 25th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
    Any chance Al will go bankrupt if we boycott the rest of the season?
    ===========
    No..there are almost no walk up sales.
    All butts in seats are season ticket holders, who’ve already paid.

    But damn..was that stadium EMPTY, OR WHAT??

    After a win last week? Even LESS FANS SHOW UP? Looked like there were less than 28,000 in seats.

    Sorry team.
    Sorry organization.
    Sorry owner.
    Sorry fans.
    Sorry city.

    Ouch ;)

  6. jhill Says:

    Ok …

    Now that we got that out of the way!

    JRuss sucks, but Gradkowski is without question worse.

    But that’s not the point.

    ANYONE who still says that this team offense is a QB away needs to be banned from this site!

    ANYONE suggesting that quitting for any reason is ok is NOT a Raider fan!

  7. Richochet Says:

    alisgod Says:
    October 25th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
    congrats to the haters. You have your turn this week. I’m out.

    ===============
    OF COURSE YOU ARE, WORM.

    You were ball-less before the Eagle game. After the Raiders won, you couldn’t shut up. Now??? YOU DO EXACTLY AS I SAID YOU WOULD DO..YOU HIDE..because that’s exactly what frontrunning little cowards do..now…GET IN YOUR ROOM, BOY..where it’s safe.

    Close the door. Lock it. Hide under your bed.

    Good boy.

  8. RaidingTexas Says:

    Rock bottom? No way, man. This can still get worse. I promise you.

  9. WORKIN ON7 Says:

    six losing seasons – working on 7 is their any point in complaining?, or watching?, or supporting this team?

  10. SLAB Says:

    I’ll pass.

  11. snnyjcbs Says:

    Did you see Higgins with a big smile and laughing after the game? Thats what I am talking about PUNKS THIS TEAM IF FULL OF NOTHING BUT PUNKS.

    After a man bends you over and has you grab your ankles you stand up and smile and laugh, PUNKS WIT 0 PRIDE.

    The new Oakland Raiders motto,

    COME PUNK US WE LOVE IT.

  12. SLAB Says:

    What a disgrace!

  13. jupe Says:

    worst home shutout loss in Raider history

  14. radraider Says:

    we arnt the dumbest team in football but we do have the dumbest GM

  15. ottocrat Says:

    Commitment to Curing Insomnia.

  16. Thec07 Says:

    This is the product the “ORGANIZATION” has assembled.
    Spin masterd on this blog will be in full motion…

    After 7 losing seasons Mr Davis, you need it up and retire from all the 11 postions you hold in the Raiders org…….

  17. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    …BILL CALLAHAN! Forgot he was with the Jets! Congratulations, Bill. And yes, as you found out today, they’re STILL the dumbest team in America. Randy Hanson, congrats to you, too. I know you’re sipping a Martini right about now.

  18. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    If Al keeps starting Russell just to prove KIffin wrong then he deserves this game.

    Russell totally sucks as an NFL QB.

    His first play was a fumble which led to a Jets TD.
    His second drive ended with an interception which led to a Jets TD.
    His third drive led to an interception.

    This guy has NO pocket awareness whatsoever.

    Who knows how we’d play with a decent QB.

    Russell just sucks the life out of the team.

  19. ottocrat Says:

    I can’t wait to hear the stroked-out buffoon George Attkinison find a positive in today’s loss while admonishing the fans for not showing up for this putrid crap. It’s always fun to hear him slaughter the English language as well.

  20. Raider-405 Says:

    Guess Sapp was right by his comments.

    Wonder what Cable has to say in response….

    Sad…..

  21. Roch R Says:

    So if you had to give any game balls to Raiders players, who would you give them to and for what??

    Huff, for being the last line of defense too many times today.

    Lechler, because someone has to go to the Pro bowl from the Raiders

    Who else????

  22. big pep Says:

    THIS WHOLE TEAM SUCS,FUC CABLE, MURPHY AND EVERYONE ELSE EVEN GRAD WHATEVER HIS NAME IS, FUC ESPECIALLY CABLE, MURPHY, DHB, MCFADDEN, BUSH, CAUSE THEY ALL SUC DEF SUCS EVERYONE ON\ THIS TEAM SUCS FROM TOP BOTTOM BIG AL THAT STUPID BICH AMY, AND EVERYONE RUNNING THIS TEAM. FUC ALL OF U. IM DONE BLOW THIS FUCEN PLACE UP. I MEAN LAND A FUCEN BOMB ON THIS PLACE.

  23. Darth Raider Says:

    Any chance someone can call that tv show, “Intervention” and have them do a show on Al Davis. I dont think he realizes how much of a cancer he is to this team.

  24. Thec07 Says:

    Roch R Says:
    October 25th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
    So if you had to give any game balls to Raiders players, who would you give them to and for what??

    Huff, for being the last line of defense too many times today.

    Lechler, because someone has to go to the Pro bowl from the Raiders

    Who else????

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Mr. Davis gets one from the jets…

  25. Raider Fan in NYC Says:

    Sadly this can and likely will get worse. No gradkowski is not better than russell but russell is awful and yes he is a cancer that eats away at this team. I still firmly believe that with jeff garcia healthy from week 1 we’d be at WORST 4-3. The team gives up bc russell is so bad he will negate anything done by anyone.

  26. ottocrat Says:

    Bet against the Jets next week! It’s a lock!

  27. darkhorse Says:

    shud have at least gotten the field goal instead of going for it,…at least scored

  28. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Did the guy with the screen name “AlisGod” leave? Good. Good. He should be with his parents. Can you believe that? He was in here leaving comments and everything, with the name AlisGod!!! Poor guy. They don’t know, that’s the thing. They’re supposed to have sort of guardians who stay with them, kind of guide them.

  29. Darth Raider Says:

    Wow Pep. Smoke a bowl or something. You need to chilax homie. Its not that serious. Unless you bet big money on this game (if you did than you are an idiot!) its not that serious.

  30. mtsellers84 Says:

    tom cables, not the problem, the scheme isn’t the problem, its al davis and “his players”, he keeps playing WR who can’t catch the ball, LB who can’t tackle, QB who doesn’t have brains, DT who can’t stop the run, so on and so on, it seems elementary to me to continue to do something just because thats my phiolsphy or my way of doing things, its not working CHANGE YOUR WAY OF THINKING!!!!!, AL DAVIS, is it that hard to see, its obvious to a thousands of other people

  31. Noshadowking Says:

    Wow. I am actually ashamed for once in my life today to be a Raider fan. That was horrible. Started watching the game at halftime lol already down 24 nothing. The drive with the missed fg by the Jets they had like 9 rushes for 70yds and no pass attempts. Thats pathetic. Guess its time to look forward to the draft once again for year 7 now :(

  32. Stickum Says:

    Commitment to Excrement

  33. RaidingTexas Says:

    Move them to London already!

  34. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Randy Hanson is sipping one dry Martini right now. Here’s to you, Al Davis, Tom Cable. Oh yeh, we “see” the positives. LOL.

  35. Plunketthead Says:

    I missed hearing the latest from the sap. What did he say between mouthfulls of marbles?

  36. snnyjcbs Says:

    Disgrace, Garbage, Soft, Punks, none of these words are strong enough to describe what this team is and has been for going on a DECADE NOW.

    There are no words in the English language that can do justice to just how bad these guys are.

    My son is in the back yard burning all his Raider gear, all he knows about being a Raider fan is being humiliated and the kid has a tear in his eye as he is burning the gear.

    And the Raider players on the field are laughing, where did the scouts find these guys.

  37. big pep Says:

    MAN DARTH RAIDER I LOVE THIS TEAM BUT I HATE THEM SO MUCH.

  38. snnyjcbs Says:

    One last point and I am going to sit down AND WATCH SOME REAL FOOTBALL.

    As bad as the players are the Raiders have been being out coached for many of the games this year.

    Bring Gruden home, he was a REAL RAIDER AND STILL IS A RAIDER AT HEART. You are 80 years old Mr. Davis and thanks for all you have done but you need someone young to come in and STAY WITH THE RAIDERS AND BRING SOME STABILITY BACK.

    You gave away our Super Bowl when you let Gruden walk and it has been a cluster #### ever since. You love the Raiders as much as you say and you want to win bring back GRUDEN AND BRING HIM HOME NOW.

    Because if you do not make a move and let this just go on year after year the 20 people in the stands are going to walk soon and you will be playing in an empty ball park.

  39. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    I’m sure Pierce over in NY might be having a chuckle right about now while stretching in pre game warmups, too.

  40. Thec07 Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    October 25th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
    Ha ha ha…Thec. The Jets gave Al Davis a game ball… F’n half court shot. Beautiful

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Dont agree with everything you say MR but you nail it when you talk about Mr. Davis. This team wont win until he retires no if ands or buts. This is the worst org in the world…. even worse than street gangs

  41. Mistabrown Says:

    LMAO

    We are not haters we just dont stick our head in the sand like you and a few others. Deal in reality and you wont have to stick your tail between your legs and hide from a blog….haha

    # alisgod Says:
    October 25th, 2009 at 4:07 pm

    congrats to the haters. You have your turn this week. I’m out.

  42. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Snnyjcbs, the scouts? You are an idiot. Al Davis put this finely tuned product together, you moron. Stop trying to deflect blame.

  43. Thec07 Says:

    street gangs arent ran this bad….

  44. Thec07 Says:

    Anyone try and spin this is to a postive needs to see a shrink……

  45. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Ha ha ha…Thec. The Jets gave Al Davis a game ball… F’n half court shot. Beautiful.

  46. Stickum Says:

    DHB 4 grabs in 7 games.

    Crabtree 5 catches in 60 minutes.

  47. Darth Raider Says:

    I hear yah Pep. We just need to ride the wave and wait out uncle Al’s heart failure. We will rise again. Anything negative about this team stems from Al. He runs this team like a lemonade stand instead of a corporation. You cant win in this league with that mentality.

  48. RaidingTexas Says:

    If St. Louis could’ve added a FG today, the Raiders would be the lowest scoring team in the league through 7 games.

  49. big pep Says:

    I APPRECIATE IT DARTH RAIDER, I LIVE 10 MINUTES FROM TENN TITANS STADIUM AND THEY REALY SUC, HAD AN ARGUEMENT WITH THIS IDOIT FROM TENN AT THE HALL OF FAME GAME, WHO TOLD ME SUPER BOWLS DIDNT MATTER, AS LONG AS U MADE IT TO THE PLAY OFFS, THATS B 4 THEY STARTED 0-6, I WANT A SUPER BOWL. B 4 I DIE AND IM ONLY 37

  50. ottocrat Says:

    Anybody who thinks that Gruden’s coming back is an idiot.

  51. 504 Raider Says:

    Didn’t see the game. Got the whole family over and they got the Saints on the Bigscreen. I tivo’d and will watch after this Saints shootout.

    Surprised to see Cable had balls to pull Russell. Been reading comments and most accurate to me is Cable gotta go. This guy had the DA drop charges and he still can’t come up with a game plan.

    A past poster said it best in regards to Cable’s interview for the job:

    Al Davis: Tim, Are you familiar with the protection schemes on the corner blitz?

    Cable: No, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night.

    Al Davis: You’re hired!

  52. RaidingTexas Says:

    San Diego gave us a preview today of what we can expect next week.

  53. Thec07 Says:

    Cable will be the coach next season… Who would want to coach here with a meddling owner who has 11 jobs in his franchise…..

  54. Stickum Says:

    #51

    Paul Hackett

  55. Thec07 Says:

    Cut the front office all the way down to the janitor…

  56. ottocrat Says:

    Raiders coach 2010: Heywood Jablowme.

  57. ottocrat Says:

    DC in 2010: Dick Goezinya

  58. Mistabrown Says:

    Priest, you and your left tit Oakglen can hide for 3 days after a game like this or take it like a man….lmao

  59. snnyjcbs Says:

    Grudens best friend gave an interview on radio and he said that he has talked with Gruden and knows him well about the Raiders. And he stated that yes Gruden would consider coming back to the Raiders, and bring Brusce Allen with ya.

  60. Thec07 Says:

    Got my laughs for the day…..

    Worst ORGANZATION in the world, the oakland raiders…

  61. RaidingTexas Says:

    From the AP recap: “Sanchez was 9 for 15 for 143 yards with no interceptions and was so relaxed he was eating a hot dog on the sideline”

  62. radraider Says:

    weve reached rock bottom and started digging

  63. Mistabrown Says:

    Jhill, you are stuck on stupid too! Its Cables fault we fumbled on the first play “because we should have ran the ball”? That is absurd as hell! You execute the play thats called no matter where you are on the field. JaDumbell has the pocket awareness of Stevie Wonder!!!!

    Get a FKN clue Jhill he is not a NFL Qb, he is a fat lazy goof…..period

  64. ottocrat Says:

    Snnyjcbs Says:
    October 25th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
    Grudens best friend gave an interview on radio and he said that he has talked with Gruden and knows him well about the Raiders. And he stated that yes Gruden would consider coming back to the Raiders, and bring Brusce Allen with ya.

    ————————————————————–

    Chewbacca’s best friend called Gandalf and said that Pappa Smurf is going to captain a boat made of marshmallow down the whiskey river, all the way to the Playboy Mansion.

    PS.

    The ‘best friend’ you’re referring to is Tim Ryan, who washed Gruden’s car once back in the 90’s

  65. RaidingTexas Says:

    Radraider, they’ll reach China at this rate.

  66. Stickum Says:

    Eli Manning can play a quarter and a half, and Sanchez can wolf down HotDogs.

    Bet the New Yorkers wish they could play us everyweek.

    Outscored 82-7

  67. Mistabrown Says:

    **************Oakglen predicts*******************

    # Oakglenn Says:
    October 23rd, 2009 at 9:55 pm

    Every game to me at least is a winnable game. SD, KC, Cinn, Wash, in Dallas, in Cleveland, Baltimore are all winnable games. The only really tough games to me right now, are in Pitt and in Denver. Now, things change during the course of the year, with teams playing well, injuries, guys emerging. But you want an answer: We run the table or at least win 8-9 of our last 10. How’s that for a prediction??

  68. RaidingTexas Says:

    Well, gotta say the Jets showed the Giants how it’s really done.

  69. big pep Says:

    DAMN THIS TEAM SUXS, SUM 1 HELP ME I FEEL LIKE FUCEN SOM BODY UP, I HATE AND LOVE THIS TEAM, I THINK ILL GO HUNTING TOMOROW BUT IM SCARED NOTHING WILL COME MY WAY AND ILL SHOOT MY SELF OUT OF FRUSTRATION

  70. Stickum Says:

    Cable said JaJabba starts next week, and Barnes played well.

    I want some of what he smokes.

  71. RaidingTexas Says:

    Trade for a QB? So we can get another malcontent who doesn’t want to be here? There’s no way to fix this until Al is out of the way. You’re dreaming if you think offseason movements are going to get this team back on track.

  72. Mistabrown Says:

    Hey Oakglen, nice trajectory!

    You’ve established yourself as the biggest joke in blogging history. Can you stop the name calling now? Start acting your age and just realize you have no clue about professional football.

    Thanks in advance.
    ========================================

    Oakglenn Says:
    October 23rd, 2009 at 8:30 pm
    As I posted earlier, Cable is 5-7 in his last 12 and 4-4 in his last 8. Coming from a team with a .250 over the last 5+ years, that is a good trajectory. He is doing a much better job than anyone since Gruden. Might be time to get behind what this guy is preaching.

  73. Bobby Bushay Says:

    This just in – the Raiders will have a scrimmage during their bye week vs. the Napa Redwood Hills Middle Schools. “We need to boost the condidence of our young players,” said John Herera in a statement after today’s Jet’s game. “Need to get Heyward-Bey, JaMarcus, and McFadden on track. Oh, and also, we have our eye on a young CB that is tearing it up on special teams and covering the slot receivers. He should be eligible in the 2021 NFL Draft according to Mr. Davis. He runs a 4.3 forty time barefooted.”

    Just Scrimmage Baby!

    I was in NY, and YES, the Raiders played like it was a scrimmage. The truth hurts, but whatever it takes to get this team lacking in needed intangibles, we can only hope that the other NY team gives the Raiders bulletin board material.

  74. Mistabrown Says:

    I rather they let Russell play so when its all said and done the JaMeatball ballsuckers cant say he didn’t get a fair shake. Let him play!

    Draft a Qb in the first or second round and let him push JaDumbell next year.

    Bring in the new coaching staff. I have a feeling AL will hire a GM this off-season.

    Kiffin knew JaMeatloaf wasn’t worth a shiat!!! And he isnt!

  75. UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER Says:

    ++++++++++++++ PUKE ++++++++++++++++

    BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

  76. Mistabrown Says:

    Oakglen,
    I dont expect you to show your face until Tuesday but just in case you do I’ll be back later tonight to ask you about “trajectory” and “bonafide” Qb. I need input from an expert like yourself!

    lmao

  77. Darth Raider Says:

    Bench Russell and have Gradkowstki and Frye compete for the starting job. Resign Russell to a 5 year -$2 million contract in order to get some of that money back. Next year draft only offensive linemen. We dont need a QB in the draft. We need to trade for one.

  78. Mistabrown Says:

    Nobody even told JaHambone he was going to sit so he started off to the field when Gradkowski was in….lmao

    Classic!

  79. cablelayer Says:

    Jamarcus probably still thinks he played well today.

  80. Stickum Says:

    Doesnt matter what linemen we draft, they will all be busts, cos no Head/Position coach with any talent will ever coach for Al Davis.

    HE is the problem, nothing else.

    Its a vicious circle, nobody wants to coach for him, therefore we cannot develop the raw trackguys he drafts.

    But nobody will coach for him, cos he has final say in drafting said trackstars.

  81. big pep Says:

    J LEE SUXS, HES FROM WEST COLUMBIA TEXAS AND IF U EVER SEEN THAT SHIITTTTT HOLE U WOULD KNOW WHY HE DOESNT CARE, ATLEAST HE MADE IT OUT.

  82. jabust Says:

    http://vote4jamarcus.com/

  83. DT42 Says:

    Bring back Gruden as GM/HC, Marc Trestman OC. Do what Dallas did in the 90’s. Turnover the ENTIRE roster. No one here is part of the solution. Get rid of Front office, players, scouts, janitors, event staff. Full organizational lobotomy.

  84. TILIDIE Says:

    i’m from va. man it hurts to see the raiders lose like this. but for real i’ve been a raider fan since i knew what a football was. no matter what. i wish i could be one of those season ticket holders. regardless i’m not ever gonna stop believing and i’m nevet gonna stop supporting the oakland raiders. and i ain’t gonna be moved on this. if you want to jump ship, then jump. i’m gonna keep putting on my jerseys and i’m gonna keep watching, and i’m gonna believing, til i die.

  85. Mistabrown Says:

    AL Davis benched Russell not Cable.

    -Jarod Cooper

  86. ENGLANDRAIDER Says:

    YES!

    http://www.vote4jamarcus.com/

  87. jhill Says:

    Mista,

    You are obviously excited, lol!

    Listen dude, I called for Russell to be benched in game 2. Fact of the matter is you want Russell to keep playing some you can keep up your junior high school jokes acts. You are not funny AND you know nothing about the game!

    Gradkowski played 2 and 1/2 quarters of football, genrated nothing, should have had 3 picks for scores, but you guys like his effort and emotion? LMFAO! How about completing a fugging pass? Anyone! JRuss, Grad, Frye, next year’s pick, WHOEVER!

    This TEAM sucks. You obsession with the big black QB is laughable!

    ANYONE who tells me that 1st and 10, from our own 10 yd line, with the worst QB in the league, and the worst WRs in the league, and the worst Oline – WE SHOULD CALL A PASS PLAY ????? ARE YOU FUGGING KIDDING ME?

    You don’t know anything about the game dude! Your arguments are nothing more than a sad guy trying to get a laugh.

  88. Raider25 Says:

    un fucing believable. What do you do first??????

  89. Raider25 Says:

    Fuc Russell

  90. Trolls 35 Raiders 0 Says:

    J. Russell 6 11 61 54.5 5.5 1 6 0 2 31.1

    :-(

  91. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    All I ever asked for was effort. Can’t get that consistently.

    Russell is a bust. Admit it and I was WRONG about him. But truth be told… the Raiders don’t hire the qualified coaching/scheme to develop a young QB. Therefore, I would like to see the Raiders go back to the retread route. I would bring in Rex Grossman and JP Losman next year.

    Cable is a rank idiot. His playcalling is a disgrace and is not professional. Backed up at the 10 yd line and we are throwing deep. Bring in the back up QB and his first pass is deep….Try to hit DHB deep on a 9-route.

    Cable is not qualified to be a head coach let alone an OC.

    The team is bad so as a Raider fan you have a choice.

    Either ride with them with the sad understanding that they will never win until Al Davis relinquishes control…or

    Jump ship…

    I’ve been here too long so I’ll just ride with them. I used to the losing anyway. By the way….MaddenRaider is spot on with his overall assessment.

    I have fantasy football to keep me interested anyway. That Saints game was something else

  92. jhill Says:

    The Jets had 4 first round picks on the Oline!

    They just lined it up, and punched us in the mouth. 300 yds rushing?

    Cable never gave us a chance to punch them back. Back? Hell, we had the ball first and could have laid a bunch of body blows. But NOOOOOO! Cable comes out THROWING !!!!!

    Obviously Cable had a gameplan based upon Chaz coming back and Russell completing a bunch of passes to the FB and TE last week. LMFAO!

    Why did Cable have a passing gameplan instead of a running game plan?

    3 of the first 4 plays from scrimmage were pass plays!

  93. ohioraider Says:

    Hey, Alisgod, Priest, and other Davis sycophants, repeat after me…ready, now? OK:

    The Greatness of the Raiduhs is in the Futah.

    Got that? Let’s do it again:

    The Greatness of the Raiduhs is in the Futah.

    If you numnuts every accuse us realists of being haters again I hope you get testicular cancer. F u.

  94. jupe Says:

    You can mark it down, Seymour said on a Cincinnati radio show, “the Raiders will be in the playoffs. The Raiders are going to the playoffs.”

  95. Raider25 Says:

    Russell should be done, but who will replace him???? No one. Shame on the Raiders. No 2nd QB????? Come on cut your loses and keep Russell on the bench

  96. Raider25 Says:

    Jupe, WTF????? put the koolaid down…DH

  97. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Hey Mistabrown…

    I should have followed my own advice and step away after the Houston game.

    But I was a glutton for punishment.

  98. ohioraider Says:

    SNB, you speak the truth my friend. But Davis is done in less than 6 or 7 years tops.

    WHERE’S THE COMMISSIONER?

  99. Raider25 Says:

    Snb, How do you say the defense is garbage? If you’re on the field as long as they are what can you do. They do need to bring in someone but who? and you can’t bring anyone in this year, can you? I may be wrong but they should not of let Garcia go. I know people will yell at me for that but he could of won the game today.

  100. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    JHill,

    Tom Cable’s playcalling is awful. Just awful. He doesn’t even try to run the football. All his playcalling with Russell is down the field….LOL….then he does the same thing with Gradkowski.

    Davis is the cancer at the center of all this. The team is built wrong, the coaches are incompetent and the overall product is ghoulish.

    We may not win for 20 or 30 yrs….except for a brief respite due to Gruden…we haven’t really won in 20 already.

    Davis has really destroyed his former Hall of Fame reputation

  101. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Raider25 Says:
    October 25th, 2009 at 5:17 pm
    Russell should be done, but who will replace him???? No one. Shame on the Raiders. No 2nd QB????? Come on cut your loses and keep Russell on the bench
    =======================================================
    Yes, Russell has to go…no question.

    The Raiders need to go bring in Grossman, JP Losman and maybe Chad Pennington and try to see if they can rekindle the 80’s model of taking rejects…unfortunately, the scouting is much better today.

    The defense is garbage

  102. aloharaider Says:

    Stickum,

    Spot on! No decent NFL coach wants this job, no decent NCAA coach wants this job, so it doesn’t matter who the coach is. Until Al changes the way the organization is mismanaged nothing will change. Why blame the players, scheme, lack of heart, etc etc etc? There only one person who is responsible for the last 7 years of horrible football; the same one who will be responsible for the next 7 years….Al Davis (RIP)

  103. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    By the way…

    This whole team quit again.

    That goes back to the coaching.

    But unfortunately, Davis can’t bring in professional coaching

  104. ohioraider Says:

    To you well-meaning critics of JMR, the problem is, there’s no rational way to evaluate the personnel on this team as long as Davis insists on his outmoded systems. No way to do it! Only after you change the system and bring in a legitimate quality coach will we know JMR, or anybody’s true potential.

  105. Stickum Says:

    Jamarcus hasnt been helped by his own laziness or the scheme.

    But its not hard to see he doesnt have the instincts for the position, this is a guy that failed to see a blitzer coming right up the middle towards him in the meadowlands.

    Thats nothing to do with coaching or scheme, it just means he isnt a good quarterback.

  106. Stickum Says:

    Fix the damn blog Jerry, what is up with the timestamps being out of order all the time, I keep having to scroll up to see my own posts.

  107. vegas raider Says:

    Tom Cable and his desire to throw the ball…… Why does every 3rd and 4 have to be a pass? First play of the game, let’s drop Jamarcus back inside his 10 yard-line? A nice drive with some nice Fargas runs, 1st and 10 let’s challenge the best corner in the league with Todd Watkins, who thinks of this shyt?

    And where the hell was Jamarcus throwing it on the first pick? What happened to taking a sack and turning it over to “all world Shane Lechler?”

    Damn so frustrating.

  108. Darth Raider Says:

    Any chance Al Davis goes to sleep tonight and just doesnt wake up?!?! Im just sayin….

  109. Raider25 Says:

    ohioraider Says:
    October 25th, 2009 at 5:28 pm
    To you well-meaning critics of JMR, the problem is, there’s no rational way to evaluate the personnel on this team as long as Davis insists on his outmoded systems. No way to do it! Only after you change the system and bring in a legitimate quality coach will we know JMR, or anybody’s true potential
    —————————————————-
    Are you serious????? Are you defending Russell???? There is no FUCING way anyone can defend him….Period….He sucks and is a total BUST.

  110. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    ohioraider Says:
    October 25th, 2009 at 5:28 pm
    To you well-meaning critics of JMR, the problem is, there’s no rational way to evaluate the personnel on this team as long as Davis insists on his outmoded systems. No way to do it! Only after you change the system and bring in a legitimate quality coach will we know JMR, or anybody’s true potential.
    ==================================================
    I think our position is what JHill is trying to preach to these guys. Its really bigger than JaMarcus…who is a bust by the way…but it goes back to getting real professional coaching and letting said coach run his team.

    Davis is the worst owner in pro sports period. He drafts/signs these athletes that can’t play and then saddles the head coach with the players, schemes and assistants (read Hanson) and then expects success.

    The team is fundamentally broken and everyone in the universe knows why.

    That’s why the Raiders would really be better off going all veterans and hope to attract some leaders that can fill the vacumm from the puppet coach and incompetent owner

  111. Stickum Says:

    About to watch Warner and Eli throw for more yards in a game than JaJabba has in practice
    Goodnight Nation !!!

  112. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    I really think that Russell was mishandled. I really believe that. With that said…his performance at this stage in his career is unacceptable. So he needs to go back to Mobile, Alabama and hang with his folks.

    The root cause of this nonsense is Al Davis. Until he is willing to hire a REAL professional head coach and let that coach hire his staff, run his schemes and run his team including making the decision of who plays and who doesn’t….they will never win. I don’t care who you bring in to play QB, RB, C, WR, LT,RG,LG, RT, DT,DE,LB,S, K,P special teams…the whole thing.

    Oh by the way…who the hell is the is the wide receivers coach and the special teams coach? What the HELL are their credentials.

    What a joke!

  113. Richochet Says:

    jhill Says:
    October 25th, 2009 at 5:03 pm

    This TEAM sucks. You obsession with the big black QB is laughable!
    ====================================
    You scream “I’m a racist”.

    What the hell is it with you and the “black qb’??
    Nobody mentioned JR’s color..JUST YOU.

    The fact YOU keep running the “you don’t like him because he’s black” makes you racist to the bone.

  114. Raider25 Says:

    Ohioraider, where are you from? I’m from Ohio also

  115. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Stickum Says:
    October 25th, 2009 at 5:34 pm
    About to watch Warner and Eli throw for more yards in a game than JaJabba has in practice
    Goodnight Nation !!!
    =======================================================
    Screw football. Watching the baseball game. A much better sport by the way.

    At least in baseball, if you don’t put up the numbers you get cut…if your franchise doesn’t win,..there is no t.v money to bail you out!

  116. Mistabrown Says:

    “This is just perplexing”

    -George Atkinson

  117. Raider25 Says:

    you can’t blame the coach on this. If we had a qb that produced then the coach is a hero. His hands are tied.

  118. jhill Says:

    Richochet Says:
    October 25th, 2009 at 5:37 pm

    jhill Says:
    October 25th, 2009 at 5:03 pm

    This TEAM sucks. You obsession with the big black QB is laughable!
    ====================================
    You scream “I’m a racist”.

    —————————————————–

    LMFAO, you’re claiming to be MistaBrown now?

    Or are you that starved for my attention?

    And show me ONE post I’ve where I have EVER said anythingt to you or anyone else about him being black? I don’t give a fugg about that shyt!

    You are the same ole POS liar that you’ve always been. Making up BS and running with it.

    I wasn’t even fugging talking to you dude!

    If you didn’t bring up some race BS I would ignore your BS as usual.

  119. CuzImaRaider Says:

    Just gotta say Raiders suck and being a fan of the Raiders=shame!!!

    But there has been some damn funny posts here!!
    Thanks for helping to laugh…
    w/ everyone else @ Raiders!!

  120. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Raider25 Says:
    October 25th, 2009 at 5:43 pm
    you can’t blame the coach on this. If we had a qb that produced then the coach is a hero. His hands are tied.
    ======================================================
    He is a #%@!

    Cable can’t coach. His playcalling is awful. Yeah, Russell is a joke.

    But this coach decides to call plays like this team is the Patriots or the Colts.

    What a joke. Cable is a buffoon

  121. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    No rookie should get more than $500K a year. Atkinson is right! They should have to prove it on the field first.

    All rookies should get the minimum starting out.

    I don’t care if you are the #1 guy or the #224 guy.

    What a joke!

  122. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    I let my blind loyalty to the Raiders cloud my judgement.

    Oh well

  123. jhill Says:

    Raider25 Says:
    October 25th, 2009 at 5:43 pm

    you can’t blame the coach on this.

    —————————————————–

    Oh really ????

    Let’s see …

    We ALL know the QB, WRs, and Oline is a “work in progress” to be kind, lol!

    Now I don’t know who simpler it could be than if YOU were calling the plays with the QB, WRs, and Oline we have, would your first play from your own 10 yd line be a 7 step drop pass play?

    Would 3 of your first 4 plays called be pass or run?

    Knowing the type of defense the Jets play, would you call plays that had Jamarcus Russell turning his back on the defense, and then have him “trying to make a play” against that rush? LMFAO!

    I know your answers to those questions and your just a poster on this blog. Why the fugg doesn’t Cable know what to do?

  124. aloharaider Says:

    Ok. I know it’s hard to get shut out but Cable evidently finds it pretty easy once a season to do so. Last year it was against Atlanta, this year NY. I predict he can beat last year’s record by being shut out the next two weeks; therefore making it three in a row (yes, I know we have a bye after next week but point made nonetheless). We’re almost there right Tom? Tell me about our talent one more time….

  125. jhill Says:

    What’s the excuse for DHB dropping that TD pass from Gradkowski?

    I mean, does it really matter who is throwing the DROPS?

    Gradkowski should have EASILY had 3 picks returned for scores, lol! EASILY!

    We have NOTHING at QB and HC coach to speak of folks. Not just the QB position, but the HC, WRs, and everyone associated with those positions!

  126. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    How do you give up 300+ yds rushing? Damn!

    How do you have 4 turnovers in the 1st quarter? Damn!

    How does your:

    #1 QB bust
    #1 WR bust
    #1 RB bust
    #1 LT bust
    #1 S bust

    That’s organization fellas! Al Davis!

  127. Mistabrown Says:

    SnB, like you said you should have bailed out after Houston.

    Who said we are 1 player away? Paste the quote or GTFO of here you FKN nimrod!

  128. Mistabrown Says:

    Nnamdi heads need to roll so we can do this all over again with a new staff? Only 1 head needs to roll and then you can evaluate what you have.

    Take your head out of your anus.

  129. jhill Says:

    Jimbo Fisher is Florida State’s offensive coordinator and head-coach-in-waiting. He also recruited Russell at LSU and coached him there for his entire college career; Fisher has known Russell since the player was a freshman in high school.

    “All the things they say about him, I never saw those problems,” Fisher said Wednesday from his office in Tallahassee. “It baffles me to hear that stuff. We film-studied; he carried three or four plays to the line of scrimmage; he read defenses and checked down.

    “I’m a very demanding person, and would rip his tail when something happened. I’m not there, so I don’t know what they’re asking of him. But maybe they need to make him [study] more, work harder at it. I’d find time to do it. Make him give me reports, give it back to me.”

    Russell, according to scouts, usually puts in a typical 9-5 business day at the Raiders’ facility. Sometimes, they say, he leaves before 4 p.m.

    ——————————————————-

    I just laugh at ANYONE who says that coaching doesn’t matter. Then again, most of the same people bashing our players will say that no credible coach will come here.

    Think about that! You admit that we don’t have a credible coach and them blame the players when we show up unprepared and players end up going through the motions.

    LMFAO at non credible coaching being expected to develop or manage talent on an NFL level.

    Is there ANYONE here who thinks that we have an advantage coaching on any given week? ANYONE?!?!!?

  130. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    JHill,

    The folks on here have the same disease that Davis does. They think this team is just one playah away. Its not even close.

    What team would start two rookie receivers with a developmental QB?

    What team would knowingly go out there with the Offensive Line lineup that we had going in?

    What team would draft a receiver #7 overall with huge flaws in his game with the gaping holes in other key positions?

    JHill, these posters are just like Davis in a lot of ways…..

    If we just had the QB we would be in the Super Bowl!////LOL

  131. Richochet Says:

    jhill Says:
    October 25th, 2009 at 5:43 pm
    Richochet Says:
    October 25th, 2009 at 5:37 pm

    jhill Says:
    October 25th, 2009 at 5:03 pm

    This TEAM sucks. You obsession with the big black QB is laughable!
    ====================================
    You scream “I’m a racist”.

    —————————————————–

    LMFAO, you’re claiming to be MistaBrown now?

    Or are you that starved for my attention?

    And show me ONE post I’ve where I have EVER said anythingt to you or anyone else about him being black? I don’t give a fugg about that shyt!

    You are the same ole POS liar that you’ve always been. Making up BS and running with it.

    I wasn’t even fugging talking to you dude!

    If you didn’t bring up some race BS I would ignore your BS as usual.
    =============
    Wrong, tool. You stupidly took me on in the past, and got your ass handed to you. You then went into retreat mode.

    Slapping your inept ass around is kids play.

    Back to you being a racist scumbag.

    THE FOLLOWING IS YOUR COMMENT:

    jhill Says:
    October 25th, 2009 at 5:03 pm

    This TEAM sucks. You obsession with the big black QB is laughable!

    =============================
    YOU brought up the “big black qb”..what the hell is with the “show me where I brought up him being black”..YOU JUST DID.
    Are you stupid?

    Save that weak ‘wasn’t talking to you’..I don’t need an invitation to call out a racist for being a racist.

    And it’s NOT the first time you’ve made racist comments.

    Ok..explain why you even BROUGHT UP “BLACK QB’??

    You won’t, because your racist ass can’t.

  132. vegas raider Says:

    From the Candid Cam article:

    Russell accounted for three turnovers on four series in the first quarter. As for his personal accountability in his failure to develop as even an acceptable quarterback, he failed to place blame on himself alone.

    When I asked him at his locker what’s been the biggest obstacle in his development, he replied: “Up and down. Up and down.”

    As in the team’s consistency, or his?

    “I don’t think it’s me, personally. I really don’t,” Russell replied. “It’s been a bad combination of one guy not doing something right one time, one guy another time.

    “Personally, I don’t think so. Do you?”

    After a brief pause, I replied: “At times.”

    “For the first time, he was really out of sorts early in the game,” Cable said.

    “Actually, I wasn’t,” Russell countered.

    Cable claimed right out the gate that Russell failed to line up his teammates in the proper formation on the first play and check the ball down as required. The result: Russell got sacked and fumbled the ball, and the Jets quickly converted that turnover into the first of their five touchdowns

    *************************************

    No fire or passion from the team, and it starts at the QB position.

  133. Nnamdi21 Says:

    I loathe people who enjoy our losing so very very much. Why aer you so flippin happy we suck so bad? You’re glad your right? Congrats genius, that makes perfect sense.

    This team quits.

    Al thats on you.

    Your system allows players who slack and quit on us.

    Heads need to roll.

  134. BigandRich Says:

    Davis maybe the worst owner in pro sports but come on folks stop wishing death and bad health on the guy. I’m sure he is a father, husband, and that’s just wrong. Bad karma to wish death on anyone! He’s probably just senile, ornery and stubborn like my Grandfather. We have no choice but wait it out until he retires or someone is able to talk some good sense into him.

    BTW why was JaBusted wearing a beanie cap on one of the hottest days in Oct? Detox chills?

  135. Plunketthead Says:

    You mean like this?

    Raiders 27 dolts 17

    Breakout game!!

  136. Raider E Says:

    I really thought they would go to DHB before that 3rd and Goal, i thought they would try and give him some confidence seeing how the game was lost…. then he fcking doesn’t hold on to it , lands on his ass and starts waving his arms like he was interfered with, he had his shot and choked baby!!!!

  137. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    vegas raider Says:
    October 25th, 2009 at 6:02 pm

    No fire or passion from the team, and it starts at the QB position.
    =====================================================
    The Real MaddenRaider is right that he keeps the focus of most of his posts on Al Davis.

    Blaming the playahs is the easy way out. Sure Russell is a big, blazin bust! But so is the WR, RB, S, LT, DE, and plethora of DBs that they have drafted over the years.

    The puppet coaches that can’t set the tempo and design their own schemes.

    The same puppet coaches that don’t discipline their players!

    So saying bench the QB, fire the coach or whatever….takes the focus off the root cause of all this B.S….Its Al Davis!

  138. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Vegas Raider Candid cam article:

    “Cable claimed right out the gate that Russell failed to line up his teammates in the proper formation on the first play and check the ball down as required. The result: Russell got sacked and fumbled the ball, and the Jets quickly converted that turnover into the first of their five touchdowns”

    ==============================

    Cable’s wrong.

    Russell DID check down when he saw the D. wassn’t his fault Gary Russell’s been on the team for 2 weeks and is our starting FB a positon he’s never really played full time.

    Should’ve called a time out…I know…on the OPENING PLAY.

    Russell gave a damm today and its is NOT all his fault.

    I saw an entire TEAM quit out there today, not just one guy.

  139. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Nnamdi21,

    Good point. I don’t understand the folks taking glee in this disaster

  140. Mistabrown Says:

    You Davis & Russell sack lickers are getting what you deserve and ask for. The rest of us are realistic about whats going on.

    You choose to plant your head in your a$$es dont blame us for your lunacy. Go ahead and follow priest & oakglen down a road of idiocy.

  141. Richochet Says:

    Is there anyone in any broadcast booth who is more illiterate and backasswards than George Atkinson?

    Sounds like a total fool.

    George: “They have no i-deer how to taka. He can’t cova. It’s not Mr. Davis faut..it’s onna da plaer. He do a good job of sign guys, it’s onna plaer, not Mr. Davis”.

    Hey, everyone knows he’s Al’s flunky, who’s on the payroll just to keep propping the Geezer, but damn..guy comes across as a bafoon.

  142. CantonDog Says:

    Since Big Al has total control over this team and insists on making and overruling others’ decisions no matter how often he’s proved wrong…when does HE start to take responsibility for this crappy product? These are all HIS guys right? This is HIS team? Man up and take the blame that’s yours to burden…

  143. DarthPirate Says:

    Well today sucked. It doesn’t matter who our QB is if have no decent personnel around him.

    Put Russell back in next week. Gradkowski was terrible too.

  144. Richochet Says:

    CantonDog Says:
    October 25th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
    Since Big Al has total control over this team and insists on making and overruling others’ decisions no matter how often he’s proved wrong…when does HE start to take responsibility for this crappy product? These are all HIS guys right? This is HIS team? Man up and take the blame that’s yours to burden…
    =====================
    Ahh..but one must refer to “Raider’s Rule Book”.

    Rule #1. Al Davis get credit for everything that works.
    Rule #2. Coaches get blame for everything that doesn’t work.
    Rule #3. See Rule #1.

  145. vegas raider Says:

    SnB,

    No doubt Al is the biggest culprit in this mess, but that doesn’t mean everyone gets a free-pass due to Al’s ineptitude.

    A team can put up with a struggling QB, if he works hard, his teammates respect his work-ethic and know that he is doing everything to improve. Either Jamarcus isn’t doing this stuff, or he is and is just awful. I think it is a little-bit of both.

  146. CantonDog Says:

    And by the way…speaking of Al…it’s time they stopped showing him on TV and saying “There’s the great Al Davis”.

    He should now be referred to as the “Once Great Al Davis” or “Previously great” as in the “No longer great”. Look, I know the history. I know there are a lot of people that has respect for him…but face it. Al is no longer great–or even good. He used to be and I thank him for that. The game passes everyone by at some point. I believe that point was about 7 exits ago for Al.

  147. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    CantonDog Says:
    October 25th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
    Since Big Al has total control over this team and insists on making and overruling others’ decisions no matter how often he’s proved wrong…when does HE start to take responsibility for this crappy product? These are all HIS guys right? This is HIS team? Man up and take the blame that’s yours to burden…
    =======================================================
    Big AL gets bailed out because of the TV money

  148. Mistabrown Says:

    Because we told you so but you are too stupid to see whats right in front of you. I dont like to see a loss anymore than you do but I chose not to sugar coat the obvious or make excuses for a lazy uninspired meatball Qb.

    You Davis & Russell ball lickers want to talk your shiat all during the week and then after a day like to day you want me to take my foot off your neck? F U….eat poop!

    # SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
    October 25th, 2009 at 6:10 pm

    Nnamdi21,

    Good point. I don’t understand the folks taking glee in this disaster

  149. Raider E Says:

    3 turnovers in the first 10 minutes just ain’t gonna get it….. He will start at S.D…. Let’s see how he responds, should be interesting…..

  150. Nnamdi21 Says:

    SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
    October 25th, 2009 at 6:10 pm
    Nnamdi21,

    Good point. I don’t understand the folks taking glee in this disaster

    =================================

    Sickening…

    Just want the players to perform like they care as much as we do…

  151. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    vegas raider Says:
    October 25th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
    SnB,

    No doubt Al is the biggest culprit in this mess, but that doesn’t mean everyone gets a free-pass due to Al’s ineptitude.

    A team can put up with a struggling QB, if he works hard, his teammates respect his work-ethic and know that he is doing everything to improve. Either Jamarcus isn’t doing this stuff, or he is and is just awful. I think it is a little-bit of both.
    ======================================================
    Who drafted Russell? Who doesn’t allow his coaches to discipline Russell?

    Who forces the coaches to play these #$#!ed schemes?

    Who hires incompetent coaches?

    Blaming the players is like blaming the waitress in a restaurant for the bad food.

  152. Mistabrown Says:

    Imagine Tom Cable having to conduct a press conference and defend AL’s decisions without mentioning his name, just sit there and take it up the shoot, for AL!

    Thats why he says the same krap after every loss. He believes in this team., etc etc you dont say krap like that unless you are powerless in making change….period

  153. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Stick with Russell. Put in Schilens and Walker. Stat.

  154. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Khalif played right tackle today. Wasn’t horrible.

  155. jhill Says:

    Great Vegas,

    Just what we need, two idoits in the media battling it out as to who’s the bigger idiot, lol!

    Cable vs. Russell in the media?

    Cable and Russell are both wrong?

    Formation? Cmon Cable, you can do better than that, lol!

    Pace went UNTOUCHED around Barnes! Check down? I think the issue was ball security and being unaware of a man coming free right at him.

    I bet that was Cable’s answer to if he would give up playcalling based on that first play he called leading to a turnover, lol!

    Formation? What, did you call a running play and the QB blew it?

  156. Nnamdi21 Says:

    No sacks today? No pass rush and yes, there were blitzes. Asomugha even came on one. Got burned by them a couple times too.

  157. Raider E Says:

    SPECULATION IS RAMPANT, WOW!!!!

  158. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Mistabrown,

    Tom Cable is just collecting a check. He took the job because he knew this was his only shot at collecting that multi-million dollar check.

    This guy is a ZBS O-Line coach and that’s it!

    Yet he’s the head coach AND offensive coordinator.

    What a joke

  159. jhill Says:

    Nnamdi21 Says:
    October 25th, 2009 at 6:21 pm

    Khalif played right tackle today. Wasn’t horrible.

    ——————————————————-

    Sad that “wasn’t horrible” was actually an upgrade at RT, lol!

  160. vegas raider Says:

    SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
    October 25th, 2009 at 6:18 pm

    Blaming the players is like blaming the waitress in a restaurant for the bad food.

    ***********************************

    Let’s take this analogy a little furthur.

    Jamarcus isn’t doing his best, apologizing for the bad food, asking how he can fix-it and busting his tail to at least keep your glasses full of your drink.

    He is being rude, passing the blame on, and sitting in the corner on his cell-phone instead of filling up the drinks.

  161. Kirk Says:

    I thought Gradkowski played well. He hit DHB right in the hands with a touchdown pass. I hope he starts next week. Jamarcus Russell will never be a pro quarterback. Gradkowski at least has the guts to tuck the ball in and run for first downs. He reminds me a little bit of Gannon.

  162. Nnamdi21 Says:

    SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
    October 25th, 2009 at 6:18 pm

    “Blaming the players is like blaming the waitress in a restaurant for the bad food.”

    ==============================

    If the bish is dropping the **** on the way to the table then YEAH!

    Jayzuz, CATCH THE DAMB BALL!

  163. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    What happens if the Raiders run the ball on 1st and 10 from the 10 yd line?

  164. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Kirk, please, just please…

  165. jhill Says:

    Nnamdi21 Says:
    October 25th, 2009 at 6:21 pm

    No sacks today?

    —————————————————–

    I think Sanchez threw the ball 14 times today, and most of that was after it was already over. Not too many chances for sacks when the team is tearing off 300yds on the ground!

  166. Mistabrown Says:

    George Atkinson is perplexed at what he saw…..AS IF GEORGE DOESN’T KNOW AL IS BEHIND THE SCENES HAND CUFFING HIS COACHES AND STICKING HIS NOSE IN THE GAME PLAN ETC ETC.

    George Atkinson has the same disease that priest, oakglen, and some of you other derelicts have!

    THERE IS NOTHING PERPLEXING ABOUT THIS! THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN AN OWNER WONT FALL BACK AND LET THE COACHES COACH……PERIOD

  167. Kirk Says:

    Michael Crabtree had 5 catches for 56 yards today. With no preseason. All I had to do to know Crabtree was better than DHB was look at 10 minutes of film of the two of them. Davis is an idiot.

  168. Mistabrown Says:

    2ND & 9, AND THEN 3RD & 6 AND THEN JADUMBELL COUGHS UP THE BALL OR THROWS A PICK, MOST LIKELY!

    Mute point!

    # SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
    October 25th, 2009 at 6:25 pm

    What happens if the Raiders run the ball on 1st and 10 from the 10 yd line?

  169. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Kirk Says:
    October 25th, 2009 at 6:24 pm
    I thought Gradkowski played well. He hit DHB right in the hands with a touchdown pass. I hope he starts next week. Jamarcus Russell will never be a pro quarterback. Gradkowski at least has the guts to tuck the ball in and run for first downs. He reminds me a little bit of Gannon.
    ======================================================
    That historical comparison garbage is what has us in this hole now. Davis trying to recreate the 70s

    ANd now you trying to laud a backup QB.

    We have no quarterbacks…none.

    We better bring in Rex Grossman and JP Losman next year.

    No more rookies or young QBs.

    We don’t have the coaching staff or organization to get that done.

    Get a veteran

  170. priesttj Says:

    Cable’s playcalling borders on pshycotic Fargas was running wild WHY DID YOU PASS? SUICIDE!!

  171. vegas raider Says:

    SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
    October 25th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
    What happens if the Raiders run the ball on 1st and 10 from the 10 yd line?

    *****************************************

    I doubt it would have been any worse than first and 10 Jets from the 5 yard line.

  172. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Mistabrown Says:
    October 25th, 2009 at 6:28 pm
    2ND & 9, AND THEN 3RD & 6 AND THEN JADUMBELL COUGHS UP THE BALL OR THROWS A PICK, MOST LIKELY!
    =======================================================
    Good…then we can punt the ball and live for another day!

    Dumbazz coaching.

    Everyone in the universe knows the Raiders have no QB.

    So the coach highlights the talentless guy

  173. vegas raider Says:

    Can we draft the QB from Georgia Tech and just run the triple option all-game? Someone try to convince me that it would be worse than what we currently have going on offense.

  174. Kirk Says:

    Let’s see how Russell responds??? He leads the NFL in fumbles! He is not going to make it in the NFL. He will take his $32 million and go home.

  175. EYoung Says:

    The underlying problem is Al Davis. Year after year I read about next year, the next coach, the next player, but rarely do I read about the real problem that haunts the team every year. That is Al Davis. Until he goes, nothing will change – ever. So Oakland fans, hush up until the toxin is gone…

  176. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Vegas Raider,

    The idiot drafts players based on physical attributes and not on football IQ.

    The Owner hires coaches that are pliant.

    So you think swapping out the playahs is going to change anything.

    The one coach who did things correctly got TRADED!

    I am with MaddenRaider on this one.

    Any blame that is not 100% focused on Al Davis is misdirected.

    Al Davis is totally responsible for all this.

  177. jhill Says:

    The Jets had FOUR FIRST ROUND PICKS on their Oline on the way to over 300 yds rushing.

    They didn’t ask their QB to do ANYTHING but HAND THE BALL OFF!

    Why is that so hard for some of you to understand? Sanchez didn’t do squat but run a QB draw, lol! He had ZERO plays in the game. His lone TD has a HELLUVA play on an UNDERTHROWN ball by a 5th string WR, lol!

    Great job of shaking yourself Ryan and realizing that you didn’t have Broadway Joe and you just needed to run the fugging ball.

    And SnB, a 3 and out with a helluva punt by Lechler to see if we could rattle the young QB SHOULD have been the move.

    But NO, Cable was impressed with the progress Russell has been making the past 3 weeks. He told you at last weeks PC that it was coming. You could see him gloating b/c Russell finally had a decent game. Couple that with Cable expecting Chaz back and the playbook we saw last week was back in th closet.

  178. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Mistabrown Says:
    October 25th, 2009 at 6:37 pm
    Maybe Cable is doing this to thumb his nose at Davis? What if Cable wanted to bench Russell in the pre-season for being over weight and Davis told him no?
    =====================================================
    Cable is collecting a check. I don’t hate on him for that. Gotta feed your family and he has the opportunity to secure his family’s future for ever.

    An O-Line coach probably makes 300 or 400K…he’s making about $2M or so as head coach. That’s 5yrs of pay to be a puppet.

    But his playcalling is terrible.

    Its clear that Al Davis is running the entire show including the starting lineup

  179. Kirk Says:

    SnB, you are right. Al Davis is the problem.

    McFadden instead of Clady. DHB instead of Crabtree. Even I knew these were the wrong decisions.

  180. Mistabrown Says:

    Maybe Cable is doing this to thumb his nose at Davis? What if Cable wanted to bench Russell in the pre-season for being over weight and Davis told him no?

    What if Cable wanted to keep Garcia and Davis told him no?

    What if you were Tom Cable and Davis forced Russell on you and Russell didnt watch film, showed up late for meetings, came in out of shape. if Im Cable maybe I throw that POS to the wolves..

    # SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
    October 25th, 2009 at 6:30 pm

    Good…then we can punt the ball and live for another day!

    Dumbazz coaching.

    Everyone in the universe knows the Raiders have no QB.

    So the coach highlights the talentless guy

  181. Mistabrown Says:

    Priest……SHUT YOUR PIEHOLE!

  182. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    vegas raider Says:
    October 25th, 2009 at 6:30 pm
    Can we draft the QB from Georgia Tech and just run the triple option all-game? Someone try to convince me that it would be worse than what we currently have going on offense.
    ============================================
    No. No more rookies or young players. The coaching quality and turnover is such that no young QB would succeed.

    They need to bring in a fiery veteran that could play for about 5 or 6 yrs. Someone that is around 30 yrs old that can provide the leadership that our stuffed shirt coaches won’t provide.

    A vet QB that can manage the game.

    We will never have a gunslinger QB here…and probably never should given our reckless playcalling

  183. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    priesttj Says:
    October 25th, 2009 at 6:29 pm
    Cable’s playcalling borders on pshycotic Fargas was running wild WHY DID YOU PASS? SUICIDE!!
    =======================================================
    Agreed!

    Cable is in over his head for sure. Didn’t even give the running game a chance. Especially given that the QB and WRs are way behind schedule

  184. priesttj Says:

    DB’s know that if they are physical with our WR’s that they will not compete. Russell’s confidence in his WR’s is a 2 on a 1 to 10 scale. That along with his struggles doesn’t bode well for an aggressive passing game which Cable seems to think he can just do whatever and come out good.

    Cable needs to give the playcalling responsibilities to Hackett who will protect Russell from himself.

  185. Mistabrown Says:

    SnB if you’re going to feed the animals dont get mad when poop gets thrown on you.

  186. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Vegas,

    Sure, the players could have more pride. But Davis is the one that collects players that have low football IQs or are just plain lazy azz $%@#%$%

    Seems the Raiders have more than their fair share of b*&&& on the team

  187. vegas raider Says:

    Al is to blame for the “Macro” state of the team, but the players could at least deliver a better product to the fans.

    Think, even if Jamarcus takes all those sacks today, but doesn’t fumble, or throw the awful pick. We still have a team that is full of athletes and not tough lines, so we would have still given up way too much on Run D, been unable to protect the QB, and our coach would still be below NFL level talent. We could still have all those problems, and maybe lost 17-6 today, still be 2-5 but would have been slightly entertained as the consumer.

    Instead it was 38-0, thanks to Cable and Jamarcus not Al Davis, the game was over literally after one ill-advised play. Pathetic.

  188. vegas raider Says:

    Another year, and another one where Fargas is our best option at RB. Bush runs like he is 34 years old, and Darren runs like he is 17.

  189. Mistabrown Says:

    Priest is on the radio as I type repeating his post # 184 and sounding like a deranged fool, the host pretty much cut him off mid-sentence…..lmao

  190. flowbees Says:

    NFL RECORD 7th CONSECUTIVE DOUBLE-DIGIT LOSS SEASON AND COUNTING. wow. i am longing for a raiders team that can even be on par with the marc wilson or jay schroeder raiders. so sad.

  191. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    vegas raider Says:
    October 25th, 2009 at 7:01 pm
    Another year, and another one where Fargas is our best option at RB. Bush runs like he is 34 years old, and Darren runs like he is 17.
    ====================================================
    Again, who drafted these guys?

    Bush is a 4th round pick so no big deal

    DMAC should have never been drafted. But you know who got enchanted with his yards that he racked up against Troy State and Louisiana Monroe.

    Draft football players!

  192. Mistabrown Says:

    Great call Priest! They couldn’t get you off the line fast enough…..ll

    You dont sound at all like a deranged lunatic but feel free to call out AL anytime this century!

  193. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    flowbees Says:
    October 25th, 2009 at 7:02 pm
    NFL RECORD 7th CONSECUTIVE DOUBLE-DIGIT LOSS SEASON AND COUNTING. wow. i am longing for a raiders team that can even be on par with the marc wilson or jay schroeder raiders. so sad.
    ======================================================
    I would love to see an 8-8 or 7-9 team. Thought that was what we would have ths year.

    Davis really needs to step aside

  194. SnB offense defense specialteams Says:

    Later folks….

    Baseball is on

  195. Glutten for Punishment Says:

    i hope, truely hope Al dies. this is worse than a joke.

  196. jhill Says:

    vegas raider Says:
    October 25th, 2009 at 7:01 pm

    Another year, and another one where Fargas is our best option at RB. Bush runs like he is 34 years old, and Darren runs like he is 17.

    —————————————————

    How about that goal line effort from Bush? Wait, he wasn’t in rhythm yet becasue he hadn’t gotten up to 20 carries.

  197. IndianaRaider Says:

    Net Yards Rushing 316

    lol, “Gotta stop the run” Yeah, good to see Cable’s plan working.

  198. jhill Says:

    Cable claimed right out the gate that Russell failed to line up his teammates in the proper formation on the first play

    —————————————————–

    I just can’t get past this.

    You’re telling me that after practicing all week, you win the opening coin toss, have the QB RIGHT NEXT TO YOU for a good 2 or 3 minutes, and you’re telling me the PLAYERS were not lined up correctly?

    Very first play of the game is a penalty by your team, and the second play, the guys don’t even know where to line up?

    LMFAO!

  199. priesttj Says:

    SnB, everyone in here was saying that we needed DMC that DMC was the kind of FOOOTBAL PLAYER that the Raiders desparately needed. That DMC would turn this running game into a track meet 1,500 yards rushing and 800 yards recieving 8-10 TD’s and Russell was legendary at LSU. Louis Murphy a draft steall MBush draft steal.

    What’s my point??? we are waaay tooooo young at the skill positions on offense to compete week in week out in this league…………….period

  200. priesttj Says:

    Lefty12, Russell buried this team in the 1st qrtr…………..period

    The defense was ready to kick some butt and they never got the chance because our numbskull coach put the ball in Russell’s hands. The running game was on hit from the start it was bruising and rippping up the Jets D and this idiot asked Russell to beat them.

  201. 17 Bob Trey O Says:

    I’m gotta agree with Seymour- the Raiders are going to the playoffs. I’ll do him one better, I’ll say when. Somewhere around 2017 or 2018

  202. Thec07 Says:

    Worst ORGANIZATION in the world….

  203. lefty12 Says:

    how dare Cable say his QB screwed up.how dare T.Howard say it was demoralizing when the team was down 14-0 before the fans that were there got in their seats.they don’t know sh!t.they should ask all the experts on here.after all,most of you know so much more than them.

  204. lefty12 Says:

    actually it went as i thought.he moved the team-something the big bust didn’t do.we all know Gradkowski isn’t a great QB,but regardless of what you perceived,he looked better than your boy.
    Priest-while it may be true your choice for QB may have lost faith in his WRs,it is also obvious the whole team has lost hope with the super bust we have playing QB.

  205. jhill Says:

    Lefty,

    Is that YOUR attempt at being a smartass? LOL!

    What happened to sticking to football.

    What happened to you while Gradkowski was playing? Didn’t quite go the way you expected, huh?

  206. Thec07 Says:

    Mr. Davis give it up….
    Retire and give all 11 of the positions, and titles to someone who is capable…

  207. Thec07 Says:

    Worst ORGANIZATION in the world….

    Highest degree of ineptitude in the history of sports.

    Team is ran like a fantasy football team, with a 80 year old ego maniac at the helm….

    My son in law said a few years ago, the raiders wont be good for a decade, i shrugged it off, but he was right….

  208. jhill Says:

    Uh, I think you might be the only person saying that Lefty. Gradkowski looked better than Russell? LOL!

    First pass was underthrown to an open Murphy. I guess you like the way Gradkowski underthrows more so than Russell?

    His 2nd pass should have been a pick to a DLINEMAN, lol!

    Moved the team? When? You mean his Garcia imitiation? You like that better than JRuss’ spin move last week? LMFAO!

    Great pocket awareness on that fumble, right? What about the other 2 picks that the Jets dropped that were clear paths to the end zone?

    Gradkowski didn’t do anything or you would have certainly been in here telling us about it, WHILE IT WAS HAPPENING! Just like you were here telling us #2 was bad.

    CMON!

  209. Sanitation Officer Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    There really is nothing left to say about this team. Jerry, can you start doing movie reviews, or something?

  210. Thec07 Says:

    We are 3 decades removed from the 70’s….
    How many NFL teams still run the organization
    the same way they ran it in the 70’s???????

  211. priesttj Says:

    Lefty12. I’m quite capable of admitting when Russell really stinks it up. But he was not alone in his endeavors our WR’s STINK. That endzone pass to Watkins was his to make a play or at least be a factor in breaking it up. These guy’s just don’t compete for the football IMO. I get that Russell is struggling mightily and have adlitted as much many times. But I would love to see him with JLH and Chaz instead of these two jokers. Give him Boldin and Fitzgerald and tell me he wouldn’t be much better? These WR’s are a factor in his confidence. We’re playing TWO ROOKIES for crying out loud. Why is he so accurate to ZM and the HB’s. I’ll tell you why ZM competes for the football……….period

    Hell did Sanchez light it up today?? but he won 38 to ZIP!!

  212. Thec07 Says:

    Mr. Davis retirement party….

  213. Sanitation Officer Albert Bigelow Paine Says:

    Has anyone seen the new Coen brothers film?

  214. Thec07 Says:

    Everything starts at the top. If we had a modern NFL organization, a lot of what we see would not be happening. Mr. Davis you were great but its time to ride into the sunset. We need lots of C4 to implode the building in alameda…

  215. ny-raider Says:

    I got to watch the game out here east coast ( live in Long Island-I got mercilessly abused but don’t care because I have always been and will always be silver and black). The stadium looked ridiculous as empty as it was, but I can’t blame anyone for not wanting to watch this live. Pure torture. For those calling for Cable’s head, I laugh at you. Do you really think Cable has anything to do with this other than being a puppet put in place to do Al Davis’ bidding?

    No respectable coach will go there. Any coach who does take the job does so knowing that they will be doing Al’s bidding. It is a waste of time until Al takes that big black and silver elevator into the sky.

    Then perhaps we can get a non-interfering owner with some sense to attract a decent GM and head coach tandem. Then, and only then, can we begin to re-build. Because then, and only then, will we be able the draft picks be made by someone with football knowledge that has been relevant in the past 25 years; to be able to finally re-install winning attitude in a place that drew me to be a raiders fan when I was 5 years old and winning was in fact tradition.

    I was disgusted today. Laughing after getting your head handed to you in your own house? I hope Sanchez enjoyed his f’ing hot dog. Looked like a move Jafatass would have pulled.

    P.S. I give Cable respect for actually pulling Blubberbutt outta the game. You know he is going to hear about it from the crypt-keeper. I just wish he was able to put Garcia in.

  216. lefty12 Says:

    Jhill,if you remember right,i said Russell should be benched to SEE if he was the problem.are you going to deny the off. functioned better when Gradkowski was in?sure,the rookie WRs still dropped balls,but the team moved the ball,something they didn’t do when Russell was in the game.DHB was thrown the slant you always demand,and it worked.it seems as if our young WRs are letting the bias of the officials really bother them.the Def. was terrible,but i is also obvious the team is frustrated by the terrible play by the supposed leader-J.Russell.

  217. Thec07 Says:

    Its official today was blow out sunday…
    If you lost today chances are you were blown out….
    No consolation to raider fans, next home game will have less people. norvell is sarting to figure it out for his hapless afc west team. Hope the D shows up, and keeps them under 30…..

  218. priesttj Says:

    I would love to see Gradkowski start for two games and see what happens. Then I would like to see Russeell with a healthy JLH and Chaz and Murphy or Walker and see what happens.

    I’ve watched russell for the better part of 6 years and I know what this kid is capable of if you put the Talent around him. He can be dominant. But he’s playing two freakin rookies. Those were not poorly thrown passes to Watkins and DHB but if you watch the WR’s you’d think they were. Terrible ball awareness.

  219. lefty12 Says:

    Priest,you keep saying the WRs aren’t helping the QB and that is true.however,it is a 2 way street-the QB,who is in his 3rd year,isn’t doing anything to help his 2 ROOKIE WRs.how many passes have the WRs had thrown to them where they could stay in stride and make a catch.not many if any.sure,they are dropping passes-just as all rookie WRs do,but the QB isn’t giving them the greatest passes either.

  220. jhill Says:

    Yes I am going to deny to offense functioned better with Gradkowski in there. What do you mean by that?

    Slant pass to DHB for 4 yds? Is that what you call moving the ball? I prefer the 24 yd pass that Russell completed to him, lol! Cmon!

    Gradkowski had three 3 and outs and a fumble in his first 4 possessions. Are you serious??!?!?

  221. new englandraider Says:

    wow, what another horrible loss. i must say though, in my opinion we can not, i repeat CAN NOT blame this on jr. this is only his 23rd career start. 23rd. when the man has time to throw the ball he looks decent. you can see potential. outside of that 1st int, the other 2 to’s were not his fault. he barely completed his dropback and was hit 4 the fumble. 2nd int was on watkins. how the hell was he falling down on that? if murphy dont drop the slant early, jr would’ve been 7-11. not too bad considering he hardly ever has time to throw, and when he does our wrs drop the frickin ball. would be nice to see what this guy can do with some halfway decent wrs and of course a little protection from the oline. but i will say it again, he doesnt look so bad when he has time to throw the ball

  222. lefty12 Says:

    Russell had 3 turnovers in his 1st 3 possessions.at least 3 and outs don’t give the other team the ball on the 4 yd line the 1st 2 possessions of the game.

  223. lefty12 Says:

    i listen to the guys on TV,i listen to guys on the radio(Flores),i listen to the coach after the game-they all say the same thing-the QB isn’t doing his job and the turnovers are his fault.all these people have been doing this for their whole lives.yet i’m supposed to ignore them and take the word of a bunch of people posting on the internet over them?get real!!!!!!!!

  224. Thec07 Says:

    Game attendance; 39,354….Lowest attendance for home game since 1968

  225. priesttj Says:

    Lefty12, there is no question his play is affecting this team, I heard it in T Howards voice they are tired of it.

    That’s why they need to see if the backup can change the mood. It certainly didn’t work today but maybe it will if he starts.

  226. BS Detector Says:

    lefty12 Says:
    October 25th, 2009 at 8:00 pm
    i listen to the guys on TV,i listen to guys on the radio(Flores),i listen to the coach after the game-they all say the same thing-the QB isn’t doing his job and the turnovers are his fault.all these people have been doing this for their whole lives.yet i’m supposed to ignore them and take the word of a bunch of people posting on the internet over them?get real!!!!!!!!
    =========================================
    I listened to all of that stuff today and not 1 person said it was all JaMarcus’s fault. So put down the pipe and stop making sh1t up to back up your argument. And please don’t be like those other idiots and use known idiot Jarrod Cooper as your “source”. Anyone that quotes him might as well be quoting Sean Salisbury. How stupid can people be?

    Does JaMarcus suck? Yes. Is it all his fault? No. Get real bro and stop lying, it makes you look like a fool.

  227. jhill Says:

    Lefty,

    You say you were watching the game, so I’m sure you saw that play early on where Russell went deep to DHB after scrambling and buying time.

    DHB stopped his route when the DB cut him off instead of running through that and drawing a penalty or going for the ball.

    Right or Wrong ?!?!?!

    Did Murphy drop that slant on the 2nd series, yes or no?

    Were you happy with the effort Watkins gave on that pass in the endzone, Yes or No?

    Should Cable have called a pass or run to START the game from our OWN 10 YD LINE?

    See, the fact that you can just brush these things off makes YOU the one who doles out excuses. The fact that you have no issue with Cable having a game plan that does not play to the strengths of this team is what I call excuses. The QB? Puh-leeze. And by that I mean Gradkowski too. First play off the bench is a deep pass to Murphy?

    Run the damn ball dude! It’s early 2nd qtr!

  228. new englandraider Says:

    how many 3rd down pasees have been dropped? quite a few. if these guys hold onto the ball drives would continue. b4 i said had murphy not dropped the slant and watkins over the middle, they guy would’ve been 8-11. wtf is wrong with that?

  229. priesttj Says:

    Jhill, all left sees is Russell he is my boy but sometimes he’s ignores some obvious facts. These rookies really suck and that pass to Watkins that was intercepted in the endzone was on Watkins, plain and simple. If Gradkowski starts he’ll see what we mean.

  230. new englandraider Says:

    THIS BLOG SUX

  231. new englandraider Says:

    YOU’RE POSTING YOUR COMMENTS TOO QUICKLY. F OFF WITH THAT SIT ALREADY. I POST AT 8:02 it comes out as 8:13. back to the future

  232. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    # Thec07 Says:
    October 25th, 2009 at 8:02 pm

    Game attendance; 39,354….Lowest attendance for home game since 1968

    ………

    Al deserves it. Keep the boycott going, everyone. Make him drown in his own misery until he retires and hires a real GM.

  233. jhill Says:

    Look Lefty,

    I’m not going to sit here and keep going back and forth with you on who is the worst QB on the team. The answer is ALL OF THEM!

    Like I’ve said a million times, I really don’t care about the QB position, I care about the whole team. A QB change is the equivalent of sweeping the dirt under the rug. This team does NOT lose 38 and 48 to nothing because of the QB. 17-6, 21-7, 14-0, or anything like that, yes.

    But these blowouts say a lot more to me.

    Sorry but why not put your defense on the field first if we won the toss? Why do we have a penalty to start the game? Why do we run the ball from our own 10 yd line? Didn’t he learn anything from the Denver game? Geeze!

    You, I, and the milkman know the QB position is an issue, so why do we KEEP seeing play calling that acts like we don’t have an issue at QB?

    THAT is what I’ve been trying to say!

  234. Thec07 Says:

    Real MR,
    Mr Davis need to hire a GM, and fire all those lackeys, yes men, and hangers on. George Atkinson

    needs to retire, and take a nap. He doesnt seem as drunk as last year but he is a buffoon….

  235. los raiders de don rober Says:

    Hey, at least the game was over by halftime and I could stop worrying about the Raiders and started watching competitive football in other channels…How in god’s green earth did this sorry organization beat the eagles last week?

  236. Richochet Says:

    Well, it’s a general concensus.
    Depending on who you talk to, the owner sucks, the offense sucks, the defense sucks..it’s the qb’s fault, it’s not his fault, it’s the WR’s fault..nope..not theirs..D line? yeah, but how bout the dbacks? them too..play calling? coaches fault/Al’s fault..neither of them at fault..back to qb/Wr/Oline/dline/…

    Let’s make it easier.

    WHAT DOESN’T SUCK ON THE RAIDERS???

    your punter and FG kicker..THAT’S IT.

    Yeah, LMFAO at you dweebs…’IT’S RUSSELL’..it’s NOT RUSSELL..geez..how freaking sorryass pathetic of a group can you be? Only thing worse is if you had racist posters on here..oh..my bad..you do, Jhill.

    Yeah yeah..it’s all because some of you pansies are so damn insecure that you don’t CARE if the Raiders suck..just as long as YOUR ARGUMENT isn’t proven wrong..too slow to realize IT ALL SUCKS..yeah..fools..Russel is the worst qb in the league. You have NO WR’s worth a damn. Your d line is horrendous, even with SeeMeMour..Dbacks can’t defend a group of old ladies..coaches are tokenheads..Oline can’t block the sun…

    AND THE FANS CONTINUE TO PROVE YOU’RE THE WORST FANS IN THE NFL..likely won’t sell out another game for years to come

    face it..from top to bottom? YOU SUCK!!

    Now..get back to your “It’s not Russell” “It is Russell” “I hate admitting I’m wrong”..”You’re always wrong”

  237. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    vegas raider Says:
    October 25th, 2009 at 6:56 pm

    Al is to blame for the “Macro” state of the team, but the players could at least deliver a better product to the fans.

    ……

    What the hell are you talking about? “Macro” state of the team? Listen, shills. You’re not going to fool anyone after a loss like today. If you’re not willing to pony up and admit that Al Davis is responsible for this debacle, then get the F on.

  238. priesttj Says:

    Lefty12, so you agree with me that it’s just a bad combination, And not Russell alone? because that’s all I’m saying, he is struggling but he needs a lot more help from the players around him.

    We don’t have any playmakers at WR……….period and it makes him look much worse.

  239. los raiders de don rober Says:

    i could care less if they bench jamarcus. changing one guy wont help this team. it sucks. they play in so many blow-outs they are kind of expecting it….

  240. Trolls 35 Raiders 0 Says:

    See post 240 for the truth :idea:

  241. lefty12 Says:

    Jhill i have to wonder what a great football mind like you is doing on here.shouldn’t you be getting your game plan for next Sat. or Sunday ready?you obviously know more than the people who are paid to do this for a living.you mention plays ROOKIE WRs aren’t making that some Exp. WRs don’t make.you never acknowledge the QB should have thrown the ball more inside or outside or deeper.you ALWAYS blame the ROOKIE WRs.if the QB led Watkins more to the left,the DB couldn’t have intercepted the ball.a good QB puts the ball where only his Rec. can get it,he doesn’t just throw it up and expect his Rec. to make great catches.

  242. Noshadowking Says:

    Yeah the whole playcalling isnt as important as the execution is complete bs. Yes executon is key as in people dropping passes or running bad routs is killing drives but at the same time how bout good play calling to give some of these guys confidence. Seriously if we had Drew Brees, Peyton Manning etc back there then yes we could rely on the passing game but we dont. So Cable needs to be calling running plays until the running game wears down the defense a bit. We have rookie wr’s out there. Does anyone seriously think they have a ton of confidence when every drive is relying on them to catch 15-20 yard passes to keep a drive going. Now if its 3rd and 3-4 and have gotten a few first tons from rushing then maybe some of these guys would get some confidence back. The 2 calls taking away receptions for Murphy I really think have shatttered his confidence completely. At half time even if your down 3 td’s you have plenty of time and can come out rushing. Man its not just Al Davis messing this team up guys

  243. los raiders de don rober Says:

    we have the cheapest coaches in the nfl. we have no scouting department. let the rest take care of itself.

  244. priesttj Says:

    Jhill, post#234 true dat!! That is my point exactly.

    Cable is a retard.

  245. BS Detector Says:

    Ricochet

    why are you so mad?

  246. new englandraider Says:

    f you richochet. you just said we have no wrs and that our oline sux. which both are very true. i’ll ask you this. what qb would succeed with this group of wrs and this oline?

  247. jhill Says:

    Ok Lefty ….

    I see your points, and you won’t have to worry about me pumping up #2 any longer. It’s all about #5 going forward until #2 shows … well it’s all about #5 for now so forget about #2.

    This team is just a QB away from doing something.

    Our HC is doing the best he can.

    Our rookies WRs are not as bad as they seem.

    Our RT and RG situation doesn’t need fixing.

    Bush is a bona fide back waiting on a QB.

    And our defense will be able to stop the run more consistently once they get a QB who can actaully play the game.

    Got it!

    Don’t know what I was thinking.

  248. Thec07 Says:

    Who is responsible for putting this so called product on the field? the ORGANIZATION.

    Mr. Davis <——-The ORGANIZATION

  249. lefty12 Says:

    Priest,you heard Howard.it is obvious the team got down after the first 2 series we turned the ball over-the here we go again thing.he also said he sees Russell working and insinuated he isn’t seeing any results.at this point in time JR is dragging the team down.is it all on him-no.but he is being paid to lead the team and as of now i don’t believe the team believes in their leader.it also didn’t sit well that after he was pulled,he was laughing on the sidelines.

  250. Thec07 Says:

    You could have superman play qb, put the flash at running back and the raiders would still mess it up…

  251. BS Detector Says:

    Ricochet

    Why are you so angry?

  252. Noshadowking Says:

    Well the person responsible for the offensive playcalling on the field right now is Tom Cable not Al Davis

  253. kidseven Says:

    Cable is a genius. I love how he got Fargas averaging 10 yards per carry then seductively transitioned to putting the game in his all-world QB’s hands.

  254. Trolls 35 Raiders 0 Says:

    # Noshadowking Says:
    October 25th, 2009 at 8:25 pm

    Well the person responsible for the offensive playcalling on the field right now is Tom Cable not Al Davis

    Not Cable :oops: DAVIS :evil:

  255. Thec07 Says:

    los raiders de don rober Says:
    October 25th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
    we have the cheapest coaches in the nfl. we have no scouting department. let the rest take care of itself.

    …..

    Mr Davis <—— The scouting department…

  256. Noshadowking Says:

    You really think Al Davis has time each week to call the plays on offense while he is busy meddling in the defensive scheme lol. I think he is to old now to handle both

  257. lefty12 Says:

    Thomas Howard said it himself-it is on the players.they are being coached but they aren’t executing.the players are missing tackles,not the coaches.i know most of you hate G.Atkinson-probably because you are too young to know better-but he said it is on the players for not executing.football is as much mental as physical.when we get down 14-0 in the 1st 5 min of the game it changes everything.

  258. priesttj Says:

    Strong minded teams get down big and still compete we didn’t. Yes we’ll put thid on Russell up to a point but others need to step up too.

    If everyone gets down jus because they have Russell that to me is very WEAK!! so I hope that isn’t true. How in hell did the Ravens win the SB?

    The Steelers won in spite of Big Ben. But Russell is just too much to overcome? Left that is called an excuse. Sorry!!

  259. Plunketthead Says:

    It seems to me I have spent the better part of the last 25 years screaming at the TV.
    Run the dam ball, run the dam ball, run the dam ball.
    It seems we always have horses on the bench.

    I am about 95% sure that Al is the reason we pass so much. That means Cable is just doing what Al tells him to for the most part.

    Knowing Al just a little bit, I suspect his next move is too hire a big name coach. Holmgren, maybe Parcells and give them a piece of the team. Then get out of the way.

  260. Plunketthead Says:

    I should add that I dunno if Holmgren is up to the job. Parcells has proven time and time again he can turn around a team.
    I dont think theres many other people out there.

  261. Plunketthead Says:

    JERRY; FIX YOUR BLOG, FOR CRYING OUT LOUD

    I agree that the players are not earning their wages.
    Cant run the ball
    Cant stop the run
    Cant pass the ball
    Cant stop the pass

    That is usually when you bring in a new coach

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