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Final: Jets 38, Raiders 0

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Sunday, October 25th, 2009 at 4:11 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Scoring

NYJ_Shonn Greene 33-yard run (Jay Feely kicks PAT).

Notes:

Have to bail on blog notes until later because of added print responsibilities today . . .

Worst home loss ever. Previous worst margin was 41-7 (34 points), most recently in Brett Favre game on Dec. 22, 2003

Go ahead and vent.

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  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    vegas raider Says:
    October 25th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
    SnB,

    No doubt Al is the biggest culprit in this mess, but that doesn’t mean everyone gets a free-pass due to Al’s ineptitude.

    A team can put up with a struggling QB, if he works hard, his teammates respect his work-ethic and know that he is doing everything to improve. Either Jamarcus isn’t doing this stuff, or he is and is just awful. I think it is a little-bit of both.
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    Who drafted Russell? Who doesn’t allow his coaches to discipline Russell?

    Who forces the coaches to play these #$#!ed schemes?

    Who hires incompetent coaches?

    Blaming the players is like blaming the waitress in a restaurant for the bad food.

  • Mistabrown

    Imagine Tom Cable having to conduct a press conference and defend AL’s decisions without mentioning his name, just sit there and take it up the shoot, for AL!

    Thats why he says the same krap after every loss. He believes in this team., etc etc you dont say krap like that unless you are powerless in making change….period

  • Nnamdi21

    Stick with Russell. Put in Schilens and Walker. Stat.

  • Nnamdi21

    Khalif played right tackle today. Wasn’t horrible.

  • jhill

    Great Vegas,

    Just what we need, two idoits in the media battling it out as to who’s the bigger idiot, lol!

    Cable vs. Russell in the media?

    Cable and Russell are both wrong?

    Formation? Cmon Cable, you can do better than that, lol!

    Pace went UNTOUCHED around Barnes! Check down? I think the issue was ball security and being unaware of a man coming free right at him.

    I bet that was Cable’s answer to if he would give up playcalling based on that first play he called leading to a turnover, lol!

    Formation? What, did you call a running play and the QB blew it?

  • Nnamdi21

    No sacks today? No pass rush and yes, there were blitzes. Asomugha even came on one. Got burned by them a couple times too.

  • Raider E

    SPECULATION IS RAMPANT, WOW!!!!

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    Mistabrown,

    Tom Cable is just collecting a check. He took the job because he knew this was his only shot at collecting that multi-million dollar check.

    This guy is a ZBS O-Line coach and that’s it!

    Yet he’s the head coach AND offensive coordinator.

    What a joke

  • jhill

    Nnamdi21 Says:
    October 25th, 2009 at 6:21 pm

    Khalif played right tackle today. Wasn’t horrible.

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    Sad that “wasn’t horrible” was actually an upgrade at RT, lol!

  • http://blstb.msn.com/i/55/90A2853B6CFBCC2AFC987BB18B832.jpg vegas raider

    SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
    October 25th, 2009 at 6:18 pm

    Blaming the players is like blaming the waitress in a restaurant for the bad food.

    ***********************************

    Let’s take this analogy a little furthur.

    Jamarcus isn’t doing his best, apologizing for the bad food, asking how he can fix-it and busting his tail to at least keep your glasses full of your drink.

    He is being rude, passing the blame on, and sitting in the corner on his cell-phone instead of filling up the drinks.

  • Kirk

    I thought Gradkowski played well. He hit DHB right in the hands with a touchdown pass. I hope he starts next week. Jamarcus Russell will never be a pro quarterback. Gradkowski at least has the guts to tuck the ball in and run for first downs. He reminds me a little bit of Gannon.

  • Nnamdi21

    SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
    October 25th, 2009 at 6:18 pm

    “Blaming the players is like blaming the waitress in a restaurant for the bad food.”

    ==============================

    If the bish is dropping the **** on the way to the table then YEAH!

    Jayzuz, CATCH THE DAMB BALL!

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    What happens if the Raiders run the ball on 1st and 10 from the 10 yd line?

  • Nnamdi21

    Kirk, please, just please…

  • jhill

    Nnamdi21 Says:
    October 25th, 2009 at 6:21 pm

    No sacks today?

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    I think Sanchez threw the ball 14 times today, and most of that was after it was already over. Not too many chances for sacks when the team is tearing off 300yds on the ground!

  • Mistabrown

    George Atkinson is perplexed at what he saw…..AS IF GEORGE DOESN’T KNOW AL IS BEHIND THE SCENES HAND CUFFING HIS COACHES AND STICKING HIS NOSE IN THE GAME PLAN ETC ETC.

    George Atkinson has the same disease that priest, oakglen, and some of you other derelicts have!

    THERE IS NOTHING PERPLEXING ABOUT THIS! THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN AN OWNER WONT FALL BACK AND LET THE COACHES COACH……PERIOD

  • Kirk

    Michael Crabtree had 5 catches for 56 yards today. With no preseason. All I had to do to know Crabtree was better than DHB was look at 10 minutes of film of the two of them. Davis is an idiot.

  • Mistabrown

    2ND & 9, AND THEN 3RD & 6 AND THEN JADUMBELL COUGHS UP THE BALL OR THROWS A PICK, MOST LIKELY!

    Mute point!

    # SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
    October 25th, 2009 at 6:25 pm

    What happens if the Raiders run the ball on 1st and 10 from the 10 yd line?

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    Kirk Says:
    October 25th, 2009 at 6:24 pm
    I thought Gradkowski played well. He hit DHB right in the hands with a touchdown pass. I hope he starts next week. Jamarcus Russell will never be a pro quarterback. Gradkowski at least has the guts to tuck the ball in and run for first downs. He reminds me a little bit of Gannon.
    ======================================================
    That historical comparison garbage is what has us in this hole now. Davis trying to recreate the 70s

    ANd now you trying to laud a backup QB.

    We have no quarterbacks…none.

    We better bring in Rex Grossman and JP Losman next year.

    No more rookies or young QBs.

    We don’t have the coaching staff or organization to get that done.

    Get a veteran

  • priesttj

    Cable’s playcalling borders on pshycotic Fargas was running wild WHY DID YOU PASS? SUICIDE!!

  • http://blstb.msn.com/i/55/90A2853B6CFBCC2AFC987BB18B832.jpg vegas raider

    SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
    October 25th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
    What happens if the Raiders run the ball on 1st and 10 from the 10 yd line?

    *****************************************

    I doubt it would have been any worse than first and 10 Jets from the 5 yard line.

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    Mistabrown Says:
    October 25th, 2009 at 6:28 pm
    2ND & 9, AND THEN 3RD & 6 AND THEN JADUMBELL COUGHS UP THE BALL OR THROWS A PICK, MOST LIKELY!
    =======================================================
    Good…then we can punt the ball and live for another day!

    Dumbazz coaching.

    Everyone in the universe knows the Raiders have no QB.

    So the coach highlights the talentless guy

  • http://blstb.msn.com/i/55/90A2853B6CFBCC2AFC987BB18B832.jpg vegas raider

    Can we draft the QB from Georgia Tech and just run the triple option all-game? Someone try to convince me that it would be worse than what we currently have going on offense.

  • Kirk

    Let’s see how Russell responds??? He leads the NFL in fumbles! He is not going to make it in the NFL. He will take his $32 million and go home.

  • EYoung

    The underlying problem is Al Davis. Year after year I read about next year, the next coach, the next player, but rarely do I read about the real problem that haunts the team every year. That is Al Davis. Until he goes, nothing will change – ever. So Oakland fans, hush up until the toxin is gone…

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    Vegas Raider,

    The idiot drafts players based on physical attributes and not on football IQ.

    The Owner hires coaches that are pliant.

    So you think swapping out the playahs is going to change anything.

    The one coach who did things correctly got TRADED!

    I am with MaddenRaider on this one.

    Any blame that is not 100% focused on Al Davis is misdirected.

    Al Davis is totally responsible for all this.

  • jhill

    The Jets had FOUR FIRST ROUND PICKS on their Oline on the way to over 300 yds rushing.

    They didn’t ask their QB to do ANYTHING but HAND THE BALL OFF!

    Why is that so hard for some of you to understand? Sanchez didn’t do squat but run a QB draw, lol! He had ZERO plays in the game. His lone TD has a HELLUVA play on an UNDERTHROWN ball by a 5th string WR, lol!

    Great job of shaking yourself Ryan and realizing that you didn’t have Broadway Joe and you just needed to run the fugging ball.

    And SnB, a 3 and out with a helluva punt by Lechler to see if we could rattle the young QB SHOULD have been the move.

    But NO, Cable was impressed with the progress Russell has been making the past 3 weeks. He told you at last weeks PC that it was coming. You could see him gloating b/c Russell finally had a decent game. Couple that with Cable expecting Chaz back and the playbook we saw last week was back in th closet.

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    Mistabrown Says:
    October 25th, 2009 at 6:37 pm
    Maybe Cable is doing this to thumb his nose at Davis? What if Cable wanted to bench Russell in the pre-season for being over weight and Davis told him no?
    =====================================================
    Cable is collecting a check. I don’t hate on him for that. Gotta feed your family and he has the opportunity to secure his family’s future for ever.

    An O-Line coach probably makes 300 or 400K…he’s making about $2M or so as head coach. That’s 5yrs of pay to be a puppet.

    But his playcalling is terrible.

    Its clear that Al Davis is running the entire show including the starting lineup

  • Kirk

    SnB, you are right. Al Davis is the problem.

    McFadden instead of Clady. DHB instead of Crabtree. Even I knew these were the wrong decisions.

  • Mistabrown

    Maybe Cable is doing this to thumb his nose at Davis? What if Cable wanted to bench Russell in the pre-season for being over weight and Davis told him no?

    What if Cable wanted to keep Garcia and Davis told him no?

    What if you were Tom Cable and Davis forced Russell on you and Russell didnt watch film, showed up late for meetings, came in out of shape. if Im Cable maybe I throw that POS to the wolves..

    # SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
    October 25th, 2009 at 6:30 pm

    Good…then we can punt the ball and live for another day!

    Dumbazz coaching.

    Everyone in the universe knows the Raiders have no QB.

    So the coach highlights the talentless guy

  • Mistabrown

    Priest……SHUT YOUR PIEHOLE!

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    vegas raider Says:
    October 25th, 2009 at 6:30 pm
    Can we draft the QB from Georgia Tech and just run the triple option all-game? Someone try to convince me that it would be worse than what we currently have going on offense.
    ============================================
    No. No more rookies or young players. The coaching quality and turnover is such that no young QB would succeed.

    They need to bring in a fiery veteran that could play for about 5 or 6 yrs. Someone that is around 30 yrs old that can provide the leadership that our stuffed shirt coaches won’t provide.

    A vet QB that can manage the game.

    We will never have a gunslinger QB here…and probably never should given our reckless playcalling

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    priesttj Says:
    October 25th, 2009 at 6:29 pm
    Cable’s playcalling borders on pshycotic Fargas was running wild WHY DID YOU PASS? SUICIDE!!
    =======================================================
    Agreed!

    Cable is in over his head for sure. Didn’t even give the running game a chance. Especially given that the QB and WRs are way behind schedule

  • priesttj

    DB’s know that if they are physical with our WR’s that they will not compete. Russell’s confidence in his WR’s is a 2 on a 1 to 10 scale. That along with his struggles doesn’t bode well for an aggressive passing game which Cable seems to think he can just do whatever and come out good.

    Cable needs to give the playcalling responsibilities to Hackett who will protect Russell from himself.

  • Mistabrown

    SnB if you’re going to feed the animals dont get mad when poop gets thrown on you.

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    Vegas,

    Sure, the players could have more pride. But Davis is the one that collects players that have low football IQs or are just plain lazy azz $%@#%$%

    Seems the Raiders have more than their fair share of b*&&& on the team

  • http://blstb.msn.com/i/55/90A2853B6CFBCC2AFC987BB18B832.jpg vegas raider

    Al is to blame for the “Macro” state of the team, but the players could at least deliver a better product to the fans.

    Think, even if Jamarcus takes all those sacks today, but doesn’t fumble, or throw the awful pick. We still have a team that is full of athletes and not tough lines, so we would have still given up way too much on Run D, been unable to protect the QB, and our coach would still be below NFL level talent. We could still have all those problems, and maybe lost 17-6 today, still be 2-5 but would have been slightly entertained as the consumer.

    Instead it was 38-0, thanks to Cable and Jamarcus not Al Davis, the game was over literally after one ill-advised play. Pathetic.

  • http://blstb.msn.com/i/55/90A2853B6CFBCC2AFC987BB18B832.jpg vegas raider

    Another year, and another one where Fargas is our best option at RB. Bush runs like he is 34 years old, and Darren runs like he is 17.

  • Mistabrown

    Priest is on the radio as I type repeating his post # 184 and sounding like a deranged fool, the host pretty much cut him off mid-sentence…..lmao

  • flowbees

    NFL RECORD 7th CONSECUTIVE DOUBLE-DIGIT LOSS SEASON AND COUNTING. wow. i am longing for a raiders team that can even be on par with the marc wilson or jay schroeder raiders. so sad.

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    vegas raider Says:
    October 25th, 2009 at 7:01 pm
    Another year, and another one where Fargas is our best option at RB. Bush runs like he is 34 years old, and Darren runs like he is 17.
    ====================================================
    Again, who drafted these guys?

    Bush is a 4th round pick so no big deal

    DMAC should have never been drafted. But you know who got enchanted with his yards that he racked up against Troy State and Louisiana Monroe.

    Draft football players!

  • Mistabrown

    Great call Priest! They couldn’t get you off the line fast enough…..ll

    You dont sound at all like a deranged lunatic but feel free to call out AL anytime this century!

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    flowbees Says:
    October 25th, 2009 at 7:02 pm
    NFL RECORD 7th CONSECUTIVE DOUBLE-DIGIT LOSS SEASON AND COUNTING. wow. i am longing for a raiders team that can even be on par with the marc wilson or jay schroeder raiders. so sad.
    ======================================================
    I would love to see an 8-8 or 7-9 team. Thought that was what we would have ths year.

    Davis really needs to step aside

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    Later folks….

    Baseball is on

  • Glutten for Punishment

    i hope, truely hope Al dies. this is worse than a joke.

  • jhill

    vegas raider Says:
    October 25th, 2009 at 7:01 pm

    Another year, and another one where Fargas is our best option at RB. Bush runs like he is 34 years old, and Darren runs like he is 17.

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    How about that goal line effort from Bush? Wait, he wasn’t in rhythm yet becasue he hadn’t gotten up to 20 carries.

  • IndianaRaider

    Net Yards Rushing 316

    lol, “Gotta stop the run” Yeah, good to see Cable’s plan working.

  • jhill

    Cable claimed right out the gate that Russell failed to line up his teammates in the proper formation on the first play

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    I just can’t get past this.

    You’re telling me that after practicing all week, you win the opening coin toss, have the QB RIGHT NEXT TO YOU for a good 2 or 3 minutes, and you’re telling me the PLAYERS were not lined up correctly?

    Very first play of the game is a penalty by your team, and the second play, the guys don’t even know where to line up?

    LMFAO!

  • priesttj

    SnB, everyone in here was saying that we needed DMC that DMC was the kind of FOOOTBAL PLAYER that the Raiders desparately needed. That DMC would turn this running game into a track meet 1,500 yards rushing and 800 yards recieving 8-10 TD’s and Russell was legendary at LSU. Louis Murphy a draft steall MBush draft steal.

    What’s my point??? we are waaay tooooo young at the skill positions on offense to compete week in week out in this league…………….period

  • priesttj

    Lefty12, Russell buried this team in the 1st qrtr…………..period

    The defense was ready to kick some butt and they never got the chance because our numbskull coach put the ball in Russell’s hands. The running game was on hit from the start it was bruising and rippping up the Jets D and this idiot asked Russell to beat them.