The bottom 10 vs. Jets
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Sunday, October 25th, 2009 at 8:24 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Ten notable developments of Sunday’s 38-0 loss to the Jets at the Coliseum:
1) Tom Cable didn’t sugarcoat it. While the entire team is responsible for a loss of this magnitude, there was no trying to sell the notion that the problems of JaMarcus Russell had to do with everything but JaMarcus Russell.
Game-opening fumble? Russell should have checked it down. Interception thrown under pressure to Jim Leonhard? No good explanation. Interception in the end zone on first-and-10 intended for Todd Watkins?
“Just threw it up there,” Cable said. He said Russell was “out of sorts” and noted, “I just did not feel like at that point he gave us the best chance to have the success we needed to have offensively and made the move.”
2) Russell calmly disagreed with Cable’s assessment.
On the fumble, Russell said he was supposed to check down and didn’t have. The interception to Leonhard was because a defender had “crossed his face” and the one by Revis came when he was trying to allow Watkins to “make a play.”
Never mind that it was first-and-10 and he threw it up for grabs.
Russell acted like he knows the job is his until Cable is told otherwise.
In 79 possessions with the Russell at quarterback, the Raiders have 14 turnovers and have scored 14 times with nine field goals and five touchdowns.
3) Cable has now coached 19 games for the Raiders and has lost nine times by three or more touchdowns.
All the talk of carrying the fight for every play fell on deaf ears a week after Philadelphia. Whatever is in the DNA of this team to allow itself to be blown out on a fairly regular schedule still exists no matter how hard Cable tries to exorcise it.
4) The Raiders gave up 316 yards rushing to a team they knew beyond any doubt was going to run the ball. No trickery, no deceit, just a lot of hammering away at a defense that knew what was coming.
And they were helpless to stop it. The 316 yards was more than they ever gave up under six porous run defenses under Rob Ryan and the most since they gave up 319 yards to Seattle on Nov. 11, 2001, a night when Shawn Alexander gained 266 yards on 35 carries.
Cable didn’t see the sense in holding one particular area accountable.
“I think when a team runs for 300-plus it’s everybody,” Cable said. “I don’t know that you say it’s just up front, it’s the backers, or its this or that. It’s everybody.”
Bill Callahan, by the way, is a hell of an assistant coach. Always has been. His offensive line took the Raiders apart, he got a Gatorade bath afterward and refrained from proclaiming his opponent the “dumbest team in America.”
5) The crowd of 39,354 was the first sub-40,000 (announced) crowd since the Raiders returned to Oakland and the lowest for an Oakland Raiders game since Oct. 27, 1968 and a 37,083 total against the Cincinnati Bengals.
The actual fan count was much less. At one point, there was a 7-Eleven ad on the big screen that included uproarious laughter from the actors, and it was a little creepy to hear the guffaws echoing through a more than half-empty stadium while the home team was getting blown out.
6) Chaz Schilens was too sore to play, and wide receivers continue to be a non-factor. Russell was completing 24.3 percent of his passes to wideouts with one touchdown and five interceptions. Make that six, with Revis getting another one.
Louis Murphy dropped a third-and-3 slant on the Raiders second possession, killing a drive. Darrius Heyward-Bey caught two passes for 28 yards and dropped a late fade that could have ruined a shutout and there was much rejoicing.
He is, after all, just one catch behind Michael Crabtree, who had five receptions in his debut.
“It’s good to catch the ball. I had two catches today,” Heyward-Bey said. “That was a positive thing during the game. We just as a group we have to do more.”
Either Javon Walker is on triple-secret probation or he is the worst receiver in the NFL. Otherwise, he at least gets a shot.
7) Cable made two unnanounced changes to the starting lineup that had zero effect. Michael Huff took over for Hiram Eugene at free safety, and Barnes assumed the right tackle spot (for the first time in his career) from Erik Pears.
Barnes was the tackle on for both sacks recorded by the Jets.
The point is, Cable doesn’t have a lot of moves to make with regard to the lineup to shake things up that will make things any better.
Afterward, he talked about how it would help to have four key players back _ running back Darren McFadden, Schilens, left guard Robert Gallery and right tackle Cornell Green.
Truth is, the Raiders weren’t exactly tearing it up when McFadden and Green were around. As for Schilens, it’s been almost 11 weeks since he got hurt and it’s tough to know when he’ll make a real impression.
8 ) Michael Bush is running out of time to make a move. For all his running/receiving skills, Bush hasn’t gotten the requisite work to make an impression or done enough with what he’s received to merit more.
When McFadden returns, he’ll get the same deal as Russell and Heyward-Bey _ big money, lots of playing time. Cable likes Fargas better than Bush.
9) Chris Johnson isn’t playing nearly at the level as he did last year. This time David Clowney beat him on a 35-yard touchdown play, with Johnson recovering too late and giving up the score. Yes, he gets lots of work because of the presence of Nnamdi Asomugha, but he got it last year as well and parlayed it into a $4 million signing bonus.
10) Brian Schneider, where are you?
Special teams can be up and down from year to year, but the fact is they were very good for most of the time under Schneider last season and have awful with the exception of Shane Lechler’s punting and Sebastian Janikowski’s kicking this year.
Included in Sunday’s disaster was an opening kickoff penalty on Brandon Myers (illegal block) which caused the Raiders to open at the 10 _ a prelude to the Russell turnover.
Johnnie Lee Higgins returned one punt for minus-1 yard and let another fair catch fall, a play in which he raced up to the ball and was fortunate it didn’t take a sideways bounce and hit him for a fumble. Jonathan Holland had no kickoff return longer than 17 yards.
The worst play? Punter Steve Weatherford raced 16 yards for a first down when it was apparent film study had shown the Raiders would be running the other way and paying no attention to him.
“The whole thing this week was to make sure the ball was kicked, regardless of the situation and we just didn’t do it,” Cable said. “We took our eyes off the punter, got into the return too soon and everybody turned and ran.”
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October 25th, 2009 at 8:26 pm
Ricochet
What’s wrong pumpkin?
October 25th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
Mr. Davis Retire….
October 25th, 2009 at 8:35 pm
Cable taking on JRuss in the media ???
He’ll be fired by the bye week!
You know Al is not having that!
October 25th, 2009 at 8:37 pm
Demolistion the building in alameda….
October 25th, 2009 at 8:37 pm
Ricochet
What can I do to help peanut? Why are you so mad?
October 25th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
# Noshadowking Says:
October 25th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
You really think Al Davis has time each week to call the plays on offense while he is busy meddling in the defensive scheme lol. I think he is to old now to handle both
He
doesn’t need time 
He 
just has the coaches 
follow the game plan from the 1969 Jet game 
October 25th, 2009 at 8:40 pm
I just got home from the game, I can’t stand Ja Marcus and I hope they send him back to Alabama with his diamond rings, bracelets, watches, chains, pendants, earrings, and brand new white rolls royce.
Why oh why couldn’t it have been JRuss’s leg instead of Washingtons…? absolutely pitiful, thank god only 39k fans showed up
STICK IT TO AL’S POCKET BOOK!!
October 25th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
Ricochet
It will be ok little buddy
October 25th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
new englandraider Says:
October 25th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
f you richochet. you just said we have no wrs and that our oline sux. which both are very true. i’ll ask you this. what qb would succeed with this group of wrs and this oline?
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f me? lol…ouch. You big meany.
On to your question, Brutus.
which qb would SUCCEED?? As in? Winning the division? none.
getting in playoffs? none
Let’s do some measurable comparisons..
Which qb would show up, in shape? EVERYONE except JaBlubberButt.
Which qb would learn the WHOLE PLAY BOOK? Everyone except J-Hooked-on-Phonics
Which qb would actually look like they give a damn?
Pretty much everyone in the NFL..except for J-Blase’.
Which player, when asked how he was playing, after he played like total crap, would reply “I think I’m doing just fine”?? ONLY J-SloMo.
How many starting qb’s can’t even go through simple check downs? Only one…J-I-is-so-confused.
How many starters continue to miss wide open receivers, over and over and over? Just JR..I mean…WIDE OPEN RECEIVERS..no, not in and out of their hand throws..talking about missing EVERYONE on the field..they’re so off the mark?..Just JR.
Other than that? He’s doing great
October 25th, 2009 at 8:43 pm
Lol. What a joke the bottom ten. Tom Cable should man up in the press conference and say the 1 problem today is I abandoned the run in the play calling. First five carries Justin Fargas had 62 yards. Seriously does anything else need to be said. 2nd half they put Grad in and have him attempt like 5 straight passes. Wow Cable has completely abandoned the game plan that helped win a couple games at the end of the last year that actually gave him this job
October 25th, 2009 at 8:43 pm
Mark Sanchez eating a hot dog during the game is better that all the raiders QB’s
And even better than Al Davis (whatever that means)
October 25th, 2009 at 8:44 pm
Fire Cable!
October 25th, 2009 at 8:46 pm
Ricochet
I miss mom too
October 25th, 2009 at 8:47 pm
That is pretty funny Troll. Almost makes you imagine al handing some nerdy kid the old playbook and telling him to reprint it and make it look new
October 25th, 2009 at 8:49 pm
ya,this is the NFL,what the hell is the coach thinking calling a pass play?he should know his $60 million qb can’t be expected to complete a pass or read a def. or make a decent judgement on any plays.we aren’t only a QB away from being a great team,but we are only a QB away from being a competitive team.and wasn’t that the goal coming into this year-improving and being competitive every week?
October 25th, 2009 at 8:50 pm
I guess its time for Oakland to start thinking about the next head coach and the draft again
Its sad but probably reality
October 25th, 2009 at 8:54 pm
Ricochet
It’s high time that you update your facebook status.
October 25th, 2009 at 8:55 pm
what the hell is the coach thinking calling a pass play?he should know his $60 million qb can’t be expected to complete a pass or read a def. or make a decent judgement on any plays.
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You know it, so why shouldn’t Cable know it?
And now the QB is making 60 million? LOL at the propaganda!
And why are you the ONLY person out of all the people who were at the game and saw it on TV claiming that Russell was on the sideline laughing when he got taken out?
That’s a flat out lie!
Things are bad enough around here without you having to make up that kinda stuff.
October 25th, 2009 at 8:57 pm
it was on tv.
October 25th, 2009 at 9:04 pm
btw,my wife pointed it out.
October 25th, 2009 at 9:05 pm
I realize everyone has an opinion. But I think it’s pretty obvious you would have 99% of anyone watching would NOT have called a pass on the first play of the game.
I bet those same 99% would not have called a pass play after the 2 big Fargas runs.
4 of the first 5 plays pass plays? With this QB? I bet you 99% of anyone watching football would NOT have called those plays.
October 25th, 2009 at 9:07 pm
Worst organization on the planet….
October 25th, 2009 at 9:07 pm
Street gangs are ran better…
October 25th, 2009 at 9:08 pm
Ricochet
It’s ok peanut, I won’t tell dad. He thinks you are working right now. Your secret is safe with me bro.
October 25th, 2009 at 9:12 pm
Al Davis sucks. His believers suck. Bill Callahan is the Jets offensive coordinator. That’s the guy who called the Raiders the dumbest team in America. He was fired, because according to Al, he was the problem. That was 6 years ago. We’ve sucked ever since. Hat’s off to Bill Callahan. What a win for him today.
October 25th, 2009 at 9:16 pm
There’s too much negativity with this team right now. Tom Cable needs to look at the positives on the Raiders and build on them.
A positive aspect about the Raiders right now is…
…
…
Shane Lechler!
So Cable should try and win the field position battle by PUNTING ON THIRD DOWN.
Actually, now that I think about it, second down would safer…
Hmmm, maybe we should kick it on first.
October 25th, 2009 at 9:18 pm
go back and look when Grad first went into the game,when Russell didn’t realize he was being replaced.he was on the sidelines and he was laughing.and my wife DID say look at that,why is he laughing.i actually defended him and said he wasn’t laughing he was smiling because he probably wasn’t told what was going on.
October 25th, 2009 at 9:18 pm
AL DAVIS: RETIRE NOW
October 25th, 2009 at 9:19 pm
We’ve got no shot to do anything because as soon as we do anything we get blown the hell out. I’m sorrry but to blame that on a QB is ridiculous.
38 to 0
I’m watching the Giants and Cards and Manning has thrown 3 picks and FOUR t/o’s same as Russell. But that team played competitive football.
All Manning was doing is trying to give his players a chance to make plays. Manning gasn’t played very well since his win over the hapless Raiders. 0 and 2 since then.
October 25th, 2009 at 9:19 pm
Mark Sanchez eating a hot dog during the game
LOL
October 25th, 2009 at 9:20 pm
lefty12 Says:
October 25th, 2009 at 9:04 pm
btw,my wife pointed it out.
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Liars tend to marry other liars. The real question is do b1tches marry other b1tches cuz it sure appears that way in your case.
Get him Ricochet!
October 25th, 2009 at 9:21 pm
MR, dumbell pimping Callahan of all losers.
October 25th, 2009 at 9:24 pm
Priest,Jhill,i’m too pissed after this game.don’t mean to be so argumentative with you .sorry.later.
October 25th, 2009 at 9:27 pm
ITS A WASTE OF TIME PUTTING BLAME ON QBS OR COACHES OR WAHATEVER,,,
AL DAVIS IS THE BLAME
DEAL WITH IT….
October 25th, 2009 at 9:31 pm
AlmDavis this, Al Davis that, Al Davis Retire, Al Davis die. If all of the above happened it would take another 4 to 5 years to become respectable because Jasupersize isnt going to do it. And then when they are a desireable team in that amount of time or more, its time to move from the dreadful oakland colusium, anyone knows an nfl team will not flourish anymore in this city. A superbowl in Oakland……..Fat chance……….sf will prosper from that not oakland……where will people go to eat superbowl week kwikways……………………forget it football in Oakland as we know it is done.
October 25th, 2009 at 9:31 pm
it’s me sweetie
October 25th, 2009 at 9:32 pm
priesttj Says:
October 25th, 2009 at 9:32 pm
I wish Al Davis was the fault of all this, But in truth owners own, coaches coach and players play…………period
We’re just tooo young on offense………..period
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And you’re an idiot, PERIOD.
What you meant to say is owners are SUPPOSED TO JUST OWN..and not coach. Coaches are SUPPOSED to coach, and not be puppets. Players are SUPPOSED to do what the coach tells them, instead of mocking him.
Ok, now you try it.
October 25th, 2009 at 9:32 pm
I wish Al Davis was the fault of all this, But in truth owners own, coaches coach and players play…………period
We’re just tooo young on offense………..period
October 25th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
Culebra Says:
October 25th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
How do you go from winning one week and be completely limp the next?
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Simple.
In week one you play a team who’s vastly over rated, who’s win’s came against teams that were total garbage, which gave that team the impression that they’re 3 wins we’re admirable, instead of hardly earned.
And then you play a team who’s not vastly over rated.
Quite simple, actually.
October 25th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
How do you go from winning one week and be completely limp the next?
October 25th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
Culebra Says:
October 25th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
How do you go from winning one week and be completely limp the next?
…….
Team needs viagra…
October 25th, 2009 at 9:39 pm
culebra, I will tell you how, oakland is a place to collect a paycheck, plain and simple. Hey I didnt want to believe all the hype but it is staring us in the face, there is very little coachable talent on this team. Like ron white says you cant fix stupid. About 2 to 3 guys on both offence and defense arent puting out
October 25th, 2009 at 9:39 pm
I dont want Mr. Davis to die. I just want him to retire.
70’s football is passe. Mr. Davis needs to take up bingo, gin rummy, or cribbage…
Mr. Davis needs to hire a GM, and then go, ride into the sunset.
This is not just about today, its the last 8 years…
7 losing 1 you run your HC out of dodge….
October 25th, 2009 at 9:42 pm
BHP,
We are not just young on offense, But the Fact is Cable is a sorry excuse for a HC!
Fire Cable, and legalize it!
October 25th, 2009 at 9:45 pm
AL CALL GRUDEN!!!
October 25th, 2009 at 9:51 pm
Thec,
Let’s go to Oakland and kidnap Cable. Send The NFL a tape demanding they retire Davis, or we’ll feed Cable to the sharks!
October 25th, 2009 at 9:58 pm
It was awesome seeing Callahan celebrate that win with his team today. And Callahan, were you ever right. Dumbest team in America, dumbest owner in America. Nothing has changed. Savor the victory, Bill. You too, Randy Hanson. I know you had a nice, dry Martini poured this afternoon.
October 25th, 2009 at 9:58 pm
LMAO @ tape! No CDs!
October 25th, 2009 at 10:00 pm
CDs don’t scare people but tapes do. lol
October 25th, 2009 at 10:03 pm
things arent going to change here until we get a proven head coach who has an idea on how to use this team properly but also commands respect the minute he steps in the room. no more retreads. and if al davis is right about wanting to win he will go after bill parcells to help clean this mess up next year. there is talk the tuna may want to leave the new hollywood down there in miami with all of these celebrity owners now. if thats true al better go get him.
October 25th, 2009 at 10:03 pm
We had a meeting at work last week with a power point projector. I was looking at that thing thinking, Al Davis can’t afford that? Really? How expensive can it be? This man is lost.
October 25th, 2009 at 10:04 pm
Priest, Oakglenn and all other supposedly optimistic lovers of Al Davis are the reason 39,354 show up to the game, I wish only 10,000 ppl show up the next game, Al will understand that the fans bail out on him except Priest and Oakglenn who think they are so smart and predict a win every week when its clear Jamarcus is the worst QB in the history of the game. Worst than Ryan Leaf. I will take Alex Smith head to head trade with JR, I wish he gets injured and retires. This team will never win as long as there are Al Davis fan’s rooting for him and an old man who doesnt know crap about 2009 NFL.
October 25th, 2009 at 10:05 pm
both cable and #2 is killin this team especially #2. cable needs to realize that he has a running team and u dont give up on the run so fast. he also needs to get a feel for situational runs. whats sad is that #2 should be at the point where he is trusted to pass more and he isnt. why are we starting 2 rookie wrs? we made no effort to bring in a veteran like harrison or even toomer but we commit to watkins? davis has poorly managed the handling of russells developement along with #2 himself. hackett shouldve been here in 07. we need a proven wr coach and that run d wont get better until we get a better dt mlb slb. to expect better with what hasnt worked for several years now is foolish. we dont have guys who just bring it at those positions.
October 25th, 2009 at 10:06 pm
Fire Cable, or keep him as an oline coach- assistant.
October 25th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
That was NOT professional football out there today. There is no other way to say it. The Jets aren’t even that good a team. The Raiders are NOT a professional quality football team.
October 25th, 2009 at 10:08 pm
I always love the fact that when the Raiders lose, it is somehow my fault. Some of you need to check yourselves into a hospital. Seriously.
October 25th, 2009 at 10:08 pm
ldynblack,
Gruden would demand a king’s ransom. Gruden would make sure there’s language in the contract guaranteeing him his full contract compensation, the definition of “cause” would have to be behavior specific, and it would have to be limited to things like getting arrested, or not showing up for a week, etc. Gruden might come here, but it wouldn’t be cheap. I don’t see it happening.
October 25th, 2009 at 10:10 pm
# Darth Raider Says:
October 25th, 2009 at 10:01 pm
I cant believe I was considering buying tickets for next weeks game against the dischargers. WTF was I smoking?!?! We need a f*ckin GM!
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Bet the farm on San Diego. If the point spread opens at Raiders +70, take the Dischargers!
October 25th, 2009 at 10:11 pm
This teams need DTs, MLB/SLB, CB, C, RG, and RT.
October 25th, 2009 at 10:11 pm
Can someone explain why are we paying these players top money, those players are:
1)Jamarcus a true bust who needs to be in Alabama.
2)DHB, Crabtree looked like a probowler compared to him who looks like undrafted wrs.
3)Bush all hype no muscle no speed no IQ mind.
4)Mcfumble should watch Felix Jones run and learn.
5)OL all bums including Henderson can’t open a hole.
6)Warren talks more than plays.
7)Kelly whats the use of all that body to get pushed from the line of scrimmage.
8)LBs do you guys know how to tackle?
9)Chris Johnson a 5.5 runner or 4.4? Every week gets burned.
10)Safeties, Mike Mitchell where is your youtube contract? Huff go an sell other stuff.
October 25th, 2009 at 10:13 pm
Armond, quit looking for people to blame other than Al, idiot.
October 25th, 2009 at 10:13 pm
Until Al Davis realizes that offensive line is the most important positon on the football field, we will continue to suck. Who drafts McFumble over Clady??? Even John Madden said the Raiders need to draft offensive linemen. How about listening to John Madden, Al?
October 25th, 2009 at 10:13 pm
If I know Al like I think I know Al, he is in talks with the Eagles about trading for Michael Vick. I dont care about his off the field problems, we need him and we need him bad. Send them whomever they want.
October 25th, 2009 at 10:16 pm
#2 has no pride to perfect his craft. to see him regress like this is pathetic. he isnt accountable for what he does at all.it is your fault for under/overthrowing wrs. who does he blame for missing murphy for a td last week? he comes into camp out of shape shows a lack of leadership and selfishness. he HAS demoralized this team and it shows. they have no confidence in this guy and pretty soon it will get ugly. too many guys want to win and he better step it up or somebody gon willie beamon his ass in the shower like ll did jamie fox on any given sunday. the season is over until they prove its not and #2 should have to fight to get his job back for the rest of his career. i would have him split 1rst team reps with grad or frye or look to bring some1else in. and next year u have to get a veteran qb and draft a guy next year. we need a brady to our bledsoe. hell the chargers got rivers even tho they had brees locked up. brees got his act together afterwards. i hate to say it but #2 did this 2himself as much as they have.
October 25th, 2009 at 10:16 pm
# Richochet Says:
October 25th, 2009 at 10:17 pm
Hey, Alex Smith looked damn good today. Less than a half of play, and 3 td’s? 15 of 22 for 206? If not for a bobbled punt in the sun, Smith would have been the hero of the day.
Well..him and some brand new guy who, in his first game in the NFL caught 5 passes for 56 yds…
Who was that guy?
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And They still lost. And Smith posted those numbers after the other team walked off the field. When Smith really needed to make a play, he got picked. Figures you would say something stupid. Stupid.
October 25th, 2009 at 10:17 pm
Hey, Alex Smith looked damn good today. Less than a half of play, and 3 td’s? 15 of 22 for 206? If not for a bobbled punt in the sun, Smith would have been the hero of the day.
Well..him and some brand new guy who, in his first game in the NFL caught 5 passes for 56 yds…
Who was that guy?
October 25th, 2009 at 10:21 pm
LOL. I knew Oakglenn was going to pop up and talk Niners….
October 25th, 2009 at 10:27 pm
KEYS TO VICTORY FOR DUMMIES
PLAY YOUTUBE BOY SS AND SWITCH BRANCH TO FS.
1) FIRE CABLE, HIRE SHANAHAN FOR $7 MILLION A YEAR.
2) AL DAVIS SELLS THE TEAM OR DOESNT MINGLE WITH IT.
3) TRADE JR AND NEXT YEAR 1ST ROUNDER FOR MCNABB.
4) CUT BARNES, PEARS, SIGN JON RUNYAN AND KWAME HARRIS BUT PUT HIM IN RG HOPEFULLY HE BECOMES LIKE GALLERY.
5) BENCH DHB, CUT WALKER AND WATKINS SIGN MATT JONES AND REGGIE WILLIAMS MINIMUM WAGE.
6) SIGN VONNIE HOLLIDAY CUT WARREN OR KELLY, LET DEZ BRYANT GET A CHANCE.
7) SIGN NAPOLEON HARRIS AND SWITCH MORRISON TO SAM.
9) START ROUTT OVER CHRIS BURNED UP JOHNSON.
10) HOPE WE GOT ENOUGH MINIMUM WAGE TO GET THIS DONE AND EAGLES TO TRADE MCNABB WHO CAN BE OUR NEW GANNON, WISHFUL THINKING.
October 25th, 2009 at 10:29 pm
Armond, me butt hurt? Al Davis got smacked like the old woman he is today. I’m not butt hurt about anything. I predicted the Jets would win big, and did they ever. I’m just making fun of you for pretending Al’s not at fault. Your long old diatribes trying to convince us JaMarcus signed himself to the team. F’n moron. Give up.
October 25th, 2009 at 10:29 pm
MR why do idiots like you, fistabrown, and that other troll, rick-ashaw, come here to gloat?? There is something wrong with you. Seriously. There is something mentally wrong with someone who would somehow think that is a worthwhile use of their time.
October 25th, 2009 at 10:32 pm
# Kirk Says:
October 25th, 2009 at 10:13 pm
Until Al Davis realizes that offensive line is the most important positon on the football field, we will continue to suck. Who drafts McFumble over Clady??? Even John Madden said the Raiders need to draft offensive linemen. How about listening to John Madden, Al?
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Exactly. And let’s not forget the defensive line. They got absolutely BLOWN OFF THE BALL TODAY! That was embarrassing! And I mean EMBARASSING.
October 25th, 2009 at 10:33 pm
# Oakglenn Says:
October 25th, 2009 at 10:29 pm
MR why do idiots like you, fistabrown, and that other troll, rick-ashaw, come here to gloat?? There is something wrong with you. Seriously. There is something mentally wrong with someone who would somehow think that is a worthwhile use of their time.
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WHY R U SO DUMB? U NEED TO SHUT DA HELL UP AND STOP COMING WITH YOUR STUPID EXCUSES, THIS TEAM SUCKS CAUSE STUPID PPL LIKE U DONT NOTICE WHAT THE REAL PROBLEM IN THIS, AL DAVIS LET ME SAY IT SLOWLY SINCE U ARE 16 YR OLD KID, A L D A V I S, U NEED TO LEARN HOW TO READ. I AM SICK OF TIRED OF CHUMPS LIKE U AND YOUR BOYFRIEND PRIEST COMING HERE LIKE GURUS WITH THIS POSITIVE ATTITUDE AS IF EVERYTHING IS GOING GOOD. GROW UP KID.
October 25th, 2009 at 10:36 pm
Sure, Oakglenn, and spending your time arguing that the Raiders are better than the Niners (they aren’t, and haven’t been in years) is perfectly healthy. STFU and admit that both you and Al Davis are human wastes of space.
October 25th, 2009 at 10:36 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 25th, 2009 at 10:36 pm
Sure, Oakglenn, and spending your time arguing that the Raiders are better than the Niners (they aren’t, and haven’t been in years) is perfectly healthy. STFU and admit that both you and Al Davis are human wastes of space.
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MR, BRO, I SWEAR HE AINT WORTH YOUR RESPONSE, THIS DUDE COMES IN HERE AND ALL HE DOES IS TALKS FROM U KNOW WHERE, THINKING EVERY WEEK THAT RAIDERS WILL WIN. I THINK HE LACKS THE IQ FOR AN INTELLECTUAL UNDERSTANDING, SIMPLY, HE GOT NO COMMON SENSE TO SEE THE TRUTH.
October 25th, 2009 at 10:41 pm
Oakglenn, as a Raider fan since probably before you were born, let me say that our defensive line is not what’s embarrassing. It’s Al Davis, and the fans who still support him. You guys are the real eye sore, more so than a recyclable D line, that Al put together, btw, will ever be. Stop spinning, you idiot. I’m all over your shyt tonight. Al lost so big today, shills like you should be running for cover like that weirdo AlisGod did. He high tailed it. He’s smart. You’re obviously ready to get our ass kicked. Well, you’ve come to the right place. Because I’m kicking some serious Al Davis ass tonight, and anyone who supports him.
October 25th, 2009 at 10:43 pm
# Oakglenn Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 9:55 pm
Every game to me at least is a winnable game. SD, KC, Cinn, Wash, in Dallas, in Cleveland, Baltimore are all winnable games. The only really tough games to me right now, are in Pitt and in Denver. Now, things change during the course of the year, with teams playing well, injuries, guys emerging. But you want an answer: We run the table or at least win 8-9 of our last 10. How’s that for a prediction??
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MR, I STILL REMEMBER THAT NIGHT THIS IDIOT OAKGLENN PREDICTED 8-9 WINS, I LAUGHED AND PLAYED ALONG JUST TO SEE HOW DUMB THIS GUY IS, EVERY GAME IS WINNABLE, HOW ABOUT 38-0? HOW WINNABLE IS THAT U MORON? AL DAVIS IS MAKING MONEY FROM DUMB GUYS LIKE HIM AND PRIEST. YEAH WHAT DO U PREDICT NOW OAKGLENN?
October 25th, 2009 at 10:46 pm
This team simply does not even remotely look like a professional football team.
October 25th, 2009 at 10:49 pm
I really don’t even know what to say. There’s no sense pinpointing one scapegoat. Russell? Did the offense fare any better under Gradkowski. The o-line? Seemed reasonably good enough. The D? They were in a huge hole early with the turnovers and were on the field all day because of the offense’s struggles. Cable? I’ve been on his case a lot but deep down I know he’s not THAT bad. There have been a lot of losses like this before he took over too. Al Davis? He’s the common denominator but I don’t think he’s really to blame for the 4 blowout losses. There’s more talent than that on this team to be getting killed almost every week.
Look at the Chiefs. Ton of high draft picks. New coach who everyone thinks will instill discipline and turn things around. QB who looked very good in going 11-5 last year. And they get crushed again this week. Can you pinpoint one or two guys there who are the reason the Chiefs blow? Don’t think so. Same with the Raiders. Trot out your scapegoats if you like, but it’s much more systemic and widespread a problem than anyone is willing to admit or knows how to instantly fix.
October 25th, 2009 at 10:49 pm
DAVIS NEEDS TO GO… END OF STORY! ! ! ! ! !
October 25th, 2009 at 10:55 pm
aww mr did u tell on me? come on jerry why is my comment awaiting moderation? i was just getting started rippin on this mr fellow.
October 25th, 2009 at 11:00 pm
chris there is more talent than that but we come out unprepared and are too up and down with our intensity. cable has way too many blowout losses. if this keeps up u cannot bring him back next year. this team has no fight in them and we are soft at positions u cant afford to be soft at. oline dline lb. we get no consistant push on either side of the ball and caveman cable refuses to stick with the running game. u see how the jets would run the ball 5 straight times when they got in a rhythmn? we do it twice and thats it. we come out passing 3-4 downs and continue to even in short yardage on 2nd down.
October 25th, 2009 at 11:14 pm
Oakglenn Says:
October 25th, 2009 at 10:16 pm
# Richochet Says:
October 25th, 2009 at 10:17 pm
Hey, Alex Smith looked damn good today. Less than a half of play, and 3 td’s? 15 of 22 for 206? If not for a bobbled punt in the sun, Smith would have been the hero of the day.
Well..him and some brand new guy who, in his first game in the NFL caught 5 passes for 56 yds…
Who was that guy?
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And They still lost. And Smith posted those numbers after the other team walked off the field. When Smith really needed to make a play, he got picked. Figures you would say something stupid. Stupid.
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Do you REALLY want me to start on you? lol…geez..you’re like the little dopey kid in the neighborhood that no one plays with. You show up, all snotnosed. You know you’re going to get kicked in the ass, but you still show. Get kicked..then sit on the side, whining..still wanting attention, albeit negative.
*sigh*..ok..numbnuts..why not.
“other team walked off the field?” NINERS HAD A CHANCE TO WIN IT ON THE LAST PLAY, you stupid fool. What you’re referring to is when the whole Jets team took an early shower..somewhere in the middle of the 2nd QUARTER…no dumbass..Niners came back.
Now..uh…numbers? Sure..Smith? ending qb rating was 94. Take away the 4th and long, last second toss that was picked, and his qb rating was 114..yeah, fool..most would call that a good game.
Russell?? qb rating was 31.06.
THIRTY ONE POINT OH SIX.
Question is…do you feel as stupid as you look?
Is that possible?
October 25th, 2009 at 11:16 pm
armond Says:
October 25th, 2009 at 10:55 pm
aww mr did u tell on me? come on jerry why is my comment awaiting moderation? i was just getting started rippin on this mr fellow.
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Means you put in a word “frowned upon”, and the filter nabbed your post.
Just change the word, and repost.
October 25th, 2009 at 11:17 pm
Tomycar Says:
October 25th, 2009 at 10:49 pm
DAVIS NEEDS TO GO… END OF STORY! ! ! ! ! !
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Might you be the Tomycar from BR?
October 25th, 2009 at 11:28 pm
armond Says:
October 25th, 2009 at 11:00 pm
chris there is more talent than that but we come out unprepared and are too up and down with our intensity. cable has way too many blowout losses. if this keeps up u cannot bring him back next year. this team has no fight in them and we are soft at positions u cant afford to be soft at. oline dline lb. we get no consistant push on either side of the ball and caveman cable refuses to stick with the running game. u see how the jets would run the ball 5 straight times when they got in a rhythmn? we do it twice and thats it. we come out passing 3-4 downs and continue to even in short yardage on 2nd down.
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This is my point though. It’s a dozen different things that aren’t clicking. It’s a fair point about running the ball but in the NFL you really need to pass. When you’re up 30 points you can run it again and again and again.
I forget who said it, but some wise football man once said something to the effect of you can’t have each guy screwing up one play a game. If you do, you’ve got 53 plays that were screwed up. That’s what this Raider team is right now. Somebody different screwing up every play. JaMarcus throwing ridiculous passes. A WR dropping a pass. An o-lineman whiffing on a block. A linebacker getting out of position on a big run. It’s just somebody different screwing up almost every play. And honestly I don’t know how you fix something like that. You really need to look at every single player and every single coach and be honest about them and ask yourself “can this guy get it done CONSISTENTLY?”
October 25th, 2009 at 11:31 pm
so… the worst team in football is Oakland?
October 25th, 2009 at 11:35 pm
?
Ok… I guess I’d rather be 0-6 with Tennessee’s franchise – at least we won’t be completely pathetic for 6+ seasons……………
October 25th, 2009 at 11:49 pm
Got my halloween costume picked out for this year…
# 12…The invisible man.
October 25th, 2009 at 11:51 pm
As hard as it is im going to try to stay positive. Besides the horrible endzone drop it was nice to get something out of DHB I think everyone is too quick to label him. He could visibly be seen getting frustrated/pumped before the snap so hes got some fire in him. When a qb can actually throw the the recievers DHB and Murphy had some catches. Fargas was running hard and well, I just wish we ran some more. He should start. period. Huff was actually making open field tackles which is a big change from last year. And although cable abandoned the run too quick he showed some balls in benching russle.
hopefully we can play the dischargers as well as we did week 1
October 25th, 2009 at 11:55 pm
Or is it Edward Scissor hands?
October 26th, 2009 at 12:15 am
raidergo i saw heybey pumpin his arms up alot like he was demanding he get the ball.he shouldve had his first td but just dropped it after he looked to have secured it going down. he wants to make plays badly. chris ny u are right about all of what u said its bigger than #2. we have 2 realize if this continues u cannot bring cable back which means u have to bring in somebody who has some credentials. that means its back to square 1 all over again. the offense we need to run is the one in san diego or pittsburg. whatever happens they have to get this fixed in a hurry.
October 26th, 2009 at 12:16 am
I just read an ESPN article about WR Murphy putting in the extra time to improve his game, and DHB did not.
DHB may put on the theatrics, and give the impression of wanting the ball, but I think he wants none of the pressure of being in the lime light. When the ball is in the air, he’ll find some way of not coming up with the catch.
After he missed that TD fade he turned and bitched to the ref about interference. He was the one to blame for it. In truth, he’s not a primetime player.
And he probably never will be.
October 26th, 2009 at 12:32 am
Wow what can be said, I think Gradowski did his best on what he had to deal with, game was already over after he tookover, But overall thus team is like a high school team. I think the key of it all is that we didn’t have our beat player on the field, PIGEON y didn’t cable start him? Jamarcus needs a beat down I found it amuzing to see him in the sidelines cracking jokes, then he was next to asomugha n hecwas just getting ignored, Cable can’t coach bad playcalling , lol to all the morons who spent their $$$ on that waste if a team, like I said boycott this team, I didn’t see nor listen to the game, I hope some of you start standing up like me and boycott, please let’s stand together
October 26th, 2009 at 1:06 am
What a pathetically predictable outcome huh?? Thats been the trend the past 6 pathetic freakin years!!
They take a step forward and 3 steps back!??!!
Freakin joke!
When is the stubborn old man Al going to get the freakin message that he needs to hire a REAL GM and football operations man who can hire a REAL HC…who will discipline this players and hold them accountable and who is a TRUE offensive play caller!
Al Davis has RUINED this freakin franchise…..the signs were all there during draft day when moron should have drafted Monroe or Crabtree and instead reaches and decides to pay a low end 1st rounder top 10 money??!! For what??
If the old man had a hard on for DHB, then he should have made the SMART AND WISE move and traded the heck DOWN!!
It all starts at the top and trickles down to the field.
Al Davis…..please go away!!
October 26th, 2009 at 1:11 am
# raiderdav Says:
October 26th, 2009 at 12:32 am
Wow what can be said, I think Gradowski did his best on what he had to deal with, game was already over after he tookover, But overall thus team is like a high school team. I think the key of it all is that we didn’t have our beat player on the field, PIGEON y didn’t cable start him? Jamarcus needs a beat down I found it amuzing to see him in the sidelines cracking jokes, then he was next to asomugha n hecwas just getting ignored, Cable can’t coach bad playcalling , lol to all the morons who spent their $$$ on that waste if a team, like I said boycott this team, I didn’t see nor listen to the game, I hope some of you start standing up like me and boycott, please let’s stand together
^^^^^^^I didn’t see or listen to that joke of a game either until I saw the score the predictable score at halftime!!
I’m telling the rest of Raider Nation to also stop wasting your time, money and energy on this crap product! it’s the only the old man Al will get the message!
I also ask that you guys call into local Raider talk shows and demand Al Davis step down as GM/PERSONNEL MAN/FOOTBALL OPERATIONS MAN/HEAD OF SCOUTING/WANNABE HEAD COACH/EMPEROR from Star Wars.
The culture of losing he has created is UNACCEPTBALE!
It all starts at the top and trickles down to what happens or should I say DOESN’T happen on the field.
October 26th, 2009 at 1:12 am
Armond didn’t get moderated. He’s just using that as an excuse to wuss out. He knows all he has to do is change up a couple of words. He never posted a comeback. Doesn’t have one. That’s because there’s not one in existence. He knows he was trying to distract us from Al’s blame. He knows he’s a shill. He knows Al Davis sucks.
October 26th, 2009 at 1:17 am
# armond Says:
October 25th, 2009 at 11:00 pm
chris there is more talent than that but we come out unprepared and are too up and down with our intensity. cable has way too many blowout losses. if this keeps up u cannot bring him back next year. this team has no fight in them and we are soft at positions u cant afford to be soft at.
^^^^^^This team does NOT have as much “talent” as some people like us to think they do.
If they had sooooooo much talent crap like today would not happen.
Al Davis needs to freakin go!!
October 26th, 2009 at 1:20 am
Chris in NY Says:
October 25th, 2009 at 10:49 pm
Al Davis? He’s the common denominator but I don’t think he’s really to blame for the 4 blowout losses. There’s more talent than that on this team to be getting killed almost every week.
^^^^^^^^Don’t be freakin delusional…..this MESS is Al Davis’ creation!
He makes the decisions and he hires coaches and he makes the LOUSY draft picks and he makes the LOUSY football decisions!
It’s ALL Al Davis’ fault!
That’s the bottom line!
October 26th, 2009 at 1:25 am
stat of the day: we ran the ball 19 times..16 to our running backs. Other 3 were QB.
We had some huge run plays. They were giving us the run. And we call 16 running plays. 16.
I told you guys all summer long we would not run the football. You shills insisted I was wrong, threw every bit of half ass logic you could to refute my prediction, and here you are, in the middle of the street with your thumbs of your collective ass. Brien was one of the people insisting we’d pound the rock. As expected, he’s hiding tonight, too. The Davis loyals are by far the dumbest fans in all of sports. Pat yourselves on the back. Or, more like, shoot yourselves.
October 26th, 2009 at 1:27 am
Al Davis sucks. The Raiders suck. Believers in Al suck. Goodnight. Can’t wait to see your guys’ spin tomorrow.
October 26th, 2009 at 1:31 am
Good night guys, I m out since oakglenn n his bf priest ain’t responding to their earlier predictions, hopefully they never show up again everyone is sick n tired of them defending an arrogant owner.
October 26th, 2009 at 1:34 am
# Darth Raider Says:
October 25th, 2009 at 10:13 pm
If I know Al like I think I know Al, he is in talks with the Eagles about trading for Michael Vick. I dont care about his off the field problems, we need him and we need him bad. Send them whomever they want.
^^^^^^I would give the Eagles a 4th rounder in a heartbeat for Vick!!
It still wouldn’t matter this year….but he would be better than what we have now at the QB position for DAMN sure!
What this team REALLY needs is a new OWNER and NEW direction to cast away this culture of LOSING that Al Davis has created since he got rid of Gruden…..like an IDIOT!
October 26th, 2009 at 1:37 am
Al Davis has RUINED this freakin franchise…..the signs were all there during draft day when moron should have drafted Monroe or Crabtree and instead reaches and decides to pay a low end 1st rounder top 10 money??!! For what??
If the old man had a hard on for DHB, then he should have made the SMART AND WISE move and traded the heck DOWN!!
It all starts at the top and trickles down to the field.
Al Davis…..please go away!!!!
October 26th, 2009 at 1:43 am
TRADE for VICK Moron Al Davis…..make that your last move for this franchise before you do the freakin honorable and smart thing and let go of making the day to day football decisions and personnel decisions and the end of this LOUSY season!!
Vick would be cheap and he is better than any other QB on this roster and he will be hungry to prove himself!
October 26th, 2009 at 2:30 am
Crabtree has good hands and runs good routes.
October 26th, 2009 at 3:04 am
Don’t bench JaMarcus. Gradowsky sucks. Let JaMarcus finish what he started. Maybe he’ll get embarassed enough to get better.
October 26th, 2009 at 3:29 am
Russell knows he will be here longer than Cable so what does he care, wow how can the Bay Area have such garbage qb 2 overall 1 bust Russell,Smith and 2 nobodys hill,grabowsky hell with it just run the ball 60+ times run fargas at qb at least he cares.
October 26th, 2009 at 3:58 am
Close down shop. If they don’t weant to play, don’t take the field.
Seems like Hanson’s the smartest one. Least he’s smart enough to stay home and collect his pay.
These fools shouldn’t even show up. what an embarrassment to football, to themselves and to the poor fans who have to put up with this and the abuse that follows.
October 26th, 2009 at 4:13 am
the best comment i have read:
Jamarcus Russell sucks the life out of this team.
October 26th, 2009 at 4:21 am
ABS sucks. The o-line gave up after the first fumble.
October 26th, 2009 at 4:22 am
CBS not abs
October 26th, 2009 at 4:34 am
I arrived at Dulles this morning from Kuwait after making my bank in Iraq for the last eight months. Only to find out that last weeks win was indeed a matter of the Eagles laying an egg.
After picking up the USA Today the first thought that came to mind was: The Eagles lost to this team? Really?
My God what a pathetic pile of crap this team has become. What even worse, the team I’m supporting this season out of protest, the Vikings, lost; leaving me no joy this morning when reading the paper.
I hear the Saints are six and 0 and since I’m a USC fan I think I’ll wear their colors since Reggie Bush plays for them.
Now I know some of you homers will blow a gasket, thinking my behavior is shameful. IMHO what’s more shameful is the fans that keep supporting this joke of an NFL franchise, and keep the joke alive everytime they buy a ticket or a jersey or watch a game.
It’s time you all took the blue pill, woke up and realized, you’re cheering for guys making millions of dollars, who have no sense of the history of this team from 20-30 years ago and really don’t care that you’ve been to every game since the 80’s. Essentially, you are cheering for the color of uniform, because that’s all that’s left, there’s nothing to these colors anymore other than a distant memory of the way it used to be.
There’s no excellence, it’s all an illusion, and the fools that believe it’s anymore than that provide the entertainment lost for when the team actually was worth a crap.
So bring it on rico-shart and UP engineer, explain why it’s so great to be a Raider fan.
Tools!
October 26th, 2009 at 4:39 am
“So bring it on rico-shart and UP engineer, explain why it’s so great to be a Raider fan. ”
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Because of the never ending faith of their “fans”.
See you next season. Raider Nation Forever!
October 26th, 2009 at 4:47 am
I guess its time for Oakland to start thinking about the next head coach and the draft again
Its sad but probably reality
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True. But there needs to be a revamping of scouting, a new attitude. They must overcome their “resignation” when they fall behind. Too often they have to fight out of a hole. They must re-evaluate what theyre going to do with JaMarcus in the offseason. One thing is certain, they should build on the defense. Ndamukong Suh , Terrence Cody and possibly Gerald McCoy would be great additions as would FS Eric Berry.
October 26th, 2009 at 4:58 am
# steveandblack Says:
October 25th, 2009 at 11:31 pm
so… the worst team in football is Oakland?
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No. But it is the most dysfunctional over the 6-7 year period of time (since the SB) and worst front office…although KC’s arrogance of Pioli and Haley are starting to reveal that even a “rebuilt” front office with the “right” pieces cannot turn it around in a season.
October 26th, 2009 at 5:03 am
Richochet Says:
October 25th, 2009 at 11:14 pm
“other team walked off the field?” NINERS HAD A CHANCE TO WIN IT ON THE LAST PLAY, you stupid fool. What you’re referring to is when the whole Jets team took an early shower..somewhere in the middle of the 2nd QUARTER…no dumbass..Niners came back.
Now..uh…numbers? Sure..Smith? ending qb rating was 94. Take away the 4th and long, last second toss that was picked, and his qb rating was 114..yeah, fool..most would call that a good game.
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other than a 7-9 record. Alex Smith has as many rings as JaMarcus Russell has.
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Thank you and drive home safely…
October 26th, 2009 at 5:05 am
We need a GM who has a young, innovative head coach in mind, that will hire a whole new staff and re-evaluate every single piece of “talent” we have on this team.
And then, after discarding useless pieces, let them go into next year’s draft and get the guys they want and need.
I’d be willing to bet it would be O-line and D-line with a sprinkling of LBer.
October 26th, 2009 at 5:09 am
i think the last thing we need is a young innovative head coach…
we need a head coach with whom there is no doubt who is in charge…
right now, bringing back Jon Gruden is probably the best answer…
clearly he would have the respect of the players… he has other intangibles that would give him instant credibility…
i’m no fan of Jon Gruden… but time heals wounds… and now might be the best time to bring him back…
October 26th, 2009 at 5:10 am
Random Drug Tester Says:
October 26th, 2009 at 5:05 am
We need a GM who has a young, innovative head coach in
mind, that will hire a whole new staff and re-evaluate every single piece of “talent” we have on this team.
And then, after discarding useless pieces, let them go into next year’s draft and get the guys they want and need.
I’d be willing to bet it would be O-line and D-line with a sprinkling of LBer.
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How about Brian Schottenheimer?
October 26th, 2009 at 5:26 am
Florida Pete Says:
October 26th, 2009 at 5:09 am
i think the last thing we need is a young innovative head coach…
we need a head coach with whom there is no doubt who is in charge…
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I think if a real GM is in position, and brings in “his guy”…there will be no doubt who is in charge.
Besides, the guys that try to work around the coach will be gone already.
October 26th, 2009 at 5:36 am
There is something REALLY fishy here!
When I look at the guys we have, it doesn’t seem like they are so bad on paper. Yet even the good players we have start regressing and go into the tank.
Something is wrong with this team, and it is not limited to the current roster or coaches. No matter what we do, we are the same. The same mistakes, the same lack of energy and intelligence.
How can a team that changes coaches and personnel every year play EXACTLY the same?
October 26th, 2009 at 5:38 am
Random Drug Tester Says:
October 26th, 2009 at 5:26 am
Florida Pete Says:
October 26th, 2009 at 5:09 am
i think the last thing we need is a young innovative head coach…
we need a head coach with whom there is no doubt who is in charge…
You
do 
His name is al davis 
October 26th, 2009 at 5:45 am
If you look at our front 4, “Elis, Warren, Kelly and Seymour” they are not a bottom of the league lineup. Yet they get torched for 3 bills on the ground.
Kirk and Howard are not lousy. They were touted as up and coming guys who were on their way to the pro-bowl 2 years ago. What happened?
Branch is an upgrade at SS from last year. Why can’t we stop the run?
October 26th, 2009 at 5:49 am
I was watching a couple of the other games yesterday.
I think a lot of the other teams are performing run blitzing and getting penetration, and reading the plays. We never penetrate and don’t read any plays. We stay back on our heals and wait to be run over. Read and react defense sucks. ATTACK!
October 26th, 2009 at 5:50 am
# Copenhagen_Fan Says:
October 26th, 2009 at 5:45 am
If you look at our front 4, “Elis, Warren, Kelly and Seymour” they are not a bottom of the league lineup. Yet they get torched for 3 bills on the ground.
Kirk and Howard are not lousy. They were touted as up and coming guys who were on their way to the pro-bowl 2 years ago. What happened?
Branch is an upgrade at SS from last year. Why can’t we stop the run?
Because they
are on the field too long 
October 26th, 2009 at 5:58 am
We the Raider Nation are also dysfunctional after all the garbage we’ve had to endure.
Listen to yourselves. We’ve got MaddenRaider dogging us out, (I assume as a way to suppress the deep pain of losing) and we have other guys in denial, along with a bunch of dudes toking it up and popping Norcos and wine. We’ve got rakoshuck stiring up the dirt with a internet attention addiction, and we’ve got a bunch of dudes who are just plain mean spirited and angry.
We need help.
We’ve got the “grand wizard of fool” Al Davis leading us to dementia.
October 26th, 2009 at 6:07 am
Stopping the run is attitude – it’s a “want to”. After 21-0 was the score, the Raider D lost their “want to”.
Fargas is proven on the field that he is the best back we have on the team.
Put Jano back their for kick off returns. He would at least knock the snot out of some DB, and probably average as many yards per return. Holland probably wouldn’t be on anyone elses practice squad.
Where is the “talent” on this team? Peeks of it one week, next couple of games we don’t see it. Perhaps an injection of FOOTBALL talent is needed. I am beginning to think that way.
Jets O-line was what the Raiders once were – maulers. We got out-Raidered yesterday, period.
And why is it that every game, there is a revenge factor to it? Callahan was last week. Norv will be this week. Rob Ryan will be the Cleveland game. ETC. Can’t we ever be on the other side of that coin!?!?!?!? No, we need a Giant’s LBer to give the team an emotional boost to play like an NFL team, otherwise, we are flatter than a pancake.
October 26th, 2009 at 6:14 am
We have no IDENTITY
October 26th, 2009 at 6:18 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S,AS SOMEONE POSTED YESTERDAY VERY TIMELY,THE RAIDER’S HAVE REACHED BOTTOM AND STARTED DIGGING..IT HURT’S AND IS SAD TO WATCH.
October 26th, 2009 at 6:18 am
Good Morning NATION…
WOW…I’ve been watching this team for 45 years.Many ups and downs but mostly ups.I have NEVER seen a team fielded like this one.Millionaire spoiled athletes who come into camp NOT mentally prepared.Used 2B players stayed in shape ALL year round,not be lazy during the off-season and try 2 get it together in camp.It seems,like most say,Oakland is just a place 2 pick up a PHAT paycheck.Man playing 4 the Raiders used to mean win or lose we are gonna punch you in the mouth all day and have your respect.NOT ANYMORE.Fukk respect…I got mine.I just CANT imagine how Big Al feels right now.He spends MULI-Millions on players and it is just not working out.Its not from the lack of trying on his part…He puts his money where his mouth is.For ANYONE 2 say this is Big AL’s fault,they need 2 rethink that,every one makes mistakes on draft day or a free agent signing.But there is something else…something where 53 guys dont understand the basic concept of TEAM.The right hand dosent know what the left hand is doing.No one is on the same page.Maybe get blown out 1 time during a season every team goes through that.Not get blown out week after week.And it is NOT because we didnt draft big uglies on the O-line.Denver has had 1 of the smallest o-lines in recent years but you could unplug any running back and plug in another one and they still get 1000 yard runners.But what works for 1 org. dosent mean will work 4 others.Big uglies would help us tho,imo.Some in here have used the word “DYSFUNCTIONAL”,I was hoping this team could build after a win like last week,like young functional teams will.My BELOVED RAIDERS have not been able 2do this.I am HEART-BROKEN.I have NEVER in 45 years felt as bad as I do right now.NEVER.IT’s like we CANT get better,no matter what we do.I would sell my soul right now 4 the answer to our problems.AND it is NOT just 1 thing.DYSFUNCTIONAL…Gawd I hate that word.We are lost in the desolation of DYSFUNCTION.Like I said I am HEART-BROKEN, and yes grown men cry.I am sick 2 my stomach at what we are living with.I am sorry this is so long…I am at a loss here.We need a spark and it is pouring on us.We need serious answers 2 serious questions.I know we will get through this but right now all the great years and the great reputation of our great org. mean NOTHING.Top 2 bottom we gotta start ALL OVER AGAIN
October 26th, 2009 at 6:20 am
The crowd was actually cheering yesterday when the #2 turned upside down and came out #5. The people on ESPN, or NFL.com, or whatever it was…maybe Comcast, who knows…said that they didn’t think that Russell would start this coming week in SD. But…low and behold…guess who’s starting?
It was funny when Gradowski came into the game, the guy who sits next to me looked at me and asked, “Did Al have a croak up there?” Although Al having a croak wasn’t funny, the reference to Gradowski coming in and Cable benching Russell in the 2nd…everyone knew at that time that Big Al was pissed!!!
October 26th, 2009 at 6:35 am
I FEEL YOUR PAIN 4EVA,ALL DO I THINK.THE FRUSTRATION IS TURNING TO FLAT OUT DISGUST.WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE ?
October 26th, 2009 at 6:38 am
4eva…I feel your pain also. 35 years of following this team (even when I lived in San Diego). My son asked me a month ago why I like the Raiders when they keep losing? I told him that they never used to be that way. I want to be able to show my son the wins, the reason why I loved this team for so long and never will bleed any other color but Silver and Black! Right now, we do need to do what Gannon has said, and that is to blow up the building and start from top to bottom. One day my son will understand why, but when is the real question…
Dirt Lot…the first thing that came to mind when you asked WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE? is the Alan Parsons Project song…”I don’t want to live here no more. i don’t want to stay. Ain’t gonna spend the rest of my life, quietly fading away….”
October 26th, 2009 at 6:38 am
Wished I knew Dirt-Lot.I’m sure everyone has a right answer,and we need all of them
October 26th, 2009 at 6:51 am
Mike Florio during his game blog yesterday:
9:43 pm ET – Who is the biggest draft bust JaMarcus Russell in Oakland or Alex Smith in San Fran?
Russell. Smith at least had a game or two when he wasn’t awful.
October 26th, 2009 at 6:52 am
FUNNY HWNDR,WAS HAVING SAME CONVERSATION WITH GUY NEXT DOOR.STILL THINK THERE IS NO BETTER PLACE 2 B THAN A RAIDER TAILGATE B 4 A PLAYOFF GAME. OR ANY “BIG” GAME. SPEAKING OF THE OLD DAY’S AND QUOTING LYRIC’S–FROM KRIS KRISTOFERSON’S ME AND BOBBY MCGEE ” I’D TRADE ALL MY TOMORROW’S ,FOR ONE SINGLE YESTERDAY”
October 26th, 2009 at 6:53 am
waaah waaah waaahhh!!!Some of you have good suggestions but who knows what our problem is ..I think we need a Coach like Gruden who would get their asses in check ! If I were Al i would dig deep into my pocket and get Gruden back no matter what the price !Look how much he paid for Russell! Who I have not totally lost faith in.Reguardless we could go dig ourselves to China I will be there w/ my chopsicks in hand and yelling GO RAIDERS!!i have too much invested in the Raiders I’d have to have a huge yard sale…We’ll get em next week guys…maybe! Luv My Raider Nation PEACE!
October 26th, 2009 at 7:02 am
WHAT THE HELL.BRING GRUDEN BACK,BUT BAN ALL THOSE SORRY AZZ’D DOLL’S AND MASK’S THAT WILL COME WITH HIM…
October 26th, 2009 at 7:02 am
Sorry dedicated Oakland fans and remember I’m happy if they stay but those 15,000 fans in Halloween disguise as seats will make Al return to L.A. AD is probably talking to Roski and Goodell this morning.
October 26th, 2009 at 7:07 am
Exla…I’m sure that Al would love to move back there, but isn’t it stated that the city of LA does not want the Raiders and Al Davis? Just checking to see if that is right or not…Funny you mentioned the 15,000 fans disguised as seats…that was the worst I have ever seen it. At least last week, the seats on the visitors side right before the Black Hole were filled!
October 26th, 2009 at 7:09 am
In the 19 games Cable has coached, the Raiders have scored one offensive touchdown or fewer in 14 of them.
October 26th, 2009 at 7:17 am
Oakglen, If you were actually at the Raider game you wouldn’t know how the 49er game ended.
Lying fraud!
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# Oakglenn Says:
October 25th, 2009 at 10:16 pm
# Richochet Says:
October 25th, 2009 at 10:17 pm
Hey, Alex Smith looked damn good today. Less than a half of play, and 3 td’s? 15 of 22 for 206? If not for a bobbled punt in the sun, Smith would have been the hero of the day.
Well..him and some brand new guy who, in his first game in the NFL caught 5 passes for 56 yds…
Who was that guy?
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And They still lost. And Smith posted those numbers after the other team walked off the field. When Smith really needed to make a play, he got picked. Figures you would say something stupid. Stupid.
October 26th, 2009 at 7:21 am
RAIDERROCKSTAR ..jesus…don’t do that to me bro! Don’t make me face the fact that this is worse than Marinovich!!!!!!! LOL
October 26th, 2009 at 7:23 am
its about time Russell got pulled. 7-16 as a starter
2 TD’s and a whopping 13 turnovers this year (8 INT’s and 5 lost fumbles).
his overall QB Rating of 66 matches that of one Todd Marinovich … so who is saying he’s not a bust?
October 26th, 2009 at 7:25 am
hwnrdr Says:
October 26th, 2009 at 7:07 am
Exla…I’m sure that Al would love to move back there, but isn’t it stated that the city of LA does not want the Raiders and Al Davis?
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Just the L.A. politicians don’t want him but he will not be dealing with those lying pos’s. When the average L.A. Raider attendance dropped to 40-50,000 a game and the L.A. Coliseum Commission welshed on a deal for Stadium Luxury Suites and boxes agreed to 2 yrs before to keep the Raiders from moving back to Oakland did Al make the move back.
October 26th, 2009 at 7:27 am
The Raiders hit an all-time low yesterday, and that was that the outcome had almost been determined after one play. ONE PLAY!!!!! All week we try to hype ourselves up for the game as fan’s, talk about ways we can win, some of us go to game’s, or buy the NFL package, re-arrange our Sunday plans, comsume food and drink in anticipation of getting 3 solid hours of our favorite entertainment. Yesterday we got literally nothing, it was over before it could start.
People talk about “if only Al would die or sell”, well guess what, with this type of product, new owners might try to distant itself as far away as possible from the “Oakland Raiders”. We have one of the worst teams, but when we are bad like yesterday there is nobody worse, and one of the worst attendance and field combo’s. Being from Northern California, I am starting to seriously worry that this team might become the LA Glitz, or some stupid LA shyt like that (no offense JHILL!), one day. The whole package yesterday was so bad from start to finish, with DHB dropping a TD at the end to a collective laughter from the crowd, that I don’t even know where to go from here.
October 26th, 2009 at 7:31 am
if we beat the dolts next week, Cable will keep his job for the remainder of the season.
If not, we might be trying to lure Jim Fassel away from the UFL…
LOL @ copen. sorry bro. the truth hurts. and Todd wasn’t even drafted 1st overall! and at least he had a drug problem to blame when his career went down the tubes. JaWalrus will probably try to sue Burger King for inventing the angry whopper after he gets axed.
October 26th, 2009 at 7:35 am
Fewer than one touchdown……how many is that???
October 26th, 2009 at 7:35 am
Cable and JaMarcus are clueless and I’m embarrassed by my prediction yesterday of a Raider’s win. I was excited to watch them for about 2 minites and then I realized we were going to get wiped out. We have talent but BAD coaching.
October 26th, 2009 at 7:36 am
If JR had been quoted as saying the 1st thing he did was go to an IN or OUT and having it Monster Style after getting off the plane as Sanchez did, we would be all over him. But with wins go perks and JR deserves all the sh.. he is getting dished. No clue of a pass rush. Maybe the lineman should yell “Watch Out”!
By the way, Sanchez said the reason for the hot dog during the game was a quesy stomach. Should not have had the In and Out. lol
October 26th, 2009 at 7:38 am
2009, is now a complete waste, a total loss of a year. Let’s see:
-Another year, another injury for Darren, and another year where Justin Fargas is our most productive RB.
-Another year, more blackouts, stadium issues, and reports of rumors of the team leaving Oakland.
-Another year where Al Davis does bizarre things, flops at the draft, mingle’s with coaches and allows total chaos in his organization.
-Another year, no progress for Jamarcus. He is no good, no matter how stupid Cable’s play-calling is, you can’t fumble on the first play. You have to be smarter than that. Call it what you want, I don’t know how “smart” Jamarcus is off the field, but on the field, he plays like a complete idiot way too often. He lack’s precision, accuracy, presence in the pocket, and work ethic. Let’s move on.
-Another year we can’t stop the run, have too many penalties, and now we can’t return a punt or kickoff. But our punter is great!!!!! LOL
-Another year, another future off season of craziness. What to do with Jamarcus, Jovan and others, uncapped year, over-spending to bring in talent, and the pending Seymour contract issue, with Al probably franchising him and turning it into a huge mess. All the while, we will probably try to accomplish all this with Cable in limbo as a coach or another new coach, and zero leadership in the organization.
-Another year another top 10 pick in the draft. Dez Bryant anyone?
Feel free to add some others
October 26th, 2009 at 7:39 am
Yup, JaMarcus is a sure fire bust all right.
SO was Andrew Walter….and Tui and Billy Jo Hobert and Todd Marinovich and Beurlein didn’t work out and throw in Mark Wilson for laughs.
In fact, the only solid player the Raiders have developed on their own in the last 25 or so yrs is Nnamdi Asomugha and Shane Lechler.
And Asomugha happens to be a real smart guy and Lechler is a machine.
The Raiders simply got lucky with those two.
The norm is guys like Russell, McFadden, DHB, Huff, Gallery, Fabian Washington, Philip Buchanon and so on.
I accept who this team is and what they are
They may never win for 30 yrs…hell, its been 25 already…sans a brief moment with Gruden..who Davis de facto fired!
October 26th, 2009 at 7:42 am
with the Chiefs, Browns & Redskins left on the schedule we might still have a shot at 5-11.
too bad we still have to play against the Broncos, Bengals, Steelers, Ravens & Cowboys.
wish we could play against the Titans, Rams, Lions, Bucs & Panthers instead …
October 26th, 2009 at 7:42 am
Wow.
October 26th, 2009 at 7:42 am
Someone mentioned to me at the game yesterday that, oh well…there’s always next year…There may not be a next year for me. My neighbor told me when I got home last night that Al was pissed and he’s talking about dumping Cable and Russell. Couldn’t find any source to that one, but as fans…we know all too well that Cable’s job is on the line. But my question to you is….who’s out there that would want to coach here? My gues…No one! So…
October 26th, 2009 at 7:43 am
So here is what you have to do as a Raider fan
1. Except that they will never win as long as Davis is there and just enjoy Sundays with the knowledge that this group of squirrels will occassionally find a nut. (Like last week)….Except the losing and just enjoy the Sunday.
2. Jump ship and follow another more successfull or promising team.
The Raiders are what they are and Al ain’t changing. Sooner or later…when the salary cap gets implemented…the Raiders WILL NOT be able to sign top draft picks unless they reach double digit spots.
No top10 consensus pick is going to risk his career with the Raiders. And I wouldn’t blame them.
Davis hires incompetent coaches (see head coach, WR coach and Special Teams Coach and Hanson) Runs an antiquated system with little schematics and is based on “beating your man” and runs an environment that makes winning impossible.
so either accept it or jump ship. You have no other choice as we have become the new Detroit Lions/ St. Louis-Phoenix Cardinals.
THE WORST FRANCHISE IN SPORTS
October 26th, 2009 at 7:44 am
Oakglenn Says:
October 25th, 2009 at 10:08 pm
I always love the fact that when the Raiders lose, it is somehow my fault. Some of you need to check yourselves into a hospital. Seriously.
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Hey, when the Raiders win ugly, like last week, I take all kinds of schit just because I am skeptical of the meaning/importance of the victory.
Unfortunately, once again I was proven correct, but I am sure if we win against the Browns later this year I will get tons of flack for telling everyone the truth about this schit team and schit coach.
Just comes with the territory Oakglenn.
October 26th, 2009 at 7:44 am
wish we could play against the Titans, Rams, Lions, Bucs & Panthers instead …
Shoot, they may even beat us!
October 26th, 2009 at 7:44 am
S&B!
whats up bro? long time no type …
glad to have you back with the AM crew. your presence was sorely missed
coffee is on me this mornin’
October 26th, 2009 at 7:45 am
Worst regular season loss since 1961….go Cable, you da man!
Can we please get a HC in here that can motivate these “talented” players?
October 26th, 2009 at 7:46 am
too bad the trade deadline has passed. I’d trade Russell for Brady Quinn or Jason Campbell in a heartbeat …
the Pats love to scoop up our trash. Didn’t work out so well with Doug Gabriel, Lamont Jordan, Andrew Walter or Terdell Sands. Burgess has 2 sacks in 7 games for them so far this year. LOL
wish we could have unloaded JaWalrus to back up Brady and got a 4th round pick in return. Tim Tebow might drop to the 4th!
October 26th, 2009 at 7:48 am
Hey SNB:
NEVER will jump ship and I have long accepted the losing! Like someone mentioned earlier that now days, fans go into the stadium expecting to lose. Maybe that’s why everyone gets liquered up and not care. But, back in the days, fans expected to WIN! When that will come back, I don’t know….
October 26th, 2009 at 7:48 am
The 0-7 start to the game isn’t what killed us really. I wasn’t too upset at that point because a young team needs to overcome adversity.
We did march right down the field only to have Russell throw a great pass….to the wrong team.
Marched down the field again looking to cut the lead in half.
Russell threw a great deep ball….to the wrong team.
RRS, you’re right buddy, he needs to sit. Gradkowski isn’t much better and certainly won’t get it done in this offense, he’s a dink and dunker, but Russell has regressed more than any professional athlete I’ve ever seen and he wasn’t very good to begin with.
He’s a bust until proven otherwise.
A lot of talent, has the tools, doesn’t have the QB IQ.
Have him sit behind a veteran (who, I don’t know with this FA group), but to draft another guy and start from scratch again?
Man, what a mess.
Wow.
Best you can hope for is a W against SD and significant improvement heading into the 2010 season.
October 26th, 2009 at 7:49 am
Go Laker’s!
October 26th, 2009 at 7:49 am
Its too bad that there is no financial penalty to the players and owners for fielding a bad product year after year.
Baseball has the best system. If you don’t win…you get no cash
October 26th, 2009 at 7:51 am
I’ll take the smartest QB with a noodle arm at this point.
How bout a WR that can catch the ball?
Maybe an Oline that can block?
Capable head coach?
Who am I kidding?
Defense quit again because offense played horribly. We’re not going to be a ble to hold on to the two of the three best players on defense.
Thanks for the rental, New England. Enjoy the 1st rounder! Anything else we can do for you? Make sure it’s a high pick? Absolutely.
October 26th, 2009 at 7:51 am
Go Lakers indeed exla.
October 26th, 2009 at 7:52 am
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How fast a 40 does Sam Bradford run?
October 26th, 2009 at 7:57 am
RRS, you’re right buddy, he needs to sit. Gradkowski isn’t much better and certainly won’t get it done in this offense, he’s a dink and dunker, but Russell has regressed more than any professional athlete I’ve ever seen and he wasn’t very good to begin with.
He’s a bust until proven otherwise.
A lot of talent, has the tools, doesn’t have the QB IQ.
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LA: I wish I was wrong. It’s hard to watch such a pathetic product on the field. not just Russell – the entire team. Where is Jeff Garcia? he was cheap when we signed him in the offseason. Now he might ask for 5 million. LOL. and Why start Barnes at RT over Langston Walker? Barnes hasn’t played RT since college and that was only sparingly. It showed against Calvin Pace!
October 26th, 2009 at 7:59 am
repost due to word press
we suck, we suck, we suck, but I am a Raider! we suck, we suck, we suck, but I am a Raider! we suck, we suck, we suck, but I am a Raider! we suck, we suck, we suck, but I am a Raider! we suck, we suck, we suck, but I am a Raider! we suck, we suck, we suck, but I am a Raider!
October 26th, 2009 at 7:59 am
The best team in black in the NFL is the Saints.
Like I have said many times before this is just not a good football team from the top to the waterboy. They don’t play together, don’t stick together, the whole organization is a reflection of the leader.
See you guys next year, this year ain’t it! It is painful football to watch.
Go Saints!
October 26th, 2009 at 8:03 am
Fargas/Bush rushed for 92 yards on 16 carries (almost 6 yards per carry). the Jets didn’t have NT Kris Jenkins.
why did Russell & Graddy have 30 pass attempts anyways?
Lechler is the best punter in the league. play the field position game! protect the football!
Jones & Greene combined for 45 rush attempts and Sanchez had 15 throws all game. that should have been our gameplan, especially without Chaz!
not just the players. the playcalling is also to blame for this blowout…
October 26th, 2009 at 8:09 am
Dakota Says:
October 26th, 2009 at 8:11 am
I blame the Napa DA.
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LMAO
October 26th, 2009 at 8:11 am
I blame the Napa DA.
October 26th, 2009 at 8:15 am
Why start Barnes at RT over Langston Walker? Barnes hasn’t played RT since college and that was only sparingly. It showed against Calvin Pace!
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I didn’t understand this at all either.
There are very few positives to take out of this game.
Michael Bush has not showed us much, however he didn’t get much of an opportunity.
DHB made sure it was a shutout.
Murphy dropped another drive-killer.
Russell has no time, a problem which is only magnified by the fact he has no clock – or does but forgets the batteries every other game.
After significant improvement across the board last week, we have backtracked significantly.
Tom Cable has been blown out in half of his games.
The culture has not changed. We need a real coach.
Cowher has been pretty critical of us, as has Tony Dungy. Therefore, I would prefer one of them even over Gruden, because they’d get this team playing.
Al Davis would have to cede control, which ZI think is possible, but not without having the team lose its identity, namely bump and run and the Vertical game.
I think a good coach can maintain the identity of the team and still win.
Can we get a real coach? How ’bout just an offensive coordinator?
The best developer of QBs in the game can’t get ours developed, so that position needs to be addressed as well.
I still contend this D can play with anyone, but the offense needs to sustain drives and put some damn points on the board.
October 26th, 2009 at 8:16 am
Cable is starting to perplex me.
He knows his QB sucks and coughs up the ball like a giant fat cat with a furball. Why doesn’t he RUN the ball and play defense? Even KIFFIN could do that!
October 26th, 2009 at 8:17 am
Forget about Bradford, Al isn’t going to touch a QB in the first round again this lifetime.
Think more along the lines of washed-up free agent QBs…here are the 2010 UFA QBs…read ‘em and weep:
QB Charlie Batch UFA Pittsburgh Steelers Free Agent
QB Kyle Boller UFA St. Louis Rams Free Agent
QB Mark Brunell UFA New Orleans Saints Free Agent
QB Jason Campbell UFA Washington Redskins Free Agent
QB Kellen Clemens UFA New York Jets Free Agent
QB Brodie Croyle UFA Kansas City Chiefs Free Agent
QB Tarvaris Jackson UFA Minnesota Vikings Free Agent
QB Jon Kitna UFA Dallas Cowboys Free Agent
QB Josh McCown UFA Carolina Panthers Free Agent
QB Chris Redman UFA Atlanta Falcons Free Agent
QB Sage Rosenfels UFA Minnesota Vikings Free Agent
QB D.J. Shockley UFA Atlanta Falcons Free Agent
QB Brian St. Pierre UFA Arizona Cardinals Free Agent
QB Charlie Whitehurst UFA San Diego Chargers Free Agent
My money is on Boller because he can throw 60 yards from his knees or some other Al Davis BS measure of talent that doesn’t work……
October 26th, 2009 at 8:19 am
I am starting to agree with many other guys here.
It is more important for Al to have complete control than to win. If he wanted to win, he’d hire a great GM who would then hire a great coach and the coach would be accountable to the GM.
There is no chain of command in Oakland. There is no synergy. Just Al’s old garbage.
October 26th, 2009 at 8:21 am
They made Sanchez look like a hero. He is jumping around dunking on their field goal post, laughing at them. They did not blitz, no presure, nothing. Why not gamble you are getting shut out!
Blame Russel all you want but tell me what was so great about Gradkowski. Besides the fact he was mobile he fumbled the ball away.
The two poisitives I say is that DHB and Murphy will be two good WRs. Maybe not for Oakland but they will be good. They are starting their 1st year with a weak QB, they will grow from it. It is all a matter of time. Stop comparing Crabtree to DHB, SF QBs suck but at least they can make a 10 yard pass.
d@mn I have a love hate relationship with this suck @$$ team!!!
October 26th, 2009 at 8:22 am
I wish I was wrong. It’s hard to watch such a pathetic product on the field. not just Russell – the entire team. Where is Jeff Garcia? he was cheap when we signed him in the offseason. Now he might ask for 5 million. LOL. and Why start Barnes at RT over Langston Walker? Barnes hasn’t played RT since college and that was only sparingly. It showed against Calvin Pace!
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RRS,
I am always SOOOO close to agreeing with you until you throw in the Jeff Garcia’s, Brady Quinn’s, and Jason Campbell’s of the world, lol! Those guys suck too, and I’m tired of watching pathetic QB play. One pathetic guy replacing another pathetic guy does nothing for wins!
Same with these BUM ASS coaches!
Pace did to Barnes what Seymour did to that LT last week on the first play of the game. Barnes was on his back and Pace was all over #2 who was just getting into his 7 step drop, lol!
That one play had everything that wrong with the Raiders wrapped into 1 play.
Bad play call!
Bad Oline execution!
Bad QB execution!
Did I mention the penalty to open the game, lol!
First and foremost, this team is unprepared offensively! From personell, to scheme, to play calling, week to week our guys our outmatched.
Pathetic!
Everyone in the world knows the QB and WR combo in Oakland is a work in progress at best. Is there ONE person in here who would have called a vertical pass play on the FIRST play of the game from our OWN 10yd line?
Vegas is right! The game was over after the first play.
October 26th, 2009 at 8:22 am
Damn, even my FF team got blown away….
October 26th, 2009 at 8:23 am
By thee way I have to admit Crabtree looked better than DHB and Murphy, I will say the QB was putting the ball right on the #s and throwing to spaces. They even gave him a quick WR to get his confidence up. I have been saying that all year. I hate Crabtrees diva attitude but he has the strong hands qucik feet like a boxer like he did at Texas Tech. He is going to be special in this league! Leaps and bounds over DHB and Murphy. Nice catches all hands aginst TX. Lets see what Chaz can do.
We should have cut Watkins and Walker!
Al, Cable, Russel – “The new three stooges”
October 26th, 2009 at 8:25 am
LA to TheBay
Nice assessment Bro!
They are already playing for next year.
October 26th, 2009 at 8:27 am
Copenhagen,
It’s been apparent to me since preseason that Cable wants to unleash JaMarcus Russell. He wants him to let it rip.
Last season, Russell was a game manager, PA QB and fit that roll pretty well. He threw some nice TDs, he turned the ball over very little. 13 TDs 8 INTs. Looked real good down the stretch.
The offseason killed us.
Rather than getting a vetran beastly WR, we draft two rookies. Was all our faith in Chaz Schillens, who hasn’t proved d;ck with all of 15 career catches? Oh wait, we do have a healthy veteran WR.
I knew Al wasn’t thinking playoffs, he was thinking rebuilding season, make progress, let the youngsters learn some football, but he didn’t expect this.
He tells Cable ‘enough babying Russell, he’s here to run my offense so get him passing. We’ve got the some of the fastest WRs in the game. Have go deep and just get behind the coverage.’
Cable is throwing his youngsters to the wolves and you can only hope they grow and learn some good football in some bad football games.
I’ll be interested to see what Cable says in his media session. Will he stick with Russell (will Al make him?) and the youngsters at WR? What about the O Line?
October 26th, 2009 at 8:36 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 26th, 2009 at 8:03 am
Fargas/Bush rushed for 92 yards on 16 carries (almost 6 yards per carry). the Jets didn’t have NT Kris Jenkins.
why did Russell & Graddy have 30 pass attempts anyways?
Lechler is the best punter in the league. play the field position game! protect the football!
Jones & Greene combined for 45 rush attempts and Sanchez had 15 throws all game. that should have been our gameplan, especially without Chaz!
not just the players. the playcalling is also to blame for this blowout…
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Exactly!
I’m waiting for the Cable PC where he steps up and just says he needs to do a better job. Blaming the QB in the media? He did the same BS in the Denver game out our endzone on back to back plays. Lawton dropped the first one and the second was a pick.
Cable gives us no chance to win. I know a lot of our players don’t either, but gawd damn it if we don’t have the worst coach in the league.
October 26th, 2009 at 8:37 am
CJ Legend 34 Says:
October 26th, 2009 at 8:25 am
LA to TheBay
Nice assessment Bro!
They are already playing for next year.
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I think the defense is now collecting a check. The plan offensively now is to just grow.
Al better be looking at this kid Suh (sp?) in Nebraska.
I forget all of our picks but it really should be:
1. DT
2. RT/QB
3. LB/RT
3 (from NE). C
4. RG
5. LB
5 (from NE). DE
6 (from MIA). LB
7. Meanest fooker left.
Deepest draft in a looong time. Need a game manager QB and a brilliant system. Look what McDaniels has done in Denver.
Dakota, besides QB, who are some good 2010 FAs, any position of need?
October 26th, 2009 at 8:38 am
All this JaMarcus talk aside, all the worshipers, please answer me, do you still think Barnes was a great pickup…
I for month said he was a huge liability, and you all ridiculed me, so whats your answer now?..
you know who, im talking to…
October 26th, 2009 at 8:39 am
RRS..
exactly…
but still people here tried to say he was the 2nd coming Art shell, or something, i simply cant take it people and their rose-colored glasses…
October 26th, 2009 at 8:40 am
LMN: Khalif Barnes at RT is like Kwame Harris at LT …
a liability in the zbs!
October 26th, 2009 at 8:43 am
i’m out fellas. work to do
carpe diem!
October 26th, 2009 at 8:47 am
****Not all Russels Fault****
Some of you may hate to here this but if you want to blame Russel for that whole game yesterday, forget about it you can’t. Barnes gets man handled and ran over on the first play from scrimage. If anyone let the team down it was Barnes he played like garbage. Russel is struggling back there and none of his WRs are getting open. When he did make a play they dropped the ball.
The play in the endzone to Watkins. I watched Drew Breeze do the same throw the other day with the Saints. The only diffrence is his WR made a nice adjustment, which they do quite often and battled to get the ball. Watkins is not even asecond string WR on most teams. No lie, I hope for Russel’s sake he looses some weight and he gets traded. No vet WRs, Walker (who knows besides raider maangement, Higgin’s (?). Chaz only had a number of good games last year but I don’t know about calling this guy the next Tim Brown. What happened to the TEs? Non-existent plays to the TEs? No running game, the o-line is terrble man. Sorry Fargas lovers he is tough but an average runner, but the best we have so far.
No need to even talk about the special teams play.
Blame Russel but he is one man. Cable and his crew have no clue when it comes to play calling and our defense gets burned by the run time and time again.
Chris Johnson never looked back once to the QB.
Even the coaches are starting to have success when they leave Oakland.
For all you great “ESPN Trent Dilfer Lovers.” Lets put him behind this train and see what he can do. He would be looking just like Russel and Gradowski right now.”
I think AL has just done to much wrong for this team to have any good come to it man. Maybe Al did make a deal witht he devil and the clocks run out.
Stop looking for one escapegoat this whole team from the top to the bottom is horrible. This is the first Raider game I ever turned off in the middle of the third qtr. I let my wife watch QVC Christmas in HD. She was floored
October 26th, 2009 at 8:49 am
Dakota,
I say go get JP Losman and Rex Grossman. Grossman played in a Super Bowl and may just need a fresh start.
I would be against drafting a QB in any round. The Raiders don’t have the organizational discipline, coaching talent/stability, patience or QB friendly scheme to allow a young QB to develop.
They need to get a veteran who can get up to speed fairly quickly and is hungry for a new opportunity. Someone that can also have the veteran experience to fill the leadership vacuum that the coaches refuse to provide and Davis sabotages.
We will NEVER win a Super Bowl or even make the playoffs again until there is change at the top. But at least a veteran guy like a Jay Schroeder could keep us competitive and get us to a 7-9 type season. At least the season will be interesting until about mid-November / early December as we try to barely compete for a last wild card spot
October 26th, 2009 at 8:51 am
Cable gives us no chance to win. I know a lot of our players don’t either, but gawd damn it if we don’t have the worst coach in the league.
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Trying to fit a square peg in a round hole.
With the current roster, the idea should be run to set up the pass. Call high percentage plays (especially passes) and sustain drives, keep your defense off the field as much as possible and keep them fresh.
Don’t get behind early.
So naturally, he abandons the run (while averaging better than 6/carry) and airs it out.
He wants his young offense to mature and bea able to strike deep from anywhere on the field. The team is not there yet.
I guess Cable is really just trying to grow the youngsters rather than gameplan around the other team and keep in mind the strengths and weaknesses of his own.
After that pick on the Miller drag route, Cable said forget the intermediate, quick passing attack that worked last week, lets just let er rip.
October 26th, 2009 at 8:57 am
LA to TheBay
They don’t call plays that fit into their teams strengths. They try a new scheme every week. It is painful football ( I guess you can call it that) to watch.
Cable is not impressive as a head coach.
How can Denver wipe out there Head Coach, Franchise QB and start over but we have done that for 5 years and can’t get it right. Al does not play the game, he brings in talent but he does hire the coaches and none of the real good coaches with talent want to come to Oakland. So you get the left overs like Cable and Kiffin. I would hate to play on this team.
October 26th, 2009 at 9:01 am
I agree with you. Jay Schroeder was not a great QB he could throw a pick or two but the guy seems great with what is in the NFL right now especially on our team. I think the diffrence though is Jay had a better running game to work with and veteran WRs. If they could not get the ball they made sure the defense did not get the ball neither. Russel has nothing but a TE he can count on and that is when the coaches decide to get him worked in the game.
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SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
October 26th, 2009 at 8:49 am
Dakota,
I say go get JP Losman and Rex Grossman. Grossman played in a Super Bowl and may just need a fresh start.
I would be against drafting a QB in any round. The Raiders don’t have the organizational discipline, coaching talent/stability, patience or QB friendly scheme to allow a young QB to develop.
They need to get a veteran who can get up to speed fairly quickly and is hungry for a new opportunity. Someone that can also have the veteran experience to fill the leadership vacuum that the coaches refuse to provide and Davis sabotages.
We will NEVER win a Super Bowl or even make the playoffs again until there is change at the top. But at least a veteran guy like a Jay Schroeder could keep us competitive and get us to a 7-9 type season. At least the season will be interesting until about mid-November / early December as we try to barely compete for a last wild card spot
October 26th, 2009 at 9:03 am
and to think that there are a half dozen teams with worse W-L records than the Raiders. hard to believe ain’t it?
weren’t no pride, weren’t no poise, weren’t no commitment, weren’t no excellence
a forfeit only goes as a 2-0 loss. looks better statistically.
well ladies and gentlemen, there are many upcoming Sundays this autumn and winter season that appear ripe to do something other than watch or listen to pseudo-football.
my usual approach is oh well, get ‘em next time, next week. don’t see any lotus growing out of this mud.
October 26th, 2009 at 9:03 am
Grossman, Boller, Kitna?????? C’mon man.
October 26th, 2009 at 9:05 am
CJ
You’re right, it was a team effort in losing.
The Russell deep ball to Watkins wasn’t a bad throw or read.
It was single coverage thrown in frotn of the WR, who was in front of the DB. WR didn’t make the adjustment and the DB climbed the ladder. I see where they were going. After gaining some good momentum on a good drive, they wanted to go for broke and make a quick strike.
Cable and or Russell got impatient.
Kiffin tells Russell the first year and a half of his career, don’t turn it over, check down, check down, throw it away.
Cable tells Russell he’ll put some trust in his hands to win some games and Russell comes through.
Now Cable is telling him let er rip, let er rip.
All the while, he’s outta shape and they’re messing with his mechanics.
There needs to be a middle ground.
I want Russell on the roster. I want him developed. I stick by everything I said about him. But I think they need to do with him what they should have done from the start.
Sit and learn. Play when you’re ready.
Kiffin tried. Too bad it was Culpepper and McCown.
October 26th, 2009 at 9:06 am
MY TAKE!
First off, Dakota BLAST AWAY!!!!
I started watching Raider games with my father since 1968/69 season. I have enjoyed many great and historic afternoon games in the Oakland Coliseum.
I traveled to the LA Coliseum to watch them play, getting up at five in the morning, meeting friends in the parking lot for our tailgate and then watch the game and heading home and arriving at eleven some nights.
When they moved back to Oakland , I was there also with my son, like I was years earlier with my father.
I never would think of leaving any Raider game early, I always believed we could pull out a win.
I finally had enough yesterday, I left at half-time. I could not bare anymore of this uninspired play, and excuse for a football team.
I arrived home at 5:30, leaving the Coliseum at 2:30. I decided to pick up the phone and call in to the post game show on KSFO. After being on hold for 50 minutes, I was able to discuss with Thomas Howard his views on the Raider nightmare yesterday. He mentioned a few times before my call “the team needs to start fast”. My question to him was “what do you mean and what is fast”. His explanation is probably over my head.
I guess what he means is when you receive the opening kickoff, (and Cable should have deferred it to the Jets) was penalized after our normal crappy return by Holland (why is Holland Back there) we should have with the ball sitting on the eleven yard lane ran it out for three plays and punted for the next possession.
Why in the Hell would you throw a pass with a new RT, with Calvin Pace possibly one of the best pass rushers as a LDE, on the first play.
I have tried to give Cable the benefit of the doubt, and slowly have stood by him, I’m starting to rethink this situation more than at any time.
The team from my view point through the binoculars looked defeated when the score reached 14-0. This is the problem, there is no hope for this team when they get behind, just bury them and move on to next week’s game. This team needs character, passion and learn how to fukin tackle.
It’s embarassing to watch the play of this team. Blame Jamarcus all you want, but those 52 other guys need to be held to some high standard also. This team lacks what every worker must do at work in this country, your actions mean something and your work must be satisfactory for others to do their jobs also.
When will the leadership in this locker room, blast Jamarcus and stop babying him and worrying about his ego, fire away and let him know his play and dedication is not acceptable. Families lives and futures are placed on this guys shoulders and he has no idea how much his play will be a dominio effect all the way down the roster.
I want to see just three traits the next 10 weeks. Play hard, be dedicated during the week, have passion during the game, be focused during the week, and leave the field with nothing left in your body. I can live with the losses if they play that way the rest of the year. (also fukin Tackle better)
Let’s hope something happens, we can’t win until we get to that point, it’s not enough to play for each other, how about for your self.
October 26th, 2009 at 9:06 am
CJ Legend,
Its a mess alright. They just need a veteran with some arm strength that can give us a chance to compete. No sideways QBs like Quinn, Garcia or Gradkowski. They won’t work in the vertical offense.
Grossman, Losman, Boller are my top three right now. Maybe get Jon Kitna and try and hire Mike Martz.
I have given up all hope that this team will ever have a winning season in the foreseeable future.
All I want to see is the team compete. Give a little bit of hope. I just want to see a 7-9 type of ball club. That’s all.
The Raiders can’t win with its current philosophy and structure that is espoused by Al Davis.
So let’s just compete. If we can get a real running back…then that might be enough for a Rex Grossman or Kyle Boller to work with.
Won’t set any passing records…and there will be the bonehead INTs…but occassionally the team will win some games and be competitive.
Just Try Baby
October 26th, 2009 at 9:08 am
LA to TheBay Says:
October 26th, 2009 at 8:37 am
Dakota, besides QB, who are some good 2010 FAs, any position of need?
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Here is a link…it is too depressing to go through the list and look at the players who would laugh at signing with us…sorry, but here is the info if you would like to do it…the list isn’t very up to date, as I noticed some of the QBs they have listed have already re-signed:
http://www.kffl.com/static/nfl/features/freeagents/fa.php?option=By+Team&y=2010
October 26th, 2009 at 9:10 am
I would also look to trading for the backup running back in Minnesota. Chester ?????? or possibly the Bell kid out in New Orleans.
Scrap the ZBS and replace the C, RG and RT positions with a bunch of MF’n dogs….
Go get T.O from the Bills or Curtis from the Eagles…..
and just get back to the old ways of bringing in veterans and trying to catch lightning in a bottle.
Al Davis is too incompetent to run a youth movement. Tom Cable is not talented enough to lead them
October 26th, 2009 at 9:12 am
“He was really out of sorts early in the game,” Cable said. “In the first play of the game he could not get the formation lined up the right way, and then they drop into quarters when it should just be a check down to the back, kinda holding it and looking down field and he shouldn’t be there. And then the two interceptions, first one, no reason for that and the second one really just kind of threw it up. So I just did not feel like at that point he gave us the best chance to have the success we needed to have offensively and made the move.”
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When asked if he felt out of sorts Russell replied:
“Actually I wasn’t. The first interception was a matter of a guy coming across my face and getting to the spot. I tried to get it down but it was too late. As far as the second one, I thought I gave the guy a chance to make a play on the ball. As far as what I was seeing. I didn’t see him come down with it. The ball in the air had a 50-50 chance, we just didn’t come up with it.”
October 26th, 2009 at 9:13 am
wishbone Says:
October 26th, 2009 at 9:03 am
Grossman, Boller, Kitna?????? C’mon man.
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Look, they are veterans with experience. And don’t forget about Losman. Cut Gradkowski and Frye and let Grossman, Boller, Losman and Russell compete for the starting job in camp.
If Russell fails in camp…CUT HIM! And make sure he understands that.
The vets I mentioned would be cheap, have experience and could use a fresh start. Hell, it worked for Plunkett.
Wishbone, the Raiders are incapable of developing young talent. Those vets might not get us to a playoff…but at least the team would be able to compete with this antiquated offense we run
October 26th, 2009 at 9:14 am
Taylor
October 26th, 2009 at 9:16 am
We need Chucky back as coach.Hes a raider and the team needs him.Al should have never let him go.We would still have a good team.Al bring him back.
October 26th, 2009 at 9:20 am
Thanks RaiderDell for the read.
‘…goin’ down fast won’t you say a prayer for me.”
from – Got To Get Better In A Little While
October 26th, 2009 at 9:21 am
IF I WERE OFFENSIVE CO-ORDINATOR….
1) Replace 2 RB’s with blockers, we don’t run anyways.
2) Replace 2 WR’s with blockers, they can’t catch and JR can’t find them anyways.
3) Paint the footballs to look like raw chickens.
4) Put an oven behind the other team’s End Zone.
5) Tell Jamarcus he has to put 5 “raw chickens” in the oven behind the End Zone by the end of the game or he doesn’t get any.
Presto! 5 rushing TD’s for Jamarcus Russell per game.
October 26th, 2009 at 9:24 am
Watkins sucks.He couldnt catch a cold.
October 26th, 2009 at 9:24 am
JaMarcus will remain the man
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on October 26, 2009 11:29 AM ET
Raiders coach Tom Cable didn’t even have to be asked the question.
JaMarcus Russell remains Oakland’s starting quarterback, despite getting the hook in Sunday’s 38-0 loss to the Jets. After the game, various players took responsibility for their roles in the worst loss in Raiders history. Except Russell.
“I don’t think it’s me personally, I really don’t,” Russell said after the game. “It’s a bad combination of one guy doesn’t do something right one time. Personally, I don’t think so . . . Do you?”
(Yes, and we also just heard the sound of a thousand Raiders fans screaming.)
Russell also asked said he was happy with all his reads and decisions. JaMarcus turned the ball over three times despite throwing only 11 times, one of them being an inexplicable toss to Jets defender Jim Leonhard with no Raider players nearby.
Russell was booed heavily Sunday, but Raiders fans are speaking loudest with their indifference. The paid attendance for Sunday’s loss was the lowest in Oakland since 1968.
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so my questions are:
how do you train a guy who doesn’t think he needs training???
is there any hope for an employee who thinks he has nothing to learn and that you have no authority over him???
what do you say to an employee who screws up royally and refuses to admit he screwed up???
answers:
you can’t…
no…
you’re fired…
October 26th, 2009 at 9:24 am
SnB—First off Losman, Kitna, Grossman or whoever doesn’t wanna come to this mess. Comparing any of those guys to Plunkett is ridiculous at best. This organization is beyond repair until Al is gone. No decent head coach wants to come here because they know they will only be a puppet. The best thing you & everyone else can do for this team is to not give Al any of your hard earned money. Show Al that we will not put up with this garbage any more. It has been six+ years with many different coaches, assistants and player yet the same result. Nothing will change for the better until Al is gone!!!! If you keep drinking the koolaid you will just keep seeing more of the same.
October 26th, 2009 at 9:25 am
His comments show what is wrong with Russell. A “50-50″ chance is not a good play when you have a good drive going, are in FG range and it is 1st and 10. He did just throw it up, Watkins gave us nothing, but you don’t throw it up when Watkins is matched up with Revis. Revis is a Pro-Bowler and Watkins is lucky he isn’t in the UFL.
The QB’s job is to know the match-ups!!
October 26th, 2009 at 9:31 am
Jim Jones, Adolf Hitler, Saddam Hussain, GW Bush & Al Davis. They all preached the koolaid. Time has come to stand up and say no more. Al Davis will never get another dime from me as long as he is tied to the Raiders. No soup for you!!
October 26th, 2009 at 9:31 am
I believe that Japiewagon’s downfall is his salary, he could retire today and never have to work again, so how is he going to be hungry enough to do the study and work that is needed to be a nfl qb, and very immature, how do you sport all the jewlery, walkin around with a fur coat, and that medalion around his neck, he just aint into football
October 26th, 2009 at 9:32 am
Russell also asked said he was happy with all his reads and decisions. JaMarcus turned the ball over three times despite throwing only 11 times, one of them being an inexplicable toss to Jets defender Jim Leonhard with no Raider players nearby.
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Jamarcus never looked for Miller, he assumed he would be there, he just turned and threw the ball.
What a classic case of OOPPSSSS!!!!!!
October 26th, 2009 at 9:33 am
Russell is practically scoring points for the other team now. Two starts for NY’s offense inside our 5 yard line after turnovers by Russell? Unacceptable!
And at what point does this kid realize that he has to play better? It’s one thing to have your QB playing that bad. It’s another when he actually thinks the offense’s problems have nothing to do with him.
He also has to realize that as a QB, you are supposed to be the leader. That BS about throwing it up to allow the receiver to make the play was just that. BS! You can’t throw your receivers under the bus like that!
October 26th, 2009 at 9:33 am
If ever there was aa time to completely rebuild, it is now.
Extra picks in one of the deepest drafts in years and a number of succesful, proven head coaches.
Al needs to step aside.
We’ll never forget the strides you made Al. We’ll never forget the outcasts and misfits you turned into champions. We’ll always love the Silver & Black and the mystique you brought. We’ll never forget you taking on the league and bashing teams over the head, then blurring right passed them.
The Autumn Wind is a Raider.
October 26th, 2009 at 9:34 am
The Autumn Wind is a pirate
Blustering in from sea
With a rollicking song he sweeps along
Swaggering boisterously
His face is weather beaten
He wears a hooded sash
With his silver hat about his head
And a bristly black moustache
He growls as he storms the country
A villain big and bold
And the trees all shake and quiver and quake
As he robs them of their gold
The Autumn wind is a Raider
Pillaging just for fun
He’ll knock you round and upside down
And laugh when he’s conquered and won
October 26th, 2009 at 9:35 am
cable suck’s really bad. he tried to throw right off the bat knowing who his qb is.
with lechler he should of run the ball and tried to play field position.
the defense they were on the field all day. No wait 6 weeks !! the defense knew that after jamarcuss gave 14 points away they could not win.
our offense cannot score 14 points. so it was already over before it began.
in my opinion we need to get from the center right guard and right tackle replaced in the off season. a veteran quarterback. those are most important.
i believe this defense other than maybe replacing 1 maybe 2 linebackers can win with a decent offense.
OH YEAH AND MOST IMPORTANT OF ALL A NEW HEAD COACH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 26th, 2009 at 9:35 am
ESPN Rumor Insider
JaMarcus Russell’s play seems to be linked to his confidence, and that confidence seems to be linked to the faith that his Oakland Raiders teammates have in him. It’s a circle of trust not unlike the one the Byrnes family has in “Meet the Parents”.
Towards the end of last season — and for one game this season, last week — Russell started playing with some of that confidence, but that feeling has to be gone now after being benched during his team’s 38-0 ownage by the New York Jets. Following the game, Raiders coach Tom Cable stood by Russell as the team’s starter, indicating that his QB was “really out of sorts early in the game.”
Well, that, and also there’s not really a better option on the bench. Bruce Gradkowski also struggled when he was brought in as relief.
So what is the Raiders’ long-term plan with Russell? NFL Insider Adam Schefter might have a clue, based on the growing likelihood of an uncapped year in 2010:
Adam Schefter
Raiders wouldn’t face penalty to dump Russell
“If an uncapped year does in fact come in 2010, the Great Salary Purge could accompany it. Teams would be able to dump bloated contracts they don’t want without suffering the regular salary-cap ramifications. One such candidate could be Oakland quarterback JaMarcus Russell, who is scheduled to count $15 million against the cap for 2010, only $3 million of which is guaranteed. So if the Raiders wanted to pay the $3 million to Russell and let him go, they wouldn’t have to pay his base salary or take the severe cap hit. It’s a similar story in Tennessee with quarterback Vince Young, who has a $4.25 million roster bonus due March 10 to go along with a salary of $2.8 million. If the Titans decided to release him, they’d clear out over $7 million worth of payments. Of course the flip side to not having a salary cap is that teams could decide they are willing to pay Russell $15 million or Young over $7 million. But it’s more likely that, with an uncapped year, there would be a whole new crop of free agents.”
October 26th, 2009 at 9:36 am
I know its stupid as hell, but I just felt like posting that.
I remember watching NFL films as a kid and how much I loved that because it represented us so well.
Now its a joke.
I’m waiting for someone to make their own Autumn Wind. I’m sure Dakota would come up with something clever.
I’ve got nothing right now.
October 26th, 2009 at 9:39 am
Dell,
I don’t think I really have to blast away anymore…worst regular season loss since 1961 pretty much sums it up.
If some people in here still don’t get it, that is their problem, not mine.
I point out the bad things about the team that pretty much should be obvious to everyone, and I get lambasted for a week as being a bad guy or a hater.
But guess what, the next time we win an ugly 13-9 game the same schit will happen, people will demonize me when I point out, if necessary, that the game was a mirage. That it changed nothing, that Cable is still unqualified to coach, that our players are still uninspired turds.
Maybe next time some will reign in their enthusiasm a bit after a crap victory and not have to be so utterly disappointed the following week when reality sets back in.
When we see the offense move the ball and score some points, and when the defense can stop the run, and when the head coach gets a fukin clue, that will be when we can start celebrating the turnaround.
Not when a team like the Eagles falls on its face and fails to take advantage of our weaknesses. That wasn’t something to build on last week, that was simply the Eagles and Andy Reid overlooking us and not exposing what all the other teams know…run the ball.
Damn, this sucks. I just don’t see any short term hope for this team. We need a new coach, but the owners reputation will most likely prevent us from obtaining a quality HC. We need o-line, d-line and LBs, but the owner will most likely continue drafting DBs and WRs. We need a staff that can develop the QB, but the QB doesn’t respect the staff or work as hard as he should because he knows the owners covets players over coaches and is stubborn enough to keep throwing him out there no matter how bad he plays. McFadden can’t stay healthy. Bush is never afforded an opportunity. Chris Johnson is what we thought he was. So many holes and problems…makes me want to pull my hair out.
October 26th, 2009 at 9:41 am
Worst loss in 50 years and 39,000 in attendance says it all. If this isn’t rock bottom, I don’t want to see what is.
October 26th, 2009 at 9:42 am
I think Seymour said it best…”I don’t think we could have beaten an Oakland high school team today”
October 26th, 2009 at 9:44 am
Dakota,
No need to pull your hair out. We have what we have.
Just accept who they are and understand that. Play fantasy football and become a student of the entire NFL. Just hope the Raiders compete but understand that it won’t likely happen.
Otherwise, your only other option is to jump ship and follow another team…..
They won’t win again until there is a change at the top.
Blaming players and coaches only seeks to misdirect the blame.
It all starts and ends with Al Davis. Its amazing that he has sullied his Hall Of Fame reputation. He’s worse than Millen ever was
October 26th, 2009 at 9:44 am
#220,
Great, we will probably dump Russel and sign Vince friggin Young lol.
JEZUZ!
October 26th, 2009 at 9:44 am
“… I thought I gave the guy a chance to make a play on the ball. As far as what I was seeing. I didn’t see him come down with it.. …”
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That is some funny shyt!
As far as what I was seeing, I didn’t see him come down with it?
LMFAO!
October 26th, 2009 at 9:46 am
Wassup Dell ..
Great post earlier!
October 26th, 2009 at 9:50 am
Fire the fat moron who is just happy to be employed. It’s not just the HC who is happy to be employed, we also have a few players who are just happy to be employed:
TK
Warren
CJ
Brown, Sam Williams, and Alston
Eugene
Pears
Green
Cooper
Morris
All those players will be unemployed, if the Raiders cut them!
You can’t win with other team’s crap!
October 26th, 2009 at 9:51 am
If 38-0 was the worst Raiders regular season loss since 1961, what the hell was 44-7 loss against the Giants (a 37 point spread if I am not mistaken)?
Cable has captained us to the worst TWO regular season losses since 1961 in only three weeks!
But we are right on the cusp right Cable? Yikes.
October 26th, 2009 at 9:52 am
He did just throw it up, Watkins gave us nothing, but you don’t throw it up when Watkins is matched up with Revis. Revis is a Pro-Bowler and Watkins is lucky he isn’t in the UFL.
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You are so right! Now let’s take that a step further, DHB was doubled, and Miller was not in the pattern. What was the other option besides throwing it up? LOL! The play call was a disaster in that it actually worked as designed. Cable called a play that got a one on one matchup deep going into the end zone, lol! Too bad the matchup he created was Revis vs Watkins!
Run the fugging ball Cable!
October 26th, 2009 at 9:53 am
I believe that JR is not the problem, but Cable and coaching are the problem.
We have ayoung QB who started to play well the last few games of last season, but we helped him This season by starting 2 Rookie WRs, and a sorry Oline that most of them will not start for most teams.
Cable and Al are the Problems, and all these backups making tons of money!
Warren, TK, CJ, Cooper, and even Euk… Was payed 2.5 mil to play STs!!!!!!!!!!
October 26th, 2009 at 9:54 am
Jhill,
I can’t believe how bad of a playcaller Cable is. He is definitely not NFL caliber. He is a terrible head coach. The fact that the team competes against the Chargers and Eagles and Chiefs yet face plants the other games shows the preperation is weak at best and down right non-existant at the worst.
That Fassell Jr. coaching Special Teams should be dismissed immediately. He’s a loser that has taken a core team strength with basically the same returning players with a couple of upgrades and turned it into a HUGE liability.
Sanjay Lal was just thrown into what was the most important job.
And Tom Cable has no business playcalling a major D-1 program let alone the NFL>
Again, back to the owner who refuses to hire competent coaching and refuses to pay them. Davis doesn’t respect the role of coaches and it shows.
The worst owner in pro sports
October 26th, 2009 at 9:58 am
Touche’ Dakota!!!
I was hoping some corner would be turned from last week’s win over Philly. I want you to know that I never implied that you were a hater.
My respect for you is more than just this blog. I see your analysis from last week’s game was how you see this current team. I on the other hand just wanted to see if this team could build on that victory and wanted optimisim from you also.
My apologys to you. I should have known that the team after last week, is the same team that lost the week before in New York.
Finally, my last comment. They knew the Jets were going to run the ball, yet they still could not stop it or better yet slow it down. Please no more excuses, about gap control, or blaming Marshall. The Raiders play a one gap defense, it’s man vs man, we lose every time.
October 26th, 2009 at 10:01 am
Dell,
I know you didn’t…you only checked me on bringing it up so soon after the victory…and I was wrong for doing that. Other chumps in here are the guilty parties…and I see they ran for the hills.
puzzies
October 26th, 2009 at 10:03 am
—”Leon Washington, out for the year with a fractured fibula, reportedly took out a Lloyds of London insurance policy before the season. In the final year of his rookie contract, Washington turned down multiple offers from the Jets this summer in hopes that he’d attract a Maurice Jones-Drew type of deal in free agency. Jets GM Mike Tannenbaum is throwing his full support behind Washingon, saying he expects the big-play threat to be with the Jets a “long, long time.”"—
wise choice! my ex GF works for them, well in their vessel insurance department, I hink Leon will kick off the cleets and see some ball on tv onwards =)
October 26th, 2009 at 10:06 am
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October 26th, 2009 at 10:08 am
Dakota,
Wow…was I wrong about Tom Cable. I thought we would see him build off of the offense from last year. Instead he goes buck wild and puts in his Vandals Offense.
All the idiot had to do was stick to the game plan from last year and expand the playbook.
Keep JLH in the starting lineup…remain a run 1st offense that picks its spots…and let the QB grow.
But nope….starting with the 3rd QTR of the San Diego game…and a brief respite during the Eagles game…this unqualified man threw the Raiders back to another Idaho inspired offense called the Bed and Breakfast.
Boy can Al Davis really pick these coaches!
October 26th, 2009 at 10:08 am
FU Cable!!
You too Al.
The worst Raiders team in history! Worse than the ART & BB Team.that team had no one but Nnamdi & Moss! This team has more talent IMO!
October 26th, 2009 at 10:09 am
Shonn Greene sure looked like a Pro-Bowler yesterday. Was he drafted ahead of McFadden?
October 26th, 2009 at 10:09 am
How did JaMarcus even get out of the locker room with that big head? That boy needs a reality check. He sucks and doesnt know it.
Even though he has $35 million I’m sure we’ll be reading about his bankrupt status in about 3 years, just like those lottery winners that lose it all because they’re ignorant and don’t have any idea how to manage it. JaMarcus will lose it all supporting his bad habits and friends (thugs)he is surrounding himself with.
He should take a look at a REAL professional athlete like Tiger Woods who is humble, in the best shape possible, has a BEAUTIFUL hot ass wife, has class and dedicated to his talent! I would give Raider season tickets to see him play just ONCE.
Get rid of Jalooooooooooooooooser Al please send him home.
October 26th, 2009 at 10:12 am
They all look like ProBowlers when the run on the Raiders! Unknown RBs look forward to playing the Raiders, so they can shine!
S Young, Bell, Green, coffee, etc…..
October 26th, 2009 at 10:13 am
Neilb,
Thank you so much for that link, you really shouldn’t have bothered yourself. Really! lol
October 26th, 2009 at 10:15 am
The problem with firing Cable during the season is that we would then only be able to hire another interim HC because of the Rooney Rule, and none of the decent HCs out there are going to touch this team without a guaranteed position with guaranteed money (paid up front by the “for cause” owner).
Cross Gruden, Shanny, Cowher, Dungy, Holmgren off the list…not to mention every assistant coach currently under contract and every college coach.
Do you guys really want another unqualified assistant coach to be elevated to HC, and then when the team wins a couple of games at the end of the year he gets the permanent job and then we waste the 2010 season discovering there was a reason that coach should never have been considered for a HC position?
Really? Not me…when I say fire Cable, I mean at the end of the year…and then hope and pray a miracle happens and Al somehow convinces a quality HC to come in…HOPE AND PRAY!!!!! Kind of a long shot, but better than nothing I guess.
October 26th, 2009 at 10:15 am
I think it’s really really bad that it didn’t even occur to me as I was watching that this was the worst home loss ever.
Things have gotten so awful for our team in the last 7 years (yes, we can just officially say 7 now), that I thought 38 was up there, but not the worst.
Hopefully a young team can learn NFL football in a humiliating defeat.
I think it looks bad for them now, and I’m quite possibly a fool for saying it, but I think DHB and Murphy will be solid receievrs, especially Murphy, who is a real brash, firey guy.
Interesting what Schefter said. Will we
a) continue to “develop” Russell on the fly
b) bench him and have him develop in the film room/gym
c) dump him and start over
I have this sinking feeling he’d catch on somewhere with good coaching and make Al look like even more of a fool.
Until he gets good coaching and good scheme, he’s damned if does, damned if he doesn’t.
I really think Al will ride this one out for another year. But who knows? He dumped Hall when he saw there was no way it was going to work. Of course he didn’t draft Hall #1 overall and defend him at every turn.
October 26th, 2009 at 10:16 am
Ah, but back to coaching again.
Where’s Tom Rathman?
Where’s Brian Schneider?
Where’s James Lofton…hell Fred Bilitnikoff
Where’s Jon Gruden?
Where’s the Commissioner?
October 26th, 2009 at 10:17 am
morning all.
October 26th, 2009 at 10:18 am
Maybe it’s just me but JaMarcus doesn’t look like he gives a damn.
October 26th, 2009 at 10:19 am
Hey that kid from Chadron, NE came in and had a few decent runs against us yesterday…Danny Woodhead.
Speaking of Shonn (LMFAO) Greene, how many players over the past 7 seasons have come in and had career days against us? Mind boggling.
October 26th, 2009 at 10:20 am
Sorry Raider O, guess you already answered my question about those backs having careeer days against us…sigh
October 26th, 2009 at 10:22 am
Chris Johnson has legally changed his name to: David Clowned-me.
October 26th, 2009 at 10:23 am
Those numbers against the run are pretty inflated when you consider the defense quit after 14-0 and the 2nd INT.
I think its been virtually the same pattern over the course of the last 7 years.
I’m all outta Kool Aid guys.
October 26th, 2009 at 10:24 am
Sorry Raider O, guess you already answered my question about those backs having careeer days against us…sigh
Yeah, we’ve made a lot of mediocre players look like pro bowlers.
Rueben Droughns comes to mind.
October 26th, 2009 at 10:25 am
Dakota,
How can they not fix the Run Defense, when it’s been an issue since we lost that SB?!
October 26th, 2009 at 10:25 am
SnB,
I agree, losing Rathman and Schneider really hurt…and Sanjay Lal is a joke.
October 26th, 2009 at 10:26 am
DHB is a bust. Crabtree will be an allstar.
McFumble is a bust. He and JRussell have fumblitus.
Davis drafts speed instead of football players. Look at our linebackers. They are fast, but when was the last time one of them blew up a runner in the hole???
I hate Al Davis. He has squandered opportunity after opportunity, and he doesn’t get it.
Start drafting linemen in the first round instead of the guy with the fastest 40 time, you idiot!
October 26th, 2009 at 10:26 am
I think he does give a d@mn. To be honest I think he does not want to have a Russel meltdown out there. He showed more emotion than usuaal in their loosing effort. He is a frustrated man, the writing is on the wall.
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neilb Says:
October 26th, 2009 at 10:18 am
Maybe it’s just me but JaMarcus doesn’t look like he gives a damn.
October 26th, 2009 at 10:26 am
# Dakota Says:
October 26th, 2009 at 10:25 am
SnB,
I agree, losing Rathman and Schneider really hurt…and Sanjay Lal is a joke
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Spot on!
October 26th, 2009 at 10:26 am
Maybe it’s just me but if I was the #1 pick and people were calling me a bust and a failure I’d be working my socks off.I’d be first to practice and last to leave.Film,coaches,gameplans – I’d never leave the place.
Look at the body language after a 3 and out…..nothing.Not pi$$ed off,no talking to coaches,no trying to lift his team-mates.Nothing.
Seems that a big,fat bank account is more important than his legacy.
October 26th, 2009 at 10:27 am
ahhhhh man. the season is over for da raidahz. thank the lord for fantasy football. at least my fantasy team’s games are not over by half time. vernon davis for mvp. yeah!
October 26th, 2009 at 10:27 am
LMN……
I posted yesterday that Liverpool would get stuffed by Man Utd.
Sorry…….
October 26th, 2009 at 10:27 am
Raider O,
The hell if I know! Same with the o-line! Barnes and Satale? Really? FU AL!!!!!!
October 26th, 2009 at 10:29 am
Sorry guys, I can’t do this today…it is taking me to a dark place.
Life is too good to let this BS drag you down.
Later
October 26th, 2009 at 10:29 am
Michael Pittman ran over that Defense in the SB, and it was all over since then!
Stop the Run you Ignorant, Old, Crazy, Talking Monkey AKA Al.
October 26th, 2009 at 10:32 am
# neilb Says:
October 26th, 2009 at 10:27 am
LMN……
I posted yesterday that Liverpool would get stuffed by Man Utd.
Sorry…….
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bwahahahahaha, well as long as you guy have Vidic, no worries, I think he wants to set the record for most red cards in a season =)
oh and we ki11ed you with out Gerard, I honestly didnt think that was possible =) LOL
October 26th, 2009 at 10:32 am
Cheap Coaches + No Scouting Department = Blowouts
October 26th, 2009 at 10:32 am
Sorry, one last thing…Tom Rathman should have been named interim HC last season. Smart guy, great player, players respected him, former Raider, great pedigree via the 49ers, same NFL head coaching experience as Cable…none.
Instead we went with Mr. 11-35.
October 26th, 2009 at 10:33 am
We have second rate coaching in the raiders organizaiton. Al davis needs spend some money on a real coaching staff. Until Al Davis shows a “commitment to excellence”,I’ll opt to watch some competative high school football. It is a shame that a professional orgonaizaiton lacks any professionalism. I don’t know if it is the players anymore. We have had some real talent, for example you take Randy Moss, in here. Al davis insists that coaching is not a nessasary ingredient to winning but we can see after a 38-0 beating, that belief is far from proving accurate.
October 26th, 2009 at 10:34 am
neilb Says:
October 26th, 2009 at 10:18 am
Maybe it’s just me but JaMarcus doesn’t look like he gives a damn.
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Yeah, his attitude is completey off.
Even if, in your heart of hearts, you feel as if you’re doing nothing wrong, you can’t throw your team under the bus like that. ‘It’s this guy and that guy’ doesn’t cut it.
Russell’s earned nothing and even a Kurt Warner, a veteran in this league and the leading passer in SB games, would never say something like that.
As a matter of fact, when he hung Breaston out to dry and got him hammered last year, he was considering retiring from football altogether because he was so upset with himself.
Real leadership is needed in Oakland. You have to earn the right to talk like that.
October 26th, 2009 at 10:35 am
Cheap Coaches + No Scouting Dept. = DHB and Crabtree…Jamarcus and Matt Ryan….McFadden and Chris Johnson… looks good getting off the bus and looks good on the field…..PATHETIC!
October 26th, 2009 at 10:35 am
Kdstar….
We have a second rate coaching staff because Al won’t let them coach.
October 26th, 2009 at 10:36 am
Like a drug addicted Girlfriend….You never know what they are going to do next, you love them, but you hate the fact that they are constantly hurting themselves, they abuse your loyalty and devotion, but yet you just cant stop loving them.
Who’s the fool in that situation……US!! The fans.
There is no point in scrutiny any longer, it’s the same thing week in, week out. Until major changes happen with ownership and the teams direction, there is nothing the players can say or do to make this a better team. Too bad Al let things get this bad, but we always know, he comes first, not the team or the fans.
October 26th, 2009 at 10:40 am
Look fellas when the world is not looking silver and black do what I do and use your imagination Nation.
Just picture the team playing being in silver and black instead of gold and black. Now this is football!!!
Why can’t we be this creative with our talent Al you @$$?
http://www.nfl.com/videos/new-orleans-saints/09000d5d813b4671/NFL-GameDay-Saints-vs-Dolphins-highlights
October 26th, 2009 at 10:40 am
CJ,
Oh, was it Boldin?
Maybe thats the play he broke his face and still played 2 weeks later.
Playing on one and a half legs last night.
Meanwhile our #1 WR is a 2nd year player with 2 career starts and 15 career catches who gets injured in non contact drills.
October 26th, 2009 at 10:41 am
after Mangini gets fired in Cleveland after the season, Rob Ryan will replace Tom Cable as HC of the Oakland Raiders
LOL. watch
October 26th, 2009 at 10:41 am
Al Davis will trade to get Dwayne Bowe, Craig “Buster” Davis & Early Doucet in here as Russell’s WR options. He’ll promise that will change everything and that the greatness of the Raiders is in its future.
Walker, Holland, Watkins & Nick Miller will be dumped to make room.
Al will tell everybody that his LSU shotgun offense will be back and that Russell’s new nickname is Mad Bomber. He’ll blame Cable for the hires of Hackett, Tollner, Lal & Skipper and all 5 of them will be fired.
October 26th, 2009 at 10:42 am
It was not Breston it was the other dude that we could not get to come play for us opposite Fitzgerald.
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LA to TheBay Says:
October 26th, 2009 at 10:34 am
neilb Says:
October 26th, 2009 at 10:18 am
Maybe it’s just me but JaMarcus doesn’t look like he gives a damn.
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Yeah, his attitude is completey off.
Even if, in your heart of hearts, you feel as if you’re doing nothing wrong, you can’t throw your team under the bus like that. ‘It’s this guy and that guy’ doesn’t cut it.
Russell’s earned nothing and even a Kurt Warner, a veteran in this league and the leading passer in SB games, would never say something like that.
As a matter of fact, when he hung Breaston out to dry and got him hammered last year, he was considering retiring from football altogether because he was so upset with himself.
Real leadership is needed in Oakland. You have to earn the right to talk like that.
October 26th, 2009 at 10:42 am
LOL. Rob freakin Ryan as HC should make for beautiful curse filled press conferences…
October 26th, 2009 at 10:44 am
Rockstar….
felt like someone walked over my grave when I read that !!
October 26th, 2009 at 10:47 am
Is it still too much to hope for in beating SD and being a good 2nd half (of the season) team once we get something that resembles an NFL O Line back together and a WR that can catch (and please stay healthy) and a RB who can hit home runs (and please stay healthy)?
All the Green haters got what you wanted, see how it turned out? Yeah, the guy takes dumb penalties, but he can hold up in pass protection and is a hell of a run blocker. And he’s garbage. What does that say about the team?
F the commisioner, where are the fans? Where are the ex-Raiders? Someone Al trusts and hasn’t burned a bridge with (we’re talking a handful of guys here) to tell him, ‘Look, Al – we all appreciate what you did here. It’s time to move on. Be leader in name only.’
October 26th, 2009 at 10:48 am
So, if the games are over by half time and the season is over after 8 games, shoudn’t raaider season tickets cost 1/4th that of other franchises?
October 26th, 2009 at 10:52 am
Hahahahahahah awesome game yesterday lol.
Look Russell is handicapping the team. 14 turnovers is awful. Talk about the other players if you want but you guys keep missing it. The leader, the face of the franchise is not getting it done at all. All of these analysts and former football players cant all be lying and hating.
Al Davis is at the top of this mess. It is embarrassing and the folks at the game are just devastated. Al’s player evaluation is beyond questionable. I told everyone having a weak middle will kill the defense. Morrison and Warren as your key guys up the middle will always have you at the bottom of the pack. During the preseason all I heard was we needed a RDE. I told everyone the NT is the problem because he isnt a run stuffer. Well you got seymour and nada has changed lol.
Oh well, I’m not even mad as some of you guys. The team tanked it after Russell’s INT. I was there and everyone inthe stands knew it. If Chaz woulda played we still would have got whooped.
Nada is changing until Al goes. Gruden got a lot of credit for the turnaround and that pissed Al off. Kiffin was trying to change things and got slashed for it. Now I really never liked Gruden or Kiffin but the results show they may be right and Al looks like an idiot everytime.
Now we are looking at April 2010, what is the best option? Terrence Cody? Taylor Mays? Colt McCoy? Come on they all will come here party it up and get their ass whipped on Sundays.
October 26th, 2009 at 10:52 am
Mistabrown Says:
October 26th, 2009 at 7:17 am
Oakglen, If you were actually at the Raider game you wouldn’t know how the 49er game ended.
Lying fraud!
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You ever hear of ESPN sports center??? How about the halftime highlights on NBC’s Football Nite in America??? Some of you (rack-ette, raider4eve, maddenloser) are SO FAR off the deep end it is scary. You need help fistabrown. Professional help. Seriously. By Making fun of you on an hourly basis it has fukked up your brain. Badly. I admit it messed you up. Now, Go to the psyche ward and get some professional help.
October 26th, 2009 at 10:55 am
Eugene Monroe has played in 5 games, starting 4 of them.
In 4 starts he has 4 sacks allowed and a false start.
Eben Britton has started 5 games for the Jags. 3 sacks allowed and 1 false start.
common mistakes. these guys are rookies in a tough division!
Cornell Green is in his 8th NFL season. 4 starts = 4 false starts, 1 holding, 1 sack allowed
Erik Pears is in his 4th NFL season. 4 starts = 4 false starts & 4 sacks allowed
Khalif Barnes is in his 5th NFL season. gave up 2 or 3 sacks in his first NFL start at RT yesterday.
Tom Cable is supposed to be an excellent o-line coach, right? then why can’t he see that these scrubs need to be replaced or never should have been signed in the first place?
look at Kwame Harris last year! disgusting …
October 26th, 2009 at 10:55 am
You see Russell’s comments? I wonder what the doubters of my claims about him not giving a damn have say now. I was pissed when we drafted him in 2007 because I remember LSU players wanted Matt Flynn to start over him in 2005! Any wonder why? Russell isnt good people. Guy is tragically terrible and will never ever be a good player. All you Russell excusers need to wake up
October 26th, 2009 at 10:55 am
Come on they all will come here party it up and get their ass whipped on Sundays.
I agree.
I like that kid Suh (sp?) at DT. What a beast.
Doesn’t matter much. The whole thing is outta whack.
Start over, just keep the uniforms and the following players:
Aso
Seymour
Ellis
Howard
Branch
Miller
Henderson
Gallery
Murphy
Russell (Gary, that is)
Fargas (for the haters)
Get a smart QB
Get a for real HC/OC/DC
Get monsters to play MLB, SSLB, DT, C, RG, RT
Get a beast at SS (maybe Mitchell, impossible to tell)
Get a possesion WR
Get an everydown RB
October 26th, 2009 at 10:58 am
Play calling and WR play is a bigger factor than the QB performance (which was bad also)
If Russell was that bad, Gradkowski should have made a bigger impact when he came in.
Receivers were not getting open or catching the ball even when NY was giving them everything underneath.
We are two to three “legitimate” receivers from being anything but a ball control offense.
We should never pass on first down and only on third and long.
We should have a offense that resembles Miami and less like Arizona.
Play calling is killing us!!
Wrong schemes for the wrong personell.
JR has sucked, but Collins sucked too, and so did 6 other QBs yesterday.
October 26th, 2009 at 10:59 am
Al aint giving in LAtoBay……….face it man. Guys like that will do it there way until the grave.
You guys can do all your draft predicting and shhhhhhhht wont change. A physical beast will be selected in the first round, he may not be a great football player but he will be a specimen.
Al Davis is Vince McMahon and I’m unsure how you guys cant see it.
October 26th, 2009 at 11:00 am
Al doesnt give a shhhht and never will. He is content as long as he runs the team his way.
Raiders will win two or three more games this year by pure luck then Cable gets fired after the 16th game. Then after a long drawn out coaching search we get some puppet who cant coach to save his life. Another funny ass presser wll be done and Al will tell the world why he is so great again and again. He will say stuff about the guys who were begging to coach for him and how the media is lying on him. Few insults at others then a mispronunciation of the new coach lol
October 26th, 2009 at 11:00 am
Grand Guru, not only does he not give a damn, no one on that entire team does and that might be directly because of him. That was PAINFULLY obvious yesterday. That was not professional football played by the home team yesterday.
October 26th, 2009 at 11:00 am
Its not as if the team responded to Gradkowski, and he coughed it up.
Its an organizational problem.
Starts from the top all the way down to the practice squad.
Al won’t give up….ever. That’s why he needs to be convinced he is head honcho in name and history book only.
We’ll get an effective coach who will keep the identity intact, but you have to cede control over scheme and roster.
October 26th, 2009 at 11:03 am
Jeff George has contacted the league office and is currently on board a plane destined for Oakland.
-John Herrera
October 26th, 2009 at 11:04 am
time to shake things up. play calling goes to Mr. Conservative (Ted Tollner)
Frye, J. Walker, Higgins, McQuistan, L. Walker replace Russell, DHB, Murphy, Carlisle & Barnes as starters on offense. we need some sort of spark to even compete with SD this week … otherwise I think we lose 35-7, if not worse
October 26th, 2009 at 11:06 am
10-20 Years ago if NFL teams were bad, fans would say that team couldn’t beat the top college team. Back then there was a marked difference in size, talent level and coaching that pro teams were that much better than college teams. That’s not true now. I have a HARD TIME believing we could beat ANY of the top 5 or 6 teams. Florida, Alabama. SC, Texas, Boise State would probably beat the Oakland Raiders. In fact Right now, TCU could probably beat the Oakland Raiders.
October 26th, 2009 at 11:08 am
# LA to TheBay Says:
October 26th, 2009 at 10:55 am
Come on they all will come here party it up and get their ass whipped on Sundays.
I agree.
I like that kid Suh (sp?) at DT. What a beast.
Doesn’t matter much. The whole thing is outta whack.
Start over, just keep the uniforms and the following players:
Aso
Seymour
Ellis
Howard
Branch
Miller
Henderson
Gallery
Murphy
Russell (Gary, that is)
Fargas (for the haters)
Get a smart QB
Get a for real HC/OC/DC
Get monsters to play MLB, SSLB, DT, C, RG, RT
Get a beast at SS (maybe Mitchell, impossible to tell)
Get a possesion WR
Get an everydown RB
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Just stop man. You dont get it at all. None of that will happen. Not even close
October 26th, 2009 at 11:10 am
Oakglenn the Merc………..would you give a damn either if the so called leader doesnt? Would you give a damn when the owner is oblivious to the obvious? I wouldnt give a damn either. They didnt go home and stay there to reflect on a bad game. Naw them guys went out and partied and didnt even give the game a second thought.
October 26th, 2009 at 11:11 am
# LA to TheBay Says:
October 26th, 2009 at 11:00 am
Its not as if the team responded to Gradkowski, and he coughed it up.
Its an organizational problem.
Starts from the top all the way down to the practice squad.
Al won’t give up….ever. That’s why he needs to be convinced he is head honcho in name and history book only.
We’ll get an effective coach who will keep the identity intact, but you have to cede control over scheme and roster.
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Put the Henny down my friend. An effective coach aint coming here
October 26th, 2009 at 11:11 am
i am NOT going to the game here in S.D. on sunday.
anyone wan’t to say i’m not a true raider fan go ahead. but i’m not going to pay to watch this crap period.
i think fargas should be given the starting running back job. at least he loves to play football and he play’s hard and he play’s hard the whole game. f-the rest of those guy’s in the backfield.
October 26th, 2009 at 11:13 am
Brien the Grand Guru Says:
October 26th, 2009 at 11:10 am
Oakglenn the Merc………..would you give a damn either if the so called leader doesnt? Would you give a damn when the owner is oblivious to the obvious?
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No. No I wouldn’t.
October 26th, 2009 at 11:14 am
# Oakglenn Says:
October 26th, 2009 at 11:06 am
10-20 Years ago if NFL teams were bad, fans would say that team couldn’t beat the top college team. Back then there was a marked difference in size, talent level and coaching that pro teams were that much better than college teams. That’s not true now. I have a HARD TIME believing we could beat ANY of the top 5 or 6 teams. Florida, Alabama. SC, Texas, Boise State would probably beat the Oakland Raiders. In fact Right now, TCU could probably beat the Oakland Raiders.
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Ok stop now Glenn. You cant be serious. The best NCAA team would get trampled by the worse NFL team every damn year. But I understand the point, we are terrible.
October 26th, 2009 at 11:15 am
Russell turned the ball over 3 times in 25 minutes. Graddy turned it over once in 35 minutes.
not great, but improvement of some sort
he entered the game down 21-0.
October 26th, 2009 at 11:19 am
Oakglenn Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 8:30 pm
As I posted earlier, Cable is 5-7 in his last 12 and 4-4 in his last 8. Coming from a team with a .250 over the last 5+ years, that is a good trajectory. He is doing a much better job than anyone since Gruden. Might be time to get behind what this guy is preaching.
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hey u, STFU, when r u going to man up and apologize for all the bs u typed this year. JR is bonafida QB, every game is winnable, end up 9 wins, coach cable is gr8, dude, stop coming here with ur bs, u r shame to this blog. Real fans go to watch Jr lay an egg, u live 15 mins away, obviously u do since u r Al Davis supporter who lacks any crediblity just like him. U have nothing to say cuz every word u say is a joke.
October 26th, 2009 at 11:19 am
Of course you wouldnt Glenn. If you were from the some country ass rural town and you get a hefty contract to play football in the bay area with all these different types of distractions you wouldnt do shyt either. Especially for an organization that doesnt preach discipline. That crap worked back in the day because times were different in this country. Being so rebellious could work but not in today’s time. Just will not work out. You must have some structure and professionalism. Everyone has a job to do and must be allowed to do it. One old ass man cant try to run the entire show.
October 26th, 2009 at 11:22 am
Start Russell I say. I want him to keep embarrassing himself week in and week out. Al needs to keep getting embarrassed
October 26th, 2009 at 11:22 am
Richochet Says:
October 25th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
9er Guy Says:
October 25th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
How did the 49ers go from winning the first few games in the start of the season to losing every game since?
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Simple.
When you play a team who’s vastly over rated, who’s win’s came against teams that were total garbage, which gave the 49ers the impression that they’re 3 wins we’re admirable, instead of hardly earned.
And then they played teams who’s not vastly over rated.
Quite simple, actually.
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Nice breakdown peanut.
October 26th, 2009 at 11:23 am
“They be lettin you know where evil lurk.”
Nice Friday reference SmokeDog. Let me guess you’ve been smokin since you were 2?
October 26th, 2009 at 11:27 am
Put the Henny down my friend. An effective coach aint coming here
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I’ll never put the Henny down. Trees either. They be lettin you know where evil lurk.
A head coach of NFL calibre could come to this team. It would just take Al Davis ceding control, which is unliekly if not impossible.
I understand none of that will happen, Brien. This is a knee jerk reaction to a bad loss – one of many.
Its not pretty when the Kool Aid wears off.
Maybe I’ll make some more for the SD game, but keep the Dixie cups to a minimum, cause there won’t be much and it will be real watered down.
October 26th, 2009 at 11:27 am
THere is only one solution……..one guy that can change this and its Al Davis. You knoe how he changes it? He makes a call to one Bill Cowher and tells him he has complete control on all player personnel. Cowher can turn it around if he wasnt been put in check by Al at every turn. Too bad Al wont do it because it would mean someone else would be leading the Raiders.
October 26th, 2009 at 11:29 am
later fellas. back to work
carpe diem!
October 26th, 2009 at 11:30 am
Team stinks to high hell and nada is changing. Garbage garbage garbage is what we will see on sunday. Sure they may play hard in the first half and then 2nd half they will blow it.
October 26th, 2009 at 11:32 am
Ha that Henny and tree sure letting you know where the evil lurks…………..in a wheelchair of an 80 year old dictator
October 26th, 2009 at 11:38 am
Anyhow im out. Wonderful monday. Enjoy yourselves
October 26th, 2009 at 11:42 am
# Raiders4eve Says:
October 26th, 2009 at 11:19 am
hey u, STFU, when r u going to man up and apologize for all the bs u typed this year. JR is bonafida QB, every game is winnable, end up 9 wins, coach cable is gr8, dude, stop coming here with ur bs, u r shame to this blog. Real fans go to watch Jr lay an egg, u live 15 mins away, obviously u do since u r Al Davis supporter who lacks any crediblity just like him. U have nothing to say cuz every word u say is a joke.
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You can’t even construct a sentence you toool! Go back to the 4th grade, fukking moron.
October 26th, 2009 at 11:50 am
Brien,
The only chance the Raiders have is to get lucky.
1. Hire some unknown who is actually a talented coach but was so far underground that no one would give the guy a legit chance.
2. Sign a veteran QB and he get re-inspired by the chance to start in the NFL. Becomes the de facto leader and fills the leadership vacuum that our inpotent coaches can’t/won’t fill. Hopefully this vet QB can get the players to police themselves
3. Find a gem in the late rounds that actually plays to his physical dimensions or heals quickly from his knee injury in college
Basically its luck. Until DAvis steps down we have what we have.
I accepted it after the Giants debacle. I know what this team is and I really don’t expect a victory. All I ask for is that they compete…..CAn’t even get that.
October 26th, 2009 at 11:52 am
Good answer Oak!
LMAO
# Oakglenn Says:
October 26th, 2009 at 11:42 am
# Raiders4eve Says:
October 26th, 2009 at 11:19 am
hey u, STFU, when r u going to man up and apologize for all the bs u typed this year. JR is bonafida QB, every game is winnable, end up 9 wins, coach cable is gr8, dude, stop coming here with ur bs, u r shame to this blog. Real fans go to watch Jr lay an egg, u live 15 mins away, obviously u do since u r Al Davis supporter who lacks any crediblity just like him. U have nothing to say cuz every word u say is a joke.
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You can’t even construct a sentence you toool! Go back to the 4th grade, fukking moron.
October 26th, 2009 at 11:53 am
Oakglen,
Hows that “trajectory” analogy working for you? As well as the “bonafide” Qb I imagine…lol
October 26th, 2009 at 11:55 am
Dakota Says:
October 26th, 2009 at 10:32 am
Sorry, one last thing…Tom Rathman should have been named interim HC last season. Smart guy, great player, players respected him, former Raider, great pedigree via the 49ers, same NFL head coaching experience as Cable…none.
Instead we went with Mr. 11-35.
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Rathman? Rathman is far too smart to coach the Raiders.
Cable emits the “dull Neanderthal” look that is important to Al.
Al’s HC requirements:
1. Be a yes man, or at least give the impression you are. (nice sell, Chucky and Lane/Lance) ala Shell, Callahan, Norv, and Cable.
2. Be either an asst who’s willing to “learn from Master Yoda” or a dejected former HC, who’s desperate for another chance.
LMAO knowing that Al was chomping at the bit, hoping that Cable would be charged, knowing he had another “fire with cause” so he could again pay bargain basement rates for a HC.
Accept it, Raider fan..you’re stuck with that old goat recycling bottom of the barrel candidates, and it won’t change..for DECADES.
Funny watching Al slowly but surely tarnish his once proud image, to where even the most die hard of Raider fan despises him.
Hey, you’re Raider fans…the sheep of the world. Should you deserve any better?
I think not, lol.
October 26th, 2009 at 11:55 am
# Oakglenn Says:
October 26th, 2009 at 11:42 am
# Raiders4eve Says:
October 26th, 2009 at 11:19 am
hey u, STFU, when r u going to man up and apologize for all the bs u typed this year. JR is bonafida QB, every game is winnable, end up 9 wins, coach cable is gr8, dude, stop coming here with ur bs, u r shame to this blog. Real fans go to watch Jr lay an egg, u live 15 mins away, obviously u do since u r Al Davis supporter who lacks any crediblity just like him. U have nothing to say cuz every word u say is a joke.
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You can’t even construct a sentence you toool! Go back to the 4th grade, fukking moron.
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So, by YOUR reasoning, OakDork, it’s ok that YOU state, stupidly, how great the Raiders are going to do, as long as you use good grammar, regardless of how far up your ass your head is?
Or that, according to YOU, Russell is a bonifide star in the making? As long as you spell “star” properly?
Or that it’s ok that you’re a fakeass fan who doesn’t really go to games, who instead stays on this board, PRETENDING HE LEFT..then stupidly comes back on 30 minutes later, shortly before kickoff, TO REPLY TO SOMEONE..because..you “constructed a sentence”???
WRONG, MORON.
How sorryass weak can you be? Yes, yes, I know..”much, much weaker, Richochet..as I’ll soon prove”… be that as it may..is there anyone who continues to open mouth, and insert foot, quite like you?
I really want to believe you’re an adult.
With a teen it means you’ll likely wise up, get some knowledge, buy a clue, and look back on these days as your ‘I was a dumb kid” moment.
But as an adult? lol…you’re stupid goes all the way to the bone.
So..OakDork..which is it? Hope for a better tomorrow, or “Stupid is as stupid does”?
October 26th, 2009 at 11:57 am
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# Oakglenn Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 9:55 pm
Every game to me at least is a winnable game. SD, KC, Cinn, Wash, in Dallas, in Cleveland, Baltimore are all winnable games. The only really tough games to me right now, are in Pitt and in Denver. Now, things change during the course of the year, with teams playing well, injuries, guys emerging. But you want an answer: We run the table or at least win 8-9 of our last 10. How’s that for a prediction??
October 26th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
LMAO – It may be an honor for someone to claim you are not a true Raider fan. The way these bums play! You say that like it is a bad thing. I love the shield of old but I hate the team of teh last 5 years. self-centered partying bastards! Plus Al is an out of date decision making idiot! he is not on the field of but he does hire coaches and no GM. Power hungry “just loose baby” is his motto. Now focus on a GM, Coach or scout team. Instead there head coach is fighting with an Al appointed idiot over how sorry their defense is. They should have punched each other! Cable the o-line coach, What the f#(K???? How can you know o-line and they went over 300 yards in running. There is enough blame to go around twice.
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UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER Says:
October 26th, 2009 at 11:11 am
i am NOT going to the game here in S.D. on sunday.
anyone wan’t to say i’m not a true raider fan go ahead. but i’m not going to pay to watch this crap period.
i think fargas should be given the starting running back job. at least he loves to play football and he play’s hard and he play’s hard the whole game. f-the rest of those guy’s in the backfield.
October 26th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
Firing Cable now will NOT matter one bit. Only thing that should be done now as far as a coaching standpoint is Tollner needs to call the plays.
The person who needs to go away who has making stupid decisions last six years is the freakin OWNER/MEDDLING OWNER/GM/PERSONNEL MAN/DRAFT DAY DECISION MAKER/FOOTBALL OPERATIONS/HEAD OF SCOUTING/WANNABE COACH/WANNABE DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR/DICTATOR/WANNABE EMPEROR FROM STAR WARS…..
The stubborn old senile delusional man himself Al Davis!!!
He needs to give up on making all the day to day football decisions of this organization…..one and for all!! Or this team will NEVER get better! NEVER!
The last move the old man should make this year is trading for Michael Vick! He would be cheaper and better than any other QB we have now. Then at the end of the season hire Holmgren as the GM/PERSONNEL MAN.
Then hire Bruce Allen as the capologist and then Holmgren should hire Jon Gruden as coach or Cowher and let them do their thing and exercise all the losing demons this franchise has all over them! Gruden or Cowher would probably work wonders with Vick as their QB.
Thats the only way things will turn around for the Raiders franchise.
October 26th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
I hate this team so much I could slap the water boy and put tacks in Al’s depends.
How can you not at least kick one stinking field goal?
If Cable comes back next year I am finding a new team, call me what you want. I honestly don’t see this team winning in another 2-3 years.
October 26th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
I saw Jamarcus after game. He said he envies Mark Sanchez because he would like to play for a team that allows players to eat hotdogs on the bench.
October 26th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
No coach worth his salt in gold wants to come here and play. Why would you come here is you had a choice? No GM, medling owner, no QB, no defense. Everyone has wise cracks about the team. Why would you come here?
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DKnight007 Says:
October 26th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
Firing Cable now will NOT matter one bit. Only thing that should be done now as far as a coaching standpoint is Tollner needs to call the plays.
The person who needs to go away who has making stupid decisions last six years is the freakin OWNER/MEDDLING OWNER/GM/PERSONNEL MAN/DRAFT DAY DECISION MAKER/FOOTBALL OPERATIONS/HEAD OF SCOUTING/WANNABE COACH/WANNABE DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR/DICTATOR/WANNABE EMPEROR FROM STAR WARS…..
The stubborn old senile delusional man himself Al Davis!!!
He needs to give up on making all the day to day football decisions of this organization…..one and for all!! Or this team will NEVER get better! NEVER!
The last move the old man should make this year is trading for Michael Vick! He would be cheaper and better than any other QB we have now. Then at the end of the season hire Holmgren as the GM/PERSONNEL MAN.
Then hire Bruce Allen as the capologist and then Holmgren should hire Jon Gruden as coach or Cowher and let them do their thing and exercise all the losing demons this franchise has all over them! Gruden or Cowher would probably work wonders with Vick as their QB.
Thats the only way things will turn around for the Raiders franchise.
October 26th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
OK. what you want.
October 26th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
LOL!
# los raiders de don rober Says:
October 26th, 2009 at 12:07 pm
I saw Jamarcus after game. He said he envies Mark Sanchez because he would like to play for a team that allows players to eat hotdogs on the bench.
October 26th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
Maybe if they let Ja-Piewagon eat some Wendys burgers on the sideline he would play better, and he could attract pigeons with the french fries………..
October 26th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
Raider Fans.
Don’t get upset about wins and losses. The losing is just beginning. Al Davis will not change. He’s had success in the distant past doing things his way and therefore he’s not going to change.
No Mike Holmgrem or any other person with any kind of pedigree or potential is coming here. Otherwise Sean Payton would be the head coach with Rex Ryan as the D.C…
We have what we have. This is it. True fans are rarely ever tested. Well here’s the ultimate test. Can you follow and support a team that you know will not win?
The test was handed out 7 yrs ago. There is still a good 5 to 15 years left on this test. Who’s going to stick through it? Coaching ain’t getting better, scouting, drafting, scheme….all of it…IT WILL NOT GET BETTER
So the test is out. Many have UNDERSTANDABLY bailed out….but many have stayed. True fans I guess…
Otherwise, our only choice is to follow another team…or no team at all.
Things won’t change fellas. Better digest that and accept it!
October 26th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
What a shame. I will stop drinking the Koolaid. Go Raiders 2015.
October 26th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
# LA to TheBay Says:
October 26th, 2009 at 10:55 am
Come on they all will come here party it up and get their ass whipped on Sundays.
I agree.
I like that kid Suh (sp?) at DT. What a beast.
Doesn’t matter much. The whole thing is outta whack.
Start over, just keep the uniforms and the following players:
Aso
Seymour
Ellis
Howard
Branch
Miller
Henderson
Gallery
Murphy
Russell (Gary, that is)
Fargas (for the haters)
Get a smart QB
Get a for real HC/OC/DC
Get monsters to play MLB, SSLB, DT, C, RG, RT
Get a beast at SS (maybe Mitchell, impossible to tell)
Get a possesion WR
Get an everydown RB
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So, in other words, Al has blown, big time, 10 of the last dozen or so first round picks?
Yeah, we know. Everyone knows. Everyone except the guy who continues to make the picks.
You guys want the bad news?
News you already knew?
GO BACK TO AUGUST…EVERYTHING THAT YOU OH SO SLOW TO COME AROUND POSTERS ARE NOW SEEING AS REALITY is what I warned you about back then.
Yes, I know..the ‘I told ya so”’s always sting..especially when it comes from someone who not only routinely schools you, but someone so many of you desperately wanted to prove wrong.
Alas..you failed.
You will learn, grasshoppers, to believe in the wisdom of moi’.
Trust me
October 26th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
BS Detector Says:
October 25th, 2009 at 8:04 pm
lefty12 Says:
October 25th, 2009 at 8:00 pm
i listen to the guys on TV,i listen to guys on the radio(Flores),i listen to the coach after the game-they all say the same thing-the QB isn’t doing his job and the turnovers are his fault.all these people have been doing this for their whole lives.yet i’m supposed to ignore them and take the word of a bunch of people posting on the internet over them?get real!!!!!!!!
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I listened to all of that stuff today and not 1 person said it was all JaMarcus’s fault. So put down the pipe and stop making sh1t up to back up your argument. And please don’t be like those other idiots and use known idiot Jarrod Cooper as your “source”. Anyone that quotes him might as well be quoting Sean Salisbury. How stupid can people be?
Does JaMarcus suck? Yes. Is it all his fault? No. Get real bro and stop lying, it makes you look like a fool.
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I worry about you, BS. You seem to get confused easily, as if you have no choice.
Now pay attention, and please, raise your hand if you have a question.
What Lefty CLEARLY stated was that “the qb wasn’t doing his job”
He also CLEARLY stated that “the turnovers were JR’s fault”.
What part of that befuddled you? Lefty didn’t state “It’s ALL RUSSELL’S FAULT”.
Now, why don’t you give it another shot. You know..reply with something that makes sense, and actually refers to THE COMMENT MADE??
That possible, twaddle?
October 26th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
NAPA D.A. cost us this game!
October 26th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
Oakglenn bs speaker says:
You can’t even construct a sentence you toool! Go back to the 4th grade, fukking moron.
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Wow, how abt u construct an answer to what I said instead of worrying abt my sentence structure, this is a blog not university English class, how old r u? Why r u even here? It’s obvious u r just kid maybe 16 yrs old at best. Can u deny saying that Cable is a better coach than Gruden or that JR is a bonafida QB or that the Raiders are gonna ran up the table? My advice to u, MAN UP, say that u were influenced by your Castro street friend Priest, say that u going becoming straight and apologies to everyone for some of the worst things we read in here. Matter fact, just disappear in Castro that might be a better life 4 u.
October 26th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
Did any of you guys see Jamarcus on the sideline after the int? Having a laugh with someone(I cant remember the player standing next to him). I mean, when loosing by 24 by halftime is part of your routine sunday, why let an int sour your day?
October 26th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
“Yes, I know..the ‘I told ya so”’s always sting..especially when it comes from someone who not only routinely schools you, but someone so many of you desperately wanted to prove wrong.”
You school no one. In between your snide, asanine remarks, you tell us what many of us have known for years.
I think even with this roster, undersized LBs and pedestrian QB and rookie WRs and all, anybody with a good football mind and some common sense could win at least half their games.
Its like a viscious cycle:
Al Davis – Hires puppet coaches who install his schemes
Puppet coaches – hire sub par staff
Sub par staff – can’t coach up overrated talent
Overrated talent – selected based on athleticism
Scouting – selects the overrated talent
Al Davis – head of scouting.
My only hope is the team learns good football in bad games and the old man wakes up. @$$holes would add “or don’t,” which I’m even on the fence right now.
I think most of assumed, at the very least, Cable would continue to use the same offense and maybe even build upon it.
Not the case.
Come on, Al.
October 26th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
Offseason plan:
Trade for Kolb, hire Fassell (best we can hope for), draft o-line and LBs, sign the best NT on the market, get DHB a hand transplant.
October 26th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
Dakota Says:
October 26th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
Offseason plan:
Trade for Kolb, hire Fassell (best we can hope for), draft o-line and LBs, sign the best NT on the market, get DHB a hand transplant.
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Nope. Sign Rex Grossman, JP Losman, JT O’Sullivan and Jon Kitna and let them compete with Russell. If Russell can’t win the #1 job…cut him in camp ASAP.
Hire Mike Martz and let him run the offense as he sees fit.
Raiders will draft Taylor Mays as Michael Huff will be sent packing due to his high salary.
The Raiders will also draft another receiver as Schilens has proven unreliable…JLH is deep in the dog house and Watkins is not an NFL talent….Walker will be cut as well.
Franchise tag will be applied to Richard Seymour….a lineback will be taken in the 4th or 5th round with fastest 40x.
We will lose again next year.
Just enjoy your Sundays man.
The Raiders will not be winning for another 10+ years or so.
October 26th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
los raiders de don rober Says:
October 26th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
Did any of you guys see Jamarcus on the sideline after the int? Having a laugh with someone(I cant remember the player standing next to him). I mean, when loosing by 24 by halftime is part of your routine sunday, why let an int sour your day?
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Did anyone see Al Davis in the booth. You know…the guy that drafted Russell…and DHB…and McFumbles….and Huff…and Fabian Washington…and Robert Gallery….and PHilip Buchanon…and Brayton…
The same guy taking a kicker in the 1st rd…who thought he could win with Aaron Brooks and Josh McCown….
October 26th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
SnB,
Lol, Mike Martz…probably…hire a guy that needs an intelligent, accurate QB to run his offense and then hand him Russell and a bunch of WRs that can’t catch and tell him to make it work.
That is the Raider way baby!
October 26th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
I’ve always been one to admit when I’m wrong.
I’ve been a big supporter of JaMarcus all along, and still want to be.
It’s not even his play yesterday that has me most troubled. I’ve seen enough play by young QB’s over the past 30 years to not over-hype anything & everything I see from this kid right now.
My biggest problem, however, is his apparent reaction after the game.
It appeared that 52 guys took personal blame for yesterday’s loss.
JaMarcus apparently felt he had nothing to be accountable for.
That is NOT what I wanna hear from my QB.
And that crap better change soon. If I’m Cable, I’m gonna go down swinging (no pun intended) and get into this kid’s grill and rip him a new one until he gets it.
By “get it”, I mean that you don’t get to play when your play sucks, and you don’t get to play when you don’t act like a leader.
If you truly don’t feel like those poor plays where your fault, that’s fine. And it may even be true.
But as a quarterback, you suck it up and take the blame.
As a quarterback, you’ve got to be the guy others look to for leadership.
Shame on you J-Russ. I’ve been your biggest backer and I hope you prove me right when it’s all said and done.
October 26th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
Dakota,
I highly doubt that Russell would make it through a training camp ran by Mike Martz.
I am just throwing stuff at the wall.
It doesn’t matter what this team does. Its hopeless.
I just enjoy watching NFL football on Sunday’s….drink a few beers, kick back with some friends and enjoy the day.
The Raiders are an afterthought now.
I know what they are. I wish they weren’t….but let’s face facts.
Can’t get a GM….
or a coach
or players that are any good
Can’t win.
But we do have Al Davis!
So either sit back and enjoy your Sundays and chear for a lovable loser….
Or jump ship….and follow another team…or maybe no team at all..
I will sit back and enjoy my Sundays and root on those losers all the way to another double digit loss season!
Reality hurts!
October 26th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
“The Raiders will not be winning for another 10+ years or so.”
I still don’t agree with this. At least not that its written in stone.
Even being 80 and set in his ways, even Al can see how awful this has been. He saw it enough to attempt a trade for Wilfork, got Seymour as a consolation. Grabbed Ellis. Tried to get Garcia to push Russell.
The guy is egotistical, narssisistic (sp?), and essentially scum, but he wants to build the greatest team in all of sports.
Its clear to anyone he has not, including himself.
Even if his mother lived to be 100+ doesn’t mean he will. His clarity will give way if it hasn’t already. There will eventually be a mutiny. The fans will all but desert him.
He can win with his philosophy of the big play and beating the other guy, just not the way he does it.
Somoene who understands the modern game can translate the Al Davis philosophy to modern football. It can’t be installed verbatum. It’s outdated – antique even.
Plus, these players are too spoiled and too rich. We need more guys like a Harrison in Pitt. Undrafted, worked his @$$ off, and kept a good amount of lead in it.
We need real misfits and outcasts back on this team. Not divas and guys with evrything handed to them.
There are models all over the league for rebuilding, for scouting, for maintaining a good football franchise.
Al just has to win his way or not at all and its tearing the fanbase apart.
How many “I’ve been a fan for 30 years and I just can’t watch anymore” type posts and remarks have we come across recently?
Forget the last 7 years, I’m talking the last 3 weeks.
I’m tired of this BS.
The damn Kool Aid wore off. I got a Raiderade hangover.
October 26th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
You will learn, grasshoppers, to believe in the wisdom of moi’.
Trust me
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No.
Actually, you’re an ass-whipe, and nothing you say is worth a damn.
You’re a worthless pile of doo doo, and not even a fan of this team.
Nothing you say has any semblance of intelligence.
You are Richocrap.
That’s about all.
And when the Raiders climb out of this crap hole that they’ve resided in for 6 plus years (and trust me – they will), I will crap on you Richonuts. . . .you, MaddenRaider & fools like you.
October 26th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
Clarification: Post #343 was intended to be directed at Richonuts.
October 26th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
Smac,
It’s no use right now.
Richochet is right about the obvious.
We’ll be back one day, just not anytime soon.
You, I, and a few others will be there to say, man these guys sure turned out to be football players. Remember Murphy’s rookie season, dropping all those passes? etc.
When that day comes, I will be a truly happy Raider fan.
And I’m not jumping ship. I think it would be easier if we were Pirates fans or Cub fans. Haven’t experienced a winning team in our lifetimes, yet emotionally intertwined with a perrenial loser.
Nope. It’s a lot tougher because we were the Silver & Black. The Autumn Wind. The Kings of Monday Night.
We weren’t laughed at. The talking heads didn’t start snickering and chuckling before our highlights. We ere respected. Feared.
We took misfits and rejects and under the leadership of Al Davis, turned them into leaders, champions.
That’s where Davis went wrong. Maybe because there was no more Ron Wolf, maybe he got senile, maybe its just society and the culture of the game, I’m not sure. But at somepoint he stopped getting athletic football players and just got athletes.
We’ll be great again one day. Even the socks got over the Curse of the Bambino and the Raiders can overcome the Curse of Al Davis.
The true irony is that the Raiders were great because of Davis, not despite him.
Damn it, I love this team.
And F that.
October 26th, 2009 at 1:16 pm
LATo the BAy,
You need great coaching to turn those hard working low round/undrafted free agent types into great players.
Davis can’t attract those coaches. I hope he does someday…but I just can’t see it.
The Raiders are my team. I just don’t believe they can win consistently anymore. The franchse is badly broken.
I hope Davis can fix it….but reality suggests otherwise.
So enjoy the Sundays….there are only 16 of them in a season that our Raiders play a real game in….then its offseason B.S….and wasted talk about free agency and the draft and OTAs
I accept what we have and I am still a fan….go figure
October 26th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
Even the Red Sox got over the Curse of the Bambino*
October 26th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
Silver n Smack you are correct when discussing Russell’s sideline and post game apathetic attitude.
A friend of mine mentions how everytime he turns the ball over or our offense goes 3&out he just goes to a bench and puts on his knit cap.
I had noticed it before, but never realized he did it nearly if not every time.
Sure enough after each turnover and 3 & out he goes to the sideline and puts on his knit cap with our Raider logo, just embarrassing everyone in the bar here in Spokane, WA just laughed at him.
His attitude is the main reason for our poor play as a team; whether he likes he accepts responsibility or not he is the leader of this team and he is responsible for their play and attitude just as much as he is his own (acceptance of $31 million guaranteed means acceptance of the responsibility).
October 26th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
Silver-n-Smac Says:
October 26th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
You will learn, grasshoppers, to believe in the wisdom of moi’.
Trust me
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No.
Actually, you’re an ass-whipe, and nothing you say is worth a damn.
You’re a worthless pile of doo doo, and not even a fan of this team.
Nothing you say has any semblance of intelligence.
You are Richocrap.
That’s about all.
And when the Raiders climb out of this crap hole that they’ve resided in for 6 plus years (and trust me – they will), I will crap on you Richonuts. . . .you, MaddenRaider & fools like you.
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Except, foolish child, that I’ve been DEAD ON ACCURATE on everything I’ve said about the Raiders.
You? Dead wrong on everything you’ve said about the Raiders.
From Al Davis, to Russell, to Bey, to Kelly, to Walker, to your o line, to your D line, to Cable..DEAD ON ACCURATE.
Yes, yes, I know..as stated, it “stings” that you got your sorryass handed to you on a platter..where all of your silly sorry stupid predictions went the total reverse of what YOU stated would happen, and in fact, was exactly as I stated.
And now? You’re finding it tough to digest the crow you’ve been served, lol.
Tough…deal with it.
Oh..and that moment of “when the Raiders climb out of this crap hole”?? Gosh, Silver-N-Whining..any idea which DECADE that might be?
October 26th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
LA to TheBay Says:
October 26th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
”
We need real misfits and outcasts back on this team. Not divas and guys with evrything handed to them.”
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LA:
Maybe now you understand why I, and a few others, want a guy like Justin Fargas featured on this team.
For months. . .hell, years. . . .I’ve listened to Raider fans gloat about “talent”. . .about guys like D-Mac & Bush, etc.
And I get so sick and tired of it. As I’ve said over and over. . .give me 22 Justin Fargas’s and I’ll give you superbowls.
This team has its share of talented guys.
It has its share of good, quality guys.
What id does NOT have is enough guys that are made of grit & determination.
That’s what Fargas is all about, and it’s about time Raider Nation wakes up and realizes that THIS is they type of football player we need more of.
October 26th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
LA to TheBay,
I hear your pain. Very good points~~~
I’m also from the LA area that is a season ticket holder. I got up at 4am yesterday…drove to to Oakland in time for some tailgating…and then only to be disappointed once more. After a long day drive back to LA and to arrive at 10:30pm…only to get up this morning and ask myself, “is it worth it”. I’m begining to think “it’s not”. I’m really second guessing next year.
October 26th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
Richochet Says:
October 25th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
9er Guy Says:
October 25th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
How did the 49ers go from winning the first few games in the start of the season to losing every game since?
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Simple.
When you play a team who’s vastly over rated, who’s win’s came against teams that were total garbage, which gave the 49ers the impression that they’re 3 wins we’re admirable, instead of hardly earned.
And then they played teams who’s not vastly over rated.
Quite simple, actually.
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This post is on the money! Kudos to Ricochet. Let ‘em have it bruh!
October 26th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
Richonuts says:
Yes, yes, I know..as stated, it “stings” that you got your sorryass handed to you on a platter
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The above statement illustrates, exactly, why you are an ass-whipe.
You say that I got my ass handed to me on a platter? In other words “I” being a Raider fan.
And what does that make you exactly?
If “I” the “Raider fan” got my ass handed to me on a platter, what exactly are you?
I’ll tell you what you are. You’re a worthless pile of crap.
In your ignorance, you just (for once and for all) illustrated for us all, that you are anything BUT a Raider fan.
If you were, you wouldn’t make an asinine comment like that.
And oh by the way, you’re DAMNED RIGHT I hurt when the Raiders lose.
October 26th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
I like Fargas as a no 2 of course we would need a no 1 rb but we have problems everywhere no fire and are we that bad at wr or is it the qb play . How many whiffs on 1# drafts when a bust LT who is a solid guard is you’re best 1rd since Nhamdi
wow. Gallery,Huff,Mcfadden,DHB, wow . So glad DHB was in that pro-style O in college cause he sure picked up the pro game fast.
October 26th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
“That’s what Fargas is all about, and it’s about time Raider Nation wakes up and realizes that THIS is they type of football player we need more of”
I agree completely. That’s why I mention guys like James Harrison.
And all week I said start Fargas. The only bright spot out of the Sunday debacle I can think of is that Fargas ran well and ran hard.
Hopefully its starting to sink in woth these guys. Like Fargas said “you can’t spot ‘em 14 points,” and that’s essentially what Russell did.
He is responsible for the two drive starts at his own 4 yard line. Yeah, Barnes is a joke at RT and he got hammered on that play, but as a QB, you have to have the clock and you must get rid of the ball. The 1st INT I have absolutely no explanation for. Even if there was no defender there, it would have been 5 yeards short of Miller.
The guy makes unbelievable passes and the guy makes unbelievable passes, if that makes sense.
He needs to be consistent and his time is running out.
For the Raiders to salvage the season, they must compete in the remainder of their games.
I don’t care if they go 0-9, if they show up in every game and have the other team knowing they played in a football game and can go to sleep at night knowing they tried as hard as they could, the season is salvageable.
Short of that, we’re awaiting next year’s debacle.
October 26th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
Anyone want to bet that Al Davis goes for the uncapped year. Per Florio, JaMarcus’s cap hit and money due next year can be reduced from 15 mil to 3 mil, and AD can admit his mistake and cut Russell. If I was JR, I’d be saving up some of that unearned money.
October 26th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
Al’s approach of trying to slap a bunch of pieces together and hope for the best has got to friggin stop.
We need an identity. Are we an offensive team (Saints, Colts) or are we a defensive team (Ravens, Bears, Steelers)?
No more hiring a 3-4 defensive coordinator to run a 4-3 scheme. No more signing DTs and trying to play them at DE. No more trading for zone coverage DBs and trying to fit them into a predominantly man coverage scheme. No more signing noodle armed vets like Garcia and asking them to run a vertical offense. No more hiring buffoons and asking them to coach the team.
Al Davis acts like a kid that has ADHD. Just stop the madness! Hire a head coach that can run his own offensive and defensive schemes, hire coordinators accordingly and let him have input as to what KINDS of players he needs to run that scheme.
No more defensive coordinators that claim to be Defensive Head Coach!
Put a little stock in college production, work ethic and personality when it comes to the draft. Don’t draft the kid that couldn’t catch in college to be a WR. Don’t draft the kid that people said didn’t have the drive to be an NFL QB. (Insert your own McFadden trait if you so feel the need….but remember, you will pay lol).
Draft some guys that have heart and are students of the game instead of guys that look good on youtube.
Stop ignoring the DTs and o-line in the draft.
Find a new medical staff.
Stop giving losers like Walker and Hall huge deals.
Come on damn it!
October 26th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
Canadian Raider fan here. I’ve followed the team since the 93′ season when I got the fluke chance as a 12-year-old at first-row 50 yard-line tickets to the regular season game against the Bills in Buffalo.
I was a HUGE Hostetler fan, and the combination of him coming to the Raiders that year, as well as “Rocket” Ismail who began his career for my home town Argos made my afiliation an easy one. I went to Buffalo that day with 8 fathers and sons, and there was randomly a single pair that was right behind the Raiders bench. Seeing “Hoss”, the “Rocket”, Tim Brown and Al right in front of my eyes was amazing.
Obviously the majority of my time as a Raider fan hasn’t been a great one with only 1 SB appearance, and recently some of the most frustrating teams to ever watch (and this coming from a Toronto Maple Leaf fan).
However, with all that being said I am still an Al backer, and will take on any of those who are not. I am a HUGE fantasy football participant and have to defend the Raiders daily on the message boards. At least most of you here are ALL Raider fans, with just differing opinions on the team separating you.
October 26th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
Hey Richonuts:
So it only took Alex Smith 3 1/2 -4 years to put together 1 half of good football.
Congratulations on a great draft pick.
Hey Richonuts:
Where’s your Niners’ #1 draft pick from last year?
Oh yeah, that’s right – he’s on the bench doing nothing.
I can go on. . . just tell me when you’ve had enough.
October 26th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
Richonuts:
Simple question for you:
Do you actually believe that you know more football than Al Davis?
Simple yes or no answer will suffice.
The man has made his share of bad mistakes, but, anybody in here who answers YES to that question is a moron.
Actually, you are a moron, so I already have my answer I guess.
October 26th, 2009 at 1:43 pm
Russell needs to learn that, as the QB, you are responsible for the offense. You are the leader and, therefore, have to accept the blame as well as the accolades. I’d have trouble with his statements even if he did play well in spite of the rest of the offense. But that isn’t even the case. He didn’t play well. So his comments are even more troubling.
Man, I have a REAL hard time with his statement about Watkins. You don’t throw your receivers under the bus like that. What’s going on in Russell’s dome? He needs to be smacked around. Someone needs to grab him by his helmet grill and rip him a new one.
October 26th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
posting too fast. lmfao
Kiffin having a bad week too:
BIRMINGHAM, Ala. (AP)—Tennessee coach Lane Kiffin has been reprimanded by the Southeastern Conference for criticizing officials who worked the Volunteers’ game against Alabama.
Commissioner Mike Slive said on Monday in a statement released by the league that Kiffin violated the Southeastern Conference code of ethics.
Kiffin complained Sunday that officials failed to penalize Alabama’s Terrence Cody for unsportsmanlike conduct when the defensive lineman removed and threw his helmet after blocking a field goal on the last play of Alabama’s 12-10 victory Saturday.
This is the second time the SEC has reprimanded Kiffin.
Slive said further violations of SEC policies by Kiffin will subject the coach to additional penalties, including suspension.
October 26th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
Zach Miller on JaMarcus Russell: “Hopefully it will fire him up so then it doesn’t happen again, that he’ll work that much harder.”
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A recurring theme indeed. He’s a fat, lazy, loser who doesn’t give a damn. He’s stealing money, and Al’s an idiot for letting him do it.
October 26th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
Dakota.
Amen.
October 26th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
This team needs leaders and all it has is a bunch of projects and guys like Zach Miller who would shine anywhere else.
October 26th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
Dakota says:
We need an identity. Are we an offensive team (Saints, Colts) or are we a defensive team (Ravens, Bears, Steelers)?
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Dakota:
Well said. We absolutely lack any identity at all. I thought we had one last year. It was clear that we do one thing really well, and that is run the ball.
So what do we do, drive after drive? Open with a play-action fake. Guess what? The play action does nothing when you don’t actually run the ball with any consistency.
The Jets’ game plan yesterday was exactly the Marty-Ball type of game plan we should be employing EVERY single Sunday until JaMarcus proves he’s ready for more.
Theh Jets learned their lesson last week. They let Sanchez lose the game for them and they learned quickly that he’s not ready yet. So they realized they run the ball well and stuck to it.
If the Raiders stuck to their running game, they may still lose more games than they win right now, but, I guarantee you we’d be in every game.
You don’t go down 21-0 ten minutes into a ball game when you commit to a run game.
October 26th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
Here is my opinion on the franchise…
Al is his own worst enemy and we all know how he likes to draft. He wants to hit the home-run every time, instead of hitting a single the other way. Evidence of this can be seen with Nnam, Schilens, Miller…
This drafting style comes with its risks obviously because talent alone doesn’t win in the NFL.
What is happening to the Raiders this year shouldn’t surprise anyone. They didn’t throw a tonne of money at anyone, just brought in veteran gus like Greg Ellis to try and help the young players on the team develop. They are starting 2 rookie wr’s with now Todd Watkins #3 until Chaz comes back.
Yah, should Al have drafted more conservatively in recent years? For sure! However, Gallery hasn’t worked out, before him Stinchcomb didn’t work out. Gallery coming out of school was as much a prospect as Ryan Clady. I can’t blame AD for taking McFadden over him based on what happened with Gallery (I think he is a great guard, and a guy we can win with but still has to be considered a relative bust as a #2 overall pick).
October 26th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
In JaMarcus’ defense…
Yes his work ethic seems to suck. Yes he has had a brutal season. Yes it bothers me that he hasn’t accepted any blame for the team’s problems in his comments to the media.
That being said since he’s been here he hasn’t really had the opportunity to be successful. No QB in the league that doesn’t have natural scrambling ability would be able to be successful on this team right now. Jamarcus is under pressure virtually ever snap. He’s throwing to basically 3 rookie wr’s as starters right now who are all still learning how to play in the nfl.
The combination of the solid running game and wr play that was present at the end of last season (Schilens/Higgins) is gone. The O-Line is a joke, especially with Gallery not in there.
Yesterday I saw 2 QB’s have horrific games who are considered “elite” players in the league.
Eli Manning and Matt Ryan, who going into yesterday were sacked less than 5 times combined I believe turned the ball over 5 times and completed less than 50% of their passes. They both were under constant pressure and didn’t get much production from there running game. This is the exact set of circumstances that JaMarcus has had his entire career.
I am not sold on JaMarcus in a good or bad way. However, I can’t judge him based on this team right now. When he developed chemistry with wr’s, had a solid running game and decent O-Line play (last 6 games of last season) he completed about 65% of his passes and threw 6 TD’s against 2 or 2 INT’s I believe.
I will not judge him as a player entirely until he is in a position to be successful.
October 26th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
Dakota Says:
October 26th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
Offseason plan:
Trade for Kolb, hire Fassell (best we can hope for), draft o-line and LBs, sign the best NT on the market, get DHB a hand transplant.
^^^^^^^First things first…..Al Davis needs to take a back seat and hire people like Holmgren, Bruce Allen, Cowher, Parcells, Gruden to turn this ship around!
Trade for Vick or Kolb to be the QB next year!
It won’t happen though….because Al Davis doesn’t listen to the fans or care what they think.
Do you know how many fans called the Raiders headquarters and office in Alameda and demanded Jon Gruden be hired! Trust me…the phones were ringing off the freakin hook over there and did Al Davis listen??
Probably not….because he doesn’t care about the Raider Nation of fans!
October 26th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
Firing Cable now will NOT matter one bit. Only thing that should be done now as far as a coaching standpoint is Tollner needs to call the plays.
The person who needs to go away who has making stupid decisions last six years is the freakin OWNER/MEDDLING OWNER/GM/PERSONNEL MAN/DRAFT DAY DECISION MAKER/FOOTBALL OPERATIONS/HEAD OF SCOUTING/WANNABE COACH/WANNABE DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR/DICTATOR/WANNABE EMPEROR FROM STAR WARS…..
The stubborn old senile delusional man himself Al Davis!!!
He needs to give up on making all the day to day football decisions of this organization…..one and for all!! Or this team will NEVER get better! NEVER!
The last move the old man should make this year is trading for Michael Vick or trading for Kevin Kolb! They would be cheaper and better than any other QB we have now. Then at the end of the season hire Holmgren as the GM/PERSONNEL MAN.
Then Holmgren should hire Bruce Allen as the capologist and then Holmgren should hire Jon Gruden as coach or Cowher and let them do their thing and exercise all the losing demons this franchise has all over them! Gruden or Cowher would probably work wonders with Vick or Kolb as their QB.
Thats the only way things will turn around for the Raiders franchise…..PERIOD….END OF STORY!!
Realize it morons!
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