Raiders live chat on Tuesday at noon
By Jon Becker
Monday, October 26th, 2009 at 8:25 pm in Live chats, Oakland Raiders.
Where do the Raiders need to improve on most? Join us here for a Raiders live chat on Tuesday at noon PDT as Jerry McDonald analyzes where the team goes from here following their dismal performance against the New York Jets.
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October 26th, 2009 at 8:25 pm
BFD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Screw your ‘Live Chat” and this FKD up bootsy blog!
JaMarshmallow is a hot piece of smelly garbage! I cant wait till week 8 to call him a BUST!
October 26th, 2009 at 8:26 pm
You guys defending Russell are the worst.
THE GUY SUCKS. He will never be an NFL QB. He doesn’t make reads fast enough, can’t feel the rush, can’t lead the team, and has a stupid haircut.
The haircut alone would be enough to get him cut from my team.
Jerry, FIX THIS BLOG!
October 26th, 2009 at 8:30 pm
not exactly defending jr, but know there isn’t much behind him. might as well throw frye in there next.
October 26th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
So you cant checkdown from the correct formation or the wrong one? Good job Jhill, you have joined priest & his left tit Oakglenn.
Jerry can we see about giving these tits sweaters ?
“In one breath Cable says the QB has the wrong formation. Then he goes to the QB should have checked down, lol!”
October 26th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
“Maybe I shouldn’t put the offense in that situation on the 10-yard line to start the game, you know, trying to throw four verticals,” Cable said. “But I want to be more aggressive, I think that’s an important part of it.”
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4 verticals ????
Like Russell said, their was no time for a checkdown.
Idiot ass Cable!
In one breath Cable says the QB has the wrong formation. Then he goes to the QB should have checked down, lol!
Hey Cable! Your boy Barnes got pancaked by Pace and was on #2 in a second.
“The first play of the game is going to haunt me,” Barnes said. “I’m just going to have nightmares over that one. That’s unacceptable.”
Maybe you shouldn’t put the offense in that postion to start the game?????
YA THINK !!!!!
October 26th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
Boo-frickin-hoo!
Go Raiders!!
October 26th, 2009 at 8:33 pm
still expect to see many l.a./so-cal raider fans in sd next gm. my guess 15-20k strong, not like our chuckie yrs. when we owned the murph, outnumbering those suckers in their own yard.
October 26th, 2009 at 8:34 pm
I’ll repost for some who care to read …
# Terrapin Says:
October 26th, 2009 at 8:32 pm
Let be real here. Gradkowski aint gonna lead this franchise anywhere. Anybody promoting him to start is just fooling themselves. Really fooling themselves.
10-19 for 97yds …he can’t do any worse than Russell? Sht that “IS” Russell …darn near 50% completion and piss poor production for darn near a whole 4Qs. And how long has Gradkowski been in the league?
Puuuhlezze!
Face it. The Raiders have to see this through and hope it all turns around. But the longer this goes on that hope becomes lost. If nothing shows itself then look for a replacement in the offseason.
Bring in Gradkowski in the 2Q, Cable basically told the team he gave up. And the defense got progressively worse. It was a bad move by Cable. Period! He made the move and ended up getting shut out at home – 0pt! Even if they would have loss anyway, would you rather lose 38-14 or 38-0? At least the former has some semblance of respect. But you make the move EARLY in the game and your offense gets shut out at home. Brilliant!
The playcalling – terrible – too many deep patterns – not enough quick stuff to mix it up. Not enough sticking with the run. Cable is aggressive which is great, but damn he has to realize his team isn’t there yet.
October 26th, 2009 at 8:34 pm
i hate the chargers. damn the foreskins suck!
October 26th, 2009 at 8:38 pm
i think was, stl, tb, cle, kc are just as bad. we’ll find out who’s the worst, we play was, cle, kc, still.
October 26th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
Terrapin,
Nobody is going to lead this franchise anywhere! The point ISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS Russell needs to have the sh!t kicked out of him until he “gets it” or he needs to go back to Alabammy and spend the remainder of his $ on bling & bbq. The kid needs a wakeup call!
October 26th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
Henderson and Gallery are the only offensive linemen worth a damn.
You mofos complaining about Russell fumblitis have a very valid point; but man you have got to pay attention to that offensive line too and how they are contributing to a lot of it.
Russell fumble near the goal line …check down where …that ball was coming out no matter what …he had no chance. If you look at it closely HE WAS CHECKING DOWN!!!! NO chance to even do that.
And that 1st INT …blitzer coming free ..who else but Barnes not picking it up.
JR sucked but so did the rest of the team.
October 26th, 2009 at 8:40 pm
Terrapin Says:
October 26th, 2009 at 8:34 pm
I’ll repost for some who care to read …
October 26th, 2009 at 8:43 pm
AL really FK’d up not bringing in a vet WR like Toomer to show these youngsters how to practice, watch film, and play. They are lost out there and what is supposed to be their leader is a pitiful excuse of a ungrateful millionaire “bonafide” reject of a Qb.
The end.
October 26th, 2009 at 8:44 pm
Mistabrown Says:
October 26th, 2009 at 8:31 pm
So you cant checkdown from the correct formation or the wrong one?
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More evidence of your utter lack of football knowledge. Why don’t you just get back to practicing your comedy routine and enjoying the demise of this team.
WTF is that question YOU ask even asking?
So you can’t checkdown from the right formation? Sure you can
or the wrong one? I guess.
Not quite sure what any of that has to do with the point. Let me help you, lol!
Do you understand what Cable meant by calling 4 vertical routes?
Can you tell me which one of those 4 vertical routes was the “quick before Barnes gets pancaked” checkdown?
How long does it take for a vertical checkdown route to develop, lol!
October 26th, 2009 at 8:44 pm
Check down where. The guy was on him so fast he couldnt even check down when he wanted to.
He was checkin’ down. Damn thats bad. If you can’t even check down before a defender is on your asz.
Henderson and Gallery are the only linemen worth a damn. That right side and middle is like a jail break.
(Satele, Carlisle, Green are backups elsewhere ….Carl obviously lost a step)
October 26th, 2009 at 8:47 pm
Hello Raider Fans, we are at a cross-roads…..
This is a Fletcher Christian kind of cross-roads.
Not an easy decision, but almost as plain as your hand in front of your face.
Mutiny, plain and simple as that, confront the fact that Al Davis is incapable to Captain the ship anymore and you have to quit acting like good little soldiers anymore in order to be true and honest Raider fans.
YOU have to be part of the movement that actively removes him from the seat of power. Quit buying his tickets, quit making him successful, quit defending his obviously deluded orders.
It’s over…HE is the “root cause” of the problem.
It hurts…but it’s the truth, no pain – no gain, it’s rock-bottom and not getting better, face it.
I’m no MR, but I am a Raider fan deserving more than I am getting from the status quo.
TIME TO CHANGE THE STATUS QUO!!!
Fight back and change it like Lyle Alzado, Romanoski, Hendricks, Tatum, Hayes, Haynes, Stabler, Matuszak, and every other good Raider would do…say this is wrong and not stand for it!!!
October 26th, 2009 at 8:48 pm
Can someone please tell me who #2, or #5 for that matter is suppossed to check the ball down to when the receivers are all running vertical patterns because the coach wants to be aggressive?
Is #2 or #5 supposed to anticipate the RT getting PANCAKED and the DE jumping right over him in less than 2 seconds? When ALL the receivers are running vertical routes?
At what point do you start going through progressions with ALL 4 receivers running vertical routes? 3 seconds? At least 3, right?
Cable is an idiot!
October 26th, 2009 at 8:48 pm
Cable is trying to for from A to C without taking any intermediate steps. I think that much is clear.
He has to look at himself and realize you can’t have it all NOW. Slow this sht down before you lose everything. Run the damn ball. Shorten the routes. Get your offense in a rhythm.
October 26th, 2009 at 8:51 pm
Cable is so lost, it’s pathetic.
Cable benched #2 because he saw another coach do it on ESPN, lol.
The same way he copied the timeout right before the FG move.
Cable is CLEARLY grasping for straws as he circles the drain.
He knows he shouldn’t call that play with the QB and WRs we have, but a big fat F it, he wants to be aggressive?????
Is that acceptable to you guys?
CMON!
October 26th, 2009 at 8:52 pm
check out the nfl.com game highlights ….you’ll see clearly that he had no shot at even checking down (which he tried to do) on that fumbled play …what a dayum shame …guy was on him in less than 3secs …and of course very few ppl pay attn to that
October 26th, 2009 at 8:53 pm
You answered my question, thanks!
“So you can’t checkdown from the right formation? Sure you can
or the wrong one? I guess”
October 26th, 2009 at 8:53 pm
Cable is a retard, anybody with half a brain can see he’s handycapping this team with his as he says aggressive playcalling. This line these WR’s and this QB are not ready for this. Yet week in week out he keeps putting them in this suituation and then blaming the QB if he can’t chicken salad outta chicken excrement. These guy’s are learning and it aint pretty but to make the QB the fallguy is weak. The entire thing wreaks………………..period
October 26th, 2009 at 8:56 pm
BS, what we lack is a playcaller who knows what his team can and cannot do. And what’s worse who should do it.
Loook at the poor Redskins, they’re struggling badly becaue they don’t have playmakers. And neither do we.
October 26th, 2009 at 8:56 pm
this won’t be fixed by better check downs!!!
we lack FOOTBALL TALENT and FOOTBALL PLAYERS!!!
Our guys don’t know how to win or know what it takes to win.
Time for a complete overhaul…face it.
October 26th, 2009 at 8:58 pm
priesttj Says:
October 26th, 2009 at 8:53 pm
Cable is a retard,
That’s not what you
said last year buttholeprik 
October 26th, 2009 at 8:59 pm
and we lack a coaching staff
October 26th, 2009 at 8:59 pm
do you seriously think that a couple of different play-calls or different check-downs would have avoided a 38 to NOTHING beatdown?
Have you ever been on the field of play?
This organization is in serious need of a re-org!!
October 26th, 2009 at 9:02 pm
Yeah Priest throw Cable under the bus in your effort to make excuses for JaDumbell. Poor Black Moses eh Priest, you had such HIGH hopes for him but he is a waste a complete utter disaster!
October 26th, 2009 at 9:04 pm
I agree with all the people who are down on Cable.
However, I don’t care if you resurrected Bill Walsh as the HC, RUSSELL SUCKS!
RUSSELL WILL SUCK NO MATTER WHO THE COACH IS!
38-14 is more respectable? What did you see that made you think Russell would get 14 points?
Was it the fumble, the 1st pick when no Raider was around, or the absolute garbage throw to the endzone to a covered WR that ended in a pick when it was 1st f’n down?!
October 26th, 2009 at 9:04 pm
Jhill if your going to make the following statement you better be ready to defend it.
“In one breath Cable says the QB has the wrong formation. Then he goes to the QB should have checked down, lol!”
What does 1 have to do with the other? Thats why I asked you if we could check down from both wrong or right formations. All you wanna do is ask me further questions…..WTF is wrong with you?
October 26th, 2009 at 9:06 pm
There is no playbook, there is no game-plan or game-planning.
This club is run by lunacy and chaos and it shows up on the field week in and week out.
I could do a better job and that’s not an empty statement…this is an easy standard to exceed.
Pathetic…Pathetic….Pathetic…heads should roll!
October 26th, 2009 at 9:06 pm
Look at Eli Manning the past two weeks. SB MVP and a so-called “elite” QB barely completes half his passes, and turns the ball over 5 times.
This because he doesn’t have much of a running game for 2 weeks (Bradshaw HAS been giving them big plays), and his O-Line is missing a guy for the first time in over 2 seasons.
This kind of running game and O-Line play is JaMarcus’ reality EVERY WEEK.
Barnes got run over in 2 seconds and JaMarcus was on his way to a check down (WAITING FOR RUSSELL TO GET IN FRONT OF THE O-LINE) and he gets sacked before this can even happen.
He didn’t even have time to dump it in front of the O-Line!!!
C’Mon people…
October 26th, 2009 at 9:07 pm
Thats not what he said 3 months ago!!!! Forget last year!
Even during pre-season priest was swallowing Cables goo!
He’s a fraud and a loon……period
# Trolls 35 Raiders 0 Says:
October 26th, 2009 at 8:58 pm
priesttj Says:
October 26th, 2009 at 8:53 pm
Cable is a retard,
That’s not what you
said last year buttholeprik 
October 26th, 2009 at 9:07 pm
this web-site is almost a replica of the poor execution shown by our Raiders!
October 26th, 2009 at 9:08 pm
Terrapin’s right he was trying to check it and he got hit before he could. Bad play call and bad execution………..period
October 26th, 2009 at 9:08 pm
Bad HC + Bad QB = 2 ugly wins and 5 UGLY losses.
Both of these guys need to go.
1 Bad Owner + 1 Bad HC + 1 Bad QB + Multiple Wasted Draft Picks = 2009 Oakland Raiders
October 26th, 2009 at 9:09 pm
Priest is going to spend the next 3 years blaming Cable for Russell being a BUST!
Mark my words.
October 26th, 2009 at 9:11 pm
out …peace
Russell is better than Gradkowski – period!
It was a dumb move to bench Russell in the 2Q ..result ..0pts! – period!
Benching Russell then coming right out with Gradkowski trying to throw a deep bomb was dumb – period!
Cable better straighten this sht up or he’s going to be outta here faster than the gingerbread man – period!
October 26th, 2009 at 9:13 pm
Remember Priest saying Kiffin needed to take the training wheels off Russell AND LET THIS BRILLIANT KID PLAY QB!!!! HE’S HOLDING BLACK MOSES BACK!!!!
LMAO….Cable turns the kid loose like priest wanted now Priest calls him a “retard”.
October 26th, 2009 at 9:13 pm
Cmon Mista,
If you want to talk, let’s talk, but I’m not for the BS. If you want to play your Jameatball games, you have plenty of takers.
Cable is a bad coach, IMO.
I’ve said a million times that the QB is not playing well. What’s YOUR problem?
What is the point of Cable saying that the QB had the team in the wrong formation? What does that have to do with the turnover? Is he simply throwing the QB under the bus? Well why would the dumb ass coach not call timeout himself if the play is headed down the tubes? We are only on the 10 yd line?
What is the point of him saying the QB should have checked it down? Other than him trying to justify the benching, of course. Are you REALLY trying to tell me that the QB had time to evaluate 4 vertical routes before Pace got to him? Impossible.
Check down?!?!! 7 step drop, with 4 vertical routes, with a blown block by the RT?
LMFAO!
What Cable SHOULD have said IF ANYTHING was the QB should have done a better job of recognizing the blown assignment from the RT and tucked the ball away.
Or simply what he said today – Maybe I shouldn’t have put the offense in that position to start the game.
October 26th, 2009 at 9:13 pm
What I said last year and what I see this year are two different things FOOL. The man is putting his team in bad situations every week. That’s what I see NOW!!
As soon as that stops, I’ll stop saying it GET IT!!
October 26th, 2009 at 9:13 pm
Priest how many times were you on local radio screaming like a loon for Kiffin to “LET THAT KID PLAY”?
1235986877 times?
Priest let me ask another question..
How many times on this blog did you say Kiffin was holding this KID back take the training wheels off AND LET HIM PLAY?
4582848595 times?
Priest, now you’re calling Cable a retard for taking off the training wheels and letting hm play?
Priest, whos the actual retard ?
October 26th, 2009 at 9:14 pm
I
thought that buttholeprik 
had pull with the rader 
brass 
He 
probably put the bug in greasy al’s 
ear to hire Cable 
and to draft JR 
October 26th, 2009 at 9:14 pm
October 26th, 2009 at 9:11 pm
out …peace
Russell is better than Gradkowski – period!
It was a dumb move to bench Russell in the 2Q
October 26th, 2009 at 9:17 pm
# priesttj Says:
October 26th, 2009 at 9:13 pm
What I said last year and what I see this year are two different things FOOL. The man is putting his team in bad situations every week. That’s what I see NOW!!
As soon as that stops, I’ll stop saying it GET IT!!
Are you
saying 
that you 
got F-O-O-L-E-D by Barney Rubble 
October 26th, 2009 at 9:17 pm
I’m with you I’d like to see some balance where we do what we do well and not what we don’t. Show me a WR on this team that you like that is starting right now?
No QB in his right mind would take either one. But Russell is stuck with all 3 unproductive WR’s who routinely drop passes. What QB would go out to play confident in these guy’s? NO ONE!!
October 26th, 2009 at 9:18 pm
Clean house…from the Head Coach down!
Instill a GM…let him hire a staff…evaluate talent piece by piece…draft accordingly.
And distract Al Davis with shiny Silver and Black things while all this goes on.
This from a live long Davis admirer.
October 26th, 2009 at 9:18 pm
“Mistabrown Says:
October 26th, 2009 at 9:13 pm
Remember Priest saying Kiffin needed to take the training wheels off Russell AND LET THIS BRILLIANT KID PLAY QB!!!! HE’S HOLDING BLACK MOSES BACK!!!!
LMAO….Cable turns the kid loose like priest wanted now Priest calls him a “retard”.”
I hear you but let’s just see some balance. Not short throws every time like what Kiffin wanted. not play-action bombs every time like we have.
Joe Flacco has a CANNON arm also yet RAY RICE IS THE LEADING RECEIVER ON THE TEAM!!!
Balance, that’s all i’m asking for…
October 26th, 2009 at 9:20 pm
I forgot to add 5 Bad Offensive Lineman into the above equation.
Saying Russell is better than Grad and 38-14 is better than 38-0 is like saying the gas chamber is better than the electric chair.
F’N 38-14 is more respectable than 38-0? That is the dumbest sht I have ever heard.
October 26th, 2009 at 9:20 pm
YYZ, im not defending Cable or his play calling I’m pointing out to priest what a two-faced talking out both sides of his mouth & ass he is.
Is YYZ a reference to Rush ?
October 26th, 2009 at 9:22 pm
Trolls is killin me!!!
haha
October 26th, 2009 at 9:24 pm
RaiderYYZ, Explain that again to SistaBrown so she can read it. Just repost 15 times she’s slow.
October 26th, 2009 at 9:24 pm
# Mistabrown Says:
October 26th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
Priest you were in love with Kiffin and then you turned on him!
You had a bromance with Cable as recently as pre-season now you want to toss him aside…..yet I’ve never heard you mention how AL is FK’ up your beloved Raidahs, why?
Same old buttholeprik
Every blog I 
have confronted him 
on he 
has always tried to convince the other posters how smart 
he 
is. Only to have him 
come back at some point and eat his words 
October 26th, 2009 at 9:24 pm
Benching Russell then coming right out with Gradkowski trying to throw a deep bomb was dumb – period!
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Exactly!
I mean CMON! If that play call RIGHT THERE didn’t tell you guys all you need to know about this Cable guy, then his own words should.
He’s TELLING you that he knew better than to run that play, but he wants to be aggressive, so fugg it!
Someone tell me HOW this approach is supposed to help ANY of the young players develop? Just keep running it fellas, we’re almost there. Vertical routes will be open, just look at the Giants. Is THAT the plan?!?!?!
October 26th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
Priest you were in love with Kiffin and then you turned on him!
You had a bromance with Cable as recently as pre-season now you want to toss him aside…..yet I’ve never heard you mention how AL is FK’ up your beloved Raidahs, why?
October 26th, 2009 at 9:31 pm
Has the fat moron Cable been fired yet?
Fire Cable!!
October 26th, 2009 at 9:31 pm
Jhill, relax bro! I talked to Jerry he’s going to get matching sweaters for you, priest and oak!
You’re going to match!!! Like triplets!
October 26th, 2009 at 9:31 pm
“Mistabrown Says:
October 26th, 2009 at 9:20 pm
YYZ, im not defending Cable or his play calling I’m pointing out to priest what a two-faced talking out both sides of his mouth & ass he is.
Is YYZ a reference to Rush?”
well I don’t know anything about priest. I’m just saying he probably thinks the same way as I do. I wanted more than Kiffin offered also, but less than we’re getting with cable.
Look at the Eagles game tonight. We blitzed the heck out of them and exposed something. What does Andy Reid do? First 3 passes the ball was out in less than 2 seconds…. THAT’S PLAY CALLING.
Tale a shot downfield AFTER establishing some underneath stuff. Take a shot downfield AFTER establishing some running. That’s what teams do. Every good run, ever good short pass the safeties creep up a little. That’s when DHB should get single coverage and be able to beat a guys downfield. I dunno… Play-action first play of the game MAY work if you have Adrian peterson or MJD, but not with teh way we’ve been running.
In terms of YYZ it’s a reference to an airport, which is what the Rush song is a reference to, which is a reference to where they are from, which is where I am from.
I see Geddy Lee driving around all the time.
October 26th, 2009 at 9:31 pm
75,
I think you post a lot of good stuff.
My question to you is like Gallery under Shell, how can we judge ANY of our young players under the circumstances of this year?
Every indication since he became HC was that Cable was going to turn Russell loose. Be damned if he’s ready, we are ready for him to be ready!
Cable told you his play all summer. Garcia confirmed it, and said what everyone knew, that #2 was NOT ready for this. Everyone and their mother knows that Bush/McFadden/Fargas should be running the shyt out of the ball. Not Kiffin like 90/10 ratios, but probably 60/40 run like we were doing the last 6 games of last year.
Even Al said more Bush and McFadden and power running is what we should expect to see. Where is it?!?!?!?
Last week, Fargas says it was good to get back to what we do, running the ball and passing off of the run. That’s what we do, that’s who we are.
Really?
“Maybe I shouldn’t put the offense in that situation on the 10-yard line to start the game, you know, trying to throw four verticals,” Cable said. “But I want to be more aggressive, I think that’s an important part of it.”
October 26th, 2009 at 9:32 pm
# Mistabrown Says:
October 26th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
Priest you were in love with Kiffin and then you turned on him!
You had a bromance with Cable as recently as pre-season now you want to toss him aside…..yet I’ve never heard you mention how AL is FK’ up your beloved Raidahs, why?
AMEN brother
T-E-S-T-E-F-Y 
October 26th, 2009 at 9:32 pm
jhill said it best about the playcall. why would u call 4 vertical routes with no intermediate and checkdown patterns mixed in to protect your qb? it wasnt like we needed a hail mary to win the game. why wouldnt he run right off the bat knowing kris jenkins was out of the game? he said he wanted to catch the jets by surprise but for what? that was the prime time to establish the run early and control the clock being down just 1 score. the jets werent going to get away from who they are but cable has. this team has no identity cuz cable took it away.
October 26th, 2009 at 9:33 pm
YOU guys are killing me!
We don’t suck because of what he said.
We don’t suck because of what one guy did.
We don’t suck because of what one guy didn’t do.
We suck…because we suck…and we SUCK BIG TIME!
What do you think of that? instead of who most causes us to suck?
If all you care about is which draft pick or playcall makes us suck…then YOU suck…because you don’t see what’s going on.
October 26th, 2009 at 9:33 pm
being at the game we saw the db giving a huge cushion to dhb with curls hooks whatever underneath waiting to be exploited, what do we do, just keep sending him out deep right into the coverage. ive heard several analysts and announcers say they dont like the scheme theyre using. just watch teams play off of heybey and instead of adjusting the routes to the coverage we run right to it. now whose fault is that? cable cant continue this bs, he has to go.
October 26th, 2009 at 9:34 pm
# Mistabrown Says:
October 26th, 2009 at 9:31 pm
Jhill, relax bro! I talked to Jerry he’s going to get matching sweaters for you, priest and oak!
You’re going to match!!! Like triplets!
GAWD!!!! That must have been one ugly mama to give birth to those triplets
October 26th, 2009 at 9:35 pm
mista come on man u know thats an easy excuse. i believe al does his share of bullsheit but cable is the one calling the o plays.
October 26th, 2009 at 9:35 pm
Al Davis is polishing up a nickel and throwing it to us while pretending it’s a quarter.
We have no NFL calibre coaching…and rookies at every skill position and a bunch of polished nickels on defense.
Asomugha is a sell-out shill as far am I’m concerned because he stays here and says nothing and takes 14 million. I’d rather compete for a Super Bowl and take 7 million because that’s what the real pay-off is for REAL football players. Never seen him win a game for us, might as well trade him for a couple of new players, real GM’s would too.
October 26th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
Toss him aside? No just stop killing your own team.
Playcalling is as much an art as any skill player learning his skill. It takes a lot pf experience and knowledge about your own team and the opponent. What to call and when to call based on the momentum and strengths of your opponent. If you don’t have a handle on that you can cause your own team to be exposed to unnecessary pressure. That is what I’m seeing in Cable he just doesn’t understand when and what to call. Because he believes every play he calls should work whenever he calls it.
October 26th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
Yea I know YYZ is the Toronto Airport and the reason for the song title..
What does Geddy drive ?
October 26th, 2009 at 9:37 pm
Jhill
buttholeprik 
oak 
MAMA
October 26th, 2009 at 9:38 pm
Maybe AL made Cable call that play! And then Cable had to face the media and own it like the dumb chump that he is!
Just a thought..
# armond Says:
October 26th, 2009 at 9:32 pm
jhill said it best about the playcall. why would u call 4 vertical routes with no intermediate and checkdown patterns mixed in to protect your qb? it wasnt like we needed a hail mary to win the game. why wouldnt he run right off the bat knowing kris jenkins was out of the game? he said he wanted to catch the jets by surprise but for what? that was the prime time to establish the run early and control the clock being down just 1 score. the jets werent going to get away from who they are but cable has. this team has no identity cuz cable took it away.
October 26th, 2009 at 9:39 pm
Haha!! the word SUCK, encompasses everything doesn’t it. No need for analysis. Whew!
October 26th, 2009 at 9:39 pm
Why am I posting from the past?!
Jerry,
Tell the talking monkeys you work with to fix this site.
October 26th, 2009 at 9:40 pm
priesttj Says:
October 26th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
Toss him aside? No just stop killing your own team.
Playcalling is as much an art as any skill player learning his skill. It takes a lot pf experience and knowledge about your own team and the opponent. What to call and when to call based on the momentum and strengths of your opponent. If you don’t have a handle on that you can cause your own team to be exposed to unnecessary pressure. That is what I’m seeing in Cable he just doesn’t understand when and what to call. Because he believes every play he calls should work whenever he calls it.
————————————
So what are you saying? Keep him because he sucks but will get better?
or
Keep him so we can keep on sucking because he has no talent for play-calling?
Man, you really play it both ways.
October 26th, 2009 at 9:42 pm
I guess you are right RDT.
We suck because we suck, and as long as we continue to suck, we will suck.
Got it!
October 26th, 2009 at 9:43 pm
“Playcalling is as much an art as any skill player learning his skill. It takes a lot pf experience and knowledge about your own team and the opponent.:
Sounds to me
that buttholeprik 
is lobbying to be greasy al’s 
next flunky 
errr….I 
mean coach 
October 26th, 2009 at 9:43 pm
Sorry Jhill, but there isn’t too much evidence to the contrary.
I think you see it and know that.
The key is what to do about it, and what to do about it is going to have to be extreme.
October 26th, 2009 at 9:43 pm
What difeerence does it make who calls the Plays….if the Superstar #1 Overall Pick can’t even recognize what formation he is in????????????
You had to have a QB to build the franchise around…that was your argument to justify picking Russell……he SUCKS……He Ain’t it…..Start over…get rid of him now….Period
October 26th, 2009 at 9:44 pm
i want to add that I like cable. I just don’t like him as a play-caler.
There have been many successful coaches that don’t call plays and that’s what I want to see done with him.
He’s proven to be a good O-Line coach and now that it isn’t a focus for him the O-Line sucks. 2007 was a good year for our O-Line…
Al Davis is not going anywhere and the Raiders have ALWAYS been a players team. It’s never been coached by hard-asses… Cable is a life-long Raider fan. He understands Davis, knows his role.
Somethings in life can’t be changed. AD still drafted Nnam. Still drafted Zach Miller. Still drafted Gallery who is a pro-Bowl calibre guard at least not a total bust. Tyvon branch looks good. Schilens in the 7th looks lik a steal if he comes back from injury. Morrison and Howard are solid. After missing on Gallery (from a #2 overall LT perspective), Stinchcomb, McQuistan, Grove) he got scared away from OL. That’s my biggest personell issue.
It’s not ALL BAD though. AD has his faults but he’s not going anywhere. Cable is the best guy for this team. We just need some balance on offense and time.
Anyone oyt there name a SINGLE QB in the history off football that put up good numbers with basically 3 rook wr’s, and a bad O-Line. I can’t think of a single one with that combination
October 26th, 2009 at 9:44 pm
i used to play fastball with Geddy Lee. He had a helluva insurance policy if he got hurt doing it.
October 26th, 2009 at 9:45 pm
Now I post in the future!
Talking Monkey AKA IT guy,
Fix this site! It can’t be that hard. Do your job, of they will replace you a smarter talking monkey AKA Space Monkey.
October 26th, 2009 at 9:45 pm
What difference does it make who calls the Plays….if the Superstar #1 Overall Pick can’t even recognize what formation he is in????????????
You had to have a QB to build the franchise around…that was your argument to justify picking Russell……he SUCKS……He Ain’t it…..Start over…get rid of him now….Period
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This Blog fits the Raiders…it can’t getanything right either….
October 26th, 2009 at 9:47 pm
POST#75 SAYS IT ALL FOR ME.
October 26th, 2009 at 9:48 pm
*of: or.
October 26th, 2009 at 9:48 pm
jamarcus does need an attitude adjustment. he hasnt owned up to anything and he did give a cocky ass smile in that one interview like he knows he has nothing to worry about. like that old saying” a fool and his money are soon departed.” he better understand that what u have today can be gone 2morrow. he is looked upon as a joke and if he dont straighten up all of this mini celebrity will vanish. when one of his teammates whips his azz he’ll see what i mean. makes no sense to have all of this ability and be so nonchalant about it.
October 26th, 2009 at 9:48 pm
It’s actually post#76 by YYZ
October 26th, 2009 at 9:50 pm
“Mistabrown Says:
October 26th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
Yea I know YYZ is the Toronto Airport and the reason for the song title..
What does Geddy drive ?”
Mercedes E-Class coupe.
October 26th, 2009 at 9:51 pm
# priesttj Says:
October 26th, 2009 at 9:47 pm
POST#75 SAYS IT ALL FOR ME.
So
You 
are saying that greasy al 
should remove himself 
from the big picture 
October 26th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
bottom line is al davis shouldve had a better infrastucture to bring russell along. hackett or a quality qb coach shouldve been here his first year in 07.needed to be better at getting a veteran qb and shouldve done much better than leslie and so on last year at wr. walker is ready mentally and physically to play but we wont dont use him. we spite our qb just to punish walker? cable even admitted hes ready to play but we dont get him on the field enuff to get in a rhythmn. u cant tell me we need to develope watkins, we have enuff young wrs and when miller and chaz gets back he may get cut. this is just damn ridiculous.
October 26th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
# priesttj Says:
October 26th, 2009 at 9:48 pm
It’s actually post#76 by YYZ
I
thought that this was post 76 
# priesttj Says:
October 26th, 2009 at 9:48 pm
It’s actually post#76 by YYZ
October 26th, 2009 at 9:54 pm
priesttj Says:
October 26th, 2009 at 9:39 pm
Haha!! the word SUCK, encompasses everything doesn’t it. No need for analysis. Whew!
Or you can delude yourself by thinking it all is just a product of bad luck or timing.
October 26th, 2009 at 9:55 pm
# Trolls 35 Raiders 0 Says:
October 26th, 2009 at 9:43 pm
“Playcalling is as much an art as any skill player learning his skill. It takes a lot pf experience and knowledge about your own team and the opponent.:
Sounds to me
that buttholeprik 
is lobbying to be greasy al’s 
next flunky 
errr….I 
mean coach 
October 26th, 2009 at 9:56 pm
Troll you are on it tonight !
Of course priest sets em up and you knock em down lol
October 26th, 2009 at 9:58 pm
When you get blown out regularly it is more likely to be systemic rather than an easily fixable tweak or adjustment.
Why is it so easy for you guys to pretend it is what it isn’t rather than face what is wrong head-on and actually deal with it?
It’s all about the organization that is breeding chaos and disorder. Fix that and stop the ALL the symptoms.
October 26th, 2009 at 9:58 pm
Random no kiddin?
He’s a huge baseball fan I didnt know he played, what position did he play ?
October 26th, 2009 at 9:58 pm
I don’t know Cable, but I do know he can’t call plays and he is NOT a HC at this level.
Fire Cable and the entire coaching staff!!!!!!!!!!
Release a lot of players:
TK & Warren
Green, Cooper, Morris, Barnes, Paul MC, and Pears
Sam Williams, Euk, CJ, Stanford,and Eugene.
Walker, Watkins, and #5
Keep Brown & alston as Backups!
October 26th, 2009 at 10:01 pm
We, the Raiders, are re-defining the word “suck”. We need to stop that immediately and re-define the ability to recover from that and re-establish what it means to be a Raider and not have someone make jokes about it.
Our history is holding us back and we need to break-away from what is history in order to make history again.
October 26th, 2009 at 10:02 pm
Does anyone else else notice how bad the grammar, spelling, and punctuation of Jerry’s posts have become lately? It’s almost as if the poorer the team plays, the poorer Jerry’s proofreading is. Maybe he’s trying to make a point? Or maybe it’s not really Jerry anymore.
hmm….
October 26th, 2009 at 10:02 pm
good teams don’t get beaten by one play!
October 26th, 2009 at 10:06 pm
“Why is it so easy for you guys to pretend it is what it isn’t rather than face what is wrong head-on and actually deal with it?”
sometimes it is about 1 play. it’s football. There are 16 games, not 162 like in baseball, or 82 in the NBA/NFL… Every bad play is magnified 10 times…
I agree lots of issues, but just like an 86-yard TD to Miller brings the team up, a stupid-ass play to start the game causing a fumble and gimmy TD against the defense can bring you down.
October 26th, 2009 at 10:41 pm
Not sure we needed a part 2.
Al Davis, pretty much nuff said…
http://www.raidernationstation.com/exclusives
October 26th, 2009 at 10:44 pm
fellas,I cant explain the last two weeks,we all have our ideas,ways to fix it/cant fix it,etc But, as a season ticket holder,I will continue to tailgate,have fun w/friends and family!And YES,I will see each remaining home game,tickets are paid for,and pull for 500,after the season is over,deal with next year.As they say,see what the future holds here in Oakland,may be short lived,maybe that has been the plan all along
October 26th, 2009 at 10:45 pm
Random Drug Tester Says:
October 26th, 2009 at 10:02 pm
good teams don’t get beaten by one play!
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And last week they DIDN’T!!!
Granted, they took advantage of a sleeping and dinged up Philly team, but still Routt’s TD got called back, they allowed a 4th down conversion, Russell botched 4th down conversion to Louis Murphy ect ect but we still WON!!!
Then U get the completely lopsided phoned in bull **** we witnessed last Sunday.
Entirely all too familiar.
I think having back to back home games after a “win” made them soft…again…
No excuse, just…gross…
Lets see the Raiders involved in a bench clearing brawl. Something to ignite the fury this club so willingly lacks.
October 26th, 2009 at 10:45 pm
Wow. I have been away for a few hours, hanging with some attractive young females, and look at what has happened.
Let’s have a sing-a-long: Since fist-o-brown is in complete meltdown mode, Please sing along to Frosty the Snowman
Mista-a-brain is a snowman
and a fukked up dummass tool
with his fatass gut, and his rotten brain
holy sh**, the dudes a tool…….
October 26th, 2009 at 10:52 pm
Does this mean Socal will get a game on TV this week?
Week 1, MNF. Week 5, Changed to Det/GB at beginning of 3rd quarter. Thats it!
Force fed the Dolts.
I hate the Dolts and their Bandwagon Homers.
They have even stopped all Raider Radio broadcast in Socal this year…WTF?
October 26th, 2009 at 10:52 pm
Random Drug Tester Says:
October 26th, 2009 at 10:02 pm
good teams don’t get beaten by one play!
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RDT, I would disagree with that. What I would say, is good teams don’t get blown out. We get blown out.
October 26th, 2009 at 10:55 pm
# Mistabrown Says:
September 30th, 2009 at 11:08 pm
Lefty,
We say Fargas shouldn’t play unless Bush or Dmac get hurt.
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Last Game Against the Jets
Bush 8 carries 25 yds 3.1 per carry
Fargas 8 carries 67 yds. 8.4 per carry
Another dummasss quote from our favorite tool.
October 26th, 2009 at 10:57 pm
Oakglenn Says:
October 26th, 2009 at 10:45 pm
Wow. I have been away for a few hours, hanging with some attractive young females, and look at what has happened.
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What has happened is a “few young females” shot you down so you had to come back here and hang out on the blog with the rest of us.
October 26th, 2009 at 11:01 pm
# Raiders_83 Says:
October 26th, 2009 at 10:52 pm
Does this mean Socal will get a game on TV this week?
Week 1, MNF. Week 5, Changed to Det/GB at beginning of 3rd quarter. Thats it!
Force fed the Dolts.
I hate the Dolts and their Bandwagon Homers.
They have even stopped all Raider Radio broadcast in Socal this year…WTF?
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Yeah the Dolts will be the team that moves into the new stadium in the City of Industry
. There are no radio broadcasts of the game ever since 97.1 changed format. The Raiders don’t have a radio deal on a national network anymore, so you won’t hear them on many stations. Why is that? Because we suck! If you can get 96.7 out of the Inland Empire, you’re lucky.
October 26th, 2009 at 11:01 pm
No, they are just getting ready. But nice of you to check in Black Cat.
October 26th, 2009 at 11:03 pm
Got to go. Kind of busy. See you all in the AM
October 26th, 2009 at 11:03 pm
At this point why don’t we take a page from The Tuna
Hear me out…
Run the “gimmick offense”
Line up Dmac as QB with Bush next to him, Miller next to him..hell even Fargas next to him.
Mix it up
Let “I finally have more catches than names” run the ball out of the shotgun..
Throw every thing at the defense..wipe those stupid grins off their faces..
At this point what do we have to lose..
Its pretty F’d up when Calahan leaves with a smile on his face
Instead of
1st down: Long ball, inc.
2nd down: Run up the middle for 2 yards
3rd down: Long ball, drop.
4th bring in Shane
Repeat entire season
We do have good some players, but they are not being given the chance to succeed. Mix it UP!
Go Dirtlot, Go Crazy College, Go Raiders!
October 26th, 2009 at 11:13 pm
Gato Negro
Say it ain’t so..
Almost be woth it just to have the Socal nation show up at every Dolt game…that would be classic
Still have my Irwindale Raiders hat from back in the day…just doesn’t sound right
October 26th, 2009 at 11:17 pm
# Raiders_83 Says:
October 26th, 2009 at 11:13 pm
Gato Negro
Say it ain’t so..
Almost be woth it just to have the Socal nation show up at every Dolt game…that would be classic
Still have my Irwindale Raiders hat from back in the day…just doesn’t sound right
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If you haven’t looked at the artist renderings of the new stadium, you should…it looks amazing. I work right next to where this stadium will be built!
The only reason I say it will be the Dolts that move in is because they only have one year extensions on their stadium deal. They need a new stadium badly and could move up to L.A. without any hassle. Unless Al out-maneuvers them, the Chargers will be L.A.’s new team. Count on it!
October 26th, 2009 at 11:35 pm
Last I heard Al still claims LA as HIS.
But..I honestly don’t think any team BUT the Raiders can do well here.
If its the Dolts, at least we won’t have to drive so far and hopefully we won’t get locked out by that stupid “Raider 3 game rule” where in order to keep us out, SD stopped selling single Raider game tix and forced anybody who bought Raider tix to buy 2 more games..what horsecrap! we owned their house until then!
October 27th, 2009 at 12:25 am
# Richochet Says:
October 26th, 2009 at 7:11 pm
YYZ-while we don’t know what is said behind closed doors, it’s a safe bet Cable isn’t telling the faltering qb, who’s dead last in the league, that his play is completely unacceptable, right?
Russell keeps stating he’s “happy with where I am” or “No, I don’t think I did anything wrong” adding “That interception I threw it up, and waited for my WR to make a play”. JR seems to be in total denial.
IF Cable is actually telling him he’s not doing well? Then JR truly has serious problems.
RE: Al’s spending being wrong? And doing things different?
What was wrong wasn’t that he spent money, it was that he spent ridiculous bucks on players who weren’t worth 1/4 of what they received. Correcting the problem isn’t ceasing to improve the team, it’s making better choices on free agents, and paying them what they’re worth.
(of course, as many believe, many players won’t come to the Raiders unless they receive above their market value)
As far as Chucky not calling out players? First off, not saying Cable or any coach need call out a player via the press, ever. What I’m talking about is when a player makes a mistake, the coach is there, in their face, either motivating or kicking ass. Chucky did that, in spades. From Gannon on down. Who can forget the exchanges between Chucky and players coming off the field who made a mistake, especially Gannon. Well documented F bombs exchanged on both sides, with both sides saying “no biggee..we both want the same thing for this team”. Cable never does that. For that matter, it’s hard to recall him actually walking up to any players except after a TD, or a great play. Mistakes? He doesn’t bat an eye. Turnovers? Sits there, ala Shell, staring blankly.
^^^^^^^Agree with you for once…..Gruden used to get in players faces and hold them accountable for mistakes and discipline them!
Cable doesn’t get anyones face (except an assistant coach) and doesn’t hold players accountable for lack of effort or mistakes. He does seem to have that blank stare like Art Shell….no good.
October 27th, 2009 at 12:34 am
# El Gato Negro Says:
October 26th, 2009 at 11:17 pm
# Raiders_83 Says:
October 26th, 2009 at 11:13 pm
Gato Negro
Say it ain’t so..
Almost be woth it just to have the Socal nation show up at every Dolt game…that would be classic
Still have my Irwindale Raiders hat from back in the day…just doesn’t sound right
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If you haven’t looked at the artist renderings of the new stadium, you should…it looks amazing. I work right next to where this stadium will be built!
The only reason I say it will be the Dolts that move in is because they only have one year extensions on their stadium deal. They need a new stadium badly and could move up to L.A. without any hassle. Unless Al out-maneuvers them, the Chargers will be L.A.’s new team. Count on it!
^^^^^^^It’s going to be the Dolts, Raiders or Jaguars who move to LA….with an outside chance of the Niners and Vikes….only IF the Niners don’t get the Santa Clara stadium and IF Minny fumbles and lets another one of their teams move to LA…which I doubt they will allow to happen again.
Whichever team moves to LA…..Roski wants part ownership and I doubt the stubborn old man will sell half to Roski. Unless the old man realizes that moving to LA maybe his only chance to get a new stadium before he dies and that LA stadium will host Super Bowls. If the old man dies, then I can see his son Mark be very willing to deal with Roski without a doubt. IF he is a smart business man that is….
October 27th, 2009 at 12:36 am
It’s not Davis’s fault. It’s the people who support him. It’s his enablers. People like Priest, Oakglenn, and AlisGod(really his screenname, I’m not joking). These guys always tell us not to blame Al, right? Fair enough. Their wish is granted. Instead, I blame them. Don’t blame the alcoholic. Blame the family that puts up with it. So, instead of saying that Al Davis is past his time and has no clue what he’s doing anymore, I’ll say that Oakglenn, Priest, and AlisGod are past their time and don’t know what they’re doing anymore. Leave the Raider nation, guys. Please. so Al will no longer have his enablers, and will be forced to deal with his demons.
October 27th, 2009 at 12:45 am
LA doesn’t want the Raiders. Neither do any of the surrounding suburbs. The only people in LA who want the Raiders are fans that will never go to games anyway (see first Raiders stint in LA). LA is serious about this. They want a team that’s serious about winning and is willing to be a part of LA for the long haul. Al Davis? No way. Al’s staying in Oakland because I don’t think anyone else will take him.
October 27th, 2009 at 12:45 am
The guys defending Al Davis and his stupid unwise decision making and meddling are the WORST!!
What a lousy owner/gm/personnel man/ head of football ops/head of scouting/wannabe DC/wannabe Emperor from the star wars films he is!
He has ruined this franchise!
October 27th, 2009 at 12:50 am
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 27th, 2009 at 12:45 am
LA doesn’t want the Raiders. Neither do any of the surrounding suburbs. The only people in LA who want the Raiders are fans that will never go to games anyway (see first Raiders stint in LA). LA is serious about this. They want a team that’s serious about winning and is willing to be a part of LA for the long haul. Al Davis? No way. Al’s staying in Oakland because I don’t think anyone else will take him.
^^^^^^^Oh I agree….I really don’t think Roski or LA want to deal with Davis….thats why he wants part ownership of whatever team moves there. Only they would want the Raiders is Roski gets control and say over the organization and Davis is out of the picture….if Davis insists on him remaining majority owner and control of everything….Roski will laugh in the old mans face and say F U crazy old man!
October 27th, 2009 at 3:10 am
Raiders_83 Says:
October 26th, 2009 at 11:03 pm
At this point why don’t we take a page from The Tuna
Hear me out…
Run the “gimmick offense”
Line up Dmac as QB with Bush next to him, Miller next to him..hell even Fargas next to him.
Mix it up
Let “I finally have more catches than names” run the ball out of the shotgun..
Throw every thing at the defense..wipe those stupid grins off their faces..
At this point what do we have to lose..
Its pretty F’d up when Calahan leaves with a smile on his face
Instead of
1st down: Long ball, inc.
2nd down: Run up the middle for 2 yards
3rd down: Long ball, drop.
4th bring in Shane
Repeat entire season
We do have good some players, but they are not being given the chance to succeed. Mix it UP!
Go Dirtlot, Go Crazy College, Go Raiders!
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Apparently, this team is too ****ing stupid to run the BASICS let alone any gimmicks but I agree. Turn them the **** loose. NOTHING to lose but more games
At least we might get some excitement on occasion.
October 27th, 2009 at 3:39 am
So all the Cable lovers are finally understanding hiring a OL coach whose HC record in college at mediocre U was 11-35 may not be the next madden . He gives Russell no chance with his playcalling and yes Russell can play way better but some calls you just shake you’re head 2 big fargas runs and 1 for little yrd and we just abandon the run.
October 27th, 2009 at 5:27 am
Morning NATION
I thought he coached at Whats A Matter U.
October 27th, 2009 at 5:58 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
October 27th, 2009 at 6:01 am
gilbert Says:
October 26th, 2009 at 10:44 pm
fellas,I cant explain the last two weeks,we all have our ideas,ways to fix it/cant fix it,etc But, as a season ticket holder,I will continue to tailgate,have fun w/friends and family!And YES,I will see each remaining home game,tickets are paid for,and pull for 500,after the season is over,deal with next year.As they say,see what the future holds here in Oakland,may be short lived,maybe that has been the plan all along
Being a season ticket holder myself, I am right there with you!!! The 4 hour party before the game is where its at!!!
October 27th, 2009 at 6:09 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S.4EVA,HWNDR
October 27th, 2009 at 6:09 am
Good morning Nation the only Nation.
Looking to next year this is what i feel needs to happen.
Reading an article that mentioned, lets start thinking about next year. Well i have although i have not given up this year, and will not until that final whistle blows.
I have thought this for a while, but now it makes more sense then anything else going on. We have lost our identity, witch is a power running team. I don’t blame Cable but that’s just not us this zone blocking scheme is for teams that do not have the running backs we have. Lets go back in time for a bit, who recalls Wheatley, and Garner running through our power blocking O-Line? Now tell me don’t they remind you of Michael Bush and Darren McFadden?.
I don’t think we have the running backs for the zone blocking scheme, we need some power blockers. So i say Gallery, and Super Mario stay the rest of the O-Line goes next season. Putting Gallery and Henderson kind of reminds me of Shell and Upshaw, a little premature i know but hell anything is better then this.
So i say lets allow Cable to coach but we need a power running game, i say enough with this zone blocking crap “sorry for my language lol”.
Man on man no confusion, you got you’re guy i got my guy now find the hole and burst through it. I have said many time McFadden is an instinctive runner with his field vision he finds his own holes, you cant make him be a cut back runner with a slow fullback in front of him. They just block the hole, but put a fullback in there with a power blocking O-Line and look out McFadden will be at the second level juking DB’S in no time. As for Michael Bush well that’s like having 2 fullbacks coming at you, only 1 has the speed to burn you in the open field.
Please bring back the power running game, zone blocking is for line men that cant block man to man. It’s also confusing for the players we have. Power Blocking will also help Jamarcus it will give him a better sense of who is blitzing and who has contain on the outside. “BRING BACK THE POWER BLOCKING”
October 27th, 2009 at 6:31 am
wow. looks like 2 things have transpired
#1 Tom Cable has finally given up on Russell
and
#2 Al Davis played the trump card and Russell will start regardless
“JaMarcus Russell is a talented quarterback. get over it!” – Al Davis
Cable’s hands are tied. I told you guys that JaWalrus would cost Cable, Hackett & Tollner thier jobs…
October 27th, 2009 at 6:37 am
Cable is costing himself his own job, he drafted and signed these so called zone blocking line men. He didnt draft Jmac i agree but he did sign these unproductive line men. I remember people saying no worries Cable will find a gem in the later rounds of the draft. 1 gem Mario Henderson and i still believe thats a Davis pic.
Why bash on Davis cause he gave us Seymour and a good off season. Ok i know the past years he spent money on mediocre players. I dont see DeAngelo Hall talking much right now do you.
This year Al gave us hope but this zone blocking run game has been our downfall.
October 27th, 2009 at 6:40 am
What’s good RR?!?, Dirt lot and they rest of the morning crew, I have nothing to say about that loss, gotta get ready for S.D.
October 27th, 2009 at 6:42 am
Had doubts of that in the beginning, especially since he played well to end the season last year. However, now, I can pretty much agree with you on that one, Rockstar. Another blow out this week by SD heading into the bye…Cable may get the axe! I hope not, but knowing Al…
October 27th, 2009 at 6:42 am
after the Giants pounded us and Antonio Pierce said it felt like a scrimmage we played solid football against the Eagles and beat a much better team than us.
now that the Jets have pounded us 38-0 I hope somebody puts a message on the board. the one by Richard Seymour about “an Oakland high school team would beat us” should do. LOL. maybe we’ll steal a victory against another team that is better than us, but we know all too well.
keep Routt away from Vincent Jackson. no more getting screwed over by the refs (Murphy’s TD catch)
October 27th, 2009 at 6:46 am
*******Question for Jerry*************
Do you ever feel cursed to covering this terrible franchise?
Do you ever get tired of talking about what was in Raider history to create a positive story?
Do you ever feel like over grading the Raiders when they finally get a win?
Do you ever deep, deep down whish you were covering San Diego or even SF?
Do you stay up late at night having nightmares trying to figure out Al Davis’s crazy management strategy?
Do you ever tell your son, “son when or if you make the pros you will never, ever, never play for the Oakland Raiders” and take a stand like Crabtree’s dad?
We gotta know Jerry, we gotta know!
October 27th, 2009 at 6:47 am
r8dr4lfe21: i agree. Cable is not a personnel man.
However, who signed Cornell Green/Cooper Carlisle/Kwame Harris/Erik Pears/Khalif Barnes & traded for Samson Satele?
if give you a hint. it wasn’t Cable …
who drafted Russell, McFadden & Heyward-Bey the past 3 years? that wasn’t Cable either.
I blame Cable for his play calling. he should have ran the ball down the Jets throats and made it a physical football game. Even still, with better players those plays called might have been executed.
this team is not prepared or motivated. Cable can’t seem to shake the losing culture. the players expect to lose each week.
October 27th, 2009 at 6:49 am
Week 8 at we still only have 2 wins. Like I stated earlier in the season…we have to go 2-1 to start, because that will dictate the rest of the season. Well, we started 1-2…where are we now? The team must show fight now throuhout the rest of the season or…we all know what’s up…
October 27th, 2009 at 6:49 am
I hope so they are very deserving of that record from the top to the bottom. I would not blow my money on these clowns if I were a zillionaire!!!!!!!!!!
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DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:
October 27th, 2009 at 6:51 am
WONDER WHAT THE RECORD LOW ATTENDANCE 4 AN NFL GAME IS. IT MAY BE IN REACH WITH THE RAIDER’S UPCOMING SCHEDULE..
October 27th, 2009 at 6:51 am
WONDER WHAT THE RECORD LOW ATTENDANCE 4 AN NFL GAME IS. IT MAY BE IN REACH WITH THE RAIDER’S UPCOMING SCHEDULE..
October 27th, 2009 at 6:53 am
I was hoping for an 8-8 record this year. that is improvement in my book.
even 6 or 7 wins would be. yikes!
to reach 8-8 we’d have to win 6 of our next 9 games.
only winnable games I see left are KC, Washington & Cleveland. 5-11 finish for Cable and another HC search in the offseason (if not sooner)
October 27th, 2009 at 6:54 am
good morning DBW and fellow AM crew members
Gabb, get these boys some fresh coffee, pronto!
October 27th, 2009 at 6:54 am
Well you’re not smarter, but seem to be making more sense at this time. Dont trip though i’am not smarter then a 5th grader lol.
October 27th, 2009 at 6:56 am
Haha! Dirt Lot…
That may be in reach…but hey, we can call it Halloween and our fans are dressed up as empty seats!!!
October 27th, 2009 at 6:56 am
I’ve been saying for 7 years, STOP THE RUN! I don’t think it mattered that JR lost the ball 3 times, if you can’t stop the run NOTHING matters. If they spent all the draft picks for boring Off linemen & D lineman & left the flashy players behind the Raiders would be making names from nobody RBs WRs QBs & TEs!!!!
For 7 years now, if you don’t drft or trade to stop the run nothing & nobody else matters!!!
Am I smarter than Al Davis?!?!?!?!
October 27th, 2009 at 7:00 am
So who is taking the Clippers tonight?
October 27th, 2009 at 7:03 am
Raider TW
You must stop the run and you also have to protect the ball. They are both most important to win a game.
I question our scout team (if we have one) of making the right picks any how.
October 27th, 2009 at 7:04 am
GOOD MORNING CJ, U MUST B PSYCIC…REFERENCED MY POST B4 I POSTED IT. THIS SITE IS IS BAAAAD
October 27th, 2009 at 7:10 am
ask if the time-stamp thingy will be fixed any day this season?
October 27th, 2009 at 7:14 am
All these long posts on how to fix this team. Simple 3 Things in order of importance. You can talk about scheme and coaches and Al Davis and blah blah blah. Its simple and its the only consistent that this franchise has been missing over the past 20 miserable years.
1 Player Accountability
-Cable keeps preaching it but he seems to be one of the only one that has it.
2 Discipline
-As long as a player loves a franchise more so because he can do whatever he wants rather than loving it for winning there will be no light at the end of the tunnel.
3 Better role players
-Ever notice how so many players that have started for the raiders can’t even make other teams roster.
For those of you who know of it its the theory of the power of context. Until the core is taken care of the rest will never fall into place.
October 27th, 2009 at 7:18 am
Good Post TiredFan…
October 27th, 2009 at 7:18 am
So who is taking the Clippers tonight?
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not w/o Blake Griffin!
whats up with Michigan? saw they got some bad press on SportsCenter this mornin’
October 27th, 2009 at 7:19 am
Yeah the Defense played great last week came in all hyped up about it but forgot about staying in their gaps, our defense will never be good on a consistant basis. One week they are disciplined and plays well the next week these guys take bad angles miss tackles and don’t stay in the gaps. The team as a WHOLE IS GARBAGE!!!! Just can’t blame Russell alone everyone shares the blame!
October 27th, 2009 at 7:20 am
Damn good post Tired Fan!
October 27th, 2009 at 7:28 am
3 Better role players
-Ever notice how so many players that have started for the raiders can’t even make other teams roster.
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TF: how about better starters?
Fargas, Satele, Morris, Carlisle & Green should all be backups. Russell isn’t playing like a starter and the rookie WR’s should be able to sit & learn. Walker & Higgins should be starting
on defense, Warren & Eugene are not starter quality and Routt is an awful nickel corner.
I’m not going to sit and blame guys like Frye, Bush, McQuistan, Myers, Lawton, Stewart and L. Walker for our lack of offense.
Not gonna blame guys like Shaughnessy, Bryant, Scott, Williams and Mitchell for our lack of defense either.
nor our ST unit. Higgins hasn’t been the same since his injury and Justin Miller (when healthy) was a much better kick returner than Rankin or Holland. Nick Miller is still hurt. Jano & Lechler are awesome so far this year.
October 27th, 2009 at 7:29 am
TiredFan,
interesting and poignant.
Player Accountability : Hmmm, having a rookie salary cap would make some overpaid players hungrier to admit they need to work hard to stay in the league, otherwise they’d have to find a real job (tough to do when the college resume skirts any education).
Discipline : Many modern athletes have been told from early years that they are the greatest and have been coddled with all praise as they have been allowed to do whatsoever they damn well please without discipline. Discipline comes down to individual awareness and can only accepted by some.
Better Role Players : that’s a problem for many teams, not just Oaktown.
good morning and pass the coffee this way if you please.
October 27th, 2009 at 7:32 am
LMN,
I blame the time-stamp problem on you as your Danish time-zone has upset all of the hamsters running on their wheels which power this blog.
October 27th, 2009 at 7:46 am
Tired–There is a slight problem or two with your ideas. First off Al never makes his players accountable unless he wasn’t in favor of bringing them in. (Gannon was brought in by Gruden and Al never wanted him). Discipline has never really been around since the early 80’s. Al prefers to let his guys run wild and just make plays. The “role players” I do agree with you. There are a bunch of guys on this team that would never make an NFL team or possibly even UFL team. (Lawton, Kelly, Pears, JRussell, Eugene, Huff, Brown). The problem stems from the very top. He is the one who has created this mess. Now he has a fat, dumb, lazy & overpaid QB he is forced to play or admit he made a mistake. Al rarely ever admits any wrong doing.
October 27th, 2009 at 7:51 am
The team is starting to fold.
The key is to hit the ground running.
The offense isn’t capable of stringing together plays because of:
-Poor STU play, drive starts at 19 too much
-Poor coaching
-Puzzling play calling
-Poor offensive line play
-Poor QB play
-Poor WR play
-Zach Miller is being taken away by teams smart enough to do so.
When the offense goes stagnant early, the D strings together several good series.
When they see the offense will never prodeuce, they become morally defeated and they’ve already lost the game.
Then come the missed tackles and the poor gap discipline.
It starts with the offense.
As long as the offense doesn’t turn the ball over and moves the chains, FGs and the occasional lucky TD will allow the Raiders D to keep them hanging around.
October 27th, 2009 at 7:51 am
I think that the Kool-Aid man smashed into a toilette! And not referencing anyone here…OAK…where you at, brother?
October 27th, 2009 at 7:51 am
Yup I can go along with that, and lets not forget we are playing someone big money just to put on a jersey(guess who im talking about) lol if the OWNER HIMSELF talked this guy out of retiring why isn’t he playing now, being that certain WRs drops more balls than Kobe drops 30
October 27th, 2009 at 7:53 am
When they see the offense will never produce*
Morning AM Squad.
Had the coffee, pass the Kool Aid, if there’s any left.
October 27th, 2009 at 7:55 am
i’m out. later fellas
carpe diem!
October 27th, 2009 at 7:55 am
What a mess! I guess Al Davis just likes losing. He is cursed since the days he fired Gruden, and deservedly so. Everything he now touches turns to dust… This team and organization needs a new culture from the top down. We won’t see a better team until the day Al resigns. Until then, we can talk and get furious as much as we want, we will suck. This will never be a good team again as long as Al is around.
As to QB, Russell hasn’t got “it”. Look at Sanchez, a ROOKIE. Yes he played bad the week before, but in the games before the bad one, one could easily see his talent and that he is already better than Russell who is in his 3rd year. Except for a strong arm, Russell has got nothing that makes a good QB in this game. And that is NOT the most important quality required! Kiffin was right, he’s a lazy, fat, disinterested dud. We will never see a good game from him. Or two in a row, or three in a row or like a full season like we see if from the good ones. Maybe he is not the only roster problem but certainly one of them and an expensive one at that. The face of the franchise?? Damn, I don’t want to be associated with that bozo. He will never be my face of the Raiders franchise.
These were the last 10min for me to occupy myself in earnest with the Raiders. Now I’m checking out. Call me when Al is gone. Until then good luck to all of us! We’ll need it….
October 27th, 2009 at 7:58 am
SO WHO IS NEXT (WITH A 5 YEAR RE-BUILD PLAN, ONLY 2 B GONE AFTER 1-1/2-2YRS ) COACH WISE ?
October 27th, 2009 at 8:03 am
DIRT-LOT,
Coach? Look no further than the Raiders current roster of players. Many under contract. As they underperform just remember the adage, “Those who can’t, teach.” Got plenty of coaching material already in the S & B.
October 27th, 2009 at 8:05 am
Lol La to TheBay yes there’s plenty of coffee to go around but the kool aid pitcher is bone dry
October 27th, 2009 at 8:07 am
Lakers Lakers Lakers
October 27th, 2009 at 8:08 am
We have the “best” Qb coach in Paul Hackett right? Didn’t he coach payton and hassleback? I see Russel isn’t developing at all, the reason I say that is, go and youtube this guy at LSU he is doing the same bs like throwing across his body to the middle of the field, he’s throwing off his back foot not planting his feet to deliver the pass, he jumps in the air to throw dump offs lmfao!!! Wow man we can’t correct his habits…….bad habits die hard
October 27th, 2009 at 8:09 am
TRUE THAT M LONETREE. TRUE THAT…
October 27th, 2009 at 8:13 am
Mich lost, and the Buckeyes won! This should help with all this Raider crap!
Go Buckeyes!!! Destroy Mich!
October 27th, 2009 at 8:18 am
LMAO @ 170 & 171!
October 27th, 2009 at 8:19 am
You’d figure getting clowned every day in the media, by your coaches and by the fans would wake Russell up.
His offensive line is terrible.
His WRs are rookies who drop more than they catch
His head coach is calling plays like he’s Peyton Manning.
OK, so now that the excuses are out of the way.
Russell held out. Fine. Get your money, you came to a 2-14 team and you and your agent knew what you were in for. I think we’re a long ways from times when guys were lucky to play, played their @$$es off and sold insurance or used cars in the offseason. But, whatever, fine. This is a new age.
So you held out. Missed camp, had Culpepper to look up to (a guy auditioning for a job elsewhere and so dejected he “retired” at the end of the season) and get a garbage start at the end of the season.
Kiffin, who has been critical of you, declares you starter. You have the offseason to prepare and learn the playbook, which you don’t.
You have a pedestrian 1st half of the season and rather effective as a game manager on a bad team.
You have success near the end, going 3-3 and putting up decent numbers. You and your young WRs are clicking and you’re getting protection.
You know you’re unquestioned starter and you have the whole offseason to get into the best shape of your life, digesting only good carbs and the playbook.
You come in out of shape and put up some of the worst numbers in the history of the game. Fine. It’s a young offense, yada, yada (see above for excuses).
OK, so now that the team has suffered its worst home loss ever, the whole franchise and fan base is reeling, and you have the audacity to shrug it off and blame everyone else?
Even if it wasn’t all on you, or any of it, you are the QB. For better or worse, you are the leader and the face of the franchise.
I stand by my assessments of your talent, but when you sh;t on everyone like that, shrug it off and Cable has to tell us “you understand” why you were benched, you clearly don’t.
October 27th, 2009 at 8:20 am
Russell is salvageable…but it will take a franchise culture transplant to do it.
Strong head coach empowered by the owner to deal with Russell…tough love and motivation…no more making excuses for the turd.
The owner cutting himself off from interacting with the players so much. Russell knows the owner would can Cable before giving up on him…that hierarchy needs to change.
The owner will have to threaten to cut his darling QB in 2010 to force a renegotiation (even Russell’s agent know no other team would give him more than the vet minimum if the Raiders cut him). The renegotiated contract will have to be incentive filled in order to motivate the lazy bastard.
God help us.
October 27th, 2009 at 8:21 am
Raider O Says:
October 27th, 2009 at 8:13 am
Mich lost, and the Buckeyes won! This should help with all this Raider crap!
Go Buckeyes!!! Destroy Mich!
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I am on the IOWA bandwagon baby!!!!!!
October 27th, 2009 at 8:22 am
Damn, I probably just cursed the Hawkeyes!
October 27th, 2009 at 8:24 am
I have felt queasy since Sunday…I had thought it was a case of “The Raiders”, but now I am thinking I have the flu.
Crap.
October 27th, 2009 at 8:27 am
Even God can’t help us now Dakota.
We can’t stop the run!
We can’t run!
We can’t pass!
We have 1 player who can stop the pass: nnamdi!
October 27th, 2009 at 8:32 am
There were seven other QBs on Sunday that looked like busts.
O-line looked good against Philly…change it up.
Quick hits and power run was effective against philly….Hey lets go deep.
These are all coaching decisions.
Russell has not played well but as you see across the bay, the QB can manage what he can manage.
The organization created the scenario were JR cannot be sat down while a veteren runs it for a while.
JR gets taken in the second round he is a project that everyone is screaming for to play.
Bad management and bad coaching……QB is just a player nothing special but not the thing thats killing this team either.
October 27th, 2009 at 8:34 am
Time for school, so I’ll chat with you gents later.
Have a great day Nation, and remember:
The sun will shine at the Nation again. It can’t be this dark forever!
October 27th, 2009 at 8:37 am
Can you guys hear that???? That overwhelming sound of laughter. Yea it’s coming from JaFatslob laughing his big, fat a$$ off every time he collects a game check. If you haven’t figured it out yet I will tell you. JaFatslob doesn’t care one bit. Win, lose whatever. While some of your scrape together money to buy a ticket, a jersey or a ridiculous costume JaFatslob is laughing at your broke a&&. Compare any interview of JaFatslob to any other QB in the league (even Alex Smith). You can tell that JaFatslob doesn’t give a rats a&&. Growing up in a one room log cabin in Alabama JaFatslob never dreamed he would have this kind of easy money. He doesn’t even wanna be hear, but the money is just too good. So wake up people. Nothing is gonna change until Al is gone.
October 27th, 2009 at 8:37 am
whats up with Michigan? saw they got some bad press on SportsCenter this mornin’
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You are confused. Our hockey team continues to dominate.
October 27th, 2009 at 8:38 am
Andrew Bynum turned 22 today….muhahahahaha
October 27th, 2009 at 8:40 am
JR does not make quick reads yet…..coaches will tailor your route tree to accomidate….Ryan just did it with Sanchez.
JR is a slow starter…coaches will call play conservitively especially inside their own 20 yd line early in the game and allow the best punter in football to give us a edge.
Name one QB that came into this league and had success with 1. A bad coach, 2. No running game, 3. A bad offensive line, 4. No veteran WR …?
Can’t and never will.
Sh*t Jason Cambell has more weapons than JR.
October 27th, 2009 at 8:43 am
Way back when in the mists of the Kitten era there was a QB named CPepp in Oaktown. This CPepp was not interested in mentoring a youthful JRuss (CPepp wanted to start for the most dismal franchise in league history in Detroit rather than help a young brutha out), but apparently something CPepp was always good at rubbed off on the current Raiders QB. Yep, you guessed it, fumbling the ball every time a defender comes within arm’s length. Curse you CPepp.
October 27th, 2009 at 8:44 am
Not…feeling good….must go home
cough
cough
PS3 day
October 27th, 2009 at 8:47 am
Dakota Says:
October 27th, 2009 at 8:44 am
Not…feeling good….must go home
cough
cough
PS3 day
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Tuesday’s are always slow at Hillrod Pawn LLC. Call it a day, if you can. I heard your boss is an uptight prick
October 27th, 2009 at 8:51 am
I have never been a JR fan or a JR hater.
I knew the risk of drafting a “project” that high.
Not the kids fault. get paid everyone is doing it.
There was so much wrong with that first play on Sunday that had nothing to do with the QB it made me sick.
There has to be someone that cares enough about the kids future to step up and take some responsibility.
Dan Derdork is ripping the kid and Barnes is sitting on his A** wondering what just happened and this analyst does not even break it down.
Barnes went on to trip Pace from again the
October 27th, 2009 at 8:54 am
Lonetree—You gonna blame Dante Culpepper??? Are you kidding? I blame the public school system in Alabama, LSU and all of his coaches growing up. It’s obvious all of those people gave JaFatslob a free pass wherever he went. The most glaring problem he has is intelligence & lack of work ethic. He has never developed the insides & the smarts to become a real professional. I think if he went through extensive testing he probably has the intelligence of a 4th grader & maturity of a 12 year old. Willing to bet anything that they have had to cut down and simplify the playbook just so he can semi understand things. You combine those thing along with an owner who is senile with a czar complex and presto. Huge Mess.
October 27th, 2009 at 8:59 am
CJ Legend 34 Says:
October 27th, 2009 at 6:46 am
*******Question for Jerry*************
Do you ever feel cursed to covering this terrible franchise?
Do you ever get tired of talking about what was in Raider history to create a positive story?
Do you ever feel like over grading the Raiders when they finally get a win?
Do you ever deep, deep down whish you were covering San Diego or even SF?
Do you stay up late at night having nightmares trying to figure out Al Davis’s crazy management strategy?
Do you ever tell your son, “son when or if you make the pros you will never, ever, never play for the Oakland Raiders” and take a stand like Crabtree’s dad?
We gotta know Jerry, we gotta know!
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CJ?
Are you serious?
Any writer would LOVE to cover the Raiders.
There is a non-stop source of activity, some positive, mostly negative, that is a smorgasbord of info for a writer to pull from.
Dysfunctional organizations are a bonanaza for a writer, especially when you have someone like Al who’s always, I mean ALWAYS doing something/saying something that raises eyebrows.
Imagine the alternative for a writer?
Covering the Colts- “Payton had a great game”…reply from the masses? “yawn”.
“Colts won big”…reply? “what’s new?”
Detroit writers “Lions suck”…reply? “zzzzzzzz…oh..HUH? someone say something? oh..ok…wake me if anything changes….zzzzzz”
Chaos=news=columns=posts.
What’s not to like, lol?
October 27th, 2009 at 9:04 am
wishbone Says:
October 27th, 2009 at 8:54 am
Lonetree—You gonna blame Dante Culpepper??? Are you kidding? I blame the public school system in Alabama, LSU and all of his coaches growing up. It’s obvious all of those people gave JaFatslob a free pass wherever he went. The most glaring problem he has is intelligence & lack of work ethic. He has never developed the insides & the smarts to become a real professional. I think if he went through extensive testing he probably has the intelligence of a 4th grader & maturity of a 12 year old. Willing to bet anything that they have had to cut down and simplify the playbook just so he can semi understand things. You combine those thing along with an owner who is senile with a czar complex and presto. Huge Mess.
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All smack/joking aside…after listening to JR speak, seeing his inability to grasp things, and his replies to how he’s doing up until now?
Is it just me, or does JR seem to be “slow”?
I’m serious.
It seems he’s dead serious when he states ‘oh, it’s not me. do YOU THINK IT’S ME?”
That kind of says alot.
October 27th, 2009 at 9:05 am
Justice rears its lovely head:
A federal judge in NY nullfied a $460K mortgage debt because the bank couldn’t provide any documents to show they were owed the money. The clown bankers wouldn’t renegotiate the loan, so it went to court. Then they lose the whole thing. Hahahahahahaha.
“If you want to take someone’s house away, you’d better make sure you have the right to do it.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/25/business/economy/25gret.html?em
October 27th, 2009 at 9:19 am
I still think that our QB is not helping, but he is not anymore of a problem than 7 other starting QBs in this league week to week.
Coaching is about game planning for your personnel and being successful until someone stops you.
This coach stops our success for us.
October 27th, 2009 at 9:44 am
I think JaMarcus is at the point where from his perspective it’s “him against the world”.
I don’t really care about his comments to the media. Even if he said he played poorly what would that change?
If anything I am happy that despite being labelled as the “biggest bust in NFL history”, or the “worst starting QB in the history of the nfl” by national media outlets he still keeps positive, still keeps his confidence. Is it un-warranted, maybe, but i’d rather have that then him cave at this point…
Bottom 5 offensive lines in the league, 3 rook wr’s he’s throwing to right now, play-calling that requires time in the pocket to be effective.
Big picture people, big picture.
October 27th, 2009 at 9:48 am
Most of you (probably all of you) will disagree with the following assessment of JaMarcus. But, I’ve always had a good read on people’s psyche’s during my life (yeah, laugh away) and this is what I see in this kid:
1. Deep down, he’s a good kid, with a big heart. I don’t mean “big heart” in football terms. I just mean he cares about the people close to him. He’s not a bad guy. He’s not the un-caring loser everyone makes him out to be.
2. He’s very immature. Not immature as in he doesn’t give a crap what anyone says, but, rather – that he is completely overwhelmed by having so much money and having 30 microphones in his face. This doesn’t justify his immature behavior, but, that’s the fact. Deep down, this kid is shy and he was raised as such. It’s as clear as day.
3. With that being said, and despite his 275 pound frame, I think he’s INSECURE AS HELL. That may sound crazy but it’s the truth. When a kid plays as horribly as he did last Sunday and relinquishes all blame and asks “do you think it’s me?”, he’s showing that he’s simply not ready to handle the limelight. Like it or not, it’s a defense mechanism. He knows he’s the reason we lost. But, standing there and admitting it on live TV is embarrassing to him. He doesn’t want to admit that with his buddies ( his “possy”) watching. Is it the right thing to do? Hell no, but, that’s exactly what he’s doing. He’s putting up a shield.
4. Haven’t you all seen someone who’s got too much pride or is too insecure to admit their faults? I see it all the time. That doesn’t make he/she a bad human being. It doesn’t make him/her a loser. And it doesn’t mean that he/she doesn’t care. Those are damning statements to make about someone without knowing them.
Jamarcus does care, but until he grows up some and realizes that you’re more of a man when you admit that you’re wrong, he’ll continue to put up that self-defense shield.
I may be the only human being on earth (besides Al) who thinks he’s going to be a good quarterback. He sucks right now. And he sucks for a multitude of reasons. There is no denying that. The Raiders haven’t made it easy for him – that’s for sure.
And he will NOT become a good QB until he matures as a human being.
I personally think that he WILL do that. Unfortunately, as a Raider fan, I have to watch my team go through this in the meantime.
Sucks, but, I sure as hell ain’t gonna root for another team.
October 27th, 2009 at 9:51 am
Big picture
Every man has his price
2 be happy and upbeat and not care what ANY media outlet says about or how loud the fans boo you…30 million was Jmacs price
October 27th, 2009 at 9:56 am
RaiderYYZ Says:
October 27th, 2009 at 9:44 am
I think JaMarcus is at the point where from his perspective it’s “him against the world”.
I don’t really care about his comments to the media. Even if he said he played poorly what would that change?
If anything I am happy that despite being labelled as the “biggest bust in NFL history”, or the “worst starting QB in the history of the nfl” by national media outlets he still keeps positive, still keeps his confidence. Is it un-warranted, maybe, but i’d rather have that then him cave at this point…
Bottom 5 offensive lines in the league, 3 rook wr’s he’s throwing to right now, play-calling that requires time in the pocket to be effective.
Big picture people, big picture.
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Big picture? You want big picture?
How about a qb who doesn’t get it?
Is that big enough for ya?
A qb who, instead of stating he has LOTS OF WORK TO DO, is stating “hey, I’m happy with how I’m doing”?
A qb, who throws two interceptions, and fumbles away a ball, instead of taking blame, actually blames everyone/anything but HIMSELF?
It’s not an issue of caving. It’s an issue of accepting what you need to do to succeed.
“Even if he said he played poorly, what would that change’? CHANGES A LOT..means he knows that what he’s doing is NOT acceptable. Means he knows that what everyone has been saying, that he needs to “do those extra things to insure his success” is dead on, instead of actually believing it’s everyone else, but not him.
You know..maybe..when he comes off the field? To actually do what EVERY QB DOES..which is seek out the coaches to go over still shots of defensive alignments..talk with the coach about what just happened.
What does JR do? Goes and sits..plops down..as if he can’t be bothered. The assts then have to COME TO HIM to show him alignments.
The moron just got benched..and he DOESN’T KNOW WHY. That’s not confidence, that’s total ignorance and dis-interest. How is it possible to know that last year, AND THIS YEAR, you’re the absolute worst starting qb in the league, and state ‘I’m happy with what I’m doing”??
He should be embarrassed. He should be doing extra. Should be RUNNING LAPS AFTER EVERY PRACTICE to get his fatass in shape..but he doesn’t. He thinks ‘everything is just peachy’
5 years after JR is out of football he’ll still be saying ‘I was fine. I threw it up. Receivers should have gone up for it. Not my fault.”
October 27th, 2009 at 10:03 am
Wishbone,
obviously detecting humor is not your strong suit.
October 27th, 2009 at 10:05 am
Raiders should look at Jason Campbell next year. He is a free agent in 2010 and could be a heck of a qb in the right system.
He could be had for a lot less money than Russell, has better numbers (85 QB rating this year, has had a 3000 yard passing year in 2008), and is more athletic (6′5, 230).
October 27th, 2009 at 10:10 am
Maybe we should hire McNabb ya know…
He could give Jmac a “good talkin 2″ B4 everygame =)
October 27th, 2009 at 10:11 am
I think Jason Campbell sucks. I also think he is 10 times smarter, more responsible, and better prepared than JuanMarcos.
October 27th, 2009 at 10:15 am
Florida Pete Says:
October 26th, 2009 at 9:24 am
JaMarcus will remain the man
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on October 26, 2009 11:29 AM ET
Raiders coach Tom Cable didn’t even have to be asked the question.
JaMarcus Russell remains Oakland’s starting quarterback, despite getting the hook in Sunday’s 38-0 loss to the Jets. After the game, various players took responsibility for their roles in the worst loss in Raiders history. Except Russell.
“I don’t think it’s me personally, I really don’t,” Russell said after the game. “It’s a bad combination of one guy doesn’t do something right one time. Personally, I don’t think so . . . Do you?”
(Yes, and we also just heard the sound of a thousand Raiders fans screaming.)
Russell also asked said he was happy with all his reads and decisions. JaMarcus turned the ball over three times despite throwing only 11 times, one of them being an inexplicable toss to Jets defender Jim Leonhard with no Raider players nearby.
Russell was booed heavily Sunday, but Raiders fans are speaking loudest with their indifference. The paid attendance for Sunday’s loss was the lowest in Oakland since 1968.
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so my questions are:
how do you train a guy who doesn’t think he needs training???
is there any hope for an employee who thinks he has nothing to learn and that you have no authority over him???
what do you say to an employee who screws up royally and refuses to admit he screwed up???
answers:
you can’t…
no…
you’re fired…
October 27th, 2009 at 10:17 am
JuanMarcos!!!!!!
JuanMarcos you MUST PASS the CHIMMY-CHONGA 2 the WR’s…you MUST STOP EATING THEM!!!!
Soo…1 more time from the top…AND
October 27th, 2009 at 10:20 am
RaiderYYZ:
Actually, the first thing Sanchez said after that Buffalo loss was that they lost because of him.
But, as I said in post #193 above, JaMarcus is simply not there yet in his maturation as an adult.
He will be, but, he’s still very much an immature kid.
Like you, I have much hope for him and believe that he will improve as others around him improve and mature.
In the meantime, we’re gonna have to sit here and hear all these guys rip him to shreds.
October 27th, 2009 at 10:21 am
Richochet all i’m saying is I always take comments to the media with a grain of salt.
So much has been put squarly on his shoulders alone which I think is unfair that at this point what is he supposed to do? I didn’t hear Mark Sanchez say anything about playing better after 5 INT’s.
“Seek out coaches instead of the opposite”…
C’mon that’s knit-picking…
If when Schilens comes back and he’s 100%, the line is giving him at least a little time, combined with more time with Murphy & Hey bey and he’s still playing this bad then I will be more critical.
Until then I don’t think the circumstances merit much higher expectations to be honest.
October 27th, 2009 at 10:25 am
So Jerry asks Cable whether Russell should face the media and face up to his mistakes in the game and Cable says: “I think when he’s comfortable enough to do that, mature enough to do that…”!
How old IS Russell, twelve?
October 27th, 2009 at 10:26 am
RaiderYYZ:
Actually, the first thing Sanchez said after that Buffalo loss was that they lost because of him.
But, as I said in post #193 above, JaMarcus is simply not there yet in his maturation as an adult.
He will be, but, he’s still very much an immature kid.
Like you, I have much hope for him and believe that he will improve as others around him improve and mature.
In the meantime, we’re gonna have to sit here and hear all these guys rip him to shreds.
October 27th, 2009 at 10:26 am
Evening Nation, I see the blog is still screwed up.
October 27th, 2009 at 10:27 am
Man, you guys see old Al up in his box? Weekend at Bernies or what?
October 27th, 2009 at 10:28 am
# los raiders de don rober Says:
October 27th, 2009 at 10:27 am
Man, you guys see old Al up in his box? Weekend at Bernies or what?
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I hate to burst your bubble man, but, you ain’t gonna look like Brad Pitt when you’re 80 either.
October 27th, 2009 at 10:30 am
Russell is not the only problem but he’s a BIG problem.
Ist drive-a fumble.
2nd drive-an interception.
3rd drive-an interception.
Then after the game we get Russell arging with the coach and refusing to any kind of responsibility.
Cable probably wants to bench this guy like crazy but Al wants him to play.
October 27th, 2009 at 10:31 am
I know I’m not gonna look good at 80. But man, sad sight of a man that does not know how to let go when everything around him is falling to shreds….
October 27th, 2009 at 10:33 am
I’m tired of “athletic” QBs.
Russell is a project.
Either you
A) Bench him and allow him to develop there
B) Start him and hope he develops on the fly
C) Cut him in an uncapped year and start over
I would say they should restructure his deal as best they can and sit him behind a guy with a chip on his shoulder and who is real hungry (no jokes please, too easy).
Gannon would throw rocks at Gruden’s window at 6 AM to let him in the building. The had to make Gannon a key.
Him and Gruden watched film constantly. Gannon may have been a system QB, and a noodle arm, etc, etc., but the guy had an unmatched work ethic and a chip on his shoulder.
Of course it took a coach with unwaivering faith in him and smarts enough to build a team around him and weed out the malcontents.
Cable looks like he’s trying (in his own words, “I’m just a ball coach, fellas”) but few are responding, at least consistently. And he certainly is not an X’s and O’s guy.
Maybe if you look at it like Cable, Hackett, and co. are trying to coach up young players and instill in them a mindset rather than an Xs and Os approach. They’ll learn under fire and be that much better once they have a real system and some consistency down the road.
Al has to be willing to take a chance again and get a coach who will not only get in the players’ faces, but his own as well.
You don’t have to dump the philosophy/identity entirely. You can keep that intact and play smart, modern football.
October 27th, 2009 at 10:33 am
ya gotta admit though…
Al Davis has the coolest freaking hobby on the planet!!!
October 27th, 2009 at 10:38 am
morning all
…….evening EnglandRaider.
October 27th, 2009 at 10:40 am
Raider 75
The key to what you said is the right system!
We have not had the right system in 5+ years.
It is not just Russel it is the whole system.
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Raider75 Says:
October 27th, 2009 at 10:05 am
Raiders should look at Jason Campbell next year. He is a free agent in 2010 and could be a heck of a qb in the right system.
He could be had for a lot less money than Russell, has better numbers (85 QB rating this year, has had a 3000 yard passing year in 2008), and is more athletic (6′5, 230).
October 27th, 2009 at 10:40 am
Silver-n-Smac Says:
October 27th, 2009 at 9:48 am
But, I’ve always had a good read on people’s psyche’s during my life (yeah, laugh away)
RICHOCHET: Dude,..you ran the “Al is the Raiders. If you don’t accept every idiot thing he does, go support another team”.
I doubt if you have a good read on the Sunday comic page, much less other people’s psyche’s.
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1. Deep down, he’s a good kid, with a big heart. I don’t mean “big heart” in football terms. I just mean he cares about the people close to him. He’s not a bad guy. He’s not the un-caring loser everyone makes him out to be.
RICHOCHET: Huh??? He “likes his buddies”?? Wow. Gosh. Thanks. Well, hell…that sure clears things up, doesn’t it? Yeah, lol..big time grasp on his “psyche”..
Doesn’t EVERYONE care about those “close to them’? What the hell does that have to do with him not giving a damn about his conditioning, or his play? NOTHING..that’s what.
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2. He’s very immature. Not immature as in he doesn’t give a crap what anyone says, but, rather – that he is completely overwhelmed by having so much money and having 30 microphones in his face.
RICHOCHET: Not liking mics has nothing to do with being in love with the buffet table, bling, and being a party animal with his “entourage”. Overwhelmed? WTF??? Guy has mic’s in his face AFTER A GAME..that’s it. All week long and ALL OFFSEASON LONG he can do those extra things to help the team, yet he doesn’t.
Weak ass excuse, as usual, Silver-n-Whine.
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3. With that being said, and despite his 275 pound frame, I think he’s INSECURE AS HELL. That may sound crazy but it’s the truth. When a kid plays as horribly as he did last Sunday and relinquishes all blame and asks “do you think it’s me?”, he’s showing that he’s simply not ready to handle the limelight. Like it or not, it’s a defense mechanism. He knows he’s the reason we lost. But, standing there and admitting it on live TV is embarrassing to him. He doesn’t want to admit that with his buddies ( his “possy”) watching.
RICHOCHET: And YOU are an idiot. Insecure? lol..dude, you have zero grasp of psyche’s. See, someone insecure? They are NEVER happy with how they’re doing, you moron. Insecure people NEVER state “it’s not me” or “I’m happy where I am.” Insecure people usually stay longer on a job, put in extra hours, always thinking they can do something better…because THEY AREN’T SECURE IN WHAT THEY JUST DID. Russell is blase’, not insecure. Russell is “slow”, not insecure. Russell just couldn’t give a damn, and that’s NOT WHAT INSECURE PEOPLE DO. An insecure qb would fret over every miss, fumble, interception.
Russell?? “ho-hum…where’s the bench..my beanie..WHERE’S MY BEANIE??”
And honestly? “possy”?? What’s a possy? Oh, you mean posse..ok, got it.
BTW..that comment about not wanting to admit it to his “friends watching’? ROFLMFAO..wow..arguably the dumbest thing you’ve ever said, and that says a lot.
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Jamarcus does care, but until he grows up some and realizes that you’re more of a man when you admit that you’re wrong, he’ll continue to put up that self-defense shield.
RICHOCHET: Oh stop, lol. JR “cares’? When you come in, ADMITTING YOU’RE OUT OF SHAPE, AND VASTLY OVERWEIGHT..explain how he CARES??? Oh, yeah, he cares that everyone is POINTING OUT HIS BAD PLAY, but doesn’t give one damn about doing anything about it. He CARES that he’s called out for his bad throws, but instead CASTS THE BLAME TO THE REST OF THE TEAM.
He cares that his $150,000 diamond encrusted necklace jersey is centered exactly over his protruding gut when someone pulls out a camera, but doesn’t care enough to get rid of the gut.
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I may be the only human being on earth (besides Al) who thinks he’s going to be a good quarterback. The Raiders haven’t made it easy for him – that’s for sure.
RICHOCHET: Bravo..you now have joined the “blame EVERYONE BUT JR” brigade.
See, that’s exactly what losers do.
Winners? Leaders? They take it upon themselves to make themselves better, and those around them.
Losers always have excuses. Always point the finger elsewhere…you know…like you do.
And Russell.
October 27th, 2009 at 10:48 am
“RICHOCHET: Bravo..you now have joined the “blame EVERYONE BUT JR” brigade.”
I’m spreading the wealth of blame evenly. JaMarcus gets a share. Cable gets a share. The wr’s get a share. The O-LINE gets a share.
Add up all other shares and Jamarcus is still getting more of the blame. Can you henstly say that’s justified?
Last 2 weeks Eli Manning has 5 turnovers, and has completed less than 50% of his passes, Giants are 0-2.
This from 2 weeks of poor O-Line play (this past week first time in over 2 seasons a SINGLE member of O-Line is out), wr’s dropping passes and missing routes.
I’m not comparing JaMarcus to Eli, my point is put Eli on the Raiders and he’s no longer Eli Manning.
I won’t lay total blame on JaMarcus until he actually has a legitimate opportunity to succeed and he is single handedly holding them back, a la what Tavaris Jackson sis for the Vikes.
October 27th, 2009 at 10:49 am
Does anyone want to bet me that Russel goes to another team and wins a back up position as someones project and eventually a starter?
Russel has 4 issues: 1) his wasteline 2) A new coach and scheme every year 3) confidence in this team starting with himself, to the line, to the coaches, to the D. 4) A veteran WR that he count on to get open.
I am not Russel fan but you put the back up in the game and I saw the same garbage play.
October 27th, 2009 at 10:50 am
Los Raiders De Don Rober!
Post 207:
I love Al Davis but that’s funny.
October 27th, 2009 at 10:51 am
Evening Neilb
October 27th, 2009 at 10:51 am
Richocrap:
Everything I said about JaMarcus is accurate. You’re just too stupid to understand human behavior beyond the perfectly logical life in which your spoiled, sorry little ass was raised in. Not everyone sees the world in the “correct” way you ass.
If you don’t believe this kid is insecure, you’re a complete idiot. (which I already know you are)
You can go on and on about his weight. You’re getting no argument here. I agree he needs to weight, not from a mobility standpoint but from a “Hey, look – I do give a damn” standpoint.
He’s plenty mobile enough. He’s more mobile than guys like Aikman or Bledsoe ever were in their entire careers.
I don’t give a rat’s ass about his physique. How good did the Kenny the “snake” look during his great years?
He had a body that resembled a sponge. Do you think anyone gave a crap if he worked out in the gym or not? If you produce, nobody talks. Period. He hasn’t produced. That doesn’t mean he doesn’t care you dumb-ass.
And how can you even begin to comment on what it’s like to have national media scrutiny when the closest thing to being a celebrity that you can relate to is everybody in here knowing you’re the biggest idiot on the internet?
Try again clown.
October 27th, 2009 at 10:52 am
Richochet
None of you guys know this guy so what does it matter? You are not in his head. The results speak for him but you don’t truly know this guys character. He could draw blank in front of a camera, I don’t know this young man and you don’t either.
October 27th, 2009 at 10:53 am
los raiders de don rober Says:
October 27th, 2009 at 10:27 am
Man, you guys see old Al up in his box? Weekend at Bernies or what?
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LMAO..pretty funny stuff.
Anyone ever notice how no one ever sits next to Al? No one talks to him?
Even Otto, who’s a mainstay in the box, always seems to stay just out of reach of Al’s cane.
October 27th, 2009 at 10:54 am
4Eva:
Have McNabb give a pep talk to Russell before every game?
I don’t know…Russell doesn’t really like to put in extra time working on his job.
We could just Russell for McNabb although we’d have to throw in a sweetener-say Fort Knox or the state of Nevada?
October 27th, 2009 at 10:54 am
I do know his game and confidence looks like jello right now.
October 27th, 2009 at 10:56 am
CJ Legend 34 Says:
October 27th, 2009 at 10:54 am
I do know his game and confidence looks like jello right now.
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ask any kid what it’s like when you don’t do your homework… and you show up to the test unprepared…
that’s what Russell’s going through…
and i have very little sympathy for either the kid or for Russell…
October 27th, 2009 at 10:56 am
Neilb:
No didn’t do that Neilb.
Come Sunday, I’ve just got to be watching the Raiders.
You?
October 27th, 2009 at 10:58 am
CJ Legend 34 Says:
October 27th, 2009 at 10:49 am
Does anyone want to bet me that Russel goes to another team and wins a back up position as someones project and eventually a starter?
Russel has 4 issues: 1) his wasteline 2) A new coach and scheme every year 3) confidence in this team starting with himself, to the line, to the coaches, to the D. 4) A veteran WR that he count on to get open.
I am not Russel fan but you put the back up in the game and I saw the same garbage play.
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I’ll take that bet.
NO WAY IN HELL he becomes a starter anywhere else..ever.
Think about it.
You start a new job.
You’re handed a massive bank account, new Maserati, new mansion..IN ADVANCE.
You then are asked to do your best..BUT YOU DECIDE YOU’RE NOT GOING TO. When questioned about why your results are the worst IN THE COMPANY? You reply “not my fault. everyone else’s fault..but not mine”
When asked ‘don’t you think you can do better?” You reply “No, I think I’m doing just fine.”
Now..WHY would someone decide to do elsewhere what he refuses to do for the company that handed him the Golden Ticket?
What’s the bet?
October 27th, 2009 at 10:59 am
England….
did you go to the London game ?
October 27th, 2009 at 11:00 am
Anyone that saw JaMarcus as the reporter “do you think it’s my fault” could see that the kid was nervous and uncomfortable answering questions about his poor play.
That doesn’t make him a loser and it doesn’t mean he doesn’t care.
As I said before, that’s a defense-mechanism from someone who’s simply not mature enough yet to handle things in the “right” way.
When DHB drops passes, there is not nearly the amount of pressure & scrutiny on him that there is with a #1 QB pick in the entire draft. That tag has ruined many a player in the past.
Look at Alex Smith. Great kid. Good work ethic, but, completely folded under that pressure.
Not to mention that he’s just not very good. The half of football that he just played, against a vanilla defense, was the best half of football that kid has EVER played in the NFL.
And here he is, 5 years after being drafted, with the opportunity to revive his career.
JaMarcus has had WAY more positive moments and has shown WAY more potential than Smith ever did.
And here we are, after like 23 starts in the league and people want to give up on him.
Impatience is lame.
And too many people have it thsse days.
October 27th, 2009 at 11:02 am
RaiderYYZ Says:
October 27th, 2009 at 10:48 am
“RICHOCHET: Bravo..you now have joined the “blame EVERYONE BUT JR” brigade.”
I’m spreading the wealth of blame evenly. JaMarcus gets a share. Cable gets a share. The wr’s get a share. The O-LINE gets a share.
Add up all other shares and Jamarcus is still getting more of the blame. Can you henstly say that’s justified?
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Honestly, I can.
When a player is the WORST PLAYER in the NFL, at his position?
When that same player refuses to take any blame?
When that same player refuses to accept responsibility?
When that same player comes into camp out of shape?
When that same player shows up unprepared? As in STILL doesn’t know the whole playbook?
The last comment alone is indicative of the problem. Honestly, can you find a single solid reason that JR didn’t at least LEARN THE PLAYBOOK THIS PAST OFFSEASON?
He sure as hell wasn’t working out, right?
Every position above mentioned came into camp in the best possible shape..except for JR.
Every position mentioned above studied and learned the playbook in their FIRST year..except JR.
Every single position/person mentioned above has clearly accepted responsibility/blame for their mistakes, except JR.
Why give JR a pass?
What has he done to deserve all of this forgiving?
Nothing.
IF HE CAME INTO CAMP IN SHAPE? Don’t you think a lot of the media/fans would cut him some slack?
Or at least puts in the effort to learn the freaking playbook? These two points alone means he shouldn’t be given a pass, period, on anything.
He’s not dedicated. And that fact is very very obvious.
October 27th, 2009 at 11:05 am
JERRY:
I like your writing but your blog sucks.
Questions are being posted BEFORE the question!
You must make a ton of money Jerry, how about fixing the blog?
October 27th, 2009 at 11:05 am
Just my view,but JaMarcus came off the field on Sunday and it looked like he didn’t care.His body language stunk.No talking to coaches,no trying to lift the team,nothing.He sat down and didn’t freaking care.
………and why should he ? He’s got the money,cars,homes,women.Why should he give a damn.
October 27th, 2009 at 11:05 am
I mean answers are being posted before the question!
October 27th, 2009 at 11:06 am
Neilb:
I answered you but it showed up way ahead of your question.
October 27th, 2009 at 11:07 am
# M Lonetree Says:
October 27th, 2009 at 7:32 am
LMN,
I blame the time-stamp problem on you as your Danish time-zone has upset all of the hamsters running on their wheels which power this blog.
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maybe so, but then hire some hamsters from India who understands it… NTP, or Network Time Protocol isnt hi-tec its rather common…
Jerry step up, and ask for new hamsters!!
October 27th, 2009 at 11:09 am
anybody who only has 2 TD’s and a whopping 13 turnovers in 7 games that doesn’t think he’s playing poorly or that he’s a part of the problem is probably just as delusional as the man who drafted him.
October 27th, 2009 at 11:10 am
neilb Says:
October 27th, 2009 at 11:05 am
Just my view,but JaMarcus came off the field on Sunday and it looked like he didn’t care.His body language stunk.No talking to coaches,no trying to lift the team,nothing.He sat down and didn’t freaking care.
………and why should he ? He’s got the money,cars,homes,women.Why should he give a damn.
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Good point.
Did you notice how, prior to being yanked, he would just go sit..by himself…all relaxed?
Then Grab goes in..and NOW JR HAS ON HIS HELMET? Stands there for 15-20 minutes…helmet on..Like “Ok, now I’m ready to play”??
October 27th, 2009 at 11:10 am
Richochet : I think you’re giving Russell too much slack … you forgot to mention that he has missed at least 1 meeting and was late for several others.
he also threw one of his WR’s under the bus recently.
October 27th, 2009 at 11:11 am
JaMarcus Russell = Willie Beaman without the jets.
I don’t claim to know what goes on in his head and I’ve told others they shouldn’t presume to either.
I only know what I see as a fan and someone who’s been around football for a while.
The way he’s responding to the media won’t endear him to his teammates. They’re in the locker room fielding questions about his poor play and he is nowhere to be found. I can only hope hes taped his eyes open and is having a serious coffee-enduced marathon film session with Hackett.
He does have the physical tools to be a great QB. Anyone who argues that just doesn’t see it and that’s fine. He takes time to get into his drop and his footwork is lousy, but when he makes the correct read, plants, and lets it fly, it’s money.
It would seem to me he’s thinking too much and that after a year and a half of being hidden by Kiffin and Cable, then told he’s been given the keys, let er rip, but wait, we’re going to overhaul your mechanics, he’s seriously out of rhthym.
I also think he’s possibly slow, but more likely he’s a guy with ice water in his veins, so he looks indifferent and the game has not slowed down for him.
The bottom line is this: potential means nothing. If he got his head in the right spot, he could tear it up.
Currently, its not and unfortunately, the organization hes in is a mess and his coach is too aggressive in his play calling.
October 27th, 2009 at 11:11 am
The problem with the team really isn’t Cable. You can question his play calling but with a good OC he could be a real good head coach.
The problem is the number 80.
Al Davis is and always will be a football genius but he just can’t do it all any more. No one can do at 80 what they even did at 70. It’s physiologically impossible.
He needs to retire at least 95% and hire a really good GM who has complete authority.
Al, at 80, knows he doesn’t have that long and he wants a winner to go out on.
The way he sees it he can’t afford to wait so he’s taking more gambles than usual.
How else do you explain the draft when we were so desperate for OL and DL players?
October 27th, 2009 at 11:12 am
“Richochet Says:
October 27th, 2009 at 11:10 am
Good point.
Did you notice how, prior to being yanked, he would just go sit..by himself…all relaxed?
Then Grab goes in..and NOW JR HAS ON HIS HELMET? Stands there for 15-20 minutes…helmet on..Like “Ok, now I’m ready to play”??”
He had his helmet on SO HE COULD LISTEN TO THE PLAYS BEING CALLED. Remember that microphone in QB’s helmets? He cared about what was going on in the game. He had a towel in his hand ready to wave to cheer on his team-mates. When DHB dropped the late pass for a TD he was visibly upset.
Richochet, he’s not nearly the bad guy you make him out to be.
October 27th, 2009 at 11:13 am
O.K. – enough negativity man!
Can’t we talk some Raider football around here?
Like real talk about the upcoming game?
Is SD gonna try and run the ball on us even though they suck at it this year?
I know we can’t completely shut Rivers down, so I say we simply do NOT let them run the ball and hope that our corners do enough to get the job done.
Zach always does well against SD and JaMarcus has had some good games against them as well.
I hope the Raiders play with the same fire as week 1. And I hope they learned not to play that stupid soft zone at the end of a game.
October 27th, 2009 at 11:13 am
England….
no I didn’t.After all the bull with the Giants/Phins game I have not bothered since.
October 27th, 2009 at 11:13 am
http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/2009/October/09-nsd-1157.html
Scary, when our friends starting planning to attack us : /
October 27th, 2009 at 11:13 am
It seems like if you cut your comment, and then refresh a couple of times in a row, and then paste your comment, then your post will appear last on the list as it should.
October 27th, 2009 at 11:14 am
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
October 27th, 2009 at 11:06 am
Neilb:
I answered you but it showed up way ahead of your question.
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try this:
1. type comment.
2. ctrl-a (to highlight)
3. ctrl-c (to copy)
4. hit RED X NEXT TO ADDRESS BAR (stops hamsters)
5. hit refresh double-arrow bar
6. after page refreshes hit red x (see above re: hamsters)
7. ctrl-v (to paste comment)
8. hit RED X AGAIN..(stops the hamsters from trying to think outside the “box”)
9. hit “Submit Comment”
Only takes a couple of seconds, and works MOST of the time..not all.
IF it works, please send Haggis ASAP….if not? Never mind
October 27th, 2009 at 11:16 am
Richochet:
Let me ask you something man. You and I attack each other pretty good around here, and as far as I’m concerned, it’s good healthy smack talk and that’s all.
But seriously, I know you’re down on the Raiders. Hell, we’re all down on them. They’ve sucked for a long time now.
But, you must get on this blog because you give a damn about the team, right?
I mean, some Sunday, do you not still get excited to watch Raider ball? Or are you actually watching the game with the hope that they continue to suck so that you can come on here and gloat about being right about this or right about that?
October 27th, 2009 at 11:18 am
Hey LMN!
How’s everything?
Don’t see you on here much anymore.
Did you get married or are the pirates getting too much for you?
October 27th, 2009 at 11:18 am
again just because of this messed up blog…
““Richochet Says:
October 27th, 2009 at 11:10 am
Then Grab goes in..and NOW JR HAS ON HIS HELMET? Stands there for 15-20 minutes…helmet on..Like “Ok, now I’m ready to play”??””
He had his helmet on SO HE COULD LISTEN TO THE PLAYS BEING CALLED. Remember that microphone in QB’s helmets? He cared about what was going on in the game. He had a towel in his hand ready to wave to cheer on his team-mates. When DHB dropped the late pass for a TD he was visibly upset.
Richochet, he’s not nearly the bad guy you make him out to be.
October 27th, 2009 at 11:21 am
# Mistabrown Says:
October 26th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
Terrapin,
Nobody is going to lead this franchise anywhere! The point ISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS Russell needs to have the sh!t kicked out of him until he “gets it” or he needs to go back to Alabammy and spend the remainder of his $ on bling & bbq. The kid needs a wakeup call!
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hahahahahahaha. If there is ANYONE in the UNIVERSE that needs a wakeup call it’s this complete moron named fista-brown.
October 27th, 2009 at 11:21 am
RaiderYYZ Says:
October 27th, 2009 at 11:12 am
“Richochet Says:
October 27th, 2009 at 11:10 am
Good point.
Did you notice how, prior to being yanked, he would just go sit..by himself…all relaxed?
Then Grab goes in..and NOW JR HAS ON HIS HELMET? Stands there for 15-20 minutes…helmet on..Like “Ok, now I’m ready to play”??”
He had his helmet on SO HE COULD LISTEN TO THE PLAYS BEING CALLED. Remember that microphone in QB’s helmets? He cared about what was going on in the game. He had a towel in his hand ready to wave to cheer on his team-mates. When DHB dropped the late pass for a TD he was visibly upset.
Richochet, he’s not nearly the bad guy you make him out to be.
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Actually, that’s incorrect.
Only ONE helmet can receive signals. No more than one. Some teams have just one helmet with the green dot on it, and have had instances where the backup would go in quickly, because of an injury, and had to wait to switch helmets, and had to have players run in the plays, like days of old.
In every other instance? Other teams? The backup, waiting/hoping to go in? Is RIGHT NEXT TO THE GUY CALLING THE PLAYS..in some cases they’re the ones actually calling in the plays, which is the coaches way of keeping them involved, and learning what’s going on.
BTW..I don’t think Jr’s a bad guy, just a spoiled rotten clueless football player who apparently doesn’t have the desire to apply himself.
Isn’t that the real shame?
October 27th, 2009 at 11:24 am
Rich seems like the kind of guy who secretly hopes the Raiders get it right, then when they don’t, he’s able to tell everyone he’s right and they’re a peanut. Feels good personally to play “gotcha,” but still upset the Raiders lost, if they are indeed his team.
He’s either a serious Raider Hater or he’s a seriously jaded Raider fan.
I can’t say I blame him, he’s a sharp guy/gal, just an @$$ in my opinion.
October 27th, 2009 at 11:26 am
the remaining Jamarcus Russell fans need to form a support group.
the 1st step to correcting a problem is to admit that you have a problem.
October 27th, 2009 at 11:27 am
England….
Your passport in order ? IF I win the Euro on Friday you,me,LMN and El Tato are going to San Diego !!
Later….
October 27th, 2009 at 11:27 am
My buddy is just like that.
Oakland native. Ex- DB. Despises Al Davis. Talks sh;t constantly.
But when I watched that Monday Night game with him, he came alive. He was jumping up and down and loved the intensity.
You saw him crawl right back into his shell on the last 2 SD drives. He knew what was coming and became dejected. When the clock hit 0.00, I was watching like, how did we lose that game?
He already twisted one, pouring some Henny and said “you see man, I told you so.”
October 27th, 2009 at 11:27 am
There are no Russell fans…..just idiots that bought his jersey and don’t want to admitt he’s a total BUST!
October 27th, 2009 at 11:29 am
LA to TheBay Says:
October 27th, 2009 at 11:24 am
Rich seems like the kind of guy who secretly hopes the Raiders get it right, then when they don’t, he’s able to tell everyone he’s right and they’re a peanut. Feels good personally to play “gotcha,” but still upset the Raiders lost, if they are indeed his team.
He’s either a serious Raider Hater or he’s a seriously jaded Raider fan.
I can’t say I blame him, he’s a sharp guy/gal, just an @$$ in my opinion.
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ass?
ASS????
Moi’?????
Ok..I can live with that.
October 27th, 2009 at 11:31 am
SilvernSmac, you want to talk next week’s game? Fair enough. The Raiders don’t stand a chance against the Dolts unless Al Davis drives his motorized cart onto the street and gets up ended by about 10 cars.
October 27th, 2009 at 11:34 am
Is SD gonna try and run the ball on us even though they suck at it this year?
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Tomlinson & Sproles have a combined 104 carries for 342 rushing yards & 2 TD’s (both against the Raiders). thats 3.2 yards per carry
the way to beat them:
1 – pressure Rivers
2 – cover Sproles, Gates & Jackson
Fargas & Bush have a combined 110 carries for 408 yards & 2 TD’s (both by Bush – of course). thats 3.7 yards per carry
the way to beat them:
1 – run the ball
2 – no turnovers
October 27th, 2009 at 11:36 am
# ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
October 27th, 2009 at 11:18 am
Hey LMN!
How’s everything?
Don’t see you on here much anymore.
Did you get married or are the pirates getting too much for you?
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everything is good, even with the terr0r threads from an american and canadian citizen…
nope not married =) but i’ve got a new GF and that is much more interesting than talking about how poor a team we got =) LOL
No pirates for me at the moment, and apparently no raiders either, (pun intended)
but I really dont like being here on this blog when its this hard communicating with each other… when i post something its post 8 minutes behind ‘real-time’ its pathetic, my nephews blog works better and he is only 9…
so im only here for hit’n'runs…
October 27th, 2009 at 11:37 am
La Milicia Negra Says:
October 27th, 2009 at 11:13 am
http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/2009/October/09-nsd-1157.html
Scary, when our friends starting planning to attack us : /
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Friends? Maybe they’re YOUR friends Mr. Kaffiyeh, but the rest of the world calls them Jihadis or Terrorists.
Citizenship makes no difference, especially in the U.S. where freedom of association and freedom of/from religion are somewhat the law.
October 27th, 2009 at 11:37 am
later guys. back to work
carpe diem!
October 27th, 2009 at 11:38 am
BSJ…
well we see americans and canadians as our friends, but maybe we should take that thought up to revision..
October 27th, 2009 at 11:38 am
Russell has directed the offense to an unbelievable total offensive point score of 62 compared to the Saints 238.
The only worse scoring offense is SL with 60.
Sure we have other problems on the team but Russell is making them all worse.
The defense is just plain worn out with Russell’s repeated three and out stuff in every game.
After Russell’s first three drives (fumble, interception, interception) you could see that the rest of the team were not trying as hard because they knew what was going to happen when Russell got his hands on the ball again.
October 27th, 2009 at 11:38 am
terrorists. LOL. Bush isn’t president. We don’t have to call everyone a terrorist anymore.
October 27th, 2009 at 11:39 am
“Richochet Says:
October 27th, 2009 at 11:21 am
“Actually, that’s incorrect.
Only ONE helmet can receive signals. No more than one. Some teams have just one helmet with the green dot on it, and have had instances where the backup would go in quickly, because of an injury, and had to wait to switch helmets, and had to have players run in the plays, like days of old.”"
Actually Richochet i’m pretty sure i’m right.
Only one player at a time ON THE FIELD can have a speaker, not the entire team. I don’t know who would be able to actually confirm whether JaMarcus was listening to the plays but pretty sure he was. Even Dan Diedorf said that’s what he was doing during the broadcast…
October 27th, 2009 at 11:39 am
Richonuts says:
try this:
1. type comment.
2. ctrl-a (to highlight)
3. ctrl-c (to copy)
4. hit RED X NEXT TO ADDRESS BAR (stops hamsters)
5. hit refresh double-arrow bar
6. after page refreshes hit red x (see above re: hamsters)
7. ctrl-v (to paste comment)
8. hit RED X AGAIN..(stops the hamsters from trying to think outside the “box”)
9. hit “Submit Comment”
Only takes a couple of seconds, and works MOST of the time..not all.
IF it works, please send Haggis ASAP….if not? Never mind
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O.K., that’s officially the 1st & only time you got me to laugh.
Job well done.
October 27th, 2009 at 11:39 am
Personally, I want to see what Frye can do but we need to bench Russell early in the week and tell someone else to give it a shot.
October 27th, 2009 at 11:40 am
Put JaWalrus through USMC bootcamp in the offseason. If he still can’t play QB, at least he won’t be a fat, undisciplined bust.
October 27th, 2009 at 11:41 am
MR:
We don’t call them terrorists anymore?
What is it? Humanly challenged people?
October 27th, 2009 at 11:42 am
# CJ Legend 34 Says:
October 27th, 2009 at 10:49 am
Does anyone want to bet me that Russel goes to another team and wins a back up position as someones project and eventually a starter?
Russel has 4 issues: 1) his wasteline 2) A new coach and scheme every year 3) confidence in this team starting with himself, to the line, to the coaches, to the D. 4) A veteran WR that he count on to get open.
I am not Russel fan but you put the back up in the game and I saw the same garbage play.
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I’ll take this bet. Russell is overweight, slow to read defenses, telegraphs his throws, has a slow release, has footwork problems, accuracy problems, horrible work ethic, lacks leadership qualities, and can’t even speak freakin english for God’s sake.
He will be on another team next year I’m sure. Because someone out there will think they can do better than Al and make this guy a winner, but then he will be gone.
HE WILL NEVER BE A STARTER ONCE HE LEAVES OAKLAND!
October 27th, 2009 at 11:42 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 27th, 2009 at 11:38 am
terrorists. LOL. Bush isn’t president. We don’t have to call everyone a terrorist anymore.
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Did you read the article clown? They were plotting to blow up a building in Denmark, which qualifies as terrorism.
Sort of what you try to do in this blog. But you’re too weak.
October 27th, 2009 at 11:43 am
What is it with liberals being afraid to call terrorists terrorists?
October 27th, 2009 at 11:44 am
Good for you Bo, but I’m answering Mr’s post.
Lunatics who go around killing people they don’t like are effin terrorists!
October 27th, 2009 at 11:44 am
In order to beat SD, you have to play smart football and call high percentage plays.
They won’t be caught of guard a second time. The reason we almost won the game was managable 3rd down situations (which we converted the fist 5, I believe), and resiliency.
After the early pick and fumble, we continued to battle back and were close enough to not fold.
We outmuscled them physically, a feat we were only able to achieve one other time this season and we got a W out of it.
Again, keys to the game:
-Start well early. No holes to climb out of.
-Run the ball. Keep your D off the field.
-Play action is where Russell is his best.
-Miller Time!!
-Play with heart, play with fire.
Who wants it more?
Commitment to excellence.
Pride and poise.
Just win, baby.
All sound like corny slogans, but they’re all essentially right.
The team that is more poised, focused and plays with more violence, like they want it more, is the team that will just win. Baby.
October 27th, 2009 at 11:44 am
Man this blog sucks!
October 27th, 2009 at 11:44 am
but I really dont like being here on this blog when its this hard communicating with each other… when i post something its post 8 minutes behind ‘real-time’ its pathetic, my nephews blog works better and he is only 9…
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AMEN TO THAT.
October 27th, 2009 at 11:45 am
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
October 27th, 2009 at 11:43 am
What is it with liberals being afraid to call terrorists terrorists?
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I’m a liberal and I brought it up.
October 27th, 2009 at 11:50 am
“Only one player at a time ON THE FIELD can have a speaker, not the entire team. I don’t know who would be able to actually confirm whether JaMarcus was listening to the plays but pretty sure he was. Even Dan Diedorf said that’s what he was doing during the broadcast…”
The 2nd QB has the mic in his helmet. Typically, the 2nd QB does not have his helmet on, as he does not expect to play. That’s why you see most of them with the headset on.
Even Robert Gallery, in street clothing, has the play calls fed to him via microphone.
On MNF, Russell was knocked out of the game briefly. After getting attention on the sideline, he had his helmet on, right on the chalk, ready to get back in.
Whether or not he was ready to play or listening to play calls last Sunday, I have no problems with.
I like that he’s eager to get back into the play, but I would also like to see him talking to his WRs and coach on the sideline. Usually he goes to his spot on the bench, and Grad is pretty much the first one over there, followed typically by the coaches and Frye.
October 27th, 2009 at 11:51 am
If Russell ends up talking with Cable before he hits the bench, it’s usually because Cable initiated it, although occasionally Russell comes to him, for example after the Murphy No-TD.
Cable has also been getting on Russell the last two weeks on the sideline. During the Eagles game, he came out on the field and was pointing out what should have happened on the play.
I must say, that is one thing I’ve seen from Cable recently I like.
He needs to treat SD just like after the NYG game.
“I don’t care what the outcome is, just hit ‘em in the f’ing mouth!”
October 27th, 2009 at 11:52 am
JaDarrenBey is our problem along with cable and al
October 27th, 2009 at 11:53 am
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
October 27th, 2009 at 11:44 am
Good for you Bo, but I’m answering Mr’s post.
Lunatics who go around killing people they don’t like are effin terrorists!
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Lets all pray that MR doesn’t become representative of liberal views or rhetoric. The only phrase that needs to be retired is “War on Terror”. Unless Al Davis uses it as part of a lawsuit against the league.
October 27th, 2009 at 11:56 am
RaiderRockstar says “the remaining Russell fans need to form a support group”! LOL.
Is Al invited?
October 27th, 2009 at 11:57 am
Look, I’ve watched football for 30 years (as have many of you) and I’ve seen many great QB’s go to the bench, BY THEMSELVES and sit down BY THEMSELVES, to cool off, get their minds straight, do whatever they feel they need to do for their own state of mind at that particular moment.
It doesn’t always need to be rah, rah on the sidelines all the time.
Looking at photos on the bench, or discussing every angle of every play with the QB coach is great. But it doesn’t mean you always have to do it to succeed. The camera always goes to Russell right when he goes to the bench. But, there’s also been plenty of shots os him with Hackett & Grad., discussing what just happened.
October 27th, 2009 at 11:59 am
LMN:
Glad to see things are going good.
You’re right. This blog sucks.
You can’t have an argument anymore.
October 27th, 2009 at 11:59 am
I don’t think Cable is an Al puppet at all. I think he respects what Al wants in the big picture. But, he (Cable) is his own man.
I think he’s a blue-collar guy who loves this team, but, is not gonna let any player on this team end his career.
If he is going to get fired, it’s gonna be on his own terms. I don’t think Cable will hesitate to put any guy on this football team on the bench if it’s warranted.
His reluctance to bench Russell has had way more to do with the fact that he clearly is our future and Gradkowski is not.
You have to ask yourself. Would we win a couple more games with Grad? Probably, yes.
But, who gives us the best chance in the long run, a Russell with more experience and maturity? Or a Gradkowski?
Answer: Russell.
And until we know the answer is definitely NOT Russell, you have to stay with this kid until at least 3 actual years of football played on the field.
October 27th, 2009 at 12:00 pm
LB’s coach should be the first to get fired and second has got to be the WR’s coach. Third should be Cable Guy. Let’s bring back Chuckie or try hiring Marty.(not happenning)
October 27th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
Richochet:
Thanks for the advise but I’m like Russell, I don’t want to put in any extra effort.
You do realize that Haggis contains the insides of sheep’s stomach?
October 27th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
That would be advice-can’t blame Jerry for that.
October 27th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
LA:
“I don’t care what the outcome is, just hit ‘em in the f’ing mouth!”
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Hell yeah!
October 27th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
Let’s make a move for Jon Kitna!
October 27th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
Let’s make a move for Donald Hollas!
October 27th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
Rather take Vince Evans!
October 27th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
One time I was driving down the I10 (very slowly)and I saw this sign saying Oak Glen.
So I pulled off to investigate and there snuck into the hills leading off to the mountains of San Berdo is this really nice country little village, trees, greenery and much cleaner air.
The kind of place a man might retire.
Oakglen are you in Oak Glen?
October 27th, 2009 at 12:25 pm
“His reluctance to bench Russell has had way more to do with the fact that he clearly is our future”
I’m
sorry 
October 27th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
Third should be Cable Guy. Let’s bring back Chuckie or try hiring Marty.(not happenning)
288.ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
October 27th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
Richochet:
Thanks for the advise but I’m like Russell, I don’t want to put in any extra effort.
You do realize that Haggis contains the insides of sheep’s stomach?
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True.
My wife is filipina, and I’ve learned to eat first, ask later what it was…in some cases, I’d rather not know.
Ok, a Scotch Pie then..a dozen would be nice. (family from Methil, Fife, so I never pass on a good Scotch pie.)
October 27th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
THEN & NOW: Davis’ world left bad taste in L.A.’s mouth
By Jim McConnell, Staff Writer
Posted: 10/26/2009 11:01:42 PM PDT
Back in the 1980s, I was the assistant sports editor of the Pomona newspaper.
Thus it was one fall day, when the sports editor was away from the desk, that a call was routed to me. The caller identified himself as Al LoCasale. At the time, LoCasale was, by all indications, the No. 2 man in the Los Angeles Raiders organization. His exact title now escapes me. It might have been Grand Poo-bah. Raiders football, and front office, nomenclature is quite bizarre.
So, why was LoCasale calling? He had a complaint. Specifically, it turned out that his boss, Al Davis, had assembled the news clips from our paper for the season to date. After further review, Davis discovered the Rams had received 249 column inches, and the Raiders “only” 235.
LoCasale said that “Mr. Davis was quite disappointed” with our coverage and fully expected little ol’ me to do something about it. Now.
Welcome to Raiders World, where the only reality that counts is that of Al Davis.
No discussion of NFL football in Los Angeles would be complete without mention of Davis. The Raiders called the Coliseum home from 1981 to 1994. They retain a large and loyal fan base in the Southland, despite fleeing L.A. for their native Oakland in 1995 and despite their woeful on-field record in recent years.
It seems many still admire Davis’ renegade approach to football, and business. This admiration comes easy to those who never worked for, or attempted to work with, Davis.
No question, he has accomplished great things. But those accomplishments remind one of the woodsman who leveled a forest to build an exquisite matchbox.
“It’s a lot easier to work with Al once you accept the fact that he’s the Antichrist,” the late John McKay once told me. McKay, who worked alongside Davis when they were both on the USC football staff in the late 1950s, said Al was the same then as he was later on, when the pair knocked heads in the NFL.
“To Al, two’s a crowd,” McKay said.
Davis grew up in Brooklyn, a city much maligned. He gained fame in Oakland, a city even more maligned. Perhaps the geography explains why Davis has always relished the role of the outsider.
Davis’ football roots include the stint at USC and three years on the staff of Sid Gillman with the San Diego Chargers. From there, he took over as head coach of the Oakland Raiders in 1963.
He’s been Mr. Raider ever since, except for a brief period of time in 1966 when he served as commissioner of the AFL. He resisted the merger with the NFL and quit when the majority of AFL owners did not.
While his team now plays in the NFL, you get the feeling he’s never fully accepted the merger. Again, this may help explain his attachment to the rogue image for his Raiders.
A long-simmering dispute with the Alameda-Oakland Coliseum Commission led to Davis pulling up stakes and heading south for the 1982 season. The Rams had abandoned the L.A. Coliseum for Anaheim, and the Raiders slid right in.
It developed that Davis was no more successful, or diplomatic, when dealing the L.A. Coliseum Commission. From the start, it was not a match made in heaven. The NFL, which had voted against Davis’ move to L.A., did little to help him once he got here.
Despite all the drama off the field, on the field the Raiders were winners. They went 8-1 in a strike-shortened 1982 season, and 12-4 in 1983. In the 1983 playoffs, they beat the arch-enemy Pittsburgh Steelers 38-10 in the first round and Seattle 30-14 in the AFC finals. That elevated L.A. to the Super Bowl, where it upset Washington 38-9 to win the NFL title.
It was likely Davis’ most satisfying moment. It was also the highlight to the franchise’s stay in L.A.
The Raiders returned to the playoffs in 1984 and 1985, but lost both times in the first round. The 1986, ‘87, ‘88 and ‘89 teams failed to make the postseason. By then, it was clear that Davis loved a good fight. Unfortunately, most of his fights were non-football-related. They may have improved Davis’ bank account, but they did nothing to improve the Raiders roster. The attention paid to something as trivial as a stack of press clippings took away from things more important, such as acquiring a quality NFL quarterback.
The team had one last hurrah in L.A., though. The 1990 Raiders went 12-4 and beat Cincinnati 20-10 in the first round of the playoffs. What followed, however, turned out to be the signature game for the franchise for the next 20 years – L.A. trekked to Buffalo and lost 51-3 to the Bills.
The Raiders made it back to the playoffs in 1991 and ‘93, but failed to make it back to the Super Bowl either year. A 9-7 season in 1994 closed out the team’s run in L.A.
Davis, never happy dealing with the L.A. Coliseum Commission (or any group that didn’t wear silver and black), was unable to convince anyone else to build a stadium for him. His “Commitment to Excellence” appeared to be more and more an obsession with conflict.
Angelenos may not be all that far removed from the days of the Dons, but L.A. is the showbiz capital of the world. We know a bad actor when we see one.
Nearly every day, thousands of commuters drive past the gravel pit there in Irwindale where Davis was going to build his stately pleasure dome. It’s a fitting monument to a man who cut deep but came up empty.
http://www.pasadenastarnews.com/ci_13647943
October 27th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
“The attention paid (by Al Davis) to something as trivial as a stack of press clippings took away from things more important, such as acquiring a quality NFL quarterback.”
http://www.pasadenastarnews.com/ci_13647943
October 27th, 2009 at 12:35 pm
Gradkowski is a better quarterback than Russell. It’s pretty obvious. Russell is not an NFL quarterback. He doesn’t give a sheet.
October 27th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
LOL. Now Gradkowski’s “the franchise”? LOL. Desperation is so embarrassing, isn’t it?
October 27th, 2009 at 12:41 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER…Is that near Lake Arrowhead???
October 27th, 2009 at 12:42 pm
Let’s get a show of hands…how many of you were cursing Kiffin for not starting Russell in ‘07 in place of McCown? How many of you same people are now cursing Russell, and wishing for Gradkowski to start, when his QB style is a lot more similar to McCown’s than Russell’s?
October 27th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
Richochet:
Family from Fife?
That’s a good thing.
I’ve always believed that all non-Scots are created equa.
There used to be a pub in SF, before the city became strange, called the Edinburgh Castle-up on Geary.
It was founded by a guy called Dougie who was from Aberdeen.
That was a great place to have a drink or a somewhat heated conversation.
October 27th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
4Eva:
Lake Arrowhead? Now there’s a place I’d like to be-or Big Bear, sweet.
No, it’s closer to Yucaipa.
October 27th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
I suspect his name is Glenn, living in Oakhole.
October 27th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
Hey 4Eva:
When you were in the Hemet area did you ever stumble on that place called the OK Corral?
October 27th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
Raiders: Crypt keeper/managing partner Al Davis has forgotten more football than John Madden will ever remember — a fact that makes Davis’ current mismanagement of the once-proud Raiders into stumblebum status all the more perplexing. Is Davis’ draft-day obsession with straight-line speed pathological … or merely childlike? Did former coach Lane Kiffin really deserve the overhead projector treatment? Is Davis still smarting over the AFL-NFL merger? The answers are blowing in the autumn wind. Grade: A (1963-2002), F (2003-present)
Raiders: Tom Cable will not be indicted for allegedly assaulting a former assistant coach. This qualifies as news! It also means that Oakland won’t have to endure the absence of a head coach who was a loser at Idaho (11-35) and is 6-13 since taking over for Kiffin. Lucky Raiders. Grade: F-plus
Raiders: Hard to say. On one hand, speedy first-round pick Darrius Heyward-Bey has just four receptions in seven games; on the other, Oakland stuck it to Bay Area rival San Francisco by drafting Heyward-Bey over Michael Crabtree. On one hand, running back Darren McFadden showed promise as a rookie; on the other, he’s always injured. On one hand, JaMarcus Russell can throw a football 50-plus yards off one knee; on the other, he’s likely to be holding a slice of pizza in his other hand while doing it. Sum it up like this: The Raiders are quite possibly the planet’s only pigskin organization that could make Randy Moss look like a has-been. Grade: D
Raiders: After the Raiders scored 16 points over a three-game span — the third-worst stretch in franchise history — Cable told reporters “That’s not who we are.” Au contraire! Since Cable assumed command of Oakland midway through last season, the Raiders have scored less than 10 points eight times, something that happened to the Raiders six times in the entire decade of the 1970s. No wonder New York Giants linebacker Antonio Pierce likened playing against Oakland to playing in an intrasquad scrimmage. Also, six consecutive seasons of 11 or more losses seems like an intentional middle finger to the NFL’s socialistic draft and revenue-sharing mechanisms. Does Davis hate the House that Rozelle Built that much? Grade: F-minus
Raiders: Tony Dungy advised Michael Vick — Michael Vick! — to avoid them. He was wise to do so. Grade: F-minus
Raiders: “Right now we’re kind of the laughingstock of the NFL.” — Defensive end Greg Ellis, not under the influence of Sodium Pentothal. Grade: B
Raiders: Former NASA moon rocket engineer who now brings a slide rule to HTML programming class. In essence, Redskins West. Unless the Skins are Raiders East. Grade: F-minus
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=hruby/091026&sportCat=nfl
October 27th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
“Oakland hot dogs get a big-time endorsement from Mark Sanchez”
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Oakland-hot-dogs-get-a-big-time-endorsement-from?urn=nfl,198197
October 27th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
jerrymac: I’ve raved about McFadden the last two training camps and before he even got hurt, was starting to wonder if I was simply wrong. Not making impact as a receiver I thought he would. Had some drops, doesn’t break big plays. hard to believe a guy who could do that much damage in the SEC _ the closest thing to the NFL minor leagues _ can be such a non-factor. Tuesday October 27, 2009 12:52 jerrymac
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Dmac is a bust coulda used a D back lineman in that pick.
October 27th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER…
I sure did and have been stumbling sense!!!
Yucaipa…Man thats a town FULL of ice and la coca
October 27th, 2009 at 2:07 pm
1. Contrary to common belief, it was not the AFL that initiated merger talks, but the NFL, fearful that Davis’ “take no prisoners” tactics would seriously reduce its talent base. Dallas Cowboys general manager Tex Schramm secretly contacted AFL owners and asked if they were interested in a merger. The talks were conducted without the knowledge of Davis, the AFL commissioner. By June 8, 1966, the collaborators announced a merger agreement.
2. Long-time sports writer Jerry Magee of the San Diego Union-Tribune wrote: “Al Davis taking over as commissioner was the strongest thing the AFL ever did. He thought the AFL–NFL merger was a detriment to the AFL.”
3. Raiders owner Al Davis won an antitrust lawsuit against the NFL in 1982, based on his contention that the NFL could not prevent franchises from moving, i.e. that Rozelle’s public pledge had no legal standing against an owner who wanted to move his club in defiance of that pledge.
October 27th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
l8ter
October 27th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
Source, Wiki. for 312
The article quoted by MR was not based on fact in certain issues. The L.A. Coliseum Commission agreed to a remodel of the stadium as a condition of moving to L.A. and agreed to have the renovations completed in time for the 1984 Olympics. Did not happen. Whe AD threatened to move back the 1st time, renovations were started and the field was raised and the running track was eliminated. Promised luxury suites never were built. Al made the deal with Irwindale which approached Tom Flores. Not wanting to be lied to again, Al insisted on a non-refundable deposit. The County of L.A. refused to give the land for the parking lots and the project was scuttled. There was the Hollywood Park proposal next to the Forum but the NFL interferred. Al went back to Oakland only because he had been lied too. That is the facts. He does not have to give up ownership of the Raiders for the new L.A. Stadium just like Jerry Buss did not give up the Lakers for the Staples Center (built by Roski). Just 5%
October 27th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
ExLa, my only real problem with Al Davis is his management of the Raiders. I’ll post articles with a lot of other criticisms of him, that I may or may not disagree with. My point about Al Davis is simple: He’s not qualified to run the football operations of an NFL franchise, and considering Ron Wolf’s biography, I’m really not sure if he ever was. He’s detrimental to the process of the Raiders winning a championship. He has to retire before the Raiders will ever be a winning team again, let alone win a championship. Send e mails to those columnists you disagree with regarding league merger issues. I don’t care.
October 27th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER…
O.K. Corral?? That dive bar on HWY74?
I’ve stopped in for a ice COLD beer or three on occasion, when in the area. Haven’t been there in about three years though.
October 27th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
Further proof of inaccuracy of article.
Los Angeles Times
September 12, 1990
Davis and Spectacor Management Group, the private firm that manages the Los Angeles Coliseum, agreed Monday to a 20-year lease in exchange for a privately financed, $145-million renovation of the Coliseum. This includes stadium improvements the Raiders claimed they were promised when they moved here from Oakland in 1982.
In addition, it is said the Raiders will receive $32 million in advance cash payments from Spectacor and forgiveness of a $10-million debt the team owes the Coliseum Commission.
But with all the fanfare, there is still a catch: The contract could be void in a few years if Spectacor does not produce an environmental impact report allowing the multimillion dollar renovation of the Coliseum and raise the private financing to ,pay for it.
Plans to renovate the 67-year-old Coliseum call for retention of the historic existing exterior walls. The interior, however, will be drastically altered to include the following:
–A reduction in stadium capacity from 92,500 seats to 70,000 for Raider games and 85,000 for USC games. Davis said Tuesday he actually wants only 65,000 seats.
–Construction of as many as 250 luxury boxes at mid-level of the stadium and 15,000 club seats.
The environmental impact report is expected to take a year. Reconstruction would begin after the 1991 Raider and USC seasons. During the 1992 season, both USC and the Raiders will have to play elsewhere. Speculation is the Raiders will play at Dodger Stadium and USC at Anaheim Stadium.
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Never done or built. That’s why I said AD was lied to.
No argument with you MR, just being factual
October 27th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 27th, 2009 at 11:09 am
anybody who only has 2 TD’s and a whopping 13 turnovers in 7 games that doesn’t think he’s playing poorly or that he’s a part of the problem is probably just as delusional as the man who drafted him.
^^^^^^^Yep!
October 27th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
I think half if not most of the team will be thinking more about how they are going to spend they’re off day’s during the bye, than on trying to beat the Chargers. Another blow out is on the horizon….
October 27th, 2009 at 2:43 pm
Be factual, then, exla. But if you’re trying to drown out my p.o.v. that Al Davis needs to retire, you’re going to get rolled, muthu f’r.
October 27th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
MR, your are entitled to your point of view without being drowned out. I kinda agree that AD needs to hire a G.M. But remember, all owners meddle. It’s their team.
October 27th, 2009 at 2:50 pm
A watershed victory would be great.
When is the last time the Raiders just blew someone out?
I mean just wiped the floor clean with ‘em (closest thing I recall is week 2 victory against Chiefs in 08, but I don’t think that would count)?
That’s what we need. Then, the following week, we need another W.
The only way this team does anything is if they’re not convinced they’re going to lose before they show up at the stadium.
October 27th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
David Carr is going to be a free agent-anyone interested?…I am!
October 27th, 2009 at 2:53 pm
15,000 club seats. lol
I remember the letter from the Raiders that they were going to convert my seats to Club Seats and there would be a PSL of $7,000 per seat(I had 4) for the right to buy the seats for 10 yrs. I almost crapped in my pants. I was kinda glad the plan failed and they went to Oakland. I didn’t pay a PSL and gave up my seats when they asked for one for the remodel in Oakland.
October 27th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
The Raiders had displays all over of the renovations and financial specialists available on game days.
October 27th, 2009 at 3:04 pm
I just checked Leaf and JaMarcus’s STATS … holy crap they could be twins.
Leaf … …… Games 24 … Comp 48.4% … 3,666 Yds … 14 TDs … 36 Ints … 12 Fumbles.
JaMarcus … Games 26 … Comp 51.9% … 3,687 Yds … 17 TDs … 20 Ints … 14 Fumbles
October 27th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
LA:
Yeah man – it’s been forever since we blew anyone out. Yeah, the Chief game was an impressive rushing display. Really, the TB game last year was the closest I remember to really outplaying someone impressively. And that definitely wasn’t a blow-out. Although, we did beat Denver in Denver 35-10 last year, didn’t we? It was nice to spank Shanahan in our last ever game against him.
October 27th, 2009 at 3:07 pm
I think 14/36 vs. 17/20 TD/INT would distinguish JaMarcus as a better QB. Not much better, but its too early to call him a bust.
Everything else, yeah fine.
October 27th, 2009 at 3:08 pm
What’s a puonding? lol
October 27th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
I hear you, but I do think having some time on the bench, perhaps brings a new perspective. I’m just saying at this point I see more “upside” or potential if you will in Mr. Carr.
October 27th, 2009 at 3:11 pm
David Carr became gunshy after taking a puonding for years.. Imagine how he would be with our OL.
October 27th, 2009 at 3:13 pm
Smac
31-10.
21 2nd half points.
That’s about as close as we’ve gotten. I think Russell had his best game that day.
His role was game manager. Completed his first 9 passes, ended up 10/11 1 TD.
I think they opened it up more and more down the stretch, culminating in the solid performance in TB.
I see why Al and the coaches wnated to open it up for him. With a better offseason and current circumstances, it may have worked out.
If Russell is still the guy next year, he better know to really get serious in the Spring.
October 27th, 2009 at 3:19 pm
No way that Jamarcus can regain the trust of his teammates for 2009. It is what it is, he showed up out-of-shape, blew off meetings, struggled with accuracy from day one, grew a mohawk and was one of the worst QB’s in the league. It may be only week 8, but that’s how the story will end. He hasn’t stepped up to the mic and gone out of his way to support his teammates, the only thing he did this week was deflect blame and place it on others. No way grown-men put up with that, especially after 3 turnovers in a quarter.
We will probably see a little of Gradowski and Frye sprinkled in the rest of the year, and Russell having one more offseason to prove to his teammates he will put in the work necessary to win and lead as a team.
I’m not putting much hope in the resurrection of Jamarcus Russell at this stage.
October 27th, 2009 at 3:19 pm
ENGLANDRAIDER Says:
October 27th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
Richochet:
Family from Fife?
That’s a good thing.
I’ve always believed that all non-Scots are created equa.
There used to be a pub in SF, before the city became strange, called the Edinburgh Castle-up on Geary.
It was founded by a guy called Dougie who was from Aberdeen.
That was a great place to have a drink or a somewhat heated conversation.
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Still is.
http://www.castlenews.com is their webpage.
As far as “before SF became strange”? Never knew it not to be..part of the charm, I suppose.
October 27th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
LA:
Last year, Russell had 11 TD’s & only 8 Int’s. That’s what makes his start this year so perplexing.
This is my own personal philosophy. Last year, the Raiders stuck with Curry & Walker until deep into the season. When Higgins & Schilens finally got some legit playing time, the offense & JaMarcus, in particular, started to click. So, at that infamous press conference, Al ripped Kiffin for not playing the young guys sooner.
Well, the success they had with Higgins & Schilens is that it gave Al a false sense that this is the way to go from now on. So, what do they do this year? They start the season with 2 rookie receivers – something that has only been done 1 other time in the NFL over the past 30 years.
I think what the Raiders didn’t consider strongly enough, though, is that Higgins & Schilens didn’t start the season last year. They spend the majority of the year watching the successes & failures of Curry & Walker and how they handled or didn’t handle media scrutiny.
I think the Raiders have done J-Russ and those two young rookies a disservice by starting them so soon. With that being said, maybe Al already knew this wasn’t going to be a playoff team this year and just said “screw it – let’s put all our young guys in and let’em learn on the fly, and we’ll be that much more ready to make a playoff run next season.”
If that really was the logic and he’s planning on getting some legit O-Lineman in here next summer, then I think it’s a plan that may prove to be successful by year’s end.
It looks really bad while we’re going through it right now, but, maybe it’ll be worth it in the long-run.
October 27th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
Smac.
That’s what I keep telling myself.
If that’s not what happens, we’ll eat crow.
Is what it is.
October 27th, 2009 at 3:29 pm
Silver-N-Smac,
The problem with the whole “screw it..let the young guys learn on the fly” deal, is what are they learning? That Jamarcus stinks? Horrible bad-habits in trying to overcompensate? Experiencing complete failure?
Not a good way to develop. You were right, JLH and Schilens were eased in and got better as the season came along. Murphy seems to be getting more frustrated and dropping more passes lately, and DHB seems pretty stoked about 4 catches in 7 games. They aren’t learning a whole hell of a lot, IMO.
October 27th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
Silver-n-Smac Says:
October 27th, 2009 at 11:57 am
Look, I’ve watched football for 30 years (as have many of you) and I’ve seen many great QB’s go to the bench, BY THEMSELVES and sit down BY THEMSELVES, to cool off, get their minds straight, do whatever they feel they need to do for their own state of mind at that particular moment.
It doesn’t always need to be rah, rah on the sidelines all the time.
Looking at photos on the bench, or discussing every angle of every play with the QB coach is great. But it doesn’t mean you always have to do it to succeed. The camera always goes to Russell right when he goes to the bench. But, there’s also been plenty of shots os him with Hackett & Grad., discussing what just happened.
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Rah rah? WTF??? Who’s talking about rah rah? we’re talking about COMMUNICATING with the HC..with the OC..discussing what just happened, what should happen.
Russell can’t do anything right, yet he NEVER goes for advice..just plops down. No urgency to talk with anyone, no desire to discuss what should have been done.
As far as “own state of mind’?
I seriously doubt Russell’s concern is “state of mind”.
The guy acts like he just scored the winning td…AFTER AN INTERCEPTION..instead of confuring with those that coach him.
Excuses, excuses..is that all you have are excuses?
October 27th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
Richochet Says:
October 27th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
Russell can’t do anything right, yet he NEVER goes for advice..just plops down. No urgency to talk with anyone, no desire to discuss what should have been done.
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It’s these kinds of idiotic statements that rack-ette demonstrates he and others don’t know what the fook they’re talking about. Of course he talks to Tollner his coach after he comes off the field. Tollner is standing right there, going over the defenses with him Frye and Gradkowski. Of course you have no idea who Tollner is. You think Tollner is some type of cookie. Now just please STFU.
October 27th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
He does go to his spot on the bench, but as I said earlier, occasionally Russell goes straight to Cable, and he does end up reviewing stills with Hackett and Gradkowski (Frye pretends to be interested) on most occasions, whether he initiates it or not, it happens and his mannerisms are debatable, but they do review.
Cable’s also been in his face quite a bit more the last two weeks. That, plus his comments recently would tell me he’s getting pretty impatient.
October 27th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
# exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:
October 27th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
MR, your are entitled to your point of view without being drowned out. I kinda agree that AD needs to hire a G.M. But remember, all owners meddle. It’s their team.
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I agree. All owners do meddle. It’s just that Al is a lot dumber than most of them. It’s not that I want an owner who doesn’t meddle. More like, I want an owner who understands today’s game and knows what he’s doing.
October 27th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
Oak, is that Tollner? I was under the impression Tollner was in the booth, but I’m not sure.
I am sure he has discussions with coaches. I can tell because of the disinterested look on Russell’s face and the fact that said coaches are 70+ years old.
October 27th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
Seriously, though, Russell does review and you can tell he is taking it seriously, despite my joke.
He typically has pretty good plays out of timeouts, so you know he’s listening to what Cable and Co. are saying.
October 27th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
Oakglenn Says:
October 27th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
Richochet Says:
October 27th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
Russell can’t do anything right, yet he NEVER goes for advice..just plops down. No urgency to talk with anyone, no desire to discuss what should have been done.
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It’s these kinds of idiotic statements that rack-ette demonstrates he and others don’t know what the fook they’re talking about. Of course he talks to Tollner his coach after he comes off the field. Tollner is standing right there, going over the defenses with him Frye and Gradkowski. Of course you have no idea who Tollner is. You think Tollner is some type of cookie. Now just please STFU.
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Bull****.
See, if you actually went to the games, you would know that he IMMEDIATELY goes and sits down. Wherever he can plop his ass. The coaches, AS I ALREADY STATED, FOOL, seek Russell out. THEY GO TO HIM to bring printouts, not the other way around.
Of course, considering you’re a lying ass dog..you wouldn’t know about what actually goes on, on the sidelines, would you?
It’s kind of a standing joke now, with announcers, and with some fans that Russell is more concerned about getting his beanie on, than anything else.
That’s why you see so many pics of him sitting there, with that dull look around the eyes, staring off, as if he’s high…you know, little man..like you are..on a daily basis. In EVERY instance, Russell is sitting..BY HIMSELF MOST TIMES..before the assts come find HIM..moron.
October 27th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
I think the beanie is his defense mechanism. Like his ‘invisible’ hat or something.
Maybe he lost a bet and is just trying to cover up that ridiculous frohawk.
October 27th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
I think the beanie is his dunce cap, yet he is the only one who doesn’t know it.
October 27th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
LMAO
October 27th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
VR,
I don’t know. The question becomes, are you learning good football in bad football games or is your confidence being whithered away and learning nothing but how to lose?
It all comes down to the individual, IMO.
If you come prepared and play hard, even on a poor team, usually you stick around in this league and can still be a Pro Bowler or be patient and get your shot when you team finally puts it together (IE Adrian Wilson, Tim Brown, etc).
October 27th, 2009 at 4:26 pm
Don’t know.
If I had all the answers, I’d be a rich man.
Which is why I’m about to score a Heinie instead of some Henny.
Sh;t maybe an 800 if I end up twisting one.
F it.
I’m out, Nation.
Be good.
October 27th, 2009 at 4:32 pm
JHILL -
You might want to stop talking down to peeps about your football knowledge when YOU ARE WRONG in so many ways –
Four Vertical routes? Genius, THERE ARE FIVE ELIGBLE RECEIVERS EVERY PLAY. The checkdown is almost always there so it isn’t part of the play name.
If Russel put the offense in the wrong formation it can screw up the match-ups and blocking but the checkdown is still there.
JR is terrible – period.
Other retarded cooments –
“The D quit after JR was benched.” – lol The D gave up 24 points with JR, 14 with Gradkowski.
“Gradkowski isn’t an answer.” Why? He’s better than JR. He isn’t old. How do you geniuses know he won’t be the next Plunkett or Hostettler or Gannon? The reality is with less time under Cable and far fewer reps in practice he moves the offense and displays more leadership than JaWalrus.
Jhill might want to learn something about football before he calls anybody else out.
October 27th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
the owner of the titans just told fisher to start v. young
some owners do meddle they are paying the salaries. there season is lost so they will see if young can get it going.
i would take young over JaDarrenBey any day.
October 27th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
I have a question.
WHO HERE GOES TO GAMES?
Ok..and of those?
WHO HERE DECIDES IT’S MORE FUN TO STAY AT HOME, AND POST ON THIS BLOG, AND THEN, LAST MINUTE? Rush to the game to barely get inside?
Now, myself? NEVER get to the parking lot of any game I go to later than 10…BBQ setup…listening to morning game…tossing around the pigskin…belting down some Sammy’s…eating up..lot’s of football talk…getting all pumped for the game…standing with the mob pushing towards the turnstyle…
But OakGlenn stays home.
Oakglenn Says:
October 18th, 2009 at 11:04 am
Game Day!! See you all in the stadium. .
It’s 11:00..DAY OF THE GAME..and he’s here? HUH??
But then, at 11:38???
Oakglenn Says:
October 18th, 2009 at 11:38 am “Tell that to Detroit, KC, The 1980’s Tampa Bay Bucs, Arizona for 25 years, New Orleans for 20 years, Cincinatti,
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DUDE HASN’T EVEN LEFT YET, AND IT’S 11:38???
has ANYONE besides OakGlenn decided posting online was more fun that being at the game..tailgating..partying?
Talk about screwed up priorities? lol…geez.
Of course, many believe, including myself, that OakDork doesn’t even go to games…he just runs that, hoping to use it in his sorry weak replies that ‘I was at the game’..because honestly, even the saddest weakest fan doesn’t stay home until the last minute, to post online…
Do they?
October 27th, 2009 at 4:44 pm
JaMarcus is a resident of the East Bay now and he should do the right thing and sell that Rolls Royce or some of those diamonds to up the reward money (now at $20,000) to help put away for LIFE all of those involved in the Richmond gang bang rape of that 15 year old child. Let’s see what kind of man he really can be.
October 27th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
After insisting last week that the Raiders will make the playoffs this year, Seymour dramatically toned down his rhetoric following a 38-0 defeat to the Jets.
I sure hope Al doesnt try to get rid of Seymour for good cause of this statement. Seymour can still be a big force in turning our d around and I really think he is trying everyway possible with both positive and negative things to try and motivate people. Hell if im a professional football player and someone says I cant even beat high schoolers Im showing up to knock some peoples heads off the next Sunday. The 1st charger game was close. This game will either be down to the wire again or San Diego will blow us out. All depends how the players react. They reacted well to Pierce saying they played a scrimmage so Id hope they play even harder after Seymou
October 27th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
AL DAVIS/GM/EMPEROR…..just go AWAY!!
October 27th, 2009 at 5:12 pm
Rack-ette you are certifiably INSANE! You are. You are a manical numbskull. Russell never goes for advice. Oakglenn could never get in the stadium even tho with a name like Oakglenn you have to assume I live in the same town as the stadium, this insane person cannot fathom that I could actually get into the stadium in an hour and a half! Elves and Fairies live amoung us, don’t they rack-ette?? Now your melting down again rack-ette. Jeez, would someone change her tampon and give her a valium. She has lost what little mind she had.
October 27th, 2009 at 5:17 pm
WOW!
I’m glad I peeked in here for that COW.
Coach in your tag and I’m the one who thinks he’s …. ahhh nevermind.
LMFAO!
I never said the D quit after Russell was benched. Your a liar!
Gradkowski is better than Russell? LMFAO! That’s your “coaching knowledge” argument? Ok, you win. Now you know I called for Gradkowski in game 2, right!
So are you telling me that Barnes got pancaked because we were in the wrong formation?
The coach said he called a play with 4 vertical routes. Not my analysis, but the coach’s word. I see you trying to lawyer for a guy in your profession, lol, by referencing Russell leaking out of the backfield.
Russell the muscle’s first responsibility is a chip or at least a look at the Dline for a possible blitz pick up. Right….COACH? I mean with 4 vertical patterns and a suspect Oline, what would YOU do ….. COACH? Now if you tell me that there was time for the RB to be in the pattern before Pace got to Russell …..
Then I disagree. Is that OK? Can I disagree with you and your little brother Mista? Sorry if me disagreeing with someone and talking more football than BS is considered talking down to someone.
I know it’s really all about Russell, lol. This is too funny.
October 27th, 2009 at 5:22 pm
Chargers-Raiders preview:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vu2aSIStMJ8
October 27th, 2009 at 5:34 pm
Jhill might want to learn something about football before he calls anybody else out.
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I’m alway willing to learn a little sumthin. Watcha got for me?
I say Cable is a bad play caller. He had ZERO experience that would qualify him for the position, and the gamble is not paying off. Denver game, vertical routes out of our end zone to start the game. Same thing last week. Coach says he knows better BUT wants to be aggressive.
What do you say about Cable, COACH?
I say Pears (oh he got benched already), Carlisle, Morris, and Satele are awful. 4 of 5 starters that is,
What do you say, COACH?
I say our rookie WRs are, well, rookie WRs. BOTH of them.
I said Russell should have been benched week 2.
Gradkowski is NOT better than Russell, they BOTH suck!
Tell me what part of that football talk needs educating, COACH?
October 27th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
J Hill, what one, individual person do you think is most responsible for how bad we are right now?
October 27th, 2009 at 5:44 pm
Its these kind of statements that make you a target in here. This is why you get your baby nuts kicked-in on a daily basis in here. Who do you think you are talking down to people like you know it all and everybody else is stupid that doesn’t agree with you. You are sick mental a$$hole that should be medicated.
# Oakglenn Says:
October 27th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
It’s these kinds of idiotic statements that rack-ette demonstrates he and others don’t know what the fook they’re talking about. Of course he talks to Tollner his coach after he comes off the field. Tollner is standing right there, going over the defenses with him Frye and Gradkowski. Of course you have no idea who Tollner is. You think Tollner is some type of cookie. Now just please STFU.
October 27th, 2009 at 6:14 pm
And you guys have failed to refute my statements about Al Davis’s ability to manage the team. If you can’t beat me, why should I stop? What individual person is most responsible for how bad the Raiders are right now?
October 27th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
Mistabrown Says:
October 27th, 2009 at 5:44 pm
Who do you think you are talking down to people like you know it all and everybody else is stupid that doesn’t agree with you.
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there are tons of people who don’t agree with me, nor I with them, yet we seem to get along in here just fine. But then there are idiots like yourself, rack-ette and MR who not only have problems with me, but have problems with most of the posters on this board. Rack-ette makes statements that are completely preposterous. You have stopped doing that, because you know as soon as you do, I am going to rip it apart. MR just continually makes the same statement over and over ad nauseum.
October 27th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
I think Gradowski could have performed as well as Jamarcus, seriously could he be much worse, and would be light-years ahead in leadership and commitment to his craft.
Gradowski and Frye wouldn’t have produced any more wins this year, but those of you who went to the game two days ago would have got more bang for you buck , that’s for sure.
October 27th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
jhill Says:
October 27th, 2009 at 5:17 pm
Gradkowski is better than Russell?
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I have to agree with Jhill on this one. There is absolutely no way in hell that Gradkowski is a better Q than Russell. The reason he had what limited success he did was the Jet defense was not at all prepared for him, and were still in the Russell defense. As soon as the Jet defense realized Grad was not going to complete a pass more than 5 yards down the field, and his running was his best weapon, they jammed up the line, and he went nowhere. That is pretty obvious.
October 27th, 2009 at 6:23 pm
The team did seem a bit more focused with Gradkowski in there. That tells you something. If Russell at all falters, Grad and Frye should have their hats on, and be ready to go in.
October 27th, 2009 at 6:26 pm
I’m sorry OakDork, but you appear to be confused.
See, the question was is how SORRYASS A FAN MUST SOMEONE BE who chooses to stay home all morning, TO POST ON THIS BLOG?
I’m sorry..I think you’re still confused.
Let me help.
YOU’RE A LIAR.
No one…as in NO ONE decides to STAY HOME ALL MORNING, THE DAY OF A GAME, to be here, on THIS BLOG, to post.
You stupidly said “I’m LEAVING”…then at a quarter to 12 you post AGAIN?
Either you’re the biggest sorriest geek in the world, who’s “afraid of those big meany’s in the parking lot” who chooses to prove he’s a loser by staying home to POST ONLINE..or you’re a liar.
Personally I think you’re a LIAR.
Regardless, liar…or geek? LMFAO..either one works for me, OakDork.
October 27th, 2009 at 6:42 pm
post366,dont see youre point,sometimes as season ticket holders,we get to the parking lot EARLY,well before the gates open,to TAILGATE! Now, other times I may choose a late arrival,maybe hung over,maybe I want to catch the first half of the early game on tv,and in that case I leave at 1130 from Fremont,and arrive in time for kickoff!!! Im with Oakglenn on this one,as with most of his posts,PERIOD ps,I follow and post at all times in the morning,why wouldnt I?
October 27th, 2009 at 6:55 pm
jhill i just saw lorenzo neal on comcast and he confirmed alot of what u have been saying. he says there were certain plays that was doomed from the start and the infamous 4 verticals made no sense. we are a running team and thats what the focus should be. papa asked him about how flacco did in certain situations and said that he had help getting out of certain formations and such from veterans like heap mason and so on. hmm who does russell have to help him with onfield adjustments? im glad neal pointed that out cuz alot of these idiots think that flacco and ryan do all of these things by themselves.
October 27th, 2009 at 6:55 pm
my weener is a better QB than JR
October 27th, 2009 at 7:02 pm
Oakglenn bs poster
Does that mean JR is a bonafida QB or Cable is a better coach than Grudenor wait maybe it means the Raiders will ran the table and win 9 games or maybe hold on you are a real fan who lives 15 mins away from the stadium? So are you admitting that you are a minor punk? Where is your fok buddy Priest, for once why don’t u admit that Al ruined the Raiders grow u moron.
October 27th, 2009 at 7:04 pm
Richochet Says:
October 27th, 2009 at 6:26 pm
I’m sorry OakDork, but you appear to be confused.
See, the question was is how SORRYASS A FAN MUST SOMEONE BE who chooses to stay home all morning, TO POST ON THIS BLOG?
I’m sorry..I think you’re still confused.
Let me help.
YOU’RE A LIAR.
No one…as in NO ONE decides to STAY HOME ALL MORNING, THE DAY OF A GAME, to be here, on THIS BLOG, to post.
You stupidly said “I’m LEAVING”…then at a quarter to 12 you post AGAIN?
Either you’re the biggest sorriest geek in the world, who’s “afraid of those big meany’s in the parking lot” who chooses to prove he’s a loser by staying home to POST ONLINE..or you’re a liar.
Personally I think you’re a LIAR.
Regardless, liar…or geek? LMFAO..either one works for me, OakDork.
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I agree. Matter fact I think he is under age kid who is waiting for his sugar daddy to pick him up and take him to the game, question is in exchange for what, I don’t know but I can assume this idiot is trying show his manhood online talking crap and never stating facts that Al is the reason we losing u chump.
October 27th, 2009 at 7:09 pm
also this gradkowski stuff has to stop. did yall not see the 3 dropped ints this man threw with 2 of them being pick 6’s? we were lucky the score wasnt 52-0 instead. they did look more focused which cant be ignored but also seemed to wear off once they realized he wasnt much better.
October 27th, 2009 at 7:13 pm
man sunday was just a bloody azz rapin !!!!!!!
October 27th, 2009 at 7:22 pm
Ok, I will wait three hours for a reply since Oakdork will hide like a little biaatch
October 27th, 2009 at 7:26 pm
Post 372,Armond,how are YOU doing? I can only repeat a post made last night,I will continue to tailgate w/ friends and family,HOPE or 8-8!Just cant explain the Phil game vs the Jets game,effort wise,etc Now remember that some have said 11-5 is still possible,was that our friend Raider O
October 27th, 2009 at 7:45 pm
I love reading the optimism within my fellow Raider Nation faithful; however, as that hope always streams within my silver and black blood, I cannot for the life of me see any hope of these people becoming winners. F$#k execution, f$#k communication, and f$#k all the other excuses. It comes down to this. They have no pride, no desire, no confidence. Simple as that. There are just too many problems, too much of an attitude and mental shift needs to happen. This is a three year project, from today on. This season is over. Over.Finished. Next season just might see six wins. Depends on how significant the changes in the offseason are in both personell and in attitude, belief. I don’t see 11-5 happening for like four years. Maybe three years, but that would be some serious work behind the scenes going on for that result. Meanwhile, I’ll be watching all along, patient and pissed off, waiting for Raider brutality and dominance to emerge once again.
October 27th, 2009 at 7:48 pm
Jerry,
Thanks for the chat every Tues. Nice way of answering some tough questions….
Fans,
Why get upset with each other or individual players, schemes, etc. There is only one person responsible for this mess so why not take your anger out on him! BOYCOTT! A fan is a devotee to the team, not something to be taken for granted.
October 27th, 2009 at 7:50 pm
whatup gilbert, all we can do is just hope these guys get it 2gether. the season is pretty much done until they decide its not. i dont know if o said it tho he probably did. we know he wants to cut damn near the whole team haha!! tailgates are cool but im so pissed all i do is just get there in time for the game and leave. ive lost some enthusiam for them man its disgusting how they play.
October 27th, 2009 at 7:53 pm
Exactly Armond. Their play is an embarrassment to themselves, to us fans, to the organisation, and to the league itself. There is no place in the NFL for play of that poor a standard. I will stay raider4life, simple as that, but disgusted is truly the best word. No other suits really.
October 27th, 2009 at 10:55 pm
39,000 for the game on Sunday?
Don’t be mad when Al moves the team back to LA.
It’s a tuff situation cuz this doesn’t deserve a sell out, but at the same token, Oakland obviously cannot financially support this team and they will leave.
I feel bad for you guys that go out there and support the team, but they will be as good as gone.
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October 28th, 2009 at 6:23 am
LMAO! Dito!
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 27th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
LOL. Now Gradkowski’s “the franchise”? LOL. Desperation is so embarrassing, isn’t it?
October 28th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
seriously, you who defend Jablubberbutt are complete idiots and have no clue about football.
He is one of the worst QB’s I have ever seen. And with no signs of improvement. How many years has he been here? huh? F- that, he has had enough time to show something. Every aspect of his play is horrible. Everyone knows it, it’s no secret. And don’t blame the team or line or some other strawman. It’s all on him. Any other QB in here would be some what productive. He is lazy, shotty attitude, lazy, cant throw for sh-t ( I would have no problems giving him a rifle and standing 10 yards away and ask him to shoot me.) He is a product of this generation, I signed the dotted line, got my bills and now don’t give a f–k, I’ll just show up.
Stamp a bust on his huge fat melon. Good job Al, sign a no name who had one good game. See where that got ya? Hope it helps you sleep at night.
I would rather take Walter at this point. This is an all time low.
December 14th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
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