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At least penalties are down

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, October 27th, 2009 at 7:26 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Who says there’s no good news where the Raiders are concerned?

Either the NFL felt sorry for Al Davis and didn’t hold its annual “screw the Raiders” offseason meeting with officials this year or Tom Cable actually has an area where he can look at and have solid evidence of progress.

Through seven games, the Raiders have 41 penalties for 312 yards, tied for 12th in penalties and 21st in yardage. This is usually an area where the Raiders lord over the rest of the league like Rod Carew in a 1970s race to a batting title.

Projected through 16 games, the Raiders would 94 penalties for a scant 713 yards at the end of the season.

The Raiders have had 100 penalties or more in each of the last nine seasons, since having only 98 in 1999. They’ve had more than 800 yards in penalties in each of those yards and have marched backward for more than 1,000 yards in every season from 2002 through 2005. (Yes, 2002. Good teams overcome penalites).

If the Raiders were to stay in their current range of penalty yardage, it would be the lowest total since 1990, when they had 97 penalties for only 682 yards.

Their high-water mark for flags since returning to Oakland was 1996 (156 penalties, 1,266 yards _ if only they could find a running back with that kind of production).

In a 38-0 loss to the Jets, the Raiders had only three penalties for 41 yards.

Cable wasn’t about to wear a party hat, given the won-loss record and the fact that all three penalties were costly.

“That is something we are excited about, we are not giving away yards, but it’s just one area and we have to improve in a few areas,” Cable said.

The bad news is the Raiders still know how to get quality out of a penalty even if the quantity is down.

On the opening kickoff, tight end Brandon Myers was called for an illegal block below the waist, pushing the Raiders half-the-distance to the goal and starting at the 10-yard line instead of the 20.

Cable decided not to alter the script of sending four receivers on vertical routes despite being backed up, and the result was a lost fumble by JaMarcus Russell after being hit by Calvin Pace. The Jets eventually scored on a 1-yard run by Thomas Jones.

(Tackle Khalif Barnes was called for tripping on Pace’s sack, but it was declined).

With the Jets leading 14-0 and driving to the Oakland 39-yard line, Mark Sanchez threw incomplete on third down, but the Jets picked up the first down when Stanford Routt was called for defensive holding and an automatic first down. New York eventually scored on an 8-yard run by Shonn Greene.

The final flag came when Richard Seymour gave New York a first down on a third-and-4 play with a personal foul inside the 10-yard line. No reason to pull your hair out over that one _ the Raiders got a break when Jay Feeley missed a short field goal attempt.

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152 Responses to “At least penalties are down”

  1. Lynn from Snot Says:

    Is that what its come to?

  2. Glutten for Punishment Says:

    bla bla bla

  3. 408RAIDER Says:

    great now Jerry is posting a sympathy blog…. Thanx 4 the fix Jerry…..

  4. Oakglenn Says:

    Thanks for the Good news. The problem is special teams, the offense, and at times the defense isn’t professional quality.

  5. Oakglenn Says:

    Richochet Says:
    October 27th, 2009 at 6:26 pm

    I’m sorry OakDork, but you appear to be confused.
    ============================================

    No, rack-a-shiit, it’s always funny the people who call others liars, normally are liars. But somehow, in your mind, you are able to discern the comings and goings of others, even tho you have absolutely NO knowledge of them, thru some weird ability. You are a deranged psychotic. Sad, but true. And funny at least to me.

  6. vegas raider Says:

    Could have fooled me that the penalties are down. Seems like every crucial 3rd down stop we get, has some sort of illegal contact on Routt called.

  7. Oakglenn Says:

    Going back over the lst half of that last debacle, the defense actually played pretty well. Nnamdi didn’t. Michael Huff is quietly becoming a force at FS.
    The problem with this team is the constant mistakes. Constant, constant, constant mistakes. Take the beginning of the game. Poor special teams return, a penalty, and the Raiders are already backed up, and the game has barely started. Next play, Barnes gets absolutely blown to bits, causing a fumble AND he commits a penalty. The game is barely seconds old, and there are a myraid of mistakes. This team is not good enough to overcome a myriad of mistakes. The Jets did not make a lot of mistakes. The Jets won.

  8. armond Says:

    huff has been very physical this year and its good to see. he had a few hits out there and he had one tackle where he just planted some guys face in the dirt. if only the damn lb’s would get that aggressive.

  9. Oakglenn Says:

    # vegas raider Says:
    October 27th, 2009 at 7:54 pm

    Could have fooled me that the penalties are down. Seems like every crucial 3rd down stop we get, has some sort of illegal contact on Routt called.
    =================================================

    That’s exactly what I was thinking. Or every big offensive play, there’s a hold. Or EVERY ST return, there’s a penalty.

  10. Dark Forces Says:

    Penalties being down is just a symptom of the players not caring and not even trying hard enough to get penalties.

  11. vegas raider Says:

    If they lose Sunday and Russell stinks it up again, there might be a chance that they push the 30K level for the KC game. The stadium will be very depressing.

  12. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Jerry, Russell’s done nothing to help his cause but it seems like your more butt hurt over his dissing the press.

    Its sounding petty.

    Gradkowski did nothing signioficant against Jets scrubs on defense.

    Granted he’s no Marino, but doesn’t that seem to point to the fact its not all Russell.

    You seem to be pi-ssed more at the fact he didn’t talk to the press.

  13. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Oakglenn Says:
    October 27th, 2009 at 7:56 pm
    # vegas raider Says:
    October 27th, 2009 at 7:54 pm

    Could have fooled me that the penalties are down. Seems like every crucial 3rd down stop we get, has some sort of illegal contact on Routt called.
    =================================================

    That’s exactly what I was thinking. Or every big offensive play, there’s a hold. Or EVERY ST return, there’s a penalty.

    =============================

    CORNELL GREEN HAS BEEN OUT.

  14. vegas raider Says:

    With as much denial as Jamarcus seems to have in regards to himself, makes you wonder how bad is conditioning really was in the offseason for him to actually admit he was “a little heavy”. If Jamarcus was willing to fess up, he was probably HUGE.

  15. EMRaiders Says:

    What I don’t get is why does it seem like no matter what we do, it always back fires. We r either not training enough, not prepared enough, or not caring enough. All of which are unacceptable for any type of profesional team. Specially a sports one.

  16. Dude Says:

    Oakdouche,

    Hows that prediction you made doing??? LOL! Well done!!

  17. radraider Says:

    did anyone see how sanchez manned up and took responsjbility for the jets loss the week before. JR should take note how a real nfl quarterback acts.

  18. Richochet Says:

    Oakglenn Says:
    October 27th, 2009 at 7:42 pm
    Richochet Says:
    October 27th, 2009 at 6:26 pm

    I’m sorry OakDork, but you appear to be confused.
    ============================================

    No, rack-a-shiit, it’s always funny the people who call others liars, normally are liars. But somehow, in your mind, you are able to discern the comings and goings of others, even tho you have absolutely NO knowledge of them, thru some weird ability. You are a deranged psychotic. Sad, but true. And funny at least to me.
    ==============
    OAKDORK???

    It’s VERY SIMPLE.

    I say you DON’T GO TO THE GAMES.

    You say “I do”.

    So, explain why YOU choose to STAY HOME UNTIL ALMOST NOON, just to post on this blog.

    Well?

    COME ON FOOL..it’s simple..WHY STAY HOME INSTEAD OF GOING TO TAILGATE???

    You won’t answer.
    You know why? BECAUSE YOU’RE A LYING ASS DOG.

    Now, tuck tail, fool.

  19. EMRaiders Says:

    JR is making it very difficult for anyone to keep making a case for him.

  20. Oakglenn Says:

    # Nnamdi21 Says:
    October 27th, 2009 at 8:04 pm

    Oakglenn Says:
    October 27th, 2009 at 7:56 pm
    # vegas raider Says:
    October 27th, 2009 at 7:54 pm

    Could have fooled me that the penalties are down. Seems like every crucial 3rd down stop we get, has some sort of illegal contact on Routt called.
    =================================================

    That’s exactly what I was thinking. Or every big offensive play, there’s a hold. Or EVERY ST return, there’s a penalty.

    =============================

    CORNELL GREEN HAS BEEN OUT.
    ===============================

    Good point.

  21. Dude Says:

    Ricochet,

    Oakglenn dznt even live in Cali, I already proved long ago he lives in Georgia.

  22. Richochet Says:

    Dude…really? Well then, leaving at 11:40 definitely won’t get him to the game on time..would have to leave by 11 at the latest ;)

    OakDork isn’t the sharpest tack in the drawer, is he?

  23. Dude Says:

    How about all your preseason predictions?? LOL. Dont even pretend you werent predicting big things for this club. You are a blatant liar if you do.

  24. Oakglenn Says:

    Well Rad, that is something you would hope to see. Russell clearly is having a problem with maturity. Comparing Russell to Leaf, Russell has more TD’s and almost half as many pix. Not really comparable. But nice try.

  25. raiderrej Says:

    Look at the bright side, atleast we can’t blame the refs!

  26. raideralex99 Says:

    radraider Says:
    October 27th, 2009 at 8:26 pm
    did anyone see how sanchez manned up and took responsjbility for the jets loss the week before. JR should take note how a real nfl quarterback acts.

    ____________________________________________________________________

    Exactly … and the team put it behind him and the Jets came out to play.

    You guys can make all the excuses you want for JaMarcus … bottom line he does NOTHING to show he wants to succeed in the NFL.

    1. Comes training camp out of shape
    2. Cable basically calls him out before pre-season
    3. Garcia asks to be released because of JR
    4. JaMarcus throws his WRs under the bus
    5. Ex LSU teammates call him out
    I could go on and on but whats the point … JR could throw 20 INTs and one TD … and the JR lovers would praise him for than one TD throw.
    Face it … if Leaf was a bust so will JaMarcus just check out their stats …

    Leaf
    … Games 24 … Comp 48.4% … 3,666 Yds … 14 TDs … 36 Ints … 12 Fumbles.

    JaMarcus
    … Games 26 … Comp 51.9% … 3,687 Yds … 17 TDs … 20 Ints … 14 Fumbles

  27. Dude Says:

    Noshadow,

    Need a tissue? Or some cheese?

  28. Noshadowking Says:

    Either the NFL felt sorry for Al Davis and didn’t hold their annual “screw the Raiders” offseason meeting with officials this year

    Um this is not exactly right J. Penalties may be down but trust me they held there screw the raiders meeting. Just ask rookie wr Murphy or ask any fan of the nfl after watching the other 2 similar touchdowns stay touchdowns. And has anyone ever,ever seen the tuck rule called since the playoff game. I think they held the annual help out the Patriot meeting this year too. They wont even let defenders sniff anywhere near Brady without a flag wtf

  29. Noshadowking Says:

    Well your neighbor sucks then Oakglenn. Cant blame him for not giving a crap though. Being youn and handed all that money. Raiders need to tell him to grow up or take his money and dissapear.

  30. Dude Says:

    Kind of like the movie Groundhog Day isnt it??

  31. Ya Boy Says:

    4 verticals? How about some short crossing routes that can go for big yards? like the one to higgins vs. the pats last year? am i wrong nation? Give the struggling JR some help! I like Cable but his offense is painful to watch…

  32. vegas raider Says:

    Raideralex99,

    Either the JR lovers will still praise him or the Davis basher’s will blame Davis solely and absolve Russell of any blame.

    The team has plenty of problems, starting with Al Davis, but with either Bruce or Frye, we probably would have lost 17-3, 24-6 or something like that, but it would have been a helluva lot more entertaining than 38-0. Just shows how little confidence and faith the rest of the team has in him, and he doesn’t seem to care less about it.

    I think the reason Cable went to the papers with his attack on Russell, is he had to, to save face with the other 52 players. They are sick of his act, and the coach had to call him on it. So either he turns around his act and attitude, even more so than his performance, or they are going to have to move on. Teammates won’t sell out for him, especially under this coach-ownership crap platter we have going on.

  33. Dude Says:

    This team has no prayer until Al Davis dies. Simple as that.

  34. Noshadowking Says:

    Nah dont need either. Just venting while I wait for the 7th crappy raider season to end, the coach to get fired, our draft to suck when we dont draft any o-line or d-line men lol

  35. Noshadowking Says:

    Yeah it is like that movie. Each year you wake up and think somethin different will happen but realize its just the same as last year lol

  36. vegas raider Says:

    I disagree Oak, Leaf and Russell have a one big thing in common.

    They each were the worst starting QB in the league in a year they played. Stats are stats, not many have ever been this bad except…..well Ryan Leaf.

  37. NorthernD Says:

    It’s not a question of how many penalties are called, but when they are called, and by whom. ie THE TUCK RULE
    Perhaps when Al is gone, the league office will get over their grudge and start calling the plays fairly.

  38. Dude Says:

    Rico,

    Seriously bro, dont even bother with the guy. He is a 100% LIAR and nothing he says has any credibility. He is ALWAYS wrong yet claims he “humiliates” people on here all the time. He dznt answer for his B.S. and flat out knows nothing about the Raiders. Before the season started he was predicting huge things for this club and spewing nonsense about Russell and the offense. I proved beyond a shadow of a doubt he dznt live in Oakland a long time ago. Like I said, dont bother with him.

  39. Oakglenn Says:

    Looks like the trolls left. Must be med time at the facility. Notice how as soon as you nail them, the gutless wonders vamoose.

  40. doriangray Says:

    SO / UMM. DID SANCHEZ EAT THE PIGEON TOO ? THAT WAS SUCH AN EMBARRASINGLY DISREPECTFUL GAME. 4TH DOWN FAKE PUNT IN OWN TERRITORY ? GATORADE SHOWER 4 CALLAHAN. LOW. LOW. LOW.

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  42. Dude Says:

    You dont have to defend yourself?? LOL! You cant, of course your gonna say that. Everything you say is B.S. Thats it, thats all. Everything you said leading up to the season has been 100% wrong and everything I have said has been proven correct. Of course you cant defend yourself.

  43. Dude Says:

    Rico,

    I have asked him on many occasions if he was in actuality retarted. I really think he might be.

  44. Oakglenn Says:

    So rack-etta we have proven you have made assertions so outlandish that even you run away from them. Now you claim I am posting all morning, when I might have posted 4 or 5 times in 2 and a half hours, you claim I could not get into a stadium in the town I live in in an hour and a half. And I have proven that in just the last 10 minutes. So what is it, rack-etta, liar or kook???? It is one or the other.

  45. UCSBPreMedMike Says:

    I was talking to my buddy, Mike, and asked him if the Raiders could get any worse…he said “Put em in a Clippers Uniform” …has a point!

  46. Oakglenn Says:

    Liar or kook rack-etta? which is it. BTW, you are wrong on everyone of those posts.

    Jamarcus Russell 2006
    2006 232 342 3129 67.8 9.15 58 28 8 16 167.03**** rating
    Wrong as usual rack-ette.

    Go read Parcells book. Wrong again racketta.

    Joe Cool was cool under pressure and other than a couple of emotional moments in Super Bowl, rarely exhibited emotion on the field. See Harris Barton, Montana’s RT.

    Russell has had 23 career starts. Still a work in progress.

    So, wrong, wrong, wrong, and wrong. But keep trying.

  47. Oakglenn Says:

    Rack-etta, I answered all your questions. Answer one of mine. Kook or liar??? Which is it??

  48. Oakglenn Says:

    Come on rack-etta. kook or liar???

  49. NorthernD Says:

    I think Al Davis should promote JaMarcus to head coach.
    That way he can fire him, and then refuse to pay him like the others…

  50. Oakglenn Says:

    Richochet Says:
    September 15th, 2009 at 11:42 am
    And when Chuckie turned to Al’s box, during a game, after Al called down from the box, AND FLIPPED AL OFF?
    ======================================

    Show us rack-etta or admit you make stuff up because you are a kook

  51. Oakglenn Says:

    looks like the trolls ran and hid again.

  52. Oakglenn Says:

    # doriangray Says:
    October 27th, 2009 at 9:42 pm

    SO / UMM. DID SANCHEZ EAT THE PIGEON TOO ? THAT WAS SUCH AN EMBARRASINGLY DISREPECTFUL GAME. 4TH DOWN FAKE PUNT IN OWN TERRITORY ? GATORADE SHOWER 4 CALLAHAN. LOW. LOW. LOW.
    ==================================================

    This is a good post. Pierce saying it was like a scrimmage. Sanchez eating a hotdog. Fake punt at their own 20. Gatorade Shower for Callahan. Everyone in the nation pissing all over them. You wonder when these players will have enough and stand and fight.

  53. Chris in NY Says:

    Just saw that Dez Bryant is suspended for the rest of this season. The fact is he’s going to be a stud in the NFL and will be much better than any of the WRs drafted this past season.

    This is another reason the DHB pick drives me crazy. All leading up to the 2009 draft I was saying trade down, pick Maualuga and Loadholt. Or, take Maualuga at No. 7 and hope Loadholt falls to you in Round 2.

    Well, both guys lasted till Round 2.

    Loadholt is the starting RT since Game 1 on a 6-1 team that is 3rd in the league in points per game.

    Maualuga is the starting strong side OLB since Game 1 on a 5-2 team that is 9th in points per game allowed and has gone from dreadful to taking down Chicago, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Green Bay and is one fluke play away from dealing the Broncos what would be their only loss of the season.

    Would’ve been nice to land fixtures in a mammoth RT and bonecrushing LB in this past draft and go out and get a guy like Bryant this year who is going to be the next T.O. or Andre Johnson. Instead we got a guy who isn’t even going to be the next James Jett and who knows what else down the line.

  54. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Noshadowking Says:
    October 27th, 2009 at 9:00 pm
    Either the NFL felt sorry for Al Davis and didn’t hold their annual “screw the Raiders” offseason meeting with officials this year

    Um this is not exactly right J. Penalties may be down but trust me they held there screw the raiders meeting. Just ask rookie wr Murphy or ask any fan of the nfl after watching the other 2 similar touchdowns stay touchdowns. And has anyone ever,ever seen the tuck rule called since the playoff game. I think they held the annual help out the Patriot meeting this year too. They wont even let defenders sniff anywhere near Brady without a flag wtf

    =================================

    Penalties may be down but they certainly have hurt. No denying the refs are either incompetent repeatedly for Raider games or fixed.

    The Tuck Rule has been called a few times since but never with such consequence as that bleak day.

    Pats cheat and the League is fixed to a degree.

    Member the Seahawks Steelers super bowl?

  55. Oakglenn Says:

    Chris I was on record before the draft saying Cushing will be a better pro backer than Maualuga. I still think that. As bad as our offense is, we couldn’t afford to draft defense and trading down was an iffy proposition. Eugene Monroe would have been a good choice at #7.

  56. DKnight007 Says:

    # Ya Boy Says:
    October 27th, 2009 at 9:06 pm

    4 verticals? How about some short crossing routes that can go for big yards? like the one to higgins vs. the pats last year? am i wrong nation? Give the struggling JR some help! I like Cable but his offense is painful to watch…

    ^^^^^^^It was stupid for Davis and Cable to hire Tollner to implement “more of a vertical passing attack” when I heard about that I automatically thought a whole new passing attack and terminology and would be put in place and it wouldn’t help Russell, but hurt him and it has…..just stupid and Russell has regressed because of it.

    They finished the season strong last year and it seemed Russell was getting comfortable with the offense and then they switch things up on him…..again!

    Lousy….plus Russell spends more money on bling, drinking and eating instead of on a personal trainer and studying film. Terrible

    Thanks a lot old stubborn idiot man Al Davis, puppetman Cable and lazy Russell for making stupid moves and have lousy work ethic.

  57. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Monroe at 7? Thats alot of money for a pass blocking LT to dump over to right tackle.

    Hendersons doing well and I’m sure Monroe could maybe make the slide to right, but in a zbs?

  58. Oakglenn Says:

    I don’t know Nnamdi, go look at the very lst play we ran in the Jet game, it is up on NFL.com right now, and you tell me how good Eugene Monroe would look right about now. Our RT’s have been absolutely getting DESTROYED! You think that has an effect on Russell? Henderson has played VERY well at LT. He is one of the few pleasant surprises we have seen this year.

  59. doriangray Says:

    REX RYAN BETTER LEARN HOW TO BE A CLASSY COACH OR THIS N.F.L. WILL EAT HIM UP. OR MAYBE HIS FAT ARSE WILL EAT THE NFL. IM CONFUSED. :(

  60. Oakglenn Says:

    There is certainly some BAD football being played out there. Just hope that Jerry Jones and Dan Snyder don’t get their ways, and remove the salary caps and other league competitive protections. Otherwise it will be the Washington Yankees and the Dallas Red Sox and everyone else.

  61. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Mentioned it the other day and Jerry too in his live chat then saw it on Yhho sports, man, theres some crappy football being played this year. Not just in Oakland. Big corporations and self centered greed are finally inevitably decaying the game we once loved.

    Used to be knock the guy out. see whos tougher, now its no hitting below the waist or above it, $25000 fines and suspensions.

    what a joke.

  62. DKnight007 Says:

    # Nnamdi21 Says:
    October 27th, 2009 at 10:28 pm

    Monroe at 7? Thats alot of money for a pass blocking LT to dump over to right tackle.

    Hendersons doing well and I’m sure Monroe could maybe make the slide to right, but in a zbs?

    ^^^^^^^^^^Coming up with that weak argument about how it would have been a waste of money to draft an OT like Monroe, who was a bigger than need at #7, than REACHING for DHB and paying him all that money??

    The pick and option should have been Monroe, Crabtree or trading down…WE ALL KNEW THAT…but the dumb old man does something completely and utterly stupid and drafts a mid to late 1st round rated WR and pays him all that money for what?? Nothing!

  63. Nnamdi21 Says:

    Oakglenn Says:
    October 27th, 2009 at 10:31 pm
    I don’t know Nnamdi, go look at the very lst play we ran in the Jet game, it is up on NFL.com right now, and you tell me how good Eugene Monroe would look right about now. Our RT’s have been absolutely getting DESTROYED! You think that has an effect on Russell? Henderson has played VERY well at LT. He is one of the few pleasant surprises we have seen this year.

    ================================

    Don’t get me wrong, Cornell Green’s been terrible for YEARS and that was Khalif Barnes first snap at right tackle EVER.

    No doubt we need to upgrade the line, no doubt, but I can’t see Big Al burning 1st round picks on right tackle.

    We need line help bigga time starting with the most important position in the ZBS, center. Can’t see that as a first rounder either…unless he runs a sub 4.4 40…

  64. Oakglenn Says:

    # Raiders4eve Says:
    October 27th, 2009 at 10:36 pm

    Get straight and you do swing that way moron.
    ====================================

    You must know something about that huh?? I don’t. Glad you brought it up. Keep it in the closet. Where you belong. dik sukking loser.

  65. Oakglenn Says:

    DKnight007 Says:
    October 27th, 2009 at 10:28 pm

    # Ya Boy Says:
    October 27th, 2009 at 9:06 pm

    4 verticals? How about some short crossing routes that can go for big yards? like the one to higgins vs. the pats last year? am i wrong nation? Give the struggling JR some help! I like Cable but his offense is painful to watch…

    ^^^^^^^It was stupid for Davis and Cable to hire Tollner to implement “more of a vertical passing attack” when I heard about that I automatically thought a whole new passing attack and terminology and would be put in place and it wouldn’t help Russell, but hurt him and it has…..just stupid and Russell has regressed because of it.
    =================================================

    If I said to the nation we could have Andy Reids Philly offense here, what would all of you say??? Probably most of you would want that offense here. As for Davis and Cable installing a new offense for Russell, that is correct, he has not done well with it. You have to ask what are the reasons? Losing his best receiving option, starting two rookies, poor line play, dismal running from Dmac and Bush, and certainly a poor dedication to the craft from Russell himself have all combined to put us in the mess we are in right now.

  66. Nnamdi21 Says:

    The pick and option should have been Monroe, Crabtree or trading down…WE ALL KNEW THAT…but the dumb old man does something completely and utterly stupid and drafts a mid to late 1st round rated WR and pays him all that money for what?? Nothing!

    ==========================

    Cut the dosage!

    Monroe’s a LEFT tackle.

    Probably wouldn’t have helped us right away anyway.

    I agree we need linemen, obviously, but the ZBS isn’t a great fit for Monroe is it? and the system allows the acquisistion and application of smaller more agile guys who cost LESS.

    Unless you scrap the system, there shouldn’t be a need to pay 7th over all money to a right tackle.

    After last years abysmal wide out production, the pic was obviously going to be a receiver.

    Crabtree just played his FIRST GAME. Prima Donna and you don’t know how things will shake out for most NFL careers for THREE YEARS, so lets wait and see on DHB shall we?

  67. Oakglenn Says:

    Remember Eugene Monroe kept Brandon Albert at guard while both were at Virginia. KC moved Albert to tackle and he has done pretty damn good for them there. That shows how good Eugene Monroe really is. He could play left tackle, right tackle, shoot, he could probably play QB.

  68. DKnight007 Says:

    # Nnamdi21 Says:
    October 27th, 2009 at 10:34 pm

    Mentioned it the other day and Jerry too in his live chat then saw it on Yhho sports, man, theres some crappy football being played this year. Not just in Oakland. Big corporations and self centered greed are finally inevitably decaying the game we once loved.

    Used to be knock the guy out. see whos tougher, now its no hitting below the waist or above it, $25000 fines and suspensions.

    what a joke.

    ^^^^^^^^^Now I agree with that! There is alot of bad football being played right now and almost half the teams in the NFL are just terrible and then a small percentage is average and even smaller percentage are average.

    The NFL needs to seriously implement a ROOKIE salary cap….especially for the top 15 picks in the 1st round!

  69. The NEWS Says:

    So…..why again did we draft a track runner over 1 of the 4 “cadillacs”?

  70. Chris in NY Says:

    We definitely need help in the trenches next year, but with the way DHB looks and Schilens’ injury history I wouldn’t be opposed to taking Dez Bryant. I know I’m likely to get killed for that on this board with all our other needs, but Bryant is going to be a superstar. Mark my words.

    For the record I was fiercely opposed to drafting DHB. However, I must admit that I did advocate taking JaMarcus at No. 1 as well.

    That’s it for the draft talk for me. Way too early for that stuff now. But a depressing sign of where we are in this season entering Week 8.

    To DHB’s credit he seems like a good kid and hard worker. Maybe he will develop into a great player with some time. Not overly optimistic right now but WRs have been known to typically take 2-3 years to break out.

  71. Oakglenn Says:

    # The NEWS Says:
    October 27th, 2009 at 10:50 pm

    So…..why again did we draft a track runner over 1 of the 4 “cadillacs”?
    ===============================================

    You tell me.

  72. Chris in NY Says:

    “Either the NFL felt sorry for Al Davis and didn’t hold their annual “screw the Raiders” offseason meeting with officials this year or Tom Cable actually has an area where he can look at and have solid evidence of progress.”

    ————

    Sorry Jerry. Guess you missed Louis Murphy’s TD in Week 1 and a bunch of other shady calls (overruling a 3rd and long catch by Murphy in Week 3 when the game was close and then upholding that terrible call on review; penalizing Chris Johnson for an extremely basic celebration of a pick; ignoring a blatant SD block in the back on the biggest gain of their winning TD drive; etc.).

    Funny how the shady calls generally happen when these games are close but then when they’re out of hand the calls even out.

  73. DKnight007 Says:

    # Nnamdi21 Says:
    October 27th, 2009 at 10:47 pm

    The pick and option should have been Monroe, Crabtree or trading down…WE ALL KNEW THAT…but the dumb old man does something completely and utterly stupid and drafts a mid to late 1st round rated WR and pays him all that money for what?? Nothing!

    ==========================

    Cut the dosage!

    Monroe’s a LEFT tackle.

    Probably wouldn’t have helped us right away anyway.

    I agree we need linemen, obviously, but the ZBS isn’t a great fit for Monroe is it? and the system allows the acquisistion and application of smaller more agile guys who cost LESS.

    Unless you scrap the system, there shouldn’t be a need to pay 7th over all money to a right tackle.

    After last years abysmal wide out production, the pic was obviously going to be a receiver.

    Crabtree just played his FIRST GAME. Prima Donna and you don’t know how things will shake out for most NFL careers for THREE YEARS, so lets wait and see on DHB shall we?

    ^^^^^^^Do you realize how bad the Raider O-Line is??
    Especially at the RT position? Monroe would have started from Day 1 and probably would have been much better than Green and who are the garbage guys at RT now….Pears? Then Cable doesn’t even give reps to Barnes at RT in training camp…..unreal

    Monroe is mobile and agile and would have been just fine at LT or RT. Henderson can play either LT or RT also. Basically Monroe would have added great depth to the line and added some stability. He is 6′3/6′4 and at 305, at an ideal size for the ZBS.

    At least CrabDiva could catch the damn ball consistently.

    I have no problem with DHB as a person or player but what I had and still have a problem with was REACHING beyond belief and taking him at #7 when if old man Al had such a damn hard on for him….he could have traded down and still got him anywhere between 15-20, added a later round pick and more importantly PAID HIM FAR LESS MONEY!

    Stupid and unwise decison making like that is why this once proud and respected franchise is in the freakin GUTTER!

  74. Oakglenn Says:

    DHB is a decent kid, but he is a REAL project as an NFL reciever. He has a good work ethic, but we need guys that can contribute NOW! And I mean NOW NOW NOW!!! Not 2 years from NOW!

  75. Oakglenn Says:

    Where’d whacko racko the whacko go??? Must have been med time for the whacko.

  76. DKnight007 Says:

    # Chris in NY Says:
    October 27th, 2009 at 10:54 pm

    We definitely need help in the trenches next year, but with the way DHB looks and Schilens’ injury history I wouldn’t be opposed to taking Dez Bryant. I know I’m likely to get killed for that on this board with all our other needs, but Bryant is going to be a superstar. Mark my words.

    For the record I was fiercely opposed to drafting DHB. However, I must admit that I did advocate taking JaMarcus at No. 1 as well.

    That’s it for the draft talk for me. Way too early for that stuff now. But a depressing sign of where we are in this season entering Week 8.

    To DHB’s credit he seems like a good kid and hard worker. Maybe he will develop into a great player with some time. Not overly optimistic right now but WRs have been known to typically take 2-3 years to break out.

    ^^^^^^^^I agree I think he will be decent….hopefully…..but the Raiders need an offensive coach like Gruden back to utilize him correctly.

  77. DKnight007 Says:

    Yeah, the NFL is not about parity anymore…..the NFL has crap load of pathetically bad teams and small percentage of average teams and even smaller percentage of good teams.

    They need that damn rookie salary cap BADLY!!

    Should have been implemented a loooooong time ago.

  78. Mistabrown Says:

    Yeah Rad listen to Oakglen she really knows her stuff. Especially Qb’s..
    ==============================
    Oakglenn Says:
    June 8th, 2009 at 12:28 pm

    Anyone with half a brain can see that Jamarcus Russell is a bonafide franchise Q.
    ==============================

    # Oakglenn Says:
    October 27th, 2009 at 8:54 pm

    Well Rad, that is something you would hope to see. Russell clearly is having a problem with maturity. Comparing Russell to Leaf, Russell has more TD’s and almost half as many pix. Not really comparable. But nice try.

  79. Mistabrown Says:

    Oakglen lets talk about Cables “trajectory” hows that looking ?

    Enlighten us Einstein..

  80. Mistabrown Says:

    # Oakglenn Says:
    June 8th, 2009 at 6:31 pm

    Mark Sanchez is a bust.

    =======================

    Oakglenn Says:
    June 8th, 2009 at 12:28 pm

    Anyone with half a brain can see that Jamarcus Russell is a bonafide franchise Q.

  81. Mistabrown Says:

    Lets back to the Raiders Oakglen, you were saying Cables trajectory is really good we should get behind the guy…

    Want me to post it for you or do you remember that mindless rant out your anus ?

  82. Mistabrown Says:

    Oakglen keep digging through the archives I’m going to bed I have things to do tomorrow! Unlike you obviously…LOL

    poop 4 brains

  83. Richard Bentley Says:

    Aside from all the name calling on this blog post, that last game was the greatest disaster in the history of the Raiders, and I don’t know if they will ever pull out of this. God help us, this is going to go on all season. We are doomed.

  84. raiderzmaverick Says:

    Penalties down DOESN’T mean that the Refs aren’t killing us. Just take a look at a couple of plays (example the bullshi$ “incomplete” touchdown catch on the first game). There have been a few like that which make a HUGE difference.

  85. M Lonetree Says:

    Raiderzmaverick,

    correct. The Zebras know how to make the calls against the Raiders at any critical juncture they choose, effectively screwing the team. The Zebras also know how to flag the opposing team for meaningless yardage so that in the end of the game the stats don’t look too out of whack. Kind of like a dealer knowing that both players at the table must receive the same amount of cards for the hand, but also knowing who gets the aces when he needs them.

  86. NorthernD Says:

    That’s proof the league has it in for the Raiders.
    Bad teams are bad because they constantly have players out of position, or are being overwhelmed at the point of attack. Those are the very reasons why player take penalties. Therefore, bad teams take more penalties.
    The league is simply statistically averaging out the total number of penalties for appearance sake.
    The Raiders are garbage now so why not even up the calls? Save the important calls for when they’re going for the playoffs.
    Heck, the refs even won two Superbowls for the Steelers.

  87. Jerry McD: At least penalties are down - Oakland Raiders Forum | Message Board - Where the Raider Nation lives! Says:

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  88. hwnrdr Says:

    Good Morning Nation!!!
    WOW!!! What happened in here last night?

  89. 4evaRaider Says:

    Morning Hwnrdr and NATION…

    If we were winning Hwnrdr everyone would be talking about this great play or that great play.We are losing so instead of talking about how 2 get better they character assassinate each-other.The posters in here have said many many many times how 2 get better and almost every single thought is correct.But after 6 years of giving correct ideas there is not much more 2 say.Big Al cant or wont listen 2 ANYONE else and they all feel their thoughts are meaningless 2 Big Al,so they take their aggressions out on the loyal fans…Themselves.When theres no one else 2 blame we turn on each-other,even tho our suggestions would help immensly,imo

  90. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    What an article. how pathetic.

    Poor Jerry he had to go to the bottom of the bucket to find something interesting to talk about.

    What else can a man do?

  91. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    ***Another post why we are a terrible team************
    This team sucks! How can so much talent in college be so terrible? It just does not make since to me. I said it before and I wil say it again. Yes, execution is important but you need to have plays that fits these guys strengths. We just don’t do that consistant enough, we try to force guys to fit the system and it just does not work. Outside of Russel he just needs to put up or shut up. Now DMac, Bush, DHB, Zach Miller, Johnnie Higgins. you can’t tell me all these guys are just out partying so they are not prepared. Why do all our 1st round picks struggle on this team and are labeled busts? I don’t want to hear Nnamdi, Mario Henderson and Robert Gallery are not busts because at one time or another they were labeled busts. I think Nnamdi has been able to do so well is because he knew he was sun to be coached by his team and he went to seek out Rod Woodson, Charles Woodson and Ronnie Lott to get his technique down regardless of the system. Our major issue is unlike the Steelers or New England this team does not know how to develop talent in a winning system. The best players through out the Raiders history were groomed on another team and bought out by Al for a kings ransom. Now we are trying to develop talent with out the formula and that is what is killing this franchise. They waste their money on top talent that they can not develop.

  92. BlackSunday32 Says:

    I would love to have a beer with fargas and ask him who in these last 6+ yrs was the laziest and played with no heart must kill the guy to watch so many guys just picking up checks.

  93. hwnrdr Says:

    I agree 4eva, and the funny thing is…MR wasn’t on here last night. Just a bunch of name calling back and forth!
    CJ…what can we say? I dont know…I just don’t see how, after the Super Bowl, that we became the worst team for 6-7 years running. I mean…what happened? I think Al pooped his pants during the SB and have never been the same since. You know its bad when preparing for the SB, Chuckie played qb; aka Gannon and the team were in shock when his qb play came true…

  94. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Laker fans gotta love this headline…

    “Enormous Jewelry With a Side of Victory”

    http://lakersblog.latimes.com/lakersblog/2009/10/lakers-99-clippers-92-enormous-jewelry-with-a-side-of-victory.html

    Oh, and good mornin all.

  95. RaiderRockstar Says:

    i hope we trade our 1st rounder prior to the draft.

    i don’t want Taylor Mays. I think Huff is worth keeping around next year, even at 5 million. Branch & Mitchell are cheap so it sort of evens out.

    Mitchell in his 2nd year will be a full-time SS. Branch will be ST gunner and FS on run downs. Huff will be FS on passing plays and/or nickel corner aka “3rd safety” as Cable likes to call it …

    replace Hiram Eugene with another UFA or resign him for the vet minimum. just as long as he doesn’t start!

  96. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    October 28th, 2009 at 7:20 am
    i hope we trade our 1st rounder prior to the draft.

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    Yes, stock up on picks in the later rounds. Al is schizophrenic with the draft lately. Terrible in the first round but a relative genius in 3-6.

    Or maybe trade picks for a really good coach? I’ve heard it’s been done before…

  97. RaiderRockstar Says:

    be back later. gotta meeting

  98. Trolls 35 Raiders 0 Says:

    DAMN refs :evil: If it wasn’t for them :evil: the raders :oops: would have won at least 6 SB’s this decade :-(

  99. CablesRightFist Says:

    C’mon Jerry …. You know you jinxed them now. Here comes a double digit penalty game. Improve on penalties and regress on everything else!

  100. ohioraider Says:

    The greatness of the Raiduhs is in the Futah.

  101. Dakota Says:

    Lakers 1-0!!!!

    Is it June yet?

  102. 4evaRaider Says:

    may as well be Dakota…may as well B

  103. RaiderYYZ Says:

    has anyone been able to confirm whether JaMarcus was listening to the plays on the sidelines when he was benced? The reason he was wearing his helmet was to listen to the plays, not because he htought he was going back into the game?

  104. Raider O Says:

    I want LB McClain from Alabama next year.
    6′3 250, runs a sub 4.7, and he can hit !!

  105. Raider O Says:

    I like JR as our QB, and I’m not ready to call him a bust.
    I called Huff a Bust, and now I want him to start as FS and he has been playing great. RR was right about him. Some players need more time than others. Look at Nnamdi, Huff, Gannon, etc…..

  106. DKnight007 Says:

    M Lonetree Says:
    October 28th, 2009 at 1:31 am
    Raiderzmaverick,

    correct. The Zebras know how to make the calls against the Raiders at any critical juncture they choose, effectively screwing the team. The Zebras also know how to flag the opposing team for meaningless yardage so that in the end of the game the stats don’t look too out of whack. Kind of like a dealer knowing that both players at the table must receive the same amount of cards for the hand, but also knowing who gets the aces when he needs them.

    ^^^^^^Thats EXACTLY what happens!!

  107. los raiders de don rober Says:

    Gotta agree on the refs calling penalties un us when it really hurts, and calling penalties on the other team when its meaningless….This year we have been out of most games by the half, so the refs don’t need to call penalties on us during second half.thats why the penalties are down (that and green & gallery’s injuries)

  108. DKnight007 Says:

    # Oakglenn Says:
    October 27th, 2009 at 8:54 pm

    Well Rad, that is something you would hope to see. Russell clearly is having a problem with maturity. Comparing Russell to Leaf, Russell has more TD’s and almost half as many pix. Not really comparable. But nice try.

    ^^^^^^^Yeah, Russell is nowhere near the LOONEY and HEADCASE Leaf was…..Russell is just lazy right now!

  109. los raiders de don rober Says:

    CJ Legend 34 Says:
    October 28th, 2009 at 6:43 am

    …this team does not know how to develop talent in a winning system. The best players through out the Raiders history were groomed on another team…
    ———————–

    So true CJ, so true.

  110. Dakota Says:

    Come on, you guys are just being paranoid….

  111. Chris in NY Says:

    Raider O,
    That’s a fair point about some players needing more time to develop than others. Problem is it seems like the only players we draft are height/weight/speed projects who, by the time they’re worth a damn, are 4 or 5 years into the league and need a new contract. How many years do we waste developing these guys who may not pan out or if they do it’s not for 3, 4 or 5 years?

    I like upside and I’m not opposed to drafting SOME projects. But we need to start drafting some players who are NFL-ready in a reasonable amount of time.

  112. DKnight007 Says:

    los raiders de don rober Says:
    October 28th, 2009 at 9:30 am
    CJ Legend 34 Says:
    October 28th, 2009 at 6:43 am

    …this team does not know how to develop talent in a winning system. The best players through out the Raiders history were groomed on another team…

    ^^^^^^^^^Yep! And why does this happen?

    Because the idiotic kooky old man Al loves switching coaches every other year! If he the moron hires as REAL HC like a Gruden, Cowher, Holmgren or even Fisher…..than will develop their talent

  113. raidermot Says:

    With Kwame off the team, there is a 4 penalties per game savings right there.

  114. Trolls 35 Raiders 0 Says:

    los raiders de don rober Says:
    October 28th, 2009 at 9:20 am
    Gotta agree on the refs calling penalties un us when it really hurts, and calling penalties on the other team when its meaningless….This year we have been out of most games by the half, so the refs don’t need to call penalties on us during second half

    I :cool: concur 100%!!! DAMN Refs :evil: They ruined a dynasty :-(

  115. M Lonetree Says:

    Paranoid?!? Who’s paranoid?!? I ain’t Paranoid?!? Who said I’m paranoid?!? Who you looking at?!?

  116. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    Why is this post “awaiting moderation”?

    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation.
    October 28th, 2009 at 7:43 am

    When I get down on the Raiders these days, I have found that it helps to make fun of Rob Ryan’s fat ass.

    BSJ: Rob Ryan is SOOOOOO fat…

    Crowd: HOW FAT IS HE?!?!

    BSJ: He’s so fat, when he dances the band skips.

  117. 4evaRaider Says:

    cc:Desertion’s

    VERY VERY QUIET IN HERE 2DAY

  118. Trolls 35 Raiders 0 Says:

    Seymour predicts playoffs: New Oakland defensive end Richard Seymour said on a Cincinnati radio station that the Raiders will make the playoffs this season. The Raiders followed up the boast with a 38-0 loss to the Jets, which was the largest at home in the history of the team. After the game, Seymour said the Raiders couldn’t beat an Oakland high school team Sunday.
    :lol:

  119. 4evaRaider Says:

    The Raiders couldnt have beat’en the Girl Scouts of America last week

  120. 4evaRaider Says:

    Its like we “ARE” all alone in the universe…But,but dddont worrrry I abbbb nitttt paranoooooiiiiiiid

  121. Trolls 35 Raiders 0 Says:

    • Looking for a silver (and black) lining, Raiders fans? The team’s penalties are way down. Hey, it’s a start.

    :lol: Gotta love that Bill Williamson :cool:

    Sorry :-( mod for posting too fast :twisted:

  122. los raiders de don rober Says:

    Seymore is goona watch the playoffs from some east coast city wearing his new team’s colors…bye bye 1st round pick

  123. Trolls 35 Raiders 0 Says:

    The Chiefs looked at two veteran defensive tackles Tuesday.

    The team worked out Shaun Smith and Terdell Sands. According to a source close to the situation, the Chiefs may not be close to making a decision to bring in a defensive tackle and they were simply doing some bye-week looking.

    Smith is a talented, but troubled player who had been shipped out of both Cleveland and Detroit this season. Sands has been cut by Oakland and New England in recent months. Sands was originally a seventh-round draft pick of the Chiefs in 2001.

    We’ll :cool: see if KC :oops: is better at grooming players :?:

  124. 4evaRaider Says:

    The Squaws had Sands first and ruined him 4 all time

    the end

  125. DMAC Says:

    Bradford???????

  126. DMAC Says:

    Go DUBS!

  127. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Hitler learns that Farve has signed with the Vikings:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VfHnCwLp14&feature=related

  128. los raiders de don rober Says:

    2 weeks ago we had a gambling discussion going on. DHB vs Crabtree, and how many games it would take crabs to surpass DHB…so…DHB 7 games 4rec 64 yds…crabs 1 game 5rec 56yds….pffff, so much for thar comparison.

  129. 4evaRaider Says:

    Thankx Exla…those are ALWAYS GOOD

  130. DMAC Says:

    At least we can always enjoy a good Warriors game.

  131. exlaraiderseasonticketholder Says:

    Slow day on here 4evaRaider, probably should leave before the p.m. crowd with their whining and argueing get here. LOL

  132. morilla Says:

    seriously, you who defend Jablubberbutt are complete buffoons and have no clue about football.

    He is one of the worst QB’s I have ever seen. And with no signs of improvement. How many years has he been here? huh? F- that, he has had enough time to show something. Every aspect of his play is horrible. Everyone knows it, it’s no secret. And don’t blame the team or line or some other strawman. It’s all on him. Any other QB in here would be somewhat productive. He is lazy, shotty attitude, lazy, cant throw for sh-t ( I would have no problems giving him a rifle and standing 10 yards away and ask him to shoot me.) He is a product of this generation, I signed the dotted line, got my bills and now don’t give a f–k, I’ll just show up.

    Stamp a bust on his huge fat melon. Good job Al, sign a no name who had one good game. See where that got ya? Hope it helps you sleep at night.

    I would rather take Walter at this point. This is an all time low.

  133. 4evaRaider Says:

    I hear ya the pm crew is like the movie quarantined LOL

  134. vegas raider Says:

    Another wasted year. The only way Jamarcus can keep the troops motivated is if he plays the best ball of his career in the weeks ahead, and I’m not too optimistic that it will happen.

    He will have his chance to make an impression next off-season, and if doesn’t make a good one, just cut him. Like it or not Jamarcus, the QB has to be a vocal leader, and one of the hardest-workers on the team. If he is not up to the job description, than find someone who will. Teammates would rather play for an over-achiever than an under-achiever, not matter the talent level.

  135. 4evaRaider Says:

    post menstrual Raiders lololololololololololaaaaaaaaaaalololololololol

  136. DKnight007 Says:

    los raiders de don rober Says:
    October 28th, 2009 at 10:59 am
    Seymore is goona watch the playoffs from some east coast city wearing his new team’s colors…bye bye 1st round pick

    ^^^^^^^
    Nah…they either give him his money and sign him to an extension or franchise or more than likely Non-Exclusive Tag him.

    Non-Exclusive I believe means that if any team makes him an offer and he signs the offer sheet, the Raiders can match….if they don’t match the Raiders get TWO 1ST ROUND PICKS.

  137. 4evaRaider Says:

    l8er NATION

  138. LA to TheBay Says:

    Keep Seymour here.

    Draft some good players.

    Sign some good players.

    Hire effective coaches.

    Loosen the grip a bit, Al.

  139. DKnight007 Says:

    Don’t matter anyway if the Raiders do get two 1st rounders for letting Seymour walk…..if the old stubborn crazy man Al is making the football decisons and making the picks…..the 1st rounders will be horrible waste picks!

    Lousy Al!

  140. LA to TheBay Says:

    Needed:

    C
    RG
    RT
    DT
    MLB
    SLB
    RCB

  141. LA to TheBay Says:

    Needs to play better:

    WRs
    QBs
    RBs

  142. toec Says:

    “Either the NFL felt sorry for Al Davis and didn’t hold its annual “screw the Raiders” offseason meeting with officials…”

    They had the meeting, ask Louis Murphy.

  143. DKnight007 Says:

    4evaRaider Says:
    October 28th, 2009 at 6:35 am
    Morning Hwnrdr and NATION…

    If we were winning Hwnrdr everyone would be talking about this great play or that great play.We are losing so instead of talking about how 2 get better they character assassinate each-other.The posters in here have said many many many times how 2 get better and almost every single thought is correct.But after 6 years of giving correct ideas there is not much more 2 say.Big Al cant or wont listen 2 ANYONE else and they all feel their thoughts are meaningless 2 Big Al,so they take their aggressions out on the loyal fans…Themselves.When theres no one else 2 blame we turn on each-other,even tho our suggestions would help immensly,imo

    ^^^^^^^Thats another problem….out of the many problems in this organization!

    I have said this the last 3 years….AL DAVIS does not give a CRAP what us fans in the Raider Nation think….it’s all about him and his dictatorship!

    Thats main reason why he needs to go away….he doesn’t care about the fans opinion of him and how the “organization” is being run into the ground.

    Plus he has made HORRIBLE decisions since trading Gruden way…..stupidly I might add.

  144. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    “With the second pick in 2010 NFL draft, the Oakland Raiders select…..wait for it…..

    Taylor Mays, Safety, University of Southern California.

    Learn it, live it, love it…

    It’s safe to say the Rams have a lock on #1, but we are beginning to solidify our chances for #2..Yay…

  145. vegas raider Says:

    Raiders won’t let Seymour walk for nothing. That’s why the trade was fairly smart, if they franchise him or “tag” him, when he walks we will get our pick back.

    It’s like a free rental for a year, or if we do re-sign him, we are certainly getting more than what Al would do with a 1st round pick.

    Should be fun next off-season, Al franchising Seymour, him holding out, demanding to be traded. Can’t wait!!!

  146. Damn They Suck Says:

    ….and the saga that is the Oakland Raiders will continue….now and into the future.

  147. DKnight007 Says:

    LA to TheBay Says:
    October 28th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
    Needed:

    C
    RG
    RT
    DT
    MLB
    SLB
    RCB

    ^^^^^^^
    Needed:

    A NEW OWNER/GM/PERSONNEL MAN/HEAD OF SCOUTING/DRAFT GURU/SOMEONE WHO LISTENS TO THE FANS…..and someone who doesn’t think he is the Emperor from star wars! LOL

  148. LA to TheBay Says:

    VR

    Or Al could be smart and make moves early.

    Reassure him he is redoubling his efforts to make a competitive team.

    I like what Cable tried and is trying to do, but its not working. I know a lot of you want the coaching carousel to stop. I say let it stop once we get the right coach.

    So that’s first thing.

    Second is to offer Seymour a deal. If he balks, franchise him.

    Third, In the meantime, sign the nastiest, hungriest FAs available, not neccecarily the best ‘athletes,’ but the best athletic football players.

    Fourth, draft intelligently. No skill players. None. Draft order should look something like DT, RT, MLB, SSLB, C, RG, DE, or basically like the last 5 drafts should have been.

    Seymour sees legitimate progress (or legitimate dollars), maybe he’s convinced to stay.

    Not sure of the NFL schedule of events, so I doubt you can get all of that accomplished before he tries to walk or sit, but I think step 1 would be critical.

    Overtures need to be made to Cowher, Holmgrenn, Shanahan (yes, I said it), Shottenheimer (yup), and Gruden (that’s right).

    Shanny and Shotty would be interesting because they hate the Raiders and Al Davis, which I think makes them perfect candidates to rebuild the team.

    Any of these coaches would need creative control, or at least a great deal of it.

    An offensive coordinator would be nice. I’d let Marshall stay as long as he’s allowed to run his defense.

    That being said, get ready for Al debuting the youngest NFL Head Coach to date, 25 year Old CIF Coach of the Year Wayne Mifflin and defensive coordinator Al Davis.

    Wayne and Al will draft three defensive backs, two wide receivers, and a tight end (to be converted to defensive end).

  149. Raiders Showing Penalty Progress « MYRAIDERNATION Says:

    [...] busts the numbers in the Oakland Tribune and notes that the Raiders are 21st in the NFL in the dubious category of overall yards penalized. [...]

  150. LA to TheBay Says:

    new post.

    DK

    A NEW OWNER/GM/PERSONNEL MAN/HEAD OF SCOUTING/DRAFT GURU/SOMEONE WHO LISTENS TO THE FANS
    =======================================================
    I was wishful thinking. This is bordeline delusional, my friend, but of course I know you’re just playin’ around. My Kool Aid would have to be mixed extra strong.

    ==================================================
    …..and someone who doesn’t think he is the Emperor from star wars! LOL
    ====================================================
    Wait he’s not?

  151. vegas raider Says:

    LA to the Bay,

    I’m with you with on 99% of it, except the don’t draft any skill players line.

    We need a QB and a RB. Maybe not our 1st rounder, but we must address those two positions. A real NFL everydown RB would do wonder’s to this offense, especially one who does not have to come off the field.

    Our QB-RB combo is one of the worst in the NFL, except maybe for Cleveland and Tampa. I don’t get the whole “draft only linemen” talk.

    You know who has used the least amount of 1st or 2nd round draft picks on O-lineman the last 10 years, and has drafted the most WR’s in the first two rounds those same 10 years? The Pittsburgh Steelers.

    We need a QB, RB, and a MLB more than we need a RT (who you don’t draft until later rounds anyway) or DT. I think Center might be our weakest line spot, and a 3rd rounder would probably be a huge upgrade.

  152. Trolls 35 Raiders 0 Says:

    I :cool: can’t believe :?: that you :oops: guys are already looking forward to the draft :lol:

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