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At least penalties are down

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Tuesday, October 27th, 2009 at 7:26 pm in Oakland Raiders.

Who says there’s no good news where the Raiders are concerned?

Either the NFL felt sorry for Al Davis and didn’t hold its annual “screw the Raiders” offseason meeting with officials this year or Tom Cable actually has an area where he can look at and have solid evidence of progress.

Through seven games, the Raiders have 41 penalties for 312 yards, tied for 12th in penalties and 21st in yardage. This is usually an area where the Raiders lord over the rest of the league like Rod Carew in a 1970s race to a batting title.

Projected through 16 games, the Raiders would 94 penalties for a scant 713 yards at the end of the season.

The Raiders have had 100 penalties or more in each of the last nine seasons, since having only 98 in 1999. They’ve had more than 800 yards in penalties in each of those yards and have marched backward for more than 1,000 yards in every season from 2002 through 2005. (Yes, 2002. Good teams overcome penalites).

If the Raiders were to stay in their current range of penalty yardage, it would be the lowest total since 1990, when they had 97 penalties for only 682 yards.

Their high-water mark for flags since returning to Oakland was 1996 (156 penalties, 1,266 yards _ if only they could find a running back with that kind of production).

In a 38-0 loss to the Jets, the Raiders had only three penalties for 41 yards.

Cable wasn’t about to wear a party hat, given the won-loss record and the fact that all three penalties were costly.

“That is something we are excited about, we are not giving away yards, but it’s just one area and we have to improve in a few areas,” Cable said.

The bad news is the Raiders still know how to get quality out of a penalty even if the quantity is down.

On the opening kickoff, tight end Brandon Myers was called for an illegal block below the waist, pushing the Raiders half-the-distance to the goal and starting at the 10-yard line instead of the 20.

Cable decided not to alter the script of sending four receivers on vertical routes despite being backed up, and the result was a lost fumble by JaMarcus Russell after being hit by Calvin Pace. The Jets eventually scored on a 1-yard run by Thomas Jones.

(Tackle Khalif Barnes was called for tripping on Pace’s sack, but it was declined).

With the Jets leading 14-0 and driving to the Oakland 39-yard line, Mark Sanchez threw incomplete on third down, but the Jets picked up the first down when Stanford Routt was called for defensive holding and an automatic first down. New York eventually scored on an 8-yard run by Shonn Greene.

The final flag came when Richard Seymour gave New York a first down on a third-and-4 play with a personal foul inside the 10-yard line. No reason to pull your hair out over that one _ the Raiders got a break when Jay Feeley missed a short field goal attempt.

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  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    Lakers 1-0!!!!

    Is it June yet?

  • 4evaRaider

    may as well be Dakota…may as well B

  • RaiderYYZ

    has anyone been able to confirm whether JaMarcus was listening to the plays on the sidelines when he was benced? The reason he was wearing his helmet was to listen to the plays, not because he htought he was going back into the game?

  • http://atm Raider O

    I want LB McClain from Alabama next year.
    6’3 250, runs a sub 4.7, and he can hit !!

  • http://atm Raider O

    I like JR as our QB, and I’m not ready to call him a bust.
    I called Huff a Bust, and now I want him to start as FS and he has been playing great. RR was right about him. Some players need more time than others. Look at Nnamdi, Huff, Gannon, etc…..

  • DKnight007

    M Lonetree Says:
    October 28th, 2009 at 1:31 am
    Raiderzmaverick,

    correct. The Zebras know how to make the calls against the Raiders at any critical juncture they choose, effectively screwing the team. The Zebras also know how to flag the opposing team for meaningless yardage so that in the end of the game the stats don’t look too out of whack. Kind of like a dealer knowing that both players at the table must receive the same amount of cards for the hand, but also knowing who gets the aces when he needs them.

    ^^^^^^Thats EXACTLY what happens!!

  • los raiders de don rober

    Gotta agree on the refs calling penalties un us when it really hurts, and calling penalties on the other team when its meaningless….This year we have been out of most games by the half, so the refs don’t need to call penalties on us during second half.thats why the penalties are down (that and green & gallery’s injuries)

  • DKnight007

    # Oakglenn Says:
    October 27th, 2009 at 8:54 pm

    Well Rad, that is something you would hope to see. Russell clearly is having a problem with maturity. Comparing Russell to Leaf, Russell has more TD’s and almost half as many pix. Not really comparable. But nice try.

    ^^^^^^^Yeah, Russell is nowhere near the LOONEY and HEADCASE Leaf was…..Russell is just lazy right now!

  • los raiders de don rober

    CJ Legend 34 Says:
    October 28th, 2009 at 6:43 am

    …this team does not know how to develop talent in a winning system. The best players through out the Raiders history were groomed on another team…
    ———————–

    So true CJ, so true.

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    Come on, you guys are just being paranoid….

  • Chris in NY

    Raider O,
    That’s a fair point about some players needing more time to develop than others. Problem is it seems like the only players we draft are height/weight/speed projects who, by the time they’re worth a damn, are 4 or 5 years into the league and need a new contract. How many years do we waste developing these guys who may not pan out or if they do it’s not for 3, 4 or 5 years?

    I like upside and I’m not opposed to drafting SOME projects. But we need to start drafting some players who are NFL-ready in a reasonable amount of time.

  • DKnight007

    los raiders de don rober Says:
    October 28th, 2009 at 9:30 am
    CJ Legend 34 Says:
    October 28th, 2009 at 6:43 am

    …this team does not know how to develop talent in a winning system. The best players through out the Raiders history were groomed on another team…

    ^^^^^^^^^Yep! And why does this happen?

    Because the idiotic kooky old man Al loves switching coaches every other year! If he the moron hires as REAL HC like a Gruden, Cowher, Holmgren or even Fisher…..than will develop their talent

  • raidermot

    With Kwame off the team, there is a 4 penalties per game savings right there.

  • Trolls 35 Raiders 0

    los raiders de don rober Says:
    October 28th, 2009 at 9:20 am
    Gotta agree on the refs calling penalties un us when it really hurts, and calling penalties on the other team when its meaningless….This year we have been out of most games by the half, so the refs don’t need to call penalties on us during second half

    I :cool: concur 100%!!! DAMN Refs :evil: They ruined a dynasty :-(

  • M Lonetree

    Paranoid?!? Who’s paranoid?!? I ain’t Paranoid?!? Who said I’m paranoid?!? Who you looking at?!?

  • http://www.blogcdn.com/www.fanhouse.com/media/2008/04/desmond-howard-425-sm.jpg Bo Schembechler Jackson

    Why is this post “awaiting moderation”?

    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation.
    October 28th, 2009 at 7:43 am

    When I get down on the Raiders these days, I have found that it helps to make fun of Rob Ryan’s fat ass.

    BSJ: Rob Ryan is SOOOOOO fat…

    Crowd: HOW FAT IS HE?!?!

    BSJ: He’s so fat, when he dances the band skips.

  • 4evaRaider

    cc:Desertion’s

    VERY VERY QUIET IN HERE 2DAY

  • Trolls 35 Raiders 0

    Seymour predicts playoffs: New Oakland defensive end Richard Seymour said on a Cincinnati radio station that the Raiders will make the playoffs this season. The Raiders followed up the boast with a 38-0 loss to the Jets, which was the largest at home in the history of the team. After the game, Seymour said the Raiders couldn’t beat an Oakland high school team Sunday.
    :lol:

  • 4evaRaider

    The Raiders couldnt have beat’en the Girl Scouts of America last week

  • 4evaRaider

    Its like we “ARE” all alone in the universe…But,but dddont worrrry I abbbb nitttt paranoooooiiiiiiid

  • Trolls 35 Raiders 0

    • Looking for a silver (and black) lining, Raiders fans? The team’s penalties are way down. Hey, it’s a start.

    :lol: Gotta love that Bill Williamson :cool:

    Sorry :-( mod for posting too fast :twisted:

  • los raiders de don rober

    Seymore is goona watch the playoffs from some east coast city wearing his new team’s colors…bye bye 1st round pick

  • Trolls 35 Raiders 0

    The Chiefs looked at two veteran defensive tackles Tuesday.

    The team worked out Shaun Smith and Terdell Sands. According to a source close to the situation, the Chiefs may not be close to making a decision to bring in a defensive tackle and they were simply doing some bye-week looking.

    Smith is a talented, but troubled player who had been shipped out of both Cleveland and Detroit this season. Sands has been cut by Oakland and New England in recent months. Sands was originally a seventh-round draft pick of the Chiefs in 2001.

    We’ll :cool: see if KC :oops: is better at grooming players :?:

  • 4evaRaider

    The Squaws had Sands first and ruined him 4 all time

    the end

  • DMAC

    Bradford???????

  • DMAC

    Go DUBS!

  • exlaraiderseasonticketholder

    Hitler learns that Farve has signed with the Vikings:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VfHnCwLp14&feature=related

  • los raiders de don rober

    2 weeks ago we had a gambling discussion going on. DHB vs Crabtree, and how many games it would take crabs to surpass DHB…so…DHB 7 games 4rec 64 yds…crabs 1 game 5rec 56yds….pffff, so much for thar comparison.

  • 4evaRaider

    Thankx Exla…those are ALWAYS GOOD

  • DMAC

    At least we can always enjoy a good Warriors game.

  • exlaraiderseasonticketholder

    Slow day on here 4evaRaider, probably should leave before the p.m. crowd with their whining and argueing get here. LOL

  • morilla

    seriously, you who defend Jablubberbutt are complete buffoons and have no clue about football.

    He is one of the worst QB’s I have ever seen. And with no signs of improvement. How many years has he been here? huh? F- that, he has had enough time to show something. Every aspect of his play is horrible. Everyone knows it, it’s no secret. And don’t blame the team or line or some other strawman. It’s all on him. Any other QB in here would be somewhat productive. He is lazy, shotty attitude, lazy, cant throw for sh-t ( I would have no problems giving him a rifle and standing 10 yards away and ask him to shoot me.) He is a product of this generation, I signed the dotted line, got my bills and now don’t give a f–k, I’ll just show up.

    Stamp a bust on his huge fat melon. Good job Al, sign a no name who had one good game. See where that got ya? Hope it helps you sleep at night.

    I would rather take Walter at this point. This is an all time low.

  • 4evaRaider

    I hear ya the pm crew is like the movie quarantined LOL

  • http://blstb.msn.com/i/55/90A2853B6CFBCC2AFC987BB18B832.jpg vegas raider

    Another wasted year. The only way Jamarcus can keep the troops motivated is if he plays the best ball of his career in the weeks ahead, and I’m not too optimistic that it will happen.

    He will have his chance to make an impression next off-season, and if doesn’t make a good one, just cut him. Like it or not Jamarcus, the QB has to be a vocal leader, and one of the hardest-workers on the team. If he is not up to the job description, than find someone who will. Teammates would rather play for an over-achiever than an under-achiever, not matter the talent level.

  • 4evaRaider

    post menstrual Raiders lololololololololololaaaaaaaaaaalololololololol

  • DKnight007

    los raiders de don rober Says:
    October 28th, 2009 at 10:59 am
    Seymore is goona watch the playoffs from some east coast city wearing his new team’s colors…bye bye 1st round pick

    ^^^^^^^
    Nah…they either give him his money and sign him to an extension or franchise or more than likely Non-Exclusive Tag him.

    Non-Exclusive I believe means that if any team makes him an offer and he signs the offer sheet, the Raiders can match….if they don’t match the Raiders get TWO 1ST ROUND PICKS.

  • 4evaRaider

    l8er NATION

  • LA to TheBay

    Keep Seymour here.

    Draft some good players.

    Sign some good players.

    Hire effective coaches.

    Loosen the grip a bit, Al.

  • DKnight007

    Don’t matter anyway if the Raiders do get two 1st rounders for letting Seymour walk…..if the old stubborn crazy man Al is making the football decisons and making the picks…..the 1st rounders will be horrible waste picks!

    Lousy Al!

  • LA to TheBay

    Needed:

    C
    RG
    RT
    DT
    MLB
    SLB
    RCB

  • LA to TheBay

    Needs to play better:

    WRs
    QBs
    RBs

  • toec

    “Either the NFL felt sorry for Al Davis and didn’t hold its annual “screw the Raiders” offseason meeting with officials…”

    They had the meeting, ask Louis Murphy.

  • DKnight007

    4evaRaider Says:
    October 28th, 2009 at 6:35 am
    Morning Hwnrdr and NATION…

    If we were winning Hwnrdr everyone would be talking about this great play or that great play.We are losing so instead of talking about how 2 get better they character assassinate each-other.The posters in here have said many many many times how 2 get better and almost every single thought is correct.But after 6 years of giving correct ideas there is not much more 2 say.Big Al cant or wont listen 2 ANYONE else and they all feel their thoughts are meaningless 2 Big Al,so they take their aggressions out on the loyal fans…Themselves.When theres no one else 2 blame we turn on each-other,even tho our suggestions would help immensly,imo

    ^^^^^^^Thats another problem….out of the many problems in this organization!

    I have said this the last 3 years….AL DAVIS does not give a CRAP what us fans in the Raider Nation think….it’s all about him and his dictatorship!

    Thats main reason why he needs to go away….he doesn’t care about the fans opinion of him and how the “organization” is being run into the ground.

    Plus he has made HORRIBLE decisions since trading Gruden way…..stupidly I might add.

  • http://CableBumaye 909RaiderLifer

    “With the second pick in 2010 NFL draft, the Oakland Raiders select…..wait for it…..

    Taylor Mays, Safety, University of Southern California.

    Learn it, live it, love it…

    It’s safe to say the Rams have a lock on #1, but we are beginning to solidify our chances for #2..Yay…

  • http://blstb.msn.com/i/55/90A2853B6CFBCC2AFC987BB18B832.jpg vegas raider

    Raiders won’t let Seymour walk for nothing. That’s why the trade was fairly smart, if they franchise him or “tag” him, when he walks we will get our pick back.

    It’s like a free rental for a year, or if we do re-sign him, we are certainly getting more than what Al would do with a 1st round pick.

    Should be fun next off-season, Al franchising Seymour, him holding out, demanding to be traded. Can’t wait!!!

  • Damn They Suck

    ….and the saga that is the Oakland Raiders will continue….now and into the future.

  • DKnight007

    LA to TheBay Says:
    October 28th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
    Needed:

    C
    RG
    RT
    DT
    MLB
    SLB
    RCB

    ^^^^^^^
    Needed:

    A NEW OWNER/GM/PERSONNEL MAN/HEAD OF SCOUTING/DRAFT GURU/SOMEONE WHO LISTENS TO THE FANS…..and someone who doesn’t think he is the Emperor from star wars! LOL

  • LA to TheBay

    VR

    Or Al could be smart and make moves early.

    Reassure him he is redoubling his efforts to make a competitive team.

    I like what Cable tried and is trying to do, but its not working. I know a lot of you want the coaching carousel to stop. I say let it stop once we get the right coach.

    So that’s first thing.

    Second is to offer Seymour a deal. If he balks, franchise him.

    Third, In the meantime, sign the nastiest, hungriest FAs available, not neccecarily the best ‘athletes,’ but the best athletic football players.

    Fourth, draft intelligently. No skill players. None. Draft order should look something like DT, RT, MLB, SSLB, C, RG, DE, or basically like the last 5 drafts should have been.

    Seymour sees legitimate progress (or legitimate dollars), maybe he’s convinced to stay.

    Not sure of the NFL schedule of events, so I doubt you can get all of that accomplished before he tries to walk or sit, but I think step 1 would be critical.

    Overtures need to be made to Cowher, Holmgrenn, Shanahan (yes, I said it), Shottenheimer (yup), and Gruden (that’s right).

    Shanny and Shotty would be interesting because they hate the Raiders and Al Davis, which I think makes them perfect candidates to rebuild the team.

    Any of these coaches would need creative control, or at least a great deal of it.

    An offensive coordinator would be nice. I’d let Marshall stay as long as he’s allowed to run his defense.

    That being said, get ready for Al debuting the youngest NFL Head Coach to date, 25 year Old CIF Coach of the Year Wayne Mifflin and defensive coordinator Al Davis.

    Wayne and Al will draft three defensive backs, two wide receivers, and a tight end (to be converted to defensive end).

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  • LA to TheBay

    new post.

    DK

    A NEW OWNER/GM/PERSONNEL MAN/HEAD OF SCOUTING/DRAFT GURU/SOMEONE WHO LISTENS TO THE FANS
    =======================================================
    I was wishful thinking. This is bordeline delusional, my friend, but of course I know you’re just playin’ around. My Kool Aid would have to be mixed extra strong.

    ==================================================
    …..and someone who doesn’t think he is the Emperor from star wars! LOL
    ====================================================
    Wait he’s not?