Cable hopes to prod a better effort
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, October 28th, 2009 at 3:56 pm in Oakland Raiders.
News, notes and quotes from Wednesday’s open locker room and post-practice press briefing from coach Tom Cable:
– The only two players players coming off long-term injuries that have a chance to play against San Diego, according to Cable, are left guard Robert Gallery (broken fibula) and wide receiver Chaz Schilens (foot).
Gallery practiced in warmups and drills and got in a few reps. Schilens is still “real sore” and didn’t practice at all. It’s conceivable both could be back after the bye.
– Running back Darren McFadden has been a ghost since his minor knee surgery. He hasn’t been seen in the locker room during media availaibility since being injured nor has he been on the field during initial rehab stages during practice with the athletic training staff.
McFadden will be inactive for his fourth game, and it’s no slam dunk he’ll be back after the bye following the Chargers game.
– The Chargers have morphed into a passing team in part because of injuries on the offensive line as well as the health of LaDainian Tomlinson. With scatback Darren Sproles more suited to getting into pass patterns, joining wide receiver Vincent Jackson and tight end Antonio Gates as targets, San Diego plays a different style than the run-heavy teams primarily responisble for 12 consecutive wins over Oakland.
With the Raiders playing better against pass-first teams, San Diego could play into their hands much the same way Philadelphia did.
Coach Norv Turner stressed he wasn’t willing to abandon the run and believes the Chargers must get better at it if they hope to reach the postseason.
“We do have a talented group of receivers and we have a quarterback who is playing at a real high level, so certainly we want to be able to throw the football,” Turner told Bay Area reporters by conference call. “But to be the kind of team we want to be and continue to grow, we need to be able to run the football.”
– With the Raiders ranked 30th in run defense, Cable isn’t about to assume the Chargers will come out throwing, regardless of their more wide-open style.
“Based on what we’ve been through a couple of times now in terms of run defense, we’d be fools not to think they would try to run it,” Cable said.
– Some nighmarish rushing defense numbers _ the the Raiders have given up 200 or more yards rushing in three games (214 to Denver, 220 to the New York Giants, 316 to the New York Jets) and has lost those games by a combined score of 105-3.
The Raiders have given up 11 rushing touchdowns, tied for St. Louis for the most in the NFL, and have given up 133 touchdowns in 103 games (winning 26 of them) since the start of the 2003 season, the most in the NFL.
– Defensive end Richard Seymour was at a loss as to why the Raiders were struggling with a skill as fundamental as tackling.
“It is such a basic thing and obviously we need to do a better,” Seymour said. “We need to do a better job in practice. Maybe we make practice live, I don’t know.”
Cable was asked if he would consider live-tackling and said, “If it gets to that point, absolutely.”
After giving up 316 yards on the ground, you wonder what “that point” would be.
– Cable went to his farm roots for an analogy about playing with the kind of electricty the Raiders showed in Week 1 and again later against Philadelphia.
“You look at the first San Diego game all the way up to the last 2 1/2 minutes,” Cable said. “You look at the last drive on both offense and defense at Kansas City, you look at really the entire game in Philadelphia, and if you set that film aside and look at it, there’s a much different . . . electricity . . . If you look at the other four games you see a different team. As I told them, ‘it doesn’t look like you have a cattle prod up your rear.’ ”
The answer?
“To me, that’s making sure that we’re doing it right,” Cable said. “Eating, sleeping right, taking care of our bodies, doing all those things. We’ve had good effort on Sundays. But there’s a difference in having good effort and playing with the electricity you talked about.”
An inference that perhaps a few players have been staying out a little late and eating a little too much, perhaps?
– Turner on Russell: “Well, for young guys, the expectation is always there that everyone wants you to go out and play completely mistake-free, and that’s not going to happen. That’s how you grow. You go out and play and you have those experiences, and you learn from them. That’s part of, unfortunately, being a young quarterback.”
Turner is paying little attention to the 38-0 pasting the Raiders took against the Jets, instead focusing on the win over Philadelphia the previous week and a 24-20 season-opening win over Oakland, with Rivers finding Sproles for a 5-yard scoring pass with 18 seconds remaining.
“The Jets started two of those drives in that first quarter on the 3- and 4-yard line. It’s tough when you get down by 14 right off the bat,” Turner said. “I watched the Philadelphia game very closely in all three phases. The Raiders in that game were as physical a football game as you’re going to play in this league.”
– Khalif Barnes said he usually gives a loss 24 hours of “mourning” before he moves on, but that the Jets’ loss lasted a little longer. He has since put it aside and is focusing on outside linebacker Shaun Phillips, who got his first two sacks of the season last week against Kansas City and has 9.5 against the Raiders for his career.
“I know Shaun a little bit from playing against him at Purdue a couple of times,”’ Barnes said. “ To me, he’s just as dangerous as Merriman. He’s fast, he’s elusive, he’ll sneak on the edge, sometimes try and lull you to sleep and then he’ll hit you, he’s good with his hands.”
– Chargers wide receiver Vincent Jackson delivered a triple crown of cliches in his conference call with an “it is what it is,” a “one game at a time” and a “we can only control what we can control” in a matter of a few sentences.
– Isaiah Ekejiuba missed practice with a stomach ailment, and was joined by quarterback Bruce Gradkowski. Others who have missed time for the same thing include tight end Brandon Myers and defensive end Richard Seymour.
Cable said all players have been examined to make sure they don’t have the swine flu virus and that no coaches have been affected.
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October 28th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
…Al Davis is actually modeling his team after the Bad News Bears, and the Cleveland Indians in the movie Major League. The problem is, our Lou Brown is in ESPN’s MNF booth.
October 28th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
I think Cable and Russell have some kind of swine virus, look at them they practically sweat bacon
October 28th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
Cable hopes to produce a better effort? As opposed to him what, not wanting to produce a better effort? I believe in him now…
October 28th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
Draft Terrance Cody!! peace Raider fans til next time.Im out of here Go Raiders!!!!
October 28th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
Fat boy should let Cable wear his dunce cap….
October 28th, 2009 at 4:18 pm
Where is the nearest Tractor Supply Co. to Alameda?
We need to send Cable one of them thar cattle prods asap. got to be easier than trying to break 53 jaws.
October 28th, 2009 at 4:18 pm
“To me, that’s making sure that we’re doing it right,” Cable said. “Eating, sleeping right, taking care of our bodies, doing all those things. We’ve had good effort on Sundays. But there’s a difference in having good effort and playing with the electricity you talked about.”
So basically we’ve gone back to JV football?
Eat and sleep well. Play hard on game day.
Good god.
October 28th, 2009 at 4:18 pm
You can tell that these guys win a game and then they party all week just to get pasted the following week.
Then they become focused again. They’ll probably beat SD.
October 28th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
when Cable tries to give an explanation about something he starts off like…”Eating, sleeping right, taking care of our bodies”…then he has no idea what else it takes to win and just adds “doing all those things”…like he knows we know he knows…we score 8.9 points/game because we are doing all those things …
October 28th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
Unfortunately the Raiders are really going to stink it up in San Diego. I can’t find a reason to think otherwise. Whatever credibility the Raiders had with it’s fans, it lost last Sunday. I’m so angry because I paid good money for those seats, and it was the first game I took my daughter to. What a pathetic team. I feel sorry for season ticket holders, I wouldn’t even go if I had the tickets. This season reminds me of the hopelessness I felt when Mirer finished out their season as quarterback. What pathetic losers.
October 28th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
Buckeyeraider,
Enjoy it. I’m eager to see if Pryor can be developed into a passer.
Thus far, he’s only looked good against mid majors.
His team kept him in that USC game, but a few 1st downs here and there and more agression from Tressel, and thats a W. They really did outplay USC that day.
They just ended up with the ball last and played D too soft.
Very ironic that the Raiders suffered almost the exact same fate 2 days later.
Oh, well Nation, I’m out.
Be good.
1-2-3 get better.
October 28th, 2009 at 4:23 pm
LatotheBay,
Might be going to the big house again this year. Got to go two years ago, sit in a cold drizzling rain, but it was worth it. Beanie Wells ran wild and V. Gholston made himself a lot of money that day, beating Jake Long for two sacks. What a bust in the league he’s been. Did he even play Sunday? I’ve tried to black that game out of my head, but I don’t even remember his name being called. Only Calvin Pace, he was a beast.
October 28th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
Jerry, I agree that this game will follow the Eagles game (assuming turnovers are minimized). I doubt the Dolts will be able to deal with our blitz packages. And their D is not close to their prior years. But JR needs to show up and be ready play. From last week, he can’t even line us up in the proper formation and make the correct reads…on the first play of the game no less. Very frustrating. And our rookie WR’s need to catch the damn ball and stop complaining about being held/bumped/whatever. Not too worried about the run game with Fargas/Bush/Russell.
I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s Raiders 20-17 over the Dolts…30% chance.
October 28th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
Anyone heard of this flick yet?
I told you guys I was penning a script about Oakglenn. It’s now a reality.
(joking, Oak).
http://www.imdb.com/video/screenplay/vi2254176793/
October 28th, 2009 at 4:33 pm
we need an O-Line and a play-caller. honestly these 2 things are 95% of our problem.
October 28th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
I understand Al’s strategy regarding the draft. He likes to take chances with fast athletes believing you can coach them up on fundamentals/Technique. You cant teach speed/athleticism. However, this whole obsession with the stopwatch is pissing me off. I was hoping for Rey M in the draft, and found Frantz Joseph an intriguing prospect, but Jerry said nope. they lack “Raider speed.” What the hell is that? The Raiders once drafted Matt Millen a DT from Penn state in the second round and converted him to MLB. He couldn’t run a lick, but he filled the A gaps with cement.Greg Biekert wasn’t anchoring any relay teams at Colorado, but he was a smart, physical Football Player! The Raiders need more players like these, and less track stars.
October 28th, 2009 at 4:45 pm
LA2BAY, Huge LOL. I agree. Madden talked about getting back to basics before the ‘76 season, but he meant Cover 3, Cover 1… Getting back to basics as in getting sleep, etc? Wow. Yeh, so, Cable is basically preparing his Raiders for grammar school.
October 28th, 2009 at 4:45 pm
RaiderYYZ,
play caller a need? WITHOUT AN O-LINE it does not matter which play is called, even if you did have HOFs at skill positions (which ain’t the case here).
October 28th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
The Raiders will get worked Sunday. They already got their big win of the year against Phily. From here on out, it’s just a couple of wins against teams we should beat, and the rest losing streaks.
October 28th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
I’m a Raider fan of over 30 years. Cable, nothing you, Al, or anyone else in the Raiders organization does a damn thing for me anymore. Stop talking, all of you, and run this team like it should be run and win again.
The Raiders are the laughing stock of the NFL. They have been ruined from top to bottom. I will stay a fan and hope for the best for the Silver and Black, but I also am not dumb enough to believe anything except what the numbers are in the W/L column. Win games, make this franchise great again, or step aside and/or get the hell out of town. Yeah, I’m pissed. Anyone who knows me personally and knows the kind of fan I am wouldn’t believe this note. But I have reached rock bottom with the Raiders.
October 28th, 2009 at 4:52 pm
I still don’t understand how Sanjay Lal is still the WR’s coach with this team. If we are trying to install an offense based on timing patterns how do you have a coach with the least amount of experience working with the position group with the least experience. Lal has to go.
Cable’s comment about the players eating sleeping and taking care of there bodies needs to be followed up with cutting some player. Make an example of him. Live tackling drills all week long and no days off when the team loses. If Al wants to be a players GM thats fine but he needs to let someone within the organization be the hammer.
i think Cable is a good coach but he is in over his head. Bring back Marc Trestman and dump Lal already!
October 28th, 2009 at 4:58 pm
Brien the Grand Guru mentioned it. Players out all nite and dragging in the game. Cable mentioned it. I said, after the last game, that was not professional football out there. Professionals go out, take their lives seriously, do their jobs, and then they have five months to do what the fook they want on their own time. Maybe the team should be in a hotel for home games. You are not in your room, you are not going to play. Other teams have done it with guys not disciplined enough to take their careers seriously.
October 28th, 2009 at 5:24 pm
I actually wouldn’t be shocked if the Raiders come out and somehow beat the Chargers. Expectations will be up, playoffs will be considered a longshot but still possible, we’ll all be looking forward to beating the Chiefs after the bye …
Then we’ll lose by 2 TDs to KC at home.
October 28th, 2009 at 5:29 pm
Oakglen, its a good time to get behind Cable right? His trajectory is off the charts, right? RAH RAH RAH !!! Go Cable Go! Go Cable Go!
# Oakglenn Says:
October 23rd, 2009 at 8:30 pm
MR are you drinking?? If not, whatever you are on, cut the dose. As I posted earlier, Cable is 5-7 in his last 12 and 4-4 in his last 8. Coming from a team with a .250 over the last 5+ years, that is a good trajectory. He is doing a much better job than anyone since Gruden. Might be time to get behind what this guy is preaching.
October 28th, 2009 at 5:35 pm
Thank God Cable has these guys going in the right direction or we could get blown out by the NYJ @ home, right Oak?
C’mon guys get behind this guy!! Cable! Cable! Cable!
October 28th, 2009 at 5:37 pm
Check out JRuss at a party with Marcus Spears in March 09. Off-season training in full effect.
http://www.totalprosports.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/marcusjamarcus.bmp
NOW I HATE HIM. He’s a pro athelete and he has a beer belly?? I’ll start it now……with their first pick in the second round the Raiders pick…….. Sam Bradford!!
October 28th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
Dt42 that pic is about 6 months old.
FYI…thats “Black Moses”. The NFL will know what kinda Qb we have by mid year Dt42, if you dont believe me just ask priest.
October 28th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
Oh i forgot March is when off season workouts start and JRuss didn’t show up to the voluntary workouts becuase his mother underwent surgry. Well that explains the beer gut on a 20 something year old pro athlete.
http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2009/03/27/cable-continues-to-add-to-his-coaching-staff/#comments
October 28th, 2009 at 5:47 pm
No argument here on #32 & #33.
October 28th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
Or #33 & #34
October 28th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
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October 28th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
Or #34 & #35
October 28th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
LOL, MB. I think Oakglenn just wants to get behind Cable because for so long Cable has been behind him, if you know what I mean.
October 28th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
Or #35 & #36
October 28th, 2009 at 5:50 pm
That show Intervention needs to kick Oakglenn’s door down and force him to stop making predictions.
October 28th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
#35 & #37
October 28th, 2009 at 6:05 pm
Got ya, MB. Thank you.
October 28th, 2009 at 6:28 pm
4 a team that has stunk against the run for yrs. and counting how haven’t they considered live practices before, oh yeah, al.
October 28th, 2009 at 6:45 pm
Cable is a JOKE Part I:
Cable was asked if he would consider live-tackling and said, “If it gets to that point, absolutely.”
OK Tom, that “point” must be the final two games of the season when we trying to go home for the offseason and stop another team from making the playoffs.
Cable is a JOKE Part II:
Cable said all players have been examined to make sure they don’t have the swine flu virus and that no coaches have been affected.
Cable has what JaMarcus has as far as passing the blame. So now the players are probably sick but not the coaches.
October 28th, 2009 at 6:56 pm
Bottom Line- The raiders simply are NOT that good.-in ALL departments. They beat the chiefs who are VERY weak barely and Philly has not beat a good team yet this season and are overated and weak as well. The better the opposition the bigger the blowout- plain and simple. All of this talent nonsense and motivation BS is a waste. Poor Ownership-Poor Coaching-Poor Drafting-Poor Trades-Poor Talent-Poor Team
October 28th, 2009 at 7:13 pm
they will win to spite Russell.
October 28th, 2009 at 7:22 pm
The owner is a zombie who probably can’t go alone to the toilet.
The coach is Barney Ruble
The WR coach is Lal Pakistani
And the QB is the big brown thing.
Record – 7 losing seasons and counting…
October 28th, 2009 at 7:51 pm
Never thought I’d say this…
Gallery to the rescue??
Go Raiders!!
October 28th, 2009 at 8:04 pm
Hire Chucky as the coach and Madden as a consultant. Draft offensive linemen in the first round and draft football players not track stars. Have Al declared metally incompetent.
October 28th, 2009 at 8:05 pm
MR, not that I think that the raiders will win this weekend, but you sure seem to enjoy patting yourself on the back after they lose.
October 28th, 2009 at 8:25 pm
This team lacks DISCIPLINE and it shows in every facet of the game.
The most Depressing is the lack of Preperation (Jr’s leaving early and DHB’s EXTRA 15 minutes of playing catch a day) are a JOKE. If you play as HORRIBLY as these two have played you should be LIVING at the facility, but hey, i FORGOT, you two got PAID, and now it doesn’t matter.
What a JOKE these two ae becoming….
October 28th, 2009 at 8:34 pm
Im not sayin JR is good. I’m not sayin he’s gonna be good but a lot of you need to quit bein so tunnel visioned. Let me do this without the names.
Two unproven RB’s with a lot of hype.
One Vet RB who would be a back up anywhere else.
Two rookie WR.
A slot WR who spent the last two years on other teams PRACTICE SQUAD!
The only two linemen that would be starters on any other team are both injured.
A solid TE.
Maybe he’s gonna suck. Maybe he already does but benching someone for a lack of performance with that supporting crew is jumpin the gun and if this team is gonna have a shot then they’re gonna have to stick it out with him till he gets at least a decent cast. If you think benching him is the answer then youre an idiot. Thats more of a setback than anything.
October 28th, 2009 at 8:41 pm
Scary whent he “Coach”, ‘hopes’ for a better effort.You mean after a 38-0 DISMANTLING you can only ‘HOPE’.
Tom, get your bags, you are way out of your league and need to go.
You should have been FIRED on Sunday after the most ‘humiliating loss in franchise history’, but Al can’t stand up to roam the sidelines…
We’ve become the NFL’s version of the Warriors, how PATHETIC!
October 28th, 2009 at 8:49 pm
The next time we see a report saying that Jamarcus is the fist in, or last to leave the facility, it’ll be the first. Has anyone even heard him talk about ‘extra’ work, nah, he’s “playing well enough”, (alledgedly) and doesn’t need it, it’s all someone elses problem.
This Dude is a SLACKER!
He needs to develop a work ethic, cause being big and tough with a rocket arm, aren’t going to get you wins…
October 28th, 2009 at 8:58 pm
Depressing: We haven’t hit the bye week and we are talking about the draft.
October 28th, 2009 at 9:01 pm
Isn’t funny how every coach playing the Raiders are making excuses for JaMarcus … hoping JR plays against for the easy win.
October 28th, 2009 at 9:10 pm
I heard the Jets sent over two game balls to the Raiders Locker room, one for Old Al and the other for Jamarcus. They couldn’t have done it w/out the 14 points JR gave them in the 1st qtr…pathetic!
October 28th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
[...] [...]
October 28th, 2009 at 9:36 pm
Cable said. “Eating, sleeping right, taking care of our bodies, doing all those things.
What about eating your vitamins?
The Hulkster says all you little Hulkamaniacs have to eat your vitamins too…
October 28th, 2009 at 9:56 pm
Now it all makes sense.
Cable learned to coach by watching Wrestlemania.
He rammed Hanson’s head into the turnbuckle.
Everyone has the script he’s going to run. The other teams pretend not to know what’s coming.
The refs get distracted and look the other way at the crucial moment.
Then, just as the fans start counting them out, Cable will tear away his shirt to screams of the fans and the Raiders will the game…
Or maybe they always play the bad guys…
The Iron Sheiks of the NFL.
October 28th, 2009 at 10:39 pm
Cable needs to be fired! He is a joke!
October 28th, 2009 at 10:46 pm
Another good O-line coach wasted just like Callahan. Both of these guys should have been kept as O-line coaches.
October 28th, 2009 at 10:54 pm
How can we play 2 good games, and not show up for the other five?
We played The Chargers & Eagles well, but the rest of the games we were invisible!
October 28th, 2009 at 10:56 pm
So, first there was the walk-through during camp. Then there was “1..2..3..Get Better!” Now the players just need to take care of their bodies and eat & sleep better. Is this a football team or a rehab facility?
October 28th, 2009 at 11:01 pm
How do you allow this to happen Al? We are a joke! Get a coach a real HC with exp! You can’t live forever. You need help, so hire a HC who can help you with this young team.
October 28th, 2009 at 11:06 pm
Yay fibulae and cattle prods! Yay! That oughtta sell some tix to the next home game.
The Ghost of McFade, not a wisp nor a whisper, just a whimper and then gone. WTF is up with that young phantom? Kijana Carter redux?
October 28th, 2009 at 11:11 pm
LMAO @ 59.
October 28th, 2009 at 11:25 pm
M Lonetree Says:
October 28th, 2009 at 11:06 pm
Yay fibulae and cattle prods! Yay! That oughtta sell some tix to the next home game.
The Ghost of McFade, not a wisp nor a whisper, just a whimper and then gone. WTF is up with that young phantom? Kijana Carter redux?
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OMG was thinking exact same thing.
HOPING we get better. Our O line with Barnes may eb better at toting the rock and with Gallery back, who knows?
October 29th, 2009 at 1:08 am
# texguy Says:
October 28th, 2009 at 8:05 pm
MR, not that I think that the raiders will win this weekend, but you sure seem to enjoy patting yourself on the back after they lose.
……….
That’s right. I’ve said before and I’ll say again, I’ll be a “real fan” again when Al’s gone. In the meantime, my prediction is that we suck every single year. And why shouldn’t I take pride in being right? Get off my nuts, moron.
October 29th, 2009 at 1:58 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 29th, 2009 at 1:08 am
# texguy Says:
October 28th, 2009 at 8:05 pm
MR, not that I think that the raiders will win this weekend, but you sure seem to enjoy patting yourself on the back after they lose.
……….
That’s right. I’ve said before and I’ll say again, I’ll be a “real fan” again when Al’s gone. In the meantime, my prediction is that we suck every single year. And why shouldn’t I take pride in being right? Get off my nuts, moron.
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Shadenfruede
October 29th, 2009 at 1:58 am
Actually the Raiders WILL win this week end.
October 29th, 2009 at 4:48 am
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October 29th, 2009 at 5:50 am
Good Morning Nation!!!
Taking care of their bodies and eating and sleeping well…hmmm, sounds like we have to do once we turn 30…
October 29th, 2009 at 6:08 am
GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S, HWNDR, TAKE CARE OF YOUR BODY,EXERCISE,EAT AND SLEEP PROPERLY,WILL U LIVE LONGER ? NO…BUT U WILL DIE HEALTHY..
October 29th, 2009 at 6:11 am
HOPE THAT’S MORE THAN THE COIN-TOSS NnAMDI21, POST-66
October 29th, 2009 at 6:12 am
los raiders de don rober Says:
October 28th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
2 weeks ago we had a gambling discussion going on. DHB vs Crabtree, and how many games it would take crabs to surpass DHB…so…DHB 7 games 4rec 64 yds…crabs 1 game 5rec 56yds….pffff, so much for thar comparison.
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How about this proposition. How long before SF backup QB Alex Smith throws more TD passes than JaMarcus?
No wait…Nevermind…been done…OR
Does Crabtree snag more passes this year than all the Raider WR’s combined???
October 29th, 2009 at 6:23 am
Good Morning Dirt Lot…yup, living healthy doesn’t necessarily mean living longer. But you’re right, you’ll die healthier.
As for the SF comparisons…as sad as that is, I am one who deos not care what they do on the other side of the Bay! They can all disappear for all I care!!!
October 29th, 2009 at 6:30 am
I think the Raids will be competitive against SD.
While it’s impossible to pick them to win any game with JR at QB, I expect them to give the Chargers a battle.
The Raider DL won’t be facing a very good offensive line. In games against the NYJ, NYG, and even Hou, they faced a very good offensive front and were blown out. Against the weaker offensive lines of the Eagles and KC, they were able to keep the score down and the game competitive. That was the case for the first 45 mins against SD as well.
It’s doubtful the Raids will win. It’s doubtful the Raids will score more than 14 points. Still, this is a game that can be competitive well into the contest if the defense hasn’t completely gone in the tank.
Pretty sad that the season has disintigrated to the point where just being competitive is a moral victory, but that’s the current state of this team.
You simply can not win games with an offense this inept. Any lead by the opposition seems insurmountable and it makes watching the games almost unbearable.
I’ve stated before that for the Raids to be competitive again, they must be able to put together some drives and actually score some points.
Job number one has to be to build an offensive line.
It all starts up front and the Raids simply don’t have the horses there to get the job done.
In all honesty, the Raids aren’t ever going anywhere with JR at QB. I don’t care if he gets in shape and suddenly develops a work ethic. The truth is Russell isn’t bright enough to be an effective NFL QB. He’s a certified moron.
At best, he might be able to effectively manage a game or not lose a game, with a very competent cast and good coaching supporting him.
Regardless of Russell’s failures the Raids must build an offensive line foundation. I don’t think the RBs are too bad and the WR/TE corp, although young and inexperienced, has potential.
So put together an offensive line, and take it from there.
A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step. The Raids must take that step, and they have to take it in the right direction.
It’s almost a certainty JR will go down as one of the biggest busts of all time. Either way, the Raids have to put together a good offensive line so JR or his successor has a fighting chance to succeed.
This crap of scoring 10 points a game has to stop.
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repost (above) by RAIDERMAN99 yesterday.
excellent. couldn’t agree more
October 29th, 2009 at 6:32 am
Just insert any other rookie WR’s name for comparison. Jeremy Maclin, Kenny Britt, Percy Harvin, Nicks, Collie, Knox, Wallace…
October 29th, 2009 at 6:33 am
Yup…couldn’t agree more! I keep hoping that one game I’ll be watching and I see an offense that scores like NO. Hey, I can dream, can’t I?
October 29th, 2009 at 6:34 am
Running back Darren McFadden has been a ghost since his minor knee surgery.
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McFadden has been a ghost since being drfted!!!
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The Chargers have morphed into a passing team in part because of injuries on the offensive line….
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They’ll be a running team this Sunday!!!
Trade McFaddy for some run stopping!!!!
October 29th, 2009 at 6:39 am
PREACH IT ROCKSTAR !!!
October 29th, 2009 at 6:41 am
Graddy is sick? we might see Charlie Frye in there by halftime … which might not be a bad thing
Jerry Mac & David White both thought he was the most impressive QB in OTA’s & training camp
October 29th, 2009 at 6:45 am
How about this proposition. How long before SF backup QB Alex Smith throws more TD passes than JaMarcus?
No wait…Nevermind…been done…
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ouch. i haven’t thought about comparing the busts across the bay. Alex Smith threw more TD passes in one half than Russell has in 7 football games. that stings! it burns!
October 29th, 2009 at 6:50 am
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October 29th, 2009 at 6:56 am
If we pull this one off, I just may call in sick on Monday….haha! No, wait…got to rub it in my bosses face (he’s an SD fan)…but…we’ll see. Can we really use “on any given Sunday” for this team?
October 29th, 2009 at 6:57 am
I honestly hope this is Cable’s most conservative game as far as playcalling.
run, run and then run some more.
throw in a reverse to DHB or a HB option pass from Bush to Miller. maybe a few dumpoff passes to Gary Russell or Mike Bush. Zach Miller if he’s not doubled
JR chucking passes downfield = loss. If he feels the pressure and can’t escape he needs to throw the ball away or take a sack. turnovers will kill us.
play field position. use Jano & Lechler. We need Ike on ST! Tony Stewart is banged up too. Brown is out. Sam Williams needs to be a leader (gasp) because Sproles is a dangerousd return man. we saw that in Week 1. Maybe Mike Mitchell will have an impact there?
October 29th, 2009 at 7:02 am
My run heavy game plan vs SD Run every play whether wildcat with Bush at qb and Fargas at rb to reverses to DHB and letting Lechler boom all day long. Sounds crazy but gives us better chance than 3 and out a no time possession next game time it how long from when D get off the field to 3 plays and bam back out there.GO RAIDERSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!
October 29th, 2009 at 7:02 am
20 points (week 1) is the most we’ve scored all season. the dolts can’t run the ball or stop the run
the Raiders strong suits (if we have any) are running the ball and pass defense.
We should be able to shut down Rivers. Tomlinson & Merriman were essentially non factors in the first game. they are done imo. We need to focus on Sproles & Gates. keep Nnamdi on Jackson all game long. CJ can handle Chambers.
October 29th, 2009 at 7:08 am
good morning AM crew!
Dirt Lot, Hwnrdr, TW and others.
Gabby, where’s the coffee? lets get it goin’ here little missy
what are your thoughts on the OAK/SD game fellas?
do we even have a chance?
if we get blown out, will it cost Cable his job at the bye week?
October 29th, 2009 at 7:15 am
My thoughts: I believe that this game is winnable. We are supposed to be a run first team, but it seems like that we pass more often. Maybe because Cable is trying to gain Russell confidence, maybe not. I think confidence will come when the game is not decided on him.
As for Cable’s job…if we do get blown out, Al loves to dump coaches at bye. I hope not, because who is out there that would want to come here? No one.
But to answer your question…yes we do have a chance. We just have to play like we did opening night and 2 weeks ago!
And hurry up with the coffee Gabby!!! LOL
October 29th, 2009 at 7:18 am
In Wednesday’s meeting of the Oakland Raiders, Head Coach Tom Cable is going over the gameplan for Sunday’s contest against the Chargers and has tape of that team being played for his squad to review.
Cable: OK, as we can see here, people – the Chargers have morphed into a pass-happy team. To defend them we’re going to need pressure.
Morrison: So is Marshall going over our blitz packages later?
Cable: Uh, no. Seymour, Ellis, Kelly, and (sigh) Money will be responsible for that.
Ellis: Can we please stop calling this fool ‘Money’?
Cable: I tried, but Mr. Davis insists if Warr– Money insists. Richard, we need to keep our composure, so no hair pulling.
Someone in the crowd: Tell that to your wife, she probably wouldn’t be too happy!
Cable: (sigh) I heard that, Mr. Davis.
Cable wipes his face in frustration and tries to shake it off.
Cable: Offense. Now listen, the Chargers don’t have much of a pass rush and their big nose guard, as you know, is out for the season, so, our plan of attack will be—-
Fargas: Pound the rock!! Play action!
Team (unison): Yeah!
Cable: Uh, no. Actually, we’ll be, um, airing it out. Our first play will be five verticals guys.
Russell: Who got curly fries?
Cable: Now listen, people. This is a big game, so you have to make sure you don’t party all night. Eat right and get the proper amount of sleep the night before or else we’re gonna get barbequed out there.
Russell: Who got BBQ?
October 29th, 2009 at 7:20 am
Raiders WR Chaz Schilens not practicing today, still questionable 10 weeks after foot surgery.
-David White (twitter)
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come on Heyward-Bey. we need you brother!
October 29th, 2009 at 7:23 am
Raiders WR Chaz Schilens not practicing today, still questionable 10 weeks after foot surgery.
-David White (twitter)
If only we had a vetran wide receiver….
October 29th, 2009 at 7:30 am
I wonder if he’s healing correctly.
I had the exact same injury in high school, left 5th metatarsel. No surgery.
I broke it running on an uneven surface. The first few days, it hurt like hell and I couldn’t walk on it.
Within a week, it was sore as hell, but I could get around with the aid of a walking cast.
Within three weeks, I was jogging lightly.
Within five weeks, I was jogging, running, and cutting on it.
At the time, I was playing hockey, which is a different sport and does require less impact on the foot, but still plenty of movement and the ability to “crossover,” or place one foot across the other, then cut off the foot to provide a burst and repeat the motion.
Six weeks later I was playing in a playoff game, crossing over, skating hard, jumping, diving, blocking shots, etc.
It would seem to me it’s not healing well or they’re being overly cautious. Chaz is sorely needed for this team.
If its a question of avoiding contact to prevent reinjury and being lost for the season – understandable.
If its still sore and he’s just not ready to go on it after 10 weeks?
Man up.
October 29th, 2009 at 7:30 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 29th, 2009 at 7:20 am
Raiders WR Chaz Schilens not practicing today, still questionable 10 weeks after foot surgery.
-David White (twitter)
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come on Heyward-Bey. we need you brother!
He had his chance and dropped it in the end zone!!! But you’re right…
October 29th, 2009 at 7:32 am
That drop by DHB was inexcusable.
Its a seemingly meaningless TD, but in a 38-0 game, you have to have SOMETHINHG to build from.
Going over and complaining to the official will not get it done either and just makes you look like a fool on a catchable ball.
October 29th, 2009 at 7:37 am
LA,
Schilens is still “real sore” and didn’t practice at all. – Jerry Mac
we do have a veteran WR. 3 of them. Walker, Higgins & Watkins. too bad Higgins is labeled “for ST use only” and Walker is in the doghouse. Watkins wasn’t good enough for the Cardinals & Falcons practice squads. I think now we know why.
Pretty sad to think that Ronald Curry, Ashley Lelie & Drew Carter would be upgrades over Walker, Holland & Watkins on our 53 man roster. who woulda thunk it?
October 29th, 2009 at 7:39 am
I was against the signings of Jerry Porter & Matt Jones prior to preseason …
now i’m thinking “why not?”
October 29th, 2009 at 7:45 am
RRS,
“If only we had a vetran wide receiver….”
My attempt at sarcasm.
And you’re absolutely right.
Higgins is physically ready to go, but not mentally.
That shot he took, by Weddle I believe? I know it was the safety, really jarred him upstairs more than anything, IMO.
It was a perfectly thrown ball. Right on him, into a tight window.
The problem is, the pass was telegraphed, and the safety had it on his radar the whole way.
JaMarcus owes Higgins an apology and a ‘get well soon’ card, some chicken noodle soup and a teddy bear or something.
Walker is just in the dog house, plain and simple.
31 other teams would look at their WR group and start Walker, Murphy, and Higgins in the slot.
I see the logic in rolling with you rookies to gain experience if you have nothing to play for except a learning experience.
Otherwise, if you’re trying to win games, you’re really left praying that your offense turns the corner and your coaching up of young guys is up to par.
October 29th, 2009 at 7:47 am
Dam, I still wish that Carter did not get hurt last season. I would have loved to see what he could have done to this offense!
October 29th, 2009 at 7:50 am
Bo, was that you I saw asking for directions to the local high school at around 2:50 PM?
Shame on you….
…for not inviting me.
October 29th, 2009 at 7:53 am
Attention, confused, unwed, undereducated American teen girls! Want to assure you get pregnant and contribute nicely to the dire teen pregnancy stats the fundamentalists and moral crusaders are always trotting out as evidence of humanity’s debauched downfall?
That’s easy: Just live in a state where fundamentalist religion dominates! Turns out your odds of getting knocked up in one of America’s sanctimonious, sexually uninformed flyover states are much higher than, say, in an educated, godless liberal city, presumably because a higher percentage of folk who live there shun birth control, have god-awful/nonexistent sex education and are generally terrified of their bodies, sex, and sticky slippery things that go bump in the night. Isn’t irony fun?
http://health.usnews.com/articles/health/healthday/2009/09/16/teen-birth-rates-higher-in-states-where-religion.html
October 29th, 2009 at 7:56 am
LOL
October 29th, 2009 at 8:00 am
When people elect politicians based on a ‘value system,’ they are truly lost.
Most politicians preaching church and family and values seem to be the ones getting caught in airport bathrooms tapping their feet, looking for some action.
Also ironic are those who are duped into believing their candidate is the champion of change and will take them to the promised land. Meanwhile, the escalation of a war is being contemplated and insurance comapnies should be sweating a public option for healthcare, one that will never happen because whatever bill they pass will be watered down to the point where you wonder why anything was passed at all.
Tragic, really.
I guess I shouldn’t talk because I have a closet full of Raider jersies, Madden 10, and NFL Game Rewind. Let’s not even get started on all the goodies my girl’s mom bought from QVC, and my mom’s unhealthy obsession with Dancing With the Stars and whatever else the networks tell her to watch.
We’re all victims of the consumer culture. And if you’re not, you probably live in a log cabin in the woods and you might as well be the unibommer (not sure if that word/comment will be modified, hence the mis-spelling).
Oh, and go Raider (Becker).
October 29th, 2009 at 8:06 am
Now, back to the game.
The Raiders can beat the Chargers by duplicating the physicality they displayed in week 1 and the scheme they used in week 6.
The key will be to get started early, and limit the number of points left on the field, and ELIMINATE careless turnovers.
October 29th, 2009 at 8:10 am
Gallery is back, lets hope that means we actually can run the ball again…
October 29th, 2009 at 8:17 am
Nice treatise LA. Gop Raiders.
October 29th, 2009 at 8:21 am
^Go
LOL
October 29th, 2009 at 8:35 am
LAto Bay,
the agent of change, the change you can believe in man wasn’t talking about altering things, he was talking about the many people standing on the street corner hat in hand asking, “Can you spare a brother a dime?”
While the usual suspects sit in their ivory towers and wallow in their next conquest.
The Games People Play.
oh yeah, Go Raiders.
October 29th, 2009 at 8:40 am
Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
October 29th, 2009 at 8:17 am
Nice treatise LA. Gop Raiders.
That’s a Freudian slip, if I ever saw one, lol.
Announced: The Raiders want victory….with honor.
October 29th, 2009 at 8:44 am
Well said, M, as usual.
October 29th, 2009 at 8:51 am
The American people are easily excitable, and have very short memories.
You can only excite them with so much by dangling carrots and superficial upgrades (the same could be said of the Raiders).
The bottom line is, the more things change, the more they stay the same.
Ike had it right. We had to guard against the military/industrial complex.
The industrial and technological revolutions can’t elevate a society when technology is used to destroy and industry is used to suppress.
Even when technology upgrades something like healthcare, those in dire need with no means have no access. ERs and free clinics are filled with those that can confirm this.
Even when industry upgrades something like production, those in dire need of a job are left with no access, as those positions are moved overseas.
Meanwhile, we’re entertained and successfully distracted.
October 29th, 2009 at 8:53 am
DMAC MIA????
October 29th, 2009 at 8:53 am
If the Raiders throw no forward passes on offense and blitz every single snap on defense this upcoming Sunday I would bet that they would end up closer in the final score than against Gang Green.
Freedom’s just another word for nothin’ left to lose…
October 29th, 2009 at 8:55 am
DMAC Says:
October 29th, 2009 at 8:53 am
DMAC MIA????
Oh you didn’t hear? If I can find it, I’ll repost exactly what happened.
October 29th, 2009 at 8:55 am
LA to Bay,
if you haven’t seen it
http://www.thestoryofstuff.com/
October 29th, 2009 at 8:57 am
LA to TheBay: You can WRITE. I’m not saying I necessarily agree with everything you say, mind you, but, damn, you can really string the words together.
October 29th, 2009 at 8:57 am
Freedom’s just another word for nothin’ left to lose…
So go for broke.
But, play to your strengths if you’re gonna throw the kitchen sink at someone.
Why air it out when your WRs can’t catch and your QB can’t throw accurately?
High percentage, Tommy Boy.
October 29th, 2009 at 8:57 am
TVs Anson Williams Says:
October 29th, 2009 at 8:57 am
LA to TheBay: You can WRITE. I’m not saying I necessarily agree with everything you say, mind you, but, damn, you can really string the words together.
Thank you sir, however I am no M.
That cat can write.
October 29th, 2009 at 8:59 am
Raider-405 Says:
Seriously, we STILL DONT KNOW what knee McFadden had surgury on. He wasnt injured in the field of play, we all know that.
WTF is up there….
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After a disappointing loss to the Houston Texans, a game in which he had ran for negative yardage, Raiders 1st round pick, running back Darren McFadden, was strolling to the bus to join his teammates when he received a phone call.
McFadden: Hello?
Caller (female voice): Darren!
McFadden: Yeah, who this?
Caller: Don’t act like you can play me, muthaphukka, and don’t gimme that ‘who this,’ you KNOW who this is.
McFadden: Sheila?
Caller: Try again, foo.
McFadden: Lisa.
Caller: Have you seriously been phukkin that many h03s?
McFadden: Well, um…
Caller: Dammit, don’t you remember Atlanta?
McFadden: Nah, I was pretty crunked. Teri? Nah, nah, that was KC. Tracy? Susie? Phuong Trang?
An assailant with a bad weave and tacky pumps leaps from behind a car in the parking lot, wielding a Louisville Slugger. It’s our mysterious caller.
McFadden: Oh, it’s you! Damn, we had a hell of a time didn’t we? Uh, what was your name again?
The weaved assailant bull rushes McFadden with the fury of an outside linebacker. McFadden tries to dodge her attack, but trips over his shoelaces and does a face plant.
The assailant proceeds to pummel McFadden repeatedly, striking his knee with a full swing that would have gotten a fastball out of a few ballparks.
Caller: Hah, how you like THAT, punk?! Come on kids, get some.
A horde of toddlers appear from all directions and swarm McFadden, kicking, biting, and ear-pulling.
McFadden: B;ch, didn’t I have a Trojan on when I hit it?
Caller: That ain’t stoppin’ ME from gettin’ paid. Once I’m done with you, I’m headin’ to Ray Lewis’ house.
October 29th, 2009 at 9:04 am
# LA to TheBay Says:
October 29th, 2009 at 8:57 am
TVs Anson Williams Says:
October 29th, 2009 at 8:57 am
LA to TheBay: You can WRITE. I’m not saying I necessarily agree with everything you say, mind you, but, damn, you can really string the words together.
Thank you sir, however I am no M.
That cat can write.
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Oh yeah, him too. It’s a veritable golden age.
October 29th, 2009 at 9:08 am
First play of the game against the Jets.
Formation!!?, Formation!!? WTF does it matter what the formation is if your RT is blown completely up and you call 4 deep with an empty backfeild?
Formation!!?? (Mora)
October 29th, 2009 at 9:09 am
I predict a Raider victory on Sunday. We are playing a pass happy team coached by Norv Turner. It doesn’t get any better than that.
October 29th, 2009 at 9:12 am
M, preciate the link. Interesting stuff.
October 29th, 2009 at 9:16 am
1) show up to play
Cablevision, PLEASE give JaMarcus the chance to be successful. Where are the 2 tight-end sets? Do we really need Hey-Bey running 30 yards down the field every play?
At least give us 3rd and 5, 3rd and 4…
3rd and long with our wr’s isn’t going to win football games.
IT’s NOT THAT COMPLICATED…
October 29th, 2009 at 9:20 am
That’s easy: Just live in a state where fundamentalist religion dominates!
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Watch out Bo, Dakota will call you a liar.lol
October 29th, 2009 at 9:21 am
Lets analyize what would have happened on the first play if JR had not fumbled.
10 yd tripping penalty to Barnes puts us on the half yd line.
Cable calls up the deep ball just because being “aggressive” is part of it.
JR drops back and steps out of bounds and gives up the safety.
Think about the play calling here….with the best punter in the world sitting on your bench.
October 29th, 2009 at 9:22 am
Larz,
Yeah, fair of Cable to blame Russell for not lining them up right (although Bush should be aware of this as well, seeing as how they all practice together – or one could only assume), but to ask him to check down while he’s being sacked is asking a bit much.
He was actually throwing the ball when he was hit and it was borderline incomplete.
The pass in the endzone was just like Russell said, a 50/50. He’s trying to get his receiver to make a play and the pass is placed so that its defender/receiver/ball.
Watkins goes down and Revis climbs the ladder and makes an outstanding (WR-like…hint, hint) play.
The first INT is completely inexcusable, though.
I think at that point, Cable was frustrated and impatient. He wanted to make a statement and see if his team would rally around a differnt signal caller.
I’m glad he took at least partial responsibility for it and I don’t see him calling a similar game this Sunday.
Now, where Russell really lost me was the post game interview. Man up, MF.
October 29th, 2009 at 9:23 am
121:
Dead on!!
JR is neither good enough or bad enough to have cost us that game.
He had plenty of help starting with the play calling.
October 29th, 2009 at 9:23 am
If I were JR I would be trying to get myself out of the asylum, before this coach and the “madbomber” offense gets him killed.
Contract settlement resign with an established team with a veteran QB and a “smart” coach,…sit on the bench and wait for your chance.
His statements are reflecting his desire to play here thats all.
October 29th, 2009 at 9:25 am
View at your own risk. If you are having a bad day don’t look at it. If you are having a good day don’t let it screww up day it is very alarming.
Yes, it is the highlights of the Raiders-Jets game. What bothers me the most besides Russel’s play, he deserved to get pulled 100%. I support this guy but you can not make an excuse for the way he played. Plus, he holds the ball to d@mn long. If it is not there throw the ball out of bounds.
What kills me the most is Sanchez was running around like welcome back Carter to the Sweat Hoggs. Dunking on our goal post, laughing, picking flowers, doing back flips. Heck he even had time to eat a hot dog during the game!!!Not one person took it upon themselves to say you know what I don’t care if we are losing I will be d@mned if I let this rookie come back to town and make fun of us like this. They played soft, they choked as a team. There was not one player on that field that I liked to watch that whole game. There is not one high-light to get excited about except when Cable pulled Russel. Go ahead take a look.
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d813b4404/NFL-GameDay-Jets-vs-Raiders-highlights
I hope you guys have fun watching these clowns, I can’t do it this weekend. I am saving my football viewing time to watch a real NFL team. Every time I try to watch them it is a disappointment. Love the shield! Hate the team from Al Davis to Cable to Russel to the water boy.
October 29th, 2009 at 9:26 am
One can only assume its Al Davis telling Cable “OK, we got away with a victory against the Eagles despite your conservative play calling. We go back the original plan next game. We’ll catch ‘em sleeping. They’ll never know what hit ‘em.”
October 29th, 2009 at 9:30 am
Larz,
It would have been 1/2 the distance to the goal. Ball on 5 1/2 yrd. line. LOL
October 29th, 2009 at 9:30 am
Also, as a defense, you can’t just quit when you’re down by 14 points.
Their only defense is they knew our offense could produce nada.
You see the Saints fold in Miami? Nope. Why?
Brees.
His team has the faith in him to continue to compete. He has the faith in his receivers to let it fly.
October 29th, 2009 at 9:31 am
Hey we called up a bomb against the Bronco’s from the 1/2 yd line when we had just stopped them.
I think the defense is sick of the coach’s self indulgence wasting their effort.
October 29th, 2009 at 9:32 am
Lemme get this straight…the defense tackles like garbage and yet, they STILL don’t go live in practice? Well I guess that just explains it all!
I believe Josh McDaniels has that D in Denver going live and look at their results…go figure huh?
October 29th, 2009 at 9:33 am
CJ
More power to you.
I have tried to shake this team. I have tried to watch other games.
I get itchy. I get uncomfortable. And I feel like I’m rejecting part of myself.
Can’t help it. I love the Raiders.
I’ll be watching, for better or worse.
Usually, I catch the Sunday and Monday night games if I’m looking for a real football contest.
October 29th, 2009 at 9:39 am
RaiderTW Says:
October 29th, 2009 at 9:20 am
That’s easy: Just live in a state where fundamentalist religion dominates!
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Watch out Bo, Dakota will call you a liar.lol
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LMAO.
October 29th, 2009 at 9:42 am
LA to TheBay Says:
October 29th, 2009 at 9:33 am
CJ
More power to you.
I have tried to shake this team. I have tried to watch other games.
I get itchy. I get uncomfortable. And I feel like I’m rejecting part of myself.
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I feel the same way when I don’t have a beer in my hand watching an NFL game. I understand what you are going through. : )
October 29th, 2009 at 9:43 am
Larz,
Mike Huff is going to be traded to another team that plays zone and he is going to be a great role player, watch!
October 29th, 2009 at 9:44 am
I watched poor Mike Huff having to play MLB all forth quarter.
Why would a player want to stick around for that?
JR is just a hillbilly kid with a big arm.
People have won super bowls with QBs like that.
Play calling effects the defense and the offense and the defense does not expect JR to be mistake free, but the head coach is putting them in very bad situations.
Again with the best punter in the world you can have a low 3rd down conv rate,…but feild position and clock management are defense killers and the D has quit on “Cable”
October 29th, 2009 at 9:46 am
132:
Denver’s defense has not changed to any great degree.
Their offense is better suited for them.
Gone is the boom bust big yard offense, insert a game plan that works for all three phases of the game.
Its right out of Billicheks handbook.
One Cable has not read yet.
October 29th, 2009 at 9:59 am
CJ Legend, LA to TheBay, I tried quitting football after the 2003 season but when the Raiders signed Moss I thought, the more I want out, they keep pulling me back in! We all know how that turned out. Now I just watch the Raiders & don’t care about any other team. The main reason for quitting FB altogether is if they can blatantly screw the Raiders almost every game then it’s really just professional wrestling, isn’t it?
October 29th, 2009 at 10:00 am
Can we get someone who can get the ball past the 20 on KR?
Are they afraid of risking injury to DHB or certain he doesn’t have the field vision?
Even if he ran in a straight line, right into coverage, his chances of getting to the 20 are higher than those of Watkins or Hiram Eugene (wow, realy????) on a fair catch.
October 29th, 2009 at 10:05 am
wow. more political crap. big surprise
I expect more from the AM crew
Anyways,
“JaMarcus owes Higgins an apology and a ‘get well soon’ card, some chicken noodle soup and a teddy bear or something.”
Yes. Russell also hangs his WR’s out to dry. Tony Gonzo even said as much last year to Zach Miller. Sad thing is that with even a decent QB at the helm Miller would be the best TE in the AFC – even if he played for KC …
October 29th, 2009 at 10:07 am
RaiderRockstar, don’t you & your party have to go rewrite the bible?
October 29th, 2009 at 10:07 am
JR is just a hillbilly kid with a big arm.
People have won super bowls with QBs like that.
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Larz, nobody is gonna win anything with a QB “like JaWalrus” …
Davis does a terrible job running the team and Cable does a terrible job of coaching it, but that doesn’t excuse Russell either. He’s easily the worst starting QB in the league
October 29th, 2009 at 10:12 am
LA to TheBay Says:
October 29th, 2009 at 9:33 am
CJ
More power to you.
I have tried to shake this team. I have tried to watch other games.
I get itchy. I get uncomfortable. And I feel like I’m rejecting part of myself.
Can’t help it. I love the Raiders.
I’ll be watching, for better or worse.
Usually, I catch the Sunday and Monday night games if I’m looking for a real football contest.
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i’m right there with you.
even during a blowout i cannot change the channel to one of the better games.
October 29th, 2009 at 10:13 am
Reminds me of Kerry Collins hanging Moss out the first couple of games.
81 suddenly grew a pair of aligator arms and was no where to be found.
October 29th, 2009 at 10:17 am
TW,
I live my life based upon what it teaches in the Bible aka the word of God. I would never attempt to rewrite it. Such a suggestion is both absurd and ignorant.
religion changes you. you don’t change it.
i’m done talking about things non-football related. If you don’t respect my decision to follow Christ thats your problem
October 29th, 2009 at 10:17 am
I watch the Raiders in the forth quarter of a preseason blow out.
I love football anyways and you learn more about the players when the games out of reach than you do when everything is rosy.
That’s why I beleive the Defense has quit on Cable.
I was pleased with the play of Dez Bryant, Huff, Alston and Branch.
The veterans quit.
October 29th, 2009 at 10:19 am
RRS,
I’ll respect your viewpoint but my itchy trigger finger is just dying to punch in a diatribe, however I shall resist.
Football it is.
Anybody else think, besides some sloppy play last Sunday, that Tyvon Branch is a football player, not just a track star?
October 29th, 2009 at 10:25 am
Rock star:
I am not a big JR fan, but he is no better or worse than Rick Rypian or Doug Williams.
People ask me what my opinion is on JR…frankly I can’t tell you.
Is he another Peyton Manning nope…no one is.
Has he been handled like Big Ben when he came in as a rookie …nope…Falco…nope.
The difference is we will never know, there is not enough around him to get a read on.
The coach is not bright, no running game and no defense.
O-line sucks, Eli lost one tackle and he looked ordinary.
Judging JR is like judging a swimmer in the desert.
Kids got a great stroke but he’s not going anywhere?..lol
October 29th, 2009 at 10:25 am
Wow, RaiderRockstar, you’re more narrow minded & dogmatic than I originally thought, good luck.
October 29th, 2009 at 10:26 am
Reminds me of Kerry Collins hanging Moss out the first couple of games.
***
I remember everybody HATED Collins in Oakland, but he’s been by far our best QB since Gannon. It surprises me that Al Davis thought Aaron Brooks & Andrew Walter in a Shell/Walsh offense would be an improvement …
Collins stats -
2004: 3495 yards, 21 TD, 20 INT. comp % 56. QB Rating 74.8
2005: 3759 yards, 20 TD, 12 INT. comp % 53. QB Rating 77.3
Can you imagine if Russell put up stats like that? Raider fans everywhere would rise up and call him the next Donovan McNabb or Steve McNair. LOL
October 29th, 2009 at 10:27 am
RaiderTW Says:
October 29th, 2009 at 9:20 am
That’s easy: Just live in a state where fundamentalist religion dominates!
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Watch out Bo, Dakota will call you a liar.lol
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Bo clarified his position back when I caught him in a lie…he wasn’t lying when he tried to substitute abortion rates for teen pregnancy rates…he just misremembered.
Then he called me an a – hole.
That really hurt.
October 29th, 2009 at 10:31 am
RaiderTW,
Why don’t you go watch some more Countdown and learn why all the world’s problems are still being caused by Bush?
October 29th, 2009 at 10:36 am
I’m not a big holy roller.
And I don’t like being told what I should and shouldn’t beleive in.
But buddy if you are following someone, then Christ is a pretty good choice.
But I tune in here for the football too.
And yes Branch has been our most consistant and violent player…best safety we’ve had in years.
October 29th, 2009 at 10:36 am
Judging JR is like judging a swimmer in the desert.
Kids got a great stroke but he’s not going anywhere?..lol
LMAO.
Well said.
Believe me, JR has the tools.
-Cannon arm
-Height
-Cool under pressure
-Athletic despite his size
What he lacks is all the non-physical stuff, IMO
-Leadership
-Attitude
-Maturity
He shows flashes of pocket presense and quick release, so I won’t add that to the list of what he needs, but he does need those to be consistent.
Once he gets the trust of the team back, they will all play harder.
The hole has been dug pretty deep though.
The mentality must be that you’re playing every game like a playoff game.
October 29th, 2009 at 10:40 am
Judging JR is like judging a swimmer in the desert.
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people made excuses for Andrew Walter, Tui & Culpepper at QB. Also for Callahan, Turner & Kiffin.
none of those QB’s are any good. 2 of them can’t even find work. Turner took a good team and made it average. Kiffin is a college coach now. Callahan is an asst coach now after failing as a college coach.
good players rise to the top, no matter what the circumstances or environment. Example: Nnamdi Asomugha, Shane Lechler, Robert Gallery, Zach Miller, Mario Henderson, Thomas Howard
October 29th, 2009 at 10:43 am
For Collins you missed the sacks and fumbles.
He was a 8 year vet who went to the SB when we got him.
Veteran Receivers and a good running game.
O and D line sucked= losing seasons.
Let’s get real and compare JR to Drew Stanton, Trent Edwards, and Brady Quinn…or Derek Anderson.
All QBs of the same vintage playing on lousy ball teams.
Who will come in as a QB and win here?
No one because the QB is 5% of the reason we are losing.
October 29th, 2009 at 10:44 am
From Bo’s study:
“U.S. states whose residents have more conservative religious beliefs on average tend to have higher rates of teenagers giving BIRTH, according to a new study forthcoming in the journal Reproductive Health.”
Well, wouldn’t that be expected since the abortion rates are so much higher in liberal areas of the nation? Yes, more teenagers GIVE BIRTH in the conservative areas, but what percentage actually get pregnant? I would guess that teen PREGNANCIES are about the same nation wide…or very close, but TEEN BIRTHS are skewed because the abortion rate is lower in conservative areas of the nation…is that really something you are proud of TW and Bo?
And even if studies show that teen pregnancies are up in conservative states, so what? I’d rather fall on that side than the abortion side of things…
October 29th, 2009 at 10:48 am
Who will come in as a QB and win here?
No one because the QB is 5% of the reason we are losing.
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I disagree. I think even with Brady Quinn or Trent Edwards at QB we go 8-8 …
Who starts a QB with a completion percentage AND QB Rating under 50? nobody. or maybe Al Davis
at least Russell holds an NFL record for something! LOL
October 29th, 2009 at 10:50 am
I’m not making excuses for JR.
I’m saying you can’t judge him based on the lack of players around him.
Notice the only offensive players you mentioned are a Guard who came in as a tackle, and a “good TE” who everyone said was the safest pick in the draft.
No WR, no RB, no tackles, no centers.
No Clady, no Thomas, no Peterson, no Colston or Marshall.
And definately no Coach.
October 29th, 2009 at 10:53 am
Dakota Says:
… all the world’s problems are still being caused by Bush?—-
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Not the WORLD’S but you’re finally not denying reality, good for you.
October 29th, 2009 at 10:53 am
Dakota,
To think Bush is the only reason for the debacle that was his presidency is absurd. I blame
1) the American voter
1a) fools who vote against their own interests
2) the Supreme Court
3) the captains of industry
Olbermann is a polarizing individual much like a Rush Limbaugh, but the guy is doing what’s right by calling out these idiots and exposing them for the tyrants they are. At least Countdown is grounded in some form of reality, while the other side is spewing nonsense. Their plan of attack is complete and utter diversion.
Fox News could only hope to expose Democrats, but they’re too obsessed with trivial propaganda and nonsense.
Bottom line, if you form opinions and get news from cable news stations/programs, you’re not informed.
Oh, and Go Raiders.
October 29th, 2009 at 11:00 am
RaiderRockstar Says:
October 29th, 2009 at 10:17 am
TW,
I live my life based upon what it teaches in the Bible aka the word of God. I would never attempt to rewrite it. Such a suggestion is both absurd and ignorant.
religion changes you. you don’t change it.
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RRS, then read this and be outraged. I agree with your sentiments above, BTW.
http://www.usnews.com/blogs/god-and-country/2009/10/06/conservapedia-launches-effort-to-translate-the-bible-into-conservativespeak.html
October 29th, 2009 at 11:00 am
Great players rise up?
That’s why Doug Williams has a SB ring and Dan Marino does not.
Brady Quinn would be hospitalized by now playing in this offense.
October 29th, 2009 at 11:02 am
Until we have a QB that changes the plays in the huddle, we will not succeed.
Rookies won’t, and Veterans will go somewhere they don’t have to.
Donvon McNabb doesn’t remember how many timeouts he has, or that time will run out on a tie game.
But JR gets creamed on a dumbass playcall as a result of a RT wiffing completely, and we talk about the formation being wrong, or pocket presence.
Smells funny.
October 29th, 2009 at 11:04 am
Larz,
playing the “we should have drafted this guy” game doesn’t change things. We all play owner/coach on draft day and hope that the players we like get drafted by our favorite team, but guess what? it’s not very likely. and who knows what Clady/Thomas/Peterson/Colston/Marshall would have done in Oakland. They could have been the next Henderson/Gallery/McFadden/Murphy/Heyward-Bey for all we know! different teammates, different coaches, different organization, different fans & surroundings, etc
but blaming Russell’s lack of success on his teammates and coaches isn’t fair or accurate. Thats what 90 percent of Raider Nation did with Andrew Walter too and they were WRONG. he’s not a player
October 29th, 2009 at 11:05 am
RRS, then read this and be outraged. I agree with your sentiments above, BTW.
http://www.usnews.com/blogs/god-and-country/2009/10/06/conservapedia-launches-effort-to-translate-the-bible-into-conservativespeak.html
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Thanks, Bo, I knew that went over his head.
October 29th, 2009 at 11:07 am
I was given a list of “great players” who have risen above the enviroment?
I merely asked where are the offensive players?
Why is it that the list does not include any weapons on offense?
O-line has a downgraded tackle…
October 29th, 2009 at 11:07 am
Hey, I am feeling very liberal today, I watched the movie Milk last night and I felt bad for the poor gays.
Get married, who cares?
I can’t see a marriage between two men being any worse for the world than a marriage between Odom and a Kardashian.
October 29th, 2009 at 11:09 am
Gradkowski & Frye BOTH have a completion percentage & QB Rating over 50, but they sit on the bench. Why?
because Russell and his 2 TD’s vs. 13 turnovers gives us the best chance to win?
come on guys. he’s clearly just another Al Davis scholarship athlete who fails to meet expectations. thats what happens when you draft potential over production. the biggest, strongest & fastest isn’t always the best football player. Al Davis makes this error repeatedly without learning from it and it’s costing him millions
October 29th, 2009 at 11:09 am
Me too RRS
October 29th, 2009 at 11:11 am
back to work. later fellas
carpe diem!
October 29th, 2009 at 11:15 am
Test
October 29th, 2009 at 11:16 am
Its a combination of things that is leading to this mess.
What was the result of the week 1 game? A loss but a defeat for SD in every phase of the game with the exception of the final score.
Why? We were able to convert on 3rd down and we were able to run the ball.
Result of the KC game?
We hung around long enough to get lucky on the last drive despite the ridiculous vertical offense.
The result of the Eagle game?
WHY?
Intermediate, high percentage passing plays and running the ball. This should have been the formula from the start.
Turnrer runs a similar offensive system in SD.
Run the ball. Vertical passing game. Even if LT is aging, they’ve found a way to adapt by using a versatile RB in the pass game. The difference?
Tall WRs that attack the ball. A QB who has been in that system for years. Two productive RBs.
My point is, you know what you have in this team.
Why in the world would you use a system like we’re using? It’s absurd.
It’s Al Davis football.
He wanted it installed and he wanted Russell executing the deep ball. It has been painfully obvious since preseason.
This is why Chaz Svhilens, or a WR like him, would do wonders for this offense.
“But we didn’t do anything with Randy Moss.”
Yeah, but before Randy developed a case of the dropsies, he had a 1000 yard season and Collins had a 3000 season, despite doing so in a losing effort.
October 29th, 2009 at 11:25 am
I hope they start Gradkowski or Frye.
Then people will see how meaningless the QB play is in this offense.
If they even come close to their career stats I will be shocked.
Remember Frye had Winslow, Edwards and Stallworth.
I think the reason they don’t switch is because it will expose the team and coach, JR makes a nice tidy excuse right now.
If he is that bad, then either of these guys would make as big an impact as JR is being blamed.
I seen no difference in the offense when Grads came in,
except he ran for his life forward on a couple of plays.
That would not last.
So make the change and see this team turnaround and be great? what’s the hold up.
Because they’re not that good, and they reflect the rest of the offense.
October 29th, 2009 at 11:46 am
Where’s Vince Evans??????? We need you brother!
October 29th, 2009 at 11:47 am
RR-i believe it’s 14 turnovers,but who’s counting.it really makes no difference,as long as Russell is QB for the Raiders we will continue to be the laughing stock of the league.
October 29th, 2009 at 11:50 am
O’line is not the problem!
Top 3 issuses……..
QB
WR’s
Offensive Playcalling
The defense will fine, if only we could correct these weaknesses.
October 29th, 2009 at 11:52 am
Our offensive woes are completely correctable.
You turn Russell into a PA QB/game manager.
You run the ball 40 times a game.
You allow our speedy WR to make a play after a catch and rack up the YAC.
Simple as that.
The problem is that it conflicts with the style of offense Al Davis prefers and makes it look like we’re hiding his prized #1 picks.
We will continue to force the issue if we want to “develop” our offense and will adjust if we’d like to win games instead.
October 29th, 2009 at 11:59 am
Larz Says:
October 29th, 2009 at 11:25 am
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Remember Frye had Winslow, Edwards and Stallworth
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Frye only started one game for Cleveland…cleveland won…. Frye was traded immeadiately to Seattle to avoid a QB contraversy….Tell the whole story moron.
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Frye was not mobile enough for Seattle’s Offense…thats why he was cut.
October 29th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
The bottom line is we have an owner that puts size and speed before smarts and work ethic in regards to players. Then he doesn’t allow his coaches to coach, select staff, and have their own philosphy. So we can’t get good coaching. So now we have big, fast stupid players being coached by big fat stupid coaches. It will not change until Al changes and we know he’s not changing. I wonder how long it will take Jaequator to burn through his millions? Cuz when homeboy is done in Oakland, he’ll be done in the NFL. We’ll see who’s “eating good” then.
October 29th, 2009 at 12:24 pm
LA To TheBay….I think thats what they are trying to do with our offense. The problem is our QB can’t execute for siht, and other teams stack the box, and thus we are the most impressive 3&out machine the world has seen.
October 29th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
I think Al is gonna keep the ace under his sleeve until complete mutiny comes to the locker room, then he is gonna call Vince Evans The Ageless Wonder out of some retirement home, give him his #11 jersey, and let him loose at the league…it’ll be a thing of beauty!
October 29th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
Oh shut up with this its correctable Bullshyt! Russell sucks ans is garbage and will never even be a decent QB. Stop dreaming with your optimistic bull LAtoBay
October 29th, 2009 at 12:33 pm
Brien = Bill Cosby. Guaranteed. Can’t believe it took me this long.
October 29th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
Seymour said the practices weren’t live practices where they tackle and hit??
WTF?? No wonder why they can’t tackle consistently….
Doesn’t matter…the offense sucks….so that is the main problem.
October 29th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
Dakota, Harvey Milk being gay was never a problem with you. It’s because he tried to criminalize sex with farm animals. Damn San Fran liberals prying into your personal business. It’s nobody’s business what you and Charlotte do in the barn, right?
October 29th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
# lefty12 Says:
October 29th, 2009 at 11:47 am
RR-i believe it’s 14 turnovers,but who’s counting.it really makes no difference,as long as Russell is QB for the Raiders we will continue to be the laughing stock of the league.
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True and not true Leftster………as long as Al Davis calls all the shots we will continue to the laughing stock of the sports world
October 29th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
On the field Russell is the main problem. Last week when he turned the ball over the bench had a look on its face like “Not this bullshhht again”. When he threw that INT to Leonard, the bench had the look on their face like ” Oh well, get ready for the big party tonight off 12th street in Frisco”.
October 29th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
Brien is Bill Cosby, the real Bill Cosby, himself. Just read his comments. Who else could it be?
October 29th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
The Raiders just suck…but we can’t suck FOREVER! Right?
Right?
Come on, someone give me some assurances that we can’t suck FOREVER!
October 29th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
# QCRAIDER Says:
October 29th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
The bottom line is we have an owner that puts size and speed before smarts and work ethic in regards to players. Then he doesn’t allow his coaches to coach, select staff, and have their own philosphy. So we can’t get good coaching. So now we have big, fast stupid players being coached by big fat stupid coaches. It will not change until Al changes and we know he’s not changing. I wonder how long it will take Jaequator to burn through his millions? Cuz when homeboy is done in Oakland, he’ll be done in the NFL. We’ll see who’s “eating good” then.
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Please you know nothing……….he is from the south! Whether poor or rich he will always eat good
October 29th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
QCRAIDER Says:
October 29th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
The bottom line is we have an owner that puts size and speed before smarts and work ethic in regards to players. Then he doesn’t allow his coaches to coach, select staff, and have their own philosphy. So we can’t get good coaching. So now we have big, fast stupid players being coached by big fat stupid coaches.
^^^^^^Exactly! How about the old man draft guys that are big, fast, AND have a hard work ethic, play with heart and are smart??
The old man has lost it….only he is to blame for this mess!
October 29th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 29th, 2009 at 12:33 pm
Brien = Bill Cosby. Guaranteed. Can’t believe it took me this long.
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Well Theooooooooooo, ya see pudding pops makes your day go alot better. It use to make my son Enis’ day go great until he messed with the wrong hoooker. aaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
October 29th, 2009 at 12:47 pm
Chaz Schilens is a player I like but he wont make a difference. Russell sucks people. Stop making excuses. A QB can’t play below average and expect the team to be even average.
See his comments and how he thinks he isnt the problem. Guy is a loser and if you keep defending him you too are a loser
October 29th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
Brien, whether or not Russell is garbage, it does not change my point.
Actually, if he’s garbage, then my point rings that much more true.
Optomistic?
Optomistic would be a winning season, or a season in which we compete.
I offered a solution to the problem.
Optomistic?
What I said to do is what we did with Russell last year and what we did with him in the Eagles game.
I’m not saying that’s what’s going to happen, I’m saying do that and the offense produces. Or at least produces more.
It’s actually a pretty cut and dry assessment even a 12 year old would come up with an virtually every other poster on here.
October 29th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
Did you also read the part where I said why we don’t do that?
Sherm?
Please.
October 29th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
# LA to TheBay Says:
October 29th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
Brien, whether or not Russell is garbage, it does not change my point.
Actually, if he’s garbage, then my point rings that much more true.
Optomistic?
Optomistic would be a winning season, or a season in which we compete.
I offered a solution to the problem.
Optomistic?
What I said to do is what we did with Russell last year and what we did with him in the Eagles game.
I’m not saying that’s what’s going to happen, I’m saying do that and the offense produces. Or at least produces more.
It’s actually a pretty cut and dry assessment even a 12 year old would come up with an virtually every other poster on here.
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Bullshyt. You are here making excuses. The solution for Russell is death. Fugg that guy! Please do what we did against philly week in and week out will result in losses. You idiot he has 2 ints!!. Philly played their worse game of the year and we had 13 points only. Putthe sherm and henny down man.
October 29th, 2009 at 12:55 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 29th, 2009 at 12:47 pm
Bill, got a special silver and black Cosby sweater?
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Actually I do it barely goes over my belt awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
October 29th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
*********Crabtree VS. DHB not apples to oranges & it has nothing to do with Chaz*******
Man!!! We have been talking about these two since the draft so I want to get some things straight between the game of these two players. I was outraged when we took DHB over Crabtree in the draft. I was listening to the draft, on the radio, working in my garage and when we took DHb with Crabs still on the board, I was cursing so loud my wife came out and yelled at me. She said the neighbors can hear you down the street. At the time I really did not give a $#!t but since she was making one heck of a gumbo that day I calmed myself down. After that I got to thinking about the two WRs game. With Crabtree he had great hands, great moves and most of his big plays came off of short underneath routes from WR screens that he would advance, 5-10 yard outs, ability to break tackles. I was thinking to myself this guy would be better suited for a west coast offense type of system. Plus, as you all know we had Chaz that seemed like he was ready to break out. So I said to myself Crabtree would have been able to help us in the short term but with him what you see is what you get. Now after the draft we all found out Crab’s was an arrogant @$$ so it really did not matter to me, I was glad we did not take the guy. Plus I think he made it clear he did not want to be a Raider (I wonder why?).
Now this leads to DHB. When he was in college he had the big frame, the speed, but he was very raw in terms of running crisp routes and making disciplined Jerry Rice/Chris Carter league catches. Also he needed one more year of college experience to me, but at a top 10 pick, I would have left school. Crabtree looked more fundamentally sound when it came to making safe catches to keep the chains moving (Gannon would have loved the kid, the arrogant SOB), but when you look at DHB’s game he seemed to have the most possible upside. Not just because of the speed and big frame but what he was able to accomplish. His QB unlike Russell had no zip on the ball. He had to jump up and catch floaters (that is not Russels game now he is catching high bullets). His college coach had to find ways to get him the ball such as jump balls in the corner of the end zone, WR reverses, 3-5 yard quick passes, half back passes to him running posts and drags. He can make some nice catches when he wants to make them he is just not consistent (you know like TO), but you know you have to account for the guy because when he gets that size and speed going down hill, good luck! DHB has the potential to be a game breaker. Crabtree has the potential as a possession WR to keep the chains moving.
Now lets look at how SF used Crabtree his first game. 1st play of scrimmage the inside WR runs a clear out for him to make an easy 3 yard catch (just to break him in and get the 1st catch in the NFL out the way). They do about (2) 5-10 yard outs with him and in the game with his confidence up he makes (2)10-15 yard catches in traffic. What a basic way to work a rookie into his first game.
Now lets look at how the Raiders handle DHB. The first game we have him streaking down the field as a decoy running deep route after deep route and blocking for running plays. Now DHB made a name for himself running reverses at Maryland (so did the great Tim Brown at ND. We waited until the TX game to let him run 1 WR reverse that he got about 5 yards on. How many times have we threw DHB a quick 3-5 yard pass to let him use his natural ability to make a play? I don’t know. We have two running backs that played QBs in HS and through nice halfback passes in college in DMAC and Bush. How many half back passes to Bush have you seen so far? “0″. Delaware killed teams with that half back pass to DHB. They would commit to stopping the run and DHB with that speed would blow right by and make them pay for it (you know we did not try that one time). How many WR screens have we used with DHB? None! I know some of you are saying they don’t work in the pros. Well SF did it for Crabtree and worked just fine. Right now everyone knows are game is vertical and the power run and where do the Raiders send their rookie Ferrari vertical right where the veteran DBs know he is going. Cable will most likely say DHB is clearing out for Zach Miller but you know what? Russell is not finding him at all.
I understand players have to execute but every good coach, parent, manager or leader knows you have to play to peoples strengths first. You build on their strengths once they get comfortable then you throw something new at them. We run such a basic and predictable offense it could make even a WR like Randy Moss look bad (oops! That already happened he helped himself).
October 29th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
Dakota, is it true what they say about horses? You were walking funny the last time you showed up to a Raider game…
October 29th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
Solution for Russell= cut
Solution for Raiders= Al humble himself and hire Bill Cowher to be GM and Coach
October 29th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
THE PRESEASON CONTINUES
Have you figured it out yet? The Raiders are in an extended preseason for next year. They are auditioning JR, DHB, Morris, Pears, Barnes, Satele, DMAC, Murphy and so on to see who can play.
THEY AREN’T PLAYING TO WIN!
When Cable was coaching to win, they ran, ran, ran. JR was asked to do very little. They won two in a row to end the year.
The preseason became the pass-happy JR test. It hasn’t stopped. Fargas was gashing the Jets but get to Jets territory and it is JaWalrus throwing another post pattern over the wrong shoulder for an INT. Even with BG at QB, 1st and goal – 3 passes, 1 run – no TD.
Al said when he hired Cable he knew it was going to take more than one year. 2009 is an extended preseason.
Problem is – JR is terrible and since Al went overhead projector on Kiffin, benching JR proves Kiffin right. Al would rather lose. People bash JR’s cast but JR is so inaccurate it is hard to evaluate the WRs. DHB dropped a TD from BG. No doubt. Why no doubt? Because the pass was dead on.
new Head Coach? Won’t matter. This is the Al Davis “let the young guys play” game plan.
If you’re playing to win you bench JR and DHB. BG or Frye would move the ball better. Fargas (mysteriously) is for some reason the guy who moves the chains best at RB. Playing to win, these guys are in.
“Just Get Ready For 2010 Baby’
October 29th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
No LAtoBay, I just read the ignorant part where you said the offense is correctable
October 29th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
Grad stinks, Russell is worse and Frye is a journey at best but still our best QB. Only reason to start Russell is so people at the games can get a good laugh
October 29th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
Honestly, all we need is a team leader, OL, poised QB, run stuffing LB, experienced WR, and a GM. I mean, that’s 100% of our problem right there.
October 29th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 29th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
Alright, Bill, I’m out of here. Have a coke and a smile and shut the fug up. Dakota, stay away from those barn animals. Use your hand, or your fat wife. Well, probably the hand. I don’t blame you. Later, buddy.
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Nice Eddie Murphy reference from Raw……awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww. Too bad you cant come up with something of your own. It funny you quote a known fa99ot like Eddie Murphy. I guess you like to get caught with Trannys too huh? Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
October 29th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
COW…………that is the worse plan ever going into the uncapped year. Franchise is doomed
October 29th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
# ohioraider Says:
October 29th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
Honestly, all we need is a team leader, OL, poised QB, run stuffing LB, experienced WR, and a GM. I mean, that’s 100% of our problem right there.
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Yeah you must be waiting on so called Jesus to come back then………..Keep waiting
October 29th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
Brien – yes it is. It is a plan of ignorance also because you can’t get rid of a “losing culture” when you don’t play to win.
October 29th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
Hey Russell said he isnt the problem………..the he stuffed a fried pork sandwich in his mouth, that fat phuck! Such a loser and dumb southern hick hillbillty idiot. Only a fool defends him. Only a fool says he isnt the worse QB ever. Only a fool thinks the offense can be corrected with him under center
October 29th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 29th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
Dakota, is it true what they say about horses? You were walking funny the last time you showed up to a Raider game…
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Sounds like you have an obsession about animals. I think you should block the Animal Planet Channel and seek help immediately. Your zoo pass has been terminated already…thanks to PETA. Get help before you hurt more animals.
October 29th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
COW and I totally disagree with you on Farglass. Guy sucks as well. He wouldnt start for any other team inthe league but Oakland. It is pitiful. He got some good runs last week no doubt but to really think this guy will do much throughout the season is crazy. Whether you like dmac/bush or not Farglass starting means we are into popularity contests and not wins. You hit me back when he makes a big play and finds the endzone. You guys love this loser so much
October 29th, 2009 at 1:16 pm
CJ, I know you understand Crab didnt fit what Al wanted to do. I agree with Al for passing him up. I dont agree with selecting DHB. Rey Maualuga should have been the pick
October 29th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
I hope they start Farglass this week and I hope he gets 25 carries you will see what I mean that the guy aint a starter. Throughout the course of the game he isnt a factor at all!
Sunday wont be a blowout until the 2nd half but Farglass will have 25 carries for 80 yards and no TDs. But hey he runs hard and he can black so hey something is better than nothing right?
October 29th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
# Dakota Says:
October 29th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
Brien,
Given his obsession about animals, he probably favors sheepskin condoms, lol.
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Yeah slim fit sheepskin condoms that he uses on himself
October 29th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
Wow!
Doesn’t the bell EVER ring to let out the 3rd graders in here?? How do grown adults get so much enjoyment out of acting like little kids?? Don’t you guys ever get embarrassed by all of this, or at the least bored with it??
All of this immaturity for a football team?? Really?? The barrel really goes that far down?? I just don’t get it. Whatever, charade on.
Go Raiders!!
October 29th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
Brien -
Fargas is one of many Raiders who wouldn’t start elsewhere. The reality is the offense gets more first downs when he is in.
The whole break a big run for a TD is nothing. DRIVES win games. JR’s 14 yard pass turned 86 yard TD doesn’t make him a better QB than the 20 guys with no TD passes over 50 yards.
DMAC is an injury-prone guy with no game speed or ability to break tackles.
Bush looks the most talented and should have the starting gig locked up but he doesn’t get it done for some reason.
October 30th, 2009 at 6:52 am
The reason the three running backs are not doing well is because the run blocking sucks!
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Coach on Wheels Says:
October 29th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
Brien -
Fargas is one of many Raiders who wouldn’t start elsewhere. The reality is the offense gets more first downs when he is in.
The whole break a big run for a TD is nothing. DRIVES win games. JR’s 14 yard pass turned 86 yard TD doesn’t make him a better QB than the 20 guys with no TD passes over 50 yards.
DMAC is an injury-prone guy with no game speed or ability to break tackles.
Bush looks the most talented and should have the starting gig locked up but he doesn’t get it done for some reason.