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Cable hopes to prod a better effort

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, October 28th, 2009 at 3:56 pm in Oakland Raiders.

News, notes and quotes from Wednesday’s open locker room and post-practice press briefing from coach Tom Cable:

– The only two players players coming off long-term injuries that have a chance to play against San Diego, according to Cable, are left guard Robert Gallery (broken fibula) and wide receiver Chaz Schilens (foot).

Gallery practiced in warmups and drills and got in a few reps. Schilens is still “real sore” and didn’t practice at all. It’s conceivable both could be back after the bye.

– Running back Darren McFadden has been a ghost since his minor knee surgery. He hasn’t been seen in the locker room during media availaibility since being injured nor has he been on the field during initial rehab stages during practice with the athletic training staff.

McFadden will be inactive for his fourth game, and it’s no slam dunk he’ll be back after the bye following the Chargers game.

– The Chargers have morphed into a passing team in part because of injuries on the offensive line as well as the health of LaDainian Tomlinson. With scatback Darren Sproles more suited to getting into pass patterns, joining wide receiver Vincent Jackson and tight end Antonio Gates as targets, San Diego plays a different style than the run-heavy teams primarily responisble for 12 consecutive wins over Oakland.

With the Raiders playing better against pass-first teams, San Diego could play into their hands much the same way Philadelphia did.

Coach Norv Turner stressed he wasn’t willing to abandon the run and believes the Chargers must get better at it if they hope to reach the postseason.

“We do have a talented group of receivers and we have a quarterback who is playing at a real high level, so certainly we want to be able to throw the football,” Turner told Bay Area reporters by conference call. “But to be the kind of team we want to be and continue to grow, we need to be able to run the football.”

– With the Raiders ranked 30th in run defense, Cable isn’t about to assume the Chargers will come out throwing, regardless of their more wide-open style.

“Based on what we’ve been through a couple of times now in terms of run defense, we’d be fools not to think they would try to run it,” Cable said.

– Some nighmarish rushing defense numbers _ the the Raiders have given up 200 or more yards rushing in three games (214 to Denver, 220 to the New York Giants, 316 to the New York Jets) and has lost those games by a combined score of 105-3.

The Raiders have given up 11 rushing touchdowns, tied for St. Louis for the most in the NFL, and have given up 133 touchdowns in 103 games (winning 26 of them) since the start of the 2003 season, the most in the NFL.

– Defensive end Richard Seymour was at a loss as to why the Raiders were struggling with a skill as fundamental as tackling.

“It is such a basic thing and obviously we need to do a better,” Seymour said. “We need to do a better job in practice. Maybe we make practice live, I don’t know.”

Cable was asked if he would consider live-tackling and said, “If it gets to that point, absolutely.”

After giving up 316 yards on the ground, you wonder what “that point” would be.

– Cable went to his farm roots for an analogy about playing with the kind of electricty the Raiders showed in Week 1 and again later against Philadelphia.

“You look at the first San Diego game all the way up to the last 2 1/2 minutes,” Cable said. “You look at the last drive on both offense and defense at Kansas City, you look at really the entire game in Philadelphia, and if you set that film aside and look at it, there’s a much different . . . electricity . . . If you look at the other four games you see a different team. As I told them, ‘it doesn’t look like you have a cattle prod up your rear.’ ”

The answer?

“To me, that’s making sure that we’re doing it right,” Cable said. “Eating, sleeping right, taking care of our bodies, doing all those things. We’ve had good effort on Sundays. But there’s a difference in having good effort and playing with the electricity you talked about.”

An inference that perhaps a few players have been staying out a little late and eating a little too much, perhaps?

– Turner on Russell: “Well, for young guys, the expectation is always there that everyone wants you to go out and play completely mistake-free, and that’s not going to happen. That’s how you grow. You go out and play and you have those experiences, and you learn from them. That’s part of, unfortunately, being a young quarterback.”

Turner is paying little attention to the 38-0 pasting the Raiders took against the Jets, instead focusing on the win over Philadelphia the previous week and a 24-20 season-opening win over Oakland, with Rivers finding Sproles for a 5-yard scoring pass with 18 seconds remaining.

“The Jets started two of those drives in that first quarter on the 3- and 4-yard line. It’s tough when you get down by 14 right off the bat,” Turner said. “I watched the Philadelphia game very closely in all three phases. The Raiders in that game were as physical a football game as you’re going to play in this league.”

– Khalif Barnes said he usually gives a loss 24 hours of “mourning” before he moves on, but that the Jets’ loss lasted a little longer. He has since put it aside and is focusing on outside linebacker Shaun Phillips, who got his first two sacks of the season last week against Kansas City and has 9.5 against the Raiders for his career.

“I know Shaun a little bit from playing against him at Purdue a couple of times,”’ Barnes said. “ To me, he’s just as dangerous as Merriman. He’s fast, he’s elusive, he’ll sneak on the edge, sometimes try and lull you to sleep and then he’ll hit you, he’s good with his hands.”

– Chargers wide receiver Vincent Jackson delivered a triple crown of cliches in his conference call with an “it is what it is,” a “one game at a time” and a “we can only control what we can control” in a matter of a few sentences.

– Isaiah Ekejiuba missed practice with a stomach ailment, and was joined by quarterback Bruce Gradkowski. Others who have missed time for the same thing include tight end Brandon Myers and defensive end Richard Seymour.

Cable said all players have been examined to make sure they don’t have the swine flu virus and that no coaches have been affected.

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  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    Dakota, is it true what they say about horses? You were walking funny the last time you showed up to a Raider game…

  • Brien the Grand Guru

    Solution for Russell= cut

    Solution for Raiders= Al humble himself and hire Bill Cowher to be GM and Coach

  • Coach on Wheels

    THE PRESEASON CONTINUES

    Have you figured it out yet? The Raiders are in an extended preseason for next year. They are auditioning JR, DHB, Morris, Pears, Barnes, Satele, DMAC, Murphy and so on to see who can play.

    THEY AREN’T PLAYING TO WIN!

    When Cable was coaching to win, they ran, ran, ran. JR was asked to do very little. They won two in a row to end the year.

    The preseason became the pass-happy JR test. It hasn’t stopped. Fargas was gashing the Jets but get to Jets territory and it is JaWalrus throwing another post pattern over the wrong shoulder for an INT. Even with BG at QB, 1st and goal – 3 passes, 1 run – no TD.

    Al said when he hired Cable he knew it was going to take more than one year. 2009 is an extended preseason.

    Problem is – JR is terrible and since Al went overhead projector on Kiffin, benching JR proves Kiffin right. Al would rather lose. People bash JR’s cast but JR is so inaccurate it is hard to evaluate the WRs. DHB dropped a TD from BG. No doubt. Why no doubt? Because the pass was dead on.

    new Head Coach? Won’t matter. This is the Al Davis “let the young guys play” game plan.

    If you’re playing to win you bench JR and DHB. BG or Frye would move the ball better. Fargas (mysteriously) is for some reason the guy who moves the chains best at RB. Playing to win, these guys are in.

    “Just Get Ready For 2010 Baby’

  • Brien the Grand Guru

    No LAtoBay, I just read the ignorant part where you said the offense is correctable

  • Brien the Grand Guru

    Grad stinks, Russell is worse and Frye is a journey at best but still our best QB. Only reason to start Russell is so people at the games can get a good laugh

  • ohioraider

    Honestly, all we need is a team leader, OL, poised QB, run stuffing LB, experienced WR, and a GM. I mean, that’s 100% of our problem right there.

  • Brien the Grand Guru

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    October 29th, 2009 at 12:59 pm

    Alright, Bill, I’m out of here. Have a coke and a smile and shut the fug up. Dakota, stay away from those barn animals. Use your hand, or your fat wife. Well, probably the hand. I don’t blame you. Later, buddy.
    **************************

    Nice Eddie Murphy reference from Raw……awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww. Too bad you cant come up with something of your own. It funny you quote a known fa99ot like Eddie Murphy. I guess you like to get caught with Trannys too huh? Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

  • Brien the Grand Guru

    COW…………that is the worse plan ever going into the uncapped year. Franchise is doomed

  • Brien the Grand Guru

    # ohioraider Says:
    October 29th, 2009 at 1:02 pm

    Honestly, all we need is a team leader, OL, poised QB, run stuffing LB, experienced WR, and a GM. I mean, that’s 100% of our problem right there.
    *******************************

    Yeah you must be waiting on so called Jesus to come back then………..Keep waiting

  • Coach on Wheels

    Brien – yes it is. It is a plan of ignorance also because you can’t get rid of a “losing culture” when you don’t play to win.

  • Brien the Grand Guru

    Hey Russell said he isnt the problem………..the he stuffed a fried pork sandwich in his mouth, that fat phuck! Such a loser and dumb southern hick hillbillty idiot. Only a fool defends him. Only a fool says he isnt the worse QB ever. Only a fool thinks the offense can be corrected with him under center

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    October 29th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
    Dakota, is it true what they say about horses? You were walking funny the last time you showed up to a Raider game…
    ____________________

    Sounds like you have an obsession about animals. I think you should block the Animal Planet Channel and seek help immediately. Your zoo pass has been terminated already…thanks to PETA. Get help before you hurt more animals.

  • Brien the Grand Guru

    COW and I totally disagree with you on Farglass. Guy sucks as well. He wouldnt start for any other team inthe league but Oakland. It is pitiful. He got some good runs last week no doubt but to really think this guy will do much throughout the season is crazy. Whether you like dmac/bush or not Farglass starting means we are into popularity contests and not wins. You hit me back when he makes a big play and finds the endzone. You guys love this loser so much

  • Brien the Grand Guru

    CJ, I know you understand Crab didnt fit what Al wanted to do. I agree with Al for passing him up. I dont agree with selecting DHB. Rey Maualuga should have been the pick

  • Brien the Grand Guru

    I hope they start Farglass this week and I hope he gets 25 carries you will see what I mean that the guy aint a starter. Throughout the course of the game he isnt a factor at all!

    Sunday wont be a blowout until the 2nd half but Farglass will have 25 carries for 80 yards and no TDs. But hey he runs hard and he can black so hey something is better than nothing right?

  • Brien the Grand Guru

    # Dakota Says:
    October 29th, 2009 at 1:17 pm

    Brien,

    Given his obsession about animals, he probably favors sheepskin condoms, lol.
    ********************************

    Yeah slim fit sheepskin condoms that he uses on himself

  • SaintKaufman

    Wow!
    Doesn’t the bell EVER ring to let out the 3rd graders in here?? How do grown adults get so much enjoyment out of acting like little kids?? Don’t you guys ever get embarrassed by all of this, or at the least bored with it??
    All of this immaturity for a football team?? Really?? The barrel really goes that far down?? I just don’t get it. Whatever, charade on.

    Go Raiders!!

  • Coach on Wheels

    Brien -

    Fargas is one of many Raiders who wouldn’t start elsewhere. The reality is the offense gets more first downs when he is in.

    The whole break a big run for a TD is nothing. DRIVES win games. JR’s 14 yard pass turned 86 yard TD doesn’t make him a better QB than the 20 guys with no TD passes over 50 yards.

    DMAC is an injury-prone guy with no game speed or ability to break tackles.

    Bush looks the most talented and should have the starting gig locked up but he doesn’t get it done for some reason.

  • CJ Legend 34

    The reason the three running backs are not doing well is because the run blocking sucks!

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    Coach on Wheels Says:
    October 29th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
    Brien -

    Fargas is one of many Raiders who wouldn’t start elsewhere. The reality is the offense gets more first downs when he is in.

    The whole break a big run for a TD is nothing. DRIVES win games. JR’s 14 yard pass turned 86 yard TD doesn’t make him a better QB than the 20 guys with no TD passes over 50 yards.

    DMAC is an injury-prone guy with no game speed or ability to break tackles.

    Bush looks the most talented and should have the starting gig locked up but he doesn’t get it done for some reason.