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Cable hopes to prod a better effort

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, October 28th, 2009 at 3:56 pm in Oakland Raiders.

News, notes and quotes from Wednesday’s open locker room and post-practice press briefing from coach Tom Cable:

– The only two players players coming off long-term injuries that have a chance to play against San Diego, according to Cable, are left guard Robert Gallery (broken fibula) and wide receiver Chaz Schilens (foot).

Gallery practiced in warmups and drills and got in a few reps. Schilens is still “real sore” and didn’t practice at all. It’s conceivable both could be back after the bye.

– Running back Darren McFadden has been a ghost since his minor knee surgery. He hasn’t been seen in the locker room during media availaibility since being injured nor has he been on the field during initial rehab stages during practice with the athletic training staff.

McFadden will be inactive for his fourth game, and it’s no slam dunk he’ll be back after the bye following the Chargers game.

– The Chargers have morphed into a passing team in part because of injuries on the offensive line as well as the health of LaDainian Tomlinson. With scatback Darren Sproles more suited to getting into pass patterns, joining wide receiver Vincent Jackson and tight end Antonio Gates as targets, San Diego plays a different style than the run-heavy teams primarily responisble for 12 consecutive wins over Oakland.

With the Raiders playing better against pass-first teams, San Diego could play into their hands much the same way Philadelphia did.

Coach Norv Turner stressed he wasn’t willing to abandon the run and believes the Chargers must get better at it if they hope to reach the postseason.

“We do have a talented group of receivers and we have a quarterback who is playing at a real high level, so certainly we want to be able to throw the football,” Turner told Bay Area reporters by conference call. “But to be the kind of team we want to be and continue to grow, we need to be able to run the football.”

– With the Raiders ranked 30th in run defense, Cable isn’t about to assume the Chargers will come out throwing, regardless of their more wide-open style.

“Based on what we’ve been through a couple of times now in terms of run defense, we’d be fools not to think they would try to run it,” Cable said.

– Some nighmarish rushing defense numbers _ the the Raiders have given up 200 or more yards rushing in three games (214 to Denver, 220 to the New York Giants, 316 to the New York Jets) and has lost those games by a combined score of 105-3.

The Raiders have given up 11 rushing touchdowns, tied for St. Louis for the most in the NFL, and have given up 133 touchdowns in 103 games (winning 26 of them) since the start of the 2003 season, the most in the NFL.

– Defensive end Richard Seymour was at a loss as to why the Raiders were struggling with a skill as fundamental as tackling.

“It is such a basic thing and obviously we need to do a better,” Seymour said. “We need to do a better job in practice. Maybe we make practice live, I don’t know.”

Cable was asked if he would consider live-tackling and said, “If it gets to that point, absolutely.”

After giving up 316 yards on the ground, you wonder what “that point” would be.

– Cable went to his farm roots for an analogy about playing with the kind of electricty the Raiders showed in Week 1 and again later against Philadelphia.

“You look at the first San Diego game all the way up to the last 2 1/2 minutes,” Cable said. “You look at the last drive on both offense and defense at Kansas City, you look at really the entire game in Philadelphia, and if you set that film aside and look at it, there’s a much different . . . electricity . . . If you look at the other four games you see a different team. As I told them, ‘it doesn’t look like you have a cattle prod up your rear.’ ”

The answer?

“To me, that’s making sure that we’re doing it right,” Cable said. “Eating, sleeping right, taking care of our bodies, doing all those things. We’ve had good effort on Sundays. But there’s a difference in having good effort and playing with the electricity you talked about.”

An inference that perhaps a few players have been staying out a little late and eating a little too much, perhaps?

– Turner on Russell: “Well, for young guys, the expectation is always there that everyone wants you to go out and play completely mistake-free, and that’s not going to happen. That’s how you grow. You go out and play and you have those experiences, and you learn from them. That’s part of, unfortunately, being a young quarterback.”

Turner is paying little attention to the 38-0 pasting the Raiders took against the Jets, instead focusing on the win over Philadelphia the previous week and a 24-20 season-opening win over Oakland, with Rivers finding Sproles for a 5-yard scoring pass with 18 seconds remaining.

“The Jets started two of those drives in that first quarter on the 3- and 4-yard line. It’s tough when you get down by 14 right off the bat,” Turner said. “I watched the Philadelphia game very closely in all three phases. The Raiders in that game were as physical a football game as you’re going to play in this league.”

– Khalif Barnes said he usually gives a loss 24 hours of “mourning” before he moves on, but that the Jets’ loss lasted a little longer. He has since put it aside and is focusing on outside linebacker Shaun Phillips, who got his first two sacks of the season last week against Kansas City and has 9.5 against the Raiders for his career.

“I know Shaun a little bit from playing against him at Purdue a couple of times,”’ Barnes said. “ To me, he’s just as dangerous as Merriman. He’s fast, he’s elusive, he’ll sneak on the edge, sometimes try and lull you to sleep and then he’ll hit you, he’s good with his hands.”

– Chargers wide receiver Vincent Jackson delivered a triple crown of cliches in his conference call with an “it is what it is,” a “one game at a time” and a “we can only control what we can control” in a matter of a few sentences.

– Isaiah Ekejiuba missed practice with a stomach ailment, and was joined by quarterback Bruce Gradkowski. Others who have missed time for the same thing include tight end Brandon Myers and defensive end Richard Seymour.

Cable said all players have been examined to make sure they don’t have the swine flu virus and that no coaches have been affected.

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  • LA to TheBay

    Now, back to the game.

    The Raiders can beat the Chargers by duplicating the physicality they displayed in week 1 and the scheme they used in week 6.

    The key will be to get started early, and limit the number of points left on the field, and ELIMINATE careless turnovers.

  • http://www.actionext.com/playlist_57486.html La Milicia Negra

    Gallery is back, lets hope that means we actually can run the ball again…

  • http://www.blogcdn.com/www.fanhouse.com/media/2008/04/desmond-howard-425-sm.jpg Bo Schembechler Jackson

    Nice treatise LA. Gop Raiders.

  • http://www.blogcdn.com/www.fanhouse.com/media/2008/04/desmond-howard-425-sm.jpg Bo Schembechler Jackson

    ^Go

    LOL

  • M Lonetree

    LAto Bay,

    the agent of change, the change you can believe in man wasn’t talking about altering things, he was talking about the many people standing on the street corner hat in hand asking, “Can you spare a brother a dime?”

    While the usual suspects sit in their ivory towers and wallow in their next conquest.

    The Games People Play.

    oh yeah, Go Raiders.

  • LA to TheBay

    Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:
    October 29th, 2009 at 8:17 am
    Nice treatise LA. Gop Raiders.

    That’s a Freudian slip, if I ever saw one, lol.

    Announced: The Raiders want victory….with honor.

  • LA to TheBay

    Well said, M, as usual.

  • LA to TheBay

    The American people are easily excitable, and have very short memories.

    You can only excite them with so much by dangling carrots and superficial upgrades (the same could be said of the Raiders).

    The bottom line is, the more things change, the more they stay the same.

    Ike had it right. We had to guard against the military/industrial complex.

    The industrial and technological revolutions can’t elevate a society when technology is used to destroy and industry is used to suppress.

    Even when technology upgrades something like healthcare, those in dire need with no means have no access. ERs and free clinics are filled with those that can confirm this.

    Even when industry upgrades something like production, those in dire need of a job are left with no access, as those positions are moved overseas.

    Meanwhile, we’re entertained and successfully distracted.

  • DMAC

    DMAC MIA????

  • M Lonetree

    If the Raiders throw no forward passes on offense and blitz every single snap on defense this upcoming Sunday I would bet that they would end up closer in the final score than against Gang Green.
    Freedom’s just another word for nothin’ left to lose…

  • LA to TheBay

    DMAC Says:
    October 29th, 2009 at 8:53 am
    DMAC MIA????

    Oh you didn’t hear? If I can find it, I’ll repost exactly what happened.

  • M Lonetree

    LA to Bay,

    if you haven’t seen it

    http://www.thestoryofstuff.com/

  • http://FunnyAsACrutch TVs Anson Williams

    LA to TheBay: You can WRITE. I’m not saying I necessarily agree with everything you say, mind you, but, damn, you can really string the words together.

  • LA to TheBay

    Freedom’s just another word for nothin’ left to lose…

    So go for broke.

    But, play to your strengths if you’re gonna throw the kitchen sink at someone.

    Why air it out when your WRs can’t catch and your QB can’t throw accurately?

    High percentage, Tommy Boy.

  • LA to TheBay

    TVs Anson Williams Says:
    October 29th, 2009 at 8:57 am
    LA to TheBay: You can WRITE. I’m not saying I necessarily agree with everything you say, mind you, but, damn, you can really string the words together.

    Thank you sir, however I am no M.

    That cat can write.

  • LA to TheBay

    Raider-405 Says:

    Seriously, we STILL DONT KNOW what knee McFadden had surgury on. He wasnt injured in the field of play, we all know that.
    WTF is up there….
    =====================================================
    After a disappointing loss to the Houston Texans, a game in which he had ran for negative yardage, Raiders 1st round pick, running back Darren McFadden, was strolling to the bus to join his teammates when he received a phone call.

    McFadden: Hello?

    Caller (female voice): Darren!

    McFadden: Yeah, who this?

    Caller: Don’t act like you can play me, muthaphukka, and don’t gimme that ‘who this,’ you KNOW who this is.

    McFadden: Sheila?

    Caller: Try again, foo.

    McFadden: Lisa.

    Caller: Have you seriously been phukkin that many h03s?

    McFadden: Well, um…

    Caller: Dammit, don’t you remember Atlanta?

    McFadden: Nah, I was pretty crunked. Teri? Nah, nah, that was KC. Tracy? Susie? Phuong Trang?

    An assailant with a bad weave and tacky pumps leaps from behind a car in the parking lot, wielding a Louisville Slugger. It’s our mysterious caller.

    McFadden: Oh, it’s you! Damn, we had a hell of a time didn’t we? Uh, what was your name again?

    The weaved assailant bull rushes McFadden with the fury of an outside linebacker. McFadden tries to dodge her attack, but trips over his shoelaces and does a face plant.

    The assailant proceeds to pummel McFadden repeatedly, striking his knee with a full swing that would have gotten a fastball out of a few ballparks.

    Caller: Hah, how you like THAT, punk?! Come on kids, get some.

    A horde of toddlers appear from all directions and swarm McFadden, kicking, biting, and ear-pulling.

    McFadden: B;ch, didn’t I have a Trojan on when I hit it?

    Caller: That ain’t stoppin’ ME from gettin’ paid. Once I’m done with you, I’m headin’ to Ray Lewis’ house.

  • http://FunnyAsACrutch TVs Anson Williams

    # LA to TheBay Says:
    October 29th, 2009 at 8:57 am

    TVs Anson Williams Says:
    October 29th, 2009 at 8:57 am
    LA to TheBay: You can WRITE. I’m not saying I necessarily agree with everything you say, mind you, but, damn, you can really string the words together.

    Thank you sir, however I am no M.

    That cat can write.
    *************************************

    Oh yeah, him too. It’s a veritable golden age.

  • Larz

    First play of the game against the Jets.

    Formation!!?, Formation!!? WTF does it matter what the formation is if your RT is blown completely up and you call 4 deep with an empty backfeild?

    Formation!!?? (Mora)

  • Kirk

    I predict a Raider victory on Sunday. We are playing a pass happy team coached by Norv Turner. It doesn’t get any better than that.

  • LA to TheBay

    M, preciate the link. Interesting stuff.

  • RaiderYYZ

    1) show up to play

    Cablevision, PLEASE give JaMarcus the chance to be successful. Where are the 2 tight-end sets? Do we really need Hey-Bey running 30 yards down the field every play?

    At least give us 3rd and 5, 3rd and 4…

    3rd and long with our wr’s isn’t going to win football games.

    IT’s NOT THAT COMPLICATED…

  • http://Raiders.com RaiderTW

    That’s easy: Just live in a state where fundamentalist religion dominates!
    ———-
    Watch out Bo, Dakota will call you a liar.lol

  • Larz

    Lets analyize what would have happened on the first play if JR had not fumbled.

    10 yd tripping penalty to Barnes puts us on the half yd line.

    Cable calls up the deep ball just because being “aggressive” is part of it.

    JR drops back and steps out of bounds and gives up the safety.

    Think about the play calling here….with the best punter in the world sitting on your bench.

  • LA to TheBay

    Larz,

    Yeah, fair of Cable to blame Russell for not lining them up right (although Bush should be aware of this as well, seeing as how they all practice together – or one could only assume), but to ask him to check down while he’s being sacked is asking a bit much.

    He was actually throwing the ball when he was hit and it was borderline incomplete.

    The pass in the endzone was just like Russell said, a 50/50. He’s trying to get his receiver to make a play and the pass is placed so that its defender/receiver/ball.

    Watkins goes down and Revis climbs the ladder and makes an outstanding (WR-like…hint, hint) play.

    The first INT is completely inexcusable, though.

    I think at that point, Cable was frustrated and impatient. He wanted to make a statement and see if his team would rally around a differnt signal caller.

    I’m glad he took at least partial responsibility for it and I don’t see him calling a similar game this Sunday.

    Now, where Russell really lost me was the post game interview. Man up, MF.

  • Larz

    121:

    Dead on!!

    JR is neither good enough or bad enough to have cost us that game.

    He had plenty of help starting with the play calling.

  • Larz

    If I were JR I would be trying to get myself out of the asylum, before this coach and the “madbomber” offense gets him killed.

    Contract settlement resign with an established team with a veteran QB and a “smart” coach,…sit on the bench and wait for your chance.

    His statements are reflecting his desire to play here thats all.

  • CJ Legend 34

    View at your own risk. If you are having a bad day don’t look at it. If you are having a good day don’t let it screww up day it is very alarming.

    Yes, it is the highlights of the Raiders-Jets game. What bothers me the most besides Russel’s play, he deserved to get pulled 100%. I support this guy but you can not make an excuse for the way he played. Plus, he holds the ball to d@mn long. If it is not there throw the ball out of bounds.

    What kills me the most is Sanchez was running around like welcome back Carter to the Sweat Hoggs. Dunking on our goal post, laughing, picking flowers, doing back flips. Heck he even had time to eat a hot dog during the game!!!Not one person took it upon themselves to say you know what I don’t care if we are losing I will be d@mned if I let this rookie come back to town and make fun of us like this. They played soft, they choked as a team. There was not one player on that field that I liked to watch that whole game. There is not one high-light to get excited about except when Cable pulled Russel. Go ahead take a look.

    http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d813b4404/NFL-GameDay-Jets-vs-Raiders-highlights

    I hope you guys have fun watching these clowns, I can’t do it this weekend. I am saving my football viewing time to watch a real NFL team. Every time I try to watch them it is a disappointment. Love the shield! Hate the team from Al Davis to Cable to Russel to the water boy.

  • LA to TheBay

    One can only assume its Al Davis telling Cable “OK, we got away with a victory against the Eagles despite your conservative play calling. We go back the original plan next game. We’ll catch ‘em sleeping. They’ll never know what hit ‘em.”

  • exlaraiderseasonticketholder

    Larz,
    It would have been 1/2 the distance to the goal. Ball on 5 1/2 yrd. line. LOL

  • LA to TheBay

    Also, as a defense, you can’t just quit when you’re down by 14 points.

    Their only defense is they knew our offense could produce nada.

    You see the Saints fold in Miami? Nope. Why?

    Brees.

    His team has the faith in him to continue to compete. He has the faith in his receivers to let it fly.

  • Larz

    Hey we called up a bomb against the Bronco’s from the 1/2 yd line when we had just stopped them.

    I think the defense is sick of the coach’s self indulgence wasting their effort.

  • raidaman12

    Lemme get this straight…the defense tackles like garbage and yet, they STILL don’t go live in practice? Well I guess that just explains it all!

    I believe Josh McDaniels has that D in Denver going live and look at their results…go figure huh?

  • LA to TheBay

    CJ

    More power to you.

    I have tried to shake this team. I have tried to watch other games.

    I get itchy. I get uncomfortable. And I feel like I’m rejecting part of myself.

    Can’t help it. I love the Raiders.

    I’ll be watching, for better or worse.

    Usually, I catch the Sunday and Monday night games if I’m looking for a real football contest.

  • http://www.blogcdn.com/www.fanhouse.com/media/2008/04/desmond-howard-425-sm.jpg Bo Schembechler Jackson

    RaiderTW Says:
    October 29th, 2009 at 9:20 am
    That’s easy: Just live in a state where fundamentalist religion dominates!
    ———-
    Watch out Bo, Dakota will call you a liar.lol

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    LMAO.

  • CJ Legend 34

    LA to TheBay Says:
    October 29th, 2009 at 9:33 am
    CJ

    More power to you.

    I have tried to shake this team. I have tried to watch other games.

    I get itchy. I get uncomfortable. And I feel like I’m rejecting part of myself.

    ————————————-

    I feel the same way when I don’t have a beer in my hand watching an NFL game. I understand what you are going through. : )

  • CJ Legend 34

    Larz,

    Mike Huff is going to be traded to another team that plays zone and he is going to be a great role player, watch!

  • Larz

    I watched poor Mike Huff having to play MLB all forth quarter.

    Why would a player want to stick around for that?

    JR is just a hillbilly kid with a big arm.
    People have won super bowls with QBs like that.

    Play calling effects the defense and the offense and the defense does not expect JR to be mistake free, but the head coach is putting them in very bad situations.

    Again with the best punter in the world you can have a low 3rd down conv rate,…but feild position and clock management are defense killers and the D has quit on “Cable”

  • Larz

    132:

    Denver’s defense has not changed to any great degree.

    Their offense is better suited for them.

    Gone is the boom bust big yard offense, insert a game plan that works for all three phases of the game.

    Its right out of Billicheks handbook.

    One Cable has not read yet.

  • http://Raiders.com RaiderTW

    CJ Legend, LA to TheBay, I tried quitting football after the 2003 season but when the Raiders signed Moss I thought, the more I want out, they keep pulling me back in! We all know how that turned out. Now I just watch the Raiders & don’t care about any other team. The main reason for quitting FB altogether is if they can blatantly screw the Raiders almost every game then it’s really just professional wrestling, isn’t it?

  • LA to TheBay

    Can we get someone who can get the ball past the 20 on KR?

    Are they afraid of risking injury to DHB or certain he doesn’t have the field vision?

    Even if he ran in a straight line, right into coverage, his chances of getting to the 20 are higher than those of Watkins or Hiram Eugene (wow, realy????) on a fair catch.

  • RaiderRockstar

    wow. more political crap. big surprise

    I expect more from the AM crew

    Anyways,

    “JaMarcus owes Higgins an apology and a ‘get well soon’ card, some chicken noodle soup and a teddy bear or something.”

    Yes. Russell also hangs his WR’s out to dry. Tony Gonzo even said as much last year to Zach Miller. Sad thing is that with even a decent QB at the helm Miller would be the best TE in the AFC – even if he played for KC …

  • http://Raiders.com RaiderTW

    RaiderRockstar, don’t you & your party have to go rewrite the bible?

  • RaiderRockstar

    JR is just a hillbilly kid with a big arm.
    People have won super bowls with QBs like that.

    ***

    Larz, nobody is gonna win anything with a QB “like JaWalrus” …

    Davis does a terrible job running the team and Cable does a terrible job of coaching it, but that doesn’t excuse Russell either. He’s easily the worst starting QB in the league

  • UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER

    LA to TheBay Says:
    October 29th, 2009 at 9:33 am
    CJ

    More power to you.

    I have tried to shake this team. I have tried to watch other games.

    I get itchy. I get uncomfortable. And I feel like I’m rejecting part of myself.

    Can’t help it. I love the Raiders.

    I’ll be watching, for better or worse.

    Usually, I catch the Sunday and Monday night games if I’m looking for a real football contest.

    ================
    i’m right there with you.

    even during a blowout i cannot change the channel to one of the better games.

  • Larz

    Reminds me of Kerry Collins hanging Moss out the first couple of games.

    81 suddenly grew a pair of aligator arms and was no where to be found.

  • RaiderRockstar

    TW,

    I live my life based upon what it teaches in the Bible aka the word of God. I would never attempt to rewrite it. Such a suggestion is both absurd and ignorant.

    religion changes you. you don’t change it.

    i’m done talking about things non-football related. If you don’t respect my decision to follow Christ thats your problem

  • Larz

    I watch the Raiders in the forth quarter of a preseason blow out.

    I love football anyways and you learn more about the players when the games out of reach than you do when everything is rosy.

    That’s why I beleive the Defense has quit on Cable.

    I was pleased with the play of Dez Bryant, Huff, Alston and Branch.

    The veterans quit.

  • LA to TheBay

    RRS,

    I’ll respect your viewpoint but my itchy trigger finger is just dying to punch in a diatribe, however I shall resist.

    Football it is.

    Anybody else think, besides some sloppy play last Sunday, that Tyvon Branch is a football player, not just a track star?

  • Larz

    Rock star:

    I am not a big JR fan, but he is no better or worse than Rick Rypian or Doug Williams.
    People ask me what my opinion is on JR…frankly I can’t tell you.
    Is he another Peyton Manning nope…no one is.
    Has he been handled like Big Ben when he came in as a rookie …nope…Falco…nope.

    The difference is we will never know, there is not enough around him to get a read on.
    The coach is not bright, no running game and no defense.
    O-line sucks, Eli lost one tackle and he looked ordinary.

    Judging JR is like judging a swimmer in the desert.

    Kids got a great stroke but he’s not going anywhere?..lol

  • http://Raiders.com RaiderTW

    Wow, RaiderRockstar, you’re more narrow minded & dogmatic than I originally thought, good luck.