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Murphy, Johnson can’t finish practice

News and notes from the Raiders open locker room session Thursday and post-practice press briefing from coach Tom Cable:

– Not sure it’s anything that could threaten their status for the game yet, but starting wide receiver Louis Murphy (hip) and cornerback Chris Johnson (groin) could not finish practice because of injuries and their status will be re-evaluated Friday.

If Murphy’s condition is a factor for Sunday, it would mean an increased role for Todd Watkins and perhaps even Javon Walker, because Chaz Schilens still isn’t practicing likely won’t play, either.

– Cable said Russell outwardly appears the same as always, but that he can see a difference in the way he is going about business.

“I actually see the same demeanor in terms of not letting things get to him but I’ve seen a little more attention to some things, which is good,” Cable said. “He’s in here early, he’s working at it. The fact that he’s had a chance to look at it after Sunday and take some responsibility for those kinds of things. It just adds to his motivation. He’s got to get better.”

– Cable said his starting offensive line would be Mario Henderson at left tackle, Chris Morris at left guard, Samson Satele at center, Cooper Carlisle at right guard and Khalif Barnes at right tackle.

Which means that Robert Gallery, limited in practice for the second straight day, is looking at a post-bye return against Kansas City Nov. 15 unless Cable pulls a surprise as he did the previous week with Barnes starting over Erik Pears.

– Cable is hopeful to see running back Darren McFadden (knee) and wide receiver/return specialist Nick Miller in action after the bye, but the fact is neither player is doing any hard running or cutting, doing most of their cardio work treadmills and stationary bikes.

“It’s where they’re at this coming Monday, as we start the bye,” Cable said. “Cause you really look at it as a two-week process for them to play. If it goes through the bye and we’re on that Monday of Kansas City, then I think that’s a real question. I’m not sure they would be ready at that point. But if they’ve got the full two weeks to do it, I think they can get that done.”

Miller, who made the team as an undrafted free agent out of Southern Utah, will have waited at least half a season to make his debut.

It’s rare a team would hold a roster spot for that long without putting the player on injured reserve _ even more rare when you consider the trouble the Raiders have had with their kickoff returns and punt returns.

“They put a lot of faith in me and I have faith in myself,” Miller said. “I know I can do it, so I’m just itching to get out there. If it was just play through the pain, I would. It’s not like that. If I feel pain I have to lay off, because that means (the injury is) still there. I want to prove to everybody I can play in this league.”

– Astute observation by defensive end Greg Ellis on regarding concussions in the wake of Roger Goodell’s testifying before the House Judiciary Committee about head injuries in the NFL:

“Yeah, it’s something that has to be taken seriously. And in most cases, it needs to get to the level where they are protecting us, the players, against our own selves. Since we started playing football as a little kid, you’re taught toughness, toughness, toughness.

“Some of us, if we can walk, we say, ‘OK, I’m good, I’m fine.’ My wife is getting on me all the time, ‘How you feeling, Greg?’ Well, I’m fine. ‘No, you’re not fine. Why are you doing this? There’s something wrong.’ But it’s just a conditioned thing. So, unfortunately, when it’s something that’s not going to be long-term, OK, it’s fine. But if it’s something where you’re talking about a head problem, then it needs to be supervised by somebody better than the players.”

– Free safety Michael Huff thinks the inability to stop the run has also effected the ability to get interceptions.

Huff had three interceptions in the first two games and none since.

“I think back then, we were stopping the run decently, so we made them throw the ball,” Huff said. “The main thing is us stopping the run and getting them in obvious passing situations to get the picks.”

Cable said Huff’s ability to be a more relaible last line of defense has been the reason for his return to the starting lineup.

“I remember when I first got here in ’07, (I saw) a good athlete, can run, can cover and all that, but he really just didn’t have that real `get after it’ in terms of a tackler,” Cable said. “When he got sat down last year and went to being a predominant special teams player, he really developed himself as a tackler. It has showed since that point, and he’s been very, very good for us this year.”

– LB Isaiah Ekejiuba was back at practice without limitations after being ill for two days with a stomach virus. Backup quarterback Bruce Gradkowski missed practice for the second straight day with the same ailment.

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  • M Lonetree

    4eva,

    perhaps Barrett Robbins can (if he escapes whatever custody he’s in) dress up as a San Diego player and lure all the Charger O-lineman down to Tijuana on Saturday night for some Dia de los Muertos libations.

  • 4evaRaider

    Ya know that aint 2 bad a suggestion M…I’m willing 2 try ANYTHING at this point.

    Also…the last time we were a dominating offense,we had a dominating center.Robbins would be in his 14th year and prolly still kicking azz!!!I also wanted Mack and yes I would have used the 7th overall pick on him =)

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  • BlackSunday32

    Gallery Mr.Guard cause everyone drafts Short-armed Guards with the 2 overall when Roethlisberger and Rivers are in same draft good ol short arms Gallery. Why is grabowski number 2 QB how could Frye not be much better.

  • PrideNPoise

    Gee! Let me rush back from a broken leg to rescue my 2-5 team from another lost season…! Personally, I don’t blame Schilens, Gallery and McFumble from waiting till after the bye week… At least they’re playing KC that week… Ugh.

  • hwnrdr

    Good Morning Nation!!!
    Happy Devil’s Night…bwuuaaahhhh!!!
    JaMarcus needs to get better? That’s a BIG understatement!!! Lets see Sunday.

  • maddenraiderfan

    JR will have his breakout game this week along side Javon Walker. 300 passing yards 3 TDs (JW will have 100+ yds and 2 TDs)

  • DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL

    GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S,HWNDR,4EVA

  • hwnrdr

    maddenraiderfan Says:
    October 30th, 2009 at 6:13 am
    JR will have his breakout game this week along side Javon Walker. 300 passing yards 3 TDs (JW will have 100+ yds and 2 TDs)

    I’ll be watching!!!
    Good Morning, Dirt Lot, 4eva!!!

  • DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL

    OK,NOBODY TOLD ME THE KOOL-AID WAS FLOOWING THIS MORNING,GIVE ME A DBL,WOULD LOVE TO SEE MR. RUSSELL JUST KILL SOMEBODY ON A QB SCRAMBLE / BROKEN PLAY. SHOW SOME NASTY ,LOWER A SHOULDER AND SEND A HELMET / CHIN- STRAP FLY’N, THEN GET UP AND YELL AT THE GUY FOR GETTING IN HIS WAY..O WELL I CAN DREAM I GUESS

  • hwnrdr

    I wish JR would be like Muhammad Ali!!!

  • exlaraiderseasonticketholder

    “Champions aren’t made in gyms. Champions are made from something they have deep inside them – a desire, a dream, a vision. They have to have last-minute stamina, they have to be a little faster, they have to have the skill and the will.” – Muhammad Ali

    I wish J.R. could read that!

  • DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL

    THE LAST PART OF THAT QUOTE,EXLA,”THEY HAVE TO HAVE THE SKILL AND THE WILL” A RARE COMBONATION,AND A RARE ATHALETE ANYMORE WHO HAS BOTH IMO.

  • BlackSunday32

    I love the their were good things and bad things . Losing 38-0 at home to a mediocre team what exactly were the good things? I wonder how come you never hear Peyton Manning or Tom Brady showing up early oh yeah right cause thats normal for them, 3 yrs in and he show up early what a hard worker.

  • M Lonetree

    DIRT LOT,

    I had a similar thought yesterday. Spread formation, JRuss takes either a quick drop or comes out of the shotgun on a QB draw where he purposefully smashes into whichever LB or safety that proposes to get in his way. He’ll probably fumble on the play as a large creature it might be fun for him to be the aggressor for a change.

  • M Lonetree

    Mediocre? Pathetic? Whatever. No time for that now. There’s a new ballgame on Sunday.

  • RaiderRockstar

    kudos to JaMarcus Russell for admitting he’s been awful this year and showing up for work early this week. Let’s hope this becomes a pattern and not just a ploy to get people off his back. He’s got a mentor in Charlie Frye. some guys are better teachers than players. maybe Frye is one of those guys?

    I give JR credit for taking steps toward growth. This doesn’t mean he’s not a bust. At least we know he’s thinking about putting the work in. If he shows up early every day this week and really applys himself I think we’ll see a big difference in his game on Sunday. If it’s a oen day fluke to get a pat on the back from the media then we’ll know he hasn’t changed and doesn’t plan on it … If Russell really is hungry (no pun intended) to succeed, I think Hackett & Tollner can take him there.

    Yes, even with this play caller, running game, o-line, defense and Wr corps!

  • CJ Legend 34

    Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    October 29th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
    Raiders suck. Al Davis sucks. Non boycotting fans suck. You heard it. You know it.

  • DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL

    I HEARD PAYTON MANNING SAY THAT HE LEARN’D AN AWFUL LOT ABOUT “FOOTBALL” IN THE 4TH QTR OF A LOT OF BLOW-OUT LOSSES IN HIS FIRST COUPLE OF YEARS IN INDY.MR.RUSSELL SHOULD BE GETTING A HELL OF AN EDUCATION..

  • CJ Legend 34

    *********Crabtree VS. DHB not apples to oranges & it has nothing to do with Chaz*******

    Man!!! We have been talking about these two since the draft so I want to get some things straight between their game. I was outraged when we took DHB over Crabtree in the draft. I was listening to the draft, on the radio, working in my garage and when we took DHB with Crabs still on the board, I was cursing so loud my wife came out the house and yelled at me. She said the neighbors can hear you down the street. At the time, I really did not give a $#!t but since she was making one heck of a gumbo that day I calmed myself down. After that I got to thinking about the two WRs game. With Crabtree he had great hands, great moves and most of his big plays came off of short underneath routes from WR screens that he would advance, 5-10 yard outs, ability to break tackles. I was thinking to myself this guy would be better suited for a west coast offense type of system. Plus, as you all know we had Chaz that seemed like he was ready to break out. So I said to myself Crabtree would have been able to help us in the short term but with him what you see is what you get. Now after the draft we all found out Crab’s was an arrogant @$$ so it really did not matter to me, I was glad we did not take the guy. Plus I think he made it clear he did not want to be a Raider (I wonder why?).

    Now this leads to DHB. When he was in college he had the big frame, the speed, but he was very raw in terms of running crisp routes and making disciplined Jerry Rice/Chris Carter league catches. Also he needed one more year of college experience to me, but at a top 10 pick, I would have left school. Crabtree looked more fundamentally sound when it came to making safe catches to keep the chains moving (Gannon would have loved the kid, the arrogant SOB), but when you look at DHB’s game he seemed to have the most possible upside. Not just because of the speed and big frame but what he was able to accomplish. His QB unlike Russell had no zip on the ball. He had to jump up and catch floaters (that is not Russels game now he is catching high bullets). His college coach had to find ways to get him the ball such as jump balls in the corner of the end zone, WR reverses, 3-5 yard quick passes, half back passes to him running posts and drags. He can make some nice catches when he wants to make them he is just not consistent (you know like TO), but you know you have to account for the guy because when he gets that size and speed going down hill, good luck! DHB has the potential to be a game breaker. Crabtree has the potential as a possession WR to keep the chains moving.

    Now lets look at how SF used Crabtree his first game. 1st play of scrimmage the inside WR runs a clear out for him to make an easy 3 yard catch (just to break him in and get the 1st catch in the NFL out the way). They do about (2) 5-10 yard outs with him and in the game with his confidence up he makes (2)10-15 yard catches in traffic. What a basic way to work a rookie into his first game.

    Now lets look at how the Raiders handle DHB. The first game we have him streaking down the field as a decoy running deep route after deep route and blocking for running plays. Now DHB made a name for himself running reverses at Maryland (so did the great Tim Brown at ND. We waited until the TX game to let him run 1 WR reverse that he got about 5 yards on. How many times have we threw DHB a quick 3-5 yard pass to let him use his natural ability to make a play? I don’t know. We have two running backs that played QBs in HS and through nice halfback passes in college in DMAC and Bush. How many half back passes to Bush have you seen so far? “0″. Delaware killed teams with that half back pass to DHB. They would commit to stopping the run and DHB with that speed would blow right by and make them pay for it (you know we did not try that one time). How many WR screens have we used with DHB? None! I know some of you are saying they don’t work in the pros. Well SF did it for Crabtree and worked just fine. Right now everyone knows are game is vertical and the power run and where do the Raiders send their rookie Ferrari vertical right where the veteran DBs know he is going. Cable will most likely say DHB is clearing out for Zach Miller but you know what? Russell is not finding him at all.

    I understand players have to execute but every good coach, parent, manager or leader knows you have to play to peoples strengths first. You build on their strengths once they get comfortable then you throw something new at them. We run such a basic and predictable offense it could make even a WR like Randy Moss look bad (oops! That already happened he helped himself).

  • DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL

    WELL SAID AS USUAL ROCKSTAR,HOPEFULLY HE IS NOT IN EARLY 4 FIRST SHOT AT THE BREAKFAST SPREAD AT THE FACILITY…

  • RaiderRockstar

    I had a similar thought yesterday. Spread formation, JRuss takes either a quick drop or comes out of the shotgun on a QB draw where he purposefully smashes into whichever LB or safety that proposes to get in his way. He’ll probably fumble on the play as a large creature it might be fun for him to be the aggressor for a change.

    ***

    LOL. good idea. they say he’s more comfortable in the shotgun …

    can you imagine a defense looking at a Raider team in the spread though?

    Heyward-Bey, Walker & Watkins this week. haha.

    teams would blitz like crazy all day long

  • http://blstb.msn.com/i/55/90A2853B6CFBCC2AFC987BB18B832.jpg vegas raider

    All this losing, and they way they are losing, is taking it’s toll on me. Watching the Warriors blow the game the other night, just like the Raiders they lose the same heart-breaking way year-after-year, moved me closer to the ledge.

    I see the Cal Bears hoops team is ranked #13. Great. More hype for me to get excited, and they will probably lose a bunch of heart-breakers and end up in the NIT.

    I need some damn wins!!!!!!

    At least Jamarcus was in at 6:30. Doing something like that after his worst game ever doesn’t mean much. If he does it after a win when we plays “well”, now that would send ripples through the team. I’m sure some teammates just rolled their eyes when they heard he came in early, like “About time” and “thanks for realizing it in week 8!!”

  • RaiderRockstar

    holy smokes CJ. it would take me 10 minutes to read that novel. i’m also trying to work at the same time brother … haha

  • RaiderRockstar

    At least Jamarcus was in at 6:30. Doing something like that after his worst game ever doesn’t mean much. If he does it after a win when we plays “well”, now that would send ripples through the team. I’m sure some teammates just rolled their eyes when they heard he came in early, like “About time” and “thanks for realizing it in week 8!!”

    ***

    good post Vegas. seems like very few Raiders players have came out and publicly backed JR. Frye and Greg Ellis are probably his 2 biggest supporters besides Al Davis (because he drafted him and his paying him boatloads of cash)

  • http://blstb.msn.com/i/55/90A2853B6CFBCC2AFC987BB18B832.jpg vegas raider

    Rockstar,

    Is anyone else a little concerned with Charlie Frye being the “wise old owl”? Nothing against Charlie, but he talks all this about how he grew from his mistakes and such. Really? It is easy to say that as the 3rd string QB for the Oakland Raiders. He hasn’t done anything since his benching on the field.

    Just my view from out here. Whatever reason that Jamarcus came in early is a giant step in the right direction, but let me know when he is doing it consistantly.

  • RaiderRockstar

    let’s hope one of 2 things happen before game time on Sunday …

    #1 CJ is healthy and ready to play

    #2 Nnamdi is matched up with Vincent Jackson for every snap

    I just can’t imagine Routt trying to cover VJ for an entire game. Rivers would pick him apart. Routt gets burned pretty often by average WR’s. Can’t picture him holding his own against one of the 3 best WR’s in his division. VJ is not only fast, but very physical. Chris Johnson always seems to elevate his game against SD. we need him in this contest

  • RaiderRockstar

    who has a better shot at winning on Sunday?

    Vince Young vs the Jags or JR vs the Dolts ?

  • hwnrdr

    That depends, Rockstar. Which team is showing up on Sunday? The Raiders that played their buts off opening night and against Philly, or the Raiders that showed up the other 5 games. Vince Young is probably itching to get back and show what he can do to get Tennessee their first win. The Raiders should play every game like they have nothing to lose!

  • CJ Legend 34

    I was on a role brother. Go back to it and read a paragraph each half-hour. LOL!
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    RaiderRockstar Says:
    October 30th, 2009 at 7:20 am
    holy smokes CJ. it would take me 10 minutes to read that novel. i’m also trying to work at the same time brother … haha

  • hwnrdr

    Good Day Nation and have a Happy Halloween!!!

  • http://atm Raider O

    Good Morning Nation.

    Gilbert,

    I love the Raiders as you know, but I just don’t see them turning things around this season.

    Cable is the worst play caller in the NFL, and his team is almost never ready to compete on Sundays.

    Fire Cable!!

  • RaiderRockstar

    see ya Hwnrdr

    i’m out too…

    carpe diem!

  • http://atm Raider O

    How can we play 2 great games, and then not show up for the other 5.

    That’s on Cable for not having his team ready to play every Sunday.

  • CJ Legend 34

    Just when I thought I heard it all. There are some peopele out there that get up and out at 6:30 in the morning just to earn $20,000 a year. Russell does it one morning at $68 mill and he can’t motivated to do it on a daily basis? Either he does and we just don’t know it or I/we have sadly over estimated this young man.

    I am not a Russell beater because he has had a bad on the field situation with rookie WRs and such but I can’t give kudos for this guy doing it one day after a terrible game. He is doing what he is suppose to do!

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    RaiderRockstar Says:
    October 30th, 2009 at 7:02 am
    kudos to JaMarcus Russell for admitting he’s been awful this year and showing up for work early this week. Let’s hope this becomes a pattern and not just a ploy to get people off his back. He’s got a mentor in Charlie Frye. some guys are better teachers than players. maybe Frye is one of those guys?

    I give JR credit for taking steps toward growth. This doesn’t mean he’s not a bust. At least we know he’s thinking about putting the work in. If he shows up early every day this week and really applys himself I think we’ll see a big difference in his game on Sunday. If it’s a oen day fluke to get a pat on the back from the media then we’ll know he hasn’t changed and doesn’t plan on it … If Russell really is hungry (no pun intended) to succeed, I think Hackett & Tollner can take him there.

    Yes, even with this play caller, running game, o-line, defense and Wr corps!

  • Teabag

    Well, the team sucked to begin with… Not much talent there… Now they suck and are injured at almost every position…. So, here is your 2009 Oakland Raiders.. Yay!

  • http://RAIDERS Oakglenn

    # La Milicia Negra Says:
    October 30th, 2009 at 2:37 am

    # La Milicia Negra Says:
    October 29th, 2009 at 9:19 pm

    OakGlenn…

    you still think Khalif Barnes was a great acquisition? or are you slowly ready to agree with me, we should never had touched him in offseasons, do you finally agree that it was a huge mistake to give that guy money???
    ________________________________________________________

    and the rest of you who defended the acquisition, you still havent said anything about this “great pick-up”… LOL
    =============================================

    I don’t think I did defend picking up Khalif Barnes as a “great acquisition”, and I will tell you why: teams don’t let marquee left tackles in their prime just walk away. If I defended Barnes it would have been in the context of wanting offensive linemen. I ABSOLUTELY advocated getting one with the overall number 7 choice in the last draft. Still seems like an olineman would have been a good decision now halfway thru this season.

  • The Big Banana

    I agree with you CJ. Kudos to a guy making that much for finally putting some effort into bettering himself? Puhleaze!

    And as far as admitting that he was awful this year. Maybe I didn’t get the same thing out of his interview that others did. I heard him say there were mistakes in the last game. Where did he say he’s been awful this year?

  • Richochet

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    October 30th, 2009 at 7:02 am
    kudos to JaMarcus Russell for admitting he’s been awful this year and showing up for work early this week. Let’s hope this becomes a pattern and not just a ploy to get people off his back. He’s got a mentor in Charlie Frye. some guys are better teachers than players. maybe Frye is one of those guys?

    I give JR credit for taking steps toward growth. This doesn’t mean he’s not a bust. At least we know he’s thinking about putting the work in. If he shows up early every day this week and really applys himself I think we’ll see a big difference in his game on Sunday. If it’s a oen day fluke to get a pat on the back from the media then we’ll know he hasn’t changed and doesn’t plan on it … If Russell really is hungry (no pun intended) to succeed, I think Hackett & Tollner can take him there.

    ==========================
    ARE YOU SERIOUS???
    wtf???

    That’s NOT how it works in pro sports.
    His showing up early, that was an OBVIOUS PLOY BECAUSE ALL HE’S HEARD IS YOU DON’T PUT IN THE EXTRA TIME, was only that..geez..it’s end of Oct. IN HIS THIRD YEAR. Assuming ONLY a 40 hour week, JR has had 4,300 HOURS IN ORDER TO APPLY HIMSELF SINCE HE SHOWED UP IN SEPT two years ago.

    FOUR THOUSAND PLUS HOURS..and now? showed up what? a HOUR AND A HALF EARLY..and now..if he does it a couple more days, he’s going to magically use those handful of hours in some way that trumps the previous 4000?

    lol…no peanut..it’s all for those who, LIKE YOU who say ‘Oh goody, look Ma..he got out of bed.”

    And saying “I’m glad he finally realized it”???

    The guy would have to be as dumb as a log to not realize it.
    Oh wait.

    It’s JR.

    Never mind.

  • http://www.blogcdn.com/www.fanhouse.com/media/2008/04/desmond-howard-425-sm.jpg Bo Schembechler Jackson

    Anyone pushing the Mavericks tonight?

  • neilb

    morning all.

  • Larz

    If a fisherman gets up early and gets to the lake with no gear and the wrong bait does that make him a better fisherman?
    Nope just a guy looking at a lake.

    He could sleep at the facility and dream about an o-line and pro receivers, a running back and a playbook that has more than three pages, but it will not change.
    Until a coach is hired! or a new play caller is in place.

    His play is poor but don’t hide all of our problems behind JRs alarm clock.

    Kenny Stabler probably wasn’t a morning person either.

    The difference he had a TEAM!

  • neilb

    Is Hallowe’en celebrated on the 30th in the States ?

  • Richochet

    Raider O Says:
    October 30th, 2009 at 8:33 am
    How can we play 2 great games, and then not show up for the other 5.

    That’s on Cable for not having his team ready to play every Sunday.
    ======================
    Two great games?
    This year?
    Raiders played two great games….THIS YEAR??

    Lol…ok…I’ll play…AGAINST WHO?

    Raiders beat two crappy teams, who, by many’s view, played a really crappy game, and basically handed the games away. Granted, a W is a W, but great games?

    “Shirley”…you jest.

  • neilb

    Richochet…

    I know we lost but what about the San Diego game ?

  • Larz

    1.Play calling does not fit the personnel= 85% of the problems.
    Lack of ability or experiance at key positions= 10% of our problems.

    QB being in the facility half an hour sooner every day= not much.

    QB thinking he is still a star like he was in high school and it will all come naturally =5%

    I know it makes for more sensational posting but let’s get real about why our record is what it is.

  • http://atm Raider O

    Rich,

    We played well against the Eagles & Dischargers. You are right, we didn’t play great, but well enough to win 1 and compete in the other.

  • Brien the Grand Guru

    Larz shut up!

    It is 100%= Al Davis and his prized selected scholarship player Jamarcus Russell. That isthe problem is 2009.

    Any other bullshhht you say doesnt need to be said again!

  • Brien the Grand Guru

    Russell sucks Russell sucks Russell sucks Russell sucks

  • Larz

    Yup,

    JR gave up 316 yds on the ground last week.

    JR threw 4 dropped ints in the 4th qtr.

    there was no difference in the offense when he went out and it was against a jets D that had completly called off the dogs.

    WR still dropped balls and the O-line still didn’t block.

    He but maybe if Gradkowski had come in on wednesday at 5am we would have won.

    You sir are a total ock.