Another streak on the line
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Saturday, October 31st, 2009 at 8:26 am in Oakland Raiders.
Beating the Chargers seems unlikely, given on response of the oddsmakers who have made the some 16-point favorites last time I looked (they’re pretty good at their job) and the Raiders’ own play of late.
But it seemed unlikely the Raiders would beat Kansas City two years ago, given their nine-game losing streak to the Chiefs and a staggering 19 game run of defeats in the AFC West. Both of those streaks came to an end when the Raiders prevailed 20-17.
In Week 4 of that season, on Sept. 30, Oakland beat up the Miami Dolphins 35-17, rushing for 299 yards, ending a 12-game losing streak on the road.
For what it’s worth, Justin Fargas helped put away both of those games with big second halves, gaining 139 yards on 22 carries against the Chiefs and 179 yards on 22 carries against the Dolphins.
A big by game Fargas (or Michael Bush, or both) would seem mandatory if the Raiders are to end their one remaining streak. The San Diego Chargers own a 12-game winning streak over the Raiders, with Oakland last winning 34-31 on Sept. 28, 2003.
A few other facts regarding the series and the streak before I had off for a the better part of the day to a fall baseball tournament:
– The Chargers have scored at least 21 points in all 12 games. The Raiders have never scored more than 20. They lost 24-20 in Week 1 this season.
– The Chargers have won by an average of 15.0 points (they are plus-180 in the 12 games). The average score is 28.25-13.25.
– The Chargers won by more than seven points nine of 12 times.
– The Raiders held a 54-31-2 advantage in the first 87 games of the series.
– San Diego running back LaDainian Tomlinson is 39 yards shy of gaining 2,000 career yards against the Raiders going into his 18th game. The Raiders won four of the first five against San Diego when Tomlinson arrived.
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October 31st, 2009 at 8:33 am
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
October 31st, 2009 at 8:35 am
It was DAvis that gave up on McFadden. He HAD NO BUSINESS WASTING THAT PICK ON DARREN MCFADDEN.
But that tantalizing 40x struck again
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YUP WE CAN THAN AL FOR
JaDarrenBey
October 31st, 2009 at 8:34 am
Last time a 17 point dog won outright in the NFL was 1995, when the Redskins beat the Cowboys.
The Raiders also sandwiched a victory between 2 37+ point losses, last time that happened was 1992 (Atlanta Falcons).
Just read those little tid-bits that I thought were interesting.
October 31st, 2009 at 8:35 am
It was DAvis that gave up on McFadden. He HAD NO BUSINESS WASTING THAT PICK ON DARREN MCFADDEN.
But that tantalizing 40x struck again
October 31st, 2009 at 8:37 am
How come Fargas can have 2 halves like that in a couple of weeks, and Darren will have only 1 after two years?
Darren pisses me off more than Russell. At least once in a blue moon, we see the immense talent in Russell. Never seen it from Darren, his greatest run he got caught from behind by a LB, fumbled and got hurt. He never seems THAT fast, and I can’t remember one play that sticks out and says that is why he was the #4 pick. How can one of the great runners in SEC history seem so average in the NFL?
October 31st, 2009 at 8:38 am
Priesttj,
I am very frustrated. I didn’t have any illusions of this team winning 10 games and going to the playoffs.
All I want is effort and competition. Its been 7 yrs since this team has even bothered to compete on a regular basis.
I get the youth movement and all that. But this team gets blown out way too many times. That’s a lack of focus, professionalism and just plain competence.
Its unacceptable
October 31st, 2009 at 8:39 am
Given all that. I don’t even care if they win or lose tomorrow. I just want a competitive game. If they can repeat the MNF game…I will be more than happy with that.
Show me that the team is progressing. Show me that they are getting better at something other than the Punter position.
That’s all! I don’t care about wins and losses. Just compete and stop embarrassing themselves every freekn week
October 31st, 2009 at 8:40 am
YUP WE CAN THAN AL FOR
JaDarrenBey
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Very exspensive individual…
Has Mr. Davis seen a return on investment?
October 31st, 2009 at 8:41 am
Team wont be competitive until ownership becomes competitive….
October 31st, 2009 at 8:42 am
UP,
Should have stuck with Fargas and Bush!
Should have stuck with Andrew Walter
Should have stuck with Johnnie Lee Higgins
Didn’t need McFadden
Didn’t need Russell
Didn’t need Heyward-Bust
Could of had
Sedrick Ellis or Ryan Claddy
Calvin Johnson
B.J Raji / Rey Mauluga / Alex Mack
October 31st, 2009 at 8:43 am
Desire to win, and puting your self in a position to win is two diffrent things. Mr. Davis wants to win , but he does not put the team in a position to win….
October 31st, 2009 at 8:45 am
Or:
JaDarius McFadden-Huff
October 31st, 2009 at 8:49 am
Thec07
Davis won’t let a coach do their job.
Namely manage the players, instill discipline and draw up the game plan.
That’s why many say its impossible to win in Oakland.
Then you pile on bad draft picks and free agent signings and you have a disaster
October 31st, 2009 at 8:50 am
I think JLH is done, he got drilled and has never recovered fully from it.
It happens in a lot of physical sports, football, boxing even Nascar (after a crash).
He has lost his edge, and was dropping passes all pre-season any ways. You can see it on his PR, he is looking for the sidelines and is not going up the field. He is running scared out there.
October 31st, 2009 at 8:52 am
Vegas Raider,
McFadden has no excuses. Running backs are supposed to succeed regardless. Adrian Peterson is a real running back…those guys in Carolina are real running backs. They face 8 and 9 man fronts…they’ve been in offenses with no passing threat….Chris Johnson is a real running back to.
McFadden is another overhyped SEC bust
October 31st, 2009 at 8:53 am
SnB,
We should have taken any of the 3 USC LB’s in last year’s draft. Cushing should win defensive ROY and is in the top 10 in tackles, and Matthews has won rookie of the week and has scored a TD. Rey might be the worst of the 3.
October 31st, 2009 at 8:54 am
Vegas Raider,
I think JLH on the bench is more of that Tom Cable B.S of picking his favorites over talent.
JLH has been playing football his entire life. He hasn’t lost his edge.
Davis and Cable are force feeding the offense a full helping of Darius Heyward-Bey
October 31st, 2009 at 8:59 am
Vegas Raider,
The owner is not as smart as people claim he is.
He hasn’t really done a good job in over 20yrs.
MOst of his picks are ridiculous and he has no concept of what a team really is.
No way he drafts a linebacker high. He thinks that any front 7 or offensive line position is a plug n play position. Look at all the undrafted free agents and late round picks that play in the front 7 / o-line.
Meanwhile, the secondary and skill positions are full of high round busts!
October 31st, 2009 at 9:01 am
SnB,
JLH was on the field plenty week 1. Since than he needed a week off to clear the cobwebs, and hasn’t come back on his PR, and is fumbling a bunch.
Players lose there edge from time to time, it’s what happens in professional sports all the time, for one reason or another. He needs to have a big-gainer to gain his confidence back, but until than, he is very timid, and it is plain as day to see.
October 31st, 2009 at 9:04 am
SnB,
The only skill position I would be OK with drafting in the first 3 rounds would be a RB. They need O-line and LB help, and 4th and 5th rounders isn’t going to cut it.
Chris Johnson this week will face 8 or 9 in the box with VY at QB and will probably have a better game than Darren will all year.
It comes down to breaking tackles in the NFL, you see Peterson truck that DB in Pitt last week? Deangelo Williams breaking 4 or 5 tackles for his 20 yard TD run last week. At some point in time as a NFL RB, you have to know that everybody knows you are getting the ball, yet they can’t tackle you. Darren just gives up, slips or fall’s down, and NEVER breaks tackles.
October 31st, 2009 at 9:17 am
“I don’t think it’s me personally, I really don’t. It’s a bad combination of one guy doesn’t so somethin right one time and he doesn’t do… no, it all plays a… play… I personally don’t think it’s me… Do you think so?”
October 31st, 2009 at 9:24 am
NASCAR is not a sport!
Since when is driving a car in circles is considered a sport?!
October 31st, 2009 at 9:26 am
one guy doesn’t so somethin right
October 31st, 2009 at 9:34 am
it all plays a… play…
October 31st, 2009 at 9:41 am
The national pastime in the 70’s was drinking & driving and that was most certainly a sport. We mostly drove in a square though. Down the main drag, turn left, turn left, turn left, down the main drag again. Repeat untill busted or a party turns up.
October 31st, 2009 at 9:47 am
if Branch is our SS, so what does mean for Mike M.
He was a 2nd RD pick! You don’t draft people that high to be backups.
Let Branch play FS, and have MM play SS. Don’t try to play him as a LB!!!!!!! Stop doing that. He played S at HS and College, so don’t do to himwhat you did to others over the years.
October 31st, 2009 at 9:49 am
LMAO @ 24.
October 31st, 2009 at 9:57 am
Raiders 0 Chargers 34 – Until something changes this is going to be a reoccurring theme.
I love the Raiders but they are horrible
October 31st, 2009 at 9:58 am
To be honest, I don’t see any light in tunnel, every QB coming out next year is a project, ppl are saying Lockler is legit, to me his another JR strong arm no accuracy, Brad played with the best OL and when he faced blitz he choked also never took any snab from the center. McCoy same along with another Junior the Notre Dam QB, Snead a bum this year, Tim Tebow maybe a wildcat player not an Nfl QB.
Best hope Mcnabb sucks this year, gets cut and AL signs him or else we end up with maybe Anderson, Vick, Brady Quin, u guys name it. Without a good QB we will never win.
October 31st, 2009 at 10:11 am
Raider O Says:
October 31st, 2009 at 9:47 am
if Branch is our SS, so what does mean for Mike M.
He was a 2nd RD pick! You don’t draft people that high to be backups.
Let Branch play FS, and have MM play SS. Don’t try to play him as a LB!!!!!!! Stop doing that. He played S at HS and College, so don’t do to himwhat you did to others over the years.
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Dude, don’t believe the hype, MM is a YouTube highlight, it’s like Kimbo Slice beating bums at the backyard and MMA signing him for his YouTube potential, I don’t care if the bears were going to take a chance on him, he should never been picked that high, a YouTube project should be at least a 5th rounder, don’t understand why you guys believe an old man who clearly has a bad track record on drafting Safeties, when last time Al drafted a legit all pro safety? Thank u, MM=Gibson
October 31st, 2009 at 10:14 am
vegas raider Says:
October 31st, 2009 at 9:01 am
SnB,
JLH was on the field plenty week 1. Since than he needed a week off to clear the cobwebs, and hasn’t come back on his PR, and is fumbling a bunch.
Players lose there edge from time to time, it’s what happens in professional sports all the time, for one reason or another. He needs to have a big-gainer to gain his confidence back, but until than, he is very timid, and it is plain as day to see.
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At least JLH has demonstrated an edge. One of the few NFL receivers to have a moment of synergy with this QB of ours.
DHB has done jackshUU>..Todd Watkins is not even an NFL talent. and Murphy would be ok if there was a stud starting opposite him.
JLH not playing is ridiculous and shows that the coaches/owner have no clue.
October 31st, 2009 at 10:22 am
Why would you move Tyvon Branch at all? The guy is the best safety the Raiders have had since Rod Woodson.
You finally have a football player that is developing the right way. Not unlike all the other busts that litter this roster.
Mike Mitchell? Let him play free safety. Just like Raiders4eve said about the YouTube reference.
I am not risking the development of a young player that is actually getting the job done for another highlight reel physical specimen.
Again, play him at free safety if you think he can play.
Branch is arguably the 2nd best defender on the team (Asomugha #1)
October 31st, 2009 at 10:32 am
Raiders4eve,
The Raiders organization, coaching is not good enough to develop players at any position let alone QB.
The Raiders don’t have the stability, patience and intelligence to properly develop a QB.
I would be AGAINST this team ever drafting a QB again.
They are better served going the retread route and hoping they get lucky. I would seriously target the following QB that need a fresh start:
1. Mark Bulger
2. Rex Grossman
3. Michael Vick
4. Jason Campbell
5. JP Losman
I would also take out a flier on Josh Johnson in Tampa Bay and would invite back Andrew Walter
October 31st, 2009 at 10:34 am
I agree with post 31. But I wouldn’t say Branch is the second best, Seymour, Elllis are way better and being in the professionalism needed for Branch to succeed. Branch is improving but he still not one of the best but he is improving alot. I would like to see ints or forced fumbles, knock out Wrs head, basically a guy that creates fear for opposing team like Adrian Wilson and Troy Polumola does. Hopefully he gains some weight cause for sole reason he looks like FS.
October 31st, 2009 at 10:40 am
I agree with post 31. But I wouldn’t say Branch is the second best, Seymour, Elllis are way better and being in the professionalism needed for Branch to succeed. Branch is improving but he still not one of the best but he is improving alot. I would like to see ints or forced fumbles, knock out Wrs head, basically a guy that creates fear for opposing team like Adrian Wilson and Troy Polumola does. Hopefully he gains some weight cause for sole reason he looks like FS.
Our problem is not DBs it’s bum LBs, Alston, Brown, Morrison n even fan fav Howard are bums. Good in pass coverage, horrible against the run. For those blaming the DTs watch the film most rans are on the right side, knowing Alston is a bum n Morrison will get man handled by a TE, do u think Patrick Wilis gets manhandled by TE?
October 31st, 2009 at 10:46 am
read a reference above to McFade’s 40X. Chris Johnson blew him away. So why don’t the Raider’s have the Titan RB instead of McFade?
October 31st, 2009 at 10:50 am
SnB
If your gonna draft Ht/Wt/Speed specimens, then Coaching is a premium, no?
October 31st, 2009 at 10:57 am
SnB Offense Defense Specialteams Says:
October 31st, 2009 at 10:32 am
Raiders4eve,
The Raiders organization, coaching is not good enough to develop players at any position let alone QB.
The Raiders don’t have the stability, patience and intelligence to properly develop a QB.
I would be AGAINST this team ever drafting a QB again.
They are better served going the retread route and hoping they get lucky. I would seriously target the following QB that need a fresh start:
1. Mark Bulger
2. Rex Grossman
3. Michael Vick
4. Jason Campbell
5. JP Losman
I would also take out a flier on Josh Johnson in Tampa Bay and would invite back Andrew Walter
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Losman is playing in a league where there is absolute no blitz and a QB is allowed to intentionally ground the ball, he looks good but who wouldn’t if there is no blitz. Grossman really had a chance more than JR remember what was his problem ints and injury prone. I like Campbell and Bulger, I think Vick needs more than this year to comeback to his form, he lost major steps, I still Mcnabb can be our Gannon at his age and accomplishment, but we need to fix this horrible line, RT, RG, C and depth in LG and LT. Hopefully, Al is willing to open his paycheck next year on this area, no stupid Barnes for a mill or kwame Harris even though I still think Harris can transform his career just like Gallery if he moves to RG. We need a big atheltic center wish we drafted Alex Mack or trade for him, they can have JR lol.
October 31st, 2009 at 10:59 am
KoolKell Says:
October 31st, 2009 at 10:50 am
SnB
If your gonna draft Ht/Wt/Speed specimens, then Coaching is a premium, no?
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Yep. Al needs to hire a GM and a top notch coach, no more puppets or here for the money, everything starts with Al rrcognizing his formula is wrong.
October 31st, 2009 at 11:03 am
KoolKell Says:
October 31st, 2009 at 10:50 am
SnB
If your gonna draft Ht/Wt/Speed specimens, then Coaching is a premium, no?
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Totally agree. Drafting project players that need expert coaching.
But the Owner can’t recruit good coaches because the Owner insists on setting the scheme, strategy and starting lineup. In addition, the Owner wouldn’t allow a good coach the authority to instill the discipline and lockerroom environment necessary.
So Al Davis needs to bring in veteran players that don’t need the leadership and hopes he gets lucky.
The root cause is Al davis. The worst owner in pro-sports.
I am just trying to find a way that this team could at least be competitive on Sundays. I know that winning seasons are out of reach as long as Davis runs things the way he currently does.
I also know that wins are hard to come by. I don’t expect this team to win any more. Won’t get my hopes up like that. But I do like the Raiders and enjoy watching them. All I am asking is that they are competitive. That’s all….talk about lowered expectations
October 31st, 2009 at 11:04 am
Yeah thats gonna happen.
# Raiders4eve Says:
October 31st, 2009 at 10:59 am
Yep. Al needs to hire a GM and a top notch coach, no more puppets or here for the money, everything starts with Al rrcognizing his formula is wrong.
October 31st, 2009 at 11:16 am
I will go ahead and say it. RAIDERS WIN!
October 31st, 2009 at 11:19 am
Bobby Bushay Says:
October 31st, 2009 at 11:16 am
I will go ahead and say it. RAIDERS WIN!
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I just hope they compete……..
I would be very pleased if they put forth 3QTRs of solid effort.
October 31st, 2009 at 11:24 am
3 QTRs of professional level football is all I am looking for.
Can these overpaid players get that done. Can they execute a game plan
October 31st, 2009 at 11:34 am
priesttj Says:
October 31st, 2009 at 1:44 am
“Wrong about what DUMBELL?? that this team is a work in progress..”
October 31st, 2009 at 11:37 am
I see Oakglenn registered under yet another name, to try and convince us that he and Priest aren’t the only ones who still have faith in this team. Hello, “Bobby Bushay”.
October 31st, 2009 at 11:59 am
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
October 31st, 2009 at 11:37 am
I see Oakglenn registered under yet another name, to try and convince us that he and Priest aren’t the only ones who still have faith in this team. Hello, “Bobby Bushay”.
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That raises an interesting question: Where does hope end and faith begin? Because I still have hope, every Sunday, that maybe, just maybe, this is the week they figure it out; but I must admit my faith, both short term as well as long, has long since flown the coop. No one here gets out alive.
October 31st, 2009 at 12:28 pm
Bobby and Tv Anson = Oakglenn and Priest, faags get the hell out of here
October 31st, 2009 at 12:48 pm
I hope Growitzki plays in the second quarter, I can’t stand this bust QB JR, hopefully next year Mcnabb gets cut or Al trades 4 him.
October 31st, 2009 at 1:03 pm
I understand what you guys are saying about Branch, he played CB at college at can play FS. He is faster and smaller than Mitchell, and that why I want him as our FS, and have the stronger hard hitting S closer to the LOS.
We can’t tell if Mitchell is a YouTube star like Kimbo, or if he is a Beast at S unless he plays. Play Mitchell!
October 31st, 2009 at 1:12 pm
Mitchell does play he just doesn’t start
October 31st, 2009 at 1:16 pm
Branch is doing very well, but think of how much more he can do if he wasn’t being blocked by a TE, FB, or even an Olineman. He is 204 pounds max, and has great speed. Let him him play FS ( deep S), and he can do a lot more. IMHO
Mitchell who is 6′1 220 can play better at the LOS if he uses his strength & body. Both Ss love contact, so let’s put them both on the field.
October 31st, 2009 at 1:25 pm
Branch & Mitchell at Ss!
Draft a Hard Hittitng LB, and a Nasty DT!
I also think we need another CB. CJ is not the answer.
That should fix this soft Defense!
Draft a RT, RG, and a C!
Hire a HC with Exp, and that should help the entire team.
Fire Cable and his staff! They are a joke!
October 31st, 2009 at 1:28 pm
I don’t doubt it, Raiders4eve, re: Oak and Priest. They are at the peak of their desperation. It’s never been this bad in Oakland.
October 31st, 2009 at 1:34 pm
408,
They use him at Goal line situations most of the time, so he needs to play more. He needs to learn how to read the Offense & cover.
October 31st, 2009 at 1:36 pm
hows it going o….been a long time
October 31st, 2009 at 1:36 pm
Why is watkins still playing in this team?
October 31st, 2009 at 1:41 pm
O you going to the game tomarrow…..or are you still to cheep to spend the $
October 31st, 2009 at 1:43 pm
You can draft all those great positions this team would still be horrible why? The coach would be hogtide by the owner. Mr. Davis, rid it out into the sunset, but your days of relevance are over. The raiders = laughingstock in all of sports.
The Fans deserve a better product…
October 31st, 2009 at 1:45 pm
How ridiculous is it to draft a player based on his 40 time? Who thinks of this stuff? That whole concept is isanity, and never works.
October 31st, 2009 at 1:47 pm
stupidest team in america…. Your Oakland Raiders….
October 31st, 2009 at 1:47 pm
In all actuality it should be stupidest organization in america….
October 31st, 2009 at 1:48 pm
R8,
Dude, you know me. I’m very cheap, and I have school.
How is your daughter, and your family?
October 31st, 2009 at 1:50 pm
Mr. Davis, trask, herrera, taylor, and whoever else is in the front office need to retire from the game.
Go take up golf, leave football to those that are capable of running an NFL franchise.
October 31st, 2009 at 1:56 pm
Raider O Says:
October 31st, 2009 at 1:34 pm
408,
They use him at Goal line situations most of the time, so he needs to play more. He needs to learn how to read the Offense & cover.
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Dude, stop being so optimistic, Al doesn’t know how to track a true SS, it’s called Strong Safety not track safety, TS is Oakglenn in Castro lol. MM impressed Al in his speed as SS I think he ran a 4.4 plus his YouTube kimbo style. I think he is a waste of pick period. That doesn’t mean he might not be decent but that’s not today not next year neither. A second rounder needs to be ready right away isn’t Loadholt starting for the Vikings?
October 31st, 2009 at 1:57 pm
all are doing very well… to bad i cant say the same thing for or football team…
October 31st, 2009 at 1:58 pm
R8,
Where have you been? Hope all is well.
How is the dog doing? Still jumping in the pool at night?
I started school. The family is good. We are taking the little one T&T tonight.
October 31st, 2009 at 2:00 pm
LMAO @ Track Safety!!
October 31st, 2009 at 2:06 pm
I just want to see what Mitchell can do. He may be able to start now.
Start him at FS, and let’s see what he can do. Huff is playing well, so we can use him as our 3rd S.
October 31st, 2009 at 2:11 pm
We need a hard Hitter on the team, and Mitchell proved be can hit in camp before he got injured. Also don’t forget about the Great Youtube video that got him drafted in the 2nd. Best marketing since Got Milk!! lol
We need someone to hit, it’s football! Branch loves contact but he is 204. Mitchell is 220.
October 31st, 2009 at 2:13 pm
R8,
This team is very young, but it lacks Coaching, Oline, DTs, and a true nasty & physical LB.
October 31st, 2009 at 2:14 pm
If Mitchell doesn’t play well at S, then put him on the Alston program. Have him add 15- 20 pounds and let him play LB!
October 31st, 2009 at 2:56 pm
O,
Rob Ryan doesn’t work anymore. We dont draft players then run science experiments with them at different positions. Obviously we didnt have a need for a S but AL ignored OL and D-line and snatched him up anyway.
October 31st, 2009 at 3:15 pm
I see that 1st round picks tend to be crap shots. Any team would’ve loved to draft McFadden in the 1st round. I mean Jerry Jones was salivating over DMC and had to settle for his back up. The team environment has to play some role in the development of a young player.
October 31st, 2009 at 5:24 pm
Start “Missile Mike” Mitchell at QB in a Wildcat. He might leave the ball on the ground but whoever he collides with will pay the price of the contact!!!!
WhyTF not?
Kijana McFade ain’t gonna tote the rock this year. MBush doesn’t work it and Effing Fargas is the pile of dust at the end of the run. O-line is outta whack. JRuss has issues.
Let Mikey try it and see if he likes it.
grasping at straws is a way of life sometimes.
October 31st, 2009 at 5:38 pm
Which Raiders squad is going to show up this weekend? Inquiring minds would like know.
October 31st, 2009 at 5:56 pm
Beating the Chargers seems unlikely, given on response of the oddsmakers who have made the some 16-point favorites last time I looked (they’re pretty good at their job)
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True, BUT…read a story last week about how Ods makers are losing their azzes because of all the massive blow outs, so maybe they DON’T know their jobs as well as they thought!
October 31st, 2009 at 6:17 pm
Despite multiple top 10 draft picks over the last the last several years the Raiders fail to have a player in the Top 10 according to Jersey sales.
None of these high profile picks have become superstars.
5 QBs in the top 10. None of them named Russell.
October 31st, 2009 at 7:31 pm
Until Al Davis starts drafting linemen in the first round, we will continue to suck. I dare you to name one bad team that has a good offensive line.
October 31st, 2009 at 9:21 pm
Kirk Says:
October 31st, 2009 at 7:31 pm
Until Al Davis starts drafting linemen in the first round, we will continue to suck. I dare you to name one bad team that has a good offensive line
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The Jets, the Bills the Eagles all have had good lines recetnly and under performed mostly, like us, have suffered injuries.
Henderson, Morris, Satelel, Carlisle, Barnes / Green
I understand what you mean about getting some line guys, but we haven’t really seen much of Oaklands starters this year…
October 31st, 2009 at 10:02 pm
Kirk, name a better LT than Mario H. this year. There aren’t many OLG better than Gallery. After one bad play Barnes played well. Gotta get guy’s healthy.
IMO I’ve seen every senior QB this year and maybe if I saw Russell in college with them all I can think of one that I would draft ahead of Russell…….maybe Bradford. the best QB’s in college are two freshman Barkley and Luck for Stanford. Russell was easily as good if not better than the rest at LSU.
We play the SD Chargers and they once had a young QB they drafted high in the 2nd rnd he would have gone muc higher but he was only 6 ft. tall. Anyway he was highly touted but struggled mightily his 1st two seasons and the coaching staff grew restless and traded for another QB named Phillip Rivers and discarded this young QB eventhough he kept Rivers on the bench for two years. Well they found a way to get rid of this young QB because they were paying his understudy too much money. So this young up and coming QB left discouraged and went to a team that had only made the playoffs one time in their history. He came there and was greeted by a young offensive wiz named Sean Peyton who further refined his skills and put the right tools around him. He is now one of the most prolific QB’s in this leagues history.
His name Drew Breees, his story is somewhat similar to a lot of QB’s who took time to develope. Steve Young, Jim Plunkett, Eli Manning and a whole host of others who had the word BUST attached to their names until they finally put it together. Now they are potential HOF’s. In many cases it just takes that kid time to realize exactly what it takes to be great.
I FIRMLY believe that Russell’s name will be added to that list. Yes he has frustrated me with his immaturity but it’s not like I didn’t expect it because I did. But I see a tremendous talent who just hasn’t put it together yet. But all the signs are there that he will be a great one and wil lead tis team to Championships.
Call me crazy if you want, but I see it and it’s just a matter of time………..period
October 31st, 2009 at 10:22 pm
The guy who runs this blog tried hard to convince every reader that Al Davis was forcing an underachieving LT on Kiffin and Mario Henderson would never be a player unstill Kiffin left and Mario has shot straight to the top of the class. He IMO is in a class with the young great LT’s in this league.
Tvyon Branch looks like he could be the next great SS to play for the Oakland Raiders. Michael Huff is in the process of becoming everything the Raiders could want in a FS. Mike Mitchell is a very fortuitous luxury we have. Same as Stanford Routt at cover corner. All this defense lacks is a dominant MLB who both commands and demands greatness from this defense.
Losing Rickey Brown has hurt us badly at SLB we just do not have the depth. If you go back to that play when he got hurt this defense has been very inconsistent since that play.
I love DMC as a talent but we just need the coach to realize who and what he is. As I said even the dumbells in here will understand why Fargas is important to this team before the season is over. Those same people will see why Chaz is easily as important to JaMarcus Russell’s confidence when he returns.
October 31st, 2009 at 10:26 pm
Has anyone seen hyde or hair of NoMoreFargas since Fargas’s return?
Where my young blood Brien? who cursed me because I supported Fargas. Just wait until Russell starts to play well on a consistent basis you’ll see less and less of a lot more of the braggards.
Brien, the Preist has love for ya’ young blood. No one reminds me more of me when I was in my youth than you.
October 31st, 2009 at 10:58 pm
Sorry, guys, we need to draft some talented linemen. Both of our lines suck.
October 31st, 2009 at 10:59 pm
Priest,
How are the youth performing in your opinion??
October 31st, 2009 at 11:01 pm
Always read whats written even gave Fargas his props for Philly game , life long Raider fan and never root against a Raider doing well, just hoped Bush and Dmac could outplay hardworking less talented back I was wrong. And the effort vs the Jets game killed me that they would go right back to playing awful.
October 31st, 2009 at 11:13 pm
CHARGERS 52-3
October 31st, 2009 at 11:14 pm
Plus whats the point of knocking one of the few guys who tries.
October 31st, 2009 at 11:42 pm
NMF, my hat is off to you my friend. You could not have been more honorable. You’re a man’s man.
October 31st, 2009 at 11:54 pm
The young players are the reason for what we’re seeing on a weeek in week out basis. This period that we’re going through right now is extremely difficult. But this is a part of the process of becoming what we want this team to be. Russell has taken longer than anyone would have wanted to start to see the light but better late than never. Now it’s just his consistenet application to detail. He must spend more time in film study and in intense conference with Hackett to get better. There is no better QB coach in this league.
Russell’s timming and confidence was devastated when Chaz went down and the young guy’s just haven’t given him consistent production. You can see he doesn’t trust them. Now when all these mitigating factors start to evaporate you will see an offense capable of exploding at any moment instead of imploding.
On Wednesday Russell took his first major step forward when he acquiessed and showed up at the office for film study at 6:30am. That must become the norm for his maturity to eventually manifest itself. His talks with Mr Davis as well as others who want to see him succeed are starting to sink in. So we’ll see…
But to answer your question youth is killing this team and a lack of confidence that they can determine who wins is crippling them.
November 1st, 2009 at 12:05 am
Until a REAL leader steps up, nobody will follow. Seymore & Asomugha can lead the defense but there is no one for the offense. It should be the QB but that’s not happening anytime soon.
November 1st, 2009 at 12:18 am
JB, the kid had back to back decent games until his meltdown vs the Jets. Let’s see what happens tomorrow.
I’ve said many times that by midseason the league woud see what the Raiders have at QB and I stand by that eventhough everything is crumbling around me. I’ve watched this kid for 6 years and I know what type of player he is and he hasn’t shown what he’s capable oof yet, but he will. Wednesday restored my confidence in that opinion. It may be a few weeks later than what I projected but it’s coming.
November 1st, 2009 at 12:40 am
Good for you BHP. Keepin’ the faith. I too have believed that the kid could be the greatest Raider QB ever. Thus far he has shown me NOTHING. NOT A THING to back my belief. A man’s gotta be hungry to do it. All I’ve seen are shrugs of “Whatever”.
Anyway, hope the kid pulls through and excels. And sure wish you had been listened to about CJ rather than DMc.
November 1st, 2009 at 12:49 am
Priesttj
I FIRMLY believe that Russell’s name will be added to that list. Yes he has frustrated me with his immaturity but it’s not like I didn’t expect it because I did. But I see a tremendous talent who just hasn’t put it together yet. But all the signs are there that he will be a great one and wil lead tis team to Championships.
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Either u r on crack or u r Al Davis n if u r u should hire a GM n top notch coach Al n yes I wouldn’t call u Mr Davis cause u deserve no respect from us da true Raider nation fans. With Al interferance we will never win u moron don’t care who we got, this 2009 not 1970.
November 1st, 2009 at 12:50 am
M Lonetree, you have no idea how hard I tried in fact i ruffled some feathers over CJ. But it is what it is. DMC is not a lost cause he is just being miscast. If they continue to run him inside he will have a short career. he is just too high cut and you must have extreme cutting ability to last like that. Ala OJ Simpson and he is just too straight linish.
Russell biggest problems are he has gotten by on physical tools so long he never had to put in the amount of work that it takes at this level. And now he’s starting to understand what it takes. He will never be a Drew Brees type. But he can be an Elway type or Terry Bradshaw. Before the years is out you’ll see what I mean. But the young WR’s need to bail him out sometimes and they’re just not up to the task right now. There are tons of TD’s that happen in this league where the reciever just makes a play.
Case in point the final TD Fav-Rey threw vs the 49ers the WR made the play. He never gets that from our guy’s NEVER.
Adios!!
November 1st, 2009 at 2:24 am
Darren McFadden is a bust Raider Fans! Simply because, well,…he cant run the football down the field.
November 1st, 2009 at 4:07 am
Good Morning NATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 1st, 2009 at 4:09 am
4eva….
Damn it !!! It’s 4 in the am !! Go back to bed !!
November 1st, 2009 at 4:11 am
It’s 3am. Fall backward. Jerry’s time stamp should adjust to it by some time in February.
November 1st, 2009 at 4:13 am
Hello Diehards. May Jeezus have mercy on us!
November 1st, 2009 at 4:14 am
Today is the day of REDEMPTION!!!
The dis-chargers stole 1 from us in Oakland…we was robbed.
Our slide ends 2day.They know they can beat those powder blue guys.
The Jets disaster was a slap in the face 2 every fan.
Cable needs 2 call his best game…let our running game loose…
We are due and we are owed
GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 1st, 2009 at 4:17 am
This could be 13 in a row for San Diego.Let’s hope it’s unlucky for them.
November 1st, 2009 at 4:23 am
3am!!??
Just getting in or just getting up ?
November 1st, 2009 at 4:36 am
Got an e-mail yesterday from the NFL asking me to vote for the Pro-bowl.Guess Christmas isn’t the only thing that seems to get earlier every year.
November 1st, 2009 at 4:38 am
Neilb…just getting up
November 1st, 2009 at 4:43 am
4eva…
Get yourself back to bed for a few more hours….it’s way to early!!
November 1st, 2009 at 4:44 am
Neilb…I can sleep when I’m dead.Wont get 2 sleep then either…my docket is full in the after-life…I can hardly wait!!!
November 1st, 2009 at 4:45 am
KK…I dont think we need Jesus 2day,but I sure wouldnt deny HIS help!!!
November 1st, 2009 at 4:45 am
4eva…
I work shifts so I know what you mean.
November 1st, 2009 at 4:48 am
Neilb…once I’m up thats it.I never could go back 2 sleep
November 1st, 2009 at 4:53 am
you at work now Neilb???
November 1st, 2009 at 5:01 am
4eva…
No,I’m at home.Would have been going to work tonight but I took a day off to watch the football.
November 1st, 2009 at 5:07 am
I’m going to have to love you and leave you….off to watch the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix.Have a great Sunday everyone.
….back later.
November 1st, 2009 at 5:21 am
have fun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 1st, 2009 at 5:48 am
this just in. Jamarcus Russell sucks. do not put hard earned money on the Raiders.
November 1st, 2009 at 6:44 am
hmm lets see what happens Today…”ON any given Sunday” GO RAIDERS!!GOOD MORNING RAIDER NATION!!
November 1st, 2009 at 7:14 am
When Gilbride becomes the HC maybe he can bring some of the fire they play with in New York
November 1st, 2009 at 7:21 am
Gilbride!!
Gilbride!!
Gilbride!!
Fire Cable!!
November 1st, 2009 at 8:06 am
It’s too early to call Mario a great LT, but he is still young (3rd year) and he is playing very well now.1
Mario, Bush, Branch, Murphy, Chaz, and Scott were all great picks by Al. Except Mario they were picked in the 4th & later rounds. Mario was a 3rd RD pick.
I like the young talent we have, and we can build a great team with that talent. We need Nasty & physical DTs & LBs, And OL.
November 1st, 2009 at 8:10 am
If we draft a player who is less than 235 pounds next year, I will be angry!
November 1st, 2009 at 8:16 am
Anyone watch Outside the Lines? Cable is a dirt bag. It is one thing to beat up Al Davis’ snitch. But, hitting wives and girlfriends is unacceptable. Cable should be fired Monday. Chargers 71, Raiders 0.
November 1st, 2009 at 8:23 am
Here is the link: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4613549
November 1st, 2009 at 8:25 am
What physical tools are you talking about priest ?
-Being fat
-Being stupid
-Lazy
-Throwing a horrible deep ball?
-Throwing a horrible short pass with no touch?
Where are these fantastic physical tools? You’re a tool priest you are wrong 99% of the time when you open up your piehole…period
priesttj Says:
November 1st, 2009 at 12:50 am
Russell biggest problems are he has gotten by on physical tools so long he never had to put in the amount of work that it takes at this level. And now he’s starting to understand what it takes. He will never be a Drew Brees type. But he can be an Elway type or Terry Bradshaw. Before the years is out you’ll see what I mean. But the young WR’s need to bail him out sometimes and they’re just not up to the task right now. There are tons of TD’s that happen in this league where the reciever just makes a play.
November 1st, 2009 at 8:32 am
GOOOOOOOO RAIDERS !!!!!!!!!!!
I HATE THE CHARGERS !!!!!!!!
ANY GIVEN SUNDAY.
November 1st, 2009 at 8:34 am
If this game is over by half time I think Cable gets the axe Monday.
No pressure coach just go coach your game afterall Oakglen said your trajectory is looking real good!!!
November 1st, 2009 at 8:34 am
Any given Sunday the Raiders will surprise us all by somehow performing worse than they did before.
November 1st, 2009 at 8:38 am
Yo have to be out your skull to jump on a blog at 1250 am and declare JaMarshmallow the next Elway or Bradshaw and follow that up with “before the year is out you’ll see what I mean”
What a FK’n meatball!
November 1st, 2009 at 8:41 am
Russel is immature and fat, Cable is a wife-beater and fat, Al Davis is old and demented…any given sunday!
November 1st, 2009 at 8:42 am
Tom CAble is an everyday ladies man! He’s got jilted lovers showing up at his house at 5am…..3 times married.
This guy must be on the brink of a complete explosion!!
November 1st, 2009 at 8:43 am
So its true OakGlenda is Cables wife !
:O
“I have known Tom Cable for more than 20 years, including 17 years of marriage,” Glenda Cable said in the statement”
November 1st, 2009 at 8:50 am
Jerry’s blog has died.
Wheres a place to go that isnt filled with jahambone sized avatars of boots like twinkletoes with hundreds of one line responses, most of which are RAIDERS!
or JR SUCKS!
Its all your fault jerry.
We told you to fix the blog but you were too busy hobnobbing with Ronald Mcdonald
November 1st, 2009 at 8:52 am
Mista
She recanted what she said at the divorce by saying Cable never touched her to BSPN
November 1st, 2009 at 8:57 am
Mista
Ignore that last one. Its early and I thought you were asking why she said two different things.
November 1st, 2009 at 9:03 am
I have been watching (betting) on this Georgia Tech team lately, and they are fun to watch.
IF you haven’t seem them, they run the triple option, with a bruising NFL style FB, a 1st or 2nd rounder at RB (Dwyer) , and a freak of an athlete at QB. They throw 10 passes a game, and score 40+ every night.
Evertime I watch them, I wonder how something like that can work, almost like the new “Wildcat” for the NFL.
November 1st, 2009 at 9:06 am
Ok Plunk go getcha some java and come back sober
November 1st, 2009 at 9:09 am
Did anyone see the NFL Networks segment on the Raiders this morning?
Mariucci, Faulk, Sapp, and Irvin all weighed in.
Mista, you wouldn’t have liked what they had to say, lol!
Looks like you might need 4 more sweaters for those guys.
November 1st, 2009 at 9:09 am
Cable should get 2 months of community service for his abuse against women. After Hanson is named interim coach Tom should have to sweep the Coliseum each and every Sunday after the game.
November 1st, 2009 at 9:12 am
Just a reminder that there are 3 sides to every story!
It is most unfortunate that ESPN has given Miss Lutz this forum to revisit this incident when I did nothing wrong and . . . ESPN further chose not to provide me with an appropriate opportunity to respond.”
The allegation in the last sentence is significant. If true, ESPN failed to follow one of the primary principles of investigative journalism — giving the subject of damaging allegations a chance to tell his side of the story.
The alleged failure of ESPN to give Cable an appropriate chance to respond becomes even more curious in light of the specific history between the Raiders and ESPN. Last year, Chris Mortensen admitted that he failed to seek a comment from the Raiders regarding a story relating to the potential sale of controlling interest in the team.
November 1st, 2009 at 9:13 am
“We are on the brink of something special”
-Tom Cable
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Oakglenn Says:
June 8th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
Anyone with half a brain can see that Jamarcus Russell is a bonafide franchise Q.
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# priesttj Says:
June 10th, 2009 at 12:40 am
Nnamdi21, that’s my premise, we are going into the year for the first time in 4 years with a confident offense. As much flack as Russell get he was playing good football late last year. The WR’s wereplaying good football. The running game was showing the all important dpth we knew they had.
There just is no way we struglle as bad as we did last year.
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LMAO
The end
November 1st, 2009 at 9:14 am
Jhill I’m watching NFLN right now for the last 30 mins actually and nothing on Oakland yet.
November 1st, 2009 at 9:18 am
Jhill, although Im sure you would like to hand out sweaters to any joe off the street those 4 guys on NFLN are not the 3 stooges in this blog. Thats you, OakGlenda, and Priest.
Therefore, no additional sweaters will be provided to folks that dont attend Jerrys broken down ghetto blog. Furthermore, those 4 guys on NFLN get paid for their opinion unlike you and your chipmunks OakGlenda & Priest!
sorry man
November 1st, 2009 at 9:19 am
WAKE UP JERRY !!!!!
Raiders coach Tom Cable has issued a statement in response to ESPN’s Outside The Lines report regarding allegations that Cable had committed violence against two former wives and a former girlfriend.
“On only one occasion in my life have I ever touched a woman inappropriately,” Cable said in a statement read on the air by ESPN SportsCenter anchor Bob Ley. “More than 20 years ago, during my first marriage, I became aware that my wife, Sandy, has committed adultery. I became very angry and slapped her with an open hand. What I did was wrong, and I have regretted and felt sorrow about that moment ever since. . . .
“The incident involving Ms. Lutz in which she came to my home uninvited was fully investigated by the Alameda police department and I cooperated fully with that investigation. I never battered her in any way. The police concluded correctly that I had done nothing wrong and that was the end of the matter. It is most unfortunate that ESPN has given Miss Lutz this forum to revisit this incident when I did nothing wrong and . . . ESPN further chose not to provide me with an appropriate opportunity to respond.”
The allegation in the last sentence is significant. If true, ESPN failed to follow one of the primary principles of investigative journalism — giving the subject of damaging allegations a chance to tell his side of the story.
The alleged failure of ESPN to give Cable an appropriate chance to respond becomes even more curious in light of the specific history between the Raiders and ESPN. Last year, Chris Mortensen admitted that he failed to seek a comment from the Raiders regarding a story relating to the potential sale of controlling interest in the team.
“The Raiders have lost the privilege with me of running stories past them for comment,” Mort said at the time. “This stems from their history of denials to most stories I have reported — as well as others in the media — when those stories have eventually proven to be true.” Mortensen later admitted that he was wrong, and he apologized to the Raiders.
Meanwhile, Mort now reports that the league will soon issue a statement soon regarding the situation. In the statement, the league will commit to reviewing the allegations to determine whether Cable has committed any violations of the Personal Conduct Policy.
As Mort points out, Goodell still hasn’t spoken to Cable regarding the allegations made by Raiders defensive assistant Randy Hanson. Mort assumes that Goodell hasn’t spoken to Cable because he has been cleared by authorities of any criminal responsibility.
Still, and as we’ve pointed out a few times, the fact that Cable won’t face criminal punishment doesn’t mean he didn’t do something to result in the fracturing of Hanson’s jaw, and we continued to be astounded by the fact that the league has, by all appearances, failed to conduct its own thorough, in-person investigation of the situation.
November 1st, 2009 at 9:20 am
LOL Mista,
Late night?
Or did you forget to set your clock back?
The Raider segment was on in the 6-7 hour and it was called “will Jamarcus Russell succeed”, or something like that. They might have it on NFL.com by now if you want to check it out.
November 1st, 2009 at 9:20 am
Its all about the he said she said bullsh!t
sounds like the Enquirer is hard at work.
November 1st, 2009 at 9:26 am
I bet Tom (pimp hand is strong) Cable has been eyeballing our Raiderettes!!
Fall back playa!!!
November 1st, 2009 at 9:27 am
No I didnt forget anything my clocks get adjusted automatically.
November 1st, 2009 at 9:31 am
OK Mista,
So the fact that those 4 guys who are getting paid for their opinion said the EXACT same thing I’ve been saying since day 1 tells you what?
And how the heck do you put me in the same boat with Priest? That guy is BY FAR the Raiders most avid fan. Nothing is EVER wrong with this team, let him tell it.
And Oakglenn? Another avid fan right behind priest.
Other than the fact that they can run circles around you talking FOOTBALL, I’m not quiet sure what the 3 of us have in common, lol!
November 1st, 2009 at 11:06 am
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