Final: Chargers 24, Raiders 16
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Sunday, November 1st, 2009 at 5:08 pm in Oakland Raiders.
Notes and observations from the fourth quarter of the Raiders game Sunday against the Chargers in San Diego:
– Down by eight with 4:36 left, Russell can make a statement about his development on this drive. Raiders are at their own 26.
Russell completes a 15-yard pass to Zach Miller, Oakland gets as far as Oakland 46, must call time out on fourth-and-7, hits Miller again for a first down.
Raiders self-destruct. Shaun Phillips gets sack, Russell fumble. Officials’ review? Was his arm coming forward? Nope.
Louis Murphy-DHB play Two Stooges on pass pattern, colliding as Merrriman gets second sack. Trick play, JLH hook-lateral to DHB fails. Higgins bats ball back, incomplete. Tried to touch pass rather than catch and lateral.
Raiders will have to be content to cover.
That’s 13 in a row over the Raiders, who are 2-6 at the bye. Some players (Chaz Schilens, Robert Gallery, Darren McFadden, Cornell Green) could return on Nov. 15 when they host Kansas City.
As for head coach Tom Cable, his status will be heavily speculated upon following latest ESPN report documenting a “history of violence toward women.”
– Raiders defense allows Chargers to drive downfield after two superb possessions, but stiffens with Michael Huff breaking up a third-and-goal pass from Rivers to Jackson in the end zone. Nate Kaeding converts the field goal attempt from 23 yards.
Chargers countered Raiders field goal with field goal of their own, and took 7:L56 off the clock in the process.
Raiders have 4:43 left and trail 24-16.
– Third-and-8 penalty by Louis Murphy for false start is costly. On third-and-13 from the 21, Russell pass to Fargas two yards shy.
Janikowski converts third field goal of the day, this one from 28 yards. Raiders within 21-16.
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November 1st, 2009 at 5:10 pm
Fire Cable!!
November 1st, 2009 at 5:10 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 1st, 2009 at 5:07 pm
Norv Turner’s getting all of the female trainers on the SD sideline into the locker room before Cable approaches.
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ROFLMAO – Very timely observation.
November 1st, 2009 at 5:10 pm
NO one slam the Raiders today. Although I did a good job of it in the 1st QTR.
Don’t try and dissect the game, the players, the decision making, the playmaking or lack thereof or the coaching.
This is the BEST you can expect on the “Al Davis Show”
Coming up next: An interview with:
JaDarius McFadden-Huff
November 1st, 2009 at 5:11 pm
This team is as bad as the 06 team!
November 1st, 2009 at 5:11 pm
DHB = a rich B!TCH……
November 1st, 2009 at 5:11 pm
# Raider O Says:
November 1st, 2009 at 5:10 pm
Fire Cable!!
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Cut JaBustus too! Rhire Gruden, go get Andrew Walter back and let’s see what can be done. AW never got a legitimate shot here. He’s got a strong ACCURATE arm and AD likes him.
Let’s also take out some other schit too – Javon Walker, Green, Satelle, Pears, Eugene, Huff, Routt, Warren, etc., etc., etc.
November 1st, 2009 at 5:11 pm
Harvin > DHB
Crabtree > DHB
NICKS > DHB
Murhpy > DHB
THEC07 > DHB
November 1st, 2009 at 5:12 pm
F@CK CABLE
F@CK JRUSS
F@CK DHB
F@CK Mr Davis
November 1st, 2009 at 5:13 pm
Real MR
Nice to watch a real looking offense isn’t it.
November 1st, 2009 at 5:13 pm
Z Miller
Seymour
Ellis
Fargas
Murphy
JANO
Lech
F@CK the rest….
DHB sucks….. Crabtree way better… Thats the true comparision, not this postion comparision make me feel better because Mr davis is a ego maniac sucks…
November 1st, 2009 at 5:14 pm
DHB was wide open on that last play crossing the middle.of course he sucks because he didn’t throw the ball to himself.
November 1st, 2009 at 5:14 pm
I wish Seymour would kick JRUSS A@@…. I know he wants to….Bligbust…
November 1st, 2009 at 5:14 pm
I’m just glad they showed the replay of Murphy and JLH falling all over each other, lol!
DHB getting bailed out of a drop by a Barnes false start pretty much sums it up.
If not that then Carlisle on his back while his man is stripping the ball from the QB (Exact same BS that Barnes gave up to Pace last week!) should say it.
All of this on ONE drive???? To try and tie the game?
Like the announcers were saying. The WRs simply can’t get open.
3rd and 10 from their own 8 yd line would have been a HUGE stop by the way. Nice Buffalo reference SnB.
November 1st, 2009 at 5:15 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
November 1st, 2009 at 5:09 pm
NO one slam the Raiders today.
………….
Oh, please. SD isn’t even that good. A better coached Raider team wins by 3 scores today. I’m not buying into a “moral victory” today just because we came within one score of a mediocre division rival.
November 1st, 2009 at 5:15 pm
Not Bad.
I’m ok with today’s game. We lost but most of us expected a loss anyways. This is the way Tom should have played all year. Be conservative and let the D win some games for us. We are still lacking playmaking abilities on spec team and still miss our offensive starters. SD has much better talent than us so they should win.
We came close and the 2nd half of the season is key to whether we are going to make progress or not. Most of us would be happy with 8-8 or 7-9 before the season so no biggie.
November 1st, 2009 at 5:16 pm
Per the true comparison crabtree has outperformed DHB…
November 1st, 2009 at 5:16 pm
Lefty,
Your a fool. They were running a hook and ladder and DHB didnt come open till the DB went to JLH.
November 1st, 2009 at 5:16 pm
lefty12 Says:
November 1st, 2009 at 5:14 pm
DHB was wide open on that last play crossing the middle.of course he sucks because he didn’t throw the ball to himself.
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He isn’t a starting caliber wide receiver. In fact Lefty, outside of maybe Nnamdi and Zach Miller…there aren’t any starting caliber players on the entire roster.
so stop beating yourself up trying to dissect the mess we see on the Al Davis Show.
Just be happy they competed for 4QTRs
I am treating this like a tie. Its not a win…but its not a loss either for these loveable losers!
November 1st, 2009 at 5:17 pm
It was a good effort. Hope Cable learned something here. Stick with the run. Limit the mistakes the QB and/or WRs can make. ZM is the only one ready in the passing game to make a statement.
If they didn’t show JLH and Murphy colliding into each other on that play I bet you all would’ve been killing JR in here for getting sacked.
Oh and btw…JRs INT …ZMiller was held on the play so he couldn’t get to the ball. I believe Murphy’s route was to block for Miller.
They had a shot in the end to win it. Russell made some great throws there – Murphy out of bounds, JLH touch and lateral and the ZM check down (I don’t know how he got this ball out under pressure).
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Memo to the DC: USE NNAM ON THEIR BEST WR!! Gesuz …how long will you sit there and let VJ victimize CJ?!? …CJ getting torched every week is a common occurrence. Put the game on him not being able to guard Jackson. Damn near every “must have” conversion or play down the field was VJ schooling CJ. DH redux – ya think!
November 1st, 2009 at 5:18 pm
I a out guys have fun, enjoy your week… Raiders suck and will continue to do so until Mr davis is retired..
November 1st, 2009 at 5:19 pm
Harvin>Favre
Craptree>2 qbs better than ours
Nicks>Manning
Murphy>twice as many drops as DHB
DHB>no QB,fans wrath due to fans preference in draft
November 1st, 2009 at 5:19 pm
On second thought got some interesting posters out of the wood works will wait around….
November 1st, 2009 at 5:19 pm
SnBoffensedfensespecialteams, you’re celebrating because we didn’t get blown out. If that’s not rock bottom, nothing is. SD’s not that good. Turner’s notorious for going soft when everything is going right, letting teams come back. If Shottenheimer is still their coach they win by 50 today.
November 1st, 2009 at 5:20 pm
Alisgod,
Howd that Jets game go for you? Notice you werent around much after that game. Shocker! Could have sworn some clown said the Raiders and Jets were bascically even across the board?? Hmm.. who was that?
7-9 0r 8-8?? Please. Keep on dreaming. Cant win NFL games with a high school quality offense.
November 1st, 2009 at 5:20 pm
I think this was a major step for Cable – hopefully, he see that the offense functions A LOT better running the ball and giving the QB check downs instead of forcing the issue downfield.
(JHill – I agree with everything you wrote but that pass hit DHBs feet …not sure if Russell was under pressure but its a safe assumption)
November 1st, 2009 at 5:20 pm
lefty12 Says:
November 1st, 2009 at 5:19 pm
Harvin>Favre
Craptree>2 qbs better than ours
Nicks>Manning
Murphy>twice as many drops as DHB
DHB>no QB,fans wrath due to fans preference in draft
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Wrong….. I wasnt on crabtress d!ck… I wanted Dline
Try again…
November 1st, 2009 at 5:20 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 1st, 2009 at 5:15 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
November 1st, 2009 at 5:09 pm
NO one slam the Raiders today.
………….
Oh, please. SD isn’t even that good. A better coached Raider team wins by 3 scores today. I’m not buying into a “moral victory” today just because we came within one score of a mediocre division rival.
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Then you can be upset.
I don’t expect this team to win a game ever again. So all I look for is that they don’t get embarrassed and end up front and center as the butt of jokes.
Unlike most of the people on this site…I have embraced what this team has become. I like following the Raiders so I won’t abandon them…but I won’t get myself worked up over a loss. They are garbage. As a team, players, coaches and the owner. What are you going to do?
If I am going to watch this mess..its better to set expectations really low and hope they meet them.
Today the Raiders did that for me.
Did you honestly think they were going to win today?
I find that hard to believe MR.
November 1st, 2009 at 5:21 pm
Damn right Shaugnessy was a beast out there today. And CJ was suckin’ azz as usual. If you ask me, he’s the main reason we lost the game. Or blame it on the DC not putting Nnam on VJ.
November 1st, 2009 at 5:21 pm
lefty12 Says:
November 1st, 2009 at 5:19 pm
Harvin>Favre
Craptree>2 qbs better than ours
Nicks>Manning
Murphy>twice as many drops as DHB
DHB>no QB,fans wrath due to fans preference in draft
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DHB is garbage…. Defend him all you like but he is garbage. cant catch was the word out of college…
How many drops does he have?
I am not going to apologize, or be an apologist to this garbage can.
November 1st, 2009 at 5:22 pm
jhill Says:
November 1st, 2009 at 5:14 pm
I’m just glad they showed the replay of Murphy and JLH falling all over each other, lol!
DHB getting bailed out of a drop by a Barnes false start pretty much sums it up.
If not that then Carlisle on his back while his man is stripping the ball from the QB (Exact same BS that Barnes gave up to Pace last week!) should say it.
All of this on ONE drive???? To try and tie the game?
Like the announcers were saying. The WRs simply can’t get open.
3rd and 10 from their own 8 yd line would have been a HUGE stop by the way. Nice Buffalo reference SnB.
November 1st, 2009 at 5:22 pm
Faverve!!!
November 1st, 2009 at 5:23 pm
THE NATION COLLECTIVE WAS RIGHT>>>>>>>>
November 1st, 2009 at 5:23 pm
Thec,didn’t say you wanted Craptree,just pointing out nobody wanted DHB so fans are totally against the guy.Murphy has at least twice as many drops as DHB,yet he is treated like royalty.we really don’t know about DHB because our QB is sooooooo bad-that is all i’m trying to point out.and besides,he has only played 8 games at a position it USUALLY takes a couple years to excel.
November 1st, 2009 at 5:23 pm
Terp,
Back on your excuse machine again I see. Best excuse maker in the biz.
November 1st, 2009 at 5:23 pm
Damn this site is so f’d up. My comments posting all over the damn place.
November 1st, 2009 at 5:24 pm
Todays effort by Fat Boy Russell was, sadly, as good as it can get for him.
November 1st, 2009 at 5:24 pm
I wonder if the “Big Dummy” is going to comment on this day’s fiasco?
If Cable had a pair he’d tell JR you don’t play again until you are 250# or less. He’s too heavy with bad footwork. A deadly combination – a sitting duck type target.
November 1st, 2009 at 5:24 pm
SNBoffense, defense, special teams,…..
Will you stop with the dramatic guilt tripping? You want us to join you in a celebration that we didn’t get blown out! We didn’t win. We really didn’t even get within one score considering we needed a two point conversion. We showed some fire in the end, but SD still controlled this football game. I don’t see where there’s anything to celebrate. But go ahead, dude. Moral victory! Break out the champagne. We came within 8!!!
November 1st, 2009 at 5:25 pm
Game Ball to Shaughnessy … Heck of a game Rook!
November 1st, 2009 at 5:25 pm
Most of you guys that defend this team, either work for the raidfers, or they feed you somehow. No one can defend this garbage….
Bye Mr Davis give it up……
THE NATION COLLECTIVE WAS RIGHT>>>>>>>
November 1st, 2009 at 5:25 pm
Norv Turner’s most notable observation – I’m glad I’m not in Oakland any longer.
November 1st, 2009 at 5:26 pm
Stop arguing. What’s to argue about.
Until the Owner relinquishes control…this is the best you can expect.
If this performance today upsets you…then you might as well switch teams and follow another team because it ain’t getting better here ever again.
It is what it is.
Today was a good effort for the Raiders. They didn’t get blown out. It looked like that in the 1st QTR but they fought back in their special way.
THat’s all I ask for these days is effort.
And they gave it. Sure the execution is lousy…but that’s because the talent and coaching is lousy,
they did the best they could
November 1st, 2009 at 5:27 pm
Cable’s probably beating some hooker’s ass at his hotel room right now. Should I celebrate that, too?
November 1st, 2009 at 5:27 pm
Who is DHB schooling???
JRUSS is not a leader… A leader never comes into camp 50lbs out of shape….
Seymour should F@CK JRUSS up….
November 1st, 2009 at 5:28 pm
Dude,
I maned up and congratulated the haters on here after the game. Perhaps you can learn to do the same. You can go ahead and google that if you want.
No need to hang around here last week for me. It was the haters turn so you guys can have it for all you can eat! I was wrong to think the game would be close last week just like you were wrong to think we’d get blown out here today.
Now are you man enough to admit that?
November 1st, 2009 at 5:28 pm
I am out guys, I will say this a game ball to all you fans, and all you guys in the blog for sticking with this horrible organization…..
THE NATION COLLECTIVE WAS RIGHT>>>>>>>
November 1st, 2009 at 5:29 pm
Right on SnB — #48.
November 1st, 2009 at 5:29 pm
My nick for CJ going forward is “TOAST”. From now on he should be referred to as “TOAST”
TOAST cost us a lot today. Every week TOAST lives up to his moniker.
Almost every big play, every key down they looked for TOAST.
November 1st, 2009 at 5:29 pm
Now I have to agree with you Lefty on the DHB vs Murphy thing.
I just don’t understand how he gets a pass, yet DHB get killed. Murphy has made so many CRITICAL errors starting with the preseason game against NO. He just has NOT been the same guy.
I totally agree with you on that. Both of those guys really shouldn’t be being asked to do what they are doing. They are clearly being thrown into the fire with a QB who is clearly not a guy who you should match with 2 rookie WRs.
November 1st, 2009 at 5:30 pm
Terrapin,
That last ball hit DHB on the feet after it bounced off his hands, lol!
No worries b/c it wouldn’t have counted anyway with Barnes having the jitters.
November 1st, 2009 at 5:31 pm
Murphy was screwin’ up ….screws up damn near every week. He’ll always get a pass on this board. They’re young. They’ll learn though. So I don’t fret too much about it. Just to kill the QB because he’s playing with 2 rooks. Not 1 QB in the league is doing that (or would look good doing it).
After the bye I look forward to seeing Chaz.
November 1st, 2009 at 5:32 pm
watching Vincent Jackson getting open so much made me sick. why in the HELL was Nnamdi not being put on jackson? i mean C’MON!!!
November 1st, 2009 at 5:32 pm
Real MaddenRaider,
Then you can be upset and angry and put yourself in a bad mood.
I follow football and know what they are. They are no where close to being competitive. The owner’s philosophy prevents them from EVER being good.
So you look for the small victories…a converted 3rd down…a sack…a tough catch or good read from the QB.
But they will never win with Davis in command. That’s clear to me as a tall glass of mountain spring water.
So I am happy with what I saw today.
Better than the B.S we saw last week.
And yes MR, the Raiders have plunged to very low depths.
It is what it is
November 1st, 2009 at 5:34 pm
still waiting for chaz to play. starting to think we wont see him all year the way its going.
November 1st, 2009 at 5:36 pm
JHill,
The defensive philosophy is still way too rigid. Nnamdi got beat on that 3rd down…But the Chargers then methodically marched all the way down the field.
The defensive philosophy is entrenched. Marshall tried to modernize some of it..and maybe he did.
But this team will have a tough time winning with the draft/personnel philosophy of the owner
November 1st, 2009 at 5:36 pm
Murphy shows some flashes and is a hustle player but is realistically a No. 4 WR on almost every NFL team right now with potential as a developmental prospect. He fell down on JaMarcus’ interception. Failed to go after another ball aggressively enough on another pass that was almost picked. Failed to get a 2nd foot down on what would’ve been a really nice catch late in the game. He just isn’t ready to be a starting WR let alone a No. 1.
Decent effort by the Raiders today. At least they covered the spread which I was counting on. Whether they won or lost today they were realistically just playing out the string and trying to get better for next season. They did look better than they have in most weeks.
Props to Fargas who I’ve been critical of, but we still should’ve seen more Michael Bush in the 2nd half. He was also running the ball well and is a real threat when defenses get worn down and he’s one or two broken tackles from making huge runs.
Nice game by Shaughnessy. Kid really hustles and has both size and speed to be a fixture at DE in the future.
Refs were OK today but that did clearly look like a forward pass on the JaMarcus fumble on the last drive. That was an enormous play.
O-line was solid in run blocking but got wrecked pretty good in pass blocking. By the time JaMarcus stepped back in his drop and got set he had defenders collapsing the pocket around him on virtually every play.
Merriman is still garbage. Guy gets run over for a 5 yard gain and 1st down early in the game by Bush and gets up and celebrates like he just did something spectacular. I think the announcers are completely fooled by this guy because he celebrates so much they assume he must be doing something great. I know he had two sacks today — his first two of the season — but I was still unimpressed for a guy whose supposed to be a superstar. I’d want no part of going after him in free agency next year.
November 1st, 2009 at 5:37 pm
Dude,
I’m still waiting….
you’re gonna man up and admit you were wrong that we’d get blown out today?
Oh yeah, still think those Eagles sucks??? They only hung 40 on the Giants…unless you think the Giants sucks too….
November 1st, 2009 at 5:38 pm
I agree with you on CJ.
How disappointing with the way he played last year. Now we were playing a lot of cover 2 today like Lefty pointed out, but he is clearly struggling since the Denver game.
November 1st, 2009 at 5:38 pm
Murphy has more drops but look at the numbers 16- 232 DHB 4-64 thats just awful. Greg Papa can run circles around Priest or Silver and Smack when it comes to looking on the brightside listing its hilarious.
November 1st, 2009 at 5:39 pm
The GOOD NEWS view – We won’t have a loss to talk about next week. Maybe we can talk about a new HC. Only if we’re lucky.
November 1st, 2009 at 5:40 pm
raiderzride4free Says:
November 1st, 2009 at 5:34 pm
still waiting for chaz to play. starting to think we wont see him all year the way its going
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There was a reason he was made available in the 7th round.
November 1st, 2009 at 5:40 pm
There’s not much the defense can do with TOAST well getting TOASTED every week.
DH redux. The defense has the talent. But one man can always cost you a lot.
Give Routt a shot – only if he’s serious (i’m not really serious about that)
November 1st, 2009 at 5:41 pm
No fire in Jamarcus. Have you ever seen such a lathergic approach to a final drive. Wasting timeouts, going into huddles, false starts.
That last drive about summed it up the Jamarcus Russell era.
This team deserves better than this clown. He is not accurate or savy enough to be an NFL QB. The sooner the team realizes it the better.
Biggest holes on team, QB, interior O-line and 3rd DB. Improve those areas and this is an 8-8 team, easily.
November 1st, 2009 at 5:41 pm
THat’s all I ask for these days is effort.
And they gave it. Sure the execution is lousy…but that’s because the talent and coaching is lousy,
they did the best they could
So you look for the small victories…a converted 3rd down…a sack…a tough catch or good read from the QB.
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That is HILARIOUS, SnB!
LMFAO!
November 1st, 2009 at 5:42 pm
The think I was most impressed with today was us winning TOP in the 3rd qtr 11 min to 4 min.
How’s that SnB?
November 1st, 2009 at 5:44 pm
Like I said. Hopefully Cable learned a lesson today. No they didn’t win but the offense was much more functional sticking with the run and providing check downs to the QB and shortening the routes. They even had a shot to win. Now he just needs to find the balance.
November 1st, 2009 at 5:44 pm
Another loss lol so used to this garbage, it really is sad depressing yes but after 6 years of this crap doesn’t really bother me. Jawalrus Russell really needs to Lise weight, and he sure needs alot of Help, I did see a bit a spark in him, but he really has a longway to go, what I really don’t understand is why isn’t there a proven wide receiver there to help him? DHB is A lil B.tch I can’t believe he was chosen over maclin or cratbree, wow lost there’s no sign of HOPe
November 1st, 2009 at 5:45 pm
CJ wasn’t bad today. Lost on a jump ball on that first big gain. Some of Jackson’s catches came against Routt. D held them to 3 points in the second half. Chargers have a lot of weapons and a good QB and are going to make some plays. CJ is asked to do a lot in man coverage with Nnamdi on the other side. Had a pick and played a decent game.
CJ is not the problem. We ran the ball today but the offense is still probably one of the 2 or 3 worst in the NFL. That’s by far the biggest problem with this team.
November 1st, 2009 at 5:48 pm
your first pick overall – year three game 8: 109 yards
November 1st, 2009 at 5:49 pm
we better be careful, he might be wanting and extension
November 1st, 2009 at 5:50 pm
so micheal bush has really stepped up with d-mac out ….. not .. fargas is playing well , but bush is doin less than mcfadden was . get well soon d-mac so we can cross our fingers that one of our 3 headed monster(mmmm) can get some 20plus yard runs!!
nice game khalif !!
November 1st, 2009 at 5:51 pm
Chris, really dude. TOAST gets burned deep and I mean deep every damn week. Every week its 7pts deep on TOAST. And you say he’s not the problem? Maybe not “the” problem; but he’s definitely a big one on defense.
(the pass was actually intended for Miller who got held on the play so he couldn’t get into position, then Murphy fell in the area – pick easy)
I understand what you are saying about the offense and I see it too; but they at least were somewhat functional today.
Barnes stinks. He’s no better than Green from what I can tell (key penalties when it matters most?). They’ll likely be draftin a RT or some free agent. Green is not that good and Barnes isn’t much better.
November 1st, 2009 at 5:52 pm
JHill,
Wasn’t meant to be funny though. Its really how I feel about this team. That’s why I was upset after the Giants game. Because I felt that they quit that game.
Its a very very very poor team talent wise and the coaching is not even at a professional level. You can see it on the field. Look at these stats from the leaders:
Russell 14-22 109yds 0TD 1INT
Fargas 18 carries 59 yds 1TD
Receivers combined for 2 rec 16 yds
The defense gave up 350yds of offense and gave up 2 rushing TDs and another crippling long drive in the 4th QTR
The team isn’t talented. I don’t get mad about this stuff anymore. Maybe its apathy setting in…I just say its realism. All the bad drafts, free agent picks, terrible coaching and lazy athletes. And the Owner refuses to change the philosophy that got us here.
So its either quit the Raiders and follow the Saints, Eagles or Vikings…or just keep on with the Raiders and understand and respect EXACTLY who they are right now and for the foreseeable future!
November 1st, 2009 at 5:54 pm
Biggest holes on team, QB, interior O-line and 3rd DB. Improve those areas and this is an 8-8 team, easily.
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You don’t think the WR position is a hole on this team?
I think the fact that we are “kinda” celebrating the effort of a RB that had a 3.3 avg yard per carry is pretty sad.
We got the ball back with over 4 minutes to go on that final drive. The team was moving the ball and had crossed midfield when Carlisle got beat and his man caused the fumble. That was the first play after the 2 minute warning and we lost about 40 seconds on that play including 20 seconds of who knows WTF.
The play was to call a damn TO Cable! No way you can expect the QB to spike the ball and lose more yardage and a down. I highly doubt ANY part of the offense was ready for a 2nd and 28 in that situation. Should’ve called a TO.
November 1st, 2009 at 5:56 pm
Our secondary sucks! Period!
Nnamdi: can ONLY cover one side of field (he must have some type of brain damage) no matter if a good or garbage receiver is on that side.
Johnson: yeah guys good call on the breakfast bread.
Huff: day late minus one dollar.
Branch: he can cover a little but who claimed this guy was physical.
Routt: See Johnson & Huff.
November 1st, 2009 at 5:57 pm
RaiderRobG Says:
November 1st, 2009 at 6:00 pm
Wooooo!!!! FAVRAY threw 4 TDs!
Just think
I almost took Russell 
over Favre 
in my fantasy football league 
November 1st, 2009 at 5:58 pm
jhill Says:
November 1st, 2009 at 5:42 pm
The think I was most impressed with today was us winning TOP in the 3rd qtr 11 min to 4 min.
How’s that SnB?
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Its exactly the type of stuff to be happy about. The Raiders are a team on another planet.
In a lot of ways they really are the worst team in the NFL. While the Raiders run on the hamster wheel..those other teams are getting better. Hell, did you see the Titans beat the Jags. The Rams and Lions are building.
This Raider team ain’t building. Has never been building. They might try. But the Owner is incompetent.
With the 3rd pick in the 2010 NFL Draft: The Raiders select Taylor Mays, Safety, USC
LOL! Because I would throw something or curse out loud!
Damn!
November 1st, 2009 at 5:58 pm
Chris-that was Huff on the jump ball.
November 1st, 2009 at 6:00 pm
Wooooo!!!! FAVRAY threw 4 TDs!
Nice how Jerry said, “Russell can make a statement about his development on this drive.”
Fricken sad! You think Flacco or Ryan will be in need of such drives at that point in their careers to make a statement about their development? No they’re too busy winning games and becoming playoff QB’s, while JaFATcus is “only doing what he can do.”
Stop perpetuating this dysfunctional atmosphere. Tske a year off Raider fan. Enjoy some football somewhere else. Or continue to tune in or show up and remain a part of the problem.
Nice win Vikings.
November 1st, 2009 at 6:01 pm
Not to defend Russell but the play where Murphy got knocked into Higgins just pathetic.
November 1st, 2009 at 6:05 pm
I
hate to rub salt in the wounds 
But, I just saw Dokie 
Williams panhandling at the local Walmart 
November 1st, 2009 at 6:05 pm
The thing that gets me is why the WRs are the only ones who can’t catch a pass thrown by the QB.
Miller catches the ball.
Russell the Muscle catches the ball.
Fargas and Bush catch it.
Stewart catches the pelota, and even the rookie Meyers stepped in and got 2 catches.
The QB completed over 60% of his passes with ZERO contribution from the WRs.
How is that possible?
November 1st, 2009 at 6:06 pm
Michael Bush goes down as easily as McFadden. Cable’s crush on Fargas is the only legit move by the HC since the interim tag.
November 1st, 2009 at 6:06 pm
I bet if Harvin … Crabtree … Nicks or any other WR had JaMarcus as a QB their numbers would be crab too.
How many passes has JaMarcus completed to the WRs?
Oh I almost forgot … congrats to JaMarcus for passing for 1000 yds. Wow it only took 8 games.
November 1st, 2009 at 6:15 pm
raideralex99 Says:
November 1st, 2009 at 6:06 pm
I bet if Harvin … Crabtree … Nicks or any other WR had JaMarcus as a QB their numbers would be crab too.
How many passes has JaMarcus completed to the WRs?
Oh I almost forgot … congrats to JaMarcus for passing for 1000 yds. Wow it only took 8 games.
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I bet if Russell was on another team…his numbers would be decent to good
This franchise is badly broken. Anything that misdirects blame away from the incompetent owner is a waste of time
November 1st, 2009 at 6:18 pm
Good day folks.
There is a bye week. The Raiders have 2 weeks to prepare for the Chiefs. Hopefully they put forth a strong effort against the Chiefs.
Again, wins and losses are not what’s important. Just show the effort. Let’s see if any of these young players emerge as potential future stars…
Who will make way for the next great playah?
Taylor Mays…Dez Bryant…the RB from Cal….
Spend your time prepping the draft so that you can talk intelligently during the Raiders primetime season….the offseason!
November 1st, 2009 at 6:18 pm
Alisqueer,
1) When did I say SD would blow the Raiders out?
2) When did I say Philly “sux”?
When you answer both ?? I will continue to engage you in conversation.
November 1st, 2009 at 6:20 pm
504 Raider Says:
November 1st, 2009 at 6:06 pm
Michael Bush goes down as easily as McFadden. Cable’s crush on Fargas is the only legit move by the HC since the interim tag.
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Michael Bush plays on a dysfunctional franchise. Somewhere else the kid could thrive…maybe not. who knows..
Fargas = 18 carries 59 yds 1 TD
That’s the standard of excellence in Oakland!
Check a real running back like the kid in Tennesse or the numbers Moats put up in Houston.
This team is badly broken and it starts and ends with the Owner.
100 yds passing…LOL
November 1st, 2009 at 6:21 pm
This team is poorly coached. Holland runs down the sideline carring the ball in the wrong hand, so he can’t or doesn’t know to stiff arm the kicker.
November 1st, 2009 at 6:24 pm
jhill Says:
November 1st, 2009 at 6:05 pm
The thing that gets me is why the WRs are the only ones who can’t catch a pass thrown by the QB.
Miller catches the ball.
Russell the one-eyed Muscle catches the ball.
November 1st, 2009 at 6:33 pm
Mistabrown Says:
August 12th, 2009 at 1:28 am
Oakglen blah blah man crush obsess, JaBiscuitsandGravy, priestj blah blah obsess man crush, JaPotroast I think I am so clever JaGenius blah blah sukking oakglen off behind Chevron blah blah blah.
Oakglenda man crush obsess, sociopathic demented, JaMeatloaf is GRABAGE blah Oakglenn. Priestj tits blah blah JaFrenchToast. Oakglenn you blah blah Fargas sucks blah Tommy Kelly’s beard blah blah priestj on the radio is so cool blah blah man crush obsess, all day every day for years blah blah Oakglen not bad blah blitz JaPotpie blah oakglenn tit. Demented obsess man crush oakglenn for years tit blah Thomas Howard should play safety blah blah blitz dammit blah tit.
November 1st, 2009 at 6:37 pm
the wide receiver coach needs to be fired. how the heck do 2 wide receivers get knocked down by EACH OTHER? that is stupid.
November 1st, 2009 at 6:47 pm
The way I see it:
Lets go back to the last two games of the season. This is where we all got bamboozled.
We beat the Texans and destroy their playoff hope. Then we do the impossible and go to Tampa and destroy theirs. Or did we?
Yeah Bush had the big game but after further review, that defense quit. They all knew Monte Kiffin was leaving to join Lance so they didn’t really give their best effort because Monte most likely wasn’t giving his best effort coaching since Lance got the Tenn job.
Now we declare JaMarcus is ready to lead this team and Cable is our guy. Al Davis (hate to defend here,but) kinda knew it was kind of a fluke two wins as well so he set out to interview other candidates. I think one by one they all turned Al down and he was stuck with Cable after checking with people like Hanson and some of the players (likely O-linemen).
Here we are today.
We need a new Coach and it will not hurt JaMarcus development because he’s had no development to this point. A guy like Gruden can fix JaMarcus problems and motivate the rest of the team to play hard.
Cable owes Lance a six pack.
November 1st, 2009 at 6:52 pm
the Raiders went out and hired 2 of the best QB coaches in the league to help this guy and it has done no good.it is time to quit putting the blame on the coaches and put it where it belongs-on the player who doesn’t give a shyt.if he does care and this is what we are getting we are in even bigger trouble.
November 1st, 2009 at 6:54 pm
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November 1st, 2009 at 6:59 pm
the 2 WRS get pushed into each other(granted,that should never happen),and the pass nnear the end of the game hit DHB in his feet and wasn’t close to his hands.
November 1st, 2009 at 7:02 pm
great call Armond.he shows no leadership ability.
November 1st, 2009 at 7:11 pm
JHill,
That whole last drive was very rough. Jamarcus made a nice pass on the 4th down with 2 minutes to go. The only problem was that it took over 2 minutes and a TO, just to get the 20+ yards to cross midfield.
No zip, no energy, no fire. After Miller’s 4th down catch, nothing, guys just standing around. They did that all game, come out of a TO and false start. 1st down after a KO, have to use a TO. Snapping the ball with 2 seconds on the playclock, even after incompletions.
Lots of blame to pass around, but a leader would take charge. At this stage, I am willing to see if Bruce or
Frye could add any pep to this team. We have had a large enough sample size of Jamarcus and he stinks, as plain as day to see.
We can make all the other excuses (WR play, play-calling, bad O-line) and there is some truth to a lot of that stuff, but he is no good and installs zero confidence in his players, coaches and fan base.
November 1st, 2009 at 7:12 pm
Not even a post game wrap up for this mot mess Jerry ?
November 1st, 2009 at 7:13 pm
Bye week = JRuss is already on a flight out of time for some R&R. When he gets back he’ll be about 300lbs. and ready to nap thru those pesky film sessions and position meetings.
November 1st, 2009 at 7:13 pm
*hot
November 1st, 2009 at 7:13 pm
Dam, we almost whupped em, boys.
They carried the ball thirty times for 102 yards.
We held that running game in check. Its a good feeling from the past years when LT had that many yards in the first quarter of every game.
Theres always a bright spot when things look the darkest. Remember that in two years when you are standing in line for a bowl of goverment’s finest soylvent green stew.
Dont look for me in line. I will chew bark off trees like Euell Gibbons before I will submit.
Raiders 31 Squaws 17
Breakout game!
Best 8 game stretch ever coming up!
November 1st, 2009 at 7:19 pm
Oakglen, when you stop posting as BS Detector we will have a talk about Cables trajectory you are so high on, until then keep on rambling your sociopathic nonsense.
November 1st, 2009 at 7:25 pm
lefty i have to call i see. its bothered me for some time now and i wanted to wait to see if he showed something different before i said that. they are CLEARY playin at his tempo and its just too slow. it saps the energy right out of me just watching him now.
November 1st, 2009 at 7:26 pm
Armond so it only took you 5 weeks to see what myself and 100’s of others saw. Welcome aboard the reality train!
November 1st, 2009 at 7:28 pm
Jamarcus had a superb game, 14/22 for 109, 1 int, those are career numbers if your name is Juan Marcos…oh, and he fumbled once but we were lucky to get it back…Los Cargadores a los Malosos: ¿quien es tu papi?
November 1st, 2009 at 7:31 pm
Did ur post get deleted Armond?
November 1st, 2009 at 7:32 pm
Lefty,
Let me preface this by saying we pretty much agree on the QB play.
Now moving past that for a minute, don’t you find the QB coaching hires a bit odd? Hackett is a WCO guy and Tollner is a Vertical guy. It kinda reminds me of Shell having Slater the other guy coaching Gallery. I forget his name right now. But anyway, why 2 guys with different systems?
November 1st, 2009 at 7:33 pm
Armond,i totally agree.i don’t want him to fail.i’m different than many on here,once you put on the Raider uniform i WANT you to succeed,whether i wanted you on the team or not(i did like the JR pick).but as of now,he hurts the team more than he helps.i’d like to see what others at the position would bring to the table.as someone on the post game show said-they couldn’t be any worse-Russell is LAST in every category in the league.
November 1st, 2009 at 7:44 pm
JB Says:
November 1st, 2009 at 5:10 pm
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 1st, 2009 at 5:07 pm
Norv Turner’s getting all of the female trainers on the SD sideline into the locker room before Cable approaches.
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ROFLMAO – Very timely observation.
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LMFAO LMFAO
MAN JaDarrenBey is really starting to piss me off this team is as bad as 2006
keep
gallery
z. miller
murphy
fargas
chaz
lechler
seabass
nnamdi
seymour
t branch
huff
m. mitchell shaugnecy ( see if they develop)
AND THEN CUT THE REST OF THESE OVERPAID NO HEART HAVING PIECES OF SHYT.
I FOR ONE COULD HANDLE LOSING SEASONS IF WE WERE REBUILDING BUT WERE NOT WE HAVE ALOT OF CRAP ON THAT FIELD,
OH YEAH FIRE THE WIFE BEATER AND ALL THE ASSISTANTS.
P.S. FIRE THE RECIEVER COACH TWICE.
November 1st, 2009 at 7:45 pm
On the 3rd replay of the two WR’s colliding, I watched the Raiders sideline during the play. Nmamdi threw up his hand’s in total disgust during the play.
November 1st, 2009 at 7:45 pm
YEAH NNAMDI WAS STANDING RIGHT BESIDE CABLE ON THE FINAL DRIVE HE WAS REALLY PULLING FOR THEM.
I SAW CHAMBERS CATCH A BALL ON NNAMDI TODAY AND NNAMDI HAD HIM COVERED PERFECTLY. NNAMDI IS TRULY WASTING HIS TALENT HERE AS WELL AS LECHLER AND SEABASS. COULD YOU IMAGINE WHAT A REALLY GOOD TEAM COULD DO WITH JUST LECHLER AND SEABASS.
November 1st, 2009 at 7:47 pm
i agree we need to bring someone next year and make him compete for his job. im willing to see charlie frye more than grad. its not about wins and losses its about making guys accountable for the 2nd halve of the season. this when smart teams realize whta they are and look to next year and maybe you squeeze a few more wins than expected. i would start d bryant over warren or kelly now. l.walker need to play over barnes and myers should play the rest of the year with miller. we need to look at what we have to keep for next season cuz we do have a lot of raw young talent. we better hope next year is uncapped cuz it will get us out of a ton of big contracts.
November 1st, 2009 at 7:49 pm
Jhill,i don’t think that is a problem.they were both hired to help him become a better QB-and that includes reading def.,making better-quicker decisions,improving his footwork,etc.what type of system they prefer has no bearing on those things.didn’t Hackett coach Eli?doesn’t Eli run a system close to what we run?also,wasn’t one of them(not sure which) hired more as a Off. coach than a QB coach?
November 1st, 2009 at 7:52 pm
mista you got it confused. i dont like to jump on people without giving them a chance to fail first. i had my concerns but chose not to voice them like everyone is. its to the point now where he has to prove to me u and anyone else why we should support him. i am a raiders fan more than a russell fan. if he wont get it together then i have no choice but to say f him too.
November 1st, 2009 at 7:52 pm
yeah lefty i liked the russell pick as well but jhill makes good points about how the raiders have not handled their part of the bargain right either. wrs who dont catch, run into each other a poor oline and inept coaching. not to mention lack of discipline and structure from within the organization and a losing culture accepted by veteran players. lets not forget mismangement of player injuries (walker dmc) and playin time or position. add that up with poor pr and fascination with displining former players turned broadcasters over your own guys is how u end up with this mess.
November 1st, 2009 at 7:54 pm
no jhill i didnt get deleted yet. that only happens when i punked mr. seriously they have more energy to go after gannon than they do their own players. what a joke.
November 1st, 2009 at 7:59 pm
armond Says:
November 1st, 2009 at 7:47 pm
i agree we need to bring someone next year and make him compete for his job. im willing to see charlie frye more than grad. its not about wins and losses its about making guys accountable for the 2nd halve of the season. this when smart teams realize whta they are and look to next year and maybe you squeeze a few more wins than expected. i would start d bryant over warren or kelly now. l.walker need to play over barnes and myers should play the rest of the year with miller. we need to look at what we have to keep for next season cuz we do have a lot of raw young talent. we better hope next year is uncapped cuz it will get us out of a ton of big contracts.
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If this season continues like this i see no reason russell should be here next year. let alone competing for a job.
November 1st, 2009 at 8:04 pm
dmc still wears steel toes in his shoes from last year. think about this, he never tripped like this at arkansas.he also wasnt asked to play right after getting turf toe. u think that hasnt messed him up so far? he had no business being out there but they kept trotting him on the field. and for those who keep sayin he isnt physical enuff between the tackles need to stop. he got hurt cuz the suk azz oline gave a clear path for him to get blasted on a sweep which is his strength.
November 1st, 2009 at 8:06 pm
Bring back Chucky.
November 1st, 2009 at 8:07 pm
Armond,i agree with you guys about the lack of foundation in the org.,the pettiness,lack of discipline,etc.,but i don’t agree about the WRs who can’t catch and the poor oline.actually our line is at least avg. not great,but avg.i won’t condemn our WRs because i feel our QB doesn’t give them the opportunities to succeed.the same with the coaching.the owner ties the staffs hands by dictating who plays and what systems we will run and forces a QB on them that shouldn’t be playing.that limits what he can or can’t do.that is why i put so much blame on the QB.
November 1st, 2009 at 8:08 pm
i havent totally given up on dmac but im through with russell.
and i like murphy alot he makes mistakes but hes a 4th round rookie. he play’s hard and show’s some raw talent. i believe with experience he will get much better.
dhb on the other hand is a 7th overall pick and he has shown no flashes at all.
November 1st, 2009 at 8:08 pm
loco we need a veteran next year even if russ plays the complete opposite for the rest of this year. no more relying on him to “get it” on his own. we need to get better in a hurry and its all about who helps us win. im not giving up on him but i dont want to rely on him either.
November 1st, 2009 at 8:13 pm
i hope we get michael vick hell i’ll take david carr over russell.
November 1st, 2009 at 8:13 pm
so far DHB is no better or no worse than Murphy.in fact Murphy has made many more mistakes than DHB.it isn’t his fault he was drafted at #7.but i understand that since he was drafted at #7 and everyone wanted someone else,he will catch the wrath of the fans.
November 1st, 2009 at 8:15 pm
wow man, just imagine if we had an average NFL QB and receivers that could get open once in a while. we would have swept the chokers this year. oh well, I’ll just look forward to draft day when we pick some 4.3 cornerback that will eat up 30 million. awesome. we could use another fabian washington i guess.
November 1st, 2009 at 8:17 pm
david carr would be a good pickup for next year, he runs well and looking at the oline, which will be no better next year, he’ll need to run his ass off.
November 1st, 2009 at 8:18 pm
loco lets be honest about dhb. he is doing what he did at maryland. the exact same thing. the only difference is they ran SOME plays for him there unlike here. we make no effort to get him the ball. he is getting open but russ wont throw to him. he was never considered the best wr coming out anyway so why the fuss. we dont use him right and our qb cant connect with him.
November 1st, 2009 at 8:20 pm
Armond,
I just didn’t see the post that everyone was saying they agree with you. Thought it might have got deleted.
I totally agree with you on the Charlie Frye thing. Start Frye coming out of the bye week and let #2 earn the job back from him, if he can.
I also agree with starting Bryant and even Shaugnessy.
Too bad (in a good way I guess) we can’t get Mitchell on the field. Huff and Branch have been OUTSTANDING. I think I’ve see enough og the Stan Routt act. Maybe we can go 3 safties like we did with Baker last year?
Walker instead of Barnes is a good call too. LMN was right about that guy!
November 1st, 2009 at 8:22 pm
lefty we HAVE TO BLAME THE WRS. im sorry but its my favorite postion in all of sports with cf in baseball. these guys do not compete for the ball and drop easy passes wat 2 much. murphy is good for a penalty a game and drops more than dhb. higgins is soft and watkins has no place on the field. this will become evident when chaz gets back. watch how he attacks the ball. but yes jr is the problem mainly cuz of his attitude. his play wont change until that changes.
November 1st, 2009 at 8:23 pm
Armond,119,agree with comments on dmac,lets get him ready for KC.Really glad that the Raiders covered today,however, I was WRONG about the game today,and MR and DUDE were right,PERIOD!!!!! Others as well! Glad for the bye week,Raiders are just not good for the blood pressure going on seven YEARS now,just dont feel like bashing them this evening,leave that up to some of you,out
November 1st, 2009 at 8:27 pm
I agree with you about the QB coaches Lefty, to a degree. I just think it makes sense to identify a system, and hire guys that can incorporate your system. Cable is a WCO guy, and so is Hackett. I get that. The problem is Tollner as the “Passing Game Coordinator”. He simply does not fit what the HC and QB coach are trying to do. Tollner’s vertical routes are killing us, IMO. Our young WRs are NOT ready to run those routes effectively against NFL corners, and our Oline can not hold up for those long routes. It’s a bad fit for us.
November 1st, 2009 at 8:33 pm
any cornerbacks with 4.3 speed coming out next year?
November 1st, 2009 at 8:40 pm
dude,
I can give a fck about having a conversation with you.
I can respect a person who hates the Raiders but be true to his words…you’re obviously not.
1. You claimed that the Eagles sucked because they won against inferior teams and that They truly sucked because they lost to the Raiders…I guess hanging 40 on the Giants mean they suck too with a 5/2 record.
2. You guaranteed we’d suck against the Jets. Please dont tell me you actually believed we’d be competitive against the Chargers. You’re just too much of weasel to admit it just like how you predicted Fargas would start for our team and you’d leave this site if you were wrong. Just because someone didnt take you up on the offer doesnt mean you shouldnt stand by your words.
At the end of the day, all of us can do whatever we do online. However, I do believe in being a man of your own words to yourself is most important. That’s the least we can all do on here or else we become the idiots that Mrs., Rackochsyt and all her girlfriends represent.
November 1st, 2009 at 8:41 pm
Louis Murphy gets punked by every DB he faces. DHB is non-competitive and Russell lacks confidence in himself and his recievers. Other than that the passing game is great.
November 1st, 2009 at 8:45 pm
syd’quann thompson
November 1st, 2009 at 8:47 pm
thanks coach cable for your dumb coaching.4th and 2 go for it dummy.they cant stop Fargas.Thank the coach for losing again.deee ta deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
November 1st, 2009 at 8:49 pm
Alisqueer,
1) Never once said the Eagles sucked. Period. You are a liar.
2) You stated I posted that the Chargers would blow the Raiders out. Never said that either.
Pretty evident you are a pretty big liar who makes stuff up constantly. You keep referencing the Fargas thing and yet continue to leave out the part where I said “barring injury”. Justin Fargas was injured earlier in the year and now that he is healthy is getting most of the reps at RB. Just as I said he would.
November 1st, 2009 at 8:58 pm
Lefty12, one question to you. If Peyton Manning had these recivers what would be our record? If Russell had Anquan Boldin and Larry fitzgerald and Chaz Schilens what would be our record?
Actually that’s 2 ?’s but I think that you think that Russell can make these guy’s better. Hell look at Russell and where he is at in his career? Do you really think a young QB can make rookie WR’s better? You have to be kidding. Russell NEEDS someone to make HIM better instead we’re using ROOKIES. Go Figure!!
Russell is IMO as much a victim as the problem. These set of circumstances would stifle any young QB and you should know that.
November 1st, 2009 at 9:00 pm
Priest,
Funny how 2 of Peyton Mannings top recievers are rookies and he seems to be doing just fine.
November 1st, 2009 at 9:09 pm
# priesttj Says:
November 1st, 2009 at 8:41 pm
Louis Murphy gets punked by every DB he faces. DHB is non-competitive and Russell lacks confidence in himself and his recievers. Other than that the passing game is great.
I
saw Dokie 
Williams panhandling at the local Walmart today 
May you 
can talk him 
out of retirement 
buttholeprik 
November 2nd, 2009 at 10:49 am
The best thing about the game was seeing the old clip of Stabler and Casper. Raider no matter what.
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