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Final: Chargers 24, Raiders 16

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Notes and observations from the fourth quarter of the Raiders game Sunday against the Chargers in San Diego:

— Down by eight with 4:36 left, Russell can make a statement about his development on this drive. Raiders are at their own 26.

Russell completes a 15-yard pass to Zach Miller, Oakland gets as far as Oakland 46, must call time out on fourth-and-7, hits Miller again for a first down.

Raiders self-destruct. Shaun Phillips gets sack, Russell fumble. Officials’ review? Was his arm coming forward? Nope.

Louis Murphy-DHB play Two Stooges on pass pattern, colliding as Merrriman gets second sack. Trick play, JLH hook-lateral to DHB fails. Higgins bats ball back, incomplete. Tried to touch pass rather than catch and lateral.

Raiders will have to be content to cover.

That’s 13 in a row over the Raiders, who are 2-6 at the bye. Some players (Chaz Schilens, Robert Gallery, Darren McFadden, Cornell Green) could return on Nov. 15 when they host Kansas City.

As for head coach Tom Cable, his status will be heavily speculated upon following latest ESPN report documenting a “history of violence toward women.”

— Raiders defense allows Chargers to drive downfield after two superb possessions, but stiffens with Michael Huff breaking up a third-and-goal pass from Rivers to Jackson in the end zone. Nate Kaeding converts the field goal attempt from 23 yards.

Chargers countered Raiders field goal with field goal of their own, and took 7:L56 off the clock in the process.

Raiders have 4:43 left and trail 24-16.

— Third-and-8 penalty by Louis Murphy for false start is costly. On third-and-13 from the 21, Russell pass to Fargas two yards shy.

Janikowski converts third field goal of the day, this one from 28 yards. Raiders within 21-16.

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Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer

  • Plunketthead

    Dam, we almost whupped em, boys.
    They carried the ball thirty times for 102 yards.
    We held that running game in check. Its a good feeling from the past years when LT had that many yards in the first quarter of every game.

    Theres always a bright spot when things look the darkest. Remember that in two years when you are standing in line for a bowl of goverment’s finest soylvent green stew.

    Dont look for me in line. I will chew bark off trees like Euell Gibbons before I will submit.

    Raiders 31 Squaws 17
    Breakout game!

    Best 8 game stretch ever coming up!

  • Mistabrown

    Oakglen, when you stop posting as BS Detector we will have a talk about Cables trajectory you are so high on, until then keep on rambling your sociopathic nonsense.

  • armond

    lefty i have to call i see. its bothered me for some time now and i wanted to wait to see if he showed something different before i said that. they are CLEARY playin at his tempo and its just too slow. it saps the energy right out of me just watching him now.

  • Mistabrown

    Armond so it only took you 5 weeks to see what myself and 100’s of others saw. Welcome aboard the reality train!

  • los raiders de don rober

    Jamarcus had a superb game, 14/22 for 109, 1 int, those are career numbers if your name is Juan Marcos…oh, and he fumbled once but we were lucky to get it back…Los Cargadores a los Malosos: ¿quien es tu papi?

  • jhill

    Did ur post get deleted Armond?

  • jhill

    Lefty,

    Let me preface this by saying we pretty much agree on the QB play.

    Now moving past that for a minute, don’t you find the QB coaching hires a bit odd? Hackett is a WCO guy and Tollner is a Vertical guy. It kinda reminds me of Shell having Slater the other guy coaching Gallery. I forget his name right now. But anyway, why 2 guys with different systems?

  • lefty12

    Armond,i totally agree.i don’t want him to fail.i’m different than many on here,once you put on the Raider uniform i WANT you to succeed,whether i wanted you on the team or not(i did like the JR pick).but as of now,he hurts the team more than he helps.i’d like to see what others at the position would bring to the table.as someone on the post game show said-they couldn’t be any worse-Russell is LAST in every category in the league.

  • UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER

    JB Says:
    November 1st, 2009 at 5:10 pm
    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    November 1st, 2009 at 5:07 pm

    Norv Turner’s getting all of the female trainers on the SD sideline into the locker room before Cable approaches.
    ***********************

    ROFLMAO – Very timely observation.

    =================

    LMFAO LMFAO

    MAN JaDarrenBey is really starting to piss me off this team is as bad as 2006

    keep

    gallery

    z. miller

    murphy

    fargas

    chaz

    lechler

    seabass

    nnamdi

    seymour

    t branch

    huff

    m. mitchell shaugnecy ( see if they develop)

    AND THEN CUT THE REST OF THESE OVERPAID NO HEART HAVING PIECES OF SHYT.

    I FOR ONE COULD HANDLE LOSING SEASONS IF WE WERE REBUILDING BUT WERE NOT WE HAVE ALOT OF CRAP ON THAT FIELD,

    OH YEAH FIRE THE WIFE BEATER AND ALL THE ASSISTANTS.

    P.S. FIRE THE RECIEVER COACH TWICE.

  • On the 3rd replay of the two WR’s colliding, I watched the Raiders sideline during the play. Nmamdi threw up his hand’s in total disgust during the play.

  • UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER

    YEAH NNAMDI WAS STANDING RIGHT BESIDE CABLE ON THE FINAL DRIVE HE WAS REALLY PULLING FOR THEM.

    I SAW CHAMBERS CATCH A BALL ON NNAMDI TODAY AND NNAMDI HAD HIM COVERED PERFECTLY. NNAMDI IS TRULY WASTING HIS TALENT HERE AS WELL AS LECHLER AND SEABASS. COULD YOU IMAGINE WHAT A REALLY GOOD TEAM COULD DO WITH JUST LECHLER AND SEABASS.

  • armond

    i agree we need to bring someone next year and make him compete for his job. im willing to see charlie frye more than grad. its not about wins and losses its about making guys accountable for the 2nd halve of the season. this when smart teams realize whta they are and look to next year and maybe you squeeze a few more wins than expected. i would start d bryant over warren or kelly now. l.walker need to play over barnes and myers should play the rest of the year with miller. we need to look at what we have to keep for next season cuz we do have a lot of raw young talent. we better hope next year is uncapped cuz it will get us out of a ton of big contracts.

  • lefty12

    Jhill,i don’t think that is a problem.they were both hired to help him become a better QB-and that includes reading def.,making better-quicker decisions,improving his footwork,etc.what type of system they prefer has no bearing on those things.didn’t Hackett coach Eli?doesn’t Eli run a system close to what we run?also,wasn’t one of them(not sure which) hired more as a Off. coach than a QB coach?

  • armond

    mista you got it confused. i dont like to jump on people without giving them a chance to fail first. i had my concerns but chose not to voice them like everyone is. its to the point now where he has to prove to me u and anyone else why we should support him. i am a raiders fan more than a russell fan. if he wont get it together then i have no choice but to say f him too.

  • armond

    yeah lefty i liked the russell pick as well but jhill makes good points about how the raiders have not handled their part of the bargain right either. wrs who dont catch, run into each other a poor oline and inept coaching. not to mention lack of discipline and structure from within the organization and a losing culture accepted by veteran players. lets not forget mismangement of player injuries (walker dmc) and playin time or position. add that up with poor pr and fascination with displining former players turned broadcasters over your own guys is how u end up with this mess.

  • armond

    no jhill i didnt get deleted yet. that only happens when i punked mr. seriously they have more energy to go after gannon than they do their own players. what a joke.

  • UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER

    armond Says:
    November 1st, 2009 at 7:47 pm
    i agree we need to bring someone next year and make him compete for his job. im willing to see charlie frye more than grad. its not about wins and losses its about making guys accountable for the 2nd halve of the season. this when smart teams realize whta they are and look to next year and maybe you squeeze a few more wins than expected. i would start d bryant over warren or kelly now. l.walker need to play over barnes and myers should play the rest of the year with miller. we need to look at what we have to keep for next season cuz we do have a lot of raw young talent. we better hope next year is uncapped cuz it will get us out of a ton of big contracts.
    =================

    If this season continues like this i see no reason russell should be here next year. let alone competing for a job.

  • armond

    dmc still wears steel toes in his shoes from last year. think about this, he never tripped like this at arkansas.he also wasnt asked to play right after getting turf toe. u think that hasnt messed him up so far? he had no business being out there but they kept trotting him on the field. and for those who keep sayin he isnt physical enuff between the tackles need to stop. he got hurt cuz the suk azz oline gave a clear path for him to get blasted on a sweep which is his strength.

  • Kirk

    Bring back Chucky.

  • lefty12

    Armond,i agree with you guys about the lack of foundation in the org.,the pettiness,lack of discipline,etc.,but i don’t agree about the WRs who can’t catch and the poor oline.actually our line is at least avg. not great,but avg.i won’t condemn our WRs because i feel our QB doesn’t give them the opportunities to succeed.the same with the coaching.the owner ties the staffs hands by dictating who plays and what systems we will run and forces a QB on them that shouldn’t be playing.that limits what he can or can’t do.that is why i put so much blame on the QB.

  • UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER

    i havent totally given up on dmac but im through with russell.

    and i like murphy alot he makes mistakes but hes a 4th round rookie. he play’s hard and show’s some raw talent. i believe with experience he will get much better.

    dhb on the other hand is a 7th overall pick and he has shown no flashes at all.

  • armond

    loco we need a veteran next year even if russ plays the complete opposite for the rest of this year. no more relying on him to “get it” on his own. we need to get better in a hurry and its all about who helps us win. im not giving up on him but i dont want to rely on him either.

  • UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER

    i hope we get michael vick hell i’ll take david carr over russell.

  • lefty12

    so far DHB is no better or no worse than Murphy.in fact Murphy has made many more mistakes than DHB.it isn’t his fault he was drafted at #7.but i understand that since he was drafted at #7 and everyone wanted someone else,he will catch the wrath of the fans.

  • manassamauler

    wow man, just imagine if we had an average NFL QB and receivers that could get open once in a while. we would have swept the chokers this year. oh well, I’ll just look forward to draft day when we pick some 4.3 cornerback that will eat up 30 million. awesome. we could use another fabian washington i guess.

  • manassamauler

    david carr would be a good pickup for next year, he runs well and looking at the oline, which will be no better next year, he’ll need to run his ass off.

  • armond

    loco lets be honest about dhb. he is doing what he did at maryland. the exact same thing. the only difference is they ran SOME plays for him there unlike here. we make no effort to get him the ball. he is getting open but russ wont throw to him. he was never considered the best wr coming out anyway so why the fuss. we dont use him right and our qb cant connect with him.

  • jhill

    Armond,

    I just didn’t see the post that everyone was saying they agree with you. Thought it might have got deleted.

    I totally agree with you on the Charlie Frye thing. Start Frye coming out of the bye week and let #2 earn the job back from him, if he can.

    I also agree with starting Bryant and even Shaugnessy.

    Too bad (in a good way I guess) we can’t get Mitchell on the field. Huff and Branch have been OUTSTANDING. I think I’ve see enough og the Stan Routt act. Maybe we can go 3 safties like we did with Baker last year?

    Walker instead of Barnes is a good call too. LMN was right about that guy!

  • armond

    lefty we HAVE TO BLAME THE WRS. im sorry but its my favorite postion in all of sports with cf in baseball. these guys do not compete for the ball and drop easy passes wat 2 much. murphy is good for a penalty a game and drops more than dhb. higgins is soft and watkins has no place on the field. this will become evident when chaz gets back. watch how he attacks the ball. but yes jr is the problem mainly cuz of his attitude. his play wont change until that changes.

  • gilbert

    Armond,119,agree with comments on dmac,lets get him ready for KC.Really glad that the Raiders covered today,however, I was WRONG about the game today,and MR and DUDE were right,PERIOD!!!!! Others as well! Glad for the bye week,Raiders are just not good for the blood pressure going on seven YEARS now,just dont feel like bashing them this evening,leave that up to some of you,out

  • jhill

    I agree with you about the QB coaches Lefty, to a degree. I just think it makes sense to identify a system, and hire guys that can incorporate your system. Cable is a WCO guy, and so is Hackett. I get that. The problem is Tollner as the “Passing Game Coordinator”. He simply does not fit what the HC and QB coach are trying to do. Tollner’s vertical routes are killing us, IMO. Our young WRs are NOT ready to run those routes effectively against NFL corners, and our Oline can not hold up for those long routes. It’s a bad fit for us.

  • manassamauler

    any cornerbacks with 4.3 speed coming out next year?

  • alisgod

    dude,

    I can give a fck about having a conversation with you.

    I can respect a person who hates the Raiders but be true to his words…you’re obviously not.

    1. You claimed that the Eagles sucked because they won against inferior teams and that They truly sucked because they lost to the Raiders…I guess hanging 40 on the Giants mean they suck too with a 5/2 record.

    2. You guaranteed we’d suck against the Jets. Please dont tell me you actually believed we’d be competitive against the Chargers. You’re just too much of weasel to admit it just like how you predicted Fargas would start for our team and you’d leave this site if you were wrong. Just because someone didnt take you up on the offer doesnt mean you shouldnt stand by your words.

    At the end of the day, all of us can do whatever we do online. However, I do believe in being a man of your own words to yourself is most important. That’s the least we can all do on here or else we become the idiots that Mrs., Rackochsyt and all her girlfriends represent.

  • priesttj

    Louis Murphy gets punked by every DB he faces. DHB is non-competitive and Russell lacks confidence in himself and his recievers. Other than that the passing game is great.

  • 16yearsold16yearfan

    syd’quann thompson

  • Hot Shot

    thanks coach cable for your dumb coaching.4th and 2 go for it dummy.they cant stop Fargas.Thank the coach for losing again.deee ta deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

  • Dude

    Alisqueer,

    1) Never once said the Eagles sucked. Period. You are a liar.

    2) You stated I posted that the Chargers would blow the Raiders out. Never said that either.

    Pretty evident you are a pretty big liar who makes stuff up constantly. You keep referencing the Fargas thing and yet continue to leave out the part where I said “barring injury”. Justin Fargas was injured earlier in the year and now that he is healthy is getting most of the reps at RB. Just as I said he would.

  • priesttj

    Lefty12, one question to you. If Peyton Manning had these recivers what would be our record? If Russell had Anquan Boldin and Larry fitzgerald and Chaz Schilens what would be our record?

    Actually that’s 2 ?’s but I think that you think that Russell can make these guy’s better. Hell look at Russell and where he is at in his career? Do you really think a young QB can make rookie WR’s better? You have to be kidding. Russell NEEDS someone to make HIM better instead we’re using ROOKIES. Go Figure!!

    Russell is IMO as much a victim as the problem. These set of circumstances would stifle any young QB and you should know that.

  • Dude

    Priest,

    Funny how 2 of Peyton Mannings top recievers are rookies and he seems to be doing just fine.

  • Trolls 35 Raiders 0

    # priesttj Says:
    November 1st, 2009 at 8:41 pm

    Louis Murphy gets punked by every DB he faces. DHB is non-competitive and Russell lacks confidence in himself and his recievers. Other than that the passing game is great.

    I 😎 saw Dokie 😳 Williams panhandling at the local Walmart today 🙁 May you :mrgreen: can talk him 😳 out of retirement ❓ buttholeprik :mrgreen:

  • old raider

    The best thing about the game was seeing the old clip of Stabler and Casper. Raider no matter what.