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Postgame wrap

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Sunday, November 1st, 2009 at 8:44 pm in Oakland Raiders.

News, notes and observations on the Raiders’ 24-16 loss to the Chargers in San Diego:

– Raiders hit midseason at 2-6, and it’s getting more and more like the movie “Groundhog Day.” They were 2-6 in every season dating back through 2003, except for in 2005, when they were 3-5.

The coach that year was Norv Turner, who now has six wins in six games against the Raiders after winning nine times in 32 games as coach of the Raiders.

– Much improved effort from quarterback JaMarcus Russell, and the very fact that I typed those words demonstrates how low the bar is set for the Raiders passing offense.

His first interception, headed toward Zach Miller surrounded by powder blue San Diego jerseys, led to the Chargers first touchdown. He completed 14 of 22 passes for 109 yards. He was lucky a first-and-10 forced pass late in the game wasn’t intercepted when the Raiders got a field goal.

Russell completed just two passes in eight attempts to wide receivers for 16 yards, and coach Tom Cable so distrusted the passing offense he put the game in the hands of his defense and Sebastian Janikowski rather than Russell.

And it was the right thing to do.

“I did a pretty good job,” Russell told reporters. “When it all boils down to it, you had a chance at the end to try and win. Didn’t do too much damage with the interception. No matter what happened, I think we came out and fought despite the score and just kept pushing and just came out short in the end.”

Cable thought Russell responded in a positive manner to last week’s benching in leading the Raiders to 16 points and their fifth game of the season with less than 200 yards of total offense.

“I thought he did some really good things that way today,” Cable said. “Very much seemed to be in control today. A couple of throws hed probably like to have over again but for the most part he gave us a chance to win today and that’s what you ask your quarterback to do.”

– We pause for the weekly Cable controversy.

Has there ever been a coach who came out of nowhere with a regular guy persona who ended up as such a lightning rod for unflattering stories? The latest was ESPN’s Outside the Lines allegation that Cable has a history of violence with women, one which his agent, Don Yee, disputed through a press release in a story by the Associated Press.

Cable declined comment after the loss to the Chargers, but intimated during his postgame press conference that it could be connected to the Randy Hanson affair.

“Who knows, maybe they’re tired together” Cable said. “That’s really all I can say about it. I gave an earlier statement that was released and I want to stand by that.”

Fair or not, the formerly anonymous Cable is now an ogre to many. A scuffle in the high-testosterone environment among coaches in training cap is one thing, allegations of striking women is something else entirely.

Cable was backed in a statement by his second wife despite mention of physical abuse in their divorce proceedings. Those who went on record were his first wife regarding incidents that allegedly occurred 20 years ago and a jilted former girlfriend not long after Cable married someone else.

Put it all together, and like the Hanson affair, there’s cause for reasonable doubt.

Except in the court of public opinion, which is far less stringent.

NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said the NFL will monitor all situations, but Cable’s biggest concern at 2-6 at midseason is in the Court of Al.

– Back to our regular-scheduled Week 8 program . . .

– The Raiders had four scoring drives (three field goals and a touchdown) and needed 30 plays to travel only 103 yards on short fields to score.

San Diego had four scoring drives (three touchdowns and a field goal) and gained an even 300 yards on 37 plays.

Oakland has to work impossibly hard to score because of the lack of a passing game, while Philip Rivers throws completions to Vincent Jackson (in the first half, anyway), seemingly at will.

– The Raiders first half of the season, in a nutshell, came on second-and-28 on their last possession. Louis Murphy and Darrius Heyward-Bey, seemingly not much better in Week 8 as rookies than they were in Week 1, are lined up side-by-side. Their feet tangle, they fall to the ground, and Russell is sacked for a 3-yard loss by Shawne Merriman.
(Correction: Receivers were actually Murphy and Johnnie Lee Higgins, the latter lined up in the slot. Heyward-Bey was on opposite side.)

– Yes, you heard Mario Henderson’s name called today because Merriman beat him for his first sack of the season. And it was the first time you heard it for that reason in eight games.

Pretty clear at this point that Henderson’s less than stellar practices performances under Lane Kiffin were due in large part to a coach who used him as a press pinata rather than working on developing him as a player. Al Davis was right on this one. Henderson had potential. Remember when left tackle was a big problem? Now it’s right tackle, with Khalif Barnes struggling again Sunday and Cornell Green possibly back after the bye.

– Another young talent emerged in defensive end Matt Shaungnessy. Cable was talking two weeks about about how Shaughnessy, Desmond Bryant and Trevor Scott were being afforded the “education of a lifetime” working with Richard Seymour and Greg Ellis on a daily basis. Another potential winner by A.D., whose supporters just hate it when all his successes over the last six years aren’t duly noted.

With Ellis’ playing time cut back because of an arthritic knee, Shaughnessy had one of the best game by a young Raiders lineman in recent memory with five tackles, a sack, two tackles for losses and a quarterback hurry. He played with great range, as well venturing far downfield on some plays.

– Justin Fargas gained some brutally tough yards in the Chargers red zone and got the payoff with a 3-yard touchdown run, his first in 115 carries dating back to last season. He finished with 59 yards in 18 carries, and the grim truth is that as proud as the Raiders were of “getting after it” physically against San Diego, they had just 99 yards on 27 carries. Erase a 12-yard reverse by Murphy and there was no gain longer than seven yards.

– Jonathan Holland broke a kickoff return 60 yards, a welcome sight for a team which has struggled all season to get past the 20.

– Janikowski connected on all three of his field goal attempts and is 12-for-12.

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424 Responses to “Postgame wrap”

  1. FREE PALESTINE Says:

    We’ll win some day I suppose…

  2. Raider O Says:

    Free Palestine, and Fire Cable!

  3. SLAB Says:

    Gruden now!

  4. crister Says:

    i’m sorry, but why did you draft a qb whose main atribute is his “cannon” arm if you’re last play of the game on offense to possibly get in position to tie is some bs hook and latter play? not that i at this point have much confidence in russell’s aim, but it can’t be much of a stretch to think that you’d at least try to have him throw it to the end zone? miricle catch, pass interference flag, something? then again, knowing russell, he’d probably launch it through the goal posts and later talk about how he did a great job in splitting the uprights or some silly nonsense in his equally hard to understand tongue that some say passes for the english language.

    dear god, make the pain stop already…

  5. FREE PALESTINE Says:

    I wouldn’t put it on Cable all the way, JaMarcus is a big reason we’re so awful right now. His inability to NOT THROW OFF HIS BACK FOOT! are killing us with incompletion after incompletion forcing Cable to go to the ground against 8 man fronts because he can’t trust JaMarcus to do anything but say “I feel I did pretty good today..”

  6. Raider O Says:

    If I was Al, I would:
    - fire the entire coaching staff, and hire a new staff.
    - draft a DT, MLB/ SLB, RT, RG, FB, and CB.
    - sign a FA OL, DT, and LB if any great talent was available.
    - Cut Warren, TK, S Williams, Euk, Eugene, Routt, Green, Cooper, Pears, Watkins, and Walker.

  7. Raider O Says:

    We are not helping JR with 2 Rookie WRs starting, a bad Oline, and the worse play calling since the B&B Offense in 06!

  8. toec Says:

    Wow is JRuss awful. 3 wasted years. Don’t let it be 4.

  9. Trolls 35 Raiders 0 Says:

    # priesttj Says:
    November 1st, 2009 at 8:41 pm

    Louis Murphy gets punked by every DB he faces. DHB is non-competitive and Russell lacks confidence in himself and his recievers. Other than that the passing game is great.

    I :cool: saw Dokie :oops: Williams panhandling at the local Walmart today :-( May you :mrgreen: can talk him :oops: out of retirement :?: buttholeprik :mrgreen:

  10. priesttj Says:

    The running lanes aren’t there because the two young Wr’s can’t draw any attention from DB’s.

    This year should’ve started with both JLH and Chaz starting and working the two rookies in over the course of the season and then we could at least get a true gage of where Russell is in his development. These two rookies are a JOKE!! and people wonder why he throws into double and triple coverage to ZMiller.

    Hell it goes without saying, just look at the alternatives. Russells weapons amount to the HB’s and the TE he doesn’t even look at DHB. Because he knows he’ll take too long to get open. And it’s gotten pretty obvious he’d rather risk an int. to ZM than trust Murphy. So what’s left………you guessed it a sack or a forced throw.

    Hell what would you do in the same situation?

  11. lefty12 Says:

    hey Jerry,it might help your creditability if you knew who you were talking about.it was JLH and Murphy who ran into each other,not Murphy and DHB.

  12. Raider O Says:

    If JR was sorry since we drafted him, then I would call him a bust too. JR had a descent season last year, and played very well the last few games of last season. He had 13 TDs, 8 Ints, and avg 53% cmp rate. Why has he regressed so bad? I can think of 3 reasons:
    1- the bad oline
    2- Cable’s play calling & the coaching staff.
    3- starting 2 rookie WRs to help a young QB who lacks exp!!!!!!

    Fire the Fat Monkey!!!!

  13. Trolls 35 Raiders 0 Says:

    # priesttj Says:
    November 1st, 2009 at 9:21 pm

    Lefty12, did you see my question to you?

    buttholeprik :mrgreen: Did you :mrgreen: see my :cool: question :?: to you :mrgreen:

  14. priesttj Says:

    Lefty12, did you see my question to you?

  15. priesttj Says:

    Hey!Dumb Dude, Peyton Manning has one of the best WR’s the game has to offer Reggie Wayne. He has one of the best TE’s the game has to offer Dallas Clark and he is a 10 year vet with a SB ring and 6 pro-bowls.

    A dramatic difference in the situations wouldn’t you agree?? whatever drug it is that you use, it worked.

  16. alisgod Says:

    Dude,
    I am guilty of many things but I can assure you I am a man of my words since that is the only thing that is credible here on the internet for all of us. Here is what you claim and here is what I dug up…
    ————–

    Dude Says:
    November 1st, 2009 at 8:49 pm

    1) Never once said the Eagles sucked. Period. You are a liar.

    2) You stated I posted that the Chargers would blow the Raiders out. Never said that either.

    Pretty evident you are a pretty big liar who makes stuff up constantly.

    ————————–

    Post 155
    Dude Says:
    October 19th, 2009 at 7:46 pm
    Yesterday was a nice win against a half way decent team.

    Post 181
    Dude Says:
    October 19th, 2009 at 8:50 pm
    The fact that the Raiders beat them surely takes them off the “Good” level. Get it now clown?

    http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2009/10/19/schilens-to-rescue-of-unproductive-wr-corps/

  17. lefty12 Says:

    bs Priest.quit blaming the rookie WRs for JRs ineptitude.the reason he doesn’t look for his WRs is he doesn’t see the whole field.he waits way to long to get rid of the ball.he only sees(and i doubt that this is true either) half the field.he never looks off the DBs.you constantly knock our young WRs after you spent the last couple of years telling everyone it takes young WRS at least 2-3 years to be successful in the NFL.at this point in time Russell sucks and is dragging the team down.admit it and quit trying to blame everyone but him.

  18. lefty12 Says:

    Priest-no

  19. FREE PALESTINE Says:

    Wonder how empty the stadium will be for the KC game. It was really decieving in the parking lot of the Jets game how many fans attended…the North Lot was really full it seemed.

  20. RaiderYYZ Says:

    Going back to the pre-season I remember all the comments about our wr’s being: “it’s Chaz Schilens and then everyone else”.

    Well that seems to be correct…

    It’s really tough because while JaMarcus has been bad does he really have a chance to even succeed?

  21. priesttj Says:

    Lefty12. if it takes WR’s 2-3 years to learn the game lefty, then why in hell are we playinmg two of them at the same time with a struggling young QB?

    What would be the optimum way to bring a young QB along with experienced WR’s or ROOKIES?

    If it takes WR’s 2-3 years to develope then how long does it take a QB which is the hardest position in sports to learn?? yet you want him hung from a tree because he can make these two better………yeah right!!

  22. alisgod Says:

    Oh btw,

    I never claim you wrote on here that the Chargers would blow us out. I assumed since you knew it all and predicted that the Jets would blow us out, you’d do the same with the Chargers. That is unless you are not consistent and all of the sudden believed the Raiders would put up a fight today? I mean it would be so inconsistent with how you view the Raiders.

    There’s nothing wrong with admitting that you were wrong. No one will show up at your door to kick your a$$ ok?

  23. priesttj Says:

    Lefty12, you’re saying I’m blaming everyone except Russell, but you blame Russell for EVERYTHING……..same difference.

  24. lefty12 Says:

    come on Priest.i’ve seen wide open receivers and the ball isn’t even close to them.the rookies aren’t what they will be yet,but they do get open-and our QB doesn’t see them or hit them.you like to blame the wrs for not making plays.let me ask you a question-how many times has our QB hit a wr in stride-put the WR in position to make a big play?sure they drop balls.just like you always point out Freddy did,Rice did,Tim did,Branch did,etc.but our QB NEVER hits one of the WRs in full stride.

  25. Trolls 35 Raiders 0 Says:

    priesttj Says:
    November 1st, 2009 at 9:29 pm

    Lefty12. if it takes WR’s 2-3 years to learn the game lefty, then why in hell are we playinmg two of them at the same time with a struggling young QB?

    Because greazy al :evil: is too dumb :oops: to sign Dokie :oops: Williams off the streets :idea:

  26. RaiderYYZ Says:

    How does Sanjay Lal still have a job?

    I know Murph and Hey-Bey are rooks but even JLH looks to have taken a step back.

    These guys simply CAN’T get open, even on single coverage.

    Murphy falling down, JLH can’t get separation against a LB, Hey-Bey almost always seems to have the deer-in-the-headlights look.

    CHAZ, where are you?!?!?!?!?

  27. RaiderYYZ Says:

    On the positive side nice to see Super Mario getting some props and nice game from Shaungnessy.

    If only we can get a starting caliber RG, RT AND another 2 solid back-up OL in the off-season MAYBE we can be a good team next year.

  28. Kirk Says:

    Today Crabtree has 6 catches for 82 yards.

    We could have drafted Clady, Calvin Johnson, and Crabtree instead of Russell, McFumble, and DHB.

    Al Davis is an idiot.

  29. priesttj Says:

    Then why does he hit ZMiler in full stride. Those early plays to Murphy were in stride and he caught some. Lefty12 plain and simple he doesn’t trust them.

    Watch when Chaz gets back and see if he can hit them in stride. He did it plenty with JLH and Chaz. I will admit his throws to them have been errand most of the time but when he gives them a chance nothing happens. Bruce came in and got the same damn results Russell did. It was better to go to the HB’s and the TE……..period

    Those two make TOOOOOOOOOOMANY MISTAKES!!!

  30. Dude Says:

    Alisqueer,

    Still waiting for the post that said the Eagles “suck”

    Also for where I said the Chargers would blow them out.

    I will check back periodically

  31. Trolls 35 Raiders 0 Says:

    # Kirk Says:
    November 1st, 2009 at 9:43 pm

    Today Crabtree has 6 catches for 82 yards.

    We could have drafted Clady, Calvin Johnson, and Crabtree instead of Russell, McFumble, and DHB.

    Al Davis is an idiot.

    Al :evil: can make amends by signing Dokie :oops: Williams off the streets :idea:

  32. armond Says:

    priest he has no help at wr but he hasnt done himself any favors. im concerned with his lack of energy on some of these late drives. there is no push from towards his teammates. man we need to start over with the coaching. this cable mess is just getting out of control.

  33. Dude Says:

    Priest,

    You said give Peyton Manning 2 rookies and see what he does. Well, he has 2 rookies soooooo….

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  35. Mistabrown Says:

    “I did a pretty good job,” Russell told reporters. “When it all boils down to it, you had a chance at the end to try and win. Didn’t do too much damage with the interception. No matter what happened, I think we came out and fought despite the score and just kept pushing and just came out short in the end.”

    Sincerely,
    JaMeatloaf Russell

  36. lefty12 Says:

    Priest,i don’t blame him for everything,hell there are plenty of problems on this team,but i have seen too many missed wide open passes.i’ve seen him throw into double,triple,even 4 db coverage when someone else is wide open.it is his 3rd year and i am not seeing 1 iota of progress while i see a terrible work ethic.did you hear on the post game show today where they were saying Snake,Freddy,George,Jack,Skip,etc. used to stay after practice until dark to get things right.i’m not seeing those things with this guy.i see a terrible field manager.in other words,i am not seeing anything from him that provides me with any hope.

  37. DaBeast Says:

    # Mistabrown Says:
    November 1st, 2009 at 9:56 pm

    LMAO
    :D
    =====================================================
    # priesttj Says:
    June 10th, 2009 at 12:40 am

    Nnamdi21, that’s my premise, we are going into the year for the first time in 4 years with a confident offense. As much flack as Russell get he was playing good football late last year. The WR’s wereplaying good football. The running game was showing the all important dpth we knew they had.

    There just is no way we struglle as bad as we did last year.
    ——————————————————
    Thats funny man lol

  38. Mistabrown Says:

    # priesttj Says:
    October 20th, 2009 at 9:33 pm

    If you guy’s think Crabtree is going to come into this league and tear it up on that offense you’re crazy………period Their Oline is much worse thn ours.
    =====================================================

    priesttj Says:
    November 1st, 2009 at 9:22 pm

    Hey!Dumb Dude, Peyton Manning has one of the best WR’s the game has to offer Reggie Wayne. He has one of the best TE’s the game has to offer Dallas Clark and he is a 10 year vet with a SB ring and 6 pro-bowls.

  39. priesttj Says:

    Armond, did you see what was going on out there?? they look like Keystone Cops tripping over each other if ZM is covered where can he go with the ball? Murphy fase starts……..late getting playcalls missed assignments along with his lack of confidence in the entire messs.

    What’s he supposed to do, when he’s been in that situation in the past he performed but these rookies are a mess.

  40. Mistabrown Says:

    LMAO
    :D
    =====================================================
    # priesttj Says:
    June 10th, 2009 at 12:40 am

    Nnamdi21, that’s my premise, we are going into the year for the first time in 4 years with a confident offense. As much flack as Russell get he was playing good football late last year. The WR’s wereplaying good football. The running game was showing the all important dpth we knew they had.

    There just is no way we struglle as bad as we did last year.

  41. Mistabrown Says:

    Priest, how is “Black Moses” doing? Is Kiffin still holding him back ?

    Worst Qb in the NFL bar none!

  42. NorthernD Says:

    Why on earth is the Raiders best receiver lined up in the back field and blocking on passing downs? Does Cable think that is being creative? If Miller goes into the pattern, he takes up TWO chargers trying to cover him. If he stays and block, he only takes care of ONE. Simple math Cable. Don’t overthink it.

  43. Mistabrown Says:

    “There just is no way we struglle as bad as we did last year”

    Sincerely,
    priesttj

  44. Raiders4eve Says:

    # Mistabrown Says:
    November 1st, 2009 at 9:56 pm

    LMAO
    :D
    =====================================================
    # priesttj Says:
    June 10th, 2009 at 12:40 am

    Nnamdi21, that’s my premise, we are going into the year for the first time in 4 years with a confident offense. As much flack as Russell get he was playing good football late last year. The WR’s wereplaying good football. The running game was showing the all important dpth we knew they had.

    There just is no way we struglle as bad as we did last year.
    =================================================
    Man, Priest getting checked lol.

  45. Dude Says:

    Priest isnt wrong 99% of the time Mista, come on…. its more like 110% of the time. Has he EVER said anything that proved to be true?? Seriously, in the off season he actually said this Raider O would be dominant. LOL!

  46. Mistabrown Says:

    priesttj ,
    Since you are 100% wrong on pretty much 99% of what you post can you stop calling us dumbells & ding a lings?

    Thanks in advance!

  47. Raiders4eve Says:

    Mistabrown

    Man, these cats would never admit all the bs they been saying over and over, u think Priest n Oakglenn watch the game? they are here 247.

  48. lefty12 Says:

    it didn’t take P.Manning 2-3 years to get in sink with his WRs when they were rookies.Wayne was good from the beginning-same with Gonzales.it is the QBs job to get everyone involved.ours doesn’t or can’t.if he doesn’t have the proper timing with them he should DEMAND they stay late and get the timing.that is HIS job.

  49. Mistabrown Says:

    priesttj,
    How do you like Black Moses’s pocket presence thus far? Does he have a little room for improvement ?

    “By mid-season the NFL will know what we have at Qb”

    -priesttj

  50. lefty12 Says:

    what does it say when half the people on here are begging for us to run a high school offense because our QB can’t run a pro style offense.everyone wants to do nothing but run because our QB can’t complete basic passes.

  51. priesttj Says:

    lefty12, we don’t know what they do, at least I don’t. Cable said this past week was his best week of practice by far. I hear a lot of conflicting reports concerning Russell. They say they work before and after practice I’m talking about the WR’s and Russell. You’re saying they don’t and those guy’s on the post game show certainly don’t know.

    Lefty12, your problem is you assume every negative report is true. I wait and see what I see for sure. I don’t have a clue what Russell does the coaches know and they’re saying things much different than what I hear from the media.

    Even if Russell is working his ass off studying and such the other players have to do the same for this to work. These guy’s (WR’s)are making the same mistakes over an over again every week. So who’s to say? DHB dropped Bruce’s TD pass in the endzone was that Bruce’s fault?

  52. armond Says:

    the real problem is the lack of focus from upstairs. we had nice gameplan to end the season and they got 2 greedy by wanting to air it out. i wanted crabtree if we went wr at 7. no training camp and he is already catching the ball more. jr doesnt throw to heybey enuff even when hes open. i saw him open with more than enuff time to throw it to him.

  53. Mistabrown Says:

    Ladies & gentlemen, what priesttj fails to mention in the post below is that Manning gets to practice early and stays late, he studys film, he makes sure ALL his WR’s and Te’s know where they are supposed to be on EVERY play. He stays late after practice throwing & running routes and leads by example to make EVERYONE around him better or great!

    priesttj is well aware Jameatloaf does ZERO of this but he will stick his head so far up his own a$$ to defend JaDumbell at all costs.

    priesttj Says:
    November 1st, 2009 at 9:22 pm

    Hey!Dumb Dude, Peyton Manning has one of the best WR’s the game has to offer Reggie Wayne. He has one of the best TE’s the game has to offer Dallas Clark and he is a 10 year vet with a SB ring and 6 pro-bowls.

  54. Mistabrown Says:

    I was being conservative.

    Dude Says:
    November 1st, 2009 at 10:00 pm

    Priest isnt wrong 99% of the time Mista, come on…. its more like 110%

  55. Dude Says:

    Mista,

    I REALLY believe he is Jon Herrera. Seriously. Herrera is a ignorant embarrasing fool just like Priest. Hmm……

  56. Mistabrown Says:

    priest pick up your a$$ up off the floor and leave now.

    The end.

    goodnight

  57. priesttj Says:

    Lefty12, you have a selective memory, Manning couldn’t get his own act together until late in his second season. Marshall Faulk thought he was going to be a bust. He got Jim Mora fired throwing picks for TD’s the famous “playoffs” meltdown took place due to Peyton Manning and his penchant for throwing ints.

  58. ldynblk26 Says:

    Go and pick up your paychecks u over paid Sissys!!!!!!!!!!Raiders U R NOT !! NO HEART!! And as for that Women beater u r no longer a man in my Book!! PISSED!!LDYNBLK 26

  59. Dude Says:

    Havent heard him, but man, I bet its something to behold….

  60. lefty12 Says:

    well,this is late in JRs 3rd season,plus nobody ever questioned Manning’s dedication to the game.while i doubt many things reported by some,when everybody says the same things about someone,there has to be something to it.

  61. Raiders4eve Says:

    priesttj Says:
    November 1st, 2009 at 10:05 pm

    Lefty12, your problem is you assume every negative report is true. I wait and see what I see for sure. I don’t have a clue what Russell does the coaches know and they’re saying things much different than what I hear from the media.
    =========================================================

    Sounds like Al Davis follower, “Randy Moss was good player to us” “Jamarcus will be good, you have to wait and see” yeah yah, sure and i will own the world today.

    Priest, this team sucks because of your lover Al Davis.

  62. Mistabrown Says:

    Dude, have you heard priest on the radio? Hes not Herrera.

  63. tulare31 Says:

    where is Gruden?????!!!

    where is Chazeray????!!!

    i bet these two guys would change our record within an offseason

  64. NorthernD Says:

    WR Louis Murphy looked confused and awkward today. The good thing is, that means he’s finally on the “same Page” as JaMarcus.

  65. Mistabrown Says:

    This complete fool is in here trying to knock Manning to make a case for J Russell.

    Completely pathetic beyond reason. And lefty is entertaining this idiot which makes him 2/3 the fool that priest is!

    LEFTY quit feeding the animals the ZOO is closed!!!!

  66. ldynblk26 Says:

    WOW !! never thought tht would ever come from ME!!

  67. priesttj Says:

    Armond, it’s obvious Russell doesn’t trust Hey-Bey. He’d rather throw into triple coverage to someone he believes will catch it.

    Until DHB and Russell develope a chemistry in practice he will not trust him and it’s obvious that that is NOT happening.

  68. Raiders4eve Says:

    # Mistabrown Says:
    November 1st, 2009 at 10:15 pm

    Dude, have you heard priest on the radio? Hes not Herrera.
    =================================================

    Mista, did u really ? Does he sound like a faaag????

  69. Dude Says:

    Mista,

    Fill me in on Priests radio visits…..

  70. Dude Says:

    Priest,

    Whos fault was it when Russell short hopped Murphy on the sideline on 3rd down in the 4th???

  71. Mistabrown Says:

    Well it ads another dimension to his post here if you heard him on the radio. He is a raging loon and I’m being nice as I can be about that. Last week the host cut him off mid sentence and thanked him for the phone call…lol I thought ok they are going to take a commercial so they had to hangup but no another caller came on.

    # Dude Says:
    November 1st, 2009 at 10:13 pm

    Havent heard him, but man, I bet its something to behold….

  72. lefty12 Says:

    Priest-even Frye mentioned he was surprised when Russell beat him to the facilities this past week.does that sound like he has been putting in the time?while i may believe a lot of the negative reports,it seems you refuse to believe any of them,even when EVERYONE says the same thing,even when his closest(allegedly) friend on the team says it.

  73. Mistabrown Says:

    Dont forget the one before that to DHB when he couldn’t get out of bounds to stop the clock because he had to go down and scoop up the ball off the turf almost losing his footing.

    # Dude Says:
    November 1st, 2009 at 10:21 pm

    Priest,

    Whos fault was it when Russell short hopped Murphy on the sideline on 3rd down in the 4th???

  74. Dude Says:

    Mista,

    Would bet he likes to remind the radio world of ALL the great days of Raider history and how wonderful Al Davis is

  75. ldynblk26 Says:

    The real RAIDERS are Long GoNE,,,But still in our hearts.ALZADO ,STABLER HENDRICKS.HAYES BROWN BILETNIKOFF LONG OTTO BLANDA BRANCH ETC THESE R THE REAL RAIDERS WHO CARED AND EARNED TO BE A REAL RAIDER UNDERPAID AND ALL NOT THESE OVER PAID SO CALLED RAIDERS WHO HAVE NO CLUE TO WHAT ” COMMITTMENT TO EXCELLENCE STANDS FOR”! I Will REMAIN A FAN 4 -EVER ONLY DUE TO RESPECT TO THE RAIDERS OF OLD!!I”M SORRY RAIDER NATION BUT I AM REALLY UPSET BECAUSE OUR TEAM HAS NO HEART LIKE WE DO!!PEACE…

  76. RaiderYYZ Says:

    HALF OF THIS BLOG IS JUST MAKING FUN OF OTHER BLOGGERS.

    waste of time in my opinion…

    Overall I think this bye is at a good time. Gallery and Chaz SHOULD be back for KC and the rest of the season.

    JaMarcus has 8 games to save his career. If both of these guys are back and we don’t see anything I will toss in my JaMarcus towel. As poorly as he’s played I really think he has absolutely no chance to succeed right now with Murph/Hey-Bey/Watkins/JLH(lost all his confidence). These guys do not get open even in single coverage. They drop passes constantly. They fall down. They now apparently run into eachother.

    I think everyone here should want JaMarcus to turn things around. Going for one of the top rated QB’s this off-season in the draft means we don’t draft another OL/DL and put that QB behind a bad OL again…

  77. ldynblk26 Says:

    Dont compare Mannning to Russell Plz ….No COMPARISON

  78. Mistabrown Says:

    Armond, it’s obvious DHB doesn’t trust Russell . He’d rather throw high & wide into triple coverage to someone he believes will catch it.

    Until DHB and Russell develope a chemistry in practice he will not trust Russell and it’s obvious that that is NOT happening.

  79. Mistabrown Says:

    Yeah, I’ve been hearing him since the Raiders returned to Oakland. He used to call himself TJ from Mountain View, then it was Black Hole Priest, not sure what he calls himself now I think just “priest”. No he doesn’t sound like a fag he sounds like a lunatic, a deranged fool. Like in here.

    # Raiders4eve Says:
    November 1st, 2009 at 10:19 pm

    Mista, did u really ? Does he sound like a faaag????

  80. Mistabrown Says:

    Lefty will not stop putting quarters in priest! Someone with a tranquilizer gun shoot Lefty!!!!!!

  81. Raiders4eve Says:

    Well, u can blame the receivers all night long, JR still misses open receivers, doesnt workout hard enough, doesnt care about u or other fans, arrogant, etc. I dont like him, dont want him, get rid of this bum, trade next year for Mcnabb.
    ——————————————————
    # RaiderYYZ Says:
    November 1st, 2009 at 10:26 pm

    HALF OF THIS BLOG IS JUST MAKING FUN OF OTHER BLOGGERS.

    waste of time in my opinion…

    Overall I think this bye is at a good time. Gallery and Chaz SHOULD be back for KC and the rest of the season.

    JaMarcus has 8 games to save his career. If both of these guys are back and we don’t see anything I will toss in my JaMarcus towel. As poorly as he’s played I really think he has absolutely no chance to succeed right now with Murph/Hey-Bey/Watkins/JLH(lost all his confidence). These guys do not get open even in single coverage. They drop passes constantly. They fall down. They now apparently run into eachother.

    I think everyone here should want JaMarcus to turn things around. Going for one of the top rated QB’s this off-season in the draft means we don’t draft another OL/DL and put that QB behind a bad OL again…

  82. Raiders4eve Says:

    Keys to victory
    1) Cut Jr in the bye week.
    2) Sign best available QB, start Frye or Grad
    3) Cut Javon Walker he aint doing nothing
    4) Sign a veteren WR like Toomer as mentor maybe future Wr coach, anything better than Sanjay Curry eater.
    5) Run the ball, 60-40
    6) Blitz 60-40
    7) Fire Cable
    8) Hire Gruden for 7 mill a year if he refuses to come, hire Shanahan for the same money.
    9) Let them decide their GM
    10) Al Davis retires from mingling on this team.

  83. Chris in NY Says:

    Not so much lately but earlier some jokers were trying to blame this loss on Chris Johnson and the defense in general. Clueless. I think our offense is so absolutely awful that some Raiders fans have no idea that real NFL offenses actually do move the ball and score points on a regular basis.

    – This is how bad Chris Johnson is: Vincent Jackson in Week 8 is the first player to go over 100 yards receiving on us this season. Several of his catches came against Routt too. This despite teams throwing at Nnamdi an average of 1 time per week — so CJ is constantly getting tested and no receiver had gained 100 yards yet until today when Jackson barely broke it with 103 yards.

    – This is how many teams that won by scoring 16 points or less today: 0.

    – This is the record of teams that scored 17 or less today: 1-8. The 1 is courtesy of the Rams beating a team that went 0-16 last year and are 1-6 this year by a score of 17-10.

    – 9 of the 11 other teams that won today besides SD scored more than SD’s 24 points.

    – Our offense had a whopping 180 net yards today. The lowest average per game in the NFL entering Week 8 was 220 per game (I’ll give you 1 guess who that is). Meanwhile, the league-leading Saints average 427 yards per game.

    – We did almost double our average point total with 16. Entering Week 8 we were AVERAGING 8.9 points per game.

    – 24 of the league’s 32 teams are averaging better than the 16 points we scored today.

    Face it. Our offense is so inept, so unprofessional that 16 points feels like a breakout game for the offense. Meanwhile it’s an almost impossible total to win with in the NFL right now. But our offense is so bad that it makes our defense look bad by comparrison when they give up a few TDs in a game.

    And I think Fargas ran really hard today again and the last 3 games he’s been tough and looked good, but I also ready someone trying to act like he’s carrying us while Michael Bush flops around and does nothing. Guess what? Bush averaged 3.9 per carry today and Fargas averaged 3.3 per carry. Bush averaged 7.0 per catch and Fargas averaged 6.7. Fargas did touch the ball a lot more but that’s not Bush’s fault. Bush is still the better option and should be getting more touches, especially late in the game when defenses are worn down and more prone to arm tackling. Bush can break arm tackles with ease and break off big plays late in games like that.

  84. Raider75 Says:

    Russell WILL NEVER,NEVER, EVER be an elite NFL QB.

    Mark it down. Its over. I supported this draft because I saw his potential and completion percentage in college. However, he has no fire and no desire to get better.

    HE ACTUALLY THINKS HE DID GOOD TODAY!How f’n stupid can you really be?

    He is slow on his reads, slow release, and stares down primary guys on a play.

    His biggest problem is he has surrounded himself with “friends” who tell him he is good and its everyone fault but his.

    This will be his last year as a starter in the NFL.

  85. Mistabrown Says:

    YYZ, its a little late for that dont you think? This ship has sailed. We cant go into next season with J Russell as our single Qb he has proved he will not put in the work. He has killed the morale of the team and fans….well all but priesttj.

  86. VanHeathen Says:

    This team is so poorly coached, you’d have to be 80 and senile not to…(oops)
    yeah, this team is struggling

  87. Mistabrown Says:

    Chris thanks for that long winded mess of nothing but I been in here for most of the day and didnt see anybody blame the loss on C Johnson. Can you re-post that for us?

    C Johnson has been getting torched all year but you dont blame 1 guy except maybe the Qb.

  88. ldynblk26 Says:

    amen RAIDER 75 what a Bust….

  89. armond Says:

    priest i agree with what u say but the problem here is that the other people are right as well. as i said on the post game show the raiders have failed him as much as he has them.rich wolcoff said that some raider insider told him that he has been seen sleeping in meetings. he says this on the raiders post game show on their own radio network.why shouldnt we believe it now? comin in overweight and being fined for it not 2 mention his immaturity is disturbing. i want him to succeed and it hurts to see him throw away his career so early. but he is throwing it away at our and the teams expense. we’ll be fans long after hes gone. enuff is enuff, get it 2gether #2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  90. jhill Says:

    Well we are in trouble then, Chris In NY.

    I don’t see anyway this offense puts up more than 21 pts a game. And that was the expectation when I thought they might win 7 or 8 games.

    24 pts or more???

    How?!?!

    There is not a QB/WR combo on this roster than produce 24 pts. There is not a coach capable of putting 3 TD drives worth of plays together. We don’t have an Oline that can power us to that kind of production.

    We are a LONG way from being a team that puts up 24 pts per game.

  91. RaiderYYZ Says:

    Mista,

    what i’m saying is let’s cast final judgement after the bye when Chaz and Gallery are back.

    Let’s give him 8 games with a wr who can get open. At 22, isn’t it too early to totally give up on him considering what he’s working with?

    Last three weeks Eli Manning is at a 50% completion rate with about 7 turnovers. Look what a mediocre running game, poor OL protection, and wr’s dropping balls/running bad routes can do for a QB.

  92. ldynblk26 Says:

    im going to bed cuz I am so disgusted!!!GOOD NITE RAIDER NATION…. AL DAVIS GET YOUR CRAP TO GETHER!!

  93. Mistabrown Says:

    YYZ, im not saying cut the country bumpkin Im saying bring in someone to chalenge him…REGARDLESS what he does the last 8 games.

    You cant lay your eggs in the J Russell basket….no way shape or form! Either draft a prospect in rnd 1 or 2 or bring in a quality FA.

  94. Mistabrown Says:

    Thats my judgement today no matter how JR plays the final 8.

    At this point in his career he is a bust no question. Like you said he has 8 more games but I just dont see him putting in the work. Someone might pull the rug out from him so maybe he dont have 8 games. If AL knows this clown is sleeping in meetings I can see him cutting ties…sleeping in meeting is cool if your 7-1 and killing it but when you are 2-6 and the worst Qb in football that will gets the old mans attention.

  95. priesttj Says:

    Lefty12, what makes you think I don’t believe any of what I see in Russell’s immature behavior. It’s not that I deny any of it. I just don’t repeat it until I know for sure it is what they say it is.

    I’ve known about Russell’s non-stop partying since he was a rookie. My nephew goes to the same clubs and they see him out there. Cheater and I have had discussions about Russell in his rookie year.

    I don’t know what he does at the facility because very few people are able to see it. I did have a conversation with a front office person that confirmed some suspicions. But I’ve seen this kid since his freshman year at LSU. And I know that if the Raiders put the right kind of talent around this kid he will play very well.

    Yes he’s young and in some ways says some stupid things, that shows he’s not media savvy. But saying the right things means very little if you don’t do them. My frustration with Russell is he has been very slow to put in the requisite time in the film room due toa lack of understanding how important it is.

    Other than that what I see of him now is a young QB in a very frustrating situation and he’s not handling it with great sense. His comments after the game were in a word ignorant, But honest as the blogger himself agrees and he hates Russell. Most of the people in here point out every bad pass the kid makes but none of the good ones.

    I have said as often as I can that Russell is struggling but I guess that doesn’t count. I have to say he SUCKS!! for you to understand that I see what’s happening. He is NOT playing well that’s OBVIOUS!! so all you haters are right for now!!

    But the year is not over and Chaz is returning and JLH is getting his game back together. IMO!! This will be his calming and confidence also that is the starting lineup I expected from day one this year.

  96. Chris in NY Says:

    Mista,

    Here are the few I happened to see posted just before and just after I posted following the game:

    Terrapin Says:
    November 1st, 2009 at 5:29 pm
    My nick for CJ going forward is “TOAST”. From now on he should be referred to as “TOAST”

    TOAST cost us a lot today. Every week TOAST lives up to his moniker.

    Almost every big play, every key down they looked for TOAST.

    ———————–

    Here:

    raiderzride4free Says:
    November 1st, 2009 at 5:32 pm
    watching Vincent Jackson getting open so much made me sick. why in the HELL was Nnamdi not being put on jackson? i mean C’MON!!!

    ———————-

    Here:

    jhill Says:
    November 1st, 2009 at 5:38 pm
    I agree with you on CJ.

    How disappointing with the way he played last year. Now we were playing a lot of cover 2 today like Lefty pointed out, but he is clearly struggling since the Denver game.

    There were more too but basically from some of the same people who commented on my defending CJ.

  97. jhill Says:

    You challenge #2 by sitting him on the bench. We already have Frye, and there is not much out there better than that. Biggest knock on #2 is his work ethic and so called desire. You shouldn’t be allowed to just show up and keep your job. #2 is not the first person we have heard this about. Someone should hit his arse in the head with a football if he’s sleeping in meetings.

    And with that said, what type of HC allows the QB to sleep in meetings. You would think that the QB would be a big part of EVERY meeting, but he has enough down time in the meeting to fall asleep? LMFAO!

    Sit his arse down, man!

  98. RaiderYYZ Says:

    i’m not blaming everyone else for JaMarcus’ shotcomings. I just want to be able to cast my judgement when he’s in a position to suceed.

    Eli Manning wouldn’t have done much better for us today in my opinion.

  99. NorthernD Says:

    It’s pretty obvious that JaMarcus is on a train flopville. He’s got his money, the cheque cleared.
    The real problem is that we’ll finish in the top 10 for the draft again, and NO WAY will Davis pick another QB that high. They’ll wait until at least the 4th and then take another developmental type.
    I liked Frye from his days in Cleveland. He had zero talent around him, and did a serviceable job. He could be a Trent Dilfer type who can hold the fort while they develop the Next young QB.

    Henderson looks like a solid LT for the future.

  100. Mistabrown Says:

    Chris not 1 of those post blames the loss on CJ they just pointed out the obvious he is getting torched repeatedly.

  101. Chris in NY Says:

    jhill Says:
    November 1st, 2009 at 10:58 pm
    Well we are in trouble then, Chris In NY.

    I don’t see anyway this offense puts up more than 21 pts a game. And that was the expectation when I thought they might win 7 or 8 games.

    24 pts or more???

    How?!?!

    There is not a QB/WR combo on this roster than produce 24 pts. There is not a coach capable of putting 3 TD drives worth of plays together. We don’t have an Oline that can power us to that kind of production.

    We are a LONG way from being a team that puts up 24 pts per game.

    —————————-

    Exactly my point. This team will be lucky to win 2 to 3 more games this season because the offense is terrible.

    We may not score 24 points in any game this season:
    – We haven’t scored 24 points in any game yet through 8 games.
    – We’ve only scored 20 points once.
    – We’ve been held to 7 points or less in 4 of our 8 games.

    I’m not saying our defense is incredible. I’d rank it as slightly above average at best. But this offense gives us virtually no shot to be anywhere in the neighborhood of even being an 8-8 team. The offensive numbers this year are every bit as bad an possibly worse than the Art Shell Part II/Bed & Breakfast offense of 2006.

    I wish people would just reside in reality and stop blasting people like CJ — who is really a very good No. 2 CB and part of a secondary that hadn’t allowed 100 yards to any receiver (including Vincent Jackson; Bowe; Marshall; Andre Johnson; Steve Smith (NYG); DeSean Jackson; and Braylon Edwards) until Week 8 when Jackson went for 103 — and then turning around and gushing about Fargas and his 3.3 yards per carry.

  102. jhill Says:

    CJ has been part of the problem on defense, not THE problem. He’s had a few bad games. It happens. I think the announcers mentioned that he was playing with a bad groin today. But it still doesn’t change the fact that OCs are not targeting his side of the field, and having success with it for whatever reason. Not much we can do though because he is head and shoulders above Routt and I don’t think there is anyone behind Routt, lol.

    Who is our 4th corner?

  103. Chris in NY Says:

    Mistabrown Says:
    November 1st, 2009 at 11:11 pm
    Chris not 1 of those post blames the loss on CJ they just pointed out the obvious he is getting torched repeatedly.

    ———————-

    What qualifies as “getting torched repeatedly”?

    Giving up a catch or two or maybe even three to opposing receivers each week? That’s all CJ is doing.

    Guess what? That’s what probably 90% of the starting DBs in this league are allowing and more.

    The problem is that we have arguably the best CB in the league on the other side, so CJ is being compared to Nnamdi. And then we have one of the worst passing attacks in NFL history taking the field for the other half of the game. So Raiders fans forget that it’s actually extremely common for NFL wide receivers to get open and actually make big plays several times each game.

    CJ didn’t give up any TDs this week. Two of the Chargers’ 3 scores were on the ground and the other came on a blown coverage where no one even guarded Jackson.

    Keep the focus on the team’s real and glaring weaknesses. Right now, aside from punting and field-goal kicking pass defense is actually our greatest strength.

  104. Mistabrown Says:

    For those of you with DTV set your DV-R for ch 698 at 2pm tomorrow. Raiders press conf with B Romanowski’s comments is pretty entertaining!

  105. priesttj Says:

    Guy’s CJ is having problems in coverage due to missed assignments by the entire secondary. On a slant to Jackson th safety dropped coverage. And on some of the deep balls the deep safety is arriving late. CJ is handing off and the communication is bad. We dropped 4-5 coverages today.

    When CJ has had opportunities he’s played the ball very badly which makes it look worse than it is. But CJ is a quality cover corner to be sure. We’re mixing zone and it’s causing confusion.

    Truth be told we need more pressure on the passer and I can’t stand the LB play right now. But this defense is always under the gun because the offense is putrid. Our best offensive play all year has been a play by the TE……….what does that tell ya’?

  106. lefty12 Says:

    dish network channel 409

  107. Mistabrown Says:

    Jhill thats a good question because Bowie went on IR.

  108. Raiders4eve Says:

    raiderzride4free Says:
    November 1st, 2009 at 5:32 pm
    watching Vincent Jackson getting open so much made me sick. why in the HELL was Nnamdi not being put on jackson? i mean C’MON!!!
    ======================================================
    Chris, where does CJ name comes in this quote? I agree with this quote, Asmough is getting paid 16 mill a year and he never shadows the best wide receiver in the game.
    CJ been playing against Marshall, Steve Smith, Jackson, Andre Johnson, etc. With the exception the Eagles game that Asmough got injured, tell me when did u see him shadowing the best wrs in the opponent team.
    If i am the best Corner back in this league, I would have a list just like Ochocinco, mark down which cat i am shutting him down this week. Asmough is getting soft, I think the loses is effecting him.

  109. Raiders4eve Says:

    Seymour a five time pro bowler, 3 time superbowl champion. What is he doing? I watched Jared Allen against the Packers, dude seems to be better than Seymour. Allen has 10.5 sacks and might get 20 by end season,Seymour is eight he might end up with 10 by end of the season. He is a free agent next year, what kind of money would he ask Al to pay him, 3 yrs 40 mill??? He is not playing like a pro bowler. In contrast, Peppers is a free agent, in bum team and he is already got 7 sacks and 3 fumbles and Int this week against Kurt Warner.

  110. Chris in NY Says:

    Raiders4eve,
    I agree with you. Nnamdi should absolutely be shadowing the opponents’ best WR.

    I guess I misunderstood your criticism about Jackson getting open so much as a knock on CJ as many others were doing in their posts at that time. Several of those completions came when Routt was in coverage. The lone TD was on a blown coverage when no one was on Jackson.

    And Jackson aside, Rivers only completed 4 passes to any other WRs on the day for 89 yards and 0 TDs. 20 of those yards came on the late 3rd down play to Chambers against Nnamdi. And 53 of those yards came on the jump ball to the 6-5 Malcolm Floyd over I believe Huff on SD’s opening drive.

  111. Raiders4eve Says:

    We dont have a good defense or offense, special teams also sucks, Coach sucks, Al Davis sucks, everyone sucks.

  112. priesttj Says:

    Duh!! because Allen is an edgerusher Seymour is 310lbs DT/DE. There aren’t many DT that get double digit sacks. Do you know of any??

  113. djohnnyg Says:

    This is how utterly pathetic the Raiders have become that the QB says he ‘played pretty good” when he had only 109 yds. and a pick. And when the HEAD FREAKIN COACH says “that’s what you ask your QB to do”. Nowhere do they even allude to the prospect of WINNING THE FREAKING GAME. Why? Because they suck so freakin’ bad that they think by losing by only eight points is somehow okay.

    This organization is so freakin pathetic, and has fallen so dam far far “commitment to excellence’ that I can’t believe they have the balls to still put that banner up there. That ridiculous banner is an insult to ANYBODY that actually ever strives for excellence. And it is a blatant freakin’ lie. This hapless excuse for a franchise is absolutely NOT ‘committed to excellence’. That is such BULL$HIT. They actually just accept losses as being what is supposed to happen. They think that by not getting blown out, it is somehow a kind of victory. This is how far this BU;LL$HIT organization has fallen.

    What a freakin joke this is.

    I have absolutley had it with watching this horrible organization lose every freakin week and now accepting losing like this, and acting like coming close to the freaking Chargers is somehow okay.

    I am so damn close to dumping this team from my “I give a crap list”. It’s only because I have some kind of mental sickness that I even care at all. I wish I didn’t. This disgraceful piece of $hit organization doesn’t deserve ANY fans. I don’t now why any of you even care if they leave town or not. If I lived near Oakland I would say good riddance to this group of pathetic losers.

    Other than that, I was pleased with the way the boys played today. They were competitive for 60 minutes and really, that’s all you can ask for right coach?

  114. Chris in NY Says:

    djohnnyg Says:
    November 1st, 2009 at 10:41 pm
    This is how utterly pathetic the Raiders have become that the QB says he ‘played pretty good” when he had only 109 yds. and a pick. And when the HEAD FREAKIN COACH says “that’s what you ask your QB to do”. Nowhere do they even allude to the prospect of WINNING THE FREAKING GAME. Why? Because they suck so freakin’ bad that they think by losing by only eight points is somehow okay.

    This organization is so freakin pathetic, and has fallen so dam far far “commitment to excellence’ that I can’t believe they have the balls to still put that banner up there. That ridiculous banner is an insult to ANYBODY that actually ever strives for excellence. And it is a blatant freakin’ lie. This hapless excuse for a franchise is absolutely NOT ‘committed to excellence’. That is such BULL$HIT. They actually just accept losses as being what is supposed to happen. They think that by not getting blown out, it is somehow a kind of victory. This is how far this BU;LL$HIT organization has fallen.

    What a freakin joke this is.

    I have absolutley had it with watching this horrible organization lose every freakin week and now accepting losing like this, and acting like coming close to the freaking Chargers is somehow okay.

    I am so damn close to dumping this team from my “I give a crap list”. It’s only because I have some kind of mental sickness that I even care at all. I wish I didn’t. This disgraceful piece of $hit organization doesn’t deserve ANY fans. I don’t now why any of you even care if they leave town or not. If I lived near Oakland I would say good riddance to this group of pathetic losers.

    Other than that, I was pleased with the way the boys played today. They were competitive for 60 minutes and really, that’s all you can ask for right coach?

    ——————————

    Amen.
    I’m out.

  115. lefty12 Says:

    our LBs are our weak spots.Hank Bowers-ex player,now color guy for SD, even said it before todays game.he came right out an insinuated that is where they would attack us today.he actually praised our DL-called them very physical.

  116. priesttj Says:

    We all got the same sickness bro. Injuries play such a HUGE part in this game of football. I just can’t emphasize enough how much I think not having Chaz Schilens has played a part in this entire offense suffering. We have no explosion on offense. No consistency from one drive to the next. If you go back and watch the last two games of last year with Chaz and JLH we haven’t approached that kind of offensive output. Relying on two rookies is CRAZY!! especially with a very young QB to boot.

  117. djohnnyg Says:

    Priesttj,

    What the heck is still wrong with Schilens? Wsn’t he supposed to start last week?

    When he injured his foot in pre-season I didn’t think it was a season ending injury for cripes sake.

  118. priesttj Says:

    That is a very scary injury and I would much rather make sure that he’s 100% healthy before he ever touches the field. It could bother him all year. He’s healed but it got sore on him. If he plays this game we reallly have a chance to win.

    When Chaz plays with JLH and make these rookies come off the bench you’ll see what kind of QB Russell really is. Because Chaz will make plays and so will JLH. DHB and Murphy are just way toooo young to go against the best corners in this league right now. Sure Murphy as 3rd or DHB as a 3rd takes a ton of pressure off them. And they’re running against 3rd DB’s instead of starters. BIG HUGE difference.

  119. NorthernD Says:

    Someone posted a comment about the type of foot fracture Schilens had.
    Apparently the recovery time is more like 10-20 weeks, rather than the 6-8 weeks we we’re led to believe.
    A “miscommunication.”

  120. djohnnyg Says:

    In the book ‘Good to Great’ author Jim Collins contends that for ANY organization to be successful, and maintain it, they MUST HAVE a leader/ceo who “channels their ego needs away from themselves and into the larger goal of building a great company/organization. These leaders are incredibly ambitious-but their ambition is first and foremost for the institution/organization, NOT themselves”.

    Does Al Davis fit this description? Hmmmm. I wonder what the problem might be? It starts at the top with great leadership NOT this garbage.

  121. djohnnyg Says:

    By the way, Collins also mentions that this successful leader also shows the humility to delegate tasks to those more qualified for the sake of the organization.

    Hmmmmmm.

  122. NorthernD Says:

    I’m sure Davis does believe that he is try to build for the greater goal of the Raiders. The problem is that he IS the Raiders. He took over when they were awful and transform them into champions. It was him and his philosophy that did.
    Now he’s just so old and entrenched in his thinking, there’s no way to change his mind.
    Crazy old Grandpa got the keys and is driving down the road again.
    Going the wrong way down the interstate.

  123. Raiders4eve Says:

    How many snaps does Seymour play a DT? Most of the time I see him as DE, only when Trevor Scott is playing do we even see Seymour sliding, am i right?
    Our starting DL Ellis, Kelly, Warren, Seymour. If I am not mistaken, 75% of Seymour snaps is as a right DE, am i right? If so, why is he not playing like a Probowl caliber, When Seymour is motivated he can get 2 sacks that game. Every week he could be hell to the starting LT and command double team. Watch the last two games, Seymour was man handled when he played DE. Thats a cat who doesn’t care, remember Moss running soft, same as Seymour is doing.

    # priesttj Says:
    November 1st, 2009 at 10:35 pm

    Duh!! because Allen is an edgerusher Seymour is 310lbs DT/DE. There aren’t many DT that get double digit sacks. Do you know of any??

  124. NorthernD Says:

    Also, most CEO’s are only ego driven. They are pretty much sociopathic in their quests for personal gain. That’s how they got to be CEO’s in the first place.
    Al Davis canned Gruden because he thought “Chucky” was young and smart and was going to steal the team away from him.
    He reminded him of a young Al Davis…

  125. lefty12 Says:

    Chuckie was ‘traded’ because he wanted to leave and he was going to leave.

  126. Oakglenn Says:

    Why is fista-brown in here posting left and right, as soon as we lose??? Because he’s a “Raider fan???” Sure. Whatever you idiots say.

  127. JB Says:

    “I did a pretty good job,” Russell told reporters.
    *************************

    This moron doesn’t have a clue. He must be brain-dead. AD better plan on drafting another QB next year or bring in a free agent. JR will NEVER be an NFL caliber QB. He’s simply not smart enough, unwilling to do the necessary level of preparation required of an NFL QB, unable to come in at an acceptable weight (i.e. 250# or less) and unable to master basic footwork. Add to that his inability to learn the entire playbook and to go through and entire rotation of available receivers. He locks on to one receiver and that’s it. He can’t, for whatever reasons, visualize the entire field.

    IMO, AD should cut his losses on JR and move on. I’d even accept AD bringing back Andrew Walter to try out once again. I don’t feel he got a legitimate chance to show us his stuff. His arm is strong & he’s accurate with touch – something totally unattainable for JR. I’ve also had it with Cable. He’s simply over his head and will not succeed at HC. Go hire Gruden back. Pay him whatever he wants and don’t get in his way.

  128. NorthernD Says:

    Chucky wanted a long term deal and more money. He still wanted to coach the Raiders.

  129. priesttj Says:

    If he wanted to he would’ve, but he didn’t want to……….period

  130. priesttj Says:

    Unless Russell says whatever people want him to say he’s stupid irregards to what he really feels. He played OK not good not great just OK…….but he can’t say it.

    His answer was his honest assesment, not yours or mine, his. That’s what the guy asked for. But we require people lie to make us feel better. No one said we should agree. It’s his opinion of his play…..so be it.

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  132. DT42 Says:

    Hire Marc Trestman, I think Cable is a great line coach but he is in over his head. I wish we hired a differnt HC and then we could have kept him as the O-Line coach. Trestman has a proven system that works. Have him bring in as many of his staff from Canada as possible. GET RID of Sanjay Lal. How you have a first year coach in charge of your most inexperienced unit is just stupid.

    Bring in some competition for JRuss so he doesn’t sleep through meetings and show up to camp overweight and out of shape. Trade for Colt Brennan from the ‘Skins then draft Sam Bradford in the second round (he will drop because of shoulder surgery. Those two seem like two guys that are willing to put in the work to become successful. Trestman can bring Chris Leak along with him from Canada to light a fire under JRuss’s ass and teach the system as well as compete for a roster spot. After JRuss gets beat out by one of the QB’s above either trade him or cut him. If we can get a 7th round pick for him that will send a message to the rest of the team (DHB). Produce or become EX-Raiders! Left Tackle and Left Guard are set. Focus freee agency on overpaying quality Offensive Linemen. Bring in at least one veteran presence that knows how to prepare for a game and one vet with something to prove (Matt Jones for min contract). Start preparing for the ‘10 season now.

  133. NorthernD Says:

    Chucky wanted a long term deal. Five years or better. Al Davis doesn’t give coaches long term, big money deals. That gives them too much power, and leverage.
    He thinks coaches win because they are following his system. They are only there to instruct the players he brings in.
    Davis was once the bright young coach who seized control of the Raiders.
    He won’t let it happen to him.

  134. lefty12 Says:

    they are only there to instruct the players-congratulations,you just wrote the definition of the word coach as printed in the Webster Dictionary.

  135. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    There’s no better indication of a franchise sucking ass than fans claiming their team “fought”, based on the mere fact they weren’t blown out. Embarrassing. The ’70s Raiders are rolling over in their beer cans.

  136. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    The ’70s Raiders would not call today’s game a “well fought” game. They would call it a loss. Period. That would be disgusted.

  137. NorthernD Says:

    …following his system.

  138. BlackSunday32 Says:

    Man does Fargas ever complain on that one swing pass Russell threw it so high he got killed and just pops up and hustles to the huddle, I would asked how bout letting make a play my man getting me killed out here. Has Janakowski hit anything but right down the middle and of course Lechler is the man.

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  140. 4evaRaider Says:

    Morning NATION!!!

  141. 4evaRaider Says:

    Mistabrown Says:
    November 1st, 2009 at 10:30 pm
    Lefty will not stop putting quarters in priest! Someone with a tranquilizer gun shoot Lefty!!!!!!
    ***********************************************

    WOW…LMFAO!!!

  142. 4evaRaider Says:

    Most Excellent post Chris…thank you
    ************************************************************

    Chris in NY Says:
    November 1st, 2009 at 10:46 pm
    Not so much lately but earlier some jokers were trying to blame this loss on Chris Johnson and the defense in general. Clueless. I think our offense is so absolutely awful that some Raiders fans have no idea that real NFL offenses actually do move the ball and score points on a regular basis.

    – This is how bad Chris Johnson is: Vincent Jackson in Week 8 is the first player to go over 100 yards receiving on us this season. Several of his catches came against Routt too. This despite teams throwing at Nnamdi an average of 1 time per week — so CJ is constantly getting tested and no receiver had gained 100 yards yet until today when Jackson barely broke it with 103 yards.

    – This is how many teams that won by scoring 16 points or less today: 0.

    – This is the record of teams that scored 17 or less today: 1-8. The 1 is courtesy of the Rams beating a team that went 0-16 last year and are 1-6 this year by a score of 17-10.

    – 9 of the 11 other teams that won today besides SD scored more than SD’s 24 points.

    – Our offense had a whopping 180 net yards today. The lowest average per game in the NFL entering Week 8 was 220 per game (I’ll give you 1 guess who that is). Meanwhile, the league-leading Saints average 427 yards per game.

    – We did almost double our average point total with 16. Entering Week 8 we were AVERAGING 8.9 points per game.

    – 24 of the league’s 32 teams are averaging better than the 16 points we scored today.

    Face it. Our offense is so inept, so unprofessional that 16 points feels like a breakout game for the offense. Meanwhile it’s an almost impossible total to win with in the NFL right now. But our offense is so bad that it makes our defense look bad by comparrison when they give up a few TDs in a game.

    And I think Fargas ran really hard today again and the last 3 games he’s been tough and looked good, but I also ready someone trying to act like he’s carrying us while Michael Bush flops around and does nothing. Guess what? Bush averaged 3.9 per carry today and Fargas averaged 3.3 per carry. Bush averaged 7.0 per catch and Fargas averaged 6.7. Fargas did touch the ball a lot more but that’s not Bush’s fault. Bush is still the better option and should be getting more touches, especially late in the game when defenses are worn down and more prone to arm tackling. Bush can break arm tackles with ease and break off big plays late in games like that

  143. 4evaRaider Says:

    Yep there is a reason Fargas is voted Mr.CTE,the MAN plays and conducts himself like a TRUE RAIDER OF OLD.A fighter who will go down swinging no matter the score.Justin Fargas is a CREDIT to the Raider organization,not flashy or blingy,just a HARD NOSED FUKKIN FOOTBALL PLAYER WHO WILL PUNCH YOU IN THE MOUTH

  144. 4evaRaider Says:

    Fargas wears #25 proud.REAL PROUD

  145. BlackSunday32 Says:

    I would still like some help for Fargas guy runs hard just doesn’t break to many wish they wouldn’t have cut Rankin bet him and Fargas together would run harder than Mcfumbles and Bush.Think with decent qb and wr play we win this one.

  146. BlackSunday32 Says:

    Fargas has improved his receiving big time he’ll never be Marcus Allen but gives it his all , if we could pass any he would have a much better rush avg. Hard to imagine the Wr core is has even worse numbers than last year.

  147. 4evaRaider Says:

    I also liked Rankin.We let Rankin and G.Russell go,even tho we brought G.Russ back…who’s making those decisions???

  148. Russell Feels He Played Pretty Well vs Chargers » Raiders Gab Says:

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  149. vegas raider Says:

    Anyone else see that stat on Jamarcus when he throws the ball more than 20 yards downfield?

    He is completing something like 8% of his passes for a QB rating of 5. Freaking 5!!!!

    No touch and no accuracy, with bad-decision making.

    Our rifle-armed QB is a dink and dunker!!

  150. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    GOOD MORNING SPORT’S FAN’S.WILL THE OAKLAND RAIDER’S HAVE A NEW COACHING STAFF SOON ?(WITH BYE-WEEK HERE)

  151. vegas raider Says:

    If you saw Chris Johnson’s big TD run yesterday, you saw the fastest guy in the draft completely plow a Safety in the open-field, and than used his speed.

    That is why I am so down on Darren. Forgot the fact he never breaks those type’s of tackles, he doesn’t try to lower his shoulder like Johnson did (who is much smaller than Darren). Everyone knew he would get the ball on a 3rd down play deep in his own territory, with VY at QB, so he broke a few tackles than trucked the safety. “D-Mac” will NEVER do that.

  152. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    IT IS SAD BUT TO THE POINT WHERE THE REST OF THE LEAGUE LOVE’S OAKLAND DRAFTING IN THE TOP 10, IF THERE IS A BUST / DEAD-BEAT AT THE TOP OF THE DRAFT ,THE RAIDER’S WILL FIND HIM…

  153. vegas raider Says:

    Jamarcus thought he played pretty well, lol.

    That is the lack of fire I always speak about. Why can’t he say, I didn’t play well enough for us to win and I let the guys down? He always touches on it at the end of his comments, but what’s the first thing he always says? He makes excuses for himself, me, me, me, me!!!!

  154. hwnrdr Says:

    Good Morning Nation!!!
    I really don’t know what to say, but we score our top two score total of the year against San Diego…hmmm…
    I hope the bye week does something, and no not firing Cable…the team really does not need that right now…

  155. vegas raider Says:

    I’m ready to see what Charlie Frye has.

    Let the Chuck Potato era begin!!!

  156. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    No Comment this week on their performance.

    Thank God I did not see the game!

    I will be watching the Saints take on Atlanta tonight that should be a”real” football game.

    Cable, you are out of her by years end. Not because of your xs and bad decisions. It is because your Xs and Os are terrible. Assistant Coach for life son!

  157. vegas raider Says:

    We have to do something about Routt. He just lacks good football instincts. On the Vincent Jackson wide-open TD pass, Routt was lined up across Jackson, but was sent in on a blitz. Only he wasn’t paying enough attention, got a late jump on the snap because he was flat-footed and was a non-factor on the blitz getting nowhere near Rivers even though nobody was in to block him and Jackson was wide-open. Bad play-call, worse execution.

    As much as it might piss some off in here, we should draft a DB somewhere around Round 3 or 4. Simply upgrading Routt would produce at least one more 3rd down a game our D could get off the field. Seriously, teams are just throwing at him on 3rd downs, and what is the rate of success for opposing teams? Between penalties and completions, I would guess around 50-60%.

  158. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    GOOD DAY HWNDR,WHEN DO U DROP THE AXE,NOW, OR AFTER 6-8 MORE LOSSES ? I DO NOT THINK CABLE WILL BE BACK NEXT YEAR SO WHAT IS THE POINT ?

  159. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    Routt is a terrible DB he gets burnt every game.
    I hate his play, he would be cutt on any other team RR.
    ———————————-
    vegas raider Says:
    November 2nd, 2009 at 6:50 am
    We have to do something about Routt. He just lacks good football instincts. On the Vincent Jackson wide-open TD pass, Routt was lined up across Jackson, but was sent in on a blitz. Only he wasn’t paying enough attention, got a late jump on the snap because he was flat-footed and was a non-factor on the blitz getting nowhere near Rivers even though nobody was in to block him and Jackson was wide-open. Bad play-call, worse execution.

    As much as it might piss some off in here, we should draft a DB somewhere around Round 3 or 4. Simply upgrading Routt would produce at least one more 3rd down a game our D could get off the field. Seriously, teams are just throwing at him on 3rd downs, and what is the rate of success for opposing teams? Between penalties and completions, I would guess around 50-60%.

  160. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Seabass is making a strong push for the Commitment to Excellent award.

    thats all the positives I have. sorry fellas

    Tomlinson & Merriman were nobodys this year until they played us yesterday and now they revert back to Pro Bowl status? disgusting.

    Al Davis is illogical. Tom Cable is unqualified and Jamarcus Russell is ineffective. This team would have a hard time winning with 1 of those 3 elements. Combine the 3 and it spells DISASTER.

    Can’t wait for the draft!

  161. hwnrdr Says:

    I do see your point Dirt Lot, but who?

  162. vegas raider Says:

    CJ,

    You don’t think Fargas would fit in perfectly as backup at a Pittsburgh or Baltimore, or the Eagles? He is a hard-working extremely physical RB, with no drama. I think 31 teams would find a way to have him on the roster.

    Frye might be awful, but so is Russell. What if Frye comes in and we score 17 points and DHB has 5 catches in a game? We would probably still lose, and Frye would still not be the long-term answer, but it would help understand more how awful Russell is.

    Guarantee Frye or Bruce would play better than Russell, and Russell is the vet of the group!! He has now started more games than either of those two!!

  163. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    Charlie Frye has nothing!!! He is a Clevland cast off!! If he had something they would have never let him go. There QB situation was terrible when they cut him and terible now. Frye, Routt, Fargas, lets be honest would not even make most rosters out there. If they did they most likely would not be starting. Oh and I forgot also our whole offensive line would not be sarting for another team. Yes, 80% of them would be cut!

  164. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    Wow Craptree, Harvin, and Maclin had a pretty good Sunday.

    DHB and Murphy who?

  165. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    THAT IS THE QUESTION HWNDR, ANOTHER PUPPETT THAT WILL BE GONE IN 2 YRS, OR A REAL COACH ? NOT A BIG COWHER FAN BUT..

  166. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Tom Cable is a dirtbag.

    hey Al, ever heard of a background check?

    if a guy can’t even control himself in his home, how is he supposed to control an entire locker room & staff?

    did Cornell Green get the mop handle idea from Cable?

    any man who hits a woman, open hand or not, has some serious issues and should not be in a position of authority.

  167. RaiderRockstar Says:

    CJ:

    Crabtree has Shaun Hill & Alex Smith
    Harvin has Brett Favre
    Maclin has Donovan McNabb
    Nicks has Eli Manning
    Britt has Vince Young & Kerry Collins

    ***

    look at the coaches & QB’s these guys have. Heyward-Bey has been in a position to fail since Day 1!

    promote Lionel friggin Washington to HC and fire Cable already. Hackett & Tollner can create the game plans. then bench JaWalrus and hand the reigns to Danny Southwick. thats the only way to finish 8-8

  168. RaiderTW Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    any man who hits a woman, open hand or not, has some serious issues and should not be in a position of authority.
    ——————-
    Evidently Rockstar has never had or known anyone who’s had a b@ts#!t crazy Ex come to their house uninvited & won’t leave. That or he keeps a net close to throw her in & drag her off.
    Holier than thou? Rockstar?

  169. Florida Pete Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    November 2nd, 2009 at 7:01 am
    Tom Cable is a dirtbag.

    hey Al, ever heard of a background check?

    if a guy can’t even control himself in his home, how is he supposed to control an entire locker room & staff?

    did Cornell Green get the mop handle idea from Cable?

    any man who hits a woman, open hand or not, has some serious issues and should not be in a position of authority.

    ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    hey, girlfriend…

    one has nothing to do with the other…

  170. RaiderTW Says:

    RaiderRockstar Says:
    i know you’re not a rocket scientist Pete, but I expected something a little more intelligent from you …
    ——-
    Please RR we never expect that from you! lol

  171. Thec07 Says:

    Nation, what is up???????

    Hope all you guys are having a great morning.
    GAME BALL to all of you on this blog, and to all the Raider fans world wide. You guys are all die-hard 100%
    legit and stand up……

  172. Dakota Says:

    Cable the admitted wife beater…wow…fantastic, the news just keeps getting better and better.

    Never mind about waiting till the end of the year Al, fire the Wife Beating Buffoon NOW.

  173. RaiderRockstar Says:

    i know you’re not a rocket scientist Pete, but I expected something a little more intelligent from you …

  174. los raiders de don rober Says:

    My thoughts on the offense: 2009, 9.8 pts/game, 216 yds/ game…2006 (bed & breakfast, worst in history, etc. etc) 10.4 pts/game, 246 yds/ game……..Cable is as gone as Art Shell’s 1000 yard stare…its done.

  175. Jay Says:

    “Put it all together, and like the Hanson affair, there’s cause for reasonable doubt.”

    Jerry, if I didn’t know any better I would say you are on Al Davis’s payroll. What’s with the Al Davis ass kissing all of a sudden?

    You failed to mention that Cable actually sent his first wife a letter when he beat her apologizing for it. His second wife is currently bringing down a monthly 5 figure income from Cable, so you think that didn’t have anything to do with her refuting the allegations she made herself in a COURT DOCUMENT?

    Then you go on to mention some silly things about Henderson and Shaughnessy as if that is adequate compensation for the worst team going the past seven years.

    Not sure if you have been paying attention but the majority of Raider fans KNOW what they see and there is only one person responsible, old man Al.

  176. RaiderRockstar Says:

    i’m outta here. work to do

    the AM crew has been tainted anyways …

    later Hwnrdr, Dirt Lot, CJ, Vegas, etc

  177. Dakota Says:

    If there have been three women who at one time or another accused Cable of violence, then there are probably many more that he harmed that never had the courage to speak out.

    Cable is a POS human and a crap coach.

    FIRE HIM!

  178. DIRT-LOT FOOTBALL Says:

    LATER ROCKSTAR..

  179. hwnrdr Says:

    Predictions on the season W-L record? goodness, I hate doing this every year…
    It doesn’t matter who is in the HC seat, Al needs to step down (as GM) and get a real, wait, should I say a up to date GM and sit back and enjoy the ride…I guess same could be said for the HC, too!

  180. CJ Legend 34 Says:

    Watched the Charger high lights it was sad. Russel continues to struggle, not much to throw to on the field. Not entirely his faught. Dbs playing soft giving up big yards, lots of times WRs were wide open. Our running game is weak and pass protection not that much better. Throw Frye back there he will get destroyed as well. WRs knocking each other down in passing routes. No one open and when they are Russel misses them it is like he has tunnel vision.

    Terrible, terrible product! I would never pay a ticket to watch this team. To all you season ticket holders, I am sorry for you all, what a waste of cash in a bad economy.

    I am out!

  181. Dakota Says:

    Hey Al Davis, new rule…if a player cannot complete a sentence during a pre-draft interview, you cannot draft him to play QB.

  182. wishbone Says:

    Once again JR looks like a guy playing in his first game. When is everyone gonna wake up and see that this clown will NEVER be a good NFL QB? The OLine did an incredible job yesterday with the Chargers having 9 or more in the box on virtually every play. Teams don’t respect JR or the passing game whatsoever. Just look how far ahead all other young QB’s are. Ryan, Flacco, Sanchez, ect. JaFata&& will NEVER be anything more than just one big fat moron who can barely read. Cut your losses AL and get a real QB.

  183. RaiderRockstar Says:

    if a player cannot complete a sentence during a pre-draft interview, you cannot draft him to play QB.

    ***

    Dakota, but he ate fish and he can throw 70 yards from one knee!

  184. Dakota Says:

    Mr. 17-49 must go! Set aside the fact that he is a wife beater….the dude only wins 25% of his games as a HC!

    Fassel, Gilbride or even D. Green would be better than this joke!

  185. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Russell flew Louis Murphy, Will Franklin and Todd Watkins to Alabama for a secret passing camp in July and he showed up to work 90 minutes early on Wednesday after getting benched in a 38-0 beatdown by the Jets.

    how can he possibly be a bust?

    gotta blame somebody. I blame Jeff Garcia!

    and Colonel Sanders!

  186. Ryan Says:

    I am not willing to throw the JaBaby out with the bathwater until he get’s his other security blanket healthy.

    Chaz means alot to Russell. Yesterday all I saw was stupid rookie WR mistakes and they still had a chance to at least tie at the end.

    And I don’t think you can say “Payton is throwing to two rookie WRs”. That isn’t fair when the third WR is Reggie Wayne.

    Russell needs his Reggie Wayne in Chaz to be there along with his Dallas Clark in Zach Miller.

    Until then, the jury is still out on Russell.

  187. vegas raider Says:

    How about that one-hop pass to Murphy on the sidelines right before the half after the Holland return? With less than a minute to go, no timeouts and facing a 3rd and 14 in FG range, the last thing a Defense would want to give up is a first-down along the sidelines and out of bounds. Only Jamarcus can’t complete those passes, so the Chargers just gave that to them, Murphy was WIDE OPEN and off course Jamarcus did his part and was way off target.

    Seabass bailed him out. Just LOL awful at times.

  188. Ryan Says:

    The Russell int. looked like a PI against Miller that wasn’t called (However, the same PI was called against Johnson later in the game setting up a SD TD).

    And it looked to me like Russell was passing to the rookie WR who tripped over his own feet on the play.

    I’ve been saying all year, and in the past years, WR is the worst possition to rely on Rookies. These kids will be good someday, it’s just asking too much from them when they are rookies.

    And don’t give me the Crabtree excuse either, he has Bruce to take some preasure off.

  189. vegas raider Says:

    How about that Charger O-lineman’s dive at Seymour’s knee’s on the INT return?

    After 8 weeks of him, I get the impression that ol’ Dick Seymour hasn’t made too many friends with opposing players in the league. He would definately make a great “Raider”, but I doubt he wants anything to do with this mess.

  190. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Chaz Schilens will never be anything close to Reggie Wayne or even Michael Crabtree with JaWalrus behind center …

  191. Ryan Says:

    How about Murphy’s false start? How about Murphy’s tripping over his own feet and being on the ground during the INT? How about Murphy’s getting man handled by the CB and getting pushed into JLH knocking them both to the ground? The SD CBs must have been laughing there butts off. How many times have you ever heard a possition group get call Keystone Cops.
    How about Murphy’s inablity to get both feet down on a sideline throw? These are all things I sure Chaz does differently. They all add up and will make a huge differnce.

    If I remeber correctly, Elway sucked when he didn’t have good WRs, also.

    It all comes down to WRs with experience at the Pro level. Bad combination.

  192. Raider O Says:

    Did you hear what LT said about sending Raider Fans after games with their heads downs. He said that was the 13th time that they sent us home with our heads down, and that little monkey really enjoyed it!!!

    LT,
    If I was you, I would be worried about my Future in the NFL after I lost a few steps. For you LT the NFL stands for Not For Long Biotch Monkey!!!

  193. jhill Says:

    LOL at the wife beater angle as cause. Hey, whatever it takes!

    It’s as simple as the record you mention, Dakota. Not to mention the product we see on the field.

    Cable is a bad coach, and Al is an awful GM. Not one of the young guys in Russell, JLH, Chaz, McFadden, Murphy, Bush, DHB, or Meyers have BEEN developed. I guess Cable and staff are waiting for them to develop themselves. Andrew Walter, Fabian Washington, I mean, we all know the names, man!

    Look at us sitting here begging for Charlie frickin’ Frye, lol! Awwwwwww MANNNNN, this is bad!

  194. Dakota Says:

    Ryan Says:
    November 2nd, 2009 at 8:07 am
    I am not willing to throw the JaBaby out with the bathwater until he get’s his other security blanket healthy.

    Chaz means alot to Russell. Yesterday all I saw was stupid rookie WR mistakes and they still had a chance to at least tie at the end.

    And I don’t think you can say “Payton is throwing to two rookie WRs”. That isn’t fair when the third WR is Reggie Wayne.

    Russell needs his Reggie Wayne in Chaz to be there along with his Dallas Clark in Zach Miller.

    Until then, the jury is still out on Russell.
    _____________________________________

    Payton Manning, through sheer willpower, would turn the Raiders’ offense into a watchable entity. He would make Zach Miller the best TE in the NFL and he would turn DHB and Murphy into good players by practicing with them until they were a cohesive unit. He would lift the franchise.

    Russell can’t do that, and most QBs can’t do that, but still…Manning was the example used.

  195. vegas raider Says:

    I hope Al gives Jamarcus the Jovan Walker treatment, the “take a paycut or we are cutting you, your choice” move.

    Find out who is worth keeping more, Frye or Bruce, and either bring in Vick or a draft a rookie in the 2nd or 3rd round, and possibly bring back a salary-reduced Jamarcus Russell.

    Seems like a lot of sense to me, so expect Al to do the complete opposite.

  196. Ryan Says:

    I watched Payton Manning yesterday and he didn’t look all that good. He also gets a lot of drops from his rookie WRs. The difference is he has Reggie and some 8 or 10 years experience.

    I think it is unfair to say Russell sucks because he can’t make it work right now 2 years in the league with 3 WRs that have never caught a ball. While Payton can make it work with some 10 years in the league throwing to 2 WRs that have never caught a ball, but he has a pro bowl WR out there with him.

    All that said, I am not saying Russell will ever be as good as Manning or Elway, but I am not ready to say he is Leaf until he gets some help.

  197. Larz Says:

    Reason we lost:

    No pass rush.

    The coverage in most cases was good.

    Except eugenes’s brain fart in the endzone.

    Phillips did not even get his uniform dirty.

    Their WR are wayyyyyy better than ours.

  198. jhill Says:

    It’s not looking good, Vegas.

    Gradkowski, Frye, or Vick? And that gets us what, 5 or 6 wins next year?

    You know Al is not going to do any such thing with Russell. Our best hope is Al delivering on that GM he promised. And hopefully it is someone who by name and experience commands the respect of the players. Once that happens, we MIGHT start to see some accountabilty, which is the ONE thing that has been missing since Gruden left.

    It all starts with a quality GM coming in. Anything short of that will simply be pattern of 5-7 win seasons.

  199. vegas raider Says:

    Ryan Says:
    November 2nd, 2009 at 8:16 am

    If I remeber correctly, Elway sucked when he didn’t have good WRs, also.

    ************************************

    Elway went to the Super Bowl in his 4th and 5th years. Since I don’t think we will be doing that in the next two years, let’s end all the Elway comparisions. In Elways 2nd and 3rd year, he threw 40 TD’s and 38 INT’s. Not great, but light years ahead of this guy.

    The most important and biggest difference between Elway and Russell. Elway went to Stanford and has a degree in Economics.

  200. Larz Says:

    I keep waiting for one of these TV analysts to show us all of the open WR that JR is missing when he drops back.

    They are always replaying his sacks and fumbles but why don’t we get a full feild shot and see what he’s missing?

  201. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Aaron Rodgers got sacked 14 times in 2 meetings against the Vikings this year. both games he had no o-line, no running game and no help from the defense.

    yet he still was EXTREMELY PRODUCTIVE. after the game, he didn’t make stupid comments like this:

    “I did a pretty good job,” Russell told reporters. “When it all boils down to it, you had a chance at the end to try and win. Didn’t do too much damage with the interception. No matter what happened, I think we came out and fought despite the score and just kept pushing and just came out short in the end.”

    Rodgers in Oakland would have us at 10-6

  202. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Their WR are wayyyyyy better than ours.

    ***

    Larz,

    Philip Rivers with DHB, Murphy & Watkins at WR would still be 100 times better than Russell with Vincent Jackson, Chris Chambers and Malcolm Floyd.

    shoot. throw Gates in there too!

    I hate the dolts, so it pains me to say that, but it’s true. JaWalrus is the worst starting QB in the NFL.

  203. jhill Says:

    Exactly Ryan!

    DHB, Murphy, and Watkins. A combined ZERO catches worth of experience, and these are our top 3 WRs?!?!?

    LMFAO!

    WTF did u guys expect?

    And instead of an uproar directed towards the geniuses that thought it would be a good idea to have that trio as out top 3 guys, we get on the QB. The same QB who can magically find the TE and RBs, and even a FB fresh off the street.

    Our WRs are awful and not one of them would be more than a #4 guy on any other team. Frye needs some new WRs coming out of the bye week.

  204. jhill Says:

    Aaron Rodgers has Driver and Jennings.

    CMON!

    Russell is immature, and all the things that some along with it. WE GET IT!

    But to compare him to Peyton Manning? LMFAO! Rodgers, Flacco, Ryan ????

    What’s the point? You are NUTS if you think ANY one of those QBs would do SQUAT here. They would walk out just like Garcia did when they get a load of what they had to go into battle with, lol!

  205. Dakota Says:

    Russell sucks big-time, however, I would still like to see him get another shot with a competent HC and o-line.

    Not likely to happen but part of me still has a tiny bit of hope for Russell. It might be too late because the kid was drafted into a situation that 85% of QBs would fail in (countless OC changes and no discipline) but one can still hope we might hire a HC with some authority that could straighten out JR at the end of the season.

    Probably not, but I still have a little hope!

  206. jhill Says:

    Philip Rivers with DHB, Murphy & Watkins at WR would still be 100 times better than Russell with Vincent Jackson, Chris Chambers and Malcolm Floyd.

    shoot. throw Gates in there too!

    ——————————————————-

    LOL!

    What is in the coffee this morning?

    So your telling me that #2 with Gates, Jackson, Floyd, and Chambers would get out performed by Rivers with our WRs?

    LOL! I could see Rivers melting down on DHB and Murphy after all those drops mount up. Could you really see him and Cable getting along with the plays that guy dials up?

    Rivers with our WRs? That would be HILARIOUS!

    Just make sure you throw in the prima donna, finger pointing LT on their side. That way we are guaranteed an on field meltdown!

  207. vegas raider Says:

    Jhill,

    I think even a 20th ranked offense, would inspire the D a hair more, mixed with good ST’s, could at least get us a lot closer to .500 ball.

    No doubt that Al Davis needs a GM and an NFL caliber staff. That’s the bigger issue, obviously. No debate there, what’s so ever. When Tom Cable is your O-line coach, that is a sign of a good staff, when he is your Head Coach, that is not a good sign.

    With all that said, if we could get a head-strong QB to lead, much like Gannon, we can at least progress as a team. Not saying we would have the success we had under Rich, but Jamarcus is taking the team backwards, and who would have thought that was even possible!

    Do you think a majority of his teammates think he did “a pretty good job” yesterday? No way! He inspires hopelessness, not hope! Hands-down worst body-language for a starting NFL QB. The teammates that care, and I am sure there is plenty who don’t (Al to blame for that), are ready to see someone else, anyone else, I can guarantee it.

  208. vegas raider Says:

    I don’t know how well Rivers would do with our WR’s, obviously a lot worse. But I do know, he would not have thrown the ball to whoever Jamarcus was throwing too on the first drive. He would have a clue as to what to do at the end of half’s and games. He would know when to not take a sack. He would hit our WR’s on the few occasions they are open, a helluva lot more than Russell.

    No comparision. Switch QB’s and Raider win yesterday. Easily.

  209. wishbone Says:

    Pretty good job = less than 5 int’s & less than 3 fumbles.

  210. jhill Says:

    Larz Says:
    November 2nd, 2009 at 8:30 am

    I keep waiting for one of these TV analysts to show us all of the open WR that JR is missing when he drops back.

    ——————————————————-

    You’re not going to see it, lol! I was surprised they actually showed JLH and Murphy tripping over each other. I bet you ANYTHING we would have heard nothing but how can JRuss take a sack on that play.

    Look how long it took them to show the replay of the first pick and illustrate that Miller was held, and Murphy fell down, lol!

  211. RaiderRockstar Says:

    What is in the coffee this morning?

    So your telling me that #2 with Gates, Jackson, Floyd, and Chambers would get out performed by Rivers with our WRs?

    ***

    Yep.

    coffee is hot & black. folgers specialty blend (medium roast i think). I prefer Colombian, but it is what it is

  212. wishbone Says:

    JaFata&& didn’t graduate from LSU in 2007, but I hear he will be going back this summer to get his degree. His degree is in chicken & biscuits. They were going ask him to speak at graduation, but we reminded that he can’t read. If any of you are wondering where Nick Miller has been well just to let JaFata&& ate him with a side of banana pudding.

  213. vegas raider Says:

    The Raiders should put Jamarcus on the scale this morning. Tell him if he puts on any weight during the bye week he isn’t playing the week after.

    Obviously being embarressed on the field isn’t enough to be motivate the kid. Maybe embarressing him off the field would.

  214. RaiderRockstar Says:

    who would have thought that Khalif Barnes at RT was actually a downgrade from Cornell Green & Erik Pears?

    Cable sure knows how to pick them hogs for the zbs, eh fellas? yowsa!

  215. jhill Says:

    I agree with Dakota, Vegas.

    Everything you mention about #2 I agree with. But all those things can be corrected with a Cowher, Gruden, or Fisher type of coach. We are stuck with a guy who is talented but lacks motivation.

    Well motivate his ass!

    The threat of him losing 10 million dollars next year is what I bet anything got his ass up at 5:00am last week. Uncapped year, and guys can get cut with no ramifications?

    What ever the hot button is, find it, and get this guy motivated.

    I actaully like his confidence, or arrogance if u want to call it that. I understand if not being PC, but all I think about is that punk ass Walter holding his head down and looking defeated all the time.

    Get a real coach in here and let’s see what happens!

  216. M Lonetree Says:

    So fellas, damsels, who’s the coach for the rest of the year? Paul Hackett? He’s old and won’t do any more damage for the next eight games.

  217. jhill Says:

    Switch QBs and the Raiders win easily yesterday?

    How?

    Only way that happens if if #2 fuggs up the game for the Chargers.

    Like Larz said, the WRs were NOT open yesterday. They were literally tripping over each other.

    Vegas, check the replay! Rivers would have got picked to since Miller was HELD and Murphy FELL down, lol!

    Would you agree that the timing was off because of the hold and the fall down? Are you telling me #2 should have anticipated those two things happening?

  218. UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER Says:

    This must be what it feels like to burn to death.

    FIRE CABLE NOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  219. Raider O Says:

    Anyone but Cable & Marshall!

  220. Bo Schembechler Jackson Says:

    promote Lionel friggin Washington to HC and fire Cable already. Hackett & Tollner can create the game plans. then bench JaWalrus and hand the reigns to Danny Southwick. thats the only way to finish 8-8

    :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

    I’d roll with that, as long as we hire Jeff Fisher as soon as he is fired.

  221. RaiderRockstar Says:

    So fellas, damsels, who’s the coach for the rest of the year?

    ***

    Sanjay Lal !!!

  222. raidertay Says:

    I said at the beginning of the season. You cant have young WRs and a young QB. One of them should be vets. We desperately need to sign some quality veteran WRs until these guys are ready to produce.

  223. RaiderRockstar Says:

    as long as we hire Jeff Fisher as soon as he is fired

    ***

    then we’d see Fisher making jokes in a Rivers jersey at charity events talking about wanting to know what it feels like to be a winner. haha

  224. vegas raider Says:

    jhill Says:
    November 2nd, 2009 at 8:59 am

    The threat of him losing 10 million dollars next year is what I bet anything got his ass up at 5:00am last week. Uncapped year, and guys can get cut with no ramifications

    *************************

    No doubt, and I wouldn’t be suprised if his agent had to tell him, that Jamarcus was too deep in denial to realize it himself.

    I’m ready to bench him, take a look at Frye and Bruce in coming weeks (really what do we have to lose), and bring in a rookie QB or Vick.

    But he should get one more off-season, one more chance to win over his teammates with hard-work, dedication and most importantly on-field improvement. Restructuring his contract would be a good first-step to his organization and teammates.

  225. M Lonetree Says:

    Rockstar,

    I thought of Lal as well as he has no credentials nor abilities to do anything with a football team.

  226. Raider O Says:

    I thought Barnes was going to be a good RT. Shows you how much I know. I thought:
    1- F Joseph was going to make the team.
    2- Huff was done.
    3- Cable can motivate the team.
    4- JR will throw for 3k+, 20 TDs, 11 Ints, and over 55% cmp rate.
    5- we would be in the top 10 in rushing.

  227. Roch R Says:

    How big of a slap in the face was the first series of yesterday’s game?

    A blown call by the refs on Z Miller leads to a INT. Then SD comes right back and goes vertical, Al Davis football to get deep in the Red Zone, then throws a gimmick play at us for Tomlinson to score the TD.

    Imagine being in Al Davis’s shoes and watching that unfold. I would want to puke seeing SD serve up a hot steaming dish of Raider football right in our face.

    Kudos to the heart of this Raiders team for being professional and making the game competitive.

    And I have to admit I was sure glad Fargas was out there running the rock for us. You can’t say enough about the heart that guy brings to this team.

  228. Larz Says:

    Bradshaw became a starter one year after he was drafted in 1970. During his first several seasons, the 6′3″, 215 lb. quarterback was erratic, threw many interceptions (he threw 210 interceptions over the course of his career) and was widely ridiculed by the media for his rural roots and perceived lack of intelligence.

    It took Bradshaw a few seasons to adjust to the pro game but once he did, he eventually became the premier quarterback in the NFL, leading the Pittsburgh Steelers to eight AFC Central championships and an unprecedented collection of Super Bowl rings. The Pittsburgh Steelers featured the “Steel Curtain” defense and a powerful running attack led by Franco Harris, but Bradshaw’s strong arm gave them the threat of the deep pass, helping to loosen opposing defenses. In 1972, he threw the pass leading to the “Immaculate Reception”, among the most famous plays in NFL history.

    Bradshaw temporarily lost the starting job to Joe Gilliam in 1974, but Bradshaw took over again during the regular season

  229. vegas raider Says:

    JHill,

    Rivers would never thrown the pass! Show me when Rivers threw a ball up yesterday where there was 3 or 4 Raiders right around the ball. Never happened.

    Terrible decision by Jamarcus. We could have got bailed out with a call, but that’s all it would have been, a bailout.

    By my count the guy has 8 turnovers in the first quarter, about the same amount he has in the other 3 quarters. He is blowing the games at the beginning with awful decisions. Cable too for that matter, but the guy will throw away passes on 3rd down and threw balls up for grabs on 1st downs. That’s not coaching, that’s football 101.

  230. vegas raider Says:

    Larz,

    You can have Bradshaw, and I will give you a hundred other QB’s who sucked at the beginning, and continued to suck until they were out of the league.

  231. raidertay Says:

    I do believe that Al is picking the top picks. How can the top picks be so bad and the second day picks be so stellar. Rounds 3-6 have been very good to the Raiders over the past few years.

  232. M Lonetree Says:

    Larz,

    So Joe Gilliam ended up strung out living under an overpass sleeping on cardboard while Bradshaw is a famous talking head. Is there a lesson in any of it which pertains to the present-day Raiders?

  233. raidertay Says:

    I know those WRs tripped over each other, but did anyone else see the SD DB push them into each other??

  234. Larz Says:

    A incomplete pass in the forth qtr.

    Russell is rolling out and is hit in the ribs by one of the charger LB just as he is throwing the ball.

    With both feet off the ground and falling backwards he throws a 20 yard laser that is caught but the WR can’t get his foot down.

    Maybe only 2 or 3 guys on the planet can do that.

    I say we let this guy mature keep the offense simple and get some of our weapons back.

    Schilens and Miller were his top targets in preseason.

    Get McFadden and Gallery back, it may take another year but don’t think he’s not throwing to the WR because he can’t get it there.

    They are not open.

  235. raidertay Says:

    Agree RR,

    The Raiders shouldnt go anywhere near the 1st round. Thats why I liked when they traded their first for Seymore.

  236. Raider O Says:

    I agree with Larz on posts 229 & 232.

  237. Larz Says:

    WRs run slot routes too.

    So why is it that ZM is the only guy getting looks.

    Because the WRs are just as ineffective in the slot as they are outside the hash.

    Otherwise just like ZM they would have some catches.
    This he “doesn’t see the feild” myth is laughable.

    He sees ZM just fine.
    The interception was a bad deciscion but did anyone notice that the WR cut his route late across ZM, thats why there was 3 chargers in the area.

    That triple coverage was caused by poor route running and a hold that wasn’t called.

    I agree we should not be calling or throwing those plays at that stage of the game with these WR.

    But let’s watch the game.

  238. RaiderRockstar Says:

    How can the top picks be so bad and the second day picks be so stellar. Rounds 3-6 have been very good to the Raiders over the past few years

    ***

    trade our 1st rounder for Kevin Kolb and our 2nd rounder for more picks in the 3rd & 4th …

    draft an entirely new o-line in the 3rd & 4th rounds if we can’t get some steady vets in free agency. Guys like Jon Runyan, Levi Jones or Mark Tauscher. Not guys like Kwame Harris, Khalif Barnes & Cornell Green. those clowns have NEVER been good!

  239. raidertay Says:

    Well, the media has handed Al a perfect excuse if he decides that he wants to make a coaching change at the end of the year. Even though Im not so sure that that would help or set us back even further. Any chance of us getting Jim Harbaugh? or Gruden?

  240. vegas raider Says:

    Don’t mean to be so negative fella’s, but Jamarcus is awful. I wear his jersey every week, did so yesterday, and root hard for the guy.

    I think he just doesn’t have it. Maybe he will get “it”, but I don’t see much to grasp onto. It is going to take a special type of dude to turn this around, and we may never find it with Al at the helm. But I feel safe to say it ain’t Jamarcus Russell.

    Got to run, got to practice my presentation for my company’s grand opening tomorrow. Supposedly Harry Reid himself is supposed to attend. I told management that it might be bad for business, but we shall see.

    Hey good job Matt Shannessey!!!

    later

  241. Roch R Says:

    You have to know that starting to rookie WR’s is an indication that this year has always been a building year.

    Larz is right, patience is the right call right now, but man it’s tough to watch.

    I hope JaMarcus has his off season plan in place, because next year is do or be cut for him.

    I wonder who plan B will be next year for the Raiders? It would be true to Raider form for talk of Vick in oakland to surface. I wouldn’t be surprised, fact is he’s wilting in Philly, there’s no way McNabb is going to let Vick gain any traction.

    JaMarcus had better get it this year and come in to camp in great shape.

    And we definitely need to draft D this year, preferably inside LB in the early rounds.

  242. new englandraider Says:

    hey anyone see alston lined up on the wrong side of the ball? was that jr’s fault as well? russell was ok yesterday. not bad. and when routt blitzed (jackson td) our fs which was eugene at the time probably had the assignment of covering jackson. play mitchell over eugene period fs ss whatever. give him a chance. mitchell was out there 4 kick returns only. while eugene was out there when we were kicking off. allow me to quote the 25th letter of the alphabet…. YYYYYYYYY?hopefully we get a few pieces back after the bye. i.e. chaz gallery. even moving brach to nickle cb and let huff and mitchell play S wouldn’t be a bad idea.

  243. angelodebo Says:

    Wheres Vegas…Hey ..remember I said that Crabtree would triple Heyward-Bey’s production with half a season?

    Two games into his career: Crabtree
    11 rec 137 yds 0 TD

    Eight Games into his career: Bey
    5 rec 74 yds 0 TD

    This isn’t going to be close Vegas. He’s almost doubled in every category after two frikn games!

  244. UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER Says:

    “They have a lot of fans at our games and it kind of rubbed me the wrong way when I first got here,” Tomlinson said. “I wanted to make sure I did everything possible to make sure their fans went home unhappy.”

    =============

    THERE WAS ONE LESS YESTERDAY. I HAVE BEEN TO ALL THE LOSSES EXCEPT FOR YESTERDAY. I JUST COULDN’T DO IT. NOT BECAUSE OF THE ECONOMY I JUST COULDN’T SEE GOING THERE AND SEEING ALL THOSE PUKE AZZ BABY BLUE CHARGER FANS. I WENT TO OAKLAND FOR THE OPENING MONDAY NIGHT GAME JUST KNOWING THE RAIDERS WOULD FINALLY SNAP THE LOSING STREAK.

    MAN I HATE LIVING IN THE S.D. AREA.

    I THINK NEXT YEAR THE RAIDERS SHOULD DRAFT AN IMOBILE QB AND SOME FAST DB’S DIE AL DAVIS DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  245. RaiderRockstar Says:

    NE: you’re right Alston & Eugene are terrible football players and should NEVER be starting …

    Cable doesn’t trust Huff as a tackler and Ricky Brown (starter at SLB) is injured. Routt is an awful nickel corner too!

    of course you can’t blame thier play on Russell, but the fact of the matter is, this team will only go as far as Cable & Russell take it. The defense & running game, even as bad as they’ve been at times, are still the strengths of this team

  246. new englandraider Says:

    wishing death upon davis is not cool man. maybe we’d all like to see him but out, but this fugged up shyt about die al die is just stupid. wtf is wrong with you people? if any of you have experienced losing a loved one, you’d know wtf im talking about. im just as sick of the losing as all of you, but davis shytting the bed is NOT going to help.

  247. Raider O Says:

    ULE,

    I live in SD too( Oak Park), so I feel your anger & pain.

  248. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    Does anybody know when The Raider Image, will have available the limited edition black “Tom Cable Wive Beater Tank Top.”??????

  249. UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER Says:

    new englandraider Says:
    November 2nd, 2009 at 9:36 am
    hey anyone see alston lined up on the wrong side of the ball? was that jr’s fault as well? russell was ok yesterday. not bad. and when routt blitzed (jackson td) our fs which was eugene at the time probably had the assignment of covering jackson. play mitchell over eugene period fs ss whatever. give him a chance. mitchell was out there 4 kick returns only. while eugene was out there when we were kicking off. allow me to quote the 25th letter of the alphabet…. YYYYYYYYY?hopefully we get a few pieces back after the bye. i.e. chaz gallery. even moving brach to nickle cb and let huff and mitchell play S wouldn’t be a bad idea.

    ===================

    Did you see when we ran the ball on 3rd and 6

    did you see when the ball was one hopped to murphy on 3rd down.

    did you see when z.miller was overthrown for a int.

    did you see when murphy caught the ball on the sideline out of bounds because he had NO CHANCE OF GETTING THE BOTHE FEET DOWN.

    DID YOU SEE WHEN WE WENT FOR THE FIELD GOAL WITH 11 SECONDS LEFT ON THE 35 INSTEAD OF TAKING A SHOT WITH A NUMBER ONE OVERALL PICK WITH A ROCKET ARM. IF IT’S INCOMPLETE THEN WE COULD KICK THE FIELD GOAL.

    CABLE HAD TO PLAY LIKE A HIGH SCHOOL COACH YESTERDAY BECAUSE OF RUSSEL !!!!!!!!!!!!

  250. new englandraider Says:

    rockstar, i actually think huff has improved immensely. tackling is ok, but a lot better than the last 2 years. even huff played a little cb at tex. i say on 3rd down we go with a 3 S set. let either huff of branch cover and let mitchell start unloading on people.

  251. JB Says:

    “I did a pretty good job,” Russell told reporters.
    *************************

    This moron doesn’t have a clue. He must be brain-dead. AD better plan on drafting another QB next year or bring in a free agent. JR will NEVER be an NFL caliber QB. He’s simply not smart enough; he’s unwilling to do the necessary level of preparation required of an NFL QB; he’s unable to come in at an acceptable weight (i.e. 250# or less) and unable to master basic footwork. Add to that, his inability to learn the entire playbook and to go through the entire rotation of available receivers. He locks on to one receiver and that’s it. He can’t, for whatever reasons, visualize the entire field. Given this limitation, all formations should have all the receivers on the same side of the field so he can see therm.

    IMO, AD should cut his losses on JR and move on. I’d even accept AD bringing back Andrew Walter to try out once again. I don’t feel he received a legitimate chance to show us his stuff. His arm is strong & he’s accurate with touch – something totally unattainable for JR. I’ve also had it with Cable. He’s simply over his head and will not succeed at HC. Go hire Gruden back. Pay him whatever he wants and don’t get in his way. A long term deal would be good for the team.

    Lastly, go get Rankin back for the #3 RB position. Move Dmac permanently to slot receiver. He can be our Welker.

  252. Raider O Says:

    ULE,

    I saw Rivers throwing the same balls, but his WRs made plays.

    Not All QBs are PM & DB. Those 2 are the most accurate passers in the NFL!

  253. UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER Says:

    Raider O Says:
    November 2nd, 2009 at 9:50 am
    ULE,

    I live in SD too( Oak Park), so I feel your anger & pain.
    ============

    i live in the desert EL CENTRO an hour and 10 minutes i should of went yesterday i felt like a trader my wife was asking me all week about going she just knew i would go at the end. i couldn’t do it man.

  254. Dakota Says:

    Speaking of wife-beater:

    http://www.tshirtwatch.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/keeley-hazell-wife-beater.jpg

  255. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    **wiFe** errrrrrr….

  256. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    Dakota…#254..

    Nice! I’ll take two..lol..

  257. new englandraider Says:

    locomotive, i never said jr was the perfect qb. being here in n.e. i watch some of the stupid patriots. brady misses just as badly as russell does. not comparing the two at all. no qb is 100% accurate. and yes i did see everything you mentioned. ive been paying close to $400 for sunday ticket, superfan etc. havent missed a game in 15 yrs. the miller play was NOT jr’s fault. and at the time i agreed with taking the 3 pts.they had 0 time outs and if he is sacked or the receiver cant get out of bounds, then we get nothing. it taked 15-18 seconds to get your fg unit out there. 11 seconds not enough time.

  258. Raider O Says:

    ULE,

    I understand dude. I didn’t go, and I’m not going to attend till they fix these issues. I’m not paying hard earned money to watch that level of play.

  259. DMAC Says:

    Can anyone explain to me why Nnamdi doesn’t cover the oppossing’s team best WR the entire game??????

  260. UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER Says:

    new englandraider Says:
    November 2nd, 2009 at 10:04 am
    locomotive, i never said jr was the perfect qb. being here in n.e. i watch some of the stupid patriots. brady misses just as badly as russell does. not comparing the two at all. no qb is 100% accurate. and yes i did see everything you mentioned. ive been paying close to $400 for sunday ticket, superfan etc. havent missed a game in 15 yrs. the miller play was NOT jr’s fault. and at the time i agreed with taking the 3 pts.they had 0 time outs and if he is sacked or the receiver cant get out of bounds, then we get nothing. it taked 15-18 seconds to get your fg unit out there. 11 seconds not enough time.
    =========================

    yeah me to with that sunday ticket.

    russell has no work ethic he’s lazy and unmotivated he has infected the rest of the team. i know they are pro’s and they should be above that. but it’s hard to believe that when they see russell they already know there doomed and they act and play accordingly.

    i’m going to say something i never thought i would say because i can’t stand phillip rivers.

    In my heart of heart’s i think if you flipped quarterbacks yesterday the raiders would have won.

  261. UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER Says:

    Can anyone explain to me why Nnamdi doesn’t cover the oppossing’s team best WR the entire game??????

    ==============================

    and that’s the bottom line because al davis said so.

  262. morilla Says:

    No pocket presence, slow as Rosie O’donnell , bad mechanics, horrible accuracy , inable to complete passes when he is under center and drops back, arrogant, no work ethic, no leadership qualities, looks like a bandaged marshmallow in a uniform, 4th grade education….

    It’s over, he is done. There is a new Ryan Leaf in town.

  263. Chris in NY Says:

    Crabtree is going to be a decent NFL player but not a Hall of Famer. At best he is the second coming of Keyshawn Johnson. He’s a little smaller than Keyshawn, I believe. Not as physical. But great hands and should be a reliable chain mover.

    After watching them both I’ve got to say that DHB still has the higher upside, but he’s EXTREMELY far away from fulfilling that potential and will probably never surpass Crabtree as a player.

    DHB has to learn how to catch. Not just grab the ball when it hits him in the hands, but catch it on the run and maintain his speed rather than coming to a halt and stopping for 2 seconds to make sure he has it secured. That’s a huge difference between DHB and Crabtree. Crabtree snatches the ball out of mid-air on the run and can get some yards after the catch. DHB has to come to a full stop and catch the ball against his body. By the time he as it secured he is being tackled and his speed is worthless.

  264. Chris in NY Says:

    I am 90% sure that INT pass was intended for Murphy who fell down while the ball was in mid-air. The announcers said it was for Miller but if you watch the replay it was right on line for Murphy before he fell down.

    Dick Enberg is like 100 years old and was off on his calls for much of the game. So don’t be so sure the pass was for Miller just because he said so.

    Aside from that, more Keystone Cops action out there with two receivers running into the same exact spot on the field. And then one of them falling down.

    With all that said JaMarcus never should have thrown that pass there with only 2 receivers and I think 4 or 5 defenders all within a few yards of the pass.

  265. DMAC Says:

    If Nnamdi would have covered Vincent Jackson the entire game, I’m pretty sure he wouldn’t have looked like a pro bowler yesterday and the Raiders would have probably won.

  266. Dakota Says:

    Well Cable, at least now when you get fired you will have a job with the Cincinnati Bengals fo sho!

    Please take the woman beater C. Green with you!

  267. new englandraider Says:

    i would love to see jon gruden back here. he is a raider and always will be. im sure you guys see that on the few occasions when russell has time to set feet, step up and throw a dart, he is not as bad as we would like to think. problem is whenever he throws a laser if its not to zm, its a drop. period. just like last year, he would constantly find an open ronald curry fire the ball and what happens, DROP. then the announcers say. oh he’s throwing the ball too hard. are you freaking kidding me? when he tries to loft the ball, he is very inaccurate. i agree. they are not giving him the best chance to succeed right now. too many deep routes. great game by matt s. and jano is dead on balls accurate. if we weren’t so bad, he and lechler both would be pro bowlers

  268. Dakota Says:

    DMAC Says:
    November 2nd, 2009 at 10:16 am
    If Nnamdi would have covered Vincent Jackson the entire game, I’m pretty sure he wouldn’t have looked like a pro bowler yesterday and the Raiders would have probably won.
    ______________________________

    Most Al Davis ball suckers just claim it is too hard for Nnamdi to be placed on one receiver…too difficult for him to switch sides of the field lol.

    Guess they don’t think Nnamdi is good enough…

  269. DMAC Says:

    Does anyone know why Russell didn’t play yesterday?

  270. Dakota Says:

    New Englandraider,

    I didn’t get to see that game, but it looks like they both played well.

    Friday shows that we have some kinks to iron out, but I am sure they will be just fine after a month or two of playing together.

  271. Dakota Says:

    DMAC Says:
    November 2nd, 2009 at 10:21 am
    Does anyone know why (Gary) Russell didn’t play yesterday?
    ___________________________

    Because he was taken into protective custody for a psych evaluation after claiming the Raiders had more talent than the Steelers?

  272. new englandraider Says:

    hey dakota, kobe, and drew looked pretty damn good last night

  273. Dakota Says:

    I think Gary did play for a while…he is in the box score as having recovered a fumble!

  274. DMAC Says:

    gary

  275. JaMarcus Russell is clueless Says:

    [...] Following his 109-yard passing day in a 21-16 loss to the Chargers on Sunday, Raiders quarterback JaMarcus Russell thought that he did a “pretty good job.” [...]

  276. Dakota Says:

    Gruden back with the Raiders? Man, he would be recruiting every QB in North America to come in and run his offense.

    No way in HELL Russell could EVER learn and run Gruden’s offense.

    NEVER…therefore Al will not re-hire Gruden. Al will try and save face with Russell for at least one more year.

  277. new englandraider Says:

    gruss did dress and was on field for the 1st couple plays. mosta got hurt or did something stupid and got benched. this stupid blog suxxxxxxxx. you’re posting your comments too quickly. yeah, especially when im going back to the future to post them

  278. Chris in NY Says:

    I’m so sick and tired of watching lousy QB play. Russell, Walter, McCown, Culpepper, Tui, Aaron Brooks and even Kerry Collins (not as bad as the others but still). These are the QBs who have taken the field for us during this atrocious run. Think that may have something to do with the fact we are destined for a 7th straight season of double-digit losses?

  279. new englandraider Says:

    hey chris, dont 4get donald hollas

  280. Chris in NY Says:

    G Russell was the one who caused Sproles’ fumble on the punt. So he was OK to play well into that game. Guess Cable just likes Lawton better at FB.

  281. Chris in NY Says:

    Al has to consider bringing Gruden back. I know it would be bittersweet for him, because if the Raiders turn it around under Gruden, Gruden will get most of the credit. But it’s got to be better than being the laughingstock of the decade.

    Al discovered Gruden to begin with, he can always hang his hat on that. And if Gruden did turn it around it would surely be with a bunch of players Al drafted before Gruden ever got here.

    Gruden or Fassel. Those are my two choices.

    Cable or Gilbride. That’s who we’ll be stuck with.

  282. DMAC Says:

    Don’t forget Rick Mirer

  283. new englandraider Says:

    dakota. it was very close we were up 74-70 and went on and 18-0 run. once we get pau back, we will be ok. i dont see us winning as many as last year, but we will win the 16 games that matter and claim title # 16. im all fugged up dakota. im on the wrong side of the country here. but i love my lakers and raiders man. rick mirer lmfao

  284. Dakota Says:

    Al’s offseason of fun:

    Mistake #1 Rehiring Tom Cable (even over guys like Fassel and Gilbride)

    Mistake #2 Signing Barnes as an option for tackle instead of looking at the draft

    Mistake #3 Trading for Satele instead of signing FA center Jason Brown

    Mistake #4 Drafting DHB over Monroe in Round 1

    Mistake #5 Drafting Mike Youtube Mitchell over a DT, LB, C, or T in Round 2

    Mistake #6 Hiring Marshall as DC….almost always has a bottom 3rd run D

    Mistake #7 Not hiring an OC

    Mistake #8 Not firing himself as GM before making mistakes 1-7

  285. DMAC Says:

    As much as I like Kirk, I really think we need that run stuffing Middle LB. Kirk is better suited for Outside LB.

  286. JaMarcus Russell is clueless | Football Picks Says:

    [...] Following his 109-yard passing day in a 21-16 loss to the Chargers on Sunday, Raiders quarterback JaMarcus Russell thought that he did a “pretty good job.” [...]

  287. DMAC Says:

    How about Jay Schraeder???? My favorite!

  288. ldynblk26 Says:

    I’m still DISGUSTED these Raiders have no Freakin HEART! maybe a handful thts it ! The rest Especially YOU! J RUSSELL u r supposedly be the LEADER all u r is just a QB w/ alot of money that can’t or better yet WONT give it your ALL.Damn GET YOUR CRAP together ALREADY!!!!!

  289. ldynblk26 Says:

    BUNCH OF OVERPAID SISSYS!!!!!

  290. new englandraider Says:

    we had rob johnson for a little while to. hollas was b4 gannon, but he was the worst. whats ole vice evans up to? wade wilson anyone?

  291. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Kirk Morrison played WLB as a rookie, not SLB … now we’ve got Thomas Howard there

  292. ldynblk26 Says:

    GIVE US FANS A PIECE OF THE PIE I BET EVEN WE COULD WIN A GAME OR TWO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  293. new englandraider Says:

    i agree dmac i do like kirk myself, but if i remember correctly he was a slb and we cut danny clark to start rookie morrison at mlb. if we had a ray lewis, patrick willis type mlb, morrisonand howard would lokk a helluva lot better. we dont have anyone on d that hits hard. every once in a while cj will level someone but thats it.

  294. new englandraider Says:

    wow, my spelling is off today. damn maybe i should stop poking smot

  295. new englandraider Says:

    i was happy when we signed napoleon harris in august. we cut him 8 days later. he was pretty damn good. jay schroeder. lol. wow man we have had some of the worst qb ever. even gannon wasnt a great qb. he had brown rice and got the best out of jerry porter than anyone. if jr had any of those guys he might be ok. porter looked great early in his career. now he cant find a job. bad attitude. i really thought he was gonna be great

  296. DMAC Says:

    When we had Biekert and later Clark in the middle the run D wasn’t 2 bad.

  297. Dakota Says:

    I remember the Jim Lachey trade for Jay Schroeder…I was about 14 years old and I remember my Dad (a Bears fan) making fun of the Raiders for making the trade. I told him Schroeder was awesome and could throw the ball almost 100 yards!

    My excuse for defending Al back then was that I was only 14…

  298. new englandraider Says:

    schroeder drops back… lookin deep… he’s got swervyn mervyn fernandez… TOUCHDOWN RRRRRRAAAAAIIIIDEERRRRRRRRRRRSSSSSSSSSSS.

  299. DMAC Says:

    Jay Schroeder RULES!!!!!!!

  300. Dakota Says:

    Biekert was great. That dude couldn’t cover many people, but he sure as hell could stop the run.

    I remember that Raiders-Colts game where Beikert was yelling out Manning’s plays as Manning was audibling lol. We came back from a big first-half deficit thanks primarily to his play spotting.

    We need leaders and workers like that…

  301. RaiderRockstar Says:

    you know what is sad?

    90 percent of Raider fans could draft better than Al Davis with no scouting dept… and find guys in free agency

    and a fan would obviously let the coaches do thier jobs (unless the fan had tons of prior head coaching experience – doubtful)

    Mark & Carol Davis should auction the GM job to a fan and roll the dice. It’d be a good PR move, haha

  302. Roch R Says:

    Ha Ol Lefty!! Schroeder, don’t forget the other pre-mature balding QB Jeff George.

  303. new englandraider Says:

    yeah im only 31 man babe parilli? my pops talks a lot about the old raiders, but he is 50. not 60 or 70. babe parilli huh? was he a qb?

  304. El Tato Says:

    2010 FA QB’s:

    Jason Campbell, Washington Redskins (27)
    Kyle Orton, Denver Broncos (26)
    Chad Pennington, Miami Dolphins (33)
    Charlie Batch, Pittsburgh Steelers (34)
    Kyle Boller, St. Louis Rams (28)
    David Carr, New York Giants (30)
    Kellen Clemens, New York Jets (26)
    Daunte Culpepper, Detroit Lions (32)
    Rex Grossman, Houston Texans (29)
    Joey Harrington, New Orleans Saints (30)
    Tarvaris Jackson, Minnesota Vikings (26)
    Jon Kitna, Dallas Cowboys (36)
    Matt Moore, Carolina Panthers (25) – RFA
    Patrick Ramsey, Tennessee Titans (30)
    Brett Ratliff, Cleveland Browns (24) – ERFA
    Troy Smith, Baltimore Ravens (25) – RFA

  305. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Babe Parilli RULES!!!!!!!

    any 60 or 70 year old Raider fans remember him?

  306. DMAC Says:

    Imagine a Urlacher, Lewis, or Willis plugging the middle. Wow that would be great.

  307. DMAC Says:

    Sorry I’m a 80’s baby.

  308. DMAC Says:

    I’ll take Kitna!

  309. RaiderRockstar Says:

    El Tato, thanks for the list brother

    sign Chad Pennington. most accurate QB in the league!

    …just injury prone with a noodle arm

  310. new englandraider Says:

    wow all this talk of great raider qbs, who could 4get about billy jo hobert or todd HEROINavich

  311. Roch R Says:

    I vote for Troy Smith, fact is the Raiders need their next journeyman turned Pro Bowler QB a la Gannon, fact is we won’t draft a QB.

    I wonder if AD isn’t fooled by the big time College media, which is why our top picks are always busts, and we do well later in the draft.

  312. El Tato Says:

    Maybe we should try with Troy Smith, after all he was better than J-Russell in College

  313. new englandraider Says:

    87 for 187 even jr is better than that

  314. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Tom Flores and Babe Parilli shared the QB duties for the Raiders in their first season of 1960. Flores ended the season with 136 completions in 252 attempts for 1,738 yards, 12 TDs, and 12 INTs. Parilli ended the season with 87 completions in 187 attempts for 1,003 yards, 5 TDs, and 11 INTs.

  315. DMAC Says:

    I remember that game Dakota. Biekert was the man.

  316. El Tato Says:

    Yeah, after years of watching big arm QB’s with no accuracy (say Russell, Culpepper, Collins,…) maybe we should try with somebody like Pennington, he is accurate as hell, and because he is always injured and is old he will be cheap

    If he stays healthy, great. If not, he wasn’t expensive

  317. DMAC Says:

    Kitna!

  318. Dakota Says:

    Kitna?

    Nope, Al Davis was VERY impressed with the way David Carr performed against his vaunted man to man D! 9/14 90 yards and 4 rushes for 27 and a TD! Al thinks Carr is the key 2010 free agent! He’ll give Carr a 5 year 57 million dollar deal…and give us a overhead projector breakdown of why he signed Carr…

  319. Dakota Says:

    Al’s backup plan to Carr? Give Kyle Boller $40 million because he could throw the ball from his knees through the uprights from the fifty yard line coming out of college.

  320. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Culpepper! Vertical game, baby! Kitna? What are you guys, Niner fans?

  321. RaiderRockstar Says:

    back in 1960 Al Davis was a 31 year old coach for the Chargers … LOL

  322. El Tato Says:

    Maybe David Carr is seen by Davis as Jim Plunkett II

  323. RaiderRockstar Says:

    Justin Fargas now leads the team in rushing yards again *sigh*

    anybody else notice that?

    how depressing …

  324. new englandraider Says:

    in my opinion, no qb will succeed with this o line, philosophy, wrs. u name it.

  325. new englandraider Says:

    call me a fool, i dont think cj is playing that bad. nnamdi would get burned a few times each game because the opposing qb would stay away from c. woodson. now nnamdi is our best cb so naturally they will frequently test cj. a couple of the times he was burned deep, you always see a late arriving eugene. huff once or twice as well. i think eugene is one of the most lost safeties ever. derrick gibson was good 4 that. having no fuggin idea what his assignment is. ridiculous

  326. Dirty30 Says:

    I don’t think Morrison should be Mike. Sometimes, he is totally obliterated from the play so badly that you can’t even find him on the replay. Khalif Barnes was a total waste of $$. Him & Erik Pears had better start preparing for life after football.

    It is concerning that this debacle should be permitted to continue. Why start 2 boneheaded rookie WRs with a struggling QB? This is exactly what NOT to do. I wouldn’t have any confidence in Murphy or DHB either…especially if Barnes is starting at RT.

    So many people say that “Oakland is the place where careers go to die”. If that is translated as “Oakland is the place where washed up players go to collect one last big paycheck before fading into oblivion”, then that would be correct too. From Ron Stone to Khalif Barnes. At least guys like Newberry show up every week before facing the inevitable. Now we know why Barnes was run out of Jacksonville by the JPD.

  327. los raiders de don rober Says:

    CJ is struggling because we run a 1970’s defense and the QBs are not throwing Nnamdi’s way, so, yeah CJ, Routt, Fabian Washington, Philip Bucanon, or 95% of the CBs in the league are going to struggle with that kinda deal.

  328. DMAC Says:

    I bet Kitna would move the offense much better than Russ right now.

  329. RaiderRockstar Says:

    back to work fellas. later

    carpe diem!

  330. DMAC Says:

    Does anyone know why CJ is struggling? I’m beginning to think he just busted his ass off last season to be rewarded with a nice contract.

  331. DMAC Says:

    I don’t think O’line is the problem. QB and WR’s!

  332. El Tato Says:

    McFadden has 150 yards rushing
    DHB has 5 catches after starting 8 games
    Our QB has 2 TD’s after 8 games
    .
    .
    .
    We are 2-6 AGAIN

    That’s depresing

  333. Dakota Says:

    I can see it now…Oakland 21-KC 13…and the morons come out in droves to declare Al, Cable and Russell VINDICATED!!!!!!

    Suckers…

  334. los raiders de don rober Says:

    Man, Jamarcus takes for ever to throw, you can’t blame the Oline, they give the kid time, but damn he is slow to decide, slow to throw, slow to learn, he’s just slow dammit.

  335. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Chris in NY, Al would have to give Gruden a contract with specific language guaranteeing him the money, and Gruden would probably demand something similar to what he demanded 10 years ago. Al can’t just hire Gruden. Gruden has to agree to coach here. If you guys think Gruden is going to coach here on the cheap and be a scapegoat, think again.

  336. los raiders de don rober Says:

    I think Al Davis is gonna start having interviews for a GM. Matt Millen is already working on his 40 time!use that stop watch baby!

  337. El Tato Says:

    Ryan Mallett can throw the football 80 yards dowfield

    2011 Raiders QB: Ryan Mallett

  338. Kirk Says:

    Bring back Gruden. He is the best coach we have had in the last 20 years. And stop letting Al make draft picks. He doesn’t have a clue.

  339. new englandraider Says:

    tato, when our schedule was released, i couldnt see us being better than a 6-7 win team if all went well. we now know all aint well. all we can hope for in the 2nd half is to get healthy and see if we can progress a little.

  340. DMAC Says:

    True Rober, but CJ isn’t playing as well as last year.

  341. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Kirk, explain to me how we “bring back Gruden”? Do we wave a magic wand? Does Al just sit there from his thrown, “Bring me Gruden, at once”. How does this work? The last I checked Al would have to sign Gruden to a contract, to terms that Gruden would agree with. The discussion is not rather we need Gruden. A 3 year old knows that (which says something about priest, AlisGod, and Oakglenn). The discussion is rather or not Al is going to give Gruden a contract that’s a) competitive, and b) guarantees him the money, in other words, doesn’t have language like “Raider Tradition” that lets Al fire him for cause.

  342. Dirty30 Says:

    “Bring me Gruden, at once”
    lol. Thanx, TRMR. I needed a laugh! The image of Al sitting on a throne with a sceptre & crown, being fed grapes by Raiderettes & exclaiming “Bring mr Gruden, at once!” to Hererra (dressed in a Jester outfit) made me laugh. In fact, I am still chortling to myself as I am typing this right now.

    lol

  343. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    throne, not “thrown”. Go ahead, my stalkers, eat that one right up.

  344. bank-bank Says:

    Wake Up!!!!!Great Raider Fans of America,this is Al Davis showing us what-Nothing,He’s scamming us with what he’s putting on the football field for us to buy.Well,Im not buying that garbage and neither should you.I can’t believe he’s trying to sell that B.S.that’s on the football field every week.My Thanksgiving Dinner is RUINED because Al Davis is going to show his product to the world and the thought of that make me want to VOMIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  345. morilla Says:

    and stop using Bush when Fargas is on a streak. Bush looks like he is in slow motion when hitting the holes. Cable blows my mind sometimes, they have something working then, BAM! Let’s completely f-k up the momentum of the drive and put in a walrus with a helmet on. That dude just lumbers into the line. Keep Fargas as the #1

  346. Silver-n-Smac Says:

    # The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    November 2nd, 2009 at 11:32 am

    Kirk, explain to me how we “bring back Gruden”? Do we wave a magic wand? Does Al just sit there from his thrown, “Bring me Gruden, at once”. How does this work? The last I checked Al would have to sign Gruden to a contract, to terms that Gruden would agree with. The discussion is not rather we need Gruden. A 3 year old knows that (which says something about priest, AlisGod, and Oakglenn). The discussion is rather or not Al is going to give Gruden a contract that’s a) competitive, and b) guarantees him the money, in other words, doesn’t have language like “Raider Tradition” that lets Al fire him for cause.

    *************************************

    Madden:

    I agree with you on this one. Gruden will never coach the Raiders again. I wish he would, but, there are a bunch of reasons why I don’t believe it would happen.

    I really wish it would. It was a perfect marriage.

    Gruden was good for Al and Al was good for Gruden. The horrible personnel moves Bruce Allen & Gruden made in Tampa is proof of the latter. And the 6 plus years of crap we’ve seen out of our Raiders is proof of the former.

    The sad reality is that both of these men have pretty large egos and they simply clashed. I think Gruden started reading his own press clippings and Al had a tough time anyone other than the “logo” being larger than life.

  347. morilla Says:

    If Gruden is to go anywhere it would be to San Diego ( if they the Chargers do what they do best and implode again this year.) Or to Washington, he is never coming back to Oakland.

  348. El Tato Says:

    I had us winning 3 games by this time. KC,DEN and another 1 (NYJ or HOU) but I had us winning

    I also had us as a 6-7 win team, but I had wins on both KC games, at least one with Denver, Cincy too,… but Denver is strong now and Cincy too

    We have to win KC, Cleveland and Redskins at home, there we have our 5 wins season again

  349. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Silver n Smac,

    Gruden’s moves in Tampa raised question marks, but to compare his management, even in the slightest, to Al Davis’s?

    Next.

  350. Silver-n-Smac Says:

    Madden: First of all, Gruden is not a manager, so we can’t even have a conversation about comparing the two in that regard.

    Gruden is a football coach and that’s all. A damned good football coach. He shouldn’t pretend to know talent because he doesn’t. And I don’t really care for his play-call style. But, as I said, I love him as my head coach.

    In my opinion, this team doesn’t need any kind of completel overhaul to fix. They’ve already done that.

    What has to happen is for the 4 or 5 young offensive players that we have to develop into real players.

    If that happens (sure, it’s a big “if”), then we’ll succeed again and Al Davis should deserve credit.

    If that does NOT happen, then he will deserve the criticism that comes his way.

    But, if you just look at this offensive roster, the skill positions are simply too young across the board. Simple as that.

  351. Trolls 35 Raiders 0 Says:

    I :cool: can’t believe how calm you rader fans :oops: are :?: If my :cool: team was going through the embarassment :oops: that your :oops: team is, I :cool: would burn the owner’s :evil: house down :lol:

    BTW, did I :cool: mention that I :cool: saw Dokie :mrgreen: Williams panhandling at the local Walmart :?:

  352. DMAC Says:

    (not in order)
    Billy Joe Hobert
    Jay Schreoder
    Vince Evans
    Todd Maranovich
    Andrew Walter
    Tui
    Aaron Brooks
    Jeff Hosteler
    Rick Mirer
    Kerry Collins
    Jeff George
    McCown, Russell…………………………………………and the list goes on

  353. new englandraider Says:

    well gentlemen, you all enjoy the day wherever you may be. see y’all 2moro

  354. Roch R Says:

    Anyone else notice that when JR throws, it looks like a fade away jump shot??

  355. Trolls 35 Raiders 0 Says:

    My :cool: favorite team this week (the bye) will even shut your raders :oops: this week :lol:

  356. raiderdav Says:

    where is JAVON WALKEr? like I said if they really are into developing Jawalrus why didnt they sign a proven veteran receiver, JERRY PORTER is not working or MArvin Harisson?

  357. bank-bank Says:

    Gruden coming back,forget about it.Al undermined Gruden then and Al will do it again.Would you come back to this Al Davis ran institution that’s spiralling downward.I dont think so.He’s the reason no great coach wants to coach here.They dont want to be the next Sucker.

  358. El Tato Says:

    I don’t undrstand the Javon Walker situation either, especially when we have the worst WR starting unit in the league

    We need Schilens back, that was a huge loss

  359. morilla Says:

    Schilens will not help JaBlubberBust. It’s over. The only area on the field where tons of fun is accurate is in the middle 10-12 yards downfield. That’s it. Not even a talented vet can salvage those passes he chucks.

  360. Roch R Says:

    I came to a funny realization yesterday, I used to hope for wins, analyse the match up and evaluate what our chances were….

    Now I just hope for a first down.

  361. I Guess We’re Setting the Bar Really Low for “Good” « The Slanch Report Says:

    [...] [Contra Costa Times] [...]

  362. KoolKell Says:

    Oh My Gawd!!!

    Cable The Woman Beater!!!!

    omg……………..

  363. Roch R Says:

    The bye week may be what we need for a late season push for repectability and a draft pick that won’t cost millions of guarenteed money. Hopefully with the time off we get key personnel back from Injury. Yes Schillens had great promise in the pre-season and it will be great to see what he can do. But getting Gallery back will be huge. Fact is this team doesn’t have any depth. And most likely best comeback from injury will be Nick Miller. He could be a spark plug for this team.

    Here’s to hoping for better days!

  364. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Silver n Smac,

    You were the one who compared Gruden’s managerial moves to Davis’s. And, it’s an absurd comparison. Whatever you want to call it. Organizing, player personnel, controlling a team…Al Davis is THE WORST ON THE PLANET, end of story. (Detroit got rid of Millen, can’t point to them anymore). Gruden had to juggle the task of keeping Dungy’s old defense in tact (which he actually did a decent job of, most notably by keeping M. Kiffin aboard), and still trying to somewhat draft for offense. He could have done a lot better, obviously. But to even remotely compare Tampa’s situation in recent years to that of the Raiders? You have to be on crack. Tampa won their division in ‘05.

  365. DMAC Says:

    Does anyone think Nick Miller will be on the field as a WR also?

  366. Roch R Says:

    Check out the Slanch Report, I guess $61 Million doesn’t buy style, ha nice shirt JaMarcus. Joseph from the Technicolor Rainbow called, he’d like it back when you’re done.

  367. M Lonetree Says:

    And the fun thing is (Vegas Raider might have the stats at hand), anyone who bet on the Raiders yesterday came away a winner. Not bad at all.

  368. Roch R Says:

    Nick Miller should get a look as a WR, he had a Welker likeness about him in the pre-season.

  369. morilla Says:

    It’s not the lines fault. Have you seen JR’s drop dropbacks? His 3-5 step drops are like watching paint dry. He is entirely to slow getting back there and on top of that he holds on to the ball waaaaaaaaay too long when making his reads.

  370. KoolKell Says:

    Halloween is usually the cutoff date for my football season, check.

    Who’s the next coach?

  371. KoolKell Says:

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    November 2nd, 2009 at 12:22 pm

    Who’s the next coach? Al Davis. We’re not even changing coaches.
    —————————-
    That’s the deal aint it, we aint even changing coaches

    I’m having Rum n coke. ;-)

  372. DMAC Says:

    O-LINE IS NOT THE PROBLEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  373. 909RaiderLifer Says:

    I have a hunch that Yvonne is in Al’s doghouse for having that knee surgery done before camp, and not informing the team (see: Davis, Al) about it.

  374. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    Who’s the next coach? Al Davis. We’re not even changing coaches.

  375. Dakota Says:

    I caught a little OTL on my lunch break. Colleen Dominguez was stationed outside Raiders’ HQ…someone had to come out and ask her why she was even there lol. Told her that there might not even be a Cable press conference today because of the bye week.

    LMFAO

    I’ll bet it was Herrera.

  376. The Real MaddenRaider Says:

    You know what Al Davis needs to realize? We’re seeing a generation of young adult football fans that were not even alive the last time the Raiders won a Super Bowl. That is ancient, archival history to them. It’s completely irrelevant. Al Davis must think that most of his fans are old enough to remember the glory years. To most NFL fans under 30, Al Davis has sucked as long as they can remember, sans that brief Gruden/Gannon era. They have no recollection of the Raiders being dominant. Al Davis, to this generation, is nothing more than a failure and an object of ridicule. There is nothing to be admired. And as time goes on, and more and more young adults become NFL fans and thus Raider fans, this pool only increases, and contrarily, the older fans who acknowledge Al’s glory days die off.

  377. KoolKell Says:

    I PAID $275 DOLLARS FOR MY AUTHENTIC RUSSELL JERSEY AT RAIDER IMAGE ON HEGENBERGER ROAD!!!!!!

    AND IM GONNA WEAR IT TODAY GAWDAMMIT. ;-)

  378. DMAC Says:

    I’m wearing my Schreoder jersey.

  379. Dakota Says:

    I’m still wearing my McFadden PJs.

  380. chappy23us Says:

    Al Davis is the problem!

  381. morilla Says:

    Here you go…
    http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b42/opiate66/bust.jpg

  382. KoolKell Says:

    Well MR, I think, in then end, you got your message across. Despite the abuse.

    I’m having Run n coke this morning.

  383. KoolKell Says:

    Rum n coke, excuse me.

  384. TrueRaider Says:

    Can someone PLEASE explain to me the following:
    1) Why is Asmough getting paid 16 mill a year if he doesnt mirror the best WRs?
    2) Why is Seymour a beast on certain games and disappears on others? Is he another Randy Moss?
    3) Why even keep Russell if you afraid to call a passing play?
    4) Why is Murphy and DHB still playing, JLH and Watkins seems to me a better option?
    5) Why didn’t we blitz Rivers?

    Can someone answer me these questions!!!

  385. Dakota Says:

    Hey Bill Cowher, Mike Shanahan, Jon Gruden, Tony Dungy, Mike Holmgren and Jeff Fisher, if the following jobs became available, which would be the last team you would sign with?

    Bills
    Browns
    Jags
    Titans
    Chargers
    Carolina
    Tampa
    Washington
    Dallas
    Oakland

    All at once…OAKLAND!

    hey Jim Fassel, Dennis Green, and Kevin Gilbride, of that list which team do you think you have the best chance of coaching next year?

    All at once…OAKLAND!

  386. TrueRaider Says:

    Chris Chambers released by the Chargers, Al get him, anyone is better than DHB.

  387. KoolKell Says:

    I’m thinking Fassel, his son works here…… it’s a natural fit.

  388. TrueRaider Says:

    How about this, trade next year 3 round pick for Jeff Fisher, a tough coach who commands respect from his players. I think Al can work with him as long as Fisher is the commanding chief.

  389. DMAC Says:

    Although I hated his teams, I always thought Marty Schot was a good coach.

  390. Richochet Says:

    # TrueRaider Says:
    November 2nd, 2009 at 1:04 pm

    How about this, trade next year 3 round pick for Jeff Fisher, a tough coach who commands respect from his players. I think Al can work with him as long as Fisher is the commanding chief.

    ===============
    Obviously thinking isn’t your forte’.

    Al has proven one thing is set in stone..he can not work with ANYONE.

  391. raiderdav Says:

    http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii195/davpdesign/JamarcusRussell-2-copy.jpg
    i just read CHRIS CHAMBERS got released by the SD CHICKENS we should give him a shot, we got pampered p*ssies playing at WRs so might as well.

  392. DMAC Says:

    Fassel suxxxxxxxx

  393. DMAC Says:

    Yeah, let’s sign Chambers for millions, then keep him on the bench and start DHB and Murphy.

  394. KoolKell Says:

    TrueRaider Says:
    November 2nd, 2009 at 1:04 pm

    How about this, trade next year 3 round pick for Jeff Fisher, a tough coach who commands respect from his players. I think Al can work with him as long as Fisher is the commanding chief.
    —————————-
    What, we already got a woman beater?????????/

    hello…….

  395. Dakota Says:

    Jim Fassel’s resume prior to Al choosing Cable:

    58-53-1 (prior to the 4-12 last season at the giants he had never had a record worse than 7-9), 3 playoff appearances, 1 SB loss.

    Cable’s resume:

    11-35 in college, 4-8 in the NFL, advocated for the signing of Kwame Harris.

    Why are we even talking about Cable this season? He never should have gotten the job…

  396. Richochet Says:

    # DMAC Says:
    November 2nd, 2009 at 1:07 pm

    Although I hated his teams, I always thought Marty Schot was a good coach.
    =======================
    Not sure who hates who more…Al hating Schott, or the other way around.

    We’re not talking dislike, or mutual disgust..we’re talking bonified hate.

    That said..I can see Schott taking the job just to sabotage the organization.

    Wait.

    That’s like saying you’ll take over running the Titanic, so you can sink it to the bottom of the ocean. The bottom is the bottom..can’t go any lower.

    In that case,…forget Schott.

  397. UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER Says:

    morilla Says:
    November 2nd, 2009 at 12:41 pm
    Here you go…
    http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b42/opiate66/bust.jpg

    ============

    roflmao

  398. DarthPirate Says:

    Fire Cable AND Al Davis.

  399. TrueRaider Says:

    Oh God no Fassel, he is a bum just like Cable. Get me a proven winner, I think Shanahan is the best choice, he will at least resurrect Mcfumble and Bush Career and we can once again be a top 10 rushing team. He would also improvise zone blocking scheme that Cable messed it up this year. Also I think he would love to stick it to the Broncos twice a year. Only problem he will want close to 7 mill and other teams will out bid Al like say the Redskins.

  400. TrueRaider Says:

    Did I ask tough questions, no one can answer me?
    Richochet, how about you explain this to me

    *****************************************************
    # TrueRaider Says:
    November 2nd, 2009 at 12:51 pm

    Can someone PLEASE explain to me the following:
    1) Why is Asmough getting paid 16 mill a year if he doesnt mirror the best WRs?
    2) Why is Seymour a beast on certain games and disappears on others? Is he another Randy Moss?
    3) Why even keep Russell if you afraid to call a passing play?
    4) Why is Murphy and DHB still playing, JLH and Watkins seems to me a better option?
    5) Why didn’t we blitz Rivers?

    Can someone answer me these questions!!!

  401. DMAC Says:

    Shanahan still claiming that Big Al owes him $$$$.

  402. Dakota Says:

    TrueRaider…I think we all would rather have Shannyfart over Fassel…but I am trying to keep this discussion somewhere in the realm of reality.

    Shannyfart isn’t coming back to Oakland. Neither is Gruden. Holmgren would want complete control. Cowher would laugh in Al’s face. Fisher and Dungy have too much self respect to sign here.

    You need to lowere your expectations…Thank Fassel, Gilbride or Green, not Cowhere, Gruden and Shanny…but any of those three guys would still be a large step up from The Wife-Beating Buffoon.

  403. Richochet Says:

    Trolls :) :) 35 :) Raiders :) 0 Says::)
    November :) ;) 2nd, 2009 at ;) :) 11:45 am
    ========================
    All your little smileys? Your little desire to put some dopey smiley with every waning thought?
    Reminds me of when my kids turned 8.
    Every little message or email exchanged they did exactly what you did..smiley after smiley after smiley..giggling as they did so..much like you likely do.

    Then they got older, and realized how silly it looked.

    Just like you will…some day.

    Oh..BTW?? you ever notice how you never get any replies to anything you write? You ever consider the fact no one wants to wade through that stupid crap?

    Who knows? Maybe every once in a blue moon you’ll actually say something worth reading..except we’ll never know, will we?
    Your posts scream “I’m a dopey kid”

    Just thought you’d..you know..like to know.

  404. KoolKell Says:

    Dakota

    If you were to see me marching in front of Raiders HQ, which sign would you like to see me carrying?

  405. Dakota Says:

    Let me try that again:

    TrueRaider…I think we all would rather have Shannyfart over Fassel…but I am trying to keep this discussion somewhere in the realm of reality.

    Shannyfart isn’t coming back to Oakland. Neither is Gruden. Holmgren would want complete control. Cowher would laugh in Al’s face. Fisher and Dungy have too much self respect to sign here.

    You need to lower your expectations…Think Fassel, Gilbride or Green, not Cowhere, Gruden and Shanny…but any of those three guys would still be a large step up from The Wife-Beating Buffoon.

  406. Dakota Says:

    KK,

    I would love to see you toting this sign near Raiders’ HQ!

    http://washpost.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/kill-whitey.jpg

    …but if not that one…then maybe one that says, “FUK U AL, HIRE A GM!!!”

  407. TrueRaider Says:

    Dakota

    Ok, how about Urban Meyers, he is a winner, if he wins the national championship this year, that will be 3 rings in his hand, has nothing else to prove except that he can win in the Nfl. I think if Al gives him a chance and a bit more control to implement the Spread offense, he can do wonders for this team what do u think? And since we are talking? Can u answer me this.

    # TrueRaider Says:
    November 2nd, 2009 at 12:51 pm

    Can someone PLEASE explain to me the following:
    1) Why is Asmough getting paid 16 mill a year if he doesnt mirror the best WRs?
    2) Why is Seymour a beast on certain games and disappears on others? Is he another Randy Moss?
    3) Why even keep Russell if you afraid to call a passing play?
    4) Why is Murphy and DHB still playing, JLH and Watkins seems to me a better option?
    5) Why didn’t we blitz Rivers?

    Can someone answer me these questions!!!

  408. KoolKell Says:

    C’mon Dakota.

  409. DMAC Says:

    Hey, True
    Can you say AL?

  410. Crude Earl Says:

    Fassel is a loser…..his kid has taken the Special Teams unit straight downhill….no other NFL team has even considered him….you morons are Pathetic!

  411. DMAC Says:

    Lets hire Zack Crockett for Head Coach!

  412. Dakota Says:

    TrueRaider:

    Urban Meyers? Are you kidding me? Maybe Charlie Weiss once he is fired at ND (hopefully soon), but Urban Myers would never leave Florida for the Raiders!

    The Raiders only pay their HCs about $1-2 million a season! Meyers is making $4 million a year in college and he has absolute and complete control of his team!

    As to your questions, I’ll do my best:

    November 2nd, 2009 at 12:51 pm

    Can someone PLEASE explain to me the following:
    1) Why is Asmough getting paid 16 mill a year if he doesnt mirror the best WRs? A-Because Al will not allow it.

    2) Why is Seymour a beast on certain games and disappears on others? Is he another Randy Moss? A-Seymour is 30 and can’t carry an entire defense…he is often discouraged by the lackluster play of Kelley and the LBs, can you blame him?

    3) Why even keep Russell if you afraid to call a passing play? A-Al wants to prove Kiffin wrong.

    4) Why is Murphy and DHB still playing, JLH and Watkins seems to me a better option? A-Al wants to prove everyone wrong.

    5) Why didn’t we blitz Rivers? A-because Rivers is good at spotting the blitz and would have burned us all day…

  413. Richochet Says:

    # TrueRaider Says:
    November 2nd, 2009 at 1:19 pm

    Did I ask tough questions, no one can answer me?
    Richochet, how about you explain this to me

    *****************************************************
    # TrueRaider Says:
    November 2nd, 2009 at 12:51 pm

    Can someone PLEASE explain to me the following:
    1) Why is Asmough getting paid 16 mill a year if he doesnt mirror the best WRs?
    2) Why is Seymour a beast on certain games and disappears on others? Is he another Randy Moss?
    3) Why even keep Russell if you afraid to call a passing play?
    4) Why is Murphy and DHB still playing, JLH and Watkins seems to me a better option?
    5) Why didn’t we blitz Rivers?

    Can someone answer me these questions!!!
    ==========================
    Al calls the defensive alignments..always has.
    When Cable stated “Once we cleared it and decided to blitz more, we did a good job”..CLEARED IT? Lol..geez..(BTW..that little fact alone will keep any quality HC far away..just the idea the HC admits he has to “CLEAR IT” with the owner prior to calling defensive schemes.

    Seymour? Not a Moss..a syndrome of why players play like Moss did. You can see the dejected look in Seymour as each game goes on…and when he’s matched up against someone he’s confident about, he brings it. When not, he seems to go through the motions. (See comments regarding JR on why his playing gives rest of team the shudders)

    Russell: As players stated, and as everyone knows, Al decided on benching Russell, then informed Cable it was just for that half (hence Cable immediately stating that JR would be starting the following week..ANY OTHER HC would have stated “We’ll look at the tape”..I.E. “I’ll let you know later”..but not Cable..because he already knew. (Who can forget Norv Turner: “We’ve lost 5 in a row. 4 games left and we’re giving Tui his shot for the rest of the year, see what he can do.”.. Al let Norv know “YOU don’t make these decisions, I DO” and promptly overruled him, and put Collins back in, where the team promptly lost the rest of the games.)
    Ego is why JR is in..not money, not draft slot..EGO. Al announced to one and all that Kiffin was WRONG IN HIS COMMENTS ABOUT NOT WANTING TO DRAFT RUSSELL..adding how Jr was ‘going to do great things with the Raiders”.
    Al yanking Russell means he has to eat crow…to the media, the fans, and to his most recent litigant in court, Lance.

    JLH, Watkins, AND Walker are better..but..as above..all Al has read is how dumb his draft choices were, and one thing Al is..is stubborn. He’ll keep in DHB until the cows come home, hoping and praying he’ll have a break out game..and the MOMENT THAT HAPPENS, IF it happens..Al will be front and center, stating how he KNEW IT ALL ALONG..(where, unfortunately for all involved, he’ll go down memory lane on how he almost gave up on Freddy B..lord help us, lol. )

  414. Crude Earl Says:

    Dakota…..do you have any idea what “double teamed” means????

  415. DMAC Says:

    Yesterday’s positive……………
    Shaunessey looks like a real football player.
    Hope he continues to play that way.

  416. morilla Says:

    and Al is only going to get worse. He is old. And I mean like jurassic old. And when people get up there in age they just become more stubborn and irate. NOt to mention senile and delusional. Always thinking that they are right and out to prove that they don’t give a f-k what others think. It’s their world and we are just living in it.

  417. Roch R Says:

    True Raider, Routt came on a corner blitz, worked great for SD. Jackson uncovered = TD.

    We did blitz and it turned out badly.

  418. Vinous Says:

    Come on Jerry – an incident that happened 20 years ago…people do change…and who knows the true circumstances…forget it. A jilted lover will almost always exploit a negative situation…I would expect you to see through this and look for a honest answer to ESPN hack job.

  419. drowningboy Says:

    Chargers own raiders:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFNP052icUk

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