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Postgame wrap

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News, notes and observations on the Raiders’ 24-16 loss to the Chargers in San Diego:

— Raiders hit midseason at 2-6, and it’s getting more and more like the movie “Groundhog Day.” They were 2-6 in every season dating back through 2003, except for in 2005, when they were 3-5.

The coach that year was Norv Turner, who now has six wins in six games against the Raiders after winning nine times in 32 games as coach of the Raiders.

— Much improved effort from quarterback JaMarcus Russell, and the very fact that I typed those words demonstrates how low the bar is set for the Raiders passing offense.

His first interception, headed toward Zach Miller surrounded by powder blue San Diego jerseys, led to the Chargers first touchdown. He completed 14 of 22 passes for 109 yards. He was lucky a first-and-10 forced pass late in the game wasn’t intercepted when the Raiders got a field goal.

Russell completed just two passes in eight attempts to wide receivers for 16 yards, and coach Tom Cable so distrusted the passing offense he put the game in the hands of his defense and Sebastian Janikowski rather than Russell.

And it was the right thing to do.

“I did a pretty good job,” Russell told reporters. “When it all boils down to it, you had a chance at the end to try and win. Didn’t do too much damage with the interception. No matter what happened, I think we came out and fought despite the score and just kept pushing and just came out short in the end.”

Cable thought Russell responded in a positive manner to last week’s benching in leading the Raiders to 16 points and their fifth game of the season with less than 200 yards of total offense.

“I thought he did some really good things that way today,” Cable said. “Very much seemed to be in control today. A couple of throws hed probably like to have over again but for the most part he gave us a chance to win today and that’s what you ask your quarterback to do.”

— We pause for the weekly Cable controversy.

Has there ever been a coach who came out of nowhere with a regular guy persona who ended up as such a lightning rod for unflattering stories? The latest was ESPN’s Outside the Lines allegation that Cable has a history of violence with women, one which his agent, Don Yee, disputed through a press release in a story by the Associated Press.

Cable declined comment after the loss to the Chargers, but intimated during his postgame press conference that it could be connected to the Randy Hanson affair.

“Who knows, maybe they’re tired together” Cable said. “That’s really all I can say about it. I gave an earlier statement that was released and I want to stand by that.”

Fair or not, the formerly anonymous Cable is now an ogre to many. A scuffle in the high-testosterone environment among coaches in training cap is one thing, allegations of striking women is something else entirely.

Cable was backed in a statement by his second wife despite mention of physical abuse in their divorce proceedings. Those who went on record were his first wife regarding incidents that allegedly occurred 20 years ago and a jilted former girlfriend not long after Cable married someone else.

Put it all together, and like the Hanson affair, there’s cause for reasonable doubt.

Except in the court of public opinion, which is far less stringent.

NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said the NFL will monitor all situations, but Cable’s biggest concern at 2-6 at midseason is in the Court of Al.

— Back to our regular-scheduled Week 8 program . . .

— The Raiders had four scoring drives (three field goals and a touchdown) and needed 30 plays to travel only 103 yards on short fields to score.

San Diego had four scoring drives (three touchdowns and a field goal) and gained an even 300 yards on 37 plays.

Oakland has to work impossibly hard to score because of the lack of a passing game, while Philip Rivers throws completions to Vincent Jackson (in the first half, anyway), seemingly at will.

— The Raiders first half of the season, in a nutshell, came on second-and-28 on their last possession. Louis Murphy and Darrius Heyward-Bey, seemingly not much better in Week 8 as rookies than they were in Week 1, are lined up side-by-side. Their feet tangle, they fall to the ground, and Russell is sacked for a 3-yard loss by Shawne Merriman.
(Correction: Receivers were actually Murphy and Johnnie Lee Higgins, the latter lined up in the slot. Heyward-Bey was on opposite side.)

— Yes, you heard Mario Henderson’s name called today because Merriman beat him for his first sack of the season. And it was the first time you heard it for that reason in eight games.

Pretty clear at this point that Henderson’s less than stellar practices performances under Lane Kiffin were due in large part to a coach who used him as a press pinata rather than working on developing him as a player. Al Davis was right on this one. Henderson had potential. Remember when left tackle was a big problem? Now it’s right tackle, with Khalif Barnes struggling again Sunday and Cornell Green possibly back after the bye.

— Another young talent emerged in defensive end Matt Shaungnessy. Cable was talking two weeks about about how Shaughnessy, Desmond Bryant and Trevor Scott were being afforded the “education of a lifetime” working with Richard Seymour and Greg Ellis on a daily basis. Another potential winner by A.D., whose supporters just hate it when all his successes over the last six years aren’t duly noted.

With Ellis’ playing time cut back because of an arthritic knee, Shaughnessy had one of the best game by a young Raiders lineman in recent memory with five tackles, a sack, two tackles for losses and a quarterback hurry. He played with great range, as well venturing far downfield on some plays.

— Justin Fargas gained some brutally tough yards in the Chargers red zone and got the payoff with a 3-yard touchdown run, his first in 115 carries dating back to last season. He finished with 59 yards in 18 carries, and the grim truth is that as proud as the Raiders were of “getting after it” physically against San Diego, they had just 99 yards on 27 carries. Erase a 12-yard reverse by Murphy and there was no gain longer than seven yards.

— Jonathan Holland broke a kickoff return 60 yards, a welcome sight for a team which has struggled all season to get past the 20.

— Janikowski connected on all three of his field goal attempts and is 12-for-12.

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Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer

  • bank-bank

    Gruden coming back,forget about it.Al undermined Gruden then and Al will do it again.Would you come back to this Al Davis ran institution that’s spiralling downward.I dont think so.He’s the reason no great coach wants to coach here.They dont want to be the next Sucker.

  • El Tato

    I don’t undrstand the Javon Walker situation either, especially when we have the worst WR starting unit in the league

    We need Schilens back, that was a huge loss

  • morilla

    Schilens will not help JaBlubberBust. It’s over. The only area on the field where tons of fun is accurate is in the middle 10-12 yards downfield. That’s it. Not even a talented vet can salvage those passes he chucks.

  • Roch R

    I came to a funny realization yesterday, I used to hope for wins, analyse the match up and evaluate what our chances were….

    Now I just hope for a first down.

  • Oh My Gawd!!!

    Cable The Woman Beater!!!!

    omg……………..

  • Roch R

    The bye week may be what we need for a late season push for repectability and a draft pick that won’t cost millions of guarenteed money. Hopefully with the time off we get key personnel back from Injury. Yes Schillens had great promise in the pre-season and it will be great to see what he can do. But getting Gallery back will be huge. Fact is this team doesn’t have any depth. And most likely best comeback from injury will be Nick Miller. He could be a spark plug for this team.

    Here’s to hoping for better days!

  • Silver n Smac,

    You were the one who compared Gruden’s managerial moves to Davis’s. And, it’s an absurd comparison. Whatever you want to call it. Organizing, player personnel, controlling a team…Al Davis is THE WORST ON THE PLANET, end of story. (Detroit got rid of Millen, can’t point to them anymore). Gruden had to juggle the task of keeping Dungy’s old defense in tact (which he actually did a decent job of, most notably by keeping M. Kiffin aboard), and still trying to somewhat draft for offense. He could have done a lot better, obviously. But to even remotely compare Tampa’s situation in recent years to that of the Raiders? You have to be on crack. Tampa won their division in ’05.

  • DMAC

    Does anyone think Nick Miller will be on the field as a WR also?

  • Roch R

    Check out the Slanch Report, I guess $61 Million doesn’t buy style, ha nice shirt JaMarcus. Joseph from the Technicolor Rainbow called, he’d like it back when you’re done.

  • M Lonetree

    And the fun thing is (Vegas Raider might have the stats at hand), anyone who bet on the Raiders yesterday came away a winner. Not bad at all.

  • Roch R

    Nick Miller should get a look as a WR, he had a Welker likeness about him in the pre-season.

  • morilla

    It’s not the lines fault. Have you seen JR’s drop dropbacks? His 3-5 step drops are like watching paint dry. He is entirely to slow getting back there and on top of that he holds on to the ball waaaaaaaaay too long when making his reads.

  • Halloween is usually the cutoff date for my football season, check.

    Who’s the next coach?

  • The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    November 2nd, 2009 at 12:22 pm

    Who’s the next coach? Al Davis. We’re not even changing coaches.
    —————————-
    That’s the deal aint it, we aint even changing coaches

    I’m having Rum n coke. 😉

  • DMAC

    O-LINE IS NOT THE PROBLEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • I have a hunch that Yvonne is in Al’s doghouse for having that knee surgery done before camp, and not informing the team (see: Davis, Al) about it.

  • Who’s the next coach? Al Davis. We’re not even changing coaches.

  • I caught a little OTL on my lunch break. Colleen Dominguez was stationed outside Raiders’ HQ…someone had to come out and ask her why she was even there lol. Told her that there might not even be a Cable press conference today because of the bye week.

    LMFAO

    I’ll bet it was Herrera.

  • You know what Al Davis needs to realize? We’re seeing a generation of young adult football fans that were not even alive the last time the Raiders won a Super Bowl. That is ancient, archival history to them. It’s completely irrelevant. Al Davis must think that most of his fans are old enough to remember the glory years. To most NFL fans under 30, Al Davis has sucked as long as they can remember, sans that brief Gruden/Gannon era. They have no recollection of the Raiders being dominant. Al Davis, to this generation, is nothing more than a failure and an object of ridicule. There is nothing to be admired. And as time goes on, and more and more young adults become NFL fans and thus Raider fans, this pool only increases, and contrarily, the older fans who acknowledge Al’s glory days die off.

  • I PAID $275 DOLLARS FOR MY AUTHENTIC RUSSELL JERSEY AT RAIDER IMAGE ON HEGENBERGER ROAD!!!!!!

    AND IM GONNA WEAR IT TODAY GAWDAMMIT. 😉

  • DMAC

    I’m wearing my Schreoder jersey.

  • I’m still wearing my McFadden PJs.

  • chappy23us

    Al Davis is the problem!

  • morilla
  • Well MR, I think, in then end, you got your message across. Despite the abuse.

    I’m having Run n coke this morning.

  • Rum n coke, excuse me.

  • TrueRaider

    Can someone PLEASE explain to me the following:
    1) Why is Asmough getting paid 16 mill a year if he doesnt mirror the best WRs?
    2) Why is Seymour a beast on certain games and disappears on others? Is he another Randy Moss?
    3) Why even keep Russell if you afraid to call a passing play?
    4) Why is Murphy and DHB still playing, JLH and Watkins seems to me a better option?
    5) Why didn’t we blitz Rivers?

    Can someone answer me these questions!!!

  • Hey Bill Cowher, Mike Shanahan, Jon Gruden, Tony Dungy, Mike Holmgren and Jeff Fisher, if the following jobs became available, which would be the last team you would sign with?

    Bills
    Browns
    Jags
    Titans
    Chargers
    Carolina
    Tampa
    Washington
    Dallas
    Oakland

    All at once…OAKLAND!

    hey Jim Fassel, Dennis Green, and Kevin Gilbride, of that list which team do you think you have the best chance of coaching next year?

    All at once…OAKLAND!

  • TrueRaider

    Chris Chambers released by the Chargers, Al get him, anyone is better than DHB.

  • I’m thinking Fassel, his son works here…… it’s a natural fit.

  • TrueRaider

    How about this, trade next year 3 round pick for Jeff Fisher, a tough coach who commands respect from his players. I think Al can work with him as long as Fisher is the commanding chief.

  • DMAC

    Although I hated his teams, I always thought Marty Schot was a good coach.

  • Richochet

    # TrueRaider Says:
    November 2nd, 2009 at 1:04 pm

    How about this, trade next year 3 round pick for Jeff Fisher, a tough coach who commands respect from his players. I think Al can work with him as long as Fisher is the commanding chief.

    ===============
    Obviously thinking isn’t your forte’.

    Al has proven one thing is set in stone..he can not work with ANYONE.

  • raiderdav

    http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii195/davpdesign/JamarcusRussell-2-copy.jpg
    i just read CHRIS CHAMBERS got released by the SD CHICKENS we should give him a shot, we got pampered p*ssies playing at WRs so might as well.

  • DMAC

    Fassel suxxxxxxxx

  • DMAC

    Yeah, let’s sign Chambers for millions, then keep him on the bench and start DHB and Murphy.

  • TrueRaider Says:
    November 2nd, 2009 at 1:04 pm

    How about this, trade next year 3 round pick for Jeff Fisher, a tough coach who commands respect from his players. I think Al can work with him as long as Fisher is the commanding chief.
    —————————-
    What, we already got a woman beater?????????/

    hello…….

  • Jim Fassel’s resume prior to Al choosing Cable:

    58-53-1 (prior to the 4-12 last season at the giants he had never had a record worse than 7-9), 3 playoff appearances, 1 SB loss.

    Cable’s resume:

    11-35 in college, 4-8 in the NFL, advocated for the signing of Kwame Harris.

    Why are we even talking about Cable this season? He never should have gotten the job…

  • Richochet

    # DMAC Says:
    November 2nd, 2009 at 1:07 pm

    Although I hated his teams, I always thought Marty Schot was a good coach.
    =======================
    Not sure who hates who more…Al hating Schott, or the other way around.

    We’re not talking dislike, or mutual disgust..we’re talking bonified hate.

    That said..I can see Schott taking the job just to sabotage the organization.

    Wait.

    That’s like saying you’ll take over running the Titanic, so you can sink it to the bottom of the ocean. The bottom is the bottom..can’t go any lower.

    In that case,…forget Schott.

  • UP LOCOMOTIVE ENGINEER

    morilla Says:
    November 2nd, 2009 at 12:41 pm
    Here you go…
    http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b42/opiate66/bust.jpg

    ============

    roflmao

  • DarthPirate

    Fire Cable AND Al Davis.

  • TrueRaider

    Oh God no Fassel, he is a bum just like Cable. Get me a proven winner, I think Shanahan is the best choice, he will at least resurrect Mcfumble and Bush Career and we can once again be a top 10 rushing team. He would also improvise zone blocking scheme that Cable messed it up this year. Also I think he would love to stick it to the Broncos twice a year. Only problem he will want close to 7 mill and other teams will out bid Al like say the Redskins.

  • TrueRaider

    Did I ask tough questions, no one can answer me?
    Richochet, how about you explain this to me

    *****************************************************
    # TrueRaider Says:
    November 2nd, 2009 at 12:51 pm

    Can someone PLEASE explain to me the following:
    1) Why is Asmough getting paid 16 mill a year if he doesnt mirror the best WRs?
    2) Why is Seymour a beast on certain games and disappears on others? Is he another Randy Moss?
    3) Why even keep Russell if you afraid to call a passing play?
    4) Why is Murphy and DHB still playing, JLH and Watkins seems to me a better option?
    5) Why didn’t we blitz Rivers?

    Can someone answer me these questions!!!

  • DMAC

    Shanahan still claiming that Big Al owes him $$$$.

  • TrueRaider…I think we all would rather have Shannyfart over Fassel…but I am trying to keep this discussion somewhere in the realm of reality.

    Shannyfart isn’t coming back to Oakland. Neither is Gruden. Holmgren would want complete control. Cowher would laugh in Al’s face. Fisher and Dungy have too much self respect to sign here.

    You need to lowere your expectations…Thank Fassel, Gilbride or Green, not Cowhere, Gruden and Shanny…but any of those three guys would still be a large step up from The Wife-Beating Buffoon.

  • Richochet

    Trolls 🙂 🙂 35 🙂 Raiders 🙂 0 Says::)
    November 🙂 😉 2nd, 2009 at 😉 🙂 11:45 am
    ========================
    All your little smileys? Your little desire to put some dopey smiley with every waning thought?
    Reminds me of when my kids turned 8.
    Every little message or email exchanged they did exactly what you did..smiley after smiley after smiley..giggling as they did so..much like you likely do.

    Then they got older, and realized how silly it looked.

    Just like you will…some day.

    Oh..BTW?? you ever notice how you never get any replies to anything you write? You ever consider the fact no one wants to wade through that stupid crap?

    Who knows? Maybe every once in a blue moon you’ll actually say something worth reading..except we’ll never know, will we?
    Your posts scream “I’m a dopey kid”

    Just thought you’d..you know..like to know.

  • Dakota

    If you were to see me marching in front of Raiders HQ, which sign would you like to see me carrying?

  • Let me try that again:

    TrueRaider…I think we all would rather have Shannyfart over Fassel…but I am trying to keep this discussion somewhere in the realm of reality.

    Shannyfart isn’t coming back to Oakland. Neither is Gruden. Holmgren would want complete control. Cowher would laugh in Al’s face. Fisher and Dungy have too much self respect to sign here.

    You need to lower your expectations…Think Fassel, Gilbride or Green, not Cowhere, Gruden and Shanny…but any of those three guys would still be a large step up from The Wife-Beating Buffoon.

  • KK,

    I would love to see you toting this sign near Raiders’ HQ!

    http://washpost.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/kill-whitey.jpg

    …but if not that one…then maybe one that says, “FUK U AL, HIRE A GM!!!”

  • TrueRaider

    Dakota

    Ok, how about Urban Meyers, he is a winner, if he wins the national championship this year, that will be 3 rings in his hand, has nothing else to prove except that he can win in the Nfl. I think if Al gives him a chance and a bit more control to implement the Spread offense, he can do wonders for this team what do u think? And since we are talking? Can u answer me this.

    # TrueRaider Says:
    November 2nd, 2009 at 12:51 pm

    Can someone PLEASE explain to me the following:
    1) Why is Asmough getting paid 16 mill a year if he doesnt mirror the best WRs?
    2) Why is Seymour a beast on certain games and disappears on others? Is he another Randy Moss?
    3) Why even keep Russell if you afraid to call a passing play?
    4) Why is Murphy and DHB still playing, JLH and Watkins seems to me a better option?
    5) Why didn’t we blitz Rivers?

    Can someone answer me these questions!!!