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Head start for Seymour?

No sign of defensive end Richard Seymour as the Raiders went through warmups and drills Thursday preceding their last practice before getting the weekend off.

As per bye week custom, players will beat a hasty retreat from the locker room following practice, some catching flights home, others remaining the area to relax.

Wide receiver Chaz Schilens and guard Robert Gallery continued to practice with the team, with the latter almost assuredly rejoining the starting line up at left guard when the Raiders host the Kansas City Chiefs Nov. 15.

More to come following practice and Tom Cable’s press briefing . . .

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  • TrueRaider

    # DMAC Says:
    November 5th, 2009 at 12:59 pm

    EXACTLY!
    So the blame should be on Cable. Why doesn’t Cable NOT listen to Al and do his own thing? Maybe because he shouldn’t be a NFL head coach.
    ====================================================
    DMAC, with all due respect, you getting this wrong. Cable has never had authority, the last couple of coaches we had as a Raider had no authority over AL. Gruden was an exception that won’t happen again. Every coach coming to the Raiders knows which system that team is going to run, AL Davis verticle pass and man to man defense. Under Gruden, we were running a pure WCO system, Kiffen tried to run this system and guess what happened, fired with no money. When you apply for a job, you know what the company wants from you, you cant go against the boss, in this case, our boss is an old lunatic bum whose system is bond to fail.

  • DMAC

    Where was the National Organization for Women at when Chris Brown beat the chit of Rihana??????

  • DMAC

    Kiffin got fired for mouthing off.

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    Al Davis…you stubborn POS! JUST STEP DOWN ALREADY!!!!!

    Hire Madden as a consultant for the rest of the year…let him evaluate GM prospects, then hire the GM he suggests and let the GM run the team. You give the GM a budget and then get the fuk out of the way you SOB!

  • Nnamdi21

    Its not Cable, its the players who don’t practice and prep hard enough. THATS Davis’s fault for nuetering his coaches which allows this kind of sloth and quitting attitude.

    I agree we need a vocal vet presence to kick slackers in the azz. Someone who’s with the players and babysits till they get the work ethic they need to compete every week and not just when they get a wild hair.

  • TrueRaider

    Dakota,

    Dude, I know that. You should convey this message to Nnamdi21 who thinks Gruden didn’t run the show. Players were loyal to him not to AL Davis, they respected Gruden and knew that all he wants is the W.
    I still don’t understand how do you guys blame a scapegoat Cable who has no authority and not blame AL Davis who is running the show. This team sucks because of AL, Norv Turner was a good coach not a top notch but good, our team sucked under him why? Cause he was another puppet to AL Davis.

    Dakota Says:
    November 5th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
    TrueRaider,

    Didn’t Gruden once admit that when crazy Al would come up with some moronic suggestion to pacify Al, Gruden would have some low level grunt on the staff cut up some tape showing why the moronic suggestion would not work in modern day football and that usually kept Al off his back.

    Think Cable has the guts or the brains to do something like that? No fukin way.

    Nnamdi21 Says:
    November 5th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
    Gruden did NOT run the team. He was wise enough to rely on vets like Gannon, Rice, Brown ect. to run the show.

    The down side of running a George Allen style plan the way Gruden did was a massive collapse after mortgaging the future for vets with an expiration date.

    Look at the Bucs…

  • DMAC

    Shanny needs to kiss and make up w/ Al. Imagine what Shanny would do with our RB’s. (Especially DMAC)

  • DMAC

    will never happen though.

  • DMAC

    Norv has never been a good head coach. Maybe a good Offensive coordinator. Look at what he’s done to the Chargers.

  • TrueRaider

    DMAC Says:
    November 5th, 2009 at 1:09 pm

    Where was the National Organization for Women at when Chris Brown beat the chit of Rihana?????

    Are you serious? you wanna compare under 22 musicians to Cable? Cable works and represents the NFL, a billion dollar organization, what does Chris and Rihanna do? sing songs and entertain each other, Come on DMAC, Cable is a wife beater and got issues.

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    Nnamdi21 Says:
    November 5th, 2009 at 1:12 pm
    Its not Cable, its the players who don’t practice and prep hard enough. THATS Davis’s fault for nuetering his coaches which allows this kind of sloth and quitting attitude.

    I agree we need a vocal vet presence to kick slackers in the azz. Someone who’s with the players and babysits till they get the work ethic they need to compete every week and not just when they get a wild hair.
    _________________________________

    Rich Gannon was at his wits end trying to keep this team under control while he was here, and he said he had to fight the BS Al Davis allows to occur, like drinking on the plane to away games.

    Gannon wasn’t very popular in the locker-room for it, but at least we won some games.

    Too bad Al isn’t going anywhere, so the blame must fall on Cable. Besides, Cable is a joke…couldn’t have gotten a college HC job, let alone an NFL HC job before Al hired him…if Al hires the right guy it could work (long shot, I know, but better than treading water with the useless Cable guy who we all know is not working out).

  • TrueRaider

    DMAC

    Last I checked the record Norv Turner record, he won the AFC West twice 2007 and 2008. Took SD to the AFC championship game only to lose it because of dumb mistakes and last year they lost from the World Champions Steelers, I would take that over anything. Btw, what system was he running in here comparing to the system they got in SD now?

  • DMAC

    Cable is a pretty good O-line coach and that’s about it!

  • DMAC

    Norv is garbage!

  • TrueRaider

    Dakota,

    Tell me which coach would be like Gruden and stand up against AL, I agree Cable shouldn’t have been hired, but history shows us that AL would only hire puppets, so what makes you think we would have a chance to win when players know that the coach is a puppet?

    Dakota says:

    Too bad Al isn’t going anywhere, so the blame must fall on Cable. Besides, Cable is a joke…couldn’t have gotten a college HC job, let alone an NFL HC job before Al hired him…if Al hires the right guy it could work (long shot, I know, but better than treading water with the useless Cable guy who we all know is not working out).

  • Crude Earl

    Where was the National Organization for Women when….

    ————————————————————————————————————–
    Letterman was boinking all the hired help???
    ======================================================
    Letterman slandered Sarah Palin’s teenage daughter about whoring around with A_Rod????
    ======================================================
    Chris Brown beat up Rhiannon???
    ======================================================
    Bobby Brown Beat up Whiney Houston
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    Kanye West bullied 17 year old Taylor Swift on national TV????
    =======================================================
    Actor Terrence Howard beats hie wife?????
    ======================================================

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    TrueRaider Says:
    November 5th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
    Dakota,

    Dude, I know that. You should convey this message to Nnamdi21 who thinks Gruden didn’t run the show. Players were loyal to him not to AL Davis, they respected Gruden and knew that all he wants is the W.
    I still don’t understand how do you guys blame a scapegoat Cable who has no authority and not blame AL Davis who is running the show. This team sucks because of AL, Norv Turner was a good coach not a top notch but good, our team sucked under him why? Cause he was another puppet to AL Davis.
    _____________________________

    Hey I share your feelings on Al Davis. His ownership method is why we are falling on hard times. You can’t blame the players, as most of them have not been here for 7 seasons…Al hired all these POS HCs because he knew they were pussies and wouldn’t go against him.

    Al is a mother-fing POS owner, but he isn’t going anywhere. Our only hope is to fire the fat wife beater and hope that Al hires a coach with some balls (he did it once in the past 15 years)…I’d take that 1% chance of Al hitting it right with a new HC over the 0% chance that Cable is cut out for this job. WE ARE GOING NOWHERE WITH CABLE! No chance in hell Cable will EVER be more than he has already shown as a HC…he is a 17-49 LOSER as a HC!

  • raidasteve

    1-2-3 Get Better!

  • DMAC

    With that being said…………
    Our next coach will be Gilbride.

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    Dakota, how do you know Gannon wasn’t popular in the locker room? I’ve only heard the Raiders brass bash him personally. I’m yet to hear a player bash him on a personal level. I think one player did allude to the notion in 3rd person, that Gannon wasn’t popular, whatever, but when has a player outright bashed Gannon personally? I haven’t seen it. Meanwhile, several players have bashed Al Davis and/or the organization, which translates to Al Davis as well, because the last I checked, there’s nobody else who runs that organization. What that tells me is that the players merely disapproved of Gannon’s tenacious style of leadership (considering before Gannon’s arrival they had no leadership whatsoever, and, not unlike present day, players only went to Oakland to collect a check in their final few years and not have a coach ..or player..yelling in their face), but aside from that, they had no problem with him. You’d be surprised how much athletes like winning, and how much they’ll tolerate an uptight locker room leader when they do. Unless Gannon literally never spoke to anyone, I mean if he was really that snobbish, I guarantee you the only players that didn’t like Gannnon were the ones who only came to Oakland for the easy check and the siesta, and didn’t care rather the team won or lost. And, I’m glad they hated Gannon. They’re not team mates, anyway. They’re junk players taking advantage of our dumb as sin owner who still thinks they’re great, and that they’re determined to win a championship. I consider them Raiders about as much as I consider Todd Marinovich a Raider. What they think of Gannon is irrelevant.

  • http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/63/60563-004-52A399D4.jpg Dakota

    TrueRaider Says:
    November 5th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
    Dakota,

    Tell me which coach would be like Gruden and stand up against AL, I agree Cable shouldn’t have been hired, but history shows us that AL would only hire puppets, so what makes you think we would have a chance to win when players know that the coach is a puppet?
    ____________________________________

    Hey, Gruden wasn’t a puppet, neither was Kiffen…one worked out better than the other, but Al does occasionally hire a guy with some spine…it just doesn’t happen very often.

    That means that there is a VERY SLIM CHANCE that Al MIGHT hire a decent HC…whereas our alternative is to stick with Cable who is so clearly not a legit NFL HC to anyone with a brain? At least with a new HC we have a chance…with Cable we have NO CHANCE.

    As an Al Davis hater that understands the motherfer is going nowhere, it is the only way I maintain any hope for the future of the Raiders. With Cable and Al we have no hope…that has been made evident over the course of the past 20 games…but maybe, just maybe with the next guy?????? I know, a slim thread of hope…but better than no hope with the Wife Beating Buffoon.

    Just my opinion.

  • TrueRaider

    Dakota

    I think we as fans are also to be blamed. The Browns fans (I think his name big dog) forced a meeting with their owner, Snyder apologized to his fans who were forced to throw away their emotional signs against him. Lions fans boycotted their team and forced the owner to fire Matt Millen, what are we doing as fans? We got dumb guys who support AL Davis and call themselves loyal fans. Until AL knows he needs to hire a true GM and a good Coach who works side by side with the GM, we will remain a mediocre team.

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    Crude Earl,

    Was N.O.W. silent on Bobby Brown, Chris Brown, and Terrence Howard?

    As far as Letterman’s affairs, and Kanye West/Taylor Swift, I’m going to assume you’re joking. You can’t be that retarded.

  • DMAC

    Al Davis loves his Raiders just as much as we do, but he has no clue how to run a franchise anymore.

  • DMAC

    new thread

  • raidasteve

    Guys, give it a break! NOTHING will change until Al is gone. NOTHING. Hopefully it will be in a couple of years. In last 100 games the Raiders have won 25? Freaken pathetic. No decent coach will come to Oakland until Al is gone. It has been real hard to be a Raider fan for the past 5 years. Same BS every year.

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  • http://www.myspace.com/anonsc AnonofPT

    Whose fault are the Raiders downfalls? Jamarcus Russel? Al Davis? Tom Cable? Well the owners job (even as controlling as Al is) is to provide the means to win. I believe that Al has provided the raw talent that is necessary to win.

    Russell: While he has seemingly digressed from the end of last season, I believe him when he says it’s not his fault. He was given a big time contract he didn’t earn, that is gonna lead to motivational issues throughout a young qb’s career. The fact of the matter is that he has the ability, but when it all comes down to it, it is Tom Cable’s job to keep his quarterback motivated to work hard. As coach it would be Cable’s responsibility to see that Russell wants to show up to practice early and stay late.

    Cable: His legal issues aside, Cable is not a good fit for the Raiders period. A coaches job when you’re on the Raiders staff and only have limited decision making power if any is to keep your players inspired, well practiced, and motivated. This whole media frenzy is going to leave Cable with an intimidation over motivation persona which will in turn lead to more losses for the Raiders. The fact of the matter is it was Cable’s job to turn Russell into a leader, he was coming off a pretty good last few games last season and Tom Cable refuses to call to his strengths.

    Side note, I think Louis Murphy might have been better than DHB in college and so far he definitely is better in the NFL, but you can’t blame Russell until the offensive line starts blocking, the runners start running, and the receivers start catching all the close passes.

  • raiderzmaverick

    Tell Al what you think….

    http://messagetoal.com/

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  • silvershark

    Russell should have been practicing with Gallery and Shilens! He needs it more than any player in the league.

    But he is off to Alabama to eat more. this is why this team is a train wreck. The more you let this Guy get away with this crap, the worse this team will be.

    cable is a coward. he can’t confront a 80 year old man who can barely walk. But he can beat on a woman! This Guy is a joke.

    Fire this Bastard!