Off-day notes
By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Saturday, November 7th, 2009 at 11:03 pm in Oakland Raiders.
A few random thoughts gathered from shuttling kids to and fro Saturday and catching a little college football in between with the Raiders in their bye week:
– The steady drumbeat of Jim Harbaugh to the Raiders will soon pick up steam, if for no other reason than the Stanford coach has a healthy respect for Al Davis having worked in Oakland, and because Merc columnist Tim Kawakami will see to it.
Watching Stanford’s 51-42 win over Oregon, Harbaugh’s offense had exactly the sort of power running (38 carries, 223 yards from Toby Gerhart) and downfield throwing (12 completions for 251 yards from Andrew Luck) that Al Davis loves. You’d think think it was a more athletic Marv Hubbard clone hammering the middle with Lamonica doing deep.
Interesting dilemma for Harbaugh should the Cardinal win a couple more games before the end of the season. Does he strike right away, or ride the Andrew Luck train closer to completion when the Cardinal could potentially win a Pac-10 title and get him an even better gig?
Regardless, he’s not coming to Oakland.
As much as he admires Davis, Harbaugh’s agent is (or at least was) a business partner of Mike Lombardi at the National Football Post. Rest assured Harbaugh will never disparage the Raiders, but will seek out a more stable opportunity. The guy does seem a bit detached from reality on occasion, however, so I reserve the right to be dead wrong in public.
– Speaking of Luck and the Cardinal, is it really that much to ask for Raiders receivers Louis Murphy and Darrius Heyward-Bey to occasionally make a leaping catch as if they had some sort of connection with quarterback JaMarcus Russell? Yes, it’s pros vs. colleges, but, every once in awhile it would be nice to see the Raiders even approach something appoximating a legitimate passing game.
– According to one report, William Joseph was brought back in by the Raiders for another look. Let’s say I’m a little skeptical that 30-something Greg Ellis will be back for the Chiefs game after arthroscopic knee surgery, but even if he’s out, Joseph is a tackle, not an end. The Raiders could, however, play Richard Seymour exclusively outside in the meantime.
One thing’s for sure _ Matt Shaughnessy should be given as many snaps as possible after what looked to be a breakout game against San Diego.
– For anyone who seemed confused over the “revelations” contained in Friday’s post on the Raiders and the likelihood of Jon Gruden returning, there was no new ground covered there. It was all reported in 2004 in the days leading up to the Bucs-Raiders game at the Coliseum. The only reason I repeated it was because of the volume of talk about Gruden’s potential return.
– Damn frightning injury to Cal’s Jahvid Best against Oregon State, even more so because he was coming off a “minor” concussion the previous week.
It’s a murky medical area, but there’s a scary collaboration between the pride of a football player and the eagerness of a team to get a player to return to action following a concussion. Strong side linebacker Jon Alston sustained a “minor” concussion after the Oct. 11 against the Giants, then again following the Chargers game.
Alston was back on the practice field the Wednesday following the Charger game. Coach Tom Cable said he’s passed all the tests.
Here’s a guy passionate about football and will do whatever it takes to get on the field. He’s also a Stanford graduate who will have no trouble making a good living when his football days are over. If the Alstons of the world are going to push aside concussions, so is everyone else. The NFLPA would be wise to protect players against themselves.
– Profootballtalk.com is reporting the Raiders are working closely with the NFL to determine what to do with Tom Cable and allegations about his his history of violence toward women.
While that may be true, my understanding is they’re just as obsessed with ESPN, unable to let go of what they believe was a pipeline of information between former coach Lane Kiffin and the network, specifically Chris Mortensen.
Time to move on.
– The general consensus regarding the pot arrest for Giants pitcher Tim Lincecum? No big deal. Entitled to a mistake. Pretty dumb, but hardly a blip on the radar screen.
Just for the hell of it, let’s substitute Lincecum in his Mercedes for a hypothetical quarterback in a Rolls Royce. Instead of a wispy 150-plus pounds with long hair, the offender weighs upwards of 270 with something approximating a mohawk. Instead of being the toast of major league baseball, he’s considered a potential bust as a No. 1 overall draft pick.
Same crime, but assuredly two entirely different reactions, and we won’t even get into the sociological implications which are sure to be debated.
The moral of the story is it pays to be productive.
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November 7th, 2009 at 11:10 pm
Hire Jim Harbaugh
November 7th, 2009 at 11:15 pm
Weren’t you a Ghost writer for John Gruden?
November 7th, 2009 at 11:17 pm
Jerry
If Al Davis knew so much about winning in todays NFL, why isn’t he doing it?
6 winning seasons since 1989?
November 7th, 2009 at 11:20 pm
Jerry,
Last 4 Coaches averaged a tenure of 25 games?
Does that sound like someone who knows what he’s doing?
You can see some confusion there, no?
November 7th, 2009 at 11:23 pm
Jerry,
Continued Blackouts in the 5th largest media market in the US will concern his partners in the NFL, no?
November 7th, 2009 at 11:26 pm
What happened to Gary Russell?
November 7th, 2009 at 11:30 pm
Those are the stories regarding the Raiders Jerry, not mundane football, injury reports, draft jibberjabber.
I don’t see the relevant stories from the local media.
November 7th, 2009 at 11:44 pm
Jerry, you can’t be naive enough to believe that Harbaugh would allow his agent to come between him coaching his favorite team and working for someone he respects as much as he respect Mr Davis? Even you’re smarter than that. But I can see you hoping like hell he doesn’t, I really don’t see Cable losing his job although there may be some kind of reprimand.
Harbaugh and the Raiders go way to Jim’s father so you should know if he called several coaches would answer including Del Rio and others like Romo who’ve actually talked to Mr Davis about coaching in some capacity. There is also a very good GM waiting to take his post. Mr Davis getting his ducks in a row as we speak.
That coaching gem by Jim Harbaugh was special I would bet that Luck is the best QB in the Bay Area college or Pro he really is something special. IMO the best QB to play at Stanford since Jim Plunkett.
Don’t worry Jerry, Chaz Schilens will come to Russell’s rescue and so will JLH and little ‘Nickie Miller the DB killer’. Russell’s weapons will triple in the next few weeks.
These worshipers of yours thought you were suggesting Gruden come back here. The little lost sheep that they are. The last thing you want is any capable coach coming within shouting distance of the Raiders. But they don’t know that.
November 7th, 2009 at 11:50 pm
KK, when are you going to get a clue dude? if they haven’t done a thing to the Detroit Lions in all these years do you really think they want to tangle with MR Davis?? take your brain out of your back pocket and put it in your head. Mr Davis one of the most powerful owners in the NFL. They will not think of such a thing while he’s alive. Get a freakin’ clue!! and what would be their reasoning seeing how they let the Jets flounder for ages in NY.
November 7th, 2009 at 11:58 pm
Priest, all the enablers around Al Davis, sucking his blood, the hangers on in that building. All them cockroaches gotta go too.
November 8th, 2009 at 12:03 am
whatever dude. you don’t know your ass from a hole in the ground you’re just like these other sheep. d
and keep wishing.
November 8th, 2009 at 12:10 am
Who you call sheep, some are paying fans, probably all of them.
But let’s see how you like Blackouts the rest of the year.
November 8th, 2009 at 12:15 am
until we win blackouts are a fact of life in this economy. you have to win.
so be it.
November 8th, 2009 at 12:19 am
No shyt Einstein, that’s what we’re talking here. WE AINT WINNING. HAVENT FOR A LONG TIME, hello, knock, knock!
November 8th, 2009 at 12:22 am
Help me, Kell. But did he just blame the blackouts on the economy? As if we were selling out game after game before the economy crashed last year?
November 8th, 2009 at 12:22 am
hey!! stupid that’s all everyone ever talks about maybe you haven’t noticed. we all want to win not just you.
forget it i’ll never agree with anything you have to say about how to go about it. and don’t want to discuss it.
November 8th, 2009 at 12:23 am
Priest, I have a question. Was Randy Hanson really being looked at to move up to a “personnel-managing” type position?
November 8th, 2009 at 12:24 am
MR
The 49ers are still selling out aren’t they?
November 8th, 2009 at 12:27 am
# KoolKell Says:
November 8th, 2009 at 12:24 am
MR
The 49ers are still selling out aren’t they?
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Are you trying to say they have more loyal fans? It’s not like the product they’ve put on the field recently has gotten them into the playoffs much.
November 8th, 2009 at 12:28 am
Priest,
Sure “everybody” wants to win, not just me.
But Al Davis is the GM, and the one responsible for winning, and he aint doing it. Aint done it for a helluva long time.
November 8th, 2009 at 12:28 am
Kell, the Niners aren’t doing as good at the gate as they used to, but they’ve had no games blacked out yet. Has SD? Priest is really off his meds tonight.
November 8th, 2009 at 12:30 am
Priest, you don’t want to win. You just want people to to admire Al Davis the way you do. There’s no possible way you could want to win AND support Al DAvis at the same time. Al Davis and winning are mutually exclusive.
November 8th, 2009 at 12:30 am
The 49ers don’t tell their fans to fk off. Big difference.
November 8th, 2009 at 12:33 am
all randy was and wanted to do is coach.
November 8th, 2009 at 12:33 am
How could any GM with a long term plan, hire 5 Coaches in 5 years?
Makes no sense.
November 8th, 2009 at 12:35 am
KK-i seriously doubt you want the Raiders to win as long as Davis is alive or at least in control,which is pretty much the same thing.you hate the man so much it clouds anything the team does or tries to do.
November 8th, 2009 at 12:38 am
Lefty, that’s your opinion. But I’m asking questions and stating facts. Not questioning your veracity.
Now would you care to comment on post#25?
November 8th, 2009 at 12:38 am
Why is this fool always talking to me? I’ve never since I’ve been posting here came in here and talked to this fool but he’s always talking to me.
I got nothing to say to this fool.
November 8th, 2009 at 12:39 am
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 8th, 2009 at 12:30 am
Priest, you don’t want to win. You just want people to to admire Al Davis the way you do. There’s no possible way you could want to win AND support Al DAvis at the same time. Al Davis and winning are mutually exclusive.
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That’s not really true. I could support Al Davis for what he’s done in the past. It doesn’t mean that I want him to change how things are operating in the present. I feel you need to look at the statistics and production and base your actions on that.
Once Al brought in someone to work with him (like a GM) I would support him. He would still make a lot of decisions. They may not all be the best.
But Fans are supporters. Constant degradation, invalidation, antagonism and so on doesn’t help a thing. Probably doesn’t even make you feel better.
November 8th, 2009 at 12:41 am
i agree with it.also,how could a GM with a long term plan continue to play a QB who so far has shown he isn’t nearly ready for the job and would no doubt benefit more by sitting,watching ,and learning.
November 8th, 2009 at 12:42 am
# priesttj Says:
November 8th, 2009 at 12:33 am
all randy was and wanted to do is coach.
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I’m glad he’s outta here. He was actually destructive to the Organization from what I can tell.
He was trying to make it look like he’s helping all the while ripping things up behind the scenes. It was really covert. Like “Wow – the good thing is that this got done by Thursday so the team didn’t have the distraction on the weekend….” And then stirs up more noise.
November 8th, 2009 at 12:44 am
Lefty12, you see it too huh? but he’ll swear he doesn’t hate the man. Eventhough we’ve stunk it up for 6 or 7 years this team has been rebiulding the entire time. Due to the mess that was left by Gruden. Lefty12 we need to get healthy but this team if they would just believe in themselves can win.
I know you don’t believe in Russell and for good reason but I’m hopeful that he has finally got it through his thick head that his life depends on how much film he watches. Figuratively speaking.
November 8th, 2009 at 12:45 am
KK,are you denying you hate Davis because it seems pretty obvious from your daily posts that you do.
November 8th, 2009 at 12:46 am
priest, I’m not really talking to you, just making fun of you. you have to understand that in order to effectively clown you, I do have to talk to you.
November 8th, 2009 at 12:47 am
Priest
Remember when you were lecturing us all about the Kiffin/Davis fued was a figment of the media’s imagination?
November 8th, 2009 at 12:48 am
Lefty
Pull your head out.
November 8th, 2009 at 12:49 am
There’s going to be a lot of housekeeping in that building.
November 8th, 2009 at 12:50 am
Raidersmaverick, you’re obviously confused.
November 8th, 2009 at 12:51 am
Priest-Russell is a prime example of one of the main problems in the league today.everyone knows he should be on the bench learning until he gets it,but he is making so much money the owner forces him to play and the team suffers because he is playing.i still don’t know what we have in him,even though i dog him constantly.but i do know the team would be better on the field if he wasn’t.
November 8th, 2009 at 12:51 am
Lefty12, He may need to sit but unfortunately we can’t afford it. It would be differrent if we had a difference makerin front of him. These guy’s we have would frustrate you more than he does and they don’t have the upside to make it worth the while. If we had a Gannon or someone solid at least I’d buy it.
November 8th, 2009 at 12:51 am
ConfusedMaverick wrote:
Constant degradation, invalidation, antagonism and so on doesn’t help a thing. Probably doesn’t even make you feel better.
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Oh, you’re wrong about that!
November 8th, 2009 at 12:53 am
priesttj Says:
November 8th, 2009 at 12:44 am
Lefty12, you see it too huh? but he’ll swear he doesn’t hate the man. Eventhough we’ve stunk it up for 6 or 7 years this team has been rebiulding the entire time. Due to the mess that was left by Gruden.
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How can you say Gruden left this mess? It was already here before he came. And started again after he left.
I think some people take it a bit too far to one extreme with Mr. Davis, but this is going way out the other direction.
November 8th, 2009 at 12:53 am
Priest/Lefty like a couple of little dweebs, ignoring the tough guys.
Just keep walking, don’t look at em 
Weak.
November 8th, 2009 at 12:55 am
priest will be blaming Gruden 10 years from now. priest will blame gruden till al hires him again, where priest will then be gruden’s biggest supporter. btw, yeh, priest, gruden hasn’t been employed with the Raiders in nearly a decade. just so you know.
November 8th, 2009 at 12:56 am
So what KK, what do you want a medal?? get over it.
November 8th, 2009 at 12:57 am
Kell, in just the past half hour, priest has blamed our blackouts on the economy and blamed the team’s current failures on Gruden. They should have this guy in a cage at the carnival!
November 8th, 2009 at 12:58 am
# lefty12 Says:
November 8th, 2009 at 12:51 am
Priest-Russell is a prime example of one of the main problems in the league today.everyone knows he should be on the bench learning until he gets it,but he is making so much money the owner forces him to play and the team suffers because he is playing.i still don’t know what we have in him,even though i dog him constantly.but i do know the team would be better on the field if he wasn’t.
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True that. But you can’t just bench him for long. But a couple games to try to get his head out of his ass might help. Also, it would really show if the offense could work with someone else at the helm.
For whatever reason the team is fixated at sticking with unprocing players because they’re young. I know they are supposed to be the future of the franchise, but if you’re not held accountable you won’t be driven to improve and you’ll get the phenomenon of DHB or JAmarcus saying “I think I’m doing great”.
Why can we switch out the Safeties, O-Line and basically any other position to create ‘competition’ but not the QB or WR? Even RB. McFadden isn’t totally just kept in there. They throw Fargas in there just because he tries harder (doesn’t even get more yards per carry). Why not the under-achieving, dillusional players who aren’t pulling their weight (pun intended)
November 8th, 2009 at 12:58 am
can’t agree with you there Priest.at this point in time either Frye or Gradkowski would be a better option for us.granted neither one of them would be the long term solution but they wouldn’t have to be.Russell is supposed to be that guy.of course if we continue to play him and he proves to be the new J.George,maybe we’ll be able to draft Luck in a few years.
KK-at least MR admits he hates Davis.why can’t you?hell,i’m not a fan of the guy,but i don’t hate him.
November 8th, 2009 at 12:58 am
Lefty will be blaming JaMarcus Russell for the Raiders 6 winning seasons in 20 years, till he reaches his 80’s.
November 8th, 2009 at 12:59 am
I think priest is really Jerry just messing with us, keeping the blog active…
November 8th, 2009 at 1:01 am
Well Gruden came into great situation in Tampa and left it the same way, coincident I don’t think so. They are desparately trying to rebiuld just like we had to.
Not all Gruden’s fault but same person same results.
November 8th, 2009 at 1:01 am
KK-at least MR admits he hates Davis.why can’t you?hell,i’m not a fan of the guy,but i don’t hate him.
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I don’t have to admit to anything that isn’t true, just to justify your closed mind.
I’m asking question and stating facts, and you’re ducking them.
But whether I hate Al Davis or not is beside the point of their lack of success, no?
November 8th, 2009 at 1:02 am
adios!! goodnite left, to the sheep baaah!!
November 8th, 2009 at 1:04 am
priest’s mom started yelling at him about the keyboard noise again.
November 8th, 2009 at 1:04 am
# KoolKell Says:
November 8th, 2009 at 12:58 am
Lefty will be blaming JaMarcus Russell for the Raiders 6 winning seasons in 20 years, till he reaches his 80’s.
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Not having a clear direction and having mediocre to very poor coaches and total crap at QB is what caused us loosing for 6 years. You don’t think QB has anything to do with it? We switch our QBs faster than our head coaches! And none of our QBs are known for their decision making skills and ball management since Gannon. All “big physical QBs with strong arm and need to improve decision-making”
So, I think that trend is pretty well following now. Mediocre coaching with the QB who fits the bill.
November 8th, 2009 at 1:07 am
lefty, you are a fan of Al Davis. you’re a worshiper of Al Davis. Only a worshiper of Al’s even remotely stands up for him anymore. You’re not fooling anyone.
November 8th, 2009 at 1:08 am
I’d blame Jamarcus for us loosing this season more than anyone else on the field including the coaches. His work ethic, demeanor and product are being rewarded by the coaches and this is the standard that the offense is using.
If that’s Cable’s fault for not wanting to speak out honestly about his level of play or Davis for demanding he stay in (if that is in fact the case) it doesn’t matter. The fact is that now he’s in there and how he is responding is pulling everyone down.
November 8th, 2009 at 1:08 am
Lefty, you could describe Al’s genitals to the last detail.
November 8th, 2009 at 1:08 am
Raiderzmaverick #56
Everything you said is a damning indictment of Al Davis.
November 8th, 2009 at 1:09 am
KK-why the personal attacks?can’t we have a discussion with them?i don’t blame Russell for any losing season except this one.and it isn’t his fault.he shouldn’t be playing.he isn’t ready to lead an NFL team at this point in time.btw,that is 9 losing seasons in the last 20 years-pretty bad for sure-but that means 3 losing seasons in the previous 13 when you subtract the last 6,whatever the hell that means.in case you weren’t aware of it 8-8 makes the playoffs in a lot of years.but i don’t want to argue records-ours isn’t what it should have been-on that i agree 100% with you.
November 8th, 2009 at 1:10 am
Maverick, name one GM in football worse than Al Davis.
November 8th, 2009 at 1:10 am
Lefty, you too. One GM in football worse than Al. Name one.
November 8th, 2009 at 1:11 am
Man, Priest is almost defenseless these days.
November 8th, 2009 at 1:12 am
# KoolKell Says:
November 8th, 2009 at 1:08 am
Raiderzmaverick #56
Everything you said is a damning indictment of Al Davis.
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You’re probably right. And hopefully he sees he needs to bring in someone he’s willing to “lean-on” so to speak as he is not able to handle everything all by himself.
BUT, RIGHT NOW we probably could be winning. And RIGHT NOW I think that RUSSELL is a big reason for the downfall this season.
I think that the team was united and pumped to start the season. I think he just pulled the whole spirit of the team down with his play and attitude and brought the whole unit down to his level of play.
November 8th, 2009 at 1:15 am
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 8th, 2009 at 1:10 am
Maverick, name one GM in football worse than Al Davis.
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phew…that’s tough. Right now, I don’t know. If Millen was still in Detroit I’d have to say him.
One thing I do believe though is right now with the players we have right now we could be winning now. Not champtionship, but could be a descent team. I think with Gradowski or Frye managing the game descently our defense would step up a lot and the offense would gel more. If the QB would just perform like Orten in Denver we’d probably win 8-9 games this year.
November 8th, 2009 at 1:16 am
repost one thing i have said that supports the statement that i am a Davis fan.you can’t.unlike you 2 i’ve become resolved we are stuck with him and there isn’t sh!t any of us can do about him,but i’m still a Raider fan and hope for the best for the team.hate is a strong word.
November 8th, 2009 at 1:16 am
That’s not flashy QB play. It’s just solid, moving the sticks, not making huge mistakes. I think Gradowski could do that. Not fumble is 2x per day and throw 1-2 interceptions and throw balls to the dirt when the WR is open on 3rd down….
November 8th, 2009 at 1:17 am
Lefty12 Says:
November 8th, 2009 at 1:09 am
KK-why the personal attacks?can’t we have a discussion with them?
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You’re just as disingenuous as you can be aren’t cha?
6 winning seasons in the last 20 yrs.
6 playoff appearances in the last 20 years.
NFL Record 6 straight double-digit losing seasons AND counting.
But it’s kind of you to admit our record isn’t what it should be.
November 8th, 2009 at 1:18 am
So short-term we need to change something and the biggest outness I see is in QB play with Russell. Even worse than DHB because at least DHB is non-existent only. Russell is non-existent (as far as production) and destructive (fumbles & interceptions galore….and his demeanor and work ethic)
November 8th, 2009 at 1:20 am
Kool Kell so what are you going to do? You’re not going to get Al Davis removed from being the Owner of the franchise. No matter how much you want to. So, let’s talk sense here. He could get a GM which would help (even while Gruden and Allen were here you could still see his footprints over tons of moves, but there was also someone bouncing ideas off him and getting some changes in standard operating procedure).
Right now? Why don’t we work out how to get a change in QB or do something we might be able to effect.
November 8th, 2009 at 1:22 am
MR,you are missing the point.today he is one of the worst,if not the worst,but what can we do about it-NOTHING.but i’m a Raider fan-not a whiner fan,not a donkey fan,not a fan of any other team.so it does me no good to get on here and biotch about him constantly.if it makes you feel better,fine,go for it.
November 8th, 2009 at 1:24 am
lefty, you didn’t answer my question. i asked you to name one GM in the league today worse than al. “he’s one of the worst, if not the worst” doesn’t answer the question. name one single gm worse than him, or kick rocks.
November 8th, 2009 at 1:24 am
Raiderzmaverick
I’m doing what, I’m gonna do. Spreadin the word.
Blacked out the remainder of the season, and I think the League/Davis will get the message. And another puppet Coach aint gonna fly next year either
November 8th, 2009 at 1:27 am
KoolKell, so if Al hires a legitimate GM you think we’ll start selling out even if the Wins don’t improve immediately?
November 8th, 2009 at 1:27 am
Oh what am I gonna do, sniff, sniff, I can’t do anything, sniff, sniff.
You can stand up like a man can’t cha?
November 8th, 2009 at 1:28 am
actually KK,many teams would be happy with 6 playoff appearances in 20 years.many teams would be happy that they were in the SB 7 years ago.am i happy with our record the last 7 years-hell no.but i’m not going to continually whine about it either.i will root for the team and hope they get better.unless i buy it,that is really all i can do.
November 8th, 2009 at 1:29 am
A New GM with unquestioned authority, would energize the fans like they haven’t been energized in decades. Then he would have to show progress.
November 8th, 2009 at 1:33 am
You’re a real “stand-up” guy eh Lefty?
November 8th, 2009 at 1:34 am
Gnite.
November 8th, 2009 at 1:36 am
KoolKell. I did notice one thing. If the Raiders win it’s despite of Mr. Davis. If they loose it’s all Davis’s fault.
So, if a GM comes in here and fails everyone will say that it is because of Mr. Davis.
It’s partially true. Right now what’s very true is that the past 7 years there have been some very poor personnel decisions and there hasn’t been a clear-cut plan which has been operated on. It’s been one-year plans I think which the ‘quick fix’ hasn’t worked. This year it looks different like they’re trying to build up something with the newer guys, but it is definitely being done all wrong. JLH and Shillens played last year at the end because they were performing. DHB this year is playing because he’s the first round pick. That’s what’s wrong. And if it’s Al’s choice or Cable’s choice I don’t knowl
November 8th, 2009 at 1:36 am
KK-yea,getting on a blog and whining 24 hours a day is standing up and being a man.i guess we are different in many ways.i follow football for enjoyment.granted there hasn’t been much enjoyment in following the Raiders in a long time,but i won’t let it eat at me the way you let it eat at you.if that happened,i’d quit.btw,i’m no pleasure to be around after most of our games anymore,but i let it go quicker than when i was younger.
MR,i should have known better than trying to have a decent discussion with you.you can’t have one without becoming confrontational.i will go back to what i usually do when i see anything you post-skip it.
November 8th, 2009 at 1:37 am
# KoolKell Says:
November 8th, 2009 at 1:32 am
No Lefty, you aint gonna whine, you aint gonna do shyt, but watch the man self-destruct.
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KoolKell you ain’t doin’ shyt also. If you think constantly whining about how Davis sucks is actually helping anything then you’re dilusional.
November 8th, 2009 at 1:40 am
KK,you have been on this blog for what,4 years now saying the same thing.please tell all of us how much impact that has had on the old man or the organization.i’ll answer that one for you-ABSOLUTELY NONE!
November 8th, 2009 at 1:41 am
Lefty, still waiting for you to name one GM worse than Al. Your continuous absence of an answer only proves my theory: There isn’t one!
November 8th, 2009 at 1:41 am
Do you really think attacking every raider fan who posts anything except “Al Davis Sucks” is helping?
November 8th, 2009 at 1:42 am
lefty, you’ve been on this blog 4 years saying the same thing too, giving fans guilt trips just for speaking their minds about this joke of an owner.
November 8th, 2009 at 1:42 am
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 8th, 2009 at 1:41 am
Lefty, still waiting for you to name one GM worse than Al. Your continuous absence of an answer only proves my theory: There isn’t one!
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I can’t name many other GMs….can you? I know Matt Millen was definitely worse. who’s GM for the Rams? Browns? Lions now?
November 8th, 2009 at 1:42 am
# raiderzmaverick Says:
November 8th, 2009 at 1:41 am
Do you really think attacking every raider fan who posts anything except “Al Davis Sucks” is helping?
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YES!
November 8th, 2009 at 1:43 am
Maverick, Matt Millen is no longer a GM. Try again.
November 8th, 2009 at 1:43 am
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 8th, 2009 at 1:42 am
lefty, you’ve been on this blog 4 years saying the same thing too, giving fans guilt trips just for speaking their minds about this joke of an owner.
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All I’ve seen is you and KK actually attacking anyone who said anything except state “Al Davis Sucks”
I think Al Davis is handling things horribly now. But you actually attack any fan who wants to say anything about the Organization or the game or the Team except for that.
November 8th, 2009 at 1:43 am
maverick, like lefty, the reason you “can’t” name a GM worse than Al is because there isn’t one.
November 8th, 2009 at 1:44 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 8th, 2009 at 1:43 am
Maverick, Matt Millen is no longer a GM. Try again.
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Jesus christ – you really are a schmuck. Hence “WAS” not “IS”.
November 8th, 2009 at 1:44 am
maverick, i didn’t ask you if Al davis was handling things normally now. i asked you to name one gm in the league worse than him. can you do it? of course not. because there isn’t one. which means al davis is the WORST. admit it.
November 8th, 2009 at 1:45 am
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 8th, 2009 at 1:42 am
# raiderzmaverick Says:
November 8th, 2009 at 1:41 am
Do you really think attacking every raider fan who posts anything except “Al Davis Sucks” is helping?
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YES!
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Then why are you still a Raiders fan?
November 8th, 2009 at 1:45 am
maverick, Millen was the only name you through out there. what is the point of bringing him up? he’s not a current GM. Name one ACTIVE GM worse than Al davis. you can’t, and you know it. because there isn’t one.
November 8th, 2009 at 1:46 am
maverick, i’m still a raider fan because i want to be on board enjoying all of the winning AFTER al is gone. Duh!
November 8th, 2009 at 1:46 am
RM….get a grip. I was saying…”I know Matt Millen was definitely worse.” I.E. he was worse when he was GM but he is no longer GM.
November 8th, 2009 at 1:48 am
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 8th, 2009 at 1:46 am
maverick, i’m still a raider fan because i want to be on board enjoying all of the winning AFTER al is gone. Duh!
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And you wouldn’t enjoy it if we win while he’s still alive and in power? That’s a pretty fucqed up fan.
November 8th, 2009 at 1:49 am
maverick, why do you keep bringing up Millen? Can you name one single GM today that’s worse than Al davis, or are you going to keep bringing up Millen? BTW, what makes you think Davis is better than Millen?
November 8th, 2009 at 1:49 am
Win with Al alive and in power? Ha, you’re funny.
November 8th, 2009 at 1:52 am
Again, I’m not saying Al is doing a good job. Far from it. At all. But, what I am saying is that you constantly attack any fan who has anything to say except Al Sucks.
We don’t need Al Davis to resign in order to win. We have won and lost both with him in power. He should give over some power to someone who he can lean on for sure like he did with Gruden and Allen. But we won with him still in power and we can win again with him in power. Don’t believe that all decisions during that period were not made by them. They had a basic agreement that worked together with.
Now, true, I think Al got greedy and ‘had to be right’ and that had a lot to do with Gruden leaving and us being in the prediciment we’re in. But, once Al steps back off his ‘having to be right’ about everything and does open the door to other points of view again with someone he trusts we can definitely win. And his input and knowledge is probably still valuable to winning. But he needs someone else there that he trusts. Not necessarily someone like you preach that he turns everything over to and leaves forever. But for sure the way he is running things there is none worse than what was created the last 7 years.
November 8th, 2009 at 1:54 am
confusedmaverick,
I didn’t ask you rather or not Al is doing a good job. I asked you to name one GM in the league today worse than him. Your lack of an answer only indicated one thing, and that is that there isn’t one. That means Al Davis is the worst GM in football, right? Admit it.
November 8th, 2009 at 1:55 am
raiderzmaverick Says:
November 8th, 2009 at 1:52 am
We don’t need Al Davis to resign in order to win.
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That makes no sense at all. How do you “win” with the worst GM in football? And, remember, you agree with me that he’s the worst GM in football! You haven’t been able to name anyone worse…
November 8th, 2009 at 2:00 am
There is no industry standard where one not having succeeded in 7 years is acceptable. not one, especially not the NFL. It doesn’t matter that Al won 7 years ago. It was 7 YEARS AGO! Don’t you get it? You know how much an old fart’s brain can deteriorate in 7 years?
November 8th, 2009 at 2:01 am
I think the product he’s gotten here for the last few years has been the worst.
But again, I couldn’t name you 5 other GMs so I definitely can’t name you the worst GM in football. Can you name me 5 other GMs out there without looking it up on Google?
November 8th, 2009 at 2:02 am
That makes no sense at all. How do you “win” with the worst GM in football? And, remember, you agree with me that he’s the worst GM in football! You haven’t been able to name anyone worse…
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You win just like we won in the past. By having a good enough support group around him.
It makes total sense. How did we win earlier this decade with still as the owner and we couldn’t do it again?
November 8th, 2009 at 2:04 am
One cop out after another on the GM question. Never mind. it’s too much for you to fess up to, I understand.
November 8th, 2009 at 2:05 am
Any coach or GM worth a damn isn’t going to come here without getting complete control, anyway, so that means if they came here, Al would be out. So, Gruden coming back and winning wouldn’t be any thanks to Al from a GM standpoint.
November 8th, 2009 at 2:06 am
Now if we keep hiring people without experience as a head coach or without a winning record of course we’ll keep loosing. So, I’d try to persuade Al to change his strategy as far as coaches go and as far as having a GM…sure. But we could win with him still here…as long as there were the other pieces in place as well.
November 8th, 2009 at 2:07 am
Admit it, confused maverick. if something were to happen to prevent al from running the raiders any longer, the raiders would improve immediate. rather it be arrest, indictment, whatever. the raiders immediately get better, and you know it. so why shouldn’t we wish death or imprisonment or something on al? it would just mean the raiders are going to be better.
November 8th, 2009 at 2:09 am
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 8th, 2009 at 2:05 am
Any coach or GM worth a damn isn’t going to come here without getting complete control, anyway, so that means if they came here, Al would be out. So, Gruden coming back and winning wouldn’t be any thanks to Al from a GM standpoint.
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Do you really think that Al Davis just set down the reigns for the 4 years that we won and then just picked them up the other years before and after that?
So, yes, we CAN win with him here. And, I do think we could get a descent coach. I remember when Norv Turner was hired (which was a joke really) we had a lot of good coaches who wanted to coach here. Sean Payton (who I keep seeing brought up) was basically saying he was coming to Oakland. Instead we hired Norv. Bad decision Mr. Davis and worse decisions since then. But, we could get a good coach in here with similar conditions that Gruden had and win.
November 8th, 2009 at 2:10 am
We could win with Al still owner, as long as he’s nowhere near football operations. he doesn’t know anything about today’s game, and it’s obvious. if al’s making any, and i mean ANY, football related decisions, the raiders suck. period. go ahead, try and argue against that without reaching 7 years into the history vault.
November 8th, 2009 at 2:10 am
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 8th, 2009 at 2:07 am
Admit it, confused maverick. if something were to happen to prevent al from running the raiders any longer, the raiders would improve immediate. rather it be arrest, indictment, whatever. the raiders immediately get better, and you know it. so why shouldn’t we wish death or imprisonment or something on al? it would just mean the raiders are going to be better.
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I don’t know about immediately. At first there would be a lot of confusion as the decision making point would no longer be there. And there are tons of other teams that are only ever mediocre at best, so magically why do you think we’d suddenly be the elite?
November 8th, 2009 at 2:12 am
confused maverick, you keep bringing up the Gruden years. IT WAS NEARLY A DECADE AGO! get with it, man. Al Davis is old. REALLY old. do you realize how much an old fart’s brain can rot in 7 years? There is no industry with a standard which tolerates 7 years of failure. ESPECIALLY not the NFL!
November 8th, 2009 at 2:12 am
# The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 8th, 2009 at 2:10 am
We could win with Al still owner, as long as he’s nowhere near football operations. he doesn’t know anything about today’s game, and it’s obvious. if al’s making any, and i mean ANY, football related decisions, the raiders suck. period. go ahead, try and argue against that without reaching 7 years into the history vault.
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I’m not arguing with you. I do believe he’s not as up to date as he used to be. Probably he’s just damned old and doesn’t get as much film study and time put into it like he used to. Everything takes work to keep up to date. Which is why he needs support probably from a GM and a coach. Heck he probably SHOULD turn over all his power. But you keep insisting we can never win unless he does. And I don’t think that’s the ONLY solution. Is it the BEST solution – YES! Is it the ONLY one? No. And as he’s probably not going to do it anytime soon, I just hope he can find someone he trusts enough to lean on a bit with the decision making process.
November 8th, 2009 at 2:15 am
confused maverick, i dont’ care who al hires, if he’s even remotely involved with football operations, they won’t win more than 5 games in any season. you know that. stop trying to lie to yourself and definitely stop trying to lie to me.
November 8th, 2009 at 2:18 am
Goodnight, confused maverick. i’m going to go pray that Al dies, then hit the sack. see ya.
November 8th, 2009 at 2:19 am
Hey mrs,stfu,buffoon! Youre question for Maverick is based on a false premise,that being that Al is a gm.The Oakland Raiders are the rare team that doesnt have a gm,AL is the OWNER,the managing General Partner,guess you forgot! So,youre question should be,whos the best GP,and that would be Al! At some point,I see Al hiring a Gm,but for now,Al is the GP,get it?
November 8th, 2009 at 2:21 am
I think the GM brought in a lot of talent here. Seymore & Ellis. Nmadi. Morrison. Tyvon Branch. Lechler & Seabass. Henderson & Gallery. Miller. Heck Schillens has great potential that he hopefully lives up to.
All fans have said how incredible Bush is (and I believe he actually could be).
I think if you take DHB out of the game and Russell out of the game until they show they can perform and let others who are playing better to play then we would have won 50% of our games this year.
November 8th, 2009 at 3:14 am
Hey Raider fans, I’ve got an idea:
Let’s hire Matt Millen as our GM — just look at all the wonderful things he did while he was up in Detroit. He dresses in black, rides a motorcycle and is a former badboy for the Raiders … who wuld be better to come in and continue the abomination that currently is the Tarnished and Black?
November 8th, 2009 at 4:30 am
vinnies doing a great job in washington eh mr?
Damn he’s a fine GM,lol
November 8th, 2009 at 5:15 am
Morning NATION!!!
November 8th, 2009 at 5:21 am
things 2do 2day…
1.get shopping done 4 the week
2.wear my Lester Hayes jersey while shopping
3.Maybe go 2 the seaside 4 a beer or 3 and answer questions from single good-looking girls as 2 why I stick with da Raiders
4.Tell them when I like or love something like the Raiders,I’m committed
5.Seems the ladies like that word commitment
6.And loike every Sunday hope 4 the best LOL
November 8th, 2009 at 5:43 am
The hate for the Raiders was strong in here last night.
The entire thread was one big mindorgasm for a couple of burger flipping, bi polar betas with nothing better to do with life then spread hate.
I bet these two are the first ones to yell racism everytime a white boy farts.
November 8th, 2009 at 5:47 am
thats true Plunketthead that is sooo true
November 8th, 2009 at 6:06 am
yep it will be interesting as 2 what will be worked on.Soo much 2do.
Why cant Jmac read…a defence =)
Why cant DHB or Murphy catch a ball???
Henderson,Gallery,Satelle,Barnes and L.Walker would make 4 a good run game,imo
November 8th, 2009 at 6:27 am
Man that Rogers guy had his chance last night against Fedor. That Russian dude has his spectacular wins, but he seemed very beatable, his face was a mess!!
Doesn’t Madden Raider have something better to do on Sat night than try to push guys around on a Raider blog? And it is his same act, maybe if he was trotting out fresh material I would get it. Who wants to repeat the same tireless argument for a couple of hours on a Sat night?
November 8th, 2009 at 6:31 am
Very true what Jerry said about our WR’s never going up and making a catch. JHill always talks about it.
I remember last year in the Denver game, maybe Jamarcus’ best game, guys going up and making great catches all game. In the Texans game last year, one of Russell’s TD passes was a wobbler thrown into double-coverage in the endzone, but JLH made a great adjustment and a difficult leaping catch.
Other than Miller, I can’t even think of an example of a WR or even RB making a difficult catch this year. I really can’t, maybe Watkins catch in the KC game is about the best I can do. Anyone else think of one?
November 8th, 2009 at 7:53 am
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November 8th, 2009 at 8:06 am
Remember the TD catch Curry made in the snow in Denver? That was one of the greatest catches I have ever seen.
November 8th, 2009 at 8:19 am
I guess some one forgot to tell KK he is Black!! Stop being a racist bigot you bastard. It’s funny how someone like yourself try to stereotype me??
November 8th, 2009 at 8:27 am
Lou Rankin is going to get some carries today up in Seattle, against the crappy Lions. Interesting to see what he does with it.
November 8th, 2009 at 8:29 am
RaiderO,
Hows that Miller to Pro Bowl prediction working out for you??
November 8th, 2009 at 8:32 am
Not too well as you can see.
November 8th, 2009 at 8:48 am
If he played on a real offense with an NFL QB he probably would be a PBer.
November 8th, 2009 at 8:52 am
Vegas I put Rankin and Nick Miller on BOTH my FF leagues
November 8th, 2009 at 8:56 am
What are the chances that Jamarcus is up and studying the Chiefs game in an hour?
November 8th, 2009 at 9:01 am
4 eva,
Rankin and Miller on your fant team? Please explain your thinking there….
November 8th, 2009 at 9:10 am
Well…with a record of 3-5 in one league and 2-6 in the other…will try anthing and plus I got some starters on bye week and it was stated on FF Notes Rankin will get carries.And I had Willie Parker has turf-toe and N.Miller was available.I know its a long shot with Rankin but YOU NEVER KNOW.
I personally didnt want 2 let him go but w/e
November 8th, 2009 at 9:14 am
Dude Says:
November 8th, 2009 at 8:29 am
RaiderO,
Hows that Miller to Pro Bowl prediction working out for you??
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I am all for constructive criticism of this team and Al Davis in particular. But slamming a Raider fan for having some optimism for one of our best players and making a prediction that wasn’t too far fetched at the time?
Dude, are you a Raider fan? Seriously.
November 8th, 2009 at 9:14 am
Thanks for everything, Al. The tradition, uniform, mystique etc of the Raiders. But he’s holding it back the last x number of years. As someone said, the Raiders do need a breath of fresh air in the football department. A fine tooth comb to come in and dismantle all that’s not working, get rid of dead weight, and improve the football department. It’s all about Systems. After a while systems start to get dated, tired, lack ideas, and have things growing inside them that hinder the intended original set-up of the system. Companies do it often, bring in someone to clean up the system, etc.
We dont want to lose the things that make us unique: our traditions, uniform, mystique etc. But we do want a new influence at the football department. The whole tyrannical thing of Al insisting everything be run/done a certain way DESPITE those certain ways no longer working, is a recipe for continued disaster.
November 8th, 2009 at 9:18 am
SnB,
Shut your hole. You dont know what your speaking on. RaiderO and I had many a discussion about the subject and if you had read my follow up post you would see the conversation was ambiable.
And the prediction was as far fetched as they come and has been proven so beyond a shadow of a doubt.
November 8th, 2009 at 9:22 am
GG,
What’s frustrating and absolutely damning is that all Al Davis has/had to do was the following:
1. Allow the doggone coach to pick his assistants
2. Allow the doggone coach to determine the starting lineup based on (practice, discipline, attitude, leadership)
3. Give the coach SOME leeway to adjust Al’s scheme based on the opponent. (notice how I didn’t say allow the coach to determine the scheme)
4. Let the coach discipline players…like overweight QBs that refuse to work hard
Because Davis won’t let the basics happen…I really can’t respect him as a leader. He can keep the draft and continue screwing that up…just let the coach be able to do his job. This is why no coach with a credible head coaching future would take this job
Al Davis is out of his mind!
November 8th, 2009 at 9:22 am
4 eava,
Rankin wont get more than 3 or 4 touches up here today so DO NOT play him. Jones and Forsett are both ahead of him.
I really dont see the Miller pickup unless you get points for returns. Its doubtful he will even get 1 catch the whole season.
November 8th, 2009 at 9:23 am
That was the last time I let my optimism get the best of me. For the last 7 seasons, every year I thought was going to be diff, I could just feel it, and I was wrong every single time.
November 8th, 2009 at 9:23 am
Dude,
All your usual vitrol aside.
Is the Raiders your favorite team?
November 8th, 2009 at 9:26 am
You seriously wonder if an opposing team played without a defensive secondary if the raiders could win a game? Lets say a team played with a front 7 only. I doubt Jabustus and Co. could even comlete passes under those conditions. Even when they have tons of time Jabustus is so off the mark no one could catch the ball. And with Wayward-Gay running downfield and not even looking back at the QB the chances are even slimmer. The way these clowns play, I seen drunk fat guys in the parking lot look like better passing offenses.
November 8th, 2009 at 9:27 am
IS the Raiders my favorite team?? LOL!
ARE the Raiders my favorite team? When they become a NFL team again they will be.
Are they yours?
November 8th, 2009 at 9:29 am
SnB…
For sure, very right what you say. It’s just lunacy from Al. The problem as you know is Al has no accountability. So it’s always going to end up being where the “Raiders” itself is just this little hobby of his, something that gives him ‘joy’ in his otherwise old and frail life now. Like a toy train set in the basement for an old retiree. Only when there’s accountability at GM, and thus HC, and thus staff and players, can things improve. But this tyrannical ownership/GM structure, especially with him getting more and more stubborn, paranoid, too proud, megalomaniac and myopic, means he’s just running the whole thing into the ground and always living in self-denial about its true state. Like a guy who thrashes his car till the engine blows up.
November 8th, 2009 at 9:30 am
Look at Denver! I don’t think they have more talent than us, but they do have a better Coach. They are 6-1. I still believe we have more talent than KC & Denver, but we lack coaching.
November 8th, 2009 at 9:32 am
Fire Cable & Hire Jim Harbaugh!!
November 8th, 2009 at 9:35 am
a wing and a prayer Fri, Nov 6
Rankin is expected to get at least a handful of carries this week vs. Detroit so the Seahawks can better evaluate him, the Associated Press reports.
Recommendation: Seattle’s running game has done a whole lot of nothing, so the Seahawks have little risk in running Rankin. If he shows something Sunday, he could be an interesting pickup.
(Rotowire.com) Thu, Nov 5
No one is quite sure just how much Rankin will be used on Sunday when the slumping Seahawks host Detroit. About the only guarantee is it seems obvious the guy cut from the Oakland Raiders earlier this season likely will get his first NFL carry taking over the role held by Edgerrin James before his release.
Advice: Since being signed by the Seahawks, Rankin has caused headaches for Seattle’s No. 1 defense as a scout team back. His natural speed is a change-up the Seahawks hope can help boost a run game averaging just 89 yards per game. Fantasy owners should take a long, hard look at Rankin, who has refused effusive praise from coach Jim Mora.
(STATS, Inc.)
November 8th, 2009 at 9:36 am
Even tho you love up there Dude…I may as well take a chance
November 8th, 2009 at 9:37 am
Denver has waaaaaaaaaaay more talent at QB…as of now,imo
November 8th, 2009 at 9:38 am
Or like a guy who has a drug problem but cant face it or admit it. Or like a girl who suffers from anorexia. Intervention is needed, not sycophants and shills.
Al can remain owner, that’s fine, just need a proper GM, someone with great reputation/standing as a football guy. And give him the authority to rule the football department. If he doesnt do a good job of it…then Al would have justification to fire him, because the GM would be accountable!
November 8th, 2009 at 9:38 am
4eva,
Ok, good luck.
November 8th, 2009 at 9:40 am
Pffft…Denver has more talent everywhere than the Raiders.
November 8th, 2009 at 9:41 am
SnB,
recall the definition of “Dude”. – a kind of dandy, characterized by over-affectedness in manners, dress etc. – in other words, a character of nothing substantial.
To this day there are ranches where these types will pay to be around real people. They need taken care of as they don’t know how to build a fire, make cowboy coffee, roll a cigarette or which end of a horse is more likely to cause them harm. And yet, they still won’t lay down on a bedroll under the stars, instead they will rent some fine and fancy cabins where they can practice their dudism while pretending to be something they are not.
Any person calling themselves “dude” is by definition plasticine and of no consequence.
good morning.
November 8th, 2009 at 9:42 am
thankx Dude!!!
November 8th, 2009 at 9:43 am
Raider O Says:
November 8th, 2009 at 9:32 am
Fire Cable & Hire Jim Harbaugh!!
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No! If Davis insists on keeping this structure where the coach doesn’t have ownership of his staff, players, game planning etc…
Might as well stick with a coach that is happy collecting a check and being a mouthpiece for Davis.
Davis has really only hired a couple of decent coaches.
2 Great Coaches – Flores and Madden
1 Decent Coach – Gruden
Flores and Madden were from simpler times. Davis was the 1st owner to embrace the “Just Win” philosophy and thus had a head start in collecting good players with flaws whereas others wouldn’t. Davis also embraced players from Historically Black Colleges etc….
Gruden is just a fiery guy who was smart enough to know how to manage Davis enough to get by.
But in the end…Davis has to change his management style for this team to have a chance to win.
EVERY COMPLAINT one can have with this team leads back to the owner
November 8th, 2009 at 9:46 am
Im starting Rankin today in my fantasy league, in one of the flex spots. Why not have a punt, plus every week there’s always some regular starter who puts up poor stats and brings like 5 fantasy pts in. So might as well try something, knowing that the rest of the 15 starters can support a low scorer if Rankin does do little.
November 8th, 2009 at 9:47 am
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
November 8th, 2009 at 9:43 am
EVERY COMPLAINT one can have with this team leads back to the owner
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That’s such a cop out. The team can still struggle and not quit the way they have a few times this year (you watched in person one of them).
November 8th, 2009 at 9:48 am
4eva,
Do you really think Orton has more talent than JR?! I don’t think so, but I think Josh McD has a lot more talent than Cable!
November 8th, 2009 at 9:51 am
Vegas Raider,
The team quits because it has bad character players. Who picks all the players?
The team quits because the coaches aren’t very good at preparation?
Who picks the coaches and assistants?
The team quits because the scheme is so rigid
Who insists on the scheme AND the way its played and called?
The team quits because they aren’t prepared?
Who allows the players free reign and hires coaches not qualified (Sanjay Lal)?
It all goes back to the Owner.
November 8th, 2009 at 9:51 am
# Raider O Says:
November 8th, 2009 at 9:30 am
Look at Denver! I don’t think they have more talent than us, but they do have a better Coach. They are 6-1. I still believe we have more talent than KC & Denver, but we lack coaching.
O
O-line is better than Clady and Harris 
RB’s is better than Moreno 
are better than Marshall, Royal or Stokely 
have a LB better than any of Denver’s 
honestly think that they are better than Bailey, Dawkins etc. 
JR over Orton
Who on your
Which of your
What receivers do you
Do you
DB’s might compare but do you
November 8th, 2009 at 9:52 am
yes…4 now I do…Orten can read a D,Jmac cant,yet
November 8th, 2009 at 9:54 am
SnB,
The owner hires the coaches, so I some what agree with you. This team is young, it’s has tanlent, not enough to win a SB, enough to win 7-9 games, but we don’t have a HC, DC, WR Coach, RBs Coach, and we need more talent at the front 7 of the D.
November 8th, 2009 at 9:54 am
Raider O Says:
November 8th, 2009 at 9:48 am
4eva,
Do you really think Orton has more talent than JR?! I don’t think so, but I think Josh McD has a lot more talent than Cable!
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What good is talent if its not cultivated and exploited. Does Russell work hard? Are his coaches any good?
You are studying business right now. I compare talent to revenue. What good is revenue if it doesn’t flow to the bottom line profit. Right now Russell is like General Motors — A ton of revenue/talent that loses money and is in bankruptcy.
Meanwhile, you have guys like Drew Brees who don’t have all the talent in the world (he’s a smallish guy) but busts his azz and is a leader. He would be like a company with small revenues but has such huge profit margins that you can get rich with him
November 8th, 2009 at 9:56 am
RaiderO,
So, Josh is a genius? All I can think is that he has taken Belicheating to a new level.
A defense that was last in the world a season ago develops (until last week) under Nolan into a unit giving up no points and no third down conversions (something Nolan never accomplished even with the Ravens crew).
There is something fishy going on in Donkeyland.
November 8th, 2009 at 10:02 am
Trolls,
Yeah dude I do.
-Nnamdi is better than Champ!
-Our Ss are better than Ol Man Dawkins & the Scrubs.
-Our LB are about the Same, but hard to compare now cause they play 3-4.
-Our Dline with Sey, Ellis, Scott, & the rookies is better.
Their front 7 & their entire Defense is playing much better as a unit than our D.
Our Oline is about the Same.
-They have Glady, and we Mario. They have Harris & we have Gallery!
-Their QB is playing better in a QB friendly Offense.
-our RBs are Better!
- Out TE is Better.
- They have better WRs.
BTW, how is coaching?
November 8th, 2009 at 10:04 am
Today I get
Cheating pats – tunafish
gayniners – tennesee tits
cards – da bears
Someone should be fired. We seldom get good games.
November 8th, 2009 at 10:05 am
RaiderO,
LOL
God bless your Raider homer heart! Your taking to new levels though buddy with your last post..
November 8th, 2009 at 10:07 am
M,
That or they just took advantage of a very weak Division.
November 8th, 2009 at 10:09 am
Trolls,
I’m not going to argue that one. I’m a Homer. lol
November 8th, 2009 at 10:10 am
SnB,
Look at the Bengals. It has bad character players, and they have had the same cheap ownership and family involved forever (the GM is the owner’s daughter, LOL)
The team has quit on Marvin Lewis the last couple of years, yet they brought him back, even though they were worse than the Raiders last year. And they are getting nothing (again) out of their first-round pick and had the longest holdout of anyone.
What really changed this year? They players pieced it together, they have a smart veteran QB and they are trying harder. They might not make the playoffs and stink again next year, but at least they are competing right now.
November 8th, 2009 at 10:11 am
Raider O
I also think Josh McD is a better play-caller and coach than Cable.8 years with Bill-a-Cheat,I think.So 1 would think and say he SHOULD be better than Cable at this point.Like its been beaten 2 death…We YOUNG almost everywhere
November 8th, 2009 at 10:15 am
Vegas Raider,
As far as I can tell…Marvin Lewis does have control of the scheme and playcalling. He has disciplined players before. Although I admit he doesn’t have control of choosing the roster….he does have control in choosing the starting lineup.
Davis’ biggest fault is his insistence in getting deeply involved in matters that belong to the head coach. And its for that reason the Raiders will have a hard time winning consistently ever again.
November 8th, 2009 at 10:16 am
asking the owner for permission to call more blitzes?
Give me an effin break!
November 8th, 2009 at 10:17 am
4eva,
I want a new HC: Jim Harbaugh, Fassell, or Del Rio ( we hire a great OC, and give him complete control of the Offense & play calling).
Who do you want?
Fire Cable!
November 8th, 2009 at 10:18 am
SnB,
It wasn’t a problem when John G was here!
November 8th, 2009 at 10:27 am
SnB,
I am not absolving Al of any of the blame. He is hiring coaches that only believe in his out-dated coaching style. Davis doesn’t have to tell Cable to send 4 guys deep in another 7 step drop, Cable would do it anyways.
We need a new, energetic coach, have a decent draft and get a QB who make good decisions. We can be 8-8 easily with this D and ST.
Fassel and Losman in 2010!!
November 8th, 2009 at 10:32 am
# 4evaRaider Says:
November 8th, 2009 at 5:21 am
things 2do 2day…
1.get shopping done 4 the week
2.wear my Lester Hayes jersey while shopping
3.Maybe go 2 the seaside 4 a beer or 3 and answer questions from single good-looking girls as 2 why I stick with da Raiders
4.Tell them when I like or love something like the Raiders,I’m committed
5.Seems the ladies like that word commitment
6.And loike every Sunday hope 4 the best LOL
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Dude, you have a snow balls chance in hell of single good looking girls giving a rats ass on why you stick with raiders.
You honestly believe single good looking girls pay attention to standings?
In other words, you’re coming home alone..lol…again.
November 8th, 2009 at 10:33 am
SnB,
You are a smart man. I enjoy reading all your post, but I think you are being a little extreme with the Davis issue, and you ignore the fact that other teams have the same issue, and this wasn’t a problem when John G was here. Loot at the Bengals, Redskins, and Cowboys. They have thane owner type as Al. The Bengals & Boys are doing well this season.
IMHO I think it all comes down to Coaching, and for that I blame Al!
November 8th, 2009 at 10:35 am
Our Oline is about the Same.
-They have Glady, and we Mario. They have Harris & we have Gallery!
-Their QB is playing better in a QB friendly Offense.
-our RBs are Better!
- Out TE is Better.
- They have better WRs.
BTW, how is coaching?
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I respect your 
opinion 
I 
don’t understand it 
But, I 
respect it 
Coaching was great, the kids’ are a year older and we’re still one of the youngest teams in the league. But we ran the gambit this year. We went to a tournament in Kigman, AZ in early fall and took 2nd. Went to one in El Paso after the season and took it. Then went to one in Scottsdale and took 4th.
November 8th, 2009 at 10:36 am
Vegas,
I think Cable is a particularly awful head coach. At least for the 1st 8wks….
Fassel wouldn’t be too bad. At least he has NFL experience and would cover some of the basics that I think are missing from CAble and his staff.
As for QB..
Bulger, Grossman, Campbell and Vick should be our targets.
Sad. I don’t think you can win with other people’s discards. But at least those guys can get us to compete. And competing is the best we can ask for under Al Davis.
November 8th, 2009 at 10:39 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 8th, 2009 at 12:59 am
I think priest is really Jerry just messing with us, keeping the blog active
lmfao
November 8th, 2009 at 10:44 am
I think we need a coaching change. If for no other reason as he doesn’t hold people accountable (or more like he holds a double standard).
I think if we bench Jamarcus and DHB and let others play we would win half of our games to end the year. Hell it’s not playoff calibar, but it’s a hell of a lot better than we’re doing.
I think if we sat them the first 8 games we’d be 4 – 4 or 5 – 3 now. Serious. That’s how much I think they’re effect the team negatively. Firstly through their attitude (lack of work preparation) and delusion (we’re doing great) and even MORE so because of their poor play. I think Russell has more turnovers to his name between fumbles and interceptions than the entirety most other teams combined.
November 8th, 2009 at 10:44 am
Trolls,
The Raiders are sorry, but atleast your team is a winner. That should make it things better. Maybe the Raiders should hire you. Trolls as the Motivation Coach! lol
November 8th, 2009 at 10:44 am
I’ll pass on Campbell and especially Bulger, but Vick is the wildcard, and I’m sure Al will at least inquire on his availability if Russell continues with his gigantic step backwards.
November 8th, 2009 at 10:46 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 8th, 2009 at 12:59 am
I think priest is really Jerry just messing with us, keeping the blog active
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Their is no way Jerry can dumb down that much. You can’t learn that level of dumb. You can’t fake that level of dumb.
Priest has officially become the boards pinata…at least until OakDork/BS shows up.
Priest paints a target on his forehead and points to it.
OakDork paints a target on his forehead, points to it, then takes the arrow and jams it in just to make sure you don’t miss.
November 8th, 2009 at 10:47 am
If we had Gradowski in we would have half the turnovers, wouldn’t meaning opponents wouldn’t have scored as many points. We would have more drives (not as many 3 and outs and for sure not 4 games in a row with under 200 yards).
He would be kind of like Orten I think. Moving the chains. Not making many mistakes. Somehow creating first downs here and there where plays were lost.
Not that I think Gradowski is our solution. But his play would be so much more accurate and mistake-free we could win. That’s what I believe. And I don’t think we’d have had the blow-out in NY when Russell Fumbled the first drive and then intercepted the 2nd and before 10 minutes into the game they were up 14 – 0. That’s pretty damned demoralizing and I don’t totally blame them for going into apathy and playing like it at that point.
November 8th, 2009 at 10:47 am
You see that one-handed catch by Randy Moss?
Yeah, when we had Moss here, a player who wasn’t just satisfied to take a paycheck, who demanded competency, all you Al Davis cronies had a fit.
November 8th, 2009 at 10:49 am
vegas raider Says:
November 8th, 2009 at 10:44 am
I’ll pass on Campbell and especially Bulger, but Vick is the wildcard, and I’m sure Al will at least inquire on his availability if Russell continues with his gigantic step backwards.
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The more I think about it…I think Vick is the guy for the Raiders. He’s a reclamation project that fell out of favor due to off the field issues. It was not his on the field play that got him in his situation.
Given that we are trying to find a retread QB…I think Vick gives you the most upside. All those other guys are available for a reason….because their play is garbage!
Go get Vick
November 8th, 2009 at 10:49 am
# Raider O Says:
November 8th, 2009 at 10:44 am
Trolls,
The Raiders are sorry, but atleast your team is a winner. That should make it things better. Maybe the Raiders should hire you. Trolls as the Motivation Coach! lol
I’d
coach them just like I do my 
kids. With a lot of 
and a litle bit of 
November 8th, 2009 at 10:49 am
# vegas raider Says:
November 8th, 2009 at 10:44 am
I’ll pass on Campbell and especially Bulger, but Vick is the wildcard, and I’m sure Al will at least inquire on his availability if Russell continues with his gigantic step backwards.
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Well, Vick would certainly fit the line of QBs we pick. Strong Armed QBs who need to work on intelligence, accuracy and decision making issues. Not what I’d like to get thanks.
Why do you want to bring in another Aaron Brooks? Or Jeff George? Or Andrew Walter for that matter…
November 8th, 2009 at 10:50 am
I would give JR another Chance under a new HC, Coaching staff, and better Talent around him at Oline & WRs.
November 8th, 2009 at 10:52 am
Why would you want to bring in Vick. He’s basically another Russell….but more athletic to make plays on the run. His average completion percentage was 53% while he was playing. He’s completing 33% this year (on limited appearance). It was 55% and 52% his last 2 years in Atlanta.
November 8th, 2009 at 10:53 am
Raider O,
Who is that head coach going to be? Will it be someone that is competent?
Fassell is the best choice. I am deeply disappointed in Cable. All he had to do was build on last year. yet he goes with all this bizarre offseason strategy and rips up the playbook.
Maybe Davis will be so sick and tired too and change his ways
November 8th, 2009 at 10:53 am
KoolKell Says:
November 8th, 2009 at 10:47 am
You see that one-handed catch by Randy Moss?
Yeah, when we had Moss here, a player who wasn’t just satisfied to take a paycheck, who demanded competency, all you Al Davis cronies had a fit.
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Ummmm……I seem to remember Moss being THE BIGGEST CULPRIT of just collecting a paycheck when he was here.
November 8th, 2009 at 10:53 am
I think we need a coaching change. If for no other reason as he doesn’t hold people accountable (or more like he holds a double standard).
I think if we bench Jamarcus and DHB and let others play we would win half of our games to end the year. Hell it’s not playoff calibar, but it’s a hell of a lot better than we’re doing.
I think if we sat them the first 8 games we’d be 4 – 4 or 5 – 3 now. Serious. That’s how much I think they’re effect the team negatively. Firstly through their attitude (lack of work preparation) and delusion (we’re doing great) and even MORE so because of their poor play. I think Russell has more turnovers to his name between fumbles and interceptions than the entirety most other teams combined.
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The head coach has no authority to bench players.
Al benches players, and Al decides when the benching is over.
the head coach knows that
the players know that
owner makes sure of the above
After game 4 Cable takes over.
Kwame Harris was leading the league in penalties.
Wasn’t until AFTER game 12 that Harris was benched, after he was so far ahead in total penalties, that even with only 12 games, he still led the league at the end of the year.
That was Al keeping in Harris..because Al took so much flak for signing the Niners outcast bust. Same as with Russell being benched for a half, and only a half.
That’s one reason no quality head coach will ever take the job..who the hell wants to deal with the owner telling you that you’re not in charge, he is?
November 8th, 2009 at 10:53 am
I’d keep JR and give him a chance, but not a free meal ticket. He hasn’t put in the work to deserve it or shown any sort of improvement.
And, he doesn’t have the drive to get better (as evidenced by the statement in the last game after throwing for 105 yards and having 1 interception and 1 fumble that “I think I did good”.)
November 8th, 2009 at 10:56 am
Richochet Says:
November 8th, 2009 at 10:53 am
After game 4 Cable takes over.
Kwame Harris was leading the league in penalties.
Wasn’t until AFTER game 12 that Harris was benched, after he was so far ahead in total penalties, that even with only 12 games, he still led the league at the end of the year.
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I don’t think that was Davis’s doing to keep Harris in. Look at how eager (honestly eager) Cable is to put in the reigning false start champ Green when he comes back.
November 8th, 2009 at 10:59 am
I think that Cable does pick favorites and keeps them in and does have bias towards keeping some players in.
Kiffin did the same stupid thing. He kept playing that QB even though it was obvious it wasn’t the solution to win (I forgot his name). That WASN’T an Al David type of QB if the steriotype is true.
Some (like Morrison) Cable put their jobs up for grabs even though they were #5 in the league in tackles. Others (like QB and WR) never get a competition.
Bush actually is the highest Yards Per Carry back we have, but he gets the least # of carries. Becasue Cable has a preference for Fargas and Mc Fadden was a high pick so we gotta play him (just like Russell & DHB).
That’s what pisses me off
November 8th, 2009 at 11:01 am
for anyone who wants to bring Vick in….look at his stats please
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/V/VickMi00.htm?redir
He’s never had a year that an average passer would have.
November 8th, 2009 at 11:03 am
Vegas
You are right about the attitude changing. Players have come together and many owners would have fired Marvin.
Cincy D started jelling last year. Palmer seems to have recovered and he has great WR help plus Benson.
They are a dangerous team.
November 8th, 2009 at 11:04 am
SnB,
I like Fassel. I also like Harbaugh and Del Rio. The onlw way I want Del Rio is if he gets an established OC and to give him total control of the Offense and play calling. Del Rio’s is a great motivator HC, but he knows nothing about the Offense!
November 8th, 2009 at 11:06 am
raiderzmaverick Says:
November 8th, 2009 at 11:01 am
for anyone who wants to bring Vick in….look at his stats please
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/V/VickMi00.htm?redir
He’s never had a year that an average passer would have.
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But he’s learning with Reid, Morningweigh and McNabb in an offense that is far more complex than the stuff the Raiders run.
Plus Vick has legs. What good is a great passer when you have the worst receivers in the league.
Vick can create and this offense badly needs that. Plus Vick knows how to find a tight end. Well tight end is the best position we have on offense.
November 8th, 2009 at 11:07 am
Raiderzmaverick Says:
November 8th, 2009 at 10:59 am
I think that Cable does pick favorites and keeps them in and does have bias towards keeping some players in.
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Just keep regurgitating stupid puke forever.
Cable can’t even pick his own assistants. How the Fuk do you figure he can play his favorites?
Kwame Harris was being paid 5 Million Dollars By Al Davis. Mario Henderson was getting paid peanuts & change.
Get a Friggin Clue!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 8th, 2009 at 11:08 am
Plunketthead Says:
November 8th, 2009 at 11:03 am
Vegas
You are right about the attitude changing. Players have come together and many owners would have fired Marvin.
Cincy D started jelling last year. Palmer seems to have recovered and he has great WR help plus Benson.
They are a dangerous team.
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Mike Brown (Cincy) does not tell Marvin Lewis the scheme to run against a certain team. Mike Brown does not pick Marvin Lewis’ assistants..so the coaches have a better chance of being on the same page.
Mike Brown didn’t force Andre Smith into the lineup yet. He’s inactive today but was available.
meanwhile we get to watch Darius Heyward-Bust every week
November 8th, 2009 at 11:09 am
Plus, Mike Brown had the good sense to pick Rey Mauluga.
November 8th, 2009 at 11:11 am
Hats off to Ricky Williams. Nice guy who was villified for being different and smoking weed. He just scored on a 15 yard run.
Nice “comeback” story.
November 8th, 2009 at 11:12 am
Dolphins are running the option for a TD ….LOL
November 8th, 2009 at 11:13 am
Plunketthead Says:
November 8th, 2009 at 11:11 am
Hats off to Ricky Williams. Nice guy who was villified for being different and smoking weed. He just scored on a 15 yard run.
Nice “comeback” story.
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I think Vick could be a comeback story too. Give his agent a call
November 8th, 2009 at 11:13 am
Why do you guys keep entertaining priesttj? Learn to talk at him and not to him. When you’re at the Zoo and it says dont feed the animals do you reach in your pocket and throw peanuts in the cage?
Me either..
November 8th, 2009 at 11:15 am
Miami was 1-15 two years ago
November 8th, 2009 at 11:17 am
Not only can Jerry not be that dumb but I’ve heard priest for years call talk radio, they are not 1 in the same. I know its hard to imagine but he is really a deranged loon that refuses to accept reality and then he maginifies his own stupidity by calling all of us stupid.
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Richochet Says:
November 8th, 2009 at 10:46 am
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 8th, 2009 at 12:59 am
I think priest is really Jerry just messing with us, keeping the blog active
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Their is no way Jerry can dumb down that much. You can’t learn that level of dumb. You can’t fake that level of dumb.
Priest has officially become the boards pinata…at least until OakDork/BS shows up.
Priest paints a target on his forehead and points to it.
OakDork paints a target on his forehead, points to it, then takes the arrow and jams it in just to make sure you don’t miss.
November 8th, 2009 at 11:18 am
SnB
Vick did not look fast last couple clips I have seen. His feet use to move much quicker.
November 8th, 2009 at 11:20 am
Rico said
“That’s one reason no quality head coach will ever take the job..who the hell wants to deal with the owner telling you that you’re not in charge, he is?”
Thats why we may be better off with cable for another year to see if we can get to 8-8
November 8th, 2009 at 11:25 am
SnB said
Mike Brown (Cincy) does not tell Marvin Lewis the scheme to run against a certain team. Mike Brown does not pick Marvin Lewis’ assistants..so the coaches have a better chance of being on the same page.
Mike Brown didn’t force Andre Smith into the lineup yet. He’s inactive today but was available.
You are most likely 100% correct but the fact of the matter remains.
We have Al Davis for a owner/coach/GM/draftstaff/etc.
That does not seem likely to change anytime soon, therefore I hope this year is great experiance for all the youngsters and things really start to pick up next year.
November 8th, 2009 at 11:35 am
Plunketthead,
I don’t take any joy in pointing these things out. In fact, if it worked…I would be the biggest fan. But in diagnosing this mess, its important to highlight the key issues.
I hope the youngsters start to take hold. But these youngsters have to start acting and playing like pros.
Russell, DHB, Murphy should be spending everyday together trying to figure out their responsibilities. Especially given that the coach is forcing them to play whether they deserve to or not.
I wish Cable would have left the playbook alone from last year. especailly with a struggling qb
November 8th, 2009 at 11:42 am
Maybe we can get a stroke of luck for a change and Al will strip Cable of play calling. That and someone lighting a bonfire under JR’s big butt might = 8-8.
I say 8-8 because thats the best I am hoping for next year. I would lick Al’s nads for a winning season and since I wont really have to lick em, I would lick em for 8-8
November 8th, 2009 at 11:44 am
A bye? The Raiders have been on a bye for 7 years now.
November 8th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
We need a DT, MLB/SLB, RG, RT, and a CB in the 1st 5 picks. We also need a blocking FB, and backup Oline.
November 8th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
Kurt Warner, in one half has twice as many TD passes as JaFata&& does the entire season. He said after the Chargers game that he felt he did a pretty good job. I guess a game with less than 5 picks & 3 fumbles = pretty good job. Anyone know how long fat boy is guaranteed money? If it is through 2011 then no matter what he will be the starting QB for two more seasons after this one is finished. I actually think JaMonk can get worse. He get fatter & dumber as the weeks go on. I can even safely say that freshman Andrew Luck is better than JaMonk is right now.
November 8th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
People wonder why I always blame Al Davis?
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HE’s THE FRIGGIN GENERAL MANAGER
November 8th, 2009 at 12:38 pm
KK
I dont wonder why you always blame Al
I just wonder what would possess a “man who says he has a life” to spew the same one note hate for Al 24/7/365 for the past umpteen years at a blog filled with trolls.
But the bottom line is I still wish you and yours all the best in the world. May divine discomfort be your constant companion.
November 8th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
Rookie Josh Freeman > Jamarcus Russell
November 8th, 2009 at 12:52 pm
I have heard on this blog that it takes time to develop a QB, I can accept that but shouldnt the QB dedcate himself to his craft by coming into camp in tip top shape after receving a 65 million dollar contract….. Russell doesnt care period, thats why he is the black ryan leaf….
November 8th, 2009 at 12:53 pm
hmmm? chris chambers 54 yard touchdown? and we didnt want him ?
November 8th, 2009 at 12:53 pm
I will go out on a limb and make a prediction. I seldom make them and they always come true.
So dont say you were not forewarned.
Someday in the future when Al is long gone a lightbulb (albeit a dim one) will flash and a POP will be heard for many.
That will be the moment when they realize that all the different GM’s, head coaches and owners have produced the same results for the most part over the years since Al’s demise.
You cant make a team hold the Vince Lombardi by following your advice to make everything perfect.
Theres about 31 other teams doing everything in their power to make sure you remain in the bottom tier.
Things run in cycles, the Raiders will win again, many pro teams will fold in the years to come and you will be taxed more in the future.
November 8th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
Fire JRUSS
Fire Mr. Davis
Fire Tom Cable
Fire all the players on this team that are not stand up guys.
Fire Trask, herrera, taylor.
C4 the building in alameda…
November 8th, 2009 at 12:54 pm
pretty good games going tex@ind,mia@ne,even gb@tb is tight, luv the sunday ticket.
November 8th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
doriangray Says:
November 8th, 2009 at 12:53 pm
hmmm? chris chambers 54 yard touchdown? and we didnt want him ?
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chambers has matt cassell….
raiders have black leaf…
November 8th, 2009 at 12:56 pm
KoolKell Says:
November 8th, 2009 at 12:29 pm
People wonder why I always blame Al Davis?
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HE’s THE FRIGGIN GENERAL MANAGER
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Nuff said…
November 8th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
Watching Josh Freeman, he looks light years ahead of russell as a rookie…. F@CK russell
November 8th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
ConfusedMaverick, I caught you and Gilbert’s fascinating discussion last night as to how Al is NOT a GM. Clever. OK then, fair enough. Every team has one person who makes the final call on personnel decisions. In Oakland, it’s Al Davis. Name one top personnel guy in the NFL, rather they call him a GM, a CEO, or the man on the moon, who’s worse than Al Davis. Name one.
November 8th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
Josh freeman a rookie better than a fat 3 year unproductive un dedicated hold out….
F@ck jamarcus russell….
November 8th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
Oh sorry F@CKthe black ryan leaf, and Mr. Davis for drafting him…
November 8th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
tb’s freeman not looking bad,peyton manning playing catch with his wr’s,mia’s wildcat is fun to watch
November 8th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
KK, Thec, their new cop out is to insist that Al is “not a GM, he’s a managing general partner”. So, therefore, Al can’t be a bad GM, since he evidently isn’t one. Now I have to ask these guys to name one worse top personnel guy in the NFL than Al Davis. You know your owned when your argument comes down to wordplay.
November 8th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
Rookie Josh Freeman has Tampa bay in position to possible beat GB….. what has black leaf done?????
November 8th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
kool kell do u blame george bush 4 capatalism ? 4 the fall of our economy ? huh ?
why do all other rookie qbs look way better than jamrcus russell ?
chuck norris
November 8th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
Rookie Josh freeman 6′6″ 248…..
Black Leaf 6′6″ 300…..
November 8th, 2009 at 1:04 pm
4th and 4 freeman touchdown pass to bay area kid sammie stroughter…..
And converts the 2 pt conversion on a pass.
What has Black leaf done???
November 8th, 2009 at 1:05 pm
plunkethead, name one active top personnel guy in the NFL worse than Al Davis. That’s my response to your fuzzy diatribe about how every GM is as bad as Al. Name one active one. Or, top personnel guy, CEO, whoever makes the final call on football related decisions. Name ONE worse than Al Davis. I’ll be waiting. Forever. Because you know there isn’t one.
November 8th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
Josh Freeman is making Jabust look like a rookie, Jabust never had a game like Freeman in his entire career, Freeman did it from the first game.
November 8th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
Mr. what up BruH???? Al Davis and his lackeys trask herrera, taylor and the inmetionables that we dont know about are the laughing stock of all sports….PERIOD….
LOOK AT ROOKIE JOSH FREEMAN against green bay….
look at black ryan leaf….
November 8th, 2009 at 1:07 pm
Josh Freeman is abou to beat GB in his first NFL start
what has black leaf done????
November 8th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
in an ideal world this second half of the season would be jruss’ last chance to keep his job. he’s been absolutely brutal with accuracy,pocket awareness, and ball security.if he continues this,nobody in their right mind will want to coach the raiders only if they want to cash a fat ass check al will have to give 4 anybody crazy enough to hear him out.imo, cable is going to lose his job at the end of the yr.russell will get a shot at qb next yr. but whoever coaches us is going to want to bring another qb 4 the eventual benching of russell.
November 8th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
Josh Freeman 6′6″ 248 lbs
Black Leaf 6′6″ 300 lbs
Black leaf doesnt give a F@CK about the raiders or the fans… FAT sloppy F@CK…..
November 8th, 2009 at 1:10 pm
Biggest difference between JaMonk & Josh Freeman. Josh Freeman cares about winning, being in shape & has a brain.
November 8th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
BRL is a 65 million dollar nothing…. Take your money and go back to bama you sorry F@CK….
BRL = black ryan leaf…… B!TCH
November 8th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
Here’s my prediction, plunketbraindead,
KC 20, Raiders 17.
November 8th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
You are the leader of a franchise and you come to camp 50 lbs over weight, he doesnt care so F@CK him and the horse he rode in on……
BRL middle finger news to you….Lazy B!tch
November 8th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
Sammie Stroughter > DHB …..
November 8th, 2009 at 1:15 pm
You can make any arument you want about wathing fat boy in college, but he has zero dedication…
November 8th, 2009 at 1:16 pm
Russell was never worthy of being drafted number 1 overall (neither was Quinn, for that matter). But Russell would be a lot better on a real team with a real system. No QB would succeed in this mess. Albeit, Russell is doing a lot worse than most would. Not to mention, Russell is a lot less dedicated than they would be, too. But put Russell in some place like NE, and I’ll bet you he’s close to being the qb that the kool aid drinkers here were anticipating.
November 8th, 2009 at 1:16 pm
50 lbs overweight….. 5o lbs overweight No one on this blog or on the planet can argue 50 lbs overweight…
November 8th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
MR, BRL is a fat B!tch that would be lousy on any team..
November 8th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
I had the most incredible dream last night. I woke up being happier than I’ve ever been the past seven years. I dreamed that while having his diaper changed a wheel on Al’s walker came loose and he fell down a flight of stair & is in a coma. Then the phone rang at JaMonkie’s house with the news about Al. As he was waddling to get the phone he trips over his lunch which was a 40lbs pastrami sandwich and tore his ACL permanently. Best dream EVER.
November 8th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
what bothers me and already looking to next yr. is that even al said this team wasn’t ready to seriously compete 4 a title this yr. i believe it was cable’s hc press conference that al said that and he said the 2010 season would be a real contending team.but i think al didn’t expect this regress and now it looks like we’ll still be in another rebuilding yr. next yr.we’re just totally far off as a team. head coach way in over his head, terrible qb, bad o-line, bad LB corp and too many wasted roster spots.
November 8th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
I disagree, Thec. Considering his talent, if he played on a team with smarter play calling and a better offensive line, he’d be a lot better. He wasn’t that bad in week one this season, due to, you guessed it, better play calling. You guys can try to pass this mess off on Russell all you want to, but I’m seeing the same Raiders that I’ve been seeing since 2003, when Russell was just a kid.
November 8th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
nice win 4 tb
November 8th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
Josh freeman just upset GB… Tampa bay has a REAL qb….
November 8th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
TB put on the old school orange today, and won. Huge. Guess that’s all Gruden had wrong. Chucky should have suited them up in the sunkist unis and had them come out to a ’70s porn soundtrack.
November 8th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
MR, 50 lbs overweight….cant argue that my freind…
November 8th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
HIRE MARC TRESTMAN/
CHRIS CHAMBERS GOT LIKE 3 TDS!
WHY ARE THE RAIDERS SO DUMB ?
November 8th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
i honestly don’t see any talent in jruss, obviously he flashed potential prior to the nfl but he is off.i know the argument of bad o-line, no wr’s, no help from the playcaller, but when a play is being executed blocked well, wr’s open, what has he done, throw off his back foot, lobs passes into coverage, or wait 4 the d-line to slap the ball out his hands.kiff was right about developing this guy slowly. i said this before. russell’s stats last yr would be comeback player of the yr. stats 4 him next yr. with the basic west coast quick throw offense.
November 8th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
Thec07,
Who drafted Russell number 1?
Who didn’t get him into camp on time?
Who gave Russell a bunch of lousy coaches?
Who forgives Russell for being overweight and lazy?
Blaming Russell takes the glare away from the one and only man that deserves all of it….Al Davis.
Al Davis is the reason this football team cannot be successfull. I wish it were different. But his management style prevents success!
November 8th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
another knock on russ is where is that arm when he needs it, haven’t seen 1 perfect throw from him. the only one i really liked was from the 1st game he started against sd when he hit porter in the endzone with pretty good coverage on him.
November 8th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
Matt Stafford with two TDs Thec.
See we have the most desperate ownership/gm situation in the NFL.
He doesn’t value coaching. Therefore the players get no direction or guidance. They are allowed to behave any way they want.
If Davis marginalizes coaches…then it would make sense to stack the team with veterans with character.
What coach was the last to do that?
November 8th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
i think last yr’s game @ den when he had his best game was a bit of luck when lelie made a couple incredible catches in coverage and the run game was established
November 8th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 8th, 2009 at 1:16 pm
Russell was never worthy of being drafted number 1 overall (neither was Quinn, for that matter). But Russell would be a lot better on a real team with a real system. No QB would succeed in this mess. Albeit, Russell is doing a lot worse than most would. Not to mention, Russell is a lot less dedicated than they would be, too. But put Russell in some place like NE, and I’ll bet you he’s close to being the qb that the kool aid drinkers here were anticipating.
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Great post MR.
November 8th, 2009 at 1:37 pm
Even Vince Young getting his groove back.
November 8th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
watched a bit of kc@jax, damn it was empty. kc might see more of the same in oak.
November 8th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
i always hated pennington 4 not having a strong arm but he would be considered 4 next season in an ideal situation with an offensive saavy head coach.
November 8th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
I DONT KNOW MR/ SUM PEOPLE DEDICATE THEMSELVES NO MATTER THE SITUATION. SUM QBS LIKE MATT RYAN WANT 2 WIN SO BAD, HED BE UP ERR DAY LIKE 300 IN DA MORNIN STUDYIN FILM. PEYTON MANNING WOULD BE SLAPPIN DHB AND JLH IN TEAM MEETINGS. HE WOULD DEMAND EXCELLENCE. EVERY MAN IN THIS WORLD IS DIFFERENT. MICHAEL JORDAN IN HIS PRIME WOULD HAVE THE CLIPPERS FREAKIN FOCUSED!!!
November 8th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
i wouldn’t draft another qb
November 8th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
this is most relaxed sunday i’ve had this football season. our 2 wins could easily been losses.
November 8th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
SnB offense defense specialteams Says:
November 8th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
Thec07,
Who drafted Russell number 1?
Who didn’t get him into camp on time?
Who gave Russell a bunch of lousy coaches?
Who forgives Russell for being overweight and lazy?
Blaming Russell takes the glare away from the one and only man that deserves all of it….Al Davis.
Al Davis is the reason this football team cannot be successfull. I wish it were different. But his management style prevents success!
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Of Course preaching to the preachers…
November 8th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
Football is a team game. Coaching matters.
Al Davis doesn’t pay coaches.
Al Davis doesn’t let the head coach pick the assistants.
Who is the Raider WR and ST coaches? Are they any good?
November 8th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
giants falling apart since the raider game, already losing to sd
November 8th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
No one on this blog or the planet can argue your leader, face of the franchise coming in 50lbs overweight. That has nothing to do with Mr. Davis, it has to do with a players commitment. BRL s#!T on the team, himself, and the fans…..
I challenge anyone to argue 50 lbs overweight…
November 8th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
Mr, do you think they have donuts, and fried foods in new england???? 50 lbs overweight…
November 8th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
gints not falling apart, they will beat the dischargers today….
November 8th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
Thec07 Says:
November 8th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
No one on this blog or the planet can argue your leader, face of the franchise coming in 50lbs overweight. That has nothing to do with Mr. Davis, it has to do with a players commitment. BRL s#!T on the team, himself, and the fans…..
I challenge anyone to argue 50 lbs overweight…
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Why is BRL still playing? Who made that decision?
November 8th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
THEC07 HOW MUCH DOES YUR WIFE WEIGH ? STOP JUDGIN JRUSS?
November 8th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
Thec07,
Do you think Bill Belicheck or Mike Tomlin would put up with JRUss being lazy and overweight?
How about Tony Sporano?
But good ole Al Davis……he’s a great playah…get ovah it
November 8th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
Thec, he’s 50lbs. overweight because he’s in Oakland and they tolerate it. He wouldn’t be overweight on pretty much any other team. Everybody on the Raiders dogs it except for Nnamdi, Miller, and maybe a couple of others. Heard anything from Seymour lately? That’s what players come to Oakland for, to dog it. And 1st round draft picks are no exception. If Russell was in New England, he’d be a different person. Like Moss.
November 8th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
didn’t want chambers but 3rec 70yds. 2td’s isn’t bad 4 his 1st game as a chief
November 8th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
Thec, why are you trying to pass Al Davis’s mess on to Russell? Earlier today you seemed to have your head screwed on straight, blaming the one constant who’s been here the entire 7 year skid. Now you’re on this blame Russell express, that has me wondering if you too are subtly trying to distract people from Al’s accountability.
November 8th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
Guys, let Thec believe what he wants to. Davis apologists like him are always, always going to look away from Al for blame. And, Thec’s doing it right now. He’s not going to change his mind, now matter how many facts he’s faced with. He’s set on his belief that if Russell wasn’t our starting qb, we’d be in the playoff hunt. You can only lead a horse to water.
November 8th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
anybody with an average sports iq knows al is to blame 4 this mess.
November 8th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
Niners, Titans is a good game. Knotted up at 10. It’s nice to see a bay area team with some fight.
November 8th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
SnB, that’s the exact truth. Al Davis tolerates everything Russell is doing. No other team would. They wouldn’t let him fall apart like this, or they would flat out cut him and he wouldn’t get jack. I think Al’s only sticking it out with Russell anyway because he has to show Kiffin up. As soon as he cuts Russell, it solidifies Kiffin’s position that Russell was the wrong pick. If Kiffin is a true Al basher and Raider hater, when Davis eventually does cut Russell, he’ll say, “I told you he wasn’t good, Al. Get over it”.
November 8th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 8th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
Thec, why are you trying to pass Al Davis’s mess on to Russell? Earlier today you seemed to have your head screwed on straight, blaming the one constant who’s been here the entire 7 year skid. Now you’re on this blame Russell express, that has me wondering if you too are subtly trying to distract people from Al’s accountability.
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Mr, you can look at my track record on this blog.
MR. Davis is a 100% total failure…. He is the reason
the franchise is in the state it is in. Go back and look at all my post for the last few years.
November 8th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 8th, 2009 at 2:00 pm
Thec, he’s 50lbs. overweight because he’s in Oakland and they tolerate it. He wouldn’t be overweight on pretty much any other team. Everybody on the Raiders dogs it except for Nnamdi, Miller, and maybe a couple of others. Heard anything from Seymour lately? That’s what players come to Oakland for, to dog it. And 1st round draft picks are no exception. If Russell was in New England, he’d be a different person. Like Moss.
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Another great post MR
November 8th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
jeff garcia would of won us the 2 sd games and our record would be 4-4 which technically is in the playoff hunt.russell alone out there costed us those games.better starts against nyj and den also was a laugher at russell’s behalf.he is holding this offense back
November 8th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
russell would be on the bench in another team right now and next yr. too. he’s a total project
November 8th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 8th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
Guys, let Thec believe what he wants to. Davis apologists like him are always, always going to look away from Al for blame. And, Thec’s doing it right now. He’s not going to change his mind, now matter how many facts he’s faced with. He’s set on his belief that if Russell wasn’t our starting qb, we’d be in the playoff hunt. You can only lead a horse to water.
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MR, come on man dont put words in my mouth …..
Mr. Davis is the one responsible for this debacle…
MR, how could i have been a member on record of the Nation Collective and be a Schill for Mr.Davis?????
Come on MR look at all my past post…
Not Blaming JRUSS for the state of the raiders, however argue me about JRUSS dedication and weight. you will lose everytime…
November 8th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
jruss and rookie wrs. is like trying to drive your car from the back seat
November 8th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
He is 50lb overweight becuase he is not dedicated to his craft. BRL is just not dedicated…Period
November 8th, 2009 at 2:17 pm
Real MR,
The culture of an organization is as important as its brick and mortar. The culture in Oakland is not conducive to winning.
For these kids, this is their 1st foray into the NFL. Just like any of us starting a new job for the 1st time. People come into a situation with their own backgrounds…..but an organization is supposed to set a tone. Look at the military for example. They take all sorts of kids and turn them into some of the finest people you’ll ever meet.
Davis doesn’t respect that process. He treats this like a Madden NFL videogame or fantasy football. His own ego and distant past obligates him to interfere with the coaches. IN fact, Davis is really the de facto head coach.
Its ridiculous. I hope they win because I am a Raider fan. But my expectations for this sad organization is grounded in a hard stone cold reality.
It is what it is!
November 8th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 8th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
Guys, let Thec believe what he wants to. Davis apologists like him are always, always going to look away from Al for blame. And, Thec’s doing it right now. He’s not going to change his mind, now matter how many facts he’s faced with. He’s set on his belief that if Russell wasn’t our starting qb, we’d be in the playoff hunt. You can only lead a horse to water.
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MR, you are a flat out liar…..
Never said anything about us making the playoffs, stick to the point, So you are blaming the organization for BRL coming to camp overweight????
How many other raiders came to camp 50lbs overweight???
November 8th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
raideredoutL.A. Says:
November 8th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
jeff garcia would of won us the 2 sd games and our record would be 4-4 which technically is in the playoff hunt.russell alone out there costed us those games.better starts against nyj and den also was a laugher at russell’s behalf.he is holding this offense back
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Maybe. THose receivers are pretty terrible.
However, an interesting question (at least I think it is) is this….How much would the playcalling change if another QB was starting?
Cable keeps calling out verticals from the goalline and throwing deep at every opportunity. I wonder if he goes small ball?
Oh well…this is not a normal professional franchise anyway
November 8th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
MR <—— lost what little respect i had for you….
You are a straight up liar and like to debate when you have zero argument…. ROFLMAO as you call me a schill for Mr. Davis. Look back at the blog last year who came up with the name Nation Collective. Look at my post from the past talking about the orgabization, and te franchise being at fault….
MR you are a Liar…..
November 8th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
doriangray Says:
November 8th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
THEC07 HOW MUCH DOES YUR WIFE WEIGH ? STOP JUDGIN JRUSS?
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My wife, 5′ 3″ 125 lbs…….
Not judging but stating fact. BRL is 50 lbs overweight.
You are ridiculous in telling me to stop doing something on a blog no less…lol
November 8th, 2009 at 2:28 pm
Thec07 Says:
November 8th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
doriangray Says:
November 8th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
THEC07 HOW MUCH DOES YUR WIFE WEIGH ? STOP JUDGIN JRUSS?
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Smart guy, name a NFL QB 50 lbs overweight…and cant digest his NFL playbook???????
Do you need a hint homie?????
November 8th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
Thec, I apologize for putting words into your mouth. But if your’e a member of the collective, what is your stink with Russell? Surely someone who understands that Al Davis is the real blame for this mess knows that Russell is nothing more than a pawn in Davis’s little war with Kiffin, which goes on to this day, make no mistake. The minute Al cuts JaMarcus, Kiffin wins, even all the way over there in Tennessee. Kiffin will be laughing his ass off, and Al knows it. That’s why Russell stays. So, you, knowing that, why are you still in here today pretending that Russell is the end all be all of our problems?
November 8th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
Thec07 Says:
November 8th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
doriangray Says:
November 8th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
THEC07 HOW MUCH DOES YUR WIFE WEIGH ? STOP JUDGIN JRUSS?
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Truth is diffrent form judging…
Fact BRL is outta shape…
FACT BRL is not dedicated….
Fact BRL cant digest the playbook….
Fact BRL is a lousy QB…..
November 8th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
The Real MaddenRaider Says:
November 8th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
Thec, I apologize for putting words into your mouth. But if your’e a member of the collective, what is your stink with Russell? Surely someone who understands that Al Davis is the real blame for this mess knows that Russell is nothing more than a pawn in Davis’s little war with Kiffin, which goes on to this day, make no mistake. The minute Al cuts JaMarcus, Kiffin wins, even all the way over there in Tennessee. Kiffin will be laughing his ass off, and Al knows it. That’s why Russell stays. So, you, knowing that, why are you still in here today pretending that Russell is the end all be all of our problems?
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MR, Never said BRL was the blame for the raiders problems…
BLR, no matter what should “act” like a professional.
Coming into camp sends a bad message to the rest of the team. The team looks at him shakes their head and says wow, we cant win with this idiot, becuase he is not dedicated…. Oh I am sorry he is dedicated to broads, bling, and krispy kreame…..
November 8th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
November 8th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
Thec07 Says:
November 8th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
doriangray Says:
November 8th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
THEC07 HOW MUCH DOES YUR WIFE WEIGH ? STOP JUDGIN JRUSS?
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You must be a youngster…. So what your wife look like????? what you pull these days???
November 8th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
Mr. Davis choose BRL… Bad move
Mr. Davis choose DHB…. Bad move
Mr. Davis worst owner in the HISTORY of sports….
November 8th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
November 8th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
doriangray Says:
November 8th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
THEC07 HOW MUCH DOES YUR WIFE WEIGH ? STOP JUDGIN JRUSS?
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ROFLMAO at you…..
November 8th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
doriangray Says:
November 8th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
THEC07 HOW MUCH DOES YUR WIFE WEIGH ? STOP JUDGIN JRUSS?
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Wait a minute, arent you Dr. Gray the same guy who had the rear view visor widget for QB’s? I was the guy on this blog that was encouraging you to seek a CAD designer from the medical field….
November 8th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
LOL THAYT DAMN QB FROM TAMPA BAY FREEMAN LOOKS BETTER THEN FATRUSSELL ALREADY DDDDDDDDAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
November 8th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
It’s a sad season so far for the Silver & Black…
But it’s still great to be a Raiders fan — as hard to take as these down times are.
I see, just as sure as my hopes of the Raiders averaging 22 points per game have disappeared…MR’s still in here spewing his hatred ad nauseum. Still haven’t found a life, eh, MR?
And, KK — (almost) Only you can continue to defend JaMarcus Russell at every turn, and then slam the man who called him a great player. Al picked him…and at this point in his career, JaMarcus is one of the worst picks of all of them (and almost a complete bust). No excuses for either guy…and race has nothing to do with my comments, so don’t go there.
Don’t know if Cable’s job can be saved — or if it even deserves to be — but if nothing recent is proven, he deserves the chance to run out the rest of the year at the helm. He’s doing a better job than most give him credit for, mainly because of the failures of JaMarcus. On the field, and in the locker room, the players say he’s got the team pointed the right direction…and the distractions have been kept to a minimum (at least before the bye). If Cable can do ANYTHING to get the team on a positive roll, it’ll be quite a feat.
It might all be moot anyway…if his past sins require more than some anger-management counseling, Cable’s chance is over.
Thec an Al apologist? That’s laughable, and shows just how desperate MR is to convince other people he’s right and that other people can never be — he bends things to make himself SEEM more important. Obvious lackings in MR’s social diet at play…like usual.
The WR situation has let the team, and Russell down…and it’s time to start feeding the receivers the ball. Either they’re able to play or they’re not — and last week’s embarassing double-trip by Higgens and Murphy makes one wonder.
But, the truth is, every single young receiver on the Raiders has talent…and it will only blossom by getting them the ball over and over. JaMarcus, or one of his backups, or Jeff George or Darryl Lamonica…it doesn’t matter, just get them the ball.
Crabtree, the much-worshipped Crabtree, has more balls thrown to him in 3 games than DHB gets in twice as many…and most are at least within the same Zip Code. JaMarcus needs to improve his all… tooooooo… sloooooooooooow delivery…or it doesn’t matter what Zip Codes the guys are in, they’ll never get their package.
LONG LIVE AL DAVIS…AND LONG LIVE RAIDERS FANS…AND LONG LIVE THE SILVER & BLACK…
Keep ‘em in check, BHP!
It’s a great day to be a Raiders fan!
November 8th, 2009 at 3:09 pm
Thec, Russell is not going to “act like a professional” as long as he’s in Oakland. Since when has anyone had to be professional in Oakland? Only when Gruden was here. Listen to yourself.
November 8th, 2009 at 3:09 pm
It’s a great day to be a Raider fan, isn’t it?!?!?!?
November 8th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
Hayez, you know what makes me think I’m important? Long winded diatribes directed at me.
November 8th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
I remember throwing darts at thec for the fire Al tirade.
Just more proof that poor MR is a pathetic soul.
November 8th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
Daze37
Nice write up and its always fun to be a Raiders fan
I take em one week at a time and dont dwell on the horrid past 7 years,
November 8th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
Actually, it is. Sure the record sucks, but it’s still great to be a REAL fan, you real shame to the Madden name.
Being a fan doesn’t just mean wins and losses…being a fan is deeper than anything you can conceptualize, MR…and your pathetic attempts to prove how bad the Raiders are every minute of every day are staggeringly boring.
I hope Al is GM for the next 10 years, just to keep you in your life-consuming misery.
Al will get it turned around before he’s done.
November 8th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
PH — I thank you for the kind words.
And…as much as I disagree with Thec, he comes from a much more solid foundation of credibility than the hater known as MR.
Thec’s hatred is much more balanced and justifiable (even if wrong thinking), whereas MR just plain hates. That hater pounds his chest when his predictions of disaster come true (just what “REAL” fans do, right?). Disaster predictions are easy to make when a team is down…but the I-told-you-so’s are enough to gag over (like the rest of the world can’t see what’s happening).
Ahh…the long, sad seasons of bad teams…only made worse by the already miserable who want everyone else to wallow in it with them.
Go Raiders…10-6 is still possible!
Ha ha…well…it is!
November 8th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
November 8th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
“Being a fan doesn’t just mean wins and losses…”
………..
Yeh, not anymore, obviously.
November 8th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
why cant al do anything right i mean you draft the fastest guy in the draft one year and he sucks but the year before you dont draft Chris Johnson and you get DMC
November 8th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
If the Raiders had sucked this bad in the ’70s, 7 straight years of suckage? the AFL would have dropped them. Flat out. It is about winning and losing. Because there was once where if the Raiders didn’t win, they wouldn’t have existed. And, with today’s economy, you’d better believe that at some point the other owners are going to get tired of carrying Al. You can’t just suck every single year and hoist your accolades from decades past. Losing teams lose money. And without money, a business doesn’t survive. Al survives by profit sharing. It drags the whole league down, as a business. If he keeps it up, he’ll be gone, and so will the silver and black. So, Hayez, you’d better start taking wins and losses seriously at some point. Because if the Raiders dont’ start to win, your favorite team is going to be extinct.
November 8th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
A lot of young QBs stepped up their games today.
Alex Smith and Vince Young having a good game
Stafford threw a couple of TDs
And Freeman put in a gutsy effort throwing 3tds and LEADING his team to victory.
I can only hope and pray that JaMarcus Russell sees where his career is headed and decides to dedicate himself.
I hope that the receivers realize they are simply not getting it done and rededicate themselves as well.
I hope Chaz makes a difference and Cable puts JLH on the field.
Come on guys….make it respectable
November 8th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
If there wasn’t profit sharing and every owner was on their own, then I could see how people could say that it’s Al’s team, and therefore it’s Al’s business what he does with it. As long as there is profit sharing, that isn’t the case. It’s not Al’s team. It’s the NFL’s team. And Al is just a thorn stuck in their shoe. Eventually, they’ll pull it out.
November 8th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
Oh how hayesdaze tune has changed since September. LOL!! Where the playoff talk and Tom Cable is great talk?? Funny how you havent shown your face around here for months now that all your bogus pre season predictions have blew up in your face. But yeah, your the “real” fan.
November 8th, 2009 at 4:10 pm
Plunketthead Says:
November 8th, 2009 at 12:38 pm
KK
I dont wonder why you always blame Al
I just wonder what would possess a “man who says he has a life” to spew the same one note hate for Al 24/7/365 for the past umpteen years at a blog filled with trolls.
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I’m here because I’m a 45 year Raider Fan, why are you here?
November 8th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
SnB,
Post # 328 makes you sound like such a whiny beatch.
“Come on guys, make it respectable” LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 8th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
What makes a man spew all the “Al Davis is great the Raiders are great everything is candy and roses” b.s. that you Kool Aid drinkers spew.
November 8th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
HayesDaze37 Says:
July 14th, 2009 at 9:56 pm
What does it hurt to lose the most games over 6-years?
Ummm…NOTHING, but merchandise and ticket sales.
Oh, and a lot of pride.
But, that’s all.
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This is the Al Davis Cult. Winning is secondary.
November 8th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
Let me take that back about Alex Smith….
November 8th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
Does a GM who hires 5 Head Coaches in 5 years, sound like he has a plan?
November 8th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
Does a GM who hires 5 Head Coaches in 5 years, sound like he knows what he’s doing?
November 8th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
Oooops on Matt Stafford…5 Ints….whew
November 8th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
Hayesdayz has already admitted he would rather lose with Al Davis than win without him. He dznt care about winning, but hes a “real” fan.
November 8th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
OLDIES BUT GOODIES!!
Priest blaming Howie Long for Shanahan being fired and replaced with Shell:
# preisttj Says:
July 30th, 2009 at 11:44 pm
Jhill, you think you do, Cowher would put you to sleep. If I could have any coach the only coach I would take in a heartbeat is Jimmy Johnson. Whom Big Al tried to hire before he hired Norvell Turner. But he doesn’t want to coach again.
I just think the only coach that Mr Davis fired that was a real mistake I said it before and I’ll continue to say it was Mike Shanahan. He never should’ve fired him based on the reasons that he did. He listened to Howie Long and others who wanted Art Shell.
November 8th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
THEC DONT MAKE ME …
UMM. WHERE BILLY VOLEK WHEN WE NEED HIM ?
November 8th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
Today is a good day.
Finally, the Raider Nation have realized that AL Rotten Davis is to be blamed for the 6 losing season.
I would like to thank all the fans who kept enlightening the idiots in this blog. Special thanks to KK, MR, SNB, VegasRaider, Raider4eve and all others who been blogging the clear facts.
For these losers Lefty12, Oakglenn, BS, Priestj and others, I wish you guys good luck, form another blog and keep kissing Rotten Davis assssssss.
November 8th, 2009 at 4:45 pm
giant meltdown
November 8th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
Dude, you clone of a mud-crawing troll, you –
You LIE when you say I said the Raiders were playoff bound. I made a reasonable (well, at the time) 8-8 prediction, and that JaMarcus would be improved, and the Raiders would score one TD more per game this year.
You are one of the worst offenders of truth-bending in this forum, Dude/troll…and everybody knows it.
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MR — You need to roll over your Cheetos, open a window, and turn off the video game. The mold in your mom’s basement will never scrub out at this point.
You LIE when you say I think W-L isn’t the most important thing to a team. What I say is that W-L record is the ultimate in importance to a team…but not the end-all to what makes a fan a fan (a concept you can’t fathom).
For your alleged AA in communications, and your $599 screenwriting certificate ($499 with coupon!!), it baffles the mind to think that you CAN’T think an original thought in all these years on the forum.
Win or lose…always a fan. A real fan.
MR, Dude/troll, RickieLake and other multi-personalities can’t LIE about others in here enough to make themselves look, ummm, important. Masters of the obvious, who must prove their “superiority” on a subject (even when caught in truth-morphing and outright LIES)…are masters of nothing. Not even their own domains. Whether or not their hands are as sticky as their brains.
November 8th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
The general consensus regarding the pot arrest for Giants pitcher Tim Lincecum? No big deal. Entitled to a mistake. Pretty dumb, but hardly a blip on the radar screen.
Just for the hell of it, let’s substitute Lincecum in his Mercedes for a hypothetical quarterback in a Rolls Royce. Instead of a wispy 150-plus pounds with long hair, the offender weighs upwards of 270 with something approximating a mohawk. Instead of being the toast of major league baseball, he’s considered a potential bust as a No. 1 overall draft pick.
Same crime, but assuredly two entirely different reactions, and we won’t even get into the sociological implications which are sure to be debated.
The moral of the story is it pays to be productive.
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What a shameless attempt to stir up blog posts/hits on the bye week.
Of course, I’ll bite.
Jerry’s right, it does pay to be productive. That’s also why I think the stuff about JaMarcus’ weight and how much time he spends in the classroom and pictures of him partying are overblown. He’s got the physical ability but I’m just not sure he’s got the mental ability to scan the entire field and make split-second decisions — especially behind a sub-par offensive line with two rookie WRs. It’s one of the hardest things in pro sports to do. And very few QBs are any good at the NFL level. It won’t magically come with a few less pounds. It won’t necessarily come with 70 hours a week of film study (although that can’t hurt either).
Anyway, I don’t buy the black/white angle as for why no one cares. It’s the off-season. No one cares about a baseball player toking a little weed in the off-season while the College and Pro football seasons heat up. If it was combined with other character questions — like you might have with a Jeremy Shockey or even a Jay Cutler — people would latch onto it a bit more. But most people I know think weed should be legalized anyway so why would they get all offended because some kick-ass pitcher who seems like a nice guy was smoking it. I think it’ll be great if Lincecum now wins the Cy Young, which I believe has already been voted on but not yet announced. I’d love to see Bud Selig’s face if/when he hears about that one.
Marijuana will be legalized nationwide within the next 10-15 years. As soon as California does it and it raises a ton of revenue for the government and crime is reduced because it’s no longer a source of black-market gang wars, it’ll catch on across the country in no time. I actually think the 10-15 year estimate is conservative. It could become legal in the next 5 years. God I hope so.
November 8th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
Oh, and MR, you truth-ignoring hate monger –
The reason teams like Tampa Bay, Cleveland, even your beloved 49ers were able to survive when they were/are terrible? In large part…a guy named Al Davis.
So…complaining about Al being “carried” by the League he helped create (and increase the value of) is just more hate-fueled nonsense from a guy who knows ZERO about how profits in the NFL are shared, and how much money the Raiders have MADE for the League over the years.
Short-minded thinking from a hater…like Al or hate him…MR’s thoughts are always short-minded and fueled by hatred, and nothing else.
Long live Al!! Even with his mistakes!!!
Raiders can still go 10-6!!! Is that a prediction? Not unless you can’t tell the difference between a prediction and a statistical fact (far-fetched as it is)…
You haters bore me, and your chasing the same tail is mind-numbingly immature.
Go Raiders!! It’s a great night to be a Raiders fan!!
November 8th, 2009 at 6:11 pm
The New York Giants haven’t won since they beat the Raiders weeks ago. Serves them justice for picking on the Raiders after they beat them 44 to 7.
November 8th, 2009 at 6:15 pm
What up Nation?
I was watching NFLN late last night and they had the top 10 gutsiest performances in NFL history. Brett Favre was #6 vs the Raiders after his father died.
I got sick to my stomach watching how they had this GUY wearing #84 snatching pass after pass over defenders making TD’s just going after the ball.
I kept thinking to myself that I could only wish we had a GUY like that on our roster.
November 8th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
This is sickening, I’m like the only cat down here in New Orleans not excited and happy. The Saints are 8-0 for the first time in franchise history and I can’t enjoy it because I’m a true Raider.
I like the Saints but I ain’t outside right now popping fireworks and writing numbers all over my rear windshield with shoe polish and sh!t.
November 8th, 2009 at 6:23 pm
504,
The other day you were lookn to debate LSU vs USC football. Would love to here all about how much better they are than SC and how great the SEC is and crappy the Pac 10 is. Your Joe Mcknight comment reaked of sour grapes too.
November 8th, 2009 at 6:24 pm
it sure sucks 504, hate being out of contention by mid season again.
November 8th, 2009 at 6:26 pm
Funny 504 Raider, if only we had a guy like that! And if only we would never hear about that stupid game ever again. I realize that Favre had a 3rd degree tear of his grieving muscle, what a miracle performance, how he could even walk!! ..with all of that grieving, is beyond me.
Truly a medical wonder.
November 8th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
kc scores 21 like today next week, 99% chance they win.most we’ve scored in a game this yr., 20.
November 8th, 2009 at 6:36 pm
but i’m sure we’re coming out of the bye week swinging, cable and tollner are dialing up a great gameplan, gallery creating big holes 4 our running backs, mcfaddden comes back receiving short passes and creating them into big gains, chaz comes back and gives russell a real target opening it up 4 miller up the middle . the d will be well rested and knock cassell out 4 a season-turning victory next sunday. try it, its fun.
November 8th, 2009 at 6:51 pm
raideredoutL.A. Says:
November 8th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
kc scores 21 like today next week, 99% chance they win.most we’ve scored in a game this yr., 20.
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KC had 6 points at the 2 minute warning. They got a garbage TD, an onside kick and another garbage TD.
Not a good performance from their offense today.
November 8th, 2009 at 6:52 pm
Yeah Dude,
you would come out and talk after the fact when LSU took an L and your squad squeaked by a mediocre team. I mean “juggernaut.”
McKnight went there for two reasons:
First he was scared of competition from our TB rotation.
The second reason sealed the deal for him as he was following a piece of a$$ he called his girlfriend at the time.
LSU got robbed by the worst officials in Football history (SEC refs).
We LSU fans can only pray that we meet up with SC in a bowl to settle that 2004 debate.
November 8th, 2009 at 7:08 pm
SC will pray as well.
November 8th, 2009 at 7:20 pm
504, NO has the most accurate passer I’ve seen since Kenny Stabler. But he has a stronger arm then Kenny and his revccievers believe in him and will runn through brick wall to catch a ball. The biggest asset they have though is that 4th ranked running game and that ball hawking defense. My brother-in-law is in heaven down there. That win today was very unlikely and their confidence is through the roof.
As much as we(y’all) rag on Russell I do believe he is starting to get it. He protected the ball well against SD which kept us in the game. But until he starts to trust DHB along with getting Chaz as well as others back he wont benefit this team the way we need him to. It will only make us better and contrary to popular belief I have a lot of confidence in Russell getting much better. He needs to show confidence in his WR’s and that thing about reading defenses will be put to rest.
The biggest thing for this team is that the HC now accepts the fact that we have to be a run first team. If you look at the NYG ask your self what’s their problem? Eli was playing lights out football early this year and now he’s playing no lights on football. The biggest reason is the lack of a consistent running game to take pressure off Eli. His mechanics have suffered because teams know they can’t run and they’re pressuring him. He’s taking a lot of hits and his confidence is down. Take a good look at the Packers they have everything except an Oline to protect a very good to great QB.
When Tony Rome didn’t have a go to WR and no running game he was aweful. Now he’s playing Pro-bowl type football because his recievers have stepped up and his running game has returned.
I gaurantee you if you take that running game away from Drew Brees he immediately will start struggling. Because his line will be under siege and he’ll start getting hit and sacked. All of a sudden his confidence starts to sag and he starts throwing picks. Then they start losing.
My point is at this level the players are just too good and the coaches are even better they will jump on a weakness and beat you to death with it.
November 8th, 2009 at 7:25 pm
Just walked in the door. Nice to be here after staring in the window for a few years. Thank You, really, glad to be here.
I’ll toss one out for debate (since that’s what mostly goes on in here), with more to follow.
Why on earth would you put $29 mil into someones hands without knowing what that person would do or become? I do believe JR is not hungry enough to ever be great. He simply is not hungry. He’s well off and well fed, and sometimes we just lose the edge.
And true, many other issues surround him. But hunger is the motivation of winners and I fail to see it him. I know big Al likes his brute strength and all, but it takes much much more than talent to succeed.
So I really don’t want to blame JR as much for his play as I do the owner who put that kind of money into his hands. Sort of ‘bizzaro’. I do hope for the best, but I have trouble seeing it.
November 8th, 2009 at 7:26 pm
Thec07, unless you were there when they weighed Russell to say he was 50lbs. overwieght is at least disengenuous. From what I heard he reported at 275lbs. if he is 50 lbs. overwieght then his playing weight would have to be 225 lbs. he hasn’t weighed that since highschool his playing weight is 260 lbs. That’s what they asked him to come in at 260-65 instead he came at 15 lbs. heavier and was fined. he’s now somewhere under 270 lbs.
November 8th, 2009 at 7:26 pm
Hey Priesttj
If you and Al Davis know so much about winning, Why aren’t you doing it?
6 winning seasons in 20 years?
November 8th, 2009 at 7:31 pm
If all the posters start calling buttholeprick
a lemming and a publican he :mrgree: will go away 
just like he 
has on other boards 
November 8th, 2009 at 7:35 pm
Islandraider, you answered your own question. But no one can read minds, no one would’ve given him the money unless they REALLY believed in him. That should go without saying. Mistakes are made at that position all the time.
You guy’s act as if Mr Davis would be the ONLY one to ever do it if Russell never turns out. Get a grip!! every team in this league has made that SAME mistake. No one can predict the future. You draft the guy you like the most and hope like hell he makes it.
You all have determined that he’s a bust and you know all, you don’t know squat all you can do is watch and hope like everybody else. Russell will decide if he really wans he’ll get it done……….period
None of us KNOW one way or the other!
November 8th, 2009 at 7:43 pm
KK, move on brotha not interested!! in your stupid questions.
November 8th, 2009 at 7:44 pm
504,
I am well aware that SC is not as good this year as they have been in the past. Losing all the guys they did to the NFL the last few years was bound to catch up to them and it has. They are young as hell and are gonna have some growing pains but the next few years will make up for it, be sure of that. I am not gonna sit here and be like a typical SEC fan and bash LSU and the SEC conference cause to do so would be silly. Both are beyond reproach. That being said for you to act like LSU is SOOO much better a program than SC is rediculous. SCs run has been as good if not better than any program in the nation. Not to mention they have beaten every SEC team they have played the last 6 or 7 years. The SEC is a good conference to be sure, probably the best, but the Pac 10 has fared well vs the SEC and has fared VERY well during bowl season. Not opinions, facts. Look it up.
Your McKnight comments are ludicrous. SCs RBs rank up there with the best in the nation as a group and are better than LSUs and its not close. Your statement about that being a reason for McKnight not going to LSU proves you are a fool. Its almost laughable.
November 8th, 2009 at 7:48 pm
You are one twisted person KK. You reallly need a life.
Come on everynody start calling me whatever this guy wants you to.
Maybe that will help you KK, you’re so desparate to make me what YOU think I am. You’ve been saying that same crap for years with zero proof other than what’s bouncing around in your own empty head. You love to accuse people of doing what you yourself are always doing, thinking you know everything.
November 8th, 2009 at 7:53 pm
You ask everyone the same questions all the time to get them believe what YOU want them to. You looking for your own worshipers KK. Everybody should follow you to get done whatever, you want done. huh?
You want everybody to hate Mr Davis you want everybody want him dead. You want everybody to want him removed all you want is your own way and everybody to follow it.
November 8th, 2009 at 7:53 pm
Souting could have done a little homework. And my other question, does JR really want to be a leader? Can he lead? Does he really really want it? It’s a shame Raider fans have to ask our selves these kind of questions of the face of the franchise. Leaders. It’s all about gritty, gutsy, in-your-face get after it leaders. Proof may have already soured in the pudding.
November 8th, 2009 at 7:55 pm
Priest,
What have you seen out of Jamarcus Russell and the organization around him that makes you soooo sure he will turn out to be a good NFL QB? I dont see him or a organization doing the things it takes to develop a young qb.
November 8th, 2009 at 8:03 pm
Are you kidding me, could’ve done a little homework? How ’bout a ton of hmework all the way back to junior high. Do you really think we draft in the 1st round without doing research?? this is the NFL not some Mom and Pop store they do thorough background checks and talk to everyone that will talk to them. Highschool coaches and middleschool coaches to his entire community if they can. I simply can’t believe that someone would believe they don’t do their due diligence. Islandraider buy a clue just one. No wonder you guy’s are so negative, your just very uninformed.
November 8th, 2009 at 8:07 pm
Come on Priest, I asked for your honest opinion on the subject. Are you not man enough to have a civil conversation?
November 8th, 2009 at 8:08 pm
KK, it’s personal preerence my man personal preference I couldn’t care less. I just try to help where I can. Lot’s of people I talk to all the time literally hate MR Davis I don’t have a problem with them we discuss fotball in here all the time. SnB and Jhill and Lefty12 aand many others are not Mr Davis supporters it’s their prorogative but they know football and I like that.
November 8th, 2009 at 8:10 pm
I love Civil conversations with people I want to talk to, you just aren’t one of them.
November 8th, 2009 at 8:13 pm
Thank you KK, I needed that. appreciate it. Now pass your obsession on to someone else I’m done.
Hey!! everybody KK has me figured out.
November 8th, 2009 at 8:14 pm
Thats because you wont talk to someone who can destroy you in a debate. You have been wrong about EVERY thing you have said about this team and you are to big a coward to step up and admit it. You are so quick to defend Russell and the organization but the fact is you have ZERO rational reasons to do so. Period. All you are is a glorified PR guy for the worst organization in the NFL.
November 8th, 2009 at 8:17 pm
Well, you said it. They must of done a bad job doing their homework. Big Al could have said:
Here JR, take $29 mil., but I would like you to be earnest in your endeavor, I will expect you to be prompt and dilligent, study and cram like there is no tomorrow, show up early and stay late, work and more work. You are the future, you’ve got to want it. Do you want it? Be careful with all that money, don’t spend it in one place.
I really do wish JR well for him and the Raiders, but I have trouble seeing it.
Now I’m done beating on this poor dead horse, so I will pose my next debatable question.
Could Mr. Cable be a good HC (not great) if his hands were not so tied? Big Al has left the winning coaches alone (to some degree), so is it fair to just wait til seasons end and see? You got me.
November 8th, 2009 at 8:35 pm
Priesttj
When’s the last time the Raiders developed a good Quarterback?
November 8th, 2009 at 8:41 pm
Kool,
Hes gone man. I braced him on the subject and he bolted like the coward he is. He is only on here to spread the Raider Company Propoganda Line. Thats it, thats all.
November 8th, 2009 at 8:45 pm
That’s it Dude. Of course when Davis goes, all his blood-sucking incompetent enablers and hangers-on’s will be swept out too.
November 8th, 2009 at 9:11 pm
Also means this will take some time. (FYI: Trask is just about the only Raiders exec who has cordial relationships with the NFL.)
But every indication is that Al Davis has removed himself from the details of this operation–except to blast ESPN, because that part is 100% Al. He has long ago walked himself away from Cable, by the way.
(I’ve heard Al wrote the anti-ESPN press release last week and Trask wrote the we’re-investigating-Cable/opporbrium press release. Classic Raiders executive focus two-fer.)
I don’t know if Trask’s role should be necessarily seen as ominous for Cable. She probably won’t go out of her way to bail him out, but I think Cable is 99.999% a goner, anyway, whoever was running the operation.
This also raises some larger issues about the franchise.
I don’t know precisely what this means for the Raiders or Trask–who has been in and out of Al’s favor the last few years, but is, in the end, the single executive he trusts most.
It wouldn’t be difficult, though, to guess that Trask is assuming more and more authority amid the Raiders vacuum, as Al deals with health issues and mostly shows up just to rail about the team’s current state of disarray and everybody else in the office ducks and hides in order to remain employed.
-Kawakami
November 8th, 2009 at 9:17 pm
Dude,
SC is falling off because they are simply playing by the rules now in light of all that money that was paid to Reggie Bush.
Don’t worry. When the TV ratings fall the NCAA will turn their backs and SC will rise again.
That won’t happen down here. Too much alligator sausage to go around.
November 8th, 2009 at 9:21 pm
504
I imagine you watch the Saints every week. Must be a huge difference when you get to watch a Raider game?
November 8th, 2009 at 9:21 pm
priest = the village idiot
November 8th, 2009 at 9:32 pm
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November 9th, 2009 at 10:56 am
Harbaugh accept the job only under the condition you form the entire coaching staff & who starts and who is inactive or active for the 53 man roster, and that you have the complete power to bench someone at anytime; make sure it is in writing within the contract.
You will not even have to consider moving your family.
Please get Mr. Davis to consider drafting the lineman from Nebraska if he is available, hopefully we win atleast 4 games the second half of the season so he probvably wont be, yes that means locker will be gone from the UW as well.