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Off-day notes

By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Saturday, November 7th, 2009 at 11:03 pm in Oakland Raiders.

A few random thoughts gathered from shuttling kids to and fro Saturday and catching a little college football in between with the Raiders in their bye week:

– The steady drumbeat of Jim Harbaugh to the Raiders will soon pick up steam, if for no other reason than the Stanford coach has a healthy respect for Al Davis having worked in Oakland, and because Merc columnist Tim Kawakami will see to it.

Watching Stanford’s 51-42 win over Oregon, Harbaugh’s offense had exactly the sort of power running (38 carries, 223 yards from Toby Gerhart) and downfield throwing (12 completions for 251 yards from Andrew Luck) that Al Davis loves. You’d think think it was a more athletic Marv Hubbard clone hammering the middle with Lamonica doing deep.

Interesting dilemma for Harbaugh should the Cardinal win a couple more games before the end of the season. Does he strike right away, or ride the Andrew Luck train closer to completion when the Cardinal could potentially win a Pac-10 title and get him an even better gig?

Regardless, he’s not coming to Oakland.

As much as he admires Davis, Harbaugh’s agent is (or at least was) a business partner of Mike Lombardi at the National Football Post. Rest assured Harbaugh will never disparage the Raiders, but will seek out a more stable opportunity. The guy does seem a bit detached from reality on occasion, however, so I reserve the right to be dead wrong in public.

– Speaking of Luck and the Cardinal, is it really that much to ask for Raiders receivers Louis Murphy and Darrius Heyward-Bey to occasionally make a leaping catch as if they had some sort of connection with quarterback JaMarcus Russell? Yes, it’s pros vs. colleges, but, every once in awhile it would be nice to see the Raiders even approach something appoximating a legitimate passing game.

– According to one report, William Joseph was brought back in by the Raiders for another look. Let’s say I’m a little skeptical that 30-something Greg Ellis will be back for the Chiefs game after arthroscopic knee surgery, but even if he’s out, Joseph is a tackle, not an end. The Raiders could, however, play Richard Seymour exclusively outside in the meantime.

One thing’s for sure _ Matt Shaughnessy should be given as many snaps as possible after what looked to be a breakout game against San Diego.

– For anyone who seemed confused over the “revelations” contained in Friday’s post on the Raiders and the likelihood of Jon Gruden returning, there was no new ground covered there. It was all reported in 2004 in the days leading up to the Bucs-Raiders game at the Coliseum. The only reason I repeated it was because of the volume of talk about Gruden’s potential return.

– Damn frightning injury to Cal’s Jahvid Best against Oregon State, even more so because he was coming off a “minor” concussion the previous week.

It’s a murky medical area, but there’s a scary collaboration between the pride of a football player and the eagerness of a team to get a player to return to action following a concussion. Strong side linebacker Jon Alston sustained a “minor” concussion after the Oct. 11 against the Giants, then again following the Chargers game.

Alston was back on the practice field the Wednesday following the Charger game. Coach Tom Cable said he’s passed all the tests.

Here’s a guy passionate about football and will do whatever it takes to get on the field. He’s also a Stanford graduate who will have no trouble making a good living when his football days are over. If the Alstons of the world are going to push aside concussions, so is everyone else. The NFLPA would be wise to protect players against themselves.

– Profootballtalk.com is reporting the Raiders are working closely with the NFL to determine what to do with Tom Cable and allegations about his his history of violence toward women.

While that may be true, my understanding is they’re just as obsessed with ESPN, unable to let go of what they believe was a pipeline of information between former coach Lane Kiffin and the network, specifically Chris Mortensen.

Time to move on.

– The general consensus regarding the pot arrest for Giants pitcher Tim Lincecum? No big deal. Entitled to a mistake. Pretty dumb, but hardly a blip on the radar screen.

Just for the hell of it, let’s substitute Lincecum in his Mercedes for a hypothetical quarterback in a Rolls Royce. Instead of a wispy 150-plus pounds with long hair, the offender weighs upwards of 270 with something approximating a mohawk. Instead of being the toast of major league baseball, he’s considered a potential bust as a No. 1 overall draft pick.

Same crime, but assuredly two entirely different reactions, and we won’t even get into the sociological implications which are sure to be debated.

The moral of the story is it pays to be productive.

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  • raideredoutL.A.

    jruss and rookie wrs. is like trying to drive your car from the back seat

  • Thec07

    He is 50lb overweight becuase he is not dedicated to his craft. BRL is just not dedicated…Period

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    Real MR,

    The culture of an organization is as important as its brick and mortar. The culture in Oakland is not conducive to winning.

    For these kids, this is their 1st foray into the NFL. Just like any of us starting a new job for the 1st time. People come into a situation with their own backgrounds…..but an organization is supposed to set a tone. Look at the military for example. They take all sorts of kids and turn them into some of the finest people you’ll ever meet.

    Davis doesn’t respect that process. He treats this like a Madden NFL videogame or fantasy football. His own ego and distant past obligates him to interfere with the coaches. IN fact, Davis is really the de facto head coach.

    Its ridiculous. I hope they win because I am a Raider fan. But my expectations for this sad organization is grounded in a hard stone cold reality.

    It is what it is!

  • Thec07

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    November 8th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
    Guys, let Thec believe what he wants to. Davis apologists like him are always, always going to look away from Al for blame. And, Thec’s doing it right now. He’s not going to change his mind, now matter how many facts he’s faced with. He’s set on his belief that if Russell wasn’t our starting qb, we’d be in the playoff hunt. You can only lead a horse to water.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    MR, you are a flat out liar…..
    Never said anything about us making the playoffs, stick to the point, So you are blaming the organization for BRL coming to camp overweight????
    How many other raiders came to camp 50lbs overweight???

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    raideredoutL.A. Says:
    November 8th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
    jeff garcia would of won us the 2 sd games and our record would be 4-4 which technically is in the playoff hunt.russell alone out there costed us those games.better starts against nyj and den also was a laugher at russell’s behalf.he is holding this offense back
    ======================================================
    Maybe. THose receivers are pretty terrible.

    However, an interesting question (at least I think it is) is this….How much would the playcalling change if another QB was starting?

    Cable keeps calling out verticals from the goalline and throwing deep at every opportunity. I wonder if he goes small ball?

    Oh well…this is not a normal professional franchise anyway

  • Thec07

    MR <—— lost what little respect i had for you….
    You are a straight up liar and like to debate when you have zero argument…. ROFLMAO as you call me a schill for Mr. Davis. Look back at the blog last year who came up with the name Nation Collective. Look at my post from the past talking about the orgabization, and te franchise being at fault….

    MR you are a Liar…..

  • Thec07

    doriangray Says:
    November 8th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
    THEC07 HOW MUCH DOES YUR WIFE WEIGH ? STOP JUDGIN JRUSS?

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    My wife, 5′ 3″ 125 lbs…….

    Not judging but stating fact. BRL is 50 lbs overweight.

    You are ridiculous in telling me to stop doing something on a blog no less…lol

  • Thec07

    Thec07 Says:
    November 8th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
    doriangray Says:
    November 8th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
    THEC07 HOW MUCH DOES YUR WIFE WEIGH ? STOP JUDGIN JRUSS?

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++=

    Smart guy, name a NFL QB 50 lbs overweight…and cant digest his NFL playbook???????

    Do you need a hint homie?????

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    Thec, I apologize for putting words into your mouth. But if your’e a member of the collective, what is your stink with Russell? Surely someone who understands that Al Davis is the real blame for this mess knows that Russell is nothing more than a pawn in Davis’s little war with Kiffin, which goes on to this day, make no mistake. The minute Al cuts JaMarcus, Kiffin wins, even all the way over there in Tennessee. Kiffin will be laughing his ass off, and Al knows it. That’s why Russell stays. So, you, knowing that, why are you still in here today pretending that Russell is the end all be all of our problems?

  • Thec07

    Thec07 Says:
    November 8th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
    doriangray Says:
    November 8th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
    THEC07 HOW MUCH DOES YUR WIFE WEIGH ? STOP JUDGIN JRUSS?

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Truth is diffrent form judging…

    Fact BRL is outta shape…
    FACT BRL is not dedicated….
    Fact BRL cant digest the playbook….
    Fact BRL is a lousy QB…..

  • Thec07

    The Real MaddenRaider Says:
    November 8th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
    Thec, I apologize for putting words into your mouth. But if your’e a member of the collective, what is your stink with Russell? Surely someone who understands that Al Davis is the real blame for this mess knows that Russell is nothing more than a pawn in Davis’s little war with Kiffin, which goes on to this day, make no mistake. The minute Al cuts JaMarcus, Kiffin wins, even all the way over there in Tennessee. Kiffin will be laughing his ass off, and Al knows it. That’s why Russell stays. So, you, knowing that, why are you still in here today pretending that Russell is the end all be all of our problems?

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    MR, Never said BRL was the blame for the raiders problems…

    BLR, no matter what should “act” like a professional.
    Coming into camp sends a bad message to the rest of the team. The team looks at him shakes their head and says wow, we cant win with this idiot, becuase he is not dedicated…. Oh I am sorry he is dedicated to broads, bling, and krispy kreame…..

  • Thec07

    November 8th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
    Thec07 Says:
    November 8th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
    doriangray Says:
    November 8th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
    THEC07 HOW MUCH DOES YUR WIFE WEIGH ? STOP JUDGIN JRUSS?

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    You must be a youngster…. So what your wife look like????? what you pull these days???

  • Thec07

    Mr. Davis choose BRL… Bad move
    Mr. Davis choose DHB…. Bad move
    Mr. Davis worst owner in the HISTORY of sports….

  • Thec07

    November 8th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
    doriangray Says:
    November 8th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
    THEC07 HOW MUCH DOES YUR WIFE WEIGH ? STOP JUDGIN JRUSS?
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    ROFLMAO at you…..

  • Thec07

    doriangray Says:
    November 8th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
    THEC07 HOW MUCH DOES YUR WIFE WEIGH ? STOP JUDGIN JRUSS?
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Wait a minute, arent you Dr. Gray the same guy who had the rear view visor widget for QB’s? I was the guy on this blog that was encouraging you to seek a CAD designer from the medical field….

  • raideralex909

    LOL THAYT DAMN QB FROM TAMPA BAY FREEMAN LOOKS BETTER THEN FATRUSSELL ALREADY DDDDDDDDAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

  • HayesDaze37

    It’s a sad season so far for the Silver & Black…

    But it’s still great to be a Raiders fan — as hard to take as these down times are.

    I see, just as sure as my hopes of the Raiders averaging 22 points per game have disappeared…MR’s still in here spewing his hatred ad nauseum. Still haven’t found a life, eh, MR?

    And, KK — (almost) Only you can continue to defend JaMarcus Russell at every turn, and then slam the man who called him a great player. Al picked him…and at this point in his career, JaMarcus is one of the worst picks of all of them (and almost a complete bust). No excuses for either guy…and race has nothing to do with my comments, so don’t go there.

    Don’t know if Cable’s job can be saved — or if it even deserves to be — but if nothing recent is proven, he deserves the chance to run out the rest of the year at the helm. He’s doing a better job than most give him credit for, mainly because of the failures of JaMarcus. On the field, and in the locker room, the players say he’s got the team pointed the right direction…and the distractions have been kept to a minimum (at least before the bye). If Cable can do ANYTHING to get the team on a positive roll, it’ll be quite a feat.

    It might all be moot anyway…if his past sins require more than some anger-management counseling, Cable’s chance is over.

    Thec an Al apologist? That’s laughable, and shows just how desperate MR is to convince other people he’s right and that other people can never be — he bends things to make himself SEEM more important. Obvious lackings in MR’s social diet at play…like usual.

    The WR situation has let the team, and Russell down…and it’s time to start feeding the receivers the ball. Either they’re able to play or they’re not — and last week’s embarassing double-trip by Higgens and Murphy makes one wonder.

    But, the truth is, every single young receiver on the Raiders has talent…and it will only blossom by getting them the ball over and over. JaMarcus, or one of his backups, or Jeff George or Darryl Lamonica…it doesn’t matter, just get them the ball.

    Crabtree, the much-worshipped Crabtree, has more balls thrown to him in 3 games than DHB gets in twice as many…and most are at least within the same Zip Code. JaMarcus needs to improve his all… tooooooo… sloooooooooooow delivery…or it doesn’t matter what Zip Codes the guys are in, they’ll never get their package.

    LONG LIVE AL DAVIS…AND LONG LIVE RAIDERS FANS…AND LONG LIVE THE SILVER & BLACK…

    Keep ‘em in check, BHP!

    It’s a great day to be a Raiders fan!

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    Thec, Russell is not going to “act like a professional” as long as he’s in Oakland. Since when has anyone had to be professional in Oakland? Only when Gruden was here. Listen to yourself.

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    It’s a great day to be a Raider fan, isn’t it?!?!?!?

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    Hayez, you know what makes me think I’m important? Long winded diatribes directed at me.

  • Plunketthead

    I remember throwing darts at thec for the fire Al tirade.
    Just more proof that poor MR is a pathetic soul.

  • Plunketthead

    Daze37
    Nice write up and its always fun to be a Raiders fan
    I take em one week at a time and dont dwell on the horrid past 7 years,

  • HayesDaze37

    Actually, it is. Sure the record sucks, but it’s still great to be a REAL fan, you real shame to the Madden name.

    Being a fan doesn’t just mean wins and losses…being a fan is deeper than anything you can conceptualize, MR…and your pathetic attempts to prove how bad the Raiders are every minute of every day are staggeringly boring.

    I hope Al is GM for the next 10 years, just to keep you in your life-consuming misery.

    Al will get it turned around before he’s done.

  • HayesDaze37

    PH — I thank you for the kind words.

    And…as much as I disagree with Thec, he comes from a much more solid foundation of credibility than the hater known as MR.

    Thec’s hatred is much more balanced and justifiable (even if wrong thinking), whereas MR just plain hates. That hater pounds his chest when his predictions of disaster come true (just what “REAL” fans do, right?). Disaster predictions are easy to make when a team is down…but the I-told-you-so’s are enough to gag over (like the rest of the world can’t see what’s happening).

    Ahh…the long, sad seasons of bad teams…only made worse by the already miserable who want everyone else to wallow in it with them.

    Go Raiders…10-6 is still possible!

    Ha ha…well…it is!

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    HayesDaze37 Says:
    November 8th, 2009 at 3:17 pm

    “Being a fan doesn’t just mean wins and losses…”

    ………..

    Yeh, not anymore, obviously.

  • 16yearsold16yearfan

    why cant al do anything right i mean you draft the fastest guy in the draft one year and he sucks but the year before you dont draft Chris Johnson and you get DMC

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    If the Raiders had sucked this bad in the ’70s, 7 straight years of suckage? the AFL would have dropped them. Flat out. It is about winning and losing. Because there was once where if the Raiders didn’t win, they wouldn’t have existed. And, with today’s economy, you’d better believe that at some point the other owners are going to get tired of carrying Al. You can’t just suck every single year and hoist your accolades from decades past. Losing teams lose money. And without money, a business doesn’t survive. Al survives by profit sharing. It drags the whole league down, as a business. If he keeps it up, he’ll be gone, and so will the silver and black. So, Hayez, you’d better start taking wins and losses seriously at some point. Because if the Raiders dont’ start to win, your favorite team is going to be extinct.

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    A lot of young QBs stepped up their games today.

    Alex Smith and Vince Young having a good game

    Stafford threw a couple of TDs

    And Freeman put in a gutsy effort throwing 3tds and LEADING his team to victory.

    I can only hope and pray that JaMarcus Russell sees where his career is headed and decides to dedicate himself.

    I hope that the receivers realize they are simply not getting it done and rededicate themselves as well.

    I hope Chaz makes a difference and Cable puts JLH on the field.

    Come on guys….make it respectable

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    If there wasn’t profit sharing and every owner was on their own, then I could see how people could say that it’s Al’s team, and therefore it’s Al’s business what he does with it. As long as there is profit sharing, that isn’t the case. It’s not Al’s team. It’s the NFL’s team. And Al is just a thorn stuck in their shoe. Eventually, they’ll pull it out.

  • Dude

    Oh how hayesdaze tune has changed since September. LOL!! Where the playoff talk and Tom Cable is great talk?? Funny how you havent shown your face around here for months now that all your bogus pre season predictions have blew up in your face. But yeah, your the “real” fan.

  • http://www.Move2Alameda.com KoolKell

    Plunketthead Says:
    November 8th, 2009 at 12:38 pm
    KK
    I dont wonder why you always blame Al

    I just wonder what would possess a “man who says he has a life” to spew the same one note hate for Al 24/7/365 for the past umpteen years at a blog filled with trolls.
    ———————-
    I’m here because I’m a 45 year Raider Fan, why are you here?

  • Dude

    SnB,

    Post # 328 makes you sound like such a whiny beatch.

    “Come on guys, make it respectable” LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Dude

    What makes a man spew all the “Al Davis is great the Raiders are great everything is candy and roses” b.s. that you Kool Aid drinkers spew.

  • http://www.Move2Alameda.com KoolKell

    HayesDaze37 Says:
    July 14th, 2009 at 9:56 pm

    What does it hurt to lose the most games over 6-years?
    Ummm…NOTHING, but merchandise and ticket sales.
    Oh, and a lot of pride.
    But, that’s all.
    ———————–
    This is the Al Davis Cult. Winning is secondary.

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    Let me take that back about Alex Smith….

  • http://www.Move2Alameda.com KoolKell

    Does a GM who hires 5 Head Coaches in 5 years, sound like he has a plan?

  • http://www.Move2Alameda.com KoolKell

    Does a GM who hires 5 Head Coaches in 5 years, sound like he knows what he’s doing?

  • SnB offense defense specialteams

    Oooops on Matt Stafford…5 Ints….whew

  • Dude

    Hayesdayz has already admitted he would rather lose with Al Davis than win without him. He dznt care about winning, but hes a “real” fan.

  • http://none The Real MaddenRaider

    OLDIES BUT GOODIES!!

    Priest blaming Howie Long for Shanahan being fired and replaced with Shell:

    # preisttj Says:
    July 30th, 2009 at 11:44 pm

    Jhill, you think you do, Cowher would put you to sleep. If I could have any coach the only coach I would take in a heartbeat is Jimmy Johnson. Whom Big Al tried to hire before he hired Norvell Turner. But he doesn’t want to coach again.

    I just think the only coach that Mr Davis fired that was a real mistake I said it before and I’ll continue to say it was Mike Shanahan. He never should’ve fired him based on the reasons that he did. He listened to Howie Long and others who wanted Art Shell.

  • doriangray

    THEC DONT MAKE ME …

    UMM. WHERE BILLY VOLEK WHEN WE NEED HIM ?

  • DaBeast

    Today is a good day.

    Finally, the Raider Nation have realized that AL Rotten Davis is to be blamed for the 6 losing season.
    I would like to thank all the fans who kept enlightening the idiots in this blog. Special thanks to KK, MR, SNB, VegasRaider, Raider4eve and all others who been blogging the clear facts.

    For these losers Lefty12, Oakglenn, BS, Priestj and others, I wish you guys good luck, form another blog and keep kissing Rotten Davis assssssss.

  • raideredoutL.A.

    giant meltdown

  • HayesDaze37

    Dude, you clone of a mud-crawing troll, you –

    You LIE when you say I said the Raiders were playoff bound. I made a reasonable (well, at the time) 8-8 prediction, and that JaMarcus would be improved, and the Raiders would score one TD more per game this year.

    You are one of the worst offenders of truth-bending in this forum, Dude/troll…and everybody knows it.

    ——————

    MR — You need to roll over your Cheetos, open a window, and turn off the video game. The mold in your mom’s basement will never scrub out at this point.

    You LIE when you say I think W-L isn’t the most important thing to a team. What I say is that W-L record is the ultimate in importance to a team…but not the end-all to what makes a fan a fan (a concept you can’t fathom).

    For your alleged AA in communications, and your $599 screenwriting certificate ($499 with coupon!!), it baffles the mind to think that you CAN’T think an original thought in all these years on the forum.

    Win or lose…always a fan. A real fan.

    MR, Dude/troll, RickieLake and other multi-personalities can’t LIE about others in here enough to make themselves look, ummm, important. Masters of the obvious, who must prove their “superiority” on a subject (even when caught in truth-morphing and outright LIES)…are masters of nothing. Not even their own domains. Whether or not their hands are as sticky as their brains.

  • Chris in NY

    The general consensus regarding the pot arrest for Giants pitcher Tim Lincecum? No big deal. Entitled to a mistake. Pretty dumb, but hardly a blip on the radar screen.

    Just for the hell of it, let’s substitute Lincecum in his Mercedes for a hypothetical quarterback in a Rolls Royce. Instead of a wispy 150-plus pounds with long hair, the offender weighs upwards of 270 with something approximating a mohawk. Instead of being the toast of major league baseball, he’s considered a potential bust as a No. 1 overall draft pick.

    Same crime, but assuredly two entirely different reactions, and we won’t even get into the sociological implications which are sure to be debated.

    The moral of the story is it pays to be productive.

    —————-

    What a shameless attempt to stir up blog posts/hits on the bye week.

    Of course, I’ll bite.

    Jerry’s right, it does pay to be productive. That’s also why I think the stuff about JaMarcus’ weight and how much time he spends in the classroom and pictures of him partying are overblown. He’s got the physical ability but I’m just not sure he’s got the mental ability to scan the entire field and make split-second decisions — especially behind a sub-par offensive line with two rookie WRs. It’s one of the hardest things in pro sports to do. And very few QBs are any good at the NFL level. It won’t magically come with a few less pounds. It won’t necessarily come with 70 hours a week of film study (although that can’t hurt either).

    Anyway, I don’t buy the black/white angle as for why no one cares. It’s the off-season. No one cares about a baseball player toking a little weed in the off-season while the College and Pro football seasons heat up. If it was combined with other character questions — like you might have with a Jeremy Shockey or even a Jay Cutler — people would latch onto it a bit more. But most people I know think weed should be legalized anyway so why would they get all offended because some kick-ass pitcher who seems like a nice guy was smoking it. I think it’ll be great if Lincecum now wins the Cy Young, which I believe has already been voted on but not yet announced. I’d love to see Bud Selig’s face if/when he hears about that one.

    Marijuana will be legalized nationwide within the next 10-15 years. As soon as California does it and it raises a ton of revenue for the government and crime is reduced because it’s no longer a source of black-market gang wars, it’ll catch on across the country in no time. I actually think the 10-15 year estimate is conservative. It could become legal in the next 5 years. God I hope so.

  • HayesDaze37

    Oh, and MR, you truth-ignoring hate monger –

    The reason teams like Tampa Bay, Cleveland, even your beloved 49ers were able to survive when they were/are terrible? In large part…a guy named Al Davis.

    So…complaining about Al being “carried” by the League he helped create (and increase the value of) is just more hate-fueled nonsense from a guy who knows ZERO about how profits in the NFL are shared, and how much money the Raiders have MADE for the League over the years.

    Short-minded thinking from a hater…like Al or hate him…MR’s thoughts are always short-minded and fueled by hatred, and nothing else.

    Long live Al!! Even with his mistakes!!!

    Raiders can still go 10-6!!! Is that a prediction? Not unless you can’t tell the difference between a prediction and a statistical fact (far-fetched as it is)…

    You haters bore me, and your chasing the same tail is mind-numbingly immature.

    Go Raiders!! It’s a great night to be a Raiders fan!!

  • SnakeStabler

    The New York Giants haven’t won since they beat the Raiders weeks ago. Serves them justice for picking on the Raiders after they beat them 44 to 7.

  • 504 Raider

    What up Nation?

    I was watching NFLN late last night and they had the top 10 gutsiest performances in NFL history. Brett Favre was #6 vs the Raiders after his father died.

    I got sick to my stomach watching how they had this GUY wearing #84 snatching pass after pass over defenders making TD’s just going after the ball.

    I kept thinking to myself that I could only wish we had a GUY like that on our roster.

  • 504 Raider

    This is sickening, I’m like the only cat down here in New Orleans not excited and happy. The Saints are 8-0 for the first time in franchise history and I can’t enjoy it because I’m a true Raider.

    I like the Saints but I ain’t outside right now popping fireworks and writing numbers all over my rear windshield with shoe polish and sh!t.

  • Dude

    504,

    The other day you were lookn to debate LSU vs USC football. Would love to here all about how much better they are than SC and how great the SEC is and crappy the Pac 10 is. Your Joe Mcknight comment reaked of sour grapes too.